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PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES




OF

THE

FIRST SESSION OF THE
SEVENTY-FIFTH CONGRESS
OF

THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA

VOLUME 81-PART 3
MARCH 18, 1937, TO APRIL 15, 1937
(Pages 2377 to 3568)

UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1937

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Mr. ROBINSON. I agree with the Senator that no effort
should be made to dispose of the bill until next week, for
many reasons. When the bill is made the unfinished business, however, I wonder if the Senator from Oregon would
have any objection to an explanation by the Senator from
Idaho [Mr. POPE] of the provisions of the bill, with the understanding that no further proceedings shall be had on the
bill until Monday.
Mr. McNARY. That would entirely conform to my wishes
and views.
The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The question is on agreeing to the motion of the Senator from Idaho.
The motion was agreed to; and the Senate proceeded to
consider the bill (S. 1397) to create a Federal Crop Insurance Corporation, and for other purposes, which had been
reported from the Committee on Agriculture and Forestry,
with amendments.
Mr. POPE obtained the floor.
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. President——
The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Does the Senator from
Idaho yield to the Senator from Oklahoma?
Mr. POPE. I yield to the Senator. I realize that he
gave notice a few days ago that he would speak today. I
desire to proceed with my explanation of the bill at some
time today.
Mr. ROBINSON. In view of the notice which was given
by the Senator from Oklahoma, I suggest to the Senator
from Idaho that he withhold his discussion in order that
the Senator from Oklahoma may now have an opportunity
to present his views.
Mr. POPE. That is entirely agreeable to me.
NATIONAL RULE FOR NATIONAL COMMERCE

Mr. O'MAHONEY. Mr. President, there has just come
from the Government Printing Office the first part of the
hearings on Senate bill 10, which was introduced on January
6 last and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. It
is a bill to establish a national rule for the government of
corporations engaged in national commerce. I am asking
that a copy of these hearings be placed upon the desk of
every Senator, because the subject matter of the measure is
of such paramount importance that I venture to express the
hope that all Members of the Senate may find the opportunity of at least glancing through the hearings.
Subsequent volumes will be ready for attention in the
very near future. The bill deals with the most important
economic subject now before the people of the United States.
As the Senator from Idaho [Mr. BORAH] said a few days ago,
there is not a monopoly in the United States that is not
operating by virtue either of a grant by some State government or by virtue of the failure of the National Government
to assert its power.
The strikes which threaten to paralyze the commerce of
the Nation and to destroy the economic recovery we have
been enjoying have been declared chiefly in the plants of
huge interstate corporations which derive their existence
from State charters.
A sit-down strike here or a sit-down strike there may be
terminated by conference and agreement, but there can be
no assurance of permanent economic peace unless we adopt
a sound national policy.
Our trouble arises from the fact that, although it has full
power, the Congress of the United States has not seen fit
to exercise it to protect the public interest. State authority
is inadequate to the task, because the business with which
we are concerned overflows State lines.
We shall not even begin to solve this question until we
recognize the very simple fact that a corporation is a creature of law. If the people, acting through Congress, will
only write the charters of these great corporations which
carry on the business of the country, thereby limiting and
defining the powers which the corporations may exercise, we
shall lay the foundation for permanent settlement. Until
the Congress does enact such a law we shall not escape the
evils of the present situation.
The measure which I have introduced to provide a Federal
system of charters and licenses for corporations engaged
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which has been introduced by the Senator from Idaho, furnish, I believe, the formula upon which public authority
may be satisfactorily asserted in the present economic crisis.
The volume to which I am now calling attention contains
information which I am confident is of importance to the
Members of this body.
REGULATION AND STABILIZATION OF DOLLAR VALUE

Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. President, yesterday I
announced that immediately upon the conclusion of the
morning hour today I would ask permission to introduce
a bill and then to make some explanation of the reasons
for introducing the bill. At this time I ask permission to
introduce a bill having for its title "A bill for the regulation and stabilization of agricultural and commodity prices
through the regulation and stabilization of the value of the
dollar, pursuant to the power conferred on the Congress
by paragraph 5 of section 8 of article I of the Constitution,
and for other purposes."
The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, the
bill will be received.
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I ask permission that a
copy of the bill just introduced be referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Forestry and be printed in the
RECORD as a part of my remarks.
The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Is there objection?
There being no objection, the bill (S. 1990) for the regulation and stabilization of agricultural and commodity
prices through the regulation and stabilization of the value
of the dollar, pursuant to the power conferred on the Congress by paragraph 5 of section 8 of article I of the Constitution, and for other purposes, was read twice by its title,
referred to the Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, and
ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows:
Be it enacted, etc.—
SECTION 1. Monetary policy: Pursuant to the authority conferred
in paragraph 5 of section 8 of article I of the Constitution, wherein
the Congress is authorized to coin money and to regulate the value
thereof, the Congress does hereby declare that the monetary policy
of the United States shall embrace, among others, the following
principles:
(a) To coin and keep constantly available an adequate supply of
sound money;
(b) To regulate the value of the dollar so as to best serve the
domestic economy of the people; and
(c) To place and keep in circulation a sufficient amount of properly valued currency to adequately supply the demands and needs
of the people of the United States: Provided, That the regulation
and stabilization of the value of the dollar shall be a fixed policy
of the Government of the United States, and, in order to promote and give stability to agriculture, industry, commerce, manufacturing, mining, forestry, fisheries, employment, and other human
activities, the regional Federal Reserve banks and the member
banks of the Federal Reserve System, under the supervision and
direction of the Monetary Authority, shall cooperate in carrying
out the policy and principles herein set forth and as provided in
this act.
SEC. 2. Creation of monetary authority: The Congress, in order
to vitalize the provisions of the Constitution and to carry into
effect the monetary principles and financial policy set forth in section 1 hereof deems it necessary to, and does hereby, create the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System into a governmental agency to be designated as a Monetary Authority (herein
referred to as the Monetary Authority) for the express purpose of
regulating the value of money: Provided, That the constitutional
clause—regulating the value of money—shall be construed to mean
adjusting the value of the dollar to that point which will serve
the best interests and best promote the domestic economy of the
people of the United States: And provided further, That said
clause—regulating the value of money—shall be construed to mean
not only the adjustment of the value of money but also the
stabilization of such regulated and adjusted value as hereinafter
provided.
SEC. 3. Dollar-value control items: The Monetary Authority, in
regulating, adjusting, and stabilizing the value of the dollar as
herein provided, shall take into account and give consideration to,
among other things, the following:
(a) The amount of the annual total tax bills necessary to support the several units of Government;
(b) The amount of the annual total public and private interest
items;
(c) The amount of consolidated or massed debts, public and private, owned by the several units of Government, corporations, and
the people jointly and severally;
(d) The general price level and the relation of such price level to
the tax, interest, and debt burdens resting upon the people.
(e) The interests of taxpayers, mortgagors, debtors, producers,
consumers, wage earners, holders of fixed investments, and those
who live on fixed incomes;

