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DIARY

Book 499

February 20 and 21, 1942

ABook

Page

499

323

Airplanes

Shipments to British Forces - Kamarck report 2/20/42

American Federation of Labor
See Speeches by HMJr

Appointments and Resignations

Morris, Dave, Jr.: Exchange of letters on leaving
for the Army - 2/20/42.

217

-B Barth, Alan
Editorial Opinion on the War: The Basic Cleavage 2/20/42

290

Belgium

See Foreign Funds Control: Sofina
Brazil
See Latin America

British Purchasing Mission

Federal Reserve Bank of New York statement showing
dollar disbursements, week ending February 11, 1942..

327

-cChina
Loan:

Draft agreement discussed by representatives of
Treasury and State, together with Fox and Currie 2/20/42

201

202

a) Draft agreement

420

b) Re-draft - 2/21/42

Ambassador Gauss's recommendations concerning loan 2/21/42.

Chinese students in United States - financial aid to 2/20/42

Churchill, Winston
HMJr asks for autographed picture - 2/20/42
Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's resume' - 2/20/42

425
336
321

268

-DDefense Savings Bonds
See Financing, Government

Deferments, Military
Secret Service: Gaston recommendations concerning White
House detail - 2/20/42
Dows, Olin

See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

312

-EExchange Market

Resume's - 2/20-21/42.

Book

Page

499

357,448

-FFinancing, Government
Defense Savings Bonds:

See also Speeches by HMJr - American Federation of

Labor purchase of $1 billion
Monroe, Lucy: Thanked for offer of participation 2/20/42

219

Dows, (Olin) and Mrs. HMJr to advise on future art
work - 2/20/42
a) Sloan-HMJr conversation on Dows' appointment -

220

2/24/42: See Book 500, page 191
b) Delay recommended in view of Melvyn Douglas

publicity - 2/25/42: Book 501, page 60
Progress report - 2/20/42
Payroll Savings Plan: Firms employing 500 persons or
more - report on
Series E Savings Bonds: Daily changes in stock on

hand - 2/20/42.
Foreign Funds Control

230
240

242

Belgium:

Sofina (Societe financiere de transports et
d'entreprises industrielles): HMJr and Nelson
Rockefeller discuss - 2/21/42

378

Wenner-Gren, Axel: Wega, S. A. - American Embassy,

Mexico City, message concerning organization - 2/20/42..

354

-GGeneral Counsel, Office of
Congressional Record digest as affecting Treasury 2/20/42

249

Gold

"Bullets" (payments to soldiers partly in gold):
Treasury- FDR correspondence concerning 2/20/42

316

Vatican: Further purchases discussed by National City

Bank of New York and Federal Reserve Bank of
New York - 2/20/42
(See also Book 501, page 457 - 2/26/42; Book 504,
pages 236 and 237 - 3/5/42)

356

-L- Latin America

Status of loans and Stabilization Fund explained to
Senator Burton (Ohio) - 2/20/42

Brazil:
Current position - White memorandum - 2/20/42

350
351

- Exclange Market

Resume's - 2/20-21/42.

Book

Page

499

357,448

-Ffinancing, Government
Defense Savings Bonds:

See also Speeches by HMJr - American Federation of

Labor purchase of $1 billion
Monroe, Lucy: Thanked for offer of participation

-

2/20/42.

219

Dows, (Olin) and Mrs. HMJr to advise on future art
work - 2/20/42
a) Sloan-HMJr conversation on Dows' appointment -

220

publicity - 2/25/42: Book 501. page 60
Progress report - 2/20/42
Payroll Savings Plan: Firms employing 500 persons or

230

2/24/42: See Book 500, page 191
b) Delay recommended in view of Melvyn Douglas

more - report on
Series E Savings Bonds: Daily changes in stock on
hand - 2/20/42

240

242

orsign Funds Control
Belgium:

Sofina (Societe financiere de transports et
d'entreprises industrielles): HMJr and Nelson
Rockefeller discuss - 2/21/42

fenner-Gren, Axel: Wega, S. A. - American Embassy,
Mexico City, message concerning organization - 2/20/42.

378
354

-eneral Counsel, Office of
Congressional Record digest as affecting Treasury 2/20/42

249

oli

"Bullets" (payments to soldiers partly in gold) :
Treasury--Mrs. FDR correspondence concerning 2/20/42

316

latican: Further purchases discussed by National City
Bank of New York and Federal Reserve Bank of
New York - 2/20/42
(See also Book 501. page 457 - 2/26/42: Book 504,
pages 236 and 237 - 3/5/42)

356

-Latin America

Status of loans and Stabilization Fund explained to
Senator Burton (Ohio) - 2/20/42
Brazil:
Current position - White memorandum - 2/20/42

350
351

- L - (Continued)
Book

Page

499

398

Lehmann, Lotte

Canadian trip discussed by HMJr and Acheson - 2/21/42.
Lend-Lease

U.S.S.R.

Shipments - Swope report - 2/20/42
(See also Book 500, pages 71 and 73)

246,416

a) Delivery of all orders by April 1: HMJr's
memorandum to Swope - 2/24/42: Book 500, page 258
b) Mack's further memorandum: Book 500, page 259,
and Book 501, page 452

c) HMJr's note to Stettinius on delay in requisitions

reaching Treasury - 2/24/42: Book 500, page 261
d) Stettinius' answer - 2/25/42: Book 501, page 190
e) Nelson-HMJr correspondence - 3/4/42: Book 504,
page 50

f) McCabe (Deputy Administrator)-HMJ correspondence 3/4/42: Book 504, page 52
g) Mack memorandum on "Russian Protocol items" 3/5/42: Book 504, page 182
1) Nelson informed and copy of letter taken
to Cabinet - 3/6/42: Book 505, page 2
2) Nelson-HMJr conversation about pressure
on Nelson - 3/6/42: Book 505, page 5
a) Conversation repeated to Mack:
Book 505, page 12

h) Mack memorandum (additional) - 3/6/42: Book 505,
page 32

1) Nelson memorandum (further)---hook 505, page 36,
3/6/42--supported by

1) Report of Iron and Steel Branch:
Book 505, page 37

2) Tabulation covering 11 items other than

steel: Book 505, page 86
3) Procurement Division (Mack) comment 3/9/42: Book 506, page 132
(See also Book 507, pages 15 and 18)
j) Conference with Gromyko - 3/6/42:
Book 505, page 89

Operating report for week ending February 21, 1942

418

-MMelia, Joseph
Editorial Comment on the Home Front: Economies and
Taxos - 2/20/42

296

Military Reports
Reports from London transmitted by Halifax and Campbell 2/20-21/42

British Home Intelligence report for week ending
February 16, 1942 - 2/21/42
Monroe, Lucy

See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

357-A,449
454

- M - (Continued)
Morgenthau, Henry, III
Draft Status: Postal cards answered - 2/21/42
(See also Book 501, page 116 - 2/25/42)
Morris, Dave, Jr.

Book Page
499

402

See Appointments and Resignations

-NNetherlands
See Westchester Apartments

-PPhilippine Islands
Silver pesos - report on contents of Treasury vaults 2/20/42

355

Plant Expansion

Reconversion from war production to peace-time
production, and War Department reaction against,
discussed in Sullivan memorandum - 2/21/42

415

Post-War Planning

British press reactions on problems - Hoflich
memorandum - 2/20/42

349

-RRevenue Revision

1942 Revenue Bill:

Conference; present: HMJr, Sullivan, Paul, Tarleau,
and Blough - 2/20/42
a) Paul describes conference with Doughton,
George, and Stam; discussion of
1) $1 billion corporate tax program

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2) Individual tax program, particularly

withholding at source
3) Sales tax and excise taxes

a) HMJr asks for study on amounts
paid by single person earning $750
and couple earning $1500 - 2/26/42:
Book 501, page 234

4) Loopholes, especially tax-exempts and

joint returns

Tentative Treasury program as of February 20, 1942..
-SSecret Service
See Deferments, Military

Sofina (Societe financiere de transports et d'entreprises
industrielles)
See Foreign Funds Control: Belgium

53

- S - (Continued)

Book

Page

Speeches by HMJr
Defense Savings Bonds

American Federation of Labor thanked for participation: 499
Draft 1 - 2/20/42.
2 - 2/21/42.

222
359

369

.

3 - 2/21/42
Reading copy - 2/22/42: See Book 500, page 1
1) Guests: Book 500, page 11

2) Pledge to buy $1 billion in Defense Bonds:
Book 500, page 16

3) Set of recordings sent to William Green 2/27/42: Book 502, page.124

-T- Taxation
See Revenue Revision

-UU.S.S.R.
See Lend-Lease
-V--

Vatican
See Gold

-WWar Department

See Plant Expansion
Wenner-Gren, Axel

See Foreign Funds Control
Westchester Apartments

Ownership explained to FDR - 2/20/42

335

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February 20, 1942

10:23 a.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Mrs.

Brady:

Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

Yes.

B:

Is there something I can do for you?

HMJr:

I think there 18. Is Grace coming in this

morning?
B:

Oh,
she's in; but she's over at the house right
now.

HMJr:

Well, I wonder if you could get this message,

because I'd like to get a clearance if possible.
B:

Uh huh.

HMJr:

Before lunch.

B:

Uh huh.

HMJr:

Have you got a pencil?

B:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

I've asked Mr. Sumner Pike

B:

Yes.

HMJr:

of SEC

B:

Uh huh.

HMJr:

whether he would take charge of the - and
run - the Aniline Dye Corporation for me.

B:

Uh huh.

HMJr:

Hello. He'd like to do it very much.

B:

Uh huh.

HMJr:

But before resigning from the SEC to do this,

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-2he'd just like to know that it meets with the
President's approval.

HMJr:

Uh huh. All right.
He'd like to do it very much, and I'm very anxious

B:

All right. Well, I'11 get an answer for you 8.8

HMJr:

Would you, please?

B:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

Thank you.

B:

to have him do it.
soon as I can.

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February 20, 1942

10:40 a.m.
HMJr:

William C.

Hello.

Bullitt:

Hello.

HMJr:

Bill.

B:

Hello, Henry.

HMJr:

How are you?

B:

Fine, how are you?

HMJr:

I read your letter yesterday.

B:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And I just wanted to compliment you on it.
(Laughs) You approved of it, did you?
Well, I - you know where I stood when you

B:

HMJr:

asked me originally.

B:

Yes.

HMJr:

And I'm very glad you did it at this time for
everybody who's involved.

B:

Well, that's fine, Henry. I'm delighted.

HMJr:

Because it was a good letter, and it helped us
in what we're trying to do.

B:

Well, what I thought was that I'd try to devise
one that wasn't going to hurt anybody's feelings
and wasn't going to look as if there was anything more in it than met the eye.
Right. Now, the funny thing is, you know, we
suggested that they release the letter.

HMJr:

B:

Yes.

HMJr:

And Mack has not yet released it.

-2B:

Well, now, I'11 tell you. I was called up

yesterday by, I think his name is Williamson,
've never met him.

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

And he said to me that you had made that sug-

gestion to do that, and did I have any objection
to it being released; and I said certainly I
had no objection to the thing being released
at once.

HMJr:

Yeah. Well, I think we'll get them to release
it today because I think for your sake, it
should be released.

B:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And the sooner the better.

B:

Yeah.

HMJr:

For your sake.

B:

Well, there we are. Henry.

HMJr:

Yes.

B:

Are you going to be in town over the week-end?

HMJr:

Yes.

B:

I'd love to sit down with you for a few minutes.
Well, will you give me a ring?

HMJr:
B:

You bet.

HMJr:

Righto. I'd like to see you.

B:

Righto. Good-bye. I'11 let you know then.

HMJr:

Thank you.

B:

Good-bye.

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February 20, 1942

10:44 a.m.
Francis
Biddle:

Hello, Henry.

HMJr:

I just wanted to tell you that my wife, who

has lots more horse sense than I have, says
I should go to that dinner Monday night.

HMJr:

(Laughs) Well.
She says she thinks it's a mistake.

B:

Well, I'll probably hear from Ed. Did you

B:

hear from Ed again?

HMJr:

No, I haven't.

B:

Yeah.

HMJr:

But I thought I would send word to them that

I'll be glad to go and sit wherever he wants
to put me.

B:

Is Mrs. Morgenthau going, too?

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

I see.

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

Well, I'll consider it; but I don't want to if

HMJr:

I can help it.
Well, I wanted to tell you. I found that she'd
already accepted.

B:

Oh, I see.

HMJr:

But she thinks that I should go

B:

All right, Henry. Thank you.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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February 20, 1942
10:44 a.m.
Francis
Biddle:
HMJr:

Hello, Henry.

I just wanted to tell you that my wife, who

has lots more horse sense than I have, says
should go to that dinner Monday night.
(Laughs) Well.
She says she thinks it's a mistake.
I

B:

HMJr:
B:

Well, I'11 probably hear from Ed. Did you
hear from Ed again?

HMJr:

No, I haven't.

B:

Yeah.

HMJr:

But I thought I would send word to them that
I'11 be glad to go and sit wherever he wants
to put me.

B:

Is Mrs. Morgenthau going, too?

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

I see.

HMJr:

Yeah.

B:

HMJr:

Well, I'11 consider it; but I don't want to if
I can help it.
Well, I wanted to tell you. I found that she'd
already accepted.

B:

Oh, I see.

HMJr:

But she thinks that I should go

B:

All right, Henry. Thank you.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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See pages 357A-D

P<

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February 20, 1942
10:45 a.m.

TAXES

Present: Mr. Tarleau
Mr. Blough
Mr. Paul

Mr. Sullivan

H.M.JR: Before we go in on our own, somebody

give me a little thumbnail sketch of last night.

MR. PAUL: Well, we - Mr. Doughton and Senator
George and John Sullivan and I and Stam were there.

We discussed four points. We first discussed the
corporate tax problem. We put up to them very ten-

tatively a new scheme which we evolved yesterday to
get verbally around the emotional objection they have

to a reduction of the credit from ninty-five to seventyfive percent. Stam had provisionally indicated his
acceptance of that in the afternoon. George took
quite to it. I don't know how much Doughton understood

it from the conversation last night.
MR. SULLIVAN: He didn't.

MR. PAUL: But he didn't indicate anything. George

cottoned right to it. George indicated that - one

thing that I thought showed good development, that he

wasn't against the billion dollar corporate tax program.

In fact, he said that if you are going to raise nine
billion, about a third of it has to come from the

2

corporations. Then we went on to discuss the individual
program. We didn't discuss any specific rates, but the
principal item we discussed there was witholding at the
source. The principal thing we discussed in connection

with individual taxes was the control of inflation and
necessity plus the withholding mechanism. I think
Doughton had some doubts about the witholding but
he centered mostly on whether it was practical and

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and we assured him that our scheme was, and he

seemed to accept that pretty well. George accepted
it more than he. 3 Then we discussed sales taxes.
H.M.JR: You don't agree?

MR. SULLIVAN: No, I don't. He feels just exactly
the way they felt up there after that first meeting,

that you couldn't withhold from the wage earner
because you weren't withholding except on a three
months basis on the provisional fellow and the pro-

visional employer. He didn't feel that way, Randolph.

MR. PAUL: I thought he did when we said we were
going
to have the employer withhold from himself every
three months.
MR. SULLIVAN: No. The reason I know this, Randolph,

is that he has talked with me about this over the phone
and other times within the last month, several times.
MR. PAUL: Well, he talked privately to you while
I was talking to George for a while so it might be
that he said something then, but I am inclined to

disagree with you. I don't think we are going to

have any trouble any way.

MR. SULLIVAN: I think we are going to have trouble

but I think we can win. I think it is the most important

part of the whole program.

MR. PAUL: Then we discussed sales taxes and there

isn't any doubt that we are going to have some trouble.
I don't think Mr. Doughton or Mr. George are very strong

for them but they recogniz that there is a strong pressure on the Hill and they indicated that in their opinion

a reduction of the exemptions, about which we asked their
opinion, would be something in the nature of an alternative
to sales taxes. We discussed excises to some extent.
The general reaction - some of them were all right. We

indicated some of them we were thinking of. For instance, increased tax on beer is all right with me.

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12

Some of them Doughton objected to and the general

feeling about excise taxes, well, if you have got
to have them, why not have a sales tax, and I

don't think we made too much progress on .that point.

a

We finally - I had better say we discussed loop-holes.
The principal one under discussion - two under discussion being tax-exempts and they said we wouldn't

possibly get that through their committees. Second,
joint returns and there Doughton brought back the

whole conversation--

MR. SULLIVAN: He really got warmed up then.

MR. PAUL: He got warmed up at that point.
H.M.JR: Which way is he?

MR. SULLIVAN: Anti-President, anti-Rayburn,

anti-McCormack.

MR. PAUL: He doesn't want the earned income

exemption from the individual tax. ne indicated,
for instance, that by God he wasn't going to have
any sales taxes until they closed that loop-hole.
MR. SULLIVAN: He wasn't going to have any taxes,
Mr. Secretary.

MR. PAUL: Any taxes, but particularly he said

sales.

H.M.JR: Did he get personal on it?
MR. SULLIVAN: As far as the President and Rayburn and McCormack? You bet your life!

MR. PAUL: He got personal as far as the Secretary
was concerned. He said he appreciated his being on

his side of it.

MR. SULLIVAN: That was on economy, Randolph.

That was the second time he has pulled that.

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MR. PAUL: He or George said that. He brought

in economy at the end, yes, and George then said,

"Well, I guess, Mr. Doughton, we have to get a little
economical up on the hill, too."
MR. SULLIVAN: "Oh, we can't do that unless

they take that-- They can't pass the buck to us.
H.M.JR: I am sick and tired of hearing that.
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, I know.

H.M.JR: I mean, your telling it to me. I'm not
sick of your telling it to me, I mean what the Hill

tells me.

MR. SULLIVAN: I know.

MR. PAUL: Finally, we discussed the matter of
when we would come up there and it was tentatively

arranged subject to your plans that we are to let

them know Tuesday.

H.M.JR: Tuesday?
MR. PAUL: Next week.

H.M.JR: Do they want me Tuesday?

MR. PAUL: No, they want you the following

Tuesday, if that is convenient to you and we are
to let them know next Tuesday whether it is.
H.M.JR: Who?

MR. PAUL: Doughton.

MR. SULLIVAN: The reason why we don't let
them know until next Tuesday is that Doughton

left this morning and won't be back until Monday

night.

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MR. PAUL: I think it is March 3rd.
H.M.JR: This is the twentieth. We have one

more week in this month. I didn't realize.

MR. PAUL: Isn't that Tuesday March 3rd, or is

it the second?

H.M.JR: Tuesday is the third.
MR. PAUL: Well, that is the day then.

H.M.JR: Well, I can tell them right now.
MR. PAUL: Well, you can't tell Mr. Doughton.

He is away. He went down home for the week end.

H.M.JR: I see. That is swell. I thought you

meant this next Tuesday.

MR. PAUL: We offered to go this next week but

Doughton--

MR. SULLIVAN: You looked pretty good when he

said, "No, we couldn't."

MR. PAUL: Well, we made the offer didn't we?
MR. SULLIVAN: We certainly made the offer.

H.M.JR: Is that the highlights?
MR. PAUL: That is right.
MR. SULLIVAN: That is right.

H.M.JR: Let's do it this way. Let's start with
the thing that bothers me the most first. That is
the advantage of being the boss. I can pick the
order in which we will take things up. That is, this

question, I can go around and ask where each of you

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stand and then where the people on the Hill stand.
I am talking about lowering the exemptions.
MR. PAUL: We brought that up specifically

last night to get their reaction.

H.M.JR: Let's just-MR. PAUL: John can tell what he thinks about it.
MR. SULLIVAN: I am opposed to it, sir. We are
now down to the point where an individual, a single

individual earning fourteen dollars and forty-five
cents pays an income tax. There is no point of reducing it unless you reduce it down at least to
six hundred from seven hundred fifty. There is no
point to it unless you go down at least a hundred
and fifty dollars. If you do that, that will mean
that the person who earns eleven dollars and sixty

cents a week will be paying an income tax. Now,
there are many areas in the country where a person
earning that money can support himself. There are
other areas in which he can't possibly do that and
he will have to be getting supplementary help from

the state or the county and I think for us to levy

an income tax on a person who must receive help or

charity is a rather absurd situation. Now, some
people, and I think Roy is one of them, feel that

this is bad but it is worth while if it helps us
beat a sales tax. I don t feel that way about it.
I think that there is a very dangerous threat of a
sales tax but I don't think it is up to us to beat it
with something we think is bad, but not quite as bad
as the sales tax. I think it is up to us to try to

beat both of them. That is my position.
H.M.JR: That is clear.
MR. PAUL: Let's hear from Roy.

H.M.JR: Let's hear from Roy. Did you get that
thing I sent you.

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MR. BLOUGH: Yes. On the basis of the pure equity
involved, I wouldn't want to see this exemption lowered.
H.M.JR: Should Tarleau be in on this?
MR. SULLIVAN: I think so.

MR. PAUL: I would like to have him in. In fact,
Icussion.
think Tarleau ought to be in almost every tax disMR. SULLIVAN: So do I.

MR. PAUL: If not all staff discussions.
H.M.JR: Go ahead, Roy.

MR. PAUL: Hebloses a certain amount of familiarity

with your point of view. He just gets a derivative.
MR. BLOUGH: So far as the equity of the de-

duction is concerned, I agree with Mr. Sullivan. On
the other hadn, the situation at the present time is

an extremely unusual one and I feel that because of the

threat of infliction on the one hand, because of the
feeling of the rest of the population that more people
ought to be paying direct taxes, because event with a

reduction in personal exemptions to six hundred and
twelve hundred we won't have half the population of the
United States paying income taxes, and because I

think that this helps to meet the general public
sentiment which is back of the sales tax, I am in

favor of having the personal exemptions lowered, but
only to be accompanied by some tax savings at the

bottom so that part of this-H.M.JR: Tax savings?

MR. BLOUGH: Well, some people call it com-

pulsory savings which I prefer to call tax savings
accounts or something like that like that.
MR. PAUL: Or bonds.

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MR. BLOUGH: Or bonds, which would be given

to the people at the very bottom and available to
them after the war.

H.M.JR: Sir Frederick Phillips gave me this

yesterday, what Donald Duck would pay in England.

We have all been wrong so far. "Personal allowance,
three hundred two dollars. Ten percent earned income allowance, two hundred fifty. Three dependent
children, six hundred. Total allowance, one thousand
one hundred seven. Taxable income, one thousand

three hundred thirty. The first six hundred sixty

dollars of taxable income on six showings equals
two hundred fourteen dollars. The remaining six
hundred seventy of taxable income is three hundred

seventy-five. Income payable, five hundred forty-

nine dollars and fifty cents.

(Mr. Tarleau entered the conference.)
H.M.JR: That is Donald Duck's income in England.
He would pay five hundred forty-nine dollars and

fifteen cents.

MR. PAUL: Against thirteen.
MR. BLOUGH: Of course, there are more things

to be added to the thirteen but even so, it is
nothing like that.
H.M.JR: But you are for lowering it?

Mr. Sullivan is for not lowering it and Mr.

Blough is for lowering it and I wondered where
you (Tarleau) stood.

MR. TARLEAU: Well, reludantly, I am for lower-

ing it, yes.

H.M.JR: And you?

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MR. PAUL: I am. I have changed my position

and I want to add--J can't add anything on the point on the merits to what Roy has said, but I do want
to say two things. I have discussed this question
with Hetzel. You were there one day and yesterday
I ran into him over at the Washington at lunch hour.

I said, "Now tell me what you really think about this.
He said, "Well, if it will help beat the sales tax
we won't kick about it. We may make a little nominal
kick." Now, another thing that ought to be borne in
mind is George's attitude which he displayed last
night. He has a fear - he might be wrong, but he
expressed it - that after the war there are going to
be so many bonds, if we don't do something about it, in
the hands of the wealthier classes that there is going
to be a strong political pressure toward simply ignoring
the liability and therefore he expressed a view that

we ought to have some scheme for getting bonds into the
hands of the widespread public.
now?

H.M.JR: What the hell does he think we are doing

MR. SULLIVAN: That is what I told him, about the
payroll deduction.
MR. PAUL: We told him about that and he was very

pleased, but this would be an additional expedient to
that end.

MR. SULLIVAN: He mentioned that before he knew
what we were doing on payroll deductions, Randolph.

MR. PAUL: I know, and you called that to his

attention, but all I am saying, John, is this, that

if you have a reduction of the exemption coupled with
the distribution of bonds to cover the tax representing
the reduction, then you do spread bonds more than other-

wise among the public.

MR. SULLIVAN: No doubt.

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MR. PAUL: So I wanted to mention that point.

I am sure that aspect of it will be popular with
George.

MR. SULLIVAN: I would just like to add one thing,
Mr. Secretary, to this discussion.
H.M.JR: Please.

MR. SULLIVAN: It was perfectly apparent to me

last night that lowering exemptions is not going to
defeat the sales tax. You recall, Randolph, that

Senator George said, "We are going to have one group

that is very strong for lowering exemptions, and we
are going to have another group that is very strong

for lowering the sales tax. My suspicion is that if
we can't hold this thing we are going to get both,
which I think would be very very bad.

H.M.JR: Now, could you (Blough) give me verbally
a summary of the thing that Hetzel sent me this morning?
MR. BLOUGH: Yes.

H.M.JR: What does it say?
MR. BLOUGH: The summary, verbally, is this,

that they made an examination of their affiliated
unions in sixteen industries and about fifty three
towns and nine states. In other words, it is a

sample. They found that their membership had had about
a fifteen percent increase in income between November,
'41, and November '40, or about twenty-two dollars

increase in their income.

H.M.JR: Twenty-two dollars per week?
MR. BLOUGH: Per month. These were fairly prosperous families; a hundred and seventy-three dollars
a month was the average. They have had an increase of

twenty-two dollars in a year per month.

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MR. PAUL: A hundred and seventy three is with

the increase, isn't it?

MR. BLOUGH: With the increase.

H.M.JR: From what date to what date?
MR. BLOUGH: November '40, to November '41.
H.M.JR: Go ahead.

MR. BLOUGH: And that practically - well, about

nineteen dollars of that, they figure, though their
calculations don't all check, about nineteen dollars
of that twenty-two went into higher food, clothing,
and housing expenditures. In the case of food well, in the case of all of them, they bought more.
The increases in prices were not sufficient to offset the increase in wages and they bought more,

especially in the case of clothing.

H.M.JR: You mean they bought more clothing?

MR. BLOUGH: More or higher priced clothing and
they bought more or higher priced housing, because

the indexes in those particular fields didn't go up
as much as their expenditures went up and they also

increased their other expenditures like expenditures

on cars and household operations, installment purchases
and personal care by a somewhat higher percentage but

it is still, of course, a very small proportion of their
total. I don't know if that is sufficient for you or
not.
H.M.JR: That is enough. This is the way I feel,
gentlemen. I look at this thing from the social viewpoint and I can't look at it whether this is the way
to defeat the sales tax or whether it isn't. But feeling
the way I do at this particular stage of the war effort,
and until I am convinced that Congress means to close

up these billion dollar loop-holes which I mentioned

in Cleveland, I am not going to recommend lowering it.

