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APPEAL TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
FRQK THE ACTIOH OF THE ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE
HI DESIGNATING RIGKMOKD, VIRGINIA, AS THE R$3ERV$ BAM OTTER

•OF THE FIFTH DISTRICT
-INSTEAD OF BALTIMORE, MARYLAND.

HELD AT UNITED STATES TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
fASHIKGTOH? D* C.

January 6 , 19X5.

Reported byi
Rexford L* Holmes,
Offioial St@no3 m1ih.0 r
of Hearings,
$33 Southern Bl&g. i
Washington, D. C*

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5?h© .Pr©iild©nt of th© Board i

Gentleman, this As a

motion for th© review of th© nation of th© Federal Basorve
Bank Organisation Ooraraittea, in daaigniting Richmond as
th® iaiaral Baa©rv© City for the Fifth M a t riot*

Petition©

hav© boon duly filad, and brio.ff» also hav© boon filed,

to the order of proaatfar® on
opening and oloaing# I would bo gl^d to hour from both
aid©# as to that point#
I

would like

to a nk fir sit »a

Mr* Chari©a ftarleell, Ooufcaal for th© City of Baltimore
Xf th© Board pl©&s©, w© aattuy* that following th© ordinary
praoe**nr© of l©g©l tribuzutla, it would b© our right, a©
app©lla©a, to open and elo»© th© argument, it having boon'
our intention to provide m opening and ©losing argument*
Th© ?r©aidant of th© Board t Th© D o m s ©1 for Mohmondf
we would b© glad to hear from you*

Mr#

1©

Legh R#

as^tra©

th^t

fag©,

Caunael for th© City of liiohmonds

that would b©

th©

©our a© of proceedings, if

on th© part
member© of th© Board* "a shall b© entirely willing
leave thla matter to the d.ls'ort'-tlon •■f tha Board*
there b© no objaation to suoh procedure

'l?he ^r©aidant of th© Board?

me

to

As X understand, th©

Boird ha© allowed two honra for thi> hearing*
to

of th©

th%t Baltimore, being tho moving p*.rty,

It asanso
—

that thay

should have th© right to open and olos©, and th© Board
would suggest an opening-, of ©ay# thirty minuta#, and than
Biahraond an hour, and th© remining ’time to b^ t^ken up
by Baltimore} and.
of

th©

1

would suggest that either or
aitia©

should.

both
have

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an opportunity for five minutes to sum tip at the close; and.
the Board will be glad to extend th«t time; so i f that ie
agreeable to you a l l , we will consider that as settled*
(?!& are mking a desperate effort to have that clock fixed-*
indicating a cloak in the room
hut we will get the time
as nearly as possible in some other way.)
3e will call on Baltimore then to open*
Mr* Charles Marke ll, Gounsellfor the Gity of Baltimore
If the Board please, before opening the argument , vte wish
to make on behalf of Baltimore a preliminary motion which
we assume will be unnecessary, but which we feel it our
duty to make* and th t is , under the rules of the Board
requiring oil questions of jurisdiction to be raided at
this time, we wish to move that, when the Board takes this
cane up for consideration and deciBionof the case be par­
ticipated in only by the five appointed membrra of the
Board, and that there be no participation by either of the
two ex officio members of the Board, who are also, as such,
members of the Organ155 ati on Committee, whose action is the
cause flfir this appeal# The act of Congr^as, — the terms
of the act of Congress regulating thi*s right of review
ar<* extremely brief* The aot doea not go into details, as
many procedural a Hs do, i f dealing with technical legal
matters, because it was intended that this? Board should
not be #ovarne<- by technicalities, but we assume in the
acts of the committe by this Board, it wee not intended
by C0ngre88f and nothing is in the ^ct indicating such
intent, to depart from
ordinary
principals

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of jurisprudence underlying a ll law, one of which principal#
is that Such a review should be before an unprejudiced
tribunal, which has not formed an opinion which would dis­
qualify its members. from reviewing the ease with., open ;^inde^..
With that view, which seems to us the clear spirit of the
act, though expressed in brief language, it would seem that
this appeal should be heard by the five member® m d that
the hearing should not be participated in by the other two.
Of course those general considerations are only strengthened
if we look to the Organisation Comittee, because the
Organisation Committee comprises the two g& offio 1c jERSjabers,
who are representative o fficial officers of the Government,
who are evidently put on the Board because of the eminent
desirability that in the practical working out of this act,
the Board should be in touch, as it is mde in touch by the
presence of those two members, with the important financial
departments of the Government* That reasoning does not apply
to a matter not looking to the practical working of the act,
but to the origination of the act, the putting of this act in
motion. There is no occasion for having the joinder of these
Treasury Officials with the Board, but on the contrary the
appointed members under the act, are required by the President
to be selected with a due regard 'to the geographical divisions
of the country# so it seems that we » y properly press this
point, not only in view of the fundamental requirement that
a review should be a real review, bef-cre a court which has
not expressed its views ©r arrived at a decision, but in

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this case also t a review by the Board with representatives
of the districts of the country,
not merely an official
hoard at Tashlngton. So much for that point; and with that
preliminaryt X will >rooeed to what we consider the merits
of the case*
The President of the Board: May I ask if you raise that
as a question of lawf or as a question addressed to the dis­
cretion of the Board?
Mr* Mark»ll: t?e rai e the point in both respects; we
think it i» eminently a question of discretion* i f the
Board Bhoald feel any doubt as to the legal rights of the
parties. As a matter of propriety, those two gentlemen
should not participate* But wo also raise the quootion
as a natter of law, because we think a right of review
given by the statute means a real review# — a real re­
view not participated in by judges whose minds have already
been made up* * nd who have already sat in that case*
fhe President of the Board: I would like to know
whether lUchraond aocjuiesoes in this suggestion; what their
attitude is in regard to it* ffe would be very glad to hear
from you/
fhe Counsel for the City of Richmond: fhe City of
Richmond wo Id be very glad to defer to the discretion of
the Board with regard to this matter. We are entirely
willing to let the matter rest In your hands* The act
provides the m nner of review, and the question that has
been raised presents a matter of law and a matter for the
discretion of this Board*
feel that the Board is able
to determine that question.

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afAfsssif or teu c& jam MBm &9 Qomnm foa tm

Q t n .a? u v z w m u

If th» Boa*# piosae, that bo inf? aubudttod for tlio
o o ^ t a u m t i o n of tha Bo&rd* X wish now to nrfttead wij#l

tfea m i n argiaiant m tbs write of t M s appeal*
It is tli© oontontioa of BaXtiaore tbat wo tbtn& ia
bob « # ont# and Is irrosilatably borne ontf by tlio feet*
diaouasiad ia more detail by omr brief* that tbe City of
Rle&ti**** abenXd be am da tkt Federal l^senrc Bank eentisr
i«at£$d of tb* City

Btob»on«*

?re aim only refer to

tfe**e petntr in tke limit*# time a l l o w s

wo oont nft that tbe oonvtmionoo and emetomary eonrae
of buain*«f»v wit« a duo Toward for tba ouustomry oonree of
Iraatneaa wMob ia Tttinira4 toy the aotf absolutely re$u*re»
tb&t Baltimore be designated a a tbe Heaerve City in tbia
fifth Mfttriot* instead of Hiobmond* and fnrthraaore * wo
want you gentlemi-B wbo aontftitnte thia ,3oar& Of review
to etamthe tfea *»*t»!*otttn$ -of tba comittee itse lf* Ton will
ftad that *tho re*aefetM£ of tfca eowrattt*** tb* nrimeipala
on whlefc they fa*,t?d ins rvnottaalXy avary otbar d i s t r i c t ,

escort tMa, r*cjntrea the t*w.o resu lt$ and e till faarfcJ*ert
we mint yon ta .look to the Tory a^blt and energetio oonteet
m^de 'fey the Oity of Biehmond ita ^ lft and their argument bofore the Org^ntsatlan £ommitt*e* *h*ae ar-niraanta not on ly
Aid not onll fa* prabordtnating the City of Baltimore to
Blahftand in the dlatrlot to wfeieli both ?boftl& belong* bat
they never breamed of belng m& 6* a Baaerve eityf exoept
in a diatriat whioh would not inelnda Baltimore.*

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Taking

that

up, and re fe rrin g to some o f our reasons,

f i r s t and foremost we say that Baltimore is the commercial,
fin a n c ia l and in du strial c a p ito l of th is whole d i s t r i c t ,
the point at which and to which the business o f the d is ­
t r i c t n aturally converges, that in every esse n tia l respect,
so fa r as fin an ce, commerce, and industry are concerned,
Baltimore is about fiv e times as important as Richmond.
How we present an array o f s t a t is t ic s on that su bject
in our b r ie f and it would not only be impossible in the
time allowed, but a waste o f time I think, when the matter
is set out there, to weary the Board at th is time with a
mass o f s t a tis tic s *

I w ill only, by way o f illu s tr a tio n ,

hurriedly run over one or two o f these fig u re s :
The population o f Baltimore in the 1910 census was
558,000;

the population of Richmond was 127,000.

The

manufacturers o f Baltimore, — th a t1s another matter that
is s t a t i s t i c a l , in the sense that i t is covered by the
United States census, — according to the 1910 census the
c it y o f

Baltimore, and th is means the c it y lim its , which

are very lim ited, as you

know had

2,502 establishments*

Baltimore Metropolitan D is t r ic t had 2,668, while

The

Richmond

had 380... The amount o f c a p ita l according to the assessment
in Baltimore was 164,000,000 in the Metropolitan d i s t r ic t ,
199,000,000;

and in Richmond

31,000,000*

The value of

manufactured products in a year in Baltimore is
000*00;
mond

in the Metropolitan d is t r i c t

$47,000,000.00.

1186,000,

$260,000,000; in Rich­

71,000 wage earners are employed

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Baltimore| 81,000 in the Metropolitan District* and 14,000
In Hiohmond*
Sfhere9& the ratio of fully five to on©# low, of course#
we dl&aUB3 jobbing, transportation, anct other details in
our brief* I only mention the above in pausing* Many other
details we also disousaed, shipping of oourse, though there
is no ratio there, beoause Hiohmond has no shipping in any
substantial sense• In Baltimore you have a great Atlantis
seaport, a city that ranks second to Hew York with respeot
to exports, and as we shall show hereafter, this matter of
export trade it s e lf is of vast importanoe under the aot*
Baltimore, In its foreign trade, had 1117,000,000 of
exports and f 715,000,000*00 of imports in 1918* fhe fig ­
ures for JUohraend are aero, so we oan have no r- tio thercj
there is no basis for oomparisen* And the shipping in
Baltimore, in addition to its foreign trade, la enormous#
fhe report of the government shows the value of the comraeroe
—* foreign and domestie trade amounted to over %43H#000,000
daring 1913*
How thOBe are sipply illustrations that we go into
in detail, and the only dlfferenoe between ;>r;e item and
another wonia be not a question as to whether .Baltimore
or Hiohmond in ahead, but how muoh Baltimore 1® ahead,
whether fiva tidies, or two times, or ten times* ”he ratio
differs, but th«? relation is always the same*
low these figures always show that Baltimore Is

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far shsad of Richmond la svsry branoh of oomjwros and i»~
duwtry, sad *vs*y gtsat aiasslfioation of
and I**~
dustry* But ths figures also show that this nas* *f 1m*~
Imi

In Baltic r# haa a mo*t l&tisaats ralattaa ta this

vt*y distriot itself#
jm

£*td»*d| nhsn y#u examine the tw % n ,

will find the Organisation Oomlttoe, In laying out the

Halts of this district, Has pioked out

a

district tffvleh la

alvays ootasmlma^ and that the talma of eojamaroe always
prsdrat&ates in Baltimore.

