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INDEX TO BOOK 839 OF DIARY

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-AAcheson, Dean

839

119

HMJr thanks for cooperation - 4/21/45

Aiken, Senator George D. (Vermont)

17

Post-War Planning: Bretton foods
9

Alien Property Custodian: to be returned to Treasury
under Foreign Funds Control - discussed in group
meeting 4/20/45

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DIARY

Book 839

April 20-24, 1945

Barry, Congressman William (New York)
Post-War Planning: Bretton Woods

100 f., 231

Baruch, Bernard

149 f.

105 2,108,149f

Post-War Planning: Bretton Woods

217 rt.

Germany

Reparations

Bennett, Sterndale (United Kingdom Foreign office)

336 ff.

China

Burgess, Randolph

225 f.

Business Conditions

194 ff.

Post-Nar Planning: Bretton Woods

Hans IDEIDO on situation, week ending 4/21/45 - 4/23/45
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Chase national Bank

239 f.

Foreign Funds Control

Chicago Hereld-American

Robert Vanderpoel, financial editor, thanked for editorial
of 4/17 praising HIJr's financing of war

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Financing, Government (continued)

T.V. Soon(asks Truman for aore gold exports to China
9:30 group discussion 4/20/45
Resume by Coe of recent developments in anticipation
of discussions with Soong 4/20/45
Chinese Government misuse of U.S. financial help;
Chinese impose on U.S. in charges for Army expenses: hold up tin exports to U.S.
b) O.K. Yui, Minister of Finance, writes MAT 4/3/45
asking U.S. Cooperation (sent with Adler)
reply 4/20/45

Sale of $200 million U.S. dollar savings certificates
and bonds in Chine -- Coe nelso 4/21/45
a) Sold without consulting U.S. Treasury, probably
to benefit top Chinese officials; Coe shows
evidence.
Coe to see Patterson (War) and Clayton (State), to get
plan for Japan's defeat and opinion on China's request for gold - 4/21/45
a) Coe's report 4/23/45 on conference with Patterson,
Collado for Clayton) and General Cinstead:
Military plan calls for 20-30% of supplies for
U.S. Army from China. In spite of abuses, war
Dept. wants trucks and textiles sent to China:
State wants SUS50 million in gold sent to China.
finant talks to Sterndale Bennett in London to possible
help to stem Chinese inflation - Winent cable 4/24/45

Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's nail report 4/20/45

639 ff.

7th War Bond Drive (continued)

Letter to radio advertisers, advertising agehoies,

red 10 networks and stations 4/20/45
Hass Demo: Government Security Market and

40

ricing of 7th War Loan Issues" 4/21/45
Treasury Letter on behind-the-scenes news to RO to
all 48 chairmen: HMJr to group 4/24/45

Roosevelt, Franklin D., Condolence

Eisenhower, General Dwight D.
Post-War Planning: Germany

Foreign Funds Control
139 ff.

Chase National Bank case - discussion
4/24/45

Could, Florence: Resune of case and connection with
Banque Charles (gloaking German assets) by Coe
and Schnidt 4/20/45
Tuck, .. Finckney: License granted for purchase of
house near Geneva, Switzerland 4/20/45

Iwo Jime poster to be presented to President Truman
a) Marines who carried flag come to Treasury to be
presented to Truman 4/20/45

37

See Post-We Planning: Germany

336 r.
76

Gold cache with 3196 million discovered in salt
mines D.W. Bell memo to HIJr 4/20/45
Destruction in German cities described to HMJr by
McCloy HMJ tella group 4/21/45

Could, Florence

56

105

48

31 f.

Grafton, Sanuel
Post-Mar Planning: Germany

105, 250 II.

Hartnan, Joel S.

25 ff.

Hull, Congressman Werlin (Wisconsin)

102

1

7th War Bond Drive

48

Germany

120 ff.

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Independent Bankers Association

S.E. Flacek, President of Country Bank Division, wants
appointment with HAJr - Luxford memo 4/24/45

16

India
19

75

Roosevelt, Franklin D., Condolences

Tax exempt securities owned by Government: HIT asks

a) Bell-HMT conference 4/21/45

239 ff.

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189 ff.

Financing, Government
4/20/45

244

108, 115, 118

Post-Yer Planning: Bretton foods

Bell about replacing with 7th War Loan Long 23's

135 ff.

47

Foreign Funds Control

Dailey, Donald A.

839 33

FEA can't give india more funds

335

9

China

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Monnet, Jean

Discouraged after FDR's death: wants HMJr to come to
France in May to boost sorule

t
Japan

Winant talks to Sterndale Bennett in London re

"peace feelers' from Japan - finant cable 4/24/45 839 336 f.

-KKirk, A. (0.00 Ambessador to italy)
Roosevelt, Franklin D., Condolences

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639 107

Morgenthau, Henry, Jr.

New York Times mazazine article by - written by
Heary Murphy enthusiastically approved by four
4/20/45
V-E Day broadcast draft OK'd by HWJ 4/24/45

12

306

334

Nathan, Robert R.

HMJY congratulates on appointment as Deputy Director

for Reconversion - 4/21/45

Leffingwell, H.C.
Roosevelt, Franklin D., Condolences

28 f.

Lend-Lease

131

Netherlands

Lend-Lease

152

New York Times

article for

Netherlands

Lend-Lease agreement, like Belgian, given Dutch by
State Department 4/20/45 Coe memo 4/21/45 ...
$242 million schedule, exclucing long-lasting
articles

12

152

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a)

b) or Holland proper, not East indies

Patman, Congressman Wright

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Describes grief in Europe following FOR's death

105, 247 ff.,
333
107

HDT tells McCloy of FDR's trust in him: tells Treasury
group of his cooperative attitude 4/21/45

107

Mexico

Military Reports
4/20/45
4/21/45
4/22/45
4/23/45
4/24/45

220

Philippines

State Department cable 4/23/45 re political and
economic workings of liberation

211 r.

Post-Mar Planning

9

Government wants to re-establish stabilization losp
ending in June 1945 - White in group meeting 4/20/45

Perkins, Frances (Secretary of Labor)
HAJr conversation re Mrs. Morganthau 4/24/45

Bretton Woods
GO

184 f.
187
222
344

Small Business - Pepper Comulttee: Coe to work on
suggestions on how small businessman can get
more export business White peno 4/20/45 ****
a) HMJr to read own statement instead of White 4/20
b) Text of HMJ statement

2

Post-Mar Planning: Germany

Pepper Committee on Small Business
Post-War Planning: Bretton Woods

2

McCloy, John J. (Assistant Secretary of War]

16 r.

Post-War Planning: Brotton Woods

14 f.
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Germany (cont inued

Post-War Planning (continued)
Bretton Woods (continued)
Congressman Wright Patnan asks HMJr to see Fred

Florence, president of a Texas bank
HMJ1 to compliment Senator Alken (Vermont) on
Senate speech

Truman decides not to appear now in news reel
Connelly nemo to HMJ r 4/20/45
Group meeting 4/21/45

a) Hannegan tells HMJ Congresaman Barry

New York) will vote for Bretton Woods
b) Congressman Hull (Wisconsin) will vote

for it - Crowley tells HMJr
e) Luxford and O'Connell are talking to Wolcott. who is trying to work out compromise

with bankers. HATT says he will see bankers

Coe memo: suggested changes in revised drafts of

839 16 f.

55

ing

100 r.

102

postpone vote till after British elections:

149 f.

compromise. Luxford to handle Bretton foods

153 ff.

in

his

Treasury submits its changes, HAIr tell group
mtg.

4/24/45

Feltus memo 4/24/45 giving proposed public relations program

Peace" with outline of Morgenthau plan
Group meeting 4/21/45:
a) MeCloy conversations with Generals Eisenhower
and Bedell Smith in Germany reported to group

231

d) Depazification vs. economic efficiency discussed
e) Setting up courts to review accused Nazia

rank

308

75

105

since returni ne from Europe
Summary of Baruch-HMJr conversation 4/21:

British undecided whether to build up
Germany against Russia. Baruch vitally
interested in German future. Byrnes for
strong Germany, Baruch says

104Jr asks Truman to discuss economic future of
Germany on HMTr' is return from Florida,4/21/45
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145 ff.

discussed
Redrafted

e Fowler naks that FEA points be considered
in rewriting of March 23 document
Keeting of Treasury group 4/24/45 to discuss
finance and to send to Germany: A.H. Williams,
president of Charton School of Business (University of Pennsylvania) auggested

193

213 f.
318
317

247-300

250 ff.
256 ff.
265

267 ff.
273 ff.
279 ff.
287

293 ff.
297 ff.
301 ff.

DuBois memo 4/24/45 on weak VO. strong Germany in

Baruch attitude toward Germany right, HMJ.

tells staff: stronger for decentralization

discussed

f) Inflation control discussed

by 104Jr

b)

New version of paragraph

e) Clause banning disorimination because of

Germany

Samuel Grafton booklet "Let Germany Earn the

b) Discussion on deletion of permission to postpone arrest of Nazia

225 r.

Congressman Barry tells Americans United deleme-

tion he will vote for Bretton Woods group

Meeting held 4/24/45 on revision of 1067. Present:
D.W. Boll Glesser, Coe, HIJr (Treasury)
McCloy, Hilldring, Major Gross (War): Clayton,
Despres, Riddleberger (State) Crowley, Fowler
(FEA): Downey (Navy), Lieut. Bankroft.
a) HMIr asks whether the directive shouldn't
be sent directly to Eisenhower to take up
with Allied Control Council, Instead of
first being submitted by Winent to European
Advisory Council

Burgess should submit his recommendations before
4/24/45

Revised 1067 - text
a) Changes proposed by Treasury

102

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OK

Baruch-1347r conversation 4/21/45: Baruch would

absence

March 23 directive 4/21/45
attend meeting re March 23 directive - IDSF

Clayton asks HAJT 4/23/45 whether Crowley can

Clayton-HMJ: conversation 4/23/45 reported by
HMTr: McCloy, Clayton and HAJT to meet 4/24/45
on 1067 revision
a) Clayton-Hillr conversation 4/24/45 re meet-

17

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apparently not keep on Bretton Woods
White memo 4/21/45 giving his views on proposed

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105 r., 108

149 f.
144

McCloy-HMJr conversation re Germany summarized

330

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Procurement Division

Peble weekly report, week ending 3/24/45

Post-Var Planning (continued)
Reparations

HMTr tells Stettinius he prefers consultation with
Clayton instead of Grow 4/20/45
Progress of discussions with State discussed in
group meeting 4/20/45

Frank Walker going abroad in charge of preparations,
Clayton tells HUGT 4/24/45
Baruch-IDGJ conversation 4/24/45

Salter to head British delegation, President tells
Lubin - Treasury group meeting 4/24/45

Puleston, Captain W.D. (USN)

Roosevelt, Franklin D., Condolences

839 3

weeks

White meno on his part in conference: proposed
formation of Economic and Social Council
4/21/45

proved by Executive Committee on Economic

212 ff.
232

110 r.

161 f.

163 ff.

1) "Social and Economic Objectives of General

Internation Organization*

Reparations

See Post-Nar Plannings Reparations

Roosevelt, Franklin D.: Condolences 4/20/45
Genevieve Tabuis (Pour La Victoire
Captain T.D. Puleston USN'T
Hartman, Joel S.

R.C. Leffinwell
Donald A. Dailey (Rochester, N.Y. Postmaster)
A. Kirk (U.S. Ambanandor to Italy)
Memorial services in St. Paul's described by MeCloy:
Churchill weeps

21 f.
23 f.

25 ff.
28 f.

31 f.
334

107

Grief in France general.

Ross, Charles

2) "Outline of Proposed Relationships between
International Trade Organization and General International Organization"
Surplus Property
Transfer to Conserce Department completed 4/20/45

23 f.

214

a) Memos sent by State Department 4/16/45 apForeign Policy:

839 73 ff.

11

San Francisco Conference

White tells HMJr 4/21/45 he wants to stay 2 or 3

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Congratulated by HMJr on appointment ss press secretary
to President Truman 4/21/45

130

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a) HATT commends Pehle

of Budget

315

4/20/46

r) HMJr farewell letter to Surplus Property employees 4/24/45

Pehle weekly report - week ending 3/24/45

Snyder, John W.
69

313

71 II.

128

Soong, T.V.
China

Stettinius still engry about FDR's withdrawal of March 10
directive, HMJr thinks - 4/20/45
HMJr aska Frank Coe 4/21/45 to get plan from State and
War Departments on how to defent Japan
See also Post-Mar Planning: Germany

Press Relations

Fussell somo 4/20/45 suggesting press "aeminara" on bookground material

OUT congratulates as Federal Loan Administrator 4/20/45

35

5 ff.,140 f.

State Department

Taxation

Blough meno on planned off-the-record talks with
executives and newspaper editors - 4/21/45

44 f.

44 T.

e) C.S. Bell to serve as adviser in transfer - HATT
memo

Smith, arold
Tost-Mar Planning: Surplus Property transfer

52

Surplus Property
See Fost-War Planning: Surplus Property

3

b White SAYS publicity unsatisfactory
c Surplus Property news letter recounting transfer
d Obstructive attitude of Harold Smith, Director

108

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War Refugee Board (continued)

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Tabuls, Genevieve:

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21 r.

General (continued) - Cables:
Trobe 4/20/45 re Red Cross food parcels
Trobe asks 4/20/45 for search service for Central
Committee of Folish Jews in Warsaw
Armour 4/20/45 re unused quote numbers
Trobe 4/20/45 re sailing of British steamer from
Lisbon for Tangier
Leavitt to Trobe re budgets
Schwartz 4/21/45 re funds for Italian operations

Roosevelt, Franklin D., Condolences

Tax Enforcement

o'Connell memo 4/20/45 to HMJr: districts to interchange weekly reports; situation at Atlanta OK
a) HW says reports aren't good; asks O'Connell
to "put the heat on." Suggests check on farm-

70

112 r.

ers for income tax payment

Linder report 4/21/45 to Lesvitt on operations in
Belgium, Greece, and Poland

Tax-exempt Securities

Truman, President Harry S.

Treasury Department, duties of, reviewed in memo for
President
Memo re withholding of President's income tax sent
Prunan 4/21/45

Krook article in New York Times praising Trunan's
first week

Leavitt's relations with various U.S. relief

Trobe 4/23/45 re Saly Mayer and Vand Hatzala approprintion
Sehwartz 4/24/45 re funds
Resnik 4/24/45 re JDC rollef work in liberated
Bologne (Italy)
Reanik 4/24/45 re movements of personnel in Mediterranean area

175

186

0

306

V-E Day - HAIr broadcast for
Vinson, Fred

Blough unable to reach Vinson about taxes na HIJr

96

97

98

178

180 f.
207

agencies

4 T.

4

Activities to be discussed by Truman and EUJ reviewed
by Treasury group 4/20/45

95

Trobe 4/23/45: Saly Mayer requests information re

See Financing, Government

Treasury Department

839 94

Balkana omblea
Schwartz 4/21/45 re funds for Yugoalav relief
Troutman 4/21/45 re relief supplies for Sofin
Schwartz 4/24/45 re funds for Greece

339
341
342

177
183
343

Sweden

5,000 Danish and norwegian Jews arrive in Sweden
4/18/45 from German concentration camps, due

to Bernadotte negotiations (President Swedia

174

212A

151

Red Cross) - Hodel IDEMO 4/21/45

a) WRB parcela in Goteburg exhausted

Cables:

promised - Blough meno 4/21/45

Johnson 4/21/45 re finances and March operations

See Book 837, P. 173.

176

Norway

in

World Jewish Congress aska Storch whether food

supplies can be sent to liberated at Bergen
Belsen
ERB 4/24 to U.S. Legation in Stockholm re dis-

War Refugee Board
General

O'Dwyer report for period 3/26/45 - 4/7/45
of absence 9 days to Los Angeles with O'Dwyer
a) Settled by Pehle 4/24/45

Hodel-Pehle-EDIT: conference 4/21/45 on Model leave
Cables:

Harrison cable 4/20/45 re Armonian detainees in

124 ff.
243

338

Switzerland

69 Jewish refugees from Czechoslovekia arrive in
Switzerland 4/19/45 - Model memo 4/21/45

151

Cables:

91

MeClelland 4/20 re evacuation of Jewish Bergen
Belsen refugees from Switzerland to North
Africa

Germany

Enerson Intergovernmental Committee) 4/20/45 re
British Government's approval of his proposals
of 2/16/45 on Spain and Portugal

appearance of Reoul Wallenberg, Gwediah
attache in Budapest, Hungary

84 II.

209

92

WRB 4/23/45 to Bern for American Christian Con-

aittee TO relief to individuals

93

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Turkey cables:
Packer 4/23/45 from Ankara re departure of
SS. .Drottingholm from Istanbul 4/21/45

Dan Bell
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210

Secretary Morgenthau

Washington Post

HMJ thanks Eurone Meyer (publisher) for editorials
on Bretton foods and 7th Mar Loan - 4/21/45

127

I wish that between now and Saturday you would

Williams, A.H. (President Tharton School, Univ. of Pa.)
Post-War Planning: Germany

Winant, John G. (U.S. Ambuasador to United Kingdom
China, Japan

301

talk to me about how many tax exempts the government owns.

336 f.

I an thinking about selling some more of them, and replacing
them in the Seventh War Loan with the long 2-1/2s. Please

Volcott, Congressmus Jesse F. (Banking and Currency
Committee

Post-War Planning: Bretton Goods

102

be sure to talk to to about it.

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Date

April 20 19 45

TO: Secretary Morgenthau

This 18 to remind you that
you told Senator Pepper, in reply
to his request, that the Treasury
would be glad to work on suggestions
as to how the small businessman
could get more export business.

I've asked Coe to take care

of this.

H.D.W.

Mr. White
Room 3434

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I told Stettinius after Cabinet that I wanted to

talk to him and be asked me what I had on my mind.

I told him that I felt things weren't going very well

on reparations, and that I felt that Grew Just represented

the

old line
tradition inwas
the State
said Department. that he would I told have
him that
Clayton
fine,heso
Clayton come over to see me

I have the feeling that Stettinius is the kind of

man who carries grudges a long ways. He still hasn't
gotten over that cable that was sent while he was in
England telling him not to take up financial matters,
and I think what is burning him up now is that after
the President signed that March 10th memorandum it had

to be withdrawn and replaced with a new one.

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The main thing I asked you people to come in so early
for is because I an seeing President Truman at nine-thirty.

8:45 s.m.

I an seeing him on this thing (indicating). If you can't

hear no, Harry, why don't you bring your chair up?

GROUP

VR. WRITE: I haven't seen the final document, but I
an a little of the opinion, Mr. Secretary, that a much
shorter one is appropriate, because it looks a little too
much 0.2 though we are trying to impress him with all the
Treasury activities. And I thought If a shorter one could

Present: Mr. D. W. Bell
Mr. O'Connell
Mr. White

Mr. Gaulb
Mr. Blouch
Mr. Pehle

be used, which should include just the problems you would

like to take up with him, I think it would be a little

Mr. Luxford

more appropriate and a little more effective.

Mr. Eass
Mr. DuBois

MR. C. S. BELL: Dan has seen the short one.

Mr. C. S. Bell
Mr. Fussell

H.M.JR: Let no just PO over this, because he may ask

Mr. Coe

some questions. Tax stuff--that I understand is perfect,

Mr. Feltus

isn't it?

Mr. Bartelt

Mrs. Klotz

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H.M.JR: Did you get your memo.

MR. C. S. BELL: Yes. There is a very silort one with
a bit of planour in it which omita Customs, Secret Service,
and makes no mention of some of the financing operations.

If you wanted to TO a little further there is a second
set that brings in those other activities. I think possibly
you will like the shorter form, and we can get it on three
pages.

H.M.JR: Good morning, everybody. Mrs. Horrenthau

is better; otherwise I wouldn't be here. that was the

word they used? They thought she had a spasn instead of

another attack. All indications last night, electro-

cardiograph, blood pressure, and all seaned to Indicate
a spasm, and there was no damage to the tissue otherwise.
Those things usually show up within twenty-four hours,

so I thought I would code up for forty-eight hours and
then go back again.

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18. BLOUGH Sure.

H.M.JR: Law enforcement, I understand. China--Soong--

MR. WITH: 1 want to talk to you about that; it is
important.

H.M.JR: Do you want an appointment?

NR. WHITE: On that? Soong has seen him, and I would
very much like to see you before nine-thirty.

H.M.JR: Shall I give him an appointment for tomorrow
morning?

JR. WRITE: You decide that after I talk to you. I
don't think so, but I want to talk to you in some detail
about it.

H.N.JR: Is that so?
MR. WHITE: It wouldn't take long, five or ten minutes.

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MR. WHITE: I don't think you will be in a position

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to discuss it intelligently with the President. If,

H.M.JR: Well, what about gold? I mean, he will
ask me and say, What about it?

after Soong has discussed it with him--1 don't think the

President will be satisfied with just & no answer. I
don't know, but I think you will have to go into it in

151. WHITE: Chinese rold--

more detail, and I believe--wouldn't you agree, Frank--

that it is the most important thing that is likely to

President Truman will any, "Shall we or
shall we not let them have gold?

come up?

MR. COE: Yes, I think another thing, though--they
say they are going to do all these things in China. They
will only do It if we pay them gold. They'11 cut the
Army to three and one-half million if we pay them gold.

MR. WHITE: I want to talk to you today.
H.M.JR: for dear fellow, I have from now until
nine-fifteen.

L.M.JR: They'11 cut the Army?

IR. WHITE: It will only take five minutes; It is
immortant.

MR. WRITE: The own Army.

H.M.JH: what is the answer?

H.M.JR: why should they out them down?

MR. WHITE: No.

H.M.JR The answer is no.
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Mr. COE: To save on the budget and have better
troops, and so forth. The Generalissimo says he will do
that If NO pay them more gold.

c

MR. GITTE: No will need five minutes to discuss it.

MR. LUXFORD: From what I have heard, I agree with

Harry. This is one of the most important things.
MR. L.B. BELL: These items, Mr. Secretary, that you
kant to point out to the President are something you want
to discuss with him very carefully in the future and

H.M.JH: Try two minutes. Go abend.
MR. WHITE: Hell, Soon is here. and Leon Menderson

is here primarily to ret 10 much gold as possible. The
story that they have appears to be a very defensible one
that they are roing to re-establish, order reforms in
China, but that is not the real reason in either Soon
aind or the Generalissimo's mind. I don't know what is
in Henderson's mind. He now is adviser to the Chinese

before he takes any action on them.
MR. WHITE: That is right.

MR. D.W. BELL: And that he ought to get a complete

Government at a very fancy salary.

story because Soong has already seen him.

H.M.JR: How mach?

H.M.JH: That is a good point.

HR. WHITE: I don't know how much, but name your own

MR. WHITE: That is the point. Not only has Soong
seen him, but Leon Henderson Is seeing everybody in town,
The Secretary of War, Navy, Commerce, Nelson, and Crowley.

figure, and you won't be far from it. And the political
ramifications are the nost important things, Mr. Secretary,
1 think, that are on the docket.

I.E.JR: Yes, but 1 am roing over the paper and--

H.M.JR: He hasn't seen Mrs. Klotz or me.
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WHITE: The same thing there--they are all here the now.

They MR. have just arrived with a group to give us

factual data.

MR. WHITE: He wants to.

H.M.JR: was Pleven here?

Has. KLOTE: Thank you, Harry.

WRITE: Pleven is coming this neek, and here he with is

MR. but their Treasury man came

JR. PABLE: He is earning his salary.

the going answers to see to you, the questions that we had asked him before

the negotiations.

H.M.JK: Well, where does that leave Tom Corcoran?

H.M.J.H. Did he bring any cognac with him?

MR. WHITE: I wouldn't be surprised but we will
hear from him, too.

MR. WE: He brought Monnet instead.

H.M.JRI well, I think Dan Bell made a good suggestion.

MR. D.M. BELL: This is a stimulant.

In other words, I should handle these as a sort of red flag--

H.M.JR: Jean--

MR. D.N. BELL: This is an agenda that you want to

discuss with him.

H.M.JK: Have you got a copy with you? I will
take the short one.

WHITE: There is a BASS of discussions on to that, the

and that MR. is something else you will want to talk

President about later.

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MR. C.S. BELL: Yes.

MR. WRITE: And if you want to go down the list there--

MR. WHITE: That would be particularly true about the
British, for example.

H.M.JRI That is what I an doing. Mexico.

H.M.JRI what about the British coming inf

WHITE: Mexico, you will remember, wanted June, to re- and

MR. their stabilization loan which ends in with then

(Mr. C. S. Bell leaves the conference temporarily)

establish that is, too, something you may want to take up

later.

MR. WHITE: I think you can give him . brief statement

of how you left it with the British authorities and that

H.M.JR: India.

they are coming here right after V-6 Day to discuss
financial
assistance
with
you.
That is another thing
you
will want
to talk to
hlm
about.

WHITE: Indian silver.
H.M.JR: Enemy assets.

H.M.JR: I think that is the best approach. I only
asked for fifteen minutes.

There is one more development on Indian
silver. Mr. WE: FEA is running out of money and can't give then

France--

enough to hold then over.
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H.M. JR: You don't know.
MR. LUXFORD: They were a sickly green.

MR. PEHLE: I doubt whether Treasury would want

it. I doubt it.

H.M.JR: After we were up an hour I had hyman eating
pickle.

1R. LUXFORD: You just not rid of one of those dirty
jobs, Mr. Secretary.
MR. PERLE: Unless the Treasury is awfully free to
handle the thing, there will be all kinds of complications
like Colonel Johnson of the General Dyestuffs Corporation
and you ought to be awful free to snuff all that out.
you are, I think it would be pretty bad at this moment.

(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. COE: The rest of the German stuff is going comparatively well.

Unless

H.M.JR: That is the interpretation of 1067, but the
reparations is lousy, huh?

H.M.JR: How are the directives coming along on the

MR. COE: State's opinion-according to the latest
word, they are trying to bring Clayton back.

peace plans?

MR. WHITE: Well. there may be a serious development
with regard to reparations, and you not 0 nemo, didn't you!
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(Secretary holds a telephone conversation with

MR. DuBOIS: There was a meeting Monday at which
Clayton completely changed his position on the whole

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Colonel Adams.

MR. WHITE: I am getting in touch with McCloy to

H.M. JR: Just to break the tension a minute, I took

settle what's going to be a major issue. He has just

two doctors down from New York, one a famous heart

cone back.

these specialist and the other the family doctor, so when we know got

up about ten thousand feet I said, "You know, I don't
whether you want oxygen or not. So Doctor Levy takes
his pulse, and Doctor Hynan quickly takes his, and I said,
"who is going to do Morgenthau? (Lauchter) Each one grabbed
his own pulse, you know, so quick, and as a matter of fact, nice.
as you TO up,your pulse speeds up. But they were very
If you had seen Hyman, you would have thought so.

H.M.J All right, that is a very good memo, Charles.
I compliment you.

MR. C.S. BELL: Dan has been over it. You are in
agreement with it, aren't you, Dan?
MR. D.W. BELL: Yes, for the purpose you are going

to use it. It is not very complete as a report, but as
an agenda, it is perfect.
H.M.JK: Non, I would like to say this. (Signs memo

VR. FELTUS: The only doctor I ever saw ans completely
green-skinned.

H.M.JR: He walked in the plane, and I said, Meet

Mr.

to the President, dated April 20, 1945.)

Feltus. 'Not the Mr. Feltus, he said. "I have been

looking after your wife for weeks. She is a very nice lady."
Luxford is the cruelest person you ever saw. If you had
seen him laugh at Feltus and Bernstein. They not paler and
paler.

Where is Fussell?
MR. FUSSELL: Here.

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material from some of the speeches I made on the trip to
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Mr. WHITE: Was that Henry Murphy?

H.M.JR: This memo that you sent me--this article
for the New York Times of its kind is the best thing that

VR. HAAS: Yes.

has ever been given me by far.

MR. WHITE: Try him on the next speech. I don't
think he has had much chance to do any of your speeches,

MR. FUSSELL: Mr. Murphy did it.

has he, George?

H.M.JR: It is superb. Well, I want to see it. Did

MR. HAAS: Henry is not looking for any--

he do that entirely himself?

His D.W. BELL: Leave him alone.

MR. HAAS: lie had the first draft written by somebody
his staff, and 1 went over it and made some changes, so
it was primarily his.

H.M.JR: He said, "Do I have to turn the clock back

on

ten years, but It is--1 mean, get a thing like that that'
is well put together--I recognise speeches I made in Los

H.M.JR: It's a superb job. I have two little

Angeles and--

suggestions. I never like to speak of soldiers as
"our boys. I put in "our men, and 1 put in one other

MR. HAAS: The AF of L speech.

word, "good," and under my name if they would put--say

H.M.JH: But the may it's put together, it's a
beautiful job. Now, let ne just talk to my sister-In-law

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donated to the New York Times.

I am planning to go back there tomorrow afternoon.

MRS. KLOTZ: They know that.

Joan is down there now. You will be interested, and I
haven't told you this--just to digress--that Joan did

MR. WHITE: They mon't use that phrase.

paper for graduation about the embargo of England and
France arainst Spain during the Revolution, and she got

H.M.JR: Why not?

the first A Vassar had given in two or three years. I
talked to her history teacher, and he said it was worth
an M.A.. and she ment to the original debate in the
Parliament and all that for her source. They have that
at Vassar. It is very interesting.

MR. D.W.BELL: They certainly wouldn't leave that
in there.
MR. WHITE: There must be some other phrase that
will meet the same purpose.

1R. WRITE: Is she looking for a job?

MN. FELTUS: They have their own formula. I don't
know what it is, but they are not going to use it.

H.M.Jas No, she' continue school in the fall.
MIL WHITE: She's going to continue in history?

H.M.JR: Fussell, see what you can do. Does that

H.M.JH: No, physicians and surgeons course, but I
thought I would bring it down anyway. I thought you would be

appear on the 13th?

MR. GAMBLE: In the magazine section of the week of
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to have it "donated to the New York Times. I don't
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MR. O'CONNELL: They start on time with Rayburn.

interested in reading it. It's interesting. It is in

I don't quite agree with you on that, Harry.

the Vassar Library, They have the original debate that
took place in the French Parliament.

MRS. KLOTZ: I didn't get that.

MR. WHITE: They have a good library at Vassar.

MR. O*CONNELL: I don't quite agree with Harry. I

don't think there will be the 'difficulty with Harry

H.M.JH: In the ten minutes we have left--I find
President Truman runs on time--are you all set?

reading your statement this morning that Clayton got
into the other day reading Stettinius' statement, because

MR. GAMBLE: I'll double check before we go.

everyone knows when it was decided Harry would read your

H.M.JR: Where are those two men?

there. The fact that you are temporarily in town for a day
doesn't make it necessary for you to go in there this
morning if you want to go somewhere else.

statement it was because you not in a position to be

MR. GAMBLE: They are due here now. 1 will see
if they are here. (Mr. Gamble leaves conference temporarily.)

H.M.JH: I'll come up the minute 1 get through over
there. I will go from Hrs. Acosevelt to Speaker Kayburn's

(The Secretary holds a telephone conversation
with Mrs. Josten.)
MR. WHITE: Mr. Secretary, I am supposed to go up to
the Senator Pepper Committee to read your statement. Now,

room and from there to Senator Pepper.

MR. WHITE: I'll tell Senstor Pepper that you have
just arrived and that you want to appear, and that you

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H.M.Jh: I spuld like White, Luxford, and Bernstein to go

much out of you if you go up and read your own statement.
We can postpone it until eleven o'clock if necessary,

with no.

fuss they have made about postponing their time for you,

MR. WHITE: Unfortunately, Luxford and Bernstein
ought to be at the hearing of the banking and Currency

because if they hear you are in town and after all the

and then to have me go up to read it, I kind of think it

Committee.

would be--

H.M.JK: well--

H.M.JR: Can you go with me from one to the other?

MR. WHITE: If you could get through about half past

MR. WHITE: Yes.

ten--

H.M.JK: That's sufficient.
H.M.JH: I hoped to join you fellows at the Speaker's

MR. WHITE: Thank you.

this morning.

H.M.JRI You're welcome.

MR. O'CONNELL: Ten-thirty.

MR. WHITE: Hearings on Banking and Currency are

H.M.JK: If I have fifteen minutes with Mrs. Loosevelt,
I think I can go up there. They never start on time.

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MR. LUXFORD: Fred Florence.

(Mr. Gamble reenters conference.)

H.M.JR: I know him.

H.M.JR: where are your boys?

VR. LUXFORD: He thinks he has an idea on Bretton
Woods that may be able to swing the bankers, and he
would like to talk to you Tuesday or wednesday of next

Ma. GAMBLE: They are all here. The third one caue
yesterday from Imo Jima. The Indian is here,and they have
added him to the party.

neck, if that's possible.
H.M.JR: Wednesday would be all right, at three

H.M.JR: Have you got the picture?

o'clock.

MR. GAMBLE: The picture is here. Do you want to

MR. WHITE: Could you call Senator Aiken? He has

see it?

made a wonderful speech about Bretton Woods and is making

another tonight. He's a Republican from Vermont.

(Mr. Gamble leaves the conference temporarily.)

would
that
get in touchbecause
with him, you can handle

H.M.JR: Sure.

MR. WHITE: If you are going to see Kr. McCloy, I

MR. WHITE: Compliment him on the speech he made on
the Floor of the Senate.

problem with him better than we can outside, and if you
can get an understanding with him In your discussions--

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(Mr. Gamble reenters the conference and shows the

H.M.JR: when you go back dictate a little memo and
give it to Mrs. Klots.
MR. WHITE: I'd do it before he speaks tonight.

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Secretary the poster for the Seventh war Loan.)
H.M.JR: who framed it?

H.E.JR: I'll do it.

MR. GAMBLE: we framed it. It's more likely to be
put up in the White House if it is franed.

Where does Surplus Property stand now?

H.M.JK: Well, why don't I try to see if I can get

Mr. PEHLE: The Executive Order is on the President's

Mr. McCloy over here tomorrow morning?

desk, isn't it, Charles?
MR. C.S. BELL: It was since last night. We followed

MR. WHITE: Fine, and give us a few minutes either
later this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
H.N.JRI what else?

it up,and at five o'clock it was still in the basket.
MR. PEHLE: The whole thing has gone much more
smoothly than we hoped.

MR. LUXFORD: Mr. Secretary, Wright Patman stopped
us yesterday and asked whether or not you would be willing
to see Fred Florence, who is President of the second biggest
bank in Southwest Texas.

H.M.JH: I want to say in front of the nine-thirty

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who are present that I have been delighted at
what John Pehle has done. He has done better or as well
as anybody else could have done. It's wholly up to him
whether he wants to stay or not, but I hope he will come
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MR. C.S. BELL: Harry, they didn't get the press

release out at the white House. It was difficult to
do a whole lot with it.

thirty group.

MR. PEHLE: + an going to. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
I talked to Mr. wallace yesterday and he asked the to come

MR. WHITE: AS long as it is going to be done
sometime in the future--

over, and I said I wouldn't. I sent you a memo on that,
but as far as that is concerned, I think the shift will

S.M.JR: Would you people like to meet these three
fellows and see what they look like?

be made pretty well.

MR. WHITE: Mr. Secretary, I don't believe the
publicity is satisfactory. That's my own impression.
1 think It should be made clear in the papers that
this was done at your request and initiation. There

(Pfc. Gagnon, Pfc. Hayes, and P.M. 2/c Bradley
enter the conference.)

H.M.JR: I thought you people would like
to meet the gentlemen around Treasury, good or bad,

were some passing remarks.

H.M.J.: AS we say up in Minnesota, "A 'yob' has
been done. It mon't be done for . couple of days.

and 1 think if we could start over and go right out
this elevator, we could all go GOLD together.

MR. PEHLE: On the whole it is pretty good 80 far,
and they should improve the publicity.

Go out that door and I will join you,and no will
all go over and see the President.

HR. C.S. BELL: Some of it is very good, this one

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(Pfc. Gagnon, Pfc. Hayes, and P.M. 2/c Bradley
leave the conference.)

in particular, (indicating clippings).
H.M.JR Yes, but I think--

H.M.JH: Is this & public hearing of Truman's?
MR. WHITE: Yes.

MR. WHITE: before today, I didn't think the job
was satisfactory.

RS. KLOTE: Pepper, you mean.

H.N.JH: In a sense It is much better to have
nothing that you know of than to have them say--

H.M.JH: Oh, yes.

MR. LUXFORD: They are likely to have & lot of guest
Senators on it, too. Any Senator that wants to come in

MR. PEHLE: The talk was that "allace got something,

but there was very little talk that the Treasury is being

and be a guest can do so.

stripped. I S&W none of that, Harry.

H.M.JH: Feltus, supposing you go up and take Mrs.
Klotz with you and be up there at eleven o'clock.

MR. WHITE: No, I didn't either.
MR. PERLE: I think we were lucky, myself.

MR. WHITE: Where do we see you next?

H.M.JR: Lucky
MR. PEHLE: I know the work that was done I did
some myself. But, nevertheless, it could have gone wrong.
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H.M.JR: I'll meet you at Kayburn's office as
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Mr. WHITE: They particularly want you to speak
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H.M.J.: You will have to have my speech.
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April 30, 1945.

by dear Natana Taboutor

It was nont tital of you to write

with se much faciliar - Leernian of the

death of President 10 10, as

you any, . transity for Ameries and for the

verta, and Prs. Heagenthen and I also preciate your understanding of our personal loss.

Thank you also for year word of -

part for the program and principles which

our great President complified. I have

received the - of "Pear 1a Violatre*

which you vers on reed no to send - and
thank you for 11. 1 also appreciate what

you said of - own service to the Addition
tention.

with removed approciation of your letter,
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgentheu, Jr.
Nedane Depenteve

and Publisher,

Pirostos
Pour 1a Victoire,

535 First Avenue,
New York 17. New Took.

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PHONE MURRAY HILL 1.4208-59

April 17, 1945
The Honorable Heary Morgenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Morgentham,

I tried to et in touch with you and Mrs. Korgenthau

since the death of President Roosevelt because knew how inmengurable is your sorrow and I syself WILE in such destair that

I felt that my only possibility of consolation and hope for the

future could come from seeing you who have been one of the great

builders of the Roosevelt New Deal for America and for the world.
These few words are to tell you how deeply I have been
thicking of you and Mrs. Morgenthea; and aleo that, although I

feel great despair. consider is my duty and the duty toward

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life-lone work to continue more than ever before to defend and
support the wonderful world policy of the President both here in
my paper *Pour la Victaire* and in the two Paris papers, "A"Aurore"
and ****** et Jour of which I have been foreign correspondent since
the liberation of France,
A my of hope came to me this morning when I san is the
Times that it RISE belie ed you would accept to continue working

for all of us throughout the world, as you have been doing. I an
coing to pray that this is 80.
Please convey to Mrs. Morgenthan my kindest thoughts
and believe THE to be, dear Mr. Margenthan,

Faithfully,

Seventure Towns
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ity dear Certain Pulestens

Thank you for your vare expression of
sympality in the death of President leasevall.
I accrediate your apasida with se reach
understanding of - our close association

14th his during these difficult var years.

It has intend been an instrume parted on
which to look beat.

1 approciate year having written no.
and your expression of symptom
Sincerely,

(Digital H. Morgenthau, in

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Dear Mr. Northens

Thank yes for year letter of personal

Dear Mr. Morganthaus

My year in the Treasury Department

sympathy in the death of the President, and

revealed to as your deep devotion and loyalty to our late
President and Commander-in-Chief I know better than sost

for sending . any of your son's letter. I can

what personal less his death is to you. In the depth

well this your pride is his service to

the
fact
that
your
of found your satisfaction
grief,
you
loyal
pleasure services and helped

his country. His expression of devotion to the

can recall with sombre pro-

his to carry the incense burdens of his great office,

especially in 1939 and 1940, when you assisted his in that
most difficult of undertaking, giving prompt assistance to
Great Britain,

netery of President lessevelt is infeed .
fine one.
Sincerely,

w Sincerely, Duleston
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthan, Jr.,
Department of the Treasury,

Fifteenth Street and Pennsylvania Avenue,
Washington, D.C.

Mr. Jost 3.
33-16 157th Street,
Finahing, Lone Island, New Teste.

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my Dear Im morganthaw

when you are your dear, dear

friend mrs. Roosevier, I though San as a
copy of the letter from our added may

bring a tiny my of comfort
at 17 he volunteered out of

Harvard university to join the army an
air Force and was Radio Operator
a search mission for a lost plane a

on the attantic accase when

cut in announced the President's
passing

Mrs. Hartman and I send our

deepeat sympathy to you and yours

in your great personal loss
sincerely,

gost J. Hartman
april
in
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I'm sorry I miss^ed you at Easie's today - I wanted
very much to speak to you.
The President' death brought to an and the career

April 20, 1945.

nan, the like of which we'll probably never see in this
generation or century again. As I hear and see all the
tributes being paid him. I just wonder whether the American
people are as willing to do justice to a man's work as they
claim they are. The irony of having to die to be appreeisted will never be fittingly explained to no.
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of

Dear Mr. Leffingvell:

During the last campaign I thought many times about
then
that Sunday in 1941 when the Jape hit us. Iwondered
if the American people would remember how they felt on that
I know 1 thanked God that at least one man had had1944
day.
the foresight to prepare us 0.0 much as he had. When
came - people forgot and not until now na he lay dead. was
his real greatness realized and extelled.

Thank you very much for your letter of April 18.
What you said of the President's death is indeed true.

The loss is a terrific one to the country, and those of
us who vere personally acquainted with him experienced

. shattering blow.

It is good of you to say what you do of my own work
as Secretary, and to express such confidence in the

I only hope and pray that in these past few days
the supplications of nation and a world were board over
that "last barrier and he at last could hear our thanks and
know the real, the deeper feeling we all had for him. The
wonderful things that he did for us as a nation and therefore

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both approach the subject on which you disagree is a frank

and objective manner.

indirectly the entire world, can never be forgotten. We're

fighting now for the things he worked for most - peace and
security
No man in the service of his country has given more

than Franklin Roosevelt his life was the last contribution

he could possibly have given. We must now prove to him and
our cons ciences that we are worthy - worthy to have had such
a man as be work for our futures.
I've grown up under the tutelage of the times
certainly his enlightened policies have had their effect on
no and will in the future do much to mold my thoughts
Needless to say countless others of the young people today
will be influenced in the name way.

future. I also appreciate your connent on the interview
with Harry D. White, and I an glad you felt that you could

Ve have been very wash concerned by Mrs. Morgenthem's

illness, but I as glad to say that she has improved

considerably is the last day or two. I feel that she is
in TOTT good hands, but of course as anxious for her to

to

reach the point where she may return home for her con-

valescence.

with thanks again for your letter, and certified personal

regards,

Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthaw Jr.

Let's hope we are worthy of his faith in US.
Love,

Arthur

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LEFFINGWELL

Dear Mr. Secretary:

President Hoosevelt's death

has been a great shock to all of un. His
loss is irreparable. I felt his death deeply
myself. I had known him . long time and had
not only high admiration but sincere affection for him. I know what his death must
cean to you his close friend and 1 send you
my heartfelt sympathy.

I have been greatly relieved

and greatly relieved to hear from Assistant
Secretary White that she is better.
I did enjoy our talk with Mr. White
very such. He is persuasive and interesting,
and his knowledge and understanding of the

problem are profound I wish I could any I
agree with him. Though I cannot say that, I
was much impressed by him comprehension of

the problem and by him full and frank discussion of it.
with very high regard, I am. my
dear Mr. Secretary

Oto read is the papers that you are to continue
as Secretary of the Treasury. Your administration has been very successful. You have
carried the appalling load of war finance

manfully and well. The job is being well
done.

I was distressed to hear, at

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Faithfully yours

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

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ROCHESTER 3. NEW YORK

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Apr. 18

DONALD DAILEY

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April so, 1945.

Non. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury

Dear in Tailey

Washington, D. C.

16 use more of you to vette - as you

ity dear Mr. Secretary

ass

I know how keenly you must feel over

of of association
which
1 years.

the passing of President Roosevelt as one

- cause - of April have the less and 10, online enjoyed in extending expressing the death during the your of close your the President grantly past own great be

This are, as yes any, - . terrific personal

who has been so closely associated with

Mev. and 11 is as even more timele less to
the country. Your word of companity to roch

him during the past several years as you

appreciated.

have. His death must fill your heart with

Sincerely,
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sorrow and I sympathise with you.

I feel it has been . privilege for me

(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

to have known the President as long as I
had and to know I was one of the great

No. Result A. Dailey,
Feetmenter,

army of citizens in this country whom he

Jochecter 3. Yes Toot.

considered a friend. We will all miss his

. lot. It is too bad he couldn't have lived . few more years to ... the fruits of
his labors.
Sincerely yours,
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To All Radio Advertisers, Advertising Agencies,
Radio Networks and Radio Stations:

In the Seventh War Loan we will need your

cooperation more than over before with . 7 billion
dollar quote for individuals, 4 billions in Series E
bonie alone, the Treasury 1. undertaking the greatest
financing operation in history.
The next few months will be cruelal to the

whole American var effort. The good news from Europe
may breed denrerous overconfidence in our people
and encourage . spirit of let-down and relaxation.
Such a reaction would imperil such that has been
accomplished in the past, and leave us in no position
to deal with the tremendous problems of the present
and the future.

It is vitally important, therefore, that the

Seventh War Loan be given all possible support. It
is the cost significant way in which Americans on the
homefront can express their determination to ann the
war through to ultimate victory.
The generosity of advertisers, their sgenoies
and broadcasters in allocating redio advertising time
to previous var loan drives encourages us to hope

that you will go all-out for a Hightier 7th
Sincerely,

To All Radio Advertisers, Advertising Agencies,
Radie Networks ant Radio Stations:

in the !eventh Ver Loan ve will need your
cooperation more than ever before with . 7 billion
dollar quote for individuals, 4 billions in Series
Lense alone, the Treasury 1. undertaking the greatest
financing operation in history.
The next few months will be cruels1 to the
hole American var effort. The good news from Europe
say breed dangereus overconfidence in our people
and annourage . spirit of let-down and relaxation.
such . reaction would importion such that has been
economiched in the past, and leave us in no position
to deal with the tremenious problems of the present
and the future.

It is vitally important, therefore, that the

Seventh Yet Loan be iven all cossible support. It
is the cost significant way in which Americans on the

homefront can PROFESS their determination to see the
war through to ultimate victory.

The generosity of advertisers, their agencies
and brondenators in ellecting relio advertising time

to previous war loan drives encourages us to hope

that you will o all-out for a Mightier 7th!
Sincerely,

/=/ Heary Morgenthis, Jr.
/n/ Henry Morgenthan, Jr.

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of the post. If there is any way is which my

office - be of service to you, I hope you

will not hesitate to call - us.

with certial regards and best vishes,
Sincerely,

(Signed)

Honorable John W. Synder.

Federal Loan Administrator,
Washington, 3.0.

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FEDERAL LOAN HEAD

SNYDER APPOINTED
LOAN AGENCY HEAD
Truman Names an Old Friend

St. Louis Banker-Nominee
Praised by Jesse Jones
By LEWS WOOD

President
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Cairo, Egypt, April 3, 1945

APR 2 0 1945
AIR MAIL

My dear Mr. Minister:

PERSONAL

I an writing in response to your letter
of April 3, 1945, concerning your proposed purchase
of a house near Geneva, Switzerland.

Representatives in New York of Foreign
Funds Control have consulted with Mr. Alexis Coudart
concerning the matter, and I an happy to inform you
that the necessary Treasury license was issued to
Coudert Brothers on April 19, 1945.
Many thanks for your kind wishes, and may

I extend my regards to you and Mrs. Tuck.
Sincerely yours,

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I an writing in the hope that you will be kind

enough to assist my wife and myself in connection
with
matter which is of great personal interest
to
us a
both.

We are at present negotiating for the purchase
of a house near Geneva, Switzerland and the matter
is in the hands of my wife's lawyer who is Alexis
Coudert, 2 Rector Street, New York City, The house

in question is the property of a certain Baron
Emeric de Pflugl, a former well known Austrian diplomat who was for years associated with the

later, after the

of signed Nations from
and hisservice
who Anschluss,
League
country's
and became
a re-

naturalized Swiss citizen. He now resides in
America with his wife who is American born.

