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DIARY

Book 490

January 29 - 31, 1942

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Book

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490

243

Airplanes

Aircraft despatched - British Air Commission report 1/30/42

Aldrich, Winthrop W.

See Financing, Government

Alien Property Custodian
FDR asks HMJr to discuss with him - 1/29/42

62

American Bosch Corporation

See Batt, William

B-

Batt, William

FDR-HMJr conversation concerning possible connection
with American Bosch Corporation discussed with

Foley - 1/29/42

63

181

Memorandum for FDR - 1/30/42

British Purchasing Mission

Federal Reserve Bank of New York statement showing
dollar disbursements, week ending January 21, 1942..
Butler, J. Homer
See Customs, Bureau of

98

CChina
Loan:

State Department wants action; Hull and HMJr to
confer - 1/29/42

Litvinoff-HMJr conversation - 1/29/42
Treasury staff conferences - 1/29/42
a) Letters to FDR and Hull

2,4
5

8.28

38,40,46

State-Treasury conference - 1/30/42
Conference at White House - FDR, HMJr, Hull, and
Jesse Jones - described to Viner, White, and
Foley by HMJr - 1/30/42
a) Berle-HMJ conversation
b) Jones calls for appointment with HMJr

149

153
158

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1/30/42

1) Actual conference - 1/31/42

c) Soong explains conference with FDR and how

question of loan came up - 1/31/42
Joint Resolution of assistance to China as drawn
up by Treasury group - 1/30/42
a) Letters to Speaker and Vice President
b) Copies of Resolution okayed by FDR to
State, War, Navy, etc

c) Hull's letter to FDR

d) Knox's letter to FDR
e) Stimson's letter to FDR
f) FDR's letters to Speaker and Vice President
transmitting Joint Resolution - 1/31/42
g) Jones' revision of Resolution
h) Soong reads Resolution
Presidential Message (draft) as drawn up by State
Department - 1/30/42

175
272
266

169,277
279,287
282
290
291
293

297

300,30
305
170

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Book

Page

490

189,203

Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's resume - 1/30/42

Customs, Bureau of

Butler, J. Homer: Further consideration of case by
HMJr and Gaston - 1/29/42

66

Dutiable articles for use in connection with British
ships being refitted in United States yards:
Admission in bond discussed in State-Treasury
correspondence - 1/31/42

317

-DDefense Savings Bonds

See Financing, Government
Democratic Party
George Washington Dinner on February 23 at $100 a

plate in Washington and $50 a plate in New York
discussed by HMJr and Gaston - 1/29/42

71

-EExchange Market

111,253

Resume's - 1/29-30/42
Exports

To Russia, China, Burma, Hong Kong, Japan, France,
and other blocked countries, week ending
January 17, 1942.

372

-FFederal Reserve Building
See Joint War Staff
Financing, Government

Aldrich, Winthrop W.: Proposal for United States
Annuity Bonds and Haas review of proposal - 1/30/42..

221,224

Defense Savings Bonds:

Payroll Savings Plan:

Firms employing 100 to 499 persons now

participating - 1/29/42
Existence of plan in industrial plants receiving

the Navy "E" flag - 1/31/42
Operation of plan in large companies during
December 1941 - 1/31/42

Unfilled Orders, January 15 to date - 1/30/42
Progress report by Graves - 1/30/42
Navy thanked by HMJr for participation - 1/31/42
Field Organization News Letter, No. 37 - 1/31/42
Railway Labor Executives Association thanked for

participation - 1/31/42

83

331
336
237

240-A
324

343
327

McAdoo, Eleanor Wilson:

Mrs. FDR told of her appointment in California 1/31/42

Thanks HMJr for appointment - 2/2/42: See Book 491,
page 210

Mrs. FDR thanks HMJr - 2/7/42: Book 493, page 231

349

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Book Page

Fuels, Solid
Ickes sent report on use of solid fuels by Treasury
Department - 1/31/42

490

359,363

-GGermany

Postage stamps - strict Government control of
purchase and export - 1/30/42
Great Britain
British Tax Reserve Certificates - White memorandum -

245

365

1/31/42

-HHanes, John W.
See Town Hall

-IInflation

Price Control Act of 1942: FDR's statement on
signing - 1/30/42

187

-JJoint War Staff
Availability of Federal Reserve and Public Health
buildings discussed by Hopkins and HMJr 1/31/42

268

-LLatin America
Freezing measures in certain countries on West
Coast - 1/31/42

386

Lend-Lease

Purchases, week ending January 31, 1942 - Mack
report

-McAdoo, Eleanor Wilson
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

366

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Military Reports
Reports from London transmitted by Halifax and
Campbell - 1/29/42, 1/31/42
Kamarck summaries - 1/29/42

Book Page
490

113,403
116,406

Coordinator of Information reports from London 1/29/42

119

Coordinator of Information report

126

"The War This Week" January 22-29, 1942 Morgenthau, Henry, Sr.

