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Book 635

May 19 - 23, 1943

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Book Page
Advertising

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

-BBoard of Economic Warfare

Meetings, March 11 and May 6 - minutes for - 5/19/43
a) Discussion of
1) Axis shipping in Mediterranean

635

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2) Lend-Lease--BEW agreement

3) Blockade report by Winfield Riefler
4) Swedish trade discussed by Riefler
5) Switzerland, Spain. and Portugal - situation

discussed by Riefler
Meeting 5/20/43 - agenda for

a) Policy on civilian relief in the blockade area
b) Latin American gold mining - modification of
export policy for

79

80

84

Burgess, Randolph
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

-cChiang Kai-shek, Madame

See Foreign Funds Control
China

See Foreign Funds Control
Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's mail report - 5/21/43

148

-DDeferments, Military
Surrey, Stanley S.: Six-months' stay to be requested
by HMJr - 5/19/43

57

-FFinancing, Government

32% Treasury Bonds: $1.4 billion callable not later than
June 15 for payment on October 15
a) HMJr-Bell conversation concerning - 5/19/43
1) Red Cross drive. Community Chest, etc.

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discussed
War Savings Bonds:

Advertising Conference: present: HMJr, Bell, Gaston,
Graves, Gamble, Smith, LaRoche and Rogers 5/19/43

3

a) Space allocation to Treasury, absenteeism,
and black markets discussed

b) Over-all authority for allocation discussed..

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Book Page

Financing, Government (Continued)
War Savings Bonds (Continued):

Payroll Savings Plan: Treasury participation -

635

5/19/43

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211

Progress report by Graves - 5/22/43
Organization Plans:
See also Books 630 and 634

HMJr's conversation with Sproul in New York
reported to Treasury group - 5/21/43
a) Perry Hall and Dick Patterson discussed
b) Gamble not acceptable to Sproul
c) Ransom-HMJr conversation (Sproul present) 5/22/43

1) HMJr suggests conference in Washington
with full Board and as many presidents
as possible

2) Discussion with Bell
a) Burgess reported as standing back
of HMJr

100,107

188

192
205

206

(See also Book 636, page 106)

b) Burgess letter - 5/25/43:
Book 636, page 152

Sproul's letter commented on by Eccles - 5/21/43.
National Director of Sales: Eccles asks for
conference with HMJr before announcement -

144

210

5/22/43

a) Discussion by HMJr (in New York) and Bell:
See Book 636. page 7

Conference: present: HMJr. Bell, Gaston, Sullivan,
White, Paul, Thompson. and Gamble - 5/25/43:

Book 636, page 93

a) Bell-Eccles talk reported
1) FDR-Eccles conference discussed

2) Gamble as Sales Director discussed:
Book 636, page 106

b) Gamble reports on New York talk with "Lew"
Pearson and Bayard Pope: Book 636, page 98

1) Sproul's present position discussed
2) Clearing house associations as liaison
between Treasury and Federal Reserve
discussed: Book 636, page 103

1) List of associations and locations:
Book 636, page 196

c) New York City War Savings Staff plan: Book 636.
pages 101 and 145

d) Bell-Bartelt-Gamble set-up proposed by HMJr:
Book 636, pages 110 and 120

Sproul's illness discussed by HMJr and Eccles 5/25/43: See Book 636, page 185

Head. Walter W. (Chairman. Treasury Var Finance

Committee, St. Louis District): Resignation offered
in view of plans for new set-up - 5/25/43: Book 636
page 205

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Book

Page

635

159

Foreign Economic Operations

See Occupied Territories
Foreign Funds Control

China: Madame Chiang Kai-shek's finances discussed in
Paul memorandum - 5/21/43

(See also Book 636, page 86 - 5/26/43,
and Book 641, page 65 - 6/11/43)
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Gamble, Ted

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

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Hall, Perry
See Financing. Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

Head, Walter W.

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

- JJewish Refugees
See Refugees, Jewish

-LLend-Lease

U. .S.S.R. : Second Soviet Protocol - status of materials
and equipment as of May 1. 1943

161

United Kingdom: Federal Reserve Bank of New York

statement showing dollar disbursements, week ending
May 12, 1943 - 5/20/43

93

-NNugent, Rolf
See Postwar Planning

-0Occupied Territories
Foreign Economic Operations: Coordination to be

discussed in Office of Director of the Budget -

HMJr-Wayne Coy conversation - 5/19/43

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a) White to represent Treasury
Oil Refinery Equipment (Russian)
See Procurement Division

Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund
Redemption of 3% obligations to meet benefit payments:

Opinion asked of Board of Trustees - 5/19/43

*See also Book 643, page 284-A - 6/21/43

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Patterson, Richard
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

Pearson. "Lew"
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

Pope, Bayard

See Financing, Government War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

Post-war Planning

Nugent, Rolf: Discussion of post-war planning and place 635

therein of liquid savings - 5/20/43

88

-RRefugees, Jewish

Apostolic Delegate thanked for assistance of the Holy
See - 5/19/43

72

Revenue Revision

Soldiers' and sailors' relief under House and Senate
pay-as-you-go bills outlined by Paul - 5/19/43
FDR's discussion of situation at Cabinet reported by
Bell - 5/21/43
FDR-Paul-Bell discussion reported to HMJr by Paul 5/22/43

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137
176

Ruml. Beardsley

Removal from National Resources Planning Board and
adviser to Nelson Rockefeller discussed by FDR and
HMJr - 5/19/43
a) Hopkins asked to remind FDR - 5/27/43: See Book 637.

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page 125

-SSoldiers
See Revenue Revision

Sproul, Allan
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

(Organization Plans)

Sports

Discussion at Cabinet meeting - 5/21/43
Surrey, Stanley S.
See Deferments, Military

-TTaxation
See Revenue Revision
Treasury Department

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

139

- UU.S.S.R.
See Lend-Lease

- WWar Savings Bonds

See Financing, Government

Book 635

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May 19, 1943
9:30 A. M.
Robert
Doughton:

All right, thank you. How are you?

HMJr:

Fine. You did a swell job there the other -

D:

HMJr:

D:

HMJr:
D:

HMJr:

yesterday - the other day - yesterday.
The boys did pretty well, didn't they?

I should think 80. In - in baseball, three strikes

are out, aren't they?
How is that?

In baseball, three strikes are out.
Yeah. That's what I said, three times you try
and sink them they won't come up.

Yeah, yes, and I feel very happy. I think you did
a wonderful job on the floor.

D:

Do you think 80?

HMJr:

Yeah.

D:

Well, did you read my speech?

HMJr:

I sure did.

D:

They've got one word in there, got "reject" where

it ought to be "accept", but I'11 correct that.

HMJr:

Yeah.

D:

Well, you can't - I did the best I could.

HMJr:

Well, nobody could do any better.

D:

Well, I thank you. I thank you. Well, the

President's letter was very helpful and your boys
were helpful, everybody - and the leadership did

fine. Rayburn and McCormack, they cooperated fine.

HMJr:
D:

HMJr:

Yeah.

We had fine team
away, you know.
I know.

- well, we had so many boys

-D:

And it was a wonder we beat them at all.

HMJr:

Yeah.

D:

But we have - I'm glad we knocked them out, and I
appreciate your calling me and we're ready to go along
the best we can now.

HMJr:
D:

Well, God bless you.

Thank you. They're coming down - Paul and his crew
are coming down this morning to go over the - some
of these amendments 80 we'll know what we're talking
about.

HMJr:
D:

HMJr:

Good.

Well, all right. Thank you for calling. Goodbye.
All right.

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May 19, 1943
10:00 a.m.

FINANCING - (Advertising)

Present: Mr. Bell

Mr. Gaston

Mr. Gamble

Mr. Smith
Mr. LaRoche
Mr. Rogers

H.M.JR: Well, now, Rogers, is this meeting at your

request or Mr. LaRoche's?

MR. ROGERS: It was a joint request when we asked for

it in the beginning. I know what the idea was - what we
would like to talk with you about.

I will let Chet do it.
MR. LA ROCHE: What we wanted to do was report to you

on our activity with the newspapers of this country, and
it is a report on the basis of about three or four months'

work on the part of myself and other members of the Council.

The problem goes back to the radio allocation plan
when the Treasury had a great deal of time because it had
the most pressing problem.

H.M.JR: Also the best people - also a good staff.
MR. LA ROCHE: That is right, and then there followed,

as you know, many other requests from other departments.

OWI, at that time, was under MacLeish. Finally the advertisers said, "If the Government cannot combine these requests and rate the importance of these things, then there

is no order - each thing defeats itself because there is

so much conflict. We don't see where the end is - where
our time is being taken up every day by aggressive groups

after our time.

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-2So at that time we said to MacLeish, "Let's pool the

whole job, organize it, or we will all lose - we will lose
the support of the advertisers."

As you know, that was worked out, and I think to everybody's satisfaction.
Now, last summer we noticed in making our studies of
the amount of space contributed by the newspapers and adver-

tisers to the Treasury job, that as soon as a well-organized,
clean-cut job came along from somebody else, whether it was

a local job or a job from us or OWI requesting space for the
absenteeism problem, or what not, if the thing seemed important locally and if it was well presented, the space was
withdrawn from the Treasury and allocated to this new problem.

Now, on top of that, we find that locally the advertisers

and the newspapers are beginning to fret and worry and say,

"Well, where is the end of this? First one group comes around
saying that absenteeism is vital - or something - rationing,
or black markets. And then we know the Treasury thing is vital.

Now, we are getting hundreds of requests a month for space.
Now, how do we organize the thing? Which is most important?"

Now, that kind of effort - that kind of pressure on

these fellows makes them lose their concern and interest,
and makes them fed up with the whole thing.

So as a result of that, I went out to Chicago, and I

have been up to Boston, Philadelphia, and Detroit, and other
cities, and have sent Allen around - he has been up in Portland and Hartford - been around two months - also worked
with the top newspapermen like Tripp, Friendly, and the
rest of them.

We feel very definitely, first of all, that we will

be able to get probably more support for the war effort to
explain the problems of the war to the people from the newspapers than from almost any other medium.

I mean by that that the radio method is pretty well
organized. There is not much more stretch in that - not

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much more that you can get. Outdoor is doing about all
that it can do.
In magazines the effort there has got to come, and the
support has got to come, from the conversion of present

advertising. That is coming along fairly well. The magazines themselves are contributing a page a month in virtu-

ally every issue and that will probably be on inflation,
and to that extent ought to help our whole effort.

So the big amount of space can come from the newspapers

themselves and local advertising. There is seven hundred

million dollars' worth of available space there, in total,
which is far bigger than any other source that there is.
Now, we find this, that the newspapers will be able
to get, I believe, two or three pages a week from adver-

tising, and if necessary they will contribute the rest,

I think, to make the equivalent of about three pages a
week of space. That is our present effort.

We have been up to Portland, as I say, and we were
in Pittsburgh yesterday, and our talks with the newspapers we bring the newspapers, radio, and Outdoor - all three
have local mediums - into the meeting, suggest to them

that there be a sponsorship by leading citizens of the
whole effort so that no one medium will get all of the
credit and that this space be allocated in terms of the
problem that you first anticipate the need - get the space

of one section of advertisers maybe for six months, then
go get the rest of the space for another six months, instead of going out every month and asking for this and that
and the other space.

Now, I believe that within the next two or three
months we can have this country pretty well organized -

at least two hundred cities - with their reservoir of

space available there for the needs of the Government.
Now, our concern is that the Treasury Department

doesn't feel - "Well, now, we ought to have those three

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-4pages; we ought to have all of it." Up in Hartford they

went out and got two pages a week - both of the newspapers.
H.M.JR: The Treasury?

MR. LA ROCHE: They went out and got it for the

Treasury. That space will not stick for the Treasury.
First of all, it is too much. You have done the town to
death. It would be wasteful - it would be criticized.

You don't need that much support there. Anyway, even if
they get it for the Treasury, these other things come
along - they are new, they are pressing, they are important.

That question of absenteeism - of nutrition - a fellow
up there like Wilson of Pratt and Whitney will say, "That
is a local problem; devote some of the space to that."
And the newspapers will.

So it is better to have an understanding and stake
out a proper amount that you feel is satisfactory, and
also do the job for the other pressing problems.
H.M.JR: In other words, our boys have been pretty
good in getting space.
MR. LA ROCHE: Very good. They have been good and

OWI has not done anything, really, or done very little.
MR. ROGERS: That is right.

MR. LA ROCHE: If OWI puts on a man, then you are

going to have competition, but we don't want that. We
want to be together in the thing. We want to have an
organized effort.

H.M.JR: Well, now, one thing, Mr. LaRoche, which

isn't quite clear in my mind - and don't misunderstand
what I am going to say - just on the question of organization, has OWI sort of turned us over to the Advertising

Council? Now, just where does the authority begin and end?

It isn't quite clear in my mind.

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-5MR. LA ROCHE: The authority is in the hands of the
local groups and the local committee, whatever it may be or the newspapers almost more than anybody else - which

goes back to Tripp, which goes back to the Council under
Mike Cowles' organizing effort, and goes back here.
tion.

MR. ROGERS: You are thinking of the definite alloca-

MR. BELL: It doesn't begin and end at all.
MR. ROGERS: You are thinking of the definite alloca-

tion and who makes the decision.

H.M.JR: Supposing I agree and then I feel I am being

chiseled, who do I kick to - you or this fellow (Rogers)?

MR. GAMBLE: As it is set up, if the plan were successful, when it once got into operation it would be an OWI
allocation plan.
MR. LA ROCHE: I am not so sure of that.
MR. GASTON: There are two ends to it, Mr. LaRoche:
One is the coordination of the Government requests and
then on the other end comes the decision of the men who

can grant the requests or modify them to suit their own -

they are running their own publications. It is not a
question of order. It is a question of one coordination coordination on the Government end and coordination on
the other end.

H.M. JR: For instance, I have been amazed - I don't
even know where it comes from - to see all these pages
of the Washington newspapers right now for the Treasury.
MR. GAMBLE: There were forty thousand ads run in
the Second War Loan in the daily newspapers of the United

States. Of those forty thousand ads, one-third of them
were Treasury ads that originated in the Treasury; twothirds of those ads were ads that originated in the
communities as a result of the War Bond work that had
been done there.

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MR. LA ROCHE: Local solicitation to make them put up
the money.

H.M.JR: I am talking about right now - this week.
MR. GAMBLE: Those are coming from the War Savings

organization and they are the follow-up of the Second War
Loan advertisements built around family income and the
pay-roll savings, and the continuous program of the sale
of War Bonds. Those originated in Washington.
H.M.JR: That is what LaRoche has run into.

MR. GAMBLE: That is right. I might add, we have in

four cities this plan in operation on our own, which is
nothing but a Treasury plan, and we have three cities all

ready to start, Philadelphia, Chicago, and New York, where
we have gone out and sold, as you know, Chet, through the
advertisers of the newspapers in New York. This plan is

in operation. I think you sat in on some of the meetings -

at least, some of your people did - and we have a plan
where we sell advertisers on a fifty-two-week plan of
sponsoring the War Bond advertisement.

We have in several hundred cities today a fifty-twoweek plan; not the advertisers' plan, but where individual

advertisers have agreed to buy and sponsor War Bond adver-

tising on a fifty-two-week basis.

I think one of the big complications is, what are we

going to do in those cities where papers have gone out and
signed individual advertisers on fifty-two-week sponsorship

of some type of War Bond advertising. I have a list of
them.

H.M.JR: My question hasn't been answered.

MR. LA ROCHE: Who is running this thing? All right,

let's answer that question. This whole effort is not being

run by anybody. The Advertising Council is probably the
most active group of people in the general over-all philosophy and effort, but you are running an effort of your own
here - the Treasury Department. You are going out and getting
a certain amount of space. That is point one.

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-7Point two is, OWI is considering doing the same thing considering the possibility of putting on a newspaperman
who will go out and get space.
H.M.JR: By gawd, if they come over to take mine

there is going to be hell to pay. That is what they all
do - the first thing they do is - what is the name of
this fellow that we have?
MR. ROGERS: Bridge.

H.M.JR: That will be the first one they want.
MR. LA ROCHE: All right, Mr. Secretary, remember
that Mike Cowles suggested this idea of getting the newspapermen together, bringing them in with you and organizing

this thing to get this space.

H.M.JR: That is what I am coming to. We will keep
coming back to the point. Just as a lateral thing, I was

asking you where the hell does this Allied Newspaper Coun-

cil come into this thing?

MR. LA ROCHE: The Allied Newspaper Council, at this
moment, is the servant of the Treasury Department, concerned with getting space for the Treasury Department.

That is its present concern.

Now, we are trying to look ahead a little bit. They

will be requested, probably - they have not been requested
yet - by OWI to concern themselves, too, with space for
these other problems.

So we are saying to you, "This is coming up; let's
discuss the matter." How are we going to approach it?

Is it better to have Don Bridge when he sells the fifty-

two pages for the Treasury say, "In addition, you should
have fifty-two pages for these other problems, or should
OWI put a man in who, after Don Bridge gets fifty-two,
goes out and says, "You ought to have fifty-two pages for
these other problems"?

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-8How do you want to operate this thing?

H.M.JR: We still come back to my original question.

Who is going to run the thing? Is it going to be the

Advertising Council, the Allied Newspaper Council, or the

OWI?

