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CO N GRESSIO N AL RECORD:
CONTAINING

THE PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES
o r THE

SIXTY-THIRD CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION.




VOLUME LI.

W A S H IN G T O N

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ITAMES AN D POST-OFFICE ADDRESSES •

SENATORS
IN THE

SECOND

SESSION

OF

THE

SIXT Y-TH IR D

CONGEESS.

T homas E. M arshall, Vice President, Indianapolis, Inch
J ames P. C larke, President pro tempore, Little Lock, Ark.

N am e.

A s h u r s t , H e n r y F _________________
B a c o n , A u g u s t u s O .1--------------------B a n k h e a d , J o h n I I _______________
B o r a h , W illia m E ------------------------B r a d le y , W illia m O .2_____________
B r a d y , J a m e s H __________________
B r a n d e g e e , F r a n k B ______________
B r is t o w , J o s e p h L ________________
B r y a n , N a t h a n P _________________
B u r le ig h , E d w in C _______________
B u r to n . T h e o d o r e E ___ ___________
C a m d e n , J o h n s o n N .s-------------------C a tr o n , T h o m a s B ________________
C h a m b e r la in , G e o r g e E __________
C h ilto n . W illia m E _______________
C la p p , M o s e s E ___________________
C la r k , C la r e n c e I ) ------------------------C la r k e , J a m e s P __________________
C o lt, L e R a r o n B --------------------------C r a w fo r d , C o e I __________________
C u lb e r s o n , C h a r le s A -------------------C u m m in s , A lb e r t B ----------------------D illin g h a m , W illia m P ---------------d u P o n t, H e n r y A ------------------------F a ll . A lb e r t B -------------------------------F le t c h e r , D u n c a n U ---------------------G a llin g e r , J a c o b I I ----------------------G o ff, N a t h a n ______________________
G o r e , T h o m a s P ---------------------------G r o n n a , A s le J -----------------------------H itc h c o c k , G ilb e r t M -------------------H o l l i s , H e n r y F ----------------------------H u g h e s , W illia m -------------------------J a c k s o n , W illia m P ---------------------J a m e s , O llie M ____________________
J o h n s o n , C h a r le s F _______________
J o n e s , W e s le y L __________________
K e n y o n , W illia m S _______________
K e r n , J o h n W ------------------------------L a F o lle t t e , R o b e r t M -----------------L a n e , H a r r y ---------------------------------L e a , L u k e -------------------------------------L e e , B l a i r -------------------------------------L e w is , J a m e s H a m ilt o n --------------L ip p it t, H e n r y F --------------------------L o d g e , H e n r y C a b o t--------------------M c C u m b e r , P o r te r ,T--------------------M c L e a n , G e o r g e P ------------------------M a r tin , T h o m a s S ------------------------M a r t in e , J a m e s E -------------------------

H o m e p o s t office.

P r e s c o t t , A r iz .
M a c o n , G a.
J a s p e r , A la .
B o is e , Id a h o .
B e ech m o n t, K y.
P o c a t e llo , I d a h o .
N e w L o n d o n , C on n .
S a lin a , Iv a n s.
J a c k s o n v ille , F la .
A u g u s t a , M e.
C le v e la n d , O h io .
V e r s a ille s , K y .
S a n ta F e , N . M e x .
P o r tla n d , O reg .
C h a r le s to n , W . V a .
S t. P a u l, M in n .
E v a n sto n , W yo.
L i t t le R o c k , A r k .
B r is t o l, R . I.
H u r o n , S. D a k .
D a lla s , T e x .
D e s M o in e s , I o w a .
M o n tp e lie r , V t.
W in te r th u r , D e l.
T h r e e R iv e r s , N . M e x .
J a c k s o n v ille , F la .
C o n c o r d , N . II.
C la r k s b u r g , W . V a .
L a w to n , O k la .
L a k o ta , N . D a k .
O m ah a, N eb r.
C oncord, N . H .
P a te r s o n , N . ,T.
S a lis b u r y , M d.
M a r io n , K y .
W a t e r v ille , M e.
N o r t h Y a k im a , W a sh .
F o rt D od ge, Iow a.
I n d ia n a p o lis , In d .
M a d iso n , W is .
P o r tla n d , O r .g.
N a s h v ille , T e n n .
S ilv e r S p r in g , M d.
C h ic a g o , 111.
P r o v id e n c e , R . I .
N a h a n t, M a s s.
W a h p e to n , N . D a k .
S im s b u r y , C o n n .
C h a r lo t t e s v ille , V a .
P la in f ie ld , N . J.

iD ied Feb. 14, 1014.
2 Died May 23, 1014.
_______
“Appointed in place of William O. Bradley, deceased.




N am e.

M y e r s , H e n r y L ------------N e ls o n , K n u t e ---------------N e w la n d s , F r a n c is G _ _ .
N o r r is , G e o r g e W ---------O ’G o rm a n , J a m e s A -----O liv e r , G e o r g e T -----------O v e r m a n , L e e S _ _ --------O w e n , R o b e r t L — --------P a g e , C a r r o ll S ------ -------P e n r o s e , B o i e s --------------P e r k in s , G e o r g e G--------P it t m a n , K e y ----------------P o in d e x t e r , M ile s ---------P o m e r e n e , A t l e e -----------R a n s d e ll, J o s e p h E ------R e e d , J a m e s A --------------R o b in s o n , J o e T -----------R o o t, E l i l i u _____________
S a u ls b u r y , W illa r d ------S h a fr o t h , J o h n F ---------S h e p p a r d , M o r r is ---------S h e r m a n , L a w r e n c e Y__
S h ie ld s , J o h n K ------------S h iv e ly , B e n j a m in F —
S im m o n s , F . M -------------S m ith , E llis o n D--------S m ith , H o k e -----------------S m ith , J o h n W a lt e r -----S m ith , M a r c u s A ----------S m ith , W illia m A ld e n _ _
S m o o t, R e e d ------------------S te p h e n s o n , I s a a c --------S te r lin g , T h o m a s ---------S to n e , W illia m J ----------S u th e r la n d , G e o r g e ------S w a n s o n , C la u d e A ------T h o m a s , C h a r le s S -------T h o m p s o n , W illia m H _ .
T h o r n to n , J o h n R --------T illm a n , B e n j a m in R __.
T o w n s e n d , C h a r le s E __.
V a r d a n ia n , J a m e s K —
W a ls h , T h o m a s J ---------W a r r e n , F r a n c is E -------W e e k s , J o h n W ------------W e s t, W illia m S .4---------W h ite , F r a n k S .5----------W illia m s , J o h n S h a r p W o r k s , J o h n D-----------

H o m e p o s t office.

H a m ilt o n , M o n t.
A le x a n d r ia , M in n .
R eno, N ev.
M cC o o k , N e b r .
N e w Y o rk , N . Y .
P it t s b u r g h , P a .
S a lis b u r y , N . C.
M u sk o g e e , O k la .
H y d e P a r k , V t.
P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .
O a k la n d , C a l.
Tonopah, N ev.
S p ok ane, W a sh .
C a n to n , O h io.
L a k e P r o v id e n c e , L a .
K a n s a s C ity , M o.
L on olce, A rk .
N e w Y ork , N . Y .
W ilm in g to n , D e l.
D e n v e r , C olo.
T exarkana, T ex.
S p r in g fie ld , 111.
K n o x v ille , T e n n .
S o u th B e n d , ln d .
N e w b e r n , N . C.
F lo r e n c e , S. C.
A t la n t a , G a.
S n o w H ill, M d.
T u c s o n , A r iz .
G r a n d R a p id s , M ich .
P r o v o C ity , U t a h .
M a r in e tte , W is .
R e d fie ld , S . D a k .
J e f fe r s o n C ity , M o.
S a lt L a k e C ity , U t a h .
C h a th a m , V a .
D e n v e r , C olo.
G a r d e n C ity , Iv a n s.
A le x a n d r ia , L a .
T r e n to n , S . C.
J a c k s o n , M ich .
J a c k s o n , M is s .
Helena", M o n t.
C heyenne, W yo.
N e w t o n , M a s s.
V a ld o s t a , G a .
B ir m in g h a m , A la .
B e n t o n , M is s .
L o s A n g e le s , C a l.

4 Appointed in place of Augustus O. Bacon, deceased.
EElected in place of Joseph F. Johnston, deceased.
5




NAMES AND POST-OFFICE ADDRESSES

R E P R E S E N T A T IV E S A N D

DELEGATES

IN THE

SECOND

SESSION

OF

THE

SIXTY-TH IR D

CONGRESS.

Champ Clark , Speaker, Bowling Green, Mo.

H o m e p o s t office.

N am e.

A b e r c r o m b ie , J o h n W ____________
A d a ir , J o h n A . M -------------------------A d a m so n , -W illia m C _____________
A ik e n , W y a tt-1 -----------------------------A in e y , W illia m D . B --------------------A le x a n d e r , J o s h u a W ------------------A lle n , A lfr e d G ___________________
A n d e r s o n , S y d n e y -----------------------A n sb e r r y , T im o th y T _____________
A n th o n y , D a n ie l R ., j r ___________
A s h b r o o k , W illia m A _____________
A s w e ll, J a m e s B __________________
A u s t in , R ic h a r d W ___ ,___________
A v is , S a m u e l B ___________________
B a ile y , W a r r e n W ________________
B a k e r , J . T h o m p so n --------------------B a lt z , W illia m N _________________
B a r e h fe ld , A n d r e w J ------------------B a r k le y , A lb e n W-------------------B a r n h a r t , H e n r y A _ ------------------—
B a r th o ld t, R ic h a r d ---------------------B a r t le t t , C h a r le s L ----------------------B a r to n , S ila s R — ------------------------B a th r ic k , E lls w o r t h R ----------------B e a k e s , S a m u e l W ----------------------B e a ll, J a c k -----------------------------------B e ll, C h a r le s W ---------------------------B e ll, T h o m a s M ------ --------------------B la c k m o n , F r e d L -----------------------B o o k e r , C h a r le s E -----------------------B o r c k e r s, C h a r le s M---------------B o r la n d , W illia m P----------------- ,
B o w d le , S ta n le y E ----------------------B r e m n e r , R o b e r t G.1-------------------B r it t e n , F r e d A ___________________
B r o e k so n , F r a n k lin ______________
B r o d b e c k , A n d r e w R _____________
B r o u s s a r d , R o b e r t F _____________
B r o w n , L a th r o p --------------------------B r o w n , W illia m G-, j r ____________
B r o w n e , E d w a r d E ---------------------B r o w n in g , W illia m J ------------------B r u c k n e r , H e n r y -------------------------B r u m b a u g h , C le m e n t------------------B r y a n , J a m e s W --------------------------B u c h a n a n , F r a n k ------------------------B u c h a n a n , J a m e s P - ------------------B u lk le y , R o b e r t J -----------------------B u r g e s s , G e o r g e F------------------B u r k e , C h a r le s H ________________
B u r k e , J a m e s F ---------------------------B u r k e , M ic h a e l E ------------------------B u r n e tt, J o h n L ---------------------------




T u s c a lo o s a , A la .
P o r tla n d , In d .
C a r r o llto n , G a.
A b b e v ille , S. C.
M o n tr o se , P a .
G a lla tin , M o.
C in c in n a ti, O h io.
L a n e sb o r o , M in n .
D e fia n c e , O h io.
L e a v e n w o r th , Ivans.
J o h n s to w n , O h io.
N a tc h ito c h e s , L a .
K n o x v ille , T e n n .
C h a r le s to n , W . V a .
J o h n s to w n , P a .
W ild w o o d , N . J .
M ills ta d t, 111.
P itts b u r g h , P a ,
P adu cah , K y.
R o c h e s te r , In d .
S t. L o u is , M o.
M a co n , G a.
G ra n d I s la n d , N eb r.
A k r o n , O h io.
A n n A rb o r, M ich .
W a x a h a c h ie , T e x .
P a s a d e n a , C al.
G a in e s v ille , G a,
A n n isto n , A la .
S a v a n n a h , M o.
D e c a tu r , 111.
K a n s a s C ity , M o.
C in c in n a ti, O hio.
P a s s a ie , N . J .
C h ic a g o , 111.
C la y to n , D e l.
H an over, Pa.
N e w Ib e r ia , L a.
S t. J a m e s, N . Y.
K in g w o o d , W . V a.
W a u p a c a , W is.
C a m d en , N . J.
N e w Y ork, N . Y.
C o lu m b u s, O h io.
S e a t tle , W a sh .
C h ic a g o , 111.
B ren ham , T ex.
C le v e la n d , O h io.
G o n z a le s, T e x .
P ie r r e , S. D a k .
P itts b u r g h , P a .
B e a v e r D a m , W is.
G a d sd en , A la .

1 Died Fel). 5, 1914.
2 Resigned May 25, 1914.

N am e.

H o m e p o s t office.

C h a n d le r , W a lte r M ---------------------

C on ry, M ic h a e l F
C oop er. H e n r v A

_ _ -

C o v in g to n . .T. H a r r v 3
__
C ox, W illia m E
C ram ton . L o u is C
C risp , C h a r le s R
G ro sser, R o b e r t
C u llo p , W illia m A
C u rley , J a m e s M .4_ ___________
C u rry, C h a r le s F
D a le H a r r y H
___ ___ ____ ___
Dfln fo r th H e n r y G.
D a v e n p o r t, J a m e s S _______ ___
P a y is C h a r le s R .........
]_>njtrir-l, F red . S
P e n t K H u b e r t, ir

D if e n d e r fe r R o b e r t E.
v u iin n H ila r ie s H
D o n o h o e , M ic h a e l------------------------

W e s t C h e ste r , P a .
A ik e n , S. C.
N a s h v ille , T e n n .
B r o o k ly n , N . Y.
C o m a n ch e, T e x .
P itts b u r g , Ivan s.
C o r in th , M iss.
N e w Y ork , N . Y .
G eo r g e to w n , K y .
J o n e sb o r o , A r k .
N e w Y ork , N . Y .
A le x a n d r ia , V a.
T Jniontow n, P a .
A rd m o re, O k la.
M ilw a u k e e , W is.
W ilk e s-B a r r e , P a .
N e w Y ork , N . Y .
F r e sn o , C al.
S y r a c u se , N . Y.
B o w lin g G reen , M o.
G a in e s v ille , F la .
C h illic o tlie , O h io.
E u fa u la , A la .
A n g o la , In d .
B a ltim o r e , M d.
V ic k sb u r g , M iss.
C olby. Ivan s,
D u b u q u e , Io w a .
N e w Y ork , N . Y .
R a c in e , W is .
A u r o r a , 111.
E a s to n , M d.
J a s p e r . In d .
L a p e e r , M ich .
A m e r ic a s , G a.
C le v e la n d , O h io.
V in c e n n e s, In d .
B o s to n . M a ss.
S a c r a m e n to , C al.
B r o o k ly n , N . Y.
R o c h e s te r , N . Y .
V in ita . O k la.
S t. P e te r . M in n .
J o p lin , Mo.
C a m b rid g e , M a ss.
M o n tg o m e r y , A la .
L e w is b u r g , P a .
C lin to n , M o.
B e a u m o n t, T e x .
J e n k in to w n , P a .
Y a n k to n , S. D a k .
N o r th V e r n o n , In d .
P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .

8 Resigned Sept. SO, 1914.
‘ Resigned Feb. 4, 1914.

1

LIST OF MEMBERS

8

N a m e s a n d p o s t -o f f ic e a d d r e s s e s o f R e p r e s e n t a t i v e s a n d D e l e f f a t c s o f t h e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n t a t i v e s — C o n tin u e d .

Name.

H o m e p o s t office.

Donovan, Jeremiah_____________ S o u th N o r w a lk , C o n n ,
Dooling, Peter J________________ N e w Y o rk , N . Y.
Doolittle. Dudley________________ S tr o n g C ity . K a n s .
Doremus, Frank E ______________ D e t r o it . M ich .
Doughton, Robert L _____________ L a u r e l S p r in g s , N . C.
Driscoll, Daniel A ----------------------- B u ffa lo , N . Y.
Drukker, Dow N .1________________ P a s s a ic , N . J .
Dunn. Thomas B ------------------------- R o c h e s te r , N . Y .
Dupre, II. G_____________________ N e w O r le a n s, L a .
Dyer, L. C.3— ___________________ S t. L o u is , M o.
Eagan, John J___________________ W e e h a w k e n , N . J .
Eagle, Joe H_.___________________ H o u s to n , T e x .
Edmonds, George W ____________ _ P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .
Edwards, Charles G____________ _ S a v a n n a h , G a.
Elder, Walter___________________ M o n r o e , L a .
Esch, John J_____ ________________ L a C r o s se , W is.
Estopinal, Albert________________ E s to p in a l, L a .
Evans, John M__________________ M is s o u la , M o n t,
Fairchild, George W ____________ O n e o n ta , N . Y.
Faison, John M__________________ F a is o n , N . C.
Falconer, J. A ___________________ E v e r e tt , W a sh .
Farr, John R ____________________ S c r a n to n , P a .
Fergusson, Harvey B _____________ A lb u q u e r q u e , N . M eX .
Ferris, Scott____________________ L a w to n , O k la .
Fess, Simeon D _________________ Y e llo w S p r in g s, O h io ,
Fields, William J________________ O liv e H ill, K y .
Finley, David E _________________ Y o r k v ille , S. C.
Fitzgerald, John ,T______________ B r o o k ly n , N . Y .
FitzHenry, Louis________________ B lo o m in g to n , III.
Flood, Henry D__________________ A p p o m a tto x , V a .
Floyd, John C___________________ Y e llv ille , A r k .
Fordney, Joseph W ______________ S a g in a w , M ich .
Foster, Martin D ________________ O ln e y , 111.
Fowler, H. Robert____ __________ E liz a b e t h to w n , 111.
Francis, William B ______________ M a r tin s F e r r y , O h io .
Frear, James A ______ ____________ H u d s o n , W is.
French. Burton L _______________ M o s c o w , Id a h o .
Gallagher. Thomas______________ C h ic a g o , 111.
Gallivan, James A.3_____________ B o s to n , M a s s.
Gard, Warren____________________ H a m ilt o n , O h io .
Gardner, Augustus P____________ H a m ilt o n , M a s s.
Garner, John N ___________________ U v a ld e , T e x .
Garrett, Daniel E ______ _________ H o u s to n , T e x .
Garrett, Finis J___________ _______ D r e s d e n , T e n n .
George, Henry, jr------------------------ N e w Y o rk , N . Y .
Gerry, Peter G__________________ P r o v id e n c e . It. I.
S t. L o u is , M o.
Gill, Michael J.‘ ______________ _
Gillett, Frederick H _____________ S p r in g fie ld , M a s s .
Gilmore, Edward________________ B r o c k to n , M a ss.
Gittins, Robert II________________ N ia g a r a F a lls , N . Y ,
Glass, Carter____________________ L y n c h b u r g , V a .
Godwin, Hannibal______________ D u n n , N . C.
Goeke. J. Henry_________________ W a p a k o n e ta , O h io .
Goldfogle, Henry M_____________ N e w Y o rk , N . Y.
Good, James W _____ ____________ C e d a r R a p id s , I o w a .
Goodwin. William S ______________ W a r r e n , A rk .
Gordon, William________________ _ C le v e la n d , O h io .
Gorman, George E _______________ C h ic a g o , 111.
Goulden, Joseph A ______________ _ N e w Y ork. N . Y.
Graham, George S_______________ P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .
Graham. James M_______________ S p r in g fie ld , 111.
Gray, Finly H ___________________ C o n n e r s v ille , In d .
Green, William R ______________ _ A u d u b o n , I o w a .
Greene, Frank L _________________ S t. A lb a n s , V t.
Greene, William S______________ F a ll R iv e r , M a ss.
Gregg, A. W_:-----------------— P a le s t in e , T e x .
Griest. William W --------------------- L a n c a s te r , P a .
Griffin, Daniel J— --------------------- B r o o k ly n , N . Y.
Gudger, James M„ jr----------------- A s h e v ille , N . C.
Guernsey, Frank E-------------------- D o v e r , M e.
Hamill, James A _______________ J e r s e y C ity , N . J .
Hamilton. Charles M___________. R ip le y , N . Y.
Hamilton, Edward L___________ N ile s , M ich .
Hamlin. Courtney W ___________ S p r in g fie ld , M o.
Hammond, Winfield S __________ S t. J a m e s , M in n .
Hardwick, Thomas W .B_________ S a n d e r s v ille . G a.
C o r s ic a n a , T e x .
Hardy, Rufus__________________
1 Elected in place of Robert G. Bremner, deceased.
3 Election successfully contested by Michael J. Gill,
3 Elected in place of James M. Curley, resigned.




N am e.

H o m e p o s t office.

Harris, C. C.8___________ 1____
D e c a t u r , A la .
Harrison, Byron P ___________ __ G u lfp o r t, M is s.
Hart, Archibald C____________
H a ck en sa c k , N. J.
Haugen, Gilbert N ___________
N o r th w o o d , I o w a .
Hawley, Willis C____________ ___S a le m , O r eg.
Hay, James---------------------------- __ M a d is o n , V a.
P h o e n ix , A r iz ,
Hayden. Carl________________
Hayes, Everis A ______ ______ ___ S a n J o s e , C a l.
Heflin, J. Thomas___________
L a f a y e t t e . A la .
Helgesen, Henry T __________ ____M ilto n , N . D a k .
Helm, Harvey_____________ __ ___S ta n d f o r d , K y .
Helvering, Guy T _____________ __ M a r y s v ille , Iv a n s.
Henry, Robert L _____________ ___ W a c o , T e x .
Hensley. Waiter L ___________ ___ F a r m in g t o n , M o,
M a r io n , 111.
Hill, Robert P_______________
Hinds. Asher C______________ __ P o r tla n d , M e.
Ilinebaugh, William H _______ ___ O t ta w a , H i.
Hobson, Richmond I*________ ___ G r e e n s b o r o , A la .
Holland, Edward E __________ __ S u ffo lk . V a .
Houston, William C~— ______ ___ W o o d b u r y , T e n n .
Howard, William S_________ ___ D e c a t u r , G a.
Howrell, Joseph_____ __________
L ogan , U ta h .
Iloxworth, Stephen A _______ ___R a p a t e e , 111.
Hughes, Dudley M__________ ___ D a n v ille , G a.
Hughes, James A ____________
H u n tin g t o n , W . V a.
Hidings, Willis J___________
O il C ity , P a .
Hull, Cordell_________________ ___Ca r th a g e , T e n n .
Humphrey, William E _______ ___S e a t t le , W a s h .
Humphreys, Benj. G_________ ___ G r e e n v ille , M is s.
Igoe, William L _____________ ___ S t. L o u is , M o.
Jacoway, Henderson M ______ __ D a r d a n e lle , A r k .
Johnson, Albert______________ __ H o q u la m , W a s h .
Johnson, Ben____________ _ ___ B a r d s to w n , K y .
Johnson, Jacob_____ .________ ___S p r in g C ity , U t a h .
Johnson, Joseph T _ _ _ _____ _
S p a r ta n b u r g , S. O.
Jones, William A _______ .____ __„ W a r s a w , V a .
Kahn, Julius_________________
S a n F r a n c is c o , C a l.
Keating, Edward______ _____
P u e b lo , C olo.
Keister, Abraham L ____ ____
S c o t td a le , P a .
L a n s in g , M ic h .
Kelley, Patrick H ______ _____
B
raddock, P a.
Kelly, M. Clyde_____ .______ __
W o o n s o c k e t, R . I .
Kennedy, Ambrose_______ _
M o n tr o se , I o w a .
Kennedy, Charles A__________
N a u g a tu c k , C onn.
Kennedy, William____________
K en t fie ld , C a l.
Kent, William______________ _
S a n D ie g o , C a l.
Kettner, William____________
M a r io n , O h io .
Key, John A ---------------------- ----Kiess, Edgar R_______________
W illia m s p o r t P a ,
Kindel, George J _____________
D e n v e r , C olo.
O ’N e ill, N e b r .
Kinkaid, Moses P _____________
J e r s e y C ity , N . J .
Kinkead, Eugene F __________
Kirkpatrick, Sanford________
O t tu m w a , I o w a .
Kitchin, Claude________ ___ __
S c o t la n d N e c k , N . G.
Knowland, Joseph R_________
A la m e d a . C al.
Konop, Thomas F __!___ '______
K e w a u n e e . W is .
I n d ia n a p o lis , In d .
Korbly, Charles A _____ ___ _
A n n v ille , P a .
Ivreider, Aaron S_______ _____
P o r tla n d , O r e g .
Lafferty, A. W ______________ _
P u llm a n , W a sh .
La Follette, William L _______
I n d ia n a , P a .
Langham, Jonathan N _ ______
P ik e v ilie , K y.
Langley, John W _____________
W a s h in g t o n , L a .
Laznro, Lndislas__________.___
C h ic k a m n u g a , G a.
Lee, Gordon------ '-------------------P o t t s v ille , P a .
Lee, Robert E _________ ________
J a c k s o n v ille , F la.L’Engle, Claude______________
S u p e r io r , W is .
Lenroot, Irvine L ------------------Lesher, John V _______________
S u n bury. P a.
L
e x in g t o n , S . C .
Lever, Asbury F ---------------------N ew Y ork, N. Y.
Levy, Jefferson M-----------------C u m b e r la n d . M il.
Lewis, David J— ------------------A lle n t o w n , P a .
Lewis, Fred E -------------------------R o c k p o r t, In d .
Lieb, Charles_________________
Lindbergh, Charles A ------------L i t t le F a lls , M in n .
G r e e n v ille , M ic h .
Lindquist, Francis O --------------B a lt im o r e , M d.
Lintliicum, J. Charles-----------S h e lb y v ille , M o.
Lloyd, James T -----------------------O m aha, N ebr.
Lobeck, C. O_______ __________
4 Successfully contested election of I.. C. Dyer.
5 Resigned Nov. 2, 1914.
8 Elected in place of William Richardson, deceased.

LIST OF MEMBERS.

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K a rn es an d p o s t-o ffic e a d d r e s s e s o f R e p r e s e n t a t i v e s a n d D e l e g a t e s o f th e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n t a t i v e s — C o n tin u e d .

N am e.

H o m e p o st office.

Loft, George W _______________
N e w Y o rk . N . Y .
P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .
Logue. J. Washington________
Lonergan, Augustine_________
H a r tfo r d . C onn.
McAndrews. James-__________
C h ic a g o , 111.
McClellan, George-----------------C h a th a m , N . Y.
McCoy, Walter I.1______________
E a s t O ra n g e. N . J .
McDermott. James T .1_________
C h ica g o . 111.
MacDonald, William J________
C a lu m e t, M ich.
McGillicuddy. Daniel J_______
L e w is to n , M e.
McGuire, Bird S________ _____
P a w n e e , O k la .
McKellar, Kenneth D _________
M e m p h is. T e n n .
E liz a b e th , 111.
McKenzie. John C_____ '._______
M u sk e g o n . M ich.
McLaughlin. James C________
Madden. Martin B ____________
C h ic a g o , 111.
L in c o ln , N eb r.
Maguire. John A______________
Mahan, Bryan F ______________
N e w L o n d o n , C on n .
Maher, James P__________
B r o o k ly n . N . Y.
Manahan, James_____________
M in n e a p o lis, M inn.
Mann. James R_______________
C h ic a g o . 111.
Mapes, Carl E________________
G ra n d R a p id s , M ich .
Martin. Eben W ______________
D e a d w o o d , S. D a k ,
P o ts d a m , N . Y.
Merritt. Edwin A., jr_________
Metz, Herman A ______________
B r o o k ly n , N . Y.
Miller Clarence B _____________
D u lu th . M inn.
Mitchell, John J______________
M a rlb o ro , M a ss.
Mondell. Frank W ____________
N e w c a s t le , W y o .
Montague, Andrew J_________
R ic h m o n d . V a.
C h a tta n o o g a . T e n n .
Moon, John A_________________
Moore, J. Hampton___________
P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .
Morgan. Dick T ________________
W o o d w a r d , O k la .
C o v in g to n . L a.
Morgan. Lewis L_____________
Morin. John M________________
P itts b u r g h , P a .
Morrison. Martin A ___________
F r a n k fo r t. In d .
Moss. Hunter IT., jr ____________
P a r k e r sb u r g , W . V a ,
Moss. Ralph W ______ _________
C e n te r P o in t, In d ,
Mott. Luther W _______________
O sw e g o . N . Y.
G e n e v a , A la .
Muikey, W. O.8________________
Murdock. Victor______________
W ic h ita , Iv a n s.
B o s to n , M a ss.
Murray, William F.*__________
T is h o m in g o , O k la.
Murray. William LI___________
H u tc h in s o n . Ivan s.
Neelev. George A _____________
Neely, M. M__________________
F a ir m o n t, W . V a.
Ne son. John M_______________
M a d iso n , W is.
S a n F r a n c is c o , C al.
Nolan, John I _________________
H e t tin g e r , N . D a k .
Norton. Patrick D____________
B r o o k ly n . N . Y.
O’Brien. James H ------------------Y o n k e r s. N . Y .
Oglesby. Woodson R -- -----------P a r is , 111.
O’Hair. Frank T --------------------B a t e s v ille , A rk .
Oldfield. William A ----------------D o u g la s to n . N . Y .
O’Leary. Denis_______________
P r o v id e n c e , R . I.
O’Shaunessy. George F_______
C o lu m b ia , T e n n .
Padgett. Lemuel P____________
B is c o e , N . C.
Page. Robert N_______________
S o u tlib r id g e , M a ss.
Paige, Calvin D ________________
S tr o u d s b u r g ,,P a .
Palmer. A. Mitchell___________
S y lv e s t e r , Ga.
Park, Frank__________________
Parker. James S __________________ S a le m . N . Y.
N e w Y o rk , N . Y .
Patten. Thomas G____________
Patton. Charles E_______________ C u r w e u s v ille . P a .
A u b u r n . N . Y.
Payne. Sereno E______________
Pepper, Irvin S .'_______________
M u sc a tin e , Io w a .
Peters, Andrew J.“____________
B o s to n , M a ss.
Peters. John A ________________
E lls w o r t h , M e.
Peterson. John B ---------------------C ro w n P o in t, In d .
L y n n , M a ss.
Phelan. M. F--------------------------P o u g h k e e p s ie , N . Y.
Platt. Edmund-----------------------Plumley. Frank-------------------------- N o r th fle ld . V t.
Porter. Stephen G_______________ P itts b u r g h , P a .
Post. J. D _______________________ W a s h in g to n C. IL , O h io.
I’oii. Edward W _________________ S m itlifle ld , N . C.
Powers. Caleb___________________ B a r b o u r v ille , Ivy.
Prouty. S. F ____________________ D e s M o in e s. I o w a .
Quin. Percy E----------------------------- M cC om b C ity , M iss.
Ragsdale, J. Willard____________ F lo r e n c e , S. C.
1 Resigned Oct. ", 1014.
2 Resigned July 21, 1014.
3 Elected in place of Henry D. Clayton, resigned.
* Resigned Sept. 28, 1014.


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Rainey, Henry T _____________
Raker. John E________________
Rauch. George W _____________
Rayburn. Sam________________
Reed, E . E____________________
Reilly, Michael Iv_________ ___
Reilly. Thomas L _____________
Richardson, William 7_._______
Riordan, Daniel J------------------Roberts. E . E-------------------------Roberts. Ernest W --------------------- Rogers. John .T-----------------------Rothermel John H ----------------Rouse. Arthur B_,------;-----------Itubey. Thomas L ----------------Rucker, William W ---------------Rupley, Arthur R------------------Russell. Joseph J-------------------Sabath. Adolph J_—_________
Saunders. Edward W ------------Scott, George C— ----------- _—
Scully. Thomas J----- .------- —
Seldomridge. II. II-----------------Sells. Sam It-------------------------Shackleford. Dorsey W ---------Sharp, William G.8----------------Sheri ey Swagar--------------------Sherwood. Isaac R----------------Shreve. Milton WT------------------Sims, Thetus W --------------------Sinnott. Nicholas J---------------Sisson. Thomas U------------------Slayden. James L__------------------Slemp. C. Bascom_______________
Sloan. Charles H _____________
Small. John H __ _____________
Smith, Addison T ____________
Smith, Charles B _____________
Smith. Frank O______________
Smith, George R_____________
Smith, J. M. C__________________
Smith Samuel W _______________
Smith. William It_______________
Sparkman. Stephen M ___ _______
Stafford. William II____________
Stanley. Augustus O____________
Stedman. Charles M -------------------Steenerson. Halvor_____________
Stephens. Dan V________________
Stephens. Hubert D _____________
Stephens. John H ---------- -------------Stephens, William D-----------------Stevens, Frederick C___________
Stevens. Raymond B-----------------Stone, Claudius U ---------------------Stout. Tom_____________________
Stringer. Lawrence B---------------Sumners. Hatton W ------------------Sutherland. Howard-----------------Switzer. Robert INI---------------------Taggart. Joseph------------------------Talbott. J. Fred. C---------------------Talcott. Charles A ---------------- ----Tavenner, Clyde LI--------------------Taylor, Benjamin I -------------------Taylor. Edward T ---------------------Taylor, George W --------------------Taylor. Samuel M—-----------------Temple. Henry W --------------------Ten Eyck. Peter G------------------Thacher, Thomas C_---------------Thomas, Robert Y.. jr--------------Thompson, Joseph B------------Thomson, Charles M----------3 Died Dec. 22, 1013.
0 Resigned Aug. 15, 1914.
7 Pied Mar. 31, 1914.
8 Resigned July 22, 1914.

H o m e p o st office.

C a r r o llto n , HI.
A ltu r a s , C a l.
M a r io n , In d .
Bonham . T ex.
M a n c h e s te r , N . II.
F o n d d u L a c , W is.
M erid en , C on n .
H u n ts v ille , A la .
N e w Y ork , N . Y.
C a r so n C ity . N e r .
C h e lse a , M a ss.
L o w e ll, M a ss.
R e a d in g , P a .
B u r lin g to n , K y .
L e b a n o n , M o.
K e y t e s v ille . M o.
C a r lis le . P a .
C h a r le s to n , M o.
C h ic a g o . 111.
R o c k y M o u n t, V a.
S io u x C ity . I o w a .
S o u th A m b o y , N . J.
C o lo r a d o S p r in g s. C olo
J o h n so n C ity , T e n n .
J e ffe r so n C ity , M o,
E ly r ia . Ohio."
L o u is v ille , Ivy.
T o le d o , Ohio."
E r ie , P a.
L in d en , T e n n .
T h e D a lle s O reg.
W in o n a , M iss.
S a n A n to n io , T e x ,
B ig S to n e G ap, V a.
G e n e v a , N eb r.
W a sh in g to n , N . C.
T w in F a lls , Id a h o .
B u ffa lo . N . Y.
D u n k ir k , M d.
M in n e a p o lis, M in n ,
C h a r lo tte . M ich .
P o n tia c , M ich.
C olorad o, T e x .
T a m p a , F la .
M ilw a u k e e , W is.
H e n d e r s o n , K y.
G reen sb oro. N . C.
C r o o k sto n . M in n .
F r e m o n t. N eb r.
N e w A lb a n y , M iss.
V ern o n , T e x .
L o s A n g e le s . C al.
S t. P a u l, M in n .
L isb o n , N . II.
P e o r ia , 111.
L e w is to w n , M on t.
L in c o ln . 111.
D a lla s , T e x .
E lk in s , W . V a.
G a llip o lis , O h io.
K a n s a s C ity , Ivan s.
L u th e r v ille , M d.
U tic a , N . Y.
C o rd o v a . 111.
H a r r is o n , N . Y .
G le n w o o d S p r in g s , C olo.
D e m o p o lis , A la .
P in e B lu ff, A rk .
W a s h in g to n , P a .
A lb a n y , N . Y.
Y a r m o u th . M a ss.
C e n tr a l C ity , K y .
P a u ls V a lle y , O k la.
C h ic a g o , III.

LIST OF MEMBERS.
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anil p o s t -o f f ic e a d d r e s s e s o f R e p r e s e n t a t i v e s a n d D e l e g a t e s o f t h e M o n t e o f R e p r e s e n t a t i v e s

T o w n e r , H o r a c e M ----------------T o w n s e n d , E d w a r d W ---------------T r e a d w a y , A lle n T ---------------------T r ib b le , S a m u e l J ----------------------T u t t le . W illia m E ., j r ---------------U n d e r b ill, E d w in S --------------U n d e r w o o d , O sc a r W -----------V a r e . W illia m S --------------------V a u g h a n , H o r a c e W ------------V o llm e r , H e n r y 1-------------------------V o ls t e a d , A n d r e w J -------------------W a lk e r , J o h n I t --------------------------W a llin , S a m u e l---------------------------W a ls h , A lla n B ---------------------------W a lt e r s , A n d e r s o n I I ----------------W a t k in s , J o h n T ------------------------W a t s o n , W a lt e r A ------------------—
—— —— —--------------- "------ —

N am e.

H o m e p o s t office.

N am e.

W e a v e r , C la u d e --------------------------W e b b , E d w in Y ------------------------—
W h a le y , E ic h a r d S ----------------------W h ita c r e , J o h n J -----------------------W h ite , G e o r g e -----------------------------W illia m s , W illia m E -----------------W illis , F r a n k B -------------------------W ils o n , E m m e t t -------------------------"W ilson, F r a n k E ------------------------W in g o , O t is T ----------------------------W in s lo w , S a m u e l E -------------------W ith e r s p o o n , S a m u e l A -----------W o o d r u ff, E o y O ------------------------W o o d s , F r a n k P ------------------------Y o u n g , G e o r g e M ------------------------Y o u n g , J a m e s -------------------------

C o r n in g , I o w a .
M o n tc la ir . N . J .
S to e k b r id g e , M a s s .
A t h e n s , G a.
W e s tfie ld , N . J .
B a t h , N . Y.
B ir m in g h a m , A la .
P h ila d e lp h ia , P a .
T exark ana, T ex.
D a v en p o rt, Io w a .
G r a n ite F a lls , M in n .
V a ld o s t a , G a.
A m s te r d a m , N . Y .
T r e n to n , N . J .
J o h n sto w n , P a.
M in d e n , L a .
J e n n in g s O r d in a r y , V a .

C o n tin u e d .

H o m e p o s t office.

O k la h o m a C ity , O k la .
S h e lb y , N . C.
C h a r le s to n , S. C.
C a n to n , O h io.
M a r ie t t a , O h io ,
P it t s f ie ld , 111.
A d a , O h io .
P e n s a c o la , F la .
B r o o k ly n , N . Y .
D e Q ueen, A rk .
W o r c e s te r , M a s s .
M e r id ia n , M is s.
B a y C ity , M ic h .
E s t b e r v iile , I o w a .
V a lle y C ity , N . D a k .
K a u fm a n , T e x .

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DELEG ATES.

K a la n ia n a o lc , J . K u h io -------------- H o n o lu lu , H a w a ii.
R E S ID E N T

E a r n s h a w , M a n u e l----------------------Q u e z o n , M a n u e l L -----------------------




M a n ila , P . I.
T a y a b a s .P . I.

W ic lc e r s h a m , J a m e s --------------------

F a ir b a n k s , A la s k a .

CO M M I S S I O N E R S .
E iv e r a , L u is M u n o z .

i Elected in place of Irvin S. Pepper, deceased.

San Juan, P. R .

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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ftNDEX.
OWEN— Continued.

OVERMANt-Continued. *
R em arks by. on

Internal-revenue agents, 11794, 11795, 11796.
International conference on social insurance, 13133,
Kane, Thomas P . : salary of, 10392.
.
;<§
■
.
Legislative, executive, and judicial appropriation nill, 10301,
10305, 10306, 10311, 10387, 10388, 10396, 10408,-10410
MedawakJtaton and Wahpakoota (Santee) Sioux Inmans, 32a0.
Mexican refugees : support of, 5037, 5038.
Muhleman, 'Elizabeth : relief of, 8173.
National Exposition Commission, 11710, 11711, sJ1712.
New York Central & Hudson River Railroad Co-, 9430, 9432,
9433.
1
Jr
New York Cofeon Exchange, 5079, 5080.
;•/ .
„„„ •
New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad inquiry, o82o, 388o.
Payment to Colombia, 16520.
-m
Pennsylvania district judge, 2360, 2361, 32492?
Personal statement— Gold Hill Consolidated .Co,, 10469, 104 <0.
Petition against polygamy. 9424.
Point of order---radium bill, 6732, 6733, 6790.
Printing of documents, 5648.
Punishment for .Certain crimes, 3251.
.'f
Railroad In North: Carolina, 1634, 1035,i
Railroad lobby, 5459.
Removal of snow and ice, 5676.
,:
Sellers, James F. 1 .Appointment of, 5212, 5213,
Shoshone Indian churns, 11880, 11883.
Soldier’s roll of Senate, 9852.
Sundry civil appropriation bill, 11078, 11681, 11714.
Truck soils : article>on, 3249.
Vice admirals, 3435,1,3430, 3137jr8&40.
War tax conference report, 1693s©-.
White-slave prosecutions, 754.,
R ep orts made by, from h;
Committee of conference:
Diplomatic and Consular appropriation bill (H. R. 15761), 11226.
Pennsylvania district ju d ge’(bill H. K. 32), 2i>63.
Committee on Appropriations :
Blackburn, Joseph C. S. (S. .T. Res. 107), 2730.
Diplomatic and Consular?'appropriation bill (H. R. 15762 ; Rept.
592), 10280.
M
Relief of American citizens abroad (H. J. Res. 312), 13155.
Committee on Claims
W
Atlantic Coast Line.‘ft'ailrttad Co. (Rept. 243), 3312.
Atwater, Dorence—tSftdow of (Rept. 373). 5445.
Davenport FemaleXCollege (Rept. 286), 3935.
Dennis, James II,: (Rept. 374), 5445.
Dillon, Nelson Ite- (Rept. 244), 3312.
Jelovac, Pete (Rept. 617), 11076.
Moore, Rittenhgpse (Rept. 455), 7355.
Muhleman, Elizabeth (Rept. 398), 6096.
Preston, Simofl M. (Rept. 375), 5445 .............
Prioleau, MrW Thomas G. (Rept. 616), 11076.
Williams, TL S. (Rept. 380), 5445.
Committee onfflrhe Judiciary :
Amendmen#of Constitution (Rept, 147, pt. 2 ), 2923.
Court offi®rs’ bonds (Rept. 242), 8312.
North Carolina courts (Rept. 797), 15612.
Pennsylvania judicial districts (bill H. R. 17442), 14611.
Repeal oi loyalty requirement in claims (Rept. 319), 4o07,
WfisonJrN. C., court (Kept. 159), 1889.
Cotnmittsp on Rules:
,
Committee on Naval Affairs: resolution to enlarge (S. Res. 2 (9 ),
Senate Chamber: resolution to prohibit smoking in (S. Res. 42),
Senate"Rule XXV (Rept. 659), 12006.

V otes o ff

See Y e a -a n d -N a y V o t e s .

OVERMIME, MARY, pension (see hill H. R. 10985).
OVERMIKE, SILAS, relief (see bill H. R. 14733).
OVERT®! BENJAMIN F., Increase pension (see bills H, R. 12356,
14234*).
OVIAT^t MARY J„ increase pension (see hill H. R. 16769).
OWEG0, N. Y., relating to public building site at (see bill H. R.
[ ’ 153°0*)
Bill to purchase site for public building at (see bill H. R.
$ 17824*).
O W E N , ALBERT J., pension (see bill H. R. 19170).
OWEN, CHARLES T„ increase pension (see bill IL R. 15423).
OWEN, ELSIE A., pension (see bills H. R. 10572, 15692*).
OWEN, EMMA S., pension (see bill H. R. 14447).
••iuewsfee-Pension (see bills EL R. 11963, 15692*).
OWEN, ROBERT L. ( a S en a tor from O klahom a).
Attended, 1.
Appointed conferee, 1230, 13155.
A m en dm ents offered by. to

Cannon: bill (S. 5495) donating, 33773.
„ „
Currency: bill (II. It. 7837) to furnish an elastic, 22, 139, 1049,
1128, 1129, 1131, 1132, 1133, 1134, 1144, 1145, 1146. 1147,
1148, 1149, 1150, 1190.
Indian appropriation b ill: payment to trustees of Henry Kendall
College, 593.
---------- relief of Eva M. Bowman, 3313.
---------- Ponca Indian claims, 3743.
----------Creek tribal funds, 4186.
----------agreement with Muskogee (Creek) Indians, 4312, 10935,

;______ relief of Loyal Creek Indians and freedmen, 0723.
----------claims of Ponca Indians, 10175.
Legislative, executive, and judicial appropriation b ill: assistant
superintendent State, War, and Navy Department Building,
6723.
Post Office appropriation bill. 3950, o95o.
Sundry civil appropriation b ill: exhibit at Panama-Pacific Inter­
national Exposition. 10009.
----------petroleum and natural gas, 11164.
----------inspection of prisons, 10514.




339

The * indicates bills acted upon.

B ills and jo in t resolu tion s introduced by

Al4450)lS 8R8 l T : t0 alIow bridge across Salt Fork of J see bill S.
Cain, Emma: to pension (see bill S. 3534), 101.
CamihHciLfUofdVnr,t? ■v0 (?jfy’ revlse> and amend laws relating to
6361 ^ *14044 contnbutIons and expenditures of (see bill S.
Champhun, Edward P. : to increase pension (see bill S. 3535),
C1bill Sab4 5 f l ) ° 37420nt

interstat0

commerce in products of (see

Chbma^ 5*307)^16834SaW Nation* : lo adjudicate claims of (see
Click, G. W. : for relief of heirs (see bill S. 36101 593
Creek Indians : to pay balance due (see bill S 4602) 3890
E l e c t t a .^ t o a g g ™ c o r n e t p ractice,-fa i S J i S
tree
5865. 5908), 10453, 10760.
--------- fO10790S *° prevent c°rruptlon in

F%%Vc7VSL‘l: SSaSSf

“ S (See blUs
(see S. Res. 399),

r«Utl™»

E,,3 7 1 3 ) ' m s "
'a llas Jo" ' pl1 Ens 1"n<1; to pension

(sec Mil s .
Federal reserve banks : to amend act relating to reserv e nf iw a
bill S. 4966), 5084.
icseives ot (see
----- -— to amend act relative to discount of acceptances hv (see
bill S. 4967), 5084.
^ p r a n c e s cy (see
--------- to^^amend act establishing (see bills S. 6397, 6399),
Friedman, Harry: to pension (see bill S. 6316), 13926
Gaines, Myra Clarke: for relief of heirs (see bill S. 5275) 672.3
Hall, Sylvester Y .: for relief of estate (see bill S. 4 4 5 1 1 ’ agio
Holland, A. W .: for relief (see bill S. 5296), 6780.
”
Horn, Mary B. : to pension (see bill S. 4454), 3313.
Johnson, Montford T. : for relief of estate (see bill S 44501
3313.
'
Legislative reference bureau: to establish (see bill S. 5044)
5339.
’
Long, Nathan: to pension (see bill S. 5537), 8426.
Mann, Allen J . : for relief of estate (see bill S. 3615), 593.
Mann, Charles E. : to pension (see bill S. 5339), 7072.
“ Member banks ” : to indemnify depositors against loss in case
of failure or suspension of (see bill S. 4844), 4594.
Menz, Rboda, W. W. Christmas, and James M. Christm as: for
relief (see bill S. 5275), 6723.
Morton, William P .: for relief (see bill S. 5060), 5440.
Muskogee (Creek) Nation of Indians: to provide for carrying
into effect agreement between United States and (see bill S
5392), 7182.
x
, . ,
National banks: to amend act to regulate (see bill S. 6398),
Nichols,’Phebe M. : to pension (see bill S. 3661), 752.
Oil pipe lines : to secure to United States a monopoly of (see bill
S. 5550), 8487.
Oklahoma : to vacate certain land reserved for town site in (see
bill S. 4619), 3879.
,
„
--------- authorizing State to control beds of navigable streams in
(see S. J. Res. 131), 5208.
Panama C anal: to amend section 5 of act to provide for open­
ing, maintenance, protection, and operation of (see bill S.
4893). 4789.
„ _ ,
Parker, Stephen W .: for relief (see bill S. 5o07), 8207.
Pearson, William: for relief (see bill S. 5764), 10009.
Political contributions: to amend act to provide for publicity of
(see bill S. 5810), 10211.
Ponca City. Okla. : authorizing city to convey certain lands (see
bill S. 4880), 4721.
,
---------- to erect public building at (see bill S. o062), 5446.
Publicity pam phlets: relating to transmission through the mails
of (see S. J. Res. 87), 422.
Raines, I. R. : to pension (see bill S. 4q72), 3742
Riner, W. II. : to increse pension (see bill S. 3617), 593.
Schallenberg, W illiam : to increase pension (see bills S. 5276,
5538). 6723, 8426.
, ,
. ,
Senators and Representatives: to terminate minority rule in
nomination and election of (see bill S. 5809), 10211.

bill S. 4673), 4135.
, .
Tulsa. O kla.: to enumerate population of city of (see bill S.
4601). 3820.
Williams, Martin L. : to pension (see bill S. 6317), 13926.
Wilson, Elsworth : to place on retired list of Army (see bill S.
Wyant? Mary J. : to pension (see bills S. 5536, 6442), 8426,
14707.

M otion s and resolution s offered by

Adjourn: to, 27, 73.
Brian William J . : to print address by, 10453.
Committee on Banking and Currency : to allow them to employ
financial expert (see S. Res. 318), n o il.
Currency bill : to print House print of, 21.
______ to print in parallel columns comparative print of (S,
Doc. 264), 515.
______ to print as document comparative print of (S. Doc. 335),

______ to print (see S. Con. Res. 12), 1289.
______ to print conference report on, 1363.
Direct legislation: to print article by Frank E. Parsons on (S.
Doc. 360), 1561
Five Civilized Tribes : to print statement relating to persons en­
titled to enrollment in (S. Docs. 472, 478), 7182, 7603, 7685.
Legislative reference bureau : to print statement relating to (S.
Doc. 457), 5339
Preferential voting: to print article by C. G. Hoag on (S. Doc.
359), 1589.
See “ History of Bills.”

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD INDEX.

3
OWEN— Continued

M otions and resolu tion s offered by

Rides*of Senate : for amendment relative to flxin time for Anal
vote
S.. lies.
283). 3030.
vine
((see m
i vv- n. —
v , 4l3.>,
* * y. ,
-i o o i 1
Short-ballot m ovem ent: to print
1 0 - 1 1 . . ... ..
and
Switzerland : to print paper by Carl S. Mooman on initiative ana
referendum in (S. Doc. 253), 101.
Metiilon*: anil pa p ers p resen ted 'by, from
0
kkia 0833
Citizens and individuals. 06, 1488, ‘’OiS.
«>7, ->-»(. 04x 0, v o o o ,
74tit). 8802, 10008. 10080, 13008, 1«©®9.
Societies and associations, 06, .50 1,
h< W
l A /iiKka^ra11roads—unanimous consent, 424, 425.

Anritrust IcRirifltVcm— labor''and farmers’ organizations, 14023.
Caddo County, Okla., lands 12783.
Civil service— commercial attaches,
Colorado coal strike 10009.
Commissioner of Indian Affairs, 9t0»3£>.
Creek equalization fund, 418 (L
Cur

1130, 1144, 1145, 1146, 1147', 1148, 1149, 1152, 1150,
1100, 1101, 1104, 1105, HOC, 119 c 1204, 1209, 1-10,
1211. 1225, 1220, 1230.
___ —-guaranty of deposits, 1152; 1472.
------- — remarks of Mr. Hoot. 1033.
Currency ini! amendments. 610. 687.
Currency bill debate. 37. 39, 163, 164, lo o , l o t .
Currency bill of 1803, 1211.
1
o -ta m 1471
Currency conference report, 1301, D>62, 1408, 1409, 14 i O, 14 <1 ,
1 4 7 2/1473, 1482, 1480, 1487.
Democratic caucus, 163.
iotro
Democratic national platform—‘political reform, 10789.
District of Columbia trust companies, 11-8.
Drainage of Indian lands, 5083.
14701 1 4 7 0 0 1470 3
Emergency .currency, 13007, 13154, 13l5u, 14721, 147-2, 1 4 ,-o,
Federal Reserve Board employe,os, 1138, 1139, 1144.
Federal reserve deposits, 8334.
„
Click, George Washington : statue of, 12310.
Government ownership of pipe lines, 9bOG
Hetch Hc.tehy Valley project, 184.
mmvt 10005
Indian appropriation hill, iteflQ. 10593, 108SL, 108B8, lOofao,
10606, 10607, 10008, 10060, 10070, 10671, 10672, 10,2.),
10730 10852, 10853, 10854, 10855, 10931, 10932, 1093o,
10936, 11010.
Industrial conditions, 10762.
Initiative and referendum, 14023, 14024, 10291.
Mexican situation, 8508-8517.
_____ ,
Mississippi Choctaws, 10713, 10714, 10715, 10710, 10718, 10724,
10725, 10726, 10728, 10704, 10765, 10700, 1070 1, 10948, 10940,
10050, 11014, 11015, 11016, 11017, 11018. (Appendix, 381.)
Muskogee (Creek) Nation of Indians, 13768.
Navigable streams in Oklahoma, 5208.
Now York City Reform Club resolutions, 8120.
Oklahoma oil production, 8427,
Oklahoma oil prices, 10580.
_,,no r - ar - „ ePanama Canal tolls, 3001, 5213, 5214, 5;>92-5G02, 5780, 5787,
5788. 5780. 5700, 7000, 7067.
Panic of 1007, 9S3.
...
Parcel-post regulations, 3841, 3001, 3948, 3949, 3950.
Personal privilege— currency bill debate, 869.
——---- roll call, 593.
Point of no quorum, 547, 540, 550, 551, 593, 594.
Postmaster General : letter from, 13842.
Proposed legislation, 517.
Railway freight rates, S I72.
Reserves held by State banks, 13294, 13295.
Roll call of Senate, 07.
Rural mall carriers' pay, 13842.
Senator from Utah. 105.
Telepost system, 10453.
Unlimited debate, 9870, 9877.
Woman suffrage, 3001, 4194, 4272-4274, 4281, 4336.

OWENS, .TAMES, remove charge of desertion (see bill H. R. 12511).
OWENS, JAMES C„ relief (see bill H. It. 10401).
OWENS, LONDOREE F„ increase pension (see bill II. II. 10145).
OWENS, MARIA A., pension (see bill H. It. 10403).
OWENS, PATRICK, increase pension (see bill IL It. 14305).
OWENS, TIDE, pension (see bill S. 5842).
OWENS, WILLIAM A., pension (see bills S. 1817, 4552*).
OWSLEY, HENRY B„ pension (sec bill IT. It. 12253).
OYLEAR, JONATHAN C., Increase pension (see bill II. R. 17450).
OYLER, JOHN E., increase pension (see bills J3. R. 15881, 16294*).
OYSTER, JOSHUA, pension (see bills S. 1079, 4201*).
OYSTER BEDS. S ee F loiuda ; T exas .
PABST, JOHN, increase pension tsee bill H. R. 15359).
PACE, ELIZABETH .1., pension (.see bill H. It. 14188).
PACE, JOHN, increase pension (see bills 8 . 5480, 5575*).
PACE, WILLIAM, pension (see bill H. R. 18083).
PACIFIC BRANCH OF UNITED STATES MILITARY PRISON, trans­
fer from W a r Department to Department of Labor the control
and jurisdiction over (see bill II. It. 10401).
Letter of Secretary of War transm itting annual report of affairs
at (II. Doc. 391). 418.
PACIFIC COAST, amendment in Senate making appropriation for salary
of assistant in charge of Pacific (coast fisheries station, «120.
B ills making appropriation for printing maps and reports relating to Kelp beds on (see bills S. 3512; II. It. 10235*.
10729*, 11969).
.
, ,
Bill making appropriation for submarine torpedo boats on (see
bill H. R. 11313).
.
,
.... „
B ill to establish fishery experiment station on (see hill fe. 4977*).
PACIFIC COAST CO., list of vessels belonging to, 13598.
PACIFIC COAST TERMINALS, address delivered by Representative
Knowland, of California, on subject of, 712. (Appendix, 9.)
PACIFIC CREOSOTING CO., relief (see bill S. 690*).
PACIFIC MARINE REVIEW, correspondence relative to the so-called
seamen’s bill (Appendix, 891).
PACKARD, BLANCHE, pension (see -bills S. 858, 4909*).
PACKARD, CLARA A., pension (see bill S. 5010).
PACKARD, EMMA L., increase pension (sec bill II. R. 10977).
PYCKARD, ITIINEAS L., increase pension (see bills H. R. 15138,
16294*).
PACKARD MOTOR CAR CO., telegram remonstrating against proposed
war tax on automobiles, 1 0 1 0 1 .
PADGETT. LEMUEL P. (a R ep re sen ta tiv e fro m T en n es see).
Attended, —
Appointed conferee, 10091, 10s>80. 1097...
Appointed teller, 7395, 8118, 32,j7.
Leave of absence granted to, 9190, l-o 2 8 .

R ep orts made bp, from

Committee of conference:
Currency (bill H. R. 7837; S. Doc. 335 , 13o2.
Emergency currency (bill S. 0192), 13210.
_
Committee on Banking and Currency:
Emergency currency (bills S. 6192, 0398), 13067, 14721.
Federal reserve hanks (bill S. 0430; Rept. T i l ) , 14653.
Reserves in State banks (bill S. 4000), 7474.
Stock exchanges (Kept. 018), 11075.
Committee on the Census :
Tulsa, Okla., ponulation (hill S. 4601), 5;»72.
Committee on Indian Affairs:
Drainage of Indian allotments of Five Civilized Tribes (Kept.
351), 5083.
Drainage assessments on Indian lands in Oklahoma (Rept. 470),
7475.
Muskogee (Creek) Nation of Indians (Rept. 467), 7470.
Committee on Woman Suffrage:
Woman suffrage (Rept. 408), 7470.

V otes of.

Sec Y e a -a x d -N a y V o t e s .

OWEN., W., O,, relief (see bill H. R. 15025).
OWEN, WILLIAM 0.', restore to active list of Army (see bill S. 5525*).
OWEN BY, JOHN, pension (see bill 17. R. 11877).
OWENS, ALVIN M., Increase pension (see bill II. U. 13278).
OWENS, B ill DUET A., pension (see bill H. R. 10801).
OWENS, CHARLES T., pension (see bills H. R. 15423, 16294*).
OWENS, ELLEN, increase pension (sec bill H. R. 13109*).
O W E N S , GRANOR, remove charge of desertion (see bill H. R. 13662),
OWENS, II. C„ relief (see bill H. It. 10722).




The * indicates hills acted upon.

B ills and jo in t resolu tion s in trod u ced by

Army and Navy: authorizing officers and enlisted men to wear

Dickson, Term.": to erect public building at (see bill EL It. 15464),
0444.
,
,
,, .
Franklin Tenn. : for memorial arch over Columbia turnpike at (seo
bill II. R. 15011). 0648.
Fuqua, Frank: to increase pension (see bill H. R. 11083), 1262.
Harris, John: for relief of estate (see bill H. It. 10045), 420.
Judson. Mary A. : to increase pension (see bill H. It. 17274),
Kephart, Fountain P. : to increase pension (seo bill IT. R. 12845),
27-88.
Linzy, Leroy B. : to increase pension (see bill H. R. 0874), 232.
McKissack, '.Tames T. : for relief of estate (see bill II. It. 14079)
4125.
I
Marine Corps : to make tenure of office four years for major
general commandant of (see bill II. It. 10081), 504.
Medals of honor: to secure uniformity in -aw ard of (see bill
II. It. 17311), 106tS.
N avy: to increase efficiency of (see bill H. R. 12671 ), 2029.
----- 1— to create grades of admiral and vice admiral in (see bill
H. R. 14319), 4499.
---------- -to amend act to promote administration of justice in (see
bili tl. R. 14320). 4499.
Navy officers: to allow two officers to become instructors at
Naval War College of Brazil (see II. .1. lies. $04), 10139.
New Orleans (La.) naval station: to make available certain un­
expended balances heretofore appropriated fo r e s e e H. J. Res.
253), 7213.
\
Powers, T. W. : for relief of estate (see bill H. R. 11082), 1262.
San Francisco. Cal. : to contract for use by Government of dry
docks at Hunters Point (see bill H. It. 11333), K 53.
Stewart, A lleth a : to increase pension (see bill H. It. 15898),
Tatum," Thomas B. : to pension (see bill II. R. 14145), 4180.
Waske.v, Adeline: to increase pension (see bill H. It. 13473),
Williams, Fredonia : to increase pension (see bill H. %. 14027),
40f)0.
Winstead, H. W. : for relief (see bill H. R. 13901), 40(|P.
Wolff. Bidtley C. : to increase pension (see bill H. It. *.17803),
\

12001

Wrfght, John V. : for relief of estate (see bill II. R. 14303m 4467.

M o tion s and re so lu tio n s offered bp

Adjourn: to, 6858, 0878,
7646. 10580.
Citizens and individuals,
0503. 0651, 7003, 10512,
Societies and associations,

>171, 7232, >286, >40o, 7o24, J599,

P etitio n s and papers p resen ted bp. from

Sec “ History of Bills.”

1185. 1202. 4007, 4942, 5200, 59%2,
11074, 12002.
4942, 0447, 8419.




HETCH HETCHY BILL (H. R. 7207) C ^ kkssional R ecord , P M
B ound E dition , Dec. 6, 1913, pages dso-oso.

m„

ent

This bill granted to the city and county of San Francisco and such other municj.
nalhies as might under the terms of the bill, join with the city and county of San
F ranS co the right to construct a dam in the Hetch Hetchy Valley and to overflow
a portion of the valley (part of a National park) by converting it into a reservoir;
to maintain suitable works for the waters collected within the park and for the hand­
ling and control of the same, and the right to use as supplemental to the mam purpose
f it f> „ n + , . n v nower that might be generated as a result of the works so constructed.
(The passage of the bill was favored by Secretary Lane of the Department of the
I n S o r Pt J Mr Gifford Pinchot, by M r/Oraves, Chief Forester of Amenca, and by
other prominent conservationists.)
The result was announced— yeas 43, nays 25, as follows.
YEAS—43.
Pittman, Nev.
Pomerene, Ohio.
Ransdell, La.
Reed, Mo.
Robinson, Ark.
Sha.froth, Colo.
Sherman, 111.
Shields, Tenn.
Simmons, N. C.
Smith, Ariz.
Smith, Ga.

Ashurst, Ariz.
Bacon, Ga.
Brandegee, Conn.
Bryan, Fla.
Fletcher, Fla.
Gore, Okla.
Hughes, N. J.
James, Ky.
Johnson, Ale.
La Follette, Wis.
Lewis, 111.

Lippitt, R. L
McLean, Conn.
Martin, Va.
Myers, Mont.
Nelson, Minn.
Newlands, Nev.
Norris, Neb.
O'Gorman, N Y .
Overman, N. C.
Owen, Okla.
Perkins, Cal.

Borah, Idaho
Brady, Idaho
Bristow, Kans.
Burton, Ohio
Clapp, Minn.
Clark, Wyo.
Colt, R. I.

NAYS— 25.
McCumber, N. D
Dillingham, Vt.
Page, Vt.
Gallinger, N. H.
P o in d exter , Wash.
Gronna, N. D.
Root, N. Y.
Jones, Wash.
Sheppard, Tex.
Kenyon, Iowa.
Shively, Ind.
Kern, Ind.
Smoot, Utah.
Lane, Ore.

Smith, Md.
Stephenson, Wis.
Stone, Mo.
Swanson, Va.
Thomas, Colo.
Thompson, Kans.
Thornton, La.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
Williams, Miss.

Townsend, Mich.
Warren, Wyo.
Weeks, Mass.
Works, Cal.

NOT VOTING— 27.
Saulsbury, Del.
Crawford,
S. D.
Hollis,. N . II.
Bankhead, Ala.
— --------- , ------Smith, Mich.
Bradley, Ky.
Culberson, Tex.
Jackson, Md.
Smith, S. C.
Burleigh, Me.
Cummins, Iowa
Lea, J enn.
Sterling, S. D.
Catron, N. Mex.
du Pont, Del.
Lodge, Mass.
Sutherland, Utah
Chamberlain, Ore.
Fall, N. Mex.
Martine, N. J.
Tillman, S. C.
Chilton, W. Va.
Goff, W. Va.
Oliver, Pa.
Clarke, Ark.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Penrose, Pa.
So the bill was passed.
Pairs— Senator Cummins, against, with Senator Chamberlain tor the passage of the
bill.
Senator Hollis, paired. If at liberty to vote, would vote N a y .
Senator Lodge, paired against the bill.
Senator Martine, paired. If at liberty to vote, would vote N a y .
Senator Sterling, paired, If at liberty to vote, would vote N a y .
Senator Sutherland, paired. If at liberty to vote, would vote N a y .
Senator Catron, against, with Senator Hitchcock in favor of the passage of the
bilk
.
.
. , _
There was a roll-call on one amendment to the bill. It is given in the Congressional
Record for December 6, 1913. As long as the supply lasts, copies of this Record may
be obtained from the Superintendent of Documents, Government Printing Office,
Washington, D. C., for 14 cents.
BANKING AND CURRENCY ACT (H. R. 7837). C ongressional R ecord,
P ermanent B ound E d itio n , Dec. 19, 1913, page 1230.
The roll-call here given was on the passage of the bill.
As it finally became law, the salient features of the bill were as follows:
Authorized at least eight regional reserve associations, each with a regional bank.
Constituted the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Agriculture, and the
Comptroller of the Currency the organization commission to fix the boundaries of
districts and reserve cities.
Entire system under the control of the Federal reserve board of seven members
the Secretary of the Treasury and the Comptroller of the Currency, ex officio, and
five others appointed by the President,




2

National Banks must signify their intention to join the association within sixty
days, or they cannot act as reserve agents thereafter. They must enter within a
year or forfeit their charters.
State banks may join by meeting requirements for Federal inspection.
Total capital stock of the regional reserve association six per cent of the capital
and surplus of all member banks.
Stock open to the national banks first and then to the public.
Dividends on the regional bank stock, 6 per cent.
Provides after two years for the gradual retirement of national bank-notes and
refunding of 2 per cent Government bonds. Substitution of 3 per cent gold without
circulation privileges, to run twenty years, or 3 per cent Treasury gold notes for
one year, renewable annually for thirty years.
Authorizes the Government through the Federal reserve banks to issue notes
against collateral approval by the Federal reserve board redeemable at the Treasury
in gold and at regional banks in gold or lawful money at election of banks.
Requires gold reserves of 40 per cent in the Treasury Department against outstand­
ing reserve notes. Provides tax against depletion.
Even’ regional reserve bank managed by nine directors, three chosen by the
Federal reserve board, six elected by member banks, but three of whom shall not be
bankers.
The result was announced—yeas, 54, nays 34, as follows:
Ashurst, Ariz.
Bacon, Ga.
Bankhead, Ala.
Bryan, Fla.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Chilton, W. Ya.
Clarke, Ark.
Crawford, S. D.
Fletcher, Fla.
Gore, Okla.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Hollis, N. H.
Hughes, N. J.
James, Ky.

YEAS— 54.
Perkins, Cal.
Johnson, Me.
Pittman, Nev.
Jones, Wash.
P oindexter , Wash.
Kern, Ind.
Pomerene, Ohio.
Lane, Ore.
Ransdell, La.
Lea, Tenn.
Reed, Mo.
Lewis, 111.
Robinson, Ark.
Martin, Va. *
Saulsbury, Del.
Marline, N. J.
Shafroth, Colo.
Myers, Mont.
Sheppard, Tex.
Newlands, Nev.
Shields, Tenn.
Norris, Neb.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Shively, Ind.
Simmons, N. C.
Overman, N. C.
Smith, Ariz.
Owen, Okla.

Smith, Ga.
Smith, Md.
Smith, S. C.
Sterling, S. D.
Swanson, Va.
Thomas, Colo.
Thompson, Kans.
Tillman, S. C.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
Weeks, Mass.
Williams, Miss.

NAYS—34.
Smith, Mich.
Lippitt, R. I.
Cummins, Iowa
Smoot, Utah
McCumber, N. D.
Dillingham, Vt.
Stephenson, Wis.
McLean, Conn.
du Pont, Del.
Sutherland, Utah
Nelson, Minn.
Gallinger, N. H.
Townsend, Mich.
Oliver, Pa.
Goff, W. Va.
Warren, Wyo.
Page, Vt.
Gronna, N. D.
Works, Cal.
Penrose, Pa.
Jackson, Md.
Root, N. Y.
Kenyon, Iowa.
Sherman, 111.
La Follette, Wis.
NOT VOTING—7.
Burleigh, Me.
Culberson, Tex.
Lodge, Mass.
Thornton, La.
Clark, Wyo.
Fall, N. Mex.
Stone, Mo.
So the bill was passed.
Pairs—Senator Clark, of Wyoming, paired. If at liberty to vote, would vote N a y .
Senator Culberson, paired. If at liberty to vote, would vote Y e a .
Senator Burleigh, if present, would have voted N a y .
Senator Stone, if present, would have voted Y e a .
Senator Thornton, if present, would have voted Y e a .
Senator Lodge, if present, would have voted N a y .
There were numerous amendments offered to this bill. The roll-cjxlls on ^these
amendments are given in the Congressional Record for December 15, 16, 17, 18,
and 19. These numbers can be bought, as long as the supply lasts, from the Super­
intendent of Documents, Government Printing Office, Washington, D. G., lor eleven,
sixteen, ten, twelve, and eleven cents, respectively.
Borah, Idaho
Bradley, Ky.
Brady, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Burton, Ohio
Catron, N. Mex.
Clapp, Minn.
Colt, R. I.

ALASKAN RAILROAD BILL (Senate 48). C ongressional R ecord, P erma­
nent B ound E dition , Jan. 24, 1914, page 2250.
This was a bill to authorize the construction of not more than a thousand miles
of railroad in Alaska, to be owned and operated by the Government, the cost of the
work authorized by this bill not to exceed $35,000,000.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of the passage, of the bill.
A N ay vote was a vote against the passage of the bill.




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The result was announced—yeas 46, nays 16, as follows:
YEAS—46.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Newlandst, Nev.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Norris, Neb.
Hollis, N. H.
Borah, Idaho
Perkins, Cal.
James, Ky.
Brady, Idaho
Pittman, Nev.
Johnson, Me.
Bristow, Kans.
P oindexter , Wash.
Jones, Wash.
Bryan, Fla.
Pomerene, Ohio
Kenyon, Iowa
Chamberlain, Ore.
Ransdell, La.
Kern, Ind.
Chilton, W. Va.
Reed, Mo.
Lane, Ore.
Colt, R. I.
Robinson, Ark.
Lea, Tenn.
Cummins, Iowa
Saulsbury, Del.
McLean, Conn.
Fall, N. Mex
Shafroth, Colo.
Marline, N. J.
Gore, Okla.
Sheppard, Tex.
Myers, Mont.
Gronna, N. D.

Simmons, N. C.
Smith, Ariz.
Smith, Md.
Smoot, Utah.
Sterling, S. D.
Stone, Mo.
Thompson, Kans.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
Works, Cal.

NAYS— 16.
Stephenson, Wis.
Root, N. Y.
Gallinger, N. H.
Sutherland, Utah
Shields, Tenn.
Lodge, Mass.
Weeks, Mass.
McCumber, N. D. Smith, Ga.
Williams, Miss.
Smith, Mich.
Nelson, Minn.
NOT VOTING—33.
Swanson, Va.
du Pont, Del.
O'Gorman, N. Y.
Bankhead, Ala.
Thomas, Colo.
Fletcher, Fla.
Oliver, Pa.
Brandegee, Conn.
Thornton, La.
Goff, W. Va.
Overman, N. C.
Burleigh, Me.
Tillman, S. C.
Hughes, N. J.
Owen, Okla.
Burton, Ohio
Townsend, Mich.
Jackson, Md.
Page, Vt.
Catron, N. Mex.
Warren, Wyo.
La Follette, Wis.
Penrose, Pa.
Clapp, Minn.
Lewis, 111.
Sherman, 111.
Clarke, Ark.
Lippitt, R. I.
Shively, Ind.
Crawford, S. D.
Martin, Va.
Smith, S. C.
Culberson, Tex
So the bill was passed.
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Pairs— Senator Brandegee against the bill, with Senator Martin of Virginia, for.
Senator Burton against the bill, with Senator Thomas, of Colorado, in favor.
Senator du Pont against the bill, with Senator Culberson m favor.
Senator Owen was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Townsend for the bill, with Senator Bankhead against.
Senator Thornton against the bill, with Senator Crawford m favor.
According to information printed on pages 2334-2334, the following Senators were
absent because of illness and would have voted in favor of the bill had they been
present: Tillman, La Follette.
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Senator Clapp is recorded as unavoidably absent. If present, he would have voted
in favor of the bill.
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There were various roll-calls on amendments. These are given in the Congressional
Record for January 24, 1914. As long as the supply lasts, this issue can be bought
from the Superintendent of Documents, Government Printing Office, Y\ashmgton,
D. C., for eleven cents.

Bacon, Ga.
Bradley, Ky.
Clark, Wyo.
Dillingham, Vt.

UNITED STATES STEEL CORPORATION
sional

(Senate Res. 241). C ongres­
R ecord, P ermanent B ound E dition , Feb. 2, 1914, page 2730.

The resolution read:
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“ Resolved That the Interstate Commerce Commission is hereby directed to con­
duct an examination and inquiry for the purpose of ascertaining whether the United
States Steel Corporation or any of its subsidiaries have been guilty of giving or re­
ceiving any unlawful rebates, offsets, or preferences, especially within the last six
Years- and if said commission finds that such unlawful rebates, offsets, or preferences
have been given or received, then the commission is directed to report the dates and
amounts thereof to the Senate for its information.
The result was announced— yeas 41, nays 11, as follows:
YEAS—41.
P oindexter , Wash. Sterling, S. DJ
James, Ky.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Thompson, Kans.
Ransdell, La.
Jones, Wash.
Borah, Idaho
Tillman, S. C.
Robinson, Ark.
Kenyon, Iowa
Brady, Idaho
Townsend, Mich.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lane, Ore.
Bristow, Kans.
Sheppard,
Tex.
Vardaman, Miss.
Lee, Md.
Bryan, Fla.
Walsh, Mont.
Shields, Tenn.
Marline, N. J.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Williams, Miss.
Shively, Ind.
Myers, Mont.
Chilton, W. Va.
Works, Cal.
Simmons, N. C.
Newlands, Nev.
Clapp, Minn.
Smith, Ariz.
Norris, Neb.
Gronna, N. D.
Smith, Ga.
Overman, N. C.
Hollis, N. H.
Smith, S. C.
Perkins, Cal.
Hughes, N. J.




Burleigh, Me.
Cummins, Iowa
Dillingham, Vt.

Goff, W. Ya.
Lodg.e, Mass.
Page, Vt.

NAYS— 11.
Pomerene, Ohio
Root, N. Y.
Saulsbury, Del.

Stephenson, Wis.
Sutherland, Utah.

NOT VOTING—43.
Sherman, 111.
Lippitt, R. I.
du Pont, Del.
Smith, Md.
McCumber, N. D.
Fall, N. Mex.
McLean, Conn.
Smith, Mich.
Fletcher, Fla.
Smoot, Utah
Martin, Va.
Gallinger, N. H.
Stone, Mo.
Nelson, Minn.
Gore, Okla.
Swanson, Va.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Thomas, Colo.
Johnson, Me.
Oliver, Pa.
Thornton, La.
Kern, Ind.
Owen, Okla.
Warren. Wyo.
La Follette, Wis.
Penrose, Pa.
Weeks, Mass.
Lea, Tenn.
Pittman, Nev.
Lewis, 111.
Reed, Mo.
So the resolution as amended was agreed to.
Senator du Pont announced a pair, but stated he would vote N ay if at liberty to do so.
Senator Fletcher announced a pair. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
There were several roll-calls on amendments to this resolution. They are given in
the Congressional Record for February 2, 1914. As long as the supply lasts, copies
of this Record may be bought from the Superintendent of Documents, Government
Printing Office, Washington, D. €., for 13 cents.
Bacon, Ga.
Bankhead, Ala.
Bradley, Ky.
Brandegee, Conn.
Burton, Ohio
Catron, N. Mex.
Clark, Wyo.
Clarke, Ark.
Colt, R. I.
Crawford, S. D.
Culberson, Tex.

POST OFFICE APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 11338). C ongressional
R ecord, Permanent B ound E dition , Feb. 27, 1914, page 4011.
The question on which this vote was taken was whether the amendment of the
Senate Committee on Post Offices and Post Roads to the Post Office Appropriation
Bill was in order. The amendment read:
“ There shall be no change in existing weight limits, rates of postage, or zones for
fourth-class mail matter until authorized by law.”
The passage of this amendment would have taken it out of the power of the Post­
master General to extend the parcel post any further until a law could be gotten
through Congress.
The result was announced—yeas 24, nays 33, as follows:
Bankhead, Ala.
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Bryan, Fla
Catron, N. Mex.
Chamberlain, Ore.

YEAS—24.
Clark, Wyo.
McCumber, N. D.
Nelson, Minn.
Cummins, Iowa
Dillingham, Vt.
Oliver, Pa.
Gallinger, N. H.
Page, Vt.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Perkins, Cal.
Lodge, Mass.
Ransdell, La.

Ashurst, Ariz.
Borah, Idaho
Bradley, Ky.
Brady, Idaho
Clapp, Mipn.
Gronna, N. D.
Hollis, N. H.
Hughes, N. J.
James, Ky.

NAYS—33.
P oindexter , Wash.
Jones, Wash.
Reed, Mo.
Kern, Ind.
La Follette, Wis.
Robinson, Ark.
Saulsbury, Del.
Lane, Ore.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lee, Md.
Sheppard, Tex.
Martin, Va.
Simmons, N. C.
Marline, N. J.
Smith, Md.
Norris, Neb.
Sterling, S. D.
Overman, N. C.

NOT VOTING—37.
O'Gorman, N. Y.
Goff,
W.
Va.
Burleigh, Me.
Owen, Okla.
Gore, Okla.
Burton, Ohio
Penrose, Pa.
Johnson, Me.
Chilton, W. Va.
Pittman, Nev.
Kenyon, Iowa
Clarke, Ark.
Pomerene, Ohio
Lea, Tenn.
Colt, R. I.
Root, N. Y.
Lewis, 111.
Crawford, S. D.
Shively, Ind.
Culberson, Tex.
Lippitt, R. I.
Smith, Ariz.
du Pont, Del.
McLean, Conn.
Fall, N. Mex.
Smith, Ga.
Myers, Mont.
Fletcher, Fla.
Smith, Mich.
Newlands, Nev.
So the Senate decided the amendment to be not in order.
Senator Owen, if present, would have voted N a y .




Sherman, 111.
Shields, Tenn.
Smoot, Utah.
Stephenson, Wis.
Sutherland, Utah
Weeks, Mass.
Swanson, Va.
Thompson, Okla.
Tillman, S. C.
Townsend, Mich.
Vardaman, Miss.
Works, Cal.

Smith, S. C.
Stone, Mo.
Thomas, Colo.
Thornton, La.
Walsh, Mont.
Warren, Wyo.
Williams, Miss.

POST OFFICE APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 11338). C ongressional
R ecord, P ermanent B ound E dition , Feb. 27, 1914, page 4017.
The roll-call here given was on an amendment offeied by Senator Bankhead of
A1^ S ^ n o^ rtion oF th eSsum<so above appropriated shall be spent by the Postmaster
General for carrying fourth class mail matter of a greater weight than 50 pounds in
any one package without authority therefor first obtained from the Congress of the
U Ttheedrctsultwas announced-yeas 27, nays 28, as follows:
YEAS- -27.
Simmons, N. C.
McCumber, N. D.
Dillingham, Vt.
Bankhead, Ala.
Smoot, Utah
Nelson, Minn.
Gallinger, N. H.
Brady, Idaho
Stephenson, Wis.
Oliver, Pa.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Bristow, Kans.
Sterling, S. D.
Page, Vt.
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Hollis, N. H.
Bryan, Fla.
Sutherland, Utah
Perkins, Cal.
Hughes, N. J.
Catron, N. Mex.
Weeks, Mass.
Ransdell, La.
Lippitt, R. IClark, Wyo.
Sherlnan, 111.
Lodge, Mass.
Cummins, Iowa
NAYS—28.
Smith, Md.
La Toilette, Wis.
Pomerene. Ohio
Ashurst, Ariz.
Swanson, Va.
Lane, Ore..
Reed, Mo.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Thompson, Kans.
Lee, Md.
Robinson, Ark
Clapp, Minn.
Tillman, S. C.
Marline, N. J.
Saulsbury, Del.
Gronna, N. D.
Townsend, Mich.
Norris, Neb.
Shafroth, Colo.
James, Ky.
Vardaman, Miss.
Overman, N. C.
Sheppard, le x .
Jones, Wash.
Works, Cal.
P oindexter , Wash. Shively, Ind.
Kern, Ind.
NOT VOTING—39.
Marlin, A a.
Smith, Ga.
du
Pont,
Del.
Borah, Idaho
Fall N. Mex.
Myers, Mont.
Smith, Mich.
Bradley, Ky.
Fletcher, Fla.
Newlands, Nev.
Smith, S C.
Brandegee, Conn.
Goff W. Va.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Stone, Mo.
Burleigh, Me.
Gore Okla.
Owen, Okla.
Thomas, Colo.
Burton, Ohio
Johnson, Me.
Penrose, Pa.
I hornton. La.
Chilton, W. Va.
Kenyon, Iowa
Pittman, Nev.
Walsh, Mont.
Clarke, Ark.
Lea Tenn.
Root, N. Y.
Warren, Wyo.
Colt, R. I.
Lewis, 111.
Shields, Tenn.
Williams, Miss.
Crawford, S. D.
McLean, Conn.
Smith, Ariz.
Culberson, Tex.
So Air. Bankhead’s amendment was rejected.
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Senator Brandegee was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted 1 e a .
Senator Root was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
POST OFFICE APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 11338). C ongressional
R ecord, P ermanent B ound E dition , Feb. 27, 1914, page 4023.
The roll-call here given was on the following amendment offered by Senator Bankhead of Alabama:
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A n d , p r o v i d e d further, That no portion of the sum so above appropriated shall be
spent bv the Postmaster General for carrying fourth-class mail matter of greater
weight than 50 pounds in any one package without authority therefor first obtained
from the Congress.
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Mr B ankhead Air. President, a word of explanation. I he purpose of this
amendment is simply to limit the weight of parcel-post matter carried by the starroute service to 50 pounds.
The result was announced— yeas 18, nays 31, as follows:
VF.AS— 18.

Bankhead, Ala.
Bristow, Kans.
Bryan, Fla.
Catron, N. Alex.
Dillingham, Vt.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Borah, Idaho
Brady, Idaho
Chamberlain, Ore.
Clark, Wyo.
Cummins, Iowa
Gronna, N. D.
James, Ky.




Gallinger, N. II.
Overman, N. C.
Lodge, Alass.
Perkins, Cal.
McCumber, N. D. Ransdell, La.
Nelson, Minn.
Simmons, N. C.
Oliver, Pa.
Smoot, Utah
NAYS—31.
P oindexter , Wash.
Jones, Wash.
Pomerene, Ohio
Kern, Ind.
Reed, Mo.
La Follette, Wis.
Robinson, Ark.
Lane, Ore.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lee, Md.
Sheppard, Tex.
Marline, N. J.
Sherman, 111.
Norris, Neb.
Shively, Ind.
Page, Vt.
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Stephenson, Wis.
Sutherland, Utah
Weeks, Mass.

Smith, Ariz.
Smith, Md.
Swanson, Va.
Thompson, Kans.
Tillman, S. C.
Townsend, Mich.
Vdrdaman, Miss.

NOT VOTING— 45.
Bradley, Ky.
Fletcher, Fla.
Martin, Va.
Brandegee, Conn.
Goff, W. Va.
Myers, Mont.
Burleigh, Me.
Gorey Okla.
Newlands, Nev.
Burton, Ohio
Hitchcock, Neb.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Chilton, W. Va.
Hollis, N. H.
Owen, Okla.
Clapp, Minn.
Hughes, N. J.
Penrose, Pa.
Clarke, Ark.
Johnson, Me.
Pittman, Nev.
Colt, R. I.
Kenyon, Iowa
Root, N. Y.
Crawford, S. D.
Lea, Tenn.
Saulsbury, Del.
Culberson, Tex.
Lewis, 111.
Shields, Tenn,
du Pont, Del.
Lippitt, R. I.
Smith, Ga.
Fall, N. Mex.
McLean, Conn.
Smith, Mich.
Senator Lippitt was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would
So Mr. Bankhead’s amendment was rejected.

Smith, S. C.
Sterling, S. D.
Stone, Mo.
Thomas, Colo.
Thornton, La.
Walsh, Mont.
Warren, Wyo.
Williams, Miss.
Works, Cal.

have voted Y

ea .

POST OFFICE APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 11338). C ongressional
R ecord , P ermanent B ound E dition , Feb. 28, 1914, page 4092.
The roll-call here given was on an amendment offered by Senator Cummins of Iowa
and reading as follows:
And provided further, That no part of this appropriation shall be expended in
carrying packages of more than 50 pounds in weight unless the rates therefor shall
be just, fair, and reasonable, shall be the cost of the service as nearly as can be ascer­
tained, and shall not unjustly discriminate either between persons or communities,
and the Interstate Commerce Commission shall specifically so find before it approves
the same.
The result was announced—yoas, 20, nays 29, as follows:
Bankhead, Ala.
Borah, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Bryan, Fla.

YEAS— 20.
Clark, Wyo.
Jones, Wash.
McCumber, N. D,
Cummins, Iowa
Dillingham, Vt.
Page, Vt.
Gallinger, N. H.
Perkins, Cal.
Ransdell, La.
Hughes, N. J.

Ashurst, Ariz.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Clapp, Minn.
Gore, Okla
James, Ky.
Kern, Ind.
La Follette, Wis.
Lane, Ore.

NAYS— 29.
Pomerene, Ohio
Lee, Md.
Reed, Mo.
Marline, N. J.
Robinson, Ark.
Myers, Mont.
Shafroth, Colo.
Newlands, Nev.
Sheppard, Tex.
Norris, Neb.
, Shively, Ind.
Overman, N. C.
Simmons, N. C.
Pittman, Nev
P oind exter , Wash. Smith, Md.

NOT VOTING— 45.
Martin, Va.
Fletcher, Fla.
Bradley, Ky.
Nelson, Minn.
Goff, W. Va.
Brady, Idaho
O’Gorman, N. Y
Gronna, N. D.
Burleigh, Me.
Oliver, Pa.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Burton, Ohio
Owen, Okla.
Hollis, N. H.
Catron, N. Mex.
Penrose, Pa.
Johnson, Me.
Chilton, W. Va.
Root, N. Y.
Kenyon, Iowa
. Clarke, Ark.
Saulsbury,
Del.
Lea, Tenn.
Colt, R. I.
Shields, Tenn.
Lewis, 111.
Crawford, S. D.
Smith, Ariz.
Lippitt, R. I.
Culberson, Tex.
Smith, Ga.
Lodge, Mass.
du Pont, Del.
Smith, Mich,
McLean, Conn,
Fall, N. Mex.
So Mr. C ummins ’ s amendment was rejected.




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Sherman, 111.
Smoot, Utah
Stephenson, Wis.
Sterling, S. D.
Weeks, Mass.
Swanson, Va.
Tillman, S. C.
Townsend, Mich.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.

Smith, S. C.
Stone, Mo.
Sutherland, Utah
Thomas, Colo.
Thompson, Kans.
Thornton, La.
Warren, Wyo.
Williams, Miss.
Works. Cal.

WOMAN SUFFRAGE (Senate Joint Resolution No. 1 ). C ongressional R ecord,
P ermanent B ound E dition , March 19, 1914, page 5108.
This was a resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United
States extending the right of suffrage to women.
The result was announced—yeas 35, nays 34, as follows.
YEAS— 35.
Smoot, Utah.
Newlands, Nev.
Hollis, N. H.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Stephenson, Wis.
Norris, Neb.
Hughes, N. J.
Brady, Idaho
Sterling, S. D.
Owen, Okla.
Jones, Wash.
Bristow, Kans.
Sutherland, Utah
Perkins, Cal.
Kenyon, Iowa
Burton, Ohio
P oin d exter , Wash. Thomas, Colo.
La Follette, W
Chamberlain, Ore.
Thompson, Kans.
Ransdell, La.
Lane, Ore.
Clapp, Minn.
Townsend, Mich.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lea, Tenn.
Clark, Wyo.
Works, Cal.
Sheppard, Tex.
Myers, Mont.
Gallinger, N. H.
Sherman, 111. •
Nelson, Minn.
Gronna, N. D.
NAYS— 34.
Swanson, Va.
Overman, N. C.
James, Ky.
Thornton, La.
Page, Vt.
Johnson, Me.
Tillman, S. C.
Pittman, Nev.
Lee, Md.
Vardaman, Miss.
Pomerene, Ohio
Lodge, Mass.
Weeks, Mass.
McCumber, N. D Reed, Mo.
West, Ga.
Shields, Tenn.
McLean, Conn.
Williams, Miss.
Smith, Ga.
Martin, Va.
Smith, Md.
Marline, N. J.
Smith, S. C.
Oliver, Pa.
NOT VOTING— 26.
Smith, Ariz.
Fall, N. Mex.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Burleigh, Me.
Smith, Mich.
Fletcher, Fla.
Penrose, Pa.
Chilton, W. Va.
Stone, Mo.
Goff, W. Va.
Robinson, Ark.
Clarke, Ark.
Walsh, Mont.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Root, N. V .
Colt, R. I.
Warren, Wyo.
Kern, Ind.
Saulsbury, Del.
Crawford, S. D
Lewis, 111.
Shively, Ind.
Culberson, Tex.
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Lippitt, R. I.
Simmons, N. C.
,.......... , Iowa
Cummins,
The V ice -P resident . The joint resolution not having received the constitutional
two-thirds, it is rejected.
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Senator Crawford was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Cummins was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Fall was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Lippitt was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Penrose was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Root was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Saulsbury was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Smith, of Arizona, was absent. If present, he would have voted x e a .
Senator Smith, of Michigan, was absent, if present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Walsh was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Warren was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Chilton was paired. If at liberty to vote, would have voted Y ea .
There were roll-calls on two amendments to this resolution. They are both given
in the Congressional Record for March 19, 1914. As long as the supply lasts, copies
of this may be obtained from the Superintendent, of Documents, Government Printing
Office, Washington, D. C., for nine cents.

Bankhead, Ala.
Borah, Idaho
Bradley, Ky.
Brandegee, Conn.
Bryan, Fla.
Catron, N. Mex.
Dillingham, Vt.
du Pont, Del.
Gore, Okla.

EXECUTIVE SESSIONS IN THE SENATE (Senate Resolution 327). C ongressional R ecord , P ermanent B ound E dition , Apr. 7, 1914, page 6327.
The roll-call here given was to lay on the table the following resolution offered by
Senator Kenyon:
Resolved, That it is the judgment of the Senate that all executive sessions shall
hereafter be open to the public, except when treaties are considered or when the
Senate, by unanimous consent, orders otherwise; and the Committee on Rules is
directed to prepare such amendments to the present rules, or to prepare new rules
or both, as may be necessary to carry out the terms of this resolution, and present
the same to the Senate for action thereon.




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The result was announced—-years 31, nays 30, as follows:
YEAS—31.
Pomerene, Ohio
Brandegee, Conn.
Johnson, Me.
Ransdell, La.
Lee, Md.
Bryan, Fla.
Robinson, Ark.
Catron, N. Mex.
Lippitt, R. I.
Saulsbury, Del.
Clark, Wyo.
Lodge, Mass.
McCumber, N. D. Shields, Tenn.
du Pont, Del.
Shively, Ind.
Myers, Mont.
Gallinger, N. H.
Simmons, N. C.
Oliver, Pa.
Gore, Okla.
Smith, Ga.
Overman, N. C.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Borah, Idaho
Brady, Idaho
Bristow, Kans.
Burton, Ohio
Chamberlain, Ore.
Clapp, Minn.
Crawford, S. D.

NAYS— 30.
Nelson, Minn.
Cummins, Iowa
Norris, Neb.
Fall, N. Mex.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Gronna, N. D.
Page. Vt.
Hollis, N. H.
Perkins, Cal.
Jones, Wash.
P oind exter , Wash.
Kenyon, Iowa
Shafroth. Colo.
Lane, Ore.
Sheppard, Tex.
Martine, N. J.

Swanson, Va.
Thornton, La.
Tillman, S. C.
Warren, Wyo.
Weeks, Mass.
West, Ga.
Williams, Miss.

Sherman, 111.
Smith, Mich.
Thompson, Kans.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
Works, Cal.

NOT VOTING— 34.
Smoot, Utah.
Newlands, Nev.
Goff, W. Va.
Bankhead, Ala.
Stephenson, Wis.
Owen, Okla.
Hughes, N. J.
Bradley, Ky.
Sterling, S. D.
Penrose, Pa.
James, Ky.
Burleigh, Me.
Stone, Mo.
Pittman, Nev.
Kern, Ind.
Chilton, W. Va.
Sutherland, Utah
Reed, Mo.
La Follette, Wis.
Clarke, Ark.
Thomas, Colo.
Root, N. Y.
Lea, Tenn.
Colt, R. I.
Townsend, Mich.
Smith, Ariz.
Lewis, 111.
Culberson, Tex.
Smith, Md.
McLean, Conn.
Dillingham, Vt.
Smith, S. C.
Martin, Va.
Fletcher, Fla.
So Mr. Kenyon’s resolution was laid on the table.
Senator La Follette was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Thomas was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted N a y .
Senator James was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
AFFAIRS IN MEXICO (H. J. Res. 251). C ongressional R ecord, P ermanent
B ound E dition , Apr. 21, 1914, page 7014.
The roll-call here given on passing the resolution that the President is justified in
the employment of armed forces of the United States to enforce his demands oi
unequivocal amends for certain affronts and indignities committed against the
United States. The resolution further stated that the United States specifically dis­
claims any hostility to the Mexican people or any purpose to make war upon Mexico.
The result was announced—yeas 72, nays 13, as follows:
Ashurst, Ariz.
Bankhead, Ala.
Borah, Idaho
Bradley, Ky.
Brady, Idaho
Bryan, Fla.
Burleigh, Me.
Catron, N. Mex.
Chilton, W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Clark, Wyo.
Clarke, Ark.
Colt, R. I.
Crawford, S. D.
Cummins, Iowa
Fall, N. Mex.
Fletcher, Fla.
Goff, W. Va.

YEAS—72.
Newlands, Nev.
Gore, Okla.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Overman, N. C.
Hollis, N. H.
Owen, Okla.
Hughes, N. J.
Page, Vt.
James, Ky.
Penrose, Pa.
Johnson, Me.
Perkins, Cal.
Jones, Wash.
Pittman, Nev.
Kenyon, Iowa
P oind exter , Wash.
Kern, Ind.
Pomerene,
Ohio
Lane, Ore.
Ransdell, La.
Lea, Tenn.
Reed, Mo.
Lee, Md.
Robinson, Ark.
Lewis, 111.
Saulsbury,
Del.
McCumber, N. D.
Shafroth, Colo.
McLean, Conn.
Sheppard, Tex.
Martin, Va.
Sherman, 111.
Martine, N. J.
Shields, Tenn.
Nelson, Minn.

Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Dillingham, Vt
Gallinger, N. H.

NAYS— 13.
Oliver, Pa.
La Follette, Wis.
Root, N. Y.
Lippitt, R. I.
Smoot, Utah
Lodge, Mass.
Weeks, Mass.
Norris, Neb.




9

Shively, Ind.
Simmons, N. C.
Smith, Ga.
Smith, Md.
Smith, Mich.
Smith, S. C.
Sterling, S. D.
Sutherland, Utah
Swanson, Va.
Thomas, Colo.
Thompson, Kans.
Thornton, La.
Townsend. Mich.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
Warren, Wyo.
West, Ga.
Williams, Miss.
Works, Cal.

NOT VOTING— 10.
Burton, Ohio
du Pont, Del.
Smith, Ariz.
Tillman, S. C.
Chamberlain, Ore. Gronna, N. D.
Stephenson, Wis.
Culberson, Tex.
Myers, Mont.
Stone, Mo.
So the joint resolution was passed.
Senator Culberson was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Myers was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Tillman was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Gronna was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Smith, of Arizona, was absent. It was stated that if present he would, in
all probability, vote Y e a .
.
There were several amendments to this resolution.
I he roll-calls on these are
given in the Congressional Record for April 21, 1914. As long as the supply lasts
copies of this can be bought from the Superintendent of Documents, Government
Printing Office, Washington, D. C., for eleven c e n ts .___________________
FREE SEEDS.

AGRICULTURE APPROPRIATION

BILL

(H.

R.

13679).

C ongressional R ecord , P ermanent B ound E dition , May 9,1914, page 8348.

The roll-call here given was on striking out of the Agriculture Appropriation bill
the appropriation for the free distribution of seeds in Congressional districts.
A Y ea vote was a vote against free seeds.
A N ay vote was a vote in favor.
The result was announced— yeas 32, nays 21, as follows:
YEAS— 32.
Robinson, Ark.
Lane, Ore.
' Clarke, Ark
Ashurst, Ariz.
Sheppard, Tex.
Lee, Md.
Crawford, S. D.
Borah, Idaho
Sherman, 111.
Norris, Neb.
Gore, Okla.
Brady,Idaho
Smith, Ga.
Oliver, Pa.
Gronna, N. D.
Brandegee, Conn.
Smoot, Utah
Owen, Okla.
Hughes, N. J.
Bristow, Kans.
Thompson, Kans.
Page, Vt.
Jones, Wash.
Bryan, Fla.
Walsh, Mont.
Perkins, Cal.
Kenyon, Iowa
Burton, Ohio
West, Ga.
Ransdell, La.
La Follette, Wis.
Chamberlain, Ore.
NAYS— 21.
Swanson, Va.
Pomerene, Ohio
Lewis, 111.
Bankhead, Ala.
Tillman, S. C.
McCumber, N. D. Saulsbury, Del.
Burleigh, Me.
Williams, Miss.
Shafroth, Colo.
Martin, Va.
Chilton, W. Va.
Shively, Ind.
Martine, N. J.
Clark, Wyo.
Simmons, N. C.
Overman, N. C.
Gallinger, N. H.
Sterling, S. D.
__
Pittman, Nev.
Johnson, Me.
NOT VOTING—42.
Stone, Mo.
Hitchcock, Neb.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Bradley, Ky.
Hollis, N. H.
Penrose, Pa.
Sutherland, Utah
Catron, N. Mex.
James, Ky.
P oindexter , Wash. Thomas, Colo.
Clapp, Minn.
Kern, Ind.
Reed, Mo.
Thornton, La.
Colt, R. I.
Lea, Tenn.
Root, N. Y.
Townsend, Mich.
Culberson, Tex.
Lippitt, R. I.
Shields, Tenn.
Vardaman, Miss.
Cummins, Iowa
Lodge, Mass.
Smith, Ariz.
Warren, Wyo.
Dillingham, Vt.
McLean, Conn.
Smith, Md.
Weeks. Mass.
du Pont, Del.
Myers, Mont.
Smith, Mich.
Works, Cal.
Fall, N. Mex.
Nelson, Minn.
Smith, S. C.
Fletcher, Fla.
Newlands, Nev.
Stephenson, Wis.
Goff, W. Va.
Senator Lodge was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Weeks was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y ea .
Senator Cummins was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Dillingham was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Stephenson was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y ._________
MIGRATORY GAME AND INSECTIVOROUS BIRDS. AGRICULTURE
APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 13679). C ongressional R ecord , P er­
manent B ound E dition , May 12, 1914, page 8447.
The roll-call here given was on accepting the amendment of the Senate Committee
on Agriculture and Forestry, the amendment being to strike out the House appro­
priation of $50,000 for the purpose of carrying out the provisions of the act relative
to the protection of migratory game and insectivorous birds and in lieu thereof to
insert $10,000.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of the $10,000 appropriation.
A N ay vote was a vote in favor of the $50,000 appropriation.
The result was announced—yeas 17, nays 45, as follows:
YEAS— 17.
Vardaman, Miss.
Overman, N. C.
Shafroth, Colo.
Bankhead, Ala.
West, Ga.
Smith, Ga.
Ransdell, La.
Bryan, Fla.
Smith, S. C.
Reed, Mo.
Gore, Okla.
Stone, Mo.
Robinson, Ark.
Martin, Va.
Tillman, S. C.
Saulsbury, Del.
Newlands, Nev.
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NAYS—45.
Smith, Ariz.
du Pont, Del.
McCumber, N. D
Smoot, Utah
McLean, Conn.
Gallinger, N. H.
Sterling, S. D.
Martine, N. J.
Groflna, N. D.
Thompson, Kans.
Norris, Neb.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Thornton, La.
Oliver, Pa.
Hollis, N. H.
Townsend, Mich.
Owen, Okla.
Hughes, N. J.
Weeks, Mass.
Page, Vt.
Johnson, Me.
Williams, Miss.
Perkins, Cal.
Jones, Wash.
P oindexter , Wash. Works, Cal.
Kenyon, Iowa
Sheppard, Tex.
La Follette, Wis.
Sherman, III.
Lane, Ore.
Shively, Ind.
Lee, Md
NOT VOTING— 33
Stephenson, Wis.
Goff, W. Va.
O’Gorman^ N. Y.
Borah, Idaho
Sutherland, Utah
James,
Ky.
Penrose,
Pa
Bradley, Ky.
Swanson, Va.
Kern,
Ind.
Pittman,
Nev.
Catron, N. Mex.
Thomas, Colo.
Lea, Tenn!
Pomerene, Ohio
Chilton, W. Va.
Walsh, Mont.
Lewis,
1
11.
Root,
N.
Y.
Clarke, Ark.
Warren, Wyo.
Lippitt, R. I.
Shields, lenn.
Crawford, S. D.
Lodge, Mass.
Simmons, N. C.
Culberson, Tex.
Myers, Mont.
Smith, Md.
Fall, N. Mex.
eicner, Fla.
ria,.
Nelson, Minn.
Smith, Mich.
Fletcher,
So the amendment reported by the committee was rejected.
,
Senator Penrose was absent. If present, he would have votedJs a •
Senator Smith, of Georgia, paired in favor of the amendment with Senatoi L, g

Ashurst, Ariz.
Brady, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Burleigh, Me.
Burton, Ohio
Chamberlain, Ore.
Clapp, Minn.
Clark, Wyo.
Colt, R. I.
Cummins, Iowa
Dillingham, Vt.

a§Senator Crawford was paired.
RURAL CREDITS.

If at liberty to vote, he would have voted N a y .

AGRICULTURE APPROPRIATION BILL (f t K; ‘ f v9>-

C ongressional R ecord , Permanent B ound E dition , May 10,

pages 8652-8653.
The roll-call here given was on accepting the following ^ d n ^ t p r ^ e d b^rt e
Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry: The Secretary of Agncrdt
authorized to make studies of cooperation among farmers, m the United^States
matters of rural credits and of other forms of cooperatmn in rural communities io
diffuse among the people of the United States useful information growing out ot
tlmsTstuXes'in orcfSto provide a basis for broader utilization of results secured by
the research experimental, and demonstration work of the Department of Agi icult
,
State experiment stations; and to employ such persom m d
m eT s to the“ it y ? f’ Washington and elsewhere as the Secretary may cons.der necessary, $50,000.”
. ,,
The result was announced—yeas 35, nays 19, as ioilows.
YEAS—35.
P oindexter , Wash. Smith, Ga.
Jones, Wash.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Smith, Mich.
Pomerene, Ohio
Kern, Ind.
Brady, Idaho
Smith, S. C.
Ransdell, La.
La Follette, Wis.
Bryan, Fla.
Swanson, Va;
Reed, Mo.
Lee, Md.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Thompson, Kans.
McCumber, N. D Robinson, Ark.
Gore, Okla.
Thornton, La.
Shafroth, Colo.
Norris, Neb.
Gronna, N. D.
Vdrdaman, Miss.
Sheppard, Tex.
Page, Vt.
Hollis, N. H.
Williams, Miss.
Shields, Tenn.
Perkins, Cal.
James, Ky
Smith, Ariz.
Pittman, Nev.
Johnson, Me.
NAYS— 19.
Tillman, S. C.
Overman, N. C.
Crawford, S. D
Brandegee, Conn.
Weeks, Mass.
Sherman, 111.
Kenyon, Iowa
Bristow, Kans.
West, Ga.
Shively, Ind.
Lane, Ore.
Burleigh, Me.
Works, Cal.
Smoot, Utah
Martin, Va.
Burton, Ohio
Sterling, S. D.
Martine, N. J.
Catron, N. Mex.
NOT VOTING— 41.
Smith, Md.
d u P o n t , D e l.
M cL ean, C onn
Bankhead, Ala.
Stephenson, Wis.
Myers, Mont.
Fall, N. Mex.
Borah, Idaho
Stone, Mo.
Nelson, Minn.
Fletcher, Fla.
Bradley, Ky.
Sutherland, Utah
Newlands, Nev.
Gallinger, N. H.
Chilton, W. Va.
Thomas, Colo.
0 ’Gorman, N. Y.
Goff, W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Townsend, Mich.
Oliver, Pa.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Clark, Wyo.
Walsh, Mont.
Owen, Okla.
Hughes, N. J.
Clarke, Ark.
Warren, Wyo.
Penrose, Pa.
Lea, Tenn.
Colt, R. I.
Root, N. Y.
Lewis, 111.
Culberson, Tex.
Saulsbury, Del.
Lippitt, R. I.
Cummins, Iowa.
Simmons, N. C.
Lodge, jMass.
unngnam, Vt.
vt.
.uouge,
.vj.» ss.
Dillingham,
So the amendment of the committee as amended was agreed to.
Senator Townsend was absent. If present, he would have voted
•
Senator Gallinger was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would




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PANAMA CANAL TOLLS (H. R. 14385). C ongressional R ecord, P erma­
nent B ound E dition , June 10, 1914, page 10158.
The roll-call here given was on passing an amendment to the bill providing for the
repeal of the law exempting American vessels engaged in the coastwise trade from
the payment of tolls on the Panama Canal. The amendment read as follows:
“ Provided, that the passage of this act shall not be construed or held as a waiver
or relinquishment of any right the United States may have under the treaty with
Great Britain, ratified February 21, 1902, or the treaty with the republic of Panama
ratified February 26, 1904, or otherwise, to discriminate in favor of its vessels by
exempting the vessels of the United States or its citizens from the payment of tolls
or passage through said canal, or as in any way waiving, impairing, or affecting anv
right of the United States under said treaty, or otherwise, with the respect to the
sovereignty over or the ownership, control, and management of said canal, and the
regulation of the conditions or charges of traffic through the same.”
The result was announced—yeas 50, nays 24, as follows:
YEAS—50.
Nelson, Minn.
Smith, Ga.
Johnson, Me.
Bankhead., Ala.
Smith, Md.
Neuilands, Nev.
Kenyon, Iowa
Brandegee, Conn.
Smith, S. C.
Norris, Neb.
Kern, Ind.
Bryan, Fla.
Sterling, S. D.
Overman, N. C.
Lane, Ore.
Chilton, W. Va.
Stone, Mo.
Owen, Okla.
Lea, Tenn.
Colt, R. I.
Pittman, Nev.
Swanson, Va.
Lee, Md.
Crawford, S. D.
P oindexter , Wash. Thomas, Colo.
Lewis, 111.
Culberson. Tex.
Saulsbury, Del.
Thompson, Kans.
Lippitt, R. I.
Fletcher, Fla.
Sha.froth., Colo.
Weeks, Mass.
Lodge, Mass.
Gronna, N. D.
West, Ga.
McCumber, N. D. Sheppard, Tex.
Hitchcock, Neb.
White, Ala.
Shively, Ind.
McLean, Conn.
Hollis, N. H.
Simmons, N. C.
Martin, Va.
Hughes, N. J.
Smith, Ariz.
James, Ky.
Myers, Mont.
NAYS—24.
Pomerene, Ohio
Goff, W. Ya.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Sutherland, Utah
Ransdell, La.
Bristow, Kans.
Jones, Wash.
Townsend, Mich.
Reed, Mo.
Walsh., Mont.
Martine, N. J.
Burleigh, Me.
Shields,
Tenn.
O'Gorman, N. Y.
Warren, Wyo.
Clark, Wyo.
Smith,
Mich.
Cummins, Iowa
Page, Vt.
Williams, Miss.
Perkins, Cal.
Smoot, Utah
Works, Cal.
Gallinger, N. H.
NOT VOTING— 21.
Thornton, La.
Oliver, Pa.
Clarke, Ark.
Borah, Idaho
Tillman, S. C.
Penrose, Pa.
Dillingham, Vt.
Brady, Idaho
Vardaman, Miss.
Robinson, Ark.
Burton, Ohio
du Pont, Del.
Catron, N. Mex.
Fall, N. Mex.
Root, N. Y.
Sherman, 111.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Gore, Okla.
Stephenson, Wis.
La Follette, Wis.
Clapp, Minn.
So the amendment of Mr. Simmons to the committee amendment was agreed to.
Senator Oliver was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Root was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Thornton was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Yardaman was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted N ay .
Senator Clarke of Arkansas and Senator Robinson were absent. If present, they
would have voted Y e a . They were paired with Senator Catron and Senator Penrose.
There were several roll-calls on amendments. These are given in the Congressional
Record for June 10, 1914. As long as the supply lasts, a copy of this record may be
bought from the Superintendent of Documents, Government Printing Office, Wash­
ington, D. C., for thirteen cents.
PANAMA CANAL TOLLS (H. R. 14385). C ongressional R ecord, P ermanent
B ound E dition , June 11, 1914, pages 10247-10248.
The roll-call here given was on repealing the law exempting American vessels
engaged in the coastwise trade from the payment of tolls on the Panama Canal.
A Y

ea

v o t e w a s a v o t e a g a in s t e x e m p tin g A m e r ic a n v e s s e ls .

A N ay vote was a vote in favor of such exemption.




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The result was announced—yeas .50, nays 35, as follows.
YEAS— 50.
Norris, Neb.
Hughes,
N.
J.
Bankhead, Ala.
Overman, N. C.
James, Ky.
Brandegee, Conn.
Owen, Okla.
Johnson, Me.
Bryan, Fla.
Pittman, Nev.
Kenyon, Iowa
Burton, Ohio
Pomerene, Ohio
Kern, Ind.
Chilton, W. Va.
Root, N. Y.
Lea, Tenn.
Clarke, Ark.
Saulsbury, Del.
Lee, Md.
Colt, R. I.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lewis, 111.
Crawford,. S. D.
McCumber, N. D. Sheppard, Tex.
Culberson, Tex.
Sherman, 111.
McLean, Conn.
Fletcher, Fla.
Shively, Ind.
Martin, Va.
Gore, Okla.
Simmons, N. C.
Myers, Mont.
Gronna, N. D.
Smith, Ariz.
Nelson, Minn.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Borah, Idaho
Brady, Idaho
Bristow, Kans.
Burleigh, Ale.
Catron, N. Mex.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Clapp, Minn.
Clark, Wyo.
Fall, N. Mex.
Gallinger, N. H
Hollis, N. H.

NAYS— 35.
Newlands, Nev.
Cummins, Iowa
O'Gorman, N. Y .
Dillingham, Vt.
Page, Vt.
du Pont, Del.
Perkins, Cal.
Goff, W. Va.
P oind exter , Wash.
Jones, Wash.
Ransdell, La.
La Follette, Wis.
Reed, Mo.
Lane, Or£.
Shields, Tenn.
Lippitt, R. I.
Smith, Mich.
Martine, N. J.
NOT VOTING— 10.
Lodge, Mass.
Robinson, Ark.
Oliver, Pa.
Stephenson, Wis.
Penrose, Pa.
Tillman, S. C.

Smith, Ga.
Smith, Md.
Smith, S. C.
Sterling, S. D.
Stone, Mo.
Swanson, Va.
Thompson, Kans.
Thornton, La.
West, Ga.
White, Ala.
Williams, Miss.

Smoot, Utah
Sutherland, Utah
Thomas, Colo.
Townsend, Mich.
Vardaman, Miss.
Warren, Wyo.
Weeks, Mass.
Works, Cal.

Walsh, Mont.

leimtor*Lodge S S ^ i r e d against exemption with Senator Gallinger in favor.
Senate Hollis was paired. If at liberty to vote he would have voted Y ba.
Qonafnr Ponrosp was absent. If present, he would ha*\6 \oted. N a y . ^
There were several roll-calls on amendments printed in the Congressional Record
lhere were eseveral rou t
this Record can be bought
D o c S S S fG o v e m m e S i Printing Office, Washmgton,
_____

D. C., for fourteen cents.

M ITFATF OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS (Legislative, Executive and Judicial
5ppropr?aUon M l , H R. 15279). C ongbessionai . R ecord , P ermanent
B ound E dition , June 15,1914, page 10459.
, ,

S

a mile rate, appropriating *175,000 for tin . purpose.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of the 20 cents rate.
A N ay vote was a vote in favor of actual expenses.

_
The result was announced—yeas 42, nays 17, as follows.

Bankhead, Ala.
Brady, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Bryan, Fla.
Burleigh, Me.
Catron, N. Alex.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Chilton, W. Va.
Clarke, Ark.
Dillingham, Vt.

YEAS—42.
Perkins, Calif.
Fletcher, Fla.
Pittman, Nev.
Johnson, Me.
Reed, Mo.
Jones, Wash.
Robinson, Ark.
Kern, Ind.
McCumber, N. D. Root, N. Y .
Saulsbury, Del.
Martin, Va.
Shafroth, Colo.
Martine, N . J.
Shively, Ind.
Nelson, Minn.
Simmons, N. C.
Overman, N. C.
Smith, Ariz.
Owen, Okla.
Smith, Md.
Page, Vt.

Borah, Idaho
Burton, Ohio
Clapp, Minn.
Cummins, Iowa
Kenyon, Iowa

NAYS— 17.
Smith, Ga.
La Follette, Wis.
Smith, Mich.
Lane, Ore.
Swanson, Va.
Norris, Neb.
'Thompson, Kans.
Pomerene, Ohio
Tillman, S. C.
Sheppard, Tex.




13

Smoot, Utah.
Stephenson, Wis.
Sterling, S. D.
Sutherland, Utah.
Thomas, Colo.
Thornton, La.
Warren, Wyo.
West, Ga.
White, Ala.

Townsend, Mich.
Pdrdaman, Miss.

NOT VOTING—36.
Gore, Okla.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Lippitt, R. I.
Clark, Wyo.
Gronna, N. D.
Lodge, Mass.
Colt, R. 1.
Hitchcock, Neb.
McLean, Conn.
Crawford, S. D.
Hollis, N. H.
Myers, Mont.
Culberson, Tex.
Hughes, N. J.
Newlands, Nev.
James, Ky.
du Pont, Del.
O'Gorman, N. Y.
Fall, N. Mex.
Lea, Tenn.
Oliver, Pa.
Gallinger, N. H.
Lee, Md.
Penrose, Pa.
Goff, W. Va.
Lewis, 111.
P oind exter , Wash.
So the amendment was concurred in.
Senator Oliver was absent.

Ransdell, La.
Sherman, 111.
Shields, Tenn.
Smith, S. C.
Stone, Mo.
Walsh, Mont.
Weeks, Mass.
Williams, Miss.
Works, Cal.

If present, he would have voted Y e a .

EXEMPTING COMMERCIAL ATTACHES of the Department o f Commerce from
the provisions of the Civil Service. Legislative, Executive and Judicial Aonro
priation Bill (H. R. 15279). C ongressional R ecord, P ermanent Rmivn
E dition , June 15, 1914, page 10467.
The bill appropriated $100,000 for'commercial attaches, to be appointed by the
Secretary of Commerce, to investigate and report upon such conditions of man u'
facture and industry in foreign countries as may be of interest to the United States'
The roll-call here given was on an amendment proposed by Senator Kern taking
these positions from under the civil service and providing that an examination should
be held under the direction of the Secretary of Commerce to determine competencv
It is claimed by those who opposed this amendment that it was an assault on the
civil service.
A Y ea vote was a vote against civil service examinations.
A N ay vote was a vote in favor of civil service examinations.
The result was announced—yeas 33, nays 30, as follows:
Bankhead, Ala.
Bryan, Fla.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Chilton, W. Ya.
Clarke, Ark.
Fletcher, Fla.
Gore, Okla.
James, Ky.
Johnson, Me.

YEAS—33.
Kern, Ind.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lee, Md.
Sheppard, Tex.
Lewis, 111.
Shively, Ind.
Martin, Va.
Simmons, N. C.
Marline, N. J.
Smith, Ariz.
Overman, N. C.
Smith, Ga.
Pittman, Nev.
Smith, Md.
Pomerene, Ohio
Stone, Mo.
Reed, Mo.
Swanson, Va.

Borah, Idaho
Brady, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Burleigh, Me.
Burton, Ohio
Catron, N. Mex.
Clapp, Minn.

NAYS— 30.
Crawford, S. D.
McCumber, N. D.
Cummins, Iowa
Nelson, Minn.
Dillingham, Vt.
Norris, Nebr,
Hughes, N. J.
Page, Vt.
Jones, Wash.
Perkins, Cal.
Kenyon, Iowa
Root, N. Y.
La Follette, Wis.
Smith, Mich.
Lane, Ore.
Smoot, Utah

Thompson, Ivans.
Thornton, La.
Tillman, S. C.
West, Ga.
White, Ala.
Williams, Miss.

Stephenson, Wis.
Sterling, S. D.
Sutherland, Utah
Thomas, Colo.
Townsend, Mich.
Warren, Wyo.

NOT VOTING—32.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Gronna, N. D.
Newlands, Nev.
Saulsbury, Del.
Clark, Wyo.
Hitchcock, Neb.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Sherman, 111.
Colt, R. 1.
Hollis, N. H.
Oliver, Pa.
Shields, Tenn.
Culberson, Tex.
Lea, Tenn.
Owen, Okla.
Smith, S. C.
du Pont, Del.
Lippitt, R. I.
Penrose, Pa.
Vardanian, Miss.
Fall, N. Mex.
Lodge, Mass.
P oindexter , Wash. Walsh, Mont.
Gallinger, N. H.
McLean, Conn.
Ransdell, La.
Weeks, Mass.
Goff, W. Va.
Myers, Mont.
Robinson, Ark.
Works, Cal.
So Mr. Kern’s amendment to the amendment was agreed to.
Senator Myers was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
COMMISSION ON INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS (Sundry Civil Appropriation
Bill, H. R. 17041). C ongressional R ecord, P ermanent B ound E dition
for July 7, 1914, page 11701.
The roll-call here given was on an amendment to this bill reducing the appropriation
for carrying on the work of the Commission on Industrial Relations from $200 000
to $50,000.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of the reduction.
A N ay vote was a vote against the reduction.




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The result was announced—yeas 18, nays 46, as follows
YEAS— 18.
Reed, Mo.
Martin,
Va.
Bryan, Fla.
Shafroth, Colo.
Oliver, Pa.
•Chamberlain, Ore.
Shields, Term.
Overman, N. C.
Clarke, Ark.
Simmons, N. C
Perkins, Cal.
Dillingham, Vt.
Smith, Ga.
Ransdell, La.
Fletcher, Fla.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Borah, Idaho
Brady, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kars.
Burton, Ohio
Catron, N. Mex.
Chilton, W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Crawford, S. D.
Cummins, Iowa
Hollis, X. H.

Swanson, Va.
Thornton, La.
Warren, Wyo.

NAYS—46.
Myers, Mont.
Hughes, N. J.
Nelson, Minn.
James, Ky.
Newlands, Nev.
Jones, Wash.
Norris, Neb.
Ivenyon, Iowa
Page, Vt.
Kern, Ind.
Pittman, Nev.
Lane, Ore.
P oindexter , Wash.
Lee, Md.
Pomerene, Ohio
Lewis, 111.
Sheppard, Tex.
Lippitt, R. I.
McCumber, N. D. Shively, Ind.
Smith, Ariz.
McLean, Conn.
Smoot, Utah
Martine, N. J.

Sterling, S. D.
Stone, Mo.
Sutherland, Utah
Thompson, Kans.
Townsend, Mich.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
White, Ala.
Williams, Miss.
Works, Cal.

NOT VOTING—32.
Smith, Md.
Lodge, Mass.
Gallinger, N. H.
Bankhead, Ala.
Smith, Mich.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Goff, W. Va.
Burleigh, Me.
Smith, S. C.
Owen, Okla..
Gore, Okla.
Camden, Ky.
Stephenson, Wis.
Penrose, Pa.
GronfTa, N. D.
Clark, Wyo.
Thomas, Colo.
Robinson, Ark.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Colt, R. I.
Tillman, S. C.
Root, N. Y.
Johnson, Me.
Culberson, Tex.
Weeks, Mass.
Saulsbury, Del.
La Follette, Wis.
du Pont, Del.
West, Ga.
Sherman, 111.
Lea, Tenn.
Fall, N. Mex.
the committee was rejected.
A ,v
So the amendment
Senator Gallinger was nn.ired. If at libertv to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 17041). C ongressional
R ecord, P ermanent B ound E dition , July 8, 1914, page U80o.
The roll-call here given was to lay on the table an amendment to strike out the
f° /^od deT ^ow ev^ That no part of this money shall be spent in the prosecution of
craniyation or individual for entering into any combination or agreement ha\ l g
shortening of hours, or bettering the conditions of
labplnvided further That no part of this appropriation shall be expended for the prose­
cution of m X c e r s of farm products and associations of farmers who cooperate and
organize in an effort to and for the purpose to obtain and maintain a fair and reasonable puce
striking out the sections.
A N ay vote was a vote in favor of striking out the sections.
The result was announced—yeas 41, nays 17, as follows.
YEAS—41.
Overman, N. C.
Poindexter , Wash.
Ransdell, La.
Reed, Mo.
Saulsbury, Del.
Shafroth, Colo.
Sheppard, Tex.
Shields, Tenn.
Shively, Ind.
Simmons, N. C.
Smith, Ariz.

Ashurst, Ariz.
Brady, Idaho
Bryan, Fla.
Camden, Ky.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Chilton. W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Clarke, Ark.
Cummins, Iowa
Hitchcock, Neb.
Hughes, N. J.

James, Ky.
Jones, Wash.
Kenyon, Iowa
Kern, Ind.
Lane, Ore.
Lewis, 111.
Martin, Va.
Martine, N. J.
Myers, Mont.
Newlands, Nev.
Norris, Neb.

Borah, Idaho
Brandegee, Conn.
Bristow, Kans.
Burton, Ohio
Catron, N. Mex.

NAYS— 17.
Perkins, Cal.
Colt, R. I.
Pomerene, Ohio
Dillingham, Vt.
Smith, Mich.
Nelson, Minn.
Sterling, S. D.
Oliver, Pa.
Sutherland, Utah
Page, Vt.




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Smith, Ga.
Smith, Md.
Stone, Mo.
Swanson, Va.
Thompson, Kans.
Vardaman, Miss.
White, Ala.
Williams, Miss.

Weeks, Mass.
Works, Cal.

NOT VOTING—38.
Gore, Okla.
McLean, Conn.
Bankhead, Ala.
Stephenson, Wis.
Gronna, N. D.
O' Gorman, N. Y,
Burleigh, Me.
Thomas, Colo.
Hollis, N. H.
Oxoen, Okla.
Clark, Wyo.
Thornton, La.
Johnson, Me.
Penrose, Pa.
Crawford, S. D.
Tillman, S. C.
La Follette, Wis.
Pittman, N e v .
Culberson, Tex.
Townsend, Mich,
Lea, Tenn.
Robinson, Ark.
du Pont, Del.
Walsh, Mont.
Lee, Md.
Root, N. Y.
Fall, N. Mex.
Warren, Wyo.
Sherman, 111.
Lippitt, R. I.
Fletcher, Fla,
West, Ga.
Smith, S. C.
Lodge, Mass.
Gallinger, N. H.
McCumber, N. D. Smoot, Utah
Goff, W. Va.
So Mr. Sterling's amendment was laid on the table.
Pairs—Senator Hollis was paired with Senator Burleigh. If at liberty to vote, would
vote Y e a .
Senator Thomas was paired with Senator Root. If at liberty to vote, would
vote N a y .
Senator Walsh was paired with Senator Lippitt. If at liberty to vote, would
vote Y e a .
Senator Warren was paired with Senator Fletcher. If at liberty to vote,
would vote N a y .
Senator Lodge was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Townsend was absent and paired with Senator Robinson. If present
and at liberty to vote, would have voted N a y .
Senator Sherman was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Tillman was absent and paired with Senator Goff. If present and at
liberty to vote, would have voted Y e a .
Senator Crawford was paired with Senator Lea. If at liberty to vote, would
vote N a y .
MILEAGE OF SENATORS. Legislative, Executive and Judicial Appropriation
Bill (H. R. 15279). C ongressional R ecord, P ermanent B ound E dition
July 13, 1914, page 12013.
The roll-call here given was on the question of refusing to accept the House
amendment to the bill putting the mileage of Senators at five cents a mile.
A Y e a v o t e w a s a v o t e in favor o f t w e n t y c e n t s m ile a g e .
A N a y v o t e w a s a v o t e in favor o f f iv e c e n t s m ile a g e .
The result was announced—yeas 55, nays 7, as follows:
YEAS— 55.
Sterling, S. D.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Hitchcock, Nebr.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Stone, Mo.
Overman, N. C.
Hughes, N. J.
Bankhead, Ala.
Swanson, Va.
Johnson, Me.
Page, Vt.
Brady, Idaho
Thomas, Colo.
Perkins, Cal.
Jones, Wash.
Brandegee, Conn.
P oindexter , Wash. Thompson, Kans.
Kern, Ind.
Bristow, Ivans.
Tillman, S. C.
Reed, Mo.
Lea, Tenn.
Bryan, Fla.
Townsend, Mich.
Root, N. Y.
Lee, Md.
Burton, Ohio
Walsh, Mont.
McCumber, N. D. Saulsbury, Del.
Camden, Ky.
Warren, Wyo.
Shafroth, Colo.
McLean, Conn.
Catron, N. Mex.
IFesi, Ga.
Shields, Tenn.
Martin, Va.
Chamberlain, Ore.
White, Ala.
Simmons, N. C.
Martine, N. J.
Clarke, Ark.
Williams, Miss.
Smith, Ariz.
Myers, Mont.
Colt, R. I.
Works, Cal.
Smith, Mich.
Nelson, Minn.
Gallinger, N. H.
Smoot, Utah
Newlands, Nev.
Gronna, N. D.
NAYS—7.
S—7.
Vardanian, Miss.
Norris, Neb.
Kenyon, Iowa
Borah, Idaho
Sheppard, Tex.
Lane, Ore.
Clapp, Minn.
NOT VOTING— 34.
Smith, Ga.
Oliver, Pa.
Fletcher, Fla.
Burleigh, Me.
Smith, Md.
Owen, Okla.
Goff, W. Va.
Chilton, W. Va.
Smith, S. C.
Penrose, Pa.
Gore, Okla.
Clark, Wyo.
Stephenson, Wis.
Pittman, Nev.
Hollis, N. H.
Crawford, S. D.
Sutherland, Utah
Pomerene, Ohio
James, Ky.
Culberson, Tex.
Thornton, La.
Ransdell, La.
La Follette, Wis.
Cummins, Iowa
Weeks, Mass.
Robinson, Ark.
Lewis, 111.
Dillingham, Vt.
Sherman, 111.
Lippitt, R. I.
du Pont, Del.
Shively, Ind.
Lodge, Mass.
Fall, N. Mex.
Senator Robinson was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Pairs—Senator Lodge was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
So the motion of Mr. Martin, of Virginia, was agreed to.




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FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION (H. R. 15613).

C ongressional R ecord ,
P ermanent B ound E dition , A u g . 5 , 1 9 1 4 , p a g e 1 3 3 1 4

The roll-call here given was on Senator Reed’s amendment defining “ unfair com­
petition.”
embrace all devices, CBnceataen^threats,
coercions, deceits, frauds, discriminations, dishonest practices false ^ P ™ tah^ s’
slanders of business, and all other acts, whether o f,llke
w th those heron
enumerated or not, done or used with the intent or the effect
,
,
•'
or unreasonably hinder the business of another or prevent another from engaging
in b u s in e s s .”
A Y ea v o te w as a v o te
A N ay v o te w as a v o te

.

,

in favor o f a c c e p t in g t h i s a m e n d m e n t .
against a c c e p t in g t h is a m e n d m e n t .
The result was announced— yeas 29, nays 33, as follows:
YEAS—29.
Sutherland, Utah
Hitchcock, Neb.
Overman, N. C.
Brady, Idaho
Vardaman, Miss.
Jones, Wash.
Page* Vt.
Bryan, Fla.
Walsh, Mont.
Kenyon, Iowa
Perkins, Cal.
Burton, Ohio
Weeks, Mass.
Lane, Ore.
Pittman, Nev.
Chilton, W. Va.
West, Ga.
McCumber, N. D. Cornerene, Ohio
Clark, Wyo.
Myers, Mont.
Reed, Mo.
Clarke, Ark.
Nelson, Minn.
Sterling, S. D.
Colt, R. I.
Qi'Gorman, N. Y . Stone, Mo.
Gallinger, N. H.
NAYS— 33.
Smith, Md.
Martine, N. J.
Hnghes, N. J.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Smoot, Utah
Newlands, Nev.
James, Ky.
Bristow, Ivans.
Swanson, Va.
Ransdell, La.
Johnson, Me.
Camden, Ivy.
Thompson, Kans.
Saulsbury, Del.
Kern, Ind.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Thornton, La.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lea, Tenn.
Clapp, Minn.
White, Ala.
Sheppard, Tex.
Lee, Md.
Cummins, Iowa
Shively, Ind.
Lewis? 111.
Fall, N. Alex.
Smith, Ariz.
Lippitt, R. I.
Gronna, N. D.
Smith, Ga.
Martin, Va.
Hollis, N. H.
NOT VOTING—34
Stephenson, Wis.
Penrose, Pa.
Bankhead, Ala.
Fletcher, Fla
P oindexter , Wash. Thomas, Colo.
Borah, Idaho
Goff, W. Va.
Tillman, S. C.
Robinson, Ark.
Brandegee, Conn.
Gore, Okla.
Townsend, Mich.
Root, N. Y.
Burleigh, Me.
La Follette, V is.
Warren, W yo.
Sherman, 111.
Catron, N. Mex.
Lodge, Mass.
Williams, Miss.
Shields, Tenn.
Crawford, S. D.
McLean, Conn.
Works, Cal.
Simmons, N. C.
Culberson, Tex.
Norris, Neb.
Smith, Mich.
Dillingham, Vt.
Oliver, Pa.
Smith, S. C.
du Pont, Del.
Owen, Okla.
So Mr. Reed’s amendment was rejected.
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION (H. R. 15613). C ongressional R ecokb,
P ermanent B ound E dition , Aug. 5, 1914, page 13319.
This was a bill to create a commission of five members, not more than three of whom
should be members of the same political party, to investigate the organization,
business financial condition, conduct, practices, and management of any corporation
engaged’ in commerce, and its relation to other corporations and to individuals,
a s s o c ia t io n s , a n d p a r tn e r s h ip s .
A Y e a vote was a vote in favor of the passage of
\ N a y vote was a vote against the passage of this

The result was
Ashurst, Ariz.
Brady, Idaho
Bristow, Ivans.
Bryan, Fla.
Camden, Ky.
Chilton, W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Clarke, Ark.
Crawford, S. D.
Cummins, Iowa
Fall, N. Mex.
Gronna, N. D.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Hollis, N. H.




this bill.
bill.
announced—yeas 53, nays 16, as follows.
YEAS—53.
Norris, Neb.
Hughes, N. J.
0 ’Gorman, N. Y.
James, Ky.
Overman, N. C.
Johnson, Me.
Owen, Okla.
Jones, Wash.
Perkins, Cal.
Kenyon, Iowa
Pittman, Nev.
Kern, Ind.
Pomerene, Ohio
Lane, Ore.
Ransdell, La.
Lea, Tenn.
Saulsbury, Del.
Lee, Aid.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lewis, 111.
Sheppard, Tex.
Martin, Va.
Shively, Ind.
Martine, N. J.
Simmons, N . C.
Myers, Mont.
Smith, Ariz.
Newlands, Nev.
17

Smith, Ga.
Smith, Md.
Sterling. S. D.
Stone, Alo.
Swanson, Va.
Thompson, Kans.
Thornton, La.
Tillman, S. C.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Alont.
White, Ala.

NAYS— 16.
Colt, R. I.
McLean, Conn.
Sutherland, Utah
Gallinger, N. H.
Nelson, Minn.
Thomas, Colo.
Lippitt, R. I.
Page, Vt.
Weeks, Mass.
McCumber, N. D .. Smoot, Utah
West, Ga.
NOT VOTING—27.
Fletcher, Fla.
Bankhead, Ala.
P oind exter , Wash. Smith, S. C.
Goff, W. Va.
Borah, Idaho
Reed, Mo.
Stephenson, Wis.
Robinson, Ark.
Gore, Okla.
Burleigh, Me.
Townsend, Mich.
La Follette, Wis.
Root, N. Y.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Warren, Wyo.
Sherman, 111.
Lodge, Mass.
Culberson, Tex.
Williams, Miss.
Shields, Tenn.
Oliver, Pa.
Works, Cal.
Dillingham, Yt.
Smith, Mich.
Penrose, Pa.
du Pont, Del.
So the bill was passed.
Senator Chamberlain was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y ea
Senator Culberson was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y ea .
Senator La Follette was ill. If present, he would have voted Y ea .
Senator Lodge was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Penrose was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Williams was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Sherman was ill. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Reed was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Brandegee, Conn.
Burton, Ohio
Catron, N. Mex.
Clark, Wyo.

SILVER BULLION (Senate 6261). C ongressional R ecord, P ermanent
B ound E dition , Aug. 22, 1914, page 14127.
This was a bill to authorize the Secretary of the Treasury to purchase not to exceed
15,000,000 ounces of silver bullion.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of the passage of this bill.
A N ay vote was a vote against the passage of this bill.
The result was announced— yeas 39, nays 11, as follows:
YEAS— 39.
Ashurst, Ariz,
Hollis, N. H.
Overman, N. C.
Simmons, N. C.
Brady, Idaho
Hughes, N. J.
Perkins, Cal.
Smith, Md.
Bryan, Fla.
James, Ky.
Pittman, Nev.
Smoot, Utah
Camden, Ky.
Kern, Ind.
P oindexter , Wash. Swanson, Va.
Chamberlain, Ore. Lee, Md.
Pomerene, Ohio
Thomas, Colo.
Chilton, W. Va.
Lewis, 111.
Ransdell, La.
Thompson, Kans.
Clarke, Ark.
Martin, Va.
Reed, Mo.
Walsh, Mont.
Culberson, Tex.
Martine, N. J.
Shafroth, Colo.
White, Ala.
Fall, N. Mex.
Myers, Mont.
. Sheppard, Tex.
Williams, Miss.
Fletcher, Fla.
Newlands, Nev.
Shields, Tenn.
NAYS— 11.
Bristow, Kans.
Cummins, Iowa
Lane, Ore.
Weeks, Mass.
West, Ga.
Burton, Ohio
Dillingham, Vt.
Nelson, Minn.
Clapp, Minn.
Kenyon, Iowa
Norris, Neb.
NOT VOTING—46.
Bankhead, Ala.
Owen, Okla.
Stephenson, Wis.
Gronna, N. D.
Borah, Idaho
Page, Vt.
Sterling, S. D.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Brandegee, Conn.
Penrose, Pa.
Stone, Mo.
Johnson, Me.
Burleigh, Me.
Jones, Wash.
Robinson, Ark.
Sutherland, Utah
Catron, N. Mex.
La Follette, Wis.
Root, N. Y.
Thornton, La.
Lea, Tenn.
Clark, Wyo.
Saulsbury, Del.
Tillman, S. C.
Colt, R. I.
Sherman, 111.
Townsend, Mich.
Lippitt, R. I.
Crawford, S. D.
Lodge, Mass.
Shively, Ind.
Vardaman, Miss.
McCumber, N. D. Smith, Ariz.
du Pont, Del.
Warren, Wyo.
Gallinger, N. H.
McLean, Conn.
Smith, Ga.
Works, Cal.
Goff, W. Va.
Smith, Mich.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Gore, Okla.
Smith, S. C.
Oliver, Pa.
Senator Gronna was paired. I f at liberty to vote, h e would have voted N a y .
Senator Smith, of Georgia, was paired. I f at liberty to vote, he would have voted
Y

ea.

So the bill was passed.
ANTI-TRUST LEGISLATION (H. R. 15657). C ongressional R ecord, P er ­
manent B ound E dition , Aug. 26, 1914, page 14274.
The roll-call here given was on the following amendment offered by Senator Reed:
“ Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a
misdemeanor, and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not exceeding
$5,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding one year, or by both, in the discretion of
the court”
to the following amendment offered by Senator Walsh:




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I t is p r o p o se d t o insert a s a n e w ^ t i o n ,
^ c o n d i t i o n e r ! a n y 'c o n tr a c t r e la tin g
‘■Se c . 4 . T h a t i t s h a ll
p r o t e c t e d b y a p a te n t
t o t h e s a le o r le a s e o f o r h c e n s e t o u
; i - u : t o r r e st r ic t t h e p u r c h a se r , le s s e e , o r
o r p a t e n t s t h e e ffe c t o f w h ic h w ill bfB^ ? r° ^
” X e t h e r P a te n t e d or n o t, or a n y
lic e n s e e fr o m u s in g a n y a r tic le ° r c la s s
^ o t h e r t h a n t h e se lle r , le sso r , o r
p a t e n t e d p r o c e s s, s u p p lie d o r o w n e d y < Y P '
^ t r e q u ir e t h e p u r c h a se r , le s se e ,
lic e n so r , or h is n o m in e e s o r t h e e ffe c t o f which w iU b e t o r e q u ^
a n y a r tic le
o r h c e n s e e t o a c q u ir e fr o m t h e se lle r , le
’
^ c o n d itio n s s h a ll b e n u ll
o r c la s s o f a r tic le s n o t p r o t e c t e d b y t h e P a t e n t , a n d an y s
a n d v o id , a s b e in g in r e s tr a in t o f t r a d e a n d c o n tr a r y t o p u o
p
\ Y e a v o t e w a s a v o t e m favor o f a. p e n a lty .
A N a y v o t e w a s a v o t e against a p e n a lt y .
f ,, v p .

The result was announced—yeas 29, nays 21, a
YEAS—29.
.
r, r
c n
Sterling, S. D.
Perkins, Cal.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Thompson,
Kans.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Pittman, Nev.
Jones, Wash.
Townsend, Mich.
Borah, Idaho
P
oindexter , Wash.
Kenyon, Iowa
Vardaman, Miss.
Brady, Idaho
Reed, Mo.
Lane, Ore.
Bristow, Kans.
White, Ala.
Sheppard,
Tex.
Lee, Md.
Clapp, Minn.
McCumber, N. D. Shields, Tenn.
Cummins, Iowa
Shively, Ind.
Martine, N. J.
Dillingham, Vt.
Smoot, Utah
Nelson, Minn.
Fall, N. Mex.
NAYS—21.
Thornton, La.
Pomerene, Ohio.
Hughes, N. J.
Bankhead, Ala.
Walsh, Mont.
Ransdell, La.
Kern,
Ind.
Bryan, Fla.
West, Ga.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lewis, 111.
Camden, Ky.
Simmons, N. C.
Martin,
Va.
Chilton, W. Va.
Smith, Ga.
NewtUnds, Nev.
Cvlberson, Tex.
Smith, Md.
Overman, N. C.
Fletcher, Fla.
NOT VOTING— 46.
Stephenson, Wis
Gore, Okla.
Brandegee, Conn.
Stone, Mo.
Oliver, Pa.
Gronna,
N.
D.
Sutherland. Utah
Burleigh, Me.
Owen, Okla.
Hollis,
N.
H.
Burton, Ohio
Swanson, Va.
Page, Vt.
James,
Ky.
Matron, N. Mex.
Thomas, Colo.
Penrose, Pa.
Johnson,
Me.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Tillman, S. C.
Robinson, Ark.
La
Follette,
Wis.
Dlark, Wyo.
Warren, Wyo.
Root, N. Y.
Lea,
Tenn.
Clarke, Ark.
Weeks, Mass.
Saulsbury, Del.
Lippitt, R. I.
Williams, Miss.
Dolt, R. I.
Sherman, 111.
Lodge,
Mass.
Drawford, S. D.
Works, Cal.
Smith, Ariz.
McLean,
Conn.
iu Pont, Del.
Smith, Mich.
Myers, Mont.
Gallinger, N. H.
Smith, S. C.
Norris, Neb.
Goff, W. Va.
amendment to the amendment of Mr. Walsh was agreed to.

Senator Gronna was absent. If P[^iberty to'vote h ^ o id d have voted N a y .
Senator Thomas was paired. If at liberty to vote, ne wu
NTI-TRUST LEGISLATION (H. R. 15657). C ^ gh^ ionae R ecord, Per­
manent B ound Edition, Sept. 2, 1914, page
As passed by the Senate the bill
e x c l S 'a n d
nrporations convicted of offenses _agamfed the t u
>P
prohibited holding
ring contracts which .restneta j ^ ^ n c e nP“ e S f m L o p o l y , and made
mipanies where their effect s
interlocking directorates in competing
legal two years after the passage o
,i
nnn ooo It also forbade
orporations any one of which has capital
railroad
be interlocking of railroad directors w i t h ^ ^ ^ a u o n s ^ ^ g ^
contempt cases.
applies or contracts, and h^ era
^ ations not conducted for profit, are
5 i r K

r « h ° « o r a t i o yn was created, or of the State in winch .t

“t Y e! vote\“
A N

ay

e

v o te w as a v o te

in favorof the passage of the bill.
against t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e b il .

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19

The result was announced—yeas 46, nays 16, as follows:
YEAS— 46.
Newlands, Nev.
Norris, Neb.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Overman, N. C.
Perkins, Cal.
Pittman, Nev.
P oindexter , Wash.
Pomerene, Ohio
Ransdell, La.
Reed, Mo.
Shafroth, Colo.
Sheppard, Tex.

Ashurst, Ariz.
Bankhead, Ala.
Brady, Idaho
Bryan, Fla.
Camden, Ky.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Chilton, W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Culberson, Tex.
Cummins, Iowa
Fletcher, Fla.
Hitchcock, Neb.

Hollis, N. H.
Hughes, N. J.
Jones, Wash.
Kenyon, Iowa
Kern, Ind.
Lane, Ore.
Lea, Tenn.
Lee, Md.
Lewis, III.
Martin, Va.
Martine, N. J.
Myers, Mont.

Borah, Idaho
Burton, Ohio
Clark, Wyo.
Colt, R. I.

NAYS— 16.
Dillingham, Vt.
Lippitt, R. I.
du Pont, Del.
McCumber, N. D.
McLean, Conn.
Fall, N. Mex.
Gallinger, N. H.
Nelson, Minn.

Shields, Tenn.
Shively, Ind.
Simmons, N . C.
Smith, Md.
Swanson, Va.
Thompson, Kans.
Thornton, La.
Walsh, Mont.
White, Ala.
Williams, Miss.

Oliver, Pa.
Smith, Mich.
Smoot, Utah
Townsend, Mich.

NOT VOTING— 34.
Saulsbury, Del.
James, Ky.
Brandegee, Conn.
Thomas, Colo.
Sherman, 111.
Johnson, Me.
Bristow, Kans.
Tillman, S. C.
Smith, Ariz.
La Follette, Wis.
Burleigh, Me.
Vardaman, Miss.
Lodge, Mass.
Smith, Ga.
Catron, N. Mex.
Warren, Wyo.
Owen, Okla.
Clarke, Ark.
Smith, S. C.
Weeks, Mass.
Page, Vt.
Crawford, S. D.
Stephenson, Wis.
West, Ga.
Penrose, Pa.
Sterling, S. D.
Goff, W. Va.
Works, Cal.
Robinson, Ark.
Gore, Okla.
Stone, Mo.
Root, N. Y.
Gronna, N. D.
Sutherland, Utah
So the bill was passed.
Senator Gore was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Lodge was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Saulsbury was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Sutherland was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Thomas was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Vardaman was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Weeks was paired with Senator James. They would have voted N ay
and Y ea , respectively.
Senator Smith, of Arizona, was absent. If present, he would have voted Y ea .
RIVER AND HARBOR APPROPRIATION BILL (H. R. 13811). C ongressional
R ecord , P ermanent B ound E dition , Sept. 21, 1914, page 15475.
The roll-call here given was on the passage of the following motion:
“ Moved, that the pending bill, H. R. 13811, be recommitted to the Committee
on Commerce with instructions to report a substitute therefor appropriating an
amount not in excess of $20,000,000 for the maintenance of the river and harbor
projects adopted by Congress and now under improvement and for the further
prosecution of work on rivers and harbors heretofore adopted by Congress: Provided,
That the amounts for such maintenance and prosecution shall be apportioned by the
Chief of Engineers under the direction of the Secretary of War.
The bill as it came from the House carried appropriations aggregating $39,408,004
and authorizations of contracts to be provided for by future appropriations amounting
to $4,000,000; total, $43,408,004. The bill as reported to the Senate carries appro­
priations aggregating $43,330,404 and authorizations of continuing contracts amount­
ing to $10,352,600, a total of $53,683,004.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of recommitting.
A N ay vote was a vote against recommitting.
The result was announced—yeas 27, nays 22, as follows:
Ashurst, Ariz.
Bankhead, Ala.
Borah, Idaho
Burton, Ohio
Chilton, W. Va.
Clapp, Minn.
Crawford, S. D




Goff, W. Ya.
Gore, Okla.
Hollis, N. H.
Johnson, Ky.
Kenyon, Iowa
Lane, Ore.
Lee, Md.

VS— 27.
Lewis, 111.
Marline, N. J.
Nelson, Minn.
Norris, Neb.
Oliver, Pa.
Page, Vt.
Pittman, Nev.
20

Pomerene, Ohio.
Shafroth, Colo.
Smith, Ariz.
Smoot, Utah
Thompson, Kans.
White, Ala.

NAYS—22.
Overman, N. C.
Saulsbury, Del.
Penrose, Pa.
Sheppard, Tex.
Perkins, Cal.
Shields, Tenn.
P oindexter , Wash. Simmons, N. C.
Ransdell, La.
Smith, Md.
Robinson, Ark.
Smith, S. C.
NOT VOTING—47.
Brandegee, Conn.
Martin, Va.
Fall, N. Mex.
Gallinger, N. H.
Bristow, Kans.
Myers, Mont.
Gronna,
N.
D.
Burleigh, Me.
Newlands, Nev.
Camden, Ky.
Hitchcock, Neb.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Hughes, N. J.
Catron, N. Mex.
Owen, Okla.
James, Ky.
Clark, Wyo.
Reed, Mo.
Kern, Ind.
Clarke, Ark.
Root, N. Y.
La Follette, Wis.
Colt, R. I.
Sherman, III.
Lippitt, R. I.
Culberson, Tex.
Shively, Ind.
Cummins, Iowa
Lodge, Mass.
Smith, Ga.
Dillingham, Vt.
McCumber, N. D. Smith, Mich.
du Pont, Del.
McLean, Conn.
Stephenson, Wis.
So the motion of Mr. Bankhead to recommit the bill to the
merce with instructions was agreed to.
Brady, Idaho
Bryan, Fla.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Fletcher, Fla.
Jones, Wash.
Lea, Tenn.

Stone, Mo.
Thornton, La.
Townsend, Mich.
Williams, Miss.

Sterling, S. D.
Sutherland, Utah
Swanson, Va.
Thomas, Colo.
Tillman, S. C.
Vardaman, Miss.
Walsh, Mont.
Warren, Wyo.
Weeks, Mass.
West, Ga.
Works, Cal.
Committee on Com-

ANTI-TRUST LEGISLATION (H. R. 15657). C ongressional R ecord, P er­
manent B ound E dition , Oct. 5, 1914, page-16170.
The roll-call here given was on the acceptance of the conference report on this bill.
The conference of the two Houses had amended the bill by striking out all the crimi­
nal penalties.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of accepting the conference report.
A N a y vote was a vote against accepting the conference report.
The result was announced—yeas 35, nays 24, as follows:
YEAS—35.
Hughes, N. J.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Owen, Okla.
Smith, S. C.
Johnson, Me.
Bankhead, Ala.
P oindexter , Wash. Swanson, Va.
Kern, Ind.
Bryan, Fla.
Pomerene, Ohio
Thompson, Kans.
Lea, Tenn.
Camden, Ky.
Shafroth, Colo.
Thornton, La.
Lee, Md.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Sheppard, Tex.
Walsh, Mont.
Chilton, W. Va.
Martin, Va.
Shively, Ind.
West, Ga.
Culberson, Tex.
Myers, Mont.
immons, N. C.
White, Ala.
Fletcher, Fla.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Smith, Ariz.
Williams, Miss.
Hollis, N. H.
Overman, N. C.
Smith, Md.
NAYS—24.
Borah, Idaho
Jones, Wash.
Norris, Neb.
Root, N. Y.
Bristow, Kans,
Lane, Ore.'
Oliver, Pa.
Smith, Mich.
Burton, Ohio
McCumber, N. D. Page, Vt.
, Smoot, Utah
Clapp, Minn,
McLean, Conn.
Penrose, Pa,
Sterling, S. D.
du Pont, Del.
Marline, N. J.
Perkins, Cal.
Townsend, Mich.
Gronna, N. D.
Nelson, Minn.
Reed, Mo.
Warren, Wyo.
NOT VOTING—37.
Brady, Idaho
Fall, N. Mex.
Lodge, Mass.
Stone, Mo.
Brandegee, Conn.
Gallinger, N. H.
Newlands, Nev.
Sutherland, Utah
Burleigh, Me.
Goff, W. Va.
Pittman, Nev.
Thomas, Colo.
Catron, N. Mex.
Gore, Okla.
Ransdell, La.
Tillman, S. C.
Clark, Wyo.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Robinson, Ark.
Vardaman, Miss.
Clarke, Ark.
James, Ky.
Saulsbury, Del.
Weeks, Mass.
Colt, R. I.
Kenyon, Iowa
Sherman, 111.
Works, Cal.
Crawford, S. D.
La Follette, Wis.
Shields, Tenn.
Cummins, Iowa
Lewis, 111.
Smith, Ga.
Dillingham, Vt.
Lippitt, R. I.
Stephenson, Wis.
So the conference report was agreed to.
Senator James was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Smith, of Georgia, was absent. If present, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Stone was paired. If at liberty to vote, he would have voted Y e a .
Senator Kenyon was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
Senator Sherman was absent. If present, he would have voted N a y .
The roll-call on recommitting the bill with instructions to restore the criminal
penalties is given on page 16170 of the bound Congressional Record for October 5,
1914.




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<4FN C Y REVENUE BILL (H. R. 18891).
C ongressional R ecord,
P ermanent B ound E dition , Oct. 17, 1914, pages 16806-16807.

This was the bill popularly known as the " War Tax ” bill. It levied a tax on wines
and other spirituous liquors; on tobacco in various forms; on bankers brokers,
pawnbrokers^ commercial brokers, custom-house brokers proprietors of theatres,
museums and concert halls, circuses, public exhibitions of various kinds, bowling
allevs and billiard rooms, and on commission merchants; on commercial and legal
pape^ of v a r S t a d s , on certain telegraph and telephone messages and on chewing
gum and cosmetics of various kinds.
A Y ea vote was a vote in favor of the passage of this bill.
A N a y vote was a vote against the passage ol this bill.
The result was announced—yeas 34, nays 22, as follows.
Ashurst, Ariz.
Bankhead, Ala.
Bryan Fla.
Culberson, Tex.
Fletcher, Fla.
Hitchcock, Neb.
Hughes, N. J.
James, Ky.
Johnson, Me.

YEAS—34.
Saulsbury, Del.
Kern, Ind.
Shafroth, Colo.
Lea, Tenn.
Sheppard, Tex.
Lee, Md.
Shields, Tenn.
Lewis, 111.
Shively, Ind.
Martin, Ya.
Simmons, N. C.
Marline, N. J.
Smith, Md.
Myers, Mont.
Smith, S. C.
Overman, N. C.
Stone, Mo.
Pomerene, Ohio

Borah, Idaho
Bristow, Ivans.
Clapp, Minn.
Clark, Wyo.
du Pont, Del.
Jones, Wash.

NAYS—22.
Oliver, Pa.
Lane, Oi'e.
Page, Yt.
Lippitt, R. I.
McCumber, N. D. Perkins, Cal.
P oindexter , Wash.
McLean, Conn.
Root, N. Y.
Nelson, Minn.
Smith, Mich.
Norris, Neb.

NOT VOTING—40.
La Follette, Wis.
Crawford, S. D.
Brady, Idaho
Lodge, Mass.
Cummins, Iowa
Brandegee, Conn.
Newlands, Nev.
Dillingham, Vt.
Burleigh, Me.
O’Gorman, N. Y.
Fall, N. Mex.
Burton, Ohio
Gallinger, N. H.
Owen, Okla.
Camden, Ky.
Penrose, Pa.
Goff, W. Va.
Catron, N. Mex.
Gore, Okla.
Pittman, Nev.
Chamberlain, Ore.
Gronna, N. D.
Ransdell, La.
Chilton, W. Va.
Hollis, N. H.
Reed, Mo.
Clarke, Ark.
Ivenyon, Iowa
Robinson, Ark.
Colt, R. I.
So the bill was passed.




Swanson, Ya.
Thomas, Colo.
Thompson, Ivans.
Thornton, La.
Walsh, Mont.
West, Ga.
White, Ala.

Sterling, S. D.
Townsend, Mich.
Warren, Wyo.
Weeks, Mass.

Sherman, 111.
Smith, Ariz.
Smith, Ga.
Smoot, Utah
Stephenson, Wis.
Sutherland, Utah
Tillman, S. C.
Vardaman, Miss.
Williams, Miss.
Works, Cal.

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD INDEX.

495

YEA-AND-NAY VOTES IN HOUSE— Continued.
Public roads: on bill (II. R, 11686) providing for Federal aid
in construction and maintenance of, 3291.
Radium lands : on motion for change of reference o f joint reso­
lutions (H. J. Res. 185, 186) for withdrawal IrStn entry of,
1591.
Railroads: on bill (H. It. 16586) to regulate issusince of stocks
and bonds by, 9912.
Reclamation _Service’; on amendment to bill (S. -4628) extending
period of payment under reclamation' projects, 13010.
----------on
motion to recommit bill, 13012
M
Clerk ldre o f ItepVcsIuA’atives : on amendment to legislative approRivers and harbors appropriation bill (H. R.JkSftl
3 8 111v):- on amendnriation bill relating to, 6843.
v
ment
relating
to
appropriation
fg
improvjng harbor
Committee to notify President that Congress is,ready to adjourn:
at Vicksburg, .Miss., 5553.
4?
on resolution to appoint, 16942.
/
.
in
>-------- on amendment appropriating $5JTOO.OOO in lump sum,
Congressional Record : on motion to strike out certain woids in,
15931.
%,
ijr
Salaries of employees of (United States # o n amendment to legis­
Contested elections in H ouse: on case of Gpll v. Dyer, 10754,
lative appropriation bill, relating to Efites of, 6845
Senators : on resolution ts| instruct qfinferees on part of House
ConvieDmade0goods: on hill (H. R. 1933) -to regulate sale and
to insist upon amendments of Bou$fe to bill (S. 2860) relating
transportation of, 4301, 4302.
&
.
to election of, 9o87.
V
Cotton : on amendment to bill (S. 6398) providing for loan of
Special orders : on resoluticte (H # Res. 378) for special order
Government funds to cotton growers. 10894, 168Jo.
for
bill
(
IT.
R.
6060%
to. regulate immigration, 2593.
---------- on motion to recommit the national banking bill (S. 639a)
«—— —'on resolution (I-I. Rea. 437) for special order for bill
for an amendment providing t'4i* _loan of Government
(II. It. 145.S5) to ame^d act to regulate Panama Canal
funds to cotton growers, 10956, 16965.
, ,
tolls, 5618, 5619.
Cotton futures : on conference*report on -bill (S. 110) to regulate
r--------- on resolution (H. Real 521) for special order for bills
trading in, 12851.
|j ,
,
....
(H. It. 15613, lo65v, 1(6586) known as the antitrust
Cotton warehouses t on motion to suspend rules and pass Dili
bills, 8839.
\
(S. 6260) to license, 16190, 16210. P
----------on resolution (II. Res. 629) for special order for bill
Currency bill (II. R. 7837) : on amendment of Senate to, lc.07.
(H. R. 18891) levying wait, tax, 15646, 15647.
----------on motion to instruct conferees, 1314.
----------on resolution (H. Res. 630)5to make privileged the bill
----------on conference report on, 1464.
(H. It. 12741) providing %or treatment of radium­
Dams: on bill (H. R. 16053) to amend act to regulate construc­
bearing ores, 15799.
V
tion of, 13275.
. . . . -r-r -r>
Sundry civil appropriation bill (II. Kk 17041) : on amendment
Deflciencv appropriation b ill: on conference report on bill n . R.
increasing appropriation for vfche Geological Survey,
‘13612, 5541.
„„„„
11119.
\
----------on conference report on b ill H. R. 17824, 12890.
--------- on amendment of Senate relative wo proposed appropria­
---------- on motion to recede from disagreement of House to
tion for felief of fire sufferers ah, Salem, Mass., 11948.
amendment of Senate to- bill H. R. 17824 relative to
,------— on motion to recede from disagreement to Senate amend­
payment of certain claims of Army officers, 12o65. ,
ment .relative to drainage system M Hot Springs, Ark.,
Diplomatic and Consular Servic#;: on bill (S. 2318) authorizing
12444;
it
.----------on rmJSion to recede and concur in lS en a te amendment
appointment of envoys extraordinary and ministers pleni­
relative to construction of building far Government ex­
potentiary to Paraguay and Uruguay, 146.
.
,
hibit at Panama-Pacific International Imposition, 12454,
D istrict of Columbia: on bill (II. R. 9842 ) to require recital of
the real consideration in deeds to real estate In 2349.
lM o S , 12554.
^
Treaty off Ghent: on bill (H. R. 13922) to approve of celebra­
----------on bill (IT. It. 10523) ;$haking appropriation for, 1541.
tion o f one hundredth anniversary of signing of, 11326.
______ on bill (II. K. 1 2873Wrelating to assessment for taxation
Trusts s on bill (H. R. 15657) to supplement act to suppress,
of real estate in, S4f>5.
, ,
,
Emergency currency: on bill (S. 6192) providing for issue of,
■ 9911.
on conference report on bill (H. It. 15657) to supple­
13172.
£
. _ ,
ment act to suppress, 16344.
Fisheries treaty with Great Britain: on bill (S. 443 0 to give
W
a#risk
insurance: on bill (S. 6357) to establish bureau of,
effect to provisions of ascertain, 4,178.
___
,
F4449.
Horseshoe battle ground, A la.: on bill (H. R. 9 6 i l ) making ap­
W
tax:
on bill (H. R. 18891) levying, 15772.
propriation to erect monument on, 4170.
ater power: on bill (H. It. 16673) to provide for development
Immigration : on bill (HOB. 6060) to regulate, -910, 2911.
Indian appropriation bill (II. It. 12579): on amendment of
Whalevf Richard* S„ a Representative from South Carolina : on
Senate relative to proposed per capita payments to Choctaw,
resolution (II. Res. 356) to dismiss charges filed by John P.
Chickasaw, and Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma, 11938.
Grace against, 2392.
Kirby, Katharine; on i f solution (H. Res. 464) to pay, 6 8 m .
Leaves of absence in House : on resolution (II. Res. 601) ie\oK- YEA-AND-NAY VOTES IN SENATE, print yea-and-nay votes of Senate
on tariff bill of 1913 (S. Res. 429* ; S. Doc. 556).
Legislative, executive, and judicial appropriation bill (II. R.
Adjourn, 5238, 11843, 12026, 12307, 12424, 14794, 15794, 15795,
15279), 6842, 6843, 6844, 6845, 6848, 11412.
----------on amendment authorizing purchase of automobiles for
Agricultural appropriation bill (II. It. 13679) : on amendment
the Vice President and the Speaker of the House, 111J8,
making appropriation for purchase and distribution of
11 ‘>02
seeds, 8348.
.______ on amendment relating to appointment and compensation
---------- on amendment making appropriation for protection of
of an assistant to the Secretary of State, 11210.
migratory game and insectivorous birds, 8447, 8454.
^--------- on motion to reconsider vote on amendment relating to
destruction of prairie dogs, 8574.
i------ — on amendment relative to study of rural credits and
sanitation, 8652.
t--------- on amendment relating to grading, weigh in
and hanLighthouse Service: on motion to suspend rules andj)as: s the
dling of naval stores, 8655.
hill (S '-’8 76) to authorize aids to navigation m, 16183, 16188.
,--------- on amendment relating to ginning, balin
and handling
M exico: on jo ia U resolution (H . J. Res. 251) jUstHying employ­
of cotton, 8656.
ment by the president o f armed forces o f Lmted States in,
i--------- on amendment relating to ginning and handling of cotton, 8742, 8743.
MReage of Senators and Representatives: on amendments to
---------- on<amendment making appropriation for development of
live-stock production in cane-sugar and cotton districts
legislative appropriation bill relating' to, 684^.
of United States, 8958.
Naval appropriation bill (II. R. 14034), 8-66.^
n
-----------on amendment authorizing contracts foi
by the G
Alaska: on bill (S. 48) authorizing the President to construct
ernmc&t of dry docks at Hunters Point, San I r.ancisco,,
and operate railroads in, 2174, 2176, 2178, 2237 224?
2240. 2250, 4592.
’
,— ------on motion to discharge Committee on Mines and Minin"
--------—on amendment to increase cost of dry dock at naval sta­
from further consideration of bill (S. 4420) to pr
tion at 1’earl Harbor, Hawaii, 10562.
,
vide for leasing of coal lands In, 3S24.
---------- on amendment providing for sale of battleships Idaho
---------- on amendments to bill (H. R. 14233) to provide for lead­
and (Mississippi, 10971, 10972.
ing of coal lands in. 15683, 15687.
Naval construction programs: on resolution (II. Res. 2Jo) sa­
----------on point of order against the proviso in section 14 i
voring suspension for one year of, 480.
bill (H. R. 14233) providing for leasing of coal lam
Order of business, 310, 476, 2047, 2588, 3702, 3960, 4216, olSO,
in, 16407.
Ol6110 7101 9320, 9747, 10012, 10862, 11041. 12079, 13070,
13621 14110. 14330, 14997, 15406. 16861, 16898, 16955,
Appeal from decision of Chair, 6789, 6902, 12141, 15260
Panama Can at tolls: on bill (II. R. 14385) to amend act to regu­
Bureau of war-risk insurance : on amendment to bill (S 6357)
establish. 11085.
late 6087 6088, 10339, 10341.
Pennsylvania : on bill (H. R- 32) for appointment of an addi­
Commercial attaches, Department of Commerce ■ on amendmr
tional district judge in and for the eastern district of, 3222.
relating to appointment of, 10408.
Pensions -Ion bill (H- R. 10138) granting pensions and increase
Cooperative agricultural extension w ork : on bill (II. R. 7 9 '
providing for, 2744, 3124.
of pensions in specified cases, 81~.
.
_______ oil Mil (H. R. 13044) to pension widows and minor
.—------ on motion to recall from House the bill (II. R. 7951)
Children of officers and enlisted men who served in War
providing for, 7418.
iWitli Spain and the Philippine insurrection 6134.
---------- on motion to lay on table the motion to reconsider vote
----------<pi bill (H. It. 14546) granting pensions and increase of
agreeing to conference report on bill (11. it. 7951)
. pensions in specified eases, 5005.
providing for, 7494.
Philippine Islands: on bill (II. It. 184S9) to provide a more
Cotton
warehouses:
on amendments to bill (S. 6266) to license,
autonomoum government for, 16628, 16029.
14137, 14138, 14156, 14178.
Postal Service: on amendment to bill (H. It. 17042) to improve,
Currency
:
on
amendments
to bill (S. 6398) providing for issu­
13560, 13015.
ance of an emergency currency, 14907, 14908, 14979, 14988,
----------on motion to recommit bill, 13610.
14992.
Post Office appropriation bill (II. R. 11338), 2265.

YEA-AND-NAY VOTES TN HOESE-^Contiaued;.
Botanic Garden, Washington, D. C. . on hill (H. R. 1-iuu )
remove to Potomac Park, J3654.
Campaign funds : on bill (Ilf. R- 8428) providing for ciibUeity of
contributions and expenditures of, 11884,
) .
----------on resolution (II. Res. 2 5 6 ) relative to solicitation by
Members of Congress of contributions to, ;oool.
Children’s Bureau : on amendment to legislatives appropriation




The * in d ica tes b ills acted upon.

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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD INDEX

XEA-AND-NAY VOTES IN SENATE— Continued.
Currency : on amendments proposed to bill (H. R. 7837) to furnish
an elastic, 885, 906, 965, 1051, 1063, 1076, 1116, 1119,
1120, 1121, 1126, 1128, 1144, 1149, 1194, 1196, 1200,
1202, 1204, 1214, 1216, 1217, 1225, 1230.
>--------- on passage of bill, 12.30.
— ----- on conference report on, 1488.
Daniels, Winthrop More : on confirmation of nomination to be an
Interstate Commerce Commissioner, 6180.
Diplomatic and Consular appropriation bill (H. R. 15702) : on
amendment relative to designation of agent or counsel, United
States agency for arbitration of pecuniary claims between
United States and Great Britain, 10521.
District of Columbia appropriation bill (II. R. 10523) : on amend­
ment relative to erection of buildings for fish market,
4067.
f---------on amendment providing for purchase, care, and repair of
automobiles for the use of the District government,
4735, 4815, 4816.
i--------- on amendment making appropriation for Gallinger Hos­
pital, 4794.
--------- on amendment to fix price of gas in, 4807.
Executive session, 16926.
Federal trade commission: on conference report on bill (II. R.
15618) to create, 14796, 14797, 14802.
Glass, Frank P. ; on resolution (S. Res. 249) that he is uot
entitled to seat as Senator from Alabama, 2886.
Grain : on bill (S. 120) providing for inspection and grading of,
7557,
Hetch Hetchy Valley, Cal. : on bill (H. R. 7207) granting to city
and county of San Francisco, Cal., certain lands in, 383, 385.
Hour of meeting: on resolution (S. Res. 225) to meet daily at
10 o’clock a. m., 337.
Importation of convict-made goods: on bill (II. R. 14330) to
prohibit, 5651, 8638.
Indian appropriation bill (H. R. 12579) : on amendment to make
per capita payments to Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Chero­
kee Indians, 10673.
•--------- on amendment relative to tribal rights of Mississippi
Choctaw Indians, 11017.
*--------- on amendment relative to appropriation for benefit of
Indians on the Flathead Reservation, Mont., 11035,
11036.
----------on conference report on, 12610.
:--------- on motion to recede from amendment No. 82 relative to
water rights of Indians, 12617.
Interstate Trade Commission : on amendments to bill (H. R.
15613) to create, 12804, 12993, 13109, 13150, 13235,
13305, 13307, 13314, 13317.
--------- on passage of bill, 13319.
Kane, Thomas P. : on amendment making appropriation for
relief of, 10393.
Lee, Blair: on resolution (S. Res. 247) that he is entitled to
seat as Senator from Maryland, 2426.
Legislative, executive, and Judicial appropriation bill (II. II.
15279) : on amendment relative to commercial attaches
of Department of Commerce, 10457, 10460. 10467.
----------on amendment relative to mileage of Members of Con­
gress, 10459, 12013.
Liability of common carriers: on amendment to bill (S. 4522)
relating to, 9782.
Mexico : on Joint resolution (II. J. Res. 251) justifying the em­
ployment by the President of armed forces of United States
in, 7006, 7007, 7008, 7014.
Mileage of Members of Congress : on hill (S. 5884) to fix, 10584.
--------- on amendment to legislative appropriation bill (II. R.
15279) relating to, 10459, 12013.
Navy : on bill (S. 4247) to revive grade of vice admiral in, 3442.
--------- on bill (H. R. 14034) making appropriations for, 9462,
9528, 9641.
New York Central & Hudson River Railroad Co. : on resolution
of inquiry (S. Res. 382) relative to ownership of stock of
other railroads by, 9507.
New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad : on resolution of
inquiry (S. Res. 277) relative to reorganization of, 3885.
. Open executive sessions of Senate: on resolution (S. Res. 327)
favoring, 6327.
Order of business, 21, 755, 4137, 4138, 4140, 5085, 5217, 5223,
5517, 5518, 10156, 10161, 10730, 10762, 10763, 11288, 112S9,
11386, 11440, 11543, 11586, 11619, 11624, 11856, 11863, 11874,
12204, 12284, 12349, 12355, 12414, 12422, 12467, 12484, 12539
12786, 14771, 14772, 14785, 14786, 15567, 15664.
Panama Canal t o lls : on amendments relating to exemption of
American coastwise vessels from payment of, 10158.
10162, 10174, 10210, 10225, 10228, 10240, 10247.
— ----- on passage of bill (II. R. 14385) to amend act to regu­
late, 10247.
--------- on resolution of inquiry (S. Res. 323) relative to, 6327.
Pensions: on bill (S. 4352) granting pensions and increase of
pensions in specified cases, 5579.
Points of order in Senate : on point of order against interruption
of a Senator occupying the floor if objection were made, 15327
Post Office appropriation bill (H. It. 11338) : on amendment
relating to weight limits and rates of postage on fourthclass mail matter, 4011.
--------- on amendments limiting to 50 pounds the weight of
fourth-class mail matter, 4017, 4023, 4092.
Recess, 13927, 16926.
Republic Coal Co.: on joint resolution (S. ,T. Res. 41) authorizin'*
sale or lease of public lands to, 5355, 5461, 5472 5774
®
River and harbor appropriation bill (II. R. 13811) : on motion
to lay on table the motion to recommit, 15336, 15337
15338.
--------- on motion to recommit, 15475.
------- —on amendment for appointment of commission to investi­
gate claims for damages to property on Mississippi
River, 15521.
--------- -on amendment relating to Trinity River, Tex., 15467.
Senators: on bill (S. 2860) providing temporary method of con­
ducting nomination and election of, 3260, 3332.
--------- on resolution (S. Res. 156) limiting expenditures for
telegrams sent and received by, 5910, 5912, 5922, 6109.




YEA-AND-NAY VOTES IN SENATE— Continued.
Silver bullion : on bill (S. 6201) to purchase, 14127
Sundry civil appropriation bill (H. R. 17041) • on
,
decreasing relating to appropriation for Comrni«5ifll,Qeilt
Industrial Relations, 11701.
commission on
--------- on motion to reconsider amendment relatin'* tr,
tions for Panama-Pacific International Exnositim,1’0?-,1’1*1'
on amendment making appropriation for eiwtim? ’i 17s)mori
lorial to Thomas Macdonough, 11788
L°n °* moon amendment relative to payment of expenses
struction of Panama Canal, 11702.
P ses
conon amendments relative to exemption of labor arm r
organizations from operation of the antitrn *ar,mer
11805, 11806.
antitrust law,
Trusts: on amendment to bill (H. R. 15657) to sunnlemont
to suppress, 13858, 13907, 13964, 14088, 1 4 2 7 ?
14274, 14319, 14321, 14329, 14330, 14331 1441 7 ’ i f ? 7'5.
14420, 14450, 14462, 14463, 14467 1447:’,’, 1447ft’
14527, 14528, 14530, 14532, 14534, 14543, 1454 6
14506, 14507, 14598, 14602, 14600, 14607
145°°•--------- on passage of bill, 14610.
--------- on motion to recommit with instructions the on
report on the Clayton antitrust bill, 16170.le ience
------ — on adoption^ of conference report on the Clayton antitrust
Unanimous-consent agreem ents: on resolution (S, Res ooos
amend rules relative to requiring presence of cii'miaOw ■
making, 1759.
uuoium U1
United States Steel Corporation: on resolution (S. Res 0411
hivestij*ate relative to proposed prosecution of, 1557 “ 2707
Vessels: on bill (II. R. 18202) to grant American ree-isfi-^ ,
foreign-built vessels. 13839, 13S40.
K btry to
•--------- on amendments to bill (H. R. 18202) to grant Amevi™,.
registry to foreign-built vessels, 13592, 13603 i S ?
13613.
’
War tax : on amendment to bill (II. R. 18891) relating to
ficatiou of sweet wines, 16703.
olt1'
>--------- on amendment relating to production and marketing *
cotton, 10791.
s 01
------- —on amendment to refund to certain States the cotton
of 1862, 16793.
'
n tax
--------- on amendment increasing the income tax, 16802, 16805
--------- - on motion to indefinitely postpone bill, 16801.
----------on passage of bill (H. R. 18891) levying, 16806
Woman suffrage: on joint resolution (S. J. Res. 1) for'amen a
ment to Constitution to provide for, 5106, 5107 si/io'
to refer joi nt resolution (S. J. Res. 128) ^
—------- on . motion
—
Committee on Judiciary, 5163.
YEAGER, JOEL, pension (see bills S. 1696, 4845*).
YEAGER, WILLIAM G., pension (see bill II. R. 14268).
YEARSLEY, RUBEN S., letter relative to construction of $am aor<i«a
I’end Oreille River, Idaho, 12134.
,/
Wbs
YELLOW-FEVER, memorial of Reginald B. Leach relative to arseniza
tion method of preventing, referred, 3653.
YELLOW RIVER, FLA., report of Secretary of War 'on survey of m
Doc. 650), 2218.
f
u lYELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, amend acfe’H o protect birds an.i
animals and to punish crimes in (see hill S. 3864).
a
Remarks in House relative to appropriations for widenin'*
improving roads in, 10794.
s ina
YELTON, ANNIE E., increase pension (searoill S. 6669).
YEOMANS, ABRAHAM J., increase pensjbn (see bill S. 5422).
YOAKUM, B. F., letter relative to issuA of stocks and bonds of rail
roads'written by, 0801.
,
*"
YOE, PHILIP, increase pension (see bill H. R. 18811).
YOHUM, MARY ANNA, increase pension (see bill H. R. 16735).
YONGUE, WILLIAM S., relief ( 3# bill II. R. 10119).
YONKER, JO H N,pension (see l)Ms S. 1082, 4261*).
YORK, AUGUSTUS^, relief (see&Cills H. R. 17080, 17132).
Y O R K , C A S W E L L , -increase p e n s io n (see b i ll H. R. 1 4 7 1 3 ) .
YORK, JOSEPH IA increase) pension (see bill H. R. 12654).
YORK, RICHARD B„ increase pension (sec bill H. R. 13970*).
YORK COUNTY", S. C., rusef of storm sufferers in (see II. J. Res 000
313).
#
YORK HARBOR, ME., survey of (see H. Res. 368).
YORK RIVER, VA., amendment in Senate for survey of, 7605.
YORKTOWN, VA., amendment in Senate making appropriation to con
struct road to national cemetery at, 7605.
YORTY, JACOB C,» pension (see bills S. 733, 4168*).
YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK, CAL., amend act relative to patent...1
_ lands by (see bill S. 4943*).
U1
Bill re la ve to leasing privileges for hotels in (see bill H. r
1604
Bill for elimination of private holdings within (see bill H II.
125jp3*).
YOUGHIOCfflENY RIVER, PA., improve (see bills H. R. 11907,
13553).
B ilf for survey of (see bill II. R. 16242).
YOUNfir'ALBERT, increase pension (see bill H. R. 13349).
YOUNGS, BERTHA, pension (see bill IT. It. 14872).
YOUNG, BERTHA S„ pension (see hill H. R. 17075).
YOUNG, CHRISTIANNA, increase pension (sec hills H. R. 10679,
11269*).
YOUNG, ELLEN, relief of estate (see bill H. R. 13732).
YOUNG, EMMA C., pension (see bill S. 3725).
YOUNG, EMSEY O., increase pension (see bill H. R. 10138*).
YOUNG, FREDERICK J., increase pension (see bills S. 5396, 557
YOUNG, GEORGE G., increase pension (see bill S. 4768).

The * indicates bills acted upon.

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C O N G R E SSIO N A L RECORE
PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE SIXTY-THIRD CONGRESS.
SECOND SESSION.
SEN ATE.

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M r. S M O O T . I d e s ir e to a n n o u n c e t h a t t h e s e n io r S en fr o m D e la w a r e [M r. d u P o n t ] i s u n a v o id a b ly d e t a in e d f
t h e S e n a te .
M o n d a y , December 1, 1913.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . E ig h t y - o n e S e n a t o r s h a v e a n s w i
T h e fir s t M o n d a y in D e c e m b e r b e in g t h e d a y p r e s c r ib e d b y t o t h e r o ll c a ll. A q u o r u m o f t h e S e n a t e i s p r e s e n t,
l ist of senators .
t h e C o n s t it u t io j i o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s f o r t h e a n n u a l m e e t in g o f
T h e l i s t o f S e n a to r s b y S t a t e s i s a s f o l l o w s :
C o n g r e s s , t h e s e c o n d s e s s io n o f t h e S ix t y - t h ir d C o n g r e s s c o m ­
Alabam a —-J o h n H . B a n k h e a d .
m en ced on th is day.
Arizona— H e n r y F . A s h u r s t a n d M a r c u s A . S m it h .
T h e S e n a te a s s e m b le d in i t s C h a m b e r a t t h e C a p ito l.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T ( T h o m a s R . M a r sh al l , of I n d ia n a )
A rkansas — J a n ie s P . C la r k e a n d J o e T . R o b in s o n '
California— G e o r g e C. P e r k in s a n d J o h n D . W o r k s .
to o k t h e c h a ir a n d c a lle d t h e S e n a t e to o r d e r a t 1 2 o ’c lo c k n o o n .
T h e C h a p la in , R e v . F o r r e s t J . P r e t t y m a n , D . D ., o ffe r e d t h e
Colorado — J o h n F . S h a f r o t h a n d C h a r le s S. T h o m a s .
Connecticut — F r a n k B . B r a n d e g e e a n d G e o r g e P . M c L e a n
f o llo w in g p r a y e r :
A lm ig h t y C o d , a cc o r d in g - t o o u r a n c ie n t c u s t o m w e c o m e to
D elaw are— H e n r y A . d u P o n t a n d W illa r d S a u ls b u r v .
T h ee. O ur fa th e r s w e r e m en o f p ra y er, a n d o u t o f th e reso u rces
Florida — N a t h a n P . B r y a n a n d D u n c a n U . F le t c h e r .
o f T h y g r a c e t h e y r e c e iv e d w i sd o m t o g u id e t h e m in la y i n g t h e
Georgia — A u g u s t u s O. B a c o n a n d H o k e S m ith .
f o u n d a t io n o f t h i s g r e a t N a t io n . I n e v e r y t im e o f s t r e s s a n d
Idaho — W illia m E . B o r a h a n d J a m e s H . B r a d y .
s to r m T h y p e o p le h a v e g o n e t o T h e e f o r g u id a n c e , f o r p r o te c ­
Illinois — J a m e s H a m ilt o n L e w is a n d L a w r e n c e Y. S h e r m a n
t io n , a n d f o r b le s s in g . W h e n t h e N a t io n w a s b o r n , i t w a s b o r n
Indiana — J o h n W . K e r n a n d B e n j a m in F . S h iv e ly .
Iow a — A lb e r t B . C u m m in s a n d W illia m S. K e n y o n .
in p r a y e r . I n t h e d a y s o f d iffic u lty a n d m y s t e r y a n d d a r k n e s s
K ansas — J o s e p h L . B r is t o w a n d W illia m PI. T h o m p s o n .
u n c e a s in g p r a y e r w a s m a d e , a n d in t h i s la r g e r d a y o f p e a c e a n d
K en tu ck y — W illia m 0 . B r a d le y a n d O llie M . J a m e s .
p r o s p e r ity w e s t i l l c o m e a s k in g t h a t T h o u w i l t t e a c h u s h o w to
Louisiana — J o s e p h E . R a n s d e ll a n d J o h n R . T h o r n to n .
f o l lo w t h e a r t s o f p e a c e w it h t h e s a m e s u c c e s s a s o u r f a t h e r s
Maine — E d w in C. B u r le ig h a n d C h a r le s F . J o h n s o n .
la id t h e f o u n d a t io n s o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t a n d le d u s o n to t h i s
Maryland — W illia m P . J a c k s o n a n d J o h n W a lt e r S m ith .
m o m e n t.
M assachusetts — H e n r y C a b o t L o d g e a n d J o h n W . W e e k s .
W e p r a y t h a t in f a c i n g t h e in c r e a s in g p r o b le m s o f t h i s g r e a t
M ichigan — W illia m A ld e n S m it h a n d C h a r le s E . T o w n s e n .
N a t io n a t t h e b e g in n in g o f t h i s n e w s e s s io n o f t h e S e n a te t h e
M innesota — M o s e s E . C la p p a n d K n u te N e ls o n .
c o n s c io u s p o w e r a n d p r e s e n c e o f G o d m a y b e f e l t a n d t h a t
M ississippi — J o h n S h a r p W illia m s a n d J a m e s K . V a r d a n
e v e r y S e n a to r in t h i s h o n o r a b le b o d y m a y r e a liz e t h a t h is f ir s t
M issouri — J a m e s A . R e e d a n d W illia m J . S to n e .
a n d h ig h e s t o b lig a t io n i s to G od.
Montana — H e n r y L . M y e r s a n d T h o m a s J . W a ls h .
B l e s s u s in a l l o u r l i f e w o r k . B l e s s o u r la n d a n d N a t io n w it h
Nebraska
— G ilb e r t M . H itc h c o c k a n d G e o r g e W . N o r r is .
c o n t in u e d p e a c e a n d p r o s p e r ity . A n d w e p r a y t h a t o n w a r d w e
Nevada — F r a n c i s G. N e w la n d s a n d K e y P it t m a n .
m a y g o a s a n e v a n g e l a m o n g t h e n a t io n s o f t h e e a r t h , b r in g in g
New H am pshire — J a c o b II. G a llin g e r a n d H e n r y F . H o llis .
e v e r y w h e r e to o u r s p h e r e o f in flu e n c e p e a c e a n d g o o d w i l l a m o n g
New J ersey — W illia m H u g h e s a n d J a m e s E . M a r tin e .
m e n . F o r C h r is t ’s s a k e . A m e n .
N ew M exico — T h o m a s B . C a tr o n a n d A lb e r t B . F a ll.
C A L L IN G OF T H E RO LL.
N ew Y ork— J a m e s A . O ’G o r m a n a n d E liliu R o o t.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h a t i t m a y b e a s c e r t a in e d w h e t h e r
North Carolina — L e e S . O v e r m a n a n d F . M . S im m o n s .
a c o n s t it u t io n a l n u m b e r o f S e n a t o r s a r e p r e s e n t f o r t h e t r a n s ­
N orth D akota — A s le J . G r o n n a a n d P o r te r J . M e C u m b e r .
a c t io n o f b u s in e s s , t h e S e c r e t a r y w i l l c a ll t h e r o ll.
.
Ohio — -T h eo d o re E . B u r t o n a n d A t le e P o m e r e n e .
T h e S e c r e t a r y c a lle d t h e r o ll a n d t h e f o llo w in g S e n a t o r s ' 1' Oklahom a — T h o m a s P . G o r e a n d R o b e r t L . O w e n .
Oregon — G e o r g e E . C h a m b e r la in a n d H a r r y L a n e .
a n s w e r e d to t h e ir n a m e s
Smith, S. C.
Overman
Goff
Pennsylvania — G e o r g e T . O liv e r a n d B o ie s P e n r o s e .
Ashurst
Smoot
Owen
Gore
Bacon
R hode Island — L e B a r o n B . C o lt a n d H e n r y F . L ip p it t.
Stephenson
Page
Gronna
Bankhead
Sterling
South Carolina — E llis o n D . S m it h a n d B e n j a m in It. T illm a n .
Pen rose
Hollis
Borah
Stone
Perkins
Hughes
South D akota — C o e I . C r a w f o r d a n d T h o m a s S te r lin g .
Bradley
Sutherland
Pittman
James
Brady
T en nessee — L u k e L e a a n d J o h n K . S h ie ld s .
Swanson
Poindexter
Johnson
Brandegee
Thomas
T exas — C h a r le s A . C u lb e r s o n a n d M o r r is S h e p p a r d .
Pomerene
Kenyon
Bristow
Thompson
Ransdell
U t a h — R e e d S m o o t a n d G e o r g e S u th e r la n d .
Kern
Bryan
Thornton
Reed
La Follette
Burleigh
Verm ont — W illia m P . D illin g h a m a n d C a r r o ll S. P a g e .
Tillman
Robinson
Lane
Burton
Virginia — T h o m a s S . M a r t in a n d C la u d e A . S w a n s o n .
Townsend
Root
Chamberlain
Lewis
Vardaman
Saulsbury
W ashington — W e s le y L . J o n e s a n d M ile s P o in d e x t e r .
MeCumber
Chilton
Walsh
Slmfroth
McLean
Clapp
W est Virginia — W illia m E . C h ilto n a n d N a t h a n G off.
Warren
Sheppard
Martin, Va.
Clark, Wyo.
W isconsin — R o b e r t M . L a F o ll e t t e a n d I s a a c S te p h e n s o n .
Weeks
Sherman
Martine, N. J.
Clarke, Ark.
Williams
Shields
- W yom ing — C la r e n c e D . C la r k a n d F r a n c is E . W a r r e n .
Myers
Colt
Works
Shively
Nelson
Cummins
n o t if ic a t io n to t h e i io u -s e .
Simmons
Newlands

Dillingham
du Pont
Gallinger

Norris
O’Gorman
- —

Smith, Ariz.
Smith, Ga.

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Mr SH E PPA R D .
M y c o lle a g u e , t h e s e n io r S e n a to r fr o m
T e x a s rM r. C ul be r so n ], i s u n a v o id a b ly a b s e n t . H e i s p a ir e d
w i t h t h e S e n a to r fr o m D e l a w a r e [ M i. n u I o n i ].
d in s a n ­
n o u n cem e n t m a y sta n d fo r th e day.
a ir . W E E K S .
I w is h to a n n o u n c e t h a t m y c o lle a g u e [M r.
L odge] i s a b s e n t o n a c c o u n t o f i l l n e s s a n d to h a v e t h i s a n ­
n o u n c e m e n t s t a n d f o r t h e d a y . H e i s p a ir e d w it h t h e j u n io r
S e n a t o r fr o m G e o r g ia [M r . S m i t h ],
M r. B R Y A N . M y c o lle a g u e [M r . F letch er ] i s u n a v o id a b ly
a b s e n t . H e i s p a ir e d w it h t h e s e n io r S e n a to r fr o m W y o m in g
[M r . W a r r e n ] .




M r. B A C O N s u b m itt e d t h e f o llo w in g r e s o lu t io n ( S . R e s . 2 2 3 ) ,
w h ic h w a s r e a d , c o n s id e r e d b y u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t , a n d a g r e e d to :
R esolved , T h at the Secretary inform the H ou se of R ep resen tatives
th at a quorum of the Senate is assem bled and- th a t the Senate is ready
to proceed to business.
NOTIFICATION to t h e president .
M r. K E R N s u b m itt e d t h e f o l lo w in g r e s o lu t io n ( S . R e s . 2 2 4 ) ,
w h ic h w a s r e a d , c o n s id e r e d b y u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t , a n d a g r e e d to :
R esolv ed , T h at a com m ittee co n sistin g of tw o S enators be appointed
to join such com m ittee a s m ay be appointed by the H ouse of Repre­
se n ta tiv es to w a it upon the P resid en t of the U nited S ta tes and inform
him th at a quorum of each H ouse is assem bled, and th a t Congress is
ready to receive any com m unication he m ay be pleased to make.

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H O U R OF D A I L Y M E E T IN G .

M r. K E R N . M r. P r e s id e n t, I m o v e t h e a d o p tio n o f t h e f o l ­
lo w in g r e s o lu tio n .
T h e r e s o lu tio n ( S . R e s . 2 2 5 ) w a s r e a d , a s f o llo w s :
R esolved, That the hour of daily meeting of the Senate be 10 o clock
a. m. until otherwise ordered.

M r. G A L L IN G E R .
M r. P r e s id e n t, I f e e l lik e a p p e a lin g to
t h e S e n a to r fr o m I n d ia n a a n d h is c o lle a g u e s to le t t h e s e s s io n s
b e g in a t t h e u s u a l h o u r o f 12 o ’c lo c k fo r th e p r e s e n t. T h e r e d o e s
n o t s e e m to m e to b e a n y a c tu a l n e c e s s it y f o r so e a r ly a m e e tin g
a s 10 o ’c lo c k a t t h e p r e s e n t t im e — t h is w e e k , f o r in s t a n c e . I
t h in k th e r e w ill b e no o b je c tio n to h a v in g e a r lie r s e s s io n s a f t e r
a l i t t l e w h ile .
I w ill s a y to t h e S e n a to r fr o m I n d ia n a t h a t th e r e lia s b e e n n o
c o n fe r e n c e o f t h e m in o r ity oh t h i s m a tte r a t a ll. I f e e l s u r e
th e r e is no d is p o s it io n to o b s tr u c t t h e e a r ly p a s s a g e o f t h e c u r ­
r e n c y b ill, b u t i t w o u ld b e a g r e e a b le , I k n o w , to s o m e o f u s — it
w o u ld b e to m e p e r s o n a lly — i f w e c o u ld h a v e t h e m e e tin g a t t h e
u su a l h ou r fo r th e p resen t w eek .
M r. K E R N . M r. P r e s id e n t, in v ie w o f t h e u r g e n t d e m a n d s
t h a t a r e c o m in g fr o m a ll q u a r te r s t h a t t h e b u s in e s s o f t h e S e n ­
a t e sh o u ld b e h a ste n e d , i t h a s b e e n th o u g h t i t w o u ld be b e tte r
t h a t w e sh o u ld h a v e t h e d a ily s e s s io n s b e g in a t 3 0 o ’c lo c k in
t h e m o r n in g . I t i s t r u e t h a t t h e r e i s a s p e c ia l o r d e r f o r t h is
w e e k , h u t t h e c h a ir m a n o f t h e C o m m itte e on B a n k in g a n d C u r­
r e n c y h a s a lr e a d y g iv e n n o tic e t h a t h e d e s ir e s to p r e s s th e c o n ­
s id e r a tio n o f t h e b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y h ill a t a ll t im e s d u r in g
t h is w e e k w h e n t h e S e n a te i s n o t o c c u p ie d w it h t h e c o n s id e r a ­
tio n o f t h e p le t c h H e t c h y b ill. A n h o u r w ill b e ta k e n in th e
t r a n s a c t io n o f r o u tin e b u s in e s s , a n d it r e a lly m e a n s t h e m e e tin g
o f t h e S e n a te a t 11 o ’c lo ck .
W h ile , o f c o u r s e , I w o u ld b e g la d to a c c o m m o d a te S e n a to r s on
t h e o th e r sid e , w e h a v e f e lt , a n d it s e e m s t o b e t h e u n a n im o u s
s e n tim e n t o n t h i s sid e , t h a t t h e h o u r o f m e e tin g sh o u ld h e fix e d
a t 30 o ’c lo c k .
M r. G A L L IN G E R . T h e n , I w ill m a k e a f u r th e r s u g g e s t io n to
t h e S e n a to r fr o m I n d ia n a . I t i s t h a t t h e m a tt e r b e c o m p r o ­
m ise d , a n d t h a t f o r t h e p r e s e n t w e e k t h e h o u r o f m e e tin g s h a ll
b e 1 1 o ’clo ck . A S e n a to r h a s a g r e a t d e a l o f w o r k to d o , m e e t­
in g s o f c o m m it t e e s to a tte n d , a n d c o r r e sp o n d e n c e t h a t h e m u s t
lo o k a f te r . I fe e l s u r e t h a t i f t h e S e n a to r s on t h e o t h e r s id e
w ill a c c e d e to th is , th e r e w i l l b e n o d e la y in t h e t r a n s a c t io n o f
t h e p u b lic b u s in e s s .
M r. K E R N . M r. P r e s id e n t , i f i t w e r e a p e r s o n a l m a tt e r w it h
m y s e lf , I m ig h t e n t e r t a in t h e p r o p o s itio n o f c o m p r o m is e w h ic h
c o m e s, I k n o w , in t h e p r o p e r s p ir it fr o m S e n a to r s o n t h e o t h e r
sid e , b u t I c a n n o t s p e a k f o r m y s e lf in t h e m a tte r , ancl u n til
o t h e r w is e a r r a n g e d I h o p e t h e r e w i l l b e n o o b je c tio n t o t h e
o r d e r a s I h a v e p r o p o se d it.
M r. G A L L IN G E R , T h e n I m o v e to a m e n d t h e r e s o lu tio n b y
s u b s t it u t in g 11 o ’c lo c k f o r 10 o ’c lo ck .
M r. B A C O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , in o r d e r to a v o id a n is s u e o f
t h a t k in d I w ill t a k e t h e lib e r ty , w it h t h e c o n s e n t o f t h e S e n a to r
fr o m I n d ia n a , to in q u ir e o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e
w h e t h e r i t is t h e p u r p o s e o f S e n a to r s o n t h e o t h e r s id e to h o ld
a c o n fe r e n c e to -d a y ? T h e S e n a to r s p o k e o f t h e f a c t t h a t t h e y
h a d h a d n o o p p o r tu n ity f o r a c o n fe r e n c e .
M r. G A L L IN G E R . I w ill s im p ly s a y t h a t I f e e l s u r e t h a t
w it h in a d a y o r t w o t h e m in o r it y w i l l h a v e a b r ie f c o n f e r e n c e .
W e h a v e n o t h a d a n y c o n fe r e n c e , n o t k n o w in g w h a t t h e p r o ­
g r a m w a s to b e, a n d i t w a s n e v e r s t a t e d to u s u n t il t h i s m o r n in g .
M r. B A C O N . A s w e d o n o t d e s ir e to h a v e a n is s u e m a d e
h e r e u p o n w h ic h th e r e w o u ld b e a lin e d r a w n , in v ie w o f t h e
f a c t t h a t t h e o t h e r s id e o f t h e C h a m b e r i s n o t n o w p r e p a r e d to
h o ld a- c o n f e r e n c e , I w ill s u g g e s t to t h e S e n a to r t h a t t h i s o r d e r
s t a n d u n til t h e y h a v e a c o n fe r e n c e , a n d t h e n su c h s u g g e s t io n a s
t h e S e n a to r m a y m a k e a s a r e s u lt o f t h e c o n fe r e n c e , o f c o u r s e ,
w o u ld c o m e in a n a t t it u d e t h a t w o u ld e n t it le i t to c o n s id e r a tio n .
M r. G A L L IN G E R . I t h in k t h e u s u a l c u s t o m o u g h t to s ta n d
u n til th e r e se e m s to be a n e c e s s it y f o r a c h a n g e . I a m q u ite
w illin g p e r s o n a lly , a n d I t h in k I s p e a k f o r m y a s s o c ia t e s o n t h i s
s id e o f t h e C h a m b e r, t h a t w e sh o u ld m e e t a t 11 o ’c lo c k f o r t h e
p r e s e n t, a n d t h e m a tt e r o f m e e tin g e a r lie r c a n b e c o n s id e r e d
la t e r on.
M r. R O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r f r o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e y ie ld to th e S e n a to r fr o m N e w Y o r k ?
M r. G A L L IN G E R . I do.
M r. R O O T . I w is h to a s k t h e S e n a to r fr o m I n d ia n a w h e t h e r
i t i s a p a r t o f t h e p u r p o se w it h w h ic h t h i s o r d e r i s p r o p o s e d
t h a t t h e r e s h a ll h e n o m e e tin g s o f c o m m it t e e s o f t h e S e n a te ? I
a s k t h is b e c a u s e i t i s m a n if e s t ly im p o s s ib le t h a t t h e o r d in a r y
w o r k o f c o m m itte d s o f t h e S e n a te s h a ll p r o c e e d i f t h e S e n a te




D e c e m b e r 1,

i s to meet a t 10 o ’c lo c k , a n d it w i l l p r o d u c e a v e r y differen ir e s u lt if t h e c o m m it t e e s a r e n o t t o m e e t. If w e are to m e e t a t
1 0 o ’c lo c k in o r d e r t h a t t h e M e m b e r s o f t h e S e n a te m a y j )0
t h e ir p la c e s to p r o c e e d w it h t h e d is c u s s io n o f t h e c u r r e n c y b ill
o r o f o th e r m e a s u r e s o f im p o r ta n c e , to h a v e d ft r e a l d is c u s s io n
in w h ic h t h e r e s h a ll b e a r g u m e n t a d d r e s s e d t o t h e M e m b e r s o f
t h e S e n a te a s a d e lib e r a t iv e b o d y , t h a t i s one th in g , a n d I w
o n e a m w illin g to p u t m y s e lf to p e r s o n a l in c o n v e n ie n c e fo r th e
p u r p o s e o f f a c ilit a t in g t h a t p r o c e d u r e b u t . s ir , i f w e a re to
m e e t a n d h a v e t h e M e m b e r s o f t h e S e n a te im m e d ia t e ly a f t e r th e
s e s s io n b e g in s s c a tt e r to t h e ir r e s p e c t iv e c o m m it t e e r o o m s fo r
t h e p u r p o se o f c o n d u c tin g t h e n e c e s s a r y b u s in e s s w h ic h i s c o n ­
d u c te d in c o m m itte e s , le a v in g a n a r m y o f e m p ty s e a t s a n d S e n a ­
t o r s s p e a k in g t o t h e e m p ty a ir , w it h n o r e s u lt o f t h e ir s p e a k in g
e x c e p t t h a t t h e ir w o r d s s h a ll b e f )r lu te d in t h e R e c o r d next-__ i f
t h e r e s u lt b e t h a t S e n a to r s slusU a b s e n t t h e m s e lv e s fr o m th e
S e n a te C h a m b e r a n d t h e r e stfa ll b e n o d is c u s s io n r e a lly a d ­
d r e s s e d to t h e ir in te llig e n c e , t o t h e ir c o n s c ie n c e a n d t h e w isd o m
a n d p u b lic s p ir it o f S en a to r ^ , t h is i s a n id le fo r m , a n d w e o u g h t
n o t in d u lg e in it.
M r. B O R A H .
M r. P r e s id e n t , I w a s g o in g to m a k e a n o th e r
s u g g e s t io n t h a t p o ss ib ly -•m ig h t h e a c c e p t a b le to S e n a to r s on th e
m a jo r it y sid e . I t i s t h a t t h i s o r d e r b e n o t f o r m a lly p r e s e n te d
u n til to -m o r r o w . Thgjr'e h a s b e e n n o o p p o r tu n it y t o k n o w what
t h e p r o g r a m is to h e n a o r h o w it i s to b e a c t e d u p o n . I t m ig h t
h e t h a t b y to -m o r r o w t h e m a tt e r c o u ld b e a d ju s te d w it h o u t a
lo n g -c o n tin u e d c o n tr o v e r s y in r e g a r d to it .
M r. S M O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t , I s h o u ld lik e a ls o t o c a ll a t te n ­
t io n t o t h e f a c t f e a t fr o m th e n e w s p a p e r r e p o r ts w e u n d e r s ta n d
t h e r e a r e a n u m b e r o f c h a n g e s t o b e m a d e in t h e c u r r e n c y b ill
t h a t h a v e bjjjpn a g r e e d u p o n b y t h e D e m o c r a t ic c a u c u s . N o n e
o f the' S e n a to r s o n t h i s s id e k n o w w h a t t h o s e a m e n d m e n t s a re.
T h e y h a v e , n o t h a d a c h a n c e to s t u d y th e m . 1 d o n o t b e lie v e it
i s g o in g t o h a s t e n th e c o n s id e r a tio n o f t h e b ill o n e d a y t o h a v e
a m e e tin g a t 10 o ’c lo c k b e fo r e w e h a v e h a d t im e to e x a m in e th e
b ill a n d t h e a m e n d m e n ts .
S ir. B A C O N . T h e S e n a to r w i l l n o t o v e r lo o k t h e f a c t t h a t w e
h a v e a u n a n im o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t f o r t h e c o n s id e r a tio n o f a
b ill t h a t is g o in g to t a k e u p a la r g e p a r t o f t h e t im e d u r in g t h is
w eek.
M r. S M O O T . I d o n o t t h in k t h a t is g o in g to t a k e a ll t h e t im e
t h is w e e k , M r. P r e s id e n t . 1 w a s g o in g to s a y t o t h e S e n a to r
a n o th e r th in g . S o f a r a s I am c o n c e r n e d , t h e r e i s n o t a S e n a to r
in t h is b o d y w h o w a n t s to v o te u p o n t h e c u r r e n c y b i l l a t a n
e a r lie r d a t e t h a n I d o . I f e e l t h e n e c e s s it y o f a m e a s u r e th e
s a m e a s e v e r y o t h e r S e n a to r in t h is C h a m b e r . T h e b u s in e s s
in t e r e s t s o f t h e c o u n tr y w a n t a n e a r ly d is p o s it io n o f t h e b ill,
a n d i f th e r e i s a d is p o s it io n on t h e p a r t o f t h e m a j o r it y o f th e
S e n a te t o g iv e a n d t a k e in t h i s m a tt e r a n d l e t u s h a v e t im e to
s t u d y t h e a m e n d m e n ts , a n d w h e n e v e r a S e n a to r s p e a k s l e t h im
s p e a k d ir e c t ly to t h e p o in t, I b e lie v e t h a t t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e
h ill w ill b e h a s te n e d . I h o p e S e n a t o r s o n t h e o t h e r s f d e ca n
g r a n t, a t le a s t, t h e r e q u e s t t h a t w a s m a d e h e r e b y t h e S e n a to r
fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e .
M r. B R A N D E G E E . M r. P r e s id e n t ------M r. G A L L IN G E R . I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o n n e c tic u t.
M r. B R A N D E G E E . I r is e fo r th e p u r p o s e o f m a k in g a p a r ­
lia m e n t a r y in q u ir y o f t h e C h a ir . I f I u n d e r s to o d t h e S e n a to r
fr o m I n d ia n a c o r r e c tly , h e a s k e d u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t f o r t h e
p r e s e n t c o n s id e r a tio n o f t h e r e s o lu tio n ?
M r. G A L L IN G E R . Y es.
M r. K E R N . A n d t h a t r e q u e s t w a s g r a n te d .
M r. B R A N D E G E E .
I d is lik e to in te r p o s e a n o b je c tio n to
u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t a t p r e s e n t t o t h a t k in d o f a r e s o lu tio n , a n d
y e t i t i s e v id e n t t h a t i t c o m e s a t a t im e w h e n a ll S e n a t o r s are
n o t f u l l y p r e p a r e d to c o n s id e r t h e q u e s tio n . I w o u ld lik e v e r y
m u c h i f t h e S e n a to r w o u ld d e f e r u n til to -m o r r o w t h e p r e s e n ta ­
t io n o f h is r e s o lu tio n , to w h ic h a n a m e n d m e n t h a s a lr e a d y b e e n
o ffe r e d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e [M r. G a l l iw g e b ].
M r. K E R N . U n t il to -m o r r o w a t 11 o ’c lo c k ?
M r! B R A N D E G E E .
A t a n y t im e t h e S e n a to r c h o o s e s to
b r in g i t u p to -m o r r o w . I t h in k w e w o u ld l i k e s o m e l i t t l e c o n ­
fe r e n c e u p o n t h i s s id e , a n d , p o s s ib ly , w it h S e n a t o r s u p o n th e
o t h e r sid e .
M r. K E R N . L e t t h e o r d e r g o o v e r u n d e r t h e r u le u n t il to ­
m o r r o w , w it h a u n a n im o u s a g r e e m e n t t h a t w e m e e t a t 1 1 o ’c lo c k
to -m o r r o w .
M r. B R A N D E G E E . I h a v e n o o b je c tio n to t h a t.
M r. K E R N . I w i l l a s k t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e i f
h e o b je c ts ?
M r. G A L L IN G E R . I d o n o t o b je c t to t h a t a t a ll.

Mr. BRANDEGEE. Then the Senator from Indiana withholds
his resolution?
M r. K E R N .
t h e r u le .

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T h e r e h a s b e e n n o t h in g n e w , so f a r a s I c a n le a r n , t h a t h a s
c o m e o u t s in c e t h e h e a r in g s w e r e h a d ; a n d w h e n t h o s e c o m m it­
t e e s , a f t e r h e a r in g a ll t h a t h a s b e e n s a id o n t h e su b ject,- r e ­
p o r t e d in f a v o r o f t h e p a s s a g e o f t h i s b ill, I b e lie v e t h a t i t i s
e n t it le d to s o m e w e ig h t a s a g a in s t t h e p r o t e s t s o f p e o p le w h o
c o m e in h e r e a t t h e l a s t m o m e n t w it h s o m e t h in g g r a n d a n d n e w
t h a t h a s b e e n w h o lly o v e r lo o k e d b y e v e r y b o d y w h o h a s h e r e t o ­
f o r e in v e s t ig a t e d t h i s s u b je c t.
I k n o w o f n o th in g n e w t h a t
a f f e c t s m y o p in io n t h a t I a c q u ir e d w h e n t h i s m a tt e r w a s c o n ­
s id e r e d b y t h e S e n a te C o m m itte e o n P u b lic L a n d s .
I b e lie v e
t h e S e n a t e c o m m it t e e h a d f a c i l i t i e s f o r h e a r in g a ll t h a t w a s
w o r t h w h ile on t h e s u b je c t, a n d w h e n it d e c id e d to r e c o m m e n d
t h e b ill f a v o r a b ly I b e lie v e it d id so a d v is e d ly a n d w i s e l y a n d
in t h e in t e r e s t s o f h u m a n it y .
I n r e g a r d to t h e c h im e r ic a l o b je c tio n o f p e o p le w h o c a ll t h e m ­
s e lv e s n a t u r e lo v e r s , I c a n n o t s e e a n y t h in g in t h e ir c o n t e n tio n
to a p p e a l to r e a s o n o r a s e n s e o f j u s t ic e o r h u m a n it y . T h e ir
c o n t e n tio n t h a t t h e s e w a t e r s i f im p o u n d e d w o u ld n o lo n g e r
g u r g le o n to t h e s e a a n d m a k e b e a u t if u l s o o t h in g s o u n d s w h ic h
m ig h t b e lis t e n e d to b y a f e w h u n d r e d c a m p e r s w h o g o o n c e in
m a n y y e a r s to t h a t s e c t io n o f t h e c o u n tr y , a n d t h a t f o r t h e
b e n e fit o f p e o p le w h o lo v e t h a t b r a n d o f b e a u t y — a m e r e h a n d ­
f u l, a f e w h u n d r e d , o n e - te n t h o f 1 p e r c e n t, p e r h a p s , o f t h e
p o p u la t io n o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s — t h is w a t e r m u s t b e a llo w e d
t o r u n o n to t h e P a c ific O c e a n a n d bt; p u t to n o b e n e fic ia l
o r u s e f u l p u r p o s e is , to m y m in d , t o o a b s u r d to m e r it a n y
d is c u s s io n .
T h e s e p e o p le s e e m to t h in k t h e m s e lv e s t h e d ir e c t a g e n t s o f
G o d A lm ig h t y to t e ll u s w h a t is b e s t f o r u s in t h e p r e s e r v a t io n
o f o u r r e s o u r c e s , a n d t h e y w o u ld p u t t h e s e s tlie tic a b o v e t h e
u s e f u l. A s f a r a s I a m c o n c e r n e d I a m a u t ilit a r ia n a n d n o t
a n id e a lis t . I b e lie v e t h a t t h e e a r t h a n d e v e r y t h in g in it w a s
p u t u n d e r t h e d o m in io n o f m a n k in d f o r s o m e u s e f u l p u r p o se ,
t h a t it w a s in te n d e d to b e p u t to s o m e u s e f o r t h e d a ily w a n t s
o f m a n k in d , a n d w h a t e v e r i s t h e m o s t u s e f u l p u r p o s e so f a r a s
i t i s in o u r p o w e r to c o n s e n t, I t h in k i s t h e p u r p o s e to w h ic h
a l i t h e r e s o u r c e s o f t h is c o u n tr y o u g h t to b e p u t. I b e lie v e in
t h e d o c t r in e o f t h e g r e a t e s t g o o d to t h e g r e a t e s t n u m b e r , a n d
t h e im p o u n d in g o f t h is w a t e r a n d feed in g^ t h e f a m is h in g a n d
p e r is h in g p e o p le o f S a n F r a n c is c o a n d a d j o in in g c o m m u n it ie s
w it h it a n d g iv in g th e m s u s te n a n c e a n d l i f e a n d c o u r a g e w i l l
do m o r e g o o d t h a n t o l e t t h e s e w a t e r s r u n t o t h e s e a f o r f u t u r e
a g e s a n d t h o u s a n d s o f y e a r s in o r d e r t h a t t lie b ir d s m a y s in g
t h e r e a n d t h e w a t e r s m a y m u r m u r a n d t h a t a f e w a e s th e tic in d i­
v id u a ls m a y g o t h e r e o n c e in m a n y y e a r s a n d b e r e g a le d w it h
t h e s e d e lig h t s . I t h in k t h e w a t e r o u g h t to b e p u t to t h e p u r ­
p o s e w h ic h d o e s t h e g r e a t e s t g o o d to t h e g r e a t e s t n u m b e r .
T h e s e p e o p le s e e m to t h in k t h a t i t i s a m ig h t y o u tr a g e t h a t
w a t e r w h ic h w a s p u t o n t h e e a r t h b y t h e A lm ig h t y f o r t h e
b e n e fit o f m a n k in d i s a c t u a lly to b e p u t in t h e s t o m a c h s o f p e o ­
p le . T h e y se e m to t h in k i t is a n o u tr a g e t h a t w a t e r i s to b e
p u t in u s e so t h a t it m a y b e d r u n k b y p e o p le to p r e s e r v e lif e .
T h e y w o u ld h a v e u s b e lie v e t h a t t h a t i s o n e. o f t h e g r e a t e s t
o u t r a g e s o f t h e a g e , b u t I d o n o t b e lie v e t h a t t h o s e a r g u m e n ts
f o r o n e s e c o n d w ill a p p e a l to a n y o n e in t h i s b o d y .
I b e lie v e w e a ll r e c o g n iz e t h e p r in c ip le o f t h e g r e a t e s t g o o d
to t h e g r e a t e s t n u m b e r , a n d w e a ll r e a liz e t h a t t h e p e o p le o f
t h i s c o u n tr y a r e e n t it le d to h a v e t h e a f f a ir s o f t h i s c o u n tr y
a d m in is te r e d . u p o n t h e p r in c ip le t h a t t h e r e s o u r c e s o f t h i s
c o u n tr y w e r e g iv e n to u s in t r u s t b y t h e C r e a to r a n d o u Bh t to
b e so b a n d ie d a n d d is p o s e d o f a n d a d m in is te r e d a s to g iv e t h e
g r e a t e s t g o o d to t lie g r e a t e s t n u m b e r .
.
I t h in k t h e r e lia s b e e n a g r e a t d e a l o f m is r e p r e s e n t a tio n in
t h i s m a tt e r , n o t o n ly o f m o t iv e b u t o f f a c t . S o m e o f t h e n a tu r e
lo v e r s c la im t h a t t h e b e a u t ie s o f t h e H e t c h I l e t c h y \ a l l e y
w o u ld b e u t t e r ly d e s t r o y e d b y m a k in g a la k e in t lie b a s in o
t h a t v a lle y . I b e lie v e t h a t a r e a d in g o f t h e r e p o r ts o t t h e in ­
v e s t i g a t i o n s w i l l c o n v in c e a n y f a ir - m in d e d a n d r e a s o n a b le p e r ­
s o n t h a t t h e b e a u t ie s o f t h a t v a lle y w i l l b e e n h a n c e d b y p u t t in g
a b e a u t if u l la k e In t h e b a s in o f t h a t v a lle y . T h e la k e c a n in
n o w i.se d is t u r b t h e g r a n it e w a l l s o f t h a t b a s in n o r t h e w a t e r ­
f a l l s w h ic h a r e r e f e r r r e d t o a s o n e o f t h e c h i e f b e a u t ie s o f
t h a t sp o t. I b e lie v e t h a t m a k in g a la k e t h e r e w i l l m a k e i t
m o re b e a u t i f u l ; a n d t h e o n ly t h in g t lie la k e w i l l d o o t h e r w is e
th a n to e n h a n c e t h e b e a u t ie s w i l l b e to p r e v e n t t h e u s e o f t h e
b a sin f o r c a m p in g p u r p o s e s . T lie r e p o r t o f t lie i n v e s t ig a t io n
s h o w s t h a t it i s v e r y l i t t l e u s e d f o r c a m p in g p u r p o s e s a n d t h a t
th e r e a r e m a n y o t h e r p la c e s t h a t o ffe r f u l l y a s g o o d f a c i l i t i e s
in t h a t s e c tio n f o r c a m p e r s .
I b e lie v e w h e n t h i s r e s e r v o ir i s c o n s t r u c t e d a n d fille d w it h
p u re w a t e r i t w i l l m a k e o n e o f t lie g r a n d e s t s p o t s in t h e U n ite d
S ta te s , n o t o n ly g r a n d in b e a u t y a n d s u b lim it y , b u t g r a n d in
lie u s e s w h ic h i t w i l l s e r v e to m a n k in d a n d t h e p e o p le o f t h a t
se c tio n o f t h e c o u n tr y .




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T h e r e a r e m a n y t h in g s t h a t t h e p e o p le o f S a n F r a n c is c o a r e
to d o in r e tu r n f o r t h e s e c o n c e s s io n s , i f g r a n t e d . T h e y a r e t o
s p e n d h u n d r e d s o f t h o u s a n d s o f d o lla r s in c o n s t r u c t in g r o a d s
in t h is p a r k a n d in t h a t s e c tio n o f t h e c o u n tr y in o r d e r t h a t
v is it o r s a n d c a m p e r s w h o v i s i t t h e r e to e n j o y t h e b e a u t ie s o f
n a tu r e , a n d w h o a r e s e e k in g r e c r e a tio n a n d h e a lt h , m a y h a v e
b e t te r f a c i l it i e s f o r g e t t in g a r o u n d a n d v ie w in g t h e s e b e a u t ie s
o f n a tu r e o f w h ic h w e h e a r so m u c h . F o r t h e fir st 1 0 y e a r s
S a n F r a n c is c o i s t o s p e n d $ 1 5 ,0 0 0 p e r y e a r , f o r t h e n e x t s u c ­
c e e d in g 10 y e a r s $ 20,000 p e r y e a r , a n d f o r e v e r t h e r e a f t e r u n t il
i e l i e \ e d b y C o n g ie s s t h e s u m o f $ 3 0 ,0 0 0 p e r y e a r in r o a d s a n d
im p r o v e m e n t s in t h a t s e c t io n o f t h e c o u n tr y . I b e lie v e t h a t
t h o s e e x p e n d it u r e s w ill t a k e a s e c t io n o f t h e c o u n tr y w h ic h i s
n o w r e s o r te d to w it h c o m p a r a tiv e in f r e q u e n c y a n d c o n v e r t i t
in to a n d m a k e i t o n e o f t h e m o s t a t t r a c t iv e a n d b e s t p a tr o n iz e d
r e s o r t s f o r h e a lt h a n d b e a u ty a n d r e c r e a tio n to b e f o u n d in t h is
w h o le c o u n tr y . I b e lie v e t h a t w i t h t h e f a c i l i t i e s i t w i l l o p e n
f o r t h e e n j o y m e n t o f t h e b e a u t ie s o f n a tu r e , t h a t r a r e s p o t o f
a t t r a c t io n w i l l d r a w m o r e p e o p le to t h a t b e a u ty s p o t in e a c h
a n d e v e r y y e a r w h e n so im p r o v e d t h a n w o u ld g o to It in 50
y e a r s a s i t i s n o w , in i t s r a w a n d u n im p r o v e d a n d a lm o s t in ­
a c c e s s ib le c o n d itio n . I b e lie v e t h i s b e a u ty s p o t o f n a tu r e , in ­
s t e a d o f b e in g d e s t r o y e d or m a r r e d o r in ju r e d , w i l l b e m a d e ’ o n e
o f th e m o s t b e a u t if u l a n d u s e f u l s p o t s f o r h e a lt h a n d r e c r e a tio n
a n d b e a u ty t o b e fo u n d in t h e w h o le U n it e d S ta t e s .
T h e p e o p le o f S a n F r a n c is c o , a f t e r o f fe r in g t o c o m p ly w i t h a ll
t h e s e r e q u ir e m e n ts , w ill c o n f e r w h a t I b e lie v e t o b e a n e q u a l
b e n e fit u p o n t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s to t h e b e n e fits
t h a t t h e y w ill r e c e iv e , a n d t h e y a s k t h a t t h e y b e g r a n t e d t h i s
p r iv ile g e . I b e lie v e i t i s t h e d u t y o f o u r G o v e r n m e n t, s o f a r
a s in i t s p o w e r lie s , to m e e t e v e r y r e a s o n a b le w a n t o f i t s c i t i ­
z e n s . I t s c it iz e n s a r e c h ild r e n o f t h i s c o u n tr y , a n d t h e y a r e
e x p e c t e d in t im e s o f w a r a n d d is t r e s s to g i v e to t h i s G o v e r n ­
m e n t n o t o n ly t h e ir s e r v ic e s a n d t h e ir p r o p e r ty , b u t t h e ir l i f e ’s
b lo o d .
T lie p e o p le o f t h e c it y o f S a n F r a n c is c o h a v e b e e n a s u f f e r in g
p e o p le . T h e y h a v e h a d t h e h a n d o f c a la m it y la id h e a v i l y u p o n
th e m . T h e ir f a i r c it y h a s b e e n d e v a s t a t e d b y e a r t h q u a k e a n d
fire, a n d it i s r e p o r te d o n c r e d ib le a u t h o r it y t h a t o n e o f t h e
g r e a t e s t c a u s e s o f t h e d e v a s t a t io n o f t h a t f a i r c i t y b y fir e a f t e r
tlie e a r t h q u a k e o f 1 9 0 6 w a s t lie la c k o f a n a d e q u a te w a t e r s u p ­
p ly — t h e v e r y t h in g t h a t t h e y a r e s e e k in g t o g e t to -d a y a t a
c o s t o f m illio n s o f d o lla r s to t lie t a x p a y e r s . I f w e c a n a i d th e m
in a n y w a y , I b e lie v e i t i s t lie d u t y o f t h is G o v e r n m e n t to g r a n t
t h e m e v e r y f a c i l it y a n d p r iv ile g e t h a t i s w it h in i t s p o w e r in
o r d e r t o a c h ie v e t h a t w o r t h y o b je c t.
T h e p e o p le o f S a n F r a n c is c o a n d v ic in it y h a v e s h o w n t h e m ­
s e lv e s to b e a b r a v e a n d c o u r a g e o u s p e o p le . T h e y h a v e r is e n in
t h e ir m ig h t w h e n t h e v i s i t a t io n s o f c a la m it y h a v e b e e n l a i d u p o n
t h e m to a n e x t e n t r a r e ly e q u a le d in t h e h is t o r y o f t h e c iv i l i z e d
w o r ld o u t s id e o f w a r f a r e .
T h e y h a v e b u ilt a b e t t e r c it y , a
g r e a t e r c it y , t h a n b e f o r e t lie h a n d o f c a la m it y w a s l a i d u p o n
t h e m so d is t r e s s in g ly . T h e y a p p e a l to u s n o t o n ly in a m o s t
la u d a b le u n d e r ta k in g , b u t in o n e w h ic h i s a n a b s o lu t e n e c e s s i t y
f o r t h e p r e s e r v a t io n o f t lie l i v e s o f t h a t g r e a t a n d c o u r a g e o u s
a n d d e s e r v in g c it iz e n s h ip , a n d I a m , f o r o n e, in f a v o r o f d o in g
w h a t e v e r m a y b e l e g it im a t e ly a n d l a w f u l l y a n d c o n s t it u t io n a lly
d o n e u n d e r t h e p o w e r s o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t to g r a n t t h e m t h e ir
d e m a n d s . I w o u ld r a t h e r g i v e th e m a c u p o f c o l d ' w a t e r to
d r in k , i f in m y p o w e r , t h a n to t a k e t h e m o u t a n d s h o w th e m a ll
t h e b e a u t ie s o f a ll t h e la n d s c a p e s o f t lie c o u n tr y . I b e lie v e i t
w o u ld d o t h e m m o r e g o o d a n d w o u ld b e m o r e in a c c o r d w it h t h e
d ic t a t e s o f h u m a n it y . I d o n o t t h in k t h e y s h o u ld c o m e h e r e
a n d a s k f o r w a t e r to d r in k a n d h a v e to g o a w a y a n d s a y t h a t w e
d e n ie d th e m . W a t e r is o n e o f t h e g r e a t e s t g i f t s o f G od t o m a n ­
k in d . I b e lie v e t h i s i s o n e o f t lie s im p le s t r e q u e s t s t h a t c a n b e
m a d e , a n d l e t i t n o t b e s a id t h a t t h e y a s k e d u s f o r w a t e r a n d
w e g a v e th e m a sto n e .
I a m h e a r t ily in f a v o r o f t h i s b ill. I s e e n o v a l i d o r in s u r ­
m o u n t a b le o b je c tio n to i t s p a s s a g e . I t h a s p a s s e d t h e H o u s e o f
R e p r e s e n t a t iv e s . T in . e m e r g e n c y , t h e u r g e n c y , a n d t h e d is t r e s s
a r e d ir e , raid I h o p e t h a t a f t e r g o in g t h i s f a r t h o s e p e o p le w ill
n o t b e tu r n e d a w a y b y t h is b o d y w h e n a lm o s t w it h in t h e g o a l o f
w h a t t h e y d e s ir e .
M r. W O R K S . M r. P r e s id e n t , I g a v e n o t ic e t h a t I w o u ld a d ­
d r e s s t lie S e n a te u p o n t h i s b ill u p o n T h u r s d a y .
I d e s ir e n o w
t o w it h d r a w t h a t n o t ic e a n d to g iv e n o tic e t h a t I w i l l a d d r e s s
t lie S e n a t e to -m o r r o w , im m e d ia t e ly a f t e r t lie m o r n in g b u s in e s s , in
o r d e r t h a t w e m a y e x p e d it e t h i s m e a s u r e a s r a p id ly a s w e c a n .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e b i l l i s b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e a s in
C o m m itte e o f t h e W h o le a n d o p e n t o a m e n d m e n t.
M r. S M O O T . I s h o u ld li k e t o a s k t lie S e n a to r fr o m I n d ia n a
w h e t h e r h e in t e n d s to h a v e a n ig h t s e s s io n ; a n d i f so , howso o n h e w o u ld d e s ir e t h e S e n a t e to t a k e a r e c e s s ?

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M r. K E R N . T h e p u r p o se i s T h a t a t 6 o ’c lo c k w e w i l l t a k e a
r e c e s s u n til S o ’c lo c k .
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M r. S M O O T . I d o n o t k n o w w h e t h e r t h e r e is a n y o th e r
S e n a to r w h o d e s ir e s to p r o c e e d w it h t h e p e n d in g b ill a t t h is
tim e , a s it is n o w o n ly 4 0 m in u tes b e fo r e 6 o ’c lo ck .
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , i f th e r e i s n o S e n a to r p r e p a r e d
to d is c u s s t h e H e t c h H e t e h y b ill n o w , I w o u ld s u g g e s t t h a t it
m ig h t b e la id a s id e , s o t h a t w e m ay t a k e u p t h e b a n k in g a n d
c u r r e n c y b ill.
M r. G A L L IN O E R . I m a k e t h e p o in t t h a t th e r e i s n o q u o r u m

p resen t, i f I m ay be p erm itted to do so.
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T . T h e S ecreta ry w ill ca ll th e roll.
T h e S e c r e ta r y c a lle d t h e r o ll, a n d t h e f o llo w in g S e n a to r s a n ­
s w e r e d to t h e ir n a m e s :

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Bacon
Bankhead
Borah
Brady
Bryan
Chamberlain
Chilton
Clapp
Clarke, Ark.
BqB
Cummins
Dillingham
Gallinger
Gore
•Gronna
Hollis

Hughes
James
Johnson
Kenyon
Kern
La Toilette
Lane
Lewis
Martin, Va.
Martine, N. J.
Myers
Newlands
Norris
O’Gorman
Overman
Owen
Pago

Perkins
Pittman
Poindexter
Pomerene
RansUell
Reed
Robinson
Saulsbury
Shafroth
Sheppard
Sherman
Shields
Shively
Simmons
Smith,. Ariz.
Smith, Ga.
Smith, S. C.

Sterling
Stone
Swanson
Thomas
Thompson
Thornton
TUlnian
Vardaman
Walsh
Warren
Weeks
Williams
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S e n a t e a n d o p en to a m e n d m e n t.
M r. W O R K S . M r. P r e s id e n t , I s u p p o s e a v o t e w i l l n o t h e
i n s is t e d u p o n o n t h e H e tc h I l e t c h y b ill to -d a y . T h e r e h a v e b een
a t le a s t t w o n o t ic e s g iv e n o f t h e in te n t io n o f S e n a to r s to s p e a k
u p o n t h e b ill. I h a v e a d v a n c e d m y t im e o f s p e a k in g in o r d e r to
e x p e d it e t h e d is c u s s io n o f t h e b ill, b u t I s h a ll n o t b e a b le to g o
o n to -n ig h t. I h a v e t o g a t h e r t o g e th e r s o m e d o c u m e n ts to be
u s e d fo r t h a t p u r p o se . I t h in k t h e S e n a te r e a liz e s t h a t t h is i s
a v e r y im p o r ta n t q u e s t io n a s a f fe c tin g t h e S t a t e o f C a lif o r n ia ,
a n d it o u g h t n o t to b e f o r c e d t o a v o t e w it h o u t a m p le t im e to
d is c u s s it.
M r. W I L L I A M S . D is c u s s i t n o w .
M r. W O R K S .
O f "course, i f t h e S e n a te in s i s t s u p o n it.
s p e e c h e s c a n b e m a d e h e r e to t a k e u p t h e tim e , b u t t h a t w o u ld
b e u s e le s s . I t h e r e f o r e a s k t h a t t h e m a tt e r m a y b e d e la y e d u n til
to -m o r r o w m o r n in g , s o t h a t t h e d is c u s s io n m a y p r o c e e d i n a n
o r d e r ly w a y .
M r. P I T T M A N . M r. P r e s id e n t , h a v in g t h e b ill in c h a r g e b y
d ir e c t io n o f tlie c h a ir m a n o f t h e c o m m itte e , I w ill s t a t e t h a t it
i s n o t t h e in te n t io n to f o r c e i t to a v o t e a t a ll, a n d t h a t w e a r e
p e r f e c t ly w illin g to c o n s e n t t h a t t h e b ill b e te m p o r a r ily la id
a s id e u n til to -m o r r o w m o r n in g .
M r. W I L L I A M S . M r. P r e s id e n t , i f t h e b ill i s te m p o r a r ily
la id a s id e to -n ig h t, t h e n I s u p p o s e i t w o u ld h e in o r d e r to b r in g
u p t h e b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y b ill a n d g o o n w it h i t s c o n ­
s id e r a tio n .
M r. O W E N . I w o u ld m a k e t h a t m o tio n i f t lie p e n d in g b ill
w e r e la id a s id e .
M r. W I L L I A M S .
U n le s s t h a t w e r e u n d e r s to o d , I sh o u ld
O bject to t lie r e q u e s t.
M r. P I T T M A N . 1 u n d e r s to o d t h e b ill w a s t o b e te m p o r a r ily
la id a s id e b y r e a s o n o f t h e n o tic e g iv e n b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m
C a lif o r n ia [Mr. W o rks ] t h a t h e w o u ld a d d r e s s t h e S e n a te o n
t h e b ill to -m o r r o w m o r n in g a n d t h a t th e r e i s n o o th e r S e n a to r
w h o d e s ir e s to a d d r e s s h im s e lf to t h e b ill a t t h e p r e s e n t t im e ;
a n d th e r e b e in g no o th e r , t h e S e n a to r in c h a r g e o f t h e c u r r e n c y
b ill d e s ir e s to .p r o c e e d w it h t h e c o n s id e r a tio n o f i t a t t h i s tim e .
M r. G A L L IN G E R . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e r e a d in g o f t h e u n a n i­
m o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t w ill d e v e lo p t h e f a c t t h a t t h e S e n a te
lia s a g r e e d to v o t e u p o n t h e H e t c h H e t c liy b ill n e x t S a t u r d a y ;
so I t h in k n o S e n a to r n e e d b e a p p r e h e n s iv e t h a t a v o t e w i l l b e
fo r c e d b e fo r e t h a t tim e . I t c a n n o t b e d o n e .
B A N K IN G

AND

CURRENCY.

M r. O W E N . I m o v e t h a t t h e S e n a te p r o c e e d to t h e c o n s id e r ­
a t io n o f H o u s e b ill 7887.
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
T h e C h a ir u n d e r s t a n d s t h a t , by
u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t, H o u s e b ill 720 7 , b e in g t h e H e t c h H e t e h y b ill,
i s te m p o r a r ily la id a s id e . T lie S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a m o v e s
t h a t t lie S e n a te p r o c e e d to th e c o n s id e r a tio n o f H o u s e b ill 7 8 37.




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T h e m o tio n w a s a g r e e d to , a n d t h e S e n a te , a s in C o m m itte e o f
th e W h o l e ,:p r o c e e d e d to c o n s id e r t h e b ill ( I I . It. 7 8 3 7 ) to p r o ­
v id e f o r t h e e s t a b lis h m e n t o f F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s , f o r f u r n is h ­
in g a n e la s t ic c u r r e n c y , a ffo r d in g m e a n s o f r e d is c o u n t in g c o m ­
m e r c ia l p a p e r , a n d to e s t a b lis h a m o r e e f f e c t iv e s u p e r v is io n o f
b a n k in g in t h e U n ite d S t a t e s , a n d f o r o t h e r p u r p o se s .
M r O W EN . I a sk f o r The r e a d in g o f t h e b ill.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e S e c r e t a r y w ill r e a d t h e b ill.

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T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T lie S e n a to r fr o m W y o m in g w ill
s t a t e h i s p a r lia m e n t a r y in q u ir y .
M r. W A R R E N . I w is h to a s k i f t h e b ill w h ic h i s n o w b e in g
r e a d i s t h e o n e w h ic h a p p e a r s on t h e d e s k s o f S e n a t o r s a s a n
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T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T , sit is n o t. I t is t h e H o u s e b ill r e ­
p o r te d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a w it h o u t a m e n d m e n t.
M r. O W E N . I t i s t lie H o u s e b ill w h ic h i s b e in g r e a d .
M r. W A R R E N . T h e n , m a y I a sk . D o e s t h e a m e n d m e n t c o v e r
w h a t i s p r o p o se d to t a k e t h e p la ce o f t h e H o u s e b ill t
M r. O W E N . I t is m o t a n a m e n d m e n t a t a l l ; it is: s im p ly th e
H o u s e b ill w h ic h i s b e in g r e a d n o w fo r t h e f ir s t t u n e a t .'length.
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read.
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M r. W A R R E N . W h a t I w a n t "to k n o w i s t h i s : T w a s to ld th a t
t h e a m e n d m e n t o n o u r d e s k s in s o m e fifty -o d d p a g e s c o n ta in e d
a ll o f t h e m a tt e r t h a t w a s in t h e o r ig in a l H o u s e b ill t h a t 1ms
b e e n a d o p te d b y t h e c o m m it t e e h a v in g i t in c h a r g e , o r, I m ig h t
sa y . by th e ca u cu s.
M r. O W E N .
T h e r e i s a p r in t in c lu d in g t h e H o u s e b ill a s
p r o p o se d to bo a m e n d e d ; b u t I t h o u g h t i t w a s in b e t te r o rd er
to h a v e t h e H o u s e b ill f ir s t r e a d .
M r. W A R R E N . I t w i l l c o n t a in s o m e m a tt e r s n o t c o n ta in e d
in t h e a m e n d e d p r in t?
M r. O W E N . Y es.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e S e c r e t a r y w i l l p r o c e e d w i h th e
r e a d in g o f t h e b ill.
T h e S e c r e t a r y r e s u m e d t h e r e a d in g o f t h e b ill.
M r. 'K E R N . T ask- t h a t t h e f i n d i n g b e s u s p e n d e d w h ile I
m a k e a m o tio n . I m o v e t h a t w h e n t h e h o u r o f 0 o ’c lo c k s im p
h a v e a r r iv e d t h e S e n a te t a k e a r e c e s s u n t il 8 o ’c lo c k T o -n ig h t.
M r. P E N R O S E . O n t h a t m o t io n I c a ll f o r t h e y e a s a n d najm*T h e y e n s a n d n a y s w e r e o r d e r e d , a n d t h e S e c r e t a r y p roceed ed ,
t o c a ll t h e r o ll.
M r. W A R R E N ( w h e n h is n a m e w a s c a l l e d ) . I a n n o u n c e my
p a i r w it h T h e s e n io r S e n a to r f r o m F lo r id a [M r. F l e t c h e r ],

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K E R N ( a f t e r h a v in g v o t e d in t h e a f f ir m a t iv e ) . O n a c ­
o f m y p a ir w it h t h e S e n a to r fr o m K e n t u c k y ) [M r . B radI w it h d r a w m y v o te .
C H A M B E R L A I N . I h a v e a g e n e r a l p a ir w i t h t h e j u n io r
S en ator fr o m P e n n s y lv a n ia [M r. Oliver ]. I n v i e w o f J u s ab­
se n c e , I w it h h o ld m y v o te .
M r. C H IL T O N . I h a v e a g e n e r a l p a ir w it h t h e j u n io r S e n a ­
to r fr o m M a r y la n d [M r. Ja c k s o n ], I n h is .a b s e n c e I w it h h o ld
m y v o te , u n le s s it b e n e c e s s a r y t o m a k e a q u o r u m .
M r. S M O O T . I d e s ir e t o a n n o u n c e tlifft t h e s e n io r S e n a to r
fr o m K a n s a s [M r. B r is t o w ] i s u n a v o id a b ly d e t a in e d fr o m th e
C h a m b e r.
/
M r. S T O N E ( a f t e r h a v in g v o t e d in T he a f f ir m a t iv e ) . I sh o u ld
lik e -t o in q u ir e w h e t h e r t h e S e n a to r fr o m W y o m in g [M r. C l a r k ]
h a s v o te d ?
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
T lie C h a ir i s in fo r m e d t h a t h e
h a s n o t.
M r. S T O N E .
H a v in g a g e n e r a l p a ir w i t h t h a t S e n a to r , i
w it h d r a w m y v o te .
M r. M Y E R S ( a f t e r h a v in g v o t e d in t h e a f f ir m a t iv e ) . I a s k
i f t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o n n e c t ic u t [M r. M cL e an ] h a s v o t e d ?
T h e V I C E P R E S ID E N T * .
T h e C h a ir i s in fo r m e d t h a t h e
h a s n o t.
/
M r. M Y E R S . A s I h a v e a p a ir w i t h t h a t S e n a to r , I . w i t h ­
d r a w m y v o te .
M r. S M I T H o f A r iz o n a ( a f t e r h a v in g v o t e d in t h e a ffir m a ­
t i v e ) . I n v ie w o f ,w !ia t h a s b e e n s a id r e g a r d in g p a ir s , a n d in
v ie w o f t h e p r o v is io n s o f t h e p a ir I h a v e w i t h t h e S e n a t o r fr o m
N e w M e x ic o [M r ; ® 1a l l ], I f e e l t h a t u n d e r t h a t p a ir I o u g h t To
w it h d r a w ray \ m e .
M r. C L A R K E o f A r k a n s a s ( a f t e r h a v in g v o t e d in t h e a ffirm a ­
tiv e ).
I d id n o t h e a r r e a d t h e n a m e o f t h e j u n io r S e n a to r
fr o m U t a h .JpVIr. S u t h e r l a n d ] am on g t h o s e w h o v o te d .

Tlie VICE PRESIDENT. Tlie Senator from Utah, as the
Chair is informed, has not voted.
M r. (^ L A R K E o f A r k a n s a s . T h e n I w it h d r a w m y v o te , a s I
h a v e A s t a n d in g p a ir w it h t h a t S e n a to r .

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE,

1913.

T h e r e s u lt w a s a n n o u n c e d — y e a s 53, n a y s 5, a s f o l lo w s :

Ashurst
Bacon.
Bankhead
Borah
Brady
Bryan
Clapp
Colt
Gore
Hollis
Hughes
.Tames
Johnson
Kenyon

La Follette
Lane
Lewis
Martin, Va.
Martine, N.
Newlands
Norris
O’Gorman
Overman
Owen
Perkins
Pittman
Poindexter
Pomerene

Cummins
Gallinger

Gronna

Bradley
Brandegee
Bristow
Burleigh
Burton
Catron
Chamberlain
Chilton
Clark, Wyo.
Clarke, Ark.

YEAS— 53.
Ransdell
Reed
Robinson
Sauisbury
Shafroth"
J,.
Sheppard
Sherman
Shields
Shively
Simmons
Smith, Ga.
Smith, S. C.
Smoot
Sterling
NAYS— 5.
Page

NOT VOTING— 37.
Kern
Crawford
Culberson
Lea
Lippitt
Dillingham
Lodge
du Pont
McCmnber
Fall
McLean
Fletcher
Myers
Goff
Nelson
HitcTieock
Oliver
Jackson
Root
Jones

Swanson
Thomas
Thompson
Thornton
Tillman
Townsend
Vardaman
Walsh
Weeks
Williams
Works

Penrose
Smith, Ariz.
Smith, Md.
Smith, Mich,
Stephenson
Stone
Sutherland
Warren

S o M r. K e e n ’s m o tio n w a s a g r e e d to .
M r. G A L L IN G E H . M r. P r e s id e n t , I b e lie v e t h e S e c r e t a r y
w a s r e a d in g t h e b ill.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . Y e s.
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.
T h e r e a d in g o f t h e b ill w a s r e s u m e d , b e g in n in g w it h s e c tio n 3 ,
p a g e 4, lin e 2 , a n d c o n tin u e d to t h e e n d o f s e c tio n 7, o n p a g e 13.
R E C E SS.

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e h o u r o f G o ’c lo c k h a v in g a r ­
r iv e d , t h e S e n a te t a k e s a r e c e s s u n til 8 o ’c lo c k p. m .
E V E N IN G S E S S IO N .
T h e S e n a t e r e a s s e m b le d a t

8 o ’c lo c k p. m .

B A N K IN G A N D

CURRENCY.

T h e S e n a te , a s in C o m m itte e o f t h e W h o le , r e s u m e d t h e c o n ­
s id e r a tio n o f t h e b ill ( I I . R . 7 8 3 7 ) t o p r o v id e f o r t h e e s t a b lis h ­
m e n t o f F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s , f o r f u r n is h in g a n e l a s t ic c u r ­
r e n c y , a ffo r d in g m e a n s o f r e d is c o u n tin g ^ c o m m e r c ia l p a p e r , a n d
t o e s t a b lis h a m o r e e f f e c t iv e s u p e r v is io n o f b a n k in g in t h e
U n it e d S ta t e s , a n d f o r o t h e r p u r p o se s .
M r. S M O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t , I d is lik e t o c a ll f o r a q u o r u m
o f t h e S e n a te , b u t t h i s m o r n in g w h e n t h e S e n a t e m e t t h e r e w e r e
o n ly e ig h t S e n a t o r s in t h e C h a m b e r , a n d I n o t ic e h u t t w o S e n a ­
t o r s o n t h e m a j o r it y s id e o f t h e C h a m b e r n o w . I s u g g e s t t h e
ab sen ce o f a q uorum .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir t h in k s t h e s u g g e s t io n
i s e m in e n tly a p p r o p r ia te . T h e S e c r e t a r y w ill c a ll t h e ro ll.
T h e S e c r e t a r y c a lle d t h e r o ll, a n d t h e f o llo w in g S e n a to r s
a n s w e r e d to t h e ir n a m e s :

Bacon
Bankhead
Borah
Brady
Bryan
Chilton
Clark, Wyo.
Clarke, Ark.

Gallinger
Goff
Kenyon
Kern
Lane
Martin, Va.
Martine, N. J.
Myers

Nelson
O’Gorman
Overman
Owen
Page
Pomerene
Reed
Robinson

Sheppard
Shively
Smith, Ariz
Smith, Ga,
Smoot
Thomas
Tillman
Townsend

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h ir t y - tw o S e n a to r s h a v e a n s w e r e d
to t h e r o ll c a ll. T h e r e i s n o t a q u o r u m p r e s e n t.
M r. K E R N . I m o v e t h a t t h e S e r g e a n t a t A r m s b e d ir e c t e d
t o r e q u e s t t h e a t te n d a n c e o f a b s e n t S e n a to r s .
M r. S M O O T . T h e fir s t t h in g t o b e d o n e i s to c a l l t h e n a m e s
o f th e a b sen tees.
M r. K E R N , V e r y w e ll.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e S e c r e t a r y w i l l c a ll t h e n a m e s
o f a b s e n t S e n a to r s .
T h e S e c r e t a r y c a lle d t h e n a m e s o f a b s e n t S e n a to r s , a n d M r.
H u g h e s , M r. S im m o n s , M r. S m it h o f S o u th C a r o lin a , M r.
S terling , M r. S tone , M r. S w a n s o n , M r. T h o m p s o n , M r.
T h ornton , M r. V ar d a m a n , a n d M r. W a l s h a n s w e r e d to t h e ir
n a m e s w h e n c a lle d .
,
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M r. C l a p p , M r. L e w is , M r. J o h n so n , M r. W e e k s , M r. S a u l s buky , M r. H ollis , M r. A s h u e s t , M r. Colt, a n d M r. S iia fb o t h
e n t e r e d t h e C h a m b e r a n d a n s w e r e d t o t h e ir n a m e s .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . F if t y - o n e S e n a to r s h a v e a n s w e r e d
t o t h e r o ll c a ll. T h e r e i s a q u o r u m p r e s e n t. T h e S e c r e t a r y
w i l l p r o c e e d w i t h t h e r e a d in g o f t h e b ill.
T h e S e c r e t a r y r e s u m e d t h e r e a d in g o f t h e b ill a t s e c tio n 8,
o n p a g e 13 , a n d c o n c lu d e d t h e r e a d in g .




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M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , I o ffe r a n a m e n d m e n t, a n d a s k
t h a t i t b e r e a d to t h e S e n a te .
M r. W E E K S . I s h o u ld li k e to a s k th e' S e n a to r fr o m O k la ­
h o m a w h ic h b ill h e is o ffe r in g a s a n a m e n d m e n t— t h e o n e t h a t
i s p r in te d in p a r a lle l c o lu m n s o r t h e l a s t p r in t?
.^ W E N . I t i s t h e l a s t p r in t, t h e o n e o f D e c e m b e r 1,
p r in te d t h is m o r n in g . I t i s t h e p r in t w h ic h a p p e a r e d in p a r a lle l
c o lu m n s , w it h s o m e f e w c h a n g e s m a d e , a c o p y o f w h ic h i s o n t h e
d e s k s o f S e n a to r s .
M i. W E E K S . M a y I in q u ir e o f t h e S e n a to r f r o m O k la h o m a

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nr
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- I- W E E K S . 1 s h o u ld l i k e to m a k e a p a r lia m e n t a r y in q u ir y .
I f t h e s u b s t it u t e i s r e a d a s a n a m e n d m e n t, a n d t h e n t h e S e n a te
a d jo u r n s , w ill i t l e a v e t h e o r ig in a l b ill, t h e H o u s e b ill o p e n to
a m e n d m e n t, u s in g t h e c h a n g e s c o n t a in e d in w h a t i s k n o w n a s
t h e H itc h c o c k a m e n d m e n t?
M r. O W E N . E it h e r o n e o r t h e o th e r w i l l b e in o r d e r a s I
u n d e r s ta n d t h e p a r lia m e n t a r y r u le , e it h e r to p r o p o s e amend­
m e n t s to t h e H o u s e b ill o r to p r o p o s e a m e n d m e n t s to t h e a m e n d ­
m e n t w h ic h I offer .
M r. W E E K S . I f t h a t i s t h e s h a p e in w h ic h t h e m a t t e r i s to
b e le f t , I h a v e n o o b je c tio n t h a t t h e r e a d in g s h a l l p r o c e e d
M r. O W E N . T h a t i s m y u n d e r s t a n d in g o f t h e p a r lia m e n t a r y
sta tu s.
M r. G A L L IN G E R . A m I c o r r e c t in a s s u m in g t h a t t h e S e n ­
a t o r fr o m O k la h o m a p r o p o s e s to m o v e t h i s a s a s u b s t it u t e f o r
t h e b ill t h a t h a s b e e n r e a d ?
M r. O W E N . Y e s .
M r. G A L L I N G E R . A b a n d o n in g t h e b ill o r s u b s t it u t e t h a t
w a s r e p o r te d s o m e d a y s a g o fr o m t h e s e c tio n o f t h e c o m m it t e e
o f w h ic h t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a i s c h a ir m a n ?
M r. O W E N . I t i s p r a c t ic a lly t h e s a m e , w it h a f e w m in o r
ch a n g es.
M r. G A L L I N G E R . T h is , th e n , w i l l t a k e t h e p la c e o f t h e
H o u s e b ill f o r c o n s id e r a tio n ?
M r. O W E N . Y e s . I t i s p r a c t ic a lly t h e H o u s e b ill, w it h t h e
a m e n d m e n t s p r o p o s e d b y t h e s e c tio n o f t h e c o m m it t e e w it h
w h ic h I a m a s s o c ia te d ..
M r. G A L L I N G E R . T h e n i t w i l l b e p r o p e r f o r a n y S e n a to r
t o o f fe r a n a m e n d m e n t e it h e r t o t h e s u b s t it u t e b ill o r t o t h e
o r ig in a l H o u s e b ill?
M r. O W E N . T h a t i s m y u n d e r s t a n d in g o f t h e p a r lia m e n t a r y
sta tu s.
M r. G A L L IN G E R . Y e s ; t h a t i s c o r r e c t.
M r. S M O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t , I s h o u ld lik e t o a s k t h e S e n a to r
fr o m O k la h o m a w h e t h e r h e h a s h a d p r in te d t h e H o u s e b ill
s h o w in g t h e a m e n d m e n ts to i t a c c o r d in g to t h e p r in t t h a t w a s
r e p o r te d t h is m o r n in g ?
M r. O W E N . S u c h a p r in t h a s b e e n o r d e r e d , b u t i t h a s n o t
y e t been m ade.
I s h o u ld lik e to a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t to
h a v e p r in te d 20,000 c o p ie s o f e a c h o f t h e s e b ills , in o r d e r t h a t
w e m a y su p p ly t h e c o u n tr y . T h e r e i s a v e r y la r g e d e m a n d fr o m
b a n k e r s t o k n o w j u s t w h a t t h e b ills a re.
M r. S M O O T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r m e a n 20,000-— —
M r. O W E N . T w e n t y t h o u s a n d o f e a c h o f t h e s e p r in ts .
M r. S M O O T . T w e n t y t h o u s a n d c o p ie s o f t h e p r in t t h a t i s
n o w l y in g u p o n t h e ta b le ?
M r. O W E N . T h e p r in t t h a t t h e S e n a to r h a s in M s h a n d ,
t h e o n e t h a t d o e s n o t s h o w t h e p a r t s o f t h e H o u s e b ill s t r u c k
o u t, a n d t h e s a m e s h o w in g w h e r e c h a n g e s a r e m a d e in t h e
H o u s e h ill.
M r. S M O O T . I d o n o t t h in k i t i s n e c e s s a r y to h a v e b o th o f
th e m p r in te d , b u t I d o t h in k w e o u g h t to h a v e o n e o r t h e o t h e r
o f th e m . I b e lie v e a p r in t o f t h e H o u s e b ill w it h t h e p r o p o s e d
a m e n d m e n ts , s h o w in g w h e r e t h e t e x t i s str ic k e n o u t, w o u ld b e
f a r b e tte r , n o t o n ly f o r t h e S e n a te b u t f o r t h e c o u n tr y .
M r. O W E N . I a s k t h a t 2 0 ,0 0 0 c o p ie s h e p r in te d .
M r. S M O O T . V e r y w e ll.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . I s t h e r e o b je c tio n ? T h e C h a ir
h e a r s n on e, a n d it is so ord ered .
T h e o r d e r a s a g r e e d to w a s r e d u c e d to w r it in g , a s f o l l o w s :
Ordered, That there he printed 20,000 copies o f the H ouse print of
H. R. 7837, to provide for the establishment of Federal reserve hanks,
to furnish an elastic currency, to afford moans o f rediscounting com­
mercial paper, to establish a more effective supervision of banking in
the United States, and for other purposes, showing the amendment
thereto as proposed b y the substitute offered b y Mr. O w e n December 1,
1913.

M r. N E L S O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , I s h o u ld lik e t o in q u ir e w h a t
i t i s t h a t i s p r o p o se d t o b e r e a d ?
M r. O W E N . T h e a m e n d m e n t w h ic h I o ffer .
M r. N E L S O N . D o e s t h e S e n a to r o ffe r a s a s u b s t it u t e f o r t h e
G la s s b ill t h e e n t ir e h ill t h a t h e r e p o r te d ?

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I o ffe r t h a t a s a s u b s t it u t e , a n d a f t e r i t h a s b e e n
r e a f f e it lie r t h e H o u s e b i l l o r t iff s p r o p o s e d s u b s t i t u t e m
be
o p e n t o a m e n d m e n t, a s I u n d e r s t a n d t h e ] p a r lia n u e n t a ^ s t M u ^
M r. N E L S O N . T lie S e n a to r p r o p o s e s t h a t t i n s a m e n o m u n
s h a ll b e r e a d t o -n ig h t?
Mr

M r. N E L S O N .Y 'A f t e r i t h a s b e e n r e a d , t h e n w h a t , t o -m g h t?
M r. O W E N . I f n o S e n a to r d e s ir e s t o a d d r e s s t h e S e n a te , I
s h a ll t h e n m o v e t h a t t h e S e n a t e a d jou rn .

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remiirod therefor, then and in that event the said organization com­
m ittee may under conditions and regulations to lie prescribed by it,
o f f e r to public subscription at par such .an amount of stock in said
Federal reserve banks, or any one or more of them, as said committee
shall determine, subject to tbe same conditions as to payment in and
stock liability as provided for member banks.
No individual, copartnership, or corporation other than a member
hink o f i t s district shall be permitted to subscribe for or to hold at
anv time more than $10,000 par value of stock m any Hederal reserve
s t o c k shall be known as public stock and may be trans­
p ir e d o n t h e b o o k fo f the Federal reserve bank by the chairman of

Secretary win read tbe amettd-

‘ “ ‘i'h e S S S L S . * It lS™)roi>osfS “ o°strlke oat all after the ena c t in g c la u s e a n d to i n s e r t .

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ah nil hp tbe “ Federal reserve act.
That the short title
i« used in tills act, the word shall be
Wherever the wor<
< banking association, and trust company, ex5 $ “ , S ,'S a o o ',, l banks “ K
” >o»«™ 1 . ® arc «rcclllcal,y

t h «monairid the To?alt0s\ibscriptions:^ v "banks and the public to the stock
of
a p i k r r e s e r v e banks, or any one or more of them, be in the
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the organization committee, insufficient to provide the
■ iP oP t of capital recmiied therefor, then and in that event the said
amount of capu
1 . n llot Lo the xjnited fctates such an am ount
o r g a n i z a t i o n commit we simua^
determine. Said United States
° l s,all j r t ™id f o r at pai out of any money in the Treasury not
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the Treasotherwise appiopriatea,
benefit of thebyUnited
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the Seer,t!l ' i ’JJ.'k e e t h’T b L m a t o M n S " U l 1 »ot he entitled to voting powee

r e TheCIcrms “ national Dank ” and “ national banking association ” used
in this act shall be held to be synonymous and interchangeable, The
term “ member bank ” shall be held to mean any national bank, State
nt .rn nH vink or trust company which has become a member of one of
the^resLve b an k screated by this act. The term “ b oard - shall be
held to mean Federal reserve board; the term “ district shall he held
to- mean Federal reserve d istrict; the term “ reserve b an k ” shall be
held to mean Federal reserve bank

in and be exercised sole y by t!ie £ ho'ld and wll0 shall be designated as
f ^ o t i / g power o n sa « ?upnmic

FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICTS.

GXNo^Federal1meserv'J’ b a n T sliU l1commence business w ith a subscribed
canital less in amount than $3,000,000. The organization of reserve distriet4 ‘ind Federal reserve cities shall not, he constm ed as changing the
nresent status of reserve cities and-central reserve cities, except in so
Far as this act changes the amount of reserves th at may be carried with
approvedreserve agents located therein. The organization committee
shall have power to appoint such assistants and incur such expenses in
cnrrvine out the provisions of this act as it shall deem necessary, and
Qiieh expenses shall he payable by the Treasurer of the United States
upon voucher approved by the Secretary of the Treasury, and the sum
of $100 000, or bo much thereof as may be necessary, is heieby approprinted out of any moneys in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated,
for the’ payment of such expenses.

Sec. 2. As soon as practicable the Secretary of the Treasury a n d not
less than two other members of the Federal reserve board
provided for, to be assigned by the President, acting as the reserve
bank organization committee,” shall designate not less than 8 n
more than 12 cities to be known as Federal reserye ett os and shall
divide the continental United States, including

the convenience and customary

course of

business <

districts thus

created hv the Federal reserve hoard, not to exceed 12 m all. Such
districts shall be known as Federal reserve districts and may be desig­
nated by number. A majority, of the organization committee shall con­
stitute a duortim, with authority to act.
tiaid organization committee shall he authorized to employ counsel
and expert aid, to take testimony, to send, for persons and papers,
to administer oaths, and to make such investigation as may be deemed
necessary by the skid committee in determining the reserve districts
and in determining the cities within such districts, w hcie such I ederal reserve hanks shall he severally located. I he said committee shall
supervise the organization, in each of the cities designated, of a 1 edenff reserve bank, which shall include in its title the name of the city
fp which it is situated as “ Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.”
Under regulations to be prescribed by the organization committee,
every national banking association in the United States, including the
trust companies engaged in commercial banking within the District
of Columbia, is hereby required, and every eligible bank is heieby
authorized, to signify in writing, within 60 days, after the passage of
this act, its acceptance of the terms and provisions hereof. When
a Federal reserve Lank shall have been organized, every national hank­
ing association w ithin that district shall he required and every eligible
bank may be permitted to subscribe to tbe capital stock thereof in a
sum equal to 6 per cent of the paid-up capital stock and suiplus of
such hank, one-sixth of the subscription to be payable on call of . the
organization committee or of the Federal re^ rve board, one-sixth
within three months, and one-sixth within six months th ereafter and
the remainder of the subscription, or any part thereof, shall be subject
to call when deemed necessary by. the Federal reserve board, said pay­
ments to he in gold or gold certiiicates.
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The shareholders of every Federal reserve hank shall be held indi­
vidually responsible, equally and ratably, and not one for another
for all contracts, debts, and engagements of such bank to the extent
of the amount of their subscriptions to such stock at the par value
thereof in addition to the amount subscribed, whether such subscriptions have been paid, up in wliole or in part, undei the piovisions of
Any national bank failing to signify its acceptance of the terms of
this act w ithin the 60 days aforesaid shall cease to act as a reserve
agent, upon 20 days’ notice, to be given within the discretion of the
said organization committee or of the Federal reserve hoard.
Should any national banking association in the United^ States or
trust company engaged in commercial banking in the District of
Columbia now organized fail, within one year after the passage of this
act. to become a member bank under the provisions hereinbefore stated,
or fail to comply with any of the provisions of this act applicable
thereto, all of the rights, privileges, and franchises of such association
"ranted to it under the national-bank act, or under the provisions of
this act, shall w ithin the discretion of the Federal reserve board be
thereby forfeited. Any noncompliance with or violation of this act
shall however, be determined and adjudged by any court of tbe United
States of competent jurisdiction in a suit brought for that purpose in
the district or territory in which such bank is located, under direction
of the Federal reserve board, by the Comptroller of the Currency in
his own name before the association shall he declared dissolved. In
cases of such noncompliance or violation, other than the failure to
become a member bank under the provisions of this act, every director
who participated in or assented to the same shall be held liable in his
personal or individual capacity for all damages which said bank, its
shareholders, or any other person shall have sustained in consequence
of such violation.
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Such dissolution shall not take away or impair any remedy against
such corporation, its stockholders or officers, for any liability or penalty
which shall have been previously incurred.
Should the subscriptions by banks to the stock of said Federal
reserve banks or any one or more of them be, in the judgment of the
organization committee, insufficient to provide the amount of capital




not to°be^on °b?ered. ^The voting t t u ^ c ^ s h a ll exercise the same powers
empowe)edBto adopt and promul­
gate rules and regulations governing the transfers ot said stock and the

BRANCH OFFICES.

Svc 3 Each Federal reserve bank shall establish branch offices w ithin
the Federal reserve district in which it is located and also m the dis­
trict of any Federal reserve bank which may have been suspended, such
branches to be established and conducted at places and undei legulations approved by the Federal reserve board.
FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS.

S fc 4 When the organization committee shall have established Fed­
eral reserve districts as provided in section 2 of this act, a c e r tifl-te
shall be filed with the Comptroller of the Currency showing the geo"raphical lim its of such districts and the Federal reserve city desig­
nated in each of such districts. The Comptroller of the Currency shall
thereupon cause to be forwarded to each national bank located in each
district and to such other banks declared to be eligible by the organiza­
tion committee which may apply therefor, an application blank in
form to be approved
bythe organization committee, v Rich blank shall
contain a resolution to be adopted by the board oi directors of each
hank executing such application, authorizing a sabsciiption to the
capital stock of the Federal reserve bank organizing in that district
in accordance with the provisions of this act.
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When the minimum amount of capital stock prescribed by this act
for the organization
of any Federal reserve bank
shall have beensub­
scribed and allotted
the organization committee
shall designate any
five hanks of those whose applications have been received, to execute a
certificate of organization, and thereupon the banks so designated shall,
under their seals, make an organization certificate which shall spe­
cifically state the name of such Federal reserve bank, the territorial
extent of the district over which the operations ot such Federal reserve
hank are to be carried on, the city and State in which said bank is to
be located, the amount of capital stock and the number of shales into
which the same is divided, the name and place of doing business of each
bank executing such certificate, and of all banks which have subscribed
to the capital stock of such Federal reserve bank and the number of
shares subscribed by each, and tbe jffict that the certificate is made to
enable those banks executing same, and all banks which have subscribed
or msfy thereafter subscribe to the capital stock of such Federal reserve
bank, to avail themselves of the advantages of this act.
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The said organization certificate shall be acknowledged befoie a jviuge
of some court" of record or notary public; and shall be, togethei with
the acknowledgment thereof, authenticated by the seal of such court
or notary, transm itted to the Comptroller of the Currency, who shall
file record, and carefully preserve the same in his omce.
Upon the filing of such certificate with the Comptroller of the Currenev as aforesaid the said Federal reserve bank shall become a body
corporate and as such, and in the name designated in such organization
certificate, shall have power—
Tflrst To adoDt and use a corporate seal.
Second. To have succession for a period of 20 years from its organiza­
tion unless it is sooner dissolved by an act of Congress, or unless its
franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law.
Third. To make contracts.
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Fourth. To sue and be sued, complain and defend, m any court of
l a Fifth.eqTotyappoint by its board of directors, elected as hereinafter
provided, such officers as are not otherwise provided for in this act,
to define their duties, require bonds of them and fix the penalty thereof
to dismiss such officers or any of them as may be appointed by them at
pleasure, and to appoint others to fill their places.
Sixth. To prescribe by its board of directors by-laws not inconsistent
with law regulating the manner in which its general business may be
conducted, and the privileges granted to it by law may be exercised
anSevent£e<To exercise by its board of directors, os duly authorized
officers or agents, all powers specifically granted by the provisions of
this act and such incidental powers as shall be necessary to carry on
the business of banking w ithin the lim itations prescribed by this act.

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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE.

Eighth. Upon deposit with the Treasurer of the United States of any
bonds of the United States in the manner provided by existing law .re­
lating to national banks, to receive from the Comptroller of the Cur­
rency circulating notes in blank, registered and countersigned as pro­
vided by law, 'equal in amount to the par value of the bonds so de­
posited, such notes to be issued under the same conditions and pro­
visions of law which relate to the issue of circulating notes of national
banks secured by bonds of the United States bearing the circulating
P1B u tSno Federal reserve bank shall transact any business except such
as is incidental and necessarily preliminary to its organization until
it has been authorized by the Comptroller of tbe Currency to commence
business under the provisions of this act.
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Every Federal reserve bank shall be conducted under the supervision
and control of a board of directors.
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Tbe board of directors shall perform the duties usually appertaining
to the office of directors of banking associations and all such duties
as are prescribed by law.
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Said board shall administer the affairs of said bank fairly and im­
partially and without discrimination in favor of or against any member
bank or banks and shall, subject to the provisions of law and the
orders of the Federal reserve board, extend to each member ba.uk such
discounts, advancements, and accommodations as may be safely and
reasonably made with due regard for the claims and demands of other
member banks.
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Such hoard of directors shall be selected as hereinafter specified and
shall consist of nine members, holding office for three years, and di­
vided into three classes, designated as classes A, B, and C.
Class A shall consist of three members, who shall be chosen by and
be representative of the stock-holding banks.
_
Class B shall consist of three members, who at the time of their
election shall be actively engaged in their district, respectively, in com­
merce, in agriculture, and in some other pursuit.
Class C shall consist of three members, who shall be designated by
the B'ederal reserve board.
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No director of class B or of class C shall be an officer, director, em­
ployee, or stockholder of any bank.
Directors of class A and class B shall be. chosen in the following
manner:
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Tho chairman of the board of directors of the Federal reserve bank
of the district in which the bank is situated shall classify the member
banks of the district into three general groups or divisions. Each group
shall contain, as nearly as may be, one-third of the aggregate number
of the member banks of the district, and shall consist, as nearly as
may be, of banks of similar capitalization. The groups shall be desig­
nated by number by the chairman.
At a regularly called meeting of the board of directors of each member
bank in the district it shall elect by ballot one of its own members as
a district reserve elector and shall certify his name to the chairman of
the hoard of directors of the Federal reserve bank of the district. The
chairman shall establish lists of the district reserve electors thus named
by banks in each of the aforesaid three groups and shall transmit one
list to each elector in each group.
Every elector shall, within 15 days after the receipt of the said list,
certify to the chairman his first, second, aud other choices upon the list,
.’VfOjma preferential ballot, on a form furnished by the chairman of the
board' of directors of the Federal reserve hank of the district. Each
elector shall make a cross opposite the name of the first, second, and
other choices, for a director of class A and for a director of class B,
but shall not vote more than one choice for any one candidate.
Any candidate having a majority of all votes cast in the column of
first choice shall he declared elected. If no candidate have a majority
of all the votes in £he firat column, then there shall he added together the
votes cast by the'electors for such candidates In the second column to
the votes cast for ijjfe several candidates in the first column. If any
candidate then have a majority of the electors voting by adding to­
gether the first and second choices, he shall be declared elected. If no
candidate bave a majority of electors voting when the first and second
choices shall have been added, then the votes cast in the third column
for other choices shall be added together In like manner, and the can­
didate then having the highest number of votes shall be declared elected.
An immediate report of election shall be declared.
Three directors belonging to class C shall be appointed directly by
the Federal reserve board, and shall bave been for at least two years
residents of the district for which they are appointed, one of whom
shall be designated by said hoard as chairman of the hoard of directors
of the Federal reserve hank of the district to which he is appointed and
shall be designated by said board as “ Federal reserve agent.” He shall
be a person of tested banking experience ; and in addition to his duties
as chairman of the board of directors of the Federal; reserve bank of
the district to w'hich be is appointed he shall be required to maintain,
under regulations to be established by the Federal reserve board, a local
office of said board, which shall be situated on the premises of the I ederal reserve bank of the district. He shall make regular reports to the
Federal reserve board and shall act as its official representative for
the performance of the functions conferred upon it by this act. He
shall receive an annual compensation to be fixed by the Federal re­
serve board and paid monthly by the Federal reserve bank to which he
is designated. ..One of the directors of class C, who shall be a person
of tested banking experience, shall be appointed by tbe Federal reserve
board as deputy chairman and deputy Federal reserve agent to exercise
the powers of the chairman of the board and Federal reserve agent in
case of the absence or disability of his principal.
Directors of Federal reserve hanks shall receive, in addition to any
compensation otherwise provided, a reasonable allowance for necessary
expenses in attending meetings of their respective hoards, which amount
shall he paid by the respective Federal reserve banks. Any compensa­
tion that may be provided by boards of directors of Federal reserve
banks for members of such hoards shall be subject to review and subse­
quent readjustment a t any time by the Federal reserve board.
The reserve bank organization committee may, In organizing Federal
reserve banks for the first time, call such meetings of bank directors in
the several districts as may be necessary to carry out tbe purposes of
this act, and may exercise the functions herein conferred upon the
chairman of the hoard of directors of each Federal reserve bank pending
tbe complete organization of such hank.
At the first meeting of the full hoard of directors of each Federal
reserve bank after organization it shall be the duty of the directors of
classes A and B and C, respectively, to designate one of the members
of each class whose term of office shall expire in one year from the
1st of January nearest to date of such meeting, one whose term of
office shall expire at the end of two years from said date, and one whose
term of office shall expire at the end of three years from said date.
1 hereafter every director of a B'ederal reserve bank chosen as herein­




before provided shall hold office for a term of three years. Vacancies
that may occur m the several classes of directors of Federal reserve
banks may be filled in the manner provided for the original selection
such directors, such appointees to hold office for the unexpired terms
of their predecessors.
STOCK ISSUES ;

INCREASE

AND

DECREASE OF CAPITA!,.

.
1k.e capital stock of each Federal reserve hank shall be di­
vided into shares of $100 each. The outstanding capital stock shall be
increased from time to time as member banks increase their capital stock
and surplus or as additional banks become members, and may be de­
creased as member banks reduce their capital stock or surplus or cease
to be members. Shares of the capital stock of Federal reserve banks
owned by member banks shall not be transferable, nor be hypotheeable.
In case a membei bank increase its capital stock or surDlus it shall
thereupon subscribe for an additional amount ol; capital stock of the
Federal reserve hank of its district equal to 6 per cent of the said
increase, one-half of said subscription to be paid in the manner herein­
before provided for original subscription, and one-half subieet to call of
the Federal reserve board. A bank applying for stock in a Federal
reserve bank at any time after the organization thereof must subscribe
for an amount of the capital stock of the Federal reserve bank euual to
6 per cent of the paid-up capital stock and surplus o f said annlir-ant
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increase of capital stock of member banks, or on account of the increase
In the number of member banks, the board of directors shall cause to
be executed a certificate to the Comptroller of the Currency showin«- the
increase in capital stock, the amount paid in, and by whom paid” In
case a member bank reduces its capital stock it shall surrender a’ nroportionate amount of its holdings in the capital of said Federal reserve
bank, and in case a member bank goes into voluntary liquidation it shall
surrender all of its holdings of the capital stock of said Federal reserve
hank and be released from its stock subscription not previously ealled
In either case the shares surrendered shall be canceled and such member
bank shall receive in payment therefor, under regulations to be pre­
scribed by the Federal reserve hoard, a sum equal to its cash paid sub­
scriptions on the shares surrendered and one-half of 1 per cent a month
from the period of the last dividend, not to exceed the book value
thereof, less any liability of such member bank to the Federal reserve
hank.
Sec. 6. If any member bank shall he declared insolvent and a receiver
appointed therefor, the stock held by it in said Federal reserve bank
shall be canceled, and all cash-paid subscriptions on said stock with
one-half of 1 per cent per month from the period of last dividend, not
to exceed the book value thereof, shall be first applied to all debts of
the insolvent member bank to tho B’ederal reserve bank, and the bal­
ance, if any. shall be paid to. the receiver of the insolvent bank. When­
ever the capital stock of a Federal reserve bank is reduced, either on
account of a reduction in capital stock of any member bank or of the
liquidation or insolvency of such bank, the board of directors shall cause
to be executed a certificate to the Comptroller of tho Currency showing
such reduction of capital stock and the amount repaid to such bank. '
DIVISION OF EARNINGS.
Sec . 7. After all necessary expenses of a Federal reserve bank have

been paid or provided for, the stockholders shall be entitled, to receive
an annual dividend of 6 per cent on the paid-in capital stock, which
dividend shall be cumulative. One-lialf of the net earnings, after the
aforesaid dividend claims have been fully met, shall be paid into a sur­
plus fund until sucli fund shall amount to 40 per cent of the paid-in
capital stock of such bank,
and of the remaining
one-half, 50 percent
shall he paid to the United
States as a franchise tax, and 50 percent
shall bo paid to the United States as a trustee for the benefit of de­
positors in failed national banks, the money to be kept in and losses
from failures to be paid from it as a depositors’ insurance fund under
a division of tbe Treasury to be constituted and managed under such
regulations as may be prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury. All
net earnings derived by the United States from Federal reserve banks
shall be applied to the reduction of the outstanding, bonded indebted­
ness of the United States under regulations to be prescribed by the
Secretary of the Treasury. Should a Federal reserve bank be dissolved
or go into liquidation, any surplus remaining, after the payment of all
debts, dividend requirements as hereinbefore provided, and the par value
of the stock, shall be paid to and become the property of the' TTnii»d
States and shall be similarly applied.
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Every Federal reserve bank incorporated under the terms of this act
the capital stock and surplus therein and the income derived th e r e fr o m ’
shall be exempt from Federal, State, and local taxation excent in
respect to taxes upon real estate.
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Sec. 8. Any bank Incorporated by special law of anv State or of
Ignited States, or organized under the general laws of any State
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to entitle it to become a national banking association under the pro­
visions of existing laws, may, by vote of the shareholders owning not
less than o l per cent of the capital stock of such bank or banking
association, with the approval of the Comptroller of the Currency, and
acting through a committee, organize a national banking association
with any name approved by the said comptroller, and transfer its
business to such national hanking association : P rov id ed , h o w ev er That
said acts are not in contravention of the State or local law
The
directors thereof may continue to he the directors of the association
so organized until others are elected or appointed in accordance with
the provisions of the law. When the comptroller has given to such
hank or banking association a certificate that the provisions of this
act have been complied with, such bank or banking association and
all its stockholders, officers, and employees, shall have the same powers
and privileges, and shall be subject to the same duties, liabilities and
regulations, in all respects, as shall have been prescribed bv’ this
act and by the national banking act for associations originally or­
ganized as national banking associations.
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STATE BANKS AS MEMBERS.

S ec. 9. Any bank incorporated by special law of anv State or or­
ganized under the general laws of any State or of the United’ States
may make application to the reserve bank organization committee, pend­
ing organization, and thereafter to the Federal reserve board for the
right to subscribe (o the stock of the Federal reserve bank organized
or to be organized within the Federal reserve district where the applicflut 19 located. _Lno oi£?£inizo.tion committee of tine Federal reserve
board, under such rules and regulations as it V y prescribe! subject
to the provisions of tins section, may permit the applying bank to
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which the applying hank is located. Whenever the organization com­
mittee or the Federal reserve board shall permit the applying_ bank to
become a stockholder in the Federal reserve bank of the district, stock
shall, be issued and paid for under the rules and regulations of this
act provided for national banks which become stockholders in Federal
reserve banks.
The organization committee or the Federal reserve board shall establish by-laws for the general government of its conduct in acting
upon applications made by the State hanks and banking associations
and trust companies for stock ownership in Federal reserve hanks.
Such by-laws shall require applying banks not organized under Federal
law to comply with reserve and capital requirements and to submit
to the examination and regulations prescribed by the organization com­
mittee or by the Federal reserve hoard. No applying hank shall be
admitted to 'membership in a Federal reserve hank unless it possesses a
paid-up unimpaired capital sufficient to entitle it to become a national
banking association in the place where it is situated, under the pro­
visions of the national banking act.
Any bank becoming a member of a Federal reserve hank under the
provisions of this section shall, In addition to the regulations and re­
strictions hereinbefore provided, be required to conform to the provi­
sions of law imposed on the national banks respecting the limitation of
liability which may he incurred by any person, firm, or corporation to
such banks, tho piohibiticvi against making purchase of or loans on
stock of such banks, and the withdrawal or impairment of capital, or
the payment of unearned dividends, and to such rules and regulations
as the Federal reserve board may, in pursuance thereof, prescribe.
Such banks, and the officers, agents, and employees thereof, shall
also he subject to the provisions of and to tho penalties prescribed by
sections 5198, 5200, 5201, and 5208 and 5209 of the Revised Statutes.
The member banks shall also be required to make reports of the condi­
tions and of the payments of dividends to the comptroller, as provided
in sections 5211 and 5212 of the Revised Statutes, and shall be subject
to the penalties prescribed by section 5213 for the failure to make
such report.
Tf at any time it shall appear to tho Federal reserve board that a
banking association or trust company organized under the laws of any
State or of the United States and having become a member bank has
failed to comply with the provisions of this section or the regulations
of the Federal reserve board, it shall be within the power of the said
hoard, after hearing, to require such banking associtaion or trust com­
pany to surrender its stock in the Federal reserve bank; upon such
surrender the Federal reserve bank shall pay the cash-paid subscrip­
tions to the said stock with interest at the rate of one-half of 1 per
cent per month, computed from the last dividend, if earned, not to
exceed the book value thereof, less any liability to said Federal reserve
bank, except the subscription liability not previously called, which shall
bo canceled, and said Federal reserve bank shall, upon notice from the
Federal reserve board, be required to suspend said banking association
or trust company from further privileges of membership, and shall
within 30 days of such notice cancel and retire its stock and make pay­
ment therefor in the manner herein provided. The Federal reserve
board may restore membership upon due proof of compliance with the
conditions imposed by this section.
FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD.
Sec . 10. A Federal reserve board is hereby created which shall con-

,S enate, in selecting the six appointive members of the Federal re­
serve board, not more than one of whom shall be selected from any
one Federal reserve district, the President shall have due regard to a
fair representation of the different geographical divisions of the country.
The six members of the Federal reserve board appointed by the President and confirmed as aforesaid shall devote their entire time to the
business of the Federal reserve board and shall each receive an annual
salary of $10,000, together with actual necessary traveling expenses. Of
the six members thus appointed by the President at least two shall be
persons experienced in banking or finance. One shall be designated by the
President to serve for one, one for two, one for three, one for four, one
for five, and one for six years, and thereafter each member so ap­
pointed shall serve for a term of six years unless sooner removed for
cause by the President. Of the six persons thus appointed, one shall
be designated by the President as governor and one as vice governor of
the Federal reserve board. The governor of the Federal reserve board,
subject to its supervision, shall be the active executive officer. The
Secretary of the Treasury may assign offices in the Department of the
Treasury for the use of the Federal reserve board. Each member of
the Federal reserve hoard shall .within 15 days after notice of appoint­
ment make and subscribe to the oath of office.
The Federal reserve board shall have power to levy semiannually
upon the Federal reserve banks, in proportion to their capital stock
and surplus, an assessment sufficient to pay its estimated expenses and
salaries of its members and employees for the half year succeeding the
levying of such assessment, together with any deficit carried forward
from tlie preceding half year.
The first meeting of the Federal reserve board shall be held in Wash­
ington, D. O., as soon as may be after the passage of this act, at a date
to he fixed by the reserve bank organization committee. The Secretary
of the Treasury shall be ex officio chairman of the B'ederal reserve board.
No member of the Federal reserve board shall be an officer or director
of any bank, banking institution, trust company, or Federal reserve bank
nor hold stock in any bank, banking institution, or trust company ; and
before entering upon his duties as a member of the Federal reserve
board he shall certify under oath to the Secretary of the Treasury that
he has complied with this requirement. Whenever a vacancy shall oc­
cur, other than by expiration of term, among the six members of the
Federal reserve board appointed by the President, as above provided, a
successor shall be appointed by the President, with the advice and con­
sent of the Senate, to fill such vacancy, and when appointed he shall
hold office for the unexpired term of the member whose place he is
selected to fill.
The President shall have power to fill all vacancies that may happen
on the Federal reserve board during the recess of the Senate, by grant­
ing- commissions which shall expire at the end of the next session of the
Senate.
Nothing in this act contained shall be construed as taking away any
powers heretofore vested by law in the Secretary of the Treasury which
relate to the supervision, management, and control of tho Treasury De­

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The Federal reserve board shall annually make a full report of it«
operations to the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who shin
cause the same to be printed for the information of the Congress
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Section 324 of the Revised Statutes of the United States shall ho
amended so as to read as follows : “ There shall be in the Department
of the Treasury a bureau charged with the execution of all laws passed
by Congress relating to the issue and regulation of national eurrenev
secured by United States bonds and, under the general supervision of
the Federal reserve board, of all Federal reserve notes, the chief officer
of which bureau shall be called the Comptroller of the Currency and
shall perform his duties under the general directions of the Secretary of
the Treasury.”
Sec . 11. The Federal reserve board shall be authorized and em­
powered :
(a) To examine at its discretion the accounts, books, and affairs of
each Federal reserve bank and of each member bank and to require such
statements and reports as it may deem necessary. The said board shall
publish once each week a statement showing the condition of each Fed­
eral reserve hank and a consolidated statement for all Federal reserve
banks Such statements shall show in detail the assets and liabilities
of the Federal reserve banks, single and combined, and shall furnish
full information regarding the character of the money held as reserve
and the amount, nature, and maturities of the paper and other invest­
ments owned or held by Federal reserve banks.
(b) To permit or require Federal reserve banks to rediscount the dis­
counted paper of other Federal reserve banks at rates of interest to be
fixed each week or oftener by the Federal reserve board.
(c) To suspend for a period not exceeding 30 days, and from time to
time to renew such suspension for periods not exceeding 15 days, any
reserve requirement specified in this a c t : P rovid ed , That it shall estab­
lish a graduated tax upon the amounts by which the reserve require­
ments of this act may be permitted to fall below the level hereinafter
specified such tax to be uniform in its application to all Federal reserve
banks and to member banks, required to keep the same reserves.
(d) To supervise and regulate through the bureau under the charge
of the Comptroller of the Currency the issue and retirement of Federal
reserve notes, and to prescribe rules and regulations under which such
notes may he delivered by the comptroller to the Federal reserve agents
applying therefor.
(e) To add to the number of cities classified as reserve and central
reserve cities under existing law in'which national hanking associations
are subject to the reserve requirements set forth in section 20 of this
a c t ; or to reclassify existing reserve and central reserve cities or to
terminate their designation as such.
(f) To suspend or remove any officer or director of any Federal re­
serve bank, the cause of such removal to be forthwith communicated in
writing by the Federal reserve board to the removed officer or director
and to said hank.
(g) To require the writing off of doubtful or worthless assets upon
the books and balance sheets of Federal reserve banks.
(h) To suspend, for cause relating to violation of any of the pro­
visions of this act, the operations of any Federal reserve bank and take
possession thereof and administer the same during the period of sus­
pension.
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(i) To require bonds of Federal reserve agents, perform the duties,
functions, or services specified or implied in this act, and to make all
rules and regulations necessary to enable said board effectively to per­
form the same.
(j) To exercise general supervision over said Bederal reserve banks.
(k) To authorize member banks to use, as reserves, Federal reserve
notes, or bank notes based on United States bonds, to the extent that
said board may find necessary.
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(l) To grant by special permit to national banks applying therefor,
when not in contravention of State law, the right to act as trustee,
executor, administrator, or registrar of stocks and bonds under such
rules and regulations as the said board may prescribe.
FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL.

S ec. 12. There is hereby created a Federal advisory council, which
shall consist of as many members as there are Federal reserve districts.
Each Federal reserve bank by its board of directors shall annually se­
lect from its own Federal reserve district one member of said council,
who shall receive such compensation and allowances as may be fixed by
his board of directors subject to the approval of the Federal reserve
board. The meetings of said advisory council shall be held at Wash­
ington, D. C., at least four times each year, and oftener if called by
the Federal reserve board. Tho council may select its own_ officers and
adopt its own methods of procedure, and a majority of its members
shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of business. Vacancies in
the council shall be filled by the respective reserve banks, and members
selected to fill vacancies shall serve for the unexpired term.
The Federal advisory council shall have power, by itself or through
its officers, (1) to confer directly with the Federal reserve board on gen­
eral business conditions ; (2) to make oral or written representations
concerning matters w ithin the jurisdiction of said board; (3) to call for
information and to make recommendations in regard to discount rates,
rediscount business, note issues, reserve conditions in the various dis­
tricts, the purchase and sale of gold or securities by reserve banks, openmarket operations by said banks, and the general affairs of the reserve
banking system.
POWERS OF FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS.

S ec. 13. Any Federal reserve bank may receive from any of its mem­
ber banks, and from the United States, deposits of current funds in law­
ful money, national-bank notes, Federal reserve notes, or checks and
drafts upon solvent banks of the Federal reserve system, payable upon
presentation; or, solely for exchange purposes, may receive from oilier
Federal reserve banks deposits of current funds in lawful money,
national-bank notes, or checks and drafts upon solvent member or other
Federal reserve banks, payable upon presentation.
Upon the indorsement of any of its member banks, with a waiver of
demand notice and protest by such hank any Federal reserve bank may
discount notes, drafts, and bills nf exchange arising out of actual com­
mercial transactions; that is, notes, drafts, and hills of exchange issued
or drawn for agricultural, industrial, or commercial purposes, or the
proceeds of which have been used, or are to be used, for such purposes,
the Federal reserve hoard to have the right to determine or define the
character of the paper thus eligible for discount, w ithin the meaning of
this act. Nothing in this act contained shall be construed to prohibit
such notes, drafts, and bills of exchange, secured by staple agricultural
products, or other goods, wares, or merchandise, from being eligible for
such discount ; but such definition shall not include notes, drafts, or
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carrying or trading'in stocks, bonds, or other investment securities, ex­
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cept bonds and notes of- the Government of the United States. Notes,
drafts, and bills admitted to discount under the terms of this paragTaph
must have a maturity at the time of discount of not more than 90 days.
Any Federal reserve bank may discount acceptances which are based
on the importation or exportation or domestic shipment of goods and
which have a maturity at time of discount of not more than three
months, and indorsed "by at least one member bank. The amount of
acceptances so discounted shall at no time exceed one-half the paid-up
capital stock and surplus of the bank for which the rediscounts are
made.
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The aggregate of such notes and bills bearing the signature or indorse men t of any one person, company, firm, or corporation redis­
counted for any one bank shall at no time exceed 10 per cent of the
unimpaired capital and surplus of said bank ; but tins restriction shall
not apply to the discount of bills of exchange drawn in good faith
against actually existing values.
Any national bank may accept drafts or bills of exchange drawn
upon it and growing out of transactions involving the importation, ex­
portation, or domestic shipment of goods having not more than six
months si'dit to run : but no bank shall accept such bills to an amount
equal at any time in the aggregate to more than one-half its paid-up
capital stock and surplus.
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Section 5202 of the Revised Statutes of the United States is hereby
amended so as to read as follows : No association shall at any time be
indebted, or in any way liable, to an amount exceeding the amount of
its capital stock at such time actually paid in and remaining undi­
minished by losses or otherwise, except on account of demands of the
nature following:
First. Notes of circulation.
Second. Moneys deposited with or collected by the association.
Third. Bills of exchange or drafts drawn against money actually on
deposit to the credit of the association, or due thereto..
Fourth. Liabilities to the stockholders of the assopiation for divi­
dends and reserve profits.
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Fifth. Liabilities incurred under tlie provisions of this act.
The Federal reserve board may authorize the reserve bank of the
district to discount the direct obligations of member banks, secured by
the pledge and deposit of satisfactory securities ; but in no case shall
the amount so loaned by a Federal reserve bank exceed three-fourths of
the actual value of the securities so pledged.
The rediscount by any Federal reserve bank of any bills receivable
and of domestic and foreign bills of exchange and acceptances shall
be subject to such restrictions, limitations, and regulations as may be
imposed by the Federal reserve board.
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o p e r a t io n s .

Sec . 14. Any Federal reserve hank may, under rules and regulations
prescribed by the Federal reserve board, purchase and sell in the open
market, at home or abroad, either from or to domestic or foreign banks,
firms, corporations, or individuals, cable transfers and bankers’ ac­
ceptances and bills of exchange of the kinds and maturities by (his
act made eligible for redisco fitit with or without the indorsement of a
member bank.
Every Federal reserve bank sliall have power :
(a) To deal in gold coin and bullion at home or abroad, to make
loans thereon, exchange Federal reserve notes for gold, gold coin, or
gold certificates, and to contract for loans of gold coin or bullion,
giving therefor, when necessary, acceptable security, including the
hypothecation of United .States bonds Or other securities which Federal
reserve banks are authorized to h o ld ;
(b) To buy and sell, at homo or abroad, bonds and notes of the
United States, and bills, notes, revenue bonds, and warrants with a
maturity from date of purchase of not exceeding six months, issued
in anticipation of the collection of taxes or in anticipation of the
receipt of assured revenues by any State, county, district, political sub­
division, or municipality in the continental United States, such pur­
chases to be made in accordance with rules and regulations prescribed
by the Federal reserve hoard ;
(c) To purchase from member banks and to sell, with or without
its indorsement, bills of exchange arising out of commercial transac­
tions, as hereinbefore defined;
(d) To establish from time to time, subject to review and deter­
mination of the Federal reserve board, rates of discount to be charged
by the Federal reserve hank for each class of paper, which shall he
fixed with a view of accommodating commerce and business;
(e) To establish accounts with other Federal reserve banks for
exchange purposes and, with the consent of the Federal reserve board,
to open and maintain banking accounts in foreign countries, appoint
correspondents, and establish agencies in such countries wheresoever
it may deem best for the purpose of purchasing, selling, and collecting
bills of exchange, and to buy and sell, with or without its indorsement,
through such correspondents or agencies, bills of exchange arising out
of actual commercial transactions which have not more than 90 days
to run and which bear the signature of two or more responsible parties.
g o v er n m en t d e p o s it s .

S ec. 15. The moneys held in the general fund of the Treasury, except
the 5 per cent fund for the redemption of outstanding national-bank
notes and the funds provided in this act for the redemption of Federal
reserve notes may, upon the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury,
be deposited in Federal reserve banks, which banks, when required by
the Secretary of the Treasury, shall act as fiscal agents of tlie United
States ; and the revenues of the Government or any part thereof may be
deposited in such banks, and disbursements may be made by checks
drawn against such deposits.
No public funds of the Philippine Islands, or of the postal savings,
or any Government funds, shall be deposited in the continental United
States in any bank not belonging to the system established by this a c t :
P rovided, h ow ever, That nothing in this act shall be construed to deny
the right of the Secretary of the Treasury to use member banks as
depositories.
note issu es .

S ec. 1G. Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the
Federal reserve board for the purpose of making advances to Federal
reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents, as hereinafter set
forth and for no other purpose, are hereby authorized. The said notes
shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable for
aii taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in
gold on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in
the city of Washington, D. C., or in gold or lawful money at any Federal
reserve bank.
Any Federal reserve bank may make application to the local Federal
reserve agent for such amount of the Federal reserve notes herein­
before provided for as it may require. Such application shall be accom­




panied with a tender to the local Federal reserve agent of collateral
m amount equal to the sum of the Federal reserve notes thus applied
for and issued pursuant to such application. The collateral security
thu s_offered shall be notes and bills accepted for rediscount under the
provisions of section 13 of this act, and the Federal reserve agent shall
reserve board of all issues and with­
drawals of Federal reserve notes to^ and by the Federal reserve bank
to which he is accredited, th e said Federal reserve board shall be
authorized at any tune to call upon a Federal reserve hank f o r addi­
tional security to protect the Federal reserve notes iJsued to it
Every Fedeial resetve bank shall maintain reserves in gold or lawful
money of not less than do per cent against its deposits and its Fed­
eral reserve notes in actual circulation, but the amo nt of gold in the
Federal reserve bank, together with the amount deposited by it with
the Treasury, shall be at least equal to 38?, nor cent of the F e d e r a l
reserve notes issued to said bank and in actual cireulation -mel not
offset by gold or lawful money deposited with the Fedor a reserv- -Amt
The Federal reserve board may notify any Federal reserve bank whose
lawful reserve shall he below the amount required to be maintained
to make good such reserve, and if such bank shall fail
thereafter so to make good its lawful reserve, the F ed era l' r e s e r v e
board may suspend and take possession of such reserve bank •md
administer the same during the period of suspension. Notes so paid out
shall bear upon their faces a distinctive letter and serial number
which shall be assigned by the Federal reserve hoard to each Federal
reserve hank. Whenever Federal reserve notes issued through one F e d ­
eral reserve bank shall be received by another Federal reserve bank they
shall be promptly returned for credit or redemption to the Federal
reserve bank through which they were originally issued. No Federal
reserve bank shall pay out notes issued through another under nenaltv
of a tax of 10 per cent upon the face value of notes so "paid out
Notes presented for redemption at the Treasury of the United States
shall he paid out of the redemption fund and returned to the Federal
reserve banks through which they were originally issued. Federal re­
serve notes received by the Treasury otherwise than for redemption
may be exchanged for gold out of the redemption fund hereinafter
be returned by the Federal reserve agents to the Comptroller of the
Currency for cancellation and destruction.
The Federal reserve board shall require each Federal reserve hank to
maintain on deposit in the Treasury of the United States a sum in ^old
sufficient, in the judgment of the Secretary of the Treasury, for “the
redemption of the Federal reserve notes issued to such hank, but in no
event less than o per cent , but such deposit of gold shall he counted
and included as part of the 33 h per cent reserve hereinbefore required
The board shall have the right, acting through the Federal reserve
agent, to grant in whole or in part or to reject entirely the applica­
tion of any Federal reserve bank for Federal reserve notes ; but to the
extent that such application may be granted the Federal reserve board
shall, through its local Federal reserve agent, supply Federal reserve
notes to the bank so applying, and such bank shall bo charged with the
amount of such notes and shall pay such rate of interest on said amount
as may be established by the Federal reserve board, and the amount of
such Federal reserve notes so issued to any such bank shall, upon
delivery, become a first and paramount lien on all the assets of such
Any Federal reserve bank may at any time reduce its liability for
outstanding Federal reserve notes by depositing with the Federal re­
serve agent its Federal reserve notes, gold, gold certificates, or lawful
money of the United States. Federal reserve notes so deposited shall
not be reissued, except upon compliance with the conditions of an originol issue.
The Federal reserve agent shall hold such gold, gold certificates, or
lawful money available exclusively for exchange for the outstanding
Federal reserve notes when offered by the reserve bank of which he is a
director. Upon the request of the Secretary of the Treasury the Federal
reserve board shall require the Federal reserve agent to transmit so
much of said gold to the Treasury of the United States as may be re­
quired for the exclusive purpose of the redemption of such notes.
Any Federal reserve bank may. at its discretion, withdraw collateral
deposited with the local Federal reserve agent for the protection of its
Federal reserve notes deposited with it and shall at the same time sub­
stitute therefor other like collateral of equal amount, with the approval
of the Federal reserve agent, under regulations to be prescribed by the
Federal reserve hoard.
In order to furnish suitable notes for circulation as Federal reserve
notes, the Comptroller of the Currency shall, under the direction of tlie
Secretary of the Treasury, cause plates and dies to be engraved in the
best manner to guard against counterfeits and fraudulent alterations,
and shall have printed therefrom and numbered such quantities of such
notes of the denominations of $1, $2, .$5, .$10, $20, $50, $100, as may
be required to supply the Federal reserve banks. Such notes shall be in
form and tenor as directed by the Secretary of the Treasury under the
provisions of this Act and shall bear the distinctive numbers of the
several Federal reserve hanks through which they are issued.
When such notes have been prepared, they shall be deposited in the
Treasury, or in the subtreasury or mint of" the United States nearest
the place of business of each Federal reserve bank, and shall be held
for the use of such bank subject to the order of the Comptroller of the
Currency for their delivery, as provided by this Act.
Tlie plates and dies to be procured by the Comptroller of the Cur­
rency for the printing of such circulating n otes-sh all remain under
his control and direction, and the expenses necessarily incurred in
executing the laws relating to the procuring of such notes', and all other
sufficient amount to cover the expenses herein provided for
The examination of plates, dies, bed pieces, etc., and regulations
relating to such examination of plates, dies, etc., of national-bank
notes provided for in section 5174, Revised Statutes, is hereby ex­
tended to include Federal reserve notes herein provided for
J
Any appropriation heretofore made out of the general funds of tlie
Treasury for engraving plates and dies, the purchase of distinctive
paper, or to cover any other expense in connection with the printing of
national-bank notes or notes provided for by the act of May 30 1908
and any distinctive paper that may be on hand at the time ’of the
passage of this act may be used in the discretion of the Secretary for
the purposes of this act, and should the appropriations heretofore made
be Insufficient to meet the requirements of this act in addition to circu­
lating n o tes provided tor by existing law, the Secretary is hereby
authorized to use so much ofainy lunds in the Treasury not otherwise

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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE.

appropriated for the purpose of furnishing the notes aforesaid: P ro ­
vided. how ever, That nothing in this section contained shall be con­
strued as exempting national banks or I ederal reserve banks from their
liability to reimburse the United States for any expenses incurred in
printing and issuing circulating notes.
Every Federal reserve bank shall receive on deposit from member
banks or from Federal reserve banks checks and drafts drawn upon any
of its depositors, and when remitted by a Federal reserve bank, checks
and drafts drawn by any depositor in any other Federal reserve hank or
member hank upon funds to the credit of said depositor in said reserve
bank or member bank. Nothing herein contained shall be construed as
prohibiting a member bank from making reasonable charges for cheeks
and drafts so debited to its account, or for collecting and remitting
funds or for exchange sold to its patrons. The Federal reserve board
may by rule, fix the charges to be collected by the member banks from
its natrons whose checks are cleared through the Federal reserve bank
and the charge which may he imposed for the service of clearing or col­
lection rendered by tbc Federal reserve bank.
The Federal reserve board shall make and promulgate from time to
time regulations governing the transfer of funds and charges therefor
among Federal reserve banks and their branches, and may at its dis­
cretion exercise the functions of a clearing house for such Federal
reserve banks, or may designate a Federal reserve bank to exercise
such functions, and may also require each such bank to exercise the
functions of a clearing house for its member banks.
Sec . 17. That so much of the provisions of section 5159 of the Re­
vised Statutes of the United States, and section 4 of the act of June
20, 1874, and section 8 of the act of July 12, 1882, and of any other
provisions of existing statutes, as require that before any national bank­
ing association shall be authorized to commence banking business it
shall transfer and deliver to the Treasurer of the United States a
stated amount of United States registered bonds be, and tbe same is
hereby, repealed.
Shc. 18. Any member bank desiring to retire the whole or any part
of its circulating notes may file with the Treasurer of the United States
an application to sell for its account, at par and interest, United States
bonds securing circulation to be retired.
.
1
.
Tbe Treasurer shall, at the end of each quarterly period, furnish the
Federal reserve board with a list of such applications, and the Jbed­
eral reserve board may, in its discretion, require tlie Federal reserve
banks to purchase such bonds from tlie banks whose applications have
been tiled with the Treasurer at least 10 days before the end of any
quarterly period at which the Federal reserve board may direct tbe
purchase to be made. Upon notice from the Treasurer of the amount

D ecem bee 1

In its vaults six-eighteenths thereof.
In the Federal reserve hank for a period of six months after the
aforesaid at least three-eighteenths, and permanently thereafter JT?
eighteenths.
serves shall be held in its own vaults or in the Federal resetvo h o lt
at its option.
uank

reserves, not exceeding one-half 'of each installment, eligible paper
described in section 14 properly indorsed and acceptable to the said
reserve bank.

trust company shall be construed, within the meaning of this section 1
as if they were reserve deposits in a national hank in a reserve ov
central reserve city for a period of three years after the Secretary 0r
the Treasury shall have officially announced the establishment of «
Federal reserve bank in the district in which such State bank or trust
company is situate. Except as thus provided no member bank shah
keen on deposit with any nonmember bank a sum m excess of lo nPt.
cent of its own paid-up capital and surplus. No member bank shah
extend-directly or indirectly the benefits of this system to a noninember
hank, except upon written permission of the Federal reserve hoard
under penalty of suspension.
The reserve carried by a member bank with a. Federal reserve hank
may under the regulations and subject to such penalties as may
prescribed by tlie Federal reserve board, be checked against and with
drawn by such member bank for the purpose of meeting existing p i
bilities : P rov id ed , h o w ever, That no bank shall at any time make new
loans or shall pay any dividends unless and until the total reserve
required by law is fully restored.
United States banks located in Alaska or outside the continent..,
United States may remain nonmember banks, and shall in that evenr
maintain reserves and comply with ail the conditions now provided i »
law regulating them ; or said banks, except in the Philippine Islands
may, with the consent of the reserv.e hoard, become member banks of
anv one of the reserve districts, and shall, in that event, take stock
maintain reserves, and be subject to all the other provisions of this a(J ’
Sec 20. So much of sections 2 and 3 of the act of June 20, 1874
entitled “An act fixing the amount of United States notes, providing
'hiding
for tl/
a redistribution
national-bank
currency,
other
p,u?
iVJ*
__ _ of
_ _ tlie
_
—
.
_ . and for
#
-'1
' phi.
poses,” as provides that the fund deposited by any national banking
association with the Treasurer of the United States for the redemption
of its notes shall be counted as a part of its lawful reserve as provided
in the act aforesaid, be, and the same is hereby, repealed. And frob,
and after the passage of this act such fund of 5 per cent shall hi no
case be counted by any national banking association as a part of its
lawful reserve.

posit lawful money
,,
purchase price of such bonds, and the Treasurer shall pay to the mem ­
ber bank selling such bonds any balance due after deducting a sufficient
sum to redeem its outstanding notes secured by such bonds, which
notes shall be canceled and permanently retired when redeemed.
The Federal reserve banks purchasing such bonds shall be required to
BANK EXAMINATIONS.
take out an amount of circulating notes equal to tlie amount of na­
tional-bank notes outstanding against such bonds.
21 Every member bank shall be examined by the Comptroller 0f
Upon the deposit with the Treasurer of the United States bonds so theSec
Currency at least twice in each calendar year and as much oftener
purchased, or any bonds with the circulating privilege acquired under as the
Federal reserve board shall consider necessary. The Federal
section 4 of this act, any Federal reserve bank making such deposit in
the manner provided by existing law shall be entitled to receive from reserve board may authorize examinations by the State authorities to be
the Comptroller of the* Currency circulating notes in blank, registered accepted in the case of State banks and trust companies, and may
and countersigned as provided by law, equal in amount to the par value any time direct the holding of a special examination. The person rnak
of the bonds so deposited
Such notes shall bo the obligations of the ing the examination of any member bank shall have power to call to­
Federal reserve bank procuring same, and shall be in form prescribed by gether a quorum of the directors of such hank, who shall, under oath
the Secretary of the Treasury, and to the same tenor and effect as state to such examiner the character and circumstances of such of
national-bank notes now provided by law. They shall be issued under loans or discounts as he may designate. Tlie Federal reserve board
the same terms and conditions as national-bank notes. United States shall fix the salaries of all bank examiners and make report thereof to
bonds bought by a Federal reserve bank against which there are no out­ Congress. The expense of the examinations herein provided for shall i)6
standing national-bank notes may be exchanged at the Treasury for assessed by authority of tlie Federal reserve board upon the banks
one-year gold notes bearing 3 per cent interest. In case of such ex­ examined in proportion to nssets or resources held by such banks upon
change for one-year notes the reserve bank shall be bound to pay such the dates when the various banks are examined.
In addition to the examinations made and conducted by the Comonotes and to receive in payment thereof new 8 per cent one-year Treas­
troller of the Currency, every Federal reserve bank may, w ith the ap­
ury gold notes year by year for the period of 20 years.
proval
of the Federal reserve agent or of the Federal reserve board
BANK KESEBVES.
provide for special examination of member banks witbin its district’
S ec. 19. Demand liabilities within the meaning of this act shall com­ Such examination shall be so conducted as to inform the Federal reI
prise all liabilities maturing within 30 days, and time deposits shall serve bank under whose auspices it is carried on of the condition of its
comprise all deposits payable after 30 days.
member banks and of the lines of credit which are being extended by
When the Secretary of the Treasury shall have officially announced, them. Every Federal reserve bank shall at ail times furnish to tlie
In such manner as he may elect, the establishment of a Federal reserve Federal reserve board such information as may be demanded by the
bank in any district, every subscribing member bank shall establish and latter concerning the condition of any member bank within the district
maintain reserves as follows :
the said Federal reserve bank.
(a) A bank not in a reserve or central reserve city as now or here­ of No
bank shall be subject to any visitorial powers other than such as
after defined shall hold and maintain reserves equal to 12 per cent or are authorized by law or vested in the courts of justice, or such as
the aggregate amount of its demand liabilities and 5 per cent of its shall be or shall have been exercised or directed by Congress, or either
time deposits, as follow s:
„
thereof, or any committee thereof.
In its vaults for a period of 24 months after said date four-twelfths House
The Federal reserve board shall, at least once each year, order an
thereof.
examination of each Federal reserve bank, and upon joint application
In the Federal reserve bank of its district for a period of 6 months of
10 member banks the Federal reserve board shall order a special
after said date, two-twelfths, and for each succeeding 6 months an addi­ examination
and report of the condition of any Federal reserve bank.
tional one-twelfth, until live-twelfths have been so deposited, which
S
ec . 22. No member bank or any officer, director, or employee thereof
shall be the amount permanently required.
shall hereafter make any loan or grant any gratuity to any examiner
For a period of 24 months after said date the balance of the reservos of
such bank. Any bank officer, director, or employee violating this
may be held in its own vaults, or in the Federal reserve bank, or in provision
shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be im­
banks in reserve or central reserve cities as now defined by law.
prisoned not exceeding one year or fined not more than $o, 0 0 0 , of
After said 24 months’ period said reserves, other than those herein­ both
;
and
fined a further sum equal to the money so loaned ov gratuity
before required to be held in the reserve bank, shall be held in tlie given. Any
examiner accepting a loan or gratuity from any bank
vaults of the member bank or in the Federal reserve bank, or in both, examined by him
or from an oflicer, director, or employee thereof shall
at its option.
be
deemed
guilty
of a misdemeanor and shall be imprisoned not ex(b) A bank in a reserve city, as now or hereafter defined, shall hold ceeding one year or
fined not more than $5,000, or both ; and fined a
and maintain reserves equal to 15 per cent of the aggregate amount of further
sum
equal
to the money so loaned or gratuity given ; and shall
its demand liabilities and 5 per cent of its time deposits, as follows :
forever thereafter be disqualified from holding office as a nationalIn its vaults six-eighteenths thereof.
In the Federal reserve bank of its district for a period of 6 months bank examiner. No national-bank examiner shall perform any other
after the date aforesaid at least three-fifteenths, and for each succeed­ service for compensation while holding such office for any bank or
ing 0 months an additional one-fifteenth, until six-fifteenths have, been officer, director, or employee thereof.
Other than the usual salary or director’s -fe e paid to any officer,
so deposited, which shall be the amount permanently required.
After said 24 months’ period all of said reserves, except those herein­ director, or employee of a member bank and other Ilian a reasonable fee
paid
by said bank to such officer, director, or employee for services
before required to be held permanently in the Federal reserve bank, shall
be held in its vaults or in the Federal reserve bank, or in both, at its rendered to such bank, no officer, director, employee, or attorney of a
member bank shall he a beneficiary of or receive, directly or indirectly,
option.A bank ln a centl.ay reserve city, as now or hereafter defined, any fee, commission, gift, or other consideration for or in connection
shall hold and maintain a reserve equal to 18 per cent of the aggre­ with any transaction or business of the bank. No examiner, public or
gate amount of its demand liabilities and 5 per cent of its time deposits, private, shall disclose the names of borrowers or the collateral for
loans of a member bank to other than the proper officers of such bank
as follows.




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1913.

without first having obtained the express permission in writing from
the Comptroller of the Currency, except when ordered to do so by a
Court of competent jurisdiction, or by direction of the Congress ol the
United States, or either House thereof, er any committee thereof. Any
person violating any provision of this section shall be punished by a
fine of not exceeding $5,000 or by imprisonment not exceeding one year,
or both.
.
Except so far as already provided in existing laws this provision
shall not take effect until 60 days after the passage of this act.
Sec. 23. The stockholders of every national banking association shall
be held individually responsible for all contracts, debts, and engage­
ments of such association, each to the amount of his stock therein, at
the par value thereof in addition to the amount invested in such stock.
The stockholders in any national banking association who shall nave
transferred their shares or registered the transfer thereof within oO
days next before the date of the failure of such association to meet its
obligations, or with knowledge of such impending failure, shall be
liable to the same extent as if they had made no such transfer, to the
extent that the subsequent transferee fails to meet such liability but
this provision shall not be construed to affect in any way any recourse
which such shareholders might otherwise have against those in whose
names such shares are registered at the time of such failure.
LOANS ON FARM LANDS,

Sec. 24. Any national hanking association not situated in a reserve
city or central reserve city may make loans secured by improved and
unencumbered farm land, situated within its Federal reserve district,
hut no such loan shall be made for a longer time than five years nor
for an amount exceeding 50 per cent of the actual vaiue of the property
offered as security. Any such bank may make such loans in an aggre­
gate sum equal to 25 per cent of its capital and surplus.
The Federal reserve board shall have power from time to time to
add to the list of cities in which national banks shall not be permitted
to make loans secured upon real estate in the manner described in this
section.

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M r. O W E N . O f c o u r s e I u n d e r s t a n d t h a t . I d o n o t in te n d
to in t e r f e r e a t a ll w it h t h e u n a n im o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t w it h
r e g a r d to t h e H e t c h H e t c h y b ill.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e q u e s t io n i s o n t h e 'a m en d m en t
p r o p o se d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a .
M r. O W E N . I f n o S e n a to r i s r e a d y to d is c u s s t h e m a tte r , I
a s k t h a t it b e la id a s id e f o r t h e p r e s e n t.
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
I s th e r e o b je c tio n ?
T h e C h a ir
h e a r s none.
M r. O W E N . I m o v e t h a t t h e S e n a te a d jo u r n .
T h e m o tio n w a s a g r e e d to , a n d ( a t 9 o ’c lo c k a n d 18 m in u t e s
p. m .) t h e S e n a te a d jo u r n e d u n til to -m o r r o w , T u e s d a y D e c e m ­
b e r 2, 1913, a t 11 o ’c lo c k a . in.

H O USE OF r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s :
M

onday,

December 1, 1913.

T ld s b e in g th e d a y d e s ig n a t e d b y t h e C o n s t it u t io n f o r t h e
a n n u a l, m e e t in g o f C o n g r e s s, t h e M e m b e r s o f t h e H o u s e o f
R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s a s s e m b le d in t h e ir H a ll f o r t h e s e c o n d s e s s io n
o f t h e S ix ty - t h ir d C o n g r e ss, a n d a t 12 o ’c lo c k n o o n w e r e c a lle d
to o r d e r by t h e S p e a k e r .

\

PRAYER.

T h e C h a p la in , R e v . H e n r y N . C o u d e n , D . D ., o ffe r e d t h e
f o llo w in g p r a y e r :
“ O u r so u l w a it e th f o r t h e L o r d ; H e i s o u r h e lp a n d s h ie ld .
FOREIGN BRANCHES.
F o r o u r h e a r t s h a l l r e j o ic e in H im , b e c a u s e w e h a v e t r u s t e d
Sec. 25. Any national banking association possessing a capital and
surplus of $1,000,000 or more may file application with the Federal in H is h o ly n a m e . L e t T h y m e r c y , O L o r d , b e u p o n u s a c ­
reserve board, upon such conditions and under such regulations as may c o r d in g a s w e h ojje in T h e e .”
be prescribed by the said board, for the purpose of securing authority
M a y w e r e a liz e , O G od, t h a t so m e h o w o u r s o u l i s to u c h e d
to establish branches in foreign countries or dependencies of the United
States for the furtherance of the foreign commerce of the United States fr o m e v e r y a n g le b y T h y s o u l ; t h a t to c o n s c io u s ly liv e in T h e e ,
and to act, if required to do so, as fiscal agents of the United States. th r o u g h T h e e , f o r T h e e is l i f e e t e r n a l. U n d e r t h e d is p e n s a tio n
Such application shall specify, in addition to the name and capital of
the banking association filing it, the place or places where the banking o f T h y p r o v id e n c e w e s t a n d h e r e to -d a y u p o n t h e t h r e s h o ld o f
operations proposed are to be carried on and the amount of capital set t h e r e g u la r s e s s io n o r th e S ix t y - t h ir d C o n g r e s s, c o n f r o n te d *by
aside by the said banking association filing such application for the g r e a t e c o n o m ic a l, s o c ia l, a n d p s y c h o lo g ic a l p r o b le m s, w h ic h
conduct of its foreign business at the branches proposed by it to be in v o lv e t h e w e lf a r e o f t h e in d iv id u a l, t h e h o m e , t h e G o v e r n ­
established in such place or places. The Federal reserve board shall
have power to approve or to reject such application if, in its judgment, m e n t, a n d o u r r e lig io u s a s p ir a t io n s . H e n c e w e p a u s e a n d p r a y
the amount of capital proposed to be set aside for the conduct of for­ m o s t f e r v e n t ly t h a t T h y w is d o m m a y g u id e a n d T h y s t r e n g t h
eign business is inadequate or if for other reasons the granting of such s u s t a in t h e s e T h y s e r v a n t s i p t h e ir d e lib e r a tio n s .
application is deemed inexpedient.
E s p e c ia lly b e w it h t h e S p e a k e r o f t h i s H o u s e t h a t w i t h c le a r
Every national banking association which shall receive authority
to establish foreign branches shall be required at all times to furnish v is io n a n d firm h a n d h e m a y g u id e to t h e b e s t r e s u lts . B e T h o u
information concening the condition of such branches to the Comp­ t h e c o u n s e lo r o f o u r P r e s id e n t a u d h is a s s o c ia t e s t h a t t h e
troller of the Currency upon demand, and the Federal reserve hoard
may order special examipations of the said foreign branches at such a f fa ir s o f S ta t e m a y b e w is e ly . a n d a m ic a b ly a d ju s te d . M a y
time or times as it may deem best. Every such national banking asso­ T h y j u d g m e n t s b e t h e j u d g m e n t ! .o f t h e j u d ic ia r y t h a t j u s t ic e
ciation shall conduct the accounts of each foreign branch independently
of the accounts of other foreign branches established by it and of its te m p e r e d w it h m e r c y m a y o b ta in . T h a t w e m a y g r o w in e v e r y ­
home office, and shall at the end of each fiscal period transfer to its t h in g t h a t p e r t a in s to t h e w e lf a r e ~-pf n o t o n ly o u r p e o p le b u t
general ledger the profit or loss accruing at each branch as a separate o f a ll p e o p le s a n d p e a c e a n d r ig h t e o u s n e s s m o re a n d m o r e
item.
a b o u n d . T o t b e g lo r y a n d h o n o r o f T h y h o ly n a m e . A m e n .

Sec. 26. All provisions of law inconsistent with or superseded by
any of the provisions of this act are to that extent and to that extent
only hereby repealed. Nothing in this act contained shall be construed
to repeal the parity provision or provisions contained in an act approved
March 14, 1900, entitled “An act to define and fix the standard of
value, to maintain the parity of all forms of money issued or coined
by the United States, to refund the public debt, and for other purposes,”
and the Secretary of the Treasury may for such purposes, or to
strengthen the gold reserve, borrow gold on the security of United
States bonds or for one-year notes bearing interest at a rate of not
to exceed 3 per cent per annum, or sell the same if necessary to obtain
gold. When the funds of the Treasury on hand justify, he may pur­
chase and retire such outstanding bonds and notes.
. .
S ec. 27. The provisions of the act of May 30, 1908, authorizing
national currency associations, the issue of additional national-hank
circulation, and creating a National Monetary Commission, which ex­
pires by limitation under the terms of such act on the 30th day _of
•lune, 1914, are hereby extended to June 30, 1915, and sections 5153,
5172, 5191, and 5214 of the Revised Statutes of the United States,
which were amended by the act of May 20, 1908, are hereby reenacted
to read as such sections read prior to May 20, 1908, subject to such
amendments or modifications as are prescribed in this act.
Sec. 28. If any clause, sentence, paragraph, or part of this act
shall for any reason be adjudged by any court of competent jurisdiction
to be invalid, such judgment shall not affect, impair, or invalidate the
remainder of this act, but shall be confined in its operation to the
clause, sentence, paragraph, or part thereof directly involved in the
controversy in which such judgment shall have been rendered.

CALL OF THE EOLL BY STATES.
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e C le r k w i l l c a ll t h e r o ll b y S ta t e s .
T h e C le r k c a lle d t h e r o ll b y S tates', w h e n t h e f o llo w in g
M em b ers resp on d ed
ALABAMA.

George W. Taylor.
S. Hubert Dent, jr.
Henry D. Clayton.
Fred L. Blackmon.
J. Thomas Heflin.

ARIZONA.

Carl Hayden.
ARKANSAS.

Thaddeus H. Caraway.
William A. Oldfield.
John C. Floyd.
Otis T. Wingo.
William Kent.
John E. Raker.
Charles F. Curry.
Julius Kahn.
Denver S. Church.

Sec. 29. The right to amend, alter, or repeal this act is hereby
expressly reserved.

Edward T. Taylor.

T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
T lio q u e s t io n is o n t h e a m e n d ­
m e n t p r o p o se d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a .
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , s e v e r a l S e n a to r s h a v e e x p r e s s e d
a d e s ir e to s p e a k to -m o r r o w o n t h i s m a tte r , a n d I s h a ll a s k t h a t
it b e te m p o r a r ily la id a s id e n o w ; b u t I s h o u ld lik e t o s a y t h a t
w h e n w e c o m e to c o n s id e r it I h o p e t h a t M e m b e r s o f t h e S e n a te
w h o d e s ir e to e x p r e s s t h e m s e lv e s u p o n i t w i l l b e p r e p a r e d to
go o n w i t h it, b e c a u s e I s h a ll f e e l o b lig e d to a s k f o r a v o te , s e c ­
tio n b y s e c tio n , a s w e c o m e to it , a n d I d e s ir e t h a t S e n a to r s
a h a ’l b e p r e p a r e d to o ffe r a m e n d m e n ts i f t h e y w is h to do so.
M r. G A L L IX H E R . T h e S e n a to r w i l l n o t f o r g e t t h a t w e h a v e
a u n a n im o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t w h ic h t a k e s p r e c e d e n c e t o ­
m o rro w .

Augustine Lonergan.
Thomas L. Reilly.




Richmond P. Hobson.
John L. Burnett.
Oscar W. Underwood.
John W. Abercrombie.

H. M. .Tacoway.
Samuel M. Taylor.
William S. Goodwin.
CALIFORNIA.

Everis A. Hayes.
C. W. Bell.
William D. Stephens,
William Kettner.
COLORADO.

Edward Keating,
CONNECTICUT.

Jeremiah Donovan.
William Kennedy.
DELAWARE.

Franklin Broekson.
FLORIDA.

Stephen M. Sparkman.
Frank Clark.

Emmett IVilson.
Claude L’Engle.
GEORGIA.

Frank Park.
Charles It. Crisp.
William C. Adamson.
Gordon Lee.
Burton L. French.

Samuel J. Tribble.
Thomas W. Hardwick.
Dudley M. Hughes.
IDAHO.

Addison T. Smith.

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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— HOUSE.
ILLINOIS.

Martin B. Madden.
James R. Mann.
George K. Gorman.
James T. McDermott.
Adolph .T. Sabath.
James McAndrews.
Frank Btiehanan.
Charles M. Thomson.
Ira C. Copley.
William IT. Hinebaugh.
John C. McKenzie.
Clyde H. Tavenner.
Charles Lieb.
William E. Cox.
Lincoln Dixon.
Ralph W. Moss.
Finly II. Gray.
Charles A. Ivorhly.

Claudius IT. Stone.
Louis FitzHp'nry.
Frank T. OTlair.
Charles M. Bore hers.
Henry T. Rainey.
James M. Graham.
William: N. Balts.
Martin EX Foster.
II. Robert Fowler.
Robert P. Hill.
William E. Williams.
INDIANA.

John A. M. Adair.
Martin A. Morrison.
•John B. Peterson.
George W. Rauch.
Cyrus Cline.
Henry A. Barnhart.
IOWA.

Charles A. Kennedy.
James W. Good.
S. Kirkpatrick.

Horace M. Towner.
Frank P. Woods.
George C. Scott.
KANSAS.

Daniel R. Anthony, jr.
Philip P. Campbell.
Dudley Doolittle
A. W. Barkley.
Robert y. Thomas, jr.
Ben Johnson.
Swagar Sherley.

Guy T. Helvering.
Victor Murdock.
KENTUCKY.

Arthur B. Rouse.
William J. Fields.
John W. Langley.
Caleb Powers.
LOUISIANA.

Albert Estopinal.
II. Garland Duprd.
John T. Watkins.

Walter Elder.
L. Lazaro.
James II. Aswell.
MAINE.

Asher C. Hinds.
Daniel J. McGil liicurldy.

John A. Peters.
Frank E. Guernsey.
MARYLAND.

,T. Harry Covington.
J. Fred. C. Talbott.
Charles P. Coady.

,T. Charles Lhnihicum.
Frank O. Smith.
David J. Lewis.
MASSACHU SETTS.

Allen T. Treadway.
Frederick H. Gillett.
Calvin D. Paige.
Samuel K. Winslow.
John J. Rogers.
Augustus I’. Gardner.
Frederick S. Dei trick.

William F. Murray.
Andrew J. Peters.
James- ML Curley.
John J. Mitchell.
Edward Gilmore.
William S. Greene.
Thomas C. Thacher.

Henry George, jr.
Henry Bruckner.
Joseph A. Goulden.
Woodson It. Oglesby.
Benjamin I. Taylor.
Edmund Platt.
Peter G. Ten Eyck.

Samuel Wallin.
Charles A. Talcott.
George W. Fairchild.
»*ohn II. Clancy.
Bereno BL Vuvno.
Edwin ft, Underhill.
Henry G. Danfort it.
NORTH CAROLINA.

Hannibal- L Godwin.
Robert N. Page
Robert L. Doughton.

Claude Kitchin.
Edward W. Pou.
Charles M. Stedman.

NORTH DAKOTA.

Henry T. Ilelgesen.

George M. Voting,
OHIO.

John A. Key.
William G. Sharp.
George White.
William B. Francis.
William A. Ashbrook.
John J. Whltaere.
Ellsworth R. Bathrick.
William Gordon.
Robert J. Bu-lkloy.
Robert Grosser.

Stanley E. Bowdle.
Alfred G. Allen.
Warren Hard.
J. Heavy Goelte.
Simeon D. Fesa.
J. D. Post.
Frank IV. Willis.
Isaac R. Sherwood.
Robert M. Switzer.
Horatio C. Claypool.
Clement Brumbaugh.

OKLAHOMA.

William IT. Murray.
Claude Weaver.

Dick T. Morgan.
Charles D. Carter.
Scott Ferris.

OREGON.

A.. W. Rafferty.

Willis C. Hawley.
Nicholas J. Sinnott.

PENNSYLVANIA.

George S. Graham.
J. Hampton Moore.
G. W. Edmonds.
Michael Donohoe,
J. Washington Hogue.
Robert IC. Difenderfer.
William W. (driest.
John R. Farr.
John J. Casey.
Robert E. Lee.
Edgar It. ICtess.
Warren W. Bailey.
Andrew R. Brodbeck,

Samuel W. Smith.
Louis C. Cramton.
Francis O'. Lindquist.
William J. MacDonald.
Patrick H. Kelley.
MINNESOTA.

Sydney Anderson.
Charles R. Davis.
Frederick C. Stevens.
George It. Smith.

Charles A. Lindbergh.
Andrew J. Volstead.
Ilalvor Steene-rson.
James Manahan.
MISSISSIPPI.

Ezekiel S. Candler, jr.
Hubert D. Stephens.
Benjamin G. Humphreys.
Thomas U. Sisson.

Samuel A. Witherspoon.
IV. P. Harrison.
Percy E. Quin.
James W. Collier.
Richard Karl hoh.lt.
William L. Igoe.
I.. C. Dyer.
Walter L. Hensley.
Joe J. Russell.
Thomas L. Rubejr.
MONTANA.

Thomas Stout.

John M. Evans.
NEBRASKA.

John A. Maguire.
C. O. Lobeck.
Dan V. Stephens.

Charles II. Sloan.
Silas It. Barton.
Moses P. Kinkaid.
NEVADA.

E. E. Roberts.
NEW HAMPSHIRE.

E. E. Reed.

Raymond B. Stevens.
NEW JERSEY.

William J. Browning.
J. Thompson Baker.
Thomas J. Scully.
Allan B. Walsh.
William E. Tuttle, jr.

Archibald C. Hart.
Eugene It'. Kinkead.
Walter I. McCoy.
Edward W. Townsend.
John J. Eagan.
NEW MEXICO.

Harvey B. Fergusson.
NEW YORK.

Lathrop Brown.
Denis O’Leary.
Harry H. Dale.
William M. Calder.
John J. Fitzgerald.
Daniel J. Griffin.




James H. O’Brien.
Henry M. Goldfogie.
Michael F. Conry.
John F. Carew.
Thomas G. Patten.
Jacob A. Cantor.

Ambrose Kennedy.
SOUTH CAROLINA.

David E. Finley.
J. Willard Ragsdale.
Asbury F. Lever.

Richard S. Whaley.
James F. Byrnes.
Wyatt Aiken.

SOUTH DAKOTA.

Charles II. Burke.
TENNESSEE.

Lemuel P. Padgett.
Thetusf W. Sims.
Finis J. Garrett.
Kenneth D. McKeilar.

Richard W. Austin.
John A. Moon.
Cordell Hull.
William C. H ouston.
Joseph W. Byrns.

TEXAS..

James P. Buchanan.
Robert L. Henry.
Oscar Callaway.
John IT. Stephens.
John N. Garner.
William R. Smith.
Daniel E. Garrett.

Horace W. Vaughan.
Martin- Dies.
Sam Rayburn.
Jack Beall.
Rufus Hardy.
Alexander W. Gregg.
Joe II. Eagle.
George F. Burgess.

UTAH.

MISSOURI.

James T. Lloyd.
William W. Rucker.
Charles P. Booher.
William P. Borland.
Clement C. Dickinson.
Courtney W. Hamlin.
Champ Clark.

Charles E. Patton.
Abraham L. Keister.
W. N. Carr.
Henry W. Temple.
Milton W. Shreve.
Jonathan N. Langham.
Willis J. Hillings.
Stephen G. Porter.
M.. Clyde Kelly.
Andrew J. Barclifeld.
Arthur It. Rupley.
John M. Morin.
Anderson II. Walters.
RHODE ISLAND.

George F. O'Shaunessy.

MUeilfGAN.

Frank E. Doremus.
Samuel W. Beakes.
.T. M. C. Smith.
Edward: L. Hamilton.
Carl E. Mapes.

D ecem ber

Jacob Johnson.

Joseph Howell.

VERMONT.

Frank Plumley.

Frank L. Greene.

VIRGINIA..

E. E. Holland.
Andrew J. Montague.
Carter Glass.
James Hay.
William- E. Humphrey.
Albert Johnson.

Charles C.. Carlin.
C. Bascom Slemp.
Henry D. Flood.
WASHINGTON.

William I,. La- Follette.
James W. Bryan,
WEST VIRGINIA.

Matthew M. Neely.
William ©.. Brown, jr.
Samuel B. Avis.
Henry A. Cooper.
Michael E. Burke.
John M. Nelson.
William H. Stafford.
John J. Esch.

Hunter IT. Moss, jr.
Howard Sutherland.
WISCONSIN.

E. E. Browne.
Thomas I*’. Konop.
James A, Frear.
Irvine L. Lenroot.
WYOMING.

Frank W. Mondell.
T h e S P E A K E R . T h r e e h u n d r ed an d fo r ty -th r e e
h a v e a n sw e r e d to th e ir n a m e s ; a q u oru m .

M em bers

m essa g e : from t h e se n a t e .

A m e s s a g e f r o m t h e S e n a te , b y M r. T rolley, o n e o f it s clerks
a n n o u n c e d t h a t t h e S e n a t e h a d p a s s e d t h e f o l lo w in g r e s o lu tio n s ’
R esolv ed , T h at tlie Secretary inform the H ouse of Representative"
th a t a quorum of the Sen ate is assem bled and th a t th e Senate: is readv
to proceed to business.

1913,

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE.

M r. GLAR-Iv o f W y o m in g . I a s k f o r t lie r e g u la r o r d e r .
M r. W I L L I A M S . I f t h e S e n a to r m e a n s w h e t h e r t h e S e n a te
w o u ld h a r e p o w e r to a d jo u r n , y e s ; b u t I t h o u g h t h e w a s a s k in g
w lia t w e p r o p o se d . W e d o n o t p r o p o s e to a d jo u r n b e fo r e 11.
M r. B A C O N .. M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e S e n a to r f r o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e i s a p a r lia m e n t a r ia n . I d o n o t t h in k h e c a n p o s s ib ly h a v e
a n y d o u b t a b o u t t h e f a c t t h a t t h a t m e a n s s im p ly w h a t I s u g ­
g e s te d — t h a t a t 11 o ’c lo c k th e S e n a te w o u ld b e a u to m a t ic a lly
a d jo u r n e d ; t h a t w e c o u ld n o t s i t lo n g e r th a n t h a t i f w e d e s ir e d
t o d o so.
M r. G A L L IN G E E . T h e d o u b t d o e s n o t lo d g e in m y m in d ,
b u t I t h in k i t w o u ld lo d g e in t h e m in d s o f a g r e a t m a n y S e n a ­
to r s , a n d t h e y w o u ld t h in k a n a t te m p t w a s m a d e to k e e p u s in
s e s s io n u n t i l .1 1 o ’c lo c k a t n ig h t, w h e t h e r w e h a d a n y b u s in e s s
t o tr a n sa c t: o r . n o t.
M r. W I L L I A M S ,
I t s im p ly i n d ic a t e s t h e p u r p o se to s t a y
u n t il 1 1 ; b u t i t d o e s n o t t a k e a w a y fr o m t h e S e n a te t h e p o w e r
to a d jo u r n b e f o r e 1 1 i f it s e e s fit to d o so.
M r. G A L L IN G B J t. T h a t i s p r e c is e ly t h e w a y I lo o k a t it.
M r. C L A R K o f W y o m in g . I c a ll t h e a t t e n t io n o f t h e S e n a to r
fr o m G e o r g ia to t h e y f a c t t h a t , in r e s p o n s e to m y d ir e c t in q u ir y
o f t h e m o v e r o f t h is r e s o lu tio n , h e s a id t h e p u r p o s e w a s to k e e p
u s h e r e u n t il 1 1 .
M r. W I L L I A M S . T h a t i s o u r p u r p o se . D o n o t m is u n d e r s t a n d
o u r p u r p o se . I g o t c o n fu s e d . I 't h o u g h t t h e S e n a to r w as- a s k in g
o u r p u r p o s e ; b u t t h a t d o e s n o t g o to t h e p o w e r o f t h e S e n a te .
O f c o u r s e t h e S e n a te m a y a d jo u r n a t 1 0 i f y o u c a n g e t a m a jo r ­
it y to v o t e in f a v o r o f a d jo u r n m e n t ; b u t w e o f t h e m a jo r it y
p a r ty , h o p in g t h a t w e w i l l b e t h e m a jo r it y , a n n o u n c e to y o u a n d
to t h e c o u n tr y t h a t w e d o P o t p r o p o s e to a d jo u r n b e f o r e 1 1 .
M r. G A L L I N G E E . A llo w roe to s u g g e s t t o t h e d is t in g u is h e d
S e n a to r fr o m M i s s is s ip p i t h a t i f t h e r e s o lu tio n s im p ly p r o v id e d
t h a t w e w o u ld t a k e a rfecess u n til 8 o ’c lo c k w e w o u ld c o m e in
h e r e a t 8 o ’c lo c k , a n d t h e m a jo r it y c o u ld k e e p u s h e r e u n t il 1 1
o ’c lo c k , i f th e r e w e r e a q u o r u m p r e s e n t, in s t e a d o f s p e c ify in g
t h a t w e s h o u ld s t a y h e r e u n t il th e n .
H r . W I L L I A M S . B u t w e h a v e p r e f e r r e d to e x p r e s s o u r p u r ­
p o s e in t h i s w a y . ; I f a t a n y t im e a m a jo r it y o f t h e S e n a te
s h o u ld w a n t to a d jo u r n , n o t w it h s t a n d in g o u r p u r p o s e , t h e m a ­
j o r it y o f t h e S e n a te c o u ld o v e r r id e lh a t- p u r p o se .
M r. G A L L IN G E I^ . M r. P r e s id e n t , I If^ v e n o d o u b t t h a t t h is
i s t h e r e s u lt o f c a u c u s a c t io n , a n d I a m n o t g o in g to c o m b a t it,
b e c a u s e I k n o w h o w f u t i l e i t w o u ld b e ; so % h a v e s a id a ll I c a r e
to s a y o n t h e s u b je c t.
M r. B R I S T O W . M r. P r e s id e n t , o f c o u r s e T h e p u r p o s e o f t h i s
r e s o lu tio n i s to p r e v e n t a f a ir a n d fr e e d is c u s s io n o f t h e b ill
t h u t i s to b e u p f o r c o n s id e r a tio n . T h e d e s ig n i s to p r e v e n t
S e n a to r s fr o m h a v in g a n o p p o r tu n ity to p r e s e n t t h e ir v ie w s a s
to t h e m e a s u r e by c r e a t in g c o n d itio n s w h ic h w ill m a k e it
p h y s ic a lly im p o s s ib le f o r th e m to d o so .
I d o n o t b la m e t h e m a j o r it y f o r s e e k in g to p r e v e n t a d is c u s ­
s io n o f t h e b ill, w h ic h w o u ld a t t r a c t to i t t h e a t te n t io n o f th e
c o u n tr y , b e c a u s e i t w i l l n o t s t a n d s u c h a n a ly s is . T h e a t te n t io n
t h a t h a s a lr e a d y b e e n a t t r a c t e d to t h e b ill s in c e i t w a s r e fe r r e d
to t h e - C o m m it t e e o n B a n k in g a n d C u r r e n c y h a s r e s u lte d in
m a te r ia l c h a n g e s w h ic h h a v e im p r o v e d t h e b ill. I f , a t th e d e ­
m a n d o f th e c h a ir m a n , t h e C o m m itte e o n B a n k in g a n d C u r r e n c y
h a d p r o c e e d e d to r e p o r t t h e b ill b a c k w it h a f e w a m e n d m e n ts
w h ic h h e s u g g e s t e d a n d it h a d b e e n p a s s e d b y t h e l S t l i o f O cto ­
b er, a s h e a n n o u n c e d in t h e p a p e r h e d e s ir e d to h a v e it
p a s s e d ------M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ?
M r. B R I S T O W . I do.
M r. O W E N . I r e m in d t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s t h a t i f th e
r e q u e s ts o f th e c h a ir m a n o f t h e c o m m it t e e h a d b e e n h e e d e d b y
h im s e lf a n d o t h e r s t h e c o m m it t e e w o u ld h a v e h a d n e a r lv t w o
m o n t h s m o r e o f a c t iv e w o r k o n t h e b ill.
M r. B R I S T O W . I c a n n o t u n d e r s t a n d j u s t w h a t t h e S e n a to r
fr o m O k la h o m a m e a n s b y “ t w o m o n t h s m o r e o f a c t iv e w o r k on
th e b ill.” I th in k t h e w o r k o n t h e b ill w a s f o r c e d fr o m th e
c h a ir m a n o f t h e c o m m itte e o v e r h i s p r o t e s t , a n d a m e n d m e n ts
w h ic h t h e p u b lic s e n t im e n t o f t h e c o u n tr y d e m a n d e d h a v e b een
fo r c e d in to i t o v e r h i s p r o te s t.
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , I r e m in d t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n ­
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b+e f ? f e ^ e S e n a t e i t w a s t h e d u ty o f S e n a t o r s to g iv e
a t te n t io n to th a t le g is la t io n . W e w e r e -c a lle d in to e x t r a o r d in a r y
* sio n f o r t h a t p u r p o se . T h e h e a r in g s o n t h e b a n k in g a n d




c u r r e n c y b i l l b e g a n b e f o r e t h e t a r if f h ill h a d b e e n p a ss e d ,' a n d
I u tt e r e d a p r o t e s t a g a in s t t h e h e a r in g s b e in g c o n d u c te d w h e n
t h e t a r if f b ill w a s b e in g c o n s id e r e d a n d a m e n d m e n t s v o te d u p o n
b y t h e S e n a te . I t w a s im p o s s ib le f o r S e n a to r s to b e in b o th
p la c e s a t t h e s a m e tim e :
A s 1 w a s s a y in g , t h e p u r p o s e o f t h i s r e s o lu tio n i s to f o r c e
th r o u g h t h i s le g is la t io n , g o o d o r b a d , a s e a r ly a s p o s s ib le . I
r e a liz e t h a t t h e m a j o r it y a r e r e s p o n s ib le f o r t h e le g is la t io n t h a t
p a s s e s . T h e y h a v e t h e r ig h t to fix t h e h o u r s o f m e e tin g , a n d
i t i s t h e b u s in e s s o f t h e m in o r it y to c o n fo r m a s n e a r ly a s p o s­
s ib le to t h e r u le s w h ic h t h e m a j o r it y p r e s c r ib e . I t h a s b e e n t h e
p r a c t ic e o f t h e S e n a te in t h e p a s t, a n d I t h in k t o t h e c r e d it o f
t h e b o d y , t h a t w h e n a: g r e a t m e a s u r e a f f e c t in g t h e f o r t u n e s o f
t h e p e o p le o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s w a s u p f o r c o n s id e r a tio n th e r e
s h o u ld b e f u ll a n d f r e e d e b a te u p o n a ll t h e f e a t u r e s o f t h e b ill.
I t b a s b e e n t o t h e c r e d it o f t h e S e n a te o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s f o r
a t l e a s t a q u a r te r o f a c e n t u r y t h a t i t h a s b e e n t h e b o d y w h ic h
s h a p e d t h e fin a l fo r m in w h ic h t h e l e g is la t io n o f o u r c o u n tr y
s h o u ld b e p a ss e d .
M r. W I L L I A M S
M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m M is s is s ip p i?
M r. B R I S T O W . I do.
M r. W I L L I A M S . M a y I a s k t h e S e n a to r to t e ll m e in w h a t
m a n n e r t h e p a s s a g e o f t h is r e s o lu tio n c o u ld p o s s ib ly in t e r f e r e
w it h f u ll a n d f r e e d e b a te ? I t m e r e ly g iv e s m o r e t im e f o r i t —
tw o m o r e h o u r s in t h e m o r n in g , a n d t h r e e m o r e h o u r s a t n ig h t.
M r. B R I S T O W . T h e S e n a to r h a s a lr e a d y s a id o n t h e floor
o f t h e S e n a te t h is m o r n in g t h a t t h e p u r p o se o f t h e r e s o lu tio n i s
to e x h a u s t t h e S e n a te so t h a t i t c a n n o t d e b a te t h e b ill.
M r. W I L L I A M S . T o m a k e i t t a lk i t s e l f o u t, y e s ; t o m a k e it
g o to t a lk in g e a r ly , a n d t a lk la t e , a n d g e t th r o u g h t a lk in g ; b u t
it d o e s n o t in te r fe r e w it h i t s ta lk in g .
M r. B R I S T O W . T h a t i s t h e S e n a to r ’s v ie w . T h e p u r p o se ,
a s I h a v e s a id , is to p r e v e n t a n in t e llig e n t a n d a f a i r d is c u s ­
s io n o f t h is b ill. T h a t i s t h e o b je c t o f t h e m a jo r it y , a n d i t is
t h e o b je c t o f t lie m a jo r it y b e c a u s e t h e b ill, s in c e i t le f t t h e
H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s , h a s b e e n o n e t h a t c o u ld n o t s ta n d
a n in t e llig e n t d is c u s s io n b e fo r e t h e p e o p le o f t h e U n ite d S ta t e s .
I w a n t to s a y t h a t i t i s to t h e .c r e d it o f c e r t a in m e m b e r s o f t h e
| C o m m itte e on B a n k in g , a n d C u r r e n c y o n t h e m a j o r it y s id e o f
t h is C h a m b e r t h a t th e y h a v e f o r c e d so m e d e lib e r a t io n in t h e
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s u b s t a n t i a l ly n o h e a r in g s in t h i s c o u n tr y . T h e h e a r in g s w h ic h
t h e M o n e ta r y C o m m is s io n h a d w e r e in o t h e r c o u n t r ie s a lm o s t
e n t ir e ly . S u b s t a n t ia lly a ll t h e in f o r m a t io n w h ic h h a s b e e n su b ­
m it t e d t o o u r c o m m it t e e d u r in g t h e p a s t m o n t h i s n e w an d
h a d n e v e r b e fo r e b e e n s u b m itt e d , in m y j u d g m e n t , to a n y com ­
m it t e e o f e it h e r H o u s e o f C o n g r e s s .
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m o n y w a s t a k e n in a g r e a t m a n y c i t i e s o f t h e U n it e d S ta te s .
Air. W a r b u r g ’s t e s t im o n y w a s t a k e n h e r e . O f c o u r s e , a g r e a t
m a n y o f t h e m to o k t h e fo r m o f e s s a y s o r s t a t e m e n t s , b u t th e r e
w e r e a n y n u m b e r m a d e , i t s e e m s to m e, in t h i s c o u n t i y . H o w ­
e v e r , t h e e x a m in a t io n t h a t w e w a n t e d to m a k e , w h ic h in v o lv e d
t h e h e a r in g s b e f o r e t h e c o m m it t e e in t h e l a s t f e w w e e k s , h a s
b e e n la r g e ly a s to t lie p r a c t ic e o f E u r o p e a n b a n k s a n d a s to
t h e m o d e s t h a t t h e y a d o p t, b e c a u s e t h e r e d is c o u n t p r in c ip le is
o n e t h a t i s w e ll d e v e lo p e d in E u r o p e . *
N o w , w h e n w e a r e p e r f e c t ly w i l l i n g t o h a v e d e b a te w it h o u t
lim it , h a v in g lo n g s e s s io n s e a c h d a y , t o s a y t h a t t h a t i s a t ­
t e m p t in g t o t h r o t t le a n y d e b a te , i t s e e m s to m e , c a n n o t bo
s u s t a in e d .
Air. R E E D . A ir. P r e s id e n t , i t s e e m s t o m e to b e r a t h e r a u s e ­
l e s s t h in g t o p a u s e a t t h i s t im e a n d d e b a te t h e q u e s t io n w h e th e r
t h e m e m b e r s o f t h e c o m m it t e e a c t e d w i s e l y o r u n w is e ly w h e n
t h e y to o k t im e to h e a r e v id e n c e u p o n a n d to a n a ly z e a n d c o n ­
s id e r t h e b a n k in g a n d ‘c u r r e n c y b ill. I r e g r e t t h a t t h e q u e s tio n
h a s b e e n r a is e d . B u t s in c e it h a s b e e n in j e c t e d in t o t h e d e b a te ,
I w i l l r e f e r to i t in t h e b r ie f e s t p o s s ib le w a y .
T h e r e w e r e s o m e m e m b e r s o f t h e c o m m it t e e w h o f e l t th a t
t h e y w e r e r e a d y t o v o t e u p o n t h e b ill a t a d a t e e a r lie r t h a n d id
o t h e r m e m b e r s . I h a v e n o c r it ic is m f o r m y a s s o c i a t e s u p o n t h e

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M r. T O W N S E N D . M r. P r e s id e n t , w i l l t lie S e n a to r y ie ld
to m e?
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a to r f r o m C a li­
f o r n ia y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m M ic h ig a n ?
M r. W O R K S . I do.
M r. T O W N S E N D .
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t h e m a jo r it y in t h e ir p la c e s , a n d I s u g g e s t t h e a b s e n c e o f a
q u o ru m .
T h e P R E S ID IN G O F F IC E R .
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T h e S e n a to r fr o m C a lif o r n ia w ill p r o c e e d .
M r. B A C O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , b e fo r e t h e Sen ator^ fr o m C a li­
f o r n ia p r o c e e d s , in a s m u c h a s t h e S e n a to r fr o m M ic h ig a n h a s
t w i c e h a d p u t in to t h e R ecohd h is e s t im a t e o f t h e n u m b e r o f
S e n a to r s p r e s e n t, I t h in k it i s p r o p e r to , s a y t h a t e a c h t im e t h e
r o ll c a ll h a s s h o w n t h a t t h e r e w e r e p r e s e n t a b o u t th r e e t im e s
a s m a n y D e m o c r a t s a s R e p u b lic a n s .
M r. T O W N S E N D . M r. P r e s id e n t , u n d o u b te d ly t h a t i s tr u e ,
a s s h o w n b y t h e r o ll c a ll. I t d o e s n o t fo llo w ,, h o w e v e r , t h a t it
w a s t r u e w h e n t h e S e n a to r fr o m C a lif o r n ia w a s sp e a k in g .
F u r th e r m o r e , i t w a s t h e m a jo r it y t h a t c a lle d t h e S e n a te h e r e
t o -n ig h t fo r t h e p u r p o s e o f f a c i l it a t i n g t h e b u s in e s s o f th e S e n ­
a te , a n d t h e m e m b e r s o f th e m a jo r it y a r e n o t h e r e in t h e ir
s e a ts . T h e S e n a to r fr o m M ic h ig a n w a s c o r r e c t in m a k in g t h e
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q uorum .
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ber. T h e r e m a y b e g r e a t e r r e s p o n s ib ilit y u p o n s o m e th a n u p o n
o th e r s , b u t n o g r e a t e r d u ty . I w is h to s a y to t h e S e n a to r fr o m
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o u g h t to m a k e t h e s e o b s e r v a tio n s in t h e a b s e n c e o f t h e S e n a to r
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w a s a b o u t to p r o c e e d w it h h is sp e e c h .
I h a v e n o o b je c tio n , o f c o u r s e , to t h e S e n a to r
m a k in g t h a t e x p la n a tio n .
M r. G A L L IN G E R .
I n a s m u c h a s t h e S e n a to r s o n t h e o t h e r
s id e se e m to h a v e p r e t t y d e c id e d o p in io n s o n t h is q u e s tio n , I
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t a n c e to p iy S ta t e , a n d I d o t h in k t h a t D e m o c r a t ic S e n a to r s a n d
R e p u b lic a n s a s w e ll, s h o u ld r e m a in h e r e a n d lis t e n to w li’a t i s
s a id u p o n t h i s su b je c t, w h e t h e r w e l l s a id o r n o t. in o r d e r t o in ­
fo r m th e m s e lv e s u p o n t h i s im p o r ta n t q u e s tio n , a n d I t h in k it is
u n f a ir a n d u n ju s t t h a t I s h o u ld b e c o m p e lle d to p r o c e e d w it h m v
sp e e c h t o -n jg h t w h e n o th e r M e m b e r s o f t h i s b o d y a b a n d o n th e
C h a m b e r a n d g o to t h e c lo a k r o o m o r a n y w h e r e e ls e w h ile I a m
a d d r e s s in g m y s e lf to a s u b j e c t t h a t i s o n e o f im p o r ta n c e .
M r. W O R K S . I s h a ll n o w r e a d t h e te le g r a m t h a t I a d d r e s s e d
to S e n a to r F e lto n .

Hon. C. N. F ei A o n ,

W a s h in g t o n , N ovem ber 28, m s .
J,52 M ills B uilding, San F ra n cisco, Cal.:

Wire me amount of water and of what kind San Francisco can
obtain from Eel River and at what cost to tlie city, and any particu­
lars that you may .feel at liberty to give me on that subject. Expect to
address the Senate on Hetch Hetchy bill on Thursday next. Any infor­
mation you may give me will be important in that connection.
J o h n D. W o r k s.

I r e c e iv e d fr o m t h e S e n a to r t h e f o llo w in g t e l e g r a m :
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Hon. J o h n D. W o r k s ,

S a -v F r a n c i s c o ,

Cal., D ecem ber 2, 1913.

United S ta tes S en ate, W a sh ington, D. C .:

Have this day answered your wire of the 28th by telegram through
the engineer of the Snow Mount Water & Tower Co., who is more
capable and conversant of tlie facts than myself. Trusting that it may
be of service to you,
C. N. F e lt o n .

T h e te le g r a m o f t h e ’e n g in e e r i s a s ' f o l l o w s :

Hon. J o h n P . W o r k s ,

S a n F r a n c is c o , C a l ., D ecem b er 1, 1913.

United S ta tes S enate, W ash ington, D. C .:

In reply to yours of the 28th, San Francisco can obtain more than
200,000,000 gallons a day from South Eel River and 300,000,000 gallons
a day from Middle Eel River of mountain water uncontaminated by
local influences. I think an examination will prove that 500,000,000
gallons a day can be delivered from this source to San Francisco, and
am advised and believe within the sum of $60,000,000. The line is
already paralleled by and for four-fifths of the distance is immediately
adjacent to the Northwestern Pacific Railroad. This scheme has also
the advantage that the pipe line can be laid much nearer the hydraulic
grade line, and thus the weight of steel pipe would be less than for
the Sierra Nevada schem es; or reenforced concrete pipe could be used
over portions of the distance, which makes the unit cost very low.
Quoting from A. M. Hunt’s report on the South Eel River supply, writ­
ten in 1906, the water rights of the Snow Mountain Water & Power
Co. are not in conflict with any others; in fact, there are no prior
rights, nor lias the water ever been diverted for any purpose. There is
practically no agricultural land in the river bottom below the diversion
point, so there can be no claim that the waters are needed or may be
needed in tlie future for irrigation purposes. In this respect, as a sup­
ply for San Francisco, it is superior to any of the Sierra propositions
The same is true of the waters of the Middle Eel River.
W . S. G r a h a m ,
E n gin eer and General M anager,
S now M ountain W a ter <£ P o w er Co.

N o w , e it h e r o f t h o s e p r o j e c t s ta k e n a lo n e — n o t b o th o f th e m ,
b u t e it h e r o n e o f th e m — w o u ld f u r n is h m o r e w a t e r t h a n S a n
F r a n c is c o is le g a lly e n t it le d to u n d e r i t s filin g to t a k e o u t o f
t h e T u o lu m n e R iv e r a n d t w ic e a s m u c h a s t h e o n ly e n g in e e r
w h o h a s s a id a n y t h in g o n t h e s u b j e c t h a s d e c la r e d is n e e d e d b y
S a n F r a n c is c o fo r 3 0 y e a r s to co m e.
N o w , M r. P r e s id e n t , I c o m e to t lie q u e s t io n a s t o w h e t h e r
S a n F r a n c is c o ------Mr- B A C O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , I a s k t h is q u e s tio n in t h e u tm o s t
g o o d f a it h . I a m s e e k in g lig h t.
C o u ld t h e S e n a to r w it h in a
f e w w o r d s t e ll u s w h y it w o u ld b e c o n d u c iv e to t h e p u b lic in
t e r e s t t h a t t lie o n e p r o j e c t s h o u ld b e c a r r ie d o u t a n d n o t t h e
o th e r ? I n o th e r w o r d s , w h y i s i t t h a t th e r e ’ w i l l b e a n y o b ie c
t io n o f a p u b lic o r p r iv a t e c h a r a c t e r t o t h e H e t c h I le t c h v
p r o je c t w h ic h d o e s n o t a p p ly to t h e o th e r ? I w a n t a c o m p a r is o n
b e t w e e n t h e tw o .
M r. W O R K S . T h e o b je c tio n i s t h a t S a n F r a n c is c o o u g h t n o t
to b e a llo w e d to t a k e o f t h e w a t e r s o f t h e S t a t e m o r e th a n is
n e c e s s a r y f o r i t s o w n u s e , a n d it s h o u ld le a v e t h e b a la n c e fo r
d is t r ib u tio n to o t h e r s w h o m a y n e e d it. T h e r e fo r e i t w o u ld bo
u u j u s t i f S a n F r a n c is c o sh o u ld t a k e o u t o f b o th t h e s e s y s t e m s
a n a m o u n t o f w a t e r t h a t i t i s n o t a b le to u se , a n d S a n F r a n -

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M r W O R K S . T h e c it y a n d c o u n ty o f S a n F r a n c is c o .
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n e o n le ^ fo r 1 d o m e s tic p u r p o s e s . T h e r e fo r e S a n F r a n c is c o h a s no
to t a k e t w o o f t h e s e s u p p lie s i f o n e o f th e m is s u fh c ie n t.
r u n I a n s w e r t h e S e n a to r ’s q u e s t io n ?
1 M r B A C O N I a m n o t s u ffic ie n tly f a m ilia r w it h t h e s u b je c t
t o sa'v w h e t h e r o r n o t it i s a c o m p le te a n s w e r . I w ill s t a t e
t o t h e S e n a to r in p a s s in g , i f I d o n o t o c c u p y t o o m u c h tim e ,
th a t I h a v e a lw a y s b e e n u n d e r a s o m e w h a t d iff e r e n t im p r e s s io n
in r e g a r d to t h e w a t e r su p p ly o f C a lif o r n ia , i f t h e s t a t e m e n t o f
thA S e n a to r i s n o w c o r r e c t.

Mr. WORKS.

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a t te m p t a n y t h in g o f t h e k in d .
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^ M r ^ W A L S H . M r. P r e s id e n t , I d a r e s a y t h a t i s t r u e . I f sh e
g e t s t h e r e s t o f i t s h e g e t s i t b y v ir t u e o f t h e l a w s o f t h e S ta te
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a g a in s t t h e c i t y o f S a n F r a n c is c o a r e n o t b in d in g u p o n a n y b o d y
e ls e . T h e n w h y s h o u ld t h e G o v e r n m e n t u n d e r ta k e to d o s o m e ­
t h in g t h r o u g h a n a c t o f C o n g r e s s t h a t i t h a s a b s o lu t e ly n o
r ig h t o r p o w e r to d o ? I t d o e s n o t m a k e t h e s l ig h t e s t d iff e r e n c e
w h e t h e r i t u n d e r t a k e s to c o n t r o l t h e d is t r ib u tio n o f w a t e r b y
im p o s in g a c o n d itio n u p o n t h e c it y o f S a n F r a n c is c o or b y a
d ir e c t p r o v is io n in t h e b ill t h a t t h e w a t e r s h a ll g o h e r e or
t h e r e , a c c o r d in g t o i t s p r o v is io n s . T h e N a t io n a l G o v e r n m e n t
h a s n o r ig h t to d e a l w it h t h e q u e s t io n a t a ll, a n d I t h in k t h e
S e n a to r fr o m I d a h o [M r . B o k ah ] a d m it t e d a lt o g e t h e r to o m u c h
w h e n h e a d m it t e d t h a t t h e G o v e r n m e n t m ig h t im p o s e a c o n ­
d it io n in t h i s b ill t h a t w o u ld a f fe c t in a n y w a y w h a t e v e r t h e
d is t r ib u tio n o r u s e o f t h e w a t e r s o f t h e s tr e a m .
M r. T H O M A S a n d M r. B O R A H a d d r e s s e d t h e C h a ir .
T h e P R E S ID IN G O F F IC E R .
D o e s -th e S e n a to r fr o m C a li­
f o r n ia y ie ld , a n d to w h o m ?
M r. W O R K S . I y ie ld f ir s t to t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o .
M r. T H O M A S .
M y p u r p o s e i s m e r e ly t o s e t t h e S e n a te
r ig h t o v e r t h e e x t e n t a n d n a t u r e o f t h e g r a n t o f t h e S t a t e o f
C a lif o r n ia to t h e U n ite d S t a t e s o f t h e Y o s e m it e N a t io n a l P a r k .
I q u o te fr o m t h e t e s t im o n y o f M r. L o n g in t h e H o u s e h e a r in g s ,
o n p a g e 10 2 :

I Inight say that at the time these filings were made Hetch Hetchy
Valley was not in the national park. It was pot in the national park
until 1905, and even then not by express dedication. It has been referred to as being in the. Yosemite National Park, but the forest reser­
vation of which it was then a part,/or that portion of it m which
were Lake Eleanor and Hetch Hetchy, was merged into the Yosemite
National Park without expressly napiing Hetch Hetchy as a national
park.

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t io n a l P a r k n o w , b u t n o t b y g r a n t fr o m t h e S t a t e o f C a lif o r n ia
to t h e U n ite d S ta t e s .
M r. B O R A H . M r. P r e s id e n t ------M r. W O R K S . N o w I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m I d a h o .
M r. B O R A H . I n c o n n e c tio n w it h w h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m
C o lo r a d o h a s s a id , I d o n o t k n o w w h a t t h e b o u n d a r ie s o f t h i s
p a r k a r e , b u t t h i s i s t h e p r o v is io n t o w h ic h m y a t t e n t io n w a s
c a lie d a w h ile a g o a n d to w h ic h I c a lle d t h e a t t e n t io n o f t h e
S e n a te . T h e g r a n t o f t h e S t a t e o f C a lif o r n ia to t h e U n ite d
S t a t e s o f t h e Y o s e m it e N a t io n a l P a r k ------M r. T H O M A S . W ill t h e S e n a to r g i v e m e t h e d a te o f it ?
M r. B O R A H . T h e d a t e i s 190 5 .

This act shall take effect from and after acceptance by the United
States of America of the recession and regrants herein made, thereby
forever releasing the State of California from further cost of maintain­
ing the said premises, the same to be held for all time by the United
States of America for public use, resort, and recreation, and imposing
on the United States of America the cost of maintaining the same as a
national park.
T h a t w a s w h a t t h e p a r t y h a d r e f e r e n c e to . I w i l l h a v e s o m e ­
t h in g t o s a y a b o u t i t la t e r , b u t d id I u n d e r s t a n d t h e S e n a to r
fr o m C a lif o r n ia to t h in k t h a t I m a d e a c e r t a in c o n c e s s io n t h a t
w a s n o t t h e la w ?
M r. W O R K S . I c e r t a in ly d id .
M r. B O R A H . W h a t w a s it ?
M r. W O R K S . T h e c o n c e s s io n t h a t t h e N a t io n a l G o v e r n m e n t
m ig h t p r o v id e a s a c o n d itio n t h a t t h e w a t e r o f t h i s s tr e a m
s h o u ld h e d is t r ib u t e d b y S a n F r a n c is c o t o c e r t a in in d iv id u a ls .
M r. B O R A H . I f I m a d e a n y s u c h c o n c e s s io n a s t h a t i t w a s
b y a s lip o f la n g u a g e . I s a id t h a t t h e N a t io n a l G o v e r n m e n t a s
a p r o p r ie to r c o u ld d e e d t h e la n d w h ic h i t o w n e d u p o n t h e s a m e
c o n d itio n t h a t a n y o t h e r p r o p r ie t o r c o u ld , w it h t h e s a m e t e r m s
a n d g r a n t s o f a n y o t h e r p r o p r ie to r , b u t t h a t i t c o u ld n o t im p o s e
a n d a t t a c h to i t s p r o p r ie t a r y p o w e r a g o v e r n m e n ta l p o w e r to
c o n tr o l t h e s it u a tio n .
M r. W O R K S . B u t t h e S e n a to r fr o m M o n ta n a [Mr. W a l s h ]
h a d m a d e t h e d ir e c t s t a t e m e n t t h a t a s a c o n d itio n , n o t a s a
d ir e c t a c t, t h e U n it e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t c o u ld im p o s e j u s t
s u c h a c o n d itio n , a n d t h e 'S e n a to r a d m it t e d t h a t h i s s t a t e m e n t
w a s c o r r e c t.
M r. B O R A I I . N o ; I b e g t h e S e n a to r ’s p a r d o n .
M r. W O R K S . I t h in k t h e S e n a to r w i l l c o r r e c t t h a t s t a t e ­
m e n t, i f I a m r ig h t a s t o w h a t w a s s a id .
M r. B O R A I I . I f t h e S e n a to r i s r ig h t , I w i l l c o r r e c t It, b u t
I s a id t h e S e n a to r fr o m M o n ta n a h a d s a id w h a t I u n d e r s to o d
to b e t h e le g a l p r o p o s itio n , a n d t h e n I s t a t e d in m y o w n t e r m s
t h e le g a l p r o p o s it io n t h a t I h a v e j u s t s t a t e d . I h a v e n o r e a s o |i
to m o d if y t h a t.
M r. P I T T M A N . M r. P r e s i d e n t - — T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m C a li­
f o r n ia y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e v a d a ?
M r. W O R K S . I f I a m e x p e c t e d t o g o o n a n d m a k e pay
sp e e c h t o -n ig h t a n d c o n t in u e u n t il 1 1 o’c lo c k , I s h o u ld p re fe r , to
c o n tin u e . I f o th e r S e n a t o r s d e s ir e t o t a k e u p t h e b a la n c e o f
t h e t im e in d is c u s s io n , I s h a ll b e v e r y g la d t o h a v e th e m d o So,
f o r I h a v e b e e n o n t h e flo o r a g o o d p a r t o f t h e d a y , a n d I s h a ll
b e v e r y g la d t o b e a llo w e d to s u s p e n d m y r e m a r k s a t t h i s p o in t




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a f t e r t h e r o u t in e m o r n in g b u s in e s s .
M r. P I T T M A N . I r e a liz e t h e S e n a t o r ’s p o s itio n . I w ill n o t
u r g e it, b u t I w a n t t o c o r r e c t w h a t I b e lie v e i s a m is s t a t e m e n t
o f f a c t in r e g a r d to t h e l a w o f C a lif o r n ia . I w a n t to c a ll h is
a t t e n t io n to it.
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m C a li­
f o r n ia y ie ld t o t iie S e n a to r fr o m N e v a d a ?
M r. YV O R K b . I h e S e n a to r m a y m a k e t h e s t a t e m e n t n o w i f
lie d e s ir e s .
M r. P I T T M A N . I s im p ly w is h to s t a t e t h a t t h e la w ' o f C a li­
fo r n ia p r o v id e s f o r t h e b u ild in g o f d a m s in n a t io n a l p a r k s a n d
fo rest reserves.
M r. W O R K S . I h a v e m a d e n o s t a t e m e n t , I w i l l s a y t o t h e
S e n a to r , w it h r e s p e c t to t h a t m a tt e r .
M r. P I T T M A N . I t n o t o n ly p r o v id e s f o r it, b u t i t h a s a l ­
r e a d y g r a n te d to t h e c it y o f S a n F r a n c is c o t h e r ig h t to b u ild a
d a m a t t h e e x a c t p la c e i t i s n o w a s k in g t h e G o v e r n m e n t to
g r a n t t h e s a m e r ig h t.
M r. W O R K S . T h e S e n a to r , I s u p p o s e , i s n o t in t e n d in g to
a d d r e s s h i s r e m a r k s to m e, f o r I h a v e m a d e n o s u c h c o n t e n tio n
a s th a t.
T h a t o r ig in a te d , in t h e d is c u s s io n b e t w e e n o t h e r
S e n a to r s .
M r. P I T T M A N . I t m a y b e a n e r r o r o n m y p a r t, b u t I t h o u g h t
t h e S e n a to r fr o m C a lif o r n ia c o n te n d e d t h a t i t h a d to g o fir st to
t h e S t a t e o f C a lifo r n ia .
M r. W O R K S . N o t a t a il. I m a d e n o s u c h c o n te n tio n .
M r. P I T T M A N . T h e y h a v e t ile p e r m is s io n o f t h e S t a t e n o w ,
a n d t h e y a r e n o w a s k in g t h e G o v e r n m e n t to p e r m it t h e m to
im p o u n d w a t e r u p o n G o v e r n m e n t la n d .
M r. W O R K S . I d o n o t t h in k i t m a k e s a n y d iff e r e n c e w h e t h e r
th e r e i s a n e x p r e s s p r o v is io n o f t h a t k in d b y t h e S t a t e o f
C a lif o r n ia or n o t. I t h in k t h a t r i g h t e x i s t s in d e p e n d e n t ly o f
a n y s t a t u t e u n d e r t h e g e n e r a l l a w s o f t h e S ta t e .
M r. G A L L IN G E R . M r. P r e s id e n t - - —
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a t o r fr o m C a li­
f o r n ia y ie ld t o t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e ?
M r. W O R K S . I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r .
M r. G A B L IN G E R . M r. P r e s id e n t , w e a ll u n d e r s t a n d t h a t
p r o b a b ly on to -m o r r o w a r e s o lu tio n w i l l b e p a s s e d k e e p in g u s
in s e s s io n fr o m 8 o ’c lo c k u n til 1 1 ‘o ’c lo c k in t h e e v e n in g , b u t t h a t
r e s o lu tio n h a s n o t y e t p a s s e d t h e S e n a te . T h e S e n a to r fr o m
C a lif o r n ia h a s sp o k e n s e v e r a l h o u r s ; h e s a y s h e i s v e r y m u c h
f a t ig u e d , a n d h e m u s t b e, a n d i t s e e m s t o m e t h a t t h e m a j o r it y
m ig h t w e ll p e r m it u s to a d jo u r n . W e h a v e b e e n h e r e a lm o s t
1 1 h o u r s in p r a c t ic a lly c o n t in u o u s s e s s io n , a n d i f w e a d jo u r n
t h e S e n a to r c a n c o m p le te h is sp e e c h in t h e m o r n in g . I t r u s t
t h a t a m o tio n w i l l b e m a d e to a d jo u r n a t t h is tim e .
M r. T H O M A S . A b o u t h o w m u c h m o r e t im e w ill t h e S e n a to r
fr o m C a lif o r n ia o c c u p y ?
M r. W O R K S . I c a n n o t t e ll t h e S e n a to r . I h a v e to g o o v e r
t h e r e p o r ts.
M r. S M I T H o f A r iz o n a . W h y n o t l e t t h e S e n a to r r e s t, a n d
t a k e u p t h e c u r r e n c y b ill?
M r. W O R K S . W e w o u ld h a r d ly g e t s t a r t e d o n t h a t in t h e
l i t t l e o v e r h a l f a n h o d r n o w r e m a in in g b e f o r e 1 1 o ’c lo c k .
M r. G A L L IN G E R , T h e r e q u e s t, M r. P r e s id e n t , t h a t I m a k e
i s n o t a n u n u s u a l o n e ; in f a c t , i t i s o n e t h a t h a s b e e n m a d e h u n ­
d r e d s o f t im e s d u r in g m y s e r v ic e in t b e S e n a te , a n d i t o c c u r s
to m e t h a t it o u g h t to b e a c c e d e d to. I f t h e r e s o lu tio n h a d
p a s s e d t h a t w e s h o u ld s i t u n til 1 1 o ’c lo c k , I w o u ld n o t h a v e v e n ­
tu r e d to m a k e t b e s u g g e s t io n , a n d , a s I s a id in t h e b e g in n in g , I
h a v e n o d o u b t t h a t t h a t r e s o lu tio n w ill p a s s to -m o r r o w a n d t h a t
in t h e f u t u r e w e w ill b e h e ld in s e s s io n u n til 1 1 o ’c lo c k in t h e
e v e n in g .
M r. S T O N E . M r. P r e s id e n t , I v e r y m u c h h o p e t h e r e q u e s t o f
t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e w ill b e a c c e d e d to . T h e r e is
o n ly a b o u t h a l f a n h o u r le f t , a n d I t h in k a s a m a tt e r o f o r d in a r y
c o u r t e s y , u n d e r t h e c ir c u m s t a n c e s , t h e r e q u e s t, f o r t h e c o n v e n ­
ie n c e o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m C a lif o r n ia , m ig h t b e a g r e e d to . I c a n
notflG e'-tflJtf w e w i l l f a c i l it a t e m a t t e r s v e r y , m u c h b y .p r o c e e d in g
jin r th e r to -n ig h t.
" M r. O W E N .
I s i t t h e S e n a t o r ’s u n d e r s t a n d in g , th e n , t h a t w e
w ill m e e t a t 10 o ’c lo c k in t h e m o r n in g ?
M r. G A L L IN G E R . I t is . I t h in k w e h a v e 'a g r e e d to t h a t
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . T h e C h a ir w i l l s t a t e t h a t t h e r e
h a s b e e n n o m o tio n to t h a t e ffe c t.
M r. G A L L IN G E R . I t w ill n o t b e r e s is t e d o n t h is s id e i f it
s h a ll h e m a d e . I t h in k t h e m in o r it y i s q u ite w i l l i n g to m e e t t o ­
m o r r o w a t 10 o ’c lo c k .
M r. O W E N . I m o v e t h a t t h e S e n a t e a d jo u r n to m e e t to -m o r ­
r o w m o r n in g a t 10 o ’c lo c k .
T h e m o tio n w a s a g r e e d t o ; a n d ( a t 1 0 o ’c lo c k a n d 23 m in u te s
p. m .) t h e S e n a te a d jo u r n e d u n t il to -m o r r o w , W e d n e s d a y , D e ­
c e m b e r 3, 1 9 1 3 , a t 1 0 o 'c lo c k a . m .

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December 3, 1913.

T lio H o u s e m e t a t 12 o ’c lo c k n o o n .
T h e C h a p la in , lt e v . H e n r y N . C o u d en , D . D ., o ffe r e d t h e f o l ­
lo w in g p r a y e r :
W e w a it o n T h y sp ir it, A lm ig h ty F a th e r , a n d p r a y t h a t i t
m a y c o m e in a ll f u lln e s s a n d p o w e r to illu m in e o u r m in d s ,
s t r e n g t h e n o u r h e a r ts , a n d fit u s fo r e v e r y c o n flic t w h ic h w a i t s
o n u s in t h e d a ily d u tie s o f lif e . M a y i t p u t u s in a r e c e p t iv e
m o o d t h a t w ith o p en m in d s a n d h e a r t s w e m a y l is t e n t o t h e
m e s s a g e o f th e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d S ta t e s , a n d b e p r o fite d
b y the" w isd o m , k n o w le d g e , a n d t r u t h s w h ic h m a y f a l l fr o m h i s
lip s . In C h r is t’s n a m e . A m e n .
T h e J o u r n a l o f t h e p r o c e e d in g s o f y e s t e r d a y w a s r e a d a n d
a p p ro v ed .
REPORT OF C O M M IT T E E TO N O T IF Y

T H E P R E S ID E N T .

T h e co m m itte e t o n o t ify th e P r e s id e n t, c o n s is t in g o f M r. U n ­
d e r w o o d , M r. F it z g e r a l d , a n d M r. M a n n , a p p e a r e d a t th e b a r
o f th e H o u se .

M r. U N D E R W O O D . M r. S p e a k e r , y o u r c o m m itte e , a p p o in te d
b y t h e H o u s e to w a it u p o n t h e P r e s id e n t , to g e th e r w it h a s im i­
la r c o m m it t e e on t h e p a r t o f t h e S e n a te , b e g le a v e to r e p o r t t h a t
t h e y h a v e c a lle d u p o n t h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s a n d
h a v e a d v is e d h im t h a t t h e t w o H o u s e s o f C o n g r e s s a r e in se ss io n ,
t h a t a q u o r u m is p r e s e n t, a n d t h a t t h e y a r e p r e p a r e d t o r e c e iv e
a n y c o m m u n ic a tio n s h e m a y d e s ir e t o la y b e fo r e th e m ,
ih e
P r e s id e n t h a s d ir e c te d m e to s a y to t h e H o u s e t h a t h e w ' 1
p r e s e n t h is m e s s a g e to th e H o u s e a n d t h e S e n a te in p e r s o n a t
1 o ’c lo c k to -d a y .
C H A N G E OF REFERENCE.

Mr H O USTO N
M r. S p e a k e r , I a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t
a m e m o r ia l in s u p p o r t o f t h e b ill ( H . R . 9 0 2 2 ) to r a t if y t h e a c t
o f t h e L e g is la tu r e o f H a w a ii r e la t in g t o t h e f r a n c h is e o f t h e
H o n o lu lu R a p id T r a n s it & L a n d C o. b e t r a n s f e r r e d fr o m t h e
C o m m itte e o n I n s u la r A f f a ir s to t h e C o m m itte e o n t h e T e r r i­
t o r ie s . T h e b ill H . R . 9 0 2 2 w a s r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e o n
t h e T e r r ito r ie s a n d i s n o w p e n d in g b e fo r e t h a t c o m m itte e .
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e g e n t le m a n fr o m T e n n e s s e e a s k s u n a n i­
m o u s c o n s e n t to c h a n g e t h e r e f e r e n c e o f t h is m e m o r ia l fr o m t h e ;
C o m m itte e o n I n s u la r A f f a ir s t o t h e C o m m itte e o n t h e T e r r i­
to r ie s . I s th e r e o b je c tio n ?
T h e r e w a s n o o b je c tio n .
R E G U L A T IO N OF C O M M E R C E .

M r. L E V Y . M r. S p e a k e r , I a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t to e x ­
te n d my r e m a r k s in t h e R ecord f o r t h e p u r p o s e o f explaining a
b ill w h ic h I h a v e in tr o d u c e d , IT. R . 9 3 9 4 , to a m e n d s e c tio n 6 o f
t h e a c t e n t it le d “ A n a c t t o r e g u la t e c o m m e r c e ,” a p p r o v e d F e b ­
r u a r y 4 , 1 8 8 7 , a n d a m e n d m e n ts th e r e to .
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e g e n t le m a n fr o m N e w Y o r k [M r. L evy ]
a s k s u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t to e x t e n d h i s r e m a r k s in t h e R ecord
in t h e m a n n e r s t a t e d . I s t h e r e o b je c tio n ?
T h e r e w a s n o o b je c tio n .
R E C E SS.

M r. U N D E R W O O D . M r. S p e a k e r , t h e j o in t s e s s io n o f t h e
t w o H o u s e s w ill o c c u r a t 1 o ’c lo c k to -d a y . I d o n o t t h in k t h e
M e m b e r s o f t h e S e n a te w i l l b e p r e s e n t h e r e b e f o r e a q u a r te r o f
1 o ’c lo c k . I th e r e f o r e a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t t h e H o u s e
s t a n d in r e c e s s u n til 1 2 o ’c lo c k a n d 4 5 m in u t e s p. m .
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e g e n t le m a n fr o m A la b a m a a s k s u n a n i­
m o u s c o n s e n t t h a t t h e H o u s e s t a n d in r e c e s s u n t il 1 2 o ’c lo c k
a n d 4 5 m in u t e s p. m . I s t h e r e o b je c tio n ?
T h e r e w as. n o o b je c tio n .
A c c o r d in g ly ( a t 1 2 o ’c lo c k a n d 7 m in u t e s p . m .) t h e H o u s e
s to o d in r e c e s s u n t il 1 2 o ’c lo c k a n d 4 5 m in u t e s p. m .
AFTER RECESS.
T h e r e c e s s h a v in g e x p ir e d , t h e H o u s e w a s c a lle d to o r d e r
bv th e S p eak er.
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e C h a ir r e p e a t s t h e s t a t e m e n t t h a t t h e
t h r e e r o w s c lo s e s t t o t h e S p e a k e r ’s s t a n d w i l l b e v a c a t e d f o r
t h e b e n e fit o f t h e S e n a te a n d t h e C a b in e t.
A t 1 o ’c lo c k a n d 3 m in u t e s p. m . t h e D o o r k e e p e r a n n o u n c e d
t h e V ic e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s a n d t h e M e m b e r s o f t h e
U n ite d S t a t e s S e n a te .
T h e M em b ers o f t h e H o u s e r o s e .
T h e S e n a te , p r e c e d e d b y t h e V ic e P r e s id e n t a n d b y t h e ir
S e c r e t a r y a n d S e r g e a n t a t A r m s, e n t e r e d t h e C h a m b e r .
T h e V ic e P r e s id e n t to o k t h e c h a ir a t t h e r ig h t o f t h e S p e a k e r
a n d t h e M e m b e r s o f t h e S e n a te to o k t h e s e a t s r e s e r v e d f o r
th em .
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On th e p art o f th e H o u se th e S p eak er
a p p o in t s M r. U nderwood, M r. F itzgerald , a n d M r. M a n n a s a




c o m m i t t e e t o w a i t u p o n t h e P r e s id e n t .
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T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . O n t h e p a r t o f t h e S e n a te t h e V ico
P r e s id e n t a p p o in ts S e n a to r s K ern , G alling ® ’ , a n d O verm \n
A t 1 o ’c lo c k a n d 8 m in u t e s p. m . t h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d
S ta t e s , e s c o r te d b y t h e j o in t c o m m it t e e o f S e n a t o r s a n d Ite n r e
s e n t a t iv e s , e n te r e d t h e H a ll o f t h e H o u s e a n d s to o d a t tlm
C le r k ’s d e sk , a m id a p p la u s e o n t h e flo o r a n d in t h e g a lle r ie s
The SPEA K ER .
G e n tle m e n o f th e S e n a te a n d H o u s e o f
R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s , I p r e s e n t to y o u t h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d
S ta t e s .
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A D D RESS OF T H E PRESIDE^ (H . DOC. NO. 330).
T h e P R E S I D E N T . M r. S p e a k e r , M r. P r e s id e n t , g en tlem en ,
o f t h e C o n g r e s s : I n p u r s u a n c e o f m y c o n s t it u t io n a l d u ty to
“ g iv e to t h e C o n g r e s s in fo r m a t io n o f t h e s t a t e o f t h e U n io n ,” j
t a k e t h e lib e r t y o f a d d r e s s in g y o u o n s e v e r a l m a t t e r s w h ic h
o u g h t, a s i t s e e m s to m e , p a r t ic u la r ly t o e n g a g e t h e a t te n t io n o f
y o u r h o n o r a b le b o d ie s , a s o f a l l w h o s t u d y t h e w e lf a r e a n d
p r o g r e s s o f t h e N a t io n .
. I s h a ll a s k y o u r in d u lg e n c e i f I v e n t u r e t o d e p a r t in so mo
d e g r e e f r o m t h e u s u a l c u s to m o f s e t t in g b e f o r e y o u in fo r m a l
r e v ie w t h e m a n y m a t t e r s w h ic h h a v e e n g a g e d t h e a t t e n t io n an d
c a lle d f o r th e a c t io n o f t h e s e v e r a l d e p a r t m e n t s o f t h e G overn
m e a t o r w h ic h lo o k 'to th e m f o r e a r ly t r e a t m e n t in t h e fu tu r e
b e c a u s e t h e l i s t is lo n g , v e r y lo n g , a n d w o u ld s u f f e r in t h e a b b re­
v ia t io n to w h ic h I s h o u ld h a v e to s u b j e c t it . I s h a l l su b m it to
y o u t h e r e p o r ts o f t h e h e a d s o f t h e s e v e r a l d e p a r t m e n t s , jn
w h ic h t h e s e s u b j e c t s a r e s e t f o r t h in c a r e f u l d e t a il, a n d b e g th a t
t h e y m a y r e c e iv e t h e t h o u g h t f u l a t t e n t io n o f y o u r c o m m itte e s
a n d o f a ll M e m b e r s o f t h e C o n g r e s s w h o m a y h a v e t h e le is u r e
to s t u d y th e m . T h e ir o b v io u s im p o r ta n c e , a s c o n s t it u t in g th e
v e r y s u b s ta n c e o f t h e b u s in e s s o f t h e G o v e r n m e n t, m a k e s co m ­
m e n t a n d e m p h a s is o n m y p a r t u n n e c e s s a r y .
T h e c o u n tr y , I a m t h a n k f u l to s a y , i s a t p e a c e w i t h a ll th e
w o r ld , a n d m a n y h a p p y m a n if e s t a t io n s m u lt ip ly a b o u t u s o f a
g r o w in g c o r d ia lit y a n d s e n s e o f c o m m u n it y o f in t e r e s t a m o n g
t h e n a t io n s , f o r e s h a d o w in g a n a g e o f s e t t le d p e a c e a n d good
W ill. M o r e a n d m o r e r e a d ily e a c h d e c a d e d o t h e n a t io n s m a n i­
f e s t t h e ir w i l l i n g n e s s t o b in d t h e m s e lv e s b y s o le m n t r e a t y to th e
p r o c e s s e s o f p e a c e , t h e p r o c e s s e s o f f r a n k n e s s a n d fail* c o n c e s ­
s io n
S o f a r t h e U n it e d S t a t e s h a s s to o d a t t h e f r o n t o f such
n e g o t ia tio n s . S h e w ill, I e a r n e s t ly h o p e a n d c o n fid e n tly b e lie v e
g i v e f r e s h p r o o f o f h e r s in c e r e a d h e r e n c e to t h e c a u s e o f in te r ­
n a t io n a l f r ie n d s h ip b y r a t if y in g t h e s e v e r a l t r e a t ie s o f a r b itr a ­
t io n a w a i t i n g r e n e w a l b y t h e S e n a te . I n a d d itio n to th e s e , it
h a s b e e n t h e p r iv ile g e o f t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f S t a t e to g a in th e
a s s e n t , in p r in c ip le , o f n o l e s s t h a n 8 1 n a t io n s , r e p r e s e n tin g
f o u r -f ift h s o f th e * p o p u la tio n o f t h e w o r ld , to t h e n e g o t ia tio n of
t r e a t ie s b y w h ic h i t s h a ll h e a g r e e d t h a t w h e n e v e r d iffe r e n c e s
o f in t e r e s t o r o f p o lic y a r is e w h ic h c a n n o t b e r e s o lv e d b y th e
o r d in a r y p r o c e s s e s o f d ip lo m a c y t h e y s h a ll b e p u b lic ly a n a ly z e d ,
d is c u s s e d , a n d r e p o r te d u p o n b y a t r ib u n a l c h o s e n b y t h e p ar­
t i e s b e f o r e e it h e r n a t io n d e t e r m in e s i t s c o u r s e o f a c tio n .
T h e r e i s o n ly o n e p o s s ib le s t a n d a r d b y w h ic h to d e te r m in e
c o n t r o v e r s ie s b e t w e e n t h e U n it e d S t a t e s a n d o t h e r n a tio n s , and
t h a t is c o m p o u n d e d o f t h e s e t w o e l e m e n t s : O u r o w n h o n o r and
o u r o b lig a t io n s to t h e p e a c e o f t h e w o r ld . A t e s t s o co m p o u n d ed
o u g h t e a s i ly to b e m a d e to g o v e r n b o th t h e e s t a b lis h m e n t 0f
n e w t r e a t y o b lig a tio n s a n d t h e in t e r p r e t a t io n o f t h o s e a lr e a d y
a ssu m ed .
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T h e r e i s b u t o n e c lo u d u p o n o u r h o r iz o n .
I h a t h a s sh ow n
i t s e l f to t h e s o u t h o f u s , a n d h a n g s o v e r M e x ic o . T h e r e c a n be
n o c e r t a in p r o s p e c t o f p e a c e in A m e r ic a u n t il G e n . H u e r t a h a s
s u r r e n d e r e d h i s u s u r p e d a u t h o r it y in M e x ic o [ a p p la u s e ] ; u n til
i t i s u n d e r s to o d o n a ll h a n d s , in d e e d , t h a t s u c h p r e te n d e d gov­
e r n m e n ts w i l l n o t b e c o u n te n a n c e d o r d e a lt w it h b y t h e G ov­
e r n m e n t o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s .
W e a r e t h e f r ie n d s o f c o n sti­
t u t io n a l g o v e r n m e n t in A m e r i c a ; w e a r e m o r e t h a n i t s fr ie n d s,
w e a r e i t s c h a m p io n s ; b e c a u s e i n n o o t h e r w a y c a n o u r n e ig h ­
b o r s , to w h o m w e w o u ld w i s h in e v e r y w a y to m a k e p r o o f of
o u r f r ie n d s h ip , w o r k o u t t h e ir o w n d e v e lo p m e n t in p e a c e and
lib e r t y . M e x ic o h a s n o g o v e r n m e n t. T h e a t t e m p t t o m a in ta in
o n e a t t h e C ity o f M e x ic o h a s b r o k e n d o w n , a n d a m e r e m ilita r y
d e s p o t is m h a s b e e n s e t u p w h ic h h a s h a r d ly m o r e t h a n th e
s e m b la n c e o f n a t io n a l a u t h o r it y . I t o r ig in a t e d in t h e u su r p a ­
t io n o f V ic t o r ia n o H u e r t a , w h o , a f t e r a b r i e f a t t e m p t to p lay
t h e p a r t o f c o n s t it u t io n a l P r e s id e n t , h a s a t l a s t c a s t a s id e even
t h e p r e t e n s e o f le g a l r ig h t a n d d e c la r e d h i m s e l f d ic t a to r . A s a
c o n s e q u e n c e , a c o n d itio n o f a f f a ir s n o w e x i s t s in M e x ic o w h ic h
h a s m a d e i t d o u b tf u l w h e t h e r e v e n t h e m o s t e le m e n ta r y and
f u n d a m e n t a l r ig h t s e it h e r o f h e r o w n p e o p le o r o f t h e c itiz e n s
o f o t h e r c o u n t r ie s r e s id e n t w i t h i n h e r t e r r it o r y c a n lo n g be
s u c c e s s f u lly s a f e g u a r d e d , a n d w h ic h t h r e a t e n s , i f lo n g c o n tin u e d ,
to im p e r il t h e i n t e r e s t s o f p e a c e , o r d e r , a n d t o le r a b le l i f e in the

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b e r e tu r n e d to t h e c o u r t f o r f u r t h e r e x a m in a tio n , w h ic h w a s
r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e o n C la im s a n d o r d e r e d to b e p r in te d .

December 3, 1913.

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T h e S e n a t e m e t a t 1 0 o ’c lo c k a. m .
P r a y e r b y t h e C h a p la in , R e v . F o r r e s t J . P r e tt y m a n , D . D .
T h e J o u r n a l o f y e s t e r d a y ’s p r o c e e d in g s w a s r e a d a n d a p p r o v e d .
REI*OST OF T H E I S T H M I A N

C A N A L C O M M IS S I O N

(H .

DOC. N O .

4 2 6 ).

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T la id b e fo r e t h e S e n a t e t h e f o llo w in g
m e s s a g e fr o m t h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s , w h ic h w a s
r e a d a n d r e f e r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e o n I n t e r o c e a n ic C a n a ls a n d
o r d e r e d to h e p r i n t e d :

To the Senate and H ou se o f R ep resen ta tiv es:
P u r s u a n t to t h e r e q u ir e m e n ts o f c h a p te r 1 3 0 2 ( 3 2 S t a t s ., p.
4 8 3 ) , “A n a c t t o p r o v id e f o r t h e c o n s t r u c t io n o f a c a n a l con . n e c t in g t h e w a t e r s o f t h e A t la n t ic a n d P a c ific O c e a n s ,” a p ­
p r o v e d J u n e 28; 1 9 0 2 , I t r a n s m it h e r e w it h t h e a n n u a l r e p o r t o f
t h e I s t h m ia n C a n a l C o m m is s io n f o r t h e f is c a l y e a r e n d e d J u n e
30, 1013 .
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m a s t e r , b e r e t u r n e d to t h e
c o u r t f o r f u r t h e r e x a m in a t io n , w h ic h w a s r e f e r r e d to t h e C o m ­
m it t e e o n C la im s a n d o r d e r e d to b e p r in te d .
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P r e s id e n t , I fin d in m y m a il n u m e r o u s
le t t e r s a n d t e le g r a m s pti t h e n a t u r e o f m e m o r ia ls relatino- t o t h e
H e t e h H e t c h y h ill, sF liich i s n o w u n d e r c o n s id e r a tio n * I w i l l
n o t a s k t o b u r d e n J h e R ecord w i t h t h e s e le t t e r s a n d t e le g r a m s
b u t I w i l l a s k u n fS iim o u s c o n s e n t to h a v e o n e o f t h e t e le g r a m s
read.
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T h e r e b e in g n o o b je c tio n , t h e t e le g r a m w a s r e a d a n d o r d e r e d
to l ie o n t liq 'f a b le , a s f o l lo w s :
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Hon. .Tacob 'H, Gaulinger,

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S e n a t e ’C ham ber, W a sh in gton , D. C .:

I resrapffully urge the importance of voting against Heteh Hetchv
bill. aujjUtiius helping to prevent an irreparable injustice from bein®*
commjffed against the American Nation. This is not a plea put. forth
by
sentimentalists or enthusiasts, but the best intelligence and
forethought of the entire country are against the proposed scheme
practicable sources of supply are available for San Francisco'
IM tch Hetchy Valley, which would be ruined by reservoir scheme is
the essential key to northern half of Vosemite National Park. It can
yp°
™ade readily accessible. This is not a passing question of to-day,
M A R I T I M E C A N A L CO. OF N IC A R A G U A ( I I . DOC. N O . 3 6 2 ) .
?but for all time. I respectfully and earnestly urge you to oppose such
a
dangerous
precedent as giving away without real necessity an essen­
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T la id b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e a c o m m u n ic a |
tial part of a precious national possession.
t io n f r o m t h e S e c r e t a r y o f t h e I n t e r io r , t r a n s m it t in g , p u r s u a n t
G. F. Schw arz ,
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A m e s s a g e fr o m t h e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n t a t iv e s , b y J . C. S o u th ,
i t s C h ie f C le r k , a n n o u n c e d t h a t t h e H o u s e h a d p a s s e d t h e
b ill ( S . 2 3 1 8 ) a u t h o r iz in g t h e a p p o in t m e n t o f e n v o y s e x t r a o r d i­
n a r y a n d m in is t e r s p le n ip o t e n t ia r y to e a c h P a r a g u a y a n d
U ru gu ay.

t o la w , t h e r e p o r t o f t h e M a r it im e C a n a l C o. o f N ic a r a g u a , s u b ­
m itt e d D e c e m b e r 1. 1 9 1 3 , w h ic h , w it h t h e a c c o m p a n y in g p |tp e r ,
w a s r e f e r r e d t o t h e C o m m it te e o n I n t e r o c e a n ic C a n a l* a n d
o r d e r e d to b e p r in te d .
S P R IN G F IE L D A R M O R Y A N D R O C K IS L A N D A P .S E N A L

( H . DOC. N O . 3 4 0 ) .

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T l a id b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e a c o m m u n ic a ­
tio n fr o m t h e S e c r e t a r y o f W a r , t r a n s m it t in g , p u r s u a n t t o la w ,
a s t a t e m e n t s u b m itt e d b y t h e C h ie f o f O r d n a n c e , U n it e d S t a t e s
A r m y , o f t h e e x p e n d it u r e s f o r a r m s , c o m p o n e n t s v b f a r m s , a p ­
p e n d a g e s f a b r ic a t e d , a lt e r e d , a n d r e p a ir e d d u r in g ’ t h e fis c a l y e a r
e n d e d J u n e 30, 1 9 1 3 , a t t h e S p r in g fie ld Armory, S p r in g fie ld ,
M a s s., a n d a t t h e R o c k I s la n d A r s e n a l, R o c k I s la n d , 111., w h ic h ,
w it h t h e a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r , w a s r e f e r r e d to ^ fh e C o m m it te e o n
M ilit a r y A f f a ir s a n d o r d e r e d t o l>e p r in te d . /

H a m pton C ourt, B ro o k lin e, M ass.

M r. P E R K I N S .
M r. P r e s id e n t , I h a v e h a d s e n t t o m e b y
m a il fr o m S a n F r a n c is c o p e t i t i o n s s ig n e d b y 2 0 ,0 0 0 r e p r e s e n t a ­
t i v e c it iz e n s o f t h a t c it y , p r a y in g f o r t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e b ill
g iv in g S a n F r a n c is c o t h e r ig h t to u s e t h e w a t e r s o f t h e H e t e h
H e t c h y r e s e r v o ir s it e . I a s k th at, o n e of. t h e p e t it io n s m a y b e
r e a d a n d t h a t t h e y m a y a ll l i e o n t h e ta b le .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . W it h o u t o b je c tio n , o n e o f t h e p e t i­
t i o n s w i l l b e r e a d , o m it t in g t h e n a m e s .
T h e S e c r e t a r y r e a d a s f o i lo w s :
TOUR DUTY IS TO LET SAN FRANCISCO HAVE THE WATER SUPPLY IT NEEDS
FOR ITS FUTURE PRESERVATION.
To th e S en ate o f th e U nited S ta te s :

We, the undersigned citizens of California, ask your favorable action
on the hill giving San Francisco the right to use the water of the Heteh
Hetchy reservoir site.
The Tuolumne River in the Heteh Hetchy Valley furnishes the only
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T l a id b e fo r e t h e S e n a t e t h e t w e n t y - available water supply not under private ownership. San Francisco
t h ir d a n n u a l r e p o r t o f t h e B o a r d o f O r d n a n c e a n d F o r t if ic a ­ owns three-fourths of the land in that valley in fee simple and it only
t io n s f o r t h e fis c a l y e a r e n d e d J u n e 3 0 , h »13, w h ic h w a s r e f e r r e d requires your favorable action on this bill to let us utilize our owner­
ship of that land so that it will procure for us a water supply without
t o t h e C o m m it te e o n M ilit a r y A f f a ir s arid o r d e r e d to b e p r in te d . which the future of San Francisco is endangered.
San Francisco's need of this water supply is urgent and imperative.
T R A V E L OF E M P L O Y E E S OF I N T E liS T A T B v C O M M E K C E C O M M IS S I O N .
Without it the city is throttled ; its health menaced ; Its development
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T la id b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e a c o m m u n i­ blocked.
The Government of the United States has completed the Panama
c a t io n fr o m t h e I n t e r s t a t e C o m m e r c e C o m m is s io n , t r a n s m it t in g ,
Canal. One of the principal benefits looked for from this magnificent
p u r s u a n t t o la w , a s t a t e m e n t s h o w f h g t h e t r a v e l o f o ffic ia ls a n d enterprise was the development of the western edge of the United
e m p lo y e e s o f t h e c o m m is s io n o n lo iiic ia l b u s in e s s fr o m W a s h ­ States, of which San Francisco is the metropolis. No benefit can accrue
in g to n to p o in t s o u t s id e t h e D J t r i c t o f C o lu m b ia d u r in g t h e to San Francisco through the Panama Canal if there is withheld from
it a water supply capable of sustaining the health and life of the com­
fis c a l y e a r e n d e d J u n e 3 0 , 1 9 1 3 H I I . D o c . N o . 3 G 9 ), w h ic h , w it h
munity.
Senators of the United States, San Francisco asks you for simple
t h e a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r , w a s * r e f e r r e d to t h e C o m m it te e on
justice;
for fair play. You have already granted to Seattle, to Port­
A p p r o p r ia tio n s a n d o r d e r e d t q 'b e p r in te d .
land, and to Los Angeles the use of Federal reserves' which gave those
H e a ls o la id b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e a c o m m u n ic a t io n f r o m t h e cities the water supplies they needed.
Tbe need of no city ever has been so great as the need of San Fran­
I n t e r s t a t e C o m m e r c e C o m m is s io n , t r a n s m it t in g , p u r s u a n t to la w ,
in this emergency.
a s t a t e m e n t o f e x p e n s e s in c u r r e d b y o ffic e r s a n d e m p lo y e e s in cisco
We ask your favorable vote on this bill, which will give San Francisco
c o n n e c t io n w it h m e e t in g s j b r c o n v e n t io n s u n d e r w r it t e n a u t h o r ­ the only available water supply adequate to supply its present and
future needs.
it y o f t h e S e c r e t a r y o f t h e I n t e r s t a t e C o m m e r c e C o m m is s io n
REPO RT O N O R D N A N C E A N D F O R T IF IC A T IO N S T i l .

DOC. N O . 3 4 1 ) .

( H . D o c . N o . 3 8 3 ) , w hj|ph, w it h t h e a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r , w a s
r e f e r r e d to t h e C o m m it te e o n A p p r o p r ia t io n s a n d o r d e r e d t o b e
P r in te d .
N
.. M
BUZZARDS B A Y BUOY, M A S S A C H U S E T T S

( S . DOC. N O . 2 5 4 ) .

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T l a i d b e f o r e t b e S e n a t e a c o m m u n i­
c a tio n fr o m th e S e c r e t a r y o f C o m m e r c e , t r a n s m it t in g , in r e ­
sp o n s e to a r e s o lu t io n o f t h e 2 5 t h u ltim o , c e r t a in in fo r m a t io n
r e la t iv e to t h e p la c in g o f b u o y s a n d t h e m a r k in g o f t h a t p a r t
° f t h e public* n a v ig a b le w a t e r s o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s in B u z z a r d s
M a s s ., e t c .fr- w h ic h , w i t h t h e a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r , w a s
r e fe r r e d to t h e J c o m m i t t e e o n C o m m e r c e a n d o r d e r e d t o b e
P r in te d .
T. L.

M lVE V.

U N IT E D

STATES

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DOC.

NO.

2 5 5 ).

T P e V I C E ^ P R E S I D E N T la id b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e a c o m m n n lrj<tion fr o m i n e C h ie f J u s t i c e o f t h e C o u r t o f C la im s , r e q u e s t in g
h a t t h e f in d in g s a n d o p in io n o f t h e c o u r t in t h e c a s e o f T . L .
*0ve, su r v iv in g p a r t n e r o f R o b e r t L o v e & S o n , v . U n it e d S t a t e s




T b e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e p e t i t i o n s w i l l l i e o n t h e ta b le .
Mi*. P E R K I N S . I p r e s e n t a p e t it io n o f c i t i z e n s o f A la m e d a
C o m ity , C a l., p r a y in g f o r t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e p e n d in g H e t e h
H e t c h y b ill. I t i s s ig n e d b y s e v e r a l h u n d r e d c it iz e n s .
I a sk
th a t it m a y be read.
T h e r e b e in g n o o b je c tio n , t h e p e t it io n w a s r e a d a n d o r d e r e d t o
l i e o n t h e t a b le , a s f o l lo w s :
PETITION TO THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES.

The undersigned citizens of Alameda County earnestly ask that -®ou
act favorably on the bill giving San Francisco the right to use the
Heteh Hetchy Reservoir site.
We ask this for several reasons.
San Francisco, through the Spring Valley Water Co., is now takin®
from this county its water supply, doing our county great damage and
if the Spring Valley Co. is allowed to perfect present plans will destroy
the future prosperity of both Washington and Pleasanton Townships
one of the most fertile sections in California.
The People’s Water Co., supplying the city of Oakland, is also draw_ig its principal water supply from Washington Township, adding
to the damage already done and now being done by the Spring Valley

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This county needs all the water its ware
Hetch Hetchy sup- lie on th e tab le, a s f o l lo w s :
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npqtructinn Tt is our
ply is necessary to save our county from further destruction, i t is our
o f t h e S a n F r a n c is c o F ir e D e p a r t m e n t ( I n c .) ,
San F ra n cisco , N ovem b er 2), jgjj
only hope.
j . e . J acobus
(And others).
non. C h a r l e s S. T h o m a s ,
n .

h a v in g d o w n ° s te a d T ly ^ w iu t^ lie inci'ea^ng^dem^iids m ade'uponlheS

Mr W ORKS
I s u b m it a t e le g r a m f r o m J o h n E . W illia m s ,
s e c r e t a r y o f t h e w a t e r u s e r s ’ a s s o c ia t io n , w b ic li I a s k m a y b e
1 0 T h e r e b e in g n o o b je c tio n , t h e t e le g r a m w a s r e a d a n d o r d e r e d
to lie on t h e ta b le , a s f o l l o w s :
Ce re s,

Cal ., D ecem b er 2, 1013.

Senator W orks ,

Care W. O. L eh a n e, Congress H a ll H o tel,
W a sh in gton , D. C .:

Mass meeting held December 1. Unanimous opposition to attitude
and acts of board of directors in supporting in any way the Raker bill.
Unanimous in condemning the attitude of the board refusing to appro­
priate
500 asked by the people of Turlock district to light Kakei
hill Unanimous in condemning adoption by board of resolution of apnroval to the Raker bill. Contrary to the belief and wishes of a great
maioritv of water users and taxpayers. Committee appointed to compel
appropriation of money. Probable demand for resignation of directors
or recall proceedings.
j0HN E . w i l l i a m s , .
S ecreta ry o f 'W a ter Users’ A ssocia tion ,

M r. W O R K S . I a ls o s u b m it a te le g r a m fr o m T . C. H o c k in g ,
o f t h e Modesto M o r n in g H e r a ld , o n t h e s a m e s u b j e c t , w h ic h 1
a s k m a y b e p r in te d in t h e R e c o r d w it h o u t r e a d in g .
T h e r e being no objection, the telegram w a s ordered to lie oi
t h e t a b le and to be printed in the R ecord, as follow s.

Modesto, Cal., D ecem ber 2, 1013.

Senator

W orks,

W a sh in gton , D. C .:

n ,.tn K,.,. n t signed with others telegram published in C o n g r e s s io n a l
Rf? ord October U page 0072. Modesto Morning Herald, of which
? n f owner and editor, is by far largest circulated paper Stanislaus
County embracing Modesto-Turlock irrigation districts. Line up in
Congress and Cabinet at that time seemed to leave us no hope beyond
Raker hill compromise, although I have ever contended no water should
he taken from this semiarid valley when can be obtained (and at less
cost) from nonarid sources. Since October 6 San I rancisco Chronicle
and other influences there, assuming victory for Raker hill, have ieneatedlv declared hill of no effect save for grant to San Francisco, and
that promptly on passage action be brought to set aside all but grant.
1 Further, now find full 95 per cent water users opposed to bill
If
hill passed, limits our resources and leaves to perpetual aridity *00,000
acres additional. We have added 20,000 prosperous people because of
irrigation to Modesto-Turlock districts in less than 1(5 years and have
room in same districts 20,000 more. Bill should be killed. San Fran­
cisco can set three times present .supply from Spring Valley souices
and more water nt less cost from nonarid sources than from Iletcli
Uotchv power. Opportunities and rich pickings therefrom for poli­
ticians through leasehold privileges represent milk In coconut.
T. C- H ocking,
M od esto M orning H erald.

M r. W O R K S . I a ls o s u b m it a m e m o r ia l o f w a t e r u s e r s
w i t h i n t w o o f t h e ir r ig a t io n d is t r i c t s — t h e M o d e s to a n d T u r lo c k
d i s t r i c t s — o p p o s in g t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e H e t c h H e t c h y b ill. I a s k
t h a t t h e m e m o r ia l m a y b e r e a d , o m it t in g t h e n a m e s .
T h e r e b e in g n o o b je c tio n , t h e m e m o r ia l w a s r e a d a n d o r d e r e d
to l i e o n t h e t a b le , a s f o l lo w s :
To th e honorable S en a tors o f th e U nited S ta te s, W a sh in gton , D. C .:

The present serious needs of our districts and the agricultural de­
velopment of our great valley absolutely require the preservation ot our

U nited S ta tes S en a te, W a sh in gton , D . C..

Wo the undersigned officers of the Widows and Orphans’ Mutual Am
Associations of6the San Francisco Fire Department Inc.) in behalf $
taid associations most earnestly ask for your Vote and support *
favor of giving to our beloved city of San iianci&co the right to bro
fh l much needed water supply, and the only supply adequate to melt
its nresent as well as its future needs. ^
.
,
We ask your favorable vote on this hill as a matter of Justice
us the use of the waters of the Iletch Hetchy I £lley and the Tuohmm^
River.
Respectfully submitted.
Oapt. W i l l i s E. G a l l a t i n , Jr., P residen t
G e o r g e F . B r o w n , S ecreta ry ,
Captain E n g in e Co. N o. 30,
%136 G eary S tr e e t, San F ra n cisco, Cal

P E T IT I O N S

AND

M E M O R IA L S .

T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T p resen ted r e so lu tio n s a d o p ted by th6
M erc h a n ts’ A s so c ia tio n o f H o n o lu lu , T e r r ito r y o f H a w a ii, favor­
in g th e e n a ctm e n t o f le g is la tio n con firm in g th e a c t o f th e L egis_
la tu r e o f th e T e r r ito r y o f H a w a ii, a m en d in g th e fr a n c h ise held
by th e H o n o lu lu R a p id T r a n s it & L an d Co., w h ic h w e r e referred
to th e C o m m ittee on th e P a cific Is la n d s a n d P o rto R ico.
H e a lso p r e se n te d a m em o ria l sig n e d b y su n d ry tea ch ers 0f
B e lm o n t, M ass., a n d a m em o r ia l o f th e C o n n ecticu t W om an’s
S u ffra g e A s so c ia tio n , re m o n str a tin g a g a in s t th e p a ss a g e o f the
so -ca lled H e tc h H e tc h y b ill, w h ic h w e r e o rd ered to lie on the
tab le.
L
.
.
H e a lso p r e se n te d a teleg ra m , m th e n a tu r e o f a petition
from th e e x e c u tiv e b oard o f th e S a n F r a n c isc o d is t r ic t o f the
C a lifo r n ia F e d e r a tio n o f W o m a n ’s C lubs, p r a y in g fo r th e pas.
sa g e o f th e so -c a lle d H e tc h H e tc h y b ill, w h ic h w a s o rd ered to lie
on th e ta b le .
. .
„
TT
^
M r T H O M P S O N p r e se n te d p e t itio n s o f th e u n ite d T r a d e s and
L ab or C ou n cil o f P ittsb u r g , K a n s .; o f th e K a n s a s S o ciety o£
C a lifo rn ia , o f S a n F r a n c isc o , C a l.; a n d o f th e C a lifo r n ia einfc
o f S a n F ra n cisco , C al., p ra y in g fo r th e p a s s a g e o f th e so-called
H e tc h H e tc h y b ill, w h ic h w ere o rd ered to lie on th e .table.
Mr. G R O N N A . I h a v e r ece iv e d a n u m b er o f m em o r ia ls from
w h a t is k n o w n a s th e P e n n s y lv a n ia A s so c ia tio n O pposed to
W om an S u ffra g e. I a sk th a t th e t e x t o f o n e o f th e m em orials
m ay be p r in te d in th e R ecord , a n d t h a t t h e y m a y b e referred
to th e C o m m ittee on W om an S u ffra g e.
T h er e b ein g n o o b jectio n , th e t e x t o f on e o f th e m em orials
w a s o rd ered to b e p r in te d in th e R ecord , a s f o l l o w s :
AMERICAN WOMEN DO NOT WANT TO VOTE--- PENNNSYLVANIA ASSOCIATION
OPPOSED TO WOMAN SUFFRAGE.
To the Hon. A sle J. Giionna,

P h il a d e l p h ia .

S en a to r from N orth D a k ota ,
U nited S ta tes S en a te, W a sh in gton , D. O.

D ear S ir : I am strongly opposed to extending the franchise to
women, thereby depriving them of their rights as women and putting

n Iyheamvet%
o f this country are makin.
° UThe undersigned water users of the Modesto irrigation district hereby UPS
petition and ask you not to pass any bill granting to San I raricisco or this demand, and I think, moreover, it is a question for the States, not
the
National
Government,
to
decide.
.
any other party the right to divert any of ths waters of the luolum ne
Hoping you will aid the women of America in_ their fight for the
River from the San Joaquin Valley.
preservation
of
our
homes,
our
Nation,
and
our civilization by voting
San Francisco has no necessity which can not be mot from other
sources. We appeal to you to protect our homes and farms from this against any resolution providing for such an amendment to our Consti­
tution,
believe
me,
TATAUV G
^
injustice.
V ow trnlv VOUrS.
JYlAIiY v . 1VNOWLT3R >.
Data supporting our position will he placed in the hands of each
7
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555 P elh am R oa d, M ou nt A ir y , Philadelphia.
Senator in due time.
. M r s . - S T U f ■K 'N O W iiES.
N o v e m b e r 17, 1913.
,
?
Mr. O W E N p r e se n te d a m em o r ia l sig n ed b y th e f a c u lt y .and
M r. W O R K S . T h e m e m o r ia ls w h ic h I n o w p r e s e n t r e m o n ­
s tu d e n ts o f th e U n iv e r s ity o f O k lah om a, N o rm a n , O kla., re_
s t r a t i n g a g a i n s t t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e b ill a r e sig n ed _ b y 1 ,8 6 5 o l’
m o n s tr a tin g a g a in s t th e p a s s a g e o f t h e so -c a lle d H e tc h Hetchy
t h e w a t e r u s e r s w i t h i n t h e T u r lo c k i r r ig a t io n d i s t r i c t a n d o v e r
9 0 0 .o f t h e w a t e r u s e r s w i t h i n t h e M o d e s to ir r ig a t io n d is t r ic t . b ill, w h ic h w a s ord ered to lie on th e ta b le .
M r. P E R K I N S p r e se n te d a p e titio n o f su n d ry citizen s of
I a s k t h a t t h e m e m o r ia ls l i e o n t h e ta b le .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . W it h o u t o b je c tio n , i t i s s o o r d e r e d . S a n F r a n c isc o , C al., p r a y in g fo r t h e e n a c tm e n t o f legislation
M r. W O R K S . I p r e s e n t a n u m b e r o f m e m o r ia ls o p p o s in g t h e g r a n tin g r e lie f to p e r so n s w h o se r v e d in th e M ilitary- Telegraph
p a s s a g e o f t h e H e t c h H e t c h y b ill. I a s k t h a t t h e y m a y b e r e ­ Corffe 6 i t h e A riffy d u r in g th e C iv il W a r, w h ic h w a s referred
to th e C o m m itte e o n P e n sio n s.
c e iv e d a n d la id o n t h e t a b le .
H e a lso p resen ted a p e titio n o f , U n ite d L a b o re rs’ U n ion No.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h a t a c t io n w i l l b e t a k e n .
M r. W O R K S . I n t h i s c o n n e c t io n I a ls o s u b m it w i t h t h e 1, o f S a n F r a n c isc o , C al., p r a y in g fo r th e e n a c tm e n t o f legisla­
m e m o r ia ls t h e c e r t if ic a te s o f v a r io u s p e r s o n s w h o p r o c u r e d t h e tion to m a k e la w f u l c e r ta in a g r e e m e n ts b e tw e e n em p lo y ees and
s ig n a t u r e s s h o w in g t h a t t h e y a r e t h e o r ig in a l a n d a u t h e n t ic la b o rers an d p erso n s e n g a g e d in a g r ic u ltu r e or h o rticu ltu re and
s i g n a t u r e s o f t h e w a t e r u s e r s w i t h i n t h e d is t r ic t s . I a s k t h a t to lim it th e is s u in g o f in ju n c tio n s in c e r ta in ca se s, and for
o th e r p u rp o ses, w h ic h w a s r e fe r r e d to th e C o m m ittee on the
t h e c e r t if ic a t e s l i e on. t h e ta b le .
T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T . W it h o u t o b je c tio n , i t i s so o r d e r e d . J u d ic ia r y .




CONGKESSIONAL RECOKD— SENATE.

1913

B I L L S IN T R O D U C E D .

B i l l s w e r e in tr o d u c e d , r e a d t h e fir s t tim e , a n d , b y u n a n im o u s
c o n s e n t , t h e s e c o n d tim e , a n d r e fe r r e d a s f o l lo w s :
B y M r. O W E N :
. .
A b ill ( S . 3 5 3 4 ) g r a n t in g a p e n s io n to E m m a C a in ( w i t h a c ­
c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) ; a n d
A b ill ( S . 3 5 3 5 ) g r a n t in g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n t o E d w a r d P .
C h a m p la in ( w i t h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) ; to t h e C o m m itte e o n
P e n s io n A
B y M r. R A G E :
A b ill ( S . ^ 3 6 ) g r a n t in g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n t o E d w a r d B .
S a w y e r ( w itr r a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r ) ; to t h e C o m m itte e o n P e n ­
s io n s .
B y M r. W A R R E N :
A b ill ( S . 3 5 3 7 ) g r a n t in g a p e n s io n to E lle n M u r p h y ( w i t h
a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) .; a n d
A b ill ( S . 3 5 3 8 ) g r a f t i n g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n to H e n r y H .
H e l p h e n s t i n e ; t o t h e C o ita m itte e o n P e n s io n s .
B y M r. K E R N :
A b ill ( S . 3 5 3 9 ) g r a n t in g a p e n s io n to H a r r y A . B e n e d ic t
( w i t h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s )';
A h ill ( S . 3 5 4 0 ) g r a n t in g a h in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n t o M a r y JP e ir c e ( w i t h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p ter s) ;
A b ill ( S . 3 5 4 1 ) g r a n t in g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n to A lf r e d
D e A r m y ( w i t h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) ; a n d
A b ill ( S . 3 5 4 2 ) g r a n t in g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n to J o h n E .
S p r a t t ( w i t h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) ; t o t h e C o m m itte e on
P e n s io n s .
B y M r. D U l'O N T :
A b ill ( S . 3 5 4 3 ) g r a n t in g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n to C h a r le s
W . S t ig e r s ( w i t h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r ) ; tb_ t h e C o m m itte e on
P e n s io n s .
B y M r. B U R L E I G H :
A b ill ( S . 3 5 4 4 ) g r a n t in g a p e n s io n to J o s i e W . W it b a m ; to
t h e C o m m itte e o n P e n s io n s .
B v M r. G O R E :
A* b ill ( S . 3 5 4 5 ) to p r o v id e f o r t h e h ig h w a y -im p r o v e m e n t
w o r k b y t h e U n ite d S t a t e s D e p a r t m e n t o f A g r ic u lt u r e in c o ­
o p e r a t io n w it h t h e h ig h w a y d e p a r t m e n t s o f t h e s e v e r a l S t a t e s ;
t o t h e C o m m itte e o n A g r ic u lt u r e a n d F o r e s t r y .
THE

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253.)
M r. O W E N . I a s k t h a t a p a p e r b y C a r l S . V r o o m a n , b e in g
a m e m o r ia l r e la t iv e to t h e in i t i a t i v e a n d r e f e r e n d u m in S w it z e r ­
la n d , o r a p o lit ic a l p ilg r im a g e o n t h e i n i t i a t i v e a n d r e fe r e n d u m
in p r a c t ic e , b e p r in te d a s a p u b lic d o c u m e n t.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . W it h o u t o b je c tio n t h e r e q u e s t o f
t h e S e n a t o r fr o m O k la h o m a w i l l b e c o m p lie d w it h .

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e p e n d in g q u e s t io n i s on t h e
a m e n d m e n t p r o p o se d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e in
l i n e 2 to s t r ik e o u t t h e w o r d “ t e n ” a n d in s e r t “ e le v e n .”
M r. G A L L O N G E R . M r. P r e s id e n t — __
M r. B R I S T O W . W ill t h e S e n a t o r k in d ly y ie ld to m e f o r
j u s t a m o m e n t?
M r. G A U L I N G E R . W it h p le a s u r e .
M r. B R I S T O W . M r. P r e s id e n t , m y c o lle a g u e s e e m s t o b e
l a b o iin g u n d er a m is a p p r e h e n s io n a s to m y a t t i t u d e
I w a n t to
a s s u r e h im t h a t I h a v e n o t t h e s l i g h t e s t d e s ir e to d e la y c u r ­
r e n c y le g is la t io n . I t h in k I a m .ju st a s a n x io u s a s h e t h a t th e
l e g is la t io n s h o u ld h e e n a c t e d ,, h u t I a m e x c e e d in g ly d e s ir o u s
a ls o t h a t w h e n e n a c t e d i t s h a l l h e t h e r ig h t k in d o f le g is la t io n
H e r e a d a le t t e r fr o m a M r. C r o sb y , a v e r y w o r t h y g e n t le m a n
in o u r S ta t e . I a ls o h a v e h a d c o m m u n ic a t io n s fr o m t h e s a m e
g e n t le m a n , a n d h e i s j u s t a s a n x io u s t h a t t h e p r e s e n t b ill s h a ll
b e a m e n d e d so t h a t it w ill b e a g o o d m e a s u r e a s h e i s t h a t
a f t e r b e in g a m e n d e d i t s h a ll p a s s .
M y c o lle a g u e r e f e r s to t h e K a n s a s f a r m e r ! I h o p e t h a t h e
w i l l j o in w it h m e in a j o in t e f fo r t to a m e n d t h e h ill s o a s to
m a k e it h e lp f u l t o t h e K a n s a s f a r m e r . U n d e r t h e p r o v is io n s
o f t h e b ill, a s i t p a s s e d t h e H o u s e a n d a s r e p o r te d to t h e S e n a te
b y t h e S e n a t e c o m m itte e , h e a d e d b y t h e c h a ir m a n [M r. O w e n ]
i t d o e s n o t p e r m it t h e p a p e r o f t h e K a n s a s f a r m e r to b e r e d is !
c o u n te d , b e c a u s e h e k n o w s a s w e ll . a s I t h a t t h r e e m o n th s'p a p e r i s n o t t h e k in d o f p a p e r t h a t t h e K a n s a s f a r m e r g iv e s to
t h e b a n k s.
I f m y c o lle a g u e w ill j o in w it h m e in m a k in g t h e b ill u s e f u l
t o t h e p e o p le o f o u r S ta t e , I c e r t a in ly w i l l b e d e lig h t e d to j o in
w it h h im in h a s t e n in g le g is la t io n .
„.M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ?
M r, G A U L I N G E R . I y ie ld f o r a n y m a tt e r t h a t w i l l n o t t a k e
m u c h ’ ^im e.
M r. O W E N . T h e S e n a to r m a y p r o c e e d .
M r. G A L L I N G E I t. M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e r e s o lu tio n s u b m itt e d
b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m I n d ia n a [M r. K e r n ] I p r o p o se d to a m e n d
b y c h a n g in g t h e h o u r fr o m 10 to 1 1 o ’c lo c k . S o m e o th e r S e n ­
a t o r o n t h e D e m o c r a t ic s id e p r o p o se d a n a m e n d m e n t p r o v id in g
f o r e v e n in g - s e s s io n s , a n d I t h in k t h a t i t m ig h t ho w e ll f o r u s
ii| t h e b e g in n in g to u n d e r s t a n d w h e t h e r t h a t i s to b e t h e p rogram .
| l i \ K E R N . ; M r. P r e s id e n t ------M r. G A L L I N G E I t.. H a s t h e S e n a to r m o d ifie d h i s r e s o lu tio n ?
ill* . K E R N . A s t h e m o v e r o f t h e r e s o lu tio n , I a c c e p t e d t h e
a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m M is s is s ip p i [M r.
W

il l ia m s

].

M r. G A L L IN G K R . T h e S e n a to r c a n n o t o f h is o w n v o lit io n
a c c e p t a n a m e n d m e n t. T h a t is f o r t h e S e n a t e to d o. B u t t h e
' M l , S H E P P A R D . M r. P r e s id e n t , a s h o r t w h ile a g o I a s k e d S e n a to r c a n m o d if y h i s r e s o lu tio n in a n y w a y h e s e e s fit.
permission to h a v e c e r t a in m a t t e r r e f e r r in g to r u r a l l i f e a n d .
M r. K E R N . I t i s so m o d ifie d .
r e la t e d p r o b le m s m a d e a S e n a te d o c u m e n t. O n t h e s u g g e s t io n
M r. G A L L I N G E I t. M r. P r e s id e n t , I d is lik e e x c e e d in g ly to
o f a S e n a to r I c o n s e n t e d t h a t t h e p r o p o s e d m a t t e r s h o u ld b e t a k e a s in g le m o m e n t o f t h e t im e o f t h e S e n a te . I a m t r y in g
r e f e r r e d to na,c C o m m itte e o n P r in t in g f o r a r e p o r t. S h o r tly in e v e r y w a y to e x p e d it e t h e b u s in e s s o f t h e S e n a te , a n d y e t
a f t e r t h a t a n o th e r S e n a to r o ffe r e d m a t t e r r e la t in g t o a n o th e r I f e e l c o n s t r a in e d to s a y a f e w w o r d s o n t h e r e s o lu t io n t h a t i s
q u e s t io n a n d r e q u e s te d t h a t i t b e p u b lis h e d a s a S e n a t e d o c u ­ n o w b e f o r e t h e S e n a te .
m e n t a n d n o s u g g e s t io n o r o b je c tio n w a s m a d e .
F o r t h e f ir s t t im e in o u r h is t o r y , M r. P r e s id e n t , o n e s e s s io n o f
I s im p ly w is h to lip y t h a t h e r e a f t e r I s h a ll a s k t h a t a ll m a t ­ C o n g r e s s h a s m e r g e d in to a n o th e r . I j u d g e fr o m t h e a m b it io u s
t e r s p r o p o s e d to h e j o i n t e d a s d o c u m e n t s s h a ll b e r e f e r r e d to p r o g r a m c r e d it e d to t h e P r e s id e n t t h a t t h e r e i s l i t t l e h o p e o f
t l ie C o m m itte e o n P r i c i n g .
t h e a d jo u r n m e n t o f t h i s s e s s io n u n t il l a t e in t h e y e a r , i f in d e e d
M r. S M O O T . I w ill afck t h e S e n a t o r w h o t h e S e n a to r w a s to t h e e x p e r ie n c e t h r o u g h w h ic h w e h a v e p a s s e d i s n o t to h e
w h o m h e r e f e r s a s h a v in g - h a d m a t t e r p r in te d a s a p u b lic d o c u ­ r e p e a te d . A s I u n d e r s t a n d t h e (m atter, it is n o t a t a ll lik e ly
m e n t?
t h a t t h e r e w ill b e a n y h o lid a y r e c e s s , a n d o n y e s t e r d a y t h e
M r. S H E P P A R D . T h e S o licito r fr o m O k la h o m a [M r. O w e n ], s e n io r S e n a to r fr o m M is s is s ip p i [ S t r . W i l l i a m s ] p la in ly to ld
M r. S M O O T . I w i l l s t a t e ^ f r a n k ly t h a t I d id n o t h e a r t h e u s t h a t i t w a s t h e p u r p o s e o f t h e m a j o r it y to h o ld s e s s io n s o f
r e q u e s t. I w is h t o a s s u r e t h e S e n a to r t h a t I d id n o t h e a r it , o r u n u s u a l le n g t h w it h a v ie w o f e x h a u s t in g t h e m in o r it y , a n d in
I w o u ld h a v e o b je c te d .
A
t h a t w a y f o r c in g a n e a r ly v o t e o n t h e c u r r e n c y b ill.
M r. S H E P P A R D , l t h in k i t i s a b e t te r p r a c t ic e t h a t r e q u e s ts
I r e a liz e , M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e f u t i l i t y o f o p p o s in g a r e s o lu tio n
f o r t h e p r in tin g o f p u b lic d o c u m e n t ! s h a ll g o to t h e C o m m itte e t h a t w a s a d o p te d in t h e D e m o c r a t ic c a u cu s* a n d f o r t h a t r e a s o n
o n P r in t in g , a n d I s h a ll b e g la d t o j o in t h e S e n a t o r fr o m U t a h w i l l c o n t e n t m y s e lf b y m a k in g a b r ie f s t a t e m e n t .
in S e e in g h e r e a f t e r t h a t t h i s c o u r s e s h a ll b e t a k e n .
M r. P r e s id e n t , w e w e r e k e p t h e r e d u r in g t h e e n t ir e s u m m e r
M r. S M O O T . I a m v e i’y t h a n k f u l to h e a r it .
on t h e p le a t h a t a t a r if f b ill m u s t b e s p e e d ily p a s s e d s o a s to
l i f t t h e b u r d e n s o f t a x a t i o n f r o m t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le . I r e c a ll
H our. OF D A I L Y M E E T IN G .
t h e f a c t t h a t o n e d is t in g u is h e d D e m o c r a t ic S e n a to r p u t t h e
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir l a y s ' b e f o r e t h e S e n a te b u r d e n a t .$400,000,000, a n d t h e c o n s u m in g p u b lic w a s to b e r e ­
a r e s o lu t io n c o m in g o v e r f r o m a p r e v io u s d a y , w h ic h w i l l b e l ie v e d o f t h a t b u r d e n t h r o u g h t h e le g i s l a t i o n o f t h e D e m o c r a t ic
read.
P a r ty .
T h e S e c r e t a r y r e a d S e n a t e r e s o lu t io n 2 2 5 , s u b m itt e d b y M r.
I t w i l l a ls o b e r e c a lle d in t h a t c o n n e c t io n t h a t t h e n e w t a r if f
K e r n o n t h e 1 s t i n s t a n t , a s f o l lo w s ;
la w , a m o n g o t h e r t h in g s , w a s t o r e d u c e t h e h ig h c o s t o f liv in g
licsolv ed , That the hour of daily meeting of the Senate bo 10 o’clock I n t h e D e m o c r a t ic n a tio n a l p la tf o r m t h a t b o o n w a s p r o m is e d
a. m., and that the Senate shall on each day at 6 o’clock p. m. take a
recess until 8 o’clock p. m. and adjourn at 11 o'clock p. m., until other­ t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le , j u s t a s t h e b o o n o f p le n t if u l m o n e y a n d
wise ordered.
g o o d t im e s is n o w b e in g p r o m is e d i f w e r u s h th r o u g h a c u r r e n c y
P R IN T IN G OF M A T T E R A S D O C U M E N T S .




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m e a s u r e . T h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s a n d t h e S e n a to r
fr o m O k la h o m a w a n t e d t h e s o -c a lle d G la s s -O w e n b i l l p a s s e d a t
r a ilr o a d sp e e d w h e n i t c a m e to t h e S e n a te , b u t s in c e t h e n i t
h a s b e e n so c h a n g e d t h a t t h o s e w h o w r o t e i t m u s t h a v e d iff ic u lty
in r e c o g n iz in g it in i t s p r e s e n t fo r m .
T h e t a r i f f b ill w a s p a s s e d , a n d w h a t i s t h e r e s u l t . H a v e
D e m o c r a t ic p r e d ic t io n s a n d p r o m is e s c o m e t r u e ? L e t u s se e .
H a s t h e h ig h c o s t o f liv in g b e e n r e d u c e d b y t h a t l e g is la t io n ,
w h ic h o c c u p ie d o u r t im e d u r in g t h e h e a t e d t e r m o f t h e la s t
s u m m e r to t h e d e t r im e n t o f t h e h e a lt h o f s o m e o f u s a n d to
t h e g r e a t in c o n v e n ie n c e o f a ll o f u s ? I c lip p e d f r o m t h e W a s h ­
in g to n P o s t o f T h a n k s g iv in g m o r n in g a n it e m h e a d e d 'a s f o l lo w s :
D IN N E R C O ST A RECORD---- T H A N K S G IV IN G FOOD I S
Y EA R S.

H IG H E S T

HERE

FOR

25

the average
Thanksgiving dinner will be the most expensive meal tli
merican h a s eaten during the last 25 years. I t will cost ffrom 35 to
Amer:
)(> per
nor cent more than it did_ 10 years
100
, ago, and from 15 to 5 0 per cent
more than any Thanksgiving Day during the last six years, according to
recently gathered Government statistics.

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ecem ber

3,

I also wish to say to the Senator from New Hampshire that
almost in one single day after the passage of the Democratic
tariff bill the price of barley was reduced 10 cents per bushel
Air. G A L L I N G E R .
A ir. P r e s id e n t , t h a t i s o n ly c u m u la t iv e
e v id e n c e o f t h e s u g g e s t io n I m a d e a m o m e n t a g o t h a t t h is
w o n d e r f u l t a r if f l a w h a s r e d u c e d t h e p r ic e o f t h e f a r m e r ’s
p r o d u c ts a n d a t t h e s a m e t im e h a s in c r e a s e d t h e c o s t o f liv in g
to t h o s e o f u s w h o c o n s u m e th e m .
A ir G R O N N A . T h a t i s c o r r e c t.
M r! G A L L IN G E R . A f e w d a y s a g o , Air. P r e s id e n t , I to o k a
l i t t l e c lip p in g fr o m t h e W a s h in g t o n P o s t , a p a p e r t h a t is
a c c u r a t e in i t s s t a t e m e n t s a s a r u le , c a llin g a t t e n t io n to a v e r y
r e m a r k a b le f a c t . W e h a v e h e a r d a g r e a t d e a l fr o m o u r D e m o ,
c r t ic f r ie n d s a b o u t a f r e e b r e a k f a s t t a b le , a n d t h e r e i s o n e a r t i­
c le t h a t i s f r e q u e n t ly s e e n u p o n t h e b r e a k f a s t t a b le o f A m e r i­
c a n s in t h e fo r m o f m a c k e r e l. T h is e d it o r ia l s a y s :
C O N C E R N IN G T H E F R E E L I S T .

Mackerel was put on the free list, thus ix^ieving that prized article
ol food from a tariff burden of .12 a ban el. The catch this year was
I a ls o c lip p e d fr o m a r e c e n t I s s u e o f t h e W a s h in g t o n T im e s tremendous, being almost without a .paraffel in Ameiican waters, and
the eastern markets report the receipt of exceptionally large qUan.
a n e d it o r ia l w h ic h r e a d s a s f o l l o w s :
titles of the fish from packing points, indicating an oversupply. Never­
theless. the price of mackerel has gone up $3 a barrel instead of going
CANADA'S FOOD SUPPLIES.
$2, as Congress counted on in framing a free lis t that purported
When our new tariff took effect and Canadian meats were given ad­ down
to reduce the cost of living. The keeping qualities of salted mackerel
mittance to the United States, an interesting thing happened. We had make it the mainstay of the consumer in the spring months, particu­
opened the way for cheaper meat hy tariff changes, and what was the larly those who have no easy access to a daily supply of fresh meals.
result?
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, . . , ,
Everybody is nonplused over the contrariwise operation of the new
Canadian meat animals came into our border States, hut instead tariff whereby prices are soaring upward not only at home, but in the
of pushing down the American price the free flow merely served to raise markets of the countries of production. Canada is staggered to find
Canadian prices to our level.
that the open sesame to our markets gives her producers and middle­
It was as if a siphon connection had been established between the men an excuse for marking up prices to near the American level, i a
Atlantic Ocean and a municipal reservoir, in the hope that the reser­ some lines of goods the European countries are similarly affected,
voir would pipe in enough of the ocean’s water to reduce the level ox
the ocean. Instead, it raised the level of the smaller to that of the
vastly larger body, and otherwise had no effect at all.
I th o u g h t , Air. P r e s id e n t , i t m ig h t b e im p o r ta n t j u s t a t t h is
Sir Wilfrid Laurier in a keynote political speech lias presented the
Canadian view of this situation in a striking way. llie new tariff tim e , w h e n w e a r e n o t o n ly c a u t io n e d , h u t fr o m c e r t a in q u a r te r s
policy of the United States had drained away the food products of a r e t h r e a te n e d t h a t w e m u s t r u s h t h r o u g h o t h e r le g i s l a t i o n t h a t
Canada, with the result that prices there have gone up to the United i s g o in g to g r e a t ly b e n e fit t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le , to t a k e a m o ­
States standard. On this side the line we know that prices have not
gone down because of the Introduction of supplies from Canada. We m e n t to c o n s id e r t h e r e s u lt o f t h e n e w t a r if f la w , w h ic h w e
w e r e o v e r a n d o v e r a g a in t o ld m u s t b e p a s s e d w it h g r e a t sp e e d ,
have discovered that there is little chance that they will.
Air. G R O N N A . Air. P r e s id e n t , w i l l t h e S e n a to r f r o m N e w
H a m p s h ir e y ie ld to m e?
T h e AUCE P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m N o r t h D a k o t a ?
Air. G A L L 1 N G E R . I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m N o r th D a k o t a .
Air. G R O N N A . H a s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e a n y
in fo r m a t io n w h e t h e r t h e p r ic e o f c a t t l e h a s a d v a n c e d o r d e ­
c r e a s e d s in c e t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e s o - c a lle d U n d e r w o o d -W ils o n S im m o n s t a r iff b ill?
Air. G A L L IN G E R .
I h a v e o n ly t h e in f o r m a t io n t h a t I g e t
fr o m t h o s e w h o a r e m a k in g p u r c h a s e s , t h a t t h e m e a t p r ic e h a s
in c r e a s e d in t h e r e t a il m a r k e t. B e y o n d t h a t I d o n o t k n o w .
Air. G R O N N A . Air. P r e s id e n t , i f t h e S e n a to r w i l l p e r m it m e,
I w a n t to s a y t h a t s in c e t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e D e m o c r a t ic t a r iff
b ill t h e p r ic e o f c a t t l e a n d h o g s in o u r w e s t e r n c o u n tr y h a s
d e c r e a s e d fr o m 1 t o 2 c e n t s a p o u n d .
Air. G A L L IN G E R . T h a t m a y h e s o ; b u t, i f so , t h e m id d le ­
m a n a n d t h e r e t a ile r h a v e n o t y e t d is c o v e r e d t h a t f a c t , t h o u g h
w e w e r e p r o m is e d b y o u r D e m o c r a t ic f r ie n d s t h a t t h e m id d le ­
m a n a n d t h e r e t a ile r w o u ld d is c o v e r it , so t h a t w e w o u ld h a v e
c h e a p e r fo o d p r o d u c ts . H u n d r e d s o f t h o u s a n d s o f m e n v o t e d
f o r P r e s id e n t W ils o n b e lie v in g t h a t t h e p r o m is e f o r lo w e r fo o d
p r ic e s w o u ld b e f u l f i l l e d ; b u t, a la s , t h e p r o m is e r e m a in s n o t
o n ly u n fu lf ille d , b u t p r ic e s h a v e in c r e a s e d .
A ir. A IcC U A lB E R . I h o p e a ls o t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e w i l l r e c o g n iz e t h e f a c t t h a t e v e r y c e r e a l in t h e N o r t h ­
w e s t h a s d e p r e c ia t e d in p r ic e fr o m 1 5 to 20 p e r c e n t s in c e th e
t a r if f b ill w e n t in t o e ffe c t, a n d t h a t w h i l e t h e r a w f o o d p r o d ­
u c t s o f t h e f a r m e r h a v e d e p r e c ia t e d t h e c o s t to t h e c o n s u m e r
in t h e c it y h a s g o n e s t e a d i l y u p.
A ir. G A L L I N G E R .
T h a t i s a v e r y s ig n if ic a n t f a c t , a n d i t
p r o v e s c o n c lu s iv e ly t h a t t h i s t a r if f la w , w h ic h i t w a s p r o p h e s ie d
w a s g o in g to l i f t t h e s e e n o r m o u s b u r d e n s . fr o m t h e s h o u ld e r s
o f t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le , h a s b e e n a t o t a l a n d ig n o b le f a ilu r e .
I t h a s r e d u c e d t h e in c o m e o f t h e fa r m e r , a n d i t h a s in c r e a s e d
t h e c o s t o f .l i v i n g to t h e u lt im a t e c o n s u m e r ; a n d t h a t w a s
p r o p h e sie d d u r in g t h e d e b a te . W h a t a s p e c t a c le t h a t i s !
Air. G R O N N A . A ir. P r e s id e n t ------T h e AHCE P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m N o r t h D a k o t a ?
A ir. G A L L IN G E R .
I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m N o r t h
D a k o ta .
A ir. G R O N N A . I w is h t o s a y t o t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p ­
s h ir e t h a t t h e p r o d u c ts o f t h e f a r m — w h a t t h e D e m o c r a t s c a ll
r a w m a t e r ia l I c a ll t h e f a r m e r s ’ fin is h e d p r o d u c t, s u c h a s
w h e a t , b a r le y , ry e, o a ts , a n d p o t a t o e s ; in f a c t , e v e r y t h in g t h a t
i s p r o d u c e d o n t h e f a r m — h a s d e c lin e d in p r ic e .




b e c a u s e t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le d e m a n d e d i t a n d t h e w e l f a r e o f
t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le w a s a t s t a k e . A n d n o w , A ir. P r e s id e n t , it
i s g r a v e ly p r o p o s e d b y t h e m a j o r it y to k e e p t h e S e n a t e in s e s ­
s io n 1 1 h o u r s p e r d a y on t h e p le a t h a t t h e im m e d ia t e p a s s a g e
o f t h e c u r r e n c y b ill is a n a b s o lu t e n e c e s s it y . T h e y a r e in d u lg ­
in g t h e h o p e t h a t t h e b a d r e s u lt s o f t h e t a r if f le g i s l a t i o n m a y b e
a iit id a t e d b y c u r r e n c y l e g is la t io n . A ly im p r e s s io n i s t h a t th e y
w ill b e d is a p p o in te d in t h a t r e g a r d .
T h e h o u r s p r o p o s e d in t h e r e s o lu t io n a r e u n u s u a l, u n n e c e s ­
s a r y , a n d o p p r e s s iv e .
T h e y p r e v e n t S e n a t o r s f r o m a t te n d in g
c o m m it t e e m e e t in g s a n d g iv in g p r o p e r a t t e n t io n t o t h e ir c o r­
resp ond en ce.
N ig h t s e s s io n s , A ir. P r e s id e n t , a r e e s p e c ia lly to
b e d e p r e c a te d , a n d t h e y o u g h t n o t to b e in s i s t e d u p o n ; b ut,
a s I h a v e a lr e a d y s u g g e s t e d , t h e c a u c u s f ia t h a s g o n e f o r th , a n d
r e s is t a n c e o n t h e p a r t o f t h e m in o r it y w i l l h e u n a v a ilin g . F o r
t h a t r e a s o n I p r o p o s e t o s u b m it to t h e r e s o lu t io n w it h o u t a n y
s p e c ia l o p p o s itio n .
T h e t a r if f b ill h a s f a i le d to j u s t i f y t h e c la im s o f i t s fr ie n d s .
L a s t m o n t h i t p r o d u c e d a d e f ic it o f m o r e t h a n $ 4 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 in our
n a t io n a l r e v e n u e s . T h e r e d u c e d d u t y o n w o o l h a s j u s t b e c o m e
o p e r a t iv e , a n d t h e d u t y w i l l s o o n b e r e d u c e d o n s u g a r . H o w
m u c h t h e d e f ic it w ill b e w h e n t h o s e t w o p r o d u c ts a r e ta k e n
in t o c o n s id e r a t io n I a m u n a b le t o t e ll. T h e f a c t is , h o w e v e r ,
t h a t t h e h ig h c o s t o f li v i n g h a s n o t b e e n r e d u c e d , h u t h a s b een
in c r e a s e d .
T h e n a t io n a l r e v e n u e s a r e b e in g r e d u c e d to a n
a la r m in g e x t e n t , a n d t h e n e w t a r if f la w , w h ic h w a s c la im e d
to b e t h e g r e a t p a n a c e a f o r t h e i l l s t h a t a fflic t t h e A m e r ic a n
p e o p le , is n o t w o r k in g o u t to t h e s a t i s f a c t i o n o f a n y b o d y w h o is
w i llin g to lo o k a t f a c t s w i t h a n o p e n m in d .
M r. P r e s id e n t , w h i l e w e a r e a l l a n x io u s t o h a s t e n t h e p a s s a g e
o f t h e c u r r e n c y b ill, t h e p r o b a b ilit ie s a r e t h a t t h a t le g is la t io n
w ill f a i l to a c c o m p lis h t h e r o s e a t e r e s u l t s t h a t a r e p r e d ic te d
b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a [A ir. O w e n ] a n d t h o s e w h o
a g r e e w i t h h im . W h e n t h a t h a p p e n s ------M r. A I A R T I N E o f N e w J e r s e y . W ill t h e S e n a t o r p e r m it m e
j u s t th e r e ?
Air. G A L L I N G E R . I a m a lw a y s d e lig h t e d to y i e l d to m y good
f r ie n d fr o m N e w J e r s e y .
M r. A I A R T I N E o f N e w J e r s e y . T h e d i s t in g u is h e d S e n a to r
f r o m N e w H a m p s h ir e h a s p ic t u r e d a h o r r ib le c o n d it io n b e c a u se
t h e r e h a s n o t b e e n a s a t i s f a c t o r y r e s u lt to h i s m in d fr o m th e
o p e r a t io n s o f t h e n e w t a r if f la w in t h e t im e o f a b o u t a co u p le
o f m o n th s , w h e n t h e b u r d e n h a s b e e n p ile d u p o n Ih e A m e r ic a n
p e o p le b y t h e h a n d iw o r k o f t h e R e p u b lic a n P a r t y d u r in g 40
y e a r s o f o p e r a tio n . T h e S e n a to r s a y s t h a t e v e r y t h in g i s g o in g
to c h a o s .
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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE.

1913.

W. A. Zimmerman, president of the Orange Comity Savings and lr u s t
Association, Associated Chambers of Orange County: “ The people of
San Francisco demonstrated by their vote on the bond issue to provide
funds for bringing the waters of the Hetch Hetchy to that city for do­
mestic use that it was a matter of serious and important moment, and
the United States Senate should not block or delay them in acquiring
the needed supply of pure water.”
William L. Peters, mayor of Riverside : “ I am: heartily in sympathy
with the justice of the position assumed by the people of San Francisco,
and desire to see the United States Senate pass; the Hetch Hetchy bill
giving, to San Francisco the right to construct; a storage reservoir in
the Government preserve.”
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W. Ai Vandergrift, mayor of Pomona : “ There are perhaps no people
who can, sympathize more keenly with San Francisco in her fight to
bring the Hetch Hetchy plan to a reality than the people of southern
California. We give the most hearty indorsement to the action being
taken by the Hearst papers in thus coming td the aid of our sister city
in her fight.”
Charles F. Johnson, president Kern Board;of Trade: “ It seems a pity
that San Francisco should have to fight for the right which should be
hers for the ashing, for no city in the world needs an adequate water
supply so much as she does. I am heartily in sympathy with San
Francisco’s fight for an adequate municipal water system.”
H. H. Rose, mayor of Los Angeles : “ I am for it strong. San Fran
cisco is just as much entitled to secure a water supply as Los Angeles
is. We got the Owens River, now San Francisco is after a supply:
hope San Francisco'-,will be successful in this undertaking.”
M r. T H O M A S . L e t m e s a y t h a t t h e M r. M u lh o lla n d r e ­
f e r r e d t o in o n e o f t h e s e s t a t e m e n t s i s t h e i d e n t ic a l e n g in e e r
w h o s e r e p o r t u p o n t h e S p r in g g a l l e y p o s s ib ilit ie s w a s r e a d b y
t h e S e n a to r fr o m C a lif o r n ia [M r. W o r k s ] .
M r. P r e s id e n t , I b e lie v e t h e h o p e e x p r e s s e d b y M a y o r R o s e
is t h e h o p e o f a m a j o r it y o f t h e S e n a te .
I b e lie v e t h e y a r e
im p r e s s e d , a s I a m , w i t h t h e f a c t t h a t S a n F r a n c is c o s e e k s
to c a r r y o u t a n d p e r f e c t a g r e a t ly n e e d e d p u b lic im p r o v e m e n t.
I b e lie v e t h e y r e a l i z e t h a t i t i s n o t o n ly a g r e a t ly n e e d e d p u b lic
im p r o v e m e n t, b u t o n e w h ic h i s a b s o lu t e ly e s s e n t ia l t o t h e
w e lf a r e a n d f u t u r e o f S a n F r a n c is c o a n d t h e o t h e r g r e a t c i t i e s
t h a t c l u s t e r a r o u n d t h e s h o r e s o f S a n F r a n c is c o B a y .
T h e r e a r e to d a y 7 5 0 ,0 0 0 p e o p le l i v i n g in t h o s e c it ie s .
As
t h e y e a r s g o b y t h e y w ill i n c r e a s e a n d m u lt ip ly . I f t h e y i n ­
c r e a s e p r o p o r t io n a t e ly a s t h e y h a v e in c r e a s e d d u r in g t h e p a s t
q u a r te r o f a c e n t u r y , t h e y e a r 2000 w i l l fin d m o r e t h a n 2 ,000,000
in h a b it a n t s , a l l p e r h a p s g a t h e r e d u n d e r o n e g r e a t , m a g n if ic e n t
m u n ic ip a lit y .
T h e w a t e r s u p p ly o f t h a t c i t y h a s b e e n e x t r e m e ly s m a ll f o r
y e a r s . O f r e c e n t y e a r s i t h a s b e e n so, s m a ll t h a t p a r t o f t h e
c it y h a s n o w a t e r , h u t m u s t d e p e n d f o r i t s s u p p ly u p o n t h e
c a r r ia g e o f w a t e r b y h a n d a n d b y w a g o n in t o t h e ir d w e llin g s .
T h e S p r in g V a lle y W a t e r C o h a s b e e n c o m p e lle d t o l a y a n
in t e r d ic t u p o n the* u s e o f i t s w a t e r s u p p ly b e y o n d t h e a b s o lu t e
n e c e s s it ie s o f t h e in h a b it a n ts .
T h e s e c i t i e s o c c u p y a p a r t o f t h e c o u n tr y s o m e t im e s v i s i t e d b y
e a r t h q u a k e s h o c k s , w h ic h a r e n e a r ly a l w a y s f o llo w e d b y g r e a t
c o n f la g r a tio n s . T h e ir n e e d f o r w a t e r t h e r e f o r e ' i s im m e a s u r a b ly
g r e a t e r t h a n t h a t o f o t h e r c it ie s , b e c a u s e o f t h e s e u n f o r t u n a t e
g e o lo g ic a l c o n d itio n s . T h e p e o p le o f t h e s e c i t i e s a r e a s p le n d id
t y p e o f A m e r ic a n c it iz e n s h ip . T h e y a r e p r o g r e s s iv e in b u s in e s s ,
in s o c ia l a n d in p o lit ic a l a f f a ir s , a n d in e c o n o m ic g r o w th . T h e y
c r o w n t h e m o s t m a g n if ic e n t h a r b o r u p o n t h e P a c ific O c e a n .
M r. P r e s id e n t , in f u t u r e y e a r s , w h e n t h e y a r e in t h e e n j o y ­
m e n t o f a s p le n d id a n d a d e q u a te w a t e r s u p p ly , w h e n t h e ir h ig h ­
w a y s a n d h a b it a t io n s a r e fille d w i t h p r o s p e r o u s a n d h a p p y m e n
a n d w o m e n , lo o k in g in to t h e f a c e s o f s m ilin g c h ild r e n , m a y t h e y
lo o k b a c k in g r a t e f u l r e m e m b r a n c e o f t h e S ix t y - t h ir d C o n g r e s s
o f t h e U n i t e d .S t a t e s a n d b le s s i t s M e m b e r s f o r c o n f e r r in g u p o n
t h e m t h i s g r e a t m e a s u r e , w h ic h w i l l s u r e ly g u a r a n t e e t h e ir
p r o s p e r ity , t h e ir g r o w t h , t h e ir w e lf a r e , a n d t h e ir h a p p in e s s .
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b u s in e s s a n d b e f o r e t h e r e g u la r o r d e r i s t a k e n u p , I s h a ll a s k
u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t f o r t h e c o n s id e r a t io n o f S e n a t e b ill N o . 2SC0,
t h e b ill in r e la t io n t o t h e e le c t io n o f U n it e d S t a t e s S e n a to r s r e ­
p o r te d fr o m t h e C o m m itte e o n P r i v il e g e s a n d E le c t io n s s o m e
t im e a g o . I n a ll p r o b a b ilit y i t w i l l g i v e r is e to n o d is c u s s io n .
•u ' A h S M O O T . I w is h to s a y foi t h e S e n a to r fr o m M o n ta n a t h a t
i t w i l l b e im p o s s ib le a t t h a t t im e t o c o n s id e r t h e b ill u n d e r (h e
u n a n im o u s - c o n s e n t a g i e e m e n t w e h a v e . A t t h e c o n c lu s io n o f
t h e m o r n in g b u s in e s s t h e H e t c h H e t c h y b ill w i l l b e l a i d ’ b e f o r e
t h e S e n a te u n d e r t h e u n a n im o u s - c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t
M r. W A L S H . D u r in g t h e m o r n in g h o u r , th e n , i t w o u ld b e
p r o p e r , w o u ld i t n o t?
M r. S M O O T . T h e S e n a to r c a n c a ll u p t h e b ill d u r in g t h e
m o r n in g h o u r , b u t I u n d e r s t o o d t h e S e n a t o r to s a y “ a t t h e c o n
e lu s io n o f m o r n in g b u s in e s s .”
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M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , I w is h to g iv e n o tic e t o t h e S e n ­
a t e t h a t a t t h e f ir s t m o m e n t t h e b u s in e s s o f t h e S e n a t e w i l l p e r ­
m it I e x p e c t to c a ll u p t h e b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y b ill f o r c o n ­
s id e r a t io n a n d a c tio n .
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S E S S IO N .

M r. B A C O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , i f t h e r e i s n o d e s ir e o n t h e p a r t
o f a n y S e n a to r to p r o c e e d im m e d ia t e ly , t h e r e i s s o m e l i t t l e
b u s in e s s f o r u s to a t t e n d t o in e x e c u t iv e s e s s io n . I t w i l l t a k e
b u t a f e w m in u t e s . I t h e r e f o r e m o v e t h a t t h e S e n a t e p r o c e e d
to t h e c o n s id e r a tio n o f e x e c u t iv e b u s in e s s .
M r. S M O O T . I w is h t o a s k t h e S e n a t o r o n e q u e s t io n b e fo r e
t h a t i s d o n e . T h e S e n a to r d o e s n o t d e s ir e a n e x e c u t iv e s e s s io n
f o r a n y c o n fir m a tio n s ?
M r. B A C O N . N o ; t h e r e a r e n o n e o n t h e c a le n d a r . I m o v e
t h a t t h e S e n a t e p r o c e e d t o t h e c o n s id e r a t io n o f e x e c u t iv e
b u s in e s s .
T h e m o tio n w a s a g r e e d to , a n d t h e S e n a t e p r o c e e d e d to t h e
c o n s id e r a tio n o f e x e c u t iv e b u s in e s s . A f t e r fiv e m in u t e s s p e n t
in e x e c u t iv e S e ss io n t h e d o o r s w e r e r e o p e n e d .
M r. K E R N . I m o v e t h a t w h e n t h e S e n a t e a d j o u r n s to -d a y
i t a d jo u r n t o m e e t a t 10 o ’c lo c k a . m . to -m o r r o w .
T h e m o tio n w a s a g r e e d to.
M r. B A C O N . I m o v e t h a t t h e S e n a t e a d jo u r n .
T h e m o tio n w a s a g r e e d t o ; a n d ( a t 1 0 o ’c lo c k a n d 5 5 m in u t e s
p . m .) t h e S e n a t e a d jo u r n e d u n t il to -m o r r o w , T h u r s d a y , D e ­
cem b er. 4 , 1913, a t 10 o ’c lo c k a . m .

N O M IN A T IO N S .
E x e c u t i v e n o m in a tio n s r e c e iv e d b y th e S e n a te D e c e m b e r 3, 1 9 1 3 .

A m bassador .
H e n r y M . P in d e ll, o f Illin o is^ t o b e a m b a s s a d o r e x t r a o r d in a r y
a n d m in is t e r p le n ip o t e n t ia r y o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s o f A m e r ic a t o
R u s s ia , v ic e C u r t is G u ild , r e s ig n e d .

M in is t e r s .
B r a n d W h itlo c k , o f O h io , to b e e n v o y e x t r a o r d in a r y a n d m in ­
i s t e r p l e n ip o t e n t ia r y o f t h e U n ite d ; S t a t e s o f A m e r ic a t o B e l ­
g iu m , v ic e T h e o d o r e M a r b u r g , r e s ig n e d .
G e o r g e F r e d W illia m s , o f M a s s a c h u s e t t s , t o b e e n v o y e x t r a o r ­
d in a r y a n d m in is t e r p le n ip o t e n t ia r y o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s o f
A m e r ic a t o G r e e c e a n d M o n te n e g r o , v ic e J a c o b G o u ld S c h u r m a n ,
r e s ig n e d .

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CURRENCY.

M r. O W E N .
M r. P r e s id e n t , i t i s w it h in a f e w m in u t e s o f
1 1 o ’c lo c k , a n d I s u p p o s e n o S e n a t o r i s r e a d y t o g o o n t o - n ig h t
w it h t h e d is c u s s io n o f t h e H e t c h H e t c h y b ill. I s h o u ld li k e t o
c a ll u p H o u s e b ill 7 8 3 7 , w it h a v i e w to m o v in g t h e p r in t in g o f
a n a m e n d m e n t o n p a g e 2 5 , lin e 1 3 , o f t h e a m e n d m e n t I h a v e
h e r e t o f o r e o ffe r e d a n d m o d ifie d .
M r. S M O O T . T h e r e i s n o n e c e s s it y o f c a llin g u p t h e b ill.
T h e S e n a to r c a n o ffe r i t a s a p r o p o s e d a m e n d m e n t to t h e b ill.
M r. O W E N . I w is h to h a v e i t p r in t e d s im p ly a s a n in s e r t .
I t i s n o t w o r t h t h e w h ile t o r e p r in t t h e b ill, I t a k e it. I t i s
l a s t a s h o r t a m e n d m e n t.
M r. S M O O T . T h e S e n a to r c a n s im p ly m a k e t h e r e q u e s t, th e n .
M r. O W E N . I a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t m y a m e n d m e n t
sh a l] b e c o n s id e r e d a p a r t o f t h e b ill w h e n i t c o m e s lip.
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R (M r . R o b inso n in t h e c h a i r ) .
T h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a a s k s u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t to m o d if y
h is o w n a m e n d m e n t. W it h o u t o b je c tio n , i t w i l l b e s o o r d e r e d .

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P h ilip p in e C o m m is s io n a n d s e c r e t a r y o f t h e in te r io r , v ic e D e a n
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F IE L D A R T I L L E R Y A R M .

F ir s t L ie u t . H e n r y S. K ilb o u r n e , jr ., F o u r t h F ie ld A r t ille r y ,
toE b e c a p t a in fr o m N o v e m b e r 2 2 , 1 9 1 3 , v i c e C a p t. W illia m I.
W e s te r v e lt, S-econd F ie ld A r t ille r y , d e t a ile d in t h e O r d n a n c e
D e p a r t m e n t o n t h a t d a te .
S e c o n d L ie u t . A lb e r t K . C . P a lm e r , S i x t h F ie ld A r t ille r y , t o
be; f ir s t lie u t e n a n t fr o m N o v e m b e r 22 , 1 9 1 3 , v ic e F ir s t L ie u t .
H e n r y S. K ilb o u r n e , jr ., F o u r t h F i e l d A r t ille r y , p r o m o te d .
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ARM .

/S e c o n d L ie u t . S e t h W . S c o fie ld , F i r s t I n f a n t r y , t o b e f ir s t
lie u t e n a n t fr o m N o v e m b e r 25, 1 9 1 3 , v i£ e F i r s t L ie u t . H u g h M .
K e lly , u n a s s ig n e d , w h o d ie d N o v e m b e r 2 4 , 1913.

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p o w e r a n d q u ic k e n e v e r y n o b le im p u ls e t h a t w e m a y k e e p s t e p
in t h e o n w a r d m a r c h o f p r o g r e s s t h a t o u r s o u ls m a y b e s a t is f ie d
a n d T h y d e m a n d s fu lf ille d . I n t h e C h r is t s p ir it. A m e n .
‘ T h e J o u r n a l o f t h e p r o c e e d in g s o f y e s t e r d a y w a s r e a d a n d
ap p roved .
CALENDAR WEDNESDAT.
T h e S P E A K E R . T h is i s C a le n d a r W e d n e s d a y , a n d t h e u n fin ­
is h e d b u s in e s s i s S e n a te j o i n t r e s o lu tio n N o . 5, p r o v id in g f o r t h e
a p p o in tm e n t o f a c o m m is s io n t o c o n s id e r t h e n e e d a n d r e p o r t a
p la n f o r n a t io n a l a id to v o c a t io n a l e d u c a tio n .
M r M A N N . M r. S p e a k e r , a p a r lia m e n t a r y in q u ir y .
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e g e n t le m a n w ill s t a t e it.
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The SPE A K ER
I t h a s b e e n d e c id e d b y S p e a k e r C a n n o n a n d
t h e p r e s e n t o c c u p a n t o f t h e c h a ir , b o th , t h a t w h e r e a b ill or
a n y t h i n 0' w a s u n fin is h e d o n C a le n d a r W e d n e s d a y t h a t on t h e
n e x t c a ll o f C a le n d a r W e d n e s d a y i t c a m e up a s u n fin is h e d
b u s in e s s .
M r M A N N . W ill t h e S p e a k e r p e r m it m e t o c a ll h i s a t t e n ­
t io n to t h e s it u a t io n , t h e n ? I f e a r s u c h a r u lin g m ig h t la n d u s
in c o n f u s io n h e r e a f t e r .
T h e r e w a s u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s fr o m
t h e C o m m itte e o n E d u c a tio n , a n d t h e c a ll o f t h e c o m m it t e e s
w a s p r o c e e d e d w it h . T h a t b ill c a m e u p a u t o m a t ic a lly a n d t h e
H o u s e w e n t in to t h e C o m m itte e o f t h e W h o le a u t o m a t ic a lly .
T h e r e u p o n , t h e g e n t le m a n in c h a r g e o f t h e b ill m o v e d t h a t t h e
c o m m it t e e r is e . T h e c o m m it t e e r o s e , a n d t h e S p e a k e r d ir e c t e d
t h a t t h e c a ll o f c o m m it t e e s p r o c e e d , .and t h e c a ll o f c o m m it t e e s
d id p r o c e e d . I a m n o t s u r e b u t t h e r e h a s b e e n a c a ll s in c e th e n .
I k n o w t h e r e w a s a f u r t h e r c a ll t h a t d a y .
T iie S P E A K E R . T h a t w a s t h e l a s t c a ll.
M r. M A N N . N o w , i f a c o m m it t e e d e c lin e s t o c a ll u p a b ill
w h e n i t i s r e a c h e d , w h ic h i s u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s , d o e s t h a t g iv e
p r io r r ig h t o v e r t h e o t h e r c o m m it t e e s ? T h e C h a ir w i l l s e e w h e r e
i t w ill la n d u s. S u p p o s e a c h a ir m a n o f a c o m m it t e e , w h e n t h e
c o m m it t e e s w e r e c a lle d , c a lle d u p a b ill a n d a s so o n a s t h e
H o u s e w e n t in to t h e C o m m itte e o f t h e W h o le m o v e d t h a t t h e
c o m m it t e e r is e a n d d e c lin e to f u r t h e r c a ll i t u p , a n d t h e n a n ­
o th e r c o m m itte e w a s c a lle d a n d t h e s a m e p r o c e d u r e w a s f o l ­
lo w e d . W e m ig h t h a v e a d o z e n b ills a s u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s o n
t h e c a le n d a r so t h a t w e n e v e r c o u ld p r o c e e d f u r t h e r w it h t h e
c o m m it t e e c a lls , so t h a t i t s e e m s t o m e t h a t w h e n a c o m m it t e e
d e c lin e s to p r o c e e d w it h i t s r ig h t a n d t h e C h a ir d ir e c t s t h a t t h e
c a ll o f c o m m it t e e s p r o c e e d a n d o th e r c o m m it t e e s w e r e c a lle d ,
t h a t c o m m it t e e lo s t t h e r ig h t to c a ll u p i t s -bill u n t il it w a s
r e a c h e d in o r d e r a g a in . T h e c a ll n o w r e s t s w it h t h e C o m m itte e
o n t h e J u d ic ia r y .
T h e S P E A K E R . W e ll, t h e C h a ir w i l l s t a t e ------ M r. F I T Z G E R A L D . W ill t h e g e n t le m a n y ie ld f o r a q u e s ­
t io n ?
M r. M A N N . C e r ta in ly .
M r. F I T Z G E R A L D . D o e s i t n o t m a k e c o n s id e r a b le d iff e r ­
e n c e t h a t n o o t h e r c o m m it t e e h a s b e e n c a lle d ?
M r. M A N N . B u t o th e r c o m m it t e e s w e r e c a lle d .
I b eg th e
g e n t le m a n ’s p a r d o n ; t h a t i s j u s t it, t h e c o m m it t e e c a ll w a s p r o ­
c e e d e d w it h a n d t h e c o m m it t e e s w e r e c a lle d a r o u n d .
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e C h a ir w ill s t a t e t h a t h e w a s u n f a ­
m ilia r w it h t h e f a c t s a b o u t t h is . I t h a p p e n e d to b e t h e o n ly
d a y t h e S p e a k e r w a s a b s e n t d u r in g t h a t e x t r a s e s s io n , a n d t h a t
w a s w h e n h e w a s s e n t, a lo n g w it h 14 o t h e r s , to g o t o t h e K n o x ­
v i l l e E x p o s itio n . T h e C h a ir w i l l s e e w hat t h e R ecord s h o w s :

The S p e a k e r pro tempore. On the last Calendar Wednesday th e House
bad under consideration Senate joint resolution No. 5. Under the rule
the House automatically resolves i t s # into Committee of the W hole
H o u s e on the state of the Union for the further consideration of said
re solution as the unfinished businestf on Calendar Wednesday, and the
gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. G a r r e t t ] will take the chair.
Now t h e r e is n o d i s p u t e b e t w e e n t h e C h a i r a n d t h e R ecord
a n d t h e g e n t l e m a n f r o m I l l i n o i s [ M r . M a n n ] so f a r .

Mr. F w ^ ^ t fD.GM ° r T s p e t t . the gentleman from Georgia
H ughes ] did not call his b iil up.

[Mr.

T h a t is , t h i s v o c a t io n a l e d u c a t io n b ill.

nro tempore. The understanding of the Chair is that
r nImi dnr Wednesday the House resolves itself into the
Commfttee oyf the WhMe House on the state of the Union for t h c Y ^
poY ” f considering unfinished business in order on Calendar Wednesday.
Mr. F it z g e r a l d . It does not, Mr. Speaker.
Mr FYzGBRMdD0eUnder the rule the committee must he called, and
rrho

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IUTho l m r t B ? o a tempore. The gentleman’s motion is n o t in order.
T h fC h ffr -hrids ^hat automatically the House resolves itsel mto C W
mittee of Ihe Whole House on the state of the union roi tile fuither
c o n sid e ra ilo n of S e M te joint
>.
____rcsohMion
3S01Ui:iOII No. v.
...
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Accord’'trgTy^the'"FIoiise resolved itself into Committee of the Whole
Ilouse on th<f state of the Union for the further consWeration of Senate
BUrU ro^nhition No 5 witli Mr. Oahbe i/i oi It-iuicbMx in ltic ciia^i.
Wbtfe House
H ouY on
3 miA r T u r e u w t i A House is in Committee of the Whole
th e s ta te o f th e Union ^ r the f u r th e r c o n sid e ra tio n of S en a te jo in t
re so lu tio n No. 5. w hich th e Clerk w ill le a d by title .
% o in teii^MutionS ( s ’. ' Y Res. 5) providing for the appointment of a
commission to consider the need and report a plan lor national aid to
V° Mr.^Hugn e of *Geo rgi a. Mr. Chairman, I move that the committee do
n °Th(»tSCHAiBMA'N. T h e g e n tle m an fro m G eorgia .[M r. H u g h e s ] moves
th a t th e com m ittee do now rise. T h e q u e stio n is on a g re ein g to th a t

m<The1question was taken, and the Chairman announced that the ayes
seemed to have it.
rnnn
Mr Mann . A division, Mr. Chairman.
„ „ „ „ or
The committee divided; and there were— ayes 119, nces 35.
Accordingly the committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore [Mr.
Sherlky having resumed the chair, Mr. Garrett of Tennessee, Chair!
m-n of the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union,
reported tliat that committee had had under consideration Senate joint

resolution Nb. 5, and had come to no conclusion thereon.
The Speaker pro tempore. The Clerk will proceed with die call of

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Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary f a u lt y .
r]’he S peaker pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
Mr. M ann. The call of committees having passed heyond the commit­
tee that called up that vocational educational bill, 1 suppose that is
aeTheUSPBAKBK
tempore8 T h^ C hair‘wlil rule on that matter when
it is presented, and would not care to express an opinion prior to that
“

tL Clerk proceeded with the call of committees.
The Committee on Appropriations was called
. .
Mr. G arrett of Tennessee. Mr. Speaker, I make the point of order
tH«f there is no quorum present.
Mr H u m ph r e y s of Mississippi. Will the g e n tle m a n w ith h o ld th a t for
a m om ent?
M r. G a r r e t t of Tennessee. I w ill.

S o t h e s t a t e m e n t o f t h e g e n t le m a n f r o m I l l i n o i s [M r . M a n n ]
a s to w h a t h a p p e n e d t h a t d a y i s c o r r e c t. T h e C h a ir w ill re­
p e a t t h a t h e w a s n o t h e r e a t t h a t tim e . I t s e e m s to t h e C hair
t h a t t h e C o m m itte e o n E d u c a t io n lo s t i t s f o o tin g .
M r. T O W N E R . A p a r lia m e n a r y in q u ir y , M r. S p e a k e r .
T h e S P E A K E R . T h e g e n t le m a n w i l l s t a t e it .
M r. T O W N E R . T h is b ill, I b e lie v e , i s o n t h e U n io n C alen ­
d a r , c a r r y in g a p p r o p r ia tio n . U p o n t h e c a ll o f t h e c o m m itte e s,
i f i t s h o u ld b e t h e r e g u la r o r d e r to -m o r r o w , w o u ld i t be the
u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s w h e n t h i s c o m m it t e e i s c a lle d , o r w ill th e
c o m m it t e e h a v e to w a i t u n t il t h e C a le n d a r W e d n e s d a y w h e n it
can be reached?
T h e S P E A K E R . T h a t i s j u s t e x a c t ly w h a t t h e C h a ir w a s
d e c id in g . H e h a d n o t q u ite fin is h e d . O n e c a n n o t c a ll up a
b ill o n t h e U n io n C a le n d a r o n t h e o r d in a r y c a ll o f c o m m itte e s
in t h e m o r n in g h o u r . Y o u c a n w a i t u n t il t h e c a ll i s e x h a u s te d
or a t t h e e n d o f GO m in u t e s a n d m a k e a m o tio n t o g o in to the
C o m m itte e o f t h e W h o le H o u s e o n t h e s t a t e o f t h e U n io n . T h a t
i s u n d e r t h e o r d in a r y c a ll o f c o m m it t e e s in w h a t i s c a lle d th e
m o r n in g h o u r .
M r. T O W N E R . T h e n t h e o n ly w a y in w h ic h t h i s w i l l b e un­
f in is h e d b u s in e s s w i l l b e t h a t i t w i l l b e u n f in is h e d o n t h e ca ll
o f c o m m it t e e s o n C a le n d a r W e d n e s d a y ?
V O C A TIO N A L E D U C A T IO N .
T h e S P E A K E R . O h , n o ; i t w o u ld n o t. I t m u s t b e ca lle d
Mr. HUGHES of Georgia rose.
Mr. F itzgerald . Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. u p d e n o v o .
M r. M A N N . M r. S p e a k e r , I d id n o t r a i s e t h e p o in t fo r th e
H u g h e s ] did n o t call up his bill.
I w i l l r e a d w h a t t h e S p e a k e r p ro te m p o r e s a id . T h e S p e a k e r p u r p o s e o f e n d e a v o r in g t o p r e v e n t t h e c o n s id e r a t io n o f th e bill.
T
h e S P E A K E R . T h e C h a ir u n d e r s t a n d s t h a t p e r f e c t ly well".
p r o te m p o r e w a s ------I f t h e g e n t le m a n f r o m G e o r g ia [M r. H u g h e s ] a t t h a t t im e h ad
M r. F I T Z G E R A L D . M r. S iieuley o f K e n t u c k y .




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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE.

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Tlie Tuolumne Meadows was pronounced several years before tills con* c
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Modesto, Gad., m e m b e r s , 1013.
J™vcrsy arose, by John Muir, io be the finest high-mountain meadow in Senator
W orks , W a s h i n g t o n , D. C . :
n
1?ri'a- Keitli, the artist, and Prof. Joseph Le Conte, both now dead,
We water users of Fail-view district tinanimou.sljPindorse views ex­
neid similar views, for I was in the Yosemite with all three and in the
pressed m telegrams front mass meeting at (CojHSa, December i . Wo
-tuolumne Meadows witii the two former.
water users of Fair view district appeal to ymi.To defeat Raker bill,
In the Tuolumne Meadows the tourist will find one first-class hotel, vv.iieh
would pauperise our valley and make o^Msert of our homes now
one lesser hotel, and several public camps. From these he will take depending
upon all the water of the Taolui
sole trip® to lesser camps, which will be within easy travel range of
5. Moodt, Chairman.
the average tourist and established at places of rare beauty, such as
R. Mottaibkj S ecreta ry.
hake Tiago, Lysle Canyon, etc. Saddle borses will take others to
mss-irequented camps a little farther away and at more beauty spots,
STO, Cal., D ecem ber 2, 1013.
f'or the more hardy but unequipped traveler there will be pack outfits
aaa § u^ e s to take them on camping trips to more distant grandeurs, The U n i t e d S t a t e s S e n a t e ,
Cure of lio n . John D. W orks,
inrjton, D. C .:
ana for the still hardier who have their own outfits there will always
More than 92 per cent of the
Within the park limits, more distant, a wild and magnificent
er users of Modesto-Turlock discountry full of superb scenery, such as. Mount Conncss, Return Creek, tricts- are opposed to the Raker
Any information to the contrary
Matterhorn Canyon and Peak, Lakes Rogers. Smedburg, Benson, etc., is absolutely false. If San
isco 1ms ever had water famine it
Regulation Peak, and others. From the Meadows the hardy will was due to her neglect to de
her present sources of supply. The
facts are she has water 1
ciinA>.Mounts Lysle, Dana, Gibbs, etc.
'years. If she wants additional water,
>, " nile standing on the peaks of several of our mountains, including send her where she can ge
>water, better water, for $20,000,000 to
Mount L.ysle, I have been told by foreigners who have climbed tbe $30(000,000 iess and
interfere with irrigation.
How in
God’s name can you. vot
AIPS that they found nothing there to surpass the views before us.
from us our limited amount of water
from the Meadows the traveler will pass down through the Grand and bring ruin and
tion to 300,000 acres of the finest lands
'-anyon of the Tuolumne, with its lofty walls rising in places higher in California, owned
housands of the best home builders in the
,£ atl those of the Grand Canyon of Arizona: through Muir Gorge, world that have thej
invested in these little homes? Gan it be
pose upon us, tillers of the soil, such an unjust
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alul the Little Heteh Iletchy, into the Heteh Hetchy possible that you wi
vauey.; and on the way the* hardy will stop to climb Rancherero Peak, burden in order tcy?
to San Francisco a power proposition worth,
riom which one of the finest views of the Sierra is had. The trip estimated by thoimfflpn engineers, $45,000,000 V We pray you to deliver
n the Grand Canyon w ill be about 20 miles, and through a most us from this gccjSKcnemy,
rugged and precipitous gorge. A road or trail here will cost a lot of
L evi Wtmt leudeck,
money, but here is the place to spend it. The relative position of the
P residen t M odesto W a ter Users’ A ssocia tion .
iosemite Valley, Tuolumne Meadows, and the Iletch Iletchy form a
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Long before this controversy wa« started Mr. Keith, the artist, pro­ te le g r a m sy f(S l le t t e r s in t h e fo r m o f r e s o lu tio n s b o th f o r a n d
nounced the bed of the ILetch Hetchy more beautiful than that of the a g a in s t tsjils. p r o p o sitio n , b u t g e n e r a lly a g a in s t it . I h a v e n o t
Yosemite. John Muir says it contains many more species and more
magnificent species of trees than the’.Yosemite. more beautiful mead- p r e s e n tg ir th e m to t h e S e n a te b e c a u s e I am c o n v in c e d t h a t t h e s e
°'ve< and a greater variety of wild /lowers. The mosquitoes can be m a tteg S p u n le s s p r in te d in t h e itE coun; a r e retid ’ b y n o b o d y , a n d
eradicated, and according, to my convocation with Mr. Lippincott,
assistant chief engineer of the Los AngeloAAqueduct, a little dynamite, t h e r f r e - in te n d e d la r g e ly , I u n d e r s ta n d , f o r m y o w n b e n e fit.
enlarging the opening at the proposed dam SUe, will enable the water to Fo«jpniat r e a s o n I h a v e n o t p r e s e n te d th e m to t h e S e n a te .
Pass out more rapidly and do away with ffce marsh that covers the
P E T I T I O N S A N D M E A IO B IA L S .
lower part of the Iletch Hetchy in the spring, fe
The tourist will find hero two first-class mofifttain hotels and camps,
h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T p r e s e n te d p e t itio n s o f L o c a l C o u n c il
as in the Yosemite. The hardy will take snlte'b camping trips to
615, K n ig h ts o f C o lu m b u s, o f S a n F r a n c is c o : o f t h e S c a n d iLakes Vernon. Tilden, and surrounding country, ‘Tjho less liardy will
f fia v ia n C iv ic L e a g u e , o f S a n F r a n c is c o ; a n d o f t h e M u n ic ip a l
go to Tiltil Valley and near points.
Tills completes the “ grand tour of the park.” I %ve spent 30 dai® ■ 'O w nership L e a g u e , o f A la m e d a , a ll in t h e S t a t e o f C a lif o r n ia ,
each of five summers in the High Sierra, and saw myflirst rain on #
p r a y in g f o r t h e p a s s a g e o f th e s o -c a lle d H e t e h H e t c h y b ill,
fourth trip. It lasted from 3 o’clock in the afternooH.jnntil 9 o’lJBpk
w h ic h w e r e o r d e r e d to lie o n t h e ta b le .
that night. On the fifth trip i «aw one rainy day aiuDjuight.
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Now, considering tlie superb sights to be seen, the var&ify of Qgjfvol,
M r. N E L S O N p r e s e n te d a p e t itio n o f t h e M in n e s o ta H is t o r ic a l
the possibilities for side trips, and the climatic contiittofti wl
S o c ie ty , p r a y in g t h a t a n a p p r o p r ia tio n b e m a d e fo r t h e e r e c tio n
tourist can be almost sure- of perfect weather, I believe thiaAv'i
o f a m o n u m e n t to th e m e m o r y o f W illia m S. C ox, U n ite d S t a t e s
Hi Srr W P on
fucc of the globe. The growth of the pofgj
N a v y , w h ic h w a s r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e on t h e L ib r a r y .
tne united States, the ease and cheapness of travel, and IT
fe'ooe .trotters will bring large numbers to the park. I have
M r. T H O M P S O N p r e s e n te d p e t itio n s o f s u n d r y c it iz e n s o f
tbn iu 50 t0 100 years there will be 50,000 to 75,000 1
T o p e k a . W a ld o , a n d O s a w a to m ie , a ll in t h e S ta t e o f K a n s a s ,
ir.y, grand tour each year. And the winter sports, as i
p r a y in g f o r t h e e a r ly p a s s a g e o f t lie s o -c a lle d G la ss -O w e n
VVAr cu" ov|t no 3Hla-ll number.
i tMr. Freeman (city’s brief, p. 152) anticipates only
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c u r r e n c y b ill, w h ic h w e r e o r d e r e d to lie on th e ta b le .
year will vfl.
tba6m " a year, and (p. 60) “ 20 to 30 nature lovers ’
M r. F L E T C H E R .
I p r e s e n t r e s o lu tio n s a d o p te d b y t b e
that, wouli
Tuolumne watershed. If the Government anticit
Sring lie expects- ^ C entral T r a d e s a n d L a b o r C o u n c il o f J a c k s o n v ille , F la ., f a v o r ;!‘e Park have been created? Mr. Fisher said at the
there will be 20,000 in the Heteh Iletchy in 20 yt
Whom do' you ffog t h e p a s s a g e o f tlie H e t e h H e t c h y b ill. I s u g g e s t t h a t t h e
think is right?
„. th the face of our very numerous demands th&jSnly place that the r e s o lu tio n s n e e d n o t b e rea d , b u t I d e s ir e t o p r e s e n t th e m in t h e
has ever pointed out ns a possible camp grojpd to take the place n a n l t e o f a p e titio n .
irf tue Iletch Hetchy is a little spot which thejvpny will not hold tbe
IC E P R E S I D E N T . T h e r e s o lu tio n s w i l l He o n t lie t a b le .
Present Sierra Club party— about 200. (See eiJjSfh brief, p. 00.) Maj.
M r . la f A lv D E G E B ;
I p r e s e n t a m e m o r ia l o f th e S t a t e s o f
Jenson (recently tbe Government’s guardian dj'f the park) said that
Pgjhc would accommodate 20 to 30 campers.Jfnit in tbe early spring C o n n e c n lto t a n d M a s s a c h u s e tt s , r e q u e s tin g a p p r o v a l b y ( h e
umy. for the water, is soon gone. Our quest uwi now is, after 50 to 100 C o n g r e s s^ ltf t h e b o u n d a r ie s e s ta b lis h e d b y t lie a g r e e m e n t b e ­
‘rr''ars, how and to what extent will the paw, be used if the city gets
tw e e n t h e s f a S t a t e s . I a s k t b a t t h e m e m o r ia l b e p r in te d in th e
Heteh Hetchy ?
W
. w h e n the city struggles to answer tha#-1 would request that you R ecord a n d % u e r r e d t o t h e C o m m itte e o n t h e J u d ic ia r y .
hear the above in mind, and look careful 1^1 o see if the answers really
T h e r e beingmp objection, the memorial was referred to the
hh answer, ‘ The sanitary question is h i# a n d important in that conJudiciary and ordered to. be printed in the
thollon- Mr. Freeman thinks they canJBunp above the reservoir and Committee on
f “S1 °ne park policeman will suffice fop-the Iletch Hetchy region— be R ecord, as foil of*
J llla t° consider the rest of the 459 {Square miles. (See city’s brief, To th e S en ate and fflj&sc o f R ep resen ta tives of th e United S ta tes in
,1 ™ ') Bear in mind that the cityJalways, when talking sanitation,
Congress assem bled:
«asumes tbat tbe uso o f the wntershod'my campers will never be greater
The memorial of the ’fltojtea of Massachusetts and Connecticut rep­
i .'f.11, it is now, before the park is made accessible. Mr. Freeman says
resents
that they have ffeeed upon a boundary line between said
liari
brief, p. 343) that lie had clprge of a water supply on which lie
i ’ two concentration camps of Jpmhermcn, and that despite all his States, subject to its l-atrmwtion by the Congress, which boundary
line
is
shown
on duplicate nfljjs, one copy of which has been deposited
do 1 ‘.‘tforts he could not properlypprotect the water. What will they with the secretary
of the Stme of Massachusetts, and another copy
si-o, ,en a changing, shifting, «liousands camp on their own park thereof
in
the
library of the wkate of Connecticut, and that an act
jSJJta ranging over 459 squar#m iles?
has been passed by each State tmexpress and confirm said agreement,
win0 / 011’ as one of the guardiafis of our greatest national park, which and
that a copy of the act passeWdiy the State of Massachusetts has
a ' v } believe, become the wombs greatest park, I offer the foregoing
been sent to and received by tlieTfetate of Connecticut, and a conv
i t « » asi{ you to carefully scrutinize the city’s answer and beware of
c
of the said act o f the State of nfemiectlcut has- been sent to and
‘\l;Jtort to sidetrack this important feature of the controversy.
received by the State of MassachinseMB
With kindest regards, I i$h,
Said act of Massachusetts is. entlt&d “An act to establish the
Very sincerely, yoursfc
Clay I3. Gooding,
boundary lino between the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the
3333 P era lta S treet, Oakland, Cal.
State
of Connecticut,” and was appr<3%d March 19, 1908; and
j)QP;i S.— It is the ciimato of California that renders possible what jvill said act
of Connecticut is entitled “An %! establishing tlie bound­
nnJ,hc
most unique feature of the park; that is, the camping trips, ary line between Connecticut and Massachusetts,” and was approved
Pa:
Particularly
in the upper portion and radiating from many points June 6, 1913, and is printed in the special 11% and resolutions of the
€
>r. '*«iur
aj°ng
a]ong the «: grand tour.'
General Assembly of the State of C o n n e c t i o n i t s January session,
1913, on page 1003. Each of said acts coniaiiMha full description of
c,
Whiteibb, C a l ., D ecem ber 1, 191$.
said boundary line.
^
senator J ohn D. Works,
Your memorialists therefore hereby request (his approval by the
Senate Chamber, W a sh ington, D. C.:
Congress of the United States of the boundaries established as hereto­
o ift1 a meeting of the Board of Trade and the Commercial Club of the fore stated.
„
„
, '
„
In witness whereof, on. tins 22d day of November, TSlL>, the under­
aal* °* Whittier resolutions were adopted opposing the Raker bill and
(}n,,.a4 you to work and vote against same. On report of competent signed subscribe hereto as governors of said States, regBfritlvftlv.
s.A, eers it has been shown that there are other sources from which
E ugene n . F o s s ,
t0 1A ran cisco may obtain abundant supply of water without damage
G overn or of Mas&fajMeetta.
atfem!!'it?ry set apart as national park. Your efforts opposing this
Si .meon'E. Baldwin ,’
mpi to break up our national reserves will be appreciated.
G overnor o f ComJSUdcut.
R . B. K e n n e d y ,
Transmitted to the Vice President of the United States,, PresSfent of
G e g k g e L . H a zz a r d ,
the Senate of the United States.
C om m ittee.




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k ules.

M r. W IL L IA M S , fr o m
th e C o m m it te e _ o n R u le s , t o w h ic h
w u s r e fe r r e d S e n a te r e s o lu tio n 84, p r o v id in g t h a t a n y S e n a to i
u p o n h is o w n r e q u e s t m a y b e r e c o r d e d a n d c o u n t e d ^
presen
in o r d e r t o c o n s t i t u t e a q u o r u m , s u b m i t t e d b y W m ^ l f 0 m M a y
15, 191 3, r e p o r t e d it w it h a n a m e n d m e n t a n d s u b m it te d a r e p o i t
(N o . 1 3 4 )

th e re o n .
ADDKKSS B Y F . S . W A S H B U R N

( S . DOC. N O . 2 5 i ) .

M r. F L E T C H E R .
O n N o v e m b e r 20 th e S e n a to r fr o m T e n ­
n e s s e e [ M r . L e a ] a s k e d u n a n i m o u s c o n s e n t t o h a v e P a n t e d ias
a S e n a te d o c u m e n t a n a d d r e s s d e liv e r e d b y M r F . S. W a s h b u r n ,
o f N a s h v i l l e , T e n n ., b e f o r e t h e N a t i o n a l C o n s e r v a t i o n C o n ­
g r e s s , N o v e m b e r 18, 191 3, a n d it w a n r e fe r r e d to th e C o m m itte e
o n P r in t in g f o r a c tio n .
I a m a u th o r iz e d b y th e C o m m itte e on
P r i n t in g to r e p o r t f a v o r a b l y t h e p a p e r s u b m it t e d b y t h e S e n ­
a to r fro m T en n essee, a n d I m o v e th a t a n o rd e r b e e n te re d th a t
it b e p r in t e d a s a p u b lic d o c u m e n t.
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
W ith o u t o b je c tio n , i t is so o r d e r e d .

D

ecem ber

ator, he would prefen to refer this document for printing to
th e
Committee on Printinc.
1MV11r-.. jlnjdbliovaw
N E L S O N ..
JM«ri. P r e s id e n t , I r e p e a t, i t r e la t e s to t h e jni
p r o v e m e n t o f t h e C o lu m b ia R iv e r , a n d i t o u g h t to b e r e fe r r e d
to t h e C o m m itte e o n C o m m e r c e . I f t h a t c o m m it t e e d e e m i t Uf
s u ffic ie n t im p o r ta n c e , t h e y c a n h a v e i t p r in t e d f o r t h e ir use
T h e C o m m itte e o n C o m m e r c e h a s j u r is d ic t io n o v e r a l l m a tte r s
r e la t in g to r iv e r s a n d h a r b o r s , a n d t h e r e i s w h e r e t h i s m a tte r
p r o p e r ly b e lo n g s .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e p a p e r w i l l b e r e f e r r e d , th e n , to
t h e C o m m itte e o n C o m m e r c e .
H O U S E B IL L R E FER R ED .

PI R 7 1 3 8 A n a c t to p r o v id e f o r t h e r a i s in g o f t h e v o lu n te e r
f o r c e s o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s in t im e o f a c t u a l o r t h r e a te n e d war
w a s r e a d t w i c e b y i t s t i t l e a n d r e i e i r e d to t h e C o m m itte e on
M ilit a r y A f fa ir s .
H O U R OF D A IL Y M E E T IN G .

T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir l a y s b e f o r e t h e S e n a te
a r e s o lu tio n c o m in g o v e r fr o m a p r e v io u s d a y , w h ic h w ill be

BILLS INTRODUCED.
R i l ls w e r e in t r o d u c e d , r e a d t h e fir s t t im e , a n d , b y u n a n im o u s
c o n s e n t , t h e s e c o n d t im e , a n d r e f e r r e d a s f o l l o w s :
B y M r. N E L S O N :./
A b ill ( S . 3 5 4 6 ) t o e x t e n d t h e t im e f o r c o n s t r u c t i n g a d a m b y
R a i n y R i v e r I m p r o v e m e n t C o . a c r o s s t h e o u t l e t o f N a m a lc a n
L a k e a t K e t t le F a lls , in S t. L o u is C o u n t y , M in n .; t o th e C o m ­
m itte e o n C o m m e r c e .
B y M r . S I J E P P A R D ( f o r M r . Cu lb er so n ) :
A b i l l ( S .* 3 5 4 7 ) f o r t h e r e l i e f o f O s c a r C . G u e s s a z ; t o t h e
C o m m it te e o n C la im s .
B y M r .' S T E R L I N G ( f o r M r . C r a w fo r d ) :
A b ill ( S . 3 5 4 8 ) g r a n t i n g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s i o n t o S a m u e l E .
H a ig h t (w it h a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) ; to th e C o m m itte e on
p e n s io n s .

f

M
V
3 5 4 9 ) a u t h o r iz in g th e P r e s id e n t to n o m in a te a n d ,
b y a n d w it h th e a d v ic e a n d c o n s e n t o f th e S e n a te , a p p o in t
E i s w o r t l i W i ls o n , a fir s t lie u t e n a n t in t h e M e d ic a l R e s e r v e C o r p s
o f th e U n it e d S ta te s A r m y , a fir s t lie u t e n a n t in th e M e d ic a l
C o r p s o n t h e r e t ir e d lis t , a n d i n c r e a s in g t h e r e t ir e d l is t b y o n e
f o r th e p u r p o s e s o f t h is a c t ; to t h e C o m m itte e o n M ilit a r y
A ffa ir s .
By M r . B R A N D E G E E :
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A b ill ( S. 3 5 5 0 ) r a t ify in g th e e s ta b lis h m e n t o f th e b o u n d a r y
l in e b e t w e e n t lie S t a t e s o f C o n n e c t i c u t a n d M a s s a c h u s e t t s ; t o
th e C o m m itte e o n th e J u d ic ia r y .
IM P R O V E M E N T S i n

THE

H A R B O R OF LIV ER PO O L.

M r LANE.
M r. P r e s id e n t, I h a v e a r e p o r t h e re w h ic h I h a v e
s e c u r e d fr o m th e S ta te D e p a rtm e n t.
I t r e la te s t o th e im p r o v e m e a t s i n t li e h a r b o r o f L i v e r p o o l , s h o w i n g t h e a m o u n t o f e x ­
p e n d it u r e s t h a t h a v e b e e n m a d e t h e r e f o r d r e d g in g a n d t o r
d ock pu rposes.
I t w o u ld b e u s e fu l i f p r in t e d a s a p u b lic d o c u ­
m e n t w it h o u t a n y o f tlie illu s t r a t io n s w h ic h a c c o m p a n y it.
I
req u est th a t th a t m a y b e done.
M r. S M O O T . Z I d id n o t h e a r th e r e q u e s t o f th e S e n a to r.
Mr LANE.
I r e q u e s t to h a v e p u b lis h e d q u it e a lo t o f s t a ­
t is t ic s r e la tin g t o t lie im p r o v e m e n t o f th e M e r s e y R i v e r a n d
L i v e r p o o l H a r b o r f o r t lie i n f o r m a t i o n o f t lie p e o p l e o f th e
P a c ific c o a s t w h o a r e fu g a g e d in s im ila r w o r k .
M r SM OOT.
T h e r e a r e c e r ta in illu s t r a t io n s ?
M r! L A N E .
T h e r e a r e illu s t r a t io n s , b u t I d o n o t a s k to h a v e
th e m p r in te d .
M r. N E L S O N .

W ill t h e ‘S e n a to r fr o m

a m om en t?
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .

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t o t lie S e n a t o r f r o m M in n e s o t a ?
M r. L A N E .
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M r. N E L S O N .
I s u g g e s t t h a t in a s m u c h a s th e p a p e r d e s ir e d
p r in t e d b y th e S e n a to r f r o m O r e g o n r e la te s to t h e im p r o v e m e n t
o f th e C o lu m b ia R iv e r it o u g h t t o b o r e fe r r e d to th e C o m m itte e
o n C o m m e rce , w h ic h h a s ju r is d ic t io n o f th e r iv e r a n d h a r b o r
b ill.
T lie c o m m it t e e c a n th e n o r d e r it p r in te d , i f it fe e ls so
d is p o s e d .
In m y o p in io n th a t w o u ld b e th e b e s t m e th o d o f
proced u re.
, „
,,
M r. L A N E .
I w o u ld h a v e n o o b je c t io n to t h a t e x c e p t f o r th e
f a c t th a t I a m b e in g r e q u e s te d to m a k e la r g e n u m b e r s o f c o p ie s
o f th is r e p o r t.
M r. S M O O T .
T lie m e t h o d o f d is p o s in g o f t in s m a t t e r a s
•m " c o s t e d b v t h e S e n a t o r f r o m M i n n e s o t a [ M r . N e l s o n ] w i l l ,
I th in k , m e e t t h a t c o n d it io n .
'
M r. L A N E .
T h a t is s a t i s f a c t o r y t o m e i f th e c o m m it t e e w il l
b e p r o m p t in t h e ir a c t io n .
,
.
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
T h e C h a ir w o u ld s u g g e s t t o th e
S e n a to i* f r o m M in n e s o t a t h a t , i f e n t i r e l y a g r e e a b l e t o t h e S e n ­




T h e S e c r e t a r y r e a d S e n a t e r e s o lu t io n 2 2 5 , s u b m itt e d b y Mr.
K ern on t h e 1 s t in s t a n t , a s f o l lo w s :
R eso lv ed , That the hour of daily meeting of ‘.be Senate be 10 o’clock
q m and that the Senate shall on each day at 6 o clock p. m, take .,
recess until 8 o’clock p. m. and adjourn at 11 o clock p. m., until other*
wise ordered.

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in g t h e 2 4 h o u r s o f t lie d a y . I s a y t h i s s e r io u s ly , b e c a u s e , if r'
u n d e r s t a n d t lie s it u a t io n c o r r e c tly , t h e r e i s to b e n o r e a l d eb a te
u i)o n t lie b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y b ill. T h a t d e b a te h a s a lr e a d y
t a k e n p la c e , t h e b ill h a s b e e n c o n s id e r e d e ls e w h e r e ; it lia s been
p a s s e d e ls e w h e r e .
N e it h e r a m I c r it ic iz in g t h e p r o v is io n s of
t h e b ill. I a m n o t r e a d y to s a y t h a t , a s b e t w e e n t lie b ill re­
p o r t e d b y t h e d i s t in g u is h e d S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a [Mr.
O w en ] a n d t h e e x i s t i n g la w , I w o u ld n o t v o t e t o r t h e ch a n g e
w liicjti h a s b e e n p r o p o se d . M y p r o t e s t i s a g a i n s t t h e c a u cu s
s y s t e m , a n d I in t e n d to r e c o r d i t n o w , a s I h a v e r e c o r d e d tt
T h e r e a l l e g is la t io n o f t h i s b o d y i s n o w t a k in g p la c e in a
D e m o c r a t ic c a u c u s . I t h in k a d e b a te u p o n t i n s m e a s u r e i s a
p u r e f a r c e , a n d I h e s i t a t e m y s e lf t o p a r t ic ip a t e in it. j flo
n o t li k e to g i v e it , b e f o r e t h e c o u n tr y , t h e c o lo r o f a ctu al
d e lib e r a t io n , w h e n w e a ll k n o w t h a t t h e p e r io d .of d e lib e r a tio n
lia s p a s s e d . W it h t h e e x c e p t io n , a s w e a r e informed by th

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a n o p e n m in d in th e D e m o c r a t i c m a j o r i t y ; t h e r e is s i n g l e S e n a t o r t h e r e w h o w o u l d v o t e t o a m e n d t h i s b i l l i n ;U1
r e s p e c t u p o n t h e f l o o r o f t h e S e n a t e w i t h o u t r e f e r r i n g th e
a m e n d m e n t to th e c a u c u s o f th e p a rty .
I h a v e t h e h i g h e s t r e g a r d f o r t h e m e n w h o m a k e u p tlie
D e m o c r a t i c m a j o r i t y , b u t I b e l ie v e in m y h e a r t t h a t t h e sy ste m
w h i c h t h e s e m e n h a v e a d o p t e d i s w r o n g ; I b e l i e v e i t is a
m e n a c e t o t h e i n s t i t u t i o n s o f o u r c o u n t r y ; I b e lie v e * i t i s o p .
p o s e d t o r e p r e s e n t a t iv e g o v e r n m e n t ..
I c a n h a r d l y i m a g i n e lio w
a n y m e m b e r o f th e m a jo r it y w h o fa v o r s th e e x te n s io n o f popu ­
la r g o v e r n m e n t, th r o u g h th e m e d iu m o f p r im a r ie s o r th rou g h
p r o c e d u r e in te n d e d to ta k e th e r e a l s e n tim e n t o f th e ra n k and
file o f t h e p e o p le , s h o u l d y e t f a v o r l e g i s l a t i o n b y c a u c u s .
U n t il
t h e s y s t e m i s c h a n g e d d e b a t e u p o n a n y b ill t h a t lia s b e e n d e­
c r e e d b y th e c a u c u s is a s h a m , a n d I d o n o t o b je c t , w h e n on ce
w e p a s s t h e p o in t o f t h e c a u c u s , to t h e c lo s in g o f d e b a te in any
w a y th a t c a n h e a d o p te d u n d e r th e r u le s o f th e S e n a te .
M y f r i e n d f r o m N e w Y o r k [ M r . R oo t ] s p o k e t h e o t h e r d a y
w it h r e g a r d to th e r ig h t s o f th e m in o r it y .
I w ill n o t v en tu re
to d iffe r fr o m h im w it h r e s p e c t to th e h ig h n e c e s s it y o f p re­
s e r v in g th e o p p o r t u n it y o f th e m in o r it y in d e b a te , b u t th e a ctu a l
in v a s io n o f th e r ig h t s o f th e m in o r it y d o e s n o t o c c u r th ro u g h
th e a d o p tio n o f th is r e s o lu tio n .
T h e a c t u a l o v e r t h r o w o f th e
r ig h t s o f t h e m in o r it y h a s a lr e a d y t a k e n p l a c e ; i t o c c u r re d
w h e n t h e D e m o c r a t i c c a u c u s c o n s i d e r e d t h i s b i l l a n d c a m e in t o
th e C h a m b e r u n d e r s o m e k in d o f o b lig a t io n t o s u p p o r t its p ro­
v is io n s .
I t s e e m s t o m e d a n g e r o u s ly n e a r a c o n s p i r a c y a g a in s t
th e r ig h t s o f a ll th e p e o p le .
.
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,
S u p p o s e t h a t I n a g r e a t c o r p o r a t i o n in w h ic h t h e s t o c k h o ld in g
in t e r e s t is w id e ly d iffu s e d s o m e g r e a t p r o p o s a l w a s a b o u t to be
la id b e f o r e t h e d i r e c t o r s o f t h a t c o r p o r a t io n t o b e a d o p te d or
r e j e c t e d f o r t h e w e l f a r e o f t h o s e w h o m i g h t b e i n t e r e s t e d i n it,
a n d s u p p o s e t h a t i t w e r e p r o p e r t o s u b m i t i n f o r m a t i o n a n d to
h a v e d is c u s s io n u p o n th e p r o p o s a l, a n d th e n t h a t a m a jo r it y
o f t h e d i r e c t o r s o f t h e c o r p o r a t i o n s h o u l d c o m e t o g e t h e r in
s e c r e t c o n c la v e a n d a g r e e w it h r e s p e c t t o t h e c o u r s e t o b e pu r-

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i t o u g h t n o t to b e p e r fo r m e d b y t h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d
S ta t e s . T h e S e n a to r fr o m I l l i n o i s s e e m s to t h in k t h a t w h e n t h e
D e m o c r a t ic P a r t y p le d g e s i t s e l f to t h e p e o p le t h a t c e r t a in la w s
s h a ll b e p a s s e d i t i s f o r t h e P r e s id e n t to p a s s t h o s e l a w s or
s a y w h a t l a w s a r e in c o n f o r m it y w it h t h e p le d g e o f t h e p la t ­
fo r m . I s h o u ld lik e t o l i f t u p a l i t t l e t h e d ig n it y o f t h e C o n ­
g r e s s o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s , a s I s o u g h t to d o in u r g in g t h a t
w h e n y o u w h o c o m p o s e t h e p a r ty p r o m is e t h e p e o p le o f th e
U n ite d S t a l e s t h a t a t h in g s h a ll b e d o n e i t i s f o r y o u to s e e
t h a t it i s d o n e , a n d it i s f o r y o u to d e t e r m in e h o w it s h a ll b e
d o n e. I f t h i s b e n o t tr u e , t h e n I h a v e m is c o n c e iv e d t h e i n s t i t u ­
t io n s "of m y c o u n tr y .
M r. N O R R I S o b ta in e d t h e floor.
• - M r. L E W I S a n d M r. O W E N a d d r e s s e d t h e C h a ir .
T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m I llin o is ?
M r. N O R R I S . I w i l l y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m I l lin o is o r I
w ill y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a i f t h e y d e s ir e to s p e a k
n o w . I w ill y ie ld t h e flo o r a n d s p e a k a f t e r t h e y h a v e fin is h e d .
* M r. O W E N . I w i l l y ie ld to th e S e n a to r fr o m I llin o is .
M r. L E W I S . M r. P r e s id e n t , I h a v e b u t o n e o b s e r v a tio n ,
w h ic h I a m s u r e w i l l n o t e x c e e d a m o m e n t, a s t h e S e n a to r
fr o m O k la h o m a , I th in k , d e s ir e s t o a d d r e s s h im s e lf to t h e
m a t e r ia lit y o f t h e b ill. I t i s t h i s : I t m a y b e, a s t h e a b le S e n ­
a to r fr o m I o w a s a id , t h a t in t h e e a r ly p a r t o f h is e x p e r ie n c e a s
g o v e r n o r t h a t o n e in s t a n c e w h e r e h e r e f u s e d to e n te r t h e c a u c u s
w a s a m a t t e r o f t h e liq u o r tr a ffic . O f t h a t I a m n o t a b le to
d is p u te , b u t I a ls o c a ll h i s a t t e n t io n to t h e o t h e r I h a v e r e fe r r e d
to . w h ic h h e d o e s n o t d is p u t e . T h e S e n a to r u r g e s t h a t t h e
C o n g r e s s s h a ll b e b r o u g h t to a h ig h le v e l, a n d w h a t s a y s t h e
a b le S e n a to r a s h i s t e s t ? H e s a y s t h a t w h e n w e , t h e D e m o c r a ts ,
p u t in to t h e p la tf o r m a p o lic y i t i s f o r u s to c a r r y i t o u t r ig h t ­
e o u s ly . I s a y h e i s c o r r e c t. Y e t w h e n w e m e e t in a n o r d in a r y
c o n f e r e n c e , w h ic h h e d e s ig n a t e s a c a u c u s , f o r t h e p u r p o s e o f
c a r r y in g t h a t o u t h e c o n d e m n s u s a n d h o ld s u s u p to t h e c o u n ­
t r y a s a n e x a m p le o f t h e d e s t r u c t io n o f f r e e in s t it u t io n s .
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t h in g to b e d e r id e d b y h is e lo q u e n c e a n d c o n d e m n e d b y t h e
in t e llig e n c e o f A m e r ic a .
S a y s h e n o w t h a t i t i s f o r u s t o c a r r y o u r p o lic y o u t, a n d n o t
th e P r e s id e n t . T h a t is t r u e ; b u t I c a ll u p o n t h e a b le S e n a to r
to n o te t h a t in e v e r y in s t a n c e w h e r e t h e P r e s id e n t h a s s o u g h t
to c o o p e r a te a n d w h e r e w e h a v e s o u g h t to e x e c u t e w e h a v e
m e t t h a t s e n t im e n t o f o p p o s it io n a n d o b s tr u c tio n o f t b e d i s ­
t in g u is h e d S e n a to r . I n s t e a d o f d is c lo s in g t h a t h e r e a lly b e ­
lie v e s i t to b e t h e r ig h t o f t h e c o u n tr y t h a t i t s r e p r e s e n t a t iv e s
s h o u ld c a r r y o u t t h e p le d g e d p o lic ie s , h e b u s ie s h im s e lf , w it h
b i s s p le n d id a b ilit y , to d e f e a t th e m . I f h e b e lie v e s w h a t h e s a y s
a s h is p o lit ic a l c r e e d , I a m u n a b le to u n d e r s t a n d t h e c o n s is t e n c y
ox1 j u s t ic e o f h i s c o u r s e a n d m u s t c o m m e n d i t to h i s o w n c o n ­
s c ie n c e to fin d a d e f e n s e f o r s u c h a n a t t it u d e . I c a n n o t ------ M r. C U M M I N S . H o w h a v e ^ o b s t r u c t e d t h e p o lic y e s t a b lis h e d
b y t h e D e m o c r a t ic c a u c u s ? I h a v e a lr e a d y s a id t h a t I t h in k in
h a r m o n y w it h t h e s y s t e m t h a t h a s b e e n a d o p te d w e o u g h t to
h a v e a v o t e w it h o u t a n y d e b a te .
M r. L E W I S . I a n s w e r t h e S e n a to r . T h e S e n a to r r e p r e s e n t s
a. g r e a t s o v e r e ig n S ta t e . H e h a s a p o te n t v o ic e in t h is b o d y.
Y et, w h e n t h e D e m o c r a c y m o v e d to c a r r y o u t t h e p o p u la r w i l l on
tb e t a r if f b ill, th e n , a g a in , o n t h e c u r r e n c y b ill, a n d e x e c u t e
" 'h a t h e s a y s w a s t h e o b lig a tio n o f o u r p a r t y t o c a r r y o u t,
t h e n c o m e s t h e v o ic e o f t h i s d is t in g u is h e d S e n a to r , w it h a l l i t s
In flu e n c e , i n v it in g o p p o s it io n fr o m t h e p u b lic o n t b e g r o u n d
t h a t s o m e t h in g w r o n g i s b e in g d o n e in t h e S e n a te , s o m e t h in g
d e s t r u c t iv e in a u g u r a t e d b y t lie D e m o c r a t s ; a n d h e r e a n d w it h
lb s in flu e n c e a n d v o ic e , p o t e n t a s i t is , h e p r o t e s t s w it h c o n ­
s t a n t r e s is t a n c e t h e p o p u la r w i l l a n d a n e c e s s a r y m e a s u r e , a n d
t h is i s h i s o b s t r u c t io n — s i n i s t e r a n d in d e fe n s ib le . T h a t i s m y
rePly t o t h e S e n a to r .
. M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r f r o m N e b r a s k a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r f r o m O k la h o m a ?
M r. N O R R I S . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a d e s ir e t o
ta k e t h e flo o r in l iis o w n r ig h t?
M r. O W E N . Y es.
M r. N O R R I S . I f t h e S e n a to r p r e f e r s , I a m p e r f e c t ly w illin g
1 ° le t h im p r e c e d e m e.
M r. O W E N . I f i t b e a g r e e a b le to t b e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a ,
I s h o u ld lik e to a n s w e r t h e S e n a to r f r o m I o w a .
M r. N O R R I S . I w i l l y i e l d t o t h e S e n a to r .
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e p r im a r y c r it ic is m o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a [M r. C u m m i n s ], t o w h ic h I w i s h t o m a k e a
v e r y b r ie f r e s p o n s e , w a s a g a i n s t w h a t h e c a lle d c a u c u s a c t io n o n
t h e p e n d in g b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y b ill. I d o n o t a t t h i s t im e
d e s ir e to g o in t o a n y e x t e n s i v e d is c u s s io n o f t h e g e n e r a l m e r its
M t h e p o lic y o f h a v in g p a r t y c a u c u s a c tio n , e x c e p t to s a y in
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c h a r g e d w it h t h e r e s p o n s ib ilit y o f g o v e r n m e n t b y t h e A m e r ic a n
p e o p le h a v e a r ig h t t o a c c o m p lis h t h a t t a s k . I in s is t , h o w e v e r ,
t h a t t h a t p a r t y s h a ll b e p e r m itt e d to p e r fo r m t h a t d u ty in a
d ir e c t, s im p le , a n d e ffic ie n t w a y , a n d i f i t p r o v e to b e n e c e s s a r y
to h a v e , a c a u c u s a n d a b in d in g c a u c u s in o r d e r to c a r r y o u t
a n d m a k e e f fe c tiv e t h e p le d g e s m a d e b y t h a t p a r t y to t h e p e o p le
o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s a n d t o o v e r c o m e t h e o b s t r u c t io n s a n d d iffi­
c u lt ie s p la c e d in t h e ir p a th b y t h e m in o r it y , i t i s f u l l y j u s t if ie d
a s a m a tt e r o f c o m m o n s e n s e .
T h e c r it ic is m o f t h e S e n a to r
fr o m I o w a h a s n o j u s t if ic a t io n , h o w e v e r , a s to c a u c u s a c t io n o n
t h is b ill. T h is m e a s u r e h a s b e e n b e f o r e t h e c o u n tr y in s u b ­
s t a n c e fo r fiv e y e a r s . T h e p r in c ip le s o f t h e b ill a re- n o t n e w .
T h e p r in c ip le o f c o n c e n t r a t in g t h e r e s e r v e s o f t h e N a t io n , o f
m a k in g th e m m o b ile a n d r e s p o n s iv e t o o u r c o m m e r c ia l n e c e s ­
s it ie s , t h e n e c e s s it y f o r a n o p e n m a r k e t f o r c o m m e r c ia l b ills , t h e
n e e d f o r e la s t ic c u r r e n c y in t h i s c o u n tr y , h a s b e e n w e ll u n d e r ­
s t o o d b y e v e r y s t u d e n t o f fin a n c e . W h e n t h e S e n a te , w it h la g ­
g a r d m o tio n a n d in e f f e c t iv e a c tio n , in 1 0 0 8 p a s s e d t h e V r e e la n d A ld r ie h b i l l ; w h e n t h e p a r t y o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a a n d h is
p a r t y a s s o c ia t e s w e r e in c h a r g e o f t h e S e n a te , a n d w h e n t h e y
h a d t h e o p p o r tu n ity o f g iv in g t h i s c o u n t r y r e lie f , d id n o t a v a il
t h e m s e lv e s o f t h e o p p o r tu n it y t h e y h a d , b u t, o n t h e c o n t r a r y ,
g a v e u s t h e in e f fe c t iv e , p o o r e x p e d ie n t , t h e m e r e t e m p o r a r y e x ­
p e d ie n t o f t h e s o -c a lle d V r e e la u d -A ld r ic h b ill, t h e y a t l e a s t d id
s o m u c h a s t o r e s p o n d in a s m a ll d e g r e e t o t h e e x p e c t a t io n o f
t h e c o u n tr y b y a u t h o r iz in g a N a t io n a l M o n e ta r y C o m m is s io n to
s t u d y t h i s m a tt e r a n d in fo r m t h e S e n a te a n d t h e c o u n tr y ------M r. B O R A H . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r f r o m Id a h o ?
M r. O W E N . I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r .
M r. B O R A H .
T h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a v o t e d f o r t h e
V r e e la n d -A ld r ic h b ill a n d m a d e a d a y ’s sp e e c h in s u p p o r t o f it ?
M r. O W E N . T h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a p r o t e s t e d a g a in s t
t h e V r e e la n d -A ld r ie li b ill. T h e S e n a t o r fr o m O k la h o m a v o t e d
a g a in s t t h e V r e e la n d -A ld r ic h b ill. T h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
p o in te d o u t t h e d e f e c t s o f t h e p r im a r y d r a f t o f t h e A ld r ic h b ill
t h a t d id n o t p a s s t h e S e n a t e ; h e v o t e d f o r it, a f t e r i t h a d b e e n
a m e n d e d to c o m p ly in p a r t w it h h is d e m a n d s , b e c a u s e it w a s
t h e b e s t h e c o u ld g e t u n d e r t h e c ir c u m s t a n c e s . H e v o t e d f o r i t
b e c a u s e i t w a s b e t te r t h a n n o th in g , a n d h e s a id s o o n t h e flo o r.
M r. B O I tA H . I u n d e r s t a n d t h e S e n a to r v o te d f o r t h e b ill.
M r. O W E N .
T h e S e n a to r h a s a lr e a d y a n s w e r e d t h a t q u e s ­
tio n .
M r. B O R A H .
I d id n o t u n d e r s t a n d t h e S e n a t o r ’s a n s w e r .
I u n d e r s to o d h im t o s a y in t h e f ir s t in s t a n c e t h a t h e v o te d
a g a in s t i t a n d a f t e r w a r d s t h a t h e v o t e d f o r it.
M r. O W E N . I d id n o t s a y t h a t .
M r. B O R A I I. T h e n I m is u n d e r s t o o d t h e S e n a to r . I a s k h im
n o w i f i t i s n o t t r u e t h a t t h e S e n a to r v o te d f o r t h e V r e e la n d A ld r ic h b ill?
M r. O W E N . H e d id n o t. H e v o t e d a g a in s t it.
M r. B O R A H . W h a t b ill w a s i t t h e S e n a to r v o te d f o r ?
M r. O W E N .
T h e S e n a t o r v o t e d f o r t h e f ir s t d r a f t t h a t
p a s s e d t h e S e n a te o n t h e g r o u n d t h a t i t w a s b e t t e r t h a n n o t h ­
in g . D o e s t h a t a n s w e r t h e S e n a t o r ’s q u e s tio n ?
M r. B O R A H .
I t a n s w e r s a s to t h e v o t e , b u t I a m n o t s o
c e r t a in a s to t h e g r o u n d .
M r. O W E N . T h e S e n a to r c a n c o n s u lt t h e R ecokd a n d a d v is e
h im s e lf fu r th e r , b e c a u s e t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a e x p r e s s e d
h i s o p in io n o n t h e flo o r o f t h e S e n a te .
M r. L I P P I T T . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r f r o m O k la h o m a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m R h o d e I s la n d ?
M r. O W E N .
I s h o u ld l i k e to b e a llo w e d t o c o n t in u e m y
a r g u m e n t a n d n o t h a v e i t c h o p p e d to p ie c e s b y in te r r u p tio n ’s
o n t h e o t h e r s id e u n t il I g e t t h r o u g h . T h e n I w i l l a n s w e r a n y
q u e s t io n w h a t e v e r .
M r. L I P P I T T . I a m s o r r y ------M r. O W E N . I t i s t h e g e n e r a l h a b it in t h e S e n a t e w h e n a n y
S e n a to r i s m a k in g a n a r g u m e n t t h a t h a s a n y c o h e r e n c e in i t
to h a v e o n e o f t h e S e n a t o r s r is e in h i s p la c e a n d c r o s s - q u e s t io n
a n d d iv e r t h im in v a r io u s a n d d iff e r e n t w a y s , so t h a t it i s
a lm o s t im p o s s ib le to m a k e a c o h e r e n t a r g u m e n t.
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M r S u t h e r l a n d t h e n p r o m p tly d is a p p e a r e d a n d w a s n o t o n d t im e t h a t I d e m a n d e d t h e p r e s e n c e o f a q u o r u m , w h ic h w a s
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q u o r u m a t 4 p. m ., a n d 54 w e r e p r e s e n t o n t h e r o ll c a ll
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p r e s e n t o n t lie r o il c a ll. M r. G a l l in g e r m a d e t h e p o in t o f n o S e n a to r s w e r e t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o [M r . I i io m a b ] and
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w e r e j u s t 8 S e n a t o r s in t h e ir s e a ts ?
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j u s t if ie d in f e e l i n g a t lib e r t y to g o to lu n c h e v e n i f th e r e w a s
s o m e th in g o n h a n d o f m o r e o r le s s im p o r t a n c e ; b u t w h e n t h e r e
i s n o th in g o f a n y im p o r ta h e e g o in g on , e x c e p t j u s t s im p ly t h e
b e a t in g o f t h e a ir w it h e m p ty w o r d s , I t h in k t h e S e n a to r is t h e
m o r e j u s t if ie d in r e t ir in g to t h e c lo a k r o o m . N o t h in g b u t a
s e n s ib le m ile o f c lo t u r e w ill a b a te t h i s f a r c ic a l, a b su r d , a n d p r e ­
p o s te r o u s p e r fo r m a n c e .
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a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r f r o m W y o m in g ?
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M r. C L A R K o f W y o m in g . Mi*. P r e s id e n t , I w a n t to t r e s p a s s
o n t h e t im e o f t h e S e n a to r f o r j u s t o n e m o m e n t w h ile I b e g to
d is s e n t fr o m h is im p lie d s t a t e m e n t t h a t t h e II e tc h H e t e liy is a
r a th e r u n im p o r t a n t m attei*.
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su p r e m e im p o r ta n c e ; to m a n y o f u s, w it h t h e e x c e p tio n , p e r ­
h a p s, o f th e t a r if f b ill a n d o f t h e c u r r e n c y b ill n o w p e n d in g , i t
18 th e m o s t im p o r ta n t m e a s u r e ------M r. O W E N . I t i s n o t t h e s u b j e c t ; i t i s t h e t im e - w a s t in g ta lk
t h a t I w a s c o m m e n tin g o n .
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M r. C L A R K o f W y o m in g . I t i s t h e m o s t im p o r ta n t m e a s u r e
h i i t s r e s u lt s t h a t h a s b een b e fo r e t h e S e n a te f o r m a n y a d a y .
W h ile I h a v e n o t, to m y r e c o lle c t io n , c a lle d a t t e n t io n to t h e t a c t
o f th e a b s e n c e o f S e n a to r s a n d in s is t e d u p o n a q u o r u m , I h a v e
f e lt all t h e lim e t h a t s u c h a c a ll w a s j u s t if ie d , b e c a u s e o t t h e
im p o r ta n c e o f t h e s u b j e c t a n d b e c a u s e o f t h e m o s t e x c e lle n t ,
e x h a u s t iv e , a n d c o n v in c in g s p e e c h w h ic h t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la ­
h o m a s p e a k s o f a s “ e m p ty w o r d s ” o r a s “ b e a t in g t h e a ir .
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can n o t a llo w a s t a t e m e n t o f t h a t c h a r a c t e r t o p a s s a n d l e a v e
th e im p r e s s io n t h a t I f o r o n e c o n s id e r t h e I l e t c h H e t e h y p r o p o ­
s itio n a n u n im p o r ta n t m a tte r .
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im p o r ta n t m a t t e r ; b u t I t h in k a w e e k ’s t a lk a b o u t i t i s r id ic u ­
lo u s w h e n e v e r y m a n h a s m a d e u p h i s m in d .
o M r. C L A R K o f W y o m in g . I d e s ir e to c a l l t h e a t t e n t io n o f th e
S e n a te f u r t h e r to t h e f a c t t h a t t h i s w e e k h a s b e e n d e v o t e d b y
th e c o n s e n t o f t h e S e n a to r a n d b y t h e u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t o f t h e
S e n a te to t h e d is c u s s io n a n d d e c is io n o f t h i s v e r y im p o r ta n t
m a tte r o f t h e H e t c h I l e t c h y a n d n o t to t h e c o n s id e r a tio n or
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o r s e e k in g to o b s tr u c t, n o r c a n t h e y h e c o n s id e r e d a s o b s t r u c t ­
in g , t h e c o u r s e o f t h e c u r r e n c y b ill b y t a k in g t h e t im e o f t h e
S e n a te w h ic h h a s b e e n u n a n im o u s ly g r a n t e d f o r t h e c o n s id e r a ­
tio n o f t h e H e t c h H e t e h y m a tte r .
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c a ll a tte n tio n to t h e f a c t t h a t M r. G a l l in g e r a t 1 .5 5 p. m . o n
W e d n e s d a y c a lle d f o r a q u o ru m , a n d 66 S e n a t o r s a n s w e r e d to
t h e r o ll c a ll. M r. B eandegee m a d e t h e p o in t o f n o q u o r u m , a n d
i t d e v e lo p e d f o r t h e f ir s t t im e t h a t t h e r e w a s n o q u o r u m , it.
b e in g im m e d ia t e ly a f t e r d in n e r a n d s o m e S e n a to r s n o t h a v in g
fin is h e d d in n e r . T h e r e w e r e o n ly 40 S e n a to r s w h o a n s w e r e d t h e
r o ll c a ll u n til a b o u t 3 0 m in u t e s ------M r. S M O O T . F o r ty -fiv e m in u te s .
M r. O W E N . W h ic h I t h in k is a m a tt e r g r e a t ly to b e r e ­
g r e tte d . M r. S moot m a d e t h e p o in t o f n o q u o r u m a t 1 0 .1 5 t h is
m o r n in g , a n d I w a n t to s a y , in p a s s in g , t h a t in c o m m e n tin g u p o n
t h e a b s e n c e o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m U t a h [M r. S m oot ] t h e o t h e r
e v e n in g I d id n o t do so w it h a n y u n k in d in t e n t o r to in d ic a t e
t h a t h e w a s n o t f a it h f u l in h i s a t te n d a n c e u p o n t h e s e s s io n s o f
t h e S e n a te . 1 do n o t b e lie v e th e r e i s a m a n in t h i s b o d y w h o
i s m o r e f a it h f u l in h is a t t e n d a n c e t h a n i s t h e S e n a to r fr o m
U ta h , a n d I d o n o t b e lie v e t h e r e i s a m o r e in d u s t r io u s m a n in
t h is b o d y th a n h e. I am g la d t o p a y t h a t m e a s u r e o f r e s p e c t to
h im , b e c a u s e I t h in k h e i s e n t ir e ly d e s e r v in g o f i t ,
M r. T H O M A S . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o ?
M r. O W E N . I y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r .
M r. T H O M A S . M r. P r e s id e n t , I m e r e ly w is h t o e m p h a s iz e
m y a p p r e c ia t io n o f t h e l a s t s t a t e m e n t o f th e S e n a to r fr o m O k la ­
h o m a [M r. O w e n ]. I d iffe r r a d ic a lly o n a lm o s t e v e r y p u b lic
p r o p o s itio n w it h t h e S e n a to r fr o m U t a h [M r. S m oo t ], b u t h is
p o w e r s o f a p p lic a tio n a n d in d u s t r y , liis c lo s e a t t e n t io n to p u b lic
b u s in e s s h a s c o m m a n d e d m y a d m ir a tio n e v e r s in c e I h a v e b e e n a
M e m b e r o f t h is b o d y . H e i s a b itt e r p a r t is a n , b u t h e fig h ts
f a i r l y a n d in t h e op en . H e f o u g h t t h e t a r if f b ill fr o m i t s b e g in ­
n in g to i t s e n d in g . I t e n c o u n te r e d h is u n r e le n t in g o p p o s itio n ,
a n d y e t h e w a n t e d to s e e t h a t b ill a s to i t s d e t a ils a s p e r f e c t
a s p o s s ib le , n o t w it h s t a n d in g t h a t f a c t , s in c e h e c o u ld n o t p r e ­
v e n t i t s e n a c tm e n t. I w a n t h e r e a n d n o w to a c k n o w le d g e m y
s e n s e o f o b lig a tio n t o t h e S e n a to r , b e c a u s e d u r in g 1be c o n s id e r a ­
t io n o f t h a t b ill h e g a v e m e m a n y e x t r e m e ly v a lu a b le s u g g e s t io n s
a n d m u c h d e s ir a b le in fo r m a t io n c o n c e r n in g m a n y o f t h e it e m s
o f t h e b ill a n d r e la t in g a s w e ll to i t s g e n e r a l fr a m e w o r k , m a n y
o f w h ic h I w a s g la d to a v a il m y s e lf o f a n d w h ic h w e r e in c o r ­
p o r a te d in t h e b ill. I t h in k t h e S e n a to r fr o m U t a h i s e n t it le d
to t i n s s t a t e m e n t a n d to it s a p p e a r a n c e in t h e R ecord , t o t h e e n d
t h a t h e a t l e a s t m a y b e f r e e fr o m t h e c h a r g e o r im p u t a tio n o f
n e e d le s s ly filib u s te r in g a g a in s t im p o r ta n t le g is la t io n . C e r ta in it
i s t h a t n o o n e is m o r e a t t e n t i v e to h is p u b lic d u t ie s t h a n t h e
s e n io r S e n a to r fr o m U ta h .
M r. N O R R I S . M r. P r e s id e n t , I in q u ir e i f t h e S e n a to r fr o m
O k la h o m a h a s c o n c lu d e d ?
M r. O W E N . I h a v e .
M r. N O R R I S . M r. P r e s id e n t , it i s n o t m y in te n t io n a t t h i s
t im e to d is c u s s , a t l e a s t a t a n y le n g th , t h e q u e s t io n o f c a u c u s
c o n tr o l r a is e d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a [M r. C u m m i n s ], I
w is h to .d is c u s s b r ie fly a n o th e r p h a s e o f t h e q u e s t io n t h a t i s
im m e d ia t e ly b e fo r e th e S e n a te , b u t I c a n n o t p e r m it t h e o c c a s io n
to p a s s w it h o u t s a y in g t h a t I c o n c u r m o s t f u l l y a n d e n t h u s i­
a s t i c a l l y w it li e v e r y t h i n g t h e S e n a t o r fr o m I o w a h a s s a i d u p o n
th e q u e s tio n o f m u c u s c o n tr o l.
I n t h a t c o n n e c tio n I w a n t to c a ll a t t e n t io n to o n e or t w o
t h in g s t h a t w e r e u ieh jjion ed b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m I llin o is [M r.
L e w i s ]. H e s a id , in c o m m e n d in g t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a , t h a t
t h o s e in t h e m a j o r it y o f* T h e S e n a te s h o u ld d o t h e b e s t t h e y
c o u ld to c a r r y o u t t lie ir p la tf o r m p le d g e s ; a n d t h e S e n a t o r f r o m
I llin o is r e a c h e d t h e c o n c lu s iv e , t h a t t h a t n e c e s s a r ily b r o u g h t
a b o u t c a u c u s c o n tr o l b y t h e m a tu r ity s id e , a n d h e c it e d t h e a c ­
tio n t h a t lia s b e e n t a k e n b y t h e D e m o c r a t s in c a u c u s in g o r in
h o ld in g a c o n fe r e n c e o n t h e c u r r e n c y m e a s u r e . T h e S e n a to r
fr o m I o w a , in h is o p p o s itio n to t h e can e,u s, w o u ld n o t o b je c t to
t h e D e m o c r a t s h o ld in g a c o n fe r e n c e , o r l b t h e R e p u b lic a n s a n d
D e m o c r a t s t o g e th e r h o ld in g a c o n f e r e n c e * ^ ? b r in g a b o u t t h e
b e s t m e a n s to c a r r y o u t a n y p r in c ip le o f g o v e r n m e n t; b u t le t
u s i l lu s t r a t e i t ,h e r e a n d s e e t h e d iff e r e n c e — a n d ^ t h in k th e r e i s
a d iffe r e n c e . F o r in s t a n c e , in t h e c u r r e n c y m e a s u r e th e r e is a
c o n t e s t b e t w e e n f r ie n d s o f t h e m e a s u r e — a n d I am A ra in g i t o n ly
a s a n i llu s t r a t io n — a s to w h e t h e r t h e r e s h a ll b e l 2 i r e g io n a l
b a n k s or a l e s s n u m b e r o f r e g io n a l b a n k s.
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c e d e d b y e v e r y m a n t h a t h o n e s t S e n a to r s , h o n e s t in d iv id u a ls
m a y h o n e s t ly d is a g r e e a s to t h e n u m b e r o f r e g io n a l b a n k s t h e
n e w s y s t e m s h o u ld h a v e . T h e th e o r y o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a
a n d t h o s e w h o b e lie v e w it h h im t h a t t h e c a u c u s sh o u ld n o t con -

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t r o l t h e v o t e s o f S e n a to r s in s u c h m a t t e r s w o u ld le a v e e v e r y
M e m b e r o f t h is b o d y f r e e w h e n t h e m a t t e r c o m e s o f fic ia lly b e ­
f o r e th e S e n a te to f o llo w h is c o n s c ie n tio u s j u d g m e n t a f t e r t h e
d is c u s s io n h a d ta k e n p la c e a n d t h e e v id e n c e h a d a l l b e e n o ffe r e d
a s t o h o w m a n y r e g io n a l b a n k s h e w a n t e d t o v o t e f o r ; b u t
c a u c u s c o n t r o l w o u ld m e a n t h a t , e v e n o n t h a t d e t a il, a S e n a to r
s h o u ld v o t e t h e d e c r e e o f t h e c a u c u s r a t h e r t h a n f o llo w h is o w n
j u d g m e n t a f t e r h e h u d lis t e n e d to t h e e v id e n c e ; a n d h e w o u ld
h a v e to r e a c h t h a t c o n c lu s io n b e f o r e t h e a r g u m e n t w a s m a d e
a n d b e fo r e th e r e h a d b e e n a n y o ffic ia l c o n s id e r a t io n o f t h e
m ea su re
I t h in k t h a t i l lu s t r a t e s t h e d iff e r e n c e o f o p in io n t h a t
e x is ts b etw een th o se w h o fa v o r th e c a u c u s a n d th o se w h o a re
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f u l lv s a id , s p e a k in g o f t h e w o r k o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a [M r.
C u m m i n s ] w h e n h e w a s g o v e r n o r o f I o w a , t h a t h e w a s a p io n e e r
in a n tip a s s le g is la t io n .
S u p p o s e t h a t w e h a d n o a n t ip a s s la w o n t h e F e d e r a l s t a t u t e s ,
a n d t h a t b e c a m e a q u e s t io n f o r n a t io n a l l e g is la t io n . H e r e , th e n ,
i s a p io n e e r , a m a n w h o t h e S e n a to r fr o m I l l i n o i s a d m it s i s a n
a u t h o r it y o n t h e s u b je c t, o n e o f t h e m e n w h o b e g a n t h e fig h t,
a n d h e, u n d e r t h e p r e s e n t c a u c u s m e th o d s o f t h e D e m o c r a t s o f
t h e S e n a te , w o u ld b e e x c lu d e d fr o m p a r t ic ip a t in g in a n y d e lib ­
e r a t io n t h a t c o u ld h a v e a n y e f fe c t o n t h e f r a m in g o f a n y la w
o n t h a t su b je c t. U n d e r t h i s c a u c u s m e th o d t h i s m a n , w h o m t h e
S e n a to r fr o m I l l i n o i s a d m it s is t h e b e s t q u a lifie d to f r a m e s u c h
a m e a s u r e , w o u ld n o t b e a llo w e d to h a v e a n y t h in g t o d o w it h t h e
f r a m in g o f t h e b ill. H i s c o u n s e l w o u ld b e d e n ie d . H e w o u ld
b e e x c lu d e d fr o m a ll d e lib e r a t io n s t h a t c o u ld h a v e a n y e ffe c t.
T h e c o u n tr y w o u ld n o t g e t t h e b e n e fit o f h is a d v ic e , a b ilit y o r
k n o w le d g e . W h e n t h e c a u c u s h a d d e c id e d a ll t h e d e t a i ls o f t h e
b ill, p e r h a p s in se c r e t, a n d h a d r e p o r te d i t to t h e S e n a te , t h e
i t is t r u e h e c o u ld t a lk a n d t a lk a n d o ffe r to a m e n d , b u t t h e
c a u c u s d e c r e e w o u ld c o m p e l t h e m a j o r it y to o p p o s e e v e r y
a m e n d m e n t h e w o u ld o ffe r , e v e n th o u g h t h e y w e r e a ll c o n v in c e d
h i s p r o p o s it io n w o u ld im p r o v e t h e b ill.
M r R E E D . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m M is s o u r i?
M r. N O R R I S . I y ie ld t o t h e S e n a to r .
M r. R E E D .
T h e S e n a to r f r o m I o w a w o u ld n o t a t a ll he
e x c lu d e d ; w e w o u ld w e lc o m e h im a t a n y t im e in to a D e m o c r a t ic
c o n f e r e n c e , l i s t e n t o h im w it h p le a s u r e a llo w h im to v o t e
a n d w o u ld b e g la d i f h e w o u ld s e e e n o u g h o f t h e t i u e lig h t so
t h a t lie w o u ld p e r m a n e n tly j o in u s.
M r. N O R R I S .
I e x p e c t e d t h a t k in d o f a s u g g e s t io n , i t is
n o t t h e f ir s t t im e t h a t i t h a s b e e n m a d e .
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M r R E E D . A n d , M r. P r e s id e n t , w e li k e w i s e e x t e n d t h e i n v i ­
t a t io n to th o S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a .
M r N O R R IS .
I h a v e h a d t h a t in v it a t io n e x t e n d e d m a n y
tim es'. S e n a t o r s t h in k i t is a jo k e , b u t, a s a m a t t e r o f f a c t , it
i s a s e r io u s p r o p o s itio n . T h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a [M r. C u m ­
m i n s ] a n d t h e S e n a to r fr o m I d a h o [M r. B o r a h ], a n d a ll o th e r
S e n a to r s f o r t h a t m a tt e r , h a v e , f o r r e a s o n s s u ffic ie n t u n to t h e m ­
s e lv e s aligned t h e m s e lv e s w i t h a c e r t a in p a r t y . T h e r e m a y b e
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f lo w in g -w i t h i n t h i s s t r e a m a r e t h e a b s o lu t e p r o p e r t y o f th e
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s t r e a m t h e C o n g r e s s o f t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s h a s n o j u r is d ic t io n
o r c o n s t i t u t i o n a l r ig h t .
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in d ir e c t , t h a t a l l o w t h e g a t h e r in g t o g e t h e r a n d t h e d is tr ib u tio n
o f t h e w a t e r s f lo w in g in t h a t s t r e a m is a n in v a s io n o f t h e con ­
s t i t u t i o n a l r ig h t s o f t h e S t a t e o f C a lif o r n ia , a n d t h a t a s it js
a n i n v a s i o n o f t h e c o n s t i t u t i o n a l r i g h t s o f t h e S t a t e o f C a li­
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o t h e r S t a t e w h ic h o w n s w a t e r s w i t h i n i t s b o r d e r s .
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e n t f r o m t h e C o n n e c t ic u t D a m C o .’s b ill. I t i s d if f e r e n t from
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a n o th e r , b u t i t i s a p u r e , l o c a l s t r e a m o v e r w h ic h C a lifo r n ia
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L uke Lea," a- S e n a to r fr o m t h e S t a t e o f T e n n e s s e e , and W i l ­
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A u d e n S m i t h , a S e n a to r f r o m
t h e S ta te o f M ic h ig a n ,
a p p e a r e d in t h e ir s e a t s to -d a y .
T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T . T h e S e c r e ta r y w i l l r e a d t h e J o u r ­
n a l o f t h e p r o c e e d in g s o f t h e la s t le g is la t iv e d a y .
M r. SM O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t, t h e r e a r e v e r y f e w S e n a to r s m
t h e C h a m b e r ; th is is -the b e g in n in g o f a w e e k , a n d I s u g g e s t
t h e a b s e n c e o f a q u o ru m .
T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T . T h e S e c r e t a r y will call the roll.
T h e S e c r e t a r y c a lle d t h e r o ll, a n d t h e f o llo w in g S e n a to r s
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t io n fr o m t h e S e c r e t a r y o f W a r , t r a n s m itt in g , p u r s u a n t to la w ,
a d e t a ile d s t a t e m e n t o f a l l e x p e n s e s in c u r r e d fr o m J u n e 3 0 to
Dec e m b e r 1, 1 9 1 3, f o r t h e a t t e n d a n c e o f o ffic e r s a n d e m p lo y e e s
a t m e e t in g s o f s o c ie t ie s a n d a s s o c ia t io n s , w h ic h , w it h t h e a c c o m ­
p a n y in g p a p e r , w a s o r d e r e d to l i e o n t h e t a b le a n d to b e p r in te d .
M E SSA G E FKOM T H E H O U SE .

A m e s s a g e fr o m t h e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s , b y J . C. S o u th ,
its ; C h ie f C lerk , a n n o u n c e d t h a t t h e S p e a k e r o f t h e H o u s e h a d
s ig n e d t h e e n r o lle d b ill ( S . 4 8 8 ) to a u th o r iz e th e s a le a n d is s u ­
a n c e o f p a te n t o f c e r t a in la n d to H . W , O ’M e lv e n y , a n d i t w a s
th e r e u p o n s ig n e d b y t h e V ic e P r e s id e n t .
P E T IT IO N S A N D M E M O R IA L S .

M r. S H I V E L Y p r e s e n te d a p e t it io n o f s u n d r y m e m b e r s o f t h e
B ib le c la s s o f t h e F ir s t M e t h o d is t C h u r c h o f M is h a w a k a , In d .,
p r a y in g f o r t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e s o - c a lle d K e n y o n r e d -lig h t in ju n c ­
t io n b ill, w h ic h w a s o r d e r e d to, Tie o n t h e ta b le .
M r. T H O M P S O N p r e s e n t e d , 4 p e t itio n o f t h e W ic h ita A s s o c ia ­
tio n o f C r e d it M en , o f W ic h ita ) K a n s ., p r a y in g f o r t h e im m e d ia te
e n a c t m e n t o f le g is la t io n r e f o r m in g t h e b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y
la w s , w h ic h w a s o r d e r e d t o l i e o n t h e ta b le .
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o t h e r c it iz e n s o f P it t s b u r g , K a n s ., a n d t h e p e t itio n o f A r th u r J.
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f o r t h e im m e d ia t e p a s s a g e o f t h e s o - c a lle d O w e n -G la s s c u r r e n c y
b ill, w h ic h w e r e o r d e r e d to l i e o n t h e ta b le .
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r in e S o c ie t y , o f M a s s a c h u s e tt s , f a v o r in g a n a p p r o p r ia tio n f o r
t h e im p r o v e m e n t" o f t h e P o llo c k R ip C h a n n e l, in t h a t S ta t e ,
w h ic h were r e f e r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e o n C o m m e r c e .
H e a ls o p r e s e n te d a p e t itio n o f t h e L a d ie s ’ B e n e v o le n t S o ­
c ie t y o f t h e C o n g r e g a tio n a l C h u r c h o f M ittin e a g u e , B la s s., p r a y ­
in g f o r t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e s o -c a lle d a n tip o ly g a m y b ill, w h ic h
w a s r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e o n t h e J u d ic ia r y .
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r e c to r s o f t h e B o a r d o f T r a d e o f C a p e C od, B la ss., f a v o r in g a n
a p p r o p r ia tio n f o r ih e p la c in g o f a i d s to n a v ig a t io n in B u z z a r d s
B a y , ill- t h a t S ta t e , w h ic h w e r e r e f e r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e on
C om m en ce.
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C h a s e a n d s u n d r y o t h e r c it iz e n s o f J a c k s o n , B lic h ., r e m o n s t r a t ­
in g a g a in s t t h e a d o p tio n o f a n a m e n d m e n t to t h e C o n s titu tio n
g r a n t in g t h e r ig h t o f s u f f r a g e t o w o m e n , w h ic h w a s o r d e r e d to
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Bfr. S M I T H o f M ic h ig a n p r e s e n te d a p e t itio n o f s u n d r y c i t i ­
z e n s o f D e t r o it , M ich ., p r a y in g f o r t h e e n a c tm e n t o f le g is la t io n
f o r t h e r e lie f o f m e m b e r s o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s M ilit a r y T e le ­
g r a p h C o rp s d u r in g t h e C iv il W a r, w h ic h w a s j p f e r r e d to t h e
C o m m itte e o n P e n s io n s .
H e a ls o p r e s e n te d a p e t itio n o f M e n a c e C lu b ,N o . 213, o f N a s h ­
v ille , B lich ., p r a y in g f o r t h e e n a c t m e n t o f le g is la t io n to f u r th e r
r e s t r ic t im m ig r a tio n , w h ic h w a s r e fe r r e d t o t h e C o m m itte e o n
I m m ig r a tio n .
H e a ls o p r e s e n te d a p e t it io n o f t h e B o a r d o f T r a d e o f F r e ­
m o n t, B lich ., p r a y in g f o r t h e a d o p tio n u f a 1 -c e n t le t t e r p o s ta g e ,
w h ic h w a s r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m i n M e o n P o s t O ffices a n d P o s t
R o a d s.
l i e a ls o p r e s e n te d p e t it io n s o f t h e C h a m b e r o f C o m m e r c e o f
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C r e d it B le n ’s A s s o c ia t io n o fp G r a n d R a p id s , a ll in t h e S t a t e o f
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flo o d s a lo n g t h e O h io a x id -M is s is s ip p i R iv e r s , w h ic h w e r e r e ­
fe r r e d t o t h e C o m m itte e o n C o m m e r c e .
H e a ls o p r e s e n te d m e m o r ia ls o f m e m b e r s o f t h e f a c u l t y o f t h e
U n iv e r s it y o f M ichigan?, A n n A r b o r ; o f t h e T w e n t ie t h C e n tu r y
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tio n g r a n t in g t o . t h e c i t y o f S a n F r a n c is c o t h e r ig h t to u s e t h e
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s io n s .
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la n d s in t h e S t a t e o f W a s h in g t o n , a n d f o r o th e r p u r p o s e s ; to t h e
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<hi1 U n i t e d S t a t e s f r o m E f P a s o , T e x . , t o t h e I a c i f i c c o a s t .
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and ro m a n tic e x p e r i e n c e # o f c a m p l i f e in t % d e s e r t a s w e l l a s m a n y
s t e r n a n d s t r e n u o u s m e n t a l a n d p h y s i c a l t e s t s , h e w a s c o m p l i m e n t e d in
a s ta te p a p e r h v th e S e c r e ta r y o f S ta te .
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fn t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n o f f o r t i f i c a t i o n s a n d a s o il w a l l a t F o r t M o n r o e .
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w a s t h e W a s h in g t o n A q u e d u c t , h a v in g b e e n p u t m s o le c h a r g e o f th is
w o r k w h e n I ig avjis o n l y 3. f i r s t licutGUUnt.
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m is s io n o f th e G o v e r n m e n t .
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t h e s t a ff o f M a j. G en . J a m e s F r a n k lin W a d e a n d s e r v e d a t T a m p a a n d
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o f t h a t re g im e n t, r e m a in in g s o u n t il th e r e g im e n t w a s m u s te r e d o u t
in 1 8 9 9 .
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b e w a s p l a c e d in c h a r g e o f t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f S a n t a C l a r a , C u b a .
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a g a in a s s ig n e d t o th e W a s h in g t o n A q u e d u c t , b u t w a s s o o n a p p o in t e d
a s s is t a n t e n g in e e r c o m m is s io n e r o f th e D is t r ic t o f C o lu m b ia .
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p l a c e d in e n t i r e c h a r g e o f t h e w a t e r , s e w e r , a n d b u i l d i n g d e p a r t m e n t s
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h a r b o r I m p r o v e m e n ts o n L a k e S u p e r io r .
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h e c o m p l e t e d t h e l a r g e s t d r e d g i n g c o n t r a c t e v e r le t
S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t u p t o t h a t t im e , t a k i n g o u t o v e r - 1 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 c u b i c
y a W h e n t h e G e n e r a l S t a f f o f t h e A r m y w a s e s t a b l i s h e d b y la w , t h e r e
w a s a s t u d y o f r e c o r d s t o d e t e r m in e t h e f i t n e s s o t m e n f o i f l i s t s e i v i c e
in it s m e m b e r s h ip .
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ch o s e n , a n d h e s e r v e d a lm o s t u n in t e r r u p t e d ly a s a m e m b e r o t th e
S ta ff C o r p s u n t il h e w a s o r d e r e d t o P a n a m a .
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th e m o s t s c h o la r ly .
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neers ” u n d e r t h e t i t l e “ W a v e a c t i o n . ”
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l e t t e r s t o h im a b o u t i t .
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v a r io u s e n g in e e r in g s o c ie t ie s , a n d e v e n b e fo r e h e s o lv e d t h e p r o b le m o t
t h e g r e a t C u J e b ra s l i d e s h e w a s c o n s i d e r e d o n e o f t h e f o r e m o s t o t a u ­
t h o r it ie s o n c e r t a in p h a s e s o f e n g in e e r in g .
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.r e g a r d t o C o l. G a i ll a r d ’s w o r k o n t h e c e n t r a l d iv is io n , k n o w n a s th e
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p r o je c t w h ic h th e w o r ld w ill a lw a y s re g a rd a s stu p e n d o u s .
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u n e m o t io n a lly s h o v e le d th e c la y o u t o f th e w a y m u ch n s t h e h o u s e ­
h o ld e r s h o v e ls t h e s n o w fr o m h is s id e w a lk , a n d g o n e a b o u t h is b u s i­
n e s s o f c u t t i n g t h e b a c k b o n e o f C u l o b r a .”
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a w a y t h e v e r t e b r e e .”
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u n d e r h is m a n a g e m e n t u n t il b y th e fis ca l y e a r e n d in g J u n e o 0 , 1 J1 2,
th e u n it c o s t a v e r a g e d b u t 4 7 ce n ts .
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c o m r a d e s o f th e A r m y , la b o r e d a t P a n a m a , m o v e d b y t h e s p ir it o t
o b e d i e n c e t o o r d e r s a n d a d e s ir e t h a t t h e w o r k s h o u l d b e w e l l d o n e ,
b u t a ls o h e w a s q u ic k e n e d t o m o s t p a in s t a k in g e n d e a v o r b y t h e k n o w l­
e d g e t h a t t h e E n g i n e e r C o r p s o f t h e A r m y w a s o n t r i a l in a w o r k u p o n
W h ich c iv ilia n e n g in e e r s h a d t u r n e d t h e ir b a c k s .
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T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e q u e s t io n i s o n a g r e e in g to t h e
r e s o lu tio n .
T h e r e s o lu tio n w a s u n a n im o u s ly a g r e e d to .
LEGISLATIVE REFERENCE BUREAU (S . DOC. KO. 2 0 2 ) .
M r. L A F O L L E T T E .
M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e r e h a s b e e n r e p o r te d
f r o m t h e C o m m itte e o n t h e L ib r a r y a n d th e r e i s n o w o n t h e
c a le n d a r a b ill, S e n a t e b ill 1 2 4 0 , to e s t a b lis h a b ill-d r a f tin g
b u r e a u a n d a le g is la t iv e r e f e r e n c e d iv is io n in t h e C o n g r e s s io n a l
L ib r a r y . T h e b ill h a s b e e n r e p o r te d w it h fin a m e n d m e n t. A b o u t
a y e a r a g o t b e A m e r ic a n B a r A s s o c ia t io n a t i t s r e g u la r m e e t in g
a p p o in t e d a c o m m it t e e to in v e s t i g a t e , t h e s u b j e c t o f l e g is la t iv e
b ill d r a f t in g . T h a t c o m m it t e e m a d e i t s r e p o r t a t t h e m e e t in g o f
t h e A m e r ic a n B a r A s s o c ia t io n h e ld a t M o n tr e a l, C a n a d a , in
S e p te m b e r o f t h i s y e a r . I h a v e t h e r e p o r t h e r e , a n d , a s th e r e
s e e m s to b e s o m e m is a p p r e h e n s io n a s to t h e p u r p o s e a n d s c o p e
o f t h e p r o p o s e d le g is la t io n , a n d a s to i t s im p o r ta n c e a s w e ll, I
a s k u n a u im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t t h e r e p o r t a n d t h e a p p e n d ix a c c o m ­
p a n y in g i t m a y b e p r in te d a s a S e n a te d o c u m e n t.
T b e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . I s t h e r e o b je c tio n ? T b e C h a ir
h e a r s n o n e , a n d t h e o r d e r w ill b e e n t e r e d .
MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE.
A m e s s a g e fr o m t h e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s , b y J . C. S o u th ,
i t s C h ie f C le r k , a n n o u n c e d t h a t t h e S p e a k e r o f t h e H o u s e h a d
s ig n e d t h e e n r o lle d b ill ( H . It. 7 2 0 7 ) g r a n t in g to t h e c it y a n d
c o u n ty o f S a n F r a n c is c o c e r t a in r i g h t s o f w a y in , o v e r , a n d
t h r o u g h c e r t a in p u b lic la n d s , t h e Y o s e m it e N a t io n a l P a r k , a n d
S t a n is la u s N a t io n a l F o r e s t, a n d c e r t a in la n d s in t h e Y o s e m ite
N a t io n a l P a rle, t h e S t a n is la u s N a t io n a l F o r e s t , a n d t h e p u b lic
la n d s in t h e S t a t e o f C a lif o r n ia , a n d f o r o th e r p u r p o s e s , a n d i t
w a s th e r e u p o n s ig n e d b y t h e V ic e P r e s id e n t .
RAILROADS IN ALASKA.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e m o r n in g b u s in e s s i s c lo s e d ,
a n d t h e C h a ir la y s b e f o r e t h e S e n a t e t h e f o l lo w in g b ill.
T h e S ec r eta ry . A b ill (S . 4 8 ) to a u t h o r iz e t h e P r e s id e n t o f
t h e U n it e d S t a t e s to lo c a t e , c o n s t r u c t , a n d o p e r a t e r a ilr o a d s in
t h e T e r r ito r y o f A la s k a , a n d f o r o t h e r p u r p o s e s .
M r. C H A M B E R L A I N . M r. P r e s id e n t , s o m e t im e a g o t h a t
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f e e l t h a t b e c a u s e o f t h e p r e s s u r e t h a t i s b e in g u r g e d in e v e r y
p a r t o f t h e c o u n tr y in r e f e r e n c e to t h e c u r r e n c y m e a s u r e i t
m ig h t b e w e ll t o h a v e t h a t b ill p r o c e e d e d w it h 'a n d to d is p la c e
t h e r e g u la r o rd er, te m p o r a r ily a t le a s t . A f te r s u c h d is c u s s io n
I fe e l t h a t p r o b a b ly It m ig h t b e b e tte r to p u r s u e t h a t c o u r s e .
I w o u ld a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t I n i s r e g u la r o r d e r b e
p o stp o n e d u n til t h e d is p o s it io n o f t h e c u r r e n c y m e a s u r e . I d id
n o t w a n t it to lo s e i t s p la c e o n th e c a le n d a r , b u t I w a s p e r f e c t ly
w illin g to h a v e t ills d o n e in o r d e r to g r a t i f y w lia t s e e m e d to b e
t h e d e s ir e o f m o s t o f t h e S e n a to r s w it h w h o m I h a v e d is c u s s e d
t h e q u e stio n .
M r. S M O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t, I w is h to s a y to t h e S e n a to r
t h a t u n d e r t h e u n a n im o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t, t h e r e b e in g a ls o
u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s , t h e o n ly w a y f o r t h e b ill to h o ld i t s p la c e
w o u ld b e to t a k e it u p a t 12 o ’c lo c k . I d o n o t b e lie v e t h a t t h e r e
i s a n y n e c e s s it y f o r a s k in g u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t a t t h is t im e to
t a k e t h is b ill up a t t h e c o n c lu s io n o f th e c o n s id e r a tio n o f t h e
c u r r e n c y b ill. T h a t c a n b e d o n e a f t e r t h a t b ill i s v o te d u p o n ,
w h e t h e r it b e b y u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t o r by a v o t e o f t lie S e n a te .
I d o n o t t h in k a t t h i# t im e t h e r e s h o u ld b e a u n a n im o u s -c o n s e n t
a g r e e m e n t o n t h is p a r t ic u la r b ill.
M r. C H A M B E R -L A IN . I u n d e r sto o d , M r. P r e s id e n t , w h e n t h e
c u r r e n c y b ill w a s m a d e t h e s p e c ia l o r d e r t h a t t h e r e w a s a n
u n d e r sta n d in g -;-e x p r e ss e d q u ite g e n e r a lly b y M e m b e r s o f t h e
S e n a t e t h a t it w o u ld n o t d is p la c e o th e r m a tt e r s w h ic h w e r e s e t
f o r a h e a r in g . O n e o f t h o s e m a t t e r s w a s t h e A la s k a r a ilr o a d
b ill, a n d I a s s u m e t h a t t h a t u n d e r s t a n d in g w i l l b e c a r r ie d o u t
now .
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M r. SM O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t , I d o n o t s e e h o w it c o u ld h e c a r ­
r ie d o u t w it h t h e c u r r e n c y b ill m a d e t lie u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s . I f
t h e S e n a to r w i l l n o tic e t h e c a le n d a r , h e w ill s e e t h a t H o u s e b ill
7 8 3 7 i s a lr e a d y t h e u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s . I f t h e A la s k a n b ill b e
la id a s id e , th e n , o f c o u r s e , i f t lie S e n a te w a n t s to d o so , i t c a n
t a k e u p t h e c u r r e n c y b ill; b u t t h e p r o p e r c o u r s e o f p r o c e d u r e
w o u ld b e to p r o c e e d w it h t h i s b ill u n t il t h a t tim e , o r e ls e h a v e
it la id a s id e a n d h a v e t lie c u r r e n c y b ill n o w c o n s id e r e d .
M r. C H A M B E R L A I N . I w ill s a y f r a n k ly to t h e S e n a to r t h a t
I o n ly w a n t e d to h a v e t h e b ill te m p o r a r ily la id a s id e . 1 d id
n o t w a n t it t o lo s e i t s p la c e o n t h e c a le n d a r .
M r. S M O O T . I f t h a t i s d o n e , o f c o u r s e t h e u n a n im o u s - c o n ­
s e n t a g r e e m e n t i s v o id , b e c a u s e t h e u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t s t a t e s
p o sitiv e ly :
I t is a g r e e d b y u n a n i m o u s c o n s e n t t h a t o n M o n d a y , D e c e m b e r 8 ,
1 9 1 3 , im m e d ia te ly u p o n th e c o n c lu s io n o f t h e r o u tin e m o r n in g b u s in e s s ,
t lie S e n a t e w i l l p r o c e e d t o t b e c o n s i d e r a t i o n o f t li e b i l l ( S . 4 8 ) t o
a u t h o r iz e t h e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n it e d S t a te s t o lo c a t e , c o n s t r u c t , a n d
o p e r a t e r a i l r o a d s in A l a s k a , e t c .

M r. C H A M B E R L A I N . I w ill s a y t o t h e S e n a to r t h a t , s o f a r
a s I a m c o n c e r n e d , I a m p r e p a r e d to g o a h e a d w it h t lie b ill n o w .
I s im p ly w a n t e d to c o m p ly w it h w h a t se e m e d to h e t h e w i s h e s
o f n e a r ly a ll S e n a to r s w h o h a v e sp o k e n t o m e o n t h e s u b j e c t ;
b u t i f t h a t c a n n o t h e d o n e , l e t u s p r o c e e d w it h t h e b ill.
M r. S M O O T . I d o n o t t h in k t h e S e n a to r fr o m O r e g o n w i l l
h a v e a n y t r o u b le w h a t e v e r in b r in g in g u p t h e b ill b y a v o t e
o f t h e S e n a t e a f t e r t h e c u r r e n c y b ill s h a ll h a v e b e e n d is p o s e d o f.
M r. S H I V E L Y . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e C h a ir h a s la id t h e b ill
b e f o r e t h e S e n a te , a n d i t is n o w b e f o r e t h e S e n a te . I t s e e m s
to m e, i f t h e S e n a to r fr o m O r e g o n a s k s u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t
t h e b ill b e t e m p o r a r ily la id a s id e , t h a t t h a t in n o s e n s e d i s p la c e s
i t or c a u s e s i t t o lo s e i t s p la c e in t h e o r d e r o f p r o c e d u r e .
M r. B R A N D E G E E . W e ll, M r. P r e s id e n t , I d o n o t t h in k t h a t
t h e m o tio n to t e m p o r a r ily l a y a s i d e t h e m a t t e r w h ic h is b e fo r e
t h e S e n a te b y u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t g i v e s i t a n y s t a n d in g w h a t ­
e v e r . T h e S e n a to r c a n a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t to t e m p o r a r ily
la y a s id e t h e u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s ; t h a t i s o n e t h in g ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . W o u ld t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o n n e c ti­
c u t p a r d o n t h e C h a ir f o r j u s t o n e m o m e n t?
M r. B R A N D E G E E . I y ie ld to t h e C h a ir .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir i s in d o u b t. U p o n t h e
c a le n d a r u n d e r t h e d a t e o f S e p te m b e r 15, 1 9 1 3 , a p p e a r s t h i s
e n try :
I t Is a g r e e d b y u n a n i m o u s c o n s e n t t h a t o n M o n d a y , D e c e m b e r 8 , 1 9 1 3 ,
im m e d i a t e l y u p o n t h e c o n c l u s i o n o f t h e r o u t i n e m o r n i n g b u s in e s s , t h e
S e n a te w ill p r o c e e d to th e c o n s id e r a t io n o f th e b ill (S . 4 8 ) t o a u t h o r iz e
t h e P r e s id e n t o f th e U n it e d S t a te s t o lo c a t e , c o n s t r u c t , a n a o p e r a t e r a i l ­
r o a d s in A l a s k a , e t c .

O n lo o k in g o v e r t h e C o n g r e ssio n a l R ecord t h e C h a ir fin d s
t h i s to b e t b e r e c o r d :
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b ill (S . 4 8 ) t o a u t h o r iz e th e P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n it e d S t a te s to lo c a t
c o n s t r u c t , a n d o p e r a t e r a i l r o a d s in t h e T e r r i t o r y o f A l a s k a , a n d f<
o t h e r p u r p o s e s , b e m a d e th e u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s f o r M o n d a y , D ecem b e
8 , 1 9 1 3 , a t 2 o ’ c l o c k p. m .
T he P r e s id in g O f f ic e r . I s th e re o b je c tio n ?
M r . B u r t o n . M r . P r e s id e n t , is t h a t th e A la s k a r a il r o a d b i l l ?
M r . C h a m b e r l a i n . I t is .
M r. B u r t o n . W h a t is t h e r e q u e s t o f t h e S e n a t o r f r o m O r e g o n ?

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iUr. J O N E S . W a s it n o t in t h e u n a n im o u s - c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t
t i n t th e h ill sh o u ld h e m a d e t h e u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s a t 2 o c lo c k l
M r. B R A N D E G E E . I h a v e t h e d o o r , X b e lie v e , M r. P r e s id e n t .
I y ie ld e d t o t h e C h a ir .
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II M r 11B R A N D E G E E .
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S e n a to r w h o w ill a d d r e s s t h e C h a ir , i f t h e C h a ir w i l l a s k m e
w h e t h e r o r n o t I y ie ld .
M r. J O N E S . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o n n e c ti­
c u t y i e l d t o t h e S e n a t o r fr o m W a s h in g t o n ?
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s h o w s w h a t m y u n d e r s t a n d in g h a s b e e n a ll t h e t im e , t h a t t h e
a g r e e m e n t w a s t h a t i t s h o u ld b e m a d e t h e u n f in is h e d b u s in e s s
a t 2 o ’c lo c k o n t h is d a y . T h a t is t h e u n a n im o u s - c o n s e n t a g ie e m<^ . ‘ B R A N D E G E E .
I h a v e n o d is p u t e w h a t e v e r w it h th e
S e n a to r ’s u n d e r s ta n d in g . F r o m w h a t t h e O lia ii h a s s a id i t is
a p p a r e n t t h a t t h e r e q u e s t f o r u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t, w h a t e v e r it
w a s a n d w h a t e v e r t h e S e n a to r f r o m O r e g o n h a d in m in d w h e n
h e m a d e it. is n o t th e o n e w h ic h i s s t a t e d o n t h e c a le n d a r .
M r. C H A M B E R L A I N . M a y I in te r r u p t t h e S e n a to r j u s t a
m o m e n t?
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y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O r e g o n ?
M r. B R A N D E G E E . C e r ta in ly .
M r. C H A M B E R L A I N . I m a y s a y t h a t a t t h e t im e t h e u n a n i­
m o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t w a s a s k e d t h e m a t t e r w a s in a w r it t e n
sta tem e n t, a n d I am n o t su re b u t th a t th e S ecreta ry m a y h a v e
it in h i s p o s s e s s io n n o w . I t w a s , h o w e v e r , in w r it in g , a n d w lia t e v e r m a y h a v e g o t te n in to t h e p e r m a n e n t R ecord o f t h e S e n a te
w h ic h s h o w s a d iff e r e n t c o n d itio n o f a f fa ir s , I a m n o t r e s p o n ­
s ib le fo r . I do k n o w t h a t n o t o n ly I b u t o t h e r M e m b e r s o f t h e
S e n a t e h a v e a c t e d o n t h e a s s u m p t io n a l l t h e t im e t h a t it w a s
t h e u n a n im o u s - c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t t h a t t h e b ill s h o u ld b e t a k e n
u p to -d a y .
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e x c e e d in g ly w i s e t h a t e v e r y u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t, or p r o p o s e d
u n a n im o u s -c o n s e n t a g r e e m e n t , s h o u ld b e r e d u c e d to w r it in g
a n d r e p o r te d to th e S e n a te b y t h e S e c r e ta r y , b e c a u s e t h e r e a r e
f r e q u e n t ly m is u n d e r s t a n d in g s a b o u t th e m . W it h o u t h a v in g h a d
a n y p r e v io u s k n o w le d g e t h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m O r e g o n h a d p r e ­
s e n t e d h is r e q u e s t o r ig in a lly in w r it in g , fr o m w lia t t h e C h a ir
lia s r e n d fr o m t h e R e c o r d — w h ic h i s a u t h o r it a t iv e e v id e n c e o f
w h a t h a p p e n e d o n t h e flo o r — i t a p p e a r s t h a t t h e .S e n a t o r f i o m
O r e g o n a s k e d u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t t h a t t h i s b ill b e m a d e t h e
u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s , w h ic h i s n o t a p a r lia m e n t a r y m o tio n k n o w n
in t h i s b o d y a t a ll.
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c o n s id e r a tio n o f a b ill a f t e r t h e e x p ir a t io n o f t w o h o u r s fr o m
t h e t im e t h e S e n a te c o n v e n e s , t h a t , ip s o fa c to , .i f i t p r e v a ils ,
m a k e s t h e m a tt e r t h e u n f in is h e d b u s in e s s ; b u t t h e r e i s n o s u c h
m o tio n , a s I u n d e r s t a n d it , a s t h a t to m a k e a m e a s u r e t h e
u n fin is h e d b u s in e s s . T h e u n f in is h e d b u s in e s s is _ a p a r lia m e n t a r y
s i t u a t io n w h ic h r e s u lt s fr o m s o m e o th e r m o tio n h a v in g b e e n
m a d e a n d c a r r ie d .
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S e n a to r fr o m O r e g o n i s t h a t in a c o llo q u y b e t w e e n h im a n d t h e
S e n a to r fr o m O h io it a p p e a r s , a c c o r d in g to t h e c la im o f t h e
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A la s k a r a ilr o a d b ill a s p e c ia l o r d e r f o r 2 o ’c lo c k o n t h i s d a y ,
w h ic h i s e n t ir e ly in c o n s is te n t w it h w h a t a p p e a r s o n t h e c a lo n d a r — t h a t t h e c o n s id e r a tio n o f i t s h o u ld b e p r o c e e d e d w it h
im m e d ia t e ly u p o n t h e c o n c lu s io n o f t h e r o u t in e m o r n in g b u s i­
n e s s , w h ic h h a s a lr e a d y b e e n c o n c lu d e d .
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m e n ts c o n flic t w it h e a c h o'tlier in p o in t o f t im e a s b e t w e e n h a l f
p a s t 1 0 , w h ic h t h e c lo c k n o w i n d ic a t e s a s t h e h o u r , a n d t h e
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w h a t w a s t h e u n a n im o u s u n d e r s t a n d in g in t h e m in d s o f th e
S e n a to r s p r e s e n t o n t h e 1 5 th d a y o f S e p te m b e r la s t , in t h e
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The VICE PRESIDENT.

Does the Senator from Connecti­

c u t y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O r e g o n ?
M r BRANDEGEE. Yes.
M r. C H A M B E R L A I N .
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say to the Senator that
he has not assisted very much in clarifying what he calls a
“ muddled situation.”

M r B R A N D E G E E . I d id n o t s a y t h a t t h a t w a s m y p u r p o se
M r C H A M B E R L A I N . I t i s e v id e n t t h a t t h a t i s n o t t h e p u r ­
p o s e o f t h e S e n a to r . I t s e e m s to m e, M r. P r e s id e n t , t h a t th e
S e n a t e h a s p o w e r to a r r a n g e f o r t h e d is c u s s io n a n d t h e d e te r ­
m in a t io n o f t h is b ill, i f i t h a s t h e d is p o s it io n ? t o d o s o ; a n d i f
t h e S e n a te n o w f e e l s t h a t it i s a m a tt e r t h a t is p e n d in g b e fo r e
t h e S e n a t e a n d it d e s ir e s to g o a h e a d w i t h it , so f a r a s I am
c o n c e r n e d , I a m r e a d y to g o a h e a d w it h i t n e w ; b u t I a m sim p ly
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t h a t q u e s tio n , b u t p r o p o s e s to l e a v e t h a t to t h e S e n a te .
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M r. C H A M B E R L A I N , M r. P r e s id e n t , m a y I a s k w h e t h e r t h e b e a m a j o r it y fe e lin g ' o f t h e S e n a te . I a m u n w illin g to h a v e
C h a ir f e e ls d is p o s e d to r u le n o w t h a t a t 2 o ’c lo c k t h e A la s k a
t h is b ill lo s e t h e p la c e i t h a s ; b u t i t s e e m s to m e t h a t i f w e
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y ie ld to t lie S e n a to r fr o m M is s o u r i?
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th e S e n a to r ’s a t t e n t io n w a s c a lle d , I o u g h t to d ir e c t h i s t h o u g h t
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T h e c a u s e o f L iz z ie W . T o w n s le y , w id o w o f A r t e m u s D .
T o w n s! e r , v . T h e U n ite d S t a t e s ( S . D o c . N o . 3 0 5 ) ; a n d
T h e c a u s e o f F r a n k J . W a r r e n a n d L ily J . W a r r e n , c h ild r e n
a n d s o le h e ir s o f F it z H e n r y W a r r e n , d e c e a s e d , v . T h e U n ite d
S ta te s (S . D oc. N o. 3 0 6 ).
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e fin d in g s in t h e s e s e v e r a l c a u s e s ,
e x c e p t, I b e lie v e , a s to fo u r , a r e t h a t t h e y a r e n o t le g a l o r e q u ita ­
b le c la im s a g a in s t t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h e U n it e d S ta t e s . I n fo u r
o f t h e c a u s e s t h e c o u r t d e c id e s t h a t t h e y a r e e q u ita b le c la im s
a g a in s t t h e G o v e r n m e n t. T h e C h a ir t h in k s t h e y sh o u ld b e r e ­
ferred'" to t h e C o m m itte e o n C la im s , a n d t h a t a c t io n w i l l b e
ta k e n .
J E N N I E R. W . V O L LM E R V. T H E U N IT E D S T A T E S .

_ T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T l a i d b e fo r e t h e S e n a te a c o m m u n ic a ­
tio n fr o m t h e a s s is t a n t c le r k o f t h e C o u r t o f C la im s, t r a n s m it ­
t in g a c e r tifie d c o p y o f t h e fin d in g s o f f a c t a n d c o n c lu s io n file d
by t h e c o u r t in t h e c a u s e o f J e n n ie It. W . V o llm e r , a d m in is tr a ­
t r ix d e b o n is n o n o f t h e e s t a t e o f M a lb o n e F . W a ts o n , d e c e a s e d ,
v . T h e U n ite d S ta t e s , w h ic h c a u s e w a s r e f e r r e d to t h e c o u r t by
t h e r e s o lu tio n o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s S e n a te u n d e r t h e a c t o f
M arch 3, 1 0 1 1 , k n o w n a s t h e J u d ic ia l C ode.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h is fin d in g o f t h e c o u r t i s t h a t it
is a le g a l c la im . T h e C h a ir b e lie v e s t h a t i t sh o u ld b e r e fe r r e d
to t h e C o m m itte e o n A p p r o p r ia tio n s .
M r. G A L U N G E R . T h a t i s c o r r e c t.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . I t w ill b e so r e fe r r e d .
M r. B R Y A N ,
M r. P r e s id e n t , m a y I in q u ir e o f t h e C h a ir
w h e t h e r t h e r e p o r t o f t h e C o u r t o f C la im s , w h ic h w a s o r d e r e d
r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e o n A p p r o p r ia tio n s , i s a ju d g m e n t o f
t h a t c o u r t o r is i t a s im p le fin d in g t h a t t h e r e i s a le g a l c la im
a g a in s t t h e G o v e r n m e n t ? I f it is a j u d g m e n t, o f c o u r s e i t s h o u ld
go to t h e C o m m itte e o n A p p r o p r ia tio n s ; o t h e r w is e , it s e e m s to
m e, it o u g h t t o b e r e fe r r e d to t h e C o m m itte e on C la im s.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir i s f r a n k to s a y to t h e
S e n a to r fr o m F lo r id a t h a t t h e r e a r e a b o u t 5 0 0 p a g e s , a n d t h is
m a tt e r j u s t c a m e in t h i s m o r n in g .
M r. B R Y A N . I a s k t h a t t h e fin d in g m a y b e r e f e r r e d to th e
C o m m itte e o n C la im s , a n d i f i t i s a ju d g m e n t o f t h e c o u r t, th e n
th a t c o m m it t e e c a n r e p o r t i t b a c k to t h e S e n a te a n d i t c a n b e
se n t to t h e C o m m itte e o n A p p r o p r ia tio n s .
Mr. G A L L IN G E R . M f. P r e s id e n t , I f e e l q u it e s u r e t h a t a ll
fa v o r a b le fin d in g s b y t h e c o u r t r e la t in g t o a n y c la im s s u b m itte d
t ° t h e c o u r t h a v e b e e n r e fe r r e d h e r e t o f o r e t o t h e C o m m itte e on
A p p r o p r ia tio n s . I haAre n o in t e r e s t in it a t a ll— —
M r. B R T S T O W . W ill t h e S e n a to r y ie ld a m o m e n t? I f th e
!)lii s u b m itt in g tlie c la im s to t lie C o u r t o f C la im s a u th o r iz e s
ih e c o u r t to m a k e f in d in g in w h a t e v e r a m o u n t i t m a y t h in k is
d u e a n d r e n d e r a ju d g m e n t a g a in s t t h e U n ite d S ta t e s , t h e n it
g o e s t o t h e C o m m itte e o n A p p r o p r ia tio n s .
M r. G A L L IN G E R .
C e r ta in ly .
M r. B R I S T O W . R u t i f i t i s p u r e ly f o r a fin d in g o f fa c t, i t
c o m es b a c k to t h e C o m m itte e o n C la im s ,
M r. G A L L IN G E R , T h a i is r ig h t.
-M'e \ IC E P R E S I D E N T . T h e r e is a l a r g e n u m b e r o f t h e s e
Jdaims, a n d t h e C h a f f w ill a s k a s a p e r s o n a l f a v o r t h a t S e n a to r s
“O q uainted w it h t h e p r o c e d u r e m a y e x a m in e th e m a n d th e n
a d v is e t h e C h a ir a s to w h a t c o u r s e s h a ll b e ta k e n .
w Mr. B R Y A N . T h a t w a s m y o b je c t in a s k in g t h a t th e y sh o u ld
to t h e C o m m itte e o n C la im s .
T h e n t h a t c o m m it t e e c a n
o p °r t th e m b a c k i f a r e f e r e n c e to t h e C o m m itte e on A p p r o p r ia op s i s t h e p r o p e l c o u r s e , a n d t h e y c a n b e so r e fe r r e d .
1 b e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h a t w ill b e d o n e , th e n .
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j, ^ M e s sa g e fr o ln t h e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s , b y J . C. S o u th ,
1 s b h i e f C le r k , a n n o u n c e d t h a t t h e H o u s e h a d p a s s e d t h e fo lw iu g p p ] a u q j o i n t r e s o lu tio n s , in w h ic h it r e q u e s te d t h e con '-urrence o f t h e S e n a t e :
n M. It. 941 1 . A n a c t r e la t in g to e x p e n d itu r e o f m o n e y r e c e iv e d
1 a c c o u n t o f liq u o r lic e n s e s , W a s h in g t o n M a r k e t Co.,’ a n d fr o m
d ’er s o u r c e s ;
fp , ■J. R e s . 107. J o in t r e s o lu tio n d ir e c t in g t h e S e c r e t a r y o f tlie
I ..d d su r y to . t r a n s f e r $ 1 ,0 0 3 ,2 5 7 .2 4 u p o n h is b o o k s fr o m tlio
Tt TCt
C o lu m b ia to t h e c r e d it o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s ; a n d
i-.
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p a r a g r a p h b y p a r a g r a p h a n d s e c tio n b y s e c tio n .
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th e r e w a s s o m e s u g g e s t io n m a d e h e r e on y e s te r d a y t h a t t h e r e
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c en t: s to c k in t h e s e b a n k s w o u ld n o t b e t r o u b le d w i t h a n y th in g
o f ttia t k in d . •
S o th e r e i s n o o c c a s io n , M r. P r e s id e n t , t o p r o v id e f o r a d iv id e n d
o f 6 p e r c e n t. W h e n y o u p r o v id e f o r a d iv id e n d o f 5 p er c e n t,
w it h im m u n ity fr o m t a x a t io n , a n d m a k e t h a t d iv id e n d c u m u la ­
tiv e , y o u g e t a' s to c k t h a t w ill b e a p r o fita b le in v e s t m e n t, o f w h ic h
t h e p e o p le o f t h i s c o u n tr y w ill b e g la d t o a v a il t h e m s e lv e s .
M r. H IT C H C O C K . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R (M r. C h i l t o n in t h e c h a ir ) .
D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m M in n e s o ta y ie ld t o t h e S e n a to r fr o m
N e b r a sk a ?
M r. N E L S O N . I y ie ld .
M r. H IT C H C O C K . I t i s p o s s ib le t h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m M in ­
n e s o ta p r o p o se s t o p r o c e e d to d is c u s s t h e p o in t to w h ic h I d e s ir e
to c a ll h is a t te n t io n n o w , b u t I w ill t a k e t h e lib e r t y o f in te r -,
r u p tin g him .
M r. N E L S O N . I s h a ll b e v e r y g la d to h e a r t h e S e n a to r .
M r. H IT C H C O C K . I c a ll h is a t te n t io n t o t h e f a c t t h a t o n e
o f th e g r e a t o b je c ts o f t h is le g is la t io n i s to g iv e t o t h e b o r r o w ­
in g p u b lic a lo w r a t e o f i n t e r e s t s im ila r to w h a t p r e v a ils in
E u r o p e , a n d t h a t t h e p r o v is io n in t h e O w e n b ill w h ic h p e r m its
t h e r e s e r v e b a n k s to p a y 6 p e r c e n t u p o n t h e ir c a p it a l sto c k
n e c e s s a r ily in v o lv e s a h ig h e r r a t e o f d is c o u n t to t h e m e m b e r
h a n k s, a n d t h a t h ig h e r r a t e o f d is c o u n t to t h e m e m b e r b a n k s
i n v o lv e s a ls o th e in e v it a b le , r e s u lt t h a t t h e m e m b e r b a n k s w ill
b e r e q u ir e d t o c h a r g e t h e b o r r o w in g p u b lic a h ig h e r r a te o f
in t e r e s t fo r t h e ir lo a n s .
M r. N E L S O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h a t i s u n d o u b te d ly t r u e to th e
f u lle s t e x t e n t.
M r. S H A F R O T H . M r. P r e s id e n t ------M r. N E L S O N . T h a t s im p ly t a l li e s w it h w h a t I s t a t e d y e s t e r ­
d a y in r e s p e c t to t h e p a y m e n t o f in t e r e s t o n G o v e r n m e n t d e ­
p o s its , t h a t w h a t e v e r b u r d e n w e im p o s e o n t h e r e g io n a l b a n k s,
e it h e r in a d d itio n a l d iv id e n d s o r in t h e r e q u ir e m e n t to p a y
in t e r e s t o n G o v e r n m e n t d e p o s its , le s s e n s t h e ir v a lu e a s a id s to
t h e p u b lic a n d t o t h a t e x t e n t m a k e s th e m n e c e s s a r ily m o r e
b u r d e n so m e to th e b o r r o w in g p u b lic .
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m M in n e ­
so ta y ie ld t o t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o ?
M r. N E L S O N . C e r ta in ly .
M r. S H A F R O T I I .
M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e r e f e r e n c e w h ic h w a s
b la d e b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a i s a s u b je c t, i t s e e m s to
toe, w h ic h d o e s n o t c o v e r t h e q u e s t io n h e r e . T h e H o u s e b ill
a s it c a m e o v e r to t h e S e n a te p r o v id e d t h a t th e r e sh o u ld b e a
b p er c e n t d iv id e n d u p o n t h e s to c k , b u t i t p r o v id e d t h a t t h e
b a n k s s h o u ld g e t a p r o fit a f t e r t h e a c c u m u la tio n o f a s u r p lu s
fu n d o f 4 0 p e r c e n t o f t h a t w h ic h i s r e m a in in g .
T h e b a n k e r s a p p e a r e d b e fo r e t h e c o m m itte e a n d s a id t h is
° u g h t n o t to h e a p r o fit-m a k in g b a n k , b u t a s s u r e a s y o u
D a v e in t h e b ill a p r o v is io n t h a t th e r e s h a ll b e a p r o fit g o in g
to tlie b a n k it w i l l h e u s e d a n d o p e r a te d a s a p r o fit-p a y in g in ­
s titu tio n , w h ic h w ill b e lik e ly to p r o d u c e h ig h r a t e s o f in te r e s t
to r th e p u r p o se o f m a k in g t h i s 4 0 p e r c e n t a s la r g e a s p o ss ib le .
E or t h a t r e a s o n th e b a n k e r s s u g g e s t e d t h a t th e r e sh o u ld b e no
h rofits c o in iu g to th e b a n k , t h a t t h e a m o u n t w h ic h th e y a r e g e t ­
tin g f o r t h e ir lo a n s o n th e a v e r a g e in t h e U n ite d S t a t e s w a s 6
per c e n t, a n d t h a t i f 6 p e r c e n t w e r e a llo w e d it w o u ld h e p erto c tly a g r e e a b le to th e m t h a t t h e p r o fit s h o u ld b e c u t d o w n .
W e b e lie v e t h a t in c u t t in g o u t th e p ro fit, a s w e h a v e d o n e in
th e O w en b ill, t h e r e s u lt w ill b e t h a t t h is r e s e r v e b a n k sto ck ,
0r th e b a n k i t s e l f w i l l n o t b e r u n f o r a p ro fit, a n d fo r t h a t
toa son it w o u ld b e to t h e a d v a n ta g e o f t h e p e r s o n w h o p r e ­
se n ted p a p e r fo r d is c o u n t t h a t th e r e s h o u ld b e n o t a g r e a t
an io u n t g iv e n t o h im , a n d t h e 1 p e r c e n t o f t h e s to c k it s e l f
tvouiq b e n o th in g c o m p a r e d to t h e a d v a n ta g e w h ic h h e w o u ld
g e t by r e a s o n o f n o t m a k in g t h i s a p r o fit-m a k in g b a n k .
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Seerus to u s w h e n w e c u t o u t t h a t t h a t w e o f n e c e s s it y g iv e
to e v e r y m e m b e r b a n k d e a lin g w i t h t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e h a n k
to e a d v a n ta g e o f n o t h a v in g p r o fits a c c u m u la te f o r th e b a n k
to r th e p u r p o se o f b e in g d iv id e d a m o n g th e m e m b e r b a n k s. F o r
'h a t r e a s o n it s e e m s to m e to b e a b e tte r p r o v is io n t h a n th e
P ro v isio n o f t h e b ill a s it c a m e fr o m t h e H o u s e .
M r. N E L S O N . M r. P r e s id e n t, m y g o o d fr ie n d , t h e S e n a to r
from C o lo ra d o , s e e m s to b e o b liv io u s to t h e f a c t t h a t u n d e r
t o e p r o v is io n s o f t h e G la s s a n d O w e n b ills th e b a n k s a r e c o m ­
p e lle d to s u b s c r ib e f o r t h i s s to c k . T h e y a r e t h e o n ly sto c k to to lers. T h e y a r e t h e o n ly o n e s w h o w i l l g e t th e d iv id e n d s .
W h ile h e c h o p s o ff o n o n e h a n d 4 0 p e r c e n t o f t h e G la s s b ill, h e
'f id s i p e r c e n t o f t h e c u m u la t iv e d iv id e n d o n th e o th e r sid e ,
*■ TW e x a c t ly to t h e s a m e so u r c e .
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.P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m M in n eUl
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M r. N E L S O N . C e r ta in ly .
M r. H IT C H C O C K . I t is r e a lly n o t a q u e s tio n b e t w e e n t h e
G la ss -O w e n b ill a n d t h e H o u s e h ill. T h e H o u s e b ill h a s b e e n
p r a c t ic a lly e lim in a t e d a s f a r a s t h is p r o v is io n i s c o n c e r n e d .
T h e r e a l q u e s tio n b e fo r e t h e S e n a te i s w h e t h e r t h e s e r e s e r v e
b a n k s s h a ll b e r e q u ir e d to p a y 6 p e r c e n t to t h e s to c k h o ld e r s
o r 5 p e r c e n t. I f t h e y a r e r e q u ir e d to p a y 6 p e r c e n t, t h e y m u s t
in c r e a s e th e r a t e o f d is c o u n t to t h e m e m b e r b a n k s, a n d i f th e y
in c r e a s e t h e r a te o f d is c o u n t to t h e ir m e m b e r b a n k s t h e m e m b e r
b a n k s m u s t r a is e t h e r a t e o f in t e r e s t to t h e b o r r o w in g p u b lic .
T h a t is t h e q u e stio n .
M r. S H A F R O T H a n d M r. O W E N a d d r e s s e d t h e C h a ir.
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s tire S e n a to r fr o m M in ­
n e s o t a y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ?
M r. N E L S O N . I w ill y ie ld to t h e c h a ir m a n o f th e c o m m it t e e
i f t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o w ill a llo w m e.
M r. S H A F R O T H . C e r t a in ly ; I y ie ld to t h e c h a ir m a n
M r. O W E N . M r .-P r e s id e n t, I w is h to s u g g e s t to t h e S e n a to r
t h a t u n d e r t h e H itc h c o c k p r o p o sa l t h e r e w o u ld b e a d r a f t u p o n
t h e e a r n in g s o f t h e s e b a n k s o f $ 5 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 , t h e d iv id e n d d is t r ib u ­
tio n b e in g 5 p e r c e n t u p on $ 1 0 0 ,0 0 0 .0 0 a p p r o x im a t e ly .
U n d e r th e p la n p r o p o se d b y t h e c h a ir m a n o f t h e c o m m it t e e
th e r e w o u ld b e a d r a f t u p o n t h e s y s t e m o f o n ly $ 3 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0
in s t e a d o f $5,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 , b y a d iv id e n d o f 6 p er c e n t o n $ 5 0 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0
a p p r o x im a te ly . I t w a s t h e d e lib e r a t e p u r p o se to m a k e a s s m a ll
a d r a f t a s p o s s ib le in t h e w a y o f d iv id e n d s o n t h e e a r n in g s o f
t h e s e b a n k s. T h a t i s t h e r e a s o n w h y th e c a p it a l w a s d im in ­
is h e d . T h e d iffe r e n c e , t h e r e f o r e , in f a v o r o f th e d r a f t u p o n t h e
e a r n in g p o w e r o f t h e s e b a n k s i s in f a v o r o f tb e p r o p o sa l m a d e
b y t h e c h a ir m a n a n d n o t in f a v o r o f t h e p r o p o sa l m a d e b y t h e
S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a .
. M r. H IT C H C O C K . M r. P r e s id e n t ____
M r. N E L S O N . I f th e S e n a to r w ill a llo w m e, I w ill s a y to
t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a t h a t w e c a n o n ly a r r iv e a t t h a t
m a th e m a tic a l c o n c lu s io n o n t h e t h e o r y t h a t t h e r e g io n a l r e s e r v e
b a n k s w h ic h h e p r o p o s e s to e s t a b lis h a r e sm a ll I n s t it u t io n s ,
m u c h s m a lle r t h a n t h e i n s t it u t io n s c o n te m p la te d b y w h a t i s
c a lle d t h e H itc h c o c k h ill. U n d e r t h e c h a ir m a n ’s b ill o n e o f
t h e s e r e g io n a l b a n k s c a n b e e s ta b lis h e d w it h a su b s c r ib e d c a p ­
it a l o f $ 3 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 , a n d h a l f o f t h a t i s to b e p a id in t h r e e
in s t a llm e n t s , a n d th e o th e r h a l f i s to r e m a in a lia b ilit y . T h e
r e g io n a l b a n k s, u n d e r b is s y s t e m , c a n a c t u a lly s to p b u s in e s s
w h e n o n e - s ix t h o f t h e s u b s c r ib e d c a p it a l h a s b een p a id in . o r
t h e y c a n s ta r t, in o th e r w o r d s , w it h a c a p it a l o f o n ly $ 5 0 0 ,0 0 0 .
W h a t do y o u th in k , c o n s id e r in g t h e o th e r b ig b a n k s o f t h e
c o u n tr y , o f s t a r t in g a p ic a y u n e r e g io n a l b a n k w it h o n ly $ 5 0 0 ,0 0 0
c a p it a l, in t h e fir st in s t a n c e , a n d w it h a m a x im u m o f $ 3 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 ?
I t i s n o w o n d e r t h a t m en a r e p in in g to h a v e s u c h b a n k s e s t a b ­
lis h e d in t h e ir lo c a lit ie s , lo c a lit ie s th a t a r e n o t e v e n in t h e c la s s
o f r e s e r v e c it i e s u n d e r t h e p r e s e n t a r r a n g e m e n t.
■ M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m M in n e ­
s o ta y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ?
M r. N E L S O N . I w ill s a y in c id e n t a lly in t h is c o n n e c tio n t h a t
I a m p rou d o f t h e f a c t t h a t w h ile w e h a v e in t h e S t a t e o f
M in n e so ta t w o la r g e c it ie s in c lo s e p r o x im ity , t h e s u b u r b s o f
o n e r u n n in g in to th e su b u r b s o f t h e o ilie r , w it h a b a n k c a p it a l
la r g e e n o u g h to m a k e a r e s p e c ta b le r e s e r v e b a n k , y e t t b e p e o p le
o f M in n e so ta a n d t h e b a n k e r s o f M in n e s o ta h a v e t h e g o o d s e n s e
n o t to -clam or f o r a r e s e r v e h a n k .
I n o w y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a .
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e S e n a to r w a s c o m p a r in g v e r y
u n fa v o r a b ly t h e d iffe r e n c e in t h e m a g n it u d e o f t h e F e d e r a l s y s ­
te m u n d er t h e o n e p la n or t h e o th e r a n d a r g u in g t h a t u n d e r th e
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e n c e b e tw e e n t h e H itc h c o c k a m e n d m e n t, so c a lle d , a n d t lie O w e n
a m e n d m e n t, so c a lle d , a s to t h e s iz e o f th e c a p it a l t o b e e m ­
p lo y e d i s t h a t w h ile t h e r e s e r v e s a r e t h e s a m e a n d t h e p u b lic
f u n d s d e p o s ite d a r e t h e sa m e , a m o u n tin g to a b o u t $ 0 0 0 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0
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is $ 50,000,000 o f b a n k s u b s c r ib e r s w it h d o u b le lia b ilit y , a n d in
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t h o r iz e t h e s a m e b a n k in g i n t e r e s t s to n o m in a t e a n d e le c t a w h a t i t d c j g p a n d t h a t is w h e r e t h e d is c r e tio n i s v e s t e d . YvTien,
h o w e v e r , t h e y go to t h e q u e s t io n o f f ix in g a r a t e o f d is c o u n t!
m a j o r it y o f t h e b o a r d ?
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a n d f o r t h e p e o p le in g e n e r a l, t h e p o w e r s o f t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e
th e S e n a to r , i f h e w i l l y ie ld to m e.
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b a u f c f n a y p e r p e t r a t e a r e s u b j e c t to r e v ie w in t h a t b o d y.
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t h a t e v e n t. T h a t is t h e r e a s o n .
I t i s lik e a n a t io n a l b a n k . S u p p o s e t h e la w s o f t h e p r e s e n t h a v e n o s u c h t h in g a s a d is c o u n t m a r k e t, b y r e a s o n o f t h e f a c t
t im e w i t h r e la t io n to n a t io n a l b a n k s h a d p r e s c r ib e d . t h a t a t h a t w e s h o u ld n o t h a v e a n y b a n k e r s w h o w o u ld c o m e in to a
m a j o r it y o f t h e d ir e c t o r s o f a n a t io n a l b a n k s h o u ld b e a p ­ s y s t e m o f t h a t k in d .
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p o in te d b y t h e G o v e r n m e n t; w o u ld t h e r e e v e r b a y ^ b e e n a
t a k e n b y t h e S e n a to r f r o m C o lo r a d o , h is c o m m it t e e w o u ld
n a t io n a l b a n k f o r m e d ?
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t h e r e , w h e n w e h a v e o u r r e s e r v e s t h e r e , w e h a v e a ' r i g h t to h a v e t h e y c o n tr o l i t ; b e c a u s e t h e y c o n tr o l i t s d is c o u n t s ; b e c a u s e
c o n tr o l o f t h e b o a r d t h a t p a s s e s u p o n t h e p a p e r # h d d e t e r m in e s t h e s e r e g io n a l b a n k s c a n s a y to o n e b a n k in o n e c o m m u n it y :
“ Y o u r p a p e r d o e s n o t s u i t u s ; t h e r e f o r e w e w i l l g iv e y o u n o
u p o n t h e p o lic y w it h r e la t io n to t h e a m o u n t s to b e lo a n e d .”
W h e n e v e r y o u s a y t h a t s o m e b o d y n o t in t e r e s t e d s h a ll c o n tr o l c u r r e n c y ; w e w i l l n o t d is c o u n t y o u r b ills ,” w h ile to a n o t h e r
t lio s e a m o u n t s , i t w i l l b e t a n t a m o u n t to a b s o lu t e ly d e s t r o y in g b a n k in t h e s a m e c o m m u n it y t h e y c a n s a y : “ W e w ill d is c o u n t
t h e s y s t e m , b e c a u s e n o b a n k s w i l l c o m e in to it . T h a t i s t h e y o u r b ills b e c a u s e t h e y c o n fo r m to o u r n o t io n s .”
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r e a s o n i t s h o u ld n o t b e d o n e , in m y ju d g m e n t.
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o f o n e o f t h e s e r e s e r v e b a n k s c o n t r o lle d b y t h e G o v e r n m e n t a n d
t h i s g r e a t r e g io n a l r e s e r v e s y s t e m s h o u ld b e in d e p e n d e n t o f
n o t c o n t r o lle d b y t h e b a n k s t h a t p u t ‘t h e m o n e y th e r e . I am
s e lfis h c o n t r o l o r m o n o p o lis tic c o m b in a t io n s , t h a t t h e p e o p le
a w a r e t h a t I h a v e t a k e n t h e p o s it io n f r o m t h e v e r y s t a r t t h a t
sh o u ld o w n i t s s t o c k a n d t h a t t h e G o v e r n m e n t s h o u ld a p p o in t
th e r e s h o u ld n o t b e e v e n a b u n k t # u p o n t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e
b o a r d . I h a v e d o n e t h a t b e c a u s e R ie r e a r e c e r t a in g o v e r n m e n ta l a m a j o r it y o f i t s d ir e c to r s , w e a r e d e n o u n c e d b e c a u s e w e a r e
p o w e r s t o b e e x e r c is e d t h e r e ; buJaF s t o t h e a d m in is t r a t io n o f th e t a k in g fr o m t h e b a n k s t h e c o n tr o l o f t h e s y s t e m w h ic h c o n t r o ls
t h e c r e d it o f t h e c o u n tr y .
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T h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o a d m it s e v e r y in d ic t m e n t I h a v e
a r e s u b s c r ib e d b y t h e b a n k s , i t s e e m s t o m e y o u m ig h t j u s t a s
m a d e a g a in s t t h e b ill f o r w h ic h h e s t a n d s . H e a d m it s t h a t i t
w e ll s a v t o a n a t io n a l b a n k , * Y o u c a n n o t o r g a n iz e a n a tio n a l
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b a n k s o f t h e c o u n tr y t h e c o n t r o l o f t h a t m o n o p o ly f o r t h e m t o
t h e G o v e r n m e n t.”' T h e r e i # m u c h m o r e r e a s o n f o r t h e G o v e r n ­
u s e f o r t h e ir p r o fit a n d in t h e ir in t e r e s t .
m e n t h a v in g a m a j o r it y o p h e d i r e c t o r s in a n a tio n a l b a n k m a n
M r. S H A F R O T H . M r. P r e s id e n t , w it h d u e d e f e r e n c e to t h e
t h e r e w o u ld b e in o n e o f j t h e s e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s , b e c a u s e a
p o s itio n o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s , I d o n o t d o a n y t h i n g o f
n a tio n a l b a n k d e a l s w i m o t h e r p e o p le ’s m o n e y . T h e n a tio n a l t h e k in d . W e h a v e in o u r b ill c e r t a in s a f e g u a r d s t h a t m a k e it
b a n k i s t h e o n e t h a t ta lc e s in $ W o f t h e p e o p le ’s m o n e y to
p r e e m in e n tly a p u b lic -g u a r d e d b ill.
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o f i t s o w n . T h e G o jfe r n m e n t m ig h t, w e ll s a y , “ I n a s m u c h a s
th e d ir e c t o r s o f t h e r e s e r v e b a n k . W e fin d t h a t w e h a v e t h r e e
th e p e o p le o f t h i s c o u n tr y a r e in t e r e s t e d , t h e r e f o r e w e w i l l r e ­ o f t h e d ir e c t o r s a p p o in t e d to t h e m e m b e r s h ip o f t h e F e d e r a l
q u ir e t h a t a m a j o r it y o f t h e d ir e c t o r s s h a ll b e a p p o in t e d b y t h e
r e s e r v e b a n k b y t h e G o v e r n m e n t, o r b y t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e
G o v e r n m e n t ” N o r W h c la im c a n b e m a d e , h o w e v e r , a s to a
b o a r d . T h e y a r e t h e r e t o w a t c h t h in g s . T h e y a r e t h e r e to a c t
F e d e r a l b a n k . T h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k h a s s im p ly go* t h e
w it h r e la t io n to t h e b a n k in g s y s t e m in i t s p o lic y . I n a d d it io n to
d e p o s it s o f t h e h a n k s t h e m s e lv e s a n d t h e c a p it a l o f t h e b a n k s
t h a t , t h e y a r e to a c t s o m e w h a t a s t h e C o m p tr o lle r o f t h e C u r ­
t h e m s e lv e s . I f y o u d e p r iv e t h e m o f c o n tr o l, y o u w i l l h im t h a t
r e n c y n o w a c t s w it h r e la t io n to t h e n a t io n a l b a n k s o f t h e c o u n ­
n o t a s in g le b a n k w i l l c o m e in to t h e s y s t e m .
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t h e ir o w n f o r b u s in e s s in t h e ir o w n li n e a s b a n k e r s ;
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s y s t e m i f t h e H it c h c o c k b ill i s a d o p te d .
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t r y a n d a g r ic u lt u r e . T h o s e t h r e e a r e r e m o v a b le b y t h e F e d e r a l
t r o lle d b y w h a t a b a n k s a y s ; b u t, a s a m a t t e r o f f a c t , th e r e w a s
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s c r ib e d b y t h e b a n k s in s t e a d o f b y th e 'p e o p le .
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to t a k e t h e s to c k , t h e r e m a y h e c o n s id e r a b le f o r c e in t h e p o s i­
t io n t a k e n b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o . A s I u n d e r s t a n d it
t h e B a n k o f E n g la n d i s n o t c o n t r o lle d b y b a n k s , n o r a r e th e
b a n k s o f o t h e r c o u n tr ie s . T h is b a n k w ill n o t b e in t h e c o n tr o l
o f o t h e r h a n k s . A s I u n d e r s t a n d it , i t s d e p o s it s w i l l b e th e
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m a y c o m e fr o m a n y p a r t o f t h e c o u n t i j .
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p e o p le s h o u ld n o t p u t t lie ir c a p it a l in to t h a t b a n k . T h a t b e in g
a n s w e r e d in f a v o r o f t h e p e o p le b a l i n g t h e I n s t r ig h t t o ta k e
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y ie ld to t lie S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ?
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t h a t t h e s t o c k s h o u ld b e h e ld b y t h e m e m b e r b a n k s w a s fo r th e
p r im a r y r e a s o n s t a t e d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m C o lo r a d o , t h a t th e s e
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c a u s e t h e y h a d n o w a y o f g e t t in g in s t a n t l y w h e n n e c e s s a r y
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s y s te m i s to p r o v id e a m e a n s b y w h ic h t h e p e o p le ’s b a n k s can
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m o n e y e a s i ly a n d r e a d ily to t h e ir c u s t o m e r s , t lie ir d e p o s ito r s
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th e y h a v e t h e r ig h t to e le c t a n y d ir e c to r s o f t h e F e d e r a l r e ­
s e r v e b a n k s s im p ly b e c a u s e t h e y a r e r e q u ir e d to m a k e r e s e r v e
d e p o s it s th e r e ?
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n s in c o n s id e r in g t h i s m a tte r . W e a r e t r y in g t o b u ild a s y s t e m
t h a t w i l l s u c c e e d a n d s ta n d . W e a r e t r y in g to b u ild a s y s te m
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p o lic y . W e c o u ld h a v e a g r e a t G o v e r n m e n t b a n k . W e c o u ld
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to m a k e a s u c c e s s o f a G o v e r n m e n t b a n k o w n e d b y t h e G o v e r n ­
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t h e y a r e c h a r g e d w it h t h e c o n tr o l o f t h e c r e d it o f t h e c o u n tr y . t h e g r e a t e s t im p o r ta n c e w h e t h e r o r n o t t h e r e i s a lo s s .
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M r. C U M M I N S . M r. P r e s id e n t - — \
o f t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k t h a t a m a jo r it y o f t h e d ir e c t o r s
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e \ S e n a t o r fr o m M a s sa c lm .
s h a ll b e s e le c te d l>v 1lie m e m b e r b a n k s, b e c a u s e i t d e a ls w it h
s e t t s y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a ? *
t h e ir m o n e y a n d d e n is w it h t h e ir c a p it a l, a n d b e c a u s e a n y o th e r
M r. W E E K S . I y ie ld to t h e S e n a t o r fr o m I o w a .
ten i w o u ld n o t b e a d h e r e d to n o r w o u ld it h e a c c e p t a b le m
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•utv w a v to t h e h a n k s n o r c o u ld t h e y b e f o r c e d t o c o m e in to
c o r r e c t, w h y n o t m a k e t h e b ill f o r w h i\-li h e s t a n d s o p tio n a l
t i n t s y s te m .
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a n d a llo w t h e n a tio n a l b a n k s to t a k e s t a c k , i f t h e y s o d e sir e ’
a ll q u e s t io n s w h e r e th e G o v e r n m e n t h a s an o p p o r tu n ity to
a n d t h u s p a r t ic ip a t e in t h e a f f a i r s o f t h e f e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s’
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b u t d e a lin g w it h t h e q u e s tio n o f t h e a m o u n t o f “ o n e y , t h e a c c o r d a n c e w it h t h e v ie w t a k e n b y t h e H itc h c o c k b ill? i f th e y
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o f th o c o n d itio n s in N e w Y o r k C ity w h e r e c o m b in a t io n s h a v e
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b e e n m a d e , a n d it w a s f o r t h e p u r p o se o f p e r m itt in g a n y b a n k ,
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w h e t h e r a b a n k in a n o th e r c it y o r a b a n k in N e w Y o rk , g o in g
t a k e It, in o r d e r to p r e v e n t a f a i lu r e o f t h e s y s t e m i t s e l f i t w iq
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s c r ib e d b y t h e p e o p le a n d t h e la w f o r c in g t h e b a n k s t o d e p o s it
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o f t h e b o a r d o f d ir e c t o r s a n d m a k in g m o n e y o u t o f t h e r e s e r v e s
g o e s , is n o t e n t ir e ly c o m p le te . Y o u r b ill r e q u ir e s e v e r y 4n a tio n a l
o f (lie b a n k f o r t h e b e n e fit o f t h e s t o c k h o ld e r s w h o a r e n o t t h e
b a n k to t a k e c a p it a l s to c k in t h e F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k e q u a l to
h a n k . T h a t is a c o n d itio n o f a f f a ir s t h a t s h o w s i t i s a n in c o n ­
t h e a m o u n t .of i t s c a p it a l a n d s u r p lu s . I f i t r e f u s e s to d o so,
s is t e n t s y s te m . I t m a y b e a ll r ig h t i f y o u w a n t t o o r g a n iz e a
or f a i l s to d o s o , i t f o r f e it s t h e c h a r t e r o f t h a t n a t io n a l hank.
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M r S H A F R O T H . I w ill s t a t e , in a n s w e r to t h e S e n a to r , th a t
tlm t it w ill n o t c o m e in t o t h is s y s t e m i f t h i s s e c tio n o f t h e O w e n
t h e n a t i o n a l -b a n k la w o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s c o n t a in s a p ro v isio n
b ill i s a d h e r e d to . I w ill s t a t e t h a t a ll t h e h e a r in g s w e r e h a d
t h a t a ll p a r t s o f t h e a c t c a n b e r e p e a le d a t t h e w i l l o f C on gress.
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t h e s e le c tio n o f s ix o f t h e n in e d ir e c t o r s
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t h e flo o r a n d 17 R e p u b lic a n s ; a t 8 .5 0 th e r e w e r e 1 2 D e m o c r a t s
on t h e flo o r a n d 18 R e p u b lic a n s ; a t 9 o ’c lo c k t h e r e w e r e 1 3
D e m o c r a t s o n t h e flo o r a n d 17 R e p u b lic a n s ; a t 9 .1 0 o ’c lo c k th e r e
w e r e 14 D e m o c r a t s o n t h e flo o r a n d 1 3 R e p u b lic a n s ; a n d a t 9.20
t h e r e w e r e 23 D e m o c r a t s o n t h e flo o r a n d 1 7 R e p u b lic a n s .
T h e r e h a s n o t b e e n a q u o r u m p r e s e n t s in c e t h e S e n a te c o n v e n e d
t o -n ig h t; th e r e i s n o t a q u o r u m p r e s e n t n o w , a n d I m a k e t h e
p o in t o f n o q u o r u m .
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S e n a to r fr o m S o u th C a r o lin a [M r. T i l l m a n ] i s c a u s e d b y
illn e s s .
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M r. J A M E S .
M y c o lle a g u e [M r. B r a d l e y ] i s u n a v o id a b ly
a b s e n t. H e h a s a g e n e r a l p a ir w it h t h e j u n io r S e n a to r fr o m
I n d ia n a [M r. K e r n ] .
M r. S M O O T . I d e s ir e t o a n n o u n c e t h a t t h e s e n io r S e n a to r
fr o m N o r th D a k o t a [ M r . M c C c m b e k ] i s u n a v o id a b ly d e t a in e d
fr o m the" S e n a te .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . S ix ty - t h r e e S e n a to r s h a v e a n s w e r e d
to t h e r o ll c a ll. T h e r e i s a q u o r u m p r e s e n t.
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , d u r in g t h e l a s t 1 0 d a y s S e n a to r s
on t h e o p p o s it e s id e o f t h e a i s l e h a v e f r e q u e n tly m a d e it a m a t ­
t e r o f e n t e r t a in m e n t to b e m a k in g t h e p o in t o f n o q u o r u m fo r
t h e o b v io u s p u r p o se o f d e la y in g a n d w a s t in g tim e . I t is p e r ­
f e c t ly w e ll k n o w n t o e v e r y S e n a to r w h o h a s m a d e t h e p o in t o f
n o q u o r u m t h a t t h e M e m b e r s o f t h i s b o d y a r e in t h e c lo a k r o o m
or in t h e im m e d ia t e v ic in it y i f t h e y a r e n o t o n t h e floor.^ I b e ­
lie v e it h a s o n ly o c c u r r e d o n c e , o r p e r h a p s t w ic e , t h a t i t to o k
so m e m in u t e s to o b ta in a q u o r u m . T h e c o u n tr y m ig h t a s w e ll
o b se r v e w h a t t h e m e a n in g o f t h i s is , a n d I w is h to e a ll t h e a t ­
t e n tio n o f t h e c o u n tr y to t h e a t t it u d e o f S e n a to r s w h o a r e
w a s t in g t h e t im e o f t h is b o d y .
M r. B R I S T O W . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
y ie ld to t h e S e u a to r fr o m K a n s a s ?
M r. O W E N . I d e c lin e to b e in te r r u p te d , M r. P r e s id e n t.
M r. B R I S T O W . I t h o u g h t t h e S e n a to r w o u ld in m a k in g su c h
r e m a r k s a s th o s e .
M r. O W E N .
Y e s ; I d o ; e s p e c ia lly b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m
Kansas, w h o s e la c k o f self-restraint h a s b e e n so o b v io u s.
T h e C o n g r e s s o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s h a s a v a s t w o r k to p e r ­
fo r m . T h is c u r r e n c y b ill i s o n ly a p a r t o f i t ; t h e t a r if f b ill w a s
o n ly a p a r t o f it. U n d e r t h e h e a d o f c u r r e n c y m a tt e r s w e h a v e
s t ill m a n y o th e r t h in g s w h ic h a r e n e c e s s a r y to b e d o n e b y C on ­
g r e s s. W e s h o u ld h a v e a c o d ific a tio n o f t h e n a tio n a l b a n k a c t s ;
We sh o u ld h a v e l a w s p a s s e d c o n t r o llin g t h e a b u s e s , t h e o u tr a g e s ,
o f t h e v a r io u s s t o c k e x c h a n g e s , o f t h e e x c h a n g e s t h a t g a m b le
w ith fo o d p r o d u c ts , w it h a g r ic u lt u r a l p r o d u c ts , a n d h e lp to fix
h ig h p r ic e s u p o n t h is c o u n tr y . W e sh o u ld p a s s la w s t h a t a r e
n e c e s s a r y t o c o n tr o l t h e a b u s e s o f t h e c le a r in g h o u s e s .
W e sh o u ld p a s s la w s p r o h ib itin g in te r lo c k in g d ir e c to r a te s ,
w h ic h c o n tr o l b a n k in g s y s t e m s a n d t r u s t c o m p a n ie s a n d g r e a t
in d u s t r ia l c o m p a n ie s a n d r a ilw a y s , lin k e d to g e th e r on a g ig a n ­
tic s c a le a n d t h u s m a k in g e f fe c tiv e p r iv a t e m o n o p o ly .
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o u g h t to p a s s la w s e s t a b lis h in g a n a g r ic u lt u r a l c r e d it s y s te m
in t h is c o u n tr y , a m a tt e r o f t h e m o s t s e r io u s im p o r ta n c e in
p r o m o tin g t h e fo o d p r o d u c ts o f t h is N a t io n a n d in p r o m o tin g
t h e p r o d u c tio n o f t h e r a w m a t e r ia ls w h ic h c o m e o u t o f t h e so il.
W e o u g h t to p a s s t h e n e c e s s a r y m e a s u r e s w h ic h w ill c o n tr o l t h e
a b u s e s o f p r iv a t e m o n o p o ly in t h is c o u n tr y , a n d y e t d a y a f t e r
d a y i s w a s t e d b y id le t a lk u p o n t h e flo o r o f t h e S e n a te a n d b y
c a ll a f t e r c a ll fo r a q u o r u m , w h e n it i s p e r f e c t ly w e ll k n o w n
t h a t a q u o r u m w ill im m e d ia t e ly r e s p o n d to t h e r o ll c a ll. W e
o u g h t t o p a s s l a w s s o lv in g t h e p r o b le m o f t h e h ig h c o s t o f liv in g ,
w h ic h i s m a k in g t h e o r d in a r y c it iz e n o f t h i s c o u n tr y tr e m b le
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M r. G A L L IN G E R . W e t h o u g h t t h e t a r iff w a s g o in g to d o
th a t.
M r. O W E N . W e o u g h t to p a s s la w s p r o v id in g f o r g o o d r o a d s
in t h is c o u n tr y ; w e o u g h t to p a s s la w s p r o v id in g fo r t h e d e ­
v e lo p m e n t o f o u r n a t io n a l w a t e r w a y s . I h a v e so m e o th e r t h in g s
to p r e s e n t w h ic h t h i s C o n g r e s s o u g h t to c o n s id e r a n d a c t o n , a n d
1 p r o p o se to p la c e t h e m in t h e R e c o r d n o w f o r t h e in fo r m a t io n
o f t h e c o u n tr y — n o t f o r t h e in fo r m a t io n o f t h e S e n a te , fo r t h e
S e n a te k n o w s p e r f e c t ly w e ll w h a t t h e y a r e . W e o u g h t to p a s s
a la w e s t a b lis h in g a n in d e p e n d e n t b u r e a u o f p u b lic h e a lt h to
p r o te c t t h e p u b lic h e a lt h o f t h is c o u n tr y , w h ic h n o w i s sim p ly
u n d e r t h e j u r is d ic t io n o f a b r a n c h o f t h e T r e a s u r y D e p a r tm e n t,
r e la t iv e ly o b sc u r e , s m o th e r e d , in e f fe c t iv e , a lt h o u g h n o t w it h o u t
m u c h v a lu e . W e o u g h t to p a s s la w s p r o t e c t in g c h ild la b o r in
t h i s c o u n tr y ; w e o u g h t to p a s s a p r o p e r e m p lo y e e s ’ in s u r a n c e
s y s t e m ; w e o u g h t to p a s s p r o p e r la w s f o r t h e c o m p e n s a t io n o f
w o r k m e n ; w e o u g h t t o p a s s la w s e s t a b lis h in g p r o p e r s a f e t y
a p p lia n c e s a n d s t e e l c a r s o n t h e r a ilw a y s y s t e m s o f t h e c o u n t r y ;
w e o u g h t to p a s s a la w f o r t h e “ p r o b a tio n o f c o n v i c t s ” f o r {lie
b e n e fit o f y o u n g m e n w h o a r e c o n v ic t e d fo r t h e fir s t tim e , y o u n g
m e n w h o a r e s e n t t o t h e ir r u in b y t h e c r u e l h a n d o f s o c ie ty , b e ­
c a u s e t h e y m a k e a s in g le m is ta k e .
Y e a r a f t e r y e a r I h a v e t r ie d to s e c u r e t h e p a s s a g e o f s u c h a
b ill th r o u g h th e S e n a te , a n d h a v e m a d e n o p r o g r e s s . "We o u g h t
to h a v e c o ld -s to r a g e l e g is la t io n ; w e o u g h t to h a v e le g is la t io n * to
b r in g a b o u t p u r e f a b r ic s a n d h o n e s t m e a s u r e s o f g o o d s t h a t a r e
s o ld to o u r p e o p le ; w e o u g h t to h a v e a b e t te r s y s t e m f o r t h e
p ro p er c o n tr o l o f r a ilw a y r a t e s ; w e o u g h t to h a v e a b e t te r s y s ­
te m fo r t h e c o n tr o l o f t h e i s s u e o f s t o c k a n d b o n d s, so t h a t t h e
p e o p le o f t h is c o u n tr y m a y n o t b e u n f a ir ly t a x e d b y t h e is s u e
o f f r a u d u le n t w a t e r e d s e c u r it ie s ; w e o u g h t to e s t a b lis h v o c a ­
t io n a l e d u c a tio n in t h is c o u n tr y , so a s t o t e a c h t h e b o y s a n d
g ir ls , t h e y o u n g m e n a n d w o m e n , o f t h is c o u n tr y h o w to m a k e a
liv in g .
H o w s h a ll w e e v e r c o n s id e r t h e s e t h in g s w h e n d a y a f t e r d a y
i s u s e d u p in id le d e b a te , w it h o u t a n y e c o n o m y w h a t e v e r o f t h e
t im e o f t h e S e n a te ? T h a t i s t h e r e a s o n w h y t h e s e s e a t s o f
S e n a to r s a r e v a c a te d . I t i s b e c a u s e S e n a to r s w h o h a v e m a d e u p
t h e ir m in d s , h a v e s t u d ie d t h e q u e s tio n , d o n o t w a n t to s t a y a
w h o le w e e k lis t e n in g to a d e b a te w h ic h n o lo n g e r i n s t r u c t s o r
in te r e s t s . T h a t i s e v id e n t ly t h e r e a s o n w h y S e n a to r s v a c a t e
t h e ir s e a t s — b e c a u s e t h e d e b a te o n t h e floor o f t h e S e n a te h a s
becom e a fa rce.
W e o u g h t to e s ta b lis h p o s t a l te le g r a p h s a n d p o s ta l t e le p h o n e s
c h e a p a n d a t t h e c o n v e n ie n t s e r v ic e o f t h e p e o p le in s t e a d o f a
m o n o p o ly c o n tr o lle d b y a f e w m e n u n fa ir ly t a x in g t h e p e o p le
a n d g iv in g th e m in d iff e r e n t a n d p o o r se r v ic e .
T h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s o u g h t t o o w n p la n ts
fo r m a k in g it s o w n a r m o r p la te , f o r m a k in g i t s o w n p o w d e r ,
f o r m a k in g i t s o w n g u n s a n d m a t e r ia ls o f w a r , a n d f o r b u ild ­
in g i t s o w n b a tt le s h ip s . W e h a v e n o t t im e e v e n to d is c u s s s u c h
q u e s tio n s , b u t h a v e s p e n t a b o u t 10 h o u r s d u r in g t h e l a s t w e e k
d e b a tin g a m o tio n to m e e t a t 10 o ’c lo c k in t h e m o r n in g .
W e o u g h t to h a v e p ro p er le g is la t io n to b u ild u p t h e m e r c h a n t
m a r in e o f t h e A m e r ic a n N a tio n . O u r fla g i s p r a c t ic a lly n e v e r
se e n in f o r e ig n p o r ts, a n d h a r d ly e v e r se e n in o u r o w n p o r ts .
W e o u g h t to t a k e s te p s , th r o u g h t h e L e g is la t u r e o f t h is Nation",
in t h e H o u s e o f R e p r e s e n ta t iv e s a n d in t h e S e n a te , to p rom ote,'
b r in g a b o u t, a n d e s t a b lis h u n iv e r s a l p e a c e , w h ic h w e c o u ld do
i f w e s p e n t t h e s a m e a m o u n t o f m o n e y a n d e n e r g y in p r o m o tin g
p e a c e t h a t w e d o in b u ild in g n a v ie s a n d in s u p p o r tin g a r m ie s .
N e v e r th e le s s , u n t il w e h a v e a b e t te r c o n d itio n , w e o u g h t to
h a v e t im e to c o n s id e r t h e n a v a l p r o g r a m a n d t h e d e v e lo p m e n t
o f o u r m ilit a r y fo r c e s .
W e o u g h t to h a v e t im e t o d is c u s s o n t h e flo o r o f t h e S e n a te
t h e r ig h t o f t h e w o m e n o f t h i s c o u n tr y to t h e e q u a l p r iv ile g e o f
lif e , lib e r ty , a n d t h e p u r s u it o f h a p p in e s s . T h is q u e s t io n a f fe c ts
t h e r ig h t o f 4 5 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 A m e r ic a n s . Y e t w e t a lk fr o m n o o n t i ll
10 or 11 o ’c lo c k a t n ig h t on IL etch H e t c h y , a s e r io u s w a s t e o f
tim e , b e c a u s e t w o o r t h r e e d a y s w o u ld b e su ffic ie n t f o r th e
F r is c o w a t e r su p p ly .
W e o u g h t to h a v e a n o p p o r tu n ity to d is c u s s u p o n t h e flo o r
lic e n t io u s n e s s in t h e p u b lic p r e s s, w h ic h u n d e r p r e s e n t c o n d i­
t io n s i s a b le to g iv e p u b lic it y b r o a d c a s t a n d w h o le s a le a n d c o n ­
t in u o u s ly to t h in g s t h a t a r e u n tr u e a n d a g a in s t th e p u b lic i n ­
t e r e s t.
T h e f o u n t a in s o f in fo r m a t io n f o r t h e p e o p le a r e f r e ­
q u e n tly p o is o n e d b y r e c k le s s p u b lic a tio n s t h a t o u g h t to b e
g u id e d b y la w a lo n g t h e lin e s o f d e c e n c y a n d m o d e r a tio n , a t t h e
s a m e t im e t h a t f u ll lib e r t y o f t h e p r e s s i s p r e s e r v e d . W e h a v e
n o t t im e to d e b a te s u c h q u e s t io n s , b u t c a n d is c u s s q u e s t io n s o f
o r d e r a t le n g th .
W e s h a ll h a v e to p a s s in t h e S e n a te a t h o u s a n d m illio n d o l­
l a r s o f a p p r o p r ia tio n s , a n d t h e t im e w i l l c o m e in th e S e n a te
w h e n in a f e w h o u r s y o u w i l l s e e r u s h e d th r o u g h t h is b od y
a p p r o p r ia tio n b ills c a r r y in g $ 1 0 0 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 w it h v e r y l i t t l e a n a ly t i­
c a l d is c u s s io n . W e n e v e r h a v e h a d t im e e v e n to p a s s o n t h e q u e s-

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T h e d e v e lo p m e n t o f t h e c r e a t iv e la b o r p o w e r o f A m e r ic a
b y lif t in g t h e l a s t lo a d o f illit e r a c y fr o m A m e r ic a n y o u t h a n d
e s ta b lis h in g c o n t in u o u s s c h o o ls f o r in d u s t r ia l e d u c a t io n u n d er
p u b lic c o n tr o l a n d e n c o u r a g in g a g r ic u lt u r a l e d u c a tio n a n d d e m ­
o n s tr a tio n in r u r a l s c h o o ls ;
T h e e s ta b lis h m e n t o f in d u s t r ia l r e s e a r c h la b o r a t o r ie s to p a t
t h e m e th o d s a n d d is c o v e r ie s o f s c ie n c e a t t h e s e r v ic e o f A m e r ­
ic a n p r o d u c e r s.
T h e s e a r e so m e o f t h e s o c ia l a n d in d u s t r ia l r e f o r m s w h ic h
o u g h t to b e c o n s id e r e d , w h ic h o u g h t to b e p r o v id e d fo r , a s f a r
enWe° ought to have a national progressive inheritance tax as a s th e F e d e r a l G o v e r n m e n t c a n d o s o o r p r o m o te th e m . A n d
a .art of the fiscal system, as every country in Europe has, T w a n t to p r o te s t a g a in a g a in s t t h e w a s t e o f t im e in t h e U n ite d
because no State can make it effective.
S t a t e s S e n a te . T h e t im e h a s c o m e f o i c lo t u r e in t h e S e n a te
W e o m d it to h a v e t h e “ g a t e w a y a m e n d m e n t ’ p a s s e d b y
o f ‘ t h e U n ite d S ta te s.- T h e t im e lia s c o m e w h e n S e n a to r s w h o
w h ic h to m a k e c o m p a r a tiv e ly e a s y t h e a m e n d m e n t o f t h e C on- w a n t to a d d r e s s t h e S e n a te u p o n a s u b j e c t s h a ll b e g iv e n a
si itn ! ion o f t h e U n ite d S t a t e s by th e p e o p le , b e c a u s e w h e n e v e r
r e a s o n a b le t im e w it h in w h ic h to do it, a n d t h e n y ie ld t h e floor
v o n c o m e in to a c o n d itio n w h e r e a v e s te d w r o n g i s e s t a b lis h e d
o th e r S e n a to r s .
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Vnu w ill find a lw a v s t h a t t h e C o n s titu tio n i s u r g e d to p r e v e n t a to M
r KERNS'
s i r : P r e s id e n t , t h e S e n a to r f r o m M a s s a c h u s e tt s
r e m e d y f o r t h e p e o p le . W e c o u ld n o t p a s s a n in c o m e t a x b e ­
h a s se e n fit to p la c e in th e R ecord r h e p r e e i e f m m ^ o r o f S en a c a u s e (lie C o n s titu tio n fo r b a d e it, a c c o r d in g to t h e in te r p r e ta ­
t o r s p r e s e n t o n e it h e r s id e o f th e C h a m b e r a t c e r t a in in t e r v a ls
tio n o f a d iv id e d co u rt.
n a m e d b y h im . I d o n o t k n o w w h y . fie d e s n e d t h u s to r e fle c t
W e o u g h t to p a s s a n a c t p r o v id in g f o r a p r e s id e n t ia l p r im a r y
u p o n t h e d r a w in g p o w e r s o f t h e d is t in g u is h e d S e n a to r fro m
fo r t h e n o m in a tio n a n d e le c tio n o f P r e s id e n t s .
C o n n e c tic u t [M r. M c L e a n ] b y e m p h a s iz in g t h e p r o p o s it io n t h a t
W e o u g h t to h a v e a n a c t p a s s e d t h a t w ill e s t a b lis h th e im ­ M e m b e r s o f t h e S e n a te d e c lin e d to lis t e n t o h is v e r y a b le a d ­
p r o v e m e n t o f j u d ic ia l p r o c e s s e s in t h is c o u n tr y , b y w liic b tb e
d ress,
p e o p le m a y o b ta in q u ic k j u s t ic e a n d c h e a p j u s t ic e .
W hile the R ecord is being arranged by Senators on the other
W e o u g h t to h a v e la w s im p r o v in g t h e c o n d itio n s o f la b o r .
side showing the number of Senators present at stated intervals
W e o u g h t to h a v e a l e g is la t iv e r e fe r e n c e b u r e a u a n d d r a f tin g it would be well enough to let the R ecord also show that im­
d iv is io n f o r t h e S e n a te a n d f o r t h e C o n g r e s s.
I t i s o n th e mediately upon the call for a quorum, without any delay at all,
c a le n d a r . E v e r y t im e i t i s b r o u g h t u p o b je c tio n is m a d e to it s 39 Democratic Senators answered to their names, and 2 have
since entered the Chamber, making a total of 41 D e m o c r a tic
\ Y e o u g h T ’t o h a v e t h e s y s t e m a t ic d e v e lo p m e n t o f o u r w a t e r
Senators present out of a possible 50, 2 being sick, leaving 7
p o w e r s a n d la w s p a s s e d to e n c o u r a g e a n d d ir e c t tn e m .
Democratic Senators not present and unaccounted for. it might
We ought to have laws passed for the proper conservation ho well for the R ecord also to show m tins connection that out
and
of our national forests and of our national minerals,, of a possible 45 Senators on the Republican side, there were 24
laws that will enable tbe living generation to enjoy them, to use who answered the roll call, leaving 21 unaccounted tor, except
them, and to conserve them.
that 1 on that side is sick, leaving 20 ^unaccounted toi.
W e o u g h t to h a v e o u r p a t e n t l a w s p e r fe c te d .
S o if th e p u rp o s e o f t h e S e n a to r on th e o ilie r sid e w a s to

(ion of #i budget or to take the necessary steps to adequately pro­
vide for the adequate economy and efficiency of the (,o\enime .
We have had volumes of reports on economy and efficiency.
I have tried to read them. I have read them in part. I doubt
if mnnv Soivitors o n the floor kave had time to read these reports, winch'have cost this Nation thousands. andJJo«sands of
dollars. Yet the r e c o m m e n d a ti o n s there would seem to be of
great value in promoting both economy and efficiency of gov-

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There are Innumerable questions affecting the welfare of this show ’ t h a t th e D e m o c ra tic S e n a to r s w e r e n o t p a y in g a tte n tio n
Nation in the way of social and industrial reforms, which t 0 t h e i r d u ty , w h ile th e R e p u b lic a n S e n a to r s w e re v ig ila n t in
ought to he considered by the Senate. The time of ^ Senate t h a t re g a r d , i t se em s to m e h e lia s u t t e r ly f a ile d in h is p u rp o se.
ought not to be wasted, and I want to put m the R ecord my
M r G A L L IN G E R . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h i s J s , I th in k , t h e th ir d
1 ' i 1d o n o t m a k e 't h e s e o b s e r v a tio n s b e c a u s e o f t h e b a n k in g a n d
c u r r e n c y b ill. 'The b a n k in g a n d c u r r e n c y b ill i s o n ly o n e o f tb e
m a n y t h in g s w h ic h ought, to b e p a s s e d b y t lie C o n g r e ss.
T h e r e fo r m s h a v e b e e n p le d g e d o r s u g p s t e d in v a r io u s p a
fo r m s , n o t o n ly D e m o c r a tic p la tfo r m s b u t o th e r p la tf o r m s , rep
r e s e n tin g la r g e g r o u p s o f p e o p le .
, „ n eeded
I h a v e in m y h a n d a s p le n d id s t a t e m e n t of the vai io u s n ^ c le a
s o c ia l a n d in d u s t r ia l r e fo r m s, w h ic h w a s p u t m to t h e
o f t h e P r o g r e s s iv e P a r ty o f t h e N a t io n , a p a i t y w h i t
S ■
te r e d 4 .0 0 0 ,0 0 0 v o te s .
I t p r o p o se s t h e c o n s e r v a tio n o f h u m a n r e s o u r c e s th r o u g h e n ­
lig h te n e d m e a s u r e s o f s o c ia l a n d in d u s t r ia l j u s t ic e .
I t p r o p o se s e f fe c tiv e le g is la t io n , lo o k in g t o :
T h e p r e v e n tio n o f in d u s t r ia l a c c id e n t s ,

injurious effects incid<T h e ° f lx in g o f m in im u m s a f e t y a n d h e a lt h
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v a r io u s o c c u p a tio n s , a n d t h e e x e r c is e o f
^ S S r a ta te
S t a t e a n d N a t io n , in c lu d in g th e F e d e r a l c o n t r o o
c o m m e r c e a n d th e t a x in g p o w e r , to m a in t a in s u c h s t a n d a r d ,
T h e p r o h ib itio n o f c h ild la b o r ;
M in im u m w a g e s t a n d a r d s f o r w o r k in g w o m e n , to p r o v id e a
“ liv in g s c a l e ” in a il in d u s t r ia l o c c u p a tio n s ;
T h e p r o h ib itio n o f n ig h t w o r k fo r w o m e n a n d t h e e s t a b lis h ­
m e n t o f a n e ig h t-h o u r d a y f o r w o m e n a n d y o u n g p e r s o n s ;
One day’s rest in seven for all wageworkers;
The 8-liour d a y in continuous 24-hour industries;
T h e a b o litio n o f t h e c o n v ic t c o n tr a c t-la b o r s y s te m , s u b s t it u t ­
in g ;l s y s t e m o f p r iso n p r o d u c tio n fo r g o v e r n m e n ta l c o n su m p ion
only, a n d th e a p p lic a tio n o f p r is o n e r s ’ e a r n in g s to t h e su p p o r t
o f t h e ir d e p e n d e n t f a m ilie s ;
P u b lic it y a s to w a g e s , h o u r s, a n d c o n d itio n s o f l a b o r , f t 1
r e p o r ts upon in d u s t r ia l a c c id e n t s a n d d i s e a s e s ; a n d t h e o p e n in g
t o p u b lic in s p e c tio n o f a ll t a llie s , w e ig h t s , m e a s u r e s , a n d c h e c v
Rv^tom s on la b o r p r o d u c t s ,
. .
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S ta n d a r d s o f c o m p e n s a tio n fo r d e a t h b y in d u s t r ia l a c c id e n t
an d in ju r y a n d tr a d e d is e a s e s , w h ic h w ill t r a n s f e r t h e b u r d e n
o f lo st e a r n in g s fr o m t h e f a m ilie s o f w o r k in g p e o p le to tb e in ­
d u s t r y a n d th u s to th e c o m m u n it y ;
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’Dim protect ion of home life against the hazards of sickness,
irregular employment, and ohl age, through the adoption of a
s y s t e m of social insurance adapted to Amencan use,




t ir a d e w e h a v e lis t e n e d to in t h e l a s t t w o w e e k s fr o m t h e S e n ­
a t o r fr o m O k la h o m a .
I c o n f e s s it i s g e t t in g a tr ifle te d io u s ,
b e c a u s e i f th e r e i s a n y o n e S e n a to r w h o w a s t e s t h e t im e o f tlie
S e n a te w it h o u t e it h e r r h y m e o r r e a s o n i t is t h e S e n a to r fr o m
O k la h o m a w h e n lie r e a d s a le c t u r e to t h e S e n a te o n w h a t h e
c o n s id e r s t h e d u ty o f S e n a to r s .
W h a t a p a r a d is e t h is N a t io n w o u ld be, a n d p o s s io ly th e
w o r ld , i f t h e m e m b e r sh ip o f b o th H o u s e s o f C o n g r e s s s h o u ld
a b d ic a te a n d le t t h e S e n a to r fr o m y O k la lio n ia t r a n s a c t th e b u s i­
n e s s o f t h e c o u n t r y ! W h a t a p r o g r a m h e h a s h u d o u t fo r u s
to -n ig h t, c o n s is tin g o f e v e r y c o n c e iv a b le w ild c a t th e o r y m le g is ­
la t io n t h a t h a s b e e n s u g g e s t e d b y a n y m a n d u r in g t lie la st 20
y e a r s ! Y e t t b e S e n a to r s t a n d s h e r e a n d s e r io u s ly s a y s lie is
in fo r m in g t h e c o u n tr y a s to t h e d e r e lic t io n o n t h e p a r t o f t h e
R e p u b lic a n s in t h e m a tt e r o f le g is la t io n .
H e fin d s f a u l t b e c a u s e a , q u o r u m is, c a lle d f o i fr o m t im e to
t im e
T h e r u le s o f t h e S e n a t e g iv e a n y S e n a to r t h a t p r iv ile g e .
I h a v e s to o d a t m y d e s k f o r d a y s a n d d a y s a d v o c a t in g w h a t I
c o n c e iv e d to b e im p o r ta n t m e a s u r e s , w h e n t h e r o ll w a s c a lle d
vpo-ulnrlv onCe in fiv e J n i n u t e s a t t h e r e q u e s t o f M e m b e r s on
h e o th e r r id e o f t h is C h am b er.- W e d id n o t fin d f a u lt , it w a s
t h e ir p r iv ile g e t o d o i t i f t h e y c h o se . r< s a t a t m y d e s k a n d
lis t e n e d to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a o c c u p y in g ; I th in k , e ig h t
h o u r s in
c lo s in g s e s s io n s o f C o n g r e s s d e f e a t in g le g is la t io n
by c o n d u c tin g a filib u s te r t h a t w a s n o t ju s fl|fie d u n d e r t h e cir-

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S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a s a y s t h e s e t h in g s f o r th e
p u r p o se o f “ a c q u a in tin g t h e c o u n t r y ’’— h e c a n e s n o th in g ab ou t
th e S e n a te h e s a y s — w it h t h e t e r r ib le t h i n g s ' t h a t a r e b ein g
c o m m itte d b y t h e R e p u b lic a n s o f t h i s b o d y in tfte m a tt e r o f rea u ir in g a decent; a t te n d a n c e u p o n t b e s e s s io n s o t t h e S e n a te .
M r "’P r e s id e n t , w e h a v e b e e n c o m p e lle d b y t h e m a jo r it y to
c o m e ’ h e r e a t 1.0 o’c lo c k in t h e m o r n in g a n d r e g a i n u n til 11
o ’c lo c k in t lie e v e n in g . T h e r e i s n o r e a s o n f o r it. \_T here i s no
iu s iif io a tio n fo r it. I s a y t h a t u n d e r s u c h c ir c u m s t a n c e s it js
n o t o n ly o u r r ig h t h u t o u r d u ty t o s e e t h a t t h e b u s in e s s o f th e
S e n a t e ’ i s c o n d u c te d w it h a q u o r u m o f t h e S e n a t o r s in th e ir
S e T h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a c a lls a t t e n t io n to t h e W e t th a t
a f te r a lit t l e w h ile a p p r o p r ia tio n b ills w i l l b e h e r e a p p r o p r ia t­
in g a th o u s a n d m illio n d o lla r s t o c a r r y o n t h e w o r k o f th is
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d u t y o f S e n a to r s a n d o u r r ig h t s u n d e r t h e r u le s o f t h e S e n a te .
W e w e r e k e p t h e r e u n d e r t h e w h ip a n d la s h a n d t o ld t h a t w e
m u s t p a s s a t a r if f b ill in a c e r t a in le n g t h o f tim e . W e p a s s e d
t h e t a r if f b ill in le s s t im e th a n a n y t a r if f b ill h a s b e e n p a s s e d
d u r in g m y 2 0 y e a r s ’ s e r v ic e in t h i s b o d y . W e d id i t b e c a u s e
i t w a s d e m a n d e d o f u s b y t h e m a j o r it y In t h i s b o d y a n d b y t h e
P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n ite d S ta t e s . W e w e r e p r o m is e d t h a t i f w e
p a s s e d t h a t la w g r e a t r e l i e f w o u ld c o m e to t h e p e o p le o f t h e
U n it e d S ta t e s , t h a t t h e h ig h c o s t o f liv in g w o u ld b e r e d u c e d ,
a n d t h a t h a p p in e s s w o u ld p e r v a d e e v e r y A m e r ic a n h o m e . A s I
S a id t h e o t h e r day, o n e D e m o c r a t ic S e n a to r s t o o d in h i s p la c e
a n d s o le m n ly s a id t h a t t h e p a s s a g e o f t h a t b ill w o u ld l i f t a
b u r d e n o f $ 4 0 0 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 fr o m t h e s h o u ld e r s o f t h e A m e r ic a n
p e o p le .
W h a t h a s b e e n t h e r e s u lt? E v e r y in t e llig e n t m a n k n o w s t h a t
t h e p a s s a g e o f t h a t - l a w d id n o t r e m o v e t h e b u r d e n s fr o m t h e
A m e r ic a n p e o p le . E v e r y m a n k n o w s t h a t t h e h ig h c o s t o f liv in g
h a s n o t b e e n r e d u c e d , b u t t h a t i t h a s s t e a d ily in c r e a s e d s in c e
t h a t tim e . E v e r y m a n w h o g o e s t o t h e t r o u b le to a c q u a in t h im ­
s e l f w it h in d u s t r ia l c o n d itio n s in t h i s c o u n tr y to -d a y k n o w s
t h a t t h e r e i s g r e a t in d u s t r ia l d is t u r b a n c e , g r e a t w a n t o f e m ­
p lo y m e n t, a n d g r e a t m is e r y a m o n g a la r g e c la s s o f o u r p e o p le .
O n ly t w o d a y s a g o a g e n t le m a n c o n d u c tin g o n e o f t h e l a r g e s t
b u s in e s s e s in t h i s c o u n tr y — I t h in k e m p lo y in g 1 3 ,0 0 0 m e n
s t a t e d in t h is c it y t h a t h e h a d h a d in a s in g le d a y 6 ,0 0 0 a p p li­
c a t io n s f o r e m p lo y m e n t, a n d t h a t t h e a v e r a g e w a s 3 ,0 0 0 p e r
day.
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d e lp h ia , a n d fo u n d in i t a n a r t ic le to w h ic h I w is h to c a ll a t t e n ­
tio n . F o r t h e p u r p o s e o f s h o w in g h o w t h i s g lo r io u s t a r if f la w
w h ic h w a s g o in g to g iv e s u c h r e lie f to t h e A m e r ic a n p e o p le
i s w o r k in g , I p r o p o s e to r e a d a l i t t l e e d it o r ia l fr o m t h a t p a p e r :
T h e p e o p l e o f P h o e n i x v i l l e , w h i c h is c l o s e t o t h i s c i t y —

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la n d . B u t t h a t d o e s n o t w a r r a n t u s, M r. P r e s id e n t , in r e m a in ­
in g s ile n t a n d p e r m it t in g t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a to d o t h e
le g is la t io n f o r t h e c o u n tr y , w h ic h w e a r e a ll s w o r n t o d o o u r
b e s t to c o n s e r v e .
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h o m a h a s f o r a t h ir d t im e ta k e n o c c a s io n to r e a d a le c t u r e to
t h e S e n a te , a n d e s p e c ia lly to t h e R e p u b lic a n s id e o f t h e S e n a te .
T h e S e n a to r f r o m O k la h o m a h a s n o t p r e s e n te d t h i s m a t t e r
f a ir ly , so f a r a s t h e c a llin g o f t h e r o ll i s c o n c e r n e d . A f e w d a y s
a g o t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a c a u s e d t o b e p u t in t h e R e c o r d
t h e f a c t t h a t w h e n t h e r o ll c a ll w a s d e m a n d e d t h e r e w e r e 56
S e n a t o r s p r e s e n t, w h e n t h e r e w e r e o n ly 8 S e n a to r s p r e s e n t
w h e n t h e r o ll c a ll w a s d e m a n d e d . I u s e d s o m e l a n g u a g e th e n ,
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a t h is s u g g e s t io n h a s b e e n s t r ic k e n fr o m t h e R ecord, b u t I a m
t e m p te d to r e p e a t i t in v ie w o f w h a t t h e S e n a to r f r o m O k la ­
h o m a h a s s a id t o t h e S e n a te .
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o t h e r h o n e s t m o t iv e s a n d i n t e llig e n t p u r p o s e s . I s e e n o r e a s o n
w h y t h e le g is la t io n o f t h i s s e s s io n m a y n o t p r o c e e d in a n o r ­
d e r ly a n d p r o p e r w a y . I f w e a r e to s it h e r e f r o m 1 0 o ’c lo c k in
t h e m o r n in g u n t il 11 o’clock a t n ig h t, to t h e in j u r y o f tl$e h e a lt h
o f e v e r y o n e of u s , l e t u s a t l e a s t c o n d u c t o u r s e lv e s lik e g e n t le ­
m e n a n d g iv e t o e a c h S e n a to r t h e s a m e p r a is e f o r in d u s t r y a n d
f o r th e p e r fo r m a n c e o f h is d u t i e s t h a t w e c la im f o r o u r s e lv e s .
B u t, M r. P r e s id e n t , I d e s ir e t o ' p u t o n r e c o r d t h e f a c t t h a t f
w i l l n o t s i t in m y s e a t, com m a n d ed - t o b e h e r e b y t h e m a j o r it y
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m a k e a s p e e c h w h e n e ig h t S e n a t o r s a r e in t h e C h a m b e r a n d
t h e o t h e r s a r e e n j o y in g t h e m s e lv e s in t h e C lo a k r o o m s o r in t h e ir
c o m m it t e e r o o m s, s m o k in g t h e ir c i g a r s a n d t e llin g o f t h e t r i ­
u m p h s o f t h e ir p o lit ic a l liv e s .
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c e e d . L e t u s c o n t in u e t o c o n s id e r t h i s b ill a s i t h a s b e e n c o n ­
s id e r e d . I c a n n o t r e c a ll a s in g le sp e e c h t h a t h a s n o t b e e n
a n in s t r u c t iv e o n e , a n d I a m w a it in g , M r. P r e s id e n t , w it h e a g e r
e x p e c t a n c y , w i t h b u o y a n t a n t ic ip a t io n , to h e a r t h e S e n a to r fr o m
O k la h o m a , w h e n h e w i l l s o lv e a ll t h e p r o b le m s t h a t c o n f r o n t u s
t o -d a y a n d le a d u s a lo n g a p a th t h a t w i l l b r in g t o u s a l l h a p ­
p in e s s arid c o n t e n tm e n t a n d p r o s p e r ity .
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a tim e . T h e f ir s t p r o b le m I w ill s o lv e i s t h e p r o b le m p r o p o s e d
b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e in r e p e a t in g in s u b s ta n c e
w h a t h e p u t in t h e R ecord a f e w d a y s a g o . H e p u t t h e f o l lo w ­
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i s b u t 1 0 ,0 0 0 .
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h a v e e x c e l l e n t r e a s o n f o r b e i n g d i s s a t i s f i e d w i t h it .
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p u d d in g w h ic h c o n s is t s o f th e e a t in g .
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t h e k in d o f a C h r is t m a s p u d d in g w h ic h w e m a y re lis h .
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t h e S e n a te in im p u t in g to a S e n a to r on t h e flo o r a la c k o f in t e g ­
k n o w fr o m h itt e r e x p e r ie n c e t h e t r u t h o f t h e d is c u s s io n s w h ie n w e ie
h a d a t s u c h le n g t h , p r o a n d c o n , c o n c e r n in g t h e t a r iff.
r it y in h a v in g m a d e a s t a t e m e n t w h ic h “ w a s n o t t r u e .” T h e
S o l o n g a s o l d o r d e r s r e m a i n e d t o b e f i ll e d t h e w o r k m e n o r I h o e n i x S e n a to r s a id , “ I a m u n w illin g t h a t a n y S e n a to r s h o u ld im ­
v ille c o n t in u e d e m p lo y e d .
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p e a c h t h e I n t e g r it y o f o t h e r S e n a to r s ,” a n d im m e d ia t e ly w a s
a ll g o t t e n o u t.
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g r a d u a lly a t fir s t , b u t la t e r o n f a s t e r .
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s e l f g u ilt y o f t h e v e r y f a u l t w h ic h h e s a id lie w a s u n w illin g
m e n t o d o i n t h e m il ls , a n d a s a c o n s e q u e n c e m e n h a d t o b e la i u ott.
a n o th e r S e n a to r s h o u ld c o m m it.
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B u t, M r. P r e s id e n t , l e t u s s e e h o w f a r j u s t if ie d t h e S e n a to r
s m a ll a n d fo r m e r ly p r o s p e r o u s , h a p p y , a n d b u s t lin g c i t y s p e a k s f o r
I t s e lf .
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fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e w a s in h is c r it ic is m o f t h e S e n a t o r fr o m
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a ll t h e i l l s o f t h e b o d y p o litic , t h e p a s s a g e o f t h e n e w t a r iff la w .
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W e h a v e n o w a c u r r e n c y b ill b e f o r e u s f o r c o n s id e r a tio n . F o r
H e a v e n ’s s a k e , M r. P r e s id e n t , i s n o t t h a t o f su fficien t, c o n s e ­
q u e n c e to e n g a g e t h e a t te n t io n o f t h e S e n a te f o r a r e a s o n a b le
le n g t h o f t im e ? B u t t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a w a n t s to
r u s h it t h r o u g h t h is b o d y a t lig h t n in g sp e e d . I p r e s u m e i f t h e
S e n a to r h a d h is w a y h e w o u ld m a k e h i s s p e e c h a n d th e n t h e
a r g u m e n t w o u ld b e c lo s e d a n d t h e v o t e w o u ld b e ta k e n . B u t w e
a r e n o t g o in g to l e g i s l a t e t h a t w a y t h i s y e a r . W e a r e g o in g to
h a v e a f a ir , c o n s id e r a te , a n d i n t e llig e n t d is c u s s io n o f t h i s q u e s ­
tio n , a n d w h e n t h e v o t e c o m e s it w i l l b e a f t e r r e a s o n a b le a n d
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in t h e C ongressional R ecord?
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m ad e th a t sta te m e n t— on h is h on or?
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a. m . th e r e h a s n e v e r b een a q u orum h ere a t th a t h our.
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a b o u t g e t t in g a q u o r u m n o w i f w e m e t a t 12 o ’c lo c k .
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p r o p e r t h a t h e s h o u ld h a v e a q u o r u m h e r e .
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i t h a s a lw a y s b e e n p e r fo r m e d in t h e p a s t .
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m in u t e s o u t o f 1 3 h o u r s . I f w e w a n t e d d e la y , ftlr. P r e s id e n t ,
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n o t t a k e t h e flo o r a n d o c c u p y i t 4 0 m in u t e s ’1 a t a n y t im e u p o n
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t h e S e n a te .
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t im e a n d a g a in u p o n t h e flo o r o f t h e S e n a te . T h e S e n a to r fr o m
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to it , f o r I w a n t a v o t e u p o n t h i s m e a s u r e .
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p a s s e d i t w i l l t a k e b u t o n e s e s s io n o f t h e S e n a t e to c o n s id e r
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w h o d o e s n o t b e lie v e t h a t a s s o o n a s t h e c u r r e n c y b ill i s p a s s e d
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u n t il a f t e r t h e C h r is tm a s h o lid a y s . T h e le c t u r e , h o w e v e r , w a s
g iv e n n o t f o r C o n g r e s s b u t f o r t h e c o u n tr y .
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p r o p o se d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a [M r. O w e n ] to t h e
p e n d in g b ill.
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w h ic h t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a [ftlr. O w e n ] d e liv e r e d t o t h e
S e n a te t o -n ig h t w i l l b e c o m e h is t o r ic , f o r lie h a s n o t o n ly d e liv ­
e r e d a n a d d r e s s a c c u r a t e ly a d v is in g t h e D e m o c r a t s a n d t h e R e ­
p u b lic a n s w h a t t h e ir d u t y is, b u t h e h a s a ls o s t a t e d w h a t a n ­
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s h o u ld b e e n a c te d .
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w h ic h h a v e b e e n s a id h e r e t h a t t h e y w e r e b e in g s a id f o r t h e
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t h e y w o u ld b e v e r y b e n e fic ia l to th e m w h e n t h e y g o t t o t h e c o u n ­
t r y — a s o r t o f l i o r s u l e c o m b a t h e r e o v e r t h e q u e s t io n o f h o w
m a n y t im e s t h e q u e s t io n o f n o q u o r u m lia s b e e n r a is e d , a n d
t h e s e p e r s o n a l d is p u t e s a r e m a t t e r s in w h ic h I d o n o t b e lie v e
t h e c o u n tr y i s p r o f o u n d ly in te r e s t e d .
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in a s p ir it o f n o n p a r t is a n s h ip ; it w o u ld lik e to h a v e a d is c u s ­
s io n t h e p u r p o s e o f w h ic h i s to r e a c h c o n c lu s io n s s o u n d a n d
j u s t a n d w h ic h w i l l e n d in w h o le s o m e le g is la t io n . I d o n o t
b e lie v e i t i s q u ite f a i r to ftle m b e r s o n t h i s s id e o f t h e C h a m b e r
to a s s u m e t h a t b e c a u s e t h e m a j o r it y h a s d e te r m in e d in a c o n ­
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t im e f o r ftle m b e r s o n t h i s s id e o f th e C h a m b e r to d is c u s s t h e
v a r io u s p r o v is io n s o f it, a lt h o u g h i t i s p r o b a b le t h a t t h e ir v i e w s
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o f t h e m in o r ity , I h a v e s o m e r e s p o n s ib ilit y w h e n I c o m e t o
v o t e u p o n t h i s m e a s u r e , a n d s o m e d u ty to p e r fo r m in t h e d is ­
c u s s io n o f t h e b ill i t s e lf .
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t h a t t h e s e b ills , w h ic h e v e r o n e p r e v a ils h e r e , d o n o t h a v e m o r e
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j o in e d in m a k in g a r e p o r t b e t h e o n e a d o p te d a n d p a s s e d b y
t h e S e n a te , b e c a u s e I t h in k i t i s a b e t t e r 1 b ill t h a n t h e o t h e r ;
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m u s t b e p a s s e d , I e x p e c t t o v o t e f o r it , b e c a u s e I b e lie v e t h a t ,
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o f t h e U n ite d S ta t e s .
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p a r e d o n e —-b u t T w a n t to c a ll a t te n t io n t o s o m e t h in g s w h ic h I
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a n d h a v e h im p o in t to a s in g le in s t a n c e in t h e h is t o r y o f m odern,
b a n k in g a n d m o d e r n b a n k in g s y s t e m s w h e r e b a n k s o r g a n iz e d
b y t h e G o v e r n m e n t, a s t h e s e b a n k s a r e , a r e o w n e d e x c lu s iv e ly
b y b a n k s a n d th e b u s in e s s o f w h ic h is c o n fin e d e x c lu s iv e ly to
h a n k s.
M r. R E E D . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T .
D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m S o u th
D a k o t a y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m M is s o u r i?
M r. C R A W F O R D . I d o.
M r. R E E D . I w is h to a s k t h e S e n a to r w h o o w n s t h e sto c k
o f t h e s m a ll c o u n tr y n a tio n a l b a n k s o f b is S ta t e ?
M r. C R A W F O R D . T b e sto c k h o ld e r s .
M r. R E E D . O h, y e s ; b u t w h a t c la s s o f p e o p le ?
M r. C R A W F O R D . A ll k in d s o f p e o p le — f a r m e r s , m e r c h a n ts ,
la w y e r s , d o c to r s — a ll k in d s o f p e o p le .
M r. R E E D . I t i s s c a tt e r e d g e n e r a lly th r o u g h o u t t h e c o m m u ­
n it ie s in w h ic h t h e b a n k i s s it u a te d , i s i t n o t?
M r. C R A W F O R D . Y e s.
M r. R E E D . T h a t i s t r u e o f t h e s m a ll b a n k s a l l o v e r t h e c o u n ­
tr y , i s i t n o t?
M r. C R A W F O R D . G e n e r a lly .
M r. R E E D . T h e s a m e t h in g is t r u e o f t h e S t a t e b a n k s, is it
n o t, t h a t m a y c o m e in to t h e s y s te m ?
M r. C R A W F O R D . Q u ite g e n e r a lly .
M r. R E E D . T h e n , i s i t n o t t r u e t h a t t h e s to c k o f th e p r e s e n t
b a n k in g s y s t e m is s c a tt e r e d g e n e r a lly a m o n g t b e p e o p le o f th e
U n ite d S ta t e s , o f a l l c la s s e s ?
M r. C R A W F O R D . T h a t i s tr u e .
M r. R E E D . I s th e r e , th e n , a n y d a n g e r i f t h e s to c k in th e s e
n e w b a n k s i s o w n e d b y t h e e x is t in g b a n k s , w h ic h in tu r n a r e
o w n e d b y t h e p e o p le g e n e r a lly , s c a tt e r e d a ll th r o u g h t h e U n ite d
S ta t e s ?
M r C R A W F O R D . M r. P r e s id e n t, I h a v e n o t r e fe r r e d to it. a s
a d a n g e r . I h a v e r e fe r r e d to it a s a w r o n g p r in c ip le to c o erc e
t h e s e p e o p le a n d t h e s e b a n k s in to su b s c r ib in g f o r t h i s sto c k . I
h a v e c h a lle n g e d S e n a to r s to p o in t to a p r e c e d e n t f o r su c h le g is ­
' W h y w a s t h i s p r o v is io n c o e r c in g a ll o f t h e n a tio n a l b a n k s to
la t io n a n y w h e r e in t h e w o r ld in m o d e r n b a n k in g sy s te m s , r
t a k e t h is sto ck , a n d n o t r e c o g n iz in g th e r ig h t o f in d iv id u a ls to
h a v e n o t c a lle d a t t e n t io n to i t a s b e in g a d a n g e r . I w ill d is c u s s
s u b s c r ib e fo r a d o lla r o f it, p u t in t h e b ill?
W e a r e to ld ,
« B e c a u s e t h e sy s te m w ill n o t b e a s u c c e s s u n le s s a ll o f t h e t h a t a l i t t l e l a t e r on.
M r. R E E D . B u t i f th e r e i s n o w r o n g t h a t c a n b e p o in te d o u t,
n a tio n a l b a n k s a r e c o m p e lle d to c o m e in to i t .” W e a r e t o ld :
w e n e e d n o t d is tu r b o u r s e lv e s a b o u t w h e t h e r o r n o t it h a s e v e r
“ i t is (o b e a b a n k o f b a n k s. I t is to b e a n in s t it u t io n c r e a t e d
b y la w to e n a b le th e b a n k s to g e t r e lie f b y r e d is c o u n tin g p a p e r h a p p e n e d b e fo r e .
M r. C R A W F O R D . M r. P r e s id e n t , i f I w e r e to c o m e to th e
in it, b y p r o c u r in g c u r r e n c y fr o m i t .”
S e n a to r fr o m M is s o u r i a n d , a t t h e p o in t o f a p is t o l, c o m p el h im
W h e n o n e g e t s t h a t v ie w p o in t o f t h e m a tt e r h e a s k s t h e
to
g o in to h i s p o c k e t a n d p a y o v e r h is m o n e y to m e, s a y in g th a t
q u e s t io n : “ I s th e r e a n y b a n k in g s y s te m s im ila r to t h is p r o ­
I h a d a b e n e v o le n t p u r p o se , t h a t w h e n I g o t i t I w a s g o in g to
p o s a l a n y w h e r e in th e w id e w o r ld ? I s th e r e a p la c e o n e a r t h

p a y y o u r m o n e y fo r sto c k in a r e s e r v e b a n k w h e t h e r y o u w a n t
I n \ i o so o r n o t, a n d t h e p e n a lty o f y o u r f a ilu r e to s u b s c r ib e
an d p a y fo r su c h sto c k s h a ll b e t h a t y o u g iv e u p y o u r c h a r te r
a n d go o u t o f b u s in e s s .”
I h a v e n o t lik e d t h a t p r o v isio n o f t h e b ill a s it p a s s e d th e
H o u se , a n d w h ic h is in t h e b ill a s it w a s r e p o r te d by t h e g r o u p
o f S e n a to r s o f w h ic h t h e d is tin g u is h e d S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
[M r. O w e n ] is t h e h e a d .
I h a v e n o t b een a b le to s e e a n y
n e c e s s it y fo r so d r a s t ic a r e q u ir e m e n t a s t h a t , a n d I w ill s a y
t h a t it se e m s to m e to b e fu n d a m e n ta lly w r o n g , b e c a u s e i f
t h e g r e a t p u b lic i s w illin g v o lu n ta r ily to c o m e f o r w a r d w it h ­
o u t c o e r c io n a n d s u b s c r ib e a n d p a y fo r t in s s to c k a n d i s w illin g ,
a n x io u s a n d r e a d y to f u r n is h t h is c a p it a l, w h y s h o u ld th e
G o v e r n m e n t s a y to th e b a n k s, “ Y o u a n d y o u a lo n e sh a ll b e
re q u ir e d to do i t ? ” U p o n w h a t t h e o r y d o e s t h a t p r in c ip le r e s t
a n d w h y s h o u ld su c h a p o w e r a s t h a t b e e x e r t e d to c o m p e l t h e
b a n k s to t a k e t h is sto c k ?
S u p p o s e t h e . b a n k s y ie ld , a s I
p r e s u m e th e y w ill, to t h a t c o e r c iv e f e a tu r e o f t h e b ill a n d t a k e
t h is s t o c k ; th e n y o u w ill h a v e fo r c e d a n e x c lu s iv e p r iv ile g e
u p o n th e s u b s c r ib in g b a n k s, w h e t h e r t h e y so c o n s id e r i t o r n o t,
b e c a u se , a s sto c k h o ld e r s , y o u h a v e c o n fin e d t h e o w n e r s h ip to
a c la s s ; y o u h a v e g i v en th e m t h e e x c lu s iv e r ig h t to p u r c h a s e
a n d o w n t h a t sto c k . I w a n t to a sk m y f r ie n d s o n t h e o th e r sid e
o f t h e C h a m b e r, do th e y r e a lly c o n s id e r t h a t t h a t is d e m o c r a tic ?
M r. S H A F R O T II . M r. P r e s id e n t ------M r. C U A W F O ItD . I s th e r e n o t a n e le m e n t in t h a t v e r y p ro p o ­
s it io n o f th e m o st v ic io u s k in d o f c la s s le g is la t io n ? I s th e r e
n o t a p r in c ip le th e r e t h a t is r e a lly on i t s f a c e u n -A m e r ic a n ?
M r. B r o w n , M r. S m ith , a n d M r. J o n e s h a v e $ 5,000, $ 1 0,000, a n d
$2,000, r e s p e c t iv e ly , a t t h e ir d is p o s a l, w h ic h th e y a r e a n x io u s
to in v e s t in sto c k in a F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k ; th e y a r e p e r f e c t ly
w illin g to do so to g e t 5 p e r c e n t in t e r e s t u p o n t h e ir in v e s t m e n t ;
th e y a r e lo o k in g fo r j u s t s u c h a n in v e s t m e n t a s th a t , b u t y o u
d e n y to th e m t h e p r iv ile g e o f su b s c r ib in g to t h a t sto c k , in v e stin g t h e ir m o n e y in it, a n d rec e iv in g M r. S H A F R O T II . M r. P r e s id e n t ------Mr. C R A W F O R D . J u s t le t m e fin is h t h i s th o u g h t— r e c e iv in g
th e 5 p er c e n t d iv id e n d u p o n it. T h e y a r e A m e r ic a n c it iz e n s .
T h e p e r s o n s e e k in g t h e in v e s t m e n t m a y b e a w id o w or a m in o r
c h ild w h o s e g u a r d ia n i s a n x io u s to m a k e a n in v e s t m e n t o f t h is
c h a r a c te r fo r h im ; th e y h a v e t h e fu n d s , t h e y a r e s e e k in g a
p la c e to in v e s t th e m , a n d w a n t to t a k e t h is s t o c k ; in f a c t, th e y
a r e a n x io u s to s u b s c r ib e fo r i t a n d b e lie v e in i t ; b u t y o u s a y
to th e m , “ Y ou s h a ll n o t h a v e t h e p r iv ile g e o f t a k in g th e s t o c k ,”
a n d th e n to t h e s m a ll b a n k o u t in a lit t le t o w n o f 1 ,500 p eo p le,
in a c o m m u n ity w h e r e t h e o fficer s o f t h a t b a n k a r e u n a b le to
se e lio w a n y in v e s t m e n t in th e s to c k o f a F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k
is g o in g to b e o f a n y b e n e fit to th e m , a n d w h o sa y , “ W e h a v e
n o t t h e k in d o f p r im e liq u id a s s e t s t h a t w e c a n t a k e o v e r to
th e r e s e r v e b a n k u p o n w h ic h to o b ta in c r e d it o r u p o n w h ic h
w e c a n g e t c u r r e n c y , a n d w e d o n o t w a n t to b e c o e r c e d in to
t a k in g f u n d s o u t o f o u r b a n k a n d in v e s t in g in t h e s to c k o f t h a t
F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k ” ; y o u sa y , “ Y o u s h a ll d o so or g iv e up
y o u r c h a r t e r ; y o u s h a ll d o so w it h in 12 m o n th s o r e ls e g o o u t
o f b u s in e s s a s a n a tio n a l b a n k .” Y o u s a y to t h e s to c k h o ld e r s
w h o h a v e th e ir f u n d s in v e s t e d in t h is l i t t l e c o u n tr y b a n k , u p o n
w h ic h th e y m a y b e r e c e iv in g 12 p e r c e n t p e r a n n u m , a n d w h o
h a v e fo r i() o r 15 y e a r s e n jo y e d a ll t h e r ig h t s o f sto c k h o ld e r s
in a b a n k w h ic h h a s i t s lo c a l c lie n t e le , w h ic h h a s i t s p e c u lia r
b u s in e s s a d ju s te d to it s su r r o u n d in g s in t h e c o m m u n ity in w h ic h
it is p la n te d , w h o a r e a ll sa tis fie d , a n d w h o d o n o t s e e th e
n e e d o f h a v in g sto c k in a F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k , y o u s a y to
thorn, “ Y o u r b a n k s h a ll s u b s c r ib e fo r a n a m o u n t o f s to c k in
a F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k e q u a l to 20 p e r c e n t o f i t s c a p i t a l ; it
m u s t p a y f o r i t ; i f i t d o e s n o t d o so , it m u s t g iv e u p i t s c h a r t e r .”
A t t h e s a m e t im e y o u d e n y to t h e p r iv a t e in d iv id u a l liv in g in
th e s a m e c o m m u n ity w h o m a y b e a n x io u s to t a k e t h e sto c k
a n d g e t th e 5 p e r c e n t u p o n i t t h e p r iv ile g e o f su b s c r ib in g f o r
it. I w a n t to a s k so m e p f m y fr ie n d s o n t h e o th e r s id e o f t h e
C h a m b e r is t h a t A m e r ic a n ; i s t h a t d e m o c r a t ic ; i s t h a t f a ir
a n d j u s t ; is i t p la c in g a ll c la s s e s o f in d iv id u a ls a n d c o r p o r a ­
t io n s u p o n a b a s is o f e q u a lity ?
I sa y , w h e n I r e a d t h e b ill
a n d lo o k e d a t t h a t f e a tu r e o f it, i t w a s r e p u g n a n t to m y s e n s e o f
w h a t is j u s t a n d f a ir , a n d I w o n d e r e d w h y i t w a s p u t in t h e




CONGRESSIONAL RECORD— SENATE.

1913

P A Y OF E M P L O Y E E S .

593

B A N K IN G AN D CU RR EN C Y .

M r. C R A W F O R D s u b m itt e d t w o a m e n d m e n ts, in te n d e d to b e
M r. M A R T IN o f V ir g in ia . F r o m t h e C o m m itte e o n A p p r o ­
p r ia t io n s I r e p o r t b a c k f a v o r a b ly w it h o u t a m e n d m e n t H o u s e p r o p o se d b y h im to t h e b ill ( H R . 7 8 3 7 ) to p r o v id e f o r t h e
j o in t r e s o lu tio n 164, a u th o r iz in g t h e S e c r e t a r y o f t h e S e n a te e s ta b lis h m e n t o f F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s, to f u r n is h a il e la s t ic
a n d th e C le r k o f t h e H o u s e to p a y t h e o ffic e r s a n d e m p lo y e e s c u r r e n c y , to a ffo r d m e a n s o f r e d is c o u n t in g c o m m e r c ia l p a p e r , to
o f th e S e n a te a n d H o u s e , in c lu d in g t h e C a p ito l p o lic e , t h e ir e s t a b lis h a m o r e e f fe c tiv e s u p e r v is io n o f b a n k in g in th e U n ite d
r e s p e c t iv e " .sa la ries f o r t h e m o n th o f D e c e m b e r , 1913, o n t h e S ta t e s , a n d fo r o th e r p u r p o s e s ; w h ic h w a s o r d e r e d to l ie on
2 0 th d a y b f s a id m o n th .
I a s k u n a n im o u s c o n s e n t f o r t h e tile ta b le a n d b e p r in te d .
p r e s e n t c o n s id e r a tio n o f t h e r e s o lu tio n .
I t s im p ly p r o v id e ^ I A?
P E R S O N A L E X P L A N A T IO N .
f o r t h e p a y m e n t o f t h e s a la r ie s o f t h e e m p lo y e e s o f t h e t j r \ / M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , I r is e to a q u e s tio n o f p e r s o n a l
H o u s e s on th e 2 0 th o f t h is m o n th .
if p r iv ile g e .
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . I s th e r e o b je c tio n to t h e p r e s e n t I O n p a g e 549 o f t h e Congressional R ecord o f D e c e m b e r 9,
c o n s id e r a tio n o f t h e r e s o lu tio n ?
11913, t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e w H a m p s h ir e [M r. Gallinger] s u g ­
M r. G A L L IN G tolR .
M r. P r e s id e n t , I t h in k t h e r e s o lu tio n g e s te d t h a t th e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a h a d in te r p o la t e d in t h e
s h o u ld b e r e a d in f u ll.
.
R ecord t h e w o r d s “ r o ll c a ll.” I w a s n o t a b le to r e c a ll w h a t
T h e S e c r e ta r y r e a d t h e j o in t r e s o lu tio n , a n d t h e r e b e in g n o t h e R ecord sh o w e d , a n d t h e r e f o r e r e q u e s te d t h a t it b e s e n t fo r .
o b je c tio n , t h e S e n a te , a s in C o m m itte e o f t h e W h o le , p r o c e e d e d I n o w h a v e i t in m y h a n d — f o lio s 2 00, 201, a n d 202.
to i t s c o n s id e r a tio n . ; M r. G A L L IN G E R . I w ill a s k t h e S e n a to r i f t h a t r e la t e s to
T h e j o in t r e s o lu tio n w a s r e p o r te d to th e S e n a te w it h o u t h is fir st s ta te m e n t?
a m e n d m e n t, o r d e r e d to C h e t h ir d r e a d in g , r e a d t h e t h ir d tim e ,
M r. O W E N . I d e c lin e t o b e in te r r u p te d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m
a n d p a ss e d .
N e w H a m p s h ir e .
B IL L S .IN TR O D U C ED .
T h e P R E S I D I N G O F F I C E R (M r. W a l s h in th e c h a i r ) . T h e
B i l l s w e r e in tr o d u c e d , r e d d t h e fir s t tim e , a n d , b y u n a n im o u s S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a d e c lin e s to y ie ld . T h e S e n a to r fr o m
O k la h o m a w ill p ro ceed .
c o n se n t, t h e s e c o n d tim e , a n d r e fe r r e d a s f o llo w s :
B y M r. S M I T H o f G e o r g ia :
M r. O W E N . O n p a g e 549 th e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a c a lle d
A b ill ( S . 3 0 0 9 ) to a m e n d se c tio n 2 3 7 o f th e J u d ic ia l C ode a t te n t io n to t h e R e c o r d , o n p a g e 149, w h e r e h e h a d c a lle d t h e
so a s to p r o v id e f o r a r e v ie w b y t h e S u p r e m e C o u r t o f th e a t te n t io n o f t h e S e n a te to t h e v a r io u s q u o r u m s c a lle d f o r a n d
U n ite d S t a t e s o f a ll fin a l d e c is io n s r e n d e r e d b y t h e h ig h e s t to t h e n u m b e r o f S e n a to r s w h o a n s w e r e d “ p r e s e n t ” o n t h e
c o u r t o f a S t a t e i n s u it s o f t h e c h a r a c te r a n d k in d n a m e d in r o ll c a ll. A t t h a t t im e t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a m e n tio n e d
s a id se c tio n , a n d / o r o th e r p u r p o s e s ; to t h e C o m m itte e o n t h e th e m a tte r o f a r o ll c a ll in c o n n e c tio n w it h t h e s e q u o r u m s e ig h t
J u d i c i a r y .'
d iffe r e n t tim e s , t h e l a s t t im e in r e f e r e n c e to t h e S e n a to r fr o m
B y M r. B R I S T O W :
N e w H a m p s h ir e [M r. G a l l i n g e r ] , w h o m a d e t h e p o in t o f no
A b ill ( S . 3 6 1 0 ) f o r t h e r e lie f o f C. E . M o o r e ; to t h e C om ­ q u o ru m a t 8 o ’c lo c k p. m ., a n d 56 S e n a to r s w e r e p r e s e n t o n t h e
m itte e o n Posft O ffices a n d P o s t R o a d s.
r o ll c a ll.
T h a t w a s t h e e ig h t h t im e t h e r o ll c a ll w a s m e n ­
A b ill ( S . 3 6 1 1 ) g r a n tin g a p e n s io n to A n n a J , S h e p h e r d ; a n d tio n e d .
A b ill (S « B 6 1 2 ) g r a n t in g a n in c r e a s e o f p e n s io n to W illia m B .
W h e n r e fe r e n c e w a s m a d e to t h a t la s t n ig h t t h e S e n a to r fr o m
W a r r e n (W ith a c c o m p a n y in g p a p e r s ) ; to t h e C o m m itte e on N e w H a m p s h ir e s u g g e s te d t h a t t h e te r m h a d b een in te r p o la t e d ,
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a s t h e S e n a t o r w o u ld h a v e t h e c o u n t r y b e li e v e —
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A b ill ( S . 3 6 2 0 ) t o r e in o v e t h e c h a r g e o f d e s e r tio n fr o m t h e b u t h e d id n o t s u g g e s t t h a t h e h im s e lf h a d in te r p o la t e d w o r d s
redord o f I s a a c T e r w i l l i f e r ; to t h e C o n im itte e o n M ilita r y w h ic h w e r e n o t tr u e , a s th e f a c t n o w a p p e a r s fr o m t h e R e c o r d .
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n e s s o f c o m m is s io n m e r c h a n ts e n g a g e d in in t e r s t a t e c o m m e r c e ;
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B y M r. O ’G O R M A N :
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m a n y fo r e ig n t r a d e c e n t e r s A m e r ic a n c o m m e r c e o f t e n fin d s it s C o m p le te S ta te -w id e p r o h ib itio n lia s b e e n a d o p te d in G e o r g ia ,
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v o te fo r t h e a b o litio n o f t h e traffic?,/the p o ll h a d n o o th e r p r a c ­ to a co m m o n g r a v e .
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tic a l e ffe c t t h a n to s h o w t h e f e e lin g o f t h e p eo p le. I n A u s t r a lia
th e te m p e r a n c e fo r c e s a r e b e c o m in g s tr o n g e r a n d m o r e d e te r ­ C o n g r e s s f o r a p r o h ib itio n a m e n d m e n t to t h e F e d e r a l C o n s t it u ­
tio n m a r k a d is t in c t s t a g e in t h e w a r a g a in s t a lc o h o l, b u t t h e y
m in e d e v e r y y e a r .
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t io n s a n d r e s tr ic te d in o t h e r s b y a n a g r e e m e n t a m o n g 18 1777, 12 y e a r s b e fo r e th e p r e s e n t C o n s t it u t io n c a m e in to b e in g ,
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th e B r u s s e ls g e n e r a l a c t o f 1 8 9 0 . T h e im p o r ta tio n o f a lc o h o lic r e s o lu t io n :
liq u o r s in to t h e te r r it o r y u n d e r t h is a g r e e m e n t is a ls o p r o h ib ite d .
R e s o l v e d , T h a t i t b e r e c o m m e n d e d t o t h e s e v e r a l l e g i s l a t u r e s In t h e
A n in te r n a tio n a l f e d e r a t io n h a s b e e n fo r m e d f o r t h e p r o te c tio n o f U n it e d S t a t e s im m e d i a t e l y t o p a s s l a w s t h e m o s t e f f e c t u a l f o r p u t t i n g
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I n to x ic a tin g liq u o r s in to t h a t c o u n tr y . H e i s u s in g e v e r y m e a s ­ o f m en r e s t s f a r m o r e la r g e ly w it h s o c ie ty t h a n m a y b e g e n e r ­
a lly su p p o s e d . P e o p le w h o k e e p t h e ir o w n l i v e s b la m e le s s h a v e
u re a t h is c o m m a n d t o p r e v e n t t h e in tr o d u c tio n in to h is k in g d o m
o f w in e , b e e r , w h iik y , a n d o th e r in to x ic a n t s , a ll o f w h ic h h e b y n o m e a n s e n t ir e ly m e t t h e ir d u ty to h u m a n ity o r to G od.
W e w h o p e r m it a tra ffic to c o n t in u e t h a t f ills t h e p e n ite n t ia r ie s ,
n a ils E u r o p e a n p o iso n .
W h e n K h a m a , K in g o f B e c h u a n a la n d , is s u e d a n o r d e r so m e t h e j a ils , th e a s y lu m s , t h e h o s p it a ls , th e p o o r h o u se s , a n d t h e
20 y e a r s a g o p n S h ih itin g t h e m a n u f a c t u r e o r s a le o f in t o x ic a t ­ p o tt e r ’s fie ld s a r e g u ilt y o f s e r io u s d e r e lic tio n . W e w h o p e r ­
in g b e v e r a g e s w it h in h is d o m a in , t h e o r d e r w a s d is r e g a r d e d by m it a tra ffic t o c o n t in u e t h a t w ill m a k e C h aos o f g o v e r n m e n ts
tlie w h it e t r a c e r s . K h a m a a n d o th e r n a t iv e c h ie f s w h o w e r e a n d b e a s t s o f m e n a r e c u lp r its b e fo r e t h e b a r o f t r u th . A n d
f o llo w in g h is E x a m p le a p p e a le d t o Q u e e n V ic to r ia fo r a s s is t a n c e , u n til w e b e g in a n a ffir m a tiv e m o v e m e n t a g a in s t e v ils t h a t
th r e a te n to e n g u lf m a n k in d , u n til w e t e r m in a t e t h e te r r ib le
an d s h e r e p l i e d :
p a r tn e r s h ip b e tw e e n t h e G o v e r n m e n t o f t h i s c o u n tr y a n d t h e
I a p p r o v e A k e p r o v is io n e x c lu d in g s t r o n g d r in k fr o m y o u r c o u n tr y .
liq u o r tr a d e , a p a r tn e r s h ip w h e r e b y t h e r e v e n u e s t h a t s u s t a in
I f e e l s t r o n g l y in t h e m a t t e r , a n d a m g la d t o se e t h e c h i e f s h a v e d e t e r ­
m in e d t o k e e p s o g r e a t a c u r s e f r o m t h e i r p e o p le .
t h e R e p u b lic — y e a , o u r v e r y s a la r ie s a s S e n a to r s o f t h e U n ite d
I t w a s ; t h is n a t iv e r u le r , K h a m a , w h o s a id on a n o th e r o c c a ­ S t a t e s r e p r e s e n t m e n ’s b r o k e n b o d ie s, m e n ’s w a s t e d liv e s , t h e
w id o w ’s a n d t h e o r p h a n ’s c r y , t h e w h it e s l a v e ’s b a r t e r e d
sio n :
sh a m e — w e s h a ll in v it e a n d w e s h a ll d e s e r v e a n y d is a s t e r t h a t
To
a g a i n s t d r i n k is t o fi g h t a g a i n s t d e m o n s a n d n o t a g a i n s t m e n .
i dread * t h e w h i t e m a n ’ s d r i n k m o r e t h a n t h e A s s e g a i s o f t h e M a t a b e l e ,
m a y o v e r w h e lm t h e N a t io n o r t h e r a c e .
[ A p p l a u s e . in t h e
W h i c h / k i l l m e n ’ s b o d i e s a n d i t is q u i c k l y o v e r ; b u t d r i n k p u t s d e v i l s
g a lle r ie s .]
in t o m e n a n d d e s t r o y s b o t h t h e i r s o u l s a n d t h e i r b o d i e s f o r e v e r .
Its
W o u jfd s n e v e r h e a l.
M r. T H O M P S O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , a s t h i s i s a q u e s tio n in
A n d t h u s i t c o m e s to p a s s t h a t t h i s n a t iv e A f r ic a n c h ie f h a s w h ic h K a n s a s h a s h a d lo n g e r a n d b e t te r e x p e r ie n c e t h a n a n y
u tte r e d a t r u th t h a t t h e h ig h e s t c iv iliz a t io n s o f t h e w o r ld m a y o th e r S t a t e in th e U n io n , I d e s ir e to s a y a f e w w o r d s in s u p p o r t
o f th e r e s o lu tio n .
iv e ll t a k e s e r io u s ly to h e a r t.




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W e lin v e h a d S ta t e - w id e p r o h ib itio n a s a p a r t o f t h e K a n s a s
S t a t e c o n s t it u t io n lo n g e r th a n h a s e x is te d in a n y o t h e r S t a t e in
t h e U n io n . T h e K a n s a s L e g is la tu r e in 187!) v o te d b y j o in t r e s o ­
lu tio n to su b m it to a v o te o f t h e p e o p le an a m e n d m e n t to t h e
S t a t e c o n s t it u t io n f o r e v e r p r o h ib itin g t h e in a n n la c t u r e a n d s a le
o f in to x ic s itin g liq u o r s, e x c e p t fo r m e d ic in a l a n d s c ie n tif ic p u r ­
p o se s . T h is a m e n d m e n t v .a s a d o p te d by th e p e o p le at t h e g e n ­
e r a l e le c t io n in 1880. D u r in g th e 8 3 y e a r s s in c e th a t t im e th e
la w l e a n o t b een r e p e a le d , n or h a s t h e c o n s t it u t io n a l a m e n d ­
m e n t on w h ic h it is b a se d b een r e s u b m itte d to t h e p e o p le fo r
t h e ir a ffir m a tio n o r r e je c tio n
I f th e r e is a n y o n e q u e s tio n
w h ic h is p e r m a n e n tly s e t t le d in t h e m in d s o f th e p e o p le o f
K a n s a s it is t h e p r o h ib itio n q u e s tio n .
In m y j u d g m e n t, th e
nuesV ion w ill n e v e r a g a in b e s u b m itte d to th e p e o p le or selio t is lv a tte u n ite d to b e r e s u b m itte d by a n y o r g a n iz a t io n , p o lit i­
c a l o r o th e r w is e .
I f it sh o u ld be r e s u b m itte d , p r o h ib itio n w o u ld
c i r r y by a la r g e r v o te t h a n a n y o t h e r p r o p o sitio n t h a t c o u ld b e
p r e s e n te d to th e p e o p le o f K a n s a s .
It h a s b e e n e n t ir e ly e lim i­
n a te d fro m p o litic s , a n d t h e p e o p le a r e p r a c t ic a lly a u n it on th e
q u e s tio n o f r e t a in in g it a s th e fu n d a m e n ta l la w o f th e S ta te .
A f t e r t h is lo n g tr ia l a n d e x p e r ie n c e w it h t h e la w f u lly 5)0 per
e o n , o f t h e p e o p le w o u ld v o t e fo r i t s c o n t in u a n c e a n d a r e f a v o r ­
a b le to it s e x t e n s io n th r o u g h o u t t h e N a t io n . O u r firm sta n d
f o r th e la w is p r o o f o f t h e s t r e n g t h o f c h a r a c t e r o f o u r c it iz e n s
a n d a c o n s ta n t e x a m p le in p r a c t ic a l r e fo r m to a ll t h e S t a t e s o f
t h e N a tio n .
T h e c lo s in g o f t h e s a lo o n s a n d j o in t s in t h e S t a t e h a s h a d a
m o st e x c e lle n t e ffe c t u p on t h e m o r a ls a s w e ll a s t h e m a te r ia l
i n t e r e s t s o f t h e p e o p le o f th e S ta t e , so m u c h so th a t no o n e w it h
tile b e s t i n t e r e s t s o f th e p e o p le a n d t h e S t a t e a t h e a r t d e s ir e s to
g o h a ck to tlie o ld o r d e r o f t h in g s u n d e r th e s a lo o n . A m o n g t h e
m o st b e n e fic ia l r e s u lts o f th e o p e r a tio n o f t h e la w a r e b e tte r
h o m e s , h a p p ie r a n d w e a lt h ie r f a m ilie s - h ig h e r s t a n d a r d s or e d u ­
c a tio n a m i in te llig e n c e , a n d a la r g e r e d u c tio n in c r im e .
th e se
a r e tlie n a tu r a l a n d I n e v ita b le r e s u lts o f p r o h ib itio n w h e r e v e r
e f f e c t iv e ly e n fo r c e d . H u t t h e b e st r e s u lt o f a ll is in t h e fa c t
t h a t o f t h e h a lf m illio n b o y s a n d g ir ls in K a n s a s o n ly a v e r y
s m a ll p r o p o r tio n h a v e e v e r se e n a n often s a lo o n . C h ild r e n a r e
g r o w in g to m a n h o o d a n d w o m a n h o o d w it h o u t th e te m p t a tio n or
e v il in flu e n c e o f th e sa lo o n .
D u r in g t h e 8 3 y e a r s o f p r o h ib itio n t h e illit e r a c y o f o u r p e o p le
h a s b e e n r e d u c e d fr o m 49 p er c e n t to 2 iter c e n t, a n d t ills
t r iflin g a m o u n t is a lm o s t e n t ir e ly a m o n g t h e fo r e ig n e le m e n t
iu t h e m in in g • s e c tio n o f th e s o u t h e a s t .
W ith 1D#> c o n n u o s
in t h e S t a t e 87 o f th e m h a v e no in s a n e . 54 h a v e no f e e b le ­
m in d e d . 0 0 h a v e n o in e b r ia te s , a n d w h a t f e w th e r e a r e c o m e fro m
t h e c i t i e s w h ic h d e fie d th e la w u n til r e c e n t y e a r s . T h e r e i s o n ly
1 p a u fter to e v e r y 3 .0 0 0 p o p u la tio n , a n d th e r e a r e ..8 c o u n ty
p o o r f a r m s w h ic h h a v e no in m a te s .
In Ju ly*
Go c o iu ily
j a i l s w e r e e m p ty a n d 6 5 c o u n tie s h a d no p r is o n e r s s o i l i n g
se n te n c e .
S in c e t h e e s ta b lis h m e n t o f p r o h ib itio n th e p o p u la ­
tio n o f K a n s a s lia s in c r e a s e d m o r e th a n a n y o f th e s u r r o u n d in g
S ta t e s , a n d h e r w e a lt h h a s in c r e a s e d u n til it h a s b e c o m e th e
r ic h e s t S t a le in Ih e U n io n p er c a p ita . A lth o u g h w e s u ffe r e d
o n e o f t h e w o r s t d r o u g h ts in th e h is t o r y o f th e S t a t e la st s u m ­
m er. r e c e n t s t a t e m e n t s fr o m t h e h a n k s s h o w t h a t in th e !)•!<*
S t a t e b a n k s th e r e is on d e p o s it belonging to th e p e o p le o f
K a n s a s a b o u t $15^6,000.000. a n d on d e p o s it in th e 218 n a tio n a l
b a n k s a b o u t $90.(*0,000. m a k in g a t o ta l of $ 210.060 000. o r a b o u t
$ 1 2 8 f o r e v e r y m a n . w o m a n , a n d c h ild in th e S ta t e .
U n til 1 0 0 9 K a n s a s p e r m itte d d r u g s t o r e s to se ll w h is k y an d
o th e r in t o x ic a t in g liq u o r s f o r m e d ic in a l p u r p o se s . T h is p r iv ile g e
w a s g r o s s ly all u sed , a n d th e S t a t e le g is la t u r e , in 1905), p a sse d , a
la w p r o h ib itin g th e s a le o f in t o x ic a t in g liq u o r fo i a n y p u r p o se
w h a tev er.
T h e S t a t e h a n k d e p o s it s o f t h e S t a t e w h ic h lift'd
t h e r e t o f o r e b e e n g a in in g g r a d u a lly o n ly a b o u t a m illio n d o lla r s
a y e a r m a d e a s u d d e n in c r e a s e o f $ 1 4 ,0 0 0 ,0 9 0 . o r fro m $ 8 3 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0
to $ 5)7.000.000 a t t h a t tim e . In a d d itio n to t h is tlie in c r e a s e in
w e a lt h w ith in t h e p a st 10 y e a r s lia s b een at th e r a t e >f
SV N )0 0 0 0 0 0 per y e a r . T h e a s s e s s e d v a lu a tio n o f p r o p e r ty fo r
t a x a t io n is s u ffic ie n t to g iv e e v e r y m a n . w o m a n , an d c h ild in
t h e S t a t e $ 1 ,7 0 0 . w h ile t h e a v e r a g e w e a lt h in t h e N a tio n is
o n ly a b o u t $ 1 ,2 0 0 . I s it n o t r e a s o n a b le to b e d e y e an d f a ir to
s.i.v th a t 88 y e a r s o f p r o h ib itio n h a s h a d s o m e t h in g to do w it h
t h is g r a n d r e s u l t ?
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ju d ic ia l d istr ic t o f K a n s a s . I w a s a s k e d to g iv e m y o p in io n o f
t h e effectst o f t h e la w in th a t p a r t ic u la r lo c a lity , a n d I w r o te
a le tte r s e tt in g f o r th m y v ie w s a t t h a t tim e , w h ic h h a v e not
m a t e r ia lly c h a n g e d , a n d l d e s ir e to r e a d it u o w a s a p a r t o f
m y r e m a r k s o n t h is o c c a s io n .
It is a Pleasure to sav that convictions are loss difficult In my
Alsu-let for violations of the prohibitory law than for ti e violation of
. rilninni liiws of the s ta le . P,y a rigid enforcem ent of the
h,w for many vears. the former prejudice o f the people again st the
low has completely changed to an extrem e bias in its favor. When
y jury' is uaw impaneled to try one charged w ith the violation of th is




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law, instead of a juror d isqu alifyin g, ns he formerly did, because of
prejudice against the law, lie uow often disqualifies on Account of I ~
fr a n k adm ission of extrem e bias in its favor: find.-'frequentlv
l as to be taken on the part of the court in protecting the rights of S
defendant to prevent a conviction w ith out sufficient"evidence to sustai
it
\ man could no more start a jo in t in Garden C ity, or any oti e?
southw estern Kansas town, than he .could w illfu lly apply a torch
one of our best buildings.
No good citizonJw oufd stan d for it
matter w hat his view s on the liquor question
•
T he result is. instead of being w hat was formerly considered tu„
most law less section -of the State, w e , have become the most h, ,
abiding people on the- lace of the earth.
Lhis judicial district, c0„
s is t n g of the nine southw estern count fete, embraces a territory Pt, ",
?n size to the entire State of Connecticut with little old Llhode [s I ' l l
thrown in, yet in most of the counl.es there has not been a erim "
case on the dockets for over tu years, and in some of the counties fi eri
k,1s Dot [)een a civil difficulty ol suthcient im portance to ju stify ip®
c a llin g of a jury for the same length of tim e. One or two days i / su ^
eient time to transact the entive. eom t business ot a re ular term m
of the live southw estern counties, ilie old argum ent th at no one wm
settle" in a prohibition fimttnuinty ,^ .a n sw e re d by the fact th at
uooulntion has more than fJoublod in
la s* foi.n y°ars. and Instruct
nf nrun.rtv decreasing in value it has elHunced in value from lo o „
1 ooo per cent. I k n o i/o f no one in the p o S to u s e or in jail in any of
P ese nine " u n ties, a.Kl our people are as W*K!
happy. « nd ,;vro°J.
nernus as can be found anyw here in the w orlllSn nd may rightfully
challenge com p an ion w ith any other sim ilar tc ir ilo r y w ith join ts or
open saloons.
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W b a t I rfnid a t t h a t t im e a s to c o n d itio n s in m y j u d ic ia l
d is t r ic t c o u ld h a v e b een s a id o f m o st o f th e o t h e r ju d ic ia l d is ­
t r ic t s o f t h e S ta t e , a n d r e m a in a b o u t t h e s a m e to -d a y .
K a n s a s w e lc o m e s t h is r e s o lu tio n , a n d I sljp l l - g i,. [jly -"p ri |
e v e r y s e r v ic e p o s s ib le to s e c u r e tte p a s s a g e , a n d t h e r e b y ai?f ju
seep'row i £q ,v t h e N a tio n t h e b e n e fic e n t e f fe c ts w h ic h h a v e a lr e a d y
b een r e a liz e d in K a n s a s .
Mr. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t . I fe e l it m y d u ty a s a M em b er
o f t h is b o d y to e x p r e s s m y p r o fo u n d s a t is f a c t io n a n d m y co r d ia l
•a c q u ie sc e n c e iu t h e p r o p o sa l o ffe r e d to t h i s b o d y b y t h e s p le n d id
y o u n g S e n a to r fr o m T e x a s [M r. S h e p p a r d }. I a p p r o v e o f th is
c o n s t it u t io n a l a m e n d m e n t. I a m g la d to s e e it in tr o d u c e d .
T h e e a s te r n p a r t o f m y o w n S ta t e , c o n s is t in g o f t h e p j Vu
C iv iliz e d T r ib e s o f I n d ia n s , h a s h a d p r o h ib itio n u n d e r t h e
In d ia n t r e a t ie s fo r a lo n g p e r io d o f tim e , d u e to t h e r e c o g n itio n
b y th e In d ia n p e o p le o f t h e b a n e fu l e f f e c t s o f t h is traffic.
ia
a d m it t in g O k la h o m a in to t h e U n io n , t h e S e n a t e o f th e U n ite d
S t a t e s im p o s e d upon O k ln lio m n h c o n d itio n w h io h th e b e st
p e o p le o f O k la h o m a s o u g h t a n d d e s ir e d — t h a t t h e S t a t e sh o u ld
be in tr o d u c e d in to t h e U n io n w it h p r o h ib itio n a t le a s t fo r th e
e a s te r n p a rt o f O k la h o m a , w h e r e t h e t r e a t y o b lig a t io n s o f th e
U n ite d S t a t e s w e r e t r a n s f e r r e d fr o m t h e U n ite d S t a t e s to th e
p r o p o sed C o m m o n w e a lth a b o u t to e n t e r t h e U n io n , a n d th e n I
c a m p a ig n e d O k la h o m a iu f a v o r o f S t a t e - w id e p r o h ib itio n , w h ic h
w a s a d o p te d a f t e r a fig h t w it h t h e t'q n o r in t e r e s t s . _
I s h o u ld f e e l d e r e lic t in m y d u ty to h u m a n b e in g s i f i ffpj
n o t u o w , a t t h e fir st o p p o r tu n ity , e x p r e s s m y s e lf e m p h a tic a lly
in f a v o r o f t h i s p r o p o sa l.
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T h e o n ly v a lu e a s e a t u p on t h e flo o r o f t h e S e n a te h a s th a t
is w o r th y o f a m a n is t h e o p p o r tu n ity it a ffo r d s to s e r v e o th e r
m en . 1 h o p e t h e S e n a t e m a y h o n o r i t s e l f by p a s s in g t h is pro­
p o sa l a s p r o m p tly a s it c a n b e d o n e u n d e r t h e o l d e r o f b u sin e s s
in t h is b o d y . [ A p p la u s e in t h e g a lle r ie s .]
T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T .
T h e C h a ir i s c o m p e lle d to s ta te
to th e o c c u p a n t s o f t h e g a lle r ie s , w h o a r e e v id e n t ly str a n g ersiu t h e c it y , t h a t it m u s t b e p e r f e c t ly a p p a r e n t t h a t b u sin e s s
c a n n o t b e c o n d u c te d on t h e flo o r o f t h e S e n a t e i f th e g a lle r ie s
a r e to c o n tr o l t h e b u s in e s s . T h e r e is a g r e a t d e a l o f o b je c tio n
bv S e n a to r s to m a n if e s t a t io n s , e it h e r o f p le a s u r e o r o f ,ij8.
p le a s u r e , on t h e p a r t o f th e g a l l e i i e s .
l l i e i e i s n o w p en d in g
a r u le , n o t y e t a d o p te d , to p r o h ib it it a b s o lu t e ly . It is a so u rce
o f r e g r e t to a p r e s id in g officer to be c o m p e lle d to c a ll a tte n tio n
to w h a t m a n if e s t ly m ig h t le a d to a v e r y s e r io u s b r e a c h of
d e c o r u m i f lo n g c o n tin u e d .

BANKING AND CURRENCY.
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s id e r a tio n ou fi t h e b ill (11. It. i S 3 1 ) to p i on id e l o i t h e e s ta b lis h ­
m e n t o f F e d e r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s, to f u r n is h a n e l a s t ic c u r r e n c y ,
lo a ffo r d m e a n s ol' r e d is c o u n t in g c o m m e r c ia l p a p e r , to e s ta b lis h
a m o r e e f fe c tiv e s u p e r v is io n o f b a n k in g in t h e U n ite d S ta te s ,
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d e la y u n til a f u r t h e r tim e , I w ill n o t p r e s s it.
M r. W E E K S . T h e r e a r e t w o or t h r e e S e n a t o r s on t h i s sid e
w a it in g to S p ea k , a n ti I. th in k w e o u g h t to d e f e r t h e c o m m e n c e ­
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h a v e b e e n s u g g e s t e d w o u ld b e v o t e d u p o n a s t h e s e c tio n s w e r e
reach ed .
M r. O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t , a s I u n d e r s ta n d t h e p a r lia m e n ­
t a r y r u le s , t h e r e a r e t w o w a y s in w h ic h t h i s m a y b e d o n e . W e
c a n e it h e r t a k e u p t h e b ill a s i t p a s s e d t h e H o u s e a n d p r o ­
p o s e a m e n d m e n ts to t h e H o u s e t e x t, w h ic h f in a lly , w h e n t h a t
p r o c e s s h a s b e e n c o n c lu d e d , w o u ld t h e n b e b e fo r e t h e S e n a te a s
a c o m p e tit iv e m e a s u r e , w it h t h e a m e n d m e n t m o v e d a s a su b ­
s t it u t e b y t h e c h a ir m a n o f th e c o m m it t e e ; or, o n t h e o th e r h a n d ,
a s t h e s u b s t it u t e p r o p o se d , s e c tio n b y s e c tio n , c o m e s u p, an
a m e n d m e n t m a y b e p r o p o se d to i t s e c tio n b y s e c tio n .
M r. B R I S T O W . I u n d e r s ta n d t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
h a s m o v e d t h e b ill w h ic h h e h a s r e p o r te d to t h e S e n a te a s a su b ­
s t it u t e f o r t h e H o u s e b ill, w h ic h w a s r e p o r te d b a c k b y t h e c o m ­
m itte e .
S e c tio n 1 o f t h e s u b s t it u t e p r o p o se d b y t h e S e n a to r
fr o m O k la h o m a i s p r a c t ic a lly t h e s a m e a s s e c tio n 1 o f t h e
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M r. O W E N . Y e s ; t h a t is tr u e .
M r. B R I S T O W . S o th e r e w i l l b e n o c o n tr o v e r s y in r e g a r d
to s e c tio n 1, I u n d e r s ta n d .
M r. O W E N . N o.
M r. B R I S T O W . T h e n w h e n w e c o m e to s e c tio n 2, a s I u n ­
d e r s ta n d — I m a y b e m is t a k e n in t h i s — t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e ­
b r a s k a p r o p o s e s to o ffe r a s u b s tit u te fo r s e c tio n 2 a s a n a m e n d ­
m e n t to th e H o u s e b ill. T h a t w o u ld b e p e r f e c t in g t h e t e x t o f
t h e H o u s e b ill b e fo r e t h e s u b s tit u te o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la ­
h o m a i s v o te d u p o n ; or, i f th e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a d e s ir e d ,
h e c o u ld o ffe r s e c tio n 2 a s a s u b s tit u te fo r t h a t s e c tio n o f t h e
s u b s tit u te , w h ic h w o u ld b e a n a m e n d m e n t to t h e a m e n d m e n t.
M r. O W E N . Y e s ; t h a t c a n be d o n e.
M r. B R I S T O W . I n e it h e r e v e n t, t h e v o te w i l l c o m e f ir s t o n
t h e a m e n d m e n t to t h e a m e n d m e n t or u p o n t h e p e r f e c t io n o f t h e
H o u s e t e x t b e fo r e t h e a m e n d m e n t o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
is v o te d u p o n .
M r. O W E N . Y es.
M r. B R I S T O W . W o u ld i t n o t b e b e tte r f o r u s to p r o c e e d in
t h a t w a y t h a n to t a k e u p t h e s e c t io n s o f th e b ill w h e r e th e r e
i s n o c o n tr o v e r s y a n d p a s s o v e r t h o s e w h e r e t h e r e i s c o n tr o ­
versy ?
M r. O W E N . T h a t i s w h a t I p r o p o se . I th o u g h t t h a t w o u ld
b e t h e m o s t o r d e r ly w a y a n d t h e m o s t c o n v e n ie n t w a y .
M r. B R I S T O W . T h e n , w h e n t h e r e is n o o n e to sp e a k , se c ­
t io n 1 w ill b e ta k e n u p a n d d is p o s e d o f.
M r. O W E N . Y es.
M r. B R I S T O W . A n d t h e n s e c tio n 2 w i l l b e ta k e n u p a n d t h e
a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d .
M r. O W E N . T h e a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d .
M r. B R I S T O W . T h a t is e n t ir e ly s a t is f a c t o r y to m e.
M r. O W E N . A s a n a m e n d m e n t to t h e a m e n d m e n t.
M r. B R I S T O W . Y e s.
M r. S M O O T . D id I u n d e r s t a n d t h e S e n a to r to s a y t h a t th e r e
w e r e tw o w a y s o f p r o c e e d in g t o t h e c o n s id e r a tio n o f t h is
m e a su r e ?
M r. O W E N . T h a t is w h a t I u n d e r s ta n d .
M r. S M O O T . F ir s t to t a k e t h e H o u s e b ill a n d a m e n d t h a t or,
se c o n d ly , to t a k e t h e s u b s t it u t e a n d a m e n d t h e s u b s tit u te ?
M r. O W E N . Y es.
M r. SM O O T . I k n o w o f n o r u le o f t h is b o d y t h a t w o u ld a llo w
t h e s u b s t it u t e to b e ta k e n u p a n d v o te d u p o n in t h e w a y o f a n
a m e n d m e n t to a s u b s tit u te . T h e o n ly b ill t h a t i s b e fo r e t h e
S e n a te i s t h e H o u s e b ill. T h e o n ly w a y w e c a n p r o c e e d w it h it
is to a m e n d t h e b ill e it h e r b y a n a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d b y t h e
S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a o r a n a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d b y a n y o th e r
S e n a to r , b u t w e c a n n o t a m e n d a s u b s t it u t e — —
M r. O W E N . I t is a n a m e n d m e n t.
M r. S M O O T . T h e n it w i l l h a v e to b e o ffe r e d a s a n a m e n d ­
m e n t to th e H o u s e b ill. T h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a c a n n o t
o ffe r a n a m e n d m e n t to y o u r s u b s t it u t e o r a n y s e c tio n o f y o u r
s u b s tit u te . A ll h e c a n d o i s to o ffe r a n a m e n d m e n t to a n y o f t h e
P a r a g r a p h s o f t h e H o u s e b ill. T h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a h a s
a p e r f e c t r ig h t to o ffe r h is s u b s t it u t e , b u t it c a n b e o ffe r e d o n ly
a s a w h o le in p la c e o f t h e H o u s e b ill. T h a t c a n b e d o n e , o f
co u rse.
M r. O W E N . T h e S e n a to r m a k e s t h e o b s e r v a tio n t h a t it i s a
s u b s titu te .
I t i s o ffe r e d in t h e fo r m o f a n a m e n d m e n t, a n d
b e in g a n a m e n d m e n t p r o p o se d , a n a m e n d m e n t to t h e a m e n d m e n t
c a n b e o ffe r e d u n d e r t h e p a r lia m e n t a r y r u le .
M r.,,S M O O T . Y e s ; b u t in o r d e r t h a t a n a m e n d m e n t c a n b e
o ffe r e d to a n a m e n d m e n t, i t m u s t fir s t b e o ffe r e d to t h e b ill
it s e lf , a n d t h a t i s t h e H o u s e b ill.
M r. C L A R K E 'd if A r k a n s a s . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e s it u a t io n p r e ­
se n te d o u g h t n o t to c a u s e a n y d iffic u lty . W h ils t t h e r e p o r t
p r e s e n te d to t h e S e n a te b y t h e c h a ir m a n o f t h e C o m m itte e on
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i t is s im p ly a n a m e n d m e n t in t h e fo r m o f a p r o p o s itio n to s t r ik e
o u t a ll o f t h e H o u s e b ill a f t e r t h e e n a c t in g c la u s e a n d to in s e r t
n e w m a tte r . O u r r u le s p r o v id e f o r t h a t s it u a t io n v e r y d e fi­
n ite ly a n d v e r y s a t i s f a c t o r i l y :
P e n d i n g a m o t io n t o s t r i k e o u t a n d i n s e r t , t h e p a r t t o b e s t r i c k e n
o u t a n d th e p a r t to b e in s e r t e d s h a ll e a c h b e r e g a r d e d , f o r th e p u r p o s e
o f a m e n d m e n t a s a q u e s t io n ; a n d m o t io n s to a m en d th e p a r t to b e
s t r i c k e n o u t s h a ll h a v e p r e c e d e n c e .

I t w ill b e e n t ir e ly c o m p e te n t f o r t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
to m o v e to s t r ik e o u t a ll o f t lie H o u s e b ill a f t e r t h e e n a c t in g
c la u s e a n d in s e r t t h e m a tt e r b e p r e s e n te d . T h e n i t w o u ld
b e o p e n to o th e r S e n a to r s w h o d e s ir e d t o p e r f e c t th e H o u s e b ill
b y o ffe r in g a m e n d m e n ts to t h a t ; a n d w h e n t h e S e n a te h a s d is ­
p o s e d o f su c h p r o p o se d a m e n d m e n ts t h e q u e s t io n w ill c o m e in
c o m p e titio n b e tw e e n t h e s u b s t it u t e o ffe r e d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m
O k la h o m a a n d th e o r ig in a l H o u s e b ill. B u t u n t il t h e H o u s e h ill
h a s b een p e r fe c te d , a s w e m ig h t sa y , t h e v o t e on t h e s u b s t it u t e
c o u ld n o t t a k e p la c e . U n d e r o u r r u le th e r e d o e s n o t se e m to
b e a n y w a y b y w h ic h t h a t r e s u lt c a n b e o b v ia te d . C a llin g
i t a s u b s tit u te d o e s n o t g iv e i t a n y a d d itio n a l r ig h t s o r d e p r iv e
i t o f t h e la w f u l c h a r a c te r o f a n a m e n d m e n t, b u t i t i s a c o m ­
p r e h e n s iv e a m e n d m e n t, in i t s le g a l e ffe c t, to s t r ik e o u t t h e
H o u s e b ill a n d in s e r t t h e n e w m a tt e r p r o p o se d b y t h e c h a ir ­
m a n o f t h e c o m m itte e .
M r. SM O O T . M r. P r e s id e n t , I f u l l y a g r e e w it h t h e S e n a t o r ’
fr o m A r k a n s a s t h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a c a n o ffe r liis
a m e n d m e n t b y m o v in g to s t r ik e o u t a ll a f t e r t h e e n a c t in g c la u s e
a n d in s e r tin g . T h e r e is n o q u e s t io n a b o u t t h a t. B u t t h a t i s
n o t w h a t th e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a sa id . T h e S e n a to r fr o m
O k la h o m a s a id t h e r e w e r e t w o w a y s to p r o c e e d w it h i t ; t h a t is ,
to c o n s id e r t h e H o u s e , b ill a d d o ffe r t h e a m e n d m e n t to t h e
H o u s e b ill, or t a k e h is a m e n d m e n t a n d p e r f e c t t h a t w it h o u t
o ffe r in g it a s a n a m e n d m e n t t o t h e H o u s e h ill.
M r. B A C O N . M r. P r e s id e n t , t h e p r in c ip le i s c o r r e c tly r e c o g ­
n iz e d , I th in k , a s s t a t e d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m A r k a n s a s . A t t h e
s a m e t im e I w ill s u g g e s t that, t h e r e is p o s s ib ly a s im p le r m e th o d
o f p r o c e d u r e w h ic h w o u ld r e c o g n iz e t lie p r in c ip le t h e S e n a to r
n o w h a s s ta te d .
T h e f a m ilia r r u le a n d t h e o r d in a r y m e th o d o f p r o c e d u r e i s
t h a t w h e r e th e r e i s a s u b s ta n t iv e p r o p o s itio n , s u c h a s a n o r ig ­
in a l b ill, a n d a n o th e r s u b s ta n t iv e p r o p o s itio n i s p r o p o se d to b e
s u b s tit u te d f o r it, a s i s t h is c a s e , by s t r ik in g o u t a ll a f t e r tlie
e n a c t in g c la u s e a n d in s e r t in g a s u b s tit u te in lie u o f it, th e
p a r lia m e n t a r y b o d y d e a ls w it h e a c h o f t h o s e s e p a r a t e p r o p o ­
s it io n s s e p a r a te ly , t h e f r ie n d s o f e a c h h a v in g t h e o p p o r tu n it y to
p e r f e c t e a c h p a r t ic u la r m e a s u r e s e p a r a te ly . T h e n o n e i s p u t
a g a in s t t h e o th e r , a n d t h e b o d y c h o o s e s b e tw e e n t h e tw o . T h e
s im p le m e th o d o f p r o c e d u r e i s t h i s : I t m a tt e r s n o t, in t a k in g
t h a t c o u r s e , w h e t h e r t h e b o d y p e r m its t h e f r ie n d s o f t h e o r ig ­
in a l m e a s u r e fir s t to p e r f e c t i t a n d la y i t a s id e a n d t h e n l e t t h e
f r ie n d s o f t h e p r o p o se d s u b s t it u t e p e r fe c t t h a t, a n d a f t e r e a c h
h a s h a d th e a c t io n o f t lie b o d y in b r in g in g i t to t h e s h a p e w h e r e
t h o s e w h o a d v o c a t e t h e o n e o r tlie o t h e r p r e f e r to h a v e it, t h e n
t h e s u b s tit u te , o f c o u r s e , i s t h e fir s t p r o p o s itio n v o t e d u p o n by
t lie b o d y, a n d i f i t i s c a r r ie d , t h e n t h e o r ig in a l p r o p o s it io n i s
d is p la c e d , a n d t h e s u b s t it u t e s t a n d s in lie u o f it, a n d t h e b o d y
e n a c t s i t in to la w . B u t t h e im p o r ta n t t h in g i s t h a t e a c h p r o p o ­
s it io n i s d e a lt w it h s e p a r a te ly , a n d t h e r ig h t s o f a m e n d m e n t a r e
a ll t h e r ig h t s w h ic h b e lo n g to a n o r ig in a l p r o p o s itio n a n d n o t
r ig h t s w h ic h a r e lim it e d to t h e c a s e s o f a m e n d m e n ts .
F o r illu s t r a t io n , h e r e i s t lie o r ig in a l b ill.
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r e c o g n iz e d — a n d it i s t h e u n iv e r s a l p a r lia m e n t a r y r u le — o n ly
t w o a m e n d m e n ts a r e p e r m itte d to b e p e n d in g a t a tim e . I f t h e
s u b s t it u t e w e r e t r e a t e d s im p ly a s a n a m e n d m e n t, o f c o u r s e
th e r e c o u ld b e o n ly o n e a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d to t h e s u b s t it u t e ,
b e c a u s e a n a m e n d m e n t c a n n o t p a s s t h e se c o n d s ta g e . B u t if ,
f o r p u r p o s e s o f a m e n d m e n t, t h e s u b s t it u t e i s t r e a t e d a s a n
o r ig in a l p r o p o s itio n , t h e r e c a n b e t w o a m e n d m e n ts o ffe r e d to
a n y p r o v is io n o f t lia t s u b s tit u te . T h a t is t h e w a y in w h ic h it
i s d o n e.
O f c o u r s e t h e m o r e u s u a l p la n is t h a t t h e s u b s t it u t e s h a ll
fir s t b e ta k e n up a n d , t r e a t in g it a s a s u b s t a n t iv e o r ig in a l p r o p o ­
s it io n , p r o c e e d to a c t u p o n it b y a m e n d m e n t s w h ic h m a y b e p r o ­
p o s e d to it, a n d in t h a t w a y p e r f e c t in g it. W h e n t h a t -is d o n e
i t i s la id a s id e a n d t h e o r ig in a l p r o p o s itio n i s t h e n ta k e n up
a s a n o th e r o r ig in a l s u b s t a n t iv e p r o p o s itio n , a n d a ll t h e r ig h t s
o f a m e n d m e n t a p p ly t o th a t.
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m a tt e r i s c le a r ly s e t fo r th , in a s im p le r w a y t h a n in a n y o th e r
w o r k o n p a r lia m e n t a r y la w I h a v e e v e r r e a d .
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b o o k w h ic h c a n lie fo u n d in t h e L ib r a r y , k n o w n a s M e ll’s P a r lia ­
m e n ta r y P r a c tic e , in w h ic h t h i s p a r t ic u la r s u b j e c t is d e a lt w it h
a n d s t a t e d w it h v e r y m u c h m o r e c le a r n e s s a n d c o n c is e n e s s t h a n
I h a v e b e e n a b le to s t a t e it.
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M r. B A C O N . T h a t is th e w h o le p o in t in r e g a r d to th a t .
f a r a s th e q u e s tio n a s to w h e t h e r t h e o r ig in a l p r o p o sitio n
first c o n s id e r e d f o r a m e n d m e n t o r w h e t h e r t h e s u b s t it u t e i s
c o n sid e r e d fo r a m e n d m e n t, it i s in p r a c tic e n o t a m a tte r 0f
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th a t t h e t w o m e a s u r e s s h a ll b e e a c h c o n s id e r e d a s an o r ig il n .
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b e th e s t a t e o f th e record. T h e b ill w a s r e p o r te d b a c k fr o m th e
c o m m itte e .
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n ie n t o ffer ed by t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a . B u t t h e r id in g 0 f
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p e r fe c te d , th e n t h e a m e n d m e n t o f th e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a
c o m e s u p, an d th e a m e n d m e n t o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a is
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c h a ir m a n o f t h e c o m m itte e . A m I c o ir e c t in th a t ?
u .- O W E N . I u n d e r sta n d t h a t t h a t i s t h e c a s e .
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sp e c ific la n g u a g e o f lie r u le is th a t t h e o r ig in a l p r o p o s itio n
S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a w ill b e s ta te d .
s h a ll b e a m e n d e d by i t s fr ie n d s , so t h a t w h e n th e v o te c o m e s
T h e S e c b k t a b y . O n p a g e 1, a f t e r lin e 4 , it i s p r o p o se d to i n ­
t h a t in v o lv e s it s lif e it w ill be p e r fe c te d in i t s b e st fo rm .
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o f th e S e n a te a s lo n g a s t h e la s t c la u s e o f R u le IS is in e x i s t ­
e n c e , t h a t a s u b s t it u t e s h a ll be c o n s id e r e d first. T h e p r o p o si­
tio n to a m en d th e H o u s e h ill w ilt b e th e fir st m o tio n in o rd er,
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s u b s tit u te , o r w h a t e v e r n a m e .,y o u c h o o s e to a p p ly to i . p r e ­ s t a n t ia lly c o n c u r r e d in by b o th w in g s o f t lie c o m m it t e e a n d h a s
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m a tte r to d is p o s e o f a n a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d by th o s e w h o 1
m a y b e a d o p te d w it h o u t a n y f u r t h e r d is c u s s io n .
li e v e th a t th e t e x o f th e r fo u s e b ill sh o u ld b e a m e n d e d ,
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m a y b e la id o n t h e t a b le o r d th e r w is o d is p o s e d o f in s o m e r e g u ­ a m e n d m e n t.
la r p a r lia m e n ta r y w a y . S o w h en w e r e a c h t h e s u b s tit u te , if
T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T . T h e q u e s t io n is on a g r e e in g to th e
n o a m e n d m e n ts a r e a d o p te d to th a t, w e th e n t a k e th e H o u s e a m e n d m e n t p r o p o se d by t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a [M r. H i t c h ­
b ill a s it c a m e to u s a n d t h e s u b s ti u te a s p r e s e n te d b y t h e S e n ­
c o c k ].
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T h e a m e n d m e n t w a s a g r e e d to .
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IMr. W E E K S , a ir . P r e s id e n t , I w a n t to c a ll t h e A tte n tio n o f
d e a l w it h s u c h a m e n d m e n ts a s a r e o ffe r e d to t h e H o u s e b ill, b e ­ t h e S e n a te to o n e p h a s e o f I h is le g is la t io n w h ic h I t h in k h a s
c a u s e th e p r o p o s itio n th e n w ill b e m a d e to s t r ik e o u t a ll a f t e r n o t b e e n c o m p le te ly d is c u s s e d a n d b e c a u s e 1 h o v e s o m e iuforth e e n a c t in g c la u s e a n d in se r t in so lid o t h e p r o p o sitio n c o n ­ m atron, w h ic h , it s e e m s to m e , w ill b e o f in t e r e s t to t h e S e n a te .
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on R a n k in g a n d C u r r e n c y .
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T h e < h s e r r a tio n s o f th e S e n a to r fr o m G e o r g ia a r e v e r y
r e s e r v e b o a r d — w h e t h e r t h e h o a r d s h o u ld b e m a d e u p o f bank
g e n e r a lly c o r r e c t, a n d I d iffe r fr o m h im w it h m u c h h e s it a n c y ,
m en or sh o u ld b e c o m p o se d o f m e n w h o a r e n o t in a n y sen.se
bid I t h in k th e text: o f th e r u le is so p la in t h a t I am w a r r a n te d
b a n k m en , or sh o u ld h a v e s o m e b a n k lu e n a n d o t h e r s w h o h a v e
in d o in g it in t h is v a se . H e is e x a c t ly r ig h t a b o u t th e f a c t th a t h a d no b a n k in g e x p e r ie n c e b u t w h o iu tv e b e e n e n g a g e d in gen'
H ie t e x t to be s tr ic k e n o u t a n d t h e p r o v is io n to b e in s e r te d in o ral b u s in e s s p u r s u its . T h e c h a n g in g s e n t im e n t w a s refle c te d
lie u o f it c o n s t it u t e tw o p a r lia m e n ta r y q u e s tio n s , a n d th e y a r e in t h e d iffe r e n t b ills w h ic h c a m e in«> t h e H o u s e . T h e fir st b ill
to b e d isp o s e d o f in o rd er. U n d e r o u r r u le p r e c e d e n c e i s g iv e n
p r o v id e d t h a t t h r e e o f t lie m e m b e r s o f t h e r e s e r v e b o a r d sh o u ld
t o a n a m e n d m e n t off w ed to t h e o r ig in a l t e x t b e fo r e it is c o m ­ b e b a n k m e n ; t h e n e x t b ill p r o v id e d t h a t o n e sh o u ld b e a b an k
p e te n t fo r th e S e n a te to c o n s id e r t h e a d o p tio n o f t h e s u b s t it u t e
m a n ; a n d t h e n e x t b ill p r o v id e d t h a t n o n e o f t h e m e m b e r s o f
o r it s a m e n d m e n t. R e a lly th e r e is no ro o m fo r s e r io u s d is p u t e t h e r e s e r v e b o a rd s h o u ld b e b u n k e r s.
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a b o u t it. T i e te x t o f t h e r u le is s o p la in t h a t I t h iiik t h e r e th e r e w a s a r e a s o n f o r t h is l a * s o lu tio n o f t h e q u e s tio n , in th a t
w ill b e no d iffic u lty a b o u t it w h e n w e c o m e to d e a l w it h it
t h e d ir e c to r s o f E u r o p e a n c e n tr a ! b a n k s w e r e in n o c a s e b a n k e r s
p r a c tic a lly .
T h e r e is a m a te r ia l d iffe r e n c e b e tw e e n t h e b a n k e r a s w e
M r. H IT C H C O C K . M r. P r e s id e n t ——
u n d e r s ta n d h im to b e in m i s c o u n tr y a n d t h e b a n k e r a s h e i s
M r. B A C O N . I f t h e S e n a to r w ill p a rd o n m e a m o m e n t, t h e
u n d e r sto o d a b r o a d . M a n / m en e n g a g e d in m e r c a n t ile p u r su its
v ita l c o n s id e r a tio n in m y m in d is t h a t t h e tw o s h a ll b e c o n ­ in E u r o p e , e s p e c ia lly i a E n g la n d , a r e c la s s e d a s m e r c h a n ts
sid e r e d a s s u b s ta n t iv e p r o p o s itio n s in o r d e r t h a t a il r ig h t s o f
b u t t h e y a r e r e a lly m e r c h a n t b a n k e r s, e s p e c ia lly t h o s e e n g a g e d
a m e n d m e n t w h ic h w o u ld a p p ly t o a n o r ig in a l m e a s u r e m a y bo in fo r e ig n tr a d e .
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e n jo v e d b y e a c h . T h a t is th e v ita l t h in g a b o u t it.
t h e d ir e c t o r o f a bajrk i s a m e r c h a n t h e m a y b e a b a n k e r a s
T h e q u e s tio n n s to w h e th e r t h e s u b s t it u t e s h a ll be ta k e n u p
w e ll a s a m e r c h a n t ./ S o t h e s t a t e m e n t i s n o t in a n y s e n s e tru e
fir.-.t a n d p e r fe c te d o r w h e th e r t h e o r ig in a l b ill sh a ll b e ta k e n
th a t t h e g r e a t E u r o p e a n h a n k s h a v e n o t on t h e ir b o a r d s o f
up a n d p e r fe c te d is n o t v it a l, a n d it i s e n t ir e ly a g r e e a b le to m e
d ir e c to r s m en WR’o h a v e b een a c t iv e ly e n g a g e d in b a n k in g
th a t t h e b ill sh a ll he c o n sid e r e d fir st f o r a m e n d m e n t.
p u r s u its . I t is H u e t h a t, g e n e r a lly s p e a k in g , th e y a r e n o t a'ts
O f c o u r se I d o n o t k n o w t h a t t h e substitute w h ic h is to be
l i v e ly in te r e s t e d in jo in t - s t o c k b a n k s, b u t t h e r e a r e b a n k s of
o ffe r e d b y the S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a w ill or w ill n o t bo
s u e th e r e are?’ b a n k s o f d is c o u n t, a n d th e r e a r e o th e r c la s se s
amended 1 b e lie v e th e r e a r e s o m e a m e n d m e n ts t h a t h e h im ­ is
o f b a n k s in E u r o p e , w h ic h a r e r e p r e s e n te d o n t h e s e b oard s.
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In o r d e r to in d ic a t e t h a t t h is c o n t e n tio n is so u n d a n d to h a v e
to p e r fe c t h is s u b s tit u te b e fo r e h e o ffe r s t h e m e a s u r e w h ic h h e
it in t h e reco r d , I w a n t t o c a ll to t h e a t t e n t io n o f t h e S e n a te th e
p r o p o s e s by s t r ik in g out a ll a f t e r t h e e n a c t in g c la u s e an d
c h a r a c t e r o f t h e m e m b e r sh ip o f t h e d iff e r e n t -b oard s o f d ir e c to r s
in s e r t in g It. H e m u s t p e r fe c t t h a t b e fo r e h e m a k e s h i s m o tio n
o f t h e th r e e g r e a t E u r o p e a n c e n t r a l r e s e r v e b a n k s.
to s t r ik e o u t.

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v is io n s a n d t o w h ic h th e r e w o u ld n a tu r a lly l>e m a n y a m e n d ­
m e n ts p r o p o sed , . lid a n o th e r s u b s ta n t iv e p r o p o sitio n w h ic h it is
in te n d e d to s u b s t it u t e fo r it. w h ic h , o f c o u r s e , m u s t a ls o go
th r o u g h t h e c o m p lic a te d p r o c e s s e s o f a m e n d m e n t.
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m e n ta r y la w th a t o n ly tw o a m e n d m e n ts c a n b e p e n d in g a t a
t im e
T h e s u b s titu te , w h e n it is b e in g p e r fe c te d , is tr e n le d a s
a n o r ig in a l p r o p o sitio n . T h e o r ig in a l b ill, w h e n b e in g p e r fe c te d ,
i s a ls o tr e a t e d a s an o r ig in a l p r o p o sitio n . S o in e a c h c a s e t h e
t w o a m e n d m e n ts ca n b e p e n d in g a t t h e s a m e t im e f o r a n y
p a r tic u la r p ro v isio n in them .
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ilm t it is th e o n ly p r a c tic a b le o n e u n d e r w h ic h th e b o d y c a n
p ro ceed w ith o u t c o n fu s io n a n d w it h o u t d iffic u lty in d e a lin g w ith
a b ill w h e r e th e r e is a s u b s tit u te p r o p o se d fo r t h e w h o le o f it,
e s p e c ia lly w h e r e th e r e a r e m a n y s e c tio n s to it, a s in t h i s b ill.
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m ilia r w it h th e lit t l e book to w h ic h t h e S e n a to r fr o m G eo rg ia
r e f e r r e d , b u t I a m f a m ilia r w ith R u le X V I I I o f t h e S e n a te . T h e
o n ly d iffe r e n c e b e tw e e n th e d o c tr in e la id d o w n in th e l it t le b ook
r e fe r r e d to by th e S e n a to r a n il o u r r u le is th a t th e o r d e r c ite d
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M r. B R I S T O W . T h e C h a ir p r o b a b ly is r ig h t a s to th a t . I
h a v e b e e n o ffe r e d to t h e o r ig in a l b ill, a n d h a v e b e e n e it h e r t h in k i t w o u ld b e m o r e d iffic u lt to a m e n d t h e O w e n s u b s t it u t e
a d o p te d o r r e je c te d , t h e q u e s t io n t h e n w i l l c o m e u p o n t h e t h a n t h e H o u s e b ill. W h ile t h e H o u s e b ill w a s a g r e a t f a v o r it e
a m e n d m e n t o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a .
A s i t m u s t b e s o m e th r e e m o n th s a g o , it h a s lo s t i t s fr ie n d s , a n d I t h in k i t h a s
p a s s e d u p o n in i t s e n t ir e ty , i t w ill b e c o n s id e r e d f o r t h e p u r ­ n o n e n o w . B e lie v in g t h a t , I a m n o t s o m u c h in te r e s t e d in t h e
p o s e s o f t h e a m e n d m e n t a s a q u e s tio n , a n d t h e s a m e id e n tic a l a m e n d m e n ts t h a t a r e p r o p o se d to t h e H o u s e h ill. T h e c o n tr o ­
a m e n d m e n ts t h a t w e r e o ffe r e d to t h e o r ig in a l b ill m a y b e o ffe r e d v e r s y ;- a s I u n d e r sta n d it , i s b e t w e e n t h e a m e n d m e n ts w h ic h t h e
to t h e p r o p o se d a m e n d m e n t o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a .
t w o s e c tio n s o f th e c o m m itte e h a v e r e c o m m e n d e d to t h e H o u s e
T h e C h a ir d o e s n o t, h o w e v e r , r u le t h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m
b ill, a n d m y d e s ir e i s to h a v e t h e S e n a te e x p r e s s i t s p r e fe r e n c e
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a n d i f i t b e v o t e d d o w n o r i n e r t e d , e it h e r w a y , t h a t h e c a n b e c a u s e t h e y c o n ta in th e f u n d a m e n ta l d iffe r e n c e
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M r. O W E N . I f t h e S e n a to r w ill p e r m it m e, h e w ill h a v e
S e n a te m a y c h o o sp to p e r f e c t t h e o r ig in a l b i l l ; t h e n p e r f e c t a s t h e o p p o r tu n ity , u n d e r t h e r u lin g o f t h e C h a ir , fir st to o ffe r
t h e S e n a te m a y c h o o s e t o p e r f e c t t h e O w e d a m e n d m e n t.
s e c tio n b y s e c tio n t h e p r o p o se d a m e n d m e n ts to t h e H o u s e b ill.
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i s n o t in t h e C h a m b e r a t p r e s e n t, b e in g d e t a in e d o n s o m e w o r k o ffe r e d b y t h e c h a ir m a n . W h e n e a c h h a s b e e n f in a lly p e r fe c te d ,
t h a t h e h a s in c o n n e c tio n w it h t h i s b ill. T h e S e n a to r f r o |a t h e H o u s e m e a s u r e h a v in g b e e n p e r f e c t e d fir st, t h e m e a s u r e
I o w a d e s ir e s to o ffe r a n a m e n d m e n t to s e c tio n 2 o f t h e O w e n p r e s e n te d b y t h e c h a ir m a n h a v in g b e e n p e r f e c t e d se c o n d , th e n t h e
s u b s t it u t e in t h e e v e n t t h a t t h e H itc h c o c k s e c tio n 2 i s n o t in ­ fin a l v o t e w o u ld b e o n t h e a m e n d m e n t o ffe r e d a s a s u b s t i t u t e ,
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j ^ t, in a m e n d in g t h e H o u s e b i l l ;
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m o re lik e ly to b e t h e l a w t h a n t h e a m e n d e d H o u s e b ill.
M r. O W E N . W e c a n n o t h e a r t h e S e n a to r o n t h is sid e .
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M r. B R I S T O W . T h e n i t i s b e c a u s e t h e r e i s c o n fu s io n on t h e a p p o in te d in t h i s r e s p e c t, h o w e v e r , t h a t w e w i l l v o t e u p o n
o th e r sid e , f o r I t h in k I a m s p e a k in g lo u d e n o u g h to b e h e a l’d .
s e c tio n 2 a s s u b m itte d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a [M r
I s a y t h e S e n a to r fr o m I o w a d e s ir e s to a m e n d t h e O w en H itchcock ] a s a n a m e n d m e n t to t h e H o u s e b i l l ; t h a t w e s h a li
s u b s tit u te . N o w , d o I u n d e r s t a n d t h a t h e i s p r e c lu d e d fr o m h a v e to go th r o u g h t h e e n t ir e H o u s e b ill u n til w e h a v e a c t e d
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m e n ts h a v e b e e n o ffe r e d to t h e H o u s e b ill?
s ir e s to o ffe r to i t a n d d is p o s e o f th e m , a n d t h e n w e sh a ll h a v e
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . H e i s n o t p r e c lu d e d fr o m o ffe r in g to g o b a c k a n d s t a r t in a g a in w it h s e c tio n 2 o f t h e O w en s u b ­
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w h o le lin e . W h a t I w a n t e d w a s t o o ffe r t h e a m e n d m e n t s to
q u e s tio n u n til t h e o r ig in a l H o u s e h ill i s p e r fe c te d .
M r. B I lX N D E G E E . I w a n t e d t o a s k w h a t t h e s it u a tio n is e a c h s e c tio n a s w e w e n t a lo n g , so t h a t w h e n w e g o t ------a s to w h a t w e c a ll th e p r o p o se d O w e n a m e n d m e n t. I n o th e r - * M r . O W E N . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s
w o r d s , h a s t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a o ffe r e d h i s a m e n d m e n t
n o w o r h a s h e s im p ly h a d i t p r in te d a n d g iv e n n o tic e t h a t a t y ie ld t o t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a ?
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t h e p r o p e r t im e h e w ill o ffe r it ?
M r. O W E N . I s u g g e s t t h a t t h e d iffic u lty c a n b e e a s i ly o b ­
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . I t h a s b e e n o ffe r e d a n d r e a d , a n d it
v ia t e d b y h a v in g t h e t e s t m a d e in t h e S e n a te o n ly o n c e in s t e a d
i s p e n d in g u n til s o m e th in g e ls e i s o ffe r e d .
M r. B R A N D E G E E . T h e n i t i s a t p r e s e n t t h e o n ly p e n d in g o f t w ic e b y o ffe r in g t h e p r o p o se d a m e n d m e n ts to t h e s u b s t it u t e
o ffe r e d b y t h e c h a ir m a n .
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a m e n d m e n t to t h e b ill?
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b u t i f it i s t h e o n ly p e n d in g a m e n d m e n t I d o n o t c le a r ly se e t h e s a m e m a tte r . T h e S e n a to r a n d t h o s e w h o a g r e e w it h h im
b o w o t h e r a m e n d m e n ts s h a ll b e a c t e d u p o n b e f o r e a c tio n is h a v e th e r e f o r e t h e ir c h o ic e , e it h e r t h e o ffe r in g o f t h e s e m a t­
te r s t w ic e or o ffe r in g th e m o n c e , j u s t a s th e y p le a se .
ta k e n u p o n t h e p e n d in g a m e n d m e n t.
M r. H IT C H C O C K . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V IC E P R E S ID E N T .
I t is in a c c o r d a n c e w it h R u le X V I I I ,
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s
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o u t s h a ll h a v e p r e c e d e n c e .
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M r. B R A N D E G E E .
t- M o tio n s to a m e n d t h e p a r t to b e
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str ic k e n o u t ? ”
a m e n d m e n t, i f t h e r e i s to b e n o f u r th e r d is c u s s io n . I o f c o u r s e
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . P r o p o s e d to b e str ic k e n o u t.
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m K a n s a s , i f h e d e s ir e s .
M r. B R A N D E G E E . I n a s m u c h a s t h e p r o p o se d a m e n d m e n t o f
M r. B R I S T O W . I a m f r e e to s a y t h a t I w a n t e d t h e S e n a to r
th e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a is to s t r ik e o u t t h e e n t ir e b ill a f t e r
th e e n a c t in g c la u s e , a m e n d m e n ts p r o p o s in g to p e r f e c t t h e o r ig i- fr o m I o w a [M r. C u m m in s ], w h o is a b s e n t a t w o r k on c e r t a in
f e a t u r e s o f th e b ill, to h a v e a n o p p o r tu n ity to p r e s e n t h is v ie w s
h a l H o u s e b ill w o u ld b e fir s t in o rd er.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e y h a v e p r e c e d e n c e , in a c c o r d ­ in r e g a r d to t h e p a r lia m e n t a r y s it u a tio n , i f h e d e s ir e d to do so .
I s e n t f o r h im a s so o n a s t h e q u e s tio n c a m e up.
a n c e w it h t h i s r u le .
M r. H IT C H C O C K . I t h in k t h a t s it u a t io n c a n e a s ily b e m e t,
M r. B R A N D E G E E , I f t h a t b e so a n d t h e S e n a to r fr o m Io w a b e c a u s e t h e S e n a to r fr o m O k la h o m a a n d I h a v e j u s t a g r e e d t h a t
sh o u ld o ffe r a n a m e n d m e n t to th e p r o p o se d O w e n a m e n d m e n t, a q u o r u m o u g h t a t t h is s t a g e to b e p r e s e n t. I th e r e fo r e , b e f o r e
b e c o u ld n o t h a v e a c t io n u p o n it u n til a f t e r t h e b ill h a d b een a s k in g t h a t m y a m e n d m e n t h e r e a d , s u g g e s t t h e a b s e n c e o f a
P e r fe c te d a n d t h e O w e n a m e n d m e n t w o u ld c o m e b e fo r e t h e q u o ru m .
S e n a te to b e v o te d u p o n a s a s u b s tit u te ?
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e S e c r e ta r y w ill c a ll t h e r o ll.
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir h a s r u le d t h a t t h e r ig h t
T h e S e c r e t a r y c a lle d t h e r o ll, a iid t h e f o llo w in g S e n a to r s a n ° f w a y a t t h e p r e s e n t t im e .is f o r a m e n d m e n ts p r o p o se d to t h e s w e r e d to th e ir n a m e s :
01’ig in a l b ill. A f t e r t h e y a r e d is p o s e d o f a m e n d m e n ts m a y be A shurst
H ollis
Overman
Smith, Mich.
Hughes
Owen
P r o p o sed to t h e s o -c a lle d O w e n a m e n d m e n t, a n d w h e n t h e y h a v e Bacon
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b e en d is p o s e d o f t h e v o t e is to b e f in a lly ta k e n u p o n t h e O w en Brady
Johnson
Brandegee
Perkins
Thompson
a m e n d m e n t, w h ic h i s n o t a d iv is ib le q u e s tio n .
Jones
Bristow
P ittm an
Thornton
Kenyon
M r. B R I S T O W . M r. P r e s id e n t , I d e s ir e to s a y in t h is c o n ­ Bryan
Ransdell
T illm an
Kern
Robinson
Vardanian
n e c tio n t h a t w h a t I w a n t i s to h a v e a n u m b e r o f s e c tio n s o f t h e Burton
Lane
Chilton
Saulsbury
W alsh
H itc h c o c k b ill a d o p te d b y t h e S e n a te in lie u o f t h e a m e n d m e n ts Clark, Wyo.
L ippitt
Shafrctli
Warren
McLean
Crawford
Sheppard
P r o p o se d b y t h e O w e n b ill.
Weeks
Martin, Va.
Fletcher
Sherman
W illiam s
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e r e w i l l b e a m p le o p p o r tu n ity Gallinger
Martine, N. J.
Shively
?or t h a t. T h e C h a ir d e s ir e s to s a y t h a t t h e d iffic u lty w ill n o t b e Gore
Myers
Simmons
Newlands
Hitchcock
Sm ith, Md.
^ p r o p o s in g a m e n d m e n ts , b u t In g e t t in g th e m a d o p te d .
M r. B R I S T O W . T h e C h a ir p r o b a b ly is r ig h t in th a t.
M r. M A R T IN E o f N e w J e r s e y . I w a g r e q u e s te d t o s t a t e t h a t
T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . T h e C h a ir so s u p p o s e s fr o m w h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m T e n n e s s e e [M r. L e a ] i s a b s e n t fr o m t h e C h a m ­
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11 ‘ vir11GR O N N A On page 0, line 7. I suggest that after the h o i s t h e le a d e r o f h i s p a r ty . H e h a s p r o c la im e d t im e an d tim e
word “ im ld ’’ we add “ or owned for the purpose of receiving •m a in t h a t d is c u s s io n in p u b lic w a s a b o v e a ll t h i n g s t h e m o s t im ­
p o r t a n t in le g is la t io n . L e t m e r e n d f r o m h i s v e r y p o p u la r book
V irllH T C H C O C K . Mr. President, I should lio giad to a ^ e p t c a lle d T h e N e w F r e e d o m a f e w e x t r a c t s w h ic h a p p ly to t h e p res­
e n t s it u a t io n w it h p e c u lia r f o r c e , Air. I r e s id e n t. I u a u e x c e l­
any carefully prepared amendment that the Senhtoi fiom .voitl
Dakota [M r. G r on n a ] might present on the subject. I sug^es , le n t c h a p te r e n t it le d “ L e t t h e r e b e lig h t , h e s a y s :
T h e c o n c e r n o f p a t r i o t i c m e n Is t o p u t o u r ■ G o v e r n m e n t a g a i n o n its
however, that ho present his proposed amendment ^ writing
b y s u b s t i t u t i n g t h e p o p u l a r w i l l f o r t h e r u l e o t g u a r d ia n *
and prepare it carefully.
The purpose o l the provision, of tr hi eel i tn rbo ac es is
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people and to prevent any considerable part of it from bein« Sn all the a f f a i r s w h i c h t h e p e o p l e h a v e a r i g h t t o k n o w a b o u t ,
acquired by any person or corporation. Thero is no danger of
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the acquisition' of this stock in the bands of a few people foi v o t e in a c a u c u s o r w h a t argum ent** a r e u s e d i n a c a u c u s or the
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timi because of its excellent character as a safe and prope
b ill b e h in d c lo s e d d o o r s , in t h e s e c i e c y o f a p a i t j c a u c u s , and
investment for people of small means. I should be very glad to p o s s ib ly b y o n e v o t e t o - b in d t h e D e m o c r a t ic S e n a t o r s a g a in st
accept before a final vote is taken upon this paragraph a y t h e ir c o n v ic t io n s , is in v io la t io n o f t lie t e a c h i n g s o f t h is great
proper amendment that would strengthen that purpose.
m a n n o w P r e s id e n t o f t h e U n it e d S t a t e s - l i e s a y s fu r th e r , on
1 Air President, in offering this amendment and in offering the
otheV amendments which I shall propose to the House bill and
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biter to tlie amended bill as presented by the Senator from Okla- a r e t h o s e o f p u b l i c d i s c u s s i o n .
imnia rMr O w e n ], I have chiefly these objects in view :
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First To provide for the public ownership of the stock as w o s u b m it to t b e s n e e r s o f t h o s e o n t h e R e p u b lic a n s id e w ho
distinguished from having the stock monopolized by the banking s a y w e a r e b o u n d b a n d a n d f o o t a n d g a g g ed , a l s o : I th iu lc i t is
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w h a t w a s s a id to b e a r e c o r d c r o w d in t h e C o m m e r c ia l C lu b .
O r d in a r ily t h e clu b s e a t s a t i t s n o o n -d a y lu n c h e o n so m e 3 0 0
o f th e le a d in g b u s in e s s m e n o f O m a h a , in c lu d in g b a n k e r s. U n ­
e x p e c t e d ly I w a s a s k e d to sp e a k a t t h e n o o n -d a y lu n c h e o n , I
t h in k a w e e k a g o , M o n d a y . T h e ro o m w a s p a c k e d ; th e r e w e r e
v e r y m a n y m o r e p r e s e n t t h a n c o u ld p a r t ic ip a t e in t h e lu n c h e o n .
A f te r t h e lu n c h e o n I s p o k e fo r o v e r a n h o u r , a n d I a m f r e e to
s a y I n e v e r h a d a n a u d ie n c e so e n t h u s i a s t i c ; I n e v e r h a d a n
a u d ie n c e s o a t t e n t iv e o n t h e s u b j e c t s w h ic h I d r o v e h o m e ,
w h ic h w e r e t h e p u b lic o w n e r s h ip o f s to c k , t h e g o v e r n m e n ta l
c o n tr o l o f e a c h b a n k , t h e e s ta b lis h m e n t o f a n in s u r a n c e f u n d
f o r d e p o s ito r y ; t h e g u a r a n ty t h a t e a c h b a n k s h o u ld h a v e a n
e q u a l p r iv ile g e a n d a n e q u a l r ig h t to d is c o u n t ; t h e p r o v is io n
t h a t s ix m o n th s ’ . p a p e r , w h ic h i s e s s e n t ia lly W e s te r n a n d S o u th ­
e r n p a p e r , sh o u ld b e a c c e p te d b y t h e r e g io n a l b a n k s in a lim it e d
a m o u n t. T h e r e w o r e so m e o th e r f e a t u r e s w h ic h I c o v e r e d , b u t
t h o s e a r e t h e f e a t u r e s w h ic h h a v e ta k e n h o ld o n t h e p u b lic
o p in io n o f t h is c o u n tr y , a n d , i f S e n a to r s d o n o t k n o w t h a t n o w ,
th e y w ill k n o w i t la t e r in o n e fo r m o r a n o th e r .
M r. B R A D Y . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V I C E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a
y ie ld f u r th e r to th e S e n a to r fr o m I d a h o ?
M r. H IT C H C O C K . I do.
M r. B R A D Y . I h a v e so m e f r ie n d s a n d s o m e b u s in e s s a s s o ­
c ia t e s w h o l i v e in O m a h a .
I h a v e r e c e iv e d c o m m u n ic a tio n s
fr o m th e m s in c e t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a r e t u r n e d h o m e , a n d
t h e y u n a n im o u s ly s a y t h a t t h e r e c e p tio n t e n d e r e d to t h e S e n ­
a to r o n h is r e tu r n w a s o n e o f t h e m o s t c o r d ia l a n d m o s t e n ­
t h u s ia s t ic t h a t h a d e v e r b e e n h e ld in t h e c it y o f O m a h a . I
b e lie v e th e w o r d s t h e S e n a to r h a s j u s t sp o k e n sim p ly c o n v e y
t h e f a c t s a s t h e y e x i s t r e la t iv e to h is r e c e p tio n .
I a ls o r e t u r n e d to m y h o m e in I d a h o a n d d is c u s s e d t h is
m e a s u r e w it h m y fr ie n d s , a n d I fo u n d t h e m a lm o s t U n a n i­
m o u s ly in f a v o r o f t h e p u b lic s u b s c r ip tio n o f t h e sto c k , a s s u g ­
g e s te d b y t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a . I f o u n d m a n y b a n k e r s
in f a v o r o f f o u r o r s i x r e g io n a l r e s e r v e b a n k s , b u t t h e b u s in e s s
m en a n d f a r m e r s w it h w h o m I t a lk e d s e e m e d t o fe e l t h a t
e ig h t r e g io n a l r e s e r v e b a n k s ■would b e b e t te r f o r t h e p u b lic
th a n fo u r r e g io n a l r e s e r v e b a n k s.
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a n x io u s to h e a r fr o m t h e S e n a to r w h a t t h e b u s in e s s m e n , o u t­
s id e o f t h e b a n k e r s , in h is S t a t e t h o u g h t r e la t iv e to t h e n u m b e r
o f r e g io n a l r e s e r v e b a n k s.
I fo u n d a n o th e r v e r y in t e r e s t in g c o n d itio n in Id a h o , T h e y
b e lie v e t h a t i f t h e O w e n a m e n d m e n t i s a d o p te d a n d t h e b a n k s
a r e c o m p e lle d to p a y fo r s to c k , t h e b a n k s u n d o u b te d ly sh o u ld
h a v e c o n tr o l o f t h e r e g io n a l r e s e r v e b a n k s b y b e in g a llo w e d
to e le c t a m a jo r it y o f t h e d ir e c t o r s ; b u t, o n t h e o th e r h a n d , i f
t h e H itc h c o c k a m e n d m e n t sh o u ld b e a d o p te d a n d th e r e sh o u ld
b e a p u b lic s u b s c r ip tio n fo r t h e sto c k , t h e y s e e m e d u n a n im o u s
in t h a t c a s e t h a t t h e G o v e r n m e n t s h o u ld h a v e t h e c o n tr o l o f
t h e m a jo r it y o f t h e b o a r d o f d ir e c t o r s o f t h e r e s e r v e b a n k s a n d
n o t th e b a n k ers.
I a m j u s t s im p ly e x p r e s s in g t h e f e e lin g a s I fo u n d i t in Id a h o ,
I a m g la d to h a v e t h is in fo r m a t io n fr o m t h e S e n a to r r e la t iv e
to t h e s e n tim e n t in h is S ta te .
M r. IIIT C IIC O O K . M r. P r e s id e n t , I th a n k t h e S e n a to r f o r
h is s t a t e m e n t , a n d I a m f r e e to s a y t h a t I w a s a lm o s t e m b a r ­
r a s s e d b y t h e w e a lt h o f m y w e lc o m e . I t h in k t h e b u s in e s s in t e r ­
e s t s o f t h i s c o u n tr y h a v e b e e n a g o o d d e a l w r o u g h t u p b y t h e
t h r e a t o f e v il c o n ta in e d in t h is b ill a s i t c a m e fr o m t h e o th e r
H o u s e . I k n o w t h a t in p r a c t ic a lly e v e r y c o m m u n ity in t h i s c o u n ­
tr y th e r e h a s b e e n a g r e a t c o n tr a c tio n o f c r e d its . T h e b a n k s
h a v e b e e n a la r m e d o v e r t h e p r o sp e c t, a n d t h e feelin g^ h a s b e e n
g r o w in g t h a t t h is le g is la t io n c o n ta in e d a p o s s ib le d is a s t e r to
th e b u s in e s s w o r ld .o f t h e U n ite d S ta t e s .
T h e r e is s o m e th in g in w h a t t h e S e n a to r fr o m I d a h o [M r.
B kady ] sa y s, t h a t a t fir s t t h e d is p o s it io n i s to f a v o r t h e la r g e r
n u m b e r o f r e g io n a l b a n k s, o n t h e th e o r y t h a t t h a t p la n p r o d u c e s
g r e a te r d is s ip a t io n o f m o n e y a n d a v o id s t h e d a n g e r s o f a c o n ­
c e n tr a tio n , b u t I h a v e n e v e r f a ile d , w h e n I e x p la in e d to a l a y ­
m a n u n fa m ilia r w it h t h e s tu d y o f t h is su b je c t, to w in h is s u p ­
p o rt to t h e id e a o f t h e f o u r r e g io n a l b a n k s.
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b a n k s y o u e q u a liz e t h e r a t e o f in te r e s t , w h ile w it h S o r 10
r e g io n a l b a n k s y o u w i l l h a v e lo w in te r e s t r a t e s in N e w Y o rk ,
B o s to n , a n d C h ic a g o — th e y b e in g t h e g r e a t c e n t e r s a n d y o u w i l l
in e v ita b ly h a v e h ig h in te r e s t r a t e s in a ll t h e s m a lle r r e g io n a l
b a n k s.
Y o u lo c a liz e th e m . E x p la in t h a t to a b u s in e s s m a n
a n d h e so b s t h e im p o r ta n c e o f e q u a liz in g th o s e r a t e s o f in t e r e s t
by r e d u c in g t h e n u m b e r o f r e g io n a l b a n k s.
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a n in s u r a n c e o f b a n k d e p o s ito r s i s g r e a t. E x p la in t o a m a n
w h o b e lie v e s in t h e e s ta b lis h m e n t o f a n in s u r a n c e f u n d f o r t h e
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th e n e x p la in to h im t h a t i f y o u h a v e 8 or 1 0 or 1 2 r e g io n a l
b a n k s y o u w ill h a v e 5 o r 6 o f th e m t h a t m a y n o t e v e n p a y d iv i­
d e n d s— y e s ; y o u w i l l h a v e so m e t h a t w i l l n o t e v e n p a y e x ­
p en ses—
M r. P O M E R E N E . M r. P r e s id e n t ------T h e V IC E P R E S I D E N T . D o e s t h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a
y ie ld to t h e S e n a to r fr o m O h io ?
M r. H IT C H C O C K . I do.
M r. P O M E R E N E . T h e S e n a to r fr o m N e b r a s k a h a s j u s t s t a t e d
t h a t h e to ld t h e s e p e o p le t h a t t h e y w o u ld h a v e a r e a l in s u r a n c e
f u n d i f th e r e w e r e f o u r b a n k s , a n d t h a t i f t h e r e w e r e e ig h t or
m o r e b a n k s th e r e m ig h t b e s e v e r a l o f t h o s e b a n k s w h ic h w o u ld
n o t p a y e x p e n s e s . ' W a s t h e S e n a to r a b le t o e x p la in to th e s e
p e o p le t h e g r o u n d s f o r h is a s s u r a n c e t h a t in t h e o n e s y s t e m
th e r e w o u ld b e a su ffic ie n t in s u r a n c e fu n d , w h ile in t h e o th e r
th e r e w o u ld n o t b e?
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u n d e r b o th o f t h e s e b ills th e a m o u n t o f t h is in s u r a n c e f u n d is
g o in g to b e p u r e ly p r o b le m a tic a l. I f a v o r i t b e c a u s e i t i s a
b e g in n in g o f w h a t I b e lie v e w ill b e a c o m p le te d s y s t e m , w h ic h
w ill g iv e g e n u in e p r o te c tio n to t h e d e p o s it o r s ; b u t w it h t h e
in fo r m a tio n I h a v e h a d — a n d I h a v e b e e n g iv in g p r e t t y c a r e f u l
a t te n t io n to t h is s u b je c t f o r a n u m b e r o f w e e k s — I w o u ld n o t b e
a b le to g u a r a n te e to a n y m a n t h a t, u n d e r e it h e r s y s te m , th e r e
w o u ld b e a s u b s ta n t ia l in s u r a n c e fu n d , a n d I h a v e n e v e r h e a r d
a n y o n e e x p r e s s h im s e lf u p o n t h i s s u b j e c t w h o t h u s f a r h a s b e e n
a b le to g iv e m e t h a t s a t is f a c t o r y in fo r m a tio n . I f t h e S e n a to r
fr o m N e b r a s k a i s a b le to g iv e it, I t h in k i t w o u ld b e a v e r y
g r e a t b e n e fit to t h e S e n a te .
Mr. H IT C H C O C K .
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p r e c e d e n t, n o e x p e r ie n c e .
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10 p e r c e n t d iv id e n d s , a lt h o u g h i t c h a r g e s a v e r y lo w r a t e o f
d is c o u n t ; t h e B a n k o f F r a n c e p a y s s o m e w h e r e a b o u t t h e sa m e ,
a s I r e c a ll it , o n a la r g e r a m o u n t o f c a p it a l s t o c k ; t h e R e ic lis b a n k , o f G e r m a n y , a ls o p a y s a h a n d s o m e d iv id e n d a n d a c c u ­
m u la t e s a h a n d s o m e s u r p lu s ; b u t n o o n e s u p p o s e s t h a t i f t h o s e
c o u n tr ie s w e r e c u t u p in to a n u m b e r o f r e g io n a l b a n k s in s t e a d
o f h a v in g o n e b a n k th e r e w o u ld b e a n y d iv id e n d s or a n y p r o fits.
I f a n in s u r a n c e f u n d i s p o s s ib le a t a ll f o r t h e d e p o s it o r s in
f a ile d b a n k s, i t i s o n ly p o s s ib le b y k e e p in g th e n u m b e r o f r e ­
s e r v e b a n k s so lo w a s to m a k e th e m p r o fita b le . A s m a ll b u s i­
n e s s m a n a s k e d m e t h a t v e r y q u e s tio n , a n d I s a id to h i m :
“ W e ll, w e h a v e th r e e d e p a r tm e n t s to r e s h e r e in O m a h a , a ll
m a k in g m o n e y . Y o u c o u ld e a s ily fin d t h a t t h e s u r p lu s p r o fits
o f t h o s e d e p a r tm e n t s t o r e s c o u ld b e d e p e n d e d o n f o r a n y p u r p o se
y o u w a n t e d ; b u t w h a t w o u ld b e t h e c a s e i f y o u c u t th e m up in to
.1 2 ? T h e y m ig h t a ll lo s e m o n e y , a n d c e r t a in ly th e r e w o u ld b e
v e r y l i t t l e f u n d t h a t m ig h t b e d e p e n d e d o n in t h a t c a s e .”
T h e w h o le h o p e o f b a n k in s u r a n c e r e s t s u p o n h a v in g t h e n u m ­
b er o f r e g io n a l b a n k s so s m a ll t h a t t h e o v e r h e a d c h a r g e s w ill
n o t e a t up a ll t h e p r o fits. S o o th e r a r g u m e n ts m ig h t b e u se d ,
a n d I h a v e u s e d o th e r a r g u m e n ts w it h b u s in e s s m e n , a n d , w it h ­
o u t e x c e p tio n , t h e y h a v e r e a liz e d t h a t t h e s m a ll n u m b e r o f
r e g io n a l b a n k s w a s n e c e s s a r y to t h e s t a b ilit y a n d s t r e n g t h o f
t h e s y s te m . I t i s n e c e s s a r y , i f w e j u d g e b y t h e e x p e r ie n c e o f
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t in g th e m u p in to a n u m b e r o f w e a k b a n k s.
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t h is s u b je c t o f t h e n u m b e r o f r e g io n a l b a n k s ; b u t I h a v e a f e w
fig u r e s to w h ic h I s h o u ld lik e to r e f e r in o r d e r to s h o w S e n a to r s
h o w w e a k a n d s ic k ly m a n y o f t h e r e s e r v e b a n k s w ill b e i f y o u
go p a s t f o u r o r p o s s ib ly fiv e . W e c o n fr o n t a g r e a t p r o b le m a s
so o n a s w e p a s s fo u r . W e w i l l a ll c o n c u r t h a t, i f w e h a v e o n ly
th r e e or f o u r r e g io n a l b a n k s, th e y m u s t b e lo c a t e d in N e w
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O r le a n s in s t e a d o f S t. L o u is .
W e w i l l a l l c o n c u r in t h a t .
T h o s e a r e t h e n a tu r a l lo c a t io n s ; b u t o n c e y o u p a s s t h a t lin e ,
W hat a r e y o u g o in g to d o ? A r e y o u g o in g to in c lu d e B o s to n
a n d t h e B o s to n t e r r ito r y , w h ic h h a s n a t io n a l b a n k s w it h a
c a p it a l a n d s u r p lu s o f $ 1 6 0 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 ? I f so, y o u g iv e B o s to n a
l i t t l e r e s e r v e b a n k , a c c o r d in g to t h e p la n o f t h e S e n a to r fr o m
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c a p it a l.
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b a n k w it h fiv e a n d a h a l f m illio n d o lla r s p a id in c a p it a l. A r e
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