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Branches and Avnt3 in all Principal Ciao https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis L. E. Birdzell, General Counsel, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Hearings — H. R. 5357 de-4./ 9.3,r ihat we conteniplate Now a permanent insurance extended to nonmember banks, it is of course appropriate that there be an express provision in the permanent act authorizing the examination of banks, so that is provided for in the eighth paragraph, which enumerates the powers of the Corporation, where before it was contained in subsection (y). There is further provision made in paragraph 2, below that, on page 16. Then, on page 17, there is express provision for access by the Corporation to the examinations made by the Comptroller of the Currency, and also to the reports of examinations of any Federal Reserve member bank. • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. CROWLEY. I do not think that is correct, Mr. Congressman. What I really said was this, that if we were to be given certain supervisory powers we could protect ourselves. You might go back to 1920, when you had 30,000 banks. We lost nearly 15,000 banks from 1920 to 1933. A great many of our overbanked conditions have been washed out. If we do not make the same mistakes as before and do not let this overbanked condition come back again, and if we can protect ourselves by going into a weakened institution and perhaps buying the assets or absorbing losses in order that mergers can be brought about, we are going to get away with a much lower loss. If we are given power to protect ourselves from loss, then I believe that this corporation can get along with a reasonable income. On the other hand, if we are just going to drift as in the last few years, then I do not believe you can assess against the good banks sufficient money to take care of the weaker banks without crippling the capacity of the good banks to write off their losses currently. When it is all said and done the strength of the fund depends upon the banks being so well run and their earning capacity being sufficient to allow them to take their losses currently in place of letting them accumulate. I think everyone will agree that a good fnany banks permitted their losses to accumulate. Some of these banks even paid dividends, whereas they should have written off their losses. I think that this fund should eventually build a sufficiently large surplus so that in the ordinary regional depressions—not a depres1933--this fund could pay its losses promptly without maksion ing an assessment against the Government or the banks. fi ,/ Mr. CROWLEY. We have had in here 22 State commissioners for conferences on the matter of examinations and related topics. Let me say that in the matter of rebuilding capital, in the matter , 1\ I of local contributions, time after time we have had a State commis- I sioner come to us and ask us to exert our influence, because on account of local conditions he could not do it, and he has asked the Federal ' ) Deposit Insurance Corporation to exert pressure in order to put that bank back in shape. So far as that examining program is concerned, every State corn. missioner who -vvants a good State banking system will agree that if we are going to carry such a high percentage of liability we have to have ways and means of protecting ourselves. Let me say this to you: That in the large percentage of the State banks we are insuring them better than 70 percent. I think that there I are some 9,600 that we are insuring up to 80 percent. That is a tremendous responsibility. 1, • Now, on the matter of burglary insurance, the reason we asked for that is that a good many of the States have no legislation at all that / 9 Leo T. Crowley, Chairman, and L. E. Birdzell, General Counsel, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Hearings - H. R. 5357 • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis gives the Commissioner the power to force a bank to carry a reasonable amount of insurance on its officers or employees. Already, out of the 11 banks where we have paid out, we have had a very unfortunate experience. If they had had some adequate insurance, it would have helped the stockholders very materially. We do not propose, you understand, to do that in the case of a wholesale majority and put an unnecessary burden on those banks. We must be reasonable in all of our demands. Mr. GIFFORD. I am wondering what the cost of those things will be to the bank and what you insure them against? Mr. CROWLEY. We certainly do not want to pay for all of their mistakes without having any right to try to get them to correct them. Mr. GIFFORD. Do you want them to insure themselves against every conceivable thing, so that your corporation will not have any liability ? Mr. CROWLEY. No; but where they have not sufficient burglary insurance and protection and sufficient surety coverage on their employees, I see no reason why they should not carry it as a matter of protection to themselves and their own stockholders. . Mr. GIFFORD. Do you think that it is a fair treatment, and do you I think that it is a safe treatment of a bank to demand of it a certain kind of report, and if it does not publish it in 5 days, to fine them $100 a day ? Mr. CROWLEY. I think that you are exaggerating that a little bit. The purpose of the authority to publish reports is this, that a great many of your bank statements in the past did not really show the true conditions of the banks. Mr. GIFFORD. Whose fault was that? Mr. CROWLEY. I think it was the fault of the entire system. Mr. GIFFORD. Do you mean to say that our present national bank system is not sufficient to show the true condition of the banks? Mr. CROWLEY. You take the.old condensed statements gotten out by national banks and State banks for years; they did not show the market value of their bonds or the reasonable value of their loans. j Mr. GIFFORD. Did not they show the last demand of the bank I examiner in connection with the market value of those things? Mr. CROWLEY. Oh, no; that has never been in a statement. Let me say this to you. I think that you are starting out on a different basis now. We are starting out anew, with the banking system practically rebuilt and values yvay down. _ Mr. GIFFORD. Do you not see that you are adding considerably to the present burden of the banks by way of these examinations, and, secondly, that these examinations may be so irritating that many banks would rather not belong? Mr. CROWLEY. No. The great majority of the banks give to our examiners every kind of cooperation, and do not seem to be irritable because we are trying to get a true picture of their institutions. Mr. GIFFORD. Then your answer would be that they would not object to these things? Mr. CROWLEY. A certain percentage, yes, would object, but I do not believe that that is the answer. Our corporation was set up for the protection of depositors, not for the protection of the bankers. We are trying to cut the losses to the depositors and of this corporation down to a minimum, and that is what our job it. Leo T. Crowley and L. E. Birdzell - Paae 2 Mr. BROWN of Michigan. I am .a little bit disturbed about what might be a duplication, or even a triplication, of the duties performed by your corporation, the Comptroller's office, and the Federal Reserve Board. Now, in your very clear statement which you gave to us on du. first day, and of which we all have copies, you said on page 26-In the future the Corporation should devote a large part of its efforts to the maintenance of sound conditions among the insured institutions. • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Now,it seems to me that that clearly defines just what the duty of the Comptroller of the Currency now is. Am I right about that, or wrong? Mr. CROWLEY. Do you mean in the case of a national bank ? Mr. BROWN of Michigan. Yes. Mr. CROWLEY. The only authority that we have, Mr. Brown, over a national bank or a State member bank is that we have the power to put them out of the fund just the same as a State bank, after notifying the Comptroller and the Federal Reserve Board, just as we notify the State supervisor. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. I think that your power is greater than that. You not only have the power to put them out of the fund, but upon your determination that they should be out of the fund, the statute is mandatory that both a member of the Federal Reserve System and a national bank shall then be suspended. Is not that true? Mr. BIRDZELL. That would be correct. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. If you once determined that a bank cannot reniain a member of your fund, then the Federal Reserve Board must suspend that bank and the Comptroller must appoint you as receiver. Mr. BiRbzELL. No; the Federal Reserve Board must see that the bank is no longer in the Federal Reserve System, and in the case of a national bank, of course it would result in liquidation. Mr. CROWLEY. You understand, the Federal Reserve Board has no authority to appoint a receiver for a State member bank. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. I understand that. It will appoint your Corporation, or, if you do not care to take it, some other suitable person as receiver. In other words, in the power that you have asked, you will have absolute authority in your board of directors to suspend any bank in the United States if it is a member of your Corporation. Mr. CROWLEY. I do not think that there is any duplication there. I think that we are the only ones that have that power. Mr. BaowN of Michigan. Of course, the national bank department has that power with respect to national banks. Mr. CROWLEY. There is no particular reason why we should not have the same control of putting a bank out of the fund, be it a Federal Reserve member bank or a State bank, if they are not conducting themselves in a manner that is going to give to this Corporation the usual safeguards. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. Well, I think that is true, but I am saying that that gives you the same power that the Comptroller now has over national banks and that the Federal Reserve Board now has over Federal Reserve banks. Mr. CROWLEY. No; the only power that the Federal Reserve Board has over a State bank is that if they do not conduct themselves properly, they may put them out of the Federal Reserve System, but there they stay, Mr. BROWN of Michigan. That is right. Mr. CROWLEY. Now, then, the power that we have over the State banks is just the same as the Federal Reserve Board has over the ,y34— Leo T. Crowley and L. E. Birdzell — Page 3 • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis State banks, but we carry ours further, and we ask for the power also over a national bank, that we may put them out of the fund. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. But it does seem to me that we certainly have a duplication there of power. In the temporary plan or the permanent plan as it now exists, for instance, in the matter of examinations of banks, you have to accept the examinations of the Office of the Comptroller. Mr. CROWLEY. That is right. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. And the only examinations which you are empowered to make now under existing law are examinations of nonmember banks. Mr. CROWLEY. That is correct. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. Now, on page 18 of the bill, I think it is, you ask for the power to examine all banks--Mr. CROWLEY. No. Mr. BROWN of Michigan (continuing). With the consent of the Comptroller. Mr. CROWLEY. May I explain that to you, Mr. Brown? Mr. BROWN of Michigan. Yes. Mr. CROWLEY. The reason for that is this. Supposina that the Comptroller or the Federal Reserve Board has a bank which ia in difficulty ; under our law, we have asked you for the authority to buy assets for the purpose of mergers. We may wish to go in with the Comptroller or the Reserve Board and make an examination to knovv the position of the bank, in order to try to determine upon a program that will prevent us from taking too great a loss. In other words, we will go into a bank with a million dollars in deposits and buy $250,000 of undesirable assets, and the Comptroller would merge that with $750,000 in another bank,and that would save us the liqui• dation of a million-dollar liability where we would be getting off with $250,000. Do you get my point? Mr. BROWN of Michip.an. I get your point, but--Mr. CROWLEY. In order to do that, we have to have the authority to go into a national bank, and we are only asking for that where the Comptroller is agreeable that we should' go in with him on that r) position. .,Ir. BROWN of Michigan. But it seems to me that even at the resent time, under existing law, where we have a group of nationalbank examiners under jurisdiction of the Federal Reserve Board, and a group of national-bank examiners under the jurisdiction of the Comptroller, each having different duties, we must bear in mind that we are here establishing a third group of national-bank examiners under your control, with power, I grant you, only upon the consent of the Comptroller to examine national and member banks of the Federal Reserve Sys'tem. Now, mv point is this, that it seems to me that the three departments ought to get together to see if we cannot consolidate you all into what seems to me to be a logical organization governing all the national banks of the United States. If we cannot do that, we at least ought to consolidate these three boards or bureaus into one examining division, that would have authority to examine for all three of these governmental bureaus, and it just strikes me that the legis- / lation is ill-conceived in that respect. We have that provision now with respect to the Federal Reserve Board and the Comptroller's office. Perhaps I ought to say that I think that your Corporation is an illogical Government organization or bureau to undertake that work, but it does seem to me that you are placing an unnecessary burden upon national banks and member banks and forcing them to pay the expenses of examinations which certainly will be more numerous than they have been in the past. It seems to me that you are by this act diversifying the power and authority that the Comptroller s office has over bank examiners. Now,if this office is not the right office to handle the matter of the examination of national banks, let us turn it over to you or to the Federal Reserve Board, but let us not have three different groups of national-bank examiners. 1 Leo T. Crowley and L. E. Birdzell - Page 4 • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. CROWLEY. Mr. BrOW11 Mr. BROWN of Michifran. I believe that it is illogical. Mr. CROWLEY. I do nobt think that you would have any three groups of national-bank examiners, to • this extent, that we have examined only State banks. Now, there is no way under the present law that anyone else can examine a State bank except the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the State supervisor. Mr. BrowN of Michigan. That is true but let me interrupt you to say that if the law is enacted as you and your Corporation want it to be enacted, that is with the elimination of nonmember State banks from the Federal Reserve Corporation, then the argument that you are just inaking would not apply ? Mr. CROWLEY. That is correct. Let me say to you that there is no duplication of Federal examination At this time. I inean by that that the Comptroller examines the national banks, the Federal Reserve Board examines only the Federal Reserve member banks, and we examine only the State banks. Let me add, on this matter of examination, that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation cannot be put off here all by itself and not be permitted to use the usual precautions that will be necessary in order to keep this fund sound.. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. You have all of that authority under the existing law. Mr.' CROWLEY. We have not the authority to do this. All of the help that we have had so far has been in going into the banks and working with the State commissioner and, by moral persuasion, getting the banks to build their capital, make their application to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, and things like that. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. When you made that statement I was inclined to disagree with you. You made it, in your opening statement. On page 13 of the oriainal act it provides"that such certification to the Corporation by trie'State banking coinmissioner that the bank is in a solvent condition shall, after examination by and with the Corporation, be entitled" and so forth. I grant you that great pressure was brought upon you to be liberal about that, but you had no legal right under the law to admit any bank that was not solvent, and, of course, that means solvent not only as to its deposit liability, but solvent as to its capital. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Leo T. Crowley and L. E. Birdzell — Page 5 (-)\ . Mr. FORD. Now, in connection with these examinations, there have been repeated charges made that there were three classes of examinations made of banks. First they said that the F. D. I. C. made them, and then that the Comptroller made them, and then that the R. F. C. made them, and that each one of the examinations called for a different standard as to the classification of assets, and that they never knew where they were. I would just like to ask, is there any basis for that charge? Mr. CROWLEY. Let me say to you that we have never examined a national bank and have no authority to do so. The law specifically says that we shall accept the Comptroller's examination. I believe that we 'have attempted, in the entire Federal Service, to try to classify assets as nearly uniformly as possible. The R. F. C., on the matter of State banks, has always taken the examination of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. The only time that they have ever sent a man in was where there had been some difficulty arising, where perhaps they already had an investment, or where, when we made our examination and found that perhaps the bank needed additional aid, or something like that, they have gone in with us and tried to work out that situation. There has been no harassing by duplicate examinations of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the R. F. C. The R. F. C., except in those unusual cases, has taken the examination of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Mr. FORD. I was very certain that that was the case, but I wanted to get that in the rec,ord. Mr. BIRDZELL. May I just add to that one thing that is just an impression with me, but I am quite certain that I am correct in asserting it. I think that about 2 months ago the Reconstruction Finance Corporation announced that it would no longer examine banks, but would take the examinations of our Corporation, of the Federal Reserve Board, and of the Comptroller. Is not that true? Mr. CROWLEY. They have been doing it. Mr. BIRDZELL. I think that they made a formal announcement of that. That is an impression that I have, and we can all check it. Mr. CROWLEY. Except this, that they do reserve the right to protect their investments. Mr. SissoN. You mean that they have taken the Comptroller's examination? Mr. BIRDZELL. If. they go into a national bank, they take the Comptroller's examination, and if they go into a State bank that we are interested in, they take ours. They did that with the idea that it would remove the criticism with respect to examinations so far as they were concerned. Mr. WILLIAMS. Has that been the policy all the time? Mr. BIRDZELL. It has been the policy quite largely. J. F. T. 0/Connor, Comptroller of the Currency Hearings - H. P. 5357 i https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. GIFFORD. You say here that there has been considerable controversy and misunderstanding with referenoe to the examination of banks; that they may have been harassed by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation's examinations, by the Federal Deposit Insurance examinations, though you examine but twice a year, but, while they were only supervisory examinations, they probably did intimidate and perhaps harass some banks by so many of these examinations. Mr. O'CoNNoR. First, Mr. Gifford— Mr. GIFFORD. Comment on that, please, on the slow loans. Mr. O'CorricoR. There is no harassment of banks by several inations. No national-bank officer in the United States, at noexamand at no place, has made criticism of a duplication of examina time because no such thing exists. The only man who has authoritions step into a national bank to examine it is an examiner fromty tc; the Comptroller's office, and you have provided by law that we must make at least two examinations a year. No other examiner from the Federal Government ever goes into a national bank, with one, exception: When a national bank asks the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to become a partner—because that is what they are when they buy preferred stock in a bank—when they ask the R. F. C. to become a partner, the banker and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation sit down and agree on how the deal shall be made, in that deal the R. F. C. and the bank may agree that a R. and F. C. man may come in at a certain time and look over their assets or check up certain matters, which is a matter entirely between the bank and the R. F. C. The bank does not have to do that, or the bank may yield to it, just in the deal between themselves. The bank has a right to ask that an independent auditing firm make audits—and many of them do that—aside from our examinations. Many of the larger and better banks have independent audits made by some of the large auditing firms to be sure that have completely checked up on that bank. That disposes of they the point of _harassm ent of different examinations. _ Marriner S. Eccles, Governor Federal Reserve Board Hearings — • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis R. 5357 Mr. BROWN. You will find, two se,ctions later, that special examinations are provided for by the Federal Reserve Board, but I do not believe that the first section was ever repe.aled. But that is an academic question; I am not particularly interested in that. But I believe that the examinations should be conducted by 1 burea,u of the Government a.nd not by 3. Governor ECCLES. So do I. Mr. BROWN. And I think it is a good time to change the law in that respe,ct. The expense of the Government examination of the bank is borne by the bank ? Governor ECCLES. It is. Mr. BROWN. Not only the examination by the Federal Reserve Board but the examination by the Comptroller's office? Governor ECCLES. That is right Mr. BROWN. Ta,ke a community having 3 banks, 1 a national bank and 2 member State banks, and you have a great deal heavier expense upon that bank by reason of a trip by the national bank examiner and then a subsequent trip for the examination of the other 2 banks by the Federal Reserve bank examiner; and it seems to me that it is an unjust and unnecessary expense upon the banks. Now, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is the only allinclusive bureau with respect to the exa,mination of banks in the Govenunent, is it not? Governor ECCLES. I do not understand that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation was given the power to examine national banks. Mr. BROWN. Yes; it is under this bill. They may, with the consent of the Comptroller of the Currency and with the consent of the Federal Reserve Board, examine any bank. Governor ECCLES. Yes. Mr. BROWN. National banks or member State banks. Governor ECCLES. Yes. Mr. BROWN. I say "an all-inclusive bureau ", with respect to the examination of banks, because of the fact that they, of course, include all national banks, all meniber banks in the Federal Reserve System, and a great many nonmember banks; in fact, all nonmember banks which are in the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. That is a fact, is it not—that they cover them all ? Governor ECCLES. They cover them all. Mr. BROWN. And the only banks in the country that they do not cover are the uninsured banks, which are very few in number? Governor ECCLES. That is correct. Mr. 13RowN. I think I will close that part of the discussion by this: I understand that you, yourself, feel that it would be best if we could have one examining authority to examine all the banks of the country. Governor ECCLES. Let me first state that the existing duplication is not as serious as it appears on the face of things. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation make no examinations, as a regular thing. The examinations they made were in connection with subscriptions to preferred stocks and debentures; and those examinations were made only once, at the time they were determining their investment in the capital stock of the particular bank. Mr. BROWN. And,to be perfectly fair, I understand now that they are not, making even that, examination. They are accepting the other examinations. Marriner S. Eccles — Page 2 • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis / 3trGovernor Emma. That is right; and they have always accepted the other examinations, except in very important instances, where a great deal of money was involved and there was a good deal of question about the bank. The Federal Reserve Board only examines the member State ba-nks. Their examinations are usually made along with the State banking examinations, so as to avoid duplication. The Comptroller's office examines all national banks. No other agency examines national banks. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation makes no examination of national banks and makes no examination of State member banks but examines the nonmember State banks, along with the State banking departments, so as to avoid duplication there, so that there is really not the duplication in actual examinations that would appear on the face of things. However, there is, of course, a division of the examining authority between the 48 State banking departments, with reference to State banks, and the Comptroller's office with reference to the national banks, and the Federal Reserve with reference to the State member banks, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation with reference to all banks. There is not any question that you would get a much more general unification of the policy in making examinations if the examining were all done under the direction of one organization. Mr. BROWN. You certainly would eliminate the duplication of organizations. Governor ECCLES. That is right. You would eliminate the duplication of organizations, more than duplication of examinations. Mr. BROWN. 01', we might say, triplication of organizations. Governor ECCLES. Yes, sir; you would do that; and you would make, probably, for a greater unity of examination policy, which has been very sadly lacking. However, there has been a great amount of work done in the past 6 months with reference to improving the matter of unifying the policy as to examinations. The Comptroller's Office, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, \ and the Federal Reserve have had a great many meetings7 and much progress has been made toward the development of unification of examinations. _ 11 The CHAinmAx. Do you think that one system of examination, under one standard, is more likely to uncover or disclose fraud in the conduct of a bank than two examinations? Governor ECCLES. As a matter of fact, there is only one svstem in effect now. As I explained, the Federal Reserve accepts the Comptroller's examinations of national banks. If the banks were required to pay the examination expense of all these independent agencies, they could be constantly harassed and bothered with two examinations a year from each one of them; and I cannot see how they could endure it. As it is today, the banks are pretty well I harassed.with examinations and with the various reports that they I are required to make to the various agencies, which is a great expense to them. The CHAIRMAN. Are not the reports worse than the examinations? Governor ECCLES. They are both bad enough, but neces-,ary. The CHAIRMAN. From what I have heard, it would appear that the reports are worse than the examinations. 4.1,====1,MEMNII J. F. T. O'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency and Mr. Brown of Michigan Hearings — H. P. 5357 The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Brown, you had some further questions. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. I asked questions of the representatives .of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and of the Governor of the Federal Reserve Board on this matter, which to me is of considerable importance, the duplication of organizations that we have and propose in this bill for the examination of banks. I want to say now that I think that the examining division of the Comptroller's office has been most efficient and has done an excellent work, particularly durina this period of bank difficulties. I feel that the criticism made ofmy views on this thing is to a certain extent justified, and that there is not a great deal of duplication of effort. In section II of the bill we have the first and possibly the second instance of where we provide for two Government examinations. Calling your attention, Mr. O'Connor, to that, the section provides in substance that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation may examine any national bank upon the written consent of the Comptroller. Now, my purpose in bringing up this subject is to see if we cannot avoid duplication of organizations in the matter of the examination of banks. Going back a little into the history of the lecislation, when the Federal Reserve System was set up, undoubtedry the idea of those who wrote the law was to provide for examination of Federal Reserve banks by the Comptroller's office, and the law still so provides, but by subsequent enactment, and, I think, Mr. Wyatt, that was about 1921? Mr. WYATT. June 21, 1917. • • 1 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. BROWN of Michigan.•In 1917 the provisions of section 481 of the United States Code, insofar as they apply to the examination of Federal Reserve member banks were eliminated, and I understand now that your office does not' designate any examiners out of your staff for the purpose of examining member banks of the Federal Reserve Sptem which are not national banks. Is that a fact? Mr. O'CoNNoR. Yes. There is one examination a year, as I understand it, made by the Federal Reserve Board of their member banks, because there are also the State examinations of those institutions. Mr. I3RowN of Michigan. I think that in section 330 of the United States Code, the idea was that it was hoped that the State examinations would be sufficient to satisfy the Federal Re,serve Board, but„ as a matter of fact, we have a considerable force of examiners now under the Federal Reserve banks' jurisdiction, of the individual banks, I take it, rather than the Federal Reserve Board. Now we are proposing to set up an examining division in the. office of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Therefore, if we include the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, which likewise had a corps of examiners, and I think have some yet, we have four Government agencies at the present time examining banks, and if we eliminate the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, we have three, assuming that H. R. 5357 goes into effect as written. Now,I recognize that it is going to be difficult to settle this problem before we settle the problem of the right of nonmember banks to the benefits of the insurance provisions of the law. I realize. that that is a big problem that perhaps ought to be settled first, but I made this statement, having in mind the hope that the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve Board, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation can present some plan to this committee by which this duplication of organization can be eliminated. It seems to me that a national bank ought not to have two governmental masters, that the regulations ought to come from one general head. one banking department. Z.F.T. O'Connor — Page 2 92z4,, , ‘/Y,Ar" j I also recognize, Mr. O'Connor, that this is a statement, rather than a question, but I do want to ask you if you do not think that more efficient examination of our banks could be had if we consolidated the examining departments that we now have into one organization? Mr. O'CoNNon. Mr. Congressman, you have made a very clear distinction that is not usually made by people who talk about theduplication of examinations by Federal agencies, of which there is no such thing, and you have made a very careful discrimination between those, and you are correct in that statement where you referred to different agencies making examinations rather than duplications of examinations. There is no such thing in the Federal Government as the duplication of a single examination. In the first place, there is no examine'. that enters a national bank except an examiner who is duly authorized to enter that bank on authority of the Comptroller of the Currency, with one exception. If the bank invites the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to become. so to speak, a partner in that bank, as it does when it makes an investment in the preferre(I stock of the bank, then the bank and the Reconstruction Financk., Corporation. like any two contracting parties, sit. down and niake. ) • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 1 any agreement or arrangement that they want to make. I have nothing to do with it at that stage of the proceeding. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation can say,"We insist on having the -examiner go in here once a year." That is all right if the bank agrees to it; I will not complain. The bank can invite in, as some of the larger do, certified public accountants and auditors, and they laxe the right to do that. I am merely making the point that at no time does anyone enter a national bank except the duly authorized representative of the Comptroller's office. The national banking act provides that I must examine national banks at least twice a year, and oftener if found necessary. The law also provides that the Federal Reserve Board may examine banks in special instances, and, as I understand it, they examine their member banks once a year, and the State examiners examine them .once or twice, or whatever the State law provides. Now that brings us to the third exanunation, and that is by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. There is a question as to just how far that examination should go, and what the regulations should be wit.h respe,ct to it. We must never forget that that is an insurance corporation, and we have insurance corporations in this country which are underwriting bonds against embezzlement, theft, robbery in State and national banks in this country, carrying a liability of many hundreds of millions of dollars, and when they pay a loss, as they had to do in about .every month in the days past, there is no subrugation, there is no right. That is a complete, straight loss. Those insurance companies underwrite those losses, and have no recourse, so to speak, against the assets of the bank at all. They just write a check for $50,000, or 1100,000, or whatever the amount may be and they have no right of examination, or no right to go into any of these banks. I am just pointing that out--Mr. BROWN of Michigan. You are not speaking of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation? Mr. O'Comktoa. No; private companies that are insuring against embezzlement, robbery and all of those things, that carry that with.out.examination at alf, and that have no subrugation rights. Now,it is for the committee to determine just how far they want the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to go, or what attitude they should take toward these State banks, which are not chartered by the Federal Government, and with the States jealous of their supervision over them, and where their examinations are in good shape, properly so, and some of the States are very proud of their examinine system. ••••• J.F.T. O'Connor — Page 3 9)1‘ &14/f.),C I just ;mit to point out, in passing, that the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation has 16 percent of the total deposits outside of the Federal Reserve System. In other words, 84 percent of the deposits are in the Federal Reserve System. As to 16 percent of those outside of the System, your examinations would apply so far as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is concerned. Now, in the national banking system, as you know, we have about 5,467 national banks, about 3,000 less than we had at the peak, and the State member banks of the Federal Reserve System, as I remember, number about 976. • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis So we have three things in mind in discussing your problem , Mr. Congressman; that is first, that the Comptroller's office is responsi ble for the examination of 5,467 national banks. You have giVen limited examination to the Federal Reserve Board over 976 banks, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation has 16 percent of the total deposits, so that there is no duplication of examination, but there are, as you well pointed out, these agencies examining these particul ar banks; but that is a matter for this committee. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. Well, of course, under section 11 Mr. O'CoNNoR. I wanted to discuss that, Mr. Conpressman. You! called attention to that, and here is the reason for it7 and I think it is very important. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, if you pass the bill as it has been suggested to you, will give us the right to buy the assets of a bank before we have to close it. If it is a bank getting into bad shape, it is worth more as a going institution if we can go into that town and buy it or merge it, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in those instances may say,"We would like, if we should disagree with your examination, the right to go in there and make an examination in event we are going to buy the assets ", and we say that we have no objection, that we will give them the written permission to go in there, and that is the only reason that that was put in the bill, Mr. Congressman. We cotild not write it in. but I am glad to ele:tr that up. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. That is the only reason for it? Mr. O'CoNivoR. That is the sole reason for it. Mr. BROWN of Michigan. Well, do you think, Mr. Comptroller,. that it would be advisable for the Government to give consideration. to the question of turning over the matter of the examination of banks to one governmental agency? Mr. O'CoN:con. I know, Mr. Congressman, that you will appreciate my embarrassment in answering that question. It is just not quite fair to ine to answer it, because each of us would probably say,"Why yes; we will do it '', so that I would rather leave it to the committee. Whatever you fellows do, we will do at our end of it. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis EXC MPTS EMPIRF FO1 ir.)7F.1 Detter folders for Letter files 306S Send your Order to the nearest "Y and E" Representatives or to our Home Office YAWMAN AND ERBE MFG.O. Main Factories and Execut!ve ROCHESTER, N. Y. Drandies arkl ."\::n!s in all Principal Cidea J. F. T. 0'Connor, Comptroller of the Currency Hearings — S. 1715 and H. R. 7617 April, 1935. Now,the question I would like to clear up, Senator, is the question of the so-called "duplication of examinations." There is no such thing in the Government as duplication of examinations. There is no one who enters into a national bank, except an examiner who is duly appointed by the Comptroller of the Currency, with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, as the law provides, except in one instance. If the bank makes a deal with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, and the bank and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation go in as partners and provide for some kind of an examination, it is entirely a voluntary matter between the bank and the R. F. C. That is the only instance in which anyone goes into a bank except a duly accredited representative of the Comptroller's office. The Federal Reserve Board examines State banks, and that work is done in cooperation with the examiners of the various States, making examinations,I believe, once a year. The law requires the Comptroller to make two examinations every year of national banks. Now, the only other agency that makes examinations in Washington is the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and they examine State nonmember banks which are members of the fund. And no other agency goes into those banks on the part of the Federal Government. I want to say that I have not found any complaint, or none has been registered so far as I know as a member of the three offices or departments, that there has been any criticism on the part of the States directed against the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, or the Federal Reserve Board, in working together for the examinations of those State banks. I have not found any on the part of the States. And I want to be sure to clear up the question that there is no duplication of examinations. I have seen many statements made ----/ https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 64 BANKING ACT OF 1935 that examiners from two or three departments go into those bankxwhich is not true. Senator GLASS. Well, while it is practically a fact that there may be no duplication of bank examinations, as a matter of law the Federal Reserve Board is authorized at any time it pleases to examine a member bank. Mr. O'CONNOR. The law provides it may make special examinations, Senator. Senator GLASS. Yes. Mr. O'CoNNort. Yes; that is the wording of the law, which they have never exercised, because they have access to our records. Senator GLASS. They have access to all your data ? Mr. O'CONNOR. Yes, sir. Senator BYRN-Es. Your contention is, as a practical matter, then, there is no duplication? Mr. O'CoNNoR. There is no duplication. There are no two examiners that go into a bank representing the National Government, which is duplication of examination, Senator. 1 J. F. T. O'Connor — Page Senator GLASS. But when all of those State banks come into the Federal Reserve System, as they are required to do by July 1, 1937, will they be examined by the Comptroller's office or by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation? Mr. O'CONNOR. Well, if they become members of the Federal Reserve System, then, of course, they would not, under present statutes of Congress, be examined at all by the Comptroller's office, under the present statute. Senator GLASS. Well, they would be examined by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation examining board? Mr. O'CoNNon. No, sir. Senator GLASS. And then that would not constitute a duplication ? You would not examine them? Mr. O'CONNOR. No; I would not examine them. Senator GLASS. And the Corporation would not examine them? Mr. O'CoNNoR. No; the Corporation would not examine them. There would be no necessity. Senator GLASS. They would be examined under the authority of the Federal Reserve Board? Mr. O'CoNNoR. Yes; just as they accept their examinations nov:. Senator BYRNES. So far as the banks are concerned, they are not annoyed by duplication of examinations? Mr. O'CONNOR. No, sir. Senator BYRNES. But the fact is the Government has two sets of examiners under the present organization? Mr. O'CoNNoR. Yes. sir. Senator BYRNES. Making examinations? Mr. O'CONNOR. Yes. Now, that is the proper way to state the whole problem that is so misunderstood. Senator GLASS. Under the law the Corporations—I mean both the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation—have access to your data? Air. O'CoNNoit. Yes, sir. Senator GLASS. Your examinations of banks? Air. O'CONNOR. Yes. Senator. • 1 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • BANKING ACT OF 1935 65 \ Now, here probably is the foundation for the criticism tha some\times comes with reference to those examinations, to be very pointe& If you have a town, which happens very often, where you have got a national bank, and you have got a member bank, and you have got a State nonmember bank in the town, you have got three sets of examiners from the Federal Government going into that town; you have got the national-bank examiner going in there with his assistants, and he has no authority to go into the others; you have the Federal Reserve Board examiner, with his assistants. going in there; and you have the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation examiner going in there. J. T. Pole, Comptroller of the Currency Hearings — S. Res. 71 /9 a, • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis / CHAIRMAN. Mr. Comptroller, to begin at the beginning, it has been periodically suggested that the office of the Comptroller of the Currency be abolished and its functions transferred to the Federal Reserve Board, and the reason given for such a suggestion is that there is a large duplication of functions. Do you concur in that belief that there is a large duplication of functions ? Mr. POLE. I do not see, Mr. Chairman, that there is any duplication of functions. If the comptroller's office were attached to the Federal Reserve Board, they would necessarily have to designate somebody to take charge of the comptroller's duties, and while the Federal Reserve Board has the right, and does make examinations of banks from time to time, I think that the board is generally perfectly willing to rely upon the reports of the comptroller's office and indeed of the State superintendents of banks, and where they are not they have the right to make their own examinations. Moreover, th Federal Reserve Board is a deliberative body, whereas the function of the comptroller are primarily executive. • Excerpts from a letter to Mr. Leo H. Paulger from L.— M.___Clark of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta dated November 30, 1936 "Another examination has just been completed of the Savannah Bank and Trust Company and practically the same violations are again reported. During the examiner's discussion of the matter with the management of the bank, it developed that other banking institutions in Savannah have not been reouired to adhere to the provisions of the regulation and for that reason difficulty arose in the attempt to effect thP desired corrections, especially as to the public funds so carried. "There have been other instances in this district where correction of violations of this nature have been difficult due to similar situations as outlined above, and information given by the banks that other banks in the same community had not been renuired to remove accounts from the savings department where they were carried in violation of the provisions of Regulation Q. Accordingly, in view of the difficulty experienced, we are attempting to obtain the cooperation of the Chief National Bank Examiner of this district in an effort to have the provisions of the regulation-carried out by all member banks." https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis SOURCE: AnnuAl Report of the Secretary to Pa. Bankers Association (Charles F. Zimmerman, President, First National Bank, Huntingdon) about May 2l, 1936 The Bankiu Board It is a privilege to express the confidence felt throughout the Commonrealth because of the marner in which the plans of Secretary of Banking, Luther A. Harr, have materialized since the Scranton Convention, in setting up the Banking Board as an arm of the State Government in supervising state chartered banks and trust companies and trust departments of national banks. The authority conferred upon the Banking Board together with its present personnel, assures a continuance of sound reFulatiens and administrative policies within the Banking Department, and is a considerable guarantee against undue political influence in tl-e conduct of the work of the Department. Opinion of our bankers iE to the effect that the establishment of the Banking Board marks a real step in advance for an even stronger banking system for Pennsylvania. Mistaken StTervipou Policy Sensing from correspondence with members of the Association, many ner problems arising nowadays in practical banking, it is difficult to avoid expressing the thought that constant aggressions in the field of banking by federal authorities, have brought to the forefront the grave necessity of aggressively upholding states rights in banking, if the normal processes of banking in America are to be preserved to us for the future. A serious question in point has been projected by recent federal legislation under regulations authori2ed by the Banking Act of 1935. Trust departments of national banks in this state presumably may be no longer guided by the Pennsylvania Fiduciaries Act, but instead are expected to submit to certain methods prescribed in Regulation F issued by the Federal Reserve Board. I refer to the action by Federal authorities to upset the established method governing oilr investment of trust funds held by a national bank trust department under the jurisdiction of the County Court, in prohibiting participations in mortgages owned by the commercial departmen t of the bark, and eligible for trust funds under our Pennsylvania Fiduciari es Act.0 Such needless ham-stringing of the natural functions and obligations of corporate trustees, persuades one that these steps at Tashington should be promptly retraced for the good of all parties concerned. Neither any banker nor any other thoughtful person needs to be reminded that integrity carnot be lerislated into the conduct of trust department management. It is vain to assume that such a prohibition as the foregoing, governing the normal and long established method of investing trust funds by corporate trustees, can by any means whatsoever promote more honorable intent or wiser discretion, on the part of the trust investment committee of any bank. Laws of https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1GA5 • Ai • SOURCE: Annual Report of the Secretary to Pa. Bankers Association (Charles F. Zimmerman, President, First National Bank, Huntingdon) about May 21, 1936 The Banking Board It is a privilege to express the confidence felt throughout the Commonrealth because of the manner in which the plans of Secretary of Banking, Luther A. Harr, have materialized since the Scranton Convention, in setting up the Banking Board as an arm of the State Government in supervising state chartered banks and trust companies and trust departments of national banks. The authority conferred upon the Banking Board together with its present personnel, assures a continuance of sound regulations and administrative policies within the Banking Department, and is a considerable guarantee against'undue political influence in the conduct of the Tork of the Department. Opinion of our bankers is to the effect that the establishment of the Banking Board marks a real step in advance for an even stronger banking system for Pennsylvania. Mistaken Supervipou Policy Sensing from correspondence with members of the Association, many ner problems arising nowadays in practical banking, it is difficul t to avoid expressing the thought that constant aggressions in the field of banking by federal authorities, have brought to the forefront the grave necessit y of aggressively upholding states rights in banking, if the normal processes of banking in America are to be preserved to us for the future. A serious question in point has been projected by recent federal legislation under regulations authorized by the Ranking Act of 1935. Trust departments of national banks in this state presumably may be no longer guided by the Pennsylvania Fiduciaries Act, but instead are expected to submit to certain methods prescribed in Regulation F issued by the Federal Reserve Board. I refer to the action by Federal authorities to upset the established method governing our investment of trust funds held by a national bank trust department under the jurisdiction of the County Court, in prohibiting participations in mortgages awned by the commercial departme nt of the bark, and eligible for trust funds under our Pennsylvania Fiduciar ies Act.0 Such needlesF ham-stringing of the natural functions and obligations of corporate trustees, persuades one that these steps at Tashington should be promptly retraced for the good of all parties concerned. Neither any banker nor any other thoughtful person needs to be remin(led that integrity carnot be lerislated into the conduct of trust department management. It is vain to assume that such a prohibition as the foregoing, governing the normal and long established method of investing trust funds by corporat e trustees, can by any means whatsoever promote more honorable intent or wiser discretion, on the part of the trust investment committee of any bank. Laws of https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • this type tend most of all to throw disparagement upon thousands of conscientious bank officers, whose problem it is to keep in operation high-grade, correct trust practices day in and day out. It is fair to say that E0 far es Pennsylvania is concerned, this provision in Regulation F, is devoid of all merit as a practical measure. Many similar instances can be provided to establish the unwisdom of supervisory policies now in vogue out of Washington. The influence of the Pennsylvania Bankers Association shonld be felt in the direction of finding neans for having supervision made a serviceable instrumentality rather than a basis for obstructing the normal and necessary activities of good banking. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 'Vac • SOURCE: NORTHAESTERN BANKER----JULY 1936 Pages 49-51 (THE IOWA CONVENTION) ---DEPOSIT INSURANCE" "NET BANKING SAFEGUARD, Phillips L. Goldsborough Director Insurance Corporation Deposit Federal "I would like to point briefly to five things deposit insurence has done for you which are outside the intrinsic benefits of the law and in addition to the common bond it has given you. "First, there has been the program of capital rehabilitation which I mentioned earlier. Next it has made available to those banks which are not members of the Reserve System the counsel and advice of examiners of wide experience, men whose contacts have been national in scope and who, consequently, bring a broader understanding to bear on the probltms of the individual bank. Also, with your State Banking Department it has worked toward the setting up of uniform examinations and has made its examinations concomitantly with the state authorities wherever possible.L_Again, in cooperation with your State Banking authorities, it 1.8 rapidly gutting into shape a 'condition report form' which will answer the needs of both and save you what would otherwise be needless duplicatios) Fourth, it has extended to all insured banks the benefits of the /ederal Reserve regulations concerning the payment of interest on demand deposits a source of saving to all of you. Lastly, the fiscal policies of the corporation have been such that the Temporary Federal Deposit Insurance Fund was liquidated without cost to you and the entire amounts of the assessments you have paiC into it were carried over into the Permanent Deposit Insurance hind as credit against future payments. "The corporation stands ready to cooperate and will do everything within its power to help, but the primary responsibility for building today a strong foundation for tomorrow's business, rests with you. It is a social and a moral duty which each of you must face in his own community. Po group of people has a greeter challenge. You are in a very reel sense the hope of the countr;: for a sound system cf banking. In your vision and leadership lies the way to new prosperity." https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis SOURCE: NORTHWESTERN BANKER----JULY 1956 IOWA CONVENTION RESOLUTIONS Page 54 We appreciate the benefits derived from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation as an insurance corporation and believe that the insurance has been e contributing factor to the stabilization of banking. however, we disapprove any program of the FDIC whereby the corporation usurps or dominates any powers now resting in the hands of the superintendent of banking. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Report of the Trust Committee 46th Annual Convention Ohio Bankers Asso., 1936 (The Ohio Banker, June 1936) * * 4, * * * * * During the year, the Trust Committee also has given study to and favors a uniform fiduciaries act.Consideration of the law and practice Y'll; of requiring bond from Ohio corporate fiduciaries continues. The question of the practice of law remains in the picture in some parts of the state and litigation is being closely watched with an eye to a possible statewide decision, if this matter is to be determined by the courts. 1// It should be noted here that during the year, state examination of trust departments in national banks was terminated. This is now done by Federal examjnation. / https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ****** ** ICO,rj • Discussion on the Address of Mr. Fisher Proceedings of the 54th Annual Convention National Association of Supervisors of State Banks Atlanta, November 1935 Mr. Bates (Iowa): * * * * * * * * The delay, it seems to me, in which we are placed, by the many things that have to be covered before a thing can be accomplished--in our district we haye a law that authorizes the banking institutions to establish offices in towns where there are no banking facilities, not a separate corporation but a small office for the purpose of furnishing that community_ with banking facilities. The parent bank must keep the original books at the bank;_ there is no capital fOr the office, merely an office in a community, that cannot support and has no business for a bank but still the people of the community have a right to some banking facilities. Now, sinqe September 22, 1935, we must get the consent of the FDIC before that office can be established and there must be an insrection made by a representative of the FDIC to ascertain; first: whether the bank has sufficient carital to establish the office; and second: whether the office is necessary. You know, I think the FDIC or any other federal agency ought to have some confidence in the men who represent the state. Without intending to criticise, I do not believe you fellows were selected, whether appointed by the Governor or by the Legislature or how you came into office--you were not selected because of your dumbness but were selected because of your ability to perform the thing for which you were selected and you are supposed to have some intelligence and h5ve had some experience and be fairly, at least, qualified to fill the position you occupy. Now, these gentlemen were selected in the same manner to perform the functions of the things they are doing the same as we are. Now, the FDIC have rerorts_there_ of their own or any of our states, they have a copy of our examination reports of that particular institution and those rerorts are recent, they are_not_a,_year old, not more than six months old at any time, and it seems to me they could facilitate thins by taking the examination report instead of doing this: they send us a form and we inake out an application and re are recuired now to have the bank make out . an application and send it in. It goes to our district supervising authority and from there to Washington and when it gets in there, what do they do? They send back to the district supervisinr authority a request for him to go out and make an examination of tbe situation of thPt bank, it is not a real examination but he must make a viPw of the situation, so to speak, and make a report back before we can establish that office. I think we ought to be able to, with the FDIC supervising examiner there and our supervisinc, examiner in my department, we ou:ht to be able to get together and know whether that office should be established or not. * * * * * * * * I have made two or three notations here: The question was asked this morning of Mr. Crowley with reference to the amount of bonds required. Now, in every examination report that is made by the FDIC there is this notation: "Bonds of office insufficient" or "is sufficient." Our law does not prescribe the bonds the bank is required to give. I think it is difficult to make any fast rigid rule, I don't think it can -e7a, be made by law, but there should be some basis upon which we should get ' 4 ' 4 *4 suggested together As and no* be too high. fix the bonds, and it should https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis by Mr. Crowley, every officer in every bank should be bonded. These are only strengthening the service. There are many things, it does seem to me, can be simplified by the FDIC authorities and the state authorities getting together and making theoe examinations and these contacts more imply and with some dispatch.0 still repeat what I said the first day of our convention: that the FDIC is an indispensable organization in the banking system of this country and it is the duty of every supervisor, as I see it, to give his full cooperation with that organization and support it to his utmost and at the same time protect his state organizations because I think that it was the state banking system of this country that built up the middle west as far as that is concerned, and without it we cannot go on further and progress as we have in the past. If there were some way--I doni t know what suggestion to make about it but if there were some way the representatives of the FDIC and tne committee of supervising authorities could get together and work out a plan by which many of these things could be simplified it would save not only the corporation annoyance and expense but would save us a lot of it and facilitate our work very greAly'. r 1 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ****** ** ** > • SOURCE: THE MISSISSIPPI BANKER - MAY 1935 ADDRESS OF m. D. BRETT, State Comptroller, Dept. of Bank Supervision Pages 36-37-38 * * ** * **** With the various rules and regulations I have mentioned and others that will be issued from time to time, you no doubt think of top heavy bank supervision. But may I call to your attention that these are not merely to bring about a proper understanding and observance of the law, but are also made in the interest of uniformity, to the end that all will be proceeding along the same lines. When this is accomplished the exPminerls time in your bank will be lessened. The objections that are now common, and whicn form the basis of suggestions and criticism, will be eliminated. The time of your directors and officers will be saved to be devoted to the important duties of the bank. I am persuaded to believe that as soon as we demonstrate our ability to the F.D.I.C. and other governmental supervising agencies to efficiently supervise and examine banks, and to bring to them information needed to form conclusions, and impress them witn our desire to observe the law on every hand, just so soon will we lighten our burdens in this respect. We are not nnmindfUl of the wonderfnl work done by the R.F.C. in rehabilitation as a vehicle for capital structure and the fine work done by the F.D.I.C. in qualifying our banks for deposit guaranty, and may I say that I have found these agencies very co-operative with us in our program. We must admit that their interest is such in the banks that they are entitled to all the information they desire and assistance in seepg that our State laws governing banking are observed. I believelpur banking law is fairly sufficient when observed in every respect along with the observance of sound principles of banking. Sound banking practices will do more than any one thing to preserve to us what we are pleased to call State rights for our banks. There should be close co-operation between this Department and the F.D.I.C. as a regulatory and examining body and to this end both departments are striving, and thus far we have accomplished some satisfactory results on various matters which in many ways will result in benefits to you. At this time we a're working on a revision of our examiners procedure and reports to bring them in conformity with F.D.I.C. procedure and forms with supplemental portions bringing in matters that we see when examinations are not jointly made. L. P.ilso other forms you have to make are being reconciled to the F.D.I.C. and other Governmental forms required when State banks are members of the Fedcral Reserve System to the end that when a call for report of condition or other information comes out the figures compiled may be used for all call reports by your bank:7) https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ' 1 tri48 -2- The lississippi Banker - May 1935 M. D. Brett Pages 56-37-38 (contd.) Immediately after taking office I began discussions with the F.D.I.C. through its Supervising Examiner for this district, Mr. W. Clyde Roberts, to see if our work could not be made more uniform and duplication of efforts, wherever possible, eliminated and I have found him very co-operative and sympathetic with our problems and with the employment of extra examiners we have just been able to complete a tentative schedule which in the main will result in joint examinations, subject of course, to withdrawal at any time it proves not to be feasible. Uniform procedure with respect to other matters is in sight, wita certain exceptions. Therefore, with uniform examination procedure and forms, call reports and as many joint examinations as are possible, and joint agreement as to criticism and suggestions, we believe your work will be simplified and lessened and good will promoted between the F.D.I.C., our Department and the banks' officers and directors. As I see it now, under the law, sole enforcement of the laws rest with the State Supervising authorities of the respective states. But the exposure of the F.D.I.C. from the standpoint of deposit guAranty is auch as to entitle it to every consideration. Cooperation from State departments having jurisdiction over bank supervision to the end that all requirements tending to sound banking are met is highly necessary and this department is giving the F.D.I.C. whole-hearted co-operation. Although the proposed amendments to the Banking Act of 1933 of the U.S. carry power to enforce its rules and regulations and the law, yet I believe that if our bankers can demonstrate that they can manage their banks and are co-operative, and if the State Department of Banking properly supervises and examines the banks and sees that the law is observed, notwithstanding this right, which is recited as "may" instead of "shall" in most places in the amendments, States' rights in banking will yet be preserved to a great extent, in so far as the F.D.I.C. is concerned. I-As a further aid to this end we have installed an efficient tracing system and your call reports are reviewed and anything revealed therein needing correction we bring to your attention as soon as possible for correction prior to examinations. Thus we should be able to solve much of our supervising overload through co-operation of all concerned. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 111111. 100• S. Banking Problems* by Dr. Gaines It. Carttalkoswa /ow Tork liniversity (Journal of the Canadian Bankers. isso., Ostobert 1935) * * * ****** In spite of the bousseleseirng ehialk has taken amber et small institutions whisk have irne pima place, there is a large in the Amorieme banking strrneture ampt of bresehes of strum miingelitee entire Maim situation mild be greatly bernefited imetiletleme6 the IN, the graduel externeise cf km* bembim es that all sissable amen ities amid have adeOat* ead sere beskleg servime without takimg the smell local lestitmtlem boodle the beldam doriesOhm's ihilt ems Am bed yam. ?he Federal Goverment emernet safeli amens ibis buries thro lhe ugh PIM 'the affairs of the latter ere goiag alms very *imply at prOS OM4, beef ier, bemuse af the resent beseeelemalag, but all such mam as mai their bestim time eel, after years have elapsed. •* * * * * *• 'be problem of lams Is clemly seaseeted natio** reciired by the vesieme autherities4 with the type et bask semilerne %Mk ammirners have made It mere difficult for beaks to inerease looms Aerie, the past tee years beams. ef Incomearily rigid regeireemis4 geMerel Stott arnmeinere hare bess the met lemismt* Mona aseerve beak ellooloosi r Quite strict bet set as severe *a latlenal beak smOirnerso SIM a mete s of maltiple smemimatise provosts banks male( spy leans except them ehleh are extr et Short diseAdernip and it mold appear oafs ase te relax emely Heald mid the rules semelhat. illerndardisetem of beak eaukeinatiotus and amestratios of sash swat within erneergenisatiem is lapoostive• lios (kited Auto. seeds a unified basking stru tter*. All Mote Woke Mould be remised te joie the Poisral %serve Spot s% and as seen as expodisot all member, of the system should be put lede r astiasal Shorter. The trend tolordusifisatien bee bees mem in seve ral respeets bemuse the pelbeet 404 belkieg system me le se small my responsi ble for the ante basking tremble. *id) led up ts the bank hili dey ef abou t tee years age. It is signifternat that groater progress has hem made in releasier depepits is amber bens them in astossobeirs., The suggesti on that banks new subjest Vederel ?splatter meld svoid saifisatien by teem ieg memomeMer Slate beaks is utoloo slam it sight seme retaliat ory meseres by a Morel 140inistratios, ALUM bias not hesitated to intr odmee redleal measuree, mod thee presipitate a movement for immediate mattemalisat ios of beaks. ** * **** * * the illnion that the particular age in vhilh a give s baikieg prestige -sista is final is one that is semlimmal4tming lhemiee mud proati400 et Amorists banking domed aplerge grea ahme t mg It is amenery to resegnise the fast that beaks sorry risks emd suffer less ee, ihe essitsmay for memy years ef bone te Install adequate servise Sharps met seep, Meeks realise they are entitled te this to fear the realties es the part of their easte seem of imam bet seen rners no might meat the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1637 t bailie change of pelisfr 1111 this reeteet• Ikea serrisss bays wet taw basks e single years Ihromoral years as hist as 01100$000,411. of Om 14 U. S. sorsreisi maks that if all age a eatios-iride Serm, bassatell adopted a small fleet Ammo mom then $50,000000 meld be sated te eereleue emmeally. This, of esuree, is only sae tripe of servile *am. is bas teem ledicated, on the other hand, costs ems beet be cut by cooperative *sties to reduce the meet important empomps item *deb is interest paid su deposits. Particularly in rural areas !twiny country hmke sre operatiag Apes earalago insufficient to justify their eapital investeast bet beemeee e iseepetitive oaseitteee are paying eseeseive rotes of interest ea tiee &peals. This met be Obeaged4 an4 there ere indieatioas that start hall 1011101 10.6 WI the beaks tm daeling with all the4e problem,. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis .Ta ICY • M. E. Bristow (Virginia) Discussion on the Address of Mr. Hecht Proceedings of the 34th Annual Convention National Association of Supervisors of State Banks Atlanta, November 1935 ******** * * * * * I have in mind the publication of statements of member banks of the Federal Reserve System on the call of the Federal Reserve Banks. In my state all state banks including Federal Reserve member banks are required to publish statements whenever the Comptroller calls on national banks. Therefore, ever since the inauguration of the Federal Reserve System we have made calls and required their publication concurrently with the national system. Our banks should not be required to publish two statements. In my state we have worked in cooperation with the FDIC and have adopted the form of a published statement pre_ scribed by it. It is obvious that wq_cannot keep step with two lifferrnt federal authorities unless they themselves are agreed on their requirements. In order to meet tIle issue presented by the pending Call, we have agreed with the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond to have the statements published at the concurrent calls of our department Ald the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond. If other states are similarly situated I feel that we should request the Federal Reserve Board to accept the statements which are published in regard to our calls in the place of theirs. The statements which we call for as a matter of fact show the financial statements of bhe banks affected. There is little change between the forms which we use and those prescribed by the Federal Reserve Board. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis * * *** * ** ' t..