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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington
FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,

Thursday, July 22, 1943.

Press Service
No. 37-69

Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr., announced

today that the goal set for the Third War Loan Drive, starting
September 9, will be $15 billion.

Mr. Morgenthau said that the entire $15 billion will be sold
to individual investors, corporations, insurance companies and
other non-banking sources.

"This goal and the Third War Loan program," he said, "was
determined by Treasury officials after receiving recommendations
from chairmen of the State War Finance Committees, and officials
of the Federal Reserve System and the American Bankers Association

Getting this amount of money will be a huge task, and will represent the largest financing program in the history of the world.

"The job of raising this $15 billion," he said, "will be
handled by War Finance Committees of each state, and the bonds

will be bold largely by hundreds of thousands of patriotic
volunteer salesmen, who already have made plans to concentrate

on house-to-house selling, since a major consideration is increasing the number of people who are buying War Bonds."

The securities to be offered in the Third War Loan, it
was pointed out, will be essentially the same types as those
sold in the Second War Loan.

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-2The securities to be sold under the direction of the War

Finance Committees will consist of:
1,
2,
3.

4.

5.
6.

Series E Savings Bonds
Series F and G Savings Bonds
Series C Savings Notes
2-1/2% Bonds of 1964-69
2% Bonds of 1951-53

7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness

The 2-1/2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943, due
December 15, 1969, callable December 15, 1964, and will be

issued in coupon or registered form at the option of the buyers

in denominations from $500 to $1,000,000. Commercial banks,
which are defined for this purpose as banks accepting demand

deposits, will not be permitted to own those Bonds until September 15, 1953.

The 2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943, due September

15, 1953, callable September 15, 1951, and will be issued in
coupon or registered form at the option of the buyers in de-

nominations from $500 to $1,000,000.

The 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness will be dated

September 15, 1943, duo September 1, 1944, and will be issued
in denominations of $1,000 to $1,000,000, and in coupon form

only.

None of these securities will be available for subscription
by commercial banks for their own account during the period of
the Drive. However, shortly after the Drive terminates, a
2 por cont Bond and a 7/8 per cent Certificate of Indebtedness
will be offered for subscription by commercial banks for their
own account. In order to confine all sales in the Drive to
non-banking sources, the Treasury will request commercial banks

not to buy in the market, and will request the market not to

trade in, either of those securities offered in the Drive until

the books for bank subscriptions are closed.

To avoid unnecessary transfers of funds from one locality
to another, the Treasury would profer to have all subscriptions
by corporations and firms entered and paid for through the
banking institutions where the funds are located.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington

FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,

Thursday, July 22, 1943.

Press Service
No. 37-68

Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau today announced the offering,
through the Federal Reserve Banks, of 7/8 percent Treasury Certificates of
Indebtedness of Series D-1944, open on an exchange basis, par for par, to
holders of Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness of Series B-1943, maturing
August 1, 1943. An additional amount of $900,000,000, or thereabouts, of

the new certificates will be allotted to commercial banks, which are defined

for this purpose as banks accepting demand deposits, on cash subscriptions

for their own account. Cash subscriptions will not be entertained from any
other class of subscriber. Restriction of the cash offering to commercial
banks is in line with previously announced policy to exclude from Tar Loan
Drives the offerings to commercial banks.

The subscription books will be open for one day only for the receipt of
cash subscriptions, and will remain open for two days for the receipt of ex-

change subscriptions.

The certificates will be dated August 2, 1943, will be \payable on
August 1, 1944, and will bear interest at the rate of seven-eighths of one

percent per annum, payable on a semiannual basis on February 1 and August 1,

1944. They will be issued in bearer form only, with two interest coupons at-

tached, in denominations of $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, $100,000 and $1,000,000.

Pursuant to the provisions of the Public Debt Act of 1941, interest upon
the certificates now offered shall not have any exemption, as such, under
Federal tax Acts now or hereafter enacted. The full provisions relating to

taxability are set forth in the official circular released today.

Subscriptions will be received at the Federal Reserve Banks and Branches
and at the Treasury Department, Washington. Banking institutions generally
may submit exchange subscriptions for account of customers, but only the Federal Reserve Banks and the Treasury Department are authorized to act as official agencies. Cash subscriptions from commercial banks for their own account
will be received without deposit but will be restricted in each case to an
amount not exceeding the combined capital, surplus and undivided profits, or
5 percent of the total deposits, whichever is greater, of the subscribing bank.

Subject to the usual reservations, subscriptions in payment of which
Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness of Series B-1943 are tendered will be

allotted in full. All cash subscriptions will be allotted on an ecual per-

centage basis, to be publicly announced. Payment for any certificates allotted must be made or completed on or before August 2, 1943, or on later allot-

ment.

The text of the official circular follows:

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

7/8 PERCENT TREASURY CERTIFICATES OF INDEBTEDNESS OF SERIES D-1944

Due August 1, 1944

Dated and bearing interest from August 2, 1943

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT,

1943

Office of the Secretary,

Department Circular No. 717

Washington, July 22,1943.

Fiscal Service
Bureau of the Public Debt
I. OFFERING OF CERTIFICATES

1. The Secretary of the Treasury, pursuant to the authority of the Second
Liberty Bond Act, as amended, invites subscriptions, at par and accrued interest,
from the people of the United States for certificates of indebtedness of the
United States, designated 7/8 percent Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness of
Series D-1944, in exchange for Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness of Series
B-1943, maturing August 1, 1943. In addition, $900,000,000, or thereabouts, of

the new certificates are offered for subscription for their own account by

commercial banks, which are defined for this purpose as banks accepting demand
deposits.

II. DESCRIPTION OF CERTIFICATES

1. The certificates will be dated August 2, 1943, and will bear interest from

that date at the rate of 7/8 percent per annum, payable on a semiannual basis on
February 1 and August 1, 1944. They will mature August 1, 1944, and will not be
subject to call for redemption prior to maturity.

2. The income derived from the certificates shall be subject to all Federal
taxes, now or hereafter imposed. The certificates shall be subject to estate,
inheritance, gift or other excise taxes, whether Federal or State, but shall be
exempt from all taxation now or hereafter imposed on the principal or interest
thereof by any State, or any of the possessions of the United States, or by any
local taxing authority.

3. The certificates will be acceptable to secure deposits of public moneys.

They will not be acceptable in payment of taxes.

4. Bearer certificates with interest coupons attached will be issued in
denominations of $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, $100,000 and $1,000,000. The cer-

tificates will not be issued in registered form.

5. The certificates will be subject to the general regulations of the Treasury

Department, now or hereafter prescribed, governing United States certificates.

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III. SUBSCRIPTION AND ALLOTMENT

1. Subscriptions will be received at the Federal Reserve Banks and Branches
at the Treasury Department, Washington. Subscribers must agree not to sell or
otherwise dispose of their subscriptions, or of the securities which may be
and

allotted thereon, prior to the closing of the subscription books. Banking in-

stitutions generally may submit exchange subscriptions for account of customers,
but only the Federal Reserve Banks and the Treasury Department are authorized to

act as official agencies. Others than banking institutions will not be permitted

to enter subscriptions except for their own account. Cash subscriptions from
commercial banks for their own account will be received without deposit but will
be restricted in each case to an amount not exceeding the combined capital,
surplus and undivided profits, or 5 percent of the total deposits, whichever is
greater, of the subscribing bank.

2. The Secretary of the Treasury reserves the right to reject any subscription, in whole or in part, to allot less than the amount of certificates applied
for, and to close the books as to any or all subscriptions at any time without
notice; and any action he may take in these respects shall be final. Subject to
these reservations, subscriptions in payment of which Treasury Certificates of
Indebtedness of Series B-1943 are tendered will be allotted in full. All cash
subscriptions will be allotted on an equal percentage basis, to be publicly
announced. Allotment notices will be sent out promptly upon allotment.
IV. PAYMENT

1. Payment at par and accrued interest, if any, for certificates allotted

on cash subscriptions hereunder must be made or completed on or before

August 2, 1943, or on later allotment. Any qualified depositary vd 11 be permitted to make payment by credit for certificates allotted to it up to any amount

for which it shall be qualified in excess of existing deposits, when so notified
by the Federal Reserve Bank of its District. Treasury Certificates of Indebted-

ness of Series B-1943, maturing August 1, 1943, will be accepted at par in payment
for any certificates subscribed for and allotted, and should accompany the

subscription.

V. GENERAL PROVISIONS

1. As fiscal agents of the United States, Federal Reserve Banks are
authorized and requested to receive subscriptions, to make allotments on the
basis and up to the amounts indicated by the Secretary of the Treasury to the
Federal Reserve Banks of the respective districts, to issue allotment notices,
to receive payment for certificates allotted, to make delivery of certificates
on full-paid subscriptions allotted, and they may issue interim receipts pend-

ing delivery of the definitive certificates.

2. The Secretary of the Treasury may at any time, or from time to time,

prescribe supplemental or amendatory rules and regulations governing the offering, which will be communicated promptly to the Federal Reserve Banks.

HENRY MORGENTHAU, JR.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

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7/2-173

The securities to be sold under the direction of

the War Finance Committees will consist of:
1. Series E Savings Bonds
2. Series F and G Savings Bonds
3. Series C Savings Notes
4. 2-1/2% Bonds of 1964-69
5. 2% Bonds of 1951-53

6. 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness

The 2-1/2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943,
due December 15, 1969, callable December 15, 1964, and

will be issued in coupon or registered form at the option
of the buyers in denominations from $500 to $1,000,000.
Commercial banks, which are defined for this purpose as
banks accepting demand deposits, will not be permitted
to own these Bonds until September 15, 1953.

The 2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943, due

September 15, 1953, callable September 15, 1951, and will

be issued in coupon or registered form at the option of
the buyers in denominations from $500 to $1,000,000.

The 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness will be dated
September 15, 1943, due September 1, 1944, and will be
issued in denominations of $1,000 to $1,000,000, and in
coupon form only.

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Total estimated expenditures,
July - December, 1943

Total estimated receipts, for
the same period

Borrowings necessary to meet

the deficit in receipts

$52,000,000,000
19,000,000,000
33,000,000,000

The borrowing figure includes continuous
sale of Savings Bonds and Savings Notes and

the present Treasury Bill program. This
figure does not necessarily represent the

total borrowing for the period, as it may be
determined that we should increase our general

fund balance in the latter part of the year
to meet expenditures after December 31.

JULY 22, 1943

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The securities to be sold under the direction of the War

Finance Committees will consist of:

1. Series E Savings Bonds
2. Series F and G Savings Bonds
.3. Series C Savings Notes
4. 2-1/2% Bonds of 1964-69
5. 2% Bonds of 1951-53

6. 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness

The 2-1/2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943, due
December 15, 1969, callable December 15, 1964, and will be issued

in coupon or registered form at the option of the buyers in denominations from $500 to $1,000,000. Commercial banks, which are
defined for this purpose as banks accepting demand deposits, will

not be permitted to own these Bonds until September 15, 1953.

The 2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943, due September

15, 1953, callable September 15, 1951, and will be issued in
coupon or registered form at the option of the buyers in denom-

inations from $500 to $1,000,000.

The 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness will be dated September

of 15, 1943, due September 1, 1944, and will be issued in denominations

$1,000 to $1,000,000, and in coupon form only.

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Total estimated expenditures,
July - December, 1943

Total estimated receipts, for
the same period

Borrowings necessary to meet

the deficit in receipts

$52,000,000,000
19,000,000,000
33,000,000,000

The borrowing figure includes continuous
sale of Savings Bonds and Savings Notes and

the present Treasury Bill program. This
figure does not necessarily represent the

total borrowing for the period, as it may be
determined that we should increase our general

fund balance in the latter part of the year
to meet expenditures after December 31.

JULY 22, 1943

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The securities to be sold under the direction of

the War Finance Committees will consist of:
1. Series E Savings Bonds
2. Series F and G Savings Bonds
3. Series C Savings Notes
4. 2-1/2% Bonds of 1964-69
5. 2% Bonds of 1951-53

6. 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness

The 2-1/2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943,
due December 15, 1969, callable December 15, 1964, and

will be issued in coupon or registered form at the
option of the buyers in denominations from $500 to

$1,000,000. Commercial banks, which are defined for
this purpose as banks accepting demand deposits, will
not be permitted to own these Bonds until September 15,
1953.

The 2% Bond will be dated September 15, 1943, due
September 15, 1953, callable September 15, 1951, and

will be issued in coupon or registered form at the
option of the buyers in denominations from $500 to

$1,000,000.

The 7/8% Certificates of Indebtedness will be

dated September 15, 1943, due September 1, 1944, and

will be issued in denominations of $1,000 to
$1,000,000, and in coupon form only.

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Total estimated expenditures,
July - December, 1943

Total estimated receipts, for
the same period

Borrowings necessary to meet

the deficit in receipts

$52,000,000,000

19,000,000,000
33,000,000,000

The borrowing figure includes continuous
sale of Savings Bonds and Savings Notes and

the present Treasury Bill program. This
figure does not necessarily represent the

total borrowing for the period, as it may be
determined that we should increase our general

fund balance in the latter pert of the year
to meet expenditures after December 31.

ULY 22, 1943

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JUL 22 1943

My dear Mr. Chairman:

As I think I mentioned to you at one of our
meetings on the forthooming tax program, our next

War Loan Drive will commence on September 9, 1943.

I understand that the first meeting of the Ways

and Means Committee will be on September 8, 1943.

I an not sure whether you expect the Treasury to
appear before the Committee on September 8. It

may be that you intend simply to have a Committee
meeting at which you will decide on the date when

you will ask the Treasury to appear.

In either event, it would be helpful to the

Treasury and I would deem it a favor if you could
postpone this first meeting for a few days so that

there will be less tax publicity at the very outset

of the now War Loan Drive.

Will you write me at your early convenience
so that I might make plans accordingly.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr

Honorable Robert L. Doughton,
Chairman, Ways and Means Committee,

House of Representatives,
Washington, D. C.

Copy to Mr. Grier
REP:ka:mv

Mailed to Laurel Springs,N.
File copies to Thompson
Copy in Diary.

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REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE PAYMENT THROUGH DEPOSITARY

BANKS OF FUNDS WITHHELD AS TAXES IN ACCORDANCE WITH
THE PROVISIONS OF THE CURRENT TAX PAYMENT ACT OF 1943

1943

Department Circular No. 714
First Amendment

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,

Fiscal Service
Bureau of Accounts

Division of Deposits

OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY,

Washington, D. C.

July 22, 1943.

The first paragraph of section 5 of Treasury Department Circular No. 714,
dated June 25, 1943, is hereby amended to read as follows:

"All incorporated insured banks, within the meaning of section 10

of the Act of June 11, 1942, referred to in section 3 of this circular

and all incorporated uninsured banks and trust companies designated SE
'Special Depositaries of Public Moneys' under the Act of Congress ap-

proved September 24, 1917, as amended (Second Liberty Bond Act, as

amended)*, are hereby designated, subject to the provisions of this
circular, as depositaries and financial agents of the Government for
receiving from employers or other persons, hereinafter referred to as
employers, funds withheld as taxes pursuant to the Current Tax Payment
Act of 1943; Provided, That no such bank shall perform any of the acts

covered by this designation until it has qualified BO to act in the
manner herein prescribed."

The first sentence of section 6 of Treasury Department Circular No. 714,
asted June 25, 1943, is hereby amended to read as follows:
"Any designated bank which desires to qualify, under the terms of
this circular, for receiving from employers funds withheld as taxes
pursuant to the Current Tax Payment Act of 1943, should apply for qualification through the Federal Reserve bank of the district in which it is
located."

The fifth paragraph of section 8 of Treasury Department Circular No. 714,
dated June 25, 1943, is hereby amended to read as follows:

"In case a bank qualifies as e depositary for withheld taxes on
or before July 31, 1943, its initial 2% depositary bond allotment or
Treasury balance under the method elected by the depositary will be
calculated on the basis of the business transacted under this circular
by the depositary during the month of August 1943. The same general
rule will be applied in the case of banks qualifying during each month
after July 1943. For example, in the case of 6 bank qualifying ES a
depositary during the month of August 1943, the initial 2 depositary
bond allotment or Treasury balance will be based upon the business such
depositary transacts under this circular during the month of September 1943."

(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
See Treasury Department Circular No. 92 (Revised), dated April 14, 1943.

.

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TITLE 31 - MONEY AND FINANCE: TREASURY
CHAPTER II - FISCAL SERVICE
SUBCHAPTER A - BUREAU OF ACCOUNTS
PART 212 - PAYMENT THROUGH DEPOSITARY BANKS
OF FUNDS WITHHELD AS TAXES IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS
OF THE CURRENT TAX PAYMENT ACT
OF 1943
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,

OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY,

Washington, D. C.

July 22, 1943.

The first paragraph of 8 212.4 of Title 31 of the Code of
Federal Regulations (8 F.R. 9045), appearing also as the first
paragraph of section 5 of Treasury Department Circular No. 714,
dated June 25, 1943, is hereby amended to read as follows:

"All incorporated insured banks, within the meaning
of section 10 of the Act of June 11, 1942, referred to

in I 212.2 of this part and all incorporated uninsured

banks and trust companies designated as 'Special Depositaries of Public Moneys' under the Act of Congress approved
September 24, 1917, as amended (Second Liberty Bond Act,
as amended)*, are hereby designated, subject to the pro-

visions of this part, as depositaries and financial agents
of the Government for receiving from employers or other

persons, hereinafter referred to as employers, funds with-

held as taxes pursuant to the Current Tax Payment Act of
1943; Provided, That no such bank shall perform any of the

acts covered by this designation until it has qualified so
to act in the manner herein prescribed."

The first sentence of Il 212.5 of Title 31 of the Code of
Federal Regulations (8 F.R. 9045), appearing also as the first

sentence of section 6 of Treasury Department Circular No. 714,
dated June 25, 1943, is hereby amended to read as follows:

"Any designated bank which desires to qualify, under
the terms of this part, for receiving from employers funds

withheld as taxes pursuant to the Current Tax Payment Act

of 1943, should apply for qualification through the Federal
Reserve bank of the district in which it is located."
The fifth paragraph of B 212.7 of Title 31 of the Code of
Federal Regulations (8 F.R. 9046), appearing also as the fifth
paragraph of section 8 of Treasury Department Circular No. 714,
dated June 25, 1943, is hereby amended to read as follows:
"In case & bank qualifies as a depositary for withheld
taxes on or before July 31, 1943, its initial 2% depositary

bond allotment or Treasury balance under the method elected

* See part 203 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations

(8 F.R. 5141), appearing also as Treasury Department Circular
No. 92 (Revised), dated April 14, 1943.

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-by the depositary will be calculated on the basis of
the business transacted under this part by the depositary during the month of August 1943. The same general

rule will be applied in the case of banks qualifying
during each month after July 1943. For example, in the

case of a bank qualifying as E depositary during the
month of August 1943, the initial 2% depositary bond
allotment or Treasury balance will be based upon the
business such depositary transacts under this part during
the month of September 1943.*

(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

JUL 22 1943
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Randolph Paul

This is to advise you about the meeting which
was held in New York on July 1, concerning the census
of American-owned property abroad on Form TFR-500.

In addition to myself, the meeting was attended
for the Treasury by Pehle for Foreign Funds Control,
E. M. Bernstein for Monetary Research, and Luxford
and Arnold from my office. A list of the other persons
present is attached.
The general disposition of the business representatives present apparently was to question certain aspects
of the census, without contesting the entire project,

either legally or on grounds of policy. Although the
results of the meeting were not entirely decisive, we

were able to express fully the reasons of the Department
for taking the census, and to remove certain misapprehensions which had arisen. It was felt at the end that,
on the whole, the atmosphere had been cleared considerably.

We were unable to discuss the matter with Fred
Smith before the meeting. However, I have brought him
up to date as to the developments.

his

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Mr. Howard Acton

Mr. William Swingle, Council
Vice President of Foreign Trade
Mr. Mahana, Corn Products Company

Mr. Callender, Corn Products Company

Mr. Carroll, General Motors
Mr. Bowen, Socony Vacuum

Mr. Collings, Socony Vacuum
Mr. Max, Texas Oil Company

Mr. Linderman, Secretary of Texas Oil Company
Mr. Saunders, Treasurer of Texas Oil Company
Mr. Thayer, Secretary of Cal-Tex Oil Company
Mr. Franklin, Legal Department of Cal-Tex Oil Company

Mr. Constatter, Comptroller and Treasurer of Cal-Tex
Oil Company

Mr. Kiernan, Cal-Tex Oil Company
Mr. Degan

Mr. Ward, National City Bank
Mr. Knoke, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Mr. Loree, Guaranty Trust Company

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JUL 22 1943

My dear Mr. Speakers

In accordance with our conversation on the

extension of time for filing reports on American
emed property abroad, the Treasury has amended

the Regulation and Circular to extend the closing
date for reports from August 31, 1943 to November 1,
1943. A copy of the Amendments is enclosed.

Very truly yours,
(signed) M. Mergenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Honorable Sam Rayburn,

Speaker of the House

of Representatives,

Washington, D. C.
Enclosures.

EMB/jm

7/21/43

File copies returned to
White's office.
Copy of 1tr. and enclosures
in Diary.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Foreign Funds Control
July 14, 1943

CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS

Title 31 . Money and Finance: Treasury
Chapter I - Monetary Offices. Department of the Treasury
Part 137 . Special Regulations under Executive Order
No. 8389, as amended. and Executive Order
No. 9193
Sub-part A.
AMENDMENT OF SPECIAL REGULATION NO. 1 (*)

Section 137.4 of Special Regulation No. 1 is amended to read as
follows:

Section 137.4 Filing.

(a) Reports by persons within the United States shall be
filed on or before November 1. 1943, with the Federal Reserve

Bank of the district or with the Governor of the territory or
possession of the United States in which the person filing the
report resides or has a principal place of business or principal
office or agency or, if such person has no legal residence or

principal place of business or principal office or agency in .
Federal Reserve District or a territory or possession of the
United States, then with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York or
the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
=

(b) Reports by persons outside the United States who are

subject to the jurisdiction of the United States shall be filed

on or before November 1. 1943. with the United States Consul of
the district wherein such person is then present.
(c) A report received by the proper Federal Reserve Bank,
Governor, or Consul. in a correctly addressed and stamped en-

velope bearing a postmark of . time prior to midnight of the

date upon which the report is due. shall be deemed to have been

duly filed.

RANDOLPH PAUL

Acting Secretary of the Treasury
*Part 137: . Sec 3(a). 40 Stat. 412: Sec. 5(b). 40 Stat. 415 Sec. and 966: 3. Public Sec. 2. No. 48 831. Stat. 77th 1:

54 Stat. 179: Public No. 354. 77th Congress 55 Stat. 838: 8785 June 14. 1941. Ex.

Congress: Es Order 8389. April 10. 1940. as amended by Es. Order Order 8998. December
Order 8832. July 26. 1941. Es. Order 8963. December 9. 1941 and Es. amended June 14.
26 1941: Ex Order 9193. July 6. 1942: Regulations April 10. 1940. ..
1942 and July 26. 1941.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE,

Press Service

July 14, 1943

No. 37-54
BE

5000

SIGIT

The Treasury Department announced today that the time for

filing reports of American-owned property in foreign countries on

Form TFR-500 has been extended to November 1. 1943. Previously, re.

ports by persons in the United States were required to be submitted
by August 31, 1943.

A careful survey of the work so far accomplished and of the
reports filed since June 3. 1943. when the census was announced, and
discussions with various groups of persons required to report and
with the Federal Reserve Banks, which are distributing the forms, has
indicated that many persons will not be able to complete their reports
by August 31. 1943. without undue hardship.

While the Treasury Department is anxious to secure the vital

information which the reports will supply. it recognizes the growing
shortage of manpower in various industries and the difficulties of
obtaining proper clerical assistance at this time. It has also been
pointed out by certain companies having extensive foreign holdings
that the long period of time required for transmittal of mail to and
from foreign areas might in some instances prevent these companies

from furnishing as complete and accurate information as could be
accomplished if somewhat longer time were granted. In view of these
considerations, it seemed preferable to give a general extension of
time to all persons affected rather than to require applications for
extensions. It is believed that an announcement of the extension at
this time will enable those required to report to plan their work on
the census in such a way as to make most efficient use of their avail.
able facilities.
It will be of definite assistance to the Treasury, however,
if those persons having their data available and now in the process
of compiling their reports file them as soon as they are completed in
order that the Treasury may proceed on classification and analysis.
noqu

The final filing date of November 1. 1943, will apply to
persons abroad who are subject to the jurisdiction of the United

States as well as to persons within the United States.

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OFFICE OF LENDJEASE
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Foreign Funds Control
July 14, 1943
1943

CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS

Title 31 - Money and Finance: Treasury
Chapter I - Monetary Offices, Department of the Treasury
Appendix B*
AMENDMENT OF PUBLIC CIRCULAR NO. 22

Section II-9 of Public Circular No. 22 is amended to read as
follows:

9. Time and place of filing reports
A. Persons within the United States Reports by persons

within the United States shall be filed on or before November 1.
1943, with the Federal Reserve Bank of the district or with the

Governor of the territory or possession of the United States in
which the person filing the report resides or has a principal

place of business or principal office or agency. or if such

person has no legal residence or principal place of business or

principal office or agency in a Federal Reserve district or a
territory or possession of the United States, then with the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York or the Federal Reserve Bank of
San Francisco.

B. Persons outside the United States Reports by persons
outside the United States who are subject to the jurisdiction of
the United States shall be filed on or before November 1. 1943,
with the United States consul of the district wherein such person is then present.
Filing by mail A report received by the proper Federal
Reserve Bank, Governor, or consul, in a correctly addressed and
stamped envelope bearing a postmark of a time prior to midnight
C.

of the date upon which the report is due. shall be deemed to

have been duly filed.

RANDOLPH PAUL

Acting Secretary of the Treasury
*Sec. 3(a). 40 Stat. 412: Sec. 5(b), 40 Stat. 415 and 966: Sec. 2. 48 Stat. 1: 54 Stat.

179: Public No. 354 77th Congress. 55 Stat. 838: Sec. 3. Public No. 831. 77th Congress:

Ex. Order 8389. April 10. 1940. amanded by Ex. Order 8785. June 14. 1941. Ex. Order 8832. Ex.
July 26. 1941. Ex. Order 8963. December 9. 1941. and Ex. Order 8998. December 26. 1941:

Order 0193. July 6. 1942: Regulations. April 10. 1940. .. amended June 14. 1941 and July
26. 1941: Special Regulation No. 1. June 1. 1943.

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OFFICE OF LEND-LEASE ADMINISTRATION
FIVE-FIFTEEN 22d STREET NW.
WASHINGTON D.C.
E.R.STETTINIUS

July 22, 1943

ADMINISTRATOR

MEMORANDUM

To:

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau

From:

E. R. Stettinius, Jr.

Subject:

Executive Reports

Transmitted herewith, for your information,
are copies of the Executive Reports on lend-lease
operations, as of June 30, 1943.

Attachments

220

CONFIDENT AL
Executive Report No. I

Office of Lend-Lease Administration
ALLOCATIONS, OBLIGATIONS AND EXPENDITURES
FUNDS APPROPRIATED TO THE PRESIDENT
Monthly Report as of June 30. 1943
( Thousands of Dollars)
Appropriation Category

Adjusted

Appropriations

Cumulative to June 30, 1943
Allocations
Obligations
Expenditures

Ordnance and Ordnance Stores

1,683,306

1,678,306

1,501,455

1,179,255

Aircraft and Aero. Material

2,669,625

2,665,855

2,523,682

1,942,226

759,273

673,276

634,874

543,691

3,871,703

2,474,575

1,952,661

1,509,632

353,288

353,266

304,633

222,655

1,104,688

1,102,488

1,058,029

867,280

12,608,929

9,226,190

6,400,745

5,361,274

Servicing, Repair of Ships, etc.

790,818

569,112

423,839

406,681

Services and Expenses

800,000

480,109

269,964

224,012

28,999

23,022

20,359

20,134

24,670,629

19,246,199

15,090,241

12,276,840

Allocations

Obligations

Mar Department

5,716,121

5,323,901

4,400,526

Navy Department

3,035,667

2,376,189

1,629,521

Maritime Commission and War Shipping Admin.

2,299,857

1,725,048

1,603,370

Treasury Department

3,950,656

2,617,865

1,715,063

Department of Agriculture

4,228,211

3,033,408

2,917,500

15,687

13,830

10,860

19,246,199

15,090,241

12,276,840

Tanks and Other Vehicles

Vessels and Other Watercraft

Misc. Military Equipment

Production Facilities
Agric. and Indust. Commodities

Administrative Expenses
Total

Procuring Agency

Other

Total

Expenditures

221

CONFIDENTIAL
Executive Report No. 2

Office of Lend-Lease Administration
STATEMENT OF LEND-LEASE - AID
Monthly Report as of June 30, 1943
(Thousands of Dollars )
Cumulative to
Type of Aid
Goods Transferred

June 30, 1943

Ferrying of Aircraft, etc
Production Facilities in U. S.

Total Goods and Services

May

9,929,937

954,009

715,699

314,895

290,847

24,048

9,838

1,044,786

1,021,976

22,810

60,279

599,519

582,022

17,497

1,459

79,786

67,873

11,913

2,908

2,038,986

1,962,718

76,268

74,484

12,922,932

11,892,655

1,030,277

790,183

Miscellaneous Expenses

Total Services

June

May 31, 1943

10,883,946

Servicing, Repair of Ships, etc.
Rental of Ships,

Month of

Data on Goods Transferred include value of goods procured from lend-lease appropriations
to the President and to the Army and Navy.

2,122,670

190,816

10,883,946

228,072

1,635

51,719

33,469

314,895

765,759

12,307

167, 765

98,955

1,044,786

54,065
-

Total Goods and Services

136,369

1,149
-

Miscellaneous Expenses

8,434,091

1,629
-

Production Facilities in U. S.

Other

22,943
-

Ferrying of Aircraft, etc.

U.S.S.R.

-

Rental of Ships,

China

-

Servicing, Repair of Ships, etc.

Total

Br. Empire

-

Goods Transferred

Cumulative to June 30, 1943

-

Type of Aid

599,519
79,786

12,922,932

9-0491-92-nobu

222

CONFIDENTIAL
Executive Report No. 3

Office of Lend-Lease - Administration

DETAIL OF ARTICLES TRANSFERRED
Monthly Report as of June 30, 1943
Thousands of Dollars )
Cumulative to June 30, 1943
Br. Empire

U.S.S.R.

China

Total

Other

Ordnance (Excl. Ammunition)

412,910

15,879

55,933

47,082

531,804

Ammunition and Components

915,515

22,194

220,210

17,233

1,175,152

Aircraft

780,579

40,169

414,798

32,520

1,268,066

Aircraft Engines, Parts, etc.

478,968

4,821

16,442

3,062

503,293

Combat Vehicles

947,900

923

223,120

21,222

1,193,165

Non-Combat Vehicles

263,895

25,452

254,954

10,309

554,610

Watercraft and Parts

860,484

447

99,726

10,244

970,901

213,202

10,370

1,531,625

Agric. Products (Foodstuffs)

1,308,053

Agric. Products (Excl. Food)

331,800

41

3,804

121

335,766

Machinery

322,918

4,137

174,058

1,946

503,059

Metals

497,096

9,409

212,031

1,183

719,719

Petroleum Products

491,284

2,415

23,797

78

517,574

822,689

10,482

210,595

35,446

1,079,212

8,434,091

136,369

2,122,670

190,816

10,883,946

and Manufactures
Total

-

Miscellaneous Material

0-0491-03.mebu-final

223

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY

July 22, 1943
CONFIDENTIAL

Received this date from the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York, for the confidential informa-

tion of the Secretary of the Treasury, compila-

tion for the week ended July 14, 1943, showing
dollar disbursements out of the British Empire

and French accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York and the means by which these expenditures were financed.