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(f) The relation of the general domestic price level to the general world price level; and
(g) The relation of the value of the dollar to the values of the
monetary units of the other governments of the world.
SEC. 4. Standards and limitations: Immediately upon the passage
and approval of this act, the said monetary authority shall assume and exercise the powers herein delegated and conferred
according to the standards and within the limitations herein set
forth: Provided, That the said monetary authority is hereby authorized and directed to proceed without delay and as provided
herein to so regulate the value of the dollar as to raise the
general price level to a point equal to the average of the general
price level for the year 1926, as shown by the Bureau of Labor
Statistics: And provided further, That, pending the regulation and
adjustment of the value of the dollar to the 1926 level as provided herein, the said monetary authority shall proceed to investigate, consider, and determine the proper value of the dollar as
provided in section 3 of this act: And provided further, That
the adjusted, regulated, and stabilized value of the dollar, as may
be determined by the said monetary authority, as provided herein,
shall not be at a point of value in excess of the average value
of the dollar during the year of 1926, as shown by the said Bureau
of Labor Statistics.
SEC. 5. Equilibrium price level: The monetary authority, in carrying into effect the principle of monetary policy stated in (b) of
section 1 hereof, and after full consideration of said items (a),
(b), (c), (d), (e), (f), and (g) in section 3 hereof, shall regulate
and adjust the value of the dollar, as provided herein, so as to
effectuate, produce, and bring about as nearly as possible, an
equilibrium price level designed to serve the best interests of the
people of the United States as mentioned in (e) of section 3
hereof.
SEC. 6. Stabilization: Immediately upon the completion of the
regulation and adjustment of the value of the dollar, as provided
herein, the monetary authority shall proceed to stabilize and
thereafter keep stable as nearly as possible, the value of said
dollar at the point of value so determined as provided in section
4 hereof: Provided, That in the regulation, adjustment, and stabilization of such value at such point, the said monetary authority shall have all the authority herein delegated and conferred and, in addition, shall have all the authority heretofore
delegated and conferred upon the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System.
SEC. 7. Specific powers: In order to carry into effect the principles of the monetary policy set forth in this act, the monetary
authority, acting under the powers conferred herein and acting
as the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, shall
have the following specific powers:
(a) Full and complete control over reserve requirements of
member banks of the Federal Reserve System;
(b) Full and complete control over the discount rate at each of
the regional Federal Reserve banks;
(c) Full and complete control over the eligibility of all kinds and
classes of collateral to be accepted by the several regional Federal
Reserve banks, their branches, and other member banks of the
Federal Reserve System; and
(d) Full and complete control over all open-market operations
in all regional Federal Reserve banks, both in the buying and
selling of securities at home and abroad.
SEC. 8. Monetary authority statistics: For the purpose of assisting in the regulation, adjustment, and stabilization of the value of
the dollar the said monetary authority is hereby authorized to
investigate, prepare and officially adopt, subject to the approval
by the Congress, a system of statistics to be known as the monetary authority statistics: Provided, That in preparing such statistics the monetary authority shall have authority to call upon
other departments of the Government for such statistics, data, and
information as may be desired and requisitioned: And provided
further, That pending the adoption of such monetary authority
statistics the said monetary authority shall make use of, and be
governed by, the Bureau of Labor Statistics as provided herein.
SEC. 9. Officers and employees: In carrying into effect the provisions of this act the monetary authority shall have power to
appoint officers and employees, to define their duties, fix their
compensation, require bonds of them, and fix the penalty thereof,
and to dismiss at pleasure such officers and employees. The said
monetary authority is hereby empowered to adopt and promulgate
such rules and regulations as it may deem necessary to carry out
the provisions of this act.
SEC. 10. Interpretation of delegated powers: The powers conferred upon and delegated to the Monetary Authority herein
created shall be construed to be a delegation of legislative powers
conferred upon the Congress by paragraph 5 of section 8 of article
I of the Constitution to regulate the value of money: Provided,
That such powers so delegated shall be further interpreted and
construed to be a delegation of such legislative powers to a governmental agency to carry out a fixed policy of the Congress according to definite and fixed standards, and within definite and
fixed limitations, as set forth herein and as provided by this act.
SEC. 11. All provisions of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, with
amendments, including title 3 of Public, No. 10, Seventy-third
Congress, and amendments thereof, and other public acts of the
Seventy-third, Seventy-fourth, and Seventy-fifth Congresses, when
not in conflict and not inconsistent with the provisions of this
act, shall be, and are hereby, continued in full force and effect.
SEC. 12. There is authorized to be appropriated, out of any
money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, annually such
sums as may be necessary for carrying into effect the purposes of
this act.




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SEC. 13. If any provision of this act, or the application thereof
to any person or circumstance, is held invalid, the remainder of
the act and the application of such provision to other persons or
circumstances shall not be affected thereby.
SEC. 14. The Monetary Authority shall report to the Congress
annually such data, report of activities, and statement of policy
as may be deemed in the public interest, and shall make recommendations to the Congress at its discretion relative to amendments of this act.
SEC. 15. The short title of this act shall be the "Monetary
Authority Act."

Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. President, I have chosen
an hour when the Senate would be least inconvenienced,
and the time I shall consume will be devoted to establishing
the background for the suggested legislation.
Conditions are somewhat unsettled in the United States
and throughout the world. With a nation of 130,000,000
people, the strongest and the richest and the most influential nation on the earth, it is presumed that conditions
from time to time might be unsettled.
It is my judgment that the unsettlement and the trouble
we are now having throughout the United States, and largely
throughout the world, are due, either directly or indirectly,
to the value of the monetary unit in this country, and likewise the value of the monetary units in the other nations of
the world. Take, for example, the sit-down strikes occurring throughout this country. What is the reason for those
strikes? A few years ago millions of the wage earners of
this country were out of employment. Now many millions
of those formerly unemployed have secured employment.
Formerly prices were very low and living was very cheap.
Because the dollar has become cheaper, prices have risen.
When prices rise the cost of living goes up, and while many
of the men who were formerly unemployed now have jobs,
they find that their living costs are going up but wages are
still "sitting down", and these "sit-down" wages refuse to
rise. To me the explanation is simple. The wage earners
are sitting down with the wages, and they are refusing to
rise until wages are willing to rise with them.
Let me call attention very briefly to a few news stories
appearing in the press of today and perhaps of yesterday.
I have before me a copy of the American Banker, the issue
of only 1 or 2 days ago. The editorial in this publication is
under the following caption:
Gold clause—no more. Responsibility now rests with Federal
authorities for price level.

The heading of this editorial merely states that the price
level of today is the result of the management of Federal
authorities. From this editorial we may deduce the conclusion that the price level of tomorrow and the price level of
next week and of next year will be that which may be dictated and brought about by the Federal authorities representing the Government of the United States.
I call attention to other news stories. For instance, I find
in the public press of a recent date an article under very
heavy headlines, which read as follows:
Rising prices new worry of administration. Advance in commodities seen as peril like that of 1929.
In the story is an attempt to broadcast a scare that prices
are about to run away with themselves, and that because
prices are about to run away with themselves conditions
in the United States are likely to get out of control.
Another news story I find under this heading:
Inflation—How near is It?

Another news story appears under the following caption:
Eccles points boldly to danger.
price and wage inflation.

Federal Reserve head warns of

I find another news story in another publication under the
following heading:
Rising price levels threat to recovery? A boom in prices. Effect
on living costs. Aims of the administration. Money controls.

Another news story appears quoting the chairman of the
Finance Committee of the United States Senate to the effect
that prices are not now too high.
I find another news story under this heading:
Rising commodity prices pinch District of Columbia wage earners' stable pay. But while his dollar has fallen in purchasing
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If this story is to be credited, and if it is based upon the
facts, while the dollar has fallen in value, causing prices to
rise, yet prices have not risen to the point where they were
in 1929, and in 1929 prices were not as high as they were in
1926. So we must first reach the 1929 level before we can
reach the 1926 level. The 1926 level has been the goal of
many persons who have been interested in the management
and control of the value of the dollar.
Another news story I find under the heading:
Lack of policy.