Baron de Pflugl, for reasons which Mr. Coudert

can explain. desires . partial payment for the
property to be made in Swiss francs it

us to for a

the fore
necessary
for apply
and license
is fromwill
there.
Treasury
for that
purpose.
Mr. Coudert

(Signed H. Morgenthau, Ja.

Secretary of the Treasury

Henorable S. Pinkney Tuck,
The American Minister,
Cairo, Egypt.

shortly apply for license. in he has not already

done so by the time this letter reaches you. He
will explain at the same time why a payment in Swiss
francs is necessary and can also furnish the Treasury
with
pertinent
details it may require with regard
to theany
proposed
transaction.
We would be most grateful If you would give

favorable consideration to our application for a
Treasury license as the acquisition of the Geneva
property
The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of Treasury,
Washington, D. c.
CPSeits:mbw 4-19-45

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property means a great deal to us both. I had spent
many happy years there when my father was still alive
and Katherine, whose father was . Swiss citizen, is
as anxious as I an to have . home in Switzerland
after my retirement from the Service.
We so often look back on those peaceful days of
1938 spent at Antibes when we came to know you and

your family. I hope that all goes well with your
sons. My older boy is a Corporal in the Marines. we
were fortunate to have been able to leave Germany a
year ago after a long period of internment and we
are now greatly enjoying our stay in Egypt. I may

have told you that my father lived in this country

for twenty-six years when be was the American representative in the Mixed Courts.

Please convey our kindest regards to Mrs.
Morgenthau. Anything that you feel you can do to
help us in connection with our application for a
Treasury license would be deeply appreciated.
Yours sincerely
in

mm

3. Pinkney FORM

American Minister,
Cairo, Egypt.

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DATE April 20,1945
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau (For information)
Mr. Coe FC

Subject: China
In connection with discussions which you may have with

Dr T. V Soong, you may be interested in the following sunmary of Treasury recent experience Chinesa Government The record clearly dicates that the Chinese Government not only tries to get as much 8.8 possible from us whether
Justifiable or not, but continue to misuse the financial
assistance which has been given. Moreover there is considerable evidence that top officials of the Chinese Government
have enriched themselves from funds granted to China under the
8500 million financial aid agreement.
Gold sales in China.

The matter in which the Chinese h ve shown the greatest
interest and concern in their dealings with the Treasury in
recent months is the export of as mu told as possible to
China. They would like to withdraw $180 million of the $240
$500 million million
which remains
on the books
the Treasury
under
financial
aid agreesent
toofcurchase
gold
to the
be
exported for sale to China in addition to the million of
gold which has already been purchased end exported. This
gold is being sold inexcusably low prices to speculators
and hoarders. Koreover it has provided the Government with
an easy way to avoid taking effective measures to retard
inflation Instead, the Government sells precious national
assets
which could
be put to excellent use in the post-ver
reconstruction
of China.
U. S. Army expenditures in China.

The U. S. Army pays its own way - and at exorbitant

prices - for everything it obtains in China except food and
lodging of U S. troops Nevertheless the Chinese not only
make UB ray heavy taxes but so repeatedly try to get us to
pay for things which are solely for their benefit or for
which they have promised to Day. In the current negotiations
for
the settlement of Army in China during
the last quarter of 1944 the Chinese figure of the amount of
S. Army excenditures for which the Chinese ought to be resburned is about 33 percent more than the U. S. Army figure.

The Chinese follow the practice of padding the bill, terms although of

we have always been most generous to them. Thus in
prices in the United States, the approximately $375 million
which has already been paid to the Chinese Government for
Army expenditu services.
in China obtained
no more can
than $175
condifference
The
be

and

sidered million of an goods American contribution to China in compensation for

the burden placed on the Chinese economy by the presence and

activities of American troops.
Sale by Chinese Government of $200 million of U. S. dollar
lavings certificates nd bonds.

One of the useg which the Chinese have made of the funds
under the $500 million financial aid agreement was

advenced of $100 million of U. S. dollar savings certificates
the
issue of U. S dollar bonds The certificates and
and $100 million much lower rates than prevailed in the black

bonds
sold
at certificates
andtobonds
ob-of
market were
and the
purchasers
of these
one-fifth
tained U. S. do llare at anywhere from one-half these certi-

what they should have paid for then. At present their
ficates and bonds can be sold for more than 15 times
original purchase price. Under the guis of an anti-inflationary

reasure the Government has permitted hoarders, apeculators

"militaristsFor
andexample
"insiders'
to reap illicit fortunes in foreign
from the information available to us,
exchange Is little doubt that persons and organizations intizately
there with Dr T.V. Soong and Dr. Kung have purconnected millions of dollars of these certificates and bonds.

chased the notorious underworld gangster leader, has
Tu Yueh-seng, purchasers while DF. Wei Tao-ming,

been
among Ambasa
the largest United
hasWe
purchased
present
dorStates,
to the
havemore
done
than $100,000 of these U. 3. dollar securities
best to control the use of the proceeds of these secuour rities through the Treasury's Foreign Funds Control administration.

Expenditure of $60 million on bank notes.
Chinese are now requesting that we permit the with-

The million of the $240 million which still remaine

drawn of $60 Treasury under the $500 million financial
on the books of the for the anufacture of bank notes.

aid agreement to be used
from the Chinese,
these bank
According
toreceived
information
useless
are in small denominations which are practically distin-

notes in the present inflationary situe tion. They are only portrait

shed by the fact that they will have on them the
Generalissizo instead of the traditional portrait
of Dr. the Sun Yet-sen. The Chinese, of course, have other funds
ith of which to pay for the manufacture of such bank notes.

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Chinese hold up tin exports to United States
China has been providing the United States with tin, a
such needed strategic commodity. At the request of the Chinere,
the Treasury has allowed payment for the tin to be made in gold.
The Chinese, however, have argued that this gold must be sent
to China in order to maintain tin production and tin exports to
the United States have been allowed to decline. Nevertheless,
the Bank of China admits that it has in China stockpiles of
tin which it is keeping as collateral against an intra-governmental loan made to the Chinese tin procurement agency, the
National Resources Commission. Thus, the Chinese could be

exporting more tin to the United States if they 80 desired.

Requested $16 million Export-Import Bank loan.
The Export-Import Bank has been requested to grant a $16

Government
million loan has
to anearly
private Chinese
cal firm. The Chinese
deposits
of
billion chez
securities, and credit ts on the books of the Treasury which
could be used to finance incorts from the United States of the
kind for which an Export-Import Bank loan is being requested.
Moreover, it is admitted that the roceeds of the Export-Import
Bank loan could hardly be used until after the war. Nevertheless the Chinese Government does all possible to encourage
the Export-Inport Bank to grant immediately this $16 million
credit.
$75 million lend-lease trucking project.
Arrangements are now being carried through for the lendleasing of a large number of trucks to China. Koreover, the
lend-lease funds will be used to pay the salarics of American
personnel who will train Chinese personnel to take over the
driving and maintenance of the trucks. The cost of this project is about $75 million. In addition, the Chinese attempted
to get the United States to pay U. S. dollars for the Chinese
national currency which will be needed to pay the salarie a of
Chinese employed in driving these Chinese trucks and to construct and maintain garages and repair shops for these Chinese
trucks. These local currency needs which the Chinese can meet
merely by printing more bank notes might have cost us up to
$20 or $30 million. The Chinese undertook to meet these local
currency needs only after we took a firm position against
providing U. S. dollars for such purposes.
S.

Government

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Import of textiles into China.
The Chinese have asked the Treasury to support its request for large scale imports of textiles, arguing that they have
will be used for anti-inflationary purposes The Chinese
been told repeatedly of the very tight position of textiles
in the United States. Moreover, they know the urgent need to
conserve transport facilities into China, whether over the
"hump" or on the newly opened Burna road. It is afe to say
that, 08 in the case of gold sales, the anti-inflationary
effects of the sale of such textiles would be very small if
Moreover, the Chinese Government has done very little,
anything, to encourage domestic textile production. Thus,
while one-third of the cotton spindles in Free China have corcensed operations because of a shortage of rew cotton resulting from erroneous government policy End inefficient and
rupt administration large amounts of raw cotton are being
saugi led out of Free Chine into occupied China, Fur thermore,
large quantities of cotton textiles in Free China are being
hoarded, while the Government fails to take effective antihoarding measures.

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the know" at that time. In place of this, Mr. Smith's people
DATE April 20, 1945

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Charles S. Bell

were sent out 8.3 though on an "under-cover" job. Mr. Scott
of Budget called our Mr. Parsons in Procurement to inquire of
him what he knew of the matter, and the Department's Budget

RE: HAROLD SMITH AND THE SURPLUS
PROPERTY TRANSFER

Mr. Smith's participation in this transaction is an
excellent illustration of why the Budget has gone down in
the estimation of certain members of Congress and high
Government officials.

As per your instructions, after making the early negotiaC

tions with the agency heads primarily concerned with this
transfer, I called Director Smith in the afternoon on Tuesday,

April 17, and failing to reach him, left a very complete
story with his secretary and a request that he call me for

further details. (At this time it was indefinite that the
entire Procurement Division would go over to Commerce or

remain in Treasury, and the whole matter was being handled

along very confidential lines.)
Not only did Mr. Smith himself fail to call me, but
what is more, no member of the Budget staff made any effort

to keep abreast of the deal or get accurate information from
me or John Pehle, the only two nen in Treasury actually "in

Officer, Schoeneman, was approached by Mr. Broadbent of

Budget along similar lines. They made no effort to contact

this office.
I learned later from Mr. Gladieux, Secretary Wallace's
assistant, that Mr. Smith talked with Secretary sallace and

urged him not to go through with the transfer. I strongly
suspect that Mr. Smith's objections came, for the most part,

from the fact that he has other ideas as to the location of
the Procurement Division proper and had been given to understand that the Procurement Division would move with Surplus
Property.

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Dear Mr. Minister:

1 wish to thank you for your letter of

April 3rd and for the personal message and
regards you were kind enough to send through
Mr. Adler.
AR you know. the cause of Sino-Aserican
friendship has ever been clone to my heart,
and I as happy to find myself in full agreement with you on the need for maintaining
close financial and economic cooperation and

for strengthening the traditional ties bethat ve shall continue to do all ve can to

tween our two countries. Please rest assured

attain both these objectives.

Sincerely yours.
(Signed) H Morgentnau, 28.

Honorable O. K. Yui,
Minister of Finance,
Chungking, China.

SA/efa 4/18/45

April 3rd, 1945.

Ky dear Er. Normathan,

I nvail my/elf of the
opportunity of Mr. Adder's return to Washington
to extend to you my greetings and deep approoistion of the conperation that you hive kindly
given us.

AS total Allied victory
in drawing near, our task has even proved to be
more difficult and the need for closer collaboretion betteen the United States and Chinn has
become more urgent than ever.

It in - sincere with

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that the traditional friendship between our
countries be further solidified through closer
coononic cooperation and I trust - ann rely
on your good officer toward its attainment.
Yours sincerely,

O. K. Yui

Kinister of Finance

Honorable Henry Korgantheu, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury.
United States Government,

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the ever gave any Important information to Allied intelligence
or disclosed her relations with the Germans.

DATE April 20. 1945
TO

FROM

5) Her recent claims that she participated in the

Secretary Morgentian

Banque Charles to save Mr. Could from deportation is in
direct variance with the explanation which she gave to the

Freak Coe and Orvis A. Schmidt

O.S.S. in October 1944 to the effect that her only interest

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

in the Banque was to create 4 refuge for American money during
the WAP.

As you know in January we designated Florance Could

a Special Blocked National on the basis of her participation, with certain Corman and French interests, in the
establishment of the Dangue Charles for the purpose of
cloaking collaborationist and Gerean assets.

F.C.

We thought you would be interested in the following
secret incelligence information concer ing Mrs. Could which
was recently received from our Encounty at Paris, and which
confirms our suspicions of Mrs. Gould's colleboration with
the Hazis:

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1) Her participation in the Banque Charles was an
outgrowth of her any close and confessed relations during
the occupation with notorious French collaborators and with
Gereans (including the Gestapo), of whose official connections
she was fully suare.
2) There is evidence that the Germans regended her as
an informer to the Gestapo.

3) Ludwig Vogel, engineer of the Fooke=hulf Aircraft
Company, now held as a prisoner in Paris, took Florence Could
to Germany on several occasions under in false name and with-

out identification papers. She WILL permitted to visit an
airopnit factory at Friedrichshn.em.

4) Mrs. could claims that she had social relations with
Germans in order to obtain their protection Agginst being sent
to a concentration crup because of her services to Allied
Intelligence. According to her 01921 admission, however, she
was not in contnot with Allied Intelligence services until
December 1943, where most of her relations with the German
began before that date. Koreover, there is no evidence that

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Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Mr. White

FROM

My wife informs me:

The Bible (Job 31:35) contains this statement:
"Oh, that I had one to hear co. Lo, here 18 my
signature. Let the Almighty answer me. And that
I had that indictment which mine adversary hath
written."

A footnote in our version of the Bible refers
to the fact that the word "indictment" probably
means "book".

Mrs. White believes that the interpretation
of the above phrase 16 something like the follow$

ing:

People know 1 (Job) have been
righteous and 1f my enemies who are

claiming the contrary had written a
book containing their unfair criticisms
I (Job) could display that book and

their unfair criticisms so that the
people would know how unjust those

criticisms were -- or something like
that.

I believe that must have been the phrase to
which the President referred. Though it doesn't
seem to fit well, I suspect it's what the
President had in mind.

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TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM 3. 3. Tuesell

Subject: Prega sminars
Recently the Foreign Funds Centrol people held a half-hour press
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conference dealing with a press release which had been put out for use

Mys. Klots

the following day. The discussion was nearly all unbackground material
rather than as spot neve, but is attructed a number of correspondents

This BABO does NOT require

any immediate attention.

who do not normally visit the Treasury and held their attention.

Novemer, 11 might interest

the Secretary at some early

This led no to believe that there is a field for seminar type con-

date, when be eight have time
hands, either while

on
hisorFlorida.
flying.
is

forevose, oz subjects which of current interest, or approaching the news

Now would it be to put 11

as "any time*

a

material. in his package or how do you handle

stage, but 520 not yet ready for spot nows treatment.
I nanvassed several Treasury people, including White, Masa and Lynch,

things of this natural
34 fussell

and also . few reporters, and found then enthusiastic for the idea. I
also found some Treasury people, outside of those donling with such sub-

jeets, also said they would appreciate as opportunity to hear background
explanations of such subjects as Bretton Woods, taxes, etc.
Mass said his shop would be able to put on immediately a discussion

of Government borrowing -- substantially the sune alida illustrated
Mr. Fussell

lecture baine given Seventh Nar Lean groups - subject to Ted Camble's approval.

White said he believal sane discussions of taxes and of the postsur
European economic situation could be arranged - the latter probably broken
down into a number of discussions.
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Max Mall of AP (incidentally the sartest of the reporters covering
the Treasury) was anthusiastic over the idea and suggested such subjects,
rather more complex and less immediately nowsworthy, as a detailed explanation of the Daily Statement, methods by which public debt was calou
lated, etc.
I think the advantages to the Treasury would be two:

1. Botter press relations.
2. Better informed reporters and consequently better reporting.

: do not imagine that all the reporters would actually be as keen about
the idea as Hall, sto is out to got himself all the education he can, whereever he is working. That they would be stirred, by competition, to pay note
attention, and whatever they learned would be all to the good.

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The conferences would have to be planned aurefully, to svoid impinging
upon spot news fields. It would be my idea to make them all background asfaire, 1ecture-discussiome followed by a question and answer period. It

would probably follow that some questions on policy matters, relating to the
subject discussed in the seminar, would greet you at the next press conference,

but you would be ready for it and the broadening of the field of questions
at your press conference would also be sivantageous, it seens to no.
Now as to how the subject night be brouched:

I suggest that at your next press conference you night say that the idea
of sesinars, on newsworthy subjects, or subjects that will soon be in the
nows, has been suggested to you, and that you would like to see what the re0

porters think about it. If there 10 a favorable response from those present
you night suggest that they contact no with their suggestions as to subjects
they would like covered. Then ** could put one of the seminars on almost

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San Hall of AP (incidentally the soartest of the reporters covering

immediately (Friday at 11 a.m. probably will be the best time) and judge

the Treasury) was enthusiantic over the idea and suggested such subjects,

from the result whether it is worth continuing.

rather more complex and less immediately nowsworthy, as . detailed ex=
planation of the Daily Statement, methods by which public debt was caleulated, etc.
I think the advantages to the Treasury would be two:

1. Totter press relations.
2. Better informed reporters and consequently better reporting.

I do not imagine that all the reporters would actually be as keen about
the idea as Mall, who is out to get himself all the education he can, whereever he is working. But they would be stirred, by competition, to 747 2016
attention. and whatever they learned would be all to the good.

0

The conferences would have to be planned arefully, to avoid impinging
upon spot news fields. It would be my idec to make then all background of

fairs, lacture-discussions followed by = question and unswer period. It
would probably follow that some questions on policy matters, relating to the
subject discussed in the seminar, would greet you at the next press conference,

but you would be ready for it and the broadening of the field of questions
at your press conference would also be advantageous, it a to no.
Now as to how the subject night be brouched:

I suggest that at your next press conference you night say that the idea
of seximars, on newsworthy subjects, or subjects that will soon be in the
news, has been suggested to you, and that you would like to 000 what the re()

porters think about it. If there is . favorable response from those present
you night suggest that they contact no with their suggestions as to subjects
they would like covered. Then we could put one of the seminars on almost

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enfores to
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

4/01/95.

April 20, 1945.
MEMORANDOM FOR THE

SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

After consultation with the President's Secretary in charge of press rela-

tions, it in felt that the President should

not at this time appear in news reels to

advocate the Bretton Woods proposal or any

other single or individuel legislative proposal, especially when such proposal 18
before the Congress for action.
We do wish to be helpful. We know
you are familiar with the statement the
President made attohis
press
conferthefirst
Bretton
Woods

It 18 a

ence proposals. with regard suggested that if

silent motion picture of the President 1.

at his this

made a part of your proposed film and you
would use the sense of the President's
be

question statements might press solved. conference An off-stage

voice could be used for sound when the
President's picture 1e on the screen, and

in this way it would be possible for you to
include the President's endorsement as part
of the motion picture Paramount is to produce for you.

MATTHEW J. CONNELLY

Secretary to the President.

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Secretary's statement before Senator
Pepper's Committee on Small business. Subject:
bretton Woods.

UNDER SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

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April 20. 1945
Statement of Secretary Morgenthau

TOP SECRET

Prosperity for this country 18 essentially a problem

TO THE SECRETARY:

I just received a report through the
War Department of an inventory of the currency
and gold discovered in the salt mine at Merkers,
There was a small amount of Norwegian kroner,
French france, Belgian france, lire, kuna (Croat)
and koruny (Czech). There were also 2,760,000,00
reichmarks. There are about .000 bage (at
about 81 pounde per bag) of gold coin and 4,100
bage (at 55 pounde per bag) of gold bullion.
Considering the gold coin on a straight bullion

basis, the total value is about 8196 million.

of finding markets to match the miraculous producing power

of our factories and farms. We can keep our people gainfully employed at high wages If we can find buyers for

the food and fibers, for the cars and refrigerators, that
we can produce.

Our primary dependence must always be on the home

sur

market. We have in this country the greatest concentration of consuming power in all the world. The 135 million
American people buy most of the world's production of

automobiles, refrigerators, and radios. These are the
goods typical of American production. These are the
goods that are symbolic of the high American standard of

living.
But we must not overlook the importance of foreign
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markets. During the 1920's, one-tenth of our agricultural
and industrial output was sold abroad. Our exports declined
drastically from 1929 to 1932. And even after recovery
had gone quite far, our exports in 1938 were only half
what they had been ten years earlier.
Our exports may seen to be only a small part of our

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apples, 11 percent of our wheat, 11 percent of our lard,

total production. They are, nevertheless, vital. They

and 11 percent of our hope.

mean a good deal in factory payrolls and farm income.

It is clear enough what these exports of industrial

They mean the difference between prosperity and depres-

and farm products mean to business and labor and to

sion for both agriculture and industry.

agriculture throughout the country.

When we think in terms of particular industries and

Your interest in an expansion of foreign trade for

of particular farm products we can see what foreign markets

small business coincides with one of the principal objec-

really mean to business, to labor, and to agriculture.

tives of the program drawn up at the Bratton Woods Con-

I cite examples from only a few industries. In 1938,

ference last summer, and now pending before this Congress.

our exports accounted for 27 percent of our production of

All of the 44 nations participating in that con-

aircraft and parts, 22 percent of our office machinery and

ference recognized that a large volume of foreign trade

appliances, 18 percent of our printing and book-binding

18 essential to the realization of the United Nations'

machinery, 17 percent of our farm machinery and appliances,

hopes for a prosperous and peaceful world. We in this

15 percent of our pharmaceuticals, 14 percent of our in-

country have a special stake in this program since we,

dustrial machinery, 14 percent of our automobiles and

more than most countries, must carry on a large volume

trucks, 12 percent of our radio equipment, and 11 percent

of trade abroad in order to assure full utilization of

of our refined oil products.

our manpower and productive facilities at home.

It is no less true that export markets are essential

In order to achieve these overall objectives--in-

to our agriculture. In 1938, our exports accounted for

creased world trade and capacity production at home--we

30 percent of our production of tobacco, 28 percent of
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must set in motion the machinery to restore to the
devastated countries their producing and consuming

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ness firms should be able to sell abroad as well as at
power and to further the development of greater production

home, particularly If some of the uncertainties can be

and greater consumption in the more backward areas of the

removed from international currency transactions.

world, inhabited by perhaps half the world's population.

But let me repeat, the best market for all types of

We must provide an environment of stable and orderly ex-

small business has always been, and will continue to be,

change practices--free from the currency warfare and the

our own domestic market. In a prosperous America, every

restrictions of the 1930's--in which international trade

year should witness a new crop of promising small entre-

can flourish.

preneurs, and those already established should have ample

In considering the significance of foreign trade to

opportunity to expand.

small business, it will be helpful to divide the subject
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I will not attempt to go into the details and

into two broad segments.

mechanics of the Bretton Woods proposals at this time.

There are industries that will participate only in-

These Agreements are now being considered by the House

directly in an expension of foreign trade. In this group

Committee and will soon be considered by the Senate

are the majority of the service industries, such as

Committee on Banking and Currency. The important thing

laundries, dry cleaners, garages, repair shops, hotels,

for UE to consider at this time is the significance of

and retail outlets of every description. Their well-

the Bretton Woods proposals to American foreign trade

being is linked to foreign trade to the extent that an

in general and to small business in particular.

expanding foreign trade is indispensable to an expand-

The Bretton Woods proposals, by stabilizing rates

ing American economy.

of exchange, by maintaining freedom in exchange trans-

Then, there are industries engaged in manufacturing,
transportation and commerce where small business can

share directly in the increased trade. Our small busi-

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foreign currencies, and encouraging the revival of

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stant yet unpredictable change. Unless the trader had the

private international investment, will go a long way--

means and the ability to hedge, his normal business profits

indeed, farther than we have ever gone before--toward

might be wiped out overnight by fluctuations in exchange

creating an environment in which small business will not

rates.

only prosper, but will help to preserve our democratic

The Bretton Woods proposals, when adopted, will pro-

institutions.

vide all of the essential elements of stability. They

In the past, small business has not played 8

will require all countries to define their currencies in

prominent role in this country's foreign trade, and that
for two principal reasons. First, the small businessman
has not been conscious of the importance of finding

terms of gold, and to maintain their exchange values

stable within one percent of that parity. They will

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also hasten the removal of all artifical barriers

markets abroad. The cost of maintaining a sales force

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against the making of payments across international

for the export market has been too burdensome for the

boundary lines, and encourage a revival and an expansion

small business man. It 18 necessary to find better and

of private international investment for reconstruction

more economical ways of selling abroad the products of

and development purposes.

small business.

once stability of exchange rates is achieved,

The small businessman has always been confronted

American investments abroad will have as their counter-

with the discouraging complexities of fluctuating ex-

part an immediate and direct foreign demand for

change rates. He does not as a rule understand the

American goods. Many of these demands, could be filled

workings of the foreign market, nor is he able to employ
specialists who do. In general, a successful foreign
trader has had to be something of a dealer in foreign
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currencies. This has been necessary because the values

by little business--indeed, must be, if a big increase
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As I have said, inadequate marketing facilities

of course, this doesn't mean that small business 18

have been one factor in reducing the small businessmen's

entirely out of the export market. Some firms have

share in our foreign trade. A large corporation pro-

foreign customers who buy directly from them. Export

ducing automobiles or electrical equipment has an export

houses in this country are on the look-out for

department in this country; it has sales agents abroad;

specialties they can sell abroad. And in some cases,

and it may have a financial department equipped to handle

a group of small business firms cooperate in forming

credit and exchange problems. Such a corporation 18 con-

an export company to handle jointly their various

scious of the fact that the sale of $20 million or $100

products. This practice, in my opinion, should be

million of its output to foreign buyers means the difC

encouraged.

ference between profits and losses in its annual state-

But the fact remains that small business does not

ment of earnings. And it is willing to spend the money

export enough. Partly this is because our aggregate

to get these sales.

foreign trade has been so small. And very largely it

The small businessman is not in so fortunate posi-

is because present export marketing facilities are not

tion. Perhaps he could sell $100,000 worth of his

suited to the needs of small business. This is a

products abroad. But he can't afford to set up an export

problem to which your committee will want to give

department. He couldn't possibly keep agents abroad to

serious consideration.

look for foreign orders. He hasn't the facilities for

While 1 have been primarily concerned in this dis-

granting credit to the customers that come to him. And

cussion with the question of export markets, I want to

he can't overcome the handicap of restrictions and

make clear my view that our imports are an equally

fluctuations of foreign currencies.
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The Bretton Woods program will provide the necessary

are necessary to provide raw materials for our industries,

setting for 8 large expansion in our foreign trade.

fertilizers for our farms, consumer goods for the public.

Small business should share in these new foreign markets.

Without imports, production would be handicapped and our

Your committee will want to explore ways of bringing

standard of living would be lowered.

small producers and foreign buyers together.

We must not forget that imports are part of the
business of being paid for our exports. when countries
stop buying our exports, it is because they haven't
enough dollar exchange. When we import from them, they

get the means to pay for our goods. That is why I
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believe that to secure the greatest benefit from foreign
markets, the level of international trade must be raised
throughout the world.

If I have gone a little beyond the topic that you
expected me to cover, it is because 1 am convinced that

the future welfare of the United States is intimately
associated w1 th the survival and the expansion of small
business. When hostilities cease and war production

tapers off, we must find markets for our greatly increased productive power, we must keep up employment.
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Little business, in my opinion, is one of the most
promising areas for an expansion in post war employment.

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Charles Bell
Secretary Morgenthau

I want you to participate in making the decisions

affecting the transfer of the surplus property program to
Commerce. You know what Cliff Mack will need in order to

run his shop efficiently, and you also know what sort of
commitment we have made to Secretary Wallace.

I want to protect Mack's program, but at the same
time give Wallace an active organization. You can serve
as something of an arbitrator on questions arising among
John Pehle, Cliff Mack, and the Commerce people. Keep me

advised on the personnel and administrative angles.

Damp

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TO Secretary Morgenthau

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TO

Secretary Morgenthau

April 20, 1945

FROM J. W. Pehle

FROM O'Connell
Regarding your memorandum of today on the current

The following 1s a summary of significant developments
in the Surplus Property and Procurement offices for the week

tax drive:

ending March 24, 1945:

1. The Commissioner and I agree that your surrestion for the interchange of weekly reports between the

Surplus Property:

various districts is a splendid one and it will be
placed into effect at once.

2. As to the April 10 rebort from Sanders, Acting
Special Agent in Charge, Atlanta District, which
impressed you unfavorably, our investigation reveals
that this unfavorable impression probably arone from
artless expression rather than from spiritless effort
or lack of cooperation on Mr. Sanders? part. Mr. Sanders
in acting in the place of Mr. Palmer, who is the regular
Special Agent in Charge at Atlanta. Mr. Palmer is of
such outstanding ability, and his district under his
direction reflects such splendid record, that he WILD
detailed to assist Mr. Wool? in the direction of the
entire drive and the coordination of the activities of

the various districts. Since the April 10 report,
Mr. Palmer has visited the Atlanto district, surveyed
activities there, and assisted Mr. Sanders in establishinc the procedure for intensive conduct of the drive.
Mr. Palmer reports that Mr. Sanders is keenly interested
in the drive and is satisfactorily organising his dis-

trict. I believe a reading of the April 16 report of

Mr. Sanders will not reflect the same spirit which
impressed you in the earlier report of April 10.
Mr. Palmer will return from itlanta tomorrow, at which
tine we can get further information.

We continued to work with the Surplus Property Board in
drafting regulations and forms to be issued by the Board to
implement the priorities to Federal, state and local governments envisioned by the Surplus Property Act. Work is
continuing also within our own organization to develop
rograms,procedures and relationships that will facilitate
operations under the Board's proposed regulations.

Instructions were prepared for the regional offices with
respect to the new synchronized spot sales method for the disposal of construction machinery and farm equipment, which will
be put into operation on a nation-wide basis on April 19.
This plan 1s designed to maintain a constant flow of surplus
farm and construction machinery and equipment to the public
through normal trade channels and combines the most desirable
features of the formal bid and auction sales methods. The
plan has the approval of the Surplus Property Board.
The Army Air Forces have indicated that they will request
that we sell 44,000 yards or nylon cloth, heretofore declared
surplus by the Army, to certain firms for use in the manufacture of carburetors for Air Forces.
We have formally requested the Food and Drug Administra-

Oction to cooperate with us in the examination and classification
of surplus pharmaceuticals and medicinals, and similar property,

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in order to facilitate their orderly disposal.

The Attorney General approved, under Section 20 of the
Surplus Property Act, our proposed sale of approximately
23,400,000 Carlisle first-aid dressings. The sale WBS thereupon consummated, the total proceeds thereof exceeding
$220,000. Effective liaison with the Department of Justice
has been established and conferences are being held frequently
in order that we may become acquainted with the Anti-Trust

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We have submitted to the Surplus Property Board the question whether disposal agencies should accept from the War
Department surplus reverse Lend-Lease materials in view of an
arrangement between the United States and the supplying nation,
whereby the proceeds of the sale of such property are to
turned over to the supplying nation.
be

Acts.

Notwithstanding our formal submission of the matter, the
Board has not, as yet, expressed its views with respect to export policy, but in the meantime, work is going forward within
our organization in order that we may have a better understanding of the issues involved.

The Army has declared as surplus 12,000 additional blitz
cans. Approximately 11,000 yards of canvas duck and 1900
mattresses were transferred to the Maritime Commission.

A sales program for cut film and photographic paper is being formulated. Arrangements are being made for our Boston and
Denver regional offices to consult with representatives of farm
cooperatives to ascertain their needs for farm equipment.

Total purchases for the week amounted to $26,889,524.02,
including $26,300,000 for Lend-Lease (schedule attached) and
$589,524.02 for regular purchases.

Work is continuing or the development of a procedure for
the selection of an advertising agency. Progress is being made

in the preparation of a publicity guide to be issued to the
regional offices in order to secure some uniformity in publicity
practices and procedures.
A survey has been made of surplus X-ray equipment on hand.
It appears that only comparatively small amounts of such equipment have as yet been declared and that the demands of insti-

tutes having priorities under the Act will leave no such equipment for commercial sales. The Office of Scientific Research
and Development indicates that it will soon declare a large
number of scientific instruments to us and to the Defense Plant
Corporation, which they would like to see sold to educational
institutions, hospitals and similar organizations. Although the
bulk of this material will be declared to the Defense Plant
Corporation, the office of Scientific Research and Development
is of the view that both groups of property should be sold together and we indicated our willingness to cooperate with the
Defense Plant Corporation in the development of a program for
the sale of such property.

Procurement:

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Unusual requisitions for the week included 14-250 KW turbo
generators with controlling switchgear for Russia: 4,441,800
yards of sheeting for Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia and 20
cranes with swinging boom and spare parts for France.

Unusual purchases for the week included 67,200 pounds of
aluminum covered paper for Russia; 55 Anti-typhus units for
UNBRA and 194,964,348 pounds of GRS synthetic rubber for the
United Kingdom and Russia.

Total Lend-Lease carloadings for the week amounted to
3,595 cars.

The Price Adjustment Board disposed of five 1942, two
1943 and one 1944 cases, recovering excessive profits in the
amount of $165,000.

Work is continuing in the preparation for the hearings on
(The Potomac Electric Power Company's proposed allocations of
rate reduction. The Federal Works Agency, the Department of

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Justice and this office, have agreed upon the strategy to be

TREASURY DEPARTMENT, PROCUREMENT DIVISION

followed.

STATEMENT OF ALLOCATIONS, OBLIGATIONS (PURCHASES) AND
DELIVERIES TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AT U. S. PORTS

At the request of the Bureau of the Mint the Procurement

AS OF MARCH 24, 1945

American Nickeloid Company contract for the manufacture of
war one-cent pieces. The Company has asked that the settle-

ment include an allowance for anticipated profits. If an

agreement is reached, the General Accounting Office will be
consulted before actual payment is made.

Total U.K. Russia China
Allocations

$6020.4 $2628.1 $2457.4 $172.9
(6014.3) (2628.0) (2457.4) (172.9)

Requisitions not

S 115.5 $ 26.0 $ 23.6 $ .4
( 115.1) ( 22.5) ( 42.4) ( .5)

Administration:

Cleared by W.P.D.

The Toledo Medical Depot is expected to be transferred
from the War Department to Treasury on or about April 15, but
not later than may 1.

Requisitions

The overall personnel situation is beginning to show an

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improvement.

We are working with the Bureau of Accounts and the Gen-

oral Accounting Office on plans to simplify certain accounting
forms and procedures with a view toward reducing our operating
costs.

Plans for the transfer of the state of North Carolina from
the Washington region to the Atlanta region have been completed.

in Purchase

obligations
(Purchases)

Deliveries to Foreign
Governments at U. S.

S 140.0 $ 26.7 S 19.0 S 1.1
( 167.7) ( 19.4) ( 27.3) ( 1.6)
$4784.2 $2100.7 $2113.5 $105.2
(4757.9) (2094.5) (2099.3) (105.1)
$3707.2 $1882.9 $1591.6 S 30.4
(3085.5) (1631.1) (1366.3) ( 26.4)

$18.6

$743.4

(18.6)

(737.4)
S 65.5

49.7)
$ 93.2

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(119.4)

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$17.4

$447.4

(17.3)

(441.7)
$202.3

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61.7)

Ports*

Deliveries to foreign governments at U. S. Ports do not include the tonnage that

is either in storage, "in-transit" storage, or in the port area for which actual

receipts have not been received from the foreign governments.

Note: Figures in parentheses are those shown on report of March 17, 1945.
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Administrative Miscellaneous &
Undistributed
Expenses

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THE MORGENTHAU PLAN
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by SAMUEL GRAFTON

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FOREWORD
One again at in Abraham Lincoln's day. the time approaches when , "
necessary for that government of the people, for the people, and by the
dictane peace terms be those who have tried, unsuccessfully, to

. to "perish from the earth."
The phrase, government of the people States . basic much It is for
the people, who constitute the government of the United States, to my

whether Germany shall here had or NET peace We will My . with
ONE HORE we will My . by our accordes by our discussion with our fellow
CRIBITA

This our declaimed will by the new important, not will over have the opportunity to main A WIN decision will delay. if

OCE PROVE another with time As one will surely shorten
the with between the possible close of World War II and the opening of

World War III. poships, eyes, provide the cause for World War It to
contidue indestitutely

Because only an Hiformêd people can make wise decisions, the New

York Post is presenting in this book several plans which have
been Maggested for formulating the peace with Germany

The most commission official plan for dealing with Germany was
amounced 00 September 24, 1941, by Henry Morgentbau Secretary of the
Treasury of the United States Briefly, this plan proposed that Germany to

WHAT KIND
OF PEACE

SHALL WE

convened into prodominantly agricultural country by internationalizing
the Ruhr, bear of her heavy industry. and distributing to other nations, as

MAKE WITH

separations the machinery of her was plants

This plan has been seragely attacked and " warnily defended actual

ing to the point of new on two base questions (1) is this plan likely or
workship to prevent the apid economic rehabilitation of Europe generally,

GERMANY?

and (2) will the slower rate of economic rehabilitation which this plan
would being to the area - known a Germany, help or hinder the recordstation of Europe Quite naturally the author and No supporters believe
the negative side of both of these quotities

by Samuel Graften

Mr. Samuel Guiton, author. and commentation has pre
second in IND separate series of column articles the and interesting and
thought provoking plan offered by any unoficial SOURCE except, perhaps,
the equally controversal Vanuarant plan Mr. Grafton's news have been
gaining net-wider reception in Dirope and Aus. . well at in this country,
because of the simplicate of the course of action be proposes He suggests

that the mod useful attitude toward the German is one of letting them

and years or filly years to this does nite disturbs in any way. the basic
soundness of the idea: because in the meantime, the United Nations will be

in control under activities term
New York Post has recommended very serious consideration for
both the Grafton plan and the Morgenthau plan In IDENT form each can be

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Nets been Signature of Mr. Service
Graham

GIVEN of -

NEW YORK POST
Copyright 1947 by New York Post and Grafton

accept full responsibility for their UW1 future in the working out of peace
plan or action of peace plans acceptable to us Whether is takes the Ger

social (namework of the other

This book originally appeared in certai form in the

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CONTENTS
FOREWORD

INSIDE FRONT COVER

SECTION 1. "What Kind of Peace Shall We Make
with Germany?

PAGE 5

SECTION 2. "What Shall We Do With Germans?" PAGE 13
SECTION 3. "The Margenthan Plan".
by Sylvia F. Parter

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SECTION 4. "New York Post Morgenthau

Plan Editorial

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BIOGRAPHICAL Sketch of Samuel Graften
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What Kind of Peace Shall We Make With Germany?

CHAPTER ONE

We're Fresh Out of Peace Treaties
There is actually no reason why we should sign peace creaty with
Germany for ten fifteen or even twenty years after the defeat of Hitler
Most of the legal and constitutional difficulties burring prompt use of

we sents

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to American me substitute If that then force the Germany the ides of best was prevent to should make long future violate armistice - German this any for that of of aggression the really armistics ends formal simply provisions, not peace evaporate te end it milk

tary force could promptly be brought into play against her No new dec
laration of was would be needed It will be the same was

Let's Let the War Go On
Let the was as legal concept, simply go on indefinitely in the form
of an armistice In would be war which there was no shooting and that
will after all be pleasantes than the last peace which was often inter
rupted by the sound of forearms There - reason why every war must
promptly be followed by formal peace creaty That merely in assump
tion which we have all accepted and swallowed without much examination
A peace treaty is an extermely valuable document to defeated nation
It sets up in business again We gave Germany peace treaty out of hand,
last time; she promptly proceeded to spic upon the bent all her energies

to suite violation of it This time let make her use her might and guile
for generation merely to obtain for herself what she so despised on the
previous occasion

Make Germany Work for Peace
Is effect, let us make Germany. 100 like every other nation on earth,
work for peace Before the long armistice were over. Germany would have
come to value place formal peace as deeply as any nation has ever valued
it. and once she had obtained that long-delayed and precious legal instru

ment, she would cherish with wholly new appreciation of is beauties

What Kind of Peace Shall We Make With Germany?

The long armistice would be self enforcing to considerable measure

CHAPTER TWO

for any German who violated in terms and thereby further postponed the

of peace, would drew upon himself the attention of the

Don't Call It Peace

entire German nation No here be this time but marplet, who prolongs
the WAE.

To German queries as to when we propose to make final peace. our

answer might well be Take your time pal No hurry Make somewhat

The best defenar against future German aggression is simply to continue

better Genmany, and we shall see what we shall see I confess that I relish

the present war. after the shooting ends to continue it in the form of an
indefinite annistice, without concern as to whether it lasts ten, fifeen or

. contain touch of diabelism well as of democracy in whene of things
which would place upon Germany the burden of solving the German

even twenty years.

The Long Armistice
A long ammistice, in place of formal peace treaty, would profoundly
alter the dynamics of the relationship between Germany and the rest of the
world. There could be no German revisionist movement because there
would be nothing to revise; Germany could heedly beg for peace treaty.
and drounce a at the same time Instead of Germany trying to see how
for she could go without provoking . declaration of war, we would have
Germany trying to discover what the must do to end the war

Meanwhile the Allies would remain in truth, Allies, for Germany's
unconditional surrender would merely mean the end of shooting not the
end of the war. The war would continue in the form of as amistics That
point of fact, is what actually happened last time, only we did DOE know
is was an armistice This time we would know, and we would realistically
call it that. This was would end only when Germany had at last evolved
which was it to make peace, and could be trusted to make peace And can it
really end before that day?

It seems fairly clear that we must throw out of our current thinking the

perspective of . formal and final peace treaty with the Gennas nation:
discussion of such treaty is like discussion of marriage contract with
boy who has still to be been, to go to school, and to grow up

Shooting Stops, but War Goes On
The concept of permanent armistics merely parts into legal form what
has been the actual fact of the relationship between Germany and the rest
of the world for the last thirty years For nine of those thirty years or almost
third of the period, Germany has been engaged in active shooting war
with most of the rest of the world For six additional years, 1933 to 1999.
she has manifested . malignant and unconcedent hostility toward other
nations For diftern of these thirty years, therefore, the relationship between
Germany and the world has been and of war or incipient war The proposal

for permanent armistice is proposal that we stop calling such state of
affairs peace and that we call it what

The thought is that the best we have to offer Germany is as armistice,

until new Germany arises with which the world can safely conclude .
formal peace The answer to the threat that Germany may immediately
begin to plan new war is that we will not let her out of this one The
shooting stops, but the was

Under such an arrangement Germany would not be indined to make

little experiments in hostility. see how for the could go without provok
ing declaration of war. for the existing declarations of war would remain
in effect. and German violations would be put down as routine by Allied
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The Permanent Armistice
The purpose of this procedure would be to allow time for the emer-

CHAPTER THREE

gence of Germany which shall be thoroughly sick of war, and anxiously
desirous of stable place When such Germany does arise. the signing of .

Let Us Wait for the Facts

formal peace treaty with her will then be only reduction to writing of .
satisfactory state of affairs already achieved; instead of the expression of .

plous hope The time for formal peace treaty would arrive naturally, in
due course, and when it came, the creaty itself would be mese formality,

rather than an hyderical pricei, whipping together of gadgets and

incantation

Germany has patiently taught the world that its normal relationship

is of the The policy of permanent armistice would be a
sign that we have learned and accept it It can be an amiable

The proposal for long armistics with Germany. rather than . peace
treaty, an armistice of even ten, fifteen or twenty years duration, would
allow for certain wholesome flexibility in the world' relationship with
Germany We could make an initial attempt to set sound economic
base for the German nation; if that failed we could revise the plan or

adopt another without the besildered evful feeling that the secred

terms of sacred treaty had had been
failure

if Germany proves amiable But the continued existence of .
formal state of was would leach Germany that peace - be worked for:

No More Midnight Inspirations

that Germany cannot hope, continually and automatically, to receive peace,
each time, as reward for having waged war

ment, and in of the facts, to all problems But once the formal

The great question in German politics will then be how to get out of
the war, how to transform the long armistice into peace; and it will be .
salutary change to compel Germans to debate the question of how to make

. peace, rather than how to break one We may then legitimately hope that
the new heroes of German politics will be mm who will come forward with
plans for general reconciliation with the world
It will be seen that this approach is profoundly democratic, in that it
actually leaves the question of Germany future to the Germans And who

will say that generation of formal declared war with real peace at its
end will not be wholesomes for than our previous experience with genera
tion of false peace, and war at its end?

treaty is written, it becomes our only basket, and all our Age are in it: .

develops mystic value of and have to defend a even after we
have lost considence in it

A treaty the basic law of the land but it it a form of law not subject
to amendment except by such hysterical processes as led to the grudging
Dawes and Young plan revisions of last time The policy of AD indefinite
armistics would give the world time to make several tries at the economic

re-establishment of Germany when finally condition of stability had

been reached the writing of treaty would be merely the making of
. transcription from reality Whatever plan had proved practical would
become the basic plan of the final, formal
The

policy

of

Through War to Peace

The wont of formal peace treaty is that it attempts without experi-

long

several

alternate

"peace plan, if necessary and committing
outselves priori, and forever, of same servous and haggard conference

Call Is an Armistice
We have been frightening ourselves for years with our own talk about

the borrid danger of "losing the peace" but made most of these
difficulties for ourselves, by setting up the doctrine that we must have .

formal treaty at the outset that have only one chance to make good

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peace if we continue the war. in the Icen of an arnistics of unlimited

CHAPTER FOUR

duration

The policy of long armistice would keep us, here in America, on our
to maintain the peace; it would not have the effect of lalling us into
that long sleep into which formal peace creaties have way of waiting our

Peace First, and Then the Treaty

unimaginative and idealistic republic I use the word "idealistic" in in
wont meaning of course to express our wonderful faith in formalities and
gudgets and is the surface appearances of things

A formal peace treaty would be the isolationists one-way ticket out of
Europe, not the beginning of . chapter of international collaboration but
the end of one

We do tell ourselves that, even after the peace treaty, we shall have to
watch Germany closely. we shall have to keep her from building munitions
of war we shall have to supervise her international conduct and condencies
This necessity for close supervision these dark stigmata of suspicion and
distrust, are not the characteristics of peace, they are the characteristics of
- armistice Let us call it an armistice We shall be more likely to do what
we should if we call things what they are

Let U. Wait for the Facts

The policy of long armistics with Germany, an armistice of decades
if necessary rather than formal peace treaty. would compel both sides to
approach the postwar problem with heightened sense of realism There
are certainly men in Germany today who are only waiting for the peace
treaty to be written, to that they can make political livings for themselves
forever after by denouncing a We do not know the names of this new cast
of characters but that they will appear is certain; give them . formal final

peace treaty, and you give them cheers, criters of revisionism and
denunciation

The Next German Hero

Thus though the shooting stops, the was continues, and as against

Surely we know enough about the easy demagogy of revisionist politics
to be certain that the first Genthese who denounces the new totally, the

junkerdom's restless passion for planning the next war. le us oppose
democratic stubborness in refusing to terminate this one If DEW Hitler

morning after it is written will become national here
To present the Germans with blank instead to offer them only the

should appear in Germany, be could be handled as routine by Allied field

barren nothingness of . permanent armistice an empty space which they
must 611 in with their own ideas, if they have any, is the only procedure
which can compel the Germans to come to grips with the ultimate question
of their relationship with the world
Venailles made it rather 100 easy for the sinister figures in German

without need for a special blessing by Senator Burton K
Wheeler Contractives, if, under these pressures, Germany emerges in .
comparatively short time which can be trusted to keep the peace, we can
shorten these perspectives

But let - wait, this time for the facts Though that should take twenty
years, . would not be 100 long Let - move into the house of peace when

the house is built and tested: in - not, as last time make magper's new
for outselves among the bluepeints

politics they did not have to try to solve Germany's problems, in was enough
to be against Versailles, and to shoct in the streets those Germans who had
found themselves compelled to sign

A Winter Among the Commas
We must proceed this time under . schedule of operations which
makes the formal peace totaly remote objective, to be achieved only after

Germany shall have thrust forward men and movements is to make .
treaty so that when treaty-time finally comes, the entire German nation will
be eager for it. and so that the unknown German statesmin of the future

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who finally succeeds in establishing . treaty relationship with the rest of
the world will be the true German national hero, one for whom the Ger-

mans will build statues and after whom they will name starts
We have our own supply of Congressional demagogues, 100, who have
long promised themselves . party when the peace treaty is presented to
them . wonderful winter of revelry smid the commas and semicolons
There are Americans, 200 who will find it pleasantes and easier to base
their careers on attacking . document rather than on solving the problems
of the real world
The policy of . more-or less permanent armistice, instead during which

we CAN actually try out our peace plans for Germany rather than risk

WHAT

everything on writing one plan in advance like . prophecy. will enforce .