MR. LA ROCHE: Let's look at our experience - who

runs the radio allocation plan? That is run by and given
direction by the OWI - they allocate the space. They have

formed the pool there, and through agreement on the part of

all of us, we say, "All right, you apportion these subjects."
Now, you are not going to have the same problem or the

same answer - it will not work in the case of the newspapers. Why? In the case of the radio allocation plan,
that is the allocation of commercial radio space by advertisers who say, "All right, we will give you a minute or
two or three minutes in our show."
When you come to the newspapers, though, they have

far different feelings about the Government and about

the political situation. Some of them say to us, "Look,

if this is for the present Government in Washington, we

will have nothing to do with it. If it is for the people,
if it is to help everybody, all right, we will go along."
We say, "This is in the interests of the people. Sure,

you have to have instructions from the Government as to

what they think is the most important thing; you can pay

attention to it as you wish, or not. That is up to you."

So you do have a different problem there on the part
of the newspapers than you run into on radio.

H.M.JR: So it is not so easy.
MR. GAMBLE: May I ask a question which may throw a

little light on it for the Secretary? I am not now speaking against the plan, but I read the plan Mr. Allen wrote.
H.M.JR: Who is Mr. Allen?

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MR. GAMBLE: Advertising Council man.

MR. LA ROCHE: Assigned to this job.
MR. GAMBLE: He works very closely with the OWI. He

stated in his plan that it is entirely possible the Treasury
might come out of this operation with as high as thirty
percent of the continuing advertising. Now, isn't it true
that if they came out of it with thirty percent it would,
in all probability, be a considerable reduction from what
the Treasury is now getting?

MR. LA ROCHE: I would say yes if it is the present

amount of advertising in most of the cities, but if it is

thirty percent of a much larger amount, it conceivably

could be bigger.

H.M.JR: Let me ask you this. I always remember the

story - I don't know whether it is true or not, but it is
a good story to illustrate it. When Old Gold started out

they started in some town in New England and took a State
and then they spread out through New England; in other words,
they tested the thing.
MR. LA ROCHE: What they were doing was getting local

distribution before they went national. It is not a test.
H.M.. JR: Locally before they went national - couldn't
this thing be tested before we all commit ourselves?
MR. LA ROCHE: There isn't any test you can make that
would be new over and above what we are now doing. It is

being tested all the time. The basic idea of getting local
support has been tested. We know there is the support.
H.M.JR: What you fellows are saying to me, except

you are being a little polite about it - I am not used to
being dealt with so politely-- (Laughter)
MR. LA ROCHE: Not trying to be polite - we are trying
to get at the problem.

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H.M.JR: Well, we have got something going pretty good

right now. OWI has been asleep at the switch. It looks
like we might be in kind of a clash because we have some

of these people tied up for fifty-two weeks, and that sort

of thing. It is a question of getting together.

MR. LA ROCHE: Yes, a question of having order. Let
me speak for Mike Cowles; he hasn't been asleep at the
switch. The pressing problem that we faced when Jim went
over there, and when we discussed this thing, was to get
the space for the Treasury. The definite problem was here
and it was imminent, and the other problems were not so
pressing. You discussed the matter with him and we set up
this Allied Newspaper Council. We got that space.
Now these other things are coming up, they are getting
pressing, and they are beginning to take shape - like absenteeism, and those things.
Now, we have available ten thousand dollars that Mike
has assigned to the Advertising Council to prepare copy

for these various subjects - absenteeism, inflation, and

so forth. The material will go out.

I am simply saying to you that if there isn't order,
if it isn't understood, all those requests - eight or nine
will go out and blanket your effort, and in the end you

will have trouble getting space because you get into a com-

petitive situation, then, where OWI is after this space
with the local groups. We say, "This is more important,"
and we all lose out. We annoy the source of this stuff so
much they say, "The devil with this thing. We are not going
to cooperate.

I say, what we need is a plan.
H.M.JR: I can answer you without consulting anybody.
I feel
way:
now,
have
this
but let's
in thewe
Right
say,the
edge

on you, long run it isn't good for the country

and it isn't good for the war effort to have this confusion;
and I think that the thing to do is to all pool our efforts
so that the thing which is the most critical at the time

gets the boost.

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Now, I am going on this assumption, that the Advertising Council and OWI will agree that when we have a

national drive, which will be two or three times a year not more than that--

MR. BELL: Right.

that that is the most important thing
because we have got to get the money. Now, I will be in
the market, so to speak, two or three times a year at the
H.M.JR:

most, and when that is on, if we understand each other,
that comes first.
MR. ROGERS: Oh, sure, no question about that.

MR. LA ROCHE: That is right.

H.M.JR: Then I think we should with the other little
things - not little, but we ought to get support to a
lesser degree on some of our things, like pay-roll deduction, which is good, when inflation and that sort of thing
comes in the picture; but they shouldn't be dropped out of
the picture.
MR. LA ROCHE: No, no.

MR. ROGERS: That is right.

H.M.JR: But I don't think pay-roll deduction should

dominate newspaper advertising fifty-two weeks of the

year. On the other hand, I think there should be continuation of the support for the advertisers for that because
everybody agrees it is good.

Now, you people have treated me right; I have got
confidence in you. We got wonderful support during the
drive - OWI and the Council - everybody.

So I think the easiest thing on a thing like this is
just to tell whoever is going to work it out to work it

out with Ted Gamble. I am just laying down how I feel about

it. But in the long run this constant confusion - that

Washington doesn't know what it wants - hurts everybody.

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MR. GAMBLE: I think everybody is agreed on that.
Fundamentally, we all think the same about it. We are

all for coordination and for doing the job intelligently.

I think we do have some differences in opinion which can

be worked out.

H.M.JR: They have got to be worked out, but just

as long as I say I am in favor of working it out - for

the time being we have the edge, but I am willing to give
it up and pool our interests as long as these fellows
feel this, that when we have a drive on, that is number one.
MR. GAMBLE: Then, so long as we can protect those
plans where good volunteer citizens and merchants them-

selves have entered into an agreement to do a job for the
Treasury - we want to handle individual situations like

that delicately.

MR. LA ROCHE: I don't see any effort to go back and

take that space away.

MR. GAMBLE: Not go into St. Louis where they have
these magnificent plans--

H.M.JR: Look, Ted, there is no use arguing about it.
I think the thing is - you don't want to be bothered with
this, Herbert.
MR. GASTON: No, I don't. I wanted to suggest something about copy, though, in this same connection.

H.M.JR: Go ahead - but if it is agreeable to you,

Bell - is it?

MR. BELL: It makes sense to me.

H.M.JR: It is all right with you?
MR. BELL: Yes.

H.M.JR: Let's tell Ted - you have got full authority

to go ahead and settle it, and I don't want to hear about

it again. I don't want to hear about it.

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MR. GASTON: I think that is fine.

What I wanted to say is this: There is a great field
here for coordination of copy. It isn't a question of
just saying so much to inflation, or so much to OPA enforcement, and so much to bonds, and so on, but you have
here a coordinated campaign addressed to the public. What

you can do is you two can fit in and you can carry in a

series of ads a list of the things, a group of things how the individual can serve - including in every ad all
of the different ends to it. And then you can vary your
appeal in the individual ads. That is, you can concentrate,

make your lead be on one thing one time and another another
time, but keep grouping the things together to give evidence
of a Governmental coordination on the problem.

MR. LA ROCHE: That will be done. A lot - the present
problem on inflation, for example, the various things you
can do to stop inflation.
H.M.JR: I hope that Stuart Peabody will be transferred

from food on your Council to Treasury.

MR. LA ROCHE: That has been done.

H.M.JR: Good. That is fine. And then he has agreed,

except when he has to make a field trip, to come down a

day a week.

MR. LA ROCHE: He has been assigned to the Council

to this job - Treasury job.

H.M.JR: That will mean that the previous man wasn't

fired, but I understand he has other interests.

MR. LA ROCHE: Thomas - we have other things for him

to do.

H.M.JR: His own business.
MR. LA ROCHE: He has a problem, but he is going to
help me more on the general management of the whole situation.

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H.M.JR: He was entirely satisfactory.
MR. LA HOCHE: A very able man.

H.M.JR: Then you will take another look at Mr. Lemmon,
won't you?
MR. LA ROCHE: Yes.

H.M.JR: And I will be perfectly frank, I am not too
happy - I don't know whether you know this, Bell, that

Mr. Lemmon is paid twenty thousand dollars a year by
Sterling Products to be contact man between the Advertising Council and the Treasury.

MR. BELL: No, I didn't know that. I don't know
Mr. Lemmon very well.

H.M.JR: I have never been too happy about it. But
again, Gamble, I give you full power on that to act with
these people. That was something Stuart Peabody worked

out, or was it you?

MR. LA ROCHE: Thomas and myself. Thomas pays the

twenty thousand dollars - h gives us the man. It is

hard to say, "Look, we don't want him." Lemmon is a good
man but he is not a good man here, and Thomas is doing this

for good will - as a gesture - as a helpful thing. Well,

if he isn't helping, if he isn't creating good will, he is

wasting his money. He had better save it.

H.M.JR: I don't think, necessarily, they agree with
me.

MR. GAMBLE: No, I don't agree with you. Mr. Hill

came down here himself when they offered the services of
Lemmon, and he said that they would like to make a contri-

bution. They weren't trying to find a way to do it, but
that certainly-H.M.JR: Is it a contribution?

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MR. GAMBLE: It is a contribution.
H.M. JR: Does Lemmon make a contribution?

MR. GAMBLE: Yes, I think that both Stuart and
Mr. Robbins changed their opinion of Mr. Lemmon.
MR. LA ROCHE: He is a good, orderly, experienced

advertising man without a very forceful personality, and
he doesn'thave a lot of ideas, but he has-MR. GAMBLE: Stuart told me yesterday he felt differently about Lemmon now than when he came here.

MR. LA ROCHE: I could get a better man for twenty
thousand dollars.

H.M.JR: I will leave it with you and Peabody.

'MR. GAMBLE: All right. I talked to Mr. Hill at the

time - president of the company - and they had no strings
attached to Mr. Lemmon.

H.M.JR: I want Fred Smith to know what is going on,

but this isn't his field.

MR. LA ROCHE: He will be after a raise now when he

hears that. (Laughter)
We look to Peabody now, or Thomas, or the Council

Board, as the Treasury contact. Now, we look to our
agency for the quality of the work. We look to Lemmon
for orderly management, watching the detail and seeing
that things are followed through. We do not look to him
as the adviser - as the man in charge. He is a detail man.
MR. GAMBLE: If we didn't--

H.M.JR: I shouldn't look twenty thousand dollars in
the mouth, what? (Laughter)

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MR. LA ROCHE: No, I think it would be better, Mr.
Secretary, if we had a man that everybody said, "Well, he

is fine.

H.M.JR: He doesn't spark.
MR. LA ROCHE: No.

H.M.JR: But, now, we don't have the Advertising
Council man, your Washington representative - he doesn't
come in to a meeting like this.
MR. GAMBLE: That is why Lemmon was hired, Mr. Secre-

tary, to do this.

H.M.JR: But they have a good man down there.
MR. LA ROCHE: We have a very able man. He will
come to any meeting you want.

H.M.JR: I would like to meet him. They say is is
a good copy man. He sparks, doesn't he?
MR. LA ROCHE: Yes.

H.M.JR: What is his name?
MR. LA ROCHE: Ted Ripley.

MR. GAMBLE: I was speaking of Allen.

H.M.JR: What else have you fellows got?
MR. LA ROCHE: That is about all.
H.M. JR: That clears the deck?
MR. LA ROCHE: That clears the deck.

H.M.JR: Bell?
MR. BELL: No.

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MR. GAMBLE: I think we will start this, Mr.Secretary,
with a meeting of the Allied Newspaper Council, and have
Mr. Tripp down.

H.M.JR: Listen, I don't want to hear about it. It
is your responsibility.

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May 19, 1943
10:35 a.m.

FINANCING (Distribution of Second War
Loan Booklet)

Present: Mr. Bell

Mr. Gaston

Mr. Gamble

Mr. Smith

Mr. Tickton
Mr. Lindow
Mr. Banyas

H.M.JR: What I want is - and, Gamble, get a piece

of paper because it is going to be your responsibility I want the advice of these people.

I want to take this booklet (indicating booklet

entitled "The Story of America's Greatest War Loan") Dan, have you seen it?
MR. BELL: No.

MR. SMITH: It is wonderful, it is grand. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: Incidentally, who helped you on it?
MR. SMITH: Banyas' group worked all night on it,
and Lindow and Tickton worked with me on it from the

time we left the meeting until three o'clock in the
morning.

H.M.JR: Well, if you haven't seen it, it is a
little story on the drive.
Number one, I want every bank - every member of

the FDIC - the president of every one of the banks,

about fifteen thousand of them - to get this. That is

number one.

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-2What I want to ask, Bell, is, should I get a

mailing list from Leo Crowley and shoot it from Washington or should I ask the forty-eight State chairmen
of War Bonds to distribute it to the banks?

You take, for instance, the Bank of America - it

isn't just for Mr. Giannini to get it. I want the six

hundred branches to get it. How do I do that?

MR. BELL: Well, you can send it to the Federal
Reserve banks and ask them to send it to everybody on

their mailing list, which means all of the banks and

all their branches and all the financial institutions,

insurance companies, and everybody else buying Govern-

ment securities. They have a list of about twenty
thousand.

H.M.JR: A list of about twenty thousand?
MR. BELL: Twenty or twenty-two thousand names

they have on their list.

H.M.JR: A list developed for us?

MR. BELL: That is right. Every time we put out
a circular on financing it goes to that list, and every

bank is on that list.

H.M.JR: Would that be the branches, too?
MR. BELL: Yes.

H.M.JR: For instance, Marine Midland branches?

MR. BELL: Sure, all the branches.
H.M.JR: How would we do that?

MR. BELL: We would send that through the Public
Debt Service to each bank - Federal Reserve bank.
H.M.JR: Would you do that?

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MR. BELL: Yes, I will do that.
H.M.JR: It would be better for you to do it than

Gamble.

MR. BELL: Yes, if it is going through Public Debt.
Dan.

H.M.JR: I am very anxious that it go out promptly,
MR. GAMBLE: You want twenty thousand? There are

only thirty thousand ordered on the original order. That
is all they can multilith at one time without changing

the plates, but we can have them probably by tomorrow.
We can have part of them today.

MR. BELL: This week, is that - whenever they are
ready we can send them out that night.
MR. GASTON: Don't you want your workers in the

organization to get them just as soon - certainly not
later than the banks get them?

H.M.JR: Well, that is the purpose of this meeting.
Bell says he wants - can you find out exactly?
MR. BELL: Yes. I am not so sure they shouldn't

go to everybody who worked on the last campaign, the
committees, and so on.

H.M.JR: I think they should.
MR. SMITH: I think so.
MR. BELL: We could probably use your thirty
thousand by telling the Federal Reserve people that

you want it to go to everybody on their mailing list
who would normally get Treasury financing circulars,
as well as to go to all of the committees and their
workers in the last campaign.

H.M.JR: How many would that be?

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-4MR. BELL: I don't know.

MR. GAMBLE: I think you had better make it to

the leaders because if you don't you will get into a

distribution problem.

MR. BELL: There must have been a million workers
in the last campaign.

H.M.JR: Could you do this for me? I don't think
you want a million copies of that, do you?
MR. GAMBLE: No. That is when you get into

difficulties. If it goes into the hands of important
people, the important workers--

MR. BELL: You could give it to the committee

chairmen.

MR. GAMBLE: That is right, and that is where we
should stop it.
H.M.JR: Supposing you do this - supposing you
telegraph the Federal Reserve presidents and say that

we have this bulletin and we want it to go to each

bank and each branch of each bank and each important
worker-MR. BELL: Each person who headed a group or

committee.

H.M.JR: Right, and ask how many they would like
to have and to send you back a telegram.
MR. BELL: Today.

H.M.JR: Answer you today, that we would like to
get as wide a distribution as possible.
(Mr. Tickton, Mr. Lindow, and Mr. Banyas entered

the conference.)

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- 5H.M.JR: We are just discussing this excellent
bulletin that I understand you people did overnight -

something like that. I want to thank you all.
I think if you would send a telegram, Bell - I am
repeating myself - to the Federal Reserve bank presidents
saying that we want every important leader who had anything to do with War Bonds - every bank and branch bank
in that community - say, "We have this bulletin; how many
do you want?" Then you can let Gamble know and he can
order them.

MR. BELL: All right.
H.M.JR: But if you have thirty thousand now, I can

tell you you ought to have a hundred thousand.
MR. GAMBLE: That is right.
MR. BELL: How many have you got now?

MR. GAMBLE: Thirty thousand run off. The plates

permit the running off of thirty thousand without
changing.

MR. BELL: The plates are worn out at thirty

thousand?

MR. GAMBLE: Yes.

H.M.JR: You had better order another set - two
more sets.
MR. GAMBLE: Three runs.

H.M.JR: But I am very anxious, for very special
reasons, that this thing get out just as promptly as
possible - very anxious.
MR. GAMBLE: The ones going out today - last

night and today - are going to publishers and editors
and commentators. The publishers and editors are

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-6being confined to the daily newspapers. I think we
could add to that the weekly newspapers.

I think we should send a small supply only to each

one of the forty-eight State administrators, together
with a letter, in addition to the Federal Reserve distribution.

H.M.JR: I would like the farm press to get it.

There are not very many of them. I mean just for old
times' sake.

And then Miss Chauncey has a list of the Cabinet

and heads of Executive agencies in town. I would like
it to go to them.
And when it goes to the Fed - I am not sure but
that every member of the Fed Board here should get it.
MR. GAMBLE: What would you think of doing some-

thing that might put a little different complexion on
this - if we sent them to each one of the State administrators and asked them to write letters to
Congressmen and enclose a copy?

