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Form, F. R. 5111 a) Mr. Morrill T0 Gov. Eccles FROM REMARKS: Would you have a chance to look over this, mark it and prepare a friendly reply to Reno Odlin? GOVERNOR ECCLES' OFFICE THE PUGET SOUND NATIONAL BANK ESTABLISHED IS9O TACOMA 1, W A S H I N G T O N RENO ODLIN PRESIDENT September 1, 1949 Dear Marriner: The other night I had to fill an engagement at the Pacific Coast Banking School at the University of Washington. My talk had to do with the fiscal and monetary questions of the day and I'm sending a copy forward to you for your information, and would welcome any criticisms you may have. With best regards, Sincerely yours, RO:H Enc. Hon. Marriner S. Eccles Member, Board of Governors Federal Reserve System Washington, D. C. AH ADDRESS TO THE PACIFIC COAST BAMIHG SCHOOL DELIVERED BY RE80 OBLBJ, PRESIDES?, TEE FGGE? SOOT) HATIOHM, OF TACQMA, AT GOGGESHEIM HALL, UIOTSRSITI OF WASBIHGTOB, MOSIMI, AUGUST 22, 194-9. About two soaths ago, to ba e m e t on June 24-, W associate on ths Federal Advisory Council, Dr. W. Randolph Burg©as of Hew York, delivered a lector® to the student body of the Graduate Sahool of Baaking of Hew Brunswick. The lecture was titled "Ths Future of The Federal Reserve System0. It is available in pamphlet fora from the American Bankers Association. 1 suggest that you i&o are interested in a very d e a r and learned study of the Federal Reserve System aaad for a copy of the pamphlet. Dr. Burgeas, w&ode intimate knowledge of the Federal Reserve System and whose rank as an authority is irell knouni to you, diseases in his lecture the critical questions of the relation of the System to the Treasury., the balance of power within the System, and the tread toi?&rd control of banking by the Systeau As his conclusion he warns of the drift toward concentration of powe? in Washington through unjustifiable additions of controls and power of regulation In the Federal Reserveo He believes that the* traditional powers of the Federal Reserve Sy&tea to influence the cost and volume of credit are sufficiently powerful instruments for moderating business fluctuations and provide an edeq&Ate degree of monetary management. And he warns that everyone should recognise that the Reserve System ie only one of many influences on business fluctuations• He sayss "The final result reflects maay eausess fee wisdom or u&cdsdoa of business men in accusml&ting inventories, in starting new ventures, in keeping production costs and selling prices dow&| the soundness of labor union policies; the international situation; the thousands of ways government stimulates or retards activity; the spending or saving habits of the individual; etc. The Reserve System is ao substitute for sound policies in all these areas, nor can it wholly offset unsound policies. In the long run, the S C O E onie trand reflects the stresses and tha strains from all these fields." I commend thir* lecture* to your attention* I thought it proper to devote my attention tonight first to the so-called new phase of central bank policy v&ich «as inaugurated on June 2& whoa the Open Market Coumittoe issued the folloT&ag stat^aenti •The Federal Open Market CoEsnittes, after consultation with the Treasury, amaouncad today (June 2S) that with & view to increasing the supply of funds available in the sarket to meet the needs of commerce business, and agriesultar® it will b@ the policy of the Coffitaittee to direct purchase^ sales, and exchanges of Government s@euriti.os ty the Federal Reserve Banks with priss&ry regard to the general business end credit situation. The policy of maintaining orderly conditions ia the Gov&r&Bent security market and the eoafidenee of investors in Goveraaest boscUs will be continued. Under present conditions the saintsnance of a relatively fixed pattern of rates has the undesir able effect of absorbing reserves from the market at a tine the availability of credit should be increased • £here haa beea elaborate interpretation of this amsunceftant and spaea« lation as to its meaning, For example, the July 27 issue of the Guaranty Survey of the Guaranty Trust Conpaay of Hew lork has this to says "The committee1 s statement indicated that its priaary deavor henceforth would be to increase the supply of funds available to meet the needs of business, rather than C O B tinue to maintain a relatively fired pattern of interest rates on Government obligations through the gale of such securities, a policy which had the effect of withdrawing funds fra» the aoaey market = » • • *. -. The exact nature of the new policy# especially in its longer-tezn