SHALL WE

higher realism upon such men

Peace First, and Then the Treaty
We can thus gain experience in living with successive German gov
emptime and movements, and, when, finally, . condition of stability has
been attained that will be the peace It will only be necessary to write down
on paper what has been proved in practice The policy of the long armistice
would permit us to avoid unchair philosophizing . peion reasoning and
also, meaningless harshness toward the conquered; it would enable us to
draw . line between punishment and reconstruction handling each sep
stately. and avoiding the messed and agicated tangle of the two which

DO WITH
GERMANS?

by Samuel Graften

customarily makes up peace treaty.
Let us not, this time, cry "Peace" Peace!" until we know we have peace

This time let there be peace first, and then the treaty, rather than the treaty
int, and then the war

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CHAPTER ONE

The Final Battle of The War
It sects to me we are going to rus into serious trouble if we on
war to rid the world of exis

us until the
the motive Somersen

What "trials" A spirit will after keep of the revenge? going But revenge job done? leaders (as great and Maugham depend small

once brilliantly pointed out) is to anachronism in western life The Just
for revenge is no longe respectable emotion among our writers haven's

dared use ins motive in fiction or drama for decades The last great
revenge play was Hamlet, and it took Hamley five acts to make up his
mind and then be bungled it

Must We Have Triale?
Louis Niger's book, What to Do With Germany, proposes trials of
axis leaders and axis criminals; and yet the most persuasive section of this

fine book that which shows how completely we failed go through with
our proposed trials after the last was Mr Nizer

system judges this time even
on for the

to lide into legalistic about the

of These are arguments about the form of things We

they draws axis We be the line at of war executed have courts leaders tendency out and depending hand, " trials condition the of 5,000 arguments the be armistice outlines top sound Nazis more legal He asks scholar, eficient "trials" that

must not forget the content of out problem more important than the form

The content of our problem that we must break the political power of

the axis leaders and sublenders forever

Make It War Aim
Our problem s not to try them, not to judge them but to smash them;

to smath them " condition of our own survival now and after the war
The very concept of trial shows that we suspend judgment Or, if we do

non suspend judgment we are insincese in talking of trials for trist is a
suspension of judgement 1 do not ware to ane the leading elements in ***

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countries tried as criminals; : want to see them destroyed a enemies
Their destruction, political or physical (eicher will do). should not be

CHAPTER TWO

. separate, post was issue; it should be encompassed as an act of war, as
part of the war, as . condition of bringing the was to an end
I don't know whether we are entitled to sit in judgment on our fellow

How To Lose In The Last Round

creatures or and but do know we are entitled to fight our mortal enemies

The permanent exile, or imprisonment of at least 100,000 members of
the leading ciacles in Germany. and equivalent numbers in Japan and Italy,
should be one of our was sims, an unchangeable was aim, not subject 00
trial This would be clean and honest act of war. in line with the morality
of war. which is the destruction of the enemy by force

If we set up system of courts to try axis was leaders great and small,
these leaders will, of course, become prisoners immediately the armistice

begins They will be subject to the mercies of these courts But they will
also be entitled to the protection of these courts

Oddly enough therefore the first administrative result of any system
of "trials" for exis leaders will be to SAVE their lives Our courts, however

constituted will have to insist that their dignity and orderly routine be

The War's Last Battle
This would seem to me far more honest than to try to invent courts, and
to write statutes after the offenses complained of In line with this view,

I do not care whether Hitler is considered . criminal or not know be is .
military objective

These exiles should be ordered as . simple act of military government
the removal of dangerous persons A guard should be set up over them,
wherever they are M No doubt many Poles for instance, would be will-

ing to establish such uniformed guard as so honorary life-time service
We should dismantle the fascist political apparatus as unemotionally and
as automatically a we propose to dismantle the fascist armies and war

respected Revolution against fascists will become concempt of court

The Day Will Pass
There is no way out of this dilemma if we insist upon "trials" for the
one hundred thousand or so leading members of the Nazi apparatus Our
soldiers, storming into Germany for the destruction of fascium, will find

thrust upon them the final ironic function of becoming . police squad to
protect the fasciat leaders from harm
We know that moments of deep popular excitement when the politi
cal imaginations of men ACE really stirred when they are really ready to
make fundamental changes, ACC rate and brief perhaps day in century

plants There seems to - no room or need for trial procedure in any of

A system of "trials" for exis leaders will make revolution illegal on the

these areas

only day on which in could possibly happen The moment will pass. The
cold routine of ordinary Mondays and Thursdays will succeed The passage
of year will SAVE half of the one hundred thousand leading Nazis from

Perhaps the Germans themselves, knowing this to be one of our was
aims might oblige as by rising and disposing of the 100,000 before we

arrived Well and good, those Germans who did our work would show
themselves to be on our side But this job must be done, either as in act of
revolution or an act of war, as part of the war. as that which gives meaning
to the war This will be is effect, the final battle of the war, and we cannot

punishment the passage of two years will save almost all of them
The very essence of the "trial" plan is its postponement of the critical
decision: and every criminal lawyer knows the mormous value of postpanement

separate it from the was without losing it

There Is a Compromise
The only possible compromise therefore, between our own desire for
order, and the desire of the plain people of Europe to be rid of their fascists,

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is the immediate and permanent exile of 100,000 members of the
leading circles Germany one of out war aims; an NC of war. part of
the condition for beinging the was to an end.
In may be asked why suggest instant and automatic exile, instead of
trial and potential death sentences That is because am not impressed by

our ravings and funnings I do not believe we ever shall. or even can
methodically kill 100,000 human beings in time of peace ask that we
stick to the possible and do it. rather than reach for the impossible
and fail

ask that or dismantle fascian systematically by socially tolerable
and socially permissible means rather than give ounselves the luxury of
dreaming up all memor of horrid, violent ends for fascism only to come

out of our own emotional stew purged and ready to let in pass
without really doing anything

An Inseparable Part of the War
, know that the fascists of Germany will be much more horrified by .

proposal for cool and arthodical exile, as . condition of the armistice,
than by all the Headthing demands for "trials, "justice," the gallows, etc

The military governor of an occupied ares is entitled summarily to
remove dangerous persons from regional under his control and who will
say the trial is necessary to establish that known fascist functionary is
dangerous person A mere act of identification will suffice

I also suggest that time will pass for U. 100 while it passes for the
people of Europe - the spectacular "trials" of the fascists are assited
There will be demands here for in end to occupation for bringing the
boys back home Time will sharpen our desire to get out of the mess by any
means at all, preferably an easy one We can avoid this danger only by
making the destruction of the fascist system the final battle of the wat an
inseparable part of the war

CHAPTER THREE

Only History Can Teach The Germans
If were asked to become . teacher in the German schools after the

war, would insist on using "Mein Kamef as textbook would make
the little Germans is my class memorize the entire volume page by page.

I know they would hate me as foreign teacher imposed upon them by
force, and to would try to make them hate "Mein Kampf, too would
make them sick of it. as well as of me

I exaggerate I spoof, yet this seems to me of least as practical as any
other scheme for "educating the Germans I have come across Who are
the golden minds among in screne poised with all problems solved ready
to do the educating Shall we tell the Germany how capital and labor ought
to deal with each other) But we are still in the process of solving that one
for ourselves We haven't found an answer for home use yes, let alone for
export

No Answers for Export
We are still in great frightful tage with each other over so old an
American problem as re-federal relationships yet many of - do not
doubt that we ARE quite ready to go across and tell the Germann how to live

What shall we teach the Germane about "democracy" Shall we teach them
to believe is collective bargaining and the closed shop? But our own minds

are not VIS on these and ent can imagine the Congressional
uproar that would follow any attempt to indoctrinate Germany
Shall we teach the Germany that every men and woman ought to be

allowed to vote, or that there should be system of poll-taxes? Either
choice will lead to frantic argument back here at home The German
pupils will litera while their American teachers quarrel

Let's Stick to the Possible
Once again I at that in our approach to the Germans, we stick to the
possible, and realize it rather than reach for the impossible and fail

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A of life does not start in the schools schools merely reflect

CHAPTER FOUR

of life already exists We Americans are not democratic
have democratic schools we have democratic schools because

The "Hard" Way or The "Soft"

democratic Schools sum up the answers which society has reached

But society must first reach the answers, of and by itset.
Let us start with the question of whether we are at war with the German

We are already putting the Germans through one important educational

experience is beating them We are already teaching them great lesson

the lesson of the failure of fascium That is truly how society learns I

people or only with their leaders The question answers itself. We are at
was with whomever is at war with US Thus if limtle German jungfree is

suggest that is our approach to the German people, we build od this begin-

stuffing machinegun belts for Hitler, we are at war with her, eyes if she is

sing suggest that we address the German people in the following terms
Germans! We ADT going to exile many thousands of your leaders We

only 17, ever if she is as cute as apple pie and ever if the has DEVEL had

are going to occupy Germany We ATE going to dissolve your state; you are

political idea in her life
I go further There may be German worker, polishing artillery shells

not to have army. savy. munitions factories or foreign policy. As for the

who secretly hates fascism: who in his heart of hearts loves democracy and

ml we my this 00 you

pays every night for Hitler's downfall. Are we at was with him? The
answer is obviously yes This is not . Chekhow was We are not interested

They Must Solve U.
We do not love you, we do DOB hate you. You are caught in certain
historical predicament Very well, then, get out of it, as best you can It is
not our problem It is your problem Try to solve your problem We promise you nothing Run your schools as you please If you pick unsuitable

teachers very well, you will pay the penalty the occupation will be
prolenged

"It is your problem we CASSOC solve in for you we do not intend to
try Your past mistakes have placed you in predicament, out of which it
so happens, you CHI emerge only by convincing us and persuading us that

you can be trusted You are not our problem for we intend to make ourselves safe against you whatever happens But we are your problem You
must solve us.

"Very well then solve us It is you who must - the hard ques
tions, not we le is matter of indifference to us whether you succeed in
answering them. or not It is up to you whether you care to face the ulti-

rates at last and whether you care to think your way through your

in people's secret thoughts, but in the work of their hands If their hands
help Hicler they are our enemies, though their hearts be breaking

Shall We Be Soft or Hard?
Now, it has been suggested that . "soft" attitude toward the Germans
may encourage them to make . revolution that it, if we promise to feed
them after the war to let them nm their own affairs if we guarantee their
independence they may be stirred to an uprising This is the "beit" theory,
which holds that revolutions are obtained the way mice are trapped with
bit of cheese Actually, the "wit" attitude only relieves the pressure on the
German people

If we are going to be amiable anyway. after our victory, then the Germans may safely continue to brood about life and polish artillery shells
Oddly enough the mechanical adoption of "hard" attitude has much
the same effect. If conditions are going to be intolerable after the war, if
we are going to kill, sterilize partition, enc. then again there is no reason
for the Germans to act If the matter is out of their hands, then is is our of
their hands, and that . that

predicament."

Let the Germane Solve It
All our specific plans therefore from partitioning Germany to teach

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CHAPTER FIVE

ing in the German schools, an little silly, because they relieve the German

people of the necessity of making choice If it doesn't matter what they

Not "Hard" Not "Soft," But Democratic

do then it doesn't matter what they do and there is no need for them to
do anything

Our planning hard, soft and medium rare, merely cashions the Getmans against reality and encourages them in their inertness We are forever

"filling in the future for the Germans We beenk our heads over such

Our attitude toward the Gentans should not be that we propose to
selve their problems but that we have no solutions and intend to leave
them unsolved

qualitions Are three any good Germans? Are the Germans sick people)

This may seem heartless but it is also honest For in actual fact we

Are they incurable? Can they be e-decated? Who shall teach in their

have no solutions We have solution only for our own problem, which is

schools?"

to smath the fascie power Our solution of our own problem will sects

No Way to Teach
But it is the Germans who must be made to break their brads over
these questions It is precisely by attaining against these problems by

sarily leave all manner of loose ends dangling Where shall Germany sell
her goods? Who shall num whatever governing functions we leave to the
Germans? Who shall teach in the German schools) It stems like formless
and uncomfortable future for Germany. . is prickly with questions

struggling with them that the Germans will re-educate themselves if at

But we are not in the tying-up-loose-er business we are in the

all We cannot reform the Germans by answering these questions for them
any more than we can teach child algebta by doing in problems for it
So our fine - is solving the German problem is to make the German

smole fascism business Let us say frankly that we know the answer only
to our own problem which is to make ourselves safe

people face . to give them sense of the blankness of their own futures

reality facing ultimate responsibility for their own futures; this should be

to convince them that their futures are not "filled in.' but empty, beyond
the merest police surveillance that if they want something more than that

our attitude our only attitude toward them For there is no educational

they had better. in their loneliness and faced by our indifference go to

them to 611 in for themselves the empty spaces of the unknown future that

To leave the Germans thus naked on the side of the moon, facing

process we could devise for them which would be half an rich as to compel

work on the problem

paper before them

What should our 'attitude be toward the mass of the German people

If we HE up complicated plan for the Germans complete down to

It should be that we have be attitude If they want - to distinguish good
Germane from had Germans, they had better and some way of establishing
the distinction themselves

democratic indoctrination in the kindergartens, then we give the Germans

something to fight we give them it effect rallying point we give them
slogans The new German leaders will then not have to have plans of their
over it will be enough to be against our plan. For this and other reasons
I would give the Germans no plan at all, beyond the metest police surveil-

lance would give them round ripe nothing and bid them fill in
Perhaps, under these challenging pressures it will occur to them that
they had better convince or that there are two kinds of Germans, "good'

and "bed." If so it their problem to make us believe that to is not up to
- to disentangle one kind of German from another in is up-to the Germana

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to disentangle themselves, possibly by making . revolution before the
ends

not the United Nations job - solve all German problems: it is up
the Germans to solve the United Nations problem
Let us say the war ends, and they have made no revolution Very well,

CHAPTER SIX

The Danger of The Unfinished War

we continue our same challenging attitude (It 000 of its merits that it is
equally serviceable for war or peace.) We occupy Germany, concentrating
on our military safety That is our problem and we will solve it. The Ger-

During war we think of the top German fascists - deadly ecenties who
must be destroyed What reason if any. exists for changing this attitude

mens will have shown certain incapacity by not removing their OWN top
fascial leadership We accept this German demonstration of incapacity We
diseive German state organs, and we police the German nation

the moment peace arrives?

No. not the German nation for it is no longer nation we police the

German land If the Germans nation, it happ then to invest one
What about foreign trade? What about schools? If these questions
pinch, le the Germans meet. let them talk, let them sit in their rooms and
stare at reality, let them make offers It is not up to us to specify the side
of the postage stamps in Utopia It is for the Germany to grapple with the

Must we. on that day, stop thinking of German fascists as deadly
enemies to be destroyed and begin to think of them only as criminals to

be tried? On perhaps not even as criminals but only as indicted men,
presumed innocent until proven guilty?
The only difference the coming of the semistice should make is that it
ought to give US the right to substitute methods of peace for methods of
was in carrying out our policy. But our policy must remain the same, the
destruction of the fascist power

future, if they wast future Should they choose to play silly games, to
flaunt nationalist flags, P they did last time we shall take appropriate

No Solution Short of Exile

measures to prove to them that exercises are not solving their problem
We do net know whether the Germans can find solutions But let us be
honest We de not know whether we can find them, either If our attitude
forces the Germany to realize the meaningfulness of their actions or BOS
action now and after the wat, we shall have made . contribution we shall

without trial of say. the 100,000 top Nazi functionaries That alone can

have forced the Germane back into community of mm seeking their way

policy should be continuing policy, equally valid for war and peace The

It will be - that this approach is neither "hard" nor "soft." In is
perfoundly democratic, in the sense that it conorder that what people do is

important that their decisions and actions really matter We avoid the
absurd postulate that we know the answers

That is why see no solution short of the instant and automatic exile,
be the logical edimination of the wat to be carried out as the final battle
of the WAT

The great danger is that we may and 00 make the sharp differentiation

between the period of wat and the period of peace Our high political
chief difference between was and peace should be the difference is methods

used for carrying out our policy. Naturally, methods change when the
armistice arrives. but policy itself need not change and should not change

Why Let It Become Another War?
It will be strange and wavering conduct on out part to fight desperate
was for the purpose of destroying fascism, and then the moment we win
the war change over to another purpose entirely, that of putting fascists
on trial for horrible condemnable, but sill only collateral offenses called

strocities But the most strocious fascists have probably committed no
physical strocities

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How then shall we handle Julium Streicher publishes of the infamour

and pornographic "Der Stuermer." which has poisoned the mind of .
generation Under the blearily legalistic "trial" system the went we could

probably do to Streiches would be to deny him second class mailing
privileges

The proposal that we stage "trials," no matter how well meaning is
proposal that we shall not do what we are at was to do the moment .
becomes possible do it

Let - keep our sights up. This DOE war about attocities though
atrocities have been committed during the war. not war about the
Hague Conventions though the Hague Conventions have been violated

It war about fascism If the coming of the armistice changes our pur
pose then it will not be an amistice, bu subtle and concealed defeat

They Will See the Trains Leave
Let - keep our sights up: It is our job to dismantle the Nazi Party unemotionally and methodically as we propose to dismantle Nazi arms

factories

THE

MORGENTHAU
PLAN

This our task, by methods of was x long as the German prefer war,
by methods of peace when they tire of fighting The task remains through
war and peace We are liberators not judges We are liberators not school

teachers for the children of Germany We are liberators and unless we
liberate, unless we physically remove the fascist bureaucracy to place of
exile all our schemes for democratic schools and democratic erolley can
and democratic perridge for the new Germany will be window drewing to
hide failure

But it we do remove the fascist bureaucracy without trial, on mero

these subordinate more

not seem so hand then German

does not work will that

children manageable identification that It fascium then will all nearly They problems actually instantly teach have become learned the

lesson before they come to school They will have seen the trains leave
carrying the fascists and fascism to the border and oblivion

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CHAPTER ONE

Why They Fight The Morgenthau Plan
Powerful forces both in the U $ and Britain are inspiring the opposition to the 10-called Morgentheu plan for reducing postwar Germany to a
predominantly agricultural nation- for the simple reason that they ware

: strong industrial Germany to offset the "threat" of strong industrial

Russia

And although these groups in both countries are making as intense

effort to ridicule the proposal and have aboved aside grotesque and
impracticable, informed Washington sources revealed today that the
Treasury's scheme "will very much alive

workend

has not been repudiated by the President as was reported this PAN

The Men Against It
On the contrary there's . good chance that at least the main outlines
of the Morgenthau plan will form the basis of our official policy toward

Germany

The may behind the for garbied leaks on the Treasury's proposal and
the suspiciously sudden storm of opposition which followed reaches deep
into the paths of power politics
In's not just question of an inter cabinet argument on the best method
to make sure Germany will be unable to wage another was in 15 or 23
years

Involved are the groups here and in England who few Runia

Once this key point international politics is recognized the pre
mature
disclosure of the Treasury plan, which imperilled - position, and
violence
the

the

criticians

explained

of

The misleading stories about the Moegenthas plan published to date

have almost obliterated the fundamental issue involved

This as authoritative sources put it, is one of viewpoint
(1) Shall we restore Germany to fell industrial strength as soon as
possible that there shall be balance of power in Europe and try to cut
the risk of was by maintaining controls over strategic industries)

(2) Or shall we turn Germany the direction of in agricultural
economy and make another German was extremely difficult if not
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The dominant groups in British government and industrial circles
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CHAPTER TWO

viewpoint

Rassis stand has not been disclosed officially, but reported she
definitely will high any plan for rebuilding Germany on the same industrial

Rebuild Europe Without a Strong Heich

basis

Here the split involves the Treasury Dept on one side and subordinate
groups the War Dept and State Dept on the other

No matter how rigid we make ONE industrial inspection of Germany in

the first postwas era, all sense warns that 10.15 cr years,

Secretary Hull believed much more favorable to the Morgen

than plan than his subordinates led by James Dunn.
subordinates led by Foreign Minister Eden

our bitterness will die down and the initial Allied controls will be chipped
away-which is basic reason for Secretary Morgenthes's insistence that
Germany' industrial might be slashed to a minimum from the beginning
The no-called Morgenthau plan starts out with the one fundamental

Facts About the Morgenthau Plan

objective directing Germany's economy after the was that she never

Churchill s aid to lean somewh more toward the scheme than his

theraton

world

peace

warmaking ind astries Then long range inspection systems outside
controls

tion tariff barriers and creation of a customs union The north and south

won't

Other schemes for dealing with Germany also may have that as prime
goal but they aim too maintaining the balance of power in Europe and

would divided and barriers

(2) All armament industries and potential was essential plants would
be eliminated and stripped Machinery from heavy industry factories would

at creating powerful Germany offset the "theret powerful Rossia,

This the plans worked out by subordinate the War and State

removed and given to devastated nations

Depts. stress the need for returning Germany to strong industrial position

(3) There would cash stations, therefore
(4) The Ruhe Valley would be internationalized and operated by

three-power commission The Ruhr coal mines would be shut down

as joor possible

Basic Differences

temporarily

(1) Imports of capital into Germany would be controlled and
mitted only for the purpose of developing agriculture or light civilian

able

be

Thus, the proposals emphasize the need for turning Germany into .
predominas als apticultura nation, for permanently eliminating potential

(1) Germans would divided into two major parts, the north and
the south and each would function separate unit." The south would
be tied with Austria and be made self officient whole through elimina

be

will

again

Here for the fee time, are accurate details of the Treasury's proposal

.
per

Although this may be over simplification it highlights fundemental
difference

industries

viewpoint

And Treasury experts see the argument the Morgenthau approach

(6) The Sear, major industrial area would go to France Party of

rather than the other the realistic one "The idea that we can maintain

(7) The big German estable would cut into small farms

controls indeantely over developing industrial state naive, 005

Silmia East Prussia would Poland

authority

This is the long-range economic policy

remarked

The danger of another was will not be in the next 10 years when we

may have strong controls will come after that, when we have helped
rebuild Germany and when, - the natural COUCH of things, our inspection
system will be less complete

Reich Importance "Myth"
One of the hurshest criticisms of the Morgentheu plan has been that it
would undermine the economy not only of Germany but also of all Europe

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CHAPTER THREE

supplies and for purchasing power.

This informed Washington sources said today. "is . myth which has
been carefully nutured by the Nazis.
The dismemberment of Germany's heavy industrial plant and its trans
for to nearby lands devastated by the Nazie admittedly would lower the

Wouldn't Uproot 30 Million Germans
The persistent report that the Treasury's plan for turning postwar

standard of living in Germany but at the same time, . would help raise
the standards of other countries

Germany into . predominantly agricultural nation would necessitable the

Belgium, Holland France, Poland Caechaslovakia for instance, would

benefit tremendously from the receipt of new industries The machinery
and factories would give employment to millions would swell payrolls

deportation or emigration of 10,000,000 Germany in plain, downeight
poppycock and there's not . line in the so-called Morgenthau plan that
even suggests this revolutionary move

No informed source gives this "scare number" the slightest credence .

and create desperately needed buying power

Instead of going to Germany for industrial supplies these nations

check disclosed today

It originated out of the first, garbled leaks on the Morgenthau per

would find them within their own borders

posals And its constant repetition by presurrably responsible columniats
is imperilling the whole public debite on what to do with Germany after

Not a Needed Market

the war.

As for Germany as an essential buying market, that too cannot be

Here's the true story on that nymer and on the German unemployment

backed up by fact In 1938, for example when Germany was buying large
amounts of goods from other Europein nations to prepare for war, the was
not of vital importance to any country

situation after the war.

Only , per cent of the United Kingdom's exports, only 7 per cent of
France's sales were to Germany Not one country - more than 15 per

back to 1870

cent of its exports to this nation
To be even more malistic about it, Germany won't have much money
to buy goods after this war, unless we turn right around and hand it over
her.

A Higher European Standard
For . while at lease the Treasury's plan foresees . lower standard of
living for the Germans but they would not starve by any means Germany

During the early, were conferences on the Morgenthau plan, one of
Secretary Stimoo's off hand comments was that it would turn the clock
At that time, be continued Germany's population was roughly 40,000,
000 compared with in estimated 70,000,000 after this war
And what would happen, he asked to "the extra 30,000,000
His question was answered in detail by Treasury experts, who pointed
out that Germany even now was virtually self-sufficient in most foods, that
the would be more 10 when her population concentrated on agriculture,
and that, therefore there would be se need for largescale emigration
Stimson is said to have accepted the answer But out of his first remark
grew an unerly baseless number.

even now is . great agricultural country, virtually self-sufficient in dairy
products, meat, grain, etc.

be

What's more, Treasury officials - nothing wrong with . lower stand
and for the Germans They asked for it," was the comment of one source.

Simultaneously, though, the proposal sims at . more industrially

balanced Continent

What's more an examination of the facts indicates unemployment will
substantially smaller than advocates of . "soft peace" say.
For instance, 8,000,000 to 9,000,000 foreign workers now in the Reich
will return to their homelands as soon as possible

by the war's end if is estimated that 5,000,000 to 6,000,000 Germans
will have been killed or seriously wounded
Another 1,000,000 to 3,000,000 German prisoners of the Ressians
probably will be kept in Russia to help Soviet cities

The accounts for from 14,000,000 to 18,000,000 Germans And in

addition, millions will find jobs rebuilding their homes
"Of course, Germany will have an unemployment problem during the

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initial transition period." informed sources state "for millions will be

demobilized will be released from asmament plants
But the major point that as agricultural Germany can support

New York Post Editorial on

its

population

The Morgenthau Plan

Closing of Mines
Another oft repeaced criticism of the Morgenthau plan involves closing

September 27. 1944

of the Ruht mines for while This as said, in unnecessarily hard and

would deprive Europe essential supplies

Again experts him the purpose of this objection "to throw smoke
screen the mines area's closed temperatily, the Allies will forced to

Let's Hear More
One excellent test of any plan for setting the German question is
whether it is likely to pervent the German from starting another was as

ask Germans back to operate them an obviously dangerous concession

At supplies athocities here APT amount that England rushing
to the support this suggestion least for Britain mines on ment the
demand and this move would help her salve her ove employment

but the result shocking to some people The cry that Morgenthes wants

Many other criticisms seen to fade away under serious scratiny. For

. "hand" peace has gone up Some people - to believe the . "well"

problem

they

world

That's shocking admission of weakness among the Allies which is
any

one

Is brief. the Secretary proposes this that Germany be converted into

Another shout has good up over the "value of German industrial
fact

this

Actually, what Morgenthan urges is neither "hard" peace is the
vengeful sense, not "soft" peace in forgiving one but realistic peace

But that wouldn't be hard The important things are the machines,
which can relocated easily The buildings area's essential

backed

from

peace would straighter out the Germans

instance,
greatothercry has been about the dificulty of "moving indus
trial
plants

not

recover

Secretary Morgenthau has worked out plan with that test in mind

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way

As shows urticle the argument that industrial Ger

essential Escape's economy just baseless
No sensible person even attempts that the Morgenthau plan
be accepted 100 per case The Treasury itself recognizes compromise or

such major points - the division Germany into northern and southern
regionswilland on such miner points as the temporary closing of the Ruhr
necessary

predominantly agricultural country by interna actionalizing the Ruhe, heart

of her heavy industry, distributing as separations to the countries the has
looted the machinery of Germany's was plants and giving Silesia and East

Prussia Poland
Morgenthau convinced that Germany remains in industrial nation
after the war she will rebuild her heavy industry, now in the process of
destruction and be ready for was in another bee or twenty years

It Makes Sense

The entire scheme and its background have been distorted by the pre
mature leak and those who fear the program are using this to their own

But if the forced to work out her destiny as largely agricultural
nation, Morgenthas reasons it would take her two three generations to
prepare again for wer-ever if Allied commissions and annual of occupa
tion are withdrawn much sooner than we hope they will be
Secretaries Hull and Stimson who with Morgenthau are members of

But basic issue remains just this
What shall we do with Germany to make sure that never again will

be able to threaten world peace?

special Cabinet committee appointed by the President to work out plans

for postwar Germany, are reported be opposed Morgenthau's plan
We think the plan makes good deal of sense, and we are particularly

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Samuel Grafton

Title

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pleased that it smoking our Hull and Seimson Perhaps if there enough
debate Morgenthau's properals, all government officials charged with

planning Germany's postwar existence will take the public isto their
confidence

SAMUEL GRAFTON - his start in the newsuper business in the

We earnestly hope that Morgenthau's plan causing the State Dept

to reconsider the wisdom of policies in respect to France, Spain and

Italy and also the quality of - appl especially that of
Robert Murphy political adviser General Eisenhower Germany
It seems obvious that any German plan finally adopted will depend
upon the men carrying out policy on the some

A Bad History
Hull s aid to favor stem measures for Germany but not Morgenthan's

particular set of measures However, the State Dept. now constituted
may prove incapable of carrying out sound German policy.

What can we reasonably expect from the department view of in

"onge" policy with Gaulle "soft" policy with Franco, its compro
mises with Bedoglio and the House Savoy
We like the Morgrethau plan because recognizes that the Germans

cannot be trusted run heavy industry They have twice made their
anseral to world war We believe the Allies should adopt this idea basic principle and make all other plases of German wettlement. politi

cal, territorial etc.to it.

Also we think that the grandchildren of Nan soldiers would not want

conquer the world the value of peace were once made clear the

place where many first sale newspapermes end writing editurials
From there or was but kep towards becoming that national one-that
the conductor of the coloros known a I'd Rather the Right
in his newspaper colores which originaled in the New York Post
whither the had been bought from Philadelphia editorial writer, Mr
Grafton has sooned - many firsts that becomes imposible to give .
detailed for in the short space available

He was, for example, - of the first and most committees of the cal
amounts is inside that the Government place an enburge - the sale of
acray ime and see to Japan AS told, be wrote more than seventy separate

columns as this subject pelor to Pearl Harbor. His famous line, The
Ansteral of Democracy is The Filling Station of Fascium, was - of the
classics of that campaign.

He was among the list I not the first American west, leuse the phrase
Second From The phese was coined in the beginning of his campaign
to gst America do something specific toward getting under way with the

was to Democracy Here again he come with phesio the west winging

Germans Samuel Grafton has proposed plan consistent with Moegen
than's under which the German would learn cherish peace

across the country, " Policies Were Planes Democracy Would TR

Grafton has urged that we sign treaty with Germany granting her
instead long anmistice After the had proved to the world the building

blas under which the United States and other government of the world

her future peacefully and democratically, the would be restored to the

opened their borders - temporary havens to homeless refugees, giving

family nations through formal peace treaty
Let's protect ourselves against Germany and then make has show us

that trust her

H was the first to conceive the idea of Free Ports los Relagina the

them an opportunity for breathing spell from the terrera of war
In addition his work KE columns for the New York Post and the
add other ownspapers throughout the country, Mr. Grahom his found

THE to write two natural books "All Our For Domectacy, and "As
American Diary He has also done great deal of work radio on
mentator and has lectured and traveled from COAN to

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Memorandum for the Secretary.

April 20, 1945.

Mail Report

questions about German currency, the defaulted bonds

of several countries, and control of foreign funds.

The death of President Roosevelt overshadowed

There were a few suggestions regarding disposal of
the Nazi gold hoard, but this had about disappeared
from the mail by the end of the week.

everything else in the mail received during the
past week. Communications took every form from
printed cards to cablegrams, and offered many
suggestions, but all with the same objective -- to
honor fittingly a great man. Letters came in every
mail urging that the Seventh Drive be a memorial to
him, and many asked that his picture be used on one
or more denominations of the "g" Series to be offered
during the Drive. Special bonds for school children,
with his picture, were also suggested, and there was
continuing recommendation for bonds of smaller
denominations than any yet issued -- these to be
especially commemorative of President Roosevelt's

interest In "the little man".

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There was a great deal of pressure for coins or
paper
currency, varying from a Roosevelt 5g piece to
a $25 bill. The most popular, however, was the idea
that a dime be minted with the head of Roosevelt on
one side and a symbol of Warm Springs on the other.
More ambitious plans included trust funds, shrines,
and even international unions. Aside from these,
there were many letters from persons who said nothing
about specific memorials, but simply expressed their
heartfelt grief over the passing of the President.
Tax mail, though slightly increased, brought in
new comments or Ideas, and the rest of the bond
mail was along the same lines as that we have
received earlier. There were a few scattered suggestions following the lead of a radio commentator
that the Seventh Drive be dedicated to Mr. Truman
as an expression of confidence and support. Military
successes in Europe brought an increased number of

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General Comments

Michael Stern, Kelso, Washington. According
to reports in the Press and on the radio, U. S. Army
troops have taken as a prize of war. German gold
reserve funds of approximately $100,000,000. I herewith announce my claims on this taken treasure, the

amount of which I reserve the right to specify later
on. I have lived all not life in Berlin, Germany, as
a citizen of Austris. When the Nazia conquered
Austria in 1938, I was forcibly deprived of my
Austrian citizenship and robbed. Now as an
American citizen I as sure that legal and moral considerations will make American legislators see the
justice and righteousness of my claim. I herewith

urge the Honorable Secretary of the Treasury to consider my claim as a first step to become reimbursed
for my losses out of this captured German treasure.
C. K. Wynne, Export Managers Club of Chicago, Chicago,

Illinois. The members of our Club, by referendum,
have voted over 12 to 1 in favor of the Bretton Woods
Agreements, involving participation by the United
States in both the International Monetary Fund and the
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
I thought you would be interested in learning of this
action on the part of our Club, especially in view of
the fact that It isthat
based
on aBoard
vote of
membership,
of our
of the
Directors,
as has
a number of
been and not the simply
case by organizations who have
opposed the Bretton Woods proposals.

Richard Rucier, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I would
like to congratulate you on the wonderful job you
are doing as head of the Treasury Department. I am
only fourteen but I still appreciate the job you are
doing. Keep up your good work.

Joseph W. Walter, Atlantic City, N. J. I an just

a teen-aged boy In the Atlantic City Public Schools,
and I would like to know if it would be possible to
have our former President Roosevelt's picture put on

a new American bill of about eight dollars. think
we should, in remembrance of our beloved former

President. If it is possible, 1 would like to know
If you would send me one of the first off the Press,
and I would send you the money for it right away.

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George Burns and Gracie Allen, Hollywood, California.
(Telegram) We respectfully suggest that the Seventh
War Loan be designated the Franklin D. Roosevelt
Memorial War Loan.

Max Goldberg, Chicago, III. (Telegram) May I suggest
that you consider very carefully the possibility
of designating one of the series of the 7th War Loan
to be known as "Franklin D. Roosevelt Memorial Bond

to bear no interest, or very little interest due in
ten or twenty years. I believe the citizens will

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honor our past President by their subscription to
ten billion dollars of Roosevelt Memorial Bonds as a
mark of esteem and admiration for our beloved Chief
who gave his health and life so that our nation can
survive. If you agree with me, I would like the
privilege of being the first one to subscribe $2,000
toward the Roosevelt Memorial Bond in recognition of
my two sons in service, one who is in France and the
other in Iron.

Joseph Costs, Bronx, N. Y. In this the hour of a
Nation stricken numb with grief at the untimely
passing of our beloved President, it has occurred to
me that there must be millions of people throughout
these U. S., humble, everyday people like myself,

who, although their hearts are filled with sorrow
will not be able to find an outlet to express their
grief. These people are asking of the man in the street,
"Want can we do? Who will show us how to prove our
loyalty and devotion to the man who now lies sleeping

his last sleep? . What better way could NO find

than to dedicate the 7th War Loan Drive to his memory,
make it the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial Drive.

Thus we will serve notice to the world at large that
in Death as well as in Life, the ideals for which he
strived will live on and be brought to a swift and
complete realization.

Wm. Gintel, Mamaroneck N. Y. As we Americans bow

our heads in mourning for the loss of our great
leader, we should also remember that it is our duty
to carry out his policy of a United America for
complete victory. It is in his memory that I suggest
we set aside one day during the 7th War Bond Drive
as F.D.R. Day and call upon all Americans to support

what our great leader so willingly gave his last full
measure of strength.

Mrs. Dolly Hill Brown, Wichita Falls, Texas. I am
one of the million common people that have lost a
friend in the death of our President, Franklin D.
Roosevelt. Would it be out of line to ask if a day
or week be set aside to honor the President by buying
more bonds to show our faith in the country he loved
and died for?

Henry J. Faber, New York City. The 7th War Loan Drive
is the first chance the American people have to give
the new and honorable President Truman a vote of

confidence. If we expect that President Truman

is to become the great leader of democracy our late
President Roosevelt has so deservedly been credited
with, and If he is to grow to be the symbol of freedom

for the world, If he is expected to speak for the

American people at future conferences, he must get an

overwhelming endorsement by the public. To my
opinion, this can be displayed best by the average

American by lending more money to the Government than
in previous War Loan Drives.

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Mrs. John F. Coulon, Johnny Coulon Products Co.,

Chicago, Illinois. . Would it be possible to have

Wesley A. Taylor, Santa Ans, California. Twice
in recent months when I have tried to buy some U. S.
Treasury 2 1/2% bonds I have been informed that
they were not available, and that I would have to
defer my purchase until the next bond drive. I am

the 7th Loan changed to "Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Loan in tribute to the greatest man the world has

ever know? I have been so saddened by the passing
of our beloved President that I thought we could do
nothing that would please him more than to buy more
bonds, so when I am selling them now ask them to

blazes forth in huge type, and every radio blares
forth admonitions to "buy war Bonds I should be
confronted with this situation where I must either
let my funds lie idle for a time or else buy some
type of bond which is not my preference. If there
is any good valid reason for this situation, I would
be pleased to know what It may be.

I

buy in tribute to the late President Roosevelt.
sold two $500 Bonds to a little man today who felt

wondering why when every newspaper and magazine

this same way.

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Mrs. Edward C. Fray, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
I'm writing to you to see If you can give me any
information regarding two twenty-five dollar War
Bonds purchased by my son who was killed in France

on October 7, 1944. I've written several letters to
the New York address, but I have received no answer

whatsoever. will you please see that I get & definite answer to this letter?

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Report of the War Refugee Board

for the period from March 26 to April 7, 1945

WAR REFUGEE BOARD

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WASHINGTON 25 D.C.

SITUATION IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY

OFFICE OF THE
EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR

APR 20 1945

internees in Germany and German-occupied areas is very precarious.
Camp populations are being shifted from one area to another, on
foot and over long distances, and since thousands of persons are
unable to endure the rigors of these forced marches, the number

of deaths is increasing. It is feared that, as the Germans areThe
faced with mounting difficulties they will cease all attempts
to feed internees who are not useful in their war effort.
rapidity of recent military devel opments has the paradoxical
effect of rendering problematical the fullest execution of our

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I am pleased to send you herewith a copy

of the report of the War Refugee Board for the period
from March 26 to April 7. 1945.
Very truly yours,
$

William O'Dwyer

Executive Director

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury.

Enclosure.

From late reports, it seems clear that the situation of civilian

feeding and evacuation programs and at the same time redoubling
the importance of measures to bring relief to detainees who
otherwise may not receive even the minimum quantities of food
necessary to sustain their lives.
While news reports from Germany indicate that almost all
internal telephone and telegraph comminications are disrupted,
so that any general last-minute extermination of large groups
of civil detainees may be precluded by lack of centralized 88

control, it is feared that the Nazi program for the extermination of these people may nevertheless be carried out not
only by the Nazi hierarchy but by organized or roving bands
of terrorists and by individual Geruans. The Board presented
this situation to the Department of State with a strong

recommendation that serious and immediate consideration be
given to the issuance by this Government of a new warning
directed to all groups and individuals in Germany and stating
that this Government considers such acts as death caused by
starvation and neglect the same as murder in cold blood and
punishable as war orines.
Turkish-German Exchange - Reports of Exchangees
As a result of a recently effected Turkish-German exchange,
more than 130 Sephardic Jews claiming Turkish nationalit left
Lisbon on March 29 en route to Istanbul as a part of a group of
700 Turkish citizens. It was reported that these refugees, all
of whom are without documentation, were released from Bergen
Belsen and that there were included in the group 32 women
recently transferred from Ravensbruck, 2 from Auschwitz, and
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cooperation of the American and British Legations with regard
to blookade aspects of replacement, A quantity of Diesel oil
was released from Swiss commercial sources for the use of
the International Red Cross.
Late reports from Representative McClelland outline plane

According to information furnished by the refugees, large
numbers of internees have been transferred from camps in Poland
and there were said to be between 45,000 and 50,000 persons
interned at Bergen Belsen and approximately 50,000 at Ravenabrack.

of Intercross for parcel distributions In view of the rapidly

or the latter 000 are Jews, for the most part Hungarian.

worsening condition of detainees in the concentration camp#
of Oranienburg, Ravenabrock and Ranburg-Neuengane and in
view of the inminent possibility that the Berlin-Labeckmay
available

The group of 155 goanish Sephardica deported from Athens were

reported to be still at Bergen Belsen but were expected to leave
soon for Switzerland. Although there are apparently no basic
changes since the last reliable reports, conditions in the
campa were said to be terrible, and all of the refugees urged
that food be sent to the craps.

Hanburg area where no trucks are presently to the
soon be out off. first efforts are being directed

dispatch of supplies and means of transport to this region.
Five trucks were scheduled to leave Switzerland on April and
for Labeck to unload supplies at Berzen Beleen en route
then work out of Labeck distributing to concentrations of

RELIEF AND EVACUATION PROJECTS

detainees at Ravensbrack and Hambur Neuenganne Board parcels

Operations from Switzerland

shipped from Goteborg. Intercross is checking on the number
of Board parcels already at Labeck and it hopes to be able
about

Representatives Mann, McClelland, and Ketzki met in Paris

to discuss with military authorities certain phases of transportation problems incident to the sending of relief parcels
to civilian detainees in Germany and German-held territory
and the renoval of such detainees to safety in Switzerland
a result of these discussions, a number of truck tires and tubes

to distribute all of such parcels in this area within

three weeks time. A shipment of some ten tone of relief
goods for the women' concentration camp at Ravensbrack is
be carried by a small convoy of wood-burning trucks which
to to n Swiss commercial concern and which are expected
belong to leave soon for Dennark to repatriate Swies citizens there.

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were obtained and arrangements were made for weekly deliveries

of gasoline. Representative Katzki is now in Switzerland
assisting McClelland in working out the details of the program.
Prior to his departure for Paris, Representative McClelland
reported from Bern that several large trucks obtained on
rental basis in Switzerland were to be available soon to transport relief supplies to civil detainees in the Buchenwald and
Vienna areas. A smaller number of trucks, obtained commercially
by a private organization with Representative McClelland's
assistance, were expected to leave shortly with relief supplies
for internees in Bargen
Belsen.for(It Theresienstadt
was later reported
that
instead
these trucks left on March
available
tires
with
that
indicated
was
It
Belaen.
Bergen
more trucks could be rented in Switzerland, and there were
prospects of obtaining additional vehicles from other sources.

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Probably the greater part of relief shipments by truck
will be made to the Muni region and areas east and northeast
of that point which it 10 felt may be accessible for a longer be
period than campe in the northern areas. Deliveries will
made to camps of Dachau, Landaberg-an-Lech, Flossenburg, and
thausen near Line, as well AS emergency relief distributions
evacuated deportees on the roads. Four trucks with a

to 200 kilograme each are scheduled to leave on
capacity 12 or of 13 for Dachau, where they will retain to distribute
April a number
smaller
camoe
this
area
parcels
to largeof
within
a few
daysinthe
balance
of

edministered from Dechau. in Switzerland

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approximately 50 000beBoard
parcels rail remaining to the new Intercroes depot
shipped
are at Ravensburg, expected between the Swies border and Munich. The
to

Division of Special Assistance of the International Red Cross
to receive eleven more trucks, which will be used to
is soon these parcels on as rapidly as possible from the depot

In addition to truck transportation one railway car carrying

1.170 Board parcel and other relief @UDD) Lies destined for
Theresienstadt and two care carrying 1,900 Board parcel

as

well as other relief materials for the Vienna area were

move to accessible camp# near Munich and to the east and northeast.

scheduled to go forward about March 24.

After his return to Bern, Representative McClelland
informed us that Swiss trucks were being equipped with the
and tubes which had been secured but that the only
the
tires trucks available in Switzerland for this purpose were of
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type that burn Diesel oil instead of gasoline. with the

by

Operations from Sweden

Representative McClelland was informed by the International
that two railroad care containing 5 400 Board parcels
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REPORTS ON SURVIVING JEWS

Board parcels each left for the Hamburg- -Neuenganne concentra-

tion CAME on March 17. We were advised by our Legation in
Stookholm that the Intercroes delegate at Gotebore has
reported shipments of Board parcels totaling 28 800 to
Hamburg-Neuengamme and 12,800 to Ravenebrack Representative
Olsen has been authorized to make available to the Swedish
Red Cross or the Swediah Y. M. C. A. 40,000 of the parcela
remaining at Goteborg for delivery to internees at Bergen

According to reports of representatives of a private
organization the present Jewish population of Budapeat is
estimated at approximately 150,000 and thousands are refrom deportation labor, and concentration camps.

appearing
still in hiding in Bratislava who are
There are 2,000 Jaws Red Cross representative;

being
aided by the International About
the food situation there 16 anid to be fairly good. is

Belsen.

1,600 Jews in Zagreb, where the situation in general food
described as fairly good, with stocks of olothing and Greece
available, are also being assisted. There remain in
8,500 Jews, approximately 10% of the pre-war Jewish

According to the report of a private organization

representative who recently returned to London from Sweden,
a Swediah Red Cross official has succeeded in obtaining
from the Germans approval for the establishment near Weimar
of a special camp for Danish and Norwegian civilian internees
to be under the protection and
administration ofGermans
the Swedish
The
suggestion was made that the
Cross.
Red
similar
establishment
the
for
proposal
with

some of that country. or this number, 4,500 are in

Athens, population including some 1,500 Salonika Jews.
SPANISH REPUBLICAN REFUGEES

be

of

recently learned from our Enbassy in Lisbon that the

a

approached

camps for Jews, and it was indicated that the Swedish Government and the Swedish Red Cross are willing to cooperate in

We situation of Spanish Republican refugees in have Portugal been supporting has

become more precarious. Private agencies arrest by Portuguese

such plan.

police these refugees and deportation in hiding to to imprisonment prevent their and possible execution of a

Bpain. In recent weeks however, the hiding places arrest

EVACUATIONS FROM SWITZERLAND
I

number in of them have
been of
discovered
resulting
in the danger
of many
them and
in increasing

Recent information from military authorities indicated that
the earliest possible date for moving the two groups of

and imprisonment In a anble to Ambassador Winant and Mr. Harrito the others. Board called the attention of the Intergovernmental
this

Bergen Belsen and Theresienstadt refugees from Switzerland
to UNREA camps was April 15. According to a late cable from

son the the nlight of these refugees and strongly
Consittee to that the IOC take over the maintenance of

Paris, however, it is planned to effect the evacuation of
these refugees to Philippeville and southern Italy in two
groups and April 30 has been set as the preliminary target
date for the first half. Arrangements for their transports
tion from the Swiss border will be made by military authorities,
who are now arranging feeding and shelter accomoda tions for
the refugees while in France. The United Nations Relief and
Rehabilitation Administration has suggested that its Versaillee
mission offer military authorities supplementary medical and
welfare personnel for the care of the refugees en route.

recommended of its over-all program on the Iberian
Peninsula group as a and part that it arrange for the speedy evacuation of

the refugees in question to places of safety.