H.M.JR: Wonderful.

MR. GAMBLE: It would stop this idea of Government somebody raising hell with us.

H.M.JR: Smart. How do you like it?
MR. BELL: No. I would stay away from the Congress.

H.M.JR: You don't like the bulletin?
MR. BELL: Yes, I like this. I thought you meant
the suggestion.

H.M.JR: You don't like this bulletin?
MR. BELL: Yes. I didn't like the suggestion. I
think we ought to stay away from Congress.

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-7H.M.JR: O.K., we will take Bell's advice.
MR. SMITH: How about the committees that you made

your presentation to before the drive? Wouldn't you be
expected to send this to them?

H.M.JR: Well, let John L. Sullivan take this up

and call on Mr. George and Mr. Doughton and ask them

whether it would be good or bad to distribute this, and
John make a little speech - do it by hand. Let John do
that.

Anybody got any other ideas?

MR. GAMBLE: We were having a meeting on it at

eleven-fifteen. Have you any ideas, in addition, on

this distribution that I can clear with you?
H.M.JR: No, this is a new deal. You are responsible. Don't come back at me - to hell with it.
You have the decision. It is your responsibility to
do it, but do it promptly. And, remember, my policy

is I don't check up on people. Do it. I haven't
time to check up. I haven't got the time to be consulted.

O.K.

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May 19, 1943

My dear Mr. President:

I am sending you herewith "The
Story of America's Greatest War Loan"

which I hope you will find interesting.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan To

The President,
The White House.

Copies in Diary

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THE STORY
OF

AMERICA'S GREATEST
WAR LOAN

A Report by

Secretary of the Treasury

May 25, 1943

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DURING THE THREE WEEKS between April 12 - May 1,
the American people invested

18 BILLION, ,

500 MILLION
DOLLARS
in the future of their free country. This was the

most tremendous financing task in the history of the
world. I feel that the people should have the facts

about this successful undertaking. It will make
them proud -- but more than that, it will give them

a better understanding of the even greater tasks yet
to be done in financing the most expensive war in
history.
Before the war the Axis boasted that Democracy's
armies would be weak, and flabby. Now they know

better. And now the people on the home fronts all
over the world realize what kind of people they are
fighting. They know that you and I and all of our

neighbors are in this war to the finish. The fact
that we sold 18 billion 500 million dollars in the
Second War Loan is proof enough.
WHAT THIS PROVES

We exceeded by more than five billion the goal we set
for ourselves. This is a measure of our enthusiasm

and patriotism. The result proves many things. It

proves that the American people stand solidly behind
their Commander in Chief, that they recognize this as
their war. and they are willing and eager to finance
it.

It proves, also, that the American people are not going to sit back and wait for any forced savings plan
in order to finance this most expensive war in all

history. This, I might add, is vitally important to
me.

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3

I believe in the American people; I believe that they

The real battle is still ahead of us. All that we

will go to the very limit of their capacity if only

learned in this Second War Loan Drive, all the enthusiasm that we gained, will be useful in the bigger

they understand the urgency of the situation.

job that we still have to do.

From reports that have come to me from all over the
country, and as a result of what I saw and heard on
a seven-thousand-mile trip from which I recently returned, I have come to some definite conclusions as
to the reasons for our success. It seems to me that
the explanation is found in the spirit of the American people and their deep-rooted determination to
fight this war through to victory.

THERE IS NO EASY WAY

There is no automatic and easy process for winning
battles on the home front any more than there is an
automatic and easy process for winning battles in
the field. The war must be won and the war must be

financed by the voluntary. united effort of the

whole American people.

THE WAR SPIRIT SELLS BONDS

What success in financing means to our fighters
is illustrated by a conversation I had recently with
the Chief of Staff. General Marshall came over to

When the people really become aflame with the war

spirit, all the other problems seem to solve them-

selves. Labor and management get together: produc-

the Treasury to have lunch with me and. before he

left. he said:

tion rises to an all-time high: and bond sales go
up automatically. That checks with what all our
figures tell us.

"Mr. Secretary. I want you to answer a question for me and to answer it with complete
frankness. Can we military leaders plan to

War spirit, labor-management relations, production,

fight this war in an orderly way -- in the

and bond sales all go hand in hand.

Military terms to describe this Second War Loan vic-

tory -- and it is a victory -- are only partly appro-

priate. There can be no comparison between the selfdenial needed to finance the war adequately and the
suffering and death which our fighting men must face.

surest and most effective manner -- or must

0

we take extraordinary risks for fear the

money will not hold out?"
My answer was:

"General, the American people will take care

Yet, there is a close relationship, a very definite

of that. What they have done in this

war on the fighting front. Neither is won in a single

produced and the spirit they have shown

similarity between the war on the home front and the

engagement. On both fronts the war must go on through

a succession of gains until the final and complete
victory is won. We can speak of this success in the
Second War Loan Drive only as a victory in a minor

engagement. It is like the taking of a single fortified point while the main battlefield and the main

forces of the enemy still lie ahead.

Second War Loan Drive -- the money they have

is proof enough for me that they will not let
our fighters suffer from lack of support until we achieve complete victory. no matter

how long that may be. nor how much it may
cost."

That was my answer to General Marshall. : know it
is the answer of the American people.

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HERE I S WHAT HAPPENED
N THE SECOND WAR LOAN
IN THE SECOND WAR LOAN (as in the first, last

MUCH OF THE MONEY for our Bond Drives comes from

insurance companies and other corporations. They
are looking for sound investments and they know

that there is no sounder investment than a U. S.
Bond. Here is the record for these organisations:

December) some of the money was borrowed from com-

mercial banks. We didn't give them all they wanted
but limited them to set amounts. Here are the banks
purchases:

INSURANCE COMPANIES
AND CORPORATIONS
$91Bil

III

COMMERCIAL BANKS

$58

$5/Bil

1st War Loan
Dec.1942

Goal

Actual Sales
2ND War Loan

Apr.1943
Excludes Dealers and Brokers

1st War Loan

2ND War Loan

Dec.1942

Apr.1943

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BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT of all sources of funds

THE PEOPLE HAVE THE
MONEY TO FINANCE THE

is INDIVIDUALS. In selling War Bonds to indi-

viduals we have made great progress, although, of
course, much remains to be done. Here is a record
of our sales to people in the December Drive, compared to our goal and actual sales in the Second War

WAR

Loan:

When the Government buys war material, the money goes

to the public in the wages, salaries and profits of

the people who make and sell the war goods. In other
words, when we spend billions on the war, the same
billions become income to people and businesses.

INDIVIDUALS

THE QUESTION IS: Who gets the money - and

how
much of it can we expect to get for War
Bonds?

$34Bil

Some of it goes to corporations and some of it to
individuals.

$2/5Bil

Our own economists and consulting economists point
out that the bulk of the money which we must get in
1943 from individuals must come from those people

SIBil

IN

1st War Loan
Dec.1942

Goal

Actual Sales
2ND War Loan

Apr.1943

earning less than $5,000 net. The average worker-the shipyard worker, the machinist, the woman war
worker, the white collar employee -- these will have
7/8 of the current income after taxes. As our drives
continue, more and more of our money will have to
come from these people. until every person receiving
income above the barest subsistence level will have
to pitch in.

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WHERE THE MONEY IS

Look at the total incomes of the country and where

the money goes in the chart below. You can see that
savings are going into War Bonds in growing amounts,

and that present goals call for further increases,
1/8 of all

the income

of all
the

HOW PEOPLE USE THEIR INCOMES

income

War

Bonds
Savings

WORKERS

Insurance

ALL OTHER

8 Other

UNDER $5.000

-

A YEAR

Taxes

Living
Expenses

with which to buy War Bonds.

We aimed to get 55% of the amount of this money

accumulating in the first 4 months of this year
(in place of the 478 which was so invested in the
last half of 1942). but because of the success of
the Second War Loan. we actually secured 60% Our

tentative program calls for aiming at 65% in the

present
4 months and at 75% in the last four months
of
the vear.

4

This is the money. not used for the necessities of
life, nor invested in life insurance, nor used for
the payment of debts, that will supply the funds

1942

4

into life insurance, into savings bank deposits, and
are paying off debts. Knowing how much of the total
amount of savings is being invested this way, we can
estimate the amount of savings which will be left in
the hands of individuals,

Lost

Months

First
Months

1943

4

We know that all the people who are making reasonable wages and salaries are putting a certain amount

Second
Months
1943

(Estimated)

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11

RRRRR
50.000.000 PEOPLE OWN WAR BONDS

5/6
Of all people employed

HAVE BOUGHT BONDS

Although we are a long way from being able to say
"The job is done" I think we should be proud of the
fact that so many American people have bought War

Bonds. If you count every person in the U. S. --

the working people and the housewives, the children

and infants, the lame, the halt and the blind -- we
can say that almost half the entire population of
the country own at least one bond.

If you only consider the 60,000,000 people who have

jobs, or who are in the armed services, you find
that five out of every six are War Bond holders.

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How did all these bonds get distributed? Mostly by

volunteer workers -- workers who became bond sales-

men and spent spare time, day and night, serving
their country on the Home Front. In all, there were
more than 1,000,000 people "in the service" for the
drive, They have done an admirable job. and to them
the nation owes a great debt.

DURING THE 2ND
WAR LOAN

22,700,000
$25 BONDS WERE SOLD
AND

4,600,000

$50 BONDS

The Second War Loan has been one of the most tremen-

dous transactions in history. For one indication,
look at the fact that 33 million E bonds -- "people's
bonds" we call them -- were sold. These can be purchased only by individuals, who are limited to
$3.750 investment in this particular bond during any
one year. Of the 33 million E bonds, nearly 27 mila

lion were of $25 and $50 denomination.

10 out of every 1,000 men and women in the U.S. were

VOLUNTARY BOND SALESMEN
During the 2ND War Loan Drive

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A QUICK LOOK AHEAD-HOW WE MUST GET THE

100 BILLIONS NEEDED

WE HAVE ALREADY

BORROWED 25 BILLIONS
THIS YEAR

FOR WAR THIS YEAR
The armed forces know how much equipment and man-

power it will take to beat back the Axis during

1943. Your Treasury also knows how much money will
be required to supply the armed forces with equip-

ment to feed and clothe the men, to take care of
lend-lease requirements and other war expenses.

Already during 1943 we have raised, through the sale
of War Bonds, about $25 billions.
That means that we now know we can count on having

$55 billions of the $100 billions we will need, That
leaves $45 billions that will have to be raised, some
of it through new taxes, the rest of it through the
sale of War Bonds.

The Treasury also has a plan for getting the huge
amounts of money that will be needed.

WE WILL ALSO NEED TO RAISE
WE WILL GET

45 BILLIONS MORE

30 BILLIONS

Part of this $45 billions will come as a result of
THROUGH TAXES IN 1943

Under the present tax laws, we know we will get at

least $30 billions. I have no doubt that we will

need, before the year is out, to ask for new taxes,
to increase the amount of money we will get this way.
Devising taxes in wartime is a serious problem, be-

cause it is so difficult to deal equitably and justly
with all the people. But I am sure tnat this can be

done.

the regular purchases of War Bonds, month by month,

through payroll savings. Part of it will come from

people who realize that we must not wait for drives

to buy extra bonds. The rest of it we will need to
secure through special drives. I am confident that

the American people will continue to oversubscribe
our war loans and make the voluntary way work. That
will be one of the best ways we have of showing the

Axis how wrong they were when they said that the
American people could not stand up in a crisis, that
our democratic ways would collapse when the going

got tough. The chart on the next page shows our
program for 1943 -- what has happened so far, and
what is yet to be done.

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This
F
I

N

represents
100

billions

A
N

The cost
of the

In the first
4 months

Therefore

of this year,
we sold
more than

25 billions
of War Bonds.

war

N

during

18.5 billions

1943

in the

FOR

E

HT

still raise

7 billions
before the

this year
45 billions

Second
War Loan

in new taxes

Campaign.

additional
sales of
War Bonds.

and

Second

G

T

we must

War Loan.

Under

present
tax laws
we will

W

get 30

A

billions
from taxes

Borrowed
in First
4 Months

R

WAS

I

N

9

4
3
DATE

Present

Present

Taxes

Taxes

THE 2ND WAR LOAN BROUGHT 90% OF THE MONEY
RAISED DURING ALL DRIVES IN WORLD WAR I

You may be interested to know how the Second War
Loan compares to drives that were held during the

first World War. There were five War Bond drives
between May 1917 and May 1919, and as a result a

total of $21 billions was raised. These drives
required 18 weeks of concentrated work.

In our 3-week Second War Loan we raised 18 billions,
or 90% as such as in the five drives of World War I.
Amounts Raised
World Wor I
$21 Bil
(5 Drives)

2ND War Loan
$18% Bil

S

$

S

S

S

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May 19, 1943
11:05 A. M.
HMJr:

Henry talking.

Sam

Rayburn:

Yes, Henry.

HMJr:

I just wanted to tell you what a swell job I thought
you did yesterday on that tax bill.

R:

Well, my gosh (laughs) it was close enough, but I
told them we'd doubled our majority from the last
time. We had four the other time and eight this
time.

HMJr:

(Laughs)

R:

It sure was tough going, but the boys acted mighty
nicely.

HMJr:
R:

Yeah.

When you can pull a thing like that with only losing only seven of your - in over two hundred
Democrats, you're doing pretty darn well.

HMJr:

Well, I thought you did - I thought you did extremely

R:

Now, Henry

HMJr:

Yes.

R:

well.

We just can't go over to the Senate with our
backs bowed. We've got to try to get something,
haven't we?

HMJr:

Can't do what?

R:

I say we just can't go over - our boys just can't
go over to the Senate with our backs bowed, and

HMJr:

No.

and

R:

HMJr:
R:

H:

No.

BOOK - sock - sock - we ought to try to work
something out on this, don't you think?
Well, they're up there now with Doughton, my boys
are

-2R:

HMJr:

I see.

.... and Doughton is of the frame of mind that he's asked the boys -- this is just between us

really -- to tell them what we think is best

R:

Uh huh.

and he - he hasn't done that now in a long time

HMJr:
R:

HMJr:

Yeah.

....and Paul and the rest of them are right up there

now.
R:

HMJr:

Well, that's fine.
and I think - we - you - you got - we've got
to have something concrete.

R:

That's right.

HMJr:

Isn't that right?

R:

That's right.

HMJr:

Yeah.

R:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And that - I - I haven't heard Doughton in such - 80
happy in a long time.

R:

HMJr:
R:

(Laughs) I see. Well, we all - all of us did a

pretty good job, I thought.
Well, I know you did, and I want to say "Thank you. "
Well, thank you, Henry. Goodbye.

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cc - Mr. White

31

May 19, 1943
3:02 p.m.
Wayne

Coy:

Mr. Secretary?

HMJr:

Speaking.

C:

Wayne Coy.

HMJr:

Go ahead.

C:

How are you, sir?

HMJr:

Fine.

C:

There has been a great deal of discussion for
the last several months about foreign economic
operations

HMJr:
C:

HMJr:

Yeah.

and a great deal of conflict and difference
of thinking about the thing
Yeah.

by various agencies.

C:

HMJr:

Yeah.

C:

We - we're getting together a group of people
tomorrow from the agencies involved to - to

talk the thing over, and see if we can't all
those conflicts and be able to offer to the
military a unified program from the civilian

of us agree upon the thing so as to eliminate
agencies of the Government.
HMJr:
C:

Yeah.

I wondered if you couldn't send us a couple of
people over that can talk about that thing.

HMJr:

Sure, I can send Harry White.

C:

Harry White?

HMJr:

Yes.

32

-2C:

It'd be 2:00 o'clock tomorrow in Room 252.

HMJr:

He'11 be there.

C:

That's the Director's office.

The other agencies coming are Lend-Lease, B.E.W.,
State Department, and Governor Lehman's organization.

HMJr:

Well, White represents me with B.E.W. and with the

C:

Yeah, fine.

HMJr:

So he's the logical person.

C:

Fine, and thank you very much.

HMJr:

Thank you for asking us.

C:

All right.

State Department and with Lend-Lease.

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May 19, 1943
3:15 p.m.

FINANCING

Present: Mr. Bell
MR. BELL: There is callable not later than June
15 for payment on October 15, 1943, a billion and four
hundred and one million dollars of three and a quarter
percent Treasury bonds.

We have to give four months' notice, and I assume we

ought to get ready to call them at that rate of interest,

coupon, three and a quarter percent. We wouldn't be justified in carry it over. They mature in 1945, which is two

years from October 25.

H.M.JR: The answer to Mr. Bell is yes.
MR. BELL: We will have to do some financing in July
in order to carry through to September. We will have to

do probably a two and a half billion dollar certificate

or note or bond issue in July, and that would carry us
into the first of September with five hundred and twenty-

eight million dollars, which is very low.

The first week in September is kind of bad, because
you cross Labor Day. The second week is bad because--

H.M.JR: You are really making me think today.

MR. BELL: I just kind of want to lay some plans so

that I can get you thinking about it a little, and at the
same time I want to do some work on the organization
problem, get busy with everybody else, and get up some
dope for you.

H.M.JR: Monday is the 6th - Labor Day.

34

-2MR. BELL: The better day would be the 13th, which
would be the following Monday, and then we run through to

October 1, I think.

H.M.JR: On the drive?
MR. BELL: Yes. Peabody agrees with that, because
the first week is bad. That means that we have to have a
little more money than the two and a half.