Ems

224

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

July 21, 1943
CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary: Attention: Mr. H. D. White
I am enclosing our compilation for the week ended

July 14, 1943, showing dollar disbursements out of the British
Empire and French accounts at this bank and the means by which
these expenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,

/s/

L. ii. Knoke,
L. W. Knoke,

Vice President.
The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.
Enclosure

COPY

ANALYSIS OF BRITISH AND FRENCH ACCOUNTS

(In Millions of Dollars)

BANK OF FRANCE

BANK OF ENGLAND (BRITISH GOVERNMENT)

PCREDITS
of

416.2

+35.0

2,109.5
1,193.7

108.0

14.5
16.7

561.1

10.8

878.3

1,098.4

705.4

- 13.2

38.9

8.8

21,8

5.5

57.4

1,276.8

125.9

18.5

4ah

14.1

0.5

20.5

60.6

10.1

0.4

- 9.7

12.0
5.5

45.5
78.2

8.0

43.9

+25.5
+10.8
- 12,9
+21.5

8.0
15.0
5.0

50.9

-109.7

3.5

5.1

2.9

9.2

5.3

7

14

-

-

-

6.3

2.8
2.2

19.2
18.2

3.9

30.3(1)

Expenditures Since Outbreak of War

(through June 19, 1940) 19.6 million
land (through June 19, 1940) $27.6 million
land (June 20, 1940 to March 12, 1941) $54.9
million
22.0million
land (since March 12, 1941)

-

-

30

-

7.0

11.2

6.0

24.314

+ 99.1

+ 32.1

+ 12.9
+13.1
+21.1

-

-

-

-

1.9

-

-

-

-

6.2

-

-

-

-

23

38.3

-

-

1.0

38.3
18.2

-

4.3

-

-

20.0

84.4
110.7

+ 0.3
+ 0.1

-

130.2

19.0

-

-

20.0

-

15.1

+33.6
+ 29.)
+50.4
+13.0

0.3

-

103.4

-

16.1

-

-

64.4
87.4

105.8
59.4
72.3

0.2

-

22.4
20.7

-

120.8

-

OILED!

31.7

0.3

30.1

-

-

274.0

-

31.6

-

22.7

58.9

+220.1

3.9

-

30

74.3
11.6

51.9

+299.0

52.0

-

June

90.4

16.3

17.1

866.3(f)

1,095.3(f)

1,356.1

-

2

12.9

125.0
37.7

61.1

57.5
83.7

in $ Funds
(d)

(e)

(e)

-

28

87.2

35.3
37.0

19.3

Total
Credits

-

T

17.8

81.6

Debits

-

20.9

3

19.0

407.4

(d)

(c)

Total

-

168.6

30

-

30.4

35.5
13.3

-

27.4

96.6

223.1

2,793.1
2,189.8
1,361.5

1,335.8

or Decr.(-)
in $ Funds

-

46.7

Account

tralian

Other

Credits

-

28

(b)

(Official)

Gold

-

56.1

2

Mune

37.1

30

Credits
1,828.2

-

(3)

Debits
1,166.7

Total

-

904.8

Other

-

war

11,235.6

3.4
7.7

dal offe
Aus-

Net Incr. (+)
or Decr. (-)

-

2,203.0

20.9

Securities

Sales of

Net Incr

-

war th

1,425.6
1,792.2

2,782.3

1940

20.9

-

605.6

Canadian
Account

-

through

(a)

Official

-

war (

Total
Debits
L1,793.2

Transier to

-

GOV'T

Expenditures

Transic

-

DEBITS

Strictly

Confidential

Week Ended July 14, 1943

See attached sheet for footnotes.

ANALYSIS OF CANADIAN AND AUSTR TAN ACCOUNTS

CANADA (and Canadian Government)

OF

Credits
504.7

Sales
412.7

477.2

16.6

460.6

707.4
462.0
566.3

534.8
246.2
198.6

53.6

13.2

460.4
525.8
46.3

30

44.9

-

0.3

-

-

36.2
2

fina

19.9

15.2

2

68.5(b)

14

35.1

-

off war
of

war (through July 14, 1943)

38.7

110.7

123.9

-

-

-

37.7
M

22.2

10.3
16.5
18.6

-

.

-

8.9(

6.2 million.
million.

10. million.

9.2 million.

-

=

S

8

(c)

Dec.

THE

41.0

230.2

57.9

14.5

43.4

50.1

12.3

55.5

62.4
81.2

62.9

18.3

1990

112.2

17.2

95.0

CMS.O

88.5

+

1.6

72.2

16.7

40.5

107.2

57.4

49.8

7.3

28.0

20.5
12.0

7.5

18.1

2.3

14.6

5.5

4.7

9.4

B.O

6.1

11.7

8.2
0.9

17.3

2.1

6.7

1.3

19.3
20.1

-

10.38

-

20.1

27.3

-

27.3

41.0

4.3

14.3
10.2
14.1

92.1
63.5

+ 164.6

16.2

8.0

66.1

15.9
7.1

10.3
16.5
18.6

-

-

Credits
6%1

22.2

-

-

-

Other

Sales

0.0

95.8

-

Gold

Credit
6.1

39.6

-

Total

bita
VAT

51.6

-

ther

3.9

66.4

B

A/C

31.2

34.9

-

-

Total
Debits

of

181.7

40.4

-

in Funds(d)

Net Incre
(*) oz

Proceeds

to

Official
British

32.4

360.0

e

125.0

-

39.6
95.g

My Emanditures
of war

217.1
101.2

29.0

68.50

20.9
3.4
7.2

2.9

51.6

9.0
19.9
15.7

20.9

16.6
14.4

51.5
80.8
43.9

36.2

53.8

9.0

30

52.5

79.9

53.8

June 23
(nly

-

20.0
29.9

30

48.2

-

35.1
28

56.5

-

52.5

3

44.9

-

48.2

30

46.3

-

56.5

460.4
525.5

A/C

Other

Credits

8.9(f)

6.6
24,3

+

10.6

16.4

15.9

21.8

15.0
5.0
15.1
19.0

20.0

20.0

15.4
+

Debit
306.4

A/C

For French
A/G

+

23.0

16.6

Debits

Gold

-

(e)

For Own

Total

-

of mar(b)

of

Others

(+) or
Decr.(-)

+

of an
through

Official
British

Net Incr.

+

Proceeds

to

Transfers

Transfers from official
British A/C

+

Transfers
Total

DEBITS

COMMONWEALTH BANK AUSTRALTAREDUCE
(and Australian Government)

CREDIT

+

BANK

+

DEBITS

Strictly

Confidential

Week Ended July 14 1943

(In Millions of Dollars)

+

23.4

2.8

1.0

2.0
59.6

7.8

8.3

1.0

2.0
6.0

-

14.6

O.3

9rd

0.

11.7

-

-

-

-

17.3

1-1.
CEDA

6%

-

2.4

16.0

1.3

8.6
11.6

0.3
8.6
11.6

1.8

0.5

0.5

0.3

1.3

3.4

-

16.0

9.9

18.1

-

A

517

0.3
2.3

2.6
213

For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 1821.
For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 12. 1972
Reflects changes in all dollar holdings payable on demand or maturing in one year.

e Does not reflect transactions in short term U.S. securities.
(f) Includes $6.2 million deposited by War Supplies, Ltd.
(g) Includes $60.0 million paid to U. S. Treasurer apparently representing refunds

of advance payments made to War Supplies, Ltd. on contracts cancelled. Canadian
expenditures for week largest recorded for war period.

In
Cot

Est
(b)

pro
to

eat
to

of

Incl

(c)

pressure

1939

ents for account of British Ministry of Supply Mission, British Supply Board, Ministry of Supply Timber
Ministry of Shipping.
igures based on transfers from the New York Agency of the Bank of Montreal, which apparently represent the

official Britis sh sales of American securities, including those effected through direct negotiation, In addition
(al selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during the
of the war, although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be identified with any accuracy. According
lied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation
ities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million.

about

$85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorized banks with New York banks,

reflecting the requisitioning of private dollar balances. Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
ently represent current acquisitions of proceeds of exports from the sterling area and other accruing dollar

(d) Reflects-net change in all dollar holdings payable on demand or maturing in one year
(e) For breakdown by types of debits and credits see tabulations prior to March 10, 1943.

(f) Adjusted eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day.
(g) For month.ly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
(b) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
(1)

(1)

breakdown see tabulations prior to October 14, 1942.
$13.7 million apparently representing current and accumulated dollar proceeds of sterling area services and merchandise;

3.0 million ta_be held for credit of U. S. Army.

to 228
OFFICIAL COMMUNICA TO

Mrs shit

THE SECRETARY OF STATE
WASHINGTON

DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

In reply refer to

FE 893.5151/

July 22. 1943

My dear Henry:

I have received your letter of July 15, 1943, en-

closing a copy of a memorandum presented by you to the

President dealing with the Chinese request for the
purchase of gold to the amount of $200,000,000 out of
the $500,000,000 financial aid extended by this Government to China and the text of a telegraphic message
sent through this Department to the Treasury representative in China.

I wish to thank you for your courtesy in furnishing

me with these documents and in thus keeping me informed

of developments and of your views in regard to this
important subject.

Sincerely yours,

(todacA the
The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

FORDEFENSE

BUY
UNITED
STATES

MONDS
AND STAMPS

229

PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Chungking, China

DATE: July 22, 1943, 8 p.m.
NO.: 1260

The following is strictly confidential telegram

no. TF 142 for the Secretary of the Treasury only from

Adler.

1. On July 23. I transmitted to Dr. Kung your message,

telepram no. 911 of July 16; Dr. Kung indicated that he
already had sent you a formal request.
2. Reference your 882 of July 9, part two and my
TF 141 of July 17.
A. In an informal conversation with me on July 20

Dr. T. F. Telang of the Executive Yuan intimated that

while sale of gold in China WPB regarded by a few high
government officials PB a panaces, it was tentatively

estimated in better informed government circles that it
would be nossible to sell about one million ounces of

gold at about 8,000 CN dollars per ounce, which would
yield enough to cover annoximately one-fourth of the
probable 1943 deficit. It WAR his feeling that, lacking
definite knowledge PR to the scale on which gold would be
absorbed at worthwhile prices, sale should be begun experimentally and the experiment should be scrapped if it
18 unsuccessful.

B. Shanghai bullion dealers who have been coming into
Free China to set up business since the Central Government

annuled its prohibition of free treding in gold constitute
a majority of the Chungking deelers, who number 30 to 40.
3. Ag your messages take an average of not less than
4 days to reach me, it 18 suggested thet Treasury mark

messages of relative urgency "priority". Bad local transmitting conditions were the cause of delay in your receipt
of my TF 141.

ATCHESON

230
OFFICE

SECRETARY OF TREASURY

NOT TO BE RE-TRANSMITTED

943 JUL 23 PM 2 01
COPY NO. 13
BRITISH LOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

EASURY DEPARTMENT

OPTEL NO. 240.

Information received up to 7 a.m., 22nd July, 1943.
1. NAVAL

MEDITERRANTAN. 18th/19th. Our Coastal Forces damaged two

E-Boats in STRAITS OF MESSINA. One of our L.T.B.'s damaged by fire from Shore

Battery. 20th/21st. Targets in CATANIA Area bombarded from sea. 21st. Two
of H.N. Cruisers and Destroyers bombarded COTRONE (Southeast ITALY) without

meeting effective opposition. Fires started in harbour and choidcol works hit.
2. MILITARY.

SICILY. No further reports received.
RUSSIA. 21st. Russians made further progress towards OREL,

occupying localities ten miles Northeast and twelve miles East of OREL. In
BELGOROD Area and DONETS Basin, the Russians improved their positions in local
fighting.

BURLIA. On ARAKAN Front patrolli g continues. During 17th/18th,
our patrols inflicted 60 casualties on Japanese in engagements three miles East
of LAUNGDAW. Our casualties - three.
3. AIR OPERATIONS

ITALY AND SICILY. 19th/20th. Wellingtons dropped 83 tons of
bombs on AQUINO Airfield (52 miles Northeast of NAPLES) and 66 tons on NAPLES

Airfields, 23 Medium and Light Bombers attacked RANDAZZO (Central SICILY).
20th. 145 Escorted Ledium Bombers attacked Airfields at LONTECORVINO and
ROVELLA, (40 miles Southeast of NAPLES) and VIBO VALENTIA (toe of ITALY).

At former large hangar and 26 Aircraft burnt out and damage caused to Barracks
and main hangar.

MALTA. 19th/20th. About 25 enerty Bombers attacked GRAND HARBOLE

Area causing damage to Residential property.

231

July 23, 1943
9:05 a.m.

TAXES

Present: Mr. Bell

Mr. Paul
Mr. Gaston
Mr. White
Mr. Smith
Captain Kades

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR: Before we start the discussion, since
everybody has had a chance to think it over I would

just like a showing of hands of those who want me to

send the letter in the approximate form that Mr.
Gaston wrote it last night.

(Mr. Bell, Mr. Paul, Mr. Gaston, and Mr. Smith

indicated affirmatively.)

MR. PAUL: In the approximate form - I would like
to make some changes.

MR. SMITH: In the approximate form.
MRS. KLOTZ: You mean the one we heard last?

H.M.JR: Yes.
MRS. KLOTZ: Yes.

H.M.JR: Who is for it?
(Mr. Bell, Mr. Paul, Mr. Gaston, Mr. Smith, and

Mrs. Klotz indicated affirmatively.)
H.M.JR: And I am.

232

-2We will start in with White and Kades and find
out why they don't want us to send it.
MR. WHITE: I have had a chance to think it over a

little, and I am not wholly clear now, after cogitating
on the reply that you got from the President, as to the
need for that at this stage.
It seems to me the answer is very clear from the
President that you are to present the program.
The answer remains unclear with respect to the

responsibility for formulating the program. Apparently
the President meant it to be unclear. Whether the
President thought he was merely disposing of the problem

by telling you to cooperate with Byrnes, and so on, or
whether he deliberately meant to leave it unclear, I

don't know. But it is unclear, and that is the only
aspect of it that is unclear.
I think that there may be a possibility of either

clearing that up with Byrnes and Vinson or straightening
it out with them in a way that would not have some of
the disadvantages that the kind of conversation we have
been thinking about might have.

I talked just for a minute before we came in with

Chuck. He had mentioned just before we came in the room
a suggestion which appeals to me, and it seems as though

that might be the basis for the first step.

That is to prepare a memorandum, a brief memoran-

dum, which you will use as a basis for discussion with
Vinson and Byrnes, saying what is in your mind. I mean

that there has to be clear responsibility, that they

have been in Government long enough to know that any

uncertainty with respect to responsibility leads only
to unfortunate results, and that you can't work that

way; that the President told you that you were going to

present it, that that is clear, but that from remarks

which have been appearing in the press, and what not,
you are not certain that they understand along with you

who is to formulate it.

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-3Now then, it is your idea of getting the best
results, so that there is a hundred percent cooperation
and at the same time leaving no doubt as to who has to

carry the ball, and you would like to have them initial

the memorandum if they agree, in order that there shall
be no misunderstanding on anybody's part as to what the

course of procedure is to be in thi S most difficult task

of formulating a tax program.

And in order to leave no uncertain edges, you have
taken the trouble to put down on paper on one or two
pages specifically what the approach or the setup or
the responsibility shall be. And I am assuming you can
draft that to your own complete satisfaction.

Now then, if they agree and initial it, then it

seems to me you have avoided the difficulty of their
going behind and saying they can't cooperate, or this,
that, and the other thing. And you have something
definite from them.

If, on the other hand, they want to change certain
items you may be willing to change them if it doesn't

interfere. If they don't wish to accept it, then I

think is the time for you to go to the President, and

you might well have a letter already drafted which
anticipates that move of going to the President if they
don't accept that.

I rather like that, for this reason, that it may

well be that you can work out something that will
leave sufficient certainty so that you can operate for
the next tax bill since there is no question about the
presentation. All you are concerned with is the question
of the formulation, and you can also ask them at that
time to cut out the press--

H.M.JR: Harry, that thing is impossible. In the

first place, it assumes that I have to go and plead with
these fellows, you see, to be allowed to do my job. I

am not going to plead with anybody.

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-4MR. WHITE: I wouldn't regard it as pleading. I

would more regard it as telling them.

H.M.JR: I am in no position to tell them. The
thing would be an endless discussion. The whole point

is that I maintain that my authority is a straight-line

authority from the President to me.

Now, I go and plead with Byrnes and with Vinson to

let me do this job, and by the very fact that I go to
see them I recognize their authority, which I don't.

I mean, that assumes I recognize their authority.

MR. WHITE: You recognize that they have some

authority in the matter, yes.

H.M.JR: Going back to the meeting when this thing

was drawn up, at which Gaston was present, when the

President promulgated this original order, what did he
say?

MR. GASTON: He was asked by one of the people

present - I don't recall who - whether they would receive suggestions from the Director of Economic

Stabilization. He said, "No, not suggestions. You

are to receive orders."

Then he turned to me, and he said, "But that does
not apply to the Treasury Department."
MR. WHITE: What doesn't apply to the Treasury
Department?

MR. GASTON: That the Director of Economic

Stabilization should give orders in their fields that does not apply to the Treasury Department.

MR. WHITE: But the giving of the orders doesn't

apply to the Treasury, if I follow you?
MR. GASTON: That is right. The Treasury was
especially exempted from being placed under the orders

of the Economic Stabilization Director.

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-5MR. BELL: Informally exempted. The order

certainly covered it, didn't it?

MR. GASTON: I would have to get the text of the

order again.

it.

MR. BELL: I don't know as Byrnes ever recognized
MR. GASTON: Byrnes was not present at that meeting.

H.M.JR: I went over and told it to Byrnes and told
him very politely but very firmly.
Then he said to me, "Do you mean to say you are

over me?'

I said, "No, but you are not over me, either. I

recognize your position." "

MR. WHITE: That is exactly what I should assume.

H.M.JR: Harry, I am not going to do it that way.
I appreciate your suggestion. I am not going to do it.
I am not going to go and plead with these fellows. I

know them too well. They will give me the run-around
all summer long, and while I was doing it they would go

to see the President and tighten the thing up. It would

be just notice to them.

You see, with the Bureau of the Budget, the Attorney
General, and Byrnes, and Vinson - that whole group - all
lined up against us, the only chance I have got is to deal
with the President directly. And every time I have been

to him directly he has been fair with me. I won't get a

break out of any of these people.

Now, Bell made a very shrewd comment last night.
What was that that they might do that you were saying?

MR. BELL: I don't think that the President's

letter of June 12 is clear. It says that you will
present--

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-6MR. GASTON: If he decides on a program.

MR. BELL: If he approves a program.
MR. WHITE: The Secretary wouldn't present a
program that the President didn't approve of.

MR. BELL: I don't know that the President has
ever actually approved a program we have presented.
He has always stayed in the background.

But I think what will happen is Vinson and the
rest of the crowd down here will cooperate with Stam
and their program will be presented from the Hill and
won't be a Presidential program. Then he goes to the
President, and the President says, "I didn't approve
"

any program.

MR. GASTON: It looks like 8--

MR. BELL: I think it is a very cleverly written
memorandum.

MR. GASTON: After Dan pointed it out, I am inclined

to agree it is a deliberate loophole - "If I approve a
program I will present it." The play is he is not to

approve a program, but Vinson is to work out a program
with Stam and help to lobby it through.

MR. BELL: I would like to see some way to do this

without the letter, but in view of everything that has

gone on and happened in the last two months I don't see
how you can go to Vinson and sit down and talk to him

about it. I think he will do just as he usually has,

kind of evade the issue and give you a lot of talk about
wanting to cooperate and then he will turn right around
and do just as he has been doing.

H.M.JR: I have had the advantage of seeing these
so-called country lawyers operate. The man who is the

top master of all of these fellows is John E. Mack. He
is one of the best prosecuting attorneys outside of the

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City of New York, and I have seen that fellow talk
for two hours. You don't know what he is getting at,
and--

MR. PAUL: Vinson can talk for - he talked for

three hours at the last conference.
H.M.JR:

and then suddenly when you are fagged

out, bing, in goes the sword right to the heart. I

have seen John E. Mack operate.

MR. PAUL: He said he wasn't in charge of the program now. Even though he was semi-sincere about it,
by September 8 things will be fixed up on the Hill and
in the White House so that a sudden emergency would

develop, and it would be at Mr. Doughton's request or
somebody else's request that Mr. Vinson, just for the

sake of the feeling among the members of the committee,

would present the tax bill.

I think there are certain things in this letter,

on reading it over, Herb - and I worked on it again

last night, and it has been rewritten, but still there

are certain things-H.M.JR: There are certain things I want to change.
The point is this. Doughton and every other member of

the committee know that when we get a point, whether it
is tax-exempts, community property, oil well depletion,
we are right there with the pressure. They know we want

higher taxes. They are thinking of next election.

Here comes a fellow like Vinson, who is one of them.
He can deal with them. What difference does it make if

we don't get five billion increase increase in individual
income taxes? He isn't running for office. He can go.

back to the bench, and he can make any deal he wants

with them. That is their whole business, their whole
training.
Here is the Treasury with this constant pressure
all the time for more taxes, closing more loopholes.

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-8 Sure, if we can get rid of them, wonderful.
Now, if the President wants - the part that I
don't think is strong enough - I don't think we patted
the Treasury and myself on the back enough for what we
have done the last ten years.

The thing in my mind I would like to say is this,
Herbert. There are a couple of things I would like to
say. "I have, with the help of my assistants, done
everything I can to get through additional taxes. As
a matter of fact, Mr. President, we have increased
taxes from so much to so much during the last ten
years, and here are some of the importan t loopholes
which have been closed.'

Just say to him: "If you don't want us to continue this aggressive tax program to combat inflation
and to increase revenue, please say so. It will relieve

me of the most unpopular and most time-consuming, wear-

ing, and so forth and so on, job. But I want all of it
or nothing." That is the way I feel.
MR. BELL: That doesn't mean that you don't want

to cooperate with the other agencies that are interested.
H.M.JR: "And that does not mean that I am not
willing to spend morning, noon, and night sitting down
with other agencies to try to work out a program.
have been willing to be the whipping boy for the
I

Administration publicly on this reform tax program."
MR. PAUL: You mean the whipped boy.

H.M.JR: No, I would like to say this: "I have

been the whipping boy on this progressive tax reform
program which has been put through, and I have been

willing, and am still willing - I am dumb enough to

ask for it."

That is the way I feel. "I am stupid enough to
ask for it because I am so interested in winning the

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-9war and contributing to curbing inflation. But I

want all or nothing."

And the other thing that I would like to say,
Herbert - I would like to get my own personality in

this. That is the way I feel.

Do we have to refer to the June 10 correspondence
at all?
MR. GASTON: No, we don't have to at all.

H.M.JR: That would take care of one of Harry's
objections.

MR. PAUL: We have taken care of one of Harry's

partly by leaving out--

H.M.JR: But why do we have to refer to it at all?
MR. WHITE: Because it seems to me, though apparently

there are doubts in the other men's minds, that he has
definitely answered your question with respect to who

presents the bill, which is one of the things that concerned you.

H.M.JR: All I would say is this: "I did take this

matter up with you, and Mr. Byrnes, who was in charge

of the Stabilization-- "

MR. PAUL: Vinson had been in at that time.
MR. GASTON: Vinson was appointed on May 28.

H.M.JR: I don't know why we refer to it at all.
MR. WHITE: The reason for referring to it is that
you no longer raise that question because you assume that

that is so. That means the re is only one question for

him to an swer.

H.M.JR: I want to raise both.

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- 10 MR. SMITH: But look, here is the--

MR. BELL: If you raise that first one again, you

can say "which was not clearly answered."

MR. SMITH: That is right.
MR. GASTON: We could be a little vague and simply

say that there is still confusion about this whole tax

picture. Say that there are rumors going around, and
the press, and the whole thing is confusion, and it is
a serious affair, and then go ahead with this review
and not mention anything specifically - not even

Crider's article.

MR. PAUL: It doesn't matter what is in private

correspondence between you and the President. What is

needed here is something to issue to the public. That
is what is causing the confusion. If Crider had seen
that memorandum from the President to you, he probably

wouldn't have written this story.

H.M.JR: I agree with you on that. The other thing
I think you have got to drive home - I might just as
well say it - is that I want to say how the thing bothers
me. I have to take his time and my time, and this is
another family row in the brewing; and the time to kill

it is when it is in the bud.

MR. PAUL: You know that famous mixed metaphor by

Huey Long, "When I smell a rat I nip it in the bud."
(Laughter)

H.M.JR: Would it be very difficult to change it,
Herbert, along those lines?
MR. GASTON: I am not sure about leaving out the
Crider letter and these other things. You have to have

a little something to hang it on. You might refer to

what has occurred at Cabinet meetings. I don't know
whether you want to do that or not.

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- 11 MR. WHITE: Could you lump it all in one sentence
and say, "Several articles that have appeared, several

comments that have been made at Cabinet meeting,
several statements that have been repeated to me coming

from high places" - in other words, put it all in one

sentence and di spose of it in that way? Say that it
has left the matter very uncertain, and put your emphasis on the necessity for clarification.
MR. BELL: Can you put in the relations on the
Hill? Has that been changed any?

H.M.JR: I am willing to say "your comments at

Cabinet.

MR. WHITE: You might say, "Even despite your

letter of June 10 the matter remains sufficiently
uncertain to call for clarification." Then you go on
and say, "I can't work that way."
H.M.JR: I would like to say, "I may be foolish
in asking it, but my sense of duty makes me feel that
I should continue to carry this burden for you.'
MR. PAUL: You must have some sense like that or

you wouldn't want to do it.
H.M.JR: I will say, "My sense of duty" and so

forth - but it is a sense of duty.

Suppose we get the answer, "All right, the Treasury

is not going to have it. This comes under the Stabilization program." What is your own attitude?

MR. PAUL: My own attitude, then, is that one of
the principal functions of my work in the Treasury
Department, and the only one for which I have any special
qualifications based on long experi ence, is gone, and I
don't see much use in my staying. I don't see much use
in my staying as far as Customs and Narcotics. I am of
no particular value in advising on bond questions.

Foreign Funds remains.

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- 12 And of course I have a special - as to the
presentation of the program I have a special consideration. I have been identified with the presentation of two programs now.

So far as public understanding of the situation

is concerned, I am completely humiliated by being

taken out.

H.M.JR: I think if you and Gaston would go in
the room now and close the door - I would love to get

this off before I leave tonight.
I would like to say this in the letter to these

people: "It ought not, Mr. President, to be necessary
for me to review the accompli shments during the past

ten years on tax legislation. But I feel, in view of

what is happening that it is necessary."

MR. PAUL: I am against that part of the letter
except incidentally because I think it is a red herring.

H.M.JR: No. I tell you what I am trying to get

over to you gentlemen. As long as you are going to
advise me you might as well know everything that is in
my mind.

Due to this constant pressure during the last
ten years of tax reform, whi ch I have led, with the
assistance of different people here - a succession of
people - I have had a lot of my under secretaries quit,
most of them on the tax program, and I have taken the
most ungodly attacks steadily from the press. Very

rarely has the Presi dent gotten in on it. But when
he did get in on it, like exchanging letters with Pat
Harrison, it was bad judgment on his part. He did : it
in a very unfortunate way. But as a good citizen, I

am still willing to do it.
It is like this thing, the fight I made to get

the presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks to continue.

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I fought like a tiger to get them to continue. But I

said, "If they don't, it is good for me."

Now, if the President takes this away, the next

year and a half will be wonderful. It will be wonderful. The next year and a half will be swell. I can
sit back. I know enough about taxes. I can criticize
the rest of the people.

All the newspapers - I will become the white-haired
boy. They have gotten the most wonderful editorial in
today's New York Times on War Bonds. We couldn't have

written something half as good. The Times will quit
attacking me. The Scripps-Howard will quit. I can have
some fun for the next year and a half.
MR. WHITE: It will have been known on the record

in history, say if there are no more immediate factors,
that the Treasury lost one of its very important functions
under your administration.
H.M.JR: And why?

MR. WHITE: I think that taxes is a Treasury matter,
and I think that you can't put it wholly on a personal
basis. The formulation of the tax program has been and
will be and should be.
H.M.JR: And why was it taken away from me after

ten years? I will tell you why. It is just the same
down, it is just a swing to the right.
reason that he slapped Wallace down. If he slaps me

All right, I have done enough the last ten years
on taxes; I can rest on my oars. If they don't want
an aggressive tax program, if they don't want it under
my leadership, O.K. They didn't want an aggressive
foreign purchasing program, so they rubbed Wallace out.
It won't be on me. With the liberals and the people
that I care about I have made my record. The burden

of proof will be on the other fellow, Harry.

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- 14 Why did they take it away from me? Because they
don't want an aggressive tax program any more than they

wanted the aggressive stuff - if they don't want Wallace
blocking cyanamid from going down into Mexico, and all

the rest of the stuff, and so forth and so on--

MR. BELL: It would be all right if we could write

the chapter in the history book. (Laughter)

H.M.JR: The white paper on inflation will be ready

for release?

MR. SMITH: They are working just on the physical
presentation.
H.M.JR: How much longer?

MR. SMITH: We are getting a man in from the Army

to finish it. Banyas is loaded up. We had to get a
man in to do the physical work on it. It will be ready
next week, if we get the man.

That covers all the high points of what the

Treasury has done to combat inflation from way back

three or four years ago. Over on one side of the
page is the story-MR. PAUL: From Blough?

MR. SMITH: They have given me the material. I
just went through the material and took out the high

spots. First they took out what they thought were the
high spots. They got clippings to back up everything
the Treasury has said. One side - on the left-hand
side is the picture of the Treasury knocking its head
against the wall trying to do something about inflation.

On the other page we have a chart that go es from the

time we started to date, showing the cost of living

going up, and here on a certain date the Treasury sai d

to do so and so. So it ought to be very effective.

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- 15 H.M.JR: Anyway, you people know how I feel. Would
you and Paul please lock yourselves up, and when you are
ready let me know. You ought to be able to do something
in a couple of hours.
MR. GASTON: How would it be to take this kind of

approach: "I want to talk to you very seriously about

the tax situation. It is at the present time one of
indecision and confusion. As things go on, there is

little prospect of your getting any tax bill worth while
so far as new revenue is concerned and combatting in-

flation. These are some of the items of the picture."
Make it a talk from the standpoint of our wanting

to do something aggressive, as we have done in the past,
on the subject of taxation, and the way the cards are
stacked now it looks as if we wouldn't have any chance

to do it.

H.M.JR: Would you want to make it a little bit
more personal, start off, "I want to bring this to your
attention as one who has served you loyally for ten
years and as a friend" and so forth?

MR. SMITH: I think there is a great deal of virtue
in making it a very personal letter because I think he
will be less likely to shoot it off to Ben Cohen to
answer.

You know this thing of Danny's worries me a little
bit - I mean just mechanically. After he gets the

letter then he says, "Maybe Cohen wrote that answer,
maybe Cohen put that loophole in there." So he calls
Cohen in, and he says, "I thought you were supposed to

answer it and tell Henry that he was going to do this
job.'

So Cohen says, "I did. See?" And he reads that
paragraph.

If the President is busy he thinks it says what the
words say.

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I am not sure you shouldn't clear that one up.

I took a crack this morning at starting the letter

off. I am not sure that it is the right thing to do,
and I haven't even O.K.'d it. But I just throw this in.
(Draft of letter read by Mr. Smith, copy attached.)

MR. BELL: That is to the point.
H.M.JR: It is a'damned good letter. It sounds

more like Harold Ickes, though.

MR. SMITH: On the second rewriting I could take
some of the dynamite out of it.

H.M.JR: I would love to sign it.
MR. SMITH: Then I--

MR. WHITE: I think that is the sort of letter, if
you are going to send a letter, to send, with one additional paragraph or two to bring out the point that there
is much more at stake here than a mere matter of whether
one man or another man shall be in charge.

"What is at stake here is a question of whether you
are going to have a new deal spirit in your tax laws
or whether you are going to move it away in the direction
of somebody else for apparently administrative reasons;
and whether by so doing you are at the same time giving
one of the departments which has been your staunchest
and most aggressive new deal agencies" and so on.

It is a short letter, and he has got to an swer it
one way or the other.

H.M.JR: He knows - the President knows what is
going on. He reads the papers.

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- 17 MR. WHITE: The advantage of a short letter like

that is it doesn't lend itself to an answer which goes
off on other tangents of arguing whether this bill or
another bill or whether the press is misquoting, or this,
that, and the other thing. It leaves him no room to

maneuver. He has got to meet it on the issue.

