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https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Collection: Paul A. Volcker Papers Call Number: MC279 Box 29 Preferred Citation: Memos for Files, 1981, 1987; Paul A. Volcker Papers, Box 29; Public Policy Papers, Department of Rare Books and Special Collections, Princeton University Library Find it online: http://findingaids.princeton.edu/collections/MC279/c218 and https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/archival/5297 The digitization ofthis collection was made possible by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. From the collections of the Seeley G. Mudd Manuscript Library, Princeton, NJ These documents can only be used for educational and research purposes ("fair use") as per United States copyright law. By accessing this file, all users agree that their use falls within fair use as defined by the copyright law of the United States. 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Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis https://fraser.stlouisfed.org BOARDOFGOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM Office Correspondence To Files From Dick Syron Date •: Subject: visit of ChariPs Pistor and Gene Fiedorek to Chairman Volcker on July 30, 1981 Charles Pistor, Chairman, and Gene Fiedorek, Executive Vice President, Republic National Bank of Dallas, came to see Chairman Volcker at about 12 Noon on July 30, 1981; I sat in on their meeting. Mr. Pistor indicated that Republic had been interested for some time in obtaining a larger share of the bank business of the Hunt Brothers of Dallas and their related entities. In that regard Republic was interested in taking the lead in refinancing the current loan agreement between Placid Oil Corporation and a consortium of banks -led by Morgan Guaranty Trust and The First National Bank of Dallas -which was arranged in April 1980 for the purpose of restructuring the Hunt Brothers' silver indebtedness. Mr. Pistor said that Republic would be interested in putting together a loan syndicate, with extensive participation of overseas banks, to refinance the Placid loan by making a new $1 billion loan to Placid secured by oil production from Placid's Black Lake oil field. Mr. Pistor and Mr. Fiedorek were generally aware that at the time the Placid loan was made the Chairman had interposed no objection under the Voluntary Credit Restraint Program then in effect, on the understanding that the purpose of the loan was only to restructure the Hunt indebtedness and provide for an orderly disposition of the Hunt silver and that the loan agreement included protections against renewed speculative activity on the part of the Hunts. (Chairman Volcker recently reminded by letter the lead banks in the loan group of the importance he placed on the stipulations of the loan agreement containing these protections.) Mr. Pistor said that he was aware of the Chairman's concerns that bank credit not be used for speculative activity by the Hunts and that was why he had come in. Mr. Pistor indicated that under the provisions of the existing loan agreement the Hunts would be forced to sell silver at a substantial loss and that the brothers did not believe that it was the intent of the loan agreement to force them to do that. Mr. Pistor also said that the Hunts believed the silver market was currently very depressed and that the possibility of their having to sell a substantial volume was a constant threat over the market. Chairman Volcker responded that he could understand the reason for Republic's interest but that it would be very difficult to accomplish what they were trying to do without weakening the protections he felt were essential in the current Placid loan agreement. The Chairman said that it was not his direct concern whether the Hunts made or lost money on the silver they sold to make payments associated with the https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis I - current loan agreement and that the Hunts had appeared reluctant to sell silver for some time now, including periods during which its price was considerably above the current level. He noted that a specific purpose of the loan agreement was to provide for the orderly liquidation of the Hunt silver and to this point little silver had been sold, regardless of the market price, but that the Hunts now seemed to feel under more pressure to sell. The Chairman said if the objective of a refinancing led by Republic was to allow the Hunts to avoid the purposes and protections of the existing loan agreement in order to continue holding silver, he would strongly object. Mr. Pistor and Mr. Fiedorek said they understood how the Chairman felt. The possibility was raised of the Hunts somehow transferring control of the silver to some third party who would sell it over some fixed time period. Mr. Pistor asked if Republic could "go back to its drawing board" to see if it was possible to develop a proposal that would be helpful to the Hunts while at the same time addressing Chairman Volcker's concerns. The Chairman replied that he understood Republic's position and that they could, of course, try to develop such a proposal but that he thought it would be very difficult if not impossible to do so. Mr. Pistor said he would get back to the Chairman if Republic was able to develop what he thought would be a mutually acceptable approach to a refinancing of the loan agreement. https://fraser.stlouisfed.org Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 1