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UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

COORDINATOR OF INFORMATION
WASHINGTON, D.C.

May 23, 1942

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.
Dear Henry:

The attached is an analysis
of German home propaganda for the period
May 13 to May 20.

Sincerely,

mil

William J. Donovan

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SECRET
COORDINATOR of INFORMATION

1. Primary propaganda themes within Germany:

A. Homeland must be worthy of front, cheerfully producing weapons bearing burdens. Be more polite. Magnificent German women can work harder. Farmer can

d'eliver more. Anti-inflation drive growing. B. Negative: Ban on forecasts of general offensive or of expected

results this summer. C. Kerch victory exploited sur-

prisingly little. Only two commentators (Fritz Theil,
May 16 and a colonel, Chief of Staff of Army Corps,
May 18) allowed forecast cautiously: Theil "Capture

Kerch prelude greater events". But same day Theil
took precautions, referring British "commitment policy"
saying "Listeners familiar Churchill's method asserting
Germany has certain aims, which of course in fact she
has not, so that he can construe German success into

failure."
2. Bans down in handling treatment given

Russians, front reports included German pilots telling
how they tried kill Russian pilot parachuting earthwards.
3. Front report May 13, killed by DNB,
after circulation and broadcast, referred "Bolshevik

resistance flares grimly, serious situation Kerch".
Apparently Kerch offensive meant be shown as lightning
advance against weak opposition.

4. Main line internal party propaganda appears
based on Gauleiter Wagner speech Heidelberg meeting

political leaders May 10: "Brave soldiers assured party

backs them, will prevent political forces spoiling
what army achieved. We must be hard with ourselves,

others. We political leaders must set good example.

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SECRET
COORDINATOR OF INFORMATION

1. Primary propaganda themes within Germany:

A. Homeland must be worthy of front, cheerfully producing weapons bearing burdens. Be more polite. Magnificent German women can work harder. Farmer can

d'eliver more. Anti-inflation drive growing. B. Negative: Ban on forecasts of general offensive or of expected

results this summer. C. Kerch victory exploited sur-

prisingly little. Only two commentators (Fritz Theil,
May 16 and a colonel, Chief of Staff of Army Corps,
May 18) allowed forecast cautiously: Theil "Capture

Kerch. prelude greater events". But same day Theil
took precautions, referring British "commitment policy"
saying "Listeners familiar Churchill's method asserting
Germany has certain aims, which of course in fact she
has not, so that he can construe German success into

failure."
2. Bans down in handling treatment given

Russians, front reports included German pilots telling
how they tried kill Russian pilot parachuting earthwards.
3. Front report May 13, killed by DNB,
after circulation and broadcast, referred "Bolshevik

resistance flares grimly, serious situation Kerch".
Apparently Kerch offensive meant be shown as lightning
advance against weak opposition.

4. Main line internal party propaganda appears
based on Gauleiter Wagner speech Heidelberg meeting

political leaders May 10: "Brave soldiers assured party

backs them, will prevent political forces spoiling
what army achieved. We must be hard with ourselves,

others. We political leaders must set good example.

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Nation always destroyed solely through leaders weak-

ness. We must endure restrictions daily life".
5. Propaganda ministry refrains claiming
credit for lull RAF attacks, no mention German retaliation as cause therefore, gives publicity German qualitative rather than quantitative air supremacy in West.
Airplane FW 190 given most publicity linked with

increase publicity German scientific research

6. Probably important significant policy
change indicated when Deutschlandsender May 16 reported
Roosevelt's Lend-Lease delivery statement ($600, 770, 000

in April, grand total 3.8 milliard dollars March 1941
to April 1942). That this no accident seen in Das
Reich May 10 article discussing "record United States
budget--present United States expenditure twice that

of British. Before end 1942 United States would be
spending three times daily as last war". Note: Suggested explanation is that these facts show we already

making vast efforts with apparently little result;
also they might remove fear American vast resources not

yet thrown into war scales.
7. In addition number 6, home propaganda

may be undertaking attack directly U.S. production
capacity. Das Reich May 10 two page article "Land

Der Bergrenzten Moglichkeiten" and additional article
same issue subtitled "Das Ende Amerikanischer Lebensart".

It is expected further use will be made American rationing, raw material shortages.
8. No concealment American deliveries to
Russia. One method of dealing with far-flung American

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activities, BBZ article May 16, "U.S. squadron forced
operate six thousand kilometers from home".

9. Intensive attacks on American unculture
and exposures weak internal position probably caused
by return 605 Germans from U.S.

10. New high point reached identification
America with Jews. Great stress on Roosevelt's war
guilt and all-pervading Jewishness of America. PWE
explains by fact many Germans unable understand why

Hitler declared war on U.S. One object this line is
to show Hitler had no choice.
11. Apparent standard directive home propaganda to show only allied successes are gained at each

others expense: America takes British colonies, North
Ireland; England grabs Madagascar; Russia takes Britain's
middle eastern spheres.
12. Important: German home propaganda said

practically nothing about Martinique; mentions France

slightly, non-committal.

13. Interesting note: "Europe in Battle"
radio reports 7:15 PM gave features in this order:
Slovaks fighting on Russian fronts May 14; Rumanians

fighting there May 15; Finns, on May 16. Italians got
fourth place May 18 followed by Croats on 19.

14. Incidental intelligence: Die Woche,
not warned about Madagascar, published illustrated

feature showing Island's resources, value to Japanese,
on April 29.
15. The word "Demokratie" allowed be used

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in proper sense by Professor Lacroix in speech April

21 at Rafolfzell in Wintervortraf of Volksbildungswerk.
Following line recently revived by Goebbels in Das
Reich, Lacroix said "ERST HITLER HAT DIE ERSTE UND
EINZIGE DEMOKRATIE DER WELT GESCHAFFEN, DIE AUS DEN

VOLKE SCHKECHTWG GEFORMT IST". Term still used as

abuse but seems likely charms totalitarianism no longer
great enough permit total scorn for whole concept
Democracy.

16. Anniversary Hess's flight unmentioned.

17. Berlin Victor: B. May 1, lead story
titles "DIE NIEDERTRACHTIGSTE LUFE DIESES KRIEGES" deals

with alleged Boston broadcast quoting Rosenberg "Poorest

part population most hit air raids, is no particular
value to State". This exposed, discredited, as "Dirty
trick and favorite artifice" of American propaganda.
Note--this famous quotation, says PWE, comes in article
by Major Suchsland in review probably sponsored by
Rosenberg in 1936.

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COPY NO.

BRITISH MOST SECRET

(U.S. SECRET)

OPTEL No. 169

Information received up to 7 A.M., 23rd May, 1942.
1. NAVAL

Barents Sea. It is reported that on the 14th
a Russian Submarine sank a Destroyer and that Russian

Aircraft damaged another which is believed to have sunk

later. On 16th Russian Naval Aircraft are said to have
sunk a third Destroyer.
2. MILITARY

BURMA, Chinese Front. The Chinese force in
Northern Burma is withdrawing towards China through the

hills of North of Myitkyina. On Burma Road Front.

No.

change. Around Kengtung, the Chinese withdrawal into
Yunnan continues under enemy pressure. Japanese occupa-

tion of Fort Herz is not confirmed.
3. AIR OPERATIONS Western Front. 22/23rd.
27 Bombers were sent to St. Nazaire and 18 others soa

mining all returned safely. Heavy cloud hampered operations at St. Nazaire but the sea mining was carried out
successfully.
MALTA. On morning of 22nd. 20 Messerschmidts 109's

crossed the coast and 4 of them attacked Hal Far. One was

shot down by Spitfires.

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BRITISH MOST SECRET

(U.S. SECRET)
OPTEL No, 170

Information received up to seven A.M., 24th
May, 1942.

1. MILITARY

Nothing of importance to report.
2. AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 23rd. Eleven squadrons of

Spitfires carried out a sweep over Northern France, one
enemy fighter was destroyed and five were damaged. Two

Spitfires are missing. Eight enemy aircraft flew over
this country, one Heinkel bomber was destroyed,
MALTA. Between five twenty P.M. 22nd and

two fifteen P.M. 23rd seven bombers and forty-eight fighters

flew over the Island, four aircraft were destroyed and six
damaged. Two Spitfires were damaged.

LIBYA. 21st and 22nd, A total of 35 of our
bombers and 50 Kittyhawk fighters, some carrying bombs,
successfully attacked camps at EL TMIMI and landing grounds
at MARTUBA. On 22nd our fighters engaged twenty ME 109's

destroying one and probably destroying another. We lost
3 Kittyhawks.

CRETE. Night 19th/20th. Eight Wellingtons,
one of which is missing, bombed HERAKLION aerodrome.

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May 25, 1942
9:05 a.m.

TAX PROGRAM VERSUS WAR BONDS

Present: Mr. Graves

Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Bell
Mr. Haas

Mr. Paul
Mr. Blough

Mr. Kuhn

Mr. Tarleau
Mrs. Klotz
Mr. White

H:M:JR: Have you got that table for me? Could I
see it, because I see that Mr. Bryant of the Wall Street
Journal has a table, too. (Mr. Blough handed chart to
the Secretary) If you deduct your income tax and your
War Bonds and your pay-roll tax - you don't do both, do
you? Isn't he wrong?
MR. BLOUGH: He is wrong on his pay-roll thing.

H.M.JR: I mean, you can't do both.
MR. BLOUGH: Yes.

H.M.JR: But pay-roll tax - you get a credit against

your income tax?

MR. BLOUGH: No, they are separate and distinct.

H.M.JR: I mean, you pay ten percent and-MR. BLOUGH: That is three percent.
H.M.JR: Three?

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-2MR. BLOUGH: Three times sixteen is forty-eight.

H.M.JR: Is that his social security?
MR. BLOUGH: As a matter of fact, it is only one
percent, it is only sixteen dollars. That is all that is
really taken out.
H.M.JR: Is that wrong then?

MR. BLOUGH: I haven't read the article, so I don't

know. He may be including some increases which have been
recommended. He is including the Administration recom-

mendations to triple social security pay-roll taxes.
(Mr. Blough referring to table.)

This does not take that into account. Single person,

no dependents - annual wage of these various levels, reduced

to weekly wage by dividing by fifty. Social security deduction at the present time is one percent, so that is twentyfour cents. This is the level. The income tax withheld at
its source would be ten percent on all amounts over eleven

dollars for this fellow; that would be one dollar and
thirty cents; the two combined, 'one dollar and fifty-four
cents, and ten percent of wages as a Savings Bond quota

would be two dollars and forty cents. Total deduction

for taxes and bonds, three ninety-four, and then down here

you have it in terms of percents of the income effective

rates. That, then, is married, and this is single, no

dependents; the next sheet is married and no dependents,
and then there is a third sheet, married and two dependents.

H.M.JR: I will work with this.
MR. BLOUGH: I have some copies if you wish them.

H.M.JR: What the purpose of this is, I talked with

Bell and Graves, and Mr. Graves told me over the telephone
Saturday that with the recommendation of the Treasury for
withholding tax our War Bond program would be a failure.

In view of the seriousness of that statement, I thought

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we had better get together bright and early, and in
preparation for that I asked to have these things prepared as to how much the various items would take.

did was with him

The President did the same thing twice on me. He
and then he did the same

two-thousand-dollar it Friday morning
family,
I alone,
taking thing a
the thing
waswhen
that we
were

thatgroup
in Cabinet.
He in
hard.
thought
hitting
He did too
it twice
the same
day,
and
the only result of that was that Jesse Jones brought up
the question, of giving a credit to people in debt, and
that seemed - to those who wanted to pay off their debt,

and that seemed to strike a sympathetic chord all around.

MR. SULLIVAN: That was at Cabinet? I got it Saturday.
H.M.JR: Friday afternoon.
MR. SULLIVAN: Knox and Tydings, they crawled all over

me, and I didn't know that you had taken the position--

H.M.JR: Well, I didn't take any position, because I
have got somebody representing me on the Hill. I don't

take a position until I talk to them about it. Otherwise,

we couldn't get very far; but I see that Walter George

spoke about that - I think it was on the debt thing. I

think he came out Thursday.

Well, what I would like to do would be if you (Paul)
would take the positive position on this pay-roll thing,
and then let Harold argue with you - I mean, I would like
to listen, and I promise to chime in occasionally.
MR. PAUL: Well, of course, on the item of - I don't
know whether you want to consider the practical end of it
first before you make the arguments - on the practical
end, they are going to vote on it this morning.
H.M.JR: I see.
MR. PAUL: Our three principal arguments for collection at the source have been that with such a large number

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-4of taxpayers, twenty-eight million, low incomes, subject
to tax, it is a great convenience to the taxpayer to have
it collected at the source; second, that it has a very
great control effect on inflation to make advance collections; and third, that you collect more money that way.
You collect more money in that you collect at the source,

and therefore get some money from a lot of people who
otherwise would never pay any tax, and you couldn't admin-

ister the tax and get those payments. Well, so far as
this problem is concerned of tying into the voluntary
savings program, it seems to me there is a lot of misapprehension. I talked with Admiral-what is his name?
MR. GRAVES: Conard.

MR. PAUL: At first he thought we were trying to
withhold at the rate of ten percent. We are not, because
we give an exemption, we withhold on a net basis, and

the withholding actually comes to about five, five to six

percent. So that there it seems to me a matter of education, and it doesn't seem to me that fifteen percent,

aside from social security withholding at this time, with
rationing going in, is going to be more than the public
can stand.

At any rate, so far as collection at the source is
concerned, it does seem to us that practically the future

of the income tax is wrapped up in that device in the
sense that if you don't - as soon as you get from a rich
man's tax to a general poor man's, or everybody's tax,
you have goi to have it. The tax simply won't work out.
Now, I think - another thing to be borne in mind is that

this won't go into effect until about the first of the year,

because the Bureau - the attitude of which toward it can
only be described as extremely apathetic - won't get into
operation before the 1st of January, the way things look now.

H.M.JR: Well, I just am making - for the record, the

thing that always bothers me every day is that I make so
many decisions, and luck has been with me. I don't think
I made too many mistakes, but this thing, what happened

was - I mean, just to review the record, I told Graves -

we originally proposed--

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-5(Mr. White entered the conference.)

H.M.JR: Harry, we are talking about the pros and
cons of the withholding tax. The original proposal was
that we would ask for a one to ten percent discretionary
tax, discretion resting with the President and with the
Secretary of the Treasury. Then Paul came to me and said
that he thought that the fight would center on giving
the President and myself discretionary power rather than
a withholding tax, that he recommended that we go for the

ten percent and forget the discretion. Is that right?
MR. PAUL: That is right. In addition to that, what
I said to you then - I think there is the additional
reason that you said in your message of March 3 something

to the effect that since we do not know what the inflationary picture is, as you didn't know March 3 - you
certainly know now that it is a very dangerous picture,
and if you had the discretion, assuming Congress would

grant it - and they wouldn't without a long fight - if

you had it, you would be on the spot to make the ten
percent, so I think that the difference is highly academic.
H.M.JR: Well, to finish my thought, where I made a
mistake, and where I blame myself, is when I said, "All

right, go to ten," and I didn't give everybody a chance
to get in on the discussion. I gave you a horseback
opinion. What bothers me now is this whole question of
the timing. Now, I didn t know that you couldn t put

this in until the 1st of January. It is the first I

had heard that. The last time we talked about it, it was
July 1.

MR. PAUL: It is going to take the Bureau three

months to get the plan in operation. If the bill isn't
passed until September 1st, it won't go into effect until
December--

MR. SULLIVAN: No, I don't think that is so.
MR. PAUL: That is what Helvering said.

MR. SULLIVAN: I know it will take three months, but
as soon as the House votes on this thing, and we have an

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idea of the rough outline on it, we can then start.
MR. PAUL: But, you can't hire any people until it

is in the final bill. You have got to hire ten thousand

people, according to the Bureau.

MR. SULLIVAN: Eighty-five hundred.

MR. PAUL: They have put it up since then. You
can't hire any of those people. You can plan it, you are
quite right.
MR. SULLIVAN: I think, Mr. Secretary, there are two
possible ways out of this. One is reducing the rate, which

I would be loathe to do. I agree entirely with everything
Randolph has said about withholding tax, except I don't

feel that the future of the income tax rests solely on the
adoption of withholding. But I feel this way, sir, that

you can reduce the rate from ten percent to five percent,
which I would be loathe to do, or you can announce-(Mr. Tarleau entered the conference.)
MR. SULLIVAN: I think if it were announced today or

tomorrow that it is contemplated that there will go into
effect, say, November 1st, and perhaps written into the

bill that it will take effect November 1st, that brings
the date when this first goes into operation-H.M.JR: What date did you say?
MR. SULLIVAN: November 1st.

H.M.JR: And you are known around this Treasury

particularly for what quality?

MR. SULLIVAN: Promptness.

H.M.JR: I know, but out of your many good qualities?
MR. BELL: Think up a good one.
MR.SULLIVAN: I don't know what you are driving at.

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-7H.M.JR: Let's got over it once more slowly. What

date did you suggest?

MR. SULLIVAN: November 1st.

H.M.JR: And that doesn't bring anything to your-MR. BLOUGH: He means the 15th, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.JR: What day is election day?
MR. SULLIVAN: I should think it would be about the

fourth, isn't it?

MRS. KLOTZ: He got you.

MR. SULLIVAN: Of course, he got me flat-footed; it
never entered my mind at all.
H.M.JR: You have been away from New Hampshire too
long, boy.

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, but I would have had a call before

noon if I had slipped. What I am driving at is that as
long as the date when it first takes effect is not more than
six months ahead of March 15, you are bringing together the

time when you take the money away from them and the time

when they receive the benefit of them. Now, once you get

over that hump, I don't think that this is going to interfere with bond sales. For instance, if this goes into

effect the 1st of November, or the 15th of November, then
your bond sales in March and April are going to be much bet-

ter than they would be if you don't have a withholding tax.

H.M.JR: Well, politician Paul mentioned January 1st.
What are you fighting with him for about it?
MR. SULLIVAN: I am not fighting.
MR. BELL: Only a month and a half.

H.M.JR: Politician Paul says January 1st.
MR. SULLIVAN: Well, an announcement to that effect,

I think, would completely cure this situation, at least

for the time being, and give you your fair chance to make
June and July quotas, don't you, Harold?

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-8MR. GRAVES: No.

MR. SULLIVAN: You mean if it is announced that they
are not going to hold out anything in wages in the year
1942?

-

H.M.JR: Go ahead, Graves.

MR. PAUL: There's another thing I ought to-H.M.JR: Do you mind? I mean, I am being wonderful,
I am bursting, but go ahead, Graves.
MR. GRAVES: Well, answering John's question, I

think any announcement at this time that there will be a
withholding will have an adverse effect on bond sales
under the pay-roll allotment plan immediately.
H.M.JR: Under what plan?
MR. GRAVES: Under the pay-roll allotment plan, bond

sales under the pay-roll allotment plan, which is, of
course, the largest, by all odds, factor of our program.

Any announcement now that there is to be a withholding,

either in the form of taxes or compulsory savings, or any

other form, so long as it comes off the pay roll, is going

to have an adverse effect at once on this bond drive.

MR. SULLIVAN: That has already been made, hasn't it,

Harold?

MR. GRAVES: No. The thing stands tentatively at the
moment. All that has been said is that the Treasury has
recommended such a--

MR. PAUL: Well, the recommendation is about to be

voted on this morning, but have you this in mind, too,

Harold, that this really is an advance collection of 42
taxes?

MR. GRAVES: Yes, I have it in mind, and we sent out

a wire on Friday to all of our state administrators, calling
that especially to their attention, because this is a thing
that is apt to be much misunderstood, and a thing which I
think has been much misunderstood, but I don't think that

meets the point.

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-9I think if you were ever to have a withholding tax,

we will say an advance payment of income tax, such as

this, that at once cuts into bond sales on the pay-roll
allotment plan. I mean, when it becomes effective it can't

help but reduce very substantially the amounts that employees

will permit to be withheld from their pay toward the purchase of bonds. I think that goes without saying, almost.
Now, as to the effect that is to be had upon bond
sales in these months by an announcement now of such a

withholding tax, to be effective the 1st of January, the

effect will be - just how much it will be, I can't say, as
we are just in the middle of promoting this pay-roll allot-

ment on a much intensified scale with employers and employees;

and I don't think that you can expect anything like the
cooperation from either group that we are now getting if
they all know that in a matter of months there is to be
this withholding tax.
MR. PAUL: I want to make it clear that this puts

taxpayers in a more solvent position so they can buy bonds.

This is not a withholding tax.

MR. GRAVES: We understand that, but the people that

are involved here are not so apt to understand it. I am

afraid all they see in this is a withholding.

MR. SULLIVAN: Well, Harold, in these intervening

months would you be better off if it were just left indefinite and nobody knew when these withholding taxes were to

become effective, or do you think you would be better off if
it was stated they would go into effect on January 1, 1943?
MR. GRAVES: Well, I suppose we would be better off

if the thing were left indefinite. I would like, Mr.

Secretary, to say this. I don't think there is much room
for argument about this. I would hate to be in the position
of arguing against this proposal. All I am saying is that

if you have it, you destroy, in my judgment, whatever chance
we might otherwise have had to reach these quotas that we

have set for ourselves. It is inevitable that there will

be such reaction on the part of the employers who have got

to enforce this tax, as well as to collect our allotments
under the pay-roll allotment plan - such a reaction on the

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- 10 part of the employee groups, that, in my judgment, we
could not be expected to reach these quotas.
H.M.JR: Well now, Harold, I make a public apology
for not consulting with everybody in the Treasury before

I said, "You have to ask for a fixed ten percent as

against making it one to ten, but the one to ten has been
on the books, so to speak, ever since I made my speech.

MR. GRAVES: That is right.
H.M.JR: And I mean, I made my talk on March 3, I
think it was, and today is May 25, and Saturday was May
23 or 24, and now suddenly you come along and for all you
knew it might have been one percent, or it could have been
anything.

MR. GRAVES: Or nothing, because as the matter then

stood, as I recall, that was to be discretionary with the

Secretary of the Treasury.

H.M.JR: These boys here - wouldn't it have had to

be one?

MR. WHITE: Up to ten.

MR. PAUL: It would have had to be something, I

should think, and practically now it would have to be ten

you would be--

H.M.JR: No. Wasn't the argument I used that we would
put in one in order to get the machinery going?
MR. WHITE: That was the understanding.

H.M.JR: I think my testimony read that way. I said

we would put ten percent in in order to get the machinery
going.

MR. TARLEAU: You indicated at the public hearing that

you thought it might be advisable to start at that time with
a low rate in order to get the machinery going.
MR. SULLIVAN: I think that was in cross examination

rather than in the formal statement.

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MR. TARLEAU: That is right; it wasn't in the statement, but it was in the Secretary's public appearance.
Isn't that right, Roy?
MR. BLOUGH: Yes, the statement itself, as I recall,
indicated that the beginning would be at the discretion,
and the rate at which it was held would be at the discretion,
but in the cross examination it was brought out that it

might be desirable to start at a low rate in order to get
the machinery going.

MR. HAAS: May I make a comment, Mr. Secretary?
H.M.JR: Yes.

MR. HAAS: I think Harold is right, that not a withholding tax, but any tax will affect bond sales. I think
Randolph Paul is right. I think the conflict between taxes
and the voluntary plan has got to be resolved. There is a
fundamental weakness in the program. I think something in

addition will have to be done if you are going to continue
the voluntary, and there are several plans that I think
ought to be looked into very carefully.
One is, if you put a tax, progressive tax, on expenditures, and allow bonds as an exemption in the payment of
debts and exemptions, insurance premiums, and so on, it

will put a stimulus to buy bonds and will allow the tax
program to go ahead as it should as a tax program. I

think without that you have got this conflict, and if it

is not resolved then something, as I suggested, has to be

put in to make the thing fit. There is no coordination in

the motivating force.
That tax on expenditures is one item. What it really
amounts to is a progressive sales tax when it is analyzed,

but it will make possible to continue, it will give stimulus

to continue, the voluntary system, and it will make possible
to continue a tax program without conflicting all the time
with the bond sales. Now, that is one plan. here are some
other plans, but I think obviously there is something in
addition - something fundamental that is needed in addition,
or otherwise you will have to abandon the voluntary plan.

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H.M.JR: Well, I want to say this, and I am saying
it in the room here, I am sorry to hear Harold - I may be
using an unfortunate word, but I am going to use it -

alibi for the volunteer plan. I am saying it in the

room here. I don't want anything repeated outside of

this room. Where nothing has happened - you can come

back at me as hard as you want to - as to the foundation
of our approach in raising this money - I mean, the
foundation was just as solid when you and I made the
quotas; the only difference is now we are talking ten
percent instead of a possible one. But when we said
we were going to do six hundred, eight hundred, and a

billion this thing certainly was in the cards. Now you
come along and tell me you can't make it. Now, if that

is unfair, if it isn't true--

MR. GRAVES: I don't think it is correct. It
certainly is not as I recall. Perhaps you remember

most of the people that are now here were in the group
at the time when we were considering starting off with
these quotas; that same suggestion was made then that

we start off with one percent, and I objected at that
time to starting off with one percent. You remember
that, Dan; other people objected, too - I think Mr. Kuhn
and Mr. Odegard.

H.M.JR: Dan doesn't say he does or doesn't.

MR. BELL: No, I don't remember. I am sorry, I
was waiting until he finished his conversation.
MR. GRAVES: I objected to that suggestion. You
made it some six weeks ago in a conference with substantially this same group. You went around the room
and asked for everybody's opinion. When you got to me

I said I didn't feel that we should do anything at all

toward a withholding tax, even one percent, and I was
supported by Mr. Kuhn and Mr. Odegard, and I think
Mr. Sullivan.
MR. SULLIVAN: I wasn't present, Harold.
H.M.JR: Who do you me an, Kuhn and Odegard? Do

you want Kuhn in here, because these boys look kind of
blank?

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MR. GRAVES: I remember Dan was here.

MR. BELL: I can't remember.
MR. GRAVES: Harry was here.

MR. SULLIVAN: Was that the meeting where it was
discussed whether to have forced savings or not?

MR. WHITE: I think I remember the meeting. I am
sorry, I just don't remember.
MR. BLOUGH: I thought it was forced savings and

not the taxes we were talking about.

MR. SULLIVAN: I think you had another one the
next day.

MR. GRAVES: Perhaps it was forced savings, but this

is forced savings we are talking about.
H.M.JR: No, no.

MR. GRAVES: Yes, this is a form of forced savings.

H.M.JR: No, it is an advance payment of your tax.

It is quite different.

MR. PAUL: No, it isn't; nothing goes back-MR. GRAVES: The principle is forced savings.
MR. BLOUGH: The reason I didn't bring up the
savings program when you suggested going to ten percent
was - you may have been using an idle word, Harold -

I wouldn't want to hold it to you at all, but I have

been trying to keep that in my mind as you went along
here, and I remember you said once when we were talking
about this, "Put on as much tax as you want to; put
on as much withholding tax as you want, but don't put
on forced savings."

