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DESIRABLE FEDERAL RESERVE POLICIES IN RELATION. T£)iX/p Q
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JOINT CONFERENCE OF BRANCH AND HEAD OFFICE' DIRECTORS
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO
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February 20, 1925.

Each day brings a full recognition.and realization of the

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fact that it behooves the people of the United States, whether in

commercial or financial operations, to have a more definite, detailed,
and at the same time comprehensive understanding of international
conditions, political, commercial, and financial.

Each day is bring­

ing the realization that the international relation, in the commercial
and financial sense, between the civilized nations of the world is
such that a definite interdependence exists, and that he who has not is
bound in some way to get, and he who has, must be alive to the fact

that one in desperate straits will, through some method, obtain his

absolute needs at the expense of him who has.

And it behooves him

who has so to regulate his affairs that this action of the one who

has not, in talcing his needs, shall not unduly disturb the position
of him who has.
Prior to the war, for a very extended period, and with ever
increasing facility, international credit circulated generally, to the

benefit of industry and commerce, and this flow of credit was based on

the

free and unhampered movement of gold.

Of all the maladjustments

resulting from the war, the one which has done the most to retard the

reconstituting of normal world trade arose from sudden transfers of
huge blocks of gold and credit, where such transfers were occasioned
by war needs.
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The attempts to ameliorate the effects of such radical
through legislation and other devices, have in turn added

obstacles to the normal and natural circulation of gold and to the normal

flow of international credit.

It is easy, of course, to realize the fact

that great obstacles are not necessary to divert the flow of gold, because

its diversion is relatively easy.

The obstacles created by war and by

subsequent legislation diverted the flow of gold from its usual channels.

The working of the law ’’bad money drives out good” , together with new

tariff laws, has practically created a system of dams and channels which

has diverted the movement of gold almost entirely in one direction, i,e»,
toward the United.States.
In all of the discussions of the merits and demerits of gold

as the basis of currency issues, and in turn the movement of international
credit, there can be no question that the European people afe most desirous

of a return to currency that has a gold basis.

And of the people of

Europe, the bankers are the most desirous of all that this should be

There have been many rather well known financial

brought about.

economists who have attempted to argue that managed currency, with the

issue held below the actual needs of the community, required no gold
backing and the day of gold as the basis for currency had passed.

These economists, as a rule, were nationals of countries where it was
thought that-it ’’might be for years and might be forever” before that
country would be in a position to make its currency convertible into

gold,

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There have been several things that have developed as a re­

sult of conditions forced on the central banks of issue and on the
people of the various European nations, and amongst other things it

is probable that the central banks of Europe may not feel called

upon to maintain actual gold reserve in as high a ratio as formerly,
although this is not yet certain.

It is clear, however, that the

world has learned that the reserves may not all be in the form of a

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dead investment in gold.

At any rate, there will be the disposition

to carry part of such reserves in “interest bearing gold”> so long as

there are securities bearing interest that are payable in gold issued
in countries where such contract can be fulfilled.

The past gives us outstanding examples of banks whose notes

have passed current, even at a premium, where there was no redemption
in gold, and such barks have operated for long periods without any gold
backing for their, notes and bills, but based entirely on the world1s

confidence in their management.

We have, however, come to recognize

that while gold backiig for currency in a reasonable ratio is most

desirable, still unless the ratio is 100%, the question of management

is of great importance.

As the ratio of gold grows less, the import­

ance of the managing factor increases, although not necessarily in a
direct proportion.

We have seen England operating on a managed currency

most successfully.

We have seen Germany operating on a managed currency

A dramatic example

most unsuccessfully, and then again, successfully.

has been given within the last two years in Germany where a sky­
rocketing, almost astronomical, currency inflation left Germany with a

currency so deflated that it was in fact no currency.

Their management,

or rather mismanagement, destroyed Germany1s currency and ruined that

stratum of her people that constituted the savors, i.e., investors.
Almost overnight, without any attempt to obscure the facts, there was
created in Germany a currency without any gold backing, based on a

percentage mortgage on all property in Germany.