Prediction of war made in 1930 sent to HMJr by
Nathan Strauss - 1/30/42

185

Morocco

Tangier Zone: Exchange situation discussed in cable
from American Legation - 1/29/42

103

-NNavy Department

See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

-P. -

Philippine Islands
Financial Status: Treasury asks for additional
information in connection with consideration of

further credits - 1/30/42

255

1/31/42

315

Pioneer Import Corporation
Foley memorandum on indictment of Werner von Clemn -

Price Control Act of 1942
See Inflation
Public Health Building
See Joint War Staff
-RRailway Labor Executives Association
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

Revenue Revision

British Tax Reserve Certificates - White memorandum 1/31/42

365

-Solid Fuels
See Fuels, Solid
Speeches by HMJr

Defense Savings Bonds: Navy thanked by HMJr for

participation - 1/31/42

324

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490

132

Tangier Zone
See Morocco
Town Hall

Obvious plan to arrange debate between Treasury
representatives and John W. Hanes discussed at
9:30 meeting - 1/30/42

-VVon Clemm, Werner

See Pioneer Import Corporation
-W-

War Staff, Joint

See Joint War Staff

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January 29, 1942

PRESENT: Mr. White

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR.: At nine o'clock this morning I called on

the Secretary of War and General Marshall. I asked Gen-

eral Marshall how he felt about the military situation
in China.

He went over the situation, going back to the mis-

take the English made in Rangoon and so forth and so on.

What I didn't know, it seems that they are sending out
a General Stillwell to be Chief of Staff under General

Chiang Kai-shek. These negotiations have been conducted
here between the War Department and T. V. Soong and they

are very much pleased to think that Chiang Kai-shek is
willing to have an entire American staff to run his army.

Marshall says that the matter out there is critical

because, 1, the Japanese have been very active in India

and, 2, they have been very active in China. If either
Rangoon or Singapore falls it will just add that much
more fuel to the fire and help the Japanese in their propaganda to work with the Chinese that the yellow races
should stick together and that the white races are being

defeated. Marshall regarded the situation seriously.

Then Stimson talked and he said that he thought the
situation was serious and that at any price we should

keep them going.

Stimson evidently hasn't read or couldn't find the

letter which I sent him, a copy of the letter I sent the

President, but he has been inquiring about the matter and
he very frankly said that he thought that I had made a
great mistake when I offered to pay for the Chinese troops.

He had been misinformed. He thought we were going to pay

the troops directly instead of giving the money to Chiang

kai-shek. So I said I had only done this after carefully
clearing it with the President and with Churchill and also

with T. V. Soong.

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He said, "Well, you can't trust T. V. Soong," and
he said, "Anyway, in my experience with Orientals, if

you say something to them as a proposal they will always

say yes and never tell you no, but they will get word to

you in some roundabout way which often makes you think

that they have double-crossed you, but they just can't
say no to you."

I asked him whether he thought I should let the
State Department handle this thing because my heart wasn't

in it and because this was a straight political matter,
and he said yes. But on second thought, I am not going
to give it up so easily, especially because the President
has asked me to do it and I would have to go and tell the
President I didn't think that I could do it, something

which I have never done before.

Certainly from Marshall's standpoint, General Marshall and Stimson, they think that the matter is important.
The last thing that Stimson said to me was, "Now, don't
let the thing fall down on account of any difference between you and the State Department," and I said, "Well,
quite the contrary, I can sit by and do nothing because

I have a letter from the President telling me to wait
until Mr. Fox returns and I have a letter from T. V. Soong
telling me to wait, " but I said, "I am pushing the matter.
He said, "Please do, and whatever the cost is, I would do

it."

Now, Harry, at 11:15 I am going to sit down with you
on this Chinese thing, so from now until then please de-

vote your thinking entirely to this, you see, and the

thing which isn't clear in my mind is what Ambassador
Gauss has said as to the Chinese situation, because I
haven't had time to read those things.