••••••••° • Harold W. Horsey (Delaware) Proceedings of the 34th Annual Convention National Association of Supervisors of State Banks Atlanta, November 1935 Mr. President and Gentlemen: I have a very brief report. In the first place, there has been no new banking legislation excepting one law modifying the investment provisions. In the first place, we think we have a pretty accurate set of banking laws and, in the second place, since the record showp_that a large percentage of the banks not only in Delaware but throughout the country are in the FDIC it looks a little bit superfluous for the states to exert themselves now to pass new banking legislation, unless they are looking into the future. On that ground it would be justified, but as long as the new FDIC Act is in force with the powers, provisions and regulations they have in connection with legislation, any legislation on the part of the state is We have superfluous unless we are looking into the future as I a very optimistic view at this time. Business conditions in the state have improved and, we think, throughout the depression, comparatively speaking, the conditions in Delaware have been more than good. Agriculture this year has had a good crop, and things do look very good. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Itravd \- SOURCE: MONEY AND BANKING--by White (Revised 1935) CHAPrER XXX RECENT MONETARY AND BANKING LEGISLATION Page 720 One of the most serious defects of the banking system of the United States is its lack of uniformity. In general it may be said that we are operating under forty-nine different systems: the forty-eight state banking systems and the national bankinz system. A special train carrying two hundred and sixty etaminers in addition to about a hundred clerical assistants from three different agencies (the national banking system, the state banking department, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) recently arrived in one of the larger cities in the United States, and the three examining bodies worked at the same time in all the banks of the town. The Banking Act of 1933 did not reiedy-this situation, except in so far as the participating banks in the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation must become members of the Federal Reserve System before July 1, 1937, unless the law is amended before that time. Although branch-banking privileges were extended, our system is still predominantly one of independent units. * if- • • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis v.cri ei4 • Proceedings of the 55rd Annual Convention National Asso. of Supervisors of State Banks Baltimore, October 1954 * * ** *** ** J, S. Love (Superintendent of Banks, Mississippi): A moment ago, in reporting conditions in Mississippi, I neglected to report on legislation. In 1955 there was appointed, partly by the Governor and partly by the Mississippi Bankers Association, to be reported to the legislature of 1934, changes in the banking laws, one of these completely rewritten largely to conform to the Federal Banking Act of 1933. There were many things in this law; tightening down of the laws in view of better banking. For instance, the question of loans to officers and directors of banks: no officer of a bank can now borrow from his own institution without permission of the Superintendent; under the new law one of the factors that affected the small country town in Mississippi was regarding banking facilities, thus permitting not branch banking but branch officers-maybe a town hasn't sufficient business to justify or support a bank but still needs some banking accommodations, solvent and strong banks in the neighborhood can establish an office and give the people facilities, which is all that is needed after all. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ** * * * * * * * /, zz t ) • Address by Leo T. Crowley, Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corroration National Asso. of Supervisors of State Banks 33rd Annual Convention, Baltimore, Md., October 1934 ********** The problems will differ with each state, but may I suggest that you consider carefully the idea of making certain that your laws are such that your banks and you as supervising officials can obtain the maximum amount of benefit from the various Federal agencies. In this the Corporation will give any assistance possible, especially with a view of promoting a desirable uniformity, and you will not only increase your effectiveness as supervisors and aid the banks, but you will increase the efficiency of the governmental agencies established to aid you. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ** *** *** ** r* ..h".11 SOURCEs PROCEEDINGL YOU STATE BANKFRE, AUOCIATION - 1954 Palo 15$ (REPORT 01 THE commITTEE Cit FEDERAL LEGISLATION) * I believe that the approval of the FDIC should be * * sought by every bank seeking to establish branches. In this manner a single agency caa control the rate of expansion without in any way interfering with the sovereignties of either state or national systems. It is highly probably that ouch a plan may help to eliminate excessive competition. It certainly would add no onerous burden to seibership in the FUnd and might assist the members by providing them with a mpasurement of self protection. It may be that the idea is unworkable but et present I believe it has posBibilities of being developed into other methods of self-preservation and control on the part of the banks themselves. * https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis LOURCEI ME COMMERCIAL & FINANCIAL CHIONICIA--ABA Oonventione-Nov. 17, 19754 Address of President of State Bank Divialion, Clyde Hendriy, President Tenn. Valley Jenks Decatur, Ala* PlAc 55 The &tate 's.-ak Diviuion nas u aeavy program ahead *blot will afford ita membership aany opportunities for waive eervice. Among ir ths more iaportaut objectives and the meann for reeehtre, them, reconeendeds 1. That we continue to light aggressirelv fee the preservation of the 1-1.ato Bunkiei; byaLea aa against any form of hilresneratic centralization* k. That we take such steos as may he neceseary in order to hring Anther ameudnent to the *inking Act of 1955, modifying it so es about to not require nonmember State balks to become membere of the Federal Reserve System in order to continue their rleposit lereurenne, and, if pov:Able, limit asseeements to a fixed maximum within the ability of banks to pay. a 5. That we use our influence to bring about tir,e co-ordination of examinations by the several supervising authoritiee, with perhaps a revision of standards and classificetions. 4. That we continue to emphasize and develop better bank memagosent theough inetitutes end eonfereeeee erd ott,en-fpc 5. That we urge the putting into practice of reesonable stop4mos and service charges and sleek new sourcer for mi./liege in order that tanking operations nay show a reasonable profit. 6. That we encouregf the a9pointment of competent State supervisors, with adequate pay, and that we advocate that banking departments be removed as far ea is possible fron political influence. " 111 7. That we insiet on greater care being exercised in the granting Aamd( supervisors State the between -operation of new charters, with a close. es the Coeptroller of the Currency with reference thereto. N. That we continue our program of promoting nere uniform State banking laws. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 SOURCE: REPORT ON BANKS OF DEPOSIT & DILCOUNT, ETC. - B.Y. 1954 BANKING BOARD RESOLUTIONS Page 39 Pate 40 21. * * * * * Resolved, That no bank or trust computy and no private banker, investment company or hew Xork agency of any foreign banking corporation shall, direct4 or indirectly, by any device whatsoever, pay after December 81, 1984, any interest on any deposit which ie payable on demands Provided, that nothing herUn contained shall be conetrued ae prohibiting the payment of interest in accordance with the terse of any certificate of deposit or other contract entered into in good faith, or before December 10, 1984, and which is in force on that date; but no such certificate of deposit Or other contract shall be renewed or extended unless it shall be modified to conform to this regulation, and every bank and truat company and every private banker and hew lork agency of any foreign banking corporation Shall take such action ea may be necessary to conform to this regulation ae soon as possible consistently with ita contractual obligations; * 4 * * Demand deposits within the meaning of this regulation shall com, prise all deposits peyable within thirty days and all funds held by investment companies in connection with the exercise of the power conferred by subdivision I (a) of sect;on 508 of the Banking LaW, which are payable within thirty days. The 6uperintendent is authorised to construe thie resolution in ouch a manner as to require the persons and corporations to which it applies to conform to the requirements imposed upon banks which are membere of the Federal Reserve bystem, with respect to the non-payment of interest upon demand deposits. Adopted December 6, 1974. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis SOURCE& RIPONT ON SAKS OF DEPOSIT & DISCOUNT, ETC. - NJ. 191.4 SIMON BANKING bacLi *abaft semi) The Stephens Act, dividing the state into nine districts and permitting branch banking by banks and trust companies within such districte, has new been a law for about gym months. The provisions of that Aot are clear that the Legislature was especially ooncerned that it should be administered in such a wey as to avoid undue and unsound expansion of bankimg under its terms. This principle the Board hos kept constantly in mind in the exercise of its poser under the Act to approve or disapprove applications for branches. Not only has the Seard weighed with the utmost care all applicationa which have same before it but it has also sided and aPProved the policy of the Superintendent in cooperating with the office of the Comptroller of the aarremey in an effort to establish * OOMMOD poliey as between stnte aad nations' systems* The eontimeless of this policy is not only advisable but imperative if braneb banking is to develop on a sound basis. For the purposes of determining in what communities tnd under what conditions there is to be a further expansion of banking fsoilities, all the banks of the State mnst be treated as Waning to one system. The mingle purpowe of providimg sewed and adequate banking facilities for all Deities* of the State emmnot be aehieved in the absenee of eesperation between the two agemelea which are authorised to permit the formation of maw banks or branshes* ihe belief of the Beard in this principle is refloeted in a :Taal Umm adopted March 111 195t pursuant to which the board memorialised Oengresz to incorporate in any amendment to the federal bankieg lens provisions requiring the approval of state authorities fer the metthhilihment of a national bank or branch thereof in any emannmity served by a state beak or trust eempemp4 provided the State would likewise mast legislatiom requiring the approval of the federal authorities for the establishment of state bank or trust compemy or breach thereat in OW, immunity served by a natimalimmik4 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1.616 -11 • The Seattle Conference - Report by Howard H. Hansen, Supervisor of Banking, Wash. National Asso. of Supervisors of State Banks 33rd Annual Convention, Baltimore, Md., October 1934 -,* * * * * * When the F. D. I. C. came into the picture '.,e attempted wherever possible o make general examinations with them. We found, however, t'-it our examination was a little different than that of the F. D. I. C.1 We have non-member state banks, member state banks, and trust depaaments of national banks, and the F. D. I. C. chief examiner had the states of Washington, Oregon and part of Idaho to examine, so our fields did not coincide, but(!herever possible we made joint examlnations. Te found, however, in all these joint examinations, both with the Federal Reserve and the F. D. I. C., that the time taken for making these examinations was from one-half to one-third longer with the same number of our men and the same number of Federal men. This was brought about to a considerable extent by reason of the fact that there were two sets of examiners and only one set of bank officers and they got in each other's way. There were different types of reports to make up; sometimes the loan classifications were a little different and, in the case of member banks, the Federal Reserve examiners paid particular attention to past due paper, while we look to solvency. Little differences like that resulted in a longer time for making the examination. Also, in multiole examinations, it takes at least twice as much of the officers' time to take care of examiners and furnish them with reports and information to complete the examinatio!D LI ,,,A Running through all of this, we must remember that all state banks examined are either by the Federal Reserve Bank or the F. D. I. C. in addition to our own examination, but the national banks are examined only by the national bank examiners and not by the F. D. I. C. or Federal Reserve Bank. It was, therefore, our thourht to try to perfect a program that would be acceptable to the Federal Reserve Bank and the F. D. I. C. whereby they would accept our examination ?s their own. Naturally, we had to give some thought to the responsibility which they have in their respective positions, particularly the F. D. I. C., which have guaranteed deposits in non-member state banks and member banks and naturally want a complete picture of those banks. They have 48 states and 48 different supervisors to deal with and the most serious trouble .in connection with accepting the examinations of these numerous supervising authorities is the fact that there is no uniformity in making these reports. Therefore, if we are to suggest a program to the F. D. I. C. for making one examingtion by the state supervisory authority, we must take their viewpoint also and provide uniformity to help them quickly to grasp the picture of a bank. Early in September, about the time of the Seattle meeting, a conference was held in Washington, attended by representativesof the F. D. I. C., Federal Reserve Bank and Comptroller, at which time they agreed upon a uniform form of examination, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis " - 2- 11/ already discussed this morning. I am in accord with the gentleman who desired more brevity in that report and an endeavor to give a cuicker and clearer picture of the examination, but I do believe tipit if this committee meets with representatives of the F. D. I. C., they can work out a good uniform renort that we all can agree to use. Then another factor in making examinations is the caliber of exapiners and their experience. We should be able to satisfy the F. D. I. C. and the Federal Reserve that our examiners are competent and able to do the job. If we can make a reasonable showing, agree to use uniform examination reports, and show that our examiners are able to perform the task, then I think it is reasonable that we request consideration be given to elimination of this multiple examination system as it now exists. One additional point: Te feel that the F. D. I. C. and Federal Reserve Bank should have a close contact with state supervisory authorities in order that we can give a clearer picture from our resnective states, particularly those of us who are far from the office in Washington. Therefore, the chief examiners should be left in their positions and should work closely with us, reviewing reports as we review them and consulting with us and we with them as to improvements that may be put into effect. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis °.-4316, • Address by John G. Nichols, Chief, Examining Division, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation National_Asso. of Supervisors of State Banks 33rd Annual Convention, Baltimore, Md., October 1934 *********** Joint Examinations Due to the diversity of responsibilities fixed by Federal statutes upon this Corporation, and by state statutes upon the state authorities of the respective states, it is recognized that certain criticism has arisen in some quarters, regarding the duplication or multiplicity of examinations. Therefore, under the existing laws joint examinations appear essential and require the fullest cooperation between this Corpo-I ration and the state supervising authorities if the most satisfactory results are to be obtained. It must be remembered that Congress has imrosed upon the Federal De::osit Insurance Corporatim the duty of keeping itself currently and accurately informed regarding the conditions of all insured Fund-member banks, and justly so when consideration is given to the Corporation's liability in insuring deposits. In view of this, from the very inception of the examining program of the state non-member banks by this Corporation the examinations have of necessity been made on an asset appraisal basis. It is noteworthy that the banking laws of the several states vary to such an extent that an examination made in conformity with the statutory reeuirements of the respective states, does not ordinarily cover the scope or conform with the specific requirements imposed on this Corporation by the Congress. We fully realize and appreciate the difficulties you have encountered when arranging for joint examinations, joint conferences, and so on, which in many instances have certainly caused you to deviate from your customary program and practice. Due to the varying statutory requirements just mentioned and the recognized interruption of the usual program of the state authorities,IL2 method of mutual procedure in bank examinations has been developed,in cooperation with the commissioners of a number_g_ states, which has proven highly satisfactory. Such mutual procedure may TieTillustrated as follows: In those states where two examinations per annum are reeuired by statute, one joint examination is made with the state examiner which this Corporation conducts and writes the report. The state examiner joins in signing the report and the confidential section. Two reports are forwarded by the Corporation to the commissioner of banks, one copy for the commissioner's file (which contains the confidential section), and one copy for transmittal by the commissioner to the bank with his usual letter. This re-ort is considered as an examination by the state department and meets the requirements of the state law. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • - 2The second examination is made by the state department and that department Arites the report. Vihen the commissioner of banks so desires the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation joins with the state department in making this second examination, and if recuested, jcins in signing the report. Likewise in those states where only one examination is required by statute a similar mutual arrangement has been adopte& 7-hereby a joint examination with the Corporation's examiner and the state examiner is carried out in the same manner as first recited and which fulfills the statutory requirement of those states. ********** Standard Report Form This discussion suggests further the desirability of the adoption of a uniform report of examination by all bank superv'sing authorities--both State and Federal. In this connection I wish to 1,oint out that early this year the Federal Reserve Board, the Comptroller of the Currency and this cornoration made a study of all examination forms used by the twelve Federal Reserve Banks, the Comptroller's Office, trlis Corroration and the respective state banking departments in an effort to produce a report that would be uniform and satisfactory to all Federal authorities. The report now in use,with which you are familiar, was adopted. An identical form of report is in use by the Federal Reserve Board and the Coalptroller excert in features relating to the National Banking Act and the Federal Reserve Act essential for those authorities which are provided by insert schedules. We are informed that several states have already adopted this uniform report, and it is respectfully urged that serious consideration be given to this aubject, particularly in view of the mutual advantages that will naturally accrue, and the consecuent reduction in costs of making joint examinations. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ********* * • Discussion following speeches by F. D. I. C. Officials National Asso. of Supervisors of State Banks 33rd Annual Convention, Baltimore, Md., October 1934 0. H. Moberly (Missouri): Referring to the joint examination, I am quite in accord with the recommendations of Mr. Crowley. In Missouri we try to cooperate in joint examination. I find, however, tklat there ie some dissatisfaction or inconvenience in full cooperation,Llue to the fact that our examinPrs must not only earn their salary but also earn the expenses of the department and are forced to work a little more rapidly than the Corporation examiners, the CorIoration examiners making a complete report while at the banD If some provision could be made whereby they could operate more rapidly we would be very glad to cooperate more rully than in the past. I just offer that as a auggestion. Mr. Croydey: You mean our men hold your men up, because our men are slower? As a matter of fact, it should be our men are ahead of yours Mr. Nichols: One difficulty is that our report is much longer than the state report and to cover the ground it does take longer, sometimes Ft day longer, to make the examination report of the bank. A great deal of that report does have to be completed in the bank, a man can't take it out and finish it in his room. The answer is, I think, the adoption of a uniform report, then his examiners will have to stay as long as our examiners. J. A. Broderick (New York): I wonder rhy you can't simplify your %report? I don't think any bank is justified in prolonging an examination just because you have a very long report. The idea of a report is to show the condition of an institution, to make comments on such loans as are necessary, to get information in regard to the earnings and to give details as to legal violations. If I may say, the reason why New York State will not adopt the uniform report is because we believe a simplified report is necessary, one that can be readily understood by the directors of an institution. The comment of directors is that it takes some time to understand an examination report and to find out what is vitally necessary to them. I believe in a simplified form of report, and I believe examiners should furnish that to them, but I do not think every question under the sun should be answered by the examiners. In the reports throughout the country--most of the questions are not necessarY in the examination report if the examiner is doing his duty. He knolks how many have attended directors meetings and of any violations. I think the directors of the institutions are just as much interested in the report as the examiners are. I think the examination report should be put in such a form that the directors can readily understand violations and criticism in regard to loans, and let us drop the statistical and other information for a special examination if necessary, instead of extending the examination, so an equal amount of time will be taken by both. Let us find some way of making examinations which are more effective than in https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ,! A IA 11 V, r" 4 ft:: the past, and not have most of the examiner's time taken in filling in his reports with figures in uhich no one is interested. Mr. Crowley: Don't you think the information the examiner should get for the chief examiner is a knowledge of bank attendance of directors, etc.? Mr. Broderick: An examiner always has information he would like to convey to the chief examiner and that should be rut in the ret'ort with salient features going back to the directors. I believe in the education of directors as well as the Department, but from an examiner's standpoint, many examiners are more disturbed about filling out the auestions on the report than they are in the condition of the institution. I think it is very easy, Mr. Crowley, to show auickly to the examining staff and supervising directors, on a very fer sheets, the results of an examination. Mr. Crowley: Te are perfectly willing to simplify if by simplification we do not eliminate the necessary information. Mr. Broderick: You have a good deal of information there, Mr. Crowley, that is not necessary and only takes up time. My comments are not made as Superintendent of Banks but as an examiner of long standing. M. E. Bristow (Virginia): As one of the supervisors who would favor uniformity of forms, it would be helpful if we had an onportunity to discuss the forms that are to be put in use. I would like very much to see our forms uniform with yuurs (FDIC). With the forms you have already adopted, the supervisors haven't had an opportunity of being heard or offering suggestions. Of course I see the viewpoint expressed, and I believe the examiners' reports should be as brief as nossinle and limited to 7etting facts more than statistical information. That should be done at the office. D. W. Bates (Iowa): Mr. Chairman, I am not opposed to the appointment of the committee, but I think the committee at this stage would be entirely useless. The form of report has been adopted and ,,ut in use and now a committee to reform that will just retard progress in my opinion. I am down next to Missouri, where Mr. Moberly comes from. I join with him in what he has to say about the report. Most of us (at least in my state) the department is supported by the compensation that the examiner gets in examining these institutions. Chen we send an examiner out to examine a bank we expect him to pay his way as well as the expenses of the o fice, and also expect him to do his duty as required under the 1Rw. :i He is seat out to examine the bank, but he isn't sent out to get a statistical report to be filed in the archives in Washin7ton. I do not believe it is necessary, to find out whether a https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • 7 ""' bank is sound, to have as much in the report as the reports adopted contain. I think they should be simplified. If the F. D. I. C. requires all of the information that is called for by these reports I think that information should be aside from the examination proper of the bank and if the F. D. I. C. desires that information they should get it following the proper examination of the bank, and let their examiner continue so that ours may be released when the joint examination of the bank proper is made. '-'1 We are very grateful for the F. D. I. C. so far, -- if they are making examinations without cost to us, but I can't tell how lone that may continue and certainly it would be F very great drain on our treasury if we had to pay in the future for these examinations, if they are going to prolong them as long as it takes to make the examination L-11°-: . I am not offering this as a criticism, because I join in what has been said in perfect unanimity between our department and the department in Washington. Nobody, I think, can say he has had any better treatment at the hands of those in charge of the F. D. I. C. than we have. hnve done our best to cooperate, and I think we have--I hope so at any rate, but I do say this, that the examination or report must be simplified in some manner because of the time it takes to make an examination of the bank. Unless it is done the joint exanilmtions, Thich we have been carrying on dn Iowa very satisfactorily, will have to cease because of the expense and time consumed in making the examination. Ourney P. Hood (North Carolina): Our experience in North Carolina: in t'e old days we would send out two men to examine a small bank, and ey 1,ould spend one day in the bank and two days in the office, and the management was under the impression we were charging them three times as much for the examination as it cost. In my opinion every examination should be completed at the bank. Iow, the F. D. I. C. sends two men and ve send one man, and it takes three days to examine the bank and the result is that the examination costs us less under the present system than it did under the old syste ..:3 . FurLher, as Commissioner of Banks, we need all the statistical information in the report and bank management, and these reports are helpful to us--they cost us less money and we are glad that they are as lonu as they are. Cooperation of the Department with the F. D. I. C. and the cooperation of the F. D. I. C. witn our Department has been perfect. Their work has reestablished in our state a real State Bankinp- System. R. E. Gormley (Georgia): Mr. Crowley, Gentlemen: I listened with a great aeal of interest to the discussion this morning, and if I may be permitted to humbly offer a auggestion or thought which may occur to you as radical, I would like to do so. It occurs to me that if the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -4 F. D. I. C. could accept the examinations of the various State Banking Departments--take in Georgia, I have a staff of five for makinp examinations, against the Federal Reserve, National Banking and those of the F. D. I. C., and it seems to me there should be an amendment to the F. D. I. C. Act to permit the corporation to accept our form of examination. Mr. Crowley: I would like to answer that. You are a fine bunch of fellows and we have high regard for you, but we aren't going that far. You couldn't expect us to insure your banks and not be able to know what is going on. Mr. Gormley: You insure national banks without that examination. Mr. Crowley: Yes, but we have some Federal control there. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ******* SOURCE: MINUTES OF YED. RES. AGENTS' CONFERENCE-Wash. iilay 1934 (ConfiCential) 4. EXAMINATION, SUPERVISION, AND REGULATION. (Mr. Wood led discussion.) (18) Topic 4-B. Criticisms and corrections to be considered direct with bank or through State authorities. Mr. Wood read the following statement, which was adopted: "Letters of criticism or correction should be written directly to the banks. Relatione with State supervising authorities should be close and cordial. There should be whole-hearted cooperation at all times. State supervisors, however, cannot fairly be expected to assume our reFoonsibilites. "Prior to June 16, 1933, there might have been some just qUestion as to the extent, if any, to which we should exercise supervision. With the passage of the Banking Act of 1933, however, we are charged with certain responsibilities that require us to exercise direct and definite supervisory relations with State member banks. Whether we like it or not, we are 'in the army now.' "Of course, we must be careful to refrain from invading the field of State superviscrs. This is not difficult, and in nearly all cases State authorities are really glad to have the benefit of our thorough examinations. "The report of examination should accurately and fairly disclose the condition of the bank examined, and recite in a constructive way, allitems of criticism. The letter of the Pederal Reserve Agent to the directors should also set out, in a constructive way, comments on corrections that need to be made. The bank management should be requested to advise the Federal Reserve Agent directly in reepect to the corrections made, or to be mede, or to furnieh him with a copy of the letter to the State supervising authority, containing such information. In nearly alleases, the managements report direct to the Federal Reserve Agents." https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis r'' _A. II t-I • • SOURCE: REPORT ON BANKS OF DEPOSIT & DISCOUNT, ETC. - N.Y. 1934 Pages6 and 7 BRANCH BkNKING The progress which has been made in the extension of branch banking on what is believed to be a sound basis, has been largely due to the policy of cooperation which has existed between the state and national authorities in the administration of the Stephens Act and the branch banking provisions of the federal statutes. Arrangements have been made whereby no branch authorization is issued until after consideration has been given to any other applications pending before either state or federal authorities for branches in the same eommunity. In the granting of applications, careful study has been made of the needs of the communities to be served and the facilities of all applicants to satisfy such needs. No branch has yet been authorized to either a state or national institution except with the approval of both state and national authorities: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ' /7, 1654 SOURCE* ANHUI EEPOFT OS BAAL OF DEPOSIT Sr Discom, ETC. - 11.Y. 1953 !Amyl (Banking Board) CO..I BANKS-EMERGENCY MEASURE& Despite the importance of institutions organised to assemble small savings, it muat be recognized that the commercial bania is the centerpiece of our credit structure. New bank credit cones into being largely as a consequence of the lending and investing. acttvities of commercial banka, and it is thie credit which eon. etitutes the country's principal exchange media. It is this credit which becomes the income of the wage earners and other classes who utilize savings institutions as depositories for their savinga. Any obstacle to the free flow of oommercial bank credit must inevitably affect the condition of all types of banking institutions. There are not many powere of the flanking Board which nay be directly eaployed to prevent undesirable expansions and contractions in the total outstandinc volume of commerciel bank credit. One such power was bestowed upon the Board, however, at the date of its inception, end that ie to regulate the method and standards "for the valuation of the assets* of institutione under the supervision of the banking department. In thf: exerci5e of thiv!, power the Board has striven to avAd the narrow definitions of asset values that otherwise might have been employed in euca a n14 as to interfere with the normal flow of bank credit. // After the declaration of a bank holiday' by the Governor of this btate in the early part of march, other occasions vrose for Ulfencouragement by the Board of devices to stem the tide of panic contraction. When it appeered probable that there might be general reliance throughout the country upon scrip as an emergensy currency, the Board foresaw the danger that much of this scrip might not circulate beyond the confines of reetricted srees. At its nesting of March 6, 1953, the Board adopted the folLowing resolutions *Resolved, That the Banking Board recommends that the &Cate be prepared, in the event that the national Government does not take care of the situation, to provide for sone medium to circulate as currency throuch the State at 1Frge • • • •* By resolution of March 8, 1953, the i:loard approved the issuanse of an authorisation certificate to "The Emergency Gertificet Cora poration of New Iork." Fortunately, the provieions of the Bank Conservation Act have thus far at leant evoided the neeessity of the functioning of this cor.;)oretion. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis cveV7 SOURCE: MINUTES OF FED. RES. AGENTS' CONFERENCE-Wash. Nov. 1932 (Confidential) Pages 11-1k (?)---Pages not numbered. CURRENT PROBLEMS IN RELATION TO MEMBER BANKS * * ** * * * (32) Topic 4-F. Relations between Federal reserve banks and national and State examining departments. - gr. Stevens. Topic 4-G. Examinations by ederal reserve bank examiners vs. subsequent continuing personal calls by such representatives of the Federal reserve bank in the nature of assistance in adjusting unsatisfactory conditions and endeavoring to correct errors of management. - Mr. Stevens. The above two topics wore considered together. following comments: Mr. Stevens made the "It is obvious that the Federal reserve banks, occupying a position of sponsorship for their members, should maintain close and friendly relations with the supervising authorities., both State and national, under whose auspices the examinations of these banks are made. We have tried not to put ourselves in a position where we could be criticized for overriding the authority of the supervising departments and our first approach as to corrective measures is always througL the department itself.. We have found that the departments are ready and willing to give us information as to what measures they are taking and to welcome our cooperation. In certain States they seem to be willing for us to go direct to the banks urging our views as to what should be done in man instances. "by its very nature an examination is critical in its essence. Indeed, under present day conditions, an examination and report to the management and to the board of directors in the nature of criticisms too often may lead to their discouragement and loss of morale, at a time when they are waging a hard fight to exist. It seems to me that it is important that we in the Federal reserve banks should follow up corrective measures in a constructive end helpful way. We should show that the sponsorship of the.Federal reserve bank means e friendly and helpful interest in their difficulties, rather than merely a criticism of their actions. - "I have instructed our examiners from time to time between examinations to make personal calls on banks in unsatisfactory condition, and if advisable to call in the officers and directors from time to time with a view of helping -Lem work out their problems." In the discussion of these subjects, attention was called to the Federal Reserve Board's Regulation H, which indicates that Federal reserve examiners shall act with the examination staff of the Stete, and to the board's letter of July 26, 1930, X-6665, which stated among other things: "If this supervision is not conducted by State authorities, the Federal heserve Agent iE directed to taKe https://fraser.stlouisfed.org sucn action as in nis opinion will oischarge the responsibiLities of the Boerd"; Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ) _ _ ! • • • • "1, •• • _ Sv beferandus let OS on the leport of the ircsial Committee ea lambing. Part TI thember of Cummerse of the Us 26 As Doseiber 2, 1931 411maittse Soper% The Ccomittee prommote a nombor of reseassedatioss milk mord te bran& benkingpshieh it considOro te he ate of tho mot importmet snbloots treated in its rerort. The roesassadatteas, followed as a gawp by supporting statesesta, arc 4) National banks, unlimited by restrictions of state laws, should bs permitted by federal stalest* te establish statewide bremehee, provided that in any state ematisming to prabibit statewide branches ef state blahs the federal statute Amid apt booms effective for a period of six mouths after its enactments (P) Amy grant of hrwsch bathing powers te national books should be given alms to state member twnhe et the reserve system. elbjemt te eemeurrense of state, lam (3) Statutory permission to somber basks to establish breaches Ohonld bo omaditioned apes the arpatval admiaistrativo authorities, subject to definite requirement that the 'vital of a tram& Aystom be at least the aggregate of the etpital that would be required if each banking office iM the system ammo am independent nAtiomml bank* (4) Administrative motheritios Should be vented pevor to reiJuire showing im owe of the application for a brim* that the general assettiss of the *mash system, as well as the semditiems umda.1140k the bras& mould operate, imdteate the probability sof smOSsomill addatasesse tof the prorated hoemeh4 (S) lho right te setablish a brow* in mar giveu Iceation withia the beendhing arm, should be dallied if there is sm administrative fladimg that the banking requirements or the district of the prorated breath are being adegmately serwieedo (111) There shovld be legislative grant of discretion to the administrative authorities te recaps suitable maim ef tatentimm te establish a de novo brooch or to ae uire branches, by merger, AO well so of discretioa to withhold final approval for a reacenable period of tine. (T) Subject to the coneurramee of the rederal losterre Board, the authority to permit or deny branches should he gives to the isiptrollor of the Onrres47 with rawest to aational busks and te the realm tants with reepoot to state swim Illets• https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis * * * * *** * irot3 TOUT Committee believes, however, thot Imo reed leo imprevemeet of nnr benktv situation is the orderly amd serefully rogplated development of bran& beekias. The loss of the indopsodeat states of some boas, mot mow in a falsities to proteet rs14 the safety or the bank depositor or to fhrnish edeqmote banking realities te their esimmeities„ geed result in Nonerit if *awe beaks iheold be oeuverted tato bromehes of strums bombs. /t ha* also beams generally reeeseieed that there meet be °arena avoidance of tbe erestion or nemesemserf inotitatimmilbelher they be unit OP branch banks• Consierable hardship has teem esperieweed emee sammmeities Imeoesse of the partial or complete break-deem of their hankies Im instanses it is difficult, if net tupeleible, for lesal Interests to assume the entire burden of re-establisbamg seeded bulks er to protest adequately the capital structure and deposits of soletiog beams, In a regrettable member of eases, in the absence of brae* beoblas, weak national amd etate bank* samtimma became. no svailable mesas offer to affiliate them with stronf institutieuv6 Breath banking would provide a solution to most of these probloise thremSh enabling stress, orallmammapd institutions to invite existine basks to melhise with thee end elremethma the facilities offered the public, iselndies the establishment of sace Wiese as might be rw-uirod in the sealler tome anti villaipre• The Committee bog reviewed studies of brae& basking amide hers and *breed, and **waled*. that doubts as to its breeder applitability to oar reaniveemets are unwarranted amd smst yield to the needs of the present sitsa, time It believes, mereemes$ that breech leaking, if it is to be effeetive, east be so devised that soeh breashims ores shall Webs& busiomps °enter* Polasssing adogwate finammial strength mad 'hall sabres. a reasonable diver,elAY af agricultural, besiege* sod bminstrial enterprises., While the most desirable diversi,fleatiee my set be secured in all testssess, the Committee believes thst atate-wide bras& bookies will greatly otromplisi the feneral situation and vill provide 1m a great sway states the memo sefrieient banking stabllity• amuse of the rrebibitioes upon state-mide bresdh booking by nbtional and state member bELnks of the federal reserve system, Chi* furnieh about sixty per sent or the bookies resource* of the *pantry, mod the fact that either limited or no bremehtms privileges are permitted state benkr in many state* where rellpf is seeded, it is imperative in the interest of sorters' imprevesewt branCh Waking legislatios pressed from Ike Camersee of the Waited States. * *• •* * * * * ** * * partieslar, it is of hisk importemmor that the properly operated unit bask Ada is adeqmately sereleg the rimsosial interests of its emosenity most met be sabjested to ummeoessetry sr eneesseideal oomrotition free mew Imam* banks established hy outside interests. Soamd beeking requires else that trranvb eystems shoull nst be built by rodkless esepetitive https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis s bidding for the Mere. of ex:hitting banks. If the lever.bemhed. sendition which exists in seme legalities is te be *voided elseshere* there Should be a eurb upse spy =bridled ?see for supremo/11y in both the nenher and eatemt of banking Wiese and epee these forms of gampetities Shish impel a balk te enter reluotestly epee bras& honking ia order be pretest its serrespeedmat twain business or te matmtain its poeities is the fimemoial stree4mtes * * * * * * It weld be fruitless, therefOre, te propose bon* telkimg as a streegthenUggessure without requiring that there be dememeireted onfAxoity of mitiolossit te elope with the prebiame esufeentimg it Ware may hank is alleged te endow ts beendh beeking4 Ne less impertmet is the riruiremeet thet Unit swear ts the spare. ties of brauebee should have usimpaired eepits1 feeds adequate te serve the need, of the egmennitieg in vhidh it does business. !a requiring the peseessiem ef adequate sapital, the Committee realities also that se effeetive sheik weld autsmstieelly be plaomilwatimilesiroble development ef been& beshiag. Mile favor is fame film the proposal that the eepital of a bras* ',sten iheeld not he 14bes thas the aggregate eepital that esuld be required if *elk bees* er the parent bank were an tadspeedent tuitional bank. the Committee be. lievee that the additional bread' bookie, powers shenli be devised with 'pedal attention te servicing the receiremeste 0111100. esemenitiee amd of emmil cities* lime lieited great ef accretion aight be given le administrative metberitiee te permit, under exceptional simennetemeest the estahliehment beenehee in sash oammonitiee if, for imstemes, pereet beak sem meet the eepital requiremeets of state law for tedepeedent state basks is sea parties. ler leeLtions. After its mosso ef the situations the Committee has semeluded that the may effestive meow la *ilk the above reeemmemdatiame solid be prowl: serried into draft. eneeptiag thee* regerdiag **pita remiremente, geed be to vset homed diseretiannm peelers in respeseible supervisory ofriciale te grunt or uithheld permission te engage la bran* bemkiag. In order that there sir be enifoseitr is the develepmast bees* beekime within the oonfisee the federal reserve metes, it is peepesed that se far as federal legielttien is senessued, the authority to pesseribe regulations affeetiag brindles of a national beak be vested tn the Comptreller ef the Curran", aid the smilloril, to preeeribe regniatiens &treating: banmehes of a state member bank be vested in the fedora reserve beak. subject In both instances to the review mod seem curremee of the Federal 1eserve Beard. 'he reserve banks sod the Federal leSOf., Ileard should maintais assionitative relationships with state superintendents of bombe amd ether state busking authorities is the matter of allowilg or dewing beemehes to state member beaks.• Misers. Adams, Jehnemni, Lenedelep Undaseasisditellkirtor are met la eseard with the reeenemadatien that a matiamel balk be granted the power te eetablieb, ender lisitatiens, etete.wide breed's. le thews states ia shielh state bona* are met permitted snob breashott mime state laws. Thar emPPert the Frinciple of state matemon, in relatiaa te breadb banks• Ir. lausdule regovds that be tikes this position for tbe reason, seeing https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 4Sete - Continued ethers, that sinee we hove easel state sod stational benikiag wets*, the aotomomy of the states Ohailit be remposted te the extent that emtlemal bombe sompetiog with Aide beaks desid set lee gives powers prohibited mike state lees to 'tate betake. ilbe observes that in resemitiem of this amtenomy Oestrus in the past has United the sights of natiemel teaks te en* as are permitted to sompeting state tasks sperating maw state legislations Re seetieme as emanrles the emestamet of illeetion 11-k of the 'Federal Deserve Act/ tm ehiek It is provide& that trust paters *hell not be emereised by aatioaal balk* *ore snob rower, will 'outrages, the *tate laws relative ts eompeting state banks mod trust companies, mod Santee of the Act whisk permits rather then compels sembership ef state Mike ia the federal more, system and allows smelt state banks te beeeme members evat thee* they are operating beemehes to an attest sot permitted matiemal bombes Milmeas filsorde that ite woold have preferred that the Committee report follow the sesolatiame ea brash basking, adopted by the aaeoutive Council of the Ameriese lemkers Asseelatiee ia April, 11414 te the effeet that unit basking lees skeelod he medifisd only to ea seta* lot mai peoult, *ere eseemeteen, Postiftsd6 emmatnity-mide teimmek bulking in nestrepolitom areas sommipweide been& bemkitv; in rural distriote. In every reaP4444 lismgerr he believes the enemy of the laws of the seperete etalso govermiag lormaCh balking *head be preserved. * ** * * 4 * * lire Robinson supports the Committees reemenemdation that eatiomal balks be alleged to establish state-eide twenabee. after a perio4, ia *tete* whose lane de se ,,preit state beaks to have eneh bromebee. He record* the opinion, however, that me nattered beak iheeld be .permitted te eistoplish a brew*. outside the eily of looatisme et the parent bank, emempt by taking ever es existleg usit bank 4r a beek airs* affiliate& with it, unless the breseili eetabaished in e ellr, toss OP it11.4. *tore there is no national or state beak regmlarly tommemetimg enrhomort benkimg Imeimese. Se believes mob a reetrictiem (smelt es padded is the Yealeattati ememdmemt te the Slue Atli prerecord in April, 19111 'heal te edisp4ed6 * _ ireimainidas The Committee resonated* that. (I) Prevision* of law am& empervielem should require grasp system, to battle as far as say be preetieable may astiesai sod state member bulks. make all of their eligible sompemente members ef the federal reserve epstmelp and facilitate the develops's% of biome& bemkimg within grew ernes, to the limit of legislative grants of power te pessese beemilmo6 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -5(2) Lesislatios Mould porhilit group banking systems from acquiring ad. ditional emponat beaks of sere Ibis one federal reserve distrieti unapt with special approval of reserve nutivritiee. (3) Legislation ahould require that the bunks *ad retinas et shielding sompany *lining or smatrolliag a natiosel Web sod/er a state member balk, abeam appibed prior or esbeeneet to sadi lagielatime, be mode silkiest to meminatise 11, the Oempleoller of Um amdlor the federal reserve setherities. lhere a group contains both mad nosmember beihm, the Forest eorporaties asd all itt oempossate Medd be sebOot to eammination by federal authorities,' (4) Insofar as sputa regulating eep le eroded for the purpose of sei.. Witte. emesimatimes ef group sipsins federal authorities Obelld be ampoterod to require adielmate reports *f oreditime of the group bunking merporaties sad of sash of its sompowate. (6) in the ease of peep balking formation holding shares of ate* of *no or mere siaboar beaks of the redeye' reserve metes, then sbeeld be statntory requiremeate for the ortablishmeet and maintemesse of selletle reserves, targeted in readily marbeamble negotiable assets, other thee bosh steaks, in order to assist the group spites in protecting the 'elven/ of its sempeammts. Is gement. the onset of sob reserves Mould le net less thee IS per cent of Oki bask's* capital epplered ommert that in oases where dembie.. liability attadies directly to the stook of the grow bothieg seeperatiot somewhat smaller reserves might be &slanted. lb* reserves Obseld sot be available as security for any fore of pledge ement fer the purposes ''or which the reeervee are required. (6) Legislation should require that after a reasonable tine ne omnipotent of a group basking erstem would lend upon the ammourliciwt ibe stock of the hafts, sempair of the group system. (7) A sempenet balk fe a group mates OWL* be prevemted by law fres lending to amethl,r osepotent of the same poop awe them 1(0 per cent, of the lamas. bases eapital old surpbms. Its Inas to all somponate of a grasp erotism ghesld be limited by lav to a reassemble provortint say SD per natio of its eapital and serpbes. All lean of eme eseponest bask to anther see. pease% sbeald be required its be seemed adeleate1y mad Pn14 tor reedil, marbm'able seenities er paper ef the type sediseseetable w a reserve bemb4 (6) sapital issues of a beldimg sempory of a group hankies motes &sad emerteed ts see slam of otoOki so debentures or other bead isnot should be permitted. 0) Federal lor Ahead require that asy endertaking to merge or to offset other amalgamation of lie stock interests of tee or mere grew booking systems, contaisingestionl sr state member tombs as sempeents, be sihissied to the ommient of the federal supervisory euthorities• (10) Federal law volisim that oply group bunking systole coataising ufttiemal beak or state menhor bask soneeests, be prohibited from owning or https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis .0. 4 0. controlling the steak et a corporation not emmagol te usual business for banking unless it hes the permission of federal authorities vested with pOWar to sunerviso hashing. (11) Upon a ftedieg by the Federal %serve Board thRt the eoupossa to Of one or more group Spots** mentrol the eleetion of directors of a federal renerv9 tmalk to, the eitrbiett of' the interests of other member banks, the board "sold have power to Limit or suspend the voting prtvileges of swab group esepeasete. * * ** **** Se business of a corporation which *patrols banks throne) stock oweership pertekee so much of the eater* of banking itself thbt it is prop*? to amtdest it to yublic regulation similar to that imposed upon banking institutional. If such regulatiom is to be *Motive, eupervisory authoritiee meet bees pees, to inspect ea& aospenent of a group systen in addition to the holding esupeur, A single holding amapammr am contra motional banks end menher amid miasmember state bulks of the Nodose' reserve *Woo. Its national banks would be smbjest to the supervision of the Gemptroller of the Curremay, as well as of the tOderel reserve anthoritieso sod Its state banks to the sapervision of tbe antbsritios of the states In whisk the banks are located as veil as of reserve authorities if member beaks. If ite eational basks and state member banks are Issated le nere thee sne federal reserve district, they meld be subject to the esPervisies of Ito reserve amthorities of their reerective distriets. * * * * ***** I% allow grew baskiag to develop under diverse lave and peculation. silk smsponents subjeot to examinations by different sets of authorities, fedmill and state, presents possibilities of grove &Woe through shifting of asseis sed throedh failure or supervisory authorities to diseern the *fleets of see ose. peesetin althlittill wpm the safety sad strung% of other eonponmnts. rt is desirable that all seeher banks of tbs Morel reserve system and the system itself be protected tree seehmesses Vat alglit be visited upea lbs. through improper operstions esemieember bulks met sew subject to *sutra sepervioisn. If group bank organisations are to be permitted to include mow weak beaks, or through diversity oP law cad revelations to visit upon entire ',stems in am aggravated manner the veekneeees that um develop in seme eeppememts, grave bare would recruit to bank depositors and to largo gelation' in Ala sea erste** are eperating, Unregulated group limiktig hes such petentialitiee of oboes that so far as irsable its development ehenld be related ta the public interest to the intim, growth sled solidarity et the national beekteg end federal re. serve systems. •* 4—* * 10 sommtUar eppareet that the capitol structure of a group bashing orpenientisu, meads of obtaining its eporating feeds, sod the establishment amid potecties of suitable reserves should meters to rigid otsederds applicable to banking,. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis * *- * * * * * * * * «. ft * * * * * * The prohibitions whisk gemerally exist against the making of loans by * bask upon the security of Its ewe stook should be recognised in relation to the stook of a holding compamr• * * * * * ** * In its discussion of breach banking. earlier presented, the =mattes has resommonded that administrative awtheritims gheald be permitted to require a Ohewiag, in same of the application for ttle right to est6blish a brneeh, that the gsmerel emmditime of the breech system as well :-.15 the osmditiees wader which ths boom& essai eperute ludieate tbo probability of its suceeesf01 eainteasees: that the power to establish broad' at any gives legation withis a breeghlag area should be printed may after ea administrative Modiug that emether boa, with or without bromghes, is not simemotely servicing lbw bolikkag requirements of the district of the proposed bramiho end that fedora' supervisory authoritiss shield be vested with nowt? to preseribe regulatiome with respect to the greeting ef branch bAnking It is only eonststents therefore, to usgs that group beiblug systoles Should be subject to similar re-uirements when they uniertako to add sdditional oseponent beaks.. * rt. * *** * In the asemittses judgment It is highly desirable to prevent group bknking spOtossip insofar as they eau be made msonable to federal low and mulattoes, frus eugaging in extensive, diverse latorests outsids of the usual field *f https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis *0** * *** • SOURCE: 17th ANNUAL REPORT, FED. RES. BOARD-1930 Pages U7-228 RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FEDELAL ADVISORY COUNCIL FEBRUARY 18, 1930 TOPIC.--H.R. 7966 (McFadden bill). Recommendation.--The Federal Advisory Council having been requested by the Federal Reserve Board to give consideretion to H.R. 7966 begs to report that it is opposed to most of the provisions of this bill. (1) The council sees no value in giving the Comptroller of the Currency authority to examine Federal reserve banks. It believes that this authority should continue to reside in the Federal Reserve Board, as provided for in the Federal reserve act. The board has a staff speciElly trained to perform this function and it has been able thereby to harmonize the operations of the Federal reserve banks under its supervision. (2) The council believes there is decided objection to the examination of State banks and trust companies by the Comptroller of the Currency. The result of such activity would be an unnecessary multiplicity of examinations and probable resentment on the part of State banking departments. The present system of examinations by State officials, supplemented when necessary by an examination by the Federal reserve authorities, bas resulted in satisfactory cooperation between the State and Federal reserve examiners. (3) The suggestion that the expenses of the examinetion shell be borne by the Federel reserve banks would, if carried out, result in one more compelling reason for more active participation on the part of the Federal reserve banks in the money market for the purpose of increasing their earnings to meet the burden of this additional expense. (4) The council deems it unnecessary to provide for a special examination of the condition of any Federal reserve bank, and, in any event, would consider it desirable to have an application to do so supported by more than 10 member banks. (5) // In the opinion of the council the officers end board of directors of the several Federal reserve banks by reason of their intimate contact with member banks are better qualified to judge the desirability of a given bank acting in a fiduciary capacity than iE the Comptroller of the Currency. Consequently it can find no merit in the proposal to transfer from the Federal Reserve Board to the Comptroller of the Currency the power to grant permission to a national bank to act in a fiduciary capacity. ,t https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis isoni3 X-6665 July 26, 1930. SUBJECT: Examination of Member Banks. Dear Sir: By an act approved by the President under date of June 26, 1930, Section 9 of the Federal Reserve Act as amended and the third paragraph of Section 5240 of the United States Revised Statutes, as amended by Section 21 of the Federal Reserve Act, was further amended so as to provide that the expenses of all examinations made by Federal reserve banks may., in the discretion of the Federal Reserve Board, be assessed against the banks examined and, when so assessed, shall be paid by the banks examined. In view of this amendment. the Federal Reserve Board has reconsidered and revised the resolutions adopted by it on October 10, 1928, (set out in X-6223 dated January 26, 1929) so as to read as follows: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis TEE IT RESOLVED, That the Federal Reserve Board recognizes its duty under the Federal Reserve Act to keep itself informed as to the condition of all member banks; "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. That the Board is of the opinion that it is justified in relying upon the Comptroller of the Currency for such information as to national banks; "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That whenever the reports of examination of State member banks furnished by the State authorities are not deemed satisfactory either to the Federal reserve bank of the district concerned or to the Federal Reserve Board. the Federal reserve bank or the Board shall cause to be made at least one examina tion or investigation each year of such Character as to furnish satisfactory information; "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That any entry of a member bank made for the purpose of informing the Federal reserve bank and the Federal Reserve Board, (1) rhether the member bank is complying with the terms of the Federal Reserve Act, the Regulations of the Federal Reserve Board and the conditions of its membership in the Federal Reserve System and/or (2) as to the loan and investment practices X-6665 -2-. ond policies of the member bank and whether its uses of Federal reserve credit facilities are consistent with the purposes of the Federal Reserve Act, as these h,..tve been or may be defined by the Federal Reserve Board, shall not be termed an examination.o The Federal reserve agents are charged with the duty of seeing to it that the Board's views, as covered in the above resolutions, are carried uut in their respectivo districts. This does not mean that the Board is attempting to relieve itself of responsibility and it will continue, through its examining force, to check carefully the Federal reserve agents' examination departments. While the Board realizes that it is not possible to lay down a uniform detailed procedure applicable to each Federal reserve district, the following instructions will serve as a guide to the Federal reserve agents in the performance of their duties: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1. The Comptroller of the Currency is a member of the Federal Reserve Board and under the law is charged with the responsibility of enforcing the terms of the National Bank Act and also of the Federal Reserve Act. The Board therefore relies upon the Comptroller of the Currency to perform his duties and it will not be necessary for the Federal reserve agent tc duplicate the work. 2. In the opiaion of the Board, State reports of examination can be relied upon in the great majority of cases to furnish the necessary information to the agents. 3. If a State examination is unsatisfactory, and an investigation will not provide sufficient information upon which the agents may act intelligently, a complete examination should be made for which the member bank shauld be charged. It is realized, however, that in same instances unusual circumstances may exist which would warrant the Board's exercising the discretion vested in it under the recent amendment and waiving charges for specific examinations. Any case which, in the opiaion of the Federal reserve agent, warrants such special consideration should be submitted to the Board in advance, with a complete statement of the reasons why it is considered desirable to have the examination charges waived by the Board. Examinations of State banks incident to their admission to membership in the System may be made without charge. X,-6665 -3- 4. Any investigation of a member bank made for the purpose mentioned in the last paragraph of the resolution of the Board set out above may be conducted by the Federal reserve agent rithaut charge and without reference to the Board. 5. The Federal reserve agent will continue to furnish the Board with an analysis on F. R. B. Form 212 of each state member bank examination report received by him whether made by State authorities or under his own supervision, unless in some exceptional case it is desired that the Board should have before it the camplete report of examination. 6. If the Federal reserve agent has evidence in the form of letters or otherwise, that officers and directors of State member banks have had their attention called to violations of the law and unsound banking practices by State authorities, it is not necessary for the agent to duplicate this work. 7. If this supervision is not conducted by State authorities the Federal reserve agent is directed to take such action, as in his opinion, rill discharge the responsibilities of the Board. 8. When a State member bank fails to correct irregularities within a reasonable time so as to show material improvement in its condition, the Federal reserve agent will be expected to lay the information before the directors of his bank and ask them to make a formal recommendation to the Federal Reserve Board, with reasons, as to rhether or not the State member bank should continue as a meMbere This letter supersedes and repeals the letter of January 26, 1929 (1-6223) on the same subject. Very truly yours, R. A. Young, Governor. TO ALL FFZERAL RESERVE AGMTTS. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis tAi Answer or Jacksonville Branch (Atlanta Bank), to X-9115 - In File !!?.7.-5 k ' ,t• S. 2atters affectAng admission of nonaember banks to Federal reserve syAem. (a) We are opposed to nonmember banks being permitted to charge exchange after they beclme member banks. (b) Nonmember banks becoming members should comply with the present rules, regulations and conditions now ritplying to member banks; or, in other -words, they should not be given any special privileges. (c) Extension of membership to banks lochted in insular possessions only should be permitted. Banks in foreign countries should not be allowed membership. We recommend that the Federal Reserve Board cause a Call Loan Department to be estsblished in New York that would permit member banks to make loans in 3er York through said agency, and require every inember placing call loans in lew York to make them through the Federal reserve agency. This in our opinion would give the Federal Reserve Board a better knowledge of and control over the securities market and afford members this service at a minimum risk and expense. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis :107013, Pe7tonts Answer, P-2e-Fs, to X-0115 In File 327.-3 ** * ***** 9. B. Examination of Banks 1. It would be desirable to centralize the control of examination of becks in the hands of a Natienal committee. This Ex,,.mining Committee would consist of one repreeentative each fro73 the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the FPderal Reserve Board, the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, who, together with four men elected by the National Association of Bank Supervisors of the United States, would elect one additional member. The Examining Committee should control and Kiake all exaeinations of banks in the United States, all represented organizations to be allowed to use these examinitions as they deemed fit; this Committee to formulate all procedure and oversee the rork. 2 . In view of the fact that the Federal Reserve Bo,:.- .rd grants trust porers, the Federal Reserve Board should have the power to take away trust po-eers, and this oller should cover both National and State Aember banks, the natural corollary to which would be that the Federal Reserve Board, through the Federal Reserve examining agency, should make examinaJ tions of National as well as State trust companies. '1/ C. Other Relations with Commercial Banks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The Federal Reserve Board should alter the form of published bank statement in use by member lassiks so that such statemente woul] give the actu31 present appraised values of assets, :ind so that the titles of assets would give the public a clearer idea of just what classes of assets are being carried by the bank such as pledged assets, second mortgages and contracts, and defaulted bonds. 1 4. The Federal Deposit Insurance\Corporation should Charge for its examiantions so that the non-member banks will have no advantage over the State member banks in this matter if we begin charging for our examinations. L____ 5. Regulation D should be changed to avoid the conflict with Regulation Q by eliminating the provision that certain tLie deposits must be classified as demand deposits within thirty days of maturity. The amount involved for reserve pur7)oses as to each bank is comparatively small. The change would eliminate mach confusion and expense inciJent to the reserve calculations, maintenance of records, etc., in country banks. This is one of the most irritating linor regulsti3ns and causes a great aass of corrective correspondence. * * * * *V7001:5 r 4.0 6. Bankers are burdened with the preparation of too many reports. For instance, a State Member bank is required to report its earnings and dividends to the Federal Reserve Bank, to the State streervising authorities, to the Federal Income Tax department, and the State Income Tax department. While the banker must necessarily file all such reports, it would seem that the Federal Reserve Board might make arrangements with all supervising mthorities for the adoption of a uniform set of figures with reference to earnings and dividends. In this way, the banker would be required to compile only one set of figures. In this connection, it would seem proper to change from two semi-annual earnings and dividends rerorts to one annual report for both National and State banks. The semi- / annual figures are almost never uped except il co4binations to provide figures for the full calendar year. 7. Called reports are unnecessarily detailed and. contain several schedules which are probably never used. We suggest that the present form be modified to eliminate unnecessary schedules, an,i that these long forms be required only twice a year. For the intervening two calls, banks should be allowed to prepare only the short form for Publication. Supervising authorities with tro comnlete ealled reports and tie examinations for each bank, annually, would have sufficient information for administrative purposes. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis *** * ***** ,IMIIM1111.111111,11111,, „ ihrsersolaa to the Pawl A Milt *Maim et lemelmetioas• to ULLA is memoractkie ea the appliaation Tottag Tars PrOISS ' ta Jet , veto to Irtertbeeet Saamosparatisa.* liessepollast 11laasaits Federal lleserm 11Istriet awe 211, 19811. GArtalor 11. Perry, Vice Preoltaat of the & limiorre lama essorip vegasstilag permits to vete Ike stedk , Ihe rTit iltitasal *ask ot Appleton, WA*.Illasesota. mat lbribmeetera lank of Dane% balmoset illammoota. at aectiess et shareheldera to be held ea or before October le .1.336. by the Dollowlag imarpesses *I. Ile *ppm,e plea et raergamilastime at the above named beak to be ofteetod Vir taw matimal bolt la vainnterf ligeldstkne or— samisimt SSW Mate Stet oder the lams at lb* Stato of Idaimootat soder tbe ammo ot•••(1) tt)•• * with & anittel. surplus aid undivided pleats at not lees this••(I) (2)• •respeetivelye* (1) ellarthwastsea hate Seek of Appleton.* 6,15.000. 01080011, mad Mortionstibril NW* Sisk et istiarike 04000, *MO. ad SSA& *Se la Sago the shave meet lathenal Seek la inbuilt's? 114aliatismo elh euthertee the Isramster mat seaverameo se el% asoote et the Illatianal leak to the Mato Rank, subjest to all at the liabillties et the Illittonal leak. *4. 10) 111111bNise UV sat all other soils* asseasary ar proper in emeasellea toith irobantemy 3,14ptidetion et the Notional bake the osimaisatiaa at *a State leak mat the assliameat ameeta to. sad aseaspties ot liabilitlas by, the State IX• lattalIPS dated Noe IN. leat. Aasietent redosol Reserve Meat SIMMS reammseaded that the limited votlag peemits be mated. rtt• figalagiatajUINNAMEM It to raesemeadad that a United permit be tossed ainbirtaial the applicant to veto the stook shish it ems we mistrals se Me Mot Satioaal leak at agplitsail Pasts% Illansoots mad L sae ilortlivssimt latiesaal Bolt ot imiess. Iliesat/ 1 2 Illaaseets ow•ring the PurP00111 IPot forth Bastian X et Otte tommoreedesi prwidei that all estims tabs' shall be la meoordsame with Axes patio/este!, to the Comptroller et lho corral". rirt. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Jew, " ICOR liro files of the Organisation Division of the empty"Uses Wise ladle re• este that the plans for liquidating the eationel basks Ism born approved• APPorsistat the ream tar liquidation of the astiosal banks owl siganisiog Oats broke to easeeed thee lo 'be ananded kat *blab matresi the sarplas et netiaael bad. to be brewslit up to 1030 et the eepitel. obi* wag malt la ovemeapitoilisatien in be* inetaneass lbe Wort evailaide reports et anosissilAn show the fellotirgt s 4dm t ma jai louse *pita steak ilosplue Ifatividoll petits lassorre for eratingensios. otos Tetra sepitel ativolaima Mot appreoletilou 111 essurittes tom Lease olessitiod lam Adjusted capital etrustire Depeeite MOW SOO 4,11115 $10.000 . 