I can't do it. My conscience won't let me. I know what
is going on in the automobile industry. They want to

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give these people their twenty-four dollars a month
to tide them over. They pay the automobile companies
the price to tear the machinery down and they set a
price aside - money aside to put it back into place

again. Incidentally, couldn't we get a copy of one of
those contracts?

MR. SULLIVAN: Sure.

H.M.JR: Will you get me one of those?
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes.

H.M.JR: I would like to see one of those contracts.
I understand they pay them to take the machinery down

and they give them money to put it back, but they

won't pay the human beings.

MR. SULLIVAN: Any reason why I shouldn't ask

Bob Patterson to send me one?

H.M.JR: I would like you to, on one of these
change-overs.

MR. SULLIVAN: One of those tank factories, for

instance.

H.M.JR: Any one where there is a change-over,
not a new factory.
MR. SULLIVAN: No, I understand.

H.M.JR: There is much more reason to pay the man
while he is being changed over--

MR. PAUL: Oh, I agree with that but I consider
that an isolated problem. I am for paying them,

but I don't--

H.M.JR: Well, Randolph, I have had lots of time,
you know. We started discussions of this very thing
about two months ago.

MR. PAUL: When I was the other way around.

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H.M.JR: Well, I have had two months and after

carefully thinking of it, I just cen't. And the

temper of the times, the temper of the Congress

against all social effort, whether it is farm security
or anything that is to help the lower one third, I
can't sit here and be the fellow to go after the

lower one, and I am not convinced and I wish I could
get hold of one or two people - I am not convinced

that - I mean, I won't take statistics that the people
in the lower one third are the people who are going to
cause inflation and price rising. Nobody has yet
been able to sell it to me. No one has been able to
sell it to me.
MR. SULLIVAN: + am rather arguing against my own

point here, but you should have this information. It
was made very clear by Mr. Doughton last night that
no increases in Social Securitys are going to be

considered at this session if he can possibly avoid it.

I asked if he wanted to have the two combined and both
he and George immediately said, "Certainly not." and
then Doughton said, you recall, Randolph--he whirled on

me and said, "If anybody thinks they are going to get
my committee to consider another bill after we get
through with this one, they have got another think
coming."

MR. PAUL: Yes. He also said, "Social Security
is a year's fight. 11
H.M.JR: Well, gentlemen; I don't want to sound
bumptious or anything else, but the only support that
I can get in this country is from the working man and
the working woman in a real tax program and I am not

going to hit them first and then pray that I will get
the other fellows with the loopholes afterward.

MR. SULLIVAN: You are not going to get them.
MR. PAUL: Of course we were contemplating the

loopholes. In fact, that is what we thought about

yesterday.

H.M.JR: All right, get those loopholes first.

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MR. PAUL: That is reduced somewhat, by the way.

1 know exactly what will happen. I will
go up and favor this thing and we will hit the fellow
H.M.JR:

from seven hundred fifty down to six hundred or whatever you are talking about and we won't get the other

and I can't do it.

MR. PAUL: I can understand your attitude.

H.M.JR: All of my training from my early boyhood

days to this rebels against that kind of thinking.
MR. PAUL: I can understand your attitude. I
don't feel too dogmatic about the thing.
H.M.JR: And I would like very much, Roy, if
you would - if we could get hold of a couple of
bright girls or boys just out of college and make
our own little survey, see. Get a souple of boys

or girls who have got a Ph.D. or something. You can

get them at two thousand a year. I will put them on
my own payroll. Let them get out and stay out. I
would like to know, are we in the twenty-five dollar
shirt era of the last World War. I mean, Col. Greenbaum last night said that when Mr. Patterson testified,
that Knudsen said, "I understand in my district that
you are paying a hundred and ten dollars to the negro
worker in the camp and so forth and so on." Greenbaum
was give the job for Patterson to check up on the

conditions. ne said the only thing wrong with the

figures is that it is an under statement. But I
would like to go into some places like Hartford and
Norfolk. I would like to send these boys or girls.
We ought to be able to get women. Ask Miss Newcomery,

who is supposed to be here, to give us a couple of

Vessar girls. I am serious.

MR. TARLEAU: To sample the purchasing?

H.M.JR: To go in and see what they are doing.
What in - Hartford is as good a place an any.

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MR. PAUL: Patterson, New Jersey would be a good

place.

MR. SULLIVAN: Hartford is number one on the list.
They are throwing it away there at Pratt and Whitney.
I know of a boy who wanted me to recommend him for an
eighteen dollar a week job in November and he went in to
a dentist the week end I was home and showed him his

check for the last week with overtime, a hundred and

five dollars.

H.M.JR: Well, let somebody go into the very top
and do it-MR. BLOUGH: I know a corking good person over

in the Women's Bureau if I could get them to loan her

for a few weeks.

H.M.JR: That would be good. Well, if she went
out for a week you could see in the first week what
she found.

MR. BLOUGH: She has been out. She has been out.
>he may already know something about it.
H.M.JR: What is the Women's Bureau?

MR. BLOUGH: is over with the Children's Bureau
in the Security Agency. I will see what can be done.

H.M.JR: Well, let her go to where the thing is the
tops, in the Hartford area, or just let her spend a week

there. What are these people spending their money for,

see.

MR. BLOUGH: Yes, I do.

H.M.JR: I mean, I would like to know. I would
like to go into some of these homes of these munitions
workers and if they could talk to the wife -"Now,
how much does your husband earn, what is your family
budget, what are you doing, how much are you saving,

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how much is going to clothing, how much for food?"
and are they buying pianos or Defense Bonds, see.
MR. BLOUGH: Yes.

H.M.JR: And if you haven't got the money, let the
Defense Bond people pay for the survey, but let's

quit looking at figures and let's get some facts.
MR. BLOUGH: All right, good.

H.M.JR: Don't you think it would be a good idea?
MR. PAUL: *es.

H.M.JR: This thing doesn't convince me, but I
would like to know, are they buying pianos and musical
instruments or--

MR. BLOUGH: Well, the C.I.O. doesn't think so.
MR. SULLIVAN: Not from what I have seen. We have

lot of people in Manchester working in the Navy Yard.

They are paying up doctor bills and all that sort of
stuff:
H.M.JR: Well, that is good.

MR. SULLIVAN: That is just what we want to have

done, but I think we want to take a sample of the whole
country.

H.M.JR: But the whole argument that everybody is
advancing, we have got to tax the lower group because

that is where you get your inflations. Well, I don't

believe it.

MR. SULLIVAN: And even if you do, Mr. Secretary-H.M.JR: Excuse me one minute, John.
MR. SULLIVAN: Certainly.

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H.M.JR: This is certainly an intelligent way.
MR. PAUL: That is right.

H.M.JR: Now, if it is going into the few
luxuries that are left, O.K., I will take a fresh
look at it.
MR. BLOUGH: May I suggest this, that there is
under contemplation - I am not sure that it has been

decided on. I think it is more or less hush-hush at
the moment. There is under contemplation having a
sort of quarterly study of consumers' purchases.

H.M.JR: It is no damn good. Look, for Defense

Bonds - somebody told me the other day we ought to
have an economist in Defense Bonds. We don't need
one. We have got enough around here.

We ought to have a couple of intelligent girls

out all the time in the field finding out in these
various areas - take some of these - jump them around,
but le t's start at Hartford. I would like to know,
for instance - they have got some shipyards somewhere

on the Mississippi River. What are those people doing

with that Money? It is a big country. They have got
some shipyards in the Great Lakes. What do they do
with their money? They have got shipyards around
Seattle. What do they do with their money?

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MR. PAUL: Some of the airplane factories, too.
H.M.JR: Then go down to San Diego. What do the
people down there - I mean, Defense Bends could very

well have one crew in four areas constantly studying

this thing. I mean, the Treasury itself. Each agency
is - Internal Revenue could chip in a little bit and
Defense Bonds chip in a little bit, and you could have
four crews going all the time so we get a fresh weekly
report, so that I would know what these people - divide
the country into four areas, what are they doing with
their money. Then when the thing is getting out of

hand - and you could ask Leon Henderson, has he got

anything like that?

MR. BLOUGH: Let me look into the matter and
report back either tomorrow or Monday.

H.M.JR: Don't take too much time about it.
MR. BLOUGH: I mean today.

H.M.JR: Henderson might have somebody.
MR. PAUL: He may also have some data.

MR. SULLIVAN: If they haven't anybody, they will
get somebody if they get the idea.

H.M.JR: Well, if he hasn't, it an outrage.
MR. BLOUGH: I am sure there are several agencies

doing this, but I agree we might do some of our own as

a check.

H.M.JR: Have you got the time to find out what is
being done?

MR. BLOUGH: I can find out before this evening
what is being done in the Government and if the groundwork for doing something ourselves have--

H.M.JR: Until I find out what is happening and you
know you could go - there must be commercial people--

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MR. PAUL: I wouldn't be surprised if the Federal
Reserve had something on this in connection with their
installment regulations.

H.M.JR: Well, you take a concern like - if you

had what Sears-Roebuck knew, you would be - it would

be a pretty good cross-section.

MR. SULLIVAN: The purchases from Sears-Roebuck

alone would be a pretty good indication.

H.M.JR: And I can get Nelson to do that for me.
Why don't I just take two minutes and get Nelson on the
wire?

MR. SULLIVAN: I think it would be well worth

while.

H.M.JR: And tell him to send a - because he wouldn't
know from which area though, would he?
MR. BLOUGH: I don't know how closely they analyze

their statistics. They have the opportunity to dc it.

MR. PAUL: We could discuss it with him in a little
detail.
H.M.JR: Could you?
MR. SULLIVAN: Sure.

H.M.JR: Well, you have got my idea.
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes.

H.M.JR: I mean, we all sit here and this fellow
Friedman, he pulls out some statistics which are a couple
of years old. They are theoretical. Brookings statistics
are theoretical. I would like to have once a week a
report from four shopping crews, that is what it amounts
to, to go into the shopping stores and say, "Mr. so and so
in Seattle, well, what are you selling in this town, what
are
the people buying?" and then go to the families
themselves.

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Secretary, but then I go on from there. Now, here is
the fellow who earns seven hundred fifty dollars a
year. He is single. You drop the exemption to six hun-

dred. All right, he will pay twelve dollars a year in
income taxes at the present rates. Now, I don't think
that the twelve dollars we take out of him is going to

contribute an awful lot to defeat inflation.

H.M.JR: Well, if you people do the things so well,
stop being theoretical. I am not impressed with the
CIO figures, I am not satisfied, and I think that from
the Defense Bond standpoint and the tax standpoint
the Treasury ought to know every week, and that our

figures should not be over ten days old. I would like

a check every ten days, and by God, Leon Henderson ought
to have something over there.

MR. PAUL: I won't be surprised.
H.M.JR: Would you like to know what you are doing?

This is Dow Jones, "Treasury tax experts are trying to
work out provisions which will preserve the basic policy

of the excess profits tax. This was disclosed last night

by Chairman George following a conference between Treasury
and Congressional spokesmen. The present excess profits

tax law gives corporations exemptions amounting to," and
so forth. "Chairman George said that experts are considering plans to tighten up the excess profits by making other
adjustments which would not require changes in policy. Such
proposals would avoid basic changes in the tax plan. Chairman George says the Treasury plans a withholding tax."

Well, that takes care of that for the moment. Now,
let me take up the next thing, withholding tax.
MR. PAUL: All right.
H.M.JR: Well, I mean, let's keep on and settle one
thing after another. What is the position on the with-

holding tax?

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technical situation on it first. We all, I think -

you (Sullivan) are for the withholding, aren't you,

John?

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, I think I am a little stronger

for it than--

MR. PAUL: We are all pretty strong.

MR. SULLIVAN: I know you are all strong for it,

but I think that is the keystone of any fight against
inflation. The only difference I have with you is on
any kind of enforced saving feature attached to it.
To that I am opposed.

MR. PAUL: Our enforced savings feature was attached
only to the reduction of exemptions.

MR. SULLIVAN: That is right.
MR. PAUL: We have no forced savings feature attached-MR. SULLIVAN: Then, we are in entire accord.
H.M.JR: I thought you did have an enforced savings

on the very lowest level.

MR. PAUL: Only in case we reduced the exemptions.

H.M.JR: I see.
MR. PAUL: It might be that we ought to have some
forced saving in connection with deduction at the source

if we put it on too fast.

H.M.JR: Somebody state the withholding tax thing
for me, will you please?
MR. TARLEAU: Well, we weren't proposing a separate

tax, but we were proposing to collect part of the forty- -

two liabilities in 1942. Let us say that we would start

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July 1 and collect ten percent at the source on a net
amount, that is, on wages and salaries, the ten percent
to be computed after deducting the pro rata part of the
credit exemption for dependents.

H.M.JR: I don't understand that.
MR. TARLEAU: Let us say that a person is paid by
the week, Mr. Secretary. We could divide his personal
exemption on credit for dependents by fifty. You see,

there are fifty-two weeks in the year. Let us say that

would amount to twenty dollars a week, just for conven-

ience. He has paid thirty dollars a week. We deduct
the twenty from the thirty, leaving ten dollars, and we
would collect ten percent of that ten dollars or one
dollar at the source every week.

H.M.JR: His exemption is ten dollars.
MR. TARLEAU: A week.

H.M.JR: And he gets paid thirty.
MR. TARLEAU: Thirty.

H.M.JR: And the difference is-MR. TARLEAU: Ten dollars.

H.M.JR: And you take ten percent of that.
MR. TARLEAU: That is right.
MR. PAUL: We only withhold on the amount over the

exemption.

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H.M.JR: I see. And that is really collecting

taxes in Advance.

MR. TARLEAU: That is really collecting part of his

142 taxes in 1942.

MR. PAUL: It advances the collection date.
MR. TARLEAU From the fifteenth of March to these
weekly payments during 1942,
H.M.JR: Why do you say no?

MR. BLOUGH: I didn't say no. I am sorry.
H.M.JR: Oh, I am sorry.
it?

MR. TARLEAU: That is 8.8 you understand it, isn't

MR...LEUGH: Yes. In other words, you are paying
in 1942 part of what you otherwise would have had to
pay anyway in 43.

H.M.JR: What is the idea of advancing it by six

months, eight and a half months?

MR. SULLIVAN: Because the bill won't be passed

so you can get it into effect and also because they

have got to have the first six months of this year to
pay up tax liabilities that accrued last year,

H.M.JR: They won't pay it up in the first six
months.

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MR. SULLIVAN: Most of the little fellows will.
H.M.JR: Will they?
MR. SULLIVAN: I think so.

H.M.JR: But I mean, what is the idea? Is this a
curb against inflation?
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes.

MR. PAUL: That is the first. There are two or
three reasons for it. One is that by advancing the collections from six months ta a year you have a more immediate
check on inflation. Secondly, with so many millions of
taxpayers as we now have it is just impossible to
enforce the law. A lot of them will get out of it by
not filing returns, but when the employer has to file a
return, we will get the money. The third thing is that
it is on - it saves for these people. They don't get
the money and spend it, it is taken out at the source.
MR. SULLIVAN: It is a very distinct convenience
to the tax payer, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.JR: And you don't want to - out of that
dollar you don't want to set some of it aside in a bond

for them.

MR. PAUL: We haven't contemplated that.

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MR. SULLIVAN: No.

H.M.JR: Do that on a volunteer basis.
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes.

MR. BLOUGH: Unless the personal exemptions were

lowered, in which case we will.

MR. PAUL: That is right, we contemplated that in
connection with the lowering of the exemptions, taking

the sting out of that.

H.M.JR: And then this dollar which he pays in July,
he won't have to pay it again.

MR. SULLIVAN: No, sir. It is not an additional
tax. It is merely a method of collecting what would

otherwise be due March 15 through the year as he earns it.

H.M.JR: I see. So he would be paying - well, you

are advancing the payment date by six months.
MR. BLOUGH: He pays as he goes.

MR. SULLIVAN: By eight and a half months.

MR. PAUL: Yes, that is a good way to put it. Just

like we have been saying we ought to do.

H.M.JR: Is ten percent a good rate?
MR. PAUL: We contemplate holding at the lowest sur-

tax rate, whatever that is. Four percent normal plus
the lowest surtax rate, but we also contemplated there a
flexibile plan whereby you could fix the rate of withholding within limits. You (Tarleau) had a conversation on
that.
MR. TARLEAU: Yes. Mr. Stam felt that - I talked
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he would be willing to see you empowered to fix the rate
of withholding.
H.M.JR: You mean, from one to ten?

MR. TARLEAU: That is right, anything from one to
ten. You might feel ten percent was too much to withhold from the source at this time, and you might want to
withhold only five percent.
H.M.JR: This is against an argument which we sat
around with Barnard on a long time ago. It goes back to

when?

MR. PAUL: We were talking about an entirely different
sort of withholding tax then. We were talking about a
supplementary tax on top of everything else. We are
talking now about an advance in the collections.

H.M.JR: I thought it finally revolved itself that
way.

MR. SULLIVAN: It did, that is right.
H.M.JR: What month was that, November?
MR. SULLIVAN: October and early November.

MR. BLOUGH: It started in October and wound up in

December.

H.M.JR: Well, O.K., I would go along with you on

that, so that is that point.

MR. TARLEAU: I think that will be a very helpful
point because Mr. Stam feels that it would be suitable,
and it has all the advantanges that Mr. Paul outlined to

you.

H.M.JR: Well, I think that is all right. Let's

see, we have got the lowering of exemptions, and we have

got the withholding. What is the next most controversial

one?

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MR. SULLIVAN: Excess profits.
MR. PAUL: Corporate tax.
H.M.JR: Corporate and excess?
MR. PAUL: Yes.

H.M.JR: Let's tackle that. We will clean up some

of these things.

MR. PAUL: The first thing I think we ought to settle
about that is the excess profits rates. We have contemplated in our tentative discussions raising the rates the whole rate schedule. The top rate is now sixty percent. We propose to raise it to seventy-five percent at
the top and correspondingly along the line.
H.M.JR: Oh, the excess?

MR. PAUL: This is only excess profits.
Now, we will come - this corporate tax problem has

several facets. We will come to them. Let's take one at

a time. In the raising of the excess profits tax rates,

that is one of the main items of the corporate tax problem.
H.M.JR: What is it now, the excess?

MR. PAUL: Sixty percent is the top rate. We propose to raise that as high as seventy-five percent which,
with other changes which we will come to later, brings up
the marginal rate problem. Now, the marginal rate under
our present contemplated program is about eighty-five

percent, isn't it, Roy?

MR. BLOUGH: Well, under the one we have in there,

it is higher than that.

MR. SULLIVAN: Eighty-seven and a half.
nine.

MR. BLOUGH: In that one in there, it must be eighty-

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MR. PAUL: That bring up the idea of reducing the
marginal rate by your re-employment plan. That is, hold-

ing that excess over eighty percent top rate in reserve
for the corporation on certain conditions of re-employ-

ment. Now, that is - I don't know, John, I think with
that re-employment, you are not against that, are you?

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, I am. I think that the danger,
and the only danger in our going ahead on these rates

is that we will get up to a rate on the marginal dollar

where the company that is in that highest bracket will
feel, Well, why should I take this extra contract here?
If I make money on it, I am only allowed to retain twelve

and a half percent.' Now, I don't think that is prudent,

Randolph, tc say that we are going to take eighty-seven
and a half percent and give back seven and a half. The

immediate job is to get out production in this war, and
I think it is more important to get your eighty rather
than to take eighty-seven and a half and agree maybe,

if certain things happen sometime later, to give them

back seven and a half.

H.M.JR: But, as I understand it, that isn't correct.
If it is, I misunderstand it. If a company earns a million dollars we don't propose to take eight hundred
seventy-five thousand dollars away from them?

MR. PAUL: No, that is right.
MR. SULLIVAN: That is right.
H.M.JR: So when the sits down to figure - when he

sits down to figure, as I understand the thing, he has

very much more than that left. He may have, on these

figures, as I get it, almost a third of his earnings
left.

MR. SULLIVAN: We are talking about two different
situations, Mr. Secretary.

MR. PAUL: Well, he is right on that.
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, he is right on the point he is

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talking about, but it isn't the point I am talking about.
H.M.JR: Let me just talk about the point you raised.
You said a fellow, if he figures there is only going to
be twelve and a half percent left, why should he take the
contract, and I think that is wrong.

MR. SULLIVAN: No, sir, it isn't, and if you will
let me tell you, I will explain why. Here is a man who,
when he earns a million dollars, gets into the top bracket,
and everything he earns above that he pays eighty-seven

and a half percent on. Now, I am not worried about the
fellow-H.M.JR: Everything above the million?
MR. SULLIVAN: That is right.

H.M.JR: Well, this is right.
MR. SULLIVAN: Yes. Once he gets into the top bracket,
everything he earns above that, under this system, he pays
eighty-seven and a half percent. Now, what I say does not

apply to the concern that hasn't gotten up into the top
bracket. What I say does apply to all the concerns who
are already in the top bracket without taking the additional contracts.

H.M.JR: Well, how do you get the eighty-seven and

a half?

MR. SULLIVAN: Seventy-five percent on excess profits.

Then half of the balance - say he has got a million dol-

lars. Let's suppose this is above the top rate. Seven
hundred fifty thousand of that will go in excess profits.
That leaves two hundred fifty thousand of which fifty
percent will go in your normal and surtax, so that
there will be left a hundred and twenty-five thousand out
of the million.
H.M.JR: No, I don't think that-MR. SULLIVAN: Well, these gentlemen will tell you.

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H.M.JR: I asked to have some examples.
MR. PAUL: We have some.

H.M.JR: Let me have some examples.

MR. BLOUGH: I doubt if there is an example of that

in there. I have got a bunch of examples, but not of that.
H.M.JR: Let me have some examples.

MR. BLOUGH: Look at it this way. Suppose the fellow

already has a million, and he is considering a contract

which will make him another dollar.

H.M.JR: You mean a million net?
MR. BLOUGH: He already has--

MR. PAUL: Let's take a simpler example than that.

Let's get this point clear.

MR. BLOUGH: Suppose he already has a million dollars
and he is considering a contract which will make him

another hundred thousand. Now, on that million dollars
we assume, for the purposes of this example, that he is
paying excess profits tax and that he is up in the top
brackets of the excess profits tax, so that on each ad-

ditional dollar, the maximum rates will apply. Now, if

he makes another hundred thousand dollars and our excess

profits tax rates are seventy-five percent at the top,
then the first thing we will do is to take seventy-five
thousand dollars in excess profits tax. That will leave
him twenty-five thousand dollars. Now, this does not
relate to his - he will have more of that left. This
is the additional hundred thousand dollars. Now, that
twenty-five thousand he has left after the excess profits
tax, I think Mr. Sullivan had in mind a rate of fifty
percent--

MR. SULLIVAN: We all have, Roy.

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... of normal and surtax combined. I

think it will have to be higher than that to make the
three billion.
MR. SULLIVAN: Call it just the fifty.
H.M.JR: Fifty on the-MR. BLOUGH: Fifty of normal and surtax.

MR. PAUL: Fifty on the profits that are left after
the deduction of the excess profits tax.
H.M.JR: Oh, yes. You said he was going to have
another contract which was going to furnish him a hundred

thousand dollars. The excess profits is seventy-five,

which leaves him twenty-five thousand.
MR. BLOUGH: That is right.

H.M.JR: Now, what we are arguing about, what are you

going to do with that twenty-five thousand?

MR. BLOUGH: Take fifty percent of that in normal and

surtax.

H.M.JR: That is Sullivan's point.
MR. BLOUGH: Yes, And that will mean that he will
pay twelve thousand five hundred in normal and surtax,
which, added to his seventy-five thousand excess profits
tax, will mean that on that hundred thousand dollars he

will have a total new tax of eighty-seven thousand five
hundred. He will have left for his wife and kiddies the
twelve thousand five hundred, so that the top rate there,
under that proposal, is eighty-seven and a half percent.

H.M.JR: Well, then, is the whole argument - let
me get this thing straight. Is everybody agreed that the
excess profits should be seventy-five percent?

MR. BLOUGH: No, I don't think Mr. Sullivan agrees

with that.

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MR. SULLIVAN: No.

H.M.JR: I mean, are we arguing about the seventy-

five or what is left afterward?

MR. PAUL: The seventy-five is mostly what brings

up the problem.

MR. SULLIVAN: You can't disassociate these different
factors, Mr. Secretary. The thing that concerns me, I am

willing to go just as far as we can go on corporations,
but
don't think we should get up to a marginal rate
thatI will-H.M.JR: How high would you go-MR. SULLIVAN: Well-H.M.JR:

on the excess?

MR. SULLIVAN: I don't know.

H.M.JR: Well, you ought to know by now, John.

MR. SULLIVAN: I beg your pardon, sir, this is the
toughest one in the whole thing, and I don't think there

is anybody in the room who knows how far we should go.
MR. PAUL: We asked Senator George last night.

H.M.JR: Let's go around, and we will ask you last.
What do you (Paul) think it should be?

MR. PAUL: I am getting very rapidly to the point

with Harry White where I think we can go as high as we

want to go, but we don't want to - we just - the corporations, along with everybody else, have to make things
now to win the war, and I would go, if necessary, to

ninety percent. I don't think we have to. Harry White

said the other day, jokingly, "You go to a hundred percent."
I am just not worrying so much about that with the war

going the way it is now. I think we have got to have more

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to win the war.

H.M.JR: That still doesn't give my answer.
MR. PAUL: I would go eighty-five percent.
H.M.JR: Eighty-five percent excess?

MR. PAUL: Eighty-five marginal dollar rate, yes.
H.M.JR: How much excess profit?
MR. PAUL: Seventy-five.

H.M.JR: And that would make the normal and the -

what is the other tax?

MR. PAUL: Surtax.

H.M.JR: Fifty?
MR. PAUL: That is about - yes. We have another tax

we want to talk about, but the total would be about eightyfive percent marginal dollar rate, or eighty-seven, and
I would go that whole hog. Senator George said last night
he would go eighty-five percent, didn't he, John?
MR. SULLIVAN: Eighty, I think he said.

MR. PAUL: I think he said eighty-five.
MR. SULLIVAN: Anyway, it doesn't make any difference.
H.M.JR: Where would you go, Tarleau?

MR. TARLEAU: If we do the other things that are in
the program, I would go as high as eighty-seven and a half
percent which is what we have outlined here, if we do

the other things in the program. I think we need additional relief for hardship cases in the excess profits
tax. If we do that, I would go up on eighty-seven and a

half percent.

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MR. PAUL: Plus the inventory provision and so

forth.

MR. TARLEAU: Various other revenue provisions in

there to have a fair tax.

MR. PAUL: Plus the re-employment fund return.

H.M.JR: Well, I will come to that.
MR. PAUL: But that affects this question, you see,
because if you take eighty-seven and a half and give
seven and a half back, you are only net taking eighty.

H.M.JR: What you are talking about is this. You
are proposing, I take it, to take eighty-seven and a half
and then set seven and a half in a fund to be paid back

after the war is over, is that right?

MR. PAUL: That is right. That is your re-employ-

ment fund.

H.M.JR: The seven and a half?
MR. PAUL: Yes, whatever figure is necessary to

bring it down to eighty.

MR. TARLEAU: In that example, it would be seven
and a half percent, yes.

MR. PAUL: In the last war we had a marginal rate of eighty
two and a half percent, didn't we?
MR. BLOUGH: I am not willing to go net beyond eighty
percent. If you have this re-employment fund set up

sufficiently definitely that the businesses can count
on it, I am willing to go as high as ninety. I don't
think we should go above ninety even in total, including
everything we take from them.

H.M.JR: You raise the eighty-seven and a half to

ninety?

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MR. BLOUGH: I wouldn't go any higher than we need to

to get our money.

H.M.JR: Let's stick to the eighty. As I understand
it, they say seventy-five percent excess profits, and
these other taxes going up to eighty-seven and a half,

and then we set aside seven and a half in a reserve, and

you say you would be willing to go up to ninety. Give
them a ten percent reserve, is that it?
MR. BLOUGH: You asked my top limits. Those are

my top limits, and I prefer to go below them. Ninety
and eighty would be the top limits, ninety to be taken
away from them and eighty to be kept away from them.

H.M.JR: Well, you are together.
MR. PAUL: We are all together.
H.M.JR: Now where does John come in?

MR. SULLIVAN: Well, the present marginal rate is

seventy-two percent. I would be willing to raise that
to eighty. I think you are biting off your own nose if
you try to take ten more and give it back to them on
certain contingencies. For whatever there may be in
what I say about people not being anxious to earn more

money, you are throwing that away. I don't see the point
of taking an extra ten percent away and then promising
to turn it back to them on some contingency. You see,
the concern who is now in the top bracket, Mr. Secretary,
under the present rates, on a hundred thousand dollars

extra profit, is allowed to retain twenty-eight percent or
twenty-eight thousand. This reduces that from twentysix thousand to twelve thousand five hundred. It cuts it

more than half. So that you are more than halving the
profit a concern can make if he makes a profit on an
additional contract.

Now, I say to cut that down to twelve thousand five
hundred and then to agree to restore seventy-five hundred
at some time in the remote future when, as, and if certain
things happen isn't going to make him feel too good.

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H.M.JR: Well, I happen to be very strong for the

reserve fund.

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, I understand that. I don't.
I would be if we weren't working on such a narrow margin,
but we are on such a terribly narrow margin that I am
afraid concerns are going to be reluctant, concerns who
are in this particular situation are going to be reluatant to take on additional contracts.

H.M.JR: Well, here is the point. I happen to know
a man who works for one of these investment people. He
went out recently into Ohio. We all talk about what we
think and none of us know. This fellow visited two or
three of these tire companies trying to find out - their

attitude was this: "We are so swamped with business we
don't know what to do, and we just have no idea whether we are
making or losing money, and we are not particularly

interested." He visited three of them, their comptrollers,
trying to find out about the tire industry. This happened last week. This was three big ones. This just
happened. I say it is the kind of thing I am always
hungry for. He visited them and said their only worries
were, could they turn out these entirely new things that
the Government had given them, but they weren't - they
just don't know--

MR. PAUL: I think if we don't get that attitude,

we are not going to win the war.

H.M.JR: It was either Goodyear or Goodrich who have
laid off two thousand salesmen and taken one plant down

entirely, the entire machinery and greased it and put it

away. The Government paid them to do that, and they were

putting in - what were they making? It seems impossible.
It was something so foreign to the tire business that
they were making.

MR. SULLIVAN: Tail fins. Tails on airplanes. There
is a big ad in "Life" today or in "Time" yesterday.
H.M.JR: Anyway, it was something quite foreign.

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But that was the thing that he was told by the comptrollers

of these big companies. They were so overwhelmed - they

were just interested in one thing. Every day the Government gives them more business, and they weren't talking

profits at all, John.

MR. PAUL: That is a very promising sign.

H.M.JR: This man visited the three. He visited

Firestone, Goodyear, and Goodrich last week or the week

before. It was within the last ten days. It is just
one case where these people - I suppose those three
together must do quite a tidy business.

MR. PAUL: Well, if we don't all do that, we are
not going to win. We are going to think of the dollars-MR. SULLIVAN: Well, the fact remains there are an

awful lot of people in the country who still are thinking
of it, Randolph. I agree with you that that is the way
things should be, but my only concern with that, Mr. Secretary, is that we mustn't go so far that we will retard
full production.
H.M.JR: Well, I told Nelson to give me a call any day

on the telephone when anything that the Treasury was doing

in any way was retarding his program. I told him that

two weeks ago, and I have yet to get a telephone call

from him.

MR. SULLIVAN: I think Randolph and I ought to try

to have lunch with him on this other thing, this purchasing business. Why don't we put this up to him and see

what he says?

H.M.JR: It is all right.
MR. SULLIVAN: I think we can talk safely with him
on that, don't you, Randolph?
MR. PAUL: Oh, sure.

H.M.JR: I think he should be talked to. I think you

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should also talk to Patterson and Forrestal.
MR. PAUL: All right.
H.M.JR: Because the last word I have got is that
the Army is not cognizant of the fact that Nelson has
made a single change. I only heard that yesterday. As
far as the Army is concerned, they don't know.
MR. SULLIVAN: Want us to introduce him?

H.M.JR: Well, that may sound silly, but that was

practically - I mean, this is in the room. I was told

that Patterson said, "When am I going to hear what Nelson

is doing?" I only heard that last night. He said, "When
am I going to find out what Nelson is doing? As far as
the Army is concerned, we don't know that he is doing

anything." This is in this room. So I don't see why it

wouldn't be a very good idea to get hold of Patterson and
Forrestal and Nelson and say, "We are proposing this
eighty-seven and a half percent with seven and a half
percent in the Treasury on non-interest bearing funds for
these corporations to set the wheels of industry going

when the war is over.

MR. PAUL: I think it would be a good idea. That
is my whole thought all the time, to coordinate with these

other agencies.

H.M.JR: Those would be the three.
MR. PAUL: I know what some of them think already.

H.M.JR: Those would be the three men. They are
responsible for production.

MR. SULLIVAN: That is right, they are the three.

H.M.JR: Why not put it up to them? As of today, I
am all right on the eighty-seven and a half.
us.

MR. PAUL: We can see them as soon as they can see

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after MR.
this. SULLIVAN: That is right. I will call them right

H.M.JR: I think this is a good time to stop right
now. I will give you either nine or ten tomorrow morning.
MR. PAUL: All right. I would like to say that we

have here a program - tax program here in this volume-H.M.JR: Supposing I got an appointment with the

President tomorrow, what would we do?

MR. PAUL: We have some summaries. We have a summary

of our tax program that will have to be changed because
of the reduction of the exemptions.
H.M.JR: Can that be changed?

MR. PAUL: We can do that this afternoon. Then we
have a summary of the principal items, which is three or
four pages. We can even reduce that to a smaller space.

H.M.JR: That is all right.
MR. PAUL: Then we have exhibits and various rate
schedules and material that shows our individual rates.
Then we have over here your statement rewritten and examples

of various types over here. So that is your tax program.
MR. SULLIVAN: Wait a minute, Randolph.

H.M.JR: Let me keep this. I won't get a chance to

look at this until after four. Can I give it to Roy,
if there is any change to be made?

MR. BLOUGH: We would like to have so revisions made
in there.

H.M.JR: Be sure, when I go home tonight, that I get

it, will you?

MR. SULLIVAN: Your personal exemptions have got to

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be changed there, Randolph.

MR. PAUL: Yes, we just mentioned that.

H.M.JR: That is a good job. Let me ask you gentlemen

this. Let me change the subject for a minute. I am talk-

ing Sunday "night at eight o'clock for seven minutes on the

radio with Brother Green of the AF of L, you see. I
haven't looked at the speech yet. He is talking about

seven minutes. He is giving me a whole bunch of checks,

you see. Is there anything that I should talk to labor
about about taxes that I want to kind of get them interested
in? Is there anything we can say?

MR. PAUL: Well, I think you might-MR. SULLIVAN: When is this?

H.M.JR: This Sunday, two days from tonight.
MR. PAUL: Labor pretty well knows.

H.M.JR: Is there anything I don't want to say?
MR. PAUL: I saw Murray the other day at lunch, and
he expressed himself as being pleased.

H.M.JR: I meant on the air. Is there anything I

want to say on taxes?

MR. SULLIVAN: Whatever you say will be incidental,

won't it?

MR. PAUL: I think Sunday night is a bad time.
MR. SULLIVAN: It would be a small part of seven

minutes.

H.M.JR: That is right.
MR. SULLIVAN: I don't think so. I think that sometime pretty soon you had better make a tax speech, but I

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don't think I would want to have you get into an incidental
thing.

MR. PAUL: I think we ought to have a conference
with Green and Murray and Leo Pressman and Hetzel and the
AF of L man. I think you ought to take some time, because

they are going to be our chief supporters.

H.M.JR: I know it. That is why I don't want to
lower the thing. Hetzel will say, "Well, we won't
criticize you much," but he isn't going to say, "We are

coming out for you a hundred percent," but if we leave
out this other thing, we will get some enthusiasm from

him.

MR. PAUL: We are going to get it. I have got a

resolution here passed by them, the CIO--

H.M.JR: But if I made my speech lowering the
exemptions to six hundred dollars-MR. SULLIVAN: Well, the resolution is against lower-

ing it.
H.M.JR: It is?

MR. SULLIVAN: Sure. All the resolutions from labor
that are coming in are against it.
MR. PAUL: The resolution has some point on this
seven and a half percent rate. They recommend increasing
normal taxes, excess profits taxes, taxes on present
individual tax base, I mean by not lowering the exemptions,
closing the loopholes, increased rates, lowered exemptions
on the state taxes and excise taxes on certain luxury things,
and then they come out against the sales tax.
H.M.JR: Who is this?
MR. PAUL: CIO.

H.M.JR: Has that been acknowledged?

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MR. PAUL: Yes.

MR. SULLIVAN: Mr. Secretary, there is one thing
we should talk to you about very soon and that is this

extension of time for filing excess profits tax. The
accounting industry and the corporations themselves are
in a very, very difficult position.

H.M.JR: Well, let's do it at the next meeting we
have. You will get a chance. I will see you again
between now and sunset tomorrow night.

MR. SULLIVAN: That is fine.

MR. PAUL: I would like to leave with you a very

dirty editorial, "Treasury Masterpiece. It is in this
morning's News. I think it is one of the dirtiest editorials I have seen.

H.M.JR: Masterpiece of what?

MR. PAUL: It is against your tax literature.
MR. BLOUGH: Savings Bonds?

MR. PAUL: No, I think it is the tax anticipation.
It isn't quite clear. Yes, it is the Defense Bonds thing.
You don't need to read the whole thing. It is just that
part that is entitled, "Treasury Masterpiece." It is as
dirty as it can be.

H.M.JR: Is that us? That little thing up in the

left-hand corner. Do we get that out?

MR. BLOUGH: He attributes it to us. I don't know.
MR. PAUL: He says we are writing down to the people

as if they were morons. It is unfortunate they should
take that position.

H.M.JR: Look at the stuff today that - I understand
Patterson and this reporter went to Pearl Harbor, and look

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at the report this morning that they are making from

Honolulu. I will look into this. Ask somebody for me no, I will ask Ferdie.

MR. PAUL: All right. I just picked it up this

morning.

H.M.JR: O.K., I'll be seeing you.

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TENTATIVE
T RE A S U R Y TAX P ROGRAM

FEBRUARY 20, 1942

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SUNNARY

C

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February 20, 1942
TENTATIVE TREASURY TAX PROGRAM

Summary

I. Special privilege and hardship
provisions

II. Individual income tax
III. Corporation taxes
IV. Estate and gift taxes
V. Excise taxes
Total

1

765.0

3,000.0
2,830.0
250.0

1,200.0
8,045.0

Less: Allowance for interrelated effects

1,000.0 1

Total

7,045.0

The revenue under I will be higher than
indicated if the rate changes under II
and III are enacted: the revenue under II

will be substantially lower if the rate
changes under III are enacted.

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February 26, 1942
TREASURY TAX PROGRAM

Revenue

(approximate)

in millions
of dollars
3,000

I. Individual Income Taxes
Retain present exemptions

Eliminate earned income credit
Increase rates heavily throughout
schedule

2,830

II. Corporation Taxes
Retain the present excess-profits
tax credit
Increase excess-profits tax rates

by 15 percentage points to a
top rate of 75%
Retain normal tax at 24 percent
Increase surtax (to be designated

"war surtax") to 36% with relief

up to 20% for corporations having
reduced incomes
Smaller rate increases for corporation incomes under $25,000

Repeal capital stock tax and declared value excess-profits tax

III. Estate and Gift Taxes
IV.

250

1,200

Excise Taxes

Distilled spirits increase from $4
to $6 a gallon

Gasoline increase from 180 to 30 a
gallon.

Cigarettes increase from $3.25 per M
to $3.50 per M on 106 brands and
$4 per M on 15c brands
Other excises

V. Special Privilege and Hardship
Provisions
Tax-exempt securities: tax interest
from outstanding and future State
and local securities
Percentage depletion

Joint returns with special relief
for earned income

Capital gains
Life insurance companies
Mutual casualty insurance companies.

254
245

163
508

725

200
80

350
35
30

30

Other

Grand total

Less: Allowance for interrelated effects
Total

8,005
1,005

7,000

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PROGRAM

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February 20, 1942
TENTATIVE TREASURY TAX PROGRAM
Revenue

(approximate

figures to

be revised)

in millions
of dollars

I. Special Privilege and Hardship Provisions
1. Tax exempt securities: Eliminate

200.0

exemption from income and profits taxes with

respect to the interest from all (outstand-

ing and future) State and local governmental

obligations.

2. Percentage depletion

60.0

011 and gas: Limit percentage depletion

for existing properties to 5 percent except
in the cases where intangible drilling costs
have been capitalized, in which event the allowance would be 15 percent; royalty interests to
be excluded from the privilege of percentage
depletion and to be restricted to cost depletion. For new discoveries the rate will be
27 percent to the participants in the discovery, with no option to expense intangible
drilling costs; all other new oil and gas
properties to be subject only to cost depletion.
Other mines: Reduce percentage depletion

allowance to

percent.

350.0
3. Joint returns: Require joint income
tax returns for all married couples, with
relief for the working wife.
4. Capital gains: Long-term capital gains 35.0
to be subject to a maximum effective rate of tax
of 30 percent (instead of the present 15 percent);
capital losses not to be allowed as a deduction
against ordinary income but solely against capital
gains, with excess capital losses to be carried
forward as an offset against future capital gains
for a period of 5 years.

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-25. Life insurance companies: Eliminate

30.0

the double deduction with respect to tax
exempt interest and reduce the reserve earnings

deduction.

6. Mutual casualty insurance companies:

Include in the tax base (a) the dividends paid
to policyholders from investment income and -3
(b) additions to surplus.
7. Bank expenses: Disallow as a deduction

30.0

60.0

against taxable income expenses properly allo-

cable to tax exempt interest.

8. Other: Remove other special privileges

and eliminate hardships and inequities.
Total

765.0

II. Individual Income Taxes

9. Surtax rates: Increase surtax rates

3,000.0

throughout and reduce width of lower surtax
brackets. (ExhibitABC)
D,E

10. Earned income credit: (a) Allow
5 percent for both normal and surtax instead
of 10 percent for normal tax only; (b) eliminate $3,000 minimum and reduce $14,000

maximum to $2,500.

11. Withholding at source: Beginning

July 1, 1942, withhold at source not to exceed
10 percent of wages and salaries in excess of
prorated personal exemptions and 10 percent of
the gross amount of dividends and bond interest,

as partial payment of 1942 tax liabilities.
(ExhibitF-K) For 1942 total withholding about
$1.5 billion.
Total

3,000.0

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-3III. Corporation Taxes (Exhibit L
12. Excess profits tax: Increase rates
)

640.0

by 15 percentage points.

13. Normal tax: Increase normal tax

120.0

rate from 24 to 25 percent.

14. Surtax: For corporations of over
$50,000 increase surtax from 7 to 21 percent,
with smaller increases for corporations with
smaller incomes.
15. War tax: Impose a special war tax
of 10 percent allowing a tax credit of 5 percent of the amount by which the surtax net
income of the taxable year is less than the

1,500.0

750.0

average surtax net income of the years 1936 -

1939.

16. Capital stock tax: Repeal the capital -180.0

stock and declared value excess profits taxes
Total

2,830.0

IV. Estate and Gift Taxes

17. Estate tax rates: Increase rates

throughout. (Exhibit#,N,O)

18. Exemptions: In place of the exist-

ing exemption of $40,000 and insurance exclusion of $40,000, allow a single exemption of

$60,000.

19. Gift tax rates: Increase to three-

fourths of revised estate tax rates.

20. Gift tax exemptions: Reduce exemption from present $40,000 to $30,000. Change

annual exclusion of gifts from $4,000 for each

donee to a single exemption of $5,000.
Total

250.0

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-4V. Excise Taxes

21. Distilled spirits: Increase rate

from $4 per gallon to $6 per gallon.
22. Gasoline: Increase rate from 186
per gallon to 36 per gallon.

245.0

23. Cigarettes: Increase rate from

163.0

24. Other excises. (Exhibit P )

508.0

$3.25 per M. to $3.50 per M. on 10-cent
brands and $4 per M. on 15-cent brands.

Total excises

1,200.0

Grand total

8,045.0

Less: Allowance for interrelated effects
Total

1

284.0

1,000.0 1/
7,045.0

The revenue under I will be higher than indicated

if the rate changes under II and III are enacted;
the revenue under II will be substantially lower
if the rate changes under III are enacted.

62

EXHIBITS

63
LIST OF EXHIBITS

A. Individual income tax: Effective rates for married person

without dependents - 1918 and selected taxable years 1929-141

B. Comparison of individual surtax rate schedule under present
law and proposal to raise approximately $3 billion with
present exemptions

C. Amount of income taxes and effective rates under individual
income tax - present law and provosal. Single person - no
dependents - personal exemption $750.

D. Amount of income taxes and effective rates under individual
income tax - present law and proposal. Married person - no
dependents - personal exemption $1,500

E. Amount of income taxes and effective rates under individual
income tax - present law and provosal. Married person - two

dependents - personal exemption $1,500 - dependent credit $400

F. Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount with-

held at source with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect
for half the year. Single - no dependents - personal exemption $750

G. Comparison of increase in tax under provosal and amount with-

held at source with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect
for a full year. Single - no demendents - personal exemption $750

H. Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount with-

held at source with a 10 percent withholding tax in effect for
a half year. Married - no dependents - personal exemption $1,500

I. Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount withheld

at source with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect for a
full year. Married person - no denendents - personal exemption $1,500

J. Comparison of increase in tax under proposal, and amount withheld at source with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect
for one-half year. Married - two dependents - personal exemption. $1,500; dependent credit $400
K. Comparison of increase in tax under proposal, and amount withheld at source with a 10 percent withholding rate in e ffect
for a full year. Married - two dependents - personal exemption $1,500; dependent credit $400

64
LIST OF EXHIBITS - page 2

L. Proposed corporation tax plan with special var tax

M. Effective estate tax rates before credit for State death
taxes

N.

Comparison of estate tax rate schedule under present law
and proposal to increase the tax yield by approximately
$250 million with $60,000 specific exemption, no exclusion

for life insurance

O.

Comparison of present and proposed estate taxes on net

estates of selected sizes

P. Summary of excise recommendations through February 17, 1942

65

A

INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX
Effective Rates for Married Person without Dependents
1918 and Selected Taxable Years 1929-41

PER

PER

CENT

CENT

90

90

80

80

1940
70

70

1936-39
1941
60

60

1934-35

Proposal

50

50

40

40

30

30

1930-3/
20

20

1929

1918.

10

10

0

0
2

4

6

10

20

40

60

100

200

400

600

1000

2000

4000

NET INCOME IN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Design of Tax Research

B 238-1

I-E-revised

67

B

68
Oseparison of individual surtax rate schedule under present
1gx and proposal to raise approximately $3 billion with
present exemptions

:
:

($000)

Present law

Proposal

:

-

Total surtax cumulative

:

not income

Bracket rate
Present law
Proposal

:

Surtax

.5

$

6%

1

1.5

1

1.5 -

6

6

60

30

60

135

18

90

225

20

120

325

22

210

24

300

545
785

15

6

.5

12%

2

-

9

3

2

-

4

-

6

me

E

6

-

to

27

560

17

30

900

34

13

$

10

21

-

12

25

38

to

10

9

-

14

29

42

34

-

16

32

45

16

-

18

35

48

18

-

20

38

51

20

-

22

41

54

57

12

22

-

26

44

26

-

32

47

60

-

36

50

64

38

-

44

53

44

-

50

55

72

50

-

60

57

76

60

-

70

59

-

80

61

80

-

90

63

82

100

64

84

150
200

65

86

66

86

250
300

67

86

69

86

86

32

70
80

90

100

-

-

150
200

-

250

-

-

300

-

400

71

400

-

500

72

500

-

750

73

750

- 1,000

1,000 - 2,000
2,000 - 5.000
5,000 and over

74

75
76

6g

78

86
86
86
86

86

1,443,780
3.723.780

1,700,285
4,280,285
-

77

86

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-E Rwised - 3

1,320
1,820
2,400
3,040
3,740
4,500
5,320
7,080
9,900
12,900
16,080
19,380
25,080
30,980
37,030
43,380
49,780
82,280
115,280
148,780
183,280
254,280
326,280
508,780
693,780

1,325
1,925
2,605
3,365
4,205
5,105
6,065
7,085
8,165
10,445
14,045
17,885
21,965
26,285
33,885
41,685
49,685
57,885
66,285
109,285
152,285
195,285
238,285
324,285
410,285
625,285
840,285

February 28, 1942

69

c

70
Amount of income taxes and effective rates
under individual income tax - present law and proposal
Single person - no dependents
Personal exemption $750

in tax

:

:

:
$

5

:
3
$

:

:

8
$

Present
:Proposal:
lav
.4%

:

:

: Proposal

law

Increase

:

Present

:

800

:

before
personal
exemption

Effective rates
:

Amount of tax

Net income :

1.0%

Increase in

effective
rates
.6%

$

900

11

24

13

1,000
1,100
1,200
1,500
1,600
2,000
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

21

40

19

1,000,000
5,000,000

31

56

25

40

72

32

69

128

59

79

147

68

117

230

113

165

345

180

221

470

249

347

735

388

483

1,023
1,333
1,990
2,720
3,740
4,888
7,473
10,418
27,715
48,055
69,625

540

649

1,031
1,493
2,178
2,994
4,929
7,224
20,882
36,487
53,214

345,654
733,139

3,923,124

429,610
879,610
4,479,610

684
959

1,227
1,562
1,894
2,544
3,194
6,833
11,568
16,411
83,956
146,471
556,486

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-E Revised-3

1.2
2.1

2.8
3.3
4.6
4.9
5.9
6.6
7.4
8.7

9.7
10.8
12.9
14.9
17.4
20.0
24.6

28.9
41.8
48.6
53.2
69.1
73.3
78.5

2.7
4.0
5.1
6.0
8.5

9.2
11.5
13.8
15.7
18.4
20.5
22.2
24.9
27.2
29.9
32.6
37.4
41.7
55.4
64.1
69.6
85.9
88.0
89.6

1.5
1.9
2.3
2.7
3.9

4.3
5.6
7.2
8.3
9.7
10.8
11.4
12.0
12.3
12.5
12.6
12.8
12.8

13.6
15.5
16.4
16.8
14.7
11.1

February 28, 1942.

71

D

72
Amount of income taxes and effective rates under
individual income tax - present law and proposal
Married - no dependents
Personal exemption $1,500

:
:

6$

16

$

law

-

-

10

.4%

1.0%

SWA

Increase in

effective
rates

-

.6%

13

32

19

.8

1.9

1.1

23

48

25

1.4

32

64

32

42

80

38

3.4
4.0

52

99

47

61

118

57

71

137

66

1.7
1.9
2.2
2.6
2.9
3.2
3.4
4.9
7.2
8.6

862

1.3
1.7
2.1
2.5
2.8
3.1
3.3
3.6
4.6
6.2
7.5
8.7
10.9

2.7

1,130
1,465
1,796
2,446
3,096
6,706
11,426
16,261
83,851
146,381
556,411

13.1
15.7
18.3
23.1
27.5
40.9
48.0
52.7
69.0
73.3
78.5

80

156

76

90

175

85

138

285

249

535

147
286

375

805

430

1,100
1,735
2,435
3,425
4,535
7,060
9,960
27,145
47,425
68,965
428,935
878,935
4,478,935

579

521

873

1,305
1,960
2,739
4,614
6,864
20,439
35,999
52,704
345,084
732,554

3,922,524

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-E Revised-3

Proposal

:

:
-

-

$

in tax

Present

:

law

:

1,000,000
5,000,000

: Increase

: Proposal

:

1,500
1,600
1,700
1,800
1,900
2,000
2,100
2,200
2,300
2,400
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

:

Present

exemption
$

Effective rates
:

Amount of tax

Net income
before
personal

4.7
5.4
6.0
6.5
7.0
9.5

13.4
16.1
18.3
21.7
24.4

27.4
30.2
35.3
39.8
54.3
63.2
69.0
85.8
87.9
89.6

9.6
10.8
11.3
11.7
11.9
12.2
12.3
13.4
15.2
16.3
16.8
14.6
11.1

February 28, 1942

73

E

74
Amount of income to-on and effective rates

under individual income tax present law and proposal

Married person - Two dependents
Personal exemption $1,500, dependent credit $400

1

1

:

:
-

$

6$

10

.3

32

20

.5

29

64

35

58

118

60

154

333

179

271

587

31.6

397

861

464

717

1,472
2,143
3,089
4,167

755

1,1
1.9
3.9
5.4
6.6
9.0
11.2
13.8
16.5
21.4
25.9
39.9

1,117
1,728
2,475
4,287
6,480
19,967
35,479
52,160
344,476
731,930

9,472
26,537
46,753
68,261
428,215
878,215

3,921,884

4,478,215

6,629

1,026
1,361
1,692
2,342
2,992
6,570
11,274
16,101
83,739
146,285
556,331

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-3 Revised-5

-

12

$

: Proposal

Increase in
effective
rates

-

-

16

law

:

:

:

: in tax

:

Proposal

Present

:
:

5,000,000

law

Inclubee

:

2,300
2,400
2,500
2,700
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000
1,000,000

$ Present

Effective rates
:

$

:

exemption

Amount of tax
:

Net income
before
personal

47.3
52.2
68.9

73.2
78.4

-

-

0.7%

1.3
2.4
3.9
8.3
11.7
14.4
18.4
21.4
24.7
27.8
33.1
37.9
53.1
62.3
68.3
85.6
87.8
89.6

.4%
.8

1.3
2.0
4.4
6.3
7.8
9.4
10.2
10.9
11.3
11.7
12.0
13.2
15.0
16.1
16.7
14.6
11.2

February 28, 1942

75

F

76

Comprison of increase in tex under preposal and amount
withhold at courde with a 10 percent withholding sate

in offect for a half you
Single - no dependents
Personal eccemotion $750

: Proposal

:

I

:

8
3

withheld 1 tax : tax

: Increase
in tax

at source twithheld swithheld at
Lat source:

8

5

$

$

3

$

900

1,000
1,100
1,200
1,500
1,600
2,000
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75.000
100,000
500,000

1,000,000
5,000,000

:

line

: of total:increase in

:

: Present

: Percest : Percent of
Amount

:

800

:

$

Amount of bur

:

Net income
before
personal
exemption

11

24

21

40

19

13

31

56

25

18

40

72

32

23

69

128

59

38

79

147

68

43

13

117

230

113

63

165

345

180

88

221

470

249

113

347

735

388

163

483

1,023
1,333
1.990
2,720
3.740
4,888
7,473
10,418

540

213

684

263

959

363

649

1,031
1,493
2,178
2,994
4.929
7,224
20,882
36,487
53,214
345,654
733,139

27,715
48,055
69,625
429,610
879,610

3,923,124

4,479,610

1,227
1,562
1,894
2,544
3,194
6,833
11,568
16,401
83,956
146,471
556,486

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-1 Revised-3

8

463
588
713

963

1,213
2,463
3.713
4,963
24,963
49,963
249,963

37.5%
33.3

32.5
32.1
31.9
29.7
29.3
27.4
25.5
24.0

22.2
20.8
19.7
18.2
17.0
15.7
14.6
12.9
11.6
8.9

7.7
7.1
5.8
5.7
5.6

source

60.0%

61.5
68.4
72.0
71.9
64.4
63.2
55.8
48.9
45.4
42.0
39.4
36.5
37.9
37.7
37.6
37.6
37.9
38.0
36.0
32.1
30.2
29.7
34.1
44.9

February 28, 1942,

76

Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount

withheld at source with a 10 percent withholding rate

in effect for a half year
Single - no dependents
Personal exemption $750

:
:

: Proposal

:

:
$

8
5

$

: of total:increase in
tax

tax

at source :withheld :withheld at
:at source:

:

3

in tax

:

:

law

Increase

:

: Present

withheld

:

Amount

:

800

: Percent : Percent of

Amount of tax

:

Net income
before
personal
exemption

$

3

$

source

37.5%

60.0%

61.5
68.4
72.0
71.9
64.4
63.2
55.8
48.9
45.4
42.0
39.4
38.5
37.9
37.7
37.6
37.6
37.9
38.0
36.0
32.1
30.2
29.7
34.1
44.9

$

900

1,000
1,100
1,200
1,500
1,600
2,000
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

1,000,000
5,000,000

11

24

21

40

19

13

31

56

25

18

40

72

32

23

69

128

59

38

33.3
32.5
32.1
31.9
29.7

79

147

68

43

29.3

117

230

113

63

165
221

345

180

88

470

249

113

347

735

388

163

483

1,023
1,333
1,990
2,720
3,740
4,888
7,473
10,418
27,715

540

213

684

263

959

363

649

1,031
1,493
2,178
2,994
4,929
7,224
20,882
36,487
53,214
345,654
733,139

48,055
69,625
429,610
879,610

3,923,124

4,479,610

13

1,227
1,562
1,894
2,544
3,194
6,833
11,568
16,411
83,956
146,471
556,486

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-E Revised-3

8

463
588
713

963

1,213

2,463
3,713
4,963
24,963
49,963
249,963

27.4
25.5
24.0
22.2
20.8
19.7
18.2
17.0
15.7
14.6
12.9
11.6
8.9
7.7
7.1
5.8
5.7
5.6

February 28, 1942.

G

78

Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount withheld at

source with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect for a full year
Single person - No dependents
Personal exemption $750

Amount of tax

#

800

:

$

law

$

900

1,000
1,100
1,200
1,500
1,600
2,000
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

1,000,000

3$

Increase

in tax

!withheld

:

tion

:

sonal exemp-1

osals

:

before per- Present

: Amount

:

Not income :

8$

at

: source
5

$
5

11

24

13

15

21

40

19

25

31

56

25

35

40

72

32

45

69

128

59

75

79

147

6g

85

117

230

113

125

165

345

180

175

221

470

249

225

388
540

325
425

684

525

959

725

347

735

483

1,023
1,333
1,990
2,720
3.740
4,888
7,473
10,418
27,715
48,055
69,625
429,610
879,610

649

1,031
1,493
2,178
2,994
4,929
7,224
20,882
36,487
53,214

345,654
733.139

1,227
1,562
1,894
2,544
3,194
6,833
11,568
16,411
83,956
146,471

5,000,000 3,923,124 4,479,610 556,486

925

1,175
1,425
1,925
2,425
4,925
7,425
9,925
49,925
99,925
499,925

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-3 Revised-3

:Percent oftPercent of

total tax !increase in

rtthheld :tax withheld
: at source: at source
62.5%

62.5
62.5
62.5
62.5
58.6
57.8
54.3
50.7
47.9
44.2
41.5

39.4
36.4
34.0
31.4
29.2
25.8
23.3
17.8

15.5
14.3
11.6
11.4
11.2

100.0%
115.4
131.6
140.0
140.6
127.1
125.0
110.6
97.2
90.4
83.8
78.7
76.8
75.6
75.4
75.2
75.2
75.7
75.9
72.1
64.2
60.5
59.5
68.2
89.8

February 28, 1942

79

H

80
Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount withheld

at source with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect a half year
Married - No dependents
Personal exemption $1,500
:

Amount of tax

: Amount :of total : increase

:

Proposal
:

1,500
1,600
1,700
1,800
1,900
2,000
2,100
2,200
2,300
2,400
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

1,000,000
5,000,000

-

-

:withheld : tax :

Increase

withheld
in tax :at sourcetwithheld :
:at source: at source
-

10 $

13

32

19

10

23

48

25

15

32

64

32

20

5

42

80

38

25

52

99

47

30

61

118

57

35

71

137

66

40

80

156

76

45

90

175

85

50

138

285

147

75

249

535

286

125

375

805

430

175

521

579

225

862

325

1,305
1,960
2,739
4,614
6,864
20,439
35,999
52,704
345,084
732,554

1,100
1,735
2,435
3,425
4,535
7,060
9,960
27,145
47,425
68,965
428,935
878,935

425

3,922,524

4,478,935

1,130
1,465
1,796
2,446
3,096
6,706
11,426
16,261
83,851
146,381
556,411

873

Treasury Department Division of Tax Research

I-E Revised-3

-

16 $

6$

$

in tax

:

:

law

:

:

Present

: Percent :Percent of

:

Net income
before
personal
exemption

550
675
925

1,175
2,425
3,675
4,925
24,925
49,925
249,925

31.3%

31.3
31.3
31.3
31.3
30.3
29.7
29.2
28.8
28.6
26.3
23.4
21.7
20.5
18.7
17.5
16.1
14.9
13.1
11.8
8.9

7.7
7.1

5.8
5.7
5.6

50.0%
52.6
60.0
62.5
65.8
63.8
61.4
60.6

59.2
58.8
51.0
43.7
40.7
38.9
37.7
37.6
37.5
37.6
37.8
38.0
36.2
32.2
30.3
29.7
34.1
44.9

February 28, 1942

81

82
Comparison of increase in tax and amount withheld
at source with a 10 percent withholding rate

in effect for a full year

Married - no dependents
Personal exemption - $1500

:

-

6$

at source

16 $

10 $

10

62.5%

100.0%

13

32

19

20

23

48

25

30

32

64

32

40

42

62.5
62.5
62.5
62.5
60.6
59.3
58.4
57.7
57.1
52.6
46.7
43.5
40.9
37.5
34.9

105.3
120.0
125.0
131.6
127.7
122.8
121.2
118.4
117.6
102.0
87.4
81.4

80

38

50

52

99

47

60

61

118

57

70

71

137

66

80

80

156

76

90

90

175

85

100

138

285

147

150

249

535

286

250

805

430

350

579

450

862

650

3,922,524

4,478,935

1,130
1,465
1,796
2,446
3,096
6,706
11,426
16,261
83,851
146,381
556,411

850

345,084
732.554

1,100
1,735
2,435
3,425
4,535
7,060
9,960
27,145
47,425
68,965
428,935
878,935

375
521
873

1,305
1,960
2,739
4,614
6,864
20,439
35,999
52,704

fressury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-3 Revised - 3

tax withheld at

-

1

1

-

of total

: source

:

-

1

#

:

1,000,000
5,000,000

:

: Proposal

law

in theld at
: tax :source

$

&

1,500
1,600
1,700
1,500
1,900
2,000
2,100
2,200
2,300
2,400
2,500
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

Increase:with-

:

: Present

: Percent of
!increase in
stax withheld

: Percent

:Amount

:

Amount of tax

:

Net income
before
personal
exemption

1,100
1,350
1,850
2,350
4,850
7,350
9,850
49,850
99,850
499,850

32.1

29.8
26.2
23.6
17.9
15.5
14.3
11.6
11.4
11.2

February 28, 1942

77.7
75.4
75.2
75.1
75.2
75.6
75.9
72.3
64.3
60.6

59.5
68.2
89.8

83

J

84
Comparison of increase in tax under proposal and amount

withheld at source with a 10 percent withholding rate

in effect for a half year

Married - two dependents
Personal exemption $1,500, dependent credit $400
Percent :Percent of
Amount of tax
:

law : Proposal

:

:

:
-

-

-

12

32

20

10

29

64

35

20

58

118

60

35

154

333

179

85

271

587

316

135

861

464

185

755

285

1,026
1,361
1,692
2,342
2,992
6,570
11,274
16,101
83,739
146,285
556,331

385

1,117
1,728
2,475
4,287
6,480
19,967
35,479
52,160
344,476
731,930

1,472
2,143
3,089
4,167
6,629
9,472
26,537
46,753
68,261
428,215
878,215

3,921,884

4,478,215

717

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-3 Revised 3

tax : tax
-

-

10

397

: of total:increase in

at source : withheld:withheld at
:at source: source

16 $

6$

$

track

:

1,000,000
5,000,000

: Increase : withheld

Present

:

2,300
2,400
2,500
2,700
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

: Amount

:

$

:

Net income
before
personal
exemption

$

5

510
635
885

1,135
2,385
3,635
4,885
24,885
49,885
249,885

31.3%
31.3
31.3
29.7

25.5
23.0
21.5
19.4
13.0
16.5
15.2
13.4
12.0
9.0
7.8
7.2
5.8
5.7
5.6

-

50.0%

50.0
57.1
58.3
47.5
42.7
39.9
37.7
37.5
37.5
37.5
37.8
37.9
36.3
32.2
30.3
29.7
34.1
44.9

February 28, 1942.

85

K

86

Comparison of increase in tax under proposal, and amount withhold et souros

with a 10 percent withholding rate in effect for a full year
Married - Two Dependents

Personal exemption $1,500g dependent credit $400

:

:

1,000,000
5,000,000

source

:

$

source

at

:

:
:
-

-

in tax

:

2,300
2,400
2,500
2,700
3,000
4,000
5,000
6,000
8,000
10,000
12.500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

withheld

:

$

at

: increase :

: Proposal

law

tion/

-

-

: tax withhold at

: source
-

-

16 $

10 $

10

62.5%

100.0%

12

32

20

20

29

64

35

40

58

118

60

70

154

333

179

170

271

587

316

270

397

861

464

370

717

1,472
2,143
3,089
4,167
6,629
9,472
26,537
46,753
68,261
428,215
878,215

755

570

1,026
1,361
1,692
2,342
2,992
6,570
11,274
16,101
83,739
146,285

770

62.5
62.5
59.3
51.1
46.0
43.0
38.7
35.9
33.0
30.5
26.7
24.0
18.0
15.5
14.3
11.6
11.4
11.2

100.0
114.3
116.7
95.0
85.4
79.7
75.5
75.0
74.9
75.1

6$

1,117
1,728
2,475
4,287
6,480
19,967
35,479

52,160
344,476
731,930

1,020
1,270
1,770
2,270
4,770
7,270
9,770
19.770
99.770

3,921,884 4,478,215 556.331 499,770

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

I-I Revised-3

total tax !increase in

:

Present

withheld

:

nonal exemp-1

!Percent offPercent of

Amount

:

Amount of tax

:

Not income :
before per-1

75.6
75.9
72.6
64.5
60.7
59.4
68.2

89.8

February 28, 1942

87

L

88

Proposed corporation tax plan

I.

Imposs profits tax

Make as change in the present excess profits credit but
increase the rates of the exess profits tax by 15 percentage

points.

2. Corporation normal and surtax rates
Corporations with not income under $25,000

the

Normal tax

Net income
$

0 - $ 5,000
5,000 - 20,000
20,000 - 25,000

Surbax

15%

168

17

16

19

16

b. Corporations with net income over $25,000

Normal taxi Flat rate of 24 percent
Sartazi
Flat rate of 31 percent
Relief provision: Corporations with current year
surtex not income less than the average surbax not
income of the base period years, 1936-1939, are

allowed a tax credit of 10 percent of the difference,

but not to exceed 20 percent of surbax not income.

This relief provision does not apply to corporations
under a above or e below.

e, Hotch provision - Corporations with not income
elightly over $25,000
Normal taxi Continue 19 percent as bracket rate
Surtaxi
$4,000 plus 60 percent of the excess
over $25,000

Treasury Department

Division of Tax Research

March 2, 1942

89

Comparison of corporation tax plan under present law
and under the proposal

: Present
law

Proposal

:

1. Excess profits credit

a. Invested capital method:
First $5,000,000 of invested capital
Over $5,000,000 of invested capital

8%

8%

7
7

b. Income method:

Portion of average earnings in base
period, 1936-1939

C. Specific exemption

95%

95%

$5,000

$5,000

2. Excess profits tax rates
Adjusted excess profits net income:
First$20,000

$ 20,000 - 50,000
50,000 100,000
100,000 250,000
250,000 500,000
Over 500,000
3.

35

50

40

55

45

60

50

65

55

70

60

75

Income tax

a. Normal tax
(1) Corporations with net income of not
more than $25,000:

First $5,000

$ 5.000 - 20,000
20,000 - 25,000

15

15

17

17

19

19

24

24

15

15

(2) Corporations with net income over
$25,000:

Flat rate
(3) Notch provision - corporationswith
net income slightly over $25,000:
First $5,000
$5,000 20,000
20,000 25,000
Over 25,000

b. Surtax
(1) Corporations with net income of not
more than $25,000:
First $25,000

17

17

19

19

37

19

16

6

(2) Corporations with net income over
$25,000:

First $25,000
Over $25,000

31

6

31

7

(a) Relief provision: Corporations

with current year surtax net income
less
come

for than the the base average period surter years, net 1936- in-

1939. are allowed a tax credit of 10%
of the difference, but not to exceed
20% of surtax net income. This provision applies only to corporations with

net income over $25,000.
(3)

Notch provision - corporations with net
income slightly over $25,000:
First $25,000
Over $25,000

Post-vnr credit

6

7

-

16
60

Tax in excess
of 806 of any

doller of income
Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

March 2, 1942

(Amounts in thousands of dollars)

Net income 2

Excess profits net income
Excess profits credit and exemption

Excess profits tax
Normal tax base
Normal tax

CocaCola

Colt's

E. L du

Patent
Fire Arms

Pont de

$109,964

Nemours

General
Motors

$ 432

$27,043

$8,355

432

26,903
23,757

8,346
5.473

2,313

2,115

432

24,730

6,240

104

5,935

1,498

432

24,730

134

7,666

6,240
1,934

25,193

2,530

7,001
6,613

35,562

4,247
1,374

104,667

30,831

53.709

336,078
217.770

251

3,502

2,109

38,173

88,685

6,733
1,616

32,317
7,756

2,134

71,792
17,230

258,565
62,056

71,792 3/

6,733
2,087

32,317
10,018

2,134

Surtax, gross
Average base period surtax net

661

22,255

258,565
80,155

799

23,819

1,246

64,472

237,175

2,087

Total tax

-

-

Relief for decreased earnings
Surtax, net

-

Glem L.
Martin

$347,250

$4,242

Surtax base

income

Dredge

and

Myers

$35,819

3/

Liggett

: and Dock :

$6,984

512

1 Great
: Lakes
:

Foundry

:

Items

American
Car and

-

2,521
-

1,575
86

46

-

10,018

661

22,255

80,155

48

7,604

1,934

3,954

21,276

3,282

77,658

230,896

151

15,852

5,547

Effective rate (percent)

56.6

59.4

77.4

70.6

66.5

35.0

58.6

66.4

Marginal rate (percent)

86.5

88.8

88.8

88.8

88.8

75.035.0

91.3 4/

88.8

Excess profits credit method

I.C.

Inc.

Inc.

Inc.

Inc.

Inc.

Inc.

Inc.

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

March 2, 1942

Excess profits credit and normal tax rate as under present law, excess profits tax rates increased 15 percent in each bracket;

1

surtax rate increased to flat rate of 31 percent; relief in form of tax credit of 10 percent of amount by which average surtax

2/

3/

net income of base period exceeds current year surtax net income, but not more than 20 percent of surtax net income.
Net income as reported for normal tax in 1940.
Small amounts of taxable interest on government obligations disregarded for surtax purposes.

A higher marginal rate results for companies subject to excess profits tax and eligible for relief in the form of the tax

credit.
CWA

91

M

EFFECTIVE
RATES
Before Credit for State Death Taxes
PERCENT

PERCENT

90

90

80

80

70

70

60

60

50

50

Present Law

Proposal

40

40

30

30

20

20

10
10

o

20

10

Office of the Sec atary of the Treasury
. Tax Research

40

100

200

400

1,000

2,000

4000

o

10.000

20,000

40,000

100,000

NET ESTATES BEFORE EXEMPTION IN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS

B-223-4

E-revised

93

N

94
Commarison of estate tax rate schedule under present law and

pronosal to increase the tax yield by approximately $250 million
with $60,000 specific exemption, no exclusion
for life insurance

:

:
:

Under $5

Pronosal :

8%

3%

10

7

cumilative
Present law
150

$

500

12

5

10

15

11

15

18

15

20

11

20

30

14

22

30

40

18

26

40

50

22

30

50

60

25

33

60 -

70

28

36

100

28

40

70

100

150

30

44

150

200

30

46

200

250

30

48

250

300

32

50

300

350
400

32

52

32

54

400 450 -

450

32

56

500

32

58

500

600

35

60

600 -

700

35

62

700

800

800 -

900

350

900 - 1,000
1,000 - 1,500
1,500 - 2,000
2,000 - 2,500
2,500 - 3,000
3,000 - 4,000
4,000 - 5,000
5,000 - 6,000
6,000 - 7,000
7,000 - 8,000
8,000 - 9,000
9,000 - 10,000
10,000 and over

35-37

64

37

66

37

68

39-42
45

70
72

49

75

53

76

56-59

78

63

79

67

80

70

80

73

80

76

80

76

80

77

80

1,050
1,600
3,000
4,800
7,000
9,500
12,300
20,700
35,700
50,700
65,700
81,700
97,700
113,700
129.700
145.700
180,700
215,700
251,700
288,700
325,700
528,200
753,200
998,200

1,253,200
1,838,200
2,468,200
3,138,200
3,838,200
4,568,200
5,328,200
6,068,200

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

Pronosal

:

law

Total estate tax
:

($000)

Present

:

specific exemo-:
tion 1

Bracket rate
:

Net estate after:

400

$

1,000

1,750
2,650
4,850
7,450
10,450
13.750
17,350
29,350
51,350
74,350
98,350
123,350
149,350
176.350
204,350
233.350
293,350
355.350
419.350
485.350
553,350
903,350

1,263,350
1,638,350
2,018,350
2,798,350
3,588,350
4,388,350
5,188,350
5,988,350
6,788,350
7,588,350
-

-

February 19. 1942.

A specific exemption of $40,000 and a life insurance exclusion of
$40,000 are allowed by the present law. The proposed law would
allow a single specific exemotion of $60,000 but no life insurance
exclusion.

1

95

96
Comparison of present and proposed estate taxes on

net estates of selected sizes

Net estate :

Amount of tax
Increase

:

Proposal

law

$10,000 life:

in

tax

:

including

: Present

:

:

exemption;

:

specific

Effective rate
:

before

Present

:Increase

:in of-

Proposal

law

:fective
: rates

insurance 1/
($000)

:
$

500

-

$

70

90

100
150
200

400
600
800

1,000
2,000
4,000
6,000
10,000
20,000
40,000

1,600
4,800
7,000
20,700
35,700
97,700
163,200
233,200
307,200
730,700

1,808,700
3,104,700
6,050,200
13,749,700
29,149,700

$

1,000
4,850
7,450
25,350
46,950
144,150
257,350
380,950
512,550

1,220,150
2,751,550
4,340,350
7,540,350
15,540,350
31,540,350

-500
-600
50

950

5,650
11,250
46,450
94,150
147,750
205,350
489,450
942,850

1,235,650
1,490,150
1,790,650
2,390,650

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research
1

.8%

2.3
5.3
7.0

13.8
17.9
24.4
27.2
29.2
30.7
36.5
45.2
51.7
60.5
68.7
72.9

:

60
$

-

1.4%

-.8%

-.9

5.4

.1

7.5
16.9
23.5
36.0
42.9

.5

47.6
51.3
61.0
68.8
72.3
75.4
77.7
78.9

3.1

5.6
11.6
15.7
18.4
20.6
24.5
23.6
20.6
14.9
9.0
6.0

February 19, 1942

It is assumed that all of the insurance would have been excluded under the
present act. The proposal would allow a single specific exemption of
$60,000 but no life insurance exclusion.

E-E- Revised

97

P

1/
7.8

6.7
49.9

46.6

24.5

18.7

11.2

(In millions)

)

) )) ) )

)

)

)

188.6

}

$
in

26.8

13.1

146.9

279.7

revenues

increases
Estimated

45.3

94.8

25.0
117.1

242.2

$ 1,344.9

5é tax

15c

rate and base

Recommended tax

99c

.
gas used in unbottled drinks

tailing at not more than 10c:
based on 16 per bottle re-

tubes 1/2 per 25 papers or tubes

5 per half-pint

5 per half-pint
25 or fraction thereof

$3.50 per M - 10-cent brands:

25 to 396

10% of amount paid

40g . 646 106

656

5p additional tax for each

15% of charge

15% of charge

10% of bill

3/ per gal.

10% of service charge

106 per gal.

$8 per bbl.

15 per gal.

$6 per gel.

50 per gal.

b. 806 per 1b. of carbonic acid

15% manufacturers' sales price

$4.00 per M - 15-cent brands

No exemption: tax all papers and

366 per 1b.

New schedule 2/

a. Schedule for bottled dr oks

15% on transportation;

106 per half-pint

25% manufacturers' sales price

100/6 per gal.

None

Exise Tax roposals

None

Present tax

7$ per half-pint
sales price

10% Banufacturers'

Schedule

24-50 tax 5%

41% of amount paid

additional 5$ tax

on each 50

10% of charge

6% of bill

11/6 per gal.

Exempt

4 per gal.

30c per gal.

$6 per bbl.

86 per gal.

65/ per gal.

3 per half-pint

3 per half-pint

18é per 1b.
$4 per gal.

$3.25 per M.

Rate schedule
5% of amount paid

10% of charge

Total

Article

under 256

Not more than 14% alcohol

14-21% alcohol
More than 21%

Still wines

a Telephone toll service

c. Leased wires, etc.
b. Telegraph, cable

d. Local telephone bill

Sparkling wines

Artificial carbonated wines

Liqueurs, cordials, etc.

e. Coin-operated telephone

for the initial impact of the imposition of the angmented rates.

E, 10.1-15 A, tax $15.00 Ms T, 15.1-204, tax $20.00 Ms G, 20.1-30 tax $25.00 Ms H, 30.1 and over, tax $40.0020% on seats and berths

10. Carbonated soft drinks

Class retail price 25% tax $2.50 M; B, 5/2 tax $5.00 M: C, 5.1-8, tax $7.50 Ms D, 8.1-10d, tax $10.00 Ms M.

6. Beer

4. Gasoline
1. Photographic apparetus

2. Transportation by pipe line

3. Communications

5. Lubricating oil

8. Distilled spirits

7. Wines:

9. Transportation of persons

1/ Estimated full year effect of indicated excises at estimated fiscal year 1943 levels of business after allowing

12. Cigars
11. Cendy and chewing gun

13. Smoking tobacco

14. Cigarettes

15. Cigarette papers and tubes

2/

99

Comparison of individual income tax rates, examp and credits under present and proposed
United States law and under the leave of Canada and Great Britain

United States
present law

United States
proposal
a

a

Normal tax

Canada

Great Britain

present law 1/

present law 2/

15% on first $1,000 in excess of
exemptions to 85% on not income

50% -

reduced rate of 3216 on first $660

in excess of $500,000
Surfax rates:

10%

Maximum rate

Minisus rate applies to
Maximum rate applies to

12%

is

Minimum rate

47.9%

86%

77%

$8,000 $10,000

to $2,000

to $500

Over $5,000,000

Over $100,000

Over $80,000

Personal exemptions and

credit for decendents 3/

$ 750

Single person
Married person

1,500
400

Each dependent

Earned income credit

10% $1,400

Special income taxes
National Defence tax

(collected at source)

$ 750

$ 750

$320

1,500

1,500

560
200

400

400

-

--

10% maximum $600

For single persons 4/
5% of gross income if over $660 per
year and not in excess of $1,200 per
year or 7% if gross income exceeds
$1,200 per year.

For sarried person: N
5% of gross income if over $1,200 per

year with a tax credit of $20 for each
dependent.

Surtax on investment income

46 on amount is excess of $1,500 or

personal exemption and credit for
dependents if in excess of $1,500
The difference between the tax (at

Position credit

above rates) computed on the basis

of (a) prior 1 personal

examptions and credite and (b) the

present escaptions and credits 5/
February 27. 1942

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research
1/ Income War Tax Act of 1941.
2/

British Finance Act (No. 2) of 1940 and Finance Act of 1941. Found converted at $4.

3/ In the case of Great Britain, personal exemption and credit for dependents are allowed for a top purposes only.
# In no case shall the tax reduce the income of a single person below 1660 or if merried below $1,700.

5/ The post-mar credit is limited as follows (a) all earned income 160 (8740) for single person and 165 (8760) for . married person:
(b) all investment income. 130 (440) for a single person and 115 ($60) for . arried person.

101
Comparteen of individual surtex rate echedules under present and proposed United States law.
and under the less of Canada and Great Britain

250

20

350

56

25

765

30

-5

0
1

210

22

600

-

$

1.5

1.5
1.5

-

--

20

325

2

225

20

120

,

18

90
1.5

.5

-5

-

150

2

15

-

135

--

15

($000)

1

125

classes 1/

fumulative 3/

75

to

to

#

-5-

196

.

60

Rate

realative

camilative

cumulative
64

tax

Net income

-

Date

,

1,230

27

730

30

1,625

30

1,925

to

900

1,100

*

2,265

42

2,605
3,365
4,205

44

-

560

33

-

1

.

7

-

-

-

2.370

7

1,970

-

1,590

38

-

16

2

-

9

,

2

4
2
1
1

17

-

17

900

-

13

27

3

a

1,055
1,325

430

-

300
13

4

($000)

Bill

airlas

Rate

arriax

Total
exzies

-

classes 1/

Total

Great Britain, present
(Fleance (00.2) Act, 1940)

-

Total

(Schedule Han 3): War Tax Ass, 1941
2/
Total

0

Net Income

- United States, yroposal: Cennita, present (Income

1

United States, present
MM 1941

7
53

53

16,080

by

26

30

12

47

M

50

32

to
38

14

-

to

44

50

60

19,380
25,080

55

57

50

to

30,980

TO

52

34,030

61

70

75

so

61

75

90

80

100

90

100

150
200

150

63

a

5
a

200

250

250

300

69

300

400

71

loo

500
750

500

.

750

1,000

1,000

67

72

73

74

2,000
72

2,000
Over

5,000
5,000

it

37,060
43,380
49,780
62,280

115,280
148,750
183,250
254,280

326,260
506,760
693.780

1,443,780
3,723,780

77

16.25

1,075

7,080

21.25

1,500

16

8.060
9,140
10,200

21.25

1,925
2,425

18

25

2,925

22

11,260
13,380
14,460
17,760

28.75
26.75

3,500
4,650

24

26.75

5,225

to

32

7,325

32

34

8,025

38

*
57

9,305
10,445
12,845

57
60

60

14,045

a

17,885
19,245

68

68

72

76

78

so

so

50

53
53

53

53

FISH

59
59

45,665

59

49.685

61

33.655
41,685

57
57

84

57.89
66,28

86

109,285

67

86

152,285

70

82

63

63

39,330

45

23,025

42.460
48,780
55,060
88,580
123,580

60

60

70

75

TO

75

80

so

90

90

100

100

150

150

200

571,080

47.50

343,525

783,580

47.50

462,275

1,633,580
4,183,580

47.50
47.50

937,275

2,362,275

2,000

5,000

Over

5,000

85

640,285

85

86

50

50

47.50
47.50

625.285

85

M

250

86

85

82,275

to

300

86

86

34.775
58,525

#

30

250

358,580

85

25,275
30,025

40

26

200

80

1,700,255
4,280.265

47.50
47.50
47.50
47.50

26

24

106,025

so

86

45

20

22

20

129.775
177,275
224.775

410.20

#6

16,275

36,380

#6

75

9.675

12,150
20.775

161,080
198,580
278,580

75

41.25

41.25
41.25
45

195.285
238,205
324,285

86

#6

35

18,880

55

21,160
24,580
30,460

21,965
26,285

25

18

-

30

7,080
8,960
9,900
12,900
13,960

44

6,080

50

-

26

-

*

be

a

16

50

6.065

-

5,320
6,200

a

22
20

22

15

5,105
7,085
8,165

51

15

-

4,500

20
14

16.25

5,580

-

35

14

14

-

#

-

3.740

18
16

12

47

4,655

48

750
913

-

3,040

45

32

16
15

16.25

12

-

.
-

32

2,720

is

15

by

10

-

9

14

42

425

-

2,400

$

1,820

$

25

29

10

200

11.25

9

12

14

&

12

100

-

10

47

10
10

-

1,320

21

10

2,790
3,230
4,170
5,110

9

21

47.50
47.50

47.50

300

400

400

500

500

750

750

1,000

1,000

2,000

February 27, 1942

Treasury Department Division of Tax Research

1/

For Income the before United States and Canadian lease, not Income after personal exemption and credits for dependents: for Great Britain, not
the exemption and credit for dependents.
are
2/ Semedian rates personal
addition to the above rates basic there rates is applicable also to individual not income is excess of personal exemption and credit for dependents. In
y Pound $1,500 converted (or the - at 44. of a taxpayer's normal imposed exemption . surfax if higher of 4 percent than $1,500). on investment income applicable to such income is excess

of

102
INDIVIDUAL INCOME SAX

Comparison of individual income taxes under present and proposed United States Lane and under the
1mm of Dansda and Groad Britaia

Single Person - No Dependents

1

7.6

8

I

1
$

:

1

I
$

24

2.7

1,000
1,100
1,200

21

2.1

40

4.0

88

31

2.5

56

5.2

106

40

3.3

72

6.0

128

4.6

128

8.5

216

147

9.2
11.5

240

23.8
15.7

475

12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000

50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000
1,000,000
$,000,000

3/

130

16.3%

159

17.7

900

8.8

189

16.9

9.8

220

20.0

10.7

265

22.1

1,000
1,100
1,200

14.5
15.0
17.0
19.0
20.8

400

8

:

900

1.2

4,000
3,000
6,000
8,000
10,000

rate

$

:

6.0%

68

1

lig

Bar

500

3

11

1,500
1,600
2,000
2,500
3,000

rate

exemption

Amount of Deffective:
1

1.04

tax

personal

1

8

rate

var credit)

:

Amount of diffective Amount of diffective
tax

(includes poor-

Net income
before

3

:

I

.4%

present Lane 2/

I

800

rate

(2-3) Revised-3)

Great Britain
present Lear 3/

:

1

tax

:
:
:
:

1/

I

Amount of diffective :

:
:

exception

proposal

Danada

I

present Law

United States

1

before
personal

United States

1

Ert inconclusive

69
79

4.9

117

2-9

230

165

2.6

345

221

7.4

470

347

8.7

735

483

9.7

1,023

6kg

10.8

1,333

1,031
1,493

12.9
14.9

1,990
2,720

2,178

17.4
20.0
24.6

3,740
4,888

2,994
4,929
7.224
20,682

7.473

18.4
20.5
22.2
24.9
27.2
29.9

32.6
37.4

41.5

10,418
27,715

41.7
55.4

36,487

48.6

48,055

53,214

53.2

69,625

345,654

9.1

429,610
879,610

64.1
69.6
85.9

733,139

3,923,124

28.9

73.3
78.5

4,479,610

ensury Department, Division of Tax Research

88.0
89.6

340

623

445
625

26.7
27.8
32.3

1,075

34.0
35.8

850

1,500
1,600
2,000
2,500
3,000

4,000
5.000

955

23.9

1,333

26.7
29.0
32.9

1,525
1,975
2,425

38.1
39.5
40.4

3,425

42.8

6.000
5,000

36.0

4,625

46.3

10,000

39.4
41.9
45.5
46.3
56.8

6,181
7,837

49.4

12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000

1,740
2,630
3,600
4,928
6,278
9,105
12,083

28,393
45.878
64,348

61.2

421,720

64.3

11,350
15,137
36,575

52.2
56.8
60.5
73.2

59.950
84,200

84.2

82.3

691,683

5.2

474,200
961,700

4,731,683

94.6

4,861,700

79.9

94.8
96.2
97.2

75,000
100,000
500,000

1,000,000
5,000,000

February 28. 1942

In calculating the taxes under present United States and British Lear maximum earned income is assumed.
No earned incone credit is allowed under the United States proposal. In the Canadian calculations
all income in excess of $30,000 is assumed to be investment income.
Includes national defence tax and surtax on investment income.
Unlike the United States and Guidding, British personal exemptions and credit for dependents are
allowed for normal tax purposes only. Pound converted at 84.

103
INDIVIDUAL INCOKE TAX

Comparison of individual income taxes under present and proposed United States
Last and under the lave of Canada and Great Britain
Married person - no dependents

-3)

present late

(includes post-war
credit)

:

I

5.06

$

.

75

1/

250

18.7%

325

20.3

$

-

I

:

-

$

I

-

$

:
1

.6

32

1.9

115

370

21.8

48

2.7

135

7.5

415

23.1

32

1.7

64

3.4

155

8.2

460

1,900

24.2

2,000
2,100
2,200
2,300
2,400

42

2.1

so

52

2.5

99

25.3
26.2
27.0

2,500
3,000
4,000

6

13

16

.46

1.0%

95

4.0

175

8.8

505

195

9.3

550

215

9.8
10.2

595

235

640

27.8

685

28.5

2,000
2,100
2,200
2,300
2,400

3,000
4,000
5,000

61

2.5

118

71

3.1

137

4.7
5.4
6.0

80

3.3

156

6.5

255

10.6

90

3.6

175

7.0

275

11.0

730

138

4.6

265

400

13.3

955

249

6.2

535

9.5
13.4

675

7.5
8.7

16.1

1,000

16.9
20.0

1,405

805

1,855

29.2
31.8
35.1
37.1

1,100

16.3

1,365

22.8

2,305

38.4

6,000

1,735
2,435

21.7
24.4
27.4

27.3
30.8
34.6
37.5

3.305
4,505
6,061
7,717
11,230

41.3
45.1
48.5
51.4

5,000
10,000
12,500
15,000
20,000

15,017
36,455
59,830
84,080
474,080

60.1

375
521

18.3

4,535

30.2

20,000

1,305
1,960
2,739
4,614

2,180
3,050
4,325
5,625

23.1

7,060

35.3

8.330

41.7

25,000

6,864

27.5

9,960

39.8

44.7

20,439
35,999
52,704
345,084

40.9

45.0

27,145
47,425

52.7
69.0

68,965
428,935

54.3
63.2
69.0
85.8

11,185
26,965
43,935
61,875
401,120

732,554

73.3

878,935

87.9

871,045

87.1

961,580

3,922,524

76.5

4,476,935

89.6

4,631,045

92.6

4,861,580

$

15,000

50,000
75,000

100,000
500,000

1,000,000
5,000,000

1,500
1,600
1,700
1,800
1,900

$

I

-

rate

:

rate

1.3

8,000
10,000
12,500

personal

:

tax

23

5,000
6,000

Net income

I before

Amount of:EffectivetAmount
offEffective AmounttaxofiEffective1Amount
of1Effectivelexemption
rate
tax
rate
tax
5.9
6.8

1,700
1,800

873

10.9
13.1
15.7

3,425

Cressury Department, Division of Tax Research
1/

present last

:

1

:

1,500
1,600

#

1/

:

exemption

#proposal(I-I Revised:

I Great Britain 3/
Canada 2/

:

before

personal

United States

:

Net income

United States
present law

53.9
58.6
61.9

80.2

2,500

56.2

94.8

25,000
50,000
75,000
100,000
500,000

96.2
97.2

1,000,000
5,000,000

72.9
79.8
84.1

February 28. 1942.

It calculating to tame under present United Stat " and British law maximum earned income is assumed. No
earned incoue credit is allowed under the United states proposal. In the Canadian calculations all incone in excess of $30,000 is assumed to be investment income.
Includes national defense tax and surtax on investment income.
Unlike the United States and Canadian, British personal exerction and credit for dependents are allowed for
normal tax purposes only. Pound converted at $4.

104

Individual Income Tax

Comparison of individual income taxes under present and proposed United States law
and under the laws of Canada and Great Britain
Married person - Two dependents

:

Effect

dependent

$

-

16

2,300
2,400

2,500

$

4.6

530

1.1

5.7

620

21.2
23.0

3.9

215

7.2

755

25.2

8.3

450

11.3

735

14.7

1,205
1,655

30.1
33.1

35.1

1,842
2,710

23.0
27.1

2,105
3,105
4,305

5,000
6,000

38.8
43.1

10,000

3,909

31.3

5,861

34.7

7,517

46.9
50.1

11,030
14,817
36,255

55.2

26,437

39.5
42.9
52.9

43,391
61,299

57.9
61.3

400,408

80.1

870,293

87.0

59,630
83,880
473,880
961,380

79.5
83.9
94.8
96.1

1,000,000

4,630,293

92.6

4,861,380

97.2

5,000,000

:
:

:

6

$

4,000

154

3.9

333

5,000
6,000
8,000

397

10,000

1,117

12,500
15,000
25,000

1,728
2,475
4,287
6,480

50,000

19,967

75,000
100,000

35,479

3,921,884

20.2

155

1.9

52,160
344,476
731,930

19.1%

64

58

717

440

485

115

3,000

271

95

$

1.3
2.4

32

118

29

TX

3.3%
4.0

75

$

3%
.5

2,500
2,700

$

500,000
1,000,000
5,000,000

war exemption &

Amount

:

-

12

20,000

I before

ipersonal

1 rate 1 of tax live rate: of tax live rates of tax live rates credit

tax

-

2,300
2,400

:Effect

Amount

Net income

:

Effect

:

:

:

(I-3 Revised-3)
Amount

Canada 2/

:
I
:

proposal

:

:

Amount of:Effective

:

dependent

present less

:

personal
exemption &

credit 1/

United States

present law
(includes poste

:

before

United States

Great Britain

:

Net income :

5.4

6.6
9.0
11.2
13.8
16.5
21.4
25.9
39.9

47.3
52.2
68.9

73.2
78.4

587 11.7
861 14.4
1,472 16.4
2,143 21.4

3,089 24.7
4,167 27.8
6,629 33.1
9,472 37.9
26,537 53.1
46,753 62.3
68,261 68.3
428,215 85.6
878,215

4,478,215

87.8
89.6

1,070 17.8

5,209
7,890
10,721

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

2,700
3,000
4,000

8,000

12,500
15,000
20,000
25,000
50,000

59.3
72.5

75,000
100,000
500,000

February 28, 1942

1/ In calculating the taxes under present United States and British law saximum earned the income is
assumed. No earned income credit is allowed under the United States proposal. In
Canadian calculations all income in excess of $30,000 is assumed to be investment income.

2 Includes national defense tax and surtax on investment income.
3/ Unlike the United States and Canadian, British personal exemption and credit for dependents
are allowed for normal tax purposes only. Pound converted at $4.00.

105

British and Canadian corporation income and excess profits taxes.

British corporations are subject to the income tax and either
the National Defence Contribution or the excess profits tax, whichever
is greater.

The income tax rate is 50 percent on net income (after excess profits
tax or National Defence Contribution.) The corporation income tax rate
is the same as the standard rate applicable to individuals. Corporations
may reimburse themselves for the income tax when distributing earnings to
shareholders. Corporations are, therefore, merely the withholding agents
with respect to the standard rate of 50 percent on dividends.
The National Defence Contribution rate is 5 percent on net income
(before deduction of income tax and excess profits tax).

The excess profits tax rate is 100 percent on profits (before income
tax and National Defence Contribution) which exceed the profits for 1935,
1936, the average of 1935 and 1937 or the average of 1936 and 1937.
Under the Finance Act of 1941. 20 percent of the net amount of excess
profits tax paid by every concern (after deducting any repayment on ao-

count of deficiencies) is treated as a credit to be refunded to the tax-

payer after the war at such date as Parliament may determine.

Canadian corporations are subject to an income tax of 18 percent

(20 percent for corporations filing consolidated returns) and an
excess profits tax. The excess profits tax rate is 75 percent on profits
in excess of average profits for 1936-1939 (after deduction of income tax
thereon) or 22 percent on current year net income (before deduction of
income tax thereon) whichever results in the greater tax. Businesses
with profits of $5,000 or less, before shareholders' or partners' and
proprietors' salaries, drawings or other payments are exempt from the
excess profits tax.

The income and excess profits tax rates applicable to corporations
in the United States under present and proposed Federal law and under
the British and Canadian laws are shown in the following table:

10G

ComparAson of corporation income and excess profite

tax rates in the United States Quint Bettain and Canada.

31% 3/

I

Present Lear

Proposal

:

:
$

Income tax

United States (Federal)

Grost Britasa
50% 3/

55% 2)

(for corporations with normal

Minimum under excess

profits tax

Excess profits tax

5

35% - 60% 4/

55% 3/

55%

50% 75% 4/

100% of 0XC000

Tax in at-

1

40%

75% of excess

not incous
whichever is
greater,

ever is

0009 of 806

lar of in

tax paid

come I/

22

prerice 6/

20% of the not
amount of ex-

on any dol-

for corporations

profite 5/ or
5 percent of

Post-var credit

10% (20%

date& returns)

$25,000)

32% 2/

Canada

filing consoli-

tax not income of a they

Total income tax

3

or 22% of net
income which

greater

CODE profits
8

Includes 24% normal tax and surtax of 7%

Includes 24% normal tax and surtax of 32% If current year martax net
income is less than the average surtax not income of the base period
years 1936-1939 a tax credit equal to 10% of the difference is allowed.
The credit is limited to a maximum of 20% of current year surtax not Lean
come.

5/

The corporation may reinburse itself for the tax when distributing earnings
to shareholders. The corporation, therefore, is merely the withholding
agen with respect to the standard rate of 50% on dividends.
The excess profits tax ib imposed at graduated rates on excess profite
net income in excene of (a) a credit of 95% of the average earnings for
1936 - 1939 or 85 on the first $5,000,000 of invested capital and 7% on
the balance, whichover is greater, and (b) n specific exemption of $5.000g
The exceed profits tax is impoood on the excess of profits of the taxable
year over profits for 1935 1936, the average of 1935 and 1937 or the
average of 1936 and 1937

6,

The excess profits tax is imposed on excess profite not income in 020008
of the average profits for 1936-1939.

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I

Such amounts are to be held by the Government to the account of the

corporation and be returnable within a limited period after the war,
in those cases where it is spent for new and additional capital

equipment or otherwise is spent in the additional employment of
labor.

8/

After deducting any repayment on account of deficiencies. The amount

of the credit is to be refunded to the taxpayer after the war at such
date as Parliament may determine.

Treasury Department

Division of Tax Research

February 27. 1942.

Amount and percent of corporation profits remaining after
individual income tax and corporate income and excess
profits taxes in the United States under present law
and under proposed 1942 plan, and in Great Britain

108

and Canada 1

I.

Amount of corporation profits remaining after individual

income tax and corporate income and excess profits taxes
:

:

:

:

United States,
present law 2
United States,

Shareholder's income from other sources
None : $5,000 : $10,000
$50,000
$100,000
$841

$718

$631

$345

$269

512

368

317

61

Great Britain 3

123

500

500

387

87

25

Canada 4

900

537

433

306

252

pronosal 2

II. Percent of corporation profits remaining after individual

income tax and corporate income and excess profits taxes
: Shareholder's income from other sources
:

$5,000

$10,000

:

United States,
present law 2
United States,

56.1%

47.9%

42.1%

Grent Britein 3

34.1
33.3
60.0

24.5
33.3
35.3

21.1
25.8
28.9

pronosal 2

Canada 4/

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

:

None

$50,000

: $100,000

23.0%

17.9%

8.2
5.8

4.1
1.7

20.4

16.8

March 2, 1942

Basis of commutation: It is assumed that the cormoration has
current year profits of $1,500,000 and average base year earninge of $1,000,000; that the concent of income in the same in
the United States, Great Britain end Console: that the corpora-

tion's excess profits credit is determined on the basis of

average earnings during the base period: that the cormoration

distributed all of its profits efter taxes and that the share-

holder in the examples has A 1/10 of 15 equity in the income
of the corporation.
Present law. Revenue Act of 1041: pronosal. for individual
income tax surtex Schedule I-E. revised-? is substituted for
present schedule and the earned income credit is eliminated;
and for cornersions, excess profits credit same 28 under present law, retes increased by 15 percentage points and surtax

rate increased to flat rate of 315.

Finance Act of 1041.
Income War Tax Act of 1941.

1

Commarison of the interlocking effects 01 he individual income tax and corporation income
and excess profits taxes in the United States under present law and under the proposed 1942
plan, with British and Canadian systems
1

:Shareholder with no income from other sources
Canadian
5

3

:

1,500

1,500

1,500

1,500

659

988

1,000

600

841

512

500

900

-

-

2. Total corporation income and excess

profits tax on share
3. Amount available for distribution by
corporation to shareholder 7 (1-2)
4. Individual income tax on share of
profits received from corporation
5. Total tax on share of corporation
profits (2+4)
6. Amount of profits remaining after
corporation and individual taxes (1-5)
7. Profits after taxes as a percent of
profits before taxes (6+1)

British
:

1. Amount of share in corporation profits
before corporation taxes 6

:

: Present : Proposal
: law 2

:

: United States

-

-

659

988

1,000

600

841

512

500

900

56.1%

34.1%

33.3%

60.0%

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

February 27, 1942.

Basis of computation: It is assumed that the corporation has current year profits of

1

$1,500,000 and average base year earnings of $1,000,000; that the concept of income is the
same in the United States, Great Britain and Canada: that the corporation's excess profite
credit is determined on the basis of average earnings during the base period; that the

corporation distributes all of its profits after taxes and that the shareholder in the ex-

amples has a 1/10 of 1% equity in the income of the corporation.

Revenue Act of 1941.

2

Pronosals: For corporations, excess profits credit as under present law, excess profits rates
increased by 15 percentage points, normal tax as under present law, surtax rate increased to

a flat rate of 313; for individuals surtax Schedule I-E, rev. 3. substituted for present
schedule and the earned income credit eliminated.

4

5

Finance Act of 1941. The corporation excess profits tax is before post-var credit and the
amount of individual income tax on share of profits from corporation is the surtax only.
The standard rate is withheld at source by corporations.
Income War Tax Act of 1941.

6 Assumed to be 0.1% of current year earnings of corporation.

Assuming full distribution of profits

Comparison of the interlocking effects of the individual income tax and corporation income
and excess profits taxes in the United States under present law and under the proposed 1942
plan. with British and Canadian systems 1
Shareholder with $5,000 from other sources

: Present : Proposal :
3/
: law 2/

British

Canadian

4

:

United States

5

:

:

1. Amount of share in corporation profits

before corporation taxes 6
2. Total corporation income and excess

profits tax on share
3. Amount available for distribution by
corporation to shareholder 7 (1-2)
4. Individual income tax on share of
profits received from corporation
5. Total tax on share of corporation
profits (2+4)
6. Amount of profits remaining after
corporation and individual taxes (1-5)
7. Profits after taxes as a percent of
profits before taxes (6:1)

1,500

1,500

1,500

1,500

659

988

1,000

600

841

512

500

900

123

144

782

1,132

1,000

963

718

368

500

537

47.9%

24.5%

33.3%

35.85

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

363

-

February 27, 1942.

Basis of computation: It is assumed that the corporation has current year profits of

1

$1,500,000 and average base year earnings of $1,000,000; that the concept of income is the
same in the United States, Great Britain and Canada; that the corporation's excess profits

credit is determined on the basis of average earnings during the base period; that the
corporation distributes all of its profits after taxes and that the shareholder in the 6Xamples has a 1/10 of 1% equity in the income of the corporation.

2

Revenue Act of 1941.

Proposals: For corporations, excess profits credit as under present law, excess profits rates
increased by 15 percentage points, normal tax as under present law, surtax rate increased to

a flat rate of 31%; for individuals surtax Schedule I-E, rev. 3. substituted for present
schedule and the earned income credit eliminated.

4 Finance Act of 1941. The corporation excess profits tax is before post-war credit and the
amount of individual income tax on share of profits from corporation is the surtax only.
The standard rate is withheld at source by corporations.
5

6

Income War Tax Act of 1941.

Assumed to be 0.1% of current year earnings of corporation.

Assuming full distribution of profits.

Comparison of the interlocking effects of me individual income tax and corporation income
and excess profits taxes in the United States under present law and under the proposed 1942
plan, with British and Canadian systems 1
:Shareholder with $10,000 from other sources
Canadian
5

3/

:

:

law 2/

British

:

:

: Present : Proposal

:

United States

1. Amount of share in corporation profits

before corporation taxes 6
2. Total corporation income and excess

profits tax on share
3. Amount available for distribution by
corporation to shareholder 7 (1-2)
4. Individual income tax on share of
profits received from corporation
5. Total tax on share of corporation
profits (2*4)
6. Amount of profits remaining after
corporation and individual taxes (1-5)
7. Profits after taxes as a percent of
profits before taxes (6:1)

1,500

1,500

1,500

1,500

659

988

1,000

600

841

512

500

900

210

195

113

467

869

1,183

1,113

1,067

631

317

387

433

42.1%

21.1%

25.8%

28.9%

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research
1

February 27, 1942.

Basis of computation: It is assumed that the corporation has current year profits of

$1,500,000 and average base year earnings of $1,000,000; that the concept of income is the
same in the United States, Great Britain and Canada; that the corporation's excess profits

credit is determined on the basis of average earnings during the base period; that the

corporation distributes all of its profits after taxes and that the shareholder in the 6X-

amplee has a 1/10 of 1% equity in the income of the corporation.

2

Revenue Act of 1941.

Proposals: For corporations, excess profits credit as under present law, excess profits rates
increased by 15 percentage points, normal tax as under present law, surtax rate increased to
a

flat rate of 31%: for individuals surtax Schedule I-E, rev. 3, substituted for present

schedule and the earned income credit eliminated.

4

5

Finance Act of 1941. The corporation excess profits tax is before post-war credit and the
amount of individual income tax on share of profits from corporation is the surtax only.
The standard rate is withheld at source by corporations.
Income War Tax Act of 1941.

6 Assumed to he 0.1% of current year earnings of corporation.

Assuming full distribution of profits.

Comparison of the interlocking effects of the individual income tax and corporation income
and excess profits taxes in the United States under present law and under the proposed
1942 plan, with British and Canadian systems

Shareholder with $50,000 from other sources

United States
:

profits before taxes (6 + 1)

Canedian
5

:

7. Profits after taxes as a percent of

3/

British
:

1. Amount of share in corporation profits
before corporation taxes 6
2. Total corporation income and excess
profits tax on share
3. Amount available for distribution by
corporation to shareholder (1 - 2) 4. Individual income tax on share of
profits received from corporation
5. Total tax on share of corporation
profits (2 + 4)
6. Amount of profits remaining after
corporation and individual taxes (1 - 5)

: Proposal

:

Present
law 2/
1,500

1,500

1,500

1,500

659

988

1,000

600

841

512

500

900

496

389

413

594

1,155

1,377

1,413

1,194

123

87

306

8.2%

5.8%

20.4%

345

23.0%

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

March 2, 1942

Basis of computation: It is assumed that the corporation has current year profits of

1

$1,500,000 and average base year earnings of $1,000,000; that the concept of income is the
same in the United States, Great Britain and Canada; that the corporation's excess profits

credit is determined on the basis of average earnings during the base period; that the

corporation distributes all of its profits after taxes and that the shareholder in the
examples has a 1/10 of 1% equity in the income of the corporation.

2

Revenue Act of 1941.

Proposols: For corporations, excess profits credit as under present law, excess profits rates
increased by 15 percentage points, normal tax as under present law, surtax rate increased to
flat rate of 31%; for individuals, surtax Schedule I-E, revised-3, substituted for present
a

schedule and the earned income credit eliminated.

4

5

6

Finance Act of 1941. The corporation excess profits tax is before post-war credit and the
amount of individual income tax on share of profits from corporation is the surtax only. The
standard rate is withheld at source by corporations.
Income War Tax Act of 1941.

Assumed to be 0.1% of current year earnings of corporation.

Assuming full distribution of profits.

Comparison of the interlocking effects of the individual income tax and corporation income
and excess profits taxes in the United States under present lev and under the pronosed
1942 plan, with British and Canadian systems 1
Shareholder with $100,000 from other sources
United States
Canadian
British
Present
: Proposal
:
:

:

before corporation taxes 6
2. Total corporation income and excess
profits tax on share

3. Amount available for distribution by
cornoration to shareholder 7/ (1 - 2)
4. Individual income tax on share of

profits received from corporation
5. Total tex on share of corporation
profite (2 + 4)
6. Amount of profits remaining after corooration and individual taxes (1-5) -

7. Profits after taxes as a percent of
profits before taxes (6 + 1)

5

:

1. Amount of share in corporation profits

law 2/

1,500

1,500

1,500

1,500

659

988

1,000

600

841

512

500

900

572

451

475

648

1,231

1,439

1,475

1,248

269

61

25

252

17.9%

4.1%

1.7%

16.8%

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

March 2, 1942

Basis of computation: It is assumed that the corporation has current year profits of

1

the

$1,500,000 and average base year earnings of $1,000,000; that the concept of income is
same in the United States, Great Britain and Canada: that the corporation's excess profits
credit is determined on the basis of average earnings during the base period; that the

corporation distributes all of its profits after taxes and that the shareholder in the
examples has a 1/10 of 1% equity in the income of the corporation.

2
3r

Revenue Act of 1941.

Pronosals: For corporations, excess profits credit as under present law, excess profits
rates increased by 15 percentage points, normal tax as under present law, surtax rate increased to a flat rate of 31%: for individuals, surtax Schedule I-E, revised 3. substituted for present schedule and the earned income credit eliminated.

4

5

Finance Act of 1941. The corporation excess profits tax is before post-war credit and the
amount of individual income tax on share of profite from cornoration is the surtax only.
The standard rate is withheld at source by corporations.
Income Yar Tax Act of 1941.

6 Assumed to be 0.1% of current year earnings of corporation.
7

Assuming full distribution of profits.

Estate tax liability under present and proposed United States laws and under present
British and Canadian laws, for net estates (before exemption but including $10,000
insurance) of selected sizes
Amount of tax

:

-$

:

-

-

300

-

-

-

-

1,600
3,000
4,800
7,000
20,700
35,700
97.700
163,200
233,200
307,200
730,700

1,808,700
3,104,700
6,050,200
13,749,700
29,149,700

1,200 $

-

500

-

$

1,000
2,650
4,850
7,450
25,350
46,950
144,150
257,350
380,950
512,550

1,220,150
2,751,550
4,340,350
7,540,350
15,540,350
31,540,350

2,400
3,600
5,040
5,880
7,680
9,720
12,000
21,600
39,000
104,000
187,200
270,400
364,000
884,000

2,080,000
3,510,000
6,500,000
13,000,000
26,000,000

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research
E-E Revised.

For footnotes see following page.

5

lav

-

-

574

-

992

1,546
2,173
2,831
3,564
4,367
5,246
10,856
17,201
51,391
88,441
129.531
176,221
425,281
992,861

1,580,651
2,691,450
5.396.430
10,796,430

-

-

-

-

-

.8%

2.3

1.46

3.8
5.3
7.0

3.3

13.8
17.9
24.4
27.2
29.2
30.7
36.5
45.2
51.7
60.5
68.7
72.9

Great

Britain

Canada

Proposal
-

-

6

800

-

-

$

4

Present

-

Proposal

law

Britain
:

1,000,000
2,000,000
4,000,000
6,000,000
10,000,000
20,000,000
40,000,000

:

10,000
20,000
30,000
40,000
50,000
60,000
70,000
80,000
90,000
100,000
150,000
200,000
400,000
600,000
800,000

:

$

Present

United States

: Canada

:

insurance 2/

Great

United States 3.

:

including
$10,000 life

:

:

exemption 1

Effective rate, percent

:

Net estate

before specific:

5.4
7.5
16.9
23.5
36.0
42.9
47.6
51.3
61.0
68.8
72.3
75.4
77-7
78.9

3.0%

6/

4.0

6/

4.0

1.9%

6.0

2.5

7.2
8.4
8.4
9.6
10.8
12.0
14.4

3.1
3.6
4.0
4.5
4.9
5.2
7.2
8.6
12.8
14.7
16.2
17.6

19.5
26.0

31.2
33.8
36.4

44.2

5.0
58.5
65.0
65.0
65.0

21.3
24.8
25.3
26.9
27.0
27.0

February 28, 19.2

Estate tax liability under present and proposed United States laws and under present
British and Canadian laws, for net estates (before exemption but including $10,000
insurance) of selected sizes
(Continued-2)
Foctnotes

A specific exemption of $40,000 and a life insurance exclusion of $40,000 are allowed by the
present United States law. The proposed law would allow a single specific exemption of
$60,000 but no life insurance exclusion.
It is assumed that all insurance would have been excluded under the present act. The average
amount of excluded insurance in recent years has been about $6,000 per taxable estate.

1

2

Before credit for death taxes paid to States: this credit is limited to 80 percent of the tax
imposed by the 1926 Act, which applied only to estates of more than $100,000.
Pound converted at $4. Excludes legacy and succession duties applicable to personal property
and real property, respectively. The rates of tax are graduated on the basis of consanguinity
and not on the size of the share received by each beneficiary. Under present law the rates,
after certain exemptions, in the case of both of these taxes, are as follows:
On shares passing to husband or wife, child or lineal descendant

of child, father or mother or any lineal ancestor
On shares passing to brother or sister, lineal descendant of
brother or sister

1%

5

On shares passing to any other person, including any related
10
only by natural ties
In certain cases supplementary rates to a maximum of 1 percent are chargeable excepting as
between spouses. The average rate in recent years has been about 1.4 percent of net estates.

No allowance is made for the provisions granting relief at points where tes change. If two
rates are possible, the higher is used.

5/

CLE

Assumes ecual division of estate between widow and one adult child.
No tax, on assumption that full advantage is taken of the $25,000 exemption allowed a widow.

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T

118

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February 16, 1942

Statement by Secretary Morgenthau before
the Ways and Means Committee

I. Introduction
I am here to offer my suggestions as to our first
revenue act of the war. I hardly need emphasize the

seriousness of the occasion. The task before us is to
decide how this war is to be financed and how its cost
is to be distributed. Economic and social conditions
during and after the war will depend to a large degree
upon the courage and wisdom with which we attack these
problems.

Victory in this war will demand expenditures on
a scale for which there is no precedent. The President
has announced a program involving war expenditures of

$52.8 billion in the fiscal year 1943. If we are to
furnish the weapons to the men who are doing the

fighting, we shall have to mobilize every possible
dollar of our income. The President's Budget Message

calls for an additional $7 billion in addition to a
Social Security Program of $2 billion. This will

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leave $ billion to be borrowed. In so far as is
possible this borrowing will be from the income and
savings of the great mass of our people.

Ir:the development of our program for financing
the war, several principles should guide us. The

first will be to facilitate the maximum production of
war materials. This will mean that our usual ways of
living will be drastically affected. We should not
hesitate to change our ways of living in any way that
helps the war effort.
On the other hand, it is important to the war effort to maintain a high standard of morale in civilian
life. Still another consideration is that the readjustment after the war should not be made unnecessarily

difficult. We must never forget that our first task is
to win the war, but we must also remember that new prob-

lems will face us at the end of the war.
As we assemble for the consideration of the 1942
tax bill we are confronted with an economic problem

which is intimately associated with the need of revenue.

I refer, of course, to the grave threat of inflation.
In war time money incomes are high due to full employment

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at high wages, while the quantity of civilian goods
available for purchase is not enlarged, and in general
is actually diminished. Unless effective preventive
measures are taken there will result a rapid general
increase in prices.

While moderate price rises may stimulate produc-

tion when resources are partially unused, a substantial

price rise would be an unqualified evil at a time when
we are approaching full utilization of our productive
resources. An inflationary price rise is a source of
grave social injustice. It undermines morale and impedes war production. The hardships of inflation
strike at random without consideration of equity or
ability. Once it has acquired momentum, inflation is

extremely difficult to control, and it will leave a
heritage of post-war difficulties that will haunt us
for decades. Every consideration of national welfare

calls for its prevention.
The way to prevent inflation is to prevent people
from engaging in the futile effort to buy more goods
than can be produced. This requires a comprehensive

and integrated program of anti-inflationary measures,
in which increased taxes and increased savings are

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essential parts. Price control, allocations, rationing,
and the regulation of consumer credit are other parts of
such an integrated program.

All these controls are interrelated. The devices

of price control, allocation, and rationing will be
more effective 11 taxes and savings are increased.

Similarly, the effectiveness of the fiscal devices in
preventing inflation will be greater if price and commodity controls are used.
Although increased taxes cannot by themselves

solve the inflation problem, a much larger volume of
tax revenue is necessary than will be collected from

our existing tax system. My purpose today is to indicate the tax program which the Administration believes should be adopted at this time for the best
interest of the country in the light of the considerations I have mentioned.

II. Objectives of Tax Bill
A. Volume of Revenue

In reaching the conclusion that the tax bill
should raise $7 billion of additional revenue, I have
had in mind the fact that the social security program

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124

should be expanded both as to coverage and as to pro-

tection, and that increased taxes and contributions
for this purpose should be increased by approximately
$2 billion a year. I am not making any recommendations with regard to social security taxation or bene-

fits in connection with this bill, but changes of the
magnitude indicated should be kept in mind in planning
the tax program.

B. Restraint of Inflation
The tax recommendations. which will be presented

have been framed also to promote the objective of

curbing inflation as well as raising revenue. I have
already indicated the menace of inflation and the manner

in which taxes contribute to its restraint. The most
effective anti-inflationary taxes are those which bear
most directly on consumers' purchasing power. Since

mass purchasing power is very largely in the low incomes, it is necessary to place heavier burdens on

such incomes than would be justifiable if there were
no inflationary danger.
The increased collections for social security taxes

will also serve an anti-inflationary purpose.

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C. Ability to Pay
In his recent Budget Message the President said
that "progressive taxes are the backbone of the Federal

tax system." Although the financing of the war requires
taxes upon lower income levels to help in restraining
inflation, we must not lose sight of the basic principle
of our tax system, namely, that taxes should be fair and
nondiscriminatory and imposed in accordance with ability
to pay.

Taxation according to ability to pay leads me to
recommend increases in taxes upon higher levels of income as well as lower levels. Another corollary of the

principle of ability to pay is that special privileges
in our tax laws should be removed. Another is that
taxes not capable of being adjusted to differences in
income or family responsibilities, such as general sales

taxes, should be avoided. Finally, it is an essential
of taxation according to ability to pay that undue
profits should be recaptured wherever they occur. It
is not necessary to allow unreasonable profits in
order to secure maximum production with economical

business management. Under conditions of a war time

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economy the country cannot tolerate the retention of
undue profits.
III. Tax Recommendations

A. Removal of Special Privileges
There are in our tax system certain provisions

which grant to relatively few of our people special
advantages and privileges at the expense of the great
mass who must pay what is thereby lost. I am unwilling
to ask the great mass of the taxpayers of the United
States to pay billions of dollars of additional revenues
until these defects have been removed from the tax laws.
They are bad enough in time of peace--they are completely
inexcusable in time of war.

An important example of such a privilege is pre(Example 1)

sented by tax exempt securities. Every element in our

population should bear its fair share of the burdens
which war imposes. Through tax exempt securities,

however, persons with large taxpaying ability find
themselves in a sheltered position. For the most part

they did not buy these securities at prices reflecting
to any significant extent the great privilege of escape
from war time burdens and surely the States did not

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offer the securities on any such basis. The holders
of tax exempt securities are obtaining what are essen-

tially windfall profits in a time of national sacrifice.
For a long time Presidents, Secretaries of the
Treasury, and Congressional Committees have recommended

the elimination of the tax exemption of interest on
future Government securities. Last year the Congress,
at my recommendation, removed the exemption on interest

from future issues of Federal securities. No action
has been taken with respect to the interest on future
or outstanding State and local securities.
In times of peace, when the strain on other elements

in the population was not so heavy, the gradual elimination of tax exemption through imposing taxes only on
future issues had much to recommend it, but the national
emergency of war makes this gradual approach unacceptable.

I therefore recommend the repeal of the present exemption

applicable to outstanding issues of State and local securities. Unfortunately, tax exemption clauses appear
in many of the outstanding issues of Federal securities
and these promises must not be violated. In the case
of State and local securities, however, there has
never been any contract or moral commitment between

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the Federal Government and the security holders or

the local governmental authorities regarding Federal

taxation. It is true that some representations have
been made in good faith by these governmental authori-

ties on the strength of a mistaken interpretation of
the Constitution. However, since the Supreme Court
decision in the case of Graves V. O'Keefe in 1939

fair minded experts in constitutional law have had no
doubt of the Federal power and moral right to tax the
income from State and municipal securities. Federal
tax policy has never been static; new taxes and higher
rates have always been adopted when necessary. Such

changes, as well as the possibility of new interpretations of the Constitution, have always been an unavoidable risk of those subject to our laws. Where this
involves special hardships in particular cases, I would
recommend that effort be made to devise relief measures

designed to alleviate the situation.
A tax system cannot be defended which in a time of
grave national emergency calls upon the great mass of

our taxpayers to shoulder the heavy burden of additional
taxes and yet permits persons with large taxpaying

ability to pay virtually nothing in taxes. The

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- 10 sacrifices necessary to win a war for the benefit of
all of us should be shared by all of us--including
the holders of tax exempt securities. The President
said in his Budget Message, "When 80 many Americans

are contributing in their energies and even their lives
to the Nation's great task, I am confident that all
Americans will be proud to contribute their utmost in

taxes." I should feel remiss in duty if I did not
recommend the elimination of an exemption which prevents

all Americans from contributing their utmost.
2. Percentage depletion. A second example

of special privilege is the allowance for depletion.
At the present time the owners of mines and oil wells
are allowed to deduct 80-called percentage depletion

or cost depletion, whichever is higher. Percentage
depletion consists of a certain percentage (27-1/2%
in the case of persons having an economic interest

in oil and gas properties) of gross income, the deduc-

tion being limited to 50 percent of the net income from
the property. Under this arrangement percentage deple-

tion goes on after 100 percent of the cost is recovered
and may substantially exceed depletion based on cost. (Example 2)

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- 11 In 1937 the President and the Treasury recommended

the elimination of percentage depletion, but no action
was then taken. The war has intensified the necessity

of the elimination of any such special favor to one
group of taxpayers.

One of the reasons asserted in behalf of percentage

depletion is that it stimulates exploration for new

mineral properties. If this is a proper objective, it
would be better achieved by a special allowance deple-

tion to those who do explore for new minerals without
indiscriminate extension of the same favor to all owners.
At the convenience of the Committee, we shall place

before it a plan directed to this purpose. So far as
other minerals are concerned, it is believed that an
adequate stimulus for exploration would remain if the
percentages allowable for depletion purposes were sub-

stantially reduced.

3. Joint returns. A third example of special
favoritism in the tax laws is the option allowed married
couples to file separate income tax returns. This permission has little or no significance for most taxpayers
since at the present time married couples with incomes

of up to $3,500 (the amount is higher in the case of
married couples with dependents) pay the same total tax

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- 12 whether they file joint returns or separate returns. (Example 3)
It may make a great deal of difference in tax, however,
in the case of married couples with large incomes,
especially if the income is more or less evenly divided
between husband and wife. (Example 4)

This difference in tax is unwarranted since in
actual operation the family is the economic unit. Two
families with the same total income will usually manage
and dispose of that income in a similar fashion, regardless of whether the income is received by only one
spouse or is received by both spouses. One difference
may be noted-that when both spouses work, the expenses

of the family ordinarily are higher than when only the
husband works, since the services of the wife in the
home must be replaced by hired help.

The adoption of mandatory joint returns would

remove this tax differential and would also eliminate
two specific kinds of tax avoidance which are present

under existing law. The first is the treatment of
community income in the so-called community property

states. In the non-community property states the income

is taxable to the spouse who earns it. In the community
property states, however, the husband who earns the

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- 13 income may for tax purposes attribute half the earnings
to his wife, although he retains the management and

control of all the earnings. The result is that married
couples in community property states receive a very

subatantial tax advantage over those living in other
(Example 5)
states. This advantage would be removed if joint
returns were made mandatory.

A second source of tax avoidance which would be

eliminated by mandatory joint returns is the possibility
of manipulating incomes within families. For example,
if the husband receives a large amount of income from
securities, he may reduce the family income tax sub-

stantially (and also reduce the amount of estate tax in
case he predeceases his wife) by giving a portion of his
(Example 6)
fortune to his wife. This, and other methods of reducing
taxes by married couples, would be eliminated through

provision for mandatory joint returns.

It is accordingly suggested that the filing of joint
tax returns by married couples be made mandatory with

a special allowance for the earned income of the wife

in order to give recognition to the loss of the wife's
services in the home. (Example 7)

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- 14 At the increased rates of individual income tax
previously suggested, it is estimated that the revenue

from requiring the filing of Joint income tax returns
would be approximately $

4. Capital gains, At the present time the
maximum tax rates on gains from capital assets held
18 months or more are disproportionately low, having

been left at their 1938 level of an effective rate of
15 percent, while other income taxes have been very
substantially increased. (Example 8)
The rate increases on other incomes have encouraged

an unusually large amount of capital loss realization
which was unusually noticeable during the last few weeks
in 1941 and indicated tremendous use of capital losses
to escape taxation on other income.

In the light of these facts, the following suggestions are made with respect to the tax treatment of

capital gains and losses. It is suggested, first, that
capital gains from assets held 18 months or more be
included in income at 50 percent, which 18 the present

rule for gains from assets held two years or more. It
is suggested that the maximum tax rate, which is allowed

the taxpayer as an alternative in place of the regular
progressive tax rate, should be increased from the present

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- 15 30 percent to 60 percent, changing the maximum effective

rate of tax on capital gains from 15 percent to 30 per
cent. It is recommended also that long-term capital
losses be not allowed as a deduction against ordinary
income, but that instead they be allowed to be carried

forward for a liberal period, perhaps 5 years, as a
deduction against long-term gains. Similarly, the provision for the carry-over of short-term capital losses

should be liberalized. It is suggested further that the
basis of property for the computation of capital gains
and losses be not changed at the death of the owner as

at present, but that the basis in the hands of the
person receiving the property be made the same as it
was in the hands of the decedent,
5. Other examples of unwarranted favorable
treatment. There are a number of other respects in
which the tax laws grant unwarranted favorable treatment.
The life insurance companies of the United States
with assets of $

,

investment income of $

, and

, had a total income tax

(Example 9)
.

of only $

premiums of $

Many mutual casualty insurance

companies are exempt from taxation. Other companies,

while nominally subject to tax, ordinarily pay no tax

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- 16 because the allowance of expenses, losses and returned

premiums more than offsets their included income. The
provisions of insurance company taxation should be
changed to remedy these defects and impose a fair burden
of taxation on the insurance business.
Banks and other taxpayers owning tax exempt interest

bearing securities are able to deduct, against their
taxable income, expenses allocable to the tax exempt

securities. Obviously, this special favor should be
(Example 10)
eliminated from the statute. Under existing law trusts
may be set up to provide pensions for a few high-salaried
key men in a corporation. Although provision for the

protection of retired employees is laudable there is no
reason why tax benefits should be granted in order to
provide large pensions for high-salaried executives.
It is therefore suggested that the pension trust provision
be amended to require a more general coverage of employees

and to limit the amount which may be paid as a pension
to any one officer or employee.

Time does not permit the enumeration of still other
tax advantages that should be removed. They will be
presented to the Committee at your convenience.

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- 17 B. Removing Other D1scriminations

The inequities of our tax laws work in two directions. As I have said, some of them extend undue

privileges to a favored few. Still others result in
unfair burdens upon certain taxpayers. Such inequities
are like the defects in a picture--bad enough when the

picture is on a small scale, but increasingly glaring
as the picture is enlarged. With rates at war time
levels it becomes urgent to correct all such defects.
I, therefore, propose that we make every effort in
this session of Congress to eliminate all hardships of

this character so that our tax laws will cast their
burden equitably upon all taxpayers.
C. Individual Income Taxes

Most of the revenue that will be raised by the
elimination of special privileges will come from the
individual income tax. In addition, it is recommended
that the individual income tax be changed to yield approximately $2.5 billion, or 50 percent more revenue than
will be yielded under the present law. In recommending
this amount I have had in mind the fact that the great
bulk of tax increases under the social security changes

will fall on individual incomes.

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- 18 The individual income tax is the best available

type of tax based upon ability to pay. Its rates and
exemptions can be adjusted according to amount of

income and differing family responeibilities. Furthermore, it is a direct tax. It falls where the Congress

wants it to fall.
I am suggesting a substantial increase in the
income surtax rates throughout the scale. At the
present time the first surtax bracket combined with
the normal tax 1s 10 percent. Under the proposed
schedule it would be 20 percent. The surtax rates
above the first bracket would be progressive and would
be increased in every bracket of income. The rate

scale, together with comparative effective rates of
tax, under present law and under the suggested scale,
are shown in the accompanying tables. (Exhibits

A, B, c, D).
Because of the large increases suggested in
the rates, it becomes essential to afford a more
convenient method for the payment of income taxes.

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A provision for the collection of as must

tax as possible at the source for those 1
are paid periodically, including wages, salarian
bond interest, dividends, and royalties, is the
available expedient to this end. To institute
a system immediately, however, might cause consider

able hardship to taxpayers because of the substantial

increases they are already called upon to pay during
the year 1942 as a result of the Revenue Act of 1941.

On the other hand, if the threat of inflation makes
necessary quick and substantial increases in the

rate of tax collection, the institution of collection
at the source cannot be postponed. Since it is not
known how soon substantial increases in the rate of

tax collection may be necessary for the restraint

of inflationary price rises, it would be desirable
to enable the collection of income taxes at the source

at any time and at rates within the discretion of the
Treasury up to 10 percent. This will furnish desirable
flexibility without imposing additional taxes that may
not be necessitated by future economic conditions.

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19-20

A provision for the collection of as much of the
tax as possible at the source for those incomes that
are paid periodically, including wages, salaries,
bond interest, dividends, and royalties, is the best
available expedient to this end. To institute such
2 system immediately, however, might cause consider-

able hardship to taxpayers because of the substantial
increases they are already called upon to pay during
the year 1942 as a result of the Revenue Act of 1941.

On the other hand, if the threat of inflation makes
necessary quick and substantial increases in the

rate of tax collection, the institution of collection
at the source cannot be postponed. Since it 16 not
known how soon substantial increases in the rate of

tax collection may be necessary for the restraint

of inflationary price rises, it would be desirable
to enable the collection of income taxes at the source

at any time and at rates within the discretion of the
Treasury up to 10 percent. This will furnish desirable
flexibility without imposing additional taxes that may
not be necessitated by future economic conditions.

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- 21 D. Corporation Taxes

It is recommended that additional taxes be

raised from corporations in the amount of $3 billion,
an increase of slightly more than 40 percent.
A substantial share of the increased corporation
tax should fall on excess profits. Taxes paid from
such profits have less disrupting effects on business
than have taxes which are generally applicable to all
00 rporate earnings, irrespective of amount. A tax
which absorbs excess profits still leaves the corporate

taxpayer with a sufficient margin of income for dividends and safety and for continued incentive to produce.

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- 22 On the other hand, a tax which dipe too deeply into
the incomes of low earning corporations may seriously

affect their debt-paying capacity, if not their very
existence. Excess prefits taxes have the additional
virtue of recapturing undue profits on war contracts.
It is suggested that the maximum rate of the
excess profits tax be increased from 60 percent to
75 percent with corresponding increases in the lower
rate brackets.

With rates of this magnitude it is increasingly
important to have a fair basis from which to measure

the profits subject to the excess profits tax. In
addition to the many provisions in existing law to
adjust earnings of the base period to correct for
unusual circumstances, it is suggested that further
relief be afforded where the earnings of the base
period were abnormally depressed, such relief to be
administered by a special board in the Treasury Department.

It is believed that other changes in the excess
profits tax law should also be made, some to eliminate
defects which have been brought to light in the operation of the law, and others to eliminate unnecessary

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- 23 hardships. These changes are of a more technical char-

acter and will be presented to the Committee later,
at its convenience.
Under present conditions, when incomes of many

businesses are declining because of shortages of raw
materials and for other reasons, the corporation which

continues to earn as much as it did during the base

period is in better position to pay taxes than is the
corporation whose earnings have declined, just as the
corporation which is making more than its base period

earnings is in better position to pay taxes than the
corporation which is merely maintaining such earnings.
At a time when very heavy taxes must be imposed on

corporations, there should be a differentiation between
corporations which have suffered a substantial decline

in earnings and corporations which have not. It is
therefore suggested that a portion of the increased
corporation tax be imposed in the form of a special
war tax against which a tax credit would be allowed
for corporations whose incomes have declined. The
credit would be determined by the extent that the sur-

tax net income of the taxable year is less than the

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- 24 average surtax net income of the years 1936 - 1939.

It is suggested that the rate of the war tax be 10 percent with the tax credit computed at 5 percent.

It is suggested that the balance of $3 billion
additional corporate taxes be provided by increasing
the rates on corporate incomes generally. It is
suggested that the surtax be increased from 7 percent
to 21 percent with smaller increases for corporations
having less than $50,000 income. The normal tax rate
might be increased from 24 percent to a round figure

of 25 percent, but there should be no further increase
in the corporate normal tax because any such increase

would result in an undesirable windfall to the holders
of partially tax exempt Federal securities. (Example 11)
There can be no fair quarrel with the imposition

upon corporations of a substantial proportion of the
increased load of taxation required by our national

peril. We are fighting for the maintenance of the very
system of free enterprise which makes corporate profits

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- 25 possible. I am confident that incorporated business
will willingly pay at such a time an additional amount

of tax which will leave it in a position in which its
profits after taxes will in the aggregate be at the level
of corporate earnings during the prewar years.

The imposition of corporation taxes at the level
and in the manner suggested will require a very high

rate of tax on any additional profits earned by corporations subject to maximum excess profits tax rates. In
the critical months ahead our patriotism will be put to

the acid test. It must rise above the profit motive.
National war production depending upon that motive alone

may be tragically inadequate. This is a time in which
we must forget profits and concentrate upon a supreme

productive effort which alone will win the war.
However, it is recognized that very high top, or
so-called "marginal rates," may leave little incentive
for the maintenance of efficiency in business operation.
Furthermore, after the war there may well be need for
a large volume of expenditure in readjusting industry
and maintaining employment. For these reasons it is

believed desirable that in the case of any dollar of
corporate profits the receipt of which results in an

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- 26 increase in tax beyond 80 cents, the additional tax on
such dollar shall be held by the Government to the
account of the corporation and be returnable within a

limited period after the war, in those cases where it
is spent for new and additional capital equipment or
otherwise is spent in the additional employment of
labor.

When tax rates are very high it is more than

ordinarily important that profits be accurately determined. The determination of profits on an annual basis
necessarily depends largely on more or less uncertain
prophecies of the future and some of these prophecies

later turn out to be false. Some supposed profits

prove, in the light of subsequent events, to be illusory;
this sometimes happens, for example, to be profits due

to the rising prices of inventories. In a period
combining unusual uncertainty and high tax rates, such

as the present, there should be in the tax law provision

for the practical correction of tax liabilities based
upon erroneous assumptions.

The uncertainties of this period also make it
important to reduce the necessity for prophesying to the
minimum. The capital stock tax and the associated

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- 27 declared value excess profits tax are determined largely

by the accuracy of guesses about future profits. It is
suggested that the revenue produced by these taxes can

be more fairly and less harmfully produced by the other
taxes on corporations and that accordingly the capital
stock and declared value excess profits taxes be repealed.
E. Estate and Gift Taxes
The estate and gift taxes are imposed at the time
of the transfer of wealth from one person to another.
Many of the fortunes which are being transferred, and

will be transferred in the future, were built up during
a period when income tax rates were far lower than they

are today. It is much more difficult now to build up
large holdings of property. For this reason substantial
increases in the estate and gift taxes should be imposed
as a method of equalizing tax burdens. The guggested

increases are indicated in the tables.

and

(Exhibit E and F)

In conjunction with the rate increases, it is
suggested that the existing insurance exclusion of
$40,000 be merged with the existing exemption of $40,000,

and that a single exemption of $60,000 be allowed. This
will increase the present exemption in some cases and

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- 28 decrease it in others, and will remove a discrimination
between persons who are insured and those who are not.

It is likewise suggested that the exemption for
the gift tax be reduced to $30,000 and that the annual
exclusion of gifts be made a total of $5,000 for each
donor, regardless of the number of donees to whom

property is given.

It is believed that these changes in rates and
exemptions, together with certain changes designed to

prevent avoidance of the tax, will increase the annual
revenue from the estate and gift taxes by $
F. Excise Taxes
New and increased special excise taxes are suggested
to

raise approximately $ 1.2 billion of additional

revenue.

Although these excise taxes are in the nature of

sales taxes, their effects are substantially different
from the effects of general sales taxes. Many of them
are imposed on commodities of which there is or will

increasingly be a scarcity. Such taxes not only yield
revenue but help to conserve materials needed for defense.
Those excise taxes not relating to commodities of which

there is a particular scarcity have been chosen so as

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- 29 to fall on goods which are widely used and are of a
luxury or semi-luxury character. The increase in consumer
incomes will permit maintenance of the demand for those
commodities despite the higher taxes. The Government
will thus secure needed revenue, consumer purchasing

power will be tapped, the producers will not be injured,
and the consumers will not be taxed on necessaries of life.
These special excise taxes have the further advan-

tage of not requiring any substantial expansion of administrative machinery.
No general sales tax is recommended and, indeed,

I strongly urge that no such tax be made a part of this
revenue bill. The general sales tax falls on scarce and
non-scarce commodities alike. It falls across the board
on necessaries and luxuries alike. It bears disproportionately on the low income groups whose incomes are
(Example 12)

almost wholly spent on consumers goods. It is, therefore,
regressive and harmfully eneroaches upon the standard of

living. It increases prices and makes price control more
difficult. It stimulates demands for higher wages and

adds to the parity prices of agricultural products. It
is not, as many suppose, easily collected; on the contrary,
its collection would require much additional administrative machinery at a time when manpower is soarce.

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- 30 IV. Conclusion
I would like to end my recommendations with a

further plea as to their importance as part of our war
effort. Your task is the hardest any Congress has ever
faced. The consequences of failure are staggering.
But--on the happier side--if our war financing is wisely
done, war production will Le encouraged, inflation will
be curbed, public morale will be improved, and our

economic world after the war will be in a better position to meet the inevitable problems following victory.
Such objectives cannot be painlessly accomplished.

There must be temporary dislocation, hardship, and

sacrifice. But I feel certain that we will all rise
to the challenge presented to us. Taxes have been

described by a great American as "the cost of living

in a civilized society." It will be our privilege to
pay that cost cheerfully.
This is the spirit in which the American people
will want to approach the problem of financing the war.

RB:ded

2/18/42

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EXAMPLES

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LIST OF EXAMPLES

1. Tax saving through fully tax exempt securities.
2. Percentage depletion in excess of cost.
3. Individuals with small incomes derive no benefit
from separate returns.

4. Tax saving through filing separate returns.
5. Tax saving for community income.

6. Tax saving through intra-family gifts.
7. Comparative changes of capital gains tax and tax
on other income since 1938.

8. Life insurance companies pay no income taxes.

9. Illustration of banks deducting expenses.
10. Proposed Corporation Tax Plan with Special War Tax.

11. Estimated 1942 distribution of sales tax burden,

assuming all consumers' purchases taxable excepting
rents.

12. Tax increases due to increasing rates.

13. Collection at source.
14. Compulsory savings for corporations.

15. Estate tax.

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1

2A

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Example

Tax saving through fully tax-exempt securities
A.

-

A married man without dependents, receiving
$250,000 from dividends and $1,000,000 in wholly tax-

exempt interest, pays a total tax of $157,703 under

present law. This amounts to 12.6 percent of his total
income. If his tax-exempt interest were taxable, his
tax would be $930,083 or 74.4 percent of his income.
B.

A married man without dependente receiving a

total income of $250,000, of which $25,000 is salary,
$100,000 dividends, and $125,000 wholly tax-exempt

interest, pays a total tax of $69,939 under present law.
This amounts to 28.0 percent of his total income. If
his tax-exempt interest were taxable, the tax would
be $157,659, or 63.1 percent of his income.
C.

A married man without dependents receiving a

total income of $50,000, of which $10,000 is salary,
$30,000 dividends, and $10,000 wholly tax-exempt

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Example

Tax saving through
fully tax-exempt
securities
Continued
-2
interest pays a total tax of $14,665 under present law.
This amounts to 29.3 percent of his total income. If
his tax-exempt interest were taxable, the tax would
be $20,455, or 40.9 percent of his income
Recapitulation

:

Interest from State
and local bonds

Total income
Present law:
Tax

Effective rate

C

$ 25,000

100,000

$10,000
30,000

1,000,000
1,250,000

125,000
250,000

10,000
50,000

157,703

69,939

14,665

12.6%

28.0%

29.3%

930,083

157,659

20,455

74.4%

63.1%

-

$ 250,000

Effective rate
If interest were taxable:
Tax

:

Salary
Dividends

B

40.9%

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2

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Example

Percentage depletion in excess of cost
4.

An oil company purchased an oil producing property at a cost
of $154,461 and in seven years was allowed $316,061 depletion (or

204.6 percent of the cost of the property). At the end of the
period 73.4 percent of the original oil reserve still remained.
B.

This company purchased another oil producing property at a
cost of $113,033 and in seven years was allowed $215,390 depletion

(or 190.6 percent of the cost of the property). At the end of the
period 80.3 percent of the original oil reserve still remained.
c.

The third oil producing property was purchased at a cost of
$176,071 and in six years the company was allowed $184,257 depletion

(or 104.6 percent of the cost of the property). At the end of the
period 71.8 percent of the original oil reserve still remained.
D.

A fourth oil producing property was purchased at a cost of
$1,120,070 and in six years the company was allowed $872,347 de-

pletion (or 77.9 percent of the cost of the property). At the end
of the period 82.8 percent of the original oil reserve still remained.

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EXAMPLE

Percentage depletion in excess of cost
Continued - 2

Recapitulation

:

Amount

Percent of cost
of property

D

$176,071 $1,120,070

$154,461

$113,033

316,061

215,930

184,257

872,347

204.6%

190.6%

104.6%

77.9%

73.4%

80.3%

71.8%

82.8%

Percent of original
oil reserve remaining

:

Depletion deduction:

C

:

Cost of property

B

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Example

Individuals with small
incomes
derive no benefit from
separate
returns
A.

Under present law, the tax liability of a married
couple without dependents, having $2,000 of net income

and filing a joint return, is $42. If each spouse
files a separate return, one reporting 60 percent and
the other 40 percent of the income, their combined tax

is still $42.
B.

For a married couple with a net income of $3,000,

the total tax liability is $138 under either a joint
return or under separate returns.
C.

For a married couple with $3,500 net income, the

total tax liability is $186 under either a joint return
or under separate returns.
Recapitulation
A

Net income

Tax liability, joint returns
Combined tax liability,
separate returns

$ 2,000

C

B

$ 3,000

$3, ,500

42

138

186

42 1

138

186

Tax savings; separate returns
I

One spouse reports 60% and the other 40% of the income.

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Example

Tax saving through filing separate returns
A.

Under present law, the tax liability of a married
couple without dependents, having $100,000 of net

income and filing a joint return, is $52,704. If each
spouse files a separate return, one reporting 60 percent and the other 40 percent of the income, their combined tax liability is reduced by $10,691, to $42,013.
B.

For a married couple with net income of $20,000,

the tax liability on a joint return is $4,614; on a
separate return, $3,005. The tax saving is $1,609.
C.

For a married couple with $10,000 net income, the

tax liability on a joint return is $1,305. If they
file separate returns, their combined liability is
reduced by $340, to $965.

Recapitulation
A

Net income

Tax liability, joint returns
Combined tax liability,

separate returns
Tax saving under separate
returns

I

B

C

$20,000
4,614

$10,000

42,013 1/ 3,005

965

1,609

340

$100,000
52,704

10,691

1,305

One spouse reports 60% and the other 40% of the income.

161

5

162
Example

Tax saving for community income
A.

Under present law, the tax on a married man without dependents, having a net income of $20,000, 18
$4,614. The tax on the same amount of community income
is $2,985.
B.

Under present law, the tax on a married man without dependents, having a net income of $50,000, is
$20,439. The tax on the same amount of community income
is $14,448.
C.

Under present law, the tax on a married man without dependents, having a net income of $100,000, is
$52,704. The tax on the same amount of community income
is $41,763.

Recapitulation
:

Net income

Tax liability, non-community
income
Tax liability, community income
Effective rates
Non-community income
Community income

$20,000

B

C

$50,000 $100,000

4,614

20,439

52,704

2,985

14,448

41,763

23.1%
14.9%

40.9%
28.9%

52.7%
41.8%

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6

164
EXAMPLE

Tax saving through intra-family gifts
A.

A married man without dependents owns a $1,000,000

equity in a corporation yielding $100,000 a year. He
has no income from other sources and his total tax

under present law is $52,748. If he transfers half of
his equity in the corporation to his wife, the combined
tax on their separate incomes amounts to only $41,852.
The tax saving amounts to $10,896. The tax saving does

not allow for the gift tax payable on the intra-family
gift. The gift tax would, however, in general, be more
than offset by reduction of the estate tax base.
B.

If a married man without dependents has a salary
of $50,000 and an investment yielding $100,000 his

total tax under present law is $87,189. If he transfers half of his investment to his wife, the combined
tax on their separate incomes amounts to $74,140, or a

tax saving of $13,049. The tax saving does not allow

for the gift tax payable on the intra-family gift. The
gift tax would, however, in general, be more than offset by reduction of the estate tax base.

165

166
Example

Comparative changes of capital gains tax and tax on
other income since 1938

4.

An individual with a surtax net income of $50,000
from ordinary sources who received an additional dollar
of income is the form of long-term capital gains would
be subject to a tax of 15 percent on that additional
income under the Revenue Acts of 1938, 1940 and 1941.

However, if the additional dollar of income were from
ordinary sources, such as interest or dividends, a
tax would be imposed at the rate of 35 percent under
the 1938 Revenue Act, 48 percent under the 1940 Revenue

Act 1/, 6% percent under the 1941 Revenue Act, and x 80
percent under the proposal.
B.

An individual with a surtax net income of $75,000
from ordinary sources, who received an additional

dollar of income in the form of long-term capital gains
would be subject to a tax of 15 percent on that add1tional income under the Revenue Acts of 1938, 1940 and

1941. However, if the additional dollar of income were
1/ Excluding 10 percent defense tax.

167

Example

Comparative changes of capital gains tax and tax on
other income since 1938 - Continued 2

from ordinary sources, such as interest or dividends,
a tax would be imposed at the rate of 51 percent under
the 1938 Revenue Act, 54 percent under the 1940 Revenue

Act 1/, 65 percent under the 1941 Revenue Act, and 84 percent under the proposal.
C.

An individual with a surtax net income of $100,000
from ordinary sources, who received an additional dollar

of income in the form of long-term capital gains would
be subject to a tax of 15 percent on that additional
income under the Revenue Acts of 1938, 1940, and 1941.

However, if the additional dollar of income were from
ordinary sources, such as interest or dividends, a tax
would be imposed at the rate of 62 percent under the 1938
Revenue Act, 62 percent under the 1940 Revenue Act 1/,
69 percent under the 1941 Revenue Act, and 90 percent
under the proposal.
1/

Excluding 10 percent defense tax.

168
Example

Comparative changes of capital gains tax and tax on
other income since 1938 - continued 3

Recapitulation

:

:
:

:

income

Rev.Acts:Rev.Act:Rev.Act: Rev.Act: Pro-

: 1938-41

:

1

Surtax net

Tax rate on additional dollar of -Capital : Income from ordinary sources
gains :
1938 :1940 1/:

1941 :posal

:
:

:
:
A

$50,000

15%

35%

48%

61%

80%

B

75,000

15%

51%

54%

65%

84%

100,000

15%

62%

62%

69%

90%

0

1

Exclusive of 10 percent defense tax.

169

1

170
Example

Life insurance companies pay no income taxes
A.

None of the 26 1... gest life insurance companies

paid corperation income taxes in 1938 or 1939, although
these companies represent 87 percent of the assets of
all life insurance companies.
B.

In 1939, out of 656 active life insurance companies, only 114 paid any corporation income taxes
whatever. The combined taxes for all these companies

amounted to less than one-half million dollars
($459,000). Over one-half of all income taxes collected
from insurance companies same from 4 medium-sized

companies accounting for less than 1 percent of the
assets of all life insurance companies.
C.

In 1938 a certain large insurance company 1

had assets of ever $5.0 billion, premium income of
$756 million, investment income of $245 million, and
1

Metrepelitan Life

171
Example

Life insurance companies pay no income taxes
Continued - 2

insurance in force amounting to over $11 billion.
This company had no income tax liability.
D.

In 1938 another large insurance company 1

had assets of almost $4.0 billion, premium income
of $650 million, investment income of almost $200

million, and insurance in force amounting to $8.8
billion. This company also had no income tax

liability.
1 Prudential

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9

173
Example

Illustration of banks deducting
expenses

A.

In 1940 a bank with net income, including taxexempt interest, of $15.5 million reported a deficit
for normal tax purposes of $6.0 million and no tax

liability. Under the proposal this bank would pay a
tax of $2.8 million.
B.

In 1940, a bank with net income, including tax-

exempt interest, of $14.4 million reported normal tax
net income of $35,230 and a tax of $8,025. Under the

preposal this bank would pay a tax of $3.9 million.
Recapitulation
B

Net income including
tax-exempt interest

Normal tax net in-

come, present law

Tax liability,
present law

Tax liability,
proposal

$ 15.5 million

- 6.0 million
---

2.8 million

$ 14.4 million
35,230
8,025

3.9 million

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10

175
Example

Proposed corporation tax plan
4.

In 1940 a certain company 1/ had a net income of
$347.3 million. It would use the income method and

would have an excess-profits credit of $217.8 million.

Its total tax liability under present law would be
$156.6 million.
Under the proposal, this company using the same

excess-profits oredit, would have an excess-profits

tax liability of $88.7 million. Its net income,
after the deduction of the excess-profits tax would
be $258.6 million, on which it would have a normal

and surtax liability of $142.2 million. Its total
tax liability under the proposal would be $230.9 million
or an effective rate of 66.5 percent. This compares
with an effective rate of 45.1 percent under present
law.

The combined tax rate applicable to its last dollar of income is 88.8 percent compared with 72.4 percent
under present law.
1/

General Motors

176
Example

Proposed corporation tax plan
continued - 2
B.

In 1940 a certain company 1 had a net income

of $35.8 million. It would use the income method
and would have an excess-profits tax credit of $30.8

million. Its total tax liability under present law
would be $13.0 million.
Under the proposal, this company, using the
same excess-profits credit, would have an excess-

profits tax liability of $3.5 million. Its net income, after the deduction of the excess-profits tax
would be $32.3 million, on which it would have a

normal and surtax liability of $17.7 million. Its
total tax liability under the proposal would be $21.3

million or an effective rate of 59.4 percent. This
compares with an effective rate of 36.4 percent under
present law.

The combined tax rate applicable to its last
dollar of income is 88.8 percent, compared with 72.4
percent under present law.

1

Coca Cola

177
Example

Proposed corporation tax plan
continued - 3
Recapitulation

:

A

B

:

:

(money figures in millions
of dollars)
Net income

$347.3

$ 35.8

217.8

30.8

Proposed excess-profits tax

88.7

3.5

Proposed normal tax

62.1

7.8

Proposed surtax

80.2

10.0

230.9

21.3

156.6

13.0

Excess-profits credit
and exemption

Total proposed tax

liability

Total tax liability,
present law

Effective rate
Present

Proposed

45.1%
66.5%

36.4%
59.4%

72.4%
88.8%

72.4%
88.8%

Combined rate on last
dollar of income
Present

Proposed

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Example

Computation of War Surtax with Relief
(No excess profits tax)
Base period surtax net income
1942 surtax net income

Decrease in surtax net income

$150,000
50,000
100,000

Computation of surtax

1942 surtax net income

50,000

31 percent gross surtax

15,500

Less: 10 percent of decrease in
surtax net income

Surtax

10,000
5,500

Normal tax (24 percent)

Total tax

Portion of net income taken in tax

12,000

17,500

35 percent

179

Example

Computation of War Surtax with Relief

(No excess profits tax)
Base period surtax net income
1942 surtex net income

Decrease in surtax net income

$150,000
100,000
50,000

Computation of surtax
1942 surtax net income

100,000

31 percent gross surtax

31,000

Less: 10 percent of decrease in
surtax net income

5,000

Surtax

26,000

Normal tax (24 percent)
Total tax

24,000

Portion of net income taken in tax

50,000

50 percent

180

Example

Computation of War Surtax

Excess profits credit (8% of invested
capital)

$160,000

Base period surtax net income

150,000

1942 surtax net income

150,000

Decrease in surtax net income

0

Computation of surtax

1942 surtax net income

150,000

31 percent gross surtax

46,500

Normal tax (24 percent)

36,000

Total tax

Portion of net income taken in tax

82,500

55 percent

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11

(Confidential)
(Rough estimates)

Estimated 1942 distribution of sales tax burden, assuming all
consumers purchases taxable excepting rents
Families and single
individuals

(6)

(5)

Aggregate income

distribution

:

:

:

:
:

Income level

(4)

(3)

:

(2)

(1)

(7)

Distribution of
aggregate sales
tax burden

:Percentage:Oumulative:Percentage:Cumulative:Percentage:Cumulative

: of total !percentage: of total !percentage: of total :percentage

Under $500

$

500 - 750

6.8%

6.8%

1.0%

1.0%

2.04%

2.04%

5.66
11.44
19.13

750 - 1,000
1,000 - 1,250

8.8
10.7
12.1

15.6
26.3
38.4

2.3
4.0
5-7

3.3
7.3
13.0

3.62
5.78

1,250 - 1,500
1,500 - 1,750
1,750 - 2,000
2,000 - 2,500

10.8
10.0
7.4
8.8

49.2
59.2
66.6
75.4

6.1
6.7
5.7
8.1

19.1
25.8
31.5
39.6

7.89
8.34
9.29

27.02
35.36
42.06
51.35

2,500 - 3,000
3,000 a 4,060
4,000 - 5,000

6.7
7.7

82.1
89.8
94.0

7-5

47.2
57.9
65.5
75.7
100.0

8.19
11.14
7.31
8.53
13.90

59.54
70.68
77.99
86.50
100.00

5,000 - 30,000
34,000 I inconclusive

total

4.2
3.6
2.4

97.6
100.0

100.0

Division of tax Research

10.8
7.6
10.2
24.3

100.0

7.69

6.70

100.00

February 20, 1942

Nobal Date is columns 2 through 5 casnot be released except with specific assent of the
Agency. which supplied them.

183
Approximate 1942 retail sales tax burden, as percent of
consumer income, by income classes

(Assuming all consumer purchases, except rent, taxable)

:

Consumer
income

Sales tax, as percent of income, under a
sales tax rate

:

: Which imposes a burden equal to

:
:

with incomes of

:

: Less than $500 : Over $10,000

:

Under

: 1% of consumer income on those

of 1%
:

class

1.06%

1.00%

750

.81

.76

1,000

.75

.71

1,000 - 1,250

.71

.67

1,250 - 1,500
1,500 - 1,750
1,750 - 2,000
2,000 - 2,500

.68

.64

.65

.62

.62

.59

.60

.57

2,500 - 3,000
3,000 - 4,000
4,000 - 5,000

.57
.54
.50
.44

500 750 -

$500

5,000 - 10,000
10,000 and over

.29

.54

.51
.47
.41
.27

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

3.65%

2.79
2.60
2.43
2.33
2.25

2.14
2.06
1.97
1.86
1.73
1.51
1.00

February 23. 1942

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12

185
Example

Tax increases due to increasing of rates
A.

A married person with two dependents having earned

income of $3,000 has an income tax liability under

present law of $58. Under the proposal, his tax
would be $118, an increase of $60. The effective rate
of tax at present is 1.9 percent and under the proposal, 3.9 percent.
B.

A married person with two dependents having

earned income of $5,000 has an income tax liability

under present law of $271. Under the preposal, his
tax would be $587, an increase of $316. The effective
rate of tax at present is 5.4 percent and under the
proposal, 11.7 percent.
C.

A married person with two dependents having

earned income of $10,000 has an income tax liability

under present law of $1,117. Under the proposal, his
tax would be $2,143, an increase of $1,026. The effective

rate of tax at present is 11.2 percent and under the
preposal, 21.4 percent.

186
Example

Tax increase due to increasing of rates
continued - 2

D.

A married person with two dependents having

earned income of $100,000 has an income tax liability
under present law of $52,160. Under the proposal,
his tax would be $68,261, an increase of $16,101.

The effective rate of tax at present is 52.2 percent
and under the proposal, 68.3 percent.

Recapitulation
:
:

:

:
B

C

D

$ 3,000

$

58

$

118

:

A

: posal

law

:

:

income

Effective
Tax liability, married
rates
person, two dependents
Present
: ProPresent : ProIncrease
:

Example

Net

$

law

: posal

60

1.9%

3.9%

5,000

271

587

316

5.4%

11.7%

10,000

1,117

2,143

1,026

11.2%

21.4%

100,000

52,160

68,261

16,101

52.2%

68.3%

187

13

188
Example

Collection at source
A.

A married person with two dependents having

earned income of $3,000, would, under the proposal,

have a tax liability of $118. Of this amount $70 or
59.3 percent would be withheld at source.
B.

A married person with two dependents having

earned income of $5,000 would, under the proposal,

have a tax liability of $587. of this amount $270
or 46.0 percent would be withheld at source,
C.

A married person with two dependents having
earned income of $10,000 would, under the proposal,

have a tax liability of $2,143. of this amount $770
or 35.9 percent would be withheld at source.
D.

A married person with two dependents having

earned income of $50,000 would, under the proposal,

have a tax liability of $26,537. of this amount
$4,770 or 18.0 percent would be withheld at source,

189

Example

Collection at source
Continued - 2

Recapitulation

Tax liability, married

person, two dependents
Total

:

:
A

B

C

D

:

:

Example: Net in come:

$ 3,000

$

118

:Percent

:of total

: tax withAmount withheld :held at
at source
$

70

:source

59.3%

5,000

587

270

46.0

10,000

2,143

770

35.9

50,000

26,537

4,770

18.0

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14

191

Example

Compulsory savings for corporations

A corporation with surtax net income of $1,000,000

and subject to the top excess-profits tax rate of 75 percent, would be subject to a total normal and surtax rate
of 55 percent on the balance of net income after surtax.
The tax on the last dollar of income is 88.75 cents.
The excess of the tax over 80 cents on any dollar
of income will be held by the Government to the account

of the corporation and be returnable within a limited
period after the war, in those cases where it is spent
for new and additional capital equipment or otherwise

is spent in the additional employment of labor.

192

15

193
Example

Estate tax
4.
A

person with a net estate of $60,000 before

specific exemption (excluding life insurance) would
pay, under present law, an estate tax of $500, or an
effective rate of 0.8 percent. Under the proposal
which would allow a single specific exemption of
$60,000 but no life insurance exclusion, this person
would pay no estate tax,
B.
500

A person with a net estate of $200,000 before

specific exemption (excluding life insurance) would
pay, under present law, an estate tax of $35,700, or
an effective rate of 17.9 percent. Under the proposal
which would allow a single specific exemption of

$60,000 but no life insurance exclusion, this person
would pay $46,950,or an effective rate of 23.5 percent.
C.

A person with a net estate of $2,000,000 before

specific exemption (excluding life insurance) would

194
Example

Estate tax Continued - 2
pay, under present law, an estate tax of $730,700, or

an effective rate of 36.5 percent. Under the proposal
which would allow a single specific exemption of
$60,000 but no life insurance exclusion, the person

would pay $1,220,150, or an effective rate of 61.0 percent.

Recapitulation
:

A

B

C

:

:

Net estate before
specific exemption
Present estate tax

$ 60,000

$ 200,000

$ 2,000,000

500

35,700

730,700

Proposed estate tax

---

46,950

1,220,150

Effective rate
Present

Proposed

0.8%

17.9%
23.5%

36.5%
61.0%

195
February 20, 1942
12:19 p.m.
HMJr:

Grace

Hello.

Tully:

Hello. Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

Yes.

Mr. Secretary, on your memorandum about Pike
this morning
HMJr:

Yes.

the President says everybody's pleaded with
him, meaning the President, to keep Pike on the
SEC Commission, and he suggests you talk to
Ganson Purcell about it; but he said that they've
all pleaded to have him kept on there.
HYJr:

But if it's all right with Purcell
Well, he didn't - I didn't ask him further than

that because he said everybody had said that
they needed Pike on that Commission and that
they'd pleaded with him, and then he said, "Talk
to Purcell. 11

HMJr:

Well, if I clear
If you want to give us a report on what Purcell

says, all right. I'll take it up with him again.

HMJr:

With pleasure.

T:

All right, sir.

HMJr:

With pleasure.

T:

Right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

All right, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:

Thank you.
Good-bye.

cc - Mr. Foley

196
February 20, 1942
12:20 p.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Operator: Mr. Pike.
HMJr:
Summer

Pike:
HMJr:

Hello.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Pike, I got this word back from the White
House, that everybody at the SEC is pleading
with the President to leave you over there.

P:

Oh.

HMJr:

And that I should talk with Purcell.

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

P:

HMJr:
P:

Now, before I talk with him, I just thought I'd
ask you if it was all right.
Oh, yes. Oh, yes, Mr. Secretary. I think that
You don't want to talk to him first yourself?
Well, as a matter of fact, when I came over we
were just going in to meet him, and I had a

couple of minutes with him. I thought that
probably that might work out that way, and I
told him what we had talked over this morning,
extremely briefly, so that he had prepared on
that.

HMJr:

P:

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:

He is? Well, I didn't want to call him without
talking to you first.
Well, that's all right. Thank you very much.
Well, I'll call him and tell him I want you.
Well, all right.
The President didn't turn me down, you see.

197
-2
P:

HMJr:
P:

Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.

HMJr:

Right.

P:

Righto, thank you.

HMJr:

Good-bye.

CO - Mr. Foley

198

February 20, 1942
12:26 p.m.
Ganson

Purcell:

Hello, sir.

HMJr:

How are you?

P:

Fine, thank you.

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:

Good.

How are you, sir?

Fine. Mr. Purcell, Summer Pike, I understand,
has talked to you about what I've asked him to

do.....

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

.....1n connection with Aniline Dye.

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Now, he'd like to do it, and I'm extremely
anxious to have him do it, and I called up
the White House and asked them to ask the

President about it, and I got word back that -

to talk to you first.

P:

HMJr:

Uh huh.

And 80 I'm calling up to urge the Commission to
let Mr. Pike go ahead and do this for us because

we think it's terribly important to do the first
one right.

P:

Well, I can understand your position.

HMJr:

And it's - they've got a lot of war contracts

and we're up against a very tough situation there
and - because they got off to such a bad start.

P:

Yes. Well, I can appreciate your situation.
All I can ask is that you give some consideration
to ours. We're in an awful tough spot.

HMJr:

Uh huh.

199

-2 P:

And, of course, Summer is a tower of strength
here. On many angles, as you know, he's 80 well
informed

HMJr:

Yeah.

that he's a great help to us.

P:

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:
P:

Yeah.

I would - I'd very much like to have a talk with
you about this if I could.
Well, that's

Sit down and talk it over with you.
Well

I think I could point out some of the problems that

HMJr:

we've got here.
How about four o'clock?

P:

Four o'clock this afternoon?

HMJr:

Yeah.

P:

HMJr:
P:

Surely, sir.
I'll be glad to see you.
I'll come over to your office then.

HMJr:

Fine.

P:

All right, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

Do you want to come alone or with Sumner Pike?

P:

Well, perhaps I should come alone first; but I'll
talk with him and see how he feels about it.

HMJr:
P:

All right.
All right.

200

-3HMJr:

P:

This is something that we'd like very, very

much 80

oh, I know it. I appreciate that, sir. I'm
not trying to gum the works at all. I just
want to - I do want to talk over thoroughly
with you the problems and

HMJr:

Well, that's fair. That's fair.

P:

All right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

P:

I'11 see you this afternoon.

HMJr:

Thank you.

P:

Good-bye.

201
February 21, 1942

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY'S FILES:

Meeting held in Mr. Bell's Office
February 20, 1942
3:15 P. M.

Present:

For Treasury: Mr. White
Mr. Foley

Dr. Viner
Mr. B. Bernstein
Mr. Southard
Mr. Friedman

For State:

Mr. Hornbeck
Mr. Hamilton

Mr. Livesey
Mr. Hiss
Mr. Fox

Mr. Currie
Meeting discussed draft agreement submitted by Treasury. Mr. Hornbeck
said that he found it a very admirable document, and then went on to suggest
some minor changes.

The two main points which were discussed were the provision for consultation between Secretary of the Treasury and China (Article II) and the
question of repayment (Article IV).

It seemed to be the sentiment of those present that it was desirable
to provide for consultation although at the same time the request of the
Chinese for no strings on the loan as to uses had to be kept in mind.

With regard to repayment it seemed to be generally felt that the benefits
which the United States is receiving and shall receive from China's activities
in the war should offset at least in part our financial assistance to China.
However, Treasury officials were particularly concerned with writing into the
agreement some clause which would indicate that this financial aid is not a
gift and that the Secretary has reason to expect that the United States would also

receive benefits in return for the financial assistance. The point was
made that if it was clear that some form of repayment was requested, more
beneficial results from the loan could be anticipated.
The Treasury undertook to redraft the agreement in light of the above

discussions.

I. S. Friedman

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WHEREAS, The Governments of the United States of America and of

the Republic of China are engaged, together with other nations and
peoples of like mind, in a cooperative undertaking against common

enemies, to the end of laying the bases of a just and enduring world
peace securing order under law to themselves and all nations, and
WHEREAS, The United States and China are signatories to the

Declaration of United Nations of January 1, 1942, which declares that

"each government pledges itself to employ its full resources, military
or economic, against those members of the Tripartite Pact and its
adherents with which such government is at war"; and
WHEREAS, the Congress of the United States, in unanimously passing

Public Law No. 442, approved February 7, 1942, has declared that

financial and economic aid to China will increase China's ability to
oppose the forces of aggression and that the defense of China is of
the greatest possible importance, and has authorised the Secretary of
the Treasury of the United States, with the approval of the President,

to give financial aid to China, and
WHEREAS, such financial aid will enable China to strengthen greatly
its war efforts against the common enemies by helping China to

(1) strengthen its currency, monetary, banking and economic system;
(2) finance and promote increased production, acquisition and
distribution of necessary goods;

(3) retard the rise of prices, promote stability of economic
relationships, and otherwise check inflation;
(4) prevent hoarding of foods and other materials;
(5) improve means of transportation and communication;

(6) effect further social and economic measures which will
safeguard the unity of the Chinese people; and
(7) meet military needs and take other appropriate measures in

its war effort.

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-In order to achieve these purposes, the undersigned, being
daly authorised by their respective Governments for that purpose,
have agreed an follows:
ARTICLE I.

The Secretary of the Treasury of the United States agrees to

establish forthrith on the books of the United States Treasury a
credit in the name of the Government of the Republic of Ohing in the
amount of 500,000,000 U. S. dollars. The Secretary of the Treasury
shall make transfers from this credit, in such amounts and at such
times as the Government of the Republic of China shall request, to
an account OR accounts in the Federal Reserve Bank of Near York in

the name of the Government of the Republic of China or any agencies
designated by it. Such transfers may be requested by and such
accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York may be drama upon

by the Government of the Republic of China either directly or through
such persons or agencies as it shall authorise.
ARTIGIN II.

China desires to keep the Secretary of the Treasury of the
United States informed as to the use of the funds herein provided
and to consult with him from time to time as to such usse. The
Secretary of the Treasury of the United States desires to make
available to the Government of the Ropublic of China technical and
other appropriate advice as to ways and means of effectively employ=

ing these funds to anhieva the purposes herein described. Technical

problama that may from time to time arise in effectisting the
financial aid herein provided will be subjects of discussion between
the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States and the Government
of the Republic of China.

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-3ARTICLE XXX.

The final determination of the terms upon which this financial
aid is given, including the bansfits to be rendered the United States
in return, is deferred until the progress of events makes clearer the

final terms and benefits which will be in the mitual interest of the
United States and China and will promote the establishment of lasting
world peace and security. In determinding the final terms and benefits

no interest charges shall be made for the financial aid herein provided and full cognisance shall be given to the desirability of
maintaining a healthy and stable economic and financial situation
in China in the post-war period as well as during the war and to
the desirability of promoting mutually advantageous economic and
financial relations between the United States and China and the

betterment of world-wide economic and financial relations.
ARTICLE IV.

This Agreement shall take effect as from this day's date.

Signed and sealed at Washington, District of Columbia, in
duplicate this

day of

, 1942.

On behalf of the United States of America

Secretary of the Treasury

On behalf of the Republic of China

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February 20, 1942
4:19 p.m.
Summer

Pike:

Yes, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

Mr. Pike, Mr. Purcell is sitting here with me.
Yeah.

P:

HMJr:

P:

HMJr:

And he's been appealing to my sympathies and
one thing and another, and I'm just a softhearted fellow.
Yeah.

This is the suggestion that I made. I don't know
whether you like it or not - I mean, to be fair
to SEC and ourselves

P:

HMJr:

Yeah.

and I said, "Why not let us have your
services and let's break this chain which is

around my neck," you see?
P:

HMJr:

Yeah.

And then after you've been with us a couple of
months and you can decide how important that is
and how SEC - you could decide - we could which way you'd go.

P:

HMJr:

Yeah.

And that would - I think from what Purcell tells
me, that would give him a chance to think about
whether he wants to fill your vacancy and 80 forth

and se on. Now, when I say it, I think it's a
compliment to ask for SEC for somebody.

P:

HMJr:

(Laughs)

And Justice said that when they asked us for
Bob Jackson to try a case for them, we considered
it was a compliment.

P:

HMJr:

Well - (Laughs) - does that impress him very much?

(Talks aside) Does that impress you?

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P:

(Laughs)

HMJr:

I think I made a dent.

P:

(Laughs) Good.

HMJr:

P:

HMJr:
P:

I told him not to trade too hard, and he's asked
to let me know tomorrow morning, which is only
fair.
Yes.

But I frankly want you very, very badly.
I think that might ease the situation if Ganson's

willing that - I thought of that on the way back

this morning as a possible way out, because Ganson's

right in that there are some real repercussions

over here if anybody takes a hop at this moment.
HMJr:

Well, this wouldn't be - this would - we'd word
it so that we'd ask the SEC to lend us one of
their Commissioners.

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Lend the Treasury one of their Commissioners to

help them, and I think that if the Treasury goes

to the SEC for help, it isn't - well, I.

P:

Well, I don't

HMJr:

.....I think it's a compliment.

P:

Well, I don't see why our Chairman isn't softening
up at the moment. You've certainly got me softened
up.

HMJr:

I've got you softened up?

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Well, I don't know how to soften them up, but he

P:

(Laughs) Well, I guess he'll probably give in

looks like a nice fellow.

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over night. That would be my guess.
HMJr:

Well, I wanted to talk to you in his presence.
It appeals to you?

Yeah. Yeah.

P:

HMJr:
P:

HMJr:

P:

Well.....
I think on the breaking up thing, the repercussions wouldn't be anywhere near as severe
on that basis as they might on the other.
Well, I can see he's just taking this thing
over and he doesn't want

Well, he's on quite a spot, you know. There was
a stink that lasted a month or two over the whole
thing, and Ganson's in a tough spet; and I don't
want to do anything that will make a pretty tough
job anyway any tougher for him.

HMJr:

Well, we can help maybe in other ways, too.

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

I mean, with the SEC.

P:

Yeah. I kind of like that.

HMJr:

You kind of like that?

P:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Okay.

P:

All right, sir.

HMJr:

We'll - he said he's going to talk to you and

P:

I'11 be here when he gets back.

HMJr:

Right.

P:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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February 20, 1942
4:30 p.m.
HMJr:

Operator:
HMJr:

Robert

Hello.
Mr. Rouse.

Hello.

Rouse:

Good afternoon, sir.

HMJr:

Hello, Bob. You seem to have been doing a swell
job down there.

R:

This is the brightest minute of the week.

HMJr:

Really?

R:

Yeah.

HMJr:

How do you mean?

R:

HMJr:
R:

HMJr:
R:

Well, we took in six million, four today on the
two's.

Yes.

But at the close, the Central Hanover came in
and went to the dealers and said, "If you boys
are patriotic, we are; and we'll take some of
these two's on at par.
Oh, wonderful.

So they turned some, and we saw to it they
couldn't get too many.

HMJr:

I see.

R:

And on the two and a quarters, I know of two or

three outright sales of five million each today,
and in other sections of the list there's a demand
in the sense that the boys have been going over
and look at what their taxes are going to be,
and they've got to buy more income.

HMJr:

I see.

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HMJr:
R:

HMJr:
R:

And time is helping it.....
Good.

80 that the picture looks a good deal
better tonight than it has any day this week.
Fine.

Bonds got up as high as twenty-two bid, and closed,

oh, at least nineteen bid. It's not very big,
but there isn't any sellers; they're pretty well
cleaned up now.

HMJr:

Well, when you think of all the private issues
were called off and that we just went through

with it, I think it's pretty good.

R:

Yes. And I think as it wears along the fact that
we did a billion and a half and everybody is down
to earth again won't do us any harm.

HMJr:
R:

HMJr:
R:

How much did we buy of the two and a quarters.

Oh, I haven't the exact figures in my mind, but
it's quite a small amount.
Yeah. Right.

It - well, if I were to guess, offhand, it would be

about twenty million.
HMJr:
R:

HMJr:
R:

Right. And of the two's?
The two's, about thirty.
Well, that's not bad.

No, it's not bad at all. It will - let's see,

it will work out twenty-nine - fifty-eight million

about all together.
HMJr:

Well, after all, we're handling bigger and bigger
issues and re'11 have to - when we support it'11
take more money.

R:

Yes, and I think we'11 just have to recognize it

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HMJr:
R:

as part of the cost of doing business.
That's right.

I think there's a - it can be handled practically
if we don't get too theoretical about it.

R:

That's right. Well, thank you very much.
Thank you for calling.

HMJr:

How's your sinue?

R:

It's better.

HMJr:

Good. Sounds better.

HMJr:

R:

HMJr:

I'm feeling a good deal better. I've got it
fairly well cleaned up.
Good. Well, take care of it.

R:

Thank you very much.

HMJr:

Good-bye.

R:

Good-bye.

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February 20, 1942
4:50 p.m.
RSJr:

I understand you called me last night.

Aubrey

Williams: Well, it's very kind of you to return it. I

just had a breinstorm. I saw this picture of

Donald Duck
HMJr:

Yeah.

and I was 80 terribly impressed with it

W:

that I wondered if you might not work something

in the way of a public support of that thing.
HMJr:
W:

HMJr:

No.

It seemed to me se darned good that - are you

going to be able to pay for it?
Oh, we paid for it.

W:

Oh, you did?

HMJr:

And I told the Committee I'd pay for it.

W:

Oh.

HMJr:

We're all right on that.

W:

Well, I was wondering - you know this bomber

idea of yours is going over big

HMJr:
W:

Yeah.

and I wondered along - the people might

take a pleasure and a joy in throwing in a

quarter, fifty cents, or a dollar for a proposition like that and feel they had a part in
spreading the gospel.

HMJr:

Well, I think - I appreciate your thinking of

us, but we had the money and I told the committees we were going to pay for it and we went
ahead and did.

W:

Uh huh.

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-2HMJr:

HMJr:
W:

HMJr:

And we're going ahead and making another one.

Good. I thought it was perfectly marvelous.
So we're not going to let them stop us.
The enthusiasm of the people after it was over
was the complete justification.

Well, it's awfully nice to hear it, because I
think that Disney really did quite an unusual
job.

W:

Yes, he did.

HMJr:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Well, I just wanted to give you that idea.
Well, thank you, but we happen to be all right

W:

Fine.

W:

this time, but we might not have been.

HMJr:

Thank you.

W:

Good-bye.

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FEB 20 1942

Dear Senator Downey:

The nice things you said on the floor
of the Senate last Tuesday in connection with

our tax collection and defense bond sales efforts
have just been brought to my attention.
Please accept my personal thanks for
your hearty support.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) N. Morgenthan, Jo.

Secretary of the Treasury.

Hon. Sheridan Downey,

United States Senate.

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FEB 20 1942

Dear Senator Barkley:

Your recent statements to the Senate commending

the Donald Duck film and urging the Senate and its

employees to participate in the payroll-savings plan
for the purchase of Defense Bonds have come to my
attention.

As always, your remarks have been of great help
in our program and I want you to know they are deeply
appreciated.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) R. Morgenthan, Jrd

Secretary of the Treasury.

Hon. Alben W. Barkley

United States Senate.
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FEB 20 1942

Dear Mr. McCormack:

The remarks which you made in the House on
Wednesday urging members and their employees to

participate actively in the payroll-savings plan
for the purchase of Defense Bonds have been brought

to my attention.

Your statements were very effective and I want
you to know that your support of the defense bond
program is sincerely appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) No Morgontham, IN

Secretary of the Treasury.

Hon. John W. McCormack

House of Representatives.
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21 BEDWIN SKILLMAN

EXECUTIVE SECRETARY

OFFICERS
CHILDS
T.

OVERTISING CLUB

WILLIAM FARIENT
MONORARY PRESIDENT
PERCE

P. STIEFF. Ja.

PIRST VICE-PRESIDENT

of Baltimore

VICTOR P. SKRUCK
SECOND VICE-PRESIDENT
ASRAHAM WATNER
TREASURER

ESWARD F. REQUARE
SECRETARY

KARL F. STEINMANN

OFFICES AND CLUB ROOMS: SUITE 1222 EMERSON HOTEL . BALTIMORE MD.
PRIVATE TELEPHONE CALVERT 6159

GENERAL COUNSEL

BOARD OF

February 20, 1942

GOVERNORS
ALL OFFICERS INCLUDED)

WARD L. ANIMANN. Jr.
Louis S. ASHMAN
J. O. BLAKELY
RALPH W. BROWNFIELD

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Washington,D. C.

HAROLD C. BURKE
WILLIAM H. GIDEON

Dear Mr. Secretary:

S. L HAMMERMAN
J. TOUCHSTONE JONES
JOSEPH KATZ

c MARKLAND KELLY
BENJAMIN G. KLINE

The Advertising Club of Baltimore was singularly
fortunate in having you as its guest speaker last Saturday
evening, when you gave the nation, through our club, your

masterful address.

J. R. LAMB

In my opinion this was one of the very best

E H LANDAUER
Roy B. LANHAM

addresses you have thus far made.

CHARLES T. LeVINESS

Assuredly, we would not have held an annual

B. F. LITSINGER
E. LESTER MULLER
THEODORE A. NEWHOFF

A. G. SCHOTTA

banquet this year if you had not graciously consented to
address us, thus enabling us to devote the banquet to
National Defense.

Louis E. SHECTER

I think your reference in your address to our "

RAYWOND S. TOMPKINS

D. STUART Wean

Commander-in-Chief was superb.

You may be interested to know that we are still
active in our efforts with Defense Bonds and Stamps.
11
Syracuse, New York, wired us for particulars, and one of
our guests purchased $10,000 of bonds on Monday.
It was indeed a real pleasure to meet you, and I
know you will be happy to learn that you gave so many
folks in Baltimore and millions of the radio audience so
much assurance and real enjoyment.

Wishing you all power in the continuance of the
great work you are doing, I am, with real appreciation,
Sincerely yours,

W.T.Childs
emw

W.T.Chied
President

6 S. Calvert Street

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February 20, 1942
Dear Dave:

I am very sorry to learn from your
letter of February 19 that we are about to
lose your services at the Treasury.
You have been of inmense help in your

few months here, and I appreciate all the
assistance that you have given. More than
that, it has been a personal pleasure for

me to have had you as a member of my Treasury
family.

Now that you are going into the army, I
should like you to know that all our good
wishes will go with you, in whatever part of
the world you may be serving.

Sincerely,
(Signed) Henry Morgenthau, Jrs

Mr. Dave H. Morris, Jr.
Treasury Department.

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WASHINGTON

February 19, 1942

Dear Mr. Secretary:

As I told you a little while ago, I have
just received orders to report on Monday morning for
any duty. Under these circumstances I hereby tender
my resignation as your Assistant, to be effective
Saturday, February 21st.

Working for you has been one of the most

stimulating and delightful experiences of my life and
I only regret that I cannot be in two places at once
so as to continue working here and also fulfill my
new assignment:

with kind personal regards and best wishes
for your ever continuing success in the wonderful job
you are doing, I am
Very sincerely yours,

Dave H. Morris, Jr.

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

Waa.

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February 20, 1942
Dear Miss Monroe:

Your generous offer to serve as a
"Minute Man in the Defense Savings Campaign

and to conduct "Victory Sings" throughout the
nation is a most welcome contribution to the
nation's war effort.
A program of community singing in com-

munities throughout the country cannot fail

to foster that spirit of united devotion to

our cause which is so essential to victory.
I know that your efforts will be of great

help to the Treasury Department in its campaign

for the voluntary participation of all our

people in the financing of the war.
Sincerely,

(Signed) H. Horgenthau, JP.

Miss Lucy Monroe,

RCA Victor Manufacturing Company,
Camden, New Jersey.

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February 20, 1942
Harold Graves
Eugene Sloan

Secretary Morgenthau

The art in the advertisement in the Evening Star,

paid for by Hahn, entitled "They're giving their all;
won't you lend yours?" is at least fourth grade. I would
like to know whether the drawings were done in the
Treasury. Please give me a memo on this today.

This is the thing that I complained to Sloan

about at least two weeks ago.

If this work is done in the Treasury I wish
that the art end of it would be referred to Mrs.
Morgenthau and Olin Dows as I am confident that with
their help we could produce advertisements which would
be much more effective and that the art work would be
the best.

I would like an answer to this memorandum by
this afternoon. Thank you.

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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE 2/20/42
TO

Mr. Sloan

FROM Mr. Mahan

The advertisement entitled "They're Giving
Their All; Won't You Lend Yours?" which appeared last night in the Evening Star was
one of the series prepared and released at
the same time as the portfolio which the
Secretary discussed with you.
The artwork for this advertisement was done
in our own shop. I am sure the reorganization
which we have completed this week will enable
us to turn out advertisements which will be

more satisfactory to everyone than this first
series.

In connection with the meeting on Tuesday
afternoon with Mrs. Morgenthau and Mr. Dows,

I will arrange to exhibit and discuss advertisements as well as posters. It will be of
help to us in our reorganization of the
Creative Department to get their comments.

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President Green and members of the American

Federation of Labor: This pledge of yours to buy
a billion dollars of Defense Bonds in 1942 is a
magnificent example to the whole country. It is
the biggest single pledge that has come to us from

any single organization. It amounts to about $200

for every one of your five million members. If you
fulfill and exceed your pledge -- as I am confident

that you will -- you will be winning a victory as
important in its way as a victory on the battlefield.
For you will be proving once more that the American
people here at home are working and saving to help

win this war for freedom.

This war is a crisis for the whole labor movement
in more ways than one. Unless we and our allies win it,

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there will be no survival of free trade unions, no
abroad,
liberation of the millions of workers now enslaved,
no continuance of the rights that American labor

has won in generations of struggle, no better future
for the working men and women of the world. Upon
american labor
the outcome depends everything that you stands for,
labor
american
itself and its
everything that you dreams of for yourselves and your

children.

Our American future will be determined not only

by events on the battlefields but by our response,
here and now, on the home front. Most of you are

fighting on the assembly lines in the Battle of
Production, which may become one of the decisive

battles of the world. All the giant strength of

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American industry is being mobilized to produce the
weapons and materials that will smash our enemies;

all the skill and energy of American labor are going

into that battle, and they are going to win it in
the end.

Yet we shall be hampering our own efforts to
produce if we then go into the market place to buy
unnecessary goods that compete with our war production.
I am reminded of an advertisement in the New York

papers a few days ago showing Hitler pinning a medal
on an American man and woman; the caption was "For

Distinguished Services to the Axis -- For Hoarding. 11

We know that it is unprofitable and unpatriotic to
hoard rubber, sugar or any commodity in times like

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these, but hoarding is only an extreme example of

a more widespread evil. It is just as unprofitable,

underpful

a great many things
just as unpatriotic for us to buy anything that we
can do without until the end of the war. If the
Battle for Production is to be won -- and I know

that labor is determined that it shall be won -we shall have to cut down on our own everyday expend-

itures, to do without new gadgets and luxuries, to
keep our buying strictly to necessities. The more
goods we buy now for civilian use, the more we may
have to ration as those goods become scarce and as
the war goes on.

That is an additional reason for continuing to
buy Defense Bonds every week, every pay day, to the

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very limit of our ability. Bond-buying is the very
opposite of luxury buying in wartime. It helps to
keep prices in check. It helps to clear the decks
for war production. It helps the Government to

finance the colossal costs of war, and it will help
you by giving you a reserve of spending money after

the war when you will need it most.

I am glad that in your billion dollar campaign
you are emphasizing the importance of continuous

week-by-week investment out of your pay checks. The
money that we need most urgently is new income, weekby-week income, the income that would otherwise be

spent on unnecessary things. It does not help to
finance the war, or to keep inflation down, to buy
Defense Bonds by taking money out of savings bank
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accounts; for that money is already out of the stream

of purchasing power, and it is already largely invested
in other Government bonds. The best way you can help

in financing the war and in safeguarding your future
is to buy Defense Bonds out of your new earnings,
regularly and as much as you can.

In this effort the Treasury is relying upon all
the five million members of the American Federation
of Labor, and especially upon the shop stewards and

presidents of locals. I should like to say a few
words in conclusion to the shop stewards and local
presidents who may be listening to me tonight. You

are my partners in this payroll savings enterprise.
You are the ones who know how much your members are

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investing in payroll savings plans. You are in a
position to know whether a particular worker is doing

all that he can, or less than he should. I am relying
on you to tell your members throughout the year about

the advantages of payroll savings; to keep track, in
a friendly way, of what your members are investing;

and to see that they set aside every dollar they can,
for their own good and their country's good.

As I have said repeatedly, this is not a token
war, and it cannot be paid for with spare change.
We are engaged in a war of desperate seriousness.

It is so serious that it allows no margin of safety
for any of us. Remember, whoever relaxes helps the
Axis.

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This is a time for sweat, , for work, for saving,
for maximum effort in every phase of the war effort.
I have such confidence in American labor that I know

you will put forth that maximum effort, voluntarily,
willingly, cheerfully, whatever the cost, however long
and hard the war may be.