MR. WHITE: I have a little something to add, if

you want it.

H.M.JR.: Go ahead.

MR. WHITE: Last evening Hornbeck telephoned to say

that Mr. Hull thought it was very important that some

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general announcement be given of a loan arrangement,

although the details need not be specified. They can
be made public later.

I told Mr. Hornbeck that it was my understanding,
and I thought it was your understanding, that the matter
was to await Mr. Fox's return. Mr. Hornbeck said that
probably was true until Mr. Hull learned that Mr. Fox
was going to be so delayed as to postpone the matter too

far and that it was his understanding definitely that Mr.
Hull does not want to await Mr. Fox's return, so I had a
note to you about it and saying that I was going to have
a meeting this morning at 10:00 o'clock of the Treasury
staff, unless you had a contrary opinion, because I would
like to submit to you whatever your own staff makes as a
recommendation.

H.M.JR.: That is all right. 11:15.

January 29, 1942

HM Jr called Secretary Hull today and the following
is HM Jr' S end of the conversation:

"I am sorry that you are not well.
"Hornbeck called up Harry White last night, and your
people seem to want something on this Chinese loan. I

really did not want to do anything about it until I had

a chance to talk to you. You remember I spoke to you about
it on Monday and said at that time that after the boys
got together I wanted to see you.
"Would tomorrow morning be time enough? What time

do you think you could see me at your office? I will
come to your office then at 10:30.

"This is a political matter and not a financial one,
and that is why I do not want to move on it without conferring with you. I would like to do in this matter what

you think should be done. "

(Secretary Hull said he did not know the technical
details but he would be glad to see me at 10:30 tomorrow

morning.

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January 29, 1942

PRESENT: Mr. White

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR.: Ambassador Litvinoff called at my request

and I said that we had been approached by the Chinese for

a loan and I felt that what the Chinese did in the future
was as much of interest to them as it was to us. He said
it is of more interest to them than it is to us.
I told him that they had asked for a billion dollar
loan, half from the English and half from us, and the
English said they would go up to fifty million dollars
but couldn't go any further. I told him what I had
offered to do about the soldiers and he said, "Have they

a million troops under arms?" I said, "Well, I believe
so."

He said he didn't know anything himself but he would

get off a wire right away. He said, "I question whether
the Japanese would make any peace with the Chinese now

because they are drunk with victory, " and he said, "If
Singapore falls we are firmly convinced -- He said,

"We believe that the Japanese will synchronize with the
Germans and will attack us in about two months' time.
That is what we expect." He said, "Once we begin to fight
the Japanese, that ought to greatly encourage the Chinese."

He gave me the distinct feeling that he questioned

that the Chinese would stop fighting at this time. I
said that I personally wasn't so worried because after

all, the Chinese had gone through this for four years and

now that they saw that we were in this thing I just didn't
see how they could quit at this time.
He kept repeating over and over again, "Well, this

is nothing but blackmail," and I said, "Yes, and at a
time when we have our back to the wall in the Pacific,

and I don't like it." That is that. But it is interesting, what?

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MR. WHITE: He agreed with the opposition.

H.M.JR.: Yes, but it is interesting that he is
convinced that they will be attacked in two months and
are ready for it.
Oh yes, he said, "Can't you drag these negotiations

out as long as possible?" I said, "Well, that is what
we are trying to do by making the payments on a monthly
basis." He said, "Yes, that is the way to do it."
He said, "Well, what can they use it for? What
can they use it for? They can't get any more material
up the Burma Road." I said, "I have been all over that

with T. V. Soong and I pointed out to them several weeks
ago that we had committed five hundred sixty million in
Lend-Lease, which is more than we are committed to you.

They have got fifty million dollars of Stabilization
credit that they haven't used a dollar of, and I said,
"T. V. Soong explains it that the Generalissimo wants a
billion dollars in reserve to use when he sees fit." He
said, "They can't use it. How can they get it in there?"
I said, "I agree, and that is what is bothering me."

Then I said, "How are things going with you up on
the White Sea?" He said Archangel is open, but he said,
"We are not getting any material," and he said, "We have
had three ships this month, plus nine carried over from
last month, If and he said, When I go to the Maritime
Commission they say, 'We will let you have the ships, but
you have no tanks and planes to put on the ships.' And I
go to the Army and they say, 'What is the use of giving
you any tanks or planes, because you have no ships?'" He

said, The net result is, we get no ships." I said,
"Well, we have got a lot of stuff in storage for you,
waiting.' He said, "I know, but we can't get the tanks and
the planes and I am just shoved from one department to

another." He said, "I am seeing Stettinius about it this

afternoon."

