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Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives APPEAL TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD FRQK THE ACTIOH OF THE ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE HI DESIGNATING RIGKMOKD, VIRGINIA, AS THE R$3ERV$ BAM OTTER •OF THE FIFTH DISTRICT -INSTEAD OF BALTIMORE, MARYLAND. HELD AT UNITED STATES TREASURY DEPARTMENT, fASHIKGTOH? D* C. January 6 , 19X5. Reported byi Rexford L* Holmes, Offioial St@no3 m1ih.0 r of Hearings, $33 Southern Bl&g. i Washington, D. C* R ep rod uced from the U ncla ssifie d / D ecla ssified H oldings of the N ational A rchives 1 5?h© .Pr©iild©nt of th© Board i Gentleman, this As a motion for th© review of th© nation of th© Federal Basorve Bank Organisation Ooraraittea, in daaigniting Richmond as th® iaiaral Baa©rv© City for the Fifth M a t riot* Petition© hav© boon duly filad, and brio.ff» also hav© boon filed, to the order of proaatfar® on opening and oloaing# I would bo gl^d to hour from both aid©# as to that point# I would like to a nk fir sit »a Mr* Chari©a ftarleell, Ooufcaal for th© City of Baltimore Xf th© Board pl©&s©, w© aattuy* that following th© ordinary praoe**nr© of l©g©l tribuzutla, it would b© our right, a© app©lla©a, to open and elo»© th© argument, it having boon' our intention to provide m opening and ©losing argument* Th© ?r©aidant of th© Board t Th© D o m s ©1 for Mohmondf we would b© glad to hear from you* Mr# 1© Legh R# as^tra© th^t fag©, Caunael for th© City of liiohmonds that would b© th© ©our a© of proceedings, if on th© part member© of th© Board* "a shall b© entirely willing leave thla matter to the d.ls'ort'-tlon •■f tha Board* there b© no objaation to suoh procedure 'l?he ^r©aidant of th© Board? me to As X understand, th© Boird ha© allowed two honra for thi> hearing* to of th© th%t Baltimore, being tho moving p*.rty, It asanso — that thay should have th© right to open and olos©, and th© Board would suggest an opening-, of ©ay# thirty minuta#, and than Biahraond an hour, and th© remining ’time to b^ t^ken up by Baltimore} and. of th© 1 would suggest that either or aitia© should. both have Reproduced from the Unclassified) Declassified Holdings of the National A rc h iv e T " ^ ... ‘.......................................' ' ’ .......... ...... ■' ... ............... an opportunity for five minutes to sum tip at the close; and. the Board will be glad to extend th«t time; so i f that ie agreeable to you a l l , we will consider that as settled* (?!& are mking a desperate effort to have that clock fixed-* indicating a cloak in the room hut we will get the time as nearly as possible in some other way.) 3e will call on Baltimore then to open* Mr* Charles Marke ll, Gounsellfor the Gity of Baltimore If the Board please, before opening the argument , vte wish to make on behalf of Baltimore a preliminary motion which we assume will be unnecessary, but which we feel it our duty to make* and th t is , under the rules of the Board requiring oil questions of jurisdiction to be raided at this time, we wish to move that, when the Board takes this cane up for consideration and deciBionof the case be par ticipated in only by the five appointed membrra of the Board, and that there be no participation by either of the two ex officio members of the Board, who are also, as such, members of the Organ155 ati on Committee, whose action is the cause flfir this appeal# The act of Congr^as, — the terms of the act of Congress regulating thi*s right of review ar<* extremely brief* The aot doea not go into details, as many procedural a Hs do, i f dealing with technical legal matters, because it was intended that this? Board should not be #ovarne<- by technicalities, but we assume in the acts of the committe by this Board, it wee not intended by C0ngre88f and nothing is in the ^ct indicating such intent, to depart from ordinary principals Jrtelassifiedl Declassified Holdings of the National Archives of jurisprudence underlying a ll law, one of which principal# is that Such a review should be before an unprejudiced tribunal, which has not formed an opinion which would dis qualify its members. from reviewing the ease with., open ;^inde^.. With that view, which seems to us the clear spirit of the act, though expressed in brief language, it would seem that this appeal should be heard by the five member® m d that the hearing should not be participated in by the other two. Of course those general considerations are only strengthened if we look to the Organisation Comittee, because the Organisation Committee comprises the two g& offio 1c jERSjabers, who are representative o fficial officers of the Government, who are evidently put on the Board because of the eminent desirability that in the practical working out of this act, the Board should be in touch, as it is mde in touch by the presence of those two members, with the important financial departments of the Government* That reasoning does not apply to a matter not looking to the practical working of the act, but to the origination of the act, the putting of this act in motion. There is no occasion for having the joinder of these Treasury Officials with the Board, but on the contrary the appointed members under the act, are required by the President to be selected with a due regard 'to the geographical divisions of the country# so it seems that we » y properly press this point, not only in view of the fundamental requirement that a review should be a real review, bef-cre a court which has not expressed its views ©r arrived at a decision, but in Reproduced from the Unclassified? Declassified Holdings of the National Archives this case also t a review by the Board with representatives of the districts of the country, not merely an official hoard at Tashlngton. So much for that point; and with that preliminaryt X will >rooeed to what we consider the merits of the case* The President of the Board: May I ask if you raise that as a question of lawf or as a question addressed to the dis cretion of the Board? Mr* Mark»ll: t?e rai e the point in both respects; we think it i» eminently a question of discretion* i f the Board Bhoald feel any doubt as to the legal rights of the parties. As a matter of propriety, those two gentlemen should not participate* But wo also raise the quootion as a natter of law, because we think a right of review given by the statute means a real review# — a real re view not participated in by judges whose minds have already been made up* * nd who have already sat in that case* fhe President of the Board: I would like to know whether lUchraond aocjuiesoes in this suggestion; what their attitude is in regard to it* ffe would be very glad to hear from you/ fhe Counsel for the City of Richmond: fhe City of Richmond wo Id be very glad to defer to the discretion of the Board with regard to this matter. We are entirely willing to let the matter rest In your hands* The act provides the m nner of review, and the question that has been raised presents a matter of law and a matter for the discretion of this Board* feel that the Board is able to determine that question. from the Unclassffieil Declassified Holdings of the National Archives afAfsssif or teu c& jam MBm &9 Qomnm foa tm Q t n .a? u v z w m u If th» Boa*# piosae, that bo inf? aubudttod for tlio o o ^ t a u m t i o n of tha Bo&rd* X wish now to nrfttead wij#l tfea m i n argiaiant m tbs write of t M s appeal* It is tli© oontontioa of BaXtiaore tbat wo tbtn& ia bob « # ont# and Is irrosilatably borne ontf by tlio feet* diaouasiad ia more detail by omr brief* that tbe City of Rle&ti**** abenXd be am da tkt Federal l^senrc Bank eentisr i«at£$d of tb* City Btob»on«* ?re aim only refer to tfe**e petntr in tke limit*# time a l l o w s wo oont nft that tbe oonvtmionoo and emetomary eonrae of buain*«f»v wit« a duo Toward for tba ouustomry oonree of Iraatneaa wMob ia Tttinira4 toy the aotf absolutely re$u*re» tb&t Baltimore be designated a a tbe Heaerve City in tbia fifth Mfttriot* instead of Hiobmond* and fnrthraaore * wo want you gentlemi-B wbo aontftitnte thia ,3oar& Of review to etamthe tfea *»*t»!*otttn$ -of tba comittee itse lf* Ton will ftad that *tho re*aefetM£ of tfca eowrattt*** tb* nrimeipala on whlefc they fa*,t?d ins rvnottaalXy avary otbar d i s t r i c t , escort tMa, r*cjntrea the t*w.o resu lt$ and e till faarfcJ*ert we mint yon ta .look to the Tory a^blt and energetio oonteet m^de 'fey the Oity of Biehmond ita ^ lft and their argument bofore the Org^ntsatlan £ommitt*e* *h*ae ar-niraanta not on ly Aid not onll fa* prabordtnating the City of Baltimore to Blahftand in the dlatrlot to wfeieli both ?boftl& belong* bat they never breamed of belng m& 6* a Baaerve eityf exoept in a diatriat whioh would not inelnda Baltimore.* Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Taking that up, and re fe rrin g to some o f our reasons, f i r s t and foremost we say that Baltimore is the commercial, fin a n c ia l and in du strial c a p ito l of th is whole d i s t r i c t , the point at which and to which the business o f the d is t r i c t n aturally converges, that in every esse n tia l respect, so fa r as fin an ce, commerce, and industry are concerned, Baltimore is about fiv e times as important as Richmond. How we present an array o f s t a t is t ic s on that su bject in our b r ie f and it would not only be impossible in the time allowed, but a waste o f time I think, when the matter is set out there, to weary the Board at th is time with a mass o f s t a tis tic s * I w ill only, by way o f illu s tr a tio n , hurriedly run over one or two o f these fig u re s : The population o f Baltimore in the 1910 census was 558,000; the population of Richmond was 127,000. The manufacturers o f Baltimore, — th a t1s another matter that is s t a t i s t i c a l , in the sense that i t is covered by the United States census, — according to the 1910 census the c it y o f Baltimore, and th is means the c it y lim its , which are very lim ited, as you know had 2,502 establishments* Baltimore Metropolitan D is t r ic t had 2,668, while The Richmond had 380... The amount o f c a p ita l according to the assessment in Baltimore was 164,000,000 in the Metropolitan d i s t r ic t , 199,000,000; and in Richmond 31,000,000* The value of manufactured products in a year in Baltimore is 000*00; mond in the Metropolitan d is t r i c t $47,000,000.00. 1186,000, $260,000,000; in Rich 71,000 wage earners are employed in Baltimore| 81,000 in the Metropolitan District* and 14,000 In Hiohmond* Sfhere9& the ratio of fully five to on©# low, of course# we dl&aUB3 jobbing, transportation, anct other details in our brief* I only mention the above in pausing* Many other details we also disousaed, shipping of oourse, though there is no ratio there, beoause Hiohmond has no shipping in any substantial sense• In Baltimore you have a great Atlantis seaport, a city that ranks second to Hew York with respeot to exports, and as we shall show hereafter, this matter of export trade it s e lf is of vast importanoe under the aot* Baltimore, In its foreign trade, had 1117,000,000 of exports and f 715,000,000*00 of imports in 1918* fhe fig ures for JUohraend are aero, so we oan have no r- tio thercj there is no basis for oomparisen* And the shipping in Baltimore, in addition to its foreign trade, la enormous# fhe report of the government shows the value of the comraeroe —* foreign and domestie trade amounted to over %43H#000,000 daring 1913* How thOBe are sipply illustrations that we go into in detail, and the only dlfferenoe between ;>r;e item and another wonia be not a question as to whether .Baltimore or Hiohmond in ahead, but how muoh Baltimore 1® ahead, whether fiva tidies, or two times, or ten times* ”he ratio differs, but th«? relation is always the same* low these figures always show that Baltimore Is * £ P P m * * f l R 555S » e i W * e m F W ^ ----- -------------------------------------- - 1 1 " l" " " 1 - ......... ■ 1 ».'• || *' -1 ' ! •- "P 1 Reproduced from the Unclassified"! Declassified Holdings of the National Archives **> V-»* far shsad of Richmond la svsry branoh of oomjwros and i»~ duwtry, sad *vs*y gtsat aiasslfioation of and I**~ dustry* But ths figures also show that this nas* *f 1m*~ Imi In Baltic r# haa a mo*t l&tisaats ralattaa ta this vt*y distriot itself# jm £*td»*d| nhsn y#u examine the tw % n , will find the Organisation Oomlttoe, In laying out the Halts of this district, Has pioked out a district tffvleh la alvays ootasmlma^ and that the talma of eojamaroe always prsdrat&ates in Baltimore. 0nly an illustration or two of that* -- then to pass on to other points* Is refer la «m* brief to the enornous voltnaa of t*ha shipping trade in Baltimore* tunning up into the mi&liens* $00*00$ in 191$* a vs* How that i*3 not only largo in Itsslf j but that shipping trade is almost entirely dons in • tills r%r? Fifth Bistriot* and the figures in the *?rl#f that data haok to ths reoord before the organisation domittos show over seventy per m n t of the products of Baltimore shippers and muuf&eturers distributed in this Fifth M s triot alone. fii<3 m m # is true in asaMmls ds?#li>pra®&t<» The great Baltimore ttust ocwpsnlss %nd the Baltimore savings hanks — and Eiahmoad hat rather showed a slight lag attitude toward tooth trust so»panias and savings banka* for the vary asosss** ry reason that Kialmond has not very ttacre has* — mmy of those and BaJU tot these very .Institutions that ao-iatitute so iapertant a part of taeriean huslmm lift have thair a#» tivltlea Imsdlatsly ,cilrested to the vary darslopasnt of the othsr parts of this 41st riot that are now taade the fifth Bistriet* the savings banks ~ ths Matual savings banks — Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives P in Baltimore, liar© figures showing 123,000,000 invested by three of the mutual saving* banka alone in bond# in south ern enterprises, and of course everyone knows that not only banks but the trust companies especially are almost exclusive ly or largely devoted to economic development in the South, this makes up a volume of business which makes Baltimore in comparable with Richmond in alas and Importance* and moreover a volume of business which Baltimore does in and for this very Fifth District, and which creates a constant stream' of busin ess from the district to Baltimore* and makes Baltimore the center, not only of business in a general sense* as a large city, but in a special sense as the financial* commercial and industrial capital of this district. The same is true as to banking figures* Those figures are set out on page 19 of our brief, and Mr* has commented upon these tables which simply show la ocular form that which is shown in figures in the brief* and those tables make it possible to grasp with the eye, without ay mentioning the figures* the utterly incomparable relation between banking resources in every detail between Baltimore and Richmond. If members of the Board will examine the briefs, and look at the tables, they can see this difference at a glance. It is un necessary for me to take more time to call your attention to the matter, fhe ratio is greater in some items than In others* but in every case the enormous preponderance is in favor of Baltimore over Richmond* Reprodueed from the Unclassifiedf Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Something has been said by the organlast Ion Committee and ia the Biafcmond brief, m to what bank will be ©on-* sidered. Tlell, now, the Organisation Committee very summarily disposed of the matter by ignoring state bank® and trust companies* ©le Hiohm>nd brief is an arbitrary way, combined national and state banka, ano. ignores trust companies and savings banks. It seems to ms perfectly clear that any comprehensive view of this Federal Beserve aot will show immediately the faot that Congress, in passing the aot,— and everyone who has to do with the administration of the aot understands this point| no line knows better than this Board the importance and neoftaaity that at sometiiie the state banks and trust companies must a ll be regarded as independent of our system j and it is he desire of every body, and one of the important problems of this Board is to work out how they will be coordinate with the national basks* they may be brought in as teohnioal members, as the act provides, far o tslde, like non-members of ole?'ring houses. But it is futile to ignore sach banking capital that happens to be outBide the mere national banks* But it is not neeesaary for us to dwell longer on thin point, for the same reason that I have already indicated, because whether we compare Hiohmond and Baltimore on the b sis of national banks or whether you include state, trust and sav ings banks f or whether we form any kind of n combination such as national and state basks that 3blie mind can suggest, or imagine, — the only difference is not a question as to whether Baltimore or Hichmonci stands aheadf the only thing we can debate about is the degree of predominance p ill ,1 .. J U W m itiiU im . II.....i M < y u u n » w v » H « » . - ....... .......................................................... Reproduced trom the Unclassified i. Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3.1 not Juggle the figure® any way that will show that Richmond predominates over Baltimore. You ©m m juggle them some way so the difference will be two to three or four to fir® i or five to ® lxf .or seven to eight, or tan to one, but it seems to u® fruitless to' debat® question® of-multiple®, fh® point that our insistence is laid upon Is the fact that. Baltimore 1® predominantly the city, and that when w® sake our estimate we would ®ay about fire times a® large a® Bidhmondf hut it 1® fruitless to go into detail with them, A® we point out in our brief, it 1® Impossible to take a vl«w of thl® situation without considering a ll the banks, and it Is pe culiarly appropriate in the ease of Baltimore, there its trust companies and savings banks are primarily, you might say, a ll helping the development of these southern state® that go to make up the Fifth Diet riot. How so much for those details, and as 1 say, they are mentioned merely by way of illustration* The more you go into the®, the more details you get, the more emphatic becomes the abac lute predominance of Baltimore over Richmond, and th® impossibility of comparing the two* Finding that situation to be the ease, namely, that Baltimore does predominate in population, banking resources, finances, manufacturing, commerce, and when you come to ship ping# the foreign trade itse lf presents auoh a comparison be tween mm and a large quantity, as to emphasise the predom i n a t e of Baltimore over Richmond* f® next look at the action o f the Organisation Committee, and we naturally suppose that, in a condition like the one on whicih we find the Organisation Committee has undertaken to You oan Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 1O •a subordinate Baltiraor© to Richmond, wa would suggest that their action evidently as a general rule has not indicated that they paid mob attention, to (juestlons of sla© and import ance, because we would naturally expeot that Baltimore had been singled out for such diaorigination apart from the rest, when we do actually look at what the cobbs ittee did in the other district*. The fact la that in practically every other case except Baltimore the coxc<tee was absolutely guided by uhat 1® a perfectly proper thing to be guided by, namely* by the fact that the largest city — the city that stands ahead in population and business ought, by reason of that fact, to be tha reserve city in the district, What did the cottalttee itse lf do? Determine now fmm the facts, and apply to their own reasoning those facts. fhy# thaae are the facts: In ten out of the twelve districts the coaaittse selected as the reserve city the largest city in population.. In that district. In only tiro districts did the committed undertake to subordinate a large city to a smaller# and thoaa two districts were the lew Orleans and th# Baltimore dis tric ts. low even In the Hew Orleans d istrict, they subordin ated law Orleans to Atlanta* which has a population of onehalf the »im of Hew Orleans, but sven there the district was formed In such a peculiar way that everyone knows, as the oobi^ mittee remarked, that the course of business in that district is mot from Atlanta to lew Orleans; the course of business Is from the Gulf toward the East; and whether 'Em Orleans has bean badly treated or not,, we are not her® to ask* Bo that even If they gave recognition to the largest city in that Reproduced ifrom die Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 13 d istrict, we would have had to turn the course of busJAess backward, so that does not parellel the Baltimore situation* But in our d istrict, i f the Board pleaae , they had not only subordinated on© dity to a smaller city, hut two citie s, Baltimore and Washington, — that are bo closely situated goographically, that they practically amount to on© enormous city, and they have subordinated both cities to the city of Biehmond; and in addition to subordinating large cities to snail cities, they undertook to do the very thing they said they would not do in Bew Orleans, to turn the oourso of trade backward, by sending business from Baltimore to Richmond , when everybody knows, and when the committee has said, in the report that the c o u r s e of business 1b north ward from the South* Te ask you to apply the reasoning of this* committee its e lf, and aea what the re milt a would be* Baltimore., the seventh oity of the Union, and Washington the sixteenth are subordinated to Richmond, the thirty ninth, and in a Edition to that the course of business is attempted $o be turned backward, and only one other city in the United states, Few Orleans, has been subordinated to a smaller city; and that was In a district where it is necessary to turn th« course of businews backward? Where as in this case they did both# In the Cleveland district let m see what has been the case* $hyt in the Cleveland 3istriot the Organ!nation domraittee disposed of the problem in two sentences* Curiously enough they put it under the head of Mohnond district. I do not know why they should call attention to such, an anoinallyI The * •' • Ummdlm^ Holdings ofthe National Archives . Lcommittee i\T v V ^ * > And that1 a ail the Kfca Organisation Committee said about Justifying thei? •eleetion o# Cleveland, cor.para Cleveland with Baltimore* oity in the United Statea* How, lot ua Cleveland la the aixth It baa 561*000 people; Baltimore ia the seventh, with 588,000 people, and Pittsburg is the eighth, ^ith 535,000* All throe are p%ctioally the mm* aiae, ao far aa papulation la oenoemed* And not t^o of tfcoa* oitlea are 1*> tho v#ry same di at riot* Cleveland and »Plttaburg are praotiaally tha aa&e alae, and fx x ttw x praotJbalJr the aaisa alaa at aa Baltimore* do? *nd *hat doea tha Ooir^lttee The ooiralttaa aaya without any further argument, that tha faot that Clevojiand la the *lxi)r oity,ojtlthou$i Mttaburg,tha eighth la almost tha aama alaa* la tta sufficient in it^lf* Tha sixth large at oity 4-* that is in itseltenaughto justify saakln^ Olevelant the reserve oity* and throw- Ing Plttaburg into Ihe discard* and yat with three thousand iin population separating Cleveland and Baltimore, they atop at the sixth city, and isastaad of applying the a*me reasoning to tha seventh olty, they take the seventh and ■sixteenth oitiaa together, and taok them on to tha thirty ninth olty, and in addition to that try to turn the oourae of hualnaaa backward, i n ordar to do th%t! low, gentleman* v* ask you to apply tha masoning that •the official " the Organisation Committee applied to the esae of Cleveland and Pittsburg* that are the facts about Cleveland and Pittsburg? It is that according to the conditions* there is no single reason that the committee reached in other districts that ©imported a selection of Cleveland over 3?irtsburg except the me* weight In population* «hen you come to examine th© sta tistic s whioh the members of the Board pretend to be guide<> by in the Richmond case, Pittsburg outclasses Cheveland in ©very point* I have not tine to delay your honors, — the Members of the -!»oard with that but it is so striking* £et me run over the lasjr two tables in the Organisation Committee *& records, showing the figures for national ra ti l all banks j Members of national bantes in Cleveland, seven; in Pittsburg 21# Capital and surplus Cleveland, #14,000,000*00, P itts burg, *46,000,000*00* ter dapita, Cleveland, ^§,000,000; Pittsburg, $88,000 000*00* Individual deposits^ Cleveland ^40,000,000; Pittsburg, #1£0,000*000*00. X^er capita, Cleveland, |78,000,000*00, Pittsburg $285*000,000.00* Loans and discounts, #! §8,000,000; Pittsburg, *030,0 10.00, ^er capita, Cleveland, $112,000,000; Pittsburg, ^233,000,000* And then, when you go over a ll the figures pertaining Reproduced from the Unclassified f Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Eluding not only national banks, bat others, you h«ve the pame thing through the whole l i s t ; Cleveland Is far be~ lilnd Pittsburg in ev«ory single Item., ?>o th t is why the ^Organisation Comnlttee thinks in other d istricts, In every ftlstriot, exoeft in a partial sense, the Hew Orleans dis tr ic t, — that's what they think, namely, that the i®~ |>ort«noe of & oity bein>* the largest oity, the mere pre dominance of the sixth over the eighth, 1b enough to Dutweigh a ll this inequality in banking resources, so far #B Pittsburfc and Cleveland are concerned; bat In the ease #f Richmond, Baltimore and Washington are both thrown out* Thlle on that point w® may take up another question* *nd dispose of it , so far as oral argument is concerned, $noth r point that P.lohaond leys great stress on, and that is this pol^ of banks, one of the things the Organisation <|oHiialtte© refers* to as justifying their selection of $iohaiond rather than Baltimore# What about that pole of banks? There are three answers to that; First, and moet Obvious la that Congress doee not say anything In the law *j?bout a vote of banks being t ken as the basis #tfr selecting tlhese cities# It woiild fieera to us, i f there was any subject ttihat was absolutely argt*ed in Congress, and that nothing more cjould be added to, It was, how far the banks sho Id, and tjhe pitblio or the Board should have a say in determining tjhe operation of this act, and when Congress gave the hanks tjie rite to vote a certain way on certain questions, and gjfcVe this Board and the Organization Committee the duty and right to pick oat reserve c itie s, the inference is olear that Congress realised that this was not one of the things to ho determined by a vote, hut by national cons idera t ions; and yet by petty oampaign methods among the hanks* in a dis tric t. So i t aeetns to us that Congress nev^r intended a matter of this kind to be determined by a vote, and there are obvious reasons why it is so* A vote of bnnks is de termined largely by sentimental consideration^ and it is obvous that the pole in this oaset — It is obvious that state pride would lead Virginia tomfcs to vote for Hiohmond* Eleven did not do so, notwithstanding state pride, but state pride would load Virginia banksto vite for Bichmond, regardless of business considerations;?*! and i f you analyze the vote, you will note that as to th© second choice votea, nobody in Maryland ever loted for Richmondf for second or third choice, and yet the Virginia brinks voted very largely for Baltimore as second and third ohoioo* In addition to that, the vote th*t the committee itse lf took over the whole United States shows what the country thinks of this district as a whole* Over & thousand votes that the committee took contains suggestions not only from the districts p rtioularly interested in and contiguous to this Fifth district, but from a ll over the country, and over a thousand bmks, suggested that Baltimore should be one of the eight of twelve reserve citie s, and only three hundred — some odd — sug ested Bichmond, and tf you compare the rge centers, Hew York, Illin ois, Ohio, where the larger banks hnve been situtated, Richmond did not get a handfull of suggestions from those iKtuc&f from me Urrdassified /Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3 localities** But, gentlemen, aside from the fact that this wa* a mutter to be decided, on national ground® and on broad consideration* and not by drumming up votes on any very energetic and very able basis, as it may be, the realt truth afr*he matter is that these facte do not indicate anytlling more than the fact that a larger numbers of banks voted for BichMond, and the vote itse lf shows that the predominance among the bankers, if you .measure their votes by their weight of business, is in favor of Baltimore* that is disdussed in our brief, and I cannot delay any longer upon its but the exclamation is simple, and that is that down there in Virginia and the Carolina* they have rnny sta&lX banks, and if you count one bank one vote, and ten banks with $25,000*00 capital each as ten times more than our Baltimore bankers with isillicns of dollar* in capital and surplus that is the way you get a predominance of votes in favor of Bichmond over, Baltimore, but if those votes were taken according to the weight and size of the banks and volume of business, the predominance would be in favor of Baltimore* In addition to the fact that the law doe* not authorise thi* question to be decided by a vote of banks, and in addition to the further fact that the voting itse lf if you give might to the sisse of the bank, emd not merely to the nuiaber, would favor Baltimore, the committee itse lf does not pay any attention to the vote of the banks because you only have to look at the Cleveland district where everything was in favor of Pitteburg, aAd , l l l '??epfai,u iyd from'the Unclassified fo e c k s ifle d Holdings of the National Archives against Cleveland, except tb# and glad) and what was pm m m M am m in the vote there? Of the f votes there Cleveland got about one hundred and ten votes out of six hun~ dred and some, Cleveland got less votes, barely one-third as many votes as Pittsburg* and barely half as many as Olnoinnati in its own State, and in Ohio there were more cities voting for Cincinnati than for Cleveland. How.-, gentlemen* that shows what the vote amounts to, even with the Organisa tion Committee Itself. So much for the question of votes! low, Just a word more on what the people of Richmond themselves think of the situation, and that must be summed up in a words Hlohaiond went before the Organisation Cojaaittee and had a very carefully prepared brief, prepared by Mr* Saye, which expresses the governing idea of the entire brief in one of the opening sentences. The text of that brief was just such as might have been prepared by any able lawyer, al though Mr* Saye is not a lawyer, and that text was stated in the first sentence, that * Nature had mapped out a perfect dis tric t, bounded on the north by the Potomac.