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CITIZENS COINAGE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
UNITED STATES MINT

Monday, June 2, 2014
3:00 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.

Department of the Treasury, United States Mint
801 9th Street, NW
Washington, DC
Phone:
Fax:

Reported by:

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202-354-7280
202-756-6110

Natalia Thomas
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A P P E A R A N C E S

CCAC MEMBERS:
Gary B. Marks, Chair
Michael Bugeja
Robert Hoge
Erik Jansen
Mary Lannin
Donald Scarinci
Jeanne Stevens-Sollman
Thomas J. Uram

UNITED STATES MINT:
Don Everhart
Jean Gentry
Bill Norton
April Stafford
Greg Weinman

PRESS MEMBERS:
Paul Gilkes
Michael Unser

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C O N T E N T S

SPEAKER:
April Stafford

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P R O C E E D I N G S
MR. MARKS:

Today is June 2, 2014.

This

meeting of the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee
-- to order.
First of all, I'm going to ask the staff
if there are any liaisons to recognize?
MS. STAFFORD:
MR. MARKS:

There are not.

Okay.

And I would like to

ask any press members who may be on the phone to
please identify yourself now.
MR. GILKES:

Okay.

Paul Gilkes with Coin World.

MR. MARKS:

Thank you, Paul.

MR. UNSER:

Mike Unser from CoinNews.

MR. MARKS:

I'm sorry, who was that?

MR. UNSER:

Mike Unser from CoinNews.

MR. MARKS:

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Do we need to do a role on the record?
MS. STAFFORD:

It might be a good idea.

Please, Gary.
MR. MARKS:

Okay.

So as I go through the

role, please indicate if you're on the line.
Michael Bugeja?

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(No audible response.)
MR. MARKS:

Robert Hoge?

MR. HOGE:

Here.

MR. MARKS:

Erik Jansen?

MR. JANSEN:
MR. MARKS:

Here.
Donald Scarinci?

MR. SCARINCI:
MR. MARKS:

Here.

Jeanne Stevens-Sollman?

MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
MR. MARKS:

Here.

Tom Uram?

MR. URAM:

Here.

MR. MARKS:

Heidi Wastween?

(No audible response.)
MR. MARKS:

Mary Lannin?

MS. LANNIN:
MR. MARKS:
of course I'm here.

Here.
And I, Gary Marks, the Chair,

So we have a quorum, and that

takes us down to the first item on our agenda,
which is discussion of letters from a previous
meeting.
There are three letters total from our
May 19th meeting in Philadelphia.

I hope that you

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all received my email a short time ago containing a
revised version of the letter from Fallen Heroes of
911.

I have an inaccuracy in the first version and

I apologize for that.
And then there are letters for the 2015
March of Dimes Commemorative Program and the
(inaudible) Congressional Gold Medal.
Is there any discussion on any of those
letters?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:

No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:

No.

MR. MARKS:

Okay, is there a motion?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:

Gary, you may not

have gotten the email that I sent you subsequently.
MR. MARKS:

I did receive it.

UNIDENTIFIED MLAE:
MR. MARKS:

I did.

You did?

Yes, I did.

Thank you.

Is

there a motion to approve the letters, including
the revised version of the Fallen Heroes?
MR. JANSEN:

I hereby move that.

MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
MR. MARKS:

Okay.

Erik.

I second.

It's been moved by

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Erik and I'm sorry, who is the second?
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
MR. MARKS:

Jeanne.

Okay, Jeanne -- to approve

the three letters for the Secretary, including the
revised version of the Fallen Heroes.

All those in

favor, please say "aye."
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS:
MR. MARKS:

"Aye."

Opposed?

(No audible response.)
MR. MARKS:
unanimous approval.

I'll record that as a
That takes us down to the

discussion of the candidate designs for the Shimon
Peres medal.
before.

Sorry, I've never had that problem

Anyway, April, could you give us your

report?
MS. STAFFORD:

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

The United States Mint has developed
designs for a medal honoring Israeli President
Shimon Peres in anticipation of President Obama
signing in to law H.R. 20 -(Telephone interruption.)
MR. MARKS:

Hello?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
MR. MARKS:

Hello.

Hello?
We're having some

phone problems here.
MS. STAFFORD:

Yeah.

Can you hear me

now?
MR. MARKS:

Hello?

MS. STAFFORD:

Can you hear me now?

Gary?
MR. MARKS:
about everyone else?

Yes, I can hear you.

How

Can you hear April?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:

I hear her.

I'm

good.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:

I'm good.

I can

hear you.
MR. MARKS:

Go ahead.

MS. STAFFORD:
MR. MARKS:
there.

I think --

I'm not sure what happened

There was some beeping noise on the line,

but please go ahead, April.
MS. STAFFORD:

Okay.

Thank you.

I'll

start again.
The United States Mint has developed

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designs for a medal honoring Israeli President
Shimon Perez in anticipation of President Obama
signing into law H.R. 2939, a Bill to award a
Congressional Gold Medal to President Shimon Peres.
If President Obama signs the Bill into
law, it will require the Secretary of the Treasury
to strike the gold medal with suitable emblems,
devices and inscriptions.
It will also authorize the Secretary to
strike and make available for sale bronze medals
that bear the likeness of the Shimon Perez
Congressional Gold Medal.
If H.R. 2939 is enacted, the Inscription
Act of Congress, 2014, will be included on the
reverse design.

This inscription is depicted on

each reverse candidate design as a placeholder to
indicate the suggested font and text location.
So I'll start with the designs.

