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Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee
801 Ninth Street, NW, Washington, DC 20220


Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee
Public Meeting
March 13, 2008
United States Mint Headquarters, 801 9th Street NW, Washington DC, 2nd floor
In attendance:
John Alexander (via telephone)
Michael Brown
Bill Fivaz
Arthur Houghton
Rita Laws
Gary Marks
Rick Meier
Mitch Sanders (Chair)
Donald Scarinci
1. The chair called the meeting to order at 9:10 A.M.
2. Edmund Moy, Director of the United States Mint, presented to the committee the Mint’s
plans for an Ultra-High Relief Gold coin.
3. Director Moy explained that in 2009, the United States Mint will produce a 24-karat oneounce gold coin featuring Augustus Saint-Gaudens’ 1907 double-eagle designs. The aim
of the program, as described by Director Moy, is to bring closure to the past of American
coin design, thereby allowing the Mint to concentrate on the future of American coin
4. Director Moy, along with Cynthia Meals of the United States Mint, indicated that the
coin would be produced with a diameter of 27 millimeters, the same size as the
experimental double-thickness pieces of 1907, to facilitate the achievement of high relief.
The coin will also depart from Saint-Gaudens’ original by including IN GOD WE
TRUST on the reverse.
5. CCAC members were uniformly enthusiastic about this program, and there was a
consensus that the Ultra-High Relief coin would be very popular in the numismatic
6. The committee voted unanimously to recommend the Ultra-High Relief coin program as
7. The committee later voted 6-0, with two abstentions, to recommend that the obverse
design should include 50 stars, rather than the original 46, to reflect the contemporary
United States.
8. Ms Meals then presented candidate designs for the reverse of the 2009 one-cent piece
commemorating the bicentennial of the birth of Abraham Lincoln. Specifically, the
designs reviewed were for the coin honoring Lincoln’s Presidency in Washington DC.

9. The CCAC had previously reviewed candidate designs for this issue in September 2007,
and at that time voted to respectfully request reconsideration of the concepts, and to
recommend that new designs should depict Lincoln as war President. After another
review of candidate designs in January 2008, the CCAC recommended a design featuring
a Civil War cannon, without the standing image of Lincoln.
10. Ms Meals explained that based on feedback from the CCAC and the Commission of Fine
Arts, and input from the Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Commission, the United States
Mint decided to prepare another set of designs, containing some designs previously seen
by the committee, and others that had been modified since their original presentation.
11. CCAC members once again expressed concern that the image of the uncompleted Capitol
Dome on designs LC-R4-01 and LC-R4-03 would not present an understandable
12. Several members expressed disappointment with the entire set of designs presented.
Design LC-R4-04, which shows Lincoln standing with the completed Capitol Dome in
the background, attracted the most favorable comments. This design was considered by
several members to present a clear and meaningful image, with a combination of
elements that would work reasonably well in the context of a small coin.
13. Each member rated each design by assigning 0, 1, 2, or 3 points, with higher numbers
indicating more favorable ratings. With nine members present and voting, the maximum
possible point total is 27.
14. The committee recommended design LC-R-04, which received 14 points. The
committee’s second choice, LC-R-06 (Lincoln at Gettysburg), received 6 points. No
other designs received substantial support from the committee.
15. The committee also voted unanimously to recommend that the designer’s initials on the
obverse (V.D.B. for Victor David Brenner) should be emboldened on the Lincoln Cents
issued in 2009.
16. Kaarina Budow of the United States Mint then presented candidate designs for the Louis
Braille Bicentennial – Braille Literacy Commemorative Silver Dollar, to be issued in
17. There was significant support for obverse design #10, which committee members
generally felt conveyed Braille’s intelligence, confidence, and energy. This design was
the committee’s top choice, with 21 out of a possible 27 points. The committee’s distant
second choice was design #10.
18. As specified by law, the candidate reverse designs include the word “Braille” in Braille
code. In response to a question from the committee, Ms Budow explained that it would
not be possible to include additional inscriptions in Braille, due to the requirement that
the Braille code on the coin should be consistent with standard specifications for Braille
19. Discussion of the Braille coin’s reverse centered around design #5. Members commented
favorably on the quality of the artwork, especially the expression on the child’s face and
the incorporation of the words “LITERACY” and “INDEPENDENCE.”
20. Design #5 was the committee’s preference, with 21 points out of a maximum of 24 (one
member did not vote). Design #4, with 7 points, was a distant second.
21. There being no further business, the chair adjourned the meeting at noon.