0nly

an illustration or two

of

that* -- then to pass on to other points*
Is refer la «m* brief to the enornous voltnaa of t*ha
shipping trade in Baltimore* tunning up into the mi&liens*
$00*00$ in 191$*

a vs*

How that i*3 not only largo in

Itsslf j but that shipping trade is almost entirely dons in
• tills r%r? Fifth Bistriot* and the figures in the *?rl#f that
data haok to ths reoord before the organisation domittos

show over seventy per m n t of the products of Baltimore
shippers and muuf&eturers distributed in this Fifth M s triot alone.
fii<3 m m # is true in asaMmls ds?#li>pra®&t<»

The great

Baltimore ttust ocwpsnlss %nd the Baltimore savings hanks —
and Eiahmoad hat rather showed a slight lag attitude toward
tooth trust so»panias and savings banka* for the vary asosss**
ry reason that Kialmond has not very
ttacre has* —

mmy

of those and BaJU

tot these very .Institutions that ao-iatitute

so iapertant a part of taeriean huslmm lift have thair a#»
tivltlea Imsdlatsly ,cilrested to the vary darslopasnt of the
othsr parts of this 41st riot that are now taade the fifth
Bistriet*

the savings banks ~

ths Matual savings banks —

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in Baltimore, liar© figures showing 123,000,000 invested by
three of the mutual saving* banka alone in bond# in south­
ern enterprises, and of course everyone knows that not only
banks but the trust companies especially are almost exclusive­
ly or largely devoted to economic development in the South,
this makes up a volume of business which makes Baltimore in­
comparable with Richmond in alas and Importance* and moreover
a volume of business which Baltimore does in and for this very
Fifth District, and which creates a constant stream' of busin­
ess from the district to Baltimore* and makes Baltimore the
center, not only of business in a general sense* as a large
city, but in a special sense as the financial* commercial and
industrial capital of this district.
The same is true as to banking figures* Those figures
are set out on page 19 of our brief, and Mr*
has
commented upon these tables which simply show la ocular form
that which is shown in figures in the brief* and those tables
make it possible to grasp with the eye, without ay mentioning
the figures* the utterly incomparable relation between banking
resources in every detail between Baltimore and Richmond. If
members of the Board will examine the briefs, and look at the
tables, they can see this difference at a glance. It is un­
necessary for me to take more time to call your attention to
the matter, fhe ratio is greater in some items than In others*
but in every case the enormous preponderance is in favor of
Baltimore over Richmond*

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Something has been said by the organlast Ion Committee
and ia the Biafcmond brief, m to what bank will be ©on-*
sidered. Tlell, now, the Organisation Committee very summarily
disposed of the matter by ignoring state bank® and trust
companies* ©le Hiohm>nd brief is an arbitrary way, combined
national and state banka, ano. ignores trust companies and
savings banks. It seems to ms perfectly clear that any
comprehensive view of this Federal Beserve aot will show
immediately the faot that Congress, in passing the aot,—
and everyone who has to do with the administration of the
aot understands this point| no line knows better than this
Board the importance and neoftaaity that at sometiiie the
state banks and trust companies must a ll be regarded as
independent of our system j and it is he desire of every­
body, and one of the important problems of this Board is
to work out how they will be coordinate with the national
basks* they may be brought in as teohnioal members, as
the act provides, far o tslde, like non-members of ole?'ring
houses. But it is futile to ignore sach banking capital
that happens to be outBide the mere national banks* But
it is not neeesaary for us to dwell longer on thin point,
for the same reason that I have already indicated, because
whether we compare Hiohmond and Baltimore on the b sis of
national banks or whether you include state, trust and sav­
ings banks f or whether we form any kind of n combination
such as national and state basks that 3blie mind can suggest,
or imagine, — the only difference is not a question as
to whether Baltimore or Hichmonci stands aheadf the only
thing we can debate about is the degree of predominance

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not Juggle the figure® any way that will show that
Richmond predominates over Baltimore. You ©m
m juggle them
some way so the difference will be two to three or four to
fir® i or five to ® lxf .or seven to eight, or tan to one, but
it seems to u® fruitless to' debat® question® of-multiple®,
fh® point that our insistence is laid upon Is the fact that.
Baltimore 1® predominantly the city, and that when w® sake
our estimate we would ®ay about fire times a® large a® Bidhmondf hut it 1® fruitless to go into detail with them, A® we
point out in our brief, it 1® Impossible to take a vl«w of
thl® situation without considering a ll the banks, and it Is pe­
culiarly appropriate in the ease of Baltimore, there its
trust companies and savings banks are primarily, you might
say, a ll helping the development of these southern state® that
go to make up the Fifth Diet riot.
How so much for those details, and as 1 say, they are
mentioned merely by way of illustration* The more you go into the®, the more details you get, the more emphatic becomes
the abac lute predominance of Baltimore over Richmond, and th®
impossibility of comparing the two*
Finding that situation to be the ease, namely, that
Baltimore does predominate in population, banking resources,
finances, manufacturing, commerce, and when you come to ship­
ping# the foreign trade itse lf presents auoh a comparison be­
tween mm and a large quantity, as to emphasise the predom­
i n a t e of Baltimore over Richmond*
f® next look at the action o f the Organisation Committee,
and we naturally suppose that, in a condition like the one on
whicih we find the Organisation Committee has undertaken to

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subordinate Baltiraor© to Richmond, wa would suggest that their
action evidently as a general rule has not indicated that
they paid mob attention, to (juestlons of sla© and import­
ance, because we would naturally expeot that Baltimore had
been singled out for such diaorigination apart from the rest,
when we do actually look at what the cobbs ittee did in the
other district*. The fact la that in practically every
other case except Baltimore the coxc&lttee was absolutely
guided by uhat 1® a perfectly proper thing to be guided by,
namely* by the fact that the largest city — the city that
stands ahead in population and business ought, by reason of
that fact, to be tha reserve city in the district, What did
the cottalttee itse lf do? Determine now fmm the facts, and
apply to their own reasoning those facts. fhy# thaae are
the facts: In ten out of the twelve districts the coaaittse
selected as the reserve city the largest city in population..
In that district. In only tiro districts did the committed
undertake to subordinate a large city to a smaller# and thoaa
two districts were the lew Orleans and th# Baltimore dis­
tric ts. low even In the Hew Orleans d istrict, they subordin­
ated law Orleans to Atlanta* which has a population of onehalf the »im of Hew Orleans, but sven there the district was
formed In such a peculiar way that everyone knows, as the oobi^
mittee remarked, that the course of business in that district
is mot from Atlanta to lew Orleans; the course of business Is
from the Gulf toward the East; and whether 'Em Orleans has
bean badly treated or not,, we are not her® to ask* Bo that
even If they gave recognition to the largest city in that

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d istrict, we would have had to turn the course of busJAess
backward, so that does not parellel the Baltimore situation*
But in our d istrict, i f the Board pleaae , they had not only
subordinated on© dity to a smaller city, hut two citie s,
Baltimore and Washington, — that are bo closely situated
goographically, that they practically amount to on© enormous
city, and they have subordinated both cities to the city
of Biehmond; and in addition to subordinating large cities
to snail cities, they undertook to do the very thing they
said they would not do in Bew Orleans, to turn the oourso
of trade backward, by sending business from Baltimore to
Richmond , when everybody knows, and when the committee
has said, in the report that the c o u r s e of business 1b north­
ward from the South* Te ask you to apply the reasoning of
this* committee its e lf, and aea what the re milt a would be*
Baltimore., the seventh oity of the Union, and Washington
the sixteenth are subordinated to Richmond, the thirty
ninth, and in a Edition to that the course of business is
attempted $o be turned backward, and only one other city
in the United states, Few Orleans, has been subordinated
to a smaller city; and that was In a district where it
is necessary to turn th« course of businews backward? Where­
as in this case they did both#
In the Cleveland district let m see what has been
the case* $hyt in the Cleveland 3istriot the Organ!nation
domraittee disposed of the problem in two sentences* Curiously
enough they put it under the head of Mohnond district. I do not
know why they should call attention to such, an anoinallyI The

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Justifying

thei? •eleetion o# Cleveland,

cor.para Cleveland with Baltimore*

oity in the United Statea*

How, lot ua

Cleveland la the aixth

It baa 561*000 people;

Baltimore

ia the seventh, with 588,000 people, and Pittsburg is the
eighth, ^ith 535,000*

All throe are p%ctioally the mm*

aiae, ao far aa papulation la oenoemed* And not t^o of
tfcoa* oitlea are 1*> tho v#ry same di at riot*

Cleveland and

»Plttaburg are praotiaally tha aa&e alae, and fx x ttw x praotJbalJr
the aaisa alaa at aa Baltimore*
do?

*nd *hat doea tha Ooir^lttee

The ooiralttaa aaya without any further argument, that

tha faot that Clevojiand la the *lxi)r oity,ojtlthou$i Mttaburg,tha eighth la almost tha aama alaa* la tta sufficient in
it^lf*

Tha sixth large at oity 4-* that is in itseltenaughto

justify saakln^ Olevelant the reserve oity* and

throw-

Ing Plttaburg into Ihe discard* and yat with three thousand
iin population separating Cleveland and Baltimore, they
atop at the sixth city, and isastaad of applying the a*me
reasoning to tha seventh olty, they take the seventh and
■sixteenth oitiaa together, and taok them on to tha thirty
ninth olty, and in addition to that try to turn the oourae
of hualnaaa backward, i n ordar to do th%t!
low, gentleman* v* ask you to apply tha masoning that
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the Organisation Committee applied to the esae of Cleveland
and Pittsburg* that are the facts about Cleveland and
Pittsburg? It is that according to the conditions* there
is no single reason that the committee reached in other
districts that ©imported a selection of Cleveland over
3?irtsburg except the me* weight In population* «hen you
come to examine th© sta tistic s whioh the members of the
Board pretend to be guide<> by in the Richmond case,
Pittsburg outclasses Cheveland in ©very point* I have not
tine to delay your honors, — the Members of the -!»oard
with that but it is so striking* £et me run over the lasjr
two tables in the Organisation Committee *& records, showing
the figures for national ra ti l all banks j
Members of national bantes in Cleveland, seven; in
Pittsburg 21#
Capital and surplus Cleveland, #14,000,000*00, P itts­
burg, *46,000,000*00*
ter dapita, Cleveland, ^§,000,000; Pittsburg, $88,000
000*00*
Individual deposits^ Cleveland ^40,000,000; Pittsburg, #1£0,000*000*00.
X^er capita, Cleveland, |78,000,000*00, Pittsburg
$285*000,000.00*
Loans and discounts, #! §8,000,000; Pittsburg,
*030,0 10.00,
^er capita, Cleveland, $112,000,000; Pittsburg,
^233,000,000*
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Eluding not only national banks, bat others, you h«ve the
pame thing through the whole l i s t ; Cleveland Is far be~
lilnd Pittsburg in ev«ory single Item., ?>o th t is why the
^Organisation Comnlttee thinks in other d istricts, In every
ftlstriot, exoeft in a partial sense, the Hew Orleans dis­
tr ic t, — that's what they think, namely, that the i®~
|>ort«noe of & oity bein>* the largest oity, the mere pre­
dominance of the sixth over the eighth, 1b enough to
Dutweigh a ll this inequality in banking resources, so far
#B Pittsburfc and Cleveland are concerned; bat In the ease
#f Richmond, Baltimore and Washington are both thrown out*
Thlle on that point w® may take up another question*
*nd dispose of it , so far as oral argument is concerned,
$noth r point that P.lohaond leys great stress on, and that
is this pol^ of banks, one of the things the Organisation
<|oHiialtte© refers* to as justifying their selection of
$iohaiond rather than Baltimore# What about that pole of
banks? There are three answers to that; First, and moet
Obvious la that Congress doee not say anything In the law
*j?bout a vote of banks being t ken as the basis #tfr selecting
tlhese cities# It woiild fieera to us, i f there was any subject
ttihat was absolutely argt*ed in Congress, and that nothing more
cjould be added to, It was, how far the banks sho Id, and
tjhe pitblio or the Board should have a say in determining
tjhe operation of this act, and when Congress gave the hanks
tjie rite to vote a certain way on certain questions, and
gjfcVe this Board and the Organization Committee the duty




and right to pick oat reserve c itie s, the inference is olear
that Congress realised that this was not one of the things
to ho determined by a vote, hut by national cons idera t ions;
and yet by petty oampaign methods among the hanks* in a dis­
tric t. So i t aeetns to us that Congress nev^r intended a
matter of this kind to be determined by a vote, and there
are obvious reasons why it is so* A vote of bnnks is de­
termined largely by sentimental consideration^ and it
is obvous that the pole in this oaset — It is obvious
that state pride would lead Virginia tomfcs to vote for
Hiohmond* Eleven did not do so, notwithstanding state
pride, but state pride would load Virginia banksto vite
for Bichmond, regardless of business considerations;?*! and
i f you analyze the vote, you will note that as to th©
second choice votea, nobody in Maryland ever loted for
Richmondf for second or third choice, and yet the Virginia
brinks voted very largely for Baltimore as second and third
ohoioo* In addition to that, the vote th*t the committee
itse lf took over the whole United States shows what the
country thinks of this district as a whole* Over & thousand
votes that the committee took contains suggestions not only
from the districts p rtioularly interested in and contiguous
to this Fifth district, but from a ll over the country, and
over a thousand bmks, suggested that Baltimore should be
one of the eight of twelve reserve citie s, and only three
hundred — some odd — sug ested Bichmond, and tf you
compare the rge centers, Hew York, Illin ois, Ohio,
where the larger banks hnve been situtated, Richmond
did not get a handfull of suggestions from those

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localities**
But, gentlemen, aside from the fact that this wa* a
mutter to be decided, on national ground® and on broad
consideration* and not by drumming up votes on any very
energetic and very able basis, as it may be, the realt truth
afr*he matter is that these facte do not indicate anytlling
more than the fact that a larger numbers of banks
voted for BichMond, and the vote itse lf shows that the
predominance among the bankers, if you .measure their votes
by their weight of business, is in favor of Baltimore*
that is disdussed in our brief, and I cannot delay any
longer upon its but the exclamation is simple, and that
is that down there in Virginia and the Carolina* they have
rnny sta&lX banks, and if you count one bank one vote, and
ten banks with $25,000*00 capital each as ten times more
than our Baltimore bankers with isillicns of dollar* in
capital and surplus that is the way you get a predominance
of votes in favor of Bichmond over, Baltimore, but if those
votes were taken according to the weight and size of the
banks and volume of business, the predominance would be in
favor of Baltimore* In addition to the fact that the law
doe* not authorise thi* question to be decided by a vote of
banks, and in addition to the further fact that the voting
itse lf if you give might to the sisse of the bank, emd not
merely to the nuiaber, would favor Baltimore, the committee
itse lf does not pay any attention to the vote of the
banks because you only have to look at the Cleveland
district where everything was in favor of Pitteburg, aAd

