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http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis J 1222 - Ch/ _oes in Boundaries of FRDistrict,s • / • RECONST UCTI N FINANCE CORPORAMI t WASHINGTON stanoN FEB 5 1951 JAN 31 1951 Dear Mr. Carpenter: I have by reference zatir_i_12Lter . ..2 addressed to Mr. Leo Nielson, Secre21 111 ....1 tary of this Corporation, attaching copies of correspondenae with Senator. Virgil M. Chapman, _ pertaining to a rumor that Eastern Kentucky is to be removed from the Fourth Federal Reserve District. I have written to the Senator on the subject and for your ready reference copy of my letter is enclosed. Yours very truly MEAR TT Executive 4anager for the Board • Directors Mr. S. R. Carpenter Secretary Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Washington 25, D. C. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I FOR 171.7.S Patricia B. Ivie che RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPO WASHINGTON 25, D.C. COPY Dear Senator Chapman: Mr. S. R. Carpenter, Secretary, al Reserve System has referBoard of Governors of the Feder of your letter of January 19 red to this Corporation copy man McCabe. with enclosure addressed to Chair On January 17, 1951 W..E. Harber, to Mr. E. D. Wilder RFC Board Chairman wrote directly Mr. Harberts letter is about the matter and copy of enclosed. Subsequent to that letter, the been revised territory served by our Louisville Office has cky and by reason of to include the entire State of Kentu Louisville territhe inclusion of Eastern Kentucky in the in Eastern Kentucky tory, applicants for RFC loans domiciled than our Cleveland, will deal with our Louisville Office rather portion of the State Ohio Office which formerly covered that February 1, this of Kentucky. This revision is effective year. Sincerely yours, (SiLned) A. B. M=RITT A. B. MERRITT Executive Manager for the Board of Directors Honorable Virgil M. Chapman United States Senate Washington, D. C. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis FOR FILES Patricia B. Ivie hILzs stenobt FEB 5 1951 0 RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPORATION Washington, D. C. January 17, 1951 Mr. E. D. Wilder Secretary Lexington Chamber of Commerce 152 East High Street Lexington, Kentucky Dear Yr. Wilder: I have for acknowledgment your letter of January 11 referring to certain changes in RFC Branch Offices and territorial supervision in the State of Kentucky. The Directors of the Corporation have no plan in mind to eliminate or transfer any of our thirty-one Icz,n Agency Offices or Branches. Arrangements have been made to consolidate the bookkeeping and other fiscal activities of the Loan Agencies and Branches in ten of the existing Loan Agency Offices. This move has been taken with the objective of reducing non-essential administrative expenses and to improve the services available through the Corporation. Our Loan Agency Office at Louisville, Kentucky presently serves the approximate western half of Kentucky and our Loan Agency at Cleveland serves the approximate eastern half of the State. The entire State of Ohio is served by our Cleveland Office and we do not maintain a Branch Office at Cincinnati. Some thought has been given to including the entire State of Kentucky in the territory covered by our Louisville Office, but no action has been taken in this connection. Your interest in the matters about which you have written is appreciated. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Sincerely yours, /s/ W. E. Harber Chairman FI7,73 Patricia B. Ivie ici http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 251* , Mr. Leo Nielson, Secretary, Reconstruction 7innnce Corporation, 11 Vermont Avenue, ii. W., Washington 25, D. C. Dear Mr. Nielson: There is referred herewith for your consideration a copy of_4_10ter_dated January /9, 1951," with enclosure, which Senator Chapman, 61-Kehtbety, addressed to Chairman -McCabe regarlirff a rumorel change in the territory of the Fourth Federal Reserve District, together with a cop7 of the reply, we have male to Lenator Chaprlan. I tnderstani that Mr. Kenyon discussed this correspondence with you by elephone yesterday. Very truly yours, -44ED) & ReCARPEMTI S. R. Carnenter, Secretary. Enclosures rtiKu 1/2 MR.l'rr' • —,..its'164:* " " --4)9411VAit'7 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I. cti yded JAN 2'11 Honorablo Virr,1.1 14 Chapman, TinitrA States onste, Vashington, 11. C. Der ! enter Charemn: This will 7.:Icknoi,41edge._..y•ou.r letter of Janwry 19, . 1951, tilirescei to (4irman MOCabo, with uhich you enclo sed a 1ett,4.. a- frort T Tr. E1'%iiljer, 5Ceret•Er7 of the Chazrabar of , , 2 Cameron in Lexington, Kentucky, concerning moor s !.;hat erastxrn rientuelvi is to ho remowA fron the Fourth Federal :Zeserve District., 3uch a change is not trailer consideraf:Aon by the at the present time, and 14o ha,1 been unriware of au macaws to that effect. No chenr7.7 in the bounlaries of a rederal :?,er:orve Distrif....r, can be effected exceo t by action of the Eloarl of Governors, aril I can assare you thrit it would not be mde vithout fall and complete delib eration. As the stateraen•,s in 14r. Iiilder':••• letter relate also to tc-rritories liervn4 by mrticular loan egenc , , ier,of the •!-€..tecnv.. traction Finance Corporation, we are : taking the liberty of referring a copy or his lett,er •;:;o that CorT)ortation for further attentior• Very truly ycnn.c, S. R. Carpenter, Secretary. cc: Mr. Leo Nielson, ecretary, Reconstruction Finance Corp. 4 tan* • A '10 41 ; 11. J. DorietiertY— fr;.4 I CHAIRMAN MILLARD E. TYDINGS, MD., STYLES BRIDGES, N. H. CHAR GURNEY. S. OAK. RICHARD B. RUSSELL. GA. HARRY FLOOD BYRD, VA. VIRGIL CHAPMAN, KY. LYNDON B. JOHNSON, TEX. ESTES KEFAUVER, TENN. LEVERETT SALTONSTALL. MASS. WAYNE MORSE, OREG. WILLIAM F. KNOWLAND, CALIFJ LESTER C. HUNT, WYO. HARRY P. CAIN, WASH. J. NELSON TRIBBY, CLERK http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis IN FILEs SECTION 11Cnifeb Zia:fez Zeivato COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES 4sai JAN 2 1951 , January 19, 1951 Honorable Thomas B. McCabe, Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System, Federal Reserve Building, Washington 25, D. C. Dear Mr. McCabe: Enclosed is a copy of letter I have received from my good friend, Ed Wilder, Secretary of the Chamber of Commerce, Lexington, Kentucky, which explains itself. Mr. Wilder will be grateful, and I will be most appreciative, if you will look into tais matter and advise me. With all good wishes, Sincerely yours, Enclosure rou Mas m. j D°Whert . -A.M... -h. LEXIrGTON OHAN.B72. OF CO1417PCE, Inc 152 East High Street, Lexington, Kentucky. January Eleven 1951 The Honorable Virgil Chapman Senate Office Building, Washington, D. C. Dear Virgil: Our banking and business interests are very much disturbed over the rumor that eastern Kentucky is to be removed from the Fourth District of.the Federal Reserve and that the Reconstruction Finance Corporation will require us to do business with the Louisville or St. Louis branches. We have very little business relationship with the St. Louis area and far less with the Louisville area than we have to the northward and eastward of Lexington. The coal, timber and tobacco interest in the eastern half of Kentucky, as well as our general business and industrial transactions are more with the north and the east int he Fourth Federal Reserve District. We have been admirably served by the R. F. C. branch in Cincinnati and we urge you to help up remain in that district. Anything you can do will be greatly appreciated. With kind regards and best wishes, we are http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Sincerely, LEXINGTON CHIA/DER. OF CDMERCE ED WILDER, SECRI7ARY lt 7,otigterti http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • 1. .11"rx7;157-2ZTIEERTE',GT RIN k. t„ JAN • 3 195Q r. law H. aidney, President, Fedoral Reserve Bank of Cleveland, 'leveland 1, Ohio. Dear •"/-. Cidney: There is enclosed frr your information a copy of the reply which the Board is today making to "bncressman Brent Spence of Kentucky regarding e complaint which he received from 4.. Thomas Graha ' of Louisville, as to the division of the State , of Kentucky betreen the Fourth and Eighth Federal 1*.eserve districts, and suvestinr the estnblishment of a branch at Lexington. A copy of !ir. Graham's letter is also enclosed. The Board has sent a similar reply to an identical letter which 'Tr. Graham addressed to Congressman Prank Chelf, also of Kentucky. Very truly yours, (Signed) Merritt ffhetnitn Merritt Sherman, Assistant Secretary. .entical letter to: Yro Chester C. Davis, President, Federal eserve Bank of St. Louis, St. Lo ouri ETI 1 FOR FILES \ W. R. Corkhum REC'D If JA1•1 1. 3 1953 JAN - l'95t) 'ionorable 'raet flouse of Representatives, )11shineben, D. C. ;ear r.f:Ipence: letter datedfloOer 7 Which you This refers to Vr. ThomaeGraham of muisville regarding a rereceived from ediusteent or '45dera1 Reserve district lines involvirx the z7.tate of *i.ontecky, end the establishment of a "sub-bank" at T_Axineten. atee that western Kentueley is served by the Cincinnati The letter A:* the Federal Reserve Bonk of aevelend and the eastern eert Breech of We ,,tete by the IJmuisville VraneL of the Federal !eserve '3ank of et. IDUis. just the reverse, of course, is true es the •ineinnati Branch servee the eastern part of the ftate and the I,ouieville 1141uneh the wentern eert of the State. ith respect to 'raham's ceeplaint as to the division of the State between two Pederal Reserve districts, Section 2 of the Foderel Ileserre Act, wietch charged the Orruniestion Coemittee with the responsibility of establishing the Federal ieseree districts, contains the provision th.ra: the districts "shall be 6p2ortio7led with due regRrd t the convenience wad oustomary course ef Lusiness and shall not necessarily be coterninous with any :Ante or ZAsites.' The decision of the Orranitation Committee, which placed the western part of Kentu4y in the St. Lmais district end the eastern eertioe of the State in the Cleveland district, was announced on AprIl 10, 1914 prior to the establisheent of the Federal 'eser, e ! Pants. In determinin: the several districts the Coniittee stated, among ether V-Ale7s, that it' tendeReored to follow State lines ee closely as practicable, and 'wherever it has been found necessary to deviate the division has been along lines which are believed to be most oonvenient end advantageous for the district efrected." under the law the noard has etpority to readjust existing Pederal Reserve districts, and ehanes in territories Neve been naf!e from time to time in the past. No set proceure has been established in eonnection with such chenilles in boundaries; generally, member banks which have sot -ht trensfer tre,e one district te another L140,,e1; s At/14 ('9( /of 3d i. (Yi 3d1. 4?) http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis CT iLECTOT\f1 JAN 13 1950 Honorable rent epenee -2e petitioe to the eoard of Governore settAn forth heve Isbedtted the reasons wixe the seceested ohenge in district lines wan 0.eened desirable. In entine upon any suoh petition the hoard would, of course, consider all relevant factors and weule '-deve in mind the e previonsly mentioned provinion of the Federal - eserve test that OVA distriets "ithell be eppertioned with etAe leeferd to the convenienoe and oestoeary course of business and shall not neoesearily be coterminous with any State nr States." A review of the te)ardfc elles iedicetes Vett abeet ton years ego Mr. Fsajme.,,Binetleete.er the ";uisville eelrier JoAreal" and the "Louisville fteeeeiteeteeie Senator eeceel et -Tent:101y succestier, the desirabili.ty of transferring to the Federal eserve district of St. eeuis that portion of• Yentuoky steirned to the Cleveland Federal Rome:0 Astrict. Then the bankers in the eftstern part of the .te..te learned or this move prectically every benh in the none filed a protest with the Federal eeserve Vetnk of lemeland. In sepport of propesal, the benks pointed out that the their objecttans to 'tech territory covered was oririnally laid out le serve leusinoss and bankinr to the best adveeteeel that no material chimee had taken place in the flan of lesinese in the 'Watery since the establishthe nrieinel boundary lines and Abat they were satisfied veet with the dlstriet lines of their Federal leverve district as drawn. eee matter WAS not purseed any further. le_tter suerestinr the As to that part of Pr. establiehment o t "sub-bank" at Lexincbee„ it is mssured he Leans . a branch Federal ieserve Lank. It is not entirely clear ebether to place the entire .State of i4ntualry in one Federal his sucrestion Reserve district end sot ep a brenoh at Lexintton oontemplates the removal of the present trench from Louisville. As you knee, there is also a branch ;oderal Reserve Hank at Cincinnati which is only a little weer one hundred miles from ioulseille. cith Lexineten beinEwithin such a short distance of these two cities the establishment of smother branch at Lexintton weuld hardly seen to he eustified. While no Jefinite standards have been prescribed by the neerd for the detereinetioe of the necessity for estaelisheent of a new breech, certain factors have been riven eonsideratiou in this connection in the past. Amon, these factors have been the followine: the num'ter of banks in the territery affected; whether the establishent of the branch would afford banks in the torvitor ,dy reoelytar quicker and more efficient servico thnn they were alre, from the Pederal Reserve Bank head article or brafia: with vmich the ,e were affiliated, inclding such services as tee collection ee eLe01 and eleteirier of cerroney; end the estimated coot clDration of tbo nroposold brtnoh. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis C • • ••••••• P.EC'D IN FIT,FS SECTION JAN 13 .1950 ruble Jrert Iponee -'3 OW Should you have any Purther questions in oonnestion with the ;ratters about rhAoh Lr. Craham wrote you, we shall be'pleased to attempt to ansrar them. Vary truly yours, J 117-;:- 2 S. H. S. R. narpenter, Secretary. APPROVt •••••••••I MINUTES ON-7-4e,e' '"C , ' BEHALF OF THE BOARO. 3 1950 4( ..;pproved: ... • (Initial) http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 . C ppy „IAN 3 1950 Honorable Frank Chelf, House of '3.epresentatives, :.ashington, D. C. Pear 1 -r. Chelft This refers to the letter dated November. 7 Which you received Pram Hr. Thomas (1-Eiamirii3X1e re:arding a readjustment of Federal Reserve district lines invol ving the State of Kentucky, and the establishment of a "sub-bank” at Lexington. The letter states that western Kentucky is served by the Cincinnati Branch of :he federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland and the eastern part of the State by the Louisville Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. Just the reverse, of course, is true as the Cincinnati Branch serves the eastern part of the State and the Louis ville Branch the western part of the State. with respect to Yr. irisiham's complaint as to the division of the 'tate 1,etreen two Pederal Reserve distr icts, Section 2 of the Federal Tieservy Act, which charged the Organizati on Caumittee with the responsibility of establishinc the Feder al Reserve districts, contains the provision that the districts "shall be apportioned with due regard to the convenience and customary course of business and shall not necessarily be coterminou s with any State or rAates." The decision of the Orranization Committee) , yelich placed the western nart of Kentucky in the .t. Louis district and the eesteri oertion of the State in the -lov e/and district, was announce( . 1 on April 10, 191b prior to the estab lishment of the Federal eserve Danks. In Oeterminink: the several distr icts the rbmmittee stated, amonr other things, that it "endeavore d to follow State lines as closely as practicable, and wherever it has been found necessary to deviate the division has been along lines rill& are believed to be most convenient and advantageo us for the district affected." ilnder the law the Board has aAhority to readj ust existing Federal Reserve districts, and chan ce in territories have been made from time to time in the past. Ho set procedure has been established in connection with such Chang es in boundaries; generally, member banks vhich have sought transfer fram one district to another http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis C REVD LN FirtrsEcrioti JAN 13 1953 Honorable Frank (belt - 2- have submitted a petition to the eoard of Governors setting forth the reasons -why the sueeested change in district lines was deemed desirable. In acting upon any such petition the Boord would, of course, consider all relevant factors end would have in mind the previously mentioned provision of the Federal Reserve Act that the districts "shall be apportioned with duo regard to the convenience and customary course of business and shall not necessarily be coterminous with any State or States." L / A review of the Board's files indicates that about ton years ago 114*. Barry..Bingham of the "Louisville Courier Journal" and the "Louisville Times" wrote to Senator Loran of Fentucky sugeesting the desirability of transferring to the Federal Reserve district of St. Louis that portion of 3';entuoky assirned to the eleveland Federal eeserve district. ehen the bankers in the eastern part of the State learned of this move practically every bank in the zone filed a protest with the Pederal eeserve Bank of eleveland. In support of their objections to such a propesal, the banks pointed out that the territory covered was originally laid out ee serve business and bankine to the best advantage; that no material change had taken place in the flow of business in the territory since the ertablishmerit of the original boundary lines and that they were satisfied with the district lines of their Federal reserve district as drawn. The matter was not pursued any further. As to that part of Vr. Graham's letter sueestinv the establishment of a "sub-bank" at Lexington, it is assumed he means a branch Federal eeserve Benk. It is not entirely clear whether his sep -estion to place teo entire State If kentucky in one Federal eeseree district and set up a branch at Lexineton contemplates the removal of the present branch from Louisville. An you know, there is also a branch Federal Reserve Bank at Cincinnati which is only a little over one hundred miles from Louisville. eith Lexineton being within such a short distance of these two cities the establishment of another branch at Lexington would hardly seem to be justified ehilo no definite standards have been prescribed by the hoard for the determination of the neceseite fer establish:ment of a new branch, certain factors have been :Aven consideration in this connection in the past. Among these factors have been the following: the number of banks in the territory affected; whether the establishment of the branch would afford banks in the territory quicker and more efficient service than they were already receiving from the Federal Reserve Bank head office or branch with which they were affiliated, including such services as the collection of checks and oh -aiming of currency; and the estimeted cost of operation of the eroposed branch. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 C y 'C'D IN PILES SECTION JAN llonorable Frank j3 1950 3 Should you have any further questions in connection with the matters about which 7'r. Graham wrote you, we shall be pleased to attempt to answer them. Very truly yours, S. R. Carpenter, Secrotary. APPROVAV CtAArVaft\'..- A • U . OF BOARD 04 BEHALF OF THE . ,.......................' 7 6............00pris‘V , . • ... ......... ‘,-.,111.., .. ,,,-"'",(2„,....) ; ••••••./.. • , -........ rtNee TTNUTES : .................... .........—,........4...---(InIttai) 4,1proved: http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 3 1950 JJC:ct ' 2-28449 \ .11M11 , C FOR FILES W. 11. Corkhum y http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Honornble Frank L. Chelf, iTouse of Renresentvtives, Iqashington, D. C. This is to acknowledce receipt or your letter (lf_NPriabler 30 enclosing s communication you have had from W. Thomas Graham, of Louisville, Kentucky, regard— inr the livision of the State of Kentucky between tl/o Federal eserve districts. The answer to this ouention entails some investigation, anl we aro taking the liberty of making an interim acknowlelgment. We assure you that the reply to Ph. Graham's inquiry will be sent to you as soon as study of his nroposal con bn completed. FRANK L. CHELF COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY 4-1- --slisTRicr, KENTUCKY , . SUBCOMMITTEES: IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION . HOME ADDRESS: LEBANON, KENTUCKY http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Congre55 of Mt Viniteb 5tatc. REC'D jbouoe of ileproentatibess . mitniu, A JAN 13 1.,53 Q11a0bington, O.C. 30 November 1949 Mr. Samuel Carpenter, Secretary Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Carpenter: I am enclosing a self-explanatory letter which I have received from Mr. Thomas Graham, of Louisville, Kentucky. Any information which can be furnished me in this regard will be appreciated. Sincerely yours, Frank L. Chelf. Y • _D •N JOHN W. CRIMMINS CHAIRMAN OF ORGANIZATION • .,LEPHONE •CKSON 5394 LENNIE W. McLAUGHLIN SECRETARY R,EC'D IN PIL DEMOCRATIC COUNTY EXECUTIVE CO III 4 13 : 305 TYLER BUILDING LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY THOMAS GR AHAM CHAIRMAN FINANCE COMM ITTEE DEMOCRATIC Fl NANCE 1 949 COMMITTEE November 7, 1949 WM. 0. ALDEN. JR. O'NEAL, ALDEN a, CO. M. M. BONNER 614 W. WALNU T. ROBERT BURK E. JR. KY. HOME LIE E BLDG. A. E. CABBELL LINCOLN BAN LLOYD CLAR BANK OF LOU ISVILLE SID CLAY U. S. TRUST CO. CLIFFORD COOMES 874 FETTER EDWARD DA VIS PYTHIAN B LDG. JOHN H. D AUGHERTY KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. JOHN DUG AN 1445 S. THIRD ST. CHARLES DUNN 800 BAXTER SAM ESKE KY. HOM E LIFE BLDG. ROBERT EVANS CITIZEN S FIDELITY BANK CHAS.0 EWING. III . OSCAR EWING DAIRY CO. !SCHER CARL F 1062 M ELLWOOD AVE. GORDO N FORD KY. H OME LIFE BLDG. HENRY GERBER LOUISVILLE WATER CO. FERD GNAU 31 U. S. TRUST BLDG. F. A. GULLEDGE BAN K OF ST. HELENS•SHIVELY ROBERT HATTON M. E. TAYLOR BLDG. WOO D HANNAH BA NKERS BOND CO. SCOTT HAMILTON Y. HOME LIFE BLDG. MATT HARGAN STOCK YARDS BANK ROBERT HENSLEY KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. . HOWARD HOPKIN 100 CHENOWETH LANE RITZ HUTTMANN 741 S. THIRD ST. DWIN KLEIN ROYAL INDUSTRIAL BANK SAM KIRBY. JR. 201 N. BIRCHWOOD RAY KIRCHDORFER KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. DR. J. A. C. LATTIMORE 15TH & WALNUT SEN. C. W. A. McCANN 712 W. JEFFERSON STANLEY McGEE HEYBURN BLDG. RALPH NEBLETT BANK OF JEFFERSONTOWN ALBERT PHILLIPS FIRST NATIONAL BANK IRA PORTER LOUISVILLE TRUST CO. MERLE ROBERTSON LIBERTY BANK & TRUST CO. ALVIN ROSENBERG 1411 WILLOW LEON SHAIKUN 116 W. BRANDEIS ROBERT SLOSS M. E. TAYLOR BLDG. MAX WALDMAN M. E. TAYLOR BLDG. EDWARD WILLIS KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. HOLMAN WILSON LOUISVILLE TRUST BLDG. THOMAS YOUNG KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Hon. Frank L. Chelf Lebanon, Ky. Dear Frank: One of the worst things that has been inflicted on Kentucky has been the division of the State from an economic standpoint by the Federal Reserve System - Western Kentucky being served by Cleveland through Cincinnati, and the Eastern part of the State by St. Louis through Louisville. It seems to me the greatest service u could render Kentucky would be to see that the S ate is put into one District and, additionally, these o gh be a sub-bank in Lexington. Then the state wo d net be in economic integration as it is at,the pres3nt im which does more harm than anything I know of. Yours _rel Thomas G aham TG:CN to http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis BEC'D IN FILES SE0110.1 JAN 13 1950 4s* ior&1k rcnt Spence, 'Touat,- of aeTiresentztivos„ :ashirzton, T. C. !'