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Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee
801 Ninth Street, NW, Washington, DC 20220


Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee
Public Meeting
Monday, November 24 2008
Thayer Hotel
West Point, NY
In attendance:
Roger Burdette (via telephone)
Arthur Houghton
Gary Marks
Reverend Rick Meier
Mitch Sanders (Chair)
Donald Scarinci
Joe Winter (via telephone)
1. The chair called the meeting to order at 12:18 PM.
2. The chair explained that this meeting of the Citizens Coinage Advisory
Committee was being held in West Point, NY in conjunction with the First Strike
Ceremony for the Ultra-High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin, which had occurred
at the West Point Mint earlier in the day.
3. Cynthia Meals of the United States Mint presented proposed designs for the
bronze medal to be issued in honor of Edmund C. Moy, 38th Director of the
United States Mint.
4. After some introductory remarks by Ms Meals, Director Moy addressed the
CCAC. He explained that he envisioned his medal as the first public indicator of
a neo-renaissance in American numismatic design.
5. Director Moy asked the committee to recommend medal designs that most closely
accomplished five goals:
a. Have a uniquely American appearance
b. Exemplify 21st century design
c. Tell a great story
d. Expand the Mint’s technological capabilities
e. Attain a high standard of aesthetic beauty
He also indicated to the committee his openness to suggestions for modifications
of the proposed designs.
6. Ms Meals presented the proposed candidates for the medal’s obverse. She
explained that all of the proposed obverse designs would be produced in an incuse
format, whereby the portrait would appear below the medal’s “zero plane.” The
Director’s cheek would be the portrait element with the highest relief, and the

portrait would be separated from the “zero plane” with a beveled edge. Overall,
the medal’s relief would be 16%-20% higher than most previous medals produced
by the United States Mint. Three versions of the design feature different textures
and inscriptions.
7. Ms Meals then presented the proposed reverse designs:
a. Liberty Marching from Darkness. A modern version of Liberty walks
forward into the future, holding a lamp projecting abstract rays of light,
surrounded by 21 stars representing the 21st century.
b. Torch of Liberty and Enlightenment. The symbolic torch floats before a
field of light, dispelling the darkness. The effect of light would be
expressed with gradations of texture: an untextured surface near the flame
would represent light, and the texture would gradually become more
intense, representing darkness. Two different inscriptions appear in
different combinations and arrangements: “TUA LUX ET LIBERTAS
SECULO SECULORUM” (Thy Light and Liberty Forever and Ever” and
“IN DEO SPERAMUS” (In God We Trust).
c. The Edge of Excellence. An image representing beauty pushes the
boundaries of the circle surrounding her. The muscularity of the figure
represents the effort and energy required to advance excellence.
8. Members generally praised the proposed medal designs, and expressed
enthusiasm for the designs as representatives of the Mint’s continuing efforts to
achieve excellence in numismatic design.
9. Mr Scarinci moved that the CCAC should forego its usual ranking procedure, and
instead forward all of the committee’s comments to the Director without
expressing a preference. Mr Houghton seconded the motion. The motion was
defeated, 4-3.
10. At the conclusion of the discussion, each member rated each design on a scale
from 0 to 3. With seven members present and voting, the maximum possible
point total was 21.
11. The CCAC recommends Obverse design 1A and Reverse design 3. Complete
results were:



textured field with “Edmund C. Moy / 38th Director” on two lines
textured field with “Edmund C. Moy 38th Director on one line
textured field with “Edmund C. Moy”
untextured field with “Edmund C. Moy / 38th Director on two lines




Liberty Marching from Darkness
Torch of Liberty and Enlightenment with inscriptions at top, bottom
Torch of Liberty and Enlightenment with inscriptions at bottom




Torch of Liberty and Enlightenment without inscriptions
The Edge of Excellence


12. Several members suggested modifications to the recommended designs:
a. The words “United States Mint” should appear on the medal’s obverse, or
perhaps on its edge, to complete the identification of the medal’s subject.
b. The inscription “The Edge of Excellence” should be shortened simply to
“Excellence,” or perhaps removed altogether. Members felt that the
meaning of the design would be clearly conveyed even with the
inscription shortened or eliminated.
c. The figure on the reverse design The Edge of Excellence should be shown
with a higher level of exertion, and with more impact on the circle
surrounding her.
13. The following suggestions and concerns were also raised by individual CCAC
a. Consideration should be given to having inscriptions in English rather than
b. The “rake marks” on the portrait, intended to suggest continued evolution
as a person, could be mistaken for a production defect on the finished
c. The obverse and reverse should be united with a rounded edge, if
technologically possible.
14. On motion by Mr Houghton, seconded by Rev. Meier, the CCAC voted
unanimously to recommend the proposed designs for the Congressional Gold
Medal honoring former Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom, and
for the bronze medal honoring Henry M. Paulson for his service as 74th Secretary
of the Treasury.
15. Ms Meals then introduced the proposed narrative for the 2010 issue of the Native
American $1 Coin Program. Coins issued under this program feature Sacagawea
on the obverse, with reverse designs changing annually. Each year’s design will
have a new design emblematic of one important contribution made by a Native
American tribe or individual to the development and history of the United States.
16. The proposed theme, Government – Great Tree of Peace, was developed in
consultation with the National Museum of the American Indian.
17. A written statement from Professor John Alexander, the CCAC member
appointed based on special expertise in American history, was read into the record
by the chair.
18. Dr Alexander’s chief concern was that the narrative as written constituted
“advocacy history,” and that the argument that Native Americans greatly
influenced the founders of the United States government “rested more on
inference than clearly demonstrated fact.” Dr Alexander also explained that the
examples mentioned by John Adams in his discussion of American government
were primarily European, rather than Native American.

19. Dr James Adams of the National Museum of the American Indian, the author of
the proposed narrative, then addressed the committee. Dr Adams stated that the
Iroquois Confederacy had directly influenced Benjamin Franklin’s early call for
colonial unity, and indicated that John Adams’ discussion of Native Americans
was a passing reference in a document intended for a primarily European
20. The chair and other members expressed their appreciation to Dr Adams for
attending the meeting, and for the work that he and the National Museum of the
American Indian conduct on behalf of the United States Mint.
21. The consensus of the committee was that historical accuracy was of vital
importance, and that Dr Alexander’s concerns should be addressed by the Mint
and incorporated into the narratives sent to artists in connection with the 2010
Native American Dollar.
22. There being no further business, the chair adjourned the meeting at 2:15 PM.