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against Cleveland, except tb#

and glad)

and what

was

pm m m M am m

in

the vote there? Of the

f
votes there

Cleveland got about one hundred and ten votes out of six hun~
dred and some, Cleveland got less votes, barely one-third
as many votes as Pittsburg* and barely half as many as Olnoinnati in its own State, and in Ohio there were more cities
voting for Cincinnati than for Cleveland. How.-, gentlemen*
that shows what the vote amounts to, even with the Organisa­
tion Committee Itself. So much for the question of votes!
low, Just a word more on what the people of Richmond
themselves think of the situation, and that must be summed
up in a words Hlohaiond went before the Organisation Cojaaittee and had a very carefully prepared brief, prepared by Mr*
Saye, which expresses the governing idea of the entire brief
in one of the opening sentences. The text of that brief was
just such as might have been prepared by any able lawyer, al­
though Mr* Saye is not a lawyer, and that text was stated in
the first sentence, that * Nature had mapped out a perfect dis­
tric t, bounded on the north by the Potomac.* How, the whole
of Richmond* s argument in their brief, and the argument they
made at the hearing before the Organisation Committee, was an
.elaboration of that text. They realised that they were con­
tending primarily with Atlanta, in a district south of the
’Potomac, and m far as Baltimore was concerned, so far as
their problem was concerned, their district ought to be bound­
ed on the north by the Potomac. They realised that if you put
Baltimore in the district, it would be the head of the district;
tne of the
men
fro®
South
Carolina

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showed that clearly* They asked him about putting Maryland
in the district, emd he immediately answered, *1 do net think
it would he a good thing to hare the reserve hank away ftp
in a corner of the district. That would mice Baltimore the
head of the d istrict, by putting Maryland in the district**
That is the only logical reasoning*
My time is almost gone, and I shall only want to
refer very briefly to one other point* It Is our conten­
tion that Baltimore is geographically the logical location
for this bank, --geographically in a real sense* That is
already answered by what we have said about the relative
importance of the banks, because locating a bank is not
a geographical question, not at least in any such an im­
portant sense as Richmond would indicate* The most im­
portant geographical question is to put the bank where the
largest amount of business is, not where the outside business
c«*n go with least inconvenience, that is close to its own
doors* And in that sense Baltimore being five times
as great as Hichmond, would have had the advantage«
Then there are other reasons, and a ll are in favor
of Baltimore* One is, the coiraaittee realised in the Hew ftadte
Orleans district the most important question about geography
is not the question of distance to the reserve bank, but
the course and direction of business* How, the direction
of business in this district is nearly all from the South,
and when you put a bank in Richmond, so far as Baltimore and
Maryland are concerned, it is not a question of distance, but
of trying to make water run up h ill, and change the course
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d istrict, Baltimore Is in tha direction from whldh the bus­
iness coses, at the north of the district* This la a simple
argument, and not original with us, but at Richmond,—when
Richmond went up to the Organisation Committee, asking for
this diat riot* Richmond contended th%t *Hatura had mapped
out tor it a perfect d istrict, bounded on the north by the
Potomac Elver.* Mr* at ye, their spokesman, in testifying be­
fore the oonmlttss, said that district had an incontsetIbis
position, being situated at the northern limit of the dis­
trict* So far from being an argument ag%lnst it , it was
their text supporting their case*
low .Baltimore is near the northern, limit of — not the
district that Richmond aaked for, but the district they ac­
tually got. I do not mean to overlook the fact that after
Richmond had filed their brief, and after they had covered ap­
parently every question at the hearing that the district migfrt
be maned out differently, Hr# Saye, very clearly and ably
wrote a letter a month later when he filed the brief, and
pointed out the fact that notwithstanding Mature*s action In
mapping out the district, you could Just aa well put Balti­
more in the d istrict, and put. a branch bank in Baltimore!
That showed great cleverness in adapting his argument, but It
was a pure admission of the superiority of Baltimore over
Richmond as a reserve center*
My ttee has expired*
The President of the Boards lour motion took five min­
utes*
Mr. Markelli How much ttee have I left?
The President of the Boards Five minutes* The motion

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toefc five or six Minutes*
Mr* Marfeellt I as, glad to know just how umdh time I
ft* VS left*
On this question of distance, then, I can say & words
Primarily, the course of business is of isuoh more importance
than, the distance, and If you want author it y on that* go to
Richmond* and that point Richmond had In her brief j but the
Organisation C onitt m is also good authority for that* mid
*varyon® seems to agree about that* and everyone agreed that
the course of business flows northward toward Baltimore £vm
th® south* In addition, to that, distance is absolutely unisaportant in this district* fhyf Because of th© faot that
the whole district is so compact, that Baltimore is within
seventeen houra of any other point in th© <11stric t,—any other
city of considerable al*o,~~ so there is only one buaineea
’day dividing on# end of tl a diet riot and another, whether you
put th# bank in Baltimore or Richmond* Mow* our friends from
Richmond make a curious argument on that* They say that hours
make a difference* because clearing house meets in the mom*
ing and it makes a differenoe what tine the business ean
reach the reserve oenter* As I understand* this bank, so far
as it operates as a clearing house* will be automatic* open
so long as the day lasts* so distance is not Important anyhow*
It would not have been unimportant out in Kansas City* It is
very important there* If anywhere* because in Kansas City the
reserve city is one thousand milm away, separated by one
thousand miles and. by the Hooky Mountains from Emnta# City*
and yet the Board thought nothing of that* and
properly so*
The* put the bank in Kansas City,

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in nine of th© twelve districts this Organisation Com­
mittee has selected a reserve city at or practically on the
very edge of the district, and no one found fault for doing
*o* How th® further circumstance about th® geography of
Baltimore is that Balt lmore, as a matter of fact, really is
nearer th® banking business than Richmond, and that again is
the same thing I have discussed In referring to the poll of
banks* fhs only essential matter to be considered is the
difference between number and volume, fe have in the appen­
dix to our brief enumerated every national bank city in the
district. W
e took national banks simply because it made the
problems smaller than if we included others, although the
national bank comparison Is more favorable to Richmond, be­
cause Baltimore and Maryland are stronger In trust companies
than Richmond, and even on national banks alone we show, al­
though there are more national banks which are nearer geo­
graphically, not by air line, but by mailing time, Kiohnond
than Baltimore* when you take the total resources, by far
the greater number is accessible to Baltimore than Rioftoondj
and when you take those resources and divide them by hours
and even the average distance in mailing hours from Balti­
more to all of the banking resources in the d istrict, it is
7*3 hours, and to Richmond is §»1 hoursf so the real truth
about this geographical argument, speaking candidly, Is we
do not think it should be controlling, but so fax as it is to
be considered, It is in favor of Baltimore, because Baltimore
is really nearer the density of banking business than Richand

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*<
zsond.
fh# q,-u##ticn

of

proximity to i&ilad#lphia has m m mm~

aad th# Organisation OoauiltiM auggeatad that waa tha
raaaoa for not putting a bank in Baltimore* and that that waa
on. th# oontrary a ro&#o&. fosr aatabliahiag it. in Hlohiaoad*
IBay* it puts Baltiaor# that i&uoh naaxor to K*ilad#ii$ila,. New
York, Chicago, and Boaton, tfhiofe ar# th# bank* that Balti**
more will bo moat in touch with, and th# only other r###rv#
o iti m that it i&ora&aaa. th# dittany from ar# Atlanta and
Ballaa* and m oan r#f#r |«u goatlamon to th# ‘Richmond t#a~timony a# to th# inportano# of Atlanta, fit# whol# w#ight of
th# Richmond ©aa# b#for# th# 0xganiaatt#n ®omittaa waa put
on thai* intona# d#*ir© not to be tiod to amythin^ aouth #f
tham*- and th# on# thing stiaking out throng th© ©aa# i# tltay
did not want anything to do- with Atlanta
that ca# a
borrowing dl#triat. ftxttin^ this bank at Haltlaor# m&kaa
that bank that muofc nearer th# other raaorv# aitioa, and U*
or#a«#» th# diotano# free th# Atlanta and Ballaa banka, and
th# Kiohmond paoplt hav# j&adt oleax, batter than we oouldj,
th# faat that th# Ritih&ond bank will not ha?# large r#lation#
with thoee alt lea*
On th# iispo;rtaii0 ## ro,£&rcft#aa of diatanee, of th# ooura#
of trainee#, I oaitt#& to oall attention to Richmond1# atat#~
mont th&t &i#tmno« &o#$ not m m m $ to anything, tot th# di**
root ion d ***, and on that X would only ref or you* gegtlmeA,
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to th# toetimony of th# South Oarclina witn#a#/f or Rioh»ond,
and th# lnt#na# f©ar'they exhibited of b#iag f&atenad to At­
lanta* th#y said It would be a calamity to be attached to a
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plaoe eouth of me* low yom gentlemen of course 3m m that
Baltimore i* »tt@h further geographically f rom South Caroli­
na and lorth Carolina than Atlanta ia, tot those people eaid
It would be a o&l&mlty to attach thsm to a plaee south of
them, that they would fool that they worn hanging on to a
dead and* They muted to be connected north of them, booauae
th© oourae of bueineee l& north*
In conclusion,. gentlemen,

this Organisation Commit-

too has done to the people and toainase of Maryland and Balti­
more la to impose on them the exact calamity that the South
Carolina people asked to be delivered from; they have instil-'
ed that Baltimore and Maryland shoald bo tagged on to a city
aoiith of the®*, although the course of business is from the
south northward; and they have insisted that the course of
business should be turaed backward, or a .futile attempt should
be made to turn the course of business baox from the north to
the south, and in addition, to doing that, thoy have subordin*ated the seventh and sixteenth cities of the United States to
the thirty~niath city, which is one-fifth the »i3e of Baltimore,

one-third the also of faahimgton, and leas than one-seventh
the sise of the tiro combined.-

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apsmim arobmsct ot

tsm . k. Pa®,

0 ? RICHMOND, VA., IJT FAVOR Of TH8
W8SISHATXOK 07 HIGHStOKP AS IBB'WAI.
RJSSjSRVJ? CITY TOR THS IfIJTH JSnSRAfc
R9SSRVJS 331STRICT,

MR# FA08I

I shall confine ryself in opsiting this

case largely to a presentation of the purposes which
€kmgress had in view in enacting what is known as the
federal Reserve Act and to sun endeavor to point out the
true tests, or criteria, by which the Federal Reserve
Cities should be designated, the designation of the Dist­
ricts, as amde by the Federal Reserve Organisation Co®**
mittee| not being in review here#
It would s®em that such & course was orderly and
logical in all cases, but it is particularly se in the one
at bar for the reason that the brief filed on behalf of the
City of Baltimore sho^s in our opinion a total misoonoep*
tien both of the purposes of the Act and of what is re­
quired of a Federal Reserve City,

I , in presenting our

case, 1 state a matter well 'known to you, or of an element**
ary character, I do se from no id*a that you are not
acquainted with tha subject, for I have never yet appeared




before a “body wi»r« I fait* on account of the great
practical experience and learing of its members* greater
incapacity to randar tha Board assistance la arriving at a
correct conclunion of the questions at Issue$ but stata-*
ments of such jaattara ara necessary in developing the point a
wa rely upon to sustain tha decision of tha Federal Reserve
Organisation Commltteo in designating Richmond as tha
Federal Raaarva City of District Ho# 0#
?roa a general knowledge of previous afforta at
legislation on the subject, aa wall aa from a oareful ra~
view of tha debates in Congress during tha different stages
of tha enactment of the law* wa consider tha definition of
the purposes of the Act, as given Isy tha learned author
op Magee on Banka and Banking, last edition* as brlcft
though comprehensive, as can ha found*

the definition

there given is as follows I
a careful study and review of the provisions of
the M i * It must he observed that Congress has enacted a
aeasura Intended to regulate the more equal distribution of
money for the use and benefit of comerce* throughout all
sections of the United States, and to destroy centralised
reserves♦"
Assuming that this definition correctly sets forth
the purposes of the Act, we shall endeavor to point out tha

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true tests or criteria h? which the deslf*natloii of the
federal Reserve City of a &1striot should be made*

While

tha Act requires that the federal Reserve PI strict# shall
he "apportioned, with due regard to convenience and the
customary course of business** It does not express3y
state that the Organisation Committee must he governed
by the same considerations In regard to the selection of
the federal Reserve Oltles, hut It has “been assumed through*
out the hearings had before the Organisation Committee and
In the arguments of counsel that It was the intention of
Congress that "convenience and the customary course of
business” should have the same influence in the decision
of the location of federal Reserve Cities as in the case
of the apportionment of Federal Reserve Districts*

In re*

viewing the several briefs filed by various cities making
application for designations as federal Reserve cities
before the Organisation Committee* we find practical
unanimity of opinion in respect to the requirements of the
Act| except in the case of Baltimore*
tn the petition filed on behalf of the City of Cin­

cinnati* prepared under the direction of fisdericfc C*
Hicks* Professor of Iconomlcs and Commerce of the University
of Cincinnati we find this clear
of the statute in this respect?

and

comprehensive view

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*yirst#

biographical convenience* which involves

transportation f a c ilit ie s and rapid and easy ceiamtmica*
tlon with a ll parts of the d istrict#
"Sccond*

Industrial and

constwsrclal development and

needs of each section, which involves consideration of the
general movement of cojsmo^itiaa m& of business trans**
actions within the d istric te and the transfer of funds
and exchanges c f credits arisin g therefrom#
•third#

Th* established custom and trend ©f buslnesst

as developed “by the present system o f hank reserves and
checking accounts#

In laying out the d is tr ic ts and estab­

lishing the headquarters for reserve hanks* ev$ry effo rt
w ill he aade tc promote business convenience and no.mal
movements of trade and ceiaiiaree**
*The sme general ideas are b rie fly expressed in th®
petition file d on bebalf of the c ity c f Olevcland* Ohio*
Uiey are as follows!
*(1>#

Satisfactory communication

throughout the

wmmtok* d istrict#
(2}

Proxlmlty to center of t r a ffic and exchangee

of tha d istrict#
(3)

fin an clalf coaiaereial* industrial and civic

strength In its e lf#
(4)

Satisfactory relations with the entire d istrict#

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And In a petition filed on behalf of Louisville, T y ,,
and subscribed to by Meanr*.