INTERGOVERNING COMMITTEE

reported by Mr. Harrison, Representative that of this

It
was on the Intergovernment
Committee
as # and
Government
between the French
authorities
result the Assistant of discussions Director of the IGC. the Committee Affairs has that been the

the French Ministry of Foreign signed

A report from Bern informed us that six of the exchangees
from Bergen Belaen who had to be hospitalized in Switzerland
in
have now recovered sufficiently to be able to travel and
Representative McClelland will endeavor to include then

advised by having ratified the Convention of
French Government, February 10, 1938, concerning the status

at Geneva on from Germany and having decided to adhere
refugees
coming protocol
extending
the provisions
the
to the additional
from
Austria,
wishes ofthe

the convoy of refugees to go to Philippeville. It is
contemplated that the remaining three exchangees who were 111
will also be transferred to Philippeville if they are physically

Convention to refugees coming officially within

able to undertake the journey when the refugees leave Switzer-

Intergovernmental framework of its Committee general to sandate assume the protection The French of

the coming from Jermany and Austria. accepts

land.
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refugees Foreign office further stated that If the Connittee

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the official mission, the French Government is prepared
to take measures by decree to enable the Committee's
representative in France to exercise the same powers

ASinwere
Francethe
the
been

League Austrian protection the High legal refugees of Commissioner Nansen and political refugees. formerly protection Mr. conferred with Harrison of respect Gernan upon has to

authorized by this Government to vote favorably on
acceptance of the proposals of the French Government at
the meeting of the Executive Connittee called for April 11
to consider the French Government's invitation.

In view of the urgent need for funds to proceed with a
number of action programs now in readiness,
end asthat
a to
recommendation

avoid
IGC this
andGovernment 1945

earlier
reconsendations for this purpose were submitted to the
Bureau of the Budget Mr. Harrison was informed of this
notion and advised that every effort 18 being made to
secure consideration and final action before the Executive
Committee meeting scheduled for April 11.

conformity result administrative further of Mr. with delay Harrison's operational commitments, strong expenditures contribute appropriate to in

:

William ODozer
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Dated April 20, 1945

Dated April 20, 1945

Itec'd 5:57 p.m.

Rec'd 2:05 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Secretary of State

teachington.

Washington

2315, April 20, a p.m.
4054, Twentieth

FOR YOUR PROM ECCLELIAID

Regarding possible relief to urmaniana in Germany
ICRC has now informed us that (Department's 1350
IRR's LEAL April 5) committee possesses no utilisable
information whatever concerning Arnerian refugees
of POIS in Germany.

FOLLOWING LESSAGE FROM EMERSON

COMETTIC ON REPUBLICS LONDON FOR EARL HARILISON AMERICAN
REPRESENTATIVE INTERO VERIMENTAL COMMITTEE OF REFUGENS

Message begins. is have now received approval of

British Government to proposals relating to Spain and

There are apparently Arueniana among Russian

POIS but their number and location are unknown since
Germand have never as general rule supplied ICHC with

date on Soviet POINS. There are similarly doubtless
Arsanian forced lacorers deported from Soviet Union
to Jenuar occupied regions but any information concerning

their or whereavouts are also lacking. TORO

has never, as you know, undertaken relief programs for

forced workers in Germany.

Portugal contained in my memorandum of the 16th February

1945. No conditions are attached to the approval but
hope is expressed first that we should try to persuade

the Spanish and Portaguese Governments to contribute to

the cost infolved and second having regard to high cost

of living in Spain and difficult currency problem in
Portugal. High priority should be given in due course

to renoval and resettlement of the refugees in the

Iberian Peninsular. No shall be grateful if you can

expedite approval of Government of United States.

Any analy Armentan civil detained who happens to be

Message ends.

in concentration camp accessible to our - deliveries

MINANT

will benefit from them exactly as do insates of others
nationalities.

RR

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Agency. (UNTRICTED)

Rec'd 10:25 P.S.
Secretary of State,
Washington.

Secretary of State,

2299, April 20, 3 p.m.

Washington

WILL FROM MOCLELLAND

Department's 1205, NEB'S 476, March 24.

834, Twentieth

Plans are shaping up satisfactorily now for

VK 389 JDC 221 FOR LEAVITY FROM TRONS.

evacuation special groups of Jewish refugees from
Bargen Helsen and the Resienstadt from Switserland
to UNICIAL reception campa in North Africa and perhaps

Italy.

Dries authorities are making all preliminary
preparation including formation of conveys, supplying
railroad care, medical personnel, etc. and move is being
courdinated with SHARK 0-4, G-5 and UNICILLA with whom this

question was thoroughly discussed in Paris at end of
March.

Teur 166. Gottfarb insists stockpiles owned by
American Red Cross under supervision of Mr. Khrenhelt

of International Red Cress who probably tesk ever stock.
piles formally. Congress nereals were Keacher and turned
ever after Congress aggitiations is America and 10cal

Congress paid nothing. Certain quantities clothing is

First group of approximately 1100 personal is
schedules leave Geneva on or about May 2 for Marseille.

Second group of similar sise should depart aid-day.

Geteborg's free part belenging to American Red Cross.

It may be necessary and third,

Suggest New York negotiaties with American Red Gress if

these special groups are being evacuated with exception
of Dutch nationals. They are mainly Sungarians,

we could borrey feed and elething until Joint can get

later. Refugees of all nationalities represent within
Runardans, Caeche, Tugoslavs, Poles and forner Germane

material to Sweden.

from the Resignstadt.

BARUCH

will keep you informed of progress this movement.
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Date April 20, 1945
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Agency. (RESTRICTED)

833, Twentieth
WEB 390, JDC 222. FOR LEAVITY FROM THORE BYCHOWSKI

Secretary of State

Association Pelish Jews in Syndan received cable

Hashington

dated Nescow tweIfth. Necessary help for saved is
835, April 20, noon

laber Came elething. shees, feed, teels for tailers.

yollowing non-preference quota numbers alloted for

theemakers, joiners, keymakers. Send - lists persons
as Sweden, Xingland, Central Committee of Felish
Jeve, Fareav. Seereka 31. Dr. Kail Bennerstein Gettfash
attempted contact issuezatein several times but never

refugee children for month of March 1945 returned unused.

Figures represent 25% of block alloted Department's inclusive.

Derman 4642-4791 Polish 1794-1831; Belgian 262-269;

received reply. Perhaps you should consider authoristing
Gattfarh give Bycheveki meney establish search service
for us. Please advise.

Netherlands 503-522, Caechoslovakia 589-603; French
529-5481 Mangarian 348,385.
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FOR LEAVITT FROM THORE.

Anticipate British stealer will take within few days
253 Tangier's certificate holders. (This is mt 388 JDC
220). $120 average cost passage. Regarding method

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Information received up to 10 A.M. 20th April, 1945.
NAVAL

Mediterranean. 16th/17th (Night). Coastal forces sank two.
possibly three, ships in convoy in Gulf of Venice, while Yugoslav
coastal craft and an N.T.B. sank an F-Lighter and probably an E-boat
same area. MTB 697 mined and sunk south of Fiume.

1.

2. Anti-Submarine Operations. 19th. U.S. Destroyer made promising
attack on U-boat S.E. Halifax. Aircraft attacked 4 U-boats and an
Escort vessel in the Skagerrak when two probably sunk and a third
and the Escort vessel damaged.
MILITARY

3. Western Front. (Southern "ector): 1st French Army and 7th U.S.

Army continued make progress with latter capturing Ansback and now
engaged clearing Nuremberg where heavy fighting taking place.
(Central Sector): Patrols of 3rd U.S. Army have crossed Czeck front-

1er East of Hof. 1st U.S. Army has partially cleared Leipzig and also
mopped up area between this city and River Mulde. Considerable Germar
forces have also been cut off in Hartz mountains by junction 1st and
9th U.S. Armies near Bernsburg. (Northern Sector): U.K. arnour
reported on River Elbe at Lauenburg and within 5 miles Harburg while
further vest 1st Canadian Corps report southern edge of Zuider Zee
between Kampen and Harderwijk clear of enemy.

4. Eastern Front. (Central Sector) Germans report three days
violent fighting East Berlin, admitting fighting now taking place 20
miles west of Oder, while further south they report Russian spear=
heads as having reached River Spree between Cottbus and Bautzen.

Russians describe these operations as reconnaissinces in force which
during last three days have developed into battles sining at the
capture and widening of bridgeheads over Oder and Sniese. They state
bridgehead over Oder. west of Kustrin widened while another made to

south over Noisse, S.E. of Cottbus. (Southern Sector): Further

advances made in areas S.S. (Bruno?) and North Vienna.

5. Italy On 8th Army Sector U.K. formations have advanced 4 mile
while East of Bologna British troops have advanced 1 to 2 miles
against determined resistance. On 5th Army sector advances of up to

along West shore Lake Conacchio and not mopping up Porto Maggiore

4 miles made on 16 mile front S.W. Bologna.

6. Burna. (Central Sector): Villages of Singu, Chauk and Sale on

Irrawaddy occupied without opposition and much equipment taken. S.E.

of this armoured column advancing westwards from Taungdwingyi now

within 3 miles of Irrawaddy while further East another aroured column
had advanced 12 miles south Shwemyo.
AIR

7. Western Front: 19th Bonber Command Lancasters 47 bombed through
cloud railway transformer station at Munich (189 tons) while further
escorted Lancasters 33 dropped 204 tons (including six 12,000 pounds)
on three batteries Heligoland when some direct hits or near nisses
obtained. U.S. escorted heavy bombers 589 (outstanding bombers
5 and fighters 5) dropped 1359 tons visually on five railway targets
in area Leiprig/Prague/Dresden, inflicting enemy casualties 18:015 11
combat. SHAEF (Air) - Medium bombers 475 dropped 681 tons on thre
railway centres Southern Germany and 105 tons on Dunkirk, while 1847
fighters and fighter bonbers (missing 10) operated all sectors destro
ing 500 M.T. and inflicting enemy casualties 17:0:5 in combat and

81:8:66 on ground. Halifaxes attacked shipping in Skagerrak and
Kattegat when hits obtained on two 3,500 ton ships.

3. Mediterranean. 17th/18th (Night). Liberators dropped 137 tons
on communications Porto Maggiore.

18th. Escorted U.S. heavy bombers 473 dropped 974 tons on
targets Bologna area.

Bombers 371 attacked railway bridges Austria and supported both
armies while fighters and fighter bombers 1133 (missing 11) operated
battle areas.

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(Dr. O'Connell and Mr. Luxford enter the conference.)
H.M.JR: Hanneran and in today, and in the talk he
had
with Barry,
Barry told him he would positively vote
for Bretton
Goods.

GROUP

Present: Mr. D. . Bell
Mr. Bartelt

12. WITE: Did he any how recent that talk was?

Hr. White

Vr. Ganble
Mr. Hans

Mr. blough
Mr. Pehle

H.M.JR: No. but I couldn't quite understand-you
can find out Monday. e talked some and Joe Numan talked

some.

Mr. C. S. Bell

N.H.JH: I will see Joe Numan.

Mr. DuBois
Mr. Coe

Mr. Fussell
Mrs. Klotz

And there is a man that sounded like Lauchlin, who
is lawyer.
13. LUXFORD: President of a bank in New York.

KR. D. it. BELL: That is the starm the President
approved before he died, and after he died they decided

to out this in quotations and out his more on it. That
will be on sale wednesday (indicating).
MR. C. S. BELL: I thought you might want to see theto
flag showing the number of servicement that have cone
wer and those we have lost. No are roing to hasp it un

in the reception room. All the boys have seen It outside.
We will keep that un and just change this figure.

H.M.JR: I see. That is a lot. I have about twenty=

five minutes.

one.

MR. O'CONNELL: 1 am not sure that he is the same

H.M.JR: He represents some bankers, but he said that
between
him
and Joe
Nunan Barry unequivocally promised
to vote for
Brotton
Woods.
MR. O*CONNELL: Good.

(Secretary leaves the conference tennorarily.)
H.M.JR: That Was Fred Smith.

there is Fussell?

Gentlemen, what 1 would like to say is this:
Where is White?

I told Smith anything he wanted in doing this article
about me to
you
would be glad to cooperate. Draw Krs. Klots'
attention
that.

VR. WHITE: Right here.

H.M.JR: Let's start on Bretton Goods. This man
Hannegan was in here today, and he tells ne that in the
talk he had with Barry and--

Yell, anyway, get in touch with Joe Nunan, will you?
MR. O'CONNELL: Yes.

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H.M.JR: And not the story straight. But Hannegan
he had & private talk with this fellow, and between
said
the two of them it was understood that It TOLD a deal
that he would vote for Bretton Noods.
Mr. O'CONNELL: Yes.

H.M.JH: 1 don't know any more, but there ass some
kind of a deal.
13. O'CORKELL: O.K.

H.M.JR: But no if's, and's and but's. Now, 1 called

Crowley to follow up on what he had done about Congressun man Hull because 1 hadn't heard from him. and this in the
answer. He is out of town, but Crowley had already smoken
with Congressman Hull about some amendments. Mr. Dull
will 70 alone. The Congressman seems reasonably friendly
about the matter. according to Crowley, so 1 think somebody should call on Congressnet Hull.
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12. (*CONTELL: All right.
E.M.JR: I will be away not more than Monday or
Tuesday at the nost. And 0.0 I understand it for the we time

and it was pretty nearly the first point in your memo,
Larry, that is, the Council. we didn't discuss anything
in detail, but the over-all Council, the CED proposal,
and that is about all. that WBS the other, Luxford?
MR. LUXFORD: That is all he mentioned.

MR. O*CONVELL: Our understanding is we will talk to
Welcott arain when he has a document from the bankers. we
are riving hin nothing.

K.I.J.: You are civing him nothing. and I haven't

arreed to anything.

VR. O'CONNELL: Oh. yes.

H.N.JR: Let's understand We keet the bankers--if
the bankers want to talk with Colcott and Nolcott wants
to make . deal. then I CBC find out what it is and we
can to to Spence and talk it over with him.

MR. D. 7. BELL: That is all right with no.
H.M.JR: But 1 want to be enchatic.

being there will be no talks with the bankers. Do

12. LUXFORD: what olcott is seeking ultimately to
do is get something he can procose that everybody will

MR. WHITE: But Mr. *Conneil and Mr. Luxford had .
conversation with--

H.M.JH: All right, but I haven't agreed to anything
yet. Nothing for the bankers, see? You know, he is our
main banker fellow, Mr. Banker Luxford. He sits there, and

understand that?

R. O'CONNELL: Colcott-MR. WHITE: this afternoon.

agree to.

be will be Wearing 0 vest and susts soon.

13. LUXFORD: Don't I look like one?

JR. O'CCNNELL: is Just came from there.

H.M.JR: Shall we associate with him? (Laughter)

E.M.JR: Lot's have the facts.

MR. LUXFORD: Well, anyway, the main proponent now--

MR. O'CONNELL: Mr. Wolcott is getting from Burgess a

written statement of the bankers' position, at which time
are going to talk amin to Holcott, not with the bankers.
we in outlined what he understood the bankers' position was,

JR. D. 7. BELL: I think going through Wolcott is all
right. 1 don't think we ought to be discourteous to the
bankers. After all, we have been discussing the matter

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-6H.M.JR: Now, White, I am going to have to read your
stuff on the plane, see?

with them, and some place alone the line I think we ourht
to sit down with them.

MR. WITE: All right.

Yes, but when the time cones it, to see. sit down--I
have H.M.JR: reached the point that I want to do

13. D. N. BELL: That is right.

(Mrs. Klotz enters the conference.)
12. WHITE: The boys have come back with the latest
copy of the reparations thing and it is much better than
we had hoped for, so we won't be in any difficulty on that.

this

H.M.JH: Luxford, But in the no meantime talks, just while so I we an understand away fine. and each

H.M.JR: So such happened today that 1 don't know how

is other. roing And on, 1 think the thing is coming alon

I can net it all over, but I had 8 very good talk with

McCloy and what 1 are saying here is to stay in the

While white 10 gone we could have--Joe is here and
Luxford is here.

here, if you please, and that goes for ne as well as room the

rest of you. I don't want to have some of these people
tell you, you know, about so and so--one of your men told
me, and 1 said, No, I hope to hear about it tonight.

MR. WHITE: 1 sent you a meno.

H.M.JH: I read it. Luxford will try to net into
White's shoes.

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MR. WHITE: You are looking at the right guy. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: And General Eisenhower and General Bedell

IR. LUXFORD: I will try, but 1 won't steal them,

Smith were entirely satisfied with the nemo of the 23rd,
see. And for three nights he talked to them and told

Harry.

them just what had happened. and he was there one week

H.M.JR: But the relationship has been all right.
MR. WHITE: If you don't, it is because they are too

advance of General Clay. lie had a little trouble celling in
Clay because some of the other boys thought that was a

VR. O'CONNELL: There will be no trouble.

to say
the picture Clay.
he paints of Germany
quarter.
finishyou
even
Needless
is worse than
read
about in the and 1 a

job they
night want, but he did sell then didn't
NT conversation, although we had an hour

small.

disormanization. The cities in out

H.M.JR: Is that all right?

many decayed teeth. He said there was
Doolittle to do any more, there were no strategic

for complete like General so papers Germany nothing as stand to a

MR. O' CONNELL: Perfectly.

targets just use the planes to

andthe
slave
lator
from the front
to homes,
prisoners
transport
and
same with
theleft,
Belgians.
That istheir
what French

H.M.JR: There is a perfectly happy relationship

now. They also asseed to

around here.

people un forward so

MR. O'CONNELL: Fine. 1 get along fine with Luxford.

Russian Doolittle made liberated is doing when a keep General juncture the

was they could shove them across the Russian line
into the hands of the Hussians and not have this terrific
group traveling first back and then forward,and save on

Luxford? (Laughter) Anybody who Goods isn't from happy

the H.M.JR: representation on the Hill on Bretton
on the Treasury, speak up.

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He net with the Var Cabinet. and they maked him about the
German thing, where did he stand on the Morrenthau Plan,
and he practically told them Morrenthau was a missy, and
on his return he ass much streamer for the decentrolisati
of Germany than when he left. And in the POOUS I mentioned
that Clayton had 5 chance of heart after President Roosevelt's

death, and he said, "I will cut his heart out if he doesn't
after I net through with him. He ither is right on this

behave himself, and he won't be able to stay around Weshington
German thing or he will leave town.

18. PERLE: Is this McCley or Baruch?

Baruch. He said, "I will cut his heart out.
That is all have not to live for now is to see that

Germany is deindustrialized and that it's done the right way,
and I non' let anybody net in my way. and I think he
meant it. he not so emotional he had tears in his eyes.
I have never heard It can talk as strongly no he did. And
he is roins to rive me stuff next week when he cones down.
He told President Truman that he is very much bothered

that the are so slow in moving. For heaven's sake, make
un your mind what you are roing to do." he said. "There
is no plan around here.
NO. WATTE: Has he discussed his views with the
President since his return?

H.M.JH: Yes, he had a long talk with him.
MR. WHITE: You don't know whether he not any favorable
response?

H.M. I couldn't tell, but he said he asked

Stettinius to leave the room so he could talk frankly to
the President. (Laughter) He had certain things he wanted
to tell the President very confidentially so he asked
Stettinius to leave the room. He told me that, and 1 don't
like to think he is kidding no, but he certainly went way
out of his way to convince ne he wants to do everything to
be helpful. Ee said the Anglish still haven't made up their

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mind on account of the fear of Russis, which is more important, to build Germany un or not the business they might get
by deindustrialization. He said England still hasn't crossed
that bridre. which makes sense from what we know. He wants
to talk to no about that. lie said, "They still haven't made

un their minis. He said, I painted a beautiful picture of

recovery and I saw the labor unions, and so forth, and so on,"
and he has the whole story about the sterling debt. Somebody
suggested they cancel it. He said Beaverbrook struck the table
and said, "The British will never PO back on their debt.
Not more than once in a century:
The talk w1 th ecloy was good, and the talk wi th Hannegan
this morning was very rood. The talk with Baruch was good.
Konnet's only WORRY was, could I see Pleven? lie gets in
Klotz.
Sunday of Light, and he La roine to net in contact with Mrs.
I told him that if he were only going to be here Monday after-

noon, I didn't think it would be worth his while, and If it had

anything to do with the war effort, I would come back.

Ee said it had nothing to do with the arr effort and it
could walt. He rave the an Invitation to come to Paris in May
to talk to the French. He thought that it would be very good
for their morale to carry on the Roosevelt--or whatever you

call it--line of thought. He said it would be very lovely.

lie didn't want Pleven to invite me unless I would say yes or
no in advance, and I said it would not be convenient, but I
would talk it over without coming to an understanding in
advance, and he laughed. Le is very discouraged, very downin-the-mouth. lie said eurone is absolutely downeast over
President Roosevelt's death.

McCloy attended the service at St. Paul's and he said
that Churchill broke down and cried like a baby. He said the
Kinn and there, too. He said that he walked down the streets
France the people would just stop him and talk to him
about President Roosevelt. They think over there It is Just
unbellevable. They are sorrowful all over Europe and feel
they have lost their greatest friend. Be said the services
st St. Paul's were something he will never forget, and 1 think
that lieCloy feels it very deeply, WAS able to tell him that
just shortly before the President died he had said that since

in and

he had--the President had set McCloy right on France that he,
DeGaulle, and the President had great confidence in McCioy,
and he felt McCley had been very loyal to the President. And
naturally that pleased McCloy. McCloy wants to work with us,

and he wants to not this thing cleaned up. I didn't get much
in about Clay because we didn't have time.

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the whole problem is, and is a very much stronger man than
when we went over, and his brain today was absolutely

Mr. DuBOIS: are you going to net rid of Pleven on

crystal clear, no fuddy duddy business today. It's
very encouraging. 1 didn't get down to Admiral Leahy.

this German things

I don't know where he stands.

H.M.JR: 1 did, and with Patterson. I have been fairly
accurate. It's Patterson--shere is Frank Coei Now listen,
Frank. Vh yes, I told Dear Acheson I couldn't see him today
because I have seen nothing tut fellow travelers on their

MRS. KLOTE: Baruch wouldn't miss anything.

H.M.JR: He was clear today. Now, I am just trying
to rive you fellows a little accounting. My advice to
Mr. John Pehle is that on the first of May you take a
couple of neezs vacation. Get the stuff out of your
system. Get a little health. You never had a chance
to recover from your brother and everything. You have
had a bad time. You have done a swell job, so get a
little rest, 4 little sunshine, and cone back and me'll
work the hell out of you!

way to San Francisco. when you go over there what you want
from the war and State Departments is a clan to defeat
Japan. Now, when General aedemeyer was here--] got it
from Leahy at lunch today--he gave the WHP Department
a plan on how many Divisions they want; so they had
Wedemeyer while he was here work that out, according to
Admiral Leahy. when you go over there what I want from
the War Department and the State Department, is plan

to defeat Japan, see, and then after that we will do it
the way we did my bootleg story--give then e half a

MH. PERLE: Thank you very much. I'll do it, too.
H.M.JRI I mould do that.

thousand dollars now and give then the other half then

they make good.

Mr. COE: There is just one part on that, John Carter
Vincent, whom 1 was going with, is in San Francisco.
H.M.JH: Get somebody else, and HP. sell can call up
the Acting Secretary of State and say ve rant to get
started on this thing,sa President Trunan has asked
to please have something on China on his desk.

0

MIL PERLE: Thank you.

H.M.JR: There is one fellow over there, an economist

you have.

ze

This is economic. There's will Clayton. He has
been designated-I*11 do it myself.

MR. PEALE: Silvermaster.

H.M.JR: I have heard good things about him, and no

may vant him over here.

MR. PERLE: He is needed over there, too.

I am sorry if I an talking emphatically, but I as
fighting time.

H.M. Well, as Joan said, "Morgenthau first." So,

MR. WHITE: Does Lenhy have any views on the subject,
Mr. Secretary?

H.M.JR: No, but I got this feeling which is very
important, and I will get more of it--1 got the feeling
from Baruch that he realizes the importance of being

friendly with kussis. I seeing Baruch next week.

talk to Frank Coe about it. I have a special assignment
in mind for him anyway, so don't give hin a job until he
comes here. I have a special assignment in mind for him.
plan.

H.M.Jh: Now, I'll have to read that stuff on the

an

feel he is right on Germany and Massia and feels what

I

He made a better impression than he has ever made.

MR. WHITE: There is nothing important, nothing that
can' wait.

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MR. WHITE: That really is first, but I thought I

11

would put it second so it wouldn't sound so bad. Things
are going along very smoothly here on anything I have,
together with Bretton Woods.

H.M.JHI I just thought 1 would give you people a

report. I'll be back--If the teletype system is working--

H.M.Jhs I an listening.

I want to leave so I can see Mrs. Korgenthau tonight. He
said if I got there by ten--the most I'll be gone is Monday
and Tuesday. I wrote a letter to President Truman saying
that I would like on my return to talk to him about the

in. hafTE: And so, If you cel--when you want me
1 can come back within s day. I can fly back, and 1
an just hoping that you non' want me for some time.

economic future of Germany.
Do you have anything, Charles?

H.M.Ja: For how long, huh? How long?

104. C.S. BELL: I can hold up everything until

MR. WHITE: Oh, I don't know, two or three weeks.

Wednesday.

H.N.Jh You're crazy. He's crazy. I thought you

said three days.

H.M.JH: Do that. who has something they want me
to sign.
His. KLOTE: I do.

HR. WHITE: Three days?
0

MR. LUXFORD: It's neeks instead of days.

H.M.JK: John, will you help me again . little bit
a t) this refugee business?
MR. PEHLE: Yes, I'll watch that.
H.M.JRI Miss Hodel is outside. She's coming in now.
Do you mind staying?

Mr. PERLE: Not in the least. I'd be delighted to.
H.M.JRI Harry, how long are you going to be gone?

MR. WHITE: Just as long as I possibly can. (Laughter)
Mrs. KLOTE: That's being honest. That's wonderfult
Mr. WHITE: Between the telegraph system and telephone
and ticker system, I are not hoping too much, but 1 as going
to stay as long as I can for several reasons, Mr. Secretary.
I can make very good use of the time there. I as interested

on.There
areimportant
somethings
going
in what is going

on that do affect us, and I'll enjoy being there.

MR. D.N. BELL: You should have put that first.

H.M.JR: Well, I'll be very honest, Harry. Don't
misunderstand me. If it's " question of my doing your
work, I an not going to do it.
MR. WHITE: I understand that and I hoped you

wouldn't. It's a question of my doing it or Mr. Coe
or Mr. Luxford or Mr. O'Connell. I wouldn't like you
to do it. I mean, if they are doing satisfactorily, and
1 an sure they are--

H.M.JR: If it's going satisfactorily but if it means
an I going to pick it up and do it-RN WHITE: I know you will let me stay as long as
Itocan,
and when you feel you want me back, I'll be glad
come.

H.M. That's fair enough, and I'll give you all

the time I can. I don't know why you want to stay so

long.

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HR. WHITE: I am not running that conference. I am
more or less an observer.

H.M.JR A meekly bulletin.

MR. WHITE: And there are a number of--sell, never

The reports seren't too good, do you agree?

A.M.JU: well, we understand.

of it.

Mis. O*CONNELL: I sent you an answer. We are doing
that right away. The Commissioner and--

H.M.Jh: 1 know.
mind.

Who WHITE: I mon't waste all of my time, just some

H.M.F.: I know, you never do. How, Ted?
WIL CAMBLE: I have nothing that can't wait.

H.M.JH: what else is there? I want to break the
story soon on some of that law enforcement stuff.
MR. O* CONNELL: Well--

N.R. O' CONSELL: Yes, but it's hard to--

H.M.JR: There's gold in them ther hills, though, and
you know it's two or three neeks since I asked them to
check on farmers. You know he told the while you were gone
that they went out on an R.F.D. route and found one-third
of the farmers were not paying any income tax, and I
haven't had any more reports.
VR. O'CONNELL I didn't even get that--two-thirds?

H.M.JH: In the one route they found one-third of
the farmers were not paying any income tax.
KR. O GONNEIL: I didn't know that.

H.M.Jh: Put some heat on.

all.

H.M.JH: Start in South Dakota or somewhere. This

His D* CONNELL: We'll do all T.C can.

fellow--

H.M.JK: Those reports weren't too good. I read them

MR. O'CONNELL: bushfield, that's where you should
have started. You started in New York.

MR. O*CONNELL: They'11 get better.

H.M.JR: well--

H.M.JR: You may need some new blood there.

MR. O'CONNELL: It was a Republican neighborhood.

MR. O*CONNELL: That's pretty hard. New blood is
hard to find.
H.M.JR: What about a blood transfusion or something?
Those reports weren't too hot.
MR. O'CONNELL: They were studies.

H.M.JRI Did you get my suggestion?

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H.M.JR: I picked a Republican neighborhood.
MR. WHITE: we couldn't get Mr. Green. When you come
back you'll have to get him. He is too much of & prima
donns.

H.M.JR: Harry, don't misunderstand what I said. I
an glad you are going. I wish you a good trip and I
don't mean a pleasure trip either.

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HMJr:

Mr. Robert

MR. WHITE: I sant to make it as much a pleasure

trip as 1 can. That's one reason I am going.
H.M.JR: And If I go to France in May--it's too
bad Joe never wrote up the report on London. (Laughter)

Patterson:

Hello.

HMJr:

Bob?

P:

Yes, sir,

HMJr:

McCloy - in the first place, may I thank you

for all the things you have done to make Elinor

11. WHITE: He has from now to May to do it.

comfortable

R.M.Jan Good bye, Harry.

I haven't done half enough.

P:

Mr. COE: can you take any more reading matter? These
are what I promised on China.

E.M.JR: what we want is a plan from War. 1 cien't
get Clayton.

5%rr
P:

HMJr:

MR. COE: I'll get him. I'll take care of it.
H.M.JR: Where are Fehle and Vias hodel?

Hello,

Well, what you have done I'- most grateful for.
Yes. Glad to do it.
Thank you, Bob. McCloy just called me and Mr.
Stimson anid you'd like to --- have you handle
this Japanese -- Chinese thing.

A11 right. No told not McCloy told no.

P:

HMJr:

Now what time Monday could Frank Coe - you know

Frenk Coat
P:

HMJr:

Yes.

.... come over and sorts bring you un to date on

1.7

P:

Any time Monday. A good time would be eleven o' clock.

HMJrs

He'11 come over nt 11 o' clock Monday.

P:

I'll be gind to see him.

MMJr:

Thank you. Then we can sort of get started.

P:

Then ve oan talk about it when you return.

HMJr:

That's right.

P:

Thank you, Henry.

HMJr:

Thank you.

P:

Good bye.

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HMJr:

HMJr:

Mr. Stimson wants Bob Patterson to handle this
thing with China, see?

C:

Mr. Coe:

oh, he does?

MMJr:

HMJr:

Yeah.

0:

Yeah. Yell, I think-- you go over there Monday
and see Patterson with John Carter Vincent.
Yes.

and bring him up to date, and talk about it.
All right. We'll have the first session with Pe1

Monday morning.
C:

HMJr:

Well, that's good. He in . good one.
Yeah, I sicked him. You are to go over there at
11 'clock Monday morning and see him.

C:

HMJr:
C:

HMJr:

Go over and see him at 11 Monday.
Yeah.

All right.
And my suggestion 1. that you take John Carter Vincent
with you.

C:

HMJr:
C:

And talk over the situation.
And talk it over with Patterson.

All right, I'11 do that.

HMJr:

Now, I don't know whether you vant to see this
fellow Pat before that or not.

C:

I think perhape - no. : think we can't very well.

HMJr:

You think you can't.

C:

Well we could early Monday morning.

HKJr:
C:

Why couldn't you see him early Monday morning?

All right. He hasn't rung. How did you leave him?
An I supposed to not in touch with him?

HMJr:
0:

HMJr
C:

Well, I would in view of the thing the way it --All right, all right. Now what are you coming back?
Tuesday or Wednesday.

Tuesday - well, I was asking because you wanted to
have the preliminaries over by the time you got back.

()

HMJr:

Right.

0:

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I'd like to talk to you.

HMJr:(cont.)
Hello.

A:

FMJr:

Fine I'd love to do it, Henry.

Operator:

Mr. Bill will not be at his office any more this
afternoon. Would you like for de to call his

HMJr:

Well, I know what President Truman wants me to

Operator:
MNJr:

Yes.

At

All right. I have Mr. Acheson.
All right.

HMJr:

Operator:

Go ahead.

HMJr:

Hello. Dean?

Mr. Dear
Acheson:

Yes, Henry.

HMJr:

I've been thinking of you but all of these follow
travelers on their way to San Francisco...
Yes.

A:

HMJr:

Fellow-trevelers. Did you get that's

A:

(Laughs) I do. They are not fellow-travelers of

HMJr:

Well, they're not of sind, but they have been
dropping in, and I'm leaving this afternoon to 50
to one Elinor.

Yes.

A:

HMJr:

HMJr:

You'11 be her??

HMJr:
A:

HMJr:

oh, I'11 be here. Ed told me that he had . talk
with you after the Cabinet
Yeah.

and worked out with you that will van going
to handle certain things directly with you, and
I think that will speed things up.

.....

Well, I hope 80. but I'd just like to have - oh, as
one friend to the other off the government payroll

affairs' things bothers no like hell.

And, you'11 be interested -- Mr. Hannegan was in
and assured THE very confidentially that Berry has
promised him that he will vote for Bretton Woods.

Ch. well, that's very good.

A:

HMJr:

Definitely. No if, and, or but--

A:

Yes.

EMJr:

So that's good.
Yes.

HMJr:

Dean, again I can't tall you how such I appreciate
--at Ombinet again I brought up the solendic cooperation that you have been giving us - yesterday.

Well, that's very kind of you. Ed told ne that you

A:

HKJr:

meal together, and I'11 be bock Tueeday or Wednesday.

I shall be delighted to do 11.

A:

HMJr:

When I come back I'll net you if ve can't have 8

A:

I'm delighted to hear that.
But what we are going to do on some of these foreign
Yes.

A:

A:

mine because I'm going to stay here.

do here. I'm all right. He has been very re-

assuring as for BE I'm concerned.

residence?

A:

had said that, and I appreciate it very much.
will I feel it and I wanted President Truman to know
it. When I know I'm coning back, I'11 have the office
get in touch with you.

Fine. I will be at your disposal whenever you want
to see me.

HMJr:
A:

FMJr:

Thank you 80 much.

All right, Henry. Give our love to Elinor.
I'll do that. Thank you.

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The two and one-half, '57-'72--that market has been
very strong since we announced that the banks could not
buy anything in the Seventh War Loan excent the one and

4:00 p.m.

one-half's, so we rave then authority to sell five million,
and they have not ten million on each account to sell

FINANCING

various tax-exempt issues.

Present: Mr. D. if. Bell
MR. BELL: ie have twenty-two billion dollars in
Government securities in the various trust accounts.
There are about thirt of them in number, and seventeen
billion of that is in special and non-marketable overations,
two percent special, and four billion six are in marketable
securities, and there 1s about a billion three--these are
the five accounts, and there are about twenty-five others
1 didn't tick un because they are miscellaneous business,
one billion two hundred and sixty-eight million in taxexempt issues in these three accounts, and those two,
think, are the only ones that are ought to consider.
I

H.M.JR: These two?

MR. BELL: Yes, because me have the Government life

Insurance fund a special rate of three and one-half percent
with the understanding they would not sell marketable
securities.
N.H.JR: Just these two?
MR. BELL: Yes, those two, and we have that such in
marketable securities on the taxable issue.
Here is what we have done, sold one hundred and fiftyone million dollars in securities since January 1 from
those two accounts. it have sold ninety-one million of
taxable and sixty million tax-exeart, which is pretty good,
and the market today, In fact for the week, has been kind

of dead.

This is what they have not, an authorization to sell
five million each in Federal deposits and savings and two
percent bonds '52-'54 taxable, and that cleans up those (20.

H.M.JR: Let's tell then this next week that If the
market is at all strong I would like them to sell for
postal savings twenty Million each.

MR. BELL: Twenty million each! They CALD push that.
They CAD do that just as the market rets good.

I.M.JK: Next week If there is any opportunity. This
1 will give the HIRL. (Hands reporter "Pending Authorization,"
copy attached.)
=

Anything else?

JR. BELL: Here is socethiar to TO to the President
with his withholding taxes. (Hands Secretary "Memorandum
to the President, copy attached.)

H.M.J.: lie ought to sign it and send It back.
(S1 ms meno.)

All right?
MR. BELL: Yes.

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FENDING AUTHORIZATIONS

Issues

2% Treasury Bonds of 1952-54
2-1/2% Treasury Bonds of 1967-72
Various tax-exempt issues.

O

Postal Service

Fed. Dep.Ins. Corp.

$5,000,000

$5,000,000

5,000,000

5,000,000

10,000,000

10,000,000

$20,000,000

$20,000,000

to TO PRESIDENT

There is transmitted herewith for your signature
Form was Revised, Employee's Withholding Exemption Certifi-

ente. which should be filed in accordance with the provisions of the Individual Income Tax Act of 1944

It would be amoreisted if you will return the
certificate to - when 11 to everlated so that appropriate
action may be taken is connection with the segment of your
salary.

The President's salary to sale monthly on the Last
day of each month by check of the Transiter of the

United States, based - a certificate of settlement
leased by the General Accounting office.

JAWoodsen/se 4/20/45

XYarteIt:hbv 4/21/45

-2MISS BOOKL: Ne have reservations to to by air Sunday

April 21, 1948

night, but yesterday after he had gotten clearance from
you for my absence for six days, he decided that he didn't
want to risk the chance of going out there at the last
minute, and he decided that he would rather use the train
reservations which he had. and he wants to have a period
to rest un and work this thing out with ite. Going by train
a few days in advance would mean 1 will be from the
office nine working days. I have a reservation by plane

4:35 T.M.
WAR REFUNEE BOARD

Present: lr. Peble

liss Hodel
Mrs. Elote

back.

H.M. The point la this: 1 as tied un doing other

..... Hello, Hiso Bodel. Talk fast, will you

people's work. It is nothing personal, but I as not roing
to do It any more. the telegrached as asking If he could
take you for a week, and I said yes. Now he wants you to

please. on why you want to TO, and why the General wants

you to no?

no for two weeks, and If something should harmen down here,

VISS MODEL: Be wants me to TO because the meetings

are being held by the United Jewish Helfare Fund of Los
Angeles, which supports the JDC and the Palestine Anneal
Unit of the refuree service. The JDC people in less York
are anxious for the General to to because they feel his
presence there, and a sneech from him telling for the first
time some of the work of the war Refuree Board and what the
will enable then to paise about two million dollars.
did
JDC
They have . larre member of Tours there who are interested

in this work and particularl the work of the JDC. the

JDC meople in New York and the General, too. seen to feel

that in this informal TOUP that will be meeting before the
large meetines questions will be raised on the work that
has been done in the past, and the General is very unsure
of himself with respect to that. That's with be wants me,
because he says I an the only one around here that knows
about all those things. 1 know in detail what the JOC

has been doing.

H.N.J Oh.
MISS RODAL: In the last few days he has been protty

involved in political stuff that in roine on in New York,
and he wants to take the time to actually forget everything in New York and really work on this thing and do n
good job for them.

(

.M.JR: why can't you to by air?

you don't know what, both you and O'Dayer are away. I an
tired, too, but it doesn't make sense, Miss Model. I mean,
don't see way the two of you--you not mriority three,

don't you?
1

MISS HOURI: , have melority three coming back, but he
not somebody in New York to make reservations roing out
for Sunday night. and we checked on it and it is marked
"no priority, and he and nervous.

Holder You can not " criority. Charles Bell will

net you one.

NR. KLOTE: T think, from what Miss nodel has told me,

that he doesn't want to TO by air. Le in afraid--

VISS ROOEL: Yesterday afternoon he not nervous about

roin at zuen . late date.

13. PERLE: Be could not rounded
LISS LOOKL: They are building this un so big.

...... then?
MISS EOUEL: Say 1 and 2, one night in Los Angeles to
. larme Toup, and one might in Hollywood.

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H.M.JR: You are starting Sunday?

MISS HODEL: Tuesday night, if we go by train, and
next Sunday night if we go by plane.

13. Pall: se'll settle it, Mr. Secretary. You

for er about it.

H.M.JHI You decide. It doean't make sense to me.
Do you want to run the thing two weeks while she is
gone? You are leaving on a vacation May 1st. I really
shouldn't be bothered about this.

To make . two-day speech he takes Miss
Model out of here for two weeks.

10. PEALE: 40 can work that out.

MISS HODEL: I don't think you should.

H.M.JH: It's your responsibility.

H.M.JR: You settle it.

MISS RODEL: Five thousand Jews, Danish and Norwerian
JONE have just been released into Sweden. And and . result
of negotiations IT th Count Bernadotte, sixtrenine Jewish
refurees arrived In Switzerland from Czechonlovakin, and

MR. PEHLE: We will settle it.
H.M.J.H If, while they are gone, something comes
up I an not going to do it, and they come back and cry
on ay shoulder. I'll do It anyway, and 1 don't think it's
fair to me. It's just dama nonsense.

all of the War refuree food parcels stocked in have
mone into Germany.

... I fill THEY emphatic today because I feel that--

this has nothing to io with you. T know you are not look-

MISS HODEL: I didn't make the request of you, Mr.

Secretary. I realize--

H.M.JR: It's dams nonsense, because If somethin
breaks and goes wrong--I told John to TO away the first

of May--I'll be here and I an going to have to do it, and
1 am not going to do it. This man doesn't mean anything

in forward to it. Anythine I say in no was refers to you,

1

but I realize YOU are workIn for this san and you are In a
mosition there you have to try to please him. low, John is
Assistant to the Secretar of the Treasury and I have
delected the authority to him. It won't be your decision,
but John is 0 touch may, and he doesn't care.

to me. It's dams nonsense.

1 think it's the most childish thing I ever heard
of.

MR. PEHLE: Leave it to me, I'll settle it.
H.M.JR: In order that the fellow can rest--you are
the only person left. When is this speech?
MISS HODEL: May 1st and 2nd.

H.M.JH: It's the craziest thing I have ever heard
of. he's childish. Unless Pehle overrules me, and he
has that privilege, you go by air. You have ample time
to et priorities 3 and Charles Bell can get them out of
the white House. It's ridiculous.

19. POLLE: I'll take care of it.
.J.: It is in no WAY directed at you, but suppose
something breaks, what do I do: I'm carrying the ball.

have enourh to do.

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begine
My dear Mr. Meyer:

There were two reasons why this morning's
issue of The Washington Post appealed to ae
especially

One was the editorial on the Seventh War
Loan. The other was the editorial on Bretton
Boods.

Both editorials are well written. In each
case, the writer knew his subject. And the result, in both cases, will be very helpful.

for of inI appreciate very such the recognition by

sta-

attained hope

In which war finance

bility, The telligent an Post era aust that way be peaceful monetary, development. the and If problem general the world of economic And is to the

is presented is in line with the active support

The Post has given the Treasury in past Far Loan

grives.

Please accept my thanks for The Post in the

case of both editorials. And will you be so kind
as to pass along to the writers -- or writer -- of
the two editorials, ay appreciation?
Sincerely,
EARTY

Mr. Eugene Meyer

Editor and Publisher

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ROLL NO.

Wednesday, May 16, New York City: Evening meeting

with Te: Executive Institute Incorporated,
at which perhaps 100 high-ranking corporation

officials will be present. An off-the-record
discussion.

demorandum FOR THE SECRETARY

Friday, May 18. Buffalo Chamber of Commerce: On-

From: Mr. Blough

the-record speech at luncheon meeting. There
will probably be 400 or more present at this

(No action required, but would like you to read)

meeting.

Mr.

In harmony with a policy approved by you and
Geston, I have participated
in a number
of offwith individuals
and groups

postwor taxation as

on
ject conferences
of and planning I
to the-record
continue the
thissub
practice.
In the discussions,
FO into the ways we are endeavoring to develop

postwar tax program. I also inlignte the problems
faced and neck to get factual inform ion and ooinione bearing on them. My impression 10 that these
conferences have been successful and uneful from

our point of view.
The following additional conferences are
scheduled:

Wednesday, April 25, New York City: Interviews
with financial and other editore of the Times,
Hereld-Tribune, and the Wall Street Journal.
Thursday, April 26, New York City: Luncheon meeting with the New York University Men in

Finance. An off-the-record talk and discussion.

Thursday, May 10, Cincinnati, Ohio: Luncheon with
representative businessmen and community

leaders. An off-the-rcord discussion.

As you will observe only the Buffalo meeting
involves on on-the-record talk. Mr. Gaston and
both felt that it was very desirable to accept this
invitation. I hope to discuss the subject matter
of this talk with you at your early convenience.

Roy Blough

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Dear Bebs

It is with sleasure that 1 nov write to

Dear Charley:

concentuated you unon your repointment as Density

My heartiest congratulations! But the
President, and the newspaper men and women,

and the radio and movie people, who serve as
contacts between the White House and the public,

are the ones who really deserve to be congratulated, as you move into your new post.

It is always a matter of personal gratification for ne to see a friend of long standing

Director for 1 know the office
of that office will be ably administered under
your direction. and 1 and you best vishes as

you this - your nev daties.
with certifical personal regards,

get the recognition he Sesserves. And when that
recognition means for you an opportunity to
serve in a new and breader field -- and keeps
you in Washington besides -- I could not ask for

Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

more.

Meanwhile I hope you have a pleasant time

in San Francisco. I know you will do a good
job on your last newspaper assignment for the
time being -- and thereafter in whatever assign-

Mr. labort 3. Methon,
Dentity Director for Inconversion,

office of Veg lebilientime - Inconvervies,
D. O.

ments may be given you.
Sincerely,
Jr.

(stement)

Mr. Charles G. Ross
117 Kennedy Drive
Chevy Chase, Maryland
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Fred M. Vinson, Director of War Mobilisation
and Reconversion, today announced the appointment of Robert

R. Nathan as Deputy Director for Reconversion Mr. Nathan
was forcerly Chairman of the Mar Production Board's Planning
Committee. 10g left the Mar Production Board in 1943 to enter
the army as a private, and subsequently received a medical
discharge.

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Dear Mr. Vanderpoel:

Your column of April 17 is one of the best of
your many splendid contributions. I say this, not

merely because of the compliments you pay ae. which
I greatly appreciate, but because you have stated
so clearly and succinctly the purpose of the Treasury
both in war financing and in satters of general

policy. That, it seens to ne, is a type of interpretative reporting that is desirable at all times. It
is of particular importance now, with the Seventh ar

Loan about to be launched.

it is but your

The public deserves to know not only WAT is
being cone in the reala of public finance, and HOW

being done, also MUY. And evident

purpose has always been to give this Information.

I thank you for the kindly references to us.
and even acre for the effect that your column will
have in furthering good relations between the Treasury
and the public at large.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthav, Jr.

Mr. Robert P. Vanderpoel

Financial Editor

Chicago Erald-American
326 West Madison Street

Chicago, Illinois
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Tip to Truman. Eye
MorgenthauPtecord
By Robert P. Vanderpock
Financial Editor

The "hatchet boys" already have been busy. They
have been operating on the President's cabinet with great

gusto. This member and that is so go, but quick and so
forth

Undoubtedly there will be changes. It is only natural

that there should be. But most of the "inside dope" that
WC have had thus far represents either wishful thinking

or guessing effort to beat the game.

For example, we of the poison pen brigadeMor-

from Washington

Friend of Roosevel
Henry

the

World War I exceeds
received

fair

Fair, 85 Pct. Admit

No One Has Lost

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

compares the restricted Sixth War Loan

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

2-1/2's of 1966-71 with the unrestricted
2-1/2's of 1967-72, which were issued be-

DATE April 21, 1945

fore Pearl Harbor:

Secretary Vorgenthau

TO

FROM

April 2

Mr. Has

Subject The Government Security Market and the Pricing of
the Seventh War Loan Issues

In response to your request, this memorandum has been
prepared to compare the estimated premiums on the Seventh

War Loan issues now and at the time the maturi ties were

Change

2-1/2's of 1966-71

101.09

100.31

-.10

2-1/2's of 1967-72

102.13

103.19

+1.06

by the fact that, with the elimination of
the 2 percent bond from the Seventh War
Loan basket, banks have sought to buy the

during this period, and the second section takes up the
effect of the market changes on the pricing of the Seventh
War Loan securities.

unrestricted 2-1/2 percent issues before
the supply in the market runs out. The re-

stricted issues, on the other hand, will

I. Market Movements Since Your Announcement

again be available in unlimited amounts in

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the Seventh War Loan.