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MR. GRAVES: That is an entirely different matter.
I was there comparing, in my own mind at any rate, the
relative value of savings on the one hand, and taxes on
the other; and I have said, as far as I personally was
concerned, I would rather see this thing taken out in

taxes. All I am saying now is that you can't do both.
MR. BLOUGH: I am sorry if I misunderstood, but
I thought you were talking about the other.

H.M.JR: Kuhn, can you remember in any of these meetings when we were discussing the quota that Graves came
out opposed to the withholding tax?
MR. KUHN: He came out opposed to any system that

would cause the employers to put in two sets of pay-

roll deductions. That was the basis of Harold's objection
to compulsory savings, that the moment you 8 sked the

employers to install a compulsory, universal system of
deductions, the present voluntary system would go out
the window.

H.M.JR: Yes, but I went ahead with my speech on
March 3, recommending the discretionary one-to-ten-percent withholding tax and we made our quotas after that.
MR. GRAVES: This discussion was after that.

H.M.JR: Well, if it was, it was sort of after the

horse had 'left the barn.

MR. WHITE: If the discussion was as Ferdie states

it, I am not sure that I had both views. I remember
that discussion very clearly in which you (Graves)
objected definitely and clearly to the introduction
of compulsory savings on the grounds that it would kill
the voluntary savings.

H.M.JR: That I can remember.
MR. WHITE: That I remember, and I remember

one of the arguments you used was that if you put that

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the payI a.-oll it would be difficult to get volunteer
t know, and it seems a little bit mean-

savings.

ingless to hold
it you would have two deductions, both
a voluntary deduction and a compulsory deduction of the

pay roll. I thou ht what you referred to was your

general program of selling bonds on a voluntary basis
would be seriously interfered with on a compulsory

basis. I remember that discussion very clearly.

MR. GRAVES: Of course we are now talking about two

deductions that are to come off the pay roll. There is
the deduction for bonds which is voluntary, and then
there is this deduction which is compulsory, and the

principle is there just the same. Ferdie, I went so

far as to say, before you came in, that the suggestion

had been made that we start with a compulsory deduction

of one percent and that I objected on the grounds stated
by Harry just now, that a compulsory deduction and the
voluntary withholding simply are not compatible; that you
can have one or the other, but not both; and that the
amount was relatively unimportant.
MR. KUHN: You were thinking of the effect of it

on the employer, not on the worker, not on the man who
was making the savings.

H.M.JR: Let's look up the record. I am just
interested. But let me - I didn't mean to cut you
off, Ferdie, but he has to go on the Hill.
MR. PAUL: Ten-fifteen.

H.M.JR: Let me put it this way. I want to get

somebody to state for me, because I never read HeIvering's
memorandum-Sullivan can you very briefly state what
are the pros and cons and the difficulties? What was

Helvering's objection to this pay-roll deduction plan,

and how did you overcome his objections, and what did he

say? I mean, can you do it in two or three minutes?

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, sir. The Commissioner sent you
a lengthy memorandum setting forth the cost to the Bureau
of a withholding tax. In that same memorandum he also

set forth, for each year for the last ten years, I believe,

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taxpayers were not in funds to pay the taxes. That list
represented tax liabilities which never were paid. The

memorandum showed that the cost of administering the
withholding tax exceeded the amount of unpaid tax

liabilities.

I think the Commissioner felt that one of the
reasons why we, over here, were in favor of a withholding tax was that through a withholding tax we would
collect money we would otherwise lose, and, hence, would
be ahead of the game. From his memorandum it is pretty
clear that although we will collect money that we would

otherwise lose in taxes, there will not be a net saving,
but rather a net loss.
H.M.JR: You gentlemen explain that to me.
MR. SULLIVAN: You sent the memorandum to me and

asked me to take it up with the Commissioner, and I
did so, and I explained to him that the reason we wanted
a withholding tax was because of its value in helping

to combat inflation and that we felt so strongly about it
that we would be willing to take a net loss on the
operation in order to help in the fight on inflation.

Now, I haven't any misgivings about the ability
of the Bureau to administer a withholding tax. There are
going to be many trying problems, but there are in
every new kind of a tax; and I am convinced that if we
can get a priority rating so that we can get people
and train them and hold on to them, we will be able to
handle that problem. When we have solved it I think
it may lessen the burden in other types of tax work we
are now doing. I have no misgivings about the Bureau

administering the tax at all.

MR. WHITE: You made a statement very disturbing, if

you meant it. You are certainly going to get the opposite.
Do I understand that it is going to cost you more to
collect the withholding tax than what you get in the

withholding tax?

MR. SULLIVAN: No, no.

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was, Harry, that bothered me, they claim that each year
people who didn't pay any tax, that you didn't reach -

I think the figure was a million and a half dollars.

MR. SULLIVAN: No, my recollection is we lost about

ten or eleven million, and it would cost about sixteen
and a half to collect.
H.M.JR: That is the point, and we are talking
about several billion dollars worth of taxes.
MR. WHITE: I misunderstood.

H.M.JR: We are talking about collecting a couple of

billion dollars worth of taxes. Have you got it now?
MR. WHITE: I have it clear.

MR. PAUL: Of course that figure isn't to be compared
with what it would be today because then we had less

taxpayers on the list and--

H.M.JR: Let me ask you a very frank question. How

do you think they are going to vote on it this morning?

MR. PAUL: I think they are going to vote for it if

we will indicate our willingness, as I have said on the
stand we would, to exclude domestic help and farmers

on the ground that it isn't practical to include them at
this time. Therefore, they should be excluded for the
moment, just like in social security. That takes a
load of about eight hundred thousand taxpayers off the

list, and I think there will be an almost unanimous

vote in the Committee this morning on that.
H.M.JR: You mean to exclude those?

MR. PAUL: They will want to exclude - in fact,
that is what will probably make it a fairly even - change
it from a fairly even vote to an almost unanimous vote.

H.M.JR: Going back to what you said in the first part

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of the discussion, would it be very difficult to have it
come out that this will not be put into effect until
January 1?

MR. PAUL: I don't think so. Do you, Tommy?

MR. TARLEAU: I just came in right in the middle

of things. I rather hesitate about it unless it is

absolutely necessary, and it may be necessary for other
reasons to announce a January date, because, in the
first place, we have certain hesitancy in the Committee

to adopt this proposal. They are willing to go along, al-

though a lot of them don't like to put the thing in. If
you can indicate that thing isn't going to go into
effect until next year, there is going to be some

hesitancy because of the fact that between January 1
and March 15 you are not going to get very much of the
advance collections. If we start around November, you
might get some of it.
H.M.JR: Look, Tommy, you are talking good technical

tax, which, for the minute, doesn't interest me, and I
will tell you why. Again, very much in this room, I want

to be practical. It is too late to discuss the pros and

cons of withholding taxes. I made my speech; it is there.
I can't between now and ten o'clock reverse my position,

but I can do this; I am more interested that we get a
Democratic Congress than I am in inflation, or anything
else, as far as domestic, internal, economic, political
situations go. I mean, to me that, domestically, is more
important than anything else, and it just makes common

sense to me that if you should have this thing hit these

people before election it will hit them like a ton of

bricks and it may be very harmful to our Democratic
Congressmen coming back. Therefore, I will put it on

straight political grounds, or, if you want to be noble
about it, so that Mr. Roosevelt can carry on for the
rest of his term, I strongly recommend that this doesn't
go into effect until January 1, Randolph - strongly.
MR. PAUL: Well, the only question was - that can be
done - the only question is whether you make an announcement

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at this time-H.M.JR: This is the whole purpose.
MR. PAUL: They will leave the practical matter en-

tirely up to Helvering. They will never press Helvering

for it.

H.M.JR: I want a January 1 date. I want these
people who are lax - I mean, if you can't do it easily,
I can do it any way of two or three ways, but I want when this vote is taken, I want it to come out publicly

that the thing will not be put in effect until January

1.

Now, I have thought a lot about this thing over the

week end. John, do you question my wisdom on that?

MR. SULLIVAN: No, I am for it. Tommy, I don't
think you were here--

H.M.JR: Harry, do you question that from a political
standpoint?

MR. WHITE: I think certainly that is preferable to
setting a date before January 1. I don't know what the

possibilities are. There is another possibility, and

that is not to push it at all and let them kill it if
they want to, and then bring it up again in the late
fall. I don't know whether it is politically possible.
H.M.JR: Of course that would please me, but I didn't
want to - I mean, we have done this thing, and I don't
want to - I mean-MR. WHITE: It is a question on how hard you push

it, isn't it?

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MR. PAUL: No.

H.M.JR: I would feel that Paul would have a right
to feel I was letting him down.

MR. WHITE: I don't think that is very important,

myself. I don't think that is as important as other
things.

MR. PAUL: No, only you will have to get somebody

else to put through the rest of your tax bill.
H.M.JR: It is that important.
MR. SULLIVAN: There are political consequences

of quitting cold on this thing now when--

H.M.JR: I didn't say-MR. SULLIVAN: I know, but Harry's point--

MR. WHITE: I haven't explored it.

H.M.JR: I want to make it awfully clear - I
didn't suggest that-MR. SULLIVAN: I was answering Harry.

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MR. WHITE: I don't know that those are the alternatives. Certainly you men have enough political experience
to know that Congress isn't enthusiastic about an addi-

tional imposition of taxes of this kind; and it is a little

bit specious to say they are not paying more, that they are

only paying in advance, because you know very well they
reach the stage where they pay - for one year they pay
almost double. So they will make much of that argument.

I say this without knowing much of what is going on
in the Committee, not knowing much at all, but on the
general assumption that they are not enthusiastic about
much higher taxes, that if you can maintain your position

without pushing it - it may be possible that it will be
defeated because I just heard you say something about

half being either way, some on the fence; and if it is
so close as that maybe it all depends on your behavior,

whether they just defeat it.

Now, if they just defeat it, it may well be that

you can come back in the fall. You asked for it and it
was defeated, and you are going to ask again; it is more

urgent. I don't know whether that is a possibility. I
was merely suggesting it; but certainly if that is not
a possibility it is preferable to have it January 1.
MR. TARLEAU: Let's settle for January 1.

MR. WHITE: This is not bargaining. It is a question
of deciding what is best in the larger interests. That
is why I don't take much stock in Paul's saying somebody

else will have to push the bill, because I am sure that
he would modify his position in the light of what he
thought was in the best interests of the country.

MR. PAUL: I would, myself, yes, but I would become
useless up there.
MR. TARLEAU: January 1, says the Secretary, and I--

MR. WHITE: This is not a question of a bargaining
arrangement; it is not a compromise. It is a question

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of seeking what is in the best interests of the situation.
MR. TARLEAU: On the question of the alternative,

I believe, and I think Randolph believes, and I think
Roy believes, looking at it from our own narrow base,

that the institution of withholding system is a very
essential part of our tax program. If you get defeated
now you are not going to get it in the fall. They will
not go through this scrap all over again.
MR. WHITE: You may be so close to the woods that

it is a little difficult to get a perspective on the

larger aspects. You say you are considering it from a
narrow base; you don't want us to consider it from a
narrow base.

Do you feel you have explored the matter? Do you
want to reexamine it and see what are the other possibilities, because I am also very much in agreement with
what Harold said and what George said, that it will

affect the voluntary bond program. I don't think there
can be any possible doubt of that. I also think that

the mere announcement will have some effect; how much I

don't know. But the fact that you may have acquiesced

to a one to a ten earlier is not significant because it
didn't receive the public discussion this is going to
receive. It didn't receive the public attention that
it will receive if the thing is passed and there is

announcement that people have to pay ten percent for

their current taxes in a ddition to the tax they will

have to pay in 1943 for the previous year, in addition
to coming around and asking for a pay-roll allotment.
Unquestionably that is going to reduce the program,
and I think you have to take that into consideration.
The consequence of that, it may be, will be that
willy-nilly you will have to have some other program to
supplement your voluntary bond program; and that will
have to go into effect, and then you will be piling on
top of that.
I think the thing re eds to be reexamined in the

light of the best interests.

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H.M.JR: Harry, when you cover the thing you might

also
one tocover
three.the increase in your social security from

MR. WHITE: Randolph, I think the thing has to be
given another look; let's reexamine it.
MR. BLOUGH: I will tell you what the next look

will be. I don't think this Congress will pass these
income exemptions or these income tax rates without a
withholding tax hooked on. I think they will cut the

income-tax program at least another billion dollars,
and the sales tax will be an absolute certainty. That
is your other look.
MR. SULLIVAN: And you are not going to get any

increase in social security this year, anyway.

MR. BLOUGH: Not under any circumstances, in my

opinion.

MR. WHITE: I don't know. Maybe you have reexamined

the whole thing and you have come to that conclusion; but

I think there is enough at stake, and if time isn't too

pressing if you can devote another day or two and get
some more discussions, get the various people in whom

you have confidence in, and see what - it is a question

of tactics, not tax matters.
MR. PAUL: Ten-thirty.

MR. WHITE: You couldn't stall them this morning?
MR. TARLEAU: There is a unanimous-consent request

that this matter be taken up as the first order of

business this morning, and that is why we are here.
MR. WHITE: Let me ask this question. Supposing

you were definitely convinced that it is desirable to

postpone the issue, do you think that you are ingenious
enough to get it postponed?

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MR. TARLEAU: We can go up there and withdraw it.
MR. WHITE: No, I mean without being absurd.
MR. TARLEAU: Harry--

MR. WHITE: You know what I mean, being smart about it.

I don't know; I am not saying it is possible. I just don't

know enough about it. I know a lot of things are possible
politics that don't seem to be until you have thought
itinover.
MR. BLOUGH: My idea is that this ought to go into
operation July 1. Since that is absolutely impossible
and it couldn't be put into operation until November,
January 1 is a very good date. You are going to run up
against this trouble, and something is going to have to
be done about double payment in 1943.

MR. PAUL: I feel this way, not in any narrow sense
but in the larger sense, that if we have to choose we
ought to take withholding at the source, even if there

is a bad effect on the voluntary program. I think

ultimately you are going to come to that question.

MR. WHITE: I agree completely. Ultimately you

will be faced with the issue that you will have to increase taxes, which will interfere with your voluntary
program, no doubt about that.

MR. BLOUGH: They are doing it, though, in Canada

both ways. Don't they have a pay-roll deduction plan
in Canada for selling bonds?
MR. WHITE: They have just begun it.

MR. BLOUGH: And they have had a pay-roll deduction

there for taxes for over a year.

MR. WHITE: But the savings program is just getting
going. I don't know what success they have had. We

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sent a man up there to get some information. He will
be back this week.

Well, I just don't know; I am only thinking that

it certainly seems to deserve another look-see for the
moment because there are some rather large questions of

strategy involved, and the tax aspects of it are not

decisive at the moment, and no one is questioning--

MR. PAUL: Of course I think they are, in the very
larger sense of the term.
MR. BLOUGH: You have changed your position com-

pletely in the last two or three months; I don't

understand it.

MR. WHITE: Not if you can understand my position

as I understood that it was. I don't think I have

changed it. I don't think that I changed my mind, not
that I wouldn't hesitate to if I thought I was wrong.
I was for a one to ten percent withholding tax, surely,
because at that time you were going to start at one

and get the machinery going and move up; and I liked

it both ways, flex it upward and flex It downward. I

still am for it. It is an entirely different set of

questions that are being raised now.

MR. BLOUGH: That wasn't your--

MR. WHITE: You state it if it is important. I
don't think it is important what I held before; what

is important is the merits of my present argument.
I don't think that I have changed my position; I don't

think that is important.

MR. BLOUGH: It always pays to take another look,

but we have been looking at this so long that I question
whether another day is going to make any difference.

H.M.JR: I have this suggestion. I realize Paul's
position, and, after all - what I would like, in view

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of all of this - and I have another thing which I want
to mention, which I will bring up in another week or
ten days, that is, this whole question of just what is
happening to the cost of living. I will know much more
about it in another ten days or two weeks, which will

give us another chance, when we have some accurate sta-

tistics, if and when I go before the Senate. And if there
are some entirely new figures on the cost of living, that
would give me a basis to change my position if I wanted to.
But, I mean, based on information - I mean, there is just
one little thing happened to be here. I look down and I
see that the retail department store sales on May 9 were
only one percent higher than they were a year ago.
MR. HAAS: Prices are down nineteen percent, so the
actual volume is less.

H.M.JR: The volume is less, the prices are down?
MR. HAAS: I mean up nineteen percent, so that means

that actual volume is less.

MR. WHITE: I think one should be very cautious, and

you are. I think you are proceeding properly in trying to

get as much information as you can and tapping different
sources than are customarily available, because I think you

are quite right in saying economists can get in a certain

rut of thinking a certain way and come to an erroneous con-

clusion, like everyone else. On the other hand, if you
come to a different opinion with respect to the impact of

the so-called gap on the remaining goods, you would have to
do it very cautiously, and have more evidence than you are

apt to get that way. I think what it might do is call for

a reexploration - if you find the evidence that you are
seeking, but not enough to go on--

H.M. JR: But, Harry, if I did it, I would make

Henderson S organization and Nelson's organization prove

their points all over again, and Eccles'. I mean, I would

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ask the three of them to a meeting. I would say, "I

have got this information; what have you got to prove-MR. WHITE: "What significance do you apply to this

information?"

H.M.JR: "Or what evidence have you got to prove that
this extra money is going to be at pressure?"

MR. WHITE: That is all right, as long as you reopen
the question rather than take a position.
H.M.JR: I will check not only here in Washington,

but all over the country. Let's just for a moment say that
Beardsley Ruml comes to the conclusion - there won't be a
better man to use as a foil against these people, because
it would be quite novel to have him on the Treasury side,

and there wouldn't be a better foil to use against Eccles

and Henderson, and the others.

MR. WHITE: He would be very good.

MR. PAUL: What exactly do you think?

H.M.JR: Exactly what I think is this. I am going

back to the statement you made, to make your position

tenable and reasonable. In the early part of the discussion

you said that this thing can't get into effect before the
first of January, you can't get the machinery.
MR. PAUL: That is right.

H.M.JR: Now, all I am saying is that you stick to

that position, and that if they vote this thing and if it

is announced and it goes through, and they have exempted
servants and farmers, I would like the announcement oday

to be that this thing will not be put into effect until
the first of January. See?

MR. PAUL: Well, I think we can contrive to make that
statement, surely, somehow.

MR. BLOUGH: I want the chairman - I don't say you I want Chairman Doughton to say that.

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MR. SULLIVAN: You can raise the point of the effec-

tive date, Randolph, and they will--

H.M.JR: I want Chairman Doughton - I don't want it
from the Treasury; I want Chairman Doughton to make that.

If you have got any doubts about it yourself--

MR. PAUL: No, I haven't any doubts, except on the
point as to what is the best way to get Doughton to do
that.

MR. TARLEAU: You can manage to do that. We will

talk to Stam and we will tell them - we can go back to

Mr. Helvering's testimony and state that we have examined
it again, and we have taken this matter up again, and we

think we ought to advise them this will go into effect about
January 1, and that January 1 is a good, convenient date.
I think Cooper mentioned he liked that date.
H.M.JR: If there is any doubt, any trouble, call me
on the phone, and I will talk to Doughton myself.
MR. PAUL: I don't think there will be.
H.M.JR: Randolph, I am laying great stress on this,

on the date. I am laying great stress on this. So if
you find that you can't handle it, what - I don't want

you to say, "Well, the law will go into effect and we

won't get around to it until January 1." I want it written
into the law that it won t go into effect until January 1.
MR. WHITE: Do you think it will affect the possibility

of its chance of passage?

MR. TARLEAU: I would put it right in.

H.M.JR: I want it out today.
MR. WHITE: Do you think it has a better or worse
chance of passing if you made the January 1st date?
MR. PAUL: A little worse.

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MR. WHITE: I wanted to know whether it affected the
chances of its passage if the January 1 date were stressed,
or if no date. lie said the chances would be a little
worse if the January 1 were stressed.

H.M.JR: Then you are for it?
MR. WHITE: Yes, yes.
MR. SULLIVAN: what other effective date has been
discussed, Randolph?

MR. PAUL: There hasn't been any effective date.
MR. TARLEAU: Thirty days after the passage of the

act, that is the usual effective date.

MR. SULLIVAN: Has that been discussed?
MR. TARLEAU: No, just generally mentioned.

MR. PAUL: Helvering said he couldn't get it into
effect for two or three months after the law went into
effect.

MR. SULLIVAN: I think Jere would suggest January 1.

H.M.JR: Bell has been very quiet. Do you want to
say anything?

MR. BELL: No, I don't think so. I was just thinking,
this ten percent goes into effect in January. I assume

it is applying to 1943 liabilities.
MR. PAUL: That is right.

MR. BELL: And you will have a double tax, almost,

on your 1942 liabilities, and I assume you are still going
ahead with your plan to collect more of the 1942 liabilities

in the last part of the fiscal year, '43. Is that right?

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MR. PAUL: The last part of the fiscal year.
MR. TARLEAU: We have to do that.

MR. BELL: In order to make your seven billion I think your defense program is pretty well shot when
you do that beginning January 1.
MR. WHITE: Defense program?

MR. BELL: Savings.

H.M.JR: I haven't said anything about that, but
the reason I like January 1 is this - am I cutting you
off?
MR. BELL: I like January 1.

H.M.JR: The thing I want to get over is you pay

your last quarterly payment on December 15 for this year's
taxes, and then you begin to accumulate, for the next
calendar year, your earnings on the 1st of January begin to set aside every month. I think that makes

sense - if there is any reason for this withholding tax.

Then on the first week in January you begin to set aside
your money for your taxes for the current year '43 and
your '42 taxes.
MR. WHITE: They have to be paid at the same time;

you have to pay the first quarter on March 15, so--

H.M.JR: Two and a half months ahead, that is all.
You are finished - on the 15th of December, you pay your
last quarterly payment for your '41 taxes.

MR. BELL: I don't see any difference in it, Mr.

Secretary, because really you are going to be hit harder
in March by a larger tax, plus the advance payment brought

back into this fiscal year of the '42 liabilities, in
order to get it.

MR. SULLIVAN: Dan, you get that - whenever you put

withholding taxes, there is the first hump, no way to

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get away from it.
MR. BELL: No difference between January 1, from a

practical angle, and July 1.

MR. WHITE: You are apt to have two and a half months,
because if it began in November, on December 15 you would

have to make your last quarterly payment, if you paid by
quarters, so you only have a month and a half.

H.M.JR: Harry, if you paid July 1, over six months
you are paying a tax, and then you have got two quarterly
payments to pay.

MR. WHITE: Yes, if you paid it all in July.
H.M.JR: No, but you have got your payment on the
15th of September and your payment of the 15th of

December.

MR. WHITE: That is right.
H.M.JR: And besides that your weekly withholding

tax. But if you start on the first of January, '41
taxes are paid, finished.

MR. WHITE: Yes, you have two and a half months.

H.M.JR: You are just anticipating it by two and a

half months.

MR. BLOUGH: You are a year behind - an unfortunate

situation.

H.M.JR: It makes a lot of difference.
MR. WHITE: You have two and a half months in which

you only have to pay one tax per week. At the end of that
two and a half months you will have on hand, or have to
save up enough to pay, the first quarterly installment on
the previous year's taxes.

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H.M.JR: Less what you paid in the two and a half

months.

MR. GRAVES: No, in addition.

MR. WHITE: That only counts on the second year, that

is why I say - Randolph very quickly said, "After all,
this isn't
double.

advance payments," but for one you are paying

MR. BLOUGH: This is pretty important. If this had

started July 1, 1942, you would have on September 15 an
installment on your '41 taxes and on December 15 an

installment on your '41 taxes and in the meantime withholding towards your '42 taxes. The '41 are lower than

the '42 and apply to less people. If you start this

January 1, '43 you are going to be paying in March, June,
September and December your '42 tax liabilities and at
the same time you are going to have withheld during

1943 your '43 tax liabilities.

Now, I mentioned a little while ago that I think

there is the point that is going to have to be reexamined

because I have some rather serious qualms about the

ability of a lot of people to do those two things in

the one year.

MR. BELL: Yet you plan to.
MR. PAUL: may I make a suggestion. I think we can

get out of this January 1 hole in this way, that they

have asked us to frame a motion for them this morning
and the motion merely accepts withholding at the source

in principle. Now, the matter of the exact date we have

more--

H.M.JR: No, if you are going to do that - I want a
date. -ou couldn't make it later than Jaunary 1, and I
don't want it up in the air. I mean, Harold and I will
have a heart to heart talk after this, but I can't cope

with this situation as a thing that is left in the air.
MR. WHITE: I think it is going to be difficult to
cope with it even if it isn't, and I think there needs
to be assumed some reexamination of that, Mr. Secretary.

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H.M.JR: But you are not arguing with me in view of

the position that Paul is in that it should be January.
MR. WHITE: merely digressing for a reexamination.

H.M.JR: Would you want a resolution just saying we

are in favor of withholding?

MR. WHITE: I think you are right. The uncertainty
would be far more difficult for your program, although
we are working ourselves into this position where everything is being determined by the effect on the Davings
Bond program, and I think we have got to reexamine that.

H.M.JR: No. You haven't heard me say anything

other than this. I have said very little about it.
MR. WHITE: Well, I think it is implicit in a good

deal of our reasoning that we have got to be extremely

careful lest anything done is going to interfere. I
think it is true that it has an intimate connection, but
I think the time is opportune. I think, Mr. Secretary,

merely to recall some of our own statements, that you
said sometime along in May that by June 1 you would be

ready to reexamine the situation. I think the time is

approaching.

H.M.JR: My testimony is July.
MR. TARLEAU: July 1, yes.

H.M.JR: My testimony is July 1.
MR. WHITE: I meant within the Treasury; I didn't

mean outside.

H.M.JR: Well, I mean, we can't - but just as to the
thing--

MR. WHITE: I agree with you that it shouldn't be

uncertain.

H.M.JR: All right. Does anybody else disagree with
the very positive statement I am making that I would like

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the Treasury to go up there and get for me a January 1
date? If the Treasury can't do it, I want to get in
on it this morning.
MR. TARLE AU: We can get the January 1 date.

MR. PAUL: I think we can get that.

H.M.JR: If you can't you call me and I can get it

in about two minutes, by calling the Speaker.

MR. BLOUGH: On the contrary, I think they will be

glad to give it.

MR. TARLEAU: I think we can get the date.
MR. BLOUGH: They are running for Congress.
H.M.JR: Does anybody disagree with me on the

January 1 date as against a resolution on the principle

in favor of the withholding tax? O.K., sold.
It was a good discussion.

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May 25, 1942
10:40 a.m.

INFLATION

Present:
Mr. Haas

Dr. Likert

DR. LIKERT: A rally was being held on the payroll deduction plan, which presumably was to be a rather

widely attended rally; and instead of announcing it with
a bit of enthusiasm and making it as dramatic as possible
there was a tendency to merely say, "We just hope you

will come." "Fellows, we are going to have a big meeting" and really paint it up and make them enthusiastic that type of fire and enthusiasm wasn't in the picture.
Now, how widespread that is I don't know. In two
out of the three communities that this particular
individual had been in, there seemed to be less sense
of showmanship, less real enthusiasm. At one place the
person in charge seemed to be doing a job and doing it

well.