He then asked me whether I wouldn't come and have

lunch with him sometime and I said well, very frankly I
didn't like to go out to lunch but if he would ask me

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for a family supper some evening I would be glad to do
that.

At least I am getting a little information.
MR. WHITE: Yes, but I think you have no choice. I
think you have to separate -H.M.JR.: I have, Harry, but I mean I am doing my
own thinking on the thing.
MR. WHITE: I think as a Cabinet member you can

object. As Secretary of the Treasury, you have to go
right along a hundred percent.

H.M.JR.: It is just the other way around. As a

Cabinet member I have got to go along. As Secretary of

the Treasury, I can protest. But don't let's quibble.

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January 29, 1942
11:25 a.m.

AID TO CHINA

Present: Mr. White

Mr. Southard

Mr. Viner
Mr. Bernstein

Mr. E. M. Bernstein

Mr. Friedman
Mr. Coe

H.M.JR: My God, are these fellows all experts?
MR. WHITE: Yes, sir, very good ones, too. Best

there are.

H.M.JR: Best available?

MR. WHITE: I think I was right the first time.
liled 1/02-

H.M.JR: On this cable from Gauss of the seventeenth
which was forwarded to me on the twenty-first, is there
anything in from Gauss since then.

MR. WHITE: That is the last one I have had reference to. Has there been anything since then?
MR. FRIEDMAN: No.

H.M.JR: There is nothing since then?
MR. WHITE: Nothing since.

H.M.JR: Then the whole business is based on that?

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-2MR. WHITE: Oh, no, sir, there are prior cables-H.M.JR: But this is the most recent?
MR. WHITE: The next previous important one, the
only one of previous importance from Gauss, is on December
31. filed 1/93H.M.JR: What?

MR. WHITE: December 31. I have a copy here, but

I haven't a full copy. There have been numerous other
means of communication which are not represented by

cables from Gauss to us that I imagine the State Depart-

ment has received.

H.M.JR: Here I pick up a draft of a statement by
the President on the loan to China. Who did that?
MR. WHITE: It was prepared here during my

absence, several drafts. One was a release of the

statement in the event that one was to have been made

at that time.

MR. COE: That is right. That is when you (Secretary) were seeing the President.
MR. WHITE: Yes. I don't know who worked on it.
MR. SOUTHARD: Coe and Friedman.

MR. WHITE: Coe and Friedman.

H.M.JR: Where is the Gauss cable?

MR. WHITE: It is dated December 31, 1941. I have

a copy here, but it is a poor one.

H.M.JR: I can't read those copies. Here, I have
got it. December 21.
MR. WHITE: Thirty-first.

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H.M.JR: Twenty-first, I have got it. Number
five fifteen?
MR. WHITE: Number five forty-nine.

H.M.JR: Supposing I read this one?

MR. WHITE: Well, that goes back still further.

Here is a little better copy.

MR. FRIEDMAN: That is a complete file up to the

last date of all cables.

H.M.JR: Let me see your file. Have you got a

cable there?

I will tell you what I would like one of your boys
to do, Harry, just as fast as possible. I would like

a little time-table prepared for my book, you see, such-

and-such a day, Ambassador Gauss sent cable urgning this

or Sir Otto Niemeyer did this, and then - I mean, just

a little time-table that I could refer to, you see.

MR. WHITE: I know just what you want. When
Secretary Hull - the State Department made inquiry and
so forth.

H.M.JR: But very much digested. This thing here,
everything that I have got is in here, and I wonder

if this last thing is in here from - yes.

MR. WHITE: Phillips? That is there.

H.M.JR: That is in there, too. But they are

waiting for an answer from me?
MR. WHITE: They are.

H.M.JR: I have got an appointment with Mr. Hull
at ten-thirty tomorrow morning. His people said at

first he couldn't see me and all of that. He is sick

and can't see anybody.

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MR. WHITE: Does he know the subject?

H.M.JR: Oh, yes. Then he said the matter is a
political one and he doesn't know the details, and I
said, "That is why I want to see you, because it is

a political one and not a banking proposition. I
would like to do whatever you want." I mean, it is
political. It is nothing that - nothing financial.
The President's letter isn't here.
MR. WHITE: Which?

H.M.JR: The President's letter.
MR. SOUTHARD: The last note to you?

H.M.JR: Yes. Yes, this is January 26. You see,

he comes back again to the payment of the troops, the
President.

Now, Mr. Hull has never seen that thing from the

President, and I think that I ought to send it over to

his house today and simply say: "My dear Cordell,

the President returned to me the correspondence between
T. V. Soong and myself of January 21 and attached thereto
a memorandum, a photostat of which you will find enclosed

herewith.

"On receipt of this memorandum of the twenty-sixth

from the President, I sent the following letter to Dr.

Soong, copy of which I enclose herewith."

So that makes my record straight, you see.
MR. WHITE: And Soong's answer. I think there

is a letter from Soong, isn't there?
H.M.JR: No. He has had that. I sent Hull a
copy of Soong's letter, you see. I think that is complete. You can go over it, but the point that I make,
Hull doesn't know that I have had an answer from the
President. He doesn't know what is in it. Too, he
doesn't know that I subsequently wrote Soong. Now,

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that could be written, checking it with my stuff here,
and then it could go up to his apartment this afternoon.
MR. WHITE: Do you want his record to be complete?
H.M.JR: What?

MR. WHITE: Do you want Hull's record to be com-

plete?

H.M.JR: Yes.

MR. WHITE: We will add some sentence to that

effect, that we think this completes his record.
H.M.JR: Of my-

MR. WHITE: Yes, because Mr. Hornbeck told me

that Mr. Hull did not know about the proposal of the
payment of currency. They heard it, I think, from
Hornbeck.

H.M.JR: From Hornbeck?

MR. WHITE: That is what Hornbeck told me.

H.M.JR: Well, that is what Hornbeck was here for.
MR. COE: You instructed him to pass it on.
MR. WHITE: That was not the impression I got on
the phone. You were listening, Southard.
MR. SOUTHARD: Hornbeck said that Mr. Hull's only
knowledge of it was through him, Hornbeck.

H.M.JR: Well, there was no other way he could get

it. Hornbeck was here, and I called up Mr. Hull as I

remember it, somebody check my memory, and said, "Who
do you want over here," If and he sent Hornbeck over here.

MR. WHITE: That is right. I remember that.

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H.M.JR: And then I particularly told Hornbeck

to tell Mr. Hull. I don't know what you are going to

do with these old men. I go over to see Mr. Stimson
this morning. I sent him a copy of my correspondence

with the President, and he said, "I never saw it.
I said, "How do I get something to you so that you will
read it?" I sent him a copy of my letter to the President, and he said, "Well, I have no memory of it. Maybe
I read it, but I can't remember it."
MR. WHITE: All right.
H.M.JR: That is why I want my - you see, I wrote
the President on receipt of the letter from Chiang Kaishek. I sent a copy to State, War, and Navy. Now the

President comes back to me and says - writes to me, and

then I write to Soong. So I think this time when you
send this thing, I want Mr. - say to Mr. Hull, "I want
your record complete," and I can put on Hull's letter

outside, copy to the Secretary of War and Navy, and then
that makes their record complete, too.
Mr. Stimson is very much interested, and he was

very helpful this morning. But that ought to go out
right after lunch.
MR. WHITE: All right.

H.M.JR: Jake, what do you think I ought to do?

MR. VINER: Well, I think we discussed it this
morning, and Harry - we all agree absolutely, so I think
Harry ought to tell you.

H.M.JR: All right.
MR. WHITE: Well, it can be stated very briefly.
H.M.JR: Talk louder, Harry.
MR. WHITE: It can be stated very briefly.
H.M.JR: I mean, I am not used to this Southern

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Portuguese accent.

MR. WHITE: All right, I will bellow. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: I mean, you are back in Washington, you
know, where we fight. In Washington.

MR. WHITE: Right. The only difference is, you

mean you fight in the open here. We are in agreement

with you, I think, completely, that the question of
whether financial assistance shall be given, how much
shall be given, and the timing, is one in which the
Treasury is in no position to determine in view of the
fact that the financial assistance has been requested
both by the President and by the State Department as

wholly a political matter, and therefore the decision
on the question of assistance is one that lies outside
the purview of the Treasury. That if financial assistance is to be given, there are three methods by which
it may be given. One, through Lend-Lease, which would
require some Congressional action in the alteration of
the Lend-Lease Bill as at present contemplated; two,
through an out-right Congressional special act; three,

through the Stabilization Fund. We think that all

three methods ought to be explained to the President,
Secretary Hull, and the Congressional leaders, and the

selection of the methods should be left to them, after
having made it perfectly clear that if it is to be done
through the Stabilization Fund that it is a character
quite different than previous stabilization funds inasmuch as the risk of return is so great as to make it

virtually in the nature of a gift. The advantage of
giving it through the Stabilization Fund, as it appears
to us, are several. One, it could be done with the
least legislative difficulty. After the conference,
the Committee approval which you may seek, et cetera,

is given; two, it would avoid the question of discussion
as to interest rate and repayment, et cetera, because
the arrangement could be made in - different from prior
arrangements. No rate would be selected, either as to
purchase or repurchase, nor time, so that there would
be no--

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MR. VINER: No interest rate.

no interest rate and no rate of
repurchase. Thirdly, financially and from the point
MR. WHITE:

of view of the Treasury, you probably would have a
greater chance of getting something back in the future
if you had yuan. They will be probably worth something;

and, forthly, it does mean that during the post war re-

construction period and subsequent to that, you may be
able to do more with China and through China by having
those yuan which you own than might be the case if it

were an outright grant or loan. The disadvantage of

course is that it is of a character quite other than

you have hitherto contemplated, but the President may

not wish the matter to be explored in the open as it
would have to be if it were a Congressional act or a
Lend-Lease act. He may feel that this is a very
desirable way out for him, but we all agree and feel
sure that you would feel so too, that you would under-

take it only if the record is definitely clear that the

arrangement is undertaken for political purposes.
H.M.JR: Were you through?

MR. WHITE: The third, as to what conditions and
what other methods shall be employed in the actual
use of the fund is something that can be determined
only after a decision is made as to which one of those
three methods is to be used.

H.M.JR: Well, now, let me see if I can state the
way I feel. I have had quite a lot of time to think
about this thing. From the attitude of the President,
Mr. Hull, and Mr. Stimson, who all think - and General
Marshall - that it is necessary, I am naturally willing
to be guided by their opinion as to the military neces-

sity. It isn't political, it is military. Or political,

or both. It is both military and political. They think
so. I don't feel it is as urgent as they do, but that
is neither here nor there. Therefore, I think if you

gentlemen could, so that I could have it by four o'clock,

prepare a memorandum that I could present to Mr. Hull

on the following lines, simply say: "My dear Mr. Hull,

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I would like to give you a memorandum which -"if there

is anything - he has written me so many - I think he
wrote me a definite letter where he asked for-MR. WHITE: Definite letter.

H.M.JR: I think we ought to answer that letter
tomorrow, you see. Monday didn't he say he wanted three
hundred million dollars?
MR. WHITE: It was before Monday.

H.M.JR: It only arrived here Monday. That was the
thing that descended on me Monday. It was that letter.
MR. WHITE: That letter was in response to a meeting which we had had and which they had asked for this

loan, and I said that before we bring it to the

Secretary's attention for decision that he would want

a letter from Secretary Hull stating it.
H.M.JR: No, this is a second letter. This is a
letter - this is a second letter. I have had two
letters.
MR. BERNSTEIN: The second one you are referring

to, Mr. Secretary, was a short letter from Mr. Hull

enclosing a memorandum that Mr. Berle and Mr. Feis
wrote, but that simply sent the Berle memorandum to
you.

MR. WHITE: He said for your information.

MR. BERNSTEIN: It was the first letter that Mr.

Hull wrote in which he mentioned the recommendation.

MR. WHITE: I have it here. It is answering your
note to hand of yesterday relative to the proposed
Chinese loan proposition, "I herewith enclose for

whatever it may be worth to you and your associates

some memoranda on the subject prepared by some of my

associates here. C. H."

And the memorandum is one apparently prepared by

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Berle. It has Berle's initials, but presumably from
the State Department, in which they recommend a loan
of five hundred million dollars and in which they hope
that there shall be no special conditions and indicate
the purposes - the general objectives of the loan.
H.M.JR: Five hundred million?
MR. WHITE: They recommend five hundred million.