MR. SMITH: That is the way I feel. I think if you
get too wordy in this thing, it is going to leave too

many outs for the guy that answers the letter. I mean,
you can take a letter that is long and wordy and get a
Vinson-type answer from it that is a perfect answer for
anything you want it to answer. I mean he can write
the letter to you, and it means one thing; he can take
it back to the President, and it means something else.
I think that is exactly what happened on your other
letter.
H.M.JR: when did you do this?

MR. SMITH: I did it this morning between ten
minutes to nine and nine o'clock. (Laughter)

MR. WHITE: I think the other letter is better for

the record. It is a much more complete, much better
delivery device, and a much more complete and effective

letter. If one wished to have a letter in the record
or published, it makes a much better letter; but for the

purpose that you have in mind, it seems to me that something very close to that would get you what you want
most qui ckly and most clearly.

MR. BELL: Could you indicate some way that this
is a sort of personal thing between you and the President
so that he wouldn't go around some place else to have
it answered - personal or confidential doesn't mean

anything on a letter.
MR. WHITE: How could he take that letter (Smith's)
and ask somebody else to n swer it? It is not the kind
that anybody else could answer.

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- 18 MR. BELL: He could say to Byrnes or Vinson, "Here,

prepare a memorandum for me."

MR. WHITE: I think you can add that. I think you
can say, "Mr. President, I would like to ask, on the
basis of our long friendship, that I want a clear
answer from my chief, and that no answer from anybody

less can, in my opinion, remove the uncertainty which

is making it so di fficult for me to operate.

MR. BELL: "This condition exists and is becoming
worse all the time."
H.M.JR: Or you can say, "I have come down here to

serve you and no one else. That is true.

Kades, you look as though you are about to burst

forth. (Laughter)
CAPT. KADES: Well, I still like Herbert's letter.
I think that is the kind of a letter to send because I
think it is a matter of record.
Now, Mr. Secretary, if you want to do something

like this, if you want a very clear-cut expression from
the President you could send him a draft of a letter
addressed to you and to Byrnes and to Vinson which
answers this letter.
H.M.JR: You mean send a draft?
CAPT. KADES: Yes.

H.M.JR: Now you have got an idea. If you don't
mind my saying it, it is the first good idea you have
had because it is the first one I liked. (Laughter)
Now you have got an idea. That is what Hull does,
and that is why I think Hull operates.
MR. WHITE: That is their regular technique. They
write what they want for the President to initial or
sign.

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- 19 What was your suggestion?

CAPT. KADES: To make a draft of the reply, with

Herbert's letter.

MR. BELL: Then if he signs it, plant a question
in the press conference for somebody to ask like this,
"Who has charge of the tax program?"

H.M.JR: That is worthy of a spot promotion, Chuck.
(Laughter)

CAPT. KADES: Depending, Mr. Secretary, on whether

he signs it. (Laughter)
MR. WHITE: It is terrible to have 8 lot of advisors
who all disagree, but apparently Kades has come out wi th
a go od suggestion.

H.M.JR: I like that.
MR. BELL: I like it. I do think that definitely

throws it into the lap of somebody to. consider besides
the President because I don't think he would put his

signature on it - he might, but I doubt if he would put
his signature on it without first getting Byrnes' and
Vinson's advice.

H.M.JR: He signed that letter for me stopping high
test gas and scrap iron going out of the country without
showing it to anybody. He changed it afterwards, but he

did sign it in the first instance. (Laughter)
MR. GASTON: Yes, I remember it.

H.M.JR: I think that is the thing. At least that

tells him what we want. If he wants to modify it, that

is all right.

Look, gentlemen, if you don't mind, I am going to
take the leadership. I am going to ask you whe ther you

fellows can't - the four of you - (Gaston, Paul, Smith,

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the letter and draft of an answer, and then try to get
it to me before noon. That ought not to be so hard. Then
the rest of us can see it.

MR. PAUL: I think there is a good deal about this
Smith approach that I like. I am wondering if we can't

put this letter into this form.
H.M.JR: well, the four of you get together. But
I want to give it to the President, the draft of a reply
to me that Kades suggested.

The State Department has certainly been very success-

ful using that. Then if it is a good, fair answer he
doesn't have to show it to anybody.

MR. WHITE: That is the point. It can be fairly

stated. There is a difference between this and the State.
You are not reaching out to extend your powers. All you

want is a reasonable arrangement which would remove the

uncertainty about something that has existed. From that

point of view it might well be that the President in

reading the answer will say, "This seems to be a very

reasonable approach to it. If you provide for the

cooperation and "--

MR. BEL L: Put in about the cooperation.

MR. GASTON: It has this virtue, that it shows
definitely and concretely what you are asking for.

H.M.JR: I would put this in the letter. I would
like to say this: "I don't think I have to tell you I
have served you loyally for the last ten years. I have

come down here just to serve you. I want to continue to
do that, but in order to do that you have got to make it

possible. All I want is to be able to continue in the
future as I have in the past, to serve you loyally - and

my country."

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tion.

MR. BELL: That has a little suggestion of resignaMR. SMITH: I think that is a matter of wording,

though.

H.M.JR: Why don't you fellows go in there and -

has anybody any doubts that we want to draft an answer
for him?

MR. BELL: How are you going to get it public?

MR. SMITH: Let's get it private first.
MR. BELL: But that is the important thing.
MR. GASTON: Of course if you get, as Chuck sug-

gested, a letter which is addressed to all three parties,
giving them orders, they are not going to come out

publicly and contradict that. They are going to recognize it. They are going to acknowledge that that is
the setup.

H.M.JR: I think the thing is to get it first, and

then the first time one of them goes overboard after he

does the thing then it will be time to make this thing

public.

MR. PAUL: What you can do, if you want to get it
public, is be asked about it at the press conference.
MR. BELL: Let somebody ask the President.
MR. PAUL: Or the Secretary.

H.M.JR: It would come much better from him.

MR. GASTON: That is very simple. If you are put
in charge of coordinating and formulating tax policies, It
you call a meeting over here and let the boysknow.
will easily leak out that you have called a meeting.

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- 22 H.M. JR: And send a copy of it to George and
Doughton.

MR. PAUL: That would make it public. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: I would send a copy to George and Doughton,
and to Vandenberg and Knutson. There are plenty of ways

to get it published.
I feel much better now. Do you feel better?

CAPT. KADES: Yes, sir, Mr. Secretary. I think
that too many hands in the pot spoil the pie, or

whatever it is. (Laughter) I think that Herbert and

Fred Smith can do a much better job than all of us

trying to get a phrase in.

MR. GASTON: We can work that out.

H.M.JR: Don't you want to sit in on it, Paul?

It affects you so vitally.

MR. PAUL: I know the way Herb works. He likes to

get off in a huddle with himself. I talk with him
first, and then I talk with him after he has produced
it.
MR. SMITH: I think that is the way to do it.
MR. GASTON: The best thing for us to do is go in

and talk it over and find out where we are going. The

drafting of the reply is going to be the difficult
thing.

You are all for having a short, simple letter. I
think this letter of Fred's is excellent. The only
thing I fear is having the President put it down, "Well,
this is just a personal quarrel. There is nothing in
it but that - personal jealousies.

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H.M.JR: He knows better. Well, Herbert, I can
increase the pressure on him if it is necessary. I

can become more and more aggressive on the thing if

necessary.

Ickes has been fairly successful that way. He
has written ones like that, only much worse. He has
gotten his oil; he has gotten everything else. He has
written some terrific ones, but he doesn't stop - he
always ends up by offering to resign. He does resign.
I don't want to do that.
Go to it, boys, and let me know.

1st Smith drift 254
Dear Mr. President:

As a result of my letter to you on June 12, I had hoped
to clear up two vital questions which, as long as they remain
unanswered, make it unnecessarily difficult for me to proceed
as the Secretary of the Treasury.
The two questions are these:

(1) Am I, or am I not, as the chief fiscal officer of
the Government, charged with the responsibility of coordinating
the various branches of the Government in the preparation of a
tax plan?

(2) Is the Treasury to present such a tax plan, after it
is completed, to the Congress?

In your reply to my letter, you partially answered the
second of these questions. You said, "If I approve the tax

plan, you will present it." This of course raises the possibility that a tax plan might be prepared, not necessarily
at the direction of the Treasury, which you would not approve,

and therefore I would not present it. So this is not really
an answer at all.

The other question, as to whether work on the preparation

will be coordinated under my direction, or whether under
someone else's direction, was left completely unanswered.

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255

Day after day I am told, or read in the press, that the
Treasury is no longer in charge of tax matters, but that this
job has been turned over to Byrnes, to Vinson, or to someone
else. My people are asked to meet with others as though they
were being coordinated, rather than doing the coordinating.

Not knowing whether or not this is your desire, I am at a loss
to know exactly what to do. This obviously is greatly slowing
up work on the most vital tax operation in the history of our
country.

Moreover, it is impossible for me to work under these circumstances. Frankly, I work to o hard to be at sixes and sevens with

all the self-appointed coordinators. I ask you, therefore, to
clarify this by answering directly,and publicly, the two questions
which I have asked.

If it is your desire to give the chief responsibility to
someone else, please do it clearly, so there can be no misunder-

standing. If you wish me to retain it, and you wish the
Secretary of the Treasury to remain the chief fiscal officer,

please also clarify this. Otherwise we will not get the
necessary cooperation. Otherwise, also, we will be forced to
sit quietly and continue to be undermined, and continue to
read unfounded and unjustified criticisms of your Treasury and
the Administration, many of which I can assure you are planted

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-3by other members of the Administration, and by others who

would like to take over.

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257

9:54 a.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Robert

Patterson: Hello. Henry?

HMJr:

Good morning, Bob.

P:

How are you?

HMJr:

Fine.
Your
boys
kindearly,
of pushed
to sign
that
thing
but Ime
did.yesterday morning

P:

There was no - as it turned out there was no rush.

HMJr:

Oh-oh.

P:

While the meeting was held

HMJr:

Yeah.

the Boss was called away

P:

HMJr:
P:

Oh.

in the middle of it to meet somebody or other and

so we never got into that topic but I told Justice
Byrnes to put it on for the next - the agenda for

next week and he said he was going to.
HMJr:

I see.

P:

So the rush was

HMJr:

Yeah.

P:

....88 most rushes are, you know.

HMJr:

It's all right.

P:

You've got to rush to be ready but then

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:

That's right.
...... the train doesn't come in on time.

Right. Bob, I hope that what I'm doing will be not

misunderstood. You know you were kind enough to say
that on a week-to-week basis I could keep Captain

Kades
P:

That's right.

-2HMJr:

258

Well, now, he's doing so well and would you have

your military aide or whoever it is - would you look

up - it seems to me he's due for a promotion.
P:

Greenbaum is the fellow that looks those up.

HMJr:

Well, uh

P:

I'11 ask Greenbaum.

HMJr:

You don't mind my bringing

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:
P:

....it to your attention?
Oh, no. Greenbaum wanted it - Greenbaum wanted it
understood that it was from week-to-week because he
said he thought the man ought to go - he had some

other work in mind for him here, but

HMJr:

That's entirely agreeable, but
we may have to - we may have to snap him back.

P:

HMJr:

Now, now, now, now, now - I'11 snap back that
signature.

P:

HMJr:

(Laughs) Well, I'11 wait 'till I use it.
(Laughs) Well, anyway, tell somebody. I think he

must be almost due for a promotion.

P:

Kades. Yes, I will.

HMJr:

Thank you so much.

P:

Are you going to the country?

HMJr:

Am I?

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Only as far as New York. Are you going up?

P:

How is your wife?

HMJr:

Well, I - we - we're hoping to move her tomorrow.
To Fishkill?

P:

-3HMJr:

To Fishkill.

P:

Good.

HMJr:

We're hoping

P:

259

No, I've got to go to Chicago tonight. I don't

believe I'11 be up there this week-end. I was up
there to do some haying last Sunday.

HMJr:

Did you?

P:

Yeah. Got in quite a lot - best hay I've ever seen.

HMJr:

Wonderful. Did the Village ever take advantage of
your ground that you offered them?

P:

Yeah. Yeah, it's fully cultivated.

HMJr:

Wonderful.

P:

They only have to walk a mile

HMJr:

I see.

P:

.... to that place and they can - all their cultivation
they can do with hoes and rakes.

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:
P:

Good.

They've got potatoes and vegetables in for about -

oh, four acres, I think.
I see.

There are probably twenty or thirty different parcels
there. They seem to be - I noticed them Sunday -

there were half a dozen people there hoeing away.
HMJr:

Good. Well, that signature ought to be worth a
couple of Kadeses anyway.

P:

Yeah, a couple of weeks at any rate.

HMJr:

(Laughs) Okay.

P:

All right, Henry.

HMJr:

Thank you.

P:

Good bye.

HMJr:

Bye.

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July 23, 1943

1:50 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Senator

Clark:

Henry?

HMJr:

Yes.

C:

HMJr:

Say, you know you fellows are about to ruin all the good
Democrats that are left out in our part of the country by
moving that headquarters from Jefferson City to St. Louis.
Oh, really?

C:

Sure enough.

HMJr:

Is it as bad as all that?

C:

Well, it is,Henry, because it so happens that we have
never been able to secure any important munition plants

or anything of that sort for central Missouri.
HMJr:
C:

HMJr:
C:

I see.

And in spite of the fact that Truman and I didn't have a
damn thing on the face of the earth to do
Yeah.

.... with the location of them in St. Louis and Kansas
City.

HMJr:
C:

Yeah.

We hadn't ever been able to convince anybody out in

central Missouri that he didn't locate those at Kansas
City and I didn't locate those at St. Louis.
HMJr:

I see.

C:

I mean, it's really a damn sight more serious a proposi-

HMJr:

tion than it sounds like on its face.
Yeah. I didn't - I just thought that - Truman called me
up - it was, you know, it was

C:

I knew he had called you.

HMJr:

What?

C:

I knew he had called you.

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HMJr:

C:

And I just thought that he had said, "Well, I'll call
Morgenthau
tellI him.
you fellowsand
doI'11
that.
do it,II And
too. that was that - you know
Well, I know, Henry, but I'm telling you that it's really
affects
the war effort, and certainly is going to affect
the purchase of those bonds.

a very desperate situation out there because it really
HMJr:
C:

Well, how will it affect the war effort?

Well, it affects the war effort in this way - by the

purchase of bonds.
HMJr:
C:

Oh.

Those people out in central Missouri are just as furious

as they can possibly be.
HMJr:

Well, Bennett, let me take a fresh look at it.

C:

Well, would you do that, Henry?

HMJr:

I'11 do it today.

C:

HMJr:

I mean - I - it'e not anything that I'm just calling you

about because it's really a very serious situation.
Well, I always try to be helpful.

C:

I know you do.

HMJr:

And

C:

HMJr:

I always appreciate it, too.
I went along with you fellows on your collector out
there.

C:

You certainly did and incidentally you got the best
collector in the United States, didn't you?

HMJr:

And I'm glad I did. Well, give me a look and I'11

C:

Henry.

HMJr:

Yeah.

C:

I wish you would look the thing over - not as a purely
administrative measure but as - it's really a feeling in

the central part of Missouri that they have been completely

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C:

(Cont'd)

ignored and mistreated.

HMJr:

Well, let me

C:

HMJr:

C:

HMJr:

You re not responsible

if we
that be?

left part of the office there - how would

All right. Do the best you can.
I'11 do that.

C:

Thank you very much, Henry.

HMJr:

I'll let you know.

C:

Thank you.

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July 23, 1943
Ted Gamble

Secretary Morgenthau

Sen. Clark just called me about keeping an office
of the War Finance Organization at Jefferson City.
Since both Sen. Clark and Sen. Truman are interested

in this matter, I believe that we should at least

maintain a branch office at Jefferson City, and I
think we ought to get out some telegrams to that

effect. I would like to talk to you about it as soon

as I return this afternoon. Frinchel-

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July 23, 1943
3:25 p.m.

TAXES

Present: Mr. Bell

Mr. Gaston
Mr. Paul
Mr. White
Mr. Smith

Mrs. Klotz

(Draft of letter to the President handed to the

Secretary by Mr. Gaston, copy attached.)

H.M.JR: I will read it.
"My dear Mr. President: I am badly in need of
your help and guidance in the matter of tax policy
and Treasury relations with others in the Administration and with Congress. The situation now seems to
be one of muddle and confusion which I think only you

can clear up. This state of affairs is interfering
the Treasury. It is making it extremely difficult for

seriously with my effectiveness as your Secretary of

me to discharge one of the most important and harassing duties you have committed to me as I have been

doing over the last ten years.

That sentence is bad - "committed to me as I have
been doing."

MR. PAUL: That is right, discharging duties as
you have been.

H.M.JR: Would you say, "committed to me" comma?
MR.

PAUL: I think it would be better to leave it

out.

H.M.JR: What, that whole sentence?

265

-2MR. PAUL: No, just "as I have been doing." We
put that in in deference to your thought.
MR. GASTON: The sentence is technically all right.
You could have a comma in. The other is better.
H.M.JR: I would say, "which I have been doing."

I will see if there is anything else.
"It is doing most" - what is "it"?
MR. GASTON: The same thing.

H.M.JR: "It is doing most serious harm to your
whole program, particularly on the fiscal and counter-

inflationary front."

What does "your whole program" refer to, what whole
program?

MR. GASTON: The whole program of the Administra-

tion. We get into particulars on it later.
H.M.JR: I don't think that is clear.

MR. GASTON: I think it is a pretty definite state-

ment when you say that it is doing most serious harm to
the President's whole program. It is the whole program

of the action of the Administration.
MR. PAUL: Even the military.

MR. SMITH: Say "It is doing most serious harm"
period.

MR. PAUL: We say that later. The sentence could

be omitted. We say later that it is doing serious harm
and in what particulars.
that.

H.M.JR: "You have committed to me" - I don't like

266

-3 MR. WHITE: Say "It makes it very difficult for me
to continue as I have in the past to discharge
H.M.JR: I think that whole sentence can be left
out, that it is doing harm.
"

MR. PAUL: Where do you want to stop, after

"committed to me"?

H.M.JR: I am cutting out "as I have been doing
over the last ten years."
MR. WHITE: I should like to see it cut out.
H.M.JR: That sentence?

MR. WHITE: I think it would be better.
MR. GASTON: The difficulty is you get it down to
merely a personal grievance then.

How would it be if you say, "It is doing most

serious harm to your whole fiscal program"?

H.M.JR: That is all right.
Harry, you go along with that?
MR. WHITE: Yes.

H.M.JR: "What I need most urgently is a clear
answer to the question whether you look to me, as you
have in the past" - seeing I have cut out "as I have
been doing over the last ten years" I can say-MR. GASTON: Say, "as you have during all of the

last ten years.

H.M.JR: Just say, " during the last ten years,

to take cha rge of coordinating opinion" - what opinion?
MR. GASTON: Opinion and advice wi thin the Ad-

ministration on a tax program.

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4

H.M.JR: It doesn't say that.
MR. GASTON: Yes, it does.
H.M.JR:

"

to take charge of coordinating
opinion and advice"within the Administration and
MR. GASTON:
of formulating a tax program" - opinion and advice COordinated for the purpose of formulating a tax program
could only be opinion and advice on the tax program.
H.M.JR: Do you mind bringing that up there take charge of coordinating opinion and advice

"

on a tax program"?

MR. PAUL: Then it ought to be "... within the
Administration on a tax program in formulating such
a program. "

H.M.JR:

take charge of formulating"--

take charge of coordinating opinion
and advice within the Administration on a tax program
and of formulating such a program for presentation to
MR. PAUL:

you. "

H.M.JR: That is all right.
"Doubt and confusion were created some time ago

by newspaper stories saying that Mr. Byrnes as Director

of War Mobilization was to be the Administration's 'tax
policy maker. The stories were said to have been based
on statements made by Mr. Byrnes. Inspiration is now
being given to a new crop of stories. One by John
Crider in last Wednesday's New York Times is typical.

I am enclosing a copy of it. It represents Mr. Vinson,

the Economic Stabilization Director, as having assumed
charge of formulating an Administration tax program and
suggests also that Mr. Vinson, and not the Treasury,

may present the program to Congress.

268

5"Such stories, and the rumors which are being

circulated about the country, do a great deal of
harm. They make it practically impossible for us
to continue to seek the advice of other agencies of
the Government on tax matters as we have been con-

scientiously attempting to do. They hamper most
seriously our dealings with members of the committees
of Congress and the staff of the Joint Committee.

They exercise a blighting effect on the work of the
Treasury staff. Most important, they put you and
your entire Administration into a weak position on
the tax front.

"The picture being presented is one of indecision and controversy within the Administration. In
such an atmosphere it seems plain to me that it will
be very difficult for you to impress Congress and the
country with the importance of the tax proposals I
feel sure you will want to make." "
There are 80 many sentences which aren't the way
I would say them.

MR. WHITE: Could I ask you to read aloud those
two sentences again?

H.M.JR: Harry, I am not going to be able to send

it out, anyway. I have a plane waiting. I can't do
this thing. It is no good, anyway.
Haven't you seen it before?

MR. WHITE: Yes, I read it.

H.M.JR: Do you mind? It isn't the way I want

it, anyway.

"I know that I am in entire agreement with you
in believing that we need much heavier taxes both for
revenue and to combat inflation. A di ifferent view
seems to prevail on the Hill.

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-6"To meet this situation the Administration needs
to speak with a clear voice. A chorus of voices, each
seeming to represent the Administration, can't be a
clear voice. What is being whittled away by rumor, by
undermining, and by infiltration in the corridors and
the press is not merely the prestige and authority of
the Treasury, but also the prestige and authority of
your Administration and its ability to discharge ade-

quately its duty and responsibility to the Nation.

"Whether Justice Byrnes, Judge Vinson or I as

Secretary" - no, I can't--

MR. GASTON: It should be "... I as Secretary of
the Treasury

H.M.JR: There is so much here that I can't - it

is

so confused. I can't accept this, I am sorry. I

don't know whether there were too many cooks or what,

but - who is going to be here tomorrow? Herbert, are
you on tomorrow?

MR. GASTON: I think I will be here tomorrow. I
am always here.

MR. PAUL: I will probably be here.
MR. SMITH: It seems to me that is exactly what
you want to say only "ain't" the way you want to say it.

Isn't it a matter of colloquializing?

H.M.JR: No, the sentences aren't clear to me.

MR. SMITH: That is the point. You don't talk in

involved sentences, and you take one thing at a time.

MR. BELL: It is about the thing you want to say,
but you want to say it in your language rather than in
involved sentences.

a

MR. WHITE: I think they could work over that with
little more time and get what you want. You might go

270
-7--

through it again and indicate certain ideas which
aren't suitable.
H.M.JR: I have done it 80 much, Harry, and I am

fighting time. I have done it so often.

MR. WHITE: Let them work some more over it.

MR. GASTON: Is there anything not in here that

you particularly want to have in?

H.M.JR: Yes, there are those two sentences, that
one and two I definitely want in - or do you think you
will leave that out now that you have the order?
MR. BELL: Yes. You see, one of them raised some

doubt.

MR. GASTON: The two are in one sentence here.
They are not separated.

(Order addressed to the Secretary of the Treasury,

the Director of War Mobilization, and the Director of

Economic Stabilisation handed to the Secretary by Mr.
Gaston, copy attached.)
H.M.JR: The order is good.
MR. SMITH: Does that have the changes on that
Messrs. Kades and White want?
MR. GASTON : No.

MR. SMITH: They suggest - and Dan, too - that

first of all there ought to be a reason on this thing,
that you shouldn't just start out like this.
They would like to say, "In order to allay the

uncertainties being created by newspaper articles and

discussions, I want to make it clear that the Secretary

of the Treasury as the chief fiscal officer"--

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H.M.JR: No, definitely not. That is out. This is

a perfectly dignified statement.
MR. BELL: It seems to me it comes out of a clear
sky.

MR. PAUL: I would like to take this - I think
part of the difficulty you have with this is because
you feel such a pressure to get that plane. A few

minor changes, and I think this other statement is very
good.

H.M.JR: I don't want to be critical, but some of

the sentences, at least in my poor brain, are involved.
I mean, they are not clean, they are not clear-cut.

You say you will do them - I can't, and it is
unfair to criticizeMR. PAUL: With more time it can be somewhat more

colloquialized, but that takes more time.
H.M.JR: Will you people have a chance at it?
Then I tell you what you could do. Take another chance

at it, and then the thing could be read over the tele-

phone to me some time tomorrow. It could be given to a
Secret Service man, and he could come up there Sunday.

I could sign it Sunday, and he could bring it back, and
you could give it to the President Monday.

MR. PAUL: I think that given a little time-H.M.JR: There is enough talent here. Each one of
you individually can write clean, clear-cut sentences.
MR. PAUL: That is part of the trouble, too many
people in too much of a rush on it.
MR. WHITE: I think they are close to the end on
this.

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more?

H.M.JR: Would you mind, Herbert, doing it once
MR. GASTON: Not a bit, no.
H.M.JR: And Fred?
MR. SMITH: Yes.

H.M.JR: The trouble is we have tried to take two
different approaches and meld them, with the result
that there are really too many ideas there.
MR. GASTON: I think the trouble is that we have
looked 80 long at the thing.
MR. PAUL: We need a day off from it.
H.M.JR: Why not tackle it tomorrow morning?

MR. PAUL: Half a day off? Better than nothing.

(Laught er)

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July 23, 1943.
My dear Mr. President:

I am badly in need of your help and guidance in

the matter of tax policy and Treasury relations with
others in the Administration and with Congress. The

situation now seems to be one of muddle and confusion

which I think only you can clear up. This state of
affairs is interfering seriously with my effectiveness
as your Secretary of the Treasury. It is making it

extremely difficult for me to discharge one of the most
important and harassing duties you have committed to me

as I have been doing over the last ten years. It is

doing most serious harm to your whole program, particu-

larly on the fiscal and counter-inflationary front.

What I need most urgently is a clear answer to the
question whether you look to me, as you have in the past,
to take charge of coordinating opinion and advice within
the Administration and of formulating a tax program for
presentation to you.
Doubt and confusion were created some time ago by

newspaper stories saying that Mr. Byrnes as Director of
War Mobilization was to be the Administration's "tax

policy maker.' The stories were said to have been

based on statements made by Mr. Byrnes. Inspiration is
now being given to a new crop of stories. One by John
Crider in last Wednesday's New York Times is typical.

I am enclosing a copy of it. It represents Mr. Vinson,

the Economic Stabilization Director, as having assumed
charge of formulating an Administration tax program and
suggests also that Mr. Vinson, and not the Treasury,
may present the program to Congress.

Such stories, and the rumors which are being circu-

lated about the country, do a great deal of harm. They
make it practically impossible for us to continue to
seek the advice of other agencies of the Government on

274

-2tax matters as we have been conscientiously attempting

to do. They hamper most seriously our dealings with

members of the committees of Congress and the staff of

the Joint Committee. They exercise a blighting effect
on the work of the Treasury staff. Most important,
they put you and your entire Administration into a weak

position on the tax front.

The picture being presented is one of indecision
and controversy within the Administration. In such an
atmosphere it seems plain to me that it will be very
difficult for you to impress Congress and the country
with the importance of the tax proposals I feel sure

you will want to make. I know that I am in entire
agreement with you in believing that we need much heavier
taxes both for revenue and to combat inflation. A different view seems to prevail on the Hill.

To meet this situation the Administration needs to

speak with a clear voice. A chorus of voices, each

seeming to represent the Administration, can't be a clear
voice. What is being whittled away by rumor, by under-

mining, and by infiltration in the corridors and the

press is not merely the prestige and authority of the
Treasury, but also the prestige and authority of your
Administration and its ability to discharge adequately
its duty and responsibility to the Nation.
Whether Justice Byrnes, Judge Vinson or I as Secre-

tary continue to carry forward a traditional Treasury
responsibility is not nearly so important as having the
matter settled now and settled in such a way that all of
the agencies concerned as well as the public will understand it.
The matter would be cleared up quickly and finally
if you were to approve such a directive as that which I

enclose. In any event, I earnestly urge that you advise

me promptly whether you wish me to continue to be in

275

-3charge of coordinating opinion within the Administration
on tax policies, and of presenting your tax program to
Congress.

Faithfully,
Secretary of the Treasury.

The President
The White House

Secretary took up at Cabinet on
July 23, 1943.

276

Comparison of 1st Nor Loan, 2nd the form and 277

the Contrinplated form.

(In millions of dollars)

1st nas

foom

2nd Has

3rd Nar

soon

from

Dec 1942 apr. 1943
Goal

9.000

Sept.1943

15,000

13.000

Non - booking sources:
Individual, fastnesships and

personal trust accounts
Insurance Companies

Mutual savings banks

1.589

3.290

1.677

2.408

609

1.195

53

117

194

503

Elemmarynory institutions
State and local governments

Other Corporation them

T otal

2,599
6,721

Commenial banks
Dealers Y brokers
u. S. Government trust accounts

Total

Total all sources.

5,072

5,000
3,000
}

6.400

5.038

12,550
5.058

881

544

263

391

14.400

-

600

-

6.216

5.993

600

12,937

18,543

15,000.

drook the upat Catnut

278

DRAFT
July 23, 1943
MEMORANDUM ON THE FIRST, SECOND, AND
CONTEMPLATED THIRD WAR LOANS

First War Loan: The goal of the first war loan -December 19, 1942 -- was to raise $9 billion, of which
about $5 billion was to come from the banks and $4 billion
from non-banking sources. In that drive we raised a total
of $12,937,000,000, of which approximately $7 billion
came from non-banking sources and just under $6 billion
came from commercial banks and dealers.

Second War Loan: The Second War Loan -- April, 1943

was to raise $13 billion, of which $5 billion was to come
from banks and $8 billion from non-banking sources. We

raised a total of $18,543,000,000, of which over $13 billion
came from non-banking sources and just over $5 billion
came from commercial banks and dealers.

Third War Loan: We contemplate starting the Third
War Loan September 9, 1943, and we have set as a goal

$15 billion, all to come from non-banking sources with
the exception of possibly $600 million which will come

from dealers and brokers. It is significant to point

279

-2out that we contemplate selling $5 billion to individuals,
partnerships and personal trust accounts in this drive
as compared with actual sales of $3,290,000,000 in the
Second War Loane and $1,589,000,000 in the First War Loan

of securities

Drive. We contemplate selling a total of $3 billion/to

insurance companies and mutual savings banks in the Third
War Loan as compared with $3,600,000,000 in the Second

and $2,300,000,000 in the First War Loan Drive. In the
Second War Loan Drive there was a substantial shift by
these institutions from short-term securities into the
longer and higher coupon securities in the Drive. We do
not believe that there will be as much of a shift in the
Third War Loan Drive, which is the reason for the lesser
figure in the next drive. From all other non-banking
sources we expect to raise $6,400,000,000 as compared with
$5,600,000,000 in the Second War Loan and $2,800,000,000

in the First. We are getting practically all of the current
accumulations from these investors, which is the reason for
the small increase in the Third War Loan over the Second
War Loan.

280

July 23, 1943

My dear Mr. President:
I am sending you enclosed herewith two proclamations by Woodrow Wilson in connection with the

Liberty Loan Drives of World War I.

In view of what Woodrow Wilson did during World

War I, I hope you will reconsider and give me a
proclamation in connection with our Third War

Loan Drive. It would be most helpful. I do not
see why you would have to give anybody else a
proclamation as no other money-raising drive
can compare in size or importance with our
Third War Loan.

Sincerely yours,

The President,
The White House.

281

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE July 23, 1943
THE SECRETARY

FROM

TED R. GAMBLE J.R.S.

For your information, President Wilson issued the enclosed two
Proclamations in connection with the Liberty Loan Drives.

I know of no such single device that would be more helpful to us
than to have the Proclamation for the Third War Loan.

We have taken for ourselves a responsibility which, if successfully
carried out, means that we must bring the great masses of our country

face to face with the two-fold purpose of paying for the war and combating
inflation.

It is not a job that can be done by words, but if we can clear the
path for the hundreds of thousands of volunteer workers who are now being

trained to do this job then we have made an important contribution to our
Field Organizations.