* How, the whole of Richmond* s argument in their brief, and the argument they made at the hearing before the Organisation Committee, was an .elaboration of that text. They realised that they were con tending primarily with Atlanta, in a district south of the ’Potomac, and m far as Baltimore was concerned, so far as their problem was concerned, their district ought to be bound ed on the north by the Potomac. They realised that if you put Baltimore in the district, it would be the head of the district; tne of the men fro® South Carolina .1 Il l l U M llM IW IIl W . M . .. I I .HHM1IU IH IHHl. H W tJ .l - l^6f)foduc6d from the Unclassifietff Declassified Holdings of the National Archives showed that clearly* They asked him about putting Maryland in the district, emd he immediately answered, *1 do net think it would he a good thing to hare the reserve hank away ftp in a corner of the district. That would mice Baltimore the head of the d istrict, by putting Maryland in the district** That is the only logical reasoning* My time is almost gone, and I shall only want to refer very briefly to one other point* It Is our conten tion that Baltimore is geographically the logical location for this bank, --geographically in a real sense* That is already answered by what we have said about the relative importance of the banks, because locating a bank is not a geographical question, not at least in any such an im portant sense as Richmond would indicate* The most im portant geographical question is to put the bank where the largest amount of business is, not where the outside business c«*n go with least inconvenience, that is close to its own doors* And in that sense Baltimore being five times as great as Hichmond, would have had the advantage« Then there are other reasons, and a ll are in favor of Baltimore* One is, the coiraaittee realised in the Hew ftadte Orleans district the most important question about geography is not the question of distance to the reserve bank, but the course and direction of business* How, the direction of business in this district is nearly all from the South, and when you put a bank in Richmond, so far as Baltimore and Maryland are concerned, it is not a question of distance, but of trying to make water run up h ill, and change the course of business, and when you put Baltimore at the head of this Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Ot d istrict, Baltimore Is in tha direction from whldh the bus iness coses, at the north of the district* This la a simple argument, and not original with us, but at Richmond,—when Richmond went up to the Organisation Committee, asking for this diat riot* Richmond contended th%t *Hatura had mapped out tor it a perfect d istrict, bounded on the north by the Potomac Elver.* Mr* at ye, their spokesman, in testifying be fore the oonmlttss, said that district had an incontsetIbis position, being situated at the northern limit of the dis trict* So far from being an argument ag%lnst it , it was their text supporting their case* low .Baltimore is near the northern, limit of — not the district that Richmond aaked for, but the district they ac tually got. I do not mean to overlook the fact that after Richmond had filed their brief, and after they had covered ap parently every question at the hearing that the district migfrt be maned out differently, Hr# Saye, very clearly and ably wrote a letter a month later when he filed the brief, and pointed out the fact that notwithstanding Mature*s action In mapping out the district, you could Just aa well put Balti more in the d istrict, and put. a branch bank in Baltimore! That showed great cleverness in adapting his argument, but It was a pure admission of the superiority of Baltimore over Richmond as a reserve center* My ttee has expired* The President of the Boards lour motion took five min utes* Mr. Markelli How much ttee have I left? The President of the Boards Five minutes* The motion Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives toefc five or six Minutes* Mr* Marfeellt I as, glad to know just how umdh time I ft* VS left* On this question of distance, then, I can say & words Primarily, the course of business is of isuoh more importance than, the distance, and If you want author it y on that* go to Richmond* and that point Richmond had In her brief j but the Organisation C onitt m is also good authority for that* mid *varyon® seems to agree about that* and everyone agreed that the course of business flows northward toward Baltimore £vm th® south* In addition, to that, distance is absolutely unisaportant in this district* fhyf Because of th© faot that the whole district is so compact, that Baltimore is within seventeen houra of any other point in th© <11stric t,—any other city of considerable al*o,~~ so there is only one buaineea ’day dividing on# end of tl a diet riot and another, whether you put th# bank in Baltimore or Richmond* Mow* our friends from Richmond make a curious argument on that* They say that hours make a difference* because clearing house meets in the mom* ing and it makes a differenoe what tine the business ean reach the reserve oenter* As I understand* this bank, so far as it operates as a clearing house* will be automatic* open so long as the day lasts* so distance is not Important anyhow* It would not have been unimportant out in Kansas City* It is very important there* If anywhere* because in Kansas City the reserve city is one thousand milm away, separated by one thousand miles and. by the Hooky Mountains from Emnta# City* and yet the Board thought nothing of that* and properly so* The* put the bank in Kansas City, Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 9 in nine of th© twelve districts this Organisation Com mittee has selected a reserve city at or practically on the very edge of the district, and no one found fault for doing *o* How th® further circumstance about th® geography of Baltimore is that Balt lmore, as a matter of fact, really is nearer th® banking business than Richmond, and that again is the same thing I have discussed In referring to the poll of banks* fhs only essential matter to be considered is the difference between number and volume, fe have in the appen dix to our brief enumerated every national bank city in the district. W e took national banks simply because it made the problems smaller than if we included others, although the national bank comparison Is more favorable to Richmond, be cause Baltimore and Maryland are stronger In trust companies than Richmond, and even on national banks alone we show, al though there are more national banks which are nearer geo graphically, not by air line, but by mailing time, Kiohnond than Baltimore* when you take the total resources, by far the greater number is accessible to Baltimore than Rioftoondj and when you take those resources and divide them by hours and even the average distance in mailing hours from Balti more to all of the banking resources in the d istrict, it is 7*3 hours, and to Richmond is §»1 hoursf so the real truth about this geographical argument, speaking candidly, Is we do not think it should be controlling, but so fax as it is to be considered, It is in favor of Baltimore, because Baltimore is really nearer the density of banking business than Richand , WM ------------- ------------------------------ ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- — ..-^V........ .... Reproduced from the Unclassified/ Declassified Holdings of the National Archives O^A *< zsond. fh# q,-u##ticn of proximity to i&ilad#lphia has m m mm~ aad th# Organisation OoauiltiM auggeatad that waa tha raaaoa for not putting a bank in Baltimore* and that that waa on. th# oontrary a ro&#o&. fosr aatabliahiag it. in Hlohiaoad* IBay* it puts Baltiaor# that i&uoh naaxor to K*ilad#ii$ila,. New York, Chicago, and Boaton, tfhiofe ar# th# bank* that Balti** more will bo moat in touch with, and th# only other r###rv# o iti m that it i&ora&aaa. th# dittany from ar# Atlanta and Ballaa* and m oan r#f#r |«u goatlamon to th# ‘Richmond t#a~timony a# to th# inportano# of Atlanta, fit# whol# w#ight of th# Richmond ©aa# b#for# th# 0xganiaatt#n ®omittaa waa put on thai* intona# d#*ir© not to be tiod to amythin^ aouth #f tham*- and th# on# thing stiaking out throng th© ©aa# i# tltay did not want anything to do- with Atlanta that ca# a borrowing dl#triat. ftxttin^ this bank at Haltlaor# m&kaa that bank that muofc nearer th# other raaorv# aitioa, and U* or#a«#» th# diotano# free th# Atlanta and Ballaa banka, and th# Kiohmond paoplt hav# j&adt oleax, batter than we oouldj, th# faat that th# Ritih&ond bank will not ha?# large r#lation# with thoee alt lea* On th# iispo;rtaii0 ## ro,£&rcft#aa of diatanee, of th# ooura# of trainee#, I oaitt#& to oall attention to Richmond1# atat#~ mont th&t &i#tmno« &o#$ not m m m $ to anything, tot th# di** root ion d ***, and on that X would only ref or you* gegtlmeA, ## to th# toetimony of th# South Oarclina witn#a#/f or Rioh»ond, and th# lnt#na# f©ar'they exhibited of b#iag f&atenad to At lanta* th#y said It would be a calamity to be attached to a tion#d, I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives plaoe eouth of me* low yom gentlemen of course 3m m that Baltimore i* »tt@h further geographically f rom South Caroli na and lorth Carolina than Atlanta ia, tot those people eaid It would be a o&l&mlty to attach thsm to a plaee south of them, that they would fool that they worn hanging on to a dead and* They muted to be connected north of them, booauae th© oourae of bueineee l& north* In conclusion,. gentlemen, this Organisation Commit- too has done to the people and toainase of Maryland and Balti more la to impose on them the exact calamity that the South Carolina people asked to be delivered from; they have instil-' ed that Baltimore and Maryland shoald bo tagged on to a city aoiith of the®*, although the course of business is from the south northward; and they have insisted that the course of business should be turaed backward, or a .futile attempt should be made to turn the course of business baox from the north to the south, and in addition, to doing that, thoy have subordin*ated the seventh and sixteenth cities of the United States to the thirty~niath city, which is one-fifth the »i3e of Baltimore, one-third the also of faahimgton, and leas than one-seventh the sise of the tiro combined.- Reproduced from the Uncfassffied rDeclaasified Holdings of the National Archives 8U1 apsmim arobmsct ot tsm . k. Pa®, 0 ? RICHMOND, VA., IJT FAVOR Of TH8 W8SISHATXOK 07 HIGHStOKP AS IBB'WAI. RJSSjSRVJ? CITY TOR THS IfIJTH JSnSRAfc R9SSRVJS 331STRICT, MR# FA08I I shall confine ryself in opsiting this case largely to a presentation of the purposes which €kmgress had in view in enacting what is known as the federal Reserve Act and to sun endeavor to point out the true tests, or criteria, by which the Federal Reserve Cities should be designated, the designation of the Dist ricts, as amde by the Federal Reserve Organisation Co®** mittee| not being in review here# It would s®em that such & course was orderly and logical in all cases, but it is particularly se in the one at bar for the reason that the brief filed on behalf of the City of Baltimore sho^s in our opinion a total misoonoep* tien both of the purposes of the Act and of what is re quired of a Federal Reserve City, I , in presenting our case, 1 state a matter well 'known to you, or of an element** ary character, I do se from no id*a that you are not acquainted with tha subject, for I have never yet appeared before a “body wi»r« I fait* on account of the great practical experience and learing of its members* greater incapacity to randar tha Board assistance la arriving at a correct conclunion of the questions at Issue$ but stata-* ments of such jaattara ara necessary in developing the point a wa rely upon to sustain tha decision of tha Federal Reserve Organisation Commltteo in designating Richmond as tha Federal Raaarva City of District Ho# 0# ?roa a general knowledge of previous afforta at legislation on the subject, aa wall aa from a oareful ra~ view of tha debates in Congress during tha different stages of tha enactment of the law* wa consider tha definition of the purposes of the Act, as given Isy tha learned author op Magee on Banka and Banking, last edition* as brlcft though comprehensive, as can ha found* the definition there given is as follows I a careful study and review of the provisions of the M i * It must he observed that Congress has enacted a aeasura Intended to regulate the more equal distribution of money for the use and benefit of comerce* throughout all sections of the United States, and to destroy centralised reserves♦" Assuming that this definition correctly sets forth the purposes of the Act, we shall endeavor to point out tha T Reproduced from the Unclassified J Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SKiS-3 true tests or criteria h? which the deslf*natloii of the federal Reserve City of a &1striot should be made* While tha Act requires that the federal Reserve PI strict# shall he "apportioned, with due regard to convenience and the customary course of business** It does not express3y state that the Organisation Committee must he governed by the same considerations In regard to the selection of the federal Reserve Oltles, hut It has “been assumed through* out the hearings had before the Organisation Committee and In the arguments of counsel that It was the intention of Congress that "convenience and the customary course of business” should have the same influence in the decision of the location of federal Reserve Cities as in the case of the apportionment of Federal Reserve Districts* In re* viewing the several briefs filed by various cities making application for designations as federal Reserve cities before the Organisation Committee* we find practical unanimity of opinion in respect to the requirements of the Act| except in the case of Baltimore* tn the petition filed on behalf of the City of Cin cinnati* prepared under the direction of fisdericfc C* Hicks* Professor of Iconomlcs and Commerce of the University of Cincinnati we find this clear of the statute in this respect? and comprehensive view Reproduced from the Unclassified t Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SKS-4 *yirst# biographical convenience* which involves transportation f a c ilit ie s and rapid and easy ceiamtmica* tlon with a ll parts of the d istrict# "Sccond* Industrial and constwsrclal development and needs of each section, which involves consideration of the general movement of cojsmo^itiaa m& of business trans** actions within the d istric te and the transfer of funds and exchanges c f credits arisin g therefrom# •third# Th* established custom and trend ©f buslnesst as developed “by the present system o f hank reserves and checking accounts# In laying out the d is tr ic ts and estab lishing the headquarters for reserve hanks* ev$ry effo rt w ill he aade tc promote business convenience and no.mal movements of trade and ceiaiiaree** *The sme general ideas are b rie fly expressed in th® petition file d on bebalf of the c ity c f Olevcland* Ohio* Uiey are as follows! *(1># Satisfactory communication throughout the wmmtok* d istrict# (2} Proxlmlty to center of t r a ffic and exchangee of tha d istrict# (3) fin an clalf coaiaereial* industrial and civic strength In its e lf# (4) Satisfactory relations with the entire d istrict# t/ndas^eci;feedfes^[ed Molcfings oftfe National Archives 3'n SEB5 And In a petition filed on behalf of Louisville, T y ,, and subscribed to by Meanr*. 