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DIARY

Book 574

October 1 and 2, 1942

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American Agriculturist
Farmers' Standard Carbide Company of Pittsburg, New York

Book Page

(Samuel Null, President): Article in publication

January 26, 1924, discussed in Mrs. E. Goold-Mrs. FDR-Treasury correspondence - 10/1/42

574

122

-BBell, James Washington
See Financing, Government
Brazil
See Latin America

-CCagney, James

See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds
Canada

See Lend-Lease

Eastern Provinces Administration, Limited: Colonel Doriot's
connection with reported in Paul memorandum - 10/1/42
a) Strauss (Commander, Navy) endorsement of
Doriot - 10/13/42: See Book 578, page 139

146

Chiefs of Staff, Joint
See Joint Chiefs of Staff
China

Joint Distribution Committee: Paul memorandum giving
resume' to date - 10/1/42

132,134

Cooper, Jere (Congressman, Tennessee)
See Sho af, William A.
Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's mail report - 10/2/42

271

Curley, John
Discussed by HMJr and McCormack (Congressman, Massachusetts) 10/2/42

173

- - D. -

Doriot, Colonel Georges F. (Quartermaster Corps)
See Canada

Draeger Shipping Company

See Foreign Funds Control
E-

Eastern Provinces Administration, Limited
See Canada

Emergency Price Control Act of 1942
See Inflation
"Everybody Every Payday"
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

Exports

To Russia, Free China, and selected blocked countries
during 10-day period ending September 20, 1942 - 10/2/42.

309

--Farmers' Standard Carbide Company of Pittsburg, New York
See American Agriculturist

Book Page

Financing, Government

$4 billion borrowing - as much as possible outside
commercial banks - discussed by HMJr, Bell, Harrison,
Burgess, Brown, Spencer, and Edwards - 10/1/42
a) Agenda

574

26,53
63

b) Bankers' group recommendations
Conference of Treasury group and Executive Committee
of Open Market Committee - 10/2/42
Bell (James Washington) in New York Herald-Tribune

65

177

questions assumption that year's borrowing should be

limited to $35 billion - 10/2/42

Tax Savings Notes: Report on sales in September

227
-

10/2/42.

253

yields: Haas memorandum - 10/2/42

255

Government securities - recent changes in prices and
War Savings Bonds:

State Administrators - meeting of:
Agenda - 10/1/42

20

"Everybody Every Payday": Odegard memorandum on

planned conference with Petrillo - 10/1/42
a) Petrillo gives permission for record:

67

See Book 575, page 107

Cagney, etc., thanked for assistance in September
campaign - 10/1/42

68

Payroll Savings Plan: Analysis as of September 26,
1942 - 10/2/42

265

Foreign Funds Control
Draeger Shipping Company: Report to FDR on handling 10/2/42

294

-GGoold, Mrs. E.
See American Agriculturist
Green, Theodore Francis (Senator, Rhode Island)
See Silver

-HHawaii

Industrial shop workers of Pearl Harbor Navy Yard
transmit $70,000 toward air or sea craft named
Pearl Harbor - 10/2/42

259

IInflation

Book

Page

574

232

Emergency Price Control Act of 942 - amendment to 10/2/42

Wage Increases: Enforcement of orders under Price
Stabilisation Act by Treasury Department discussed

by Paul and Davis (War Labor bard) - 10/1/42

109

JJoint Chiefs of Staff
"The Security Control": HMJr tels Admiral Leahy that
he will welcome representative of - 10/2/42
Joint Distribution Committee

268

See China

Julian, William A.
Editorials in connection with cddy altercation 10/2/42

241

- KKentucky

See Revenue Revision

- LLatin America

Brasil: Vargas thanks HMJr for proffered financial
assistance - 10/1/42

153

Mexico: Beteta (Ramon) -- Ambassaor Najera difference

of opinion over relations with United States
reported to HMJr - 10/1/42

154

Lend-Lease

Stettinius-HMJr correspondence oncerning valuation

of reciprocal aid and procedue for - 10/2/42

296

(See also Book 575, page 35 - 10/5/42)

Canada:

Navy purchase of PBY boats an dollar position
involved discussed by HMJr nd Forrestal's aide 10/1/42

22

Navy purchase of PBY boats an dollar position

involved discussed by HMJr, Towers, Strauss, and
White - 10/1/42
U.S.S.R.: Rubber tire manufactuing equipment program
being given "the run-around" . Paul memorandum 10/1/42

a) Cox-HMJr conversation - 0/2/42

44

112
169

b) I.F. Stone calls on HMJ prior to Akron visit

in connection with secon-hand rubber making
machine - 10/2/42.
United Kingdom: Federal ReserveBank of New York
statement showing dollar disbraements, week ending
September 23, 1942 - 10/1/42.

203

149

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Page

Manpower

Sanders (Colonel Lewis) recommended to Hopkins as

being well-informed on subject - 10/1/42

574

1

Mexico

See Latin America

Military Reports
British operations - 10/1/42, 10/2/42
"Voice of the Chief" broadcast - Hoflich summary 10/1/42

156,157,330
161

Japanese and United States Pacific Naval Losses Hoflich memorandum - 10/1/42
"The War This Week, September 24 - October 1, 1942 -

Office of Strategic Services report - 10/1/42

New Guinea: Map of roads and trails - 10/2/42

Office of War Information report - 10/2/42

164
168
331

334

a) Young and Rubicam report on adjustments to
decreased purchasing power

-NNelson, Donald

Apologizes for testimony of Wilbur Nelson before Senate
Finance Committee on War Production Board's point of

view regarding effect of taxation on production of
strategic and critical metals - 10/2/42

234

Nelson, Wilbur
Donald Nelson apologizes for testimony before Senate
Finance Committee on War Production Board's point of

view regarding effect of taxation on production of
strategic and critical metals - 10/2/42

234

New Guinea

See Military Reports
New York

See Revenue Revision

Null, Samuel (President, Farmers' Standard Carbide Company
of Pittsburg, New York)
See American Agriculturist

-PPetrillo, James
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds

-RRevenue Revision

FDR's communications with the Congress or its committees

for consideration of tax bill transmitted to White

House and then withdrawn - 10/1/42
Rum1 Plan: Senator George, at luncheon of National Retail
Dry Goods Association, predicts full and sympathetic
consideration - 10/1/42

75

107

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Book

Page

574

108

Revenue Revision (Continued)
Spendings Tax: Senators Lee and O'Mahoney and

Congressman Gore express interest in - 10/1/42
Joint Committee on Taxation: Direct access to Bureau
of Internal Revenue proposed by HMJr - 10/2/42
a) Paul memorandum - 10/2/42
Donald Nelson apologizes for testimony before Senate
Finance Committee on War Production Board's point of

view regarding effect of taxation on production of
strategic and critical metals - 10/2/42

200
216

234

Federal tax returns in Kentucky in 1864 and New York
in 1867 discussed in Treasury correspondence 10/2/42

244

Rubber

See Lend-Lease: U.S.S.R.
Rubicam and Young

For comments on adjustments to decreased purchasing

power, see Military Reports: Office of War Information
report

Ruml Plan

See Revenue Revision

-SSanders, Colonel Lewis
See Manpower

Shoaf, William A.
Recommended by Congressman Jere Cooper; wants $5000

a year job; Paul disapproves - 10/2/42

233

Silver

Green, Theodore Francis (Senator, Rhode Island)
Treasury comment on proposed bill authorising use

of silver for war purposes - 10/1/42

Stone, I. F.

See Lend-Lease: U.S.S.R.

-TTaxation
See Revenue Revision

-UU.S.S.R.
See Lend-Lease

Security Control, Joint
See Joint Chiefs of Staff

115,116

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"Voice of the Chief"
See Military Reports
W

Wage Increases

See Inflation
Walsh, David E. (Senator, Massachusetts)

Treasury's opposition to proposal to preclude
renegotiating agencies ***** from reducing contractor's
profit below 5% of his sales after income and excess

profits taxes: Paul letter - 10/2/42

War Savings Bonds

See Financing, Government

-YYoung and Rubican

For comments on adjustments to decreased purchasing

power, see Military Reports: Office of War
Information report

574

219

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October 1, 1942
9:20 a.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Secretary, the White House operator is trying
to locate Mr. Hopkins. She said she'11 call you
back.

HMJr:

Thank you.

Operator:

You're welcome.
9:41 a.m.

HMJr:

Hello. Hello.

Operator:

Go ahead.

HMJr:

Hello.

Harry
Hopkins:

Hello, Henry.

HMJr:

Good morning.

H:

Good morning, Henry.

HMJr:

The man that I saw yesterday was Colonel Lewis

Sanders - S-a-n-d-e-r-8.

H:

S-a-n-d-e-r-8 - Colonel Lewie?

HMJr:

Yeah, and he's in the office of General Hershey.

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And he's got the answers to most of the questions
that you were asking me yesterday about this Man
Power.

H:

And he knows what he's talking about?

HMJr:

He knows what he's talking about, and he's done

more original thinking on it than anybody I've
met in this town.

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H:

And he - he's got ideas of what ought to be done?

HMJr:

And he has ideas what ought to be done.

H:

I'm going to see him today.

HMJr:

H:

He's - he's worth - well, I gave him an hour and
three-quarters.
Well, I'11 give him plenty of time.

HMJr:

He's worth seeing, Harry.

H:

I won't do it unless I've got plenty of time.

HMJr:

No, and....

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Harry?

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

I wondered if you knew that O. W. I. used your

name on this Russian refinery business?
H:

No.

HMJr:

And called us up and said we shouldn't get out any
more statements unless they were first okay'd by
you?

H:

Never heard of it. Never even heard of it.

HMJr:

Well, I didn't think

H:

I don't know anything about it. Elmer Davis was
trying to get me yesterday, but when I called him

he was busy.
HMJr:
H:

HMJr:

Well, I was

I don't know a damn thing about it, and they got no
business saying things like that.

Will you tell that

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Oh, yes, I'll tell Davis. I'11 call - who - who

H:

did - who called who, do you know? I suppose
some of their fellows called some of your fellows.

HMJr:

Some - wait a minute, I'11 ask Schwarz. Abe Feller.

H:

Abe Feller?

HMJr:

Yes.

H:

He's in O.W.I.

HMJr:

Yeah.

H:

Called up who?

HMJr:

Called up Schwarz.

H:

In your office?

HMJr:
H:

In my office.
Sure, I'11 tell them to mind their own damn
business.

HMJr:

What?

H:

I'11 tell them to mind their own damn business.

HMJr:

Okay.

H:

Yeah, all right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

H:

Goodbye.

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October 1, 1942
9:30 a.m.
GROUP

Present:

Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Graves

Mr. Buffington

Mr. Gamble

Mr. Cairns

Mr. Gaston
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Kuhn

Mr. White
Mr. Blough
Mr. Odegard

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR: Herbert, on that complaint that we had
from General Strong on Tampa, I never heard from it about having it investigated.
MR. GASTON: We wrote many letters. First we

wrote a letter after receiving it, asking to have it

investigated, and another after we had investigated its
telling him that the examinations - the searches were
made on the specific, direct request of Military Intelligence,
We sent him a copy of the report, showing that it was
only done by Customs after Military Intelligence had made

a definite request that it be done.

H.M.JR: You never heard from it?
MR. GASTON: No.

H.M.JR: Here is one from Sumner Welles. (Letter
from Mr. Summer Welles dated September 26, 1942, handed

to Mr. Gaston.)

5

-2MR. GASTON: That will be another of the same

kind - a request of the investigative agencies, I don't

have any doubt.

H.M.JR: You certainly did some job on him.

MR. GASTON: I will look into that. I had a letter

this morning from the head of the Special Defense Unit
in Justice, asking if we will agree to make searches
on request of any one of the three investigative agencies make body searches for any one of the three investigative
agencies.

H.M.JR: You know how I feel. I would play safe
and keep the bodies here, if there is any doubt. Do we
do it the way they used to do in the World War, scrub

their bodies to see if there is invisible ink on their

bodies?

MR. GASTON: I don't think we have gone that far.

H.M.JR: They can write it right on your body.
MR. GASTON: We probably would if the Intelligence

Unit had a genuine curiosity.

H.M.JR: Ask them. You could write this on your

body with invisible ink; and unless you scrub it, it
stays there.

MR. GASTON: We had a case two weeks ago of a

Portuguese ship in Baltimore where the FBI men wanted
the Customs to make a body search of every member of the
crew before permitting them to go ashore. The Customs

people told the FBI men they would do that if they would

put it in writing. They refused to put it in writing,
and they did not do it.

H.M.JR: Have you got anything, Herbert?
MR. GASTON: No, I haven't anything except here
are a couple of memoranda on those Seattle investigations.

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There is just about a final clean-up on that. I
thought you might be interested.

H.M.JR: You stay behind a minute.
MR. GASTON: Yes.

H.M.JR: Sullivan?
MR. SULLIVAN: There is a consulting management

engineering company in New York that has written to
several companies suggesting that now that the tax

rates are up this is the time to have the new things
in their business that they need, and let the Government
pay the freight.
One of these people who got such a letter sent
it to you and wrote back to this company saying that

they thought it was most unpatriotic. We are going

after that engineering company.

I have here for your signature a letter to Nelson
pointing out the situation and enclosing the correspondence and saying that he might want to look after the
priorities that were granted to this engineering company.
MR. GASTON: They just didn't know how to phrase

their letter, John.

MR. SULLIVAN: It is a beaut. (Letter addressed
to Mr. Nelson signed by the Secretary.)
We had the first meeting of the sub-committee on
compensation for concentrated industries, and there is

to be another meeting Friday. I rather suspect that

almost everybody in WPB has gone all out for this.

The talks were in the preliminary stages, but it
looks to me as though what they expect to do is to set

7

-4up a national pool out of which all industries that

are closed are to be compensated from the profits of
those industries in whom the orders are concentrated.
There were quite some implications. I will keep you
posted as if goes along.
H.M.JR: Please.
Anything else?

MR. SULLIVAN: That is all, sir.
H.M.JR: Roy?

MR. BLOUGH: May I have, say, five minutes some

time this morning to take up with you the letter we
are asking the President - drafting for the President
on the Vandenberg amendment?

H.M.JR: What letter is that? I am all tied up.
MR. BLOUGH: The letter which McNutt and Madam

Perkins - Secretary Perkins-H.M.JR: On what?
MR. BLOUGH: The Vandenberg amendment. We are

trying to get the President to take some action on
that, you know, Social Security freezing.

H.M.JR: You come in at quarter of three. That
is the only time I have.

8

-5- MR. BUFFINGTON: I have nothing.

MR. GAMBLE: Mr. Secretary, at the close of the
day, if we have gone over our quota for September
we would like to have you talk to Mr. James Cagney,
the president of the Screen Actors Guild, on the
phone for about two or three minutes.

H.M.JR: I won't do it. Listen, Ted - look, you
fellows, there is something else in the world. Now,

look, that is what was put on my desk this morning for

you fellows. (Indicating letters to be signed.) I
just can't raise - I have got to try to study how to
raise four billion dollars. I mean, there is a limit
and I can't do it. I am willing to write - look at
that.

MR. GAMBLE: I understand, sir.

H.M.JR: I can't do it, I am sorry. I mean, I am
so tied up now that - there is two days' mail

waiting to be signed there.

MR. GAMBLE: Our interest is that we are trying
to sell the program for January. He is the president
of all these actors and actresses.
H.M.JR: I thought Arnold was.
MR. GAMBLE: Cagney is the new president, and they

are having a big meeting out in Hollywood tonight,

following his trip. Unfortunately, we had an incident,
too, that did not set so well with Mr. Cagney. He is

highly temperamental, perhaps the most temperamental

man on the tour, and we thought just a "hello" from you
and an expression of thanks to him for all these people--

H.M.JR: You will have to get along. I am going

to try to sign all these (indicating letters). I mean,

there must be twenty-five letters here, and I signed
five for you yesterday. You stopped me in the middle
of the day to sign five so you could get them out. I

did that. I don charge you for Veronica Lake. If you
want me to call up Veronica Lake, I have the time. (Laughter)

y

-6MR. KUHN: I have nothing.
H.M.JR: Cairns?
MR. CAIRNS: I have nothing.
H.M.JR: Where is Randolph?

MR. CAIRNS: He went to a meeting at the Labor

Department.

(The Secretary held a telephone conversation
with Mr. Hopkins.)
H.M.JR: He says he doesn't know anything about it
and we should tell them to mind their own damned business.
MR. SCHWARZ: That is interesting.

H.M.JR: I debated all night whether I should go

to Davis. I said, "Why go to Davis? I will go right
to Hopkins. " I feel pretty good, now. You know this
town; it is awfully hard to breathe in it. (Laughter)
What did they tell you?
MR. SCHWARZ: That nothing further should be said

on the Russian gasoline situation without first clearing

with Harry Hopkins.

H.M.JR: He said he never heard anything about it,

that it was perfectly ridiculous, and we should tell

them it was none of their damned business.

MR. SCHWARZ: We will be all right with our story

in this afternoon's Post.

H.M.JR: My own thinking is to follow the usual

Treasury policy of cooperating and go ahead and do as

we think best. (Laughter) What do you think, Herbert?
MR. GASTON: I think that is good policy.

10

-7 H.M.JR: I don't think, Herbert, that I should
call up - should I call up Elmer Davis and give him
hell? I think the thing for us to do is go ahead and
pay no attention. If he calls up and gives us hell,I will
say, "I spoke to Harry Hopkins and he told us to tell

you to mind your own business."

MR. SCHWARZ: "We have checked on your request."

MR. CAIRNS: We have a clearance from him.

H.M.JR: Sure, but I mean there is no use in

calling back Elmer Davis.

MR. CAIRNS: No, they said to check with Harry
Hopkins.

MRS. KLOTZ: Cairns said you have a clearance with

Harry Hopkins to do it.

MR. GASTON: Consider that you have a blanket
clearance.
H.M.JR: Would anybody have me call back Davis?

MR. WHITE: I think he is having a pretty hard time

as it is. You will only make it more difficult.
(Laughter)

=

him?

H.M.JR: Don't feel sorry for him. Have you met
MR. WHITE: Yes, I met him.

H.M.JR: The best way I can describe him, in the
words of Peter Odegard, he has a Jehovah complex,

having addressed so many million people over the air
for 80 long.
Was it you, Huntingtm, that said we got a clearance?

MR. CAIRNS: Yes, you followed their instructions,

you checked with Hopkins and he has given you a blanket
clearance.

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H.M.JR: I get quite a kick out of this. I am
not a baby, but I get quite a kick out of it.
All right, where were we when that happened?

MR. CAIRNS: Paul is at the Labor Department. I
have nothing to report.

H.M.JR: Incidentally, I want to say that Cairns
did a perfectly swell job for us on this Russian oil
refinery thing. He did a swell job.
MR. CAIRNS: It was under your guidance, Mr.Secretary.

H.M.JR: It is all under my guidance, but that does
not mean I always get results.
MR. ODEGARD: You asked the other day about having

two of these numbers that were on the Lucky Strike Star
Parade put on platters.

H.M.JR: Platters? (Laughter)
MR. ODEGARD: Have records made of them. I didn't
know whether you wanted to know what we had done about

that or not.

H.M.JR: Yes, sir.
MR. ODEGARD: We find that we cannot get those made

by Victor because Petrillo refuses to allow the

musicians to make the records for commercial distribution.
We are completely stymied.

H.M.JR: How did we - we did the Irving Berlin

record.

MR. ODEGARD: We can do this by having a radio

recording made; put this on a record with the infantry
song on one side, and "Evirybody Every Payday" on the

other, and distribute it. We cannot do it commercially;
it would cost us about twenty-five hundred dollars to

do that.

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-9Now, this song, "Ev'rybody Every Pay Day" actually
has gone out. We have done that. We have a radio

recording of it with Dinah Shore singing it on one
side and Milton Douglas singing it on the other side
of the record - the same song. We don't have the
infantry song.

H.M.JR: But that record has gone?
MR. ODEGARD: Yes, we have that record.

H.M.JR: Is it in the hands of every radio station?
MR. ODEGARD: Well, I would have to check to see

whether it is in every radio station, but we have done
that.

H.M.JR: That is all I was trying to get.
MR. ODEGARD: You were not so concerned about the

commercial distribution of it?

H.M.JR: Well, what the Victor did for me, they

made a black record of Berlin's two songs - the ordnance
song and the "High Hat" bond song. Wouldn't they do
that?

MR. ODEGARD: No.

H.M.JR: Why not?

MR. CDEGARD: The Union refuses to allow it.
H.M.JR: Why?

MR. ODEGARD: They refuse because it would be a
commercial operation.

H. .M.JR: I mean, supposing Victor wants to do it

and sell it.

MR. ODEGARD: They can't do it.

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- 10 H.M.JR: But they make other records.

MR. ODEGARD: There is difficulty there, too, about
Victor getting permission to make the records.
H.M.JR: Do you mean Victor has stopped making all

records?

MR. ODEGARD: No, they have not stopped making all

records, but Vince told me he talked to the Victor
people and they preferred not to go ahead. I will read
you the memorandum.

He says, "I have been unable to carry out the
Secretary's request because of a dispute now existing

between the American Federation of Musicians and

Victor and other recording companies. The Musicians Union
will not give permission to make such a record for
commercial purposes. Consequently, it is impossible

for Victor to make the record.

H.M.JR: Read that again; I don't understand it.
MR. ODEGARD: It says there is"a dispute now existing between the American Federation of Musicians and
Victor and other recording companies. The Musicians
Union will not give permission to make such a record
for commercial purposes. Consequently, it is impossible

for Victor to make the record."

H.M.JR: Well, that man sitting on your left is
the expert on this. Will you turn It over to him?
MR. ODEGARD: Huntington?

H.M.JR: Yes. Huntington, will you take this up
with Victor for me? I wanted what they call the black
records, which sell for fifty cents, and they did this
for me - I mean for them to sell. You see, not for
the radio stations because that is a different kind,
but to sell on the market. I want the regular black
record with "Every Payday, Ten Percent" on one side,

and the infantry song on the other.

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- 11 MR. KUHN: That dispute arose since we had the

Berlin record made. That is why there is a difficulty.
H.M.JR: I know. Let Huntington get in on this.
After all, he got us our stuff on the radio. I mean,
you steered us all through that thing with ASCAP,
didn't you?
MR. CAIRNS: Yes, I did.
H.M. JR: You did a good job; see what you can do

on this. I mean, it just doesn't make sense.

MR. GASTON: If Huntington can settle the row between Petrillo and the recording companies he would be
doing something, because Elmer Davis and Fly and everybody else has been trying to.

H.M.JR: He did it for us on the whole thing on

ASCAP. We were, as far as I know, the only agency
permitted to go ahead and use all copyrighted songs.
MR. KUHN: We are permitted to do all our work with

recordings. Petrillo says his dispute does not affect
Government recordings, but this that we are proposing
to do is a commercial proposition, and that is why it
comes under his ban. He has been very good about the

Government's program.

H.M.JR: Well, it is like I put this thing up to
Hopkins; Hopkins says, "I never heard of it." Petrillo

may say, "of course, if Mr. Morgenthau says he wants a
record made to sell his bonds, and an infantry song

on the other side, he can have it."

MR. ODEGARD: Mr. Callahan has been in direct

touch with Petrillo on this.

H.M.JR: Well,let's turn it over to Huntington.

You pick up the pieces, will you, Huntington?
MR. CAIRNS: I will do my best.

15

- 12 H.M.JR: I know I am asking you to do something

tough, but it is like the session I had here with the
plate printers. I mean, they were all ready - the
Bureau of Engraving - weren't they, to fly through the

ceiling, and they said, "Why don't you give us a chance,
Mr. Morgenthau? What you want is production, don't
you?" I mean, Green brought them in. I said, "Yes".

He said, "Just tell us that you want all the bonds

and money printed, and you give us - you say that it

is our responsibility; we accept it; we don't care how

many hours we work. But we don't want any of that
stuff done down in the cellar that they are doing down

in the Bureau." They are trying to teach apprentices make "quickie" apprentices. That is a new word; I just
learned it.
So he said, "If you put the responsibility on us

to give you the bonds and the money that you need, we

will do it. Just say it is our responsibility.
Is that right?
MR. THOMPSON: That is right.

H.M.JR: What about that fellow Slattery over
there? They don't seem to like him.
MR. THOMPSON: Slattery is all right, but he is

not a plate printer. He came up with the electrolytic-H.M.JR: Neither is Hall.
MR. THOMPSON: They always wanted a plate printer.

He was a little too rough with them.

H.M.JR: I tried to get Gaston to come in because
he has a Plate Printers Union card in his pocket. Did
you know that?

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- 13 MR. THOMPSON: I didn't know that.
MR. GASTON: Were they here today?

H.M.JR: That day I tried to get you. I thought

you would like to sit in on it. How many men knew
that Herbert was a member of the Printers Union?

MR. GASTON: My publicity is only about fifty

percent effective. (Laughter)

H.M.JR: All right now, we fixed you with Petrillo,

Huntington. Have you got something else?
MR. CAIRNS: No.

MR. ODEGARD: No, that is all.
H.M.JR: Chick?
MR. SCHWARZ: I have nothing
Post?

H.M.JR: What do we look for today, a story in the
MR. SCHWARZ: That is right.

H.M. JR: Anything more in today's "PM"?

MR. SCHWARZ: I sent it down earlier. He has
rubber today.

MR. WHITE: I called Duggan last night. He said
that Donnelly of Rio de Janeiro had been on the telephone
with him a couple of hours previously, and had gotten
their assistants to send some currency by Army plane

from Florida. He thought it was a very excellent thing,
what you did, to call the ambassador. He highly
approves.

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- 14 The Canadian contract matter is still unsettled
and awaiting your attention - the airplane contract.
H.M.JR: That is awaiting my attention?

MR. WHITE: Yes, that is right.

H.M.JR: You get it. I want to talk to Gaston
for one minute, and we will do it right after. They

will have to wait. We will fix it up.

MR. WHITE: All right. I don't think we have
any definite, direct responsibility with respect to
the allocating of lend-lease or the granting of lendlease. You may consider, however, that you have an

indirect responsibility. Lend-lease is going to South

Africa, and there is considerable doubt as to whether
South Africa has not more than abundant assets to pay

for it. They have never informed us of their total
assets on the ground that that is a confidential

matter. We have never pressed them very hard.

I don't know whether you want to take any action

or step into that picture.
H.M.JR: Yes. Sure, I haven't enough to do.
(Laughter)

MR. WHITE: Well then, I imagine the appropriate

thing might be to ask Stettinius about it.

H.M.JR: Somebody said the other day, "What is

happening to all the South African gold?"

MR. WHITE: We don't know. We have some guesses,

but we don't know. Is that something you want to

take up with Mr. Stettinius yourself, to begin with?
H.M.JR: No. Would you mind?

MR. WHITE: All right.

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- 15 H.M.JR: Anything else?
MR. WHITE: I am wondering whether you would

want to call another meeting of that informal
committee on the International Stabilization Fund,

to report what progress has been made and where you

want to go from there.

H.M.JR: Talk to me when you stay behind. We

will do Canada, and I will talk to you about that.
Harold?

MR. GRAVES: Would you have as much as fifteen
minutes' time to see Mr. Odegard, Mr. Gamble, Mr.
Kuhn, and me this week?

H.M.JR: The last time you came in was the time
that you stacked the cards on me. (Laughter)
MRS. KLOTZ: He brought them in to protect him.

(Laughter)

H.M.JR: What was that about?
MR. GRAVES: That statement you signed on

September 11 about the failure of the voluntary

plan. That was it.

H.M.JR: I will see you fellows at three-thirty.

By that time you will know whether you have made

your quota. If you have, while you are here I will
call that fellow up.
MR. GRAVES: Wonderful. We know now that we
have made our quota. We may not have the exact

figures by three-thirty.

H.M.JR: Well, anyway, come in at three-thirty.
Do you have to bring all that gang with you? (Laughter)

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- 16 MR. GRAVES: I want to, very much, because they

know a lot more about the subject than I do. This is
to discuss the agenda of our proposed meeting.

H.M.JR: Harold Graves and company. (Laughter)
MR. THOMPSON: That is the promotion of the girl

over in the ticker room. (Reclassification sheet of
Miss Frances McCathran signed by the Secretary.)

H.M.JR: Anything else?
MR. THOMPSON: That is all.

Oct.1.1944,

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TENTATIVE AGENDA,
PROPOSED MEETING OF STATE ADMINISTRATORS.

(Oct. 15 - 17, at either Kansas City or Chicago)
I - In General Meeting
Opening statement by Mr. Graves (to be prepared in advance
and read)

(1) Review of progress.

(2) Program for the future.
(3) Statement of Secretary's policy.
(See attached rough outline.)

II - In Group Meetings conducted by Messrs. Gamble, Odegard,

and Coyne, and participated in by various members of the

Staff according to subject.

Discussion leaders indicated.
(1) Payroll Savings (Engelsman)

(a) Objectives: All remaining companies to install
plans.

90% employee participation
10% of gross payroll
Expedited delivery of bonds
(b) Methods of promotion
(2) F and G Bond promotion (Gamble)

(a) Prospect lists
(b) Direct mail and other advertising
(c) Canvassers

(a) Follow-up
(3) Farm Program (Myers, Partain)
(4) Women's Program (Odegard)

(5) Schools at War (Odegard, Anderson)
(6) Labor (Houghteling)

(7) Negro Activities (Houghteling)

(8) Special Events (Gamble, Duffus, Welch)

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-2(9) Retailers Activities (Gamble, Mahan)

(10) Sales Outlets (Gamble)
(11) Advertising, Publicity, and Promotion (Odegard,
Callahan, Thomas)

(12) Miscellaneous (Odegard, Coyne, Gamble)

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October 1, 1942
10:26 a.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Forrestal is over at the Capitol, but his

HMJr:

Captain who?

Operator:

G-1-n-g-r-1-c-h.

HMJr:

Put him on.

Operator:
HMJr:

All right.
Hello. Hello. Hello.

Operator:

Captain Gingrich.

HMJr:

Hello.

Captain

aide is there, Captain Gingrich.

Gingrich:

Good morning, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

How are you?

G:

HMJr:

Fine, thank you, sir. This is Captain Gingrich.
I'm sorry the Under Secretary isn't here. He had
to go over on the Hill.
That's all right. I think you can help me out.
I've been fussing around here with an order that
the Navy Department wants to place for PBY boats

in Canada. My interest is in the dollar position

of Canada. We had a meeting a week or two ago
at which Commander Lewis Strauss represented you?