If we get a withholding tax and I can work out the

monthly payment, we may get some money in August. If I
cer't work out the monthly payment, and they go on a

quarterly basis, you won't get your income taxes until
October. They have three months in which to file a return and one month to pay it after they file a return,

which is bad.

That leads me up to this, which these fellows have
been pressing me a little about, and that is this Davies

organization or Charlie Taft's organization - I don't
know which it is. It coordinates all of these relief

drives for the President. They want October for that
other fund, and I told them I would have a conference with
them just as soon as I could. They said they would like

to have it next week. I told them I would if I could.

H.M.JR: Review this thing for me again. I didn't

get it the first time.

MR. BELL: You mean the financing?
H.M.JR: Yes.

MR. BELL: If we have two and a half billion dollars
bank financing in July, and assuming that we carry along
our Treasury bill program, that means going to a billion
dollars in- June - a billion dollars a week - we will have
five hundred and twenty-eight million dollars going into
September. Now that is hardly enough - that is no more

than two days' expenditure - to run us until the thirteenth.

35

-3-

H.M.JR: We could make the other thing three billion.

MR. BELL: That is right. These expenditures are on

an ascending scale, and they haven't been going up very
fast. We may pick up some money there.

It may be that if the withholding tax goes into effect

on July 1 and I can get it on a monthly payment basis,

which I am trying to do, instead of on a quarterly basis,
that will give us some money in August which will make the
five hundred million maybe a billion, see?

H.M.JR: Now let me ask you this: September is an

income tax date, isn't it?

MR. BELL: It will be normally. If we get a withholding tax, you will take it in under the withholding.
H.M.JR: Well, Mr. Bell, I would rather do my financing

in October.

MR. BELL: You would?

H.M.JR: Yes, sure.

MR. BELL: That means quite a bit of bank financing,
which seems to me might look a little bad to the public.
H.M.JR: I am not worried about that.

Now, last time the Red Cross did it in March, didn't
they?

MR. BELL: Yes.

H.M.JR: I don't want income tax and-MR. BELL: We did it in December, which didn't inter-

fere an awful lot. We certainly will have a withholding
tax, won't we, before September?

H.M.JR: Do we get the benefit of it?

36

-MR. BELL: We won't get the benefit of it, but it
will take the - well, if we can work out this arrangement
we have, we will get the benefit of part of it.

H.M.JR: This is the first time - not the first time I put a direct Federal Reserve phone and switched it from
the Federal Reserve to the Customs House, where I will be,
so I can pick up this phone and talk to you just as easy,

and I can talk to you from there to here. Let this thing
soak in. I will be talking to you the next couple of days.
What drive is this, anyway?
MR. BELL: The Community Chest drive, and I understand

they tentatively had assigned to them by the President the

month of October.

H.M.JR: They all got to give way.
MR. BELL: Aldrich said the Treasury wants October.

H.M.JR: Aldrich is it? If I knew it was Aldrich I
would do just what he didn't want.
MR. BELL: He was cooperative on this.

H.M.JR: My inclination is October.
MR. BELL: Would you want part of September and Octo-

ber? I hate to see so much bank financing in the meantime.
It looks like we are back on the old basis.
H.M.JR: You are going to have to do it anyway.

MR. BELL: But you are going to do a lot if you go to

October.

H.M.JR: Let's say we take September. Could you get
by December?

MR. BELL: It all depends on what the goal is. I
was hoping we could go to January.

37

-5H.M.JR: I definitely want to go to January.
MR. BELL: That is what I want to do. That means
that you have bank financing in January, and bank financing probably in November.

H.M.JR: Dan, don't ask me to make up my mind today.

MR. BELL: I am not definitely asking you, but I
have to talk to these people. They have to get out

their literature.

H.M.JR: Tell them you will let them know by the

end of next week.

MR. BELL: They have to lay their plans.
H.M.JR: By the end of next week you can force me to

make a decision.

MR. BELL: Rouse will be here the first of the week

to talk about this Treasury bill program that we tentatively
agreed will go up to a billion. He questions whether we
want to go to a billion, but he is coming down to talk
about it.

H.M.JR: I want to talk with you and Haas and those

fellows.

MR. BELL: I will have to have some conferences on
that next week. I don't suppose we can have an Open Mar-

ket Committee meeting on it. They didn't meet the last
time on the thing.
The other thing I would like to be discussing when

this other thing is over - be thinking about - the series

E Bond is worrying me quite a bit - the volume. There

were thirty million pieces of securities issued in the
month of April - up to the 8th of May - and that is a

volume which is beyond anything that we can handle. We

are accumulating a little out in Chicago.

38

-6-

H.M.JR: Way behind?

MR. BELL: Well, they are not way behind - they have
to be four months behind because they have to get these
things all over the country and put them into sequence.

H.M.JR: I think the E Bond thing is the greatest
thing that has happened.

MR. BELL: Yes, but when you come to registering

thirty million pieces in a month it is really a job. I
am wondering--

H.M.JR: That is just during the drive.
MR. BELL: I have talked to you before, and you

haven't been willing to do it. Would you think that we
might again discuss just inscribing the bond and not

registering it like we do tax notes?
H.M.JR: I don't know whether I am familiar with
that.

MR. BELL: A man goes in and buys a bond and it just

has his name and address written across it. That isn't
registered in the Treasury. The only record of it is on
the bond. Of course, the agency that issues it will have
a record, but we won't have a registered account of it -

that is, like we do now. It isn't protection, because

there can be forgeries which we might not always catch.

H.M.JR: Again you are putting a lot - I didn't know
you were going - this is all heavy stuff you are putting
to me today.

MR. BELL: Yes, and I can't delay a lot to begin
thinking about it.
H.M.JR: I would like to know what it costs - what it
costs per bond.
MR. BELL: How much per bond?

39

-H.M.JR: Yes, to print the bond, register it, and
all that.
MR. BELL: It isn't so much the cost; it is the manpower.

Do you know what we do in Chicago?

H.M.JR: I would like to know how many man hours I would like some facts.

MR. BELL: We take the person in and train him. We

have women working as mechanics in Chicago at the office.

H.M.JR: I would like some facts, the man hours, and

everything else that goes with it.

MR. BELL: That is quite a job. I can get up something

for you.

H.M.JR: Get me up something.

If you get anything out of me today, you are good.

MR. BELL: Well, I don't want to get up against the
gun and have to do something over night. I am getting to
the point where the volume is too big.

H.M.JR: All right, I would like some facts. Give

me the man hours and that kind of stuff.

MR. BELL: You have six thousand people in Chicago.
If you want man hours, you really have them.

H.M.JR: You have to give us some "horse" figures.

MR. BELL: We can't get anybody out there that is
trained. Everybody we take in has to be trained.

H.M.JR: I will be sympathetic to simplifying it. I

don't want to say yes now.

40

-8- -

MR. BELL: A lot of them recommended we knock out the

twenty-five-dollar bond. That certainly would take some
sales away. I think maybe if we would inscribe the thing it gives away some of the protection, there isn't any doubt
about it, but that would answer a lot of problems.
H.M.JR: Yes, sir.
MR. BELL: You asked me the other day--

H.M.JR: You are getting along fine. (Laughter)
MR. BELL: Yes, just where I was when I came in.
(Laughter)

You asked me the other day to get some work started
on getting from the county chairmen the kinds of schemes

they use to sell these bonds. I haven't gotten very far.
Peter Odegard wrote up three pages of questions, and
I had Peabody and George Haas' shop look it over. They
have come to the conclusion that these questions can't be

answered and tabulated. It is too big a job. A man has

to answer all kinds of questions. I just want to tell you
that that thing has been delayed. They think we ought to
talk to Likert and sort of combine it.
H.M.JR: Don't let the thing drag on.
MR. BELL: I wanted to tell you that I haven't done
anything - haven't accomplished anything. That is the
reason for the delay.

H.M.JR: Peter Odegard would slow it down.
MR. BELL: He wrote the questions.

H.M.JR: Why not turn it over to George Haas? You

don't need Likert; turn it over to George Haas.

MR. BELL: I did, and this is the conclusion that
they and Peabody came to, that we have to get Likert in
on this.

41

-9-

There is a letter that goes out to all of the people

who have been giving us statistics on the holdings of
securities in the last two years. That thanks them and asks
them to continue it, and it is sent to Loans and Currency
instead of to Haas.

H.M.JR: Is that what you want?

MR. BELL: That is what Haas wants. They didn't do any

of the work, anyhow. (Draft of letter to be sent to seven

thousand banks and insurance companies signed by the Secretary,
copy attached.)

H.M.JR: You got some action on that. (Laughter)
MR. BELL: Here is the Third Annual Report of the
Board of Trustees of the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance
Trust Fund. That is quite a document.

I don't know whether you recall it or not, but at the

meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Federal Old-Age
and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund Committee we agreed that

we would redeem, as we needed cash to meet benefit payments,

the three percent obligations held in that fund rather than

redeeming them and refunding them into two and a half
obligations.

H.M.JR: Don't explain it; let me sign it.
MR. BELL: No. We did, anyhow.

Now, the rate of interest - average rate on the public

debt - has dropped down to one and seven-eighths, which is
pretty damned low for this fund. We now have three hundred

and seventy-eight million of these three-percent obligations,
and they all mature on June 30.

Now, I want to hold those and take the current cash
that comes in and use it for benefit payments, and invest
any excess in the special one and seven-eighths. Then
this is a poll vote with your committees.

H.M.JR: Is it all right?
MR. BELL: I think it is fair to the Trust Fund.

42

- 10 -

H.M.JR: Gawd help you. I don't know what it is,

but if it is wrong-- (Laughter) (Letter addressed to

President of Senate and Speaker of House, dated January 2,

1943, transmitting report signed by the Secretary. Letters

to Arthur J. Altmeyer and Frances Perkins signed by the
Secretary, copies attached.)

MR. BELL: Well, you have got a vote of the committee.

The Office of Strategic Services wants to send two
Treasury representatives to Turkey, and they want them to
work with somebody over there to get information out of
the Balkans. They cleared it with the State Department,
and the reason they are asking the Treasury to do it is
they think the Treasury people would have a better standing, and it wouldn't look so funny to have them as it
would, say, to have a military attache, or somebody like
that.

Now, Harry and Luxford have discussed this with the
State Department, and I discussed it with this man and told
him to give us some more facts. They agree that it ought
to be done. Do you have. any objection to sending two
Treasury people?

Harry says he thinks he can dig up the two people if
you agree.

H.M.JR: Do I sign it?
MR. BELL: Just mark it O.K. to show that you have
seen it. (Memorandum dated May 14 addressed to Mr. Bell

initialed by the Secretary, copy attached.)

43

SECRET

May 14, 1943

Mr. D. W. Bell
lessrs. White and Luxford

Re: Office of Strategic Services
proposal re Turkey

In connection with the above matter, we suggest that
we recommend to the Secretary that we go along with the

O.S.S. proposal providing one of the two Treasury "repre-

sentatives" is actually a Treasury san.
In this connection, John W. Gunter of the Division of
Monetary Research is available for such an assignment and

has indicated his willingness to go. We think that it is
in the Department's interest to have a man in Turkey at this
time and that this opportunity should not be neglected.
As you know O.S.S. is most anxious to have E proupt

answer and this matter should be discussed with the
Secretary as soon as possible.

AFLtrrd - 5/14/48.

44

Dear Mr. Altaogers

AS a meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Federal 014-Age and
Survivers Insurance trust Fund, of which you are a member, held is the
office of the Secretary of the Treasury on December 7. 1939. the Board
agreed that investments after January 1, 1940 for account of the Fund
would be node is special public debt issues with rates of interest
provided for under the Social Security Act amoniments of 1939, and
that is order to meet benefit payments the Treasury would redeem the
35 obligations of the longest maturity held in the Fund and by this
method grainally reture the volume of 3% special obligations held is
the Fund.

This policy has been pursued since establishment of the Fund on
January 1, 1940, as the result of which the 3% special Treasury obli-

gations held by the Fund have been reduced to 8378, 200,000 as of

April 30, 1943. These notes nature on June 30, 1943. In the meantime the average interest rate on the outstanding public debt has been
reduced and the special obligations issuable to the Fund may now bear
a rate of only 1-7/85.

is view of this situation is is recommended that the policy
adopted on December 7. 1939 be changed; that benefit payments be

paid from taxes currently collected and appropriated to the Fund,
and that the balance of such appropriations to the Fund be invested
in special obligations or market issues as may be determined advisable
by the Secretary of the Treasury in accordance with the practice heretofore followed in making such investments.

In lies of calling a meeting of the Board of Trustees for the
approval of this recommendation, I - pelling the members by letter
and I shall be gird is you will indicate on the attached carbon of
this letter whether you approve this recommendation.

Very truly yours,

Secretary of the Treasury
and Managing Trustee of the
Federal 014-Age and Sar-

vivere Insurance Trust Fund
Senerable forther 3. Altwayer
Chairman, Social Security Board
Washington, D. a.

V2H:allb 5-14-43

45

Dear Investments

I should like to take this opportunity to thank you for

your continued cooperation in furnishing the Department with
statements of your heldings of Government securities each
month since my original request of March 1941. The survey of

ownership of Government securities based upon your reports and
similar reports from banks and insurance companies generally
has been of inestimable value in planning the tremendous war
financing operations which the Treasury Department has had to
undertake.

This survey will be handled in the future through the

Division of Loans and Currency of the Bureau of the Public

Debt instead of the Division of Research and Statistics. Subsequent requests for information will be forwarded to you from
that Division, and I am sure you will continue to extend the
same splendid cooperation afforded us in the past.

The schedule for May 31, 1943 is enclosed and it will be
appreciated if you will complete this schedule and return it
at your earliest convenience in the enclosed envelope which requires no postage.

Sincerely,

Secretary of the Treasury

New York, New York
Enclosurer
MFB:ad

5/18/43

46

My dear Nadam Secretary:

At a meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Federal 014-Age and
Survivors Insurance Trust Fund, of which you are a member. hold in the
office of the Secretary of the Treasury on December 7. 1939. the Board
agreed that investments after January 1. 1940 for account of the Fund
would be made in special public debt issues with rates of interest
provided for under the Social Security Act amoniments of 1939. and
that is order to meet benefit payments the Treasury would redeem the

35 obligations of the longest maturity hold in the Fund and by this

method gradually reduce the volume of 3% special obligations held in
the Fund.

This policy has been pursued since establishment of the Fund on
January 1. 1940, as the result of which the 3% special Treasury obligations held by the Fund have been reduced to $378,200,000 as of
April 30, 1943. These notes nature on June 30. 1943. In the meantime the average interest rate on the outstanding public debt has been
reduced and the special obligations issuable to the Fund may now bear a

rate of only 1-7/86.

In view of this situation is is recommended that the policy

adopted on December 7. 1939 be changed that benefit payments be

paid from taxes currently collected and appropriated to the Fund,
and that the balance of such appropriations to the Fund be invested
in special obligations or market issues as may be determined advisable
by the Secretary of the Treasury in accordance with the practice heretofore followed in making such investments.

In lion of calling a meeting of the Board of Trustees for the
approval of this recommendation, I an polling the members by letter
and I shall be gind if you will indicate on the attached carbon of
this letter whether you approve this reconsendation.
Very truly yours,

Secretary of the Treasury

and Managing Trustee of the
Federal Old-Age and Sur-

vivers Insurance Trust Read
Honorable Frances Perkins

Secretary of Labor

Washington, D. c.

WTHsmlb 5-14-43

47 May 19, 1943
3:57 P. M.
HMJr:

Hello.

Don

Gustin:

Yes.

HMJr:

Mr. Gustin?

0:

Yes.

HMJr:

I was anxious to talk to Senator Hayden, but I'm
going out of town in a couple of minutes and I think
he'd like to have this message. Hello.

G:

HMJr:

Yes. Uh huh.

Would you tell him that Mr. Gaston and I have decided to send over the name of Wirt Bowman for
collector at Nogales, Arizona?

G:

Yeah. I'll certainly tell him that, Mr. Morgenthau.

HMJr:

And I know he'll be pleased.

G:

All right, sir. Thank you a great deal.

HMJr:
G:

You tell him that.
I'11 do that.
Goodbye.

May 19, 1943
3:59 P. M.
HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Senator McFarland.

HMJr:

All right. Hello.

Sen. Ernest

McFarland: Hello.
HMJr:

Senator McFarland?

McF:

Yes.

HMJr:

Morgenthau.

McF:

Oh, yes, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

McF:

Senator, I think you'11 be pleased to know that

Mr. Gaston and I have decided to send the name of
Wirt Bowman over at the White House for collector
of customs at Nogales.

Well, that's very nice of you, Mr. Secretary. I
sure appreciate it.

HMJr:

I - I thought you'd like to know about it

McF:

Well, that's very nice of you.
and....

HMJr:
McF:

Say, incidentally, before you leave the line

HMJr:

Yeah.

McF:

I'm very much interested in your - in your
banking - international banking plan.

HMJr:

Are you?

McF:

I've - I had kind of drafted out a little rough

HMJr:

Yeah.

McF:

draft of one myself

which wasn't nearly as complete, of course, as
yours

HMJr:

Uh huh.

48

-McFi

but - but to me that ie one of the most

important things that should be made in our

post-war plannings.
HMJr:

Why, I'd love to sit down with you sometime.

McF:

Well, I - I would like to do that. If - they can

HMJr:

Yeah.

all talk about policing the world

and all of that, which 1e fine

McF:

HMJr:

Yeah.