aspects, h been a subject of considerable discussion in financial circles since the statement t?as issued* For the immediate future,, the change seems to point'dearly in the direction of f easier' aoney. The nain question is whether this supposedly expansionary influence will be followed by correepondingly greater credit restraint i&ea the economic b®lmc<& swings again toward the inflationary tide, c On its face, the coomittee^a statement leaves ? O O B for the inference that such restraint idll be attempted—ia other words, that the wartime policy of maintaining rigid stability in tfc© Government bond market will be relaxed ia favor of a policy aimed at greater stability in eoismodity prices and business in general. If this Is the ease, and if the experiment proves successful, £ significant step toward healthier eeononie conditicns Trill have been taken* 8 The wording of the statement has been criticized in coae quarters as eabiguouso Certainly different isplications can be read into different parts, and tae coassiittee has left itself (as it probably intended to do) considerable lati tude ia the choice of specific courses of sctioa radar varying conditions = Rsad &s a diol@, however, the aanouncesent wist In fairness be interpreted AS indicating at least a teaporaty a&d perhaps a permanent shift of saph&sie toward greater flexibility and & bro&der objective of central-bask policy*» In analysing -the sige&fieaaea of this aev statement of p&lijgr, it sould be advisable to review t&e sionetaiy eireuB&tances of the last ttm ys&xs to bear 3JH aind the developments in that field sinee9 say 1935 In 1935 the basking system of the United States began piling up reserves to gn extent never dreamed of before. These reserves in part developed ivom & flow of capital and gold froa Soxope into this country ©a a trssieadons scale. 1!h© gold, it *&11 be recalled, mis valued at 035>00 c; ia ounce ia comparison with the former long-standing rat© of $2G»67 an ounce* Reserves naunted steadily and siraLLtaneously snort-texa money ratets drifted steadily Ssymamx& ixotil at one $tage there m a actually a aisais yield on. United States Treavsry bills. Urea th@ d®maads of the Federal goversaeztt for defioit financing did jsot rssalt in eontraetloa of SSZCSBS reserves or in firming of interest rates«. la 1936-37 bank reserve r@quir?^eats were increseed and ths problem of excess resorrae became the principal concern of the basking systea and of the moaetaTy authorities. There was a brief slump ia 193&* and requirements were, rsdueed s$omm^k&% iron the 1937 level« In Hoveaberj, 1941? baak rasarve reqalresumts were substantially raised to &ttac£c the inflation problem, and this action cut excess reserves substantially^ but still left them at a figure near four blllio&« We then entered the war and in the light of probable financing requirements of the ^overnsent, rates bzgm to stiffen.. Tliere d.eveloped at thla poll the so-called "pattern* of interest rates which prevailed throi^iout the war period—-3/8 per cant on Treasury bills, 2 1/2 p^r cent on tli* long-tex-ia bonds# and a aurv© ia between the two reflecting th© yields for intermediate maturities. In other nox-ds, an arbitrary •pattern* was adopted, sisd the islasslcal relationship between e^caes reeerfos and m.on<&y i!ate& disappeared. That war-time Mpattarn* of rates) was atowly sodifled afto? th® war had ended* But ia the process of maintaining the rate ^pattern® th© Teser^^e banks had increased their holdings of government securities from around two billion dollars at the start* to some 24 billion dollars at the end of the m r j ©xio: on this reserre base the b&aking system absorbed & trssieadoue amount of gpvernmen securitiese In Julj ? 194-7^ ih® repurch&se option o^ T5feasury billsP which had 1 • • effect of making theaa aliaost the equivalent of o*sh, was te2oin&.ted. ty the: Federal asd the rate on bills ros© sharply and continued to rise; to oim&cl 1 1/8 p@r cent* The rate on certificates rose in a parallel B p&ttera 8 B Late in 1947 the longer-tent goversment securities began to show the offset of increasiag dexiaad for credit and were bought by the Federal Reserve in considerabXe Eiaoimts ia order to s&intaia the Icatg^term 2 1/2 per cent rateOn December 24, 1947, the Open Market Goisiaittee reduced Its buying prices for bonds, and yields on eosic maturities rose very sharply; but to support the Reserve Syeten was obliged to btiy large quantities of bonds* 4 holdings of bonds rose froa one billion is late 1947 to over 11 billion in the latter part of 1«M&« Short~t@r& holdings declined in someimat the sass amount eo