0X1 1 © £. James, Swager Sherley, HI chard Knott and |ohn W« Barrt Jr#ft almost the identical language Is found; wfa) Geographical convenience * (b) fhe industrial development of the section* (e) fhe established trend of business. (d) The extent to which, each section is able, inde- ptadently, to finance the needs of its own region," The city of Washington presented a paper at the oral hearing before the Uederal Reserve Organisation Committee which fully sets forth the requirements of a Federal Reserve City* Mr* A. 0* Austin, for fifteen years Chief Statistician, of the ITnited States Bureau of Statistics, quotas it with approval at page B9 of tha original petition of the City of Richmond* It is too long to read hers today, but we take the liberty of referring you to it* It thus appearing that ths bankers and students of finance, put forward by the various comm l t l e s to repre sent their claims for a federal Beserve Bank before the Organisation Committee* agree with singular unanimity upon what is required ot a city desiring such designation, it is aot surprising that the Federal Reserve Organisation Commit* tee should Itself have eome to a similar conclusion. la the nepnxRiceQ Trorntne un i orthelM onal Archives 31 3KB6 dedalon of the federal Beaerve Organisation Committee, determining tha Federal Reserve Districts and the location of the federal Beaerve Banlcs, at paga 361 of the record, that honorable body thnn summed up the question* "Among the many factor® which governed the decision® in determining the respective districts and tho ©election of the cities which hare been chosen, were: *Mrat* fhe ability of the member banks within the district to provide the minimum capital of $4,000*000* re quired for the Federal Beaerve Bank* on the basis of 6 per cent of the capital stock and suprlne of member banka within i the district* "Second, fhe mercantile, industrial, and financial conneetiona existing In each district and the relations between the various portions of the district and the city aeleoted for the location of the federal Beaerve Bank* *$hird* She probable ability of tha Federal Beaerve Bank ia each district, after organisation and after the provisions of tho Federal Reserve aot shall have gone into affeot, to meat the legitimate demands of business, whether normal or abnoxmsl, ia accordance with tha spirit and pro* vialone of the Fedaral Reserve Aot# "Fourth* fhe fair and equitable division of the available capital for the federal leaerve Baiika among the district created* "Fifth* fh e genera1 gaographical aituation of the dia- trict, transportation lines, and the facilities for epecdy comgrnnication between the federal Reserve Bank and all por tions of the dllatrict# "Sixth# The population* area, and prevalent business activities of the district* whether agricultural, manufac turing, mining, or commercial, its record of growth and development in the past and it a proppeot for the future •* On the other handt Baltimore, throughout it® brief, filed with thin honorable body, lays the greatest 8trees upon the also of Baltimore aa compared with that of Hichmond, and m&km no effort to prove, and it i« unable to prove, that it better fulfils any of the requirements of the Act, aa understood by the financial world at large, and the Federal Reserve Organisation Committee, than Bichmond* If, therefore, we oan show that Baltimore has a wrong concep tion of the purposes of the Act, and of what is required of a city deairing to be bamed as the Federal Beserve City of a District, it follows that lie evidence hag no bearing oil the fxteati&na at iseue and that its arguments are misdirect ed* t e illustrate our contentions in these reelects, we refer, firfit, to page $0 of Baltimore* a Brief, where it ie Reproduced from the Unclassified ^Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SK38 said s "Without of the undertaking Federal a lainute review of the Heserve Act, with which this Board is famil iar, it may he said that a cardinal feature - i f not the cardinal feature - of the new system is its ness# present banking fhe system It had been found to create an the money of provisions had comprehensive* been found inadequate# artificial concentration the whole country in Hen York City {and to a lesser extent in fhis OMeago)* it concentration, has thought, made the banking system too dependent upon lation in the of stock laarket and toe the more strictly commercial and country# Congress set out to little specu adapted to meet agricultural correct these been needs of conditions*, the not, however, primarily by forbidding* the practices which have been deemed undesirable or system, but mainly by unduly ojepanding prominent in our hanking the system and providing new (and supposedly more efficient) channels by which the money and banking•resources of the country isight naturally flow towards the commercial transactions, as distinguished from speculation in stocks*” At page ,fWitb, this further definition appears: perhaps, a more accurate sense of proportion, it ml^bt fairly be said that the federal Heserve Banks 1it i L . 1. i Ml. ii .i i imiiHii iL«ia^w Lw i|jjim *uw .ui,Ji -L.ujmuii'rij.:^uin ui „ j it ,*j ' ‘. w i " ■ ' Reproduced from the Unclassified/Declassified Holdings of the National Archives OA '-f:<*2. tL SKR9 with are banka vested (X) not Tested In other in of transactions certain important whioh are banks belonging great or importance, pov-er to the business of banking» eaeoept with hut expressly of banks, and (2) with general conduct all branches tfcut f special powers the public# routine the;/ may not perform functions of ordinary by implication referred same united hacking* to the member aye tern*" The learned authors of Baltimore **3 Brief, when next approaching this subject* at page 3f of the brieft quote with manifest approval the editorial reply of the Journal of Commerce* of April ?Af 1914* to a letter which had been sent that paper by the Richmond Committee* which letter, however, if? not printed in Baltimorefs brief* In the editorial in question theBe novel views of the purposes of the Act appear* rffhe Richmond Committee says that in the middle and southern portion of its district as designated* the three Statef, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina« have | nearly 6t000#000-population and 1,£&S banking institutions, : while the northern part*, in whioh Baltimore is situatedt has leas than 5f000*000 population and only 494 banka* It also shows how much more convenient for railroad and mail aommni* ; cation Richmond is than Baltimore to this large portion of 3KB10 the district*" Further gvtetlngt *fo our mind this km ver? little to do with the case* It is not a question of area and distances* or of popular tion and number of bankst so much as of density of popula tion within certain areas, volume and charact«?r of transactions and number of daily coaimunio&tioust to bo made* A limited area might bo mailed out in this city containing a greater population than any ono of the three rtates named, and another in which more commercial and financial business te transacted in a day than in all three of them, while there is only a fraction as many banka in the whole city as in the states which constitute the southern part of the Bichmond District*" Evidently not being satisfied that the facte and con ditions surrounding Baltimore justified the designation of that city by the federal Reserve Organisation Committee as the location for a Federal Reserve Bank, the learned authors of Baltimore1 a Brief again define the scope and purpose of the Act, giving it this remarkable construction: "the principal purpose* of Congresst however, in devlsine this addition to our existing system, was evidently not so n e h to improve conditions at ordinary times as to T SOI 1 provide a more satisfactory system in times * ± stress* ffcs occurrence of panics and the inadequacy of the present system to deal with panics wore undoubtedly foremost In the mind© of Congress, as thoy have been in tho mind* of all who have interested themselves in banking and financial refora in this country* Bxeept for certain m called seasonal strains (whloh have not been greatly felt elnee tha panle of 1907) , our existing system has been fairly satisfactory in ordinary times* It 1* 1st times of stress that the weaknesses of the present system become manifest# Shese weaknesses It waa the prime purpose of Congress to cure** fhe above being fair samples of the understanding of the authors of Baltimore's brief of the purposes of the Act and of what is rofaired of a Federal Beserve Oity, it is natural that they filled their brief with matter wholly irrelevant and immaterial$ unless, perchance, Baltimore, realising that she did not possess the true requisites of a Federal Beserve City, m required by the Act, resorted to the expedient of extolling her general virtues, her possess** ion of which Is undisputed, in the hope that she mi^ht still he designated# I regret that 1 shall be unable, on account of the ahortneea of time allowed for o m l argument, to call your attention to the overwhelming weight of evidence.ia support of eur claim that Kichmond meete* all of the re$uireraente of tho Act, aa understood by ihofse learned In finance, and that Baltimore fails to do *o# tho oaae I © h a H leave this part of to ay aaaoelate, tho Honorable Eppa Eunton, Jr., who ia peculiarly well qualified for tho undertaking* and I shall devote tho rest of my time to a few points which in ay opinion ahould have groat weight with you la forming your deeialon* First, it mm plainly contemplated in tho Act that Federal Banka should act not only aa clearing houaea for the member* In their own districts, but between district®# fhe clearing between diatrleta, we believe, will develop into enomoui proportions and that the bank most advantageously located for clearing tranaaotiona of any large ©ection of the country will havo a great aervloe to perform. We claim that Richmond rather than Baltimore oooupiea thia petition* 3Phe Federal Beeerve Organisation Committee having, for obvious and juat ream na, selected the cities of Boaton, Hew Tark, and Bdladelphia, in geographical order, aa Beaerve Cltlea, could not have accomplished a proper diviaIon of the banking power of the Eaat and of the territory generally, by naming the nearby city of Baltimore in the 3K313 northeast eomtr of the Mstrict to* $ m the fourth olty a!sag the Atlantic seaboard* Second; fhe overwhelming preference of the banks and of tho people in tho District for Richmond over Baltimore* assuming that they had intelligence enough to know what was best for their business interests* founded on present hanking connection# and the customary eourte of trade* should, and doubtless did* have great weight with the Federal Reserve Organisation Committee in locating the Federal Heserve City o f Di?5trict Ho# & at Richmond rather than at Baltimore* Further* I would respectfully call your attention in mm& detail to the fact that although Baltimorefs hanking resources are greater than tho«e of Richmond, they are not to the same extent available for the requirements of District Bo* 5* and also tin the failure of Baltimore and of Maryland to keep apace during the last decade with the growth in hanks and hanking resources, and in commercial and lndus~ trial development generally* with Richmond and Virginia and with north and f<outh Carolina* with which Richmond la inseparably connected* On page 21 of the Baltimore brieft the division of her hanking power ia given as follows *• fetal Banking Resources* 39 national Banks* • « • • » » * » » * * • msiA 1224* 975,000 State Banks, trust companies, and otook savings companles* • * * * « Mutual savings banks* 80,183,000 108,708,000 fotnl » * * * « • * » * • fE97|864|000 fhe resources of mutual saving* tenlce and truat companie® are §182,000*000* or 60 per cent of the entire banking resources of Baltimore* Srust companies have a field of their own and they cannott as at present consti tuted, enter the eastern* Mutual savings bank?? cannot, in the nature of their business, become members# Again, we would point out that la the itemised state ment of ro^ources on page 19 of the Baltimore brief, the fact that #1&8,000 ,000 , or 45 per cent of the who la, are "investments, bonds, securities, etc»w fhe actual use Baltimore is makirif of its banking re sources, as well as its rate of progress in the world of finance, oan best be knoim and understood by referring to its ora estimate of these matters when not engaged in en deavoring to promote its claims as the financial capital of a Federal K*serve District* Such evi&once as this? can be found in the report of the Commission for the Bevislon of the 'Taxation Astern of the State of Maryland and the City of Baltimore, appointed In pursuance of C a r t e r 779 of the Aots of the General Assembly of Maryland, 1913* fhe rep ort is signed by th e following responsible citizens of the Stat# of Marylands~ Henry >% Baker* J, Karry Mahool, 1* Stanley 0ary, J# H* 0a»briH, Jr*t Williaai M-* Cooper, and Y e m o n Cook* (See page# 28f and £88 of said rep ort) * fh© truth of what the distinguished Committee has said of Baltimore la connect ion with the lack of progress in th e banking world is borne out by statistics both in regard to the City of Baltimore and to the State of Mary land* for the pur^os# of comparing the growth of the City of Baltimore and the ftate of Maryland with the City of Eichmoad and the £tate of Virginia, we refer you, first, to the reports made to the Comptroller of the treasury, oa March 4t 1914, by all of the lational Banks of each of the States? la M a t riot Ho« 0, and then to the combined statement of lational and State banks in said Metrict* AG0RJS&ATS RESOtJBCBS. 1913 Xncroase Maryland* * • • #30,575,000 #66,989,000 186,414,000 86 Baltimore • , « aBf019f000 110,989,000 28,877,000 35 Virginia 38,220 #000 100,£95*000 62,075,000 162 Richmond .• * » 16*730*000 56#576,000 39,846,000 238 Borth Carolina 18,865,000 62,459,000 43,094,000 831 South 13,724,000 42,082*000 £8,358,000 207 1908 « * • Carolina 2»er C< am e COMBIllKD Of BAflOBAI* & SfAfB BAH3CS* 190E 1913 Virginia (Inolud#94,7£S,000 ing Richmond) Increase Per Ctnt §818 ,211*000 fl85*483,000 ifco Berth Carolina 53#3£fc,O0O 117*315*000 8&*994*000 zm Sonth Carolina ZB.138.000 95.185.000 67.047.00C) 208 0156,188*000 f43O*71£*OO0 #874*584*000 178 West Virginia Maryland fInclud ing Baltimore)* # 75*484*000 163,766*000 80,512,000 109 128,613*000 199,8£8*000 71*918*000 81 from sworn special reports submitted to the Coffixatroller of the freasary, it appears that the national Ban&a in Richmond were lending in the thirteen southern states on January IB* 1914* more money than was being loaned in those Stfrtes by the national banks try, exeept lew York* of any other city in the eoun~ The tetal loans and discounts in the thirteen Southern States by Baltimore* Washington and Klehracmd are as follower Baltimore,» * » * * « * « * $6,891,000 Washington* * * • • » • * » 915,000 Kiehaonft* • * * * • « • * « 33*4?