While it was hoped

that it was only a temporary measure, yet for nearly a. year Germany was

able to maintain this new currency, the rentenmark, substantially at
its full gold value, within the boundaries of Germany*

This was

accomplished largely because the sellers were the agricultural producers.
They had faith in Mr» Helfrich, the economist, who had been a partisan of

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the agriculturists and who had planned and obtained the legislation for this

currency, and he amongst other things, was wise enough to restrict the issue

to an amount less than normal demands of business would, require.

As it was

the only medium of exchange, and the sellers were generally willing to accept

it, it carried through a year.

But credit for this result should be given,

in a degree, to the wisdom and skill with which the German financial opera­

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tions were carried on.

There were two committees appointed by the Reparations Commission.

Committee No. 1, the so-called Dawes Committee, as you know, consisted of

two delegates from each of five countries, and the Reference appointing the
Committee charged it with the duty of stabilizing the German currency,

equalizing the German budget, and devising some plan for the payment of
reparations.

The other Committee, the McKenna Committee, was charged

with the duty of determining, as nearly as possible, the value of German
external credits and external investments and a method of repatriating
these outside holdings.
Committees.

I had the good fortune to work on both

The McKenna Committee found that the' combined credits and

investments outside of Germany had approximate value of 6 billion gold

marks; that but a small part of this was in the form of liquid credit
balances; and that no method for a return for any expatriated capital

would be successful other than the creation of a situation in the home
country which would make a return movement of expatriated capital a
natural one.

Tire conditions existing in Germany demonstrated, as had

conditions existing in Austria, that no wholesome commercial operation
could be carried on indefinitely with an unstable currency, although
there might at times appear to be advantages.

It was also demonstrated

that no country could be certain of equilibrium in Governmental budgets
with an unstable currency.

The world had. come to recognize this and it

was for this reason that the Reference setting up the Committee provided

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for the stabilization of currency first and then the equalizing of the . '

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budget,

I venture to take the time to go into some detail as to what

was done to stabilize German currency.

There was outstanding the

original Reichsmark issue, in such a volume that there was no way of

figuring it; but it had no real value, though by legislation they had
fixed a value of 1 gold mark for 1 trillion of the Reichsmarks,

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addition there was outstanding about 1 billion, 500 million Rentenmarks. 1

After many discussions with Mr® Montagu Norman, the Governor of the Bank
of England, Mr. McKenna, Chairman of the Midland Bank, and Sir Robert

Kindersley, the latter a member of Committee No* 1, with whom I worked

on the. bank problems, we reached the conclusion that the German Govern­
ment must obtain an external loan, the proceeds of which would be payable

in gold*

This loan was for two purposes, first and primarily, to furnish

a gold backing for the new currency which it was proposed should be issued
by a new bank, and second, to put the German Government in funds to pay

the first yearfs annuity,

In effect it constituted a moratorium as

against collections of taxes for reparation payment, for the period of
one year, or at least for eight»t enths of what Germany was required to

pay the first year*

The amount of the loan was fixed at net, 800

million gold marks*

440 million gold marks were taken in the United

States, and of the remainder England took the equivalent of 240 million

gold marks, and the rest was distributed among the other continental
countries*

In this transaction lies a definite demonstration of the

strong feeling that exists among bankers of all classes in Europe, that

the only satisfactory currency is one that has a reasonable amount of
gold backing, because this loan was taken either by the central banks of
issue of the European nations, or through them and on their advice*


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The proceeds were then deposited in the Reichsbank and the

resulting credit? to the extent of 800 million marks / ran to the German
Government for the account of the Agent General of Reparations, but in the
new Reichsmark currency, provided payments on the annuity totalled 1 billion

marks the first year.

Against this credit, the Agent General makes drafts

payable to German producers for products they have delivered under the

deliveries in kind provisions of the Peace Treaty.

To illustrate: France,

we will say, requires from Germany coal of the value of 200 million marks

during the coming year, and this is paid for by the Agent General from hi.s
credit in the Reichsbank created as I have stated.

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In connection with the discussions with relation to setting up

the new Reichsbank (or rather what finally occurred, was the recondition­
ing and reconstituting under a new law of the old Reichsbank) the contro­
versy lay almost entirely between the English and the Americans as to

whether the lav; should provide that the currency should be actually
convertible in gold on presentation, the American position being that
it should be on that basis and the English opposing.