The value of space and time already arranged for the Third War Loan

runs well over ten million dollars. It will, by all odds, be the greatest
advertising promotional effort ever made in this country which is an
additional reason for wanting to have an important message from our
Commander-in-Chief to spear-head various and appropriate phases of our
campaign.

282
PROCLAMATION ON THE SECOND LIBERTY LOAN

The Second Liberty Loan gives the people of the United States another

opportunity to lend their funds to their Government to sustain their
country at War. The might of the United States is being mobilized and
organized to strike a mortal blow at autocracy in defense of outraged

American rights and of the Cause of liberty. Billions of dollars are
required to arm, feed, and clothe the brave men who are going forth to
fight our country's battles and to assist the nations with whom we are
making common cause against a common foe. To subscribe to the Liberty

Loan is to perform a service of patriotism.
Now, therefore, I, Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States of
America, do appoint Wednesday, the 24th of October, as Liberty Day, and
urge and advise the people to assemble in their respective communities
and pledge to one another and to the Government that represents them

the fullest measure of financial support. On the afternoon of that
day I request that patriotic madings be held in every city, town and
hamlet throughout the land under the general direction of the Secretary
of the Treasury and the immediate direction of the Liberty Loan Committees
which have been organized by the Federal Reserve Banks. The people responded

nobly to the call of the first Liberty Loan with an over subscription of
more than 50 percent. Let the response to the Second Loan be even greater

and let the amount be so large that it will serve as an assurance of
unequalled support to hearten the men who are to face the fire of battle

for us. Let the result be so impressive and emphatic that it will echo
throughout the empire of our enemy as an index of what America intends to

do to bring this war to a victorious conclusion.

283
Proclamation - Page 2

For the purpose of participating in Liberty Day celebrations all employees
of the Federal Government throughout the country whose services can be

spared, may be excused at 12 o'clock, Wednesday, the 24th of October.

WOODROW WILSON

284
PROCLAMATION ON THE THIRD LIBERTY LOAN

An enemy who has grossly abused the power of organized Government and

who seeks to dominate the world by the might of the sword, challenges

the rights of America and the liberty and life of all the free nations
of the earth. Our brave sons are facing the fire of battle in defense
of the honor and rights of America and the liberty of nations. To
sustain them and to assist our gallant associates in the war, a generous
and patriotic people have been called upon to subscribe to the 3rd
Liberty Loan.

Now, therefore, I, Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States of America,
do appoint Friday, the 26th day of April, One Thousand Nine-Hundred and

Eighteen, as Liberty Day. On the afternoon of that day I request the people
of the United States to assemble in their respective communities and

liberally pledge anew their financial support to sustain the nation's
cause. Patriotic demonstrations should be held in every city, town and
hamlet throughout the land under the general direction of the Secretary
of the Treasury and the immediate direction of the Liberty Loan Committees
organized by the Federal Reserve Banks. Let the nation's response to the
3rd Liberty Loan express in unmistakable terms the determination of America

to fight for peace, the permanent peace of justice.
For the purpose of participating in Liberty Day celebrations, all employees
of the Federal Government throughout the country whose services can be

spared, may be excused at 12 o'clock noon, Friday, the twenty-sixth of April.

285
Proclamation - Page 2

In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the

United States to the affixed.

Done in the District of Columbia, this eighteenth day of April in the
year of our Lord One Thousand Nine Hundred and Eighteen, and of
(Seal) the Independence of the United States of America the One Hundred
and Forty-Second.
WOODROW WILSON

By the President:

Robert Lansing, Secretary of State

286
THE WHITE HOUSE
D

WASHINGTON

July 21, 1943.
MEMORANDUM FOR

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

I doubt very much that I can
issue a proclamation for another

drive. I don't think it has been
done before, and if I once start it
for the Treasury, I will have to

comply with all requests of this kind.
I think a statement to the
press --- which can be carried on the

radio also -- is a better way of

handling 1t.

F.D.R.

287

TO:

Secretary Morgenthau

This goes on the cover of the
portfolio of newspaper advertisements
of the Third War Loan, and War Bonds

would like to have you sign it.

is
done.

.

Fred Smith

sing eth rethRoom
to 290
M Smith 7/53/43

288

TO NEWSPAPER PUBLISHERS:

On September 9th the Treasury will launch

the 3rd War Loan - the greatest drive for

dollars ever attempted anywhere at any time.

It will aim at raising the largest amount of

money from individuals that any drive has raised

in the history of the world.

It will be in the truest sense a people's
loan. This money must be raised if we are to
keep pace with our fighting mon and at the same
time keep down the cost of living.
In bringing home to the American people a
sense of the extreme urgency and importance of
reaching our 3rd War Loan goal, the newspapers

of the Nation. through their advertising columns,
provide a sure, direct avenue of approach. This
was most sagnificently demonstrated in the 2nd
War Loan when over 72,600,000 lines of War Bond

advertising appeared in newspapers. I en confident. therefore. that the Treasury can again
count upon you, and upon the many patriotically-

minded spensors of Var Bend advertising who have
contributed se much to the success of the var

financing program in the past, to back the 3rd
War Loan to the fullest extent.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Mergenthes, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Original ltr. ret. to F.Smith
Copy in Diary.

289

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE July 23, 1943

Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Fred Smith

You asked about the background of the little boy on the
new War Loan poster. Here it is:

Donald Devlin - 8 years old, in the 4th year of school.
Born in Brooklyn of Scottish parents. Mr. and Mrs. Devlin
came to this country in 1922 - both are citizens of the
United States. Mr. Devlin is employed by the Gulf Oil Company,

in charge of supplies. He served in World War I in the British
Navy, enlisting at the age of 16. The Devlins have a great
many relatives now in Scotland, many of them in the British
Army. Cousins of Mrs. Devlin in Aberdeen, have recently been
bombed. Mr. Devlin has a brother in the United States Marine
Corps. Donald has a brother 11 years old.

289

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE July 23, 1943
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Fred Smith

AM

You asked about the background of the little boy on the
new War Loan poster. Here it is:

Donald Devlin - 8 years old, in the 4th year of school.
Born in Brooklyn of Scottish parents. Mr. and Mrs. Devlin
came to this country in 1922 - both are citizens of the
United States. Mr. Devlin is employed by the Gulf Oil Company,

in charge of supplies. He served in World War I in the British
Navy, enlisting at the age of 16. The Devlins have a great
many relatives now in Scotland, many of them in the British
Army. Cousins of Mrs. Devlin in Aberdeen, have recently been
bombed. Mr. Devlin has a brother in the United States Marine
Corps. Donald has a brother 11 years old.

290
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington
FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,

Friday, July 23, 1943.

Press Service
No. 37-72

Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau announced last night that the

subscription books for the receipt of cash subscriptions to the current
offering of 7/8 percent Treasury Certificates of Indebtedness of Series
D-1944 closed at the close of business Thursday, July 22. Cash sub-

scriptions for this issue of certificates were restricted to commercial
banks for their own account.

The subscription books will close at the close of business tonight,
July 23, for the receipt of subscriptions in payment of which Treasury
Certificates of Indebtedness of Series B-1943, maturing August 1, 1943,
are tendered.

Subscriptions of either class addressed to a Federal Reserve Bank

or Branch, or to the Treasury Department, and placed in the mail before
12 o'clock midnight of the respective closing days will be considered
as having been entered before the close of the subscription books.
Announcement of the amount of cash and exchange subscriptions, and

the basis of allotment for cash subscriptions, will probably be made on
Tuesday, July 27.

291

JUL 231943
year M. Stams

in response to your request of July 14, 1943, addressed to
r. Paul, for data in connection with the individual income, corparation income, declared value excess profits, excess profits, and
capital stock taxes, distributed by income classes, showing actual
data for the calendar year 1940 and estimated data for the calendar
years 1941, 1962 and 1945, there are enclosed six tables.
Two of these tables summarize the data requested for the calendar

year 1940 as reported in Statistics of incoue. A third table, which

had already been propared, furnishes an historical comparison of the
net income, incone taxes, and dividends of corporations, 1980-1945,
and contains the only estimated data available for corporate returns
with no net income. The fourth table presents aggregate corporate
data for the calender years 1942 and 1945 to the extent they are
available. Some of the items originarily are not needed for our
purposes and so are not estimated, and in other cases detailed
estimates requiring considerable time would be involved. The fifth
table presents aggregate individual income tax data for the calendar
year 1948, and the sixth table summarizes individual income tax late
by not income classes, with respect to number of taxpayers, the
regular income tax net income, Victory tax not income. and tax

liability. instructions of the remaining individual income tax data

requested by net income classes are not available. Their preparation
would involve analysis requiring considerably more time than you have
indicated in your request.
You estinated individual income tax data for the calendar years
1941 and 1942 are not available, inscruch as past estimates are not

needed in saking current estimates of lia ility and therefore have not
been adjusted so as to be consistent with actual tax yields. For the
same reason corporate data are not available for the calendar year

1941 except for the historical material in the table which had
already been prepared.

very truly yours,
(Signed) 1:

scretary of the Treasury

Mr. Colim F. tax
Chief of Staff, Joint ammittee
on internal Revenue Texation
ashington, D. C.

nclesures
TIMMITHING 7-25-45

Handled by Paul's office.
Copy of ltr. and Photos of

tables in Diary.

292

Number of taxable individual and fiduciary income tax returns,
components determining their taxable income, and their tax

liability reported in Statistics of Income for 1940, Part

1

(Dollar amounts in millions) number of taxable
returns in thousands)
Returns with

Returns

alternative tax
normal tax returns withinsturns with: All taxable
with

:

net long- 1 net longterm capitalsters capital:

:

1

gain 2/

loss 2/

:

:
:

:
1

:

V/

:

:

surtax

:

7,479
$22,004
& 9,445

$543

$1,008

a 14

26

vidual returns)
urtax net income

$ 908

*5

vidual returns)

$ 1,876

$8

-

--

389

& 21

455

8171

arned income credit (indiinterest on partially tax-exempt

Government obligations

let income subject to normal tax
formal tax
Surtax

4

$

-

Treasury Department,

6

$

916

--

$18,154 3/

15

$ 1,899

-

65

$

redit for dependents (indi-

6

Personal exemption

7,505
$25,555
@ 9,485
4

Indinary net income

17

9

8

umber of taxable returns

returns

58

$ 514

&

and

4.

$11,191 5

$ 448
8 920

July 21, 1943.

iviai a of Research and tatistics.
Note: 1 igures including estimates described in footnotes 3/, 4/ and 5/ have been
rounded, and will not necessarily add to totals.

Statistics of income for 1940, Part 1, Table 2, Part 11.

Statistics of Income for 1940, Part 1, Table 2, art III.

Estimated: Ordinary net income minus the sun of personal exemption and credit
for dependents.

stinated Surtax net income minus earned income credit sinus net income subject
to normal tax.

stimated: Normal tax capitalized at 4 percent.

TISIVE 7-21-43

Data with respect to corporate income. declared value excess profits,
excess profits, and capital stock taxes, at levels of income for
corporations for the calendar year 1940
(Dollar amounts in millions; number of returns in thousands)
All

Returns with Returns with
:

returns

293

net income

:no net income

rporation income and declared value

LOOSS profits tax data

Total number of returns 1

517

Number of taxable returns

221

252

174

$11,203.2

$-2,283.8

$ 281.8
$ 202.9

$ 72.8

$ 225.9

$ 1,852.2

$ 168.5

assets other than company's own stock

$ 5,888.3

$ 200.5

profits tax 4/

$11,203.2

Net income 2/

Interest received on government obligations
subject to declared value excess profits
tax

Wholly tax-exempt interest
Dividends received from damestic
corporations

Aggregate dividends paid in cash and
Dividends received credit 3/
Net income for declared value excess
Net operating loss deduction 3
Adjusted net income 3/
Normal tax net income 4/
Normal tax

Declared value excess profits tax
orporation excess profits tax data
Number of taxable returns

Incess profits net income 5/
Specific exemption 5/

Excess profits credit 5
Unused excess profits credit 3/
Adjusted excess profits net income 5
Excess profits tax 5
Postwar refund of excess profits tax 3/
Corporation capital stock tax data
Number of taxable returns 3

Declared value of capital stock 3/

Capital stock tax

$11,203.2

$ 2,144.3

$ 30.7
13

$ 2,997.9

$ 67.2
$ 2,019.1
--

$ 911.6
$ 373.5
--

--

--

$ 132.7

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
ource:

-

--

July 21, 1943
of

Statistics of Income. 1940, Part 2. This publication is in process until preparation and figures should be considered preliminary and confidential
released.

The figure for "All returns" includes 43,741 inactive corporations. shown

for

both

In the case of returns with net income, the net income figure is reported for

taxable and nontaxable returns. Net income or deficit is the amount
declared value excess profits tax computation adjusted by excluding net operating
loss deduction.

Not reported in Statistics of Income.
Net income is the amount reported for declared value excess profits tax computation
adjusted by excluding net operating loss deduction (items 30 and 26, respectively.

page 1, Form 1120).

Returns with excess profits tax liability only.

Actual receipts for fiscal year ended June 30. 1940.

294

295

Data with respect to corporate income, declared value excess

profits, excess profits, and capital stock taxes, at estimated
levels of income for corporations with net income for the
calendar years 1942 and 1943

(Money amounts in millions of dollars)
Calendar year
1942

1943

Corporation income and declared value excess

profits tax data -Total number of returns

Number of taxable returns

Not available
Not available

Not available
Not available

20,500.0

23,000.0

600.0

600.0

1,350.0

1,300.0

4,000.0
1,140.0

3,900.0
1,095.0

Net income 1/

Partially and wholly tax-exempt interest received

Dividends received from domestic corporations
subject to tax
Aggregate dividends paid in cash and assets other
than company's OWN stock 2

Dividends received credit
Net income for declared value excess profits tax
Net operating loss deduction

lot available

Not available

250.0

200.0

Adjusted net income

Not available

Not available

Surtax net income 4
normal tax

11,124.4
11,235.0
2,525.7
1,744.5

11,742.8
11,828.3
2,688.0
1,836.1

100.0

100.0

Normal tax net income 3, 4/

Surtax

clared value excess profits tax
Corporation excess profits tax data -Number of taxable returns
Excess profits net income
Specific exemption

Excess profits credit
Unused excess profits credit
Adjusted excess profits net income
excess profits tax 5
Postwar refund of excess profits tax - gross

orgoration capital stock tax data -Number of taxable returns

Not available Not available
Not available Not available
Not available Not available
Not available Not available
Not available Not available
9,236.5
7,815.1

11,056.0
9,500.4

790.6

985.C

Not available Not available
Not available Not available

Declared value of capital stock
Capital stock tax
essury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.

6, 360.0
6/ 500.0
July 20, 1945.

Excluding dividends received from domestic corporations and both wholly and

partially tax-exempt interest.
less dividends received by domestic corporations.
Excludes net capital pains net income subject to the alternative rate of 25 percent.
Excludes net income of mutual insurance companies other than life which are
touble under Section 207, Paragraph 2.

After deduction of only that portion of the rostwar credit taken currently through

debt retirement,

fiscal years 1943 and 1944.

296
Estimated number of taxable individual income recipients,
components determining their taxable income, and their

tax liability incurred in the calendar year 1943 1
(Dollar amounts in billions; number of taxable
income recipients in millions)

Regular net income tax -Number of taxable income recipients 2

Personal exemption and dependent credit

37.8
$85.1
$37.8

Earned income credit and partially tax-exempt interest
ormal tax net income

$39.6

Net income

Surtax net income
Surtax

Normal tax

Wholly tax-exempt interest

47.3
$ 7.7

v 8.8
$ 2.4

Not available

Victory tax -Number of taxable income recipients 3
Victory tax net income
Gross Victory tax
Net Victory tax
Treasury Department,

Division of Research and Statistics.

49.9
$116.0

+ 4.2
$ 2.6

July 19, 1943.

1/ Excluding nonrecurring liabilities under the Current Tax Payment Act
of 1943 due in the transition to a pay-as-you-go basis.
2. Number of individuals receiving net income in excess of exemption.
The number of income tax units incurring net income tax liability,
estimated at 33 millions, is less than the number of taxable income
recipients because of the filing of joint returns including the income
of more than one taxable income recipient, particularly in the smaller
income classes.

3

Number of individuals receiving Victory tax net income in excess of
exemption. The number of income tax units incurring net Victory tax

liability is estimated at 45 millions.

297

Estimated number of taxable individual income recipients, their net income for
the purpose of the regular income tax and their Victory tax net income,

and their tax liability incurred in the calendar year 1943
Distributed by net income classes
(Number of taxable income recipients in thousands;

dollar amounts in millions)

Number of :

:

lasses 1

incurring :income tax
net
:regular net:
:income tax 1

income

Number of
:

Regular
Income tax
net income

income :
recipients : Regular

Regular

income

net

recipients

income tax

liability

liability :

3/

incurring
Victory tax

Victory tax
not

income

liability

Net

Victory tax

liability

2/

dollars)
Under 1

12
23
34
45

5 10

10 100

437

100 and over

Total

$ 5,137

6,370
16,917
7,741
3,616
1,605
1,145
8

37,840

24,925
18,322
12,182
6.930
7,309
8,652
1,674

$ 85,132

$

246

2,075

1,298
1,212
859

1,219
3,086
1,252

$ 11,249

9,454
24,634
8,998
3,616
1,605
1,145

$ 8,826

437
8

49,898

93

$

776

40,316
24,112
13,904
7,907

541
343
205

8,539

235

10.356
2,028

329

$115,987

88

$ 2,610
July 20. 1943.

easury Department,

vision of Research and Statistics.
to: Figures are rounded and will not necessarily add to totals.
The classification by net income brackets is in accordance with net income income as

determined by the Revenue Act of 1942 although the present law individual for the
tax liability of members of the armed forces is estimated after allowing Act of 1943.
$1,500 exclusion from base pay provided for in the Current Tax Payment The number of

Number of individuals receiving net income in excess of exemption. 33 millions, is

income tax units incurring net income tax liability, estimated at of joint

less than the number of taxable income recipients because of the filing partieureturns including the income of more than one taxable income recipient,
larly in the smaller income classes.
Excluding non-recurring liabilities under the Current Tax Payment Act of 1943 dueThe
of
exemption.
in the transition to a pay-as-you-ge basis.
income in excess
Number number of of income individuals tax units receiving incurring Victory not tax Victory net tax liability is estimated at

45 millions.

298

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.

July 23, 1943.
Mail Report

The week's mail, still numerically heavy, brought

little that was new or particularly interesting.

There was an occasional bitter protest of hardship
resulting from the withholding tax, and a number of
reports of what the writers considered errors in deductions, with the requests that the Treasury set their
employers right as to the proper sums to withhold from
wages. As in the case of the Victory Tax, questions
frequently arise as to whether such compensation as

overtime pay, or a bonus earned prior to the effective

date of the tax, but received afterwards, is subject to
the withholding tax. There were a number of advocates
of some form of sales tax, and no opponents.

This office handled approximately a hundred of
the replies to the telegrams asking corporations about

their preference in types of Treasury certificates.

Roughly three quarters of these replies favored a one-

year certificate, rather than a longer one; however,
a few firms asked for both a one-year and a five-year
issue. Thirty or forty slogans for the Third Bond Drive

were submitted, most of these coming in during the
early part of the week.

Bonds sent to the Secretary for redemption numbered
only 45, but there was increased comment on unwarranted

cashing of Bonds, especially in defense areas. Reports
of failure to receive interest dropped back to normal,
and complaints from personnel of the War Department fell

from 72 last week to 52 this week. It is interesting
that a great many letters report the writers and their

associates are now getting current Bonds without any

great delay, so that their complaint deals with the

299

-2Memorandum for the Secretary.

July 23, 1943.

first months of the deductions, usually in 1942.
A group of writers from the same locality in Florida
have listed Bonds due to them and ask refunds on the
entire group in order that they might buy new Bonds

from local outlets.

Miscellaneous mail included plans for post-war
purchasing; inquiry as to the disposition of N.Y.A.
equipment; an offer to sell the Treasury broken lots
of shoes; and a legal document stating that the
Government is to be trustee of the writer's property,

and to inherit it at his death.

Gatabush

300

General Comments

Robert G. Goree, San Diego, Calif. This Congressional

District was for a long while solid Republican. How-

ever, since 1936 we have had a wonderful Representative,
a New Deal Democrat, Ed V. Izac. He has been elected

by a fine popular vote against good opponents until
this last 1942 election, then he was elected by a
small majority vote. The cause lies in Washington,
with Professors and Theorists, mostly Republicans, who
have sent into our District new faces from the "Four
Corners" to hold positions in departments such as -Federal Public Housing Authority, Office of Price
Administration, with its various branches of Price
Control, Rent Control, etc., War Housing Center, etc.,
etc.
The most distressing thing is that the
Office of Collector of Customs here has been up for
reappointment or replacement for the past two years.
And, one of our outstanding Party followers, Thomas E.

Moss, Past Chairman of the Democratic Central Committee,

a fine and respected citizen, honest, energetic and
clear thinking, and loyal as any Southern Gentleman,

has the endorsement of our County Democratic Central
Committee, our State Democratic Committee, and the
National Democratic Committee by Mr. Walker, who was
here recently and met and talked with Mr. Moss per-

sonally. Yet, no action has been taken in the Treasury
Department to replace the old renegade "Sooner" Ex-

State "something" from Montana, whom Senator McAdoo

imposed upon this District when we still had a Republican Congressman in 1933-34. It has been brought to

our attention that you want a "big man" for this place.
Well, the one now holding, or rather, drawing the
salary came here to San Diego broke - "busted", and

when appointed was in debt to plenty of different

persons, to one of whom he owed his "room rent" in an

Auto Court for 26 months. He paid taxes of $7.65 on
an old junk au tomobile. Tell us where we can find
another who is any less a representative citizen than
of
this Carpet Bagger. * # # The Office of Collector

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-2Customs needs a real Administration man like Mr.
Moss in the place of this present incumbent who
is against our Congressman, supported Burton K.
Wheeler for President the last election, and who

has never put one of our Party into a job in his

Department. *

Christ Antonopoulous, Santa Barbara, Calif. I have
bought many U. S. War Bonds during the last year, but
when I buy a War Bond of the U. S., I am buying an
investment of the best kind. I am a Greek working
man, but an American by choice, and instead of buying extra Bonds this month, which will be paid back

later with interest, I have a better idea. My appreci-

ation of what America means to me can be exemplified
much better by something which I give from the heart,

so I respectfully ask that you accept the enclosed

Money Order for the value of one War Bond to be

applied to the building of the new mystery Aircraft

Carrier, "Shangri-La", to "Bomb Tokyo". Please

credit this small token of love and loyalty to one of
Uncle Sam's foreign-born sons, too old to fight (I am
over 60), to our Navy as suggested above. Praying
that millions of Americans will make at least one
gift to their "Uncle Sam" to win the war, I remain,
believe me, Yours very truly, Christ Antonopoulous.
Copy of letter addressed by Wm. C. Landis, Edgewood,

Pa., to Senator Harry F. Byrd. Thank you for sending

me copies of Senate Documents Nos. 54 and 66, covering

additional reports of your Committee on the National

Youth Administration and Federal Personnel, respec-

tively. I have taken the time to read these reports

very carefully and have also been extremely interested
in watching the progress of the matter through the

daily press. # * This is very gratifying to all of

us who are still hopeful that the American way of
life, and its Constitutional Form of Government may
prevail against the present trend toward bureaucracy

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-3and national socialism. You and your Committee are
performing a magnificent service to that end, and you

may be assured that you have the full support of all
straight-thinking individuals, and that more and more
of them are throwing their own personal weight behind

the things for which you stand. " # *

L. D. Read, Burbank, Calif. The majority of "We, the
People" are for you, as we all know the tendency of
the moment for increase, and some may not be too

particular how they do it. We have no desire to

gamble for the benefit of the money-changers. More
power to you and our beloved President, and all of
our sincere representatives in Washington.

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-4- Favorable Comments on Bonds

Max Goldberg, Illinois Baking Corporation, Chicago,

Ill. We suggest you issue one, two, three, four and

five year certificates in addition to longer terms

security so that small investors can have funds coming
due from the Government each year for the next five

years. Good luck in your undertaking. The country is
proud of your success in financing our war needs. This
telegram is sent prepaid, not collect.

A. E. Hindorff, Cashier, Jasper County Savings Bank,
Newton, Iowa. As a country banker with forty-two years'
experience, I wish to make a suggestion regarding the
redemption of Series "E" Bonds. I am enclosing herewith three forms which we use in sending these in for
collection through the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
It takes about two weeks before we receive the

checks for our customers. All of this causes a great
deal of extra help, both at local banks and no doubt
at the Federal Reserve Bank. It occurs to me that if
an officer of the bank makes proper certification on
the back of the Bond, with our seal, that a great deal
of time and labor would be saved if we could cash
these right over the counter and make a cash letter
direct to the Federal Reserve Bank for immediate credit.
This would certainly save a lot of expense all over this
great country of ours.
Esther Werner, Rea Silver, Ida Robinson, Members,

Evergreen Committee of Correspondence, Los Angeles,

Calif. # * # We are unalterably opposed to having War
Bonds on the Stock Exchange. Most people are buying
War Bonds with their hard-earned savings, denying themselves many things in order to buy war Bonds, and feel-

ing that they are doing their patriotic duty by so doing.

To put War Bonds on the Stock Exchange would be against

all American principles. We hope you will keep up your

determined stand against such a move.

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-5Mrs. H. Kenneth Dickes, St. Louis, Mo. I know that
the Government can't give the Army and Navy "E" to

"Information Please", but couldn't some public
recognition be made for the marvelous job done by
"Information Please" in selling War Bonds? Perhaps
something has been done, and I haven't seen about it if so, excuse me. I greatly enjoy the program and did

get such a thrill out of their Bond-selling tour, and
just like to see people get credit where credit is due.

Mrs. Elwood B. Cole, Oakland, Calif. I have just

heard an inspiring talk about War Bonds by John Nesbitt
on the Westinghouse radio program. As I listened, the
thought came to me that I had not heard the idea of
"collecting War Bonds" as a hobby stressed. It seems
to me a collection of War Stamps or War Bonds of as
many denominations of each issue as one could afford

would make a worthwhile gift to our children, and in

years to come, after the Bonds are called and have

become scarce, the se collections would become increas-

ingly valuable. If the idea caught on to any great
extent, it would mean rather an appreciable gift to
the Government, and to the war effort, since these
collections would not be turned in for redemption.

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-6Unfavorable Comments on Bonds

J. E. Powell, (Licensed Broker), Columbus, Ohio.

The writer, having the interest of our country at

heart, has just come into possession of annoying propaganda which he believes should be handed to you. It
seems that some one group has been setting forth
arguments against buying War Bonds upon the assumption

that if a Bond is issued in the name of John Jones or

Mary Jones, being husband and wife, and they should
meet death in a common casualty, the Bond would not

inure to the estates of the deceased, but would be
seized by the Government. The individual who told
the writer said he had heard the same argument on half
a dozen occasions, and neither he nor the writer can
believe such conditions would exist. If you continue

to hear reports such as this, the writer believes it

might be advisable to do some advertising to combat it.
F. H. Randel, Kent, Ohio. At a businessmen's luncheon
recently a statement or a repetition of a rumor was

made that is a bit disturbing. A little discussion

arose concerning the last Bond Drive. Every one still

felt good about the success of the campaign. Some of
the men who worked hard and earnestly in putting the
campaign in this city beyond the assigned quota were

quite proud, and rightfully so, of the outcome. # # #

Next came the statement by one of the men -- the April
drive was guided by a volunteer group of outstanding
Cleveland men, gentlemen under the direction of M. J.
Fleming of the Federal Reserve Bank. The September
drive will be managed by paid agents and Mr. Fleming,
along with the fine people who had worked with him,

will have little or nothing to do with the activities.

Our local committee felt hurt because the excellent job
of selling in April must not have been appreciated. Now,

Mr. Secretary, if the rumor is true, it is the writer's

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-7opinion, though you haven't asked for it, that the new
plan may have serious adverse effects. Couldn't the
Treasury Department make a sight more progress using

volunteer local talent in the person of leading citizens
to solicit the townspeople than by sending in strangers
and letting the former campaigners sit on the sidelines?

Martin E. Robison, San Bernardino, Calif. I began paying $20 per month for Bonds at S.B.A.A.D. July 1, 1942.
Up to and including December, 1942, I have never received any of the Bonds, and I would like to have my
Bonds or my money, as I have to buy a home in order to

have a place to live while I work for the Depot. Any
information will be appreciated. When I ask here, it
is one evasion on another.

Mayor Jesse N. Owens, Jefferson City, Mo. (Telegram)
Our people here are up in arms over your contemplated
removal of the State War Savings Finance Committee to
St. Louis. Coming after the removal of the WPA and

NYA to Kansas City, and the OPA to St. Louis, this is

the last straw. This office has a small force, but it

means much to this community, and little to an overcrowded city like St. Louis. We have vacant rooms,
apartments, and dwellings, and our people cannot
understand such a move. Our community doubled its

quota in the recent Bond Drive, and it is going to
take a lot of stomach for our leading citizens to put

on the coming drive and attempt to explain why we can-

not retain these departments in our city. The situation
is serious and an investigation by your office is in
order. (Similar longer telegram from Walter C. Brown
and Dwight Bedell, President and Secretary of the
Jefferson City Chamber of Commerce.)

Mrs. Ada Adams, St. Joseph, Mo. Whileyou are so busy
encouraging workers to take 10% of their wages for War
Bonds, why on earth don't you allow some of the Government workers to do the same? I run a boarding house

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-8for young women workers. Those from "Swifts",
"Armours", and other big business houses, sign up to
have 10% taken from their pay envelopes for Bonds, but

the two girls from the O.P.A. Office, and one from the
Federal Building have been trying for eight months to

be ALLOWED to have the same amount deducted. They

keep telling them that cards will be sent from Dallas
but one of the girls has been working since last Oct.
and the War will be over before Dallas gets around to
it. 4 # # Don't bother to send me the form letter,
"Thank you for your suggestion, and it will be referred

to the proper authorities, etc., If -- I worked in

Washington during the other War and know all about that,
I'll know whether my suggestion did any good when the

girls get a chance to buy Bonds regularly out of their

pay checks!

-9Favorable Comments on Taxation

A. M. Rochlen, Director, Industrial & Public Relations,
Douglas Aircraft Co., Inc., Santa Monica, Calif. You
will be interested, I am sure, to see how we have
undertaken to explain the operation of the new withholding tax to our employees. I am sending you a copy
of our plant newspaper, "Douglas Airview News", in
which we have devoted a double-page - article to this
subject. I hope we have succeeded in making a simple,

clear and graphic explanation to our workers of this

topic, which many of them had considered very complicated. This weekly newspaper, which we bring out in

each of our six big plants, reaches a total of 143,000

employees. I hope that, as a result of this article,

the gigantic task your Department has shouldered in
administering this tax may be somewhat lightened
through full and careful compliance by all Douglas

personnel.

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- 10 Unfavorable Comments on Taxation

G. M. Galvin, President, Jerry Galvin, Inc., (Boiler

Setters, Furnace Builders), New York City. We have just
completed making the routine returns for Victory Tax
Withheld, Social Security Tax, and Capital Stock Tax.
On each of these returns it is necessary to have a

Notary's signature. The writer believes it to be highly
blasphemous to call on God to witness the truth of a
routine tax return at such frequent intervals. Cer-

tainly there is nothing holy about these routine returns.
And that it is a nuisance was just demonstrated.
As long as I signed the return I must in person seek

the services of a Notary Public. I visited three

offices where Notaries are working. None of them hap-

pened to be in. Now it is necessary that I stick around
this office when I should be out on the job seeing that
boilers that are being converted from oil-firing to coalfiring will have the job done properly. Do you think
that you could possibly interest some one in obviating
this stupid requirement. The State of New York has
already dispensed with this silly nonsense, and it might
possibly help us to have a little more respect for the
intelligence of the officials of our National Government
if they use their head to try to make things as easy as
possible. # # *
Anonymous -- J.L.N., New York City. Nobody ismore
wholly in favor of deductions from pay envelopes as a
means of collecting income taxes than I am. Until today
when I received my envelope, less a deduction, my
disposition was to cooperate with the Government cheer-

fully. * * But now I am through. It may seem to be
a little thing to you, but to me it amounts to a lot

more than the mere figures involved. Instead of my
employer using his option to calculate the 20% deduction
exactly, he made use of your schedule for deductions
which, as it applies to my salary, takes $4.00 more per
month (payments semi-monthly) than would be the case if
calculated exactly against my pay, and this is because

- 11 I received a few pennies in that pay in excess of the
next lower line of deductions. That will be $48 a

year taken from me that I won't owe in taxes, and
which on my small salary actually is a hardship.
I feel that Congress betrayed us by enactment of

legislation that enabled chislers to get out of paying their 1942 income taxes, at least the 75% of it.