Obverse

one features a portrait of Israeli President Shimon
Peres with the flag of Israel in the background.
"Shimon Perez" is the inscription.
Our liaison and advisor to President

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Peres prefers this obverse design for its accurate
depiction of President Peres.

She does ask that

the Mint slightly modify the flag in this design,
however, noting the stripes are too thick
proportionately to the Star of David.
Reverses one and two depict a Dove of
Peace with inscriptions based on President Peres'
quotations.

Our liaison reverse one for its

inclusion of the inscription "You are as great as
the cause you serve."
So, Mr. Chairman, that concludes the
designs as well as the design descriptions.
MR. MARKS:

Okay.

With that -- I believe

the members all received the email containing these
images.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:
MR. MARKS:
up.

Yes.

If you haven't, please speak

And I guess at this point I'll ask if there

are any comments on the designs presented to us.
MR. JANSEN:

What are the placeholder

"xxx's" of the reverse again to be replaced with?
MS. STAFFORD:

The words "Act of Congress

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2014," pending enactment of H.R. 2939.
MR. JANSEN:

Understood.

MR. BUGEJA:

Sorry, Gary, I'm late.

had to find the call in number.
MR. MARKS:
coming on.

Michael.

Thank you.
I

Michael Bugeja.
Thank you for

We've worked ourselves through --

already have approved the letters from the previous
meeting.

April just gave us her report on the

designs for the Shimon Peres Medal in question, and
now I've just asked for any comments.
MR. BUGEJA:

Thank you, Gary.

And again,

my apologies.
MR. MARKS:

Are there any comments?

MS. LANNIN:
something.

I just want to clarify

Did April say "Act of Congress," 2013

or 2014?
MS. STAFFORD:
MS. LANNIN:

2014.

MS. STAFFORD:

Okay.
And if I could just ask

for our Court Reporter who is present, for those
who speak, if you could please identify yourselves
so she can take the notes.

That would be great.

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Thank you.
MS. LANNIN:
question of April.

Sure.

Mary had asked that

I thought I heard you say

"2013" instead of 2014.
MR. MARKS:

Okay.

Hearing no other

comments, I'll ask if there is a motion concerning
these designs?
MR. HOGE:

I would like --

MR. MARKS:

Robert?

MR. SCARINCI:

Can I make the motion to

approve the designs that the Committee -- that the
host has recommended?
MR. MARKS:

I am recognizing you now to

do that, Donald.
MR. SCARINCI:

Donald Scarinci, making

the motion to approve.
MR. MARKS:
MR. HOGE:
MR. MARKS:

Is there a second?
I'll second.
Okay.

It's Robert.

And I am assuming the

motion is to approve obverse one and reverse one?
MR. SCARINCI:
MR. MARKS:

Correct.

And I'm sorry, who was the

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second?

seconded.

MR. HOGE:

Robert.

MR. MARKS:

Okay.

Yes.
It's been moved and

Is there any further discussion?
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:

Jeanne.

Yes, this is

I'm having a small problem with the tail

of this bird -- of this dove.
I'm not convinced, you know -- I'm not
convinced we're looking at it correctly.

I see

this -- I don't know what you call this -- a lump
above his feet that looks like maybe it should be a
leg -- a leg -- or -- and then the tail feathers
are not coming quite out of the back.
So it looks like we're looking at the
bottom -- or are we looking at the top?

It's not

convincing and I'm not sure if we have a staff mint
artist available.

Don?

Is Don there to help me

understand what I'm looking at?
MR. EVERHART:

Yes, I am here.

This is

Don Everhart.
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
MR. EVERHART:

Hi, Don.

Hi.

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MR. MARKS:

Hi, Don.

MR. EVERHART:

Hi.

You're looking at the

bottom of the tail feathers.
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:

Okay.

Could maybe

the perspective be defined a little better so that
it -- you know, it does look like that.

I'm just -

- there's like a few lines there that are confusing
me to know that I'm looking at it from the bottom,
not from the side or the top.

It's not reading

well, at least in my printout.
MR. EVERHART:

Okay.

We'll take a look

at that.
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
you.

Thank you.

Thank

Otherwise -MR. HOGE:

The feet come out of the lower

leg area, too.
MS. STEVENS-SOLOMAN:

Yeah, Robert.

I

mean, it just doesn't seem like it's possible to do
this.
MR. MARKS:

Okay.

Are there any other

comments or discussion?
(No audible response.)

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MR. MARKS:

Okay.

Hearing none, I'll

call for the question -- all those in favor, please
indicate by saying "aye."
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS:
MR. MARKS:

"Aye."

Opposed?

(No audible response.)
MR. MARKS:
unanimously.

The motion carries

I believe we've reached the end of

our agenda for today.

I want to thank everyone for

being on the phone, and staff, is there anything
more we need to do?
MS. STAFFORD:

Just a sincere "thank you"

to all of the committee members for reviewing -doing this expedited review and comment.

We, at

the Mint, really appreciate it.
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
add one thing.

And if I could just

I'm wishing the Mint a huge success

in this struggle because it was done on time.

I

know this is hard, so thank you for putting the
designs in a simple way for us to see these.
you very much, April.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE:

I think they're

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rather pretty designs, too.
MS. STEVENS-SOLLMAN:
MS. LANNIN:

Yeah.

This is Mary.

Very good.
I think so as

well, and you have my thanks as well.
MR. MARKS:
adjourned.

Okay.

With that we are

Thank you all.
MS. STAFFORD:

Thank you so much.

(Whereupon, at approximately 3:14 p.m.,
the above referenced meeting was adjourned.)

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