4 000 SAS 4"iiit 415101 ligit litIle WO °Will 2?1,441 MAI adjusted *pita structure to total deposits 10 la in both lettere fro% the Till* President et the applieent it was stateir silo note that under OW prortsious of emetion SIM at the Devised Statute. so saandel by Illestion 11131 Co) of the Ilhaddas Mt et 1965 it pew id** that a belting earrpony affiliate *oh wittlont dlotainistg • voting peratittivsta in favor of plowing the sameistion in volintery lignididion er taking! ever other settee pertainirg to the vItwAsiir lignidation at MIA 41111101itettall*. iv in tbe *Satan of the Issid of lkosemero of the Palma Ineerne *sten the onion shore outLined la addition to the sleeks of the Noswarely *ether maim pertainieg time& Mak in frobrobwr 141.1Alation to the vaanntary liquidation* and no Vag paean to reoptivedip se would be glad to he advised ef the ruling of the Nerd en this areetleas in order that Iso rag sotto& eemneol ter DerisC. on the gustiest at en eaLlAily et vet*: upon *see rotten without a voting persile. Ike Semi hes net authorised tie lasionee et a gonaral votive permit le lierihrselt liseesrpseatiess flineideration of the teausso et ash permit hos been deferred la eesount of 4pemotiaeis as le ensgeosit Old https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis BeepeolftL7, sebnitted. *11X=*lia" eendittono May DO, 1956 MFAOPANDUM FOR THE ORGANIZATION Drvisms: Re: Liquidation of 'The First National Bank of Appletose, Appleton, Minnesota. The last report of sommiaation of The First National Bank of Appletoa eampleted March 10, 1956, shows it to be solvent, and inasmuch as a new State bank is to be organiTed to succeed the National bank, it is recommended that it be permitted to go into liquidation. This bank is a member of the Northwest Bancorporation and while the records do not indicate the reason for liquidation, it is probable that this action is being taken on account of the law requiring the surplus fund to be built up to the amount of the capital, in which event the bank would be greatly over—capitalized. This is probably the reason a new State bank is to be organised to succeed the present bank. The deposits of The rirst Natiosal Beak of Appleton have decreased approximately 1100000 in the pest sad five years, the amount Mesa by the last report being $271,000, be lly eventua would it as the bank is on a dividend paying basis required to have a capital and surplus of $70,000 which would be out of proportion to the probable total deposits. C. F. NILSON, /watt. Chief National Bank Exaainer. APPROVED: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis E. H. GOPGH, Deputy Comptroller. copy t\s https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Nay 20, 3.956. NIIMERITXTV MR THE ORGANIZATION minions Re: Liquidation of "The Northwestern National Bank of Dawson", Dawson, Minnesota. (Member Northwest BP.ncorporation 7roup) Inasmuch As it is propoeed to organire a new State bank to succeed the subject bank and the last rerort of examination as of Januarr 14v 1956, short it to be solvent, it is recommended that The Northwestern National Bank of Dawson be permitted to go into liculdation. It is apparent that a number of the smaller nationel baulks control of which is owned by the Northrest Bancorporation stock the contemplate the organi/cation of State banks to succeed the national banks, the reason for suCh action tn all probability bent, due to the amended ls_w requiring the surplus hind of national banks to be built up to 100% of the capital, which would result in over.capitalisation. As of January 14, 191% the subject bank had capital of $50,000 and sound canital structure of $41,000, with deposits of say $291,000 and the EXaminer states that the volume of business lea about as large as could be exrected crwidering the 81.70 of the toga and adverse crop conditions. C. F. WILSON, Aoslt. °hie National Omsk boodner. AF'PROVID: E. H. GOUGH Deputy Comptroller. copy 1630 I-1 SOURCE: k41.414 - ASSESSMENT (1933 - 1934) &tate Alember Bank Examination (General Files) Memorandum to the Board from Div. of Exam, dated July 14, 1934, re Report of the Federal Reserve Agents' Committee on Uniform Examination Charges.- R.F. Leonard Page 3 In the Boston district, rather 4ausual circumstances account for the relatively large costs collected. illae Banking Department of Ehode Island makes no charge for examinations of Etate banks, is small and not equipped to examine the larger institutions. The examiners for the Federal Reserve Bank, therefore, assume responsibility for the examinations of the large state member banks in Rhode Island and charge for the costs of the ]The Banking Department of the State of Maine makes no direct examinationS .i charge for t e examinations, and the examiners for the Federal Reserve bank assume responsibility for the credit work in the examinations made jointly with the state examiners, and Reserve bank charges for the cost of such examinations. * * * https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 16`14 v 3 SOURCE: 241.414 - ASSESSMENT (1935-1934) State member Bank Expmination (General Files) Excerpts from copy of letter to Mr. John 6. Wood, St. Louis, from Mr. Wm. W. Hoxton, Richmond, under date of June 14, 1934 I received your letter of May 21, 1954, with reference to uniform fees to be charged by Federal Reserve Banks for examinations made by them of State member banks, which has not been replied to earlier because of the press of other matters. There is a large and important question which deserves very careful serious consideration. Federal Reserve Banks are vitally interested end condition of the banks of the country, especially member banks. The the in Comptroller of the Currency is charged with the duty of properly supervising National banks, but State banks are under the supervision of forty-eight different State authorities which are without uniform laws and which are not equal in standard of supervision. In many StateE the supervision MA is very ineffective. State member banks receive less supervision from State authorities than do non-members, because Federal Reserve Banks are expected to take the lead in the supervision of State members. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis V SOURCE: 241.414 - ASSESSMENT (1929 - 1932) State gember Bank Examination (General Files) 0 FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF PHILADELPHIA THIRD DISTRICT February 1, 19P9 FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, Washington, D. C. Dear Sirs: Your letter of January 26th -.17-6223 subject "Examination of member banks" - was duly received. 1.5e note that you express confidence in the reports of the Comptroller of the Currency and feel justified in relying upon them for information as to the conditio n of national banks; also that the State reports of examinations can be relied upon in the great majority of cases to furnish the informat ion necessary to the Agents. We regret to say that, based upon our experience, we do not feel that the reports whic:: we receive from any of the supervisory authorities give us all the information which we consider we should have, regarding the condition of our melaber banks, to enable us to comply with Sections 4 and 21 of the Federal Reserve Act. This experience is supported by the information in our filesg We have worked out a very satisfactory plan of cooperat ion with the &tate banking departments, which we feel gives us the informat ion necessary to determine whether or not we can safely grant the applications of State member banks for rediscount, and also to furnish the Board with the information it might demand concerning the condition of such banks. If we follow out one suggestion of your letter, then, in case we are not satisfied with the examinations the State departments make, we would have to abandon our present practice of cooperation with them, and make complete examinations ourselves, this would add very greatly to the expense of our member banks and we would not know sufficiently more about the banks to justify that great additional expense. We know that it is not the practice of State examiners, in the course of an examination, to see whether or not the requirements of the Federal Reserve Act, the regulations of the Federal Reserve Board and conditions of membership are beinE complied with, and quite a bit of the time of our examiners is spent in checking such matters; also we have found that very few of the State examiners are able to compute accurately the reserve required of State member banks under the l'ederal Reserve Act. We feel it should be realized that the State bank examiners are not in the least interested in seeing that the terms of the Federal Reserve Act etc. complied with:3 ******* (S) E. L. .6ustin https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Yederal heserve AEent Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis rt3 GENERAL FILES- 241.414 - ASSESSMENT (1929 - 1932) State Member Bank Examination 0 FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF CLEVELAND March 28, 1929 Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Gentlemen: If I am correct, when the Department of Examination was organized some ten years ago by order of the Federal Reserve Board, it was done with the idea of cooperating with the state banking departments, whenever such cooperation was possible, to the extent of sending in one examiner, sometimes more if necessary, for the purpose of determining the thoroughness of examinations conducted by the various state departments and for the purpose of ascertaining the use members were making of their funds. This was particularly pertinent when the member bank was borrowing from us. In the early attempts to set up this contact with our state member banks, I think it was true that each of the state banking departments in our district felt that we were attempting to inject ourselves in a supervisory capacity. This feeling was overcome, however, and I elieve the relations since have been regarded as mutually beneficial. During that time a campaign for state members was made, and the question always arose as to whether or not they would be subject to examinations and whether or not additional cost would be imposed upon them. They were told in each instance, I believe, that, while as members of the System they were subject to examination, no charges would be made except in cases where a complete examination was considered necessary. In our history there appears to be no recold of this having been done. We have made special investigations of banks where the cost was assessed to the member bang Regarding the present status of our state departments of examination: I believe Ohio has improved, although it is far from satisfactory in my opinion. At least our relations with the department are satisfactory and for the most part quite easy to maintain. Pennsylvania has a splendid and thorough-working department of examination. The departments of West Virginia and Kentucky, in which states we have very few stqte member banks, are far below standard. It appears to me that it is up to each Federal Reserve bank to establish and maintain relations to the best possible advantage. In general, while our relations with all state banking departments are cordial, the degree of cooperation which we secure is not all that could be desired. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Sincerely, (S) Geo. DeCamp Federal Reserve Agent SOURCE: 241.414 - ASSESSMENT (1929-1932) State Member Bank Examination (General Files) 0 FEDERAL OF RESERVE BANK BOSTON March 15, 1929 Hon. Roy A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Governor Young: * *' ,Now the only question that would arise is in such examinati ons where we have one or two men sit in to follow the character of the examination and to secure certain information and records that are not covered by the examination of the Stat., Department. As an example, we accept in Connecticut and Massachusetts the examination of the State authorities but always have one or two men sit in with the State examiners , the number varying with the size of the bank. For instancE, if the State euthorities in the Cad Colony Trust Company of Bocton utflized the services of some fifty or ,iyt./ men from the State Department, we would hLve tvo men sit in with the examin_tion, Lall L. I said before, these two men are only procuring information and data for our own examining department, and, although most of this informetion miE,ht be procured at the State House, it is much easier and more satisfactory to obtain this at the time of the examination, while at the same time these men can acquaint themselves with the manner in which the entire examination is being conducted. In the case of a small out-of-town trust company, only one man is sent fbr that purpose from our examining department, whereas the State authorities will probably have from five to six men. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Yours ver3r truly, (S) Frederic H. Curtiss Federal Reserve Agent SOURCE: 241.414 - ASSESSMENT (1929-1932) State Member Bank Examination (General Files) 0 FEDERAL RESERVE OF BOSTON BANK February 26, 1929 Hon. Charles S. Hamlin, Chairman, District No. I, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Hamlin: I think you know, from the very first I have realized the Board's responsibillty under the Federal Reserve Act for charges for these examinationrhave charged practically always where the onus of the exhmination fell upon our expmining department. Much of the work that our examiners are called upon to do is really to see that the examinstion i& conducted in a satisfactory manner by the State examiners and procuring records of such examinations for our own credit files, and it will be rather difficult to justify a charge for work of this chsracter. Again,U1 some of the btates banks are already charged for the examination by their State examiners, and in other Etates they are not, so that it would seem to me that this might be a factor o be taken into consicteration when the question of charge is considered. .1 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis *** *** Yours very truly, (S) Frederic H. Curtiss Federal Reserve Agent. '/ SOURCE: 241.414 - ASSESSMENT (1929 - 1932) State Member Bank Examination (General Files) "FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF RICHMOND July 3, 1929. Hon. Roy A. Young, Governor, Federal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. My dear Governor Young: Under the Board's new ruling that we must regard "credit investigations" as examinations within the meaning of the law, and must charge for them, I am, as a starter this year, examining only thoce State member banks in the district which the Federal Reserve Board's examiner listed with us as requiring "special attention." I have not yet sent out any bills for these examinations, but have warned the banks that bills would be forthcoming later. Of course, if the board does not modify its old circular, I will have to charge them under the terms of that circular, but I am hoping that the modification referred to above will be made. If it is made, it will not impose any great hardship on our State member banks on account of having to pay for both our examination and the State examination, and feel sure that we will hear no compliint from the State member banks on that score. Our examination forces a higher standard upon all of the State banking departments in the district, and I would very much like to have our charge sufficiently reasonable so that we can regularly go into all of our State member banks once a year. L Iwo of our Richmond Aate member banks have requested us to give them the benefit of our examination, although neither bank is on the list requiring special attention. The:y say they would rather have our examination and pay for it than not to get it at all. Of course, these two banks, being in Richmond, would only pay for the time of the examiners employedD If these two banks were in - say Baltimore, and had to pay railroad expenses, hotel bills, etc., I doubt if they would feel so eager to have the examination. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Always with best regards, Sincerely yours, (S) Wm.t. Hoxtan Wm. W. Hoxton Federal Reserve Agent." 11132 ,• ciY ^ 9 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis MISCFLLANEOUS uerin P.E FOLDcR - Better folders for better files 306S Send your Order to the nearcnt "Y and E" Representatives or to our Home Office YAWMAk.,1 1- D7!.P.F. MFG.e). Main Fac!gri3s ad Executive Ones ROCHESTCR, N. Y. Branches and P..g,nLs in all Princpal Cacti, FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD WASHINGTON ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD X-7598 September 21, 1933. SUBJECT: Liability of banks on deferred certificates issued to depositors. Dear Sir: There is inclosed herewith for your information a copy of a letter tliE. Federal Reserve Board has addroosed to the Auditor of Public Ac- • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis cokults of the State of Illinois with regard to the liability certlin banks in that State on deferred certificates issued to depositors who waive their ri9.;ht to demnd imnediate paymont of a part of their claims ac;ainst the bank. Yours very truly, — L. P. Bethea, Assistant Secretary. Inclosure. TO ALL FEDERAL RESERVE AGENTS. X-759E1-a September 21, 1933: COPY Hon. Edward J. Barrett, Auditor of Public Accounts, State of Illinois, Springfield, Illinois. Dear lir. Barrett: aeference is made to the conferences which you and members of your sttff had with members of the Federal Reserve Board and the Board's staff on September 11, and 12, 1933, with regard to the obligation of reorganized State banks located in the State of Illinois on deferred certificates which they have issued to their depositors who have waived their right to demand immediate payment of their deposits. Reference is also msde to your letter of September 12, 1933, inclosin,,, copies of the Depositor's Agreement and the Deferred Certificate which have been IA:A;(1 in the reor;anization of the State Bank of Collinsville, Collinsville, Illinois. It is understood that the i:rovisions of this agreement and certificate are substantially similar to the provisions of agreements and certificates which have been used in the reorganization of many other State banks in Illinois, and the Federal ieserve Board has given most careful and sympathetic consideration to the problem involved in this matter. It has been observed that the Depositor's Agreement provides that, in lieu of payment in cash of 50 per cent of his deposit claim, the depositor will accept a deferred certificate issued by the bank • for a like amount, payable out of future recoveries on segregated assets and the net profits of the Bank, and before any dividend or https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Hon. Edward J. Barrett -2- X-7598-a returns of any kind or character are payable to stockholders. The Deferred Certificate which is issued by the bank states that the bank agrees to pay the amount represented by the deferred certificate to the holder thereof solely out of the future net profits of the bank and recoveries, but, in all events, before the payment of any dividends to the stockholders of the bank. It further provides that, in the event of liquidation, the termination of the bank's business, the consolidotion with or transfer of all or a major part of its assets to another bankin6 institution prior to the payment of the deferred certificate, the holder of the cerUficate shall be entitled to share in the proceeds of the liquidation, sale, merger, dor consolidation after liabilities of the bank to its depositors and other creditors shall have been paid or provided for and that, in any event, the holder of the cert*I'icate shall be entitled to priority over any of the stockholders of the bank. In these circumstances, it seems apparent that a bank issuing such a deferred certificate assumes a definite obligation to pay the amount of such certificate at some time, and that there is no way by which it can be releaoed from ouch obligation except by the consent of the certificate holder. The obligation of the bank for the payment of such deferred claim is a liability of the bank, to the same extent as the obligation of the bank to pay the claim of any depositor. The only differences between the two classes of claims are as to time of • payment and preference of payment in the event of liquidation, and it https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis X-7598-a Hon. Edward J. Barrett seems clear that these differences do not ,justify a conclusion that there is no liability on the bank for the payment of the deferred certifice.tes described above. The board has considered thf. sua:estion which has been made that the stockholders of the bank have authorized the bank to act merely as agent in dictributint; to cleferred certificate holders future recoveries and earninc,s, to whic 'che stockholders would normally be entj.tled, and that, accordinly, the liability for the payment of such deferred certificates is on ine stockholders of the bank rather than on the bank itself. hariever, it does not appear how this can be true, on the basis of the facts involved in the case presented, when the stockholders of the bank are not parties to any of the agreements but such agreements are between the bank itself and the depositors thereof. It may also be noted the (loos not Rppear to bo any way in which a stockholder can relieve a bank from its liability to pay the claims of depositors, but thLt a bank can only be relieved ef such by the ar:reement of the depositor and in accordance with the terms of any al;reement exeouted by the deuositor. As noted above, the deposiLors here involved have not relieved the bank of the obligation to pay their deposits but have merely entered into agreements uith the bank, permitting a deferment of payment of such claims. After a careful consideration of all the circumstances involved in this matter, tho Federal Recerve Board is of thc opinion • that a bank which issues deferred certificates such os the one inclosed https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Hon. Edward J. Barrett in your letter of September 12, 1933, has a libility for the payment of such certificates. Under the provisions of Sectdon 9 of the Federal Reserve Act, a Stai,e bank may not be admittod to _iembership in the Federal Reserve System unless it hv.s an unimpaired esTital. Accordinsly, in any ctle where a bank has issued doferrod certificates of tho kind described above and tho rmount of on such certificates, toL;ethor with tho othor lir.bilities of the bank to depositors and other creditors, as comrared with the amount of the assets of thc bank, is sufficient to impair the bank's capitol stock, it would not be olicible for udnis. sion to memborship in the Dederal Reserve Systen. su2;,7,ested when you conferred with members of the Board, the fact that reors:,anized Illinois StLte banks may not at this tire be eligible for admission to membership in the 2ederal Reserve System on account of an impairment of thf=dr caldtal, as a result of liability on deferred certifict,tes of the kind described above, need not necessarily result in serious consequelLces to such banks. It is possible that these banks may obtain the benefits :1' the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and, while entitled to svch lenefits, eliminate their liability on deferred certificnten und become elicible for admission to membership in the Federid Reserve Sysem. It is understood that you havo taken this matter up with the Federal Deposit Insurance Cor;Ioration. • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Hon. Edward J. Barrett X-7598-a _5- It would seem that the liability of a bank on such deferred certificates might be eliminated by having the bank transfer all charged off ussets to truste:os for tlic benefit of deferred certificate hol(lers and obtain irom each certificate holder an agreemlit releasing the bank from any liability on such certificates and aceeptini;, in lieu thereof, a certificate from the trustees entitling the certi:icate holder to a pro rata share of any recoveries from the charL4ed off Lssets transferred to the trustees. ir deemed advisable, n;reements might also be obtained fram the stockholders of the bank to the effect that, until all certificates issued by such trustees have been paid in full, the s'_.ockholders will transfer to the 1.rustees, for the benefit of tle cLrtificate holders, any dividends declared on their stock by thc bank. Tho Board questions the advisability of a bank obtaining any suc'.. agreement from its stockholders, since it is apparent that, for a considerable period of time, any dividends on the stock of the bank will not be for the benefit of stockholders and that, for such period, the bank's stock will huve little, if any, value from the standpoint of the earnings of the bank and, accordingly, will not be marketable. It appears questionable, therefore, whether on such a basis the- people of the community will retain confidence in thc bank so as to enable it to main'L.ain or increase its deposits in competition with other banking institutions. The Board feels that, in any ease of a reorgaldzation of a bank where https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -Huh. Edward J. Barrett • X-7598-a the stodkhelders have doae everything possible to discharge their obligation to the bank and to save the depositors from loss, the de- positors arc not equitably entitled to future earnings of the bank. However, there may be cirmLnstances where the stockholders havc not have already fully discharged their obligation and the depositors oblii;ation of the agreed to a plan of reorganization and accepted the tors, bank to conserve future net earnin,;s for the Lorefit of deposi ion of until their claims are satisfied, nhich justify the execut to deferred f-Igreements by stocknolders to turn over rue.y. dividends to conserve certificete holders, in lieu of thc agreement of the bank s. earnins for the benefit of such certificate holder , As you know, the State Bank of Collinsville, Collinsville System, and tho quesIllinois, is now a member of the Federal Reserve • ary of the Treasury tion involved in that case is whether the Secret as a member bank. should issue a lieense to that ban': to reopen This the Federal Reserve Board, question is no': one for tu.c. determinetion of of the bank on the probut, since it is understood that the liability ntially impair, if not entireposed deferred certificates would substa advisable to reorganize ly eliminate, its capital, it would not seem l is restored. and reopen this membor bank until its capita It is sug- 13ank of Collinsville and similar gested that, in the case of the State paragraph commencing on cases, the procedure outlined in the first to the reopening of the page five of this letter be followed prior of the bank on deferred cerbank in order to eliminate the liability not entire elimination of tificates and the consequent impairment if • its capital. Of course, as you know, this bank might voluntarily e System and reopen as withdraw from membership in the Federal Reserv the deferred cera nonmember State bank and, after its liability on tificates https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Federal has been eliminated, apply for readmission to the • Hon. Edward J. Larrett Reserve System. -7- X-7598-a. The Board feels, however, that it would be more cle- aecomplished prior sirable for such elimination of liability to be to the reopening of the bank. The Board fully appreciates the efforts you are making to efit desirer; to fect sound reorsanizations of banks in your State, and be of all possible assistance to you in this connection. Accordingly, g that proif there is any further information you desire or anythin be appreciperly can be done by the Board to be of assistance, it mill ated if you will advtse the Board. V3ry truly yours, (Sigied) E. R. Black E. R. Black, Governor. • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis CH.B. Sept. 8, 1937 I. The report on Governmental Financial Agencies prepared by the Breoktngs Institution for Senator Byrd's committee reoommends the continuance of two Federal institutions for the control of banking: the Boerd of Governors of the Federal Reserve 4stem and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporktion. It thus recommends tilt. abolition of the office of the Comptroller of the Currency, rejects the theor:, thet there should be a single Federal control agency to deal with banking and credit, and, incidental to the farmigoing, sagf, sts that the Board of Governors should relinquish certain pipers it now exercises. In brief, the re2ort recommends thpt the F.D.I.C. be granted the functions at present performed by the Boftrd of Gavernors with revrd to (a) holdine company affiliatee, (b) interlocking directorates, and (c) the examination of banks, with the reservation thet the Board of Governols tJuld have authority to examine Federel Reserve banks and to make su?plementary exeninsti-ns of member banks and banks applying for membership in the System, when necessary. Beyond such complete trenafer of authority, very close cooperation between the Board of Governora and the Y.D.I.C. would be necessitated by the following reoommended requireAleuts:. lop) Consent of the F.D.I.C. before &tete beak member can be admitted to the Federal Reserve System; (b) consent of the F.D.I.C. before any insured bank can establtsh braacLes, whether or not the bank is a member of the Federal Reserve System, and thc consent of the Board of Governors in the ease of a member bank, whether national or State, (c) consent of the Boerd of Governors before the issuance of charters to national banks, the charterint operation to be under the F.L.I.C.; (d) the enlargement of the Federal Reserve Bulletin to include stutistics issued https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -2- by the F.D.I.C.; (e) the housing of the F.D.I.C., if 2ossible, in the Federal Reserve Building; (f) the fixing of rates of interest on time and savings deposits of all insured banke by committee of five, two members beint designated by the Board of Governors, two by the F.D.I.C., and the fifth being the becretary of the Treasury or his representative; and (g) the collection of call reports by F.D.I.C. on forms approved by the Board of Governors. II. The crucial point in this program is the rejection of any plan to consolidate all Federal control acencies relating to banking and credit. The recsons for this view are contained in the following quotations: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (1) *The principal arguments for oomplete consolidation of the Comptroller's office, the Federal Deposit Ineurance Corporation, and the Federal heserve 6ystem„ however, have to do with economic advantages of it. unified banking system AM egainst the present system of dual control. Consolidation of the control agencies in Washington would be a long etep toward such unificetion of the banking system. This question involves political and ecomomic issues more than administrative efficiency and economy. It would be beyond the assigned !Unction of this report to weieh the advantages and disadvantages of such fundamental reform'. Our recommendations are made on the assump- tion that it is the established Aolicy of the United States, at least for the present, to divide the responsibility for bank supervision between the Federal Government and the Ststes, leaving to the commercial banks the choice between :Ante and national charters, and between membership and nonmemb.-rship in https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -3- the Federal Reserve System." (pp. 37-38.) (2) °There are over 7,000 insured State banks not aembere of the Federal Reserve bystam *Leh are subject to Federal examination only because they halve elected to take Avantage of the insurance of deposits which is atiministered by the Federal Deposit insurance Corporetion. It would be aut of tbe queettan to place the examination in either the Comptroller's office, the Board of Governora of the Federal Reserve System, or the Federal Reserve banks. °As to tbe member banks of tne Federal Reserve System, there nay be, difference* of opinim. But our recommendation that the examination of theae bankr be placed in the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is not besed merely on the advantages of unification, but on the fact thet examination is mare important to the Federal Leposit Insurance Corporation than it is to the Federal Reserve Spites.° (pp. 39-40.) (3) *The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve 6,7stee exercise quasi-legislative and quasi-judicial functions of a character which is a matter of long-established policy are regularly entrusted to boards representing divergent interests, rather than to single administrators. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation could be ndminietered by an executive head inetesd of a board,... (p. 380 All of the activities of the Reserve taystem so far enumerated have to do with the control of the general credit situation, making money abundant and cheap when it is deeired to encourage expaneiou of business https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -4_ activity, and raising rates mad making mammy scarce and deer when restriction is deem,A necessary. This is the main function of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. It is quasi-legislative in &erecter. . (po. 15-16.) Our recommendation is based sinoly on the desirability of freeing the Board of Governors, as far as possible, from purely adminivtrative responsibilities. . (p. 44.) One desirable effect of the recommr-ndations made above, if they are carried out, would be to reduce the volume of administrative work of the Board of Governore of the Federal Reserve System and leave it free to devote more tine tD the study of credit conditious and the foromlatims of credit policy. iver since the cref,tion of the System, Uwe has been a tendency for it to absorb administmtivf, 4obs, sue as the control of interlocking directorates kind of the establishment of branches and supervision of holdingikompany affiliates, ... A large beard im not an ideal body to carry on administrative taeke. Moreover, the policy-Asking functions of the Board have grim in importtnce with the inereaeing public reliance on credit control as a panacea for business ills. We believe that there vill be a cAssiderable gein in the effectiveness of the Board's more important work if it is relieved of much of ite adninistrative responsibility." (p. 4C.) (4) The authors of the report feel that the F.D.I.C. ". .. iv the Agency ehich is responsible for the maintenance of bank solvency.' Again, the report speaks of ". .. bank solvency, • which is the center of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's function." (ps III. rhese excerpts fairly indicate the reeeons advanced to ex)lain why the Federal Reeerve bystem is not abolished or placed under an edministrative agency such as F.D.I.C. They also exolain iski the Boerd of Governors, according to the theory of the report, should be stripped of some of its present duties and why the functions of the F.D.I.C. are not placed under the Board of Governors or a new single agency to handle the duties of the Board of Governors, the Comptroller, and the F.D.I.C. In short, the Federal Reserve *yetis it preeerved because its board—type a organisation is regarded as proper for the exercise of its semi— legislative relation to the quamtitative aspects of monettry management and the performance of its responsibilities in this connection can be best accoaplished, the thought is, by removing from the Board as gamy administrative or other routine dutirs as possible. The F.D.I.C.„ on the other hand, is almost wholly an administretive agency concerned with bank solvency amd is, because of ouch reesons, rer.Lerded ne the proper place for nearly all administretive detail. Unificution of Federal comtrol agenciet is precluded bectuee the United States ie oresumably committed at preeent to division of responsibility between the Statee and the federal Government. (1) The explanation of why a unified regency for the Federal oomtrol of benking is not now recommended is either badly expressed or seriously confused. There is an implication that a fundamental bankimg reform needed in the United States is a umifioatiom of the banking system; and it it correctly suggested that a unification of the systea involves https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis . OP "fro. 1".• t *, SA.* -6- & 41, AAA, -Al- 6 "4"41.4. ;141z 4 , C4* feet . 4t dol , 0.14, le AN, political questions, which cagy well have been outside the terms of reference of the Brookings Reeort. Thus it say have been also tree that the authora of the report felt thcm.selvez compelled to assume thy continuance of o. bankini recponsibilit-,,, divided between the Federal Government anc the Ltatc owernm nts taw to prewuppoze the continued existence of whet ir called "dual control," However, there seems t be a noneequitur in the report's apparent opinion that divided responsibility between the Federal and State governments of itself necessitates a division of the agencies by Which the Federal Goyerrysent ahall exercise Ile relationship to the banking eystem. The proper question with respect to executive re- organization is, "Should the functions of the Federal Government with reepect to banking and credit be exercisod by one or more egencies?" And if, am the Brookings Report seems to think, it is neeessary to assume the contieuence of both :,:tate and Federel c)ntrAs in banking then the ;second euestion is a restatement of the first: "Granted a division of authority between the State anr:. Federal Governments, is there anything In that circumstance to prevent a proper expression of 1-t yea-`1 4 i tyre the ,Federal powers through c single agency?" The Brookings Report hake the first question but never addressee itself to the second. Ineteod, in the only place it defile witn the proble:4 explicitly, it seems to same that divided Federal supervision of banking and credit is required by the fact that State banking systems 7.2ay continuo. Snob a comelmsias is entirely too important to be accepted merely by the proeess of assumption; and, if the other chief points made by the reiaort &re intended to support the conclusion by implied adplicstion, then the case for & divided Federal :supervision must be judged on **eh of theam arguments https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis * tr• st4 g CA ,at r. t ( t— ee, fti ,e* specifically. (0 4,-, • It is true, of course, that aeny insured ate brinks are not members of the Federal Reserve 4stem. It ie also true that these banks are subject to Federal examintAion only because of deposit insurance. Having made these observatione, the Brookinke Report goes on :simply to take for granted thet nit woulc be out of the ikuestiop to place the examinetion in either the Comptroller's office, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, or the Federal Reserve Banks.* The report emphasises its point by egying that there may be differences of opinion' 'concerning member benke of the bystemi but, though acknowledging the possibility of differencee of opinion in the case of metber banke (which differencee of opinion are apparemtly not thought of as even :)oseible in connection with nonmember banks) goes on to recommend that the Reserve Systes rely on the F.D.I.C. for the exemination of member brake. Just why it would be "out of the question* to place the exaeimetion of State insured banks within the Federal Reserve Lystem needs clenr amd direct exposition. Doubtless the insurance of deposits, in view of the present organization of American banking, implies the necessity of bank examinetions. But the mere allegation that the Federal Reserve 6yetem, if it tock over the function of depovit insurance, would then be compelled to deal with nonmember banks is not of itself convincing on tnis point. After all, if a Federal agency ie to inoure the deposits of State bknics, .c22._ste Federal agency muet invade the privacy of insured 6tate banks through the examination procese; and, unlese there is something very mystical about thie https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Miphasis eine, through:mt. problem, there must be an explanation of why it would be proper for one Federal agency to examine insured State banks in connection with the function of deposit insurance and improper for another Federal ;.gency, such as the Board of Governors, to eyamine insured State banks in connectima with exactly the sank function. Perhape it would be imprope r, and „ kr perhaps politically impossible, but the point needs demonstration. It may be recalled in paseing that the 4stem already duels with N very large i'e number of nommember State banks that have mum within the par clearance) p44""‘”: arrangements of the byaten. ( (!) The thought that the Board of Governors should be lsreely relieved of administrative detail is plausible. In connection with deposit insurance, however, the Brookings Report haa supdlied in a meksure the answer to its own contention. It has insisted that. the operation of Federal deposit insurance iv largely and administrattve task. Mat point is questionable and may turn out to have minimized too greatly the problems and difficulties that will in the long run attach to deposit insurance. Nonetheless, if deposit insurance is, as the Brookings heport suggeste, largely a matter of routine administration, in which there are few policy-making decisions, then it could. be handlsdi ander the Board of Governors by an administrative officia l without serious inflationist upon the time of the Board. The adninistrs.tive work of the Board of Governors is by no memo a negligible problem. It does not appear, however, to be an insuperable obstacle to A.sn of reform that might otherwise be u sound syatem of Federal banking and credit control. Even if thf., administrative work of the Beard of Governors more slibstantially expanded, it does not sees at all pessiblE to reersemise the administrative aspects of the Board's work along lines that would eentime the Deerd, settng as https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis body, to the sort of quasi-legislative -9- deternination of general dolicy thet the Brookines Report indicates as a proper Board function. To be sure, the habitri of the Board might need alteration in order to hhndle e considerably expanded administretive load, and probably legislation oermitting the Board to delegate functions might be required; but an enlargement of the Board's duties would of its& probably compel an expedited manner of dealing with detail. It may bc acknowledged, moreover, that the general ider of those who desire to reduce ,ts far as possible the work of the Board is genuinely attractive. Behind nearly all such plans appears the belie. that the Board's naln function, sanely, monetary management, will thus receive an improved and sore constent attention. The opinion secas to be that the Bonrd should sit in its suite in -41 uninterrupted condition of reflection regarding the st.te of buoiness and credit. Unfortunatelyy while the quality of thinking may have sone relition to the time s2ent upon it, the identity between the oualitative aspects of thought and the tine factor is by no means complete. In the lonr. run, the quality of the Board's reflection is probably dependent more upon its experience Lad upon the accuracy enc. coapletenoes of the fLcts passed up to it by the staff than by time available for churning over end over agein a body of incomplete and inaccurate information. It is Arobable that the future of the Boerd's functioning as an organisation for nonetary nanaeement eepenos more nearly upon the ability of the staff to extend the frontiers and precision of the information upon which the Board must ect https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -10- than upon atimpla extension of the time available for unadulterated logic. This is not to minimise, of course, the difficulty of the problems the Board must decide, nor to allege that tine for full consideration is not requisite; but it is to say that a simple extension 0. it. of the time available for discussion and debate will not of itself insure iv"Ille Board.* succese. In any event, it met be noticed that the recommendations of the Brookings Report would call on several scores for the very closest and most harmonious of relationships between the F.D.I.C. and the Board of Governors. low, it can be hoped that Each wutaelly helpful cooperstion would continuously exist. Considerable disagreement, however, is by no means unknown between financicl agencies, sod fer reasons that will be indicated below, the F.L.I.C. awl the Beard of Governors will each be in a position to handicap the other, so that it may be Questioned why tbe establishment of two organizations dealing with Federal bankinf, fUnctions should be advocated when these ,,,rganizatione will necessarily be in the process of more or lege continuous negotiation. Such procedure will be time coneuming, occasionally groductive of disagreement, and, on the basis at least of general cansideratione, it would appear more desirable to place all Federal functionS relatini, to banking under the same argmaimatiemel control, so that various problems impimging repos each other are autonptically a part of the conociousnese and intelligence of the same controlling body. It may be esked whether the problem of administrative legislation, properly 1 organized, would represent a greater load on the Board of Governore, if deposit insurance were placed under the Board, than would the necessity of 'continuous dealing with P.D.I.C. in autual problems, which is necessitated by the Brookings proposals. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -11- (4) Sith regard to examinatioms, the report saye Um?ly thEA F.D.I.C. is sore conzeraed with beak exemin-tioa the-, 'ziae Fc eral Rec.erve Ihet c4nclusian seLaz to rest ups-n the thought that there is a cieer diatinctioa between the functions of the Board of Governors and tho question of bank solvency, which is presumed to he the problea /1.4 of These points kat attractive; but countervailing considerations 4°' ars available. 4,1 4tA . In the first place, the Federel Reserve banks have need of '44:44,4,,41„) exaskimations. Xit That fact is Lcknowledged in the re'rort. The Reserve banks most deal with seaber baaks as borrowere; ane, ia the extension of credit, the Whole polic ant history of a borrosing bz_nk may sell be in r.liestion. it ie hardly satiefector3 simply to va4 thet the ezamination reports eeseaolec under the cirect control of the F.D.I.C. rould be availeble to the Board of Governors and to the Reserve banks. Lnformation of importance that could be conveyed in informel conferenct:. e between Re'..3erve bunk officiels and exeminers uey not apveer in rxeminetion reports. Each in- formal &venues of information and =ULU sui4estion can hsrdly opercte sell sham the exeminere u.re not ree)oneible to the Federal Reserve Eyrtem. A:4 & The mere fact thet the rederal Reserve Zystem, moreover, aust new rely in large measure upon the e-1,:,mination reports of the Comptroller of the Cirremay, and thus would be no worse off if forced to rely on the F.D.I.C., is set wholly to the point. That &ay be tn.:co aat! . it ,74y that emeninations have uot in tte paet boos pr.parli used true an eclunct to mesetary policl. But tine examinetion fmnetion ems owl should be ea used la the friars, and the eepization of exeuinationA from the centrrA. banking euthority is, et the time at least, an impediment to effective https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -ip- monetary easegesent is a unit banking symtea. Of mere general significance. however, is the ouestion of credit control. It is on this point that the Brookinga Report is weakest, for the basic idea, apparently, iz that a definite distinction exists 1,etween the fUnction of the Board of Governors in !,uantitatively "caking money ,Ibundant and Cheapr or in "making sow scf.xce and dote, and the function of the F.D.I.C. in examining the qualitative character of bank assets to determine tne solvency of banks. Astmaily, the two problems tend to become very complete]; merged at various stages in the business cycle and for marginal aseete of banks at elmoet spy stage of the bnaiaess cycle. The character of banking essets is by ao mesas subject to ciutomatic determination by rule-of-thumb methods. A judgment of bank assets uutt necessarily tele into .r,ccount ouch factors as Use quantity of meant of payeent that ere to be edded to or subtracted fres the economy by the policies of central basking and fisca agencies, snd upon the coarse of the price level, of business, and of economic conditione in particuler communities and regions. abet is true for a substential body of bank assets at the extreme peaks and extreme vtlleys of a business cycle, when decisive chenFee in economic direction occur, is elso true for the judgment of borderline apsets et almost any time in the business cycle. The quality of bank asmets, in other wordy, depends in considerable measure upon the course of business, of the price level, and other factors that are presumably to be inflneneed by the euantitative areeit decisions of the Board of Governors. The point le, the F.D.I.C. stagy eannot examine beaks generelly with a view to determining their esuadmems iltboat aa https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -13- intivit,1 knowledge of the actions and p-Aicies of the centml bPnking authority. eormethin like nn eknolldment of th,:: fregoing fact is msde when the Brookinr,s Re?ort remarks that, 'Wader the present system it is im7)ssible for the Federal De?osit Inntrance Corporation to bE certain, in the case of banks Which are close to the margin of solvency, *hen it should toke action to protect the interests of its depositors snd its own interest ns the insurer of thr de7osits of less than 15,0)0.' In tht. case of such a bank, many factors might end probably would be involved: The generF,1 epplivltion of expeinsionirt or restrictionist naasures by the, central benkinc authority, the businers cycle, the extent to which the Ferderd Reserve .tank yould be yillint to lend to the. benk 1* difficultht, the economic position ane tendencis of the communit7 involved, including the bslfmce of payments, the credit policies of surrounding banks, and n1 on. Meny of thes points on rbich P sound judgment concern- ing the closing of a benk must rest are normaly ptrt end parcel of the informstinn and consciousnerr of a centre,' benking system. To make generally sptisfactory ludgments the F.D.I.C. wou/d need to heve the most intimete cne continuous knowledge of the Reserve Oyster's operations nne rrn.77-mr tnd either to avail itself of the fPcilities for ecrynomic investigetion now possevsed. by the System cnd in process of development or In w,rt to estatlieh eullicate fecilities for its own use. On. the other hAnd, the ezsminint ?rocess, ostensibly derignee determine the quality snel squndnese of bank assets, osn and normally would have an exceedingly importtint impect on the quantitetive policier https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis th,t F(!dervl Rezerve Lyotom been -tit by ProfeNvor Vine/. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis aappoaed to iurs‘ue. Thia t)oint has followv: "It IF cvidcat, thercfores th4A pulvision. and examination ere neither necessary nor *,fficient condition4, tlk.t the benkilLz system will be strong enough to withstand a severe r7spreesion without Wholle collai)se, although it may be presumed that the record of the American brking 4444;:a would have. brec,f1 wa.ae if it had been Wholly free from supervision and regulgtion. But unless it ie directed with thL; daa‘cr in mind, the nature of the examining process is itself ouch tie to impose upon the activitif_s of tlIcf b6lika a perverse myolleal pattern from the point of view of rtJ.ilisation. ?he erilners, through quLlit4itivc credit stamdards which they impose au banks, indirectly influence the c:w,ntity of bank credit. 7114,4 businc,,bic is prosperous and optimism prevails, examiners, like the bunkers thenelli, must tcad to apprtise craCit risks in terms of the favorable conditions of the rolent. The bankcm, the EL111 1.24.akerc, confident that what is good enough to pass the serutiny e)f the 7.f.imineriE, Dhculd be g L)od anougn to meet their own standards, persist on their career of credit expanoion. Leter, titan tbe tide of busine4o turns, When banks begin to fail and loans which were passed without criticivu curng the boou day2. v;riterl JL: off as bad debts, the examiners are blamed. Reacting in r2 perfectly nntu7e1 =Inner, tEt5:. becomk ;stricter and more exacting in the standards they apply., and thqfpreer the bt,nks liciuidLte loana end iuviAvtment *Joh the banks, if left to their own devices, would be hal-Ty kee; in their portfolios. Tht proceac of bank examination thus tends to encourage credit expansion during the up..zring of the buzinue;; und, Aore seriously, to intensify credit contraction during the downmIng. "Thixe un obvious cure for tLit. pc.rvorse effect of bank examiention, romiring three innovetime in the ie.dmlniStrictioa ‘A" eNiainetiono; unified control of bank supervision and examination; co-f.,rdl.nf,tior- 01 inanimation ,Jolic) with e.reUt control policy; and systematic and continuous supervision ;:nd instruction of tLe Eauminers in terms of a uniform and flexible policy. Pally to attain ell of theEe objectives would require the centralisation of all bank axasining functions under the direction cq' the Federal Rererve Board." -15- In other 7:ords, th lik04 work of a central baaldng autharit,: /6 to be seriously ispeded and dirturbed if it d.:.;e!; not control the exAminstion Aich , nJad disturbfict: wall have i;reeter significnnce in the future than in tile 1,:at, rince it is only in recent yenrs in the United f3tates VIA the roU of centre' banking in economic stabilit: hos been generally omi*asized, aore or less recocnized by itit and by the Governors of tne System, and popular expectation reordini its effectiveness arouced. tions cp•..rating in a wei that permits the one And with two organiza- interfere witn the <Wier, the possibility of rucrImination and conflict tg,cosos, in the. long runi falsest u certainty. :,:eraJver, There is ail inevitabi cwifusien of respensibtlity. divielon of r#:,-sponibilit4 and poter, unavoidably the public mine, tir e,oecifically t1L': effect im su)ervifory 6imcios thuireive. It enconrae ttut developmkat called-for setia tends tl are all humbn, thire to lon rgoken or Aent4:. attitude by which .4,eferrc,d, !,ad atellvard, wa unsy;;L:n ten,lency, 11.at-aver the: ficts, the cith4-r to ftscribe the onus of failure ,.7! cf an uupul:lr tigeniCy• Aside froo fDregoi% gcnert41 cJnaidkratica:, it shouL.. observed thnt the examination functim, if vested in th2 Board of GovcJrnors *mild be a valuable inatrumust for dealing with ?robleas thc,.t e;.'.1113,CA no;: be satisfactorily :.naud. For tastAlce, th.:$ Board af Covernors and tIla Reserve banks are not A 2rosont the nevi& boos, the Ohief effects t.,J control sila 4 tiaen444.4.1 a *hicn viere in evidence in only small seograpitteal area. Bono of tlae provcnt tootraacntaliti4J.s of tiA41 Board or of the Banks ean br ueed to ap?ly presaure in such e. situation https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis !: without at the same tine applying pressure elsewhere. in the economy when sucn general pressure may neither be necessery nor desirn ble. It cannot be pretended, of: course, that even the process of bank examinations mould *holly control such e situation es,existed in Florida; but the examin ation process could have been ueed, both directly and by indirect influence, to hove forced Florida banks rigidly to clean up their portfo lios as the boom progressed, and the whole banking situation in the State could hove been kept an a mob more conservative basis. Much the same sort of thing cen be said regarding booms that art not geographically confined but thet tend to direct themselves toward sone particular Obese of the economic syetem. In this connection, there will be remembered tie enxiety regardine security loans in the late twenties. Leaving aside ell eueetIone concernine whether security' loana were or were not mede In greater volume then a sound development of the banking system and the economy would have called for, it may eimely be. observed thee a control of bank examinetions would have allowe d the Federal Reserve Board to deal with the problem by the procese of direct action. githout the examining authority (or sone authority similar in effect), the Board was practically powerless insleas it used control nnesnres that would have an impact far beyond the objective eimed et. It is not necessary, of worse, that tho Dowd of Governors hem control of the eeemination function in order for that faucti on to be exercised in conjunction with monetary Jolley. All that ie necessery is theat it atiould be exercised with an intimate knowledge of moneta ry deeeeeee ) policy and with full cooperation. buch a davelopnent may devr.fti p under https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis -17- the arrangement suggested by the Brookings Report. It may even follow sore or less automntically from thf, responsibilities of F.D.I.C.; but that is to be doubted. What is more likely is that, during the upswing of the cycle, the F.D.I.C. will apply someshat more stringent stendards than the Comptroller's office hk.s been wont to do, and, in a downswing, having its insurance et stake, as the Comptroller's office hae never hed, will apply sUndards still more severe. To expect it to do otherwise is to exect that the F.D.I.C. will, When a downturn had gotten under imy, shift its examining standards. (5) The Brookings fieort contempletes that the liquidation of insured failed banky would be in the hkinds of the Eleelhere in the report the fact has been emphasized that the Federal Reserve System is equipped with all of the. facilities, personnel, and experience requisite for the conduct of banking. operbtions (p. 20, and it is recommended that the Reserve banks act for the Government as liquidating agents in oonneetton with Reconstruction kinance Corporation louse. At least from the operatine standpoint, it is difficult to understood Iihy the Federal Reserve banks ere not the proper agencies for liouidating the affairs of closed banks. They possess, as the Brookings Report has indicated, practically all of the facilities for doing this work satisfactorily ane mast either undertake the task in behalf of the F.D.I.C. or else the latter must duplicate the facilities of the Reserve banks. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis REPORT S.M. PROCEEDINGS ON MOM. CONFERENCE PRELIMINARY 0 N STANDARDIZATION OF CALL REPORTS AND EARNINGS https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis iLND DIVIDENDS REPORTS May 22, and 23, 1935 National Press Building Washington, D. C. 1501 Attendance at the preliminary conference on the standardization of Call Reports and Earnings and Dividends Reports. AMERICAN BANKERS' ASSOCIATION Mr. Herman H. Griswold, Pres., First Nat'l Bank & Trust Co., Elmira, N.Y. Mr. R. G. Marx, Comptroller, Riggs National Bank, Washington Mr. George 0. Vass, Vice Pres. & Cashier, Riggs Nat'l Bank, Washington Mr. Howard Wolfe, Cashier, Philadelphia Nat'l Bank, Philadelphia, Pa. COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY Mr. William P. Folger, Chief National Bank Examiner, Washington Mr. E. H. Gauch, Deputy Comptroller of the Currency, Washington Mr. W. A. Kane, Chief Statistician, Washington FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION Mr. J. Forbes Campbell, Division of Research & Statistics, Washington Mr. Mortimer J. Fox, Jr., Chief, Div. of Research & Statistics, Washington Mr. W. M. Taylor, Division of Examinations, Washington Mr. Donald S. Thompson, Division of Research & Statistics, Washington Mr. M. G. Tucker, Division of Research & Statistics, Washington FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Mr. J. E. Horbett, Asst. Chief, Division of Bank Operations, Washington Mr. R. F. Leonard, Asst, Chief, Division of Examinations, Washington Mr. Leo H. Paulgur, Chief, Division of Examinations, Washington Mr. Edward L. Smead, Chief, Division of Bank Operations, Washington Mr. Woodlief Thomas, Asst. Director, Div. of Research ana Statistics, Washington NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BANK AUDITORS AND COMPTROLLERS Mr. E. H. Brandon, Asst. Secretary, Irving Trust Co., New York, N. Y. Mr. George D. Grimm, Auditor, National Shawmut Bank of Boston, Mass. Mr. Arthur J. Linn, Secty-Treas., The National Association of Bank Auditors and Comptrollers, Hamilton Nat'l Bank, Washington RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPORATION Mr. Thomas H. Davis, Examining Division, Washington w RESERVE CITY BANKERS ASSOCIATION Mr. Leslie B. EcMahon, Asst. Vice Pres., City Nat'l Bk & Trust Co., Chicag) Mr. J. W. Massie, Auditor, Republic National Bank of Dallas, Dallas, Texas Mr. K. M. Morrison, Comptroller, First Nat'l Bk & Trust O., Minneapolis Mr. J. A. Will, Comptroller, Chase National Bank of New York, New York STATE BANK CObLISSIONERS Mr. M. E. Bristow, Commissioner of Insurance and Banking, Richmond, Va. Mr. John D. Hospelhorn, Deputy Bank Commissioner, Baltimore, Md. Mr. Logan R. Ritchie, Examiner-in-Chief, Bureau of Insurance and Banking, Richmond, Va. Mr. H. B. Wells, Secty, Deptt for Financial Institutions, Indianapoli3, TREASURY Mr. George Eddy, Division of Research & Statistics, Washington https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 REPORT ON PROCEEDINGS - PRELIMINARY CONFERENCE ON STANDARDIZATION CF CALL REPORTS AND ERNINGS AND DIVIDEITDS REPORTS General session was called to ordor by Mr. Fox at 10:00 A.M. on Wodnosday, May 22nd, 1935 in tho Board Room of tho Fodoral Deposit Insurance Corporation, Washington, D. C. A welcoming address was made by Senator Phillips Lce Diroctor of the Fodoral Deposit Insuranco Corporation. ugh, Goldsboro Sonator Goldsborough called for the nomination of a chairman. It was moved, soconded and carriod that Nr. H. B. Wolls, Socrotary, Commission for Financial Institutions, State of Indiana, preside. Mr. Wells appoinbed Mr. Loslie Mcrahon secretary, and Nessrs. M. G. Tucker and R. F. Leonard, assistant socrotarios. Mr. Wells accopted tho chairmanship. Mr. Violls: I think it is vory timely that tho Foderal Deposit Insuranco Corporation has arranged this conference. Tho call report is the oldost supervisory implement that wo havo in point of historical dovelopmont. it was in goneral uso about the middlo of the last contury in tho state systoms and from thc boginning in the national system. Tho history of suporvisory machinory has boon that, if a situation aroso ncoding a now implomont, we promptly institutod that new implement and loft all tho old ones. As a result, wo have at tho prosont timo a great hodge-podgo of machinory which may or may not be offoctivo. I think it is safo to assumo that with tho improvomonts in &moral conditions, tho bankint; fratornity will soon bocoro vory active in protesting against this complicatod systom. Tho mon who reprosont tho banks can toll us about that bettor than I can. I think that such a protost will como. A group reprosonting tho banks and a group roprosonting tho suporvisory officials can well afford to spend somo timo discussing thoso problems. I think wo aro all azrood that we want as simplifiod a systom of supervision as possiblo wlthout sacrficing any officioncy or any protoctivo moasuros for tho gonoral welfaro. It was suggostod that some roactions from tho roprosontativos of tho suporvisory agencios bo roquostcd. Mr. Folgor: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Roports of Condition havo boon required of national banks sinco tho Act of Fobruary 25, 1863 which 2 was repealed and reenacted with certain amendments June 3, 1854. It was subsequently amended so far as condition reports were oenCernod under the Acts of March 3, 1869, December 28, 1922, February 25, 1927 and June 16, 1933, as follows: Act of February 25, 1863 - ProVided for of reports condition on the first of each quarter before commnncement of business. • -let of June 3, 1864 - Provided for reports on the first Monday of January, April, July and October, boforo commencoment of business, on form prescribed by Comptroller (in addition to reports on first Tuesday of each month showing condition at commoncoment of businoss rospect to certain itoms; i.o., loans, specie, doposits, and circulation). Act of March 3, 1869 - Provided for not less than five reports per year on form prescribed by Comptroller at close of business on any past date by him specified. Act of December 23, 1922 - Minimum nunber of calls reduced from five to three per year. Act of February 25, 1927 - ,luthorized vice president or assistant cashier dosignated by board of directors to vorify reports of condition in absence of president and cashier. llot of June 16, 1933 - Provided that each nationalbank shall furnish and publish not less than threo reports oaeh yoar of affiliatos other than member banks, as cf dates identical with those for which the Comptroller roquires roports of condition. • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Tho act roquirin7, call reports is Section 5211 of the Revised Statutes which provides in part as follows: Etvery ascoc4 ation shall make to tho Comptrollor of tho Currency not loss than threo reports during each year according to tho form which may bo proscribed by him, vorifiod by tho oath or affirmation of the prosidont or of the cashier or of a vico prosident or an assistant cashior dosignated by tho board of diroctors to vorify in tho absoneo of tho prosident and cashior, takon bofore a notary public properly authorizod and commissioned by the Stato in which such notary rosidos and tho association is located or any 3 other officer having official seal, etc. Each such report shall exhibit in dotail and under appropriate heads the rosourcos and liabilities of the association at the close of business on any past day specified by the Comptroller and shall be transmitted to the Comptroller's office within five days after the receipt of a request therefor from him; and the statement of resources and liabilities, together with the acknowledgment and attestation, in the same form in which it is made to the Comptroller, shall be published in the place where such association is established, or if there is no newspaper in tho place, then Ln the one published nearest thereto in the same county, at the expenzo of the association; and such proof of publication shall be furnished as may he roquired by the Comptroller. Section 5211 provides further that the Comptroller shall have power to call for special reports from any particular association whenever La his judgment the same are necessary to obtain a full and complete knowledge of its condition. Section 713 of the District of Columbia Code Provides that Section 5211 of the Revised Statutes shall apply also to banks other than national in the District of Columbia. 4 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The last sentence of Section 5211 above referred to, namely, that the Comptroller shall also have power to call for special reports fram any particular association whenever in his judgment the same are necessary in order to obtain a full and complete knowledge of its condition, is apparently the only authority for requiring semi-annual earnings and dividends reports. However, Section 5212 which was adopted March 3, 1869, requires national banks to report in addition to the condition statements, and within ten days after declarinP; any dividend, the amount of such dividend and the amount of net earnings in excess of such dividend. The report is to be attested by the oath or affirmation of the president or cashier of the association. Section 5213 - Provides that every association which fails to make and transmit the reports required under sections 5211 and 5212 shall be subject to a penalty of $100.00 a day for each day after the period that it delays to make and transmit the report. Whenever any association delays or refuses to pay tho penalty after it has been assessed by the Comptroller, the amount thereof may be retained by the Treasurer of the United States, upon the order of the Comptroller, aut of tho interest, as it may become due to the association, on the _ A 4 bonds deposited wdth him to secure circulation. All sums of money collected for penalties under this section shall be paid into the Treasury of the United States. The law requiring dividend reports went into effect in March, 1869, and since that date abstracts for semi-annual periods have been compiled and published. It is understood that in addition to the special ten day report of a dividend on Form 2129-A (now 2133 and 2133-A), regular semi-annual reports have be,tn submitted since 1869 on Form 2129. Prior to July 1, 1907, banks, regardless of uniformity of dates, selected periods for closing their books and making reports of earnings and dividends on Form 2129 at irregular dates. With a view of having returns made at uniform periods, beginning July 1, 1907, and continuing until this time the reports have been rendered for tho semi-annual periods ended June 30 and December 31. The law provides that whenever the lawful reserve of any association required to be carried with the Federal Reserve Bank shall fall below the requirements, tho bank concerned shall not make any loans nor pay any dividends unless and until the reserve required by statute is fully restored. Section 5199 - Provides that the directors of an association may semi-annually declare a dividend of so much of the net profits of the association as they shall judge expedient, but each such association shall before the declaration of a dividend carry one-tenth part of its not profits of the preceding half year to its surplus fund until the samc shall amount to twenty per cent of its capital stock. • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Section 5204 - Provides that no national bank shall during the tino it shall continue its banking operations, withdraw or permit to be wdthdrawn either in the form of dividends or otherwise any portion of its capital. This section provides further that if losses havp at any time been sustained by an association, equal to or exceeding its undivided profits then on hand, no dividend shall be made. In addition no dividend shall ever be made by any association, to an amount greater than its net profits then on hand, deducting therefrom its losses and bad debts. Bad debts are defined as all debts due to an association on which interest is past due and unpaid for a period of six months, unless the same are well secured and in process of collection. Section 333 of the Revised Statutes - Requires the Comptroller to make an annual report to Congress at https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 5 tho commencement of its session, exhibiting among other things the following: A summary of the condition of every association from whi.ch reports have boen received the proceding year. There is included an abstract containing the whole amount of banking capital, debts and liabilities, circulating notes outstanding, total means and resourcos, lawful reserve held and such other information in relation to such associations as in his judgment may be useful. A statomont exhibitinp: undor appropriate heads the resources and liabilities and condition of banks othor than national organized under tho laws of the sevoral States and Torritorics; such information to be obtained by thc Comptrollcr from the roports made by such banks to tho legislaturos or officors of the difforont Statos and Territories. When such roports cannot bo obtained, the deficiency to be supplied from such other authontic sources as may be availablo. As provided for in Section 5211 of tho Rovisod Statutos, the Comptrollor has made 343 calls for reports, in no caso loss than throe oach year. These statomonts aro considorod primarily for statistical purposes and furnish tronds of tho national banks at tho difforcnt soasons of tho yoar. Summarios of thc call aro tabulatod and publishod in abstract form forty to fifty days following tho call data. A pross roloaso is issued based thoroon including a comparison with tho provious call and figures for tho corrosponding call in tho prior yoar. The individual roports of banks aro published in tho nowspapor whoro ouch bank is located. The totals for each call in abstract form aro mado public to banks, othor financial institutions, public and univorsity librarios. Tho roturns of oach call aro also includod in tho annual report of tho Comptrollor to Congross as required by Section 333 of tho Rovisod Statutos. 