..7 dear 1;),:x.. Conc!rm'aman: Thio is to acknowlodce your :li_ettr Nover* 17 enclozin a =lonrunicAtian you Tvav- hal frQ y11r frieni Thcmas Grahnm, an Investment banker In Loqiaville, Kentucky, uho writes recnrdins: the livision of the aate of Kentucky betycen two Toleral Reserve districts.. The answer to this qmstion entaila mze reference, an ve are tsiting the Inorty of tekiir, an interim acknouletionont, with the anskrnce that the reply to Mr. Graham's inquiry vi11 be sent to you as soon so study of' it can be completel. trust tl)nt lelsy uill not be inconvenient. Very traly T-31zrs, IR - AV Nft5.;;Itt Try Assivtent neeretary. FOR FILES W. R. Corklaum •••••• C EIGHTY-FIRST CONGRESS • & *4 A '''.1) T „J,I I 13 19O BRENT SPENCE, KY., CHAIRMAN PAUL BROWN, GA. WRIGHT PATMAN, TEX. A. S. MIKE MONRONEY, OKLA. JESSE P. WOLCOTT, MICH, RALPH A. GAMBLE, N. Y. FREDERICK C. SMITH, OHIO BROOKS HAYS, ARK. ALBERT RAINS, ALA. FRANK BUCHANAN, PA. ABRAHAM J. MULTER, N. Y. JOHN C. KUNKEL, PA. HENRY 0. TALLE, IOWA CHARLES B. DEANE, N. C. GEORGE D. O'BRIEN, MICH. CHASE GOING WOODHOUSE, CONN. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ALBERT M. COLE, KANS. CLINTON D. MCKINNON, CALIF. HUGH J. ADDONIZIO, N. J. ISIDORE DOLLINGER, N. Y, DONALD W. NICHOLSON, MASS. ROLLA C. MC MILLEN, ILL. CLARENCE E. KILBURN, N. Y., COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND CURRENCY WASHINGTON MERLIN HULL, WIS. HARDIE SCOTT, PA. November 17, 1949 HUGH B. MITCHELL, WASH. BARRATT O'HARA, ILL. WILLIAM J. HALLAHAN, CLERK http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 11, 0 Honorable Thomas B. McCabe Chairman, Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washington, D. C. My dear Mr. Chairman: I herewith enclose a letter,which I have received from my friend, Thomas Graham, an investment banker in Louisville, Kentucky. I would like to have your reaction to his subject. With all good wishes, I am Sincerely, r • McKAY REED CHAIRMAN JOHN W. CRIMMINS CHAIRMAN OF ORGANIZATION • TELEPHONE JACKSON LENNIE W. McLAUGHLIN SECRETARY C'D LN 1117=276}1 5394 DEMOCRATIC COUNTY EXECUTIVE COM ITT% 131953 305 TYLER BUILDING a, LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY THOMAS GRAHAM CHAIRMAN FINANCE COMMITTEE DEMOCRATIC FINANCE COMMITTEE 1949 November 7, 1949 WM. 0. ALDEN. JR. O'NEAL, ALDEN & CO. M. M. BONNER 614 W. WALNUT. ROBERT BURKE, JR. KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. A. E. CABBELL LINCOLN BANK LLOYD CLARK BANK OF LOUISVILLE SID CLAY U. S. TRUST CO. CLIFFORD COOMES 874 FETTER EDWARD DAVIS PYTHIAN BLDG. JOHN H. DAUGHERTY KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. JOHN DUGAN 1445 S. THIRD ST. CHARLES DUNN 800 BAXTER Hon. Brent Spence Ft. Thomas, Ky. SAM ESKEW KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. ROBERT EVANS CITIZENS FIDELITY BANK My dear Mr. Chairman: CHAS. 0. EWING. III OSCAR EWING DAIRY CO. CARL FISCHER 1862 MELLWOOD AVE. GORDON FORD KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. HENRY GERBER LOUISVILLE WATER CO. FERD GNAU 31 U. S. TRUST BLDG. F. A. GULLEDGE BANK OF ST. HELENS-SHIVELY One of the worst things that has been inflicted on Kentucky has been the division of the State from an economic standpoint by the Federal Reserve System - Western Kentucky being served by Cleveland through Cincinnati, and the Eastern part of the State by St. Louis through Louisville. ROBERT HATTON M. E. TAYLOR BLDG. WOOD HANNAH BANKERS BOND CO. SCOTT HAMILTON KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. MATT HARGAN STOCK YARDS BANK ROBERT HENSLEY KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. W. HOWARD HOPKIN It seems to me the greatest service y could render Kentucky would be to see that the St is put into one District and, additionally, th to be a sub-bank in Lexington. Then the Stat be in economic integration as it is at the p which does more harm than anything I know of 100 CHENOWETH LANE FRITZ HUTTM ANN 741 S. THIRD ST. EDWIN KLEIN ROYAL INDUSTRIAL BANK SAM KIRBY, JR. 201 N. BIRCHWOOD RAY KIRCHDORFER KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. DR. J. A. C. LATTIMORE 15TH & WALNUT SEN. C. W. A. McCANN 712 W. JEFFERSON STANLEY McGEE HEYBURN BLDG. RALPH NEBLETT BANK OF JEFFERSONTOWN ALBERT PHILLIPS FIRST NATIONAL BANK IRA PORTER LOUISVILLE TRUST CO. MERLE ROBERTSON LIBERTY BANK & TRUST CO. ALVIN ROSENBERG 1411 WILLOW LEON SHAIKUN 116 W. BRANDEIS ROBERT SLOSS M. E. TAYLOR BLDG. MAX WALDMAN M. E. TAYLOR BLDG. EDWARD WILLIS KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. HOLMAN WILSON LOUISVILLE TRUST BLDG. THOMAS YOUNG KY. HOME LIFE BLDG. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis TG:CN http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis tLt Ik PILES Ai V 1 in.! i$12.' .44rwav NOV 10 14' Mr. Ralph L. Thomas, Assistant Vice President, Peoples First National Tiank & Trust Company, Pittsburgh 30, Pennsylvania. F.:ear Mr. Thomas: Mr. Leonard 'vas referred to me your letter of October 71 pasp000AtiospiiidAwmakm,wirpme014Primqvimilispwregarding the possibility of having one of your correspondent banks in thr? Fifth District transferred to the Fourth Dir,trict, The Board is authorized by paragraph 1 of Section 2 of the Federal Reserve Act to readjust district boundaries, laut no set procedure has been established for consideration of requests for such a(!justments. In the past, where there has been strong sentiment amon the banks in a given region to be transferred from one district to another, vtitions to that effect have been presented to the Board of Lkwernors. Any such petition should, of course, set forth in detail the reasons why the change is thought desirable. Very truly yours, Mietikof tiskr „. Pray Hammond, Assistant Secretary. • rott Trtzus A. TA. Yates http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE u-Eog,,RAL REsuev_4,..s.y,1pt_ :T.CTION .. 1 To: November 71 1947. Mr. Leonard From: V 1 2 1947 Mr. Hammond h? I must claim responsibility myself for the blunder of fetching in Mr. Bailey and can implicate no others except for failing to catch my error. The letter in its present form follows previous correspondence in similar cases. Mr. Daniels and I had much rather leave out reference to the Federal Reserve Banks. They would, of course, be informed of any petition after it was received, but it seems to us that we should do as little as possible that might encourage the petition by indicating more than the simplest step to be taken in presenting it. For this same reason it seems to us that the distinction between transfer of a bank and transfer of the territory in which the bank is situated is not one that there is any call to make. Do you go along with us? yo ITLES A. L. Yates PILES SECTION KA/12 194-'' PEOPLES FIRST NATIONAL BANK &TRUST COMPANYPITTSBURGH 30,PENNSYLVANIA October 29, 1947 Mr. Robert lc Leonard, Director Division of Examinations Board of Governor of the Federal Reserve Board Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Leonard: A mutual friend of ours, Bill Bailey, Chief Examiner of the Fifth District,mentioned that you might be the individual to give me an answer on tnis question. One of our correspondent banks is in the Fifth District now and is very anxious to be transferred to the Fourth District. All trade in that area goes toward Pittsburgh rather than Baltimore and Richmond. What would you suggest as to the proper procedure to request consideration of this and to whom should it be addressed. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Cordially ours, cLpakt, Rah L. Thomas Assista t Vice President (i nuts A. L. Yates 1/ // Lr. Horbett: SECTION For the benefit of the records, the source of inform tion concern— ing the number of banks affected by the transfer of territo frcnrein 2 11957 ' Federal Reserve district to another is as follows: Territory Transferred Fairfield County, Connecticut / transferred from 1st. to 2nd. F.R.District Date of Transfer Number of ource Vember hanks _01) of information Comptroller's Abstract No. 100 (May 1916) p.11 4/1/1916 15 _// Sixteen parishes in Louisiana transferred from 11th to 6th F.R.District 4/1/1916 16 Twelve counties J/ transferred fromin New Jersey 3rd to 2nd 7/1/1915 v 131 7/1/1915 \, 5 do. 121 do. 2.R.District / Tyler and Wetzel counties, J West Virginia, transferred from 5th to 4th F.R.District "Twenty—six counties in Oklahoma transferred from 11th to 10th F.R.District 7/1/1915 , s; /Twenty—five counties in Wiscon— 1 1 / /1917 j sin transferred from 9th to 7th F.R.District Parts of Sharkey and Yazoo Coun— 12/12/1919 ties, Mississippi (made part of new county Humphreys) trans— ferred from 6th to 8th F.R.Dis— trict Bernalillo and Valencia Cos.,New Mex. trans. from 11th to 10th Dist. )4/15/1926 * All National banks; No state bank members in territory at time of the transfer http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 52 None 3 do. Comptroller's Abstract No. 96 (Sept.1915) p.11 Comptroller's Abstract No. 105 (1,-ar.1917) p.11 Letter to Deputy Comptroller Kane, 2/1 / 920. (File 11 124208, Transfer of Humph— reys 'jo..riss. from 6th to " 8th District.) Board letters toGov(rs. K.C. & Dallas 3/30926 o IN RECORDS SECTION FEDERAL RESERVE BANK BRANCH ZOnS Changes in Territory October 1, 1938 f":9 2 1 1957 The following counties in Washirgton: Asotin Columbia Garfield Walla Wb..11a The following counties in Idaho: Benewah Bonner Boundary Clearwater Idaho Kootenai Latah Lewis :hoshone Nez Perce ( transferred frora Seattle Zone to Portland Zone • October 1, 1938 Spokane Branch discontinued November 1, 1938 Calhoun and Refugio Counties, Texas, transferred from San Antonio Zone to Houston Zone. June 1, 19L0 Presiftio County, Texas, transferred from San Antonio Zone to El Paso Zone July 1, 19L0 Sixteen counties in North Carolina transferred from Richmond Head Office territory to Charlotte Branch territory: 411 ^ Alanance Anson 'Chatham Davidson Davie Fors:-th Guilford .I.Re Montgonery koore Randolph Richmond Rockingham Stokes Surry Yadkin Nov. 16, 191:2 City of Newport, Jackson County, Arkansas, transferred from Head Office Zone to Little Rock Zone. Jan. 2, 1943 Brewster County, Texas, transferred from San Antonio Zone to El Paso Zone. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 • 1 11'D IN FILES SECTION; - ,./ MAY 4 - 1940 BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE 4."•0 FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM +4L.ti ° * O R-643 WAS ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE 4. tot, TO THE BOARD cal.%* April 26, 1940 •Lt'{ , * 14 4t* Dear Sir: At the conference held in Washington on March 19, 1940, the Conference of Presidents approved in principle the proposal of the Standing Committee on Collections that the American Bankers Association bank numbering system be revised, and requested the Chairman of the Conference to appoint a committee of three members of the Conference to review, with power to approve in behalf of the Conference, such plan for the revision of the numbering system as may be recommended by the Standing Committee on Collections. If a revision of the American Bankers Association bank numbering system is adopted that involves the printing on checks of numbers indicating the Federal Reserve Bank or branch territory in which a bank is located, subsequent changes in Federal Reserve branch territorial lines will cause considerable confusion in sorting and routing checks. It will be appreciated, therefore, if you will discuss this matter with the Directors of your Bank at the first convenient opportunity and advise the Board whether the Bank feels that any changes should be made in branch territorial lines in your district before a change, if any, is made in the American Bankers Association bank numbering system. Very truly yours, L. P. Bethea, Assistant Secreta7y. TO THE PRESIDENTS OF ALL FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS EXCEPT BOSTON, PHILADFTPHIA, AND RICHMOND http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4110•••••• • , REC'D IN FILES SECTION MAY 1 - 1940 , A i_ „ apP. 2 1940 Hui Leach, President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richnonds Richmond, Virginia Dear Mr. Leach: >1, There is enclosed a copy of a letter dated April 26, 1940, which was seat to all Federal Reserve banks except Boston, Philadelphia and Richmond, regarding possible changes in Federal Reserve branch territorial lines. It will be appreciated if you will discuss the subject of this letter with the directors of your bank at the first convenient opportunity and advise the Board vhether the bank feels that any changes should be made in branch territorial lines in your district, other than the proposed changes in the territory of the Charlotte Branch which are now under consideration. Very truly yours, Le hs CLrnent,2, Assistant Secretary. Enclosure FOit FRES E. li.. Mcniew I LSM;jtrs 4 61° 1)11-2,,131 --LL (cL- Requests for Shaft in Boundpries of Federal Reserve Districts which have not been approved by the Federal Rees acertN FILRS SEGRE‘ DEC 1 2 1938'____- February, 1915: •f )2 1_ Formal hearing before Federal Reserve Board Feb. 2, 1,16, e“ r,A/Jest for transfer of States of Nebraska and Wyoming from 10th to 7th Dietrict. (Files do not disclose record of Board action, but Minutes of May 26, 1915 cover action of Board on May 4, 1915, disapproving request.) May, 1915: Formal hearing on application of certain banks in Wisconsin for transfer from 9th to 7th District. Petition dismissed May 24, 1915, without prejudice. Aug. 1916 Rehearing on above matter, banks in Northern Peninsula of Michigan also being allowed to intervene. Oct. 1916 Board ruled that, effec4- ive January 1, 1917, Monroe, Jackson, Clark, Marnthon, Langlade, Oconto and Marinette Counties and all counties (in Wisconsin) in Ninth District east and south thereof, be transferred from 9th to 7th District. April, 1918: Transfer of 17estern half of Iowa" from 7th to 10th District. No request received by Board, but Sioux City, Iowa, Clearing House Association registered protest against such change. April, 1922s Application by six banks for transfer of Knox, Laurel and Whitley Counties, Kentucky, from 4th to 8th District. Matter not formally , submitted to Board by eithlr Federal Reserve Bank in interest. No Board action July, 1923: Correspondence with Mr. J. L. Milligan, with reference to transfer of certain counties in western Missouri from District No. 10 to No. 8. No action by Board. Sept. 1932: Application of certain banks in Oklahoma for transfer of eight counties in Oklahoma from 11th to 10th District, as follows: Atoka Johnson Bryan Nb Curtain Coal Mardhall Choctaw Pushmataha No fornal request submitted to Board by either Federal Reserve bank in interest, hence no action by Board. • ,-/ 1i- f http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _ JL 9 • 1 /,---- June, 1933: - Petition and letters from certain banks in Benton County, Arkansas, for transfer from 9th to 10th District. No apt)lication received from Federal Reserve banks concerned and no action by Board indicated. March, 1935: Letter from Chairman Peyton, of Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, concerning efforts of Hon. Prentiss M. Brown, President of First National Bank of St.Ignace, Michigan, to obtain transfer of a portion of the Northern Peninsula of Michigan from the 9th to 7th District. No application made to Board, but files disclose several letters from other banks opposing the proposal. (In Nay, 1937, the Board had correspondence with Mr. 7eyton concerning the possibility of air mail service which would bring St. Ignace into better communication with the Federal Reserve hank of Minneapolis. No. action 17 Post Office Department is indicated.) Note: There are a nuMber of letters in the files with reference to individual banks, member and nonmember, requesting permission to be transferred to other Districts. These matters usually have been adjusted through the Federal Reserve bank and no Board action is indicated. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis F4ERAL 41IkRVE DISTRICT LINES Record of Changes Authorized by Board District No. 1: • April 1,1916 Fairfield County, Connecticut, transferred to District No. 2. District No, 2: ' July 1, 1915 Twelve northern New Jersey counties transferred from District No. 3, as follows: Bergen Essex. Hudson . April 1, 1916 • Hunterdon V.iddlesex Monmouth Morris Passaic Somerset Sussex Union Warren Fairfield County, Connecticut transferred from District No, 1. District No. q: July 1, 1915 Twelve northern counties of New Jersey transferred to District No. 2 District No. 4: July 1, 1915 Tyler and Wetzel Counties, West Virginia transferred from District No. 5. District No. 5: 41Ik July 1, 1915 District No, ' 6: Two counties of West Virginia transferred to District No, 4. Sixteen parishes in Louisiana transferred from District No. 11, as follows: April 1, 1916 Acadia Allen Avoyelles Beauregard December 12, 1919 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Calcasieu Cameron Evangeline Iberia Jefferson Davis Lafayette Rapides St. Landry St. Martin St. Mary VermiliOn Vernon Parts of Sharkey and Yazoo Counties, Mississippi, which had been made a part of the new county of Humphreys, transferred to District No. 8 -2- -Td'strict No. 7: January 1, 1917 - Twenty-five counties in Wisconsin transferred from District No. 9, as follows Fond du Lac Adams Green Lake Brown Calumet Jackson Juneau Clark Kewaunee Door Langlade Manitowoc Marathon Marinette Marquette Monroe Oconto Outagar4e Portage Shawano Sheboygan Waupaca Waushara Winnebago Wood District No, 8: • December 12, 1919 Parts of Sharkey and Yazoo Counties, Mississippi,(made part of the new county of Humphreys) transferred from District No. 6 : 4111District No. 9 ' January 1, 1917 Twenty-five counties in Wisconsin transferred to District No. 7. District No, 10: July 1, 1915 Twenty-six counties in Oklahoma transferred from District No. 11, as follows: Beckham Caddo Carter Comanche Cotton • April 15, 1926 Custer Garvin Grady Greer Harmon Haskell Hughes Jackson Jefferson Kiowa Latimer • Pittsburg Le Fiore Pontotoc Love Roger Mills Mc Clain Stephens Murray Tillman Washita Bernalillo and Valencia Counties, New Mexico, transferred from District No. U. District No. 11: • July 1, 1915 Twenty-six counties in Oklahoma transferred to District No, 10. • April 1, 1916 Sixteen parishes in Louisiana transferred to District No. 6. April 15, 1926 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Bernalillo and Valencia Counties, New Mexico, transferred to District No. 10. September 6, 1921. 'R. EDDY CONNECTICUT NATIONAL BANKS IN ' . LIAY DISTRICT NO. 2. Referring to telephone conversation, all of Taine, 1:err Hampshire, Vermont, ,o.scachusette, Rhee Island and Connecticut are in District No. 1, Nith the exception of Fairfield county, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, , Connecticut, which in in District No, 2, Federal Reser7o Bank of New York. The following national banks are located in this county and are therefore attached to the Federal Reserve 3an17 of New York: Bethel, Conn, V• Bo thel National 3ank Bridgeport, Conn. V'City National Bank do y'First National ilank Bank --... Danbury, Conn. 'Danbury National --.12 do -, National Bank ..,, ''''';.• - ---Greenwich, Conn, National Bank .Greenwich i',....-•.,.._-, 1,t ,..•_ 1. .First National Bank New Canaan, Conn. Norwalk, Conn. .Fairfield County NB ,---'g Norwalk - Norwalk, Conn. -National Bonk of % Ridgefield, Conn. \ 'First NB &. Trust Co. South Norwalk, Conn. Bank 'City National Stamford, Conn. First-Stamford NB http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis OS 411111 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis '801‘n FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW '(C)R K April 7, 1916. Sirs: Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of the 6th instant )informing me that the Federal Reserve Board has approved the applications of the Fairfield County, Connecti3ut, banks, for the surrender of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, and for stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Respectfully, Federal Reserve Board, :/ashington, D. C. AJL/LES. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis , ) , FED,71 1,I7L4--RVE 1301D ,- ./.....** -1 FILE i f i __..........,....1 iprii 6, 1916. Mr. Pierr6 Jay, Federal Reserve Agent, New Yor- 11. Y. , Dear Sir: hv 3(mra b tho horor to xiforn you thnt the eecioral tmitty anprovind t)lo aripliwAtons of tho fo141NT 't)ankt, for th.) vuirretanr cf 060: in the ie4ezfj30r;orve 3ank of 3ostcn ttni for stook in tho Fodoral loicarve SanR of t!.kat Yorks art1143., ConalootioUt Nfttioisl 3ank `14T.eiT7 ITalu1a1 Bunk ` City Tintional 'lank firati-1,414 -uport :ZatIonal N City flatittnnl 7shbvitry VsAlonal Unk Greonwloh ntiotal Bank, annk of eirot Itttionnl 34ak Pirrit National Unk ‘' Oity Nationa Bank , 141rst HatAtnal iimnk -> BAIlk \fairflolti Count oentrta NtAional Bauk trforii Y4ationa1 San% 3ridvport, 001111* a Arldgeriort. ort :A:mina-ye :A.W .17,711 011 :Anbrir:71 , rwolk. • 17enti Cantv, no , ft le 300 960 160 160 180 7E. a 3o,Nommit, o?NI Ntrulttn ft Litnarord, 14tpoutfully, .' ,ssistant L.,eorotri,ry, 33 1Z0 160 150 72 ;560 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis BANKS IN COUNTY, NC. 1, TO DI3TRI:T NO.2. Bethel National Bank Bethel, Conn. First 3ridr;eport National Bank Bridgeport, Conn. ft City National Bank Connecticut National Bank Danbury National Bank City National Bank I, Danbury, 11 et ft (Ireenwi,:h National Bank Greenwich ft First National Bank row Canaan, 11 Central National Bank Norwalk, Fairfield Co., rational 3ank ft ratioLal Bank of First NP.tional Bank Olt,/ National Bank 3o. Norwalk, " First National Bank Stamford, ft Stamford National Bank fcrd, Stam- I 11 • rr t.c‘, , Lci "Vul 5 11 01 tf 71' \.\\\\\\\: \\ \. , .::....0.00000 0000000 0 •-• ki 1 4 1 , , http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis cf7 b7 • .c o a_Pc2-est; 0 (2a-0 r4i (24_, /Jib ..4 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis '177 0°0 10.701 ' itto3eUrir • 7 9* . ,[ 4 0 11 4 ; -1) f 4 "b14)r (4--L-19 I • -44J 1 IT,....11 iss 7 34(c/c # $• y 'ci http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 3 94/ a-o (Lo •r' 2-44 ( '0 Oy7 4-7-aere o o—ra, l de ? 'a /9/ 7z7 044 • , 1 110e9- --Y' -r1- .4•ei1e4 ;fr 4: .41 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ' • 6 *7 1-1 . / ree--J Li 6-a -L(7, ea a ' /0. er-t-rdi — / 4 e11.' - oe) 21.-‘14-44& 4 7' t r. 40$ ii O l r fr / . C A I 4,62 / ,q*J4 Ar,e—p—s? O /, ) /1 r--7)---r- ‘.