McF:

now understand, I am not opposed to that. I I think that we've got to do some form of policing

HMJr:

Yeah.

McF:

but, 88 you well know, the real cause of the
war is - is that there is - is commerce of one nature

or another
HMJr:
McF:

Yeah.

and - and that - that scheme of an international
bank should, if worked out properly -- and I know

you've given it a lot of study

HMJr:

Yeah.

McF:

....it should eleminate some of the causes of the

war, and
HMJr:

Well, Senator, when you've got time you might - would
you drop by some morning on the way up to the Senate?

McF:

I'11 - I'11 do that.

HMJr:

And any time that is convenient for you.

McF:

That's very nice. I'11 be glad to.

HMJr:

Thank you, Senator.

McF:

Thank you very kindly.

HMJr:

Goodbye.

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50

May 19, 1943

MEMORANDUM

About 6:30 last night I called un Harry Hopkins
and reminded him that on the train going uo to Hyde
Park a month ago with the President he said that he
would see that Ruml was removed as being a member of

the Advisory Committee of the National Resources
Board and also 8.8 a member and advisor to Nelson

Rockefeller. He admitted that he had forgotten all
about it, and he said he would go right at it. And
I want to watch him to see if he does anything, and
if he doesn't I'll remind him again next week.

51

MAY 19 1943

My dear Senator Connally:

Because I have been out of

town a good deal lately, I am necessarily
somewhat belated in writing you to express
my appreciation of your support of our
opposition to the Ruml-Carlson amendment

to the House tax bill. Incidentally, I
enjoyed reading your speeches in the Record,
particularly the first speech in which I
think you were at your very best.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan. Jr

Hon. Tom Connally,

United States Senate.

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MAY 19 1943

My dear Senator LaFollette:

I am writing a short note to

express our appreciation in the Treasury

of your gallant fight against the

Ruml-Carlson amendment to the House tax

bill. Your speech at the close of the

debate was the clearest exposition of the

issues involved that could have been made,
and people who were in attendance in the

gallery tell me that it must have had a
good deal of influence on the voting.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Hon. Robert M. LaFollette, Jr.,
United States Senate.

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MAY 19 1943

My dear Senator Byrd,

I was very much interested to
note that you spoke at great length, and

I am told very effectively, against the

Ruml-Carlson amendment to the House tax

bill. I need hardly tell you how much the
Treasury appreciates your support in this
critical matter.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Hon. Harry F. Byrd,
United States Senate.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

May 19, 1943

Randolph Paul

In view of your interest in tax relief for
members of the armed forces, especially those dying

in the service, I believe you will be interested in
the attached summary of the provisions of the House

and Senate bills in this regard.
The conferees will, of course, have to decide

what final provisions will be adopted.

Attachment

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Soldiers' and sailors' relief under the
House and Senate pay-as-you-go bills

Both the House and Senate bills contain relief provisions
for members of the armed forces. Each bill contains two types
of relief; (1) for those dying in active service; and (2) for
all members, an additional exemption for service pay. On
recommendations from the Treasury, the Senate bill eliminated
certain inequities from the House bill.

1. Relief for those dying in active service
Under the House bill all income taxes unpaid by a member
of the armed forces at date of death were abated. The Senate

bill made three changes: (1) it abates only the taxes which

became due and payable after the date of induction or the
date of the Selective Service Act, September 16, 1940, whichever is later: (2) it abates only that part of the taxes
attributable to earned net income and does not abate the taxes

attributable to unearned income; and (3) it provides for a

refund of any taxes which were paid, if such taxes would have
been abated had they not been paid.
The House bill made no provision for refunding taxes paid
before death and thus discriminated against those servicemen
who kept up their tax payments. Furthermore, the House bill
would have extended relief for as many years as the servicemen
were delinquent in their taxes, whereas, under the Senate bill,
the relief does not go back beyond the taxes due and payable

after the Selective Service Act.

2. Additional exemption for service pay
Personnel below the grade of a commissioned officer now

receive an additional exemption of service pay of $250 for a
single person and $300 for a married person. Both the House
and Senate Bills raise the amounts of this additional exemption
and both Bills make the additional exemption available to all
members of the armed forces, irrespective of rank.
The House Bill increased the additional exemption for

service pay to $3500 which amount is however reduced by the per-

sonal exemption. This additional relief was made retroactive
to all service pay received after December 31, 1941. The Senate
Bill made two changes in the House Bill: (i) it lowered the
additional exemption to a flat amount of $1500 which however, is
not reduced by personal exemption; and (2) the additional relief
is made applicable only to taxable years beginning after

December 31, 1942.

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-2The relief under the House Bill discriminated against
married persons since the additional exemption was to be reduced by the personal exemption. Since the personal exemption

is higher for a married person than for a single person the
amount of the additional relief under the House Bill for a
married person 18 less than for a single person. The relief

under the Senate Bill continues the present more favorable
treatment of a married person as compared with a single person.

May 19, 1943

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May 19, 1943.

Dear Mr. Surrey:

I have just been informed that your draft

status has been changed from 3A to LA and that,

unless some action is taken to prevent it, we will
have to anticipate the probability that you will
be inducted into the armed forces soon.

It would be farthest from my thoughts to wish
to deprive you of the honor of military service while
our country is at war, but on the other hand I believe you would want to serve in the pout where you

can be most useful. It is my jadgment that for the
time being and until this year's tax legislation is
completed that post is the one you now occupy, Tax

Legislative Counsel to the Treasury Department It
would be totally impossible to replace VOT quickly

with anyone having anything like adoquata experience

in this field, and the situation is further compli-

cated by recent losses in your division which have

denuded it of experienced men.

I have therefore determined to ask your draft
board to defer you on occupational grounds for a
period of six months and it is my hope that you

will, even at sacrifice of your own inclinations

and desires, consent to remain and to carry on your

present work for at least that period.

Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.
Mr. Stanley S. Surrey
Tax Legislative Counsel
Treasury Department
Washington, D.C.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
FISCAL SERVICE
WASHINGTON

BUREAU OF ACCOUNTS
THE COMMISSIONER

May 19,1943
TO THE SECRETARY:

Participation of Treasury Department
employees on Pay-roll Savings Plan
April 1943
Number on roll

73,844
70,215

Number participating
Percent

95.1%

Gross monthly pay roll (including
overtime)

Monthly alletment for bonds

$15,629,533
1,647,271

Percent

10.5%

Your employees are doing all right.

Departmental Chairman

PORVICTORY

BUY
STATES

WAR

BONDS

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May 19, 1943
Ted Gamble

Secretary Morgenthau

I think you ought to begin to build your organization,
and I wish you would talk to me about it. If there are any
particularly good men in the field, I wish you would bring
them in as your assistants. I think you ought to have two
or three very strong assistants. Please speak to me about

it. Panished

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May 19, 1943.

Dear Stuart:

Now that your status has chanced from that

of a full-time worker on war financing in the
Tr 'ssury to the role of adviser 05 special prob-

lems that will be coming up from time to time,
I want to express my very real gratitude for the
fine help you gave to the Treasury and to me

during the Second War Loan Drive.

As Head Advertising Specialist you have

handled the difficult matters with which you had

to deal in & thoroughly efficient way. I appreciate greatly the fine loyalty and devotion you

displayed, which have made it a continuous pleasure

for all of us to work with you.

I am happy that you are able and generously

willing to continue to give us the benefit of your

advice and experience.

Sincerely,
(Signed) H Morganthan. Jy

Secretary of the Treasury.

Mr. Stuart Peabody
The Borden Company
350 Madison Avenue

New York, New York.

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May 19, 1943

Dear Mr. Edson:

In reviewing the activities of all

those who helped us in the promotion of
the Second War Loan, it is apparent that
no one did more enthusiastic and effective
work than the representatives of the Press
and Feature Services here in Washington.

We are grateful to you, and I would
appreciate your passing on to your staff

our sincere thanks.

Sincerely,

(Signed) H. Mergenthav, Jr

Secretary of the Treasury

Mr. Peter Edson,
Newspaper Enterprise Association,

1013 Thirteenth Street, N. W.,
Washington, D. C.

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May 19, 1943

Dear Mr. Wilson:

In reviewing the activities of all
those who helped us in the promotion of
the Second War Loan, it is apparent that
no one did more enthusiastic and effective
work than the representatives of the Press
and Feature Services here in Washington.

We are grateful to you, and I would
appreciate your passing on to your staff
our sincere thanks.

Sincerely,

(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Mr. Lyle C. Wilson,

Chief of Bureau,

National United
Press Building,
Association,
Press

Washington, D.C.

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May 19, 1943

Dear Mr. Miller

In reviewing the activities of all

those who helped us in the promotion of
the Second War Loan, it is apparent that
no one did more enthusiastic and effective
work than the representatives of the Press
and Feature Services here in Washington.

We are grateful to you, and I would
appreciate your passing on to your staff

our sincere thanks.

Sincerely,

(Signed) H. Morgenthan, 3r

Secretary of the Treasury

Mr. Paul Miller,
Chief of Bureau,
Associated Press,

Evening Star Building,
Washington, D. C.

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May 19, 1943

Dear Mr. Ralph:

In reviewing the activities of all

those who helped us in the promotion of
the Second War Loan, it is apparent that
no one did more enthusiastic and effective
work than the representatives of the Press
and Feature Services here in Washington.

We are grateful to you, and I would
appreciate your passing on to your staff
our sincere thanks.

Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasur

Mr. Henry D. Ralph,
Room 1224,

National Press Building,
Washington, D. C.

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May 19, 1943

Dear Mr. Helms

the activities of all

who us in the

those In reviewing
helped
promotion
that of
War Loan,
it is
apparent
more anthusiastic

the no one Second did and of effective the Press

work than the representatives

and Feature Services here in Washington.

We are grateful to you, and I would
appreciate your passing on to your staff
our sincere thanks.

Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Mr. William P. Helm,
United States News,
2201 M Street, Northwest,
Washington, D. C.

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86BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE
OFFICE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
WASHINGTON D.C.

May 19, 1943.

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury.
Dear Mr. Secretary:

Enclosed are the minutes of the meetings of the Board
of Economic Warfare which were held on March 11 and May 6, 1943.

If there are any corrections which you care to suggest,
please let me know.

Sincerely yours,

Mile
Perian
Executive Director
Enclosures

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Minutes of the Meeting of the Board of Econo Warfare
Held March 11, 1943 at 10:00 a. m.

A meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare was held in the Vice President's
Office in the Capitol Building at 10:00 a. m. on March 11, 1943.
Those present at the meeting were:

The Vice President, Chairman of the Board
Mr. R. P. Patterson, representing the Secretary of War
Mr. Adlai Stevenson, representing the Secretary of the Navy
Mr. L. A. Wheeler, representing the Secretary of Agriculture
Mr. Wayne Taylor, representing the Secretary of Commerce
Mr. Arthur Van Buskirk, representing the Administrator,

Lend Lease Administration

Also present at the meeting were:
Mr. E. G. Collado, State Department
Mr. Harold H. Neff, War Department

Dr. W. Y. Elliott, War Production Board

Mr. E. M. Burnstein, Treasury Department

Mr. John McClintock, Office of Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs
Dr. Herbert Feis, State Department
Mr. Milo Perkins, Board of Economic Warfare
Mr. E. W. Gaumnitz, Board of Economic Warfare

Mr. A. F. Luxford, Treasury Department
The Vice President announced that he was leaving for South America on
March 16 and would be away for about six weeks. He suggested that during
his absence regular Board meetings not be scheduled but if necessary
meetings would be called by the Executive Director at the request of any
Board member.

Axis Shipping in the Mediterrenean
The Vice President requested Mr. Perkins to comment on the report, "Sum-

mary of Axis Shipping Situation in the Mediterranean", copies of which
were made available at the meeting. Mr. Perkins pointed out that a continuation of the rate of sinkings would me an the virtual elimination of
Axis shipping in the Mediterranean in about three months. While total
elimination of Axis shipping was of course not to be expected, discussion
served to emphasize the importance of drestically reduced shipping, per-

ticularly on the ability of the Axis to maintain troops in North Africa.

Lend-Lease- BEW Agreement

Mr. Perkins stated that he and Mr. Van Buskirk wished to report on the progress made between the Office of Lend Lease Administration and the Board
of Economic Warfare with reference to various problems of administration

involving the two agencies. He referred particularly to the February 16
letter signed jointly by himself and Mr. Stettinius, copies of which had been

made available.

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Briefly, he stated that the agreements between the two agencies had served

could appreciate the interest of the Department of Africulture in connection
with any development of food supplies in a foreign country. On the one
hand w1 th an increasing general food shortage, it was important that this
government take as strong 0 position as possible in the development of foreign
food supplies. It was also recognized that there might be criticism of programs directed towards the development of foreign food supplies by those
interested in the production of competing domestic food items.

to clarify jurisdictional questions. It vas indicated that the division

of countries as between Lend Lease and B. E. " WAS made primarily on the
basis of relative volume of Lend Lease and commercial shipments, although
the countries in which there vas active fighting were generally assigne
to Lend Lease at present. It was pointed out that through on arrangement
with the "for Production Roard one of the two agencies presents the program
for exportation to the Mar Production Roard, including exports under Lend
Lease as well 60 those by private exporters. It was emphasized that overall country programs were now being developed on a basis similar to that
which has been in effect for Latin American countries with joint review
country programs. The necessity for closer screening and coordination of
commodity programs and shipping programs made it desirable that country
information be more comprehensive under the `greement between Lend Lease

Mr. Wheeler stated that the Department of Agriculture was not hesitating in
the support of food developmental work wherever prectical. It was also
suggested that full consideration should be given to the possibility of developing and procuring food supplies even though the shipping situation would
not allow immediate shipment, such action of course to be limited to commdities which could be stored.

of

and 9. Arrongements were being made for foreign personnel with

both agencies being represented where both were involved in shipment.

There was considerable discussion of the affect on production of the apparent
policy of the Combined Boards in recommending division of the world as between Great Britain and the U. S. for procurement and developmental purposes,
both for food and non-food items.

Mr. Van Buskirk stated that reciprocal aid, mentioned in the third paragraph of the Hemorondum of Agreement of February 16, 1943, was still 0
subject for further discussion. Mr. Porkins pointed out that from some
points of view it was desirable in countries where Lend-Lesso was being
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extended that payments for imports be handled by Reverse Lend Lease. A
danger, however, in such procedure WOB that the foreign government would
then tend to become the procurement agency and might bo inclined to be
loss aggressive than would be the 0080 with purchasos being mide directly
by U. S. representatives.

Mr. Elliott raised the question 08 to payment for goods which were stockpiled in a foreign country where produced, questioning the desirability of

which received 8 part of their goods under Lend Lessc. For North Africa
Mr. Van Ruskirk pointed out that through the North African Economic Board
on which both Land Leese and 3. E. W. were represented the situation was
such that both development and supplies could be closely coordinated. Hr.

Mr. Theolor roised the question of whether the acmo division of countries
for the purpose or the determination of requirements and presentation to
the W. P. B. was in effect with reference to food and also roised the
question as to the position of the Foreign Relief and Rehabilitntion
Division of the Department of State. Answoring Mr. Wheeler, Mr. Porkins
stated that the division of countries with reference to food was the some
ns for other motoriels. It wns also indicated that the Relief and Rehabilitation Division had thus for presented no requirements although the
status of that Division and its relationship to requirements wns not clear.
Mr. Vsn Buskirk stated that shipments to North Africa had boon limited to
those items quantition approved by General Eisonhomor's stoff. Ho
assumed that the Reliof and Rohabilitation Division would be concerned
particularly with the distributive phases in the North African area.

Wheeler doubted whether the North African organization would most the pro- would
blem, suggesting that a trading company which could both buy and sell problem
be necessary. Other members of the Board, however, thought that
could be handled through the U. S. Commercial Company.
Mr. Fois stated that the question of procurement and development was that prim- the

orily a motter of internel U. S. organization It was his feeling countries ro-

S. bed been somewhat lacking in aggressive action in some for

U. gordless of whether those countries had been allocated to the British

procurement and development purposes. He pointed out that North Africa and that was in

now open to the U.S., that West Africa had boon open for sometime, the stimulethe Bolgium Congo the U. S. had been party to on arrangement for secure

Mr. Perkins also pointed out, with reference to North Africa, that the

tion of cobalt production. He therefore observed that failure to aggres- rather
sive action was quite definitely immobility on the part of U. S. agencies

volume of foodstuffs produced and procured would be dependent in part upon
the shipment of consumer goods to that area. If consumer goods were in-

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Several members indicated their feeling that such division of area tended to
result in less aggressive action than would be the case otherwise. Dr.
Elliott stated that more aggressive action would probably be secured if
U. S. reprementatives were stationed in countries which had been allocated
to the British for procurement purposes. Dr. Elliott also stated that
trade was more and more a matter of barter, so that it was important that
procurement and development be closely related to supplies being shipped
from the U. S. This would of course mean a close programming of supplies
as botween Lend Leese and the Board of Economic Yerfare for those countries

such payment.

portant, it would of course require a close cooperation in the handling of bo
purchases within the area and shipments to the area. Hr. Perkins stated that

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Minutes of the Meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare
Held May 6. 1943 at 10:00 a. n.

than 8 matter of being foreclosed by ellocation of territory to the British,
Dr. Elliott stated that his generalization was based on specific instances
those instances léd him to believe that where the British were designated as and
sole purchasers, efforts to increase production were passive. He referred

A meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare was held in the Vice President's
office in the Capitol Building at 10:00 a. m. on May 6, 1943.

to pyrethrum, sisal, and shelloc. Mr. Wheeler stated that the territorial

allocation problem had also been one with which the Combined Food Board had
struggled nd stated that he would like to see some procedure worked out under
which any cirency designated as sole purchaser would not be open to criticism
for lack of aggressive action by the agency not designated.