0X1 1 ©

£. James, Swager Sherley,

HI chard Knott and |ohn W« Barrt Jr#ft almost the identical
language Is found;
wfa)

Geographical convenience *

(b)

fhe industrial development of the section*

(e)

fhe established trend of business.

(d)

The extent to which, each section is able, inde-

ptadently, to finance the needs of its own region,"
The city of Washington presented a paper at the oral
hearing before the Uederal Reserve Organisation Committee
which fully sets forth the requirements of a Federal Reserve
City*

Mr* A. 0* Austin, for fifteen years Chief Statistician,

of the ITnited States Bureau of Statistics, quotas it with
approval at page B9 of tha original petition of the City of
Richmond*

It is too long to read hers today, but we take

the liberty of referring you to it*
It thus appearing that ths bankers and students of
finance, put forward by the various comm l t l e s to repre­
sent their claims for a federal Beserve Bank before the
Organisation Committee* agree with singular unanimity upon
what is required ot a city desiring such designation, it is
aot surprising that the Federal Reserve Organisation Commit*
tee should Itself have eome to a similar conclusion. la the

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dedalon of the federal Beaerve Organisation Committee,
determining tha Federal Reserve Districts and the location
of the federal Beaerve Banlcs, at paga 361 of the record,
that honorable body

thnn summed

up the question*

"Among the many factor® which governed the decision® in
determining the respective districts and tho ©election of
the cities which hare been chosen, were:
*Mrat*

fhe ability of the member banks within the

district to provide the minimum capital of $4,000*000* re­
quired for the Federal Beaerve Bank* on the basis of 6 per
cent of the capital stock and suprlne of member banka within i
the district*
"Second,

fhe mercantile, industrial, and financial

conneetiona existing In each district and the relations
between the various portions of the district and the city
aeleoted for the location of the federal Beaerve Bank*
*$hird*

She probable ability of tha Federal Beaerve

Bank ia each district, after organisation and after the
provisions of tho Federal Reserve aot

shall

have gone into

affeot, to meat the legitimate demands of business, whether
normal or abnoxmsl, ia accordance with tha spirit and pro*
vialone of the Fedaral Reserve Aot#
"Fourth*

fhe fair and equitable division of the




available capital for the federal leaerve Baiika among the
district created*
"Fifth*

fh e genera1 gaographical aituation of the dia-

trict, transportation lines, and the facilities for epecdy
comgrnnication between the federal Reserve Bank and all por­
tions of the dllatrict#
"Sixth#

The population* area, and prevalent business

activities of the district* whether agricultural, manufac­
turing, mining, or commercial, its record of growth and
development in the past and it a proppeot for the future •*
On the other handt Baltimore, throughout it® brief,
filed with thin honorable body, lays the greatest

8trees

upon the also of Baltimore aa compared with that of Hichmond, and m&km no effort to prove, and it i« unable to
prove, that it better fulfils any of the requirements of the
Act, aa understood by the financial world at large, and the
Federal Reserve Organisation Committee, than Bichmond*

If,

therefore, we oan show that Baltimore has a wrong concep­
tion of the purposes of the Act, and of what is required
of a city deairing to be bamed as the Federal Beserve City
of a District, it follows that lie evidence hag no bearing oil
the fxteati&na at iseue and that its arguments are misdirect­
ed*

t e illustrate our contentions in these reelects, we

refer, firfit, to page $0 of Baltimore* a Brief, where it ie

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said s
"Without
of the

undertaking

Federal

a lainute review of the

Heserve Act, with which this Board is famil­

iar, it may he said

that

a cardinal feature - i f not the

cardinal feature - of the new system is its
ness#

present banking

fhe

system

It had been found to create an
the money

of

provisions

had

comprehensive*

been found inadequate#

artificial concentration

the whole country in Hen York City {and to a

lesser extent in

fhis

OMeago)*

it

concentration,

has

thought, made the banking system too dependent upon
lation

in the

of

stock

laarket and toe

the more

strictly

commercial and

country#

Congress

set out

to

little

specu­

adapted to meet

agricultural

correct these

been

needs

of

conditions*,

the
not,

however, primarily by forbidding* the practices which have
been deemed undesirable or
system,

but mainly by

unduly

ojepanding

prominent in our hanking

the system and

providing

new (and supposedly more efficient) channels by which the
money and

banking•resources

of the country isight naturally

flow towards the commercial transactions, as distinguished
from speculation in stocks*”
At page
,fWitb,

this further definition appears:

perhaps,

a more accurate sense of proportion,

it ml^bt fairly be said that the federal Heserve Banks

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with

are banka vested (X)
not Tested

In

other

in

of

transactions

certain important
whioh are
banks

belonging

great

or

importance,

pov-er to

the business of banking» eaeoept

with

hut

expressly

of

banks, and (2) with general

conduct all branches
tfcut f

special powers

the public#

routine

the;/ may not perform

functions

of

ordinary

by implication referred

same

united

hacking*

to the

member

aye tern*"

The learned authors of Baltimore **3 Brief, when next
approaching this subject* at page 3f of the brieft quote
with manifest approval the editorial reply of the Journal
of Commerce* of April ?Af 1914* to a letter which had been
sent that paper by the Richmond Committee* which letter,
however, if? not printed in Baltimorefs brief*

In the

editorial in question theBe novel views of the purposes of
the Act appear*
rffhe Richmond Committee says that in the middle and
southern portion of its district as designated* the three
Statef, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina« have
| nearly 6t000#000-population and 1,£&S banking institutions,
: while the northern part*, in whioh Baltimore is situatedt has
leas than 5f000*000 population and only 494 banka* It also
shows how much more convenient for railroad and mail aommni*
; cation Richmond is than Baltimore to this large portion of

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the district*"
Further gvtetlngt
*fo our mind this km ver? little to do with the case*
It is not a question of area and distances* or of popular
tion and number of bankst so much as of density of popula­
tion within certain areas, volume and charact«?r of transactions and number of daily coaimunio&tioust to bo made*
A limited area might bo mailed out in this city containing
a greater population than any ono of the three rtates named,
and another in which more commercial and financial business
te transacted in a day than in all three of them, while
there is only a fraction as many banka in the whole city as
in the states which constitute the southern part of the
Bichmond District*"
Evidently not being satisfied that the facte and con­
ditions surrounding Baltimore justified the designation of
that city by the federal Reserve Organisation Committee as
the location for a Federal Reserve Bank, the learned
authors of Baltimore1 a Brief again define the scope and
purpose of the Act, giving it this remarkable construction:
"the principal purpose* of Congresst however, in
devlsine this addition to our existing system, was evidently
not so n e h to improve conditions at ordinary times as to

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provide a more satisfactory system in times * ± stress*

ffcs

occurrence of panics and the inadequacy of the present
system to deal with panics wore undoubtedly foremost In the
mind© of Congress, as thoy have been in tho mind* of all
who have interested themselves in banking and financial
refora in this country*

Bxeept for certain m called

seasonal strains (whloh have not been greatly felt elnee
tha panle of 1907) , our existing system has been fairly
satisfactory in ordinary times*

It 1* 1st times of stress

that the weaknesses of the present system become manifest#
Shese weaknesses It waa the prime purpose of Congress to
cure**
fhe above being fair samples of the understanding of

the authors of Baltimore's brief of the purposes of the Act
and of what is rofaired of a Federal Beserve Oity, it is
natural that they filled their brief with matter wholly
irrelevant and immaterial$ unless, perchance, Baltimore,
realising that she did not possess the true requisites of a
Federal Beserve City, m required by the Act, resorted to
the expedient of extolling her general virtues, her possess**
ion of which Is undisputed, in the hope that she mi^ht
still he designated#
I regret that 1 shall

be unable, on account of the




ahortneea of time allowed for o m l argument, to call your
attention to the overwhelming weight of evidence.ia support
of eur claim

that

Kichmond

meete*

all of the re$uireraente

of tho Act, aa understood by ihofse learned In finance, and
that Baltimore fails to do *o#
tho

oaae

I © h a H leave this part of

to ay aaaoelate, tho Honorable Eppa Eunton, Jr.,

who ia peculiarly well qualified for tho undertaking* and
I shall devote tho rest of my time to a few points which
in ay opinion ahould have groat weight with you la forming
your deeialon*
First, it mm plainly contemplated in tho Act that
Federal Banka should act not only aa clearing houaea for the
member* In their own districts, but between district®#

fhe

clearing between diatrleta, we believe, will develop into
enomoui proportions and that the bank most advantageously
located for clearing tranaaotiona of any large ©ection of
the country will havo a great aervloe to perform.

We claim

that Richmond rather than Baltimore oooupiea thia petition*
3Phe Federal Beeerve Organisation Committee having, for
obvious and juat ream na, selected the cities of Boaton,
Hew Tark, and Bdladelphia, in geographical order, aa
Beaerve Cltlea, could not have accomplished a proper diviaIon of the banking power of the Eaat and of the territory
generally, by naming the nearby city of Baltimore in the

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northeast eomtr of the Mstrict to* $ m the fourth olty
a!sag the Atlantic seaboard*
Second;

fhe overwhelming preference of the banks and

of tho people in tho District for Richmond over Baltimore*
assuming that they had intelligence enough to know what was
best for their business interests* founded on present hanking
connection# and the customary eourte of trade* should, and
doubtless did* have great weight with the Federal Reserve
Organisation Committee in locating the Federal Heserve
City o f Di?5trict Ho# & at Richmond rather than at Baltimore*
Further* I would respectfully call your attention in
mm& detail to the fact that although Baltimorefs hanking

resources are greater than tho«e of Richmond, they are not
to the same extent available for the requirements of District
Bo* 5* and also tin the failure of Baltimore and of Maryland
to keep apace during the last decade with the growth in
hanks and hanking resources, and in commercial and lndus~
trial development generally* with Richmond and Virginia
and with north and f<outh Carolina* with which Richmond la
inseparably connected*
On page 21 of the Baltimore brieft the division of her

hanking

power

ia

given as follows *•
fetal Banking Resources*

39

national Banks* • « • • » » * » » * * •

msiA




1224* 975,000

State Banks, trust companies,
and otook savings companles* • * * * «
Mutual savings banks*

80,183,000
108,708,000

fotnl » * * * « • * » * •

fE97|864|000

fhe resources of mutual saving* tenlce and truat companie® are §182,000*000* or 60 per cent of the entire
banking resources of Baltimore*

Srust companies have a

field of their own and they cannott as at present consti­
tuted, enter the eastern*

Mutual savings bank?? cannot, in

the nature of their business, become members#
Again, we would point out that la the itemised state­
ment of ro^ources on page 19 of the Baltimore brief, the
fact that #1&8,000 ,000 , or 45 per cent of the who la, are
"investments, bonds, securities, etc»w
fhe actual use Baltimore is makirif of its banking re­
sources, as well as its rate of progress in the world of
finance, oan best be knoim and understood by referring to
its

ora

estimate of these matters when not engaged in en­

deavoring to promote its claims as the financial capital
of a Federal K*serve District*

Such evi&once as this? can

be found in the report of the Commission for the Bevislon
of the 'Taxation Astern of the State of Maryland and the
City of Baltimore, appointed In pursuance of C a r t e r 779 of




the Aots of the General Assembly of Maryland, 1913*

fhe

rep ort is signed by th e following responsible citizens of

the Stat# of Marylands~ Henry >% Baker* J, Karry Mahool, 1*
Stanley 0ary, J# H* 0a»briH, Jr*t Williaai M-* Cooper, and
Y e m o n Cook* (See page# 28f and £88 of said rep ort) *
fh© truth of what the distinguished Committee has
said of Baltimore la connect ion with the

lack

of progress

in th e banking world is borne out by statistics both in
regard to the City of Baltimore and to the State of Mary­
land*

for the pur^os# of comparing the growth of the City

of Baltimore and the ftate of Maryland with the City of
Eichmoad and the £tate of Virginia, we refer you, first,
to the reports made to the Comptroller of the treasury,
oa March 4t 1914, by all of the lational Banks of each of
the States? la M a t riot Ho« 0, and then to the combined
statement of lational and State banks in said Metrict*
AG0RJS&ATS RESOtJBCBS.
1913

Xncroase

Maryland* * • • #30,575,000

#66,989,000

186,414,000

86

Baltimore • , «

aBf019f000

110,989,000

28,877,000

35

Virginia

38,220 #000

100,£95*000

62,075,000

162

Richmond .• * » 16*730*000

56#576,000

39,846,000

238

Borth Carolina

18,865,000

62,459,000

43,094,000

831

South

13,724,000

42,082*000

£8,358,000

207

1908

« * •

Carolina

2»er C<

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COMBIllKD

Of

BAflOBAI* & SfAfB BAH3CS*

190E

1913

Virginia (Inolud#94,7£S,000
ing Richmond)

Increase

Per Ctnt

§818 ,211*000

fl85*483,000

ifco

Berth Carolina

53#3£fc,O0O

117*315*000

8&*994*000

zm

Sonth Carolina

ZB.138.000

95.185.000

67.047.00C)

208

0156,188*000 f43O*71£*OO0

#874*584*000

178

West Virginia
Maryland fInclud­
ing Baltimore)*

# 75*484*000

163,766*000

80,512,000

109

128,613*000

199,8£8*000

71*918*000

81

from sworn special reports submitted to the Coffixatroller
of the freasary, it appears that the national Ban&a in
Richmond were lending in the thirteen southern states on
January IB* 1914* more money than was being loaned in those
Stfrtes by the national banks
try, exeept lew York*

of

any other city in the eoun~

The tetal loans and discounts in

the thirteen Southern States by Baltimore* Washington

and

Klehracmd are as follower
Baltimore,» * » * * « * « *

$6,891,000

Washington* * * • • » • * »