It also ought to be said that all of those people

feel the same pressure that you and many other people

feel, that there is a tremendous job to be done and the
time pressure is pretty great.
H.M.JR: Have you pulled those people back from
the field?

DR. LIKERT: No. What has happened is this, that
this person was a person from the Washington office.
We took some from the Washington office, along with our
field staff, and that one person from the Washington

office is back. The rest of them are in the field, but

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H.M.JR: Other problems? You feel you have done

what we wanted?

DR. LIKERT: I think we have done the field side,
yes. We have covered Hartford, Springfield, Boston, I
think, in the New England area, and maybe Providence.
I am not sure about Providence. We have covered St.
Louis, Memphis, and New Orleans, I believe, in the
South; on the west coast, Los Angeles, San Francisco,

and Seattle, if I remember correctly.

H.M.JR: I had some things that I was interested

in - I mean, they all fit into our problem. Let me
state them to you, if your people are still in the field.

Let me tell you what is worrying me and see if you can
help me.

The first thing I think Haas has mentioned to you
before. As you know, everybody in town is thinking
along the same lines, namely, that this gap of seventeen

billion dollars just has to act as pressure on prices.
See? Well, we are getting a little bit of evidence that
it doesn't necessarily follow that if the people have
it in their pockets that they are going to spend it.
Then the question is, what are they going to do

with it. Since this gasoline rationing has gone into
effect in some sections, the buying has fallen off,
and the first thing I was very anxious to find out

from the field was - I mean, something within a week,
you see, just enough to see - well, what has happened
since gasoline rationing has gone in as to the buying.

I talked to a few people, and it looks as though

something has happened that they didn't expect; people
can't get around and are sitting home.

Now, if that is correct, it is terribly important,

not only to us but to Henderson and to Nelson and to

Agriculture on the retail food prices, you see; and

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that was the thing that I was particularly anxious to

find out about this week.

DR. LIKERT: We have missed that completely. We

have missed that, because I didn't get that.

H.M.JR: Well, I wanted to talk to you myself. I

would like to know what is happening this week with the

people in the United States as to their buying habits

since the gasoline rationing has gone in. Do you suppose
you could make some kind of a spot check, just to see if
something has happened? Now, I did mention this to Mr.

Wickard on the food price retailer-consumer thing; he
is tremendously interested in this, also.

DR. LIKERT: Yes. Now, you have in mind doing that,
presume, on the east coast where the rationing has

I

gone into effect? The rest of the country wouldn't be
involved, would it?

H.M.JR: I thought it had gone in all over.
DR. LIKERT: Just the seventeen eastern States.

H.M.JR: All right then, the seventeen eastern

States.

Then if you are going to do that, the other thing

wanted to know is this - the same people that ask
those questions, if they could ask one other thing,
that is, how much effect does this discussion in
Washington on the tax bill, the withholding tax, have
on what they are going to do in regard to war bonds.
I mean, is it going to make very much difference with
I

them how many war bonds they are going to buy as to
what they hear on what is coming out of Washington on
the Ways and Means Committee? Is that clear what I
mean?

DR. LIKERT: In other words, this business of
ten percent, is it slowing down the purchase of defense
bonds, or war savings bonds?

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H.M.JR: Yes. I wanted to. spot check on that. What

I would like is if a telegram of instructions, or some-

thing, could go to these people, and shoot this out so I

could get something early next week on this. Can you do

it?

DR. LIKERT: Well, I would like to kind of look at
things
if I can.a bit, if I can, and call you or Mr. Haas back,
H.M.JR: Call Haas.

DR. LIKERT: Just to be sure where our people are

and that it gets in.

H.M.JR: On the first thing, I know that Wickard,

Nelson, Henderson, and Mr. Eccles would all be tremendously interested to know.

DR. LIKERT: Actually the thing that you were talking about is the kind of thing that ought to be watched
pretty continuously.
MR. HAAS: It ought to be watched all the time.
DR. LIKERT: At first they are maybe staying at
home, and then there will be some readjustments in
terms of finding that they can get around, and they
will perhaps begin to spend more.
H.M.JR: I have asked Beardsley Ruml to do it from

the retail store side. He is going to do that for me.
MR. HAAS: His man is in my office now.
H.M.JR: He is?
MR. HAAS: Yes.

H.M.JR: You haven't had a chance to talk to him?

MR. HAAS: I talked with him for half an hour. He is
continuing with Lindow and Daggit.

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H.M.JR: What is he going to do?

MR. HAAS: We haven't got that far. I was trying
to get him into the problem.
H.M.JR: There is no use mixing up the two.

MR. HAAS: I don't think they conflict at all.
H.M.JR: Who is he?

MR. HAAS: His name is Hackman. He is probably
in charge of research.

H.M.JR: Did he seem intelligent?
MR. HAAS: Yes, he seemed quite intelligent.

DR. LIKERT: As I understand it - just let me
repeat it - the thing you are concerned about is that
since gasoline rationing has gone into effect there

seems to be evidence that people are staying at home,
and since they are staying at home are spending less
money; they are doing just the opposite of what might
have been expected, and instead of spending the money
they formerly spent they are staying at home and not
spending as much money as spent previously.

H.M.JR: There seems to be enough of a trickle

of evidence that it is definitely worth exploring.

DR. LIKERT: And if that is what is happening,
or whatever is happening, you people would like to

know what it is, so far as its effect upon the total
impact of purchases.

H.M.JR: That is right, and, as you say, that
might be the first impact but it would be something I
want to watch. What I want is something - I want that
to come to me so that it is not more than a week old.

I don't want it--

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-6DR. LIKERT: You want a continuous story, not more

than one week old?

H.M.JR: Yes.

MR. HAAS: This fellow Hackman did say, Mr. Secretary,
that when they cut off refrigerators and washing machines
and automobiles, and so on, the wooden furniture manu-

facturers thought the excess would go into furniture; but

it hasn't. He said one of the restricting devices

prevailing in purchases has been this cut in consumer

credit. He says the big play was, "Put a dollar down

and furnish your house", and he says that now they can't
do that he doesn't know whether they will accumulate
the cash until they can make a cash payment on it or

what. Just at the moment it is not going there; it is
not being diverted over into furniture.

H.M.JR: And I wanted to tell - I mean, I discussed
this with the President, and the President himself is
tremendously interested in this thing and wants to get
everything that I can get. I discussed this thing with

him Friday, and he is very keen to know what is going

on; so the first copy, whatever you give me, will go to

him.

DR. LIKERT: Fine.

H. M.JR: I mean the first copy.
DR. LIKERT: I will give you an over-all summary,

if you want me to, of the conditions, pretty specifically,
up to this point - I believe up to a week ago today. In

other words, our interviewers were interviewing in general
on this problem up to a week ago today, on the whole
economic adjustment of rationing.

H.M.JR: Up to the 18th?
DR. LIKERT: Yes.

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-7H.M.JR: You can?

DR. LIKERT: I think I can have that ready for you
in a day and a half or two days' time.
H.M.JR: Then you could give me another one in

another week?

DR. LIKERT: It might be ten days to two weeks

because it will take me a day or two to get re-oriented
on that and that material, and by the middle or the
latter part of next week I can give you that.
H.M.JR: Where are you going to pick this informa-

tion up? Are you going to pick it up out of stuff they

are doing?

DR. LIKERT: For three weeks prior to this last

Monday we were interviewing on the whole matter of
rationing, savings, savings bonds, what people are

doing with their money, whether they felt they had

more money than they had a year ago, and if so what

were they doing with it.

We found, for example, that a third of the people

felt, on the basis of the preliminary tabulation over
one city - a third of the people felt that they were

making more money than they were making a year ago, but

most of them said it was just about equal to the increase

in the cost of living. That is one of the factors that
I believe is going to be present in this whole situation,
that while there has been an actual increase in the

purchasing power of my income - we will say I am an
average worker and I am not conscious of that increase,

in the sense that I feel that the cost of living has

about balanced it. Actually I am living somewhat better,

but I don't recognize it.

Secondly, we know that there has been a feeling on

the part of many people that life has been pretty tough,
that this depression has been kind of hard, and now that

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they are back where they ought to be they want to buy
some of the things they have been waiting a long time

to buy. So there is some of that; whether that can be
readjusted I don't know, but I do know they are looking
at this as a period where they can do some of the things
and buy some of the things they want to.

H.M.JR: This three weeks' interview - at whose
instigation are you doing that?
DR. LIKERT: That is one we instituted ourselves.
We thought it important.
H.M.JR: For the Department of Agriculture?
DR. LIKERT: No.

H.M.JR: Just on your own?

DR. LIKERT: It was part of this work for OFF.
What we did is we suggested to OFF - this whole OPA

rationing program, and all that type of thing, price-

control program, was brewing right at that time;
therefore, we felt the work ought to be started at
that time, and consequently we undertook this three

weeks' interview.

H.M.JR: Well, that is my good luck.

DR. LIKERT: Yes, it was just timed - we tried to

time it in terms of what seemed to be a crucial problem,

and evidently we have hit it so that it was crucial. We
ought to be able to give you some information.

H.M.JR: You think by the end of this week I can
get a summary?

DR. LIKERT: We can give you an over-all picture.
That is in the process of analysis and is based on about
seventeen hundred interviews. The material will be
analyzed, and more complete reports, much more detailed

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will16.
be available along about June 16 June
19 or June

H.M.JR: Well, I can get the over-all this week.
I am just
interested
in how you - what staff do you
use?
Is your
staff USDA?
DR. LIKERT: We were set up - yes, we are in the

Bureau of Agricultural Economics, and when MacLeish
went in at OFF he asked us if we could and would do work

for him. We misjudged the situation a bit so far as

Agriculture funds were concerned, and we had spent most
of money
we
available
when the of
year
was
over
of
this the fiscal had Agriculture first funds; half and

certain other defense funds that it had looked very

much as we
get to
wedo
didwork
not So told
wewould
be very

Mr. MacLeish though would happy get. for we him,
and consequently we are doing all of our work now for

OFF.

H.M.JR: One other question, how many skilled
people have you got - I mean not counting stenographers
or clerks, how many people?

DR. LIKERT: Professionally-trained people?
H.M.JR: How many professionally-trained people

are you using?

DR. LIKERT: We are using a field staff of approximately fifty people, and we have about thirty-five
people here in Washington, professionally-trained people;
with the clerical people we have a total staff of one
hundred and seventy.

H.M.JR: Of those, eighty-five are the skilled?
DR. LIKERT: Eighty-five to a hundred, depending

on where you draw your margin.

H.M.JR: About a hundred. I just wanted to get

some idea.

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Well, that would be very helpful, and do you think
you can then follow this thing up?
DR. LIKERT: I think that could be possible. What
I would like to do is I would like to go over and check
the plans and commitments we have to other agencies, see
where we stand on man power, and then I may want to give

your secretary or Mr. Haas a telephone call suggesting
you get in touch with Mr. Kane. He is the person who
has the authority, so far as OFF money is concerned, to

say
to spend it on this or to spend it on something
else.

H.M.JR: Just work with Haas, and he can get it.
DR. LIKERT: I may want to suggest you call Kane.

I think it is perfectly feasible. I think it is the

kind of thing that can be done and ought to be done, so

that it is a question now of working out the plans in
such a way - the whole purpose of this thing is to do

the job, as I see it - our whole function is to get the

information that is most important to the major administrators in the Federal Government on problems of
major importance.

H.M.JR: These are two pretty important ones. The

one on the reaction on the tax bill of course interests
me more than it does anybody else, but the other question
interests half a dozen agencies.
DR. LIKERT: That cuts across all the major agencies.

H.M.JR: That is right.
DR. LIKERT: Very well.

H.M.JR: Now, when you have this over-all picture

I would appreciate it if you would come in. I would
like to go over it with you myself.

DR. LIKERT: Fine, I will do that.

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May 25, 1942
2:46 p.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Senator McCarran.

HMJr:

Hello.

Senator

McCarran: Hello.
HMJr:

Morgenthau speaking.

Mc:

Yes, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

Senator, I wanted to carry out' my end of the
bargain with you when I was up there the other
day.

Mc:

Yes.

HMJr:

And Donald Nelson brought up the question at
Cabinet about getting some more silver from
the Treasury.

Mo:

Yes.

HMJr:

And I said that I couldn't do anything unless
I first put the proposal to your committee.

Mc:

Yes.

HMJr:

Now, I wonder whether it would be convenient
for you gentlemen if Mr. Nelson and Jesse Jones
and I could come up there sometime Wednesday
morning.

Mc:

Yeah. Wednesday morning isn't so good, but I'11 just because of other engagements, but

HMJr:

Well, we'll

Mc:

How would either Tuesday or Thursday?

HMJr:

Well, Nelson can't do it Tuesday, but I'm sure
he could do it Thursday.

Mc:

What do you say we make it for Thursday?

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-2HMJr:

Well, we'll make it Thursday. Now, what time
will that be?

Mc:

Well, I would suggest ten o'clock.

HMJr:

Ten o'clock Thursday.

Mc:

Yes. I'11 call them all together in the Indian

HMJr:

All - Indian committee room. Right.

Mc:

All right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

Mc:

Thank you. I'11 go at it.

HMJr:

Thank you.

Mc:

Thank you very much.

committee room, where we were before.

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May 25, 1942
2:54 p.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Operator: Mr. Sproul.
HMJr:

Hello.

Allan
Sproul:

Hello, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

How are you?

S:

Fine.

HMJr:

S:

HMJr:

Well,
we seem to have hit it pretty well on the
nose.
Right on the nose, I think.
Yeah.

S:

The market's taking it very well, without a quiver.

HMJr:

Uh huh. When do you think we should close?

S:

I think you ought to close tonight, although I

think Bob Rouse would have a better feel of that
than I have.

HMJr:

Is he around?

S:

Yes, he 18.

HMJr:

Ie he there now?

S:

No, but I can get him on the phone for you.

HMJr:

Well, why not let him talk to Bell. Bell's here

with me, and I'll have Bell call him when he goes

back.
S:

Yeah. I checked that first statement, because

this being an exchange and some of the holders
being out around the country, although most of

it's in the hands of the banks, yet there might
be some question on it, so I'd rather have him

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HMJr:

Well, Dan said he's been talking - he just handed
me a note - to Rouse, and he said that they think
it should close tomorrow night, except for the
twenty-five thousand.

1
S:

HMJr:
S:

HMJr:
S:

HMJr:

Well, I modify my statement to agree with that,
because on second thought I think it - there's
no hurry on it, and it would be better to give
them a little more time.
Well, we could announce it tonight that
That's right.
we're going to close tomorrow night.
I think that would be good so that there wouldn't
be any excuse for stragglers.

Except for - (talks aside) twenty-five. What are

you going to do, give them an extra day?
D. Bell:

Give them an extra day.

HMJr:

He wants to give the twenty-five thousand dollar

S:

boys an extra day.

Well, that's good, too, because they sometimes are
slow on the pick-up on this thing.

HMJr:

Just on Home Owner's Loan.

S:

Yeah. I think that makes a good program.

HMJr:

All right. Then Dan'11 go ahead with it. You see,
Dan's got this twenty-five thousand dollar thing
from the President, you see.

S:

He's what?

HMJr:

His twenty-five thousand dollar figure, he got

S:

Well, that doesn't affect any of us any more.

that from the President.

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- -3HMJr:
S:

HMJr:
S:

(Laughe) I see.
You've cut ue all down to that anyway.
(Laughs) I see.
(Laughs)

HMJr:

Well, I'll have Dan go ahead on that basis.

S:

I think it makes a good program.

HMJr:

Right.

S:

All right:

HMJr:

Thank you.

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Treasury Department

Division of Monetary Research

Date May 25

O
To:

Secretary Morgenthau

From:

H. D. White

19 42.

That was a perfect meeting couldn't possibly have been handled
better.

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May 25, 1942
3:05 p.m.
INTERNATIONAL STABILIZATION FUND

Present: Secretary Jones
Mr. Coe

Mr. Feis
Mr. Bean

Mr. Pasvolsky
Mr. Eccles
Mr. Goldenweiser

Mr. B. Bernstein

Mr. Foley
Mr. White

Mr. Bell

Mr. Southard

H.M.JR: I guess everybody is here that we expect,
aren't they?
MR. WHITE: Yes, everybody is.

H.M.JR: We sent out to everybody here a preliminary

notice of what we had in mind. I had shown it to the
President, and he was sufficiently interested that he asked
me to take it up with the various departments and study it,
and come back and talk to him again after we had gotten the
advice of the other departments.

Inasmuch as Harry White is carrying this study for me,

I think you can go ahead, Harry, and talk a little bit.

Talk loud so Mr. Jones can hear you.

MR. WHITE: All right. What we have done is to explore
the groundwork for the suggestion for the establishment of
an international stabilization fund and an international
bank to meet the needs that we know are going to arise. I
think, as indicated in the memorandum, there are certain
aspects of the problem that are clearly enough marked so
that we could go ahead with some preliminary discussions,

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-2in the hope of eventually working out the kind of arrangements that could be put into operation the moment the need

arises. That isn't true of a great many of the kinds of

problems that we will have, because they may await the

development, further clarification, of the outcome of the
war, which we are in no position to have sufficient,
accurate information on to justify more than a good deal
of the preliminary examination that is already going forward.
There are substantial areas of the post-war problems
which are being studied and will continue to be studied by

various groups who are working on it, but this particular
area is concerned, as indicated, with international stabilization funds and with the provision for credit needs.
It is one that we have delved into sufficiently to feel
that enough work can be done to hope for a definite,
specific proposal to be worked out by the various govern-

ments. We didn't want to initiate it until we were sure
in our own minds that something could be worked out that

had the chances for working successfully after it was
initiated. We think we have gone far enough along that

path to feel some assurance that something can be worked
out of that character, but what we have done is purely of
an exploratory nature.

What it seems to us the next step should be is to
take that material and put all the minds on it that are
interested in the subject, and see whether we can't work
out something that will meet with the approval of all
those who will have a say on it. At the same time, and
while that is going forward, there is need for working
out the agenda and the modus operandi for getting the
various governments to focus on the problem.

This particular proposal, as is clear from the memorandum, differs from, I think, most of those that we have
ever considered, in that it is an intragovernmental matter.
It is something which the United States would only be one
of the participants, obviously one that would be very
important and yet it would only be one of the participants.

It is something that requires for its success
participation by a group of nations, and so it is my thought,

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-3Mr. Secretary, that what we first might do is ask you
to appoint a subcommittee, an informal subcommittee,

that could begin working on the specific suggestions
that are before us and other specific suggestions that
might be forthcoming from the various organizations
after we once started to study the particular plan.
Then we would be able to report back to you in the near
future something that had either a substantial measure
of agreement or in which there were incorporated the
various ideas which would be forthcoming from the various
technical men who would be working on it from the appropriate organizations.

At the same time, that committee could go forward
with preparing an agenda, which you then could consider
from the point of view of its adequacy and appropriateness for a possible international conference to be confined to those specific monetary and credit problems.
We have some material to begin with, and more will
be forthcoming very soon. If you do appoint a subcommittee,
we can add to that very quickly and be able to have something much more definite to say to you within a couple of
weeks.

H.M. JR: I would like to ask Mr. Jones first what he
thinks, if there are any questions he wants to ask, and
if he thinks that is a good way to proceed.
MR. JONES: I think it is the proper way to proceed.
I think certainly the subject is one that should have

attention, and I think this suggestion of his to appoint

a committee to be put to work and get together and exchange
ideas with us--

H.M.JR: Do you think it will be all right?
MR. JONES: Excellent. I think it is very timely,
a very necessary, thing to be done.

H.M.JR: You think it is all right?
MR. JONES: I think so.

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-4H.M.JR: Who would represent you?

MR. JONES: I think I would suggest Clayton.
H.M.JR: Mr. Eccles, what would you think?

MR. ECCLES: I feel this is a very important problem,
and certainly we can't wait until we are confronted with
the problem after the war to deal with it. We have got

to be as well prepared as we can be, and unless immediate
studies are undertaken and a program worked out, certainly
we may wake up and find that we are thoroughly unprepared
to deal with the post-defense problems, which would be
very unfortunate. Of course we have given some thought
and discussion to the inter-American problem over the

last year or two, and we have a proposal to establish an
inter-American bank, which, of course, has not yet been

undertaken.

As I get it, this problem here envisions a world
situation rather than an inter-American--

H.M.JR: That is right.
situation, and would therefore take
the place of or absorb, possibly, the inter-American bank
MR. ECCLES:

idea.

MR. WHITE: It might be supplementary.

MR. ECCLES: It might be. Of course you have likewise got the BIS, which was a world bank that we didn't
participate in as a government, but our private banking

interests did. That has still been kept intact, and I

suppose consideration should be given to that situation.
In any case it is quite clear that there are very many

important international monetary and exchange problems,
and they can't be worked out without a very comprehensive,
and what may appear to be a very radical innovation from

anything that we have thought of or conceived in the past
on the basis of the operation of an international gold
standard. It is in another world; we have no blueprints,
and I think we had better start getting them.

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-5H.M.JR: Is it agreeable to you that we go ahead?
MR. ECCLES: Very much so.

H.M.JR: Who would you care to have represent you?
MR. ECCLES: Well, I hadn't had a chance to discuss

this matter with the Board. I just got this Friday, and
discussed it with - Thursday - discussed it a little
with Dr. Goldenweiser, asked him to go over it. If agreeable to the other Board members, I would think that Dr.
Goldenweiser should represent us, and possibly select
such members of the staff who are familiar with these
international questions.

MR. WHITE: Exactly. It would be very helpful if
we could have not only Goldenweiser, but some other members of his staff.
MR. ECCLES: We have Kindleberger and Gardner, and

four or five fellows who have devoted their whole time to

this international question.

H.M.JR: Will they have time?
MR. ECCLES: Absolutely, this is the most important

thing in the international field from a monetary stand-

point, and that is their job.

Subject to the approval of the Board, Dr. Goldenweiser
can select such members of the staff whose services can

be used.

H.M.JR: Are you talking for Mr. Wallace?

MR. COE: Talking in a very tentative way for him, I
think there is no doubt that we are very glad to see the
Treasury raising this, and we also think that from a first

hasty look the two problems carved out are ones where a
good deal of spade work can be done and should be done very much. So we echo what Mr. Eccles said.

As to the particular person who would be assigned,

I couldn't say.

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H.M.JR: I take it he is sufficiently interested

that he would appoint somebody?

MR. COE: Oh, yes, indeed.

H.M.JR: And last, but not least, the State Department.
MR. FEIS: We, too, think that the time has come to
pursue this study, and I don't know any better way of
one you suggest. We have a few

brief doing requests
it than
observations,
veryof
or that
we the
have
got ahead

us, by which I mean the Government has ahead of us in the

near prospect, two series of discussions. One is regarding relief, and one is regarding general economic relations
as spelled out in article seven of the Lend-Lease agreements.
H.M.JR: May I interrupt you? What do you mean by
relief?

MR. FEIS: Relief for the present occupied areas
and other suffering areas, problems of organization and
of policy in that field. The commencement of discussions
is in the near future, and the commencement of the other
discussions, in a very informal way, are also in the near

future. Both of those matters will have their financial

aspects, their credit aspects - I don t see any monetary
aspects, but there are credit aspects, and so certainly
the plans and conclusions that the committee that is going

to work on this job will develop ought to be fitted in as
closely as they could, and the group sort of keep in the
closest possible contact in the conduct of their work.

Secondly, when and as it seems that the work has
gone far enough to warrant acting on Mr. White's thought
that we might want to assemble an international group-at that time the Secretary said that measure would obviously

have political significance, good or bad, perhaps quite
possibly all to the good, and at that time we presume that
before any move was made you would discuss it again with
him about the matter.

H.M.JR: Of course, I mean, any political aspects--

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-7MR. FEIS: Well, getting together of any international assembly at this time would provoke a political
question.

H.M.JR: I think what I would like to do, as I say,

is have this committee proceed, and just as soon as they
have got anything to say, let us know.
MR. JONES: Let Harry be the chairman of the committee and call them when he wants to.

H.M.JR: That is right; and then just as soon as

they have got anything, we could meet; and then if we
got along far enough that we had a plan, maybe Mr. Hull
could meet with us. We would be very glad to go over and

have the meeting in his office.

MR. FEIS: May I ask Mr. Pasvolsky if he has anything

to add? I haven't had a chance to clear with him.

MR. PASVOLSKY: I think that is entirely our feeling
in the matter. The Secretary is very much pleased that
this subject is going to be subjected to a very serious
discussion. It obviously needs it, and obviously the
first stage in the procedure is to determine our own
attitude and our own course of action. For that purpose,
it seems to me that the plan proposed by Mr. White is
admirably suited to the situation. A committee like that
really ought to be able to produce fairly quickly some
tangible results that could be the subject of discussion,
and then obviously there will be another technical stage.
Probably you might want to talk to the technicians, technical experts, of other countries. Our conferences always
fail because they are not well prepared. This is one
that we have an opportunity to prepare very well.

H.M.JR: If this one comes into being, it will be
the first one I have ever participated in, so I want it to
be good.

else?

MR. JONES: So you haven't any advantage over anybody

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have gone to these international country clubs for years.

There is one thing I would like to say, and I hope the
State Department will concur in this - the thought that
I had in my mind was that if we went ahead with this,

this would be a substitute for the one which was suggested
down at Rio for North and South America; if we were going
to do this, we wouldn't want to do the one that was suggested at Rio.

MR. WHITE: Mr. Secretary, what that resolution stated,
you remember, was that they would participate when this
was arranged, so it wouldn't be so much a substitute. as

it is the anticipation of their participation.
H.M.JR: Whatever it is, if this takes place, it

wouldn't be one for North and South America.
ing?

MR. FEIS: You mean by this an international gatherH.M.JR: Yes.

MR. FEIS: I think we feel, subject to some further
presentation, of that - subject to some further presentation, I think we would feel that was up to the Treasury
to decide whether they wanted Rio.

H.M.JR: What I meant was this, that if after care-

ful consideration the President decided that he wanted us
to go ahead with this, that we wouldn't then also have one
for North and South America. That is what I meant.
MR. PASVOLSKY: Probably not.

MR. WHITE: They would participate in this, as

indicated in their-resolution.

MR. PASVOLSKY: That resolution was very carefully

worded from that point of view.
MR. WHITE: I think so. You remember that we worked
over that.

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yourself thought there was something to be done between
the American states that ought to be done through Rio

machinery, as I think perhaps there might be. I don't
think you can tell.

H.M.JR: Well then, if it is agreeable to everybody,

and I take it that it is - Mr. Bell, excuse me-MR. BELL: It is all right with me.

H.M.JR: Have I left any loose stitches anywhere?

MR. BELL: No, I think a subcommittee is all right.
I think the subcommittee is a good thing.
H.M.JR: Well then, supposing we go ahead with Mr.

White as chairman and proceed as rapidly as our intelligence will permit us.
MR. WHITE: I have one request, Mr. Secretary. There

are in Washington, fortunately, at this time, two or three
men, or a half a dozen, at least, who do not, I think,
possibly belong to the specific agencies and yet by virtue
of their training and experience might be of considerable
help in the preliminary stages, and what-not. Since I feel

this needs as many good heads as possible to get it together,

would it be all right if we called in some of these men in
their expert capacities?
H.M.JR: Men in Government employ?