G:

HMJr:

Yes, sir.
Now I'm not satisfied with the explanation that
I've been given, and I used - I knew Admiral
Towers very well. I don't know who has taken his
place.

G:

Admiral McCain is going to take it. He has not

arrived yet. I think he is coming in possibly
tomorrow.

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HMJr:

Well, do you suppose that Admiral Towers, & 8 long

G:

I think they would be delighted to do that, sir.

HMJr:

Now here's the point.

G:

If - if there's any - if - if they're not able to,
I'11 tell your secretary. Otherwise, it's - the

as Commander Strauss represented you, could come
over and see me maybe at four o' clock?

appointment stands.

HMJr:

G:

HMJr:
G:

HMJr:
G:

HMJr:

Yeah, now let me tell you what I want to know. They
say that they're placing an order up there for
two hundred planes, which are -- well, I don't know,
I wouldn't call them obsolete but older planes
Yeah.

of an older design
Yeah, I know what the PBY 18.

to be lend-leased to England, do you see?

Yes, sir.

Well, in the first place, it's never been established that we're going to lend-lease materiel
that we buy in Canada to England, but that - that's
one point. But the one I want to ask Admiral
Towers about is, why place an order in Canada for
a flying boat that isn't the best flying boat?
Why do we place an order up there for a second or
third-rate flying boat? Do you see?

G:

Right.

HMJr:

Hello?

G:

Yes, sir, right.

HMJr:

Because by the time you get into production and

everything else, it won't be any good, and if
they're going to - the time might come, and they

say, "Well, it's going to go to England. It's

good enough for England," - well, you have them
G:

Oh, no.

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- -3HMJr:

....up there - it seems to me that you might
want to take fifty of them some day if you
needed them badly

That's right, sir.

G:

HMJr:

and then if you did you'd - why not give why not give them the very best designs. It
doesn'

Well, we're - we're all fighting the war.

G:

HMJr:

Pardon.

I say, we're - both England and ourselves are
fighting the war.

G:

HMJr:

Well, I - I know that, and I

G:

And - and - and we've got to give them the best
we can.

HMJr:

Well, that's the way I feel. So why give them

G:

But

HMJr:

And that's what I wanted Admiral Towers to explain

the second-best?

to me.

G:

Right, sir. I'll - I'11 tell them, and - and

HMJr:

You - you get the point?

G:

HMJr:

G:

I'm sure they'11 be delighted to come over, sir.

Yes, indeed I do, sir.
And, as I say, it's just like you might - might
say - well, Admiral King might say, "Gee, I've
got to get me twenty or thirty flying boats.
Can I get them in Canada?" Then they turn out
that they're out of date.
Yes, right. The - the point that they may bring
up is that we have the specifications for these

planes. We can go into production on these
planes, and we'd rather have them now than to be

delayed for six months or a year in getting
planes which would be better. I don' know about
that.

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-4HMJr:

I don't know, but as I understand it, they're

G:

Yes, sir. Well, I - I think Admiral Towers will

HMJr:

I'm sure he will, and I've got great confidence

G:

Right, sir.

HMJr:

Will you arrange it?

G:

Yee, I will, sir.

HMJr:

Thank you.

G:

Yes, sir.

starting in Canada from scratch.

have the answer to it.
in him.

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October 1, 1942
11:10 a.m.

FINANCING

Present: Mr. Bell

Mr. Harrison
Mr. Burgess

Mr. Brown
Mr. Spencer
Mr. Edwards

H.M.JR: Have you fellows had time to solve your

problems?

MR. HARRISON: Not yet.

H.M.JR: I guess you know we have got to borrow

four billion dollars. We would like to borrow as much
as we could outside the commercial banks, and we would

like to borrow it as cheaply as possible.

MR. HARRISON: That is a good program. (Laughter)

H.M.JR: There is the formula.
=

MR. HARRISON: May I ask what you estimate you

would have to raise again in November, if it is four
billion in October?
MR. BELL: It will be equally that in November,
and possibly four and a half, unless the tax notes
come in heavily. That would be borrowing, too, but I
am talking about a major one.

MR. BURGESS: In figuring four billion for October,
you are figuring some addition to the tax notes, a

half a billion or something like that.

MR. BELL: We figured that we would get four hundred

million in September, and we probably will get five hundred

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-2and fifty or six hundred; and three hundred and fifty
million dollars, we figured, each month thereafter.

That may be low, but we had to be conservative in our

estimates.

MR. BURGESS: That is in addition to the roll-over

of present taxes?

MR. BELL: There is no roll-over, except in a taxpayment month. That is net cash from the tax notes.
MR. BURGESS: We have just had a kind of a quick

look at this memo that Dan put up. We are trying to

look around it. The thing that, of course, is most

important is what you mentioned: methods of raising
money outside the banks. Charley and B.M. and I have
just been meeting with the Bankers Association in New

York for three days and getting a sample there. I
think the bankers are in very good spiritsabout doing
their job. I think they are all very anxious to see
additional steps taken to sell bonds outside the banks.

We were talking about that, B.M. and I, and wondering
whether more definite plans along that line could be

made, and wondering whether one way of approaching it
would be to say December 1 might be a good time. The
Community Chest that Tom Smith is worried about will be

out of the way - and the war chests.

H.M.JR: How much does the Community Chest raise

in the country, anyway?

MR. BURGESS: A hundred and fifty million.
MR. SPENCER: Yes, and they are folding in on
top of that seventy-five million on the war drives for
the various countries.
MR. BURGESS: I think December 1 might be a pretty
good date for a drive because you could say, "Give a
bond for Chirstmas.

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-3H.M.JR: What kind of a drive do you mean?
MR. BURGESS: I mean a public drive, all out,
with the Savings group and the Victory Fund group
and everybody, the kind they are doing in Canada.

While this motion picture thing and the other

attacks are attacks by single units, I think if you

had everybody working at once, at one time, for a twoweek shot so that everybody in the country was approached about getting bonds on that date, about once
every three or four months, it would be just twice as
effective.
H.M.JR: I had a talk with Governor Towers about

this drive business of his. When I told him something
of my problem, he seemed to think that the drive thing
was more or less out of the question. He said that
they did it every eight months; now they are going to
have to do it every six months. He just questioned

whether you worked everybody up to the peak of enthusiasm and then came back in two months and hit them

again. He doubted whether they would like it.
MR. BURGESS: You can't do it oftener than once
every three or four months.
H.M.JR: But the month of December would hit me
better than any suggestion that has been made yet.
MR. BURGESS: You really need the time between

now and December to work it up. It takes just about
two months to work it up. In some ways that is almost
the first decision to make, because then you want to

adapt your financing prior to that time to it, so you

don't cover the same ground, perhaps, that you would
then.

H.M.JR: I don't think - at least I don't see how
it would affect this next financing very much.

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-4MR. BURGESS: I don't think it would very much.
H.M.JR: It would the November.

MR. BURGESS: Yes, that is right.

H.M.JR: I am just thinking out loud.
MR. BURGESS: You would want to keep a big public
drive away in November.

MR. BELL: It might also have some effect on your
choice of securities in November. In other words, you
wouldn't want to choose the same kind of securities
you are going to put the drive on in December.

H.M.JR: I talked to Brown about this drive business.

I have been very skeptical of it. I don't think I want
to set any quota.

MR. BURGESS: I wouldn't set any quota, no.

H.M.JR: We are doing so much better on the payroll deduction plan, the E bonds, and the public knows just because we have not made our quota, people think

it is a failure.

MR. BURGESS: I was just showing some figures to

these fellows in the other room. I made some remarks
to the Economic Policy Commission at the Bankers Associa-

tion, and the figures - the percentage of the national
income that we are raising on selling bonds outside the
banks now, compared to the World War - and the percentages
are almost identical.
H.M.JR: I have never seen those.
(Mr. Burgess handed paper to the Secretary.)
MR. BURGESS: Keep that copy. The lower half of

the table gives the figures. The third line of the

lower half of the table shows the percentage of the

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-5national income that is absorbed by non-banking purchases of Government securities. In 1917 it was

two percent. In 1918 - that is the fiscal year - it

was fourteen point three; 1919, eighteen point eight.
Now if you jump over here (indicating), forty-one

point three, forty-two point nine, just a little better
than 1918. Then the estimates for 43, that is,
estimated on the basis of getting pretty close to a
billion of Series E, F, and G, will be nineteen point
six, compared with eighteen eight.

MR. BELL: That is non-banking?
MR. BURGESS: That is non-banking purchases of

Government securities - corporations and so on. So
we are absorbing as large a proportion of the national
income - now the national income is twice what it was
then.

MR. BELL: The borrowing is about three times.
MR. BURGESS: The only trouble is that the
expenditures are twice what they were then in proportion

to the national income. It would be a pretty good job
if we were financing World War I, but we are financing
a war that is twice as big.
MR. BELL: Sure, expenditures are four times.
MR. BURGESS: Yes, In terms of national income,

though, it is twice as large a part of the national

income. This coming year--

H.M.JR: This receipts - what do you mean?

MR. BURGESS: That is tax receipts. That, of course,
is way better. We are raising as good a proportion of

bonds as during the last war in spite of the fact that

our taxes are very much heavier. So from that point of
view it is a very good achievement.

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-6MR. HARRISON: But it has to be a lot better.
MR. BURGESS: It has to be better. If anybody
says we are not doing a job now, a real job, he has

not looked at the figures, that is all.

H.M.JR: Well, the August figures on the pay-roll
deduction - the percentage of deduction of those that
have the plans is up to seven and a half percent.
MR. BURGESS: That is darned good.

MR. EDWARDS: Do those figures include the tax

notes?

MR. BURGESS: Yes.

H.M.JR: It has been rising steadily.
MR. HARRISON: Have you any modern figures on the

redemptions?

MR. BELL: We have daily figures.
MR. HARRISON: Are they going up?

MR. BELL: They are going up a little because

of the increase in the outstandings.

MR. BURGESS: The percentage of outstandings.

H.M.JR: But the percentage, as I understand it,
is constantly going up.

MR. BELL: The percentage, yes, it went up a little

last month.

H.M.JR: Based on the outstanding?

MR. BELL: No, not based on the outstanding, but
based on your issues. It went up from about three to

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-7 three and a half - close to four percent of the amount

issued. The amount that we have redeemed up to the

29th of September for that month was thirty-three mil-

lion dollars; last month it was around thirty-two
million dollars, the month of August.

H.M.JR: And this was an income tax month. I

think that is - in an income tax month, I think it is

very low.

MR. HARRISON: What I have been a little fearful
of, and I have asked the Federal to check up on my
own company - we are an issuing agent, and each sub-

scriber gets a bond, say, once every month or once
every two months. Query, whether as we put more
pressure on them to increase the percentage of pay roll
a number of them aren't turning around and cashing in
the bond they get the previous month. The Federal

thinks there is evidence of that.
MR. BELL: That is right.

MR. HARRISON: So I have told them to make a guinea
pig out of my own concern - not sicking them on anybody

else - to see what dope they can give us on that.
that.

Now he thinks there is an increasing amount of

MR. BELL: I think you will find that a large
part of the redemptions in any given month is composed
of sixty-day bonds. People have just held them sixty
days and turned them in. If they get rid of those,
the redemptions will go down much further.

H.M.JR: Say that again.

MR. BELL: I think a large percentage of the re-

demptions in any given month is composed of bonds that
have only been out sixty days.

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-8MR. HARRISON: That rather supports the theory

that I have got.

MR. BELL: Yes.

H.M.JR: Well, how do you people want to work
today? How do you want to do this thing? Do you want
to ask me anything? Do you want to go over and see
the Fed?

Unfortunately both Haas and Murphy are home sick,
but there must be somebody available.

MR. BELL: Lindow went with us yesterday - if

you want to get into statistics or anything--

H.M.JR: When would you like to see me again?

MR. BROWN: There is one thing that I think we
would like to suggest that we suggested last time,

and that is that If a bond is issued as part of the

financing, I think - we think it is necessary that allot-

ment in full be made to others than non-banking subscribers, coupled with some limitations on sixty-day
deferred delivery, and that allotments to the banks
be then prorated on the balance. We think that on
that basis possibly the Treasury could afford to be

slightly more generous in the matter of interest rates,
because it would tend to get a larger percentage of the
issue than it would otherwise be the case out of the
banks hands. You are virtually making underwriters out
of the banks in that case.
We made that suggestion last time, but we all

feel, I think, strongly, that in the case of a bond

issue, which will have to be underwritten and a large
part of which will have to be taken in the banks at
preferential allotment, it be made outside the banking system.

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-9H.M.JR: How much? What amount, twenty-five

thousand, you mean?

MR. BROWN: No, total amount.

MR. BELL: Anybody outside of the banking system

comes in for, say, a million dollars subscription in-

stead of on a percentage basis, and he gets a million

dollars.

MR. BURGESS: Whereas with the tap issue now, it

is extending the principle of the tap issue to another
bond, say a two and a quarter. Say that if you are
not a bank and come in and get a full allotment, and
you get your interest from the day you buy it, perhaps,
and then the bank subscriptions would only be allotted
for the balance of your total and in proportion after
you had taken care of all the other fellows.
H.M.JR: You mean a fellow - say he has got an

insurance company or a manufacturing - say anybody

outside the banks subscribes to a million dollars, then

he will get a million dollars, then the banks will
be allotted on a prorata basis what is left?
MR. SPENCER: Allocation only to the banks.
MR. BURGESS: So they are really underwriters,

rather than--

H.M.JR: Would that satisfy the banks?
MR. BURGESS: I think so.

H.M.JR: Do you think they would like it?
MR. BURGESS: I think they would go along.

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- 10 MR. HARRISON: I think they would on a bond.

MR. BURGESS: I don't think on a short-MR. BROWN: Not a note or certificate.
MR. SPENCER: You could sell a great many short

issues.

MR. BELL: We didn't think it was necessary on
the
last issue because they were both strictly banking
securities.

H.M.JR: What is the matter with that, Dan?

MR. BELL: There is nothing the matter with it.
There is only one thing I think the banks might kick on.

They wouldn't know what their customers were subscribing

to until after the thing was pretty well along. They
wouldn't put in their subscriptions, I take it, until
they found out what the allotments were going to be.
Would they object to that, Randolph?

MR. BURGESS: I don't think so, not on a two and a
quarter percent bond which they regard as out at the

fringe of their taking.

MR. BELL: How about a two-percent bond?

MR. BURGESS: I think that would be another question,

because that is a bank bond. I am not sure but what they

would object a little on that.

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MR. HARRISON: I think it is a matter of fiscal
policy that is pretty well accepted throughout the
country, that we want to finance as much of this as
possible outside the banks.

Now, if you are issuing a bond in a lot of, say,
four billions and supposing you had all one bond for
these four billions and you had three billions of subscriptions direct from customers other than banks, then
you would give them the full three billions and the
banks would then get only the remaining billion. Whereas,
if you don't do that, you might end up with each crowd
getting just two billions and the banks getting more
than you want them to get.

I think that the fiscal policy for the good of the
country is worth the risk that you run of making a

few banks relatively unhappy - but they shouldn't be

unhappy.

MR. BURGESS: I think that is all right.
MR. EDWARDS: Danny, I think that if the - if you
and the Secretary decide about this big program in
December - of course, I am strongly of the opinion

that there is a very definite place in this picture
for this two percent bond, but my opinion is that that

ought to be reserved to do your November financing a substantial part of your November financing, in order

to do just what you said a while ago, to offer a different security in December. In other words, this two

percent bond in November would largely go into the

banks - a great deal of it.

Now, if you sell, say, a four or five year note

and a two and a quarter percent bond, you will get
some private money in that two and a quarter percent
bond, and then you will have this two percent bond left
as a vehicle to largely do your November job.
How does that sound to you?

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MR. BURGESS: In November you could do your tap

issue, which is insurance companies, largely; and your
two percent bond for the banks; and your certificate taking up some more money with the certificate.
MR. BROWN: I think there is a great amount of
private money, Mr. Secretary, to take your two and a

quarter percent, fully-negotiable bond, as against
taking a two and a half percent registered bond. I
think it makes it much easier to get those subscrip-

tions if they can be allotted in full. It would give

something for the Victory Loan Committee to work on.

MR. SPENCER: I think that is rather important -

to give them something to do now.

MR. BROWN: If you had, say, a two and a quarter

percent bond issue - I have no question at all that you

will get underwriters from the banks for much more than

the two billion. Whatever was taken by allotments in
full, which would have to be coupled with some sort of
a deferred delivery of sixty days, or something of
the sort, would keep just that amount of long-term bonds held to be long-term bonds - out of the banking system that much from the public.

MR. HARRISON: You are talking about the commer-

cial, not the mutual savings. There is an exception
there.

MR. BROWN: I would except the mutual savings but

not the savings departments in commercial banks. In

the Middle West, at least, the savings account is primarily the poor man's checking account. He puts his
money in there when he has got it, and when he has a

necessity he takes it out. It is not a thrift account.

They will have plenty of opportunity to get the two and
a quarter percent bonds by underwriting; they will go

for those. A great many of the smaller banks will try
to get the longest term Government bonds that they can

if they bear a high coupon rate. It is somewhat dangerous for them to get too many of them.

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- 13 MR. HARRISON: If that were true, I would see great
advantage in a note - four or five years - and a two and

a quarter percent bond, subscriptions to be allotted in
full to other than banks. Then I think you have got
a pretty good ticket for October.
MR. BURGESS: To think about what bond you would

use for the December 1 drive - I think you would use

your whole category, your savings bonds; but presumably

that ought to be a two and a half percent bond with a
coupon, wouldn't you think, Ned, a regular bond -

the one you are going to try to sell widely to indivi-

duals?

MR. BROWN: I think that is a minimum rate. You
ought to make it somewhat longer maturity than the tap

issue. In other words, not to--

MR. BELL: You would have to put them between the

67-72's, selling for a hundred and one, plus. You
would have to put it pretty close to that one.
MR. BROWN: You would have to put it--

MR. BELL: If it is negotiable it would probably
depress that a little.
H.M.JR: Couldn't you men take some of these

things under consideration? Do you want to talk with
the Fed?

MR. BURGESS: The only problem about talking with

the Fed is that the Open Market Committee isn't here -

Allan isn't here, or the others. Is Marriner here?
H.M.JR: Yes.

MR. BURGESS: I think there would be some point,
then.

H.M.JR: He has very definite ideas.
MR. BURGESS: I am surprised. (Laughter)

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- 14 -

H.M.JR: On this, very definite.
MR. BURGESS: I think we ought to see him, then.

H.M.JR: Have you people allowed time for tomorrow to stay over?
MR. BURGESS: We had not planned to.

H.M.JR: You only allowed one day?
MR. HARRISON: We did that only because we have

been getting through in one day.

MR. EDWARDS: Most of us have been away for about

a week, now.

MR. BELL: I told them I thought we could get

through in a day because I knew some of them had been

away, and--

MR. BURGESS: We can go to lunch at the Fed and come

back with you after lunch.
MR. BELL:

the hotel accomodations here are so bad.

H.M.JR: Unfortunately, I have such a bad-if you are going back - if you want to go back, O.K.
What is that train to Chicago?
MR. BROWN: Five forty-five; I am prepared to stay

over, however.

H.M.JR: Would four-thirty be too late?
MR. EDWARDS: My train leaves at six o'clock.

MR. SPENCER: Mine doesn't leave until later in
the evening.

MR. HARRISON: Four-thirty is all right with me.

H.M.JR: I will be ready at four-thirty.

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- 15 MR. EDWARDS: I can make my train.

MR. BROWN: Perhaps Dan can get me a priority on

the evening train. I could take that 80 that I won't
be hurried for the train.

MR. EDWARDS: Some of us have been away for about

a week, but Doctor Burgess, up in New York, told me
that he thought that the business of the Treasury
Department was the most important thing in this country,

so I will do anything you say.

MR. BURGESS: So it must be true.

H.M.JR: He is right, isn't he?
MR. EDWARDS: That is what he told me - that I

"had better get on down there; that is the most impor-

tant thing I know of."

MR. HARRISON: I think he is right.

H.M.J JR: Would that be all right with you - fourthirty?

MR. SPENCER: Four-thirty is all right with me. I
will stay over tomorrow if it is necessary.
H.M.JR: Will you talk wit th them - fix them up?
If they are bashful about calling Eccles, could you do
that for them?

MR. BELL: Sure. They are not bashful about that,

but I will be glad to.

H.M.JR: And maybe you could tell them - take them
into your room and tell them how Eccles feels, before

you go over.

MR. HARRISON: Mr. Secretary, is there any funda-

mental objection to our appealing to Danny for a
priority when we come down? I can never get a night
train any more from New York to Washington.

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- 16 -

H.M.JR: That is perfectly proper.
MR. EDWARDS: I came down on a day coach.

MR. HARRISON: It is just impossible to get it.
MR. BROWN: I have an upper going back.
MR. HARRISON: Even a week in advance - they won't

let me know until the night the train goes.

MR. BROWN: I came down all right; as far as I

know I have got an upper going home.

H.M.JR: Charlie Bell looks after this?
MR. BELL: We have some arrangement - it does not
always work one hundred percent, but we can do some-

thing on that, I think.

MR. EDWARDS: I came down on a day coach, and I

have got to go home from here on a day coach.
MR. BELL: We will see what we can do.
H.M. JR: Fix them up.

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42

3:28 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Cox is on a special assignment at the White
House, but his secretary said she can have him

call you in just a couple of minutes.

HMJr:

Well, that's all right.

Operator:

Right.

HMJr:

Thanks.

3:30 p.m.
HMJr:

Mr. Coxt

Oscar
Cox:

Yes, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

Cliff Mack is sitting here.

C:

Yeah.

HMJr:

and was telling me that if you decide - or

the President decides that you go over to LendLease, he'd like very much to sit down with you
and with me.

C:

Right.

HNJr:

Because he thinks there's tremendous opportunity
for improvement over there.

C:

HMJr:

I think so too.
He's got cases here now where things - where the
Russians have been trying to get some boilers
since 1940.

C:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And there are all kinds of examples that he's

given me where they've been months and months

and months, and he thinks the thing could be
shortened up tremendously.

-2-

C:

HMJr:

Well, that would be perfectly swell if he'd be
willing to do that.
And I've told him to again do this job which we did
once before, showing how many days a thing is held
in each place.

C:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Do you remember that job?

C:

Yes, I do.

HMJr:

That started something.

C:

Right.

HMJr:

C:

HMJr:

But I think if you go over with the help of - the
material that Cliff Mack could give you, I think
you could - we could help you make quite a record
in the first thirty days.

Well, that's swell. I appreciate that. I'd like
to talk to his even if I don't go over.
Well, I - I think even if you don't, there should

be a little meeting because why do we have to wait
for a newspaper

C:

HMJr:

That's right.

....to stir this up and wash the dirty linen in

public?
C:

Yeah, I agree with you.

HMJr:

Check?

C:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

Thank you.

C:

All right.

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October 1, 1942
4:00 p.m.
CANADIAN DOLLAR POSITION

Present: Admiral Towers
Commander Strauss

Mr. White

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR: Admiral, just for old-time's sake if
you will put me on the right track - I get in on the
dollar situation, and your people want to buy thirty

million dollars worth of planes in Canada, PBY boats,
and I raised the question, two questions, which have

not been answered to my satisfaction.

One, why place an order in Canada for PBY boats

to go to England, which I don't expect to answer,

you may want the other which

but can't understand
to.that
Butthese
thingare
you
I
- theyissay
only
our second best planes; and if they are only the

second best planes, why place an order for second best

anything. I asked them to prepare you.

ADMIRAL TOWERS: I got the word. I actually have

been in a meeting of the Joint Aircraft Committee ever
since I got your message, but I have had officers look-

ing into the situation.

As to the first, there was a Presidential directive

that the resources of Canada should be considered as

part of our general pool. Replying in rather a negative
way, there was an attempt on the part of the farm bloc

in Congress to amend the Lease-Lend bill, which amendment,

if passed, would have prohibited the buying of farm
products from outside the United States for Lease-

Lend purposes, which amendment was defeated. We found

45

-2out that there were Canadian manufacturing facilities
that were not going to be usefully employed, and we went
into it very carefully with the Canadian Government.

Boeing, Vancouver, had a contract from the Canadian
Government - ith the Canadian Government to manufacture - or, rather, to assemble PBY airplanes from parts
manufactured by Consolidated, San Diego. Therefore,

that company was in a position to go into the actual
production of PBY-5 aircraft.

I can find nothing that in any way seems to even
infer that there was any prohibition against our placing
orders in Canada. I do know that the Bureau of Ships
bought some two dozen corvettes for the British - bought
them from Canada. I have the contract numbers if you
would be interested in them.
H.M.JR: You mean they placed it in Canada for
Great Britain - Lend-Lease?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Lend-Lease, yes, ten screw and

fifteen single-sorew purchased by the Bureau of Ships
from War Supplies, Limited, against U.K. requisition

No. 11244, contract No. DA-NOBS-273 and 274, dated July
11, 1942.

MR. WHITE: I can comment on that. Those corvettes

which I think the Admiral is referring to now are the
same corvettee about which we raised the question on

this very same issue. The answer, if I remember correctly, was that they thought that U. K. was not going
to get those corvettes, that the United States was
going to use them. They, therefore, became what in

effect was an American order placed in Canada, against

which, I take it, there is absolutely no objection,

and every desire to do; whereas these planes in question,

if our understanding is correct - and I am not entirely
certain from the statement - are intended for U.K.
COMMANDER STRAUSS: There may have been reverge

English here. These planes may have been placed with
the idea that we would use them and then they become

46

-3Lease-Lend, whereas the corvettes are moving just the
opposite direction.
ADMIRAL TOWERS: There is more to this. Actually
we have placed a contract through War Supplies, Limited,
for one thousand SP-2-C airplanes, Curtiss dive bombers.
We have regarded Canadian production facilities as being
in the common pool, and we are required in our set-up,
which was prepared by WPB, the eight series, to indicate
where the planes being produced by the several companies

will go, but that shifts from month to month. Actually,
it was only recently that we decided just when we would
discontinue the production of PBY's in the Consolidated
plant. We wanted to make space in Consolidated for

heavier production of B-24's, Liberators, and of our
four-engine boats.

When we set up this plan to procure these two
hundred PBY's from Boeing, I could not have said
definitely back in those days whether they would come

to us or come to the British. The British want a

continuing supply of these PBY's, and Consolidated is
going out of production on them.
Now, we don't want a continuing supply. We propose to discontinue them with Consolidated next June about June. And there would be no other source of
supply after we made that arrangement. There was no
other source of supply to meet the needs of the British.
H.M.JR: This is PBY-5?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Yes, they are all PBY-5's. There
may be some A's; that A is an amphibian.

Now then, as to the quality of the PBY-5 - I am
sorry I did not have time to pick up a clipping taken

from the New York Times of a week ago last Sunday concerning statements made by one of the most eminent

British air authorities, a civilian named Masefield,

on the qualities of planes being produced throughout

47

-4-

the world in the different categories. That state-

ment was made, as I said before - was published a week
ago last Sunday and made just previously. Among the

planes listed as being the - the plane listed as being
the finest of flying boat types, patrol plane, was

this same plane, the PBY-5, and no others were mentioned.

H.M.JR: I saw a criticism of Masefield's report

in another paper.

ADMIRAL TOWERS: Yes, you will always see criticisms.

The British like it very much. The Dutch are still

buying them. The Australians have some and want them.
They are very useful planes for special purposes.

H.M.JR: Let me just - I would rather know what
Admiral Towers thinks than anybody else on this sub-

ject. That is why I asked to see you. Just let me

ask you this question. How long would it be before
these PBY-5's would be coming off the line in Canada approximately how long would it take?

ADMIRAL TOWERS: My recollection is that they

produce at the rate of about twenty a month, and that

production begins about March 1943. That could be
checked with the A.K. schedules.
H.M.JR: Roughly.

=

ADMIRAL TOWERS: Yes, roughly twenty a month.

H.M.JR: Well now, supposing you needed some

planes, would these PBY-5'8 fit into your program any-

where in the Atlantic or the Pacific, wherever we are I mean, is the plane up to the standards that you will
require from '43 on? That is the thing I want to know.
ADMIRAL TOWERS: At the present time Consolidated

is producing them at the rate of sixty a month, most
of which are going into our service; some of them are

48

-5going to the British - an average of about twenty a
month, I think, and the British desire to continue
to get this type of plane at the rate of about twenty
a month.
H.M.JR: Let me put it another way. What is going
to take the place of this PBY'5 for ourselves?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Nothing is going to take the

place of it for a long time, and by that I mean we will

have scores of squadrons which will be operating the
PBY-5. We are just getting into production now on the
four-engine flying boat, also by Consolidated, and a
slightly larger twin-engine flying boat than the PBY-5
is being produced by Martin. But they supplement our
PBY-5's rather than replace them.

Now, years from now they will be replacing them,
but at the present moment they are merely supplementing.

H.M.JR: But the Martin two-engine flyer is an

improvement over the PBY-5?

ADMIRAL TOWERS: Yes, it is a better plane.

H.M.JR: Now why couldn't you place an order in
Canada, say, for the Martin?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: We could, but we could not get

them in time to meet the needs of the British.

H.M.JR: You mean it would be postponed delivery?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: The Boeing Vancouver Company

knows all about building this type of plane. They have
been building them for a year and a half now from parts,
fabricated by Consolidated, but I don't mean by that

that they have just been doing an assembly job. It is
forgings and extrusions, and so forth, that they have

been getting through Consolidated.

H.M.JR: And it would take them longer to put

together a Martin?

49

-6ADMIRAL TOWERS: Oh, very much longer. They are

going to really build planes completely. They are not
going to get any parts from Consolidated for these

planes.

H.M.JR: Let me ask - could they build a four-

engine Consolidated?

ADMIRAL TOWERS: Eventually, yes, but the first
one would probably come out of the door some eighteen
months from now, whereas the British want these planes
to come out early next spring.
COMMANDER STRAUSS: Our people say they could not

build a four-engine job without substantial additions
to facilities, which they don't propose to do under
this contract.
ADMIRAL TOWERS: I imagine that is true. They
could build one there presuming they could get those

facilities.

H.M.JR: Could they begin to make a delivery of

twenty a month beginning approximately in March?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Of the PBY-5's?

H.M.JR: Yes.
ADMIRAL TOWERS: That is their schedule, and I

have not heard anything indicating they are not going
to come close to meeting it.
H.M.JR: And knowing all this you recommend this?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: I do.

H.M.JR: You do?