&t00O fheae figures show that in those portions of District go* & outside of the States of Virginia and Maryland* the Hiehmond national banks ere lending twice as m m h money as ~42 m ? all of the national banks of Baltimore and Washington com bined* They also show that although Richmond was not a reserve city* the banks and trust companies in the thirteen Southern States had on deposit in the national hanks of Bichmcmd on February 'Id* 1S14, $9,876,000* or slightly more than the baiiks of this section had on deposit in the city of Baltimore, and four tlme« as much as they carried in Washington, although these two cities have long enjoyed the benefits of being reserve cities* In conclusion, the present position m have shown that Hichmond occupies as the financial center of the District; the wonderful progress she has made in the last ten years and the ceftalnty that that rate of progress w l H he maintained and increasedf founded as it is upon the unprecedented development of the great natural resources of the Bistriet; her intimate Jcnowlddge of the people of the District, of their industries and finanoial needs; her central location and unequalled transportation connec tions with every section of the District; and, lastly, the overwhelming expression of the wish and desire of a great majority of the hanks of the Mstrict to continue to do business with her#made it entirely fit and proper that the Federal Reserve Organisation Comittee should have Reproduced from the Unclassified /^Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SE818 named Richmond ms the Federal Reserre Citjr of District lo* 6f and will lead this Honorable Body, we confidently eabrait, to Hunton; state ment follows a like eonetaeion* am Kdraoneton follow* HOlKCS Federal BeSOTTO Board 1/eAs ISsO > M* AfiftftOSB? OF Mlu I I B HOTWOB, OK HICBEOIB TA*, Iff FATOE OF fHl DI5SI#»Af tOB Of HIOHMOID AB fKDHEAL K3SBKCB' OXft FOB fHH FIFTH m&mkTi BISfHIOf. If the Court pleases* the Federal Beserve Just leaves it to the Organisation Cosaaittee to determine the reserve cities of each district, subject to review by this Board# The Act itself fixeis no criteria by which to determine tho reserve oitiaa* An examination of the terms of the Act will* however, throw much light upon the intention of 0on~ gress la this respect, aad it seems to m that tha best aid which I can give to this Board la reaching a conclusion la this matter is to point out thou* eonslderatleas which seem to ladleate Baltimore aa the reserve city for the district, aad tho^e which seem to ladieate tiehmoad, aad whoa those eoasidorations are before the Board, to balance them and see where the balance lies* I will first consider Baltimore* Hr friend, in his opening, has indicated that he relies very largely upon its sisey which m admit and recogalze* fhe record dis closes* and the Board will recall, that at the hearing before the Organisation committee Baltimore was first heard, and that at that meeting she insisted upon her else being the determining factor* fhere were two other considerations that she urged very forcefully and very earnestly upon that occasion, namely, the number of baalcs * Reproducedfrom the Unclassified;! Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 45 3K8B second, in the fifth d istrict; kxa£ other business organisations which favored Baltimore; and third, that Baltimore had a preferential freight rate* Not’?, I will endeavor to show that the only considera tion which favors Baltimore is its size* aad that when the facts are ascertained, the other two factors vanish, she possessing neither as against Richmond# How, my friend has said that the vote of the banks amounts to nothing, because In the Act there is no reference made to a vote of the banks, yet he says that the determining factor should be the sisse and the ropal&tion of Baltimore, as I f there were a statement in the Act that that should be the guide to con trol this Board or the Organisation Committee in reaching its conclusions# Eow easy it would have been to have pre scribed in the Act, had that been the intention of Congress, that the largest city in each reserve district should be the reserve city; or, i f It was not the intention of Congress to make it simply the largest in population, how easy it would have been to have said that i f there is In any disbas trie t a city whichkte twice, or three or four times the population of any other city, that it should be selected as the reserve city# But there is no mention in the Act of that, and it is clear that it was not the Intention of Reproduced from the Unclassified ?Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SKIS3 Congress that that should T>e tJia Bole determining factor. Shore is no question that it is a factor of weight, a factor that will carry consideration, and which, i f other factors combine with i t , will determine the location of the reserve city# But *AhS" says ray friend to the Organiza tion Committee, "you established the reserve cities in the largest six cities in the United States, and when yon got to Baltimore f you skipped i t , the seventh in eise% and criticism is made in the brief and in the oral argument of the Organization Committee and its published statement, along with its decision, which my friend has quoted* My friend says that after enumerating the first six largest cities in the United States, the seventh, should follow in a the next naming of Jflm reserve city, but he fa ils to em«* phasize this factor stated by the Organization Comnittoe in the announcement of it s decision* that geographical situation and a ll other considerations fully justify their selection* I f that had been true of Baltimore, the seventh city in si3e# it also would havo been selected, but it is the absence of those considerations that has led to tha Organisation Committee passing over the city of Baltimore and fixing Hichmond as the reserve city for the fifth d istrict, That Baltimore is not geographically situated is not due to the fact that it is at the northern end of Reproduced from the Unclassified ?Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 4? SKB4 the A1strict* but It is due to the fact that the Act pre scribes that the five appelated members of this Board shall be appointed from different districts* or that not more than om of them shall be from any resorre district* and that they shall be distributed geographically over the United states* low* i f you were to make Baltimore a re serve city* you would put four of the reserve cities of the Atlantic states* Boatem* lew York* Philadelphia and Balti more, la the extreme northern part of the Atlantic seaboard States* and leave none between Baltiaoro and the Gulf* with the exception of Atlanta* More than that* you would make the reserve city of the fifth district a city not intimately m i not distinctively a southern city* and not intimately connected and familiar with the distinctive crops of that district* and not intimately familiar with its banks* Its bankers and its banking situation# low* it is conceded that Baltimore has courierclal* Industrial and financial power somewhat with reference to its else* but this record will show clearly that the larger portion of its financial transactions are with the terri tory to its north# &y learned friend came v^ry near asking that statement In his opening argument* The record will air.© disclose that a lar^e part of its commercial* and I imagine of its financial transactions, are with the west* Reproduced from the Unclassified.^ Decfassified Holdings of the National Archives 48 3KE5 and tM« record will demonstrate that instead of Baltimore ■being the financial * commercial and industrial capital of the fifth district, the credit belongs? to th® city of Bichmond. fhey claimed that the vote of the banks, for instance* in their original hearing before the Organisation Committee, and the campaign of the city of P.lchmond, to which my friend has alluded, - a campaign was also waged by the city of Baltimore and it fe ll down, as results were not produced there by it* Baltimore was heard first by the Organization Committee, and she presented to the Organization Committee the fact that a number of baj&s in the District favored Baltimore, and a number of other business institutions, and you will be astonished, after the argument of my friend, to learn that I believe ton pages of the fifteen page brief filed by the city of Baltimore was devoted to that factor in their case« But they were not aware, then, of what had been the results of the Richmond campaign, con ducted upon as high a &ro\m& as that of the campaign of the city of Baltimore, but when they discovered that the Richmond ease was presented to the Organization Committee, we hear nothing more of the effect to be given to the votes I&ter, of the banks, except in their (vln their oral argument, they say that no importance should be Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives *9 SKB6 • attached to thaii because they are not mentioned in the Federal Boaerve Act* Fow, that was an enonaous factor in favor of Baltimore when they believed that a m jority of th© banl-o w’ore in itfi favor* It is a factor of no conse quence when it is demonstrated that it ha& not a pronounced majority, but that a overwhelming Jonty of the banks in the district is in favor of the city of Kichraond* riore te n that, at Baltimore's hearing before the organisation Committee, before Richmond's cane had been presented, it vms claimed that it lm$l a preferential freight rate over the city of Richmond, rmd that that drew th© eurreiita of comneroe and of tmsHness to the city of Baltimore, and that that was a detominin^ factor in fnvor of the city of Bal timore, they boing unaware tof the fact thevfe when Richmond* o casio wr.a presented, instead of Baltimore h&vbc a preferen tia l freifcnt rate an &£&inrt Richmond, Richmond, froa hor £eo£?rftj>hioal location, had a preferential freight rate o?or >3 *' fche c it ;/ of Baltimore, and that there preference of 11*8 per cent j?er hiimtredweipht u; on a ll goodu or oomo&ilies of the class going through Kichiaond, a difference of thir teen per cent# I ??entod to 8:iy thnt that v;as developed u,;;on the hearing of the City of Hichmond, and since that hearing, eitlvr in the orrsl argument nor or in the briefs, have we heard a nln&le reference made to the II JJJ , IUHIIBI ■I.HIIIII UNI, I |l II Reproduced from the Unclassified/Declassified Holdings of the National Archives factor of a preferential freight rate in favor of tho Gity of Baltimore aa dot training nhather it should be tha reserve city or not# So that I say tha claim that Balti* more was tha choice of the banks has been disproved by tha evidence* tho fact that Baltimore had a preferential freight rate has "been disproved by the evidence, and it leaves no factor in favor of the Gity of Baltimore, except its size, which was been dwelt upon this morning, and which the act Itself shows was n 1 ‘ * ‘ “* ~ “ n~ trolling factor* conditions that existed as to the six largest cities of the United States, wo did have controlled it, but it does not in the case of the Gity of Baltimore* its business being largely done with the territory to its north and with the territory to its west* There can be no further or stronger illustration of that fact^*** the fact if stated say colleague that in January, 1913, the national banks of the City of Baltimore were lending less than #¥*000,000# to the entire thirteen southern states, and at the srune time the City of Richmond was lending to those same southern states nearly $34*000,000*1 nearly five times as muoh as a city that comas and claims to be the financial capital of the fifth district* It seems to ne that we might leave Reproduced from the Unclassified fDeclassified Holdings of the National Archives them this claim of the City of Baltimore that she in the financial center of the fifth district, as it is absolutely rehutted by the fact that at & single time the national banks of the City of Richmond, which i if claims is only one* fifth its sisse, were lending nearly five times as much te the southern states as the City of Baltimore# Therefore, we claim that the only factor in favor of Baltimore! awl we think that due weight should be given to it , is that Baltimore lias a larger population than Richmond, but that it does its business vary largely with the territory to Its north and the territory to its west# How, let us consider for a moment what are tha factors that we claim point to Richmond as tha federal reserve city# • fir s t, the selection of Richmond instead of Baltimore would distribute reserve cities more evenly in the different sections of the country* I have already allu&edl to that* One of the purposes of the aot, as I understand, is to prevent too great concentration of resources and banking capital in any one section, and to concentrate more in other sections so as to give to the whole country a more even distribution thereof* Bow, i f you put a lar^e part of the banking resources in the four cities of 5 2 9 Boston | Mew Tor^i Biiladelphia and Baltimore, you will have violated the spirit of the aot, which 1 wndtrst&nd is af proclamation of f inancial freedom to this eonntry* Mors than that| you will hays violated the territorial and gaoipraphical division, and you will have le^irhut on# single federal reserve city in tha Atlantic states between Balti more and the 0«if, not a oontrolling factor, hy any means, hut one of a nuiah^r pregnant with moaning to tha gantleman who have devoted intelligent study and time to this question, and who* it seems to me, must in;vltahly design nata lie too nd as this reserve city* Tha second is that Kiohmond has closer relations and a more intimate taowled^e of the distinctive orops of tha district than Baltimore* Tha South Atlantis statas have thraa peculiar orops, cotton, tohaoco and peanuts* Tha anntml value of thasa thraa crops are approximately as follows: Cotton, #25$t000,600#j tobacco, #3^,000,000*1 peanuts, #l§>00Ot0OO* Thara can ha no question that a city whioh is in tha area of production of thasa thraa crops must l:now hatter their financial needs« They must ha mors int a lii gently financed from within thaA from without* Richmond is within tha area of produotlos* Baltimore is not* It seems to me that at this time there oould ha no hatter illustration of t&at than tha statement that tha Richmond an<^ bankers are infinitely more familiar with the cotton si it Mation in the south now in the time of this c risis in that industry# I think m may assume that It Is hardly probable that the area of cotton production should come to be limited by legislation* This important and vital matter in that great industry ?aust he brought about by personal influence and by financial pressuret and the bankers of the City of Richmond* from their knowledge and familiarity with the bankers of these cotton states and the State of Tirglnia* are in a better position to reduce the area of cotton production in this country than is the City of Baltimore* which is to the north of it# Again* there are four foreign governments* or their boyars of cotton and tobacco* who have their headquarters in Richmond* and this shocking statement* it seeas to ae* shows the distinctly peculiar relations of Richmond to these peculiar crops* In 1913 40 per cent of the tobacco crop raised in Virginia* Worth Carolina And South Carolina came directly to Richmond for re*handling and manufactur ing* and Richmond paid out in connection with It the enormous sum of $53*000*000* or 86 par cent of the total value of the crops of those three states* A portion of this* however* went to Kentucky* which is not in the fifth district* fhose facts show the Intimate relations of wm Reproduced from the Unclassified; / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives u Richmond with thra# distinctive crops of the is, district| and user belief the fifth though the record dons not show, and 1 presume that statistic® would he difficult to obtain* that in the financing of the peanut crop it is mor# pronounced than 1 ha third is it is other three* as to the preferential freight rates, already alluded to# ahloh I hava Mr# Hawco,mert when testifying for at Baltimore **4 Washington, saids' •Freie^it rates are and sal# trade in oomoditiesi of coiamarcial advantages the prime factors correct ti^a* that it was ential freight that it is to Mr* Hawcoaer announced proposition) of the geographical quicker rate applies to all doubtless due to this certain freight ratei^ JTot only is that delivery commodity one to and this freight rate cities in four days preferential and class rates# preferential Tirginia it turns out preferential position* Richmond than In Baltimore, the had the prefer when But it is true Richmond that but thara Is a in flow believing, however, at the perhaps Baltimore that rates# belongs from its tonnage shapire the normal of freight rates lower than those established** absolutely in purchase and manufacturing centers enjoying the It seen# to tm that true, and In