The article states that the Congress has no policy, that
the Federal Reserve Board has no policy, and that the
administration has no policy. In other words, no one seems
to know to what point the dollar is to be cheapened before
the cheapening process will stop.
Mr. President, I have had prepared a graph, or chart,
which is suspended on the wall of the Senate. Across the
center of the chart will be found a straight, heavy black line
designated by the figure "100."
I call attention to the second line, a very crooked black
line which is designated as "dollar value." It will be noted
that the black, crooked line is sometimes above the center or
medial line and sometimes below. That is the line which
represents the rise and fall in the value of the dollar from
1800 to the present hour. This line is about as straight as
a lightning flash. We have heard it said that we now have
a rubber dollar. During these 137 years we have had a
dollar as unstable as that line is crooked. If we have ever
had a rubber dollar, a bouncing dollar, we have had it from
1800 up to the present time, save through two short periods
of emergency, one from 1800 to 1810, when the dollar value
was rather stable, the other from 1921 to 1928, when again
the dollar value was rather stable.
We have a system for measuring values, including the
value of the dollar. This system is a set of statistics and is
compiled by what is known as the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This system embraces 784 separate items or commodities and is sometimes designated as the wholesale price list.
It is new generally admitted that the dollar value controls
prices and that prices control income and prosperity; hence,
at all times the price of any given item or commodity embraced within the 784 items making up such index is controlled by the value of the dollar. The value of the dollar,
as measured by commodities, is controlled by various elements, such elements including the size or the weight of the
gold content of the dollar, the amount of the dollars or units
in circulation, the amount of credit or deposit money in
circulation, and the velocity with which such dollars circulate.
Under the formula just stated, we find that during the
past 137 years the value of the dollar has bounced up and
down something like the bouncing of a rubber ball. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the dollar had the
value or purchasing power of 89 cents in the year 1800.
From 1800 to 1810 the dollar value was rather uniform, and
when the dollar value is uniform the price level is likewise
uniform.
From 1810 to 1820 we had the national disturbance known
as the War of 1812. During that period money became plentiful, and thereby cheaper; hence, commodity prices rose
accordingly.
About 1820 the dollar value started upon an upward,
irregular course, reaching 152 cents in 1830, dropping to 119
cents in 1837, going up to 160 cents in 1850, and to 164 cents
in 1860. As the value of the dollar during the years from
1820 to 1860 remained above the medial line of 100, we find
that the value of commodities remained uniformly below the
100 medial line.
In 1860, when the disturbance between the States started
to develop, the dollar value began to fall, and as the dollar
went down the purchasing power or commodity price went
up, until in 1865 the dollar had a value of 60 cents, and
commodity prices had a correspondingly high value of 132
cents. In other words, about 1865, when we had no gold or
silver in circulation, but only greenbacks, because of the
amount of greenbacks in circulation and because the greenbacks were not at that time redeemable in either gold or
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commodity index; and when the dollar value fell, commodity
prices rose accordingly.
In 1865 the dollar again started on an upward, irregular
course, until in 1878 the dollar had a buying or purchasing
power of 162 cents, and in 1896 the dollar reached its greatest value, as measured in terms of commodities, and, according to the graph and the Bureau of Labor Statistics, such
dollar had a value or buying power of 215 cents. It was at
this period that the general price level was at its lowest
period in history.
In passing I may call attention to the fact that it was
this high-valued dollar and correspondingly low price level
which brought on the campaign for cheaper money and
higher prices as led by William Jennings Bryan in the socalled "free silver" campaign of 1896.
That is in the period, as shown on the graph, from 1890
to 1900. At that time the dollar, in measure of commodities,
was worth 215 cents; and because the value of the dollar was
so high, and commodity prices were so low, Bryan led a
party in an effort to secure a cheaper dollar, and likewise
higher prices for the things people produced. That, as I
have said, is known as the Bryan campaign for free silver
in 1896.
In 1897, because of the discovery of vast deposits of gold,
money became more plentiful, and thereby the value of the
dollar again began to fall; and as the dollar fell, we find
commodity prices starting upon an upward trend.
In 1914 the World War brought about another flurry in
the value not only of the dollar but of the other currencies
of the world; and as the dollar started on its downward
trend in 1914 we find the wholesale price level starting upward again.
In 1920 the dollar had a buying or purchasing power of
64 cents; and at that time commodities, as shown by the
price level, had purchasing power to the value, on the average, of 154 cents. In the national campaign of 1920 the
question of the price level developed into a national issue.
The Democrats had been in power for 8 years, hence the
high prices of that year were blamed upon the Democratic
Party.
The Republican National Convention met in Chicago on
June 8 to 12, 1920, and in the platform declaration of such
convention we find the following planks:
Under the heading The High Cost of Living we find the
following language:
The prime cause of the high cost of living has been, first and
foremost, a 50-percent depreciation in the purchasing power of the
dollar, due to a gross expansion of our currency and credit.

Also, in the same platform declaration, the Republican
Party made the following promise to the people of the
country. I quote:
We pledge ourselves to earnest and consistent attack upon the
high cost of living by rigorous avoidance of further inflation in
our Government borrowing, by courageous and intelligent deflation
of overexpanded credit and currency.

The Republican Party was successful in the November
election of 1920, and immediately a program of deflation, as
promised in the Republican platform, was initiated.
Mr. Harding was inaugurated on March 4, 1921, and during the following 18 months the sum of $100,000,000 per
month was taken out of circulation, and the money thereby
canceled. When Mr. Harding was inaugurated President
we had $6,207,000,000 of money in circulation, and on September 1, 1922, 18 months thereafter, such circulation had
been reduced to the sum of $4,393,000,000.
During the 18 months from March 4, 1921, the policy of
deflation took out of circulation $100,000,000 per month, or
$1,800,000,000 in that brief period. That is deflation.
Mr. LEWIS. Mr. President, will the able Senator please
explain what is meant by his expression of vast millions
being canceled? I confess not to understand it, and I shall
be pleased to have enlightenment from him.
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. President, I have just
stated that when Mr. Harding became President there was
in circulation the sum of $6,207,000,000. At that time there
were that many gold dollars and silver dollars and paper
dollars actually outside the Treasury of the United States.