that the total holdings of the System did not inere&s« materially. During this era it was argued rather ntvongly in m®xy quarters that tfc© Reserve Systea should turn loose the pegs end perait its holdings of gcTersments to decline in order to elia&n&te excess reserve©, stop the esqpaiasion of b&sak credit and thereby brake the inflationary trend. This, however, would h&Ye insolved the abandonment of the support of the goYarmaent bond market, «bicb the Federal Reserve was not •sdlling to do« Tihera were strong arguments on both sides of that particular question; msnj people believed the coat in inflationary price rises was greater than the value of maintenance of the pegs and that they sh©uld, therefore, be dropped! others feared that a withdrawal of the supports would have a disastrous effect and that the supposed cur© isould be worse than the diseaseo Every linking person recognised that the Federal Reserve authorities «©re f&ced with a very difficult diicasa and that either coura© of action—sibaadosmdat or support of the bond pric® level—carried witfe it very serious rifsks and potentialities» ground the latter part of 194&* howsve?, th© question seecisd to solve itself to soiae isxtente Baak loans turned downward and the expansion of bink credit became a contraction. Th© pro&Uaa of restraining inflation dis&ppoai'ed and beease rather a problem of cushionj.ng a deflation. This very sketchy backgroiaid will parhaps ser^e to set the new policy pronouncement in the right scenery and clarify its meaning? the Federal Esserre is no longer withdrawing funds froa the money ss&xfcet to restrain inflation; it has turned to an affirmative policy of providing funds to increase the availability of credit. It seems proper to eoaa^ent that the Open Market Coesaittee probably did not mean to suggest that there mis a credit shortage* There is oertalnly %o such thing at the aomento Goamercial bank loans have gone down substantially during the past aevea aaonths Jiot becaus® of lack of availability of credit but because of a lei-dowa in the denand for credit. There have bssa in the history of the country nany shortages of credit, but that is a situation ^faieh Host certainly does not present itself today• We have had exceptionally aeasy isonsy8 conditions in this eoxrntry for a&ny years paste The addition of funds into the money market today can hardly be expected to have much effect other than psychological. Bank lo&ns m21 expand ^ien the deaand for loane increases aad lower rates will have little to do with that expansion* L sore favorable ecosoaie climate and more favorable prospects for business are the pre^roquisites to an increase in (iea&iiai £QT arodit. Sensible and equitable changes in tax policies are the most important steps that should b<3 taken o But froia the standpoint of the Treasury, easier rates present a eonsid-' arable advantage from the fiscal angle* The Treasury is facing very substantial refunding problems, and the fiscal policy of the administration is apparently Page 5 based upon the deliberate creation of a budget deficit. As a matter of fact the President recently stated that it would be ^economic folly® to try for a balanced budget undsr these condition* * The long range effects of th© easy credit pronouncement &r« a little harder to prophesy. The wording has been interpreted as announcing a greater flexibility of Federal Reservs policy. One wonders whether this i3 to be a two-way flexibility and whether political considerations ndll permit the reversal of the easy money policy when circumstances indicate the wisdom of that course. Probably the Open Market Committee deliberately left a degree of ambiguity in th@ statement* It w u l d perhaps be unfair to expect them to be more preclsa than they were. As a matter of fact the announcement of June 28 is really improperly called a *n«^* policy. In the pre-war era the Federal Reserve open market policies were presumed to be established «ith "primary regard to the general business and credit situation." Section 12 A of the Federal Reserve Act contains this language relative to open market operations: 9 The time, character, and volume of all purchases and sales shall be governed with a view to accommodating commerce and business and with regard to their bearing upon the general credit {Situation of the country.18 This is the language of the Federal Reserve Act since 1933 at which tiise statutory recognition was given to the "Federal Open Market Committee". In its August, 1949 letter, the National City Bank offlev.York says the following: •The objective of ^maintaining orderly conditions in the