I have no doubt

you know that this situation was compromised by law providing for con­
vertibility on a gold basis? unless all of the members qf the organiza­

tion committee, i.e.; Mr. Schact and Sir Robert Kindersley and all of

the foreign members of the Board of the new German bank? with the excep­
tion of one, should agree that, for the present, it should not be legally

forced to go on a convertible basis.
basis.

But, in practice, it is on a gold

Holland has also reached the point where its currency is con­

vertible at par.

Sweden and Switzerland and England too, are rapidly

approaching a point where it looks not only probable, but practically
certain, that they will go on a gold basis.

lem is as great as that of any other nation.

Our interest in this prob­

For every reason the

stabilization of gold makes for a greater fluidity in commercial movements

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and transactions in the flow of international credit, which is so necessary
in a business world that has lost a considerable portion of its capital, or

at any rate, has not created during the last nine years additional capital
which under normal conditions would have been created, and especially
because of our real excess of gold reserves, the value of which could be
seriously affected if it were found that unbacked currency could be con­

tinued as a basis for commercial operations.

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The Federal Reserve System of this country has come to be looked

upon, even in European countries, as the most desirable form of a bank of
issue that we could have*

Because of the control by the System of such

immense reserves of gold, its power for good or evil in the world has come

to be realized as paramount, and the future of the world1s commercial
prosperity hinges very largely on the question of whether our Federal
Reserve Banking System is operated with high intelligence and high pur**

pose, and to that end there are ever continuing discussions as to what

the Federal Reserve Baric might do to assist in a general stabilization so
necessary throughout the world.

Because the free movement of gold is a precedent necessity for

international credit, there are evidences that our Federal Reserve System

has been carrying on discussions with the Bank of England people, looking
to some support of the Bank of England1s policy if it takes the direction
of the stabilization of sterling on a gold basis.

One of the methods

about which there has been seme discussion is the purchase of foreign

short-time bills in the London market, through the Bank of England, and
with its guaranty.

Some of the economists insist that this would not

necessarily mean a movement of gold toward England, but all agree that
it would tend to stop the flow of gold toward this country and give other
countries a better opportunity to purchase gold.


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I am one of those who helieve that there would he some flow
of gold resulting from the purchases of such short-time hills, if the

quantity were considerable and if the quantity were maintained; that is
to say, if the Federal Reserve Banks should purchase $500,000,000 of
foreign bills in the next four or five months, I would venture the opinion

that they should not make such purchases unless they intended to maintain

a reserve of such bills in their pouch of about that size, except as the
movements ran either too rapidly or too strongly, or both, against us, in
which case, maturing bills could be allowed to run off.

If it is true that the foreign banks of issue, through their
”earning gold” have ear-marked in this country gold in considerable amount,

these bills would prove a cushion against any sudden movement in quantity
because of such ear-marking.

Then again, these bills would furnish

ammunition for stabilizing conditions in the same sense that the purchase

of bonds by the System last Spring was intended to furnish ammunition to

stabilize conditions at the right time, and some of us are convinced that

this is the correct method.

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Through the purchase of these foreign bills, endorsed by the

Bank of England, we would go to school in international finance, a thing
which we need.

It would be reducing the dangers of loss to the minimum

while we are getting our schooling,

Its tendency would certainly be to

stop the movement of gold toward us and it would probably move some gold
toward England and the other countries needing it.

Unfortunately New York

banks engaged in open market transactions in foreign bills and investments,
in considerable amounts because of high rates, are opposed to competition

that would thus be set up by the Federal Reserve Banking System.

It is

my belief that in the long run these very banks would, be greatly benefitted

if the Federal Reserve Baric were to follow this plan.


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The amount could be

better judged by the people of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York than
by those of us who are not in close contact, but it should bear some

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relation to the surplus income of this country from outside its boundaries

after giving proper allowance to the invisible exports, the investment

abroadj and the short-time loans made direct to other countries, which

have been very considerable in the last few months. ■
To summarize, I would say that the Federal Reserve System,
which has been of such very great benefit in the financial life of this

country, and which I believe has been the only thing that has saved us

during the war and shortly thereafter, is again in a position where,
by the use of its power in a wise way, it may not only save the dis­
tressed nations abroad, but incidentally save us from the menace of

the excess gold and generally bring about a condition that will mean
improvement throughout the world.


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