II. The Pricing of the Seventh
War Loan Issues

At the time you placed maturities on the new issues
(April 2), we estimated their approximate premiums, based
on the then market, as follows:
12/32
1-1/2's of 12/15/50
2-1/4's of 6/15/59-62 19/32
2-1/2's of 6/15/67-72 16/32

(2 percent) area have advanced on the average about 15/32; and these issues are now

selling at all-time highs.
(3) Prices of the long-term restricted 2-1/2's,

Since that time the outstanding issues most closely
approximating the ones to be issued in the Seventh War
Loan have changed in price as follows:

on the other hand, have declined on the
average about 7/32 since the close on
April 2.

(4) Prices of the unrestricted 2-1/2's have
moved up sharply in contrast to the movement of the restricted bonds. This is 11lustrated in the following table which

April 20

Note: Decimals are thirty-seconds
This sharp difference is presumably caused

announced. The first section analyzes market movements

of the Maturities of the Seventh for Loan Issues
Since your announcement, after the close on April 2.
of the as turities of the marketable issues to be offered
during the Seventh War Loan, the price behavior of Govern=
ment securities has been mixed. Movements, classified by
maturity areas, fall into four well-defined groups:
(1) Prices of bonds in the short-term area -about three years -- have risen only
slightly (about 2/32).
(2) Prices of bonds in the intermediate-tera

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1-1/2 percent area:
21a of 9/15/50-52

Secretary Morgenthau - 4

2-1/2 Percent Issue. The out tanding issue most closely
resembling the 2-172 Feent bond to be issued in the Seventh
War Loan declined 10/32. About 4/32 of this decline can be
explained, however, by the interest "run-off" characteristic
of 2-1/2 percent restricted issues, which was allowed for in
the original pricing. Our estimate of the theoretical premium on the new 2-1/2 percent issue, based on the market
April 2, was 16/32. on the basis of the market yesterday,
we would reduce this estimate to about 10/32.

+13/32

2-1/4 percent area:
2-1/4's of 9/15/56-59 +18/32
2-1/2's of 6/15/62-67 -2/32
2-1/2 percent area:

2-1/2's of 3/15/66-73 -10/32

Summary. The following table compares the estimated

1-1/2 Percent Issue. The first of the issues listed

above -- which most closely approximates the 1-1/2 percent
bond to be issued in the Seventh War Loan -- has risen
13/32 since April 2. If our estimate of the premium on
the new issue were to be increased correspondingly, it
high
would be 25/32, based on yesterday's market. Such
prospective premium will put quite a strain on the polioing mechanism and it will be desirable to watch develop-

premi USA on the Seventh War Loan issues. based on yesterday's
market,
with those of
based
on the market immediately preceding
the announcement
maturities:
Estimated Premiums

April 20

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2-1/4 Percent Issue. The 2-1/4 percent bond to be
offered in the Seventh War Loan falls between the two

middle issues in the preceding list. It should be noted
that the restriction on the outstanding issue which rose
18/32 has less than 18 months still to run: while the restriction on the outstanding issue which fell 2/32 still has
about seven years to run. The new issue will also be restricted for about seven years, and it appears a reasonable
supposition, therefore, that its behavior, if it had been
outstanding, would have more closely approximated that of
the outstanding issue with the longer restriction. The
would, therefore, retain substantially unchanged our
original estimate of the premium on the new issue (19/32).
This, of course, is a theoretical premium which any
partly be *eaten up" by market adjustments as the WAT
loan effective date approaches. This issue, and the

2-1/21s, will be available in unlimited supply, ac it will
be difficult to maintain a large premium; whereas the
1-1/2's should hold a good sized premium because of the
small amount of the issue and the potential large bank
demand after the drive.

1-1/2's of 12/15/50
2-1/41 of 6/15/59-62
2-1/2's of 6/15/67-72

12/32

25/32
19/32
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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

for payment to the Bank of China, New York Agency. As might be

DATE

April 21, 1945
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Coe YC

expected it has been found that most of the leading political
figures in China have not purchased certificates in their own
names or, at least, have not purchased certificates in their own

names which have been presented for payment. It was found,
however, that a small group of purchasers accounted for the great
bulk of the total purchased and that among the largest purchasers
are organizations and individuals intimately connected with some

Subject: Purchases of $200 Million of Chinese U. S. Dollar
Savings Certificates and Bonds

of China's leading political figures.
4. An analysis of $43 million of certificates which have

1. In March, 1942, without prior consultation with the U. S.

Treasury, The Chinese announced the sale of $200 million of U. S.
dollar savings certificates and bonds by the Chinese Government

been presented for payment reveals that 86 individuals or organizations or less than 2 percent of the total purchasers accounted
for about $28 million or about 70 percent of the total. These
86 persons and organizations each purchased $100,000 or more of
the certificates.

at official rates. During the period of time during which these
issues were sold the prevailing market rates were from two to five
times the official rates. At present these certificates and bonde
can be sold for more than 15 times their original purchase price.

5. Because of the difficulties involved in the identification of Chinese names it has not yet been possible to identify
all of the principal purchasers in terms of whom they actually
represent. There is attached hereto however, a list of prin-

The Treasury has always suspected that top Chinese Government

officers were among the principal beneficiaries of these issues,
particularly as a result of the manner in which they were sold.
"hus, of the $100 million of certificates a total of $50 million
was sold between April 1942 and June 1943. During the last few
days of July, however the equivalent of $50 million were sold
of which about $30 million were purchased in Chungking in the
last three days of sale.

cipal purchasers who have been identified with comments indicating the individual whom they probably represent.

It will be noted that organizations or persons intimately

connected with Dr. T V. Soong purchased $4.4 million of the
certificates; K. P. Chen, $4.1 million, and H. H. Kung, $1.4
million. Moreover the Ambassador to the United States. Dr.
Wei Tao-ming had purchased about $134,000 K. C. Li about
$189,000, and the Minister of Food, Hsu Kan, $124,000. Organizations controlled by Tu Yueh-seng. the notorious underworld
gangeter leader had purchased more than $400,000 of these certificates and organizations and individuals intimately connected
with Lung Yung, Governor of Yunnan Province and one of the
leading militarists of China, had purchased nearly $370,000
of these certificates.

2. The history of the sale of the $100 million of 10 year

bonds was, if anything even more spectacular and more suspicious.
Thus, between April 1942 and October 18, 1943 only about $11 million or about 1/9 of the bond issue was sold. On October 12,
however, a leak took place that the government was about to close
its sale of these bonds and by October 15 three days later
the government had sold out the remainder of the $100 million
issue. Both Adler and Friedman were informed by Anbassador Gause
that he, Ambassador Gauss, had it from a highly reliable source
that Madame Chiang Kai-shek and Madame Kung had between them

what purchased
$50 million
of these
bonds.
This
storyinjibes
with of
ve know about
the sale
of most
of the
issue
a period
three days.

3. In the case of the short-term certificates, we have

more exact and detailed evidence than in the case of the bonds
since about 1/2 of the $100 million have already been presented

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Purchasers
Purchasers

Bank of China
Bang How

Comments

Amount

& 642,053
257,697

Chung Yuan Paper Ma.

Controlled by T. V. Soong

Consercial Bank of China

Central Trust Company

Chis-ngau and link between the two interists.

Dah this Cotton Spinning

Bank of Communication

115,006

India office

1,289,841

204,428

Representative of Matheson in
Controlled by Teang Chien-bui, C. Tsang's

103,022

Controlled by K. 7. Hu, Saechuan Corp.

Heainan Railway & Co.

126,778

Government concern.

Brantan Rad lway Co.

128,778

Government concern.

Eung, Rosanond

151,443

Dr. H. H. Dung's eldest daughter.

Funding Bank

103,022

Controlled by Governor Lung Yung.

Lee Dong Quan

262,498

and friendly to K, P. Chen.

11, K. c.

188,779

President of Wah Chang Trading Company.

Controlled by E. 2. Ha, leading Stechman

Mas 1. T.

264,984

General Manager of Fukien Bank in Kunnings

Nanyang From. Tobacco

171,017

113,530

chuan Industrial Corp., formerly subsidiary

Assistant Vanager of Central Trust, manager
of Tangtae Trading Corporation, a business

confidant of the Kung family.

104,258

A trading subsidiary of Shanghai Consercial
Bank controlled by K. P. Chen, the most

this Hain Cenent 4 Co.

Perhape Chang Nai-chi, President of Shang=
of Shanghai Commercial Bank. Changhai

Chira Automotive Co.

561,472

109,296

Controlled by Dr. H. 11. Kung

295,427

Controlled by Dr. H. H. Kung

Foh Sing Flour 1111

154,533

451,411

177,121

Chira.

Private bank owned by T. V. Soong,
actively managed by his brother T.A.Soong.
Insurance done unually with overseas Chin 11.

Convercial Bank is controlled by K. P. Chen.

Chekiang Industrial

Controlled by To Tueb-seng - faced leader
of Shanghai underworld, confidant of

noney-saking concern of all K. P. interests
chiefly deals in salt and other commidities.
Dah Yeb Trading Co.

Bank of Canton, San

Chao, G. H.

309,066

Government concern

Generalissimo.

(Subsidiary of Shanehai Consert al Bank):
leading stockholder, Commercial Press.
confident of both K. P. Chen and Chang

Controlled by Dr. 11. H. Kung

Chang, N. C.

0 309,067

Chairman of Board, China Assurance Corp.

Controlled by T. V. Soong

Central Bank of China

Comments

Amount

Vice-President, Universal Trading Corp.

Bank of Chima, Burma Agency 107,081

Francisco

142

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2:pess purchasers of U. S. doller RAVIDLE Meater

Controlling interest in the hands of IS ling,

brother financially linked with K.P. Chen.

D

who is closely associated with Chang Fai-agau

capitalist.

China Development

690,220 A holding company controlled by T. V. Soong

China Insurance Co.

349,911

Chica Products Trade

200,221

Controlled by 7. L. Soong

China Sugar Refining

154,518

A gubsidiary of the Bank of China which is
controlled by T. v. Soong.

Citu Hain Chan Bank

149,371

The leading bank of Saedhuan landlords and
financiers known as Yang brothers to

A subsidiary of the Bank of China which is
controlled by T. V. Soong.

foreigners.

Changhai Commercial Bank

General manager of Pah-Yeh Trading Corp.

and one of K. P. Chen's chief lieutenants.

one of Gen. Lung Yung's chief lieutenants.

1,088,193

Controlled by T. 7. Soong.
K. P. Chen's bank.

Shasi Cotton Spinning

103,022

Controlled by Tu Yumb-seng, Shanghai
underworld leader.

Sun Patrick

103,804

Son of Dr. Sun Fo, Pres. of Legislative Yuan.

-3Purchasers

Sung Sing Cotton 111

$ 697,915

Controlled by Teang Chien-huni, C. Trang's

brother, financially tied up with T.P.Chen.

Soong, T. A.

228,105

One of the Snong brothers, who is clonest

Teang, C.

963,890

K. P. Chen's confidential secretary and one

Tung, C. L.

123,627

Vice Chairman of Foreign Trade Commission,

Universal Trading

1,332,103

April 21, 1945

Committee

Amount

to 7. V. Soong.

of his most trusted lieutenants in the U.S.
close to Hau Kan, Minister of Food.

2 dear ar. President:
1 as leaving this afternoon to

a few with is Daytona.
On return
would opporto talk 1
you
spend tunity as days with appreciate about wife at the an future

economic treatment of Germany.

government concern.

Yours sincerely,

Wei Taceting

133,929

Ashassador to the United States.

Yangtae Trading Corp.

334,823

Controlled by Kung family

Yu Foong Cotton will

126,785

Subsidiary of Bank of China controlled

Yu Ya Ching

103,022

You Hwa Coemercial

175,130

Dr. Kung's private bank

ine President,

Yu lbva Cotton Spinning

370,880

A subsidiary of Bank of Ordina which is

las inite LOUSE.

(Signed) Beart Morgenthas, 2

by T. V. Soong.
Former President of Shanghai Chamber of

Commerce, close friend of Generalissimo

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controlled by T. V. Soong.

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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE April 1, IME

In no event small any differentiation be made
between or special consideration be accorded to
persons arrested, either un to manner of arrest
or conditions of detention, Loon the basis of

Secretary urgene for information)

TO

FROM

wealth or political, diplomatic, industrial, or

T. DOE FY

other rank or position.

HDM
devised spafis of the colltical, esamelic, an financial

2. Economic Directive

directives on Dermany have been completed.

The basic point of difference between Treasury and the
other agencies In the economic directive concerns the question
of the imposition of controls on the Cersan economy. State
and other agencies are sent upon requiring our military forces
to exercise widespread controls over the German economy. de

c 1310 10000000 - seletial #016 objectionable povisive to
is the revised directives, out there recain several providions
vice 1 feel to the 10 00.001 10 the Sington Committee. THERE
provisions SPN the following:

have taken the position that this is completely inconsistent
with the President's Directive and that In general the administration and responsibility for such controls should be left

1. Political
The last to sentence of Paragraph 0 (arrent of sale
and others) GOM 2650 LE follows:

1: i the light of condit out valor 310 encounter

in you relieve test certain persons within

these categorics should not on subjected immediately
to this treatment, you SCORIO Report our . shops
the
AGC 2000 enotions to the Joint Miefs of staff.

Relieve 11 desireste, MAY postoons

arrest 01 tause CILEGO have reporter.
The weerecorec sentence inserted at Line request of the and
seens quits objectionalo to US. This provision would certification
persons additional within tiue calegorica receiped to to it
spreated to realin at large pencils determination as
Whether the cesseVo special consiceration. allow provision

our casil DC abozed to protect profiled

therefore,
persocalities
in

the colitical and Injustrial lice of C,

urge that the sentence in question be celeice.

Coreover, in GROW to ensure that soccial FAVOR is not
granted to persons like APROA and von Paper, 10 of Line
addition of the following non sintence at the end
Paragraph :

to the Germans themselves.

$

For example, the State Department insists upon a provision
which would result in the immediate imposition by the Cousander
vent of widespread
'inflation.
controls
economy
order to
...e
on one this
position
and areinsuggesting
alternative provisions which WOULD nake clear (1) that controls
of wages, prices, etc., are only to be imposed in exceptional

over the German pre-

circuittances, and (4) that the question of control of inflation
in the initial period is to be left entirely to the Germans
with the specification that if inflation assumes such proportions

as to endang or the objectives of occupation, the Commander is
to report that fact to Washington with his recommendations for
action.

Our position regarding control of inflation is based on

the following:

(1) It will be an inconsible task for the Aray to control
inflation in Germany and it would be A distinct disservice to
the Army to impose upon it a responsibility which it cannot
successfully discharge without reconstructing the German economy.

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--(2) There in no evidence that price chance will
seriously interfere with the objectives of Military occupation, such an reparations, etc.

Accordingly, Le should urge that the words "or for
other purposes be deleted from Paragraph 7(a), and that
German external assets be held exclusively for peparation
or restitution.

(3) The German people have a greater interest in pre-

venting inflation than be do; Line alone can tackle the

job, and it should be left entirely to them. If TO to
control inflation is German it will become the patriotic

to

duty of Germans to subotage our efforts.

3. Financial Directive

(a) Paragraph 6(o) of this directive also is an inflation

control device union is objectionable for the PERSONS incipated
above. This paragraph taken the military Commander responsi le

for assuri 10 reconstruction of the Corran tax and fiscal

system. ae propure that this paragraph be deleted from the
directive.

(b) Paragraph 7(a) provides for the seizure of all
German external assets. Under the provision as it now stands,
these assets are to 00 4200 for peparation, restitution,
"or for other purposes. State Department, over our objection,
insisted upon the Inclusion of the words *01 for other purposes"

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with a view to assuring that German external assets are used

as partial payment for supplies which they any se will inevitably
have to send into Germany. It is our position that this sup005 00 financial advantage is completely Illusory. The United
States already has claims against Germany for war costs, etc.,

which far exceed any amount 100 can possibly obtain as reparations

out of Cereany's external assets. Accordingly, it is herely
self-deception to suggest that there is any financial pain in
using Certain resources which are alrendy ours by virtue of
existing claims to DAY for LOOKS to be delivered to Germany

during the control period. ....preover, the application of

German assets to this purpose say well serve to Increase the

ultimate financial loss of this Government, since the fact that
se suparently would be receiving partial payment for good
furnished would be used as an argument for giving the Germann
additional goods. It would be such better to make clear to
Congress that if 110 furnish goods to Germany We are doing so
entirely at our expense.

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April 21, 1945
12:30 p.m.

visit from baruch

and 9 report waich be is going to give the President.
asked whether 1 could see it, and be didn't any yes or no.
ae's convinced that there should be a group of State.
Treasury

I

D. 4. paruca case to see ae at 12:30. ne told me
that be net with the war Cabinet, and that they asked
him now be stooo on the worgentrau Plan, and be said the
aorgenthau Plan ARE all right, but be was much tougher

har,

save

and

red

to

handle

reparations

and

staller questions. we was talking about San rosennan for

other

secretary of this group. said That is all right, but I
are kind of surprised that can wants us to open up the German
coal mines. AND as said, "les, they have to. said,

tean korgentnau.

no told as of the argument as DBC with Churchill and
the others about de-inquairializing Germany. According to

non acout getting It from england

paruch, Churchill la still doubtful and the thing that is

worrying them is aussia. they can't make up their minds
whether they want a strong Germany to oppose Russis, or
whether they don't. are saic we used the argument with then

he

said,

"I

know

that is Life any you feel, out. Henry, you' arong on that.'
the said, The engilan can't do it because the even
have to get coal from Germany, well, I'm still not convincea that that is right, but went along with him on San

business you'll get. And, of course. that was the argument

hosenman because 1 think that they could do a lot worse.
1 gather that is want he is pusning.

amongst the english Cacinet members on reparations, but
DRPUCH Lave them 8 great sales talk on now England could
recover at the expense of Germany. ne seemed very sincere,

baruch sale further that be tried to encourage England
and the english people looking forward after V-E Day and
give them more confidence in themselves. 1 again say that
be certainly seemed to be friendly to me, and 1 suppose the

that if you de-incustrialize vermany - look at all the

used. and to the ceat of if memory. told then about It
after cuebec. gather also that there is great muddle

and this time his mind as clear. I really believe the man

reason
is that this time 4t feels that he and 1 are on the
same
track.

LE said to ne, " don't see now you can go ahead al th
creitor woods watil the reparations question is settled.
out as masn't near as positive accout It as the as before

that since /resident noosevelt's death that Clayton had
turned . somersaul for the worse on reparations. And the
old man got fire In his eyes and said that If Clayton doesn't
because nImself, he'a going to cut his heart out and drive
him out o: washington.

went

to

england.

we

alc

any

tale

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be

that

the

anglish

aere

worried about the election coming us immediately after V-E
Day, that bretton woods might be harmful to them. So be
questioned me very closely as to now long pretton woods would
take to 1855, and said at least another 30 days in the house.
and then maybe two or three months in the Senate. the said,

"Oh, that all right, that's all right. ne said the critish

election would be out of the way. In other words, before be
left be wanted to postpone wretten HOODS until the reparations
question was settled and now he's willing to postpone pretton

woods until the english election is over. 1 can't help but
cose to the conclusion that be can't be very strong for
bretton goods, although be salo be ass. me's always looking
for some excuse to postpone it. And the idea that ae should
postjone it in order to wait until the election in Great
critain Is over is just damn nonsense to me. a evidently

On.

yes,

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means what be saja. it claimed that be wants to devote all
of his time to solving this German question.

told

him

that

if

boys

had

told

ne

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vermany
andthe
thatscenes.
as was one of the real advocates working
for It bening

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DATE APR 21 1945

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Miss Hodel

The following information has just been received
1. 5,000 Danish and Norwegian Jews arrived in
Sweden April 18th from Germany. Their release from German concentration campa is
the result of special negotiations conducted
by Count Bernadotte, President of the Swedish
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Mr.

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For your information
Re: Dutch lend-lease agreement.

in cables from Stockholm and Bern:

2.

Secretary Morgenthau

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69 Jewish refugees arrived in Switzerland
April 19th. They case mainly from Bratislava.
The stock of Ver Refugee Board parcels in

Goteburg has been exhausted with the shipment

on April 16th of 140,000 parcels to Lubeck

Hodel

On April 20 the State Department handed to the Dutch 8
proposed lend-lease agreement under section 3(o) of the Lendlease Act. This agreement and the accoupanying papers were
practically identical to the lend-lease agreement signed by
the Delgians this week.
is in the Belgian agreement, the Lutch agreement contains
only one schedule. This schedule totals $242,000,000, and
does not contain articles having a long production cycle and

a long life. It will be understood that such items will not be
iven to the Dutch under Section 3(c) but if procured in the
United States mist be paid for in cash or through other means

of financin. The schedule applies only to Metropolitan
etherlance. In a craft letter from the Secretary of State

to the Metherlands Aubessador, accompanying the agreements,
reference is made to the fact that the agreements conteaplate
reciprocal aid from the Metherlands East indies but that no

straight lens-lease is included at the present time for the

Betherlands East Indien. At our request, the letter WILE toned down

so that it could not sound like an Invitation to the Dutch to

request a lend-lease program for the Betherianos East Indies
immediately after the signing of this agreement.

it in assumed that if the nerotiations do not result in
any substantial departures from the Belgian battern, the Treasury
should not object to the signature of the agreement.

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Mr. White

April 21, 1945

Secretary Morgenthau
Jr. White

1 are appending below the changes in the bill which in

to judgment we could accept without significant harm to the

While I not gone, I TOULS suggest that you

look to r. Luxford to substitute for be in the

functioning of the Fund and Bank and without significant

responsibility of following through on Bretton
Woods matters. Sir. Feltus has charge of the
public relations aspects of retton Woods,
r. Bernstein of technical Repeats of speecing,
selection and preparation of witnesses and

effect on the chances of adoption of the Agreement by other
countries.

drafting of tecinical letters. etc. r. Connell

Under Part 1 I 521 including those items which we can

takes care of arrangements on the 111.

very readily accept. Unier Part II I an including those

That's how we have been operating and I think
that each of then understands what are is responsi=

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suggested changes which 1 think we ought to accept reluctantly

Jr. O'Connell and L.F. Luxford are seeing
Mr. Wolcott this afternoon (I arranged meeting)
to find out what happened at the conference which

and only If essential to get Welcott's support.

Wolcott had with Burgess.

cepted which involve mondments to the Agreement itself.

It is understood, of course, that no changes will be ac-

I 0.13 appending to remorenate which Aves my

All the changes are those that would be incorporated only

detailed views on the proposed compromise.

in our own legislation and will not modify any of the provisions in the Articlea of Agreement.
Part I

1. i new section is to be added, entitled "STABILIZATION
LOANS BY THE RATE": (this La the substance of recommendations
by the CED)

"Sec. 18. If the management of the Bank does

not interpret Its powers under the Articlea of
Agreement U.S. authorizing the Bank to make or
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general policies established by the Council. Except
as otherwise provided in section 5 of this Act, the
Council is hereby authorized, through the governor
and executive director to give or refuse the approval,
consent, or agreement of the United States whenever,
under the Articles of Agreement of the Fund or the
Bank, such approval, consent or agreement of the
United States is required before any act may be
done by the Fund or the Bank, respectively. No
governor or executive director representing the
United States shall, without prior consultation
with the Council, vote in favor of any waiver of
conditions under Article V. section 4 or in favor
of any Leclaration of the United States dollar as
A scarce currency under Article VII, section 3. of
the Articles of Agreement of the Fund.'

-2guarantee loans for programs of economic and monetary

reconstruction which may include long-term stabilizetion loans, the governor and executive director of
the Pank appointed by the United States are hereby
directed to propose and support an amendment to the

Articles
of Agreement
the consultation
for the purposewith
of explicitly
thorizing
Bank, after
the
Fund, to make or guarantee such loans. The Council
is hereby authorized and directed to accept such
emendment on behalf of the United States.

2. Section 0 is assended to read as follows:
"ORTAINING AND FURNISHING INFORMATION*

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"Sec. 9. So long as the United States is a
member of the Fund, the President may require at
any time, in the manner and under the penalties
provided in Section 5(b) of the Trading with the
enemy Act (U.S.C., title 50, App. Sec. 5), as
seended, the furnishing of any dats that may be
requested by the Fund under Article 8, Section 5.
of the Articles of Agreement of the Fund."

Part 11

The suggesto ranges below in my judgment are not neces-

cary and they will, to acon extent, take a little more dif-

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fieult the adoption of the Agreements of other countries,

particularly Britain. However, I don't think their inclusion
would be is decisive factor in Britain's decision or in the

3. Section 4 is assended to read as follows:
"International NONEWARDS AID FINANCIAL

decisions of any other countries, and if It is doing to be :

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significant help in winning Wolcott's support, I would not

"Sec. 4. (a) There is hereby established the
International Konstary and Financial Council (hereinafter referred to NO the Council), consisting of the
Secretary of the Tressury 12 Chairman, the Seoretary

object to their inclusion. The sentences are somewhat
changed from those originally indicated in Mr. Luxford's

of State, the of Commerce, the Chairman of
Governors
Secretary

the Board of
of the Federal Reserve System
and the Foreign Economic Administrator. The Council
shall act under the general direction of the President
and in accordance with such policies as the Congress
may prescribe from time to time.
(b) The United States governor and executive
director of the Fund and Bank and their alternates
shall keep the Council fully informed of their activition and shall act in a manner consistent with

draft, but the changes are in my mind important and I feel
It would be unwise to accept the wording in Lexford's original
draft where It differs from the wording indicated below.
I have already discussed these changes with Luxford, Bernstein,
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1. Add to Section 4:

the resources of the Fund are used only to promote exchange stability, to maintain orderly exchange arrangements, and to avoid competitive exchange depreciation;
to 800 that the Fund is kept informed of the necessary
corrective measures that are being taken by members

(1) To exercise their full powers and influence
to secure coordinated policies on the part of the Fund
and the Bank and the highest degree of cooperation and
collaboration at overy point between their respective
managements in carrying out the purposes of the Fund

that use the resources of the Fund; to limit the use

and Bank.

of the resources of the Fund to meeting seasonal,
cyclical and emergency needs for foreign exchange for
current stabilization purposes.

(11) To exercise their full powers and influence
to see that the Fund is used only where It can appropriately be used for current stabilization operations and
that the Bank is used only where It can appropriately
be used for reconstruction and development projects and
for program of economic and monetary reconstruction
which may include long-term stabilization loans.

and orderly exchange arrangements; to encourage the Fund
to communicate its views to members on economic and
monetary conditions and developments which would tend

to disturb stable and orderly exchange arrangements;

to eliminate as soon na conditions permit all forma of
restrictive and discriminatory currency arrangements
among members; and to facilitate and encourage in other
ways the elimination of discriminatory trade arran ements
that hamper world trade and other forme of economic warfare that disturb harmonious international economic
relations.

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(vi) To exercise their full powers and influence
to see that when a general scarcity of a currency is
developing the report issued by the Fund shall set
forth fully the causes of the scarcity and shall contain recommendations designed to bring it to an end;
to see that the report recognizes fully the common
responsibility o: the countries whose holdings of the
currency are scarce and of the country whose currency
is scarce, and that the recommendations are made not
only to the country whose currency is scarce but to
the country whose holdings of the currency are scarce;
to see that proupt corrective measures are taken so
that the scarcity of any currency can be terminated
as soon .. possible, that the limitations on the trans=
actions in a scarce currency are no more restrictive
than is necessary and that they are relaxed and removed
no rapidly no conditions pormit; and to see that the
right of members whose currency is scarce to make
representations on the administration of restrictions
on exchange transactions in 0 scarce currency is fully
safeguarded.

manner that imporile the financial Integrity of either
institution; to see that the Fund does not undertake or

(vii) To transmit to the President and the Congress
quarterly report on the work of the Council, the operations and policies of the Fund and the Bank, and the
action of the United States governor and executive
director and their alternates.

of the Fund's resources on a scale prejudicial to the

two years after the establishment of the Fund and Bank

continue exchange transactions with any member while its
basic economic conditions are such as would lead to use
Fund to sustain an untenable exchange rate.

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(iv) To exercise their full powers and influence
to assure the constructive use of the resources of the
Fund and the Bank and to 000 that they are not used in

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(v) To exercise their full powers and Influence
to prevent the use of the Fund and the Bank, for relief
or for Indebtedness arising out of the war; to see that

*Sec. 4 (c) The Council and the United States
Governor and their alternates are directed:

(111) To exercise their full powers and Influence
to develop the basic economic conditions essential to
sound prosperity to growing and balanced international
trade and to the establishment and maintenance of stable

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achieved the purposes for which they are established,
recommendations as to how the Fund and the Bank say
be made more effective, and recommendations on any
other necessary or desirable changes in the Articles
of Agreement for the Fund and the Bank or in this Act.

be supplied through the newly created U. S. Committee which
is being recommended

which would do what we had originally in mind, namely, make

is also directed to coordinate the activities of all

one of the members of the executive committee of the Fund a

departments and agencies of the United States relating
to international monetary and financial matters to the
and that they guarantee such lorns. The Council is
hereby authorised and directed to accept such emendment
on behalf of the United States.

nonvoting member of the Bank executive committee and vice
versa.

If that isn't satisfactory, I would not feel too strongly

2. And the following section:

about having one governor appointed to not on both Fund and

"WITHDRAWAL"

Bank board of governors, though I think that, too, would not

"Sec. 14. The United States Government expressly

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given that the acceptance of membership in the Fund
and Bank shell not be deemed in any may to morally or
legally bind the United States to continue such membership If (a) in the opinion of the Government of the
United States the policies of either the Fund or Bank

are not in accord with the letter OF the apirit of the
respective Articles of Agreement or the provisions of
this Act or (b) if for any other reason the Government
of the United States determines It to be in the interest

of the United States to withdraw." - a little

troubled about the section on withdrawal. It acens
to indicate that the United States is not entering
this agreement either with confidence or wholeheartedly.
However, I do not have any strong objections to it.]

I feel rather strongly that it would be a mistake to have
one executive director appointed for both Bank and Fund. If
more coordination between the Bank and Fund is needed, It can

through an amendment which can be

later submitted to the governments after the Fund operates,

(a) The Council, with the approval of the President,

reserves the right to lthdram from either the Fund or
the Bank, or both, at any time in accordance with the
provisions of Article IV, section 1 of the Articles of
Agreement of the Fund and Article II, section 1 of the
Articles of Agreement of the Bank. Notice is hereby

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If anything of significance comes up which requires

decision, shell, of course, get in touch with you be-

fore any decision is made.

Mr. White

While at the Conference I will try to learn bether

The Item on the agenda of the San /rancisco Conference of
especial interest to the Treasury is "Arrangements for International Economic and Social Cooperation".

there are any unnecessary obstacles to the quick considerstion by other foreign governments of the Bretton Woods
proposals, in the event Congress adopta the proposals.

It la proposed to set up under the General Assembly an
Economic and Social Council which shell have for itc purpose

"the creation of conditions of stability and well being which

Bow much I will be able to contribute with respect to
the matters desIt with at the Conference depends upon the
extent to which the Secretary of State or other members of

The organization should facilitate solutions of International

International economic matters.

the .S. delegation will want I advice, and also on the
extent to which the Conference will 20 into details of

are necessary for peaceful and free relations among national

economic, social and other humanItarian problems and promote

respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms." (A copy
of some of the provisions in appended.)

There are, I believe, seven Advisers to Secretary Stettialus
to deal with this aspect of the conference: His Dominan of Johns
Hopkins, John Foster Dulles, Charles Taft of State Department.
Sr. Erannan, Assistant Secretary of Agriculture, Good Cox,

HIP. Waring of Commerce and myself.

There are . number of provisions under this general heading,
which include the structure and framework of the organization,
Its functions and powers, and relationships to International
economic bodies such as the Interactional Monetary zund and
International bank for Reconstruction and Development.

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How for the Conference will 20 toward working out all the
details is uncertain. Some of the countries regard the
organization, function and powers of the Economic and Social
Council to be at least S.D Important as any of the other
aspects of the Conference, but 1 think the deaire of the
U.S. delegation will be to postpone consideration of many
of the details. Besides the relationship of the Economic
and Social Council to the Bretton Woods proposals, the
Treasury should have, I believe, a keen Interest In the
organization and powers of the Council as they relate to
a lot of other economic matters touched upon In the preliminary provisions.

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The Secretary of State presents his compliments to the
Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and transmite here-

Letter drafted 4/7/45
ADDRESSED TO

with for his information copies of two documents approved by
The Honorable the Secretary

the Executive Committee on Economic Foreign Policy for con-

of the Treasury

sideration of the United States Delegation to the United
Nations Conference on International Organization. These docECEFF D-58/45
D-59/45

agents are (1) *Social and Economic Objectives of the General
International Organization* (D-58/45) and (2) *Outline of
Proposed Relationships between the International Trade

Organization and the General International Organization*
(D-59/45). Copies of these documents have been transmitted
to the United States Delegation.

Enclosures:
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SOCI AND OBJECTIVES OF THE GENERAL
INTERFATIONAL ORGANIZATION

EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE on ECONOMIC FOREIGN POLICY

Committoo on Spocialized International
Economic Organizations

Chapter IX of the Dumbarton Oaka Proposals provideo in part as follows:
"Chapter IX Arrangements for International
Economic and Social Cooperation

"Section A. Purpose and Relationships. 1. With a
view to the erestion of conditions of stability
and well-being which are necessary for peaceful
and friendly relations among nations the OrganizaSOCIAL AND ECCUONTC OBJECTIVES OF THE GENERAL
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION

(As approved by the Executive Committee at

its mooting on April 4. 1945)

tion should facilitate solutions of international

economic social and other humanitarian problems
and pronote respect for human rights and fundamental

freedoms. Responsibility for the discharge of this
function should be vested in the General Assembly
and. under the authority of the General Assembly,
in an Economic and Social Council."

It is the view of the Committee on Soccialized International Reonomic Organizations that the foregoing provisions
should be elaborated in the Charter of the General International Organization so as to indicate more fully the
objectives in the economic and social fields in respect
of which it would be advantageous from the viewpoint of
the United States to obtain ide international agreement
The Consittee surfests that consideration be ivon to a
statement of objectives alone the following lines: 1/
Section A.

1/ These objectives should be set forth in the Cherter

wherever may be most appropriate. The opening phrases of
the following statement might be placed amone the general
objectives of the Organization which would presunably

appear in Chapter T of the Charter The specific
objectives listed in the economic and hunne welfare
fields. however might well appear in the same Chapter
of the Charter which deals with the establishment of the
Economic and social Council. In order that these objectives
may be readily acceated by the other governments no effort
should be node to express then in any reator detail.
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for the control of opium and other
dangerous drugs and for the provention of traffic in womon and childron:

Section A. Purpose and Relationships. 1. 1.1th
a view to the creation of conditions of economic
stability and social well-being which are necessary
for peaceful and friendly relations among nations,
the Organization shall promote the adoption, by all
nations, of appropriate measures for the fullest and
most effective development and enhancement of the
human and material resources of the world, including

and

for the onrichment of the cultural ondownont of all notions by incressing their
opportunition for scientific, aducational, and other intellectual achievement.

measures

2. The Organization, soting in cooporation with

A. In the Economic Field
for the maintenance of high levels of
employment and real incomo in egriculture, industry, and other pursuits
and the achievement, under conditions

spocialized intornation organizations, shall
facilitate solutions of economic, social and other
humanitarian problems in accordance with the foregoing objectivos. T 01 atization shall, where
appropriate, initiato negotiations among the nations
concerned for the creation of any specialized coonomic, social, or other organization or agoney for
the accomplishment of those objectivos.

of progressive economic development,

of improved labor standards, working
conditions, and social security;

distribution of essential chomodition;
for the expension of the production,
exchange and consumption of goods and
services, the elimination of all foras
of discriminatory treatment in internstional commerce and the reduction of
tariffs and other trade barriers;
for the development of orderly and stable
exchange relations and the expension
of productivo international investment;
for the development and maintenance of
communications and of transportation

and the preservation of freedom therein;

B. In the Field of Human Welfare
for the promotion of respect for human
rights and fundamental froodoma;

for the protection and improvement of

health. including nutritional standards;

and for the promotion of wolfare standards

for men, womon, and children;

for

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for the development of productive resources
throughout the world, the conservation
of natural resources and the orderly

3. The responsibility of the Organization for the
discharge of the functions sot forth in this

Section shall be Vested in the General Assembly
and, under the authority of the General Assembly,
in the Economic and Social Council.

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Committee on Soccialized International

General Franowork Governing the Establishment of Relationships

Economic Organizations

Chaptors I. II. V. and TX of the Dumbarton Onica
Proposals contain provisions regarding the responsibilities of the proposed Gonora) International Organization
in the economic and social field.

1. It is provided that the General Assombly and
under the authority of the General Assembly the Economic

OUTLINE OF PROPOSED RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN

VOR TRADE ORGANIZATION AND

(As approved by the Executive Committee at
its meeting on April 4. 1945)
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and Social Council would facilitate solutions of intornational economic and social problems with a view to the
creation of conditions of stability and well-boing. This
longusse inclies that the GIO and more specifically the
General Assembly would be responsible for the formulation
of policies or programs for national and internotional
action designed to promote the fullest and most offective use of the world's economic resources and to achieve
and maintain hish and stablo lavol of employment.
Khon the Charter is drawn it may be desirable to uso this
more specific langungo rather than the Innaungo of the
present proposal.

2. The Proposols anito it oloar
a) that the General Assembly of the General

International Organization octin, through the
Economic and Social Council, La to coordinate the
activities of specialized international economic and
social organizations. which would have responsibilities
as defined in their respective statutos:
b) that such coordination is to be achieved
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b) The ITO should transmit to the Economic and

Social Council the agenda and documentation for

c) that the specific means of establishing
channels of advice and consultation between the
GIO and the specialized organizations 1a to be loft

conferences and sting of the ITO, and should
afford the Council c reasonable opportunity to commont thoroon.

to future agreements to be concluded botwoon the
GIO and each specialized organization.

o) The ITO should transmit to the General

reports. rocommondstions, resolutions and droft
conventions of the ITO. and the Assumbly or Council
should be froo to commont thoroon.

d) The ITO should b. entitled to make recommondotions to the General Asscably nd the Economic and
Social Council. The General Assombly and the Economic
and Sociol Council should be entitled to pake recom-

mondations to the ITO with regard to its activities
or policica in the light of the functions or powers of
other specialized organizations or in the light of

tially similar It will be obvious from what follows that

unloan all of the important oconomic agencies are brought
into hormonious and close rolations with the GID the whole
framework or coordination would bo seriously impaired.

the economic principlos and objectivos of the GIO.
Such reconsendations any include (1) proposols for
the undertaking by the ITO of new activities dooling

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Rociproon] relations botween the GIO and the ITO
The agreement botsoon the GIO and the TTO should mike

provision for the following rolationships:
Representation

Representatives of the _economic and Social

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torna of reference: and (2) proposels for joint
collaboration by the ITO and other socialized
organizations on subjects of joint concorn and
methods for giving effect to such collaboration.
Procedure for resolving conflicts of jurisdiction or policy
The ITO should be authorized to roise with the
on

General Assorbly or the Economic and Social Council

Council of the OIO should bo untitled to participate,
without vote, in the deliborations of the Conference
of the ITO and in other than cloud possions of the
Exocutivo Board of the ITO. Representativos of the
ITO should be entitled to participate. ithout vote,
in the deliborations of the Central Assombly of the
010 and in other than closed sessions of the Economic

any question involving conflict botwoon the policion
and activities of the ITC and thomo of other specialized
organization 1/ or of the GIO itsolf. The General
Assembly and the Leonomic and Social Council should
be authorized to review, on the initiative of the
ITO, or on the initictive of any other specialized
organization or on thoir own initistivo, any conflict
botwoon the policios or activities of the ITO and
those of other saccinlized organizations or of the GIO

and Social Council.

Information Agenda, Reports and Recommendations

itsolf, and to make rocommundations to the specialized
organizations concerned. If such roconncndotions do

a) The ITO should keep the Economic and Social

not result in resolving the conflict, the General

Council fully informed regarding the activities of
the ITO. The Economic and Social Council should koop
the ITO fully informed regarding the activities of

Associbly should, if necessary and after houring the
organizations

the GIO which are of concorn to the ITO.

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all

Assombly and to the Economic and Social Council

The foregoing points provide the general torms of
reference for working out a drift agreement to establish
rolationships between the GIO and the proposed International Trade Organization The main purposo of such on
agreement would be to place the GIO in n position to
harmonize the activition of the ITO with those of th. OIO
and or other mojor 80001 lizod agencios. It in assumed that
the agreements to be concluded botwoon the GIO nd such
other agencies will, in so for as appropriate. be subston-

b) The
Eo

IT is assumed that before referring any such conflict
the GIO the specialized organizations concerned would

have mode efforts to sottle the matter through their linison
arrangements with coch other.

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authority in cortain circumstances to make recommonda.

tions directly to governments. The Dumbarton Ocks Pro-

organizations concerned, make recommond tions

posals are not clonz on this point. While cortain provisions sucm to imply General authority to make recommondations
to governments 1 under other provisions donling specifionly with the coordination of speciolized organizations
the Council would appear to be restricted to tho unking of

directly to governments.

Administrativo anttors
The ITO should cooporate with the GIO in work.
out such arrangements na may bo found practicable
intorfor ing the catablishment of uniform personnel practices,
procedures and standards of componsation for
changes of staff and for the standardization and

recommundations to the appeinlized organizations 2/. The
Economic nd Social Council should clearly be cappwared
to moke rccommondations concorning the work of spocialized
organizations to the General Assombly, and thom rooommendations should be available to governments. To donl
with questions not adocutely comprehended within the
jurisdiction of any single anocialized organization or
where time doos not permit prior consideration by the
General Assembly the Economic and Social Council should
be ompowered to anko its rucomma ndations directly to
governments. Tt in bolieved that in the Chorter of the

controlization of administrativo services, including
the collection and proporation of statistics.
III
Budgetary Roviow by the 010

GIO this mottor should be clarified. Specifically, it

Under the Dumborton Oaks Proposals, the Economic and

Council would bo empowered "to examino the adminis-

Social trativo budgets of specialized organizations or agencion
with view to making recommendations to the organizations
or agencion concerned.
This clause could serve noverni purposes. In the

1

first place while its edcouncy to sottlo jurisdictional

GIO GD developud by the General Assombly.

Proposals, the agreement botwoon the GIC and the ITO

Council may "acks recommends tions, on its own initictive,

disputes is open to dobato, it doos roonforce the other
tochniques for coordination not forth in this momorendum.
In the second place, it will provide 0 useful stimulus
to sound uniform accounting and administrativo practices
Fext, it will give on opportunity for bringing together
at a control place the total of onch country' prospoctive budgotary assomments. Finally, it will elv platform for making clonr the necessity for universal financial
support of essential organizations.
Since those points are not spolled out in the

1/ Point 1(b). Section c. Chapter IX, provides that the
with resourt to economic and social attors."
2/ Under points 1(c) and 1(d). Section C. Chapter IX, the
Council is to coordinato the specialized organizations

should anko thom clour in such a way as to facilitate
the advisory function of the GIO.
IV

through rocommondations to such organizations, and to
examine the budgets of specialized organizations with
viow to making recommendations to the specialized organizations.
2/ The agreement betwoon the GIO and the ITC outlined clacwhere in this paper would contain an agroad limitation on
the authority of the Economic and Social Council to make
Pocommondationa directly to governments regarding the rosoa

Possible Elaboration of Dumborton Oaks Proposols

If the Economic and Social Council is to discharge

C

should be ando clcor that the Economic and Social Council
ould bc empowered to make recommendation not only to
the General Assembly nd to the speciolized orgenizations
but also to governmento of member statos of the GIO 3/
It should be understood that such rocommundntione to
governments should bu limited to recomundationa which
cro clearly in hirmony with the brood policios of the

effectively its functions of coordinating the cativition
of specialized organizations, it will nood to have
authority

0

lution of conflicts butwoon specialized organisations. It
limitation in the Charter of the GIO itsolf.

would not be appropriate, however. to provide for such a

April 21, 1945
KINGRANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY
Froa:

Mr. Blough

(For your information: no action required)
After receiving your sesorandum of April 16
regarding your talk with Fred Vinson, I tried to
reach his by telephone but have not succeeded
thus for.

I have talked with his assistant, Mr. Pritchard,

WHO informs ne that Judge Vinson received the copy

of your memorandum to the President on tax develop-

ments. It may be that further information at this
time on the subject has a low priority for
Mr. Vinson, considering his other duties.

Royf Blough

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Truman

622-45
16-147

Stockholm

reading only by special

Dated April n, 1945

Distribution of true

arrangement. (SECRET W)

Rec'd 4:45 p.m.

FEDORANDUM TO THX PRESIDENT:

Secretary of State,

There is trensmitted harewith for your signature

Washington.

form W-4 Revised, Encloyee's withholding Exemption Certificate,
1490, April 21, 5 p.m.

which should be filed in accordance with the provisions of

THIS IS OUR NUMBER 136 FOR MAR REFUCES BOARD IN

the Individual Income Tax Act of 1944.

REPLY TO ITEM 354 (Department's 694, April 10, 2 p.m.)

It would be appreciated if you will return the

Problem of finance has been discussed with local

Managian labor group. They receive last $50,000 install-

certificate to no when it 10 completed so that appropriate

Dent from the United States in March and these funds

action may be taken in connection with the payment of your

will probably be insufficient to carry then through April

salary.

seven 5,000 kroner of $96,500 transferred to nim free
2018 confidential funds in Ankers. However except for

operations. GLEEN promised to make available to group

each additional funds as Clean say make available from

The President's salary is paid monthly on the last day

based upon . certificate of settlement issued by the General
Accounting office.

I

of each month by check of the Treasurer of the United States,

his special funds, local group will lack funds for May
operations and still owe Clean 850,000 previously loaned

then.

Transal and Grander have supplied report covering
March operations in Norway, translations of which are
being forwarded by pouch. During March 1, 135 parcels were
sent into Norway through licensing channels, containint
approximately 15,000 kilogram of food, 3,310 kilogram

of clothing and 300 paire of shoes. About 9,000 kilo-

grand of food and clothing were sent in through underground channels, as well as other supplies contributed

by Swedish organisations. During March approximately
1,100 Forwagiana were brought to Seeded through escape

facilities financed in part for American labor relief.
JOHNSON

1008

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178

Name

3.-

Dated April 21, 1945

Dated April 21. 1945

Rec'd 9:16 a.m.

Secretary of State
Secretary of State

Washington

Washington

1020, April 21. 11 A.R.
TO LEAVING FROM JOSSIE SCHVARTE NO. 26.

1019, April 21, 11 S.S.

You apprepriated for Tugewlavia the - of $10,000

TO HOSSE CRAVITY FROM JOSKPH SCEVARTS NO. 35.

-

Is the light of present developments and after full

for the first carter which apprepriation was exceeded
by actual expenditure from here by $5,000, Well receiment

discussion with Resaik recement appropriation $50,000

therefore for Tugeslavis for secent

monthly for nerthern Italy for three seath period begin-

quarter-525,000 which will make total exemptiture for

sing May 1st. This represents the same rate of expendi-

six months period $35,000. Funts are being used to

ture that we maintained in liberated Italy during early

provide urgent relief necessities in the form of feed per

months operation. Important you bear is mind that under
)

cels and financial assistance, Ve continuing our efforts

agreement UNERA will not be operating is the forward

obtain permission for JDC representative proceed Tugeslavia

military areas and while we hope receive seas help for

at which time arre precise budgetary requirements and

displaced persons the major responsibility at lease is

information will be made available,

early phase will fall unes us. Reply urgently to Lisbes,
KIRK

KINK

as
KR

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PLAIN

Lendes
Name

Dated April 21. 1945

Dated April 21. 1948

Rec'd 4:35 P.S.

Reg'd 9:20 a.a.

Secretary of State.
Washington.

Secretary of State
4096, April 21. 6 P.A.
Washington
FOR VKD FROM NAME.

1000, April 21. 11 a.a.

Please deliver . paraphress of the felleving message
from Hareld Lister to X. A. Leavits of the American Joint

TO MOSES LEAVITY FROM JOSEPH SCHWARTS NO. 26,

Distribution Committee.