--, 1) 1‘ http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis tr,f , , / e http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • 7,k 0 41 4 /4a 19 ;), 7 •1 at-t 77 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 , 11 73° 7330 .' LITCHFIELD V 72.30' HARTFORD TOLLAND 42 ' 4-2' WINDHAM , 1 • IV,DoN m oDa'30 44• NEW HAVfN 30' \ N . l ' • Y -------, ' 1 i t 1 , CONNECTICUT • Note: I ' _ Fairfield County, Conrecdcut, transferred froM the 1st to the 2rd T. P. District effective An il 1, 1916. Tl-is transfer af°ectcd 15 membe banks — all :lational. SCALE -STATUTE MILES 0 s IS /0 tr 4I• 7330. JAN I 1925 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 20 73• . . 72 80 72.' ,Ael. 41, • Copy sent tO V.Le2a http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis January 10, 1917. Federal Hesurye Chicnzo, Ii1inois. Dear 3irs: One set of the appllentions of the 'Asconsin banks for transfer of ntock from tho 1:Anneapo1l5 bank to :,rour bank is transPlitted to you herowith* In forwarding thosa applications in duplicmte to the 3, ard tho Federal Reserve Bank of Ainnespolls roque9te1 thr.t ono sot be forwarded to you and the other to their bik. inasrluch as all applications affectIn7 stcc;:holfln'i However, I"led /7 here, it is desired to keep one set In order that our records rlay be conplotes It is nGte that in several inrtvliccis thoHe br.:nks h7ve mde changes in their surrlus .411C11 will affect their stockhcldina, and it is presumed that you desirc the dulliote applIcation:i in order to stmir,hten out the natter. Very truly :curs, Jecrotary. (ono.) .1c.L.;'141 0 January 10, 1917. Federal '4'eserve 3tnk, ixtflJ1)O1 IS, Jinnonota. jear Referrim. to :ion?' letter of_Januag_21_1917 forwarding : in duplicate applio:Aions for surrender of stock in your bank anJ for allotnent of stock in the Podoml Reserve 3ank of Chicano, notice of the ap9rovv.1 of which vms sent to you yaterda7 7, you are , 1 wivied that the Eloard desires to keep one not in order that its mloras may be conplote. All a:lplications affecting stookholdincs aro filel in this offL;e• it ie noted in the applications thRt sovemi of the barks h' ye male changes in their suraus since their lnet allotment of took„ and shuld file applications to correct their holdincs. One skA cf the applications is th)rifore beim: sent ho the Federal 7:eaerve 3an;: of Chicago in order that they ma,7 tAke thti mittor up with the bana in quf3sti0ni. Very truly yours, cretury. 61, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mallt to Nu* •_.•1 /7/7 MIL41 ,L:it http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis e eq--)Or J5;tiliRrY 9, 1911. ..1r4 C L. lioath„ Aatsml itoborvo ,tpat„ Chiougo, illincio• Danr Ars ttlo honor tc, infrm you thAt thn god9ra1 •irvt!3t,,rd„ lanaor Ltt f JAnuary 6, 117, approltA tho s;;;)piiimticalfi or WTI followIng banlAs in A.soonzin for currwIlar or stock ln Zederal Roaorve Bank of Unp- Wapolio at tho talotczt of &dock in tho .:.'odern1 "olzor7o o!! !Jlio:mos Fimt NntLonal 3ank LioVatlowa aank Citl.no 34nk V,Ational Bank litionnl Bank Yirzt Nctional Unic First 2Aln:11 3ank Firot National 3ank Chilton N;Aional 3unk nr3t. Nrtional Bqnk First N44tIma1 3ank , NationAl Sarli of CorrPxlroial National Bank Flrat NW:onnl :lank 2onsi du Lno NntioAal 3ank CltiRoh4 V;Aionta 3anic nrst 2:atiowA1 !tank AuAree 77 4i) 150 Borlin 31aot Ivor !Palls 3r I Chilton Clintonville A Pore i 7ond (Iu Lho tIP OrsnA l'tnoide 60 38 36 44 16 ,r 31,0 10 67 90 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -.2- Wood Coluity National Bank Citizen° National Bank 1ol1of;f7., National Bank Z.cCartney National Bank eirat National Bank First Nat! nal Bank rational Bank of First rationva Bank tephenson National 3ank ,lorican rational Bank First National Bank First National it first national Bank rational Etanufcturfr.o Batik First National Bank First National Bank !.;itiens National Bank Oconto National Bank City National Bank Con.'lercial National Sank Old Nationz4.1 Bank Penhtigo National Bank First National Bank Firs, National Bank German Nati nal Bank First National Bank First National Bank Ce-r'mn_n American Nati: ,nal Bank Citizens ratPnal Bank First Mtion%1 Bank First National Bank Old National Bank First National Bank National German American Bank First National Bank Grand .a:d.de Green 3a: ti It Kaukauna Janawa , Llanitowoc iiarinette " Wrshdield ' ft lnasha Neenah pl Neilaville New London Wont() " Cshkosh 0 Pcshtigo Princeton idoon ,, Seymour Shawano " i:itivens ..oint Tir,ert-n .. . :aupaca walAsau ti Weyauwega Vory truly yours, Secretary. 120 210 ilk 180 36 18 66 84 120 54 72 60 113 77 36 39 47 44 144 180 ;:40 21 19 75 75 24 45 7;, 76 18 39 300 270 18 . 7 7 7^ • FEDERAL R ESERVE BANK OF MINNEAPOLIS http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis NINTH DISTRICT ,1 / 1,c_< OFFICERS S.S.COOK. cAsHiER THEODORE WOLID,Govr_RNou DI RECTORS W.H.LIGHTNER,DEPUTY JOHN H.RICH,CHAIRmAn ) CMAiRMAN AND FEDERAL RESERVEAGENT AND DEPUTY FEDERAL RESERVE AGENT J C.BASSETT,ABERDEEN,s.oAK. F. R.BIGELOW.sT.PAUL,MINNESOTA E.W.DECKER.HiNnEARous.H.HH. L. BRAN NA, CARGO, N. Da nor. JOHN W. BLACK, HOUGHTON,MICH, F. P. HIXON.LA CROSSE,WISCONSIN N. B.HOLTER,HELENA,HONT. January 2, 1917. Federal Reserve Board, Washington, 1)„ C. Gentlemen:We are sending you under separate cover by registered mail duplicate copies of resolutions of the Wiqconain mombew brulks being tran3ferred from the Ninth to the Seventh district, accompanied by a letter, a copy of dhich is attached hereto. Respectfully, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis copy ANK JanU.Sity 2, 1917. Federal Reserve Board, C. Gentlemen:enclose herewith by re;;.1-......r.;c1 in du.pli=te Di' resolutions adcr-ited b he il copios oards of directors have been transof the. fifty-tic V.13D011iiin member bnnks .Allah ferred from the Ninth the cortifinAtnn istrict to the Lromtli.„ together ;-,Tith +his Reserve Banks or Chica4;io alit itinaeapolis. i;:ie certificates of apqroval have been El IE.:fled by the 'z:ecretary the Federal Reserve .3oard, -1111 you ple.ise forward oaa set cf these resolutions to the ?oderal Reserve DZ1 of ChicaGo, Lind the othof to us? .1. ;tacined hereto is a lit showine the names and ; locationsof the nember ban, the number of shares subscribed 4 icr and the amount of capital stoc- : paid in .by each. Yespoctfulky, 33C: EC •Sncl. Cashier. 41444,4 A-4444t14,1( 6-er it,,,creitt4e • TRAri?.iRRD YRU NATICNAL BANKS IN WISCCNSIN DI....T2ICT NO, 9 TO DISTRICT NO. 7. TO TAIC.E3FFCT JAIllatlY 1, 1917. 111, 0 L 0 -_ Name of Bank First National lank Langlado National Bank Pt Citizens National Bank Appleton Commercial National 3a:k Ps First rational 3ank First National 3ank Berlin 31aok River Falls First National Bank First National Bank Brillion Chilton National 3ank Chilton First National Bank Clintonville First National Bank Dale National Bank of De Pere De Pere Conmorcial National Bank Fond du If First National Bank Fond du Lac National 3ank Citizens National Bank Grsnd Ranids First ::ational 3ank Wood bounty Nntional Bank Citizens National Bank Green Bay Kellogg National Bank McCartney National Bank First National Bank Kaukauna First National 3ank ilianawa ntional Bank of ,lanitowoc :Aanitowoc First National Bank 21t1rinette 3tophonson National Bank American National 3aAk :Larshfield It First National Bank First National Bank Monnsha First National Bank 'Aenah ft rat'l.:3anufacturers Bank First National Bank ;oi1lovil le First iltional Bank London :row Citizens National 3ank Oconto Oconto rational Bank City National Bank Cshkosh Comercial Natirnal Bank ft Old National 3ank Peshtigo Peshtigo Nntional Bark Princeton First National Bank Ripon First l!ational Bank German National Bank First Nati(nal Bank Seymour Ant Igo http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Ca-dtal 100,000 E0,000 150,000 150,000 300,000 75,000 50,000 25,000 50,000 60,000 25,000 50,000 125,000 125,000 200,000 100,000 100,000 100,000 250,000 200,000 200,000 50,000 25,000 100,000 100,000 100,000 50,000 6E,000 80,000 125,000 100,000 50,000 50,000 65,000 60,000 200,000 200,000 300,000 25,000 25,000 100,000 100,000 30,000 612rplus 20,000 25,000 50,000 100,000 100,000 25,000 12,500 7,500 10,000 12,000 3,400 25,000 75,000 25,000 50,000 10,500 50,100 100,000 100,000 50,000 100,000 10,000 5,000 10,000 40,000 100,000 40,000 55,000 20,000 62,500 27,500 10,000 13,500 13,000 12,000 40,000 100,000 100,000 10,000 6,000 25,000 25,000 8,500 City, shawano It 6tevons ?oint $t Tigertoll Waupaca Wausau rt V;oyauwer,;;:t http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Namla of Bank Canital 6urn1us 25,000 50,000 First National Bank 40,000 , Gorman—American Nat 11.3 ni k6,000 20,000 100,000 CitStens National Bank 30,000 10%000 First National Bank 5,000 25,000 First National !lank 15,000 E0,000 Om National 3ank 150,000 350,000 First National Bank Nat'l.. Gorman Anerican 1,52;000 300,000 Br.nk 4,900 Firot rntional 3/1k __5009. _ ••• 7cital.... , 1 c,570, as,a , '2-, / 2, 2/ 700 , /<-11 /111 • • FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF MINNEAPOLIS http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis NINTH DISTRICT OFFICERS THEODORE WOLD,GovERNoR S.S.000 K CASHIER DI RECTORS W.M.L1GHTNER,DEPUTY CHAIRMAN JOHN H. RICH,ClIAIRmAN AND FEDERAL RESERVE AGENT AND DEPUTY FEDERAL RESERVE AGENT E.W.DECKER.m.NNEAPOLIS.M.NN. J.C.BAS S ETT,AS ERO CON,S.IDA K. L.B.HA N NA,FARGO, N. DAKOTA F. R.BIGELOW,ST, PAU1_,NI N14 ESOTA JOHN W. BLACK, HOU GHTON,MICH. F. P. HIXON,LA CROSSE,VVISCONSIN NB.HOLTER,He LENA,M0 NT. January 2, 1917. Federal Reserve Board, Washington,D. C. Gentlemen:We enclose herewith by registered mail copies in duplicate of resolutions adopted by the boards of directors of the fifty-two Wisconsin member banks which have been trsnsferred from the Ninth District to the Seventh, together with the certificates of the Federal Reserve Agents of the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago and Minneapolis. When the certificates of arproval have been signed by the Secretary of the Federal Reserve Board, will you please forward one set of these resolutions to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, and the other to us? Attached hereto is a list showing the names and location3of the member banks, the number of shares subscribed for and the amount of capital stock paid in by each. Respectfully, SSC:IC Encl. • WISCONSIN BANKS TRANSFERRED FROM THE NINTH TO THE SEVENTH DISTRICT. As of January Name of Bank Location 1,1917, No. Shares Capital Paid In First National Antigo 72 43600. Laniglade National Antigo 45 2250. Citizens National Appleton 120 6000. Conmercial National Appleton 150 7500. First National Appletcn 240 12000. First National Berlin 60 3000. First National Biadk River Falls 38 1900. First National Brillion 20 1000. Chilton National Chilton 36 1000. First National Clintonville 44 2200. First National Dale 18 900. Nat. Banlc of De Pere De Pere 45 2250, Commercial National Fond du Lac 120 6000. 21-l'at Nat ional Fond du Lac 90 4500. 2ond da Lac National Fond du Lac 150 7500, Citizens Grand Rapids 67 3350. First National Grand Rapids 90 4500, Wood Count; National Grand Rapids 120 6000. Citizens National Green Bay 210 10500. Kellogg National Green Bay 150 7500. McCartney National Green Bay 180 9000. First National Kaukauna 36 1000. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis National Wisconsin Batiks Transferred from the Ninth to the jeventh District. As ofJan. 1,1917. Fi-st National Ma.na,Na 18 900. Nat. Ban: of L:anito -loc Manito3oc 66 3300. First National Marinette 84 4200. Stephenson National Marinette 120 6000. American National Marshfield 54 2700. First National Marshfield 72 3600. First Nat ional Menasha 60 3000. First National Neenah 113 5650. Nat. Manufacturers Neenah 77 3850. First Nation, 1 Neilsville 36 1800. First Hat i onal New London C itize ns N at i°nal Oconto National 1950. 39 Oconto 47 2350. Oconto 44 2200. C it y Nati onal Oshkosh 144 7200. Commercial National Os:..koah 180 9000. Nat ional Oshkosh 240 12000. Old Peshtigo National PeshtiE;o 21 1050. First National Princeton 19 950. I'irst national Ripon 75 3750. Germ44 National Ripon 75 3755. First Nat iolaal Seymour 24 1200. First National Shawano 45 2250. Ger. Am. National Shawano 39 1950. Citizens National Stevens Point 72 3600. First National Steve ns Po int 78 3900. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • • -3from the Ninth to the Wisconsin Banks Transferred Seventh District. As ofJau.1,1917. Tigerton 18 900. 7aupaca 39 1950. Wausau 300 15000. First National Wausau 270 13500. Nat.Ger. Am. Bank Weyauuega 18 4588 900. First National First National Old National http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 229400. so• 3I" ' 87' 88' 47' 47 . WISCONSIN Douai° SCALE •STATUTE MILES ASHLAND 0 10 20 30 SO 4-0 73 0 , /t4s WASHBURN SAWYER 4 PRICE FOREST Zo ONEIDA POLK BARRON MARINETTE RUSK LINCOLN ST CROIX DUNN CHIPPEWA OCONTO MARATHON CLARK 4 PIERCE EAU LANGLADE TAYLOR I/ 4 ISMWANO I / CLAIRE / . / PEPIN BUFFALO WOOD , PORTAGE WAUPACA OUTA6AMIE / iii I Lu JACKSON Lk, / MONROE LA CROSSE JUNEAU ADAMS WAUSHARA ,0 WINNEBAGO 0 ,V AlAl?Ql/E77E PO7DULj 1-- SHEBOY6A VERNON SAUK COLUMBIA DODGE RICHLAND CRAWFORD DANE JEFFERSON WAUKESHA 43 LA FAYETTE GREEN "*. WAL WORTH RAC/NE ROCK —IKENOSHA Note: 4.r . 9/ . JAN. 1. 1925 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The portion in red (25 c unties) transfe red from, , the 9th 14o the 7th F. H. District ef..'ective Jan. 1 1917, fljis transfer aff cted 52 rnericer \nks — all Nati nal. so' es' es' 2' 67 • 837 STATEMENT OR THE ?RESS. October 13, 1916) The Federal Reserve Board today, acting upon the appeal of certain -Tisoonsin bankers, voted to transfer the territory included in the counties of Monroe, Jackson, Clark, Marathon, Langlade, Oconto and Marinette, of 7Tisconsin, and all other counties in the same State now in the Minneapolis District east and south thereof, from the Minneapolis to the Chicago District. No change as to northern Michigan. The transfer was made effective as of January 1, 1917. Counties transferred. to District No. 7 from 9. if: 2. / 0 Adams 67 je Fond du Lac Brown v ,Z Green Lake Calumet / Jackson Clark so Juneau Door & Kewaunee Ashland Barron Bayfield Buffalo Burnett http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Chippewa Douglas Dunn Eau Claire Florence e' Sheboygan c Monroe Langlade .er Waupaca Oconto / Manitowoc 4 Outiagamie e Waushara , . Marathon (Winnebaco t Portage Marinette ..,--Wood. o Marquette • Shawano COTJNTI.$ renainir.Kin District No. '9. St. Croix Pepin Forest 3awyer Pierce Iron Taylor Polk La Crosse Trempealeau Price Lincoln Vilas Rusk Oneida Washburn 4.-, tto \r"02 „4.-/ , e 11. €44_, T. , (./ 1.• C t•.1,4.(44' ot 76,4z,aric,„ Ai --tt -6. 1 ,t2,1 ;14b aid J ryt„e( d,t http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ,et 14,‘.44-1/./ • 7/, ,-A-€4A44:‘-. aue4.47,_ -p , t e ;(;104, ;/r141€ 1: Z erA" li -a-e--n-e-C.,• CO .64:6. ea 6.; 4 -21c4. es/Letzdrit,i_ http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 te e -we " . : ‘,4,,tot,ett," 1 he:77 : 4 6: tt.C.1-44, t sc-2 a ‘0 e l 1 ief 4 /24400.-eAs.0 / els 1 1 . 7, id, • cef-x,z----a_, 6 -?4,4„;,„/ „ f I /1 : • http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 41.fr1") tst,„ -177 1/ ,/ iff / /7/, 1/ 406x, Ait-efrode4e7 /1 / 144,vx--i • S106 a iff, 7/, %Aird,-A/ /, 0 A-4„.„ Lrt#1 1," ., h4t / / , eiievx sat„- 1142e, Ater444e,Ate=af. ,114,17Q_Z /1 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis e9nry ale°6 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 3 h. cc EBSTER CLA/BORNE UN/ON MOREHOUSE Q3 LMCOL OUACHITA LOUISIANA MAD/SON JACKSON SCALE.STATUTE MILES C.ALDWE1L RED RIVER TENSAS 32* LA SALLE SABINE JGRANT TJote: RAPiots The portion in red (16 parishes) transferred from the 11th to the 6th P. District effective April 1, 1916. This trc„nsfer affected 16 member banks — all Ns ti WASHINGTON E. BATON ROUG LIVINGSTON %/Err 1/4110J0. 30• IBERIA 33* JAN. I. 1925 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis DAVIS 9• 91• • EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS WILLIAM G. MCADOO SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY CHAIRMAN JOHN SKELTON WILLIAMS COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY CHARLES S. HAM LIN. GOVERNOR FREDERIC A. DELANO. VICE GOVERNOR PAUL M. WARBURG W. P. G. HARDING ADOLPH C. MILLER H. PARKER WILLIS. SECRETARY SHERMAN ALLEN, Ass's% SECRETARY FEDERAL REEPNIVE BOARD ADDRESS REPLY TO WASHINGTON kitmtifr I it ' ..ivN441 FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD 558trA A i My dear Sir: On February 25 the Federal Reserve Board, acting upon the petition of certain banks in Louisiana to be transferred fron the eleventh Federal reserve diEltrict (Dallas) to the sixth Federal reserve district (Atlanta), adopted the following resolution: "RESOLVED, That ail of Louisiana north of the parishes of Vernon, 11:7 !1_,nd Avoyelle_s_Xemain in the Eleventh Federal Reserve District, tnd that the remaining part of the State of Louiiana now in the Eleventh District be transferred to the Sixth Federal Reserve District, and the banks therein allotted to the New Orleans Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta." I have the honor to inform you that your institution is one of those thus transferred, and that the matter of effecting this transfer has been taken up tith the two Federal reserve banks affected, -which will advise http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis you fully concerning the steps to be taken. Respectfully, Secretary. NI ORI2itS3 DAL 2TT 3131101. :1?;:l 3/2111; • Alabama ,/ Pirot Th /anal Bank • Ilnk of ,lobilo irrational Bankinc ,%stsno ,iiatio1162-4,tter-Bank 1-1 , 411sms* 60*Fri/a A ;DUiaiana , • Louisiana National Beak q14:1 0-- L..)• % Baton ?knee Cornorcial :Tat:tonal 3ank llega Orloano Hibornia attora1 :lank Km; Orlcana 1Thw Orloans 7.-Tatlaa1.3ank ITua Orloana ilhancy4m1tra1 National Bank :;uw Orleano.' Uissivoi0A vFirat rational Bank 3oltni First National 3alik Gulfport 1140 National lank 0 Jackson (;apik. National Ela:lk 11 Jackson v Jackson-Otate National 101k • Paseacoula National Bank Jaoimon :Abaci ?ant t- First Tat1onai Bank Laurel • Piret National Bank LAredian http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • 71_31A:191;21t(ec-nt"'.) 4 1 Citizens Ilational 3ank Yirst ationa1 3ank Canton Firat National 3ank ?hiladolhia girst National &Ink Pattiesburg Pint I;ational aank Lur13orton r . 71rJt .1:ationa1 3ank ."4:Comb City First :;ational 3ank 3reokhaven, ;First Lational 3ank Vicksbura , Citizens tat- 014 3111: , Vicksburg y http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ,Jcirciztnto Natierial .3ank ViekablIrc LIST OF BANKS IN LOUISIANA TRAN.;FERIT:D FROU DIliTRICT NO.11, / TO DISTRICT NO. 6. (NEW ORLANS BRANCH) Ai 6 :"..!;.:.':'.e.'t.,,.6kr, Abbeville First National Bank First National Bank Alexandria First Natiorill Bank Jeanerette banks voting First National Bank "Yes" Calcasieu National Bank / t" Lafayette I Lake Charles First National Bank Peoples National Bank J New Iberia State National Bank Opelousas National Bank Planters National Bank Opelousas It First National Bank Banks voting "No" http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ofer. Ville Platte First National Bank of Arcadia Parish at Crowley First National Bank De Ridder First National Bank infliCe First National Bank Lor-an City Now Iberia National Bank New Iberia , r • --</„..<„,„-• 1 d3T NO.11, LI3T OF BAN:.:i IN .1,0III3I1IT.A KC:NON . TO 7;13.T.71.10T NO. 6. (117;:i! /First National Bank Abbeville "First National Bank Alexandria I"First Natiofal Bank Jeanerette ' i First National Bank banks vot ing "Yes" I--Calcasieu National Bank 2irs t / 1 3tate National 3ank vOpelous. National Bank Planters National Bank First National Bank 3a.nks voting "No" Lafayette Lake Charles yVirst IlLtional Bank of Arcadia Parish at V First National Bank d, Firt National Bank. ft ft t ona1 3:111k Peoples National Bank http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - New Iberia tf fl Opr3lousas ft Ville Platte Crowley De Rilier unice V First National Bank iiori:an City "New Iberia National Bank New Iberia < e, -- 1/ 3 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis S r " et iirdipZergr" LOUISIANA . ( MOREHOusE q UNION • I CLAIBORNE ) .„,/ r....•L.._..,.. . „ v ;.. .--- • co • 0 LA. f;' BOSSIER* , .‘14N . ... ., r / ..-". • 1 LN- v• ;i 1 . .. ..------fj LINCOLNI.• 1........../ i ,•-•'' L..% ( I ! I i'? / 'WEBSTER' ,•2) L. ! — : OUACHITA jRICHLAND ( CADDO .-1...., c• _is !. 7 — k•......._. l . / ../ .1 MADISON BIENVILLE ! JACKSON \'• V / •••• ' I--- -....;--,-, t....-• .i rt.. • ..-•-. <......-..."• . 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WASHINGTON I. ) EAST : „ t..;__ ..,..) /1 FELICIANA.i HES1 L ENA I. ) ; i : ACADIA CAMERON ! •2' . ......•••*"./ . .1 7. ;POINTE / j • : COUPEE)A--- EAST . ------•- . S • I I i I f I BATONv1 i• . sfr-TICICIMANY ROUGE i . ,NEST,., .) : , r ) .I. ST. LANDRY ‘-: ) ".._..._•_.•.„ i WEST 1 ‘. '-\\FELiCIANA) .._......i-..-.....,., -"\ )( X VERMILION . • \ . •-•-• / •...4 P • I.•-/* N..„.........„. ----.. .1-.fsT. JAM ES >t , Y 4^ i ,.4., IBERIA ) ..•' \ // et, ASSUMPTION irj— . . i / . :. '-•"`"..N 1, . , 7Lc• a, C.k o ;.•• 0 - - . ^..i r.,Z1 . •-• 4 TERREBONNE / Lifie,de, Ar '. .• BERNARD /44.-1( .• .5, \ 1, 1 .(s . 3 r" ) . \ .*, 0), '. HARLEg.-1• a/c 1 4 c%5; ''\ /:-.---3 t "'N 0 ST. MA , ...\./ /s et L. 1 Ot, ° •t. 4 • s /4, /2,3 t . 1 evA.,ot 7u \ 116 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 7JTTT /, A TRAN5F1.R OF FIRST NAT:IONAL Rida OF NARA VISA, N.1€X. Froiti DISTRICT NO. 11 to DISTRICT NO. 10. / http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis /2 741 f‘ei http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis TRANSFER OF COUNTIES IN WEST VIRGINIA From DISTRICT NO. 5 to DISTRICT NO. 4. Name of bank First National First National 'armors 7: Producers national First National Peoples National http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Location :addleLol ,rae :New Martinsville Siatersville Oistersville Oistersville *ital and Surplus 30,500 75,000 136,000 165,000 115,000 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis !ikv.1.611A‘10srif... • REC'D IN FILES SECTION AUG I 2 1938 -0 BEFORE http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD. IMO IN TTTE MATTER CF TIT PETITION CF BANKERS IN NEBRASKA AND wYmrlyn ASYINC T7AT T"E TERRITCRY CMPRISING TITE SAID STATES BE TAT CUT CF FEDERAL RE— SERVE DISTRICT NUVBEr TEN AND BE ANNEXED TO FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN. Washington, n. C. February 3, 1915. xxxxx 4 - Reported by Rexford L. Holmes Shorthand Reporter, 322 Southern Building, Washington, D. C. - :„IoLticmon, I 2up ,oce the Tho Govornor of tho potitionors, being the moving party., will HAT° riTht to cifon If them is no objection to ne.t course of - roce,lure, and close. we '6111 call on no counsel for the potitioner. nr. j:runcis and .yominc;: , Brogan, Ot- uncel for the tates of ;ebracka e have, I understand, an hour on each side? `ho Govornor of the I believe that is the limit we usually fix. Drogan: ;Aid we may divido that into opening end clos- lug? The 3-ovornor of the Board: G. Millort Yos. should not object if you abbreviated tho time limit. iN(.2 BY 111., FR;IIIC IS A.,BROGAN, OF COUNSEL FOR NEBRASKA AND WYOMING. Iontlomon of the Board: I appear for Judge Tellugh, who proparod the briof for the petitioners. nis is the petition. of substantially 1- 1 the member ban . or Nebraska and ''yoming 1 s to be transferred from the Kansas district to the Chicgo district. It . ;at! porhaps,a little unfortumte that practically : all tho information that was furnished with any dor7re° of earnest : nos to the Organization Committee on the hearings was on behalf 'of cities which wore cooldng the locution of the regional banhs, afld it is especially unfortumto in this instance that at the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis hearings in the '::est this part of the country that I now represent, had two candidates for re7iona1 bans, Omaha and Lincoln, and naturally much of the effort that was put forth to present facts and statements and opinions before the Committee was confined to a showing as to the claims of those two cities. I have no doubt the Committee itself sought and obtained information as to the needs of this territory, independent of the ambition of one or two of those cities, but on behalf of the banks themselves there was no earnest committee procuring and furnishing information and presenting pressing reasons as to where this territory ought to go, after the decision was made that there should be a bank at Xansas City, lanneapolis and at Chicago. 