7°/'° acrecord office an as serve reports These n contained informatio supplement and cessible to exariners in the reports of oxaminations of banks which are made twice a year. The report of examination, however, and not - ,urposos. The exthe call roport, sorvos for supervisory ; amination report includos not only most of tho itoms requested in tho condition statement, but several other items and commonts by the examiner, as woll as an appraisal of tho bank's assets. Publication of the condition report of each national bank in a nowspaper is also roquirod by law and is the LLeans by which tho layman or other croditor obtains a knowledge of tho book value of the bank's assets. \ Tho examiner at each oxamination is roquirod to vorify and to detormine the accuracy of the last condition roport rondorod to tho Cogiptrollor. Tho banks aro informod of important criticisms and aro roquestod to ronder a now report or aro instructod to proporly classify the itoms in subsoquont roports. It would bo advisablo if somo arrangemont could bo mado whoroby all states could uso report forms in agrooment with thoso of tho Fodoral agencios. This would enable tho Comptrollor to include in his annual report to Congress satisfactory information with respect to banks organized under tho laws of tho sovoral statos and torritorios. The earnings and dividends statements (Form 2129) which are rendered semi-annually are primarily for statistical purposes. However, the reports of examination of banks now include data taken from the bank's file copies of the semi-annual earnings reports for the previous five years. Theso roports are useful to examiners in the Comptroller's office to determine whether adjustments have been made such as charging off losses recommendod by the examiner. The earnings roport furnishes a basis for publication of statistics concorning banks by groups in rosorve cities and statos, and frequently aro callud for by other Govornmontal agencies in connection with their activities. Mr. Wells called upon Mr. Smead, Chiof of tho Division of Bank Oporations, Fedoral Rosorve Board. Mr. Smoad: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Calls for information from banking institutions have incroasod in recont years. The numbor of govornmental offices intorosted in obtaining information from banking institutions has incroasod substantially in rocont months. At tho present tim tho Reconstruction Finance Corporation, tho Socuritios Exchange Commission, tho Troacury DoparUmont, the Comptroller of tho Currency, tho Foderal Dopocit Insurance Corporation and tho Fodoral Rosorvo Board aro all asking for information, and rocontly the Dopartmont of Agriculture and tho Fodoral Housing Administration havo roquostod us to obtain information for thorn. This has incrcased tho work of tho mombor banks considorably. Many of thom rosont quite vigorously tho extra worh that is placod upon them. Anything thot can be accomplished to brin7 about uniformity and simplification in obtaining tho necessary information will bo a stop in tho right diroction. 7 The Federal Rcserve Board is charged under tho law with the general suporvizion of banking and it has to have curront inforration to be able to function properly and to assume the dutios placed upon it by Congress. As you 17now, within two or threu years after tho Fodoral Rosorvc Act was passed the Board felt it nocossary to have a closer contct with stato member banks, and since 1917 call roports of such banks havo boon rondered to thc Board. Tho Board also soon found that call roports alone were not sufficiont for its purposes and in 1918 it callod upon membor banks in -Ill of the larger citics of the country to submit mokly roports, showdng tho amounts of their principal assets and liabilities. Changos which take placo from wool< to wook aro at timos particularly significant and it is necossary for the Board to know the amount and character of the changos. These rcports hnve been in7aluable to tho Board and it would be difficult to function without thom. Modifications have boon madc from time to timo and we now recoive vory informative reports each wook from the seloctod member banks, which reports aro to a large extont tiod in with tho call report. "Je believe the call reports could be simplified and modified somewhat to get information wdth which the Board is charged. The condition reports which have been submitted to the Board by state bank members have nevor been roquired to be published but there is a prowhich vision in the Banhing Act of 1935 (Omnibus Bill) that me would require thoir publication. It seems to isupervising authorities have a very docided respons bility with reforenco to the reports that are published. Reports of national banks have boon requirod to be published since tho inception of the national bank systom. Since publication is for tho benefit of tho customers of tho bank the statements should bo such as to give tho reador an adequate grasp of tho bank's condition. I hopo that before this session js °vox. wo shall havo considnred tho matter and made some progress toward a botter form of published report. Mr. Wells called upon Mr. Woodlief Thomas, Division of Research and Statistics, Federal Reserve Board. Yr. Thomas: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis BanI:in7 statistics are needed in analyzing ments because of the tmportance of develop cconomIc on of the economic system. It operati banking in the has become a truism that some 90 per cont of monetary transactions in this country are effected by checks on deposit accounts. Agriculture, commorce, and industry are dependent on bunks for short-berm werking capital. To an increasing oxtent have the savings of the country been intrustod to banks for investmont. Transfers 'of funds from one soction of the country to anothor pass through tho banking system. Evory day Govornment, private enterpriso, and individuals must make docisions which faivolvo a knowledge of tho condition of banks. A difforonco between tho use of bank condition roports for gonoral statistical analysis and their use for supervisory and public informing purposes is that in tho lattor case thc reports of individual banks aro ossontial, whoroas in tho fornor, mass information for a number of banks is moro useful. For this reason quostions of confidontial naturo of data bocomo loss important and reports may be obtainod more frequently than rdght be desirable in casc thoy wero all publishod. Anothor difforonco is that roports aro noodod moro fragrantly and moro regularly. This nood varios with tho naturo of businoss of the roporting banks and with tho various itoms on tho report. Sono items which change infroquontly, such as co.pital, surplus, roscrvos for contingcncios, otc., and others which are rolativoly unimportant may im Q obtained at infroquent intcrvals. Itoms which fluctuatc widely aro noodod fragrantly, o.g. bankers' balancos, brokors' loans and, at timos, borrowings at tho Rosorvc Banks. For tho samo roason moro froquont roports arc noodod from 'panics in contra]. moncy markots, whoro changos arc broad and froquont, than from country banks which on tho wholo show much moro limitod changos. A https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Any numbor of quostions in oconomic analysis roquiro information rogardin2,- the banking situation. Somo of tho moro important typos of devolopments rovoalod by banking str.tistics aro as follows: 1. Moans of paymont - Basically it may bo said that bank doposits indicato tho size of what is somotimos callod the 'money supply' or the volumo of 'moans of paymonts' of the country. Monoy in actual circulation is also includod in this supply but is loss important. Doposibs include the supply of money that may bo used to mako current purchascs and also savings that are placod in banks. It is difficult to draw a sharp lino botueon those two elemonts in deposits bccausc thoy aro intorchangoablc; thoy aro roughly shown by figuros for domand and timo doposits. The e:ctent to which changes in the amount of bunk deposits may affect business conditions ur the national income is known to vary from time to time. It is important to know something al- out the turnover of deposits, the extent to which they are used in business transactions and pass from hand to hand. But this results from different factors with varying significance. A large number of purely financial transactions or transfers of funds may increase velocity wlthout having an effect on the movement of goods or on national income. More information is needed about the amounts and turnover of deposits of different sorts of depositors -- bankers' balances, deposits of brokers and busidealers in securities, bills, and the like, other attempt is ness deposits, and personal deposits. Some figures made to Eet at such differencos by the use of cities but for different regions and for different size total voltho t presen At . actory rosults are not satisf as large about und 1932 in than ume of deposits is larger and 1932 in than r greate no as in 1925, but turnover is bution distri the e becaus much less than in 1925. Is it is of deposits among tho various types of depositors their using are tors different or becauso individual deposi funds loss froquently? 2. Use of bank funds - It is important also to know how banks employ their funds and what types of loans and investments they are making. This information either is needed not only to reveal the condition of banks tion of individually or in groups, but also as an indica out of types of demands for bank credit that have arisen banks. tho economic system and are being supplied by the A https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Most of the statistics of bank loans have loans. Probbeen classified according to collateral for was easier it e bocaus part in up ably this practice grew and, in banks from nature this of to oUtain information o of a moasur ored consid beon part because it may have ts have years attemp roc:lent In thc socurity of the loan. into idod subdiv loans of s boon made to obtain the figuro tho From ers. open-market loans and loans to custom subdivision of standpoint of economic analysis the next loans classishow would loans to bo dosirod is ono which or at any mado aro fied as to the purposo for which thoy of rate as to typos of business or oconomic function borrauors. Tho throe broad classifications of bank oarnusoful aro opon-markot loans, customors' most ing assets https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 10 loans, and investments. The first of these is indicative of two developments - (a) the extent to which banks aro keeping t1-.emselves in a liquid condition, and (b) the extent to which banks have surplus funds not need.xi to supply the demands of customers but not considered by the bunk to be available for investments. Investments may also be said to have two general uses - (a) they are sLailar to open-market loans in that banks may purchase securities, especially shortterm or readily marketable securities, to provide liquidity or to employ funds not needed to supply customers' demands and (b) they represent the use that banks make of savings that are intrusted to their care. In analyzing the business situation it is important to know what types of investments banks are buying and if possible, whether they arc bought for purposes of liquidity or to invest savinLs deposits. Customers' loans are of various sorts. Practically all that ye know about them at present is in regard to their collateral. It will be necessary under the Securities and Exchange Act for the Federal Resurve Board to know what loans are being made by banks for the purpose of purchasing and carrying securities. The Banking Act of 1963 directed each Federal Roserve bank to 'keep i'vself informed of the general character and amount of tile loans and investments of its member Lanks with a viuw to ascertaining whether unaue use is bcing mcdo of bank credit for the speculative carrying of or trading in securiti-s, real estate, or commodities, or for any other purpose inconsistGnt with the maintenance of sound credit conditions; and, in determining whether to grant or refuse advances, rediscounts or other crudit accomodations, the Federal Reserve Bank shall c;ive consideration to such information." In order tJ NrforL this task it may be necessary in the future to have nore information than is now avaliable regarding tno purposes for which bank loans aru made. Such inforwiation presented in the form of aggregates will be of use not only to the Federal anyone attempting to analyze Reserve System but also busLiess and credit developments. 3. Money rates - Most of the available information on money rates has dealt primarily with rates in the open market. This has been due to the fact that open-market loans aro relatively uniform in type and comparable rates nay be obtained frequently and regularly. 11 Tho Fodoral R000rve Board has attomptod for somo yearo to obtain figuros on rates charged customors by banks. Bocauso of tho tromendous difforoncos between customors and as to the conditions of loans it is excoodingly difficult to obtain comparable rates on thcso loans. Tho boot that con be said for tho figuros that havo boon colloctod is that thoy show in a broad way difforencos ovor periods of timo and as among various classes of citios and geographical rogions. Such figuros aro important as indicating costs of monoy to borrawors in various soctions as moll as roturns to banks. Some attempt should bo made to obtain figurcs that aro moro uscful. 4. Rogional difforoncos - In a country as largo as tho United Statos thoro aro ',road rogional difforenccs in business conditions that affoct and aro affectod by tho banking situr.tion. Becauso of our systom of unit banks, tho movomont of funds from ono region to anothor is somowhat mon; involvod than in a country with a naUon-wldo syston of branch banking. For this samo roason, houovor, it is possiblo to analyzo availablo statistics for tho purposo of dotormining rogional variations. Thoso difforonces occur not only as to goographical areas but also as to differont sizos of cities. Chanos in doposits by cities or rogions indicato rolativo dogroos of prospority and tho oxtont to which funds may bo flowdng from ono rogion to anothor. Figurcs for loans and invostmonts subdivided according to opon-markot loans and investments, an tho ono hand, and customers' loans on tho other, indicato tho oxtont to which funds aro boing usod at homo or boing scnt into tho contral monoy and invostmont markets for uso. • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Thcso aro only somo of tho genoral usos of banking statistics for oconomic analysis. Any numbor of individual casos may bo montionod and discussod at longth. In summary, it may bo said that from this standpoint tho moro important dofocts in availablo banking statistics aro as follows: 1. Roports from all banks arr not sufficiontly frequent and rogular. Frequont and regular reports aro obtainod from banks in leadin,. cities but at timos figuros for those banks may bo misloading as to trond of devolopments. Data for country banks, which arc availablo only at call datcs, aro noodod at more froquont intorvals. 12 2. Classifications of loans and doposits aro not sufficiontly dotailod to facilitato analysis. Moro informtion is noodod as to whom the money belongs to and also as to who the borrowors aro. 3. Additional information is noodod as to voluile of oporations. Figures an debits or chock pavmonts aro obtainable but have cortain dofects, (a) They aro not subdivided as to typos of doposits, (b) They do not apply to the same banks for vhich deposit figuros aro reportod and, therofore, are not diroctly comparablo, and (c) Thcy arc not availablo fDr banks in smallor places. Thor° is no information at all regarding tho volumo of loans made or crodits to dopositors accounts. During rocelit yoars banks havo boon severely criticizod for not making new loans -whon thoy wero, as a mattor of fact, making such loans. It happened that repayments exceeded new loans made and no information is available regarding the amount of new loans made and the amount of repayments. This is not a program or a promise or a threat. It is simply a statement of facts that are needed for proper economic analysis. In seeking information from banks it is of course desirable constantly to avoid placing upon them too heavy a burden of reporting, and information requested should be limited to that which can be more or less easily obtained. It should be recognized, however, that every day decisions are being made by Governnent, by business, and by banks themselves, based upon supposition as to many of these facts. Certain theories which are the basis for policies and action have never really been tested and cannot be tested except by experience or except by reference to factual information. It is always necossary to consider whether tho cost for mistakes that nay be mado 'without facts is greater than the cost of reporting accurate statistics. • Mr. Wel]s: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Thank you vory ruch, Mr. Thomas. Your remark-s contain much food for thought. They suggest that our present system of call reports is not offcctive from the standpoint of tho collection of economic data. Thor() is a groat noed for this information and much can be said about Lhis particular problom. In my opinion the call roport as a supervisory neasurc is out-nodod and out-dated. Shouldn't we consider drafting the call reports purely for the purpose of collocting statistical data and abandoning them as a supervisory implement? We have already started to do that in our state. I do not know how it will function. It is a fortunate thing that one state can experiment without involving other states in what might be an unhappy experience. we believe that it will turn out satisfactorily in Indiana but only time will tell the result. Call reports began in Tndiana in 1855. At that time direct contact with the banks was difficult. There were no other instruments of supervision and no examinations. What is the condition today? We have corps of examiners representing the Federal Reserve Board, the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and the state suporvisory agencies. Any bank in Indiana is now within five minutes of my desk by telephone. That does the average supervisory department do with thu call report? It is generally given to the statistical division and the examining division refers to the examination report. The call report reflects only book value and the supervisory departments are not interested in book value, except under special conditions. The call report is a vestigal remain of an earlier date as far as supervision is concerned. We hod legislation enacted at the last legislature in our state to make it possible to call for only two reports a. year under ordinary circumstances. In special cases it is necessary to act differently. A doctor does not always prescribe the same medicine. Some of them always give aspirin, but each disease calls for a special medicine. So it is with banks. Some banks, in my opinion, need to have a weel-ly report, some monthly and some quarterly. I am not su,;gesting that all of the banks have these frequent, special reports. Supervisors should be conservative. in the use of that type of authority. By using special report forms for banks under special conditions, good banks will not bear the penalty of reporting too frequently. Mr. Wells called upon Mr. Bristaw, Commissioner Of Insurance and Banking, Richmond, Virginia. I have no set speech but shall make a fua Mr. Bristow: general remarks. I belive that I have the honor of being the thir oldest supervisor in consecutive service. Mr. Mc2herson of Colorado and Mr. Brock of Louisiana are my only seniors. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Uniformity of the call report is desirable 14 from the standpoint of state banks. They are called upon to make one form of statement to the State Department and another to the Federal Reserve Board if they are state member banks; if a non-member bank they must prepare a separate statement for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. You can see why the banks object to this procedure. In speaking for the state banks of Virginia I want to say that we work in close cooperation with the Federal agencies. As regards our sister system, that is, the national banks, we are all soldiers for the same cause. It se-ms to me, therefore, that we should be able to use practically the same forms. In regard to the frequence in requestinP: statements, we have a law in my state that I heartily commend to the other states. This law provides that we request a report whenever the Comptroller of the Currency calls on national banks. We can make as many calls as we wish, but we have called only when the Comptroller of the Currency makes his calls. I am now speaking of the call statement. Our law in regard to call statements has probably been in forco for fifty years. We have already adopted the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation call statement form and wo are using very much the same material in our earnings and dividends statements. We should like to continue this practice. The only change that we would suggest is that the physical form be so arranged as to leave some blank space. We need some additional space for information to comply with the Virginia statutes and to provide for the name of the state so that the reports will come back to us and not be sent to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation by mistake. • We should try and get together on the basic information necessary. With the organizations represented here we should be able to compose a satisfactory statement. However, we do want to avoid as many changes as possible. Mr. Wells: I got my first bank job 20 yoars ago, standing in front of a new-fangled posting machine, and it seems that ever since then I have been reading in banking literature, the American L-nkers Association Journal and the Burroughs Clearing HOUS9 Journal, articles written by Mr. Wolfe. Probably he was not writing articles 20 years ago but I know of no one better qualified to give us the viewpoint of the banker. Mr. Wolfe: One thought suggested is that the banks Prepare this report solely because the law requires the report to be made. As stated by Mr, Folger, these reports are put to very little of the use for which they were https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 15 originally intended. It strikes me that as we discuss this matter, we ought to keep in the foreground the purpose of these reports. Why are we asked for them? There are two types of report, one solely for statistical purposes and in addition the report of the examiner. Each report should be carefully checked because it is the trend that counts and the reports indicate the trend. Te know then what kind of medicine to prescribe. It would seem to mo that the problem faced by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, tho Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, thc Federal Reserve Board, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Supervisory agenciGa is to detormine among themselves the type of report to be used. That would be a tremendous step in advancement of this purpose. The time might come when we co'lld reward the good banks by making examinations less frequent, or perhaps penalize the weak banks by making examinations more frequent. The 'problem' banks might have to be examined three or four times a year and the good ones only once a year. Personally, I do not have the confidence in examinations that the public seems to have, because we must remember that the banks were heretofore examined at least twice a year and yet many of them failed. ':Jhile I was manager of the Philadelphia loan agency of the R.F.C. I found things going on in banks that I was astonished to see haw an examiner could prepossibly have passed. The report of an examiner is one no whereas , auditor pared from the standpoint of an should say, should be) better could be (or perhaps qualified to pass on credit risks than the man who made the loan. The real work of examination will be done here by experts, highly paid, I hope. Call reports could be received three timos a year or as often as necessary. Decide among yourselves the type of uniform report you would like to have and if any bank objects, and you may expect that, do not be upset. They object for two reasons; (1) lack of time and help, which is quite true; (2) sheer laziness. In offsetting this sales resistance, the banker should offer no objection to a roal report. This is, briefly, all that occurs to me to say and if Mr. Griswold, chairman It of our group, has other suggestions to make, I will bo glad to hear them. Mr. ells: Mr. Will: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 'ant have you to way, Mr. "dill I realize how ridiculous our reports are in giving information to the public. If any group came to a bank, giving so litfle information, it could not borrow a dime. We do not show preferred creditors our pledged assets and other items of this nature. Maybe I am a 16 advanced but I think it is time that bani4ers gave the customers informative statements so that they would know where they were at. I hope this meeting will bring forth something of thrct kind. Mr. Wells called upon Mr. Arthur J. Linn, Secretary and Treasurer of National Association of Bank Auditors and Comptrollers, Tashington, D. C. Mr. Linn: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I have been asked to make a brief statement on Section III D of the preliminary conference agenda, dealing with the functions of the two reports now boing considered as aids to individual bank operations. It was surprising to me, after having given nearly 25 years of my life to the banking business, not to be able to reaaily find an answer to the first proposition dealing with the present uses of these reports by the individual banks. My first reaction, and I am speaking for myself and not for my associates on this committee, was to state that the reports are of no use, and so far as the banks with which I have been connected are concerned, such is the case. I have personally never seen either the condition reports or the earning and dividend reports put to any good internal uso. However, one of my col2eagues finds the earning and dividend report of considerable value in that it places the income statement of any given bank on a basis strictly comparable with the operating ratio reports issued by certain of the Federal Reserve Banks. I think it safe to say that as accountin departments become more highly organized, banks find less uselbr these two required reports. In the larger banks, earnings and expenses are statea at not less than monthly intervnls and the information required by the condition report is always available. However, in the case of the smaller institutions, I am inclined to believe that the very act of preparing the earning and dividend report may be a helpful influence and may bring to the signing officer a realization of conditions that he might not otherwise acquire. The same comment applies to the report of condition - especially Schedule "A" of the report. Undoubtedly, the information called for in Schedule "A" is accumulated by thousands of banks only on the occasion of the call and it is the call Laid only the call that affords an opportunity to directors to review, without personal embarrassment, the liabilities of officers and fellow directors. my personal conclusion, therefore, is that from an accounting viewpoint the value of the reports is relatively unimportant, but I do feel that they do 17 have value physchologically, so to sneak. As to tho question of improvement and insafe creased utility to the individual bank, I feel radicis g thin some that t emen d stat broa in making thc st equal ally wrong unless these reports aro of almo think this I ion. sact the tran to es value to all parti ing and earn the to arly icul part observation applies operatof d recor ent curr a is h dividend report, whic e' to s valu 'new more ably ider ing results and has cons n as itio cond of rt repo the the individual banker than of some past date. I feel that this committee is particularly earning well qualified to suggest improvements in the and dividend roport. nts, Such banks as he,ve statistical departme good mako dly Ubte undo Ls well as many private agencies, of rts repo from uso of thc statistical th,ta compiled To have condition and earnings and dividends reports. in anged -,,rr its maximum utility, this data should be . ions ivis subd size groups and by reasonable geographic standardiThere can be no question but that ization in aczation of reports, will promote standard this sub-comcounting procedure. In this connection, 'manuals of mittee strongly recommends the review of matter dealing with instructions' or other instructive d by supervisory these reports which are now being issue a thorough exploraaggncies and it further recommends terminology as a ng tion into the subject of accounti ing. focal point of this entire undertak orm treatUnless we have a well defined unif nding of rsta p unde grou ment of accounts based on a sound ization if dard stan tful doub account classification, it is vithe to indi value much of forms will in itself be of ion. an as itut inst business dual banks or to the banking Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis on the I would appreciate your suggestions at of least t be the firs method of procedure. This will disthe be given over to two meetings: this one will problems as brought out in ral gene broad cussion of the to be appointed to work then are es itte the agenda. Comm re conference shall then enti The . on individual problems of this preliminary ing meet d secon re-convene for the of the committees. ons esti sugg the conference to act on it is agreeable if e, rabl Such a procedure is very desi to the members of this conference. Inasmuch as there are no objections I will, 18 therefore, proceed to appoint the comr.ittee that are to formulate general, desirable objectives from the four different via7points. Mr. Wells appointed the following committees: COMMITTEE ON THE PUBLIC INFORMING FUNCTION OF CALL R7PORTS Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. H. H. Griswold, Chairman J. W. Massie George 0. Vass J. A. Will COMMITTEE ON FUNCTION OF REPORTS AS kN AID TO INDIVIDULL BANK OPERATION Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Arthur J. Linn, Chairman George D. Grimm H. H. Griswold R. G. Marx K. M. Morrison COMTAITTEE ON SUPERVISORY FUNCTIONS OF REPORTS Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. M. E. Bristow, Chairman John D. Hospelhorn, Alternate Chairman T. A. Kane R. F. Leonard Logan R. Ritchie COLTrITTEE ON GEITERn ECONOWIC AND STATISTICAL FUNCTIONS OF REPORTS .• https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. 'oodlief Thomas, Chairman E. H. Brandon George Eddy J. E. Horbott Donald S. Thompson COMMITTEE ON RESOLUTIONS Mr. Arthur J. Linn, Chairman Mr. M. E. Bristow Mr. M. J. Fox, Jr. Mr. H. H. Griswold Mr. John D. Hospelhorn Mr. 'J. A. Kano Mr. goodliof Thomas Mr. rolls: Thoso committoos will conveno the first morning. There wtll be no genoral sossth-thing in the ion until 11 o'clock A.M. tomorrow. At that time will ssion discu and ts repor thoir make will committoos follow. Tho committoo on rosolutions, will bo askod to report at the aftornoon scssion. Thoy will bo roquostod to prosont an outlino of tho gonoral objoc If agree . agree can rence tives upon which this confe to nted appoi be will ttee commi ment is reached, then a forms translate these genoral objectives into concrete wo time which at during the next two or three weeks shall reconveno. 7e shall now start at tho beginning of tho agonda and take up such matorial as has not yot boon specifically discussed. Under tho titlo I.- "Tho Problom"- quostton ion No. No. 1. com bo disposod of without comment. Quost of that, and ng 2. was only briofly discusscd this mor.ni that me to scorns courso, is a wry important itom. It the nasome of the men in washington, who have viewed offer. Your tional situation, might have something to this matagenda, Mr. Fox, suggests that you have given ter considerable thought. 7r. Fox: dices in A brief reference to the two appen report standardthis agenda will answcr in part whother ed with the draft was A dix ization is possible. Oppon Hospelhorn Mr. ttee. co-operation of Mr. Wells' commi cted all conta and work l did a large part of the actua statos eight t excep the state commissioners. In all is ation ardiz stand t the statutes aro such that ropor dix in ",ppon listod aro virtually possiblc. Those eight B. Nino states arc now using a form that is al Deposit Insursimilar to the ono in uso by tho Foder s could uso it. anco Corporation and 31 adclitional stato that rcport is ion quost tho to forc, thore Our answor, ding only ble, dopon possi itoly dofin stand-xdization is bank ers. ssion state thc commi of upon tho cooperation ,r Mr. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Thot would moan that eight states would have Thoy to ronder additional reports on cortain items. al reement sting by suppl reque this could, of courso, do ports. Would the bankors like to have uniform reports? I would also liko to ask some of tho Foderal people what has boon dono horetoforo in an endoo.vor to 20 achieve this end. Is this the first effort at unification, or have there been others? • Mr. Folger: Ls Mr. Fox said this morning, the Federal Corporation, the Federal Reserve Insurance Deposit Comptroller of the Currency are all inBoard, and the terested in unification. Mr. Fox: Te had our first meeting last November and as a result several definite conclusions were reached. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation wrote all st:cte bank commissioners, and unclosed a copy of the call form in use by the Corporation. It was pointed out that the form was practically identical with that used by the office of tho Comptroller of the Currency end the Federal Reserve Board. They were invited to use these forms, and we offered to furnish the same to them. Yine states accepted our invitation. The balance did not accept but many indicated their willingness to do so when the present supply of their own forms was exhausted. Another conclusion of that conference was that the form should not be altered until me had decided what would be the oventual form for all Federal agencies. Mr. Wells: Check what I say, Mr. Bristow. The hositancy of many of the states to use this form was because some felt that the form was not the ultimate in a call report schedule. I believe if this conference were to come to some conclusion, and re-diroctions and changes were to be made, we would find that many state supervisory authorities would bc more hospitable than they have been heretofore. Mr. Bristow: I am now speaking from experience. We have used the form for our ]ast two calls and found it was necessary to supplement it in order to get certain additional information. Our disposition, as indicated this morning, is to use the uniform form. We are very much in favor of it. Ifoa won't have any trouble in using any uniform form adopted. Mr. Wells: May I check another point2 We have a human factor which is very important. The men in our national association of state bank supervisors know that. What ought this assembled group do to sell the idea of uniformity to the state supervisors' group? I ask Mr. Bristow this quustion because of his long association with thu supervisory group. Mr. Bristow: tion. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I don't know just how to z:.nswer your quesI em looking at it from the standpoint of the 21 and bankers. We supervise Federal Reserve member banks we if e prepar to ents statem two have Each non-members. te ents. separa statem of idea the to adhere continue to If we could use a uniform form they wouldn't complain. Mr. Wells: Would we be able to get the supervisors who haven't fallen in line to do so? Most of them would probably fall in line and Mr. Bristow: eventually all of them. If your committee which represents the state commissioners would endorse the form, would it be readily adopted? Mr. Fox: I don't know. Mr. Wells: What do you think, Mr. Bris- tow? Won't your endorsement carry considerable committee weight with the National association and their on co-operation? Mr. Fox: of I should think it would have a great deal Mr. Bristow: that weight, Mr. Fox. Mr. Hospelhorn is chairman of committee. It would probably carry the majority? Mr. Fox: Mr. Wells: Mr. Wolfe: Mr. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis : said To add to what Mr. Bristow has just g - I, willin be Would w if Mr. Hospelhorn and Mr. Bristo this of t though for one, would bo willing to take the have a special group to our own particular group. We and I think weeks, meeting convening within tho next six that much make and we could got a majority in agreement progress. lvania I will undertake to speak to the Pennsy and I think he would do commissioner. I knew Luther Haar it if I asked him to. The next question is an important one. It s from Standpoint is - "The Appraisal of Present Report of: ts and consis se", of FUnction and Purpo Supervisory Function of Report. Statistical Function - General P,conomic Analysis. c. Call Report and General Public - Public Informing Function. d. Function of Reports as Aid to Individual Bank Operations. a. b. 22 Mr. Nolfe: Those particular functions are more propetby the examining division. We are the discussed ly patients, and they are the doctors. They should tell us what they want. The bankers ha -ve no right to decide this question other than to make helpful suggestions. When it comes to the publicity part of this question we should be heard from, but we, as bankers, should not tell the examining divisions what we want to get from them or give them - but we will tell them if it will be practical. Mr. Fox: One of the main reasons for assembling representatives of all interested groups is so that we will be able to take a broad view of the questions at hand and to receive the benefit of several points of view. It is not a question of one agency against the bankers, but a question for all of us to consider mutually. We solicit thc opinions of the bankers. Mr. Wolfe: I can offer you a suggestion. Some bankers may be angry at me for saying this. Forms should give the history of a bank's loans. Especially for statistical purroses. We should show the number of loans made, number partially paid, number renewed, number paid in full, etc. The trend would be very significant. For example, say there are three banks in one tawn. The loan reports of one bank would shaw a h3althy condition, some reported being paid, some reported being renewed. Another bank in the same town would show an entirely different picture. That should mean a lot to the groups in Washington. That is an exceedingly instructive sug- Mr. Fox: gpstion. Mr. Wolfe: Some banks and bankers are fearful of their depositors and borrowers. Such a loan record would show the history of a bank's loans, That, I think, would be very useful to the departments. Yes, that would be very helPful. CerMr. Morrison: tainly it shou1,1 be helpful to Nashington, because re do it in our awn affairs. Mr. Wolfe: Mr. Will: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis It would not be hard. It is very simple. We compiled and submitted such figures for the first half of last year. Unless such figures were forwarded regularly, rather than spasmodically, thywould be of little value. 23 Mr. Smead: Mr. Wells: Mr. Folger: They would servo as a basis for administrative action and would inform us as to just what is taking place with respect to loans. Mr. Folger, would they be useful in your opinion from a supervisory standpoint? Depending upon how far we would want to for those things. vrould it be burdensome to the banks? Mr. Wells: Mr. Tucker: Very possibly most banks represented here could obtain that information very easily, but the small country banks would have a more difficult time. Mr. Marx: My experience has been that when the call condition papers are sent out, there is a lapse of a few days before we get the actual call. There may be a couple of schedules that aro new. If we could have the information two or three weeks in advance, that a certain schedule is going to be called for, the banks would nerhaps be ready to give thqt information. On the last call theras was two or three weeks time we elapsed from the receipt of the call until the day the of ation weru informed to proceed in the compil schedule. Mr. Wolfe: Mr. Tucker: rr. Smead: Mr. bin): Mr. Folger: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis That suggestion was carried out on a faw if a occasions. It would be good for country banks, the that notice was sent out several weeks in advance a of next call report would havo to show the number bankls loans, etc. I don't controvert that such information would be extremely valuable both from the point of viau of the sup)rvisory authoritios and tho statistians. My point is that thu books of a large number of country banks are not arranged to reveal information of this type. We called for that information in 1934 new loans made and old. loans paid. 7e called for it from all member banks. My first work was in a country bank and we no trouble in furnishing such informahad have would tion. I just know about national member banks. 24 Mr. Grimm: I should think that no difficulty would be experienced in any of the small banks. They would have to change their method of operationsin the loan department and make a journal record of paid loans, but information could be compiled in a short time. On our weekly "board reports" we labol types of loans as to new loans, renewed various our renewed loans, etc. partially loans, Mr. Taylor, you see a lot of small town Mr. Wells: banks. Mr. Taylor: Mr• https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis It could be obtained from all banks but vary, deT)ending on their accounting ease would the systems. If the will was thore, it could be obtained from every bank without a great deal of trouble. Largo banks would not experience any Ritchio: troublo. Small banks would be in a more difficult position. we have boon working for ye-Irs on these small country banks to put in ledgers of a cartain kind and it has taken years for them to do it, I say this so you can see what happens when you do not have the statutes to back you up. It is a matter of education. 25 Mr. Wells: We have received many ideas which the comrittees will want to consider when they go into their sessions. How frequently should we have reports to quarterly, fulfill the supervisory. function - monthly, , think you do What wise? semi-annually or other quaryear, a three be ts repor Mr. Folger? Should the ? terly, or more frequently Mr. Folger: Mr. Wolfe: Mr. Folger: Mr. Wells: Mr. Wolfe: Mr. Folger: Certainly not more frequently. three a year. I think Is there anything in the law, Mr. Folger, which would decide the number of examinations per year? Yes. Not less than two or as often as the are to Comptroller of the Currency wishes. If there would be less than two an amendment to the present law have to be made. Starting July 1, 1935, with the co-operan, we tion of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporatio an on banks best in Indiana are going to put our secondary annual examination basis; those banks in a such a not in those ; position on a nine months basis lem" "prob the anct ; good position on a semi-annual basis banks on a quarterly basis. be very Two examinations a year can either gena y purel complete or very perfunctory, that is, to hing somet oral check-up. We might be able to do only is good, reward good banks. If their record d be necessary shoul year n one detailed examinatio cursory. I lege or more n and the other examinatio ded for rewar bu d shoul bank believe that a man or a excellency. They must have had your idea in mind when nations or as passing thu law, requiring two exami power to penalize the often as necessary. This implies a poorly managed bank. Are the call reports for the help of the Mr. Morrison: for superstatistical department; or are they used require twelve mii;ht work l stica Stati visory purposes? require would work y visor super reports a year, but point of this ion ficat only two or three. A clari y. tivel more cffcc will enable us to function https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 26 Mr. Wells: The appointed committees might make recommendtAions on this point. Detailed forms would be based upon the general recommendations we adopt tomorrow after the committees report. Mr. Smead: The monthly reports should be in a condensed form. The supervisory anthoritius might wish to expand two of the monthly reports and accept these expanded reports as the regular call report for supervisory and public informing purposes, so that the banks vrould have to make out only two detailcd reports. This matter goes back to the question of what is a report for. It seems to me that the constructive suggestion has been made that call statements, as published for public information, be considered one type of report and that reports submitted more frequently for statistical purposes should be of and entirely different nature. If it is decided to proceed on that basis, we could work out report forms which undoubtedly would fulfill each purpose. Until the fundamental question of purpose is decided we cannot determine whet should be included or what to omit in the report forms. Mr. Leonard: • Mr. Wolfe: I would like to see tho reports go into somc detail as to the make-up of deposits. Most country banks have demand and timc deposits. What it really means is deposits on which they arc paying interest and tnoso on which they are not. There should be a break-down to show which are thrift accounts and which are business accounts. Mr. Wells: The reports in our state contain a comprehensive analysis of the deposit structure and size of the individual accounts. Mr. Wolfe: I don't think the amount is as important as the nature of the account. If the depositor is a busine3s man he should be ablu to have a time deposit but not a savings "business" account. hir. Wells: Large accounts from any one group might embarrass a bank. That information could be determined once Mr. Wolfe: a year. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis For supervisory purposes should dates of call be regular or irregular? 27 Mr. Wolfe: If on regular dates there might be a tendency toward "window-dressing." Mr. Wells: They should, I presume, be on regular dates for statistical purposes. Mr. Tucker: At our November meeting it was stated Lhat banks "window-dress" for the public and not for statistical or supervisory purposes. If the information is to bc roquired at regular monthly intervals, but not published, I think it would do away with the "window-dressing." Do the banks in the 91 cities which render weekly reports to the Federal Reserve Board "window-dress" in these reports? I believe the answer is "No". Mr. Will: I have seen a lot of seasonal deposits and "window-dressing". Unknown date is a preferable procedure. We now have June 30 and December 31 and two dates unknown. 4 Along that point let us get back to the Mr. Leonard: question of the report. There was a good deal of discussion as to the date of the month to procure reports for statistical purposes which would reflect the averages and do away with certain fluctuations. There is a difference between a report for statistical purposes and one for publication. Statistical reports could be called for as of regular dates and reports for publication could be called for as of irregular dates. If it were decided, however to use a combination report in the months when the call is made for reports for publication, two of the calls could be on fixed dates and the third on an irregular date. Mr. Wells: Thu Comptroller now has one movable date and two fixed dates; that is, practically fixed - June 30 and December 31. Do you have any suggestions on this subject, Mr. Griswold, and will you speak for the American Bankers Association committee? I think regular reports are the logical Mr. Griswold: thing. Banks are in the habit of expecting the June 30 and December 31 calls. Mr. Linn: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis In Mr. Folgeris remarks this morning he were used largely for statistical reports these said that Mr. Smead emphasized the ng Followi s. purpose . This leads me to wonder reports weekly of value al value in any of the reports practic any is if there for supurvisory purposes. 28 The weekly reports requested by the Mr. Horbett: Federal Reserve Board are received from about 350 banks in 91 leading cities. • I believe the Comptroller of the CurMr. Bristow: rency says he can call three times a year. In Virginia we have a companion statute so that whenever the Comptroller calls, we also make a call. I think that would be a good thought for uniformity for all the other state bank commissioners to follow. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and the Federal Reserve Board aro, I presume, more or less following the Comptroller of the Currency. I do not refer to any irregular requests for information. A good system of uniformity to follow, it would seem, is to call whenever the Comptroller calls. He determines whun it is best to make a call from the national banks in the United States, and I think it would be well for us to follow suit. Mr. Wells: Unless someone has wishes to the contrary, we will leave this matter to the committees and expect them to bring coherence out of it. The statistical function is absolutely essential, but as it was well presented this morning we won't conoider it further at this time, unless someone has something they can volunteer. Mr. Wolfe: If reports are submitted monthly for statistical purposes, Mr. Foiger, wouldn't the June 30 and December 31 continue to follow? They have been used to some extent on those dates. If monthly statements for statistical purposes were adopted, then irregular calls would be quite the normal thing, would they not? Mr. Folgcr: Yes. Mr. Wells: The next matter is the appraisal of report forms from the standpoint of the general public, that is, the public informing function. What should be the basic requirements for such reports? How frequcntly should thu public be informed? Mr. Will, you have given a groat deal of thought to this matter. What do you have to suggest? Mr. Will: Quarterly statements should be sufficient for the public. The statements should be more detailed so they would mean something. Do like they do in Cqnada and England - publish an earning statement. . https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 29 Would that be desirable? Mr. Wells: Mr. Will: It would be from the standpoint of the stockholders and the depositors. The present published statement is meaningless. The question is how far we want to go. I would suggest that the assets be grouped under pledged and unpledged, and the liabilities under sccurud, preferred, ordinary liabilities, and capital funds - the same as a commercial house, when it shows a statement to procure credit. Mr. Folger: Relative to pledged assets, Mr. Will, don't you think the present statement is OK? Mr. Will: Footnote items are almost always overlooked. Do like a great many business houses and show the ordinary depositors just where they stand. Mr. Smead: What is the purpose of published condition reports? Information and advertising, both. Mr. Will: Mr. Smead: Vthat is the real purpose of publishing the statement of an individual bank? Mr. Will: To show the public the statement and for advertising purposes. lithy does the law require it to be Mr. Smead: published? Mr. Will: Legal statement is published in a bankers' magazine or newspaper. Mr. Smead: If we aro going to discuss the publication of reports, we must know at what we are aiming. Mr. Folgur: The intent of Congress was probably to givu public information as to the condition of the bank. Mr. Grimm: I am for the showing of valuations as they should be. Thu average published report of banks in newspapers never means a thing. When we classify deposits we should denote which are normal and which are for a certain specific purpose. For exemple, a deposit of fifty million dollars to retire an issue of bonds is for a special purpose and https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 30 it should be shown that way in the statement. The public is certainly interested in the decline of deposits. Mr. Wells: Mr. Griswold, what have you to say? Mr. Griswold: As regard Mr. Grimm's remarks, I the dividing line is. Our statewhere see don't reflect what we thought about our dements would posits. Mr. Grimm: I grant you that possicility. The individual would suffer, but not the supervisory authorities. I don't want to be panalized, if I choose to throw out a special deposit in order to give the public the truth. It eould be optional. For instance, deposits cf tax funds which have been in for a period of one or two weuks and then withdrawn. This, however, is not shown in the specialized report. Mr. Griswoldl Who makes up the form of report you are talking about? Mr. Grimm: Many banks do. We should havu the practice encouraged as Indiana does. Mr. Wells: You defeat the purpose of published statement unless you have regulations covering the reports that are publishc4, with the same information used in one publication as in another. In Indiana we have it oo regulated that banks must adhere to certain break-downs in any published report. Mr. Vass: The present published statement, it is true, does not give much information. Thu question is how far an. we going to go into these things. The people in Washington know the banking situation as a whole and they must consider any elaboration of the printed statement to be used in publication. I have not studied it enough myself. Some of the men in these agencies would have a lot of weight in determining what should be published. • I am inclined to wonder as to the value Mr. Brandon: of published bank reports. Why waste the money that is spent on publishinj them? Deposit insurance protects the little follow so we might as well cease publication altogether and furnish to those wao can understand it a detailed statement that would be sufficiently elaborate to be intelligently under- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 41=1111111111MINEM 31 stood by the average man. Mr. Smuad: The stockholders' liability is well reflected in the statement. I think that is an imPortant thing. If the statement ruflccts the condition of the bank, that is what the customers are interested in. Does the average man in the street Mr. Brandon: know that? I again refer to comments in newspapers, their comments based on condition statements. Mr. Wolfe: Will Mr. Fox tell us if the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation would like to have a bank advertise that it is very weak. Mr. Fox: Deposit insurance protects in full 98 per cent of all depositors. Mr. Wolfe: chronism. Mr. Tucker: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Publication of a statement is an anaIt doesn't mean anything. To determine from published condition statements whether individual depositors could have made a reasonably accurate differentiation between banks which remained open, and banks which were closed during the depression was the object of a study conducted by B. M. Giles and F. L. Garlock. This study analyzed certain ratios obtained from the published call statements of selected banks in Arkansas for a period of many years through 1932. During the period approximately 50 per cent of the banks studied were closed. The title of the survey is "General Indicators of the Conditions of Arkansas Banks." The most interesting conclusion of the stuay was that the ratios of book capital to deposits for the banks which aere closed were practically identical with the ratios for banks which remained open. This is perhaps indicative of the extent to which bank statements do not show an actual evaluation of assets. However, the authors did discover certain indicators or ratios which, in their opinion, would have becn sound criteria for depositors. Those indicators in the order of their reliability are as follows: (1) Loans, other stocks and bonds, and real estate (minus capital funds) to deposits; 32 (2) Cash resources and net United States securities minus borrowed money to deposits; (3) to deposits; (4) Loans and othor stocks and bonds Loans to deposits; (5) Cash resources minus borrowed money to deposits; (6) Borrowed money to deposits. (7) Cash resources and not United States securities to deposits. (8) Cash resources to deposits. It will be noted that each indicator is a complex liquidity ratio or its inverse. Carried to its logical conclusion, the argument of this survey is that banks, with a large proportion of Government bonds ana cash ana with a small volume of loans and discounts, and wIth no borrowed money, are thc soundest. It is doubtful if liquidity in itself is c complete formula for distinguishing sound from weak banks, but such is the apparent conclusion of this study. Undoubtedly, few depositors have a sufficient understanding of balance sheets to make detailed analyses, and with the advent of the FDIC the small depositors are largely relieved of this responsibility. The fact that banks themselves havu lost sizable sums deposited in other banks indicates that bankers themselves have often not beon able to differentiate between sound and unsound institutions from published statements. From the survey of Mr. Gile and Mr. Garlock, a differentiation on the basis of the margin of capital protection is apparently subject to misgivings, because bank statements are not and could not be actual evaluations. For obvious reasons a summary of examination reports cannot be published. Then, too, to differentiate purely on a basis of liquidity is on thu whole unsound. It would seem, therefore, that the use of the call report to depositors, from the point of view of their protection, is open to serious question. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis That was very good, Mr. Tuckur. Mr. Smead, 33 do you agree with the first conclusion of the two made by Mr. Tucker? Mr. Smead: The answer is obviously, no. Whether it is desirable or not I am sure I don't know. True valuations should of course be published. Mr. Wells: Is it mechanically possible to have true values published, correct statements of equity, etc.? Mr. Smead: That is the desirable thing, you think? Mr. Will: Exactly. Close the bank or let it fail. Mr. Smead: If published statements reflect the true condition of banks there will be no difficulty in the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's taking care of depositors. !Ars Fox: For the record, would you, Mr. Wolfe, bring up the matter of thc Internal Revenue Department. Mr. Wolfe: I tolc: Mr. Fox that I thought we should have had a member of thc Internal Revenue Department present at this conference. The bank examiner comes in and says, "Charge off this item." Then the field examiner from the Internal Revenue Deitem partuent examines our bank and says, 'Tut the beare You loss. back on the books -- it isn't a a as and sea tween the devil and the deep blue result the average banker doesn't have the respect he should have fur the supervisory authorities. You fellows in Washington should get your heads together on this matter. 4Ir. Wells: We were discussing item C on page 3 of the agenda, Public Informing Function of Call Reports - frequency, regularity, and content. Are there any suggestions before we move to the next topic of the agenda? We will proceed to item D on page 4 of the agenda. Mr. Linn is ready to go into this matter. Mr. Linn: I have covered this matter in my re. morning this marks Is there anything else to add at this 21r. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis tirae? 34 Mr. Linn: The details should be worked out by the committees. Bankers should have the privilege of Mr. Griswold: using their reports for publication purposes, also havu the right to use those reports as a tool for management rather than as a proof. Mr. Morx: I did not know that the banks used the reports after they were preparud and sent to the Comptroller or the Federal Reserve Board, except possibly for comparative purposes with othcr banks in their own communities. That is done quite frequently. My objection has buen tnat banks' statements are nut reaCily used by clwtoAers of the banks, excedt ?ossibly by some large corporate =counts. Mr. Wells: Are all of you familiar with the studies Mr. SL,ronck made, setting up typical data by districts? I do not know how widely different banks use the data at this time. Mr. Wolfe: In our own bank we find the data very helpful and useful as a basis for comparison. It could be very useful, but not enough of the banks use it. Mr. Smead: We have been informed from time to time that a larger number of banks are looking into this matter; particularly in cases where their profits and loss accounts do not look so good. Mr. Marx: I have often thought that if a comparison could be made between banks of a like size and typo of business, the comparison would have been more beneficial. • Mr. Leonard: Some of the Federal Reserve Banks have for a number of years prepared an analysis along that iinu and some of the forms had a blank column so th4t the ban_c receiving the analysis could fill in its own figures and obtain a comparison with other banks of its own size. The Philadelphia Reserve Bank recently prepared an analysis of earnings and expenses of member banks in its district showing the percentages by banks classified in several groups as to size. The preparation of such an analysis entails a large amount of work and in sending the recent analysis to the member banks the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia requested an expression of opinion https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 35 of the banks as to the value to them of such an analysis. I think possibly the Boston figures Mt. Brandon: are the best I have seen, because they are much more detailed. Mr. Snead: About half of the Federal Reserve Banks compile and disseminate such information for the use of member banks. We use the Stronck reports quite freely. Mt. Morrison: We have not seen reports from the Federal Reserve Bank at Minneapolis, and as I am very much interested, I will make it a point to check up with the bank when I return home. Mr. Massie: We use for comparative purposes the data compiled by the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank. In Chicago the banks make wide use of Mr. McMahon: the data compiled by the Federal Reserve. On the occasion of the last report, several of the large banks made a comparison of their own banks and then compared their figures with the compilations of their contemporaries. Mr. Fox: Would it be possible to have thL various clearing house associations co-operate in regard to the use of any standard report form that is adopted? Chicago, I am curtain, will be favorMr. McMahon: able. The manager of our local clearing house would certainly welcome any suggestions on methods which would be progressive and would adopt the final form for use by the local clearing house asc,Jciation. Mr. Grimm: If the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation should disseminate figures from Washington which were country-wide in scope would they noT, loose their significance because of the variance in interest rates, etc.? The data would be valuable only if applied to districts. Mr. Fox: Would the New York clearing house association be favorable to the adoption of a standard form, Mr. Will? Mr. Kill: The New York clearing house is favorable to the whole procedure. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 36 rhir• -sie: Dallas is favor-blu. I have a form used by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in regard to point rating analysis. I am sure it is a form not known to the member banks. Wouldn't it be a good idea to funds'. member banks with this form oo that they can make their own analysis? is a form wc have developed here trial stage. Until we gut it in do net think it would be advisable hands of the member banks. Mr. Taylor: That and iu is in its its anal form I to put it in the Mr. It would be splendid to put this in the hands of individual banks to see how they stack up. The trouble is that banks that need it the most nut do anything with it, and I don't know of anything at this moment Lo overcome this. Are there any further comments on B? Thu mattur of standar(lization has been very definitely Ciscussed, unless someone else has something further to offer? Mr. Smead: My general feeling is that the examination report has to be relied upon almost entirely for supervisory purposes. The call report is made up by the bank raid can be used for the purpose of deterodning trends, but some information might be incorporated which be helpful from an administrative standpoint. Mr. Folger: As stated this morning the call reports are used largely for statistical purposes, and for supervision we rely upon th, reports of examination which are more in uetail. Mr. Taylor: I think that we have to rely solely on the exnmination report for supervisory purposes. The function (if the call report is primarily f)r statistical purposes and does not incor,)orate enough detail to be of any roal value. We must rely upon examinations reports almost entirely to dctermine the condition of banks. We use the cali ruports in our departMr. Bristcw: ment in connection widi our supervisory duties. I fer31 somewhat like Mr. Taylor, that we like to rely on ux,.tmination reports, but in our state we do make usu of the call statements also. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 37 I vould like to remark on one Dr two things which have been discussed and presented at this mucting, awl to statu the viewpoint of the smaller banks. Aside from the representatives of thu ardervisory agencius, all of yDu contleuon represent large banks. Some of thc things we,.have discussed, I feel, aru too far a(lvanced for our smaller banks, and we have to cmsidor the small bLnKs because we have so many of them. I took over the ..opartment in Virginia when Ile had about 350 statu banks; now they aro down to about 196. Through failures, eliminations and consolidations, they have been reduced to 196, and wu bolievo that the ceneral condition of those rumaintng banks has boon improved gruatly. The work is in process, but I don't know if we aru ready as yet to try all If the things you have in mind. I hope Ghe tine will come whon our publishcd statements will reflect a fair vppraisal of the situation of our banks. We aro, however, not ready to take vanced steps at the moment. I believe it was very well covered Mr. Leonard: this morning, when it was stated that supervision by use of the examination report is best. At luast until Mr. folfe's suggestion is adopted, I feel that supervision is best uaintainod through tho medium of examination reports. I might add in this connection thai, so far as State member banks arc concerned, tho immediate supervision on the in par.i; of the Federal Reserve officials is handled Agents Reserve the offices of the various Federal ual as they have closer contact with the individ ton Washing the banks. Thu basis for the review in thc report is office of tho Federal Reserve Board of oxamination. We use the call report in certain cases to determine whether capitalaljustments and capital programs have gone through as indicated. iioever, in cases of particular problems, the various situations are followed by requests for definifte information bearing on the particular problem rather than by use of call reportc. Mr. Will: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I think thu Comptrollor has given a fine dufinition of the various items appearing in the call report and the dividend and earnings report. AS tO terminlugy, we have boon fighting over that for 25 years, and it cannot be suttled today or tomorrow. The American Bankurs Association and the associations of bank auditors can do a lot toward ironing ou'', the difficulties of terminology, but 38 it is a long drawn out subject. The main principles of accounting systems in banks of any size aro generally uniform as to the various classes of earnings and expenses. Mr. Smuad: There should be detailed instructions so that banks may not misinterpret items called for and also a complete manual of definitions of items appearing in the report. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's list of definitions is about the same as ours. Mr. Linn: 'I don't want to speak for the associapersonally urgc on my own group, the I but tion Naticnal Association of Bank Auditors and Comptrollers, their most careful consideration of the question of uniform terminology. I know that it is something that cannot be done in a short time, but I do feel we should make a start in that direction. At a meeting hold here last November, Mr. Will read into tho record his definition of "a reserve for contingencies", and asked Mr. Kane if his definition was in accordance with the Treasury Department. Mr. Kane said that it was exactly the reverse. It has been only a few years ago since certain governmental agencies failed to recognize the distinction between accrued liabilities and appropriations of surplus. In other words, anything that might be earmarked reserve was, in the viewpoint of these governmental agencies, considered a liability. We know that this is not always the case, and I think it quite important that terms be clarified in any manual of instructions. I would liku to also commonu this to the American Bankers Association for consideration. Mr. Griswold: I was under the impression that the association had set up a committee to make a complete study of this subject. It is a very proper thing to suggest that the association have the committee appointed and follow through to its objective. Mr. V.:olfe: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I might sk that I have been greatly as I sat here today. Hero is one organizaimpresscd F. D. I. C., which gives consideration to tion, the the bankers' point of view. Me question of tic wcy to liandle uniform accounting is the way you have boon handling -tese other matters hero today. If left to the bankers, everyone will have a different method. If the bankers have confidence in and 39 sympathy for someone who knows their needs they will co-opurato.) Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The various committees are requested to function on their assignments and report to the general session at 11 A. M. tomorrow, May 23rd. Mueting adjourned at 4:15 P. M. 40 General session May 23, 1935. at 11 A.M. by Chairman Wells. Meeting called to order Mr. Wells: It might be wise to have some expression on the future procedure for the conference. It has been suggested that we have the committee reports now, followed by a full discussions of each report. The reaction of the conference to the cormaittee reports will be for the guidance of the Resolutions Committee which is to meet immediately after the a6journment of this session. The Resolutions Committee will function until perhaps 3:30 this afternoon, and as a part of the deliberation of that committee, it is to make recommendations to the conference as to the machinery for the next three to six weeks. !fter the general principles and recommendations have been erumerated by the Resolutions Committee and finally considered and adopted in full or in part by the conference, we might also wish te set up the machinery to carry these general principles into actual forms. Are thore any reactions as to the kind of procedure to follow? Would such a procedure as I have outlined meet with your wishes? Mr. Linn: Te should have an expression from the representatives of banks that are quite some distance from Washington. Their presence lere represents a substantial contribution on the part of theseindividual banks. mr. wells: That is the reason why we wish to have expressions as to the future proceedings of the conference. I would suggest that we hear from the men from the more distant points. Mr. Massie, Texas always seems far away to me. Mr. Massie: Texas believes that it is in the center of things. I was in hopes that we would be able to arrive at some definite conclusions on this matter without another trip. However, I am willing to do whatever the committee as a whole thinks best. If it is necessary, in the opinion of the committee, to have a meeting in a month or six weeks, it will be satisfactory with me. Mr. Wells: Mr. Grimm: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis A generous expression. The presence of the men from the banks, in itself, indicates the cooperation that we may expect. However, can we justify our commuting back and forth? T do not imply that the bunks begrudge this expense. As to the committee's work on revised report forms, it will be very difficult for a man in Washington to talk to a man in Dallas at intervals of two, three or six 41 wooks. We shall havo to consider this problem. We aro taking those men away from thoir bunks for a long while. We must organizo the work so that they can go back to their various groups and find out what approach will bn best, and what they will submit at the next meeting. We must break down tho reports after wo find out whothor the rcports servo their purposo or not. Personally, I don't think a call report means much from the standpoint of supervision. We are going to have a difficult timo as certain logal requirements must be mot. We want to draw up tho idoal roport and givo ample consideration to all points of view. Yr. Wells: Do you have any suggestions to offor to the Resolutions Committoo in making rocommondations to tho general group, Tako into account tho problems you havc outlined as to time, distanco, and manpowcr available. Mr. Grimm: The next mooting should bo relativoly soon. The longor you postpono it thc cooler wo get, and tho hottor it will got in Washington. Perhaps it is not a problom to be solvod in throe woeks, but I think we can draft somothing that would bo acceptable and satisfactory. Mr. Wells: Thank you, Mr. Grimm. The matter boforo us is our procedure for the remainder of today, and the recommendations which the Resolutions Committee shall make as to future procedure. Is thero any reaction to the suggestion which has been made by Mr. Grimm? Mr. Smead: :Jr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis One inquiry, please. As far as the Resolutions Committee is concerned, is it suggested that bank men draw up suggestions for the supervisory authorities or that the supervisory authorities draw up suggestions for the banks? After we have had the reports read and hoard the reactions of tho conforence to them, thon tho Resolutions Committee will go into sossion and try to draft the principles which this group endorses. Then a small committoe will work for six. weeks or so on the problom of translating thesc principles and genoral objectivos into concrete forms. Tho committee will submit its rocommended forms to oach mamber of the conferonco somc two wooks before wo reconvono, so that oach mombor will have an opportunity to study thm. Upon roconvening tho general conference, we will attempt to draft thc final 42 forms and to put the wishes of this group behind persuading all agencies to recognize our recomrendations. Mr. Smead: That is all true, but I want to know the combinations of these various committees. Will the supervisory authorities be represented, or just bank representatives? mr. Wells: That is a matter on which the conference should instruct the Resolutions Committee. It will be necessary to work out the details of that machinery. For the brnefit of tho Resolutions Committee, Idr. Smead, what are your further ideas in this connection? Mr. Smoad: I haven't given any amount of thought to it. My feeling would be that the committee should be made up of bank representatives who would work in close cooperation with the supervisory bodies. The supervisory authorities could make suggestions from time to time as to the feasibility and desirability of certain items and with the object of bcing as helpful as possible. The bank rk-presentatives would submit the report. That is the thought that runs through my mind naw. tr. Grimm: It occurs to me that thc committee should of the various points of view. I representative be have a representative from committee suggest that the a member who will vim it some statistical division, from tho requirements of the law, and one who will view the report from thc standpoint of bank operat3ons and the ease with which the figures may be secured. Each man, as it were, will protect his own interest. Otherwise we might exclude something which is very vital to a particular point of view; for instance, the statistician will want a lot of things which the bank operations man would object to on practical grounds. Mr. Wells: A very good suggestion and it suggests something else to mo. This conference will enumerate certain desirable objectives this afternoon. 