MR. WHITE: In Government employ, but a good deal of

their training has been in this particular field.
H.M.JR: All right. Thank you very much.
MR. BELL: Keep it out of the press.

MR. WHITE: I certainly won't give it any publicity.

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May 25, 1942
5:05 p.m.
TAXES

Present:

Mr. Sullivan'
Mr. Graves

Mr. Bell.

Mr. White.
Mr. Blough+

Mr. Paul'

Mr. Haas'

Mr. Kuhn -

Mr. Tarleau

H.M.JR: O.K., gents. Paul, the audience is
yours.

MR. PAUL: I don't even know the purpose of the

meeting. Is this a continuation of our meeting this
morning?

H.M.JR: I hope not. Just give us a report.

You went up on the Hill.

MR. PAUL: We went up there this morning. I
talked with Doughton and Cooper on this January 1
date and they quite readily agreed, and Cooper put
the date January 1 in his motion.
MR. BLOUGH: By unanimous consent.

MR. PAUL: It was by unanimous consent. It was put
on the ground of convenience to the Commissioner and

convenience to the taxpayers. There was none of this
motivation that we had discussed in this room. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: Who was he looking at when he said that?

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MR. PAUL: Anyway, they finally came to a vote,

after a lot of discussion, just around noon time, and
was told later this afternoon by Robertson - the
I

vote was to postpone consideration of withholding
at the source, and I was told by Robertson that there
were five or six votes on Cooper's motion; that he made
the motion and that the rest of them had mail over the
week end which protested withholding at the source,
and they wanted to think it over longer. Robertson
said he had the votes Friday, but over the week end

we lost ground.

H.M.JR: It is wonderful what this fellow Harry

White can do over one week end.
MR. WHITE: Fast worker.

MR. BELL: I was just going to blame Harold Graves.

MR. PAUL: Then this afternoon, all the afternoon,
the estate tax-H.M.JR: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We are

not interested in the estate tax. We are all alive,

I hope. What does this mean now, because this is big
stuff as far as we are concerned. What is going to

happen?

MR. TARLEAU: It will come up again. We are going
to have a postponement of this, I should say, maybe for
about a week; we are taking up estate taxes and then
excise taxes, and then they will probably come back to

this again. So it may come up again next week or it
may be postponed longer; but next week they will bring

the matter up again, I should think. At least that is
a possibility.
MR. PAUL: They want to read some more mail.
MR. TARLEAU: Robertson said - he suggested we get

people to send mail to him on our side.
H.M.JR: Which is our side? (Laughter)

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MR. TARLEAU: I don't know, I thought we had one

until this morning. (Laughter)

H.M.JR: I just want you to know that I had no
communication with Harry White until he walked in the
room here.
MR. PAUL: I would like to have you know that
had I known this morning what was going to happen I
would have pretended that I would very cleverly get
that postponed. (Laughter)
MR. BELL: You did a good job, Randolph.

MR. WHITE: I had confidence in you. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: Well, Harold, you see just what you can
do with a little persuasive power, see? Do you want
to send your people, your State chairmen, a telegram
tonight or not?
MR. GRAVES: Well, Mr. Blough and Mr. Paul just

got back and I-just before you sent for us I had finished
talking with Roy, who promised me a memorandum that I

could use as the basis for it. I think tomorrow will be

plenty of time.

MR. WHITE: Will that be public information in the
press?

MR. KUHN: It is in the papers already, the front
page of the Star, that they had postponed it.
H.M.JR: I don't know whether these people are
interested, but I a.m, on what happened in the afternoon.

MR. PAUL: It was just a pretty bad exhibition.

We put forward our arguments on the estate tax, and
various agreements we had with Stam, but the place
where we didn't agree with Stam was the rate structure,
and we were accused by Boehne of bringing back the shades

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of Huey Long, and it is obvious that the committee Stam opposed any increase in the State tax rates, and

it is obvious that the committee is hostile to any

substantial increase. That is two hundred and eighty
million dollars gone.
MR. TARLEAU: Is that two hundred and eighty million
gone?

MR. PAUL: Yes.

MR. TARIE AU: They are willing to lower the exemptions.

MR. BLOUGH: It isn't gone yet, I don't think, al- -

together.

MR. TARLEAU: Does that include lowering the exemptions,
Roy?

MR. BLOUGH: The exemptions - so far as the two

hundred and eighty million is concerned, the exemptions,
if anything, are being increased on the average.

H.M.JR: Well, you fellows look gloomy tonight.
MR. BLOUGH: We are being defeated with proper

regularity.

MR. WHITE: With aplomb?

MR. PAUL: It was pretty bad. It is obvious that
this committee - this is the most hostile it has been
to any change.

MR. BLOUGH: Well, last year they were, too.
MR. SULLIVAN: Same thing last year - you are going
to get-MR. BLOUGH: The only thing was Treadway wasn't there

to bring in his hotel managers, hotel illustrations, today.
H.M.JR: Well, I wanted this group to get it fresh, that
was all, right from the horse's mouth.

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MR. SULLIVAN: Did you get the notice of the meeting

Thursday night at eight o'clock on joint taxes?
H.M.JR: No.

MR. SULLIVAN: I gave it to Stephens. Do you (Paul)
know about this? I am going over the whole thing with
him.
MR.

PAUL:

Yes.

That is a totally different thing.

I don't have anything to do with that.

H.M.JR: I just want to make sure nobody is affected.
I am going up there Thursday night to, supposedly, an
executive session, but I hope not, to tell these people
about how the Treasury is going to treat excess war
profits made during 1941. Is that right, John?
MR. SULLIVAN: That is right. Now, you will have
a general statement laying down the guideposts, and I
think that we should have that prepared for distribution
because if we are going - if we are going to go beyond
just punishing the people who are guilty and warn other
people what not to do, that should receive very wide
publicity, that statement of yours. Then beyond that the
Commissioner or I will present about six or seven cases,

the first of this series.

Now, the Commissioner and I are going over the budget
tomorrow morning at ten o'clock, and when we get back
we are going to work on your cases. We may want to

discuss with you the advisability of having the state-

ments on those individual cases drawn up as corporation "A"
and corporation "B", so the name doesn't appear, and just

let some of this out so they will know what we are doing.

H.M.JR: Well, in appearing before that committee I
would have the name on it.
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, but I mean, have it prepared for

them if they wish to use the other.

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MR. PAUL: You said excess war profits - I didn't
quite understand.

MR. SULLIVAN: I didn't say that.
MR. PAUL: Mrs* Secretary did.

MR. SULLIVAN: well, these are cases like Jack and

Heintz cases.

MR. PAUL: Salary cases?
MR. SULLIVAN: Salaries and many other things.

H.M.JR: Salaries is only part of it. I mean, it

is what these people have done to get rid of their excessive
war profits through evasion.
MR. SULLIVAN: "e have got a telephone operator who

jumped from thirteen hundred to sixty-eight hundred, on
the switchboard, and is still on the switchboard doing

the same thing.

MR. PAUL: Do you think that will have any backfire,

Roy, in respect to their saying, "Let's lower the rates,
then"?

MR. BLOUGH: I don't know, but I shouldn't think it
would.

H.M.JR: The purpose is this: 1 want to show that
the Treasury is making full use of all the law which
they have given us. See? The reason I am bringing it
now is - God, if anybody has got any doubts, it is

almost too late, but not too late. I mean, I want to

show that we have got this thing and we are on the job,
and here is a corporation that showed, roughly, a hundred
and thirty thousand dollars - paid a hundred and thirty
thousand dollars tax and we are adding nine hundred

thousand more. Is that right?

MR. SULLIVAN: On the agent's reports, we increased
Jack and Heintz' tax from a hundred and seventy-one thousand

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to a million seventy-six thousand, an increase of about
nine hundred thousand. On going over it here, we are
afraid that the agent was a little zealous and disallowed
some things he should have allowed, so we are only increasing his tax between six and seven hundred thousand.

H.M.JR: Still very good.
MR. KUHN: Is that to be given to the papers as the
initial statement?
H.M.JR: Ferdie, another reason I am bringing this
up is I want them not later than tomorrow to get it to
you so it can be written in newspaper form, because if

it is written in newspaper form it will be clear, and
the idea is, I am going up before these people. I
haven't got the authority to give it to the newspapers,
but they have. Am I right?
MR. SULLIVAN: No, I don't think they have. I
don't think they can give them out. I think you thought
that if they got these tough cases they would talk
enough so that it would get out.

H.M.JR: Well, at least we are going to lay it on

the line.

MR. PAUL: Don't they have the authority if no

names are mentioned?

MR. SULLIVAN: I don't think they have ever exercised
that, have they, Tommy?
MR. TARLEAU: What is that?

MR. SULLIVAN: Giving out the names of taxpayers.

MR. WHITE: No names, just giving illustrations,

just giving the illustrations, of course.

MR. SULLIVAN: That is why I propose to do over the
statements, as corporations "A" and "B".

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H.M.JR: I just want to make sure that as far as

Paul is concerned--

MR. PAUL: I don't see any conflict there, do you?
MR. TARLEAU: No, rather it might be helpful because with the high rates we will still manage to keep
the thing under control through the Bureau.
MR. KUHN: Couldn't the statement come out as written
or would it be in the form of Leon Henderson's testimony?
MR. SULLIVAN: No, first the Secretary makes a
statement which can be published because it refers to

no particular - names no corporations; it outlines the

evils and indicates how we are progressing to prevent
the repetition, what we are doing to those compani es
that have offended up to now. Then when he gets through
with that statement, which can be made public, the
Commissioner and I will go ahead and present in detail
the statements on the first of these five hundred companies
we have investigated.

MR. WHITE: You are sure the particular illustrations
you use - you have got authority, sound cases, and there
aren't extenuating circumstances of one character or
another.

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, we are picking the cases we are

surest of, Harry, and that will not be made public.

H.M.JR: Well, anyway, the thought, Ferdie, that
I have back of the thing is, because this happens to
be my own idea that I want to do this - that I, as
Secretary of the Treasury, am going to use every bit

of authority I have got to take the profit out of war.
MR. KUHN: I think it is very important to come out

with that publicly.
H.M.JR: I want you to say it, that I want to use
everything I have that Congress has given me to use,

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every effort, to take the profit out of war. And here is

a concern - I mean, they are just as vicious as they can be
in their method of evading the law.

MR. KUHN: All that you said about the attitude of
labor toward management's profits is borne out by all
the public opinion surveys I have seen. It is the biggest
single reason for labor dissatisfaction with production.
H.M.JR: And I think my doing this ought to help
Harold as much as any single thing that I can do.
MR. SULLIVAN: I think it will help Randolph, too,

Mr. Secretary.

MR. PAUL: It might help us with the twenty-five

thousand limitation if we. had any hope there, but we

haven't.

H.M.JR: Would or would not?
MR. PAUL: Would.

H.M.JR: Please, Ferdie, get on this thing tomorrow,

and drop everything else.

MR. KUHN: Good. I am keen on it.

H.M.JR: I mean, drop all of this folderol that you
and I play with normally, will you?
MR. KUHN: All right.
H.M.JR: I mean, that we normally play with, and

get on this from now until it is finished.
MR. KUHN: I am keen on it. I think it is very
important.

H.M.JR: And then let everybody else in the room

see it - have a crack at it.

MR. KUHN: Who has got it now?

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MR. SULLIVAN: I have it in my desk. I am going
over it with Commissioner Helvering tomorrow forenoon, and
then I will bring it in to you. Tommy has worked on it

and Roy has worked on it.

H.M.JR: Thank you all.

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May 25, 1942.
Harold Graves

Secretary Morgenthau

I have an appointment Tuesday morning with both
Willem and Biow, made at the request of Judge Rosenman
O.K.

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May 25, 1942.
Harold Graves

Secretary Morgenthau

Not later than Tuesday morning, if possible by
Monday night, through Dick Patterson's office in New
York, please give me a line on MainWillem, who is coming
down to see me Tuesday morning with Mr. Biow. I want to
know what Willem is doing in connection with the New York

office and what his private business is. You might look
up his latest income tax, that might give us a line on

him. See Graves memo of 5/05/42-

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-COPY-

May 25, 1942.

TO:

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM:

Harold Graves

With reference to your inquiry of this
morning:

Joseph Willen is Executive Director of the
Jewish Federation, of which George Medalie is President. Mr. Medalie made Mr. Willen available to the
New York Committee for special work on F and G
Bonds.

I have asked Mr. Woolf, Acting Chief of the
Intelligence Unit, to let me have the recent incometax returns of Mr. Willen.
(See statement attached.)

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Income reported by Joseph Willen:
1937

$20,000

from the Jewish Federation

1938

20,000 from the Jewish Federation

1939

22,500
7,500

from the Jewish Federation
from United Jewish Appeal

1940

22,500

from the Jewish Federation

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May 25, 1942.
George Haas

Secretary Morgenthau

Please get as soon as you can this morning a copy
of the release given out by the Department of Commerce

having to do with inflation, which I read either in

Saturday's or Sunday's paper. - Done - Ber Has5/25/42

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20

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE May 25, 1942
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

You will be pleased to know that Axis broadcasters
have been paying attention to War Bonds and other Treasury
activities in the past week, and have been going after
you and the President personally in connection with them.
I attach a couple of extracts from recent propaganda

broadcasts.

F KC.

Attachment.

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Official German Broadcast to North America, May 18th:

Although Roosevelt and Morgenthau continue to invest their
own huge fortunes in real estate, the latter has had the
effrontery to try to force 67,000 Treasury Department employees
to buy even larger amounts of Washington's worthless war bonds.
Each of these 67,000 who values his or her job must soon

begin investing at least 10 percent of his or her salary in

Morgenthau's bonds. The wise among them, however, will probably
find some way of evading Morgenthau's blackmail and follow the
example of the tens of millions of other Americans who have
already seen through Morgenthau's card game and are buying
things which cannot lose in value.

According to a recent report of the Federal Reserve Board,
an even greater number of real Americans are refusing to turn
their money over to racketeer Roosevelt in the form of bond
purchases. The report of the Board described this attitude as

showing a regrettable lack of will to cooperate. It is certainly
this and much more. It is the most elementary form of self-

preservation and a declaration of independence from rascal

Roosevelt and his kike financiers.

These millions of bond boycotters rightly take the stand
that when Morgenthau and Roosevelt have sold their millions
of dollars worth of real estate and have invested the proceeds
in Government bonds, then Christian Americans can consider a
similar step. As long as Morgenthau and Roosevelt continue
to hang on to their real values, however, every real American

is more than justified in buying something else which is tangible
and will increase in monetary value.
Official Italian Broadcast to Latin America, May 17, 1942:
American distrust in war bonds must be very great. The
Government has had to urge savers not to hide their money in
mattresses and in stockings because this constitutes an attitude
of non-cooperation and bad will. This attitude must be very
common because there is so much worry about it.

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Official German Broadcast to North America, May 18th:
Although Roosevelt and Morgenthau continue to invest their

own huge fortunes in real estate, the latter has had the
effrontery to try to force 67,000 Treasury Department employees
to buy even larger amounts of Washington's worthless war bonds.
Each of these 67,000 who values his or her job must soon

begin investing at least 10 percent of his or her salary in

Morgenthau's bonds. The wise among them, however, will probably
find some way of evading Morgenthau's blackmail and follow the
example of the tens of millions of other Americans who have
already
seen through
Morgenthau's
things which
cannot lose
in value. card game and are buying

According to a recent report of the Federal Reserve Board,
an even greater number of real Americans are refusing to turn
their money over to racketeer Roosevelt in the form of bond
purchases. The report of the Board described this attitude as

showing a regrettable lack of will to cooperate. It is certainly
this and much more. It is the most elementary form of selfpreservation and a declaration of independence from rascal
Roosevelt and his kike financiers.

These millions of bond boycotters rightly take the stand

that when Morgenthau and Roosevelt have sold their millions
of dollars worth of real estate and have invested the proceeds
in Government bonds, then Christian Americans can consider a
similar step. As long as Morgenthau and Roosevelt continue
to hang on to their real values, however, every real American

is more than justified in buying something else which is tangible
and will increase in monetary value.

Official Italian Broadcast to Latin America, May 17, 1942:
American distrust in war bonds must be very great. The
Government has had to urge savers not to hide their money in
mattresses and in stockings because this constitutes an attitude
of non-cooperation and bad will. This attitude must be very
common because there is so much worry about it.

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Official German Broadcast to North America, May 16, 1942:
Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau's new scheme will
require that every person who files an income tax return must

pay a $5 fee on the spot, while whoever fails to file will be
subject, of course, to a fine. Thus, this funny prankish
financier arranges things so that he will get a rake-off from

all real Americans both coming and going.

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May 25, 1942.

Dear Mrs. Coolidge:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help

in our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds
and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 300 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,

to see that you are supplied with all the necessary
details and information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) R. Morganthan, is.

Mrs. Calvin Coolidge,
112 Washington Avenue,

Northampton, Massachusetts.
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May 25, 1942

Dear Mrs. Wilson:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help
in our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds
and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 800 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,
to see that you are supplied with all the necessary

details and Information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
did

(Signed)

Mrs. Woodrow Wilson,

2340 S Street, N. W.,
Washington, D. C.
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May 25, 1942

Dear Mrs. Roosevelt:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help

in our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds
and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 300 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,

to see that you are supplied with all the necessary
details and information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) 1. Morgenthan, Jr.

Mrs. Theodore Roosevelt,
Oyster Bay,
Long Island, New York.
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May 25, 1942

Dear Mrs. Preston:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help
in our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds
and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 300 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,
to see that you are supplied with all the necessary

details and information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) N. Morgenthau, JR

Mrs. T. J. Preston,
58 Bayard Lane,

Princeton, New Jersey.

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May 25, 1942

Dear Mrs. Harrison:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help

in

our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds

and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 300 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,

to see that you are supplied with all the necessary
details and information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, as

Mrs. Benjamin Harrison,
29 East 64th Street,

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May 25, 1942

Dear Mrs. Hoover:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help
in our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds
and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 300 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,
to see that you are supplied with all the necessary

details and information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
Sr.

(Signed)

Mrs. Herbert Hoover,

N.

Morgenthan,

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c/o Leland Stanford University,

Palo Alto, California.

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May 25, 1942

My dear Senator:

I am sorry to learn that your mother
is not well. Because of her illness I am
sending the enclosed letter to her in your
care. We are asking the wives of former

Presidents each to contribute a message
on the importance of investing in War Bonds.

If there is any way in which

Julian Street, Jr., of my office, can

help in getting suitable material prepared
for such a statement he is at your service.
Sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

The Honorable Robert A. Taft,
United States Senate,
Washington, D. C.

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May 25, 1942

Dear Mrs. Taft:

I am writing to ask if we may enlist your help
in our campaign for the purchase of War Savings Bonds
and Stamps.

As part of its campaign, the Treasury wishes to
lay special emphasis on the rich heritage of American
tradition which we are fighting to preserve.
Any message which you, as the wife of a former
President, could give us regarding the importance of
the War Savings effort would carry great weight with

the American public. Could you give us a brief state-

ment of 200 or 300 words long which we could release
to the press?

I am assigning Julian Street, Jr., of my office,
to see that you are supplied with all the necessary

details and information needed for the preparation
of your message. He will call on you personally at
your convenience and outline our present objectives

in greater detail. I sincerely hope that you will

find it possible to make this contribution to a most

vital part of the Treasury Department's war program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) 3. Morgenthes, m

Mrs. William Howard Taft,
2215 Wyoming Avenue, N. W.,

Washington, D. C.

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Supreme Court of the United States
Washington,D.

May 25, 1942.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I have received your letter of this date asking me to speak
at the meeting to be held at the Lewisohn Stadium in New York on June

the third in connection with the effort to rally the Negroes to the
support of our common cause. I am exceedingly loathe to decline your

very earnest invitation, both because of my keen interest in the wary
effort and my appreciation of the difficulty of the problem to which
you refer. But, while my general health is good, age has taken its
toll and I find myself no longer equal to any long sustained effort.
I do not feel that I could undertake such an engagement as you sug-

gest. Indeed, I regret to say that I am admonished that the time has
come when I must forego the privilege of preparing and delivering
public addresses. I am very sorry to disappoint you.
With high esteem, I am,
Very sincerely yours,

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

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May 25, 1942

My dear Mr. Chief Justice:
I am writing to ask whether you would accept a

speaking engagement on June 3rd which would be a real

service not only to the War Savings program but to the
war effort as a whole.
As you know, the President and many others in
Washington have been increasingly disturbed over the
attitude of Negroes toward the war and toward their

participation in it. Public opinion surveys have

indicated that Axis propaganda, particularly Japanese,

has made more serious inroads among our Negroes than

among any other group in the population. In the light
of this information, the President recently asked a

number of government departments whether they could de
anything to remind the Negro people of their tremendous

stake in the outcome of this war and to rally them to
the active support of the common cause.

Accordingly, the Treasury Department has arranged

a series of great meetings in large cities, including
one in Lewisohn Stadium, New York, on the evening of

June 3rd. It would be a high compliment to the Negro
people if you would consent to be the chief speaker on

this occasion. There will be only one speaker; the rest

of the program will consist of singing by Paul Robeson
and Marian Anderson, and a call for pledges and voluntary
help in connection with the War Savings campaign.

I should not be trespassing on your retirement in

this way if I did not feel that this was a vitally important

occasion and that your presence would guarantee its success.
I do hope that you can see your way clear to accept, and
I can think of no one else who could do so much good.

With best regards,
Sincerely,
(Signed) n. Morgenthan. ⑉

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The Honorable Charles Evans Hughes,
2223 R Street,
Washington, D. C.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

May 25, 1942

Mr. Skouras is bringing with him two men who will
help on our rallies. Would you want them for
dinner tonight? Mr. Skouras apparently had planned
to discuss the whole thing with me and with them at
dinner this evening.
7. IC.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

MAY 25 1942

40A
Subject: Number of days it takes to receive a war savings
FROM

Mr. Haad

bond issued by a Federal Reserve Bank or by a
corporation issuing agent.

In accordance with your instructions, the Federal

Reserve Banks were asked to make a sample survey each

Friday morning that would show the number of days it
takes a person to receive a war savings bond (1) issued
by the Federal Reserve Bank, or (2) issued by a corpora-

tion which has qualified as an issuing agent. This
survey was intended to take the place of the postal card
survey conducted by the Federal Reserve Banks last month,
a survey which you will recall provided us with no useful
information.

The first of the Friday morning surveys was conducted
by the Federal Reserve Banks last week and the results are
summarized in the two tables attached. The more important

items noted are the following:

(1) A person buying a war savings bond by sending
a check to the Federal Reserve Bank through
the mails normally waits 8 days before he receives his bond. Two of these days are consumed by the movement of the mails; three more
of these days are required by the Federal
Reserve Bank to collect the check; and one of
these days is a Sunday on which no business
is transacted,
(2)

At peak periods -- particularly those when a
large volume of applications are on hand for
companies whose employees are purchasing under
the payroll savings plan -- it takes a person
10 to 15 days to obtain his bond. The three
Federal Reserve Banks standing at the top of
Table I attached were apparently in the midst
of such peak periods last Friday morning.

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(3) A few corporation issuing agents are taking a month
to deliver bonds purchased by employees participat-

ing in the payroll savings plan (Table II). Most

corporations are able to deliver bonds purchased by
such employees within 2 weeks after payment has been
completed, however, and a few corporations are able
to deliver the bonds the very same day the payments
are completed. Some of these last-mentioned corporations, it appears from the Federal Reserve Bank
reports, expedite delivery by inscribing the bonds
before the deduction which constitutes the final
payment has been made from the employees' salaries.

In submitting the data requested, the Federal Reserve Banks
suggested that a great many technical details prevented them
and the corporation issuing agents from issuing savings bonds

within a shorter period of time. In this connection, it may be

noted that here in the Treasury 7 days is the normal period

that elapses between the time when payment is completed by an

employee on his bond and the bond is delivered to him. A single
bond could be issued much more rapidly but a procedure capable
of handling a large volume of bonds requires a great many technical safeguards, each one of which contributes to the delay in
the issuance of the bond.
There will be another survey, similar to the one made on
May 15, made as of May 22. In this connection, the Federal

Reserve Banks of New York, Philadelphia and Cleveland telephoned

or wired the Treasury asking that they be permitted to avoid
contacting corporation issuing agents for information on the
period of time it takes to issue savings bonds. The Reserve
banks are strongly of the opinion that (1) a number of corporations who are now issuing agents will refuse to issue bonds
if they know the Treasury will check up on them, and (2) the
possibility of such check-ups will prevent many corporations
who are not issuing agents from becoming qualified.

Attachments

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Table I

Approximate Number of Days it Takes a Person to
Receive a War Savings Bond Issued by a
Federal Reserve Bank 1

(On the basis of a survey made Friday, May 15, 1942)
Federal Reserve
Bank

Richmond

Number

of days 1

Explanation offered by banks
taking more than 7 days

Usual period is 8 days. Day of

15

survey happened to include bonds

issued on a large order, the applications accompanying which

included a great many errors in
inscriptions.

Philadelphia

Payroll savings applications take
10 days. Other applications take

10

7 days.

San Francisco

Chicago

Dallas
Boston
New York

Kansas City
Cleveland

Minneapolis

Atlanta

St. Louis

Delay due to fact bank handled
large payroll savings orders during the period.

10

8

8

8

7

6

5

4

4

4

May 21, 1942

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.

1/ Allows 2 days for period in the mails.

Longest Period of Time It Hight employee or

His War Savings Bond Pur chased Under the Payroll Savings Plan and Issued by His Employer.

(On the basis of a survey made by the Federal Reserve Banks on May 15, 1942)
Maximum num-

ber of days

Name of company and location

Explanations submitted by the

it might take

Federal Reserve Banks

to receive
bond

1. Western Union Telegraph Co., Kansas City, Mo.

2. Kansas City Southern Railway, Kansas City,Mo.

33

Company will issue on June 15 the bonds for which

30

21

payments were completed on May 15 and May 31.
Company issued on May 15 bonds for which payments

20

Minimum period is 15 days.

were completed on April 24.

3. A corporation selected by the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York

4. A corporation selected by the Federal Reserve
Bank of San Francisco

5. General Electric Supply Corp., Richmond, Va.

Company will issue on May 31 the bonds for which

15

payments were completed on May 15 and May 31.

Company will issue on June 14 the bonds for which

14

6. Bell Telephone Co. of Pennsylvania,
Philadelphia, Pa.
7. Brown and Bigelow, St. Paul, Minn.

payments were completed on May 31.
Company issued on May 15 bonds for which payments
were completed on May 5.

10

9

8. Emerson Electric Mfg. Co., St. Louis, Mo.

Minimum period is 5 days.

9

9. Sinclair Refining Co., Kansas City, Mo.

Company hopes to improve the service.
Wages earned by employees of this company are not

7

10. A. C. Lawrence Leather Co., Peabody, Mass.
11. Ash Grove Lime & Cement Co., Kansas City, Mo.

available until 5 days after pay period closes so

7

employee gets his bond only 2 days after he gets

7

his pay.
Ditto,

12. Philico Corporation, Philadelphia, Pa.
(continued)

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.