2ose are the three banks that might have been concerned in this territory. I think it is perhaps appropriate to call your attention to the difficulties which the Committee itself found with this territory in the explanatory statement made by the Committee on April 10. In a letter addressed to the enate of the United States, I find at page 369 their discussion of the Zansas City district, and the reasons for locating the bank' at j.ancas City, and I want to say that with that we have now no dispute whatever. After disposing of the claims of Omaha and Lincoln and Denver, the Committee says: V_ http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Now just what it was, what wore thee ircumstances, and what were the grounds on which that vms deemed inadvisable, of course the Committee did not have time in that brief statemant to explain fully, nor have they been explained, anl we are somewhat at a loss except as explanations may suggest themselve$ in the argument here. It is suggested hero, -- I do not know whether that was intended as the reason they include Nebraska and "iyoming in the .12:ansas City district rather than in the Chicago district, -- that after the district had been outlined a as it was formed it was found on'poll of all the banks located in that district that the majority preferred :-ansas City over any other location, that is, over Omaha or Denver, Now, of course it would be natural that a majority cyl the banks, if we include all of Kansas, Oklahoma, and part of :issouri, when put against the comparatively few banks in. Iowa and Nebraska, would decide in favor of 17.ansas City as the location, and that may be used as an argument for that location. ralt on the other han(*kit may well be contended that, although fewer in number, still, as representing a large and importnt area covering the two States in question, the interests of the bans of Nebraska and '::yoming be given most careful consideration, although they do not aggregate a large percentage perhaps of the entire number of banks whose votes were obtained for this large area; because,in the first place, the banks of Kansas and Oklahoma and the other -portions have not expressed themselves as to whether 1yoming and Nebraska should http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis be included in that district, and have had no opportunity of doinr;' so, and moreover would have no right to determine that. If that argumont should be given any force whatever, it would be sufficient to justify any political gerrymmder where the district is made up for the express purpose of securing votes, • or favoring any action desired. o I think we are justified in not considering that as a real argument us to the que[tion whether 4*eming and Nebraska should belong to this district, leaving it rather to the banks of that district themselves to decide the question. Now i wish to invite your attention to that part of the United 3tates which lies between the Mississippi and the Great Lakes on the east and the 2.ocky Mountains on the west. Of course, as you know, It is the great granary of the country, and I am dealing now only with that part lying north of Texas, between Texas and Canada. It is cut up arbitrarily into state linos, of course, but natural trade conditions have divided it into three great zones, or trade routes. :hey converge at Chicago, hut west of Chicago they divide themselves naturally and in the regular course of business into three groat trade routes, -- one through the gaeway of Minneapolis westward, and having as tributary territmr:linnesota, North and south Dakota, and Montana, and to a large extent Washington on the Pacific coast. There is another one on the south, passing through the gateway of Kansas City, and having as tributary territograneas, Oklahoma, parts of Colorado, New Mexico, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and runninf: throuji to Ari4ona %11 tral route incluaes Neb- a E2.tcway, ,73ginf.) at Ozah'--.L. Thee ara not oniy tr.z.de routc and ryominz. oontinental tr Utah :114 the CoaSt. 7E den- ic, iut theli are 2.10n ur i4A)n, in th t tcritory, Ja1,1 trade th •t ori!z;inAt rouu coniuctin for transfor ;lo hav th,Ar bUsinacie and havin.., three iir ditlnot, independent and ut4r-Lrate from It iu r.robbly a little difficult for one not each other. vi3itin:: or livin ly.:142k and forth in those there or States tt. r:11,7,0 the extent to -Thies lines, without intrminaling. excLtions to thi4; ther crofine thi- mni quftritity Awl run alon6 parallel Th7e are vriationai there are Are 4orrdie , of' traffic that but the fact reminll that the isrcA bulk eaut Alen we deml with the 1)roducts of that 1.1:ortu into that region, and goel wet when wn deal A.th thc region. Tnor io on: other fcn.turc of that region that I A.sh briefly to refer to. Probably there re but few partz of the there 1.6 an world aa compared with Nebraska alone in which ive to the grev.t a volume of export and import trade relat and I miL;ht tr:_lotion'a :JAI in Nebr3ka, th t becaue Nebraska as weli incluJe Tyoming in thia Ittement, more and WyomiLL: aro exclusively ':,gricultur..l and pastoral, 1:art .of the United alb in reference to Nebruka. th= any other .croduot,; of the States. Nebraska proluoo nothip except the soil; the great i.e.alth, arountin in oxorts to hundredo of 501. millions of dollars each year, comes from the Nebrv.ska. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis produces nothing else for its consumption except from the soil; everything of a manufactured article that is consumed, — Substantially everything, -it Imports. r2he statistics wil l show very handsome manufactsrin g products at Omaha, but out side of one smelter which hap pens to be located there—bec ause it seeks a lower level, I am told, there is no ore produced in ilebraska outside of tht. The manuractured pro ducts are simply those which consis t in a partial preparation of the agricultural product for exportation elsewhere. For instance, the packing 11011S02 in South Omaha simrly turn the live stock and hogs into met, but not for consumption into Nebraska, but for trans-shipmen east; and that is true of everything. Now it is obvious that if con ditions, that is, if the restrictions of the law upon which these regions were formed, had permitted them, the logica l and natural solution of the situation, would have been the creation of three distri cts corresponding to those three zones that I have des cribed, With Omaha as the center for one , rinneapolis for ano ther, and :Kansas City ±or the third. A little study of the cla ims, how, ever, of these three cities will make it apparent at once that when it was -- that oven when it was decided to make twelve districts insto d of eight, it was impossible for all three to Of them/have a bank, because there is notiributary to them. the banJ7ing territory that wou ld justify it, and we concede I live in Omaha, and I am willinr7 to concede fre ely -- that because or the greater pre ponderence or Kansas Cit y and http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Linneapolis, if there are to be but two banks in this region that 1 have described, those two cities .:fc,re entitled to them, and the controversy as to whether Omaha should Ilve a bank is entirely out of this matter, and it must be, because there is no room for a bank in Omaha, with the conditions prescribed by law, when there is a bank in Minneapolis and 1::ansas City, so we come simply to the question of what ought to be done with Nebraska and Jyoming as territory tributary to some other bank. Now I think I am stating a mere truism, thtA is assumed throughout this entire discussion, that bank exchanges exist only because of trade. If . 1raska consumed ;11 it produced, , j and produced all it consumed, I can imagine no reason for bank exchanges anywhere outside of the 'tate. trade between They It is because of tates and countries that bank exchanges exist. are concomitant; they follow the existence of trade rolu,tions; and I think this is true as to bank exchanges tor the greater volume, for it greatly predominates over others. There are no ban exchanges bet.7:een communities that have only occasioinl Trade transactions. For instance, there is some traffic b6twoon southeastnrn Zansas and Omaha, 'because of pro_ ducts that are not produced in Nebraska, but there are no bank exchanges bet7,een southeastern Kansas and Omaha business men In that part of Kansas. They may have transactions with mer- chants in Omaha, but the baniTs located there would. not think of keeping an account in Omaha'. Par that reason they would naturally observe the course of business whore tho volume of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis s2p, -- 1144a,A444144404 - tmdc had mi:..turally led the -brit: (=h ang°. Uovir there is some minor dispute nerP ac to thc extent to Alich 3obraWrai ttrtIffic is east and ont . It is point d. out in the argumont that there is some chi pmnt of cattle Trom the southern parc o± ieb.rtolta into ansas C14 and Into 6:7 Jooeph iV1114Th lies botwoon these two cities on the Amseuri Aver; it 10 t120 pointed. out somewIlere that there is actually conci(lortne tralalc In milk and eF713 from Nebras ka and Zans to ;;e1rIver; and somo other matTcre of that kind may be pointed out; but the Xct rominc that the great preponder ating volume of the traff1 0 lie diroctly ut and'77est. - caue not o only is that country cut up Into theKe zonce that I have described, 7Tith all its traftic runn1m7 east and w0ct, but Nebr aska in likewise cut up into three parcliol linos by thrce p;rm t trncrortation syctmc th handle practiccalY its traffic). In the cantor in the 'Union Pacitle • runran, Trent Omaha and ' Cheyenne, nd connecting with Ohicapm by moans of trarno arr anrmmonts troua!.1. t- fe or : throe of the trunr lino bot,7oen Chp ago and :matin g rIn0 nat uraly turniohlir traffic to all of 1; cm. Uorth of thwl the country In ocupied by the ellicago and Nor twestern, vnieh ontrn atOmah, and Axe north or.Omaha at a junction, and 7oos through Wyoming, and handlo products from tilrourh northern Noz;racka 21(i Chico ooath of that. This furnishes the only mdification or the brwA statement I have made. outh thA; in to TAIrlington 2ystom onterirr at (Imaha, and also at a junction couth of (4Tiah, taid. cross the entire sti,te to to* V http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis — Denver, with numerous branch lines, ‘10 a connection to St. Joseph on tne river, and through St. Joseph to l'ansas City. Now t vt ono line of tne Burlington MP WM it has two or throe lines one line runs througb. zaon,1: the state line. In fact it is only a few miles from the :rAInsas line, ana serves the towns in the southern tier of counties, and there is come traffic, I concede, between that one part el_ 11oraska u1. Zansus City. It divides that traffic with Omaha, but the tact remains that a large part even of that minor tr ffic goes through St. Joseph, and on east, instead el' to 2 -anss City, -- probably divides in some respects. 7e11, then, the question is, how ettn the facilities which those banks wore intended to furnish the local bLlakr..1 best be furnished tho bunr.s in tills tcrritory? I want to cell attention here to the two maps that were presented on behalf of :ansas City and 1!..Inneapolis in the hearing before the Com -ittec. The if:ansn.s Citr banh map is found on pa7c l7b of that report, and the L'Inneacolis map is found on page 2315 (produces maps bcforc tno board). significant on this question. The:, are rather The TAnneapolic claim, you will .ce, recognizes :he existrJnco of this zone, -- et one of the three zones -- that I have descritoa. It ma'es its claim for a district with Minneapolis as 'Cie reserve centr near the east, running clear across to the Pacific. Kansas City mW7es its claim for a district somewhat simil:r to the one allotted to it, hut it runs it along the Eime general theory, although it. does not ..1a,To it as elongated as the other. It must be re- membered that both of t7lose maps -- both or these claims http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - .410•11.. , were presented at a time when it was not known whether the Or• i ganization Committee would form eight districts oe twelve districts, or some intermediate number, and both or these claims were on the theory that there might be only eight banks, and , that each might be entitled to o- le or the eight, and naturally • they claimed a larger territory then they would have claimed had they ',mown that teelve ban's would be established. claims clear across to the iacific, including 77inneapclis ashington. think the Committee cut that down when they decided to form twelve banks. -ithough the district allotted to them ;lac some- thing like five and one-half million dollars cepital of its Us, yet it would have had over nine million dollers capital if it had got what it claimed, -- IAA that is a minor concideration. They TaPeparod this map, preseing their claim for one of the eight banks, and also included this information evidently from the benr accounts in the territory carried in Zansas City banks. They nave aide up tnis descri tioa of the relation of the county to Xansas City, and have dotted the territory that :they claim with the location of baeks that carried on business with Kansas City banes. You will soe while 'they absorb all the banking business of Kansas City, and de considerable in western Missouri, and practically dominate in Oklahoma, and roach into Texas, New :fexico and Colorado, they =le claim to do business with a small portion of southeastern liebraska, and make no claim as to yoming, and do not include yoming in the circle of the . ; proposed district when they were claiming to be one e -J7 the eight clistricts, showing as to more than five-eighths ef Nebraska http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _ there was absolutely no 1)ankiw7 business carried on with Kansas City at the time this claim was prepared. In the discussion also in the brief presented by Yansas City, it was intimated, while they w re claiming to be one of the eight banks, that if the Committee should think wioc to locate Omaha in some other district, -- it could not bo assumed. that Omaha would have the ban, but that Omaha should be located either with hinnoapolis or Chicago. Eansas Then the applicants for City conceded they would only claim the southern half' of Nebraska, but even that would incluae a great deal of this territory in which they had at thnt time no ban7 ,71n business whatever. Now there wau no similar map prepared for Chicago, but from figures we submit here it is evident if you show the relation of Chicago to the territory west of it in the same manner that the atnsas City relation is shown by these dotted maps, you will find Iowa and Nebraska Lind considerable of 7:/oming dotted over with local banks that carry accolants in Chicag o and carry on regular business there, and did so all through. Now I do not need, I think, to tae uj with counsel here a discussion of the min()r questions arling in controversy as to whether trade in Nebraska flows east and west; thai is so well known and so well establis7ted at one could almost take It for granted, -- as we say in court that the court would take judicial notice of it, -- but porhans we do not need to do that, because on page 370 of the report made by the Organization Corn- http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis mitLee, in discussing this very situat ion, and the reasons why Yansas CM should have the ban and Denver should not, they say, the great preponderance in the mov ement of trade in Distill liumber on is to the east. Of course , they are merely stating a condition known to everyone famili ur with trade conditions in 'Wu) Uni'Ged States, and connected by the se lines of railroads. • Counsel presents here an extract of the IcAimony given in Iineoln, when Iineoln was -lying proof in supliort of this claim for the banx, that trade will flo w north and south when the canal is opened, that the preducto of Nebraska will u o 7 south to go through th t canal. I do not know where they would go, nor what they would do with them. The y ;:re shipped into the eastern i,art of the United ?tatcs and to Europe, and no place else is there a demand for the pro ducts of 2rebrc.ska except in tho gm:A centers, w".ere food stu ffs ar: not produced to the same extent to .111.ch they are consumed. It has been a dream of that part of the country for some time that north and south traffic could be developed in some forced way. :veryo familiar with conditions there wil l recognize tbat attemp ts have boon made to organize north and oouth railroads. 7Xfort s for developing barge traffic on the A.speuri have been develo ped, but as a matter o, fact any lun y efforts of that kin, ' ays alw havu been and will be ineffectual, because trade _loves towards causes that are greater and indepe ndent of any artificial conditions, especially a trade of thls kind where the produc t is almost wholly exported and the consumption is almost wholly imported. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis , flow wehave presented some figures hero; I ':1sh to refer to them briefly, because couns-ol makes the point that they ought not to be considered; but they merely illustThte the proposition that I have been T)resenting, and which is established from so many independent sources. In the preparation cf this brief a compilation was made from the cards carried, by the banks of Nebraska and Tyomin,7 in the Bankers' Encyclopedia, a recognized authority published, in Now York City, and the computation made up is as follows: That of the 220 national banks of Nebraska 136 list a corrospendent at Cl.icego, 194 a correspondent at New York, 199 a corrospondent at Omaha, 39 at TAncoln, 36 at 3Toux City, 17 at St. Joseph, niMIOUTi, 11 at St. Louis, and 10 at ransas City. Now of the 32 national banks in 7Jyoming, 20 list a corrospendent at Chicago, 01 at Omaha, 29 at New York, and 1 in '.s.lnsa.s City. It is conceded however, that there is some otho:r. lyusiness with the banks. They may carry accounts for the purposes of collect- ion, but t7:iese are the listed advertived bankt:Ig relations as pointed out here, and wo thin it is significant as showing that the banks throughout those two ,tf:',.tes understand and 'elie and oxpeci they will be called upon to f-rLish exchange and banking facilities directly east of them, because of the flaw of trade, and will very seldom be called on; only a few of them in one pert of the territory will be called on -- to fl,.rnish facilities in Kansas City which is Tqtside entirely of the zone. There is also a comilation of a laro numlr of the banks, but not all of them in Nebraska, made (lurinp7 the papt year, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis showing the number of items TimIdled in the course of the business. The volume is very large east, and almost none north and south. Counsel complains of them that it admits a smal l pert of Thshington. Jud7e Goodrich: Practic:tlly all. Mr. Brogan (continuing): Practicall7 '1.1 of that ti.r of counties I have described ashavinf): a ra!lroad whic h connects with St. Joseph and through there with KanDs uity . Jud7a Goodrich: Three :railroads. !rogan (continuing .): railroads. Oh, yes; there are two other One is the Misouri Pacific, which has a few linen in southeastern 7ebracka in this territory that could be considered. as common; it is about one-sixth of Nebraska , and because it is seekin7 north and co-t t:L.ffic. It is a well known fact that the statements furnished by the Missouri Pacific to the Railroad ComA.ssio in 7ebraska show that its revenue from that part of its line does not pay operatin 7 expenses alone, to say nothing of returns, and the same is true of any line that attempts to 7o countr to the natural flow of this trade. The north and south line, no entire trade of that country rest of the lassouri or west of a line half way between Miss ouri and Mississippi, will 7et no traffic, or not enou gh to pay opereting expenses, but assuming that this statement as to the items handled in and out of the banks does not include that po. ?tion, tInt strip of counties alonn the ) south of Nebraska, yet it shows that as to all the rst of this territory there http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis is practically no business whatever transacted with Zansas City, and all the business comes east or goes west. New there is one other proposition thnt I , ant to ure ' here, and I think it is very important and very significant that of the 218 banks in Nebraska that have joined this association, -- this bank, -- 203 have signed this petition, and have asked to be transferred to Chicago. Of the 30 banks in member banks, 28 have signed this petition. ',, min7, In other word, out of the total of 248 in that territory 231 have asked to be transferred. I assume that these banks that are thee to 'serve the trade, thc,re It,o serve the public with banking facilities, and who have been trained all their lives to knew how the public required to be served, and hew it must be served, in banking business is to flourish, that they know where their business must be done, and where they ought to be located, and to what bank they ought to be related. No ether reason can be ougc7ested for their joinin,7 in this petition except the conditions as they find them, 'mil as they believe this is no longer now the Question of an ambition of the yfarticular city or anything of that sort, -- nothing like that can eater i here; and it Seems to me the remarks of the Committee in dealinp: wj one ether controversy were very pertinent here, and I want to roe?... them. In disposing of the claim of New Orleans for a regional bank, the Committee says, at pae 368: "New Orleans rfew lexice to the Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, and that selected a district-extending from Atlantic Ocean, incliin.g all of Mississippi, Alabavr, norida, part of :ennessoe south of the Tennessee .11111111sa. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 7.iver." Now the Committee proceeds to deal with the objections that arose from that territory by New Orleans: It was repreeented by ijexas that it would do great violence to her tredo to connect her with New Orleans. It was claimed, and evidence was submitted In support of the claim, that her trade was with her own cities or with Kansas City and St. Louis. In a poll of the banks of Texas made by the Comptrollerof the Currency, 212 banke expressed a first choice, 121 a second choice, and 30 a third choice for ialias. ro bank in Texas expressed e firot choice for New Orleans, only 4 a second choice, and 44 a third choice. The whole tate rrotested against being related to New Orleans.' That was considered a proer element to take into account in deciding against the claims of New Orleans that the territory they must include was protesting, and showed its business currents flowed in another direction. "Me banks of elabema generally desired to be connected either with Birmingham or etianta, only .3_exprooeing e first choice for New f:Tleans, Jhe batehlt of Georgia desired to be connected with etlanta, none expressin6 a first or second choice for ':'ew Orleans, and only 12 a third choice. They represented that it would do violence to than to be connected with a city to the west and claimed that their relations were mainly with etlanta or cities to the northeast." end so :ith A.orida. The benks of that state apperontly felt that if related to New Orleans they would be doing violence to the trade currents, and so would Tennessee. 'rGenerelly speaking, the only banks which jesired to be connected with New Orleans and expressed a first f,roreroneo for her were 25 of the 26 bani7s reporting in Louisiana, and 19 of the 32 in ;Asoiseipei. 0n a 'Poll made from the comptroller's office of all banks expretislAg their jro..Jeronee as to the location for a :odoral reserve city, 124 expressed a first preference' for etlanta, 272 for :eallae, and only 5e for New Or- http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis leans. he views of the bunk'ors wore sup:orted by chambers or commerce, other business org'nizations, and by many busineSs men'. "It will tnus be seen that li the committee was to give weight to the views of business men and bankers in the section or the country aff ctod, to consider the opposition of the .:tatos or Texas, .labama, Georgia, Florida, ana TenneoLc.e, and to be guided by economic considerations, it could. not 'r,ve designated New Orleans as the loction or a reserve bank to cerve either *Me western or the eastern part of the district that city =zed icr. :ho course of VusineLs is not 1 rroll thP Atlantic seabourd torard New Orleans, nor lar-ely from the state of _exas TO that city, .<.nd if ' Dallas and AtaarM) had been related to New Orleans a bettor grounded cemplainT could and would have boon lodged by them against the committee's decision ,Jdo by New Orleans.than that m, Now I thin - that is an important consideration, that whether you are dealing with the question of locating a bank at a certain city, and the necosm.lry territory you would have to give it in order tnat it might have a bunk, Or whether you wore dealing with the question whether a particular territory should remain in the bank to which i was tlessigned, or should be transferred to some other district, the *wishes of the bankers, based lion the subLtantia.1 ground ttat tr de currents ilow in tile direction to which they wish to be relLted, is the most important considerotion that could io 1:resented to this Board. Naw I do not know any reason why this should aot be done, The representatives of tt.le Ban, in teir brief give no reasons, except they dispute the comp1etenes2 of our statements; they dispute our sttoments as to the totality of the flow of trade east and west, and as I say, 70 show that in minor points http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis here are variations and_ concede that there is a litle territory long the south line or Kansas that is disputed ground, you might say, as TO the traffic from Omaha and east of Omaha and Xansas City and •t• Joseph, but it does not at all modify the main idea that the great volume and bulk of the business roes that wf-ty, that the great volume and bulk of the proper bafl exchanges out3ht to go with the trade. There is onl:/ this one additional suggestion to make in that respect, and that is as to what effect this will have in the X'ansas City bank itself. I apprehend that the nere selfish desire of n bank, as a local entity, to have as large a holdin7; of stock and as large a business and he as prosperous as poseible, should not weigh for a moment against the needs and re wolfare of a particular territory, because that wP not the Urp000 of the organization of these banks. It was primarily to 3erve the public through the est ,blishment of a new method 1 of banr exchango to the banns of tne country. 7!ut we only . take out of the ;!;.annas City bank about a million six L_Indred thousand dollars of banking cpital if tile entire tates of Nenraska and 'dyoming are transferred from 'ansas v'ity to Chicago. '2he Governor of the Board: That would that leave the capital at :Kansas City? Yr. Brogan: Cloe to four million. Judge Goodrich: The basis of national banks would he only about three AJlion, nine hundrod thousand. ldr. Brogan: Yes, but with the additional subscriptions, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis t runs a trifle over four million, and I want in that connection to call your attention to a petition by certain banks In southern Oklahoma to be taken out of the Dallas district and added to Kansas City, because they say their business is largely with Kansas City rather than in the direction of Dallas:. -hile it is not proper for me toefer any sugrest- ions as to whether that matter will be decided in favor of theHe petitioning banks or not, still this Board will necesarily consider the two petitions togcther, and if found that upon a shooing in this :qatter that a large part of Oklahoma, that part which Kansas City showed was directly within its sphere in t is map, -- you will see their claim:- for all kinds of bank business runs down to Oklahoma. :low the petition is to take not quit(, all; leave a little corner hero at Dallas; and. they claim between that and the present line which will add a banking capital of threc hundred and sixty or eighty thousand tlollt,rs to the Kansas City bank. I submit that that question of the sufficiency of banking capital is a question to be determined independent of the (juesticn when, Nebraska and 'yarning should go. .;urely it is not to be contended thnt an intermediate territory like Nebraska and 'yoming is to be sacrificed in its banking and business interests In order simply to secure the success of a system. If the problem arising in connection with Kansas City and Dallas and St. Louis cannot be otherA.se worked out than by sacrificing Nebraska and. 'yoming, then ther thal should be adjusted. is ;IornethiJg wrong down there "hat it is is not for ts to say, but http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis the difficulty ought not to be addled onto Nebraska and 'yoming It Is right.and proper that Omaha should be denied a bank in view of that situation, because a claim of a particular city to a bank is not a claim entitled to any consideration on account of its interests in it, but a claim of a territory to bank service is entitled to the first consideration. Now just a word about the powers of this Board. I aseume you will take counsel with your legal a6visers on that questior; but we note the rather extraordinary claims made hero in the brief that this Board is without power to take this notion unleee it is chergod in our petition and proved by our evidence that the action of the Organization Committee was due to some fraud or grose abuse of power. Jude Goodrich: contains. Hardly n fair statement of whet our brief If you will read it, I will have no objections. r. lirogan: I will read it; it comes very close to that, if we do not :A .nte just that. However, if you wish to dis- claim it -Judge Goodrich: I do wish to disclaim it in the language you used. irogan: All right, lot us see. (Reads:) "Me rule ordinarily applying to the review of the action of 3oards sinner to the Organization Committee should be applied in this matter, and the notion remain undisturbed Anless it clearly appears that its decision was so arbitrary as to be palpably In disregard of the evidence, or was not made in Food faith, or was the result of fraud." Now that is the claim. Judge Goodrich: "Yes, sir. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Brogan•(continsing): proposition. That is of this statute. and I take issue with that : stal misunderstanding of the language . - ection 2, providing thal; the Organization Comslitte.e shall organize these districts, states: "The determination of said Qrganization Committee shall not be subject to review except by the Federal Reserve Board when organized:" Now the district thus created might be re-adjusted by the Federal Reserve Board. "Provided, That the districts shall be apportioned. with due regard to the convenienceand customary course of business and shall not necessarily be coterminous with any State or States. The districts thus oreted may be readjusted and new districts may from time to time be created by the Federal Reserve_Board, not to exceed twelve in all." Why I think it is fair, and I have no doubt the legal adviser of this Board will so advisk ,you that this is an original grant of power, that so far as legal powers arc concerned you have precisely the same power in readjusting these lineethat the Committee had in making them. You are given you get direct from the act of Congrrss power not just simply to sit as a reviewing court with narrow technical powers, but to do exactly what the Committe- ought to have done, and to do it on your independent judgment and on the situation as presented here. I do not 'think there is any room for dispute about that. Now there is one other point I want to call your attention to, -- the language of this act. It would not se advisable for me to at empt any broad statement as to the purpose of the statute, but so far as concerns this case itself, perhaps it http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis is absolutely concluded by the language of the statutel "The determination of. said Oreanization Com/Atte° shall not be subject to review eecept by the Federal - eserve Board when organized: Provided, That the disricts shall be arecrtIoned with due reTard to the co)evenience and customary course of business That ie a mandatory provision of the statute; it on the Comnittee, VMS mandatory It Is randatory on this Board, that these districts, -- loth the location of the cities and the fixinp: of the boundary lines of the districts,— the assiRnment of territory Cloull be with due ree-erd to the convenience and customary course of business. In other cords, it was not in- tended, as Kansas City is bound to arFue, that a new relation can nprinF up, that a new course of business may be artificially created by the location cir the bank at Kansas City. That wes not intended; Congress has forbidden thnt, and has expressly fieclarod it and has declared it emphatically. It is put in here as a proviso, -- provided that the district shall be apportioned "with due reeard to the convenience and custorrary course of business." Now if it iMpossible to do that in cases of small particular pieces of territory, why of course that is one of those things that must be disrerearded as minor matters always arc, but here is a territory corTriciee te'c hundred and eighteen banks, with, as I have pointed out, an innense traffic in proportion to its wealth and population, an tmmense t raffic duo to the fact that it exports practically all of its imports end exports, practically all it coneumes, and that all 1 • lie export traffic is gathered to the 1:issouri Tilver by these bree t great systems Or railroads, and carried along east from http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis there, fenerally converging in Chicago. That is the condition of things, and that's the customary course of business etIch the Organization Committee and this board is commanded to have due reesrd for in the fixing of these lines. ADDESSY JUi)G1 GOODRICH, OF RtelIASCff AND GIXDRICH, 1,0Un1 FOR THE FEDERAL RESERVE BAMT OF CentleMen of the Board: KArsAs CITY, VISSOURI. Mr. Brogan apparently miscon- ceives the point made by couneel for the Federal Bank of Kensas City in the brief, with reference to the manner in which this natter is to be considered by this 'Board. ..s wo interpret the provisions of the ect creating the federal reserve system, Congress did delegate to the Organization Committee the duty of dividing the entire country into twelve or less districts. It enjoined unon then the limitation that they should aprortion the country with due regard to convenience and the customary course of. businose. It did not enjoin. aeon then the solo duty of apportioning the country with reference to convenience, nor the sole duty of epDortioning the country with reference to the customary course of businese, but instructed them to take into consideration both of le oso factors. Nov; the terns "duo reenrd" are terms that have well defined significance, and, as I find them to legaii be defined, they mean that it was the duty of this Organization Committee to have a just and felr regard ror ell of the facts that appeared before them at the time of their respective hear- http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ings, of all facts of which they could take judicira knowled7e, and of all facts which they themselves knew. ITco this promkeding is in the nature of an appeal fror. the decision and TThding of the Orgaizatio. ComAttee. These gentle- core before you as the final arbiters, and they say to you that you ought to disarrange this district as created, that you. ought to segregate a part of the territory from it and rut it elseAlere, bcause the lower or subordinate body, whose fction you are reviewing, was guilty of a violation of the duty enjoined upon them. Therefore, I say to you that the rule promulp7.atod by this Board on. the 28th of August, in which you outlined the system of procodure in a case of this kind, was a fair one, and it contemplates that you gentlemen, in considering this matter, simlAy review the record as made before this Committee, as an aprelatc court would review the testimony of an inferior body. And T say that when you examine the record, you are boutid to roach the culclusio: that the Or7an1nation Com.rlttee discharRed its ut les well and wisely. Th4 ,qrganization Committe has told you the formula. or the plan whereby it attempted to perform its difficult task of dividinr this entire country into twelve separat districts. - and distinct That appears in the letter of April 10, and I need just to call to your attention, for fear that you nay have forgotten, the sum-ary that I have nude on page 14 of this brief, as to the factors that they say they took into consideration in arriving at this apportionm:Int. They say that they first took into consideration the ability of the member banks within the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 7f^ , : i d district to provide the ninlmum capital. They took into con- sideration, second, "The mercantile, industrial, and financial cornecbetions exiting in each district, and the relations ns of the district and the city tween the various portio selected for the location of the Federal Reserve Bank. - Third. The probable ability o the Federal :eserve Bonk after ortmnieatior to meet the leeltimate demands of business. "Fourth. The fair and equitable divisioe of the he 'oeral Reserve Darks among available capital o districts created. "Afth. The general geoFrarhical situation of the district, transportation linos, and the facilities for speedy- connection between the 2ederal 'Lieserve 1an3: the district. and all portions "Sixth. The population, area, and prevalent business activities of the district, whether agricultuxal, menufacturin, mining, or coe-ercial, its record of growth. and development in the :past, and, its prospects for the future. - Seventh, The Committee endeavored, as Tar as practicable, to follow State lines." I want to cell attention also to the fact that the Conptroller of the Currency for the raet eighteen years has classified rebraska alow7 with Yensas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Wyoming and Montana as the "western states." It's a natural claseifioation. It's one that's based unoi the ^revalling industrial activities of those states. Now we find that this Board was beset with aPrlications from tl- Irty-seven different commercial centers in the Upite0 Niates, each one clamorier' for its place as the arrropriate location of a federal reserve bank, e find that in this ietical territory the bans o' Colorado came forward with Denver as a candidate. The banks G ebraska were divided in their allegiance between the city of Lincoln and the city cYlf LV http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Omaha, and. Kansas City was rut' forTard as a. candidate. Not one word wao said before that Orgaml.zp.tion ComIttee by anybody who appeared before it from the State of the state of obraska ought to be linked benk at Chicago. Avt one word wa ebv- E1a. 2ayinrr that : fi_th a federal reserve aid by anybody who appeared before thIA Committee at that tine c1almilv7 t1:A 7rebraska woula be outraged or its commercial industries ruined IT it were not linked with alim70. the vote of all cf the brAnhs in this . tc:rritory was taken, only nine bt ks in the whole District No. , 10 voted for Chicao as their first choice, and forr of those banks wre in the Aato of nssotri, and Live in the State of Debraska. Ur. Brogan argues for 4oming. At the hearing in Denver the Wyoming bankers were there in force, end they contended to &man that yarning ought to go to Lenver. There is another very significant thine that I desire to invite your attention to before I fro to the considoratior, of some of the facts that are nortirent to that controversy. The Comptroller's report for the first of January, 1914, which is set forth in ti letter to the 'enate, on page 365, -iveo a list of the location of the discounts mar! by a large number of the national banks of this countr7, and classifies them by tates. It shows the discounts rade, for instance, in the 3tates, in what wa':! tomed the eastern :'tates, in what was ti:rod the southern states, and .;'hat was termed the States in ,et, and the wostern 2tates and the Facific tho middle ( http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis .4sI have oaid before, the Comptroller of the Currency has alasolfied Jebraska as beihg in that group knowr ae veste- rn States, and Wyoring, Colorado, Kansas, and Oklahora, are 11)0Swise -Ur, Brogan (ilitorruptin0: akota also, Judge Goodrich (confirming): tontana, also ?eo, the two e•Ifotan, and thaouri Jo olfyxsificJd as a niddle wer3tern :tate. ?out thoso statistlos show that on Januery 14 Chicao haej loaned to tho western the iteetern tatf)s about -- tho Chiang() barks 1W loanod to tates about -- eleven Trillion NAlnrn of its ' capital, thnt :&an$as City had loaned to the very sem nt;iteill tionty-one million dollars of Ito onOtA, and Omaha twenty* eight rillior dollars of its capital, whicb shows ocinclusively that aw+ 4 very time the bfrr of Thren8 City were surplying to the T7,eople of this territor wa twicc the mount of roney that being then sumaled by Chicaro barks, Now it is hardly rorth while for no to argnr) to you gentle* wen relative to the natural r(!sourtlecs of the territory embre_ced ir Ostriet No, 10, Mr, Broan attempts to 1. 7“71ante that there 1 is acne alselmilarity In the netrrtA industries and the activities that. are being c;irrie on by the rPorle In thAn tnrxl_tory. If there LF) aissinilaritien do not torritory, those aissimiarlties 7:1,A; lqAwocnuul bctwoen 'obro. ka, 1<.,:arlse43 an 8 :our 1, nor do they rnAst Orlvhorr, because the antes of Nebrultka, Kansas, Oklahom, an i.htt part of .ivcou.ri incluaeol - _ http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis r witbin the federal reserve Mstrict .1o. 10 are identically similar. It must be conceded by everybody that the industries It of those locrilities are those of farminr and stock rLis1.rle3.. As true that in Oklahoma and Yansan, by reaeon of the recent discovery of oil and gas, there has sprung up in that territory other business activities, but taken an a whole, these territories are alike in their nutural resources. Mr an a-ks me why I have not pointed out in the Brcv, I ask him brief how Xama=7, City would be hurt by this cham3e. why he has not told well t;entlemen how the 'Ante of ebraska would 1:e hurt by boinu compelled to stay in this district. He has .aned about -encralities, he has talked about the course of trt;do, but he has not civen you one example, or one instance, or one argument, that ought to be sufficient to satisfy your minds that a sinle bank in the :T,tato of !ebrr,ska would suffer any injury diatevor if coin elled to remain in this dictrict. The brief 1)repared here irtdic:tes thet the bankers in l obraska have heretofore hn6 their busincsL, affiliations and as:ociations , with the ban's in cillen r..ro, and there-for if a iTebrauka bnrler desires to discount his paver or nemtinto a loan, he will be known to the Chicago banker, and will get morn favorable and more expeditious treatrent: but 1".17. Yates, who n name appoars upon this brief, the resident or the , ebrash 'ntional Bank, at the time of the hearing in Lincoln, when interrop;ated by the Secretary of the Ireasury, WAO suggested that he was Pursuing sl line of ar. ;ument that might cause the whole thing ? http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis _,t; go to Chicago, used tlAs ve7y pertinent and significant langu-Te: -If we should go to Jhicago, what would Chicago know about 1,ebraslia or _Kansas or -olorado or ontana or yoming? It would know nothing, while alost any 1ieldras;7a balakor oould inow a great deal about it." low I say to you, in this conn, ction, if I may be permitted to go outside of the record so fur, that it is notorious that the bank in .t...ansas City are officered by men recruited from all of that western country: there are many officers in ':ansas City institutions who 1;,t e received ttleir banking experience in the tate of :obraska. And I undertake to say ' lso that if a vote could be taken upon tho pro:pssition, it —ould be found that more bunkers in the of Deraslm are acquainted fith Yansas City bankers than are acquainted with Chicago bankers. :Tow for some of the facts showing that li_ansas City does have in fact v ry substantial relations with the :Aato of i;ehrriska. Yr. r,rogan ,ould have you believe that Eansus City is a sort of terra incognita to Toliraskans, th'A it is almost an alien country; but I undertake to say that this r cord justIfies the statement that foe south thirty-nino counties of ilebrasha do more business with St. Joseph and Zalisas City, wl,icr- are to the southeast, than they do with Lissouri or any other locality. I undertake to sa;i that this r-cord shows that thourth/the Organization Committee had the 'benefit of a r.rent deal of data which