Tea appropriated for Tugeolavia the - of $10,000

(MESSAGE REGINS) Reference Belgion Afforts being

made here collect elethian by private organizations.

for the first quarter which appropriation was exceeded

Small stocks on hand which should be shipped to our
General appeal not permitted

by actual expenditure free here by $5,000. Would recea

used from

met. committee Purchases shortly. impossible except by govern-

meat therefore appropriation for Tugeslavia for second

free assumite as longer required for air reid precautions.

quarter $15,000 which will make total expenditure for

side appreviate grant of $280.00 first six months 1948

six months period $25,000. Funds are being used to

provide urgent relief accessities is the form of feed parcale and financial assistance. We continuing our efforts
obtain permission for JDC representative proceed Tugeolavia

at which time arro precise buigetary requirements and
information will be made available

100 has cabled Harrison ungine again prompt action your
which British have approved.

,

Grance. Every assurance free Mente Fiere that ICA

will participate extent equivalent $100,000 lease Kassa
which however, subject approval British Treasury and
formal action ICA Council.
Liabilis press agency treasuit by
next days or weeks lists

survivore Bialystock, Leav. Lublin, cost
760 of which believe one-half
have

35,000 cable After pounds, Arrangiar months to here negetiation through arranged for reimbursement approximately car Gredas, account.

by Pelish Government for purpose

KIRK

Accordingly. I have

$400,000 originally which intended stapent $200,000 $200,000 and yes

is due couree will arrange transmission.

RR

maining your side hence contact Counseler Regesinski,
Felies Cansulate, New York. who in few days should have

received cabled instructions free his government here
to relatures you. Please
advise when yes have received
to make $100,000 available to Pelish
includes Faherer and

Resour since I Committee have sereed which provided Februartsbark whole

for assistance Palish Jove outside Paland
$400,000 received by us and provided Felish Government

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182

1

#2

PLAIN

4096, April 31. 1945, free Lenden

Name

makes available $200,000 or $300,000 additional for Rescue

Committee program which will be subject to approval Pelish

Dated April 21. 1945

Government and agesIf and provided money not be used to
relieve Pelish Government or JDC of such old as they new

Rec'd 9:16 a.s.

rendering. (MEDICADE ENDS)

Secretary of State

WINANT

Washington
JT

1019, April 21, 11 a.s.
TO MORES LEAVITY FROM JOSEPH SCHVANTS NO. 25.

In the light of present developments and after full
discussion with Resails recessent appropriation $50,000

monthly for northers Italy for three month period beginsing May 1st. This represents the same rate of expendi-

ture that we maintained in liberated Italy during early
meaths operation. Important you bear is mind that under
agreement UNITAL will not be operating in the forward

military areas and while we hope receive some help for

displaced person the major responsibility at lease is
early phase will fall upen us. Reply urgently to Lisbea,
KINK

KR

PRECISION

TRADE MARK

MICROSTAT MICROFILM

ROLL NO.

283
Sofia via away

ASB-56

This telegram must be

purposesed before being
condicated to anyone

other than Government

Dated April 21, 1945
Rec'd 2.50 P.S.

Agency. (RESTRICTED)

Secretary of State,
Washington

215, April 21, noon.

I have received the following telegram from Troutman
Istanbuls

"The Joint Distribution Committee would like to for-

ward in care of your mission substantial of

-

relief supplies for distribution by its committee in
Sofia. - this meet with your concurrence?"
a

Have replied "I believe that supplies should be
consigned to Dr. aside Marcus address Tear Sincon

100 SoCia. The Mission is prepared to assist his in
whatever way possible.

If Department has other views please instruct.
BARNES

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185

184

4

NOT TO RETRANSMITTED

On fifth Army Front U.S. Troops have pusho forward
against deerchaing Posistance and now some four miles short
or highway nine "ost of Casolocchio while on lost con at
further gains made South of CustoInuovo and 3. B. Jarzana.

O.T.F.
SECRET

Purmo. Control Soctor. Our forces captured Kague
on Irroundiy against alight opposition while further east
6.

OPTAL No. 127

our troops have by-passed ryinmana and are now operating in
arona 9 mile S.E. and 12 milos -outh this town.

Information redeived up to 10 A.M. 21st April 1945.

AIR.

NeveL
7.

1.

Baltic. To LUTZOW bonbod at Swindomunde on 16th

noir observed by recommissance to be down by the storn and
probably a round.

Bember Support and other targots.
20th 3. Bombor Command Lonenstors 93 (missin one)

borbed oil donot aggonaburg (345 tons). 0.3. cacorted
horve Some rs 503 (missing one) droppol 1743 one visually
on 11 rail torgota in orlin and Rugensburg CFC a with mostly
good results

Home waters. 20th/21st. Cno of H.L. Frights annie
at least four explosive motorboats in gholdt approaches
2.

when five prieonors ente taken.

SH..2P (Air) Modium Bomboro 560 dropped alio tons with

MILITARY

Mostern Front. Southorn Soctor. Cr 13th and 15th
First French Army continued its stondy progress in Black
Forcet area South of Strnaburg while East of Providentadt
it advanced 15 nilos over-runnin number of places including

1

good results on pailung contor and supply dopota whole fightore and fightor bembors 2264 (missing 17) oporated Northorn
and Control soctors destroying some 1,200 rail and road
vehicl and inflicting onomy casunition 3.10:16 in combnt and
88.0.111 on ground.

20th/21st. dambar Command dcapstahod sirgraft 117

Tubingon where bridge over Rivor Socker intect.

(outstanding ono, including 81 Borlin.

Hello by Right Corna of Seventh U.S. Army now throw tons on-

tons railing brings Shttenb FS (25 1ca N.B. innabruck)
where
both
bridges pirticlly distreyed, 318 toos on rnilway
vinduct
over

This ndvango Easvarda continuod for further 15 milos, togothor with Southward thrust of 20 miloa from direction of

circle Stuttgart. On 19th Nurumber talton by Seventh U.S.
Army and armoured olomonta pushed 15 miles S.M. in direction
Rogonsburg.
Control Soctor. Third U.S. arry made gains up to
15 miles on wido front botwoon Bayrouth and Plauso. Further
North First U.S. Army took Leipzig on 19th and on aamo day
cleared "allo After heavy housa to house fighting. Considere
able where resistance also collegeing.
boin
upacmy
Hortzattraked
ocket
also on
19th
in divisional strength, supported by some 25 tanks, half
tracks and solf-propolled guns, in area N.M.
penotrating
amo
15 miles towards Klotzo before boing
brought
under
control.
Northern Soctor. Second Arty troops have cleared
South
bank while
of alboother
from South Lausebur Westwards to suburba
Harbur

progress - in clussion

troops

out

numburs

-

of

*Poston

autobalin.

south of latter town resistance stiff and progress slow while
further .ost cnomy also .sisting strongly against our

alvances
on Oldenburg and Endon where aceo henvy counter
attacks
encountered.

Other arons. The Rhur rocket now complotely eliminated
na also Gorman resistance on North a du Dironic Nature.
4.
Bestorn Front. Central Soctor. Garuana admit
Russian advances to ut thin four los Puratonwaldo (s.b.
Borlin, Further South Russiana roport capture cortain places
ncross Spree S. of Cottbus while Gormana state Russion
foress now 15 milos Host this LONG.

Southorn
Soctor. Further advances un to 2. miles
made North
of Vienna.
5.

Wostorn Front. 19th/20th. Bombor Commond despitched

mirgraft 190 (without loss) 79 Borlin, 35 ittstock and 80

Italy. Lighth army Sector .. Argents British troops

now app oaching bridge one milo N.S. Nolinalla while to
Nost, Indian and H.W Zonland troops have advanced ".E. and
Enst of Budrio while still further Most Polish forcus have
mained one milo against dotormined resistance Tost of
Modicina.

19th "unvy bombora 619 dropped 572

Avisio,

163

ons

on

railway

contros

Rosechoim

andoperated
113 tona bnttl
on Alagenfurt
inct onl aircraft 127 (missing
91
r ns.

9.
10th Libertors 27 (missing one) successfully
hitnekud dooks longkok.

MICROFILM

MICROSTAT

ROLL NO

The New York Times.
APR 22 1945

NEW PRESIDENT EASES
WASHINGTON TENSIONS

although he
Francisco

Secretary
This

His Firmness, Vigor, Quick Decisions
And Drive for Bipartisan Unity
Lift the Capital's Spirits

PRESS LIKES HIS FRANKNESS
By ARTHUR KROCK

ASHINGTON April the end of the first week

in

office President accomplished these important things

shown vigor, promptness of decision con
with difficult problems the are new to him
achieve the highest possible degree of hipartiman unity
with Congress loyalty to policies that
Franklin D. Roosevelt and White House
atmosphere
has

good

and

of

MARK

to

TRADE

the

cheer

press

and

time . they asswered their questions
samistakable
has

answers

were

for

the

revision
delegates

His Task

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Constal Comsand Halifazes attacked
shipping Skagorrak whom direct hits obtained on two 3 500 ton

NOT TO BL RETRANS)ITTED

shipp whi in loft on fire, while osquitoos 45 (11) thout loss)
returning from shipping reconnisanned off Norway destoryed 9
out of 10 aircraft encountered over worth Son.

O.T.P.
STORT

21st/22nd (fight). Bombor Command aircraft despitched:
150 (missing 21 109 Kiol, 20 Sea Wining and 32 domber Support
and other targota.

OPSTI To. 128

Information received up to 10 A.M. 22nd April, 1945.
NAVAL

Anti-au/marine Operations.

1.

21st. Promising attack made on U-boat off North coast Ireland
by 6th oscort group.
Liberator attacked surfaced U-boat off the Skaw with unobserved
results.
MILITARY.

Meditorrancan

6.

19th/20th (night)
Liberators dropped 220 tons in 01080 support
Eighth Army.
20th

U.S. oscorted heavy Bombora 711 (missing 7) dropped

1639 tons railwer tergeta Brannor routo, South Austrin and rond
bridges PO Valley wails tactical aircraft 1/34 (missing 13)
operated against Failway targota Innabruck Area, communicati ona
Forth Italy and gave support battle Areas.
S.E.A.C.

7.

Bombors and Fighters 170 attacked acmunications
and Army support targota Control and Southern Burna.
19th.

Wastern Front.

2.

inflicting enemy casualtion 6:1:2 in corbat and 56:0:32 on ground.

Southern Sector: First French Army continued advance

Last
of Rhing and South and latest reports state
spearheads miles from Swiss border, while Stuttgart now
completely

encircle:

Central Sector: Third U.S. army troops crossed Czech.
border noar Asch. First .S. Arro has also cleared Loiozig and
area between this town and Halle while to North Domany has been
entered and Harz pooket reduced by half. Troops of Einth U.S.
Army advance 10 miles down left bank of Rivor >lbe from itten
berge.

Northorn Sector. Troops of Second British arms meeting
fierco resis tance South assbur and 3. 3. dresse.
cleared
Other AT as: Both sides Gironie Natuary now
of enerly and F.S. taken this operation number 10,000.

3.

Eastern Front

Central Sector Russiana now within 15 nilos of centre
Borlin from NEW and East while further South they he o advanced
25 niles lost Cottbus and to with 15 miles of Opesion from N.E.
Italy
4.

eight Army Sector: On right U.E. divis ons made

substantial gains to Peach area 6 miles South correra phore
stubborn German resistance boing oncountered. On left good roSTOPE also made by Indian, New Zonland and Polish troops North

or highway 9, with latter reaching contro of Bologne at 0600
hrs. 21st and 2 hours Inter linking up withw.3. trocpa who had
entered city from S.V.
Fifth Army soctor: U.S. and South African troops

maão good headway neat Bolonn where they have crossed highway

9 at many points and have londing elements as for North as San
Giovenni. (15 miles H.N. Bologna./
AIR

5.

Joster Pront; 20th. SHASP (Air): additional reports

state further aircraft 630 (missing 1) operated Southern

Sector inflicting enemy casualtios 70:0:102 on ground.
21st. U.S. bacorted heavy bombers
329 (outstanding Bombers 4. Fighters 6) attacked, using Pathfinder
technique, railway contro Runich (260 tons), Ingolated (4.44 tons,
and airfield Landaborg (16 tons).
SHAEF (Air) modium bombers 115 dropped
203 tons railway centre Attnang-Puchoism (S.W. Linz) with excellont
results, while Fighters and Fighter bombers 1230 (missing 7)
operated all sectors destroying 290 M.T. and 48 100 cmotivos and

=

(

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

189

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0

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

ase, General Olestead said that the Generalissimo had told
them that be intended to cut the number of troops be pays from

DATE April 23, 1945

their present figure to about 3-1/2 million, but that the

Generalissimo had not indicated to the Army that he expected
more gold from us or any other favors.
General Olmstead said that the Army and the Chinese were
concerned about on economic collapse in China. If that occurred

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

Mr.

Coe

FC

did not know how

Subject: Conference with Judge Patterson on China

an

General they Olestead thought they that could get anti-inflation their local program supplies. in

selected areas might be successful the areas to be the
ones tlat the U.S. Army is to get supplies from. By questions,
Judge Patterson got the General to indicate that the Army was
minly concerned with the trucks and the textiles which the

A= you instructed I called on Judge Patterson on Monday,
takin with me Jr. Collage of the State Department, who

will Clay said would not for him. Judge Patterson called
in General Olastead who is in charge of supplies for
General Medemeyer and came back in the T. V. Soon party.

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190

Chinese were asking, and that the decision on the gold was something for Secretary Glorgenthau to make.

Background

Political Situation

1 tole Judge Patterson that the Chinese were requesting
|Pently increased shipments of gold, that you had spoken with
the President who naked you to COPPY the ball, and that on
and replied you would take our action in consultation with
War and State, I gave the background of the loan, to uses
the Chinese cad made of it. our own sense of responsibility
and said that before you decided you wanted to know what

Mr. Collado brought out that the Department of State might
be concerned about the political repercussions, if the Chinese
failed to pay the gold which they had promised on the certificates
which they are now Issuing. (It would take SUSSO million
more gold to meet these obligations).

0

General Inflation

the militar planned or China.

Judge latterson and General Olmstead both recognized that
the inflation could not be stopped by any of the measures under
discussion, and that it was only a question of pelliative

Military Plans

Judge Patterson said the military lane were still unsettled.
General Olestend said, however, that all the militar plane
for the next period required us to get from Chinese sources
a considerable proportion -- I judged about 20 to 30 percent
of the supplies needed for military operations. This would
be the case, until a landin as made and a corricor out from
the DOB to Free China. The cutting of this corridor night
take anywhere from 12 to 18 months. The military were Interested
in the area around their lines of communications, that is,

corruption.
Abuses

I stated that, spart from other issues, the Treasury was

largely the Kumming area in Southern China and the route from
there to Chungking. The General said they REG a program for
equipping 36 to 30 Chinese divisions.
The Chinese had been giving very good cooperation, according
to the General. Judge Patterson said Yes, but they GO an
awful lot of lying sometimes. In response to # question from

O

concerned about the manner in which the loan had been used
and the restricted number of individuals who had benefited.
General Olmstead gave a good example: ae said that three
Chinese and three Americans had conferred for hours and finally
agreed on the recent increase in the gold price from SCN20,000
to SCN35,000 per ounce. The agreed effective date was 48
hours from that time. The next day was a holiday. However,
during the second day the demand for cold was out of all proportion to an recent purchases and n. big business was done.
One of the principal purchasers was Jesnette Kung.

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April 23 1945
3:30 p.m.

Next Meeting

with Generals Olmstead and Somervell.
Conclusion

General Olmstead will try to get more gold sent there,
on the grounds that it will somewhat ease the inflation.
Unless awayed by his subordinates, Judge Patterson will be
inclined to leave the atter up to you, because he thinks
you ought to decide whether a carticular financial technique
will be helpful. Collago of the State Department will probably
srgue This latter that the figure "arrears" is probably -- US50 what million Soong -- hopes should to get. be sent.

Conversation with Clayton

At 3:30 on Monday, Clayton called me and said

that be wanted advice. Leo is to

WBS sore that be been

left that
the march
Directive on and
be
is. will 28
Clayton
tomorrow. thought out of and Leo Crowley Crowley thought Germany, meet had that him

Leo
Clayton. would it be all right with ne
and blamed
said sure.

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Judge Patterson thought that you would be calling or seeing him on Wednesday about this. Meanwhile, he will talk

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

April 23, 1945
8:15 a.m.

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

1

Conversation with Clayton

DATE April 23, 1945

I called up will Clayton tuis morning and told
aim that everything BBS all right. and I'd be home
at midnight. I wanted him to the through on the
reparations question and revise 1067. in the reparations

Subject:

I don't think that Let do that. 1 don't know what
WILE in the memorandum to the President.

things have been going, and stettinium asked me If
work
agreeable for
directly with him
economic
matters and 1 did not have to 6° through Grew and work
with OPEN on political matters. Stettinius hadn't said
a word to him. And as well, as said something to Dear
on

Acheson. don't suppose that was too tactful, but I
can't understand - otettinius tells it to Acheson.

At

least be must have told Acheson part of my conversation
and didn't tell Clayton. Clayton aaya he has been on

the hill the last five or six days on this heciprocal

irade thing, and the is having a hell of a time. ne #ounded
very harassed. Anyway we'll get off on that Tuesday

morning.

"

then on 1067 said, "Let's get it through while
delloy is still here. And be said he would arrange for
meeting at 10:30 tomorrow morning, and he agreed that it
was important to get it through. I said, Did Stettinium
tell you tost 1 Lave not been satisfied with the way

O

Outbacks: Sharp outbacks in certain types of aircraft last week
served to focus renewed interest on reconversion problems.
According to the Army Air Forces, the outback in aircraft
production during the remainder of the year will amount to
15 percent on a weight basis. Effects of the outback on
the Ford Willow Run plant and on important subcontractore at
Detroit are seen in the renoval of the Detroit area from the
No. 1 "acute labor shortage* classification
Reconversion; Following earlier approval of machine tool orders
further steps were taken by the MPB last week to facilitate
reconversion of the automobile industry to civilian production,
including authorization of substantial expenditures for plant
readjustments and rehabilitation of tools and equipment.
recent survey by the NICB discloses that earlier business fears
A

Lubin, and I said that 1 knew that Lubin masn't to go,
and the resident is going to send somebody else. But

C

The Business Situation
Week ending April 21, 1945
Summary

because be had . memorandus from the President about

to

Mr. Haha

FROM

be Dad just read and be thought it has going to be all
right. me didn't think there was so much of . hurry

as

SecretarsAlargenthau

TO

ne said be hao a document which he had with him which

was

CONFIDENTIAL

over the difficulties involved in cancellation of var contracts

in general has been replaced by a confident attitude.
Steel operations: Steel ingot production in March rose to the
third highest monthly level on record, following the unusually
severe operating conditions excerienced earlier in the winter.
Steel operations in April have been hampered by unauthorized
coal strikes, which ourtailed scheduled output last week to
91.9 percent of capacity. Preliminary reports indicate that
coal output improved last week, and steel operations during
the current week are scheduled at 93.2 percent of capacity
Consodity prices: The all-commodity wholesale price index in the
week ended April 14 rose 0.4 percent to a new vartime peak,
40.7 percent above the pre-war August 1939 level. The BLS
index of basic commodity prices showed little change last week,
with moderate declines in corn, wheat and steers offsetting a
further advance in cotton prices.
Stock prices: Stock prices last week advanced to a new high for
the year, although trading declined considerably after Monday
when transactions on the New York Exchange reached the highest
level since June 16, 1944. Industrial stook prices in London
have advanced to a new var time high and now stand above the
highest levels attained in 1929 and 1936.

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-2In order to hold down lay-offs at the Murray Corporation,

Outbacks in var orders increase

the WHO has authorized the Corporation to change the work week

at its main plant from a 48-hour week to 8 40-hour week. This
in said to be the first time such action has been taken in a
major Detroit var plant since the automotive industry converted

Inpending reconversion problems growing out of outbacks
in war orders and lessening military needs inFollowing
Europe continue
recent

to

feature

current

business

discussions.

indications of & Blackening in shipbuilding, important outbacks in aircraft production were revealed last week. The

to war production.

output of B-17 Fortrenses and B-24 Liberator bombers, among

Procedure for handling outback announcements being studied

others, 18 to be out sharply in coming months. In this

connection, both the Lookheed Aircraft Corporation and the
Douglas Aircraft Company believe that their voluntary quit rate

Some of the announcements of outbroke in aircraft
production last week Yere made by individual manufacturers, and

and other factors will be sufficient to enable them to operate
without any actual lay-offe of employees.

the WPB chairman subsequently expressed with the

handling of the matter. In addition to apparent fears over the
adverse effects on var workers, Mr. Krug took exception to

In the case of the Ford Willow Run plant, however, more
serious repercussions are likely. The Army Air Forcee have
announced plans to terminate production of Liberator bombers
this plant not later than August. and the opinion in expressed
that the plant probably will not be used inmanufacturers
other war work
after
themselves,
aircraft
the
addition
date.
that
outbacks.
the
affected
subcontractors will
great number
Douglas Aircraft and Lookheed Aircraft are reported to have
notified more than 3,000 subcontractors and materials suppliers
of the reductions.

He

alleged exaggerated reports of
outbacks in VAT outbacks
production.
in
military
ennouncements
stated that in the future,
procurement will be made on a national basis from Washington and
that . committee is now considering the procedure to be followed.
Recent estimates of outbacks in var production after V-E Day
have shown considerable variation, but on the whole have tended
foreshadow sharper outbacks in actual production than earlier
anticipated.
of

at

to

In

of

be

by

to

D

According to the Aray Air Forces, the outback in aircraft
production during the remainder of the year will amount to such
15 percent on a weight basis. Production of some planes,
0.0 the B-29 Superfortress and others, will be continued in
increased quantities, and it 10 indicated that Navy plane
procurement will not decline until the decisive stage in the

war against Japan has been passed.

Employment slackening in Detroit area

The recent outback in aircraft production appears to have
contributed importantly to a noticeable easing in the manpower
situation in the Detroit region. The War Manpover Commission
announced last week that the Detroit area was being transferred
at once from a No. 1 *acute labor shortage* classification to a

No. 2 clasnificction. In addition to the sharp outback at the

Ford Willow Run plant, the Brigge Manufacturing Company, the
Rudson Motor Car Company, and the Murray Corporation have begun
to lay off employees due to aircraft outbacks.

Further authorization granted for automotive reconversion
Following earlier approval of the placement of orders for
850 millions worth of machine tools and equipment the WPB last
week approved applications of various automobile manufacturers
to spend approximately $35 millions for plant readjustments and
about 840 millions for rehabilitation of tools and equipment

needed for civilian car production. An AA-3 priority rating has

been granted automobile manufacturers for obtaining itaschine
tools
was
reported
Moreover
civilian production.
renume
needed
last week that the VPB 10 preparing an order which will permit
producers of . broad list of consumer durable goods to place
priority-rated orders for machine tools needed for peacetime
to

production.

Business fears over contract terminations diminishing
Another encouraging development of the past week, in
connection with the post-war outlook. was the revelation of
results of a survey by the NICE regarding the difficulties
of var contract cancellations. A survey of 150 executives

revealed that, in contrast to earlier fears that cancellation
of var contracts would result in staggering inventory losses,

a

-5companies to operate successfully. Moreover, it is asserted
that with the return to peacetime conditions the companies
products

business executives in general are now confident that such will
not be the case. More than half of the companies that have
experienced terminations state that they have had no difficultiee of any kind. An overwhelming majority of the companies
reported that at least 75 percent of their inventories are proteated against losses under existing termination practices.
It remains to be seen, of course, whether the 150
executives polled adequately reflect the experience of business
as a whole. particularly small business. In this connection the
following remarks of one executive regarding the position of
small manufacturers in of interest:

higher-priced
will receive the benefits
longer
which they have manufactured during the war, and which have
of

no

served as an offsetting factor against losses in other lines.
Construction awards higher in March

After running at a very low level throughout 1944 and the
early part of this year, total construction contract awards as
reported by the F. W.Dodge Corporation improved noticeably in
March. Total awards during the month were the highest since
August 1943, and were 67 percent above the March 1944 level.

'At present many small manufacturers are riding along
with large bank balances and do not have the faintest conception
of the problems that will face then when termination comes

(See Chart 2.)

They are not set up to handle terminations properly; they fail
to realize how rapidly situations will change at that time: and
they do not understand that most of their working capital, 17
not all of it, is going to be tied up in inventory which they
are not prepared to convert into cash."
Steel operatore hampered by unauthorized coal strikes

Following the production looned suffered in the early part
February due to severe weather conditions, steel ingot
production rose sharply in March, and attained the third highest
monthly output on record. Nevertheless output van still 1 percent
below year-earlier levels. (See Chart
of

Steel operatic

in April have been hampered by a shortage

of aoking ooal arisis from unauthorized strikes in the ooal mines
As a result of this situation, operations last week were scheduled
at only 91.9 percent of capacity. However, preliminary reports
indicate an improvement in coal output last week, and steel
operations during the current week are scheduled at 93.2 percent
of capacity. (Refer to Chart 1.)
Although price ceilings on some basic steel products were
raised in January, steel producers contend that further upward
revisions are necessary. During the past week, 40 non-integrated
steel producers, representing about one-fourth of the wage earners
in the industry petitioned the OPA
for "immediate,
equitable
and
serious
prevent further
order
adequate

price

adjustments

in

to

financial losses to a great many of the companies. They contended that products which will be manufactured under peacetime
conditions will not, at current prices, enable most of the

=

Examination of the detailed figures, however, reveals
that the increase was very largely due to a sharp increase in
Government-owned nonresidential projects. Two large powder
plants in Indiana were by for the most important items in the
month's awards. Residential construction awards, as night be
expected in view of building restrictions and materials shortages,
continue at very low levels. with avards in March 24 percent
below the corresponding month last year and 55 percent below
March 1942.

Divergent commodity price trends

Moderate price declines for steers, corn. and wheat
offeet a further advance in cotton last week, causing the BLS
basic commodity index to continue within the narrow range of
the previous 5 veets. (See Chart 3.
The grain futures markets turned down somewhat, following
their sharp advances of the previous two weeks. Barley futures
on Friday declined 5 cente a bushel, the permissible limit,
influenced by reports of enlarged imports of Canadian oats,
which are likely to reduce the feeding demand for barley.
Cotton futures. on the other hand, reached new high levels
with the May delivery at the highest level of any month since
the 1927-26 season.

Higher prices for agricultural products out the BLS
all-commodity index noticeably higher in the week ended April 14.
raising it 0.4 percent to a new wartime peak 40.7 percent above

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Action taken to increase neat supplies
A program to increase the production of neate and to improve
their distribution, particularly to metropolitan centers, has been
announced by the Director of Economic Stabilization The 10-point
plan involves an increase in subsidiee of possibly $27,000,000 a
year, and the addition of 500 agents to the OPA staff for more
effective notion against the black market.

the pre-war August 1939 level. (Refer to Chart 3.) The rice VAB
led by or increase of 3.9 percent for fresh fruits and vegetables.
Potatoes were sharely higher, and substantial increases occurred
in prices of apples and lemons at Chicago. The all-commodity
index 18 now 1.6 percent higher than at the name date last year.

Major details of the program include (1) cancellation of a
scheduled reduction in the general ceiling and subsidies on live
cattle, to encourage feeding together with an inorence in the
subsidy spread between the higher and the lower grades of oattle,
insure promote
of grades;
(2) a
special
subsidy
to against
lossesthe
to production
slaughterers
who can
prove
that
they

Car shortage reduces mills' whent supplies

to better

A serious shortage of available whent in all major milling
areas, due to the shortage of freight care, VBS reported to the
Var Food Administration last week by n committee of grain nen
representing the Lower Lakes milling area. According to this
committee grain receipts at the for markete of Minneapolis
Kansas City and Buffalo are running At about 40 percent of

operated profitably in the 1938-41 period: (3) restriction on
farm
elaughter
for sale: (4) a limitation on elaughter in plants
not
Federal
under
inspection:

daily milling requirements while mill stocks available to fill
the gap amounted on April to the equivalent of only 18 days
full running time. Millers expect an extrene pinch to be felt

$

shortly after May 1.
The shortage of flour receipts in eastern markets has
begun to effect the consumer according to press reports. The
Northwestern Miller mentions that grocers in New York City have
begun to limit sales to 5 pounds per customer, and in some
communities to 2 pounds.

To help relieve the shortage of freight care in the whent

regions, the Association of American Railroads has ordered a
moderate increase in the number of empty boxoars delivered daily
to Chiengo and other middle-Western gatewaye. Furthermore, a
permit eystem for moving all graine and grain products in western

railroad territory is expected to be nut into effect shortly,

diotated by the need for noving large quantities of wheat and
flour required for feeding the liberated areas of Europe. The
proposed plan would be under the direction of industry committees
to be net uo in the major markets. While milling groups in
Minneanolis and Kansan City oppose the plan contending that the
permit system would do little to solve the basic problem, the
ODT reportedly has indicated that the only alternative would be
a priority system for movement of army flour and wheat.
Army purchases of flour have recently been accelerated,
according to trade reports. Estimates in the trade of Army needs
during the coming months range from 25 to 33 percent of total

mill production, and mills are pessimistic about their ability

to meet both civilian and Government requirements in view of the
transportation bottleneck.

(5)

increases

in

maximum

prices

for

Army on
beef
There will be no increase, however, in general ceiling
prices
meats.
Stock prices rise to new high
Stock prices advanced sharply at the beginning of last
veek on the largest trading volume since June 16, 1944. Further
moderate advences to new high levels for 1945 occurred on Tuesday
Friday end Wednesday, (See Chart but trading 4.) Moderately activity declining declined steadily price tendencies through

which developed after aid-week were supplanted by renewed firnness
on Saturday At the close of the week the Dow-Jones average of
stocks was 3 percent above week-earlier levels. Publication
of short interest figures during the week revealed that as of
April 1 the short interest on the New York Exchange vas 159,000
shares below the total of 1,520,000 shares reported as of
March 15. Nevertheless the short interest WILE still three times
as large 0.8 at the time of our entry into the war.

The rise in stock
prices in the United States continues to
rise
industrial stock prices
London.
In fact, at the end of last week the London Financial Times
industrial stock average stood at the highest level attained since
compilation of the average was begun. Last week's closing average
be

accompanied

of 145.4
140.2.

by

&

1

in

at

compared with the 1936 high of 143.5 and the 1929 high of

Recent publication of 1944 average earnings of stocks
comprising the Dow-Jones industrial stock average revealed that
average earnings last year aboved a gain of 3.4 percent over the

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-61

1943 level. In comparison, the prices of stocks included in the
average aboved a gain at
6.3 percent
1944
thus which
narrowing
between
prices in
and
earnings
had

Chart 5.) It no

a in recent months,
stands about 20

of

average. Assuming that earnings thus for in 1945 no

developed industrial somewhat result of the since stocks the disparity 1939. rise now (See points the will Dow-Jones above be noted have the average 1944 shown that

great change, this would indicite that the relationship of prices
to earnings is now fairly close to that which prevailed on the
average before the war.

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Chart

Chart 1

203

TOTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARDS
(37 States F W Dodge Corp)

STEEL INGOT PRODUCTION
1

DOLLARS

PERCENT

Millions

DOLLARS
Millions

PERCENT

943

Percent of Capacity

1000
1000
100

1942
100

800
800

9441
90

600

90

1945

600

1940

1940

80

400
400

80

200

TO

200
70

1944

1945

o
o

III

60

FEB

JAN

MAN

APR

MAY

JUNE

AUG

JULY

SEPT

OCT

NOV

DEC

60 FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE MAY AUG SEPT OCT NOV DEC
JAN

NET TONS
Millions

RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS AWARDED

NET TOMS
Millions

1943

Tonnage

DOLLARS
Millions

DOLLARS

William

1942
200
200
7

1944,

1940

7

150

150
1945
6

100

6

100
5

1944

50

5
50

1940
4

1945
o

JAN FEB MAR APR MAY AND JULY AUG SEPT OCT NOV DEC

o

4

3

(

- -

DEC

3 FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE ART AUG SEPT OCT NOV
- JAN

-/-

Office - been Therapy

Source

Item

C-532-A

-

The Services

0.554

Chart 4 205
STOCK PRICES. DOW-JONES AVERAGES
Daily
944

WHOLESALE COMMODITY PRICES
DOLLARS

1945

1944

1945

30 Industrial Stocks

PERCENT
PERCENT
160

1926 .100

WEEKLY

107

155

107

150

106

106
145

05

140

28 Basic Commodities B.L. S

105

54

20 Reiloods
104
104

so

103

889 Commodities BLS

03

102

102

42

101

30

IS Utilities

101

28

100
100
JAN

MAR

JULY

MAY

1944

---

Office the the Treatment

SEPT

NOV

JAN

MAY

MAR

24

1945

24

24

P.156.5
SHARES

Volume of Trading

1945

MICROFILM

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0

STOCK PRICES AND EARNINGS
30 Industrials Comprising Dow-Jones Average
DOLLARS

DOLLARS

Per Share

Per Share

(Prices)

de aralage)
190
13

180

170
11

160

Earnings

10

150
9

140
8

130
7
120
6

Prices
110
5

100

90
3

80

1934

1935

1936

2

TRADE MARK

12

PRECISION

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

1942

1943

1944

1945

Source Dew - - Warrans'
Office Secretary Treasury
P-286

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BOLL

PLAIN

Lisbon

Dated April 23, 1945
Rec'd 10,20 p.m.
Secretary of State,
Washington.

859, Twenty-third
HOUR 392 JDC 224 FOR LEAVITY FROM TROBE.

layer received request from Rabid Joel Teitelbaum

Darich for assistance his program of aid to children

many of whom allegedly living in nonjewish homes. Saly
advises be prepared assist but wishes know whether
Federation Canulatan Jews Nassau Street with whom

Teitelbaur associated is organization with which you

ready cooperate. Also requests information relative

your relations American Hangarian Relief Incorporated
whose work Switzerland headed by Francois Monty and

with which Saly favorably impressed thus far. Please
advise.
BARUCH

1001

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209
208

CARDE TO AMERICAN LOCATION, BEAN, you 250 WAS HOARD
Please deliver the following cassage to Dr. wolf Freudenberg, 41

CASLE TO AMERICAN LIGATION STOCKHOLD FCB CLSSH, FROM THE WAR REFUGES ROAD

Please deliver the following message to Hilel Storch, Postbox 7306, Stockholm
from Furt drossman of World Jewish Congress

Avenue de Changel, Geneva, from Island Stor Robinson of American Ciristian

COOTS ACCORDING TO UNIT TELESSAPHIC AGENCY APRIL 16 CAUP

Consittee for Ibal'agoes, Inc.:

LINGATION ANCLOUS TEAMS NOSTHER YOU ARLS SEND FOOD SIPPLING TO THE
LIMIRATED PERSONS THERE. UNQUOT%

HOUSE AX. 19. STOP

QUOTE SECOND REJUIST I PROTESTANT SPISCOPAL CHURCH FROM

TOOPHAT CANNOT ASSIST INDIVIDUALS. wait is DONE
TO: FOR ALL PROTESTANT CHUNCH GROUPS.

THIS IS WITH STOCKHOLD NO. 361

THIS is are NAME CARDS NO. 507

4:30 Falls

April 23, 1945
4:30 Pello

April 23, 1945

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Ankara via Any

JP-686

This telegram mat be
paraphrased before being
communicated to anyone

other than Government

Dated April 23, 1945
Rec'd 9:10 a.m., 24th

Agency. (RESTRICTED)

Secretary of State
Washington.

552, April 23, 7 p.m.
FOR DEPARTMENT AND WAR REFUCE BOARD
REENES 520

The SS departed Istanbul April 21.
According to Bredish Legation here she carried following
persons in addition to crew, 311 Germane from Turkey
50 Dermane taken aboard at Port Said 1 Spaniard, 2 Partuguese

-

51 Street - Swedes.
Istanbul newspaper VATAN April 21 repor's ship

carried following cargo loaded in Istanbul (in tons):
1200 chrone 900 reisins 200 enery, 500 Masalnuta, 60

peachatones, 50 liquorice, 2 cigarettes, 60 casings.
PACKED

KDA

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PARAPHERES OF TELEOHAN RECEIVED

0

212

American Consulate General, Manila

FILCES:

(3008)

army 10 securing in additional 200 to 30 ,army officers

TO:

Sebretary of State, Washington

DATED:

April 23, 1945 April 24, 1945)

NUMBER

134

DECEIST

A cable is boint sent to thronades and Oanona by Secretary
Confesor, with the approvel of TOAU, or which an approximate
summary is given as follows:

The greator part of Leyte and Santa Ana district of
Manila has been turned over to the Commonwealth by PCAU,

and it will turn ovur other districts gradually finishing
by the first of July probably. On the first of September
will take over procurement and the recainder

(

of commodities procured by the arry will, except those needed

asy. Evidently the Government plans the handling
of the distribution of imported goods until private trade has been
restablished and on the distribution of domestic goods, to intograte with procurement. In vieit of tandencies in the past tocard
government operation and control of transportation trade,et cetera,
the trenc toward government operation is disturbing. In order to
assist in the roestablishment of civilian economy under whatever
supervision necessary, an association of promo truate and bus
operators has requested arry aid in securing 500 trucks, either
new or used, with repair facilities. The army 1a in favor of
cooperation with the CommonrosIth Government but no could profer

to 300 transportation reostablished that way.

(

for military purposes, bo turned over to the Commonwealth

STEINTORF

The aray has secured and 12 shipping trucks for delivery to
the Commonwealth Government, in order to most the transpor-

tation problem. Arrangements have been made with FEA for

handling the procurement program, it is understood. In order
to permit taking over the procurement program by So tember 1st

these should be expedited. It 10 urged that there be reserved

for civilian goods five ships, totaling about 35,000 tons,
and of Philippine registry. Ton liberty ships are needed or
about 100,000 tons additional chipping.
200 trucks are on route already and for the use of the
Commonwealth

for
4-25-45

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00-421

PLAIN

Liston

Dated April 23, 1945
Rec'd 12:03 p.m.
Secretary of State,
Washington.

858, Twentythird
3313 391 and JDC 223 FOR LEAVITY FROM TROES

Saly Mayer upset by Taadhatahalah appropriation,

feels this constitutes opening second joint office
Switserland and expresses lack of confidence in him.
Believe important you cable Saly regarding this.
BARUCH

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April 24 1945
8:58 A. M.

214

O

Yeah, let's have him.(Laughs) By all means.
Now, B.S understand it - what you are principally interested in taking un this morning, is
the political, military and economic directives

C:

Xr. Will
Olayton:

Hello.

HMJr:

Henry talking.
oh, good morning, Henry.

C1

HKJr:

Good morning.

C:

what's the news from Mrs. Morgenthau

HMJr:

Well, the was definitely better yesterday.

C:

HMJr:
C:

HMJr:

Well, that's fine.
Definitely.
I'm to glad to know it. Henry, I got a phone call
yesterday, or my secretary 11 from the Navy.

HMJr:

going to be a small meeting..
HKJr:

...00 he wouldn't bring so any people with him.

HMJrt

The's coming?

HMJr:
C:

HMJr:
0:

HMJ
C:

Mr. Downey, I guers, will be the man. He usually
come to the meetings here for the Nevy.
Who in he? An attorney : suppose.
He vas selected by the Navy to represent them when
Dy Gaten couldn't come, and Dv never did come except

That's what I'd like. Now have you got n moment?

C:

Yes.

HMJr:

Yes.

HMJr:

Well, can you tell as what's happening?

Well, I guess you know that Frank Valker is going
to be appointed some kind of extraordinary Ambasandor,
and is going there in charge of this thing. Lubin
is going as his assistant.

C:

HMJr:
C:

C

HMJr:

Beg pardon?

Let's have (Laughs)

Oh.

.... and as a Minister, I think, of some kind.

HMJr:

Yesh. But Frank Walker is going in charge?

C:

Yes.

HMJr:

Well, I knew that Lubin was going. You know, I told
you that Lubin wee going. The President told 38 in a
secondary capacity.

C:

C:

that's happening? You meid something about having
ote from the President on reparations business.

01

doesn't have anything to say.

Let's have him. (Laughs)

Well, if ve have any time left over.
Yeah, well, but we'll start on the other.
That's -- oh, definitely.
Yell, I'll bring the whole business, and ve'11
work on the colition1 military and economic thing
first, and then 10 ve have any time left over we'll

MMJr:

down in his place. don't know I guest he 10 -he in very quiet, very nice fellow - he generally
HMJr:

That's right.
And not no much the peparation question.

get on the other.

Yeah.

C:

C:

C:

Yes.

They hedn't heart about tt, no I thought I had
better ask down there. and told him that it van

C:

HMJr:

Yesh.

saying that they had heard there was going to
be a meeting in your office.

C:

under the March 23rd memorandum.

HMJr:

Yes.

But I didn't know who was the No. I man.

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HMJr:

Yes, well

C:

HMJr

HMJr:

I'm - I'm - I may be talking out of school.

C:

HMJr:
C:

MMJr:

C:

Well, look, look, old man,

HMJr:

I's sure you..

C1

.... things are moving to fast. You remember, I
think when I told you -bout Lubin, that was neve

HMJr:

to you.
C:

HMJr:
C:

C:

Neve to me,yes. (Laughe)

HMJr:

And If ve...
It's moving to fast that we can't keep each other

C:

informed.

MMJr:

If we give and take n little bit, I one promise you -

by now you ought to know the
C:

HMJr:

C:

HMJr:
C:

Absolutely, I know that.

But that is . surprise. I haven't any idea on where
he stands on that anttor.
I haven't either. I haven't the least idea, but he
called me up yesterday about it, and : sent him over
last night to his apartment a any of what had been
drafted up until now. There' not - I don't believe
there's thorough agreement on 15 yet but practically
agreement on it. I just sent him that and told him
it was in the rough.
Yesh.

**** and told him it was just a preliminary draft,
and hadn't yet been agreed up. I sent 1: to him
that he could take a Look at it and see just what

no

ve were thinking.
HMJr:

C:

Yesh, that : right.

C:

Does this interest Frank?

Well, if se have # meeting on reparations, I sean
another meeting, would we invit him to come to 1 7
Well, I must ank him whether he want to show himself
in that annacity before he gets appointed or not. It
would be largely a matter for him, I guess, to decide.

Yeah. Yell, that' ====== gee. You just never
know where these fellows stand on these subjects.
Yhat?

That's right.

Well, don't xorry, it von't get out of here.
No. I'm sure of that.
But, then I'll be looking forward to seeing you.
Fine. I'11 be there at 10:30.
And you'll invite the Nevy?
Yes, Downey is boming for the Navy and Leo with
Forder 12 coming for FEA.

10Wr

Right. Thank you.

0:

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Operator:

Go ahead.

HMJrs

Hello.

3:

HMJr:

Well, yeah, that's what : seen.
I can't tell you, but I know he has picked somebody
to go.

Mr. Bernard
Baruch:

Yes, Henry?

3:

Yeah, well, he's got a different san.

HMJr:

How are you, Berniet

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

Yeah, well, has he picked him?

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

What?

B:

HMJr:

Yes, Henry, : don't hear you very well.
I'm talking as loud as I can.

B:

Well, where are you, Henry

HMJr:

I'm in the Treasury in Yashington.

HMJr:

Yes, he has.

How did you find your wife?

3:

That?

B:

HMJ

Well, when I got down there Sunday not to good,

HMJr:

I understand he has.

better.

B:

Sant

Well, that's fine.
When : left her last night. the with quite cheerful.
oh, you only left last night?

HMJr:

No. I any, I understand he has sicked somebody.

but yesterday the sicked up and the vast A little

B:

C

HMJr:
B:

HMJr:

Well, he told or he was going to --- he told ne he
vns going to make the change. I told you that.

B:

HWJr:

Yes.
B:

B:

HMJr:
B:

Well, that's

HMJr

Are you in New York?

3:

Yes.

HMJr:

Are you doning down?

Well, I don't --- as for as I know he harn't moved
on that either.
B:

HMJr:
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3:

MMJ:

B:

HMJr:

Well I's waiting a call from the President. He said
he like to see ne about Wednesday or thereafter.
And I told him to give as n any in advance.
Well, things are moving kind of feet down here.
Are they sending us that thing?

I don't know about that, but they are moving fant
on this reparations business.

Well, he's going to move - he's got to move also

on the policy committee.

you feel more hoseful?

Definitely. Definitely.
Well, that's fine, Henry. That's good neve.

Yesh.

HMJr:

Yell, he's got to -- he told - he VAN going to.
Yeah.

of course, help got to get this San Francisco thing
straightened out. He told me when he got that out
of the way he was going to send for me.
Well, I want to be --- the purpose of my call 18
to you - one that things seen to be moving, I
don : know whether in a good direction or in a
bad direction.

B:

I's sure he's going to tell se about it. I's sur-

prised he doesn t talk to as about the man he nominated.

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2.
HMJr:
B1

When you come, I sure went to see you.

HMJr:

Hello.

I don't hear you, Heary

Operators

Go ahead.

HMJr:

Hello.

.

C

HMJri

I vest to be sure and see you when you come.

B:

Yell, of 2005 BE I's notified to name I'll telegrach

Secretary

you.

Parkins:

Hello, Henry.

MMJr:

Fair enough.

HMJr:

Yes.

3:

without taking in the Treatur other things

And they cannot take their colley or in anything

P:

This is Frances Ferkins.

HMJr:

Hello, Frances.

HMJr:

Yeah.

I just wanted to be sure about Elinor.

P:

It would be too abourd, Henry.

B:

HMJr

B:

HMJr:

Well, I got back late last night, and the is

Hello?

P:

Pretty well?

Yesh, well, DOY list You Issue that - I cash I'll

HMJr:

Yes. She's still got several difficult weeks

Well then -- : mean they'11 find the British Treasury
and that 11 find Keynes OVAP there as big as life.

HMJr:

butt in at the right time.
And, 10 : my 05 agsett. : think that I've more than

B:

Listen you're got - the idea about . thoroughly

HMJr:

held up the American and.

pretty well.

shead ofther.
Dear, dear.

2:

HMJr:

=

I'm not discouraged, but last week the had another

eetback.

controlled Germany are going to win now surely.
Ye can' 1020 on that one.

P:

oh, dear. Where shall : send her fl letter?

I say, I've - I think I've 0020 than held up at own

MMr

Welch Hoesital,

P:

Welch Hospital..

end.

Yes, =ir.

3:

HMJr:

I don't know whit you heart over there when you YATH
in England..
oh, oh, it VAT good.

3:

ENJr:

but I heven's anda them any Christmas presente.

I'll be in touch with you -- I's going to 570 :

3:

told you fros the beginning that : going to keep

in touch with you
HYJr:
B:

HMJr:

A11 right, I'll....

P:

HWJ:

She'd love to hear from you.

F:

Vell, I think about her a great deal.

HMJr:

Well, 20 do I.

P:

All right.
As soon as I hear anything I'll Let you know. When

I'm called down, I'li let you know right away. I'11
Alegraph you right away.

Daytons Beach, Florida.

It's cretty hard on her. I mean, this thing coming
when it did. Because for her it is a bad emotional
period

HMJr:

Oh, yes, well, it came -- couldn't have come worse.

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P:

HMJr:

She'r been there three weeks, and I'm afraid that
she will be there at least a minimum of another
three weeke.

P:

If the can aske " little progress every day

HMJr:

Well, she is in it good humor.

F:

Thist's good.

HWJ

She's in good humor.

P:

That's fine.

HMJr:

Thank you.

P:

.... giving her oxygen?

EMJr:

Pardon?

HMJr:

Are they still giving her oxygen?
She'r still in on oxygen tent.

P:

Yes.

HMJr:

Yes.

P:

P:

This is shut is n great comfort.

HOW

Yes.

P:

It gives her great comfort.

HMJr:

Yes.

F:

Fine.

HMJr:

Well, thank you..

P:

: think of you too.

HKJr:

Thank you, Frances.

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Information received up to 10 A.M. 23rd April, 1945
NAVAL

Anti-Submarine Operations. 22nd/23rd (night). Liberator
made promising attack on U-boat in Kattegat.
Enetty attack on Shipping, 22nd. In home bound convoy from
Antworp 120 merchant ship (7176) mined off Flushing but reached port
while a Russian merchant ship (1603) torpedoed and sunk off Kola
Inlet.
1.