May 21, 1942.

Longest Period of

His War Savings Bond Purchased

(On the basis of a survey made by the Federal Reserve Banks on May 15, 1942)
(Continued-2)

Maximum num-

Name of company and location

ber of days
to receive

Explanations submitted by the

it might take

Federal Reserve Banks

bond

13. Crown Drug Co., Kansas City, Mo.

14. St. Louis Independent Packing Co.,
St. Louis, Mo.

15. Texas and Pacific Railway, Dallas, Texas

6

6

6

16. Neiman Marcus, Dallas, Texas

4

17. Sears Roebuck Co., Dallas, Texas
18. Fred Wolferman Inc., Kansas City, Mo.
19. Theo. Hamm Brewing Co., St. Paul, Minn.

4

4

4

In some instances delivery is made same day payment

4

20. Campbell Soup Co., Camden, N. J.

21. A corporation selected by the Federal

is completed.

3

Reserve Bank of New York

22. Sears Roebuck Co., Minneapolis, Minn.

2

1

23. Commander-Larabee Milling Co., Kansas City,Mo.
24. Cowden Manufacturing Co., Kansas City, Mo.

Bonds delivered day payment 18 completed.
Ditto.

0

O

25. American Refrigerator Transit Co. St. Louis,Mo.
26. Miller & Rhoads Inc., Richmond, Va.
27. A corporation selected by the Federal Reserve

Ditto.
Ditto.

0

0

Bank of New York

O

28. Holtzer Cabot Electric Co. Roxbury, Mass.
29. Eastern Gas & Fuel Associates, Boston, Mass.

0

Ditto.

Ditto.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics

May 21, 1942

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE May 25, 1942
TO

Secretary Morrenthau

FROM

Mr. Has

Subject: Operation of the payroll savings plan in 12,295
companies in April.

1. The attached table, summarizing the operations of
the payroll savings plan in 12,295 companies during April,
covers about 40 percent of the persons employed by all organizations exposed to the plan in the middle of that month. The
data shown have been submitted to the Treasury during the past
weeks in response to your monthly letter to companies having
the plan requesting information on the progress of the plan in
their organizations.
2. The 12,295 companies reporting to the Treasury for
April employed 8.2 million persons, some 56 percent of whom

actively participated in the payroll savings plan during the
month of April. In the aggregate, these persons authorized
their employers to deduct approximately 4.9 percent of their
pay during the month of April for the purpose of accumulating
funds for the purchase of war savings bonds. On the average,
this amounted to $8.31 for each one of the persons participating, an amount sufficient to permit the purchase of one
$25 bond every 10 weeks.

3. On the basis of the application of the foregoing
figures to the entire 21 million persons reported to have

been exposed to payroll savings plans in the month of April,
it is estimated that approximately 11,750,000 persons had
funds deducted from their pay for the purchase of war savings
bonds and that the aggregate amount of such deductions was
approximately 895 million. As a result of the lag between the
time that deductions are made and bonds are actually purchased
from the funds accumulated, the total purchases of war savings

bonds under the payroll savings plan during April, it is estimated, amounted to only about $65 million.

4. On previous occasions tables similar to the attached
have been transmitted to you covering the operations of the

payroll savings plan in December, January, February and March.
These tables covered a smaller number of companies than appear

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on the table attached, but the proportions of the total num-

ber of persons exposed to the plan in those months that were
covered were roughly the same as in the present table, i.e.
about 40 percent. A comparison of the percentages and the

per capita figures (rather than the absolute figures) therefore, will provide an overall picture of the progress made
during the past five months in bringing up (1) the percent
of participation in the plan and (2) the per capital amount of
salary deducted once the plan has been installed. They will
also provide a cue to the distance that still has to be COVered to attain the goal that has been set for the War Savings

Bonds Sales program. The figures are shown below:
Percent of

Deduction
:Pay of Partici- : Average
Per Employee
EmployParticipating
Participating :pating
ees Deducted
:

Employees

:
:

:
:

:

December

January
February
March

April

:

Percent of

21.4
37.1
46.5
51.5
55.9

4.1
4.5
4.8
4.9
4.9

100%

10%

$ 7.10
7.28
7.69
8.08
8.31

May

June

July
Goal

$17.00

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Summary of the Operation of Payroll Savings Plans in April 1942
(As reported to the Treasury
byin12,295
companies participating in
the plan
that month)
Aggregate

Number

number

of

Size of company

: companies:

of

:reporting:

employees
exposed

Aggregate

number of
employees

participating
in payroll
savings plans

Percentage

of employees:

participating

:

:
:

Under 100 employees

3,798

183,610

129,229

70.4

499 employees

5,755

1,310,455

787,645

60.1

500 999 employees

1,435

983,117

551,903

1,000 4,999 employees

1,091

2,198,561

5,000 9,999 employees

124

100

Aggregate

payroll
of

employees
exposed

Aggregate
amount
of

deductions
from pay

Percentage
of

aggregate
pay

deducted

Approximate

aggregate

payroll of
employees

participating

Percentage

Average

of aggregate

deduction

ticipating

employees

pay of paremployees

deducted

for

participation
in

April

27,786,452

1,054,305

3.8

19,561,662

5.4

8.16

191,108,200

5,866,606

3.1

114,856,028

5.1

7.45

56.1

152,486,607

4,190,761

2.7

85,544,987

4.9

7.59

1,184,213

53.9

359,556,330

9,319,402

2.6

193,800,862

4.8

7.87

857,120

474,670

55.4

154,661,313

4,432,319

2.9

85,682,367

5.2

9.34

10,000 19,999 employees

52

735,412

394,714

53.7

133,818,981

3,273,499

2.4

20,000 and over

71,860,793

4.6

8.29

40

1,953,502

1,076,877

55.1

367,022,820

10,071,090

2.7

202,229,574

5.0

9.35

8,221,777

4,599,251

55.9

$1,386,440,703

$ 38,207,982

2.8

775,020,353

4.9

$8.31

Total All companies

12,295

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.

May 25, 1942.

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May 25, 1942

TO:

SUBJECT:

HAROLD N. GRAVES
PROGRESS REPORT FROM WAR SAVINGS STAFF

PAYROLL SAVINGS

The Payroll War Savings Plan has now been adopted

by 381,398 firms. A total of 19,998,000 employees, or 66 per
cent of the 30,400,000 employees of private industries
throughout the nation now may purchase War Savings Bonds

through the War Savings Plan.

In addition, 1,481,195, or 34 per cent of the
4,400,000 of Federal, State, and Local Governments now have

the Payroll Savings Plan available to them.
The following states now report 90 per cent or more
of their over 500 employee firms as having installed the
Payroll War Savings Plan: Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Maine,
Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oregon,

Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Virginia

and Wyoming. Alaska reports all three firms with over 500
employees as having installed the Payroll Savings Plan.

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ORGANIZATION

The following statistical estimates were made on

May 19, 1942:

800

1. Paid Personnel

1503

2. Members of State Committees

2845

3. County chairmen

Count of committee members in all states not
including the three classes above

4.

200,000

(This figure was arrived at on the basis of
returns of 39 states - 78% of the population.)

5. The above estimates do not include volunteers such as:
House-to-house canvassers for
County Committees
Pledge Campaign Minute Men
Speakers Committees

Life Underwriters
Women actively at work in
Sales Booths
Retailers Committees

Retail Store Stamp Booth Salesgirls
Investment Brokers

American Legion
Spanish War Veterans
USDA County Agents

Organized Church and Club Groups
Foreign Language Group Workers

Special Payroll Committees

6.

Total Bond Sales to May 1

7.

Total Stamp Sales to May 1

8.

Income receivers

9.

10.

School teachers and

students serving as

Group Agents

Employees of banks and

other Issuing Agents
devoting substantial

portions of their time

to Payroll and Bank Draf

Plans

Issuing Agents
representatives
News Boy Carriers

Mail Carriers

Negro Committees

Radio, Movie & Press
Groups

$5,400,000,000.
217,572,300.
50,000,000.
25,000,000.

Employees we expect to reach under payroll plans
Other persons to be reached by systematic
canvass of United States

25,000,000.

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NEWSPAPER CARRIER SALES

A total of 294,534,003 ten-cent War Stamps, or
their equivalent in Bonds, or Stamps of larger denominations,
have been sold to date by the newspaper carrier boys of 882
newspapers. This represents an increase in the number of
stamps sold since May 14 of 14,747,125.
RADIO

Seven special broadcasts emphasizing War Bonds are

scheduled for United Nations Day, June 14. The programs
which will feature the War Savings theme are:
"Manhattan Merry-Go-Round", NBC, 9:00-9:30 P.M, drama

Wheeling Steel, Blue, 5:30-6:00 P.M. ,Neo-classical music
Tommy Dorsey, Blue, 8:00-8:30 P.M., popular music

Dr. Harry Fosdick, Blue, 4:00-4:30 P.M., religious program
Full-hour all-star broadcast from West Coast, network

and time not yet set.
"Plays for Americans", dramatic, NBC, 5:30 P.M.
Dr. Charles E. Fuller, Mutual Broadcasting System,9:00 P.M.

old-fashioned revival.
The Payroll Savings Plan has been installed by 484

radio stations throughout the nation, of which 386 report 100%
participation by employees.

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RADIO (Continued)

Admiral Conard, Chairman of the Interdepartmental

Committee for the Voluntary Payroll Savings Plan for the
purchasing of War Savings Bonds will broadcast on the
"New York Government" program Monday, May 25, from 8:30-8:45 P.M.,
over station WWDC.

The Audichron Company reports a monthly average
of 13,750,000 War Bond messages were given to telephone

subscribers who dialed Audichron for the time of day in 19 states.

Bulova is giving 25 per cent of its radio time -- a
total of 7,000 "time signals" per week on all stations over
the country.
PRESS

Through arrangements made by Press Section, Life
Magazine this week reports on the Minute Man Campaign in

Davenport, Iowa, and Rock Island, Illinois. Copy attached.

Collier's in its current issue carries both an
editorial on War Bonds as an investment and an item on the new

Slapajap cocktails. Marked co py attached.
Also attached are magazine covers of Charm and
Woman's Home Companion, showing Bond and Stamp mentions.

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FOREIGN LANGUAGE PRESS

All daily and weekly foreign language publications
on our exchange published War Bond material in connection
with "I Am An American Day", Sunday, May 17. Sample copy
attached.

Five editorials on War Bonds written by leading
citizens of five foreign language groups were sent out this
week. Copies attached. At our suggestion one Chinese and
one Greek newspaper contributed original War Bond cartoons.
Copies attached.

Dr. Lewis Stein, author of the best seller "I was
in Hell with Hitler", has submitted a War Bond editorial to be
sent to Foreign Language and Religious Publications.
RELIGIOUS PRESS

The David C. Cook Publishing Company of Illinois,

publishers of Sunday School and Bible literature and

periodicals, with a total circulation of more than one million,
is now carrying War Bond copy and promises to increase

cooperation in the future.
The Executive Committee of the Federal Council of
Churches of Christ in America, with a membership of 25,000,000,
adopted a resolution on May 15th urging Christians everywhere
to buy Bonds.

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COMPANY PUBLICATIONS

A special visual presentation of the War Savings
Program was presented to more than 500 company publication

editors on May 14, in connection with the annual convention
of the National Council of Editors Association.
More than 150 requests were received from editors

present for a complete transcript of the presentation. They
wanted these, the editors said, to bring the story directly to
the attention of their chief executives for the purpose of
showing them how important a comprehensive program on War

Bonds and Stamps is to the nation.
FARM PUBLICATIONS

To date 18 publications with a total circulation of
6,000,000 readers have advised that they will publish our farm
advertisement, "Winning the War Begins on the Farm", in forthcoming issues. This advertisement was mailed to them on
May 15.
MINUTE MAIDS

Jetsy Parker and Dorothy Schoemer, M-G-M starlets who

are touring the nation as Minute Maids in a campaign to sell
sufficient Bonds and Stamps to raise $3,500,000 -- the cost of a
destroyer -- were in Washington Saturday, May 23. They were
photographed at the Capitol and on the Treasury steps by both
still and newsreel photographers. The Minute Maids reported that

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MINUTE MAIDS (Continued)

thus far they have sold $2,200,000 worth of Bonds and Stamps

and they expect to "go over the top" after visiting New York
City.

JAMEZ INDIANS

The Jamez Indians, who are touring the nation in
the interest of the War Savings Program through the courtesy
of the Santa Fe Railroad, appeared in Boston on May 18, 19,
and 20, and in St. Louis on May 22 and 23.
MOTION PICTURES

The special Payroll Savings motion picture being

filmed at the International Harvester plant in Chicago will
be ready for release shortly. The revised script now has the
approval of International Harvester officials and of the
Treasury.

From May 1 through May 23, 1942
Compared with Sales Quote for Same Period

(At issue price in millions of dollars)

to

Date

Date

1

12.7
11.6

12.7
24.3

14.0
25.7

2

4

22.3
8.9
18.4
23.2
17.2
14.5

46.5
55.5
73.8
97.0
114.2
128.7

5

6

7

8

9

23.3
9.4
15.8
16.9
14.9
14.3

11

12
13
14

15
16

18

24.3
9.8
13.7
19.4
19.1
14.1

19
20
21
22

23

25
26
27

28
29

Sales

to Date
as % of

Daily

Quota

Total

: Sales

to

to

to Date
as % of

Date

Date*

Quota

May 1

:

to

Daily

:

May 1

Date

Quota,
May 1

:

Actual Sales

Series F and G
Quota,
Actual Sales
:

Series E

May 1

Actual Sales
to

to

to Date
as % of

Date

Date

Quote

$ 26.0

76.9%

47.1

83.7

May 1

Daily

Sales

Quota,
May 1

94.6

7.9

15.2

21.4

71.0

19.4

20.0
39.4

47.8
57.8
70.5
84.0
98.0
109.7

97.3
96.0
104.7
115.5
116.5
117.3

10.3
7.6
15.6
12.1

25.5
33.1
48.8
60.8
67.2
72.8

39.4
49.3
64.9
76.9
86.1
92.6

64.7
67.1
75.2
79.1
78.0
78.6

32.6
16.6
34.0
35.3
23.6
20.0

72.0
88.6
122.6
157.9
181.4
201.5

87.2
107.1
135.4
160.9
184.1
202.3

82.6
82.7
90.5
98.1
98.5
99.6

152.0
161.3
177.1
194.0
208.9
223.2

131.8
141.8
154.5
168.0
182.0
193.7

115.3
113.8
114.6
115.5
114.8
115.2

8.1
4.6

9.0
7.7
6.8
5.2

80.8
85.4
94.4
102.1
108.9
114.1

104.2
110.6
120.8
129.3
136.5
142.1

77.5
77.2
78.1
79.0
79.8
80.3

31.3
14.0
24.8
24.6
21.7
19.5

232.8
246.8
271.5
296.2
317.9
337.4

236.0
252.4
275.3
297.3
318.5
335.8

98.6
97.8
98.6
99.6
99.8
100.5

247.5
257.4
271.1
290.5
509.6

215.8
225.8
238.5
252.0
266.0
277.7

114.7
114.0
113.7
115.3
116.4
116.6

9.4
4.2
11.2
10.6
7.1
4.8

123.5
127.7
138.9
149.5
156.6
161.4

153.0
159.2
169.6
178.4
186.1
192.3

80.7
80.2
81.9
83.8
84.1
83.9

33.7
14.0
24.9
30.0
26.2
18.9

371.1
$85.1
410.0
440.0
466.2
485.1

368.8
385.0
408.1
430.4
452.1
470.0

100.6
100.0
100.5
102.2
105.1
103.2

323.7

299.8
309.8
322.5
336.0
350.0

90.7%

$ 7.3

6.4

5.6

$ 7.3

$ 12.0

60.8%

$ 20.0

204.9
212.5
226.2
238.7
250.0

office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
Actual sales figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of sales of
Source:
United States savings bonds. Figures have been rounded and will not necessarily add to totals.
Takes into account both the daily trend during the week and the monthly trend during the month.

504.7
522.3
548.7
574.7
600.0

May 25, 1942.

From May 1 through May 23. 1942
Compared with Sales Quota for Same Period

CONFIDENTIAL

(At issue price in millions of dollars)

15
16

18
19
20

21
22
23
25
26
27
28
29

:

14

to

Date

Date*

:

:

13

:

12

May 1

to

$ 7.3

$ 7.3

$ 9.0

25.7

94.6

7.9

15.2

16.0

47.8
57.8

10.3
7.6

84.0
98.0
109.7

97.3
96.0
104.7
115.5
116.5
117.3

25.5
33.1
48.8
60.8
67.2
72.8

152.0
161.3
177.1
194.0
208.9
223.2

131.8
141.8
154.5
168.0
182.0
193.7

115.3
113.8
114.6
115.5
114.8
115.2

247.5
257.4
271.1
290.5
309.6
323.7

215.8
225.8
238.5
252.0
266.0
277.7

114.7
114.0
113.7
115.3
116.4
116.6

$ 12.7

11.6

24.3

22.3
18.4
23.2
17.2
14.5

46.5
55.5
73.8
97.0
114.2
128.7

23.3
9.4
15.8
16.9
14.9
14.3

24.3
9.8
13.7
19.4
19.1
14.1

8.9

:

11

Quota

:

9

Date

:

7

8

Date

May 1

Daily

$ 14.0

70.5

299.8
309.8
322.5
336.0
350.0

90.7%

15.6
12.1
6.4
5.6
8.1

4.6
9.0
7.7
6.8
5.2
9.4
4.2
11.2
10.6
7.1

4.8

to Date
as % of

Actual Sales

Quota

Quota,
May 1

Sales

to

to

to Date
as % of

Date

Date

Quota

May 1

Daily

Total
:

5

6

to

May 1

Sales

:

4

$ 12.7

:

1

2

to

to Date
as % of

:

Daily

Sales

:

Date

Quota,
May 1

:

Series F and G
Actual Sales
Quota,

Series E

Actual Sales

$ 20.0

$ 20.0

$ 23.0

19.4
32.6
16.6
34.0
35.3
23.6
20.0

39.4

41.7

94.5

29.5
37.1
49.8
60.3
69.3
76.3

95.0
86.4
89.2
98.0
100.8
97.0
95.4

72.0
88.6
122.6
157.9
181.4
201.5

77.3
94.9
120.3
144.3
167.3
186.0

93.1
93.4
101.9
109.4
108.4
108.3

80.8
85.4
94.4
102.1
108.9
114.1

89.8
97.4
110.1
120.6
129.6
136.6

90.0
87.7
85.7
84.7
84.0
83.5

31.3
14.0
24.8
24.6
21.7
19.5

232.8
246.8
271.5
296.2
317.9
337.4

221.6
239.2
264.6
288.6
311.6
330.3

105.1
103.2
102.6
102.6
102.0
102.1

123.5
127.7
138.9
149.5
156.6
161.4

150.1
157.7
170.3
180.8
189.8
196.8

82.3
81.0
81.6
82.7
82.5
82.0

33.7
14.0
24.9
30.0
26.2
18.9

371.1
385.1
410.0
440.0

365.9
383.5
408.8
432.8
455.8
474.5

101.4
100.4
100.3
101.7
102.3
102.2

210.3
217.9
230.5
241.0
250.0

81.1%

466.2
485.1

87.0%

510.1
527.7
553.0
577.0
600.0

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics,
Source: Actual sales figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of sales of
United States savings bonds. Figures have been rounded and will not necessarily add to totals.
Takes into account daily trend within the week, but does not take into account the trend by weeks during the month.

May 25, 1942.

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May 25, 1942

Dear Eleanor:

I received your message that you wanted a memorandum from me explaining the Treasury's recommendation on

joint income tax returns.

This inquiry gives me an opportunity to bring
several matters to your attention. I am enclosing
herewith a copy of United Press ticker item reporting
on your press conference of the 20th. I would like
to clear up the two points which you were reported
as having discussed at this press conference.
In answer to the first one in regard to delay
in paying government employees, I am enclosing here-

with a copy of a letter which I wrote to you in regard to this subject. I would like to draw your attention to the fact, which I pointed out in this
letter, that the delay is not with the Treasury but

with these various agencies, and I think you will remember
the troubles you had in OCD in getting new employees

paid.

On Point Two, in regard to our informing you on
the proposed joint income tax returns, I wrote you on
this subject on April 21st, and I am enclosing a copy

of this memorandum because evidently you never received

it.

In case you did not get our telephoned reply on
your question in regard to the $25,000 limit, I am sending
you a written memorandum covering this subject.

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After reading these communications, if you
still have any questions that you care to ask me,
please feel free to do so.

Affectionately yours,
(Signed) Henry

Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt,
The White House.

S.S. agent. 4:35

Coorwelt 9th pay Checks taxes

HRS. ROOSEVELT EXPRESSED MILD CRITICISM OF AGE LIMITS GOVERNING INISTMENT IN. THE WOMEN'S AUXILIARY ARMY CORPS.
SHE FAVORS 55 AS THE MAXIMUM AGE RATHER THAN THE 45-YEAR
LIMIT WHICH HAS BEEN SET. MANY OLDER WOMEN WOULD DO WORK WHICH WOULD
RELEASE SOLDIERS FOR ACTIVE DUTY, SHE TOLD HER PRESS CONFERENCE.
MRS. ROOSEVELT ALSO EXPRESSED THE HOPE THAT THE WAAC WOULD NOT
ELIMINATE OLDER WOMEN IN FAVOR OF YOUTH OR TURN DOWN QUALIFIED WORKERS

FOR SLIGHT PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.
MRS. ROOSEVELT DESCRIBED NEW DORMITORIES WHICH ARE TO BE BUILT FOR
GIRL WAR VORKERS. SEVEN THOUSAND ROOMS ARE TO
BE PROVIDED IN A LONELY LOCATION NEAR ARLINGTON CEMETERY
BUT MRS. ROOSEVELT SAID SHE HAD BEEN ASSURED THAT THERE WOULD BE
ADEQUATE POLICE PROTECTION.

FURNITURE IN ROOMS WILL BE A DAYBED, EASY CHAIR, FLOOR LAMP,
SMALL TABLE AND CHEST OF DRAWERS. CAFETERIAS WILL BE OPERATED IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE DORMITORIES, AND RATES WILL BE NOT MORE THAN $50
A MONTH FOR ROOM AND TWO MEALS A DAY.

BETWEEN WINGS OF THE BUILDINGS WILL BE BADMINTON AND TENNIS COURTS
FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION.

MRS. ROOSEVELT SAID SHE MAD INTERVENED WITH SECRETARY MORGENTHAU IN
BEHALF OF WAR WORKERS, TO SHORTEN THE LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE THEY GET
THEIR FIRST PAYCHECKS.

MRS. ROOSEVELT REVEALED ALSO SHE HAD ASKED MORGENTHAU FOR ADDITIONA:
INFORMATION ON THE PROPOSED JOINT MANDATORY INCOME TAX FOR

HUSBANDS AND WIVES. MEANWHILE, SHE SAID SHE WAS WITHHOLDING AN
OPINION.

5/20--R218P

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"Copy"

May 13, 1942

Dear Eleanor:

The situation to which you refer in your
letter of May 9th, as to delays in receiving
their pay experienced by new employees coming
to work in Washington, is not due to any Trea-

sury inaction but to the failure of administra

tive agencies to place the employees' names on
the payrolls and to certify them to the Treasury
Division of Disbursement.

I am told that the Office for Emergency
Management has had difficulty in this respect
and it is probably true of other newly created
war agencies. It is a situation which should be
corrected and I have directed that it be taken
up with the various agencies concerned.
Affectionately,
(Signed) Henry

Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt,
The White House.

"P.S.: Thank you for bringing this to my attention."

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Mandatory Joint Returns

The Treasury's purpose of making Joint tax re-

turns mandatory is to equalise tax burdens among

families. A family with an income of $5,000 earned
or received only by the husband - or only by the

wife - is affected by a dollar of taxes in the same

way as a family with the same total income earned OF

received by husband and wife equally. If Joint tax
returns are required, both families pay the same tax,
but if separate returns are allowed the first family
pays a substantially larger tax than the second.
About 9 couples out of 10 have been filing Joint
returns right along even though they have had the

option of filing separate returns. Separate returns
can save taxes only for a small minority of married

couples where both husband and wife receive substantial
amounts of income.

It shows a lack of understanding of the Treasury

proposal to say that the elimination of this tax advantage of the relatively few undermines women's
rights. The incomes of the husband and wife are

added for the purpose of computing the total family

tax. The total tax is then divided into shares to

be paid by the husband and wife in proportion to their
respective incomes. either spouse has a favored
position. Each pays a senewhat larger tax than If
separate returns were filed, but this has nothing
to do with the sex of either spouse. There is no
subjugation of the wife, and the larger tax sheand the husband - has to pay does not deprive her
of any rights OF individual status. She is not made
liable for her husband's tax. She herself simply paye
a higher tax because she has a better financial posi-

tion from the realistic standpoint of the family

economic unit than the single woman with the same
amount of income, and by doing so she assumes her

fair share of the tax burden.
Part of the proposal for mandatory joint tax
returns enlarges the rights of the working wife by
providing a special earned income credit to the

spouse who earns the smaller income. This is something which should have been allowed before, regard-

less of joint returns, since in the lower income

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families the wife who works outside the home is
not available to render the same service to the
family as she would if not employed outside.
Extra expenses for a servant is necessitated.

This is not very important if the family income is
in any event, but it is very important for low
income families. Great Britain, where joint returns

larger since a servant would probably be employed
have long been required, makes such an allowance.

The interests of the vast majority of the
sandatory joint returns, since their families are
called on to pay the several hundred million dellare a year saved by a small minority through
filing separate returns.

women in the United States would be promoted by

REPIBW

4/20/42

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Statement by Randolph E. Paul

Tax Adviser to the Secretary of the Treasury,
to the Ways and Means Committee of
the House of Representatives, on
A War Supertax on Individual Incomes Above $25,000

1. Introductory
In his message to the Congress on April 27, 1942,
the President said:
,discrepancies between low
.

personal incomes and very high personal incomes should

be lessoned; and I therefore believe that in time of
this grave national danger, when all excess income

should go to win the war, no American citizen ought
to have a net income, after he has paid his taxes, of
more than $25,000 a year.'

There can be no 'equality of privilege' for which
the President has called when some of our citizens

are permitted to enjoy a luxurious standard of living
while others in less fortunate circumstances are called
upon to out their living standards to a bare subsistence
level. The great masses of our people will more cheer-

fully bear a substantial reduction in standard of
living 1f they know that no group is being favored;
that rich and poor alike are giving up the comforts
of peacetime in order that we may more effectively

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-2prosecute the war. A limitation on individual income
would be a very helpful step in assuring the masses

of people that there is to be 'equality of privilege!
in fighting this war. 1
2. Proposed Sax

To implement the President's proposal, the
Treasury now recommends the enactment of a 100 per-

cent war supertax on that part of the net income
after regular income tax which exceeds $25,000.

Under the existing rates for the regular income
tax, this supertax would affect only those persons
whose incomes before tax exceeded about $40,000.