Those present:

The Vice President, Chairman of the Board
Mr. Dean-Acheson, representing the Secretary of State
Mr. Harry White, representing the Secretary of the Treasury

Mr. Fois indicated that in the enso of Spain, Portugal or Turkey concurrent
action has been secured on c coordinated basis and Dr. Elliott sugrested
that the possibility of extending that type of arrengement should be explored.

Mr. R. Patterson, renresentine the Secretary of War

The Secretary of the Navy
The Secretary of Agriculture
Mr. Wayne Taylor, representing the Secretary of Commerce Affairs
Mr. Nelson A. Rockefeller, Coordinator of Inter-American
Fr. Donald 11- Nelson, Chairman, War Production Board
Mr. Bernhard Knollenberg, representing Administrator.
Lend Lease
Administration

The Vico President suggested that it might be desirable to have n sub-conmittoo report on the problems involved in area cllocation, including a rocapitulation of the possibilities of development and procurement, DS wall
08 to suggest the procedure to bo followed in determining ellocations.
The meeting adjourned at 11:05 A. 1.

In addition, the following nersons were present:
Mr. Winfield Riefler, Board of Economic Tarfare
Mr. T. L. Clavton, Department of Commerce

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Mr. Adlai Stevenson. Navy Department
Mr. Harold H. Neff, War Department
Mr. Herbert Feis, State Department

L. A. Wheeler, Department of Agriculture
Mr. Mr. John Lockwood, Office of Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs
Mr. William Batt, Tar Production Board
Mr. John W. Pehle. Treasury Department
Mr. John Lovitt, State Department
Mr. Henry Labourese, State Department
Mr. Milo Perkins, Board of Economic Marfare
Mr. E. w. Goumnitz. Board of Economic Warfare
Mr. W. T. Stone, Foard of Economic Warfare

Vice President announced that Mr. winfield Riefler. our working Minister clonely of

Economic The Warfare. American Embasty in London, who has been report.
on blockade matters was present and prepered to make A progress
Riefler reviewed briefly the backeround of blockada the work nolicy with reference pursued

Mr. the neutrals within the blockade arcn. statine that Nations and the
had to been that of securine maximum sunplies for the United indirectly.
minimum of assistance and supplies to the Axis directly or

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Sweden

Mr. Riefler referred to the Board resolution of last November 12 relating
to trade with Sweden. In conformity with that resolution 11. S. representstives had been abroad checking into the factual material. He stated that
the authorities in Sweden had made data freely available and that upon the
commletion of that work Smedish representatives were invited to London for
the purpose of negotiating a new agreement with the British and U. S. representatives. In general the objective of the U. S.- 11. K. authorities
TBS to reduce as for as possible Swedish assistance to the Axis, increase
or maintain assistance to the U. S. and 11. K. The U. S. pronosal is in
the direction of supplying so-called basic rations in return for the complete elimination of Smedish credit to Germany, e limitation of iron ore
shipments on A ratio besis with the conl received from Germany, a reduction
of Smedish exports to any other of the blockaded countries to the minimum
absolutely necessary for barter purposes, and a stoonege or reduction of
the Germen trensit traffic. Mr. Riefler reported that on the matter of
German transit traffic the Swedes have Agreed that rather than having it
included in the formal agreement they would prefer to have it understood
that the rest of the agreement be based on the elimination of German tran-

sit traffic. In the event that it were not eliminated -- mould be at 11-

berty to modify the Agreement. In response to questions, Mr. Riefler pointed
out that the Gothenburg traffic TBB stopped by Germany After S-eden being
pressed by the U. S. and Britain Agreed to release two Normagion shine nt
Gothenburg.

Mr. White"pointed out that the decision in that case reated finally with

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Germeny.

Mr. Riefler noted. however, that Smedom ms in effect under n double blockade. so that while both Germen and the United Nations had certain negative
nomer. neither me in a position to control Smodish trade completely It
"OB generally agreed that Sreed "AS by no means P from agent, -88 attempting to avoid German invesion. but mas dependent on both Germany and the

United Nations for certain sunnlies, end "ne in n nosition to bergain within limits of possibly 15 to 20% It - also agreed that German leverage
"DE greater then that of the United Nations.
Mr. Riefler pointed out that from n United Nations standpoint, adventages
have been gained from Smoden during the last year. 1. e. since the German
invesion of Norvey, the Sredes have metrolled the S-edich const and have
convoyed their own vessels with Germon shipe no longer allowed to join the
convoy, the Smedish natrol apparently being directed at the possibility of
R sudden German invosion. Without the oil which TRS going to Smoden for
use of the Sredish Navy, Smoden could be stopped from A continuation of its
metrol. Furthermore, Smeden 188 increasing its outnut of military sunplies,
which supplier more being used entirely by the Smedish Army and Nevy. Actuelly the Smedish armed forces has been built un to about 600,000 men. It
is recognized that while Smeden TBS in no position to successfully resist
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German invasion, on the other hand an attempted invnsion would undoubtedly

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Switzerland

be not with resistance. Mr. Riefler pointed out also that if Germany had

foremeon the devolonments of the last year in Sweden Germany would undoubt.
edly have occuried Smeden following the Normagian cambien.

with reference to Switzerland, Mr. Riefler stated that in 1941 the British
had limited shipments to Switzerland through the blockade to food and fodder and had attempted to secure an agreement limiting Swiss products 20ing to Germany, mainly, arms and machinery. In 1942 - entered the negotintione through the Blockade Committee. Our objectives were the same as
those of Britain in attempting to secure a reduction of arms and machinery.

Discussion devoloned that trade "ith Smedom TO of sone importance. Certain
items not important from a tonnage basis mere of considerable importance.
particularly such items es ball benrings and spare parts for Sundish equinment. Mr. Nelson pointed out that while the U. S. TOB nom supplyine England with n mejor nortion of ite machine tools and parts, the procurement
of remair parts from Smedon for Smedish machines in England TAS of conside

Last June we began to cut supplies although we did continue to allow certain
products to go through the blockade. securine mainly machine tools which
were going to Russia, Britain and the United States. In terms of tonnage
we had not secured a very lerge volume.

emble importance in relieving U. S. industry. Mr. Batt also indicated
that
the
United
could
sunnly verious types and sizes of boar
inge while
it could
add
to theStates
domestic
burden.

In July it appeared that the negotiations were making progress. As negotiations proceeded. however, it became amparent that the Swiss, however, were
stalling. In December negotiations were broken by the S-iss leaving London
and returning to Switzerland. In January of this year Germany asked for on
increase in materials from S-itzerland and the Smiss refused, negotiations
being broken off. About three weeks ago Germany reduced the coal supply
going to S-itzerland and it then anpeared that the Swiss pronosed to complete deliveries on old German contracts, agree to A net rate of sunnly
somewhat less than the rate contained in the old agreement and grant new
credits in return for German assurances in regard to conl shipments. A
review of the pronosal disclosed that under it the Stiss would increase P.O.

It TAB agreed that Germany "AS of course procurine anterials, principally
iron and
which oro
of grent importance And any increase in sunnly
would
be steel
in Germany's
interest.
Mr. Perkins reviewed the action of the Bonrd at its meeting in November,
nt which time n program had been outlined under which me mere to attempt
to gain the objectives reviewed by Mr. Richler in his introductory statement and in return for which TO more to agree to the sunnly of so-called
basic rations. The matter had been referred to the Chiefe of Staff, who
had agreed that the should proceed with items P. to 1. of that November
posn1. be but that the Chiefs of Staff had suggested that no further oil should pro-

tunl deliveries over deliveries last year. As n result of the new develop-

&

shipped until definite concessions had been secured from Smeden. Finally
however, tro tenkers of oil had been allowed to go without concessions
having been received, nlthough followine the relense of the tankers,
THE found impossible for the Norregian shine to smil, and the Gothenbune it
traffic -BB cut by the Germans so that the more in about the same position
on in November so far as negotiations term concerned. At the same time
PM military successes gren and the mosition of Germany beenme relatively
meaker, it appeared that the in S. pressure should be increased. With

ment B. note has been prepared for delivery to the Smiss protestine the
processed agreement with Germany and informing the Swiss that All navicerts
end export licenses will be suspended 14 drys after presentation of the note
pending clarification of their relationships -ith Germany.

Discussion developed the fact that Switzerland PAS supplying things of naterinl value to Germany. that goods going through the blocknde were of importance and that certain supplies which TO were receiving from S-itzerland
were of great importance. The only direct leverage "as that of food supplies. f1Mr. Pehle stated that Treasury had great difficult ty in determining the
nancial manimulations of the Sriss and more receiving little cooneration

diminished. strengthened Smedish position. the probability of German invasion would n be

with the Stiss in clarifying the credit situation.

There ment from the some discussion of the hossibility of Attemptine to got n commit-

It TOS clear that the situation with reference to S-itzerland in more then
it has been at any time. with the next move being un to the S-iss.

forces move Sweden into with that aren. reference It TRS to resistance agreed, teken shoulditthat would
United Nationa'
be

difficult to got n consitment which would be homever. binding.

Sprin and Portugal

There THE general forling there should be e continuation if negotiations
along the lines previously outlined. this opinion not
however, Mr. Patterson particularly notine that the being unanimous

Mr. Riefler pointed out that the blockede problem with reference to Spain
and Portugal van much less pressing than -1 th Sreden and Sritzerland. The
trada with these countries is regulated under surnly-purchase Agreements
which have been reasonably satisfactory. These programs are designed to
secure those goods which are preempting from the enemy. such P.S "olfrem,

any traffic with Smoden 08 lone " it TAB eiving any Army support -BE opposed to Germany. to

-3<

,

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skins and woolen goods and those needed for supply reasons by the United

Nations and on the other hand to furnish for political and military reasons
goods needed to maintain FL minimum wartime economy. He pointed out parti-

cularly the importance of volfram to Germeny and also that with reference
to Spain and Portugal the objective "RS to reduce German credits. Last
fall it appeared that progress VIP.S being made on the credit problem but
unon German occupation of all of France, Spain continued its credits. At
the present time the situation looks somewhat better. There FAS some discussion of the volume of goods being redeived from Spain relative to the
volume being supplied, the ratio for the last half of 1942 being quite
favorable in terms of dollars.
Mr. Patterson raised the
tion as to the control of betroleum being
supplied end Mr. Riefler dedicated that he believed control WAS quite satisfactory.

Mr. Feis raised the question AS to the completeness of the statistical information on oil.

It as also developed that Salezar of Portugal "PS a particularly hard bargniner who ves interested in his country, greatly concerned with its position and somewhat resentful because it was not possible for him to build
un stocks for price control purposes.
With reference to Spain, it was indicated that while Franco was pro-German,
Germany had not been delivering promised supplies, so that the position of
those elements in Spain favorable to the United Nations was being strengthened by supplies being made available through the blockede.
The meeting adjourned at 11:40 A. M.

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MAY 19 1943

Your Excellency:

I am very happy to learn of the interest
the Holy See is taking in the plight of the
Jewish people in Europe. I am confident that
your continuing interest through the difficult
times ahead will alleviate a great deal of
human suffering and misery.

With kindest personal regards, I remain
Most sincerely yours,
(Signed) Henry Morseathen. Jr.

To His Excellency,

The Most Reverend Amlete Giovanni Cioognani, D.D.,
3339 Massachusetts Avenue, Northwest,
Washington, D. C.

JLS:eh TS

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APPOSTOLIC DELECATION

3339 Massachusetts Avenue

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Washington, D.C.

N° 581/42

May 15, 1943

THIS NO SHOULD BE PREFIXED TO THE ANSWER

My dear Mr. Secretary:

Mr. Myron Taylor recently presented to
me a copy of a memorandum written by a certain Doctor Erwin
Taussig on the conditions prevailing among interned Jewish

civilians in Italy, informing me at the same time that the

memorandum had also been forwarded to you on the request of

the writer.

Since the memorandum suggests the intervention of the
Holy See, both to impede the deportation of these unfortunate

people to Poland, and to obtain their transfer to other territories in the Near East, Africa or South America, I wish to
assure you that the Holy See is constantly using its good
offices on behalf of these victims of the war and of racial

persecution.

In fact, late in December 1942 His Eminence, Cardinal
Maglione, Secretary of State, asked me to assure Rabbi Rosenberg of New York, in response to an appeal of the Union of
Orthodox Rabbie of America and Canada, that the Holy See was

continuing to do everything possible for the Jewish people

of Germany.

More recently, in March 1943, the Royal Yugoslav Embassy
in Washington presented the sad case of 15,000 Yugoelav Jews

interned in Italy, and in imminent danger of transfer to Poland,

About the same time Mr. Taylor, on request of Doctor Stephen S.
Wise, asked the intercession of the Holy See on behalf of Jewish
internees.

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury

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Late in March I received Rabbis Silverstone, Kalmanowitz,
and Metz, and in conformity to their request, as on each of
the previous occasions I communicated with His Eminence Cardinal
Maglione, stressing the need for immediate and effective action
to impede the deportation of Jewish internees from Italy.

On at least four different occasions, in these last few

months, I have received responses from His Eminence assuring

me, and asking me to inform the interested parties, that the
Holy See has done and continues to do everything in its power
to alleviate the suffering and distress of these people, and
to prevent their falling into even worse circumstances.
While His Eminence has not given me detailed accounts

of the measures taken, I can assure you that every slightest
opportunity is seized to help these unfortunates. of course
the transportation of these people to other countries meets
with many difficulties, but in this field too the Holy See
has effectively helped and facilitated the emigration of many
Jewish refugees from Europe.

I have written the foregoing that you might be apprised
of the humanitarian work that the Holy See has done in the
past, and will strive to do in the future for all victims of
the war and of racial prejudice. If any case should come to
your attention, wherein the assistance of the Holy See may be
of good service, please do not hesitate to call upon me and

I shall cooperate to the fullest.

With the assurances of my highest consideration and of
my deep personal regard, I beg to remain
Yours very sincerely,

Archbishop of Laodicea
g Economics
Apostolic Delegate

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Frances McCathran

May 19, 1943

CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES BEFORE CONGRESS

1. Tax: Pay-As-You-Go - By a vote of 202 to 194 the House
yesterday turned down Representative Knutson's motion that

House conferees be specifically instructed to accept in
a joint conference with senators the Senate-approved Ruml
Plan. This third House defeat for the Ruml Plan lets
Representatives Doughton, Cooper, Disney, Dingell, Knutson,
Reed, and Jenkins, the conferees, go to conference without
their hands tied and free to work out a compromise on the
differing House and Senate versions. Much of the House
debate yesterday centered around whether the President intends
to veto the Ruml Plan, if it is sent to him. Representative
Doughton claimed the President's statement that he could
"not acquiesce" in skipping a whole year's taxes could mean
only that he had every intention of vetoing such a measure,
but Representative Knutson replied equally heatedly that
this phrase could mean the President, while not agreeing,
would let the bill become law without his signature. But
whether the House was convinced by Doughton's argument or

not, general consensus of opinion is that the influence of
the President's letters to Representative Doughton and Senator George swung enough of the "borderline cases" to the

Majority party to deal what is generally believed to be the
knockout blow for the Ruml Plan. But although the leading
conferees from both the House and Senate, consistently

opposed to skipping a full year's taxes, will probably see
that the Ruml Plan does not emerge from the conference,
chances of a compromise may be equally deadlocked for, as
Edward Ryan observes in the Washington Post this morning,

"there is no clear majority for anything. The joint con-

ference is expected to meet on the problem after the Senate
Finance Committee has voted on the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act, which they are expected to do some time today.

2. Deficiency Appropriation Bill - Issues which have come in
for much criticism, both outside and inside Congress, are
now embodied in certain clauses of the 134-million dollar

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urgency deficiency bill, which was passed yesterday by the
House and sent to the Senate. One of its most controversial
amendments, sponsored by the Kerr Subcommittee, denies the

payment of salaries, and thus Federal employment, to
Lt. Governor Robert Morse Lovett of the Virgin Islands,
and Dr. Goodwin B. Watson and Dr. William Dodd, Jr. of the
FCC, on the grounds that all three have been members of

organizations serving as "fronts" for communistic activities
Secretary Ickes, however, defends the record of Dr. Lovett
and the FCC has come to the support of its two employees.
Another amendment to the deficiency bill prohibits the Preo
dent from using any of the emergency funds, provided in the
act, for the expenses of either the Farm Security Administration or the National Resources Planning Board, both of
which have been the targets of much Congressional criticism.

Note - "The fight that is steadily growing" between the Administration and Congress is discussed in Merlo Pusey's
column "Wartime Washington" in today 's Washington Post.

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OFFICE

SECRETARY OF TREASURY

1943 MAY 20 PM I 47
TREASURY DEPARTMENTNOT TO BE RE-TRANSMITTED
COPY NO.

13

BRITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

OPTEL NO. 164

Information received up to 7 a.m., 19th May, 1943.
1. LILITARY

TUNISIA. Total number of prisoners counted to date now 224,200,

BURMA. ARAKAN. 16th/17th. Our Raiding Parties landed at Jap
anese occupied MAUNGDAW and encountered strong opposition. 18 out of 20 Japanese

were killed in attempting a bayonet charge.
2. AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 17th/18th. Out of 8 Torpedo Hampdens sent out

3 sighted and attacked a convoy off FRISIAN ISLANDS. 2 ships were later seen in
the vicinity with the decks awash and smoking heavily. 2 Hampdens missing.
18th. 12 Bostons attacked ABBEVILLE Airfield and 8 Typhoon Bombers POIX Airfield.