2.

MILITARY

Western Front. Southern Sector: First French Army broke

3.

through enemy defences East of Black Forest and armour has now reach-

od Swiss frontier to West of Constance and is moving Eastuards along
Northern shore of lake. Further North troops of 7th U.S. Army have
also broken through enemy defences and 1 arnoured colunn has reached
River Donube in area Ulm while Second thrusting Southwards from
Crailsheim has seized bridge across Danube at Dillikgen.
Central Sector: Troops of 3rd U.S. Army made gains up to 20 niles
on 40 nile front while unconfirmed report states Weiden taken.
Troops of 1st U.S. Army engaged in bitter house to house fighting in
Demony, Northern Foctor: Reported that armour of 9th U.S. Army
has linked up with British airborne troops 10 miles North Salzwodel.

Eastern Front. In Borlin area Russians claim 16 of North
Eastern suburbs taken while further South they stated advances
made East and North East Dresden with forner reaching to 15 niles
from Dresden and latter to within 30 miles Wittenberg (15 miles East

4.

Dessau). Southern Sector: In area North Vienna only slight
progress reported due Test of Breclav.

Italy. Eighth Army Sector: On right U.K. troops engaged in

5.

hard and fluid fighting South of Po at approaches Forrare and Bondeno
while on left Indian, New Zealand and Polish forces maintaining
pressure on Eastern flank of German salient between 5th and 8th Army.
South African troops under command 5th Army on left flank this salient
U.S.
have narrowed neck to some 18 miles. Fifth Army Sector:
arnour heading North now 26 miles N. N.W. Bologna while further West
Modern entered. P.W. on whole front from beginning offensive to
present date estimated 25,000.
Burns. Central Sector: Our troops advancing from the East
have reached Irrouaddy 10 siles South Mague. Further East 1 of our
arnoured colunns reported striking South not within 1 nile Toungoo
having captured airfields this area.
6.

AIB

Western Front. 21st/22nd (night). Bomber Command aircraft
attacked Kiel (136 Eons) with good results. 22nd. Bad weather
restricted operations. Bomber Command aircraft 204 (missing 2)
attacked targets Bremen (965 tons) mainly through cloud. SHAEF (A
Fighters and Fighter Dombers 650 (missing 3) operated battle areas
Constal Connand aircraft obtained hits on one 4,000 ton ship and on
7,000 ton tanker in Skaggerak and Kattegat while 2 vessels left but
ing off Norwegian coast. 22nd/23rd (night). Bomber Command desprice
nd aircraft 150 (without loss): 40 Berlin, 11 Kiel, 99 Bonber support
Moditerranean. 20th/21st (night). Liberators 56 attacked
railway bridge Verona-Parona railway (152 tons) obtaining direct hit
21st. Escorted heavy bonbers 243 (missing fighters 1), dropped 566
tons railway targets North Italy and South Austria with good results
while Lightnings 150 successfully attacked similar targets. Medium
7.

8.

and Fighter Bombers and Fighters 753 (missing 6) attacked communicat

Loan North Italy and South Austria also giving support to ground
forces.

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NR. BLOUGE Ky reports have been pretty brief.

April 24, 1945
9:30 a.m.

N.V.JR: All right, but I fill just telling you. I

don't know what is roing on in taxes, but If timebody rante
something, it is up to me to see you fellows, and to will

settle it on time, ce but please, no more reports.

GROUP

have noked for them. Sol Adler have me ten pages on Chins,

Present: Mr. D. 7. Bell
Mr. Bartelt
Mr. Gamble

lr. C. S. Bell
Vr. o' Connell

Mr. Blouch

Mr. Luxford
Mr. Pehle

Mr. Fussell
Kr. Bernstein
Mr. DuBois
Mr. Coe

Urs. Klof:

but don't rent to see thee are more. I will be glad to see
Sel, but I don't vent air reports.
VR. LUSFORD: Joe tays that It why be didn't tend you
that report on angland. (Laughter)
U.S. KLOWS Don't bring that up.

H.N.JK: That *** one for iv grandchildren. They were
Interested. lifter ell, 6 child tast can take create juice
out of 5 cup when the is four meeks old wants to know what

de In the stainer of '44. So I Just went you--this

teletype thing is wonderful. I think or going to install

one right here, and when you write ne things you will have
to condense them.

H.M.JR: Good morning everybody.

Let me just tell you people something. I have learned
something through this teletype business, and from now on
I an not going to read the volumInous reports which you

all have been sending me about China, Germany, and Releium

and this and that sort of thing. What happens is you fellows
send ne these danned reports about that high (indicatine)
and when I get through, so what! You take a thing like
this revision of 1067 signed by the President on the 23rd
of March and then I begin to get excited about It Sunday
and I call a meeting, and ac will TO somewhere, see?

Now, before I meet wi these fellows at ten-thirty,
I want to be brought up to date. Through stuff you have

sent me I an pretty well up to date, but I will try to

cush the important thingsthrough. But there in no sense
in sending me all this voluminous stuff because I am not
going to read it. It is a waste of paper and a waste of
my time, and it doesn't accounlish anything, but then we
ret something like that or any one of these important
things--if you have something on taxes, come and see me,
and then have in writing what you want, and we will sit down
and go over it.

Where is Luxford? I learned more about what he did-river would have gotten 6 report from Luxford if I hadn't

been dont there. I never could have known what he did
Saturday unless I read about it in Drem Pearson's column.
(Laughter)

Anyway, I = color to try to be more helpful on the
important things and not fritter my time any will th all
this spinnch.

And the job Charles Bell did for the Prerident

Precident Trusan, those tro pages--that VET Food for se
and good for hic. I here asked for ED appointment to see
him Thursday, and If there it anything you sent the to

foll his, let's have it. Let it clear through you.

Non, Gauble net me at the airport last night, and he

started to tell se about pay ell deductions. I said,

"President Truman doesn't know anything about pay roll deduc-

tions, so let's have report. Where do ke stend?*

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VR. O'CONNELL: It night have been spelled out better.

So, anythy that is the may I feel this morning. I
have turned over . new leaf, and I will net started in .
minute with you, Coe. They are bringing the Favy in here
st ten-thirty.

B.N.JK On Saturday e talked--I didn't know that
after you prepared the you wouldn't give then to him.
NR. O'CONTELL You told us that in no uncertain terms

101. COT: They have been In or all things.

Saturday.

H.M.JK will Clayton--it is good. You see, they
bring in this revision of 1067 for the Army. You want to
know P.I. : is going on. The Savy will be here. Tell, what
- proposing to do in to et casebody may assistant to
work exclusively for as and read all of this stuif, cut
out some of it, analyze it, and bring it to my attention.
That is an administrative responsibility.

H.M.JRI Well, that sort of disturbed me, so I thought
I would make it perfectly plain.
MR. LUXFORD: Tell, you use the teletype.

H.M.JR: It is wonderful. Se are going to put one
right in the office here.

New, I rent , telepras on tain business of the bankers,
see, and : feel very, very strongly that be should noke

ERS. KLOTZ: It is not 8 bad ides.

Mr. Bur ent put down what no wants before the put GORD Witt

1.1.JR: Tell, does anybody want to desur about

we want.

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incisting that Burgest file his first and Re will have a

I

look at it?

MR. LUXFORD : think that is contexplated, Fr.
Secretary.

MR. LUAFORD: No. Did you ree Judge Vinson's memo?

H.M.Jh: Not in your telegros.

H.N.JR: Yes, BE 6 result of which I have invited Bell,
Luxford, O'Connell, Vinson, and Dean Acheson to have lunch

MR. LURFORD: I think no.

with be Friday to discuss it. I am delighted that Vinson
it taking an Interest.

H.M.JR: 10. you out It In. You said that Wolcott

asked us to subsit cure, and LT. supress would submit his.
VR. LUXFORD: lie 10 taking 8 real interest.

No. C'OGINGLI: The lest persgraph indicates to are

waiting until Sr. Holcott gets the document from ir.
Burgess and ives that to us, and in the meantine we'll be

H.M.JR: And I would say ou wrote a very honest report,
as usual, and I gathered you didn't satisfy Vinson.

putting COWN changes.

SR. LUXFORD: That is right.

MR. LUXFORD: We left it with the understanding that
Koleott would Let us Know en be had received the text of
the bankers' changes, and in the meantime me will prepare .
draft of the changes we APC prepared to make on the paris
of compromise. We feel that when me go over our changes the
should confine our concessions--

S.M.JR: But that is--

N.J.JH: So we will 20 over it, but you two men--if
it in agreeable with Fell, you make it perfectly clear to
Molcott that Kr. Burgess has to put the thing down first.
That goes back to Vinson's original suggestion, making
Burgese say what he mants.

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H.K.JR: So you and Joe look that thing over, and you
don't have to refer it back to me amain. Is that agreeable

101. LUXFORD: How about seeles on that?

to you, John?

MR. HELL: Samezak tried to not information yesterday,

VR. PEALE: Entirely.

and I didn't feel free to talk to him.

H.M.JR: Shall I have Eccles for lunch Friday, too?

MR. C. S. BELL: Schnidt would like to designate
Michael Hoffman Acting Director of Foreign Funds during his

13. LUXFORD: Somebody has to keen him informed.

absence in Germany.

H.H.JK: How about that?

H.M.JH: Tell them outside that Eccles in to be
Invited for lunch Friday, too. (To reporter)

13. PERLE: Very rood.

Is there anybody else in town?

H.M.JH: All right.

Now, I promised Mr. Coe he could brief no. but 1 will
give you neorle--have you something you want to clear,

Now unit a minute. While you are on that. here is a
letter from Dan Bell on the different people to head un
the financial section. I would like to talk to you people

Charles?

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MR. C. S. BELL: Yes, I thought you ourht to know
that there have been half a dozen meonle selected to ° to
Germany. I have their names: Schalet Feroland, Hollander
Drease, Hoss, Elameman, Rehuneik and Korsan Devis.

In this the investigating corpsy
MR. C. S. HELL: No. this is the ;roup--I think they

telephoned when you here cown routh and authorized this

58 the first contingent.

about that.

2

18. D. N. HELL: Chester Davis, isn't it?
H.M.JR: Yes, Chester Davis. Let's have a meeting at
four-fifteen this afternoon, Mrs. Klotz.
Now. who is to no to Germany to head the finance
section--German finance. Now, I want Dan Bell and Charles
Bell and John Pehle, Coe, and you two fellows, Luxford
and DuBois.

H.M.JR: This is the investigating--

MR. LUXFORD: Four-thirty?

JR. D. 1. HELL: The Schmidt group.

MR. c. S. BELL: All of these people are out of
Forei m Funds. They are canvercial specialists.
E.F.JR: Now that John Pehle is again . free net I
vent to put his and you on . little counittee to pass on
this roup, see, and I understand Echaidt is to clear It.
Is he?

... Four-fifteen. You are not interested, are
you?

11. O'CONNELL: No.

H.M.JR: who are you representing, E. V. Bernstein?
MR. BERNSTEIN: Mr. Fitzgerald asked me to represent

white. I don't know who he did, though.
11. C. S. BELL: Yes.

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MR. COE: A couple, yes.

H.M.JR: Good, fine. It is enough to have you here
representing yourself.

H.H.JK: Are they working?
MR. COE: Yes.

MR. BERNSTEIN: Thank you.

MR. C. S. FILL: I would like to expand Ted Wilson's
authority on personnel matters. They are shooting up to
US scores of fenfolds, and he can take that over now.

E.M.R: You are entirely welcome.

18. PEHLE: Is there a list on that pronosal on
finance?

(Secretary signs letter to Kr. Ted Wilson, dated
March 5, 1946.)

H.M.JR: Yes, lrs. Klotz can circulate It between now
and four-fifteen.

H.M.. JR: That will take it off your shoulders.

13. D. 4. BELL: I will give you = copy.

MR. C. S. ELL: Yes.

MR. C. S. BELL: No would like to promote Norman less.
He is with Mr. Coe. I don't know whether be has spoken to

Here is Mrs. Doyle's report after eighteen months.
You night want to read that et scale time.

you about that.
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MR. C. S. BELL: Ne would like to promote him to eight
thousand. That is in l'ne with other assistant Directors
in Monetary Research. He is an Assistant Director and is
paid less.

H.M.JR: He goes to San Francisco; T get nothing out
of it; and you promote him.
JR. LUXFORD: Mr. Secretary, he has been doing abrilliant

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H.W.JRI If it is important, : will read it. If it

isn't important, I non't read it.

MR. C. 5. HELL: Preston Delano did E swell job on

the Red Cross contributions, and I will fix up 8 little

letter if you rent to sim it.
H.R.JR: O.K.

CH. C. S. HELL: Now TO are or deferments.

job on Bretton Woods.

Dean Acheson called me while you were away to say that

he had done n wonderful job with his on the West Coast.
H.M.JR: On the Test Coast?
VR. LUXFORD: You see, he went out there with acheson

to sell Bretton Woods.
H.M.JR: Is he under you?
13. COE: Yes.

H.M.JR: Has this noliey of upgrading and getting
more people got any new people?

H.Y JR: Don't give me any more bookbinders.

WR. C. S. FELL: This is the group; I have been saving
them up.

H.K.JR: I will give you some time on that, three-

fifteen tomorrow.

WR. C. S. BELL: Fine. That is all for no.
H.M.JR: Daniel?

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H.M.JR: Wonderful.

H.M.JH: Whom did you meet with, just each other

Luxford?

MR. DuBOIS: There 205 5 large group, and, incidentally,

you may have gotten rid of Lovett, cut you didn't ret rid

117. LUXFORD: Supplementary to what you said on

of his Colonel Busanell, who is doing most of the BOFK, and

Barry, a delegation of Americans United went to see him
yesterday, and he told then without any qualifications he
was moing to support and vote for Bretton goods and HBS
roing to make that public.

in being very difficult. We finally did get 8 tentative

agreement subject to reservations by Sr or 6 very good document. It this document could be pushed through before JeCloy

leaves T think we can get it accepted. If ze have to unit
until KeCley leaves, there may be difficulty.

H.N.JR: Congressman Barry.

H.N.JH: Well, will Clayton nented to know what ***
on thin morning, and I told him we would concentrate on
1067, and 11 10 had any time left over we would TO on to

10t. O'CONVELL: B-s-p-r-7.
10. LUXFORD: And he also Indicated that the Committee

reportions, but T think I told you people that there ***

by and large--all of them were roing to vote for it.

D

JR: Well, whatever the deal Lannegan made, it

M.K.Jh: Did I tell you.

ment with him as soon 8.5 I get out of here. lie wann't in

KR. Du BOIS: Yes.

yesterday.

The President SEE Lubin yesterday and he called me
over and talked 0.5 though be were still going to head the
group up, and the President told his Salter In going to
heed the British end and also save him . few more points,
but certainly--

H.M.JR: There was he yesterday?

1R. O'CONNELL: In New York. no case in late yesterday

afternoon.

H.M.JR: Tell him that English week ends are out during

H.N.JH: Didn't he tell him? Did you tell him?

the war.

VR. DuBOIS: of course I cign's tell him, but he didn't
tell ne either, and he certainly talked BE thouch-of course,
be say have told him, but he didn't tell me, and he certainly

VR. O'CONNELL: His son was ill; he had n particular

reason.

talked 15 though be 185 still heading the group up, MOS
going to be the administrator.

H.M.JR: He had better still have n look into his

week ends.

E.M.JR: Joseph?

roing to be DATE selected to head peparations.
FR. Du POTS: Yes.

MR. O*CONNELL: I haven't seen Nunan; I have an annoint-

13. LUXFORD: That is all 1 have.

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MR. DuBOIS: Glasser and I net for about eight hours
yesterday, including us to about twelve o'clock last night
on reparations, end--

MR. D. 3. BELL: I have nothing important.

is O.K.

10

H.M.JR: That part is through. He buttons his coller

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Now, what I tub going to try to do is see if I can
get clearance tocorrow so the can get At him. 1 don't
know where the hell tain san stands, either. I SUC worried.
Leave it to se for the next day or two.

H.N.JH: 1 didn't tell them anything. Crowley is
bringing one man. Well, who RES here on the original

1067, you and T?

in COE: And Gianser.

MR. Du ROIS: This fellow Salter--I don't know him,
but I rather from Frank end Earold be 1: . pretty bad choice,
and it 1e epperently on attempt by the British to satotare

.Jh: Glesser? No, he didn't attend the meeting

in this room.

it.

13. COE: Probably White.

H.N.JR: Tell, be is an important fellow.

E.F.J.: White. Are you coming, Dan?

in. DuBOIS: lie bet got to name, but 1 /ather--

RR. D. % BELL: Yes, I an casing. I = an observer.

R.E.JR: He is start.

H.K.JR: Let's leave it to Frank. Can you handle it?

MR. COE: he is getting very old.

MR. COE: Yes, sir.

H.M.JS: his wife is something. Oh, boy:
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ACH COF: Keybo the will 20.

B.K.JRI Well, I hope not. She is what is known as
RD original cave-aweller in Teshington froz the social
angle-every rich. She couldn't understand when I flem have
why I couldn't take his and fly his to the Berkshires
enroute. She is socething.

Teil, let's see. I think before todsy or tomorrow
I hope to have my hands untied to I can contact this ner
MAD.

VR. TuBOIS: The only question on this other, K.
Secretary, 200 Chambers told = MeCloy THE leaving tonight.
H.N.J.: Yes. Let's see how this meeting FORE this
worning. the is castes Frank, besides you and no.
MR. COE: It depends on what you told the other
departments on how many there will be.

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W. COT: Support would be good, but I d en't think to.
No, you should have # relatively small number.
H.M.JR: Do you need technical support?

MR. COF: No. T think ve are all right.
H.N.JSt Let's see where BO come. If the cet into

reparations, I will send for you. Joe. But I don't think
you can drive it today, because I know that Clayton knows,

and I don't think he is going to push it.

VR. DuBOIS: If you can't get that, Mr. Secretary, If

you get ReCley to sign just one document--and that WAS

that memo that I cave to harry, and T think he showed It
you--Just interpreting the first paregraph in this March 23

directive, it will get us over a lot of hurdles.

H.K.JR: Let's see how much time we have. This new
man got a copy of the document on reperations. Cleyton sent
It to him. He said he thought it WB D pretty good, and I
take it it was what you sent to ae.

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MR. GAMBLE: I won't be here this afternoon. I don't think
you ought to send out any press release on a memorial bond.

MR. DuBOIS: Yes, that document has not been changed

in substance.
night.

H.M.JR: Aren't you roine to be here?

H.N.JR: Clayton sent it to this nan to read last

Nit. CAMBLE: What about Judge Campbell? Do you know him

well enough to let him come in alone?
MR. DuBOIS: Right.

H.M.JR: Jud me Campbell? He's an ols pal of nine. He
was District Attorney on the--

H.M.JR: 1 want to get clearance to TO to work on
this fellow.

MR. GAMBLE: On Iroe.

MR. DuBOIS: It doesn't sound very good.

H.M.JH: On Annenberg. He and I are old friends.

H.M.JR: What?

13. LUXFORD: Did he write the gold decision?

12. DuBOIS: It doesn't sound very FOOD.

H.W. He and I are very good friends. He's swell.

H.M.JR: I don't know, I an just besildered. Be may
be wonderful, or he may be terrible. lie is important.

MR. RERNSTEIN: I don't have anything.

H.M.JR: what did Mr. White do yesterday?
MR. BERNSTEIN: I think he probably and still flying.

H.M.JR: that did E. 1. do?
MR. HERNSTEIN: I just tore around the day waiting for

it to end.

H.M.JR: Maiting for Dan? (Laughter)
MR. PEELE: Waiting for it to end.
H.M.JR: Is there anything you want to tell ne?
MR. BERNSTEIN: No, sir.
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JR. GAMBLE: Mr. Bell has a press release on the

Roosevelt memorial.

R.M.JR: I will do that this afternoon.

flying

WR. GAMBLE: It's okay for him to come in alone. I was
to

New

York

at

five

o'clock,

but

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MR. DuBOIS: He is for It very hard.
H.M. Jil: E. 1.7

H.M.JR: 1 know him well enough.

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think

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MR. COE: Desnite any premonitions are may have had,
Lubin has worked out very well on policy.

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N. GAMBLE: He is here doing some work for us.

ought

to

take

an earlier train on account of the weather. On the Memorial Bond
release, Mr. Secretary, we have had several hundred letters. No
have answered them all. No have sent the policy to the State
Committees.

H.M.JR: Listen, I appoint you and Dan as a Committee to

settle it immediately after this.

VR. D.V. BELL: We are getting all kinds of letters.
H.M.JR: You and Dan settle it. what about this business
of asking a recording and all that? who are you going to deputize
on that man Do you want 120 to make a recording?
MR. GAMBLE: All I want to know is what day is convenient,

Friday or Saturday? It will take an hour.
H.M.JH: An hour?

MR. GAMBLE: It will probably take a half or three-quarters

of an hour. e'll do it here--bring the newsreels here.

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H.M. TH: Joan and I don't know how many of you have
seen the coca cola machine where you put in five cents
and a cup of COOR cola .ice cold cones out. There is

H.M.JR: Are you familiar with that?
MR. MISSELL: Yes.

one in the hospital and we play it all day long.
VRS KLOTE: It's not exclusive with coca cola--all soft

MR. GAMBLE: he has had all of that. The only part
I an concerned about is the newsreel shot.

drinks.

H.M.JR: It's a newareel shot?

H.M.JR: It's awfully good. Are there many of those
machines around?

Mr. GAMBLE: Yes. That's one of three pieces.

MR. GAMBLE: Thousands.

H.M.JR: Well, let's say nine o'clock Friday morning.

N.M.JR Are there any in Gamble's theaters?

Mr. GAMBLE: Friday morning at nine o'clock.

MR. GAMEL Yes.

H.M.JR: Fussell, you pick up the pieces.

MR. C.S. BELL: 140 had one in the Treasury. I

MR. GAMBLE: He has prepared 9 statement. he has

don't know if it is still here or not.

been carrying the ball. We did some work on the statement, but he has carried the ball.

H.M.JR: Eddie?

H.M.JR: When V-E Day comes It's all out in the
field over the dead body of O.I. Ted is putting

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MR. PARTELT: I have nothing, Mr. Secretary.

All right. Frank, you will have your day

three weeks in advance, ahead of everybody else. lie
doesn't want it known, though.

in court as soon as these people get out.

MR LUXFORD: Three weeks in advance of what, Mr.

Kh. COE: There are two or three other things besides

Secretary?

the German thing.

H.M.JR: Talk fast.

H.M.JR: OWI.

HR. COE: Patterson is expecting a call from you on

MR. LUXFORD: I see.

the China business.

MR. GAMBLE: One minor thing. woodruff is giving a
birthday party today for Al Steele. I thought you would
like to send a wire.

H.M.JR: Is he?

Mr. COE: Evidently you told him you would be in

H.M.JR: Tell him I wish him luck in his candidacy
for walter George for my job.

touch with him.

H.M.Jh: Is he ready to go to town?

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MR. O'CONNELL: Schachner.
H.M.JR: From SEC?

VR. COE: He will support us, but his general is

on the other side in line with your new policy. I
would like to talk to you about that separately. We

MR. O*CONNELL: This is Bruno Schachner. he has been

with the D. A.'s office many years.

have a proposition un--

h.M.Jk: Is he any good?

H.M.JR: Can't you do It afterwards? These men

will be out of here in four or five minutes. You will
have twenty-five minutes. You can do a lot of talking

His LUXFORD: He tried all of our cases and has
done a good job for us.

in that time.

MR. O* CONNELL:Cahill, who of course is on the other

MR. COE: Yes.

side,1 trying to do a good job, and is doing . very
effective job. They are not discussing the

Does that three forty-five date still stand that

are all the

Ted is running out on? (Laughter)

the case
the particularly.
Theyintelling
merita
good
work
Chase
Bank has done
helping
to win
theofwar
and selling bonds. Ee hasn't talked much about whether

H.M.JR: Yes.

they did violate regulations or not. There is one meak
spot in our case-we knew it was there--and that is one

R. FUSSELL: Sometime before the Thursday press

conference I would like a few minutes to talk over what
we are going to say at the Thursday press conference on
this black market income tax stuff.

of our key witnesses is a Chase Bank employee who

admittedly was cognizant of the fact they were violating controls
and he testified he informed his superiors of the fact.
He testified both ways in the trial.

H.M.JR: Have you not anything juicy?

H.M.JH: Is he the fellow that was in Spain?

VR. FUSSELL: Not juicy, but we have is plan of

H.M.JR: will fifteen minutes be enouch?

101 0* CONVELL: You are thinking of Barr. This
is a subordinate employee, a lower down fellow, and he
testified under direct examination and under pressure
that he had known of the fact that they were violating

MR. FUSSELL: Yes.

the examination, controls, I he informed, told superiors, and in cross

presentation that will provide enough interest for
them to write about.

and his

an he took it all back again

1 from

when Cahill went to work on him. As far as the jury

H.M.JR Fifteen minutes before press.

point question of creditability and

is their concerned, of we'll view get the to the jury, think, and

KR. FUSSELL: Could Mr. O'Connell come in?

having a good man on our side, I think, very readily
pointed out the pressures that would innell him to

equivocate a little bit since he still works for
the Chase Bank, and it's pretty difficult for him to

H.M.JR: Sure. Are you golar to win the Chase case?
MR. O*CONNELL: I think so. It's a close case.

H.M.JR: How is the fellow trying it?
MR. O'CONNELL: He's doing all right.

not sort of jump from limb to limb, so to speak. He
testified before the Grand Jury that he had informed
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R.M.JR: I skipped you. All right.
his superiors, and that was the basis on which he was
forced under direct examination to adhere to that story
and on cross-examination he reversed. He is a pretty

Vis. PEHLE: I have nothing.

H.M.JH: 1 sent you and Charlie a little nemo. Have

poor witness.

you got it already? It would be nice if I got out a
statement to the employees.

H.J.JR: Isn't the testimony given before a Grand
Jury made available to the trial?

MR. PEALE: Did you like the statement we wrote1

100. O*CONNELL: The testimony before the Grand Jury

H.M.JH: I like the one Wallace got out.

WB.D ande available to us, and it was based on that that
We were able to, in S direct examination, force him to
say what he said before the Grand Jury, but on crossexamination by Cahill he weakened quite 5 bit.

MR. PEHLE: We wrote it for him.

H.M.JR: Why not one for the old man? The fellow-I am pushing him out. I ought to go ahead of Wallace.

H.M.JR: The whole case doesn't han on that, does
it?

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MR. PARLE: I think a statement would be good.
There is one disturbing element.

18. O'CONNELL: No, but one of the important witnesses as far as notice to responsible officials of Chase

Like Joan said, "In all these discussions
who comes first I said, "Morgenthau.

is concerned-- is quite important. ie won't be throuch
until--1 think our case will be in today or tomorrow, but

It will be probably a week from today, or more, before the

Mr. PERLE: Some of the old Treasury employees who ke

case is all in. The Judge is Joine a rood job. Rifkind,

thought would certainly want to stay in the Treasury have
shown a great desire to get out.

. youn? fellow who used to be Warner's Secretary, I - told,
is doing very well.

H.M.JR: Get out of Procurement and do what?

H.M.JR: Oh, yes, he's the (eilon that is 80 interested
in housing. Whan't he with Nathan Straus for a while?

15. PEALE: In other words, where there were people
in the border-line area that were any good, even though
they had as much as ten years in the Treasury, they wanted

VR. O'CONNELL: He use with Warner at the time the
housing legislation came UT.

to go.

18. D. BELL: Keyserline is the Housin boy.

Maybe It's too much.

H.M. 1 know Rifkind.

MR. PEELE: Too much?

VR. O'CONNELL: Rifkind succeeded Keynerling as Wagner's

H.M.JR: Maybe ten years in the Treasury is too much.

secretary.

MRS. KLOTZ: Ten years of Procurement.
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this very limited DPORTAN which the Joint Committee in
pronosing. It other words, the Joint Committee would
propose something a rood deal less than a lot of folks
would like, and are are horino to get good sunport from

MR. D.M. BELL: Too much Procurement.

the outside for the limited Proffes. Things, so far,
are oul satisfactory.

N.M.JR: Everything else is all right. that did

Fine.

you do about Viss Model?

MR. PEBLE: She's taking the plane and so is O'Dayer.

Pussell, in talking with Gamble last night, in the
future when things of importance hannen, take this sort
of thing--he has forty-eight chairmen and every one of
them have Public Relations sen. when something important
happens I want a bulletin to info out to Gemble's meonle on
behind the scenes news in the Treasury, 00 these fellows
know how to evalunte it, see?

H.M.JR: Two weeks to make a two-day speech.

10. PEELE: Yes, I know. I think the real difficulty,
Mr. Secretary, HIS that they were roing to write the speech
on the train. or course, I know that's not an approved
practice, but-H.M.JR: Anyway, you settled about the plane. You're
my boy. All right.
10. BLOUGH: Well, we spent yesterday in conversation
al th Stam all day on various tax batters. is have n report
now crepared for the Joint Committee. The issue isn't in
print yet, and use expect the Joint Course ttee will to over will
It about the end of this week. Ky 2000 in that they
take it almost as 1s, although they might make minor
changes. They will probably release it. T don't know
why. but I would think they will probably release it
either Saturday of this week or early next seek, probably
the latter.

MR. FUSSELL: You mean tax patters?

......... Anything real important. Gamble should
desi mate fonebody over there so they PO out. These

fellowe in the field are interested in everything the

Treasury does. Everything the Treasury does affectsbon

sales, or bad, and these fellows that are out in the

field, th Chairmen and their Public Relations men--take
this question of the off-the-record press conference 1 had
about whether I would stay or resign. A thing like that
should have one to his State Chairmen, see? Also, we
not rid of Surplus Property should m to his ceople. That's
the best contact as have. Now, that thing may be enlarged

into a sort of Treasury bulletin. It might 70 to aixty-five
Collectors of Internal --Presidential annointees.
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I think at that time you should follow immediately,
same day, practically the sase hour, with a press
statement indicating your approval and the part the
Treasury has had in this 80 as to ride richt alone on
the same publicity. Vr. Fussell and I have been talkinabout it, and If you approve, are will work un something.

think every Presidential ampointee in the Treasury ought to
net a bulletin like that, not every week, only when something
happens which needs intercretation. I think it would be very
useful. These Collectors are out in the field and they don't
know. They are all interested.

the

Hannegan cald three bankers came to him, and each

H.M.JRI I approve.

one said, Is Korrenthau roing to resign? Hannern said,
Why are you interested? They said, 'I want to know If he

lift. BLOUGH: There la something to be issued. You rood
have seen from BY short semo that I 533 askin n

MAY little off-the-record talks and interviews and I

am any spending touorrow and Thursday in Item York. I an seeing

the editorial meople tomorrow and will be having off-therecord conferences with business people Thursday.

does, because the bond market 1a roine to hell.

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I think what we need is just a typewritten pare when
something happens here that is of importance 20 that these
people in the field know that they have become part of the
Treasury family, see? Do you approve, Fussell?
field.

MR. FUSSELL: A house organ for the higher-ups in the

H.M.JK: A letter ought to go out in the future,
from time to time, then something happens. we are going
to take you behind the scenes in the Treasury and give
you . little talk for background purposes,"and explain
what background is.

H.M.JR: That's right.
MR. FUSSELL: You may find that are may be criticized

for using the an Finance organization for--

B.M.JR: Let Gamble worry about that. Do you want
it, Ted?
MR. GAMBLE: Yes, I know how we can handle that.
MR. LUXFORD: That includes Customs.
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MR. CANCLE: It ought to go before it's announced,
too.

H.M.J.R. Every responsible Treasury man in the field,

and all Presidential appointees, see. But net these

Mr. FUSSELL: Mr. Secretary, in connection with what

way just said, if that tax release comes out at a convenient time during the day, during the week, do you

think a background press conference would be a desirable
thing following the release?
H.B.Jk: Yes, you work it out; make a recommendation.

Roy, I'll be the front and Roy will do the talking.
Mr. BLOUGH: Good.

R.M.JR: Non, I cleared you and cleared you. How
about you?

fellows me have never used, and It streads the word.

Ma. O*001NELL: I have nothing.

12. LIKEFORD: Just theIr circle of sequaintances-cover the country.

H.M.JRI All right.

H.M.JR: Throw A pebble in the pool and look at the

circle of ripples that to out. There's . mood idea,
straight from Daytons.

1R. FUSSELL: I t h ink it's a rood idea, Mr. Secretary,
in connection with what-H.M.J.: I don't want it every week, Just when something important come: un. You take this thing he's roin
to do. Everybody in the United States, every businessman
wants to know how this tax thing is roing to O. Let's
net this thing out. Get your mailing list ready, and I
think a preliminary letter ought to TO out over not aimature explaining what this is.

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I would suggest to you, if it meets your approval,
that we take the political and military documents first.

April 24, 1945
10:30 a.m.

(Mr. D. W. Bell enters the conference.)
MR. CLAYTON: And that I ead it through first and then

1067 REVISED

take it paragraph by paragraph, and comments can be made on

the suggestions as me go through it.

Present: Mr. D. it. Bell
Mr. Crowley

(Lt. Bancroft enters the conference.)

Mr. McCloy

Gen. Hilldring

MR. CLAYTON: I think the may get a better idea of the

Mr. Clayton
Mr. Glasser

complete story If I read it all first and then we take it

paragraph by paragraph, so that any comments or suggestions
probably
won't be accepted until we go over it from beginning
to end.

Mr. Coe

Mr. Fowler
Mr. Downey

Major Gross

H.M.JR: You read through the whole thing without any

Mr. Desores

comments.

Mr. Riddleberger

Lt. Bancroft

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H.M.JR: Let's start.

H.M.JR:
you on
the Hill.We'll give you the same courtesy they give

MR. CLAYTON: Shall we go ahead?

MR. CLAYTON: I d on't know whether that is too good.

H.M.JR: If you please.

H.M.JR: We will do it better.

MR. CLAYTON: Mr. Secretary, the working committee

has produced two or three documents. They have one on

(Mr. Clayton reads "Directive to Commender-in-Chief
of U. S. Forces of Occupation Regarding the Military Government of Germany, draft No. 1.)

the military and political directive on which I think

almost complete agreement has been had. There may be

one or two little matters.

MR. CLAYTON: (Rereading dreft) "This directive

MR. DESPRES: That's right.

rescinds JCS 1067 and is issued to you as Commanding General

of the United States forces of occupation in Germany, As
such you will serve as United States member of the Control
Council and will also be responsible for the administration
of military government in the sone or zones assigned to the
United States for purposes of occupation and administration

VR. CLAYTON: And there is one on financing which I
don't believe you have fully agreed upon.
MR. DESPRES: No, an haven't the last one.

It outlines the basic policies which will guide you in those

MR. CLAYTON: And there is one on economics which I

think we are pretty nearly in agreement on; there are only
two or three minor matters.

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to accomplish in the whole of Germany, so while he is

Supplemental directives will be issued to you by the Joint
Chiefs of Staff as may be required.

going to apply it in his zone prior to the agreement in
the Control Council, he is going to try also to sell
this policy to his three associates in the Control Council.
H.M.JR: But it isn't up to the State Department, or
Winant, or the European Advisory Council. It is up to

MR. CROWLEY: I monder this, if they couldn't--all
the men here know, Will, where there is a difference of
opinion. That is only the general directive, and if we
could get down into the meet of the thing where there is
some difference of viewpoint, I think we would save time,
if that is agreeable.

Eisenhower to take It up with his three men.

GEN. HILLDRING: At the moment It is the business of

Kr. Winant to sell these policies If we can get then over
there in time in the EAC to his associates on a diplomatic
level. However, once the Control Council is set up, it
is my view that you can't have this done in two places, and
starting at that moment Mr. Finant or the EAC is going to
step aside, and thereafter this selling job is going to be

MR. COE: I think that would save time all right.
MR. CLAYTON: It would save & lot of time, and it would
get to the points where there has been-I

H.M.JR Could I just ask you this? At this stage
think it is an excellent suggestion. It isn't quite clear

done by Eisenhower in the Control Council.

to no. An you people know, I have had to be anay. "Directive

H.M.JR: Well, now, let's take a little time on that

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the Military Government of Germany. Do I take it that
this is a directive to General Eisenhower?

and see if there is general agreement, because I think that
is terribly important, I mean, where the thing goes from cil.

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here as to what happens to the European Advisory

that is that?

GEN. HILLDRING: That is right, sir.
H.M.JH: And that he will be Commander-in-Chief of the

Mil. CLAYYON: The General stated it as we understand it.

forces of occupation? Is that right?

H.M.JR: May I be 8 little frank amongst ourselves?
Well I can guess. I an not asking for confirmation or denial.
be matter of several weeks, I take it, before this

GEN. HILLDRING: Yes, sir.

H.M.JR: What I don't understand is this: We go ahead
with this. Let's say we will come to an agreement, and then

Council It will will a be set up, I mean, in Berlin. And doesn't

it kind of cross the thing up--I am using a polite word-to send it first to Winant, who will mess around with the

what do we do about the other three commanders?

European Advisory Council and may do a good job? On the

GEN. HILLDRING: He is going to try to sell these to
the other three to the greatest extent he can.

other hand, he may not be successful, and it goes to General
E1 senhower and the water has been muddied. If Eisenhower
is going to carry the ball, why muddy the water with the
European Advisory Council and only have two or three weeks
to fuss with this thing?

H.M. And that is General Eisenhower's responsibility?
GEN. HILLDRING: Eisenhower is two people. he is our

representative in the Control Council in Berlin, and he
is in command of the U. S. zone. This is the U. S. policy
both with respect to zone and with respect to what we want
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MR. RIDDLEBERGER: I would like to raise the point that we
haven't told Ambassador Finant yet that we will necessarily
introduce this directive into the EAC for negotiations. No
have reserved the right to do it if we consider it desirable,
but we don't have to do it.

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him with the generals representing the other Governments,
why, I would feel sure they would have to then take it up
with their Governments. So wouldn't it be better for us

H.M.JR I would just like to raise the point that
wouldn't it muddy the water? If General Eisenhower were
told this or that was agreed upon or rejected by the
European Advisory Council, wouldn' it make It more difficult

to start right off and present it to them?

for him to act, rather than if he got the thing fresh and

H.M.JR: Do you mind if I argue a little with you?

clean and he could go to town on It?

MR. CLAYTON: No, sir.

MR. RIDDLEBERGER: Under our present arrangements the

point of contact with the Soviet Government on questions

H.M. JR: I told this European Advisory Council--and I
don't think the history has been a very glorious one--but
I think that there is a good reason for It from Ambassador
Winant's standpoint--he has really never had a directive.
so I think there is a good reason why he hasn't been able

affecting Germany is the European Advisory Commission

pending the establishment of the Control Council. We have
been ur ging upon the Russian Government the high desirability
of establishing as quickly as possible the Control Council
for Germany and have requested the Russian Government on no
less than three occasions to speed sending their personnel
to London for the nucleus groups, but so far they haven't sent
them. Consequently our negotiating basis is London for

to function, because from the top down be has never been

told what the policy is.

Now, supposing he gets this thing at the end of the
week. Suppose we get it to him by the and of the week and
he begins to work. He isn't going to get anywhere for

the moment.

H.M.JR: I am not satisfied, if you don't mind.

months. I would think he ought to get it in any case for
his own guidance at once. General, wouldn't you think so,
regardless of what we night do about the European Advisory

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MR. RIDDLEBERGER: Yes, I am merely explaining what the

situation is, that is all.

Committee?

H.M.JR: I need the explanation, but if you don't mind

GEN. HILLDRING: This is & little along the line I
have been thinking. I would agree with Secretary Morgenthau
wholeheartedly. If the day after Eisenhower got this document
he were ready to begin negotiating with the other generals,
or if he were going to be in a position to begin such negotia-

little time. I think it is terribly important.
of what

my I have taking seen a & little bit they have been able and

not been able to do, and if it is a matter of weeks, I would
like to raise the point in consideration whether it might
not be wise to dive this document to General Eisenhower so
he could be studying it, because he is going to have to
deal with the Russians, anyway. de isn't going to deal with
the diplomats, but he will deal with the Russian Generals.

tions within a short period of time--I don't know, Mr. Secretary,
how long it is going to be before the Russians saye ak., we

will let the Control Council begin functioning. think if
we knew that we would be in a better position to answer your

And if he could start fresh, without the thing being a little

question.

messed up in London--I wonder if his hand wouldn't be turned.

MR. CLAYTON: Mr. Secretary, I think there is this
point that we have had to consider in connection with that,
and that is that If General Eisenhower takes this up with
the Soviet, British, and French generals, it will come to
then entirely fresh and new, and I an sure that it will be
a matter they would have to take up then with their Governments, you see, because this is something that General
isenhower's Government has formulated for him, you see?

H.M.JR: I am willing to pass it if I can raise it

again when Mr. McCloy comes. How will that be?
GEN. HILLDRING: Fine.
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MR. CLAYTON: All right, sir, fine. I think it is

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-7H.M.JR: We are on a subject that needs your assis-

H.M. I still would like to raise it when Mr.
McCloy comes. Do you want to say anything, Mr. Crowley's

MR. CROWLEY: Just this: There would be no harm in
Eisenhower using this immediately for the area we are
going to occupy.
MR. CLAYTON: That is what I thought.

MR. CROWLEY: If we don't use it for the area he is
going to occupy, there may be long delay before you get

an agreement from the Russians.

H.M.J I an wholly in accord with you, but if this
is thrown in the European Advisory Council, It is going
to make It much more difficult for Eisenhower to function.

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MR. CROWLEY: I wasn't disagreeing with that. What I
meant was while you are waiting to get an agreement with
the Russians Eisenhower should use It in the area.
H.M. JR: At once?
MR. CROWLEY: At once.

H.M. Absolutely.
GEN. HILLDRING: At once--wo would send it to him at
once no matter whether he was negotiating or not.
H.M.JR: You know what I have in my mind, and I should
think you would be in agreement th me.
GEN. HILLDRING: Mr. Secretary, I am sorry I can't
say anything about the EAC, except this is the thing that
haunts Eisenhower, and as his local agent, I an supposed to
bespeak his worries. What disturbs him more than anything

else is the fact that he is about to enter into a participation

in the Government in the whole of Germany without any agreed

plan.

(Mr. McCloy enters the conference.)

tance. May I state it? Is it all right?
JR. CLAYTON: Yes, air.

H.M.JR: Mr. Clayton just read this document, which I
think by and large is an excellent one, and I congratulate
the people who prepared it. In the first paragraph I raised
this thing, and General Hilldring said he needs a little
help, that If this document, when we agree on it this week,
is sent to the European Advisory Commission and they fuss
around with this thing and maddy the water 80 that when
General Eisenhower gets instructions we are agreed on
this--I raised the point whether the European Advisory
Commission shouldn't be by-passed and it should go to
General Eisenhower for his responsibility to take it up with his
opposite numbers, the three generals representing the three
countries with which they do business so that it is only a
matter of weeks and they won't get anywhere. They will just
fuss around over there In London, the European Advisory Com-

mission, and make it more difficult for him to function.
That is the way. Isn't that about the point?
Mr. CLAYTON: Yes.

MR. McCLOY: Well, as a practical matter, If we handle
this the same way as 1067, this will go out as the American
instructions to General Eisenhower, who will put it into
effect in the Control Commission actively. I don't mean
the Control Commission, I mean the Advisory Commission, EAC.
So I don't see why are couldn't follow the same practice
that we followed with 1067. We know from experience that
for one reason or another the EAC hasn't been able to function

expeditiously on these things. I don't believe they are

ever going to get around to this document before we move
to the Control Council level, anyway, but rather than bypass them and perhaps cause repercussions by doing so,
would think we would avoid any difficulty by simply following
the same procedure me followed with 1067.
MR. CLAYTON: Which would be to send this direct to
General Eisenhower at once for his guidance in his zone and
also send it to the EAC for consideration by the representatives

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them.

MR. McCLOY: We will get in more trouble by by-passing

H.M.JR: All right, you are the doctor.

MR. McCLOY: That is exactly what Eisenhower intended

to do with 1067, and that is what he is going to do until

he gets a new 1067.

said.

H.M. JR: I am not satisfied yet 88 to what the machinery
is the State Department has in mind to terminate EAC.

here?

MR. CLAYTON: Te read the document through, as we

MR. McCLOY: You read all this while I have been coming

MR. CLAYTON: The political and military--

MR. RIDDLEBERGER: We have no machinery in mind yet,

Mr. Secretary. I don't know exactly when we can terminate
it. Under the Moscow protocol there are surrender terms
and their implementation. However, governments can refer
to it any other questions they so desire. To date, they

MR. McCLOY: Yes.

MR. CLAYTON: And that includes paragraph fifteen. It
was read that way so we could save time and could go immediately
to those points where there was any difference and just dis-

haven't done it. But if the British, for example, were to

come in with a proposal that EAC take up this and that question, technically, they can do it under the Moscow protocol.

cuss those points. Now, the first one is with reference
to paragraph eight of this document, which is the criminal

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H.M.JR: Mr. McCloy, would you be worried if this goes
to Eisenhower and EAC that it would make it more difficult

The Treasury proposes the following change. They
would delete from the last sub-paragraph of paragraph eight
the sentence which reads, "If you deem it desirable, you
may postpone the arrest of those cases you have reported.
So it will be understood, I will read the whole paragraph.
"If in the light of conditions which you encounter in Germany
you believe that certain persons within these categories
should not be subjected immediately to this treatment, you
should report your reasons and recommendations to the Joint
Chiefs of Staff.

for Eisenhower?

MR. McCLOY: No, I don't think they are going to get
around to it.
think.

MR. RIDDLEBERGER: They will never get to it, I don't

MR. McCLOY: I wouldn't worry about it, and I wouldn't
take the other alternative of deliberately by-passing them,

because they would be provoked.

Now, the Treasury proposes that the next sentence be
deleted, "If you deem it desirable, you may postpone the
arrest of those whose cases you have reported.

H.M. JR: You are not bothered?
MR. McCLOY: General, do you agree?

GEN. HILLDRING: I agree. That is what I was trying

to say when you came in.

H.M. JR: God, I do work hard for the Army, but I don't
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GEN. HILLDRING: May I speak on that point? I think
that that is the Mar Department's suggestion, that sentence,
and I want to say first that the lar Department doesn't
object at all to the philosophy enunciated above in the
paragraph, and I am sure that no soldier will object to
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as rapidly as they can get their hands on them. I want
to call your attention to the fact that some day--we are
already getting a larger number of prisoners of NET--SS
many, perhaps, as we can handle as prisoners of war.
Certainly there will come & time when with five or six
million soldiers of various kinds in uniform we will arrive
at & point where it will be impossible with the means at
hand to treat then as prisoners of war. There will be too
many. It will take the whole aray of occupation to keep
these troops packed together. It is inescapable that before
now and the hour of total defeat Eisenhower will have to
hold together wi th his own organization souse of the military
units.

GEN. HILLDRING: Turning the underground loose in

is a delicate issue we have not yet faced. We

have Germany to hold this German Army together, and we can't do
it by treating the German Army as we do, the few together hundred

thousand prisoners of war that we have gathered

in this country. We can't treat eight or ten million

Germans as prisoners of war. We have to use the organization,
the German Army to do it.

Now, there is one point that is going to 08-H.M.JR: That doesn't say that there.
GEN. HILLDRING: What does it say, Mr. Secretary?

(Mr. Bell leaves the conference.)
GEN. HILLDRING: If he doesn't, he is going to
precipitate a problem for himself which both administratively
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and otherwise will be highly objectionable. I think we will
all agree that we don't want the German Army to demobilize
itself. We want to demobilize it in accordance with our

purposes, and at the same time as decided by us.

Now, if we tell Eisenhomer to lock up all of the SS
officers which they have of all SS divisions as soon as he
gets hold of one of those SS divisions, he has under the
terms of this document got to immediately arrest all the
officers in the division, so he has remaining ten thousand
enlisted men that he has no way of controlling. And we
say the SS officers should be arrested, you see.