ADMIRAL TOWERS: I do. I know of no other source

of supply of the flying boats to the British that they

50

-7indicate they need, and we believe they need them. I
went over it very thoroughly with both the Air Minister
and the Admiralty when I was in London. We went over

this very matter in the latter part of May.

H.M.JR: Would the occasion possibly arise that you
might need fifty or a hundred of these for ourselves?
ADMIRAL TOWERS: It might possibly arise, but I

will say this, that when we were discussing the
question of just when we would discontinue the production of PBY-5's in Consolidated I went over the figures
of the estimated needs and deliberately added one hundred more, because the demands always increase, so we

have got to use up that hundred before-H.M.JR: At San Diego, you mean?

ADMIRAL TOWERS: Yes, sir, so I have a hundred in

excess of currently indicated needs, but I am sure
those needs will be confronting us before we get the
boats, because that is always the case.
now.

H.M.JR: In view of what you say, I approve it
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Thank you.

H.M.JR: You have my approval as of now.
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Our plans envisage having thousands

of aircraft manufactured in Canadian plants.

H.M.JR: That is all right. Nobody that I can find
in Washington will say to me that it is an Administration

policy that we place orders in Canada, knowing before

hand that they are going to go to England. Am I right,
Harry?

MR. WHITE: That is my understanding, and paid for
by the United States.

51

-8UnitedH.M.JR:
States. That is what I mean, paid for by the
ADMIRAL TOWERS: Well, I can't find any such

document, either, but I can find in the records of
to amend a bill to prevent

countries being delivered
directly to England, and the amendment was defeated.

purchases Congress where from foreign they tried

It clearly indicates the desire of Congress.

H.M.JR: My only responsibility is the so-called

Hyde Park Agreement, which happened to be my brain

large, dollars;
you see;
going
to child. have
Is too
it growing
tooare
they
many
and
if so, should
the
thing

be reviewed? That is what we are watching, asking the
various departments to let us know before they have put
orders, which
extremely
well.they have done, and they have cooperated

Now this other thing that I stepped into, I did as
an American citizen - is this good for the general effort?
I knew that if I could see you for fifteen minutes I
could satisfy myself one way or the other, and I have.

COMMANDER STRAUSS: Is the Canadian dollar balance

growing very rapidly?

MR. WHITE: Not rapidly, but it is growing. It

will grow more rapidly next year probably.

H.M.JR: And very much in the room - Sir Frederick

Phillips said he might have to go up. The relationship

between the Canadian and English Treasuries seems to be

rather critical. But it is our job to watch all of them,

and what I am trying to do is to keep all of the United

Nations' Treasuries going as long as possible against the

day that I will have to go to Congress and ask for direct
appropriations to finance their governments. I think
the longer I can put that day off, the better, because
that is going to be a hard day for me. I mean, to pay
their running expenses of their governments.

52

-9COMMANDER STRAUSS: Then some Congressman is

going to want to know why they have to have champagne

in the embassies. (Laughter)

H.M.JR: Yes, as well as I do to ours.
ADMIRAL TOWERS: May I call attention to the fact

that by utilizing these existing facilities in Canada

we have saved our own Government many millions of dollars,
because had we not used them we would have had to create

those facilities in this country.

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October 1, 1942
4:50 p.m.

FINANCING

Present: Mr. Bell
Mr. Burgess

Mr. Brown

Mr. Harrison

Mr. Edwards
Mr. Spencer

H.M.JR: What have you all been doing?
MR. HARRISON : B.M. is the reporter today.

H.M.JR: "PM"? (Laughter)
MR. HARRISON : B.M.

MR. EDWARDS: I wrote it and nobody else can

read it.

Mr. Secretary, this is what I wrote - if I can

read it.

We recommend the sale of two billion two-percent
bonds, maturing in March, 1950.
MR. HARRISON: Fixed maturity.

MR. EDWARDS: Fixed maturity - or two billion,
two and a quarter-percent bonds, 58-'56; and two
billion, one and a half percent notes, September, 1946.

H.M.JR: Say that last over.
MR. EDWARDS: Two billion, one and a half-percent
notes, September, 1946.
H.M.JR: September '47?

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-2MR. EDWARDS: September '46. These are right in

line with the prevailing rates. We suggest that the
allotment of subscriptions of bonds, not the notes,

other than banks, be made in full; subscriptions by
banks to be prorated for any balance not taken by the
others.

MR. BELL: Regardless of the issue?
MR. EDWARDS: Yes.

MR. BURGESS: Whether a two or a two and a quarter.

MR. EDWARDS: With respect to the two and a half
percent tap issue, we recommend that it not be reopened

at this time; but if it is decided to have the sales

campaign in December, we recommend that this issue be

reopened not later than November 1, possibly as early

as October 20.

H.M.JR: If we don't have a sales campaign?
MR. EDWARDS: If we do.

H.M.JR: If we do have one in December?
MR. EDWARDS: If you wanted to open it and sell

some of them and get way ahead of your campaign.

H.M.JR: You don't want to use in your campaign -

not exactly that issue.

MR. BELL: They have something else there.
MR. EDWARDS: Increase the weekly bill offering

to four hundred and fifty million per week, beginning
October 21. That is when your present turn-over takes

place. We think it is all right to sell an additional

five hundred million of the certificates on November 1,
when that turn-over takes place.
And there is a recommendation that plans be started
now for an intensive campaign beginning December 1 to

reach the current income of individuals. For this

55

-3purpose there should be used the united efforts of the
War Savings Staff organization, the Victory Fund
Committees, and others.

The individuals should be offered a choice of E,
F, and G bonds, and one or more market issues. That

is in place of this tap issue. One of these issues

should bear a two and a half percent coupon and should

be a fully-negotiable bond with restrictions as to

bank ownership.

This program will require extensive organization,
leadership, and some expenditure of funds. We would
think it advisable to secure the services of some outstanding organizer for a period of a month or six

weeks before and during the campaign, to coordinate and

direct the effort.

We recommend the selling of series F bonds to

commercial banks receiving savings deposits; maximum,
one hundred thousand per year, and an aggregate hold-

ings not to exceed twenty-five percent of the savings

deposits of the subscribing institutions.

In other words, a bank that had five hundred
thousand savings deposits, we think they ought to be
limited to an aggregate purchase of one-fourth of that

amount, and we recommend that F bonds, instead of the

G bonds, for this reason; that the F bond is a registered bond paying interest every six months, and if the
small bank that gets that bond - or buys that bond
when you get that income the first thing they do with
it will probably be put it in income, and at the end

of five years, if they have to sell that bond, they
will have a bond that is only worth ninety-four eighty,
and they will be hollering about you causing them a

loss.

MR. BURGESS: That is the G bond?

MR. EDWARDS: If they buy the G bond. Further-

more, it will involve quite a complicated tax situation
for these little banks who do not operate on an accrual

56

-4basis, but instead, operate on a cash receipts and disbursement basis, and It would complicate their situation
about making income tax returns. Furthermore, we are
quite certain that the federal Reserve bank and the
Comptroller of the Currency would require - at least
require the National banks, and the supervisory
authority would probably require State banks, not to

take all of that income - not to take all of that

coupon in the income, but instead to take only that
portion as would keep the bond redeemable for its
face value. And that also would bring about a very
complicated situation, and might cause dissatisfaction
among the banks.

We think it would be much more preferable to sell
the F bonds, which is on a discount basis.

MR BELL: It is on a current earning basis.
MR. EDWARDS: It is on an earning basis, but they
would not have to write that increment up, but instead,

could carry it until maturity, or could carry it until
such time as they sold it, and then whatever interest

they received they could take it into their earnings.
MR. BELL: But they carry the F bonds in what you
think the supervising authorities would require them

to carry G bonds?

MR. EDWARDS: That is right. In other words, the
F bond would make a much easier transaction for them

to carry. It wouldn't be nearly 80 involved a situation.
MR. BELL: I understand you have done this, thinking
that it will make the country banks happy.
MR. EDWARDS: Yes, we know it to be a fact - in

fact, Mr. Eccles brought that matter up today in the
discussion on it; that there are a great number of

small country banks who, although they are cooperating

in your war savings bond sales, and all of that, nevertheless, they have - they feel now, and they always

57

-5have felt that they have been somewhat discriminated
against with respect to building and loan associations
and mutual savings banks, who are permitted to buy
these bonds; and these commercial banks are not. Yet
they have in their bank the same type and character of

deposit in their savings deposits that you find in
these other institutions.

MR. BELL: Particularly the building and loan
associations, I suppose; if they were classed that way.
MR. EDWARDS: Some of them will buy them. You

will sell them some bonds.

H.M.JR: B.M., if you have time before you leave,
could you dictate that?

MR. BELL: If he will give me that, I will dictate
it. I can
read it.
MR. EDWARDS: Then the only other thing we have

here is that we are opposed, at the present time, to the
sale of long-term two and a half percent bonds to banks.

H.M.JR: I think this is a very interesting program.

Have you fellows talked with Eccles?
MR. BURGESS: At some length.

MR. EDWARDS: I think Mr. Eccles will probably not

be so bitterly opposed to this.

H.M.JR: He wants a two percent bond this time.
MR. HARRISON: Yes, he would be opposed to our

alternative. He wants, definitely, the two percent.
We don't feel so very strongly about it.
H.M.JR: Are there any dissenting views from this?
MR. HARRISON: Not at all.

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-6MR. EDWARDS: Only this, Mr. Morgenthau, in be-

half of myself, I am not so strong on this drive business - this campaign business.
H.M.JR: Why?

MR. EDWARDS: I think you have one going on here

practically twenty-four hours every day, now, and I

just don't know - there are just certain things - of

course, I spent some time up here, and I know how this
War Savings Staff crowd feels; and regardless of how
much I love my dear associates and banker friends here,

I just can't permit myself to take any stand or get
involved in anything that is going to bring about any

disunion in the household.

MR. BROWN: I think that represents, Mr. Secretary,
a sort of compromise point of view in which we could
all agree. I think some of the members of the group
feel that there ought to be a merger of the Victory Fund
and the War Savings Committee.

I think that Mr. Edwards - and I know I felt that
you needed a continuous pressure to sell bonds to be

paid for out of income, to which the others all agreed.
But the only organization doing that, today, is the War

Savings organization, and we felt there was a danger that

if it was supervised or put under the direction of any
other organization, it would lose its punch; and that

what was needed was continuous pressure rather than a

succession of drives. But I feel, and the rest felt, I
think, that just as the Red Cross got Cole to come down
here to run its drive, and this year it is getting

Walter Gifford to come down here and do it, we were

thinking of John Stevens, the president of the Prudential,
or Micky Cleary, president of the Northwestern, or some-

body with organizing ability, and driving ability, to

try and run this one month's bond sales, which would be

of a type designed to get money primarily out of individuals. That would not mean any superseding or loss of
efficiency on the part of the War Savings organization.

59

-7I don't know - I think that states the view of
all of us, wi th the possible exception of Mr. Edwards,

who perhaps knows more about it - or does know more

about it - than the rest of us, who feel they are so

damned independent that they would resent any tempo-

rary assistance, even from - direction from anybody out-

side, even if he was only going to be here a maximum

period of sixty days or ninety days.

H.M.JR: I don't think a man coming in for sixty
days would learn it.
MR. BROWN: I don't know - I think he could do a

good deal.

H.M.JR: ,personally, don't see how they can do
any more on the pay-roll deduction than they are. I
think they are doing a swell job, and the thing is

growing by leaps and bounds.

MR. HARRISON: Still weak on the F and G's, though.
H.M.JR: What?

MR. HARRISON: We are still a little weak on the
F and G's, aren't we?

H.M.JR: True, but that is not the kind of money

we want.

MR. BELL: As I understand it, this campaign

would not interfere with the pay-roll deduction plan,
but combine all forces in this campaign to sell all
kinds of securities that we have on the shelf at that
time; but the pay-roll savings program would go right
along in the groove that it is now going.
MR. BURGESS: This would even attempt to step it
up further.

MR. BELL: You might sell a lot of Series E bonds
to individuals, even though they were buying them through
pay-roll savings - sell them under this campaign.

60

-8MR. HARRISON: And it would add one more thing,

that is, the long-term two and a half negotiable

market bond.

MR. BELL: I say, everything you had on the shelf
at that time would be in the program.
MR. SPENCER: Would be on sale in that program.

H.M.JR: The kind of man who knows this thing there was this man from the Manufacturers in New York what is his name?
MR. HARRISON: Madden.

H.M.JR: He did a beautiful job in New York City

on the house-to-house campaign.
MR. HARRISON: Yes.

MR. EDWARDS: Don't misunderstand me, Mr. Secretary,

I think it would be fine, and if everybody works together and pulls together - but this Savings Staff is
a big
and
I--thing, and it took a long time to build it up,
H.M.JR: I think they are pretty good.

MR. EDWARDS: I would be very hesitant to take any

attitude,
myself, that was going to in any way upset
that.

H.M.JR: You and I feel, to be frank, somewhat the
same way, and I don't-MR. EDWARDS: Somehow or other we have not been

very successful in mixing water and gasoline with this
thing.

H.M.JR: No.

MR. HARRISON: I wouldn't think - at least it
wasn't meant in suggesting such a person to come

61

9down here, that he would have to change the chemical

composition of either one of these committees at all,

but rather it is a question of trying to coordinate
and lead both groups in a coordinated direction in
selling everything you have got on your shelf.

Now, it is a little bit better to be able to do

that if you can. In my insurance business I can't
send an agent out to sell ordinary life insurance
and tell him he can't sell term insurance. If he has
to turn around and say, "I am sorry, I can't sell you
that; you have got to go to my friend Bill Jones, -

there has got to be some place there where, if a salesman goes out and you are trying to cover every kind of
thing you have got on your shelf - where a salesman
goes out, he won't have to say no to somebody. That
is what I am afraid of with the present setup.
If a man says, "No, I don't want G bonds, but I
do want two and a half percent long-term, an agent
would have to say, "Sorry, I belong to the War Savings
Committee; you have to go to the Victory Fund Committee,"
or vice versa.

Now, the thought that we had - at least, that I
had, and the suggestion about some man to coordinate
it, was to see how best to overcome that kind of

difficulty.
tion.

H.M.JR: Well, anyway, give it serious considera-

MR. BURGESS: You don't - on your savings bonds you
don't go on a dead level. One month you have Madden's
campaign in New York, another month you have the motion

picture fellows to high-light it. You have got to fill
the imagination of the people.

Now, what we are suggesting is that in December,
when people are buying Christmas gifts for each other,
that you get the whole thing together and make a fresh

drive with a new point of view on it at that time.

62

- 10 H.M.JR: I have already had the war bond people
in this afternoon and passed this idea on and asked

them to think about it; so I have already passed this

thought along to them.

MR. BURGESS: We discussed it a little at the
Board and they liked it.

H.M.JR: There is this conflict-MR. BURGESS: I may say that these bankers met,

and this sort of thing came up, and there are a great
many people who feel very strongly that there are a
lot of people that are not buying bonds now, who could
be
reached by such a campaign - who just aren't being
reached.

H.M.JR: Well-MR. HARRISON: Just wait until the War Savings
Staff takes my insurance agents and puts them to work.
They are all ready for you as soon as you want them.
H.M.JR: Haven't we taken them?

MR. HARRISON: They haven't begun yet. I talked
to Gamble this afternoon. They had a plan in mind
and hoped to talk with me next week.
MR. BURGESS: This would be a plan by which those

one hundred and fifty thousand people could join in

a big effort.

H.M.JR: As I say, I did pass it on to four of
them that were in this afternoon, and asked them to
begin studying it. And then Bell and the Victory Fund
people get together on it. Will I be able to have that
in the morning?

MR. BELL: Yes, tonight.
H.M.JR: Anyway, for your time and effort, my thanks.

63

Agenda for Secretary's Advisory Group
October 1, 1942
OCTOBER FINANCING

Total amount of offering four billion dollars.
I.

What type or types of securities should the Secretary offer,

II. If more than one issue, should he offer, say, two issues
combined for an aggregate of four billion dollars and allot
each issue on a basis of subscriptions received. If we had
adopted this procedure in September we would have allotted

approximately one billion dollars on the certificates and
approximately two billion on the notes instead of approximately 1-1/2 billion each.

III. Should the Secretary make it an open-end issue by making
allotments as the subscriptions are received, interest
to start to run the day following the date of announcement,
permitting the Secretary to close the books at any time
,

after the total subscriptions reach four billion dollars,

or should he take all over-subscriptions.

IV. Should we reopen the 2-1/2 percent tap issue or have another
issue of that character for others than banks.

64
NOVEMBER AND FUTURE FINANCING

I.

Should we increase the weekly bill offering, say on
October 21st, from $400 million to $450 or $500 million?

II. In rolling over the certificates maturing November 1st
in the amount of $1,500 million, should an attempt be
made to raise some additional cash by offering, say

$2 billion and possibly $3 billion of certificates
maturing one year hence.

III. Should there be a large issue for $5 or $6 billion,

with a nation-wide drive beginning say, around December
1st.

IV. Should the 2-1/2 percent "G" Savings bonds be sold to
banks for savings deposits investments.

V. Should the 2-1/2 percent tap, when reopened, be sold
to banks up to a certain percentage of savings deposits.

65
THE UNDER SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

October 1, 1942.

RECOM ENDATIONS OF THE BANKERS' GROUP

I.

To raise the 4 billion dollars, offer 2 billion dollars of

2% bonds with a definite maturity on March 15, 1950, or

2 billion dollars of 2-1/4% bonds of 1953-56 and 2 billion

dollars of 1-1/2% notes of September 15, 1946.

Allot subscriptions of the bonds other than to banks in
full; subscriptions by banks pro-rated for any balance
not taken by others.

II. 2-1/2% tap issue not to be reopened at this time, but if it
is decided to have the sales campaign in December we recommend this issue be reopened not later than November 1st,

and possibly as early as October 20. This is in order to
get it out of the way before the December drive.
III. Increase weekly bill offerings to $450 million beginning
October 21st.

IV. O.K. to sell an additional $500 million on the certificate
of indebtedness for November 1, making a total issue at

that time of $2 billion.

V.

No objection to selling Series F bonds to commercial banks
receiving savings deposits, provided of course that the

maximum holdings of such bonds is confined to $100,000 per
year and not to exceed 25% of savings deposits of sub-

scribing institution. This recommendation is in order to
satisfy the country banks which appear to be dissatisfied

with the present arrangements whereby their competitors,
mutual savings banks and building and loan associations,
can buy all savings bonds.

VI. Opposed at the present time to the sale of long-term 2-1/2%
bonds to banks.

POPDEFENSE

BUY
UNITED
STATES

SAVINGS

SONDS

66

-2-

VII. Recommend that plans be started now for an intensive
sales campaign beginning December 1st to reach the cur-

rent income of individuals. For this purpose there

should be used the united efforts of the War Savings
Staff organization, the Victory Fund Committees and
others, and the individuals should be offered a chance
to acquire E, F and G bonds and one or more marketable
issues. One of these issues should bear a 2-1/2%
coupon and should be a fully negotiable bond with
restrictions as to bank ownership. This campaign
program will reguire extensive organization leadership
and some expenditure of funds. We think it advisable
to secure the services of some outstanding organizer
for the period of a month or six weeks before and
during the campaign to coordinate and direct the effort.

67

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE Oct. 1, 1942
TO

THE SECRETARY

FROM

PETER H. ODEGARD

Mr. Cairns is to get in touch with Mr. Pettrillo today,
if possible, concerning the recording of the song EVERYBODY
EVERY PAYDAY.

Your suggestion that the other side of the record carry the
infantry song heard over the Lucky Strike Star Parade last week

creates a complication. This infantry song has been rejected by
the War Department and is, therefore, in no sense official.
Moreover, there may be some criticism of the Treasury plugging
a song having no immediate relation to War Bonds or taxes.

At a meeting in Mr. Cairns office this morning it was
agreed that we would be in a stronger position if, instead of the
infantry song, we could re-issue ANY BONDS TODAY on the reverse
side of a record carrying EVERYBODY EVERY PAYDAY.

We should like to carry on our negotiations in these terms
if agreeable to you.

Identical letters mailed to: (all Califo

V
La

Miss Frances Dee, Route #1, Camarillo,
IS Joan Leslie, 222 North Rose, Burbank
Miss Lynn Bari, 9245 Doheny Road, Los Angeles
Mr.Beverly
Walter Pidgeon,
710 North Walden Drive,
Hills
Mr.Beverly
Adolph Hills
Menjou, 722 North Bedford Drive,

Miss
Hedy Lamarr,
723 North Rexford Drive,
Beverly
Hills
Mr. Basil Rathbone, 10728 Bellagio Road, Bel Air
Mr.Los
Robert
Stack, 411 South Ardmore Avenue,
Angeles
Miss
Janet
Gaynor, 10424 Valley Spring Lane,
North
Hollywood
Miss Bette Davis, 1705 Rancho Avenue, Glendale

Mr.Beverly
ChesterHills
Morris, 906 No. Beverly Drive,

Mr.Studio
Hugh City,
Herbert, 12321 Moorpark Street,
Miss Llona Massey, 120 Medio Drive, Los Angeles
Mr.Hills
Fred Astaire, 1121 Summit Drive, Beverly
Mr. John Payne, 8800 Evansview Drive, Hollywood
Miss Jane Wyman, 4326 Londonerry View, Hollywood
Mr.West
Lynne
Overman, 909 Tiverton, Brentwood,
Los Angeles

(38
Claire
Trevor,
8426
De Gilcrest
Longpre,Drive,
Hollywood
MISS
Ginger
Rogers,
1605
Beverly
Hills
Mr. Andy Devine, 6947 Kester Avenue, Van Nuys

Miss Larraine Day, 250 Cliffwood Drive,
Brentwood Heights

Miss
Vera Zorina,
Beverly
Hills 9614 Wilshire Boulevard,
Miss
Dinah Shore, 1402 Havenhurst Drive,
Hollywood
Mr.North
BingHollywood
Crosby, 10500 Camarillo Drive,
Miss Ginny Simms, 3875 Alomar Drive, Van Nuys
Miss
Gene Tierney,
Beverly
Hills 2200 Bowmont Drive,

Miss Martha Scott, c/o Walter 0. Heinze, 8511
Sunset Blvd., Los Angeles
(cont.)

-2-

(Mr. Nigel Bruce, 701 North Alpine Drive,

69

Beverly Hills

Mr. Ralph Bellamy, 609 North Canon Drive,

Beverly Hills
Miss
Virginia Gilmore, 520 Kelton Drive,
Westwood

Mr. Dick Arlen, 9514 Wilshire Boulevard,
Beverly Hills
Mr. Walter Abel, 267 Conway, West Los Angeles
Miss Irene Dunne, 461 North Faring Road, Holmby

Hills, Los Angeles

Mr. Charles Laughton, 14954 Carona Del Mar,
Santa Monica

Miss Peggy Diggins, 520 Gilcrest Drive,
Beverly Hills

70

OCT 1942

Dear Mr. Cagney:

Now that your September tour for the Treasury
is ending, I should like you to know how much
appreciate all the devoted effort which you have
given to the War Savings campaign in the past month.
I

It was a strenuous assignment, and I know that

it must have been tiring for you at times. Yet you

showed untiring zeal and unflagging good humor

throughout the tour, and your spirit was an example

to the people who saw and heard you.

I should like you to know that your work for

us in September has been a real contribution toward

the winning of the war and that all of us at the

Treasury are deeply grateful.

Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Mr. James Cagney,
2043 Coldwater Canyon,

Beverly Hills, California.

TRG:eh

Del. to Ben Franklin 3:00
10/1/42 - Sent "Air Mail"
copy and
list - Drary
Copies
to Thompson

CONFIDENTIAL
71

UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS - SERIES 3

Comparison of September sales to date with sales during the
same number of business days is August and July 1942

(At issue price is thousands of dollars)
September

August

July

:

:
$

:

sales

Complative sales by business days
:

& September $
daily

:

#

Date

September as

percent of August

:

September 1942
1
2

3

4

5

8

9

10
11
12

14
15

16
17

18
19

21
22
23
24
25

26

28
29
30

Month

11,634
14,748
18,305
17,804
19,166

$ 11,634

$ 14,044

26,382
44,687
62,491
81,657

$ 15,821

36,222
50.797
63,785
86,789

30,701
47.523
77.320
95,044

72.8
88.0
98.0
94.1

49,400
13,295
16,430
19.573
9,584

131,057
144,352
160,781
180,354
189,938

111,748
128,176
154,981
164,866
180,787

116,643
139,390
164,161
183,238
209,787

117.3
112.6
103.7
109.4
105.1

35,544
10.717
21,855
17,621
16,476
10,384

225,482
236,199
258,054
275,675
292,151
302,535

197,143
215.903
225,481
254,163
263,900
281,550

225,532
243,938
284,111
296,344
327,712

114.4
109.4
114.4
108.5
110.7
107.5

40,445
9,714
20,352
27,075
12,368
22,230

342,980
352,694
373,046
400,122
412,490
434,720

297,075
313,101
322,982
353,504
367,195
383,303

339.951
358,135
376,396
394,984
405,679
438,256

115.5
112.6
115.5
113.2
112.3
113.4

41.530
17,874
15.731

476,250
494,124
509.855
509,855

398,234
415.563
427,740
453,967

455.706
473.962
488,173
506,118

119.6
118.9
119.2
112.3

-

frice of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
ouroes

261, 766

82.8%

October 1. 1942.

All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account
of proceeds of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures
to totals.have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add

CONFIDENTIAL
72

UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS - SERIES F AND e COMBINED

Comparison of September sales to date with sales during the
same number of business days in August and July 1942

(At issue price is thousands of dollars)
&

August

July

:

September

:

:
$

:

:

sales

applative sales by business days
:

Date

# September
daily

September as

, DE Cent of August

:

September 1942
1
2

3

4

5

8

9

10
11

12

14
15
16
17

18
19

21

22
23

24
25
26

28
29
30

Month

$ 7,528

$ 7.528

$ 12,222

9,811
9.397
10,678
10.713

$ 12,597

17.339
26.735
37,414
48,127

28,810
41,258
54,105
71,552

21,986
32,442
49,175
62,561

18,550
6,072
6,279
7,235
4,342

66,678
72.749
79,029
86,263
90.606

84,777
92.566
106,782
112,171
120,974

84,413
101,585
124,568
141,618
162,232

78.7
78.6
74.0
76.9
74.9

13,347
4,915
12,776
9,917
6.334
3,361

103.952
108,867
121,643
131,560
137,893
141,255

127,375
137.119
140,372
153,496
158.309
168,415

176.590
191.991
205,833
221,147
230,842
252.731

81.6
79.4
86.7
85.7
87.1
83.9

15,820
5,653
12,959
14,445
5.799
9,108

157.075
162,728
175,687
190,132
195,931
205,038

176,681
182,842
186,207
196,715
202,690
211,968

262,178
278,505
293,679
308,077
316,893
338,137

88.9
89.0
94.4
96.7
96.7
96.7

18.735
9.603
11,453

223.773
233.376
244,829
244,829

220,311
226,844
232,698
243,878

350,522
365.305
381,036
392,744

101.6
102.9
105.2
100.4

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ffice of the Secretary of the Treasury.
Division of Research and Statistics.

61.66
60.2
64.8
69.2
67.3

October 1, 1942.

ources All figures are deposite with the Treasurer of the United States on account
of proceeds of sales of United States savings bonds.
Notes Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add
to totals.

CONFIDENTIAL
73

UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS - TOTAL

Comparison of September sales to date with sales during the
same member of business days is August and July 1942

(At issue price in thousands of dollars)
Operative sales by business days
8
$

:

$ September
daily

:

September as

$

September

August

$ 19,162

$ 19,162

$ 26,267

$ 28,418

24,558
27,702
28,482
29,880

43.720
71,422
99.904
129,784

65.032
92,055
117,890
158,342

52,687
79,964
126,495
157.605

67.2
77.6
84.7
82.0

67.950
19.367
22,709
26,807
13,926

197.734
217,101
239.810
266,617
280,544

196,524
220,742
261,763
277.037
301,761

201,056
240,974
288,729
324,656
372,020

100.6
98.4
91.6
96.2
93.0

48,890
15,632
34,631
27.538
22,809
13.745

329,434
345,066
379.697
407,235
430,044
443.789

324,518
353,022
365,852
407,659
422,209
449.965

402,122
435,929
467.599
505.257
527,186
580,443

101.5
97.7
103.8
99.9
101.9
98.6

56,266
15,366
33.311
41,521
18,167
31,338

500,055
515,422
548.733
590,254
608,421
639.758

473.756
495,943
509,189
550,219
569,885
595.271

602,129
636,640
670,075
703,062
722.572
776,393

105.6
103.9
107.8
107.3
106.8
107.5

60,265
27,477
27,184

700,023
727.500
754,684
754,684

618,546
642,406
660,438
697,255

806,228
839,266
869,209

113.2
113.2
114.3
105.2

July

#

$

sales

1

Date

percent of Amend

$

ptember 1942
1
2
3

4

5

8

9

10
11

12

14
15

16
17

18
19

21

22
23

24
25
26

28
29
30

Month

-

fice of the Secretary of the Treasury.
Division of Research and Statistics.

900,863

73.0%

October 1, 1942.

area: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account
of proceeds of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note:
Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily aid
to totals.