5 Typhoons missing. 18th/19th. Aircraft despatched - Seamining - 17, Intruden
27, Anti Shipping - 2. 12 Enemy Aircraft operated against LONDON, 1 F.W. 190
was destroyed by a Mosquito.

TUNISIA. Between 14th and 16th inclusive, a total of about
30 enemy aircraft attacked BONE.

ITALY. 16th/17th. Wellingtons dropped 38 tons on the Seaplane
base at LIDO DI ROMA where hangars were set on fire. 17th/18th. Mosquitos car-

ried out effective Intruder Patrols over Southern ITALY.
BURMA. 16th. Mitchells attacked Railway Installations in the
MANDALAY Area and 17 escorted Vengeance bombed Wireless Station on AKYAN Island.
3. HOME SECURITY

18th/19th. LONDON. Single Bomba were dropped in 6 outer sub-

urbs and at 2 places in ESSEX. No serious incidents reported and so for only 2
reported killed.

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M
May 20, 1943
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

From: Mr. Blough

In accordance with your instructions, I attended
the meeting of the Joint Federal-Council of State

Governments Committee on Taxation in Chicago Monday,

May 17, 1943. More than half of the State members
were present. A representative was present for the
Bureau of the Budget.

The subject discussed was the Gulick-Groves report
made to you on Intergovernmental Fiscal Relations. The

principal interest centered on the three-man board or
authority recommended set up as a permanent agency promoting intergovernmental fiscal relations.
State members of the Committee on Taxation seemed

to feel that the three-man board idea was not a practical
approach and that, at least for the time being, it would
be better to try to accomplish the same objective through
the Committee itself. An executive committee of five
will meet in Washington in the next few weeks to decide
on what organization and procedure to recommend as the

most practical way of putting into effect increased
Federal-State cooperation. I hope you will be able to
see the Committee for a short time while they are here.

I was asked to convey to you the assurance that the
State people are in real earnest to accomplish something
substantial and to take the question of Federal-State

relations out of the faulty stage. I assured them that
this end was the one you desired to see accomplished.
I have some private doubts as to how much they really

want to see accomplished.

Some resentment - I believe not justified - was
expressed at certain language contained in the report
which was felt to cast a derogatory light on the Council
of State Governments and its activities. This matter has
been entirely smoothed over and certain minor verbal
changes are being made in the report to meet the objections.

RB

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AGENDA

FOR THE BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE MEETING

TO BE HELD MAY 20. 1943 AT 10:00 A. M.
ROOM 2017 SENATE OFFICE BUILDING

1. Discussion of report on "Policy on Civilian Relief in
the Blockade Area." Report attached.

2. Discussion of report entitled, "Modification of Export
Policy for Gold Mining in Latin America. " Report
attached.

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BL-89
COFFIDENTIAL
Copy

BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE

Blockade and Supply Branch

Blockede Division

POLICY OF CIVILIAN RELIEF
IN THE BLOCKADE AREA

CONFIDENTIAL

May 3, 1943

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Conclusions

The Sonrd of Economic Warf re is pursuing the following

olic on relief shipments to and within the blockede creat

1. Except under certain existin arren events cp-

proved by the United States "Government, no relief shiptents involving the passage of goods through the

blockede for distribution in any occuried country
are persitted. Should strong evidence appear, at any
time, that shipments under such existing arrangetents are proving of direct or indirect.aid to the

Enemy, such shipments are not peruitted.

2. Relief shipments to neutral countries, for distribution solely within such neutral countries,

are perLitted through the blocksde, with the approval of United States blockede authorities, only
if adequate prevision is nade for selection of
those the are to get the relief on the basis of need
alone, and only in the absence of any strong evidence
that such shippents are proving of direct or indirect
aid to the enery.

3. Purchases and shipments of relief goods within the
blockede crea are permitted only with the approval
of the United States blockade authorities, and only

on the following conditions: that distribution is

made on the by sis of need alone and is properly safe-

guarded; that the Enery will derive no direct or
indirect benefit therefrot; that these shipments do
not conflict with the ;rocureLent or preception operatiens of the United Nations; and thr t the relief is
shown to be of positive value in prosecuting the ver.

4. The Executive Director of the Board, in cooperation
with officials of other United States agencies, is
taking steps to work out the application of these
principles in specific cases, and to ensure the
r.doption and effective administration of an AngloAmerican policy along the above lines.

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EXISTING POLICY AND PROBLEMS

1. Shipments Through the Blockade to
Enemy or Neutral Territories

Up to the present time, the joint policy of the British

and United States Governments has been to prohibit shipments
through the blockeria to enemy or neutral countries of goods

to be used for civilian relief.

The only exceptions to this policy have been (1) the
relief plan anneoved by both governments in August 1942 for
Greece, and (2) the International Red Cross medical aid
program.

The justification for making an exception in favor of
Greece was the belief that the enemy could afford to permit
civilians in that country to starve because of the absence
of any significant resources in Greece which require a
healthy working population. It was believed, therefore,

that civilian reliof in Grooce, which would not relieve the

enony of a burden it otherwise would carry, could be basod

on principlos different from those applying to the other
occupied countries. Shipmonts of limited quantitios of
modical supplies, distributed under careful safeguards in

the occupied countries, have boon permitted undor tho supor-

vision of tho Intornational Rod Cross.

During recont months, the British and Unitod Statos
Governments have boon undor groat pressuro to pormit an on-

largoment of roliof shipmonts through the blockado, principally
for the civilian populations in Norway and Bolgium. The rocommondation made abovo would provont such roliof oporations at

present. Although thero are strong humanitarian roasons for
pormitting roliof shipmonts through tho blockado, it appoars
1

Modical supplies are dofinod as drugs of humanitarian

application strictly and solely, oxcluding products convortiblo to othor usos or whoso uso in modical practico
could not be dofined as humanitarian in effect. The
rulo at prosont applied pormits the shipmont through the
blockado to occupied torritorios of modical products
which, it is boliovod, can bo of no matorial assistance
to the Enomy if divorted from the intended rocipionts
and which tho Enomy would not bo likoly to próvido in any
caso. Thus, navicorts aro not granted for bandages or
cotton wool, blankota, and other toxtilo matorials, nor

for oily and fatty substances, nor for critically valuablo
drugs, such as quinino, or for vitamins.

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certain that such shipments would result in direct benefits

3. Recontly a now proposal for the shipment of
rolief supplies from Turkoy to Yugoalavia
for civilian reliof was presented to the

to the enemy and involve a fundamental breach in the blockado, particularly since any permission granted to one refugee
government for such a relief program would probably have to
be extended to all others.

U. S. Government by the British Government,

which had, in effect, givon its approval
to this plan.

2. Shipments Within the Blockade Area to
Neutral or Enemy Territories

Cortain shipments from ono part of the blockado area to
another MAY, however, bo contrary to Unitod National intorests

Intrablockado rolief shipments have been carried on for
some time. The British Government has taken the principal
responsibility for approval, on the assumption that surplus
food supplios of indigenous origin in neutral countries are
generally available to the enemy in any case and that this
is the loast harmful method of conciliating the governments.
in-oxile which have pressed strongly for some relief action.
Thus, among the approved intrablockado relief programs are
the following:

unloss it is shown that such relief exports will not intorfore

with the procurement and proomption operations of the British
and United Statos Governments in the noutral countries and that

the distribution of the reliof supplies in onomy countries will

bu properly safoguardod so that the Enony will not dorivo any
diroct Sonofit. Bocauso the funds available for procurement
and proception in noutral countries are strictly limited and
in many casos, in fact, insufficient to achieve dosired objuctivos, the uso of dollars or pounds for such roliof shipmonts
may seriously interfere with United Nations purchasing activi-

1. The Bolgian Government is allowed
250,000 pounds storling a month for
the purchase in Portugal of foodstuffs
which are shipped in sealed cars to
Bolgium and distributed there under
supervision of the Bulgian Red Cross.
Ninoty-oight percent of the shipments

tion. In sone cases, also, the foodstuffs or other materials
cont from a neutral country to enemy territory for civilian
relief may tend to replace goods which the enemy would other-

wise supply to these populations in its own interest. In

addition, a proper selection of the commodities used in such
relief programs night enable the British and United States
Governments to make their preemption operations more effective,
taus achieving a double objective. For those reasons, no unqualified approval is givon to relief shipments from one part
of the blockade area to another.

consist of fish in brino and the balance of nuts and driod fruits, all

products indigenous to Portugal.
*

3. Need for Coordinating Policies and
Decisions of the British and United States Governments

2. One pound parcols are sont by mail from
Portugal to individuals in various occupied countries. The contonts of the parcols are sardinos, nuts and driod fruits
of Portuguoso origin. The British Govern=
mont hap approved proposala for the

Civilian rolief programs necessarily have grave economic
implications. There is the danger that the blockado, which is
becoming increasingly effective in weakoning the military porror
of the Shomy, may be so relaxed as to injure United Nations
interests. At the sauce tine, the British and United States

of 3,000
such parcols

governments: Mothor=

month following exponditure for pounds by each storling of the a

Governments face strong presuuro from the governmonts-in-oxilo,

which argue that roliof shipments will save the lives of
syapathisors and hiddon allise within the Enomy's stronghold.
Under those circumstances, whatovor policios or decisions are
formilatod on roliof questions as they affect the blockado
should involve the joint responsibility of the British and
United States Governments. Unloss this is dono, the governmonts-in-oxilo may bo ablo, as in somo instances in the past,
to place upon the United Statos Government the solo responsi-

Poland,
lands, Norway, Czochoslovakia,
Bulgium,
and Free Frunch.

Similarly, the United Statos Government
has approved the expendituro in Portugal
a month each

in the U.S.A., the Distri-

Embassy bution of $12,000 by Joint the Bulgian

Committoo for Poland and the
Polish American Council,

bilit for refusing their roliof proposals, just as boforo the

"

O

United Status ontored the war the British Government was hold
primarily responsible for a rigorous blockado policy.

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SECRET
REPORT TO THE BOARD OF ECONOMIC KARFARE

ON

MODIFICATION OF

EXPORT POLICY FOR GOLD MINING IN LATIN AMERICA

1. ECUADOR

3800

May 20, 1943

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PROPOSED RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF ECONOMIC TARFARE

MAY 20, 1943

WHEREAS special circumstances surrounding

gold nining in the Province of E1 Oro, Republic
of Ecuador, make it desirable that the rigid
export policy with respect to gold mining abroad
of February 11, 1943. be relaxed for the balance
of 1943 with respect to Douador;
AND WHEREAS special cooperation on the part
of the country and company involved have reduced
the requirements to only 170 tons of supplies
from the United States for the balance of 1943;
"NO" THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Board

of Economic Warfare permit the exportation of
these 170 tons of supplies to the South American
Development Company for the maintenance of r6-

duced operations in the Province of E1 Oro,
Ecuador, for the balance of the year 533

"AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that those supplies

be shipped from the United States at the carliest
possible moment, but in any case. prior to October 1,
1943."

CONSIDERATIONS SUPPORTING PROPOSED RESOLUTION

CONCERNING EXPORT POLICY FOR GOLD LIVES

IN ECUADOR. MAY 20, 1943

general Statement

The gold mines involved are located in the Province
of E1 Oro, Republic of Ecuador, and are the property

of the South American Development Company. The
Province of E1 Oro is the southernmost region of Ecuador, and was the

territory invaded by Pcru in the "border incident leading to the loss of
6 large part of the territory previously claimed by Boundor. Subscquent
to the settlement of the dispute, and because of the dovastation wrought
in the Province of El Oro, the United States Government undertook large
scalc rchabilitation work in E1 Oro, which work is now in progress.
The entire Province of E1 Oro is economically dcpendent upon the mining activities of the South American Development
Company. Some 20,000 people are directly affected, aside from the agricultural developments under the auspiece of the Coordinator of InterAmerican Affairs. The closing down of the minos there would therefore
result in severe unomployment and orcate scrious economic distress.
However, in addition, the seenc of the Province as
the thcatro of war in the recent border incident magnifice the importance
of the region. The Government of Ecuador has specifically indicated its
grave concern over the possible reproussions from ocesation of employment
there, which would forec the inhabitants to seck work clacwhere and thus
virtually depopulate the Province, opening the way for another "border
incident". The fear is very real, and apparently is not without foundation.

The Requirements
of the

After several conforcnecs, the representatives of
the South American Development Company and the

Government of Ecusdor agreed to rovisc their list
of requirements downward, and have submitted a rcviscd list covering only some 170 tons for the
balance of the year 1963. Their previous requirements ran between 1,500
and 2,000 tons C. year. They believe therefore that B reduction to 170
tons represents D. severe "cutting to the bonc and WC Agrce with their
stand. The engincers and others qualified to pass upon the matter conour in the contention th t this reduces requirements to an absolute mini-

Loundor Gold Minus

mun for bare maintenance.

Company and Government officials wished to go on rccord that the yearly requirements, on a minimum basis, were 500 tons a
year, and expressed the hope that some way might bc found for meeting those
requirements in 1944 and 1945.

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ECUADOREAN GOLD WINING

1d Mining, Foundor

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Supported by:

Recommendation

Lotter from r. Olaf Ravndal, Assistant Chicf, Division of Exports
and Requirements, Department of State, to Colonel Zicgler, Chicf,
Operations Branch, dated March 24, 1943, which ronds:

In view of the conditions as explained, and the
very special considerations surrounding the opera.
tions of the gold mines in Ecundor, particularly

"There is enclosed herewith 0 list of supplica for the

: proportics of the South American Development Company at E1 Oro
ovinec in Ecundor, WC recommond that the Board pass the resolution

South American Development Company's minc situated at

Portovolo, Provinoc of E1 Oro, Doundor, with n gross weight
of 372,633 pounds consisting of matcritis fully annu-

furnish 1/0 tons of supplies to the mince at E1 Oro, Ecuador, for the
Isnec of 1943; and that the notion taken be communicated immodiately
the Government of Loundor and the South American Development Company
that application might be nade immodictly for supplies needed.

factured, packed and roady for shipment. The Department
recommends that a departure be mede, in this particular
CRSC, from the established policy of not granting shipping
space for supplies consigned to gold mines, in view of the
importance of this mind to the economy of the Province of
E1 Oro. This rcoommundation is in no why to constituto C
procedent and is made purely on the grounds of urgent need
and the fact that the materials have been licensed, manufactured and are ready for shipment."

Letter from W. L. Batt, Vicc Chairman, War Production Board,
to Mr. Hoctor Lazo dated May 11, 1943, which rends:
"Confirming our telephone conversation with regard to
the requirements of the South American Development
Company, the War Production Board will not object to
your recommendation and will make every effort consistent

with other claims to supply the small amounts of material
ncided."

Letter from Mr. Helson Rockcfcllor, Coordinator of Inter-Ancrienn
Affairs to Mr. Henry A. Wallsoc, Chairman, Board of Economic
Warfare dated May 12, 1943, which roads:
"This Office has been informed th t ct the next mocting
of the Board of Economic Carfare consideration will be
given to the export of cortain supplies for the South
American Development Company's gold mine in E1 Orc Province,
Ecundor. The have been advised by the South American
Development Company that they have requested five hundred

tons of equipment per your consisting of dynomite fuscs,
cymide, End cortain replacement parts for mining machinery.
"As you are aware, WC have followed closely the gold mining
situction in c number of the other American Republics in

view of our responsibility for such energency rehabilitation programs as might be required in cooperation with the

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other governments in the event of widesproad unemployment
duc to cossation of gold mining operations. We are informed

that five thousand workers are directly employed in the gold

mine in E1 Oro Province and estimates LS to the number of

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people
thousand.dependent on this employment run from ten to fiftcen

It has been the objectivo of our Office to do everything
possible to assist in maintaining the economic and social
stability of the other American Republics bconusc of its
importance to the effectivo cooperation of the Governments

of these countrics in the prosecution of the war cffort.

"In this connection, the policy of this Office with regard
to work relief programs in countrics where gold mining

operations may 000.8C duc to lack of replacement parts

WC.S expressed in our mcmorandum of January twonty-scvonth

to Mr. Hoctor Lazo, and this policy will bc followed
if required in the cr.sc of Ecuador. There sooms to bc

little question that the closing of the gold mind in

El Oro Provinco would cause severe unemployment and crcctc
economic distress which might assume serious proportions.

"If the Board of Economic Harfare should decide that the
supplies requested by the South American Development
Company are to be shipped to Ecundor, there would be no

nood for this Office to undertake, in cooperation with the
Ecuadorean Government, a work relief program in the mining
arec. Should the decision bc reached that no equipment

is to bc shipped to Ecundor, this Office is prepared to

initiate such work relief programs GS may be required
upon reccipt of necessary documentation from the Department of State, the Board 01 Economic Warfare, the War
Production Board, and the War Shipping Administration, C.S
indicated in our statement of policy on January twentyseventh, if the necessary funds are provided by the
Congress in connection with our 1944 cppropriation."

will 11 WV 81 MY 761
ANNOVENE 30 ASVIBUOES
301390

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TO:

M

MR. SCHWARZ'S OFFICE

FROM:

The Secretary

OWI does not clear these Nugent

talks because his job is not
considered on a policy-making
level, even though he has been

allowed to discuss policy.
Maxon of OPA says he will call

our attention to future Nugent

copy. I am attaching clippings
on NAM opposition to Nugent's
proposal.