Under the income tax rates tentatively adopted by the
House Ways and Means Committee, the supertax would

affect persons whose incomes before tax exceeded

about $50,000. with mandatory joint returns, the
supertax would fall on approximately 30,000 single
1

Great Britain has recognized that high tax rates,
accesplishing a practical limitation upon individual
incomes, may make an important contribution to the
maintenance of public morale and thus contribute to
the prosecution of the war. In that country under
warting tax rates an individual would have to receive about $500,000 in order to have $25,000 left
after taxes, and an additional $100,000 before taxes
would add only $2,500 to his income after tax.

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-3 persons and married couples and is estimated to yield
about $350 million, in addition to the revenue from

the regular income tax as tentatively revised by the
Ways and Means Committee.

3. Definition of the Taxpayer
A. Persons and married couples

For sarried couples the $25,000, in our
opinion, should apply to the married couple

and not to each spouse. In any event, the
limitation of income to $25,000 after taxes
should apply uniformly throught the country.
For this reason either (1) the married couple
should be allowed a total of $25,000, as we
suggest, or (2) the husband and wife together
should be allowed $50,000, that 10, $25,000

for each, regardless of the actual division
of income. Other procedures, for example,
the provisions of existing law, would produce
glaring discrepancies between families. The
value of residence in community property States

would increase still further, while in other
States income from property which can be divided

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between husband and wife by transfers would
become more valuable relatively to income

from salary, professional practice, or business.

The recent action of your Committee in

approving mandatory joint returns will facilitate the application of the supertax to the
combined income of the two spauses. Despite
mandatory Joint returns, some taxpayers could
avoid some of the 100-percent supertax by

transferring income-producing assets to their
children and to other close relatives who could
be expected to use the income as the donors

desired. To meet this problem, the Treasury
recommends that for purposes of the temporary

supertax such gifts not be recognized and that
the income from then be taxed to the donors.

B. Truste and estates
For purposes of the regular income tax,
trusts and estates are in some cases subject

to the individual income tax, regardless of
the number of beneficiaries and the income of

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- -each from other sources. However, since the
$25,000 limit is directed toward the "American

citizen," that is, the individual himself, the
supertax must of necessity look beyond estates,

trusts, and similar legal entities, to the
real person concerned, the beneficiary. Where
this is not practicable, the Treasury recommends
that the supertax be made applicable to the

fiduciaries.
4. Income Subject to Tax
The Treasury recommends that for purposes of

the supertax, net income be defined to include all
income which is received by the taxpayer during the
taxable year.
A. No tax exemptions

All tax exemptions should be removed for
purposes of the supertax even though they remain

for the regular income tax. For example, there
can be no doubt that presently tax-exempt State

and local interest should be included in taxable
income for purposes of the supertax. The out-

standing supply of State and local securities is

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-6so large that, 1f this were not done, persons
affected by the supertax could substitute taxexempt securities for the larger part of their
taxable securities and thereby mullify the
effect of the supertax. The President specifically
referred to this exemption when he said, "It is
indefensible that those who enjoy large incomes
from State and local securities should be issune

from taxation while we are at war." or course,
the contractual exemption formerly accorded
certain Federal securities must be respected

for purposes of this supertax as for all other
taxes.

B. Pension trusts
For purposes of the supertax, the present
treatment of pension trusts would need to be
revised in such a asnner as to proclude corpora-

tion executives from taking portions of their
compensation in the form of contributions to
pension funds rather than current salary, which
would defeat the purpose of the supertax.

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-7C. Undistributed corporation profits
The imposition of the supertax would add

to the present inducements-for corporations to

withhold profits from distribution to stockholders. Some provision would need to be made

that when dividends declined relative to

corporate profits after taxes, an appropriate
portion of the undivided profits would be taxed
to the stockholder; or else an offsetting tax
would need to be placed on the corporation to

induce profit distribution. One of these
alternatives would be especially necessary where

persons subject to the supertax were in control
of the corporation.
D. Proprietorship and partnership business
income

The individual income tax applies to the
profits from a business run as an individual
proprietorship and to the share of a person

in the prefits of a partnership whether or
not the profits are withdrawn for personal
use. The application of a 100 percent tax

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-8might impose hardship on such businesses and

might impair their growth and endanger their
competitive position.

Accordingly, for the purposes of the
supertax it night be desirable to exclude
business income not withdrawn for personal

use. To prevent tax avoidance by this means,
however, provision night be made that no

larger proportion of the profit could be so
excluded each year than was retained in the
business on the average during a base period.
This would permit normal capital growth and
payment of business debts without unduly oncouraging tax avoidance.

B. Averaging over several years of concentrated
1800man

Incomes that are concentrated to an un-

usual extent in the taxable year, for example,
those in the form of fees, patent rights, commissions, etc., would require special treatment
to average the income over several years as is
now done for income tax computation in the ease
of certain compensation paid on completion of

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-gwork which was done over a period of five years.
The law provides that the tax on such compensa-

tion shall not be greater than If it had been
received over the period during which the work
was done.

F. Charitable contributions
Charitable contributions present a question.
Such contributions are deductible up to 15 percent of net income. Since contributions now
average such less than the allowable 15 percent,
the supertax would operate to increase them

substantially since for persons with incomes

subject to the supertax contributions up to
15 percent of not income would be costless.
While the increase in contributions would be
in effect a means of tax avoidance, the results
in general would not necessarily be undesirable.

It is not suggested that the deduction for
charitable contributions be limited beyond the
limitationsprovided under present law.

5. Relief for Persons with Debt Consitments
The imposition of the $25,000 limit would, of
course, necessitate substantial readjustment in the

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- 10 patterns of living of the persons affected. This
is in part the very purpose of the limitation. A
nation waging total var cannot afford to use its
resources to provide luxurious living for a few.
In many eases, however, the impostion of the super-

tax would result in special hardships because of the
commitments, especially debts, which persons have

incurred and which, 1f they do not meet, will result
in substantial lesses to then.
The great difficulty with any general deduction
for debt or other fixed commitments is the discrimina-

tion which results. Most large debts are incurred to
make investments of one kind OF another. One person

chooses to build up his estate by borrowing money

to buy some earning asset and gradually paying off
the debt from the earnings, while another person
does not borrow, but reinvests his income from year
to year. The allowance of debt as a deduction would
discriminate in favor of the first man as opposed
to the second since the former would be permitted to

build up his estate free from supertax, while the
latter would be prevented from doing so.

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- 11 Fortunately, the cases in which debt commitments
would raise serious problems would not be numerous.

Only commitments to retire principal would be affected,
since interest on indebtedness is deductible in conputing taxable income. Persone with incomes large
enough to be affected by the proposed supertax

ordinarily have a good deal of flexibility in their
financial arrangements because of their assets and

credit standing. The exception of a portion of the
business income of proprietorships and partnerships
previously suggested would meet many situations
where indebtedness was pressing.

Nevertheless, there would undoubtedly be some
cases where fixed commitments of various kinds would

be very difficult to meet and might require a measure

of relief under the supertax. For example, many taxpayers, even some of those with large incomes,

neglected to set aside last year the funds necessary
to meet the taxes on last year's income. The isposi-

tion of the supertax night make it entirely impossible
for such people to accusulate funds to pay taxes on
the current year's income and have anything at all

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left over to cover living expenses. However, to
allow a deduction only for those taxpayers who had not

set aside funds to pay their taxes, while not allowing an equal deduction to the more provident, would

be discriminatory. Accordingly, 11 is suggested that

for the first year only the tax liability on the income of the previous year be allowed as a deduction

in computing income subject to supertax. Thereafter
taxpayers would be on warning to accumulate funds in

advance to pay their taxes.
There are other cases of indebtedness which

might cause hardship in a similar way. Thus, debts
for unusual medical expenses night be a very heavy

burden under the supertax. It would be desirable in
this and other eases to allow a deduction for the
payment of indebtedness.

To assure a minimum of hardship without too
such discrimination, the most workable plan appears

to be to allow a deduction for debt up to perhaps
15 percent of the income after present income taxes.
While this deduction would be intended for the pur-

pose of relieving the hardship of debt, 18 would be

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- 13 made available also to people who had no debt conmitments,
provided 11 was spent in meeting other
financial commitments, such as insurance premiums

on policies taken out is the past,or was invested in
non-negotiable Federal securities.

It is not likely that there would be serious
hardship not remedied by these provisions. How-

ever, if the Committee should feel that serious hardship would still remain, provision might be made for
an appropriate agency of the Federal Government to
make loans in cases of demonstrated hardship. These

loans would not be in excess of the supertax and
would be for the purpose of enabling the taxpayers

to refinance their fixed consitments.
6. Conslusion
To summarize, the Treasury proposes that in
harmony with the President's message to Congress

of April 27. a supertax of 100 persent be imposed

on that part of net income remaining after other
taxes which exceeds $25,000. I have discussed the
more important problems which would be involved in

asking the tax effective and some of the hardships

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- 14 which the tax might impose, and have made suggestions,
for meeting these problems.

Fundamentally, the purpose of this proposed

tax is to promote the war effort. This it would do
by assuring the nasses of people that there is to

be relative 'equality of privilege' in fighting the
wart that all are to share in the sacrifices it
imposes in an equitable manner. I recommend the

proposed tax for your careful consideration.

RBtaw 5/22/42

Presented by Mr. Paul on 5/15/42

(not sent to Mrs.
Roosevelt)

Statement of Mr. Randolph Paul on mandatory

joint returns for individuals

The subject of mandatory joint returns for individ-

uals has been discussed thoroughly before this committee

both last year and this year. I do not feel that any
beneficial result would follow from further extensive
discussion. It will perhaps be useful to the committee
to summarize briefly the considerations in favor of mandatory joint returns and to refer to some of the basic
facts contained in the attached tables.

(1) The basic reason for requiring joint returns

is that a family is, generally speaking, an economic
unit. The income of the husband and the income of the
wife both join to support the family as a whole. The
ability to pay, which is represented by any given total
amount of family income, is the same, whether it is
received by one spouse or both spouses. To allow the
taxes of those families in which both husband and wife
receive income to be substantially less than the taxes
of those families in which the same total amount of
income 18 received by one spouse discriminates against

the latter type of family (except insofar as the fact

that both spouses are working may increase the necessary
expenses of running the home).

(2) In the eight community property States lower
Federal income taxes are imposed on incomes than in the
remaining States. After careful examination of all the
legal arguments, it is our firm conviction that the
difference in the rights of wives to their husbands'
earnings in community and non-community-property States
is not of such a character 8.8 to justify the existing

tax differential. This differential could be removed

by separate legislation. Its removal through mandatory
joint returns would completely eliminate any basis for
the community-property States to claim that correcting
the present inequitable situation would discriminate
against their taxpayers.
(3) In all States the capital, income, and expenses
of husbands and wives can be adjusted with relative ease
to give a minimum tax. This gives rise to a significant
source of tax avoidance that would be removed by requir-

ing joint returns.

332

333

-2(4) The attached tables present data having an
important bearing on the subject of compulsory joint

returns.

Table 1 shows, for 1939, the number of joint and
separate returns of husbands and wives, by broad net
income classes. This table shows that the great mass
of taxpayers file joint returns except for taxpayers
with large incomes. The benefits of separate returns
are limited to the larger incomes. In the income
classes below $6,000 there were fewer than one-tenth as
many separate returns of husbands and wives as joint
returns; in the income classes over $6,000, on the
other hand, there were more than half as many separate
returns of husbands and wives as joint returns.
Table 2 shows the amount of net income reported

on the returns, classified in the same manner as the
returns themselves were in table 1.

In table 3 are shown figures for 1939, indicating
that, in eight community-property States, the per
capita net income on income-tax returns was elightly

higher than in the non-community-property States, while
the per capita Federal income tax was 25 percent lower
in the community-property States than in the noncommunity-property States.

Table 4 records the number of couples filing joint
returns and filing separate returns in each of the
States. The percent of couples filing separate returns

was much larger in every community-property State than
in any non-community-property State, although in no

State did more than one-sixth of the couples file separate returns.

Table 5 shows the maximum difference in Federal
income tax under joint returns and under separate

returns on combined family incomes of different sizes.
These figures are shown both for the present law and
for the Treasury proposal with the reduced personal
exemptions. The difference in tax in some rate brackets
runs as high as 54 percent under the present law and
30 percent under the Treasury proposal.

334

-3In table 6 is shown the revenue yield of the
Treasury proposals with mandatory joint returns.
These figures are comparable with the yield figures
without joint returns, shown in exhibit 80, pages
202-203, in Treasury Data No. 9. With existing
exemptions and with the Treasury rates the imposition
of mandatory joint returns would increase the yield
of the individual income tax by $463.6 million while

under the reduced Treasury exemptions and the proposed Treasury rates the introduction of mandatory
joint returns would increase the revenue $476.2 million.

No figures are shown in these tables reflecting the
tentative action of the committee in adopting a modified schedule of personal exemptions.

335
Statement of Mr. Randolph Paul on mandatory

joint returns for individuals

The subject of mandatory joint returns for individuals has been discussed thoroughly before this committee
both last year and this year. I do not feel that any
beneficial result would follow from further extensive
discussion. It will perhaps be useful to the committee
to summarize briefly the considerations in favor of mandatory joint returns and to refer to some of the basic
facts contained in the attached tables.
(1) The basic reason for requiring joint returns
is that a family is, generally speaking, an economic
unit. The income of the husband and the income of the
wife both join to support the family as a whole. The
ability to pay, which is represented by any given total
amount of family income, is the same, whether it is
received by one spouse or both spouses. To allow the
taxes of those families in which both husband and wife
receive income to be substantially less than the taxes
of those families in which the same total amount of
income is received by one spouse discriminates against

the latter type of family (except insofar as the fact

that both spouses are working may increase the necessary
expenses of running the home).

(2) In the eight community property States lower

Federal income taxes are imposed on incomes than in the

remaining States. After careful examination of all the
legal arguments, it is our firm conviction that the
difference in the rights of wives to their husbands'
earnings in consunity and non-community-property States
is not of such a character as to justify the existing
tax differential. This differential could be removed
by separate legislation. Its removal through mandatory
joint returns would completely eliminate any basis for
the comaunity-property States to claim that correcting
the present inequitable situation would discriminate
against their taxpayers.
(3) In all States the capital, income, and expenses
of husbands and wives can be adjusted with relative ease
to give a minimum tax. This gives rise to a significant
source of tax avoidance that would be removed by requiring joint returns.

336

2

(4) The attached tables present data having an
important bearing on the subject of compulsory joint

returns.

Table 1 shows, for 1939, the number of joint and
separate returns of husbands and wives, by broad net
income classes. This table showe that the great mass

of taxpayers file joint returns except for taxpayers
with large incomes. The benefits of separate returns
are limited to the larger incomes. In the income

classes below $6,000 there were fewer than one-tenth as
many separate returns of husbands and wives as joint
returns: in the income classes over $6,000, on the
other hand, there were more than half as many separate

returns of husbands and wives as joint returns.

Table 2 shows the amount of net income reported

on the returns, classified in the same manner as the
returns themselves were in table 1.

In table 3 are shown figures for 1939, indicating
that, in eight community-property States, the per
capita net income on income-tax returns was slightly
higher than in the non-community-property States, while
the per capita Federal income tax was 25 percent lower
in the comaunity-property States than in the noncommunity-property States.

Table 4 records the number of couples filing joint
returns and filing separate returns in each of the
States. The percent of couples filing separate returns
was much larger in every community-property State than
in any non-community-property State, although in no

State did more than one-sixth of the couples file separate returns.
Table 5 shows the maximum difference in Federal
income tax under joint returns and under separate
returns on combined family incomes of different sizes.
These figures are shown both for the present law and
for the Treasury proposal with the reduced personal
exemptions. The difference in tax in some rate brackets
runs as high as 54 percent under the present law and
30 percent under the Tressury proposal.

337

-3In table 6 is shown the revenue yield of the
Treasury proposals with mandatory joint returns.
These figures are comparable with the yield figures
without joint returns, shown in exhibit 80, pages
202-203, in Treasury Data No. 9. with existing
exemptions and with the Treasury rates the imposition
of mandatory joint returns would increase the yield
of the individual income tax by $463.6 million while
under the reduced Treasury exemptions and the proposed Treasury rates the introduction of mandatory

joint returns would increase the revenue $476.2 million.
No figures are shown in these tables reflecting the
tentative action of the committee in adopting a modified schedule of personal exemptions.

nr

5/26/42

338 sentto Mrs. Prosent
Informal Statement by Randolph E. Paul
to the Ways and Means Committee of
the House of Representatives, on
A War Supertax on Individual Incomes Above $25,000

May 25, 1942

This is more than a moral question. It bears
directly on the effectiveness with which we can mobilize the energy and the enthusiasm of the American

people for winning this war. Specifically, it bears
most directly of all upon the attitude of the men who
work on the production line.
It may interest the Committee to know of a study
made recently in cooperation with the War Production

Board in two of the leading industrial areas of this
country to determine work attitudes toward the war

production effort. An attempt was made by careful
interviewing to discover whether workers in these areas
were heart and soul behind the production program, and

if not, why not. The results were disturbing. They
showed that the enthusiasm of the workers in war industries was only about half what it ought to be. There
were various reasons for this lack of what might be

called workers' morale, but most of them boiled down
to one--namely, distrust of management. And one reason
for this distrust which stood out a bove all others was
the feeling, prevalent a mong 40 percent of the workers
interviewed, that management was profiteering from the

war effort, that the profits of business were utterly
out of line with the sacrifices being a sked of our people
as a whole. There was no evidence of a spirit of "let
George do it" in labor's attitude toward the war effort,
but there was a decided attitude of "I'll do it gladly
if George does it too.'
I mention this study because I think it throws light
on the motives behind the President's proposal to place

a limit of $25,000 on any individual's income. The
Treasury is endorsing and r ecommending this proposal to
you because we too believe that it goes to the heart of
the present doubts and discontents among many of our
industrial workers. Let us grant, for purposes of argument, that such a limitation would bring comparatively

339

-2little additional revenue to the Government, let us
grant also that suchwould
a limitation
not haveupon the very
yet the

of a would be beyond

est effect such income in checking limitation brackets inflation, any calculation. indirect material effects direct high- If

it is true that American labor believes management is
profiteering unduly, then anything that will remove
such a feeling would make labor more willing to

the stabilization of wages, the intensification of accept sav-

ings, the payment of higher taxes, the acceptance of
rationing, and the other elements in the President's
over-all program for combating inflation.

My own feeling is that this proposal of the

President's was made with full knowledge and with the
deepest seriousness as a measure vitally necessary for

the effective prosecution of the war. The tax bill to
be written by this Committee will call for great and
unprecedented levies upon millions with very small
incomes. I submit that your Committee will do well to
consider this proposal earnestly and carefully, and for

this reason we are submitting today an outline of the
technical
methods by which such a proposal could be
carried
out.

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times

Roosent
May 23, 1942

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

Reference is made to my memorandum of May 20th,

in which we outlined for Mrs. Roosevelt the relationship between the limitation of net income to $25,000
and the limitation on charitable and educational contributions to 15 percent of income. The second point
of my memorandum read as follows:

"With respect to the 15 percent charitable
and educational deductions, a provision

would be included which would prevent them

from avoiding the $25,000 limit by increasing their charitable gifts above what they
have been giving in the past."
We believe this position with respect to charitable
contributions should be modified so that the amount of
contributions made in the past would not limit the con-

tributions allowable for the future. Contributions

would be allowed as a deduction up to 15 percent of
income as now provided in the income tax law. This
matter is covered in greater detail on Page 9 of our
suggested statement to the Ways and Means Committee

regarding the proposed supertax on incomes above
$25,000.

This change in position would encourage greater

generosity to charitable and educational institutions
since for persons subject to the supertax contributions
up to 15 percent of income would be costless. The
amount of increased contributions involved might be
substantial since the average contributions reported
on income tax returns total much less than 15 percent
of income.

hs.P.

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May 23, 1942

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

Mr. Fitzgerald called this morning and told me
that Mrs. Roosevelt had requested a statement of the

Treasury reasons for the joint return proposal. Before preparing any such statement, I would like to
discuss the matter with you. It may be that our
previous memorandum on behalf of Mrs. Roosevelt will

be sufficient. We could also furnish her with a copy
of my statement before the Ways and Means Committee

made at the beginning of the discussion of the subject
in the Executive Session. This statement appears on
Page 228 of the Executive Session record.

REP

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The information contained in this memo
a telephoned to some one in Miss Thompson's

office by Mr. Fitzgerald.

344
MEMORANDUM

To:

Secretary Morgenthau

From: Mr. Paul

May 20, 1942.

A note has been handed to me by Mr. Fitzgerald, in which
Miss Thompson, asking for Mrs. Roosevelt, wants to know if the
proposed $25,000 net income limit is the income allowed after

taxes are paid, or if the 15 percent for charitable and educational purposes will still be deductible. These questions may
be answered as follows:

(1) The $25,000 net income limit is after payment of
taxes.

(2) With respect to the 15 percent charitable and
educational deductions, a provision would be
included which would prevent them from avoiding

the $25,000 limit by increasing their charitable
gifts above what they have been giving in the
past.

RST

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May 25, 1942.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

The enclosed draft of a letter
to Chairman Clarke of The Commission

of Fine Arts has been prepared for
your signature in accordance with
your memorandum of May 20th.

The papers forwarded with your
memorandum are herewith returned.

(Signed) 1. Morgenthan, is.

n.m.c.
S.S.Agent 3:40gm
5/26/42
Copiesto Thompson

WNT: Of

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My dear Mr. Chairmans

The copy of your letter of May 16th, which was

forwarded to the White House by Secretary Caemmerer,
addressed to the heads of departments and independent

establishments, on the subject of medals and insignia,
has come to my attention.

It is desirable that each such medal and insignia
be designed and prepared, as you indicate, in a manner

worthy of the service which it commemorates. It is
also particularly desirable in these war days, with

the great increase in the number of these medals and

insignia, that they reflect the best possible design

and workmanship, and I am sure your suggestions to the
heads of departments and establishments will be helpful

in this direction.

Sincerely yours,

Honorable Oilmore D. Clarke,
Chairman, The Commission

of Fine Arts,
Interior Department Building,

Washington, D. C.

WNT: of

5/25/42

347
COPY

THE COMMISSION OF FINE ARTS

Interior Department Building
Washington

May 18, 1942.

My dear Mr. Forsters
Chairman Clarke has asked me to send to you for

your information the attached copy of a letter that has
been sent to heads of departments and independent

establishments of the Government on the subject of medals
and insignia.

It appears that numerous medals are

contemplated for the present War, and the Commission of

Fine Arts advises that they should be works of art.
Sincerely yours,
/8/ H. P. CAEMMERER

Secretary

Hon. Rudolph Forster,
The White House,

Washington, D.C.

348
COPY

The Commission of Fine Arts
Washington

May 18, 1942.

My dear Mr. Secretarys

The Commission of Fine Arts have noted that, since the
attack on Pearl Harbor, several Bills have been introduced in
Congress to authorize the presentation of medals, It is also
noted that several Departments and independent establishments
of the Government have undertaken to have designs prepared
for models.

This Commission respectfully call attention to the fact
that by Executive Order, dated July 28, 1921, the President of
the United States directs that "essential matters relating to the
design of medals, insignia, and soins produced by the executive
departments shall be submitted to the Commission of Fine Arts
for advice as to the morite of such designs before the executive
officer having charge of the same shall approve thereof."
It is the practice of some bureaus of the Government to
have designs for medals prepared in their own offices, and then
arrange for the production of the modal by having commercial
medal manufacturing companies make models and produce the medal.

The Commission of Fine Arts contend that this is not conducive

to good results. Furthermore, it seems unfair to the recipients,
who, if entitled to medals, should be given ones that they would
be proud to wear.

We have in the United States many able sculptors who also
qualify as medallists, whose services we believe should be
called upon to make designs and models for medale, so as to give
assurance that each medal may be a work of art and worthy of
the service which it commerciales.
The Commission will be pleased to cooperate with you

in this matter. For the Commission of Fine Artel
Sincerely yours,
Hon. Jesse H. Jones,
Secretary of Commerce,
Washington, D. C.

Gilmore D. Clarke,
Chairman.

348
COPY

The Commission of Fine Arts
Washington

May 18, 1942.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

The Commission of Fine Arts have noted that, since the
attack on Pearl Harbor, several Bills have been introduced in

Congress to authorize the presentation of medals. It is also
noted that several Departments and independent establishments
of the Government have undertaken to have designs prepared
for models.

This Commission respectfully call attention to the fact
that by Executive Order, dated July 28, 1921, the President of
the United States directs that "essential matters relating to the
design of medals, insignia, and ooine produced by the executive
departments shall be submitted to the Commission of Fine Arts
for advice as to the morite of such designs before the executive
officer having charge of the same shall approve thereof."
It is the practice of some bureaus of the Government to
have designs for medals prepared in their own offices, and then
arrange for the production of the medal by having commercial
medal manufacturing companies make models and produce the medal.

The Commission of Fine Arts contend that this is not conducive

to good results. Furthermore, it seems unfair to the recipients,
who, if entitled to medals, should be given ones that they would
be proud to wear.

We have in the United States many able sculpters who also
qualify as medallists, whose services we believe should be
called upon to make designs and models for medals, so as to give
assurance that each medal may be a work of art and worthy of
the service which it commemorates.
The Commission will be pleased to cooperate with you

in this matter. For the Commission of Fine Artst
Sincerely yours,
Hon. Jesse H. Jones,
Secretary of Commerce,
Washington, D. C.

Gilmore D. Clarke,
Chairman.

WAR PRODUCTION BOARD

Photostity

WASHINGTON, D.C.

5/35/42-

OFFICE OF

DONALD M. NELSON

May 25, 1942

CHAIRMAN

My dear Secretary Morgenthau:

I was very much interested in your letter of May 7
in
connection with the possibility of obtaining new silver
legislation.
May we discuss this at the same time we talk to the
Committee about the use of silver in the butadiene plants?
Sincerely yours,

Phililean
Donald M. Nelson

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

350

Copy for Secretamyle Division ROOM 470,
Treasury:

MAY 25 1942

Dear Mr. Wait:

It is with regret that I learn of
your voluntary retirement after more
than thirty-six years of Government
service, twenty-five of which were
spent in rendering able and devoted
service in Customs work.

I want to take this opportunity,
therefore, to congratulate you on your
splendid career in the Government service: to express my deep and sincere

regret that you have left our official
family: and to wish your continued good
health, prosperity and contentment in
the years to come.
Sincerely,
(Signed) N. Morgenthau. Ja.

Secretary of the Treasury.
Mr. Bernard Vait,
3260 Riviera Drive,
Coral Gables, Florida.
Personnel office)

n.m. c.
Hompsonioffire

351
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

May 25, 1942

Secretary Morgenthau

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

You may be interested in the attached story of
inhuman treatment of our sailors as broadcast by
a Japanese Rear Admiral in an official propaganda
talk to North America. This talk was picked up and
reported by the Federal Communications Commission.
3. 1c.