Sales of United States savings bonds 74

CONFIDENTE

September 1 through September 30, 1942
Compared with sales quota for same period

(At issue price in millions of dollars)

11

12

14
15

16

25
26

18.6
6.1
6.3
7.2
4.3

66.7
72.7
79.0
86.3
90.6

58.1
67.8
76.7
84.4
90.1

114.8
107.2
103.0
102.3
100.6

67.9
19.4
22.7
26.8
13.9

197.7
217.1
239.8
266.6
280.5

201.4
236.6
270.1
305.0
329.3

98.2
91.8
88.8
87.4
85.2

225.5
236.2
258.1
275.7
292.2
302.5

272.7
288.2
307.6
327.2
350.1
365.4

82.7
82.0
83.9
84.3
83.5
82.8

13.3

104.0
108.9
121.6
131.6
137.9
141.3

99.7
105.0
112.1
119.2
125.7
130.5

104.3
103.7
108.5
110.4
109.7
108.3

48.9
15.6
34.6
27.5
22.8
13.7

329.4
345.1
379.7
407.2
430.0
443.8

372.4
393.2
419.7
446.4
475.8
495.9

88.5
87.8
90.5
91.2
90.4
89.5

343.0
352.7
373.0
400.1
412.5
434.7

399.6
415.7

15.8

436.2
457.1
401.4
497.4

85.8
84.8
85.5
87.5
85.7
87.4

5.7
13.0
14.4
5.8
9.1

157.1
162.7
175.7
190.1
195.9
205.0

141.0
147.0
155.2
163.4
171.0
176.6

111.4
110.7
113.2
116.3
114.6
116.1

56.3
15.4
33.3
41.5
18.2
31.3

500.1
515.4
548.7
590.3
608.4
639.8

540.6
562.7
591.4
620.5
652.4
674.0

92.5
91.6
92.8
95.1
93.3
94.9

532.7
549.2
570.0

89.4
90.0
89.5

18.7
9.6
11.5

223.8
233.4
244.8

188.7
195.5
205.0

118.6

60.3

119.4
119.4

27.5
27.2

700.0
727.5
754.7

721.4
744.7
775.0

97.0
97.7
97.4

131.1
144.4
160.8
180.4
189.9

35.5
10.7
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24

91.5
85.5
83.1
81.8
79.4

49.4
13.3
16.4
19.6
9.6

22

23

143.3
168.8
193.4
220.6
239.2

34.5
55.5
81.0
98.3

40.4
20.4
27.1
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%

77.2
83.1

17.8
19.2

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44.7
62.5
81.7

n

as

9.4
10.7
10.7

14.7
18.3

10.4

to

17.3
26.7
37.4
48.1

$ 14.9

19

quota
108.75
104.2
101.1
105.1
114.0

to

9.8

$ 11.6

18

date

Daily

: Sept. 1 Sept. 1 : to date

$ 7.5

$ 11.6

17.6
16.5

17

: to date
$ as & of

to

Sales

$ 7.5

8

9

10

Daily

Sept. 1

to

Quota,

date
6.9
16.6
26.4
35.6
42.2

28

41.5

29

17.9

476.3
494.1

30

15.7

509.9

:

8

:

5

$

4

date

:

3

date

Sept. 1

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:

2

to

to date $
as s of

1 Sales

$

1

to

:

Daily

Sept. 1

:

Sept. 1

Date

Sales

total
:

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Actual sales

Series I and 6
Quota,
Actual sales

:

Series

quote
77.9%
76.5
80.5

4.9

12.8
9.9
6.3
3.4

of

date

date

$ 19.2

$ 19.2

$ 21.8

24.6
27.7
28.5
29.9

43.7
71.4
99.9
129.8

51.1
81.9
116.6
140.5

quote
88.15
85.5
87.2
85.7
92.4

October 1, 1942.
of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
Actual sales figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of sales of
United States savings bonds. Figures have been rounded and will not necessarily add to totals.
Note: Quota takes into account both the daily trend during the week and the monthly trend during the month.

75

Note:

The Secretary sent this letter and
document to the President the evening of
October 1. The next morning, after
thinking the matter over, he asked Mrs.
Brady, in the absence of Miss Tully,
to let him have the material back, as
he had decided to withdraw it.

76
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

October 1, 1942

My dear Mr. President:

I thought you might be interested in
reading the enclosed document which shows

those instances in which you have communi-

cated directly with the Congress or its
committees during the consideration of tax

bills.
Yours sincerely,

The President,
The White House.

77

PRESIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS

ON

TAX BILLS

78

REVENUE ACT OF 1938

79

REVENUE ACT OF 1938

(H.R. 9682, 75th Cong., 3rd Sess.)
January 14-25, 1938

Ways and Means hearings.

March 17-22, 1938

Finance Committee hearings.

April 13, 1938

President's letter to Senator

Harrison and Representative
Doughton on pending revenue

bill recommends against repeal

of undistributed profits tax

and reduction of capital gains

tax.

April 14, 1938

Message to Congress on relief
and unemployment. Refers to
President's prior recommenda-

tion for legislation to remove
inequities in undistributed
profits tax then pending in
Congress.

April 25, 1938

Message to Congress recommending

legislation to terminate reciprocal
tax exemptions as to public securi-

ties and official salaries.
April 29, 1938

Message to Congress on monopolies

recommends attention to increas-

ing intercorporate dividend tax,
to further graduating corporate
income tax according to size, and
to retention of modified undis-

tributed profits tax.
May 28, 1938

Bill became law without the approval of the President.

80

THE PRESIDENT DISCUSSES

THE PENDING TAX BILL.

April 13, 1938
"Dear Mr. Chairman:

The Revenue Bill as it passed the House and the
Revenue Bill just adopted by the Senate differ in many

particulars. While differences in detail can, I am

confident, be ironed out in conference committee with-

out sacrifice of fundamental principles, in two major
respects important principles of fairness in taxation
are in issue. I wish to bring these two matters briefly
to your attention at this time.
"1. Capital Gains. For many years the country has
accepted without question the principle of taxation in

accordance with ability to pay. This principle applies
to all forms of additional wealth accruing to individuals.

There is no fairness in taxing the salaried man and the
merchant upon their incomes and taxing at far lower rates

the profits on the capital of the speculator. Nor is it

fair to subject the salaried man and the merchant to
progressive surtaxes upon their earnings and at the same

time to tax capital gains, large or small, at the same
flat rate, to the particular advantage of the taxpayer

who otherwise would pay much higher surtax rates. In

other words, as a matter of principle, if additional wealth
in the form of earnings from business, such as dividends,
interest, or wages, is taxed at progressive rates then
capital gains should also be taxed at progressive rates.

"The present law treats capital gains very favorably-more favorably than dividends, Interest, or salaries
earned over similar periods of time. The advantage given
to capital gains under the present law, as compared to
ordinary income, in many cases runs as high as 50 per cent.

Under the Senate Bill this preferential advantage is further
increased by reducing the tax to a flat rate, no matter how
large are the taxpayer's capital gains or how large his
other income. For example, a man who makes a capital gain
in a given year amounting to $5000 would have to pay a tax

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81

of not more than 15 per cent; while at the same time the
man who makes capital gains of $500,000 in a given year

will also pay a tax of not more than 15 per cent. Desirable as it is to foster business recovery, we should not
do so by creating injustices in the tax system, particularly injustices at the expense of the man who earns his

income--injustices to the advantage of the man who does not.

"2. Corporation Taxes For many years the Congress
has sought to devise a fair system for taxing incomes from
business, whether received by individual proprietors, by

partnerships, or by corporations. Legally the corporation
is a separate entity from the individuals who own It. Hence,
while individual proprietors and partners are taxable at
the usual normal tax and surtax rates upon the entire incomes of their businesses, whether taken out of the busi-

ness or left in it, the corporate charter sets up a Chinese

wall which prevents the earnings from being taxed to the
shareholders who really own them, unless those earnings

are actually distributed to the shareholders in the form
of dividends. Thus a wide and basically unfair disparity
between the taxation of individual proprietors and partner-

ships on the one hand, and of corporations on the other is
created, unless some provision for taxing undistributed
corporation earnings appears in the law.

"At present, corporations are taxable on their earnings at a normal rate of from 8 to 15 per cent, whether

the earnings are paid out in dividends or not. If divi-

dends are declared, the individual stockholders who get
the earnings pay an additional normal personal income
tax. If their incomes are large enough, they pay progressive
surtaxes also. Consequently, the Treasury stands to lose
where the corporation does not distribute earnings, whereas
if earnings were distributed, the Treasury would collect
additional taxes on the personal income tax returns of the
stockholders. Moreover, with no undistributed profits tax,

the partnership or individual proprietor is discriminated
against as compared to the corporation. Finally, with no
undistributed profits tax, the avoidance of surtaxes through
the use of the corporation becomes a readily available de-

in thehigher
surtax brackets, who
vice,legally
seek for
those
persons
to keep their net personal incomes down for
taxpaying purposes, and to hide their actual profits by
leaving them in the corporations they own.

82

-3"For these reasons and others, I recommended the

undistributed profits tax in 1936, and the Congress
adopted it. Modifications shown by experience to be
desirable, in particular the exemption of small corporations, should be made, but the principle of the tax is
sound, and it should be retained in our tax system.
Otherwise we grant a definite incentive to the avoidance

of personal income tax payments through methods which are

legal, but which are contrary to the spirit of the principle that every citizen should pay taxes in accordance
with his means. It would be particularly undesirable to
eliminate the undistributed profits tax at this time, in
favor of a flat rate of tax, representing an increase in

the tax burden on many small corporations, and on all
corporations which follow established American practices
of dividend distribution; and a decrease in the tax burden
of many large corporations, which have hoarded their earnings in the past, and would be encouraged to resume the

practice in the future.

"The Bill as passed by the House gives a flat exemp-

tion from the undistributed profits tax to those smaller
corporations which make net earnings up to $25,000 per

year. Out of the total of 200,000 taxpaying corporations,
approximately 176,000 are exempted from the undistributed

profits tax under this provision. This means that any
young and growing corporation earning up to $25,000 per
year can in the discretion of its directors set aside all

its earnings for growth and expansion. Moreover, under the
House Bill, corporations with incomes in excess of $25,000
can also accumulate reserves for legitimate purposes by
paying an additional tax of only from 1 to 4 per cent on
undistributed earnings.

"There are many other provisions in the two bills
which will improve the equity of the tax system, and the
efficiency of its administration. Some pending amendments
grant unjustifiable exemptions from a fair general rule,
complicate the law, and should be eliminated. It is most
important, however, to hold fast to that which is good in
the tax system. Equal taxation of incomes of similar size

83

-4and equal taxation of corporations and individual taxpayers are axiomatic. The repeal of the undistributed
profits tax and the reduction of the tax on capital gains
to a fraction of the tax on other forms of income strike
at the root of fundamental principles of taxation.
"Business will be helped, not hurt, by these suggestions.

"Faithfully,

"Honorable Robert L. Doughton,
Chairman, Ways and Means Committee,

House of Representatives,
Washington, D. C.

"(An identical letter was sent to Honorable Pat Harrison,
Chairman, Finance Committee, United States Senate,
Washington, D. c.)"

(The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt,
1938 Vol., p. 214-217.)

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RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS

DESIGNED TO STIMULATE FURTHER RECOVERY.

April 14, 1938

"It should be noted in fairness that since
January 1, 1937, the President has recommended to the
Congress only four measures of major importance to the
business of the country.

"1. Legislation to stabilize agriculture. A comprehensive law was approved by me two months ago.

"2. Legislation to end serious loopholes in our

personal income tax laws. This was enacted last
summer.

"3. Legislation to put a floor under wages and a
ceiling over hours of labor in industry, and
"4. Tax legislation to remove inequities from
the undistributed profits tax, especially as
they affect the smaller type of business. Both
this measure and the third are still under consideration by the Congress:

"The record speaks for itself. No other measures

affecting business have been proposed.

"All the energies of Government and business must

be directed to increasing the national income; to putting
more people into private jobs; to giving security and the

feeling of security to all people in all walks of life.
"I believe that improvement in Government and
business practices must go hand in hand with recovery -

that they should be, and will be, a definite aid to re-

covery. While I do not wish in this message to overemphasize some of the needs, I do want to say that I
believe that we must Be definitely aware of certain of
them - the elimination of future tax-exempt bonds of all

85

-2kinds of Government agencies; the subjecting of Government salaries and wages of all kinds to Federal and
State income taxes; a serious undertaking to solve
the railroad problem and the problems of monopolistic
practices and price fixing. These are no new subjects;
nor have I anything to add to them except the statement

that their solution will help and not hurt business."

(The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt,
1938 Vol. , p.221 at pp. 224,225.)

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A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CONGRESS

TO TERMINATE TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.

April 25, 1938
"The Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the
United States, approved in 1913, expressly authorized
the Congress 'to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from

whatever source derived.' That is plain language.
Fairly construed, this language would seem to authorize
taxation of income derived from state and municipal, as
well as federal bonds, and also income derived from
state and municipal as well as federal offices.

"This seemingly obvious construction of the Sixteenth
Amendment, however, was not followed in judicial decisions

by the courts. Instead, a policy of reciprocal tax im-

munity was read into the Sixteenth Amendment. This resulted in exempting the income from federal bonds from
state taxation and exempting the income from State bonds
from federal taxation.
"Whatever advantages this reciprocal immunity may

have had in the early days of this nation have long ago
disappeared. Today it has created a vast reservoir of
tax exempt securities in the hands of the very persons
who equitably should not be relieved of taxes on their
income. This reservoir now constitutes a serious menace
to the fiscal systems of both the states and the nation
because for years both the federal government and the
states have come to rely increasingly upon graduated
income taxes for their revenues.

"Both the states and the nation are deprived of

revenues which could be raised from those best able to
supply them. Neither the federal government nor the
states the receive any adequate, compensating advantage for

reciprocal tax-immunity accorded to income derived

from their respective obligations and offices.

"A similar problem is created the from
on
and the
employees.
number
of and
state federal
officers federal greatLThe
by army exemption
state persons

or taxation of a of

pay rolls of both state and federal government has

87

-2increased in recent years. Tax exemptions claimed by
such officers and employees - once an inequity of relatively slight importance - has become a most serious
defect in the fiscal systems of the States and the
nation, for they rely increasingly upon graduated income
taxes for their revenues.

"It is difficult to defend today the continuation

of either of these rapidly expanding areas of tax exemption. Fundamentally our tax laws are intended to apply

to all citizens equally. That does not mean that the

same rate of income tax should apply to the very rich
man and to the very poor man. Long ago the United States,
through the Congress, accepted the principle that citizens
should pay in accordance with their ability to pay, and

that identical tax rates on the rich and on the poor actually worked on injustice to the poor. Hence the origin

of progressive surtaxeson personal income as the individual personal income increases.

"Tax exemptions through the ownership of government

securities of many kinds - federal, state and local have operated against the fair or effective collection

of progressive surtaxes. Indeed, I think it is fair to

say that these exemptions have violated the spirit of the
tax law itself by actually giving a greater advantage
to
those with large incomes than to those with small
incomes.
"Men with great means best able to assume business

risks have been encouraged to lock up substantial por-

tions of their funds in tax-exempt securities. Men

with little means who should be encouraged to hold the
secure obligations of the federal and state governments

have been obliged to pay a relatively higher price for
those securities than the very rich because the tax-

immunity is of much less value to them than to those whose

incomes fall in the higher brackets.

"For more than twenty years Secretaries of the
Treasury have reported to the Congress the growing evils

88

-3of these tax exemptions. Economists generally have regarded them as wholly inconsistent with any rational
system of progressive taxation.
"Therefore, I lay before the Congress the statement
that a fair and effective progressive income tax and a
huge perpetual reserve of tax-exempt bonds cannot exist
side by side.

"The desirability of this recommendation has been
apparent for some time but heretofore it has been assumed

that the Congress was obliged to wait upon that cumbersome
and uncertain remedy - a constitutional amendment - before

taking action. Today, however, expressions in recent
judicial opinions lead us to hope that the assumptions
underlying these doctrines are being questioned by the
court itself and that these tax immunities are not inexorable requirements under the Constitution itself but

are the result of judicial decision. Therefore, it is

not unreasonable to hope that judicial decision may find

it possible to correct it. The doctrine was originally
evolved out of a totally different set of economic circumstances from those which now exist. It is a familiar
principle of law that decisions lose their binding force

when the reasons supporting them no longer are pertinent.

"I, therefore, recommend to the Congress that effective action be promptly taken to terminate these taxexemptions for the future. The legislation should confer
the same powers on the states with respect to the taxation
of federal bonds hereafter issued as is granted to the
federal government with respect to state and municipal
bonds hereafter issued.

The same principles of just taxation apply to tax
exemptions of official salaries. The federal government

does not now levy income taxes on the hundreds of
thousands of state, county and municipal employees. Nor

do the states, under existing decisions, levy income taxes
on the salaries of the hundreds of thousands of federal

89

-4employees. Justice in a great democracy should treat
those who earn their livelihood from government in the
same way as it treats those who earn their livelihood
in private employ.
"I recommend, therefore, that the Congress enact
legislation ending tax exemption on government salaries

of all kinds, conferring powerson the states with respect
to federal salaries and powers to the federal government
with respect to S tate and local government salaries.
"Such legislation can, I believe, be enacted by a

short and simple statute. It would subject all future
state and local bonds to existing federal taxes; and it

would confer similar powers on states in relation to
future federal issues.

"At the same time, such a statute would subject
state and local employees to existing federal income
taxes; and confer on the states the equivalent power
to tax the salaries of federal employees.
"The ending of tax exemption, be it of government

securities or of government salaries, is a matter, not

of politics, but of principle."

(The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt,

1938 Vol., pp. 295 - 299.)

90

RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CONGRESS

TO CURB MONOPOLIES AND THE
CONCENTRATION OF ECONOMIC POWER.

April 29, 1938

'(6) TAX CORRECTIVES. Tax policies should be

devised to give affirmative encouragement to competitive
enterprise.

"Attention might be directed to increasing the inter-

corporate dividend tax to discourage holding companies and
to further graduating the corporation income tax according
to size. The graduated tax need not be so high as to make
bigness impracticable, but might be high enough to make

bigness demonstrate its alleged superior efficiency.

"We have heard much about the undistributed profits

tax. When it was enacted two years ago, its objective
was known to be closely related to the problem of concentrated economic power and a free capital market.

"Its purpose was not only to prevent individuals

whose incomes were taxable in the higher surtax brackets
from escaping personal income taxes by letting their

profits be accumulated as corporate surplus. Its purpose was also to encourage the distribution of corporate

profits so that the individual recipients could freely
détermine where they would reinvest in a free capital

market.

"It is true that the form of the 1936 tax worked a
hardship on many of the smaller corporations. Many

months ago I recommended that these inequities be removed.

"But in the process of the removal of inequities, we
must not lose sight of original objectives. Obviously
the nation must have some deterrent against special
privileges enjoyed by an exceedingly small group of

91

-2individuals under the form of the laws prior to 1936,
whether such deterrent take the form of an undistributed
profits tax or some other equally or more efficient
method. And obviously an undistributed profits tax has
a real value in working against a further concentration
of economic power and in favor of a freer capital market."

(The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt,
1938 Vol. , p. 305 at pp. 318-319.)

92

REVENUE ACT OF 1941

93

REVENUE ACT OF 1941

(H.R. 5417, 77th Cong., 1st Sess.)
April 24-30,

May 1-9, 12-28,
1941

May 1, 1941

Ways and Means hearings.

Letter to Representative

Doughton from the President
recommending additional taxes
of $3,500,000,000 to be based

upon ability to pay.

July 31, 1941

In a letter to Chairman Doughton
the President stated that he
favored the Treasury's suggestions, as explained in a memoran-

dum from Secretary Morgenthau,

that the pending revenue bill
include a provision requiring
the filing of mandatory joint

returns and an equitable excess

profits tax. The President also

suggested lower income tax exemp-

tions, and the making of simplified
low-income returns through post
offices.
August 8-23, 1941

Finance Committee hearings.

September 20, 1941
(12:00 p.m.)

Bill approved by the President.

94

"THE WHITE HOUSE,

Washington, May 1, 1941.
"Hon. R. L. Doughton,
Chairman, Ways and Means Committee,

House of Representatives,
Washington, D. C.

"My Dear Mr. Chairman:

"Secretary Morgenthau has recommended that three and

one-half billion of additional taxes should be levied during
the coming year to defray in part the extraordinary defense
expenditures.

"This total represents the minimum of our revenue requirements. I hope that you and the other members of your
committee will act favorably on his goal.
"You will recall that in my Budget message this year,
I suggested a financial policy aimed at collecting progres-

sive taxes out of a higher level of national income. I

urged that additional tax measures should be based on the

principle of ability to pay. This still is my view.

"I am confident that your committee will recommend

legislation specifically aimed at making the Federal rev-

enue system evasion-proof and so devised that every indi-

vidual and every corporation will bear its fair share of
the tax burden. The income tax cannot fix the tax liability

of individuals and corporations with equity as long as the
tax base is defined to exclude substantial and significant
elements of income.

"I hope your committee, with the help of the Treasury,

will formulate a tax bill which will convince the country
that a national-defense program intended to protect our
democracy is not going to make the rich richer and the
poor poorer.

"I am sure that you and I are agreed that defense is
a national task to which every American must contribute in accordance with his talents and treasure and that the people of
the United States are gladly willing to make whatever sacrifices

may be necessary to strengthen the common defense.

"Very sincerely yours,

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT"

(Ways and Means Hearings on Revenue Revision of 1941, Vol.1, p.477)

95

"THE WHITE HOUSE,

Washington, July 31, 1941.
"Wy dear Bob:

"Because of some uncertainties which seem to have developed

in regard to the position of the Treasury Department in regard
to some provisions in the tax bill as reported out by the Ways

and Means Committee, I asked the Treasury Department for a

clarifying letter, and I think it is only fair to send this

to you. I enclose a copy of Secretary Morgenthau's letter to

me and also an appendix showing examples of corporations which

would largely escape excess-profits taxes under the bill.
"I am sure that I make it clear that the Treasury Department does not approve of mandatory joint tax returns except
on the condition of granting substantial relief to earned
income of the husband and wife. In this I heartily concur.
But the committee draft leaves out the proviso altogether.

"You and Jere Cooper have talked over the problem of the

excess-profits tax in its relationship to the omission in the
bill of application of this tax to certain types of corporations. These corporations may be making 20 or 30 or 50 per

cent on their equity capital. It is my definite opinion that

they ought to contribute to the cost of our great defense
program far more heavily this year than last year or the

year before. But just because they happened to have made

equally large profits in recent years, they are called on

to contribute no more to the national defense under the
proposed bill than they did before. That seems to me clearly

a discrimination in their favor.

"There is one other subject which I did not have a chance

talk with you about. It relates to lowering the exemptions in the lower brackets. I know that very few tax experts
agree with me, but I still think that some way ought to be

to

found by which the exemption of a single person should be

reduced to $750, with a provision for a straight simple payment of some small contribution to the national tax income
through some simple agency and on some simple form.

"In the same way I think that the married exemption
should be reduced to $1,500, again with a simple method of
paying the tax through a simple agency and on a simple form.

96

-2"Further, I am convinced that the overwhelming majority

of our citizens want to contribute something directly to
our defense, and that most of them would rather do it with
their eyes open than do it through a general sales tax or

through a multiplication of what we have known as nuisance
taxes. In other words, most Americans who are in the lowest
income brackets are willing and proud to chip in directly,

even if their individual contributions are very small in
terms of dollars. After all, the majority of all Americans

are in these lowest brackets.

"One other thought: Perhaps your committee will

think it worth while to study the filing of low-income returns through the machinery of the post offices. This will

undoubtedly save a good deal of the cost of collection under
the present system. These simple returns could be sworn
to before the local postmaster, who, of course, would have
to be authorized to administer the necessary oath.
Very sincerely yours,
Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Hon. Robert L. Doughton,
Chairman, Ways and Means Committee,

House of Representatives,
Washington, D. C. If

(Cong. Rec., August 4, 1941, p. A4004)

97

"THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY,

Washington, July 31, 1941.
"Ny dear Mr. President:

"You have asked me to indicate the position taken by the
Treasury Department during the consideration of the present

tax bill with regard to (1) the mandatory joint-tax-returns
provision, and (2) the excess-profits-tax provision.
"1. Mandatory joint-tax returns: The Treasury indicated
to the Ways and Means Committee its conditional approval of

mandatory joint-tax returns, the condition being that substantial relief is simultaneously granted to earned income
of both husband and wife. No substantial relief is afforded
by the provisions of the pending bill from the resulting in-

creased tax in those cases where husband and wife contribute

through their labor to the family income. Therefore, in this
important respect the pending bill is inconsistent with the

Treasury's suggestion.

"2. Excess-profits tax: The Treasury has consistently
adhered to the position that the excess-profits tax should
apply to profits in excess of a reasonable return on invested
capital. Many corporations between 1936 and 1939 (the base
period) earned average profits far in excess of a reasonable

normal return. Nevertheless, the pending bill exempts all
such earnings from excess-profits taxation unless they are
more than 95 percent of the average profits earned in the
1936 to 1939 period. Therefore, in another important respect
the pending bill is inconsistent with the Treasury's clearly
announced purpose.

"Some of the reasons for the Treasury's position are:

"(a) The highly prosperous, well-established corporation

which has been making 30, 40, 50 percent or more on its in-

vested capital has a greater ability to pay taxes than a
corporation which has been earning only 3, 4, or 5 percent
on its invested capital, even though the dollar incomes of
the two companies are the same. Congress has established

the principle of taxation in accordance with ability to pay
so far as individual income, estate, and gift taxes are concerned. The Treasury advocates the application of this

principle to corporations as well as to individuals. Taxation of corporations in accordance with ability to pay calls

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-2for higher taxes on the profits of those corporations which
have the higher rates of return on invested capital.
"(b) The corporation which has been making a high rate
of return in the period from 1936 to 1939 is given, by the
existing law, a competitive advantage over newly organized
concerns or those struggling to establish themselves. The
older corporations which have been earning high profits are
riven a much greater rate of return free of excess-profits

tax than are their newer competitors. The effect is to

confirm monopolies and to protect well-established prosperous
businesses against competition.

"(c) If we are to expect all classes of society, including

laborers and farmers, to accept the sacrifices of the emergency
period and not to press for every possible dollar of advantage,
they must be convinced that burdens are being distributed according to ability to bear them and that no one is making
unreasonably large profits. The imposition and enforcement

of a true excess-profits tax will thus help to prevent inflation.
Faithfully yours,
Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

The President,
The White House"

(Cong. Rec., August 4, 1941, pp. A4004-A4005)
"EXAMPLES OF CORPORATIONS ESCAPING EXCESS-PROFITS TAXES

"The way in which the present law and the committee's
tentative plan leave exempt large amounts of excess profits

is illustrated by the following actual examples:

"A. After paying all taxes an automobile company made
during the base-period years of 1936 through 1939 approxi-

mately 25 percent. Practically all (95 percent) of this`
amount can be earned and yet be free from excess-profits

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-3tax under the present law and under the committee plan.
In 1940 the earnings of this concern, after the payment

of taxes, will be approximately 26 percent of its invested
capital under the present law.

"B. The earnings of a manufacturer of tractors with
nearly $50,000,000 of invested capital averaged, after all
taxes, approximately 18 percent of invested capital during
1936-39, which amount will be free of excess-profits tax
under the present law and the committee's tentative plan.
"C. Similarly, a company which has practically a

monopoly on one of the important defense materials had
earnings, after taxes, during the base period years averag-

ing approximately 19 percent of its 1940 invested capital,
which it can continue to earn free of excess-profits tax.

"D. A large manufacturer of beverages can continue to
earn free of excess-profits tax over 25 percent of its 1940
reported equity capital.
"Thus large amounts of the kind of profits which are

commonly defined as excess profits and were taxed as such

under the 1918 act are free from excess-profits tax under
the present law and the committee plan.
July 30, 1941. If

(Cong. Rec., August 4, 1941, p. A4005)

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REVENUE ACT OF 1942

101

REVENUE ACT OF 1942

(H.R. 7378, 77th Cong., 2nd Sess.)
March 3-31;

April 1-17, 1942

Ways and Means hearings.

April 27, 1942

Message to Congress urging

heavy taxes and the limitation of incomes to $25,000

net after taxes, in order
to curb inflation.

July 23-31;

August 3-7,
10-14, 1942

Finance Committee hearings.

September 7, 1942

The President sent a message

to Congress on the rise in the

cost of living and referred to

his seven point program. He

stated that point 1, a fair tax

program, still waits upon

Congressional action. The

President requested Congress

to take action to stabilize

the cost of living by the first

of October. On the same date
the President explained his

message in a radio talk to the
nation.

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REVENUE ACT OF 1942

(H.R. 7378, 77th Cong., 2nd Sess.)
March 3-31;

April 1-17, 1942

Ways and Means hearings.

April 27, 1942

Message to Congress urging

heavy taxes and the limitation of incomes to $25,000

net after taxes, in order
to curb inflation.

July 23-31;
August 3-7,

Finance Committee hearings.

September 7, 1942

The President sent a message

10-14, 1942

to Congress on the rise in the

cost of living and referred to

his seven point program. He

stated that point 1, a fair tax

program, still waits upon

Congressional action. The

President requested Congress

to take action to stabilize
the cost of living by the first

of October. On the same date
the President explained his
message in a radio talk to the
nation.

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MESSAGE TO CONGRESS ON THE

CONTROL OF THE COST OF LIVING.

April 27, 1942.
"Relying on past and present experience, and leaving
out masses of details which relate more to questions of

method than to the objective itself, I list for the

Congress the following points, which, taken together,
may well be called our present national economic policy:

"First. To keep the cost of living from spiraling

upward, we must tax heavily, and in that process keep

personal and corporate profits at a reasonable rate, the
word 'reasonable being defined at a low level.

"In the first item, legislation is necessary, and

the subject is now under consideration in the House of
Representatives. Its purpose is to keep excess profits
down and, at the same time, raise further large sums for
the financing of the war.

"On this subject, I believe that the objective can be

attained through tax processes. We are now spending, solely
for war purposes, the sum of about $100,000,000 every day

of the week. But before this year is over that rate of

expenditure will be doubled. This means that a sum equal
to more than half of the entire national income will be

spent in the war effort. Almost the whole of these billions
is being and will be spent within the United States itself.
"Profits must be taxed to the utmost limit consistent
with continued production. This means all business profits

not only in making munitions but in making or selling anything else. Under the proposed new tax law we seek to take

by taxation all undue or excess profits. It is incumbent
upon the Congress to define undue or excess profits; and

anything in excess of that specific figure should go to the

Government.

"One of our difficulties is to write a law in which

some clever people will not find loopholes, or in which
some businesses will not be equitably included. I have

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-2suggested to the chairman of the Committee on Ways and
Means in the House of Representatives that some blanket

clause could well cover, by a special tax, all profits

of any kind of business which exceed the expressed defini-

tion of the legal profit figure.

"At the same time, while the number of individual
Americans affected is small, discrepancies between low
personal incomes and very high personal incomes should

be lessened; and I therefore believe that in time of this

grave national danger, when all excess income should go
to win the war, no American citizen ought to have a net
income, after he has paid his taxes, of more than $25,000

a year. It is indefensible that those who enjoy large

incomes from State and local securities should be immune

from taxation while we are at war. Interest on such
securities should be subject at least to surtaxes.

"I earnestly hope that the Congress will pass a new

tax bill at the earliest moment possible. Such action
is imperative in the comprehensive all-out effort to
keep the cost of living down--and time is of the essence.

(Cong. Rec., April 27, 1942, p.3806)

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MESSAGE TO CONGRESS ON INFLATION CONTROL.

September 7, 1942.