in the 1913t freight It is that In Horth the RepMuced from the Undassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 55 a* Carolina, South Carolina* Oeorftla &nd Florida reached the enormous amount of 2,238,906 tons* and of this from Richmond alone there was 6219,495 tons* those figure# for Baltimore* How, we have not got We knew that thay were there for Richmond| and we had thought they would produo# them because we believed Baltimore they would show th® inferiority of aa the commercial center of the fifth district aa clearly as the loans from the national banks of tha fifth district show that it is inferior aa a financial canter, and I hava seen from this record that there wars independent investigations made by the Treasury Depart* ment, *nd it appeared that those independent investigations disclosed those facts as to Baltimore# Richmond is more convenient than Baltimore to a larger number of banks in the district* These ars 484 national banks in the district9 and 1,1$2 state banka* There ars in Virginia, Iforth Carolina and South Carolina 1,123 banks, leaving 483 in the rest of the district* All of these banks in Borth Carolina And South Carolina are about four and one~half hours nearer to Bichaond than to Baltimore* The same is true of most of the banks in Virginia* Bi^t counsel for Baltimore in their brief say? •Practically the whole district being An within one Reproduced from the Unclassified ^Declassified Holdings of the National Archives business day of either Baltimore or Richmond, the question of distance obviously becomes immaterial# The exact hour of the :iay at which a mail transaction is consummated is unimportant *• I agree with w friend that the exact hour of the day at which a hank transaction is accomplished is unita* portant, with this single proviso, and it is an important one| and that is that it he received in time to he cleared on that day| otherwise it is very material* How, such is the connection of Richmond with Worth Carolina and South Carolina and with a greater portion of Virginia and a part of West Virginia that its mails reach there we know that the hanks, and especially the country hanks send out their mail after they close in the evening, and from that territory the m i l reaches Richmond largely bgr the time the hanks open, so that Immaterial as the time aay he at which the mall nay arrive, provided it is in time « to he cleared, it reaches the to he cleared that day# Richmond hanks in time We know that the clearing houses generally close at about eleven o#clock, If a transaction comes too late to he cleared a day# that day there is fhcA'#aj*/ef A How, if you take the distance from that territory to Baltimore, many of these transactions it would, he Impossible to clear on that day, "but they would ho delayed and would only bo completed in tho transactions of tho next day# So that whil® X a^rao with sty friend as to tha exact tiiae at which mail arrives is uniaqportantt I do main tain that it is of tha utmost importance that it should ha received in time to be cleared on the same day# A^ain, another factor in favor of Richmond is the relative increase in the banking resources of Richmond and Baltimore* That Richmond*s resources have increased much acre rapidly than those of Baltimore has been established by my colleague upon authority of tha Baltimore people themselves, but I do not know whether this Board cau^it the faot that that document was appended to tha name of sgr distinguished friend who so ably represents Baltimore with h t. accept it .« < u . . C l ™ . « d . . » « A— as an absolutely jfalr and impartial — * I would not say th«r«for« like to ^rr^f^amant of the national banks of Baltimore# the national banks in Richmond in December* 1904, capital and surplus of $3,115,000* in Harch, 1914, $9,314,000, an increase of 199$* In September* 1904, the Baltimore banka had capital and surplus of #18*868,000, and in March, 1914, #19,205,000, an increase of only B%. . How, it seems to me that 1b a very Important factor Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 58 3KS15 to "be taken notice'of, that Richmond1*? increase was 199J&, Baltimore's i no re as© while It is more striking was only tate s to th© south, that with the section of the country which has, I am hap^y to say, assumed such a position of progress and of prosperity in our entire country that has made and development Increase The and state banks give cluding the is just Virginia, marked and looked to for investment for progro/e * in sta tistics the them for and it aggregate as resources striking* ?he of th© national record does not for the two cities, hut it does give including Richmond, for Maryland, Baltimore, and for the other States in in the district, from 1908 to 1913: Virginia (including Richmond), 1908, #94,788,000$ 1913, £216,821,000; per cent of increase, 130$* Maryland fincluding #199,525,000, 1913, So Baltimore), an increase of 1908, *123,613,000; 61$* that the financial, industrial and commercial capital of this district, assuming that all that my friend claims for it is true, would m o n vanish unless it got re newed* In 1902 resources Maryland had nearly than Virginia, while in $29,000,000 more bank 1913 Virginia had nearly Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SKB16 |l9„000#000 more resources of bank Horth resources than Maryland* The "banking: Carolina had increased in the same time 252%* of South Carolina, Z W $ 9 and of West Ylrginia 109$, but of Maryland only 61%* seems It only has the Organization that has the is to me that that most an important factor* Committee designated the city intimate financial relation with the fifth district, and .has the largest transactions fifth district, but and progressing at not it with the has selected the city that is growing a steady, nearest to the section that healthy rate, and which is is increasing normally and rapidly* Another factor in favor of Richmond Is that tha cus tomary course of business in the district is with Richmond and not with Baltimore* nothing will of more fclearly indicate the trend business be in the district to Richmond than the banking relations tween Richmond and the other States In the district* In considering these banking relations it must he remembered that Baltimore was one that Richmond as the was of the original reserve cities, and never a reserve city until its Federal reserve city of the fifth designation' district* From the Comptroller1® report for 1912 it appears that there are 580 state and national banks in Virginia, and Reproduced from the Unclassified / ’Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SO 8KI17 that they carry in the Richmond hanks 528 accounts« In Borth Carolina there are 429 banks, and they carry in Rlohmond banka 397 accounts* In South Carolina there are 346 banks, and they carry In the Richmond banks 182 ac counts* In West Virginia there are £97 banks, and they carry In Blehaond banks BE accounts* The raaximua deposits carried In Richmond banks in 1913 by banks from Virginia, Itorth Carolina, South Carolina And West Virginia are $12,653,769* The maximum deposits carried in Richmond banks by individuals, firms and corporations from north Carolina and South Carolina are f4,64£,366» The maximum o£ deposits by banks, individuals and corporations from llorth Carolina in Richmond banks is #7,690,820, and from South Carolina f2 ,343,766* From this It appears that banks, corporations and in dividuals in the d istrict, exclusive of Maryland, carried on deposit in the Richmond banks over 117,000,000. The maximum of loans made by banks in Richmond in 1913 to other banks In Virginia, Barth Carolina, south Carolina and West Virginia was 16,174,175* The maximum of loans made by banks In Hlchmond in 1913 to individuals, firrae and corporations in Borth Carolina was |5,M5,451, In South Carolina 13,129,815* Reproduced from the Unclassified ^Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Hi smiB fhe m xim m of loana to ban s, individuals and corpora tions in Horth Carolina was, therefore, 17,445,931, and in fouth Carolina 553,730* To moot the demands for crops and other purposes, Blchmond during* the year 1913 shipx>ed f‘14t0*v0t000 in cur rency into the southern States# How, we have not those figures as to Baltics©re* I wish we had* 1 hell ere that they would show that the claim that Richmond is the financial cent or of the fifth district would be established by them, and I trust that it is true that the independent investigation made by the freasury Departmentt which it was not in our power to make, will establish the facts as to those things as to the city of Baltimore, and X feel assured that it will confirm the wisdom of the Organisation Coaamittee and lead this Board to affirm its decision in designating Blchmond as the reserve city* It is a difficult matter to show clearly that Baltimore is not the industrial and commercial center, but I accept the statement of one of the witnesses for Baltimore that convenience is the servant of commerce, and that it makes the trade currents which create financial and many other business relations* Assuming that that is a correct prin- Reproduced from the Unclassified ! Declassified Holdings of the National Archives o SKK19 ciple, and X believe it to be, it is irresistibly establish ed that Kichmond, with its preferential freight rate, along with the distinctive character of it s crops, is the conrniercial and industrial capital of the d istrict, and not the city of Baltimore* We com© now to what my friends have labored with, and I am not going to deal with the to ll of banks taken by the city of Richmond, but I am going to deal with it as taken by the Organization Committee* I believe in the poll of the banks in the district made directly by tho Coraprto11er*s office Bichmond received 167 votes to 1S8 for Baltimore, and that was a factor that my friends thought should have an enormous amount of weight when first they appeared be fore the Organization Committee* and which they have de voted ao much time in their brief to minimizing and ridi culing* Those figures do not Bhow the fu ll force of Rich mond^ position, because in the poll 28 votes were cast for Columbia, South Carolina, by banks in South Carolina, and 19 for Charlotte, by banks in North Carolina, while Washington1® IS votes were cast for itse lf* It ia clearly established by the testimony that tho banlcs voting for Charlotte and for Columbia favored Richmond as their second choice, and we may assume for the sake of argument that bank* the second choice# Charlotte and choice by of banka Adding to Richmond Columbia* and adding in f a m r of the oity a ll the number and that in of Richmond 214, that her second would make the me their by second choice to Baltimore It seems to moat conclusive factor of and her the city of Washington, it favor of Baltimore 140* tee as of Washington way© in favor of Baltimore that that is the Organisation Commit this Board has before it in determining this matter primarily, this banking problem of the selection reserve city# The banka know which la of the the city of conven ience, and where is the customary courae of business* fhey are not controlled by even so adroit a campaign as the city of Baltimore which controlled by could fhey not get a majority* sentimental reasons, as evidenced by are not my friend*s statement that a lot of banks in Virginia voted for the city of Baltimore, fhey are hard headed business men determining business requirements iness that they they know that have had, and by the course of bus by their convenience, and it is to Richmond that they must look for more intimate acquaintance, for the knowledge of their a fin ancial needs, and for the knowledge of their peculiar crops, and that is why one of the witnesses before the Organisation Committee said that he would be a little way from home to Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SXBB1 go to Baltimore* Mow, I say that the best evidence of convenience and the euetomary course of business is the showing of these / 214 hanks, as against the 140 for the city of Baltimore; that they know what are their financial needs; that they know that it is to Richmond that they mmt go* My friend has referred so much to the unwillingness (7l!ccJiof tfee-MtrMre* to go into a district of which Atlanta was the reserve city, and I recognise it9 but not because it was not to the north of it, as my friend would argue, but because Atlanta was a borrowing community and Richmond was a lending community, financing the cities to the south of it, and lending #34,000,000 approximately at a time when Balti more was lending less than $7,000,000, and that was the reason why the cities did not desire to go to Atlanta, but wanted to go to a city as tk x. their reserve city where their financial needs could be met and where they had been in the habit of having their financial needs met. How, my friends say that we nevor dare to talk about Richmond, as compared with Baltimore, in a district where Baltimore was a member of the district* Let us see whether my friends are not in error in that respect also* At the hearing in Washington before the Organization ---^"T Reproduced from the Undasslfied/declassified Holdings of the National Archives 65 HOES Committee M*# Norwood, of Greenville, South Carolina, and Mr* Shett , of Columbia, South Carolina, while testifying in favor of Bichmond &s the reserve city, both stated that Maryland should be added to the district* Mr* Bruton, of Wilson, north Carolina, testifying in behalf of Hichmond, said that he would feel that "we would be a litt le way from home to take us to Baltimore"* Before the action of the Organization Committee Mr* George A* Holderaess filed a brief for the Horth Carolina Bankers Association, adding ?£aryland to the d istrict, and makes a strong argument In favor of the selection of Bich# mond as the reserve city of a district which includes Mary land* It is difficult to understandt therefore, how this statement can be made in the brief for the city of Baltimore| I quote; "It cannot be too strongly stated that before the action of the Organisation Committee no one ever thought of comparing Richmond with Baltimore, or questioning the commercial and financial pre-eminence of Baltimore in what has now been made the fifth d istrict*” Yet there In the testimony of these gentlemen showing that while the district, as mapped out by Bichmond, did not include Maryland, that the fact that it might include Hary- Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SKS23 land was contemplated, and mond this that the answer was at111 Rich in preference to Baltimore* Row, X want to say this* matter as a matter de novo, It seems to me that talcing that the weight of the testimony and the record establishes the fact that instead of Baltimore being the financial, indUBtrlal and commercial capital of the fifth district, and being the moet conven ient to the where the customary course of convenience of the would he best subserved* business. customary this is course of Richmond business I say, as an original'proposition, that is tine, but this does not come proposition, as It Board has up as an original held when it gave to the city of Baltimore the opening and the conclusion of this presentation,. It comes up not as an appeal, but as a re view of the action of the Organisation Committee by the Reserve Board, and may I pause for an instant to say that a review is a common method used by the courts, that a petition for a re-hearing is not an unusual thing, and ac cording to my recollection, though I stances, this has been the case cannot give the in in this country, that where appellate courts are made up of the judges of the lower court, that the judge deciding tha case in the lower court has been a member of the tribunal to re-hear and review Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives &KEB4 themselves. How* I say that this Organisation Committee visited eighteen different cities in their efforts to reach wise conclusions* and hearings wore given to over two hundred cities thet came in touch with the financial men and the business men of all sections of the common country. wore authorised to employ experts and counsel sec how delicate of this counsel ‘ They - I do not could aid so mu eh in that difficult and discussion* for which* even in tho presentation view of It, I feel that 1 am so poorly qualified - but they had the authority to employ experts and to make independent investigations* and i say that the decision of that Organisation Committee is courts* primarily right in all both State and Federal* and should carry as much weight as is given to the wisdom of a jury or to the report of a master or special master* and the rule* I believe* in almost every jurisdiction is that such a report shall not be over thrown unless it is plainly wrong* and the burden upon my friends is not such as It was before the Organisation Com mittee* !