is only condensed in a letter to the United ( ,:tates Senate, this data -f.s supplemented by very el.borLte maps, copies of which are on file with the report of the Organization http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis it I am going to go through this matter very briefly, because contains some very prcrmant r.nd sone v, r: significant dAa. You will rcxember tht when the Committee havinr- In charge the claims of jansas City set o.:t to secure a federal reoerve bunk for that 1,1ace, they did not claim the entire tate of Nebrsska; they claimed only that territory 1yinr4 south of the Llatte iUvr. This was upon the assumption that Omaha itself would be a candidate for the location of the bank, but in the f_ce of the fact that Omaha was an aspirant and seekinr- to have located within it a i'edrol reserve bank. :he .Kansac City banks werc, Tilling to del,ate with Omaha the question of whether or not the south thirty-Aine counties in the 'tate of Nebraska wore ;Kansas City torritoiT or C111841 territory. he facts shown before that tdommittee showed that thirty per cent of all of the live stock produced in the state of Nebraska went to ansas City markets, -- thirty per cent of it; and that, in spite of the fact that there art, many local packing houses in the State of Nebraska, and that Omaha i_self is the t,-IirC1 largest place as a picking center in the L7nited :Aates. It showed also that =tam:as City did during the previoun year with Nebraska a jobbinr-businc)ss of -0, ked A.11ion dollars, and that these little dots that you see on the map here (indicating), each one of those dots which is in the territory south of the red line, indicatinp: the south thirty-nine counties, indicAes one hundred thousandthousand dollars' worth of business. A each one of those spots in the state of Nobras'7a, each one of those dots (indicating) indicates places in the State of Nebraska at which http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis the lumber industries in Kansas City sold one hundred thousand dollars' worth of lumber in the previous year. ais map that was sent out at the same time shows the nature and extent of the motor cer industry carried on in Kansas City, and it appears from this map that the .business transacted with Nebraska during the year of 1913 in motor cars and motor car accesseries, eregated 1,960,000, and that the places where it was done were substantially throughoet the entire tate. Now coming back to the facts that they are asking you to consider in this instance, I want to call your attention also to what appeared before the City's banking activities. ommittee with reference to Kansas It appeared that at the time of the hearine; in Kansas City, .ansas City had reelllex correspondents in nebraska of fity-two fifty-one national banks and seventy-eight state banks, and the map that you will find :'t page 175 of the letter to the :enate shows the location of towns in the tate of ilebraska in which eansas City banks at that time had correspondents ( reduces, map). Now thee 7entlemen contend that you ought to attach great deal of importance .to the statistics which they compile from the Bankers' Encyclopedia. They say that the 7,an1:ers' Encyclopedia is used by people generally, and that the fact that 158 Nebraska banks had Chicago correspondents, while only some 10 or 12 had Kansas City corresponCients, is a very significant factor in determining this controversy, and that it ver eleerly shows the customary course of business, and the course of trade. "e say in that connection that if that factor http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis is to be determinative, then from their own record it shows that the course of business is not to Chicago at all, but the course of business is to New York, because 223 Nebraska banks had a New Yor correspondent, while only 156 had a correspondent in (;hicago. e say furthermore, in this connection, that the question of exchange, or the question of a foreign bank for exchange puroses, is not a fctor to be considered in determining this matter, when it is considered that the -urposo of the law makers in creating this new system was to break up the existing order of things, and to create a new system. e so.y that the fact that a small bank in Nebraska has heretofore had an account in lier York or has heretofore had an account In Chicago for exchange purposes, is nA -F.o be considered in determining this question. I was fortunate enough in my earlier career to be associated with a na,inal bank in a smaller community, and in a strictly egricultural and stockraisin banker. comunity, and I know the habits of the small country I know how he looks upon those things, end I venture tio assertion thLt few banks in Nebraska, outside of Lincoln and. Omaha, hav. whatever. any personal relations with the Chioago banks They use their Chicago banks and their New York banks simplLi for reserve purposes, because the conditions existing have heretofore re:!uired that they have available ler the use of their customers drafts th.t will -pass at par in those places. Under the new system a draft drawn by the Nebraska bank upon its correspondent in Omaha, or a draft drawn http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis for a federal reserve bank 1i Zansac (,ity, will pass par throughout the entire country, and there is no occasion any lonp-or for t129 small bank in Nebraska having its flew York correspondent, nor is there any occasion for tho small banker having his correspondent in Chicago. I want to call your attention to the testimony that actually a-w,ears in this record with reference to the coRrse of business in Ebbracka. I might sum it up in a nut-shell by payi 7 that it shows in the first instance that the man who actually raises the wheat and the corn, the man who fattens the stock; disposes of that either to the local dealer in hi home town or ships it to Zansas City, St. Joseph, or Omaha, and the local dealer who buys it markets it in either Zansas City, Omaha. t. Joseph or It is apparent from this record that se far as the pro- ducer is concerned, he has nothing whtAe -ver to do -Jith t'ne marketinfl. of that product, alter it r2aches the Omaha market. In other words, the transactions on the part of the produce r in the 'Aate of Yebracl-a are carried oa entifely Tithi.1 rather than without the district, and it mouAto to this: It is trio that a large part of the surplus product of Nebraska doe:; o to the eastern markets; it is likewise fruo that a large part of the Surplus products of 1.issouri goes to the eastern market; it is like:ice true that a lar-c part of the surplus product o -7ansoo ithizsacand Oklahoma and all this territory that lies east of the Rocky 1Jountains goes beyonc_ _ansa... City and t. Joseph and Omaha to the eastorn prArkets; and if your argument be right, then you could laver*I-Ive a federn1 resrve brik in any torritory that produced moro than it consumed, whore the couroo of the surplus product was away from that tcrritery. Now th000 rentlemen have not boon entirely fair in their statistics compiled as part of one of their exhibits. ox:hibit In I zi1l first call rIttention to the statiE;ties that they compile with reference to the toms handled by ::ancils City. It appears on page 7 of their brio': that they got a lict of the items c.rawn by 150 of the 210 national Ixanks in UA.caf7o or in Nobraska upon Cimaha, Chicago, and :;ioux City, and upon r:7,ansap City, and also a number of items represented in these various transactiono; and than they ,71.ve some other details as to drafts and checks drawn anti forwrded. Now it is vry significart in this conno tion that when you examine the names that apr upon this petition, and you examine elsowere the list of !Ill ; ,.enof tho nationnl bins in the State of Nebrasl:a, that te- .ese : tlemen, whether by accident or design I do not know, hfAve omitted every no 6 • _ -petitioning bank in the '-4 to of :Jebraska except one. They have omitted the banks in Lincoln wflich admittedly have nos City, and the 11: . large business transactions in )n-petiti0ning banks or baners that have not joined ,L1 this petition, - http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and these are almost entirely the bvIlkors that are in this southern territory of Nebraska. I say it is '•rdly fair to compile these statistics and ask you to draw this conclusion cmd eliminnt from their compilation that torritor:: ;7.1.1ch is the natural business territory of Kansas City. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • -- Now they h ve some far-L*11 - r statistics here with reference c to the volume of business -tandled by the Union Pacifi for the road during the year of 1913, and I myself discovered purport first time this morning that these statistics do not to be statistics with reference solely to the and :,ebraska. tates of yoming I made the mistake of assuming in my brief that they did, but by rcfc,rence to 'Ichibit it .:111 be made apparent that the statistics as given by the railroad officials had refiTebrask_:. erence to the grain originating, not in the ;;taten of and a . yoming, but the grain originatin- in the :-Aates of Usbrash yoming, and Colorado. Lr. Brogan: It so states. Judge Goodrich (continuing): I say it so states, but it makes this all the more significant. In other words, for vorsy, some purpose which is entirely foreign to this contro in they ,'ant to tell you about the grain th t ori inates Colorado. Brcy:an: Tor't happens to ho the statistics. Judge Goodrich (continuing): i I understand, but you have n lined there with the states of iTebraska and yoming the ,nd live stock originating7 in the state of Colorado. ' I 1- ve not YOU Itempted to segregate the two, so they have no sis:- nificf.A.noe us to the figures that are produced here. It does not show what part, for instances, comes from Nebraska, what part comes from yoming. Consequently, they cannot have any significance under the situation here, and it is or http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis notorious that so far as Nebraska and Wyoming are concerned, very little of the products will be transported by the Union . Pacific that wouad naturally reach :ans!..s City. The Union i?acific, running through 'Iyoming and Nebraska, is a natural feeder to Omaha, and does not go directly to Kansas City. The Union Pacific facilities for lansas City traverse the State of Colorado, and do not touch the State of Nebraska at all. gow th;,: document contains statistics compiled by some , one in behalf of the Omaha banks, which show the transactions had over the Burlington :Railroad during the same year. Now from these statistics it appears that during the year 1913 the Burlington road transported 21,410rs of live stock to Omaha, and 14,288 care of live stock to 7ansas City and St. Joseph, those are their own figures; and that during the same period, 14, 141 cars of grain went over the Burlington to Omaha, and 9,016 to *ansas City and St. Joseph. In other -Mnri000 -- out of the total cars of grain words, GaEtt-vt and live stock transported by the Burlington Ilailroad in the, year 1913, originating in the States of :yoming and Nebraska 35,000 of those cars went to City and St. Joseph. maha, and 23,000 to .ansas ;Jul yet this gentleman has the temerity to come before you and insist that Kansas City has no business or trade relations whatever with the State of Nebraska, and that these gentlemen who spent so many months in the very ardnoue and onerous task of trying to make an apportionment http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis of the territory in the United tates w ic't would be f2ir and just, have filed properly to discharge their duties. How as to convenience, I think th t is ye/7 essential factor, and. it is one tilLt should have been given, and doubtless was ;-iven a groat deal of weight by the Organization committee. _y opponents be; that r-uestion. They tell you about all of the throurth trains t*II,A, traverse the tate of nobraska on their way to Chicago, but they fail to call your attention to the fact th,!..t ansas City is three hundred miles nearer any part of ilebraska you want to pick out than is Chicago, according to the ordinary routes of transporta tion. Let us see: Say that the banker out in ;Iyoming or the banke r anywhere in the State of Nebraska desires to go to Chica go, and there confer with the afederal :.eserve authoritie s; in order to reach Chicago he has got first to go to some :isscuri gate-way point. fie may go to Tansas City. L great many Nebraska bankers, if they wanted to go to C icago, and took tlio most natural and the shortest route, would ho by way of ,ansas City. :hen the banker go to Yansas City -- this ileb- raska banker would be as near Chicago as Omaha is; when he got to St. Joseph, he would be four hundred miles nearer to 1:ansas City than to Chicago, and when he reach ed (Ymaba he would be three hundred miles nearer to _ranst s City than to CA.car;o. Yet these gentlemen say that we arc going to cause them a great deal of inconvenience. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The average running time of the trains bet7oen Chica-p and. Omaha is thirteen .lours and a fraction; I cannot r7ive you the exact number of minutes, but it appears in the statistics compiled by Jenvor; you will find it there nor. The Nebraska banker, i: he wants to go to Chicago, as I said before, must first p;0 to (maha. So nothing can Le said from the standpoint of convenience, because it appeLrs from this record that the ;issouri 2acific Railroad and the Burlin7ton Railroad hr_tve freouently trains serving Omaha, so that any Irebraska banker who has occasion personally to visit a federal reserve bank, can co directly from Omaha to :ansas City, and save three hundred miles in distance, and about Live hours each way in time. Then a Nebraska banker wants to telegraph to Kansas City it is all in favor of ,ansas City as against Chicago. The Governor of the Board: :hat is the time between Omaha and -ansas City? Judge J.00drich: 1,1r. ilrogan: I think it is about six hours. Yes; it takes all night, just the same as to Chicago, -- o little shorter yet. Judge Goodrich (continuin,-). Of resoniir;. That shows the character It makes no d'fference to !7.r. Brogan,,but to , some countryltn]-ers there is so:lethins more than the mere expenditure of time involved; and it strikes me that these : frugal-minded country directors 1- olad very much prefer to send their officers on a journey ,J:ercin they might save http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis six hundred miles in disLnces, and possibly _ifteen dollars in transportation, even thoup:, it did take the same amount of ,That is a factor. But as to the telegraphic rates, there is no point in Nebraska, as I said before, that is nearer Chicugo than Omaha. The primary rote from Omaho to Chicago of a telegram is forty cents, ad to .ansas City is thirty cents. Again, the telephonic rate tet7eon Omaha and Chicago is 2.76 for the first three minutes, ilereas it is only 1.00 to Kansas City, and the proportions for any additional minutes spent in conversation ore the same. In other words, it costs ono-third more to telogrnph to Chicago than it does to _ansas City, and it costs three times as much to telephone to Chicago as to Kansas City. ?Tow', those gentlemen live also omitted all mention of oter lines of railroad. It is doubtless known to you entle- men better than to me, because I am not especially f_miliar with it, that the Burlington Eoad goes up to Omaha, that the Lissouri Pacific goes up to Omaha, and that the Burlington I.cific both have lines that go up in the and the Assouri P, region of Lincoln; but in addition to that, the rock Island RoilroPd starts out at t. Joseph, .nd traverses the whole southern tier of Nebraskan counties, -- some eight or ten counties, -- and traverses, I miqht say, the -lovt densely settled portion of iTebraska. The richest, the finest, the most productive part of Nebraska is the territory south of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis the _latt iivor. hat's the “ost thickly popuLtted, it's st towns the oldest, and it's the country that has the large ho in it. h, rand Island lallroad originates at St. Josep of ITebraska 1 : - 1(1 traverses for some distance the southern part Grand Isnd finally roaches its ultimate destination up in land, up ,tout the aiddle of nebraska. Now, they have not to what is done c.7iven you a simqe statistic with reference by those railroads. Yet they stand here, almost contendit7 . that 7:e belong in an entirely different class (To the Governor of the Board): how much ti .e have I taken? no Governor of the Board: You have taken about forty minutes. . Judge Goodrich (continuins): I do not think, gentlemen, you much that under these circumstances I ou7ht to weary the fact that longer, hut I do want to call :/our attention to gh trains it may be contended here that all these twenty throu that they have to Chicago afford, very much better mail facilities, and I went outside the record a few days ago so to procure information a0 to just how Cmaha is served from Chicago and from lansti,s City, from the standpoint of m ils. facts appear on page 36 of the brief. These It 7111 be shown there that there go each day from Omaha to 7ansas City seven mails, and they go at very seasonable and convenient hours: for instances, eight o'clock in the morning; 8:45 in the morning; 1:30 p. m.; and on up to 11:35 Inidnit; !-.nd the times they http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis are received in 'eansus City -- the mails are received in Kansas City -- are seven. Now the mails from Omaha to Chicago are only six. In other words, there is one more mail each day going from Omaha to Kansas City than there is going from Omaha to Chicago. We suffer a little bit on the other route, but on the mails that come from Chicago and come from ansas City to Omaha, they have nine and we have seve n. These statistics here in th. e reports show that a large part of the business in the extreme northeastern Dart of Nebraska is done with , inneapolls; these statistics ';ere show that in western Nebraska its transactions ,re naturally in large measure with Denver; and the statistics here show alma:t conclusively VI' t '7/7ning 11:_:s heretofore done subst anJoiness with the State of Colorado. tially all of tis b. very evident. That' Cheyenne and Laramie are the largest centers in the State of yomin:7,-, -11d they are both 'racticall ;;within one hundred miles of the city of Denver. liere is another significant fact that you :;entlemen would be justified in taking into considerat ion in the e - n:Adoration of this matter. Everything that these 1.entler.en are saying, if true, could be said with much more force by Denver. If what they say is true, Denver could likewise mi.L-e the self-same complaint, -- but Denver and Colorado are not here complaining. There is one fact that I omitted, that I think has vary direct bearing, both on 1.10 tuestion of due c(,u'roe of http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis trade, and the question of convenience. You gentlemen are doubtless aware -- familiar wiVI the great mail order houses of .ontgomery, Ward and Company, and ears Roebuck and Company. They have, for many years had their headqurters in the City of Chicago. about fur or five years ago the :ontgomery--ard concern changed its inanner of handling its western products, and establishad its mail order house in :ansT.ts City, in order to serve this western country, and the statistics compiled by that concern, and hoard before the Organization Committee, showed that 12.3 percent of the entire business done by that ifansas City house was done with the State of Nebraska, and those figures become very significant when they are put against the figures that only 1 .9 percent of its business --Tas done in the State of :issouri. he testimony there shows also th_t ,ansas City does business way up into Iowa. Its trade territory embraces this entire countr. The Committee acted wisely, and in my judgment, it could not have made a more logical selection, and . or you gentlemen now to overturn their action, wad set aside what they did, would be to refuse to have due regard for the convenience and customary course of business. Dr. A. C. Eiller: I would like to ask counsel .hether he has considered -- and I will as;: also Li.. Brogan -- the way in which this district will be affected in the matter of clearings by either its retention within the iiansas City district or its transfer to the Chicago district. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - -ak Judge Goodrich: It is to t, 'is extent, of course, -- the Making of this change would reduce the carital of the federal reserve bank of 1(anss City below the minimum, hut I undertake to say that so far as the Nebraska banks are concerned they will continue to cler, r their affairs primarily as they have . heretofore. The testimony here shows that all the smaller banks throughout the State of Nebraska have kept their accounts in Chicago and in New York only for exchange purposes, and that their primary transactions have been with the larger banks either in lineoln or Omaha, and that they keep their reserves 'Vlore. It is possible thnft in order to afford them ultimate- ly all the facilities they want, there ought to be a brrmch bank established at Omaha, but I m17ht say this in connection with that, it is a Nflry significant thing that so far as the present experience of the federal reserve bank of ansas City is concerned, the Nebraskan individuals have tff, ,.en a pronounced liking to it, if results are any indication. Cf the discounts that have thus far been wade by the federal reserve bank at ,Kansas City, and those that remain on hand at this time, fully sixty-five percent are from the State of Nebraska; and I understand that at all times more than fifty percent of the loans that they make hve been made to the tate of - ebraska; N and 1 understand furthermore from the evidence that they have yet the first complaint to hear from any banker in the State of Nebraska as to any inconvenience he has suffered in the matter of procuring his loans. Is there anything else? Does http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis that answer your question? Hon. Paul M. Thrburg: you familiar with the c.ggre- gate loans of Yansas City? Judge Goodrich: 1 beg your pardon? Paul :7. lai.rburp;: Are you familiar 1-rit the aggre- gate loans qf Kansas City? Judge Goodrich: I have not the information at this time, but filei -re excoodingly small, -- about clrburg: 15,000. be . , 90,000. Sixty-five percent of that will a:A will not be complete proof as to business in Nebraska. Judge Goodrich: But it is siF:nificant that they have ex. 'erionced no inconvenience in having their transactions there , but in many parts of Nebrasim a local banker can leuvo home after breakfast, have several hours in Kansas City after the transaction of his business, and be home at a reasonable hour in tbe evening. Dr. A. 0. Eillor: prior to the establishment of the reerve banh in ''ancv.s City, 6.Id any of the banl7s in 7ebraska were they not in the country clearings system having headquarters at Kansas City? Judge Goodrich: were handled. I do not know just how those matters I mow we !;:ro counsel for the Penh of Commerce in Kansas City, and I know they had subst antial transactions with banks in the larger towns of ansas, and I --7rehend there was some system whereby those accounts were handled in lamsas City at par. 3r. . I can find (Tu. about that. % C. Miller: It would be interesting; you might do SO. AllGUISENT IN IXBUTritAL BY 1,:.E.• A, BROGAN, OF COUI.U.EL 1•01 1;1;BR/1SY:A idTD : , Ilentlemen of the Board: I just want a few words; and I want to suy I do not think there is enolu7h difference between us as to the ultimate facts to justify any charges of mix,representt:tion or charges on either side. The matter on which we differ is rather as to the analysis of admitted firrares than anything else, because there is no dispute as to actual faet111) One point I want to clear up without any delay: .L.ere is no doubt in the world, and I think I trie d to state that in my opening, t;wt all this territory from northern Zexas -- I might say from central Texas -- to Canada is equally alike in its 1-Krodrcts %nd its wants , -And its needs, t.nd th't is prec ise! Ibr why it does not tend to meet in one common center, because iFts traffic all flows east and west, and ncOu rally distributes itself in zones, just as I 've cont ended for, and there 17 uld be just _Ls much reason for contondin that the Dakotas ought to pm into the same territory Atli -ansas City as that Nebraska auht to, because their prod ucts are identical. It is that taat separates them into these parallel routes. New, one other possible misu ndorstandinr: I thought to correct was this: It was said that at the hrinp; no one http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis asked that this territory be put into the Chic%It7o district. noubtless there was no one Vero furnis ing a brief and as7 :inc,, for that. As I pointed out in my opening statement, that was one of the unfortunate conditions, but the Committee itself sought to correct th t short-coming by asking for a statement as to the Lreferences, so as to include other cities as well as those that were irepared to ask for particulv,r territory. They called on all their 1)-111-s to give the first, second, and third choice, and although tLere was no active propaganda, yet they got the actual wishes of those banks in the matter. On page 353 of their report they stow how the :;obraska banks voted in rest onse to that renuest, and I think this is very significant. It is true only five banks named Chicago, because there was active propaganda in behalf of Omaha and Lincoln, and Omaha got, and Lincoln eight votes for first choice. and Zansv.s City got, That accounts for that small group in the southeastern corner of Nebraska, which I concede is debatable territory between Omaha and :.tansas City. As to the second choice, it becomes more si7nificant, because Chicago had 110 votes. A majority of the banks of lIebraska voted for Chicago as second choice, and only nine voted for Kansas City as second choice. or their third coice 54 voted for (7 /icage, and 49 for :ansas City. So that you 1lLve a total first, sec- ond and third choice of the Nebraska bankers, of :bout 170, and Kansas City received about, I should say, 68, first, second, and third choice votes, hen we turn to :woming, it is not http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis correct tht 'yoming was unanimous for ;enver; it was almost evenly divided between Denver and Omaha, in recognition of Vle fact that its traffic is 7enerally eastward., althoun i)enver is nearer to it, and. perhaps more evenly situated by train service as to _large parts of ::yoming. Yet there were ten banks votinc for Omaha, and twelve for Denver and Chicago; 80 US to the second and third choices, Kansas City wss not the first or second choice of any .-;ymniag bank, but the third ,choice of three. o counsel was mistaken when he said there was no expression before the Committee as to the Nebraska and :Wyominiz banks. On the contrary, there was a veri, emphatic expression that if they could not get Omaha or Lincoln, they wanted Chica,;() as third choice, and that that was the proper , place with which to relate them if they were not to have the bank in their own State. • In line with that very thing I have no doubt that Yates appeared at that meeting and said that as between Omaha and Chicago the Chica7o banks would know relatively little about conditions in the .fl'obnska banks, but hie talk :ms on .tirely with relation to Omaha and Chicago. .tha It does not follow Kansas City would know any tore or as much about condi- tions in the Nebraska banks as would the C'tAcap o haner. ; . ;not do /think counsel can be correct in saying that tTTirty percent of all the cattle shipped out of Nebraska came to Kansas City. I personally - - Judge Goodrich: The testimony shows it. :17. Brogan: A http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I understand. Mere is a mistake somewhere, because it couJA not arnount to that. Now, we have some figures here that I think overturn it completely. possible. It could not be I think it is not even thirty percent out of that portion which runs a1on7 the southern pfIrt of Nebraska. Let me sthaN you Vlese very figures which he read from our brief. They would indicto a different condition of things. 58 of the certificate of (.'11 page r. , olcomb, who was not representing a bank, but is the traffic manager of the C. B. 7,ailroad Company, he states: ;1. Yates, i'resi(1ent lebraska National P:cl.nk, Omaha, Nebraska. Dear sir: "In accordance with your request of oven date, I wish to advise that the following is a statement of cars of the commodities named, handled by the Chicago, Burlington & Alincy, having origin in the States of "Tobraska and '.yomins . . .Only the Union 1aci1'ic did not confine it to this, but the Bur— ington statistics 1..e confined to Nebraska !: nd . yomin , . g, and , destinations Omaha and oast, St. Joseph and Kansas City for the fiscal year ending June 00th 1 13." S follows: 1: ter, which was dated 01mha, November 11, n 9 t 1914, gives the totals for live stoc'7, grain, gravel and sand, 4a1ry products, hay, lici food, for Omaha, St. Joseph. and Zansas City, as 1')0,764, 11,103, and 12,269, respeclive ly.) Slow, ull that live stock alone as against St. Joseph and Omaha, and business from Nebraska and t. Jc:, ph, is on its way east. It reaches Chicago, c,nd therefi e, so far as the http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Nebraska banker has to do with it, he lo entirely in the Chicago bankers' hands, but if you put these two together, of the thirty thousand cars of live stock shipped on the BurlinFton system Clone, it is, we will say, better than one-third of liebraska's. '1110 three great systems, the :orthwestor, the Union RaciAc, and the Burlington, practically control thLt traffic. There are oters there, -- the I-lock Island sends trains through, and the Lliosouri 2acific is struggling with the problem, and the Grand Island is is court, but these are the three great systems that handle the traffic, and this is the statement that of the thirty thousand cars hwidled by Omaha and $t. Joseph, ,500 were handled by !:ansas City. . I fail to see where they will get thirty percent of even the One-third to rnahe. and A. joseph together. ,ansas City woul - have nothing to do with *t. Joseph traffic and shipments, and this is not an argument against Kansas City for aha, but of all the traffic which goes through Omaha and hawses City, and of the Z0,000,cars only 4,500 were handled in iansas City, so the statement that only thirty percent of the cattle proauced and shirred out of TJebraska will f71,7o to .:ansas City can not possibly be sustained. do not think co -ansel meant to say that the purpose of this act to break up the existing order of things. I un- derstand it was to distribute some of the congested reoervos; 1 understand that to be tho : urpose; but to say that pmnorailv speaking it 'as to destroy the existing course of business, or http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis even the existing course of bank exchanges, certainly must be a misinterpretation of the act, because Congress was careful to avoid the possibility of such an interpretation of this act by providing that the districts should be a.ortioed aitll due regard to convenience and the due course of business, and that does not mean that customary coAditioas should be allowed to continue, so far as a change might be necessary to carry out the purpose of the act, which was to distribute the reserves in the great reserve centers. .;,s to the statement concerning collections, this I do not think involves clearini7s, lait collections handled otherwise, including clearings korhaDo there is no basis for the criti- cism of coamel that this certificate shows in the printed brief just what banks and juW: what towns have contributed to t'As information. Obviously, it does not include all of Nebraska, ecause it includes only 153 of the banks, ond their names and lee tions are 7;iven here, so there can be no misunderstandInc as to what information was said to be furnished here, but thoy sow the remarkable fct that excludinc: large centers of .South Omaha and Lincoln, of the banks of the lesser class throughout the State, 15.5 show practically no bus 7 ness 1!utever with 1. sas City, and especially from the large busin ess wit Omaha they show a large business with Chicago. low, that's whal. this is for. a are conceding, and have throughout, that there is a small corner or strip , if you pleace to cll it, of Nebraska, trading Generally and shipping http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Imre to St, Joseph than to j:ransas City, yet it has some rola)ns with Eansac City, 4.1nd if the :;oard thourht tht ti'ere was ti,-a reason because of that fact or because of the necessity of retaining sufficient capital -- bankirr- capital -- in ansas City, if those things wore impor'tnt enou7h to justify breaking the state line, there would be no POYIOUS objection on our part to LL few of those counties bein- left In the :ansas City district; __ not of course half of the State, as claimed here, because t1l3t would be doing violcnce to the wishes of nearly half of these petitioners, but probably fiiur counties, -- five or six at the outside, -- in the southe;_istern corner of Ilebraska, could be left in the alacas City diutrict without doing any great violence to their business, rczt th t itself s not an argument :Eor continuin?: the ingonvonience , to the .„0 i rest of the State or s to yoming. Now, my understanding is 'that the rest of the banks all clear through Omaha, -- subztantially all,-- that their businets is there. Just how they will be affected by this arrancrement I do not rrofess to be able to discuss, because I lack the toci- nical knowledge of i , fbankinl, but 1 know their banking relations are - with rtgaha. llow perhaps 1 s"'ol; (1. refer to one other feature. Counsel discussed the fact that so far as the individl who produces the product of the farm, and as for as the small country bank is concerned, they have no Ciirect relations with the ultimate urchaser of the prodcet, or wit' the final bank whore the exchanges are carried on; and th!.A is true; but the various - http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • transactions '2,re related to each other. The farmer sells ,is cattle to the buyer in tie village, and gets a check on the local bank, but that dolor ships to the nearest point, Omaha or Lincoln, or some other towns in Nebraska that carry on shipping business, and there he may sell or ship to Omaha or Chicago,. and he receives something in exchange, which ultimate?.y comes from the purchaser in C• icao, and so there has to a bank exchange carriod on, and affecting ultimately the ia,rmer who grows the crop and the small banker -ho first holds the check that pays for the cttle and the grain. You can not separate the Interests of a State, merely because those rela: , tions will e: ist everywhere, .and I fail to see the hearing it has whatever. I was not able to discuss the statement of the sixty-five per cent of the loans from Ilebrasa, hut the qucstion as'- ed by a member of the Board of course disposes of that. Me loan- ing is not sufficient in any part of the district to warrnt any att• ck on it, and yet we have not been told hat effect the change of this district to suit the convenience and earnest desires of Nebraska and hyoming would have upon the Zansas City bank, That harm would it do? Tould it do any harm to ICansas and nklahema and other portions? tIffected the ban17 itself. Obvious1' only as it That harm would it do the banl, If : you take away this ,1,600,000 of capital, and if you wish to protect it by leaving half million or so in the southeastern corner, and if you find it advisable to add three or four http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis hundred thousand dollars from the Oklahoma counties petitionto get into the district, you would leave a capital between four and a quarter and four find a half millions. :7inne- apolis has only four and three-quarter millions, 2ild but one or two of the other banks have a little over four million; so it can not be said that the desire of the management of the Xansas City bank to retain as large a capital and as larF7e a ;territory in which to do business as possible is a factor to be taken into account in this matter at all, because it was not the purpose of the location of banks to benefit the city whore the banks were to be located, nor the banking business in that city, except as all 1)anking business in the locality woald be benefited. And in conclusion I want to say that the unanimous petition of substantially all the banks in Nebraska and 7yoming is an important factor, and not to be overlooked in this consideration. They know and out to I:now whether it is more convenient for them to do business with Chicago or Zansac City, and they know or our-ht to know whether the curFose for which they exist will be better achieved by joining t7flem with Chicago or Kansas City. Yo qovernor of the Board: Gentlemen, we will take this under a:Idvisement. rogan: :aly I make this request? This brief was Mc prepared by jud3'eflugh and 1,r. Iates, who was chairman of the r. committee, has died recently. Cn account of some important .matters which kept Judge Lici.Lugh•away, he is not able to 1)e here, and I want to present some different points in my monts. airli- I would like the privilep!e of filing an additional supplemental brief along the line 7:hich I have discussed 7J3re. The Governor of the Board: Mr. Brogan: How muci time do you want? I will do it promptly. Tho Governor of the Board: tow much time would you sug- Pest? Mr. iirogan: v.ivio weeks, if that is not too long. The Governor of the Board (to Jud,e Goodrich): Then you I want an opportunity to reply? Judge Goodrich: S http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis This situation of course is one that noeds to be deterilined as speedily as possible, becalse it leaves the situation in a state of uncertainty. The Governor of tl:e Board: ..ould it not be possible for you within two weeks to send brieif an Mr. Brogan: reply? It takes three days to ,Tet nome. The Governor of tl:e Yioard: Of course counsel may mu- tually at ;ree to extend the period to a reaconUle extent; I ' wou1& sugcost ten days or two wees as the time if possible for the preparation of your brief and your connterbrief. Mr. Brogan: Lay I ack if the Oklahoma petition has been postponed? The Governor of the Board: P It will be on the twenty- Urth* en. 2,PL1 arb*.a"{3: The twenty-fifth. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Brogan: I should like to have our brief in b7 time, because I think you will :find it desirable to consider them both by that time at least. The Governor of the Board: Te will leave it with tl- at , understanding, then, th:_A counsel will agree to send their , brief and counter-brief within the time suggested. (:hereu-oon the hearing was 1.djourned.) 81° 8 80° 78 ° 79° 40° 39' 39° Note: 'ryler,and Wetzel Cour.ties transferred fro' the 5th to the 4th F. R. ".1) trict eff:ecti_ve July 1, 191" This transfer affected 5 er banks - all National. 38° WEST VIRGINIA SCALE -STATUTE MILES 0 83° JAN. 1, 1825 http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 82° 81° 80° /0 79° 20 .30 40 SO 78° http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis REM IN FILES SECTION AUG 1 2 1938 2uss"' BEFORE THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ON ETITION OF CERTAIN COUATIES OF THE STATE OF 7EST VIRGINIA TO BE TRAIISFERRED FROM THE FIFTH FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT TO THE FOURTH FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT. Washington, B. C. January 47, 1916. Olt Reportod by Rexford L. Holmes, Silorthand Reporter, 322 Southern Building, Tiadaington, D. C. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 'cY7 (The hearing was convened tA 11:12 o'clock a, in., with the following members of the Board present: Charles Hamlin, the Governor of the Board, F. A. Lelano, . P. G. Harding, Paul M. Warburg, and A. C. Miller.) Hon. Charles S. Hamlin, the Governor of the Board: Gentlemen, the Board will be very glad to hear you now on your petition. Mr. Charles N. Kimball, of Sistersville, -est Virginia, representing the petitioning counties: Gentlemen, I appear before you representing these petitioners. There are three of the petitioning banks present in person, represented by their officers. "e are hero before you repres(nting no great large community )r no considerable financial interests. "e are representing two small counties up in west Virginia and five national banks, these bei, g all of the notional banks in those two counties. We are not here to complain of the location of any reserve bank, but we are here asking to be transferred from one res rye district to another. -e are asking to be 'rans— ferred to a district with which we have always been accusto m— ed to do business, and in which we i)elieve a due re .brd to the course of business in our district dalands that we be placed. Now, I have with me a map which you see here, which will show to you the location of the counties in which these petition— ing ba,lks are located. (Exhibits map to the Board.) ,ebster and Tyler Counties, in which these petitioning banks are located, are shown on this map shaded yellow; they are in the extreme http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis northwestern portion of the Fifth District. 'loins 2ennsylvania. 7:ebster County ad- The northern bonndaly line of 'Tebster County is also the southern boundary line of the Fourth District; the western boundary of Aabster and Tyler Countie,1 is the Ohio ?dirt:x.1 The dividing line between eat Virginia and Ohio is also the western boundary line of the Fourth District. Yhose two counties have always been intimately connected with the Panhandle Counties ' 7e are virtually Panhandle Counties, although not within the Panhandle. The red lines here (indicating on map) show the rail.... roads running from 3istersville, by which we are connected with Washington and Richmond. The blue lines are the connecting lines with Cleveland, Ohio. we are standing (The members of the Board, together with counsel, were standing up to examine the map counsel was explaining), to make it brief, the distansle from 6istersville, which is the furthermost point from Cleveland by the shortest route, is 1P2 miles; by the shortest route to Richmond it is 517 miles. A letter posted at 6istersville after banking hours will not reach Richmond until after banking hours the succeeding day. It is in Cleveland before banking hours the following morning. The distance and means of communication are such that a traveler can leave Oistersville, go to Cleveland, and return, in the same tile that it would take a letter to go Jr:roll 3istersville to Richmond. The time and distance is on or about the ratio of one to three. The distance is about three tiles as great to Richmond as to Cleveland. The ti 10 taken in travel is about three times as great to Richmond as to Cleveland. he railroad fare to Cleveland is one-third' less: than tha railroad fare to Richmond. The same ratio applies to long-distance telephone. The long-distance telephone rate from Sistersville to Richmond is three dollars for three minutes, and one dollar per minute for each additional minute; while to Cleveland it is one dollar for throe minutes, and thirty cents for each additional minute. The same ratio applies to telegrams. To Cleveland we have a twenty-five cent rate for ten words, and two cents for each additional word; to Richmond a telegram rate of fifty cents for ten words, and three cents for each additicinal word. Now, briefly, that sums up the location with relation to distance and time of connection between the two points. Now we base our petition for change from the Fifth District to the Pcurth District, first, upon the fact of our near proximity to Cleveland, and the Cleveland distrct; scc -md, upon our ,rent distance, comparatively speaking, and the difficulty of communication, between our district and the Richmond district; third, upon the fact that our businea. inte,.t.,..‘ts and commercial connections have always been and ere vjith the cities and towns - nd banks in the Fourth District; fourth, upon the fact that "due regardto the convenience and customary course of business" demands that petitioners be placed in the Fourth District; and fiftl ,) upon the proposition tha the Federal Reserve Act was passed in aid of trade, and not in restraint of trade, and upon the fact that that ),ct expressly declare that the districts shall • http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis be apportioned with clue regard to the convenience and customary http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4. 7s) course of business. Now, gentlemen, West Virginia is o small tate, and proba- bly extends over a grerter proportion of territory in proportion to its area than ,/ly other state in the Union. It has an ex- treme east and west width of 270 miles, and extends north and south 250 ;dies. Its northern extremity extends twenty-five N.. miles north of the latitude of 2ittsburgh, Pennsylvania; its southern extremity extends to a latitude fifty miles south of that of Richmond. Virginia. , about fifteen miles Its eastern longitude extends to a point Of t of the city of Richmond, and its west- ern longitude extends to a lonitude twenty miles east of the city of Columbus, so JOR see we are pretty largely distributed over the face of the map, although we are ,) small state, something like a few hundred over twenty-four thousrrnd square miles. Now, we have been placed in the Richmond _District. we should e placed in the Fourth District. 