All the smoke about current position was nothing but a

screen for the big fellows to get their taxes cancelled.

As for the Treasury Department, it is most
irritating that never does anything emanate from there
on the subject of taxation that doesn't seem to be
beating around the bush and holding a joker up the
sleeve and consequently we reluctantly come to have

doubts about the sincerity of our Government officials.
Another thing that seems so insincere to me is all
the talk about the dread of inflation and that purchasing power must be drained off to stop it. Inflation

could have been stopped long ago, and you may be sure

that the majority of our citizens are not holding our
President responsible for the failure to stop the rise

in prices, nor the heads of most of the Government

Departments. # * * Most people who have money to spend

will continue to spend it without giving a thought to
inflation, but if the Government really meant what it is
saying about inflation, it could have acted before this

and put on a Federal Sales Tax. The fellow who will
spend in spite of all warning, regardless of whether
he actually needs what he buys, should be taxed heavily.
Until I am convinced that Government officials are
more sincere than they appear to be, I am not going to
take any chance of letting the Treasury get hold of

$48 from me by overdrawing from my pay envelope. So I
asked my employer to reduce my pay to the point that

would put the salary on the proper line for deduction,
and for him to just make a mental note of it and perhaps
some day to make a lump sum payment to me as a present.

I would not have done this had any information been given
out by the Treasury as to prompt refund of the excess

collections. All that I have seen about it in newspapers
is that there would be a refund or a credit given.

A refund should be made not later than the December 15th

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quarter, and if that is not done, then I am going to

protect myself as far as I possibly can. I will not

accept a credit from the Government for repayment since
after my experience today with your tax deduction
schedule I have no faith that the tax mess won't go
from bad to worse and end up in my never getting the

money back.

Judge William Hawley Atwell, U. S. District Court,

Dallas, Tex. For many months there has been deducted

from my pay check as U. S. District Judge, a so-called
tax. Beginning with August 1, that deduction is to be
quadrupled so it now amounts to twenty percent. All

of the Revenue Acts by which authority those deductions
have been made, and which authorize and require that
I pay an income tax upon my judicial salary, I conceive

to be unconstitutional. This communication is, therefore, a protest against such deductions, and such
collections. With expressions of respect, I am -

Yours very earnestly, William Hawley Atwell.

Charles F. Batchelder, Jr., Boston, Mass. Will you
please add my protest to the list of those whom I am

sure resent the inconvenience and apparent uselessness

of the requirement that the employers of this country
must swear before a Notary or other official when they

make out the withholding tax form V-1 when at the same
time they make out form SS-1 which only requires the
signatures of two witnesses.

J. C. Wratschko, Treasurer, New Britain Specialty Co.,

New Britain, Conn. It is unusual to write the Secretary
of the Treasury about such a problem as ours, but we

are destitute and it is the only way we have of letting
you know what our situation is, and how it relates to
our ability to pay our next installments of taxes. We

are a small concern which successfully sold its products

during the years 1941 and 1942. # # In spite of the

Small war Plants Act of 1942, which permits a tolerance
of 15% to the small plants, larger companies have dropped

their price to the Government to practically a cost

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fellow to compete. We paid our first two installments

of the 1942 tax and, hoping we would be able to obtain

orders in 1943, turned what little money we had left
into stock. Our representative has been in Washington,
and h as visited various divisions of the Small War
Plants Corps in the East but with no success. All

agencies contacted have gone through the motions, but
have been unable to produce results. We want to pay
our taxes and the Government is anxious to get them.

However, we absolutely will be unable to pay our third
and fourth installments unless the Government is willing to take merchandise in lieu of taxes, or unless we
obtain a Government order before the time the next installment comes due. * * #

Harry Scott Holland, Beloit, Wis. I see by the Chicago
Sun that the "tax experts???" in the Treasury are considering a tax on excess income, that is of the individual due to the War. What next will you screw-ball

New Deal economic saboteurs think of next, as the Sun
says, and of course even you know it is a New Deal

propaganda sheet. It is a class or cost tax and is

designed to keep all wage-earners in their place, and
even the Sun says this tax should be defeated at once.
Senator Sheridan Downey, (California). Please permit
me to send you herewith self-explanatory correspondence
I have received from Mr. George E. Hopper of Los Angeles,

Calif., with regard to his claim for abatement of

$452.35, an alleged overassessment of tax. Any assistance you can properly extend Mr. Hopper, and your
advice at your earliest convenience, would be appreciated,

believe me. (The following is quoted from the letter
written by Mr. Hopper to the Senator.) As a last means
to get justice, I am in desperation appealing to you as
my Senator for help. I am enclosing my latest letter
from the Treasury Department, in answer to an appeal
I made in the form of a claim for abatement on a tax

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that the local Social Security Department of the
Treasury placed over my head as a money grabbing

scheme. I have been black-balled by some one at this

end ever since I tried to prove to them I was not a

subject for their Title IX. As proof of my claim

for abatement, I sent to the Commissioner at Washington, through the Los Angeles Office, and I hope
it really was sent to Washington, copies of the attached
forms 843, together with a week-by-week copy of my
payroll record as to the number of men I had working
for me during that week; also four notarized statements
by men who had worked for me most of the time. # # *
Also letters from subcontractors who worked for me,
and owners for whom I worked during those two years,

and their statements were all similar -- "that George

Hopper did not have over seven men working for him

during 1938 and 1939". You can read for yourself the

third paragraph of their answer. It looks like no

matter what I would do, the answer would be the same,

so far as the Commissioner is concerned. I have lost
my business, and I am so near bankruptcy that I am in

fear of losing my home. I am in debt to the point that
I couldn't, if I wanted to, pay these claims that are

very unjust. The Treasury Department has a blanket
lien against me that keeps me from selling some vacant

lots that I bought for building purposes, and with the
money, pay off my creditors. I have a good with and
a boy 14 and a baby girl 2. They must eat and live
like respectable people. My car and my truck were
mortgaged to pay off Title VIII claims that I paid
through fear, but I am down now and fear doesn't mean

anything any more. # # # Hoping that I have given

you enough information to see clearly my case, and
hoping to God that you will help me out of this mess.

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JUL 23 1943

ily dear Justice Byrnes:

I have your letter of July 22, 1943 and the

memorandua from Payne Coy which you enclosed.

For many decades the Department of State and
the Treasury Department have successfully coordinated

their activities. This coordination has been based

upon e ommon understanding, good faith, and a autual

respect for not only the responsibilitics, but also
the dignity, of the other Department. 1 believe that

the traditional relationships between the two Depart=
ments must be maintained, and that it would be an error
of serious and far-reaching consequences to attempt to
freese these relationships by means of a set of formal
rules. Such rules can only result in misunderstandinga,
hard feelings and a general straining of relationships.
The foreign activities of the Treasury Department
range from the most inconsequential matters to matters
of great significance. It is impossible to define in
any satisfactory way the procedures for handling such
relationships other than to follow the traditional
pattern which has worked well for so many years. To
attempt to virtually codify the Treasury's procedure
of contact with the State Department is not only
completely uncalled for in the light of experience

but would impede the operations of both Depart tments
and the attainment of the common objectives which they
seek to achieve.
Sincerely,

Sent by S.S.Agt
4:15 pm

(Signed) H Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the
Honors le James F. Byrnes,
Director,
War Mobilisation Board,
The white House.

HDW:r1 7/23/43
JED: AFL:

Photo of incoming ltr

from Byrnes, Memo to
Byrnes from Wayne Coy and

ltr. to Byrnes from Cordell
Hull; also copy of reply to
Byrnes in Diary.

OFFICE OF WAR MOBILIZATION
WASHINGTON, D.C

July 22, 1943
Byrnes

Dear Sir:

J

I am enclosing to you a memorandum of the meeting

held in my office on July 19th.

Sincerely yours,
AMES F. BYRNES.

Hon. Henry A. Morgenthau,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

Bureau of the Budget
Washington, D.C.
July 20, 1943

ANDU TO JUSTICE BYRNES

I an giving you herewith & summary of the meeting held Monday morning,

you

19th, at which you discussed the letter of July 16th, 1943 addressed to
by the Secretary of State. All references in my notes are to that letter

mless otherwise designated.

with respect to paragraph 1 of the letter, you stated your conclusion that
you would advise the Secretary of State to proceed with the coordination of
foreign economic activities as he had been doing, and made particular reference
to the continuation of the coordination of such activities in liberated areas
under the President's letter of June 3rd to the Secretary of State. (I assume
that you will put such a directive in writing to the Secretary of State).
Paragraphs 2 and 3 of the letter did not seem to raise objection though I
think I should point out that paragraph 2 was not discussed at any time. Paragraph 3 was discussed and there soemed to be complete agreement.

Paragraph 4 was discussed at some length. I do not believe there was any
objection stated to the first sentence of this paragraph. There WILB rather insistent objection to the last sentence of the paragraph. The State Department,
as I understand it, is to submit departmental projosals as to the manner in which
they will handle the representatives abroad of the various agencies.
Paragraph 5 was discussed at some length and there seemed to be agreement on

the general principIes upon which communications would be handled though I all

afraid that putting those principles in writing may be somewhat difficult. The
following paragraph is my best effort to do it,
5. All cable communications between officials engaged in foreign
economic work in foreign countries and Washington shall be conducted
exclusively through State Department channels of communication. All

mail communications dealing with policy questions, in whole or in part,

shall be conducted exclusively through State Department channels of
communication. Copies of all communications other than those in the
two preceding categories shull be furnished to the Department of State.

It is obvious that the arrangements discussed in the preceding
paragraph create a rather difficult situation between the agencies It and will
the Department of State. Tolerance on both sides is called basis for. of 630

be necessary for the various agencies to work out, on the ared
perience, matters handled by mail communication which must be cl be

through the State Department. It is urged that good faith efforts

made to arrive at such an understanding as promptly &S possible.

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pragraph 6 WILS discussed and revised. I believe the following conles the agreed revisions

6. That in each significant center of operation the Depart
ent of State may & point, within its discretion, a Minister or

Counsellor on Economic Affairs (under the Chief of Diplomatic Mission or the Military Commander, as the case may be), with the
authority to guide and unify all economic work of the American
Government within the area of his authority. With respect to liberatod areas the Secretary of State shall appoint, after consultation
with the members of the Policy Committee (as established by the
President's letter of June 3rd to the Secretary of State), an Area
Director who shall have the powers and duties as provided for in the
President's letter of June 3rd aforementioned.
The subject matter of the ponultimate paragraph was not discussed.

/s/ Wayne Coy
Wayne Coy.

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Washington

July 16g 1943

dear Justice Byrness

order to assure that the conduct of foreign economic affairs is "in
confernity with the foreign policy of the United States as defined by the
Secretary of State" (President's Executive Order of July 15g), it is
requested that the Director of Kar Mobilisation give written instructions
to all agencies concerned in this work to the following effect:

1. That in providing for the unification of the activities of the
Federal Government relating to foreign supply, foreign procurement and other

foreign economic affairs in conformity with the foreign policy of the

United States as defined by the Secretary of State" (Paragraph 4 of Executive
Order of July 15, 1943), the office of War liobilisation has determined to
ubilize for this purpose the facilities of the Department of State, including
its Office of Foreign Economic Coordination.
2. Rach Government agency engaged in foreign economic work shall have the

duty of ancertaining that its plans and activities are in conformity with

the foreign policy of the United States as determined by the State Department.
For this purpose the Department of State, through customary channels, should
be advised of all plans and activities in advance and its agreement secured.
In the event of any conflict of views between the State Department and any
other agency on the requirements of our foreign poliey, the views of the
Department shall be accepted.

3. All negotiations with foreign governments which may be conducted at
home or abroad shall be carried out through the Department of State or its
establishments or under their supervision or independently by their consent.
4. The State Department shall be consulted in regard to appointments of
officials who engage abroad in foreign economic activity and its consent
obtained before appointment. Such officials shall assume such status as
members of a unified United States mission in the area concerned, or as a
special mission as the Secretary of State may determine.
5. Communications between officials engaged in foreign economic work in
foreign countries and Washington shall be conducted through State Department
channels of communication, and in accordance with the foreign policy of the
United States as determined by the Secretary of State.

6. That in each significant center of operation the Do artaent of State
may appoint, within its discretion, a Director of Economic Operations
(under the chief of diplomatic mission or the military comander, as the
case may be) with authority to guide and unify all economic work of the
American Government within the area of his authority.

be followed out, and the following be
named as directors, the Secretaries of
State, War, Navy, and Interior. The
Department of State,

Is is also desired to request the Director of Bar liabiliantic (a)

panus State Department - the Board of Directors of the
United States Gommercial robin milestarbody (b) that in

dressing the by-Tem of the Petrolean Corporation the Directive

by the President to the Secretary of of course, is entirely
If the office of the Director of Waz Mobilization wishes to Jelia

or to make same appointment therebe, Is is needless to explanaine Mintthe

operation of this organization will in a most direct and decisive -

into the course of our foreign relations and the of State

anticipates
very continuous and active participation in the operation of
that
organisation,
In order to avoid current confusion is would be appreciated if the provaling
instruction could be issued to the agencies concerned at the earliest posethis
moment.
Sincerely yours,

(signed) Cordell Hull

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L

JUL 23 1943

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I am enclosing for your attention and consider-

ation a copy of my letter of this date to the Secretary of State on the subject of an appropriate policy
with respect to the narcotics problem in occupied

territories.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Mergenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Navy

By Messenger Manus 4:25
Enclosure

Copy of ltr. and
enclosure in Diary.
Orig. file ret'd to Anslinger
Office by Messenger Glande

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JUL 23 1943

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I am enclosing for your attention and consider-

ation a copy of my letter of this date to the Secretary
of State on the subject of an appropriate policy with
respect to the narcotics problem in occupied territories.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Mergenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.

The Honorable

The Secretary of War

Enclosure

By Messenger Manus 4:25

Copy of ltr. and
enclosure in Diary.
Orig. File ret'd to Anslinger's

office by Messenger

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JUL 23 1943
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

My dear Mr. Secretary:

Reference is made to your letter dated June 26,
1943, (File FE 890.114 Narcotics/4), enclosing copies
of letters addressed to the Secretary of War and to the

Secretary of the Navy outlining the general narcotic

policy adopted by this Government many years ago in con-

nection with restricting the use of narcotic drugs to

medical and scientific requirements.

The Treasury Department is extremely gratified to

note that the Department of State has taken the initiative
in formulating a policy to bring about a solution to the
perplexing problem of smoking opium monopolies in the Far
East immediately upon the occupation by our forces of part

or the whole of any one of the territories now occupied
by Japanese forces.

As your Department asks for an expression of our
attitude on the proposed policy of seizing upon occupation

all drugs intended for other than medical and scientific

purposes which may be discovered and of closing any exist-

ing opium shops or dens, I take pleasure in pointing out
that the time is propitious to abolish smoking opium
monopolies when the United Nations recapture territories
where monopolies were formerly in existence.

The continuance of smoking opium monopolies did not

solve the problem of fulfilling the obligations of The

Hague Convention. While this Convention called for a
gradual and effective abolition of these monopolies, they

were continued without any success toward solving the

opium smoking problem. It is not improper, therefore,

to ask why a new system should not be undertaken when the

United Nations recapture these territories.

By Manus 4:25

PHOTO. File in Diary.

Orie. File ret'd to Anslinger's Office

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-2The war in the Pacific has wiped out the European

administration of smoking opium monopolies in all territories in the Far East formerly owned by Great Britain
and The Netherlands. All of the old administration is
gone. While information as to how the Japanese are

operating these monopolies is meager, there is no doubt
that they have taken over the monopoly system in its
entirety and have probably encouraged consumption.

The advantage of a new system would be to dissociate
completely from past Japanese action the policy of United

Nations occupation forces. This would have the effect of
impressing on the understanding of the populace the difference between the new United Nations policy and the
Japanese policy. A fundamental change in the smoking

opium monopoly system would be a simple and dramatic way

of bringing this difference to the attention of the whole

population. If the monopolies are abolished upon reoccupation, such action could always be pointed out as showing
the good faith of the United Nations.

In a letter dated July 8, 1943, to you from Secretary

of the Navy Knox, commenting on the desirability of adopting a common policy in this regard, he stated that the
abolition of these monopolies would increase the cost of
our military government, particularly because of the loss

of revenue due to not selling opium. I believe that this

expense would be a fine investment because of the permanent

social, economic, and political advantages which would
thus accrue to the United Nations and to the rest of the

world.

First and foremost, consideration should be given to

the danger of our troops becoming addicted to smoking

opium in these territories. Merely declaring these shops
out of bounds by military police would not solve this
problem. It has been our experience that where opium or

other narcotic drugs are readily available addiction be-

comes prevalent. Addiction among our troops would precipitate a tremendous problem for the Treasury Department

after the war in its enforcement of the narcotic laws.

Addiction might spread by leaps and bounds among the

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-3military personnel. Upon returning to the United States
they would become the prey of the drug peddler. The
illicit market thus created would cause an up-surge of

illicit manufacturing in Europe and the Far East. The

United States would again become the victim of this

traffic. Upon their return the cost of hospitalizing

soldiers to cure them of drug addiction would be considerable. The Treasury Department would probably have
to ask the Congress to double its appropriation for enforcing the narcotic laws in order to meet the problem.
This consideration is of paramount importance and of
domestic concern, aside from the larger aspects of the
international narcotic problem.

In the fourth paragraph of his letter, Secretary

Knox states that the practice of opium smoking and eating
is more widespread among the Chinese element of the popu-

lation than among other elements, and he believes it
would be of assistance in any program of suppression if
the Chinese Government would enunciate a clear and un-

equivocal policy of total suppression in any area to be
occupied or reoccupied by its forces alone or jointly
with those of the United States. I am pleased to com-

municate to the Department the text of a personal telegram
dated July 6, 1943, sent to the Commissioner of Narcotics

by Dr. Victor Hoo, Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs, at

Chungking:

"I have been taking up the matter referred

to in your letter of April 21 ever since I ar-

rived in Chungking. I am glad to inform you
that all formalities have now been fulfilled and

the decision has been taken by our highest author-

ities to instruct our expeditionary forces to

suppress opium monopolies and opium smoking im-

mediately after occupying the territory concerned.
Can you send me the text of your instructions to
American troops so as to enable us to coordinate
our actions with a view to practical and detailed
measures of prohibition. We intend to destroy
stocks.

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It is assumed that this policy has been decided by

Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek and that your Department

will receive formal notification in due course.

It would be a splendid contribution to this effort

if we could enunciate our policy to the Chinese and send
them a copy of military orders to suppress monopolies.
The advantage of this action at present would greatly
stimulate Chinese morale. During this particular period
when the British and American Governments are unable to
send to China all the material that is asked for and
needed, a statement of new policy by the United States,
and possibly later by the British and Dutch, on opium
monopolies supporting and paralleling the policy of the
Chinese Government would be a great gift in the field
of morale in this interim when transportation has been
reduced to a trickle over the Himalayas. Such a state-

ment on policy of opium monopolies would have a much

wider and more heartening effect all through China than

would the abrogation of extraterritoriality, as people

all over China, occupied and unoccupied, know more about

the opium problem than they do of extraterritoriality.
They will all understand what this means. The United
Nations would be aided by this dissociation with Japanese
opium policy. It would also accomplish the removal of an
old source of antagonIsm between the Chinese and the

British. It would be a pillar of support to the policy
of the Chungking Government.

The abolition of smoking opium monopolies is particularly necessary to achieve limitation of opium production

to the medical needs of the world after the war. It is
almost impossible to arrive at a global total of legitimate
opium needs as long as these monopolies exist because they
show wide variation in consumption year after year.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) M. Mergenthan, Jr.

Honorable Cordell Hull
Secretary of State
Washington, D.C.

CC: Secretary of War

Secretary of the Navy

Secretary of the Treasury

DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

reply refer to

890.114 Narcotics/4

June 26. 1943

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

My dear Mr. Secretary:
The Department has studied the minutes of the meetings which have recently been held under the sponsorship

of the Foreign Policy Association for the discussion of
the question of the suppression of the abusive use of
narootics in areas in the Far East now occupied by
Japanese forces when such areas are reoccupied by the
armed forces of the United Nations. Copies of those
minutes are enclosed herewith for convenience of

reference.

As a result of this study, the Department has addressed to the Secretary of War and to the Secretary of
the Navy identical letters, copies of which are also enclosed herewith. In these letters the Department has outlined the general policy which was adopted by our Government

many years ago as regards the restriction of the use of narootic drugs to medical and scientific requirements and
has requested the views of the War and Navy Departments
concerning the advisability, immediately upon the occupation by our forces of part or the whole of any one of
the territories in the Far East now occupied by Japanese
forces, of seizing all drugs intended for other than

medical and scientific purposes which may be discovered
and of closing any existing opium shops or dens. The
proposed action is substantially that advocated by the
Commissioner of Narcotics in the meetings referred
to

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.

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to above. While the Department is aware that the proposed action is in consonance with the narcotics policies formulated and supported by the Treasury Department,
it would be pleased to receive from the Treasury Department, for the record, an expression of its attitude on
this subject.
Sincerely yours,

6

Enclosures:

1. Copies of letters to the War
and Navy Departments.

2. Minutes of meetings of December 4, 1942, January 13, 1943
and March 17, 1943.

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CONFIDENTIAL

414-7
CONFIDENTIAL

July 8, 1943
My dear Mr. Secretary:

In reference to your letter FR 890.114 Narcotics/4
of 26 June 1943, the Navy Department desires to assist in

formulating a common policy on the suppression of the abusive
use of nercotics in such areas now under Japanese control AS
our forces may later occupy.

Regardless of any other policies that may be developed

it is the policy of this Department, in accord with established

practice under U. S. Navy Regulations, 1920, Article 118, peragraph 3, when forces under its jurisdiction occupy en aren in
which the use of opium or other narcotics is legal, to declare
all opium dens and narcotic shops or dispensaries out of bounds
to our personnel and to enforce the order by shore patrol. The
Department also through its responsible officers proclaims the

sale or gift of narcotics to its personnel illegal and punishes

violators in its military courts.
It is, as you know, obligatory on the military govern-

ment of occupied territory under the Hague Conventions of 1907

to respect, unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in
the country thus occupied. If the sale of narcotics is legal
In on area occupied by forces under jurisdiction of the Nevy
Department, the suppression of this drug traffic may be accomMished either on the basis of military necessity as protection
for our own personnel or, in the event that the territory is
abject to an allied government or to & recognized government
exile, by agreement with that government to suspend the laws

smitting such traffic if common policy so dictates. The
ted Kingdom has expressed 8, desire to control through the
mbined Chiefs of Staff occupational policies in their former
rritories regardless of which Allied force may occupy them.
nce a common policy based on agreements with the United
ingdom, the Netherlands and China is clearly desirable. It
uld secure continuity and avoid the appearance of the United
Sates Government or its neval commanders acting arbitrarily
O suppress a hitherto legal traffic.
Available information suggests that in the areas
amed in the third paragraph of your letter, the practice of

pium smoking and eating is more widespread among the Chinese

element of the population than among other elements. It would
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SI

assistance in any progrem of suppression if the Chinese
Ament would enunciate R clear and unequivocal policy of
suppression in any area to be occupied or reoccupied by

forces alone or jointly with those of the United States.

While this Department approves the formulation of a
common policy to suppress the abusive use of narcotics in areas
it may occupy, it is aware that enforcement of such a policy
will decrease the revenues of the local government and increase

the costs of our military government. It will demand considerable

increase in neval personnel assigned to military government and

civil affnirs. Intelligence and patrol officers and enlisted men
will be needed, in some areas in large numbers, to suppress smug-

gling and illicit trade in drugs and to prevent crimos attempted
to obtain narcotics. Officers must be added to staff the commis-

sions and the provost courts necessary to handle drug cases.
Associated with these must be additional medical officers and
hospital corpsmen with training in the control and treatment of
addicts.

The course suggested in the fourth paragraph of your

lotter is clearly desirable in the view of this Department. It

may be practicable within the limitations suggested by the foregoing.

If and when a common policy on this subject is adopted
directives will be issued by this Department to the responsible
officers in the Pacific and Far East.

Since you have sent letters on this subject to the
Secretary of War and the Secretary of the Treasury, I - taking
the liberty of forwarding each of them 0 copy of this reply.
Sincerely yours,
Frank Knox
The Honorable

Cordell Hull,
Secretary of State.

opies to:
The Secretary of War.
The Secretary of the Treasury.
Bureau of Medicine & Surgery.
Judge Advocate General.

Bureau of Naval Personnel.

Commandant Marine Corps.
Commandant Coast Guard.

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I

reply refer to
99.114 Narcotics/4
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

My dear Kr. Seoretary:

From the time the Government of the United States

took the initiative in bringing about the first inter-

national conference on the subject of narcotic drugs,

which WAS held in Shanghai in 1909, and proponed the

convening of the international conference which resulted
in the opium convention signed at The Hague on January

23, 1912, it has been the consistent policy of our Government to cooperate with other nations in the control
of the legal trade in these dangerous drugs and in international efforts to suppress their abuse. At those and
subsecuent conferences representatives of the Government
of the United States have clearly stated that the policy
of the United States Government in to limit the production and manufnature of narmotin drugs strictly to
medicinal And scientific requirements and to consider
use for any other purpose AR abuee. This policy 18
incorporated in the lows of the United States, which
prohibit the use of prepared opium. The BADE policy
has been pursued wherever the Juriediction of the United
States Government hRA extended. For exasple, shortly

after our Assuaption of control over the Philippine
Islanda, Congress enected leginletion prohibiting the
importation of opium in the Philippinen except for
medicinal purposes.

The Government of the United StateR hns on avery
appropriate occasion endervored very earnestly doctrina to that

induce other government# to accent the modianl and
the use of onium should be restricted to hava
soientific purposes. A nuaber of governmenta but

minified their acceptance of thin principle, it DOB-

unfortunately ROME countries have not found eliminate

sible, owing to special circumstances, to

The Honorable

Henry L. Stimeon,

Secretary 09 inr.

completely

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completely the use of opium for smoking and eating, par-

sicularly in their territories and possessions in the

Far East.

The Department is desirous at this time of form

lating a common policy to be adopted by the interested
governments having as an objective the suppreesion of
the abusive use of nareotic drugs in areas in the Far
East now occupied by Japanese forces when such areas

are reoccupied by the armed forces of the United Nations.
These areas are the Philippine Islands, parts of China
including Manchuria, Rong Kong, French Indochina,
Kvangehov-van, Thailand, Burna, the Straits Settlements,
the Federated Malay States, Johore, Perlie, Kedah.

Kelantan, Trengganu, Brunei, Baravak, British North
Borneo, the Netherlands Indies, Nev Guinea, and other

territories in the Southwest Pacific.

It is anticipated that in all of these territories

there will be found organisations soonsored by the
Japanese military forces for the sale of narcotic drugs
for other than medical purposes. Owing to the presence
of opium, opium shops and opium smokers in these areas,
in the opinion of the United States Commissioner of Narootios, there would be danger of infection of susceptible
individuals because it has been well established that
most persons who begin to take drugs do 80 because of

the accessibility of drugs and because of close association NEW persons who indulge in them. From the stand-

point of the health and discipline of the men of the
armed forces of the United States, it is believed that
it will be advisable, immediately upon the occupation
of part or the whole of any one of the above-mentioned
territories by our forces, to seise all drugs intended
for other than medicinal and scientific purposes which

may be discovered and to close any existing opium shops
or dene. Such drugs include opium prepared for smoking

or eating and heroin, the use of which to eatisfy addiotion is injurious, according to the majority of experts.
Wherever our forces are in complete control, it is
assumed that they will be guided by our long established
narcotics policies, but where they are collaborating
with other members of the United Nations, our Government of
will take steps to obtain the concurrence on the part
those members in our proposed action.

The

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The Department will be pleased to receive at an
early date any comments or views which the War Department may sish to express concerning the desirability,

advisability and practicability of pursuing the course
suggested in the preceding paragraph. If any orders

have been issued by the War Department to its Command-

ing Officers in the Far East on this subject, the

Department will be pleased to be informed of their

purport.

Similar letters are being addressed to the Beeretary of the Navy and the Secretary of the Trensury.

For the strictly confidential information of the

War Department, there are enclosed herewith the minutes
of meetings which have recently been held under the

sponsorship of the Foreign Policy Association on this
subject, The attention of the War Department 18 partioularly drawn to the last paragraph on page 9 and
the first four paragraphs on page 10 of the minutes of
the meeting held on January 13, 1943.
Sincerely yours,
Cardell Hall

Enclosuresi

Minutes of meetings of December 4
1942, January 13, 1943 and March 17,
1943.

In reply_refer to

PE 890.114 Narootion/4
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

My dear Mr. Secretary:
From the time the Government of the United States

took the initiative in bringing about the first inter-

national conference on the subject of nareotic drugs,
which was held in Shanghai in 1909, and proposed the
convening of the international conference which resulted
in the opium convention signed at The Hague on January

23, 1912, it has been the consistent policy of our Gov
ernment to cooperate with other nations in the control
of the legal trade in these dangerous drugs and in international efforts to suppress their abuse. AS those and
subsequent conferences reprecentatives of the Government
of the United States have clearly stated that the policy
of the United States Government is to limit the production and manufacture of nareotic drugs strictly to
medicinal and scientifie requirements and to consider
use for any other puppose as abuse. This poliey is
incorporated in the laws of the United States, which
prohibit the ⑉ of prepared opium. The policy
has been pursued therever the Juriodiction of the United
States Government has extended. For example shortly
after our assumption of control over the withouine
Islands, Congress enacted legislation prohibiting the
Amportation of opium in the Philippines except for

medicinal purposes.

The Government of the United States has on every
appropriate occasion endeavored very earnestly to

induce other governments to accept the doosrine that
the use of opium should be restricted to medical and
scientific purposes. A number of overnments have

signified their acceptance of this principle, but

unfortunately
The Honorable
Frank Knox,

Secretary of the Navy.

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fortunately some countries have not found it poeAble, owing to special circumstances, to eliminate
pletely the use of opium for smoking and eating, par-

ficularly in their territories and possessions in the

Far East.

The Department is desirous at this time of formulating a common policy to be adopted by the interested
governments having as an objective the suppression of
the abusive use of nareotic drugs in areas in the Far
East now occupied by Japanese forces when such areas

are reoccupied by the armed forces of the United Nations.
These areas are the Philippine Islands, parts of Ohina
including Hanchuria, Hong Kong, French Indochina,
Kvangehov-van, Thailand, Burna, the Straits Settlements,

the Federated Malay States, Johore, Perlis, Kedah,
Kelantan, Trengganu, Brunei Sarawak, British North
Borneo, the Netherlands Indies, New Guines, and other

territories in the Southwest Pacific.

It is anticipated that in all of these territories

there will be found organisations sponsored by the
Japanese military forces for the sale of narcotic drugs
for other than medical purposes. Owing to the presence
of opium, opium shops and opium smokers in these areas,

in the opinion of the United States Commissioner of Nar-

eotics, there would be danger of infection of susceptible that

individuals because it has been well established of

most persone who begin to take druge do so because associa-

the accessibility of drugs and because of close the stand-

tion with persons who indulge in them. From of the

point of the health and discipline of the believed men that

armed forces of the United States, it is occupation

11 will be advisable, immediately upon the above-mentioned

of part or the whole of any one of the intended
territories by our forces, to neize all drugs which

for other than medioinal and scientific purposes opium shops

may be discovered and to close any prepared existing for smoking

dens. Such drugs include opium which to satisfy addic-

or eating and heroin, to the majority of experts,

are in complete control,
will be guided by our
or assumed Wherever tion 18 injurious, that our forces they according the use of collaborating long established it is

narcotics policies, but where they are our Government

of the United Nations, part of

with will other take steps members to obtain the conourrence on the

those members in our proposed action.