"I reiterate the seven-point program which I presented
April 27, 1942:

"1. To keep the cost of living from spiraling

upward, we must tax heavily, and in that process
keep personal and corporate profits at a reasonable rate, the word 'reasonable' being defined at
a low level.

######*
"In my message of 4 months ago, I pointed out that

in order to succeed in our objective of stabilization it

was necessary to move on all seven fronts at the same

time; but that two of them called for legislation by the
Congress before action could be taken. It was obvious
then, and it is obvious now, that unless those two are

realized, the whole objective must fail. These are

points numbered one and four; namely, an adequate tax

program, and a law permitting the fixing of price ceilings
on farm products at parity prices.

"I regret to have to call to your attention the fact
that neither of these two essential pieces of legislation

has as yet been enacted into law. That delay has now
reached the point of danger to our whole economy.

"However, we are carrying out, by executive action,
the other parts of the seven-point program which did not
require congressional action.
"A recent study by the Bureau of Labor Statistics has

shown very strikingly how much the incomes of the average

of families have gone up during the first quarter of 1942.
If we assume that the income for the first quarter of 1942
is a fair basis for estimating what the family income will

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105

be for the entire year, the results of the study show
that whereas less than one-fourth of all families in

the United States received as much as $2,500 in 1941,
more than one-third will have $2,500 OF more in 1942.

This shows how much the purchasing power of the average

American family has gone up as a result of war production
and how essential it is to control that purchasing power
by taxation and by investment in War bonds.

"The cost of all food used by wage earners controlled
and uncontrolled--has been going up at the rate of 1 1/4
percent per month since the price ceilings were set in
May 1942. If this rise should be permitted to continue,
the increased cost of food to wage earners next May
would be more than 15 percent over the level which existed
when the ceilings were set.
"This would be equal to imposing a 15-percent sales
tax on all food purchased by wage earners. Obviously no
one would consider imposing such a tax.

"But with respect to point one-- fair tax programthat still waits upon the Congress to act.
"One of the most powerful weapons in our fight to

stabilize living costs is taxation. It is a powerful

weapon because It reduces the competition for consumers'
goods--especially scarce foods.

"The cooperation and self-restraint of the whole

Nation will be required to stabilize the cost of living.
The stabilization of the cost of living cannot be main-

tained without heavy taxes on everyone except persons with

very low incomes. With such increases in the tax load, unfair tax distribution becomes less and less tolerable. We
can rightfully expect the fullest cooperation and self-

restraint only if the tax burden is being fairly levied
in accordance with ability to pay.

10b

-3"This means that we must eliminate the tax exemption

of interest on State and local securities, and other
special privileges or loopholes in our tax law.
"It means that in the higher income brackets the tax
rate should be such as to give the practical equivalent of a
top limit on an individual's net income after taxes, approximating $25,000. It means that we must recapture through

taxation all wartime profits that are not necessary to
maintain efficient all-out war production. Such provisions
will give assurance that the sacrifices required by war are
being equitably shared."

(Cong. Rec., Sept. 7, 1942, PP. 7283, 7284, 7285.)

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Paul

October 1, 1942

You will be interested to know that yesterday
the Dow-Jones ticker carried a report that at a
luncheon of the National Retail Dry Goods Association Senator George predicted that the Ruml Plan

will have the full and sympathetic consideration
of Congress next January.

The Senator is also reported to have stated

that an effective compulsory savings plan will
necessitate the incorporation of some adaptation
of the pay-as-you-go plan.

her

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

October 1, 1942

Secretary Morgenthau
Randolph Paul

You may be interested to know that Senators Lee
and O'Mahoney and Congressman Gore called today and

requested material on the spendings tax. They

exhibited great interest in the Treasury proposal and

stated that they would like to study up on it.
Senator O'Mahoney was out of Washington at the

time our statment was presented to the Senate Finance

Committee. Senator Lee, however, is an advocate of
compulsory savings and wants to convince himself that
our spendings tax would gain that end.

REP

109

MEMORANDUM

TO:

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM:

Randolph Paul

October 1, 1942.

I conferred this morning with Chairman Davis of
the War Labor Board with respect to the extent to
which the Treasury Department should participate in
the enforcement of orders under the Price Stabilization Act respecting wage increases. It was assumed

by Chairman Davis that the President would direct that
wage or salary payments in violation of the orders under
that Act should not be allowed by the Treasury Department as deductible expenses for income tax purposes.
Chairman Davis was interested in the manner in
which the Treasury Department would administer such a

direction by the President. We discussed in general
terms the problems that would confront the Bureau of
Internal Revenue. These problems involve the ques-

tion of inspection to ascertain if the wage increase
orders were being violated, consideration of the
extent to which the Bureau of Internal Revenue would be

involved in the interpretation of such orders, etc.

110

-2It was indicated by Chairman Davis that the War
Labor Board would confine its attention to wages and

would not attempt to deal with salaries, the latter
being defined as payments in excess of a certain

figure, say $3,500 or $5,000. Thus, in the case of
wages an agency would exist to make the various policy

decisions necessarily present in the administration of
a wage stabilization program. The Treasury Department

would be carrying out the policies of such agency
through the sanction of disallowing as deductions pay-

ments in violation of such policies. In the case of
salaries, however, the additional problem is presented
of determining which agency should perform the policy

functions similar to those to be undertaken in the
case of wages by the War Labor Board. Unless some

agency undertakes to perform such policy functions, the

Treasury Department might find itself faced in the

salary field with the job of determining these difficult questions, and not merely with the job of carrying

out stabilization policies already determined by
another agency.

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-3Chairman Davis thought it desirable that the
Treasury Department cooperate with the War Labor

Board and the other interested agencies in drawing
an Executive Order to be issued under the Price

Stabilization Act. The problem is one of immediate
concern in view of the necessity of issuing the
Executive Order at least before November 1. I
should like to discuss with you the problems involved

in this matter insofar as they affect the Treasury
Department and the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

REP
is

Form
112

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO Secretary Morgenthau

October 1, 1942

FROM Randolph Paul

In connection with a Procurement Division matter
having to do with rubber tire manufacturing equipment
being purchased for the Russians, Mr. O'Connell attended
a conference with various Procurement people and some

WPB engineers. Certain information came to Mr. O'Connell's
attention which he has forwarded to me and which I think

is so shocking that I feel that I must forward it to you.
The story in respect to the acquisition of tire

making facilities for the Russians seems in many respects

to parallel the recent oil refinery disclosures.

The President decided in July 1941 that certain tire
making facilities should be provided for the Russians.
In spite of the lapse of considerably more than a year,
such preliminary questions as the precise scope of the

project, the extent to which new equipment will be manufactured and the extent to which existing equipment will
be utilized, and other major questions, have not yet been
decided. It is needless to add that nothing has been done.
Apparently the program has been kicked around from

pillar to post for the past year. It is not possible to

say to whom the fault should be attributed. However, among
the things that have happened are the following:

1. The War Production Board apparently decided at
some point (we don't know just when) that the Russians
were not entitled to have a plant capable of producing

1 million tires in a 16-hour day, which is what they

asked for, and decided to redesign the program so as to

give them one capable of producing 1 million tires in
a 24-hour day. The Russians are still not completely
reconciled to this change. The reason given us for this
major change was to produce a saving in critical materials.

113

-22. After the Procurement Division had let a contract

to National Rubber Machinery Manufacturing Company for

some items (the contract was let in March of this year and
involved around $1 million worth of equipment) the War
Production Board put a stop order on production by the
contractor. This was done although the War Production
Board had, prior to our contract, cleared the lend-lease
requisition for this equipment. The reason assigned for

the stop order was that they did not realize until later
that the requisition was for a part of a program (costing
$7 million or more) and they thought it necessary to reexamine the situation in the light of that fact. (Presumably the decision to cut down the size of the project must
have been subsequent to this contract, since WPB did not
know there was a program at the time it cleared this

particular requisition.) Some of the items covered by
this contract have not been released for production yet.
3. The War Production Board has apparently been

working on the program with a view to utilizing existing
equipment to the extent possible, and this is one of the
reasons for holding up production. In that connection,

we are informed that the War Production Board has not as
yet contacted the owners of the used equipment it is contemplated be acquired, although the decision to acquire it
was apparently made several months ago. We are informed
that letters have been drafted addressed to the owners of
such equipment but have not yet gone out. Apparently it
took some time to decide whether to ask owners of the

equipment "nicely" or whether to insert in the letter an
indication that the Government possesses the power to

requisition (the decision to use the "nice" approach

may have been made prior to the recently indicated intention of the Chairman of the War Production Board to "get
tough"). We do not know how long this matter has been held
in WPB. We do know that the letter has not gone out yet,
the last delay apparently having been caused by the appointment of Mr. Jeffers as rubber czar and the decision to have

the letter clear his office before going out.

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-34. It will not be possible to assemble the needed
facilities to send to Russia before July 1, 1943, even
though a portion of the program may be made up of existing

facilities. We are not informed how many of the items

comprising the program are under contract, but production
of many of them has not been permitted to proceed pending
the determination of how much in the way of used facilities
may be required. We are also informed that there will have
to be a certain additional amount of redesigning and re-

adjusting in the entire program after the total amount of
used facilities to be acquired has been definitely
determined.

It seems to me that the above story is another
illustration of the shameful way in which lend-lease aid
to the Russians has been undercut.

REP

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ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

October 1, 1942.
MEMORANDUM

TO:

FROM:

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Gaston

I went to a luncheon at the Army
and Navy Club today and sat across the
table from Bob Patterson. He asked me
how we were coming on our communications

project and I told him that we appeared

before the Joint Communications Committee

and got an apparent brush-off. He said

he didn't think this was final, that the
matter had been referred to the Joint
Committee by Navy, but that his boss
(Stimson) had talked directly to the
Acting Secretary of the Navy and he believed also with Secretary Hull himself

on the matter. He thought the thing
would be gone into pretty carefully no

matter what report the Joint Committee
may make.

Mr.

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OCT 1 - 1942

My dear Senators

Reference is made to your letter of September 22, 1942,

relating to a bill which you introduced in the Senate to authorise
the use for war purposes of silver held or owned by the United
States (s. 2768).

The Treasury Department is studying this bill and has not
as yet submitted any report thereon. However, the following canments may be made with respect to your questions.

As indicated in your letter, the question as to whether

or net appropriate arrangements could be made so that the silver
which is being lend-lessed for use in war plants could be used

under the provisions of this bill as a reserve against silver

certificates depends primarily upon the meaning of the words

*possession or control" as used in the bill. of course, any dia

cussion of the meaning of these words in the committee reports

on this bill, or in consittee hearings, or in debates on the

floor, would be relevant in construing the meaning of those words
as used in any bill which was finally ensoted. For your inform
nation in this connection, you are advised that the silver now
being made available for war purposes is being land-Leased under

provisions whereby title to the silver remains at all times in
the United States and whereby the silver is required to be turned upon written notice by the Secretary to the effect that
the redelivery of any part or all of such silver is necessary for
reasons connected with the monetary requirements of the United
states.

L

with respect to your second question, if arrangements
could be made se that lend-lessed silver could be used as a reserve
for silver certificates, the amount of silver which could be made
available for consumptive war purposes pursuant to the provisions
of the bill, if now enacted, would be in excess of 1,000,000,000
ounces.

Very truly yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.
Honorable Theodore Francis Green,

United States Senate.
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TEX CHAIRMAN
JOHNSON CALIF.
ANTHUR CAPPER KANS.

ROBERT LA FOLLETTE

United States Denate
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

entember 22, 1942

The Secretary of the Treasury

Treasury Department
Washington, D.C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:
About a week ago I introduced in the Senate

a bill to authorize the use for war purposes, of
silver held or owned by the United States. It

is S. 2768, a copy of which is enclosed herewith.
The l'anufacturing Jewelers and Silversmiths
in whose interest the bill was introduced are
fearful lest even if passed it may not accomplish
the desired purposes. 'the President of the New
England Manufacturing Jewelers' and Silversmiths'
Association, Mr. Ballou, has written me a letter,
dated yesterday, a copy of which I also enclose
herewith.

There are two questions to which I would be
glad to have your reply:

1. the Treasury is now lending from its
stock of free silver, uncoined metal not

backing un paper money, to war industries
for nonconsumptive uses. Under the pro-

visions of this bill if passed, could
the Treasury substitute for this silver
other silver now held solely to secure
the silver certificates and thus release
for consumptive war purposes the silver

now lent?

It seems to come down to the question whether

on page 2, line 9, the words "or control" apply to
the silver 30 lent. In other words after pa ssage of
the bill could silver now used solely as security
for silver certificates be used for the double purposes of this security and nonconsumptive war latter pur-

poses, so that the silver now used for the stated
nonconsumptive purposes, under the conditions

in the bill, could be used for consumptive purposes?

The Secretary of the Treasury

-2- September 22, 1942

2. Assuming this bill were already passed,
how much silver would now be available

under the conditions stated in the bill
for consumptive war purposes?

As appears from Mr. Ballou's letter the silversmiths are anxious for an early reply to these
questions and I hope that you can give them to me
without inconvenience.

Yours very truly,

Theodore Francis Green

TFG:mo

Enc. (2)

77TH CONGRESS
20 SESSION

S. 2768

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
SEPTEMBER 14, 1942

Mr. GREEN introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred
to the Committee on Banking and Currency

A BILL
To authorize the use for war purposes of silver held or owned by
the United States.
1

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa-

2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled.

3 That notwithstanding any other provision of law. the Presi-

4 dent is authorized. through the Secretary of the Treasury,
5 to sell, lease, or otherwise dispose of. upon such terms as
6 the Secretary of the Treasury shall deem expedient, to any

7 person, partnership, association. or corporation, or any
8 department of the Government. or to the government of any

9 country whose defense the President deems vital to the
10 defense of the United States. for use in connection with the

2

1 war effort, including but not limited to the making of muni2 tions of war and the supplying of civilian needs contributing

3 to the war effort, and the converting of existing plants to
4 those purposes, any silver held or owned by the United
5 States: Provided, That no silver shall be sold under this
6 Act at less than its cost to the United States or at less than

7 the then current market price for silver. whichever is the
8 higher: Provided further, That at all times the ownership
9 and the possession or control of an amount of silver. of a
10 monetary value equal to the face amount of all outstanding
11 silver certificates heretofore or hereafter issued by the Secre-

12 tary of the Treasury shall be maintained by the Treasury.
13

SEC. 2. Authority to sell silver under this Act shall

14 expire on January 1. 1944.

2 SESSION

77TH CONGRESS

By Mr. GREEN

Banking and Currency

Read twice and referred to the Committee OIL

SEPTEMBER 14. 1942

A BILL

S. 2768

held or owned by the United States.

To authorize the for war purposes of silve

NEW ENGLAND MANUFACTURING JEWELERS'

AND SILVERSMITHS' ASSOCIATION

COPY

Providence Biltmore Hotel
Providence, Rhode Island
September 21, 1942

Senator Theodore Francis Creen

Senate office Building
Washington, D. C.

Dear Senator Green:

As I informed you vl.en in Providence, ve are

anxious to ascertain at the earliest possible

moment whether the Secretary of the Treasury

is satisfied that your silver bill as drawn

gives him authority to use the silver already

loaned or ear-marked for lease-lend war use as

backing for the silver certificates. Also
whether the bill permits him to sell the socalled allocated silver to industry ror con-

sumptive purposes in the interest of the war
effort.

If you are able to obtain the amount of silver

the Secretary of the "reasury believes your
bill would make available for such purposes,
this would give us the information desired.
will you be kind enough to udvise me by wire
of his reply?

Thank you most sincerely for your efforts on

our behalf.

Sincerely,

F. A. Ballou, Jr.
President

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OCT 1 - 1942

Dear Eleanor:

I suggest a reply to the enclosed

letter from Mrs. E. Goold somewhat as
follows:

"I have your letter of
September 22, 1942, and its en-

closures. I regret that, since the

matter mentioned therein is wholly

outside the jurisdiction of any

Federal agency, I cannot be of
assistance to you."

If you desire me to do anything fur-

ther about this matter, please let me know.

Affectionately,
(Signed) Henry

Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt,
The White House.

Delivered by Sturgis - 11:40

File in Diary
or

123

I for Mrs. Receevelt
Dear Kleasers

I suggest a reply to the enclosed letter from
Mrs. E. Goold somewhat as follows,

"I have your letter of September 22,

1942, and its enclosures. I regret that,

since the matter mentioned therein is
wholly outside the jurisdiction of any
Federal agency, I cannot be of assistance
to you."

If you desire no to do anything further about
this matter, please let me know.

Enclosure

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9/30/42

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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

m gaston
September 28, 1942

Memorandum for Secretary of the Treasury
Dear Henry:

Do you know anything about this?
E.R.

september 22, 1942

420 Beach 143 Street

Neponsit, Long Island
New York City

Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt,
29 washington Square rest,
New York City.

Dear Mrs. Roosevelt,

The man described in the enclosed publication by Mr. Morgenthau,
Secretary of the Treasury. has caused my husband and other hus-

bands to forsake their wives and children and to follow him.

This he accomplished with the aid of his wife, wielding uncanny
and sinister influences over them, made possible by his uninterrupted successes at large-scale swindling enterprises, including
the one described by Mr. Morgenthau in his publication, and his
unerring success at evasion of the law. resulting in his acquis-

ition.of great wealth and strong, but subversive political ties.

By continually employing such tactics, and through using the
American Labor party as a smokescreen, he landed himself recently 8 14-year. $25,000 job in the State Supreme Court, with the
aid and backing of his sponsor, the Mayor, who enjoys a third

term mainly through the American Labor party of which this man was
a leading light.

Now, when my sons and I seek justice and adequate support for ourselves, we are blocked even in the Domestic Relations Court, by

the machinations of this man, to whose interest it is to keep us

crushed.

It is he who has absorbed my husband's energies and productivity,
and has brought about the present estrangement in order to fur-

ther his own ends. I am sure my husband loves me still, but is
too hopelessly involved to be able to help himself.
I cannot get a hearing anywhere, because of this man's power and

influence. If I could be heard. I am sure. the fetters would fall

away from my husband, and this Hangerous criminal would get his just
deserts.

The letters from my husband written to me over the years and the
court records would substantiate my claims.
Knowing as much about this man as I do, I have good reason to hold

the opinion that the odd similarity of the names, Samuel Null, the

Supreme Court judge. who swindled the farmers 1920-1924, and 'Samuel
Nusso' which, in my estimation, is only the assumed name of the time

business agent of the Hod Carriers' Union, now for the third
under investigation at Newburgh, is by no means coincidental.

TO ascertain the real facts, however, great restraint should be exercised against allowing even a hint of suspicion to escape. and
nothing should be disturbed or attempted without careful preliminary planning.

Although Mr. Null's past record was dark enough to disqualify him,
yet the Bar Association who were familiar with the facts about Mr.
Null and with Mr. Morgenthau's publication of those facts, kept
them well under their hats when they endorsed his nomination last
fall.
It seems to me. however, that he could be brought up on the following charges. any one of which would probably bring an indictment
and disqualify him for office, since prosecution for his past crimes
appears now to be outlawed by the Statute of Limitations.
1. Giving false information concerning his credentials and personal data.
2. protecting and sheltering a fugitive from justice (another
of the reduced husbands, now living under an assumed name)

3. Alienation (I doubt if such lefislation exists, but in a
case such as this where a man seduces another man, from his wife and
children, I believe it should).
I feel sure that a possible 4th charge would develop. if the creden-

tials of 'Samuel Nuzzo' business agent. were thoroughly and conscientiously investigated, and trucked down.

Although it is true that the Statute of Limitations is now Mr. Null's
protection from prosecution on the strength of his old swindles;-the Farmers' Standard Carbide Swinile. the Mexican Petroleum swindle
and the 'bucket shops' he conducted on Wall Street, the Statute of
Limitations cannot wipe out his past record. or the blemish on his
character which make him ineligible for his present position.
Can we, above all, in times like these. afford to keep in office,
men we know to have bad records? Aren't there enough honest men
with clean records to fill these important posts?

The fugitive from justice. whose real name is Paul Moskow, but who
has been known as Paul Gendel since 1920. when Mr. Null's Mexican
Petroleum swindle took place. may now be the business agent, 'Samuel
Nuzzo' I remember having seen this man once, dressed like a prosperous business man, although supposedly in the employ of a large
dress concern, run by another member of the 'group' controlled by
Mr. Null.

Although Governor Lehman himself ordered the retrial of the Hod
Carriers' case, no solution has been reached and no indictments have
been made. Perhaps the following quotation from the N.Y. Post of

Oct. 29th, 1941, just before Mr. Null's election. will explain this;
"He (meaning Mr. Hull) aroused in Arthur S. Meyer, formerly vicepresident of Schulte tobacco stores, such an interest in labor pro-

blems, that Meyer has since become chairman of the State Mediation
Board of appointment of Governor Lehman.

3.

Null's protege, Arthur S. Meyer entrenched in Albany, close
with Mr. Governor, it is to be expected that the procedure in the Hod

to the Union's case will follow the pattern laid down by the Gov-

Carriers' in handling Kern's charges against Mr. Null's Sponsor, the Mayor,

ernor Plynn-brick affair, in which no indictments were made in spite
in the repeated appeals of the Citizens' Union, private citizens and

of other the organizations, to the Governor, for a fair and unprejudiced trial.

a procedure could only mean an additional feather in Mr. Null's
Such to my husband, and the rest of the 'group' he holds in just this
oap, way under his hypnotic influence.

it would serve again, inevitably, to bolster his confidence
Moreover, his own ability to always "get away with it," as he has done hereto-

in and thus encourage him to tackle bigger and better crimes in the
future, for, while aiming for correspondingly higher promotions still, or
barring that, greater power.

After all, the habits of a life-time are not easily shaken off, and

after all, why should Mr. Null want to shake them off? He has gotten
what he wants out of life with those habits. They have served him well
and have yielded him a very rich harvest, for no one has thus far
caught up with him, and judging from the exposures now being made that of
our highest governmental officials in washington, it i8 probable
no one will, until our goose is cooked.
How did the unscrupulous saboteurs recently exposed in Congress, reach
their high positions, except through the same procedure pursued by
Mr. Null? because no restraint has ever been brought by this government
to check them on their way up: because we, the people, have trusted to
our Bar Associations and other supposedly ethical organizations and Reep

us informed on the integrity of the candidates for high offices

they have failed us, not always because of indulging in risk our easy-going of our

American custom of closing an eye and gambling, at the selfprized, democratic institutions, with the speculation and statute smug of
hypnosis that these criminals, simply because the kindly had into
Limitations had descended upon them, like a beneficent metamorphosed cloak,
left to themselves, undergone a change of heart and they very
honest men; now that they had what they wanted, even though, and unscrupuwell knew that it was nothing but their very dishonesty here, which
lousness, and the protection this indulgence afforded attain them to their
had, in the first place, made it possible for them to political
present powerful positions, but also because of their own before their
involvements and of placing their own personal interests
country's or the common good.

It seems to me that by letting such felons grow like bringing mushrooms about in the our

night, courting crop of frankensteins, and unless something
own doom. we are And what else & have we a right to expect,

is done about it and done quickly.

Knowing Mr. Null as I do for over 26 years, I can or democratic tell you that principles Mr.

Wull is concerned with American ideals engaged in promothe 88 much the farmers or with me while he was nature and

as ing his was own with personal interests at our expense. He is by

habit, incapable of cherishing such ideals and such principles,
and is even more to be feared for his cameleon characteristics, than

and

of
practices
of our Benedict our our
his uno onscionable performances.

Can we then afford to have such men in high and critical positions,

especially in times like these? Aren't we already reaping in a rich

harvest poisonous Arnolds, weeds. for in the failure sabotage to properly and other safeguard foul

precious privileges from such marauders 88 these?

Yours truly,

Mrs. E foold

420 Beach 143 street
Neponsit, Long Island,
New York City.

September 22, 1942.

Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt,

29 washington Square west,
New York City.

Dear Mrs. Roosevelt,

In my letter of September 14th, I neglected to enclose Mr.
Morgenthau's publication. Here it is now with a second lotter

which is the same as the first, only in the first`half, but very
much revised in the latter half, in which I express myself much
more completely.

I hope you will find time to read it through.
Very truly yours,

(Night E Good

America griculturist
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Agriculture is the Most Healthful, Most Useful and Most Noble Employment of Man.' Washington
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Number

For the Week Ending January 26, 1924

Volume 113

Farmers' Standard Carbide Exposed
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the
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been

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the

if

Grand Jury in the United States District Court indicted the Standard
Food and Fur Association and all of its officers

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them MY reference to the activities of the Farmers Standard Carbide
Company about which company we have received innumerable com

plaints It M our policy to maintain a Service Bureau for the benefit
of our subscribers and to get information for them in answer to their

inquiries. In accordance with this policy, we have repeatedly re
quested information from the Farmers' Standard Carbide Company
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in-

or throw mud at any company. We merely desire to get facts and

it

information add before publishing anything. we communicate with the

The Company Financial Statement
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if possible, to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they have con
sistently falled to give us the facts sought. Read these articles and

accord
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President. HENRY MORGENTHAU, JR.

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figures.

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American Agriculturist
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For the Week Ending February 16. 1924

Number 7

113

Where the Dividends Came From
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

Mrs. Klat
132
This closes

this
case Ibelieve
DATE OCT 1 - 1942

Under Secretary Bell

TO

iron

J. W. Pehle

FROM

I am returning herewith the material which you forwarded
Mr. Paul on the JDC matter.

For your information, I am attaching copies of a memorandum, dated September 1, which was sent to the Secretary by Mr.
Paul and a memorandum, dated September 3, which was sent by me to
Mr. Paul.

gotten

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September 3, 1942

COPY

To:

Mr. Paul

From:

J. W. Pehle

Reference is made to your memorandum of September 1, 1942, to the

Secretary with reference to the request of the JDC for permission to
authorize its Shanghai representative to obtain locally funds for
relief purposes in Shanghai.

Mrs. Klotz called me on September 3, 1942, and asked me to notify
the JDC and the State Department of your decision not to permit this
transaction. The JDC and the State Department have been informally

advised accordingly.

(Signed) J. W. Pehle

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Sept. 1, 1942.
Secretary Morgenthau
Randolph Paul

The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Inc. has asked for
permission to authorize its Shanghai representative to obtain locally the
equivalent of $240,000 to be expended for relief purposes among the 22,000 German,
Austrian, Polish, Czech and Dutch refugees there resident. Foreign Funds has
jurisdiction over all financial communications with the enemy and enemy-occupied
territories. The Committee would remit no funds from the United States, but would
guarantee the repayment of the $240,000 borrowed in Shanghai, the loan to be repaid

at the end of the war or at such time as it would be legal to do so.

It is the policy of Foreign Funds not to authorize the transmission of
financial communications to any occupied territory unless there is a clear benefit

to the war effort of the United States. It is also the present policy of the

United States not to permit the extension of relief to the inhabitants of enemyoccupied territories. As exceptions to this policy, some food and other supplies

have been sent to Greece and, I believe, some milk has been sent to the children
of France. All exceptions have been considered on the basis of their own merits
and have been permitted only for the most weighty reasons.
Under Secretary Welles has stated that the Government would find it

difficult to make an exception to the general policy in the case of the Shanghai
refugees. However, he has indicated a willingness to be of help provided the
method used does not constitute an exception.

If the Committee were granted permission to communicate its guarantee
to Shanghai, it would require a modification of the general rule of Foreign Funds
and the Office of Censorship against permitting communications relating to
financial or commercial transactions unless they would be of advantage to the
United States. A strong argument, putting entirely to one side humanitarian

considerations, for failing to follow the general rule in case, is that there

would be no transmission of funds from the United States. The argument, however,
is not conclusive since the guarantee if communicated may be utilized as a basis
for drawing funds from neutral or other sources to the sphere of Japanese control,
which funds might not other wise be transmitted. Furthermore, aside from the fact

that the authorization would not further the war effort, it would be a grave source

of embarrassment to Foreign Funds in the future.

The policy of this Government in regard to communications with enemy
and enemy-occupied areas is so strict that we are not allowing American citizens

to provide funds for their alien mothers, brothers, sisters, wives and children

areas. You Knudsen had a
tofunds
inthatDenmark
J.D.C. inproposal
such provide may recall
to his General sistersthrough
plan similar the General to the

Motors establishment there and the Treasury refused to allow the transaction,
even though no remittance from the United States was involved. The American

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public has accepted completely the Government's policy against communication
with enemy and enemy-occupied areas. This acceptance has undoubtedly been due in

part at least to the uniformity with which the rule has been enforced. Any

exceptions would undermine the Government's position in this important field.

It would be difficult, if not impossible, treating the case as a

precedent, to deny permission to other relief organizations to make similar
arrangements in other enemy or enemy-occupied territories where the humanitarian

claims are equal to or greater than those which prevail in the case of Shanghai.
It is clear that the proposed method would constitute an exception to
the general policy of the Government. On January 27, 1942, the State Department
issued the following press release which has not been modified to date:
"The following statement has been made today,
with the approval of the American Government, by

Dr. Hugh Dalton, British Minister of Economic Warfare
in the British House of Commons:

"The two governments, nevertheless, continue

to maintain in the most categorical manner that it

is incumbent upon the enemy to feed the countries

occupied by him and their policy in this respect
remains unaffected by the exception which it has
been found necessary to make in the special
circumstances obtaining in Greece. IN

Accordingly, far from being of advantage to the United States, the
authorization of the communication would be a part of a plan that might result
in relieving Japan of a duty which the spokesman of the United States has said
is incumbent upon Japan.

Finally Foreign Funds is bound by the last quoted statement of policy,
and, until the statement is modified, Foreign Funds should not authorize the
communication of the guarantee, entirely apart from the question of its own rule.

It is my opinion, therefore, that the request of the Committee to
communicate a guarantee to its Shanghai representative be denied. Needless to
add, I come to this conclusion most reluctantly.

(initialed) R.E.P.

HC/fn 8/31/42

136
THE UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE
WASHINGTON

September 23, 1942
PERSONAL

Dear Dan:

With reference to our telephone conversation

of day before yesterday, the feeling of the Department of State with regard to the question of assistance to the Jewish Distribution Committee in Shanghai

is similar to that of the Treasury Department. For
the moment, therefore, it seems to me that there is
nothing further that we can do in the matter, much

as I regret the inability of this Government to be
of assistance under the tragic circumstances involved.
Believe me

Yours (ery sincerely,

And

The Honorable

Daniel W. Bell,
Under Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.

retary Morgenthau

J. Foley, Jr.

FOREIGN FUNDS CONTRO

JUL 16

JDC - communications with enemy territory

Date

MLH
OAS

ION TAKEN:

will recall that on Mar. 3 Pehle and I subted a memo. to you setting forth the reasons
denying request of JDC to pay funds to person
U.S. who would in turn make funds available to

in Shanghai for relief. In May JDC asked would

authorize them to transmit message to Shanghai.
cussed with Green of State and he agreed with

al. July 13 meeting with State. Denial of JDC
best reaffirmed, would result in breach in estab
hed policy concern. trade and com. with enemy tex.