government security market6, restated with secondary empiaasis in 'the new policy statement, has no foundation in statute, though the Reserve System has always been attentive to the problems of Treasury financing and in the two world wars made assistance to the vast loan drives its prepossessing concern. The 'orderly markets* language nas first used publicly in the spring of 1937 vnhen reserve requirement increases, invoked to cut down excess reserves, threw the bond atarket into turmoil. The Federal Reserve entered the market and, with |200 million purchases of long-term governments, restored order. They again intervened in the market to soften the impact of the outbreak of the war in Europe in September, 1939* and thetalorcof Pearl Harbor in December, 1941T h e wisdom of theee emergency open market operations, in th© circumstances, nas never seriously questioned. But the easing of an unexpected shock is quite a different sort of thing than the detailed control of prices and trading raileh has been in effect since the 'pattern of rates* technique isas adopted in 1942. experie&ce of th.s postwar p. ias taught—not only here but in iSigland, £toeti«ii ar.d el6ettb@r«~»ifc&t when a cent:*: Icing system clsvotes itself to controlling government security pricee it reduces its po¥?er to control credit. The two things are incompatible.• The seme authority points out that the primary purpose of the Beserve System u^is to provide an elastic currency for this country, and t vid® a system under when the resezros of the banking structure would be mobil ised and made available to serve the purpose implied in the word "reserves*. So the ^nei?11 policy is roally a restatement of toe original purposes end intentions of the Federal Bsserve Act- It seems to me the significance is that conditions hava changed to an osctont that the wartime deviation from fees© original purposes can now be corrected end the System can revert to its original objectivesIn view of the frtque&t requests for nor© powers and controls by Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, ftfoich requests many of have felt unnecessary and \mwise, it seems pertinent to add, a few comments by people identified tdth the Syotcsa in its earlier days. The other day I read the proceedings of the .American Bankers Association convention of 1915* the year following tlie inception of the Federal Reserve System^-which convention by coincidence was held here in Seattle* In on address by Mr. F- A, Dala&Op ¥i«a Governor of the Federal !: • I found the following: central banks were not created to transact busine with the public but primarily9 as their name implies, for t purpose of holding tie reserve deposits of their aiming bsnks-, Among the important services which they may render to their aejnber banks the most important is the right to rediscount their paper and issue ba&k notes against it* Manifestly, t^aens the first great result of creating twelve banks has been to bind together all the national banks of the country into twelve strong regiments, thereby creating an effective solidarity, *Beferenca hag been mads to the fact that under the old system in effect, for fifty yearss there had been developed a system of depositing reserves of smaller basics with other and larger banks* This had led not only to serious duplication of reserves which rapidly evaporated in times of strsss but in addition to this, the results of active competition for deposits led to many vicious practices, such as paj&ng high rates of interest or granting speaial facilities or favors. Banks kept rsci-procal baXane&s with each other and by a system which might be likened to the time honored plan of •you. tickle me, I tickle y^u f , they got ahead, at least on paper. However., these methods vers not eond^civa either to safe banking or to lo* and steble interest rates for the public, Page 7 H@ne@ it s?as that one of the objects of this new lasr to n&ke banking less hazardous, z&ake profits fmrer, bat to aoeoapliela it in such e ??a:r tfcat the i&restor, the manufacturer, the merchant, each and all, could count en banking facilities in good times and bad and also a fair stability of interest rates0 "The new plan geek® to put the reserves #iare you can count on thes, The reserve© in the (central) r@a©aT© b&isk of the district are used expansively as the basis of note issues, so that instead of these reserves bsing iraavailable in ti&e of need they are at once available to the fullest extent* Tho operation, simple enough to most of you, consists ia allowing mejaber banks to bring around their coasmereial .paper and provided it complies td.th the sot onerous provisions of the law and roles of the Federal Reserve Boards you are giTen & credit on the books of the bask or, at your option, Federal Reserve notes for the full aaount*1* Mr. Delano added: e The rodiscounting of commercial paper of jsesiber baiake by the Esserve Bank is the chief function of the«?