The

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The Department will be pleased to receive at an

early date any comments or views which the Navy Depart-

ment may wish to express concerning the denirability,
advisability and practicability of pursuing the course
suggested in the preceding paragraph. If any orders

have been issued by the Navy Department to its Command-

ing Officers in the Far East on this subject, the
Department will be pleased to be informed of their purport.

Similar letters are being addressed to the Seoretary of War and the Secretary of the Treasury.

For the strictly confidential information of the

Navy Department, there are enclosed herewith the minutes of meetings which have recently been held under
the sponsorship of the Foreign Policy Association on

this subject. The attention of the Navy Department
is particularly drawn to the last paragraph on page 9
and the first four paragraphs on page 10 of the minutes

of the meeting held on January 13, 1943.
Sincerely yours,
Cordell Holl

Enclosures:

Minutes of meetings of December 4
1942, January 13, 1943 and March 17,
1943.

MESTING IN THE OFFICE OF THE COMMISSIONER OF MARCOTICS

December 4, 1942, 9:00 a.m.

PRESENT: Mr. Harry J. Anslinger, Commissioner of
Narootios,

Mrs. Helen Howell Moorhead, Director,

Foreign Policy Association,
Professor Joseph P. Chamberlain, Director,
Foreign Policy Association,

Mr. Herbert L. May, Director, Foreign
Poliey Association,
Dr. Victor Hoo, Chinese Vice Minister of
Foreign Affairs,
Dr. J. Hung Lieu, fornerly Chinese Minister
of Public Health,
Mr. George A. Morlock, Department of State.

Mrs. Noorhead explained that the Foreign Policy
Association for many years had maintained a narcotics
research unit, of which Professor Chamberlain, Mr. May
and herself were members, and that at the present time

this group was interested in formulating a policy which

the United States Government and other governments might
adopt ae regards the suppression of opium smoking and the

drug traffic in areas which might be reccupied by the
an tary OF naval forces of the United Nations in this
confliet. She said that the discussion contemplated
was to be entirely informal and unofficial. She hoped,
however, that as a result of the discussions at this
and future meetings it night be possible for the Opium
Research Committee of the Foreign Policy Association
to make a report of some value to the authorities dealing with the question.
It was agreed that the discussion should concern
with the situation in Burna primarily because
itself there is strong probability that an allied drive on
Burna may take place in the near future.
Dr. Lieu suggested that when Burma 16 recocupied

the allied forces the Ammediate prohibition of

by smoking opium be enforced and that all monopoly sup-

piles be confiscated and destroyed.

Mrs.

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Mrs. Moorhead said that opium supplies might be

of great value a year or two hence in the event that
the United States is obliged to supply other countries,
including the United Kingdom should the drug supplies

of the United Kingdom be destroyed by bombing, and
that she would recommend that such stocks above one

ton as might be confiscated in Burna be put in the
hands of an international body for safekeeping and
preservation.

Mr. Anslinger said that monopoly supplies on hand

in all Far Eastern territories amounted to about 250
tons, that if large quantities were found in warehouses
they might be preserved but that small lots should be

destroyed.

Professor Chamberlain thought that 18 might be

difficult to transport large quantities of opius out

of the reccupied areas.
Dr. Lieu stated that a distinction should be made

between opium stocks for smoking purposes and stocks

for medical needs, the latter to be taken in charge by
the military medical authorities.
Mr. May felt that whether opium stocks in Burna
should be preserved or destroyed depended upon whether
the trade routes between the United Nations and Iran or

Turkey remained open.

Mr. Anslinger stated that the United States has a
stook of opium sufficient for four years and that the

United States could produce large quantities of morphine
from poppy straw on short notice, probably within a year.
Mrs. Moorhead, in view of these statements, said
that she would withdraw her suggestion that lots of

opium above one ton be preserved.

It was suggested that the monopoly countries might

be compensated for opium destroyed.

Dr. Hoo said that the financial and legal questions
involved were too small to be worth considering,
Professor Chamberlain inquired whether the Chinese
Government would follow the policy outlined above.

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Dr. Hoo replied that he say no reason why the
Chinese Government should not do 80 as it is carrying

out such a policy in the areas in China which it
reccupies. If the Government of the United States

adopted that policy, China would agree.
Mr. May wondered what should be done in onse heroin
were found.

Mr. Anelinger said that before the war the United

States Government destroyed heroin but 18 now converting heroin into oodeine as a war measure.

Dr. Hoo said that the heroin found might be from
the stores of the Japanese army, in which case it could

be put in charge of the regular authorities, but of
course other heroin would be regarded as illicit.

Professor Chamberlain thought that the Department

of State could give instructions to the military or

naval authorities along these lines.
Dr. Lieu said that heroin is not used in medicine
in China.

Mr. Morlook said that some question would arise in
regard to the treatment of addiota on humanitarian
grounds.

Mr. Anslinger said that in the United States hundreds of addicts had been taken suddenly off drugs with-

out a fatality.

Dr. Lieu said that in China 97 percent of the
addicts had given up their habit without deleterious
effects.
Mrs. Moorhead said that the British would question claim as

sovereignty over Hurma and regard the drug if the
R domentio one; that they would argue that

Burmese were suddenly deprived of their drugs, that esuggled riots

would and that they would contend take
opium occur; from Indo-China and China would immediately

the place of monopoly opius.
Dr. Hoo said that there would be no sauggling from
China,

Mr.

Mr. May ventured the opinion that there would be

no riots if public opinion supported the suppression
of smoking opium.

Dr. Hoo said that there was now no legal cultivetion of the opium poppy in free China and that the quantity of opium produced in Western Yunnan was inconcider-

able.

Mr. Morlook said that information in the possession
of the Department of State indicated that there was
some cultivation of the opius poppy in Western Yunnan
and that it appeared to be inconsiderable.
Dr. Hoo added that the borders between Burna and

China are indefinite and that if the Chinese Government

enforced its anti-opium laws too strictly, the border
would thus lose jurisdiction over that area. He said
that the borders are being patrolled and that there is

markers would be moved into Chinese territory and Ohina
no movement of opium from Yunnan into Burna.

Mr. Anslinger pointed out that the monopolies had
never succeeded in keeping the snuggler out.
Mrs. Moorhead then raised the question of how to
get British agreement on the proposition to suppress
smoking opium in reoccupied territories.
Professor Chamberlain said that the British Government would have to issue instructions to their

military authorities. He added that there was also a
revenue question involved.

Mr. May thought that the British might yield if

pressure were brought to bear upon them from the United
States, China, Australia and New Zealand.
Dr. Hoo said that Great Britain would undoubtedly
consider the question A domestic matter.
Professor Chamberlain said that perhaps the pressure could be brought through the Pacific Council.
Dr. Hoo asked whether the suppression of opium

could be considered to be a military question.

Mr.

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Mr. Morlook said that the British held that opium
was necessary to preserve the health of the workers in
ewampy areas.

Dr. Hoo said that most of the addicts in Burma

were Burmese and not Chinese.

Mrs. Moorhead referred to the situation in Java,

where the addiots were mostly Chinese, and inquired
whether the laws of the Chinese Government would apply.
Dr. Hoo said that the Chinese Government had no
law covering the situation but had urged Chinese abroad

to report to the Chinese oonsuls and to give up their

opiun-smoking habit.
Professor Chamberlain said that the United States
Government would probably have to furnish the adminis-

trative officials for Java in the event Java is reoccu-

pied because probably none could come from the Netherlands.

Dr. Hoo said that he regarded the suppression of
opium smoking as A military necessity for the safety
and welfare of troops. As regards the Pacific Council,
he stated that that body does not pass resolutions hav-

ing the force of law but that all questions have to be
referred to the individual governments. The Counoil

merely discusses questions.

Mrs. Moorhead then asked for suggestions conoern-

ing the procedure to be followed in approaching Great

Britain.
Dr. Hoo said that we must contact the British and
Dutch Governments.

Mrs. Moorhead inquired whether a British representative might not be brought into the next meeting
or representatives of Canada, New Zealand and Australia.
Dr. Hoo commented that Mr. Ronborg had indicated

that at the recent meetings in London the British and
Dutch representatives took A favorable attitude toward
the question of suppression.
Mr. May explained that Mr. Delgorge had indicated
that if total world prohibition could be effected, he
would be in favor of suppression.
Dr.

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Dr. Hoo resarked that he felt confident that during

the war there would be less smuggling than heretofore.
He said that he thought Great Britain could be approached

by formal or informal representations of the interested
governments or by a group in Great Britain interested
in the question.

Mrs. Moorhead suggested that possibly Joint representations could be made to the British Foreign Office
by China, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and the United
States.

Dr. Hoo said that perhapa the Proific Council was

not the right organisation in which to take up the question and that he WAS inclined to agree that the question
should be raised with the British Foreign Office and that
either China or the United States could do 80.

Professor Chamberlain said that perhaps the Commis
sioners of the Dominions could take the matter up with

the British Foreign Office.

Dr. Hoo oommented that the British might resent
such action if prior agreement had been attained by
China and the United States with Australia, New Zealand
and Canada.

Mrs. Moorhead said that she still thought that
informal discussions could be had with the representstives of the Dominions and that an agreement could
probably be reached among these representatives. The

American State Department could then, if it sav fis,

make representations to Great Britain and the Nether-

lands.

Mr. May raised the question whether the question
could be taken up at a meeting of the Opium Advisory
Committee AS a starting point.

It was decided not to risk an adverse vote at
such a meeting. It was also suggested that a resolution of the Opium Advisory Committee would carry little
weight at this time.
with regard to asking a British representative to
attend a future meeting, Mr. May said he was afraid
that a suitable British representative could not be
found in Washington.

Mrs.

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Mrs. Moorhead said that the British Ambasaador was

familiar with the opium problem.
Mr. May said that he had learned on his recent visit
to London that some British familiar with the subject
felt that if Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek requests that
opium be suppressed throughout the Far East, the British
would aoquiesce.

Dr. Lieu said that the initiative in this antter

might very well oome from the Chinese and that the matter could be put before the Generaliesimo. The Generalissimo could then inform the Government of the United

States of his policy.

Dr. Hoo said he would speak to other Chinese officials upon his return to China, to which country he was

proceeding on Monday, December 7. and that he would
inform Mrs. Moorhead what could be done.

Professor Chamberlain said it would be the duty of
the occupying troops to establish regulations in a
reoccupied territory.

Mr. Anslinger said that the question arose in Africa
and the military authority had inquired whether there
would be danger to the troops from the legalization in
Tuninin of takrouri and that he had replied that there
would be such danger and a consequent possible breakdown

of discipline. He added that he assumed that the commanding officers will ask that the takrouri shops be
closed.

Dr. Hoo said that he thought it WAS important that
the use of takrouri be suppreened in Africa AB a precedent. Otherwise it would be difficult to secure the
approval of the British Government of A policy for the
suppression of smoking opium and other dangerous drugs

in the Far East.
After discussion it WAS decided to hold another

meeting on Wednesday, January 13, 1943, at 9:00 o'clock
a.m. in Mr. Analinger's office; that the Foreign Policy
Association would endenvor to have representatives of
Australia and New Zenland present and that Mr. Analinger
would RAK Colonel Sharmon of Canada to be present.

IN THE OFFICE OF THE
O NARCOTICE,
1943.

PRESENT: Mr. Harry J. Anslinger, Commissioner of
Nareotics,

Mr. Herbert L. May, Vice President of the

Permanent Central Opium Board and mem-

ber of the Drug Supervisory Body,
Dr. Joseph P. Chamberlain, Professor of
Public Law, Columbia University,

Mr. L. H. McIntyre, Second Secretary of the
Australian Legation,
Kr. T. R. Aickin, Second Secretary of the
New Zenland Legation,

Mr. George A. Morlook, Department of State.
Mr. May explained that he WAS a member of the Board

of Directors of the Foreign Policy Association and since

1928 had been engaged in opium and drug control work.
He WAR present at this meeting, however, as a member of
the Opium Research Committee of the Foreign Policy Asso-

ciation. thought that the prenent was a good time to

have informal discussions in order to ancertain whether
further progress could be ande in the problem of the
suppression of opium smoking and possibly in connection

with the limitation of production of narootic raw

materialn, first the poppy and later OPOR leaves. A
meeting had recently been held attended. by Dr. Viotor
Hoo and Dr. Lieu, Chinese, at which the smoking onium
problem had been discussed, particularly in connection
with suppression in the event that the allied forces
reentered territories now occupied by the Jananese and
suppression at the close of the war.
Mr. Anslinger stated that Colonel C. H. L. Govern- Sharman,

Chief of the Narcotion Division of the Canadian but

ment, WHO to have attended this morning's meeting
found it impossible to come; that Colonel Sharman's
views on the subject for discussion, however, coinoided
with or were parallel to those of the American could Govern- not

ment; and that Dr. Lieu WAR in New York and

be present. Mr. Analinger BRID with regard to recaptured the sub-

Jeat of smoking onium that in all territories

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and reoccupied by the military forces of the Chinese
National Government, those forces would abolish the

smoking opium monopolies which have been maintained and

encouraged by the Japanese and that in the event that
Chinese forces took over areas in Burma, they would imme-

diately suppress opium smoking.

Mr. May thought it would be R good idea to have an
exchange of views among those interested in the Pacific

area.

Mr. Anslinger said that there had been, Just before
the war, nome Afficit traffic between Australia and
Honolulu involving smoking opium sold by the monopolies
and some illicit smoking opium. Because of this he felt
that Australia would be interested in plans for the suppression of smoking opium in the Southwest Pacific.
At the suggestion of Professor Chamberlain, Mr.
Morlook said that the Department and information that as
regards the cultivation of the opium poppy, the Chinese
National Government had almost completely suppressed

such cultivation in the areas over which it had jurisdic-

tion, with the exception of areas in the wild and mountain-

ous sections of Western Yunnan and Southern Sikang, and
that as regards suppressing smoking opium it had been very

successful in all sections except Bikang and parts of the
province of Yunnan. The Department also had reports that
the cultivation of the opium poppy and the traffic in
opius and other narootic drugs in China was forbidden by
law and that the law was being reasonably well enforced.
Mr. Analinger anid that he assumed that the British

would take over the opium monopoly in Burna in the areas
they recaptured.
Mr. May commented that the Chinese are interested
in suppressing the smoking of opium in the areas they
recapture for reasons of health and economics. He also
said that the Governments of Canada and the United

States feel that no long as the smoking of opium is permitted there will be smoking of that substance; that the
Western European countries RFO interested in the limita- the
tion of the production of raw materials as one of
best means of controlling the situation because the
production of raw opium cannot be limited until the
world's

world's legitimate demands for raw opius are known. He
added that the abolition of smoking opium WAS therefore
important an R first step and that he hoped that Canada,
New Zealand, Australia and the United States would be

able to see this problem eye to eye. Kr. May said that
he got the impression in London last fall at R meeting

attended by members of the Opium Advisory Committee,
the Persanent Central Opium Board and the Drug Supervisory

Body that at the close of the WRP If the Chinese Government demanded the suppression of opium smoking, the powers
that possessed colonies and territories in which smoking
opium monopolies have heretofore existed would be willing
to listen to the Chinese Government. Mr. May then inquired
whether the Government of Australia had ever made an offi-

cial expression of policy on this subject.

Mr. HeIntyre said that the subject WAR one with which

he WAS not familiar, that Mr. Watt of the Australian
Legation knew more about it than he did. He WAS of the
opinion that the subject was not one in which Australia
had taken close interest in the past few years. He was
aware that Australia had taken an notive interest in the

proceedings of the Opium Advisory Committee of the League

of Nationa but did not know of any expression by the
Australian Government of policy or opinion in regard to
the opium smoking problem.

Mr. Hay commented that the Opium Advisory Committee

was concerned with the illicit traffic and that the
Permanent Central Opium Board concerned itself with the
legitimate traffic and that Australia had cooperated
thoroughly with these organizations.
Mr. Anslinger recalled that Australia had sent a
delegate to the Narootics Limitation Conference of 1981
at Geneva.

Mr. XoIntyre said he felt that Australian policy,
broadly speaking, would be in line with that of the

United States.

Mr. Aickin said that that would be the position of

New Zenland also and that the Minister of New Zealand
had told him that the Government of New Zealand would

cooperate in this matter if nything could be done.
From time to time illicit narootics had reached New

Zealand

land and had been promptly confincated. Only legiti-

te stocks were allowed to enter New Zealand.

Mr. NoIntyre said the feeling of the Minister of

Australia and of the Government of Australia WAB similar
to that of the Minister of New Zealand and the Government
of New Zealand.

Professor Chamberlsin suggested that Mr. May make &

brief statement in regard to the control of manufactured
drugs.

Mr. May explained that the system of control under
the international conventions WRA built un on estimates

of the legitimate needs of the countries of the world

and that the Drug Supervisory Body, whose members do not
represent governments, reviews and passes on there eati-

nates, which are required to be submitted by countries
before August 1 annually, and that if R country should
import beyond its estimates, An embargo could be declared
and the countries of the world notified to CORRA exports

to such R country. He anid that this syntem in in effect
at the present time, notwithstanding the war, in all

parts of the world excent Axis Kurope and Japan and the

areas occuried by the Japanese military forges. For this
year the estimates of 48 countries have been received.

Mr. May added that the Opium Advinory Committee, whose
members represent governments, denla with the whole sub-

jeet of drug control. Kr. Hay nlmo said that at the

beginning of the war most of the countries of the world
had replied to an inquiry from the Permanent Central
Onium Board to the effect that they were interested in
seeing drug control work continue without interruption
during the war.
Kr. Anglinger anid that wherever American military
forces occupied territories, the onium mooking monopolies
would be closed.

Fr. .ickin incurred west nation the ritish would

take under similar conditions.

Kr. Analinger an id that ne believed the British the
and the Butch would continue the monopolier. on naval

other hand, he AN16 that if the United States

forces should occupy Forneo, the onium mononoly in

that territory would be suppreaned; that United States

policy

0

policy would be to seise the opium, probably destroy it
and close the shops.

Mr. May said he understood that Mr. Anelinger meant

that for the period of the occupation, until a peace

treaty were concluded, the monopolies would be suppressed.

Mr. Analinger said that Australia might be frood
with the problem also because her military forces would
be involved. He pointed out that unless R policy were
agreed upon in advance, there might be a elash of

policies. also said that he did not know whether

the Japanese had placed Japanese or local officials in
charge of the opium monopolies in the areas they have
occupied but he felt that they would not have allowed

the British to function.

Mr. May inquired whether the Australians had an
opium smoking problem in the mandated areas under their

jurisdiction.

Mr. HoIntyre said that the problem had not arison

in such areas.

Mr. Alokin said the problem had not arisen at all
in areas under the Jurisdiction of New Zealand.
Mr. Analinger stated that Just last week at New
York R seizure of 48 cakes of Indian opium bearing markinga of the Indian Government had been seised in spite

of the fact that opium in well controlled in India.

Mr. Alokin said he assumed that the United States

Government WAR interested in the opium problem from the

humanitarian point of view. Professor Chamberlain
replied that thin Government is also interested from

the eoonoaic point of view and that it is A ticklish

quention.

Mr. Anslinger GR10 that the Canadian problem is

similar to that of the United States RB Canada is also
a victim of enuggling from abroad. He added that most
of him trouble in with heroin which has been snuggled
from the Far East and that both Chinese and white people
in the United Staten Are addiets.
Mr. May enid that he thought the Attitude of the

British Government could be ascertained from past

records

records; that the British would be in agreement with the
United States on some points but they would probably
also have to consider the question of revenues and the

administration of colonies and territories under their
control in the Far East. The British would perhaps argue
that the tin mines and the rubber plantations could not
be operated unless the smoking of opium were permitted.
Mr. May called attention to the fact that the Interna-

tional Labor Organization people held that Chinese workmen could be obtained for the tin mines and the rubber
plantations even if the smoking of opium were forbidden.
He also stated that the Chinese resent the fact that in
most of the territories smoking opium in kept away from
the natives and Europeans and in nade available to the
Chinese.

Mr. Anslinger said that he had the feeling that the
tories last winter was the result of the opium smoking
habit and called attention to the manner in which the
Filipinos had resisted the Japanese in cooperation with
the foresa of the United States.
weakness demonstrated in many of the Far Eastern terri-

Mr. Morlook said that in Hurma there vere about

0,000 Burnese smokers, 18,000 Chinese smokers and about

11,000 Indian eaters of osiun and that in the Ketherlands
there were about 43,000 Chinese smokers and about

35,000 native smokers, He also drew attention to a
statement which appears in the report of the
Methorlands Indies Government on prepared opium for the
year 1940 to the effect that consumption of opium is
thorised only in cases in which refusal would lead to
illegal consumption.
Mr. Analinger said that the Duteh always have
stated that they could not abolish their opium monopoly
system until smaggling ceased and that the British and
the French also used the same argument in defending
their monopelies.

Professor Chamberlais stated that Ghina is detersined to prevent the smoking of opium among Chinese
and that for this reason the problem of opium
smoking should be attacked next.
Mr. Amelinger said he believed that the success
of China's six-year plan for the suppression of opium
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and other narootis drugs had frightened the Japanese
as the Japanese saw that China, after throwing off the
opium habit, would become a strong power. He said, how

ever, that the situation in India is of another solor
and that it is an internal matter. Revertheless, is is

worse than the situation in China because of the enormous
consumption of opium.

Mr. May said that he regarded opius smoking as a

problem of the Pacific and that if Ganada, Australia,
New Zealand and the United States would say that n was
necessary to abolish the smoking of opium, Great Britain
and the Netherlands might fall into line.
Mr. Alokin suggested that the question might be

placed on the post-war agenda.

Professor Chamberlais said that one should bear in
mind that there were two problems, (1) the immediate
suppression of smoking epium in the recocupied APOSS

and (2) the eventual suppression of smoking epium.

Mr. Analinger said that one of the primary concerns
was the welfare of the United States troops and that M
those troops were pinced in contact with opina he felt
sure there would be some addiction. In fast, the Army
is experiencing the problem right now in connection with
marihuana. He added that he had information that in

Egypt, British, American, Australian and New Zealand

soldiers are noting as carriers of nareoties. Even the

Japanese, who thought that their soldiere were Amouns to
nareoties, have found that more than 1,000 of their
troops acquired the nareoties habis as Wanking,

Mr. Aiokin inquired whether representations had yet
been made to the British Government on this subject.
Mr. May replied in the negative and emphasised the

fact that the discussions 80 far had been purely infor
nal and unofficial.
Nr. Analinger said that the question had been
raised whether to bring the matter before the Pacific

Council.

Mr. HeIntyre said that after the war we will VOTT
likely have the British, the Dutch and the French having

go along and do away with the smoking of opius but
that he thought that the immediate problem in connection

8h the occupation of territories by troops WRS the

serious one.

Professor Chamberlain said that he thought it would

be difficult for the colonial authorities of Great Britain
and the Netherlands to defend the monopoly system; that
it was not a question of suppressing smoking opium in the

interests of the natives but in the interests of the

world.

Kr. NoIntyre inquired whether this question came up

at the conference of the Institute of Pacific Relations

at Nt. Tremblant, Canada.

Professor Chamberlain said that he did not think so.
Mr. Analinger said he was reasonably sure that it
did not because if it had he would very likely have heard
of it from Canadian sources. He added that it would be
impossible to have the four freedoms and still sell opium.
Mr. Analinger then asked for A suggestion with regard to
a suitable approach to the interested parties, the British,
the Dutch and the French, as it WRS difficult to work out
a practical course.
Mr. HeIntyre said that his imnediate problem would
be to find out how strongly the Australians were thinking
about the satter; that his own feeling WAR that the
Australians felt about the matter the way we do here;
that he know there WAR a large group--the Governmental

group in Australia--which WAS seriously thinking of every
angle in connection with the general problem in the South-

west Proifio area but that when he left Australir several
months ago the Australians were not giving any particular
thought to this matter of smoking opium. His first
inolination would be to bring the problem before them,
present it AS A problem--A most important one--and net

them to thinking about it and see how they feel about

bringing it into the general picture after the war. AS
for carrying it beyond Australia, if he were to report
the discussion of this morning he had no doubt that the
Australiana would incorporate the subject in their general
disquasions and plans but he could not say at the monent
whether their suggestion would be to PRISE the matter
informally

v

informally with the United Kingdom Government and with
the Ketherlands East Indies Connission La Australia.
Rhess were things which would have to be done at the

earliest possible soment. Kr. NeIntyre asked to that
extent this meeting was formal or informal.

Mr. Anslinger replied that he and Mr. Nerlook were

attending the meeting informally; that both had
for years
and
thatbeen
be was
mire
views
views
that
have
held
bythat
thethese
United
States with
approved by the Treasury and State Departments. added
that he was cooperating closely with the Foreign Policy
Association and was anxious to see something started in
an official may in order to bring about better feeling.
Mr. MeIntyre inquired about the opium smoking prob
1cm in the Philippines.
Mr. Anslinger said that there was smoking of opium
in the Philippines; that the United States Government
tried to suppress it and succeeded very well but that

there WAS constant snuggling of smoking opium from Hong

Kong in particular.
Mr. May said that there was very listle smoking of
opium in the Philippines in comparison with what there
would have been if the United States had established an
opius smoking monopoly.

Professor Chamberlain wondered what anchinery would

have to be established to suppress the opium monopolies,

whether it would be done by simple prohibition or by

prohibition of transportation or by policing, whether,

perhaps, the Permanent Central Opium Board could help.
Mr. May commented that the job of the Permanent
Central Opium Board WBS largely to prod the national

organizations.
Mr. Anslinger remarked that 31 years had elapsed
since the signing of the Hague Opium Convention, under
which the signatories agreed gradually to suppress the
smoking of onium.

Professor Chamberlain stated that officers of the

United States Army and NAVY are studying problems,

including the opium smoking problem, in connection with
the

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the study of the administration of territories about to

be recocupied.

Mr. MeIntyre inquired whether these officers had
been given instructions in regard to the suppression of
opium smoking.

Mr. Anslinger replied that such instructions had
been given categorically.
Professor Chamberlain said that by the time United
States forces get into the Pacific, the Army and Navy
will understand the problem and will be ready to move

against it.
Mr. Anslinger said that he desired to avoid a clash
with the British and the Dutah in the Far East over this

matter by ironing out the difficulties first.

Mr. NeXntyre inquired whether there had been any

discussions with representatives of the British Govern-

mast.

May replied that while he was in London last

September he had not discussed the matter with anybody

arthority but had spoken to officials and former

officials of the British Government who were thoroughly
familiar with the subject and that the view they expressed
was that they thought 11 was & political problem and that
x the Chinese asked for the pression of smoking opium,
they would probably get 18. That view was the long-tops
view under the international conventions; there was no
discussion, about the interia period of occupation, He
said he thought the suppression of the opium smoking
monopolies by the British and Dutah Governments without
Talling the request of the Chinese Government would be

gusture comparable to the relinquishment of extra-

territorial rights in China.

Mr. Analinger said he thought such a move would be
the and would please the Chinese, who are bitter on the

SHAPP thing to do; that 18 would be a political

subject.

As on present felt that the subjeet had been ther-

eighty discussed, the meeting then adjourned.

It

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IS was tentatively agreed to convone another meeting
on March 17, 1943 and to request the presence of representatives of Great Britain, the NetherLands, China,
Ganada, Australia and New Zealand,

TRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

MINUTES OF A MEETING IN THE OFFICE
OF THE COMMISSIONER OF NARCOTICS,

MARCH 17, 1943, 10 A.M.

PRESENT: Mr. Herbert L. May, Director of the
Foreign Policy Association,
Professor Joseph P. Chamberlain, Director
of the Foreign Policy Association,
Mr. Alan S. Watt, Counselor of the
Australian Legation,
Mr. Cecil E. King, Second Secretary of
the British Embassy,
Mr. N. A. J. de Voogd, Secretary for
Japanese Affairs, Commission for the
Netherlands Indies in the United
States,

Mr. Harry J. Anslinger, Commissioner of
Narcotics,
Colonel C. H. L. Sharman, Chief, Narcotic
Division, Department of Pension's and

National Health, Canadian Government,
Mr. George A. Morlock, Department of State.

Mr. May explained that General Frank McCoy, Mrs.
Helen Howell Moorhead, Professor Joseph P. Chamberlain

and he were Directors of the Board of the Foreign
Policy Association and were also members of the Opium
Research Committee of that organization and that Mrs.
Moorhead WAB unable to be present because of illness.
He said that the Ovium Research Committee had followed

closely all developments in the opium field for more
than twenty years and that the members of that Com-

mittee, felt that it would be well to have informal

discussions on questions not only affecting the

Pacific Area and onium smoking but those connected

with the situation which will prevail After the war.

He added that AO far the discussions had been confined to the question of onium smoking and that Professor Chamberlain and he hoped that the discussions

would be given a more formal character later in connection with the plane of the United Nations in regard
to the distribution of raw materials and RO forth.
The problem of smoking opium presently being discussed involves the question of what should be done

in case some ieland or territory 18 occupied by the
military forces of the United Nations where a smoking-

opium monopoly exists. That 18 the immediate problem.
The long-range problem 18 what should be done in regard
to the opium monopolies and the opium problem in general. The immediate question which has been DORED in
these discussions 16 "What will happen if the American

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forces should occupy a country or island where opium
smoking has been permitted in the event that there
is a Joint occupation?"

Another question is "What Will happen if the

British or the Chinese alone should reoccupy Burma,

for example?" These discussions are informal. These
meetings have no special standing but it is hoped
that AB a result of these meetings there will develop
A common point of view which can be formalized, perhope, by consultation of the prober bodies.
Professor Chamberlain said that he had nothing

to add to Mr. May's statement of the aims of the

meetings and then RAKED Mr. Anslinger if he wished

to make A statement in regard to the attitude of the

Chinese concerning the question under discussion.

Mr. Anslinger said that the Chinese National
Government had A six-year plan for the suppression
of the cultivation of the onium Donny and the smoking of opium and had made good progress, un to the

time the war started, in the area underite control;
that they had done an excellent job in ridding the
country of opium; that in all areas which they are
retaking from the JADRNESE they Are immediately

stopping the sale of opium, seizing all opium, destroying all opium and prohibiting the smoking of
ovium; and that they intend to pursue that policy
wherever their military forces take over. For
instance, if they should occury Burma, AB Dr. Lieu
said at the meeting on December 4, 1942, they certainly would not permit the sale of opium, Mr.
Anslinger added that A clash of policy would probably
occur between the Chinese and the British because so
far 86 he now knew, the British would not Adopt a
policy of complete subnreasion of opium smoking in
territories in which they formerly had Jurisdiction,
Dr. Lieu had elso said that it was the experience of
China that the cessation of sales of smoking onium
to addicts had not resulted in fatalities Among the
addicts. Mr. Analinger said that the suppression of
smoking opium would assist in building a stronger
and better people; that the problem is principally
one for the Chinese: that they are determined to
suppress the use of smoking opium in China and particularly among overseas Chinese when they reoapture

any territories,

Mr.

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Mr. Anelinger seid that the American forces would
follow R similar policy; that he WAR sure that wherever
American forcee occury territories, the smoking-apium
monopolies would be immediately suppressed; and that
those forces would try to find the opium stocks and
close un the opium shone in Areas where the British,
Dutch or Japanese had formerly been, in control. Mr.
Anslinger drew attention to A Japanese broadcast on

March 10, 1943 in which A Japanese spokesman said

that the Japanese hed stopped the sale of opium in
all parts of the Far East where they have occupied
territories. In this broadcast, of course, they
were trying to counter the propaganda from the

United States.

Colonel Sharman commented that the JEDANESE

might find it profitable to suppress smoking opium
and then to sell heroin.
Mr. May said that the Chinese probably felt" AB
strongly about-opium smoking.... they did:about extra-

territoriality And that with them it:is a very important political problem, Mr. Analinger said that the

Chinese felt even more strongly about opium than

about extraterritoriality; that this feeling has not
yet broken out but that in due time it will. He
added that the Americans are going Along. with the
policy of complete suppression Just 88 they did in
the Philippine Islands because under United States

laws no other policy is possible.