7hy not delegate to a small general committee in 7ashington technicians in these Federal agencies - the job of getting together the form which will mcet these general objectives, then have these forms scnt out to the mambors of this conferonce with amnlo time to study them? We could then reconvene for our final session and make the necessary recomTendations. 'Would that be deleFating too much to the Federal authorities? Mr. Grimm: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Most logical thing to do. A 43 Mr. Wells: They would have the reactions of the state bankinr commissioners at hand. They could always get hold of Mr. Hospelhorn if they wanted the reaction from that group. Bankers and auditors in tho District of Columbia could furnish the bankers' point of view. If general objectives are not c2ear at any timo, the small group would be as close to any member of the conference as it would be to the telephone. That is one possible way of doing it. Are there other suggestions that the Resolutions Committee mi -ht take along with them into their meeting for setting up the proper machinery? We have two or three things before us today. One, the procedure for today; Second, whether or not consider future machinthe Resolutions Committee ery; and third, the various suggestions for future machinery. Mr. Grimm: That would the Federal agencies think of having this delegated to them? Mr. rens: That do you think, Mr. Smead? Mr. Smead: I would like to discuss it with some of the other Federal representatives. It is a difficult problem to handle. If the representatives of the various Federal agencies should prepare the form, it couldn't easily be submitted to the State supervisory authorities and others in advance of its completion. If it is recognized as the product of a joint staff of the Federal agencies and any of the authorities in Washington should later decide to have nothing to do with it, it would be an embarrassing situation all around. It might be a good idea to hear from othurs. Mr. Wells: If the suggestions of this staff are good an-' this group concoorg,thr, agency that dissents is the one under which we must put some heat. So we don't have to worry about that particular phase of it at all. Nhat are your reactions, Mr. Fox? Mr. Fox: We are comnaratively new at the game and Mr. Smead speaks with a great deal of experience and with more authority thn we do. I will say this, however, that our method of approach has been different from that of the other Federal agencies. Our method has been to subject much of our material to the criticisms of bankers. Whether that method can be employed by the other Federal agencies, is another question. The ideas outlined by Mr. Grimm are suitable to me. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis What have you to say, Mr. Thomas? m11 44 Mr. Thomas: Someone said yesterday, "You toll us what you need and we will give it to you. We don't know what the various agencies need and they don't know what we have to give them." It is our job to make the form complete from the point of view of what is needed, and then find out if it is feasible from the point of view of the banks. Mr. Vall Speaking for the Reserve City Bankers Association, I feel sure we vimuld endorse whatever the Government agencies could get together on. Until they do we are up a tree. Mr. Grimm: To are getting a little out in the open field perhaps, due to the fact that I did not make clear the suggestion which I had in mind. I did not mean that the drafting committee would be represented by men from each of the groups at this conference, I would have as a representative a statistical man, though he may even be a banker, a representative from anyone of the supervisory groups, and a legal expert. The bank auditor gets statistics in his own bank, and he isn't concerned with the problems that affect the general economic structure of the country. His point of view would be frequently different from the point of view of the Federal agencies, and often the statistical expert and the legal technician. If I suggested that every Federal agency be represented I want to make clear th:.t I did not have that in mind. Mr. Wells: Vle were having a discussion as to whether the Resolutions committee would make recommendations as to the set up of this general machinery. Could we have some reaction as to whether or not wo should have the Resolutions Committee work on this problem? Mr. Will: I so move. Mr. Grimm: I second the motion. Mr. Tells: The 'ayes' have it and the motion is carried. Mr. Tolls: Mr. Vali: Mr. Tells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Next point - do wo wish definitely to instruct the Resolutions Committee as to the machinery or lot them deliberate - keeping an open-door this afternoon? Put it in the lap of the Resolutions Committee. Shall we now receive the committee reports, then adjourn for a sufficient time to let the Resolutions Committee outline possible future objectives and set up of the machinery necessary to carry these objectiires in- 45 to effect? Mr. Linn: I so move. Mr. Will: I second the motion. Mrb Wells: The 'ayes' have it and the motion is cerried. Mr. Wells: We will now have the report of the committee on the public informing function of call reports. Mr. Griswold is chairman of that committee and will present the report. Mr. Griswold: REPORT OF THE COMITTEE ON THE PUBLIC INFORMING FUYCTION TO CALL REPORTS Your conmittee appointed to consider the pubthe lic informing function to call reports believes that the of ller form of call report prescribed by the Comptro esthe s Currency and the Federal Reserve Board contain sential items that furnish the public an accurate stateof the banks' resources and liabilities as reflected by its books. While it is true these items may or may not be fully illuminating as to valuations of assets, this Committee does not feel that it is within its province to make a recommendation on this subject. The Committee believes it is highly desirable that the various State Banking Departments adopt the above mentioned form. (signed) H. H. Griswold John A. 7111 J. T. Massie George 0. Vass Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The committee believes that the form of call report prescribed by the Comptroller of the Currency and the Federal Reserve Board contains 2ufficient items for the public informing function,. and the committee doesn't feel that it is within its province to make changes in 46 the forms which will require changes in the law. Our procedure calls for a discussion rather of this report and all of the other adoption than an reports that will follow. Is there any discussion on this report? Are there views to the contrary? Yesterday there was considerable discussion Mr. Leonard: as to whether a call report should be published for general information and whether the public actually received much information at the present time. It was pointed out that the call report form was often :mblishsod in a rather obscure manner, and a condensation which was rather uninformative was given the emphasis. I wonder if we shouldn't clear up th:,t point. We considered it hardly within our province Mr. Griswold: to suggest changes which are against existing laws. Mr. Eddy: my impression is that the form now used does not inform the /Dublic. Mr. Wells: Are there any other reactions? your idea, Mr. Folger? What is I am in agreement with the committee's re- Mr. Folger: port• Mr. Wells: Any other suggestions or reactions? If not, we shall then hear from Mr. Hospelhorn, chairm-n of the committee on the supervisory functions of reports. I want to introduce Mr. Hospelhorn who is an active member of the National Association of Supervisors of State Banks. He is Mr. Ghingher's right-hand man. Mr. Hospelhorn: We had a conference which lasted about one and one-half hours and the following report was adopted by the committee. Mr. Hospelhorn: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis REiORT OF THE COrMITTEE ON StPERVISORY FUNCTIONS OF REPORTS 1. We believe that the primary supervisory report is that of the examinor. 2. We feel th', ..t the primary purpose of the repOrt of condition is for statistical information and for tho use of the public. 3. That the call reports as presently constituted are usod to some extent in a supervisory capacity. AIMMEMMil01.1. 47 4. In many cases, however, the supervision recpires obtaining special reports dealing more particularly with individual problems. 5. That the form as presently constituted serves the general purpose of supervision and in view of the fact that the primary purpose of the report is for statistical and public information, wo believe that any form adopted for that purpose which would contain substantially the present information would meet the needs of the various stmervisory authorities. 6. It is recomr-ended that the form be kept as simple as possible. (signed) J. D. Hospelhorn M. E. Bristow L. R. Ritchie R. F. Leonard W. A. Kane Mr. 1Vells: 71e huve heard the report of that committee. there any questions, suggestions, or criticisms which you would like to offer? Mr. Fox: .7ould the committee care to enumerate more srJecifically what it had in mind? aat aspects of the call report are now used as a supervisory medium and what aspects are used for statistical purposes? Mr. Kane has an article which he wollld like Mr. Hospelhorn: to read which may clear up those points. Mr. Kane: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis MEMORANDUM FOR THE COM1ITTEE ON THE SURERVISORY FUNCTIONS OF REPORTS As a result of a complete reorganization and rec9pitalization of national banks which were not licensed to reopen aftor the holiday and as a result of the capital structure strengthening in a very large percentage of the other banks, which program has provided in most instances for the elimination of losses in the banks, it is felt that the rational b,nks as a _A https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 48 whole are in stronger and better condition than they have been for a long time and, of course, is reflected by their books and in reports of condition and published statements. Examiners are for supervisory purposes and the personnel of that force including assistants under the Comptroller's supervision number more than 500. liv-ith a competent examining force in the field and their work supervised by the Comntroller's office in Washington and the chief national bank examiners in the field, it is not believed the Comptroller should undertake to supervise national banks by reports of condition except to supplement information appearing in the examination reports. In fact, it was probably not the intent of Congress that such should be done when we consider that Section 5211 requiring the call report was provided for in the Act of June 3, 1864, and Section 5240 of the National Bank Act also approved June 3, 1864, provided for the appointment of examiners by the Comptroller, with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, to examine every member bank at least twice each year and oftener if considered necessary. Section 5240 provides further that examiners making the examinations of national banks shall have power to make a thorough examination of all the affairs of the bank and shall make a complete and detailed report of the examination of each bank to tho Comptroller. It is interesting to note also that Section 5240 as amended June 16, 1933, provides in part that "The Comptroller of the Currency shall have pauer, and he is hereby authorized, to publish the report of his examination of any national banking association or affiliate which shall not within one hundred and twenty days after notification of the recommendations or suggestions of the Comptroller, based on said examination, have complied with the same to his satisfaction." Of course, as indicated by Mr. Folger in his remarks yesterday, these reports are used in connection with examiner's reports but certainly are not in such detail as to classifications and could not be expected to include appraisals and comments by officers of banks with the samo degree.of value to a supervising authority as would be obtained from a report of examination. True, if we had no examining force visiting banks under Section 5240 or no other means of knowing the condition of a bank, we might have to resort to call reports for supervisory purposes, in which event it would be necessary to enlarge greatly the latter reports. 49 Such a procedure, however, would probably result in such a burden on the banks that may rightfully provoke criticism. Schedule A in the present condition report form, calling for the liability of officers and directors, Schedule B, for excescive loans, and Schedule C, contingent liabilities, are of course more in the nature of information to the Comptroller for supervisory purposes instead of statistical as in the case of most of the remainder of the report. Two of these three schedules, namely A and B, aro referred to frequently,in the office. My opinion, therefore, is that the Committee on the Supervisory Functions of reports should recommend that the call report should continue to remain as one primarily for statistical purposes. (signed) Mr. Fox: W. k. Kano. Mr. Kane's report has answered my question in part. What are the supervisory aspects of condition statements which in your opinion should be emphasized? One was the cash position of the instituMr. Hospelhorn: tions reporting. We can certainly get that information. Other items are trends in deposits, borrowing power, if any, classification of securities but not the grade of securities. Mr. Ritchie has a few thoughts on this subject. In our State we have had a little additionUr. Ritchie: al information. One is the question of compliance by the bank to the requirement that examinations be made periodically by directors. In our State wo find it difficult to have examinations made twice a year on schedule and the question of examination by directors is quite important. We also like to know something about overdrafts, and past due paper. We have also included a schedule of excess loans. This schedule is more elaborate than in the present FDIC form. vle also have space for tho indirect liabilitios of officers and directors. These arc tho principal supervisory itcms. I amitted the question of capital structure Mr. Hospelhorn: in my consideration of the supervisory function of call reports. It gives a chance to compare charge-offs and adjustments. Mr. Tells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Are there other roactions? If not, we should be glad to hear from Mr. Linn's committee, the committee on function of reports as aids to individual bank operations. Mr. Linn: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON FUNCTION OF REPORTS AS AIDS TO INDIVIDUAI BANK OPERATIONS In considering the report of condition form, it is the consensus of opinion of this committee that the preparation of this form is of doubtful value to the management and that the subsequent use of the form as a function of management is of no value. In reaching this conclusion, the committee has ccnsiderea that no doubt all banks prepare, at more frequent and regular intervals, information in a form to suit the internal requirements and that the call report as such adds nothing of consequence thereto. With respect to the earning and dividend report, the committee suvests that the preparation of this report is of no value in banks having properly organized accounting departments. However, with banks not so organized, the mere fact that the report has to be prepared may lead to standardization of bank accounting principles. It is the opinion of this committee that the value of the report could be augmented by making certain changes. Specifically, we recommend that Item 6C (Treasury Department form #2129), Depreciation on banking house, furniture and fixtures, and in fact all fixed assets, bc treated as a current expense and included in Section 2 of the report. In addition to the recommendation of this committee with respect to depreciation on fixed assets, we further recommend a thorough study and clarification of the accounts commonly known as "reserve accounts" which generally include both accrued liabilities and appropriations of undivided profits. It is the further feeling of the committee th.kt the Governmental agencies have taken a forward step in the preparation of "manuals of instructions" on the preparation of reports and recommend a review of existing instructions. This committee has briefly reviewed the statistics prepared by the various Governmental agencies and several of the Federal Reserve Banks. It has in mind particularly the "Comparison of Member Bank Income and Expenses," prepared annually by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, and commends the compilation, as the use of these statistical comparisons can be of material value to all banks when prepared in this, or a similar form. 51 (signed) Geo. D. Grimm H. H. Griswold Raymond C. Marx K. M. Morrison Arthur J. Linn Chairm-n Mr. Wells: Mr. Smead: We have heard the report of the committee. Are there any questions, suggestions or criticisms? For your information, Mr. Linn, I wish to state that we have issued a "Manual of Instructions" which is similar to the manunl of the FDIC, only theirs is in a printed form. Mr. Wells: isms? Are there any further questions or criticNow is the time to make them. We will now have the report of the commitons of tee on general economic and statistical functi ready? report reports. Mr. Thomas, do you have the Mr. Thomas: Mr. Thomas: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I have a report which was rapidly dictatcommittee ed as a result of a general discussion. The the oarnconsidered only the condition report and not ed to recomings report. The committee is not prepar recommending simply is it ; report mend changes in the commdttee the by ered consid points which shoulii be ence. this confer of -Tork that is to continue the REPORT OF THE COVIIITTEE ON G7NERAL ECONOMIC AND ST_TISTICAL FUNCTIONS OF REPOTZTS In the limited time at its disposal the e some of the Committee has been able only to explor en of the minati (leter considerations involved in the for meeting ble types of reports of condition desira ic analysis. It the needs of statistical and econom had no opportunity to review problcms connected w*th earnings and condition reports, nor is It prepared to recommend any changes at prosent in tho system of reports. It recommends the creation of another committee to work out in detail recommendations for https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 52 adapting rcports of condition and earnings to the requirements of ecnnomic analysis, such recommendations to be submitted to a future meeting of this body. Considorations involved in adapting reto meeting tho requirements of stacondition ports of economical analysis: general and tistical A. B. General Considerations. 1. The development of thc call reports for the production of needed banking statistics has been retarded in the past by the attempt to have the call report serve not only the statistical function, but also the supervisory and public informing functions. 2. The present call reports provide considerable information of great value for analyzing economic developments. They are deficient in providing proper statistical data from the standpoint of scope, regularity, and frequency to permit a thorough analysis of changes in the volume, purpose, and use of bank credit and of bank deposits. 3. It may be considered whether the conflicts of function and the deficiencies from the standpoint of statistical analysis can best be removed by devising whore necess7ry separate reports to serve separate functions. Points to be Considered in Devising Proper Reports for Statistical Purposes. 1. Frequency of reports should depend upon the purposes to be served by reports required. Consideration should be given to tho feasibility of obtaining monthly statistical reports from a larger number of banks on a form similar to that obtained from weekly reporting member banks. 2. Regularity of reports. Considerable part of tho data must be reported at regular intervals. 3. Content. Tho content of the reports should vary according to the needs and frequency of tho reports. General considerations regarding contentin bo considered arc: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 53 a. :_dequacy of nresent weekly report of member banks in leading cities. b. Necessity for more detailed figures at frequent or infrequent intervals. c. The possibility of obtaining data on the amount and turnover of deposits should be investigated. The present classification of deposits appears to be inadequate for purposes of economic analysis. Consideration should be given to the following typos of classification: i. ii. iii. iv. v. d. Whether business or personal accounts. Type of business. Size of account. Typo of account - demand, time, etc. Bankers, balances. Collected and uncollected funds. The possibilities should be invostigated of splitting the item "duo from banks" into: DepOsit balances with other banks. ii. e. Checks in process of collection with other banks. Consideration should bo given to the possirobility of obtaining more adequate data garding the amount of loans outstanding and perhaps their turnover. Possible typos of classification to be investigated are: Opon market loans - probably satisfactory now. ii. Customer loans. (a) Economic function of borrower. (b) Purpose of loan. F. The possibility of obtaining more adequate data on interest and discount rates affecting customers of banks should be investigated. 54 i. ii. g. 4. Rates paid on deposits. Rates charged on customers' loans. Consideration should be given to the analysis of the disposition of criticized assets. Uniformity and standardization for the proper fulfillment of the statistical function. The reports should be uniform, all terms should be standardized, and tabulation accomplished under a uniform or centralized control. It is to be emphasized that the foregoing outline represents an ideal which is probably attainable only in part considering the present state of bank acccunting practice. It seems to this Committee that the important thing is to make a start toward these objectives. If a proper foundati7n of uniform practice can be established, the product even though sketchy and imperfect in the beginning, can be gradually improved as the banks show themselves capable of producing the information with reasonable expenditure of tine and effort. (signed) Woodlief Thomas J. E. Horbett George A. Eddy E. H. Brandon Donald S. Thompson Are there any general reactions or critic- Mr. Wells: isms? I am impressed with the number of points Mr. McMahon: brought out in that report. However, this will not condense any Of the information now sought but will augment the same. One of the purposes of this conference was to bring about uniformity by condensation. I doubt very much whether the committee could accomplish this objective and follow the suggestions of Mr. Thomas' committee. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 55 Mr. 'Neils: 1,7e owht to have a reaction from several of the bank representatives. Mr. Massie: I am of the opinion that the present forms place too great a burden upon the banks. I believe that if the committee would boil down all the forms to essential material and information, the banks would not object to furnishing such information. Mr. Will: We break down these items in our foreign department as to industries. The question is which ones are to be enumerated. If you break down loans and deposits by industry, where are you going to stop? If all banks used punch cards and were highly mechanized, this would be a simple matter. You are placing a big burden upon the banks. I doubt that it will be of any great value to those who will try to digest it. I wonder if there is not a tendency to conMr. Thompson: fuse brevity with simplicity. Detailed reports are simple if the items can be taken directly from the books. A short report may be very complex if it requires an unusual combination of items not ordinarily carried on the books. If it were known in advance that given types of data were to be required regularly and frequently and the banks wore to set up control accounts to yield such data, the reports might not involve so much work on the part of the banks, as is involved with the present infrequent reports. The committee should investigate the ideal requirements for economic analysis and try to work out a form that would meet those requirements insofar as possible and still not be unduly burdensome to the banks. Mr. Thomas: • The latter point which Mr. Thompson has made is one in which we are interested. We want to get the reaction of banks on specific points. This probably isn't the place to do it. We should point out to the committee that Mr. Morrison: it is highly desirable that nothing should be included in the ruport that will tempt banks to guess at a figure. If it is difficult to arrive at the right one, it will often put in a figure but it won't have meaning. Mr. 'jells: Very true of country banks. Mr. Smead: Yes. Mr. Thomas: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis For statistical purposes, if the banks are good guessers it is bettor than nothing. 7b now do the guessing. 56 Mr. Thomas' report contained a recommendaMr. McMahon: tion as regards the frequency of reports. I believe it was the object of the representatives to cut down call reports as much as possible. If we are to encourage the number of calls it would be better that another type of form be evolved which would more fully meet the ideas of the statistical divisions. That is the recommendation of this committee. Mr. Thomas: Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Aro there any other suggestions? If not, I want to suggest a change on the Resolutions Committee. Mr. Vass has asked to be relieved and it was suggested that Mr. Griswold be appointed. Mr. Bristow is here now also, so he can act on the committee too. So bn the Resolutions Committee, we will have: Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Linn, Chairman Bristow Griswold Hospelhorn Fox Kane Thomas They will have these problems to consider: (1) General principles upon which this conference can agree, such as: Should the report emphasize the supervisory function or the statistical function. (2) The public informing aspects and the problems of standardized accounts and accountinr, terms. (3) To what agencies should the report be submitted? (4) The problem of securing cooperation among the Federal agencies and the State agencies. (5) The proper machinery to be evolved which will translate these general objectives into specific proposals and specific forms. I am reminded of two things. One is the statement of an old Baptist preacher. He gave his Sunday-school children the following advice: "Young people, you bet'-er shoot pretty high, because you will fall low enough anyway." And so there is no reason why we shouldn't be bold in enumerating and enunicating our ideas. Also Justice Brandes has said: "If reason is to direct our economic and social actions, we must let our minds be bold." As 57 I understand it, the Resolutions Committee is to keep an open-door this afternoon. As soon as it is through luncheon it will work on these matters in this room. Mr. Linn is the chairman. Mr. Linn, how long do you think you need? INhen shall the general group reconvene to hear the resolutions? Mr. Linn: Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I would suggest 4 P.M. this afternoon. Then we shall now adjourn to meet again as a whole at 4 P.M. 58 General session. Mr. Wells called the conference to order at 4 P. M., May 23, 1935. Mr. Wells: Mr. Linn, as chairman of the Resolutions Committee, will present the report of tilt committee. Mr. Linn: Mr. Wells, this committee missed your personality and the enthusiasm which your personality has braught to this whole meeting. My personal.feeling was that you should have been chairman of this committee. I do not know who had the idea that I should be selected. I will now read the first resolution. BE IT RESOLVED that each of the groups represented here should appoint one member to represent that group and that such representatives constitute a permanent standing committee to cooperate and work together toward the development of the required forms. This standing committee is to have the power to delegate the performance of specific functions to sub-committees, the membership of which committees need not be confined to members of the permanent standing committee. BE IT RESOLVED FURTHER that Mr. H. B. Wells, Bank Supervisor and Supervisor of Research and Statistics, Department for Financial Institutions for the State of Indiana, be Chairman of that permanent standing committee. Mr. Wells: 4111114416 You have heard the first resolution. I should like to say in connection with the last part of it, and before I go on, that it occurs to me that it would be entirely logical to have someone in Washington serve as chairman. Indianapolis is a rather distant point. I frankly think that somebody here in Washington should be chairman of this committee. That should be a very serious considetation. How'is it planned, Mr. Linn, to have the Mr. McMahon: committee appointed? Is it by the suggestions of this conference, by the suggestions of the chairman, if he accepts, or by the appointive powers of the various graups? Mr. Linn: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis By the appointive powers of the various at this conference. represented groups I hate to leave you hanging up in the air, 59 Mr. Wells, but we still think it is a logical appointment. You spend a great deal of time here in Washington. Mr. Wells: That is just it, I spend too much time here. Mr. Linn: I move the resolution be adopted. Niro. Tucker: I second it. Mr. Wells: Mr. Fox, will you ad:for the question? Mr. Fox: The resolution is timaratiH.1 c'Lrric:d, Mr. Linn: BE IT RESOLV2D that the call reports for gupervisory purposes be as few as is possible and as is consistent with existing laws, and that the reports for economic rtnd statistical purposes, at the discretion of the Federal agencies, be on a monthly basis. Mr. Smead: The only question which I would raise in this connection is the montlily aspect and its overlapping with the present weekly reports. Mr. Linn: What would the probability be of monthly reports to the Federal Reserve Board for all banks, supplementing the weekly one from selected banks? Mr. Smead: It might supplement the weekly report in part. However, the Board could not function properly without some weekly data. Mr. Fox: In view of the fact that the present weekly service which is in effect in the 91 loading cities, is a purely voluntary affair, the present proposition wguld not interfere with the question at hand. Mr. Wells: 41111 10011. Mr. Smead: Mr. Wells: Mr. Linn: Do you want to guggest an amendment or do you simply want it clarified so that we will know what we are voting on? The latter. I don't believe that the committee had reference to the weekly reports. That is my feeling about it. I wguld su,ggest inserting the word "general!' Mr. Leonard: before the word "reports". Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis That might clarify the matter. 60 Mr. Fox: I would like to suggest that if the Federal Reserve Board feels that it is important, we insert a sentence which would eliminate the difficulty. Mr. Smead: As far as I am concerned, it does/lit make a great deal of difference except that the resolution as it now stands might give the impression that we were asking for unnecessary reports. I think it would be unfortunate to give that impression. Mr. Wells: Shall we have someone make a motion to insentence? a such sert Mr. Fox: I move the following amendment to the resolution: that there be inserted after the phrase "for economic and statistical purposes" the following: "exclusive of those weekly reports now being obtained by the Federal Reserve Board from banks in the 91 leading cities." The resolution as amended would read: BE IT RESOLVED that the call reports for supervisory purposes be as few as is possible and as is consistent with existing laws, and that the reports for economic and statistical purposes, exclusive of those weekly reports now being obtained by the Federal Reserve Board from the banks in 91 leading cities, and at the discretion of the Federal agencies, be on a monthly basis. Mr. Kane: Mr. Wells: Mr. Linn: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I second the motion. It has been moved and seconded that we amend this motion by that language. All those in favor of the resolution as amended will signify in the usual manner. The resolution, as amended, is car,-;,- , BE IT RESOLVED that it be the definitc sense of this conference that insofar as possible the supervisory aspects of the call be divided from the economic and statistical, and that this general plan of division between the supervisory and the economic and statistical aspects be carried out insofar as this is consistent with simplicity and uniformity. BE IT RESOLVED FURTHER that the existing call report be used as a basis for the supervisory forms and tht the emphasis be to delete that material from the present form, which is inserted solely for statistical purposes and which is not needed for supervisory purposes 61 Mr. Wells: Mr. Kane: This resolution in a large measure embodies what we have all discussed. Is there any discussion? I didn't understand that resolution. Was ng statisit understood that we should delete everythi tical from the present report? Does the resolution mean that the face of Mr. Morrison: "C" of the the call reports plus Schedules "A", "B" and is to that all Comptroller's call would be practically be maintained? Mr. Marx: Does it intend that we should Eo further s may than the "A", "B" and "C" Schedules as conition rable? arise or as gupervisory authorities may deem desi I don't know. Mr. Wells: Is there any answer to that question? Mr. Linn: Mr. Smead: g to The supervisory authorities are goin on cati indi an just ask for what they want. This is ect to of the opinion of this committee with resp future reports. opinion or I have not reached a definite to think ined incl conclusion on the matter, but I am d by cate indi that we could work it aut on the line that the monthly the resolution. It iD just possible Reserve Board or weekly service which the Federal ain all the may consider necessary would not cont wish to reld shou it statistical information that the case, the were that ceive at longer intervals. If rmation info iled deta logical place to .3et the more d does Boar The rt. repo would be in the regular call which hly, or mont ly week not wish to ask for anything, e of thos ling hand is not necessary for the proper that doesn't problems which are before it. But not call at longer necessarily mean that it would istical reports. This intervals for more extensive stat in separate schedtype of information could be included ree;ular call report. ules which cguld go along with the I was under the impression that the ReMr. Bristow: that the word "delete" solutions Committee later agreed t word substituted. eren diff a shoul(1. be eliminated and Mr. Kane: Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I thought it was the sense of the Reld be no desolutions Committee meeting that there shou letion. Read the resolution again. There is 62 nothing antagonistic in that statement. I think that the last part simply stands as a desirable objective if it could be obtained. Mr. Kane: I thirkwe are losing sight of the opinion that the call report is primarily for statistical purposes instead of supervisory purposes. The intent of the present resolution seems to eliminate anything that is purely statistical. Mr. Wells: What would be ygur suggestion, Mr. Kane? Mr. Kane: I suggest that the resolution read as follows: BE IT RESOLVED that it be the definite sense of this conference that insofar as possible the supervisory aspects of the call be divided from the economic and statistical, and that this general plan of division between the gupervisory and the economic and statistical aspects be carried out insofar as this is consistent with simplicity and uniformity. iformity." My plan wuuld be to stop at the word "unThat would eliminate this paragraph. BE IT RESOLVED FURTHER that the ex,isting call report be useft as a basis for the supervisory forms and that the emphasis be to delete that material from the present form, which is inserted solely for statistical purposes and which is not needed for supervisory purposes. Mr. Massie: In the last paragraph I am of the opinion we are overstepping aurselves. As long as we have uniformity what do we care whether it is statistical or supervisory? We are here for uniformity, not to tell these follows what to do. Mr. Wells: As chairman of the committee, Mr. Linn, will you take charge of the discussion at this point? Mr. Linn: Our first duty, as I saw it, was to try to put in a few brief paragraphs the opinions of this conference as expressed in the last two days. It is entirely possible that we haven't succeeded in this particular respect. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I think that I can speak for the balance of this committee when I say that the main objective in this particular resolution was to draw a distinction between those reports which may be used for gupervisory pur- 63 poses and the reports that are strictly statistical. NDne of us have any pride of authorship. I wonder if the thought of the committee might not be fully expressed by havirk; the seconcl paragraph of this resolution read as follows: BE IT RESOLVED FURTHER that the ex— the isting call report be used as a basis for supervisory forms. We cguld stop at this point. In other 7raph of this words, we have expressed in the first para,: stical stati the e divid to n resolution the inclinatio report. call the of t aspec y aspect from the supervisor r to answe the is stion augge It might be that the above our question. Yesterday, after hearing Mr. Folger and tion was used Mr. Kane point out that the report of condi the sup— unted disco lari;ely for statistical purposes, I nc-z; meeti ttee comi ervisory function. However, at gur tives senta the repre this afternoon, it was pointed gut by re— these on, opini of the State supervisors that in their my od it chang and ports had considerable re6ulatory value to no willi aspect to a lari7e extent. Personally, I am ution. this resol of on secti d secon e eliminate the entir I move that we eliminate the clause as Mr. Mr. Bristow: Linn suggests. Mr. Wells: Mr. Grimm: Mr. Smead: ed It is moved that the resoluion be amend as :raph parajl last by romovin,7 the last part of the suggested by Mr. Linn. I second the motion. n for I don't know whether I grasp the reaso the call report in the this elimination. Do you mean that se of supervision? future would be solely for the purpo l schedules in the stica stati That would mean that all . nated present report would be elimi is It is my tholOit that the last paragraph Mr. Hospelhorn: I merely carrying out the idea of the first paragraph. tion to it. don't see where there could be any objec Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I don't see why the second paragraph wouldn't clarification be all ri,,ht. It is simply an elaboration and r our bless— to showe want don't We of the first paraEraph. discussion other any thore Is ings upon the existing foru. of the half 7h go throw to upon this point? The motion is last paragraph and stop. 64 Mr. Linn: Would it be in order to ask for a discussion for the adoption of the first paragraph only and take up the resolution section by section? Mr. Wells: It wauld be in order if we could get the present motion off of the table. Mr. Bristow: tion. I withdraw my motion to amend the resolu- Mr. Grimm: I withdraw my second. Mr. Wells: We are now back to a consideration of the entire resolution as proposed by the Resolutions Committee. Mr. Linn: I would like to move that the discussion be confined to the first paragraph with the understanding that we proceed from paragraph to paragraph. I move the adoption of the first paragraph. Mr. Bristow: Mr. Wells: I second the motion. The question before the house is the adoption of the first paragraph of the resolution. It has been moved and seconded. It is carried. We can now proceed to the disaussion of the second paragraph. Mr. Fox: I move the adoption of the second paragraph. Mr. McMahon: I second the motion. Mr. Wells: It has been moved and seconded that the second paragraph be adopted. Is there any disaussion? Mr. Hospelhorn: I can't see what difference there is between the first and second paragraphs. • Mr. Folger: Withaut the last paragraph the resolution seems to be complete. The second one simply emphasizes it a little more. Certain parts of the present report are to be eliminated. The first part of the resolution suggests that they be eliminated as far as possible. Mr. Kane: Later on, I believe it is the intention of the Resolutions Committee to present for approval the ideas adopted this morning by the committee on the supervisory function of call reports. I was under the impression that the committee recommended that the call report should be a statistical report. Under the language of the second paragraph of the resolution before us isn't it to be a supervisory report? feeib https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 65 Mr. Wells: Mr. Kane: • Mr. Smead: . . Mr. Grimm: Mr. Wells: It isn't quite that, Mr. Kane. The monthly reports are to take care of the statistical aspects; the regular call reports as now used will serve the supervisory function and unnecessary statistical material will be deleted from the regular call report. The first paragraph of the resolution is second paragraph is intended to delete The all right. from the call report all statistical information. It seems to me that this is oontrary to the ideas of this conference. I may be wrong in my interpretation. Couldn't we insert the word luniform" before the phrase "call report" in the second paragraph? That wouldn't exclude any organization from calling for any data. I think it would be unfortunate to put in the call report a lot of statistical information that a good many States don't see fit to call for. The basis of our whole meeting is for a call report which we can stand upon and follow n through. If the FDIC wants some special informatio al on the June call, they can include that in a speci form to supplement and accompany the regular call. I feel that the first paragraph adequately covers the situation. Is there any further discussion? I gather from the discassion that the Mr. Leonard: for first paragraph recognizes that there is a need a t, exten statistical information and, to a certain the that need for supervisory data. Now it may be can be obstatisticians need more inforNation than ts. tained on the basis of the present call repor statisent frequ more the that This paragraph suggests the that and ately separ tical calls be considered suppresent system of call reports be used as the recall of use g makin ervisory device. The people month in certa e desir ports for statistical purposes nally origi as ly information which this resolution with drafted seems to preclude them from collibining for basis the the call report which is to serve as public information and, to some extent, for super vision. Shouldn't such a call report include certain statistics which would be in lieu of the monthly report for tAlt month? I think that it should be clarified whether the call report should come on the same date as the statistical information that the banks are to be called upon to furnish. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Would some member of your committee 66 answer Mr. Leonard? Mr. Fox: In answer to Mr. Leonard, I believe it was the feeling of the committee that for the purpose of attempting to get through a standardized call form, it would be necessary to get a medium which wuuld gupply all gupervisory yurposes. Also the medium which could bear the endorsement of this committee would have to have a possibility of being adopted by the whole conference. In other words, it is necessary that we separate the statistical from the gupervisory and that we concern aurselves with the supervisory and try to get that in standardized form. Mr. Wells: That follows Mr. Smead's guggestion and seems to coincide with his ideas. I don't know whether Mr. Bristow and Mr. Hospelhorn agree. The report must be a simplified one, if we are going to get it uniformly adopted, then let the aupplements come as they may. I find myself in disagreement with the enMr. Bristow: tire resolution. I believe that substantially the same form as now used shuuld be continued, otherwise we are going to have diffiaulty in selling it to the various states. I am extremely interested in bringing about uniformity. If you are going to bring about Ilniformity, it is going to have to be done with a call report something like uur present form. Here is another thought. I believe that in order that the gupervisory part of the report may be useful and to the point, it must be part and parcel of the statistical report. I don't object seriously to the idea that you might have to have two different forms -one to have the supervisory information desired and another to get the statistical information. In order to mdke the whole thin stand up, we are going to need a certain amount of statistical information. I am not trying to carry my point at all, but I am in favor of using the form now in use by the Comptroller's office and the Federal Reserve Board, and the Federal Deposit Inaurance Corporation. Because I thought that that was as near to my viewpoint as I could get, I agreed on the resolution as presented. The young lady who took it down, todk it as it was originally dictated and then someone guggested phraseology that just reversed it. We prectically agreed on what should go in the resolution. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis It seems we have a problem as to whether the language should be negative or positive. 67 May I ask if the first Mr. Morrison: conflict with the requirement? The be merely split into two pieces and made in the first paragraph that we paragraph would call form would no suggestion was delete. I dislike the order of the first paragraph, Mr. Bristow: but by having two parts to the same, I get substantially what I want. Mr. Wells: • The motion is for the adoption of the second paragraph. Is there further discussion? Is an amendment to the second paragraph in Mr. Hospelhorn: order? I move that the second paragraph be stricken out and the following substituted: BE IT RESOLVED FURTHER that the ex.r. isting call report be used as a basis for the adoption of a uniform report for supervisory purposes. Mr. Wells: You have heard this amendment in the form of a motion, is there a second? Mr. Linn: I second the motion. Mr. Wells: Is there any further discussion on this amendment? The proposed amendment seems to me to be Mr. Thompson: contrary to the sentiment of this body. As Mr. Smead pointed out a short time ago in connection with another motion to amend that paragraph this endorses the report in its present form. c' pio. a Mr. Hospelhorn: Change the wording from "basis" to "guide." Mr. Thompson: A distinction withgut a difference. Mr. Kane: Again I say the call report should not be used as a basis solely for gupervision. Mr. Wells: Mr. Kane, do you imply that we are doing anything like that? The committee went on record definitely Mr. Hospelhorn: of the call report was purely a function that the statistical one. Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Hospelhorn has a motion for an amendment to this second paragraph. There is also a second to this motion. Is there further discussion 68 is your pleasure? to amend the second paragraph? What a motion to Yes, 5; No, 8. Motion is rejected and . adopt the second paragraph is in order I don't understand your objection. Mr, Kane? Mr. Brandon: Mr. Kane: A Mr. Wells: was I have in mind another resolution which visory functions adopted by the committee on the super that the call report d mende recom it of the call report and visory pursuper not and l be primarily for statistica was statisthat ing anyth e poses. We were not to delet tical in purpose. This resolution seems to be exactly in keeping with that report. A short time ago we adopted a resolution Mr. Thompson: ble, of a favorable to the adoption, insofar as possi ses. l purpo stica system of monthly reports, for stati for need the t If that resolution were put into effec visory super for statistical data in the infrequent report not would purposes would be largely eliminated and we lose through the deletion of that material. Mr. Wells: what Is there further discussion? If not, of the second is your pleasure in regard to the adoption you paragraph? The motion is carried, 8 to 5. Will Linn? Mr. t, repor continue with the Committee's BE IT RESOLVED that it is the sense of the meeting that the various delegates here, representing the National Association of Super rs visors of State Banks, the American Banke Association, the Reserve Cities Bankers Associatdon, ahd tht - National Association of Bank Auditors and Comptrollers, recommend to their national associations that aggressive and ambitious educational campaigns be outlined for the purpose of bringing about greater standardization in accounts and accounting terms, and that such programs, for the snke of uniformity, be cleared through the permanent standing committee created aut of this conference. Mr. Linn: Do yau move the adoption of this resolu- Mr. Wells: tion? Mr. Linn: I so move. Mr. McMahon: I second the motion. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 69 Mr. Wells: The matter is now up for discussion. Are the question? The resolution as just for you ready offered by Mr. Linn is carried. Mr. Linn, will you continue to read your report? BE IT RESOLVED that this committee and the individual members in attendance desire to thank the staff of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation for their personal efforts extended in preparation of this meeting and for their many social courtesies extended incident thereto. Mr. Linn: Mr. Wells: This resolution is unanimously carried. Is there any other business to come before the meeting at this time? Mr. Smead: The chairman of this conference has done a wonderful job. I wish to place Mr. Smeadis idea in the Mr. Hospelhorn: form of a motion. I second the motion. Mr. McMahon: (Numerous seconds). The motion unanimously carried and a vote of thanks was given to Mr. Wells for his splended services as chairman of the conference. Do I understand that a Standing Committee Mr. Hospelhorn: ht back to has been appointed? Will the forms be broug the conference as a whole for adoption? Mr. Wells: This Standing Committee will function for the ideas as many weeks as it is necessary and will turn will which forms sted sugge of this meeting into concrete ps rence perha confe this be submitted to the members of the members has had in two or three weeks. After each of privacy of his an opportunity to study the form in the rs will be own office, we will reconvene and these matte up for adoption and approval. Those of us who have men outside of this Mr. Griswold: d we group whom we want to recommend, to whom shoul give this information? Mr. Wells: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis There should be someone here in Washington. It would be entirely in order for someone in the conference to move the appointment of a Secretary, located here in Washington. Would someone care to make such a motion? 70 Wouldn't Mr. Fox be willing to take that Mr. Bristow: position? I wish to make the motion that Mr. Fox be appointed Corresponding Secretary. Mr. Linn: I second the motion. Mr. Wells: The motion is carried. Mr. Fox: I want to ask Mr. Smcad and Mr. Folger if my appointment will be satisfactory to them. Mr. Smead and Mr. Folger: Mr. Wells: Yes. Mr. Fox, you have been appointed the Corresponding Secretary. Therefore, all committee appointmcnts will be forwarded to him in Washington. Is there any other business? Mr. Fox has an announcement to make about tonight's meeting. At The Mayflower, Italian Room, informal, Mr. Fox: 7:30. Mr. Wells: This has been a very splended meeting and conference. I heartily endorse the resolution regarding the courtesies extended to this conference by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. The time of our next meeting will be determined by the work of the small committee. It may take a Short time or it may go very Mr. Smead: slowly. Why don't we adjourn and meet again at the Mr. Bristow: call of the chairman? ic Mr. Fox: 4 I would suggest that the various groups that are to appoint representatives to this Standing Committee shuuld make that appointment immediately. I would suggest that we reconvene at the Mr. Bristow: and at the time the sutcommittee Secretary the of call Is report. that your pleasure? to is ready Mr. Smead: Not until after the forms have been sent to all members of the conference. hr. Wells: Any further business? I shall entertain a motion for adjournment. The conference is adjourned. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis A https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • . ••• • AGENDA PRELIMINARY COMMENCE ON CALL REPORTS AND EARNINGS AND DIVIDEMS REPORTS I. THE PROBLEM k A. II. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The improvement and standardization of bank report forms. 1. Is report standardization desirable? 2. Is report standardization possible 3. What functions shall standard reports be designed to serve? 4. How shall such reports be constructed to serve adequately these functions? GENERAL BACKGROUND OF THE PROBLE A. B. Material at hand. 1. Appendix "A". Summary of State Legal Requirements Governing Reports of Condition and Earnings and Dividends Reports. 2. Appendix "B". Summary of Items Appearing Upon Forms in Current Use, General description and aims of call reports and earnings and dividends reports now obtained. 1. Comptroller of the Currency -- natiqnal banks. 2. Federal Reserve Board -- State member banks. 3. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation -- State nonmember insured banks. • • 2 III. 4: State supervisors -- All State banks. 5. Securities and Exchange Commission -- stockholders. APPRAISAL OF PRESENT REPORTS FROM STANDPOINT OF FUNCTION AND PURPOSE A, Supervisory function of reports. 1. Basic requirements of reports for proper fulfillment of supervisory function and adequacy of present forms. (a) Frequency -- monthly, quarterly, semi-annually or otherwise. (b) Regularity -- should dates of call be regular or irregular for this function? (c) Content -- in general, what information should reports contain to be of use from standpoint of supervision? (d) Uniformity -- is uniformity and standardization desirable and possible for this function? 2. B. Suggested improvements in reports as regard proper fulfillment of supervisory function. Statistical function -- general economic analysis. 1. Basic requirements of reports for proper fulfillment of this function and adequacy cif present forms. • https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (a) Frequency -- daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, semi-annually or otherwise. (b) Regularity -- can this function be properly served by irregular call dates? https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • • (c) 3. Content -- comprehensiveness and selection of data necessary for statistical purposes -- possible inclusion of velocity and turnover data on loans and deposits. (d) Uniformity and standardization -- absolute necessity of uniformity in definition and selection of ite..is as regards this purpose. (e) Adaptability to tabulation. 0 C. Suggested improvements in reports from point mf view of this function. Call reports and general public -- public informing function. 1. Basic requirements of reports for proper fulfillment of this function and adequacy of present forms. (a) Frequency -- monthly, quarterly, semi-annually or otherwise. (b) Regularity -- should dates of published calls be irregular or regular? (c) Content -- in general, what type of inform, ation should be published? i. Comprehensiveness and selection of published data. Appearance and arrangement to facilitate understanding of material by public. question of publishing earnings and dividends report material. iv. Should published reports bring out valuation of assets? • • 4 (d) Uniformity -- is uniformity desirable and possible as reE;ards function as public informant. 2. D. Suggested improvements in reports from the point of view of this function. Function of reports as aid to individual bank operations. 1. Present uses of reports by individual banks. 2. Potential use and improvement in reports from point of view of individual banks. (a) Further use of general statistical data compiled from reports -- case material for study of typical banks by size graups and by geographic location. (b) Standardization of call reports and earnings and dividends reports and its effect upon the promotion of uniformity in accounting procedure. (c) Increased ease of preparation by banks and reduction of expense. IV. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis PROBLEM OF STANDARDIZATION AND ITS AC COIvI.PL ISHIEST A. Need of standardization -- is standardization desirable? 1. Conflict of full development of reports as statistical device with use as aid to bank supervisors. (a) Advisability of uniform reports for statistical purposes and separate dissimilar reports to meet requirements as regulatory device. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • • 5 (b) Relationship of examination report to call report from viewpoint of suprvisory authorities -- to wh-lt extent can examination report serve completely the function of supervision? 9 B. C. Need of standardization for general economic analysis. Legal obstacles confronting stardization of call. 1. CreTtion of standing committee representing the American Bankers Association, Reserve City Bankers Association, the National Association of Bank Auditors, and the National Association of Supervisors of State Banks to push enablinP; legislation where necessary. 2. Use of supplementary riders to fulfill specific requirements. Lack of uniformity in bank accounting systems. 1. Possible use of enlarged "Manunl of Instructions" as an educational device -- definitions and significance of all items on call reports and earnings and dividends reports. 2. question of uniform terminology in accounts. 3. Possibility of promotion work in these fields by American Bankers Association and National Association of Bank Auditors. • D. IPP V. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 Controversial technical problems which may hinder work of standardization. 1. Elimination of all per contra and contingent items from balance sheet of call report. 2. Segregations of capital account and its relation to preparation of earnings and dividends reports. CREATION OF PERMANENT STANDING COLUITHE REPRESENTING ALL INTERESTED GROUPS AND AGENCIES TO REVIEW PROBLEMS WHICH MAY ARISE IN CONNECTION WITH REFORT STANDARDIZATION AND ITS WORKABILITY AT LATER DATE. 111 7. APPENDIX A SUMMARY OF STATE LEGAL REQUIREM:e2TTS GOVEZNING CONSTRUCTION OF CONDITION AND OF EARNINGS AND DIVIDENDS OF REPORTS State . Alabama Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New HampsIlire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washinzton West Virginia Wisconsin https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Minimum number of reports required (See Note "A") Earnings Directors' Condition 2 3 2 3 3 3 4 3 4 3 4 3 (c) 4 5* 4 (c) 3 5* 3 4 3 3 3 a 7 0 5* 2 5* 4 3 3 4 4 ,r.' 2 5 4 3 2 (c) 4 1 3 3 4 3 (a) (a) 1 2 2 (a) 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 1 3 1 3 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 (b) 0 4, n c., 4 • s (d) (a) o ,, 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 ' (c) 2 2 --1 1 1 2 1 o 4, 1 (a) 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 Legal requirements governing form construction (See Note "B") 2 2 1 2 1 s --2, ' 1 , ___. (c) 2 \ 3' 2 n 4., 2 3 2 2 3 2 1 2 3 2 2 1 2 2 2 3 2 1 2 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 8 APPEIDIX A NOTES A. NUMBER OF REPORTS REQUIRED. * (a) (b) (c) (d) B. Indicates maximum requirement. Earnings information obtained from state examiners' reports only. Requires audit by CPA rather than directors! examination. At discretion of supervisor. Earnings information obtained from directorst examination. LEGAL REQUIREMENTS GOVERNING FORM CONSZRUCTION (Have been coded as follows) 1. Now using Federal form or a form strictly comparable. 2. Could use Federal form without any change in statutes. (In most of these cases construction is left to discretion of supervisor) 3. Specific statutory requirements at variance with Federal forms. These requirements are listed below: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Arizona: Analysis of other real estate owned. California: Reports must be departmentalized. Indiana: Uninvested trust funds; shares of and loans to affiliates. Kentucky: Overdraft analysis; analysis of other real estate owned; list of depository banks. Massachusetts: Deposits payable in more than tc:n and less than thirty days not considered demand; requires display of trust funds and of loans to individuals and corporations. Nevada: Entire form written into the statute. New York: Preferred deposits. Rhode Island: Deposits payable in more than ten and less than thirty days not considered demand; reports must be departmentalized; analysis of trust funds; list of securities owned and analysis of their values. • 9 APPENDIX B SUMMARY OF ITEMS APPEARING UPON CONDITION REPORT FORMS IN CURAENT USE This list results from a survey made of forms used by supervisors of each State, by the Comptroller of the Currency, the Federal Reserve Board, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in obtaining reports of condition from banks under their jurisdiction on June 30, 1934 or the nearest call date thereto. Related items are grouped in the order of their frequency of appearance. ASSETS - GENERAL FREQ,MICY Real Estate owned other than bankin,: house Furniture and Fixtures Banking House Total Other Assets - itemized Customers' Liability Account of Acceptance Other Real Estate owned: itemized schedule Total Cash Resources Customers' Liability under letters of credit Pledged to secure Liabilities (1) Departmentalized Interest earned but not collected Expense in excess of Profits Pledged to secure Liabilities (II) Trust (segregated from Banking) Claims and Other Resources Trust - Bonds left for safekeeping Redemption Fund with U. S. Treasurer Other Funds with U. S. Treasurer ; First Mortcage Certificates Trust - Mortgage Notes securinc Trust - Trust Securities Suspense Account Profit and Loss Moratorium Illegal Advances to Trusts Mortgages sold with recourse to this b-Ink (per contra) Reconciliation of items affecting since last report Interest in Depositors' Guaranty Fund Assessment, Depositors' Guaranty ?and Bonds guaranteed (per contra) https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 52 52 52 52 50 24 22 22 11 10 10 9 8 6 4 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 • • 10 BANKS FREQUENCY Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due Due from Trust Companies, Banks and Bankers from Banks: itemized schedule of from Banks: approved reserve agents from Banks: other than approved reserve agents from Banks: subject to immediate withdrawal from Banks: not aubject to immediate withdrawal from Banks: in United States from Banks: in foreign countries from Banks: (a) state (b) national from Banks: Public Funds from Banks: in central reserve cities - elsewhere to Trust Companies, banks and bankers to Banks: itemized schedule of of Banks: subject to immediate withdrawal to Banks: not subject to immediate withdrawal to Banks: in foreign countries to Banks: in United States to Banks: reserve agents to Banks: other than reserve agents to Banks:(exclusive of bank deposits) to Banks: in this state - - elsewhere to Banks: (a) state (b) national to Banks: due to branches to Banks: due the Bank of North Dakota to Banks: in liquidation all other banks 52 32 24 24 13 10 6 5 2 1 1 52 19 12 5 5 3 3 1 1 BILLS PAYABLII-RMISCaUUTS Borrowed money Bills Payable Bills Payable: itemized schedule of Bills Payable: with Federal Reserve Bank Bills Payable: Certificates of Dep. issued to other banks for money borrowed other banks and trust colapanies with Bills Payable: Bills Payable: advances received on other instruments given for the purpose of borrowing money Bills Payable: other Bills Payable: with collateral without collateral Bills Payable: with Reconstruction Finance Corporation Bills Payable: highest rate of interest paid on Rediscounts: Rediscounts: itemized schedule of Rediscounts: with Federal Reserve Bank Rediscounts: with other banks and trust companies Rediscounts: with Reconstruction Finance Corporation Rediscounts: highest rate of interest paid on Rediscounts: other Rediscounts! secured by obli7ations of the U. S. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 51 27 17 14 12 10 10 9 8 5 50 25 15 11 8 6 5 • • 11 CAPITAL ITEMS FREQUENCY Capital stock: amount paid up Capital stock: preferred Capital stock: common Capital stock: notes and debentures Capital stock: par value Capital stock: number of shares Capital stock: number of stockholders Capital stock: authorized Surplus Surplus: appropriated for exemption of common stock from assessment; unappropriated Undivided profits Undivided profits: schedule reconciliation of Undivided profits: schedule reconciliation by means of including expenses, int., etc. as assets Undivided profits and reserves Reserves for contingencies Reserves for dividends Retirement fund for preferred stock or capital notes and debentures Reserve fer dividend payable in common stock Stockholders statutory liability reserve fund 52 20 20 12 9 7 2 1 52 1 52 8 4 1 28 10 7 3 2 CASI1 Cash: in vault (on hand) Cash: exchanges for Clearing House Cash: checks on other banks in same place Cash: outside checks Cash: checks on other banks Cash: on deposit Cash: checks on this bank Cash items Cash items: other Cash items: in transit Cash items: itemized schedule of Cash items: Post Office money orders and county warrants Cash over Cash short 52 42 28 23 8 3 3 42 41 14 13 1 5 5 D7POSITS Interbank (see also "Banks") Certified checks Cashier's checks Individual deposits subject to check https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 50 50 50 47 • • 12 FREQUENCY Savings, evidenced by pass books Certificates of deposit Certificates of deposit due in 30 days or less Total Public Funds Postal savings Dividends unpaid Christmas savings and other clubs Of U. S. Government Total time Total demand Trust fands Interest paid on Other demand Open accounts Secured Unseaured Public funds obtained by mec,.ns of extra schedule Other time Payment of which has been deferred boyond the custo.lary period by agreement with depositors Amount of upon which interest is paid Letters of credit FRB face breal:down Time certificates representing money borrowed For payment of coupons, etc. Certificates of deposit; commercial deposits Preferred; not preferred Due New York Savings Banks; due Jew York Statr, Savings and Loan Associations; Credit Unions and Land Bank; other deposits due as executor, administrator, guardian, trustee, committee or depositary Due Clearing House Due Savings Department Waived or restricted Attached accounts Interest department Industrial investment certificates Upon which more than 4% interest is paid Amount of interest paid on since last report Payable after notice (exclusive of certain types) Payable on demand (exclusive of certain catagories) Ratio of total deposits to total cash resources Ratio of unsecured deposits to total cash resource.; 46 45 44 36 31 30 28 19 18 14 14 14 14 14 11 11 9 9 8 5 3 3 3 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 FEDEliAL RESERVE BANKS Due from Federal Reserve Banks Due from Federal Reserve Bank - transit account Due to Federal Resc:rve Bank Obligations on industrial advances transferred to the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 28 12 9 • • 13 LIABILITIES FRE;UENCY Other liabilities - itemized Reserve for interest, taxes and other expenses accrued and unpaid Acceptances exeauted for customers Contingent liabilities Secured by pledge of assets Agreements to repurchase securities sold Cash letters of credit and travelers' checks outstancling Bills of exchange or drafts sold with endorsement of this bank (per contra) Acceptances executed by other banks for account Jf this bank Acceptances executed to furnish Dollar Exchange Dividends unpaid On letters of credit and acceptances Interest collected, not earned Mortgage bonds and participation certificates autstanding Prior liens on ORE owned Sinking fund for corporations Encumbrance on real estate Ciraulation - national bank notes outstanding Time drafts issued Debenture bonds outstanding Due clearing house Bank overdrafts Collections not remitted Accruals (per contra) Vouchers, manager's and dividend checks outstanding Moratorium Accepted bills of exchange payable abroad Trust guaranty fund 50 29 15 13 13 12 12 11 9 9 8 8 7 3 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 LOANS AND_DISCOUNTS Loans and discounts Loans on real estate Loans to officers, directors and relatea ihterests Exceeding the legal limit Overdue On securities All other loans To banks and bankers Commercial paper bought in open market Acceptances of other banks, payable in U. S. owned by this bank Unsecured Demand https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 52 40 40 34 26 25 21 17 17 16 15 13 • • 14 FREZTarCY Reporting bank's own acceptances purchased or discounted Loans and Mortgaes etc. separated on face To Broker and Dealers in Securities Notes, bills, acceptances, and other instruments evidencing loans, payable in foreign countries A/1 other collateral loaas Secured Time ed To officers, and directors and related intcrested—secur Current To banks and trust companies; on securities—all other Real estate (on farm land) Real estate (on other real estate) Paper with two or more names To officers, dir3ctors ana related interests Unsecured loans: to stockholders On collateral Single name paper Secured by chattel mortgages Doubtful Secured by U. S. Government obligations (memo) Commodity or Llerchandise loans Eligible for rediscount with Federal Reserve Bank Modernization and construction loans made unler provisions of National Housing Act To Municipalities, etc. Items in transit To affiliated companies Industrial Average rate of interest rcceived on loans & discounts On real estate; in home state; elsewhere To farmers On seaurities: listed — not listed Excess of mtg. notes seauring 1st mtg. certificates Advances to estates and trusts Held for account of customers Gross and net New York call loans Overdrafts Overdrafts: Age analysis Overdrafts: Secured Overdrafts: Unsecured Overarafts: itemized schedule of 13 10 9 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 6 6 1 6 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 50 25 14 14 4 MISCELLANEOUS ;UESTIONS Number of accounts evidenced by savings pass books Number of depositors Special questionnaire for further analysis Dividends paid , https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 27 19 13 11 • • 15 FREQ,I=CY Amount loaned on real estate mtgs. by states Assets charged off since last report Directors/ meetings held since last report Trade association membership Are all liabilities carried on books Bonds to secure surplus Salaried employees (annual request) Basis of operation (cash or accrial) Change of officers since last report Required legal Average for past 30 days On date of call For taxes and interest For bond depreciation U. S. bonds and C. of I. pledged as For depreciation, building ana fixtures For losses Other reserves With state treasurer 3 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 17 17 16 14 7 5 2 2 2 SECITRITIES Obligations of the U. S. government Other bonds, stocks and securities States, counties, municipalities & other political gubdivisions Stoc:: of Federal Reserve Bara Railroads (bonds) Public utilities (bonds) Appreciation or depreciatinn Securities borrowed Other domestic corporations (bonds) Itemized list of Stock of other domestic corporations Foreign securities Foreign central governments Certificates of indebtedness Warrants Other foreign securities Stocks U. S. pledged and not pledged Treasury notes Other U. S. bonds Federal land banks Joint stock land banks Stock of banks and banking corporations Federal Farm iviortgagc Corporation Home Owners, Loan Corporation (fully guaranteed) Other bonds, stocks and securities (itemizeil sched.) https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 47 38 30 22 21 21 20 20 16 14 13 12 12 11 11 11 11 9 9 a 8 8 8 7 7 • • 16 PREWENCY A In default Treasury bills Reconstruction Finance Corporation Obligations of political subdivisions of home state Intermediate crCdt banks Territorial and insular possessions of the U. S. Real estate corporations (bends) Premium on Other Liberty Loan bends Home Owners' Loan Corporation (guaranteed as to interest only) Foreign provincial, state and municipal ,Toverrments Stock of Peal estate corporations Sold unlor repurchase agreen,ent ObliP:ations of the U. S. governmont - bonds First Liberty Loan 3L-% bonds 1932-47 Treasury bonds Collateral trust anl other corporation notes Other bonds (than U. S. government) Detailed list called only annually Common stock Preferrea stock Stock of railroals Listed U. S. government pledgel to secure circulation Guaranteed by the U. S. government Stock of affiliated companies Trust investments Mort,:;age bonds Canaaian FDIC stock Deposited with state treasurer for stockhol.ters' res. fund To secure public funds, inclu,ling state deposits Acquirerl for settle7aent of debt Sinking fund investments Stock of company held for distribution Public - private In escrow Pled,17ed to seaure savins deposits Tax certificates Sheriff's certificates of sale Of U. S. any state or political subdivision thereof Trust Guaranty Fund seclirities https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 7 6 6 6 6 6 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 75TH CONGRESS 1sT SESSION IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES JUNE 15 (Calendar day June 23), 1937 Mr. Robinson introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Select Committee on Government Organization A BILL o provide for reorganizing agencies of the Government, extending the classified civil service, establishing a General Auditing Office and a Department of Welfare, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- 2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 1 3 TITLE I—REORGANIZATION 4 DECLARATION OF STANDARD 5 SECTION 1. The President shall from time to time in- 6 vestigate the organization of the various agencies of the 7 Government, and shall determine what changes therein are 8 necessary to accomplish any of the following purposes: 9 (a) To reduce expenditures to the fullest extent con- 10 sistent with the efficient operation of the Government; https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2 1 (b) To increase the efficiency of the operations of the 2 Government to the fullest extent practicable within the 3 revenues; 4 (c) To group, coordinate, consolidate, reorganize, and 5 segregate agencies and functions of the Government, or any 6 part thereof, as nearly as may be, accord.ing to major 7 purposes; 8 (d) To reduce the number of such agencies by re- 9 grouping or consolidating those having similar functions 10 under a single head, and by abolishing such agencies or 11 such functions, or any part thereof, as may not be necessary 12 for the efficient conduct of the Government; 13 (e) To eliminate overlapping and duplication of effort; .1.4 and 15 (f) To segregate routine administrative and executive 16 functitins from regulatory functions. POWER OF PRESIDENT 17 18 SEC. 2. (a) Whenever the President, after investi- 19 gation, shall find and declare that any transfer, retransfor, 20 regrouping, coordination, consolidation, reorganization, 21 segregation, or abolition of the whole or any part of 22 any agency, or the functions thereof, is necessary to 23 accomplish any of the purposes set forth in section 1 of 24 this title, he may by Executive order subject to the limi25 tations hereinafter nrovided: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 3 1 (1) Transfer or retransfer the whole or any part 2 of any agency, or the functions thereof, to the juris- 3 diction and control of any other agency; or 4 (2) Regroup, coordinate, consolidate, reorganize, 5 or segregate the whole or any part of any agency, or 6 the functions thereof; or (3) Abolish the whole or any part of any agency, 7 or the functions thereof; and 8 9 (4) Prescribe the name and the functions of any 10 agency affected by any such Executive order, and the 11 title, powers, and duties of its executive head. 12 (b) Nothing in subsection (a) shall be construed to 13 authorize the President (1) to abolish any executive depart14 ment or independent establishment, the municipal govern15 ment of the District of Columbia, the Board of Governors 16 of the Federal Reserve System, or the General Auditirig 17 Office, (2) to transfer to any other agency all of the fune18 tions of any executive department or of such municipal gov- 19 ernrnent, (3) to abolish or transfer to any other agency 20 any of the functions of the Board of Governors of the Federal 21 Reserve System or the General Auditing Office, (4) to 22 abolish any of the functions of any independent establish23 ment, or to transfer to any other agency any of the functions 24 of any independent establishment except as provided in sub- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 1 section (c), (5) to abolish or transfer to any other agency 2 any of the functions exercised by the Engineer Corps of the 3 Army or the Mississippi River Commission in administer4 ing any laws relating to rivers and harbors or flood control, 5 or (6) to create or establish any new agency to exercise any 6 functions which are not expressly authorized by law in force 7 on the date of enactment of this Act. 8 (c) The President is authorized by Executive order to 9 transfer to an executive department any of the routine admin- 10 istrative and executive functions of any independent estab11 lishment which are common to other agencies of the 12 Government, such as the preparation of estimates of appro13 priations, the appointment of personnel and maintenance 14 of personnel records, the procurement of material, supplies 15 and equipment, the accounting for public funds, the rental 16 of quarters, and related matters. 17 (d) Any Executive order issued by the President under 18 this title shall make provision for the transfer or other dis19 position of the records, property (including office equip20 ment), personnel, and unexpended balances of appropria21 tions of the agency or agencies affected by such Executive 22 order: Provided, That the transfer of personnel shall be 23 without change in classification or compensation, except that 24 this requirement shall not operate after the end of the fiscal https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 5 1 year during which the transfer is made to prevent the ad2 justment of classification or compensation to conform to the 3 duties to which such transferred personnel may be assigned. 4 The appropriations or portions of appropriations not so 5 transferred or disposed of shall not be used for any purpose 6 but shall be impounded and returned to the Treasury. 7 (e) In the case of the abolition of any agency or func- 8 tion pursuant to this title, the Executive order providing for 9 such abolition shall also make provision for winding up the 10 affairs of the agency abolished or the affairs of the agency 11 with respect to the function abolished, as the case may be. 12 (f) The President is authorized to make such rules and 13 regulations as may be necessary to carry out his functions 14 under this title. SAVING PROVISIONS 15 16 SEC. 3. (a) All orders, rules, regulations, permits, or 17 other privileges made, issued, or granted by or in respect of 18 any agency or function transferred to any other agency the time of 19 under the provisions of this title, and in effect at extent as if 20 the transfer, shall -continue in effect to the same eded, or 21 such transfer had not occurred, until modified, supers 22 repealed. lawfully com(I)) No suit, action, or other proceeding of any agency or other 24 menced by or against the head his official capacity or in in States, United the of officer 25 23 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 relation to the discharge of his official duties, shall abate 2 by reason of any transfer of functions from one officer or 3 agency to another under the provisions of this title, but l the court, on motion or supplemental petition filed at a,ny 5 time within twelve months after such transfer takes effect, 6 showing a necessity for a survival of such suit, action, or 7 other proceeding to obtain a settlement of the questions 8 involved, may allow the same to be maintained by or against 9 the head of the agency or other officer of the United States 10 to whom the functions are transferred. 11 (c) All laws relating to any agency or function trans- 12 ferred to any other agency under the provisions of this title, 13 shall, insofar as such laws are not inapplicable, remain. in 14 full force and effect, and shall be administered by the ht4d 15 of the agency to -which the transfer is made. 16 17 EFFECTIVE DATE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER SE(i. 4. Whenever the President issues all Executive 18 order under the provisions of this title, such Executive 19 order shall be submitted to the Congress while in ses9ion 20 and shall not become effective until after the expiration 21 of sixty calendar days after such transmission, unless Con22 gress shall by law provide for an earlier effective date of 23 such Executive order: Provided, That if Congress shall 24 adjourn before the expiration of sixty calendar days from 25 the date of such transmission such Executive order shall https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 7 1 not become effective until after the expiration of sixty calen2 dar days from the opening day of the next succeeding regular 3 or special session. DEFINITIONS 4, SEC. 5. When used in this Act, unless the context other- 5 6 wise requires- 7 (1) The term "agency" means any executive de- establishment, independent 8 partment, independent 9 agency, commission, board, bureau, service, °the, 10 administration, authority, division, or activity in the 11 executive branch of the Government, whether in ttif 12 District of Columbia or elsewhere, and shall include 13 the municipal government of the District of Columbini 14 the Botanic Garden, the Library of Congress, tkie 15 Library Building and Grounds, and the Government 16 Printing Office, and any corporation a majority of thg 17 stock of which is owned by the United States and pf 18 which no member of the board of directors is elected 19 or appointed by private interests. 20 (2) The term "independent establishment" in. 21 eludes the legislative courts and the United States 22 Board of Tax Appeals, the Federal Communications 23 Commission, the Federal Power Commission, the 24 Federal Trade Commission, the Interstate Commerce 25 Commission, the National Bituminous Coal Commisr https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 8 1 sion, the National Labor Relations Board, the Securi- 2 ties and Exchange Commission, and the United States 3 Maritime Commission. 4 TTTLE II—CIVIL SERVICE AND CLASSIFICATION 5 CIVIL SERVICE ADMINISTRATION 6 SEC. 201. (a) There is hereby established in the execu- 7 tive branch of the Government an organization to be known 8 as the Civil Service Administration (hereinafter referred to 9 as the "Administration"), at the head of which shall be a 10 Civil Service Administrator (hereinafter referred to as the 11 "Administrator"), who shall be appointed by the President, 12 by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, for a term 13 of fifteen years and shall receive a salary at the rate of 14 $10,000 per annum. The Administrator shall be selected 15 without regard to any political affiliations, shall be a person 16 specially qualified for the office of Administrator by reason 17 of his executive and administrative qualifications, with par18 ticular reference to his actual experience in, or his knowledge 19 of, accepted practices in respect to the functions vested in 20 that office by law, and may be removed by the President 21 for inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office. (b) The Administrator shall appoint a Deputy Civil 22 23 Service Administrator, subject to the civil-service laws, and 24 his salary shall be fixed in accordance with the Classification 2,5 Act of 1923, as amended. The Deputy Civil Service Ad- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 9 1 ministrator shall perform such functions as the A dministrator 2 may prescribe, and shall act as Administrator in the absence 3 of the Administrator or in the event of a vacancy in that 4 office. 5 (e) The United States Civil Service Commission and 6 the offices of Civil Service Commissioners are abolished, and 7 all functions vested in such Commission are hereby vested in 8 the Administration. The records, property (including office 9 equipment), personnel, and unexpended balances of appro- 10 priations of such Commission are hereby transferred to the 11 Administration. 12 (d) The Administrator is authorized to delegate to any 13 officer or employee of the Administration any functions 14 vested in the Administrator or the Administration by law, 15 and to make such rules and regulations as may be necessary 16 to carry out any of such functions. 17 (e) The Administrator shall cause a seal of office to be 18 made for the Administration, of such device as the Presi19 dent shall approve, and judicial notice shall be taken of 20 such seal. 21 SEC. 202. (a) In addition to the functions vested in the 22 Administrator by section 201 of this title the Administrator 23 shall prepare and recommend to the President plans for the 24 development and maintenance of a career service in the 25 Federal Government. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 10 1 (b) The Administrator is further authorized to- 2 (1) Plan, establish, supervise and coordinate em- 3 ployee training programs and similar activities of the 4 various agencies of the Government, and make avail- 5 able to such agencies any employee training facilities at 6 his disposal; (2) Obtain information, through the Administra- 8 tion, or in cooperation with other agencies, organiza- 9 tions, or groups, relating to personnel standards, prac- 10 tices, or policies in other governmental jurisdictions or 11 in private industry, and make such information avail- 12 able to the various agencies of the Government; 13 (3) Cooperate with the public personnel agencies 14 of States, Territories, and possessions of the United 15 States (including the Philippine Islands), and political 16 subdivisions thereof, and the District of Columbia, in 17 the adoption, development, or extension of the merit 18 system in their respective jurisdictions, and upon the 19 request of any such agency render advisory or con- 20 sultative personnel service or establish eligible registers 21 for such agency or establish or assist in the establish- 22 ment of joint eligible registers; 23 (4) At the direction of the President, or upon 24 the request of the head of any agency of the Govern- 25 ment, cooperate or assist in the installation or develop- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 11 1 ment of personnel standards, practices, or policies for 2 any agency of the Government, or review and investi- 3 gate personnel standards, practices, or policies of such 4 agency, and report thereon to the President or the 5 officer making the request. Any agency receiving any 6 cooperation or assistance under this or the preceding 7 partgraph may be required to reimburse the Admin- 8 istration for all necessary expenses incurred in connec- 9 tion therewith, and "the payments representing such 10 reimbursements shall be deposited as refunds to the 11 appropriations from which such expenses were origi- 12 nally paid, instead of being covered into the Treasury 13 as miscellaneous receipts; 14 (5) Request persons not in the service of the 15 Federal Government who are experts in some aspect 16 of personnel administration to attend conferences with 17 representa tives of the Administration or to consult or 18 advise with them, in the District of Columbia or else- 19 where, and reimburse such experts for their subsistence 20 and other expenses at a rate of not to exceed $25 per 21 day for time spent in attending and traveling to and 22 from such conferences, or in consulting or advising with 23 such representatives, plus the actual cost of trans- 24 portation. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • 12 1 (6) Purchase manuscripts from private persons, 2 corporations, or other organizations, or meet the costs 3 of special studies made by them, at the request of, 4 or in cooperation with, the Administration; and 5 (7) Pay in advance membership fees or dues in 6 personnel associations, or in organizations which issue 7 publications to members only or to members at a lower 8 price than to others. PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTMENTS 9 SEC. 203. (a) Hereafter any office or position in any 10 11 agency of the Government to which an appointment is 12 authorized to be made by the President alone shall be filled 13 by appointment without term by the head of the executive 14 department, independent establishment, or independent 15 agency in or under the jurisdiction of which such office or 16 position is located, except (1) any office or position which 17 the President finds is policy-determining in character, and 18 (2) any office or position of head of any bureau, division, 19 service or other similar agency which is in or under the 20 jurisdiction or control of and is directly responsible to the 21 head of an executive department, independent establishment 22 or independent agency. 23 (b) Hereafter the President, by and with the advice 24 and consent of the Senate, shall make appointments (1) to 25 fill any vacancy in any office or position of head of any https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 13 1 bureau, division, service, or other similar agency of the type 2 referred to in clause (2) of subsection (a) of this section, 3 and (2) to fill any vacancy in any office or position which 4 the President finds is Tolicy-determining in character. 5 6 EXTENSION OF CLASSIFIED CIVIL SERVICE SEC. 204. Upon the expiration of one year after the 7 enactment of this Act, all offices and positions in the 8 various agencies of the Government shall be covered into the 9 classified civil service, except offices and positions (1) in 10 emergency agencies which are temporary in character, 11 (2) in any colporation a majority of the stock of which 12 is owned by the United States and of which no meniber 13 of the board of directors is elected or appointed by private 14 interests, (3) which the President finds are Tolicy-determin15 ing in character, (4) which are not subject to the civil- 16 service laws on the date of enactment of this Act and the 17 heads of which are hereafter to be appointed as provided in 18 clause (1) of section 203 (b), (5) appointments to which 19 on the date of enactment of this Act are required to be made 20 by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the 21 Senate, or (6) expressly excepted from the civil service 22 laws by this Act: Provided, That the President is author23 ized by Executive order at any time within such year to 24 cover into the classified civil service any office or position 25 not excepted under the provisions of this section. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 14 SEC. 205. The President is authorized by Executive 2 order to cover into the classified civil service any office or position in any corporation a majority of the stook 4 of which is owned by the United States and of which no 5 member of the board of directors is elected or appointed 6 by private interests if the President finds that such office 7 or position is not policy-determining in character: Pro8 vided, That any action taken under this section with respect 9 to any office or position in any such corporation shall not 10 be inconsistent with the laws under which such corporation 11 was organized or with the charter or articles of incorporation 12 of such corporation. 13 SEC. 206. The incumbent of any office or position which 14 is covered into the classified civil service under the provi15 sions of this title shall not thereby acquire a classified civil16 service status, except (1) upon recommendation by the head 17 of the agency concerned within one year after such office or 18 position has been covered into the classified civil service, and 19 certification within such period by such head to the Admin20 istrator that such incumbent has served with merit for not 21 less than six months prior to the date of enactment of this 22 Act in the case of the inctnnbent of an office or position covt: 23 ered into the classified civil service under the provisions of 24 section 204 of this title, or six months prior to the date of 25 the appropriate Executive order in the case of the incumbent https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 15 1 of an office or position covered into the classified civil service 2 under the provisions of section 205 of this title, and (2) 3 upon passing such suitable noncompetitive examination as 4 the Administrator may prescribe. 5 SEC. 207. (a) Whenever the President finds that an 6 office or position is not policy-determining in character, he 7 is authorized by Executive order to cover such office or posi- 8 tion into the classified civil service: Provided, That the in9 cumbent of any such office or position which has been previ- 10 ously excepted from the classified civil service as policy11 determining in character shall not acquire a classified civil12 service status except by appointment as the result of an 13 open competitive examination. 14 (b) Whenever the President finds that an office or po- 15 sition in the classified civil service is policy-determining in 16 character, or that a confidential reltitionship exists between 17 the head of any executive department, independent establish- 18 ment, or independent agency, and any person holding any 19 office or position under the immediate supervision of such 20 head, he is authorized by Executive order to except such 21 office or position from the classified civil service. 22 (e) The provisions of this title relating to the covering 23 into and excepting from the classified civil service of offices 24 and positions, and relating to the method of appointment 25 to offices and positions, shall be applicable to any office https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 16 1 or -position authorized under this Act, or under any subse2 quent Act, unless the Congress specifically provides 3 otherwise. EXTENSION OF CLASSIFICATION ACT 4 SEC. 208. (a) Subject to the limitations hereinafter 5 6 provided, whenever the President, after such classification 7 and compensation surveys or investigations as he may direct 8 the Administrator to undertake, and after consideration of 9 the Administrator's resulting reports and recommendations, 10 shall find that an extension of the provisions of the Classifi11 cation Act of 1923, as amended, to any office or position 12 in any agency of the Government not at the time subject 13 to such provisions is necessary to the more efficient opera14 tion of the Government, he may by Executive order extend 15 the provisions of such Act to such office or position: Pro16 vided, That any action taken under this subsection with 17 respect to any office or position in any corporation a 18 majority of the stock of which is owned by the United 19 States and of which no member of the board of directors is 20 elected or appointed by private interests shall not be 21 inconsistent with the laws under which such corporation of 22 was organized or with the charter or articles incorporation 23 of such corporation. 24 (b) Whenever the President, upon report and recom- that one or more 25 mendation by the Administrator, shall find https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 17 1 offices or positions to which such Act as amended and ex2 tended is applicable may not fairly and reasonably be allo3 cated to any of the classification services or grades defined 4 in the compensation schedules of such Act, he may by 5 Executive order prescribe and define such additional classi6 fication services and grades thereof as he may deem neces- 7 sary, and he shall define and fix the ranges of compensation 8 for the gra,des of such services within the limits of such Act 9 so that they shall be comparable, as nearly as may be, with 10 the grades defined in such Act for offices or positions that 11 are comparable as to duties, responsibilities, qualifications 12 required, and other conditions of employment. (c) Whenever the President, upon report and recom- 13 14 mendation by the Administrator, shall find that the rates 15 of the compensation schedules of such Act are inadequate 16 for any office or position to which such Act as amended 17 and extended is applicable, he may by Executive order 18 establish necessary schedules of differentials in the rates 19 prescribed in such compensation schedules, but the differen- 20 tial in the compensation of any such office or position shall 21 not exceed 25 per centum of the minimum rate of the grade 22 to which such office or position is allocated under such com- of this 23 pensation schedules: Provided, That the provisions or positions 24 subsection shall be applicable only to offices 25 which are located at stations that are isolated, remote, or https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis S. 2700---2 18 1 inaccessible when compared with stations at which offices 2 or positions of the same character are usually located, or 3 which involve physical hardships or hazards that are ex4 cessive when compared with those usually involved in offices 5 or p.ositions of the same character, or which are located 6 outside the States of the United States and the District of 7 Columbia: Provided further, That if the Administrator finds 8 that the factor of isolation, hardship, hazard, or foreign 9 service is uniformly applicable to each office or position in 10 any given class of offices or positions, the differential pro11 vided for in this subsection shall not apply to any office or 12 position in such class. 13 (d) Except as Congress may otherwise provide by law, 14 the power granted to the President by this section shall not 15 apply to the following16 (1) Offices or positions in the Postal Service the 17 compensation of which is fixed under the Act of Con- 18 gress, approved February 28, 1925 (43 Stat. 1033), as 19 amended; 20 (2) Offices or positions of teachers, librarians, 21 school-attendance officers, and employees of the com- 22 munity-center department under the Board of Educa- 23 tion of the District of Columbia, the compensation of 24 which is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved 25 June 4, 1924 (43 Stat. 367), as amended; https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 19 1 (3) Offices or positions in the Metropolitan Police, 2 in the Fire Department of the District of Columbia, and 3 in the TJnited States Park Police, the compensation of 4 which is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved July 5 1, 1930 (46 Stat. 839); 6 (4) Commissioned officers and enlisted personnel in 7 the military and naval services and the Coast Guard, 8 and commissioned officers in the Public Health Service 9 and the Coast and Geodetic Survey, the compensation 10 of which is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved 11 June 10, 1922 (42 Stat. 625), as amended; 12 (5) Offices or positions in the Government Print- 13 ing Office the compensation of which is fixed under the 14 Act of Congress, approved June 7, 1924 (43 Stat. 15 658); 16 (6) Offices or positions of Foreign Service officers 17 in the Foreign Service of the United States the coin- 18 pensation of which is fixed under the Act of Congress, 19 approved May ?4, 1924 (43 Stat. 140), as amended; 20 (7) Offices or positions of clerks in the Foreign 21 Service of the United States the compensation of which 22 is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved February 23 23, 1931 (46 Stat. 1207); 24 (8) Offices or positions of commercial attaches, 25 assistant comniercial attaches, trade commissioners, and https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 20 1 assistant trade commissioners in the Foreign Commerce 2 Service of the Department of Commerce, the compen- 3 sation of which is fixed under the Act of Congress, 4 approved March 3, 1927 (44 Stat. 1394), as amended; 5 (9) Offices or positions of verifiers-openers-packers, 6 clerks, guards, inspectors, station inspectors and laborers, 7 in the Customs Service of the Treasury Department the 8 compensation of which is fixed under the Act of Con- 9 gress, approved May 29, 1928 (45 Stat. 955), 10 amended; 11 (10) Offices or positions of inspectors in the Immi- 12 gration and Naturalization Service of the Department 13 of Labor the compensation of which is fixed under the 14 Act of Congress, approved May 29, 1928 (45 Stat. 15 954), as amended; 16 (11) Offices or positions the duties of which are 17 to serve as an officer or member of the crew of a vessel; 18 and 19 (12) Offices or positions the duties of which are 20 to perform the work of an apprentice, helper, or 21 journeyman in a recognized trade or craft, or other 22 skilled mechanical craft, or the work of an unskilled, 23 semiskilled, or skilled laborer; except that whenever 24 such offices or positions involve work in the regular 25 custody, operation, or maintenance of a Government https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 21 1 building, or other Government property, or work which 2 is subordinate, incidental, or preparatory to work of 3 a professional, scientific, or technical character, the 4 President, upon a finding that the characteristics and 5 working conditions of such offices or positions render 6 them substantially the same as comparable offices or 7 positions in the District of Columbia included within 8 the Classification Act of 1923, as amended, may by 9 Executive order extend the provisions of such Act to 10 include them. 11 SEc. 209. The President is authorized, after suitable 12 investigation by the Administrator which shall include con13 sultation with representatives of the heads of the executive 14 departments, independent establishments, or independent 15 agencies in or under the jurisdiction of which the offices or 16 positions hereinafter designated are located, and upon find- 17 ing that such action is necessary to the more efficient opera18 tion of the Government, to exclude, by Executive order, 19 from the provisions of the Classification A ct of 1923, as 20 amended and extended21 (1) Offices or positions the work of which is 22 financed jointly by the United States and a State, Terri- 23 tory, or possession of the United States (including the 24 Philippine Islands), or political subdivision thereof, or 25 cooperating persons or organizations outside the service https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 22 1 of the Federal Government, the pay of which is fixed 2 under a cooperative agreement with the United States; 3 (2) Offices or positions none or only part of the 4 compensation of which is paid from funds of the United 5 States; (3) Offices or positions filled by inmates, patients, 6 7 students, or beneficiaries in Government institutions; 8 (4) Offices or positions outside the States of the 9 United States and the District of Columbia filled by 10 natives of Territories or possessions of the United States 11 (including the Philippine Islands) or foreign nationals; 12 (5) Emergency or seasonal offices or positions in 13 the field service, or other field offices or positions the 14 duties of which are of purely temporary duration or 15 which are required only for brief periods at intervals; 16 and 17 (6) Offices or positions filled by persons employed 18 locally on a fee, contract, or piecework basis who may 19 lawfully perform their duties concurrently with their 20 private profession, business, or other employment, and 21 whose duties require only a portion of their time, where 22 't is impracticable to ascertain or anticipate the propor- 23 tion of time devoted to the service of the Federal 24 G overnment. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 23 1 SEc. 210. Whenever an extension of the Classification 2 Act of 1923, as amended, becomes effective under this title 3 with respect to any office or position4 (1) The allocation of such office or position to the 5 appropriate service, grade, and class shall be made as 6 provided in section 4 of such Act and in accordance with 7 a uniform procedure to be prescribed by the Adminis- 8 trator; and 9 (2) The initial compensation of the incumbent of 10 such office or position shall be fixed in accordance with 11 section 6 of such Act; except that if such incumbent is 12 receiving compensation in excess of the maximum rate 13 prescribed for the appropriate grade, no change shall 14 be made in his compensation so long as he continues to 15 occupy the same office or position, but the office or po- 16 sition shall be correctly allocated and whenever it be- 17 comes vacant the compensation attached thereto shall 18 be brought within the proper compensation schedule. 19 SEC. 211. Nothing herein contained shall be construed 20 to prevent the promotion of an officer or employee from an 21 office or position in one class to a vacant office or position in a. 22 higher class at any time in accordance with civil-service laws, 23 and when so promoted the officer or employee shall receive 24 compensation according to the schedule established for the 25 class to https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis which he is promoted. 24 TITLE III—ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING 2 3 TRANSFER OF ACCOWING FUNCTIONS SEC. 301. (a) The General Accounting Office and the 4 offices of Comptroller General and Assistant Comptroller 5 General ill*C hereby abolished, and all functions vested in the 6 General Accounting Office, the Comptroller General, and 7 the Assistant Comptroller General by law in force on the 8 date of enactment of this Act, except functions vested in the 9 General Auditing Office by this Act, are hereby vested in 10 the Bureau of the Budget and the Director of such Bureau. 11 Nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize the 12 Bureau of the Budget to exercise any functions vested in 13 the General Auditing Office by this Act or to direct the 14 manner in which such functions shall be exercised. 15 (b) The Attorney General of the United States shall 16 render an opinion with respect to the jurisdiction of the 17 Director of the Bureau of the Budget in connection with the 18 settlement of any public account, upon request therefor bv 19 the said Director or the head of the executive department, 20 independent establishment, or independent agency concerned, 21 and any such opinion of the Attorney General shall be final 22 and conclusive upon the said Director and all other officers 23 and agencies of the Government. 24 (c) The records, property (including office equipment), 25 personnel, and unexpended balances of appropriations of https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 25 1 the General Accounting Office shall be transferred to the 2 General Auditing Office and the Bureau of the Budget upon 3 the effective date of this section as the President shall 4 prescribe by Executive order. The transfer of such personnel 5 shall be without change in classification or compensation, 6 except that this requirement shall not operate after the end 7 of the fiscal year during which the transfer is made to prevent 8 the adjustment of classification or compensation to conform 9 to the duties to which such transferred personnel may be . 10 assigned. 11 (d) The Director of the Bureau of the Budget, with 12 the approval of the President, shall make such rules and 13 regulations as may be necessary to carry out the functions 14 vested in him by this section. 15 16 GENERAL AUDITING OFFICE SEC. 302. (a) There is hereby established a General 17 Auditing Office which shall be an agency of the Congress 18 and independent of the executive branch of the Govern- 19 ment and shall be under the direction and control of an 20 Auditor General. 21 (b) The Auditor General and an Assistant Auditor 22 General shall be appointed by the President, by and with 23 the advice an I consent of the Senate. The Auditor 24 General shall re'eive a salary at the rate of $10,000 per 25 annum, and the salary of the Assistant Auditor General https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 26 1 shall be fixed in accordance with the Classification Act 2 of 1923, as amended. The Assistant Auditor General shall 3 perform such functions as the Auditor General may pre4 scribe, and shall act as Auditor General in the absence of 5 the Auditor General or in the event of a vacancy in that 6 office. 7 (c) Except as hereinafter provided in this subsection, 8 the Auditor General and the Assistant Auditor General 9 shall hold office for fifteen years. The Auditor General 10 shall not be eligible for reappointment. The Auditor Genii eral or the Assistant Auditor General may be removed 12 at any time by joint resolution of the Congress after notice 13 and hearing, when, in the judgment of the Congress, the 14 Auditor General or the Assistant Auditor General has be15 come permanently incapacitated or has been inefficient, or 16 guilty of neglect of duty, or of malfeasance in office, or 17 of any felony or conduct involving moral turpitude, and 18 for no other cause and, in no other manner except by im19 peachment. Any Auditor General or Assistant Auditor 20 General removed in the manner herein provided shall be 21 ineligible for reappointment to that office. When an 22 Auditor General or Assistant Auditor General attains the 23 age of seventy years, he shall be retired from his office. 24 SEc. 303. (a) The General Auditing Office shall 25 promptly make an audit of all public accounts after payment https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 27 1 but prior to settlement by the Director of the Bureau of the 2 Budget. Each such audit shall be conducted as nearly as 3 practicable in the vicinity of disbursing offices of the United 4 States in the District of Columbia and elsewhere. 5 (b) The accountable officers of the Government shall 6 promptly transmit their accounts, together with all supporting 7 documents, to the appropriate representatives of the General 8 Auditing Office for audit. Whenever such representatives 9 take exception to any item in any account so transmitted, 10 notice thereof shall be immediately given to the accountable 11 officer concerned, to the Director of the Bureau of the Budget, 12 and to the Auditor General, together with a statement of the 13 reasons for such exception. The said Director shall take all 14 such exceptions into consideration in selling public accounts. 15 (c) The Director of the Bureau of the Budget shall 16 furnish promptly to the General Auditing Office copies of 17 all certificates issued by him in settlement of public accounts, 18 and the General Auditing Office shall examine the copies of 19 such certificates of settlement. The Auditor General shall 20 report promptly to the said Director and to the Congress all ‘,. public accounts deemed by him to have been improperly 22 settled by the said Director; but no sueh report shall be made 2`,-3 to the Congress with respect to any disagreement between 24 the General Auditing Office and the said Director until the 25 expiration of thirty days after the said Director has been https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 28 1 notified of such disagreement, and no such report shall be 2 made to the Congress if the said Director revises his decision 3 in accordance with the views of the General Auditing Office. (d) The Auditor General shall also report to the 4 5 Director of the Bureau of the Budget and to the Congress 6 any expenditure of public funds which the General Auditing 7 Office deems to have been unwisely or improvidently made 8 by or under the authority of the head of any agency of the 9 Government. (e) The Auditor General shall make a complete annual 10 11 report to the Congress not later than March 1 of each year 12 with respect to the audit made by the General Auditing 13 Office of the receipts and expenditures of the Government 14 during the preceding fiscal year. Such report shall be made 15 as nearly as practicable in accordance with accepted princi16 ples of auditing, and shall contain all necessary memoranda, 17 and tables, together with an appropriate certificate of audit 18 and such comments as may be pertinent to the subject matter 19 of the audit. 20 (f) The Auditor General shall make such investigations 21 and reports as shall be requested by either House of Congress, 22 or by the Joint Committee on Public Accounts, or by any 23 other committee of either House having jurisdiction over 24 expenditures, appropriations, or revenue; and the Auditor https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 29 1 General shall furnish any such committee such aid and infor2 ination as it may request. (g) All reports required by this section to be made 3 4 to the Congress shall be made to the Joint Committee on 5 Public Accounts when the Congress is not in session. SEC. 304. The Auditor General, or any officer or em- 6 7 ployee of the General Auditing Office when duly authorized 8 by him, shall, to the exteht necessary to perform the func- 9 tions vested in the General Auditing Office, have access 10 to and the right to examine any books, documents, papers, 11 or records of the Bureau of the Budget or of any other 12 agency of the Government; but nothing in this section shall 13 be construed to repeal or modify the provisions of section 291 14 of the Revised Statutes (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 31, sec. 15 107),or any other provisions of law expressly restricting the 16 audit of expenditures made by the President, or by the head 17 of any agency of the Government. 18 SEC. 305. (a) The Auditor General is authorized, sub- 19 ject to the civil-service laws, to appoint such officers and 20 employees as he deems necessary to enable the General 21 Auditing Office to exercise the functions vested in it by law; 22 and the compensation of all such officers and employees shall 23 be fixed in accordance with the Classification A ct of 1923, 24 as amended. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 30 1 (b) The Auditor General is authorized to delegate to 2 any officer or employee of the General Auditing Office any 3 functions vested in the General Auditing Office by law. (c) The Auditor General is authorized to adopt an 4 5 official seal for the General Auditing Office, and judicial 6 notice shall be taken of such seal. 7 (d) The Auditor General is authorized to prescribe 8 such rules and regulations as may be necessary to carry out 9 the functions vested in the General Auditing Office by this 10 title. 11 SEC. 306. The General Auditing Office shall not exer- 12 cise any functions except those vested in it by this title, and 13 nothing contained in this title shall be construed to author14 ize the General Auditing Office to revise the settlements of 15 public accounts made by the Bureau of the Budget, or to 16 direct the manner in which the functions vested in the Bureau 17 of the Budget by this title shall be exercised. JOINT COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS 18 19 SEC. 307. (a) There is hereby established a joint 20 congressional committee to be known as the Joint Committee 21 on Public Accounts (hereinafter referred to as the "joint 22 committee"), to be composed of twenty-four members as 23 follows: 24 Four members, two from the majority party and two 25 from the minority party, who are members of and are chosen https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 31 1 by each of the following committees: In the Senate, the 2 Committee on Expenditures in the Executive Departments, 3 the Committee on Appropriations, and the Committee on 4 Finance; and in the House of Representatives, the Commit5 tee on Expenditures in the Executive Departments, the Com6 mittee on Appropriations, and the Committee on Ways and 7 Means. 8 (b) No person shall' continue to serve as a member 9 of the joint committee after he has ceased to be a member 10 of the committee by which he was chosen; except that any 11 such member chosen by any such Committee of the House 12 of Representatives who has been re-elected to the House 13 of Representatives may continue to serve as a member of 14 the joint committee notwithstanding the expiration of the 15 Congress. 16 (c) A vacancy in the joint committee shall not affect 17 the power 'of the remaining members. to execute the func18 tions of the joint committee, and shall be filled in the same 19 manner as the original selection; except that in case of a 20 vacancy during an adjournment or recess of the Congress 21 for a period of more than two weeks, the members of the 22 joint committee who are members of the committee entitled 23 to fill such vacancy may designate a member of such 24 committee to serve until his successor is chosen by such 25 committee. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 32 1 (d) The joint committee shall elect a chairman and a 2 vice chairman from among the members of the joint com3 mittee, and shall have the power to appoint and fix the 4 compensation of a olerk and such experts and clerical, sten5 ographic, and other assistants, as it deems advisable. 6 (e) The members of the joint committee shall serve 7 without compensation in addition to that received for their 8 services as Members of Congress; but they shall be reim9 bursed for travel, subsistence, and other necessary expenses 10 incurred by them in the exercise of the functions vested 11 in the joint committee, other than expenses in connection 12 with meetings of the joint committee held in the District 13 of Columbia during such times as the Congress is in session. 14 (f) It shall be the duty of the joint committee to ex- 15 amine and study all reports submitted to the Congress and 16 to the joint committee by the Auditor General as provided 17 in section 303. The joint committee shall submit to the 18 Senate and the House as promptly as possible such findings 19 and recommendations with respect to any such reports as 20 the joint committee deems advisable. 21 (g) The joint committee, or any subcommittee thereof, 22 shall have power to hold hearings and to sit and act at such 23 places and times, to require by subpena or otherwise the 24 attendance of such witnesses and the production of such 25 books, papers, and documents, to administer such oaths, to https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 33 1 take such testimony, to have such printing and binding done, 2 and to make such expenditures, as it deems advisable. Sub3 penas shall be issued under the signature of the chairman 4 of said joint committee, and shall be served by any person 5 designated by hirn. The provisions of sections 102 to 104, 6 inclusive, of the Revised Statutes (relating to examination 7 and testimony of witnesses) shall apply with respect to any 8 person who is summoned as a witness under authority of 9 this subsection. 10 (h) Amounts appropriated for the expenses of the joint 11 committee shall be disbursed one-half by the Secretary of • 12 the Senate and one-half by the clerk of the House of 13 Representatives. 14 TITLE IV—DEPARTMENTS OF WELFARE ANts 15 CONSERVATION.AND NATIONAL RESOURCE-S 16 PLANNING BOARD DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE 17 SEc. 401. (a) There shall be at fhe seat of govern- 18 19 ment an executive department to be known as the Depart20 ment of Welfare, and a Secretary of Welfare, who shall be 21 the head thereof, and shall be appointed by the President, 22 by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, and shall 23 have a tenure of office and salary like those of the heads of 24 the other executive departments. Section 158 of the Re- 25 vised Statutes, as amended (TT. S. C., 1934 ed., title 5, S. 2700-3 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 34 1 sec. 1), is amended to include such department and the 2 provisions of title IV of the Revised Statutes, including all 3 Acts amendatory and supplementary thereto, shall be ap- 4 plicable to such department. 5 (b) There shall be in the Department of Welfare an 6 Undersecretary of Welfare, who shall be appointed by the 7 President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, 8 and two Assistant Secretaries of Welfare and a Solicitor, 9 who shall be appointed by the Secretary of Welfare, all of 10 hom shall exercise such functions as may be prescribed 11 by the Secretary of Welfare or required by law. The 12 Undersecretary and the Solicitor shall each receive a salary 13 of $10,000 per annum, and the compensation of the 14 Assistant Secretaries shall be fixed in accordance with the 15 Classification Act of 1923, as amended. 16 (c) The Secretary of Welfare shall promote the public 17 health, safety, and sanitation; the protection of the con- 18 sumer; the ca-use of education; the relief of unemployment 19 and of the hardship and suffering caused thereby; the relief 20 of the needy and distressed; the assistance of the aged; and 21 the relief and vocational rehabilitation of the physically 22 disabled; and in general shall coordinate and promote public 23 health, education, and welfare activities. 24 (d) The Secretary of Welfare shall cause a seal of 25 office to be made for the Department of Welfare, of sucb https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 35 1 device as the President shall approve, and judicial notice 2 shall be taken of such seal. 3 (e) The Secretary of Welfare shall annually, at the 4 close of each fiscal year, make a report in writing to the 5 Congress, giving an account of all money received antl 6 expended by the Department of Welfare and describing the 7 work done by that Department. He shall also from time 8 to time make such special investigations and reports as he 9 may deem necessary, or as he may be required to make 10 by the President, or by either House of Congress. 11 12 DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION SEC. 402. The Department of the Interior shall here- 13 after be known as the "Department of Conservation", and 14 the Secretary of the Interior shall be known as the "Secre15 tary of Conservation", and all the provisions of titles IV 16 and XI of the Revised Statutes, including all Acts amendir 17 tory and supplementary thereto, and all other Acts referring 18 to the Department of the Interior, the Secretary of the 19 Interior, or any other officers or employees of that Depart20 ment, are amended accordingly. 21 22 NATIONAL RESOURCES PLANNING BOARD 4 !: SEC. 403. (a) There is hereby established in the execw. 23 dye branch of the Government a National Resources Plare 24 ning Board (hereinafter referred to as the "Board") which: 25 shall be composed of five members to be appointed by the: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 36 1 President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. 2 One of the members of the Board shall be designated by the 3 President as chairman, and one of such members shall be 4 designated by the President as vice chairman. The vice 5 chairman shall act as chairman in the absence of the chair6 man or in the event of a vacancy in that office. The mem7 bers of the Board shall be compensated at the rate of $50 8 per day for time spent in attending and traveling to and 9 from meetings, or in otherwise exercising the functions of 10 the Board, plus the actual cost of transportation: Provided, 11 That in no case shall a member be entitled to receive com12 pensation for more than thirty days' services in any two 13 consecutive months. 14 (b) The Board shall cause a seal of office to be made for 15 such Board, of such device as the President shall approve, 16 and judicial notice shall be taken of such seal. 17 (c) The Board shall deterrnine the rules of its own pro- 18 ceedings, and a majority of its members in office shall con19 stitute a quorum for the transaction of business, but the Board 20 may function notwithstanding vacancies. 21 SEC. 404. The Board is authorized to- 22 (1) Investigate, examine, study, analyze, assemble, 23 and coordinate and periodically to review and revise 24 basic information and materials appropriate to plans 25 or planning policies for the development and utiliza- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 37 1 tion of the resources of the Nation, both natural and 2 human, and on the basis thereof, to initiate and pro- 3 pose in an advisory capacity such plans and planning 4 policies; 5 (2) To obtain data and reports from, to cooperate 6 and participate in the work of, and to consult with, 7 any agencies of the Federal Government and of any 8 State, Territory, or • possession of the United States 9 (including the Philippine Islands), or political sub- 10 divisions thereof, as well as any public planning or 11 research agencies and institutions; and 12 (3) Prepare and submit studies, reports, and 13 recommendations upon matters within its jurisdiction 14 under this Act for presentation to the President or upon 15 the request of the President. 16 SEC. 405. (a) The Board is authorized, without regard 17 to the civil-service laws, to appoint a director, and, subject 18 to the civil-service laws, to appoint such other officers and 19 employees as may be necessary to carry out its functions. 20 The compensation of the director and such other officers and 21 employees shall be fixed in accordance with the Classification 22 Act of 1923, as amended. 23 (b) The Board shall prepare and submit annually to 24 the President a report setting forth and summarizing its work 25 during the preceding year, and shall include therein such https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 38 1 information, data, and recommendations concerning matters 9 within its jurisdiction as the Board may deem advisable. (c) The Board is authorized to delegate to the director 3 4 or to any other officer or employee of the Board any func5 tions vested in the Board by law. (d) The Board is authorized to prescribe such rules 6 7 and regulations as may be necessary to carry out its functions. SEC. 406. The National Resources Committee, estab- 8 lished by Executive Order Numbered 7065 of June 7, 1935, 10 is hereby abolished. TITLE V—MISCELLANEOUS 11 SEC. 501. Subject to such regulations as the President 12 13 may from time to time prescribe,- the President and the heads 14 of the Executive departments, independent establishments 15 and independent agencies of the Government, for the pur16 poses of consultation, investigation and research in connection 17 with the exercise of functions vested in them by law, or, in 18 the case of the heads of such agencies, for the purposes of con- 19 ducting such investigations or research as may be required 20 of them by the President, are respectively authorized, with21 out regard to the provisions of other laws applicable to the 22 employment and compensation of officers and employees of 23 the -United States, to appoint and fix the compensation of 24 such experts and consultants for temporary periods as may 25 be necessary. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 39 1 SEC. 502. The President is authorized to appoint six 2 A dministrative Assistants without regard to the provisions 3 of other laws applicable to the employment of officers and 4 employees of the United States, and to fix the compensation 5 of each of them at not to exceed $10,000 per annum. Said 6 Administrative Assistants shall perform such duties as the 7 President may prescribe. 8 SEC. 503. There is' hereby authorized to be appro- 9 priated out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise 10 appropriated such sums as may be necessary to carry out 11 the provisions of this Act. 12 SEC. 504. If any provision of this A ct, or the applica- 13 tion thereof to any person or circumstance, is held invalid, 14 the remainder of the Act, and the application of such pro15 vision to other persons or circumstances, shall not be affected 16 thereby. 17 SEC. 505. (a) Subsection (c) of section 201 shall 18 become effective when the first Civil Service Administrator 19 appointed under section 201 takes office. 20 (b) Sections 301 to 306, inclusive, and section 401, 21 shall become effective upon the expiration of one hundred 22 and eighty days after the date of enactment of this Act 23 unless the President shall by Executive order provide for 24 an earlier effective date. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 0 -11 .ill o z cz g a) ,-g ✓ri ,,, ;.-4 c,i C4 cl.) 1 -4crz ho C) g '71-1 .g = g ct . •o c.) a) cn ,,,- 0 $.0 ci ..- •F-1 cn g 0 LI) '5 4-1 w a) ;4•1 = a) .4.. C.) p ri) Ci) p--1 e*Yi CI) != cl) C4) O C.) C.) •-•-1 • ••••••• E:60 C/2 -4— , a.) rs:Z LCJ SEC. 506. This Act a) ,-cz CY'D 7ILF "TiisTcusGsiRoNEssl COPY''r"1"Y 1 Se 2700 A BILL To provide for reorganizing agencies of the Government, extending the classified civil service, establishing a General Auditing Office and a Department of Welfare, and for other purposes. By Air. ROBINSON JUNE 15 (Calendar day June 23), 1937 Head twice and referred to the Select Committee on Government Organization https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis F-4 CZ co) GNI first appointed tion Act of 1937". aear .40.4001. \ Calendar No. 1286 75TH CONGRESS Isl.SESSION S. 2970 [Report No. 1236] IN THE SENATE OF TIIE UNITED STA TES AUGUST 16, 1937 Mr. BYRNES introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Select Committee on Government Organization AUGUST 16 (calendar day. AUGUST 17), 1937 Reported by Mr. BYRNES, without amendment A BILL To provide for reorganizing agencies of the Government, extending. the classified civil service, establishing a General Auditing Office and a Department of Welfare, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- 2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 TITLE I—REORGANIZATION 4 DECLARATION OF STANDARD 5 SECTION 1. The President shall investigate the organi- zation of the \various agencies of the Government, and shall 7 determine what changes therein are necessary to accomplish 8 a,ny of the following purposes: 9 (a) To reduce expenditures to the fullest extent con- 10 sistent with the efficient operation of the Government; https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2 (b) To increase the efficiency of the operations of the 2 Government to the fullest extent practicable within the 3 revenues; (c) To group, coordinate, consolidate, reorganize, and 4 5 segregate agencies and functions of the Government, or any 6 part thereof, as nearly as may be, according to major 7 purposes; 8 (d) To reduce the number of such agencies by re- 9 grouping or consolidating those having similar functions 10 under a single head, and by abolishing such agencies or 11 such functions, or any part thereof, as may not be necessary 12 for the efficient conduct of the Government; and 13 (e) To eliminate overlapping and duplication of effort. POWER OF PRESIDENT 14 15 Sm. 2. (a) Whenever the President, after investi- 16 gation, shall find and declare that any transfer, retransfer, 17 regrouping, coordination, consolidation, reorganization, 18 segregation, or abolition of the whole or any part of 19 any agency, or the functions thereof, is necessary to 1 of 20 accomplish any of the purposes set forth in section 21 this title, he may by Executive order subject to the limi- 22 tations hereinafter provided: 23 (1) Transfer or retransfer the whole or any part 24 of any agency, or the functions thereof, to the juris- 25 diction and control of any other agency; or https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 3 (2) Regroup, coordinate,. con.solidate, reorganize, 2 or segregate the whole or any part of any agency, or 3 the functions thereof; or (3) Abolish the whole or any part of any agency, 4 or the functions thereof; and 5 6 (4) Prescribe the name and the functions of any 7 agency affected by any such Executive order, and the 8 title, powers, and duties of its executive head. 9 (b) Nothing in subsection (a) shall be construed to 10 authorize the President (1) to abolish any executive depart11 ment or independent establishment, the municipal govern- 12 ment of the District of Columbia, the Board of Governors 13 of the Federal Reserve System, or the General Auditing 14 Office; (2) to transfer to any other agency all of the func- 15 tions of any executive department; (3) to abolish or transfer 16 to any other agency any of Ilig_functions of the municipal 17 government of the District of Columbia, the Board of Gov18 ernors of the Federal Reserve System, the General Auditing 19 Office, or any independent establishment; (4) to regroup, 20 coordinate, consolidate, reorganize, or segregate the whole 21 or any part of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve 22 System, the General Auditing Office, or any independent 23 establishment, or the functions of any of them; (5) to abolish 24 or transfer to any other agency any of the functions exer25 cised by the Engineer Corps of the Army or the Mississippi https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 River Commission in administering any laws relating to 2 rivers and harbors or flood control; (6) to create or estab3 lish any new agency to exercise any functions which are 4 not expressly authorized by law in force on the date of 5 enactment of this Act; or (7) to abolish, or to transfer to 6 any other agency, the functions of audit and settlement 7 vested in the Bureau of the Budget by section 301 of this 8 9 Act. (c) Any Executive order issued by the President under 10 this title shall make provision for the transfer or other disposition of the records, property (including office equipment), personnel, and unexpended balances of appropria13 tions of the agency or agencies affected by such Executive 14 order: Provided, That the transfer of personnel shall be 15 without change in classification or compensation, except that 16 this requirement shall not operate after the end of the fiscal 17 year during which the transfer is made to prevent the ad- justment of classification or compensation to conform to the 19 duties to which such transferred personnel may be assigned. 20 The appropriations or portions of appropriations not so 21 transferred or disposed of shall not be used for any purpose 22 but shall be impounded and returned to the Treasury. 2:3 (d) In the case of the abolition of any agency or func- title, the Executive order providing for 24 tion pursuant to this https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 5 1 such .abolition shall also make provision for winding up the 2 affairs of the agency abolished or the affairs of the agency 3 with respect to the function abolished, as the case may be. 4 (e) The President is authorized to make such rules and 5 regulations as may be necessary to carry out his functions 6 under this title. SAVING PROVISIONS 7 8 SEC. :3. (a) All orders, rules, regulations, permits, or 9 other privileges made, issued, or granted by or in respect of 10 any agency or function transferred to any other agency 11 under the provisions of this title, and in effect at the time of 12 the transfer, shall continue in effect to the same extent as if 13 such transfer had not occurred, until modified, superseded, or 14 repealed. , (b) No suit, action, or other proceeding lawfully ccm other 16 menced by or against the head of any agency or official capacity or in 17 officer of the United States, in his duties, shall abate 18 relation to the discharge of his official functions from one officer ?r,_ 19 by reason of any transfer of 15 provisions of this title, but 20 agency to another under the supplemental petition filed at any 21 the court, on motion or effect, e months after such transfer takes 22 time within twelv a survival of such suit, action, or 23 showing a necessity for obtain a settlement of the questions 24 other proceeding to https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 1 involved, may allow the same to be maintained by pr against 2 the head of the agency or other officer of the -United States 3 to whom the functions are transferred. 4 (e) All laws relating to any agency or function trans- 5 ferred to any other agency under the provisions of this title, 6 shall, insofar as such laws are not inapplicable, remain in 7 full force and effect, and shall be administered by the head 8 of the agency to which the transfer is made. 9 10 EFFECTIVE DATE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER SEC. 4. (a) Whenever the President issues an Executive 11 order under the provisions of this title, such Executive 12 order shall be submitted to the Congress while in session 13 and shall not become effective until after the expiration 14 of sixty calendar days after such transmission, unless Con15 gress shall by law provide for an earlier effective date of 16 such Executive order: Provided, That if Congress shall 17 adjourn before the expiration of sixty calendar days from 18 the date of such transmission such Executive order shall 19 not become effective until after the expiration of sixty calen20 dar days from the opening day of the next succeeding regular 21 or special session. 22 (b) No Executive order issued by the President under 23 the provisions of this title shall become effective unless https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 7 1 transmitted to the Congress within three years from the 2 date of the enactment of this Act. DEFINITTONS 3 4 SEC. 5. When used in this Act, unless the context other- 5 wise requires6 (1) The term "agency" means any executive de- establishment, independent 7 partment, independent 8 agency, commission, board, bureau, service, office, 9 administration, authority, division, or activity in the 10 executive branch of the Government, whether in the 11 District of Columbia or elsewhere, and shall include 12 the municipal government of the District of Columbia 13 and any corporation a majority of the stock of which 14 is owned by the United States and of which no member 15 of the board of directors is elected or appointed by 16 private interests. 17 (2) The term "independent establishment" means 18 the legislative courts and the Board of Tax Appeals, 19 the Federal Communications Commission, the Federal 20 Power Commission, the Federal Trade Commission, 21 tho Interstate Commerce Commission, the National 22 Bituminous Coal Commission, the National Labor 23 Relations Board, the Securities and Exchange Com- 24 mission, and the United States Maritime Commission. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 8 1 TITLE II—CIVIL SERVICE AND CLASSIFICATION 2 CIVIL SERVICE ADMINISTRATION 3 SEC. 201. (a) There is hereby established in the execu- 4 tive branch of the Government an organization to be known 5 as the Civil Service Administration (hereinafter referred to 6 as the "Administration"), at the head of which shall be a 7 Civil Service Administrator (hereinafter referred to as the 8 "Administrator"), who shall be appointed by the President, 9 by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, for a term 10 of fifteen years and shall receive a salary at the rate of 11 $10,000 per annum. The Administrator shall be selected 12 without regard to any political affiliations, shall be a person .13 specially qualified for the office of Administrator by reason 1-t of his executive and administrative qualifications, with par15 ticular reference to his actual experience in, or his knowledge 16 of, accepted practices in respect to the functions vested in 17 that office by law, and may be removed by the President 18 for inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office. (b) The Administrator shall appoint a Deputy Civil 19 20 Service Administrator, subject to the civil-service laws, and 21 his salary shall be fixed in accordance with the Classification 22 Act of 1923. fl.S amended. The Deputy Civil Service Ad- 23 ministrator shall perform such functions as the Administrator 24 may prescribe, and shall act as Administrator in the absence 25 of the Administrator or in the event of a vacancy in that 26 oftice, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 9 1 (c) The United States Civil Service Commission and 2 the offices of Civil Service Commissioners are abolished, and 3 all functions vested in such Commission are hereby vested in 4 the Administration. The records, property (including office 5 equipment), personnel, and unexpended balances of appro6 priations of such Commission are hereby transferred to the 7 Administration. 8 (d) The Administrator is authorized to delegate to any 9 officer or employee of the Administration any functions 10 vested in the Administrator or the Administration by law, 11 and to make such rules and regulations as may be necessary 12 to carry out any of such functions. 13 (e) The Administrator shall cause a seal of office to be 14 made for the Administration, of such device as the Presi- 15 dent shall approve, and judicial notice shall be taken of 16 such seal. 17 SEC. 202. (a) In addition to the functions vested in the 18 Administrator by section 201 of this title the Administrator 19 shall prepare and recommend to the President plans for the 20 development and maintenance of a career service in the 21 Federal Government. 22 (b) The A dministrator is further authorized to- 23 (1) Plan, establish, supervise and coordinate em- 24 ployee training programs and similar activities of the 25 various agencies of the Government, and make avail- . https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 10 1 able to such agencies any employee training facilities at 2 his disposal; 3 (2) Obtain information, through the Administra- 4 tion, or in cooperation with other agencies, organiza- 5 tions, or groups, relating to personnel standards, prac- 6 tices, or policies in other governmental jurisdictions or 7 in private industry, and make such information avail- 8 able to the various agencies of the Government; 9 (3) Cooperate with the public personnel agencies 10 of States, Territories, and possessions of the United 11 States (including the Philippine Islands), and political 12 subdivisions thereof, and the District of Columbia, in 13 the adoption, development, or extension of the merit 14 system in their respective jurisdictions, and upon the 15 request of any such agency render advisory or con- 16 sultative personnel service or establish eligible registers 17 for such agency or establish or assist in the establish- 18 Merit of joint eligible registers; 19 (4) At the direction of the President, or upon 20 the request of the head of any agency of the Govern- 21 ment, cooperate or assist in the installation or development of personnel standards, practices, or policies for 22 24 any agency of the Government, or review and investigate personnel standards, practices, or policies of such 25 or the agency, and report thereon to the President 23 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 11 1 officer making the request. Any agency receiving any 2 cooperation or assistance under this or the preceding 3 paragraph may be required to reimburse the Admin- 4 istration for all necessary expenses incurred in connec- 5 tion therewith, and the payments representing such 6 reimbursements shall be deposited as refunds to the 7 appropriations from which such expenses were origi- 8 nally paid, instead of being covered into the Treasury 9 as miscellaneous receipts; 10 (5) Request persons not in the service of the 11 Federal Government who are experts in some aspect 12 of personnel administration to attend conferences with 12 representatives of the Administration or to consult or 14 advise with them, in the District of Columbia or else- 15 where, and reimburse such experts for their subsistence 16 and other expenses at a rate of not to exceed $25 per 17 day for time spent in attending and traveling to and 18 from such conferences, or in consulting or advising with 19 such representatives, plus the actual cost of trans- 20 portation. 