^ banks,..*.»e In the proceedings of tho coaventioa of the following y^ar, » Governor Harding of the Federal Hesarre Board, in hig address, s&id tbiai "The Faderal Reserre Board is not a legislative body; its functions are admiaistratiTe* Occasionally it has quasi** judicial functioas to perforr*, but in the aai& its duties are administrative« 9 Section 16 shrinks into insignificance as compared with the underlying principles of the Federal Reserve Aot9 the utilising of the cash resources of this country, the care of the gold, the ultimate monetary redesiptios., the only international sonsya fl That, gentleaen, is the hi^ieist prorince of the Federal Reserve B&nk, ^hich is to regulate and stabilise our currmey^ so that those of you who hold any foiia of paper money, issued through gDveromental agency, m y bs> enir© of your red»«a©3?~~ and that you can get the ©old !&®n the nesd for it arrives.* At that same aeetiag in the address of Paul H. Warburg, Yi«e Goveraor of the Federal Reserve Board, I found the following? •I believe it is safe to say that, in general, those laws have proved the best which put into legs! form e2&st3.ng usages already recognised by actual experience as sound both in. principle and practice,. R I» 1910 I published a tentative plan entitled, *k United Reserve Bank of the United States11 • Later on Senator Aldrlcn elation* | and, finally the Ows^-GIass committees devised t Federal Reserve Systesi", v&ich «as enacted iato law. Tbe ^ord ®res?3rveffi has bean embodied in ell these varying assiess and this is significant because the adoption of the principle of co-operative reserved is the characteristic feature of each B B£ ±a? as the name laplies<» what om# holds baek» It generally means as extra supply of something kept idle for purpose of being immediately available to teka ears cf increased demand in exeass of normal It mould seem, from these Ctseerpts that the primary purposes of the Reserve System were dearly and completely imderstood. M&& at this poisit 1 again csommaad to you Br* Burgees5 discussion of the proper scope of Federal Hesarve operatioES ar© maBy of us T & O feel that oven the additional powers requested so frequently fry the Board of Governors could at best senr© B O great purpose in the absence of a soimd overall, fiscal policy in this country. I believe it was Mr* Allan Sproul^ president of the Mew York Federal ReseTTo Ba2Jk(, idao said to the Senate Backing and Currency Coastlttee# ®We cannot do etrerything wrong ew^r^titBTfB else and then aspect to cure thi&gs ty bmak controls." Monetary managfieaaBt occupies a fle3x1 of tremendous importance end yet it n»ould seeia that the best monetary management would be a w r y poor substitute for sound fiscal i&anagaaent* The surriml of our way of life and nost certainly the eoatiouaiaes of our ability to help out in the survival of representative governments alxroad hinges on the solvency of this country and the soundness of its fiscal policy Recently Senator Byrd saidt "Without American solvency our constitutional freedoms would disappear at horn© ssd -Uiere iBould. be so detere&t to Casanjnissi abroad. Uad.er existing circumstances it is no exaggeration to say ther© Is literally nothing on earth sore isipe-rfcant than the preservation of the fiscal integrity of the Federal gavttrnneat of the United States and the financial stability of our free l Page. 9 W© &ra bsi&g told today that our badge t cannot be balanced even at the fantastic Isval of some 40 b5JJ.ions psr year. Political platforms of all political parties are built on prosds©s sad assurances to the people that goverssie&t will continue and increase th« cut-pouring of contribution and greats for every imaginable purpose. The Preeidsnt has asnouneeel a policy of dafieit financing to permit the continuance and expansion of -this w&Lfams state of ours< la 1948 over one-fourth of the national incase went to federal, rfcat* and local gowrsament, doubles the e&ount that went in that direction in 3 In the course of his recent financial study Senator Byrd concluded! *X am eonvinesa that in the cosing yoar ws shall extend our fiscal and economical stability to extrsmas ^ier» it say be unabls to tfithst&ndiag additional pnMScmres wiiieh are unavoidable in fiscal year 195!