Mr. MAY stated that at the Gnium Advisory Gommittee meetings at Geneva an effort WAG"MADE to

devise A convention for the limitation of raw
materiala 86 sources of the drug traffic and it WAS

universally reoognized that before A.D. estimate could
be made, of the world's needs for medicinal and scien-

tific purposee, t' would be necessary to control the

opium smoking problem.

Mr. Anslinger said that the American military
authorities would find it necessary to declare Areas
where opium smoking shops existed AS "out of bounds"

for the protection of their troope; He felt that

there would be an increase in addiction among
Americans after the war because of the close RBBQ-

ciation of American troqda with opium in the Far

EAST areas. He BAId that this statement WPB based
on the knowledge that drug addiction sprangs from
association

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association with drugs and addicts. . He did not
suppose that the Americans woul tolerate conditions where the, troops could get into such areas
Colonel Sharmen asked whether the American

authorities hed. already declared the marihuana shops

out of bounds in Tunisia. Mr. Anslinger replied in
the effirmetive. He added that the French authori-

ties in North Africa still had civil, control and

that the Americans had not been able to do anything about closing the shons but that they were
trying to get the Regency to ston the sales during
the occupation in any case.
Colonel Sharman said, with the understanding

that everything WAS "off the record", that he wished
to remark that Canadian troops in one of the West
Indies hed got infected with marihuane and at certain stages of the war were brought beck to Caneda
and that he WAS astonished at the number of cases

of addiction. He added that the soldier in the
tropics easily falls a victim to such addiction
through association and contects and that the
infection spreads like wildfire.
Mr. Watt said that the minutes of the last

meeting contained the information that in Egypt,
British, American, Australian and New Zealand
soldiers were acting as carriers of narcotics and

that he would like to have more information if it
were not very confidential. Mr. Anslinger said that
it WAS information given to him by Sir Thomas Russell
in seizure reports; that in these reports the
Egyptian Government naturally did not want to stress
the matter too much for fear of unfavorable oub-

licity. Mr. Watt said - that perhaps Mr. Anslinger
could give him the information at a later date. He

added that the Australians wanted to know what the
problem 18. Mr. Anslinger said that an American
Army officer had looked into the situation and had
had talks with Sir Thomas Russell and had said that
the trooDA had acted 86 carriers. Mr. An'slinger
further sairi that he noticed 8 week ago that the

Italiana picked that up and broadcest it, seying

that United States trooDS were being debauched in
Egypt.

Colonel Sharman remarked that the traffic 1s

due to the desire of some soldiers to increase their
I

finances, although in the case of the Americans they
do not need extra money to the same extent.

Mr.

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Mr. May said that SO long AS opium smoking is

permitted in the Far East there 18 a possibility of
troops Acquiring eddiction and of drugs being smug-

gled from countries in the Far Eest to countries in

the West.

Mr. Anslinger said that the United States has

had much onium smuggling from Hong Yoha and that

Colonel Sharmen hps had more experience in that con-

nection than hes the United States. Hé gust ested
that Colonel Sherman tell his story

Colonel Sharman said that Canada had opened. A

Legation at Chung & year ago and that he hed

informed Dr. Victor Hoo that he was in favor' of BUD-pressing onium smoking wherever found. He said that

whereas 15 years ago Cenada hed handled 150 cases of
opium smoking A year, Canada had only two cases. in

the past five years; that it has been almost com-

pletely stamped out 86 e ME tter of domestic policy;
that the Canadians out the problem before the
British in no uncertain terms as regArds the smug-

gling of smoking onium from Hong Konk. to Vancouver:

and that there WAS a 1ot of trouble ten years ago
with the Canedien Pecific Reilway concerning their

ships in the Prcific until several fines of €40,000

each were imposed on the owners by the United States

on Account of seizures of drugs. Then they cot
interested and began to place special Beents on
board their shipe. People had been found traveline
on these shina who were neither sailors nor DASsengers but racketeers. One got killed and another
WAS thrown overboard, while a member of the police
barely escaped with his life efter he WAS poisoned
Epch of those vessels had un to six hundred Chinese
86 crew members. They would buy ell the onium they
wanted at Hong Kong which WAS under the British out

flag, rom 8 Government vendor and take it of it on

the Empress ships. They would smoke some Reilway on

the Syover. It cost the Canadien Pacific control

320,000 P year for treined detectives onium to used to
the situation on the ships. A can of would sell
832 et Hon, Kong or Singenore and

cost for $50 to $100 at Vencouver. When found In illegal sent
possession of smoking onium, the offenders under are which

to Jail under the same fle ES the one extent the

they obtained the onium. To a certain Sharman
AP1C further that it WP S difficult for the British

Blue Funnel Line WF A alfo a cerrier. Colonel Cenedians

to heve that sort of thing yoing on under the

flag

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flag, and he pointed out that the cost of suppress-

ing this illicit traffic was greater to the public

than the value of the drugs needed by Caneda for
legal purposes. He also said that the more successful the Canadian Government WAS in suppressing the

illicit treffic, the higher prices went and the more

the racketeers were encouraiged to ettempt smuggling.
A can of smoking opium at Vencouver now sells for
$950, the highest price in the world. Colonel
Sharman stated that et Geneva the Canadians have

tried to do their best to suppress opium production
to the limits of medicinal needs. Colonel Sharman
said he was trying to be as dispassionate as DOS-

sible. He spid that Mr. Nind, the Indian delegate
to the Opium Advisory Committee et Geneva is a
friend of his, that for weeks they served together
on the special limitation committee, and- that Nind
said he WAR not free to discuss the limitation of
opium in the Indian States: that he edmitted that

there were 6,000 shops selling onium in those States.

Colonel Sharman queried "How can you sundress opium

if you have 6,000 shops in India?" He se16 that
although India does not export onium to China any
more, it does export smoking onium to Zanzibar on
the ground that there are Indiana there. He e sked
why shipments should be allowed to Zanzibar. If
it is admitted, he said, that it can be shipped to
any place where there are Indiens, it could be
shipped also to Canada. Colonel Sherman stated that
personally he is in favor of any plan which involves
the disabpearance of odium in excess of medical

needs.

Mr. May said that he supposed the Chinese would
request that opium smoking in the Far Fest be banned

and that he presumed also that the countries which

have mononolies there have considered what they are

going to do about it and have considered elso whether
to make a Lesture in advence of a demend on the opium part

of the Chinese Government to suppress smoking

and thus add to their prestige in the Fer East.
Mr. Anslinger sur ested that it would be some-

like the relincuishment of extraterritoriality.

Professor thing Chemberlein said that Dr. Victor Hoo lays
stress on the suppression of smoking ónium than is

more on the relinouishment of extraterritoriality. He
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs et Chungking.

Professor now Chemberlain added that Dr. Hoo said before

o

he left Washington that this WPS one of the most

important

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important things he W86 going to take up with his
Government

Mr. Anslinger said that the attitude of the

Netherlends Government in the past has been that it
could not suppress smoking opium while the illicit

traffic existed. Mr. de Voogd said. that the attitude
of his Government has been that since opium could
come illicitly to the Netherlends Indies, the best

way to handle the situation WAS to keep smoking opium

under control and in that way gradually prepare for
the total prohibition of opium smoking. Mr. Anslinger
remarked that these arguments were familier.
Colonel. Sharman said that Just before the out-

break of the war in the Pacific, Australia wes innocently assuming a role of participation in smoking
into the United States and Cranda. The stuff was

coming on ships to Sydney enroute. from Singepore and
Hong Kong and was then reshipped to the United
States and Canada via Honolulu.

Mr. de Voogd said that one. thing that struck him
was that the more one tries to suppress oolum the

higher the price goes in the illicit traffic and the
more profitable the illicit traffic becomes, which
is an encouragement to smulgling. The old ergument
was that when one raises prices there would be com-

petition emong the treders end a better control of
the trade. It struck him that it should be realized
thet in any country when one raised prices F 6 in

Cenada, it is more difficult to suppress the illicit

trade. When prices rise, the possibility of Letting long
people interested in the trade is greater. difficult So
as opium products are high in price it is
to suppress the traffic no matter how much you
endeavor to do so.

Mr. Anslinger said that the Americans never and

allowed the sale of opium in the Philippines likely
when the Japanese moved in., it is not

that that the United States would have got the support United

which 1 t did get from the Filipinos if the opium for
States Government hed sold the Filipinos Governa generation as had been done by the British
ment in Burma.

de Woodd inquired in regard to the expe- Islands
rience Mr. of the United States in the Philinnine onium.

concerning the subpression of smoking

Mr.

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Mr. Anslinger said that there had been an
underground traffic but that it WAS no longer A
problem such 88 existed in Hong Kong. He had no
doubt that the Filipinos would have smoked'had the
United States Government permitted it. In- the Philippines most of the smokers were Chinese.
Colonel Sharman said that when detectives were
put on the Empress liners it WAS found that smoking
opium was going from Hong Kong to the Philipoines

and also to Canada but that it WAS just AS difficult
to get the opium into the Philippines 86 it was to
get it into Cenada.
Mr. May said he felt that the Dutch would go

along and suppress smoking onium if the suppression
were universal. Mr. de Voogd said that he WA'S pensonally convinced that his Government would be will-

ing to go to extreme limits through a generally

applied international arrangement for humanitarian
reasons. Mr. Anglinger remarked that one cannot
have the Four Freedoms and still sell opium.
Mr. de Voogd said that AS far 86 he could see,
all governments concerned agreed to the final object

to be reached, viz., total prohibition of opium

smoking, and that the difference. of oninion concerned only the methods to be applied to reach this
aim. As long AS onium WAS available in the Far East
in such large quantities, the Netherlands Government
has been of the opinion that the best possible way

of limiting and finally abolishing the use of opium

was a system of government control. Under this
system the use of smoking onium in the Netherlands
East Indies had been reduced in 1939 to one. half of
what it WAS in 1930. Mr. Analinger pointed outto that
many of the smoking onium addicts have turned
heroin to satisfy their addiction and that the
repregentatives of the Netherlands Government at

Geneva have reported large heroin seizures. He
stated that there had been A reduction in the number
of registered smokers but that the trade showed

that mononolies did not reduce the number of smokers. Govern-

Ae in Hong Kong, the mononoly WAS costing the the

ment money insteed of bringing money in. If.
mononoly had not existed and the money it took to

DAY for the mononoly had been given to the the police,

the nolice could probably have suppressed
smugglers.

Colonel

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Colonel Sharman said that of course China is

the key to the situation from the production standpoint and that there is no use psking Great Britain
or the Dutch to do anything until opium production
ceased in China. Mr. de ? said that international cooperation would be the solution to the prob-

lem and that the production of onium had A bearing
on the control of the mononoliea. Colonel Sharmen
pointed out that the medical needs of the world are
about 260 tons and that it had been pointed out et
Geneva that there WAS huge excess production in the

world. 6 survey mede in Chine by the United States
Government indicated that the production of opium
in China in 1937 WAR estimated at 2,200 tons. He
believed that the Chinese Government 10 now doing

A good job in the control of opium production,
sincere end that the rest of the world should not
hold back but should take adventage of this great
Professor Chamberlain said that Chine seems to be
opportunity,

Colonel Sharman said he understood thet present

American policy through military action would be to
suppress onium smoking.

Mr. Anslinger said that the answer WAS "Yes"

in the territories controlled by the Jananese; that
the same policy will Apply regardless of the territory where the American forces are in occupation.

Mr. de Voogd asked whether the Americans would

find any smoking onium in the Netherlands Indies now.
Mr. Anslinger said that he WAS quite sure that the
scorched earth policy would not apply to opium.
Mr. de Voogd also inquired whether the Japanese

are importing opium. Mr. Anslinger said that in
Burme they reduced the tax on opium SO that the

people could buy more cheeply from the Japenese de than

they had been able to do from the British. Mr.

Vooga remarked that that W& B propagenoes Mr.

Anslinger admitted that this W&S RO and that on the
part of this country the Japanese have been hammered in the press end in magazines end that the
Japanese counter almost every month. He said that

opinion in the United States was crystallizing

against the ovium monopolies and he read the following excerpt from a letter from an American who lived
in Hong Kong just before the war:
Hong

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"Hong Kong WAR founded on and, indirectly

at least, WAS lost due to traffic, official

business for profit, based on Opium and other
narcotics. Under the enforcément of the Harrison Narcotic Act, our Treasury Department

cleaned un illicit traffic in narcotics in

America. What has our State Department done

to limit the onium trade AS a means of colonial
exploitation in Hong Kong,
"Under the status quo, providing the American
Nevy should capture Hong Kong tomorrow, the official opium stores would probably be reopened by
next week.

Should the American Navy indirectly foster

the onium trade abroad when they condemn it At
home?"

Mr. Anslinger said that this letter WAR typical of
American reaction and also of Canedian reaction.

Mr. de Voogd incurred about the situation in

India. Colonel Sharman said that that situation
will have to be faced. Mr. Anslinger stated that
about the first of this year R seizure of Indian
opium in the illicit traffic in the United States
WAS made for the first time; that in India the annuel
consumption of opium 16 about 500 tons, or twice the
needs of the entire world for medical and scientific
purposes.

Colonel Sharman said that since the outbreak of

an Empress boat came to Vancouver and the Chinese
crew members went ashore. Chinetown W86 flooded and

war

it cost the Canadian Government about 33,000 to round

up the onium "and - Prosecute the Chinese traffickers the in

the opium 80 landed. It WAS found that some of

opium was Irenian-and some had Singenore markings;
in fact, it came from all over the world. The opium. crew
members invested all their available money in
Colonel Sharman said that Cenada has the spme problem

at Helifex, where boats with part Oriental crews

arrive, and that there are still opportunities to

buy opium all over the world.

Mr. May said that he thought that he WAS correct is
thinking that so far 88 the present problem and

in the British in the British Isles the

Dutch concerned in Eurone are onposed to smoking onium monopolies.
Mr.

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Mr. Mey said that there WAB A colonial problem
and A health problem and that the problem had it's
financial aspect's also. It. seemed to him that when

the political question' enters, the United Nations

are in agreement upon enough b1g probleme that they
should not disagree on the opium problem. He believed

that all friction could be ironed out

Mr. Watt said that he could not Ray what the
viewnoint of his Government would be in the present
situation. Mr. May said thet this meeting WAA tnf-ormal, that one could speak without binding himself
or his Government. Mr. Watt said that he personally
had no technical knowledge. of thin subject and was
not in 8 position, therefore, to give detailed informetion about Austrelian onium policy of the kind

which could be sunplied by technical officers. He

would, however, attempt to estimate the reactions
of Australians 88 E whole to the matters rained in

discussion and comment upon some political Aspects

of the problem. Australians, of course, Wholeheartedly
supported efforts made to reduce the evils of opium
smoking. They sunnorted this policy on humanitaria
grounds. If traffic in opium or onium smoking in
Australia were increased for any reason, And this
became known to the public; public oninion would
undoubtedly press for its suppression. Australia
had cooperated in the international regulation of
drugs by ratifying certain international conventions,
and he hed no doubt that the edministrative authorities in Australia would coonerate with such authorities in other countries regarding seizure of opium So

and other means to suppress the illidit traffic.
far as the subnression of opium smoking outside

Australia in other areas of the Southwestern Pacific
and the FAT Enst WAR concerned, however, he) doubted

whether Australia had A definite policy as yet.

This WB G not unnatural, because the Government was
concentrating on problema connected with the DOB

sible invasion of Austrolie by the Janenese rather.
than upon problema which would erise when Australians
with other United Netion forces invaded territories
now occupied by the Jananese, Thus he did:not think
that Australia hed at present any definite view on
the question whether onium smoking could be Abolished
in some areas outside Australia without substantial
economic consequence which other countries might
wish to avoid. A step in formulating such an Australian
policy had, however, been taken 88 the Australian
Legation

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Legation had forwarded to Australia the substance
of the informal discussion'which took place at the
meeting held on January 13, 1943. So far no reaction from Australia had been received but the matter

could taken un again after this meeting when the
results of the discussion were sent to Australia.
Mr. Watt said that on the political side he had
little doubt that the Australian Government would
not wish to have two conflicting policies put into

force by troops collaborating in the same occupied
area or even in Areas alongside one another. Just
what policy the Australian Government would support
he WAB not in A position to BAY, but he felt sure
they would desire to ACE one policy in force rather
than two conflicting policies. Summing up hie
remarks, Mr. Watt said that on the humaniterian side
Australia undoubtedly supported efforts to minimise
or extinguish opium smoking and WAR not likely to
tolerate an increase in Australie; ehe had oollaborated in certain international 'action through
international conventions; A8 regards the economic
effects of Abolishing Government mononolies in Areas

outside Australia, he did not think the Australian

Government had yet considered the problem thoroughly

or reached a conclusion. Informal discussions such
as these reported to Australia would provide A means
of bringing the importance of the subject under the
Government's attention.

Professor Chamberlain commented that the

Australians have vigorous support at home. Mr.
Anelinger aeid that he had observed A substantial

traffic developing in Australia before the war.
Mr. Analinger replied that it WAS going to Australia

Mr. Watt inquired whether this WAS going or coming.
and. coming from Australia. There WAS a two-way

traffic which the Australian nolice promptly SUDwhich the action of the Australian authorities W&G
based. There WAS also addiction in Australia in
the last few years. In Sydney there WAS a substantial opium traffic in some of the restaurants used
pressed. The Americans had given the evidence on

86 places of distribution.

Colonel Sharman said that it hed been found by
experience that one way of making sure that the

traffic is controlled 16 to increase the penalties.

The treffickers then prefer torgo elsewhere. The

Canadians had that exemplified when marihuana became
a serious menace. Men came uo from New York and sold
marihuana

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marihuana cigarettes At 40 cents each. The courts
at that time did not know anything About the drug.
Colonel Sharman said that he had an article in
regard to marihuana multigranhed and sent to the
courts. Subsequently A CASE came up involving the
smuggling of marihuena into Caneda by the boatswain
of A Canadian liner and the judge gave the offender

Your years. The overseas traffic stopped. That is
one way to keep the traffic away, he said.

Mr. Anslinger corroborated Colonel Sharman's
remarks. He queried whether that WAB not the weakness in the Far East where the opium monopolies

exist and penaltics are 80 low. Mr. de Voogd said
that that WAB true, he sunnosed.

Mr. Watt said that he might add one point. The
Australian policy 16 not clear here but the Australian

Foreign Minister, Dr. H. V. Evatt, will be here in 8
few weeks and if the interested personal here cared
to discuss this matter with him, it would probably

be possible to arrange it. The matter would undoubtedly be brought to his notice by the Legation during
hie stay in Washington. Of course he would have to
take the problem back with him and consider it. Mr.
Mey inquired whether Dr. Evatt would Attend EL meet-

ing of the Pacific War Council in Washington. Mr.
Watt paid that Dr. Evatt would undoubtedly attend
the Pacific War Council meetings but it was very

unlikely he would feel justified in raising this
particular matter, in view of other urgent and

important problems on which he would feel bound to
concentrate, Dr. Evatt's visit, however, would pro- the
vide an onnortunity for informal discussions of
opium problem. Mr. Anslinger suggested that the

Foreign Minister 1,-ht start discussions .in Australia
among neonle who must consider the policy to be nur- to
Bued. He belloved that Dr. Evatt would be lad
learn that Cenada and the United States have Baid a clear- that

cut policy on this metter. Colonel Sharmen interpreted to
mean that Canada and the United States had 8

Mr. Analinger's remerks should not be Joint
policy. He added that while the views of Mr. to

Analinger and himself coincided in relation all onium not the

of handling end seizing

decirability required for medicinal nurnoses, the Cenadian policy He

had not 86 yet been formulated nor Fircussed.

said that Dr. Evatt is probably the first Foreign

Minister

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Minister who will run into the situation envisaged

by today's discussion.
Mr. Anslinger inquired of Mr. King whether he
had any remarks to make. Mr. King that he
feared that he WAS not familiar with the problem;

that he took An intérest in it in a ereral way but

did not.know anything About what the British Government 16 thinking or doing about it; that he had no
technical knowledge.

Mr. de Voogd seid that he too had no information
as to the planned future policy of the Metherlands
Government in this reapect and that he did not know
what has been done since the occuration of the
Netherlands Eest Indies.

Mr. Anslinger paid that.he could visualize the
problem of troons going into Dutch territory.
Mr. May said that Lord Halifax is informed on
the subject; that Mrs.
had talked with him
andMoorhead
had also written
inquired whether Mr.

it. several Mr. years Anslinger ago question. to King him would about

make A report to the Ambassador on the Mr.

King responded that he would do 80.

Professor Chamberlain commented that Lord Halifax Mr.

would know the situation in India pretty well. ten
May seid that it might be well if Mr: Eden had said
minutes to think about the question. Mr. King ub.
that Mr. Eden's program WAS pretty well filled

Mr. Anslinger spid that there are numerous jourin this country who have taken an interest in

nalists problem and who will write articles MAGAin zines this with the idea of throwing it in with other
world problems.

Mey sald that many people PSK 11 the the British opium

Mr. the greatest offenders AS regards British

are not that he always replies that the control
traffic; the ton of the lift PF regards alwaye of has

stand et medicinal purposes but that he Mr.
drugs for that they do operate onium mononolies. of
to commented that that in the
all people
over the
world.
Mr. May
and
Anglinger
Admit
caid attitude
that
lenves no
describes the American viewnoint minds.

usually it to hi eudience to make un their own

Professor

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Professor Chamberlain AAId that Ambassador

Winant, who was head of the International Labor
Organization, knew about the onium problem 86 that'
orgenization had drawn un A resolution several years
ago in which it was stated that the sale of opium
must be suppreaked. Colonel Sharman said that at
the meeting of the Labor Assembly in Geneva this
question we 8 threshed out for A week And that Mr.
Winant must have a complete. knowledge of it. The
countries wanted to suppress the opfum monopolies.

The resolution WAB passed and WAR mandatory. The
Opium Advisory Committee could not have premered A

better one. Mr. May GR1₫ that the Labor Organiza-

tion investigated conditions in MAleye, the Netherlands Indies et cetera. There WAS A report to the
Chinese Labor Office on working conditions in the

mines and on rubber plantations.

Mr. May inquired whether the cuestion under discussion could be further explored. Mr. Anslinger
said that avenues of approach could be explored and

that the matter could be brought to the attention of
the Australian Foreign Minister. Mr. de Vooga said
that he would present A report to the Embassy and
that it would 20 to London. It WAS subgested that

Mr. Delgorge could come over And work further on this
problem. has a position in the Colonial Affairs
Department in London. He is the only opium expert
which the Netherlands Government hAs At present

available. Mr. Anslinger said that Van Blokland WAB
also in attendance at the meetings of the Onium Advis-

ory Committee at Geneva.

Mr. May reminded the gathering that the Opium
Research Committee of the Foreign Policy Association

is merely acting 88 sponsor for these informal discussions.

Professor Chamberlain said that the world has

an effective method of control now but that it is
dependent upon the League of Nations. Before a
peace treaty 18 arranged it will be necessary to
consider questions relating to nercotion.

Mr. King said that he WAS aware that the PermsCentral Opium Board had a meeting in London and

nent that apperently the Sritish Government W&G inf ormed

of what VAS going on.

Mr.

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Mr. Watt inquired whether the Canadian. and

American policies had been explained*as clearly in

London PS had been done here this morning. Mr. May
BRIG thet whatever d16duseions:there had been in
London were outside the formal meetings and had not
been on what should be done in. CASE an occupation,

but, with reference to the opium smoking question,
the discussion had been, informally, on the possible
future of monopoly systems. In the United Nations
Conference obium might be taken un aeva sevarate
problem.

Mr. Anslinger said that in North Africa the oommand might shift from the Americansito the British
and that in the Far East the occupation forces will
shift around too. He did not want A situation to
arise in which the Australians would RAY that obium
WAS in and the Americans would say it WAS out.

Colonel Sharman said that outside of himself
nobody, far AS he WAS aware, had discussed or
indeed had knowledge of the American policy referred
to today, and it would be incorrect to BRY that
there WAS any Canadian policy in relation thereto,
Although Canada's position in past years in relation
to opium control WAS well known.

Mr. May remarked that the two Americans most

familiar with the subject are Mr. Anslinger and Mr.

Morlock,

At this point the meeting adjourned.

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July 23, 1943.
MEMORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY:

The Netherlands Government has submitted a proposal to

the State Department and to the Treasury that the Netherlands
Government be permitted to pledge privately owned Netherlands

assets in this country for the purpose of securing a loan of

$300 million from this Government to be used to finance postwar rehabilitation and reconstruction in the Netherlands.
Certain additional sums may also be requested to cover current
budgetary expenses.

In order to permit the pledging by the Netherlands Government of privately owned Netherlands assets in this country as
collateral, the adoption of one of the following measures would
be necessary:

(a) Recognition by this Government of the validity of the
Netherlands vesting decree.

(b) Issuing directive licenses compelling the transfer of
the assets to the Netherlands Government.

(c) Vesting the assets in the A.P.C., to be held by him
as collateral.
The State Department does not want to recognize the validity
of the Netherlands vesting decree but is considering proposing
that the funds be vested and held in custody subject to agreements entered into between the State Department and the Netherlands Government.

It is our view that the proposals should be rejected by the
Treasury for the following reasons:
1. The Netherlands Government (according to its own memorandum) already holds enormous resources in the form of gold,
dollar balances, and foreign exchange amounting in all to more
than $1,050 million, of which more than $900 million is in the of

form of gold and dollars. These funds are held in the name

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-2the Governments of the Netherlands, the Netherlands East Indies,
the Netherlands West Indies and Surinam, and the central banks

and other official agencies of these areas. This is in addition
to the privately owned Netherlands assets held in this country.

In view of the fact that the total budgeted expenditures
of the Netherlands Government for 1943 - including military and

naval expenditures - total only $65 million, it is obvious that

these resources are, to say the least, more than adequate for
all of the needs of the Netherlands Government without touching
the privately held funds in this country of Netherlands nationals.
It has been said by the Netherlands Government that the gold

and dollar assets of the Central Banks are not available for use
by the Netherlands Government because they are held for reserve

purposes. It should be noted that the British and other Governments have not hesitated to use the resources of their central
banks for war purposes. Clearly the funds of official govern-

ment institutions should be tapped by the Netherlands Government

before calling on us to deliver to them the assets of private

nationals of the Netherlands.

Moreover, the credit of the Netherlands Government is such

that she would have no difficulty in placing orders for post-war
delivery with only a small down payment, particularly if she is
willing to subject such orders to post-war priority requirements.
2. For this Government to lend $300 million to the

Netherlands Government would require the borrowing by the Treasury

of an approximately equal amount. It would be difficult from the
popular point of view for the Treasury to justify to buyers of

War Savings Bonds the use of their savings to provide a Government
holding the enormous assets of the Netherlands with additional

funds for expenditure in the post-war period.

3. The vesting of assets in this country of Netherlands

nationals would generally be regarded as the beginning of a

process of vesting all blocked balances and securities. Un-

doubtedly, some banks would feel that such prospective action

impairs their reserve position and this in turn would affect
their attitude toward bond subscriptions. Further, such action

would involve the Treasury in much otherwise avoidable litigation
with American creditors as well as Netherlands nationals. The

371

-3Treasury ought not to exercise its extraordinary powers on such
a matter unless the action contributes directly to the war
effort, which clearly the Netherlands proposal does not do.

4. The vesting of these assets at this time would require

a large and unjustified expenditure in time and manpower on
the part of this Government. When a reconstituted Netherlands
Government has been established in the Netherlands it will have

full power to enforce its own decrees and will be able at that
time to obtain effective control over the dollar and other
foreign exchange assets of its nationals with comparative ease.
The undesirability of using our limited manpower resources to
vest these assets at this time is further increased by the fact

that the Netherlands Government, according to its own statement,
desires these funds for its postwar reconstruction program.

On the whole, it appears to us that the proposal made by the
Netherlands Government is not for the purpose of obtaining funds,
of which they have plenty, but rather of strengthening the

position of the present government in exile by giving it control

over the enormous assets held in this country by private
Netherlands citizens.

hist
HOW
Approved:

, 1943.

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JUL 23 1943

Excellency

This is to thank you for your letter of July 14,

1943 enclosing a communication for me from Mr. H.
Strawburger, the Polish Minister of Finance in London,
England.

I am enclosing herewith a letter to Mr. Strasburger
that you may forward it to him.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) H. Mergenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

His Resellency, Michal Kwapiszerski4

Minister Plenipetentiary,
The Polish Babasay,

2640 - 16th Street, N. W.,
Washington, D. C.

Enclosure,

HH:
7/22/43

File ret. to White's office.
Photo of incoming and copy
of reply in Diary.

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JUL 23 1943

Excellencys

This is to thank you for your letter of July 1, 1943

enclosing the interesting nemorandum on "Monetary Problems

in Poland". I can assure you that careful consideration
will be given to the views set forth in the memorandum. I
would appreciate it if you would keep me informed of new
developments as they are brought to your attention.

very truly yours,
(Signed) H. Mergenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.

His Excellency, Henryk Strasburger,
The Minister of Finance,
Republic of Poland,
London, England

File to White's office.
Photo. of imconing ltr.

and enclosures in Diary.

T:Drl
22/43

POLISH EMBASSY
WASHINGTON
2040-169 STREET, N.W.

July 14, 1943.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I take pleasure in sending
you enclosed herewith, a letter
addressed to you by the Polish Minister
of Finance in London, England.
Please accept, dear Mr.

Secretary, the assurances of my highest
consideration.
Encl.
The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr. ,

Secretary of the Treasury.

H. STRASBURGER LL.D.
MINISTER SKARBU

STRATTON HOUSE,

-

STRATTON STREET,

OLISH MINISTER OF FINANCE

LONDON, w. 1.
GROSVENOR 4251.

London, 1st July, 1943.

7486/43/5-15

Excellency,

In reply to your letter of 16th April 1943,
I have the pleasure in sending you a memorandum
concerning monetary problems in Poland.

We have expressed in the conclusion of
this memorandum our views on the dollar exchange rate

that might be set for zloty after the liberation of my
country with the help of American Armed Forces.

Very truly yours,
MINISTER OF FINANCE

1 enc.

Henryle strackenging
His Excellency, Henry J.Morgenthau jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
United States of America,
WASHINGTON , U.S.A.

iotlv confidential

18th June 1943,

KONETARY PROBLEMS IN POLARD
I. AND CURRENCY CIRCULA IOH

It is estimated that at the time when the Polish Government

Poland, the currency circulation amounted to a total of zlot
million, of which 3.700 million were in Bank of Poland notes,
about 500 million in token coins.
This total was much higher than the average level of circula
on in the years preceding the war. The circulation rose above its
emal Level from the moment when the outbreak of the war began to
am imminent and the population withdrew a part of their bank

accounts, preferring to have cash in hand.
At the end of 1938 the circulation of the Bank of Poland

notes amounted to 1.406 million zloty, and the circulation of silver

a token coins to 460 million zloty. On July 31st 1939 note circuTation was 1.883 million zloty and token coins circulation 500 million

loty.
The currency circulation in Poland under occupation must be

reviewed separately for various districts.
First of all, the Ribbentrop-Holotov agreement divided Poland into two parts, one being under German, another under Russian
coupation.

The western part of the German-occupied territory has been

corporated into the Reich while from the remaining part a separate
Intrative unit, so-called General Gouvernement, has been formed.
In consequence of the Russo-German war the part of Poland preLously occupied by the Russians, has been taken over by the Germans;

ree provinces of Easter Galicia have been added to the General
Gouvernement, while the 3ialystok district has formed a separate unit,
afterwards "incorporated" into the Reich. Moreover, the northern
part of Poland's eastern territory has been amalgamated with the
"Reichskommissariat Ostland", and the southern part with the "ReichskommissariatUkraine".
We enolose an administrative map of Poland under German

-2Below we examine the curroney situation in each of those

ets separately.
A. "INCORPORATED" TERRITORIES. When the German armies B)

land the rate of exchange between the zloty and the Reichema
occupied territories was fixed by the German High Command at
8

= 1 Reichsmark and the Reichsnark was introduced Jointly we

al tender the zloty.
The Reichskreditkassen, temporarily opened in Poland, were
ged into branches of the Reichabank na early as November 1st 1939

the part of western Poland which had been "incorporated" into the
oh. About the same date the notes of the Bank of Poland and the
hskreditkassenscheine were withdrawn from circulation in that
and exchanged for the Reich currency.
The population of the western "incorporated" provinces amount

before the war to some 10.6 million people, i.e. about 30% of the
total pre-war population of Poland. The area covers some 35.4 thousand sq. miles.