915,000

Kiehaonft* • * * * • « • * «

33*4?&t00O

fheae figures show that in those portions of District
go*

& outside

of the States of

Virginia

and Maryland* the

Hiehmond national banks ere lending twice as m m h money

as

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m ?




all of the national banks of Baltimore and Washington com­
bined*

They also show that although Richmond was not a

reserve city* the banks and trust companies in the thirteen
Southern States had on deposit in the national hanks of
Bichmcmd on February 'Id* 1S14, $9,876,000* or slightly
more than the baiiks of this section had on deposit in the
city of Baltimore, and four tlme« as much as they carried
in Washington, although these two cities have long enjoyed
the benefits of being reserve cities*
In conclusion, the present position m have shown
that Hichmond occupies as the financial center of the
District; the wonderful progress she has made in the last
ten years and the ceftalnty that that rate of progress w l H
he maintained and increasedf founded as it is upon the
unprecedented development of the great natural resources
of the Bistriet; her intimate Jcnowlddge of the people of
the District, of their industries and finanoial needs;
her central location and unequalled transportation connec­
tions with every section of the District; and, lastly, the
overwhelming expression of the wish and desire of a great
majority of the hanks of the Mstrict to continue to do
business with her#made it entirely fit and proper that
the Federal Reserve Organisation Comittee should have

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named Richmond ms the Federal Reserre Citjr of District lo*
6f and will lead this Honorable Body, we confidently eabrait, to

Hunton;
state­
ment
follows




a

like eonetaeion*

am

Kdraoneton
follow*

HOlKCS
Federal

BeSOTTO
Board
1/eAs

ISsO > M*




AfiftftOSB? OF Mlu I I B HOTWOB, OK HICBEOIB TA*, Iff
FATOE OF fHl DI5SI#»Af tOB Of HIOHMOID AB
fKDHEAL K3SBKCB'
OXft FOB fHH FIFTH m&mkTi
BISfHIOf.
If the Court pleases* the Federal Beserve Just leaves
it to the Organisation Cosaaittee to determine the reserve
cities of each district, subject to review by this Board#
The Act itself fixeis no criteria by which to determine tho
reserve oitiaa*

An examination of the terms of the Act

will* however, throw much light upon the intention of 0on~
gress la this respect, aad it seems to m that tha best aid
which I can give to this Board la reaching a conclusion
la this matter is to point out thou* eonslderatleas which
seem to ladleate Baltimore aa the reserve city for the
district, aad tho^e which seem to ladieate tiehmoad, aad
whoa those eoasidorations are before the Board, to balance
them and see where the balance lies*
I will first consider Baltimore*

Hr friend, in his

opening, has indicated that he relies very largely upon
its sisey which m admit and recogalze*

fhe record dis­

closes* and the Board will recall, that at the hearing
before the Organisation committee Baltimore was first
heard, and that at that meeting she insisted upon her
else being the determining factor* fhere were two other
considerations that she urged very forcefully and very
earnestly upon that occasion, namely, the number of baalcs

*

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second,
in the fifth d istrict; kxa£ other business organisations
which favored Baltimore; and third, that Baltimore had a
preferential freight rate*
Not’?, I will endeavor to show that the only considera­
tion which favors Baltimore is its size* aad that when the
facts are ascertained, the other two factors vanish, she
possessing neither as against Richmond# How, my friend has
said that the vote of the banks amounts to nothing, because
In the Act there is no reference made to a vote of the
banks, yet he says that the determining factor should be the
sisse and the ropal&tion of Baltimore, as I f there were a
statement in the Act that that should be the guide to con­
trol this Board or the Organisation Committee in reaching
its conclusions# Eow easy it would have been to have pre­
scribed in the Act, had that been the intention of Congress,
that the largest city in each reserve district should be the
reserve city; or, i f It was not the intention of Congress
to make it simply the largest in population, how easy it
would have been to have said that i f there is In any disbas
trie t a city whichkte twice, or three or four times the
population of any other city, that it should be selected
as the reserve city# But there is no mention in the Act
of that, and it is clear that it was not the Intention of

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Congress that that should T>e tJia Bole determining factor.

Shore is no question that it is a factor of weight, a
factor that will carry consideration, and which, i f other
factors combine with i t , will determine the location of the
reserve city# But *AhS" says ray friend to the Organiza­
tion Committee, "you established the reserve cities in the
largest six cities in the United States, and when yon got
to Baltimore f you skipped i t , the seventh in eise% and
criticism is made in the brief and in the oral argument of
the Organization Committee and its published statement,
along with its decision, which my friend has quoted* My
friend says that after enumerating the first six largest
cities in the United States, the seventh, should follow in
a
the next naming of Jflm reserve city, but he fa ils to em«*
phasize this factor stated by the Organization Comnittoe
in the announcement of it s decision* that geographical
situation and a ll other considerations fully justify their
selection*

I f that had been true of Baltimore, the seventh

city in si3e# it also would havo been selected, but it is
the absence of those considerations that has led to tha
Organisation Committee passing over the city of Baltimore
and fixing Hichmond as the reserve city for the fifth
d istrict,

That Baltimore is not geographically situated

is not due to the fact that it is at the northern end of

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the A1strict* but It is due to the fact that the Act pre­
scribes that the five appelated members of this Board
shall be appointed from different districts* or that not
more than om of them shall be from any resorre district*
and that they shall be distributed geographically over the
United states* low* i f you were to make Baltimore a re­
serve city* you would put four of the reserve cities of the
Atlantic states* Boatem* lew York* Philadelphia and Balti­
more, la the extreme northern part of the Atlantic seaboard
States* and leave none between Baltiaoro and the Gulf*
with the exception of Atlanta* More than that* you would
make the reserve city of the fifth district a city not
intimately m i not distinctively a southern city* and not
intimately connected and familiar with the distinctive
crops of that district* and not intimately familiar with
its banks* Its bankers and its banking situation#
low* it is conceded that Baltimore has courierclal*
Industrial and financial power somewhat with reference to
its else* but this record will show clearly that the larger
portion of its financial transactions are with the terri­
tory to its north# &y learned friend came v^ry near asking
that statement In his opening argument* The record will
air.© disclose that a lar^e part of its commercial* and I
imagine of its financial transactions, are with the west*

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and tM« record will demonstrate that instead of Baltimore
■being the financial * commercial and industrial capital of
the fifth district, the credit belongs? to th® city of
Bichmond.
fhey claimed that the vote of the banks, for instance*
in their original hearing before the Organisation Committee,
and the campaign of the city of P.lchmond, to which my friend
has alluded, - a campaign was also waged by the city of
Baltimore and it fe ll down, as results were not produced
there by it*

Baltimore was heard first by the Organization

Committee, and she presented to the Organization Committee
the fact that a number of baj&s in the District favored
Baltimore, and a number of other business institutions,
and you will be astonished, after the argument of my friend,
to learn that I believe ton pages of the fifteen page
brief filed by the city of Baltimore was devoted to that
factor in their case« But they were not aware, then, of
what had been the results of the Richmond campaign, con­
ducted upon as high a &ro\m& as that of the campaign of
the city of Baltimore, but when they discovered that the
Richmond ease was presented to the Organization Committee,
we hear nothing more of the effect to be given to the votes
I&ter,
of the banks, except in their
(vln
their oral argument, they say that no importance should be

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attached to thaii because they are not mentioned in the
Federal Boaerve Act* Fow, that was an enonaous factor in
favor of Baltimore when they believed that a m jority of
th© banl-o w’ore in itfi favor*

It is a factor of no conse­

quence when it is demonstrated that it ha& not a pronounced
majority, but that a overwhelming

Jonty of the banks in

the district is in favor of the city of Kichraond* riore
te n that, at Baltimore's hearing before the organisation
Committee, before Richmond's cane had been presented, it
vms claimed that it lm$l a preferential freight rate over
the city of Richmond, rmd that that drew th© eurreiita of
comneroe and of tmsHness to the city of Baltimore, and that
that was a detominin^ factor in fnvor of the city of Bal­
timore, they boing unaware tof the fact thevfe when Richmond* o
casio wr.a presented, instead of Baltimore h&vbc a preferen­
tia l freifcnt rate an &£&inrt Richmond, Richmond, froa hor
£eo£?rftj>hioal location, had a preferential freight rate o?or
>3 *'
fche c it ;/ of Baltimore, and that there preference of 11*8
per cent j?er hiimtredweipht u; on a ll goodu or oomo&ilies
of the class going through Kichiaond, a difference of thir­
teen per cent# I ??entod to 8:iy thnt that v;as developed
u,;;on the hearing of the City of Hichmond, and since that
hearing, eitlvr in the orrsl argument nor or in the briefs,
have we heard a nln&le reference made to the

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factor of a preferential freight rate in favor of tho
Gity of Baltimore aa dot training nhather it should be tha
reserve city or not#

So that I say tha claim that Balti*

more was tha choice of

the

banks has been disproved by tha

evidence* tho fact that Baltimore had a preferential freight
rate has "been disproved by the evidence, and it leaves no
factor in favor of the Gity of Baltimore, except its

size,

which was been dwelt upon this morning, and which the act
Itself shows was n 1 ‘ *

‘ “*

~

“

n~

trolling factor*
conditions that existed as to the six largest cities of
the United States, wo did have controlled it, but it does
not in the case of the Gity of Baltimore* its business
being largely done with the territory to its north and
with the territory to its west*

There can be no further

or stronger illustration of that fact^*** the fact if stated
say colleague that in January, 1913, the national banks
of the City of Baltimore were lending less than #¥*000,000#
to the entire thirteen southern states, and at the srune
time the City of Richmond was lending to those same southern
states nearly $34*000,000*1 nearly five times as muoh as
a city that comas and claims to be the financial capital
of the fifth district*

It seems to ne that we might leave

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them this claim of the City of Baltimore that she in the
financial center of the fifth district, as it is absolutely
rehutted by the fact that at & single time the national
banks of the City of Richmond, which i if claims is only one*
fifth its sisse, were lending nearly five times as much te
the southern states as the City of Baltimore# Therefore,
we claim that the only factor in favor of Baltimore! awl
we think that due weight should be given to it , is that
Baltimore lias a larger population than Richmond, but that
it does its business vary largely with the territory to
Its north and the territory to its west#
How, let us consider for a moment what are tha factors
that we claim point to Richmond as tha federal reserve
city#
•

fir s t, the selection of Richmond instead of Baltimore

would distribute reserve cities more evenly in the different sections of the country* I have already allu&edl to
that* One of the purposes of the aot, as I understand,
is to prevent too great concentration of resources and
banking capital in any one section, and to concentrate
more in other sections so as to give to the whole country
a more even distribution thereof* Bow, i f you put a lar^e
part of the banking resources in the four cities of




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9

Boston | Mew Tor^i Biiladelphia and Baltimore, you will
have violated the spirit of the aot, which 1 wndtrst&nd is
af proclamation of f inancial freedom to this eonntry*

Mors

than that| you will hays violated the territorial and
gaoipraphical division, and you will have le^irhut on# single
federal reserve city in tha Atlantic states between Balti­
more and the 0«if, not a oontrolling factor, hy any means,
hut one of a nuiah^r pregnant with moaning to tha gantleman who have devoted intelligent study and time to this
question, and who* it seems to

me,

must in;vltahly design

nata lie too nd as this reserve city*

Tha second is that Kiohmond has closer relations
and a more intimate taowled^e of the distinctive orops
of tha district than Baltimore* Tha South Atlantis statas
have thraa peculiar orops, cotton, tohaoco and peanuts*
Tha anntml value of thasa thraa crops are approximately
as follows:

Cotton, #25$t000,600#j tobacco, #3^,000,000*1

peanuts, #l§>00Ot0OO* Thara can ha no question that a city
whioh is in tha area of production of thasa thraa crops
must l:now hatter their financial needs« They must ha mors
int a lii gently financed from within thaA from without*
Richmond is within tha area of produotlos* Baltimore is
not* It seems to me that at this time there oould ha no
hatter illustration of t&at than tha statement that tha




Richmond

an<^ bankers are infinitely more familiar

with the cotton si it Mation in the south now in the time of
this c risis in that industry# I think m may assume that
It Is hardly probable that the area of cotton production
should come to be limited by legislation* This important
and vital matter in that great industry ?aust he brought
about by personal influence and by financial pressuret
and the bankers of the City of Richmond* from their knowledge
and familiarity with the bankers of these cotton states
and the State of Tirglnia* are in a better position to
reduce the area of cotton production in this country than
is the City of Baltimore* which is to the north of it#
Again* there are four foreign governments* or their
boyars of cotton and tobacco* who have their headquarters
in Richmond* and this shocking statement* it seeas to ae*
shows the distinctly peculiar relations of Richmond to
these peculiar crops* In 1913 40 per cent of the tobacco
crop raised in Virginia* Worth Carolina And South Carolina
came directly to Richmond for re*handling and manufactur­
ing* and Richmond paid out in connection with It the
enormous sum of $53*000*000* or 86 par cent of the total
value of the crops of those three states*

A portion of

this* however* went to Kentucky* which is not in the fifth
district* fhose facts show the Intimate relations of