H.M.JR: Well, I mean there are a lot of words here
that would be an out for anybody to let out the whole
business.

GEN. HILLDRING: Well, sir, I-H.M. JR: If you are talking about demobilization,
you have said is quite different than what this paragraph
what says here; there are & lot of measel words. They could
do anything.

GEN. HILLDRING: They can't do anything without immediately
notifying us, Mr. Secretary.

entirely in the field of demobilization people. of the German Army

MR. McCLOY: And you have got to be perfectly realistic
about this thing. There is an enormous category of people
here estimated from two to three million that you have got
arrest. You will have displaced persons coming out by
to the tens of thousands. There are problems in Europe that
nobody has any conception of until you are there, and the
idea of imposing on General Eisenhower the rigid restrictions
that he has got to take care of three million more people
matter what his problems are is just improper from the

making it impossible for Eisenhower to demobilize the German

no standpoint of administration. You have given him the let tone,

But we think in that instance if we say to Eisenhower
rather than turn these SS enlisted men loose on the world
around Germany at will, it is better to leave that division
in charge of some of its officers until he has time to put

them under the control of other And it is almost
that we have put this reservation in. Otherwise, we are

Army as we want it demobilized. I want to call your
attention to the fact that the future underground of Germany
is today manned--comstituted in the arnedforces of Germany.

(Mr. Bell enters the conference.)

the type of people he must arrest. He isn't going to
the whole kit and kaboodle out. He sees the problem.

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flexibility to administer properly the most difficult problem
anybody has been faced with since Calvary.

MR. CLAYTON: There is a lot to be said for that,
Mr. Secretary. You take, for example, you not only ask
him to arrest all officials, Army, Government, and everybody who has Nazi leanings, but you say Nazis and Mazi

sympathizers holding information and key positions in
their commerce, agriculture, and finance. And with all
these other organizations you are going to get there an
enormous army that is going to have to be arrested and put
under lock and key or taken care of, supervised in some

way. It is going to be a terrific job, I think.

H.M.JR: Look, couldn't this paragraph be rewritten
along the lines General Hilldring says in connection with
the demobilization of the Army?
MR. McCLOY: No, that is only one part of it.

H.M.JR: This thing is an out to give an officer in
charge of A village not to arrest anybody.
MR. COE: As a matter of fact, the Army doesn't seen
to be included under this paragraph.
GEN. HILLDRING: You have got all general staff corps
officers, one hundred thousand officers.
MR. GLASSER: The first sentence in B says-MR. McCLOY: Every one of then is to be arrested and
they are the ones-GEN. HILLDRING: You take every officer in the SS.
MR. RIDDLEBERGER: And non-commissioned officer.

GEN. HILLDRING: And non-conmissioned officer.

MR. COE: Isn't the arrest and incarceration and renoval

from positions of influence of the SS a pretty and

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GEN. HILLDRING: Absolutely. The only thing is, they
are going to arrest them.
MR. McCLOY: We don't say we are not going to arrest
them, but give the fellow with responsibility some freedom

to act BE against putting in jail willy nilly two or three
do it. You wouldn't do it in this country.

hundred people. In & didministering a country you just can't

MR. CLAYTON: This says on that that if in the light

of conditions which you encounter in Germany you believe
that certain persons within these categories should not be
subjected immediately, you see, to this treatment, you should
report, and so forth.

GEN. HILLDRING: It is only the timing we are talking
about.

MR. COE: Do you have anything in mind besides soldiers?

MR. McCLOY: Yes, yes. I went into the city of
Frankfurt the other day, and the fellow in charge of the
water system the only fellow left, was a Nazi, and they
didn't know how the pipes led into the city in order to get
at them to repair the place. They got hold of him and used
him, and some correspondent came along. They didn't use
him as an official that issued any orders, but just collared
him and said, "Non, look, I want you to sit in this chair,
and I want you to run this water business until we get it
settled. Some correspondent came ong and said, "he is
a Nazi, and there is news account of the thing. And
a neek later the fellow--after he got the thing located, he
cleared out and they sent him about his business, but that
fellow did absolutely right. There were people dying for
want of water in Frankfurt, displaced persons, our friends
and our own prisoners as well as the Germans.

of course, you have got to be practical about that.
And at the end of a week or ten days he put in a fellow
that didn't know anything about the water system, but they
had the plan and could really operate on that, but he
couldn't have arrested the Nazi immediately.

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H.M.JR: Are you through? Would you gentlemen take
this paragraph and say, "Report your recommendations or
reasons to the Supreme Commander, whatever it is?" I have
in mind Eisenhower and the Joint Chiefs of Staff in this

country. I en't that right?

MR. McCLOY: That is right.
H.M.JR: "Report your reason or recommendation to
General Eisenhower, period, and then leave out the next

position in industry, commerce, and finance in Germany
before you had somebody else to put in his place, I think
the wheels would all stop. I don't think you would be
able to do anything.
MR. McCLOY: You have got to give Eisenhower also the

discretion before he determines that he can arrest three
million people when he has got twelve million people.

H.M.JR: All the things you are saying--1 don't think
it is worded well.

sentence.

MR. McCLOY: What is wrong?

MR. COE: You couldn't do that, because this is to
him. This is a directive to Eisenhower. It may be to
the Control Council.
MR. CLAYTON: You see, Mr. Secretary, this is directive

to General Eisenhower.

MR. CROWLEY: I think what the Secretary of the Treasury
has in mind is that you may be able to get around this by
having this top committee review this thing after they get
a chance to get in there. If Eisenhower goes in and carries

out in general principle who this thing outlines, there is
going to be no complaint. But if someone under Eisenhower

GEN. HILLDRING: From the JCS to Eisenhower.
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MR. McCLOY: And he determines whether these fellows

are to be arrested or not. If he says they shouldn't be
arrested after considering conditio in the field brought
to him, he is a man of political acumen, character, and
integrity, and he will carry out policy. But if he in
his Judgment feels he can't do his job properly if he

he
out
and him
discretion

arrests the Joint all Chiefs these of people Staff willy you nilly, give points the it to

to suspend the arrest until he gets further word from here,
and that seems, with the job such as you are giving General

Eisenhower, that if you don't give him that discretion, it
is almost fantastic. I talked to General Eisenhower about
this. This came from General Eisenhower, that telegram
that I sent.
GEN. HILLDRING: Yes.

MR. CLAYTON: I think that if you take in industry,
commerce, and finance, I think from what a good many of us
know about Germany, that if you would go on the basis of
going in there and immediately resting and incarcerating
every Nezi or Nazi sympathizer holding an important or key

starts to eliminate this fellow and that fellow and plays
favorities, that is what I see you object to. You have to
have complete confidence in the fellow that is going to run
this job, because the authority is so vast, as I see it, that
unless be is the type of person that is going to carry out
and is in sympathy with your directives generally, you are
in bad shape. And I think free our standpoint that we have
got to be sure that the man is Eisenhower that takes care
of our area, that we do 8 good job in our own area, because
you never can get along with your fellow associates if we
don' do a good job ourselves, and I would--if you can
rework that language--but I would be satisfied If on that

particular thing we reserve the right to review with the
Chiefs

of

Staff

if

it

is

not

being

carried

out,

in

other

words, that we might know something about what his policy
is on relieving these people, on deferring, or delaying

their arrest as to how he is doing it and what type of
person he is, and things like that after he has had
chance to operate.

GEN. HILLDRING: In that connection, the report from
SHAEF that came in this week--the leading paragraph is
paragraph from SHAEF which says, "The wisdom of the policy

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of immediate and complete denaxification of Germany has

been deconstrated or the ground; it is a wise provision,
and we are pursuing it with all vigor." They weren't
sure of this policy over there when we first gave it to
them. They weren't sure it was administratively possible,
but they have come now to support it as avidly es we did
in our directive to Eisenhower in 551. I don't think we
will have any difficulty with sincere and honest execution
of this policy.
H.N.. JR: Could something like this, carrying out what
take it that this Is a sort
I
am
not
sure we
can
Mr. of standing Crowley said, committee.
possibly--I
get it Legitimetized by the President, but how would this be to frame this
thing? Here we are, doing the best we can, State, Treasury,
War, FEA, and Navy, and if General Einenhower should find
that he needs to postpone carrying this out, he would refer

this to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the civilian committee
for prompt advi the Joint Chiefs of Staff that consult

MR. McCLOY: Say that this may be subject to change

from time to time, and especially this discretion here in
dealing with NOT criminals, and that just a note back and
forth would take care of that.
H.M. If there was a note of communication from

this committee--

VR. KeCLOY: ...to the Joint Chiefs of Staff--

H.M.JR: saying this committee would like to be oon-

sulted, that would be agreeable to me.

MR. CLAYTON: Would this language do it? This is just

. suggested change in the drafting, If in the light of

conditions which you encounter in Germany you believe that

it is not immediately feasible to subject certain persons
within these categories to this treatment, you should

report your reasons and recommendations to your Government

through the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

H.M.JR: That is an improvement.

with us on that.

MR. CLAYTON "If you believe it desirable, you may

$

GEN. BILLDRING: Mr. Secretary, when we say the Joint

Chiefs of Staff in this document, we are giving him the

exigency of our Federal Government for whom he immedia tely

works. When this question cases to the Joint Chiefs of

Staff, they will immediately turn it over to the Interdepartmental Committee. They won't arrive at any-MR. CROWLEY: That is what you want.

GEN. HILLDRING: They won't arrive at any decision on
this thing.

MR. McCLOY: That couldn't be in this directive.
H.M.JR: Couldn't there be a note going to the Joint
Chiefs of Staff saying, "In case this thing takes place,
refer it to us immediately*
MR. CROWLEY: I think you can go further then that. I
think in your note, Jack, you can say-1.M.JR: That would satisfy me.

postpone the arrest of those whose cases you have reported.

it up.

H.M. JR: "Pending hearing from them." Does that clear
MR. McCLOY: that I and anxious to do, and what Eisenhower

wants, is to have the right to hold up these arrests pending
further determination from the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
H.M.JR: This doesn't say that.
MR. COE: Couldn't we say that at the and of this
sentence, *Pending determination from the Joint Chiefs of

Staff?"

GEN. HILLDRING: That is the intention of the language.

H.M.JR: Then let's say it.

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MR. CLAYTON: All right, put it right at the end,
"Pending determination by the Joint Chiefs of Staff-MR. DESPRES: "...by your Government."

MR. DOWNEY: I think we feel that conclusion is satisfactory, Mr. Secretary.
H.M.JR: It is . tough crowd here. I have never worked
with you fellows, but unless you talk louder, you will be

overlooked.

MR. McCLOY: "Pending a decision communicated to you

MR. McCLOY: Louder and oftener.

from the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
NR. CLAYTON: "Pending

H.M. JR: Is that all right with you? And then would

somebody draft it?

MR. BELL: Does that preclude him from taking any
action if he subsequently says they should be arrested?
MR. McCLOY: Then he would no longer think it WHB

desirable. The basis is wiped out.

H.M.JR: How does it read now?

MR. CLAYTON: "If in the light of conditions while
you encounter In Germany you believe that it la not immediately fensible to subject certain persons within these
categories to this treatment, you should report your reasons
and recommendations to your Government through the Joint Chiefs

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of Staff. If you believe it desirable, you may postpone the

H.M.JR: It is to go to the Joint Chiefs of Staff that

this committee is to be consulted.

MR. McCLOY: It doesn't do any harm to send communica-

tions to the Chairman of this committee and the Joint Chiefs
of Staff saying, "If this thing comes up, please consult us."
They will consult us, anyway.
H.M.JR: I would like very much to have the-GEN. HILLDRING: In the Interdepartmental Committee

arrest of those whose cases you have reported, pending .
decision communicated to you by the Joint Chiefs of Staff."

all that the Chairman has to do is tell McCarthy to send

MR. COE: I think we ought to esphasize that it is

MR. CLAYTON: Be can send a letter then to the Bar
Department--to Stimson--and ask if he would do that.

to be through the JCS.
H.M.JR: That?

MR. McCLOY: That doesn't make . bit of difference.
GEN. HILLDRING: No, because you can't get the Joint

Chiefs of S.aff to make any political decision; they just
don't do it.
MR. VcCLOY: That isn't anything that should be in

this paper artistically at least. It should be in a different
one.

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KR. CLAYTON: We have it here, and--

H.M.JR: Navy? In this crowd you have got to talk up
if you want to be heard.

such letter.

it?

H.N.JR: This is the Interdepartmental Committee, isn't
MR. McCLOY: Just a bunch of guys named Joe as far 8.8

I all concerned that are meeting today, just the people
interested in this.

MR. CROWLEY: Just . bunch of fellows who got together.

Isn't that it?

MR. CLAYTON: The next question is that the Treasury
asks that the following new sentence be added to the end
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written, and they ask the addition of this sentence, "In

no event shall any differentiation be made between or
special consideration be accorded to persons arrested

Ither as to manner of arrest or conditions of detention
upon the basis of wealth or political diplomatic, industrial, or other rank or position.
MR. CROWLEY: In other words, they all go to the
hoosegow together.

H.K. JR: That would take care of Von Papen.
MR. McCLOY: I wouldn't know about that. They had

Von Papen in B vills. I didn't see him, but I heard they
had him in a villa under guard. They didn't put him down
in the common hoosegow.

H.M.JR: Why not?

MR. McCLOY: That was a determination they made; they

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were trying to get some stuff out of him--some information.
That WAS one reason. They thought they could probably get
some information.

H.M.JR: We thought this was democratic with . small D.
MR. McCLOY: I think you are putting limitations on
the manner of apprehension on the administrative officer
in the field that is unnecessary. You may very well, for
one reason or another, want to treat one prisoner differently
from another.

MR. DOWNEY: Doesn't the Geneva Convention have some

bearing on that, General?

GEN. HILLDRING: I don't think it has. I would think
not.

MR. RIDDLEHERGER: Or other rank or position--that is

very broad.

GEN. HILLDRING: Under the Geneva Convention, putting--

MR. McCLOY: Tie will have inspections. The prisons
will be run under the military system, and we will have
see

normal
routine
inspections.
They
that I there
no abuses
of this
sort of thing
thatwill
is done.
mean,are
you
won't have any favoritis in running the prisons. There
may be ime when you may want to put a fellow who has some
scientific information or industrial information in 8 vills
and give him some cigars.

GEN. HILLDRING: I think there should be included in

that, certainly this, "Except for intelligence purposes.

MR. COE: That amendment would certainly not be out of

spirit, out of the intention of this, because our intention

is simply to have it done in . democratic may, which is the
way the people would want it done, and we think that the
tendency will be to discriminate--tuat was the basis in
Italy--unless you say something to them. But if you say
something to them, they won't discriminate, if you want to
do it for intelligence purposes.

MR. CROWLEY: You had in mind no discrimination unless

there were justifiable circumstances, and intelligence may
not be all of them.
MR. McCLOY: You may have others.

H.K.JR: That did they do in Italy?
MR. COE: In Italy in general they started out with
better treatment by rank. The British have that very marked
in their thing all the way through on this defascist tification
and denarification. Unless you go after these main problem
people and treat then as you intend the generality to be
treated, they will get special consideration, and the first
thing you know, that will degenerate into leaving then in
positions of importance. We could put an exception in there,
Except for intelligence or other military purposes.
MR. KcCLOY: how about diplomatic rank?

H.M.JR: Why the hell should & diplomat be treated any differently? Take 6 fellow like Von Paper who is a vicious person-why should that nan get special treatment? He should

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H.M.JR: Why should a fellow like Von Paper get
treated any differently?

get especially harsh treatment, and not especially good
treatment. Why should a diplomat be treated any differently
from anybody else? I can't see it.

MR. McCLOY: That is something for Eisenhower to determine. I think Von Papen--I have suffered at the hands of
Von Papen, personally, and I know all about his wickedness,
and I don want to be in the false position of arguing in
favor of a high-class Nazi, but I as thinking about your
trying to tell Aisenhower how he shall run the prisons.
You have got here, number five, "Officials of the police
holding a rank, or equivalent positions of authority, above
that of Lieutenant. That is irrespective of whether he

MR. CLAYTON: They treat ours differently. It is kind
of a gentlemen's agreement.

MR. CROWLEY: Fraternity, if you will.

H.M.JR: It is time it is stopped, I think. These

is vicious character or not. He gets arrested. It may

people are outside the pale. I had three Treasury people
In the Philippines, and two of them died. I couldn't get
then any diplomatic status, and why diplomats should come
out and Treasury people and others starve to death, I don't
see it. I don't see why they should get any different

very well be that Eisenhower would want to put that fellow
in a protective custody status rather than an inner dungeon.
H.M.JR: Let's come back to two.

treatment than anybody else.

MR. CROWLEY: Why couldn't you do this: "In no event

MR. CLAYTON: I don't know but what you are right
there, Mr. Secretary.
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shall any differentiation be made or special consideration
be accorded? If you here to change that around and use
that same language and say that they shall not be given
special consideration solely on account of the related
factors that you mentioned, that would give him the right
to use discretion, but wouldn't do it entirely because of

H.M.JR It burned me up, but I couldn't get my
Treasury people out. And two of these poor fellows died
of starvation and maltrestment just because they were
Treasury people and they weren't diplomats.

those factors.

MR. JAYTON: I am just speaking from the point of view
of custom. It seems to me that there is a much broader
principle involved than that, and that is that we should
leave . high degree of decision to General Eisenhower, the
nan who is in charge of the whole thing and who will have

H.M.JR: That is all right. Let's get it down and
see what it looks like. Do one thing at a time.

In they

to

deal

with

conditions

as

he

finds

them,

whic

are

KR. COE: I would propose, "With such exceptions as
you may find necessary for intelligence or other purposes,

probably

you will insure that.

going to be altogether different from what we, sitting here

MR. CLAYTON: I would think that would be all right.

washington
they
to be.me
in all I think these
change
from today,
day toanticipate
day, and
it will
seens
matters we ought to leave a good deal of discretion to
him. Let him know what our general policies and principles
are, and then let him carry then out with intelligent and
vigor, which I think he will do.

H.M. What about Von Papen? Didn't he once negotiate
& little something over in this country?
MR. McCLOY: He certainly did. I would like to get
a crack at him.

MR. McCLOY: It is all right. All I an talking about

is giving him some leemay.

MR. CLAYTON: Is that agreeable, Mr. Secretary?

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MR. CLAYTON: I think it starts out--it would be better
at the end, wouldn't it, Frank?
MR. COE: Yes.

MR. CLAYTON: Then it would read, "In no event shall
any differentiation be made between or special consideration
be accorded to persons arrested either as to manner of
arrest or condition of detention upon the basis of wealth

or political, diplomatic, industrial, or other rank or

position, with such exceptions as in your discretion you
may deem advisable for intelligence or other purposes.

Is that all right?

H.M.JR: It is O.K. with me.
that--

MR. CLAYTON: If everybody is agreeable, then I think

H.M.JH: That takes care of the diplomats. (Laughter)
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MR. RIDDLE BERGER: I would like to rise in defense of
the diplomats. As the only professional one here, I would
like to say this, that in Germany--you may have had some left
in the Philippines, but in Germany the Treasury people came
out, and we stayed behind. I wented to make that point. I
WBS engaged in taking care of the interests of the prisoners
of WAI of our allies, the French and British in Berlin, and
you very kindly lent us your assistance--th assistance of
your personnel there until 1940, when you jerked then out
from under me, just like that. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: Where were we?

MR. McCLOY: will was reading.
H.M.JR: We accepted that.
MR. McCLOY: We finished paragraph eight.

MR. CLAYTON: That is all.

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MR. McCLOY: I think it is a good document.

H.M.JR: May I r efer you to page ten, Mr. Clayton,
the top of page ten, "To the extent that military Interests
are not prejudiced and subject to the provisions of the
three preceding subperagraphs and of paragraph 10, freedom

of speech press and religious worship will be permitted.
You say, To the extent of military interests, and then
"Consistent with military necessity, all religious institutions will be respected.
MR. CIAYTON: I all sorry, but I have a different draft
from yours.

MR. McCLOY: What paragraph is that?
MR. CLAYTON: Seven, or eight?

H.M.JR: Nine, D. You first say, "To the extent that
military interests are not prejudiced. I can understand
that, and then you go on and say, "Consistent th military
necessity, all religious institutions will be respected.
I would like the soldier to describe to me what the military
necessity is.

MR. McCLOY: You wouldn't requisition it. That is what

he is really getting at. You will do your best.

H.M.JR: Above you say, "To the extent that military
interests are not prejudiced.

It the we

MR. McCLOY: That isn't in relation to religious worship,
but property--Catholic church property, and things of that
kind. isget
general
with have the
had Catholic everywhere
we
toprinciple
dickering,
particularly
properties, or other church properties. In Italy it was Catholic, and

we like to give the instructions to the field tist so far

65 they can be consistent with military necessity they don't
interfere with that.
MR. CLAYTON: Suppose we say, "All religious property,"

instead of "institutions"? Does that meet your point?

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MR. CLAYTON: They might have to requisition some

property, you see.

H.M.JR: I see. I EBC thinking of interference with
religious observance.

MR. McCLOY: That is taken care of in the first sentence.
MR. RIDDLE BERGER: The reason this says institutions
is because they may not always OWD the property.

H.M.JR: I didn't know what the military necessity
was in relation to worship.
MR. McCLOY: No. NO don't intend--

MR. CLAYTON: There is just one question here that

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bothers me 8 little, and that is closely related to the
criminal one, eight; it comes in section six, denazification.
"All members of the Nazi party who have been more than

nominal participants in its activities, all active supporters
of Nazian or militarism and all other persons hostile to

Allied purposes will be removed and excluded from public
office and from positions of importance in quasi-public and
private enterprises such 6.8 (1) civic, economic and labor

organizations, (2) corporations and other organizations in

which the German government or subdivisions have a major

financial interest, (3) industry, conserce, agriculture,
and finance. lie have the same problem there, I think,

wi th respect to an uninterrupted continuation of the economy
of the country, the necessary economy of the country, the
services, and so forth, that be had about putting these
people in jail. If we remove them from these positions
before you have somebody else to put in their places, you
may seriously interrupt very essential services and facilities
for production and transportation, and so forth.

MR. CROWLEY: will, I would think that If you start
off with the thought in mind that you are going to leave
these fellows there, that the men and the people administering
it--it is going to be easier for them to leave the people in

Then take them out, and I think you would be better off to

these and that gone

spell it out as to your principle that you are going to
remove
people,
the certainly ones--that
aftertop
theymay
have be
on
and
energetically
removed

after you have your jails and your courts and everything all
cluttered up. When you get down to the second or third
level, then you may use some discretion in leaving men in
to do a particular thing, because you have to have that know-

ledge, but if you try to spell this thing out now, emporize
with it, I can see that you come out with this thing that
those boys stay in there forever. I think you ought to
spell out your principle, and later on, after you have collected together as many of these top people as you can, then

if you want to review It in two, three, or four months, or
something like that, you can review it. But unless you are
positive that you are going to eliminate these follows,
they will play footy-footy and be in there a year or ten
years from today. They will tire you all out the way they
will throw rocks in your machinery.
H.M.JR: I think what you say is very wise.

MR. ATTON: Well, you have to recognize this, I think,
Mr. Secretary, that the men in important and key positions
in all these activities are Nazia and Nazi sympathizers.
Now, supposing you go in there and you have a list of them
and you kick them all out at once, transportation, railroads,
and Industries of all kinds before you have satisfactory

people to put in their places, you are likely to effect

serious interruption of the economy of the country which
would react on our occupying forces and on the ability of
the people to provide the minimum standard of living.

H.M.JR: I would like to answer that if I may. I

think if after each category you immediately put In a
peragraph saying, "Exceptions would much rather use
that exception which we argued about, being referred to the
Chiefs of Staff-having it at the end than having it over
all.

MR. CLAYTON: So would I, if it is agreeable to you.
MR. CROWLEY: That is right.

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MR. COE: That is mitigated by two facts. First, .
lot of them will run. Second, when we do the fighting, we
certainly disrupt it anyway through there.
Now, I think with Mr. McCley that this thing is so
deep-rooted that unless you do it--it WAS at his insistence,
his advice, that we put In that last sentence, "No such person
shall be retained because of administrative necessity, convenience, or expediency, because it is the overwhelming tendency to have the officials on the spot, to retain them for
those purposes, and you have to go to the other direction to

H.M.JR: Just have it once.
MR. CROWLEY: You declare your whole policy and then

put in the last paragraph making your exceptions.
H.M.JR: If some of this doesn't work, you can refer

it to the Chiefs of Staff and tell him why.
MR. CROWLEY: That is right.

MR. McCLOY: We are very much interested in this

counteract that.

particular thing. I would talk, I think, against that a
little until I saw how this thing moved in Italy. I think

this is 8 good paragraph as it is. We are going to have
inefficiency in Germany There
is no question
about
economic
inefficiency
as ait.result

butgoing
this Nazi
There of this is policy,
to be great policy is very deep-seated.

we are situs-

You have to take drastic and deep-seated methods to cut

it out, and this will probably not interfere th the case

to use man

in tion Frankfurt where you that have got talking this about, the to get temporary the first

train running, then put him in jail and then kick him out.
I have seen it operate in Italy under language not qui
the sane as this, but somember similar to this, and would
rather hesitate to see any further loosening of this until
we have been in the picture for a while and have dealt with
this very deep-seated cancer that exists in Geruany.

big services and these big industries if you take all the
key people out, all the know-hom people-- throw them out

before you have somebody to put in their places, I think

VR. CLAYTON: That is what this in practice says.
MR. CROWLEY: But administratively you have to do it
as quickly as you can; I assume you are going to give the
men the right of administering it.
MR. McCLOY: It would not in practice preclude the

Frankfurt case I gave. I said, "Of course, you can do that,
but get the fellow out as soon as he has shown you where

the faucet turns off.

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MR. CLAYTON: I don't think, Jack, you give enough
importance to the absolute necessity of management in these

MR. CROBLEY: You wouldn't issue an executive order to
O.K. this afternoon throwing all these people out.

MR. CLAYTON: If this in practice--

H.M.JR: Well, I remove ay sissy attitude.
MR. McCLOY: Well, in 8 sense we are talking against
ourselves in that, because we are responsible for the
administration where the military government exists, and
would think we ought to arr on the other side in Germany
because all our experience is that the thing is such more
deep-seated than we had any comprehension of.

MR. CLAYTON: I agree with that clause.

MR. CROWLEY: The only thing I had in my mind is, while

you are dealing with people, if you told a fellow he could
sell the Willard Hotel for nine million dollars or negotiate
for nine hundred thousand doilars inveriably he would make
the deal that way and say it is the best he can get. Administratively we know that these fellows are going to have to
go alow, that there isn't any reason to make It easier for
them to go slow. And I think that your language there is
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and so would I.

it is going to take him some time before he gets around to
certain key places, but nevertheless he has a directive to
do it as rapidly as he can.

MR. McCLOY: That doesn't mean that you can't collar

this fellow and say, "You tell me what to do. You can
do that.

Now, If we spell it out and make a lot of excuses for
delaying it, he will be slower in getting it done.

him

H.M.JR: Do I understand this is acceptable to everybody in this room?

MR. CLAYTON: 1 imagine he is the type of man who will

out directives like this, which is in very precise

GEN. HILLDRING: There is one point I would like to
raise: The language in paragraph eight, Mr. Clayton,
paragraph seven-A--that has been changed in our draft at
my suggestion, and I just didn't get the wording. I would

carry language, with a good deal of discretion. If he will, then if

I think it is probably all right, but I do believe that
this were executed 88 it reads you will have plenty of
trouble in Germany. If it is satisfactory to the Army, it

like to get it.

is satisfactory to me.

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MR. McCLOY: Administratively we won't do as good 6
job with this by long odds, but you have got to break the
chain somewhere. You have got to get somebody into a job
quickly who is going to take the place of the Nazi sympathizer,
and there is always a second-rate man around. No man, BE
we all know, is indespensable, and you will find somebody
down the line, a foreman who never did the thing before, but
who will perhaps grow with the job. The tendency is so
strong the other way that I would rather lean over this way.

MR. RIDDLE BERCER I can give it to you, General, if

you would like it.
GEN. HILLDRING: We want to drop the idea of immediately
disbanding.

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MR. McCLOY: The have never tackled the question of
how rapidly we should disband the German Army.

MR. IDDLEBERGER: "In your zone you will assure that
the German armed forces, including para-military organizations
are promptly demobilized and disbanded in accordance with
policies and procedures set forth in the Instrument of
Unconditional Surrender or in other directives which may
be issued to you. Prior to disbandment you will arrest and
hold all military personnel who are included under the
provisions of paragraph 8.

GEN. HILLDRING: I think I. G. Farben is a good example

that. I thanked God at the time that the story came
out that we had told Eisenhower to clean those fellows out,

of

and under that pressure when the Army went in there and SATE

this large plant I think their instincts were to let it alone

for the time; under their strict instructions they moved
Farben out, but they told a few of them, "You 20 to your
house and stay there. This is big shop you have turned
to us, and we sent to talk to you, but they had cleaned
over out and taken then out of the establishment. A newspaper

GEN. HILLDRING: That is all right.
MR. RIDDLEBERGER That is acceptable.

man them got hold of I. G. Farben and he said, "I am adviser to

Military Government officer. Well, fortunately he
the out of office. He WES there to help and advise if they

MR. McCLOY: There WB S this thought they had on the

other side on paragraph eight, but I think it is probably
taken care of when you throw out . dragnet and bring all
these fellows in. You will get some that are not properly
detained. That paragraph five, for example, says--Eisenhower

was eeded his help and advice, but he was shut up in a house

n around the corner where they could get at him if they wanted
to know where the faucet was. But if you hadn't had that

policy to get rid of those Nazis, they would have left
that fellow in charge of that plant for a week or two, or

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said, "How about setting up 8 court at which these fellows
could make their applications and prove their non-Nazi
aspect and character? In the interest of causon justice
and decency we ought to hear their case, because this is
a very rough form of justice we are applying here. It is

a thumb rule that isn't in accord with our ordinary instincts."

There never has been any decision as to how we handle them
once we round them up.

MR. CROWLEY: You wouldn't have any trouble in convicta man that was a Nazi leader or a man that was a high-up
ing in the party. But supposing they went up and picked up

I am inclined to think that there is something in the
point, but I think that probably we have taken care of it

fellow working on . farm or in a store. Would you throw
him in a jug and keep him there indefini tely and say, "Someone told me that you are a Nazi?

to
the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Now, what do you think of
that?

MR. KcCLOY: No, no, it is all in paragraph eight.
Everybody in paragraph eight they are the ones we are

in the provision that enables his to make & recommendation

that?

MR. COE: I think so, yes.

talking about. That said, "You will search out, arrest,
and hold, pending receipt by you of further instructions
to their disposition, Adolph Hitler, his chief Nazi

MR. McCLOY: What do you, State Department, think bout

as associates, other war criminals and all persons who have

MR. DESPRES: As it now reads, I don't think-C

it on the shoulders of the Army as to what happens next.

MR. McCLOY: Has proposal WAS a court that would--

this is an arbi trary rule--not attempt to reach 8 rough
approximation of justice to take care of individual cases.

Let these people appear before a tribunal and take burden

of proof of showing that they are all right.

participated in planning or carrying out Nazi enterprises That

Involving or resulting in atrocities or war crimes.
is one section.

MR. CROWLEY: That is all the cop does.

H.M.JR: Then, "All persons who, if permitted to remain
large would endanger the accomplishment of your objectives
at will also be arrested and held in custody. The following be

is a partial list of the categories of persons to
arrested in order to carry out this polley.

MR. CLAYTON: I think that is all right.
MR. DILE BERGER You mean before you arrest them?

MR. McCLOY: No, his idea was that this would be a
means by which they got out of their durance.
MR. CROWLEY: You would give then a chance at that?

And then he goes down through eleven different categories, but

they look on the surface 85 If they are bad actors,
and there are lots of individuals in there that are not bad actors.
GEN. HILLDRING: They are going to town, Mr. McCley.
are going to do this town by town and send military and
They police battalions and detachments of CIC into a town

MR. McCLOY: There is no provision for that now; you
just detain them.

that up. Somebody might say, "This fellow who runs

clean store was a so and so before the war, and the
M.P.'s the corner will go down and grab him. He professes and says

MR. CROWLEY: You arrest a fellow and convict him, and

that would be the end of it.

MR. RIDDLE BERGER: That has always been our problem in

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that section; we round these people up and we have just le ft

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that they are wrong, but he goes into the Black Maria, and
off be goes to camp, and there he is.
MR. CROWLEY: And there is no way of getting him out?

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GEN. HILLDRING: No, there is no way of getting him

MR. McCLOY: We have compromised on two to three mil-

lion people here. Now, I think it a good idea to have

a court, a good sensible thing to do.

MR. COE: The President's directive said, "Hold him
for trial and punishment.
GEN. HILLDRING: We haven't any war criminal decisions.
MR. CROWLEY: But Jack, just as an administrative thing
you are going to have to set up some macninery for trying
smaller people to find out what they are guilty of.
MR. McCLOY: I was in the town of Eschershausen the

other day, and it brings up this question of the rural

the up.

MR. CLAYTON: May I suggest that we insert one paragraph

here dealing with it just In broad outline and say that a
subsequent directive will be formulated and issued to deal

with it in detail. Would that be satisfactory?
MR. McCLOY: Deal with the disposition?

MR. CLAYTON: No, no, with the constitution of it,
the work and the handling of it, and so on.
H.K.JR: Sure.

were

yards, burgomaster. and they They had fighting burgonaster down the The road company . thousand con-

mander was a lieutenant who had been desi gnated for civil
affairs in this combet company, and he had the burgomaster
in before him. There were four displaced persons, three
Russians and one Dutchman, who were arguing and testifying
in behalf of the burgomaster saying he was a good fellow
and he was kindly and not a Nazi and was all right. Otherwise that burgonaster would have gone into the hoosegow with

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the rest of the prisoners. That was just a thumb court.
There was no regulation that provided for that. That is

down to the ground.

MR. McCLOY: It is contemplated that a court will be
set up to permit application to--

H.M.JR get out.
MR. FORLER: This is out of our bailiwick, since we are
interested only in economic matters, but once having been a
lawyer--don' we consider that 88 a matter of normal administration he would go ahead and constitute seal- judicial machinery
so these people could come in with petitions? Are we here
in this group at this stage of the gase going to do some-

MR. CROWLEY: Down to a certain level you have war

thing in this directive that micht tend to inhibit the
establishment of a useful judicial process over this.

MR. McCLOY: These are general arrests that bear no

Wh. McCLOY: Well, may I put it this way: "Why do we
in this group order them to arrest all these people?

criminal courts, don't you? All you need is something
in the Lower level.
relation to war criminals.

MR. CROWLEY: Justice court.

MR. McCLOY: This is a sort of--tnis is an instrument
for carrying out a general denazification policy more than
anything else. You are arresting wi th a dragnet everybody
who might be war criminals or might be antagonistic to the
occupation.
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MR. CROWLEY: On that basis, if you carried that to
the full extent you have to arrest half of Germany.

MR. FOWLER: There is a reason for certain groups
of people, and we assume that he is going to make some
mistakes in doing a mass gathering up, but he is going
to establish some kind of machinery to sift out the
mistakes that have been made and rectify that situation.
I don't see
why he has to wait on us to, in effect,
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be
quite million
a cooling
off period if you are going to have two
or three
of them.

E.N. JR: We tell him in so many words to arrest every

officer of a certain rank. If that is what we say, shouldn't
we at this time tell him that he can set up ameliorating
processes?

MR. McCLOY: This is meant to catch the big shots, not

the little fellows, but in attempting to catch the big
fellows you have roughly defined those, and it is very
rough rule. Paragraph five I have referred to. I have

MR. FOWLER: that is more important here, it seems to

me, although this is B purely political matter is that some
political policy as to the ultimate disposition and treatment of these people who aren't in the definition of war

personally experienced the injustice of peragraph seven.

It says, The leading officials of all ministries and other

category should be arrived at, and what is more important
than the setting up of machinery without policy is the establishment of some policy, and then when you have a policy
you would know better what kind of machinery you want. Maybe
you might keep them cooled off for six months, generally
keeping things pretty well under control. You might make
different types of policy here, and it seems to me you have
got # whole area--

high political officials GOWN to and including urban and
rural buergermeister and officiale of equivalent rank.
There are many rural buergermeisters in Germany today who

are not Nazia at all. they have been left there because
they were good administrators and haven't been touched.

MR. COE: Any suggestion after the first sentence of
B?

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MR. McCLOY: The policy is stated here, isn't it? We
aren't getting into the war criminal business at this time.
We say, "All persons who, if permitted to remain at large
would endanger the accomplishment of your objectives will
also be arrested and held in custody. The following is
partial list of the categories of persons to be arrested
In order to carry out this policy:
It may be that these categories we have listed may not

fit that policy.

MR. CROWLEY: Well, Jack, I think this is an excellent
document. You talk of going in and having a democratic form
of government in Germany. On the other hand, I don't think

are the ones Into

any of us feel that the very little people in Germany, with

attacks
few this exceptions, war or made brutal
that ledon
people, their and country it would

seem to me that if we are going to be consistent with those

little there should be something set up, Jack, to
give those people, people And wouldn' put them

little a trial. you

In--take them away from their families and put them in jail
and keep them there indefinitely without giving them some

right of trial. You are going to have a cooling off period

for them, as Joe says, without putting anything in the order,
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MR. McCLOY: Eight-B. We say, "All persons who, if
permitted to remain at large would endanger the accomplishment of your objectives will also be arrested and held in
custody. And f think we should add something like this,
"And tried or released through semi-judiciary machinery-through
appropriate semi-judiciary machinery which you
will
establish.
GEN. HILLDRING: That doesn't apply--war criminals
are included
in this?
A.

MR. McCLOY: No, war criminals are included in paragraph

MR. BELL: I would like to make this suggestion at the
end of eight, "If in the light of conditions which you encounter in Germany you determine through such inistrative
judiciary machinery you set up that certain persons are
within those categories --in other words, he sets up the
machinery to determine whether they have been wrongly
arrested, and makes a report to the Joint Chiefs of Staff
based on that recommendation by the judicial machinery.

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MR CHOWLEY: Isn't that right?
MR. McCLOY: It seems cumbersome. He would send the

H.K.JK: If anybody should ask me, I don't know what
they want to take the time to try them for.

individual case to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Then they
wouldn't want to review that record.

MR. BELL: For the records made in the case.

MR. BELL: They would not. He has to have something

to help him determine--

H. .Ja: You have got to satisfy the lawyers.

MR. McCLOY: Yes. I think the point is we ought to
send--I think your suggestion was a pretty good one to
set up some mi-judicial body to determine whether or not
these people that he has gotten through this dragnet do
in fact prejudice or endanger the accomplishment of his
objectives. If not, he should release them.

Kis. McCLOY: We are going to try Hitler and the Gestapo
and the SS troops and everybody who has participated in

those organizations. This as the general thing will be
sort of set aside with a prior reference for labor battalion work. That is about what it comes down to, execute
the leaders.

MR. CROWLEY: Jack, if you are going to take two or
three million people and are going to give them trials and
hold them, what are you going to do with them eventually?
Are you going to keep them forever? What you are interested

in in this thing here is at these fellows and

I

getting rid of them, and then getting going down here top to the level

that you feel stops that Nazi control. You are not interested
in some little fellow that might have belonged to the Nazi

Party because someone sold him membership or thought he

H.M.JR: well, Mr. Clayton had something there.

:

MR. CLAYTON: would this cover it, "All persons, who,
if permitted to remain at large would endanger the accomplishment of your objectives?" would they also be arrested and

"held in custody until trial by an appropriate i-judicial

body to be established by you? It 18 practically the same
thing as Frank suggested.

would get & better job. You are interested in getting the
million or million and a half leaders in the country that
you are going to treat as war criminals.

H.M.Jkz What do you say?

MR. COE: I like that.

MR. COE: Some you are going to put into labor battalions.

MR. CLAYTON: Is that all right, Jack?

MR. McCLOY: Probably what we have done is state that

all war criminals and all who had participated in the enterprise of the general Nazi domination are to be arrested. That
is the general language. Then we go on and say "Arrest
all these people, and it is a pretty good thumb rule test
of the important Nazi people, but there will be in those
categories innocent men, not just little fellows.
MR. CROWLEY: Your war criminals and even Hitler get

trials. You are going to give Hitler a trial. Aren't you

going to give the little fellow who drives a grocery wagon
& trial?
MR. McCLOY: I think so. The war criminal idea is
that B.B we have got it now.

MR. McCLOY: How does that cut across the war criminal
regulations?

Mr. CLAYTON: It doesn't do it at all, because this is

in

a category of persons who--you see, war criminals are

& different category entirely. This is only for people
that in he thinks are below the level in crime of war criminals,
but I would think that they would be dangerous to be left at
large.

MR. COE: This is release from the dragnet.
MR. CLAYTON: That is what it is.

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H.M.JR: Some of these boys may be just as bad or worse

MR. McCLOY: Would you read it again?

MR. CLAYTON: Just after "Held in custody," say,

"Until trial by an appropriate semi-judicial body to be
established by you. If that body finds dangerous fellows,
they will keep them in custody: If he finds them not
dangerous, he turns them loose.

MR. McCLOY: I think it is all right. What do you
think, General?

GEN. HILLDRING: It sounds all right, sir.
MR. McCLOY: How about the rural buergermeister?

H.M.JR: Don't worry about that buergerseister.
MR. McCLOY: he is the little fellow; he plows in the
field. Why don't you leave the urban buergermeister in?
H.M.JR: He may have a bunen of bodies he burned right

around the corner.

MR. McCLOY: That means you are going to arrest every

little leader who is a farmer.

H.M.JR: I don't want the farmers exempt from that.
(Laughter)

MR. McCLOY: If you arrest that little fellow, it just
doesn't make any sense.

H.M. I want to talk for myself.
MR. McCLOY: Say urban buergerweister; that takes in
provincial towns and places like Nordhausen and and--

H.M.JR: If you don't want to distinguish, say buergermeister and let it go at that.
MR. CLAYTON: The last paragraph gives discretion on
that.

MR. McCLOY: Yes, but be has to report back to the

Joint Chiefs of Staff and everything else on that.

than anybody else. Living in the country doesn't purify
then.

Mr. CLAYTON: Just report the name back.

MR. McCLOY: He has an out there, but it's on the

ground that It doesn't turn out to be ridiculous.
Ma. CLAYTON: It seems to the that in this paragraph

eleven--

MR. McCLOY: You are talking about high officials in
one place, and then you get down to the lowest type of

public official.

H.M.JR: He might be the most vicious.

Mr. McCLOY: So might a citizen, but not per se, not
by reason of his job.

H.M.JK: Well, I didn't put it in, but I hate to begin

to make an exception, because you get all the lawyers out,
and all the diplomata out, and all the farmers out.
MR. McCLOY: You talk about leading officials and

rural buergermelsters.

MR. CHURLEY: Henry, I have got to leave.
MR. McCLOY: We haven't begun to fight yet.
Mil. CHOWLEY: When are you going into finance and economics?

H.M.JR: There is one thing. Mr. McCley intends to
leave to take at up eleven while tonight, be Is here, and as the I one understand thing no it, would is that like

question of inflation. Is that right?

Mr. COE: Either economic or financial.
MR. CROWLEY: The economics is pretty well agreed to,

isn't it, Frank, except the inflationary thing?

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MR. CROWLEY: I certainly agree with that, and I think
you ought to make an analysis of what this thing covers so
that he would know it.

MR. COE: Yes.

MR. CLAYTON: lie could take that up immediately, the

MR. McCLOY: Dg is very such interested in this business
and spoke to the Secretary of har about it, and he spoke

economic part.

MR. CROWLEY: I have got to meat with the Chiefs of

to the Chiefs of Staff about it, too.

H.M.JR: Well, let's see, do you want to meet again

that somehow or other when we are in agreement among ourselves

Staff at half past twelve, but Joe knows it.

H.V.JR: I mean, I think we ought to be thinking

we ought to ask for a chance to see him and give him a
review of this.

tomorrow morning?
MR.

CLAYTON: You have that food meeting tauorrow

MR. CROWLEY: I think so, too.

morning, Leo.

H.M.JR: Nine o'clock tomorrow.

MR. CROWLEY: Outside of the inflationary thing and
the economic thing, are we all right?

MR. CROWLEY: Fine. Excuse no. Good by.

MR. FORLER: There is one paragraph we want to propose.

H.M.JR: What time is your food meeting?

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MR. CLAYTON: I was just going to say that in this
paragraph eleven under eight it now reads that among the
categories and persons to be arrested, "Any other person
whose name or designation appears on lists to be submitted
to you or whose name may be notified to you separately."
That raises in my mind right away on the lists to be sub-

MR. CROWLEY: Tomorrow afternoon.

MR. CLAYTON: We could meet in the morning, then.
H.M.JR: What time?

mitted by whous and--

MR. CLAYTON: The sooner, the better.

MR. McCLOY: that we have in mind there is the Ear

H.M.JR: Nine o'clock?

Crimes Commission list.

MR. CLAYTON: That suits me all right.

MR. CLAYTON: I thought, Jack, if we just say, "Any
other person whose name or designation appears on a list
to be submitted to you by appropriate authorities or agencies,
or whose name may be so notified to you separately. Is that
all right?

MR. CROWLEY: All right.

H.M.JR: Just one split second. I don't know how much
President Truman knows about what me are doing. I think
tomorrom we ought to let him know about it. Loean't he

MR. McCLOY: Yes, that is all right. I don't know that
you want to have an agency. Really the only way he should

want to review this? I think we ought to be thinking about
it. I think he ought to see the March 23 directive.
MR. CIA YTON: I think he should, too.

get lists is through the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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MR. CLAYTON: Shall we say that?

MR. COE: With . wide loophole.

MR. McCLOY: Yes, that is what it really means. That
is the only communication he gets.

H.M.JR: Let's just see a minute. I an all right.

There WAS one objection, which is the thing which kr.
McCley raised. This is accepted now, with the rural
buergermeister in?

MR. CLAYTON: "To be submitted to you by the Joint
Chiefs of Staff.

MR. CLAYTON: Right.

H.M.JR: Yes, and the Government can give it to the

Joint Chiefs of Staff and It will go off to him.

H.K.JR: What were the things--

MR. CLAYTON: "Or whose name may be so notified to
you separately.

MR. COE: I think the economic thing-MR. McCLOY: I an at considerable disadvantage with

MR. McCLOY: Yes.

the economic situation; I only got a copy of it last night

late. I only got one; somebody in the Wer Department had

MR. GLASSER: Is the channel always through the Joint
Chiefs of Staff?

it. I only read it through half way this morning. It

flashed a number of questions in my sind that I think are

of same importance. And I would like to give it . little

GEN. HILLDRING: To Eisenhower, always, yes.

more careful study.

MR. GLASSER: How about the Reperations Commission
in Moscow? Would that be the same channel?

H.M.JR: You would like to let it go?
MR. McCLOY: I would like to read it carefully and
critically and make up my mind on it. There are 8 number

GEN. HILLDRING: Until we establish some informal

arrangement, it includes them. In other words, Eisenhower
now is the employee of the Combined Chiefs of Staff. he

of things that disturb me about it. and one of the chief
ones I would like to throw on the desk right now is where
this fits in with Reparations Commission. That is a big
subject and a very important question of policy has to be

works for them, and nobody else.

H.M.JR Except when President Boosevelt told him what

determined there.

he wanted.

MR. CIAYTON: I don't think there is such difficulty
about that fitting in with this reparations document, but
there is a very substantial difference in the working group
regarding the matter of inflation and control of inflation.

GEN. HILLDRING: He does that in the capacity of .
soldier.
MR. McCLOY: That is right.

H.M.JR: Could I have a seventh-inning stretch for
three minutes to see whether the Treasury Is still intact?
Would you just stop for three minutes? 1 have got to see if
my office Is still running.

GEN. HILLDRING: He works exclusively for JCS and gets

all of his orders from them.

MR. CLAYTON: Now shall we take up any other documents?

(Secretary leaves the conference temporarily.)

MR. McCLOY: How about ay rural buergermeister? Have

you talked him out or not?

O

MR. CLAYTON: Now, would you like to go to this inflation
question?

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