£he burden is upon them to establish to the satis faction of thie Board that the action of this Organization Committee is clearly wrong; otherwise* as the Board has done in giving to them the opening and conclusion* following Reproduced from the Unclassified i Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 68 ♦ 3KB25 the legal its decision, with have with principles in each it oatters, the greater unless plainly familiarity that they hearings that they gave in these eighteen hundred cities, anti from the personal hearings of the two cities, as the trial court, seeing the testimony is courts, witnesses and hearing able thereby to give more intelligent judgment and the proper weight that say the must from their personal touch with the situation from the personal their wrong:, is due to them, - so, unless plainly wrong, it must be affirmed* I want to say that I do not believe that our friends realise the progress that the city of Richmond has the last two decades, more especially In the last, made in and I can understand their disappointment that in a controversy of this sort, friendly upon our part at least, that the prize, which could be given to but one, case to ittchmond Instead of to Baltimore* to our own .people It may have been astonishing even to know what the development had been, because thirty years prior to those two decades a large part of the city was in ashes* Its wealth had been swept, away, the flower of its manhood had 'been given in response to the call of her State* T he struggle during those thirty years was a slow and laborious one, and in this controversy that we remember even in that hour when we were Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives d9 3XS86 passing through the valley slater city of aid that she Baltimore did not of death for sympathy, that if the decision of this city by And we never turned to our encouragement and and respond promptly we do not forget that today. affirmed we efficiently, and believe Organisation and we hope Committee Is this Board, that the time will come tshen the of Baltimore at least *111 not he ashamed of the regional hank of Richmond as a worker In the development of this great financial machinery which is to bring finan cial freedom and equally N to all sections and all parts of this country, and give flexible and stable currency, under your wiffe administration of this Act the financial history of this which is country* an epoch in Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 7 0 3KS27 OWBJMCr IB ARGTOBHT OF ME* FAVOR OF THE BBSIGlfAflOB VERHON C O O K , OF Gentlemen VB DISTRICT. the of the Board, in short for oral discussion it ia impossible for you an a ll tho many ways In which advantage City* We Richmond over can How, as argument I see it, the time ue* to for the location of touch a reserve on some of the underlying theme or text of the for Baltimore 1b this, reservoirs lay before argument* that as wo look about the country and find that the hills and valleys natural that remains Baltimore, as we see it, has therefore only briefly more salient points of the HD*, BALTIMORE AS TS2 EBDERAL ClfT K)H TEH FIF^H .FBDISRAL BIS.EKV1 OF BAIfflHOHB, for water, so the -make certain course of business and the eaAgenoiee of trade form certain natural reservoirs f o r surplus banking capital, and we claim that Baltimore is, and always has been, one of those natural banking capital, and that Richmond reservoirs for never wa®, and in the nature of things, for a great many years to come never can be such a natural reservoir for money* We claim also that Baltimore is not only a natural reservoir, but a natural reservoir for this particular fifth district, including these Statee* the Virginias, the Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 1 330128 Carolinas, Maryland and the District of do I say this? Columbia* low, why My opponents on the other side have mad® some very startling; statements* it seems to me, but none m ss Mr. hk)re startling to me here Hunton that Baltimore the south, but has its than the statement made by does not have business it s business with with the north. Those of us who live in Baltimore have been hearing for many years about Baltimore*s southern trade, ono of the things we always talk about# one of the things that wo work for, one pf the things we pride ourselves upon possessing. the facts? Does Baltimore have its business in the south or in the north? 11, and m What are We have the figures in our brief on page show that of all the products or goods raanu- or factored maak distributed by Baltimore, there is 137,000,000 worth distributed in the State of Maryland itself, and that in the rest of this district there la '*>1 ,0 0 0 * 0 0 0 worth of products distributed* Bow, when we add those figures together, the result is that TOp of our manufactured products, and 70$ of the goods which our great jobbing houses send out go right into this very fifth district* Those are the figures on authorities that cannot be ques tioned, cannot be doubted, and. they are net forth in our brief. trict* We say, therefore, our business is with this dis from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives # tJ Take the great jobbing houses of Baltimore, turning out as they do and selllne millions of dollars worth of goods in the south* The Baltimore Bargain House 75t000 accounts in the south* Brothers has 10,000 result of natural this? flow accounts The alone has well known firm of Hearst in the south* What is* the The result of this is that it makes, a of money from the south, from this district, into Baltimore# These goods are sold by the Baltimore jobbers to Baltimore manufacturers and merchants in the south# They are sold on credit, and when the time of the year comes around when the southern people have harvested their crops and have gotten in their money, they pay their debts to Baltimore; then a flow of money comes in from these thousands over of accounts*;these thousands of merchants all the south, who owe Baltimore, begin to pay, and there is a perfect streme of money flowing from this Baltimore* district to After the crops -are harvested, after the great demand for money In the south lets up, it flows back to this city as the natural place for it to be as a reserve center* Then, in addition to that, not only is there the flow of money from the southern merchants to tha Baltimore wholesalers, but another great current that has set in Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives *7' O &O SKE30 toward Baltimore evidencing the coupons more is the payment of th© is interest that dividends and investors* ingly of a the savings hanks because word or two, in Baltimore could fifth district* filed in the not How, of the capital of the be any good to what brief from Mr. Baltimore savings banks which have largely in therefore bonds, is no which ray 60#000*000 bonds S3t0:X) ,000 f States low, to the good rest of this In the let tor E* Edmunds, the great our their opponents throe principal money invested would south, Mr* 38JS, represent coupons have Bdmnnd you think out says that investments in ten come due, there is another current, as I say, of money into Baltimore, trust further than that, there companies in Baltimore alone fiscal agents for E00f0'X>f000 fifth district alone* southern savings hank of the Potomac and east of the Mississippi* when these are three them held by these three savings banks alone, or more than south a are the facts*" Hichard slight dismiss Baltimore, and statistician of the south, he says that of the due to the Balti Bow, ray friends on the other side speak very with of of that act as southern securities in the low, when the coupons on those securities are paid, that all necessarily has to be cleared through Baltimore* Now, iisy opponents say that Baltimore does not under- Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives (■V 4 i 3KB&1 the stand industries or the crops of this fifth district, and th e y call attention to the fact that their three great crops are cotton* tobacco and peanuts, and they think we do not understand much about Mont of them. that tobacco, as a matter of fact* is shipped through Baltimore* We think we hare a good deal to do at times with the financing of the cotton crop* considering the Hot very long ago* when this Board was matter asked to raise only of the cotton pool, Richmond was $1*000,000, and Baltimore was asked to raise 12*600,000 toward that pool* of my opponent's argument tobacco conditions, to those are the in Ms But the significance mention of cotton and my mind is this* It is true that three products of the Virginias and the Oar- olinas* and it lit because they roly so largely on these three products that they never can become a great reserve center for surplus ffcmds, because* as in a natural manufac- taring plant it la necessary to keep your plant going as many aays ness time# in the year as possible* so, In the banking- it is important to A state that keep busi your capital working all the has three crops only, tobacco* cotton and peanuts* can work a hanking capital only through•a part of the yeax^ has only a seasonal demand* but the places that become great banking centers and centers of Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives K\ ' i 3KBSS reserve toads art the cities that cities, but cities that capital, only large a diversified demand for to In Baltimore have use for capital not only In the tobacco, season use days for it 365 far you hare are not and out the peanut season, 'but of the year* 1 do not gentlemen are familiar with Baltimore real position, but wo say we have know how and it s the in our brief that it is leading city in the country in the manufacture of m e n ’s clothing, in copper, in tin and sheet iron products, in fertilizers, in tanning cotton ducfc, and preserving Baltimore not ufacturers, business* only handles but it is a great seaport* city of is in straw hate, and in the In addition to the business of this, it® own man a great transfer point; I mean it With the exception Baltimore has more exports of lew York, the than any port on the Atlantic Coast* We are ahead of Boston, and we are very largely ahead of Philadelphia in the import business. How, then* another thing w x n t not be lost eight of* One fifth of all the capital of these reserve banks ie contributed by the Baltimore banks; approximately one fifth of all the deposits in this Richmond bank, the re* quired deposits come from Baltimore* mean? That How, what does that means in effec t that one fifth of a ll the Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3KB33 business that It this bank does, and one is go!ng to do nmst fifth come in and out via You cannot get away from that* business of all the Baltimore* When tha season of the year comes when the South ie paying its debt to Baltimore* and when surplus funds begin to accumulate in Baltimore, we will send tip the proper proportion of them to Richmond, and when the season comes strain, and everybody around again for the greatest warta reverve to get' these funds at Blohaw&d, one fifth of them must come out via Baltimore* because known, the re if the facte will havo credited more than one fifth of the paper eligible for discount How, a merchant in who had fifth of a that Baltimore, sources, but it ie a fact could be contributes Baltimore not only merchandise to foolish man indeed if north in this district* Carolina or South ship to Richmond would be he Carolina a very sent it up to Baltimore, with instructions to turn it around and send it back to Bich- mond, yet, gentlemen, money in thie district is that if exactly what we do with the yon permit the reserve city to stay in Richmond, because at every season of the year when the .flow of money comes that way, we would have in to Baltimore and back to Richmond, making it flowing a round trip, whereas if you allowed it to come to Baltimore, allowed these things to bo cleared in Baltimore, allowed these Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives £ £ 3&I34 resources to 1)® piled up in Baltimore*. the s ituation would bo Tory m noh simplified* Those facts are not new* is anything discovered already been recognised ment of the the when act* If we go 'by that has the 1364* back to Govern which national banking aot was passed* reserve cities were created, regional recognized and been Unitod States* was X believe It is something by us* that that am not claiming 1 Baltimore was 1 think 19 of one of those them* by the cities; Richmond was not* My opponents seem to think that gave Baltimore a somewhat artificial advantage over Hlchmond* but that Is not the case, because a later act provided city with* 1 think* very little population or banking its bankers saw fit* capital, could* if that any reserve city and oould bo made such* be made Here is the most ask to startling thing in this proposition, that until law was passed Hlchmond was a never considered apparently that proper place to be a reserve city* in and asked for such a thing* city, Washington in Charleston, South this Baltimore They was a Hlchmond never came was a reserve District was a reserve Carolina* new banking system, the creating this new bankers this a reserve city* city, 'They were the natural reserve cities, and Bichmond had not even T Reproduced from tie Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 73 SKB36 asked for it * r-ov; low* my opponent® cite a great number of argument© ant reasons which they contend make In favor of Bichmond* Let us look briefly at one or two of the®* It if* said in the first place that Bichmond lends more money in the south# as it ie put in the report of the Organization Committee, and also in the brief* £hey claim that Bichmond lends $93,000,000. la the south, and Baltimore only .$6,000,000* fhose figures might look very important, but what are t&ose figures? 