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Official Japanese Broadcast to America and Orient, May 21:

U.S. sailors from the sunken cruiser Houston are often
severely beaten with heavy ropes by their Japanese captors
when they lag in their work because of the hot weather of
Celebes Island, Netherlands East Indies, where they are
imprisoned, Rear Admiral Toshio Matsunaga frankly admits
in a talk to students broadcast (May 21, 1:00 a.m. EWT)
by the Tokyo radio in Japanese to the people of Japan.

Trip Described--The Admiral describes a tour of inspection
which he made of Japanese-occupied countries, particularly
the Netherlands East Indies and the Philippines. While
the exact location of the prisoners from the Houston is
not revealed, the text of his broadcast strongly indicates
that they are employed repairing shell-ravaged airfields
at or near Macassar on the Dutch Indies island of Celebes.
U. S. Prisoners--Tokyo quotes the Admiral: "What kind of
work are the American prisoners from the Houston engaged

in in this sector? They are engaged in the work of filling
the holes in the airfields. They are engaged in comparatively easy jobs.

'Lazy' Ones Beaten- "There are many who are suffering from
hunger because they are not used to the Japanese type of
food and there are some who get very lazy because of the

extreme heat. Those who do not do their part are beaten
by the Japanese guards who are placed on watch in a ratio
of about 1 guard for 100 prisoners. However, those who
are hard to handle are severely beaten with a rope which

is similar to the rope used by sailors. Because of the

pain the lazy American prisoners continue the work with
painful expressions on their faces."
"

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THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR
WASHINGTON

MAY 25 1942

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I enclose for the information and records of your Department a letter with enclosures, dated February 19, which I have
received from the United States High Commissioner to the Philippine Islands. This communication which was deposited in the
mail by Mr. Sayre prior to his departure from the Philippines
has only recently been received in this Department.

Practically all of the factual information contained in this
correspondence which has to do with the reported collaboration of
certain prominent officials of the Philippine Government with the
Japanese has been previously reported to Washington by radio.

It will be noted that the High Commissioner in the third paragraph of his covering letter comments on the attitude of President
Quezon and seems to imply that he is of the opinion that President
Quezon should have issued a public repudiation of the members of
his Cabinet who were reported to have been collaborating with the
Japanese. From my own limited knowledge of this situation it would
appear to me that President Quezon was correct in being very guarded
on anything which he might say on this subject. In the first place,

it should be noted that practically all of the information which is
available as to the extent of collaboration of the Filipinos with
the Japanese comes from Japanese sources.

To condemn them publicly might be playing directly into the
hands of the Japanese who would then be in a position to represent
to these men that they had burned their bridges behind them, and that
they must necessarily stand or fall with the Japanese. They may or
may not be engaged in treasonable activities, but even if they are

there is nothing that we can do about it at the present time and
nothing is to be gained by name calling. Until such time as we

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are again in position to know all the facts as to what is going
on in the Philippines and are able to reward loyalty and punish
treason, I believe it to be sound public policy to refrain from
ex parte judgment of men who are faced with the harsh facts of
enemy occupation and control.

Sincerely yours,

Secretary of the Interior.

Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

Enclosure 2779039.

2

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are again in position to know all the facts as to what is going
on in the Philippines and are able to reward loyalty and punish
treason, I believe it to be sound public policy to refrain from
ex parte judgment of men who are faced with the harsh facts of
enemy occupation and control.
Sincerely yours,

Secretary of the Interior.

Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

Enclosure 2779039.

2

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Fort Mills, Philippines
February 19, 1942.
The Honorable

The Secretary of the Interior,
Washington, D. C.

Sir:

The extent and character of the collaboration of
prominent officials of the Commonwealth Government with
those of the Japanese expeditionary forces in Manila has

caused great concern. Factual brief reports were fur-

nished you in my telegrams through the Secretary of State
Nos. 44 and 45, both dated February 12th. These messages

were necessarily brief and I am taking this opportunity
of forwarding copies of the documents cited in the telegrans and other pertinent material.
The part played by Mr. Jorge B. Vargas, Secretary
to the President of the Commonwealth and a member of his
Cabinet, has cuased considerable comment. When the Com-

manding General removed the heads of the civil government from Manila, President Queson appointed Mr. Vargas
to the newly created position of "Mayor of Greater Manila".
The expressed purpose of the appointment was to preserve

order in the City of Manila during the interval between
the removal of the chief civil officers and the arrival

of Japanese forces, the period December 24th to January
1st. On the arrival of the Japanese Mr. Vargas appears
not to have resigned his office, but to have remained as
Mayor under an informal understanding with the Japanese
officials until the organising under Japanese auspices
of a "Council of State" and "Executive Commission".
The attitude of President Queson is non-committal.

He has issued no repudiation. His official position is
expressed in his Proclamation of January 29th, a copy of
which is enclosed.

One of the dangers arising from such collaboration

is its possible effect on Filipino troops in the field.

A graphic illustration is found in the distribution among
the

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-2- the troops of the enclosed leaflet "To Our Sons and
Brothers in Bataan" over the name of Mr. Vargas, although Mr. Vargas probably had nothing to do with it.

This leaflet is a plea to the troops to lay down their
arms.

An incidence of the spread of cooperation is
found in the radio broadcast on February 13th by Hadj
Gulamul Rasul, one of the more influential of the Moros
of Jolo. He broadcast from Manila advising his people
to go along with the Japanese. The address was given
in the Sulu language and it was repeated in English.
I shall appreciate your having copies made of
this letter and its enclosures and sending them to the
Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury and
the heads of other interested Departments.
Sincerely yours,
(Sgd.) Francis B. Sayre.
Enclosures:

1. Letter Jan. 23, 1942, Jorge B. Vargas and others
to the Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japa-

nese Forces in the Philippines relative to Philippine Council of State under Japanese auspices.

2. Article from The (Manila) Tribune Jan. 28, 1942
relative to Philippine Executive Commission under
Japanese auspices.

3. Copy of Proclamation of President Queson Jan. 29,
1942, relative Philippine Executive Commission
under Japanese auspices.

4. Transcript of radio broadcast by Jorge B. Vargas
Jan. 31, 1942, over Station KZRH, Manila, relative Executive Commission and cooperation with

Japanese Government.

5. Copy of printed leaflet distributed by Japanese

in Bataan, entitled "To Our Sons and Brothers
in Bataan", over printed name and title of Jorge
B. Vargas.

6. Copy of "Executive Order No. 1" by the Chairman
of the Executive Commission. Summary of Organi-

sations of the Central Administration Organs and
Judicial Courts from The (Manila) Sunday News
February 1, 1942.

7. Confirmation copies of my radiograms Nos. 44 and
45 (paraphrase of confidential code), both
Feb. 12, 1942.

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(Copied from THE TRIBUNE, Manila, January 25, 1942)

Manila, Philippines
January 23, 1942.
Excellency:

In response to the message of Your Excellency
as Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Forces,
on the 8th of January, 1942, through Hon. Jorge B.
Vargas, we have duly taken note of the contents there-

of and respectfully express our gratitude for Your
Excellency's words of solicitude over the welfare of
our people.

We beg to inform Your Excellency that, in compliance with your advice, and having in mind the
great ideals, the freedom and the happiness of our

country, we are ready to obey to the best of our ability and within the means at our disposal the orders

issued by the Imperial Japanese Forces for the maintenance of peace and order and the promotion of the wellbeing
of our people under the Japanese Military Administration.
Consequently, we have constituted ourselves into a provisional Philippine Council of State and we are immediate-

ly proceeding to draft our Articles of Organization in
line with Your Excellency's advice.

Availing ourselves of this opportunity, we renew
to Your Excellency the assurance of our highest consi-

deration.

JORGE B. VARGAS
JOSE YULO

QUINTIN PAREDES

JOSE P. LAUREL
BENIGNO S. AQUINO
TEOFILO SISON
RAFAEL ALUNAN

His Excellency, the Commander-in-Chief
of the Imperial Japanese Forces

in the Philippines

(over)

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-2CLARO M. RECTO
JORGE BOCOBO

LEON G. GUINTO
JOSE FABELLA*
EULOGIO RODRIGUEZ
SOTERO BALUYUT

SERAFIN MARABUT

EMILIO AGUINALDO
VICENTE MADRIGAL
RAMON J. FERNANDEZ

ANTONIO DK LAS ALAB

ELPIDIO QUIRINO
JOSE ZULUETA
DOMINADOR TAN

FRANCISCO LAVIDES
RAMON AVANCENA

MIGUEL UNSON
ALEJANDRO ROCES
PEDRO SABIDO
ALFONSO MENDOZA*
MELECIO ARRANZ

PEDRO C. HERNAEZ
JOSE OZAMIZ
JOSE VELOSO*
RICARDO NAVARRO
PROBPERO SANIDAD*
EUGENIO PEREZ

Note: All signed over typed names except those indicated by
asterisk which were unsigned.

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- -3 (Copied from THE TRIBUNE, Manila, January 25, 1942)

At the residence of Speaker Jose A. Tulo on
Penafrancia last Friday morning, 30 prominent Filipino
officials and private citisens, signed the document
above constituting themselves a provisional Philippine
Council of State. The signing of the document was
preceded by preliminary meetings of an exploratory
nature. In this document, addressed to the commanderin-chief of Japanese Expeditionary Forces, they pledged
to obey the orders of the Imperial Japanese Forces in
the interest of the maintenance of peace and order
and the promotion of the well-being of the people in
the Occupied Territory. Four of 34 prominent Filipinos
failed for various reasons to sign this document. They
were Jose Fabella, Alfonso Mendosa, Jose Veloso and
Prospero Sanidad. It was this document which was pre-

sented to the representative of the commander-in-chief
in the ceremony held last Friday afternoon at military
headquarters. The Council of State formed the basis
of the civil administration of the Occupied Territory
and acts as an advisory to the Executive Commission.
Jorge B. Vargas was appointed chairman of the Executive
Commission by the commander-in-chief.

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(Copied from THE TRIBUNE, Manila, January 28, 1942)

COMMISSION DISCUSSES
ORGANIZATION PLANS
APPROVAL

OF MILITARY
IS SOUGHT

Services of Old
Employes May Be
Retained

The executive commission of the civil adminis-

tration established in the occupied territory held
its first meeting at Malacanan yesterday afternoon
to discuss plans for the organisation of the new
administrative organs under Order No. 1 of the commander-in-chief of the Japanese Expeditionary Forces.
The commission was reported to have reached an

agreement on the general framework of the new government. Chairman Jorge B. Vargas, who presided over
the meeting, will present the plan to the commander-

in-chief for approval.

It was understood that efforts will be made
to retain as many government employees in the service
as possible, although substantial reduction may be

made in salaries of officials in the higher brackets.
After the meeting yesterday, Chairman Vargas
made an announcement asking the heads of the bureaus

and offices existing prior to the Japanese occupation
to report to the commissioners having jurisdiction

over their former activities.

The commissioners may be reached in the following
places:

Commissioner of Interior Benigno S. Aquino, at

his residence or at the office of the former department

of the interior.

Commissioner of Finance Antonio de las Alas, at

his residence or at the office of the former department
of finance.
Commissioner of Justice Jose P. Laurel, at his
residence.

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-Commissioner of Agriculture and Commerce

Rafael R. Aluman, at his residence.
Commissioner of Education, Health and

Public Welfare Claro M. Recto, at his residence
or law office.
Commissioner of Public Works and Communi-

cations Quintin Paredes, at his residence or law
office.
At the meeting yesterday afternoon, all the
members of the commission were present. Chairman

Vargas also invited Teofilo Sison, auditor general
and director of the budget, and Serafin Marabut,
executive secretary to the commission, to attend
the meeting.

The members of the executive commission, who

were appointed by the high command the previous day,

assumed their office yesterday morning. They started

the preparation of the lists of their respective

offices and bureaus.

Commissioner of the Interior Benigno S. Aquino

conferred with the officials of the department of the
interior yesterday. He took up the question of personnel of the department.

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Proclamation Released by President Queson on
January 29, 1942.

-

The determination of the Filipino people to continue

fighting side by side with the United States until victory
is won has in no way been weakened by the temporary reverses

suffered by our arms. We are convinced that our sacrifices

will be crowned with victory in the end and in that conviction
we shall continue to resist the enemy with all our might.
Japanese military forces are occupying sections of the Philip-

pines comprising only one third of our territory. In the remaining areas constitutional government is still in operation
under my authority. I have no direct information concerning
the veractiy of the news broadcast from Tokyo that a commission composed of some well known Filipinos has been recently

organized in Manila to take charge of certain functions of
civil government. The organisation of such a commission,

if true, can have no political significance not only because
it is charged merely with purely administrative functions but
also because the acquiescence by its members to serve in the

commission was evidently for the purpose of safeguarding the

welfare of the civilian population and can, in no way, reflect
the sentiments of the Filipino towards the enemy. Such sentiments are still those I have repeatedly expressed in the past:
Loyalty to America and resolute resistance against the invasion

of our territory and liberties.

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(ADDRESS MADE BY JORGE B. VARGAS OVER STATION KZRH, MANILA,
IN HIS CAPACITY AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PHILIPPINE EXECUTIVE
COMMISSION CREATED BY THE JAPANESE FORCES OF OCCUPATION

IN THE PHILIPPINES, JANUARY 31, 1942, AT 4:30 PM.)

Fellow countrymen and friends of the radio audience:
Because of circumstances beyond our control, the Philippines found herself involved in the war between Japan and the

United States. As a result of this war, most of the Philip-

pines has been placed under the military administration of
the Imperial Japanese Forces. In dealing with the occupied
territory, however, the high command of the Imperial Japanese
Forces has expressed a deep desire to follow a benign and
liberal policy predicated on the willingness of the people
to cooperate with the military administration in the reestablighment of peace and order, and to that end has set up a
National Civil Administration intended, among other things,

to temper the rigors of martial law. The fact that the high

command has seen it fit that the civil government be run by
Filipinos under the control of the Imperial Japanese Army,
should be a cause for gratification on the part of our people.
These Filipinos have accepted this responsibility in the con-

viction that they will serve the best interests of their countrymen.

In my capacity as Chairman of the Executive Commission, I

appeal to the people of the Philippines to return to their re-

spective homes and resume their normal life to the end that
law and order may be restored and so that they may be able to
embark on the work of reconstruction and engage once more in
productive enterprises.
The maintenance of law and order is a condition precedent
to the attainment of normalcy because without it there would
be anarchy and chaos. Our crops have to be harvested, our
roads and bridges reconstructed, and our lines of communications restored our gainful occupations have to be resumed and
our industry rehabilitated. This we cannot accomplish under
a reign of lawlessness and unless we cooperate fully with the
Japanese Military Administration. And the sooner we salvage

what is left of our possessions, the less suffering there will

be in the end, and we will be that much nearer to the recovery
of our economic well-being and security.
We cannot escape the inexorable fact that the fortunes
of war have placed those of us in the occupied territories
outside the protection of the United States and at the mercy

of the Japanese military. We must have trust in the justice
and fairness of the Japanese people. The illustrious Premier
General Tojo of Japan, in a special pronouncement promised
us

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-2 us independence with honor. It is imperative, therefore, that

we should refrain from committing acts which are detrimental

or inimical to the interests of the Imperial Japanese Forces.
Our people have never abandoned our ideals of freedom
and independence which have welded us into one nation. Under

the Japanese Military Administration, I an sure that united in

a common cause and with the indomi table will which our people
have shown on many an occasion, we shall be able to restore
peace and tranquillity, rebuild our homes made desolate by the
ravages of war, and once more bring peace to our country.

With the aid of Divine Providence, I venture to hope
that we shall be able ultimately to work out the realisation
of our national destiny.

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TO OUR SONS AND BROTHERS

IN BATAAN

On behalf of the Filipino people, and as the Chairman of
a Provisional Philippine Council of State, I urge you to lay
down your arms immediately and abandon cooperation with the
American Army.

The present war was forced upon Japan by the American

Imperialists headed by President Roosevelt who, under the

hypoeritical claim that they are fighting for democracy, wish
to rule and dominate the whole world. America is now master
of the Western Hemisphere which is one half of the world and
the British Empire which occupies one forth of the area of

the earth is now vitually a colony of the United States.
Therefore, America controls three fourths of the world today.
And yet, she still craves for the remaining fourth which is
the Orient, because her gredd for power is insatiable.
Japan will never consent to American domination of the
Orient. Once more, she has taken up arms to stem the tide of
Occidental Imperialism so that Asia may be preserved for Asia-

tics and the Philippines for the Filipinos. Furthermore,

Premier Tojo of Japan has solemnly promised at the 79th ses-

sion, of the Imperial Diet held on January 21st, 1942, in
which he said in part "Japan will gladly grant the Philippines
its independence so long as it cooperates and recognises
Japan's program of establishing a Greater East Asia Co-pros-

perity Sphere." Are you going to be traitors to the cause

of the Oriental Races? Remember that never in the history
of mankind has the white people fought for the colored race.
Even now the American command always place you in the van-

guard while American soldiers stay behind.
Brothers-in-arms Japan has come to help us realise
our ideals and aspirations and establish an economic, oultural and spiritual confederacy of Oriental nations known
at the Great East Asia Co-prosperity sphere. Let us shalle

off the yoke of white domination forever, and find a dignified place for us among this concert of Oriental nations.
JORGE B. VARGAS

Chairman of the Executive Commissioner,

Provisional Philippine Council of State.

Copy of leaflet

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(The following on back side of leaflet)

(Three Japanese characters)
SURRENDER CARD

Any Filipino or American soldier and their
friends will received special consideration by
presenting this card to the Imperial Japanese Forces.

(Japanese characters)

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From The (Manila) Sunday News, Febr. 1, 1942.
EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 1

By the Chairman of the Executive Commission
Summary of Organisations of the Central
Administration Organs and Judicial
Courts

In accordance with Administrative Order No. 1 of the
Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Forces in the

Philippines dated January 30, 1942, and pursuant to the authority conferred upon me as Head of the Central Administrative Organization by Order No. 1 of the said Commander-in-Chief of
the Imperial Japanese Forces, it is hereby ordered that ARTICLE I

The Central Administrative Organis and Judicial Courts
are hereby reconstituted and shall function in accordance
with the following summary of organisation:

1. Central Administrative Organs
Chairman of the Executive Commission

Budget and Auditing Office
Bureau of Civil Service
All Examining Boards

Office of Executive Secretary to the Commission
(Official Gasette)
Bureau of Purchase and Supply

Bureau of Printing

Government-owned or Controlled Corporations

Department of the Interior

Bureau of Local Governments

(Provincial, City Municipal and Specially
Organised Local Governments including
Greater Manila)

Bureau of Constabulary and Police

Bureau of Religious Affairs
Bureau of the Census and Statistics
Department of Finance

Bureau of the Treasury
Bureau of Customs and Internal Revenue
Bureau of Financing

(Including Banking, Insurance, etc.)

Government Service Insurance System

Philippine Chafity Sweepstakes

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- -2Department of Justice
Bureau of Justice
Bureau of Prisons
Court of Appeals

Courts of First Instance
Provincial and City Fiscals and Sheriffs
Justice of the Peace Courts and Municipal Courts

Code Committee

Department of Agriculture and Commerce

Bureau of Agricultural Administration
(Including National Land Settlement and
Rural Progress Administration)
Bureau of Plant and Animal Industry
Bureau of Lands

Bureau of Forestry and Fishery

Bureau of Science
Bureau of Commerce and Industries
Bureau of Mines
Weather Bureau

Department of Education, Health, and Public Welfare
Bureau of Public Instruction
Bureau of Private Education
Bureau of Physical Education
Bureau of Health
(Including Quarantine Service)
Bureau of Public Welfare
(Including matters pertaining to Labor)

University of the Philippines
National Library
Institute of National Language
Philippine General Hospital

Department of Public Works and Communications
Bureau of Public Works
Bureau of Communications

Bureau of Transportation

Bureau of Public Utilities
Metropolitan Waterworks Office
Superior Court

2.

Supreme Court

ARTICLE II

The specific duties, functions and activities to be per-

formed by the administrative departments, bureaus and offices
as herein reconstituted, will be determined and defined in
subsequent executive orders.

Done in the City of Greater Manila, Philippines, this 30th
day of January, 1942.

(Sgd.) JORGE B. VARGAS

Chairman, Executive Commission

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Personnel Appointments under the Japanese-

controlled Philippine Civil Government

1. From the (Manila) Sunday Tribune, Feb. 8, 1942:
Leon Guinto, Mayor of Greater Manila.
Jorge B. Vargas, Chairman of the Executive Commission
Serafin Marabut, Secretary of the Executive Commission

Hilario Lara, Director of Public Welfare
Lt. Procopio Beltran, Chief of Police, San Juan
Lt. Cirilo Abaya, Chief of Police, Mandaluyong
Lt. Nicolas Guiwa, Chief of Police, Queson City
Lt. Francisco Polotan, Chief of Police, Pasay

Lt. Pioquinto Bergado, Chief of Police, Caloocan
Lt. Lorenso Ballanka, Chief of Police, San Pedro Makati
Lt. Claro Weber, Chief of Police, Paranaque
Juan Nolasco, Assistant Mayor of Greater Manila
Benigno S. Aquino, Commissioner of The Interior
Jose Yulo, Chief Justice of Supreme Court
Ricardo Paras, Chief Justice of Supreme Court
Jorge C. Bocobo, Chief Justice of Supreme Court
Manuel M. de Hasanas, Clerk of Court
Emilio Abello, Assistant Commissioner of Justice
Jose P. Laurel, Commissioner of Justice
Santiago Estrada, Governor of Pangasinan

conferring with officials of Dept. of Justice

Mariano C. Icasiano, City Health Officer

Jose Figueras, Unemployment Section, City Hall
Celedonio Salvador, Director of Private Education
Gabriel Manalac, Direct of Education
Eusebio Aguilar, Director of Health

2. From The (Manila) Tribune, Feb. 15, 1942:
Pio Duran, Member of Council of State

"Duran's appointment increases the membership

of the Gouncil to 35."

Justiniano Montano, recommended to be Mayor of

Cavite, vice Col. Arsenio Natividad; the
latter having been called by the Interior
Department to help General Jose de los
Reyes in reorganising the Constabulary and
to act as liaison officer between Commissioner
Benigno Aquino and General de los Reyes.

Jose Garrido, Director, Bureau of Transportation.

Cornelio Balonaceda, Director, Bureau of Commerce.
3.

Reported, unconfirmed:

Camilo Osias, Assistant Commissioner of Public Welfare.

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Fort Mills, Philippines
February 12, 1942.
TELEGRAM SENT

CODE: CONFIDENTIAL
SECSTATE
WASHINGTON

44, February 12, 11 p.m.

We are reporting in the immediately following telegram
(No. 45) with reference to statements regarding the regime
which has reportedly been set up in Manila by the Japanese.

It is suggested that all possible steps be taken to
assure blocking of any efforts on the part of the so-called
"Council of State" or "Executive Commission" which may be

made with the object of obtaining exchange either directly

or indirectly through third countries. It is possible that
the Treasurer of the Philippines may attempt to serve under
the direction of the Commissioner of Finance and it would
appear prudent to be on guard against any representation
of either body as part of the unblocked Commonwealth Government.

A fuller report is to be sent forward by mail as
opportunity offers. Additional details can, of course, be
supplied by telegraph if desired.
SAYRE

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

CONFIDENTIAL

DATE May 25, 1942
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Haas

Subject:

The Business Situation,

Week ending May 23, 1942
Summary

(1) Industrial output rose more than seasonally in April,
carrying the FRB adjusted index of industrial production to a
record high at 174. This compares with 172 in the previous
month, and with 166 last November just before our entry into
the war. The April rise was featured by a further expansion
in production of machinery, armament, and chemicals, as well
as a sharp contra-seasonal gain in soft coal output.
(2) Stock market activity recently has been characterized
by increasing strength in "peace" stocks, while "war" stocks
have continued to decline. Taxation factors undoubtedly have
contributed importantly to this divergence, but indications
appeared last week that some shifts in market positions were
being based on a more optimistic appraisal of war prospects.

(3) The recent lag in retail sales, which was attributed
in part to the imminence of retail price ceilings, has apparently continued since the ceilings went into effect last
Monday. The WPB is expected to take steps shortly to regulate
wholesaler's and retailer's inventories, which are believed
to be unduly high in many instances. Department store stocks
in March, for example, were 45 percent above year-earlier

levels (in dollar value).

(4) The general price level receded very slightly during
the first week in which wholesale prices were subject to the

general maximum price regulation. During the week mentioned
(ended May 16) the BLS all-commodity index declined 0.1 point
to 98.5. The BLS has estimated that the general maximum price

regulation extended control to 77 percent of the commodities
in the index, as compared with 52 percent under formal or informal control just before the issuance of the price regulation.

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Industrial output at new high
Industrial output rose more than seasonally in April,
and the FRB adjusted index of industrial production consequently
advanced to a new record high of 174 from 172 in the previous
month. (See Chart 1.) On an unadjusted basis the index rose
4 points, making the sharpest month-to-month gain since our
entry into the war.
The principal factors in the rise were further expansion
to new highs in the production of machinery, transportation
equipment (including aircraft and shipbuilding), and chemicals,
and a sharp contra-seasonal increase in soft coal output. Tending to partially offset these gains were declines in the output
of crude petroleum and gasoline, as well as slackened deliveries
of rayon, and lower production of paperboard and various other
products.

Peace stocks lead market rise
Despite the steady rise of armament production, many leading "war" stocks have recently been declining to new lows for
the year, while increasing interest has been shown in so-called
"peace" stocks. This divergent trend was brought into sharper
focus last Thursday, when "peace" stocks led a rise in the New
York market and trading volume expanded to nearly 560,000

shares, or the largest total since March 6.
At the close of the trading session Thursday, the Dow-

Jones average of industrial stocks stood about 7 percent above
the April 28 low, and was at a new high on the slow recovery
which has been under way since that time. This rise has
occurred despite a number of important dividend reductions.
Among others, du Pont, Johns-Manville, and National Biscuit
announced dividend cuts last week. On the other hand, declaration of the regular dividend by the American Telephone
and Telegraph Company was a stimulating influence.
Tax factors depress war stocks
The decline of many leading "war" stocks to new lows
for the year has undoubtedly been due in part to prospective
heavier tax burdens, which will tend to affect these industries more than the so-called "peace" industries. However,
a number of recent market developments have indicated that
a more optimistic attitude on war prospects was also making

itself felt in the markets. Thus Thursday's stock market

rise was accompanied by gains in Danish bonds and in bonds

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of the city of Warsaw. Moreover, second grade rail bonds,
which have been benefiting from war conditions, declined
noticeably. Commodity price declines were also attributed
in part to talk of a shorter war than had been expected some
time ago.