'e believe Our ;ileans of com- munication .11d our busines,, we believe, demand that we should be placed in that district. :Tow, in looking over the proceedings befor your honorable body, I have noticed that the Richmond .fief at no time -Ind in no place had in mind taking in any part of oct Virginia in 'est Virginia; the Fifth District other than the southern part of 7 but the .ntire ,itate has been place, in the Fourth District, wit the exception of Hancock, Brook, Ohio, and ::arshall Counties, a the four counties who: e boundries show are actually Panhandle Counties. Now, the two counties of -ebster and Tyler are in http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis r the Ohio River County. We are virtually Panhandle Counties, and not four counties in the Fourth District; and Wheeling, the largest city of the ,3tate, end the industrial center of the northern portion of west Virginia, is only thirty-seven miles from Few Martinsville, and forty from Sistersville, and is city with which we are commercially closely connected. burgh is 116 miles away. he 2itts- Three of the petitioning banks are e located in Tyler County, three of them in Sisters- ine; no, four are in Tyler County, and three of them are in Sistersville, represented here in person by their officers. One of them is at Middlebourne, the county seat, ten miles back in the county. The other petitioning bank is located at 14ew Martinsville, which is thirty-seven miles frola Theeling. e are in the same senatorial district with narshal] County, and politically, commercially, and geographically, we belong with the 2anhandle Counties between the Ohio liver valley and the Richmond district. We have the range of hills or mountains called the Ohio :iver Hills and the Blue Ridge and Allegheney Mountains. 7e have - no means or lines of communicating with the eastward portion of the United States from the Vest irginia 7istrict except where a stre-m cleaves or cuts the ranges, and you will notice 1 our railroads running east and west in ::est Virginia, all run up the Little Kanawk8, up the Large Xanawka, and down the Big Sandy in the southern end. Our most usual means of reaching Richmond and the manner in which mail is sent is either to Taleeling and out the J3ltimore and Ohio east to Washington and http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 . to Parkersburg, or over the ,wltimore and Ohio to —ashington, or it LI posible for the traveler to go to joint Pleasant and out to Charleston, and take the Chesapeake and Ohio to Richmond east to quntington, and take the 1Torfolk and estirn to :lichmmd, but those routes are so long and so much time is required to make such a journey that that route is impracticable. Now, in starting to 7ashthgton or 2.ichmoild from Sisters— ville or Hew i 7artinsville, it is necessary to take the Ohio River route and go north to :haeling 47 miles, and there change cars or to take the Ohio :diver south to larkersburg, and change cars and go east. The running ti ,e I have given you, gentlemen, thFA is necessary, or the time that it takes to reach Richmond, is the actual running title. It is not the actual tirae that it would take a letter totravel that distance, for the reason that there are several hours lost in making connections either at Parkers— burg or at , heeling, to the Cleveland (istrict. north to ';heeling. We have thre We go ciroctly "e have five trains each day to 7herling. lines of rsilrou6 running fro, ,holing to Cleveland, -- the Baltimore Ohio, the heeling and Lake Erie, and the Pennsylvania; or we can go from Sistersville or New 'artinsville to ?ittsburg, .L?enrisylvnnia, 116 miles away, and we ,ave the Pennsylvania Railroad, and the ,heeling and Lake Erie, and several other routes, to go to Cleveland, which is probably the most convenient wry for a traveler to go, but the mail I understand goes to ;;heeling and is sent out over these lines to Cleveland, so that so far as distance in miles JP, http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis is concerned, the position of ,dstersville, New liartinsville, and these petitioning banks demands that they be placed in the Cleveland district. 3o far as the distance in hours and minnter is concerned, the same demand is made, because the actual running ti e, the actual time taken in going from Sistersville to Cleveland by mail or by a traveler is actually one-third that that it takes the same traveler or mail to go from ,istersville to Richmond. s In other words, it t kes from 6-1, to 7 hours to ro from Sistorsville to Cleveland, while to Richmond 17 hours is the shortest actual running time that the distance can be made in, and that is the actml running time, and not the nctu-1 time it would take because of the several hours that would be lost in making connections at iarkersburg or at 'heeling. From :iistersvillo to Cleveland via 'heyling and the 'heclins and Lake Erie is but 99 miles; that would be going from iistersville to Wheeling and out this road here (indicating on 1 i map), which is but 99 miles with running time of 71 -to 8 hours. Sist.rsville to Cleveland via Yheeling and the Pennsylvania Railroad is 182 miles, or 7 hours. via :hoolin ,;iste2sville to Cleveland, and the Bniti ore and Ohio Railroad, is 209 miles, six hours and forty-five minutes; Sisto_.sville to Cleveland, via littsburgh and the Pennsylvania Railroad, is 264 miles; 7-: hours to j ; hours. To Richmond by way of Pitts- burgh and the Baltimore and Ohio to reach Richmond by Parkers- http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 • burg is 522 mile, with on actual running time of 17 hours; to ,-dchmond bj way of Theeling, the distance is 517 miles, an actual running time of 17 hours. ith One can also go to Parkers- burg and :lashington, and thence to Richmond, with the distance of 534 miles, or running time of 18 hours, while the distance by way of the 21easant, and Kanawha, and the Chesapeake and Ohio, is 551 mile, or a distance of sixteen hours and twentythree minutes. By way of Huntington, Kanawha, and the Norfolk and Western is 729 miles, or a running time of over twentythree hours, -- twenty-three hours and fifty-eight minutes. But those, lien• as I have stated, those routes are so long that they are entirely impracticable. The Governor of the Board: May I ask, would you be sub- jected to the same disadvantage, in your opinion, if Washington or Baltimore had been designated? Lve they about as unfavorably situated? Mr. Kimball: No, sir; they are not. Washington would have been preferable, and Baltimore would have been also, because our banks carry as it is, but I will touch on the business relations in a moment. The Governor of the Board: Cleveland and 2ittsburg, •••••• Well, I mean, with regard to would they be nearer than 'ashing-- ton or Baltimore? Mr. Kimball: Yes, sir. The Governor of the Board: So that what you say would apply equally to Washington and Baltillore? http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Csi Mr. Kimball: Not to an entirely equal degree. The Governor of the Board: Mr. Kimball: Hot to an equal degree? No, sir; because Baltimore would be just as much nearer to us than Baltiore is to 'ashington, rather thr,n Richmond. The Governor of the Board: Mr, Kimball: Yes. There would be jut thwt difference on this end. The Governor of the Board: J That I want to get at is t- lis: Would this petition have been filed by you if either or Balti,lore had been designated? ashington — ould you still feel your proper place was in the Fourth Disifict? Hr. Kimball: ;Tr. Jackson, what would you say? 1:r. A. C. Jackson, 2rosident o-P the first Hational Bank, Sist, rsville, 7es1; Virgi ia: Yes; I believe it would. —e believed or business connections are such that we all voted for Zittsburgh as a reserve point, for the reserve b nk, and our vote was unanimously for Eittsburgh as opposed to Cleveland, but Cleveland is much more satisfactory than either ashington or Baltimore would be, for the reason that The Governor of the Board (to ;Ir. Kimball): I did not want to interrupt you, Mr. Jackson (continuing): our business is of 4 nature that we are more in touch with Pittsburgh than Cleveland, e are in the oil and gas busiAers, and they are also, so we are very °lonely connected, and for twenty years we have kept our http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis principal reserves in 2itt3burgh. -e hive very intimate relations with those banks. Mr. Kimball: Now, just answering your question, or touch-- ing on th'It phase or feature of it, the business Tel:-Lions of the Ohio Valley, and particularly of these two counties, are al,aost identical with those of the -heeling .1nd 2ittsburgh dis trict, and to a certain e7ztent with those of the Cleveland. district. Our business in the Ohio Valley here has been almost exclusively with -- connected with -- the oil and gas business, and also with the manufacture of glxss, and steel mills. are the industries in the Ohio Valley. Those They are the same in- Cov,tries upon which the banking business of Theeling depends, and also Livt of 2ittsburgh, and to a great extent that of Clcveland. littsburgh has bon the head of the oil and gas busines:, for many years. 6istersville, est Virginia, has been the head of the oil and gas ousinoss in the .tate of '7est Virginia ever since oil and gas hav,, been found in that State. Our banking has been done in :heeling and 2ittsburgh, because of the similarity of the business in which the two sections have been In the Wheeling district and 'heeling the industries manufacture and the manuare ol and gas production, glam t arc the same induF,tries facture of steel and of piping, an: those two counties in which that v,e hove in our o;a1 section, in these engaged. these banks are located. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis , All of these companies, all of t:,e oil comnr flies that produce oil, -- and I think that I am correct in saying all, -- maintain their head offices in Pittsburg, Thnnsylvania, a few of them have their main offices in Cleveland, Ohio; and all of those companies Day their rentals to the farmers on their loses in checks on littsburg banks and on the 7heeling banks, ad those checks may go through our banks, and their royalties are paid in like manner, and when oil is purchased by the pipe line companies, it is paid for by chocks on the Pittsburg banks. Mr. Jackson: in Pittsburg. The books for the ell coml-Tnies are kept When we sell oil, they wire Iittsburg to get our balances, so the books are kept tl ere, and also a large portion of the gas which is consumed in the cities of Pittsburg, Theelino;, and Cleveland, comes from our county, or is transported by pipe line to those cities. Kimball: Some of the largest, -- or the lrrgest gas pumping station in the world is located in Webster County, and the gas that supplies as 7'r. Jackson has stated -- the gcs that supplies Cleveland and Pittsburg is largely produced in these two counties. The gas not produced there at least passes thron3h our counties in being transported to these two cities, and the direction of our business is all toward Pittsburg and toward the ClevelRnd district. Now, I shall not attempt this mornins to touch on the banking Questions, or ham these banks would be iprticully http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 11 at affedted by carrying their reserves at Richmond instead of have Cleveland, because I assume that in the arguments that already then place before you those questions have been pretty well threshed out, and would apply perhaps to these banks as well as to the banks for which the arguments have already been made. raw, as showing the line of business we have, in our printed brief, thereappears a statement of the business of a certain period with these banks, showing the business of these banks with the Pittsburg district, in comparison with the Richmond district, during the last week. These five petitioning banks have kept an account of their items, and will desire to file a copy of this with you this morning. During the week of January 18th to the 23d those five banks had only twelve items on the Fifth District outside of —est Virginia, amounting to 213.55. The items -- the other items on the Fifth District, -- all items of ';:ebster, Harrison, Tyler, and Pleasant° Counties, including the two petitioning banks ( with the two adjoinin 7, counties, -- we had 517 items, amounting to 0_7,542.50. The items from all other West Virginia points in the Fifth District, -- we had 135 items, or c5,152.37. :au that made a total on the :Fifth District of 664 items, amounting to 22,928.42. But it must be remembered that only twelve of those items, amounting to ;'.213, are in .est Virginia, the Fifth District outside of the State of . and that 517 of them were from the two petitioning counties and two adjoining counties now in the Fourth District. These http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis banks had 50 items, with 0_35,000 -- (135,337.85, on the Fourth District. That shows in a measure the trend of business, our "due course of business" in this section, and we think if the act is to be followed, which states that the banks are to be loccted with "due regard to the convenience and customary course of business", that then the customary course of our business in this section demands that we shall be placed in the rourth District. Now, as I have stated in my opening remarks, we have no complaint to make whatever —ith regard to the location of the reserve banks. It is purely a business question with us as to which district our business demands that we be placed in, and we think that the ordinary course of our business, both past and present, shows that we are closely allied with the Fourth District, and therefore that we should be placed in that district. If you gentlemen have any questions to ask, we will do our best to answer them, but we think this briefly states our case, and the map shows our location geographically. The fi:7 , :ures I have given you, and the figures appearing in our brief here, show conclusively where the bulk of our business would indicate we should be placed. Dr. A. C. Miller, a Member of the Board: Have any of these other counties in the western section of West Virginia shown a disposition to join you? Mr. Kimball: Dr. Miller: Not that I am aware of. Is not the argument you have made applicable http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis also to Pleasants County? It might be applicable to Pleasants County. Yr. Kimball: The Governor of the Board: Will you just point out the other counties? Here they are here (indicating on the map). 11±. Kimball: The sume would apply also to these. There is only one national bank in Plec:s- Mr. Jackson: ants County. M. Kimball: In several counties. Yr. Jackson: The president of that bank called me up the other evening and inquired about our case before the Federal Reserve Board, and said they would be very glad to be placed in the Fourth District also, but had not started any proceeding. Hon. Paul M. Warburg, a Member of the 3oard: Thy did they not join you? did not ask them, because Webster and Yr. Kimball: Tyler Counties are close together, and we did not ask them. Dr. Miller: Are the industries in Pleasants County of large consenuence? Mr. Kimball: Oil and gas is all. 7e have no manufac- tures. Dr. Miller: And only one national bank. Hon. W. P. G. Harding, a !:ember of the Board: In case a branch is established at Parkersburg, how about it then? Yr. Jackson: Parkersburg is forty-seven miles away. http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 14 Parkersburg as from Wheeling. 7:0 are the same distance from be more convenient for Yr. Kimball: Cleveland would us than Charleston. Mr. Jackson: Yes, Cleveland would be more convenient. -r. :imball: : We have to go over two lines of railroad to get to Charleston. All of the counties, some one s of rest Virginia in asked the question about the countie Virginia is in the Fifth the Fourth District, -mall of 7;est from -it 1:istrict 0:Keel these four counties here; running virtually. these are the four Panhandle Counties, Geograpi- le as these ically, we are as much a -part of the Panhand counties are tLemsclves. River. e are in the valley of the Ohio Our industries are e::actly the same. 7e are closely connected by railroad connection, telegraph, telephone, and the configuration of the country. 7est Virginia is a very rough state. The Governor of the DcKret: That is the outline of West Virginia and Virginia? Mr. map). ':cst Virginia runs here (indicating on -ryland; that comes in here; this is the rest This is :' Virginia line, and the Ohio River is here (inOicr)ting on The Governor of the Board: Dr. Mr. Rimball: Yes. It runs up there in the Panhandle, does it? Yes, This red line, which is the Lc,ltimore and Ohio Rvilro?,d (indicatinr on trlep), is also the boundary line of riept VirginiP,. I can not see now; it runs here (in- http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis dicating). The Governor of the Board: That is the line between Virginia and - est Virginia (indicating on map)? Ilrr, Kimball: Yes, sir; no, here it is (indic.Yting on map). The Governor of the Board: Mr. Kimball: Oh, yes. It comes down here; this is the Yaryland line here (indicating on map). But all of rest Virginia is in the rifth District, with the exception of tiose four counties there, and we are just as much a part of that Panhandle as those counties themselves. The Ohio River here (indicating on map) is very rough a few miles back, and mountainous, and as I said, no rLilroads ran through except along the bed of a stream. It is impossible for them to get through. Some gentleman asked Tie if the arguments we have advanced would be equally true as regards the other counties we have mentioned. They ;:ould be true as to Pleasants County, but not to 7,00d or the other counties south, because they are on the main line of the Baltimore and Ohio east. ':je are on a line of the Baltimore and Ohio runninh; from hanawha up . the Ohio River to Pittsburg, and the Baltimore and Ohio cast runs out as shown by this line here, fnd the Yanawha, and Chesapeake and Ohio and those lines there. Dr. :hat is the approximate capital of the banks represented? hr. rimball: I am glad you asked that question. This http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 16 transfer can be made without throwing out of balance the capital of the reserve bank at Richmond. The combined capital and undivided profits of the five banks is 031,000. Their subscription to the reserve bank at :ichmond is something over 01,000. The Governor of the Board: r. 2.imbell: Lre there any other auestions? Doctor, is there anything else, or :"r. achson, that you would like me to speak about? Dr. G. 3. west, Zresident of the People's National Bank, Sistersville, West Virginia (residing at 3464 Macomb Street, Cleveland lark, Cashington, B. C.): I think there is nothing else. 3 -r. Jackson: I think not. I believe you have covered the ground very thorouGhl. The Governor of the Board: I have a letter from 7r. Hum- ton (referring to Yr. Eppa runton, counsel representing tt:e Reserve Bank for the Fifth a)istrict, of Richmond, Virginia). Perhaps he has advised yotu-r. Zimball: Hi liL.rtner did. The Governor of the l';or_rd (continuing) -- that he will not be here, and th) t he will simply file a brief. lir. Kimball; I feel like apologizing to the Board because I have not perhaps been more logical, or presented this matter in a clearer manner, but I feel souiewhat handicapped by the fact that we are rather overshadowed in this case by the great importance of the other cases that you gentlemen have heerd; but this case is as imortant to us --to tl'oEle five banks -- as the other cases have been to those petitioning bodies. Now I desire to file with you sentlemen, -- I have only two copies here, -- of the statement of the last two of these five b‘riThs, thawing the items on the Fourth District an0 on the Vifth District, as well au the tables showing the distances and time of connection. The Governor of the l'oard: uill you send a copy to the counsel on the other side? r. i:lmball: I will do so. i would like to have a cory made for each member of the Board, nd you will , ve them to I refer to. The "Jovernor of the Beard: That is L11 right; keep those then, aria mail ttem to u$. Mr. Kimball: We will do so. The uovernor of the Board: Gentlemen, we will take this under consideration, and advise you. r. himball: Would you care to nava that map, gentlemen? The Governor of the Board: the map. I think WG woul like to have :e can return it, .you ,„3- ow. a 3"r. iamball: Gentlemen, I would like you to keep in mind this point, in considering this transfer, and that is, the identity of the business 'with our businesc, of the locality that our bLn1:6 are situated in with the business of the Fourth District. i Ile 'ousiness that we are engaged in is almost ex- elusively the oil and gas business. Ville in years past, 'V http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Our business in Sisters- I think I will be correct in saying http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 18 has been dependent exclusively on the oil and gas business. Yr. Jackson: In fret, there would never have been any banks there had it not been for the oil and gas business. , r. :7im1f- 11: bank. 7e have four banks there. One is a state Listersville Las only four thousand inhabitants. The L eapitel stock of each of our four ban- s is c375,000, so you must see there has been a considerable business there, considering the size o1' the town, to warrant the establishment of those four banks. nr. Jackson: The deposits in the four banks are about 1•••• over two cnd one-half million. Tr.nmbell: And underst:nd this is due almost exclusive- ly to the oil and gas business, the - entale ti:e people receive, 2 the payment of royalties, and money in payment for the oil. The oil is purchased by the 3trudard companies, and as we have said to you, their offices are in :ittsburg, and payments are always made in checks on :2ittsburg banks, and i would like to add to what I have said, that, according to the Oomptroller's report, none of our banks, I believe, carries any accounts in Richmond. The Governor of tne Board: :lone of them? 7.T. Walter R. Reitz, Cashier of tne Farmers and Producers Eational Bank, Oistersville, West Virginia: is carried in baltimore. we will be handicapTod. One small account That is tile point where we uelieve :e will receipt tne Federal Eeserve Bank in Rienmond for a nuLloer of items, and have nothing on the Ilfth District; all our items will be on the Fourth http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 19 District unless they collect items on the Fifth District, cnd that would take four days. Pr. _Kimball: I would like to call abtention to this lion. if. i. 1)01ano, a timber of the Board: is thcii. in your map? fc, the map showing the location of 1,1r. barli.z:s carrying accounts with the l'.ichmonci banks and trust companies. ilow this i Vest Virginia here (indicating on map), end here is the .Panhaladle, ind our two counties c.re located taere 1.A7,7 that •.,;11l give you gentlemen pn idea ot the banks carrying accounts. The .=-)vernor of the dorCt: 1,ha t is the number of that reference, -- the ;2enate Document? It is Idoeument 435,, the location of federal reservi district banks. The (iov)rnor of the Bord: .ye have tha same information;. I wanted to look that up. Yr.h1mbi.11: I will be ver;/ glad. to leave tills with you. Now, the:e is C.7.1 other map I desire to call sour attention to ,.7.1.,10, and t ,t to a mai) of the vote taken on the loction of the reserveb&nk. , Our counties are located right there (indicating on nap). The all ^ lovexiii..r of the .6ov..rd: - Vie Nvill carefully consider this, Lnd ;;1 advise L7ou later. - http://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis . 7 Ai:, ;1,