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u

Richmond with

thra# distinctive crops of

the

is,

district| and user belief

the fifth

though the record dons not

show, and 1 presume that statistic® would he difficult to

obtain* that in the financing of the peanut crop it is mor#
pronounced than
1 ha third

is

it

is

other three*

as to the

preferential freight rates,

already alluded to#

ahloh

I

hava

Mr# Hawco,mert when testifying for

at

Baltimore **4 Washington, saids'
•Freie^it rates are
and

sal#

trade

in

oomoditiesi

of

coiamarcial

advantages

the prime factors

correct

ti^a* that

it was

ential freight
that it is to

Mr* Hawcoaer announced

proposition)

of

the

geographical
quicker

rate applies

to

all

doubtless due

to

this

certain

freight

ratei^

JTot

only is

that

delivery

commodity

one to

and this

freight rate

cities in

four days

preferential

and class rates#

preferential

Tirginia

it turns out

preferential

position*

Richmond than In Baltimore,

the

had the prefer­

when

But it is true

Richmond that

but thara Is a

in

flow

believing, however, at the

perhaps Baltimore that

rates#

belongs from its

tonnage

shapire the normal

of freight rates lower than those established**

absolutely

in

purchase

and manufacturing centers enjoying the

It seen# to tm that

true,

and In

in the

1913t

freight

It is

that

In Horth

the

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55

a*

Carolina, South Carolina* Oeorftla &nd Florida reached the
enormous amount of

2,238,906 tons* and of this from

Richmond alone there was 6219,495 tons*
those figure# for Baltimore*

How, we have not got

We knew that thay were there

for Richmond| and we had thought they would produo# them
because we believed
Baltimore

they would show th® inferiority of

aa the commercial center of the fifth district

aa clearly as the loans from the national banks of tha
fifth district show that it is inferior aa a financial
canter, and I hava seen from this record that there wars
independent investigations made by the Treasury Depart*
ment, *nd it appeared that those independent investigations
disclosed those facts as to Baltimore#
Richmond is more convenient than Baltimore to a
larger number of banks in the district*

These ars 484

national banks in the district9 and 1,1$2 state banka*
There ars in Virginia, Iforth Carolina and South Carolina
1,123 banks, leaving 483 in the rest of the district*

All

of these banks in Borth Carolina And South Carolina are
about four and one~half hours nearer to Bichaond than to
Baltimore*

The same is true of most of the banks in

Virginia*
Bi^t counsel for Baltimore in their brief say?
•Practically the whole district being An within one

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business day of either Baltimore or Richmond, the question
of distance obviously becomes immaterial#

The exact hour

of the :iay at which a mail transaction is consummated is
unimportant *•
I agree with w

friend that the exact hour of the

day at which a hank transaction is accomplished is unita*
portant, with this single proviso, and it is an important
one| and that is that it he received in time to he cleared
on that day| otherwise it is very material*
How, such is the connection of Richmond with Worth
Carolina and South Carolina and with a greater portion of
Virginia and a part of West Virginia that its mails reach
there

we know that the hanks,

and

especially the country

hanks send out their mail after they close in the evening,

and

from that territory the m i l reaches Richmond largely

bgr the time the hanks open, so that Immaterial as the time
aay he at which the mall nay arrive, provided it is in time
«

to he cleared,

it reaches the

to he cleared that day#

Richmond hanks in time

We know that the clearing houses

generally close at about eleven o#clock, If a transaction
comes too late to he cleared
a day#

that day there is fhcA'#aj*/ef

A

How, if you take the distance from that territory

to Baltimore, many of these transactions it would, he




Impossible to clear on that day, "but they would ho delayed
and would only bo completed in tho transactions of tho
next day#

So that whil® X a^rao with sty friend as to tha

exact tiiae at which mail arrives is uniaqportantt I do main­
tain that it is of tha utmost importance that it should ha
received in time to be cleared on the same day#
A^ain, another factor in favor of Richmond is the
relative increase in the banking resources of Richmond and
Baltimore*

That Richmond*s resources have increased much

acre rapidly than those

of Baltimore has been established

by my colleague upon authority of tha Baltimore people
themselves, but I do not know whether this Board cau^it
the faot that that document was appended to tha name of sgr
distinguished friend who so ably represents Baltimore with

h t.

accept it

.« < u . . C l ™ . « d . . » « A—

as an absolutely jfalr and impartial — * I would not
say

th«r«for«

like

to

^rr^f^amant of the national banks of Baltimore#
the national banks in Richmond in December* 1904,

capital and surplus of $3,115,000* in Harch, 1914, $9,314,000,
an increase of 199$*

In September* 1904, the Baltimore

banka had capital and surplus of #18*868,000, and in March,
1914, #19,205,000, an increase of only B%.
.

How, it seems to me that 1b a very Important factor

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to "be taken notice'of, that Richmond1*? increase was 199J&,

Baltimore's i no re as©

while

It is more

striking

was only
tate s to th© south, that

with the

section of the country which has, I am hap^y to say, assumed
such a position of progress and of prosperity in our entire
country that has made
and development

Increase

The

and state banks

give

cluding

the

is just

Virginia,

marked and looked to for

investment

for progro/e *

in

sta tistics

the

them for

and

it

aggregate
as

resources

striking* ?he

of th© national

record does not

for the two cities, hut it does give
including Richmond, for Maryland,

Baltimore, and for the other

States

in­

in the district,

from 1908 to 1913:

Virginia

(including

Richmond), 1908, #94,788,000$ 1913,

£216,821,000; per cent of increase, 130$*

Maryland fincluding
#199,525,000,

1913,

So

Baltimore),

an increase of

1908, *123,613,000;

61$*

that the financial, industrial and

commercial

capital of this district, assuming that all that my friend
claims for it is true, would m o n vanish unless it got re­
newed*
In

1902

resources

Maryland had nearly

than

Virginia, while

in

$29,000,000

more

bank

1913 Virginia had nearly

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|l9„000#000 more
resources of

bank

Horth

resources than

Maryland*

The "banking:

Carolina had increased in the same time

252%* of South Carolina, Z W $ 9 and of West Ylrginia 109$,
but of Maryland only 61%*

seems

It

only has the Organization
that has the

is

to me that that

most

an important factor*

Committee

designated the city

intimate financial relation with the

fifth district, and .has the largest transactions
fifth district, but
and progressing at

not

it

with

the

has selected the city that is growing

a steady,

nearest to the section that

healthy rate, and which is

is

increasing normally and

rapidly*
Another factor in favor of Richmond Is that tha cus­
tomary course of business in the district is with Richmond
and not with Baltimore*
nothing

will

of

more fclearly indicate the trend

business

be­

in the district to Richmond than the banking relations

tween

Richmond and the other States In

the

district*

In

considering these banking relations it must he remembered

that

Baltimore was one

that

Richmond

as the

was

of

the original reserve cities, and

never a reserve city until its

Federal reserve

city

of the

fifth

designation'

district*

From the Comptroller1® report for 1912 it appears that
there are 580 state and national banks in Virginia, and

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that they carry in the Richmond hanks 528 accounts« In
Borth Carolina there are 429 banks, and they carry in
Rlohmond banka 397 accounts* In South Carolina there are
346 banks, and they carry In the Richmond banks 182 ac­
counts* In West Virginia there are £97 banks, and they
carry In Blehaond banks BE accounts*
The raaximua deposits carried In Richmond banks in 1913
by banks from Virginia, Itorth Carolina, South Carolina And
West Virginia are $12,653,769* The maximum deposits carried
in Richmond banks by individuals, firms and corporations
from north Carolina and South Carolina are f4,64£,366» The
maximum o£ deposits by banks, individuals and corporations
from llorth Carolina in Richmond banks is #7,690,820, and
from South Carolina f2 ,343,766*
From this It appears that banks, corporations and in­
dividuals in the d istrict, exclusive of Maryland, carried
on deposit in the Richmond banks over 117,000,000.
The maximum of loans made by banks in Richmond in 1913
to other banks In Virginia, Barth Carolina, south Carolina
and West Virginia was 16,174,175*
The maximum of loans made by banks In Hlchmond in 1913
to individuals, firrae and corporations in Borth Carolina
was |5,M5,451, In South Carolina 13,129,815*

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fhe m xim m of loana to ban s, individuals and corpora­
tions in Horth Carolina was, therefore, 17,445,931, and in
fouth Carolina

553,730*

To moot the demands for crops and other purposes,
Blchmond during* the year 1913 shipx>ed f‘14t0*v0t000 in cur­
rency into the southern States#
How, we have not those figures as to Baltics©re* I
wish we had*

1 hell ere that they would show that the claim

that Richmond is the financial cent or of the fifth district
would be established by them, and I trust that it is true
that the independent investigation made by the freasury
Departmentt which it was not in our power to make, will
establish the facts as to those things as to the city of
Baltimore, and X feel assured that it will confirm the
wisdom of the Organisation Coaamittee and lead this Board to
affirm its decision in designating Blchmond as the reserve
city*
It is a difficult matter to show clearly that Baltimore
is not the industrial and commercial center, but I accept
the statement of one of the witnesses for Baltimore that
convenience is the servant of commerce, and that it makes
the trade currents which create financial and many other
business relations*

Assuming that that is a correct prin-

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ciple, and X believe it to be, it is irresistibly establish­
ed that Kichmond, with its preferential freight rate, along
with the distinctive character of it s crops, is the conrniercial and industrial capital of the d istrict, and not the
city of Baltimore*
We

com©

now to what

my

friends have labored with, and

I am not going to deal with the to ll of banks taken

by

the

city of Richmond, but I am going to deal with it as taken
by the Organization Committee* I believe in the poll of the
banks in the district made directly by tho Coraprto11er*s
office Bichmond received 167 votes to 1S8 for Baltimore,
and that was a factor that my friends thought should have
an enormous amount

of

weight when first they appeared be­

fore the Organization Committee* and which they have de­
voted ao much time in their brief to minimizing and ridi­
culing* Those figures do not Bhow the fu ll force of Rich­
mond^ position, because in the poll 28 votes were cast
for Columbia, South Carolina, by banks in South Carolina,
and 19 for Charlotte, by banks in North Carolina, while
Washington1®

IS votes were cast

for

itse lf*

It ia clearly

established by the testimony that tho banlcs voting for
Charlotte and for Columbia favored Richmond as their second
choice, and we may assume for the sake of argument that




bank*

the

second choice#
Charlotte and
choice

by

of banka

Adding to Richmond

Columbia* and adding

in

f a m r of

the oity
a ll

the

number

and that in

of Richmond 214,

that

her second

would make the
me

their

by

second choice

to Baltimore

It seems to

moat conclusive factor of

and

her

the city of Washington, it

favor of Baltimore 140*

tee

as

of Washington way© in favor of Baltimore

that that is the
Organisation Commit­

this Board has before it in determining this matter

primarily, this banking problem of the selection
reserve city#

The banka know

which la

of

the

the city of conven­

ience, and where is the customary courae of business*

fhey

are not controlled by even so adroit a campaign as the city
of Baltimore which
controlled

by

could

fhey

not get a majority*

sentimental reasons, as evidenced by

are not

my

friend*s statement that a lot of banks in Virginia voted
for the city of Baltimore,

fhey

are hard headed business

men determining business requirements
iness that
they

they

know that

have had,

and

by the

course of bus­

by their convenience,

and

it is to Richmond that they must look for

more intimate acquaintance, for

the knowledge

of

their

a

fin­

ancial needs, and for the knowledge of their peculiar crops,
and that is why

one

of the witnesses before

the

Organisation

Committee said that he would be a little way from home to

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go to Baltimore*
Mow, I say that the best evidence of convenience and
the euetomary course of business is the showing of these
/

214 hanks, as against the 140 for the city of Baltimore;
that they know what are their financial needs; that they
know that it is to Richmond that they mmt go*
My friend has referred so much to the unwillingness

(7l!ccJiof tfee-MtrMre* to go into a district of which Atlanta was
the reserve city, and I recognise it9 but not because it
was not to the north of it, as my friend would argue, but
because Atlanta was a borrowing community and Richmond was
a lending community, financing the cities to the south of it,
and lending #34,000,000 approximately at a time when Balti­
more was lending less than $7,000,000, and that was the
reason why the cities did not desire to go to Atlanta, but
wanted to go to a city as tk x. their reserve city where
their financial needs could be met and where they had been
in the habit of having their financial needs met.
How, my friends say that we nevor dare to talk about
Richmond, as compared with Baltimore, in a district where
Baltimore was a member of the district*

Let us see whether

my friends are not in error in that respect also*
At the hearing in Washington before the Organization

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Committee M*# Norwood, of Greenville, South Carolina, and
Mr* Shett , of Columbia, South Carolina, while testifying in
favor of Bichmond &s the reserve city, both stated that
Maryland should be added to the district*
Mr* Bruton, of Wilson, north Carolina, testifying in
behalf of Hichmond, said that he would feel that "we would
be a litt le way from home to take us to Baltimore"*
Before the action of the Organization Committee Mr*
George A* Holderaess filed a brief for the Horth Carolina
Bankers Association, adding ?£aryland to the d istrict, and
makes a strong argument In favor of the selection of Bich#
mond as the reserve city of a district which includes Mary­
land*
It is difficult to understandt therefore, how this
statement can be made in the brief for the city of Baltimore|
I quote;
"It cannot be too strongly stated that before the
action of the Organisation Committee no one ever thought
of comparing Richmond with Baltimore, or questioning the
commercial and financial pre-eminence of Baltimore in what
has now been made the fifth d istrict*”
Yet there In the testimony of these gentlemen showing
that while the district, as mapped out by Bichmond, did not
include Maryland, that the fact that it might include Hary-

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land was contemplated, and

mond
this

that

the answer was at111

Rich­

in preference to Baltimore*

Row, X want

to say this*

matter as a

matter de novo,

It

seems

to me that talcing

that the weight of the

testimony and the record establishes the fact that instead
of Baltimore being

the

financial, indUBtrlal and commercial

capital

of the fifth district, and being the moet conven­

ient to

the

where

the

customary course of

convenience of the

would he best

subserved*

business.

customary

this

is

course of

Richmond

business

I say, as an original'proposition,

that is tine, but this does not come
proposition, as

It

Board

has

up

as an original

held when it gave to the

city of Baltimore the opening and the conclusion of this
presentation,.