21 (6) Purchase manuscripts from private persons, 22 corporations, or other organizations, or meet the costs 23 of special studies made by them, at the request of, 24 or in cooperation with, the Administration; and https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 12 1 (7) Pay in advance membership fees or dues in 2 personnel associations, or in organizations which issue 3 publications to members only or to members at a lower 4 price than to others. PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTIVIENTS 5 SEC. 203. The President, by and with the advice and 6 7 consent of the Senate, shall make appointments to fill any 8 vacancy in any office or position of head of any bureau, 9 division, service, or other similar agency which is in or 10 under the jurisdiction or control of and is directly responsible 11 to the head of an executive department, independent estab12 lishment, or independent 'agency, but only if the President 13 finds that such -office or positiony determining hi 14 character. Any determination by the President that any 15 such office or position is policy determining in character 16 shall be final, and the power of the President to make suc.li 17 determinations shall expire three years after the date of 18 enactment of this Act. EXTENSION OF CLASSIFIED CIVIL SERVICE 19 20 SEC. 204. (a) In addition to the authority vested in 21 the President by the civil-service laws, the President is 22 authorized to cover into the classified civil service any offices 23 or positions in any agency of the executive branch of the . 24 Government, and in any corporation a majority of the stock 25 of which is owned by the United States and of which no https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 13 1 member of the board of directors is elected or appointed 2 by private interests, except offices or positions to which 3 appointments are required to be made by the President by 4 and with the advice and consent of the Senate: Provided, 5 That in the case of any such corporation organized under the 6 laws of any State, Territory, or possession of the United 7 States (including the Philippine Islands), or the District 8 of Columbia, the President is authorized to direct that such 9 action be taken as will require appointments to such offices 10 or positions in such corporation to be made in accordance 11 with the civil-service laws, but such action shall not be ineon12 sistent with the laws under which such corporation wtts 13 organized or with the charter or articles of incorporation 14 of such corporation. 15 (i)) The provisions of this title relating to the covering 16 into the classified civil service of offices and positions shall, 17 in addition to being applicable to any office or position 18 authorized by existing law, be applicable to any office or 19 position authorized by this Act, or hy any subsequent Act 20 unless the Congress specifically provides otherwise. 21 SEC. 205. The incumbent of any office or position which 22 is covered into the classified civil service under the pro23 visions of this title shall not thereby acquire a classified civil24 service status, except (1) upon recommendation by the head 25 of the agency concerned within one year after such office https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 14 1 or position has been covered into the classified civil service, 2 and certification within such period by such head to the 3 Administrator that such incumbent has served with merit 4 for not less than six months prior to the date of the appro5 priate Executive order covering such office or position into 6 the classified civil service, and (2) upon passing such suitable 7 noncompetitive examination as the Administrator may 8 prescribe. EXTENSION OF CLASSIFICATION ACT 9 SEC. 206. (a) Subject to the limitations hereinafter 10 11 provided, whenever the President, after such classification 12 and compensation surveys or investigations as he may direct 13 the Administrator to undertake, and after consideration of 14 the Administrator's resulting reports and recommendations, 15 shall find that an extension of the provisions of the Classifi- 16 cation Act of 1923, as amended, to any office or position 17 not at the time subject to such provisions in any agency of 18 the Government is necessary to the more efficient opera- _________-- -19 tion of the Government, he may by Executive order extend 20 the provisions of such Act to such office or position: Pro21 vided, That any action taken under this subsection with 22 respect to any office or position in any corporation a 23 majority of the stock of which is owned by the United 24 States and of which no member of the board of directors is 25 elected or appointed by private interests shall not be https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 15 1 inconsistent with the laws under which such corporation 2 was organized or with the charter or articles of incorporation 3 of such corporation. (b) Whenever the President, upon report and recom- 4 5 mendation by the Administrator, shall find that one or more 6 offices or positions to which such Act as amended and ex7 tended is applicable may not fairly and reasonably be allo8 cated to any of the classification services or grades defined 9 in the compensation schedules of such Act, he may by 10 Executive order prescribe and define such additional classification services and grades thereof as he may deem neces12 sary, and he shall define and fix the ranges of compensation 13 for the grades of such services within the limits of such Act 14 so that they shall be comparable, as nearly as may be, with 15 the grades defined in such Act for offices or positions that 16 are comparable as to duties, responsibilities, qualifications 17 required, and other conditions of employment. 18 (c) Whenever the President, upon report and recom- 19 mendation by the Administrator, shall find that the rates 20 of the compensation schedules of such Act are inadequate 21 for any office or position to which such Act as amended and extended is applicable, he may by Executive order 22 schedules of differentials in the rates 23 establish necessary 24 prescribed in such compensation schedules, but the differen- of any such office or position shall 25 tial in the compensation https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 16 1 not exceed 25 per centum of the minimum rate of the grade 2 to which such office or position is allocated under such com3 pensation schedules: Provided, That the provisions of this 4 subsection shall be applicable only to offices or positions 5 which are located at stations that are isolated, remote,. or 6 inaccessible when compared with stations at which offices 7 or positions of the same character are usually located, or 8 which involve physical hardships or hazards that are ex9 cessive when compared with those usually involved in offices 10 or positions of the same character, or which are located 11 outside the States of the United States and the District of if the Administrator finds 12 Columbia: Provided further, That hardship, hazard, or foreign 13 that the factor of isolation, each office or position in 14 service is uniformly applicable to positions, the differential pro15 any given class of offices or shall not apply to any office or 16 vided for in this subsection 17 position in such class. 18 19 the (d) Except as Congress may otherwise provide by law, power granted to the President by this section shall not 20 apply to the following21 Service the (1) Offices or positions in the Postal 23 compensation of which is fixed under the Act of Con Stat. 1033), as gress, approved February 28, 1925 (43 24 amended; 25 ans, (2) Offices or positions of teachers, librari of the comschool-attendance officers, and employees 22 26 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 17 1 munity-center department under the Board of Educa- 2 tion of the District of Columbia, the compensation of 3 which is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved 4 Jime 4, 1924 (43 Stat. 367), as amended; 5 (3) Offices or positions in the Metropolitan Police, 6 in the Fire Department of the District of Columbia, and 7 in the United States Park Police, the compensation of 8 which is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved July 9 1, 1930 (46 Stat. 839); 10 (4) Commissioned officers and enlisted personnel in 11 the military and naval services and the Coast Guard, 12 and commissioned officers in the Public Health Service 13 and the Coast and Geodetic Survey, the compensation 14 of which is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved 15 June 10, 1922 (42 Stat. 625), as amended; 16 (5) Offices or positions in the Government Print- 17 ing Office the compensation of which is fixed under the 18 Act of Congress, approved June 7, 1924 (43 Stat. 19 658) 20 (6) Offices or positions of Foreign Service officers 21 in the Foreign Service of the United States the coin- 22 pensation of which is fixed under the Act of Congress, 23 approved May 24, 1924 (43 Stat. 140), as amended; 24 (7) Offices or positions of clerks in the Foreign 25 Service of the United States the compensation of which S. 2970 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2 18 1 is fixed under the Act of Congress, approved February 2 23, 1931 (46 Stat. 1207) ; 3 (8) Offices or positions of commercial attaches, 4 assistant commercial attaches. trade commissioners. assist- 5 ant trade commissioners, and clerks and other assistants 6 to officers, including clerical and sub-clerical assistants, 7 in the Foreign Commerce Service of the Department 8 of Commerce, the compensation of which is fixed under 9 the Act of Congress, approved March 3, 1927 (44 Stat. 10 1394), as amended; 11 (9) Offices or positions of verifiers-openers-packers, 12 clerks, guards, inspectors, station inspectors and laborers, 13 in the Customs Service of the Treasury Department the 14 compensation of which is fixed under the Act of Con- 15 gress, approved May 29, 1928 (45 Stat. 955), as 16 amended; 17 (10) Offices or positions of inspectors in the Immi- 18 gration and Naturalization Service of the Department 19 of Labor the compensation of which is fixed under the 20 Act of Congress, approved May 29, 1928 (45 Stat. 21 954), as amended; 22 (11) Offices or positions the duties of which are 99, to serve as an officer or member of the crew of a vessel; 2 and https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 19 1 (12) Offices or positions the duties of which are 2 to perform the work of an apprentice, helper, or 3 journeyman in a recognized trade or craft, or other 4 skilled mechanical craft, or the work of an unskilled, 5 semiskilled, or skilled laborer; except that whenever 6 such offices or positions involve work in the regular 7 custody, operation, or maintenance of a Government 8 building, or other Government property, or work which 9 is subordinate, incidental, or preparatory to work of 10 a professional, scientific, or technical character, the 11 President, upon a finding that the characteristics and 12 working conditions of such offices or positions render 13 them substantially the same as comparable offices or 14 positions in the District of Columbia included within 15 the Classification Act of 1923, as amended, may by 16 Executive order extend the provisions of such Act to 17 include them. 18 SEC. 207. The President is authorized, after suitable 19 investigation by the Administrator which shall include con20 sultation with representatives of the heads of the executive or independent 21 departments, independent establishments, jurisdiction of which the offices or 22 agencies in or under the designated are located, and upon find23 positions hereinafter is necessary to the more efficient opera24 ing that such action https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 20 1 tion of the Government, to exclude, by Executive order, 2 from the provisions of the Classification Act of 1923, as 3 amended and extended4 (1) Offices or positions the work of which is 5 financed jointly by the United States and a State, Terri- 6 tory, or possession of the United States (including the 7 Philippine Islands), or political subdivision thereof, or 8 cooperating persons or organizations outside the service 9 of the Federal Government, the pay of which is fixed 10 under a cooperative agreement with the United States; 11 (2) Offices or positions none or only part of the 12 compensation of which is paid from funds of the United 13 States; (3) Offices or positions filled by inmates, patients, 14 15 students, or beneficiaries in Government institutions; 16 (4) Offices or positions outside the States of the 17 United States and the District of Columbia filled by 18 natives of Territories or possessions of the United States 19 (including the Philippine Islands) or foreign nationals; 20 (5) Emergency or seasonal offices or positions in 22 the field service, or other field offices or positions the duties of which are of purely temporary duration or 23 which are required only for brief periods at intervals; 24 and 21 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 21 1 (6) Offices or positions filled by persons employed 2 locally on a fee, contract, or piecework basis who may 3 lawfully perform their duties concurrently with their 4 private profession, business, or other employment, and 5 whose duties require only a portion of their time, where 6 it is impracticable to ascertain or anticipate the propor- 7 tion of time devoted to the service of the Federal 8 G overnment. 9 SEC. 208. Whenever an extension of the Classification ive under this title 10 Act of 1923, as amended, becomes effect with respect to any office or position12 (1) The allocation of such office or position to the 13 appropriate service, grade, and class shall be made as 15 provided in section 4 of such Act and in accordance with a uniform procedure to be prescribed by the Adminis- 16 trator; and 14 17 18 19 20 21 (2) The initial compensation of the incumbent of such office or position shall be fixed in accordance with section 6 of such Act; except that if such incumbent is receiving compensation in excess of the maximum rate prescribed for the appropriate grade, no change shall 23 nues to be made in his compensation so long as he conti or pooccupy the same office or position, but the office 24 whenever it besition shall be correctly allocated and 22 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 22 1 comes vacant the compensation attached thereto shall 2 be brought within the proper compensation schedule. 3 SEC. 209. Nothing herein contained shall be construed 4 to prevent the promotion of an officer or employee from an 5 office or position in one class to a vacant office or position in a 6 higher class at any time in accordance with civil-service laws, 7 and when so promoted the officer or employee shall receive 8 compensation according to the schedule established for the 9 class to which he is promoted. 10 TITLE III—ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING 11 TRANSFER OF ACCOUNTING FUNCTIONS SEC. 301. (a) The General Accounting Office and the 12 offices of Comptroller General and Assistant Comptroller 14 General are hereby abolished, and all functions vested in the 15 General Accounting Office, the Comptroller General, and 16 the Assistant Comptroller General by law in force on the 17 date of enactment of this Act, except functions vested in the 18 General Auditing Office by this Act, are hereby vested in 19 the Bureau of the Budget and the Director of such Bureau. 20 Nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize the 21 Bureau of the Budget to exercise any functions vested in 22 the General Auditing Office by this Act or to direct the 23 manner in which such functions shall be exercised. 24 (b) The Attorney General of the United States shall 25 render an opinion with respect to the jurisdiction of the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 23 1 Director of the Bureau of the Budget in connection with the 2 settlement of any public account, upon request therefor by 3 the said Director or the head of the executive department, 4 independent establishment, or independent agency concerned, 5 and any such opinion of the Attorney General shall be final 6 and conclusive upon the said Director and all other officers 7 and agencies of the Government. (c) The records, property (including office equipment), 8 9 personnel, and unexpended balances of appropriations of 10 the General Accounting Office shall be transferred to the 11 General Auditing Office and the Bureau of the Budget upon 12 the effective date of this section as the President shall 13 prescribe by Executive order. The transfer of such personnel 14 shall be without change in classification or compensation, 15 except that this requirement shall not operate after the end 16 of the fiscal year during which the transfer is made to prevent 17 the adjustment of classification or compensation to conform 18 to the duties to which such transferred personnel may be 19 assigned. (d) The Director of the Bureau of the Budget, with 20 21 the approval of the President, shall make such rules and 22 regulations as may be necessary to carry out the functions 23 vested in him by this section. 24 (e) Section 2 of the Budget and Accounting Act, 1921 25 U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 31, sec. 2), is amended by inserting https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 24 1 after the word "including" the words "any independent 2 establishment as defined in section 5 of the Reorganization 3 Act of 1937". 4 5 GENERAL AUDITING OFFICE SEC. 302. (a) There is hereby established a General 6 Auditing Office which shall be an agency of the Congress 7 and independent of the executive branch of the Govern8 ment and shall be under the direction and control of an 9 Auditor General. 10 (b) The Auditor General and an Assistant Auditor 11 General shall be appointed by the President, by and with 12 the advice and consent of the Senate. The Auditor 13 General shall receive a salary at the rate of $10,000 per 14 annum, and the, salary of the Assistant Auditor General 15 shall be fixed in accordance with the Classification Act 16 of 1923, as amended. The Assistant Auditor General shall 17 perform such functions as the Auditor General may pre- 18 scribe, and shall act as Auditor General in the absence of event of a vacancy in that 19 the Auditor General or in the 20 office. 21 (c) Except as hereinafter provided in this subsection, General and the Assistant Auditor General 22 the Auditor for fifteen years. 23 shall bold office The Auditor General eligible for reappointment. The Auditor Gen24 shall not be Assistant Auditor General may be removed 25 eral or the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 25 1 at any time by joint resolution of the Congress after notice 2 and hearing, when, in the judgment of the Congress. the 3 Auditor General or the Assistant Auditor General has be4 come permanently incapacitated or has been inefficient, or 5 guilty of neglect of duty, or of malfeasance in office, or 6 of any felony or conduct involving moral turpitude, and 7 for no other cause and, in no other manner except by im- 8 peachment. Any Auditor General or Assistant Auditor 9 General removed in the manner herein provided shall be 10 ineligible for reappointment to that office. When an 11 Auditor General or Assistant Auditor General attains the age of seventy years, he shall be retired from his office. 12 SEc. 303. (a) The Auditor General shall make an 13 , and 14 audit of the receipts, expenditures, money, securities make a complete 15 funds of the Government, and shall 16 annual report to the Congress not later than March 1 of each preceding 17 year with respect to such audit made during the 18 fiscal year. Such report shall be made as nearly as prac- 19 ticable in accordance with accepted principles of auditing, 20 and shall contain all necessary memoranda and tables, 21 together with an appropriate certificate of audit and such 22 comments as may be pertinent to the subject matter of the 23 audit. 24 (b) Claims and demands against the United States 25 shall be audited by the General Auditing Office promptly https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 26 1 after payment, but prior to final settlement of the disbursing officers' accounts by the Director of the Bureau of the 2 3 Budget. Each such audit shall be conducted as nearly as 4 practicable in the vicinity of disbursing offices of the United 5 States in the District of Columbia and elsewhere. 6 (c) Claims which the Director of the Bureau of the 7 Budget is authorized by law to adjust and settle prior to 8 payment shall be audited by the General Auditing Office 9 after payment, and the certificates of settlement in such 10 cases shall be accompanied by a certificate of the adminis11 trative officer, if any, having jurisdiction over the appro12 priation involved in the settlement, setting forth his recom- 13 mendations thereon. 14 (d) The accountable officers of the Government shall 15 promptly transmit their accounts, together with all supporting 16 documents, to the appropriate representatives of the General 17 Auditing Office for audit. Whenever such representatives 18 take exception to any item in any account so transmitted, 19 notice thereof shall be immediately given to the accountable 20 officer concerned, to the Director of the Bureau of the Budget, 21 and to the Auditor General, together with a statement of the 22 reasons for such exception. After audit by the General 23 Auditing Office, the account shall be transmitted to the 24 Director of the Bureau of the Budget, and the Director shall https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 27 1 take all such exceptions into consideration in settling such 2 account. (e) The Director of the Bureau of the Budget shall 3 4 furnish promptly to the General Auditing Office copies of 5 all certificates issued by him in settlement of accountable 6 officers' accounts, and the General Auditing Office shall 7 examine the copies of such certificates of settlement. The 8 Auditor General shall repOrt promptly to the said Director 9 and to the Congress all public accounts deemed by him to 10 have been improperly settled by the said Director; but no 11 such report shall be made to the Congress with respect to 12 any disagreement between the General Auditing Office and 13 the said Director until the expiration of thirty days after 14 the said Director has been notified of such disagreement, 15 and no such report shall be made to the Congress if the said 16 Director revises his decision in accordance with the views 17 of the General Auditing Office. (f) The Auditor General shall also report to the 18 19 Director of the Bureau of the Budget and to the Congress 20 any expenditure of public funds which the General Auditing 21 Office deems to have been unwisely or improvidently made 22 by or under the authority of the head of any agency of the 23 Government. 24 (g) The Auditor General shall make such investigations 25 and reports as shall be requested by either House of Congress, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 28 1 or by the Joint Committee on Public Accounts, or by any 2 other committee of either House having jurisdiction over 3 expenditures, appropriations, or revenue; and the Auditor 4 General shall furnish any such committee such aid and infor5 mation as it may request. 6 (h) All reports required by this section to be made 7 to the Congress shall be made to the Joint Committee on 8 Public Accounts when the Congress is not in session. 9 SEC. 304. The Auditor General, or any officer or em- 10 ployee of the General Auditing Office when duly authorized 11 by him, shall, to the extent necessary to perform the func12 tions vested in the General Auditing Office, have access 13 to and the right to examine any books, documents, papers, 14 or records of the Bureau of the Budget or of any other 15 agency of the Government; but nothing in this section shall 16 be construed to repeal or modify the provisions of section 291 17 of the Revised Statutes (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 31, sec. 18 107), or any other provisions of law expressly restricting the 19 audit of expenditures or receipts. 20 SEC. 305. (a) The Auditor General is authorized, sub- 21 ject to the civil-service laws, to appoint such officers and 22 employees as he deems necessary to enable the General 23 Auditing Office to exercise the functions vested in it by law; 24 and the compensation of all such officers and employees shall https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 29 1 be fixed in accordance with the Classification Act of 1923, 2 as amended. (b) The Auditor General is authorized to delegate to 3 4 any officer or employee of the General Auditing Office any 5 functions vested in the General Auditing Office by law. (c) The Auditor General is authorized to adopt an 6 7 official seal for the General Auditing Office, and judicial 8 notice shall be taken of such seal. (d) The Auditor General is authorized to prescribe 9 y 10 such rules and regulations as may be necessary to carr out this 11 the functions vested in the General Auditing Office by 12 title. 13 14 SEC. 306. The General Auditing Office shall not exercise any functions except those vested in it by this title, and construed to author15 nothing contained in this title shall be the settlements of 16 ize the General Auditing Office to revise et, or to public accounts made by the Bureau of the Budg vested in the Bureau 18 direct the manner in which the functions ised. 19 of the Budget by this title shall be exerc 17 JOINT COMMITTEE ON P UBLIC ACCOUNTS lished a joint SEC. 307. (a) There is hereby estab 21 ittee to be known as the Joint Committee 22 congressional comm (hereinafter referred to as the "joint 23 on Public Accounts twenty-four members as committee"), to be composed of 20 24 25 follows: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 30 1 Four members, two from the majority party and two 2 from the minority party, who are members of and are chosen 3 by each of the following committees: In the Senate, the 4 Committee on Expenditures in the Executive Departments, 5 the Committee on Appropriations, and the Committee on 6 Finance; and in the House of Representatives, the Commit- tee on Expenditures in the Executive Departments, the Com8 mittee on Appropriations, and the Committee on Ways and 9 Means. 10 (b) No person shall continue to serve as a member 11 of the joint committee after he has ceased to be a member 12 of the committee by which he was chosen; except that any 13 such member chosen by any such Committee of the House 14 of Representatives who has been re-elected to the House 15 of Representatives may continue to serve as a member of 16 the joint committee notwithstanding the expiration of the 17 Congress. 18 (c) A vacancy in the joint committee shall not affect 19 the power of the remaining members to execute the func20 tions of the joint committee, and shall be filled in the same 21 manner as the original selection; except that in case of a 22 vacancy during an adjournment or recess of the Congress 23 for a period of more than two weeks, the members of the 24 joint committee who are members of the committee entitled 25 to fill such vacancy may designate a member of such https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 31 1 committee to serve until his successor is chosen by such 2 committee. (d) The joint committee shall elect a chairman and a 3 4 vice chairman from among the members of the joint com5 mittee, and shall have the power to appoint and fix the 6 compensation of a clerk and such experts and clerical, sten7 ographic, and other assistants, as it deems advisable. (e) The members of the joint committee shall serve 8 9 without compensation in addition to that received for their 10 services as Members of Congress; but they shall be reim11 bursed for travel, subsistence, and other necessary expenses 12 incurred by them in the exercise of the functions vested 13 in the joint committee, other than expenses in connection 14 with meetings of the joint committee held in the District is in session. 15 of Columbia during such times as the Congress (f) It shall be the duty of the joint committee to exss and 17 amine and study all reports submitted to the Congre 18 to the joint committee by the Auditor General as provided 16 19 in section 303. The joint committee shall submit to the 20 Senate and the House as promptly as possible such findings reports as 21 and recommendations with respect to any such advisable. 22 the joint committee deems 23 24 (g) The joint committee, or any subcommittee thereof, shall have power to hold hearings and to sit and act at such to require by subpena or otherwise the 25 places and times, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 32 1 attendance of such witnesses and the production of such 2 books, papers, and documents, to administer such oaths, to 3 take such testimony, to have such printing and binding done, 4 and to make such expenditures, as it deems advisable. Sub5 penas shall be issued under the signature of the chairman 6 of said joint committee, and shall be served by any person 7 designated by him. The provisions of sections 102 to 104, 8 inclusive, of the Revised Statutes (relating to examination 9 and testimony of witnesses) shall apply with respect to any 10 person who is summoned as a witness under authority of this subsection. 12 (h) Amounts appropriated for the expenses of the joint 13 committee shall be disbursed one-half by the Secretary of 14 the Senate and one-half by the clerk of the House of 15 Representatives. 16 TITLE IV—DEPARTMENTS OF WELFARE AND 17 CONSERVATION AND NATIONAL RESOURCES 18 PLANNING BOARD 19 DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE 20 Six. 401. (a) There shall be at the seat of govern- 21 ment an executive department to be known as the Depart- 22 ment of Welfare, and a Secretary of Welfare, who shall be 23 the head thereof, and shall be appointed by the President, 24 by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, and shall 25 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis have a tenure of office and salary like those of the heads of 33 1 the other executive departments. Section 158 of the Re2 vised Statutes, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 5, 3 sec. 1), is amended to include such department and the 4 provisions of title IV of the Revised Statutes, including all 5 Acts amendatory and supplementary thereto, shall be ap6 plicable to such department. (b) There shall be in the Department of Welfare an 7 8 Undersecretary of Welfare and two Assistant Secretaries 9 of Welfare, who shall be appointed by the President, by io and with the advice and consent of the Senate, and a Solicitor, who shall be appointed by the Secretary of Welfare, all of 12 whom shall exercise such functions as may be prescribed 13 by the Secretary of Welfare or required by law. The 14 Undersecretary and the Solicitor shall each receive a salary 15 of $10,000 per annum, and the compensation of the 16 Assistant Secretaries shall be fixed in accordance with the 17 Classification Act of 1923, as amended. (c) The Secretary of Welfare shall administer the 18 19 laws relating to the public health and sanitation; the pro20 tection of the consumer; education ; the relief of unemploy21 ment and of the hardship and suffering caused thereby; the 22 relief of the needy and distressed ; the assistance of the aged; 23 and the relief and vocational rehabilitation of the physically 24 disabled. S. 2970-3 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 34 1 (d) The Secretary of W.elfare shall cause a seal of 2 office to be made for the Department of Welfare, of such 3 device as the President shall approve, and judicial notice 4 shall be taken of such seal. 5 (e) The Secretary of Welfare shall annually, at the 6 close of each fiscal year, make a report in writing to the 7 Congress, giving an account of all money received and 8 expended by the Department of Welfare and describing the 9 work done by that Department. He shall also from time 10 to time make such special investigations and reports as he 11 may deem necessary, or as he may be required to make 12 by the President, or by either House of Congress. 13 14 DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION SEC. 402. The Department of the Interior shall here- 15 after be known as the "Department of Conservation", and 16 the Secretary of the Interior shall be known as the "Secre17 tary of Conservation", and all the provisions of titles IV 18 and XI of the Revised Statutes, including all Acts .amenda19 tory and supplementary thereto, and all other Acts referring 20 to the Department of the Interior, the Secretary of the 21 Interior, or any other officers or employees of that Depart22 ment, are amended accordingly. 23 24 NATIONAL RESOURCES PLANNING BOARD SEC. 403. (a) There is hereby established in the execu- 25 tive branch of the Government a National Resources Plan- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1 ning Board (hereinafter referred to as the "Board") which 2 shall be composed of five members to be appointed by the 3 President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. 4 One of the members of the Board shall be designated by the 5 President as chairman, and one of such members shall be 6 designated by the President as vice chairman. The vice 7 chairman shall act as chairman in the absence of the chair8 man or in the event of a vacancy in that office. The mem9 bers of the Board shall be compenated at the rate of $50 10 per day for time spent in attending and traveling to and )I.1, from meetings, or in otherwise exercising the functions of the Board, plus the actual cost of transportation: Provided, )3_, That in no case shall a member be entitled to receive corn14 pensation for more than thirty days' services in any two 15 consecutive months. 16 (b) The Board shall cause a seal of office to be made for 17 such Board, of such device as the President shall approve, 18 and judicial notice shall be taken of such seal. 19 (c) The Board shall determine the rules of its own pro- 20 ceedings, and a majority of its members in office shall con21 stitute a quorum for the transaction of business, but the Board 22 may function notwithstanding vacancies. 23 SEC. 404. The Board is authorized to- 24 (1) Investigate, examine, study, analyze, assemble, 25 and coordinate and periodically to review and revise https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 36 1 basic information and materials appropriate to plans 2 or planning policies for the development and utiliza- 3 tion of the resources of the Nation, both natural and 4 human, and on the basis thereof, to initiate and pro- 5 pose in an advisory capacity such plans and planning 6 policies; 7 (2) To obtain data and reports from, to cooperate 8 and participate in the work of, and to consult with, 9 any agencies af the Federal Government and of any 10 State, Territory, or possession of the United States 11 (including the Philippine Islands), or political sub- 12 divisions thereof, as well as any public planning or 13 research agencies and institutions; and 14 (3) Prepare and submit studies, reports, and 15 recommendations upon matters within its jurisdiction 16 under this Act for presentation to the President or upon 17 the request of the President. 18 SEC. 405. (a) The Board is authorized, without regard 19 to the civil-service laws, to appoint a director, and, subject 20 to the civil-service laws, to appoint such other officers and 21 employees as may be necessary to carry out its functions. 22 The compensation of the director and such other officers and 23 employees shall be fixed in accordance with the Classification 24 Act of 1923, as amended. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 37 (b) The Board shall prepare and submit annually to 2 the President a report setting forth and summarizing its work 3 during the preceding year, and shall include therein such 4 information, data, and recommendations concerning matters 5 within its jurisdiction as the Board may deem advisable. (c) The Board is authorized to delegate to the director 6 7 or to any other officer or employee of the Board any functions vested in the Board by law. (d) The Board is authorized to prescribe such rules 9 10 and regulations as may be necessary to carry out its functions. SEC. 406. The National Resources Committee, estab- 11 12 lished by Executive Order Numbered 7065 of June 7, 1935, 13 is hereby abolished, and the records, property (including 14 office equipment), and personnel of such Committee, and 15 the unexpended balances of funds available for expenditure 16 by such Committee, shall be transferred to the Board. TITLE V—MISCELLANEOUS 17 18 SEC. 501. Subject to such regulations as the President 19 may from time to time prescribe, the President and the heads 20 of the Executive departments, independent establishments 21 and independent agencies of the Government, for the pur- 22 poses of consultation, investigation and research in connection 23 with the exercise of functions vested in them by law, or, in 24 the case of the heads of such agencies, for the purposes of con- https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 38 1 ducting such investigations or research as may be required 2 of them by the President, are respectively authorized, with3 out regard to the provisions of other laws applicable to the 4 employment and compensation of officers and employees of 5 the United States, to appoint and fix the compensation of 6 such experts and consultants for temporary periods as may 7 be necessary. 8 SEC. 502. The President is authorized to appoint six 9 Administrative Assistants without regard to the provisions 10 of other laws applicable to the employment of officers and 11 employees of the United States, and to fix the compensation 1.2 of each of them at not to exceed $10,000 per annum. Said 13, Administrative Assistants shall perform such duties as the 14 President may prescribe. 15 SEC. 503. There is hereby authorized to be appro- 16 priated out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise 17 appropriated such sums as may be necessary to carry out 18 the provisions of this Act. 19 SEC. 504. If any provision of this Act, or the applica- 20 tion thereof to any person or circumstance, is held invalid, 21 the remainder of the Act, and the application of such pro22 vision to other persons or circumstances, shall not be affected 23 thereby. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 39 SEC. 505. (a) Subsection (c) of section 201 shall 1 2 become effective when the first Civil Service Administrator 3 appointed under section 201 takes office. (b) Sections 301 to 306, inclusive, and section 401, 4 5 shall become effective upon the expiration of one hundred 6 and eighty days after the date of enactment of this Act 7 unless the President shall by Executive order provide for 8 an earlier effective date. (c) Section 406 shall become effective when a majority 9 10 of the members of the National Resources Planning Board 11 first appointed under the provisions of section 403 take 12 office. SEC. 506. This Act may be cited as the "Reorganiza- 13 tion Act of 1937". https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Calendar No. 1286 75TH CONGRESS1 1ST SESSION J S. 2970 [Report No. 1236] A BILL To provide for reorganizing agencies of the Government, extending the classified civil service, establishing a General Auditing Office and a Department of Welfare, and for other purposes. By Mr. BYRNES AUGUST 16, 1937 Read twice and referred to the Select Committee on Government Organization AUGUST 16 (calendar day, AUGUST 17), 1937 Reported without amendment \ Union Calendar No.550 75TH CONGRESS iST SESSION H. R. 8202 [Report No. 1487] IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AUGUST 10,1937 Mr. WARREN,from the Select Committee on Government Organization, reported the following bill; which was committed to the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union and ordered to be printed A BILL To provide for the reorganization of agencies of the Government, to establish the Department of Welfare, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- 2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 4 TITLE I—REORGANIZATION SECTION 1. (a) Title IV of part II of the Legislative 5 Appropriation Act, fiscal year 1933, as amended (U. S. C., 6 1934 edition, title 5, secs. 124-132), is hereby reenacted 7 and is amended in the following respects: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2 1 (1) Section 401, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 edition, 2 title 5, sec. 124), is amended by striking out the first para3 graph and the words "Accordingly, the" in the second para4 graph and inserting in lieu thereof the word "The"; 5 (2) Section 402, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 edition, 6 title 5, sec. 125), is amended by inserting after the word 7 "establishment," the words "corporation owned or controlled 8 by the United States," and by changing the period at the 9 end of the section to a comma and inserting thereafter the 10 following: "but shall not include, except as to the function of 11 preparing estimates of appropriations, the Interstate Com12 merce Commission, the Federal Trade Connnission, the 13 Federal Power Commission, the Securities and Exchange 14 Commission, the Federal Communications Commission, the 15 National Labor Relations Board, the National Bituminous 16 Coal Commission, the United States Maritime Commission, 17 the Engineer Corps of the United States Army, the Coast 18 Guard, the General Accounting Office, and the United States 19 Tariff Commission."; 20 (3) Section 409, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 edition, 21 title 5, sec. 132), is stricken out. 22 (b) No Executive order issued by the President under 23 the authority of subsection (a) of this section shall become 24 effective unless transmitted to the Congress within two years 25 from the date of the enactment of this Act. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 3 TITLE II—BUDGETARY CONTROL 2 SEC. 201. Section 2 of the Budget and Accounting Act, 3 1921 (U. S. C., 1934 edition, title 31, sec. 2), is amended 4 by inserting after the word "including" the words "any 5 independent regulatory commission or board and". 6 7 TITLE III—THE DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE SEc. 301. There shall be at the seat of government an 8 executive department to be known as the Department of 9 Welfare, and a Secretary of Welfare, who shall be the 10 head thereof, and shall be appointed by the President, by 11 and with the advice and consent of the Senate, and have a 12 tenure of office like that of the heads of the other executive 13 departments. Section 158 of the Revised Statutes, as 14 amended (U. S. C., 1934 edition, title 5, sec. 1), is amended 15 to include such Department and the provisions of title IV 16 of the Revised Statutes, including all Acts amendatory 17 and supplementary thereto, shall be applicable to such 18 Department. 19 SEC. 302. There shall be in the Department of Welfare 20 an Under Secretary of Welfare and two Assistant Secre21 taries of Welfare who shall be appointed by the President, 22 by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, and a 23 Solicitor, who shall be appointed by the Secretary of Wel24 fare, and all of whom shall exercise such functions as may https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 1 be prescribed by the Secretary of Welfare or required by 2 law. SEC. 303. The Secretary of Welfare shall promote the 3 4 public health, safety, and sanitation; the protection of the 5 consumer; the cause of education ; the relief of unemploy6 ment and of the hardship and suffering caused thereby; the 7 relief of the needy and distressed; the assistance and benefits 8 of the aged and the relief and vocational rehabilitation of the 9 physically disabled; and in general shall coordinate and pro- 10 mote public health, education, and welfare activities. SEC. 304. The Secretary of Welfare shall cause a seal 11 12 of office to be made for his Department, of such device as 13 the President shall approve, and judicial notice shall be 14 taken of such seal. SEC. 305. The Secretary of Welfare shall annually, at 15 16 the close of each fiscal year, make a report in writing to the 17 Congress, giving an account of all money received and ex- -18 pended by him and his Department and describing the work 19 done by the Department. He shall also from time to time 20 make such special investigations and reports as he may be 21 required to make by the President, or by the Congress, or 22 as he himself may deem necessary. 23 24 TITLE TV—GENERAL PROVISIONS SEC. 401. There is authorized to be appropriated, out 25 of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 5 1 such sums as may be necessary to carry out the provisions 2 of this Act. 3 SEC. 402. This Act may be cited as the "Reorganiza- 4 tion Act of 1937". https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Union Calendar No. 550 75TH 1ST SESSION CONGRESS} H• R• 8202 [Report No. 1487] A BILL To provide for the reorganization of agencies of the Government, to establish the Department of Welfare, and for other purposes. By Mr. WARREN AUGUST 10, 1937 Committed to the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union and ordered to be printed 312-'*°\ 75TH CONGRESS 1. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES j 1st Session J t f' REPbRT No. 1487 REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS, ESTABLISHMENT OF DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE AUGUST 10, 1937.—Committed to the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union and ordered to be printed Mr. COCHRAN, from the Select Committee on Government Organizations, submitted the following REPORT [To accompany H. R. 8202] The Select Committee on Government Organization, to whom was referred the bill (H. R. 8202) to provide for the reorganization of agencies of the Government, to establish the Department of Welfare, and for other purposes, having considered the same, report it back to the House without amendment and recommend that the bill do pass. GENERAL STATEMENT H. R.8202 reenacts title IV of the act of June 30, 1932, as amended, with certain limitations and additions noted below. This title of that act authoiized the President to investigate the wdsting organization of executive and administrative agencies of the Government, and under policies and limitations set forth in the act to regroup, consolidate, transfer, or abolish agencies and functions. Under that act any Executive order issued under the authority of the act was required to be submitted to the Congress while in session and did not become effective until 60 days thereafter. Also the authority granted to the President was limited to a period of 2 years from the date of enactment. These limitations, as well as the others provided in that act, are embodied in the bill. Legislation authorizing administrative reorganization under policies and limitations set forth by the Congress has been enacted previously on a number of occasions. The Overman Act of May 20, 1918, is a notable example. Similar authority WaS granted to the President in connection with the creation of the Department of Commerce and Labor in 1903 and the Veterans' Administration in 1930. In 1932 authority to reorganize was granted to President Hoover by the act https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2 REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS of June 30, 1932. This act, which was extended and amended on March 3, 1933, and again on March 20, 1933, is reenacted by this bill. It is well recognized that administrative reorganization can be brought about only by authorizing the Chief Executive to make the - detailed investigations required, and under policies and limitations set forth by the Congress, to carry into effect reorganization in the interest of economy, efficiency, and the orderly conduct of the work of the Government. The constitutional functions of the Congress are exercised in the determination of the policies and limitations of such reorganization, and the consideration of Executive orders before they become effective. The detailed provisions are properly left to the Executive. The need for administrative reorganization and a reduction of the administrative agencies of the Government is apparent to all. The President's Committee on Administrative Management has testified that there are at present in the Government 133 separate departments, commissions, boards, authorities, and other agencies. This multiplication of independent agencies defeats the ends of efficient and economical administration of the affairs of government. A thoroughgoing reorganization has been needed for years, and is more imperative now than ever before. Repeated efforts during the last 17 years by the Congress to enact the detailed reorganization have proved to be futile. A considerable amount of reorganization was accomplished by the President under the authority of the act of June 30, 1932 before it expired, through the issuance of a number of Executive orders, but the attention of the administration during this period was necessarily turned to the urgent problems created by the disastrous depression, and the real task of administrative reorganization had to be postponed until a more favorable time. That time has now come. The authority granted to the President by this bill is considerably less than that granted to him in previous legislation. His power to make transfers affecting independent commissions and boards charged by law with regulatory functions is strictly limited, though no such limitation was provided in the 1932 act. The only authority granted to the President with respect to the independent regulatory commissions and boards is that which will enable him to exercise a salutary budgetary supervision over such agencies. This is necessaiy if we are to have a sound budget applicable to all agencies of the Government. Within recent years there has been a tendency of some independent commissions and boards to regard themselves as above any budgetary review by the President. This is contrary to the intent of the Budget 'and Accounting Act of 1921;it is contrary to the principle of Executive responsibility to the Congress. H. R. 8202 also creates a new Department of Welfare, which is charged with the promotion of public health, education, and welfare activities of the Government. The creation of this executive department is essential to an effective administrative reorganization. It has been advocated and considered for years. There are numerous permanent agencies of the Government in this general field which do not belong within any of the 10 existing executive departments. Unless a welfare department is created, most of these agencies would have to remain independent. The most urgently needed reorganizations would thus be defeated. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS 3 . . Administrative reorganization of the Government is a difficult and complicated task. It cannot be accomplished without painstaking investigation and careful deliberation. A thorough reorganization will involve the consolidation and merging of similar or related activities to bring about greater economy of operation, more effective planning and responsibility, and the avoidance of unnecessary duplication. It will require time. If it is to be done during this administration, the President should be granted the necessary authority at this session of the Congress. ANALYSIS OF THE BILL TITLE I. REORGANIZATION Section 1 reenacts title IV of part II of the Legislative Appropriation Act,fiscal year 1933, as amended by section 16 of the act of March 3, 1933, and by title III of the act of March 20, 1933 (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 5, secs. 124-132). In making this reenactment, this section of the bill also makes the following amendments to the provisions of title IV of that act: (1) The first paragraph of section 401, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 5, sec. 124), containing a general declaration of the existence of an emergency due to an economic depression, is stricken out. (2) The definition of the term "executive agency" contained in section 402, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 5, sec. 125), is amended by inserting the words "corporation owned or controlled by the United States". This amendment brings the Government corporations within the President's power of reorganization. Section 402 is further amended by expressly excluding from the meaning of the term "executive agency" certain designated independent regulatory commissions and boards, the Engineer Corps of the United States Army, the Coast Guard, and the General Accounting Office, except with respect to their functions of preparing estimates of appropriations. As the result of this amendment, the President will have no power under the bill to reorganize these agencies, other than to transfer the function of preparing the estimates of the appropriations for such agencies. (3) Section 409, as amended (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 5, sec. 132), is stricken out. This section prescribed the date of the expiration of the President's authority under the old law. Subsection (b) of section 1 of the bill provides that the President's authority under the bill shall expire at the end of 2 years from the date of its enactment. TITLE II. BUDGETARY CONTROL Section 201 amends section 2 of the Budget and Accounting Act, 1921 (U. S. C., 1934 ed., title 31, sec. 2), by inserting in the definition of the term "department and establishment" the words "any independent regulatory commission or board and". Recently a number of independent regula tory commissions and boards have taken the position that they are not within the scope of the budgetary provisions of the Budget and Accounting Act, 1921. Although the provisions of that act were plainly intended to include them, the purpose of this amendment is to remove any doubt on the subject by expressly including within that act all independent regulatory commissions and https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 4 REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS boards, such as, for example, the Interstate Commerce Cornmission and the Federal Trade Commission. TITLE III. THE DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE Section 301 establishes an executive department to be known as the -Department of Welfare, and creates the office of Secretary of Welfare. Section 302 creates in the Department of Welfare an office of Under Secretary, two offices of Assistant Secretaiy, and an office of Solicitor. Section 303 describes the functions of the Secretary of Welfare. In general, these functions relate to the coordination and promotion of public health, education, and welfare activities. Section 304 authorizes the Secretary of Welfare to adopt an official seal for the Department of Welfare. Section 305 requires the Secretary of Welfare to render to the Congress an annual report upon matters concerning the Department of Welfare, and contains other provisions regarding investigations and reports by him. TITLE IV. GENERAL PROVISIONS Section 401 authorizes such appropriations as may be nece.ssary to carry out the provisions of the bill. Section 402 prescribes the short title of the bill. CHANGES IN EXISTING LAW In compliance with paragraph 2a of rule XIII of the Rules of the House of Representatives, changes in existing law made by the bill are shown as follows (existing law proposed.to be omitted is enclosed in black brackets; new matter is printed m italics; existing law in -which no change is proposed is shown in roman): (Legislative Appropriation Act, fiscal year 1933:) TITLE IV. REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS DECLARATION OF STANDARD SEcTioN 401. [The Congress hereby declares that a serious emergency exists by reason of the general economic depression; that it is imperative to reduce drastically government expenditures; and that such reduction may be accomplished in great measure by proceeding immediately under the provisions of this title. [Accordingly, the] The President shall investigate the present organization of all executive and administrative agencies of the Government and shall determine what changes therein are necessary to accomplish the following purposes: (a) To reduce expenditures to the fullest extent consistent with the efficient operation of the Government; (b) To increase the efficiency of the operations of the Government to the fullest extent pra,cticable within the revenues; (c) To group, coordinate, and consolidate executive and administrative agencies of the Government,as nearly as may be, according to major purposes; (d) To reduce the number of such agencies by consolidating those having similar functions under a single head, and by abolishing such agencies and/or such functions thereof as may not be necessary for the efficient conduct of the Government; (e) To eliminate overlapping and duplication of effort; and (f) To segregate regulatory agencies and functions from those of an administrative and executive character. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS 5 DEFINITION OF EXECUTIVE AGENCY SEC. 402. When used in this Title, the term "executive agency" means any commission, independent establishment, corporation owned or controlled by the United States, board, bureau, division, service, or office in the executive branch of the Government and, except as provided in section 403, includes the executive departments [.] , but shall not include, except as to the function of preparing estimates of appropriaFons, the Interstate Commerce Commission, the Federal Trade Commission, the Federal Power Commission, the Securities and Exchange Commis-sion, the Federal Communications Commission, the National Labor Relations Board, the National Bituminous Coal Commistion, the 'United States Maritime Commission, the Engineer Corps of the United States Army, the Coast Guard, the General Accounting Office, and the United States Tariff Commission. POWER OF PRESIDENT SEC. 403. Whenever the President, after investigation, shall find and declare that any regrouping, consolidation, transfer, or abolition of any executive agency or agencies and/or the functions thereof is necessary to accomplish any of the purposes set forth in section 401 of this title, he may by Executive order— (a) Transfer the whole or any part of any executive agency and/or the functions thereof to the jurisdiction and control of any other executive agency; (b) Consolidate the functions vested in any executive agency; or (c) Abolish the whole or any part of any executive agency and/or the functions thereof; and (d) Designate and fix the name and functions of any consolidated activity or executive agency and the title, powers, and duties of its executive head; except that the President shall not have authority under this title to abolish or transfer an executive department and/or all the functions thereof. SEC. 404. The President's order directing any transfer, consolidation, or elimination under the provisions of this title shall also make provision for the transfer or other disposition of the records, property (including. office equipment), and personnel, affected by such transfer, consolidation, or elinnnation. In any case of a transfer or consolidation under the provisions of this title, the President's order shall also make provision for the transfer of such unexpended balances of appropriations available for use in connection with the function or agency transferred or consolidated, as he deems necessary by reason of.the transfer or consolidation, for use in connection with the transferred or consolidated function or for the use of the agency to which the transfer is made or of the agency resulting from such consolidation. SAVING PROVISIONS SEC. 405. (a) All orders, rules, regulations, permits, or other privileges made, issued, or granted by or in respect of any executive agency or function transferred or consolidated with any other executive agency or function under the provisions of this title, and in effect at the time of the transfer or consolidation, shall continue in effect to the same extent as if such transfer or consolidation had not occurred, until modified, superseded, or repealed. (b) No suit, action, or other proceeding lawfully commenced by or against the head of any executive agency or other officer of the United States, in his official capacity or in relation to the discharge of his official duties, shall abate by reason of any transfer of authority, power, and duties from one officer or executive agency of the Government to another under the provisions of this title, but the court, on motion or supplemental petition filed at any time within twelve months after such transfer takes effect, showing a necessity for a survival of such suit, action, or other proceeding to obtain a settlement of the questions involved, may allow the same to be maintained by or against the head of the executive agency or other officer of the United States to whom the authority, powers, and duties are transferred. (c) All laws relating to any executive agency or function transferred or consolidated with any other executive agency or function under the provisions of this title, shall, in so far as such laws are not inapplicable, remain in full force and effect, and shall be administered by the head of the executive agency to which the transfer is made or with which the consolidation is effected. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 REORGANIZATION OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS WINDING UP AFFAIRS OF AGENCIES function SEC. 406. In the case of the elimination of any executive agency or for the President's order providing for such elimination shall make provision the winding up the affairs of the executive arncy eliminated or the affairs of executive agency with respect to the functions eliminated, as the case may be. EFFECTIVE DATE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER the President makes an Executive order under the pro • Whenever 407. SEC. visions of this title, such Executive order shall be submitted to the Congress while in session and shall not become effective until after the expiration of sixty calendar days after such transmission, unless Congress shall by law provide for an earlier effective date of such Executive order or orders. APPROPRIATIONS IMPOUNDED SEC. 408. The appropriations or portions of appropriations unexpended by reason of the operation of this title shall not be used for any purpose but shall be impounded and returned to the Treasury. [TERMINATION OF POWER [SEc. 409. No Executive order issued by the President in pursuance of the provisions of section 403 of this Title shall become effective unless transmitted to the Congress within two years from the date of the enactment of this Act.] provides (Nom Sec. 1 (b) of H. R. 8202 contains a new provision, analogous to the old sec. 409, which that all Executive orders must be submitted within 2 years after the enactment of H. R. 8202.) (Budget and Accounting Act, 1921:) SEC. 2. When used in this Act— The terms "department and establishment" and "department or establishment" mean any executive department, independent commission, board, bureau, office, agency, or other establishment of the Government, including any independent regulatory commissio-n or board and the municipal government of the District of Columbia, but do not include the Legislative Branch of the Government or the Supreme Court of the United States; The term "the Budget" means the Budget required by section 201 to be transmitted to Congress; The term "Bureau" means the Bureau of the Budget; The term "Director" means the Director of the Bureau of the Budget; and of The t,erm "Assistant Director" means the Assistant Director of the Bureau the Budget. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis eta.r BOARD OF GOVERNORS _awn* r- 6 OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM WASHINGTON ADDRESS OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE BOARD June 23, 1937. Subject: Program for strengthening banking situations where such need is ineicatee in the case of State member banks. Dear Sir: As you will recall, at the recent meeting of the Presidents of the Federal Reserve banks, members of thu Board brought up for discuseion the desirability, as a System matter, of working out programs to take care of any State member banks which may bc in a weakened condition or faced with such unfavorable nrospects Ls to raise a question as to their future. In reality, such a concerted program would be a continuation of the 1-ehrbilitation program begun ia the summer of 193Z, with the difference thet, wherers the earlier phase of the program was concerned primaril:y with the strengthening of the capital position of the banks, tha current phase of the program, while not ignoring the question of adeqaacy of capital or negLecting effort, to obtain adjustments where needod, would be concerned primarily with the fundamental questicns of management and economic justification for a bank. In accordance with the understanding reached at the Presidents' Conference, therefore, it is requested that a survey be made by each Federal Reserve bank of the banking situation in communities in its district where State member banks are located, with a view to determining thich, if any, banks are faced with serious difficulties, either becnuse of an over-banked community, lack of economic justification on any other grounds, inefficient managfment, or any other reaecn. If u bank's difficulties are due to an inefricient man;ement, every effort should be made to effect an improvement in the management. Such a suggestion does not contemplate, of course, that the 1).eserve banks are to attempt to run tie State :dember banks, select their managements, or dictate to the manacements. It eoes contemplate, however, that, if a bank is suffering ;)ecause of management or its future appears uncertain on that account, the situation be brought clearly and emphatically to the attention of the directors of the bank, and thut https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • -2- S-6 the directors be urgcd t3 fulfill their prinrry respensibility uf provirang a proper manwoment. In ouch situations it is feLt thct effrts should be made to enlist tne cooperation of the f,ppropriate St',:te authorities, if they ere nct elrendy workirg on the problem. If the dire:eters are unable or unwilling t4. nrovide adequate manegoment in the circumstnnces, it wruld seem tnnt the Federal Reserve bank and 3tzte Tuthorities sneulc"' ccnsider cL,refulLy 7hethef the best interests 3f the depositcrs, the stockhelders, the comnunity itself, and the Fedel.L1 De2osit Insurance Corporation would not require that the bfInk be abso2bed by some other institution or 1)1eed in voluntary liqui:flation at -1 time when the deposits may be paid off without loss to the depositors or the Federal Leposit Insurance Corporation, end the stockholders may :ret receive something on their ctock. If the question is not cne of management, but of the lack of besic justification for the existencc of the Lank, a similar progrm fer absexption or voluntary liquidation would seem to be in order. The suggested program invlvos, of course, cooperatim to the fullcst extent b7 the F,derel Reserve banks, the State euthritjes, the Ccmptruller of the Currency, the Federal Deposit InsurEnce Corpratien, and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation where thet Corpor7tion is interested, as situatims may indicate all manners of conEolidations or morgcrs, State merl;Jr banc aith other Str.te member b'anks, with national banks, ur with insured nonnember banks, or any other combination of the thre classes of b'laks; perhaps even tlie orgenization of a new bank to assame the liabilities of existing institutions. In this connection you rie familiar with the fact that the Federal reposit Insurance CorDurqtion has m:dc a numno-r of absorptions possible through loons on unt.cceptable assets, ancl it shou3d be noted that the right of the Federnl Leposit Insurance Corporation to purchase assets or mak,- such loans e:vtires July 1939. The Board appreciates the fact that, working along the lines dircussed in tl-is letter, the Feder9.1 Reserve banks have been instrumental in a number of cases in bringing about mergers and effecting changos in mangemeats, and that in other c.2ses tha 116serve banks are worKing on d€.fini_te progr'ims to improvc existing banking situations. It ic blicAred, hot,3ver, that intensification of efforts Llong these and a d,:velopment of a prop-ram for the Eystem as e whole is highly desirable. It is requt:stod that a report submitted to the Board by Septomber 1, 1937, as to thE results of tne survey, the accomplishments t: drlte, and the status of Each of the other cases 'Ahere it is felt that action of some kind or degre along the lines discussed is desiraLle. in acking for a reprrt by September L, it is realized, of course, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis r• that consideroble time will be necessary in working out some of the individua3 programs, but the Reserve banks are familiar with the situations in their respective districts, and it is hoped that some of the situations on which they have been working may have boen satisfactorily adjusted by that time. Very truly yours, )--y)0-v&t:ef Chester Morrill, Secretary. TO ALL PRESIDENTS https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ) C i )1„, 0*, i June 1, 1957 MR. PAULGER Correspondence Files on Mr. Hostrup National Benke is you 'mow, in analyzing examination reports of national banks in oonnection with voting permit matters, we have always requestel the Comptroller's oorreipondence filee regarding the banks under anal,ysis. Recently I was informed by Mr. Bartz that the Comptroller's file room had discontinued furniahing the correspondence file& with the examination reports. So Nit' as I know we have not been informed as to apy particular reasons for the discontinuance but it may be presumed t'-tat the Comptroller's office has in tie past soffered some inconvenience because of having their files held out too long, not only by us but possibly also by the R4r.c. and the F.D.I.C. In working up reviews of general voting permit cases, it is very deeirable that we have access to the Comptroller's oorrespondence files on national banks, with particular regard to t":le following matter whiee is quoted from the suggested form for voting permit review memortneat VII. CO5DITI3N AND MANAGEMENT OF .E:ANKS IN Tla GROUPt (C) gaapliance_witil 'Paragraph _2 of agreement (Notes This heading ap2lies only to subsidiary benks. The discusmion elow, in summary form, toe extent which tle involved have eliminated losses and to banks depreciation shown in the latest available examination reoorts, and for that reason there ehould be noted on toe respective analysis raeets the information on VIE point shown in the examination reports or in the &coolslanying correspondence files.) In many cases the reporto of examination of national banks do not show that the estimated losses have been eliminated, but such information fre- quently apneRrs in the oorrespondence files in toc form of a letter from the bank to the Comptroller of the Currency. Accordingly, this section of the review memoranda can not be completed satisfactorily in most caves unless the correspondence is available to ue. (Incidentally, we freqoently stumble into other useful information in t4e correspondence files - the examination reoort does not always give us the whole story.) It ee:ems to me that the section of the memorandum quoted above is veAy important. The information on this point disclosed by the review mom. ores& 1117 he very useful in determining the general policy to be followed in ohecking up compliance by holding 'company affiliates witol paragraphs I wad t of the general voting permit agreements, and it is therefore desirRble that https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis the memorands shor as much information as possible in thin regard. I an 117.!ting Mis memorandum to you with t'ne th-mght that you me, wish to discuss rith Folger, or possibly Mr. Gough, ttle matter of borrowing their oorresoondemee files. If the discontinuance of the practice of furnishing the corresnondenes 'with examination reports is due to the fact that their files helm been kept out too long in the last, I am sure that it 'ill be satisfactory for our rourposes to hold then only a very short time. We could, if socidimalr, wee that all oorrespondenCe files borrowed from them will be returned within twenty—four !lours. GL.d:EG https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (COP!) BOARD OF GOVIRNORS OF THR FEDERAL RFSERVI SYSTIN rbicago, Ill. October 27, 1957 Pvulger, Chief Mr. Division of Nominations, Board of Governore of the 7,1ceral keserve Syetft Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Paulger: During the couroe of this examination I have talked with Nr. Schaller and Mr. Young as to what the prospects were for receiving applications for membership in this distric, and I thought you might be interested In their reactions. Mr. Young stated that were it not for two factors, namely, bank officer in Iowa and Vleconsin, and the apparent reluctance of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to rolinquia ;All.ervision, a eiseable number of banks, all with good aaset condition, could be procurer4 as members. The statutes governing the operations of bank offices in Iowa and receiving statiomm in isconsin are attached Ft, a matter of information. Although no effort hhs been made to interest banks operating officee in membership in the Syntosi it is stated that officera of such banks have in many cases volunteered the information that they would apply for assi. bership if the law defining branches were amended to exclude bank offices https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 2- and receiving stations. Mr. Schaller stated that 7,,---Ir:;-=,dent of Banks of the State of Iowa recently told him that if this law was amended, he could procure 55 umbers for the Chicsgo Aeserve Bank. A$ to the attitude of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation toward membership of insured State banks in the Syetem, L-r.. Young 'eels that (orperation is loath to pass over the supervision of tilch banks and has adopted a policy of ineisting upon varirus requirements being adhered to which are not insisted upon while the applicant bank ie under the Coriporationts supervision. An instance WAV gtven where e Corpora- tion's examiner had classed approximPtely al9,000 of phper in the teak of a prospective memb?..r as doubtfa and the ten to one ratio of capital structure to teposits VbX out of line 117 approximately ::J5,000. The Cor- poration took the attitude that the bank should sell M.000 new capital before being admitted to momberuhip notwithstanding the fact that subsequent to the filing of the Corporation examiner'a zeport, J21111:111 Ihl Dvarl:duiliaiduted jja1111, ancl in addition the bank wae known to have title to certain parcels of good real ectr.te carried ae a nonbook asset having an estimated forced sale value in excess of 'i55,000 and a potential value greatly in excess of that amount. (Nabash Valley Trust Co., Peru, Ind.) .another example of the Corporation's attitude is shown in the attached letter, which, of course, shows the Corporation to be exceedingly drastic as well au unreasonable in its demands. Ur. Young ac- knowledges the importance of the relation of capital structure to deposit liability, but foils that in thr. case of a well managed bank with good asset condition, the ten to one rule Ohould be flexible as a membership https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis • -3- requirement and that if the Corporation would adopt ruch at attitude that once banks are admitted to membership their capital ratios could, by proper permasion and within a reasonable time, be brought within satisfactory limits. A list of nonmember banks which are reported to be well managedi in good condition as to assets and eligible for membership except as to the ratio of capital structure to deposits was reviewed with Mr. Young. De- posits of these banks ranged from 1'600,000 to '12,000,000 and in no case did the capital ratio appear to be too far out of line to preclude membership or rectification within a rekisonable length of time. It was understood that there are 4P, inch nonmember harke with total depoeite of 0114,000,000 located in the following States. State No. of poseible DrospeKtive members Illinois Ini'lana Iowa Michigsr lAsconsin 9 8 10 * 0 15 * Average deposAs 42,200,000 4,200,000 1,700,000 2,100,00C 2,100,000 * None of these banks operate offices or receiving statione. Mr. Toeing has recently shorn le three lettere which h_e had received within the pest few days from the rupervieing examiner of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation at Madison, wisconsin, offering ieormation frost hiE files in regare to prospectivP members, are I gathere41 that Mr. Taming considers this a notable advance on the part of the Corporation toward cooperation with the Reserve Bank. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Very truly youre, (SIGNED) L. A. A. Sieme Federal Reserve Examiner. ;el Form F. R. 131 BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM Office Correspondence To From Messrs. BlAimer, Dreibelbis, Tingfield, Thurston, and Bryan C. E. Cagle Date November 1 , 1937. Subject: On page 1 of American Banker, November 13, 1937, arpears an article headlined: "F. R. Regulations on Purcl'ases of Securities Proven Sound - J. F. T. O'Connor". The article anpearing thereunder, dated El Paso, Texas, November 12, starts off: "The Federal Reserve Board's regulations governing the purchase of investment securities by national and State member banks have been proved sound in the light of decline of the bond market, Comptroller of the Currency J. F. T. O'Connor declared today, in an address to a bankers' meeting here". Further poragraphs in the article itself do not show that such regulations are issued by the Comptroller Of the Currency, not the Federal Reserve Board. In all probability the Conptroller's speech made very clear that his office promulgated the regulations. This seems to be a very good illustration of the confusion which arises out of a lack of system of Federal bank surervision under at least three Federal agencies. If intelligent and accurate reporters and editors of such an outstanding organ as the American Banker are unable to distinguish between the actions and responsibilities of the respective Federal supervisory agencies and print such front-page articles as above indicated, is it to be expected themselves, that the general public, and possibly a large number of bankers to arpeal to would not bqo confused at times with respect to which agencies responsibility for for counsel, advice, or assistance or upon which to place failure to exercise proper supervision? https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Form F. R. 131 BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM Office Correspondence To _ Mr. Blattner From C. E. Cagle Date Noveaber Subject: , 193'7_ \c_ The draft of letter to Presideat Hamiltoa at Kansas City, replyiag to letter dated October 26, 1937, from C. K. Suderman, vice president of the Midland National Bank, Newton, Kansas, addressed to the Comptroller of the Curr,,ncy and referred to the Board of Goveraors for reply, illustrates three points which have been consid ered in the bank suspension study; namely, (1) lost motion by the superv isory authoriies, (2) confusion to bankers, Irld (3) the diffic ulty or impossibility of coveriag in the laws or regulations every little detail with respect to the operations of a bank, emphasizing the common sense in the recommendation that the supervisory authorities be given brol3d authority to examine and su?ervise banks in the light of sound banking '— rather than in accordaace with technical, legal defiai tions and restrictions or limitations which are often easily evaded by certain types of people, both baakers and supervisory authorities. The principal facts in this case may be briefly summarized as follows: three executive officers of the bank owned 650 of the 800 shares of common stock of the corporation until Januar y 1939, when they transferred to their wives all of their holdings except about 25 per cent of their combined holdings, leaving them the malt); shareholders. It is ' now proposed to change the corporation into a partnership, ostensibly for the purpose of avoiding certaia taxes. In all probability the corporation h s been and is under the real ownership and control of the three execut ive officers, and doubtless the company, as a partnership, will contin ue to occupy the same position. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis December 1, 1937. 19MMORANDITY When Mr. Suderman Eets the reply to nis letter, if as per the 'ila-LaA4laki draft modified as suggested by lia4-410effleter44c memorandum, he may or may not write back to the Board, depending upon rhether he wants to reach his own conclusion as to the transfer beinE bona fide, etc. If he de- cides to write back to the Board setting forth any additional facts thich are not definitely requested, he may expect to get a reply thereto by the Board. It would seem, under the present set-ur, that it vould be proper for the Comptroller of the Currency to make the ruling pursuant to the nossible next reouest by Mr. Suderman inasmuch as a national bank is involved. The Board's letter is regarded here as en interpretation of the regulation which the Board was responsible for making, pursuant to the lew. In the case of national banks, it does not quite seem proper, and certeinly should not be a definite responsibility, for the Board to rule on specific cases because such rulinE would require the Board to accept the statements made by the complainant or make its own investiEation of the facts. The Comptroller of the Currency's examiners are in a position to make such investigt,tion of the facts in this particular case, 63 in the case of all othor national banks which are deemed to be necessary. However, it is obvious that the Comptroller of the Currency might not be quite satisfied with the Board merely actin as an interpretatRr in the case and at the same time placing upon the Comptroller the responsibility for actually makinE the ruling. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Certeinly the banker can not fully understand such a situation. Proposed reply to letter of October 26 from the Midland National Rank, Newton, Kansas, re Reguletion O. December 1, 1937. NR. PAULGM: It is sugg4sted that somethina like the following be substituted for all but the first two sentences of the next to the last paragrnph: "Therefore, the provisions of the ',2i,ordi a Reguletion 0, issued pursuant to section 22(A), are not mplicable to loans to a partnership in which executive officers of bank do not in feet own a mejority interest. In the C8S9 under consideration, the questien ef whether the discounts for the financins company after its csnversion into a partnership will come under the provisions of section 22(g) and the Boerd's Regulation 0 will depend upon whether the transfer by the executive officers of a substentiel part of their interests to their wives is en ectual bona fide transfer. A mere transfer for record purposes uneer arrangements whereby the executive officers actually retein th., majority interest ir the partnership roulu not be sufficient, in the opinion of the Board, to exempt loans to the partnership from the provisions of section 2210 and the Boerd's Regulation O." The principal reasons for the essisted chlui6e 1. A definits rulina has been resulsted in a specific cese an it would seem that P rulinca 6r interpretetion is les order ens not a mere *no objection." E. Th9 Law clearly states thnt section 2264) does not apply to loans to e nertnership in which executive officers have less than a mejority interest. 'billy shouldn't we say that if in fact the esecutive officers do own less than majority interest, the Board's reauletion likewlse is not applicable. 3. It *does not seem thst a substantial increase in tha renount of pnper discounted by the bank for ths financina institution has a hearing on the question of whether ths discounts are subject to the provisions of section 22(g). 4. As drafted, the letter mivht be reearded as extendina a special fevor in this case which would not be extended to others in similar circumstances. Incidentally, an officer of r national bent writes to the Comptroller of the Currency for a ruling pertainina to the operations of e nntionel bank. The Cemptroller refers the inquiry to the Rot:4rd and so edvises the officer of the netionel bnnk. The Board edvisos the officer thnt it has received the inquiry and will. eive it consideration. Eventuelly the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City will answer the question. Is this anothsr ride on the *Washington Merry-go-round?" In the circumstances, wouldn't it be better for the Board to reply direct to the officer of the national bps:1k? https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis RFL CEC irli4rm F. R. 131 BOARD OF GOVERNORS 0 F TH E FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM Office Correspondence T. Mr. Blattner From Date December 1Fr, 1937. Subject: C. E. Cacle , Illustrative of the exdence, trouble, and confusion inciOent to the continuation of more than one Federal bank supervisory acency in Washinr!ton is the proposed letter attached to the file "430.201 - Durfee, B.M.C., Trust Company, Fall River, Massachusetts". The letter deals —ith the liberalization of Form 220B, affiliate reports. The answer vas drafted apparently some time ago and had been initialed by six of the Board's staff (some of them bigwigs) when it TES withdrawn from circulation and amended, apparently around December 9, as indicated by Mr. Wingfield's memorandum to the files. As oriJinally drafted, the letter contained no reference to a note, secured in part by Government bonds, being exempted to the extent of the security. Before reaching the oriEinal conclusion, the Comptroller of the Currency had been invited, under date of September 9, to indicte his willingness to participate in a conference and discussion of the matter. He replied on September 15 that he was willing and auggested that the Board's staff fix a date. This was done and several representatives from the Comjtroller's office were invited down on the fixed date and after wrangling a conclusion VaiS reached and proper correspondence passed be- tween the Board and the Comptroller's office as to the definite conclusion being agreeable to both offices. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis k Yr. Blattner - (2) December 13, 1937. Subsequent to that, before any rulings had been sent out, someone conceived the idea of amending the conclusion or the interpretation thereof. This necessitated resubmitting the matter to the Comptroller's office for agreement. The Comptroller indicated the change wlas satisfactory to him and now perhaps the final conclusion can be sent out, unless someone else gets a brain storm. I notice from the file that Mr. Smead wrote a memorandum to the Board under date of August 5 recommending that the Comptroller's office be asked to discuss the matter. The letter actually rent out September 9. After the Comptroller replied that he would be agreeable to conferences, a conference between several of the Board's staff and several of the Comptroller's staff evidently was arranged. This whole case started away back in 1936, predicated upon a note attached to Schedule 0 which the bank submitted as of June 30, 1936, stating that it did not regard the com2anies mentioned as affiliates. After much wTengling, the bank reached the conclusion th2t it would withdraw from membership before it would publish reports of the affiliates which were borrowing heavily, but secured entirely by Government bonds. The excess loans did not constitute a violation but failure to publish reports a)parently did. The bank finally indicated thLt it would not with- draw from membership but would wait to be kicked out. The files indicate that the only grounds for kicking the bank out of membership woulc be the failure to submit or publish affiliate reports because of loans by the bank to the affiliates secured entirely by Government bonds when the affiliation https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Blattner - (3) December 13, 1937. was due entirely to a majority of the small boards of directors of the companies being also members of the large board of directors of the trust com:pany. Incidentally, the president of the bank seemed to be tied into most of the affiliates and his family name was also involved in most if not all of them. The corporations had very small boards. This illustrates my contention that in many cases the chailman, the president, and a vice president of a bank, all of whom would be on its board,ceuld constitute the board of directors of en affiliate which might be borrowing heavily from the bank by virtue of the large extent of control of credit policies of the bankLI " ;4 -Y1 ! The amendment as drafted exempting the affiliate in case the interlockinf ,directorates do not constitute more than one-fourth of the directors of the bank appears to me to be largely theoretic al. I also fail to see much logic in waiving affiliate reports where advances are secured by Government bonds rhen advances secured by equally good State, municipal, or American Tel. & Tel. bonds or stable commodities are not likewise exampted. Of course, it appears to be a desire lf,az all Federal bank super- visory agencies to give preference to Government bonds end give no consideration to State or industrial bonds or other readily marketabl e collateral. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis DEPARTfENT OF BANKING ) REGULATIONS OFFICE OF THE SIPERINTENDENT OF RA7KING ) \CD By virtue of the authority vested in and responsibility imposed. tr; him by Section 9140 of Chapter 412 of the 1935 Code of Iowa, and in order to pramotto mere efficient banking, better protect the interest of depositors. creditors, stockholders, and the public, and facilitate examinations, the following regulAtions are issued by the Superintendent of Banking, with the approval of the State Banking Board, effective Janlar) L 1938. 11REGULATION 1 - BOOKS AND RECORDS: In addition to the usual and customary books and records kept by Af.r.11 hftnk, the following are required to be kept: A. A permanent record must be kept of all securitles bought or https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis sold. Also there must be retained for review by Examiners, all original invoices of purchases and sales of securities. The record must show dates of purchases and sales, interest rates. maturities. par value, cost value. all write ups or write downs, a full description of the security, from Whom Tmrchased, to whom sold, selling price. and when, where and why pledged or deposited. A permanent daily record must be kept of all Cash Items held aver from the day's business, including all checks that wouia cause an overdraft if handled in the regular way. Items drawn on banks in same city or.tovn with your bank and held for clearance the following day are not included in the above requirement. C. All checks shall be charged to the proper account upon tsio Aso. honored and a permanent daily record suet be kept of all overdrafts created. An overdraft is an illegal extensien of credit and the courtesy should be grantqd only in extremely deserving cases, and at no time shall the aggregate amount et overdrafts exceed $1.00 per $1,000.00 of ths bank's deposits. 7( REGULATION 2.CREDIT INFORMATIONI https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis A. Financial statements, properly certified, mmst be on file from those directly liable to the bank in an amount in excess af $500.00 which obligations are unsecured, or figured only by endorsements. This applies, also to the endorser rhers such endorsements are the basis of credit. Such financial statements shall be revised or renewed upon renewal or extension of the obligation and no financial statement shall be acceptable as reflecting the financial condition of a borrower at tho expiration of 12 msmths from its date. Inure the endorser is a person of well.bnown finansial standing, a statement signed by three members of the Executive Committee, eetimating his worth, will be acceptable in lieu of a financial statement. B. All real estate given as security to loans of W0.00 or over, whether direotly 9r indirectly plodged, mmst be appraised either by the ixecutive or Loan Committee, er by not less than two persons familiar with real estate values in the community whore the property is located. This appraisal must be in writing, must be dated, must be signed by at least two of the committee -2- or two outside appraisers and be on file in the bank. The appraisal must state the amount of the loan, asselett of prior liens as disclosed by the attorney's title certificate, the assessed value of the property, value of improvements thereon, insurance carried, and taxes due, and should describe the property so it may be easily idsntified. C. An abstract of title, ototInuot, to dsto dhowing position of such loan„ must accompany each deed of truAt or mortgage given as security for loans held by the bank. D. Where stock certificates, or similar seeurities, are accepted as collateral to loans, they must be endorsed and witnessed in ink, or accompanied by a power of attorney signed and witnessed Ln ink. Where such collateral is in the name of another than the maker or endorser of the note, there must be on file in tho bank written authority from the owner permitting tho hypothecation of the collateral. Loans made directly to aarporations must be supported by aertified copies of resolutions of the Board of Directors of the corporation, authorising the making of such loans. F. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis !Anti made directly to partnerships, unless all partners sign the note, must be supported by a declaration by the partners showing the composition of the partnership and the proportionate part owned by each partner. G. Full eredit information on all unlisted securities, now awned or hereafter purchased or tevirel must be secured ate, kept on file in the bank. .3. REGULATION 3 MANAGEMENT: The Laard of Directira of each State Bank, Savings Bank or Trust Company organised under the laws of Tows, are hereby required to conform tr and cotply with the following rules and regulations: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis A. Shall employ only competent and reliable officers and employees. and shall be directly responsible to the Superinterient of Banking for compliance with this regulation. B. Mall at all times meintain safe, sound and conserviAtive policies in the inlystment program and the general conduct of the bank's affairs, and whenever in the opinion of the Superintendent of Banking, an unsafe or tr6und practice or policy exists, failure upon request .1;t17 and satir..te3trtrily correct will be consil'ered a violation of the provisions of Section 9224 of the Code oi Iowa. C„ Shall promptly remove any officer or employee whenever such ,,L.ertion is necessary under Regulation 3-8 or whenever in the c..tnion of the Superintendent of Banking the continued employment of said officer or employs* causes or contributes to an unsafe or unsound condition ar practice in the bank. D. Shall adopt a fair schedule of service Charges, using the Code of charges recommended and promulgated by the Iowa Bankers' Association as the beets. 3sid schedule to he adopted without delay - and become effective not later than January 1, 1938. rieht to make an erctlrtion to this regulation is reelrve0 provided any State satisfectorily slim it hme direct 4 competition with a National or Private Bank which will not adopt a fair service charge schedule. E. Shall be rosponsible for strict compliance with the following provisions of tho 1935 Code of Iowa: Soction 9219 f:ection 9220 -relating to Officers' and Directors' Compemsat or -relating to Authority for Directors' or Offirlers Loans. Section 9223 -relating to Limitations upon Loans. Section 9224-cl -relating to Examining Committee Reports. Section 9283-cl.relating to Authority for Officers ar Emplgeos to engage in other business for remunerat,n, .. F. Dizre,Tard or violation of any of the foregoing sections of the ::!ode will be considerod as causing or contrtbuting to an unsafe or unsound condition under Regulations 3-B and 3-C. G. The Examining Committee shall have access to the last Examiner's Report whethor made by this Department or the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, upon each occasion of its examination of the affairs of the bank. H. No State Bank, Savings Bank or Trust Company shall hereafter be granted a Charter unless its capital shall be sufficient to qualify it for membership in the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Vo State Bank, Savings Bank or Trust Company shall hereafter contract to purchase, lease, erect or equip a building for banking use ure'l cc”lsent of the Superintendent of Banking i) In”eg',„3rit of capital funds has been obtained. Z.ne purchase) speculative or defaulted bonds shall constit,;te an unsound practice under sub.division "B" and "C" of this regulation. witness my hand and official seal this 26th day of November, 1937, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Superintendo.tt of BankiLg Memorandum to Examinersillkiewina,,Re•ports of Examinatial. Analyses Thereof The Federal Reserve Board is deeply concerned in seeing that the State merkper '1%phks are bein operated in a conservative manner and arc in sound condition,and this connection, the following paragraphs arc iuotect from the Board's letter of July 26, 1930, X-6665, with regard to thu .dolicy of the Board in respect to the examination of member banks: "If the Federal reserve agent has evidence in the form of letters or otherwise, that officers and directore of State member banks have had their attention called to violations of the law und une:ound banking practices by State authorities, it is not necessary for the agent to duplicate this work. "If this supervision is not conducted by State uuthorities the Federal reserve agent is directed to take such action, as in his opinion, will discharge the responsibilities of the Board. "When a State member benk fails to correct irregularities within a reasonable time so as to show material improvement in its condition, the Federal reserve agent will be expected to lay the information before the directors of his bank and ask them to mAce u formal recommendation to the Federal Reserve Board, with reasons, as to whether or not the State member bank should continue as u member." Inasmuch as the Foderra Reserve Board is not the immediute supervisory e_uthority of State member banks, necessary correspondence prepared in connection with the review of reports of examintetion or analyses thereof should not at this time attempt to cover minor matters of criticism which do not affect the sound condition of the bank. Correspondence in general should cover only those points upon which the Federal Reserve Agent should obtain correction. The Board has a definite responsibility in seeing thut the provisions of the Federal Reserve Act, the Banking Act of 1933, the Regulations of the Federal Reserve Board, and the conditions of membership are being complied with. The Board also is desirous that State member banks are operated in accordance with the laws of the State. Accordingly, violations of the laws under which the bank is operating, regulations of the Board, or of the conditions of membership, should be made the subject of correspondence. The Board has frequently taken the position, and so expressed itself in writing, that a bank's statement should reflect the true condition of the bank and that losses https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis should be eliminated from the bank's assets, and in cases where 1.1014 - 2estimated losses are of any i:iiportance, information shcuh, developed as tp the action taken by the bank with respect to their elimination, and, if satisfactory disposition has not been made, the Federal Reserve Agent should be requested to endeavor to obtain correction. When a bank is in a generally satisfactxy condition and estilaLted losses are relatively small and are covered by undivided prufits and/or applicable reserves, kt will not bc necessary to v,rite specially regarding the disiJositiAl ef zuch losses. If, however, in such cases, other points are tu bu covered in the currespendence, the question as to thu fcti)n taken in respect t, the elimination of losses may properly be included. In connection with the elimination of losses, the Board has not considered that a reserve for losses, shown in published statements as a part of the capital structure, is a proper offset against assets which should be eliminated. Such reserves are proper provision only for future losses. Section 30 of the Banking Act places a definite responsibility upon the Federal Reserve Agents for preventing directors or officers of a State member bank from violating any law relating to such bank or from engnging in unsafe or unsound practices in the conduct of the bank's business. Section 4 of the Federal Reserve Act requires that Federal Reserve banks shall keep themselves informed of the generai credit policy of its member banks and requires the chairmen of the Federn1 reserve banks to report to the Board any undue use of bank credits for speculative purposes or for any other purpose inconsistent with the maintenance of sound credit conditions. These sections, particularly, should be kept in mind in revielidng reports. Whether or not correspondence should be prepared, of course, is a matter of judgment and no definite rules can be laid down. It is advisable, however, so far as possible, to limit the discussion in the letters to the importnt points,such as Losses Violations Unsafe and unsound practices. In many cases it may be advisable, after discussing the major matters, to https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 6 • • - 3 - ask the Agent in his reply to reloort en the corroctic,n which have been iride in the other unsatisfactory features. R. 2. L. April 14, 1934. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis FEDERAL RESEEVE BANK OF SAN FFANCISCO February 26, 1934 Mr. I. L. Smead, Chief, Division of Bank Operations, liederal Reserve Board, Washington, D. C. Dear Ir. Smead: I have been reviewing the variety of conditions under whirr) , there have been granted admission to membership in the Federal Res( tem, temporary voting permits, and authority to reduce common stock. It is noticed that the requirements pertaining to the writingoff of criticized assets vary (mite considerably. I have before me three cases, for instance: No. 1 requires the removal of (a) depreciation in securities not in the four hij-hest Frade:; (b) doubtful assets. (This pertains to reouest for a voting permit as well as permission to reduce common stock following the issuance of oreferree.) No. reouires the removal of (a) depreciation in securities not in the four hiEhest grades; dors not reouire the removal of t3) doubtful assets. No. 3 does not require the removal either of (a) depreciation in securities not in the four hip-hLL (b) doubtful assets. The most liberal trettment appears to have been accorded the Iasi mentioned, which a large bank in bad condition. It would simplify the difficulties of under which btate banks may become members, or the of capital stock or voting permits, if some system removal of deoreciation in securities in the lower assets and losses. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis those orescribing conditions conditions governin reductiu were devised for the autompti grades as Tell es If this were done, banks not asking for admission to membership, 151(15 ivir. , E L. Smead - - 2 February 26, 1934 voting permits or capital reduction, would be governed by the same set of rules. The best ray to solve the nroblem and to remove particularly the possible charge of discrimination would be to have call re')orts and published statements prepared in such manner es to reclaire elimination of assets of the character herein discussed. Bankr which consistently resist examiners and supervisors would have to ponder the elimination of bad assets or subject themselves to the conseeuences of publishing false statements of condition. Yours very truly, (sgd.) Ira Clerk Deputy Governor. 1,7 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis \I \ (1 Januery 1,111 144 ' Capital Motes Pullman State Bank, WashIneton Mr, Paulgoer lir. Cagle Lf. I This relater to the c(mtents of b. letter signed by George H. Gannon, Cashier ef the Pullman State Bank, dated December 18, 19315, wherein it is proposed that 480,000 of capital notes sold to the R. F. C. ere to be included in eurplus and reserves on the boAo and publiehed statementa of that beak• Prom the corresondence it appears that this method of uhowing the capital notes ir resorted to an account of the feet thet the Aate Supervisor of Banking, under advice of his attorney general, her decided that e reduction in the common cajtal in not neceesery or deeirable and that the debentures may be included in the caAtal structure without increeping the total stated value of the ce.:itel account on the statements. In connection with the Spokane end Eastern Truet Company voting permit case (a purt of' the Northwest Bancor2oration grcup), the question af including caelitel notes az a part of the capital account of the bank without reducing the par velue of the shares outstanding vas raised and discussed et considerable length with Me. Thomson, President of Northwest Nanwerporation, his General Counsel, and the President of the SpOhane hank, These gentlemen did coneidere. able telephoning to the authorities in leshingten on this object before anyrecommendations with respect to e voting permit were sent by the Division of Examinetiona to the Board. It irb$ decided that the Spokane and Eastern Trust Comny wauld be required to reduce the number of shares of common stock outstanding so that the total amount of capitel shown on its bookm end ito published statements, consistIng of capital metes and the remaining common stook, would be equivalent to the par value ef tbe eortificates issued , https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis irt,4116 Ars ?tulger - 2 V26/r4 ‹.n0 ,Yutstanding. This was contrary to the rulinfe and Arne of the Supervisor (Jf BAnkinv in the State of Washington. La the Pullman State Mak cue et heed the groposal, evidentlx sanctioned by the State Supervieor of Bonking, whereby the liability for the oapital notes is to be hidden in rumbas anki reserves is, in my opinion, a much m:)re serious misstatement or false statement than the original ilroposal in the Epokane case, where the capital notes nee to be included in the eapital *comet with en explanatory footnote. In the Pullman case person readimg the published state- ment would naturally be mislead by the comparatively large overstatement of sur,lus and reserves, their proposition being to not *barge off any items of Moe or de,xeciztion at thf present time resulting In a total showing of sur,lue undivided profits and reserves of t70,00k), which a:lount includes the tS0,0 1 of capital notes sold to the R. F. C. If there are $50,000 of losses in tab. emote of the Pullman State Bank which are not chx,rged off, there exists an impairment of capital to the extent of 1150,000, there being $100000 of capital cartifioates and notes outetanding as compared with '120000 capital structure accounts, lose $150,000 of lossee not deducted. Thie is the raw amount of capitol impairmemt as would be shown by the statement if the ct2ital notee were set u therein and the $5.),000 of losses were charged out of the .iialance sheet, resulting La a change of surplua from $20,000, as it existed before the sale of the capital notes, to a $50,000 "red" balance in surplus. If the State bupervisor of Banking does not desire the shares of comion stook to be reduced an account of the double lihbility feature, which ie regarded as adding strength to the bank, then shatever strength there is in the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Mr. Paulger - 3 ita/ doable liability feature should be called upon, instead of reeortinF to the sales of capital notcs to replenish tha capitol accounts. Amy sanction of the plan indicated in Mr. Gennones letter of December leth would involve the sanction of 1. continuance of an impaired copital, 2. conceament of im, ,)aired capital, 3. false understatement of a future liability (if not present), 4. false avsestatsmsat of surplus aseammt, and amy statement showing the capital acesaats as proposed in the letter woule be grossly misleading to a ?roapective purchLs-r of the stock, ?resent kale prospective depositors, and the public in general. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The following paragraph was contained in a letter from Governor Eccles to Governor W. I. Myers of the Farm Credit Administration under date of June 17, 1935: https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis "As you know, under the existing multiplicity of supervision to vthich the banks of this country are sub— jected, there is a natural feeling on the part of the banks that they are being 'reported to death'. It is hoped that, through a uniform report, banks can furnish more vcorth while information hereafter and with less time and effort than heretofore, particularly if there is no duplication in the forms of reports submitted to the various super— visory authorities." Aerof 1 74i_r 44f.ti /pat https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis .3,644uttc • 1508 TI12.,:s': . HOR.IrTT DR.21737:1B IS SOL01.10N BLA.T.Tiv72. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Study / 1 /o/1/ 00-ORMIATI4 9.1 Ma& BANKM APICIR4 Al Egencies are to be Assuming that all bankine functions of reder the Peder-1 centered in a single Federal authority. preemmably der the following: Reserve Board (or some substitute agency) - consi 1. 2. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis the Ifederal Reserve tstablish TDIC as An agency subordin,Ae to the sole nurcose for up set cial Board but with separate finan : funds ance of administering derosit insur a. rOrganize deposit insvrance on district basis, cente . ing in the iieserve BRuks b. sion Tstablish district tneurknce funds with some provi . funds for re-insurRnce Ell between &R an agency of tne Xstablish a Federal management corporation cial set up Federal Reserve Board Out with a separate finan for the yurpose of: a. b. c. d. o. andTaking over the banking activities of RIC (and outst delilui to view a with s) tment ing bank loans and inves tion or continuance. ve Conducting authorised activities of Federal Reser etc. in field of industrial loans. 10B 'ohne. of Advancing capital funds tnd talking over management to a banks whose cvpits1 funds have become impaired law. by degree to oe specified "c Conducting limidation operations incidental to part of the FDIC ulan. and now t{ with mergers Undertaking promotional work in connection a view to expeand the establishment of brPnches with diting where necessary the elimination of fr,cilities in 'rine 2. over-banked communities and the establishment of propriAte facilities in under-banked communities. 3. Center all examination and supervisory activities in the Federal lieserve Board under au administrative officer with full power WU ject to judicial review and determination of policies by the Federal heserve Ioard. This official and his ore--nization would be responsible for: s. The administretion of sll examination and supervisory work of the Fedora] Reserve Board. b. Co-ordination of examination activities and the activities of the Federal management corporation by direct partici.ation in or as head of that corporation. 4. On the assumption that unification should go beyond the field of commercial banking, provision should also be made for further co-ordination of Federal agencies, at least to the extent of giving the Federal Reserve Board representation on organization of the Farm Credit the Home Loan Bank Board and in Administration. It is apparent from the above outline that with this set up there would be little occasion for Ogden gills' colment to the effect that there were not slificiant duties for Federal i_eserve members to attract men of the highest calibre to the Board. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis FEDERAL Federal Reserve Banks BOARD Administrative Officer in Charge of Examiwition and Supe sion Examination of all banks Management or Participation in the management of the Federal Management Corporation b) c) d) Or https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis RESERVE e) Banking activities (and investments) of R.F.C. Federal reserve industrial loans, 10b loans, etc. Provide capital funds and take over banks with impaired cPpital. Liquidation of banks under FDIC and (c) above Promotional work in connection with mergers and branches in localitiep with inadequate banking facilities Manager of FDIC Administration of insurance funds. r November 6 l9NNt 1.2 Costs of Examinatio s. Ir. Pattlger C. E. Cagle The matter of making a survey of the costs of examinations of banks, which I discussed with you in more detail on November 4, has been eonsidered further. I am more convinced that as nearly accurate and definite figures as possible relative to the costs of examinations per bank and per $1,000,000 of resources by the various agencies in different sections of the country would be a very valuable weapon, both offensively and defensively. As I stated to you, it is my understanding that many of the officers of the reserve banks are more or less definitely aware of the fact th' t sonsideration is being given to centralizing aad revamping the banking ipotesi, especially examinations and supervision. Even if this situation did not prevail, I still believe that it would be advisable to gather as oemplets information as possible relative to examination and sunervision ?nses by the various agencies and carefully estimate the number of mcp, persons who could be eliminated and the amount of savings in dollars which could be effected by a reorganization. Having definite cost figures and being able to show wherein several millions of dollars could be saved annually woull be convincing to many bankers who otherwise night strongly oppose a consolidation movement. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis c MEMORANDUM Liam dusbands, of tne R.F.C., just telephoned me to state that the R.F.C. had, aE of September 50, 1.66, preferred stock, capital notes and debentures r follows: 182.5 national banks preferreo stock 145 member State banks preferred stock 188 member State banks debentures & notes 026,274,449.69 63,370,772.33 75,574,500.00 1439 nonmember State banks preferred stock notes 1907 nonmember State banks debentures 5504 104,164,104.n 11%492,050.00 t682,875,876.37 He etated that all of the banks have deposit insurance except approximatell 8 mutual savings banks; in New York State and 3, banks in Puerto Rico. He stated tnat under the contracts the F.I.C. has a right to examine all banks and ulso the ri),:ht to change the management in a great number of the banks (the exact number not rerdily available to him), usually when the R.F.C. puts in more capital than the souno capital of the other stockholders. He further stated that having the right to change the management in the- contracts did not mean a great deal because the Corooration usually acts in all easea where things are not being handled properly, whether it 'as b specific agreement about changing management or not. He stated that it was the Corporation's policy not to designate any particular person, but merely to request the bank to hire its own management satisfactory to the R.F.C. C.E.C. 10-17-56 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis CROSS-11a'.a4ENCE SHEETS E" EMPIRE FOLDER Better folders for better files 300S Send your Order to the nearest "Y and E" Representatives or to our Horne Office YAWMAN AND ERBE MFG.0. Ma:a Factories aid Executive Graces ROCHCSTER, N. Y. Branches and Agenls in ail rrincixd 9 CR,SS REFERaiCE "SUGGESTED SMALL BANK METGERS ARuUSE TUMuRS IN :iiID-EST AR&A" https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis American Banker, Dec.10, 1937 See File # 7 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Form 156 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS REFERENCE SHEET File No. 9 "Over 100 House Members Back Patman Plan on 12 F. R. Banks" American "Ranker, April a7, =7- Subject SEE File No. -7A Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis U. A. onvinimmr MINTING firma. loaf FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Form 156 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject 9 "FDIC Holds $20 Million of Assets in U. S. B8nks" AMERICAN BANKER, December 11, 1936 SEE File No. Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis U. N. 00V..N WWW OPTIC. ten • FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Form 156 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject "State Board Opposed to Int3rstte Branch Bnks" N.Y.State Body Inttmntes Lack of Co—Operation by Ccmotroller and Other Federal Agencies. American Bnnker, January 8, 1937 SEE File No. Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD Form 156 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject "State. Bank Sup.arvi-s-o-r-s- -Gpp-o,s-et .S-. -on 13-r-Rn-ch-e-s-n American Banker -February 3, 1937 SEE # 12 File No. Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I/. 011V.. .. V PRINTING orrics7 191, 9 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject Cli.weiL,pageo 56-76 IV= Luna Ilk& Rata= ty Collins (Ch. VZI *City Bkg. SEE File No. otia Letter of Dated _ Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ;i 110,11M11217'amnia omor 1933 178151 1601 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. _ Subject _CUpped_lagai__47.44__b_gclural_lits. norm 1:7 Cfa, imp SEE File No. AWA Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis s. eoveertreicr P111,171140 orrice: 1933 178151 IA02 5-21-36 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject 9 Deposit Insurance - by Lauchlix Currie asciatad-Avilartin:Krast memorandum prepared by the Viner study group. SEE File No. _Study #7 Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis U. 3. 00911041191.11 . norm.)OFFICIE: 1933 178151 iGn4 6446 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject ftetirpta on WM* of lionorable Jo Covityttalatte -Or billaciere At-1;0001as 1.950 Fe 9 To O.COMM, birame the Catforsts, ilisiesettoo Calif* en Stay AI SEE File No. .tuer Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis u. s. eovicamrENT earwax° uric': ion 178151 iGt15 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject Address: by Carl K. Withers-Commissioner of Banidng and rnsurence, State of New Xersey at the Pa. likers Assoc. kialantic City May 22, 1936 "Supervision - What kind and how much?" SEE File No. 6 Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis u. e. GOYERNME-NT nu-wry-No orncr: 1933 178151 Ig06 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject _ 9 $Peeoh Tos_KA__Elai_thp_ First Vice _Prnsident.of__A.__B.__A.* bafore Oklahoma Bankers Association, May 18, 1956 SEE File No._ S:tudy Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis t 00VIII ?I V ENT ritrvrrro orricr: loss 178151 lAn7 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. Subject 9 Clipping from the American Banker1 June 41 19361 "Codifying U. S. Banking Law." SEE File No. Study /16 Letter o Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis u. oovsxmurtrr rancrrsa orncr: 1933 178151 1“n8 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No.19B subject =Mai tan /MCA MD;ttepteabor 113, Me, enallial Ailkit -Tax Unite SEE File No. -A Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 11 11 oovemgmesT rRiNTnto orrict 1933 178151 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No. 9B Subject suispowesmatcassmaksrarseg ink 17• a• boar nor wavelkuir lissiberettip Sa SEE File No. Au Letter of -------------------------- Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis u. e. Govsamenrr unncrturo orricr: 1033 178151 THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD CROSS-REFERENCE SHEET File No Subject Clipping-from --PSIMICALW.1172,1--teptstsber -1-4p 1474.---Maaapendant Bari.t,.,rse Revolutions CaLl for releption to A. B. 414 Camentions Cut in Postal Savings Rata, FDIC Cheep SEE File No. Letter of Dated Remarks https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 9 II . S. oovuoiurrr mum.orncr: 1933 178151 9 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis SP EECIM EMPIRE FOLDER Better folders for better files 306S Send your Order to the nearest "Y and E" Representatives or to our I-Erne Office YA-WMAN FREE MFG.C9. AND MaIn Factories and Execut!ve ROCHESTER, N. Y. Branches and ALculs in all Principal CLies 4 FEDERAL DEPOSIT iNSURANCE CORPORATION WASH!NGTON FOR RELEASE AFTER 12:00 NOON, C.S.T., THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 1937 https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis ADDRESS OF HONORABLE LEO T. CROWLEY CHAIRMAN, FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION BEFORE THE MEMBERS OF THE KENTUCKY BANKERS ASSOCIATION LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY SEPTEMBER 23, 1937 ADDRESS OF HON. LEO T. CROWLEY, CHAIRMAN, FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION, BEFORE THE MEMBERS OF THE K7NTUCKY BANKERS ASSOCIATION AT THEIR ANNUAL COMIENTION LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY SEPTELMER 23, 1937 GOVERNMENTAL SUPERVISION OF BANKS AND BANKING I. The necessity for supervision II. Thc objectivcs of supervisicn III. IV. V. VI. VII. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis The tools of supervision Has supervision succeeded? Factors affecting the efficacy of supervision A. Failurc to maintain sound bank supervisory policies unremittingly regardless of fluctuating economic conditions B. Inadequate control over banking practices C. Inadequate control over expansion in the banking system D. Failure to recognize essential similarity between circulating notes and bank deposit currency E. Primacy of political and personal considerations in supervisory decisions F. Banking reforms in this country have boon curative rather than preventive Recent steps towards improvement Bankers determine extent of supervision L DEPOSIT INSURANCE ADDRESS OF HON. LEO T. CROWLEY, CHAIRMAN, FEDERA KY BANKERS ASSOCIATION KENTUC THE OF S CORPORATION, BEFORE THE MEMBER AT THEIR ANNUAL CONVENTION SEPTEMBER 23, 1937 LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY GOVERNMENTAL SUPERVISION CF BANKS AND BANKING nr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: It is pleasant to be able tc meet with you today, the courtesy of your invitation. I appreciate It is my belief that bank supervisors isory policies have erred in failing to keep bankers informed of superv shown a curious and procedures, and that bankers, in their turn, have lack of interest in the why and the how of bank supervision. Certainly their busibankers should be interested in the ar;encies which regulate nesses. superLtkewise, attempts at supervision are fruitless unless bankers visors enjoy the confidence and respect of bankers and unless achieve. knrm and sympathize with the ends supervisors are trying to I s some of the feel, therefore, that opportunities such as this to discus . policies and problems of bank supervision are mutually advantageous The Necessity For Supervision be wise Before we begin to evaluate bank supervision it might is necessary in the to ask why such an elaborate system of bank supervision on. United States and to attempt a brief answer to that questi In this con- this supervinection let us take a look at the banking structure to which sion applies. We know that no other banking system in the world is subject be something quite to such stringent regulation; there must, therefore, https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 2 - unique about the American system. Our banking system, unlike those of other countries, today consists for the most part of thousands of unit banks, each independently managed. It can bo said that this strlIcture grew naturally in response to tho peculiar demands of our rapid and gigantic economic development during the nineteenth century. It was not entirely happenstance that free unit banking should have continued to flourish in the United States while amalgamation was combining the units in ether countries into what we know today as Britain's "Bi:7 Five", Italy's "3ig Throe", and France's "Big Four". The fear of monopoly on the part of the American people has been evident in every stage of the evolution of our banking structure. Our desire to have banking facilities available has always been tempered by a fear that the control of money and credit might become concentrated in too fuw hands. Popular opinion has almays su-pported continuation of the unit systom, and that system was firmly established by passage in 1863 of thc National Bank Act. There is no reason to believe that, without this unique popular pressure, our system would differ today in any essential respects from the morc common monopolistic systems of tho world. Public opinion, then, has endorsed and perpetuated the unit system, and factors inherent in thu system havo necessitated an overgrowing body of law and regulations. The relative smallness and omnipresence of the units engendicr competitive factors which load to unsound practices. If the system is to be preserved, supervision of its structuro and of its activities must continuo. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 3 Tho Cbjoctivos of Supervision To understand the growth of our system of supervision of the banking businoss, wo must also recognizc the quasi-public nature of the banking functicn. If a bank is chartered to ronder financial service to thc peoplo of a community, thc chartering authority has tho fight and duty of assuring thu faithful performance of that sorvicc. In this capacity thc supervisor undertakes to assure that tho sorvice is ronderod at a fair cost, to keep its quality adcquato, to assist chartered institutions to rceivo u fajr rate of return on tho investment of private capital which they reorcsont, and to discourage unforoseen interruptions in service. He Lis° undertakes to maintain a financial structure adequate to satisfy tho thrift, credit, and general banking needs of the pcople he serves. The primary purpose of our banking supervision, however, has always boon to protLet th. creditors of banks from pecuniary loss. The importance of thiF responsibility has not changed, in spite of fundamental shifts in tho relative importance of various types of bunk nbligations. You will recall thlt prior to aeout 1860 tho circulating mcdium in this country ras composed chiefly of the circulating notes issued by banks. Tho importanco of the priviloge of issue during this period is forcefully dcmonstrated by thc virtual extinction of State bunks through that provision of thc National Bank Act which levied a ten percent tux upon the notos of other than national banks. A minimum of bank suporvision was sufficient to assurc the maintenanco at par of their circulating notes by banks in view of the 100 percent reserves. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 4 - Tho gradual change in our national cconomy from local or rcrional solf-sufficioncy toward national and international trade brought about an attondant shift from circulating notes to demand deposits as tho important circulating medium. Tho offocts of this shift worc: first, to rcvivo Statu banking systoms and so to gainsay those who bolieved the National Bank Act had created a singlo banking system; and second, to substituto dcmositors for notcholdors as tho chicf croditors of our banks and as tho porsons supnosod to bonefit from Governmontal supervision of the banking systcm, honco tho boginninr of bank supervision as WO now know it. Th. Tools of Suoorvision You rxe all familiar with tho traditional tools of bank supervisiin, th0 i_nstrumonts through which suporvis)rs vrork to 9rotoct depositors from loss, Govornmentol regulation of bara-ing is built upon a statutory oiltlino of Drivilogos and limitations. in with supplomontary This outlino is fillod oxplanatory rulus, intorprotations, and rogulai. tions, promulgatod undor authority of law as thc nood ariss. the suporvisor is prcsumatly rrcntod Finally, rs of onforcomont through the bank examination and oth .r visitorial priviloges and through such authority as ho may have to chartor or to torminate thc affairs of banks under his jurisdiction. A significant dcvolopment during rocont years has boon the tondency of banks to supploment govcrnmontal suporvision with an increasing amount of sc1V-rogulation through thc medium of cloaring house associations and similar professional groups. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 5 - Beyond a brief mention of the bank examination I do not proPosc to burden you with a detLiiled discussion of these supervisory implements. Tho purpose of tho bank examination is to discover and bring to the attention of supervisory authorities and bank directors the true bank which lies book of book figures. Examiners also attempt to appraiso the banking practices and tho management which motivate thc activity going on behind the dosks and in the cages of our banking institutions. It is upon thc findings of examiners that supervisory decisions concerning individual banks must be made. The bank examination should afford an equally valuable guide ror the administrative and policy decisions of bank directors. I doubt that most bank officers and directors roalize what a good thing thcy are prtssing up when thcy give only a cursory reading to tho official reports of examination of their banks. In the oxami- nation report the banker is offered an appraisal of all aspects of his institution representing the best opinion of a disinterested person who could have no reason to bc biased in his analysis. If bankers would realize that the men who aro sont to examine thcir institutions have a background based upon contact with the operations and problcms of hundrods of banks thcy would agree that the ')(timiner's opinion on most matters should be not only sound but frequontly superior to the more localized point of view of the banker himself. Has Supervision Succecdcd? The oxtent to which supervision has protected depositors from the loss of their funds is debatable. I need not remind you that bank failures by thc thousand occurred as recently as thc period from 1920 to https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 6 - 1933. Complete eradication of bank failures in this country will probably always be prevented by a faw factors which cannot be legislated away. There is no reason to believe that the business cycle will vanish in the near future from thc list of economic phenomena, and the business cycle always carries with it a hazard which is unpredictable. Thc personal clement is uncertain and often unreliable and this factor affects 4ur banking structure not only through bank management but perhaps equally through bank supervisors, whose judgment certainly has not in every case been infallible. If I may be permitted an analogy in this connection I should like to point to. the parallel of bank supervision with respect to the failure hasari and buildinr inspecticn in connection with fire hazard. The end in view in each case is to limit the hazard. thought of eliminating the risk entirely. There can be no The best we can hope for in either case is the constant improvement of standards. In each of these cases supervision is primarily for the tenefit of the general public. The building inspection protects the occupants of your .5anking house; tho enforcement of banking regulations protects the creditors of your bank. It is quite pcssiblc that your particular build- ing is cmplotely fire-proof and that the inspection is superfluous; it is equally possible that your institution represents the ideal bank from the point of view of scund capital, scund assets, and the other standards by which croditcr protection is measured. But even if the standards in each case were not constantly chunging--and they are-it would be imperative that all buildings be inspected and that all hanks be examined in order that standards might bc established by which https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 7 - to gauge the safety of othcr buildings or of other banks. Further, there not is no building so fire-proof and no bank so sound that it is affected by general conflagration or catastrophe. It is the function of inspoction and of supervision tn minimize thc possibility for growth into conflagration or catastrophe of isolated fires or failures. Banks arc not cxompt from the failurc hazard which must be facod by investors in any business. It is to be expocted that local economic catastrophes or competition will react just as unfavorably upon tho banker as upon the hardlw.re merchant or the automobile dealer. Supervisory authorities can hardly bc indicted, theroforc, simply because institutions under their jurisdiction arc forced by circumstances to suspend operations and to liquidate. In any recitation of the bank mortality statistics of the 70year poriod from 1865 to 1934, the fact that 20,000 commorcial banks suspendcd operations is of secondary imoortance. Tho really significant statistic is that which reveals that depositors in those banks lost about three and a half billion dollars 4f their funds. This loss rcflects a variety of factors which may bu grmupcd under throc heads: (1) Econlmic or general factors which lic outside the control of individual bankers or bank supervisors: (2) unwise or improper policics or practices on the part of bankers; (3) inadequate or inoffective supervision. I believe the first twc groups of factors roprosent the most important causcs mf bunk failure. I am convinced, however, that proper supervision .wfuld have lessened materially the,lpsses to depnsitc)rs as such. Bank suporvisIrs in the past have not been as forthright and vigorous us they should have been in insisting on having at all timos a true https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 8 - picture of thc conditinn of each of the banks under their supervisi,n. Too often they have tempnrizod wdth situations and altered their standards in individual cases because of some expediency. The result has been self-deception and failure to take actimn in time to prntect prnperly the depnsitnrs' interests. As a consequence, losses accumulated and banks became sc invnlved as tn make it imprssible for them to meet the shock of adverse business conditinns. Above all else it is essential that bank suoervisors have an accurate picture of the state of affairs in each bank. Factors Affecting the Efficcy of Supervision In retrospcct, the failuro of bank supervision better tn accomplish its purposo seems to have rcsulted frnm thc interplay and cumulative effect of many complex economic and pelitical fact^rs. First in impnrtance amnng thcse factnrs I would list tho failure to maintain sound bank supervisory pollicies unremittingzly _roardloss nf fluctuating economic conditions. The most impressive display of the disastrnus possibilities of such a short-cnming occurred during the 20's and the early 30's. During and prior tn the 20's banks accumulated a large velum of assets mf a substandard character. Such assets were undesirable to have in the portfolims and were th,, first to become worthless undor the pressure of adverse economic circumstances. While the supervisors' authnrity tn exercise some control over the character 0f assets has been cmnsiderably loss in the past than the public has generally believed, it is none the less true that supervisors in general were not sufficiently firm in insisting that the banks eliminate their losses and their criticized assets during prospersus times. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Had the banks possessed a better class of assets in the early 30 1 s they would not have hf:d to accontuato the already declining prices by calling questionable loans and dumping low grade securities on the markot, On the othor hand, they would have boen ablc to stand by as a stabilizing influence. Inade uatu control over bankin pr^-ctices is a socond factor which has impaired the efficacy of bank supervision. The actual polico powers of bank supervisory officials have always been somewhat less than is commonly beliovcd. For tho most part, the only statutory weapon grantod sup:rvisors to onforce observcnce by banks of legal roquiromonts has boon to place an offending bank in liquidation. Naturally authorities hositate to apply so drastic a measurc. In the morc nebulous but equally important field of controlling banking practices not defined by law supervisors have until recontly boon absolutely powerless, having to rely for correction nf unsound practicos entiroly upon mrral suasion. Each of you knows that judgment oxercised in the broad field loft to the initiative of bank managors can make ftr broak a bank,. We all have comic in contact with cases whorc unscrupul oous bankers, living within the letter mf thc law, have brought ruin to the dopositors who trusted them and to soundly run ncighboring institutions, thus damaging beyond repair the good name of the banking profession. Yet, evon when supervisors have known of the existence of such dangerous situations in tine to accomplish somc correction rind rehabilitation they have been powerless to act. Inadcluato control Ivor oxpansion in the banking sistemi likewise, has greatly hampered supervisors' efforts to minimize lozses te https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 10 - dopositors. So long as supervisors are required by law to grant charters to all who apply and so long as supervisors' decisions with respect to the advisability of now banking facilities can bc ovorruled by snme person or by some body not familiar with supervisory Policies, banks will fail unnocessarily and depositors will suffor. It is nocessary, too, that the chartering and control of financial institutions other than banks be coordinatod with supervision of banks. The devolcpment of a uniform and effective financial program requires that banks, building and loan associations, credit unions, and all similar thrift and Ilan institutions shall work toward the same ond, under uniform supervision. It is likely that tho failure to recognize the essential similarity between circulating notes and bank deposit currency contribut ed to the loss record of the last seventy years. At any rate, it would 1,0 interesting to know what line of roasening led to the conclusion that circulating notes of banks need bo fully securod by oash or immediate ly convertible securities and that a cash reserve of seven or ten percent offered cemmensurate protection for demand deposits in banks. Another intangible but undoubtedly important factor contributing to tho unsatisfactory rocord cf bank supervision has been the primacy nf political and porsonal considerations in superviso ry decisions. Hcw illogical it is that the supervision of financial institutions, a task calling for infinite ability and fcr long-rang e planning and consistent and impartial execution of policies, should continue in these enlightened timos to be little more than a poorly paid political plum. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Kentucky is fortunate in having so capable a man as Hiram Mlhoit supervising its banks. Fortunately for you bunkers and for depositors, men of ability arc making the same personal sacrifice in most other Statos. But I say 1.3t the renumeration of these men be commensurate wdth their responsibility. Let matt,)rs be arranged so that their tenure of office does not depend on politic'd vagaries. Got good men in those key positi;ns and keep them there. Finally, I catach particular importance to the fact that banking reforms in this country have rllways waited until periods of financial and economic criis made further delay impossible. The reforms have been almost invariably carativ.D rather than preventive—specific rather than fundamental. Thc story of thL deve1;pnent of our bank supervision is a story of repe-Itedly plugging the holes in our dike without seeming to realize that its foundation rested on quicksand. I quite realize the lazy attraction of "status quo" and the tremendous force of human inertia against change of any kind. However, onc would expect bankers, RS leaders in the business lifc of their communities, to see and to admit shortcomings in thc banking process as these shortcomings bccone evident. It is natural to assume that bankers wnuld realize that thc purprse ,)f proposed reforms is to achieve results, not merely to undertake "chanp4c for change's sake." Yet bankers, on the whole, hfl.ve opposcd vigor,,usly—sometimes even bitterly—every important reform that has boon introduced in this country. How much more valuable would this expenditure of effort have boon if bankers had faced thc facts, subordinated their vested interests, and waded in themselves to achieve a s•lution of thcir problems. And haw much misery and economic waste would have been spared if bankers, supervisors, and legislators had taken the time to work out together a https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 12 - sound oporating busis for the banking system instead cf waiting for economic cLtastrophos to hold up the weaknosses of that system to the shriveling heat of trail by firc and to tho bitter gaze of a disillusioned and impoverished people. These, then, aro some of the major problems which have confronted bank suporvisors. As continuing problcms, for the most part, thcy still occupy our attention and will continuo to do so, probably, short of Utopia. In previous addresses buforc bankers' associations I halm dealt at lcngth wdth thc progress that has been made in recent years and with current efforts to improve thc quality of banking and of bank supervision. Rocent Steps Toward Improvoment Recont banking logislation has been correlated wdth a broad legislativu program aimed at levolling extremes of tho busincss cycle. Broadenod credit and rediscount facilities have boon provided to ease banks through periods of stress. Thc CorporAion has boen granted broad power to'curtail indulgence in unsafe and unsound practices. Not only has a more reasonablo attitude towards the chartering of now banking institutions come into favor, but supervisors arc also attacking the problom of unprofitablc existing institutions through the medium of surveys of the banking ncods of cach State. As a result of those sur- veys it is hopcd we will be able to consolidatO or to relocate institutions with an uncertain outllok. Frank discussion of the problems of banking and bunk suporvision is rcmoving those activities from the realm of mystery and so lossening tho chances fcr political abuse. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Through - 13 - constant and whole-hcarted cooperation among the State supervisors and betwoon Stato and Fcdoral supervisory agoncios supervision has lost its haphazard air and has assumed an attitudo of concorted and dotermined attack on tho forcos which hitherto have hampered its efforts. Most auspicious of tho recent dovelopmonts affecting bank suporvision I consider to bo tho crcation of tho Fodoral Deposit Insurance, Corporation. By insuring dopositors against loss the Corporation substitutos itsolf--a compact, single-mindod driving force-for thu inarticulato and disorganizcd millions of depositors who insist that we shall havc a sound banking structur) and that dcposits shall not bc dissipated. The Corporation's tromendous potential liabilitics in its role as insurer make tho quality and effectivencss of bank supervision a vital concorn of the Corporation's directors. In its rolo us b,Ink supervisor thc Corporation is in a position to make a uniquu contribution to th, banking system and to thc record of suporvision. In th,, Fodcral Deposit Insurance Corporation bankcrs havc for the first time an agoncy concornod with the soundness of tho ontire banking system and without spocial interests in any class or scgmont of the mombc:,rship of that system. The Corporation offers bankers an unprecedented opportunity tc develop a much nocded uniformity of practicos and standards without imperilling thcir traditional structural set-up. Our exporionce undor this new order is not yet sufficient to test the adequacy of existing banking legislation or to permit promises for thc futurc. I find causo for rejoicing, however, in thc fact that the tone of supervision has bocome foruard-looking rather https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis - 14 - than retrospective and I can assure you that supervisory authorities generally feel their responsibility for intelligent aPplication of the enlarged powers they have been granted. Bankers Determine Extent of Supervision I might say further that the goal of present day bank supervision is not the complete regimentation of the banking profession which so many bankers seem to fear. Supervisors clearly realize the dangers of an autocratic application of arbitrary standards to every transaction of every banking institution. Likewise, they realize that a completely unregulated, and individualized pursuit of the banking business would end disastrourly. Somewhere between these extremes exists a middle road which leads to a sound and prosperous banking system ane tn safety ''or der)ositors. It is that road we must find and follow. In the last analysis, bankers themselves determine tho extent to which their activities must be supervised. It is to the distinct ad- vantage of all concerned thut the supervisory system should be as simple as possible. I visualize our supervisory systcm as comparable to a fence surrounding a p]aying field and defining the boundaries of that field. Within the enclosure of law and regulation bankers are free to exercise their initiative and to conduct their business to the best of their judg.ment. The results of this exercise of initiative and judgment, as re- flected in the soundness of your institutions and the safety of your depositlrs' funds, will determine the boundaries et the field. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis *********