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Book 582

November 6 -9, 1942

Book Page
Advertising Council

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds
Airplanes

Deliveries by type and date, November 1941--October 1942,
reviewed by General Arnold for HMJr - 11/6/42

Aircraft flight delivery - British Air Commission report 11/6/42.

Aircraft despatched, week ending November 3, 1942 British Air Commission report - 11/9/42

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94

96

385

Argentina
See Latin America

-BBoard of Economic Warfare
139

Meeting - 11/7/42
a) Discussion of

1) Cryptostegia (trop'cal Indian vine - source
of rubber) - report on
2) Swedish trade - further report on
a) Resolution as sent to Vice President -

142

145,148

11/14/42: See Book 584, page 97
b) Wallace sends report to FDR who asks
HMJr and Patterson to talk over and
make recommendations - 11/17/42:
Book 585, page 270
Business Conditions
Haas memorandum on situation, week ending November 7,
340

1942 - 11/9/42

CCensorship, Office of
See Foreign Funds Control
Chicago Bridge and Iron Company

Plant at Newburgh, New York, for floating dry-docks -

political situation discussed in Forrestal
correspondence - 11/9/42

Correspondence

327

86

Mrs. Forbush's mail report - 11/6/42

Cryptostegia
See Board of Economic Warfare

-D

Davis, Elmer
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

1) Patterson-HMJr conversation - 11/18/42: Book 586, pages
153 and 208

- D - (Continued)

Book Page

Deferments, Military

Selective Service and Civil Service ask that draft

boards be furnished with the names of 3-A (married
men with dependents) employees occupying key positions

for consideration in connection with Class 3-B
a) Paul opinion on - 11/9/42

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316

-EEconomic Stabilization Board
See Inflation
Exports

To Russia, Free China, and selected blocked countries,
during 10-day period ending October 20, 1942 11/9/42

359,366

F-

Financing, Government

Government securities - recent changes in prices and
yields: Haas memorandum - 11/6/42

31

Federal Reserve operations in Government securities 11/7/42
War Savings Bonds:

128

In connection with November and December financing,

HMJr, Bell, Graves, and Buffington talk over War
Bond quotas - 11/6/42

1

a) Eccles conference discussed between HMJr and

Graves; Eccles' desire to set up new State

offices with paid staffs to be reviewed 11/7/42

115,117

b) Elmer Davis--MMJr conversation on "$10- to $13

billion before Christmas" - 11/9/42
c) Miller McClintock (Advertising Council)--MMJr
conversation concerning "$10- to $13 billion
before Christmas' - 11/9/42
1) Conversation repeated to Kuhn, Odegard,
and Gamble

a) Harold Thomas suggested

d) Wanders (George) suggested to HMJr by Gamble 11/9/42

190

194

199
196

254

1) Herald Tribune asked to loan for two
months: Book 583, page 362

Payroll Savings Plan:
New York City situation discussed in Kuhn memorandum 11/6/42

Analysis as of October 31, 1942 - 11/6/42
Navy Department report for first year - 11/9/42
Newspaper (large city) coverage - report on - 11/9/42.
Pearl Harbor anniversary drive - outline for 11/9/42

2) Mrs. Reid agrees - 11/20/42: Book 587, pages 61 and 65

24,26
27

264,267
269

276

- F - (Continued)
Book

Page

Foreign Funds Control

Office of Censorship-Foreign Funds Control relation
discussed in Paul memorandum - 11/6/42

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63

France:

American Red Cross shipments of food for distribution
to French prisoners of war: FDR and HMJr decide to
permit payment of present shipment and "keep entire
situation on 24-hour basis" - 11/6/42
a) Discussion by 9:30 group - 11/9/42
b) Breckenridge Long and HMJr discuss - 11/6/42
c) Letter to American Red Cross - 11/10/42:

59,376
183

58-A

See Book 583. page 137

All France within continental Europe declared "enemy

territory" - 11/9/42

375

11/9/42

378

French North Africa reviewed in Paul memorandum -

Over-all picture reviewed by Paul - 11/12/42: Book 583,
page 386

"French goods destined for North Africa but stranded
in United States" - Paul memorandum - 11/17/42:
Book 585, page 237
France

See also Foreign Funds Control
All France within continental Europe declared "enemy

territory" - 11/9/42

375

-IInflation
Paul speech, "Taxation and Consumer Spending": Comment

by Office of War Information transmitted to HMJr 11/7/42

126

Economic Stabilization Board:
Conference to discuss Treasury memorandum on "Treasury

Department role in economic stabilization"; present:
HMJr, Paul, White, Haas, and Gaston - 11/9/42
a) Drafts of memorandum
b) Byrnes-HMJr conversation

204

215,235
248

Conference; present: HMJr, Bell, White, Paul, Haas,
Stewart, and Gaston - 11/10/42: Book 583, page 27
a) Cohen's memorandum: "Tentative tax and savings
program for 1943: Book 583, page 41
Inter-American Financial and Economic Advisory Committee
See Latin America

-LLatin America

Inter-American Financial and Economic Advisory Committee:
Treasury representation on discussed in Treasury-State
correspondence - 11/9/42
Argentina: Cochran-Meltzer mission - Paul memorandum
concerning - 11/6/42

a) Treasury letter to State Department concerning
implementation of Argentine financial program 11/6/42
(See also Book 583, page 139 - ii/io/42)

382
72

75

- L - (Continued)
Book

Page

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133

Lend-Lease

Procedure covering procurement of war materials
constituting "an emergency purchase of war material
abroad" covered in Treasury-War Department
correspondence - 11/7/42
U.S.S.R.

Conference in Stettinius' office to discuss (a)

supplying food to Soviet Government, and (b) shipping
facilities - Mack memorandum - 11/6/42
Items purchased by Procurement and available to U.S.S.R.
during November listed for FDR - 11/9/42
United Kingdom: Federal Reserve Bank of New York statement
showing dollar disbursements, week ending October 28,
1942 I 11/6/42

65

372

103

-M-

McClintock, Miller (Advertising Council)
See Financing, Government War Savings Bonds

Military Reports

108,169,170

British operations - 11/6/42, etc

387,388

Bombing Raids over Western Europe during October 1942 -

Hoflich report - 11/6/42
British Offensive in Egypt - Hoflich report - 11/6/42
Office of War Information report - 11/6/42

Murray, James E. (Senator, Montana)
See Small Business

-NNavy Department

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (Payroll

Savings Plan)

New York City

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (Payroll

Savings Plan)

Revenue Revision

#

Newspapers

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

-0Office of Censorship
See Foreign Funds Control

109

112
114

-PBook Page
Paul, Randolph

Speech entitled "Taxation and Consumer Spending":
Comment by Office of War Information transmitted to
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HMJr - 11/7/42

126

Pearl Harbor Anniversary
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds
Portugal

Supply Purchase Negotiations: HMJr recommends to FDR 11/9/42

357

Procurement Division

Distribution and utilisation of shortage supplies and
equipment for United States Government: Executive
Order 9235 covering - Mack memorandum concerning 67

11/6/42

-RRevenue Revision

New York City need for tabulation machines in connection
with withholding tax discussed in LaGuardia-Treasury
correspondence - 11/7/42.
a) Mack memorandum: See Book 585, page 216

120

b) Preference Rating Certificate sent LaGuardia -

11/17/42: Book 585, page 200
Doughton's attitude toward Treasury discussed by 9:30
group - 11/9/42.

180

-SSilver

Spain: Final report on expenses in connection with
Spanish silver purchased by United States in 1938 11/9/42.

356

a) State Department letter (withdrawn) concerning
litigation costs and counsel fees: Book 584, page 93
1) Acheson-HMJr conversation - 11/17/42:
Book 585, page 45

(See also Book 586, page 146 - 11/18/42)
Small Business

Murray (Senator, Montana)--Treasury correspondence 11/9/42

333

(See also Book 592, page 186)
Spain

See Silver
Sweden

See Board of Economic Warfare

-T"Taxation and Consumer Spending"

Speech by Paul: Comment by Office of War Information

transmitted to HMJr - 11/7/42

Thomas, Harold

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

126

-UU.S.S.R.
See Lend-Lease

Wanders, George

See Financing, Government
War Savings Bonds

See Financing, Government
War Department
See Lend-Lease

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November 6, 1942
9:00 a.m.
WAR BONDS

Present:

Mr. Bell

Mr. Graves

Mr. Buffington

H.M.JR: This is the thing that worries these
people, and I hope I didn't give you a bad night.
MR. GRAVES: You did; I had a bad night, but

that is all right.

H.M.JR: Did I give you a bad night? Didn't you
sleep?

MR. GRAVES: Not much.

H.M.JR: I am sorry; I shouldn't have called you
at ten o'clock.
What these boys want to do is to start a campaign
along about the 24th and between that time and the first

of January sell between ten and thirteen billion dollars
worth of securities - of which they credit war bonds
with how much?

MR. BELL: I put in a billion eight hundred seventyfive. That is what is in my estimate.
MR. GRAVES: That is for that period?
MR. BELL: Yes, November and December, and I hope

that that may be increased by enough to make it up to

two and a half by a little drive.

MR. GRAVES: I think that war bonds can do four
billion dollars during November, December, and January.

2

-2MR. BELL: Well, that is about right.
MR. GRAVES: That is about our quota.

MR. BELL: I have already a billion seven for you
in my estimates for January. That makes four, two, if
we get this two and a half I am speaking of.
MR. GRAVES: Our estimate which I have given to Haas

was a billion eight for November and December, but for
January we were figuring on two billion.

MR. BELL: A billion sevenH.M.JR: They have a billion eight hundred and
seventy-five for Savings Bonds.
MR. BELL: The last estimate for January from
Harold was a billion eight hundred and seventy-five.
MR. GRAVES: That didn't come from me.

MR. BELL: Yes, it did, from your force.
MR. GRAVES: I think that is the quota we had, Dan,
which Mr. Haas' people computed, but we have been figur-

ing all the time on two billion dollars for January.
H.M.JR: Two billion dollars for what?
MR. GRAVES: January.

H.M.JR: January does not interest me. In this

figure here for November and December - for sixty days you are down for one billion eight hundred and seventyfive.
MR. GRAVES: We ought to do it.

H.M.JR: And a possible two and a half, but at the
minimum of one billion eight hundred and seventy-five.

3

-3MR. GRAVES: That is our figure.

H.M.JR: Is that within the realms of possibility?
MR. GRAVES: That is right.

H.M.JR: Is that a minimum figure?

MR. GRAVES: No, I wouldn't say that it is a
minimum
figure. I would say that it is a fair figure
to set for us.
MR. BELL: That is a billion eight hundred and

seventy-five million in December.

H.M.JR: But these are your figures.
MR. GRAVES: That is right.

H.M.JR: This is what worried us, and this is
why I called you. We will come down to facts, but I
want to straighten out the record. We want to settle
once and for all how much this Victory Fund Committee
can do, how much we can rely on; and the only worry

that they have, as far as saying they will deliver it,
is that your people will be calling on members of their
security salesmen's organization, which would interfere.

Now, I made a proposal which is entirely satisfactory to them, and then they said that they would have

no alibi. They are all coming here Monday. If I
simply say to the representatives of the securities

salesmen in here Monday, "Now for November and December

I want you to work exclusively for the Victory Fund
Committee, I don't want you to work for any State
administrator"-MR. GRAVES: That is the way it is now.

H.M.JR: Well, it isn't-MR. GRAVES: You remember your telegram?

3

-3MR. GRAVES: That is our figure.

H.M.JR: Is that within the realms of possibility?
MR. GRAVES: That is right.

H.M.JR: Is that a minimum figure?

MR. GRAVES: No, I wouldn't say that it is a
minimum
figure. I would say that it is a fair figure
to set for us.
MR. BELL: That is a billion eight hundred and

seventy-five million in December.

H.M.JR: But these are your figures.
MR. GRAVES: That is right.

H.M.JR: This is what worried us, and this is
why I called you. We will come down to facts, but I
want to straighten out the record. We want to settle
once and for all how much this Victory Fund Committee
can do, how much we can rely on; and the only worry

that they have, as far as saying they will deliver it,
is that your people will be calling on members of their
security salesmen's organization, which would inter-

fere.

Now, I made a proposal which is entirely satisfactory to them, and then they said that they would have

no alibi. They are all coming here Monday. If I
simply say to the representatives of the securities

salesmen in here Monday, "Now for November and December

I want you to work exclusively for the Victory Fund
Committee, I don't want you to work for any State
administrator"MR. GRAVES: That is the way it is now.

H.M.JR: Well, it isn't-MR. GRAVES: You remember your telegram?

4

-4-

H.M.JR: Well, it evidently isn't. Let me just

run through my story; then we will break it down.
(Mr. Buffington entered the conference.)

H.M.JR: But when I say that to them, I am going

to say to them, "I expect you to sell all the securities
available that are for sale by the Treasury." In other

words, when they go out, using my Crowell Publishing
example - Crowell used to have seventy-five kinds of
magazines, and the Crowell Publishing subscription
salesmen would sell any one of seven or the combination.

When the Victory Fund goes out, they will have in their

portfolio every available security. If they sold an
"E" or an "F" and "G," as far as the credit would go
it would pile up to your organization. They don't

care about the credit, but what they would like me to

say - and nothing is settled, it is all fluid - to

their group Monday is, "Now, as Secretary of the Treasury
I am asking you, members of the securities organization
of America, to devote yourselves exclusively to the

Victory Fund for November and December." See?

MR. GRAVES: By that you mean they would not do
any private business?

H.M.JR: No, no, that they wouldn't work for any

State Administrator.

MR. GRAVES: That is the present status of things

as a result of your telegram of the 27th day of August
which I have here. They were told exactly that. That

is Mr. Buffington's-MR. BUFFINGTON: That is a little different. The
Secretary is speaking now about them not working as

individuals.

MR. GRAVES: Oh, as individuals. You see the
Victory Fund Committees since that wire have not been

working as committees.

5

-5H.M.JR: No, but I am talking now as individuals.
MR. GRAVES: That would be perfectly all right.

H.M.JR: As individuals. But I want to go over

it again so it is perfectly clear. When they call on
the fellow and the fellow says, I don't want your
tap, but I want the 'F' and 'G,'n let them take that.
MR. GRAVES: We would welcome that.

H.M.JR: That is the result of last night's

conference, subject to giving you ample time to think
about it.
MR. GRAVES: I see no objection to that. That
is, there would be instances, I suspect, of where
one of these fellows would have to choose whether he
is to remain a member of the Victory Fund Committee or

a member of our shop, because there are instances where

a fellow is in both organizations. Such a man, I should
think, would have to decide--

H.M.JR: Well, it is a free country, and-MR. GRAVES:

whether he is going to continue

to be a member of the Victory Fund Committee.
H.M.JR:

it is getting freer every day. (Laughter)

MR. GRAVES: I see no objection to it at all. In

fact, I think that would be welcomed.

H.M.JR: George said that if I said the word - so

there can be no mi sunderstanding - on Monday to the
"Union of Security Salesmen of America," "I want you

to work exclusively for the Victory Fund," that means

they will work exclusively for the Victory Fund.
MR. GRAVES: That is all right.

6

-6MR. BUFFINGTON: What is happening in Cleveland

is that Percy Brown--

MR. GRAVES: There is a good example. Percy
Brown, who is an investment man, is our county chairman

for that very large community. That is, his activities
include everything, payroll savings, women's activities,
schools, everything comes under Percy Brown. I don't

know whether he is a member of the Victory Fund or not.
MR. BUFFINGTON: He stands very well in the

securities industry.

MR. GRAVES: I assumed he would go right on.
MR. BUFFINGTON: He is now, as I understand it,
asking members of the industry to become a member of

his "F" and "G" Committee for this drive. What I feel
would be confusing would be to have these two bosses.
MR. GRAVES: Tell them not to invite members of
the Victory Fund Committee under any circumstances to
be members of your organization.

H.M.JR: No, I want to go further than that.
I don't want your people to invite security salesmen

who belong to the "Union of Security Salesmen-MR. GRAVES:

to be members of the War Savings.

That is exactly what I was trying to say.

H.M.JR: That is, further - because a man could be
very well a security salesman and not be a member of the
Victory Fund Committee.
MR. GRAVES: I see what you mean.

MR. BUFFINGTON: But he would be utilized during
this campaign by the Victory Fund Committee.

H.M.JR: You could very well, I am sure, go
down Wall Street and go into security houses and find

7

-7 a lot of people that are members of neither Victory
Fund nor yours. Now in your campaign for "F" and "G"
and your campaign to sell all issues, we are going to

call on an all-out effort of all security salesmen,

and we want the "Union of Security Salesmen" to work
exclusively for the Victory Fund Committee.

MR. GRAVES: That is all right.

H.M.JR: So we draw the line - I mean, there is

a clean-cut thing. I want all security salesmen either
to work for the Victory Fund Committee or for nobody -

that is what it amounts to - plus, you said, certain

banks.

MR. BUFFINGTON: Well, the banking people who are

now actively working with the Victory Fund Committee.

H.M.JR: Now, to explain that so there is no
misunderstanding~ -

MR. BUFFINGTON: The Victory Fund Committee has a

series of members of regional and sub-regional committees

who are now devoting all their time to the work of the
committee. I think it would be too bad if those same
men were asked to do the dual job, likewise.
MR. GRAVES: Illustrate, John; offhand I don't

know of any.

MR. BUFFINGTON: Well, I don't know that I can,
Harold. Take George Rand of Buffalo or Harriman of
the Manufacturing People's Trust Company. His bank
has been interested in doing a certain amount of work
for War Savings. The main amount of his time is spent

on activities of the Victory Fund Committee. If he

were asked to work for the State Administrator on the
"F" and "G" bond drive and at the same time were asked

to do this over-all job, I think again he would be looking to two people.

H.M.JR: Excuse me - wouldn't this answer this
question, if Harold Graves would send out instructions

8

-8to his forty-eight State Administrators simply saying,

"From now on, please do not solicit any members who
are members of the Victory Fund Committee or men who

are security salesmen to assist you in your work."

MR. GRAVES: That is all right. We can do that.
That is no problem, except as to people who are already
in our organization.

H.M.JR: Now, you do that. I mean, if you agree

to send out such a telegram, then when these fellows

come in Monday they will say that they will do that I

want. Now, I will say, "All right, I want the security
salesmen of America to devote themselves exclusively

to the Victory Fund Committee. With that set up and I want them to sell all Treasury securities-MR. GRAVES: Yes.

MR. BUFFINGTON: Under the direction of the Victory

Fund Committee.

MR. GRAVES: That is all right.

H.M.JR: Let me take a look. I can't look at more
than one person at a time. Bell?

MR. BELL: I think that is fine. You say that you
didn't put any time limit on it. You want that to
hold from here on, or is it just for this drive? I
take it that after the drive is over we won't have a
drive every month.

MR. GRAVES: It would look a great deal better

if only for this period.

H.M.JR: For November and December - why not let's

say for the balance of this year?

MR. BUFFINGTON: The balance of this calendar
year.

9

-9H.M.JR: Let's say for between now and the

first of January. How is that?
MR. BUFFINGTON: Fine.

MR. GRAVES: Mention the reason, which is that

these fellows are going to be busy on this other.

H.M.JR: Here is the trouble. You can't say they

are busy on the drive for us, because we have not even

talked to Ecoles about this drive of ours. Do you

see what I mean?

MR. BUFFINGTON: I rather agree with the Secretary

that if at his instructions they are going to do this

for November and December, that is sufficient reason.

MR. BELL: Yes, but that either throws some onus

on the War Savings Staff, or it gives away the drive.

Now, which do you want?

MR. GRAVES: You see my point, if you just send

out a naked wire, people will say, "Oh, more trouble."
H.M.JR: How about if we wait until we are ready

to announce the drive?

MR. BUFFINGTON: Just a second. They are now in

the process in these different states of actively -

yesterday and today - getting these people and talking
to these people about assisting the State Administrators.
I think the sooner that can be done, the more completely

it is clarified and there will be less confusion.
MR. BELL: Would Monday be too late?

MR. GRAVES: I think we had better have our people

get on the telephone and explain it to our people.
H.M.JR: There are only ten States.

10

- 10 MR. GRAVES: That is right, we can do it in those
places that are crucial and explain exactly why, and

tell them that we wouldn't like anything to be said
about this until this drive is determined. In that
way we assign a reason, and it makes it a whole lot
better looking than if we just send out instructions

like that which many people would say is evidence of
further trouble. That would be much better.

H.M.JR: Will you set me straight as to when I

said this "F" and "G" drive was going ahead?

MR. GRAVES: Yes, sir, here is the agenda of
your Kansas City meeting, and you will notice there
under "F" and "G" what is said. Then you remember,

too, that Mr. Harrison came in to see you, I would

say--

H.M.JR: But, Harold, there is nothing here about

a drive.

MR. GRAVES: Yes, canvassers--

H.M.JR: That means something to you, but even

now - I mean, there is nothing there about there being
a drive from the 15th of November.
MR. GRAVES: At that time we hadn't set any precise
time for this except we have asked our people to complete
it by the end of December, and they started as soon as
they could, but we fixed no beginning date, except that
the New York people have established their beginning

date as the 15th of November. In connection with this
Harrison came in here to offer to you-H.M.JR: I thought it was the "E" Bonds.
MR. GRAVES: No, no, "F" and "G." You remember,

you brought him down to my office.

H.M.JR: Then I followed through. Something came

up and nothing happened.

11

- 11 MR. GRAVES: There is your memorandum to me and
mine. to you.

MR. BUFFINGTON: Is that industrial men?

MR. GRAVES: That is underwriters. Harrison is

chairman of the Industry Committee.

MR. BUFFINGTON: There are two groups, the mis-

cellaneous underwriting group and the industrial

insurance salesmen.

MR. GRAVES: This is the whole insurance
industry.

H.M.JR: But this does not - you see, all I am

doing now is to sum up once more so we understand each

other. The only difference is that the security salesmen ask to work for the Victory Fund, and let the Victory
Fund Committee sell all securities, which I don't think
they have done before.

MR. GRAVES: They sold "F" and "G" for the period

May through August.

H.M.JR: I mean on this thing for November and

December.

MR. GRAVES: I will be delighted with that.
H.M.JR: Fine; and as we get along Monday, we
come to some decision; and before I once more decide

anything, you sit in and talk with me personally;

and then when we do decide, you will go down there
with me and I will make the announcement. Then I

thought it would be very nice if you followed up and
said that this was pleasing to you and you would be

more than pleased to have them sell everything, and

that your organization is available to cooperate, and
so forth, and so on. But, as I say, before anything
becomes definite, as far as I am concernad it will

have to be in writing, because there has been so much
discussion about this, you see.

12

- 12 MR. GRAVES: There are some, as I mentioned a
minute ago, who have something to do with our present

personnel. Percy Brown was an illustration. Nevil

Ford is another one, and John Richards in Los Angeles
is another one, and Howard Knowlee is another. In
other words, we have in our regular organization quite
a number. Ford is a partner in the First Boston Company.
MR. BUFFINGTON: But quite a number of those people

are also working for the Victory Fund Committee.

MR. GRAVES: I suppose you wouldn't want this
arrangement to affect people who have been in our
organization for many months.

H.M.JR: No, I don't want Nevil Ford to resign.
MR. BUFFINGTON: I am thinking of the volunteer
worker and the members of the Victory Fund Committee.

MR. GRAVES: As to those, they are all right; we

will accept them if they want to stay.

H.M.JR: Supposing a half a dozen men that have

important positions - I take it that they would stay,
but the thing that Buffington-MR. BUFFINGTON: The solicitation of volunteers.

H.M.JR: Let's for heaven's sake, in this room lay

all the cards - if there is anything in your (Buffington)

mind, say 80.

MR. BUFFINGTON: It will take the confusion away,

working to the advantage of both of us.

H.M.JR: I am sorry I gave you a bad night, but
after calling you I thought this one up.
MR. GRAVES: That is very satisfactory.

H.M.JR: Now, the same for you (Graves.). If you have
got anything in your mind, say it or keep your peace.
MR. GRAVES: No, I haven't anything. We will have
to start over again in certain States where we have
already begun to draw these people into our set-up, but

that is all right.

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- 13 -

H.M.JR: Now, the other thing that we are thinking about - I want to tell you, and then you remind me,
Dan, if there is anything else we talked of that would
be of interest to Harold - the Federal Reserve Board
has made an offer that they are willing to put up
five million dollars to pay the salesmen for these a weekly salary.

MR. BELL: While they are working.

H.M.JR: While they are working. I am turning
that down because, in the room here, I don't want the
Federal Reserve paying - controlling the purse strings,

you see.

MR. GRAVES: That is right.
H.M.JR: Now, George Haas and Murphy and Buffington

agree with me. Bell does not. So Bell is overruled.

But I mean--

MR. BELL: I agree that this is the best way to do
it, but I don't have the fears that you do about not
controlling personnel.

H.M.JR: What we are thinking about is the possibility of asking Congress for an appropriation to pay
for these men or their organizations out-of-pocket
expense rather than a commission. What I am looking
forward to - and this is not going to be decided today
or tomorrow or the next day, so you have time - I am

looking forward - after all, I have always talked a long

war. I don't think it is going to be nearly as long as
I thought it was since I have been in England, but any-

way, these fellows get fifty or seventy-five dollars a
week - whatever it is - from their firms when they are
actually working for us. What I want you to think of
is - what it really amounts to is, can you maintain
your E Bond organization on its present status.

MR. GRAVES: If the other organization gets on a
compensated basis--

14

- 14 H.M.JR: Now you can think that thing over and when
you have talked it over with your boys, come back, seek
me out, and talk to me.
MR. GRAVES: How much time have we?

MR. BELL: We probably won't go to Congress until

the first of January for money.

MR. GRAVES: In other words, we have plenty of time -

not forty-eight hours or anything like that.

H.M.JR: I would like to talk to you again about

it beginning with Monday.

MR. GRAVES: I will be ready.

H.M.JR: I would like you to be ready by Monday to

talk about it. No, I didn't agree with you, Dan.

MR. BELL: You said during this drive we wouldn't

have that problem.

H.M.JR: I might go to the Bureau of the Budget

and ask for an appropriation if I decided this is what
I want to do. I might want to go to the Bureau and start
the thing within the Bureau.

MR. BELL: Well, within the next-H.M.JR: Couple of weeks.

MR. BELL: That is all right.
H.M.JR: But I am putting Harold on notice, and I
don't know that I want to do it.
MR. GRAVES: I have a good deal of information about

that. I don't know whether you remember, but we got

the balance of our funds for the fiscal year '42, bringing the total of the appropriation for expenses of
loans up to twenty-six millions, as I remember. That

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15

- 15 got into the newspapers as being an appropriation to

compensate people to sell war savings bonds, and we had

hell to pay.

H.M.JR: With whom?

MR. GRAVES: With a great many States because of

protests coming from the citizens, objecting to the
creation of a paid force to sell war bonds. Now, that
was war savings securities that were involved in those
stories. We had trouble in New Hampshire; we had
trouble in North Carolina.

H.M.JR: Well, I have got to settle this immediate
campaign. I have got to get busy to sell from ten-MR. BUFFINGTON: The answer to that is that if you
are going to use this professional group, and deny them

the right to sell securities, by which they make a living, they are going to have to be reimbursed for their
time or I don't think they are going to function for

any period.

MR. GRAVES: Well, you will have that trouble.

Once it is known, you will have a lot of protests,
just as we had.

MR. BUFFINGTON: . Didn't that develop on the basis
of commissions, Harold?

MR. GRAVES: No. We will be ready to discuss that

with you. I will talk with Peter.

H.M.JR: This drive does not hinge on whether we

pay them or not. Is that right, George?

MR. BUFFINGTON: As far as payment for this drive is
concerned, but I think that something should be said to
these men that the thing is being given consideration.
H.M.JR: No, I won't say that on Monday because I

won't have time to think it through. As soon as - I

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- 16 -

don't want to raise their hopes and say I thought of it

and then turned it down. When I get ready to say some-

thing I am going to do it; the rest of the time I am

going to keep my mouth shut.

MR. GRAVES: There is one other thing I think I
should tell you, since apparently I hadn't made this
clear before. In every State we have given instructions
to our people to organize a force of people - insurance
people and others - to canvass all F and G prospects
by the end of December. As I understand, nothing is
being said here that would interfere with our going

ahead with that program.

H.M.JR: No, but what I want you to do for me,
I want you to ask somebody like Moody's, one of these
investment councils - Standard Statistics - whether
they would mail, or ask each of them if they would
mail a thousand post cards, with a return post card

attached, to their list - a thousand names on their
list. On that post card I want to ask their customers
if they have ever been solicited by a representative of
the Treasury to buy a Government security; then if so,
by whom. I would like to have that post card written

today, with Bell having a chance to look at it, and
Buffington, and have it go to the printer tonight.

I

want two thousand post cards, and if possible - a
thousand to Standard Statistics and a thousand to
Moody's.

Now, the statement has been made by different people,

like Mr. Shields and Stewart, that they have talked to

a hundred and fifty people and not one has ever been
solicited for Government bonds. You know my method of

finding out. It is this way; if we sent two thousand
return post cards to a list of people who get security
letters, like Standard Statistics, they would be the
people - Moody's and Standard Statistics - people who
would be interested in wealth and not in the E Bonds. I
would like to have those things so that the post cards

could be printed and possibly go up to these people by Monday and have them address them and in the mail Monday night.

17

- 17 That is the schedule. I don't want to see them again,

but I would like Bell and Buffington - the three of

you - to do it. Then, who would those come back to?

Who would they be addressed to?

MR. GRAVES: They would come back to those services.

MR. BELL: Yes, they probably wouldn't want to
give you the names of their customers.
MR. GRAVES: Then delivered in bulk to us.
H.M.JR: Then they could analyze them. That would

give us some idea, if a man like Shields is correct
that there are a hundred and fifty of his friends who

have never been solicited for Government bonds.

But this does not interfere with your plans to
go ahead. The only change is the Victory Fund people

will have a full portfolio, 80 when they call on a

prospect - and their people would be the ones with
wealth - they can sell anything that they want; and
the F and G Bond is more attractive than the tap issue.
MR. BUFFINGTON: Harold, it will also eliminate

that 80-called sabotage where our man does not have
the F Bond and urges him to buy the tap before he buys

a quota of G's. We are not giving him a good invest-

ment policy, and that will eliminate that.
MR. GRAVES: I am for it. It is O.K.

H.M.JR: But I would like those two thousand post
cards in the mail by Monday night.
Now, Bell, what have I overlooked?

MR. BELL: I don't think you have overlooked any-

thing.

H.M.JR: George?

18

- 18 MR. BUFFINGTON: There is just one point I would

like to call to your attention. These men have just
completed, in October, an intensive thirty-day drive

on these Tax Savings Notes. Now they are coming along,

right on top of that, for another extended period. I
just want to offer as a suggestion, that if something

could be said - that thought is being given to working

out--

H.M.JR: I can't do it, George. Now don't push
me on it. Now, you asked for this other thing; I am
straightening this thing out, and I am not going to
hold out promises that I can't make good on. There is

no use pushing me on a thing like that. If I just
hint - if there is any doubt in your mind, without my
holding any carrot before their noses, that they can't
do it, then I want to know it now.
all.

MR. BUFFINGTON: There is no doubt in my mind at

H.M.JR: I am in the frame of mind - I have got to

have successes around me. Now, there is thirteen

billion dollars at stake, and if there is any doubt
in your mind that these fellows will go through after

what I have just done here, without my holding a
carrot - for goodness sake, say so.

MR. BUFFINGTON: There is no doubt in my mind

about it; I was only trying to make as good a showing

as I can.

H.M.JR: No, now come a thousand percent clean.
MR. BUFFINGTON: There is no doubt in my mind about

these men doing a good job on this all-out drive.

H.M.JR: Now, I may not be able to say anything to

them until after the first of January, and I am not

going to say anything to them until after I have made
up my mind - after taking the advice of everybody.
That is the thing we want to do, and I have certainly

first got to talk with the SEC. I have got to talk

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- 19 with them just as a matter of common decency. Don't
you think so?

MR. BELL: I see no harm, but I see no reason for
talking to them.

H.M.JR: It would be a nice thing to do. Now
let's go through this once more, George. I am fast
crystallizing on a program here, and I am relying
on your men to put this thing over.
MR. BUFFINGTON: I restate my position that the
Victory Fund Committee and the Securities Industry

will go all-out on this drive and do a good job without anything being said at all.

H.M.JR: All right, O.K. You are dealing with a

tough guy, you know, and I don't believe in hints,

George; it is the worst kind of thing. I have always
said, and these men have heard me say it, I have only

one thing in politics that is worth a damn in this town,
and that is a fellow's word. Now, I went all through
that with the banking fraternity, once. Something

was said - I forget what it was, but Randolph Burgess
claimed I had hinted something I would do for the
banks. I couldn't remember what it was. It was bad
for the Treasury, but he said they had gotten the im-

pression that that was what I was going to do. Well, I
believed him. He said they had the impression, nothing in
writing. All right - and we went through and had the
thing changed. In other words, they could come back and
say that Mr. Morgenthau gave them the impression that

he was going to give them this salary, and there I am hooked.

MR. BUFFINGTON: But these men are going to do the

job, and the only reason I even mentioned it this
morning was in an effort to get the best possible job.
H.M.JR: O.K. You are a salesman, but when you
push me too hard, I push back. Just so we understand
each other.

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- 20 MR. BELL: Of course you might, Mr. Secretary,
make up your mind before this drive has gone very far,
and then you can say something.

H.M.JR: That is O.K., but I am not going to say

one damn thing to George 80 that he can't say that he
got an impression this morning. If we decided, and
Harold Graves comes around and begs me to do it-(Laughter)

MR. BUFFINGTON: That is all right.
MR. GRAVES: I may come around and beg you not to

do it.

MR. BELL: We may not do that, but I think we have
got to do something, Harold. We have either got to go
this way and expand this organization or we are going to
expand your organization to take in the whole job, be-

cause I don't think we can spend all the time and effort

and money on twenty percent of our financing and leave

the other eighty percent hanging out in the air. The
Secretary is subject to too much criticism. Every

month he comes against the gun and has a banking issue,

and I think we have reached the end of our ropes on that.
I think we have got to do something else. That is my

worry.

MR. GRAVES: I didn't want to be giving a final

impression.

H.M.JR: I am glad you said that because you said

that to me last night.
MR. BELL: I am a little worried about our position,

frankly.

H.M.JR: Any more confessions? I have invited
Mr. Grant, vice president of General Motors, to come in.

I just want to talk to him about our sales effort. As

you know, I have been quite an admirer of his right

along as to his ability in the past as a national sales

manager. How much does he know about our sales organization?

21

- 21 MR. GRAVES: We consulted Mr. Grant, as far as I

know, only on the question you asked us to take up with
General Motors and other automobile companies about

getting people. He was very helpful and friendly about
that. I doubt whether he knows very much.

H.M.JR: What I had in mind was to ask him, as a
consultant, whether he would look over the whole business, the Victory Fund Committee and the whole business,

with an idea of making suggestions as a sales technician.

MR. GRAVES: I think he would have to spend a

little time with us, then.

MR. BELL: It would be grand if he could spend
the next two months while this whole program is going

on.

H.M.JR: What I was thinking, I know he is old, but,
for instance, he might say-MR. GRAVES: I am afraid he is not very well.

H.M.JR: I know, but if, for instance, he would

say, "Could I use a sales manager from the icebox
division-+"
MR. BUFFINGTON: Frigidaire.
H.M.JR:

"Could I bring him in? Could I bring

in the Delco salesman, people that have nothing to do
today? If I could use them, Mr. Morgenthau - or my
good friend Jack So-and-so of the Packard Motor Car
Company--" He would know these fellows who are in this,

and I am going on the theory right along that it takes a
certain type of man to make the sale, irrespective of
the merchandise. But being a consultant, it wouldn't.
disturb anybody.

MR. GRAVES: It would be very good.

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- 22 H.M.JR: This is a counter move on my part as
against the thought that I must take a New York banker

in to direct these sales, which I won't do. I am

being very honest with you. Instead of taking a man
like different people they have suggested and tried to
force on me, well, this would be an answer. "Well, I
agree with you that it is good to have outsiders come
in and take a look at us, therefore I have asked" there may be a sales managers' organization, I don't

know, but I will ask one or two to come in. I do think

Mr. Grant, or the sales manager of Packard Motors, or
the sales manager of Ford might be able to tell me
something.

MR. GRAVES: I do, too.

H.M.JR: And particularly, for instance, this last

suggestion that George Haas made last night about in-

stallment payments - I told him to write it out - that
we try to get these organizations to take up installment
payment of bonds and carry on the same technique, using

their organization for that. I mean, you can no longer

buy an icebox; get that same group to continue payments
on the bonds.

MR. GRAVES: We have done something along that line.
The General Motors Acceptance Corporation came to us

with a great big plan; they wanted to put in that very
thing, and Mr. Sloan turned it down.
H.M.JR: Which Sloan?
MR. GRAVES: The Chairman of General Motors.

MR. BELL: This is foreign to the banks.
H.M.JR: George is going to write it out and send
it in to you. We should, I know, sit down and talk with

Eccles. I am pleased with this morning's meeting.

MR. BELL: I would like to see that done just with
Eccles. The group ought to be here Tuesday or Wednesday.

23

- 23 H.M.JR: I have got Grant coming in at-MR. BELL: Do you want me to talk to Eccles and

get his reaction to it, to save your time?

H.M.JR: I am free at eleven-thirty. I shouldn't

think that that Truman Committee would take over half

an hour, would you?

MR. BELL: No, I shouldn't think so.
H.M.JR: See if you can get Eccles over here at
eleven-thirty.
MR. BELL: Shouldn't he just come alone?

H.M.. JR: Yes. All right. This was a good meeting,
don't you think so? Are you satisfied?
MR. GRAVES: I am satisfied.
MR. BUFFINGTON: Yes.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

November 6, 1942
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

The following information regarding the LaGuardia story
is based, for the most part, on facts supplied by Dick Patterson

and his organization in New York.

1. Background. The War Savings Staff in New York has been

trying for the past nine months to get the Mayor to install a
Payroll Savings Plan for municipal employees. Col. Patterson
has talked to the Mayor about it at least three times, and

others of his staff have also seen him. The Mayor was always
cordial but always gave the excuse about lack of machinery.
The Herald Tribune and the Daily News learned of the situation
(not from Patterson's organization) and on Tuesday asked Patterson

for a statement. Patterson declined to talk, saying that the

newspapers should ask the Mayor for comment instead. At the same
time Bruce Smith, of the Patterson organization, telephoned

Lester Stone, the Mayor's secretary, to tip him off to the fact

that the newspapers had the story and that the War Savings Staff

had had no part in giving it to them. Stone said he appreciated
the tip. The result was the Mayor's statement yesterday which
precipitated publication of the story.
The Herald Tribune story. The facts attributed to the
Treasury Department in this morning's story are correct, except

2.

that the number of employees exposed to Payroll Savings in
New York State is 4,257,155. Our people have checked the Mayor's
statement, and find that in 72 City of New York departments the
total sales for September were $444,135 and for August $515,026.
This is exclusive of the Board of Education, the Park Department
and the Board of Transportation. The Board of Education says
that its employees are responsible for sales of about $1,000,000
a month.

Our people, in other words, believe the Mayor's figures are

fairly accurate. They think, however, that if the Mayor would
install a Payroll Savings Plan he would sell at least $30,000,000

a year instead of the $16,000,000 or $17,000,000 he is now selling.

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3. Tabulating Machinery. Our people in New York and Washington
believe the Mayor has made no serious attempt before now to
get the machines which he says he needs. It is our contention,

as pointed out in the Tribune story, that the City could do

much with its present equipment if the Mayor so desired.

Controller McGoldrick, who was here yesterday, told
Peter Odegard that the Victory Tax would necessitate new
accounting machinery, and that this, in turn, would make

possible the installation of a Payroll Savings Plan for

War Bonds. McGoldrick was pessimistic, however, about the

dollar yield to be expected from a Payroll Savings Plan in

view of the cost of living, the Victory Tax, and the static
salaries of city employees.

4. Public Statement. Col. Patterson and his staff suggest

that you make NO public statement on the subject at this time.

I agree, since it appears likely that the City will soon
install its Payroll Savings Plan at last.

F.I.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Ferdinand Kuhn

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

November 6, 1942

Please read the story in today's Tribune about Mayor
LaGuardia in the City of New York and War Bonds. Get all

the details from the New York office. Also, there 18 a
telegram from Mayor LaGuardia to me which Dan Bell has, ask-

ing for help to get him certain office machinery to handle

the tax bill next year. I don't know just what the status
of that 18. But if New York has taken a fight on with
Mayor LaGuardia, I'll have to get in on it sooner or later.
I want you to have all the facts for me just as soon as
possible and not later than this afternoon, 80 if necessary
we can make a public statement. Be sure and get this to
me not later than three o'clock this afternoon.

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Analysis of Exposure to Payroll Savings Plans
October 31, 1942

Number exposed

Total number

savings plans

country
(estimated)

to payroll

Percent

in the

of total
exposed

Part A - Summary by Number of Organizations Exposed

I. Business organizations
(1) Firms with 5,000 employees or more
(2) Firms with 500 to 4,999 employees
(3) Firms with 100 to 499 employees

488

491

99

5,551
24,542

5,905
28,357

94

(4) Subtotal - large firms

30,581

34,753

88

124,038

(6) Total business organizations

154,619

#

(5) Firms with less than 100 employees

87

II. Governmental organizations

III. Grand total

154,619

Part B - Summary by Number of Employees Exposed

I. Business organizations

(5) Firms with less than 100 employees

20,779,649

3,064,875

.

(4) Subtotal - large firms

7,877,131
7,319,199
5,583,319

*

(1) Firms with 5,000 employees or more
(2) Firms with 500 to 4,999 employees
(3) Firms with 100 to 499 employees

23,844,524

32,800,000 1

73

2,700,000 1
2,800,000

81

(2) State and local government

2,181,131
1,395,423

(3) Total governmental organizations

3,576,554

5,500,000

65

(6) Total business organizations
II. Governmental organizations
(1) Federal Government

III. Grand total

Treasury Department
1

27,421,078

50

38,300,000 1

72

November 6, 1942

Excludes agricultural employees, military personnel, employees on WPA or NYA or CCC projects,
proprietors, firm members, self-employed, casual workers and persons in domestic service.
Data not available.

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Firms Employing 100 to 499 Persons Participating in Payroll Savings Plans
(As reported by the War Savings Staff's State Administrators)
Number of firms with payroll

Total

savings plans

:
State

Apr.18

Oct. 24

number

Oct. 31

of firms
(estimated)

Percent of total having payroll
savings plans

Apr. 18

Oct. 24

Oct. 31

Alabama

149

251

253

285

52

Arisona

43

68

70

70

61

59

120

37

47

49

707+

707

??

100

100

64

88

88

96

96

Arkansas

44

56

Northern California
Southern California

512

707

756

1,036

1,040

1,178

Colorado

113

136

136

141

80

540

544
58

711

39

Connecticut

58

87

24

52

152

152e

199

26

Florida

147

211

214

214

69

Georgia

133

391

391

417

32

31

33

33

33

Idaho

Illinois

89

97

100

77

211
21

Delaware

District of Columbia

88

692
67

96
99

76

100

94

94

100

100

1,300

1,969

2,022

2,253

58

87

90

Indiana

415

663

663

63

100

100

Iowa

165

207

663
207

305

54

68

68

Kansas

276
136
179

287
210

290

99

99

210

288

75

277

324

85

60

277
173

173*

189

92

92

177

336

339

405

83

84

Massachusetta

639

1,102

1,117

Michigan
Minnesota

689

985

991

1,532
1,030

67

376

440

who

441

85

59

86

88

104

83

Missouri

472

676

680

686

99

100

Montana
Nebraska

40

49

49

49

82

100

100

103

129

131

139

74

93

94

14

20

28

50

71

89

141

142

145

61

97

463

965

966

966

48

99

100

33

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Maryland

Mississippi

Nevada

New Hampshire
New Jersey

287

20*

72

73

96

96

99
988

71
98

41

hi

42

79

98

98

2,060

3,793

3,823

4,257

48

89

90

282

474

563

50

14

471
20

20

20

70

100

100

1,126

1,698

1,731

2,195

52

77

79

Oklahoma

166

298

299

349

48

85

86

Oregon

211

293

293

293

72

100

100

1,682

2,224

2,242

2,242

99

154

270

270

155

155

341
169

92

92

84

100

100

38

37

New Mexico
New York

North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio

Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah

Vermont

Virginia

71

21

25

25

199

400

405

326

654

36

44

25

522

674

1,378
82

100

100

67

74

80

91

91

59

67

281

400

400

428

66

93
99

100

70

70

Washington

234

352

356

356

134

215

215*

309

43

680

278

473

475

17

23

23

Alaska

Railroads
Total

78
49

West Virginia
Wyoming

100
79

66

Wisconsin

84

2

2a

2

49

49

15,365

321

23

24,542

2

28,357

Treasury Department

. Data are for October 24, inasmuch as no October 31 report was received.

100

93

70

70

100

100

100

100

94

94

86

87

November 6, 1942

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Firms Employing 500 Persons or More Participating in Payroll Savings Plans
(As reported by the War Savings Staff's State Administrators)
Number of firms with payroll
State

Alabama

savings plans

Apr. 18
41

Colorado
Connecticut

(estimated)

66
14

16

17

18

122

142

142e

149

149

153

121

Percent of total having payroll
Apr. 18

savings plans
Oct. 24

Oct. 31

69

59

94

96

14

64

100

100

18

89

94

175

100

70

81

81

79

97

97

81

100

100

25

31

31

31

114

152

152

167

68

91

91

18

18

18

83

100

100

Delaware

15

Florida

28

District of Columbia

of firms

65
2

Northern California
Southern California

Oct. 31

14

Arisona
Arkansas

Oct. 24

Total
number

32

45

45*

47

68

96

96

43

43

47

60

91

91

Georgia

86

123

123

123

70

100

100

Illinois

11

11

11

11

100

391

481

100

100

487

560

70

86

88

141

142

87

165

53

85

86

31

31

44

50

70

70

Idaho

Indiana
Iowa

22

Kansas

23

25

25

Kentucky

38

44

49

92

100

100

78

100

100

51

57

100

100

58#

8*

100

100

100

100

49

Louisiana

29

Maine

48

JAM

Maryland

84

109

109

109

77

237
265

315

315
284

338

70

284

Mississippi

Missouri

73

92

92

75

100

100
100

100

100
100

32

91

100

100
100

74

99

99

100

100

100

79

94

94

74

97

97

81

81

33

33

33

103

131

131

142

27

27

,

New Jersey

100
100

100

79

81

26

23

Nevada

New Hampshire

93

100

79

Montana

Nebraska

93

100

284

4

27

NO

4

8

4.

4

4

Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota

29

32

32

142

190

191

192

759

898

898

95

103

136

136

140

New Mexico
5

North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio

Oklahoma
Oregon

0

0

o

0

New York

100

-

412

483

484

509

81

95

95

31

51

51

51

61

100

100

48

55

55

55

87

100

100

551

61h

614

652

85

94

94

61

77

77

86

71

90

90

84

98

98

100

84

98

98

Tennessee

100

100

100

50

85

86

92

Texas

54

92

93

63

116

117

118

53

98

99

10

10

10

80

100

100

12

12

12

100

100

100

111

100

South Dakota

5

12

Virginia

5

Utah.
Vermont

5

Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina

Washington

110

111

84

99

49

West Virginia

73

73

73

67

100

100

36

75

75

75

48

100

100

127

150

147

154

1

Alaska

30

3

3

Wisconsin

Wyoming

82

95

25

100

100

100

100

100

97

3

Railroads

109

109

109

115

95

95

95

Total

864

6,022

6,039

6,396

76

94

94

Treasury Department
.

Data are for October 24, inasmuch as no October 31 report was received,

November 6, 1942

30

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

November 6, 1942.

You asked me to do everything possible to get the story
of the October financing into the weekly newspapers, and you

asked for a written report.

1. Harold Mager has written an article which the editor
of New Republic assures us will definitely appear in
next week's issue, leading off with a tribute to
your achievement in keeping the interest rate at 2 percent, and supporting your efforts to cut down consumer
spending. He wrote this as an independent writer and

not as a Treasury consultant. The article was, therefore,
not submitted to us before being mailed, but I have seen

it and think it will be most useful.

Chic Schwarz talked to Keith Hutchison, the financial
writer of The Nation, who was much interested in the

October financing story and asked for full particulars
so that he could write a piece about it.

2. The story of borrowing $6,800,000,000 in one month will
not appeal as such to the labor press. The thing to
emphasize here is the 2 percent interest rate and its
importance to the working men and women of the country.

Herman Wolf, labor man with the War Savings Staff, is
having an informal meeting with C.I.O. editors at the
C.I.O. convention in Boston on Monday, and will discuss

this story with them, with the help of material which

we are supplying.

3. Mr. Wolf made the excellent suggestion that you have

a little press conference of six key labor editors

the week after the C.I.O. convention, on November 16th
or subsequent days. Herbert Gaston, Randolph Paul and

the rest of our publicity group agree that this is
highly desirable. If you would set a date for such a

meeting, we can get out preliminary material to the
six people, with emphasis on the 2 percent interest
rate.

F.K.

31

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 6,
1942

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

Mr. Haas

Subject: Recent Changes in Prices and Yields of Government
Securities

During the week ended last night, there was little
showing no change. The restricted 2-1/2's of 1962-67 improved 3/32 during the week, the largest move registered
by any issue, to close last night at 100-12/32 bid,

movement in the prices of Government securities, most issues

100-18/32 asked, a mean of 100-15/32*. The taxable 2-1/2's
of 1967-72 closed yesterday at 101, down 1/32 from a week
ago, while the taxable 1-1/2 percent notes, due in December
1946, remained unchanged at 100-1/32.

Of the 46 securities listed in Table II, which were

outstanding on March 19, 22 have higher yields now than in
March, 4 have the same yields, and 20 have lower yields.
Only 6 of the 46 securities, however, have higher prices
now than in March. The difference is due to the amortization factor previously discussed in a number of memoranda

of this series. (See attached chart and tables.)

Certificates of indebtedness showed some improvement
during the week, the new 7/8 percent issue due November

1943 closing last night at 100.066 to yield 0.81 percent
as compared with a yield of 0.84 percent a week ago. For

the fourth successive week, the average rate on the weekly

offering of bills was 0.373 percent.

Purchases by the Federal Reserve Banks for their
individual investment accounts and for the System Account
aggregated $456 millions during the week ended last night.

They consisted of $192 millions of bills, $216 millions of
certificates, $32 millions of taxable notes and bonds, and
$16 millions of partially tax-exempt issues. Sales, confined
*

All quotations in this memorandum and the accompanying

tables, unless otherwise specified, are mean of closing

bid and asked quotations.

32

Secretary Morgenthau - 2

entirely to bills, amounted to $127 millions. Maturities
included $124 millions of bills and $287 millions of certificates, $158 millions of which were exchanged for the new
certificates. (Federal had tendered the entire amount but
was allotted only $158 millions.) As a result of these
transactions total Federal Reserve holdings of Government
securities decreased $82 millions during the week.
The condition statement of the twelve Federal Reserve
Banks, released today, shows an increase of $110 millions
in the Federal Reserve portfolio during the week ended on
Wednesday. The difference between this and the figure just
quoted is due to the fact that the data used in this memorandum are for a week ended on Thursday rather than on
Wednesday, and are on a "transaction date" basis rather

than on a "delivery date" basis. The combined effect of
these two differences is to make the figures cited in this

memorandum about two days more up-to-date than those used in
the condition statement.

Attachments

Table I

33

Price and Yield Changes of United States Securities
October 29, 1942 to November 5, 1942
(Based on mean of closing bid and asked quotations)

Yields

Prices

Security

Oct. 29, 1942

Nov. 5, 1942

Change

Oct. 29, 1942

Nov. 5, 1942

Change

(Percent)

(Decimals are thirty-seconds) 1
TAXABLE SECURITIES

7/8

Taxable Notes

3/15/46
12/15/46
1-1/2
Taxable Bonds
3/15/48-50
6/15/49-51
9/15/49-51
2

2

2-1/2

2-1/4
2-1/2

2-1/2
2-1/2

12/15/49-51
3/15/50-52
12/15/51-55
3/15/52-54
6/15/52-55
3/15/56-58
6/15/62-67
9/15/67-72

.37

.00

+.009

43

.37

+.014

.63

.60

-.06
-.03

+.002
+.031

.72

.72

.00

.84wi

.81

-.03

-

Certificates

.37

-

Average rate last issue

-

Bills

100.051
100.012
100.115
100.035w1

100.026
100.117
100.066

100.03
99.21
100.00
98.30
99.05
100.01

100.03
99.21
100.01
98.30
99.05
100.01

101.05
100.11
100.07
100.05
100.01
100.01
103.24
101.08
103.09
100.12
101.01

100.060

.00

.50

.94

49
.94

-.01

.00
+.01

1.25

1.24

-.01

.00
.00

1.10

1.10
1.26

.00

1.26

.00

1.49

1.49

.00

101.06
100.11
100.08
100.05

+.01

1.77

.00

1.94

1.77
1.94

.00

+.01

1.97
1.98

1.96

-.01

1.98

.00

100.02
100.01
103.24
101.08
103.09
100.15
101.00

+.01
.00

2.00

-.01

2.00

1.99
2.00

.00

2.06

2.06

.00

2.11
2.22
2.48

2.11
2.21
2.47

-.01
-.01

2.44

2.45

+.01

.00

.00
+.03

-.01

.00

.00

.00

.00
.00
.00

TAX-EXEMPT SECURITIES

Wholly Tax-exempt Notes
12/15/42
1-1/8
6/15/43
9/15/43
1-1/8
3/4

12/15/43

3/15/44
6/15/44
9/15/44
3/15/45

Partially Tax-exempt Bonda
6/15/43-47

3-1/8

2-3/4

2-1/2
3-1/8
2-1/2
2-1/2

2-3/4
2-1/4

10/15/43-45
4/15/44-46
12/15/44-54
9/15/45-47
12/15/45
3/15/46-56
6/15/46-48
6/15/46-49
10/15/47-52
12/15/47
3/15/48-51
9/15/48
12/15/48-50
12/15/49-52
12/15/49-53
9/15/50-52
6/15/51-54
9/15/51-5
12/15/51-53

2

2-1/4
2-7/8
2-3/4
2-3/4
2-3/4

6/15/54-56
3/15/55-60
9/15/56-59
6/15/58-63
12/15/60-65

-.01

26

.28

+.02

.00
.00
.00

.37

.35

.32

.32

100.23
100.13
100.30
100.13

.00

.48

.31
.30
.47

-.02
-.01
-.02
-.01

.00
.00

.50
.50

.50
.49

-.01

.00

.58

.58

.00

101.24
102.16
103.20
106.15
104.31
104.19

-.02

108.27

.00

100.06
100.15
100.19
100.29
100.23
100.13
100.30
100.13

100.05

101.26
102.16
103.20
106.16
105.00
104.19
108.27
106.26
107.06
114.16
104.04
107.15
106.30
104.05
110.18
106.04
106.15
108.04
110.09
104.28
103.14
105.08
109.19
108.28
109.00
109.19

100.15

100.19
100.29

106.25
107.06
114.15
104.06
107.15
106.30
104.06
110.18
106.04
106.15
108.04
110.09
104.28
103.14
105.08
109.18
108.28
109.00
109.18

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.

Decimals in prices of certificates are true decimals.

.00

47

.48

+.01

.00

.63

.58

.00

.75

-.01
-.01

.71
.89

-.05
-.04
-.02

.98

.98

.00

1.00

.99

1.08
1.08

1.06
1.08
1.09
1.22
1.15
1.30

-.01
-.02

-.01
-.01
-.02
-.01

.00

-.01
.00

-.01
+.02
.00
.00

+.01
.00
.00

.00
.00
.00
.00
.00

.00

-.01
.00

.00
-.01

.91

1.10
1.23
1.17
1.31
1.27

1.29
1.55
1.59
1.62
1.73
1.74
1.67
1.65
1.75
2.00
2.01
2.07
2.11

.00

1.27

.00

1.29
1.55
1.59
1.62

.00
.00

1.73

.00

.00
.00

1.74

.00

1.67

.00

1.65
1.75
2.00
2.01

.00
.00
.00
.00

2.07

.00
.00

2.11

November 5, 1942.

1

Table II

34

Price and Yield Changes of United States Securities
March 19, 1942 to November 5, 1942

(Based on mean of closing bid and asked quotations)

Yields

Prices

Security

March 19, 1942

Nov. 5, 1942

(Decimals are thirty -seconds

Change

March 19, 1942

1/

Nov. 5, 1942
(Percent)

Change

TAXABLE SECURITIES

.49

+.12

+.18

1.24

1.83

.84

1.67
-

-

-

100.15

-

+.02
+.04

+.24

1.77
1.94

+.11

+.10

1.96
1.98
1.99
2.00
2.06

1.96
2.09
2.12
2.24

-2.11
2.21

2.46

2.47
2.45

-

+.05

+.26

1.10
1.26
1.49

-

-

-.22
-.25

+.01

-

.94

1.02

-.11

-

-

.37

-.23
-.24

-

.37
.60
.72
.81

.76

-

101.00

-.09
-.10

-

-

6/15/52-55
3/15/56-58
6/15/62-67
9/15/67-72

-

-

-

2
2
2

2-1/4

2-1/2
2-1/2
2-1/2

52-54

-

-

-

-

12/15/51-55

-

100.27

50-52

-

-

-

-

100.12
103.23
101.06
103.05

12/15/49-51

-

6/15/49-51
9/15/49-51

101.06
100.11
100.08
100.05
100.02
100.01
103.24
101.08
103.09

101.28
101.04

-

99.21
99.29

1-1/2 12/15/46
xable Bonds

2-1/2

100.03
99.21
100.01
98.30
99.05
100.01

100.12
99.31

12/15/45
3/15/46

100.026
100.117
100.066

+.17

-

100.060

.37

-

7/8

xable Notes

.20

-

-

-

-

Average rate last issue

-

ills

+.04

-.03
-.01
-.03
-.01

TAX-EXEMPT SECURITIES

holly

Tax-exempt Notes

1-1/8
1-1/8

9/15/44
3/15/45
Tax-exempt Bonds

101.11

101.04
101.03
101.16
101.10
100.27
101.16
101.00
103.21

2-3/4

4/15/44-46
12/15/44-54
9/15/45-47
12/15/45
3/15/46-56
46-48
46-49
47-52
47

48-51

104.06
105.06

108.11
106.06

105.28
110.08
107.28
108.08
115.20
104.23
107.28

48

107.07

48-50
49-52

104.21
110.22
106.16
106.20
108.18
110.20

51-54

104.29

56-59
60-65

103.10
104.28
110.00
109.10
109.12
110.00

100.05
100.15
100.19

100.29
100.23
100.13

100.30
100.13
101.24
102.16
103.20
106.15
104.31
104.19
108.27
106.25

107.06
114.15
104.06
107.15
106.30
104.06
110.18

106.04
106.15
108.04
110.09
104.28
103.14
105.08
109.18
108.28
109.00
109.18

ment, Division of Research and Statistics.

prices of certificates are true decimals.
rice over zero yield.

-3/32*

-1.06
-.21
-.16
-.19
-.19
-.14
-,18
-.19

2/32*

.28

.22

.35

+.13

.26

31

+.05

-1.29
-1.22
-1.18
-1.28
-1.07
-1.09
-1.13
-1.03
-1.02
-1.05
-.17
-.13
-.09
-.15
-.04
-.12
-.05
-.14
-.11
-.01
+.04
+.12

-.14
-.14
-.12
-.14

.26

.30

+.04

.34

.47

.37

.50

.39
.41

.49

+.13
+.13
+.10

.58

+.17

.41

.48

+.07

.57

+.01

.72

.58
.71

.91

.89

.94

.98
.99

.90

1.11
1.09
1.13

1.33
1.15
1.38
1.33
1.28

1.65
1.60
1.66
1.74
1.78
1.70
1.68
1.80
2.00

1.06
1.08
1.09
1.22
1.15
1.30
1.27

1.29
1.55
1.59
1.62
1.73

1.74
1.67

1.65
1.75
2.00

-.01
-.02
+.04
+.09

-.05
-.01

-.04
-.11
.00

-.08

-.06
+.01

-.10
-.01
-.04
-.01
-.04
-.03
-.03
-.05

2.01
2.07

2.01
2.07

.00
.00
.00

2.10

2.11

+.01

November 5, 1942.

35

November 6, 1942
11:00 a.m.
AMERICAN VISCOSE COMPANY

Present:

Mr. Bell

Mr. White
Mr. Cairns

Mr. Fulton
Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR: You ask me the questions, and then I

will answer to the best of my ability.

MR. FULTON: I might first give you a short
thumbnail sketch of the extent of the interest that
Senator Truman had expressed in it.

Last year at the time of the sale he was aware of
the fact that there were at least contentions that
the bankers had made a very large profit, and Mr.
Jesse Jones had discussed with him the possibility of
putting up a loan which would be collateralized or
secured.

H.M.JR: Mr. Jones had?

MR. FULTON: Yes, with British-held American

securities, the basis being that perhaps the bankers

were somewhat avaricious in the amounts which they had

made on this particular transaction. Senator Truman's
interest was not so deep that he went into it beyond
understanding that there had been provision made for

such a loan by, I think, the RFC.

Recently - that is, within the last few months -

a rather prominent banker, who requested that his name

not be mentioned, said that he thought that a very
great deal of damage had been done by the relatively
high amounts paid by the American bankers in this

36

-2particular transaction. Senator Truman, therefore,
wanted to find out, not the amount of the banking
profit, but the justification underlying the amounts

which they had. He had somewhat this idea in mind,

that a loan secured by British securities is really a
paper transaction until and unless the British ultimately
sell the securities in this country and repay the loan
or obtain dollar exchange from some other source.

He thought that your initial idea, perhaps - or

what he thought was your idea - of having an orderly

disposition on fair terms of large blocks of British

securities would have been preferable, in the sense
that when they were so disposed of the dollar exchange

could have been applied to the war effort. In the

loan transaction, involving such huge sums as it does,
it might after the war become a question of discussions
between the governments as to the disposition of the
loan, and that might ultimately be much less satisfactory
from the American standpoint than the proposal which
he thought you had had in mind of disposing of the
securities.

It, therefore, is not so much a question of
criticizing at this late date the exact amount of

profit obtained by the bankers, although some of the
Senators might be inclined to do that - and as to that
we have taken no position to date - but it was more

nearly the thought of whether it is not possible to

have something somewhat more satisfactory. Could not
the bankers, for example, make proposals as to the

methods of dealing? I don't mean necessarily the
syndicate involved here, but I mean the banking groups
in the country as a whole, could they not make an
orderly sale of substantial blocks on terms that would

be far better to the -British than the terms in the

American Viscose and which would yet produce for us
exchange that could then be applied to the RFC loan?

H.M.JR: As I get it, this present question in the

Senator's mind was raised by a banker. Is that right?

37

-3MR. FULTON: That is correct.

H.M.JR: And do I also understand correctly that
originally when the thing went through, Mr. Jones

went to Senator Truman about it?

MR. FULTON: No, I think that Senator Truman had

asked Mr. Jones about it, but that Mr. Jones had
expressed to him the opinion that the amount was rather

large, that is, the amount of the bankers' profit.

H.M.JR: Well now, this is what I have, from
memory and reading the thing up. We have got to go
back to the first Lend-Lease, you see. At that time
when I went up there it was new and difficult, and so
forth, and we were not in the war, and a lot of people
did not want us to get in the war. I made the statement

that the British would sell all of their assets in this

country; they would put them all on the table for me
against contracts that they had already outstanding in
this country for munitions. I assured the Senators

that the British would do this in good faith. I stated
the amount, which, as I remember, was over a billion
dollars, wasn't it?
MR. BELL: A billion four, I think.
H.M.JR: What I am saying now is for you and the

Senator only. If he wants to use it, I would like to

talk with him. I had the damndest time to get the
British to sell anything. They fussed around, and this

was wrong and that was wrong, and so forth, and so on.

I finally more or less gave them an ultimatum and
said to them, "You have got to sell something in order
to show the Congress of the United States that when

I said that your securities were on the table as a pledge,
you meant it, as a matter of good faith and relationship
between the two countries. I don't care what you sell

or how you sell it." Well, they said, "The market is
bad." It was bad. I said, "You have got to sell something."

Then they picked J.P. Morgan, and I told them that that

38

-4 was a great mistake. Right or wrong the present

generation of Morgans made great moneys out of the

last war - excess profits, and 80 forth, and so on.

It was a bad mistake. Whereupon they said that
the two representatives of the Treasury that they had
met had told them Morgan was all right, and they
thought they were speaking for me, which they weren't.

Well, it finally got so bad that I had to give

them a week's ultimatum. I said, "You have got exactly
a week in which to do this," and they went ahead and
rushed the thing through and made the arrangements

with Morgan and Dillon, Read. After I learned what

the commission was, I was very much shocked and told

them that this was entirely too much - the price I mean the commission - and again for better feeling
I said, "Some day this is going to come out; some day
this is going to be investigated," and I said, "You
are doing yourself and the banking fraternity a great
injury, and you ought to take considerable less.
They wrote off - took a million less, and then I begged
them to knock off another million. Dillon, Read and
Morgan agreed to it, but they said that their other
twenty-eight or twenty-seven partners said it was too
late, they would not agree to it. They were willing,
Morgan and Dillon, Read.

MR. BELL: The other members of the syndicate weren't.
MR. FULTON: You see, I have had the advantage of

talking with the Dort firm, representing Dillon, Read,

with whom I am very close by reason of my past contacts.
What you have said tallies almost exactly with what they
have said. They stated that they had no knowledge of

the transaction until almost the time that they were
required to do it.

I believe that in this letter, which I received

on the 4th of November from Morgan Stanley, they stated

that they had only four days, and that with that very

limited amount of time and with what they regarded
anyhow as the unsatisfactory knowledge of facts underlying

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the company, by reason of not having had their own
auditors and their own check, also by people whom

they would trust the judgment of as to the future of

the industry and the company, that they could not make
an offer which would have been anywhere near as good

as an offer which would have had more time. As a

result, they, in effect, I think I can fairly say,

admitted that the amount paid - that is, the original
thirty-six or thirty-seven million - was regarded by
them as the equivalent of a fully secured loan. Then
the actual sale price would be determined. That is,

the actual purchase price by them to the British would
be determined by the sale price obtained by them in

selling the securities. That being so, the ten percent

which they originally arranged to receive of the excess
of the sale price would seem to have been, as you say,
a very generous commission on their part. And yet

they cite the fact that they had to tie up a very considerable portion of their capital for a period of at

least two months, and possibly longer, and that although

it would be in all like lihood fully secured, it would

not have been within the normal business of those firms

to make loans of that character for so long a time.

H.M.JR: That refreshes my memory, but that is
correct. They say normally their own capital is really
never involved.
Now, we submitted the thing at the time to the SEC
and the SEC said that the charges that they made were

normal practice for banking houses in Wall Street. I

mean that that would be the normal fee, you see.

MR, FULTON: I don't quite understand that. I am
thinking from the standpoint of what little knowledge
I have in the past.

H.M.JR: Am I right in that?
MR. WHITE: Quite right. They thought it was a

little bit on the up side.

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MR. CAIRNS: It was not unusual.

H.M.JR: That was what the SEC told me. I have
never been in this business, you see.
MR. FULTON: Are there other transactions? 1 have
never myself known of one where a purchase was made

with the idea of selling at a higher price and basing
your commission on the sliding scale that they have
there. Are there other transactions similar to this?
MR. BELL: They were talking about the amount,
weren't they?
MR. WHITE: That was the report made at the time
by the man who was in charge at SEC. You had asked

him to look into it for the very reason that you just
suggested, and that was his reply. He talked it over
with some of the other members of the Commission, and

he said, "It is a little high. It is on the up side,
but that is not unusual practice in the Street."

MR. FULTON: I think I would probably tend to
agree with that as to the amount of the underwriting

commission as figured on the total sales price as it
ultimately turned out, and not being out of line

percentage-wise, although perhaps being out of line
dollar-wise because of the magnitude of the transaction.

Our problem was not so much to determine whether per-

centage-wise it was out of line as whether the formula

under which the matter was contracted by the bankers
was not unduly favorable to them.

H.M.JR: Well, I thought it was juicy. After they
cut off the first million, against the advice of my

associates I got them in the room here alone and begged

them to knock off another million. To give Morgan,
Stanley and Dillon, Read credit, they tried to make
the effort. They said, "So far as we are concerned we

are willing to do it, but we couldn't get the other
syndicate members to agree."

MR. FULTON: That is my understanding.

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-7H.M.JR: Now, just to go on a minute, there

are lots of by-products. If you want to go into it
fully, all right, but a lot of things happened. There

were a lot of forces which were trying to keep me from

doing, this. If the committee wants it, all right; but
I don t know how far they want to go. That is the price
story.

I told this as to the amount they were getting.

I said that even if they were getting ten or fifteen
million dollars less - now we are forgetting the bankers the British Treasury - than the thing is worth, the
matter of the good faith of the British Government is
at stake. I said, "What the hell is ten or fifteen
million dollars as compared to my saying that all of
your securities would be put up against a billion four
hundred million contracts which you have outstanding?"
When the deal was finished, Sir Edward Peacock

said, "I am satisfied, and Lord Halifax said, "I am
satisfied for the British Government." He said, "We
are satisfied."
glad we did it; it was the right thing to do; we
are
MR. FULTON: Our problem was not so much--

H.M.JR: There are two factors in this thing:
One, the price that they obtained, and then the profit
that the bankers got. I don't know how far you want

to go into it, but as far as my part in the profit
thing - I have told you the thing roughly. I have

got the details, a record, if you want them. My books

are open.

it.

MR. FULTON: Yes, I understand that, and I appreciate

Now, with respect to the price obtained for the
British - of course, the disparity between the amount

which the Courtauld Company obtained in pounds from

the British makes a rather great contrast. There was a
discussion between myself and the attorneys for Dillon,
Read as to whether they were sure that they had obtained

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-8the highest price possible in dollars here, to which
they replied that they probably had obtained the
highest price consistent with their ideas as to how
the company should properly be financed; that is, with
a very large amount of the financing of the common
stock, and only a small part preferred stock, and no
bonded indebtedness. They thought that they had made

an offering of bonds as distinct from preferred stock.

They could have obtained more in dollars, but would
have had a less sound enterprise, for which they might
have to explain themselves to their own security
holders and customers at a later time. That was also
somewhat complicated by the possible offer which arose
at the time from other minority stockholders who were

afraid that although their stock was not involved in

the transaction, the transaction would, in effect, fix
the price or value of their securities for a long time

to come.

The real damage is the one, I think, that you
referred to and is more nearly the one that the
committee was interested in, and that is that by not
getting as low a profit to the bankers and as high

a price as possible, you, in effect, find yourself
in the position where the British are reluctant to
sell their securities as distinct from pledging.
H.M.JR: No.
MR. WHITE: No.

H.M.JR: No, no. What happened after that was
they went ahead and sold a lot of securities on the
market and sold them by this new method that they have
of selling after the stock exchange closes, you know.
MR. FULTON: Some, I understand, have been sold

by Morgan Stanley and Dillon, Read - relatively small.
H.M.JR: They spread it all around.
MR. BELL: They sold big blocks.

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H.M.JR: And this particular thing had no effect
on their continuing to sell just as long as the market
would absorb, up to the time that it was decided that
what was a residue would be put up as pledges, and they
got a four-hundred-million-dollar loan from the RFC
on the whole block.

MR. FULTON: With respect to that, would it be

your opinion that it would be possible to liquidate
or, if possible, desirable?
H.M.JR: What is happening on that?

MR. WHITE: The British have, and did have very

early, a considerable reluctance to part with certain
types of securities. They didn't mind parting with
the securities of very large companies, and they did
as they went along, but things like Viscose and others

which they now have they never displayed any eagerness

to part with. They parted with Viscose with great
reluctance, irrespective of the price they would have

gotten for it, and, I think they would be most reluctant
to be forced to sell what they have now. They would

much prefer to have the present arrangement, possibly

for the very reason that you suggested earlier.

I noticed an editorial just last week in the British

papers in which for the first time, to my knowledge,
they raised the question of equal sacrifices by various
governments in line with the Atlantic Charter and that
maybe they ought to get their earning assets back, their
securities back.
H.M.JR: Then you saw where they asked me about

some admiral or general in this country, English, who
said, "Can you put a dollar value on Lend-Lease and

compare it with blood, the loss of life, and so forth?"
But I don't think - I am confident that the people in
responsible positions who have anything to do with

this deal realized the wisdom of getting it through.

It was to demonstrate that they would keep good faith.

It was terribly important at that time.

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- 10 MR. FULTON: I don't think that Senator Truman
has ever questioned that.
H.M.JR: Lord Halifax and Sir Edward Peacock
assured me when the thing was over that they were

satisfied. That closed that.

Now, there were people in England - people in
this country who wanted to get hold of Viscose for

monopolistic reasons. They would like to get it tie it up with other yarn concerns, and so forth,

and so on. I, frankly, forced the sale through. I
had to do it. I mean, here I was, the Secretary of

the Treasury, saying that the British were going to

meet their contracts through money that they were
going to realize through the sale of American

securities owned by British citizens; and they just
had to go through with it.
MR. WHITE: You forced the sale, but it is not
the same; they selected the security. All you

insisted on, you remember, was that they sell something.

H.M.JR: I said "sale," and I finally gave them
a week. As I said, these people - they had four days.
If I had to do the thing over from the beginning, I
would do it just the same, and then try to get just
as much out of it for them. I put all the pressure
that I could, way beyond what my associates thought I

should, to get the bankers to cut down their profits.
Now, as far as getting dollar exchange and all

that thing, the thing now is going ahead in a fairly
orderly manner. I don't think that, as far as I can
tell, this particular sale has subsequently influenced
what they did. They realized the political necessity.
MR. FULTON: Yes. On the balance of the securities,
the residue, do you believe that it might not become
the subject of Government discussions as to the cancellation of the four hundred odd million dollar loan of
a later date?

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- 11 H.M.JR: Well, I am not up to date. We had some
word from Jones before I went to England. What is the
last word on that? Do either of you know? Have they
sold any of those?

MR. WHITE: Very little.
MR. BELL: They sold some.

MR. WHITE: Most of it is unsold. They have

taken, I think, all except possibly ten million

dollars. There is no question yet, to my knowledge,
of any prospect of immediate liquidation in order
to repay the loan.
MR. FULTON: I see. Of course, there is always
that worry, the argument you mentioned, that they
raised, about it being a subject of discussion which

might come at an embarrassing time from the Government

standpoint. The British, in effect, might request a

return of the securities without making payment therefor, or if they did make payment therefor by that
amount, reducing their ability and their willingness
to make some other payment which this Government might
have in mind at the time.

H.M.JR: Well, the securities are fully pledged.
MR. FULTON: Yes, but it still would require either
that they be sold or that they obtain dollar exchange

elsewhere.
to.

H.M.JR: Jones could sell them any time he wanted
MR. FULTON: He has that right under the agreement

despite the payment of interest?

MR. WHITE: I think there is a date within which
they can pay him back the money. I am not positive of

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the agreement. I can try to find out. I think they

have
to default, but I am not positive about the exact
terms.
MR. FULTON: That, I think, gives us the basic
background, except that if you could say anything
with respect to whether you have a position or might
have a position as to whether the securities should
be continued to be liquidated or should be held as a
block subject to a loan.
H.M.JR: My off-hand opinion, without having talked

it over - I sort of feel that this is one of the many
things that will be settled around the peace table. I
really haven't thought about it. It is one of those
sleeping dogs.

You see, right now the British Treasury dollar
position is good. They can see daylight for another
six months or a year, which, if any treasury can see
that, is good as far as dollar exchange is concerned.
So, this is one of a dozen factors which goes
into their dollar position, production of gold, Canada,
South Africa, the various expenses that they have,
and so forth, and so on. So I mean, it is one of at
least a dozen factors.
When we were over recently this whole question
didn't
come up, because for the moment they are comfortable.

But certainly to answer this, I would resist to
the last ditch a repetition of the contract similar to

the one that was entered into before because it was

unnecessary. They can sell that. I don't know the
exact technique, but there is a way of selling after
the exchange closes. There is some disposition - I

don't know - a half a point, or whatever it is.

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- 13 MR. FULTON: That was explained to me. I think

it isn't much in excess of that.

H.M.JR: There would be no excuse for another con-

tract similar to the other one.

MR. FULTON: That would be, I think, the committee's

position, and it would be very much opposed to that. If
the thing, however, that was holding up the liquidation

was the fear, on the part of the British, that they
were either not obtaining the correct price, or being

forced to pay too large a commission, then the committee
would like to see some arrangements, if possible, worked
out for an orderly liquidation at a much more advantageous
price to the British, and at a commission which no one
could say was not low enough.

H.M.JR: You could quote me and say that I am in

entire sympathy with that position. I am sure that the
British don't have to enter into another contract of
that kind. I mean, there is absolutely no reason for
them to enter into one like that, and certainly they
wouldn't if I could possibly prevent them from doing it.
I would prevent them if I could. Let me just read this.
(Letter dated Oct. 1, 1942, from Mr. Jesse H. Jones and

letter dated Oct. 8, to Mr. Jones, read by the Secretary,
copies attached.)

H.M.JR: That is the last word.
MR. FULTON: Do you know the approximate amount

of the dollar value, as value for security purposes, of
the collateral held by Mr. Jones?

H.M.JR: No, but that could be ascertained.
MR. FULTON: I should think from the statement that

it so largely exceeded in its income the interest, it would
be indicative it is probably twice or more the value - I

mean the amount of the loan.

H.M.JR: If the committee wanted it, we would be
glad to furnish them with that information.

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- 14 MR. FULTON: Our question would partly relate to

that of whether the British had fully carried through

and if, for example, you had upward of eight hundred

million in value of securities against what is only

three hundred and ninety million loans, and therefore
used, there would remain some four hundred million of

securities which in effect would be left to the British

entirely free and never used by them for the purpose of
bearing their share.
H.M.JR: If the committee decides they want it,
you can get it either from Mr. Jones or from us; either

way.

MR. FULTON: I think they world like to have it,

but we can get that from Mr. Jones.

Then one other question in a somewhat similar

field, but a wholly different point, would be the

foreign securities of, say, South American countries

and others held by the British. What, if anything, has

been done by them with respect to those?

H.M.JR: Nothing, as far as we are concerned,
because when we started in a couple of years ago they

were practically worthless. I mean the securities which
they held largely in Argentine and Brazil were estimated
at several billion dollars, but then the thing was to
try to get it, and most of the things weren't worth
ten cents on the dollar. And then, even if you could
have sold, all these countries blocked their funds and
the British could not get the money out. So if they
had been successful in disposing of them and gotten

Argentine and Brazilian currency for them, they could
not get the money out, and as far as I know, unless something has happened recently, I don't think they have
done anything about it. Do you know, Harry?
MR. WHITE: There have been some negotiations

between the various countries and the British Government

in an attempt to buy back the securities, particularly
the Government securities - public utilities which

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these countries have. Those negotiations have been
going on for over a year, and they make a little prog-

ress. There has been some exchange, but not very much.

MR. FULTON: That whole subject is one on which
the committee has not gone far enough to have an opinion

other than the one that it should be explored by the vari-

ous Governmental authorities, both from the standpoint of

exchange, which would be, as I say, a very difficult

problem, and from the standpoint of American equity and
perhaps influencing South American countries.

H.M.JR: I had this up with Nelson Rockefeller. He
had his people go into the whole thing, and when they
looked into the whole thing they decided they could not

do anything about it. We gave all the facts, very

carefully prepared, turned them all over to Nelson
Rockefeller, and they spent about ten months on it, or
something. They went into the thing exhaustively and
when they got through they said that as far as they were
concerned they did not want to touch it. But that has
been done.

MR. FULTON: And then with respect to the Britishheld securities of Canadian companies, has anything been
done on that?

H.M.JR: Not as far as we are concerned. Their

relations with Canada - they advise us of the thing, but
of course that is a separate thing. But when I went
into this Lend-Lease thing I made them put everything
on the table, you see, and there were some people that
thought we should have been very much tougher than we

were. After all, when you go back to those days there

were some people that didn't know whether the English
could stand out, or wanted to stand out; and there was

such a thing as trying to get blood out of a turnip.

MR. FULTON: Of course, they had to be allowed an

incentive at least to continue in the war effort.

H.M.JR: We are just talking here - the business

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- 16 groups in those days in England were very powerful Chamberlain and his people, that represented big business - and you had to watch your step not to crowd

them too much or else they might have quit fighting;
they might have said, "What the hell are we fighting

for? America is going to take all of our assets

and expect us to shed the blood, and they won't even

get in the war." I mean, you have got to throw yourself back two years.

MR. FULTON: That is true, and yet I might say that
some of the Senators, particularly those who went on
the Alaskan trip recently, were somewhat disturbed when

they asked me to inquire as to the position which the

American Government and private industry would have with

respect to, say, the Alaskan road and the air fields along
the road; and when I informed them that although we had

obtained an agreement for the use of the road for the
purpose of shipping, duty free, materials from the United
States to Alaska through Canada, we had not obtai ned

any such rights with respect to the use of the fields
themselves, although those fields, in part, were built
with American money. It is somewhat disturbing. I
am merely talking out loud along the lines I know the
Senators feel. It is somewhat disturbing to them to
think that an air route which might be of such vital

=

importance after the war as a trade route to Russia and
even to the Far East generally, is one on which we have
not taken precautions of obtaining now a clear concept

and understanding of what our rights will be as to the
use of the fields.
Similarly, they are somewhat interested in the

same questions with respect to the bases that we have
spent money developing, and general questions of trade
which may come up after the war, although they are not
pressing those things to any immediate conclusion, and

although they also are fully appreciative of the point
that England must have a definite incentive to fight something to fight for and to have when they are

through. But they would like to have it determined on
some fair basis, fair to both the English and the Americans, so that it would not be a subject that might simply
result in a stalemate for some years after the war to the
positive detriment of both parties.

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H.M.JR: Well, I have tried with all my might and
main to carry out the difficult function of keeping
all these United Nations solvent, getting them to live
up to their contracts, like Russia. There was a day
when Russia could not meet its obligations and we ad-

vanced them thirty or thirty-five million dollars against
future shipments of gold. They had to have the money.
I am glad to say that they have paid back every dollar

of it under the most trying conditions. Only recently
they paid off, didn't they?
MR. BELL: Yes.

H.M.JR: They sent it across Siberia and everything
else. One big shipment was lost in a convoy coming
back from Murmansk, but they didn't whimper about it;

they paid us back. I am just illustrating that we are

tough where it is a question of being tough, but we
don't want to press these people so that they are going
to throw up their hands and say, "Well, maybe we had

better do business with Germany, anyway. We can keep

our investments and international trade," and so forth
and 80 on. We are not oft-headed or soft-hearted, but
there is a happy medium which we like to think we follow;
and that is we are looking after American interests as
well as we can without jeopardizing the war effort.
MR. FULTON: So far as I am able to speak for
Senator Truman, I know that he has the same view, his
only view being that on many of these problems it might

be best now to reach solutions fair to both sides,
which after the war would constitute a very difficult
problem, possibly to the injury of both sides.

H.M.JR I think he is very sound on that.
MR. FULTON: I appreciate greatly the time you have

taken.

H.M.JR: No, it is important, and if you have some

thoughts or some doubts after you get back, come and

see me.

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- 18 MR. FULTON: All right. Thank you very much.
H.M.JR: You may say, "Well, gosh, we didn't

quite clear up that point." If there is any doubt in

your mind, come on back, for I have great respect for
the committee and what you people have done, and I

like to think I am among the original ones who said,

"Take the profit out of war." I don't want anybody to
make a red cent out of this war if I can help it.
MR. FULTON: Within, of course, the limits that are
necessary to keep the organization going.
H.M.JR: Sure. You remember a year ago last November I said six percent on your money was a reasonable
amount. From coast to coast I was pounced on by all the

newspapers; now they think six percent is a little high.
But I meant, a man should have a fair return on his
capital but nothing over and above that, and we have
done everything along those lines here in the Treasury
to do that.

There are lots of things. For instance, a thing

which I never would have done is, I never would have

left it to the business man to decide, when the thing
is over, whether the plant, which is fully financed

by the Government, continues or whether he shuts it
down. We advanced all the money for what the English
call the shadow factories - these new plants.
MR. FULTON: Which are not very shadowy.

H.M.JR: Not shadowy - very substantial. And then
we let the company decide what they are going to do

with them; if they had left it with me, I would have
left the option with the Government. Now there are a

lot of things like that which I don't like at all.

MR. FULTON: I understand the committee has not

liked the option to be in a fixed dollar sum which, by
reason of possible changes in the value of the dollar,
might result in a bad transaction for the Government.

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H.M.JR: But the decision rests with the company.

MR. FULTON: And the option is fixed, firm, both

of which are somewhat questionable.

H.M.JR: But there are a lot of things like that.
If we could have written the contracts, the option

would have been much more favorable to the Government.

This way it is all one way. We put up all the money,
let them write the plant off during the war, and then

when the thing is over, if it is to our interest to keep
an armament plant going and Bethlehem Steel says, no,

that they want to shut down, they shut it down.

MR. FULTON: True. And we also have a problem,

if we can speak a minute, briefly, which has worried
a number of Senators. There has been so large a dislocation of what you might term pre-war industry, by
reason of the building of these plants, the equipping

of them with machine tools and the labor which has been
induced to leave its former occupations, and even the

housing for that labor, that we will, after the war,
find that it will be practically impossible to get back
to the other status.

If it was difficult to convert with an unlimited
purchasing, it will be much more difficult to convert

back to a state where there is no purchaser and where,

with respect to these new plants at least, there is no
former commerce or trade. That is, they have never made
an article that would be usable in trade and have not
sal esmen or customers, so that the fear is rather natural -

it would be tremendous.

H.M.JR: Are you familiar with what they do in

England?

MR. FULTON: Not fully, no.

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H.M.JR: You check me, Harry, but this is what
they do in England. They build what they call a
shadow factory - they did it before - the Government
owns it, and they equip it fully. And then we saw one

factory that I think was employing somewhere around
twenty-seven thousand people making airplane engines.
They go to an automobile company and say, "We want you
to manage this and supervise twenty-seven thousand people.
This company has got a hundred thousand dollar fee, and

that is all - a hundred thousand dollars to do twentyseven thousand. That is what they did, and this fellow
took us through. He was the head of one of the big auto-

mobile companies, just as proud as Punch, and believe me,

I don't care where you go in the United States, you

could not see a better run factory than this Bristol

Airplane engine plant, or see the stuff come out any faster.
I had a General Motors man in here and another man on

war bonds, and I asked about it. "Aren't they doing just
as well there, today, as we?" He says, "Yes. He says,
"We thought we knew it all" - and a hundred thousand to

supervise a factory of that size. When the thing is over

the tools belong to the Government, the factory belongs
to the Government, and whatever they want to make is

wholly within their province.

MR. FULTON: That, of course, cannot be compared

with our situation. Our fees are so much higher.

H.M.JR: And they are getting the production. We
went to a Spitfire factory where, when they ended every
day at six o'clock, so many Spitfires came out; you could
see them there at five o'clock. They had the same arrange-

ment at Vickers Arms - the same except, as I remember,
that Vickers Arms took nothing; as I remember, they told
me they had out-of-pocket expenses, but no fee. They

did not want any fee; they just took out-of-pocket

expenses for a certain amount of the management. Here

was the thing - a big factory - I think they are way
ahead of us.

MR. FULTON: I certainly won't quarrel with that.

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H.M.JR: And the answer is, they are getting the
production. They can't say that they are having labor

trouble, or this or that trouble. The place runs just

as sweet, and people are happy, and the stuff rolls out

at the other end of the line. And when it is over, well,

at least the Government has got the stuff and they can

decide, wholly within their option, what they are going
to do - it is their stuff - as against what we have done

here.

MR. FULTON: The committee, if anything, has been

much less critical publicly than it has been privately;
and we have tried, I think, rather hard not to make

criticism just for criticism's sake.

H.M.JR: But there would not be all these negotiations and renegotiations of contracts, which are one
of the worst things; the question would not have come
up.

MR. FULTON: On renegotiations, although we were

insistent that they do it, our ideas are not exactly

the ones that they actually applied. We were thinking
in terms of something similar to, say, the Bethlehen
Steel situation in the last war where, by reason of the
hasty estimate, if you give them the benefit of having
made an honest one, you at least must say that the
estimated cost was far in excess of what the actual
cost turned out to be.
We were thinking in terms of setting, perhaps, an
estimated cost being the best thing that you could do at the
time, and then providing that you would later examine and find
out what the actual cost was; and then, in effect, renego-

tiate the difference, taking it back if that was not due to

some unusual, valuable and efficient operation of the
company, but not taking it back if it was due to a
saving which the company should be given credit for
having made, of a type that his competitors did not
make. Instead, we find that some of the renegotiations
are not much different from the policy of saying, "What
did you make during the last five years?" And then

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- 22 say, "You shall make no more than that, no matter

whether you do a good job or bad," which, if you are
to adopt it, could be adopted much more simply by

simply saying cost plus your average profits for the
last five years. You would not have to have renegotiations if that were your method.
H.M.JR: Well, I am glad you came down. You see,

I am interested, personally. I follow this thing; I

do it personally. And if, when you get back, you think
of anything else, come back to see me.

MR. FULTON: Thank you very much.

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October 5, 1942.

Dear Henry:

For your information, the British have taken

$390,000,000 of the loan RFC authorized to them of
$425,000,000. The balance is available to them upon

request.

This loan, as you know, was made to provide the

British with dollar exchange without necessitating the
forced sale of their American securities. The proceeds
were to be used by Great Britain to pay for war supplies
purchased in this country and contracted for prior to
the approval of the Lend-Lease Act on March 11, 1941.

Substantially all the collateral covered by the

pledge agreement has been delivered. Collections to
date aggregate approximately $42,700,000 which, except
for a few small sales, came from income on the collateral.
Of this, $23,500,000 has been applied on principal of

the loan, the balance as interest or held as reserves.

Due to increased taxes the income from the collateral undoubtedly will not be as good for some time to

come, but it should be sufficient to service the loan

according to contract.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Jesse H. Jones
Secretary of Commerce.
Honorable Henry Morgenthau,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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October 8, 1942.

My dear Jesse:

Thank you for your letter of October 5, 1942,
informing me of the current status of the loan extended
by the RFC to the British Government against British
holdings of U.S. securities and other British investments in the United States.
The British dollar position has improved steadily
over the past year and the prospects are favorable for

the future. Largely for this reason, I think it is
likely that the British Government will not avail itself
of the remainder of the loan.

I am enclosing for your information a copy of the
latest statement received from the British Government

on its gold and U.S. dollar assets. It shows that,

as of August 31, 1942, the British Treasury held gold

and U.S. dollars totalling $858 million, exclusive of

$110 million of gold borrowed from Belgium. These
holdings have increased somewhat since that date.
Sincerely,
(Signed)

H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.
The Honorable

Jesse H. Jones,
The Secretary of Commerce.
Enclosure

TMK:r1 10/7/42

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November 6, 1942
4:11 p.m.

Breckinridge

Henry.

Long:

HM Jr:

What in God's name is the sweat about this thing,

L:

I'll tell you what it's about. It's about

HM Jr:

Good Heavens ! You people have a letter over there

Breck?

for over two months, and I spoke to Cordell Hull
and he says there's no hurry whatsoever..

L:

No, I'll tell you what it is. It's not asking

you for a decision this afternoon. I've simply
got in the position - this is in connection with
other events with which you are familiar

HM Jr:

But which

L:

And - huh?

HM Jr:

L:

Hull doesn't seem to be familiar. He said, "Henry,
take all the time that you want.

Yeah, for the deciskon. I just wanted to - to do
this, I wanted - the French Ambassador has been

buzzing around here for three or four days on it, and
I wanted simply to tell him that I had discussed
the matter with you, and that the matter was receiving careful Treasury consideration, and I

couldn't do that without talking to you or getting
hold of Pehle, and Pehle was not available. I had
no idea of pressing you for a decision this afternoon. I sent word to you to that effect in the
first instance.
HM Jr:

Well, any way I took it up at Cabinet - not at
Cabinet - I took it up after Cabinet with the
President and Cordell.

L:

Yes.

HM Jr:

And the decision was - I asked Cordell before Cabinet
so as not to embarrass him whether it had anything to
do with any other matters, and he said, "Absolutely
not."

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2-

L:

Well, it has only to do with other matters here
in connection with the relationships between the

Embassy and here in connection with other matters.

HM Jr:

Well, evidently he isn't aware of that.

L:

Yes, and I'm just trying to keep it quiet here, you
see?

HM Jr:

Yes, but evidently he doesn't know because he said
that there was no hurry.

L:

Yeah. Well, there isn't any hurry for the decision

HM Jr:

Well, this is what the President decided - that we

L:

Yeah.

HM Jr:

Right?

L:

Yeah.

HM Jr:

And enough money for one more shipment.

L:

Well, you may not need the other shipment.

HM Jr:

What's that?

L:

You may not need the other shipment.

HM Jr:

Well, the President realizes that but he said to

but there was the fact that I had to have a conversation with you on the subject.
give the Red Cross the money for the shipment which
has already gone - which is $220,000.

give them enough more money, and that would be

another two twenty, wouldn't it?

L:

Well, I don't know exactly what the details would be,
but the thing was that we had made a commitment to
carry on up to the time we made a commitment - up

to the first of October, and certain of those sums
are in arrears.

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-3-

HM Jr:

Well

L:

It doesn't involve the transfer - the expenditure
of the funds, but simply the transfer of the credits,
because I doubt very much whether the funds can be
expended for this purpose.

HM Jr:

Well, according to this letter it says that they
shipped 248 tons at a cost of $220,000 - that's
Item No. 1.

L:

That's right.

HM Jr:

Well, we're advancing the two twenty? Hello?

L:

Yes.

HM Jr:

Then the President said to keep it on a 24-hour
basis and give them enough money for one more
shipment.

L:

Yeah.

HM Jr:

Now does that help you out?

L:

Yes, that's fine. I didn't expect even that.

HM Jr:

Well, but this helps more?

L:

Yes.

HM Jr:
L:

Is this entirely satisfactory?
It's fine - perfect - and I'll tell him that they' 11
get the two hundred twenty now, and you'll take care
of the next in the near future.

HM Jr:

Now, let's see - you're going to tell him they get

All I wanted to do is just to have a conversation
with you and then tell him that it was progressing.

the two twenty

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-4L:

I'm going to tell them that the 248 tons will be

paid for now.
HM Jr:
L:

That money will be released today.

All right. And the next approximately similar
amount for the next shipment will be forthcoming
in the near future.

HM Jr:

Well, if that's good enough for you, that's better.

L:

Perfect.

HM Jr:

Well, then I'll just tell our people to clear the
two twenty, and when the papers come around on

another similar shipment to meet that if the ship-

ment goes.
L:

Yeah - if the shipment goes.

HM Jr:

Is that right?

L:

That's right.

HM Jr:

Now that's all right with you?

L:

That's perfect.

HM Jr:

Okay.

L:

Thank you, Henry.

HM Jr:

Thank you, Breck.

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November 6, 1942

Present: Mr. Paul

Mr. Pehle

After Cabinet I spoke to the President. I gave
him Mr. Paul's letter of October 13 to Mr. Hull and
Mr. Hull's letter of November 6 to me, received at
12:15 today.

The President read both carefully and said, "We

will do what the Treasury said; we will keep on a

twenty-four-hour basis and let another shipment go."

So I said, "We will pay for the past shipment of

$220,000 and tell them that they can make another one."

The President said, "That is right."
I talked to Mr. Hull before Cabinet. I said,

"Is there any particular reason why there is such a
hurry about this?" He said, "There is none whatsoever."
I said, "Breckinridge Long put me under such terrific
pressure." He said, "There is no reason in the world
why you should be under pressure. Take all the time
that you want," which is just contrary to what
Breckinridge Long told Mrs. Klotz.
So I spoke to Breckinridge Long on the telephone.
He gave me certain reasons, which I will not go into,

and he said, "If I simply could tell the French

Ambassador, who has been fussing about this, that we
would pay for the shipment already made, $220,000,
and consider another one, that would be more than

satisfactory to me." So I said, "Fine."

I repeat, we are to pay the $220,000, and they
will consider making another shipment; if another

shipment is made, then we will take it up. In other

words, we will take them up one at a time.

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SECRETARY OF STATE

DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

November 6. 1942

In reply refer to
SD

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I refer to Mr. Paul's letter of October 13, 1942 in
regard to two applications for license filed by the French

Ameri can Banking Corporation to debit the account of the
French Government to pay a total of $2,200,000 to the
Ameri can Red Cross to be used for the purchase of canned
meat to be shipped to the International Red Cross Committee

in Geneva for distribution to French prisoners of war.

This matter has been accorded renewed consideration

and the Department is of the opinion that for political

reasons shipments of meat for French prisoners of war
should be permitted to pass through the blockade for distribution by the International Red Cross Committee in
amounts not to exceed 500 tons per month.
The American Red Cross has informed the Department

that it has already shipped 248 tone of meat at a cost
and that the estimated cost of purchasing and shipping
1,500 tons of meat (500 tons each for the months of
October, November, and December) is $1,310,000. It
would, therefore, be appreciated if $1,530,000 of the
total of $2,200,000 requested in the above-mentioned
applications filed by the French American Banking Corporation would be released to the American Red Cross in
order that they might be reimbursed for expenditures
already made and that they might proceed with the purof $220,000, for which reimbursement has not been made,

chase and shipment of meat on a regular monthly basis.

I may add that even though the American Red Cross

has requested an advance of funds for use in connection
with the purchase and shipment of this meat, they have
assured the Department that in the event of a change in
policy the meat shipments can be halted on very short
notice.

Sincerely yours,
POR VICTORY

BUY

The Honorable

Correstment

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

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reply please

afer to: 26344

OCT 13 1942

Funds'
by dear Mr. Secretary:

Reference is made to Assistant Secretary Achooon's letters of
July 10, 1942 (SD 840.51 Presen Credits/6096), and August 13, 1942
(SD 840.51 Presen Credits/7109), to this Department's letter of
August 1, 1942, and to embrequent conversations between represente-

tives of your Department and numbers of the staff of Foreign Funds
Central senserning applications filed by the French American Danking
Corporation for a license to debit the account of the French
Government to pay $1,300,000 to the American Red Gross to be used

for the purchase of earned meat to be shipped to the International
Red Gross Committee in deneva for distribution to French priseners

of war.

Shortly before receiving Mr. Achesea's letter of August 13
under reference, this Department received another application of a
similar nature involving 8900,000. In view of the amounts and the
policy questions involved in these applications, this Department has
been giving further consideration to the problem. The matter has
been discussed with representatives of the American Red Gross, and a
copy of a letter from Mr. Maurice Pate of that organisation, dated
October 1, 1942, is attached. Another element of some ecosem to
this Department is the information available in the press and elsewhere indicating that French priseners of war have been performing

services which, whether or not falling within the limits of the

Geneva Convention, requestionably sake a significant contribution to
the enery's war aschine. In any event the Vishy Government has sub-

stantial assets outside of the United States which, if permission is

granted to use blocked French assets in the United States for such
purposes, will be available for other purposes of the French Government which cannot be procured to be necessarily in the interest of
the United Nations.

Under the circumstances is appears to this Department that from
the point of view of commonie warfare it is centuary to the interests
of this Government to permit the use of blocked French assets in the

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.2United States for the purchase of food to be sent to French prisence
of war in enemy territory. Accordingly, whee we are advised that
for political reasons your Department regards 18 so necessary to w
prove the applications under reference, this Department is prepared
to dany such applications and any future applications of such nature.
Sincerely years,

(Signed) Randolph Paul

Acting Secretary of the Treasury.

The Interable,

The Secretary of State.

Enclosure.

MLHeffeem/af - 10/3/42

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE NOV 6-1992
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Randolph Paul

Subject: Relations between the Office of Censorship
and Foreign Funds Control.

I believe that you will be interested in knowing about the

effective manner in which Foreign Funds Control and the Office
of Censorship cooperate to their mutual benefit in discharging

their respective responsibilities.

Early in 1942 an arrangement was worked out for Foreign

Funds Control to install representatives in the principal postal
censorship stations. These representatives advise the local
stations concerning the operations of the freezing control and
the type of information which would be most useful to us in the
enforcement of the freezing order. In addition, our representatives assist the censors in formulating basic policies concerning
international mail of a financial or business nature.
The following typical quotations from letters which we have
received from the Chief Postal Censor are indicative of the
spirit with which our representatives are received by censorship

officials.

1. "We appreciate the assistance the Treasury representa-

tives render to the stations with particular respect

to the proper examination of financial communications
to the end that the maximum may be produced for our

war effort.

2. "Yesterday I received a letter from the District

Postal Censor at San Francisco, in which he stated
that the Treasury Department representative in his
station had performed highly satisfactory work."

The high regard in which Censorship holds our representatives is

further indicated by the fact that our representative in the

Panama Canal Zone censorship stations has been hired by Censor-

ship at a salary of $7,000 to be the District Postal Censor in

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-2charge of the censorship of all mail in the Panama Canal Zone.

Recently, the Chief Postal Censor's Office instituted a
new training program in New York to be attended by representa-

tives from all stations of Censorship. The Chief Postal Censor
gave Foreign Funds Control a prominent place in this training

program and called upon our people to conduct the leading sessions.

Foreign Funds Control is now receiving daily approximately
3,000 submissions from the Office of Censorship containing

financial information, which are of real assistance to us in
discharging our responsibilities in administering Executive

Order 8389, as amended. From these censorship submissions we

obtain valuable leads concerning the direction of ownership and
control in complex business organizations and the activities of
persons and organizations in which we are interested.
Foreign Funds Control and the Office of the Chief Postal
Censor have cooperated in devising a procedure for the control

of property transmitted through the international mails. They
have also cooperated in the solution of problems relative to

communications with respect to financial matters, and the
regulations of both Censorship and Foreign Funds Control require
that Treasury licenses be obtained before persons within the
United States may communicate with persons in enemy territory or
on the Proclaimed List with respect to financial or commercial
transactions.

REI

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

November 6, 1942

MEMORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY:

A meeting was held at Mr. Stettinius' office on

October 29th and was attended by Ambassador Litvinov,
representatives of the Government Purchasing Commission

of the Soviet Union in the United States, likewise,
Lend-Lease officials, and representatives of the procurement agencies.

The two principal subjects discussed had to do with
the problem of supplying food to the Soviet government
and shipping facilities. Concerning the food problem,
the possibility of using dehydrated and concentrated
foods was discussed at considerable length with the
thought in mind of conserving shipping space, it being
explained that some phases of this proposed program
were still in the experimental stages. Concerning the

transportation situation, the Soviet representatives

emphasized the point that there is delay in loading
ships which limits the usefulness of the limited number
of ships available to them to a decreased number of
round trips, and they also spoke of the delay in moving
cargo from eastern suppliers to west coast ports.
It was indicated at the meeting that Admiral Akulin
of the Government Purchasing Commission of the Soviet

Union and others of his group together with transportation representatives of the War Department would go to
the west coast within a few days after the meeting and
endeavor to work out arrangements to speed up loading

and make further shipping facilities available to the

Soviet government as soon as possible. At the Lend-Lease
staff meeting on Wednesday morning of this week, the
proposed order to centralize forwarding of Lend-Lease
cargo from suppliers or warehouses and consignment to
PORVICTORY

BUY

THE

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the War Shipping Administration was discussed, and

it was stated that the change would be effective
December 1st. I think this is a good move and
should help the situation.

Director
Clifton of Procurement E. mount Mack

Signature

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

November 6, 1942

At

MEMORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY:

Upon my return to the office yesterday afternoon,
I checked the files to learn when Executive Order 9235
had been taken up with you, and I find that on May 12,
1942, I had lunch at your office with General Balyaev
and Captain Vladimorov and it is my recollection that
at the conclusion of the luncheon I remained at your

office for a moment after they had left and very briefly

mentioned the fact that a proposed Executive Order giving
the Bureau of the Budget authority to determine effec-

tive utilization of property and providing for control

of field warehousing by ourselves had been sent to the
General Counsel and, no doubt, would be taken up with
you for clearance.

The legal file at Procurement Division contains

a memorandum dated May 12, 1942, copy attached, which

indicates Mr. Foley talked with you about the matter
on that date. Also attached is a copy of Executive
Order 9235. I also wrote to you on August 8, 1942,
relative to the warehousing phases of the Executive
Order.

forter

Clifton of Procurement Work E. Mack
Director

PORVICTORY

BUY

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(COPY)

May 12, 1942

To Mr. Thurman Hill

From E. H. Foley, Jr.

I spoke to the Secretary this morning
about the proposed Executive Order submitted

by the Bureau of the Budget providing for

distribution and utilization of shortage
supplies and equipment for the Government.
I have made the change on page 5 which he

suggested. Otherwise, the proposed draft
is agreeable to him.

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President of the United States, and for the purpose of providing such general direction and control over the use of supplies and equipment in the Executive branch of the Government as will
insure the most economical and effective utilisation thereof, it is hereby ordered as follows:
1. AS used in this order:

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(a) Government agency means any executive department, independent establishment, agency,

commission, board, bureau, division, administration, service, or office of the Executive branch
of the Federal Government, including any independent regulatory commission or board and any Govemment-owned or Government-controlled corporation.
(b) Supplies and equipment means any and all supplies, equipment, machines, commodities, accessories, parts, assemblies, or products of any kind in the possession of any Government agency,
whether new or used, in use or in storage: Provided, that supplies and equipment which the

Director of the Bureau of the Budget determines to be within the following categories shall not
be subject to this order: (1) tactical supplies and equipment of the War Department, the Navy
Department, or the United States Maritime Commission, (2) food and clothing, (3) construction
materials acquired for the maintenance or construction of housing, electric power works or facilities, roads, reservoirs, or other physical improvements (4) supplies and equipment acquired by
any Government agency for transfer or export to any foreign government, and (5) supplies and
equipment acquired from foreign or domestic sources for stock piling in connection with the war.
2. The Director of the Bureau of the Budget, acting through such assistants as he may designate, shall:
(a) Survey supplies and equipment in possession of Government agencies and the utilization
thereof. For this purpose he may require the Government agencies to submit reports and estimates
in such form and at such times as he may find necessary: Provided, that in making such surveys

he shall utilize, subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, the services and
facilities of the Procurement Division of the Treasury Department:
(b) Develop and promulgate such qualitative and quantitative standards with respect to subplies and equipment used by Government agencies as he may deem necessary to effectuate the purposes of this order:

(c) Require, when, in his opinion, such action is necessary or expedient, the transfer from
one Government agency to another, for permanent or temporary use, of such supplies and equipment
as he may determine to be surplus to the needs of one agency and essential to the needs of another agency:

(d) Consult with and seek the advice of the War Production Board in connection with the administration of paragraphs (a), (b). and (c) above:
(e) Issue such regulations and directives as may be necessary to effectuate this order.
3. The Procurement Division of the Treasury Department shall undertake such warehousing,
rehabilitation, and physical distribution of supplies and equipment for Government agencies, and,
in connection therewith, shall take over such Government warehouses, appurtenant facilities, and
personnel used or employed by other Government agencies in the performance of these functions,

together with such funds heretofore or hereafter provided therefor, as the Director of the
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August 8, 1942
MEMORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY:

We have been doing some preliminary planning to 00-

ordinate governmental warehousing, exclusive of military
stores.

At the present time, throughout the United States

warehouses of various Government agencies are being oper-

ated independently of each other and freguently are located within the same city or area. An Executive Order proposed by the Bureau of Budget now pending approval by the

President provides in part that the Procurement Division

shall take over warehousing for Government agencies, which

includes facilities, personnel, and funds. A very substantial part of the field warehousing is now carried on by the
various agencies of the Department of Agriculture.

I have talked with Mr. Samuel A. Snyder, Chief, Division of Purchase, Sales and Traffic, Department of Agriculture, with the thought in mind of bringing him into the
Procurement Division as Assistant to the Director, Grade 14,
salary $65500, to do the planning and supervise the operation of coordinating all federal warehousing in the field
service where there is a common need for warehousing. After

several talks with Mr. Snyder, he has indicated his willingness to join us; and I feel very pleased about it because we
need men of his type in our organization. In my opinion, Mr.
Snyder is the best qualified procurement man in any of the

Government agencies we are buying for now. For many years he

has been constantly in touch with the field agencies of the
Department of Agriculture on procurement matters. He is essentially a field man, knows field problems and field person-

nel, and I think he is well suited to take over the responsibility of coordinating all field warehousing and then carrying
on the operation after the planning has been completed. The

planning and coordination is a detailed job which will prob-

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ably keep Mr. Snyder in the field more or less continually
for the next year or two; and when the job is completed,

there should be a substantial savings as well as much more
efficient operation than the present system of each agency
operating its own warehousing without regard to the other.

I will keep you informed as the program develops.

Clifton E. Mack
Director of Procurement

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE

TO

NOV - 1942

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Randolph Paul

On October 14 we received from the State Department

a reply to your letter of September 18 in which you
requested that this Department be furnished with a report
on the mission of Cochran and Meltzer to Argentina. The
State Department's letter enclosed a copy of this report,
describing it as containing the personal views of Messrs.
Cochran and Meltzer. Such letter also stated that an
Argentine program had been developed and, without giving

the full details of such program, suggested certain

specific measures to the Treasury Department for consideration in connection with such program.

We have carefully studied the report submitted by

Messrs. Cochran and Meltzer and have found that it does

not deal adequately with the situation. Many matters which
the Treasury is interested in are not even discussed in the
report and those matters which were discussed only cover the
situation on a superficial basis. Furthermore, the measures
which the State Department suggested for the consideration
of this Department are far from adequate. to deal with the
Argentine prohlems. The measures suggested by the State
Department are only part of a series of measures which this
Department had already suggested to the State Department for

their consideration. Nevertheless, on the basis of the

measures suggested by the State Department, this Department
has already recommended to the State Department that certain

steps be immediately taken to implement these measures. It
appears, however, that the State Department is not even
prepared to wholeheartedly implement the limited measures

suggested in their letter, and we are convinced that the

primary purpose of the State Department's letter was

probably an effort to "make a record" in this matter.

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-2We have accordingly prepared a letter for your signature
addressed to the Secretary of State which contains the
following points:

(a) We state that the Cochran-Meltzer report is not

particularly helpful in the evaluation and solution of
the Argentine problems.

(b) We request the State Department to furnish full
information as to the entire Argentine program.
(c) We summarize the steps which we have taken
designed to implement the program suggested in the

State Department's letter, at the same time stating
that it is our opinion that the program suggested is
inadequate.

(d) We suggest additional measures for the consideration of the State Department whi ch would be designed to

more fully control Argentine financial transactions, on
the assumption that the State Department objects to an
order freezing Argentina.

(e) We state that this Department is still strongly

of the view that Argentine financial transactions should
be subjected to an over-all supervision and control
through an order freezing Argentina. In this connection
we point out that the State Department previously
objected to such an order on the grounds that it would
have an adverse affect on certain friendly groups in
Argentina and on our good-neighbor policy in general
and suggest that these issues be recanvassed in the

light of the developments since that time, including
official statements by representatives of this
Government with respect to Axis activities in Argentina.

(f) Our reply concludes by stating that it is your
opinion, recognizing the political considerations
involved, that this Government cannot justify its
failure in this case to take adequate steps designed

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-3to prevent transactions subject to our jurisdiction

which are engaged in by persons within a country
maintaining diplomatic and commercial relations with
the enemy and which might be detrimental to our war
effort.

I recommend that you sign the attached letter. This

letter will not only have the result of making the record

of this Department clear on this issue but may also cause
the State Department to approve of the adoption of additional
measures with respect to the control of Argentine transactions.

hap

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My dear Mr. Secretary:

Further reference is made to your Department's
letter of October 14, 1942, in which certain specific measures
were suggested for consideration by this Department in connection with the implementation of the Argentine program

referred to in such letter.

Your letter was in response to my letter of
September 18, 1942, which requested a report on the mission

to Argentina of representatives of your Department. As
you know, this Department was particularly interested in
this mission and was prepared to send its own representstives to Argentina for this purpose. We appreciate your
furnishing us with a copy of the report, which has been
carefully studied by this Department. We have not found

this report particularly helpful in the evaluation and
solution of the Argentine problems to be met.

It is noted that your letter refers to the develop-

ment of an Argentine program of which the financial measures
suggested are only a part. This Department would appreciate

receiving full information as to the entire program in order

that it may be in a position to integrate its financial controls with the other portions of the program.
The development of a satisfactory Argentine program

in the financial field has been the subject of considerable
discussion for many months between representatives of our
respective Departments. As you know, this Department has
been contending that Argentine financial transactions sub-

ject to the jurisdiction of this Government should be placed
under supervision and control through the issuance of an

order freezing Argentina, accompanied by appropriate general
licenses. Inasmuch as your Department has objected to such

an overall control of Argentine transactions, a series of
specific measures designed to enable this Government to

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-2obtain more complete information concerning Argentine

nationals and transactions and to control Argentine financial transactions in so far as possible on an ad hoe basis

have been discussed with representatives of your Department.
The specific measures which have now been approved

by your Department and which are described in items (1), (2),

and (3) of your letter are designed to implement, in part,
an ad hoe program. Since your letter was received, this
Department has taken the following action with respect to
those measures included in your letter:

(a) By letter dated October 22, 1942, we

forwarded to your Department the names of 64

persons and firms in Argentina having unsatis-

factory ratings according to the records of the
World Trade Intelligence Division of your
Department, together with a summary of certain

information concerning the undesirable activities
of such persons and firms. It was proposed in
the letter that these persons and firms be subjected to ad hoe freezing action immediately and
be given immediate consideration for inclusion
in The Proclaimed List. These cases were discussed at meetings attended by representatives of
our respective Departments, and your Department
approved the immediate application of ad hoo

freezing action to 44 of these persons and firms.
Appropriate instructions have been issued to the
Federal Reserve Banks ordering that such persons

and firms be ad hoc blocked. For your information in connection with the procedure employed
in taking such action, there is enclosed a copy

of Confidential Circular No. 158A to all Federal

Reserve Banks and a copy of a telegram dated
November 2, 1942, sent to such Banks.

(b) By letter dated October 30, 1942, we

forwarded to your Department the names of over

180 individuals in Argentina who are closely
connected with firms on The Proclaimed List, and
proposed that such individuals be subjected to
ad hoe freezing action immediately.

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-3(e) By letter dated October 31, 1942, we
forwarded to you a list of exchange houses in
Argentina, which, as reported by the Embassy in
Buenos Aires, have continued to deal in dollar
currency transactions in the black market. We
proposed that these firms be subjected to ad hoe
freezing action immediately.
(d) By letter dated October 31, 1942, we
proposed the application of ad hoo freezing action
to Banco de la Provincia, Banco de la Nacion, and

Pascual Hermanos and proposed action with respect
to Shaw Strupp and Company which would enable

this Department to supervise the transactions
subject to our jurisdiction which are engaged in
by such firm.

With respect to item (4) of your letter, this

Department by letter dated October 30, 1942, submitted for
the consideration of your Department a proposed general rul-

ing which excludes transactions between persons in Europe
and persons in the American Republica from outstanding general

licenses and requires that before any such transaction may
be engaged in, ft must receive the specific approval of the

Treasury Department.

With respect to the country-by-country analysis of
TFR-300 data, referred to in your letter, you are advised
that such an analysis has been under preparation for some
time, and as soon as such an analysis is completed with

respect to any particular country in Latin America, it will

be furnished to you.

The success of any Argentine ad hoe program is
necessarily dependent upon the ability of this Government to
obtain adequate information concerning persons within
Argentina engaged in undesirable activities and concerning

undesirable transactions subject to our jurisdiction engaged
in by persons within Argentina, and to obtain this information
in ample time to prevent these undesirable activities. Under
existing circumstances the primary sources for obtaining
this information are the representatives of this Government

stationed in the field, in particular the officers and per-

sonnel of our Embassy and Consulate staffs in Argentina.

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In the light of the above, it is believed that

the following steps are desirable in connection with the
administration of the ad hoe program described in your

letter, and these steps are recommended for your considerations

(1) Our Embassy and Consulate staffs in
Argentina should be made thoroughly familiar
with the functions and purposes of the ad hoe
program described in your letter and should be

requested to compile lists, on the basis of the
information available to them, of those Argentine

persons, firms, and accounts which should in
their judgment be subjected to ad hoe freesing
action. Such lists should be made promptly
available to this Department, with your comments
and such other information as may be available
to your Department.

(2) In addition, the State Department

should advise the Treasury Department of any
other persons, firms, and accounts in Argentina

which, on the basis of all the information
available to the State Department, the State
Department believes should be subjected to
ad hoe freezing action.

This Department will, of course, continue to advise your
Department of those cases in which, on the basis of informa-

tion available to this Department, it is believed that ad

hoc freezing action should be taken.

This Department desires to cooperate fully with
your Department in the implementation of the Argentine pro-

gram referred to in your letter. This Department strongly
recommends, however, that additional measures be adopted

so as to enable this Government to supervise and control
more adequately Argentine transactions.

You state in your letter that the Argentine program
which has been developed is designed to prevent, within the
limits of our control, economic operations beneficial to

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the Axis. It is the view of this Department that the program
described in your letter is inadequate to prevent such operations, although it will have some effect in that direction.

The program described in your letter contemplates the control
of transactions through the application of ad hoe freezing
action to certain persons and firms in Argentina. The program
does not envisage the control on an ad hoc basis of individual
transactions, which may be inimical to this country's war
effort, but which may be engaged in by persons who would not
be subject to ad hoe freezing action on the basis of the

standards set forth in your letter.

It was to meet this particular objection that this
Department has suggested that arrangements be made with the

Office of Censorship sotthat all financial communications

between the United States and Argentina will be examined and

the information contained therein forwarded to this Department, and, in case of communications relating to the more
important transactions, that the contents of such communications will be received by this Department in advance of their

transmission to destination. By utilising the information
thus obtained from Censorship, and from other sources concorning Argentine transactions, this Government would be

in a position to single out those transactions which appear
to be of an undesirable character, and require the American
banks or institutions which are parties to such transactions

to hold up their execution until we obtain further informtion as to the nature of the transactions. This Department
is prepared to take such action immediately if you have no

objection.

So long as this Government attempts to control
inimical Argentine transactions, through the procedure of
an ad hoe program, as distinguished from an overall supervision

and control, this Department is of the opinion that additional

measures such as those referred to above are essential in

order to give the fullest possible effect to such an ad hoe
program. Nevertheless, this Department is still strongly
of the view that Argentine financial transactions subject to
our jurisdiction should be subjected to an overall supervision and control. It is impossible adequately to control

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inimical financial transactions subject to our jurisdiction

which are engaged in by persons within a foreign country such
as Argentina through a procedure whereby such transactions
are freely permitted unless this Government has already ob-

tained positive information, prior to the time they are on-

gaged in, indicating that they should be examined. Any program which is fully adequate in this respect must be based
on the premise that transactions are prohibited unless this
Government is furnished with full information concerning such
transactions and is satisfied that such transactions should
be approved. Since the time that this Department recommended

in May, 1942, the issuance of an order freezing generally all

Argentine nationals (accompanied by an appropriate general

license), the information which has come to the attention of
this Department concerning Argentine activities more than
confirms the views of this Department as to the necessity
of such an overall control.

It is understood that the principal objection to a

public order freezing Argentine nationals, which was raised
by representatives of the State Department at the meeting
held in May, 1942, to consider this matter, was the contention
that such an order would have an adverse effect on certain
friendly groups in Argentina and on our good neighbor policy
in general. In view of developments since that time, in-

cluding official statements relating to Axis activities in
Argentina, it is suggested that the issues involved be recanvassed.

Recognising the political considerations involved,
I am of the opinion that this Government can not justify its
failure in this case to take adequate steps designed to prevent transactions, subject to our jurisdiction, which are

engaged in by persons within a country maintaining diplomatic

and commercial relations with the enemy and which may be

detrimental to our war effort.

Very truly yours,

The Honorable

The Secretary of State.
Enclosures

JED/ma - 11/6/42

Secretary of the Treasury.

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OTTO JEIDELS
120 BROADWAY
NEW YORK CITY

November 6, 1942

Mrs. H. S. Klotz

Secretary to Secretary of the Treasury
Treasury of the United States
Washington, D. C.

Dear Mrs. Klotz:

I thank you for your telephone message,
and will call on the Secretary on Tuesday, November 10,
at 3:30, as suggested by you.
While the Secretary knows me and has been

very kind to me at the few interviews, he may like
to be informed about my personal record, in view of

the subject which I intend to submit to him. For

this purpose I have written a personal memorandum which
you may or may not wish to show or read to the Secretary.

I shall leave that decision entirely up to you.
With kind regards,
Sincerely yours,

OJ:MSC

Enc.

Gr. June

PERSONAL

Hayse

If I remember correctly, I was originally introduced to the
Secretary in 1938 by Mr. Abraham Flexner, an old and respected friend,

at that time Director of the Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton.
I reported to the Secretary the situation in Europe which I had just
left, and, if my memory does not deceive me, in a pessimistic vein with
regard to world peace and the Nazis' aggressive plans. Since then, I
believe I have had the honor to be received by the Secretary twice and
to submit some opinions about economic problems and developments in Europe.

I immigrated just four years ago and have been most of the time
since and am now a partner of the New York investment banking house of

Lazard Freres & Co. The first citizenship papers which I filed after
my immigration, date from November 24, 1938. I am a national of Switzerland where my grandfather had acquired citizenship in 1866 when Prussia
annexed Frankfurt on the Main, his and my native town; under Swiss law

his male descendants and their wives were entitled to Swiss citizenship;
as my wife and I, my 84 year old mother and my brother, now residing in
Zurich, Switzerland, are Swiss nationals, but we were all born in Germany.
During my activity in Germany and ending in 1938, I was also a German
citizen.
After my college years in Germany and my graduation as a Ph. D. in

political economy, and after some scientific writing on banking and industry
as a young man,I entered business at the bottom in this country as a "runner"

and then a clerk in the New York brokerage firm of J. S. Bache & Co., after
which I worked several years in Germany, England and U. S. for a large

metal merchant house, among it for the better part of a year in the metal
ore and smelting business in Colorado. After returning to Germany, I
entered the service of one of the principal and oldest German banks, the
Berliner Handels-Gesellschaft, with which I have been connected for nearly

thirty years (April 1, 1909 until I left German forever on March 8,

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1938), the last twenty years as managing director and, under the
old by-laws of the Bank, as a personally responsible partner.

Of this career which filled a good part of a lifetime, from
a personal point of view, some more important developments are
most vivid in my memory.

The intensive industrial work connected with board memberships,
some as chairman or vice-chairman, or member of executive committees,

as one of my principal duties and, on the other hand, the consulting
activity under three presidents of the Central Banking Institution,
the Reichsbank in the administration of Government borrowing and

monetary policy. - Then my close connection with the international
members of the Reparation Commission before and after the Dawes Plan. -

After the collapse of the German financial structure erected on repara-

tion policy and foreign borrowing, I had the satisfaction of functioning
as one of the two German bankers delegated to settle without recourse
to the Governments the German private indebtedness to the international

banking community, amounting in 1931 to about $12 billion gold dollars;

when I resigned this delegation after six and a half years on leaving
Germany, about 90% of this indebtedness had been liquidated, the Ameri-

can interest in particular down to little over $30 million. Some of
my most cherished American and other international friendships are the

heritage of this thorny but fascinating activity. - In the same year of
financial crisis, 1931, I was with my colleagues in the management of the
Berliner Handels-Gesellschaft a beneficiary of the good fortune which

enabled the bank, as the only private institution of the kind in the
country, to survive the crisis without assistance by the Government,
without recapitalization and even without being compelled to pass the

annual dividend. To this day I am grateful for such kindness of fate
in critical times.

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Another pleasant recollection is the opportunity afforded to me
by the British Government in the winter 1930-1931 to serve as an

expert to a Committee on Banking in India. I am deeply grateful to have

had this privilege of learning much of the real story of India, now
so widely misunderstood, and for the opportunity to form on this complex
problem an opinion equally appreciative of the unparalleled achievement

of Britain in India as of the ideal and material aspiration of the
populace of India.

May I be permitted to add a few words which might find the Secre-

tary's interest in spite of their personal character. Everybody who
does not try to suppress human nature in himself, has his regrets about

his past and here or there some pride. I am grateful for the good fortune and proud of a record that during the whole period of Nazi persecu-

tion of the Jews until I left Germany, in no corporation where I acted
as chairman or vice-chairman of the board, any executive and in the
bank entrusted to my management any employe has been dismissed or been

impaired in his functions owing to his faith or race or political record.
When in January 1938 the clock ran out and an executive of an industrial
corporation where I was chairman of the board was forced out by the Nazi

Party, I resigned from this board and also my position in the bank, the
latter under the promise, readily given and faithfully adhered to by the
bank's board of directors, of settling generously with the Jewish employees
after my departure from the bank and the country. - Having made this personal statement, I feel that honesty and modesty call for an explanation how

such effort could be successful in the light of wholesale persecution and
in spite of my own Jewish descent. The answer is simple. For me, and
in this respect I have been distinctly fortunate where others were helpless victims, the prospect of leaving Germany after many good and bad

years of, on the whole, gratifying work, meant the fulfillment of an old
dream, the patiently cherished desire to come one day to live in America,

4.

the idol of my young years and the haven of many true friendships.

This singular position permitted me to identify my fate and decisions
with that of 4 persecuted friends and employees, an attitude which
has always and everywhere a strong chance of at least temporary success;

and in such position I could, with some good fortune on which everybody
depends, only win in the end.

0. J.

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.

November 6, 1942.

Mail Report

Inasmuch as no new subject appeared in the mail

this week, and no new angle on the old subjects, few

letters were chosen for abstracting. The official mail
was fairly heavy, but the fan mail itself was exceptionally light, and the subjects of bonds and taxes continued to occupy the minds of most of our writers. The
ratio of those protesting the new Tax Bill to those

approving it is 8 to 1. There is great interest in

periodic payment of taxes on a weekly, monthly or quarterly basis. A number have protested higher rates of

state and local taxation, and a municipal tax in Phila-

delphia has been especially unpopular. There are an
increasing number of letters from taxpayers who submit
statements of income, expenses, etc., and ask an estimate

of what they will have to pay. The question of the tax-

ability of Bonds is also coming more and more to the fore.
Treasury mail shows that opinion is equally divided as to
the merits of a Sales Tax, but on reference from the White

House, we have received 139 postal cards opposing a Sales
Tax and advocating one on gross income. We also have had

few letters commenting on the Victory Tax, but have received 44 pieces of mail from the White House containing

protests of this tax as failing to take into consideration ability to pay.

December 7 is running a close race with Christmas
as a suggested occasion for a bond selling campaign. One

writer states that a billion dollars' worth of bonds can

be sold this December 7 alone. Suggestions follow the
lines of earlier mail, and complaints have dropped to 22.
These deal with issuing, reissuing, and redeeming bonds,

and about one-third are from employees of War and Navy
Departments. Anti-labor views, demands for Government
economy, and comments on inflation have been much less

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-2Memorandum for the Secretary.

November 6, 1942.

frequent, but there is an increase in letters requesting
a published denial of the report that bank accounts will

be frozen by the Government.

There is only a slight increase in inquiries as to
wage stabilization. Since the Office of Economic Stabilization has been set up it has referred to us from 6 to 12
letters or telegrams a day. This correspondence is for
the most part referred to Mr. Sullivan.

We received a grand total of 1,128 pieces of mail
from the White House during October. Exclusive of postal
card campaigns, there were 945 pieces to be handled. The
highest receipts during previous Octobers occurred in 1938
when there were 467 pieces referred from the White House.

Gabrelle E.

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General Comments

J. Thomas Edwards, Lubbock, Texas. I am writing you

this letter to express our appreciation here in Lubbock,
Texas, and all of this part of Texas, for having a man
like you as our Secretary of the Treasury. You and the
President have done more for the people of the United
States of America than any two people that there has
ever been, and this part of the country is for you both
100%, and for what you have done and propose to do. In

getting a law passed limiting all salaries to $25,000

per year and a tax on corporations in excess of 6% on
their capital has done more to help the small people and
companies than anything that has ever been done.

I am personally proud of the way you have tried to stop
the powerful German Trust of I. G. Farben by taking their
stock, and for the sake of the world and God's sake fix

it where they cannot get this stock back into their

power. * I have worked all of my life in banks and

have been President of a small Texas Country Bank, and
I know the way and manner in which the bankers have taken
the advantage of people, and what has gone on in the banks.

And for the farmers, help keep the Farm Security in force
for they are doing a wonderful work with the farmers and
it should be where any farmer could go to the Farm Security
and borrow money at a low rate of interest and not go to
the banks.

Joseph Carl Saltman, Director, Camp Chickawah, Harrison,

Maine. The enclosed check for $50.00 is sent to you by

the boys of Camp Chickawah who took care of an acre of
stringbeans last summer, and picked 2,500 pounds which
were bought by the Portland Packing Company. The boys
want you to send this money to the organization where you

think it might serve our cause best. You may even add

this drop to the Government funds now needed
so much to
*

build the planes to blast the enemy.

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-2Favorable Comments on Bonds

Walter W. Phelps, Santa Paula, Calif. Under the
Agricultural Conservation and Parity Program Payments

I, as a farmer planting a cover crop each fall, received

my 1942 application today. By simply signing my name,
am to receive $35.63. For three years now I have
I

taken this money, feeling that while legally entitled

to it, the money is actually wasted because any good
farmer would follow the practice anyway. # * Why not
pay it out in War Bonds and Stamps? What I will do when
my check comes will be add $1.87 in cash and get a $50
Bond. If that represents an impractical method, why not
put an inslip in the envelope containing the check, sug-

gesting the purchase of Bonds or Stamps?

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-3Unfavorable Comments on Bonds

M. G. Neyrey, Auditor, Higgins Industries, Inc., New

Orleans, La. We have been endeavoring to cooperate
with the Treasury Department in securing additional
sales of War Bonds and as every one is aware of the
shortage of skilled office help, we have been trying
to purchase machines to expedite the work. The Burroughs

Adding Machine Company have on hand, packed and ready

for shipment, two machines which we ordered from them
on October 24, 1942, and on which we made application

for priorities on the same date, sending same by air
mail to the War Production Board, who received it on

October 26, 1942. Though we have been in daily communication with the Office Machinery Department of the
War Production Board, we have been unable to get this

priority issued. We believe we are being given the

run around by the War Production Board, and the sale
of War Bonds is being seriously hampered because we
are unable to keep up with the speed with which our men
want their War Bonds after they have paid for them.
We are spending very nearly $4,000 for these two machines

to help the war effort and certainly it is not helping us

individually but helping the Government of the United

States of America.

Howell Brewer, Cleveland, Ohio. I am a regular employee
of The Aluminum Company of America, whose plant is
located at 2210 Harvard Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio; and as

such am taking approximately forty percent of my wages in

War Bonds, according to the payroll deduction plan. I am,
however, disappointed that I am not receiving my Bonds
anywhere from four to eight weeks after they have been

fully paid for, and they are being dated the date I re-

ceive them, instead of the date on which they were purchased. Ninety percent of all the employees of this
company are taking at least ten percent of their wages
in War Bonds, and they are experiencing the same diffi-

culty. I have repeatedly asked those in charge of the

Bond purchasing why these Bonds are not purchased on time,

and no satisfactory explanation has been given. If this
condition continues it will mean that a large number of

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-4the employees will cancel their payroll deductions for
the purchase of War Bonds. For this reason I am taking
the liberty of asking you to conduct an investigation

with the purpose of determining why these Bonds cannot

be delivered on time, and if not, why they cannot be
dated as of the date of purchase instead of four to
eight weeks later.

Mrs. Jacob Levine, Bronx, New York, sends copy of let-

ter addressed to the Postmaster General. "I herewith
wish to register very strenuous complaint as to the

manner in which your Department is assisting the Treasury
Department of this country in the sale of U. S. War Bonds

and Stamps. In compliance with the request made

by our Government I had purchased War Stamps - the easy

way to purchase War Bonds - to help in the present emer-

gency. On August 27, 1942, I presented my book of
War Stamps at the Bond window of the Highbridge Post
Office in New York City. The very brilliant clerk at
the window, Mr. M. Greenberg, after first cancelling
all the stamps in this book, noted that one of the
stamps had a very small piece rubbed off. This evi-

dently occurred from two sheets of stamps being stuck
together. However, the clerk, M. Greenberg by name,
decided in his own mind that this stamp was no good and
could not be redeemed. Having purchased these stamps

in good faith, I insisted that the Government hold to
its contract. After consulting with a number of clerks
or supervisors in this office, it was finally decided

to give me a receipt for my stamps, and submit the book
for examination by what Mr. Greenberg termed the proper

authorities. On August 31 I received a letter from Mr.

Albert Goldman in which he informed me that my book of
stamps had been sent to the Third Assistant Postmaster

General for advice as to the redemption of this partic-

ular album of stamps. It is now over two months
since I requested a War Bond and no action has been

taken -- all of which proves the truth of my former state-

ment that the Government cannot be in such dire straits,
which led me, my family, and friends to the conclusion
that there was no need for purchasing any more Stamps

or Bonds.

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-5Unfavorable Comments on Taxation

# It would be a real
source of satisfaction if we could find in some Treasury
utterance an assurance that the Department realizes that
John A. Ingham, Leonia, N.J. #

a good many people have no increased income and must of

necessity curtail their buying. We want to do our part,
but we cannot pay out. what we do not receive. I realize
that your tasks are onerous; I would not add to your

burdens, but I do ask that you take a little thought for

those who have no war profits in any way, shape or manner.
With sincere appreciation of your courteous attention, and

with best wishes for the fullest success in solving the
great problems you face.

John Vernou Bouvier, Counsellor-at-Law, N.Y.C. In the
New York Times you were reputed to have said, in sub-

stance, that the rates of taxation in Britain were about
double those obtaining in the United States. Are you
actually persuaded that such is literally the fact, and

have you, in the expression of such belief, considered
the enormous state taxes that, for example, we in New
York, as you are aware, are constrained to pay; to say

nothing, of course, of the incalculable multiplicity of
indirect taxes that attach to practically everything in
our lives, save our respiration.
Grace J. Kinsey, Jersey City, N.J. Where is this excess
income you talk about mopping up with the new Revenue

Bill? We white-collar workers have not seen any of it,
yet we have not created the high cost of living either.

The taxes already passed and threatened ones to come will
make it impossible for me to continue my annuity insurance
premiums of $350 per year, or about 13% of my salary.
Of this 13% over 5% is invested in War Savings Bonds by
the Insurance Company. In addition, I have Invested 5%
of my salary voluntarily in War Bonds, but when compulsory

savings start, I shall be forced to give up my 5% voluntary investment, for I have more than 5% regular medical
bills. Washington seems to be bent on penalizing the

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thrifty citizen who, while Washington was creating
inflation during the past 8 years by wild spending, was

desperately denying himself to keep up heavy premiums under

a 20% cut in salary during the depression. It was loudly
heralded that credit would be allowed for insurance premiums in the new bill, yet you come out with a final bill

allowing only infinitesimal credit against the return-

able portion of the victory tax, which amounts to nothing.
We are not complaining about being taxed, but about

the unfair class distinction which will not allow for

fixed obligations like insurance premiums - which are

SAVINGS AND NOT INFLATIONARY.

Hugh Hardyman, Rancho Laurita, Thermal, Calif. Having

just repaired a truck, laid up since June, I tried to

buy an auto use tax stamp at the local Post Office and
was referred to the Collector of Internal Revenue at
Los Angeles. I mailed a check for $5.00 to the Collector.

The check was returned with the statement that checks
must be certified to be acceptable to the Government.
So I went to the bank at Coachella, seven miles each way

for four tires, and was given a cashier's check, which
I was assured would be accepted as the practice of certi-

fying checks was abandoned several years ago in this

state. Grudging the time taken from harvesting, I mailed

the cashier's check. It was returned, as the rules

insist on certified checks only, and cashier's checks
are not accepted. I have not time to go to the bank again,

nor to the Post Office to buy a Money Order, so am sending

the cash by mail on the chance it may arrive. Every

private enterprise has discovered the convenience of
checks, plain personal checks. Why does the Treasury insist on the immense waste of our time by demanding certi-

fication? To go to the extent of refusing a cashier's

check on a National bank is carrying the practice of
No private firm
badgering us to extreme limits. #
with whom I deal finds certification necessary. Why should
you, my own employee, continue this antiquated and wasteful

habit? Your facilities for dealing with attempted fraud
excel those of any private firm.

welcom
ADDRESS REPLY TO

94

SEORET

EADQUARTERS OF THE ARMY AIR FORCES

WAR DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON D.C.

WAR DEPARTMENT
HEADQUARTERS OF THE ARMY AIR FORCES

WASHINGTON

My dear Mr. Secretary:

fil

November 6, 1942

Answering your letter of November 5, the following is the

information requested.

1. Number of P-51 Mustangs delivered to the British
monthly during each of the past twelve months (factory deliveries)
is as follows:
1941

November
December
1942

38

January
February

98

March

36

April

103

34

90

May

85

June

79

July
August
September
October

26

Total

13
80
0

682

2. Number of heliocopters (as distinguished from autogiros) produced in the United States for the Army Air Forces monthly
during each of the past twelve months, and estimated production
monthly for the remainder of 1942 and for the calendar year 1943 is
as follows:

The Army Air Forces received 1 Vought-Sikorsky XR-4

during June 1942. It is proposed to secure 15 Vought-Sikorsky
XR-4A's, 4 Vought-Sikorsky XR-5's, and 2 Vought-Sikorsky XR-6's.

PORVICTORY

BUY

SECRET

SECRET

The latest available estimate for the XR-4A's is:
1943

January
February

1

0

March

1

April

2

May

3

June

4

July

4

The XR-5's and XR-6's are unscheduled.

The Army Air Forces are also procuring 1 XR-1 and
1 XR-1A from Platt LePage. The XR-1 is now undergoing experimental

tests and the delivery date is indefinite. The XR-1A is unscheduled
until the tests are completed on the XR-1.
We do not have full information as to heliocopters being
produced for the Navy, but understand that this can be obtained from
their Bureau of Aeronautics, Production Branch, Records and Reports,
Attention: Miss Hoffer.
Sincerely yours,

H. H. ARNOLD

Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
Commanding General, A.A.F.

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
Treasury Department
Washington, D.C.

SECRET

95

96

BRITISH AIR COMMISSION
1785 MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE
WASHINGTON, D. c.
TELEPHONE HOBART 9000
PLEASE QUOTE
REFERENCE NO

With the compliments of British Air Commission
who enclose weekly Statement No. 76 covering

Aircraft Flight Delivery as at November 3, 1942.

The Honourable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
WASHINGTON, D. C.

November 6, 1942.

U.S.

SECRET

2

CONF IDENTIAL REPORT
BRITISH

REF. NO. D-55

MOST SECRET

LOCATIONS OF OCEANIC FLIGHT DELIVERY AIRCRAFT - WEEKLY REPORT NO. 76

(Covering Movements through November 3, 1942)
1. BOLING FORTRESS I (B17C) off Contract A-5077
20 DELIVERED TO U. K.
2a CONSOLIDATED LIBERATOR TYPES OFF B. A. C. Contracts

(A) LB30A (824) off Contract A-5068
6 DELIVERED TO U. K.

(B) LIBERATOR I (B2(A) off Contract F-677
19 DELIVERED TO U. K.

1 under repair
20

(c) LIBERATOR II (B2/B) Off Contract F-677
(n) Never taken by U. S. As As F.
55 DELIVERED TO U. K.

1 DELIVERED TO U. K. (Ferry Service)
5 DELIVERED TO M. E. (1 crashed in Africa)
3 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (2 for Establishment, 1 for Ferry Service)
at Montreal
65

(b) Taken by U. S. A. A. Z. and returned or kept
14 DELIVERED TO U. K.
6 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Ferry Service)

1 at Montreal

1 at Detroit
2 on special duty
6 RETAKEN BY U. S. A. A. F.
16 KEPT BY U. S. A. A. F.
74

3. LOCKHEED HUDSON y (LONG RANGE) off Contract A-1769
174 DELIVERED TO U. K.
42 DELIVERED TO DEBERT

1 LOST AT SEA (in flight)
1 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

1 at Montreal

2 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

2 CRASHED IN U. S.

2 under repair
225

Excluding one erash written off by contract amendment.
SUPPLEMENTARY (not included in table at end of report)
SHORT RANGE HUDSON V off A-1749

168 BRAEVERED TO U. K. (by sea)
6 DELIVERED TO NEW ZEALAND (by sea)
1 FLIGHT DELIVERED TO DEBERT
1 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

6 LOST AT SEA

**

Crashed in Canadas returned to Lockheed and written off.
Excluding one crash written off by contract amendment.

be LOCKHEED HUDSON III off B. A. C. Contracts

Contract A-67 RANGE)

46 DELIVERED TO U. K.
GRASHED AFTER EXPORT
50

Including "Gift Plane"
SUPPLEMENTARY (not included in table at end of report)
SHORT RANGE HUDSON III off A-67
29 DELIVERED TO U. K. (by sea)

1 Resident at Lockheed Plant

30

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98

CONFIDENTIAL REPORT

REF. NO. D-55

, BRITISH

MOST SECRE

LOCATIONS OF OCEANIC FLIGHT DELIVERY AIRCRAFT - WEEKLY DEPORT No.

(Covering Movements through November 3, 1942)

he LOCKHEED HUDSON III off B. A. C. Contracts
(B) Contract 4-68 (TOMO RANGE)
211 DELIVERED TO U. K.

3 DELIVERED TO DEBERT

5 LOST AT SEA (in flight)
5 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

1 at Detroit

20 DIVERTED TO U. S. A. A. F.
245

Excluding two crashes written off by contract amendment.
SUPPLEMENTARY (not included in table at and of report)
30 (LONG RANGE) DELIVERED TO NEW ZEALAND (by sea)
71 (SHORT RANGE) DELIVERED TO U. K. (by sea)
101

5. VEGA VENTURA (836)

(A) off Contract A-344
(n) LONG RANGE

102 DELIVERED TO U. K.
75 DELIVERED TO SOUTH AFRICA
37 DELIVERED TO PENNFIELD RIDGE

1 LOST AT SEA (in flight)
1 in Iceland
3 on route South Africa
2 at Gunder
6 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

5 at Montroal

13 GRASHED AFTER EXPORT

1 at Miami or West Palm Beach
2 on route Miami or West Palm Beach

5 at Nashville

3 at Detroit (including 2 for South Africa)
3 CRASHED IN U. S.
9 TAKEN BY U. 8.

268

(b) SHORT RANGE

12 DELIVERED TO PENNFIELD RIDGE

2 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

1 at Montreal
2 on special duty (Pan-Am. Training)

at Detroit (transition)

SUPPLEMENTARY (not included in table at end of report)
10 (SHORT RANGE) DELIVERED TO U. K. (by sea)

(B) off Contract A-1748 (TOMO RANGE)
37 DELIVERED TO U. K.
9 DELIVERED TO SOUTH AFRICA
5 DELIVERED TO PENNFIELD RIDGE

1 in Iceland
6 on route South Africa
1 LOST AT SEA (in flights on route U.K.)

1 at Gander
3 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

2 at Montreal

1 GRASHED AFTER EXPORT

9 at Miami or West Palm Beach
11 at Mashville

5 at Detroit (including 4 for South Africa)

10 at Dallas
1 on special duty (Wright Field)
1 CRASHED IN U. S. (for South Africa)
27 DIVERTED TO U. S. NAVY

244 TAKEN BY U. S. A. A. F.
374

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99
CONFIDENTIAL REPORT
BRITISH

REV. NO. D-55

MOST SECRET

LOCATIONS OF OCEANIC FLIGHT DELIVERY AIRCRAFT - WEEKLY REPORT NO. 76

(Covering Movements through November 3, 1942)
6. CONSOLIDATED FLYING BOATS

(a) off B. As C. Contracts
(n CATALINA I (PBX5) off Contract A-2587
7 DELIVERED TO U. K.

(b) CATALINA I (28-5ME) off Contract F-210
38 DELIVERED TO U. K.

1 DELIVERED TO AUSTRALIA
1 DELIVERED TO SINGAPORE
40

(a) CATALINA I (28-5KE) off Contract A-37
42 DELIVERED TO U. K.

8 DELIVERED TO SINGAPORE
8 DELIVERED TO DARTMOUTH

1 DELIVERED TO BERNUDA (R.A.F.E.C. Establishment)
59

(d) CATALINA I (28-5MB) off Contract AUS-58
17 DELIVERED TO AUSTRALIA

DELIVERED TO U. K.
is

(e) CATALINA IIA (28-500) off Contract CAN-78
17 DELIVERED TO U. K.
9 DELIVERED TO AUSTRALIA
1

DELIVERED TO BERMUDA (R.A.F.F.C. Establishment)
2 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

29

SUPPLEMENTARY (not included in table at and of report)
7 DELIVERED TO CANADA

(B) off Lend-Lease Contracts B.S.O. Requisitions
(n) CATALINA III (PBY5A) off B.S.G. Req. 10772

10 DELIVERED TO U. K.
2 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

12

(b) CATALINA IB (PBX5B) off B.S.C. Reg. 148
83 DELIVERED TO U. K.

2 at Gander

4 at Montreal
1 GRASHED AFTER EXPORT

11 at Elisabeth City
1 on special duty (on loan to U. S. Navy) damaged)

102

(c) CATALINA IB (PBX5B) off B.S.C. Reg. 7952
1 at Montreal

33 at Elisabeth City
34

7. LOCKEED HUDSONS OFF LEND-LEASE CONTRACTS

(A) HUDSON IIIA (A29) off 10-5
130 DELIVERED TO DEBERT

3 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

2 at Montreal for Debert
2 at Ottawa
1 GRASHED AFTER EXPORT

1 at Detroit for Debert

1 at Nashville (transition)

3 under repair

1 at Long Beach

33 for China

20 DIVERTED TO U. S. NAVI

154 TAKEN BY U. S. A. A. F.
5 GRASHED IN U. S.
356

(not included in table at end of report)
49 DELIVERED TO AUSTRALIA (by sea)
12 DELIVERED TO NEW ZEALAND (by sea)
61

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SECRET

100

CONFIDENTIAL REPORT

REF. NO. 1-55

BRITISH MOST SECRET

LOCATIONS OF OCEANIC FLIGHT DELIVERY AIRCRAFT - WEEKLY REPORT NO. 76

(Govering Movements through November 3, 1942)
7a LOCKHEED HUDSONS OFF LEND-LEASE CONTRACTS

(B) MUDSON IIIA (A29) off IC-151

185 DELIVERED TO U. K.
1 DELIVERED TO DEBERT

4 LOST AT SEA (in flight)
5 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)
7 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

1 at Detroit (transition)
2 at Nashville (1 in transition)
2 FOR CHIMA

1 TAKEN BY U. S. A. A. F.
3 CRASHED IN U. S.
211

SUPPLIMENTARY (not included in table at end or report)
45 DELIVERED TO AUSTRALIA (by sea)

42 DELIVERED TO NEW ZEALAND (by son)

1 CRASHED (on acceptance flight)
88

(c) HUDSON VI (A28A) off AC-A73
31 DELIVERED TO U. K.
42 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST
2 DELIVERED TO DEBERT

1 on route Middle East
6 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)

5 at Mentreal (for Debest)
3 GRASHED AFTER EXPORT

2 for special duty (training) Pan-American)
2 CRASHED IN'U S. (Pan-Am. training)
1 TAKEN BY U. S. A. A. F.

95

SUPPLEMENTARY (not included in table at and of report)
4 DELIVERED TO NEW ZEALAND (by sea)

(D) HUDSON VI off AO-908
85 DELIVERED TO U. K.
48 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST
26 DELIVERED TO FREETOWN

31 DELIVERED TO DEBERT

3 on route Middle East
5 on route Freetown
2 LOST AT SEA (in flight)
7 DELIVERED TO MONTREAL (Establishment)
2 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

7 at Detroit (4 in transition)
2 on route Detroit

24 at Miami or West Palm Beach
27 at Nashville or Memphis

1 at Dallas (transition)

11 at Long Beach (5 in transition)
5 CRASHED IN U. S.
TAKEN BY U. S.
265

& DOUGLAS BOSTON IIIA (A20C) off L/L Contract AC-934
11 DELIVERED TO U. K.

2 on route U. K. from Mohtral (U.S. Air Transport Command Pilots)

7 at Gander
23 at Montreal

2 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT

56 at Detroit (2 in transition)

10 on route Detroit
21 at Long Beach
132

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CONFIDENTIAL REPORT

BRITISH

NO. D-55

MOST SECRET

LOCATIONS OF OCEANIC FLIGHT DELIVERY AIRCRAFT - WEEKLY REPORT NO. 76
(COVERING MOVEMENTS THROUGH November 3, 1942)

9. MARTIN BALTIMORETTIA
(A30) off W/ Contract AC-19. B.S.C. Reg. 144
2 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST
1 en route Middle East
3 at Montreal
6 at Miami or West Palm Beach

71
at route
Nashville
or Memphis
(including 2 returned from Montreal)
3 on
Nashville
or Memphis
42 at Newoastle, Del.
4 en special duty (tests by U.S.)

1 CRASHED IN U. S.
133

10. BOEING FORTRESS (817)

(A) FORTRESS IIA (B17E) Army Release

42 DELIVERED TO U. K. (modified)
1 at Gender (modified)

1 at Montreal (modified)
1 on special duty (modified)
12 TAKEN BACK BY U. S. A. A. F. (in April)
TAKEN BACK BY U. S. A. A. F. (in June)
(a) FORTRESS II (BI7E)
(n) OFF LEND-LEASE CONTRACT A--16

1 at Kontreal (modified)
4 at Detroit (modified)
en route Detroit (modified) damaged)
(b) ARMY RELEASE

4 at Montreal (modified)

2 at Detroit (modified)
13

3 at Cheyenne (modification center)
on route Cheyeane (modification center)

11. CONSOLIDATED LIBERATOR III (324D) Army Release

11 DELIVERED TO U. K. (mmodified)
61 DELIVERED TO U. K. (modified)

1 LOST AT SEA (unmodified) (in flight)
4 in temporary South Atlantic Ferry Service (modified)
1 at Montreal (modified)
1 CRASHED AFTER EXPORT (modified)

22 at Fort Worth (modification center)
1 on route Fort Worth
3 TAKEN BACK BY U.S.A.A.F. (2 in Junes 1 in Sept.)
107 2 CRASHED IN U. S. (on route modification centers)
2. NORTH AMERICAN MITCHELL I (B25B) Aray Release

3 DELIVERED TO U. K. (modified)

5 at Montreal (modified); 1 for U.K. 4 to return to U.S. for remodification

2 at Nashville (re-modified)
13 at Minneapolis (for re-modification)
23

13. NORTH AMERICAN MITCHELL II (B250) Army Release

90 DELIVERED TO U. K. (modified)

1 LOST AT SEA (in flight)
1 at Gander (modified)

8 at Montreal for Canada training (modified)
12 at Detroit for Canada training (modified)

7 at Minneapolis (for further modification, S.B.A. installation)

3 at Kansas City (modification center)
37 TAKEN BACK BY U. S. A. A. F. (June)
29 TAKEN BACK BY U. S. A. A. F. (April)

188

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S.

CONFIDENTIAL REPORT

BRITISH

REF. NO. D-55

102

MOST SECRET

LOCATIONS OF OCEANIC FLIGHT DELIVERY AIRCRAFT - WEEKLY REPORT NO. 76

(Covering Movements through November 3, 1942)

16. MARTIN MARAUDER I (B26A) Army Release

4 DELIVERED TO U. K. (modified)

1 at Montreal (modified)
44 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST (modified)

2 on route Middle East (modified)
6 CRASMED AFTER EXPORT (modified) (on route Middle East)

4 at Miami or West Pala Beach (modified)
3 at Mashville (modified)
1 under repair (Mobile)
6 GRASHED IN U. 8. 2 on route modification centery 4 after modification

71

15. TRANSPORTS
(A) DOUGLAS

(n) DAKOTA II (0-53) off B.S.C. Reg. 1050
9 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST

TAKEN BY U. 8.

2

11

(b) DAKOTA I (0-17) off L/L Contract AC-53. B.S.O. Reg. 2849
1 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST

(a) LOCKEFED LODESTAR OFF L/L Contract A0-53. B.S.O. Rec. 1019
(n) LODESTAR IA (C-59)
6 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST

1 ea route Middle East
3 TAKEN BY U. 3. A. A. 7.
10

(b) LODESTAR II (0-60)
15 DELIVERED TO MIDDLE EAST

PLANNING AND AIRFRANK SUPPLY
BRITISH AIR COMMISSION

WASHINGTON, D.C.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

OFFICE OF THE SPOREMENT

November 6. 1948

Received this date from the Federal Reserve

Bank of New York, for the confidential inform
tion of the Secretary of the treasury, compile-

sion for the week ended October 25, 1948, showing

dollar disbursements out of the British Repire

and Freach accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York and the means by which these expenditures were financed.

(Init) E.m.B.

imc:11/6/42

104
C

0

P

Y

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

November 5, 1942

CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary: Attention: Mr. H. D. White
I am enclosing our compilation for the week ended
October 28, 1942, showing dollar disbursements out of the
British Empire and French accounts at this bank and the means
by which these expenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,
/s/ Robert G. Rouse
Robert G. Rouse,

Vice President.
The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
Enclosure

Copy;imc:11/6/42

ANALYSIS OF BRITISH AND FRENCH ACCOUNT

(In Millions of Dollars)

BANK OF ENGLAND (BRITISH COVERAGE

DEBITS
Total
Debits

PERIOD

First year of ware

Gov't
Expendi-

tures(a)

1.793,2

605.6

December, 1940

2,792.3

Second year of wars

2,203.0

1,425.6
1,792.2
904.8

War period through

Third year of ware 235.6

CREDI TS

Sales of
Securities
Other
Total
Debits
(Micial)(b)
Credits Gold
1,187.6
52.0
828.211.356.1
2,109.5

210.82.189.8 14193.2
21.8
330.81.361.5

Oct. 1 - Oct. 28
Oct. 29 - Dec. 2
Dec. 3 Dec. 30

56.1

46.7

37.1

27.4

19.0

Other
Credits(c)

10.8

276.0

575.6
722.1

- 13,2

5.5

1,334.2

0.5

108.0

57.5

7

2.5

21

28

11.5
7,3

7.3

14.0

3.2

10.3

Average Weekly Expenditures Since Outbreak of War

France (through June 19, 1940) 129.6 million
England (through June 19, 1940) 27.6 million

England (since June 19, 1940 33.9 million

8 Pundo(d)

35.0

NEEK ENDED:
14

(+) or
Decr. (-)

420ml

81.6

19.3

BANK

OF

DEBITS

lot Incr.

Proceeds of

Total

Gov't
Expendi-

tures (e)
866.36 416.6(f)
Debits

CREDITS
Proceeds

Other

Total

of Gold

Debits

Credits

Sales

449.7

421.4

456.9

38.9

4.8

8.8

+125.9

18.5

-

34.1
18.5

81.1

+25.5

10.1

-

10.1

0.4

57.5

t..10.9

1942

Sept. 3 - Sept. 30

Wook Ended October 28. 1942

14.5
14.6

-7.0

18.0

+6.5

10.3(d

878.3

1,098.4

4.4

900.2

Credits
1952569

900.2

198.2

+220.1

8.8
4.4

-30.1

-

-

0.3

0.4
0.3

9.7

t 0.3

+01

+3.0

Week ended October 28 1942
Cumulation from July 6, 1940

- 14.1

+01

0.1

+8.3
0.1

0.1

Transfers from British Purchasing Commission to
Bank of Canada for French Account

*For monthly breakdown see tabulationaprior to April 23, 1941
eeFor monthly breakdown see tabulationsprior to October 8, 1941.
...For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 14, 1942.
(See attached sheet for other footnotes)

Other

Net Inor.
(+) or
Deer. (-)
in $ Funds (d)
229.0

162.7

million
million

+ 0.1

(a)

Includes payments for account of British Purchasing Commission, British Air Ministry, British Supply Boardy Ministry of
Supply Timber Control, and Ministry of Shipping.

(b)

Estimated figures based on transfers from the New York Agency of the Bank of MontreAl, which apparently represent the

proceeds of official British sales of American securi ties, including those effected through direct negotiation. In addition
to the official selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during the

early months of the war, although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be identified with any accuracy. According
to data supplied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation
of our securities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million.

(c)

Includes about $85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorised banks with New York banks,
presumably reflecting the requisitioning of private dollar balances. Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
1939 apparently represent the acquisition of proceeds of exports from the sterling area and other currently accruing dollar
receipts.

(d) Reflects changes in all dollar holdings payable on demand or maturing in one year.
(e) Includes payments for account of French Air Commission and French Purchasing Commission.

(f) Adjusted to eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day.

(g) Includes: 63.1 million to be held for credit of U. S. armed forces abroad
2.9 million deposited by British Ministry of Supply.

LISTS OF CANADIAN AND AUSTRALIAN ACCOUNTS

(In Millions of Dollars)

OF

CANADI (and Canadian Government

Transfers
Proceeds

to

official
Total

Debits

PERIOD

First year of wart

British
A/C

323.0

16.6

December, 1940

477.2

16.6

Second year of warts

460.4
525.8

of

Other
Debits
306.4

DI 1563

Transfers

Transfers from Official
British A/C

Net Incr.
(+) or
Decr. (-)

Total

Gold

Credits

Sales

A/C

504.7

612.7

20.9

38.7

32.4

+ 181.7

20.9
3.4
7.7

110.7

41.0
88.5
360.0

230.2

For Own

460.6

707.4

534.8

-

460.4

462.0

246.2

0.3

525.5

566.3

198.6

46.3

53.6
51.5

13.2

For French

Other

Credits

A/C

War period through

Third year of war

COMPONE The BAND OF AUSTRALIA

123.9
-

to

Total
Dabita

Official
British
A/C

⑉00
Net Inor.

Proomeds
of

Other

Total

Debita Credit
27.3
36.1

Gold

Other

Sales

Credits

30.0

6.1

46.3

Oct. 29 Dec. 2

LEPA

Oct. Oct. 28

-

-

41.9

lare

-

-

-

4.9
4.5

3.9

57.9
72.2

14.5

43.4

62.4

1.6

16.7

$5.5

81.2

62.9

18.3

40.5

107.2

57.4

49.8

112.2

17.2

95.0

-5.0

40.4

7.3

28.0

20.5

7.5

18.1

18.1

34.9

14.3

12.0

-99

Cat

2.3

14.6

50.1

12.3

1942

Sept. 3- Sept. 30

() or

Decr. (-)

31.2

.

BANK

+

DEBTTE

Strietty

Work Ended October 28, 1942

-

-

17.5

90

+03

Dec. Dec. 30

MEEK ENDED:
8.2
14

25

20.1

B.O

11.0
16.6

3.0
0.9

...
11.8

4.9

0.9

11.9

0.1

7.7GT

7.7

12.04E

3.2

8.3(ci

2.2
35

3.0

0.6

1.9

1.9

0.3

10.7

10.2

12.0
10.9

12.0

1.3
9.9

12.0
2.0(d

Weekly Average of Total Debits Since Outbreak of War

Through 1972 8 8.4 million

*For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
++For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
+++For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 14, 1942.
(a)Reflects changes in all dollar holdings payable on demand or sturing in one year.

(c)Incluses S. bill proceeds of u.s. Government checks deposited by WAR Supplies, Ltd.

(1)Includes 1.0 million credited to Australia for accestriti of Treasurer of the United States plie Against S. currence and Treasury checks negotiated.

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13

BITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

OPTIL No. 383

Information received up to 7 A.M., 6th November, 1942.
1. MILITARY

EGYPT. 4th. Throughout the day there WALL FL steady advance in

the Northern sector opposed by a gradually thinning screen of guns and tanks behind
hich the enemy continued to withdraw.

4th/5th. Our armoured and infantry forces advanced rapidly, and
by first light 5th had reached the railway vest of EL DABA Station and were within
ten miles of FUKA.

5th. By the evening the German Afrika Corps appeared to be
making a stand on the general line of the escarpment southwest of FUKA, our troops
consisting of U.K. and South African Armoured Car Regiments, U.K. Armoured Forma-

tions and Second New Zealand Division, being then engaged in fighting in that area
At least 5,000 prisoners were captured during the day together with much equipment.
MADAGASCAR. 4th. In the afternoon our forward troops made contact with French troops about 12 miles north of AMBALAZAO. Road blocks continue
to delay the advance.

RUSSIA. In the TEREK sector, German forces are pushing eastwards
from ALAGIR towards ORDJONIKIDZE against stubborn Russian resistance.
2. AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 4th. Four Typhoons attacked and damaged a small

coaster off the Dutch Coast. 7 enemy aircraft crossed our coasts. One shot down.
EGYPT. 4th. United States Liberators bombed BENGHAZI HARBOUR.

Our light bombers and fighters in 700 sorties inflicted heavy casualties on the
enemy withdrawing along the FUKA Road. Enemy air casualties 13,2, 7. Ours, 12

Fighters, nil, nil.
4th/5th. Our aircraft continuously attacked the retreating enen
RUSSIA. 3rd. German aircraft bombed TUAPSE Herbour and on Lake
LADOGA sank a ship and some tugs and barges.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE Nov. 6,1942
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

Mr. Hoflich

Subject: Bombing Raids over Western Europe during October, 1942

1. During October, the U.S. Army Air Force raided
occupied Europe three times, attacking military objectives in six cities. The largest raid was made on a
locomotive factory at Lille by 108 Fortresses and

Liberators. In this raid, four bombers were lost, but
the Americans claim to have destroyed 48 enemy planes
and damaged many more. Altogether, seven planes were
lost during the month.

2. The R.A.F. raided Europe 28 times during the
month with a loss of 90 bombers. The largest daylight
raid was on the Schneider works at Le Creusot. In 6-1/2
minutes 88 bombers dropped 153 tons of explosives. Only
one bomber was lost.

3. The largest night raids were over Cologne (289

planes, 18 lost) and Kiel (288 planes, 9 lost).

4. For the first time since April 1942, the R.A.F.

bombed Northern Italy. The largest raid was made by
112 Lancasters on Genoa. One hundred eighty tons of
explosives were dropped.

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110

Bombing Raids over Western Europe
during October
R.A.F.

I. Raids over Western Europe reported
during October.

II. Bomber losses in raids over
Western Europe.

I.S.A.A.F.

28

31

3

90

Total

97

7

III. Cities reported attacked.
A. Germany

Aachen: Various industrial objectives
Bremen: Aircraft, submarine, ship and

1

1

oil production; port and rail

center

Cologne: Iron and steel, tanks, engines,
rubber, explosives

2

2

1
1

Enden: Port, submarine production

Essen: Munitions, synthetic oil

2

2

3

3

Flensburg: Submarine and shipbuilding
Hanover: Synthetic oil, rubber plant, port

2

2

1

Herrenwyk: Submarine production

2

2

1

Krefeld: Heavy industry center
Kiel: Port, shipyards, submarine produc-

Ognabruck: Rail center, metallurgy
Saarbrucken: Rail center, iron and steel

Wilhelmshaven: Submarine and shipbuilding,
naval base

1

Norden: Industry

1

Munster: Rail and industrial center

1

1

tion

1

1

Lingen: Various objectives
Lubeck: Baltic port, submarine produc-

1

1

1

tion

2

2

1

1

1

2

2

1

1

Wismar: Aircraft works

2

2

Total reported attacks on German

cities during October.
B. Italy

27

0

27

Genoa: Harbor, warship construction,
munitions

2

2

Milan:
Aircraft production
Savona:
Turin: Arsenal aircraft works

2

2

1

1

Total reported attacks on Italy
during October.

0
5

5

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111
R.A.F.

U.S.A.F.F.

Total

III. Cities reported attacked
(cont'd.)

C. Occupied Areas

Cherbourg:
Port, airfield, shipbuilding

Hengelo: station
Diesel engines, power
Le Creusot: Munitions, power plant

Leeuwarden: Aerodrome

Liege: Munitions, iron and steel
Lille: Locomotive works, oil refineries

1

1

1

1

5

5

1

1

1

1

2

1

Lorient: Submarine base

1
1

1
1

Meaulte: Airframe factory
Sluiskil: Chemical works

2

1

Havre: Port, shipyards

1

1

machine works

1

1

Ghent: Iron,copper,oil and

1

Den Helder: Docks

1

2

2

St. Omer: Aerodrome, railroads

1

1

Total reported attacks on cities
in Occupied areas during

October

14

6

20

Total reported attacks on

Western European cities
during October.

46

6

52

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE Nov.6,1942
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

Mr. Hoflich

Subject: British Offensive in Egypt
1. Tank Losses

A. Axis (U.S. Military Intelligence Service, November 6,1942)
During the present British offensive in Egypt, the Axis
forces have lost approximately 500 tanks. This leaves them
with about 80 tanks of all types.
Axis tank strength before the beginning of the present
British offensive was estimated as follows:
German medium

Italian medium

Italian light

275
290
15

Total

580

B. British (U.S. Military Intelligence Service, November
6, 1942)

During the present action about 222 U.S. medium tanks

had been put out of action by November 4, leaving the British
with about 300 tanks of this type. The losses of other types
have not been reported. of the U.S. medium tanks put out of
action, only about 10 percent, or 52 tanks, are considered to
be permanently lost. Ninety percent, or about 170, are believed to be repairable.

British tank strength, before the beginning of the present offensive, was estimated as follows:
U.S. medium

U.S. light

British medium

British infantry
Total

U.S.medium damaged

but repairable

Grand Total

522
125
180
140
967
230

1,197

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2. Plane Losses

A. Axis

1. According to United Nations, British, and United
States communiques:

A United Nations communique of November 4 stated that over

300 Axis aircraft had been destroyed or damaged in the air, and
the same number destroyed or put out of action on the ground,

during the present British offensive.
It is estimated, from other British and American communiques, that at least 182 Axis planes have been destroyed. If
this number is deducted from the 600 mentioned above as destroyed and damaged, it leaves approximately 418 damaged.

2. According to German and Italian communiques:
From German and Italian sources came the announcement of
nine planes lost in Egypt from October 24 to November 3.

B. British
1. According to United Nations communiques, 75 British
planes have been lost during the present offensive. No American
plane losses have been announced.

2. German and Italian communiques have announced the

destruction of 121 British planes during the period October 24 -

November 3, 1942.

3. Artillery
Military Intelligence information indicates that the British

forces had 100 -105mm. gune in Egypt at the beginning of the
present offensive.

It was announced in a United Nations communique of November

4 that 270 Axis guns had been captured or destroyed up to that
time, during the present offensive.
4. Prisoners

The British claim to have captured 13,000 Axis prisoners
during the present offensive to November 6. (British communique)
Military Intelligence has no information on plane losses during the
present offensive in Egypt and no recent estimates of relative plane

strength in that area, except that the British have superiority in
the air.

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INTELLIGENCE REPORT 48 11-6-42

CONFIDENTIAL

OFFICE
WAR

INFORMATION

BUREAU
COPY
Henry

No.

Morgenthau,

CONTENTS
Page

EDITORIAL ATTITUDES

1

Election

1

Battle Fronts

1

Squeeze

3

DEVELOPING SITUATIONS

Hostility Toward Labor
Ignorance of Price Control
Confidence in Price Control

Personal Identification with the War

ENEMY PROPAGANDA

The Japs and Navy Day
Berlin and Rome

Willkie's Speech

4

4

8

11
12

14

14

15

16

EDITORIAL ATTITUDES
ELECTION

Editors turned aside from the war this week to discuss
the congressional and gubernatorial elections. In
volume of comment, these contests took precedence over all other topics.
Much of the interest, however, seemed more formal than fervent.

With the exception of a few vehemently isolationist newspapers, both
Republican and Democratic commentators refrained from discussing basic is-

sues. For the most part, they confined their arguments to the merits of
specific candidates, conventional criticism of the Administration and the
need for a two-party system in a democracy. Great stress was placed on the
importance of voting at a time when democratic liberties are in danger.

BATTLE FRONTS

Press and radio found cheer in the news of allied gains against Rommel in

North Africa. All of those who interpreted the progress of the battle
agreed that the British had won the first round. But they were exceedingly
cautious in forecasting the final decision.
The offensive was represented as long-planned and well-equipped; a number

of commentators stressed the point that the allies now possess numerical

superiority on the ground and dominance of the air over North Africa.
Evidently, however, their respect for Rommel is so great as to make them
guarded in the expression of optimism. The Chicago Daily News, in a fairly
typical comment, ventured the statement that "The African see-saw has been

going a long time, but this may be the last act. There is every indication

that the United Nations are striking in sufficient force to make it so."
Behind such cautious observations, long-range hopes and speculations were

commentators came to the conclusion that American difficulties there resulted from an absence of unified command. They agreed with the Omaha

occasionally expressed, generally in conditional clauses. If the African

World Herald that, against the skillful Japanese, "America has pitted an

offensive should succeed, a number of commentators suggested, a second

Army and Navy often divided by jealousy, always divided in command."

front against the Axis might be opened through an invasion of Italy.

A number of observers went beyond this general indictment, charging speci-

The fighting in Russia was comparatively neglected by the news analysts.

fically that disunity in the South Pacific stemmed from political consider-

They rejoiced in the continued resistance of Stalingrad, but noted that

ations responsible for denying overall authority to General MacArthur. The

the Red army has been unable to expel the invaders from the city and that

Atlanta Constitution, for example, said that "There has been little to ex-

Nasi gains continued steadily toward the Grosny oil fields.

cuse the machinations that have kept the greatest military leader of the

Chief editorial concern centered, naturally, around the fighting in the

United States from a role in the war which would give him scope to exercise
his talent."

Solomons. Uneasiness over developments in the South Pacific gave way at

the turn of the week to sudden jubilance at news of the withdrawal of the
Japanese fleet. The Philadelphia Record called this "the most significant
American naval victory since Midway." But most comment warned that the

Japanese would return and that the fate of the Solomons still hangs in the

The newspapers most bitterly opposed to the Administration are once more tak-

ing up MacArthur's cause, twisting his denial of political aspirations into
proof that he was politically persecuted. "The circumstances," declared
the Chicago Tribune, "all suggest that political considerations had ham-

strung our ablest military leader because his popularity and the faith he

balance.

commanded among the American people were resented If the strings have

In one respect, all commentators felt better satisfied about the Pacific

been loosened so that MacArthur's airmen can help to save the beleaguered

situation. They accepted the prompt announcement of our loss of an air-

garrison on Quadalcanal, it is at the price of a quitclaim on his future,

craft carrier as indicative of a change in Navy news policy and applauded

which would have been in the hands of his fellow citizens in any event,

Elmer Davis as primarily responsible for the improvement. The New York

and not in his own." The Hearst papers, along with others, are booming

Post called it "the Navy's best stroke of propaganda to date. It means

MacArthur for supreme military command of the entire American war effort.

the Navy realizes at last that we don't need coddling." Like the Post, a
good many newspapers felt that "the Navy should have named the carrier, too."
In assessing the development of events around the Solomons, a great many
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SQUEEZE

It is no overstatement to say that American newspapers were displeased with

the executive action placing a $25,000 limitation on individual salaries.

mood to make distinctions between what is and what is not an essential war

The more temperate commentators agreed with the New York Times that "The

industry. Strikes in any field provoke resentment against the strikers.

new ruling represents a clear example of administrative action to circumvent

In a labor dispute in Arizona, a number of big grocery concerns threatened

the will of Congress." Generally, it was pointed out that the measure has

to close rather than meet union demands. In effect, they threatened to

little, if any, validity in controlling inflation or raising revenue. The

strike. Nevertheless, public indignation was directed, not at them, but at

less restrained critics fulminated about Communism and Sovietisation of the

the unions.

United States.

Irritation about strikes is by no means confined to the areas where they

DEVELOPING SITUATIONS
HOSTILITY TOWARD LABOR

occur. In Oklahoma, Texas and Florida, where strikes are notably infrequent, people believe that strikes are common everywhere also. The facts
about the low incidence of strikes are not generally known.

Hostility toward industrial workers is growing throughout
the nation, even among groups which have not until re-

In the present climate of opinion the public may be particularly receptive

cently been unsympathetic to labor. Reports from OWI field offices to the

to the charges of Pegler and other labor baiters about union "shake downs,"

Bureau of Intelligence indicate that anti-labor sentiment is rising, not

racketeering and high initiation and membership fees. Many people feel

only among farmers, business and professional people, but also among teachers,

that unions and labor leaders are getting rich out of the war effort.

office employees, retail salespeople and other white collar workers.

A production-onscious public is also irked because it feels that labor

Generally speaking, the wages of people in these groups have not kept pace

is not exerting itself to the utmost. It reacts angrily to reports that

with the rising cost of living. Naturally, they are envious of the appar-

workers are guilty of slow-downs, are unwilling to put in overtime, and

ent prosperity of war workers. When they read about workers demanding fur-

are frequently absent from their jobs. It is largely unsware that alow-

ther wage increases, and justifying these demande by pointing out that prices

downs sometimes result from raw material shortages and managerial in

have gone up, they see red. They are inclined to blame workers for the

efficiency.

price rises already experienced. They are especially antagonistic toward
the wage demands of workers who are already earning $1 or $1.25 an hour.

Some of the antagonism felt toward labor spills over against the Administration, People who are in a mood to believe accusations made against

All strikes, or threats to strike, are now bitterly resented. Strikes in

unions and labor leaders wonder why the Administration permits such

war plants are considered almost treasonable. But people are not in a

conditions to continue. There is widespread skepticism about the firmness

the Administration will display in cracking down on further wage increases.

Workers face a growing number of restrictions. They can no longer seek

In some quarters the President is regarded as a captive of organized labor.

higher wages; indeed, there is mounting agitation for reducing wages through

Workers are well aware of the feeling against them. Following a series of
articles in a Seattle newspaper about alleged labor abuses at the shipyards,
many workmen from the yards stopped wearing their badges and helmets on the
street.

the abolition of the 40-hour week. Their right to seek better jobs or to
move from place to place may be severely restricted, as it already has been

in one or two industries.
With their opportunities for economic advancement curtailed, the satisfac-

But workers do not feel conciliatory: they are inclined to return the hostility directed against them with interest. They 'believe that they are being deliberately gouged by landlords and storekeepers. As one individual
put it, "Whenever the working man gets a five per cent increase in pay,
they'11 polish up all the old ways and invent a hundred new ways of getting
it back."

tion of workers will depend far more than it has in the past on working,

living and community conditions. If, on top of the sacrifices they are
making in connection with their jobs, they feel discontented with housing,

transportation, health and recreational facilities, their spirit, productivity and willingness to accept continued controls are bound to be inpaired. If, in addition, they believe themselves despised in their communi-

ties, they will feel like pariahs, rather than vital participants in a
Workers believe that they are entitled "for once" to earn good money. In

common enterprise.

most cases they are working long hours under intense pressure. In many

war centers they are living under almost intolerable conditions. Under the
circumstances, their own tempers are often short.

The cleavage between workers and the general public seriously endangers

the entire home-front war effort. The most vigorous efforts are indicated
to renedy the group consciousness and antagonism which are developing.

Whatever the public may think, workers and the labor press do not feel that
they can relax and depend upon the Administration to defend their interests.

Although they have great personal affection for the President, they do not
feel that the Government agencies with which they now have most to do - the
WPB, the Army, the Navy and the Manpower Commission - are on their side.

They believe they are entitled to greater representation in these bodies. Be-

The public needs to be informed - in positive, not defensive terms about the patriotism of labor and the contribution it is making to the war
effort. It is necessary, also, to give people a sympathetic understanding
of the problems workers face and of the conditions under which they are

living. Erroneous notions are prevalent about the extent to which the real
standard of living of workers has improved.

cause they have surrendered many of their basic rights, including the right

to strike, they feel that it is necessary to be vigilant and aggressive.

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A great deal can also be accomplished through local efforts to integrate
workers more fully into the everyday life of their communities. There is a

particular need to erase the line of demarcation in war centers between

The 58 per cent who knew (or guessed) the correct definition of a price

newly-arrived war workers and the established residents. Sympathy between

ceiling were then shown three statements, one of them true, respecting

war workers and the general public is essential to national unity.

the way in which it operates. An additional eight per cent betrayed their

GNORANCE OF PRICE CONTROL

A study conducted in the early part of August for OPA officials by Crossley,
Incorporated, on behalf of the Bureau of Intelligence revealed extremely
widespread ignorance of the nature and application of the Government's

price control program. Interviewing in Indianapolis, Indiana, a city of

ignorance on this test. Thus, only half the people interviewed in
Indianapolis revealed any real knowledge of the nature of a ceiling price.
Scarcely more than one-third of the lowest income groups possessed such

knowledge. Women, who do most of the shopping for the ordinary family,
were found to know less about ceiling prices than men.

400,000 in which the cost of living has been rising somewhat faster than

Additional questioning revealed that many of the people who possessed

the average for American cities of comparable size, showed that nine out

this rudimentary knowledge about ceiling prices were not aware that these

of ten people there believed that the Government should control prices.

prices may vary in different stores. Only 27 per cent of the whole sample

Only eight out of ten people, however, were aware that Government regulation of prices was in effect.

knew what a ceiling price is and how it applies to the different stores in

Ignorance that a price control program was in operation was greater among

which they trade. The lowest income groups almost wholly lacked this knowledge. Only 13 per cent of them were able to answer all of these questions
correctly. Among women of all economic levels, only 23 per cent, as com-

women than among men and considerably more prevalent among the lower income

pared with 31 per cent of the men, passed all these tests.
groups than among the well-to-do or those of average economic status. One
out of three persons on the lowest rungs of the economic ladder did not

All of the people who knew what a ceiling price was (58 per cent of the

know that there was any Government regulation of prices. And these are

whole sample) were also asked if they thought that ceiling prices had been

the people, obviously, to whom price control is of the greatest importance.

set on most of the things, all of the things or only a few of the things
that can be bought today. Only 28 per cent understood that price control

All of the people interviewed were asked, "What is a ceiling price?" They
were shown four definitions of a ceiling price, among which a correct definition was included. Only 58 per cent of the whole sample selected the
correct definition.

was applicable to most consumer goods.

These questions embrace the elementary facts about price control. No more
than 14 per cent of the whole sample interviewed were able to answer all of

them correctly. The following chart presents a cumulative index to

knowledge and ignorance about the price control program.

CUMULATIVE INDEX TO KNOWLEDGE AND IGNORANCE ABOUT PRICE CONTROL
Knows difKnows price
control

exists, and

ferent stores

Knows what

celling

price is, and

have different ceiling
prices. and

Knows ceiling

price applies
to most goods
14%

24%
44%

Accumulated knowledge

about price control

80%

86%

76%

56%

Accumulated Ignorance

about price control

20%

It seems especially significant that information on this subject was rarest
among the people who need it most - women and low-income families. Appar-

ently, a great majority of the public is not buying intelligently - or
even knowlingly - within the price control program.
People do not learn the facts about price control as they ultimately learn
the facts about rationing or most other Government programs - through ex-

perience and participation. Price control, unlike most other programs,
has no educative effect in the process of its operations. And the bulk
of the public apparently has not yet learned much about it from the press

and radio.

A separate study, conducted by the Bureau of Intelligence in August on a
nationwide basis, showed that fewer than one-third of the people then
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expressed full satisfaction with the manner in which the price control
program had operated to keep prices in line; half the public expressed

either partial or outright dissatisfaction with the way the program had
worked. Apparently, therefore, whether or not people have a clear understanding of this program, they pass judgment on it anyway. And this

judgment is likely to affect their satisfaction with the Government's
efforts respecting economic problems in general. It may even affect
their confidence in the future ability of the Government to take adequate

measures for the control of living costs.
CONFIDENCE IN PRICE CONTROL

More recent interviewing conducted by the Bureau of Intelligence indicates that the confidence of the American people in the Government's

ability to keep the cost of living under control has waned rather markedly.
At the end of June, six weeks after the President's seven-point antiinflation program went into operation, about three-fourths of the public

expressed a belief that it would serve effectively to curb prices in the
future. In the early part of October, however, only two-thirds expressed
such faith.

The Bureau posed the following question to representative cross sections

of four occupational groups -- white collar workers, small business proprietors, labor and farmers: "Do you think the Government will actually
be able to control prices?" The table on the following page shows the
percentages in each group answering this question affirmatively in April,
June and October.

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April

June

October

White collar workers

73%

78%

66%

Small business proprietors

71%

75%

64%

78%

86%

66%

70%

73%

59%

Labor
Farmer

Farmers have been consistently lower in confidence about the operation of

price control than any of the other major occupational groups. Labor was,

in the early stages of the program, the most optimistic, but its faith has
now diminished so that it is about on the same level as that of white collar
workers and small business proprietors.

This decrease in confidence respecting the Government's ability to control
prices does not, in any sense, of course, measure the actual effectiveness

with which price control is operating. It stems, perhaps, from the existing
widespread ignorance of the program's operation. People unaware of its

scope may have been misled into thinking that it was operating ineffectively
because they observed that prices were rising on articles, such as food products, which were not until recently covered by OPA regulations.

-

Public confidence in the Government's ability on this score may not be es-

sential to effective application of the price control program. The program
does not require the cooperation of the average citizen. But lack of confidence on this score may lead to general public distrust of the Government's
vigor and efficiency.
PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION WITH THE WAR

The nation's full strength can be mobilized only if its citizens regard the
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war as their war. The extent to which they accept the war as their own may
be measured by the degree of support they give to the war effort and the de-

gree of concern they feel about the fighting.
Two-thirds of the people interviewed in a recent field study were judged to
be vigorous supporters. Most of the rest gave the war some degree of support.
Only three per cent were opposed to the national cause.
More than half of those interviewed were rated as being deeply concerned

about the war. Only eight per cent appeared to be entirely unconcerned.
People who earn less than $1800 a year and have less than a high school edu-

cation are less likely to feel closely identified with the war effort than
those who are more favorably situated. People whose contacts with others are

relatively frequent were found to be more deeply identified than the compara-

tively isolated.
Among the mental attitudes which usually accompany a sense of identification,
four are conspicuous. Those who support the war and manifest anxiety about

it tend to have definite convictions about the nature, course and objectives
of the struggle. Frequently, they have concrete expectations about the postwar world, and feel confident that these can be achieved.
They are more likely than the relatively lukewarm supporters of the war to

identify strongly with America's allies or to think in broad international
terms. Finally, in many cases they have been stirred to real anger by the
actions or attributes of the enemy.
As compared with the number of people who whole-heartedly support the war,

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relatively few feel that they are contributing importantly to winning it.
War work is far more potent than anything else in arousing a feeling of
participation.

People do not appear to be greatly interested in whether their participation
in wartime programs is governed by voluntary or compulsory procedures. They
ask two questions which cut across the voluntary versus compulsory contro-

versy: Is any given program necessary? Is it so administered as to insure
equality of sacrifice?
(These findings summarize a Special Report, "Personal

Identification with the War," issued by the Bureau of Intelligence,

the
Bureau.)
October
28, and available to authorised individuals on request to

ENEMY PROPAGANDA
H

THE JAPS AND NAVY DAY

Japanese propagandists made America's Navy Day the occa-

sion for an all-out short-wave attack on the U.S. Navy.
Tokyo claims an overwhelming Japanese victory in the Solomon Islands battle.

It uses these claims, Ghormley's removal, and U. S. admissions of sinkings
to prove the weakness of the American fleet.

Japan utilizes this alleged weakness to attack America's military and political leadership. "Repeated failures" and growing popular dissatisfaction
are cited as the reasons for Ghormley's removal. It is maintained that the
United States admitted its losses in the Solomons battle only as the result
of "popular pressure," and that important losses still remain undisclosed.
President Roosevelt is charged with being responsibile for the situation
- 14 -

and the only obstacle to peace with Japan. In its "Lights from the East"
program, Tokyo says, "Thousands now are already injured or dead. Then comes
a showdown with Roosevelt and an era of peace with Japan. Roosevelt's

America has failed."

In keeping with this appeal to defeatists and isolationists, Japan borrows

a trick from the Nazis and attempts to prove her impregnability. Not only
is an offensive against Japan impossible, according to Tokyo, but Hawaii and
the East Coast have been jeopardized by recent "American reverses" and com-

munications with Australia and South America are already cut.
At the same time that Japan is attempting to persuade the United States and

the rest of the world of her strength, however, monitoring of her domestic
broadcasts reveals that she is warning her own people against over-confidence.

Although recent battles are interpreted as victories, losses are admitted
and the people are warned of coming U. S. attacks.
BERLIN AND ROME

Japan's European allies also waxed derisive and ironical over America's Navy

Day. Perhaps because of a lack of suitable German victories to stress, the
Nasis put a great deal of emphasis upon recent Japanese "successes" in their
domestic broadcasts.

Probably because of the deep concern the German people feel about the

Russian campaign, the Nasis devote far more attention to it in domestic
propaganda than in broadcasts to North America. Increasing emphasis is put
on the Caucasus offensive and decreasing attention given to Stalingrad.

- 15 -

Britain's offensive in Egypt is treated in a reserved manner by both Berlin

and Rome. Although the official attitude is one of "calm confidence," admissions of British strength and advances have been made to both foreign and
domestic audiences.

Such ambitious objectives are attributed to the offensive, however, that
even if it makes considerable headway, it can still be treated by the Axis

as a failure. According to Berlin, one of the purposes of the campaign is
to pave the way for attacks on Italy. Significantly, Rome omits references
to this objective in its domestic broadcasts.
WILLKIE'S SPEECH

The Axis, following its usual procedure with any important statement,
exploited the Willkie speech in both domestic and short-wave broadcasts.

Both Germany and Italy found it highly useful in their present efforts
to persuade their people that America's production program is failing and
that the United Nations are split by quarrels.
Axis propagandists also wrung ammunition from the speech for their unre-

lenting efforts to create discord among the United Nations. Willkie's
pronouncements were made official by characterising him as "Roosevelt's

right-hand man." The Nazis then proceeded to tell England that the speech
was the President's way of warning her that she may get less lend-lease

supplies in the future. According to Goebbels, the speech also revealed

that the U. S. is attempting to supercede British authority in India.
Lord Haw-Haw tried to show that, by demanding a second front, Willkie
was snubbing Alexander's Egyptian offensive.

16 -

In broadcasts to the Near and Middle East, Rome quoted Willkie as saying

that U. S. silence on the Indian problem had "alienated the Indians." The
Nazis beamed judicious selections of the speech to South America. In

slightly distorted form some of Willkie's statements were also fed back
to America, to foment dissatisfaction with the Administration.

- 17 -

Britain's offensive in Egypt is treated in a reserved manner by both Berlin
and Rome. Although the official attitude is one of "calm confidence," admissions of British strength and advances have been made to both foreign and

domestic audiences.

Such ambitious objectives are attributed to the offensive, however, that
even if it makes considerable headway, it can still be treated by the Axis
as a failure. According to Berlin, one of the purposes of the campaign is
to pave the way for attacks on Italy. Significantly, Rome omits references
to this objective in its domestic broadcasts.
WILLKIE'S SPEECH

The Axis, following its usual procedure with any important statement,
exploited the Willkie speech in both domestic and short-wave broadcasts.

Both Germany and Italy found it highly useful in their present efforts
to persuade their people that America's production program is failing and
that the United Nations are split by quarrels.
Axis propagandists also wrung ammunition from the speech for their unre-

lenting efforts to create discord among the United Nations. Willkie's
pronouncements were made official by characterizing him as "Roosevelt's

right-hand man." The Nasis then proceeded to tell England that the speech
was the President's way of warning her that she may get less lend-lease
supplies in the future. According to Goebbels, the speech also revealed

that the U. S. is attempting to supercede British authority in India.
Lord Haw-Haw tried to show that, by demanding a second front, Willkie
was snubbing Alexander's Egyptian offensive.

- 16 -

In broadcasts to the Near and Middle East, Rome quoted Willkie as saying

that U. S. silence on the Indian problem had "alienated the Indians." The
Nazis beamed judicious selections of the speech to South America. In
slightly distorted form some of Willkie's statements were also fed back

to America, to foment dissatisfaction with the Administration.

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115
November 7, 1942
9:56 a.m.

Harold
Graves:

Good morning.

HMJr:

Now I'm meeting with Eccles at my house tomorrow

G:

HMJr:

G:

HMJr:

afternoon

Yes, sir.
....and we're going over this whole question of
this campaign.

Yes, sir.
I can't remember if I've made any promises or
statements to you, but I want to refresh my
memory.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

He wants to set up a lot of new offices - state

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

offices, you see

and wants these men to be paid, and I think
that - I know he stayed a long time and had a

talk with Bell.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

I think you better get together with Bell

G:

Yes.

if there's anything that you want to say

HMJr:

....80 to me between now and four o'clock Sunday, you'd
G:

better say it.
I'd better say it before noon today, hadn't I?

HMJr:

Yup.

G:

Yes, sir, I'11 be - I'11 do that right away.

HMJr:

will you do that?

115
November 7, 1942
9:56 a.m.

Harold
Graves:

Good morning.

HMJr:

Now I'm meeting with Eccles at my house tomorrow

G:

HMJr:

G:

HMJr:

afternoon

Yes, sir.
.... and we're going over this whole question of
this campaign.

Yes, sir.
I can't remember if I've made any promises or
statements to you, but I want to refresh my
memory.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

He wants to set up a lot of new offices - state

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

offices, you see

and wants these men to be paid, and I think
that - I know he stayed a long time and had a

talk with Bell.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

I think you better get together with Bell

G:

HMJr:

G:

Yes.

....80 if there's anything that you want to say

to me between now and four o'clock Sunday, you'd

better say it.
I'd better say it before noon today, hadn't I?

HMJr:

Yup.

G:

Yes, sir, I'll be - I'11 do that right away.

HMJr:

Will you do that?

-2G:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

Right.

G:

Goodbye.

HMJr:

Thank you.

116

117

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON

November 7, 1942.
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:

RE: Your meeting tomorrow with Mr. Eccles.

I talked briefly with Mr. Bell regarding Mr. Eccles's

plan to establish Victory Fund Committee offices at various
places throughout the Country with paid staffs.
Mr. Bell told me that he was not sure what Mr. Eccles
had in mind, but said that Mr. Eccles had used the city of

Provo, Utah, to illustrate his point--that is, to illustrate the necessity for local offices with paid staffs.
Provo, Utah, has a population of about 18,000.

There are about 500 places in the United States
larger than Provo, so I think that Mr. Eccles must have
in mind a very widespread and elaborate organization for
the Country as a whole.

Contrasted with this, the War Savings Staff now has a

headquarters office in each of the 48 States, with district

or local offices at about 30 additional cities, these latter

being mainly staffed by volunteers.

I believe:
(1) That it would be disastrous to the War Savings

Staff to parallel that organization in the various States
by a professional Government bond-selling organization,
such as is evidently contemplated by Mr. Eccles; and that

(2) Quite apart from the effect of any such plan on
the War Savings Staff, it is questionable, to say the
PORTICTORY

BUY

BILL

118
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least, whether it would be good policy for the Treasury
to sponsor any such organization as that evidently contemplated by Mr. Eccles.

Recommendation

It seems to me that the Eccles proposal is directly
related to the question of paying compensation to dealers

for the sale of Treasury securities. I accordingly

recommend that you advise Mr. Eccles that this particular
matter, like the question of compensation, will be held
in abeyance pending further study.

I suggest also that you would find it helpful to

discuss this whole matter with Mr. Odegard, Mr. Gamble,

and myself, in some detail, before arriving at any
decision.

A

GRAVES.

119

11-7-42
ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

TO THE SECRETARY:

I have taliced to Harry White and to
Ferdie, who is in New York today. Ferdie will
talk to John Davenport or someone else of the
Time crowd to try to get them to see that the

sort of thing they are doing is obstructive and

dangerous. Joh- Davenport was in a group of
writers to whom Rendolph Paul talked at Morris
Ernst's house this week. He was the most critical,

probably indicating that he iswriting this stuff.
Totling would be gained by any direct

answer to this time article, in my opinion,

with which the others agree. I think we should
get the President of A.B.A. to spread the word

around to counteract this sort of thing so for

as he can, and I have talked to Dan about this.

I could talk to Felix Beldar, head of the
Time staff here, but I feel it would be useless,
since I am sure these articles are teing written
in New York and that Time is being needled and

fed by some of our friends in the street. Therefore it is most important to get a better atmosphere there if it can be done without any surrender to them.

However, I think it might be helpful if we
could get John Davenport or somebody else in a
respo sible position on Time down here for EL talk

UOS.

Sf fish to me about Hnich the

120

NOV 7- 1942

Dear Fiorella:
I have your telegram of October 31st, advising me that New York City will need tabulation
machines in order to comply with the tax law pro-

viding for withholding at the source.

Your situation is representative of the broad
problem which requires War Production Board determination as to the types of equipment which can be

made available. I suggest that you send me the

applications for preference ratings (WPB Form PD-1A)

listing your specific requirements. The matter will

then be taken up with the War Production Board with

the thought of working out a solution on an overall

basis.

Best regards.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Honorable Fiorella H. La Guardia,
Mayor of New York,

City Hall,

New York, N. Y.

File direct to Mr. Bell 11/10/42
Photo file NMC.

in you

not sential
November 6, 1942

Dear Fiorello:
I have your telegram of October 31st
advising me that New York City will need
tabulating machines in order to comply with
the new tax law providing for withholding
at the source.
I am having the whole matter of
tabulating equipment needed for Treasury
purposes surveyed by our Procurement Division.
I do not know whether we can satisfy all of
the requirements created as a result of the
tax and other laws, but we shall do our best
to meet the problem.

Best regards, and thanks for calling
this to my attention.
Sincerely,

Hon. Fiorello H. LaGuardia,
Mayor of New York,
New York, N. Y.

FK/cgk

122

not sent
November 6, 1942

Dear Donald:

The enclosed telegram from Mayor LaGuardia

advises me that New York City will need tabulating
machines in order to comply with the provisions of
the new Victory Tax. I need not emphasise to you
the importance of prompt and efficient tax collection
from such a large body of salaried people.

I shall appreciate anything you can do to give
the Mayor's request the promptest possible attention.
Sincerely,

Hon. Donald M. Nelson,
Chairman, War Production Board,
Washington, D. C.

Enclosure

122

material
November 6, 1942

Dear Donald:

The enclosed telegram from Mayor LaGuardia

advises me that New York City will need tabulating
machines in order to comply with the provisions of
the new Victory Tax. I need not emphasize to you
the importance of prompt and efficient tax collection
from such a large body of salaried people.

I shall appreciate anything you can do to give
the Mayor's request the promptest possible attention.
Sincerely,

Hon. Donald M. Nelson,
Chairman, War Production Board,
Washington, D. C.

Enclosure

123
COPY OF TELEGRAM

NEW YORK OCT 31
HONORABLE HENRY MORGENTHAU JR

SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH SECTION FOUR SIX SEVEN OF TAX
LAW PROVIDING WITHHOLDING TAX, IT IS NECESSARY THAT
NEW YORK CITY WITH ITS TWO HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND
SEPARATE PAYROLL ACCOUNTS HAVE TABULATING MACHINES.

WILL YOU PLEASE AID IN GETTING PRIORITY FOR NEW YORK
CITY. DO NOT KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT OTHERWISE.

F. H. LE GUARDIA
MAYOR

124

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

November 9, 1942

MEMORANDUM RE: Matters discussed with Secretary Morgenthau
November 7, 1942

1. Renegotiation of contracts.
Mr. Randolph Paul and I talked with the Secretary

relative to the matter of renegotiating contracts as

authorized in the 1942 revenue act. The Secretary
signed an order authorizing me to renegotiate contracts.
Mr. Paul explained that the War and Navy departments,
likewise the Maritime Commission, have had the authority
to renegotiate and that the Treasury Department was just

recently authorized under the 1942 revenue act; further,
that it seemed advisable that the agency having the
predominating interest because of the larger volume of
business with a supplier should be the one to carry on

the renegotiation for all four agencies. The Secretary

requested that Mr. Paul assign one of his best men to

participate in this procedure to avoid the possibility

of signing contracts which otherwise might not be acceptable to the Treasury Department.
In response to the Secretary's question as to how
such matters would be handled, I stated that if the

agency having the largest volume of business renegotiated

for all four agencies, in all cases in which we did not

carry on the renegotiation there would be somewhat of an
"open end," and our knowledge of the basis of the set-

tlement would be a review of the file rather than participation in the renegotiation. The Secretary requested

that a procedure be worked out whereby administrative
safeguards could be established and that the best men
obtainable be used for this work.
BUY

125

Matters discussed with
Secretary Morgenthau

-2-

11-9-42

2. Priority assistance to obtain necessary equipment for
withholding tax accounting at source.
I referred to a telegram to the Secretary from

the Mayor of New York advising that tabulating equip- ment will be needed in connection with the withholding
tax and reviewed the file which had been handed to
me by Miss Chauncey immediately before going to the

Secretary's office. The file contained three letters

prepared for the Secretary's signature, - one to Mayor
La Guardia stating that the Procurement Division is
now studying the matter of tabulating equipment,
another suggested letter to Mayor La Guardia stating
that the matter had been referred to Nelson, and a
third letter to Nelson commenting on the matter.
The Secretary stated he wished the matter handled

on the basis of the broad approach to the entire problem as others as well as New York City are concerned.
I accordingly prepared a letter along those lines, and

I gave it to the Secretary at 2 o'clock.

Chifton'E.Mack

Director of Procurement

126

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

November 7, 1942

Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Randolph Paul

I thought you might be interested in the
attached copy of letter from the Office of War
Information.

I call your attention particularly to the
last paragraph which is underlined.

by
Enclosure

127
OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION
C

0

Washington

P

Y

November 4, 1942
CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Randolph E. Paul
General Counsel
Treasury Department

Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Paul:

Your proposed address, submitted in conformity with the White House
directive on speech clearance, entitled "Taxation and Consumer
Spending," which you will give before the Women's Group of the
New York Credit Men's Association, in New York City, November 5,

has been read in the Office of War Information. It seemed to raise
questions within the responsibility of the Office of Price Administration, Commerce Department, and the Office of Economic Stabilization, to whom it was referred.

There is no objection to the statements made, and the address is
approved for delivery as planned.
However, it was pointed out by several of the agencies concerned

that the figures which you use to show the "inflationary threat"

are not in complete harmony with those furnished to heads of other

agencies by their statisticians. This whole question is one which

cannot be solved on one speech and Mr. Kuhn was advised and agrees

with us that the whole thing must be worked out in conferences.

However, it was felt that this address was a concide outline of the
whole problem -- the best so far -- and one which should issue from
the Office of War Information. Arrangements for Office of War

Information release were made with your press relations and with
Mr. Jack Durham of our News Bureau, who will see that this has as
wide coverage as possible.

Sincerely,

/s/ John R. Fleming
John R. Fleming

Chief

Bureau of Publications and Graphics

128

128
Page 1

FEDERAL RESERVE OPERATIONS IN GOVERNMENT SECURITIES

Column A shows Federal Reserve operations

Market purchases 1/
Market sales M

is millions of dollars as follows:

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Column 3 above price changes is 32nda. except

for certificates which are true decimale

Direct purchases free Treasury

Maturities
Last Week

This Week

3

A

A

3

A

3

A

.

,

A

3

a

,

A

,

,

A

,

A

A

3

A

A

+67.0

+68.7

+29.8

-41.0

+530.4

-29.0

-3.5

-86.2

-73.1
+97.5

+139.3

A

+95.4

-1.9

-10.8

3

A

Full Week

I. Summary

+99.4

+150.1

4

Nov. 2F

Description

,

Index

6

Full Veek

31

,

30 F

29

3

28

A

27

B

Oct. 26

+22.3
4441.0

+26.0

+63.9

+1.9

+26.3

+59.7

Market purchases
Market sales

+25.9

Meliday

-15.0

Direct purchases free Treasury

-73.1

Maturities

+371.1

Total set increase or decrease (-)
Vednesday report of total portfolio

+136.4

+17.2

+18.4

+22.2

220.1

-26.5

-53.0

-10.0

-31.0

-135.5
4156.2

-35.8

48.4

-5.8

168.4

98158.2

-287.6

e1236

-118.5

-13.7

e411.2

551.0

11. Taxable Securities
+16.7

+41.3

-10.8

-1.9

Bills all issues combined
+35.0

-41.0

-34:0

-73.1
+39.

+5.9

-001

+33.6k.005
+6.8
+7.4

-39.1

+.6

..

+8.8

+22.4

+6.0

Market purchases
Market sales

Maturities

+6.5

+114.1

+6.1

+.6

+20.5

+152.1

-15.0

-26.5

-33.0

-10.0

-31.0

-135.5
a123.6

-44.9

-9.4

-10.2

-107.0

+.3

+11.6

4336

Total not increase or decrease(-

+25.4

002

+11.3

+1.4

+5.2

-86.2

-6.5

-36.0

Certificates

001

+.1

+184.1

-3.5

-73.1

-9.2

+1.3.001

+25.9

5/8
.65 C - ME
5-1 43
7/8 3- 8-1 43
1/25

-004

.4

+25.0

+6.0

+7.1

1004

+71.89.008
+13.89.005

1005

003

+30.1

006

4016

11-1

42

7/8 D - 11-1 43

025

-287.6

-257.6

+5.0

+9.4

..

*..

+.5

$4158.2

5.006

+.00

+.00
+.00a

+26.31+.005

+004

008

+001

0.009

+.4/+.01)
+10.61+.00

+5.3

+.00

4358.21+.018

fressury notes
2

+13.1

+1.5

+16.1

+1

+1

3/46

D-

3-15

3/4

9-15

11

1-1/4

DC-

12

3/4

3-

+1

+3.8

+1.1

+2.3

+1.2

+3.5

+2.8

+1.0

+1.0

+1.0

+.6

+1.5

+.1

+1.9

+1.0

+1.2

3 16

+.4

+2.6

3 17
3 18

+2.8

+6.0

+4.8

+.7

+15.7

3 21

+7.5

3 26

+.5

+.3

+3.8

3 27

+1.0
-1

3 12

+1.4

+.7

+1.3

4.4

+.2

+4.3

1

-1

+1
-5

-6

0

+136.3

+75.4

+92.5

-1.9

+19.4

+62.8

+29.8

4488.3

-41.0

-29.0

-3.5

-86.2

+19.7

+53.8

+26.3

+1.0

+6.9

+1.0

+1.0

+1

+1.0

+1.0

+1

12-15 49-51

3-15 50-52

+1.0

12-15 51-55

3 28

2-1/4

6-15

3 32
3 36

2-1/2
2-1/2
2-1/2

3-15 56-58
6-15 62-67
9-15 67-72

EFG 1-1/85

7-15

RFC

4-15

000 1-1/8

2-15

+1.0

+.1

58-34
52-55

Market purchases
Market sales

Direct purchases free Treasury

-73.1

Maturities

+329.0

Total not increase or decreased

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury. Division of Research and Statistics.
Less than $50,000.

+1.1

+1.0

+.6

+1.0

+.5

+.1

+1.9

+.2

+1.6

I

-1

-1

7

All taxable securities

+60.7

-73.1
+73.5

0

-10.8

+6.8

49-51
49-51

3-15

37

0
-1

6-15

9-15

2-1/2

-1

+147.1

.4

of

3-15 45-50

25

2

+1.2

+2.7

2

+1.6

+2.0

3-15

1-1/2 , 12-15 46

# 14

+123.5

+.3

+.5

+6.8

+3.9

+1

by

Treasury boads

+.4

+.2
+.1

+7.5

2

+1.0

+33.2

2

+1.0

+6.1

12-15

A-

# 13
+69.0

43

-

3-15 %

.

..

+23.9

-15.0
41158.2

-287.6
-120.5

+131.3

+13.7

-26.5

+15.3
-10.0

€@1.0

$005.2

-53.0

-31.0

-135.5

al23.6
-18.8

-19.1

5.3

-10.0

Original figures revised.

V Purchases and sales recorded as of day of transaction and not day of delivery. Transactions after 4 e'slook are included is the next day.

129

129
Page 2

FEDERAL RESERVE OPERATIONS IN GOVERNMENT SECURITIES

Column A above Federal Reserve operations

Market purchases 1/

is millions of dollars as follows:

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Column B above price changes is 32nds. except

Market sales V

for certificates which are true decisals.

Direct purchases from Treasury

1

Maturities

Last Week

This Week

Description

Nov. 2

Full Week

h

3

3

3

A

A

,

A

A

3

,

A

a

3

A

5

Index

6

Full Week

31

7

30

,

29

3

A

A

A

a

,

A

a

A

,

A

28

27

,

Det. 26
A

A

III. Tax-exempt securities
Treasury notes

1-3/49 12-15

-1

1-1/8

-1

A-

C-

1

1-1/8

AC-

10

is

..

-

+1.6

+2.
+6.9

+.1

+.8

+1.0

3-3/85

+6.5

+.2

+6.0

+1.5

+5.4
+10.6

+1.8

a

44

3-1/4

4-15

46.46

3-1/8

4-1/4

,

2

13

2-3/4
2-1/2
2

15

3-1/8

19

,
,

3 22

-1

6

+.1

3 23

B

+.5

+.5
+.1

-1

+.5

+.1

-1

+.5
+1

-1

+3.6

+.1
+.6

+.1

+1.6

-2

-2

7.5

+1.5
+1.1

+1.0

+.1

+.5

+1.2

-1

+.3

+.5

-1

+1.4

+.5

-1

+.1

-1

+.1

-1

+.6

+.6

3-15 48-51
9-15 48
12-15 48-50
12-15 49-52

2-1/4

12-15 51-53
6-15

53-55

6-15

54-56

3 31

2-7/8

333

2-3/4
2-3/4
2-3/4

the

-1

+.5

3-15

+1.3

+.7

+.6

+2.6

-1

+1

-1

-

+.5

+.5

-

+.6

+1.1

+.4

+.

-1

55-60

+.1

+.1

an
+.7
+.5

+.5

12-15 60-65

+1.5

+.3

Outranteed securities
a

1
0

,

2-1

3-15

44.40

TTNC

3-15

44.64
44.52

a
.

ROLO

+3.0

+3.0

$2.0

-

0

-1

-1

is

TTNC
3

-1

000 3/46 , 5-1
USEA 1-3/8

HOLC

45-47

All tax-exempt securities
+2.9

+6.3

+5.9

+42.1

Market purchases
Market sales

+2.0

+5.1

+3.5

+3.1

+1.2

14.9

+2.0

+5.1

+3.5

+3.1

+1.2

+14.9

Direct purchases free Treasury

Maturities
+2.9

+6.3

+5.9

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury. Division of Research and Statistics.

+12.1

-1

-2

+1

2-1/4

3 34

+1

+.7

25

3 29
3 30

+.5

6-56

3-15

6-15 46-48
6-15 46-49
10-15 47-52

12-15 49-53
9-15 50-52
6-15 51-54
9-15 51-55

2

+1.0

+.1

be

2-1/2
2-1/2
2-3/4

324
*.5

-

-2

+1.3

12-15 47

3 14

3 20

+1.2

+1.0

43-45

12-15

9

11

+1

-1

43-47

2-1/2

E

-1

+1

6-15

2-3/4

10

+1

9-15

3-15 45

10-15

3

+.1

+1.0

44

3-1/4

3-3/4

-1

-3

6-15

12-15 44.54
9-15 45-47

-1

-1

+1.

is

3-15

5

+.3

43

43

6

+2.5

+5.5

2

+1.9

9-15

Treasury bonds

+1.0

1

+1.5
+1.6

+3.0

3/4

-1

by

12-15

33/4

Holiday

42

6-15

Total not increase or decrease(-)
Original figures revised.

Less than $50.000.

V Purchases and sales recorded as of day of transaction and not day of delivery. transactions after 4 e'clook are included is the next day.

-1

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THE

SUN
NOV 7 1942

centage would doublless be less in 1942 In this comparison of English taxes
for national income In Britain has beenwith our own, we must also consider
rising) the British are paying slightly the degree to which taxes have risen
We are glad to publish elsewhere more in income taxes than we. On a per since the war. On this score, too, we are
this page a letter from the Secretary accupita basis, however, the British are about level with the British Take the
the Treasury and an accompanyingpaying slightly less than we are. You case of a married man in England with
table comparing our American individual take your choice, but in either case horchildren and earning €1,000 in 1938
ual income-tax rates in the lower brack the conclusion is quite different from thess Such sum was then equivalent to
ets with those in England. We are nolone which Mr. Morgenthau would haveabout
$5,000 in
American money. In
British subject would have
1938 such
impressed, however, by the evidenceus accept.
which the Secretary adduces in support Not only does Mr. Morgenthau failpuid £144.19 6d in income taxes. To
of his contention that "the British azeto compare the total yield of Incomedity he is required to pay a net tax after
paying income taxes about twice and excess-profits taxes in the two coun-post-war credit of £302 15s 10d, an inheavy as those we shall be paying tries, but he also fails to take account ofcrease of 158 38 4d, or $790.68 at the
differences In methods of assess-old/rates of exchange. (At present rates
this country in 1943."
It is true, as Mr. Morgenthau evers ment as between the British and our-of exchange the figure would be much
that British individual income-tax rate solves. Under the British system,lower) Now compare this with a mar
in the lower brackets are much higher dividends paid by a corporation to aried man with no children receiving
than ours. But that statement standingstockholder are not subject to the $high$5,000 a year in the United States. His
by itself gives a very misleading picturerates of the British normal tax. The taxes in 1938 would have been $82, and
of the comparative tax burden in theBritish hold that such income has beenhis taxes next year. after the post-war
two countries. The fact is that under the taxed In the hands of the corporation/credit is deducted, will come to $770.28,
new tax bill the burden of individualand that the individual is entitled town increase of $708.28
and corporation income and excess-prof-receive what is left free. This means The increases in England and in this
its taxes will be about equal to the bur-that while individual rates on earned country as well represent war taxes,
den of individual and corporation incomeincome in the hands of British taxpayers Surely If the Increases be compared It
and excess-profits taxes in England. are higher than ours, British incomecannot be said that the war has laid
More On Income Taxes
Here And In Great Britain

a

Consider the facts. According to Sens- taxes on unearned income in the hands twice as heavy taxes on the British as on

for George, the individual and corporatof individuals are much lower than ours.our own people.

tion taxes under the new law will bring Mr. Morgentbau contends that this
in $20,054,000,000 a year. This sum #difference is of no moment. He says that

about eighteen per cent. of our national only one half of one per cent. of all
income for 1942, and it represents taxpayers received income exclusively
burden of $152 per capita. On the other from dividends in 1936. This point could
hand, British individual and corporation also be very misleading, If allowed to
income taxes for the year ending nextstand alone. The statistics of income as
March are expected to yield £1.416/published by the Treasury show that
000,000. which is equivalent at presen@dividends received by taxpayers in
rates of exchange to $5,664,000,000. This1936 amounted to $3,173,844,000. and

is a per-capita tax burden of only 8106,that this qum represented 14.5 per cent.

which is less than our own, but, on that all individual income subject to tax.
other hand, it represents approximately.In England this 14.5 per cent. of indi
twenty-two per cent. of the British/vidual Income would not have paid any
tax In the hands of its recipients, but in
national income in 1941.

In other words, as compared with this country It bears the full weight of
their national income in 1941 (the per-the individual levies.

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THE

SUN

NOV 7 1942

Income Tax Comparison
Secretary Morgenthau Renews His Contention That The
British Pay Twice The Levies We Do
To THE EDITOR OF THE SUN
Sir: Last Monday I gave the press

some figures contrasting the per

taxes with the combined Federal
and State income taxes payable
by persons living in New York. We

sonal income taxes payable by the

choose New York State even

British taxpayers. These figures.

because of the large number of tax.

vast majority of American and

computed for persons receiving in-

though its rates are higher than
those prevailing in most States.

payers who live in New York.
It may be helpful to you to have

comes primarily from wages and
salaries, show that the British are
paying income taxes about twice

the attached table (the table ap

as heavy as those we shall be pay-

ing the personal income tax which

pears immediately below) compar-

ing in this country in 1943: Your
editorial November 5 charges me
with giving some misleading fig.
ares. May I ask the hospitality of
your columns for a reply?
Your criticism is based on the

tax with the personal income tax
payable by a resident of Great

example of a taxpayer who receives

liability in Great Britain is at

Since in 1941 only five per cent. of

country for taxpayers with incomes

$4,000 income from dividends.
the entire national income came
from dividends, while almost sev-

enty per cent. represented the com-

pensation of employés, it is clear
that a taxpayer whose income is
derived exclusively from dividends
is anything but typical
As a matter of fact, In 1936. the

most recent year for which we

have such figures, only one half of
one per cent. of all taxpayers received their income exclusively
from dividends. I leave it to you
to judge which is more "mislead

ing comparison of taxpayers

receiving incomes primarily from
wages or salaries or one of taxpayers receiving incomes exclusively from dividends.

The figures I released to the

press compare the British income

will be payable by an American tax-

payer subject also to the Maryland
Britain.

You will note that the net tax

least twice as large as that in this

below $4,000. The American taxpayers in this group account for
more than ninety per cent. of all
taxpayers under the net income tax

and for an even larger percentage
of all taxpayers under the Victory
tax.

Further. the post-war credit in
Great Britain can be taken ourrently only in rare instances where-

as the Victory tax post-war credit

in this country can be taken cur-

rently up to the amount of debt re-

payment. payment of insurance
premiums, and purchase of war
bonds. For most taxpayers, total
tax liabilities in Great Britain are
even larger relatively to those in
this country than net tax liabilities.
H. MORGENTHAU, Ja.

Washington, Nov. 5.

INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX
Amount of tax and effective rates in the United States and
in Great Britain
Married person-Do dependents
United states. Incleding
personal

exemption*

Great Britaini

Maryland-Blate SEAT

Net income before

Total iss Post-war
liability

credit

Net tax
ability

Total tax Post/ear
liability

credit

Net tax
liability

AMOUNT OF TAX
$1,000

$24

$10

$50

$111

$61

79

280

94

185

188

505

127

378

$15

1,500

100

2,000

220
754

76

678

1,405

193

1,211

4,000

1,357

1,238

2,305

260

6,000

121
165

1,855

3,305

260

8,000

2,030

2,045
3,045

210

2,573

4.505

260

4.245

10,000

2,783

$1,000

2.4

1.0

1.5

1,500

6.7

1.4

5.3

2,000

11.0

1.6

21

32

EFFECTIVE RATES (per cent)
11.1

6.1

5.0

18.7

6.3

12.3

9.4

25.3

6.4

18.9

35.1

4.8

30.3

4,000

18.9

1.9

17.0

2.0

20.6

38.4

34.1

22.6

4.3

6,000

41.3

38.1

25.4

23.3

3.3

8,000

2.1

45.1

2.6

42.5

2.1

25.7

10,000

27.8

Note: Due to rounding, items may not add to totals.
*Before deduction of the Maryland State tax. All income is assumed

to be earned

Tax liabilities shown forethe United States include the Victory
tax. which becomes effective on January 1, 1943.
Pound converted at $4.

133
Nov. 7, 1942

My dear Mr. Secretary:

There is enclosed a copy of an opinion of the General
Counsel for the Department of the Treasury, obtained ourswant to the recuest made by the Quartermaster General
through Captain Charles L. Kades. That ovinion rules
that officers of the Department of War may properly certify
under Executive Order No. 9177, dated May 30, 1942, 7 Fed.
Reg. 4195, that the procurement of the following types of
war materials constitutes "an emergency purchase of war
material abroad"

(1) Captured materials, including (a)
materials of any origin captured or recaptured by the United States forces, (b) materials of any origin captured or recaptured
by a national of one of the United Nations or
by the armed forces of such a nation and turned
over to the United States forces, and (c) materials taken by United States forces in occupied territories after the cessation of

hostilities in such territories.

(2) Materials seized (recuisitioned) by
the United States forces abroad.

(3) Rebuilt materials; that is, materials
which are refabricated from other materials
owned by, captured by, or turned over to, the
United States forces.
(4) Material received (either by ourchase, gift, or as reciprocal Lend-Lease aid)
from the government of, or an individual
national of, a foreign nation (not necessarily
one of the United Nations) for study and testing with a view to its ultimate use by the
United States forces.
The materials, it is understood, would be brought into
the United States by the armed forces for purposes in
connection with the actual conduct of the war.

-2-

see

As the opinion indicates, this Department is

inclined to the view that the Tariff Act is not applicable to transactions of the kind here involved. How-

ever, since such transactions may be properly viewed as
emergency purchases of war material abroad, it is believed
that the wiser and more expedient course, at the present
time, would be to have the certificates contemplated by
Executive Order No. 9177 executed. Accordingly, the
various Collectors of Customs are being advised that
henceforth any materials falling within the enumerated
categories should be admitted free of duty uoon receipt

of the certificate recuired by Executive Order No.

9177.

(a)

Very truly yours,
(Signed) Herbert E. Gaston

Acting Secretary of the Treasury.

The Honorable

The Secretary of War.
Enclosure

134
OP. NO. 540

NOV. 6, 1942

My dear Mr. Secretary:

The question has arisen whether officers of the Department of
War may properly certify under Executive Order No. 9177, dated May 30,

1942, 7 Fed. Reg. 4195, that the acquisition of the following types of

war materials #constituted an emergency purchase of war material abroad",

(a) Captured materials, including (1) materials of any origin
captured or recaptured by the United States forces; (2) materials of any
origin captured or recaptured by a national of one of the other United
Nations or by the armed forces of such a nation and turned over to the
United States forces; and (3) materials taken by United States forces

in occupied territories after the cessation of hostilities in such
territories.

(b) Materials seized (requisitioned) by the United States forces
abroad.

to

(c) Rebuilt materials, i.e., materials which are refabricated
from other materials owned By, captured by, or turned over to, the United
States forces, as, for example, a tank reconstructed from the parts of
partially demolished enemy, United Nations, and United States tanks.

(d) Material received (oither by purchase, gift, or as reciprocal
Lend-Lease aid) from the government of or an individual national of, a
foreign nation (not necessarily one of the United Nations) for study and
testing with a view to its ultimate use by the United States forces, as,
for example, a gun invented by a Mexican citizen and sont to the United

States for testing. It is understood that the purpose of bringing the

materials into the United States is either (1) for scrap, or (2) for
study or testing, or (3) for training purposes.
It is my opinion that certificates for such materials may properly be made.

It is to DO noted, first, that there is grave doubt Mother the
provisions of the Tariff Act may be applied to the movement by the United
States armed forces of war materials in time of war. It is fundamental
that statutos should not be so construed as to raise grave questions of
their constitutionality. United States v. LaFranca, (1931) 282 U.S. 568,

574; Ann Arbor Railroad Company v. United States, (1930) 281 U.S. 658, 669.

It is also clcar that an matters relating to the actual conduct of the
war are vested sololy in the Prosident. By Constitution Art. II, SCC. 2,
it is provided that the President shall be the Commander in Chief of the

Army and Navy, and, while Art. I, sec. 8, cl. 11, of the Constitution vests
in the Congress the power to declare war, that power does not include the

power actually to conduct the war, Thus, the dobatos in the Constitutional

-

As the opinion indicates, this Department is

inclined to the view that the Tariff Act is not apolicable to transactions of the kind here involved. How-

ever, since such transactions may be properly viewed as
emergency purcrases of war material abroad, it is believed
that the wiser and more expedient course, at the present
time, would be to have the certificates cortemplated by
Executive Order No. 9177 executed. Accordingly, the
various Collectors of Customs are being advised that
henceforth any materials falling within the enumerated
categories should be admitted free of duty uoon receipt
of the certificate required by Executive Order No.
9177.

Very truly yours,
(Signed) Herbert E. Gaston

Acting Secretary of the Treasury.

The "onorable

The Secretary of War.
Enclosure

134
OP. NO. 540

NOV. 6, 1942

My dear Mr. Secretary:

The question has arisen whether officers of the Department of
War may properly certify under Executive Order No. 9177, dated May 30,
1942, 7 Fed. Reg. 6195, that the acquisition of the following types of
war materials "constituted an emergency purchase of war material abroad",

(a) Captured materials, including (1) materials of any origin
captured or recaptured by the United States forces; (2) materials of any
origin captured or recaptured by a national of one of the other United
Nations or by the armed forces of such a nation and turned over to the
United States forces; and (3) materials taken by United States forces

in occupied territories after the cessation of hostilities in such
territories.

(b) Materials seized (requisitioned) by the United States forces
abroad.

to

southes

(c) Rebuilt materials, i.e., materials which are refabricated
from other materials owned by, captured by, or turned over-to, the United
States forces, as, for example, a tank reconstructed from the parts of
partially demolished enemy, United Nations, and United States tanks.

(d) Material received (oither by purchase, gift, or as reciprocal
Lend-Lease aid) from the government of or an individual national of, a
foreign nation (not necessarily one of the United Nations) for study and
testing with a view to its ultimate use by the United States forces, as,
for example, a gun invented by a Mexican citizen and sont to the United

States for testing. It is understood that the purpose of bringing the
materials into the United States is either (1) for scrap, or (2) for
study or testing, or (3) for training purposes.

It is my opinion that certificates for such materials may prop->
erly be made.

It is to bo noted, first, that there is grave doubt methor the
provisions of the Tariff Act may be applied to the movement by the United

States armed forces of war materials in time of war. It is fundamental
that statutes should not be so construed as to raise grave questions of
their constitutionality. United States V. LaFranca, (1931) 282 U.S. 568,

574; Ann Arbor Railroad Company V. United States, (1930) 281 U.S. 658, 669.

It is also clear that an matters relating to the actual conduct of the
war are vested solely in the Prosident. By Constitution Art. II, sec. 2,

it is provided that the President shall be the Commander in Chief of the
Army and Navy, and, while Art. I, sec. 8, cl. 11, of the Constitution vosts
in the Congress the power to declare war, that power does not includo the
power actually to conduct the war. Thus, the debates in the Constitutional

-Convention show that the war clause as originally reported gav Congress
the power to "make war". That phrase. was changod to "doclare warm thus

#leaving to the Executive power to repcl suddon attacks", It is noterthy that Lr, Ellsworth, later Chiof Justice of the Supremo Court, with-

dren his objection when Mr. King such stod that #tmake war might bo
understood to 'conduct it, which was an Executive function". 3 Documentary History of the Constitution of the United States of America (Dopt.

of State 1900) 552-554 Again, the concurring opinion of Chiof Justice
Chano and Justicpa Wayno, Swayno, and Miller in Ex parto Milligan, (U.S.

1066) 4 Wall. 2, 139, contains the following exposition of the rulo:
"Congress has the pow not only to raise and
support and govern armics but to doclar war. It
has, therefore, th: power to provide by law for
carrying on war. This power necessarily extends

to all logislation essontial to tho prosocution of

war ml th vigor and success, except such as interferes
with the command of the forces and the conduct of
campaigns. That power and duty bolong to the
President as commanderwin-chicf, Both these powers

are derived from the Constitution, but neithor is
defined by that instrument. Their extent must bc
determined by their naturo, and by the principles
of our institutions.
"The power to make the necessary laws is in
Congress; the power to execute in the President
Both powers imply many subordinate and auxiliary

powers. Each includes all authoritics essential
to its duc exercise. But neither can the Prosident,
in war more than in pcacc, intrudo upon the proper
authority of Congress, nor Congress upon the proper
authority of the President.

Finally, in the recont caso of Ex parte Quirin ot al., (1942)
11 U.S. L. Wook 4001, 4003, the Supremo Court stated

"The Constitution thus invests the President
as Commander in Chiof with the power to wage war
which Congress has doclared, and to carry into
affect all laws passac by Congress "for the conduct

of war and for the government and regulation of
the Armod Forces, and all laws defining and punishing offences against the law of nations, including
those which portain to the conduct of war. (Underscoring supplied.)

It follows that the Congress cannot constitutionally chact any law which
interforce with the actual conduct by the President of a war.

135
3

-

The movement of men and materials is plainly an essential factor
in the actual conduct of the war. No one would contend, for example, that
the Congress could validly impose a head tax on troops moved in and out of
the country by the President in the exercise of his powers as Commander in

Chief, Similarly, it seems obvious that a requirement that war matorials
brought into the country, by the Uni ted States armed forces be subject to
the various proccures of Customs and to the payment of dutios might con-

stitute an Illegal interference with the President's powers, particularly

since Customs procedure requires appraisal and appraisal necessitates inspection. The onds to which the armed forcos have gond in the protection

of the American bomb sight, for oxamplo, might be millified if that sight

were open to Inspection by a Customs official. The necessary delay 00casioned by claring such materials through Customs might be a further and
not inconsequentIal interference with the President's powers.

It is, of coursc, true that some of the proporty brought in by
the armed foroos is captured materials, and that the Congress is by Art. I,
sec. 8, cl. 11, of the Constitution given power to #make Rules concerning
Captures on Land and Watdr". I do not deem it nocessary to determine the

extent of that power. It is sufficient for mo to say that if that power

is construed to permit the imposition in time of war by the Congress of

duties and burdensome Customs procodures on the bringing into the United
States by the armod forcas of war materials described above, the power

may then be brought into conflict with the President's constitutional

power actually to conduct the war, and that, consequently, gravo questions

of constitutional law are raised. Within the authoritics citod above, the
Tariff Act ought not, in the abs nco of an express indication to that

effect be construod as an attompt to impose dutiqs and burdensoma Customs
procodures on war materials brought into the United States by the armod

forces in the conduct of war if it can properly bo otherwisc construct.

To construe it as imposing such dutios and procoduros raisos grave con-

stitutional questions.

That the Tariff Act may be properly construod not to includo
captured war mat rials or booty is ovidenced by the Briof reported in
connection with (1898) Treas. Syn. 19508. That decision, which was
approved by the Attornoy Gonoral, roads:
"Treasury Department, Juno 18, 1898.
Lours

"Collector of Customs, Now York, N.A.H. There
is no existing law exacting duty on goods condomned

by a prize court, and, in the absonco of such author
ity, no duty can be collected. Neutral goods ro-

leased by a prize court may be delivered to owner

for immodiate export. If rétained for consumption
in this country, they become dutiable on appraiso-

mont,

W. B. Howell, Assistant Secretary."

4-

The Briof, which was submitted to the Attornoy General, contains the
following portinont passage:

"What, then, is the intontion of Congress with
respect to prise-proporty as imported morchandise?

The titlo of the tariff. act shows that customs dutics:
are imposed for two purposes, namely, (1) to provide
revonue for the Government, and (2) to oncourago

domestic industrios. Is either of those purposes

served by the imposition of dutios on prizo goods?

Assuredly not. The status of such proporty is
ossentially different from that of ordinary importations. The lattor are voluntarily exported in the
usual course of commerce; the formor are captured by

superior force from the public onomy. In the one
caso, the name of the exporter, the country of exportation, and the character and value of the goods are

material facts; in the other caso, it is immaterial

from whom or where the goods camo, or what they aro
worth. *

"The taking of prizos is an act of war in

furthcrance of the object of war. The Government
derives no reyenuc, as such, therefrom.

"Nor docs the imposition of dutics on prizo
goods accomplish the socond purpose of tariff logislation. The element of compotition betwoon domestic
and foreign morchandisc, as such, is wanting. # **
Those arguments, applicable to prizes captured during the Spanish-American

War, are equally applicable to the war matorials here under considoration,
One of the decisions incorporated in the Briof submitted to the
Attorney General substantiates the proposition that the revenue purpose
of the Tariff Act doos not require imposition of duty on captured goods.
The Liverpool Hero, (C.C.D. Mass. 1814) Fod. Cas. No. 8,405, 15 Fed. Cas.

639. In that caso, Mr. Justice Story, sitting in Circuit, hold that an
act which exempted prize goods from the non-importation acts, but provided that such goods, when imported into the United States, should be

subject to dutios, did not apply to the portion of the goods belonging
to the United.,States, but did apply to the portion bolonging to the
officers and crow. The reasoning upon which the decision concerning

the United Statos goods was based was that Ba * * it is difficult
to conceive how the United States can either pay or securo the duties to
thomsolvos It is, of courso, a fact that the professed purposo of the

136

customs duty statutes at that time W38 solely revenue, but the protectivo
purposo of the Tariff Act is certainly not defeated in the instant caso.

I call your attontion also to the reasoning of Attorney Gonoral
Bonapart in (1908) 26 Op. Atty. Gen. 466. Ho there hold that coal imported by the Navy was subject to duty since a comparison of the language
of earlier acts (excmpting Government importations gonorally) with the
language of the then act (omitting that exemption except in specific casos)
indicated A Congressional intent that Government imports should be subject

to duty. Howgver, no held that the purposes of the then tariff act did
not requiro such a holding, stating that (at pago 468)
"The mischiefs to be redressed or, in other
words, the purposes of the legislature in this case,
are indicated wi th sufficient accuracy by the titlo

of the act itself. It is entitled 'An act to provide
revenue for the Government and to encourage the in-

dustries of the United States. The first of the purposes thus expressed certainly would not be promoted
by requiring the payment of duties by the Government

on articles imported from foreign countries for its

own uso. So far as the Government is concernod, such
payments would amount, in effect, merciy to taking
money out of one pocket and putting it into another;
obviously, this process would not 'provide revonuc

for the Government. It is true that the law might

be supposed to furnish a motivo for the Exocutivo

Departs in the expenditure of general appropri-

ations to purchase American rather than foreign goods,
but, since we must assume that all responsible officers

of the Government will be guided in their public acts
by the policies adoptod, by the Congress, WC must also

assume, in the construction of the statuto, that this
of

y

According to most authorities, the distinct protective policy began
with the law onacted in 1816. IV Dictionary of American History (1940)
365,

2/

That decision does not affect my conclusion that the Tariff Act
should not be construed to include war materials brought into the
United States by the armed forces in the conduct of the war, since
the importation there involved occurred in time of peace,
davorit.fr

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motive would exist in full force without the necd of
any such onactmont. If, therefore, the avoted, and
univorsally understood, purposos of the act wore all
that WC had to consider in this connection, I should
find in them no sufficient reason to outweigh the
presumption that the Government was not included in
the general languago requiring payment of dutics by
importors.

Enough has been said to indicate that it is my view that the
Tariff Act should not be construed to require that war materials brought
into the United States by the armod forces in the conduct of war bc subject to customs procedures and dutics. That view, of necessity, rendors
Exocutive Order No. 9177, supra, and the Act of Junc 30, 1914, c. 130, 38
Stat. 399 (U.S.C., 1940 ed., titlo 34, sec. (568), upon which it is based

superfluous with rospect to materials here doaIt with in timo of mr. If,

however, it bo concoded, arguendo, that the Tariff Act does apply, then it

is novertholose my view that Exocutivo Ordor No. 9177, and the Act of Juno
30, 1914, supra, permit Importation by the Government of such war materials
froo of duty,
Exocutivo Order No. 9177 authorized the Secretarios of War, Navy,

Agriculture, and Trensury, and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to
exercise the duties vested in the Secretary of the Navy by the Act of June
30, 1914, supra. That statute roads as follows:
## # # Provided, That hereafter the Socretary
of the Nivy is hereby authorized to make emergency

purchases of war torial abroad: And provided

further, That whon such purchases are made abroad,

this material shall bc admitted free of duty."

It has been suggested that the rulo of #commercial designation",

1.0., that in tho interprotation of laws imposing duties on imports, the
language used by the Congress shall be construed according to the commorcial

understanding, requires that the word #purchase", as used in the quoted
statuto, be given the narrow commercial meaning of acquisition in exchange
for money. It is to be notod, however, that the quoted provision is a part

of the appropriation act for the naval service for the fiscal your 1915,
Two Hundred Chosts of Tea, (U.S. 1824) 9 Whoat. 430, 438; Maddock V.

Magono, (1894) 152 U.S. 368, 371; Bakolito Corporation V. Unitod Statos,
(1928) 16 Ct. Cust. Apple. 378, 381.
y

As is indicated by the manner in which the provision is codified, it
is, in effect, a separate provision although it appoars in the appropriation

actthe
following
in
section.several other *provided* clauses as the last two such clauses

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7

and that the provision dealing with imports appears only as a proviso to
the authorization to make emergency purchases abroad. It is the general
rule that a proviso must benconstrued in the light of the language to
which it is appended The Dollar Sayings Bank V. United States, (U.S.
1873) 19 Wall. 227, 235. I am, therefore, of the opinion that the rule
of commercial désignation" limi ted as it is to. construction of customs

laws, does not apply in the instant case. Particularly is this so since
the word #purchases", as it appears in the proviso, 11 modified by the

word "such", referring to the phrase in the earlier portion of the
statute, "emergency purchases, of war material abroad".

tris further my view that, with reference: to property obtained

in occupied territory after cessation of hostilities in that territory,

the conclusion I navelstated above is not affected: by the rule that goods
imported from occupied territory is subject to customs duties. The cases
announcing that rule (Fleming et al. v. Page, (U.S. 1850) 9 How 603,
A.S. Lascelles & Co. V. The United States, (1914) 49 Ct. C1. 382, aff'd.
sub. nom, De Paso v. United States, (1917) 223 U.S. 625) are distinguishable since they GILL not deal with war materials brought in by the United
States armed Corbes as part of the conduct of the nar.
There remains the question whether the matorials here dealt with
may be considered "emergency purchases
of war material abroad".
at
Several strong arguments can be made for the proposition that
the word as used in the act under consideration was intended in its

broadest sense. Particularly apt is the language of the court in Unitod
(at
States V. Beaty, (W.D. Va. 1912) 198 Fod. 284.5 It was there
black
bite said
page 286)

* When used in a statute, the word 'purchase
is froquently held to include any method of acquisition
other than by doscont. 7 Words and Phrases, 5853. To
construe the word here to mean only ,acquisition by buying, we must assume that Congress had in mind the method

of acquisition Father than the general purpose to acquire.
The mere use of the word purchase which may have
been used in its technical sense 44 is not to my mind a
sufficient reason for such assumption. If, as TO must,
we give the members of Congress credit for a reasonable
knowledge of human nature, they mist be assumed to have
S/

This case was reversed on another point in Beatty V. United diamissed States,

(C.C.A.) 4th, 1913) 203 Fed. 620, cert. denied and writ of error could.
(1914) 232 U.S. 463a The circuit court of appeals statod that it

find no error in the ruling of the trial judge onothe point hore in-

volved (see page 621).

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known that to restrict acquirement to voluntary

sales by the owners would most probably defeat the

chief purpose for which the appropriation purchase
of land was mado. (Underscoring supplied)

In like manner it may be said that; since the statute here in question
was intended as permanent logislation and deals with materials of war,
the Congress, giving it credit for a reasonable knowledge of the manners
and methods of conducting war; must be assumed to have, known that war
materials are ofton, through necessity, or the fortunes of wary acquired
in ways other than by buying, and that those ways includo capture, soizuro,
exchange, and gift, and, in fact, overy conceivable method by which a war-

ring nation may acquire war materials. If the act is so construed, there

is no difficulty in holding that a tank or similar article fabricated by

the United States forces from several partially demolished tanks is also
purchased (1.0., acquired) within the moaning of the act,

Again, the derivation and dictionary definitions of the word
#purchase furnish a strong basis for thb conclusion here reached. The
word is derived from the French words "pour" and "chacier", the literal
translation of which is "to pursue, to chaso", and is defined by Wobster's
Now International Dictionary (Second Edition), in part, as follows:
"That which is obtained, got, or acquired, in

any mannor, honcstly or dishonestly; gain; booty;

acquisitions; now, specif, that obtained for a
price in money or its equivalent.

Funk and Wagnalls Now Standard Dictionary defines the word (151

"The act of purchasing; acquisition by giving
an equivalent in money or other exchange value; the

acquiring or obtaining of anything by paying a price
of any kind, as by exortion or running a risk."

Those definitions are of value so far as they indicate that, while the
specific meaning of the word "purchase" is "that obtained for a price in

money or its equivalent", in its broader sense the word clearly oncompassos captured war materials (booty; acquisition by running a risk),
refabricated American materials (acquisition by exortion), and donated
materials (acquisition in any manner).

The legislative history of the Act of June 30, 1914, throws no

the light on the question. Nowhere in the hearings, reports, or debates
provision in question mentioned,

is

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9

Further, it is to be noted that even within the specific definition of the word, the materials obtained by the United States by roquisition, or as reciprocal Lond-Loaso aid, are "purchases". By definition
requisitioned materials are paid for, and by virtuo of the so-called

"Mastor Agreements", which the Unitod States has entered into with cach
nation receiving Lond-Lease aid, aid given to the United States is constituted a part of the quid pro quo for Lond-Lease aid by the United Statos.

It is cloar, thereforc, that all such materials are obtained by the Unitod
States for a prico in money or its equivalent.
In summary, it is my opinion that the Tariff Act should not be
construct to apply to the materials hore in question, but that if that act
is so construct, the materials are exempt from dutios as "omorgoncy purchases of war material abroad". Undor eithor view, there would be no im-

proprioty in the oxecution by officers of the Department of War of the
certificate required by Exocutivo Order No. 9177.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Randolph Paul
General Counsel.

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury.

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BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE
OFFICE OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON, D.C. SECRET

NOV 7 1942

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury.
Dear Mr. Secretary:

The minutes covering the meeting of the Board of
Economic Warfare, which was held on Thursday, October 15,

are enclosed. If there are any corrections which you care
to suggest, please let me know.

Also enclosed is the Agenda for the next meeting of
the Board to be held on Thursday, November 12.
Sincerely yours,

Nile
Parki
Executive
Director
Enclosure

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when What
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SECRET
AGENDA

FOR THE BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE MEETING

TO BE HELD NOVEMBER 12. 1942 AT 10:00 A.M.
IN THE OFFICE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT

II THE CAPITOL

1. Discussion of report on Cryptostegia, "Report to the
Board of Economic Warfare on Cryptostogia". Report
attached.

2. Further discussion of Swedish trade policy.
Reports attached - BL-10 Rev. 2 "Trade Policy Toward
Sweden"

BL-10-b "Trade Policy Toward Sweden"

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Minutes of the Meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare
Held October 15, 1942 at 10:00 a.m.
A meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare was held in the Vice

President's office in the Capitol Building at 10:00 a.m. on October 15,
1942.

Those present:

The Vice President, Chairman of the Board
Mr. Dean Acheson, representing the Secretary of State

Mr. E. M. Bornstein, representing the Secretary of the Treasury
Mr. Charlos Fahy, representing tho Attorney Genoral
The Secretary of tho Navy
The Socrotary of Agriculturo
The Socretary of Commorco

Hr. Nolson Rockofellor, Coordinator, Inter-Amorican Affairs
Mr. E. R. Stottinius, Jr., Lond Leaso Administration
In addition, the following porsons were present:
Mr. Wayne Taylor, Department of Commerce

Mr. T. L. Clayton, Department of Commorco
Mr. Loslio Whoolor, Department of Agriculture
Mr. Robort Pattorson, War Dopartmont

Mr. Harold H. Noff, War Department
Mr. Thomas K. Finlottor, Stato Department
Mr. Milo Porkins, Board of Economic Warfaro
Mr. Cass Canfield, Board of Economic Warfaro
Mr. Hickman Prico, Jr., Board of Economic Warfaro
Mr. E. W. Gaumnitz, Board of Economic Warfaro

The Vice President oponod tho mosting indicating that tho mooting
had not boon hold for somo timo duo to the absonco of himsolf and Mr.
Porkins, but that mootings woro to bo hold moro rogularly horoaftor.

Tho Vico President thon roforrod to the South African roport.
"Proposed Action for Assisting the South African War Program. Tho Vico
Prosident gave somo background on the report indicating that South Africa

was stratogically locatod, is contributing to the war offort but that
further contributions aro dosirablo and important, that any furthor increase

in war offort apparently would bo depondont on roduction of gold production.
Up to the presont, apparently tho policy of the British and South African
maintain or increase gold production, gold-produc-

15 cont
theprovailing whitos and in 1939.
Governments tion currontlyabout
has running
boon abovo
to por lovol

Ho indicated that gold production was omploying about 40,000
365,000 nativos and consuming supplios amounting to about 3,000,000 tons

the of which tonnago was producod domostically, with
howovor from the Unitod Statos and

por somo yoar, supplios groator part boing raised England. the quostion Ho indicatod of

further that any docronse in gold production always
the effect upon tho political situation in South Africa, thoro boing concorn which
that a roduction in gold production would tond to causo unomployment
in turn might result in the ovorthrow of the Government.

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Mr. Perkins indicated that the proposal set forth in the report
involved attacking the problem !positively! by giving assistance to
South Africa in the development of var industries, at the same time reducing supplies to be used for gold production purposes, these objectives
being handled through a Supply Council which would "screen" South African
requirements. The Council would be composed of three representativos,
one each from the United Statos, South Africa, and Groat Britain with

unanimous agroomont boing nocessary.

To assist in the developmont of war industrios, tho Unitod Statos

would undortako to mako available supplios necessary for this purposo,

within the limit of ovorall supply and shipping considorations. Undor
such a procoduro it was ostimated that gold production might bo roducod

by moro than 25% Mr. Josso Jonos was very positivo in his fooling that
overy effort should bo made to cut gold production by moro than what
soomod
to bo contomplatod. Ho folt that this should bo dono with spood
and
dispatch.

In tho discussion, it was mado clear that increased omphasis on
war industrios was limitod by availablo labor, both skilled and unskillod,
that increased labor could only bo drawn from gold mining, that gold would
not bo roducod without prossuro and assistanco, and that attompts to socure
moro
oxtonsivo
conversion had thus far boon rósistod by both the British
and South
Africans.

It was also the conconsus that the bargaining position of tho Unitod
Statos could bo onhancod if a goal wore ostablished roquiring tho maximum
convorsion possiblo rathor than a reduction in gold production of more than
25% and latitudo woro allowed in the axact procoduro to bo followed in
accomplishing tho result. Tho following rosolution was passod: (tho oxnct
wording of which was cleared following the mooting.)
"WHEREAS, The successful and oarly conclusion of tho

nor roquiros the most offectivo utilization of all the rosourcos
of tho Unitod Statos and of tho Unitod Nations:

"AND WHEREAS, It is bolieved the Union of South Africa is

in a position to lond furthor aid to the vor offort of the Unitod
Nations by maximum conversion of its industrios to Your production;
"NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, That the Board of Economic

Warfaro recommonds that maximum and rapid conversion of tho South

African oconomy to a full war oconomy bo achioved, that the approprinto U. S. agoncios assist in such convorsion by making availablo

such supplios, within the limits of production and shipping facilitios,

ns are necessary for the further development of South African var
industrios, and that appropriato administrativo monsuros bo takon
for carrying out this program aggrossivoly.
The mooting odjourned nt 11:15 a.m.

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BEW-Imports
November 6, 1942

REPORT TO THE
BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE
ON CRYPTOSTEGIA

Summary

A tropical perennial vine, known in India and recognized as a
source of rubber since 1837. Fast growing, disease resistant,
low percentage rubber content per plant, relatively high yield
per acre. Probably imported to this hemisphere as a decorative
plant. Seeds have been widely spread via winds and tropical
storms. Now found in Mexico and Central America.

Cryptostegia was first investigated in June 1942. Quality of

rubber investigated and found good. Seed shortage and no mechani-

cal extraction mothod deterring factors. Adequate staff assigned
to survey to locate seeds.
The problem of extraction was assigned to Eastern and Southern
Laboratories of the Bureau of Chemistry and Engineering of the
Department of Agriculturo in oarly June. Indepondont research
also being conducted by MIT, and several tire company labora-

tories. Progress is boing made but the problom of extraction
via mechanical moans is not solvod.

SHADA in Haiti working with the Department of Agriculturo has
developed a practical hand extraction mothod - much labor is
involved but yields of ovor 200 pounds por acre are indicated.
A contract with SHAJA for acreages up to 100,000 has boon

executed, "cost return" basis - nominal foo. At present nogotiations are boing conducted with other contractors for plantings when sood is available. Requirements - ample labor supply
to onable hand tapping if necessary and flat land to onablo mochanical harvesting if developod.

-2CRYPTOSTEGIA

First Known. The first reference we find about Cryptostegia is a report of
this vine grown in the Botanic Garden in Calcutta in 1837 and stated to
yield a rubber superior in whiteness and elasticity to that of Ficus Elastica.
In 1889 we find the reference "a considerable effort is being made to extend
the cultivation of this plant both in Madras and Bombay" and that "Cryptos-

tegia grandiflora is cultivated in gardens in nearly every section of India."

In 1890 the Conservator of Forests, Southern Circle, Madras, reported that

this vine, "grows well all over the plains and yields a fair amount of sap
we first find a report of a chemical analysis of C. grandiflora which is
very closely in line with results we are obtaining today, namely, Rubber 89.5
which on coagulation produces a very firm and superior rubber," In 1904

percent, Resin 7.9 percent, Insoluble 2.6 percent. Although we have been
able to find repeated references to Cryptostegia rubber (known as Palay
rubber) in East Indian reports, nowhere have we been able to find it
definitely stated that it has been produced in commercial quantities.
Species. There are two species, C. grandiflora and C. Madagascariensis,

also as interspecific hybrid. It is upon C. grandiflora, the most abundant
species, that our program is based, and all figures given here relate to
this
species. C. Madagascariensis has too low a rubber content to be of
interest.

Quality of Rubber. Cryptostegia rubber has been analyzed, vulcanized, and
tested by some of our leading rubber chemists, including Hauser, Haefele,
West, McGavack, and Trumbull, and all of these by their reports show great

enthusiasm for it. The following extracts from a letter written by

Dr. Trumbull of the B.F. Goodrich Company to Mr. Bicknell of Rubber Reserve Company, sum up the general opinion of these experts:
11

We should be very fortunate, indeed, to be able to get rubber
of as good a quality. X-Ray interference diagrams of this (rubber)
were identical with those from hard fine para. Because of the
high quality of rubber derived from Cryptostegia, because of the

fact that it comes from a natural latex with particle size, ranges
in size and uniformity of particle size, close to hevea latex;
because the rubber is truly isoprone rubber, it seems to me to

morit attention I earnestly hope that something is done to
promoto cultivation and harvest of this vine rubber. II

Additional commonts follow:

From Mr. H. L. Trumbull of the B. F. Goodrich Company: "Because
of the high quality of rubber derived from Cryptostegia, because

of the fact that it comes from a natural latex with particle
size, ranges of size and uniformity of particle size close to
hevea latex. Because the rubber is truly isoprene rubber, it

soomod to me to merit attention undor the act of March 5, 1942.
This suggestion was left with the committee and I earnostly
hope
thatrubber."
something is done to promoto cultivation and harvest of
this vino

Mr. A. V. McMullan of the Department of Agriculturo to Dale Jonkins
of the Rubbor Division on November 3, 1942: "The quality of
Cryptostogia rubbor is excellent."

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Bureau of Standards report of September 24, 1942 on an analysis of Cryptostegia rubber stated that the "quality was good" and gave considerable

technical information which is on file in the Rubber Division of BEW.

Commenting on the details of this report in a telephone conversation
with L. H. Heller of the Rubber Division on October 14, 1942, Mr. Ernst
Hauser, rubber chemist at MIT said; "The high acid content of samples of
Cryptostegia rubber thus far received indicates the need for a different
type of preparation of the latex. I am convinced from X-Ray defraction
charts just made that the rubber is of extremely high quality."
Mr. L. G. Polhamus in conversation with Mr. W. A. Stanton of the Rubber

Division on November 5, 1942 said: "Because of the similarity of resin
content of Cryptostegia with Castilloa rubber, I think it well to compare these two, and we can do so without the slightest reflection upon
the quality of either. In my opinion Cryptostegia rubber is of equal
quality to high grade Castilloa."
There is apparently little doubt that with a compound formula well suited to
it, Cryptostegia rubber can be classed with some of the best.
Percent of Rubber. While the leaves of Cryptostegia are reported to contain
from 1.69 percent to 6.72 percont rubber, the stems are low in rubber content
.31 percent to .34 percent - and for the whole plant an average rubber content of 1.25 percent is found.
Optimum Conditions for Growth. Cryptostogia is a tropical and subtropical
plant which grows well in regions of high temperature but is injured by exposure to frost. Unlike Guayule, which requires a dry, dormant period in
which to manufacture its rubber, Cryptostegia rubeer content is in direct
ratio to its growth. No important disease or insect damage which attacks
Cryptostogia has been discovered.

Late Development. Cryptostegia was first drawn to the attention of BEW early
in Juno when Mr. Fennell showed the plant to Messrs. Sherover and Jonkins, who

had gone to Haiti to investigate the feasibility of obtaining rubber from
Castilloa seedlings. Mr. Sherover was greatly impressed with the possibili-

ties of Cryptostegia as a rubber producing plant, and upon his return put
Mr. Jenkins on to search all published information on the subject. From this
material, Mr. Jenkins prepared his first memo on the subject. This was subsequently enlarged and mimeographed. As more information was obtained, Nr.
Sherover's onthusiasm increased and on June 22 a mooting was called which was
attended by various reprosentatives of BEW, by Dr. Bressman, and by Dr. Rands

and Mr. Polhamus of the Bureau of Plant Industry. All angles of the proposition were discussed in the light of information then available and the concensus at that time was (1) that the agronomical problems offered no apparent

difficulty, though considerable work would have to be carried out to establish
optimum methods of planting, and (2) that, although the rubber could bo extracted in the laboratory by the solvont method, no commercial method was

known. At this meeting it was decided that intensive investigations on the
problem of extraction be started, and a good collection program be instituted
immediately.

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Following the above, a meeting was held in Mr. Auchter's office at which it
was arranged that the Forest Service would provide funds for the Chemistry and

Engineering Division of the USDA to carry out the extraction investigations.

This work was put in charge of Dr. Eskew at the Philadelphia Regional Labora~
tories, and work there and at the Regional Laboratory in New Orleans was started.
Also immediately following the meeting on June 22, Mr. Levy wrote to Mr.
Polhamus requesting that the BPI undertake the seed collection on BEN's behalf.
This was agreed to, $5,000 was allotted to BPI for the purpose, and Messrs.
Jenkins and White of BEW were assigned to 3PI for a survey of the Cryptostegia
areas. Subsequently, Mr. Gentry of BPI was also assigned to the work with Mr.
White in Mexico, while Mr. Jenkins was sent to Jamaica and the West Indies.

As of the date of this report they have made a rather complete survey of all

areas known to contain wild plants from which seed might be gathered in Mexico
and Central America. In some areas seeds are now ready to be cathered and a
man has been dispatched to Mexico to supervise collection. More mon will be

sent as
purpose.

seeds ripen in various areas. They will employ native labor for the

We have followed every possible lead that gave promise of seeds from sources
other than those already mentioned. A few seeds have already bean obtained

from India and we are making efforts to get all that are obtainable there.
Similarly we are making efforts to get all that are obtainable in Australia any
Madagascar. We have authorized United Fruit to make purchases of what they are
able to in Central America and will probably authorize them to make purchases

in India. when and if new sources are reported, the Division will exert every
influence to obtain information concerning them.

On August 17 the BEW answering a request of the Baruch Committee regarding its

activities in rubber, made the following statement with regard to Cryptostegia.
"The most promising
rubber bearing plant nov in its experimental stage is the
Cryptostegia
vine
Meanwhile the BEW has to decide to increase experi-

mental plantings of Cryptostegia immediately to the extent that seed is available." At that time neither our seed collection efforts nor the extraction
experiments being conducted at Philadelphia offered grounds for unwarranted
optimism. On September 2 the whole Cryptostegia picture took on a much more
favorable appearance with a telephone call from Mr. Thomas Fennall of SHADA in

Haiti, Mr. Fennell stated that he had located enough souds in Haiti for
plantings of up to 100,000 acres within a year. In Haiti, where huge quantities of labor are available, Mr. Fennell urged the application of a unique
of tapping method he had already tried experimentally and which promised yields

at loast 250 pounds of rubber per acre per year. We asked Fonnoll to write

us once at length about the tapping process and to sund someone to Washington at

Mr. to negotiate a contract. Mr. Hill, Fennoll's assistant, and subsequently
Fennell, came to Washington, a satisfactory contract was negotiated, and
a directive sent to Rubber Reserve to executo the contract.

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the same time contacts with prospective contractors who had previously shown
interest in Cryptostegia plantings were revived. On September 2 we renewed
negotiations with Miles Sherover and have now brought them to a point where the

proper authorization of Moxican authorities is being solicited. We continued and
pressed negotiations with Banco Ejidal for faster action on its proposed planting
contract. On September 3 we contacted United Fruit and have progressed to a

point where we are now discussing the details of a contract for substantial plantings in Central America. We have held initial conversations with Standard Fruit
and are awaiting their ability to come to Washington regarding plantings in Honduras.
Extraction. The extraction process worked out by Fennell has limitations because
it is untried on a largo scale and because he estimates it will require about one
man per acre constantly to perform the gathering operations. We have, therefore,
continued our vigorous efforts to evolve a large scale extraction method. Although
he Department of Agriculture, Bureau of Chemistry and Enginooring, seemed to be
proaching the problem from every possible angle, we decided to employ an outside
consultant to evaluate the work, to check its progross, and possibly to delegate
some phases of it to other laboratorios. On September 16 WO discussed this thought
with Dr. Ernst Hauser of M. I. T., and Bradley Doway of Dowoy and Almy, chemists of
Cambridgo, Mass., to try to onlist Dowoy as a consultant, and the M.I.T. laboratories
and Dr. Hauser to pursue specific problems. As a result of this conference, we
were encouraged to believe that Mr. Dowey would undertake tho assignment, but his
appointment to Mr. Jeffers' staff made his acceptance impossiblo. In a lottor
written to our Mr. Robort J. Levy, Assistant Chiof, on Soptombor 29, Mr. Dowey

explained his position, but offered to assist us in finding the right man to sorvo

as a consultant. Mr. Dowey suggosted that oven before a consultant was appointed

ccific problems on both extraction and rubbor be delogated to outside laboratories.
this connection Dr. Ernst Hauser and Dr. B. E. Proctor, both of M.I.T., have boon
interviewed and have indicated their willingness to be of service. Dr. Hausor is
presently thinking about a pilot plant location for use in expanding the work of
the Eastern laboratorios in somo area where larger quantitios of Cryptostogia are
available. We are looking for such a plant location now. Our Dr. Walker is now in
Moxico partially for that purposo.
In

Cryptostegia grandiflora is a perennial. If latex removal is accomplished by

tapping the vinos as contemplated by SHADA in Haiti, rubbor production will be
a year around continuous operation. If latox recovery is accomplished by somo

factory method the vinos will quickly rogain the foliage lost in operations. In
either caso compotent opinion is that the vino once planted will produce over

a

considerable period of years.

The best opinion indicates that in the plantation type of operation Cryptostogia
vines will be ready for some harvesting mothod in approximately 12 months. Some
servers have estimated as low as six months; others as high as 14 months. Twelve
onths is therefore a conservativo average.
Independent Research. Phases of agronomical and extraction work are also being
conducted by outside agencies. Mr. McGavack of the U. S. Rubber Company is doing

of in montioned to give an of

experiments at Yuma Trumbull of Goodrich, at Akron; Mr. Johnson

Goodycar, Costa and Rica. Passaic; Those Mr. are idea of named the extent us

interest in Cryptostogia. Unquostionably there are others. Those koop
formed as to the progress and results of their work.

-6 Recent Opinions on Cryptosteria as our Emergency Source of Rubber.
Baruch plants Report: "Cryptostegia is second in importance among rubbor producing

is littleetc
to be lost " and much might be gained by pursuing
this programThere
vigorously,

Dr. P. A. Wells, Director of Eastern Laboratory, Bureau of Agricultural
Chemistry and Engineering, in conversation with Atherton Lee, BEW Agricultural Advisor, on September 28, 1942: "Any planting program should not be
delayed
for fear
of obtained."
inability to extract the rubber. One way or another
the methods
will be
Charles S. Dolley, Biologist and Chemical Engineer to Bernard Baruch, wrote
on August 21, 1942: "I continued independent attempts to grow it on a large
scale in Mexico and finally went to the Bahamas where I grew it successfully
and
value as the quickest growing plant producing
high demonstrated
grade rubber its great
There is no need of colayful experiments."
Thomas A. Fennell of SHADA wrote to Robert J. Levy, Rubber Division, BEW,
on September 16, 1942: "Cryptostegia offers an excellent chance to produce

good rubber fast with very little steel, skilled labor, or other strategic

materials. Mr. Sorenson (Department of Agriculture) estimates the cost of
production of rubber by tapping the stems of Cryptostegia would not be in
excess of 30 cents to 40 cents per pound.'

1942: Dr. John McGavack of U.S. Rubber Company wrote to Mr. Levy on October 1,

"I am deeply sympathetic with any movement to get larger areas of
Cryptostegia planted, whether they be United Fruit, whothor they be Haiti's
schome, or whother they be other places. Thank you very much for your help."

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A REPORT AND RECOMBENDATIONS TO THE BOARD OF
ECONOMIC WARFARE SUBMITTED BY THE STAFF OF
THE BOARD AND APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING
REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER AGENCIES REPRESENTED ON THE SUB-COMMITTEE ON SWEDEN

T. K. Finletter, Department of State

SECRET

Captain W. D. Puleston, Navy Department
J. Coppock, War Production Board

Mr. H. H. Neff, representing the War Depart-

ment, dissented.

November 5, 1942

At the meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare on May 21, a subcommittee on Sweden was appointed to obtain and review information which

would provide the basis for a unified policy to be followed by the agencies of the United States' Government. On the basis of the information
made available, particularly through an intensive investigation in
London by Mr. William T. Stone, Assistant Director of the Board of
Economic Warfare, the following policy conclusions and recommendations

are made:

1. Policy Conclusions. In the final analysis it is a matter of

opinion whether a complete stoppage of trade with Sweden by
the United Nations and the countries of this hemisphere would

result in a decrease of Swedish aid to the enemy. In the

view of the British Government, however, such a decrease
would probably not take place and increased Swedish aid to

the enemy is more likely to follow.

Such a stoppage of trade, besides shutting off certain
important material sent from Sweden to the United Nations,
might adversely affect the determination and the ability of
the Swedes to resist Axis aggression. This consideration

must be judged in the light of the possible military value

to the United Nations of a strengthened Swedish army and the

fact that a substantial part of the productive capacity of

Sweden is absorbed in its armament program.

A complete and permanent cessation of trade would make

it difficult for the United Nations to bargain with Sweden

in order to obtain certain military and economic concessions

important to our interests.
Trade relations with Swoden, however, are not now satisfactory.
Certain violations of the Anglo-Swedish War Trade Agreement appear to have taken, and to be taking, place:

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Exports to the enemy of some important stratogic
commodities have substantially increased above the
"normal" 1938 level of exports to Germany despite
the prohibitions which seem to be stipulated in
the Agreement; and it does not appear that in fact

enemy-occupied Scandinavian countrios havo been

strictly treated as belligerent territory.

Cortain exceptions which have been and are being permitted

in the War Trade Agreement itself, as well as in its application, are benefitting the enemy:

Imported commodities are permitted export to the
enomy as components of manufactured goods. In some

cases without adequate control those imported

commodities are exported in their original form
through special bartor deals or processing and reimport arrangements made with the enemy. Moreover,

the prohibitions on the export of commoditios do not
extend to all goods which Sweden obtains through the
blockade, nor do they include certain Swedish commodities similar in character to these imports.
Although delivorios from the Axis have with increasing
frequency fallen far short of the promised amounts, Swedish
exports to the enomy are maintained at a high level, not
only by artificial increases in Gorman prices but also by

means of large governmental credits which in 1942 may be

estimated at 300 million kronen. This is about one-fourth
of
the total value of Swedish exports (goods and shipping
services) to the enemy.
The Swodish Government has also permitted and continues

to countenance certain practices which directly assist the
enerry in the conduct of its military operations:
Soon after the opening of hostilities betwoon Russia
and Germany, Swoden capitulated to strong pressure

and permitted a fully-armed Gorman division to cross
Swedish territory to Finland. This concession has
not sinco been repeated, but German troops on leave
and war materials continue to pass across Swoden to
Norway and Finland. In 1941, 250,000 Gorman

soldiors travollod in each direction and 250,000
tons of war materials were carriod through Swoden

to the Axis' northern fronts. In 1942, this

traffic has increased considerably and, in addition,

Swodish torritorial waters have boon used for enomy

military traffic escorted by Swedish naval vessels.
Swedish railways are also utilized for movement of
Gorman troops between southern and northern Norway
and bctween Norway and Finland.

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2.

Policy Recommendations. The present sorious situation with
regard to trade relations betwoon the United Nations and
Swodon should be corrected by a more positivo and drastic
policy than has heretofore been adopted by this Government;
for example, by suppression or diminution of imports into
Swoden. However, in the process of bargaining, but only on
condition that substantial objectivos can be immodiately
achieved thereby, it may be advisable to offer the Swodes
certain concessions such as "basic rations" of some imported goods and the assurance of special supplies including petroleum needed for the Swedish armed forces.
It is, therefore, recommended that this Government
pursue by negotiation a policy immediately designed to

attain the following principal objectives:

a. A strict enforcement of the War Trade Agreement and modifications thereof where necessary,

which would put an end to the violations and
exceptions mentioned above. Modifications
should include the reduction of certain blockade
quotas for Swedish overseas imports which are

excessive, and elimination where practicable

of commodities imported from overseas which
enter into Swedish production for the enemy.

b. An increase in the flow of strategic materials

from Sweden to the United Nations, and coopera-

tion by the Swedes in the matter of substantial
purchases by the United Nations for preclusive
purposes as well as for supply.

C. Assistance by the Swedes in effecting transport
by sea and air for materials from Sweden to the
United Nations.

d. Satisfactory arrangements for the use by the
United Nations not only of Swedish shipping at
present outside the Baltic but also for the
vessels built or being built by Sweden.
e. Elimination or substantial reduction of Swedish
Government credits, direct or indirect, to
enomy countries.

f. Access to full information on Swodish exports to
and imports from enemy torritory.

g. The conclusion of negotiations satisfactory to the
Department of State, whoreby the Swedish Govern-

ment shall agree to equalize its export trade with

the other American republics in such manner that,
if Sweden limits its export trade to any American
republic or republics, Swedish exports to other
American republics to which exports are not so
limited shall be correspondingly reduced.

h. The conclusion of negotiations satisfactory to the
War Shipping Administration, for the chartering by

the War Shipping Administration of Twenty-one Swedish
vessels now in this hemisphere.

i. A substantial reduction, the maximum attainable,
in the number of enemy troops on leave now permitted

to pass through Swedish territory, and a stipulation
that
no troops be permitted to travel through Sweden
to
Finland.
j. A substantial reduction, the maximum attainable,

in the military traffic of materials now permitted

to pass through Swedish territory, and a stipulation

that no military traffic or materials be permitted

through Sweden to Finland.

k. A substantial reduction, the maximum attainable,
or elimination of German military traffic in
Swedish territorial waters and of the use of Swedish
convoys by the enemy.

1. A reduction in the iron ore exports from Sweden
to enemy territory from the current figuro of
about nine and a half million tons annually to
normal pre-war exports to Germany.

The most important objective, namely, a substantial reduc-

tion in the shipments of iron ore from Sweden to territory

to the extent desired direct

military cannot be A
action.
attained
except
through
enemy
decision
in this
matter
is beyond
the scope
of the authority of the staff of the Board and the Sub-Committee.

must be emphasized that the ore
important
single in

to Germany by any nation outside of its
use of military action to cut down Swedish exports
of
iron
ore
is
not
precluded by the terms of the War Trade
Agreement.
material, borders. Nevertheless, is the most The made it contribution, traffic terms of of pre-war raw iron

It is accordingly recommended that the Board of Economic

Warfare adopt a resolution calling for the trade
including the shipment of

commitments, secret or and immediate

concessions with in exchange Sweden, for petroleum otherwise, continuance products of

of by the Swedish Government, to meet the objectives

this Government set forth in sub-paragraphs A - L of these

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Recommendations, and that this policy be carried out in consultation with the interested agencies by the Board of
Economic Warfare in collaboration with the Department of
State.*

*The following momorandum interpreting -the above document was sont
on October 31, 1942 to the Chairman of the Sub-Committee on Sweden
by Captain W. D. Puleston representing the Navy Department on said
Committee:

1. In view of the froquent use of the words, "substantial,"
"satisfactory," "substantial reduction," "negotiations satisfactory,"

which are capable of various interpretations, I wish to make plain
my understanding of those recommendations.

2. Such an understanding is particularly necessary for as
the report was being written a dispatch from the American Embassy
in London was received which recommended that a full cargo of
miscellaneous petroleum products, somo of them very important from

a strategic viewpoint, be provided at once for the Swedish stoamer
SVEADROTT. In view of Sweden's confessed inability to fulfill her
previous engagements (which fact was brought out more than once

during the sub-committee's sessions), I am convinced that no further
shipments of petroloum or potroleum products should be made to
Sweden until Sweden has actually complied with the objectives out-

lined in sub-paragraphs (a) to (1).

3. I accordingly recommend that the American nogotiators be
instructed that no further petroleum products be given to Swoden
prior to April 1, 1943. If by March 1, 1943, Swoden has substantially complied with the objoctivos outlined in sub-paragraphs (a)
to (1), arrangements could be mado to furnish the first quarter's
allotmont of potroleum products to Sweden by April 1, 1942.

4. I wish to emphasize that the use of military, naval or

air forces to cut down the Swodish exports are not procluded by
any of these recommondations.

5. I also recommend that betwoon now and March 1, 1943 quiot
offorts be made by the United Nations to reduco the present increasing flow of grains, moats and odible oils from South America (mainly
Argentina) to Sweden via the Gothenberg route. In my opinion, the
objectivos in sub-paragraphs (a) to (1) are temporary. They should

be extended as soon as the political, military and naval factors
permit. The United Nations should not be content with anything loss
then the complete supression of Swodish trado with Germany.

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BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE

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TRADE POLICY TOWARD SWEDEN

A Summary of the Essential Facts
on Sweden's Relations with the
Enemy and with the Area outside
the Blockade

Revised Version
November 3, 1942

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CONTENTS
Page

Trade Policy toward Sweden:

1-5

A Summary of the Essential Facts on
Sweden's Relations with the Enemy and
with the Area outside the Blockade
Annexes

A. Estimate of Sweden's Trade Balance, 1936, 1938

6

and 1940-42 (Table)

B. Distribution of Sweden's Trade within the

7

Blockade Area, 1936, 1938, and 1940-42
(Table)

C. The Anglo-Swodish War Trade Agreement

8-10

D. Exports from Sweden to Argentina and other
South American Republics during the First
Seven Months of 1942 (Table)

11

E. List of Materials Safely Shipped from Sweden
to the United Kingdom from Jan. 1, 1941

12

through June, 1942 (Table)

F. Materials Imported by the United Kingdom by
Air from Sweden during the Month of August

13

1942 (Table)

G. Swedish Exports to Enemy Destinations, First
Six Months of 1942 (Table)
H. Principal Swedish Exports to Germany and Oc-

14-15

16-18

cupied Europe, 1938 as Compared with 1941 and

the First Six Months of 1942 (Table)

I. Swedish National Income Compared with Goods and
Services Furnished the Enemy and Expenditures

for National Defense, 1941 (Table)

19

Page

J. Blockade Quotas and Principal Commodities Imported through the Blockade by Sweden during
the First Six Months of 1942 (Table)

20-21

K. Swedish Imports from Enemy Territory
Lathronad

L. Swedish Credit Contributions to the Axis
M. Swedish Petroleum Position

treatment

edd

22-23

to

prolister

24-25
26-28

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TRADE POLICY TOWARD SWEDEN

A Summary of the Essential Facts on
Sweden's Relations with the Enemy and with the
Area Outside the Blockade*

I. Sweden's Economic Position

Sweden is under a double blockade. In the Atlantic, AngloAmerican supremacy controls access to overseas sources of supply
while German supremacy determines her ability to trade with continental Europe. Because of her geographic position, Sweden lios
almost entirely within Germany's economic orbit: her dependence
upon continental sources for coal and other raw materials has made

it possiblo for the Axis to obtain about 90 per cent of Sweden's
curront exports while supplying only about two-thirds of her
imports.

However, Swodon has not become a complete economic province

of the enemy. Over 22 por cont of Swedish national income is

spont on armament production and tho maintonance of armed forces.
According to the American Legation at Stockholm, the Swodish
Government and people continuo to uso the bargaining power at

their disposal to rosist Axis oconomic pressure.

II. Rolations with the Enomy
1, Trade

a. The principal economic contribution made by Swoden to

the Axis is the oxport of high grado iron oro (9.5
million tons in 1941), wood products (particularly pulp

wood and rayon pulp), machinory, ball boarings and othor
specialty manufactures of tho motallurgical industry,
and food to Finland.

b. About 12 por cent of the total Swodish national incomo
is comprisod of exports of goods and sorvicos to onomy
torritory. Although Swodish exports to onomy torritory
appoar to bo loss (value adjusted) than they wore to

*This summary is mado with tho following qualification: Although
the United States and British Governments have sought to obtain
completo trado information, preciso data are not yot availablo on
certain questions. The Swodish Government, however, has recontly

supplied moro dotailed statistics and has givon assurance of its
willingness to communicate fullor documentation.

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the same area before the war, her exports of the particu-

lar commodities most urgently needed by the enemy far
exceed pre-war shipments to Germany. This is particularly
true for rayon pulp and pulp wood which have increased
many times over while the export of other products less

useful to the enemy has decreased significantly. Similarly, the occupied countries import much less from Swedon
than they did before the war.

O. If exports of Swedish iron ore and wood products particularly could be eliminated, the enemy's war effort would

be severely injured. In terms of iron content, the high

grade Swedish ore delivered in 1941 amounted to 18 per

cont of the total available to Germany, but actually the
Swedish oro is even more important than this ratio indicates: the loss of the Swedish supply would require the
mining and transport additionally of 20 million tons of
low grade German and French ore, of 6 million tons of
coal and 4 million tons of coke. Loss of the Swedish wood
products would materially reduce the alroady restricted
supply of textiles in Axis Europe and would tend further
to reduce agricultural production (by tho loss of paper
binding twine) and mining output (by the loss of pit
props).
2. Crodits
Sinco Swoden's imports from the enemy area are doclining and

aro currently almost ono-third loss in valuo (adjusted) than

were exports to Axis Europo and because Swodish shipping sor-

vicos further incroaso tho Axis indebtodness, this unbalanced

trado is enabled to continuo only by virtuo of largo credits

granted by the Swodish Government. It is ostimated that tho
crodits during 1942 to Gormany and Finland will amount to at

loast 300 million kronor, so that about one-fourth of the

Swodish oxports of goods and sorvices to the onomy is financod

through Swodish crodits. Virtually all exports to Finland
aro crodit transactions, whothor mado directly or through un-

componsated Swodish exports to Donmark which onablo tho lattor

country to provido goods for Finland. In addition, thoro are
forcod crodits to the onomy arising out of the artificial inflation of Gorman export pricos. To the extont
in Gorman pricos oxcoods that in Swodish pricos,
virtually
boon a crodit in dif-

actual amount cannot bo oxactitudo

on foronco. flation thoro the has basis factor The of oqual computed amount with that to the tho in-

tho information now availablo, but addi-

of about 200 million kronor

If this concoaled crodit tho

about 40 por cont of Swedish of

and diroct prico tional sorvices difforential. crodit, crodit to may exports bo is addod duo an to goods to this

by the the onomy may bo ostimated to bo uncomponsated
onomy's exports to Swodon. These credits, regarded by

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the British Ministry of Economic Warfare as unneutral, not only
relieve Germany of the need to carry the full burden of export,
but also tend to help Finland remain in the war.

3. Military
Although the Swedish Government states that it has resisted
German efforts to compromise her neutrality, certain concessions made to the enemy have directly assisted the Axis in

the conduct of the war. A definite breach of Swedish neutral-

ity was permitted in July, 1941, when a fully equipped German
division was allowed to cross Sweden from Norway to Finland.
This breach has not been repeated, but the Swedish Government
continues to permit German troops and materials to pass across
Sweden to and from Norway and Finland, between southern and
northern Norway and between Norway and Finland. The troops,

presumably on leave, cross in sealed cars. In 1941, 250,000
journeys in each direction were made across Swedish territory
and 250,000 tons of war materials were carried in transit
through Sweden to Norway and Finland. In 1942, this traffic
has apparently increased and, in addition, Swedish territorial waters have been used for enemy military traffic con-

voyed by Swedish naval vessels.

4. Shipping
Swedish shipping within the Baltic (more than half of her
total merchant marine) is at the disposal of the enemy and

plays an important role, particularly in carrying iron ore

to Axis Europe. The Swodish Government has refused to force

these ships into Axis service, but permits them to be charterod by the enomy if a satisfactory rate can be agreed upon
between the owner and the German Government.

III. Relations with the United Nations
1. Trade
a. The Anglo-Swodish War Trade Agreement, signod on Docombor

7, 1939, and modified by a supplomontary protocol of
Decombor, 1941, permits Swodon to import commoditios from

areas outsido of the blockado in quantitios ostablishod

by quotas which are basod gonorally on the amount of goods
imported by Swodon in 1938. In oxchango for thoso import

facilitios, Swodon has agrood to cortain prohibitions and
limitations on hor exports which are intondod to provont
the rooxport of importod commoditios and, boyond the 1938

lovol, of indigonous products. Both the import quotas
and rostrictions on exports are subjoct to chango and roconsidoration at any timo. The import quotas roprosont

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substantial proportions of Sweden's normal consumption of

food stuffs and industrial materials, and in the case of

petroleum provide the total amount needed for maintenance

of the military forces and combat reserves. Although
many of the quotas have not been filled, the imports of
cotton, wool, hides, vegetable oils, fodder, cereals and
colonial produce are not only among the scarcest goods
in Europe today but undoubtedly enable Sweden to main-

tain its economy. If they were cut off, serious economic repercussions would be felt in all sectors of Swedish production.

b. During the first six months of 1942, Swoden imported from
outside the blockade area goods valued at about 230 million
kronen ($57,000,000), whereas she exported to areas outside the blockade goods valued at 110 million kronen
($27,000,000). Sweden's exports through the blockade are
subject to German permission in each case and are confined
at the present time to Argentina and Chile because of a
prohibition imposed by the enomy on Swedish exports to the
United Nations. However, through blockado-running and the
air service between Stockholm and Scotland, the United
Kingdom has received during the eightoon months procoding
July 1942 certain metals and manufacturos which are re-

garded by the British Government as being of great importance to their war offort. Although those imports may
not be irreplaceable, and their significance appears to

have been somewhat exaggeratod, they consist mainly of

parts for Swedish machinery in Britain which could only
with difficulty be manufactured elsowhere. Exports per-

mitted by Gormany from Swedon to Agrontina and Chilo consist mainly of wood pulp, paper and iron and stool manufactures.

C. The blockado quotas appear in sovoral instances to pormit
excessivo imports of cortain commoditios and in somo casos
directly onable Swodon to export goods to tho onomy. Howovor, actual imports through tho blockado havo boon limited
both by the difficulty Swodon has found in procuring commoditios and also by the fact that the Gothonburg traffic
(pormittod by the Unitod Nations and tho Axis) is limited
to fivo ships a month in oach direction and ono tankor
oach quartor.

d. In gonoral, although thoro are cortain doficioncios in the
list of prohibitod exports, goods imported from outsido

the blockado may not bo oxportod to the onomy. Tho potroloum products pormittod to pass through the blockado to

Swodon may only bo used by tho Swodish armod forcos. Thoro
aro, novortholoss, goods imported through the blockado

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which do in fact contribute to the enemy's war effort
indirectly as components of manufactured goods or as sup-

plies used to maintain the health and efficiency of the

Swedish working population. Moreover, despite the apparent stipulation of the War Trade Agreement, exports to
the enemy of indigenous commodities like iron ore and wool
products have increased above the level of 1938 exports
to Germany.

2. Shipping
Sweden contributes to the United Nations a sizeable fleet of
merchant vessels which are, directly or indirectly, performing services for the United Nations. Some 400,000 tons of
Swedish shipping outside the Baltic are either on charter to
the United Nations or subject to our shipping directives, and
negotiations are now under way to bring an additional 94,000
tons of shipping outside the Baltic undor the direct control
of the United Nations.

3. Military
Although the military authorities of the Unitod States have

not yet indicated whether the maintenance or strongthening
of the Swedish armed forces is of strategic importance, the
British Government appears to rogard the Swodish army and

navy as of positivo valuo to the United Nations eithor as a
deterrent to furthor Axis aggression in the Scandinavian
region or as a defensivo force which could, if engaged in

battle, exact a heavy toll.

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ANNEX A

ESTIMATE OF SWEDEN'S TRADE BALANCE, 1936, 1938, AND 1940-42

(in millions of kronor)
1936

1938

1940-41*

1941-42*

Adjusted**

Adjusted**

A. Trade Outside the Blockedc Area
a. Imports through the Blockado
b. Exports through the Blockado

C. Surplus of Imports (f) or Exports (-)

B. Trade Inside the Blockado Area
a. Imports from Enony Territory
b. Exports to Enemy Territory

755

1065

330

220

310

200

750

910

130

85

155

80

75

/155

/200

/145

/155

/120

880

1015

600

765

930

1345
1015

685

1250
1145

425
600

/85

+330

-85

/105

-175

C. Surplus of Imports (f) or Exports (-) /115

6

C. Total Trade Balance

a. Imports
b. Exports

1635
1515

C. Surplus of Imports (+) or Exports (-) 120

2080
1840

1675

820

1145

770

1560
1300

625
680

/240

/530

/50

/260

-55

*May 1 to April 30

*The figures for 1940-41 and 1941-42 are given in their adjusted form because of the radical price changes
which heve taken place during the war. In 1941 Swoden had to DAY about 140 nor cont more for her imported
goods and obtained only 60 per cont more for her exports than in 1936. This difference was duc not solely
to German bergaining strength but also to the fact that import values include freights whereas exports

do not. Beltic freight rates increased from an index of 100 in 1939 to 340 in 1941. In the caso of trade
outside the blockadc area relatively slight adjustments have been made in import values.

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ANNEX B

DISTRIBUTION OF SWEDEN'S TRADE WITHIN THE BLOCKADE AREA

1936, 1938 AND 1940-42

(in millions of kronor)
1936

Total Imports from Enemy Territory
Germany (including Austria)
Scandinavian countries
Italy
West European countries]/
South European countries2
Hungary
Others

Total Exports to Enemy Territory
Germany (including Austria)
Scandinavian Countries

Italy
West European countriesl
South European countries2
Hungary
Others

1

1938

1940-41
1.345

1941-42
1,250

830

1,015

370

455

830

805

140

160

150

130

10

30

135

110

205

225

20
7

155

130

55

50

45

50

15

20

115

85

1,015

1,145

765

930

245

335

530

535

240

290

265

315

20

40

75

90

175

200

55

85

10

10

65

10

15

70

95

20
2

63 )

The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, France, Portugal, and
Spain.

2

Yugoslavia, Rumania, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey, and Albania.

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155

ANNEX C

THE ANGLO-SWEDISH WAR TRADE AGREEMENT

The Anglo-Swedish War Trade Agreement, signed on December 7,

1939, has not only been modified since that time by a supplementary
protocol of December 1941 but also by agreements made in the Joint
Standing Commission established under the agreement. Events, too,
have made their mark on the Agreement: after the occupation by Germany of Norway and Denmark, permission was obtained from the British
Government for a limited shipping, service to the port of Gothenburg

of five ships and one tanker a quarter in each direction. Also, a

quota system was established for Swedish imports from overseas, these
quotas being based generally on the quantity of goods imported by

Sweden in 1938.

At present, therefore, the War Trade Agreement consists es-

sentially of the following series of regulations:

A. Import quotas.
B. A list of goods prohibited export to the enemy.
C. A list of imported goods permitted export to the enemy
as components of manufactures if less than 12 per cent
of the value of the finished manufacture.
D. A list of other goods which may be exported to the
enemy in "normal" 1938 quantities.

These prohibitions and restrictions, however, may in some cases
be set aside (according to the Protocol of December 1941) in order
to permit Sweden to have goods processed in enemy territory and returned, these arrangements requiring approval in each case by the
Joint Standing Commission. Also, the Joint Standing Commission has

set aside these prohibitions and restrictions in certain cases where
the Swedish Government desires to export to the enemy in exchange
for war materials imported from the enemy.

Examination of the War Trade Agreement and the administrative

practice thereunder leads not only to the conclusion that the above
prohibitions leave loopholes permitting Sweden to contribute to the
enemy's war effort with the aid of imported materials but also that
the text of the agreement apparently has been interpreted in some
cases so as to permit greator=than-normal exports to the enemy.

A. Several of the existing import quotas appear to be excessivo in
view of presont information on Swedish requirements. The following
major changos soom to bo required:

9

Commodity

(Metric tons unless otherwise stated)
Present British

Rice and rice groats

Maize and maize meal

Wheat, rye and their flours
Dried fruits
Sugar

Vegetable, animal and fish

oils - edible only -

Hides skins and leather

Artificial textile fibres

Quarterly Quota
4,000
33,000
22,500
3,750
5,000

Recommended
Quota

3,000
15,000
10,000

500 -1,500
2,000

14,000
3,000

wyarns and piece goods-

Casein

5,000
1,500

nil
nil

186
175

Silver

nil

6

B The list of prohibited exports does not include all goods im-

ported from overseas or all Swedish manufactures which are made

in significant part from, are derived directly from, or are

similar to goods imported from overseas. The principal omissions

in this list of prohibited exports seem to be as follows:
Bread and other food prepara-

tions
Roasted coffee

Textile fibres and manufactures,

including artificial fibres

and manufactures

Animal hair

Bristles and brush-making fibre,
brushes, etc.

Eggs

Cheese
Honey

Fish and marine oil
Cellulose fodder
Iodine and iodidos (medical)
Borax

Boric acid

Firearms and guns

Paints, varnishes, etc., and
paint components

Tire Fabric
Insulated cable and wire
Fishing nets
Colophony

Tin oxide

Plywood

Chemicals for photography

Fertilizers

Tar oils

Magnesite

Lead alloys and ore
Spark plugs

Antimony, alloys and ore

Mica and manufactures

Tin plate and tin plate scrap
Silver metal, alloys and scrap
Textitle machinery and parts, etc. Tartaric acid and lees

Automotive vehicles--parts and ac- Starches
cessories
Gum arabic, kamar, kauri, etc.

Explosives

Dextrine

Soap

Furs and fur skins

Ammunition, projectiles and fuses

Talc

Asbestos and manufactures

Graphite and graphito products

Detonators

Canned goods

Fruit juices

Abrasives and manufactures

156
10

C. Blockade quotas for imported materials (A) which are permitted
export to the enemy as components of manufactures up to 12 per
cent of the total value of the manufacture or (B) which are employed in the manufacturing processes of Swedish products permitted export to the enemy, should be reconsidered and the import

of these materials so controlled as to limit them as far as practicable to Swedish domestic consumption. The principal quotas

falling within these categories are as follows:
Grass and field seeds

Tung and oiticica oils

Castor and rapeseed oils
Glycering

Oleic and other fatty acids

Carnauba and other waxes

Hides, skins and leather
Borax and boric acid
Tartaric acid and wine lees

Rubber and manufactures
Wool and manufactures

Bristles and brush-making
fibres
Cotton raw, manufactures
and waste
Copper
Lead

Plasticisers

Abrasives and manufactures
Asbestos and manufactures
Graphite and manufactures

Solvent

Industrial fibres (hemp,

Acetone

Casein

Carbon black

jute, sisal, ramie, etc.)
and their manufactures

Paints, varnish and shellac

Toluol
Petrolatum

etc.)
Textile machinery

Paraffin wax
Gum kopal, kauri, domar

Tar oils (benzol, phenol, cresol,

D. Exports limited to the 1938 level have not in the case of several
of the most important commodities in fact been restricted to
1938 exports from Sweden to Germany. This loophole may perhaps
be due to an interpretation of the War Trade Agreement made by

the Swedes which tends to benefit the enemy. The principal commodities which appear to be allowed export in excess of the 1938
level of exports to Germany are:
Iron ore
Lumber

Plywood
Paper

Rayon pulp

Chemical pulpwood

Both the processing arrangements and the barter arrangements permitting export of otherwise prohibited commodities to the enemy

for return or exchange may benefit the enemy unless full information is given and the approval of the United States and British
Governments is obtained. Moreover, unless a time limit is placed
upon the transaction abuses may occur. In fact, because of lack

of such information and of the time limit, it is virtually impossible to control such transactions.

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11

ANNEX D

EXPORTS FROM SWEDEN TO ARGENTINA AND OTHER SOUTH AMERICAN
REPUBLICS DURING THE FIRST SEVEN MONTHS OF
1942a

(quantities in metric tons)

Newsprint and newspaper
Other paper and cardboard
Timber and manufactures

Iron and Steel
Ball bearings
Other iron and steel manufactures
Electrical machinery and apparatus
Other machinery

Auto and truck parts
Chemicals
Chalk

Accumulators

Insulating sheets

Furskins

Glassware

Wines and spirits
Other goods

a

Source: Ministry of Economic Warfare

To Argentina

55,500
8,300
24,300
1,370

21,600
8,250
22,400

810

400

790

1.3

3,000

1.3

1,950

725

500

240

150

14

12

880

460

150
50

48

120

120
2

2

-

Woodpulp

Total

-

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1

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1

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158
12

ANNEX E

LIST OF MATERIALS SAFELY SHIPPED (a)
FROM SWEDEN TO THE UNITED KINGDOM (b)
FROM JANUARY 1, 1941, THROUGH JUNE 1942

Tubes and Solids for ball bearings

7,166 tons

Finished ball bearings

1,220 n

Special rods and wire in carbon, stainless and high
speed qualities

2,249 If
874

Machinery

222

"

Cold Rolled strip

1,981

Special quality ingots and billets

10,267
2,661

Bar iron

if

Charcoal pig iron

120 If

Spare parts for marine engines

1,456 If
346

Sponge iron

28,562 Tons

( (quantity
(

Total

(value

ft

Ferrochrome

$1,735,000

(a) In addition the following imports from Sweden were made by other

British territories:

Australia (to March 1942)
Machinery

& 53,000

Metals and
manufactures

Scientific

instruments

Canada (to April 1942
Bearings

11,000
3,500
395,000

Cream separaters 111,000

The above countries were the only recipients of Swedish imports
in 1942: in 1941, the Union of South Africa and New Zealand obtained goods valued at 106,000 pounds and 21,500 pounds respec-

tively. During the first six months of 1942, the United States

received from Sweden through the blockade only 12 tons of ma-

chinery and 1 ton of furs.
(b) Source: Ministry of Economic Warfare

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159
13

ANNEX F

MATERIALS IMPORTED BY THE UNITED KINGDOM BY AIR FROM SWEDEN
DURING THE MONTH OF AUGUST 1942*

Material

Drilling Tools
Spare Parts for Oil Engines
-do-

Antimagnetic Iron

Milcrometers

Spring Washers
Micrometers
-doValves

Gross Weight
Kilos

15.-2.23
.81

7.40

85.-0.30

45,-37.--

Vavles

0.61
59.90
54.70
4.80

Spring Steel
Parts for Relays

23.-14.--

Grinders

Parts for Chipping Hammers

-do-

15.50

Striking Mechanism
Spare parts

348.--

Taps

94.50
170.30

Springs for Drill 6hucks
Magnet Steel Taps

Spring Steel

Anvils

Gudgeon Pin Brgs. (Haifa)
Spare Parts
-doTools

7.57
0.60

364.-0.45
32.00
198.695
130.75
234.70

118.50

Taps
Taps

Micrometers

Spring Steel
-do-

Parts for Mikrokators

25.-12.-89.80

475.-0.175

2,666.

*It should be noted that the summer months are regarded as

unfavorable for air traffic in this region, and that therefore these shipments do not fully reflect the magnitude of
the imports received.

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160
14

ANNEX G

KNOWN SWEDISH EXPORTS TO ENEMY DESTINATION

FIRST SIX MONTHS, 1942

(All figures in metric tons)
A. Commodities Imported Through the Blockade
or Similar Thereto
Commodities

Quantities Exported to Enemy Destinations, Jan-June 1942

Cereals and preparations (1)
Potatoos and root crops
Sugars and syrups (2)
Food preparations
Fish

Meat and animals for meat (3)
Fodder

Seeds for Sowing

Fats and oils

Wines and liquors

Textile materials
Copper metal, alloys and scrap
Lead metal and scrap

Tin metal, alloys and scrap

Artificial grinding wheels
Abrasive paper

Explosives and matches (4)
Gums and resins

Rubber and manufactures (5)

13,075*
4,552
1,200
1,301
1,754

1,085*
196

383*
103
43

615

715**
237**
175

47
88

1,031
654

10.5
14

Boots and shoes

(1) About 9,998 tons represent exchanges made with the enemy and

approved by the British. The remainder, an apparent violation
of the Agreement is unexplained.

(2) Exported to Norway in exchange for fish, fish oil, etc.
(3) Includes 2,100 head of horses exported to Germany. Since this
was in excess of normal trade, the British protested but no
adequate explanation has been received.

(4) Of this amount, 450 tons were matches, 250 tons powder to
Switzerland and 300 tons powder to Finland.
(5) In an oral explanation to the American attache at Stockholm, rubber

the Swedish Foreign Office-said that this was "largely
belting on an exchange basis with Denmark.'

15

B. Commodities Not Imported Through the Blockade
or Similar Thereto
Commodities

Quantities Exported to Enemy Destinations, Jan-June 1942

Iron ore
Wood and manufactures (6)

Pulp, paper, etc.
Iron and steel, and manufactures (7)
Coal tar (8)
Stone and mineral manufactures
Pottery and glass
Chrome ore and ferrochrome

2,761,537 4
436,302
437,181
99,053
5,108
9,187
9,423
533

Manganese ore and ferromanganese
Molybdenum and ferromolybdenum

Ferrosilicon

85

19.5

2,477

Wolfram

10

Other metals and manufactures

865**

Railway cars and material

371

Automobiles and trucks

913

Instruments, etc.

191

Tanning materials
Chemicals and pharmaceutical products
Machinery

Electrical machinery and appliances

1,879
11,677
15,037

2,776

(6) Including an unexplained and unauthorized shipment of 18 tons
of cork.

(7) Including 21,591 tons of charcoal pig iron against promised
German exports of 77,000 tons of coke pig iron.

(8) Allegedly, partly made from German coal and partly coal tar
sent to Norway to make impregnated sacks for caclium nitrate
and electrodes imported by Sweden.

+

Complete statistics have not been given by the Swedish Govern-

ment. It should also be noted that statistics for the first
half of the year, especially in the caso of iron ore, represent
a seasonal low because of Baltic shipping conditions.

Shipments permitted, partially or ontirely, by the British

Government as exceptions to the list of prohibited exports,
by virtuo of the Protocol of December 1941 or other special
arrangoments but not including the Processing Program.

Shipmonts partially or entirely permitted by the British Governmont under the Processing Program or as a Swedish exchange
against war materials from Gormany.

161
16

ANNEX H

PRINCIPAL SWEDISH EXPORTS TO GERMANY
AND OCCUPIED EUROPE, 1938 AS COMPARED WITH

1941 AND THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 1942

NOTE

The accompanying table dealing with Swedish exports
to Germany and German-Occupied Europe is obviously

incomplete, but most of the significant Swedish
exports to the enemy are included, with the excep=
tion of ball bearings and machinery. Since 1939,
Sweden has released only fragmentary trade statistics.
The table has been constructed from the figures available from Sweden and from information derived from
consular dispatches and Swedish technical publications.

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EUROPE: 1938 AS COMPARED WITH 1941 AND THE FIRST SIX MONTHS
OF 1942

1938

COMMODITY

Iron ore
Lumber (thousands

of board feet)

Rayon pulp
Chemical pulpwood

(cubic meters)

Exports

Exports
to Germany
proper

to Germany
prober

Ferro-chrome
Copper

Ferro-siliconmanganese
Tin

100,188
12,795

514,800
100,000

850,800
285,000

1,085

1,000,000

N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.

2,700
825

100,000 (a)
120,000

4,500 (b)

Exports to
Germany

proper

2,747,957

310,201 (f)
93,332 (f)
N.R.
N.R.

127,000 (g)
N.R.

Exports to
Germany and

Occuried Europe

2,747,957 (h)
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
17

14,888
17,537
12,598

2,339 (c)
2,650
5,897
749

Chrome ore
Lead

243

N.R. Not reported

Occuried Europe
9,549,044

(d)
(e)

Ferro manganese

Gormany and

N.R.

Unmanufactured and
semi-manufactured

Iron and Steel
Charcoal pig iron
Pyrites
Ferro-silicon

Exports to

8,945,088

Pit props (cubic meters) 68,000
Paper
Plywood

1942 (6 months)

1941

-

N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.

38,000
33,000
25,735
11,406
3,649
2,986

N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.

945

-

479

172

172

203
239
275

47

.47

-

237

20,000 (b)
20,000 (g)
-

77,000 (b)
N.R.
-

1,870

2,459

450

486

693

715

-

10,310

10

a/ 1940, figures for 1941 not available
b Estimate
c/ In 1938 total exports to all destinations were only 10,870 including about 4,000 tons to Great Britain
d Total exports of unprocessed tin were 9.7 tons, none to Germany

167

e/ No exports to any destination in 1938
f/ Sales in 1942 on six months basis
g/

Six months estimated on the basis of nine months exports

h/ The first six months represent the seasonal low. Exports are being maintained at the 1941 level.

163
19

ANNEX I
SWEDISH NATIONAL INCOME
COMPARED WITH GOODS AND SERVICES FURNISHED

THE ENEMY AND EXPENDITURES FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE, 1941

(in millions of kronen)

1941

National Income

12,000

Per cent
100

National Income, excluding profes-

sions, services (except trans.

port) and domestic commerce

8,500

Value of Exports to the Enemy
Value of Shipping Services for

1,200

Enemy

Value Expended on National

80 (100)

200

1,400*

12 (16)

2, 700

22

Defense

*The money value of Swedish railroad facilities to the
enemy in transport of troops on leave and materials has
not been computed, but it probably does not at most
exceed 100 million kronen.

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164
20

ANNEX J

BLOCKADE QUOTAS AND PRINCIPAL COMMODITIES IMPORTED THRU THE
BLOCKADE BY SWEDEN DURING THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 1942 (a)

(Quantities in metric tons)
Commodity

Blockade

Quota (6 months)

Theat and other cereals

Meat (port, fresh & salted)
Dried fruits
Coffee
Cocoa

Spices (including pepper)
Oil cake and meal

Fodder

Animal and vegetable oils

Castor, tung, citicia and
rapeseed oils
Fatty acids
Carnauba Wax

158,200

Total Imports
thru Blockade

Imports
From U.S.

Ratio
Blockade Quota
to Consumption
(1938 Basis)

7,500
24,000
2,500

63,800
2,450
3,730
5,400
1,720

600

520

60,000
5,000
28,000

28,700
840

840

-

27,400

150

64%

R.I.

360

10)

500

250

-)

3,000 (b)

80 (c)

6,000
2,000
3,700

23%

30

91%

10%
63%

71%

3

-

74%

33% (h)

-

-

22

420

30%

5

40% (1)

Rubber and manufactures

2,150

Hides, skins and leather

3,000 (d)

4,200

Raw wool and wool tops
(clean basis)

3,430

3,920

77

61%

18,000
1,750
4,000
2,400
2,500

12,900

180

99%

390

32

1,460

630

117

68

260

150

Raw cotton

Wool manufactures
Cotton manufactures
Cotton waste
Sisal

Coir fibre
Binder twine
Kapok

Brush-making fibres
etroleum products

(including Aviation fuel)
Asphalt

Paraffin wax

R.I.
Nil
120 (e)
290

30,000
11,400
500

14

39%

9

700
500

-

-

-

500

-

26

300

74,400 (f)

-

-

123

74,400 (f)

2,000

Copper

5,000 (g)

Lead

8,000
1,000

Toluol

360

Carbon black
Shellac

180

Casein

350

100

4%

750

750

88% (1)

100

100

17%

-

Asbestos (raw)
Asbestos manufactures

57% (1)
99% (1)
57% (1)

-

11

11
-

50

203

203

114

114

73

22

143

80%
49%
17%
63%
-

73

13%

22

99%

143

60%

21

R.I. Referred item, shipments considered individually
(a)
(b)

(c)

Source: Ministry of Economic Warfare

This figure
is not
regular
quota but represents a single ship
ment
permitted
by aGreat
Britain.
Quota includes other animal, vegetable and-insect waxes.

(d) First quarter only, second quarter under consideration,
(a) Includes ramie.
(f)

Permission was given by the Blockade Committee in London enabling

Sweden to take the entire annual quota during the first two

quarters, and also to receive a supplementary amount (14,000
tons) remaining from the 1941 quota.
(g)

(h)

Semi-annual quota based on quota granted beginning with third
quarter of 1942.

Oil cake derived from imported seeds is not included in the
Blockade quota for oil cake but is included in the estimate

of normal consumption.
(i)

Net imports taken as equivalent to normal consumption.

165

22

ANNEX K

SWEDISH IMPORTS FROM ENEMY TERRITORY

No complete statistics are available on Swedish imports from
Germany and Occupied Europe. It is known, however, that deliveries
in 1941 and estimated deliveries for the full year 1942 are as follows:
1941

Coal and Coke

Commercial iron

Pig iron

Artificial textiles

Machinery

4,800,000 tons
230,000 tons
80,000 tons
144,000,000 kronen
110,000,000 kronen

Potash

Salt

Chloride of lime
Soda

N.R.
N.R.
N.R.
N.R.

1942

3,800,000 tons
300,000 tons
72,000 tons

6,000 tons
110,000,000 kronen
100,000 tons
340,000 tons
30,000 tons
30,000 tons

N.R. - Not reported
Other German exports to Sweden include glass, paints, dyes and
ammonium sulphate. German shipments of coal, coke and iron have
been consistently far behind the agreed schedules. Thus while Germany
agreed to send 5,700,000 tons of coal and coke to Sweden annually
during 1941 and 1942, actual and expected deliveries were respectively
900,000 tona (15%) and 1,900,000 tons (33%) below those stipulated for

these years. In the case of commercial iron and pig iron, German
deliveries in 1941 were 130,000 tons (30%) below those promised.
While deliveries of commercial iron to Sweden in 1942 appear to be improving, Germany has failed to keep her promise to make up the backlog loft over from 1941.
Sweden also has trado agreements with Denmark, Norway, Finland,

Italy, Belgium, Bulgaria, France, Holland, Slovakia, Hungary and
Roumania.

During the first six months of 1942, Denmark was to deliver sugar
(20,000 tons), eggs (600 tons), condonsod milk, fish, seeds, casoin,
insulin, choose and certain industrial products. This agreement has
boon renewed for the second half of 1942, and Denmark is to provido,
in addition to the above commodities, preserves, honey, ooffee substitutes and ovalmaltine.
During the coming six months, also, Bulgarin is to deliver tobacco
and fodder to Sweden.

Under the Swedish-Finnish agreement covering the period from

May 1 to the ond of 1942, the Finns only undertake to export to
Swoden to the extent mado possiblo by thoir supply position, whorcas
the Swodcs guarantoo dolivorios of iron and stool and machinery.

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It is not known exactly what commoditios Italy has undertakon to
send to Swodon during the first half of 1942, but toxtiles appear
to bc among them. Franco will supply Swodon until the end of 1942

with wines, cork, chomicals, and various luxury articles. Bolgium
is to export to Swodon rayon, chloride of lime, leathor goods, zine
platos, clectrodes, chonicals and glass. Slovakia supplies 1,500
tons of lubricating oil as woll as driod vogetables, honey, alcohol
and poultry. Roumania is to furnish gasolino and other potroleum
products and whoat to Swoden during 1942 in exchange for exports
from Swedon of special steel, chromium, and tractors. Norway exports

fish, nitratos of limo, sulphur and pyritos, molybdenum, zinc and

aluminum to Swoden in exchange for Swedish exports.

On September 9, 1942, a new agreement was initialed botween
Swoden and Hungary whereby the latter was to supply foodstuffs,
chemicals, potroleum products, bauxite, aluminum oxide, hemp products

and electrical supplies.

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ANNEX L

SKEDISH CREDIT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE AXIS

There have been three kinds of Swedish credit contributions

to the Axis: A clearing credit to Germany in 1941; Export credit
guarantees granted by Sweden for exports to Germany and Finland; and
loans to Finland to cover her purchases of food in Denmark.

1. The Clearing Credit. In 1941, Germany purchased one billion
kronen worth of goods from Sweden and exported to Sweden

goods valued at nine hundred million kronen. Sweden granted
Germany a clearing credit to make up the difference of one

hundred million kronen. It is understood that this credit

has already been liquidated through the shipments by Germany
of war material and gold to the Swedes. During June 1942 a
German trade delegation arrived in Sweden to arrange a new

clearing credit of 250,000,000 kronor for the remainder of
the year, in order to remedy the situation c reated by declining German coal deliveries. After considerable discussion Germany was not only refused the additional credit but
was forced to agree to pay 20,000,000 kronor in gold outside

the clearing. This refusal of a clearing credit, however,

explains the greater pressure upon Sweden to expand the ex-

port credit guarantees as described below.

2. Export Credit Guarantees. The Swedish Government guarantees to its exporters who deal with Germany in certain commodities (wood and manufacturers, paper and cardboard,
machinery, tools and ball bearings) payment of 25 per cent
or 35 per cent, depending upon the commodity, of the invoice
price. The maximum extent to which such export crodits can
be given is determined by the Swedish parliament which has
set a ceiling on the sum that may be guarantood by the

Government financing agency. At the present time, the ceiling has been set at one hundred million kronen for the 1942-

1944 fiscal years. But since it is expected that the prosent limit of one hundred million kronon will be exceeded
by the end of this month, the Swedish Parliament is being
pressed to increase the maximum credit to three hundred

million kronon for the 1942-44 period.

Swoden also permits Finland to defer payment for goods
exported to Finland undor the trade agreement between the

two countries. The maximum credit to be granted for the

period from May 1 to December 31, 1942, is 22,750,000 kronen.
3. Loans to Finland to Cover Food Purchased in Donmark. Sweden

has on throo occasions this year extended crodits to Finland
for the purchase of foodstuffs in Donmark. Those credits

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total thirty-seven million Swodish kronon and arc not based
on any financial transfor but upon actual shipments from
Swoden to Donmark to pay for Danish delivorios to Finland/
Swedish exports to Denmark during the first half of 1942
were estimated to be not less than sixty-six million kronen
of which at least twenty-eight million kronen covered Danish

deliveries to Finland.

The Ministry of Economic Warfare concludes that "these Swedish

loans to Finland are particularly reprehensible because they not only

assist the Finns in getting supplies of foodstuffs but also aid the

Danes in receiving supplies from Sweden". The Ministry of Economic

Warfare also states that it is a violation of international law for

a neutral government to assist a belligerent in receiving credit from
the neutral's own citizens.
It is estimated that during 1942 Swedish credits to Germany and

Finland will total about 300 million kronor, equivalent in value to

one-forth of Sweden's exports of goods and services to the enemy. But,

in addition, there are other credits granted indirectly through the
artificial inflation of German export prices. These concealed credits
may amount to about 200 million kronor in 1942. If this amount is
added to the direct credit, about 40 percent of Swedish exports of
goods and services to the enemy may be estimated to be uncompensated
by the enemy's exports to Sweden.

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ANNEX M

SWEDISH OIL POSITION

1, Military
Based on statistical data furnished by the Swedish Government
on September 10, 1942, it is estimated that on November 1,Siredish

petroleum stocks for military purposes will be as follows:
24,600 tons
Aviation gasoline
Gas bil and fuel oil
73,500 tons
Lubricants

5,500 tons

According to the latest Swedish statement, the present monthly

rate of consumption is as follows:
Aviation gasoline

Gas oil and fuel oil
Lubricants

1,800 tons
3,750 tons
180 tons

Based on these consumption rates, the stock position in terms of

months supply is as follows:
Aviation gasoline

Gas oil and fuel oil
Lubricants

13 months
192 months

30 months

In the early part of this year, the Swedes estimated that under
combat conditions, monthly petroleum requirements would be as
follows:

Aviation gasoline

Gas oil and fuel oil

Lubricants

7,000 tons
21,000 tons
1,000 tons

Based on this consumption rate under combat conditions, the stock
position in terms of months' supply would be as follows:
Aviation gasoline

30 months
30 months

Lubricants

5 months

G6s oil and fuel oil

On September 10 the Swedish Government Representative in London War-

reported to the Representatives of the Ministry of Economic the
fare and the Petroleum Attache to the American Embassy that

Swedish Rikstag had, in June of this year, approved a five-year
plan for defense. Based on this plan, monthly requirements under

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combat conditions are estimated by the Swedes to be as follows:
Aviation gasoline
11,000 tons

Gas oil and fuel oil

Lubricants

40,000 tons
2,000 tons

on the basis of these latest estimates, the Swedish stock position, in terms of Months! supply, would be as follows on November11:
Aviation gasoline
2223 months

Gas oil and fuel oil

Lubricants

1188 months

2.75 months

The proposed Sveadrott cargo is as follows:
Aviation gasoline

Fuel oil and gas oil
(Fuel oil 7,400)
(Goa oil 1,600)

Lubricants

4,800 tons
9,000 tons
570 tons

According to the latest estimates of consumption under combat
conditions,
as
follows: this cargo would cover requirements approximately
Aviation gasoline

Gas oil and fuel oil

Lubricants

2 weeks
1 week
1 week

2. Non-Military
a. Domostic Requirements

The petroleum products which Sweden imported through the

blockade during 1941 and 1942 were exclusively for military
uso. Non-military requirements have beon and are being met
from the pre-wer stock pile, indigenous production of shale

oil, alcohol and other.substitutes, and the importation of

small quantities of low-grade lubricatns from Germany.

Basod on statistics secured from the Swedes, the November 1

stock position of petroleum productánfor non-military use
should be approximately as follows:
Automotive gasoline
Keroseno

Gas oil and fuel oil

Lubricants

to

103,000 tons
14,000 tons
15,000 tons
21,500 tons

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Based on the latest available figures for civil consumption,
the stock position in terms of months' supply should be as
follows:
Automotive gasoline
Kerosone

60 months
of months

Gas oil and fuel oil 9 months
Lubricants

10 months

This estimate is basod on consumption at the presont rnto.
It is estimated that under combat conditions, automotivo
gasolino, the only product which would bo consumod in largor

quantity, would last for 30 months.

b.

Bunker Requirements

Swedish ships in the Gothonburg safe conduct traffic receive
their bunker oil supplios from Buonos Airos and Montovidoo.
These stocks are laid down by Swedish tankers and are subject
to the control of this Government by means of a system which
has recently been developed by the Board of Economic Warfare,
Petroleum Coordinator, State Department and War Shipping

Administration. The loading of the tankers carrying these

bunker supplies to Buenos Aires and Montevideo is also under

the strict control of this Government.

The quantity of bunker fuel lifted by the Gothenburg ships
from the two above-mentioned bunker stations totals about
6,000 tons monthly.