« W^en our fiscal sad seonomic stability weakens, there is c&rtain to be a d^aosv alising domestic crisis i«hich probably would be disastrous to our priTate enterprise system and, therefore9 to our f o m of It would seem that it is higfc time for ua to c^it worrying about tiTely unisportsnt proposals aad. eonceatrate upoa ths all iMportemt probloi of national fiscal policy* It, therefore, seems -to me that th® eidditioc&L controls recueated \t$ the Board of GoT®2iiors are relatiTely trivial ia importance and that the attention of the highest authorities in goTeri5BieK.t afeould be directed to the real problest. f?hen s. Gaaergeney operation is urgently ?n necessaryp the c-octor doesn't waste too saich tis# coiootaisg domi a broken finger mdX on the patient. Reeling as I do that the tax and fiscal questions are the important ones, I not© *&th pleasure aacL prfwde that tlie Ckai^aan of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System has within the past few deys himself dearly and convincing3^r in answering a questioa po®«d to his "by Ch&irnan Mayb&ak of the Senates BaEiking Cojisi^itt®©* Chairman Ihoaas B. Me was asked to espsrass his views as to shat should be done to improve the of equity fiaac;eingt on idfeich our ^hole eeononie structure rests» tor* McCaba suggested that the attention of the coamittee and of the Congress be directed toward changes ia the tax structure, 'with particular consideration of lowered surtax rates in fee uppetf braekat^ wo?® liberal carry-back tax prtj^isions for corporations, elimination of ^double t?ixatio of corporate ineosae, siors rapid depreciation allowances, and some changes the capital gains tax provisions» He also suggested the possible rsmoml of tax exsaaption from " exempted state ®M& local aeeuritiftSn consideration for iiasuranc© to take a plac© 5n equity financing to some extent, and several other ideas. P*.ga 10 He said among other things t "To realize our potential sustained expansion, w® need to be concerned sdth assuring a steady and adequate fl©\7 of savings into equity oimership. • It seems to me that.such a statement coming from the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board is one of the iacst imporiasi and encouraging pronounce-aents in recent years. Some months ago I had occasion to compliment former Chairman Marriner Secies upon the courageous and forthright Banner in r M e h he opposed many of the unsound proposals presented to the special session of the Congress last year. I think his position in respect to the; proposed housing legislation, for one example, was one of the most constructive contributions the Federal Beserve or its people could have made. It is a pleasure now to note ths contribution which Chairman McCabe has made toward better understanding and dearer thinking in respect to our'national economy. Bie Federal Reserve System is a creature of the Congress of the United States- It was created by the Gongres3 and is required to report to the Congress. It seems to me that it can best serve the people of the. United States by stating clearly and unequivocally that its own monetary policies ©an at bast do very little to create the right economic climate unless accompanied by a sound taxation and debt management and budget policy, which in the final analysis rests with the Congress and thus isith the people of the United States. September 9# K) Mr* Reno Odlin, President, Ihe iuget Sound National Bank, Taeoma 1, Washington. Dear Reno* lhank you very much for letting me have a copy of your address to the Pacific Coast Banking School at the University of Washington on Monday* August 22, 19lp« Inert, i s much that I can agree with in your talk, especially your complimentary reference to me in the next to the last paragraph* Ihere are other things that you would naturally know that 1 would not entirely agree with but I won't undertake to burden you with any detailed d i s oussion because I a sure that you have been "fed upn with m m y views a t numerous sessions of the Federal Advisory Council* Mowever, i t so happens that Larry Clayton made an address before a Virginia Bankers Conference at Charlottesvill© on September 8 in which he also discussed the recent lecture by Randy Burgess a t the Graduate School of Banking a t ifcatgers to which you referred, and I a taking the liberty of sending you a oopy of Larry's speech m because I think i t might help you in getting a somewhat different slant than that indicated in yovr talk* Looking forward to seeing you from time to time, and again expressing my appreciation of the opportunity of reading your speech, I am. Very truly yours, .. , laiclosure CM:am M. 3 . Eooles.