1m t us analyse them a moment* what do they mean by the south' Why, when you come to read through the report t you find that what they mean by the south, the thirteen southern States, includes Virginia but does not include Maryland* So that when you say Bichmond lends #33,0>0,000 in the south, it simply means that Bichmond is lending most of that right in Ztlehmon&s it aimply means that Bichmond is lending more in Bichmond than Baltimore 1® lending in Richmond, But i f you want to make a fair eepa^arison, a real comparison, and tabulate figures and see in this district what banks are lending the most money in the district, or in the south, including Maryland, what banks are lending the most money, there is not the slightest doubt la the world that these figures will be entirely reversed* Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Q How, farther -.than that* another point that Is made by our opponents is the point that they are nearer the geographical center of the district. JUst a-word on that. What has the geographical center of a district to do with a Question like this? If we were going to establish the point for a water rower plant, the geographical center might hare certain advantages, but we are establishing a center here for the banking business. fore, where the banking business la* You must go, there If you anarxg were establishing a bank in Hew York City, and the directors of the new bank in Hew York City should propose to put it out in Central Park because it is nearer the geographical center of the city than fall Street, would not they simply make themselves a laughing: stock in the eyes of everybody? Has the committee paid any attention to the geographical centers in any of these d is tr ic ts , with one or two possi ble exceptions? They have n 1 * If you take the #ew York District, lew York City is in the southeastern end of that d istric t* If you wanted the geographical cantar, you would have to go up State somewhere about Utica* If you , take the northern 3)1 at riot and want to find the geographical^of that, I believe it is somewhere in the white Mountains* If you went oujr to the San Francisco D istrict, and tried to find the geographical center of that, perhaps from the Unclassified 1 Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 80 SKB37 you might hit Reno Instead of San Francisco* So, you could go all through those districts ana Bhow that the geograph ical center has nothing to do with it* TTe are not her© like a lot of school boys trying to solve a problem in geometry* fhe lines of banking and the course of trade pay no attention to attention to centers constructed* of possible the districts that may ‘ he that the great cities and the great hanking centers are of one of two west* they pay no On the contrary, we find that when we look country* over our geographical centers* clansee in the middle fhey are the great railroad centers, particularly great railroad transfer points* Host noticeable, of course, are Chicago and St* Louis, and ^hea we airay get fro® the middle west and come nearer the Pacific Coast, we find that these great centers are invariably seaports of the country* the great In Chicago and at* Louis the railroads link together the eastern and the western lines, and on the coast the other termini of these railroad lines link themselves with the ocean liners, and these seaports, therefore, are kept constantly buey because they have not only their ow n business, but they have the handling and re-handling of the business of the other sections of the Country, something that is goi^g on all the year round* How, our opponents say particularly that this Com- Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 3038 mitt© 6 , whose report is now up for review, lays a very great stress upon what they ©all th# per capita argument. That argument ie this* 7 hey say: ’’True, Baltimore is a larger city; true, Baltimore has more hanging c a p ita l", and it ie not *?hown by them how great the disparity is - - hut they say yiu must look not only at that* hut you must look at the per capita* and then it is figured out that the per capita hanking capital -in Richmond greater than it is in Baltimore* ie considerably At first blush that might eeera to hare some force; it might seem to indicate that perchance the people of Hichmond had some particular aptitude for the banking business that leads them to put their money into i t -in greater proportion than ether people do. What do you mean by banking per capita? That means, of course, the banking resources* divided by the number of people* that* There are two factors there ’which will vary A large banking capital, or a large bamrlng popula tion tends to decrease th® per capita, hut a small popu lation equally tends to increase the per capita. We show in the brief how this argument for Richmond is reduced to an absurdity when we compare other cities with it and show yon that the per capita In Richmond is larger than the per capita in Philadelphia, Chicago and Hew York* But it becomes even more striking to my mind when we Reproduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives S&S39 compare It to p-ome of the small cities* How, the Organisa tion Committee laid almost controlling stress on the fact that Richmond had a capital and surplus and banking capital of #73 per capita, higher than Hew York* Philadelphia and Cleveland. Bow, le t na look at a few small towns# 1 do not know whether you are fam iliar with this place, hut we have a little town called JSllicott City a few miles out B id e of Baltimore, not noted as a hanking center, but very re markable for its banking capital# £he fppulation will show that while Biehmond has $73 per capita, Illicott City, with something like a thousand population, has a per capi ta of |130 , almost twice as much as Richmond* If we take the mining t o m of Oakland in western Maryland, we find that it has a per capita of $187; we find that Hockville, f not very far from here,^as a per capita of |200; Centervilie, on the western, shore of Maryland, has a per capita of f2S5, as against Biehmond* a |73* So that when we see these figu res, the result evidently in- that your large per capita argument simply proves that you are a small city, and it is evidently all that it does prove. low, then, the next point made is on the growth of banking capital, and there m j opponents take great delight Reproduced fiom the Unclassified # Declassified Holdings of the National Archives >n> O SKE40 first of all in citing that was appointed of the State of a report of a Maryland to study and revise all the commission taxing laws Maryland, ana they apparently see® to think that they have mad® a great point by quoting this, because I mission, which of to he one of the members of that com and they read a long eaetract In which we showed., was Maryland, the happened undoubtedly the which fact, that the taxing laws imposed a Tory high rate, of of taxation on national banks, had tended to retard the development national banking capital is this* My opponents Maryland* But the point on the other side, not Maryland* and not knowing there, appear to be in exactly peacefully living what we are doing: in out Ignorant of the fact that partly as a result of that report , in which I had some little hand, the last jg^l@latur* of the state of Maryland JUuS taxation of our national entirely new system, banks, and they have' established an an entirely new method of taxing the ban % very similar repealed this burdensome to the lew York system, with banking capital in of tha one per cent tax* Bo that I aryland relieved of this heavy burden, we have the right to look forward with a reasonable expectation to the rapid development of Maryland banking capital In the future* than that, what does But aside from that, and further • this growth of Richmond In its Reproduced from the Unclassified J Declassified Holdings of the National Archives Si SKE41 pant banking capital in the that Richmond growing; is tm Why it years show? that is all* It does not show it has gotten anywhere near Baltimore as jet* deal with the future* present, shows not with the past or We have with What is the proper reserve city today? to the If Rich mond ever does grow to proportions where it ia near to or Baltimore the lifetime superior to of Baltimoret i f that comes within any man in this room, why this Board, or some other hoard, can then change it* and take the reserve city hack from Baltimore to Blchaond simply veloping city the But the fact that has grown faster in the past ten years than .Baltimore and is Biehmond* means this, that a growing city, a de - Blohmond is that* as ray brother has said# notv^ftilly reviving fro® the disastrous effects of Civil War - what you might call a young; arid developing city naturally grows faster than a city that has already fully developed* That is simply for the a young child growe faster prove any is just superiority beginning than a man* same that reason That does not of the child over the man* Hiohmond to revive from the calamity that it suffered many years ago, and we are reviving so rapidly* a ll glad to see it is We know Hiohmond has made progress, and we think that we in Baltimore 2mve had some hand in it* How many Richmond securities have been sold in Bal- Repioduced from the Unclassified I Declassified Holdings of the National Archives SKE42 tinm m ? Why it was only a salesman office that Virginia securities, time* yesterday as I was 0 am© to in. wanting leaving my sell m some and that la what we have all the As Mr* Edmunds tells you, and it was a minimum estimate, the amount of Baltimore capital invested in the southern States below the Potomac Is 1200,000,000. Another point much discussed is the poll of Wei;, there are two polls of the banks* raond poll* the banka* One is the Hioh- I have never been able to tinderstand that* .1 have looked at it and tried to figure it out from their brief, and I got -this far, that according to the Richmond poll Baltimore got nine votes in the whole district* in we have sixteen banks satisfied from that * 1 Baltimore* How, 1 was immediately did not g:o into it any farther* the poll taken by the committee shows 167 banks voting for Richmond, and 128 noting for Baltimore* two comments I want to make on that* at the time that the poll did not the know , districts you will choice was fhere are In the first place, taken, the aouthern banks nobody know, Just what the boundaries of would be, and if you read the proceedings,- evidently find that the southern banks had a between Atlanta on the one hand and Richmond on the other, and the- majority of them, the great majority them, said that they wwntod to be connected -up with of Rich- Reproduced from the Unclassified /Declassified Holdings of the National Archives o SKE43 6 raond, because th# ©ours® of business in this district was from the south to the north, not ffcom the north to th© south* As ono Borth Carolina banker salds * I f you con nect us with Atlanta* you connect us with a dead end#” According to our opponents, that is a ll right* to connect Baltimore with a dead end* In Jact, the whole situation here, from thoir point of view* as to this d istrictt seems to he that they started out with a litt le district they mapped out for themselves south of the Fotomac* fhey wanted to he at the north end, because they thought the city at the north end would have the advantage* and they mapped out the Virginias and the Carolinas, and presumably they took in Rome more southern cities with it* Then when it began to be apparent that Atlanta was making strong claim©f and that Georgia would naturally go with Atlanta, the then A Virginia and Carolina district had to look around for something else to make it £ac a full grown district* fhey figure it out in on© of their speeches or briefs somewhere here* which contains the expression that Biiiaa &el phi a t being district made up of Pennsylvania* MaryN land wae le ft as a so;rt of floater* and they did not know Just where to put that, m my friends from Blchmond then come forward in a sort of supplementary brief or letter and show that Maryland* being le ft in this p itifu l con- Reproduced from tile Unclassified ) Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 67 3K344 dltlon of a floater, that they will kindly open the doors and let us In to their district# fhat is their whole attitude# tf?hey will let us in* £hey look to us for the** resources, one dollar otit of every five they get from \im.§ yet we cannot have this bftfck because we are too near Phil adelphia, and I understand Mr* Bunton to say, what ie a surprise to me* that Baltimore was an extreme northern city* I have lived there a ll ay life * and I oan say that— Mr. EOTfOI: I did not say that; at least I did not intend to say anything of the sort# Mr* COOX: I f you aid not say i t , that is the end of it* but I understood you to say that i f the fotir hanks were given to Boston, Philadelphia, Hew York and Baltimore, you would h&vo four in the extreme northern part of the country* We have been taught to believe that Baltimore is sort of on the boundary line, eo to speak, and in con* sequence mainly and largely has been a southern city! and we feel it ie the gate to both the Routhern and northern States# we feel It is the gateway between the north and the south, ai3d as that gateway it is entitled to recognition by reason of the securities it holds, by reason of the business that it does* How, look at this Juot another way* Suppose you gentlemen were the real owners of this bank for the fifth Reproduced from the Unclassified /iDeclassified Holdings of the National Archives $ 8 3KE45 d istrict, and suppes# you wanted to put it in the place where it would ho a success and m ke money for yourselves as stockholders or for other stockholders, oan any man within the sound of my voice hare a shadow of a doubt that you would place thiB bank in Baltimore where you could get hold of seme business, rather than in Bichmond where you would not have anything like the chance?. £ook at the things which Baltimore business men look at# £ook at our foreign trade# Socle at the grain we are exporting right now to the warring nation® in JSurope, and the hank acceptances, the foreign hankers1 acceptances that are Bold in lew York* Bichmond in her hrief says they can s t i l l be sold in Hew York, and Baltimore 1® not going to suffer. That is not what we arc here for* We are not mktn$ an argument for the benefit of Baltimore* It is true that our pride 1st somewhat hurt that we are passed over, the seventh city, as we claim the sixth city, in the Union passed over for the thirty**ninth city* and 1 appeal to you, not for the good of Baltimore, but for the good of this fifth reserve d istrict, to put this bank where it belongs, and put it where it can get business* Bo not sit down and say, as my friends do5 l»et lew York gobble up that foreign acceptance business as it always has*” We say: nIo# send this bank over to Baltimore where Repi mtheUndass 3046 I HoWings of the National Archives It can make a fight for It, and where it east get it* w And I say to you that we are not her© asking for this bank for Baltimore* s benefit# Perhaps it may benefit the banks of Baltimore in s»ome respects, in drawing Borne local business, but we want this bank to be a one* cess, and we believe it ie goine to be a success* I believe you can m k e a Federal regional bank work anywhere* even if you pat it in the back woods* but we want to make it work well and against the least resistance* Water ©an run down hill but you can force it up hill if pumps, you construct an artificial system of^reservoirs and pipes* I say you can make a regional barik work anywhere, but if you want to make it work to the best advantage and with the least friction, you nuot m k e It work according to the laws of nature* according to tho laws of business and the course of trade* you must put it* and I appeal to you gen* tleswtt* to put It not in an artifioial reservoir where you have got to be pumping all the time against resistance to get thin money to Bichmond, but put It in the natural reservoir whera it belongs, and which we insist is Balti more* $he OHAIHKABi We want to express our appreciation of the great ability shown by both aide* in presenting \ Reproduced from the Unclassified / Declassified Holdings of the National Archives 32847 thia case. v;e will take it under advisement and later advice you of the decision. (Whereupon, the hearing wai; adjoitrned) •