Last week's decline in our price index of 20 "war"
stocks carried it to a new low on the extended decline from
the 1942 high reached at the beginning of the year. On the
other hand, the index of 20 "peace" stocks has been rising
since late in April, with the result that the market's recent appraisal of the two groups of stocks has placed the
"war" stocks in the poorest relative position since we entered
the war. (See Chart 2.)
Stock prices higher in London

Industrial stock prices in London have been rising

gradually since the latter part of March, thus anticipating

by more than a month the slightly firmer tendencies recently
in evidence in the New York market. (See Chart 3.) By the
end of last week, industrial stock prices at London stood at
the highest levels since February 11, whereas industrial
stock prices in New York were 7 percent below the level prevailing on the date mentioned. Business in the London market
recently is reported to have been slow, with trading characterized by a firm, confident undertone.
Retail sales lag
Department store sales in the week ended May 16, the

last week before the retail price ceilings went into effect,
continued to lag and ran only 5 percent above year-earlier
levels. (See Chart 4.) This compares with a 6 percent gain
over year-earlier levels in the previous week, and a cumulative gain of 19 percent for the year to date.
The marked narrowing of the sales gain over 1941 levels

in recent weeks has been ascribed in part to the belief that
consumers were deferring purchases until after the effective
date of the retail price ceilings. However, preliminary data
fail to reveal any rush to buy now that the price ceilings
are in effect, perhaps in part because fears of rising prices
have been calmed by the price order.

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374

Thus Dun and Bradstreet's weekly survey of retail trade

indicates that, for the country as a whole, retail trade last
week actually fell slightly below year-earlier levels even
on a dollar basis. In view of the substantial rise in prices

during the past year, such a showing would indicate a sizeable cut in the physical volume of goods sold. However, insufficient time has elapsed to accurately appraise the effects
of the price order on consumer buying.
Wholesale and retail inventory control expected
Press reports last week indicated that the WPB soon is
expected to issue orders to limit the amount of purchases and
inventories of large wholesalers and retailers. It is contended that excessive inventories have been built up, and
that some retailers' stocks are much above normal requirements,
while others are unable to meet the needs of their communities.
Stocks held by department stores bear out the contention

that retail inventories are abnormally high. After remaining
fairly constant in 1939 and 1940, department store stocks rose
sharply in 1941, particularly in the latter half of the year.
A further sharp rise occurred in the first quarter of 1942,
so that by March department store stocks were 45 percent
above year-earlier levels. In New York City, department store
inventories in April were 77 percent above the corresponding

month in 1941.

This heavy accumulation of merchandise inventories has
undoubtedly softened the immediate impact of curtailments in

civilian goods production. It has thus tended for the time
being deceptively to minimize the difficulties of stabilizing
retail prices. The real difficulties will be unmasked when
present retail stocks are used up, which will doubtless occur
at a time when consumer incomes will be running substantially
above current incomes.

Sales retarded by general price order

There are indications that in the first week of applica-

tion of the general maximum price regulation to both wholesale and retail prices, a decline occurred in wholesale as

well as in retail trade. The decline in wholesale trade
undoubtedly reflected delays in adjustments, continued uncertainties over revisions, and deadlocks over the allocation

of narrowed margins among the various distribution levels.
The drawing down of inventories was also a factor, since apprehension over higher prices was largely removed as a buying
incentive.

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375

Although some difficulties have been remedied, other

problems remain to be solved. An official of a large department store pointed out in a recent press report that, as a
result of having kept prices below replacement costs for
months, the retail industry now finds itself with a lag of
about $5 billion per year frozen against the retailers.
Stating that 90 percent of such merchants do not have stocks
to last for 60 days, he contended that when these are depleted and costs of acquiring new stocks are found too high,

retailers may fail while awaiting OPA relief. Possible savings through various economies, he said, would be more than
offset by loss in volume, with a 15 percent reduction in

volume forecast for 1942, and a 25 percent reduction for 1943.
In the food industry, manufacturers' sales were reported

at a standstill. The selection of March prices as a ceiling
base apparently caught many distributors with price lists
reflecting 1941 costs. According to trade reports, such

prices in some cases were lower than manufacturers' prices as

of the same month. This has not only tended to stop further

purchases from manufacturers, but in some cases has led to
demands by distributors that manufacturers take back shipments

made at March list prices, since distributors' costs on such
goods exceeded their permissible resale prices.
OPA price rulings

Several far-reaching rulings were issued last week by the
OPA. Sales on Army and Navy contracts for products covered
by the general maximum price regulations were exempted from

the order until July 1, for the stated purpose of bringing
such contracts and purchases into conformity with the regulation. To alleviate difficulties arising from the requirements

of competitive bidding, by July 1 the OPA may set definite
price schedules on goods needed by the Army and Navy. Textile
manufacturers, especially those with large contracts for
woolen goods awarded in April at prices which took account of
wage increases, are reported to be faced with substantial
losses. Armaments, and six allied classes of goods, were
permanently exempted from the provisions of the regulation,
to prevent any interference with essential war production.
The first "roll-back" action was taken by the OPA last
week to make it possible for tanners to operate under the
maximum price set for sheepskin leather, and to avert price
advances for shoes and other consumer goods made from such
leather. The measure consisted of ordering prices for
pickled sheepskins back to October levels.

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376

Wholesale prices little changed under general
price order
The BLS all-commodity index of wholesale prices receded

only 0.1 point in the week ended May 16, the first week during
which wholesale prices were subject to the general maximum

price regulation. (See Chart 5.) At 98.5 percent of its 1926
average, the index was more than 1 percent above its highest
level during March 1942, the base period stipulated in the
regulation.

This rise since March, in part, reflects higher prices
for certain products not subject to price ceilings. It may
indicate also that the maximum prices of some products in
March were not fully reflected in the weekly index at that
time. It is possible also that prices of some commodities,
as reported during the week, failed to show the full adjustments which are required.

The BLS has estimated that as of April 28, just before
issuance of the general regulation, more than 52 percent
(value basis) of the commodities covered by the index were
affected by formal or informal controls, and that the regulation extended control to 77 percent.
Comparison of controlled and uncontrolled
basic commodity prices

Wholesale prices of 28 basic commodities, compiled by

the BLS, are shown in Chart 6, classified into two indexes to
show separately the price trends of controlled and uncontrolled

commodities.

Since the week ended January 30 this year, when the last
of the 20 controlled commodities was placed under control, the

index for this group has declined 0.6 percent. The index

for the 8 uncontrolled commodities in the same period has
risen 5.9 percent.
Basic commodity prices recede somewhat

Basic commodity prices (see Chart 7) were weakened some-

what last week by several bearishly-interpreted developments.

Cotton prices declined to less than 20 cents, for the first
time since March, on the report of legislation allowing sale
of Government-owned commodities at sub-parity levels, and on
the statement by Secretary Hull indicating that a victory
might come earlier than had been expected. Continued prospects of record wheat supplies, coupled with inadequate
storage and transportation facilities, depressed wheat

-7-

377

prices. Barley prices were strong, but corn and flaxseed de-

clined with the wheat market. Wool prices were weakened by
talk of an early peace and by reports of a record domestic production this year.

Hog prices reached the highest levels in four weeks,
buoyed by the terms of the permanent price ceiling announced
by the OPA, which did not lower the previous maximum except for
products sold to the Department of Agriculture.

FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD INDEX OF INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION
1935-39=100

J DFMAMJJASONDJFM JJASONDJI MAM.
1939

1940

1941

1942

PERCENT

PERCENT

Seasonally Adjusted
170

170

165

165

160

160

155

155

150

150

145

145

140

140

135

135

130

130

125

125

120

120

115

115

110

110

105

105

100

100

95

-

JF M A M A ON J A SOND J F MAMJ
1939

1940

1941

95

1942

Office d the Security of the I

C-349-2

COMPARISON OF PRICE MOVEMENTS
OF 20 "WAR" STOCKS AND 20 "PEACE" STOCKS*
August 1939-100
1940

1939

1942

1941

M

o

A

s ON
PER

PER

CENT

CENT

WEEKLY - Friday Quotations
160

160

-

140

140

120

120

War' Stocks
100

100

80
80

"Peace" Stocks
60
60

40
40
PER
PER

CENT

CENT

(Ratio)

(Ratio)

200

Ratio of "War" Stocks
to "Peace" Stocks

200

APRIL 6
GERMANY

180

YUSDELAVIA -

180
fa.
FALL
SIGNATURE

-

160

Dec.

Just 22

GENERAL

SEPT. 27

-

CERMANY INVADES

Pasts

SURRENDERS

APRIL ,
Gemman

160

JAPAN

June 14

INVOICE

ATTACHS
Member

Ressta

APRIL

NITLER'S
SPEED

140

APRIL 27

NUMBER DEMAND

ATHERS
SURRENDERS

140

120
JAY 29

120

GENMANY BEGINS

Nov. 30
Russia ATTACKS

MASS
ALL MIDE
on DEITAIN

May 10

100

GERMANY ATTACKS

HOLLAND BELAIUM

FISLAND

100
Sept. INVAICES

80mm
A S o N F M A M J J A o A M J J A 1942 J J A o N
GERMANY

80

POLAND

DJ

1939

---

Office the Secretary of the Insury

1940

1941

"Stocks selected on basis of relative benefits from prolonged war VE early peace
Inderes are weighted overages of price relatives

P-225-9

Chart 3

380

INDUSTRIAL STOCK PRICES IN U.S. AND U.K.
AUGUST 1936 - 100

Weekly
JAN.

FEB.

MAR.

APR.

(AVERAGE OF DAILY)

1941
MAY

JUNE

JULY

PER

AUG.

SEPT.

OCT.

NOV.

DEC.

JAN.

1942
FEB.

MAR.

APR.

MAY

JUNE

JULY

AUG.

SEPT.
PER

CENT

CENT
100

100

95

95

90

90

85

85

U.S. 30 INDUSTRIAL
STOCKS (DOW-JONES)
80

80

75

75

70
70

65
65

60
60

U.K. 56 INDUSTRIAL
STOCKS
55
55

50

50

45

45

111

LILL
40

JAN.

FCB.

MAR.

APR.

MAY

JUNE

JULY

1941

40

1942

@

FO 156
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Division of Research and Statistics

Chart 4

381
DEPARTMENT STORE SALES
1935 - 39 - 100. UNADJUSTED
SEPT.

JULY

MAY

NOV.
PER

JAN.

CENT
PER

CENT

Weekly
260
260

240
240

220
220

200

200

180

180

160

160

140

140

120

120

41

100

100

80

80

60

60

JAN.

MAR.

MAY

JULY

SEPT.

NOV.

c 390

- of - - -

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury

COMMODITY PRICES
1926-100

PER
CENT

PER
CENT

Weekly

106

106

104

104

102

102

100

100

889 Commodities, B.L.S.
98

98

96

96

94

94

92

92

90

90

28 Basic Commodities, B.L.S.
88

88

86

86

84

OCT.

NOV

1941

-.---

DEC

JAN

FEB.

MAR

APR

MAY

JUNE

JULY

AUG

SEPT.

OCT

NOV

DEC

84

1942

Office of the Secretary of the Transary

P-196-D

WHOLESALE PRICES OF 28 BASIC COMMODITIES
Controlled and Uncontrolled Components
1942

1941

PERCENT

PERCENT
August 1939-100

195

195

190

190

185

185

8 Uncontrolled Commodities
180

180

175

175

170

170

28 Commodities

165

165

160

160

20 Controlled Commodities
155

155

150

150

145

145

140

140

NOV.

SEPT.
1941

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Budden of Research and Student

JAN.

MAR.

MAY

JULY

SEPT.

NOV.

1942

P-242

MOVEMENT OF BASIC COMMODITY PRICES
AUGUST 1939-100
PERCENT

PERCENT

PERCENT

PERCENT

Daily

Weekly Average
220

220

200

200

200

190

180

180

180

160

160

170

140

160

120

120

150

100

100

140

200

190

12 Foodstuffs

12 Foodstuffs

140

180

170

16 Row Industrial

160

Materials

16 Row Industrial

Materials

4

29

MAR

"

..

-

140
29

APR

.

,

FEB

1942

1941

..

.

JUNE AUG. OCT. DEC. FEB. APR JUNE AUG. OCT DEC.

150

-

-

29

JUNE

MAY

1942

PERCENTAGE CHANGE FOR INDIVIDUAL COMMODITIES
Dec. 6. 1941 to May 15 and May 22. 1942

Aug. 1939 to May 22.1942

Cottonesed

PERCENT

PERCENT

12 Foodstuffs

12 Foodstuffs

41.0%

+40

Hoge 121.8%
120

Tollow 118.7%
Lord

+30

Coooo 104.7X

Barley 195%

Barley IOLSX
Corn 91.1%

Lord 17.7X

Corn 164%

+20

Coffee 772X

80

Steers MBX
Cottoneeed Oil 84%

Steere 65.0%

Wheat 645X
Butter $4.3X

Follow 79%

+10

Sugar 4.2X
Butter 6.6X

40

Coffee ox

Sugar 30.0X

Cocco -ax

0

What -12%
-10
0

Aug.

May22

1939

1942

Dec.6.

May 15

May22

1941

1942

1942

PERCENT

PERCENT

16 Raw Industrial
Materials

16 Raw Industrial Materials

Flavoood BITE

+40

Cotton 115.7%
120

+30

Burlso IMMX

Print Cloth past
Cotton 143%

Zinc GREX

Pleased 443X
Whol 424

80

Load HIK

+20

Print Cloth 70X

Zine **

Hides 26.72
JESS

0% Change

+10

Rubber MAX

Tin,

Roain seer
40

Copper

Holes Silk

Load PROZ

St. Scrap dom
17.0%

Rubber:

0

Copper Nex
am NEW
Tin 6.4%
0

Aug
1939

St Scren exp
Roois -31%
-10

May22

Dec.6.

1942

1941

"Block lines indicate commodities under price cailings

May 15

1942

Burlop -

Marita
1942

Who sex

384
P-234-14

Chart 7

385
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE May 25, 1942
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Kamarck

Subject: Shipment of Planes to British Forces

1. In the week ending May 19, 1942, a total
of 66 planes of all types (59 combat planes) were
shipped to British forces.
2. The first shipment of the Northrop Vengeance,
a new pursuit plane, occurred this week with the
departure of five for Australia. The Vengeance 18
one of our most modern fighters; the prototype first
flew in 1941. This is to be compared with the P-40
whose prototype first flew in 1937.

-2

386

Table A - Shipments by Area
Week

Ending
May 19,1942

Total shipped Total shipped
since

in 1942

to date

Jan. 1, 1941

to the United Kingdom
Light and medium bombers

261

1,422

0

50

154
110
997
102

3

Heavy bombers

Naval patrol bombers
Pursuit
Army Cooperation
Trainers

o

8

0

686

o

71

24

o

o

Total to the United Kingdom

1,076

3

2,809

0 the Middle East
Light and medium bombers
Heavy bombers

Pursuit
Army Cooperation
Trainers

o

192

522

o

o

5

31
o

236

1,084

12

12

150

g

0

Total to the Middle East

1,773

448

31

0 the Canadian Forces
Light and medium bombers
Heavy bombers

205

37

2

1

1

o

Naval patrol bombers

Pursuit
Trainers

31

O

23

o

30

72

330

1,571

7

Total to the Canadian Forces

1,880

421

9

To the British Pacific Forces
Light and medium bombers

Naval patrol bombers
Pursuit

228

133

12

o

27

186

354

O

11

Trainers

105

O

o

Total to Pacific Forces
To the British Indian Forces
Pursuit

40

40

o

Total to Indian Forces
Heavy bombers

Naval patrol bombers

Pursuit
Army Cooperation
Trainers
Grand Total

2,377

623

17

160
168

51

O

o

2,547

1,178

4
2

114

8

o

1,850

338

7

66

40

40

O

Totals

Light and medium bombers

714

319

23

2,304

7,216

-3387

Table B - Shipments by Types
Week

Ending

May 19,1942

ell Airacobra

-

Boston III

@rewster"Buffalo

Cessna Crane I-A (AT-17)
T-50

onsolidated Catalina

Liberator

urtiss Kittyhawk
Tomahawk

airchild 24 R-9
lenn Martin Baltimore
Maryland

Grumman Martlet II

Lightning
Ventura I

Ventura Bomber

468

12

32

o

10

34

o

o

168

52

52

o

86

700

o

31

168
128

7

o

39

37

451

833
544

O

492

O

O

O

73

95

0

195

263

o

O

17

ockheed Hudson

since

Jan. 1, 1941

O

o

ouglas Boston I,II and III

in 1942

to date
314

O

oeing B-17

Total Shipped Total Shipped

0

150

46

87

294

1,264
3

3

o

o

0

12

12

106

106
6

rth American B-25B

Harvard II
Mustang

orthrop Vengeance

itcairn Autogiro
tearman PT-27

6

o

O

52

949

o

359

439

5

o

5

148

149

O

o

o

ought-Sikorsky Chesspeake

ultee Stinson 0-49

Grand Total - All Types

5

5

50

O

o

66

10

2,304

14

7,216

in 1941

May 5,1942

May 12,1942

May 19,1942

Week

Ended

of shipments
March 3,1942

April 7,1942
1941 to date
March 10,1942

April 14,1942

April 21,1942

March 17,1942

March 24,1942

March 31,1942

Weekly average

January 6,1942

*

April 28, 1942
January 13,1942

January 20,1942

January 27,1942

February 3,1942

Total shipments
February 10,1942

February 17,1942

February 24,1942
since January 1,

medium

17

2,377

55

35

14

22

69

55

49

29

34

94

33

26

9

33

12

3

8

24

36

24

bombers

Light and

totals up to that date.

0 3 2

160

7 2

11

10

1

9

1

2

o

O

0

O

2

o

o

0

o

O

Heavy

bombers

0

0

0

168

o

o

o

o

o

12

O

1 2

O

2

3 3

1

3

5

2

O

Naval

patrol

bombers

2,547

42

75

98

43

39

8

86

79

58

41

86

80

78

94

59

10

14

100

28

30

58

Pursuit

Table C - Plane Shipments to the British by Weeks

114

0

o

o

12

15

6 4 4

o

8 1

6 7 7 o

4

55

o

O

4

1
Army

Cooperation

1,850

Total includes planes shipped in 1942 prior to March 17 which are not included in the weekly

7,216

7 6

66

118

4

118

26

110

34

158

29

183

5

88

10

122

84

o

278

137

0

110

0

1

113

129

o

62

4

4

99

30

13

60

42

9

30
Trainers

143

82

105

72

100

Totals

389

MAY 25 1942

my dear Ms. subscriber

I wish to refer to the agreement dated January 3. 1942,
relative to the purchase of 602,000 fine two cances of gold w
the secretary of the Treasury fres the Government of the Union of
service Socialist Republica. against which - advence of $20,000,000
was sade on January 5. ight.

I take pleasure is enclosing for your information two
copies of the assay report of the United States Assey office as
New Test giving - analysis of the gold which was consigned to
the Federal Reserve Beak of New York and was deposited by your

deverment on May 9. 1948, for the account of the Secretary of
the treasury.

Yes will observe free the enclosed report that the shipmeal, after molting and upes asset. was determined to centain
192,756.600 fine trey casess of gold and to have a value of
96,721,551. After the deduction of the amount of $16,970.78
representing the selfing charge of $191.90 plus the 1/46 headling
charge of 616,776.58. the not value of the gold was 66.694 580.22.
This assess of gold has been applied w the Treasury against the
amount of gold agreed to be purchased w the secretary of the
treasury under the agreement of January 3. 1942.
sincerely years.
(Signed) H. Morgenthau. Jr.

secretary of the treasury.
Mis succilloner
Masta satviness,

subscroader of the Union of service
Socialist Republica.
Inclosures.

390
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Y

United States Mint Service
New York, N. Y.

Office of
THE SUPERINTENDENT

U. S. Assay Office
32 Old Slip

May 21, 1942

Secretary of the Treasury
Treasury Department
Washington, D. C.

Attention: Mr. Frank Dietrich
Honorable Sir:

We herewith enclose ten copies of form 42A, as instruct-

ed in your letter of May 8.

This covers the deposit made at this office on May 13
for credit of the Secretary of the Treasury, Special Account.
Respectfully,

/s/ E. R. Lonch
Acting Superintendent

ERL:ML

Encs.

Copy:imc

5/25/42

7350

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Form 42A

391

TREASURY DEPARTMENT.
U.S. MINT SERVICE

193

MAY 13 1942

GOLD

BULLION deposited at the Assay Office of the United States at New York

(SILVER)

by

,

MEMO. REPORT ON

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK Yer Credit of the Seen of the Treasury

WEIGHT.

Refd Bars

Ounces.

8

8

Dec.

584

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569

99

8 684 18
8

8

8

8

8

8

8

8

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BILVER.

689

42

611

73

287

21

483

05

593

87

469

45

440

94

815

63

8 336 53
8 182 69
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(sont)

IN GOLD BARS,

(le net value of the above deposit is
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VALUE.

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Cta.

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CHARGES.

VALUE AT

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999.8
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999.8
999.8
999.8
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of the depositor, and is of no other value.

392

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

, 961
a 894 88

1,000ths

758

Cta

Dollars.

1,000ths.

NET VALUE.

CHARGES.

VALUE AT
Cents per fine or.
Dollars,

Cta.

Dollars

OIL

Dollars

Cta.

999.9
999.7
999.8
$92.0
999.8

999.8
999.8
999.8
999.8
6,711

193

FINENCE

VALUE.

551

00

16,990 TO

6,694

860

600

191.90 Maiting chgs
$

, net value of the above deposit is
payable as follows:

Chgs
For the Superintendent.
DARST. $ $ 16,978.88 16,970.78
Handling Total chase
Georwich

BY CHECK,
fine

Sliver, oza.

$ 6,694,580.22

P.A - PRINTING

6411

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WCNS

May 25, 1942 - 3:35 D.M.

The Supreme Court refused to review a $228,294,283 New York

State court judgement against the Banque of France in favor of
assignees of the Banque Nationale de Belgique.

The suit involves the value of gold deposited by the Belgian
bank before the war with the French bank in Paris for safekeeping.

The French bank conceded, in its brief to the High Court, that
"for reasons which it is not here important to discuss" the gold
was not redelivered to the Belgian bank after Germany overran
France.

Assignees of the Belgian bank, Daniel de Gorter and Henri
de Wild, New York, brought suit against a $749,000,000 fund on

deposit in New York to the French bank's credit. The French benk
contended that New York Courts had no authority to try cases

involving foreign corporations neither of which conduct business

in the State but their plea was rejected.

Copy:inc
5/26/42

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TELEGRAM SENT

HRL

This telegram must be
paraphrased before being
communicated to anyone
other then A Governmental

May 25, 1949
2 D.M.

agency. (BR)

AMERICAN CONSULATE GENERAL,

CAPETOWN, (SOUTH AFRICA).
98

FROM TREASURY

QUOTE. Your 67, May 13, 10 a.m.
Please cable rate At which South African RESERVE

Bank negotiates doller telegraphic transfers, checks
drawn on Treasurer of United States, and United States
currency exchanged for official purposes. END QUOTE
PULL

(FL)

FD:FL:MLB

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- m. sybe
w. Monor
w. a. w. nots

--

wass you please and the following eable to the invoice conculate
exportment, south

Your no. 67. - 13. so a.s. Please wite note as which Smith

African - Seak dollar telegraphic treatment, - $ I of united States, and United States - -

- for official -

396
PLAYN

Ankara

Dated May 25, 1948
Ree'd 10:30 Pomo

Secretary of State,
Washington,

478, Twenty-first
The semi-official ULUS published this morning
a communique from the Ministry of Gommoree announcing

the termination commencing today of the payment of
premiums on free exchange sold in connection with

the purchase of Turkish products for expert. Provision is made for payment of the usual premiums

in certain specified cases such as (one) where an
export license has been granted prior to May 25th
and (sma) where Turkish products have been pur-

chased prior to May 25th and letters of credit
opened provided the transaction is recorded in the
Compensation Company within 48 hours and the

export license obtained within a week. The
Compensation Company is to continue to collect

premiums in connection with the purchase of free
exchange

397

+ even Twenty-fifth

from Ankara

enchange will a adfisient - has been collected
to liquidate the arrears in respect to exchange
presiums which have been granted. It is stated that
the present docision has been taken in order "to
conferm to the present economic conditions resulting
from the world ware"
STEINHARDT

JRL

(GOPE)

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COPY NO.

13

BRITISH MOST SECRET

(U.S. SECRET)

OPTEL No. 171

Information received up to 7 A.M., 25th May, 1942.
1. MILITARY

LIBYA. 23rd. Extensive enemy movement behind his

front with obvious and determined intention to prevent us observing
his movements.
2. AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 24th. A sweep over Northern FRANCE

by eight Squadrons of Spitfires resulted in two enemy fighters destroyed and nine damaged. Near our coasts two enemy aircraft were

damaged for the loss of one Spitfire, pilot safe.
24th/25th. About 55 enemy aircraft operated between
PORTLAND and the ISLE OF WIGHT. One Heinkel bomber was destroyed.
MALTA. Between 1700/23 and 1345/24 six enemy bombers

and forty fighters flew over the Island. Three enemy aircraft
were destroyed and one damaged.
3. HOME SECURITY

24th/25th. Bombs dropped in the BOURNEMOUTH and

ISLE OF WIGHT areas caused damage to house property and a few

casualties.
4. NORWAY

The construction of five submarine pens at TRONDHJEM

begun a year ago is now taking shape. Two are probably ready for

roofing. They adjoin , basin which has a floating dock and is
constantly used by submarines.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE May 25, 1942

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

Mr. Kamarck

Subject: Summary of Intelligence Reports
Use of American Planes -- Libya
On the night of May 21/22, 35 R.A.F. bombers and
50 Kittyhawk fighters attacked Axis camps and the landing
grounds at Martuba. Some of the Kittyhawk fighters carried
bombs and made successful attacks. (The Kittyhawk version
of the P-40 is evidently much more versatile than the Tomahawk version. The Kittyhawk not only can carry out longrange missions, but, according to this report, is also
useful as a bomber.)
(U.K. Operations Report, May 24, 1942)
German Navy

The Germans are constructing submarine shelters in
Bordeaux. These are designed to accommodate 15 submarines,

but are unlikely to be finished for several months. The
German Todt Organization is doing the work, although Bordeaux is only used by Italian submarines. The shelters
are similar to those at Brest, St. Nazaire and La Pallice
(that is, huge, concrete, hangar-like, bomb-proof shelters.)
(U.K. Operations Report, May 22, 1942)
German Home Propaganda

The primary propaganda theme is that the Homeland must

be worthy of the front by cheerfully producing weapons and
bearing burdens. The magnificant German women can work
harder and the farmers can deliver more.

There is a significant ban on forecasts of a general
offensive, or of expected results this summer.

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One interesting development is that while "democracy"

18 still used as a term of abuse, it is beginning to be
used in its proper sense. The line recently adopted by

Goebbels is that Hitler has created the first and only democracy in the world. (This 18 an interesting development.
The popular movements in Europe in the last hundred years
have been those of democracy and socialism. In the period
prior to the attack on Russia, the Nazis could pose as
attackers of plutocratic democracy, but as the representatives
of socialism. with the war being waged against both Russia
and the Western Powers, the Germans have been placed in the
unenviable European propagandist position of attacking both
democracy and socialism.)

(c. O. I., May 25, 1942)
Germany

The British Political Warfare Executive points out that

Goering's speech of May 20 did not make any attacks on

Britain. It is believed that this may be important in

connection with an attempt at a negotiated peace.
(U.K. Political Warfare Executive; Proposed German
Directive, May 31 - June 6, 1942)