Moreover, as a result of the Russo-German war, a part of nor-

hern Poland, namely the district of Bialystok, covering about 11,1
tousand sg siles and with a pre-war population of about 1.6 million
Inshan alto been "incorporated" into the Reich.
Thus the total of the pre-war population of the "incorporated
olish provinces amounted to about 12.2 million people, and the area
46.5 thousand sq. miles.

It is estimated, that about 1 billion zloty have been exchan
d into the currency of the Reich in the western "incorporated" areas
e. excluding the province of Binlystok/ The monetary circulation
these territories to-day is undoubtedly higher than would be the
base if we were to compute it by merely substituting Reichsmarks for

lotys at the rate of one mark for two zlotys.
One should remember that a part of the Polish population was

evacuated from these districts before the advance of the German Kr
mies and that they took their money with them, 80 that the amount
lotys available for exchange into Reichamarks was already lower

3

the pre-war circulation there. Moreover, the purchasing power
the zloty as compared with that of the Reichsmark was by no means

ressed by the fixed exchange rate 2 zloty for 1 Reichsmark, being
her near the ratio 1 zloty - 1 Reichsmark, Thus after the exchange
made there undoubtedly arose an acute scarcity of purchasing DOin the hands of the population, and it was necessary to increase
circulation there. Then a considerable number of German military,

rty and civil service men alno arrived in these territories bringing
heir money with them. Finally, the incorporation with the German
Reich, in which the money circulation per head was such higher than

in Poland, had its influence in ruising the circulation in Polish
"incorporated" territories, and later the usual war-time rise of circulation followed /in the Reich the note circulation between the end
$ 1939 and the end of 1942 was more than doubled/

Taking all these factors into can ideration we come to the

conclusion that at the end of 1942 the note circulation in Polish
"incorporated" areas could be rou iilly estimated as somewhere between

1,5 and 2 billion Reichmarks, i.e. between the equivalent of 3 and

4 billion of occupation zloty.
B. GENERAL COUT REMENT. In the General Gouvernement the

Reichskreditkassen were closed on April 8th 1940, and reglaced
the "3AM OF ISSUE IN POLL'D" which was created by the occupati

authorities.
The first operation of the new Bank HGP the exchan e on' the

Bank of Polard rotes and sone amount of Peichs genechefer
into the new zloty notes.
When this exchange WAS concluded it WAS stated

tal of the Brink of Coland -10% T ich found Ite W :
OF TOOTE I:: COLUMO" amounted P.A al. 1.950. 00.00.-

This sum WILS congosed of two arts. The first art consigned

of the zloty notes Which he week 1.9 the
through the exchange operation in the Siged" areas.

of

tal of about 950. 000.000. zloty VILLED desocited 1th the New 15.11

Issue in Poland" by the German minorities. The second part consis-

Bank of Poland notes handed over for exchange by

the General Gouvornement, and its total amounted
Noty

As the "Bank of Issue in Poland" only credited the GH

of the German authorities with the first sum the int
are HOW Bank reached only a Bota: about 63309

It is roughly estimated that about 700.000.000, zloty
Land notes in the territories "incorborated" with the Reich
be General Gouvernement were not presented by the poyulation

age. It may be mentioned here at once that a further 1 billi
remained in the hands of the population which inhabited the

land occupied by Russia. The matter is discussed further in
ow.

The amount of the bank-notes issued by the new Bank was main

d at approximately the seme-level up to the autumn of 1940. At
Time the German authori ties did not draw on the current account
oned above, and did not increase the circulation by any payments

out of it. It is obvious that during this period the German aubies were anxious to increase the confidence of the population
16 new currency

The last months of 1940 and the first half of 1941 brought,

or, a rise in the amount of notes issued, due to the fact, that
LOODS massed in the Gen ral Gouvernement before the outbreak

36 Russo-Germen war, were paid in occupation zloty. In 1942

was a new sharp rise in note circulation, especially in the se
half of the year.
The soanty information available about the verious denomina-

a in circulation shows, as compared with pre-wer figures, an
rent deoline in 500 and 100-zloty notes, and a great increase
50 and 20-zloty notes, while new denominations of 10, 5, 2, and

notes have been issued in place of the token of these
ominations

The note circulation of the "Bank of Issue in Polena" amo

Tellon sloty in Janu FY 1941, to 1.5 billion zloty An

5

to 2 billion cloty on November 15th 1911, to 2.4 billion zloty
arch 20th 1947, 107 to about 4.2 billion cloty at the and of 1942
coins are also in circulation in the General Gouvernement,
The current accounts with the "Bank of Issue in Poland" amoun

1.2 billion lot. on October 15th 1941, to 1,5 billion zlot on
20th 1942, and to 1,2 billion sloty at the end of 1942.
The withdrawn From the Bank 01 Issue by the occupying
horities amonated to aloty 2,1 billion on October 15th 1941, to

ty 2.8 billion on March 20th 1948, and to cloty 4.5 billion at
e and of 1942 /the balance, if any, remining on the occupation au-

hritten secount with the if Issue in Coland, to be subtracted.
t may possible amount to a few humired million rloty/.

As n reallt of the war three Colish provinces
were added to the Canaral Couvernenent in 1911, namely those of Low
Stenislew6⑉ and memocol. The total of Saviet roubles exchanged for

Hey zlo+ notos in thone three provinces amounted to only 94 million

loty, the sate 01 exchunce boing fixed at 1 zloty = 5 roubles.

The 02 tion QT the Senoral including the

newly incorporated 3 provinces of Castern Onligio amounted before the

war to about 17,1 million yeoula. The are of the General Douvernement covers and 56,5 thousand so. miles.
The budget of the Ceneral Government WILD fixed by the OCC

win authorities as follow 1. Orginary budget:
For the financial year 1940/41
1941/42
"

1.03B million zloty

1.766
2.701

-

1942/47

11

i Extroord budget:

278 million zloty

-

714
477

"

"
'I

For the financial year 1940/41 1941/42
1942/43

Whan concidering these figures one should hear in mind that

the bill at of the with 10 blund in the financial year 1938/39 amounted
Bri

C. OLISH 2.221 ORDER About 1 billion rloty had
been left in hands of the population inhebiting the Polish territo.
ries which, up to June 1.941, were occupied by Russia. Immediately

the occuration of the country the Pussian authorities esto 11A rate of exchange which had no relation whinever to the 12ing power or the two currencies, namely 1 slots .1 Rouble. Daper
declared the gloty valueless, without any exolten A of
roubles being main.

As cleany mentioned letter the amaton at she U.S.A.M. loft the
atry, the German authorities incorporated the rovinees 01 Lwow,

canislawow and Ternopol to the General Collv ensment, e POAndekof Biolystok has been "incorporated into he Retorn

A part of Polish pentain territors wen V the
erman authorities with the "Refchskommisserist Ukraine" A 10%

fastonsbrunk in Ukusina" with set up, with temporary he dou ters

Rowne, and this Bridge 1.5 issuin will new 0 alled ICA vinea
Kerboyaneo" is "gulmantness the land seined by the Germans.

The population or the 2013 in of Mr.
dine" amounted before the 10721 on ,P million people, the ores being

out 23,4 thousand so. nilen!

Another part of Polish territory. (th 2 320-312
hletion of about 2,8 million eople and en area De about 23, B thate

and so. miles, was am 1remeted with the Options
which Reichskreditknusenscheine are lenal tenden, the issue of a
"Ostlandmark" being under consideration.
There in no information available concerning the note circle

ion in those two districts. It MAY he very assinated 15
the enuivulent 0 1 billion occupation zloty at the end of 1972
ines
SUBUARY

Circulation
other end
Cos 1942

Pre-mar

population
in

in

thousands

millions

1. In the Polich

"incorport ted" into the
Reich, the circulation was

billion 1.

somewhere between 1,5 and 2

the enuivient of between

47611-

130m Elub

dog

the Central Couverneant the airculation WITH

4.2 Willion sloty

17.1

the Johinh tampi orien
altransted with the Reicha-

TO Assarist Tenaire and the

bichstone Ontloud,

be circul: Ever at -ht by ve-

roughty
10
million Ra.. 1.00 the

quivalent 02 about
Bank or Folma

presented for email

1 billion zloty 6.0
billion claty

47.5

-

Thus the total note air option 1:19 Poland per ultimo 1942

ht be roughly estimate! 48 the equivalent of between 8 to 9 billi
ty, and, together wth the Bank of 20 land notes not presented for
erchange, AS between 10 to 11 billion zloty.
II. DATE DEPOSIT

On December 31st 1938 the tota2 amount of bank deposits /in-

cluding the with the Track of amounted to 3.956
million cloty. In torritories acetyied by the Dermans all accounts

were blooking to - out even when the influx
if new deposito increased their ensh reserve. In the General Souverement the accumation authorities have authorised the reduel sayingout of pre-war bank Projesits, provided the cash for those payments

as obtained through the 'inuidation of ;re-wa" assets; it is repor-

ted that private brite have yoid 01: hout 3 of pre-wer devosits.
No news 4 available bout the amoun of new deposits. How-

or, in view of the reat lightding of the mone market, in the
low rate of interest or the new 10103177, it 122 be S'1 josed that
their amount in considerable. I:: 1949 the rate of Interest for dem 11

deposits was 1, with before the war it was 3,

2 with

III. 201
In the territories "incorporated" into the Retch the pur-

chastre no through the whole
territory contained within the commisitrutive frontiers of the Reich.
As for as the General Gouvernement is cincernod, we are fa-

ced with one great difficulty, namely that the information evailab-

8

efers mainly to the town ot Wirsaw and Lives no Idea whatever

the conditions preveiling in provincial towns and even less ao
1 townships and willages. For thin reason the deductions from
available cannot be rememolised. Here are some figures:
In 1942 the indez of noninal wites for municipal manual wor
kers in Warsow WILL 133F of pre-war wages. Of Course these wa

ges varied corstierably from Frede to trade. The wage-level

is strictly controlled.
2/

The prices for arricultural food-stuffs paid out to the producers when goods are requisitioned /Unfassung/ was fixed for the
season 1942/43 es follows /prices per quintal/
- 25 sloty, ns compared with the average price of
Rye
15,5 cloty quoted at the beginning of 1939 at
the Formal corn exchange.

- 34 zloty, as compared with the average price of

Wheat

18,5 cloty quoted in 1939 as above.

- 24 zloty, as compared with the average price of

Onts

Barley

14,9 zloty quoted in 1939 03 above.
25 sloty, US compared with 17 zloty-quoted in

-

1939 118 above.

Potatoes

-

8-9 aloty, according to the time of delivery,
compared with 3.25 zisty quoted at the end of
1938 at the Pornor cogn exchange.

3

The prices of rationed goods sold to the public were as follows /per 1 k s/:
Rye Bread - 0.45 - 0.55 zloty, AS comparedApril
with1939
0.30 zloty in
with 1.0 zloby in
2.40
"

Sugar

Abril 1939

-

tilk

-

Butter

-

with 0.27 zloty in

0.52
6.00

April 1939

11

with 4.24 zloty in
Aur 1939

The quality of the bread now is much lower than before the
we.

9

w There are some rowh statistics Living the prices 0 foodstuffs in the black market in Narsew. The following index 75
ving an iden of the variation of prices of the most Import
foodstuffs, is quoted:
hly agerage 1939 - 100
November 1940
- 564
aber 1939
- 313
February 1941
- 710
1940
- 903
May 1941
- 1989
ust 1940
- 561
August 1941
1903
November 1941

- 2150

The fluctuation in prices of verious articles is very concirable, and it devends on the amount of sunplies reaching the black

rket. These supplier are extremely irregular, due to the changes

in severity of the requisitions, and to the variable decree of terror
sed in procecuting the bleck market. According to unofficic1 inforation the price of bread in the black market reached in June 1941 22

loty per one FC., later in August 1941 it tell to 7 slate ter 1
and in December 1942 was about 22 zloty 102 1 KO 2hore A AS IL shary

Mac in black market prices in the first there non&ha of 1943.
It should perhaps be mentioned that the role played by the
Leck market in Poland is greater than in CURC of the other occuyie

contries. This is une to the feet that official food rations ONO excomely small According to Studres computed by the League of
Martime Retiening and Consumption, 1942/ "he official PATI

A

ormal consumor seuresents 97 colories / CONSUM ion unfly boi
aunl to 1370 colorion/.

5/ Below are some quotations of the APRIL Stock the
end of 1942, quotations n the end of 1936 beir LTD in

ank of Color giores 19 137.00/ 2007
arass 137 /7... 2 727. migh Worner

an 5 in 21 /05/ ..t the

was e new share rice in on dit

dip-

Ne have seen in chapter I of 1: 22 ⑆
culation in Poland at the and o 1942 2014 treaty 2 ultillo of the
re-war circulation, having been, roughly estimating, about CO times

- 10 reat as at the end of 1938. Inflation was thus already on the
the controlled prices of a ricultural foodsturfs in General
ement were generally speaking, nearly doubled as compared with
corresponding pre-war prices. The budget of the General Gouvert

t has increased rapidly.
But, owing to a very strict rationing system and severe pric
and wage control backed by terror, there is no physical yossibili
in Poland of using the available liquid assets, and the amount of
ih needed for the current expenditure of the population is limited.
no business enterprises cannot use their cash and deposits either
create stocks of rew materials, or to pay higher dividends, or to
ise wages, or to embark upon new fields of production. The money

mast mostly lie idle. It is a case of a typical potential inflation.
The information has reached us that, in order to sterilize a
art of the purchasing power in hands of the population of the General
gouvernement, the occupation authorities are considering the possibi-

lity of ordering the obligatory payment of a part of note circulation
& higher denominations/ into special blocked brank accounts.

If there is any relaxation in the methods and efficiency of
The oppressive German machine, a provensity to spend the available

mail surplus will undoubtedly change the potential into real inflation.
As soon as the Germen occupation comes to en end, the vio-

tent propensity to spend will show itself in a general run on goods
both on the part of business firms and of private persons. In orier to
prevent the potential becoming real inflation various controls will
have to be preserved, and taxation will have to be maintained at a
gh level.
But the only fundamental remedy will consist of securing a suf
ficient and regular supply of goods, and organising the influx of
necessary foodstuffs and - raw materials as quickly 83 possible after
the end of the German occupation, thus rendering them to stabilise
prices and wages and to ostablish an equilibrium between them and the
purchasing power in the hands of the population.

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IV. CURRENCY PROBLEMS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WARM

The first task will be the unification of the currency
replacement of the various currencies now in circulation fr
by a new zloty note. There is now a general lack of confide
the German or occupation currencies, and one must expect that

untion will become even worse, so that even a wholesale repuds
the occupation currencies might be expected, The best way out
an immediate exchange of the occupation currencies for the new

noy. Should there be any difficulties in supplying new bank-notes
en, as a temporary measure for a very short period, one could over
tamp the bank-notes now in circulation. This period would have to
be very short - a few weeks or a few months at the most. Otherwise
brauds may take place, which could be particularly dangerous in the
treas where the Reichsmark is in circulation and where marks from the
eich sould h be imported wholesale with forged overprints.

r A principle to be observed is that the bank-notes of the
ank of Poland, issued before 1939, and hoarded by the population
aannot in any case be treated less favourably than any of the occupaion currencies.
Foreseeing the need for introducing a uniform currency by exhanging the various occupation currencies now circulating in Poland
nto one new currency this being a necessary pre-requisite for estabishing any rates of exchange, the Bank of Pland has prepared new

loty bank-notes printed in Gr. Britain and U.S.A. in the following
denominations:
Denomination

Value in Millions
of zloty

Number of notes

in millions

zloty

1.500
1.000
2.000

3

500
100

10
40

50
20

10

40

800
100

10

200

40

80

40

40

5

2

40
1

Total

5.720

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V.

RATE OF EXCHANGE

1. Under the circumstances existing in Poland and described
this memorandum it is impossible to fix now any appropriate rate
exchange between the occupation currencies in Poland and the new

oty notes, as we do not know how for the process of inflation and
e depreciation of currencies in Poland will be carried on before the

stilities. end. If this depreciation is very considerable, then the
tio of exchange will have to be several occupation cloty to one new

Loty - a ratio which it would be too early to determine now.
The exchange of other occuration currencies for the new zloty

should take place at a rate corresponding to the ratio between the
level of weres end prices in the respective areas of circulation of
those currencies and the level of wages and prices in the General Governement.

2. The fixing of the rate of exchange of the new zloty ourrenoy in relation to the dollar and to other currencies should be
made on the principle of purchasing power perify. It is impossible to
foresee now at what level wages and prices are likely to gettle in
Poland after the liberation of the country and therefore 10 is premature to decide what will be the parity of the new cloty. An we pointed
out in the lest paragraph of chapter III, the level of wares and prices
in Poland after the end of hostilities will great2 depend on the re-

ief supplies, i.e. on the role they will play in bringing into harmomy the amount of goods available and the amount of purchasing power

in the hands of the population.

The final perity will be fixed in accordance with the princi
le of purchasing power parities but the provisional p "ity should be
a close as possible to the definite one in order to avoid future disturbances.

It is thus premature to determine now what the appropriate

provisional dollar exchange rate for 61045 should transfer polord is
liberated from Axis occupation.

3. If the use of the occupation cloty currency /or its substitute prepared beforehand/ for American Armed Forces liberating Po-

- 13 core GAC new "Loty currency starts to circulate there, was to

agon considered to be impracticable - the best solution in our
ose, which however must not be the legal tender in the U.S.A. The

of exchange of this special dollar currency for currencies ciring now in Poland, and especially for the occupation zloty,
Id be determined in due time by the American and Polish Treasuries

ng in this matter in close cooperation and agreement.

17'EAST OF GREENVICH

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ADMINISTRATIVE MAP OF

POLANI D

HSU

UNDER GERMAN OCCUPATION

A

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1943

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KOLEALM
KOSLIN

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GLASTER
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CHECKANGE

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National boundaries
Boundaries of POLAND/31 August 1939 )

MARSAW
LUBLIN

Boundaries of the free city

PUZMAN

Voivodship bounderer

BABOM

New boundares created by the Germans

Capital State
Capital Moivodship

Capital Province
K

District town
Towns with over

The Creater German Reich 1940

50000 to 100000

The Creater German Reich 1943

20000 to 50000

Provinces

Districts

less than 20000
R

Railways
23

21
17"

Scale 4 000 000

25

DR LUDWIK GRODZICKI

390

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY

July 23, 1943
CONFIDENTIAL

Received this date from the Federal Reserve

Bank of New York, for the confidential information of the Secretary of the Treasury, compilation for the week ended July 21, 1943, showing
dollar disbursements out of the British Empire and

French accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York and the means by which these expenditures
were financed.

EMB

391

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

July 28, 1943.

CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary: Attention: Mr. H. D. White
I am enclosing our compilation for the week
ended July 21, 1943, showing dollar disbursements out

of the British Empire and French accounts at this bank
andthe means by which these expenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,

/s/ Robert G. Rouse
Robert G. Rouse,

Vice President.
The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.
Enclosure

COPY

Strictly

Week Ended July 21, 1943

ANALYSIS OF BRITISH AND FRENCH ACCOUNTS

(In Millions of Dollars

BANK OF FRANCE

Gov't
PERIOD

Total
Debits

First year of war (g)
War period through
December 1940

Second year of war (h)

Third year of war (1)
1942

Oct. Oct. 28
Peck 3.5
1973Dec,
Dec. kim Fab.

Peb. A- Mar
ar. L Mar.

Lpr

1.

Apr.

Lpr. 29 June
Juna

luna

2,782.3
2,203.0
1,235.6
56.1

Sept, Sept. 30
Dot 29 Deg.

11,793.2

2

46.7

96.6
30.4

30

168.6

3

87.2

3

35.3

31

28

27.0
90.4

2

30

31.6

Expenditures
(a)

605.6

1,425.6

1,792.2
904.8
37.1
27.4
35.5
13.3

20.9

17.8
12.9
16.3
74.3

official
Canadian

Account

Proceeds of
Sales of

Credits

Debits

20.9

1,166.7

20.9

1,335.8

3.4

407.4
223.1

7.7

19.0
19.3

-

-

61.1

-

-

125.0
37.2

17.1
22.7
31.2

22.4

(Official)
(b)

Gold

1,828.2

1,356.1

52,0

2,793.1
2,189.8

2,109.5
1,193.7

108.0
274.0

1,361.5
81.6
57.5
83.7

51.9
58.9
120.8

5.5

21.8

-

-

-

-

5.0

-

64.4

14.5
16.7
57.4

15.0

-

15.1

-

19.0

16.1

103.4

20.0

20.0

130.7

-

(c)

561.1

8.0

-

Credits
416.2

5.5
8.0

-

Other

3.9

20.5
12.0

0.5

-

Account

67.4

20.7

11.6

Aus=
Securities dhr
tralian

Total

Other

OFF-

in $ Funds
(d)

+35.0

10.8
- 13.2

705.4

Total
Credits

Total
Debits

866.3(f)

1,095.3(0)

+299.0

878.3
38.9
18.5

1,098.4

+220.1

8.8
4ah

1,276.8

+125.9

60.6
45.5

+25.5

10,1

-12.9

0.2

78.2
43.9
50.9
105.8
59.4
72.3
84.4

10.8
+21.5
-109.7

+33.6
+29.1
+50,4
+13.0

110.7

in $ Funds
(d)

(e)

(e)

Net Incr. (+)
or Decr. (-)

30.1
- 14.1

0,4

9.7

0.3

0.3

0.3

0.1
-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

CREDITS

Net Incr 4
or Decr (-)

BANK OF ENGLAND (BRITISH GOVERNMENT)

DEBITS
Translot to

Confidential

-

+ 99,1

3

1.0

THE 30

July
July 14
July 21

6.3

5.1
9.2
9.4

3.5
2.9

5.3
4.9

2.2

3.9
4.5

Average Weekly Excenditures Since Outbreak of War

rance (through June 19, 1940) 19.6 million

England (through June 19, 1940) $27.6 million
(June 20, 1940 to 1941
March 12, 1941) $54.9
$21.9 million
million

7.0

19.2

-

ENDED:

2.8

-

18.2
30.3

23.6(1)

6.0
-

3.0

-

18.2
11.2
24%

20.6(1)

+ 12.9
+ 13.1

2507

-

See attached sheet for footnotes.

ANALYSIS OF CANADIAN AND AUSTRALIA ACCOUNTS

GREEN

Proceeds

to

Official

Total
Debits

PERIOD

A/C

Debit

323.0

16.6

306.79

December 1940

477.2

16.6

460.6

Second year of war(b)

460.4

Third year of war (c)

525.1

First year
Lar period through

0.3

Total

Credit

Gold

For Own

Sales

A/C

For French

Net Incr

20.9

534.8

20.9

460 -4

707.4
462-0

246.2

3.4

525.5

566.3

198.6

46.3
44.9

53.6

13.2

51.5

56.5
48.2

80.8

16.6
14.4

43.9

52.5

217.1

35.1

101.2

36.2
29.0

51.6

79.9

95.8.

53.8

77.2

.(-)

Other

Credits

A/C

ARY

OLIVE

Transfers

Transfers from Official
British A/C

(+) OF

of
Others

41.0

88.5
360.0

7-2

TOTAL

Oct. 29 Dec. 2

Dec. 3- Dec. 30

44.9

56.5
48.2

-

-

-

1943
3

Feb. 4 Mar.

3

Mar Mar. 31

Apr. 1. Apr. 28

Apr. 29 a Juna

2

Juna June 30

52.5
35.1
36.2

29.0
79.9
53.8

-

-

Dec. 31 Feb.

2.9

-

40.4
34.9

-

-

-

-

-

125.0

-

32.2

66.4
41.0

-

-

-

39.6

-

-

-

Juna 30

19.9

19.9

July
July 14

115.7
168A

15.7

16.5
18.6

168.5

3.9

July 21

11.4(o)

Average Weekly Exandituras
First year of war
Second year of war
Third year of war

11.4

of war (through July 21, 1943)

6.2 million.
million,

10. million
9.2 million.

b

8
(f)

Debits

A/C

Other
Debits

181.7

31.2

3.9

27.3

230.2

14.5

43.4

1.6

57.9

72.2

16.2

40.5

107.2

7.3

OL

12.3

55.5

81.2

62.9

18.3

57.4

49.8

112.2

17.2

95.0

20.5
12.0

7.5

18.1

6.6
24.3

28.0
14.3
10.2

2.3

14.6

5.5

4.7

9.4

4.3

14.1

8.0

6.1

11.7

164.6

16.2

8.2

17.3

0.9

16.0
6.2

6.2

0.4

19.3

19.3

2.9

20.1

20.1

27.3

27.3

1.7
7.3

8.6

8.6

+7.6

11.6

11.6

43.3

0.5
0.1

0.5

BA

0.1

-2.9

5.0

2.1

39.6

10.6
15.9

16.4

15.1

6.3

21.8

19.0
20.0

+

in

50.1

7.1

+

Credits

Sales

62.6

15.9

95.8

Other

Gold
30.0

15.4

+

Total

Net Incr,
(+) or
Dec. (-)

6.1

66.1

16.5
18.6

25.0(o)

+

+

British

51.6

77.2

NEEK ENDED

+

Total

of

8.0
15.0

92.1
63.5

-

-

-

Oct. Oct. 28

46.3

-

Sept. 3- Sept. 30

Proceeds

to

official

Credits
36.1

Funds

8.7

110.7
123.9

CHEDDLE

OTHER

23.4

3.4

29

20.0

1.0
8.2

8.9

-59.6

7.8

25.0(f)

+13.6

3.0

1.0
7.0
6.0
3.0

2.8

18.1

-

-

9A

+

-

S.O.

9

9.4
11.7

2.4

17.3

-

4

+

+ ON
08

14.6

-

-

Transfers

British

COMMONISALTH BANK OF AUSTRALIA (and Australian Government)

CANADA (and Canadian Government)

OF

-

RAM

USUTTS

Committee

Week Ended July 21. 1943

(In Millions of Dollars)

16.0

1.1

01

For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23. 1941.
For monthl? breakdown see tabulations prior to October 1941
monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 12. 1942
Reflects changes in all dollar holdings payable on demand or naturing in one year.
Does not reflect transactions in short term U. S. securities.

Includes . 19.1 million labosited Mar Supplies, Ltd. and $5.0 million received
from N. Y. accounts

(a) Includes payments for account of British Ministry of Supply Mission, British Supply Board, Ministry of Supply Timber
Control, and Ministry of Shipping.
(b) Estimated figures based on transfers from the New York Agency of the Bank of Montreal, which apparently represent the
proceeds of official British sales of American securities, including those effected through direct negotiation. In addition the
to the official selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during According
early months of the war, although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be identified with any accuracy.
to data supplied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation
of our securities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million.
(c)

Includes about $85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorized banks with New York banks,
presumably reflecting the requisitioning of private dollar balances. Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
1939 apparently represent current acquisitions of proceeds of exports from the sterling area and other accruing dollar
receipts.

(d) Reflects net change in all dollar holdings payable on demand or maturing in one year.
(e) For breakdown by types of debits and credits see tabulations prior to March 10, 1943.
(f) Adjusted to eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day.
(g) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
(h) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
(1) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 14, 1942.

(j) Includes: 10.0 million to DO help for the credit or the U. S. armad forces abroad ($15.0 million of this amount was for the

U. 3. and 1.0 Million for the U. 3. lavy.

Army $2.4 million apparently representing current and accumulated acilar proceeds 01 storling area services and merchandise exports.

395

PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Chungking, China
DATE:

July 23, 1943, 9 a.m.

NO.:

1263

This is a strictly confidential message, TF 143,
transmitting the weekly economic report from Mr. Adler
for the Secretary of the Treasury.
1. Regarding prices:
(a) Chungking indices are as followe
Percent Increase Over April
Mey
Wholesale:
Food

General

7290
10830

2

8

Retail:
Food

General

6690
8730

13
1?

(b) Kunming indices are 28 follows (August 1937

municipal government = 100)
Food

General

22300
20400

15
9

In most large cities the price of rice WPB doubled

between May and June; since the beginning of July it the has

risen 10% in Chuncking. To increase revenue yields
government monopoly hee doubled price of salt during the
peet month. A 30% increase in transportetion charges was
effected in June. The Chunpking merchents associations
the beginning of July marked "negotiated" prices of
at non-essentials up an average of 50% (*) in circulation
May approximately CN dollars 3 billion more than the in

April. in Further reports concerning the insupace by
Jape of forged fake notes have been received.
3 Oversold position of the General Bank in June WAS
U. S. $7,077,000, nearly 6 1/4 million of which went AB
revayment

396
-2-

repayment on the cotton and wheat loan and 4651,000, 2/3
of which went as payment for bank notes.

4. The black market rate in Kunming for US currency
is now over 70 and for US checks 1 P over 55.

5. Part of the land tax will be collected by the

Government in kind this year, in cotton in cotton producing
provinces.

6. In 1942 the industrial output MPB running at higher

levels than the 1943 output is. Production of following (?)
other commodities hrs fallen: alcohol, cement, coal,
native cloth, paper, sugar, and tobacco,
ATCHESON

(*) Omission, This is now being serviced on by the
Code Room.

397

Corrected copy of page 2 of paraphrase of telegram # 1263,
July 23, 1943, 9 a.m., from Embasay, Chungking
-2-

repayment on the cotton and wheat loan and 661,00, 2/3
of which went AB payment for bank notes.
4. The black market rate in Kunming for US currency
18 now over 70 and for US checks 18 over 55.

5. Part of the land tax will be collected by the
Government in kind this year, in cotton in cotton producing
provinces,

6. In 1942 the industrial output WAR running at higher
levels than the 1943 output 18. Production of following
among other commodi tier has fallen: alcohol, cement, coal,
native cloth, paper, supar, and tobacco.
ATCHESON

(*) New paragraph. On page 1 in the sixth line from the
bottom of the DATE instead of (*) insert "Two. Legal
tender". The line will now read:
Two. Legal tender in circulation in May apnroximately
Cn dollars 3 billion more

398

NOT TO BE RE-TRANSLITTED
COPY NO. 13
BRITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

OPTEL NO. 241

Information received up 7 a.m. 23rd July, 1943.
1. MILITARY

SICILY. On Eighth Army front no appreciable change.
Troops of Seventh Army occupied ALIMENA and VALLELUNGA, PRIZZI, SOUTH
MARGHERITA, CASTELVETRANO.

399

NOT TO BE RE-TRANSLITTED
COPY NO.

13

BRITISH KOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

OPTEL No. 242

Information received up to 7 a.m., 23rd July, 1943.
1. NAVAL

20th/21st. Light forces engagod U-boats off AUGUSTA,

PACIFIC. 20th. One of H.H. Australian Cruisers torpedoed by U-boat about 170 miles west of ESPIRITU SANTO, but reached

port in tow on 21st. Casualties - 7 killed, 7 missing, 16 wounded.
2. MILITARY

SICILY. 8th Army. On 21st fierce fighting continued
throughout the day. Front line straightened out at a number of points
in CATANIA area. Further vest Canadian troops occupied ASSORO.

7th Army. U.S. troops occupied PETRALIA. hore than

40,000 prisoners have been captured. Large quantities of civil and
military stores were seized at CALTANISETTA.
3. AIR_OPERATIONS

WESTERN_FRONT. 22nd. Typhoon bombors damaged 4 loco

motives in BILGIUM.

ITALY_AND_SICILY. 20th/21st. 70 tons bombs dropped

on COTRONE airfield where hangars, buildings and 7 aircraft sot on
fire and 55 tons on NAPLES railway centre.
21st. Fortresses (B. 17) dropped 72 tons on GROSSETO

airfield (80 miles northwest of ROLE) and 14 tons on CERAMI (Northeast
of SICILY).

22nd. At CATANIA, 5,000 ton ship left sinking after
attack by Allied bombers.
BURLA. 19th/20th, Allied heavy and medium bombers
attacked 3 bridges in LANDALAY and ARAKAN areas, damaging approaches.

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