It comes up not

as

an appeal, but as a re­

view of the action of the Organisation Committee by the

Reserve

Board, and may I

pause

for an instant to say that

a review is a common method used by the

courts,

that a

petition for a re-hearing is not an unusual thing, and ac­
cording to my recollection, though I
stances,

this

has been the

case

cannot

give the in­

in this country, that where

appellate courts are made up of the judges of the lower
court, that the judge deciding tha case in the lower court
has been a member of the

tribunal

to re-hear and review

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themselves.
How* I say that this

Organisation

Committee visited

eighteen different cities in their efforts to reach wise

conclusions*

and hearings wore

given

to over two hundred

cities thet came in touch with the financial men and the
business men of all sections of the common country.
wore authorised to employ experts and

counsel

sec how

delicate
of

this

counsel

‘
They

- I do

not

could aid so mu eh in that difficult and

discussion* for which* even in tho presentation
view

of

It, I feel that 1 am so poorly

qualified -

but they had the authority to employ experts and to make
independent investigations* and i say that the decision of
that Organisation Committee

is

courts*

primarily right in all

both State and Federal* and should carry as much weight as
is

given

to the wisdom of a jury or to the report of a

master or special master* and the rule* I believe* in almost
every jurisdiction is that such a report

shall

not

be

over­

thrown unless it is plainly wrong* and the burden upon my
friends is not such as It was before the Organisation Com­

mittee* !£he

burden is upon them

to

establish to

the

satis­

faction of thie Board that the action of this Organization
Committee

is

clearly wrong; otherwise* as the Board has

done in giving to them the opening and conclusion* following

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the

legal

its

decision, with

have with

principles in each
it

oatters,

the greater

unless

plainly

familiarity that

they

hearings

that they gave in these eighteen

hundred

cities, anti from the personal hearings of the two
cities, as the trial court, seeing the

testimony is
courts,

witnesses

and hearing

able thereby to give more intelligent

judgment and the proper weight that
say the

must

from their personal touch with the situation

from the personal

their

wrong:,

is

due to them, - so,

unless plainly wrong, it must be affirmed*

I want to say that I do not believe that our friends
realise the progress that the city of Richmond

has

the last two decades, more especially In the last,

made in

and

I

can understand their disappointment that in a controversy
of this sort, friendly upon our part at least, that the

prize,

which

could

be given to but one, case to ittchmond

Instead of to Baltimore*
to our own

.people

It may have been astonishing even

to know what the development had been,

because thirty years prior to those two decades a large
part of the city was in ashes*

Its wealth had been swept,

away, the flower of its manhood had 'been given in response
to the call of her State*

T he struggle during those thirty

years was a slow and laborious one, and
in this controversy that

we

remember even

in that hour when

we

were

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passing through the valley

slater city of
aid

that

she

Baltimore

did

not

of death

for sympathy,

that if the decision of this

city

by

And we

never

turned to our

encouragement and

and

respond promptly

we do not forget that today.

affirmed

we

efficiently, and

believe

Organisation

and we hope

Committee Is

this Board, that the time will come tshen the

of Baltimore at

least *111 not

he ashamed of

the

regional hank of Richmond as a worker In the development
of this great financial machinery which is to bring finan­
cial freedom and

equally
N

to all

sections

and all parts of

this country, and give flexible and stable currency, under
your wiffe administration of this Act
the financial history of

this

which is

country*

an epoch in

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OWBJMCr

IB

ARGTOBHT

OF ME*

FAVOR OF THE BBSIGlfAflOB

VERHON C O O K ,
OF

Gentlemen

VB DISTRICT.

the

of the Board, in

short

for oral discussion it ia impossible for
you
an

a ll tho many ways In which
advantage

City*

We

Richmond

over

can

How, as

argument

I

see it,

the

time
ue* to

for the location of

touch

a

reserve

on some of the

underlying theme or text of the

for Baltimore 1b this,

reservoirs

lay before

argument*
that

as wo look about the

country and find that the hills and valleys
natural

that remains

Baltimore, as we see it, has

therefore only briefly

more salient points of the

HD*,

BALTIMORE AS TS2 EBDERAL

ClfT K)H TEH FIF^H .FBDISRAL

BIS.EKV1

OF BAIfflHOHB,

for water, so

the

-make

certain

course of business and

the eaAgenoiee of trade form certain natural reservoirs

f o r surplus banking capital, and we claim that Baltimore
is, and always has been, one of those natural
banking capital,

and that Richmond

reservoirs

for

never wa®, and in the

nature of things, for a great many years to come never can

be

such

a

natural

reservoir

for money*

We claim also that Baltimore is not only a natural
reservoir, but a natural reservoir for this particular
fifth district, including these Statee* the Virginias, the

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Carolinas, Maryland and the District of
do I say this?

Columbia*

low, why

My opponents on the other side have mad®

some very startling; statements* it seems to me, but none

m ss
Mr.

hk)re

startling

to

me here

Hunton that Baltimore

the south, but has its

than

the statement made by

does not have

business

it s

business with

with the north.

Those of

us who live in Baltimore have been hearing for many years
about Baltimore*s

southern

trade, ono of the things we

always talk about# one of the

things

that wo work for, one

pf the things we pride ourselves upon possessing.
the facts?

Does Baltimore have its business in the south

or in the north?
11,

and m

What are

We have the figures in our brief on page

show that of

all the products

or

goods

raanu-

or
factored maak distributed by Baltimore, there is 137,000,000
worth distributed in the State of Maryland itself, and that
in the rest of this district there la '*>1 ,0 0 0 * 0 0 0 worth of
products distributed*

Bow, when we add those figures

together, the result is that TOp of our manufactured
products, and 70$ of the goods which our great jobbing
houses send out go right into this very fifth district*
Those are the figures on authorities that cannot be ques­
tioned, cannot be doubted, and. they are net forth in our
brief.
trict*

We say, therefore, our business is with this dis­

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# tJ

Take the great jobbing houses of Baltimore, turning
out as they do and selllne millions of dollars worth of
goods in the south*

The Baltimore Bargain House

75t000 accounts in the south*
Brothers has 10,000
result of
natural

this?

flow

accounts

The

alone

has

well known firm of Hearst

in the south*

What is* the

The result of this is that it makes, a

of money from the south, from this district,

into Baltimore#

These goods

are sold by the Baltimore

jobbers to Baltimore manufacturers and merchants in the
south#

They are sold on

credit, and when the time of the

year comes around when the southern

people

have harvested

their crops and have gotten in their money, they pay their
debts to Baltimore; then a flow of money comes in from these
thousands

over

of

accounts*;these

thousands

of

merchants

all

the south, who owe Baltimore, begin to pay, and there

is a perfect streme of money flowing from this
Baltimore*

district

to

After the crops -are harvested, after the great

demand for money In the south lets up, it flows back to
this city as the natural

place for

it to be as a reserve

center*
Then, in addition to that, not only

is

there the

flow of money from the southern merchants to tha Baltimore
wholesalers, but another great current that has set in

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toward

Baltimore

evidencing the

coupons
more

is the payment

of th©
is

interest that

dividends and

investors*

ingly of
a

the savings hanks

because

word or two,

in Baltimore

could

fifth district*
filed in the

not

How,

of

the capital of

the

be any good to

what

brief from Mr.

Baltimore savings banks which have
largely in
therefore

bonds,

is no

which ray

60#000*000 bonds

S3t0:X) ,000 f
States

low,

to the

good

rest of this

In

the let tor

E* Edmunds, the great

our

their

opponents

throe principal

money invested

would

south, Mr*

38JS,

represent

coupons

have

Bdmnnd

you think

out

says that

investments in

ten

come due, there is another current,

as I say, of money into Baltimore,

trust

further than that, there

companies in Baltimore alone

fiscal agents for E00f0'X>f000
fifth district alone*

southern

savings hank

of the Potomac and east of the Mississippi*

when these

are three

them

held by these three savings banks alone,

or more than

south

a

are the facts*"

Hichard

slight­

dismiss

Baltimore, and

statistician of the south, he says that

of

the

due to the Balti­

Bow, ray friends on the other side speak very

with

of

of

that

act as

southern securities in the

low, when the coupons on those

securities are paid, that all necessarily has to

be cleared through Baltimore*
Now, iisy opponents say that Baltimore does not under-

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the

stand

industries or

the

crops of this fifth

district,

and th e y call attention to the fact that their three great
crops are cotton* tobacco and peanuts, and they think we
do not understand

much about

Mont of

them.

that

tobacco,

as a matter of fact* is shipped through Baltimore*

We

think we hare a good deal to do at times with the financing
of the cotton crop*

considering

the

Hot very long ago* when this Board was

matter

asked to raise only

of the cotton pool, Richmond was

$1*000,000,

and Baltimore was asked to

raise 12*600,000 toward that pool*

of my

opponent's argument

tobacco conditions, to

those

are

the

in Ms

But the significance

mention of cotton and

my mind is this*

It is true that

three products of the Virginias and the Oar-

olinas* and it

lit

because they roly so largely on these

three products that they never can become a great
reserve center for

surplus ffcmds,

because*

as

in a

natural
manufac-

taring plant it la necessary to keep your plant going as
many aays

ness
time#

in

the year as possible* so, In the banking-

it is important to
A state

that

keep

busi­

your capital working all the

has three crops

only,

tobacco* cotton

and peanuts* can work a hanking capital only through•a
part of the yeax^

has only a seasonal demand* but the

places that become great banking centers and centers of

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reserve toads art

the cities that

cities, but cities that
capital,

only large

a diversified demand for

to In Baltimore have use for capital not only

In the tobacco,

season

use

days

for it 365

far you

hare

are not

and

out

the

peanut season, 'but

of the year*

1

do

not

gentlemen are familiar with Baltimore

real position,

but

wo say

we have

know how
and it s
the

in our brief that it is

leading city in the country in the manufacture of m e n ’s
clothing, in copper, in tin and sheet iron products, in

fertilizers, in
tanning

cotton ducfc,

and preserving

Baltimore

not

ufacturers,

business*

only handles

but it

is a

great seaport*

city

of

is

in straw

hate, and in the

In addition to

the business of

this,

it® own

man­

a great transfer point; I mean it
With the exception

Baltimore has more

exports

of

lew York, the

than any port on the

Atlantic Coast* We are ahead of Boston, and we are very
largely ahead of Philadelphia in the import business.
How, then* another thing w x n t not be lost eight of*
One fifth of all the capital of these reserve banks ie
contributed by the Baltimore banks; approximately one
fifth of all the deposits in this Richmond bank, the re*
quired deposits come from Baltimore*
mean?

That

How, what does that

means in effec t that one fifth of

a ll

the

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business
that It

this bank does, and one

is

go!ng

to

do

nmst

fifth

come in and out via

You cannot get away from that*

business

of all the

Baltimore*

When tha season of the

year comes when the South ie paying its debt to Baltimore*
and when

surplus

funds begin to

accumulate

in Baltimore,

we will send tip the proper proportion of them to Richmond,

and

when the season

comes

strain, and everybody

around again for the greatest

warta

reverve

to get' these

funds

at Blohaw&d, one fifth of them must come out via Baltimore*

because

known,

the re­

if the facte

will havo credited more than one fifth of

the paper eligible for

discount

How, a merchant in
who had

fifth of

a

that Baltimore,

sources, but it ie a fact
could be

contributes

Baltimore not only

merchandise to

foolish man indeed if

north

in

this

district*

Carolina or

South

ship to Richmond would be

he

Carolina

a

very

sent it up to Baltimore, with

instructions to turn it around and send it back to Bich-

mond,

yet,

gentlemen,

money in thie district

is

that

if

exactly what we do with the

yon permit the reserve city

to

stay in Richmond, because at every season of the year when
the .flow of money comes that way, we would have
in

to

Baltimore and back to

Richmond, making

it

flowing

a round trip,

whereas if you allowed it to come to Baltimore, allowed
these things to bo cleared in Baltimore, allowed these

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resources to 1)® piled up in Baltimore*. the s ituation would
bo Tory m noh simplified*

Those facts

are not new*

is anything discovered
already

been recognised

ment of

the

the

when

act*

If

we go

'by

that has

the

1364*

back to

Govern­
which

national banking aot was passed*

reserve cities were created,
regional

recognized

and been

Unitod States*

was

X believe

It is something

by us*

that that

am not claiming

1

Baltimore was

1 think 19 of
one

of

those

them* by the
cities; Richmond

was not* My opponents seem to think that gave Baltimore

a somewhat

artificial advantage over Hlchmond* but that

Is not the case, because a later act provided
city

with*

1

think* very little

population or banking

its bankers saw fit*

capital, could* if

that any

reserve city and oould bo made such*

be

made

Here is the

most

ask

to

startling thing in this proposition, that until
law

was passed

Hlchmond
was a

never considered apparently that

proper place to be a reserve city*

in and asked for such a thing*
city, Washington in
Charleston, South

this

Baltimore

They

was

a

Hlchmond

never came

was a reserve

District was a reserve

Carolina*

new

banking system, the

creating this new

bankers

this

a

reserve city*

city,
'They were

the natural reserve cities, and Bichmond had not even

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asked for it *

r-ov;

low* my opponent® cite a great number of argument©
ant reasons which they contend make In favor of Bichmond*
Let us look briefly at one or two of the®*
It if* said in the first place that Bichmond lends
more money in the south# as it ie put in the report of
the Organization Committee, and also in the brief*

£hey

claim that Bichmond lends $93,000,000. la the south, and
Baltimore only .$6,000,000* fhose figures might look very
important, but what are t&ose figures? 1m t us analyse
them a moment* what do they mean by the south' Why, when
you come to read through the report t you find that what
they mean by the south, the thirteen southern States,
includes Virginia but does not include Maryland* So that
when you say Bichmond lends #33,0>0,000 in the south, it
simply means that Bichmond is lending most of that right
in Ztlehmon&s it aimply means that Bichmond is lending more
in Bichmond than Baltimore 1® lending in Richmond,

But

i f you want to make a fair eepa^arison, a real comparison,
and tabulate figures and see in this district what banks
are lending the most money in the district, or in the
south, including Maryland, what banks are lending the
most money, there is not the slightest doubt la the world
that these figures will be entirely reversed*

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How, farther -.than that* another point that Is made

by our opponents is the point that they are nearer the
geographical center of the district.