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Some of this money was in bank vaults; some of it was in
the tills and safety-deposit boxes of people; some of it was
in hiding; some of it was in the cash registers of the merchandising establishments of the Nation; and some of it
was in the pockets of the people. But on that date there
was in circulation, as we define the term "circulation", the
sum of $6,207,000,000.
During the next 18 months there was taken out of circulation $100,000,000 per month. That was done in this
manner: The Federal Reserve Board, in obedience to a resolution passed by the Senate, submitted a report to the Senate stating that it proposed to adopt a policy of deflation.
In that report the Federal Reserve Board stated that the
Board had advised the banks of the country not to be so
liberal in making loans in the future as they had been in
the past, and that not only should they not be so liberal
in making loans as they had been, but they should serve
notice on their borrowers that good policy dictated that the
borrowers should not borrow in the future, but should
begin to pay, should begin to reduce the amount of their
loans at the banks.
Pursuant to that policy, and under the influence of the
banks upon their customers, the customers and borrowers
began to pay. The borrowers from the banks throughout the
Nation sold what they had or what they could, raised money,
and applied the money on their loans at the several member
banks throughout the Nation. As the member banks received the money on their loans the member banks sent
this money to the Federal Reserve banks, because the facts
show that during these years of activity the member banks,
in order to finance the business of their customers, had to
borrow vast sums from the Federal Reserve System. So
the member banks had loans, or had money borrowed from
the Federal Reserve banks. As the member banks collected
money they sent it to the Federal Reserve banks and had it
applied upon their indebtedness; and that is when the
money went out of circulation.
I hope I have in a limited way or in a partial manner
answered the question of the Senator from Illinois.
Mr. LEWIS. Mr. President, I appreciate the reply of the
able Senator, but I should like to ask him a further question.
In using the term, as used a moment ago, that these vast
millions were canceled, did my able friend mean, by the
word "canceled", the definition he has now given of the
retirement of this money?
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. For the time being, the
money went into hiding. It went where it could not be had
except through another series of loans by the Federal Reserve System to member banks, so that in turn the member
banks could, if they desired, make loans to their customers.
When I used the word "canceled", I meant canceled for the
time being. The money was not destroyed. The money went
to the Federal Reserve banks, went into their vaults, and
remained there until some future years when they should
see fit to loan it again to member banks. But for the time
being, at least, the money was taken out of circulation; it
was returned to the several Reserve banks, and remained
there until called for again at some future period.
Mr. LEWIS. Then, its uses were canceled.
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Exactly so. The money was
not in a place where it could do any work; it was in prison,
so to speak.
The platform declaration of the Republican Party in 1920
contained, in condensed form, the economic principles relating to and controlling the value of the dollar. The action
of the Republican administration from March 4, 1921, demonstrates the possibility of regulating the value of the dollar
and, by such regulation, the control of the general price level
of the Nation.
At this point I might call attention to the fluctuation of
prices caused by the deliberate deflation of currency and
credit by the Republican administration under President
Harding. By referring to the graph on the wall—and in
order to make the graph understandable I have indicated
under each period the name of the President—it will be
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the scene. That was in 1920. He was elected in November
1920 and was sworn in as President on March 4, 1921.
When Mr. Harding was elected President the dollar had a
value of 64 cents and commodity prices had an average
value of 154 cents. That meant that commodity prices had
an unusually high price level. At the same time it meant
that the dollar had an unusually low price level. After Mr.
Harding became President money was taken out of circulation, and money became scarcer and thereby dearer. The
chart or graph shows the zigzag line going upward. From
March 4, 1921, to September 1, 1922, the value of the dollar
was increased from 64 cents to 100 cents, and as the dollar
went up in buying power commodity prices fell. The chart
shows that the average price of commodities fell from 154
cents on March 4, 1921, to 100 cents by September 1, 1922.
Mr. VANDENBERG. Mr. President, may I ask the Senator
a question?
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I am glad to yield.
Mr. VANDENBERG. Is it the Senator's statement that
that was entirely due to the reflex in the volume of currency?
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. As stated a moment ago,
there are different conditions that control the value of
money: One is the amount of currency in circulation; another is the amount of credit or deposit money in circulation;
and the third is the volume at which all classes of money
circulate. But when the Harding administration decided to
deflate, as they did, as announced in the Republican platform
of 1920, when the party came into power and began to do
the things they promised to do everything began to slow
down; money went out of circulation; deposit and credit
money ceased to expand and began to contract; and, as
money went out of circulation and deposit money began to
contract, the velocity began to be retarded, and within 3
years, according to my viewpoint, caused the dollar value to
go up and commodity prices to fall.
At this point I might call attention briefly to the fluctuation of prices caused by the deflation program of President
Harding. When the Republican convention met in June
1920 cotton was selling for 42 cents a pound, and after 18
months of deflation, as promised by the Republican platform,
cotton was selling for 22 cents a pound. When the convention met wheat was selling for $2.50 a bushel, and, within
18 months, the price of wheat had dropped below $1 per
bushel. The same percentage of reduction was reflected in
the several items making up the wholesale price list. In the
brief space of 2 years it was conclusively demonstrated that
the value of the buying power of the dollar could be changed
and regulated by the control of money and credit permitted
to be in circulation.
By referring to the graph, it will be noted that the heavy
black line, indicating the dollar value of 64 cents in 1920,
took an upward trend until in 1922 the dollar value, as measured by commodities, had reached the medial line designated
by 100. As the dollar-value line reached the 100 medial
line, we find the commodity price level likewise meeting the
same 100 medial line.
From 1922 to 1928 the value of the dollar was adjusted,
regulated, and stabilized at approximately 100. In 1926, at
the middle of this period—that is, the period from 1922 to
1929—we had a stabilized price level and a stabilized dollar;
and it is impossible to have a stabilized price level without
having a stabilized dollar. In that year—1926—every group
of commodities represented in the Bureau of Labor system
of statistics showed that the buying power of the dollar was
100, which means, of course, 100 cents.
It is because of the regulation and stabilization of the
value of the dollar at 100 cents in 1926 that that year has
been designated as the most satisfactory to consider as the
norm or standard. During the period from 1922 to 1928 we
had a general era of prosperity. Wage earners were generally employed at fair wages; commodity prices were adjusted to a level which enabled producers to receive the cost
of production plus a degree of profit. It was during this
period that the national income increased perceptibly; it was
during this period that the income of the Treasury derived
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of the Government but at the same time to reduce the
national debt approximately $1,000,000,000 a year.
I might also suggest that this temporary regulation and
stabilization of the value of the dollar, and consequently the
temporary regulation and stabilization of the value of commodities, was due entirely to the ability and' courage of
Benjamin Strong, the governor of the Federal Reserve bank
located in New York City.
In 1921 Governor Strong, without a mandate from the
Congress, obviously exercised the power conferred upon the
Federal Reserve Board, and thereby, through monetary and
credit control, adjusted the value of the dollar to a hundred
cents and kept such adjusted value stabilized during the
remainder of his brief lifetime. In 1928 Mr. Strong passed
on, and at the moment of his death, there being no one left
who assumed to carry out his policy, the dollar began to seek
its former haunts; it started upward; in a very few years
the dollar had advanced from 100 cents to 167 cents; and as
the value of the dollar rose the price of commodities fell.
It cannot be doubted, Mr. President, that the high-valued
dollar in 1932, as shown by this graph, it being then 167 cents,
was responsible for the defeat of President Hoover and the
election of Franklin D. Roosevelt.
This point [indicating] shown on the graph is supposed
to represent March 4, 1933, with the dollar at its highest
value in recent years, such value being 167 cents. At that
time, when the dollar was at its highest value, commodity
prices were as low as they were back in 1896. So immediately upon the election of President Roosevelt the power of
the administration was directed to the cheapening of the
dollar and the consequent raising of commodity prices. As
hereinbefore stated, the value of the dollar has fallen from
167 cents in February 1933 to a value, or purchasing power,
of 114 cents on March 13, 1937. As the value of the dollar
has fallen commodity prices have increased.
By glancing at the graph it will be noted that the value
of the dollar started to fall on March 4, 1933, and it has
been on a downward trend from that day until this. The
dollar has lost value from 167 cents in 1933 until today its
value is 114 cents. So the dollar value now, after 4 years of
effort, is still higher than it was in 1929, and much higher
than it was in 1926. The graphic trend shows that commodity prices have not reached the level of 1926,
The bill which I am proposing, and which I have introduced this afternoon, provides a plan for the still further
cheapening of the dollar until the value or buying power of
the dollar shall be reduced to the 1926 level of 100 cents.
If the dollar value is still further reduced to the level
mentioned, we will find the price level of commodities restabilized again at approximately the 1926 level.
It is my contention that the value or purchasing power
of the dollar can be absolutely and safely controlled, and
that, through regulation and control of the value of the
dollar, we can likewise absolutely and safely regulate and
stabilize the price level for commodities.
From the point where the dollar value of 114 cents is
shown on the graph it is my contention and my purpose
and my plan, so far as I can effectuate them, to see that
the dollar is still further cheapened until this black line
[indicating] shall reach the medial line of 100, which will
bring the dollar value down to 100 cents in terms of commodities. If and when this black line [indicating] is
brought down to this 100 medial line [indicating] it will
be found that the red or commodity line will be raised to
the same line, exactly as it was from the period of 1922 to
1928, and as it was away back from 1800 to 1810. The
fluctuation from 1800 to 1810 was greater than the fluctuation from 1922 to 1929.
Under Governor Strong the dollar varied only as follows: He brought the dollar to a hundred cents; it then
fluctuated down to 97 cents; then up to a hundred cents;
then to 101 cents; then up to 103 cents; then down to 96
cents; then up to 104 cents, a fluctuation above or below
the line of 3 or 4 cents a year.
I do not hope to have the medial line from this time
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be expected or too much to be hoped for. But if Governor
Strong, without a mandate from Congress and without the
powers that may be conferred by congressional enactment,
could adjust and regulate the value of the dollar from 64
cents to 100 cents and thereafter keep such value regulated
and stabilized at approximately 100 cents for a period of
almost a decade, then I contend that with a mandate from
Congress and with additional powers conferred, an agency
of the Government may again adjust and regulate the value
of such dollar to 100 cents and thereafter keep such regulated value stabilized in terms of commodities.
My bill if enacted into law would bring the black line
down to meet the medial line on the one hand. If my bill
will do what I think it will do, it will bring the red commodity line up to meet the same medial line, and then when
the dollar has been adjusted or regulated in value as the
Constitution provides, from that time henceforth the dollar
will be possible of stabilization, and with the stabilization
of the dollar it will be possible, in my opinion, at the same
time, to stabilize the value of commodities.
Mr. VANDENBERG. Mr. President, may I ask the Senator a question?
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. POPE in the chair). Does
the Senator from Oklahoma yield to the Senator from
Michigan?
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I yield.
Mr. VANDENBERG. Referring to the period which the
Senator describes as Governor Strong's era of stabilization,
does the Senator think Governor Strong would have done
what he says was done during that period if the Government
itself had been running at a constant deficit and financing
its deficits by borrowing?
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. It would have made it
harder for him, I will admit. Is the Senator from Michigan worried about increasing the amount of the national
debt and increasing prices?
Mr. VANDENBERG. What I am trying to find out is the
Senator's philosophy in respect to control, and I am wondering, and asking only for information, whether the factor
to which I now allude would not have embarrassed Governor
Strong if such had been the situation at that time.
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. No doubt it would have been
harder for Governor Strong to do all that he did, but the
fact is that he was in charge of the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York City from 1913. He served as governor of the
Federal Reserve bank in New York from 1913 until 1928,
but during the war period others had control of finances.
The bill was not passed until 1913. It took a good while to
get the law in operation. Governor Strong was a young
man. No doubt he went along carefully and cautiously.
Governor Strong took charge immediately after the war
closed. The war closed in 1918. Governor Strong was then
governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York City.
He began to exercise his power and his genius shortly after
the close of the war, but he actually took charge March 4,
1921. From then on what was done, as I believe, was done
by Governor Strong through his ability, his foresight, his
knowledge of money, and his knowledge of what the country
needed and demanded in order to get back on its feet again.
I wish to state for the public record that I approve of what
Governor Strong did. I am hoping that what he did may
be done again. I believe it can be done again.
With reference to the bill which I have introduced, I do
not expect it to pass tomorrow. It may never pass. But
the question of the regulation of the value of money is now
uppermost. I realize that few, perhaps, understand the
mechanism of money. It is difficult to get people to listen
to one talk about money. Some people seem to think that
money is an Einstein proposition. They never did understand it; they never can understand it; they will never try
to understand it. But from my viewpoint it is the most
important question that confronts the Congress.
The Constitution provides that Congress shall regulate the
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has made no effort or little effort, if any, to regulate the
value of money. There was a time when the people thought
that a little piece of gold of a fixed weight and fineness was
an unvarying measure of value just as the yardstick is an unvarying measure of length. But it has been demonstrated
now, and I think admitted by the nations of the world, that
gold is not stable in value.
For a long time we had the gold dollar as the basis of our
money. We had what is called the single gold standard.
That simply meant the currency we had, our checks or
money, upon our own motion could be taken to a bank and
redeemed in gold. The last word in money was the gold
dollar. That is the reason why we said we were on the gold
standard.
Many people seem to think that the gold dollar was an
unvarying, unchanging, and unchangeable measure of value.
Look at the graph which I have placed on the wall of the
Senate Chamber. We had the gold dollar for one-hundredand-thirty-odd years and, as shown by the graph, the value
of the gold dollar has bounced up and down, as I said a
moment ago, exactly like a rubber ball. As the dollar
bounced up and down the prices of commodities likewise
bounced up and down. The Congress in all those years has
never made a serious effort, so far as I know, to regulate
or stabilize the value of our money.
The Constitution provides that the Congress shall have
that power. No one else has the power to regulate the value
of money. Some have assumed to use some power to do the
job. Governor Strong had the power of the Federal Reserve
System at his command. He was the head of the largest
bank in the Federal Reserve System. That bank had charge
of the open-market operations. No doubt he was the best
qualified man to advise the Federal Reserve officials as to
what they should and should not do.
I have read the book prepared by Dr. Burgess on the Strong
plan, and it is my viewpoint that the officials of the Federal
Reserve System deferred to Governor Strong and let him
outline what should be done. Then the whole Federal Reserve System fell in behind Governor Strong and did what
he recommended.
At the present time this power is not centralized. Some
power is vested in the Federal Reserve Board, called now the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; some
power is vested in the President; and some power is vested
in the Secretary of the Treasury. Today there are three
boards or three agencies which might assume to control and
regulate the value of the dollar, but the Congress has never
tried to do this directly. It is obvious, as I shall explain in a
few moments, that Congress cannot do this, and I shall give
the reasons why.
Mr. President, 4 years ago, when the dollar value was high
and prices were low, I introduced in the Senate a bill providing a plan for the cheapening of the dollar and thereby
raising prices. The bill was passed by the Congress. The
law was held to be constitutional by a 5-to-4 decision of the
Supreme Court.
During these 4 years the dollar has been cheapened and
prices have been raised. Today the value of the dollar is still
falling and, consequently, prices are still rising.
Because of this 4-year trend, the following questions have
arisen: How cheap shall the dollar be made, and how high
shall prices be raised? Who is able, competent, and qualified
to answer such questions?
In all the land there is but one tribunal legally qualified to
make reply, and that tribunal is the Congress of the United
States. Section 8 of article I of the Constitution confers
upon Congress the exclusive power to regulate the value of
money. Save the power delegated and conferred upon the
President by the act of 4 years ago, no person, board, or department has any mandate to presume to say how cheap the
dollar shall be made, or how high prices shall be raised.
The Federal Reserve System, a private banking organization, has power to alter, change, and, to a degree, regulate
the value of the dollar, but has no legal mandate from the
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The President and the Department of the Treasury have
power to alter, change, and, likewise, to a degree, regulate the
value of our money.
While full and complete power rests in the Congress to
adjust and regulate the value of the dollar, no mandate
other than the one mentioned has ever been given any person, board, commission, or department of the Government.
Our Government is now almost 150 years of age. The
Congress has had full constitutional power to adjust and
regulate the value of the dollar during all this time, but has
failed to act.
During all these years just what has the Congress done
to vitalize this constitutional provision?
When the Constitution was adopted we had practically
no monetary system. Alexander Hamilton, the first Secretary of the Treasury, in 1791 recommended that a mint
should be established and that both silver and gold should
be used as money.
The Congress in 1792 enacted a law making silver and gold
dollars the basic units of currency for the States.
The silver dollar was to contain 3711/4grains of pure
silver, and the gold dollar was to contain 243/4grains of
pure gold, and each such weighted dollar was to answer
to a dollar in the money of account. From the first the
content of pure silver in the dollar has never been changed.
During the administration of Andrew Jackson the weight
of the gold dollar was twice reduced.
In 1873 the Congress demonetized silver. In 1900 the Congress, for the first time, made the gold dollar the single
standard and basis of our monetary system.
Then, in 1933, the Congress conferred upon the President
power still further to reduce the weight of the gold dollar.
The power delegated was exercised, and the weight of the
gold dollar was reduced from 25.8 grains of gold 0.9 fine to
a weight of 155/21grains of gold 0.9 fine.
Until recently all our money, consisting of currency and
subidiary[subsidary]coins, was based upon and redeemable in gold.
Today all dollars outside of the boundaries of the United
States are, in effect, based upon gold, and each such dollar
is worth exactly what 155/21grains of gold 0.9 fine are worth
in the markets of the world.
Our domestic dollars are neither based upon nor redeemable in gold; hence the value of such dollars has little, if
any, relation to the value of the foreign dollar.
Under present law, rules, and regulations, the United
States is on a pseudo-gold standard abroad and on a managed currency at home.
Formerly the public was led to believe that fixing the
weight or size of the silver and gold dollar regulated and
stabilized the value of such dollar. This was on the principle
that a large nugget of silver or gold would be worth more
than a smaller nugget of either of such metals.
Both gold and silver, while held to be monetary metals,
are now and have always been commodities with values
subject to the law of supply and demand.
When the dollar is given a fixed weight in gold, such
action stabilizes the value of but the one commodity of gold.
If the law of supply and demand operates on the value of
gold in the same way that that law operates on the value
of other commodities, then it is obvious that the value of the
gold dollar fluctuates exactly as the value of other commodities fluctuates.
In 1920 we were on the gold standard, and our basic
monetary unit was the gold dollar. In that year 1 bale of
cotton would exchange for 10 ounces of gold.
In 1932 1 bale of cotton would exchange for only 1 ounce
of gold.
In 1920, 1 ounce of gold would exchange for 81/2bushels
of wheat, while in 1932 the same ounce of gold would exchange for 80 bushels of wheat.
In 1920, 1 ounce of gold would exchange for 8 barrels
of oil, while in 1933 the same ounce of gold would exchange
for 100 barrels of oil.
At the times mentioned the same approximate ratio which
obtained between the value of gold and the value of cotton,
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corn, gold and livestock, and gold and property, real and
personal, of every kind and character.
Heretofore we have been taught that the value of gold
was stable, and that it was the value of commodities and
property that fluctuated in the market places. Since the
close of the World War public opinion has crystallized into
an axiom that the value of gold fluctuates with the supply
and demand therefor. Because of this belief and development practically all nations are today off gold insofar as
concerns having their currency tied to and redeemable in a
fixed weight of such metal.
For 4 years the American domestic dollar has been a
managed dollar. The value of the dollar is exactly what its
managers have prescribed and dictated. For 4 years our
dollar has lost value constantly.
Today the consumers and creditors complain that the
dollar is becoming too cheap and that prices are already
too high.
The producers and debtors deny that the dollar is too
cheap or that prices are too high.
Thus this ancient issue—consumers against producers,
creditors against debtors, and bulls against bears—is to the
fore again.
What are the facts?
Consumers and creditors call rising prices inflation, and
condemn the policy. Producers and debtors know that falling prices constitute deflation, and that deflation produces
panics, depression, and bankruptcy.
As stated, our Government is almost 150 years old. From
the beginning these groups have engaged in constant economic warfare.
During our national existence, in all periods save three,
the producer and debtor groups, because of high-valued
dollars and low prices, have been at a distinct disadvantage.
I am not arguing that the producer and debtor groups
should have an advantage; but it must now be obvious to all
that these groups, embracing by far the larger percentage
of our population, should not—and I prophesy that they
will not—continue to feed the few on the fat of the land,
and clothe the privileged class in fine raiment, while they
themselves, undernourished, scantily clothed and improperly
housed, toil and slave on a price level below cost of production, and on wages too low to permit a decent or humane
standard of existence.
Mr. President, the monetary system of any government is
one of the most important problems with which any such
government has to deal.
Our own monetary system is no exception to this rule.
The all-important item in all financial systems, at all
times, is the value of the monetary unit.
The value of the dollar controls prices, and prices control
income and prosperity.
When money is too plentiful, the dollar is too cheap, prices
are too high, and we have inflation.
When money is too scarce, the dollar is too high, prices
are too low, and we have depression.
Too cheap money produces inflation and consequent booms,
while too scarce money produces deflation and the inevitable
depressions and panics.
The Constitution confers upon the Congress the power to
regulate the value of the dollar; hence, the power to minimize, if not prevent, both inflation and deflation, and the
resultant booms and depressions.
To this date this constitutional power conferred upon the
Congress has never been formally or legally vitalized.
During most of the life of our Nation the dollar has been
either a fixed quantity of gold or silver of a certain degree
of fineness and minted into coins forming the basis of our
monetary system, or paper currency based upon and presumably redeemable in such monetary metals.
Today the dollar is neither based upon nor redeemable in
either gold or silver. Gold is out of circulation; hence, no
form of currency is redeemable in such metal.
Formerly silver certificates were redeemable in silver dollars, but now such certificates are redeemable not in silver
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means that the amount of silver needed for the redemption
of silver certificates varies from day to day as the value of
silver bullion varies in the markets of our country.
A few years ago our silver certificates contained on one
side, in substance, the words "redeemable in one silver dollar." Those certificates have been withdrawn from circulation, and the present certificates contain the wording, "So
many dollars, redeemable in silver." Mr. President, if you
should take a $1 silver certificate to the Treasury and ask
for its redemption, they probably would give you a silver
dollar; but that would not conform to the contract. The
contract on the silver certificate would require the Treasury
to weigh out to you $1 worth of silver and tender to you
or redeem for you your bill in either $1 worth of silver or
$2 worth of silver or $10 worth of silver, as the case may be.
Since the value of silver bullion changes daily, the amount
of silver you would receive for your dollar is subject to
change daily. So the contract as now printed on the paper
silver certificate is impracticable of operation. Nevertheless,
that is what it states on its face.
Today we are on neither a gold nor a silver standard.
As stated, the dollar is a managed money unit. We now
have a commodity dollar. The value of the dollar in terms
of commodities and services changes from day to day.
In February 1933 the dollar, then on the orthodox gold
standard, was valued in commodities at 167 cents.
One year ago the managed dollar, in buying power, was
worth 127 cents.
Today such dollar is worth 114 cents.
The dollar is constantly changing in value.
Under the old gold standard it likewise changed in value.
In the past the dollar, when based on gold or silver, or
both, has been a dollar of varying values.
Who is responsible for the kind or value of the dollar provided for the people of the country?
The Constitution answers:
The Congress shall have power * * * to coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin.

No other tribunal has the constitutional or legal right or
power to regulate the value of the dollar.
Important as this question is, the Congress has never exercised this power in a formal, practical, or legal manner.
It is obvious that the Congress could not, through its
committees or otherwise, exercise this constitutional power
directly. The exercise of such power makes mandatory adequate and proper legislation.
If Congress is unable to act directly in regulating the value
of the dollar, then such power must be delegated.
The delegation of legislative power is surrounded with difficulties.
Under the Constitution the coinage of money and the regulation of the value thereof was intended to be a complete
governmental monopoly.
In practice at times this monopoly has been farmed out to
private interests.
At this time there is no congressional mandate relative to
the regulation of the value of the dollar to any definite point.
As I have stated, the dollar is constantly losing its value.
It is going down day by day; and as the dollar goes down in
value, as it is doing today, as it did yesterday, as it will do
tomorrow, prices are constantly rising.
The question now is, How far will the Congress permit the
value of the dollar to fall, and, consequently, how high will
Congress permit the prices of commodities to rise?
I desire to place in the RECORD at this point plans and
specifications of the new dollar as outlined by the President.
On May 6, 1933, over a Nation-wide radio hook-up, President
Roosevelt said:
The administration has the definite objective of raising commodity prices to such an extent that those who have borrowed
money will, on the average, be able to repay that money in the
same kind of dollar which they borrowed.

Again, on July 3, 1933, in a message to the London Economic Conference, the President said:
Let me be frank in saying that the United States seeks the
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chasing and debt-paying power as the dollar value we hope to
attain in the near future.

He was frank to admit at that time that the dollar did
not then have the value which he wanted the dollar to have,
but he said that in the near future we hope to so regulate
the value of the dollar that it will have the value at which
we hope it may be stabilized.
On July 5, 1933, in a second message to the World Economic Conference, President Roosevelt said:
The revaluation of the dollar in terms of American commodities
is an end from which the Government and the people of the
United States cannot be diverted. We wish to make this perfectly
clear: We are interested in American commodity prices.

On October 22, 1933, in a Nation-wide radio address, the
President said:
It is the Government's policy to restore the price level first.

In the same address, at another point, he said:
When we have restored the price level we shall seek to establish
and maintain a dollar which will not change its purchasing and
debt-paying power during the succeeding generation. I said that
in my message to the American delegation in London last July.
And I say it now once more.

Mr. President, there we have the plans and specifications
of the President of the United States, if I may so term them.
But the President does not have the complete power to adjust and regulate the value of the dollar perhaps to the point
where he thinks it should be fixed. The only power the
President has directly over money is the power to still further reduce the gold content of the dollar. Under present
law he can take from the gold dollar 10 percent, approximately, of its present weight, thereby reducing the weight,
and consequently the value, of the gold dollar.
Under existing law the President has the power to reduce
the old gold dollar to one-half its former size. He has taken
40 percent from the value of the dollar, leaving 60 percent
in the dollar, and the only power the President has is as to
the remainder, between the 40 percent and the 50 percent.
Whether or not he will exercise that power further remains
to be seen. At the present time I see no occasion for him
to reduce the content of the gold dollar any further, for the
very obvious reason that the domestic dollar, the commodity
dollar, is a much higher valued dollar than the foreign gold
dollar. Every dollar in American money, when it gets outside of the United States, becomes a foreign dollar, and the
moment it becomes a foreign dollar it becomes of the value
exactly of 155/21grains of gold, because the foreign dollar can
be converted into gold.
We have set aside a $2,000,000,000 stabilization fund in
gold to see to it that our foreign dollar is held stable at the
value of 155/21grains of gold. But that rule does not apply
in the United States. The value of the dollar in the United
States is controlled entirely by the number of dollars in circulation, not by the amount of gold in the foreign dollar,
and not by the amount of silver in the domestic dollar, because the value of the silver in the domestic dollar is worth
about 30 cents, so that is out of the question.
The question now is, Can we regulate the value of the
dollar down to the point where we think it should be?
The Attorney General of the United States, in discussing
the gold clause issue before the Supreme Court, made some
reference to this question, and I desire to place in the
RECORD at this joint just what the Attorney General said,
and inasmuch as Senators are not very busy, I think it
might not be out of place to read what he said. In arguing
the gold-clause cases before the Supreme Court, Attorney
General Cummings used the following language:
It is my belief that the word "regulate" as used in the Constitution has never been completely and carefully analyzed in all
of its implications. How far does the term "regulate" carry us?
Manifestly, it reaches to the regulation of value, and value itself is
a relative thing. Value appears only in relation to the value of
other things.
And, moreover, the word "regulate" implies a continuing power,
and is the same term that is used with reference to commerce,
and connotes the power of adjustment. It implies the power of
making the condition accord more fully with reality and with
justice.
But when you come to the power "to fix the standard of weights
and measures", the Constitution abandons the word "regulate"
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All these things, philosophically or semiphilosophically considered, have some relationship to these sudden and violent fluctuations in commodity prices which so completely disarrange important equities; and to the proposition that, as a matter of essential
justice, the dollar we borrow should be, in purchasing power, substantially the dollar we are expected to repay. What that relationship is I do not assume to suggest, what the future may develop with regard to this aspect of the constitutional question I
do not know. These things will follow in due course.

Only a few months ago the Governor of the Federal Reserve Board, Mr. Marriner S. Eccles, delivered an address
in Cincinnati. After discussing some elements of the money
question at some length, in summarizing what he intended
to leave as definite suggestions, he used the following language:
The Government fiscal policy and the central-bank policy,
credit expansion and contraction should be coordinated. I think
that within the Treasury and the Reserve System there is a
real possibility of money management.

Mr. President, my construction of Mr. Eccles' statement
is that he thinks that if the power now vested in the President and the power now vested in the Treasury Department
were vested in his board, with the power which he now
has plus these two additional powers, he could satisfactorily
manage money. Governor Strong did it without the powers
which Governor Eccles has. If Governor Strong was able
to do it, Governor Eccles could do it. But he has no
mandate.
Who is there anywhere who can tell Governor Eccles at
what point of value the dollar should be stabilized? No
one can do that save the Congress. Anyone else who undertakes to do it assumes that power and speaks only for himself. That is what has happened for 148 years, and when
that has happened in these 148 years the holders of fixed
investments have had control and the producer, as shown
by this graph, for 149 years, save in three short periods,
have been at a distinct disadvantage.
Mr. Winthrop W. Aldrich, the chairman of the board of
directors of the Chase National Bank, in a recent address
before the Illinois Manufacturers' Association, described
some of the methods of control of the value of the dollar.
In this address he referred to the following powers:
(a) Raising the reserve requirements of member banks of
the Federal Reserve System.
(b) Control, through Federal Reserve, open-market operations.
(c) Control of the discount rate.
Mr. President, before I overlook it, I ask unanimous consent to print in connection with my remarks, and after I
shall have concluded, some data in the form of quotations
from Supreme Court decisions as to how the Congress can
delegate its power.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. SCHWELLENBACH in the
chair). Is there objection? The Chair hears none, and it
is so ordered.
(See exhibit A.)
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. Mr. President, the Senator
from Michigan [Mr.VANDENBERG]asked me a question awhile
ago about one phase of this subject, and in return I asked
him whether he was alarmed because of the amount of the
public debt which now rests upon the people of the United
States. I do not remember that he gave me a definite answer. I will not insist that he shall give me a definite
answer.
Mr. VANDENBERG. Mr. President, will the Senator
yield?
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I yield.
Mr. VANDENBERG. I shall be very happy to answer the
Senator if he desires to have my opinion. The subject was
injected solely because I was endeavoring to determine what
the Senator's interpretation of the Strong episode was. It
is my feeling that a continuous operating deficit in the Government inevitably leads to an inflation which is dangerous.
Mr. THOMAS of Oklahoma. I agree entirely with the
statement of the Senator, and I wish to suggest at this point
that there is no chance ever to balance the Budget until the
dollar has been stabilized, and there is no chance ever to get
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The dollar tomorrow will have a different value from what
it has today.
Not long ago strikes broke out in one of the States of the
Union. For the time being, those strikes were temporarily
settled; but shortly, with a mounting price level, unless
wages are increased accordingly, the wage earners who went
on strike only a few weeks ago will be forced to face a higher
price level, so they will perhaps go on a second strike. If
that is settled, shortly afterward there will come a third
strike. There is no chance to avert strikes, there is no
chance to balance the Budget until the dollar shall be
stabilized. With the stable valued dollar we shall have
stable valued commodities. Rents will become stabilized.
All the things the wage earners and all our people have to
buy will become more or less stabilized.
Of course, I do not say that the farmers will receive a
dollar and a half per bushel for wheat every year. Under
the system I am advocating, we might have $2 wheat one
year and 50-cent wheat the next year. In other words, if
wheat became unusually scarce because of drought or rust
or the chinch bug it would rise in value even with the
stabilized price level. On the other hand, if we should raise
a double crop of wheat it would go down in value, although
at the same time we might have a stabilized price level.
However, the theory of a stabilized price level is that as a
rule the commodities will be stabilized. In stabilizing seven
or eight hundred commodities it will be necessary to stabilize
some that are going up while others are going down.
Getting back to the question of the amount of the national
debt, I wish to place this statement in the RECORD for what
it is worth. It is my contention that the increased debt
resting upon the people of the United States today is less
in value than the smaller debt which rested upon them
when Mr. Roosevelt became President of the United States.
If that statement be true, no one has a just ground for
complaint because of the increase of the debt in terms of
dollars. It has not increased in terms of gold; it has decreased in terms of gold. The debt has not increased in
terms of wheat; it has decreased in terms of wheat. It has
not increased in terms of cotton, or oil, or oats, or of commodity prices generally. The debt has decreased during
the past 4 years in terms of the things I have just mentioned.
In order that an answer shall be available to those who
may wish to question my reasoning, I desire to give in the
RECORD the reasons for my statement.
Under this program the country is working out of the
worst depression in history. Some of our people are complaining that the dollar is already too cheap and that prices
are now too high. Also we hear fear expressed that the
public debt is becoming so large as to be dangerous, yet the
facts are that such debt today, in terms of gold and commodities, is not nearly so large, burdensome, or dangerous as the
debt inherited by the present administration.
On March 3, 1933, the total national debt was $20,934,729,209. Since 1933 the public debt has increased to $34,753,487,389, yet the debt today, in terms of gold, is $1,000,000,000
less than the debt of 4 years ago.
The truthfulness of this statement is easily demonstrated.
On March 3, 1933, we were on the single gold standard and
all our bonds were payable in gold at the rate of 25.8 grains
of gold 0.9 fine to the dollar. By multiplying the amount
of the debt by the number of grains of gold in each dollar,
we find that, on March 3, 1933, we owed 540,116,013,592
grains of gold.
Since March 3, 1933, we have reduced the gold content of
the dollar from 25.8 grains to 155/21grains, so that the
present debt, multiplied by the number of grains of gold in
the present dollar, shows that, at the present time, we owe
only 529,576,950,685 grains of gold.
By subtracting the value of the present debt, in terms of
gold, from the value of the 1933 debt, likewise in terms of
gold, we find that the present debt is almost $1,000,000,000
less than the debt of 4 years ago.
In terms of commodities the value of the present debt is
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truthfulness of this statement is likewise easily demonstrated.
On March 3, 1933, cash wheat was selling for approximately 25 cents per bushel or 4 bushels to the dollar. The
national debt at that time, measured in terms of wheat,
was equal to the value of approximately 84,000,000,000
bushels of wheat. Today cash wheat is selling for approximately $1.35 per bushel, so that the present debt, valued in
wheat, is equal to only approximately 26,000,000,000 bushels;
and 26,000,000,000 subtracted from 84,000,000,000 leaves 58,000,000,000, so that the present national debt, valued in
wheat, is approximately 58,000,000,000 bushels less than the
total national debt of March 4, 1933.
Certainly the man who raises wheat has no right to complain, because so far as he is concerned the debt resting on
his shoulders, or his portion of it, is 58,000,000,000 bushels of
wheat less than the smaller debt which rested on his shoulders on March 4, 1933.
So far as prices are concerned, wheat and oil are Siamese
twins. When wheat sold for 25 cents a bushel, oil was
selling for 25 cents a barrel. Today, when wheat is selling
for $1.35 per bushel, oil is selling for about the same amount
per barrel, so that the national debt, in terms of oil, is
approximately 58,000,000,000 barrels less than the national
debt of March 3, 1933.
In terms of cotton the national debt during the past 4
years has been decreased rather than increased. On March
3, 1933, the total national debt, in terms of cotton, equaled
approximately 837,000,000 bales. Today the total national
debt could be liquidated with approximately 496,000,000
bales, or the sum of 341,000,000 bales less than the value of
the debt 4 years ago.
In terms of corn the same conclusion is reached. Four
years ago the value of the national debt in terms of corn
equaled approximately 105,000,000,000 bushels. At that time
corn was selling for less than 20 cents per bushel. Today
corn is selling for over $1 per bushel; hence the present
debt in terms of corn is equal to approximately 34,500,000,000
bushels; so that in terms of corn the national debt is
approximately 70,000,000,000 bushels less today than on
the day Mr. Roosevelt became President of the United
States.
Mr. President, let me recapitulate briefly. During the
past 4 years the Congress has passed laws cheapening the
dollar and raising prices. The first law reduced the weight
of the gold dollar by 40 percent. The second law has expanded the currency by some $700,000,000 through a wider
use of silver. These laws have worked. The dollar is
cheaper and prices are higher.
As stated, the Constitution provides that Congress shall
regulate the value of our money. The laws enacted to date
form the first step in the program for the regulation and
stabilization of the value of the dollar. The next step is to
determine the proper point of value at which the dollar
should be stabilized. That is the purpose of the bill introduced by me today.
The bill just introduced suggests a formula for determining such point of value, suggests the means by which the
dollar shall be adjusted, regulated, and stabilized, and also
provides a governmental agency to carry out the policies to
be adopted by the Congress.
The bill proposes that the Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System shall be converted into an agency
of the Government, designated as a "monetary authority",
for the expressed purpose of supervising the operations of
the law.
The bill provides for the kind of a dollar favored by
President Roosevelt.
At this time many reasons suggest, if not demand, that
the dollar value be decided upon, and thereafter that such
adjusted and regulated value should be stabilized. The end
sought to be attained is in the public interest. The plan
suggested to bring about the desired results is possible,
practical, and constitutional. If the bill becomes a law, the
value of the dollar will be adjusted, regulated, and thereafter
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The practical effect of this program will be substantially
as follows:
First. The value of the dollar will be agreed upon and
thereafter adjusted to such value.
Second. The adjusted value will be stabilized, thereby
tending to stabilize the price level of commodities and
services.
Third. Under the plan suggested the threats of inflation,
likewise deflation, will be eliminated.
Fourth. This program is absolutely necessary and, when
adopted, will give the country a breathing spell, insofar as
monetary legislation is concerned.
EXHIBIT A