@s/r

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NEW YORK

Herald Tribune
MAY 19 1943

stokers and similar goods as soon

Liquid Savings
Held Post-War
Prosperity Key
O. P. A. Aid Tells Retailers
Funds Could Bring Long

Period of Good Trade
Special to the Herald Tribuse

COLUMBUS, Ohio, May 18
The tremendous fund of liquid savings that is being accumulated now

could, "If properly channeled into
consumption, produce a long period

of unparalleled peace-time pros-

perity.' Rolf Nugent, director of
the Office of Price Administration's

credit policy office, told today the

second war-time conference of the
Credit Management Division of the
National Retail Dry Goods Associa-

tion, meeting here in the DeshlerWallick Hotel.

"By the end of the war." Mr.
Nugent said, "American families
will have larger cash balances and

other liquid assets than ever be-

as production is resumed. and it
with be impossible to supply the
total demand immediately. Unless

something is done to limit de-

mand, especially for consumers'
durables. the danger of inflation
during the immediate post-war
period will be Prestor than during the war.

On the other hand, there will

be a tendency for most people to

treat their war-time accumulations as reserves for rainy days,
old age and dependents' protection. and to confine expenditures

to their current incomes," Mr.
Nugent asserted "To the extent

that this occurs, we are likely very

soon after the war to face problems of chronic deflation similar
to those experienced during the
1930's. The rate of saving. having reached levels close to 50 per
cent of total income payments, is
unlikely to fall back to pre-war
level.

What is needed. Mr. Nugent said,

is a method of earmarking part of

our accumulating liquid savings
for post- spending and of regulating the timing of these expenditures so that they do not all
come at once.

The plan of installment sellHe quoted estimates by V. S.
ing for post-war delivery which I
Woytinsky of the Social Security
developed for the once of Price
Administration which indicated Administration the continued
that liquid savings of individuals would help to relieve the inflawill exceed $320,000,000,000 by the tionary pressure on war time
end of the war. if victory is achieved prices, Increase the backlog of
in Europe in 1944 and in the Far post-war demand for consumers
fore."

East in 1946, goods. and regulate the flow of

"Besides," Mr. Nugent said, this demand. There may be bet"families will be more nearly out ter ways of accomplishing these
of debt than at any time during objectives. If so, they should be
the last thirty years. Installment found and put into effect promptly,
sales obligations, except for a few "Military victory will represent
types of goods for which there is only the completion of the first

a continuing supply. will have of the battle for the Four
virtually disappeared: personal Freedoms. Eveh after we have deloan debt will have been cut to feated the Fascist forces on the
small proportions and all other battlefield, victory will not have
forms of individual debt will have been won until we can show that
been substantially reduced." democracy can deal as effectively
These favorable circumstances as other political systems with the

will not in themselves assure a problems of maintaining full prostable post-war prosperity," he duction and economic security.
added. "On one hand, some part The war has brought about unof our accumulated purchasing precedented distortions in our

power will undoubtedly come into economy. Effective peace-time rethe market for goods very prognt adjustments will require foresight,

ly after the war. Millions of peo- clear thinking and bold
ple will want to replace worn-out orous action.
automobiles, refrigerators. washing machines, radios, oil burners.

90
NEW

YORK

Herald STATE Tribune
MAY 20 1943

Installment Sales Plan
For Post-War Era Scored
The board of directors of the
National Association of Manufac-

turers announced yesterday its
agreement with the opposition by
Treasury Secretary Henry Morgen-

thau jr. to various proposals of
installment selling for post-war

delivery, including the Nugent plan

The basic reason for the board's
announced stand is the belief that
any of the numerous "installmentselling-in-reverse" ideas would
compete directly with the sale of
war bonds.

Members said that in their opinIon any such undertaking would
tend to stifle the development and
sale of new products after the war.

would require double selling expenses. They said the program

would result in increased sales after
the war.

The board also raised the ques-

tion of who is to assume the risk
of a possible sharp increase in the
post-war price level.

91

The New York Times.
MAY

20 1943

OPPOSES USE OF BONDS
FOR POST-WAR SALES
N. A. M. Says It Would Stifle
Creation of New Items
The Nugent Plan and all other
similar proposals of installment
selling for post-war delivery were
sharply condemned yesterday in a

statement by the board of direc-

tors of the National Association of

Manufacturers. Four basic reasons for opposing this type of
post-war selling were listed as fol-

lows: (1) It would not result in

more sales after the war: (2), the
tendency would be to stifle the de-

velopment and sale of new prod-

ucts: (3), it would require double

selling and double expense, and
(4), it is in direct competition with
the sale of war bonds.

"When the public invests in war
bonds it can devote the proceeds

after the resumption of normal

production to the purchase of any
goods or services, which is not the

case with future-delivery installment certificates under the Nugent
and other plans.

"There is also the question of
who is going to assume the risk
in case of a sharp post-war inflationary/increase in the price levels'

-

92
YORK

Tribune

Herald

S.E.C. W arns of Inflation Trend
In Study of Individuals' Savings
Unusual Proportion of Public's Income Still Going
Into Currency and Demand Deposits, Agency
Says; Reduction in Indebtedness Shown
Special to the Herald Tribuse

PHILADELPHIA, May 19.-If

public continued to put into currency and demand deposits," the

the present pattern of individuals'
savings persists, with a high pro-

S. E. c. analysis said.

portion of income continuing to

to $4,300,000,000. again constituted the largest component of

go into currency and demand deposits, "the control of inflationary

"Additions to cash on hand and
to checking accounts, amounting

individuals' savings. From the be-

tendencies will become increasingly difficult," the Securities and

ginning of 1942 to the end of

day in making public an analysis
of the volume and composition of

mand deposits) increased by the
unprecedented sum of $15,500.-

Excahange Commission warned to-

saving by individuals in the

United States covering the first

quarter of 1943.

The analysis showed that while
the total savings by individuals in

the first quarter of 1943 declined
somewhat from the high point
reached in the fourth quarter of
1942, reflecting a small decrease
in income after taxes, nevertheless. after paying the largest tax
bill in history, individuals added
$4,800,000,000 to their cash and
deposits. largely cash on hand and
in checking accounts.

At the same time they pur-

chased $2,600,000,000 in govern-

March, 1943. money in the hands

of the public (currency and de000,000. an increase of more than
50 per cent since December 1941.

"In view of the magnitude of
the item. It may be well to recall
that additions to cash on hand
and to checking accounts do not

constitute saving in the same

sense as increases in holdings of
securities. or saving in other liquid

forms. While part of the growth
in currency and demand deposits

undoubtedly represents a relatively permanent form of saving
and another provision for future
payment of currently accruing
taxes, there remains a considerable portion which represents only

ment bonds, added $800,000,000 to

mostly life insurance, and reduced

their indebtedness other, than
murtgages, by $700,000.

"The most significant feature of
the pattern of saving during the
first quarter of 1943. as in prior
quarters. was the unusually high
proportion of income which the

a

their equity in private insurance

temporary accumulation of
funds not eadmarked for investment. that may at any time be
diverted into consumption and

other channels. If such funds con-

tinue to grow at the present rate,

the control of inflationary tendencles will become increasing!:
difficult."

93

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY

May 20, 1943
CONFIDENTIAL

Received this date from the Federal Reserve

Bank of New York, for the confidential inform
tion of the Secretary of the Treasury, compilation
for the week ended May 12. 1943. showing dollar
disbursements out of the British Repire and French
accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
and the means by which these expenditures were
financed.

but EMB

94

C
0

P
Y

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

May 19, 1943
.
CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary:

Attention: Mr. H. D. White

I au enclosing our compilation for the week ended
May 12, 1943. showing dollar disbursements out of the British
Empire and French accounts at this bank and the means by which
these excenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,
/s/ Robert G. Rouse
Robert G. Rouse,

Vice President
The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.
Enclosure

copysima:5/20/43

Expendi-

tures

Official

Canadian
Account

Other

First year of war (

Debits
1,793.2

605.6

20,9

Debits
1,166.7

War period through
December 1940
Second year of war (h)

2,782.3
2,203.0

1,425.6
1,792.2

20.9

1,335.8

1,235.6

904.8

56.1

37.1

Third year of war (1)

(a)

3.4
7.7

407.4
223.1

Total
Credits

Gold

Other

Securities

the Ause

tralian

Credits

(1)

Account

(Official)

Dec. kiech Fab

Feb AME

3

face - Har 31

Apr. Apr

28

30.4

168.6

20.9

87.2
35.3

12.9

37.0

16.3

17.8

61.1

17.1

-

125.0
SIM
-

-

22.7
31.2

22.4
20.7

()

Total
Credits
(e)

1,356.1

52,0

3.9

2,793.1
2,189.8
1,361.5

2,109.9
1,193.7

108.0

14.5

561.1

274.0

16.7

705.4

10.8
13.2

21.

5.5

57.4

1,276.8

+125.9

18.5

A.

-

0.5

20.5

60.6

+25.5

10.1

0.4

12,0

45.5

+ 10.8

5.5

78.2
43.9
50.9
105.8
59.4
22.3

0.2

0.3
0.3

81.6
57.5
83.7
51.9
58.9
120.8

64.4
87.4

-

-

-

-

8.0

-

-

-

-

-

2

30

96.6

19.3

-

-

Oct 29 Deg.
Dec.10/4:
* Dec.

27.4
35.5
13.3

46.7

Total
Debite

1,828.2

-

Oct. Oct. 28

19.0

-

Kn S Funds
(d)

(c)
416.2

1942

Sept. - Sept. 30

Net Inor
or Decr (c)

-

8.0

15.0

5.0
15.1

35.0

-12,9
+21.5
-109.7

+33.6
+ 29,1

(d)

866,3(f)

1,095.3(f)

$299.0

878.3

1,098.4

+220.1

38.9

8.8

-30.1

-14.

- 9.7
+

0.3

0.1
-

-

-

-

-

Total

CREDITS
of
the of

-

PERIOD

BANK OF ENGLAND (BRITISH GOVERNMENT

+

DEBITS
Transforato
COPY

-

-

-

+50.4

-

-

ENDED

5.9
12.3

Apr. 21
28

May

5

12

6.8
65.0(1)

2.3
B.L

A

2.1

9.0
14.6
17.8

5.3

24.8(k)

3.5
3.9
-

59.7(1)

Average Weekly Expenditures Since Outbreak of War

France (through June 19, 1940) 119.6 Million

England (through June 19, 1940) $27.6 million
England (June 20, 1940 to March 12, 1941) $54.9 million
23.1 million
England (since March 12, 1941)

-

2.1

6.9

146

-

1.0
12.0

16.8

12.8(k)

3.2
₺.2.3
+11.0

40.2

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

See attached sheet for footnotes.

(a)

(b)

Includes payments for account of British Ministry of Supply Mission, British Supply Board, Ministry
Control, and Ministry of Shipping.
Estimated figures based on transfers from the New York Agency of the Bank of Montreal, which apparently represent the

proceeds of official British sales of American securities, including those effected through direct negotiation, In addition
to the official selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during the
early months of the war, although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be identified with any accuracy. According
to data supplied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation
of our securities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million.

(c)

Includes about $85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorised banks with How York banks,
presumably reflecting the requisitioning of private dollar balances. Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
1939 apparently represent current acquisitions of proceeds of exports from the starling area and other accruing dollar
receipts.

(d) Reflects net change in all dollar holdings payable on demand or maturing in one year.
(e) For breakdown by types of debits and credits see tabulations prior to March 10, 1943.

(f) Adjusted to eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day.
(g) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
(h) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
(1) For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 14, 1942.

(1) Includes $55.0 million paid to U. S. Commodity Credit Corporation; total represents largest weekly expenditure since November, 1940.

(k) Includes $8.6 million deposited by British Ministry of Supply, and $1.1 million transferred from New York accounts of British
authorized banks.

ACCOUNTS

Killions of Dollars)

CREDITS

to

PERIOD

First year of war
Lar period through

Total
Debits
323.0

December, 1940

477.2

Second year of war(b)
Third year of war (c)

460.4
525.8

A/C

Debits

Credits

$ Pundr (c)

181.7

31.2

3.9

27.3

36.1

534.8

20.9

110.7

41.0

230.2

57.9

14.5
16.7

43.4

62.4

50.1

12.3

55.5
49.8

81.2

112.2

62.9
17.2

18.3
95.0

7.5

18.1

2.3

14.6

4.7

9.4

Sales

Credits

A/C

A/C

707.4
462.0

246.2

3.4

566.3

198.6

7.2

46.3

53.6

13.2

-

44.9

51.5

16.6

-

56.5

80.8
43.9

14.4

Other

123.9
-

88.5

1.6

360,0

40.5

72.2
107.2

40.4

7.3

28.0

6.6

14.3
10.2
14.1

2

Dec. 3- Dec. 30

48.2

-

48.2

-

2.9

34.9

-

-

-

-

-

66.4

+

44.9
56.5

-

-

24,3

+

Oct. 29 - Dec.

Oct. 1 Oct. 28

-

+

46.3

57.4

41.0

4.3

92.1

164.6

20.5
12.0
5.5
8.0

3

Apr. 1m Apr. 28

36.2

35.1
36.2

20.0

29.0

-

217.1
101.2

-

-

125.0
37.2

-

63.5

-

-

51.6

39.6

51.6
39.6

66.1

+

35.1

Har, 31

52.5

+

Feb 4-Mar

-

+

52.5

3

+

15.4
10.6

16.2
15.9
7.1
16.4

Gold

Sales
30.0

-

-

-

Credits
6.1

5.0
9.9

11.7

2.4

8.2

17.3

15.0

0.9

5.0
15.1

2.1

16.0
6.7

1.3

19.3

19.3

0.3

0.3
0.2

-

4.5

+ 9.0

03

8.0

-

+ 4.9

18.1

11.2

-

Dec. (-)
in Punds

14.6
9.4

6.1

1943

Dec. 31 - Feb

other

32.4

Credits
504.7

For French

1942

Sept, 3 - Sept. 30

(c)

of

38.7

Debits

460.4
525.5

Total

20.9

Gold

460.6

Other

412.7

For Own

Total

16.6

(+) or
Decr.(-)

to

Official
British

Total
Debits

Others

306.4

-

Net Incr.

of

A/C
16.6

0.3

Transfers

Transfers from Official
British A/C

17.3
16.0

0.8

1.1

0.1

+

Proceeds

+

Transfers

Official
British

COMMUNIA

CANADA (and Canadian Government)

OF

-

BANK

+

DEBITS

Week

6.7

O.4

2.9

+

I

WESK_ENDED:

10.6

Apr. 21

6.1

28

May

5

12

6.7

56.5(c)

11.5

11.5

22.8

22.8.

+14

3.0

56.5(c)

12.3(d)

12.3(f)- 11.2

12.0

Average Weekly Expenditures

First year of war

Second year of war

+09

10.6
6.1
6.7

Third year of war
Fourth year of war (through May 12, 1943)

A

LO

million.
million.
10.1 million.
million.
6.2

0.0
G

12.0

2.0

0.2
3.3

12.8(h

-

3.3

12.8(h)

-1.3

+01
+03
+08

For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941,
For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 1941
For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 14, 1942.
Reflects changes in all dollar holdings payable on demand or maturing in one year.
Does not reflect transactions in short term U. S. securities.

Includes 1.7 million deposited by War Supplies, Ltd.

Includes 350.0 million paid to U. S. Treasurer, in reimbursement for goods
recoured for Cenada through facilities of Lend-Lease Administration. Canadian
r the weer largest recorded for war period.
million held for credit of U. S. Army

98
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
TO:

American Mission, New Delhi, India

DATE:

May 20, 1943, 1 p.m.

NO.:

254

Reference is made to the Mission's no. 347 of May 17
at 1 p.m.

It is suggested that the New York Times text be used
instead of that which Gregory held as several changes were

made in it before publication.

HULL

(FL)

ehicopy
5-28-43

OFFICE

SECRETARY OF TREASURY

99

1943 MAY 21 PM I 02
NOT TO BE RE-TRANSLITTED
EASURY DEPARTMENT

COPY NO. 13

BRITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

OPTEL NO. 165

Information received up to 7 a.m., 20th May, 1943.
1. NAVAL

One of H.M. Destroyers yesterday captured the enemy Hospital
Ship KONSTANZ, north off PANTELLERIA and sent her into MALTA for search and
investigation.

2. ILITARY
BURMA. 18th. A party of Japanese advancing northwards from
BUTHIDAUNG was reuted by our troops with 27 enomy casualties.
3. AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 19th, 103 U.S. Fortresses dropped 230 tons
on KIEL and 55 others dropped 123 tons on FLENSBURG. Bombing results were

generally good. 6 Fortresses on KIEL missing. 19th/20th. Aircraft dospatched:
BERLIN - 6, Intruders - 33, Leaflets - 5. 10 enemy aircraft operated over Southeast ENGLAND, a few of which penetrated to the GREATER LONDON Aroa. 1 F.W. 190

landed at MANSTON airfield, cause unknown.
SARDINIA. 17th/18th. Wellingtons dropped 30 tons on ALGHERO

town and airfield.

SICILY. 18th. 40 escorted Fortresses dropped 98 tons on
TRAPANI, hitting 6 ships.
PANTELLERIA. 18th. Medium and fighter bombers dropped 87

tons hitting docks, jetties, small craft, barracks and grounded aircraft.
BURMA. 18th. 94 Bomber and Fighter Sorties were flown against
enemy objectives near AKYAB and along the ARAKAN Coast.