JUst a-word on that.

What has the geographical center of a district to do with
a Question like this?

If we were going to establish the

point for a water rower plant, the geographical center
might hare certain advantages, but we are establishing a
center here for the banking business.
fore, where the banking business la*

You must go, there­
If you anarxg were

establishing a bank in Hew York City, and the directors of
the new bank in Hew York City should propose to put it out
in Central Park because it is nearer the geographical
center of the city than fall Street, would not they simply

make themselves a laughing: stock in the eyes of everybody?
Has the committee paid any attention to the geographical
centers in any of these d is tr ic ts , with one or two possi­
ble exceptions?

They have n 1 *

If you take the #ew York

District, lew York City is in the southeastern end of that

d istric t*

If you wanted the geographical cantar, you

would have to go up State somewhere about Utica*

If you

, take the northern 3)1 at riot and want to find the geographical^of that, I believe it is somewhere in the white
Mountains*

If you went oujr to the San Francisco D istrict,

and tried to find the geographical center of that, perhaps

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you

might hit Reno Instead of San Francisco*

So,

you could

go all through those districts ana Bhow that the geograph­
ical center

has

nothing to do with it*

TTe are not her©

like a lot of school boys trying to solve a problem in
geometry*

fhe

lines of banking and the course of trade

pay no attention to
attention to centers
constructed*

of possible

the

districts that may ‘
he

that the great cities and the great

hanking centers are of one of two
west*

they pay no

On the contrary, we find that when we look

country*

over our

geographical centers*

clansee

in the middle

fhey are the great railroad centers, particularly

great

railroad transfer points*

Host noticeable, of

course, are Chicago and St* Louis, and ^hea

we

airay

get

fro® the middle west and come nearer the Pacific Coast,
we find

that

these great centers are invariably

seaports of the country*

the

great

In Chicago and at* Louis the

railroads link together the eastern and the western lines,
and on the coast

the

other termini of these railroad lines

link themselves with the ocean liners, and these seaports,
therefore, are kept constantly

buey

because they have not

only their ow n business, but they have the handling and
re-handling of the business of the other sections

of

the

Country, something that is goi^g on all the year round*
How, our opponents say particularly that this Com-

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mitt© 6 , whose

report

is now up

for

review, lays a very

great stress upon what they ©all th# per capita argument.
That argument ie this*

7 hey say: ’’True, Baltimore is a

larger city; true, Baltimore has more hanging c a p ita l", and it ie not *?hown by them how great the disparity is - -

hut they say yiu must look not only at that* hut you must
look at the per capita* and then it is figured out that

the per capita

hanking capital -in Richmond

greater than it is in Baltimore*

ie considerably

At first blush that

might eeera to hare some force; it might seem to indicate
that perchance the people of Hichmond had some particular
aptitude for the banking business that leads them to put
their money into i t -in greater proportion than ether people
do.

What do you mean by banking per capita?

That means,

of course, the banking resources* divided by the number
of people*
that*

There are two factors there ’which will vary

A large banking capital, or a large bamrlng popula­

tion tends to decrease th® per capita, hut a small popu­
lation equally tends to increase the per capita.

We show

in the brief how this argument for Richmond is reduced to
an absurdity when we compare other cities with it and
show yon that the per capita In Richmond is larger than
the per capita in Philadelphia, Chicago and Hew York*
But it becomes even more striking to my mind when we

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compare It to p-ome of the small cities*

How, the Organisa­

tion Committee laid almost controlling stress on the fact
that Richmond had a capital and surplus and banking capital
of #73 per capita, higher than Hew York* Philadelphia and

Cleveland.
Bow, le t na look at a few small towns#

1

do not know

whether you are fam iliar with this place, hut we have a
little town called JSllicott City a few miles out B id e of
Baltimore, not noted as a hanking center, but very re­

markable for its banking capital#

£he fppulation will show

that while Biehmond has $73 per capita, Illicott City,
with something like a thousand population, has a per capi­

ta of |130 , almost twice as much as Richmond*

If we take

the mining t o m of Oakland in western Maryland, we find
that it has a per capita of $187; we find that Hockville,
f

not very far from here,^as a per capita of |200; Centervilie, on the western, shore of Maryland, has a per capita
of f2S5, as against Biehmond* a |73*

So that when we see

these figu res, the result evidently in- that your large
per capita argument simply proves that you are a small
city, and it is evidently all that it does prove.
low, then, the next point made is on the growth of
banking capital, and there m j opponents take great delight

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first of

all

in citing

that was appointed
of

the State

of

a

report of a Maryland

to study and

revise

all the

commission

taxing laws

Maryland, ana they apparently see® to

think that they have mad® a great point by quoting this,
because I

mission,
which

of

to he one of the

members of that com­

and they read a long eaetract In which we showed.,

was

Maryland,

the

happened

undoubtedly the

which

fact,

that the taxing laws

imposed a Tory high

rate,

of

of taxation on

national banks, had tended to retard the development
national banking capital

is this*

My opponents

Maryland*

But the point

on the other side, not

Maryland* and not knowing
there, appear to be

in

exactly

peacefully

living

what we are doing:

in

out

Ignorant of the fact that

partly as a result of that report ,

in

which I had some

little hand, the last jg^l@latur* of the state of Maryland
JUuS

taxation of our national
entirely new system,
banks, and they have' established an
an entirely new method of taxing the ban % very similar
repealed this burdensome

to the lew

York system,

with banking capital

in

of

tha

one

per cent tax*

Bo

that

I aryland relieved of this heavy

burden, we have the right to

look forward

with a reasonable

expectation to the rapid development of Maryland banking
capital In the future*

than

that, what does

But aside from that, and further •

this

growth of Richmond In its

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pant

banking capital in the
that

Richmond

growing;

is

tm

Why it

years show?

that is all* It does not show

it has gotten anywhere near Baltimore as jet*
deal with the

future*

present,

shows

not

with

the

past

or

We have

with

What is the proper reserve city today?

to

the

If

Rich­

mond ever does grow to proportions where it ia near to

or

Baltimore

the lifetime

superior to

of

Baltimoret i f

that comes

within

any man in this room, why this Board, or

some other hoard, can then change it* and take the reserve

city

hack from Baltimore to

Blchaond

simply

veloping city

the

But the fact

that

has grown faster in the past ten years than

.Baltimore

and is

Biehmond*

means this, that a growing city,

a

de­

- Blohmond is that* as ray brother has said#

notv^ftilly reviving fro® the disastrous effects of

Civil

War -

what

you might call a

young;

arid developing

city naturally grows faster than a city that has already
fully developed*

That is simply for the

a young child growe faster
prove any
is just

superiority

beginning

than

a

man*

same

that

reason

That does not

of the child over the man*

Hiohmond

to revive from the calamity that it

suffered many years ago, and we are
reviving so rapidly*

a ll

glad to see it is

We know Hiohmond has made progress,

and we think that we in Baltimore 2mve had some hand in
it*

How

many Richmond

securities have been sold in

Bal-

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tinm m ?

Why it

was

only

a salesman

office that

Virginia securities,
time*

yesterday as I was

0 am©

to

in. wanting

leaving my

sell m

some

and that la what we have all the

As Mr* Edmunds tells

you,

and it was a minimum

estimate, the amount of Baltimore capital invested in the
southern

States

below the Potomac Is 1200,000,000.

Another point

much discussed is

the poll of

Wei;, there are two polls of the banks*
raond poll*

the

banka*

One is the Hioh-

I have never been able to tinderstand that*

.1

have looked at it and tried to figure it out from their
brief, and

I

got -this far, that according to the

Richmond

poll Baltimore got nine votes in the whole district*

in

we have sixteen banks
satisfied

from that *

1

Baltimore*

How,

1 was immediately

did not g:o into it any farther*

the poll taken by the committee shows 167 banks voting
for

Richmond,

and 128 noting for Baltimore*

two comments I want to make on that*
at the time that the poll
did not
the

know ,

districts

you will
choice

was

fhere are

In the first place,

taken, the aouthern banks

nobody know, Just what the boundaries of
would be, and if you read the proceedings,-

evidently find that the southern banks had a

between Atlanta on the one hand and

Richmond

on

the other, and the- majority of them, the great majority
them, said that they

wwntod

to be connected -up with

of

Rich-

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6

raond, because th# ©ours® of business in this district was
from the south to the north, not ffcom the north to th©
south* As ono Borth Carolina banker salds * I f you con­
nect us with Atlanta* you connect us with a dead end#”
According to our opponents, that is a ll right* to connect
Baltimore with a dead end* In Jact, the whole situation
here, from thoir point of view* as to this d istrictt seems
to he that they started out with a litt le district they
mapped out for themselves south of the Fotomac* fhey
wanted to he at the north end, because they thought the
city at the north end would have the advantage* and they
mapped out the Virginias and the Carolinas, and presumably
they took in Rome more southern cities with it*

Then when

it began to be apparent that Atlanta was making strong
claim©f and that Georgia would naturally go with Atlanta,
the
then A
Virginia and Carolina district had to look around
for something else to make it £ac a full grown district*
fhey figure it out in on© of their speeches or briefs
somewhere here* which contains the expression that Biiiaa
&el phi a t being
district made up of Pennsylvania* MaryN

land wae le ft as a so;rt of floater* and they did not know
Just where to put that, m my friends from Blchmond then
come forward in a sort of supplementary brief or letter
and show that Maryland* being le ft in this p itifu l con-

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dltlon of a floater, that they will kindly open the doors
and let us In to their district#

fhat is their whole

attitude# tf?hey will let us in* £hey look to us for the**
resources, one dollar otit of every five they get from \im.§
yet we cannot have this bftfck because we are too near Phil­
adelphia, and I understand Mr* Bunton to say, what ie a
surprise to me* that Baltimore was an extreme northern
city*

I have lived there a ll ay life * and I oan say that—
Mr. EOTfOI:

I did not say that; at least I did not

intend to say anything of the sort#
Mr* COOX:

I f you aid not say i t , that is the end of

it* but I understood you to say that i f the fotir hanks
were given to Boston, Philadelphia, Hew York and Baltimore,
you would h&vo four in the extreme northern part of the
country* We have been taught to believe that Baltimore
is sort of on the boundary line, eo to speak, and in con*
sequence mainly and largely has been a southern city! and
we feel it ie the gate to both the Routhern and northern
States# we feel It is the gateway between the north and
the south, ai3d as that gateway it is entitled to recognition
by reason of the securities it holds, by reason of the
business that it does*
How, look at this Juot another way* Suppose you
gentlemen were the real owners of this bank for the fifth

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d istrict, and suppes# you wanted to put it in the place
where it would ho a success and m ke money for yourselves
as stockholders or for other stockholders, oan any man
within the sound of my voice hare a shadow of a doubt that
you would place thiB bank in Baltimore where you could get
hold of seme business, rather than in Bichmond where you
would not have anything like the chance?.
£ook at the things which Baltimore business men look
at# £ook at our foreign trade# Socle at the grain we are
exporting right now to the warring nation® in JSurope, and
the hank acceptances, the foreign hankers1 acceptances
that are Bold in lew York* Bichmond in her hrief says
they can s t i l l be sold in Hew York, and Baltimore 1® not
going to suffer.

That is not what we arc here for* We

are not mktn$ an argument for the benefit of Baltimore*
It is true that our pride 1st somewhat hurt that we are
passed over, the seventh city, as we claim the sixth city,
in the Union passed over for the thirty**ninth city* and 1
appeal to you, not for the good of Baltimore, but for the
good of this fifth reserve d istrict, to put this bank
where it belongs, and put it where it can get business*
Bo not sit down and say, as my friends do5 l»et lew York
gobble up that foreign acceptance business as it always
has*” We say: nIo# send this bank over to Baltimore where

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It can make a fight for It, and where it east get it* w
And I say to you that we are not her© asking for this
bank for Baltimore* s benefit#

Perhaps it may benefit

the banks of Baltimore in s»ome respects, in drawing
Borne local business, but we want this bank to be a one*

cess, and we believe it ie goine to be a success*

I

believe you can m k e a Federal regional bank work anywhere* even if you pat it in the back woods* but we want
to make it work well and against the least resistance*
Water ©an run down hill but you can force it up hill if
pumps,
you construct an artificial system of^reservoirs and pipes*
I say you can make a regional barik work anywhere, but if
you want to make it work to the best advantage and with
the least friction, you nuot m k e It work according to the
laws of nature* according to tho laws of business and the
course of trade* you must put it* and I appeal to you gen*
tleswtt* to put It not in an artifioial reservoir where you
have got to be pumping all the time against resistance to
get thin money to Bichmond, but put It in the natural
reservoir whera it belongs, and which

we

insist is Balti­

more*
$he OHAIHKABi

We want to express our appreciation

of the great ability shown by both aide* in presenting

\

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thia case.

v;e will take it under advisement and later

advice you of the decision.
(Whereupon, the hearing wai; adjoitrned) •