United States Reports, volume 293, October term, 1934, page
421 (Panama Refining Co. v. Ryan) :
"Undoubtedly legislation must often be adapted to complex
conditions involving a host of details with which t h e National
Legislature cannot deal directly. The Constitution has never
been regarded as denying to the Congress t h e necessary resources
of flexibility and practicality which will enable it to perform its
function in laying down policies and establishing standards,
while leaving to selected instrumentalities t h e making of subordinate rules within prescribed limits and t h e determination of
facts to which the policy as declared by t h e legislature is to
apply. Without capacity t o give authorizations of that sort we
should have the anomaly of a legislative power which in many
circumstances calling for its exertion would be but a futility."
United States Reports, volume 293, October term, 1934, paragraph 8, page 390 (Panama Refining Co. v. Ryan):
"Congress may lay down its policies and establish its standards
and leave to selected instrumentalities the making of subordinate
rules, within prescribed limits, and the determination of facts to
which the policy, as declared by Congress, shall apply."
MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE

A message from the House of Representatives, by Mr.
Megill, one of its clerks, announced that the House had
passed without amendment the joint resolution (S. J. Res.
110) declaring Joseph P. Kennedy eligible for appointment
as a member of the United States Maritime Commission.
The message also announced that the House had agreed
to the report of the committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of the
House to the joint resolution (S. J. Res. 75) making funds
available for the control of incipient or emergency outbreaks of insect pests or plant diseases, including grasshoppers, Mormon crickets, and chinch bugs.
PROFIT SHARING AND SIT-DOWN STRIKES

Mr. VANDENBERG. Mr. President, a few days ago,
when discussing the labor situation, I made this statement:
I think that appropriate and definite profit sharing is the essential key to the appropriate American labor relationship.

I believe that firmly although I do not pretend to present
a standard formula by which it can be done. I believe the
part the Government can play in such a prospectus may be
to offer tax exemptions to encourage the diversion of employer funds for profit-sharing purposes. I welcome every
evidence I see of encouragement for the profit-sharing idea.
There was a very interesting dispatch in the newspapers
this morning from Jersey City indicating a very significant
development in this connection, and I ask that it be printed
in the RECORD. I should like to see an official legislative
study of the whole profit-sharing subject.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
There being no objection, the dispatch was ordered to be
printed in the RECORD, as follows:
JERSEY FIRM'S 200 EMPLOYEES NOW PARTNERS—WORKERS ARE
JUBILANT AT 15 PERCENT SHARE I N MONTHLY PROFITS
JERSEY CITY, N. J., March 24.—Recognized now as partners, the

200 employees of the Union Packing Co. set out today to increase
business and the profits they will share in.
A promise of monthly dividends to the extent of 15 percent
of the profits came in a surprise announcement by Joseph Gross,
president of the meat-store chain, and Louis A. Falk, secretarytreasurer.
Employees, jubilant at the news, estimated their monthly cut
would range from $5 to $20 each for butchers and $18 to $75
for managers of the 50 stores in New Jersey and New York.
SEVENTY-FIVE DOLLARS A MONTH MORE

"I stand to make $75 a month more under this system", said
Stanley Tarack, manager of the largest in the chain.
"It is one of the best things t h a t ever happened. I t is going
to make every man step out now and see t h a t more sales and
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Tarack also predicted employees would be anxious to cut down
operating expenses.
Joseph Coppola, who has been behind a meat counter 3 years,
commented:
"I would rather work under this system than to get a flat raise
of so many dollars a week. I t is a very fine thing the company
is doing and they will benefit by it in the end."
MAY SOLVE UNITED STATES' PROBLEM

As for t h e bosses, Falk says t h e company has never had any
labor difficulties, and t h e partnership idea "might prove a way
out for the rest of the country if it follows suit."
"We may be altruists", Falk said, "but we can't see why one
person should earn $1,000,000 and another $20."
In business 16 years, the company has stores in Manhattan,
Long Island, and Westchester County, N. Y., and in five north
Jersey counties—Hudson, Passaic, Bergen, Union, and Essex. I n
1935 it gave employees $14,000 in cash bonuses.

Mr. VANDENBERG. Mr. President, while I am briefly
referring to the labor situation, may I add the statement of
my great satisfaction to see in the newspapers that a White
House conference apparently is contemplated this week end,
out of which may come seme expression from the President
respecting sit-down strikes. I know of nothing which would
be more important to the welfare of a harassed Nation
than an explicit statement from the Chief Executive upon
this subject. Government should speak upon this matter
without further delay and through its highest and most
authoritative mouthpiece.
CROP INSURANCE

The Senate resumed the consideration of the bill (S. 1397)
to create a Federal Crop Insurance Corporation, and for
other purposes.
Mr. POPE. Mr. President, it will be recalled that today
Senate bill 1397 was made the unfinished business. That
bill has to do with the creation of a crop-insurance program to be effective for the year 1938. It is my purpose to
discuss generally the arguments for a crop-insurance program in its relation to other agricultural programs that are
in effect, and perhaps at a later time I will discuss in detail
the specific provisions of the bill.
Mr. President, the Federal Trade Commission has just
submitted a report to Congress in response to a resolution
passed last year requesting an investigation of conditions
of agriculture. This report contains some very interesting
information. It is pointed out that in the last 25 years,
while the Nation's population has grown nearly 40 percent,
farm population has actually declined. In 1910, population
on farms was about 32,000,000. In 1929, it had fallen to
30,257,000. In 1935 it was back to 31,800,000, but about
200,000 less than in 1910. This decline took place in spite
of the fact that the annual excess of births over deaths on
the farm is from 400,000 to 500,000 a year. If those who
were born on the farm since 1910 had remained, farm
population would have increased more than 10,000,000. Instead of that, it has decreased some 200,000. It is estimated
by the Bureau of Agricultural Economics that over 6,000,000
persons left the farm between 1920 and 1929; yet this period
is regarded as one of general prosperity in business. Between 1930 and 1935, about 1,000,000 more people left the
farm than went to it, notwithstanding the fact that during
the depression a considerable number did move onto farms
in order to exist.
Interestingly enough, during the past 25 years the national
land area included in farms rose from 46 to 55 percent.
This leads the Federal Trade Commission to conclude that
the survival of independent farming by home owners is in
jeopardy.
Into this picture comes the specter of tenancy. In 1900,
35.3 percent of farmers were tenants; in 1910, 37 percent;
in 1920, 38.1 percent; in 1930, 42.4 percent; and in 1935, 42.1
percent. The actual number of tenants in 1935 was estimated at 2,865,000. It is estimated that tenancy is increasing at the rate of 40,000 a year. The depression, of course,
greatly accelerated tenancy. During the 4 years before the
depression the number of foreclosures per 1,000 farms varied
from 19 to 23 percent. In 1932 it was about 42 percent, and
in 1933, 50 percent. In 1936 it had been reduced to 28
percent.
Hardships among farmers are reflected in various ways.
It is found that in rural areas about 13 percent of those who