BB
GHF

138

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

E. H. Foley, Jr.
You will recall that on March 3 Pehle and I submitted a

memorandum to you, setting forth the reasons for denying the request
of the JDC to pay funds to a person in the United States who would

in turn make funds available to the JDC in Shanghai for relief
purposes. As was pointed out in that memorandum, the refusal to
authorize such a transaction was based on the fact that numerous
individuals and organizations desire to make remittances to enemy
(and enemy-occupied) areas or to work out special arrangements

for aiding persons in such areas. To permit such remittances or

communications in connection with such special arrangements would

make impossible the effective control of transactions with enemy

territory. Our general policy in this respect has frequently

been discussed with representatives of the State Department and
the British Ministry of Economic Warfare, and it has always been
agreed that communications with enemy territory for these purposes
should not be permitted.
In May the JDC asked whether we would authorize them to

transmit a message to Shanghai advising their representative there

that the JDC would continue to stand back of any commitments which
the Shanghai representatives might make in order to raise funds

for relief purposes. This proposal was discussed with Mr. Joseph
C. Green of the Department of State and he expressed the view that
the communication should not be permitted. When we advised him

that we had not authorized the transmittal of a cable containing
such instructions, Mr. Green expressed approval of the Treasury's

position.

On July 13th, at your request, members of Pehle's staff

again discussed the matter with Mr. Green to determine whether the
State Department's position had changed as a result of your conversation with Mr. Welles. Green was asked whether the State Department was prepared to recommend that the communication be transmitted.
We were advised that the position of the State Department had not

but that the

changed, Mr. Welles had suggested possibility of

discovering alternative methods, consistent with this Government's

policy, of achieving the JDC's objective. Mr. Green said that he
could not think of any alternative means and asked whether we
could suggest such an alternative.

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Consideration of the matter led to the conclusion that
the only alternative means of accomplishing the end envisaged by
the JDC would be the remittance of funds from this country or some
other non-enemy area which would be even more undesirable than the
method proposed by JDC. It was agreed that on the basis of
established policy the denial of the JDC request would have to be
reaffirmed. We can assume, of course, that even in the absence of
any new instructions the JDC representatives in Shanghai will make

every effort to carry on with their relief activities and will use
all available resources to alleviate suffering.
Our discussions do not indicate that the State Department

has altered its previous position, namely, that the request of the
JDC should be denied. It continues to be our view also that to
have allowed the communication in this case would have obligated

us to give favorable consideration to many similar and equally
worthy requests as a result of which a serious breach would be
made in our established policy concerning trade and communication
with enemy territory.

father

140
July 22, 1948

FOR FILES
Subjects Mooting with representatives of the JBB embersing their
request for authorization to communicate with Shanghai in

connection with their activities is that area.

JOB members presents Messre. d. C. Hymes and Masse A. Leavitt.

treasury reprecentatives, and
Messro.
Daniel Bell, Poley, B. Berastain,
Schmidt.
The members of the JDC called to discuss their request for
authorisation to communicate with their representatives is Shanghai
in order to instruct such representatives to continue to raise shate
ever funds could be reised locally for relief purposes, and to assure

them that the JBC would stand back of any commitments made by the
Shanghai representatives. Before the occupation of Shanghai, the JBC
had passed upon the Shanghai representatives? budget for a Goodh

period and had approved the activities outlined for the period which
expired some time in May of this year. The JBC - waste to instruct
their Shanghai representatives to proceed - the same basis for another
Goodt period.

Is giving . brief account of their efforts to date to obtain

the requested authorisation the representatives of the JBC indicated
that in their recent discussions with Jee Green of the State Department
they had obtained the impression that the Department of State was willing
to approve and that 10 was only the Treasury Department that objected to
the communication, The representatives of the JBG also pointed out that
recently a representative of the International Red Clress had offered to
supervise the relief activities of the JBC in Shanghai should the JDC be
able to earry - Mr. Ryana pointed out that this was a now element in
the picture and they wated to being the matter before us in the High
of this now development. After exphonicing the fast that they were not
asking to resit any now funds to Shangbai but a to communicate with
their representatives in that area, the JUS representatives indicated
that they did not understand the reasons for our refund of their request.
In respense to a question, the JBC members explained that they
hoped their representatives would be able to borrow locally from several
wealthy Jour located in Shanghai. Then questioned as to why their reg
resentatives would not continue their welfare activities in the absence
of any additional instructions, Mr. Hyman indicated that they had con-

sidered this possibility but that they felt that a wealthy person in

Shanghai would be more likely to turn ever funds to their representatives
for relief purposes if their representatives were able to assure such
persons that the JBC would repay them after the war is ever.

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s
After pointing out to the representatives of the JBG that the
State Department had also felt that the JBC's request should be denied

and that Jee Groun had, within the last for days, reaffirmed the
most of State's conservence with the treasury's position in this respons,
treasury representatives explained to Needre. and Losvitt the beats
policies underlying the Treasury's decision. It was pointed only that

this Government had publically case that it would not authorise -

mentention with enery territory except in those sure I in which such
communication would result in a positive contribution to our war efforts

that morrows organizations and business entorgriees and many individuals

desire to communicate with enery territory, but that applications for

treasury licensee authorising - salesties have been denied in all

except three instances in which the communication aid contribute to the
war efforts and, accordingly, that the request of the JBC could not be
approved unless the Treasury would be prepared to approve other similar
requests, thereby seriously reducing the effectiveness of our trading with
the Happy Act policy. The attention of the JDC regreementives also was

directed to - of the basic considerations relating to the fraimmental
policy of this Government concerning relief activities in occupied torri-

terios.

After listening to the analysis of the Treasury's position,

Mr. Ryans stated that he did not wish to challenge the Government's position with respect to these basis issues and that the JBC would not further

question the treasury Department's decision. no further indicated his
understanding of the accessity for adopting these policies and indicating
that should he be sitting - our side of the table he would probably share

our point of view.

Thorough Heart. Hyman and Leavitt indicated that they had
as appointment to discuss the antter with Welles later in the afternoon
but that in view of this discussion they would not want to waste Mr.
Welless time. Treasury representatives expressed the opinion that Hym
and Leavits should disease their problem further with Mr. willes, since
the basic policies were policies not of the Treasury Department alone
but of the United States Government, and that the treasury Department
would reconsider its position should the State Department request the
Treasury to do no.

(Initialed) O.A.S.

601 Mr. Bell
Mr. Foley

Mr. B. Bernstein
Mr. Hoffman
Mr. Poble

O.A.SCHNIDF:des 7/23/42

THE UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE
WASHINGTON

July 17, 1942
Dear Henry:

with reference to our several recent conversations
in regard to the proposal of the American Jewish Joint
Distribution Committee, Inc., , for the financing of its
relief work in Shanghai, I am returning herewith

Mr. Leavitt's memorandum and the letter addressed to
Judge Lehman by Mr. Baerwald.

After our last talk, officials of this Department
conferred, in Mr. Pehle's absence, with Mr. Hoffman
and Mr. Schmidt in Mr. Pehle's office. I am informed

that these officers of your Department have sent you a
memorandum setting forth their views with regard to the
problem involved which, in summary, represents the considered opinion that the proposal of the Joint Distribution Committee could not be approved without violating
the established policy of the Treasury Department,
which policy they regard as wise and necessary.

I feel very strongly that every effort should still

be made to try and help these unfortunate people in
Shanghai. If there is any way which occurs to you in

which I personally can be helpful in the matter, please
let me know.

My best regards and believe me

V urs very sincerely,

Enclosures:
Memorandum from

Mr. Leavitt;

To Judge Lehman,

June 25, 1942, from

Mr. Bierwald.
the Honorable

Henry Morgenthäu, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

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receivere be followed

t six months on the bord: of onth. The fund: would be

individuals in. Shanghui WITH are in orition to wake such advances,
that the repayment in American doi TO KORE not bc ade to them until

G. In the first instance, kt with to voint out that this procedure

Angs aid or comfort to Liee enomy. The funds in Shanghei are in the
of private individuals, presidently Pusrian nationals, who are prepared
edvances against the hope of eventual inbursement.
for

nd Austrian nutio als, now
eless by the German Government, and consequently there is no
eeb are

to can intercede in their behalf. There are also about 1,000
is and some Dutch and Czech nationals among the refugees. The
have thus far been able to extend to them is on a minimal basis.
laced in a desperate position unless it is possible for OUT American

the secure funds locally in order to carry on the program of relief.
possible to send a cable to our American representatives in
the Swiss Embassy, to the effect that the J.D.C. would be prepared
horization for another six months on the same basis 86 the first

should be sufficient for the relief activities to be carried on,

eding such & cable through the Swies Embasey was first presented
Hoffilan of the Foreign Funds Control Office of MILE

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June 17, 194

120 BROADWAY
NEW YORK

June 25, 1942.

Hon. Irving Lehman

36 West 44th Street

New York.

Dear Judge Lehman:

I take the liberty of enclosing a memorandum
with regard to Shanghai which explains itself.
You will understand that we are most anxious

not to let this matter rect. On the other hand, we do not
want to approach the Secretary of the Treasury direct, and
I was wondering whether it would be possible for you to
approach him in an entirely unofficial zanner.
The fact that I GEO writin. you is not known to

my collea ues. If your ozn time you can find an opportunity to discuss the Matter with our friend, who is 80 very
sympathetic towar: our difficulties, I would consider it &
great favor.

Homin.: you ore well,
Sincerely yours,

146

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

SEP 30 1942

Secretary Morgenthau
Randolph Paul

Submitted herewith are a report and
summary thereof of an investigation of Eastern
Provinces Administration, Limited, and Colonel
Georges F. Doriot, Q.M.C., its president and

stockholder-of-record, which I believe merit
transmission to the Secretary of War for his information and for such action as he may deem

proper. A proposed letter of transmittal is
annexed.

REA

147
Summary of the Report with Respect to
Eastern Provinces Administration, Limited
and Colonel Georges F. Doriot

Georges F. Dorios, a colonel in the Quartermaster
Corps of the United States army, now stationed at
Washington, D.C. has been president of Eastern Provinces
Administration, Limited, a Canadian corporation since
April 13, 1939. Since in or about May, 1940, he has
been its sole stockholder of record. The company has
$3,000,000 in assets in the United States which It holds
for a large number of clients.

In civilian life Colonel Doriot is an industrial

engineer and a professor at the Harvard Graduate School

of Business Administration, A native of France residing
in this country since the 1920's Colonel Doriot was
naturalised in 1939 or 1940. He had been accustomed for
many years to spend his summers in France and in the
1930's he developed close business and personal relationships with Worms & Cie a leading French banking house.
These relations became so close that orior to becoming
a citisen of the United States Colonel Doriot asked
Gabriel Le Roy Ladurie, one of Worns & Cie. s more important figures, to release his from a promise not to change
his nationality. Upon becoming a citizen, Colonel Doriot
explained to Le Roy Ladurie that he was glad that he had
done so because, among other reasons, he believed his
change of nationality would benefit Worns & Cie.'
interests in this country.
A number of Worms & Cie, 's partners and associates

are in the forefront of the French collaborationist
movement. Thus Le Roy Ladurie&s brother Jacques was
until about two weeks age Minister of Agriculture in the

Laval esbinet while Jacques Barnaud, a partner of Woras
Relations. Pierre Pucheu, who managed Japy. a manufacturing concern, for Worms & Cie. has served Laval as Minister

& Cie. is Delegate-General for French-German Economic

of the Interior and Minister of Industrial Production.
report of the Office of the Coordinator of Information

A

(now Office of Strategic Services) names other Worns & Cie.
associates who are or were in, or connected with, the

Laval government.

Colonel Doriot is merely the nominal holder of the
stock of Eastern Provinces Administration and it clearly
appears that the beneficial owners, as Colonel Doriot
has at all times known, are Worms & Cie. or Imafiza, its

-2148

Dutch subsidiary. In his TFR-300 report with respect to
stock, Colonel Doriot admitted that he was merely its
owner
nominal
this but failed to disclose that Worns & Cie. or
Inafisa were its beneficial owners. He stated that the
beneficial owners were anonymous "representatives of a
very numerous group seen who were engaged in banking
largely in France, Holland and Switzerland. Colonel Doriot
also concealed Woras & Cie. B connection with Eastern
Provinces Administration in the TFR-300 report he filed in
connection with that company assets. Thus, although he
disclosed that between April 1939 and March 1940 Pierre
Courtot, Baron F. Louis and Paul van Ogtrop had been among
the company's directors, he reported that their other
business affiliations were unknown to him. The evidence
is clear that Colonel Doriot was well aware of the fact
that Courtot was associated with Worms & Cie. and that
Louis and van Ogtrop were associated with Imafisa. They
are the only persons formally connected with Woras & Cie
ever to have been directors of the company Colonel Doriot
similarly failed to disclose in his TFR-300 reports the
identities of any of the persons for whom Eastern Provinces
Administration holds its assets, although he was in
possession of documents, transmitted to his by Inafisa which,
in large measure, had supplied his with that information.
After formal demand, Colonel Doriot filed TFR-300 reports
with respect to the accounts held for the persons named
in such documents.

A memorandum written by Colonel Doriot on the day that
he verified his two TFR-300 reports demonstrates that in
preparing them as he did he consciously subordinated the
government's requirement of full disclosure to Worms & Cie.'s
desire for secrecy. Whatever may her e been his motive.
there can be little doubt that Colonel Doriot willfully
concealed in his TFR-300 reports that Eastern Provinces
Administration, Limited, was essentially a Worms & Cie, enterprise.

149
C

0

P

Y

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

October 1, 1942
CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary:

Attention: Mr. H. D. White

I am enclosing our compilation for the week ended
September 23, 1942, showing dollar disbursements out of the

British Empire and French accounts at this bank and the means
by which these expenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,
/s/ L. W. Knoke
L. W. Knoke,

Vice President.
The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.
Enclosure

Copy:ime:10/5/42

Strietle
Concerning

ANALYSIS OF RITISH AND FRENCE ACCOUNTS

(In bactions of Sara

ENGLAND (BRITISH GOVERNMENT

DEBITS

CREDITS

Oov't

Total
Debits

PERIOD

First year of war
(8/29/39-8/28/40)
December 1940

CREDITS

Gov't
Expendi-

Other

of Gold

Other

tures (d)

Total

Debita

Credits

Sales

Credits

35.0

866.3(e)

416.6(e)

449.7

1.095,3"

900.2

195.1(c)

$229.0

575.₺

10.8

878.3

421.4

456.9

1,098.4

900.2

198.2

+220.1

274.0

722.1

-13.2

38.9

4.8

34.1

8.8

8.8

30.1

2.0

154.1

0.3
0.3

0.3

0.5
0.3

0.5

0.2

51.

35.3
+41.9
-21.5
- 36.9

0.5

68.

33.0

1.0

56.F

30.0
50.0
- 27.5
+61.7
t.23.2
+18.3
+43.9

tures(a)

Gold

1,793.2

605.6

187.6

1.828.2

1,356.1

52.0

420

2,792.3

425.6

1,356.7

2,793.1

2,109.5

108,0

2.203,00

1,792.2

410.8

2,189.8

1,193.7

140.9

105.9

109.0

77.3

35.0
31.7

176.2
150.9

20.1
0.8

156.1
88.6

111.6
69.6

LLS

134.6

-

18.8

51.5

-

102.3

73.2

29.1

69.3

87.2

63.8

23.4

57.2

121.4

86.4

35.0

98.1

64.2

33.9

174.4
70.6

104.0

81.4
72.6

22.6

165.7

17.3
20.2

113.6
84.4

19.3

116.1

(Official)(b)

Other

Second year of war

(8/29/140-8/27/A)

FRANCE

DEBITS
Total
Debits

Securities

Total
Credits

Mar period through

BANK

Net Incr.
(-)

Proceeds of
Sales of

Other
Debits

Expendi-

Wook Ended September 23.1942

Dear to

Sin Balance

Proceeds

(c)

Dear
.in Balance

1941

Dec. A- Dec. 31

1.0

1942

Jan. Jan. 28

Jan, 29 Feb.
Feb. 26 Apr.

Apr. 2 - Apr..2
Apr. 30 June

June July 1
3

July. 2 - July 29

89.9
66.1
72.2

45.9
52.9

-

-

-

0.5

150
133.J

171

70

165.
-

0.9

Q.5
-

113.1

84

115.1

COOK ENDED:
D.1

7.6

43.1

19.5

17.7

1.8

26.9

16

11.1

43

6.8

23

11.8

7.2

4.6

21.2
11.1

2

9

13.7

Average Weekly Expenditures Since Outbreak of War

France (through June 19, 1940) $19.6 million
England (through June 19, 1940) 27.6 million
England (since June 19, 1940) 34.8 million
*For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941
**For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
(See attached sheet for other footnotes)

43.J

0.5

26.4
21.2

11.1f

29.4

274
10.1
02

16.1

0.8
0.2

-

0.3

-

-

O.B

0.6
0.6

-

0.2

0.4

16.1

-

0.1

0.4

0.2

0.4
0.3

-

-

0.3

-

0.1
0.4

0.1
4

-

0.1

0.3
-

-

0.3

-

0.2

-

-

Aug. 28 Oct. 1
Oct. 2 Oct. 29
Oct. 30 Dec. 3

O.A

0.3

0.1

=

=

-

-

Cumulation from July 6, 1940

162.7

- 15.7

0.4

Qah

0.4
0.3

0.3

0.2

0.4

0%

0.4

0,2

0.3
0.3

0.3

0.3

0.3

0.2

0.4

0.4

-

-

0.3

0.1

0.1

0.1

0.1

+0.1

0.1

0.1

+.0.1

0.1

0.1

Transfers from British Purchasing Commission to
Bank of Canada for French Account
Week ended September 23. 1942

Qu4

million
million

+01

(a) Includes payments for account of British Purchasing Commission, British Air Ministry, British Supply Board, Hindstry of
Supply Timber Control,and Ministry of Shipping.
(b)

Estimated figures based on transfers from the New York Agency of the Bank of Montreal, which apparently represent the

proceeds of official British sales of American securities, including those effected through direct nagotiation. In addition
to the official selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during the

early months of the war, although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be identified with any accuracy. According
to data supplied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation

of our securities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million.

(c) Includes about $85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorised banks with New York banks,
presumably reflecting the requisitioning of private dollar balances. Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
1939 apparently represent the acquisition of proceeds of exports from the sterling area and other currently accruing dollar
receipts.
(d) Includes payments for account of French Air Commission and French Purchasing Commission,

(e) Adjusted to eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day.

(f) Includes: $8.0 million deposited by the British Ministry of Supply
$0.5 million for credit of U. S. Army.

BANK

OF

CANADA (and Canadian Government)
Proceeds

to

official
Total
Debits

PERIOD

British

COMMONWEALTH BANK OP AUBTRALIA (and Australian Government

DEBITS

CREDI LS

Transfers

Transfers from Official
Britisb A/C

of

Other

Total

Gold

A/C

Debits

Credits

Sales

For Own

For French

Strictly

Week Ended 1002

ANADTAK AND AISTRALIAN ACCO MAS

(In Millions of Dollars)

Other

A/C

A/C

Credits

Net Incr.
(+) or
Total
Decr. (-)
in Balance Debits

CRADITS

Transfers

Proceeds

to

Official
British
A/C

Net Inor.

of

Other

Debits

Total
Credits

Sales

Gold

Other
Credits

(-) OF

Decr. (-)

in Balance

First year of war
(8/29/39-8/28/40)*
Bar period through

323.0

16.6

306.4

504.7

412.7

20.9

38.7

32.4

+181,7

31.2

3.9

27.3

36.1

30.0

6.1

4.9

December 1940

477.2

16.6

460.6

797.4

534.8

20.9

110.2

41.0

230.2

57.9

14.5

43.4

62,4

50.1

12.3

4.5

3/29/40-8/27/11)
Aug. 28 - Oct 1

460.4

460.4

462.0
52.3

246.2

3.4

123.9

88.2

1,6

72.2

16.7

55.5

18.3

9.0

29.1

10.7

0.5

10,2

81.2
2.8

62.9

31.0

2.1

0.7

7.9

11.9

52.7

19.7
32.5

0.2
1.3

47.4

47.7

22.2

17.3

39.5

39.5

27.0

-

34.1

33.0
35.7

12.4

-

Second

21.2

-

1941

Oct. 2 - Oct, 29
Oct. 30 - Daca 3
Dec. 4 - Doc. 31

37.4

37.4

52.8

0.1

19.3

-

20.3

6.2

5.5

2.7

2.1

10.3

5.9

3a

8.0
11.6

5.9

13,2

9.0

-

4.9

25.5

3.9

1,8

2,1

2,8

0,2

2.6
2,6

-

6.0

6.5

4.5

4.5

10.8

10,8

6.3

23.3

1,6
52.6

8.4

5.3
1.3

3.1

1.6
3.6

1.6

6.8

3.6

4.2
5.9
1.4

7.S

-

-

-

-

1942

Jan. Jan. 28
Jan. 29 Feb, 25

34.1

46.5

46.5

99.3

Apr.
Apr.

37.6
10.2
47,2

$1.4

196

35.9
67.9

47.2

72.9

40.8

July 2-July_29
July 30 - Sept. 2

40.8
65.1

-

June 4 - July

P

-

-

0.2

20.5
14.2
15%

7.7

37.2

14.7
9.0

-

64.9

77.3

15.4

11.5
6.3

14.7
12.9

1.6
2.2

10.9

2.2
3.6

-

9

16

23

11.5

6.3

13.7

9.316

13.2
9.3

9.8(a)

-

-

-

-

ENTERT

Sept. 2

-

3.2

71.3

21 -

17.7

7.8

9.5

16.

3.7

14.6

0.5

2,0

3.0

14.6
3.0

0.5

Z.1

19.5

19.5

0.4

17.1

17.1

9.4

32.2

58.2

+25.7

2.5
19.1

15.0
3.1

t.12.2

7.7

9.9
10.1

13.8

8.7

+3.2
+6.6
- 2.B

6.2(H)

+.0.5

0.7

of total Debite Since Outbreak of War
million
8.2
1942
For monthly breakdom see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
+ For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
Throug

16.8

10.9
13.2

- 3.1

September 2

.

(a) Does not reflect U. S. Treasury bill tra sections.
(b) Includes 34.3 million representing proceeds of U.S. Government checks deposited by Nar Supplies, Ltd.

B-Q

2.3
0.5

1.1

6.5
2.9

1.5
6.3

28.7
61.9

.

23.1

23.1

-

-

10.0

4.

2.3

11.8

3.8

2.6

11.8

0.5

0.5

0.5

0.2

0.5

0.5

.9.5

11.2

0.2

153

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE Oct. 1, 1942.

Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

H. D. White

The Brazilian Ambassador telephoned me at

noon today to report that he had telephoned to

President Vargas and had communicated the message
which you had asked him to communicate to the
Minister of Finance.

President Vargas stated over the telephone
that he wished to thank you very much for your

proffered assistance. He said the Minister of

Finance has taken all the necessary measures
which he hoped would be adequate. However,

President Vargas went on to say, if the measures
already undertaken by the Minister of Finance did
not prove adequate in the future, he would feel
free to call upon Secretary Morgenthau and would
do so through the Ambassador.

The President asked specifically that the
Ambassador convey his thanks to Secretary Morgenthau
for his kindness.

154
Treasury Department

Division of Monetary Research
Date
From:

Mr. deBeers

To:

- Glasser

10/1/42

19

Mr. White
#ernatein
Mexico

A break in the friendship between Ramon Beteta and
Ambassador Francisco Castillo Najera has occurred at a
meeting in Mexico City, according to the Mexico City Press

Apparently the break in this friendship has resulted from

their having different points of view with regard to

relations with the United States. Although the newspaper
article does not specify the exact topic of disagreement,
it may be the pending reciprocal trade agreement between
the United States and Mexico.

Apparently both Dr. Beteta and Dr. Castillo Najera
returned to Mexico about 10 days ago for the national
holidays there, and the Ambassador has insisted on the
necessity for Beteta to remain in Mexico. On September
22 Beteta went to the Ministry of Foreign Relations to

give an account of his work to Minister Padilla and to
give his viewpoint on various matters in opposition to
the views of Dr. Castillo Najera. On leaving the build-

ing Beteta encountered Dr. Castillo Najera and there
began an argument, the violence of which amazed the
onlookers.

It seens likely that as a result of this disagreement,

Dr. Beteta will not return to Washington to have charge
of Mexico's economic relations with the United States.
Source: Excelsior, Mexico City, Sept. 24, 1942.

155

OCT 1 1942

reply refer to

740.0011 Pacific War/2821

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I have received your letter of September 18, 1942
enclosing a memorandum prepared by Mr. William H. Taylor,

Alternate American member of the Stabilisation Board of

China, regarding conditions at Hong Kong after its
occupation by the Japanese.

This memorandum has been read with great interest
and the valuable information contained therein has been

added to that already on file in the Department pertaining
to conditions in areas now under Japanese occupation.
Sincerely yours,

The Honorable

Henry Korgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

156
NOT TO BE RE-TRANSMITTED
COPY NO.

13

MITISH MOST SECRET
J.S. SECRET

OPTIL No. 340

Information received up to 7 A.M., 1st October, 1942.
1. NAVAL

Our light forces attacked an enemy convoy off the Dutch Coast last

night. Full details have not yet been received but one hit is claimed. One of our
motor unboats WILD abandoned on fire and the C.O. of another was killed.

Attacks on shipping. From 26th to 29th September inclusive 12 ships
vero reported torpedoed (3 of them belated reports). One U.S. ship sunk in homo-

bound Russian convoy (in addition to 3 ships already reported lost). . A Panamanian

end 3 British ships (2 of them in convoy) sunk in Northwest Approaches. 3 shipe
(British, Norwegian and Panamanian) in West Atlantic, a Swedish ship in WEST INDIES

2 Brazilian ships off North coast of BRAZIL and a British ship in South Atlantic.
One British and one U.S. ship are overdue and a British ship previously reported
overdue is now believed sunk by surface craft.
2. MILITARY

MADAGASCAR. Leading elements of our forces from TANANARIVE are now

about 50 miles south of the Capital. Road blocks, demolitions and nor rain are
Blowing up the advance. In the TULEAR Area our patrols have advanced about 55 miles

along the road running North-East from the town.
RUSSIA. The Russians continue to attack the Northern and Southern

flanks of the German assault forces at STALINGRAD. There is little change in the
Eastern Caucasus but in the Western Sector north of TUAPSE the Germans are making
some progress.
3. AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 30th. 15 enemy aircraft crossed our consts. Two
are destroyed and two damaged. Some bomb damage WIS cone to saw mills at ASHFORD,
electricity works at NORTHING and railway property at ASHFORD, LANCING and CHICHESTER.

t two places in K-NT troops were attacked by machine gun fire. Two Whitleys are

vissing from BISCAY anti-submarine patrol. 31st. 27 sircraft were sent to lay
ines. Two are missing.
EGYPT. 28th/29th. Our bombers attacked TOBRUK and enemy landing

rounds. One of them is missing. 29th. Beaufighters destroyed or damaged 20
orrios between SIDI BARRANI and MERSA MATRUH.

RUSSIA. 30th. Russian aircraft raided several enomy aerodromes in
the KARELIA Area.

157
NOT TO BE RE-TRANSMITTED

COPY NO. 13
BRITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET

OPIAL No. 346

Following is supplementary resume of operational events covering
period 24th September to 1st October, 1942.
1. NAVAL

Damage and dislocation of traffic by Allied submarine and air attack
caused a marked decrease in the number of ships reaching LIBYA. 6 French submarines
passed GIBRALTAR westwards on 29th. The French ships AMIRAL PIERRE, 4400 tons, and
MARACHAL GALLIENI were intercepted in the Southern INDIAN OCEAN, the former scuttled

herself but the latter has been brought into port. It is possible that the Axis

announcement of Naval collaboration with the Japanese in the Atlantic may actually
herald sending German U-boats to the INDIAN OCEAN where the Japanese alroady have
sona four or more submarines operating between the GULF OF ADEN and the approaches

to the PERSIAN GULF. The half dozen U-boats believed in South Atlantic have not
been in evidence lately and may be bound for the Southern INDIAN OCEAN. One des-

troyer and 3 ships were lost out of a convoy of U.S. river steamers on 25th and
26th. This is believed to be the origin of the recent extravagant German claims to
have sunk a troop convoy. All ships were under 5,000 tons and none contained troops

A special submarine hunting force available for the first time, with a recent transAtlantic convoy, in addition to the normal escorts, proved its value against the
concentration of U-boats attacking the convoy. This convoy WELS also the occasion

of an attack on a U-boat by a Liberator flying 720 miles to the point of attack.
The number of U-boats operating in the ATLANTIC is still increasing. Provisional
figures for the week ending 27th give 13 ships sunk by U-boat, all in the ATLANTIC.

3 honeward convoys totalling 167 ships arrived without loss and 3 outward bound
totalling 73 ships arrived without loss. In the same wook 16 attacks upon enemy
submarines were made by British surface ships and 20 by aircraft. It is now reporte
that four promising attacks were made during the passage of the recont convoy to
MUSSIA and two during the passage of the returning convoy. Imports in convoy into
UNITED KINGDOM for week ending 30th were 759,000 tons including 276,000 tons of oil
Imports for August - 1,957,800 tons including food 709,400 tons, Ministry of Supply

1,179,600.

2. MILITARY

GERMAN ARMY. Present distribution of German Divisions - NORTH AFRICA
4, BALKANS and AEGEAN 7, FRANCE and LOT COUNTRIES 36 (including 1 newly formed
infentry division), GERMANY 45, DENMARK 2, NORWAY 7, POLAND 9, FINLAND 8, RUSSIA
178, total 296.
3. AIR OPERATIONS

300

WESTERN FRONT. No night bombing operations were possiblo but over

seg mines were laid. Out of 223 sorties on onti-submarine operations 3 aircraft

were lost. Bomber Command flow 40 sortion on BISCAY patrols. Several attacks by
night were made on enemy shipping off the Dutch Coast, one vessel of about 10,000
tons was hit.

MEDITARRANEAN. Our air operations were well up to average in number

of sorties flown, although there was no special activity over the battle aron the

canny was constantly harassed. attacks on continued in conjuncmining of the harbour. Axis were also subjected to night

lion with
Heavy
night
landing
grounds
bombing.
A 10,000
ton tanker
is believed
to have
boon hit byTQBRUK
B Wellington

off

TOBRUK and a Naval aircraft torpedoed an onemy destroyer.

RUSSIA There was no marked Russian activity in the far North or in
the L-NINGRAD area, although air support was given to Russian tank attacks at
RENEV. The Russian Air Force raided enomy occupied ports in the CRIMEA and bombed
TAMANSKAYA six times on 24th.
4. EXTRACTS FROM PHOTOGRAPHIC AND INTELLIGENCE REPORTS ON RASULTS OF AIR ATTACKS
ON ENEMY TERRITORY IN EUROPE

MUNICH. Casualties reported heavy and particularly sover damage
near the main railway station.

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-2RUHR AREA. Coal production for the RUHR, SAAR and AACHEN arous has

fallon from 440,000 tons to 360,000 tons per day. At the Rhein Prouseen mines
output fell 3,000 tons per day mainly on account of damage to workers dwellings.
Sconuse of damage to blast furnaces in GERMANY the Gormans have ordered blast furGLOOD at LONGWY and PONT A MOUSSON in Occupied FRANCE to resume full capacity

orking though majority have been out of action for two years. When DUSSALDORF
station WES hit an Express had just arrived. 50 passengers including some leading
Industrialists ward killed.
COLOGNE. The depot at BRIMEN has received no spare parts for Diesol

agines from the Humboldt Duotz works since the big raid. Over 1,000 spare engines
for lorries vero destroyed or damaged at an Army depot during this attack.
SAARBRUCKEN. Damage to ventilation shafts has caused a complete

suspension of work temporarily at some mines, repairs in certain cases will take
soal time.

OSLO. Loyal Norwegians were greatly encouragod by the daylight raids

on G:stapo headquarters.

SEA-MINING. In August a Gorman transport believed 7,000 tons was
susk in the KATTEGAT. She WOLD carrying 500 G.A.F. mechanics, 1,000 other personnel
in equipment. At lanst 100 persons were lost and 400 casualties landed. On 20th
September, 16 German southbound ships were hold us north of GOTHENSURG on account
of nines.

5. OPERATIONAL AIRCRAFT BATTLE CASUALTIES
METROPOLITAN AREA

British and Allied

Enomy

Prob.

In the Air
Bombors

Total

0

6

8

2
9

3

Total

3

1

Constal

8

Fighters

13

2

Fighters

3

Bombers

Dest. Dest. Damaged

24

MIDDLE EAST

(Including MALTA)

British and Alliod

6
0

15

4

Total

3

8

2

6
0
3

3

17

3

0

Fighters
Miscellaneous

6

Total

0

Others

Bombors

Damagod

3

Fighters

Dest.

On the Ground

0

Bombars

Prob.
Dest.

4

In the Air

Enemy

5

3 crows and 1 pilot ara safe.
FAR EAST
Enemy

No Alliad casualties reported

Probably
Destroyed Destroyed

7

41

2

Total

0

7

Fighters
Miscollanoous

0

27

2

Bombers

Not No account is taken of enomy aircraft destroyed on the ground in
any theatre or of British Naval aircraft casualties.
6. HOME SECURITY

Estimated civilian casualtiss for wook nding 6 A.M., 30th. Killed,
62, including 19 at HASTINGS and 23 at PETWORTH, 82 seriously wounded, including 30
at PERVORTH.

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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATEOCTOBER 1,1942
TO

FROM

Subject:

Secretary Morgenthau

Mr. Hoflich
R.A.F. "Mosquito" Bombing Raids.

The attached report of a B.B.C. broadcast
refers to the recent R.A.F. bombing of Oslo
Gestapo headquarters as an historio raid because of the new aircraft and the technique
used. The planes used were the new small

and speedy Mosquito bombers, which were flown

at roof and tree-top level, and at high speed,
rendering them relatively safe from enemy

fighter attacks. The R.A.F. has been experi-

menting with small-scale - Mosquito raids over
the continent for some time.

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AVIATION PASSES TWO MORE MILFSTONES

Military aviation wrote history in the recent bombing of an Oslo target and in

the defense of the last convoy to Ruscia, Oliver Stewart, editor of AFRONAUTICS
in London, asserts on BBC (Sept. 28, 6:30 p.m. FWT).

'Mosquito' Stings--On the bombing of Oslo Gestapo headquarters, he comments:

"The four 'Mosquitoes' used flew low all the way out and back. They were skimming the roofe and tree tops as Blenheim raiders did when they bombed the power
stations near Cologne late in 1941. But ve may assume they were much faster.
So the defense for our four machines was speed and lowness

No Room "Enemy fighters could find no room between the 'Moequitoes' and the

ground to get into the fighter's favorite position, just below the tail of the

machine attacked. And they had little time to do anything else because the

machines were moving 80 fast. The Focke-Wulf 190 fighters contacted one 'Mosquito' when its bomb doors were open and shot it down.

Hord Novigating--' "In low-level attack, navigation cells for the highest skill
in airmanship. Instead of being able to take a leisurely view of a wide
expense of ground, the navigetor morely sees trees and chimneya rushing past.

Delayed Action--"With these ultra-low-level attacks there's the danger of the
aircraft being hit by fregments of their own bombs. That's why delayed-action
bo: be are almost inveriably used. If they happen to hit a hard surface, they
may bounce quite a long way after leaving a low fast flying machine. They
don't have time to cleave over into the nearly vertical fall that you get from
high-level bombing.

Historic Raid "Smell as it was, the Oslo roid was undoubtedly a historic one
because of the !echnique used, and the new aircraft. I have little doubt we
shall see more of the high-speed daylight raid in the future."
More History--The expert turns his attention to defense of the convoy by carrier
borne hurricanes: "This operation also has its place in air war history
because it marks final abandonment of the idea that fighting aircraft which
worked with fleet at sea must be entirely different from fighting aircraft
which work on land.

U.S. Pioneers. "The U.S. Novy has for a long time been using land types of

single-seat fighters. It uses what they coll the Wildcat for this work, and
10 bringing into service the Corsoir which ought to be the fastest flying
fighter flying with any fleet in the world. "

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16

office of the Secretary
October 1
.19 42
Date

Secretary Morgenthau

To:

Mr. Hoflich
From:

Attached is the "Voice of the
nief" broadcast of September 29,

- reported by Federal Communications
camission.

'VOICE OF THE CHIEF'

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S.S. GUNMEN KILL REICH RAIL OFFICIAL

The clandestine transmitter "Voice of the Chief" with "Gustav
Siegfried Eins" broadcasting in German to the Reich (Sept. 29)
describes how a high Reich railway official in the Ukraine was
murdered by 8.8 gunmen because he had tried to stop the systematic plundering of supplies by party functionaries. Also,
the Chief hits at the acceptance by the Nazie of the Kolkhoz
system.

Murdered by 8.8 "On September 16, Reich Railway Operations
Chief Alfred Gerstmeyer was murdered not far from Zhitomir in

the Ukraine, while attending to his duties," says the "Chief".
"I am publicizing this case because it casts light on the mis-

management and lack of discipline of the 'Kommune' in the Reich
Commissariat, which most seriously threatens the supply situation of the front. "Gerstmeyer was not murdered, as might be
assumed in the homeland, by Russian guerrillas. He was wiped

out by the automatic pistols of S.S. assassins while trying
to prevent the plundering of a Reichabahn freight car. Here

are the facts.

Requisitioning Party "On September 16, five trucks of the S.S.
Security Police pulled up in front of freight depot 14 along the
Eastern Railway terrain, outside of Zhitomir. The leader of the

column, according to the rank insignia, was an S.S. Obersturmfuehrer. He displayed to Freight superintendent Wellmann a
requisition form and demanded that the meat packed in the shed
be handed over. Wollmann, who had heard of similar requisitioning campaigns of the S.S. and knew that the meat and other victuals were Army property, called an employee to fetch Gerstmeyer who just happened to be on an inspection tour of the area.
The S.S. plunderers apparently had not reckoned with Gerst-

meyer's presence.

Refused Request "Gerstmeyer not only refused to give up the
goods, but declared the requisition form to be inadequate and
suspicious, and said that he would get in touch with the proper

S.S. official to call this to his attention and put an end once
and for all to similar excesses. At this declaration of Geret-

meyer, shots rang out at once. Geretmeyer was hit by five
bullets in the chest and abdomen and died soon afterwards from
his
wounds.
An employee
help,
was likewise
shot. named Erich Scarbati, who wanted to

Tragic Results Wollmann was brought to the military hospital
in Zhitomir with a head wound. The S.S. murdering thieves

escaped in their trucks. All facts contained in the requisition

form, as learned from Wollmann, proved to be the purest swindle.
The names of the perpetrators could not be learned. What

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162

S.S. GUNMEN KILL REICH RAIL OFFICIAL

The clandestine transmitter "Voice of the Chief" with "Gustav
Siegfried Eins" broadcasting in German to the Reich (Sept. 29)
describes how a high Reich railway official in the Ukraine was
murdered by 8.8 gunmen because he had tried to stop the systematic plundering of supplies by party functionaries. Also,
the Chief hits at the acceptance by the Nazis of the Kolkhoz
system.

Murdered by S.S 'On September 16, Reich Railway Operations
Chief Alfred Gerstmeyer was murdered not far from Zhitomir in

the Ukraine, while attending to his duties," says the "Chief".
"I am publicizing this case because it casts light on the mis-

management and lack of discipline of the 'Kommune' in the Reich
Commissariat, which most seriously threatens the supply situation of the front. "Gerstmeyer was not murdered, as might be
assumed in the homeland, by Russian guerrillas. He was wiped

out by the automatic pistols of S.S. assassins while trying
to prevent the plundering of a Reichabahn freight car. Here

are the facts.

Requisitioning Party "On September 16, five trucks of the S.S.

Security Police pulled up in front of freight depot 14 along the
Eastern Railway terrain, outside of Zhitomir. The leader of the

column, according to the rank insignia, was an S.S. Obersturmfuehrer. He displayed to Freight superintendent Wollmann a
requisition form and demanded that the meat packed in the shed
be handed over. Wollmann, who had heard of similar requisitioning campaigns of the 8.8. and knew that the meat and other victuals were Army property, called an employee to fetch Gerstmeyer who just happened to be on an inspection tour of the area.
The S.S. plunderers apparently had not reckoned with Gerstmeyer's presence.

Refused Request -"Gerstmeyer not only refused to give up the
goods, but declared the requisition form to be inadequate and
suspicious, and said that he would get in touch with the proper

S.S. official to call this to his attention and put an end once
and for all to similar excesses. At this declaration of Geret-

meyer, shots rang out at once. Geretmeyer was hit by five
bullets in the chest and abdomen and died soon afterwards from
his wounds. An employee named Erich Scarbati, who wanted to
help, was likewise shot.
Tragic Results "Wollmann was brought to the military hospital
in Zhitomir with a head wound. The B.S. murdering thieves

escaped in their trucks. All facts contained in the requisition

form, as learned from Wollmann, proved to be the purest swindle.
The names of the perpetrators could not be learned. What

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other result could be expected, if the investigation is in the hands
of the S.S. Railway Police and the S.S. Security Service.
wide-Spread Food Raide "This is not an individual case. Everybody
knows about the food trains that are stopped and emptied, and about
food depots that are confiscated by the S.S. Everywhere the thieving commandos of the S.S. appear in their trucks and obtain, by
means of bribery, threats, or violence, food and other supplies

that they are not entitled to. On September 8, S.S. thieves
cleaned out an entire flour mill near Dniepropetrovek, and the night

of August 25-26, according to a report of (Colonel von Weggener),
the S.S. made a night-raid on the slaughterhouse in (Zhartunka).
They seized all the meat and in the course of their action seriously
wounded Corporal Leininger and Private Arthur Wittich.

S.S. War Effort "Such are the special contributions of the S.S. to
the supply struggle in the Ukraine, the products of which are already
80 sparse that the various civil and military authorities fight
each other for every scrap that is produced. And that in a country
which, if rationally administered, could supply the fighting front

as well as its own population. But thanks to the mismanagement
Co., the Ukraine has produced such a skimpy harvest that it has
become necessary to bring food supplies from the outside with the
of the Rosenbergs and Koche and Oppermanns and (Schoenes) and

greatest transport difficulties and sacrifices.

Faulty Kolkhoz System "The reason for this 18 to be found in the
basic error of mismanagement by the Reichcommissariat: It lies in
the Kolkhoz economy, against which the experts of the Wehrmacht
warned from the very beginning. But Rosenberg, that 'Kommune'

Viceroy of the East with his Bolshevist ideas, carries on precisely
the same murderous Kolkhoz business, which previously under Moscow

robbed the peasants of all personal initiative, and renders

impossible any agricultural upswing.

Same Bolshevist "Even if Rosenberg calls his Kolkhozes 'agricultural
communities a thousand times, and assures us a thousand times

that this is only a transitional period, it is still the same Bolshevist that he is carrying on. The only difference is that
instead of Russian Commissare, 'Kommune' Commissars are ruining

the land. Stop it! Stop the Kolkhoz economy, and the S.S. thieving
commandos, otherwise we will have a still harvest in 1943 and
a

supply set-up in the east, than we have now.

Homefront Bolsheviks- "The Gerstmeyer case and the whole awinish

the the front, wein the
have
rear,
happen
and and
takensecurity
out of theof

business in the Reichcommissariat prove once again that if we want

of to beat the slackers Bolsheviks and homeland out there Bolsheviks on and to that get will rid

territories only when the the homeland administration is hands the of conquered the 'Kommune and
and
is placed in the hands of those men who administer, protect,

keep order."

(Federal Communications Commission, September 30, 1942)

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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE October 1,194

Secretary Morgenthau
TO

FROM

Mr. Hoflich

Subject: Japanese and United States Pacific Naval Losses

1. U.S. Naval communiques dated September 22-30

reveal the following additional Japanese and U.S. naval

losses in the Pacific:
a. Japanese:

(1) Aleutians - one transport or cargo ship sunk,
(2) Solomons

two submarines damaged.

- three cruisers damaged, one transport probably sunk, and several
damaged, one seaplane tender
damaged.

b. United States:

Solomone - one destroyer and

three transports sunk.

2. Losses announced in U.S. Naval communiques since

Pearl Harbor total:
a.

Japanese - 153 vessels sunk, 26 probably sunk,
110 damaged.

b.

United States - 45 vessels lost, 12 damaged.

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Table I
Total Japanese Vessels Sunk and Damaged to Oct. 1, 1942
Combatant Vessels
Probably
Sunk

Sunk

Type

ttleships

reraft carriers

5

5

stroyers

26

nders

24

3

.

38

47

13

8

13

o

6

Z

0

4

1

5

13

Totals

11

4

1

6

11

here

Total

O

o

uisers
bmarines

Damaged

2

62

15

14

29

71

148

Non-Combatant Vessels
10

ansports

25

rgo and supply

44

scellaneous

Totals

OTAL ALL TYPES

14

4

0

44

13

6

59

12

3

10

24

39

141

.

12

2

et tankers

11

91

153

Also several additional vessels.

26

110

289

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Table II
Japanese Vessels Bunk and Damaged in Major Strategic Areas

I. Aleutian Islands (June 15 - Sept. 30, 1942)
Probably
Bunk

Type

ruisers

Sunk

Damaged

Total

0

1

6

5

estroyers

2

1

6

ubmarines

9

0

0

5

Transports

5

4

0

6

2

o

argo and Supply

6

1

linesweepers

5

0

0

2

iscellaneous

2

*
0

1

1

Total

13

2

22

1

36

II. Solomon Islands (August 7 - Sept. 30, 1942)
attleships

ircraft Carriers
ruisers
estroyers
abmarines

1

0

0

0

0

O

0

1

2
2

7.

7

5
1

1

3

o

1

enders

0

0

nkers

o

0

1

0

1
1
1

Transports

argo and Supply
Iscellaneous

Total

1

2

1

1

0

0

0

4

0

0

*

7

Also several additional vessels.

5

2

20

9

29

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167

American Naval Vessels Sunk and Damaged to Oct. 1 - 1942

Type

ttleships

Ircraft Carriers
uisers

stroyers
baarines

Demolished to
Prevent Capture

Lost
1

0

1

0

0

0

2

1

11

1

1

0

3

0

1

2

1

0

nkers

3

7

2

5

3

Total

18

0

1

nboats

oating Drydock

3

3

0

reet Ship

2

0

1

2

bmarine Tender

ansports

2

6

1

2

Ine Craft

Total

2

tor Torpedo Boats

Seaplane Tender

Damaged

4

0
1

0

0

3

1

0

0

1

4

0

1

0

6
2

1

0

1

O

0

1

36

12
9

57

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THE WAR

THIS WEEK
September 24-October 1,1942

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SEPTEMBER 24-OCTOBER 1, 1942

Office of Strategic Services

THE WAR THIS WEEK
While the Germans continue to hew their way slowly into
Stalingrad, both the Russian public and, especially, high
Soviet officials are asking insistently for the early creation of
a second front. Hitler's speech of Wednesday lends itself

to the interpretation that, with the fall of Stalingrad, the
Germans intend no further large scale operations on the
leastern front this autumn. The Nazis have, however, made
preparations for an attack on Leningrad, and the Finns are
reported to be debating as to whether they shall cooperate.
As Laval ousted from his cabinet the notorious collaborationist Benoist-Mechin (presumably for an intrigue with the

Germans and the Doriotists), it became evident that Nazi
pressure was increasing and that the position of Laval is
highly precarious. The latter is reluctant to conscript French
workers and his campaign for labor volunteers has failed to
approach German demands; as a sop to the Germans, it is
reported that Vichy is now releasing to them a considerable
number of interned foreign ships.

While the British are mopping up in Madagascar, General
de Gaulle has arrived in London, presumably to discuss the
future administration of the island as well as current diffi-

culties in Syria. The lull in Egypt continues. The enemy
has clearly assumed defensive positions and there is no great

likelihood of his renewing the offensive in the immediate
future.

With a return to relative normaley in the urban centers of
India, left wing peasant leaders are apparently organizing a
rural movement in behalf of the Congress Party which may
well produce considerable violence.
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Meanwhile in New Guinea the Australians have forced the

Japanese back toward Efogi, but reinforcements and the
enemy's rapid development of the supply route from Buns
will doubtless make him difficult to dislodge from this mous
tainous and jungle-clad area. Current Japanese expansion
in the Gilbert Islands will give the enemy bases from which
he could harass the Allied trans-Pacific supply line to Aus
tralia.

Street Fighting in Stalingrad
The tenacious defense of Stalingrad has continued for
another week, although the Soviet forces are now probably

split into two or three disconnected groups. Masses of
wreckage have impeded the German attack and have aided

the Russians in their street-to-street defense. The latter
have even been able to bring in some reinforcements and to
counterattack from the north. In the last few days, however,
the Germans have bettered their positions in the center of
Stalingrad and are now advancing into the northern part of

the city. Meantime, the German air force has bombed
Astrakhan, Saratov, and Soviet communications along the
Volga.

To the south, the Nazis, while noting progress in the
Groznyi area, have failed to claim any concrete gains
Reports suggest that they are now sending reinforcemental

to this area. In the Circassian Mountains, they have sp
parently penetrated the Goitkh Pass and are approaching
Tuapse, the last Black Sea port remaining to the Russians

in the North Caucasus.

On the center and northern fronts, the Germans have
counterattacked in the Rzhev sector, while before Leningrad,
Soviet attempts to relieve the city have thus far failed to break

through the narrow German-held strip east of the Nevs
and south of Lake Ladoga. In the Moscow area, the autumn
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rains have started. American military observers predict
that the condition of the roads in this sector will become
increasingly worse until the first hard freeze in November.
Mr. Willkie and the Second Front

Mr. Willkie's reception at Kuibyshev was extremely
cordial. But nearly everyone he saw, even down to the
workers of an aircraft factory which he visited, asked him
when the Allies would establish a second front. Mr. Willkie's
adroit parries included such statements as that the American
public desired such a front, that he himself expected it would
be established shortly, that such a front should be opened

"at the earliest possible moment our military leaders will
approve," and that he personally would do his best to advocate "active" aid for Russia when he returned to this country.
Meantime, public Soviet appeals for a second front have
continued to be of a temperate and persuasive character.
The Information Bulletin of the Russian Embassy in Washington points out the significance of Russian offensives on the
Eastern Front in 1914 and 1916 in easing German pressure on
the Western Allies, and concludes: "The experience of the
first World War indicates that one of the decisive factors in
the defeat of Germany was the unity of effort of the Allied

powers." The Soviet radio has similarly tried to convince
its English-language listeners by the reasonableness of its
arguments rather than by threats or warnings of imminent
Russian collapse-asserting that the Soviet forces are fighting
the battle not only of their own country, but of "all mankind."
Furthermore, Russian broadcasts have claimed that the
"overwhelming majority of the men and women of the United

States and of the freedom-loving people everywhere" are
convinced of the need "for immediate offensive action in
Western Europe, which is now long overdue.

" Now is

the time, the Russian radio insists: "Never was it more
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auspicious or more necessary than now to launch a powerful
offensive against Hitler in the west, while 90 percent of his
horde are tied down in the gigantic and desperate battle on

the distant Soviet front." Quoting a press despatch from
Ottawa, the Russian radio criticizes "the defeatist attitude
of those who argue the impossibility of a continental invasion."

In contrast to the comparative temperance of these radio
appeals, a high-ranking Soviet official, speaking off the record,

has presented the Russian position in unvarnished terms. A
second front, he asserts, is an immediate necessity, first, to
maintain popular morale and trust of the Government in the

Soviet Union; second, to bolster morale in the occupied
countries; third, to shorten the duration of the war. The
Egyptian campaign, he adds, is definitely not enough. But

an "additional African Front" would be satisfactory if it
diverted a sufficient number of German troops to enable the

Russians to take the offensive. After enumerating the
British, American, and Canadian troops in Britain, this
Soviet official has concluded that all that is lacking is determination.

Soviet Desperation

In conversing with Mr. Willkie, Foreign Minister Molotov
assured him that the Russians would hold the Caucasus and

that they did not plan to give up Stalingrad. Stalin was
evidently a good deal less optimistic. Furthermore, other
important Soviet officials have recently prophesied the loss
of Stalingrad and the Caucasus and the reduction of Moscow

to a condition of siege similar to that of Leningrad. This
prospect, they declared, was causing a slump in Soviet morale

extending even to the armed forces.

One official has added that Molotov's trip to Britain and
the United States was a terrible mistake, since it aroused in
Russia false hopes of a second front. In December, he
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declared, the removal of 20 Nazi divisions from the Eastern
Front to ward off an Allied invasion would have given adequate relief to the Soviet Union; in June, the departure of
50 divisions would have been sufficient. But now, the withdrawal of at least 100 divisions would be necessary. At least
one high-ranking army officer has gone still further-asserting that large elements in the Anglo-Saxon countries would
like to see Russia and Germany fight it out until they were
both exhausted, when Britain would be able to seize control
of the Reich. British official reluctance to talk of the current
status of Rudolf Hess, he offered as evidence of such a plan.
The Finns Debate Their Strategy

For two weeks now the Finns have been actively debating
whether to take part in a Nazi offensive against Leningrad,

according to advices from Helsinki. The General Staff
apparently favors the scheme, while President Ryti and
Marshal Mannerheim oppose it-evidently fearing the
political consequences, especially as regards Finnish relations

with the United States. According to the same source, the
siege guns from Sevastopol were moved up to the Leningrad
area about August 17, while the railroad between Narva and
the Leningrad front is now closed to civilian traffic.
In a speech to the Diet on September 25, Premier Rangell,

after referring to the Finnish "brotherhood in arms" with
Germany, declared that "the changes in the attitude to

have not induced us
Finland of certain foreign powers
to adopt a different line of foreign policy than the one

dictated by our country's vital interests." Similarly, President Ryti has declared privately that the United States is
primarily responsible for any deterioration in relations between the two countries and is willing to see Finland overcome by the Soviet Union. Meantime, an official statement
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tachés of the United Nations has added to the coolness of
Finnish-American relations. Toward the British the Finns
are still more unfriendly; Finnish seamen apparently believe
that the Soviet submarines which, they say, have sunk 88
many as 20 ships in the Baltic, are under the command of

British officers. Further evidence of increasing Finnish
dependence on the Nazis appears in the report that the Finnish Secret Police is now under the control of the German
Gestapo.

Intrigue against Laval

From all quarters the present Vichy regime is the object

of attacks and pressures. Laval has ousted from office
Benoist-Méchin, an active and ambitious collaborationist,
who had apparently been dealing behind the scenes with
German officials and with members of Doriot's Parti Populaire
Française.

The danger of the latter combination has apparently been
sufficient to warrant summoning Noguès to Vichy for a gen-

eral discussion with Laval regarding the suspension of all

Doriotist activities both in France and Morocco. One

report from Casablanca claims that, although they realize
that they may be obliged to flee to North Africa, Pétain and
Laval have decided to oppose any further attempts by the

Parti Populaire Française to plot their overthrow with

German aid.

The Benoist-Méchin-Doriot threat has also appeared in
North Africa. An attempt to kill Noguès in a plane crash
is reported, in which an active member of the Parti Populaire
Française (who recently arrived in Morocco with a special
travel order from Benoist-Mechin) has admitted complicity.
After a telephone conversation with Laval, Noguès has been

ordered to ship this agent back to Vichy. And in this connection, Admiral Darlan is said to be going to Casablancs
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on October 10, with the ostensible intention of inspecting
the troops.

Informants at Vichy agree that the immediate future of
the Laval Government is uncertain, but in general they feel
that the Germans are probably not yet ready to install a
Gauleiter. The Nazis may rather temporize with Laval,
keeping him politically alive on a day to day basis, even if
the labor returns are below demands. Pétain is reported to
have refused to consider Doriot, but one informant questions
whether the Marshal could not be softened on this point.
French Shipping and Labor

At the same time German pressure for French shipping
and labor persists. Thirty-six foreign ships, totalling approximately 127,000 tons, are at present being turned over to the

Axis, according to a reliable report from Vichy. These
include former Norwegian, Dutch, Danish, and Greek vessels
held by the French.

On the labor front Laval has published three decrees supple-

menting the new labor law, but he appears to be reluctant
actually to apply the labor mobilization measure. He has
stated that he has reached no agreement with the Germans
to use force in executing the decree, and that he would resign

rather than try to conscript French workers. Although
admitting that thus far not more than 18,000 skilled workers
have gone to Germany (compared with demands for 150,000),
Laval still hopes to raise a considerable number by promises

and threats, without use of actual force. In a clever press
campaign he presents the problem under the headline, "The
organization of labor and the relief of prisoners," and cites
the "new and substantial advantages" that will accrue to the
families of volunteers. Late reports indicate that the Nazis
may be content with fewer than 150,000 skilled workers, and
may waive the mid-October deadline tentatively established.
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The British Mop Up in Madagascar
Events in Madagascar continue to progress toward the
establishment of full Allied control. The purposes for

was may now be

stantially the occupation achieved. undertaken The considered which sub-

British, despite determined resist
ance between Tananarive and Antsirabe, are steadily pursuing

their drive to secure all vital lines of communication Mean
while the transition to military government, based on coop.
eration with the local authorities, seems to be proceeding

population of the

troops cheers, and the tricolor in
conformity the favorably. occupying with The volatile Anglo-American with capital still received flies

declarations that Mads

gascar's status as French territory is unaltered.
Meanwhile Fighting French headquarters announced that
General de Gaulle had arrived in London from Brazzaville
Observers assumed that the future administration of Mads.
gascar, as well as the situation in Syria, would be central in
his conferences with the British. It remains to be seen how
far London will accede to the Fighting French demand for
control of Madagascar's civil affairs.
Aris Defensive in Egypt

In Egypt and Libya action has been limited to and
Recent
indicate artillery exchanges. British raids and reconnaissance patrols

further regrouping of Axis forces in defensive

Afrika has

to support the Italian
divisions being positions. used that The Korps been motorized divided clearly and and armored is now

occupy most of the forward positions. The
enemy also appears to have established strong points to
resist British raids on his rear communications. Meanwhile
Allied planes and submarines have taken a steady toll of
Axis shipping in the Mediterranean.
The determined resistance of the Russians may have had

an important effect on the Egyptian campaign. At a time
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when the battered British Eighth Army and the Allied air
arm were being reinforced on a very considerable scale,
Rommel was denied any large land or air reinforcements.
Observers suggest that this must be explained either by the
extent of German commitments in Russia, or by deliberate

German policy of maintaining Rommel in North Africa
primarily to cause the diversion of Allied strength and Allied
shipping around Africa to the Near East.
Syrian Imbroglio

On his visit to Beirut Mr. Willkie was immediately ensnared in the Anglo-French rivalries in the area. The
British had hoped to present a sort of Anglo-American
demonstration of unity, and the French made every effort

to enlist Willkie support of the De Gaullist position. Mr.
Willkie himself appeared to be most interested in meeting
the local Syrian and Lebanese leaders, and was much impressed with President Naccacche of the Lebanon.
Rural Agitation in India

Events in India still reveal a contrast between the comparative quiet of the cities and continued agitation in the

rural areas. Although many textile mills in Madras and
Ahmedabad are still closed, most of the mills in Bombay,
Nagpur, and Calcutta are now in operation. The Tata steel
works at Jamshedpur are working at near capacity. In an
effort to keep manufacturing establishments open during
possible further disturbances, the Government has raised
its "dearness allowances" for railroad workers, and increased

allowances for other laborers are expected. New Delhi
observers also expect an increase in Army privates' pay from
23 to 30 rupees a month.

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ment paralleling irresponsible outbreaks of violence have
been apparent during the past month, according to an ob
server on the spot. With the regular Congress leadership in

jail,
are
Many can drive
British, our

just before his imprisonment he was launching his
left-wing of them observer peasant believe continues, leaders that only and that violence organizing that Gandhi's the movement statement out the

"greatest" campaign, a "do or die" effort, constituted &
tacit permission to his followers to use violence. Rural
blacksmiths are now fabricating crude, home-made weapons.
One peasant leader has stated in confidence that the planned

movement may not break out until December, but that then
it will be irresistible.

Meantime, the Indian press is carrying an increasing
number of stories about the current civil disturbances.
Although the Council of State in its final session at New
Delhi refused to lift the censorship, the Government has
apparently relaxed press restrictions on its own initiativeprobably in an effort to convince opinion of the gravity of
the situation. Already it has told the Central Legislature
that stronger police forces than those now available will be
necessary to keep the disturbances in hand.
Japanese Reverses in the Southwest Pacific

In the Port Moresby region, the tenuous Japanese supply

line has been steadily battered, and in one 3-day period

over Guadaleanal, American Army, Navy, and Marine
fighters destroyed 42 enemy aircraft and damaged 3 others
without loss of a single plane in combat. The chief reverse
of the Japanese, however, appeared to be developing in the

Port Moresby region, where for the first time since the
Japanese landed at Buna on July 21-22, Allied troops were
assuming the initiative.

Here, the fire of British 25-pounders (about the same
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caliber as our 105-mm. field guns) was apparently instrumental in halting an enemy movement south of Ioribaiwa
Ridge late last week, and in opening the way for an Australian attack later which has dislodged the Japanese from
their positions on the Ridge and driven them back toward
Efogi.

The disadvantages under which the Japanese are operating
in this area are tremendous. Their supplies must be packed

in on a track which traverses almost the width of the Owen
Stanley Range, and it is constantly subjected to bombing
and strafing attack. The Japanese nonetheless have succeeded in transporting some light artillery pieces of their own
across the range, as well as the light mortars ordinarily car-

ried by their jungle and mountain fighters. They are
reported now to be in process of constructing a corduroy road

from Kokoda, their advance base, toward Efogi. Japanese
troops in the area are estimated to number some 5,500 men,

complete with units of cavalry, engineers, and mountain
artillery. As the fighting again returns to the dense jungles
and high mountains of the interior, these troops will not be
easily defeated.

Movements in the Solomons, Gilberts, and Aleutians

Aside from air activity, the Solomon area was relatively
quiet. Fairly sizeable naval units were sighted in the northwest, centering on the Japanese base at the southern tip of

Bougainville Island, but neither battleships nor aircraft
carriers have been reported in this sector for some time.
Gizo, small Japanese-held island in the New Georgia
group,* apparently been evacuated. Within easy range
of our aircraft on Guadaleanal, Gizo had been attacked regularly since the Japanese first began developing it as a forward
base against our own newly-won positions in the Solomons.
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In the Gilberts, however, Japanese expansion continues
From bases in this island group, which lies not far south

of the heavily fortified Marshall Islands of the Japanese
Mandate, the Japanese might hope both to secure their rown line

of communications from the Marshalls to the Solomons and

to interfere with the Allied supply line from Hawaii

Australia and New Zealand. Makin, the northernmost of
the Gilbert Islands (which are British possessions), W&A
seized at the outbreak of the war and since that time has
been twice raided by American naval forces-the first time
on the occasion of our first offensive naval action in the
Pacific on February 1, and again on August 17 when Marines

landed and destroyed all installations. The island has since
been reoccupied, and Japanese control is known to have
been extended in the past six weeks to other islands in the
group. The Japanese have been busily engaged meantime
constructing defenses. So far these efforts appear to have
proceeded without significant opposition.
In the Aleutians, the Japanese apparently have evacuated
their garrison from Attu Island, consolidating these troops
with others on Kiska, their main base (200 miles to the east).
Ships and shore installations at the latter base were bombed
this week by a combined force of Canadian and American

aircraft-the first of such operations. Of ten float planes
sighted in the harbor, six were destroyed, and another was
shot down in air combat.
Supplies for China through Russia
The U. S. S. R. has agreed in principle to permit shipment
of supplies for China over the Trans-Caspian and Turk-Sib
Railroads, and a conference will soon be convened to work

out procedures, according to a highly placed observer.
Chungking's representative in Russia expects that the Soviets

will agree to permit movement of 19,000 tons of goods $
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year by rail from Ashkhabad (on the Iranian border) to
Alma Ata or Sergiopol, and that the Soviets will supply
4,000 tons of gasoline and 1,000 tons of lubricating oil a
year to maintain truck service through Chinese Turkestan.
In return the Russians will expect annual Chinese deliveries
of 4,000 tons of strategic materials (tin, tungsten, tung oil).
Russian permission for the use of Soviet railroads provides

the necessary link in a supply line which will run from
Karachi to Zahidan (Iran) by rail; Zahidan to Ashkhabad
by Iranian highway; Ashkhabad to Alma Ata or Sergiopol
by Trans-Caspian and Turk-Sib Railroads; Alma Ata or
Sergiopol to Lanchow and Chungking by Sino-Soviet Highway (The War This Week, July 23-30, pp. 21-23).
The distances involved and the difficulties of fuel supply
make it doubtful that this route can be sufficiently expanded
to provide a complete solution to the problem of regular and

substantial deliveries of supplies to China. However, the
some 1,500 tons a month of materials which are to be moved
under the prospective agreement will be a timely and impor-

tant contribution to Chinese needs. The India-to-China
air transport service has not as yet approached this rate of
delivery. Moreover, the Soviet agreement to permit passage

of supplies for China through its territory is not without
significance. Presumably, the Soviets are no more desirous
of provoking the Japanese than they have formerly been, and
the Russian gesture seems to indicate some Russian concern
over the Chinese need for supplies, and some belief that the

delivery of these goods is worth the sacrifice of transport
facilities entailed.

Politics in Turkestan

Meanwhile, Chungking has run into difficulties in its
attempts to secure complete control of Sinkiang, the hitherto
autonomous and Russian-influenced province through which
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the new supply line runs. Sheng Shih-ts'ai, long-time provincial war lord, has not been unwilling to cooperate with
Chungking in ridding himself of some Chinese Communist
rivals. These Communists have now been ousted from the
local administration, according to a reliable source. But
Sheng gives no signs of abdicating his own power, and
Chungking does not feel that it can rely on him.
General Ho Yao-tsu, chief aide-de-camp to the Generalis
simo, has been proffered the governorship of the province by

Chungking. General Ho refuses the honor unless all provincial armies are placed under his control. The question
as to the command of Sheng's army, which includes the White

Russian brigade he recruited some years ago, thus remains

the chief stumbling block to complete Kuomintang control
And Sheng Shih-ts'ai, who has long managed to combine
use of White Russian troops and reliance on Soviet political

support, is not likely to yield without a good bargain.
Continued Speculations on Japanese Intentions

Reports still indicate a wide variety of opinion as to
probable Japanese intentions. General Wavell has stated

that it is unlikely the Japanese will tackle anything 80
formidable as India or Australia under present circumstances

but that sooner or later they will attempt to "remove the
Russian menace" and "settle up the China business." A
high Finnish official has warned of Japanese preparations for

a "major land and sea campaign" directed against either
Russia or the United States. Madrid's envoy to Japan is
responsible for a report that the Japanese have already
failed in an attempt to mediate the Russo-German conflict
and are not likely to make another move.
General Chennault, on the other hand, believes that the
next Japanese drives will be designed to strengthen Japan's

two exposed flanks, the Solomons and Burma. As if to
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underline the prediction of impending Japanese action from

the Burma base, United States Army Air Forces in China
have renewed their raids on Japanese lines of communication
west of the Salween River.

Brazil Continues Drive against Axis Agents

The police drive against the widespread and deeplyimbedded fifth column in Brazil resulted in the arrest last
week of members of an Italian espionage ring in Rio de
Janeiro and a number of German priests and nuns in the
southern State of Santa Catarina. The German clergymen
are accused of operating secret radio transmitters hidden
under the altars of cemetery chapels. Their arrest corroborates reports, long current, that the Nazi overseas organiza-

tion utilized certain members of German Catholic religious
communities and the ministry of German Protestant congregations for propaganda and espionage purposes.

The Italian prisoners, headed by Papal Count Edmondo
di Robilant, socially prominent official of the former Italian
trans-Atlantic Lati airline, transmitted news of ship movements in the South Atlantic through a short-wave sender
hidden in a rabbit and guinea pig farm. These prisoners are
believed to be the agents from whom the Axis radio received
news last March that the Queen Mary had docked at Rio de
Janeiro.

Toward National Unity in Mexico?

Recent trends in Mexico indicate that President Ávila
Camacho is gradually developing a basis on which to build
a government of national unity capable of fulfilling Mexico's
war commitments to the United Nations. After appointing
ex-President Cárdenas as Minister of Defense, he has named
General Abelardo Rodriguez, also an ex-President and one
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of Mexico's most important business leaders, to the new
post of Coordinator of War Economy and Production. Far
apart on domestic issues, Cárdenas and Abelardo Rodrigues

fully support the government's international policy. To
gether they symbolize something approaching national unity,
with Cárdenas representing organized labor and the pess
antry and Abelardo Rodriguez representing Mexican indus

try, particularly that part associated with United States
capital. In this connection, the appearance of all six living
ex-Presidents with Ávila Camacho on the balcony of the
Presidential Palace at a recent patriotic celebration was
dramatic evidence that the Party of the Mexican Revolution
has become broad enough, with Mexico at war, to embrace
bitterly opposed rightist and leftist leaders of the past two

decades. It was a display of internal harmony unprece-

dented in Mexican history.

Nevertheless, outside the "revolutionary family", President
Ávila Camacho appears to be receiving considerably less than

complete support in his plea for national unity. The term,
to be sure, is widely used by intransigent ultra-reactionary
and "New Christian Order" groups, such as Acción Nacional

and the Union Nacional Sinarquista. They also call for
national unity, not for support of the war (about which they
make demoralizing or at best ambiguous statements), but for
the preservation of the family, the restoration of religious
education in public schools, the destruction of trade unions,
and the annihilation of communism. Actually, their program
is creating an atmosphere of civil war, with full support of
the less cautious pro-Nazi and Falange press such as Hombre

Libre and Omega. However, with both the conservative and

radical wings of the Revolution more firmly united behind
his war policies, Ávila Camacho may soon be in a position to

move with vigor against what is in effect a native fifth
column of considerable strength, which still holds important
positions within the government.
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APPENDIX I

THE GERMAN TEXTILE POSITION, AUGUST 1, 1942JULY 31, 1943

As the result of a large expansion in the output of synthetic fibers, Germany
will produce a sufficient quantity of textile supplies during the coming year to
cover essential military and industrial needs, but at the same time her textile
position will impose severe burdens upon the civilian economy, according to a
study of the Economics Division of the Office of Strategic Services. The quality
of fabrics will decline to a marked degree, both for military and civilian uses, and
civilians probably will be rationed at much less than 70 percent of the 1937 consumption level. This decline in quality of both civilian clothing and textile goods
in general, coupled with a situation in other consumer goods which is less satisfactory than that of previous years, may very well mean that civilian morale will
become a problem of outstanding importance during the coming winter, the report
declares.

Germany has now exhausted not only her own reserves of textiles and textile
fibers, but also those of the occupied countries. There is, moreover, no prospect
of improvement in the German textile position, unless the Nazis conquer Egypt

and obtain full economic collaboration from Turkey. Indeed, progressive
deterioration of the German position is more likely, although minimum military
and industrial needs will be met.
Supplies Available to Germany

Table I presents estimated prospective German supplies available from current
production. The figures are broken down by type of fiber and, where possible,
by source. A brief discussion of each estimate follows:
I This presentation is a summary of a larger study which analyses in detail German sources of textile supply, and the probable pattern of consumption.

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Hemp, etc.

4 300, 000

Flax, jote

500, 000
Rayon and

500, 000

3, 500

5, 000

1, 000

3, 000

5, 000

2, 000

19,500

2, 500
47, 000

10, 000
59,500

750
250

1, 000
3, 000

1, 000
2, 500

6, 000

2, 500

10,000

1, 000

2, 000

2, 000

10, 000

42, 000

[In metric tons]

Recovered

animal hair

Cotton I

New wool and

wool

(secured basis)

staple fiber I

TABLE 1.-German Prospective Supplies of Textile Fibera-Aug. 1, 1942-July 31, 1943

Total

Lithuania
Including the Old Relch, Austria, the Sudetenland, Alance, Lorraine, and

German Domestic Production ,

Turkey

for paper-making, mattress stuffing, etc.

. Total only: no attempt at country by country breakdown

I Recovered cotton and rayon have not been included to available textile

Bulgaria

Greece

Rumania
French North Africa

Italy

France

Hungary

Yugoslavia

Czechoslovakia, Poland, Estonia, Latvia and

Spain

Portugal

Russia

supplies, since it is unlikely that any appreciable amount of such materials

, Not including paper substitutes

will be garnetted and used for textile purposes; such materials will be used

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1. New Wool and Animal Hair. German supplies of wool can be increased
above the total given (42,000 metric tons) only if the Germans gain command of
the resources of Turkey. If, on the other hand, Germany were to lose all supplies
of wool currently imported from North Africa, the new wool available to her in
1942-1943 would be decreased by 25 percent. Otherwise, the German situation
has reached a relatively stable position and is not likely to change significantly
during the next two or three years.
2. Recovered Wool. The total tonnage in recovered wool likely to be available
to Germany is difficult to estimate, but the largest amount will be salvaged from
the armed forces themselves. If we take into account the number of men under
arms, the amount of textile equipment issued (with allowances for organisational
and regional differences), and the thoroughness with which the Germans salvage
textile materials on the battlefield, 37,000 tons of wool can probably be recovered
from this source. The civilian population has already been deprived of great
quantities of its woolen clothing and blankets, and probably no more than 10,000
tons can be added from this source. If we assume that there will be a decline in
the number of Russians taken prisoner in the coming year, and that the Russian
salvage and reclamation corps will itself leave less for the Germans to pick up,
the increment of recovered wool from this source may also be placed at about
10,000 tons.

3. Cotton. Germany can increase her supplies of cotton above the estimate in
Table I only if she gains control of the resources of Turkey and Egypt. Turkish
cotton would not be so necessary if Germany were able to conquer Egypt, where
as much as 100,000 tons might be available from the current crop, and considerably
more if accumulated stocks (estimated at 200,000 tons as of October 1, 1942) were
not removed or destroyed in time to avoid capture. As with wool, however, the
cessation of imports from North Africa would reduce the German cotton supply
by some 25 percent. (It is improbable that the Germans could obtain control of
Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, the chief Russian cotton producing centers, during
the period under discussion; hence this source has been excluded.)
4. Rayon and Staple Fiber. German output of synthetic fibers is adequate to
meet essential needs. In this connection, Germany has encouraged the expansion
of synthetic fiber production in the occupied countries, especially in France and
Belgium, so that these countries may meet part of their textile requirements while
the Nazis continue to strip them of their more valuable natural fibers (e. g., wool,
hemp, and flax).

5. Industrial Fibers. The estimate of 300,000 tons of industrial fibers is based
on a study of prospective 1942 European production of flax, hemp, jute, and other
industrial fibers, and of the part of total production that is likely to come into
German hands. Of the total estimate, 20,000 tons represent prospective imports
of palm fiber and alfalfa grass from French North Africa.
The Allocation of Available Supplies

-

1. Military Consumption. From the available supplies, militar, needs will be
met first. Table 2 presents a breakdown of estimated military consumption for
the coming year, based on the assumption that military, police, and other uniI Staple fiber is rayon filament which has been out into short pieces so that It can be spun, like cotton or

wool

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formed forces of approximately 11,240,000 persons will be maintained throughout

the year. Total requirements of textile goods for one year for these forces

fiber).
to about 157,700 tons (79,600 tons of wool and 78,100 tons of cotton and amount staple

TABLE 2.-Estimated German
Military
and Semi-Military
Aug.
1, 1942-July
31, 1948 Tertile RequirementsInitial issue I
(metric tons)
Organization

Annual
(metric tor

Number of
men

Cotton and
Wool

staple

Collecent

Wool

fiber

Army

Paratroops

Air Force

6, 990, 000

90, 200

89,600

50, 000

62,200

4, 500
13, 600

4, 500
13, 600

2,800

1, 500,000

Navy

1, 800

900

500,000

6,800

: 800

6, 800

6, 800

2,000,000

6, 300

2, 700

2,200

1,000

11,240,000

123, 200

118,100

79,600

78, 100

Uniformed non-military per-

I
per

300
5. 400

200,000

New call-ups
sonnel

5, 400

61,900

700
700

Because
of from
geographical
and organisational
differences,
man, and
to 35 pounds
of cotton per
man the estimates range from 7 to as pounds of weel

as Because
to 80 percent
issue.
of geographical
With and organizational differences, the estimates of annual maintenance range the
, Counted as annual maintenance for 1943-43.

. Policemen, firemen, postal workers, railway workers, women's corps, etc.

If events on the Russian front should allow Germany to demobilize large numbers of men and put them to work on farms and in factories, military requirements
would of course be reduced. The demobilization of 3,000,000 men for an average
period of six months between now and the end of July 1943, would reduce military
consumption by 25,000 to 30,000 tons. These men would require civilian clotb
ing, however, 80 that the net gain would not be great.
It is apparent that Germany has neither enough cotton nor new wool to meet
her present military requirements. All of the 42,000 tons of new wool and animal
hair probably will be used for military purposes, the deficit of nearly 38,000 too
being met by using recovered wool and synthetic fibers in about equal quantities
about 19,000 tons of either. Less than 20,000 tons of cotton will be available and
all this, too, probably will go to the army, for use in clothing, bandages, canvas,
and other such items. The deficit of more than 58,000 tons will be met by the
use of synthetics.

After a deduction for military requirements there remain available for other
purposes some 764,000 tons, as follows:
Tons

Staple fiber
Recovered wool

423,000

Flax, hemp. etc

300,0

41,000

764,000
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2. Industrial Consumption. In 1937, Germany had net imports of 275,210 tons
of industrial fibers, of which hemp, jute, and flax comprised the chief categories,
although fairly large amounts of sisal and coir were also imported. Total consumption of industrial fibers in that year amounted to 315,810 tons. Despite
the great changes which war has imposed upon the pattern of industrial consumption in Germany, wartime needs probably are higher than in peacetime. In
addition, Germany must now supply Austria and the Sudetenland. An estimate
of 400,000 tons of fibers for industrial purposes probably is not excessive. To
meet this, German supplies of flax, hemp, and similar fibers will not exceed 300,000
tons in 1942-1943.

Of this latter amount, some 280,000 tons will come from European production
of flax and hemp, while 20,000 tons of palm fiber and esparto can be imported
from North Africa through France. The remaining 100,000 tons will be obtained
by the use of rayon and staple fiber.

3. Civilian Consumption. After essential military and industrial requirements
are met, at most only 40,500 tons of recovered wool and 323,000 tons of staple
fiber remain for civilian use. If we assume a civilian population figure of 70,000000 (including Austria and the Sudetenland) and also assume that every pound is
actually made available to the civilian population, this supply would amount to
an average of about 11.5 pounds per capita. Average prewar utilization per
person was about 17 pounds.

This supply must cover not only clothing, but blankets, sheets, towels, blackout

cloth, carpets, and all other textile products. In all probability, however, Germany will be obliged to export some staple fiber in return for necessary imports
and, in the case of the occupied countries, in order to maintain output at the desired level. Moreover, if Allied bombings continue on an increasing scale, the destruction of wardrobes and household textile furnishings which must be replenished
will cut significantly into the stock of supplies normally available. Civilian consumption consequently will be reduced to a figure well below the average of 11.5
pounds per person.

The situation created is actually worse than the comparative consumption
figures would indicate, since virtually all of the textile materials available to civilians will consist of rayon and staple fiber, which are inferior both in warmth and

wearing qualities to the cotton and wool available in 1937. Moreover, these
synthetic fabrics disintegrate when laundered with the soap now available to
German civilians. Replacement is required more frequently than in previous
years. Hence mere quantitative comparisons understate the present civilian
situation.

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APPENDIX II

THE GERMAN SUBMARINE FLEET
(Revised Estimate)
1. June Estimates
Recent information necessitates a downward revision of the estimates of Go

man U-boat strength presented in The War This Week, June 25-July
The schedule of completions in German shipyards as calculated at that time called

for an increase in the total number of ocean-going U-bosta to about 335 at
end of August. Operational intelligence for August 25, 1942 places the total
number at 312. If the operational estimate is accepted and If the assumption of
a present sinking rate of 5 per month, rather than the former 4, and of a was
rate of one per quarter holds true, the discrepancy would suggest a delay of #
scheduled completions. Factors which may have contributed to these delays
according to British sources, include the unusually harsh winter, and bombing
attacks on shipyards. Part of the discrepancy may be due to the inapplicability
of the assumed building times to all yards, rather than to actual delays.
2. New Completions, September-December, 1942
Some of the boats whose completion was held up in the June-September period

probably will become ready during the period September-December, 1942 Bas
others scheduled for the same period will not come off the ways, since the earle
delays will have prevented the laying of some of the keels scheduled for launching

during this fall. Under the assumption that the effects of the two factors will
cancel over the latter period, total new completions during September-December

will still be in the vicinity of the number predicted in June: 100.
In short, the delays in completion which were suffered in the months preceding
August will not have been made up. While the estimated September-December

schedule of launchings might be, on balance, fulfilled, the total production &
gram for 1942 would still be lagging as the year closed.
3. Reduction in Rate of Commissioning
Even the assumed increment of 100 ships to the U-boat fleet between September

1 and December 31 will not, however, add that number to its actual, immediate

operating strength. A considerable fraction of the fleet will always be "on trial"new ships making their practice runs, old ships re-trialing and refitting. Open
tional intelligence indicates, in fact, that the proportion of U-boats on trial
rising markedly. At the end of August, 124 boats were placed in this category
Of these, about 35 had probably been completed during July and August and
were doubtless undergoing their first trials. About 45 more are believed to have

been refitting and retrialing-on the assumption that some of the May pletions were then in service, and that about one-fifth of the total fleet is on US
at any one time.
Subtracting these 80 which would "normally" be expected to be on trial from
the total of 124 given by operational intelligence, we find that some 44 ships
1 This study was prepared in the Economics Division of the Office of Strategic Services
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appear to have been completed before July but were still uncommissioned as late
M September. The accumulation of this back-log of U-boats is probably due not

only to a shortage of trained crews, but also to operational factors and to the
Naxis' failure to construct enough harbor installations on the French coast to
shelter safely the increased output of boats.
f Present Estimate-December, 1942

In tabular form, the predicted German U-boat position at the end of this year
CAD be summarized as follows:

Total strength, end of August, 1942

312

New construction

100

Ships commissioned from backlog

44

456

Losses due to enemy action:
5 per month

20

Wastage:

1 per quarter

2

Maximum total

434

5. Present Estimate of Nasi Atlantic Patrol
Of this estimated maximum of approximately 434 U-boats, about 50 should be

undergoing their first trials in December Boats retrialing and refitting should
increase to approximately 65. Accordingly, the Nazia should be able to deploy
a maximum of nearly 320 submarines in all areas toward the end of Decemberas against 190 at the end of August.

If the proportion of the total Nazi submarine fleet assigned to the Atlantic in
August should remain reasonably constant, we can expect two-thirds of the
German U-boat increase to appear at Atlantic and French ports. This would
bring the commissioned strength of the Atlantic submarine fleet from about 140
in August to 220 in December. If the same ratio is maintained between submarines in port and those on patrol (including boats in transit to and from their
(stations), the total number operating in the Atlantic would jump from about 90
at the end of August to nearly 130 in the last days of December, 1942.
Whether this rise in the size of the Atlantic sub-packs will actually take place
is another matter. British bombing raids since April have put a demonstrable
crimp in U-boat output, and the Nazis' apparent inability to commission all completed craft may indicate a serious bottleneck in skilled manpower. If Allied air
bombardment can be stepped up appreciably, and if the backlog of "non-commissionable" submarines continues its gratifying rise, the German U-boat schedule
may fall well short of even our revised prediction.

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APPENDIX III
PUBLIC OPINION IN
CANADA:
MANPOWER,
CONSCRIPTION,
AND
PARTY
ALIGNMENTS
Canada's growing manpower shortage and the continued opposition in Quebee

to overseas conscription are symptomatic of significant internal tension-in
view of an OSS observer recently returned from Canada-despite the fact that
Canada is outwardly far more tranquil than last Spring.
The Manpower Shortage

The gravest Canadian problem at present is the increasing shortage of mas
power brought on by the rival demands of war industry and the armed forees
Women already form about 10 percent of the total of Canada's war workers
Unless women can fill the needs of war industry to a much greater extent than
has hitherto been anticipated, it will probably prove impossible to apply the
conscription law even in case of need. Should the Canadian forces overseas
sustain heavy losses, the enrollment of replacements at home might prove
serious problem. Although Canada is proceeding with plans for the increased
use of women in war industry, there are signs of concerted opposition from Cath
olio leaders, especially in Quebec, who fear that placing women in factories will
mean a serious dislocation of home life.
Sentiment in Quebec

The opposition to overseas conscription, expressed in an overwhelming fashion

by Quebec in the plebiscite of April 1942 and by Quebec's vote against the 000
scription bill in the Parliament at Ottawa last summer, is now crystallising into
a so-called "political movement" which threatens to become a French Canadian
"third party." Its leaders are Maxime Raymond, M. P., long time opponent of
Canadian war participation, and Rene Chaloult, member of the Quebee Legislative
Assembly, only recently acquitted of a charge of seditious utterance. Reliable
reports suggest that the new party will attempt to wrest control of the Provincial
Government and Legislature from the Liberals-whose support of the conscription
bill has discredited them with the Quebec electorate. Later on, the new party
hopes to gain control of the Quebee delegation in the federal Parliament
The party platform, not yet formally announced, will probably sponsor uncount
ing opposition to overseas conscription and a limitation of Canadian participation
in the war. Furthermore, the party will doubtless make a determined effort W
wrest control of the natural resources of Quebec from the Anglo-Canadian and
American interests which now control them. Continued labor troubles at the
American-controlled Aluminum Company of Canada's great plant at Arvida
Quebee, might well play into the hands of such a nationalist movement.
The bitterness and discontent of French Canadians which underlie the forms
tion of a third party movement appear in recent Gallup polls taken in Queber
To a question as to whether they believed that Canada would participate in the
present war if the Dominion were not part of the Empire, 33 per cent of the
French Canadians asked replied "yes," 59 per cent answered "no," while 8
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were undecided (Anglo-Canadians: 81 per cent "yes," 14 per cent "no,"
cent
and 5 per cent undecided). To a question as to whether Canada could be congidered as a nation independent of Great Britain, only 25 per cent of the French
Canadians asked replied "yes" and 70 per cent "no," with 5 per cent undecided.
Among English-speaking Canadiana the proportions were 52 per cent "yes,"
42 per cent "no," and 6 per cent undecided.
More significant still was the answer given by French Canadians to the question
whether a Hitler offer of peace based on the status quo should be accepted.
Thirty-one per cent of the French Canadians replied that they would approve such
& peace, while 59 percent expressed disapproval and 10 per cent were undecided.
Among English-speaking Canadians the percentages were 86 per cent disapproving, 9 per cent approving, and 5 per cent undecided. In another poll in which
people were asked to state their preference for or against conscription, the percentage of French Canadians voting against conscription increased from 88 per
cent in a poll taken in April to 90 per cent at the present time. On the other hand,
the percentage of English-speaking Canadians approving conscription increased
from 68 per cent in April to 78 percent in August of this year.
The Anglo-Canadians

Anglo-Canadian tempers are rising at Quebec's continued lukewarmness about
the war and her continued refusal to accept overseas conscription in a war in which
they are convinced the very existence of Canada is at stake. Even among those
English-speaking Canadians who are usually tolerant of the French Canadian
point of view, the demand is growing that Quebec's extremist press be curbed
and that any evasion of military service by French Canadians be dealt with in the
sternest possible fashion. Irresponsible elements even go so far aa to say that
Quebec opposition should be "cleaned up" by force of arms. On the other hand,
French Canadian extremists state that since the plebiscite scarcely more than 25
percent of the French Canadians summoned for military service for home defense
have answered the draft call. And in Quebec one hears exaggerated stories of
insults and threats of violence to the French Canadian population by Englishspeaking soldiers passing through the province on troop trains.
The C.C.F. Party and Quebec

The two major Canadian parties-Liberal and Conservative-are alarmed at
the rising influence of the C. C. F. Party (Cooperative Commonwealth Federation), especially in the west and among the younger generation. In the event of
a provincial election in Saskatchewan, prominent Liberals concede that the
C.C.F. may well carry the province.
Last summer, the C. C. F. made a decided bid for French Canadian support
by throwing its Parliamentary vote against the overseas conscription bill. AngloCanadian partisans of an all-out war effort have denounced this maneuver as a
repudiation of the party's previous position. Actually, however, the stand of
the C.C.F. on the conscription bill was on the whole consistent with its demandsdating back to September 1939-that there should be no conscription of men without a conscription of wealth.

The C. C. F. is now attempting to capitalize on its anti-conscription stand by
sending French-speaking political organizers into Quebec for the first time in the
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Party's history. Although the C. C. F.'s brand of mild socialism is not popular
with the Catholic clergy, many nationalistically-inclined priests might support
the C.C.F. to get revenge on the Liberals for what they consider the "sell our
of Quebec on the conscription issue. If the present trend to the C. C.F. about
continue,
it is possible
that official
its parliamentary
the
Conservatives
as the
opposition.delegation at Ottaws may supplan
The Dieppe Raid; Canadians and the United States

Canadian reactions to the Dieppe raid were on the whole very favorable
Although distressed by their large losses, Canadians were proud that their troops

at long last had figured 80 prominently in a hazardous operation. Some Case
dians resented the exaggerated claims of certain American newspapers that
United States Rangers had played an important part in the raid, when they wel
knew that scarcely more than a handful had been actually involved Only it
nationalistic French Canadian circles was the criticism expressed that Canadian
rather than British troops had been chosen for so dangerous an enterprise.
Canadian public opinion, which has been extremely favorable to the United
States since the fall of France and the Battle of Britain, seems once again to be
veering towards greater dependence on the mother country. While the United
States was not a belligerent, it was possible for Canadians to feel that, while
cooperating with the United States in defense of this continent, the Dominion WM

nonetheless playing a superior role as the only North American power which
had aided Britain in her hour of need. With the American war effort taking 00
vast proportions, Canadians are returning to their habitual feeling that their

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of

own efforts are overshadowed by those of the United States. Moreover, Quebee's
uncooperative attitude towards the war effort is increasing the uneasiness of the
Anglo-Canadians and making them more conscious than ever that they themselves today constitute a bare majority of the Dominion's population. The result
is a resurgence of colonial-mindedness on the part of Anglo-Canadians throughout
the Dominion and a consequent inclination to seek refuge in the age-old ties