The Secretary of State had said three hundred million.
They feel, according to Hornbeck, they are not in
agreement with the Secretary on that matter. They feel
it should be five hundred, but they feel that we ought
to give what they have asked for.
H.M.JR: Who thinks that?
MR. WHITE: According to Hornbeck, everybody but

Secretary Hull. They said Secretary Hull just picked
the figure three hundred from the air on the usual

basis that if they asked for five they will take three.
MR. SOUTHARD: They say that Mr. Hull's official

position still is as in the letter of January 10.
MR. WHITE: Which asks for three.
MR. SOUTHARD: Three hundred million.

MR. WHITE: I have that here.

H.M.JR: I can't find this thing here. Incidentally,

have I sent this Eden memorandum around?

MR. WHITE: No, you have not.

H.M.JR: Well, that ought to be sent to Hull.
MR. WHITE: That is right.

H.M.JR: I think I sent it to the President.
did.

We will see when Chauncey gets in here. I think I

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MR. WHITE: Well, that should go to everyone to
whom the previous letter went.
(Miss Chauncey entered the conference.)

H.M.JR: Come on, Miss Chauncey. I am waiting

here. Sit down. Miss Chauncey, did I send the President a memorandum from Mr. Eden?

MISS CHAUNCEY: No, sir. That came in yesterday.

H.M.JR: I have not?
MISS CHAUNCEY: You sent photostats to Dr. White
and Mr. Bell.

H.M.JR: Well, then let's send a copy to the
President and a copy - a letter to the President and
on the outside of the President's letter say copy to
State, War, and Navy, see.

Now, where is the letter that came in Monday from

Mr. Hull? I mean, I can't find it. The dates don't

seem to be consecutive at all. The one from Mr. Hull
to me. (Filed January 24, 1942.)

MR. WHITE: It is on the twenty-fourth.

H.M.JR: I can't find it.
MISS CHAUNCEY: It isn't a letter. It is this
little memo of transmittal with Mr. Hull's initials.

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H.M.JR: Sit down, MISS Chauncey.

Let's put it this way. I think we have had all

of these papers, and they are quite obviously over there
at the State Department trying to build up a written
record, and when I go back over there tomorrow, I want

a written record, and I want to be able to say to Mr.

Hull, "In answer to your letter of the - " the first

one, in which he asked for three hundred, in answer
to the second memorandum which I got - let's say it is
on the twenty-fourth.
MR. SOUTHARD: Twenty-sixth.

H.M.JR: "We in the Treasury and also in view of
the written request from the President and also I have
consulted with Mr. Stimson and General Marshall, we

are prepared to go forward with these financial arrange-

ments."

MR. WHITE: Do you want to mention that you--

H.M.JR: Wait a minute.
MR. WHITE:

talked with Stimson?

H.M.JR: Wait a minute. "However, inasmuch as this

is largely a political and military matter, I would like

you to advise me - 11 no, it isn't necessary. He has told
me.

MR. WHITE: He has told you very clearly.

H.M.JR: Then my answer is, "I am ready to pro-

ceed," you see.

MR. BERNSTEIN: Harry, did you mention to the

Secretary Berle's call yesterday?

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- 13 H.M.JR: Wait a minute. Then the answer would
be, "I am ready to proceed." Now, would you say in
that thing how?
MR. WHITE: I would say, "There is appended a
memorandum which indicates the three possible methods

of procedure that might--"

H.M.JR: That is right. "Pending here is three

possible ways," and I would say further, "Lend-Lease,

direct appropriation from Congress, or the Stabilization

Fund. Then I would like to say, In the use of the
Stabilization fund, I would like to point out that we

can not use it without getting Congressional action on
account of--"
MR. VINER: Leaders.
MR. WHITE: Committee.

support similar to the one where you
assisted me. You remember you assisted me. Similar
to the one where you assisted me. "I also would like to
H.M.JR:

point out that this is not the purpose for which the
Stabilization Fund was created, and I hope that you
will consider it last," see. I want to put that in.
This will be the last one.
MR. VINER: I would say, "Can be brought only

with difficulty within the compass of the proposal."
You mustn't say in the record that it is not the purpose.
H.M.JR: I accept that advice and suggestion, but

I would like to get over so that we think this is the
last.

Now, my purpose in calling on you today is to ask

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you to advise me how you would like me to proceed

from this point.

In other words, throwing it back into his lap.
"I am back here, I have got these letters, I have consulted with you and the President and so forth and
so on--" "

MR. VINER: And say you will move at once on

receipt of their advice.

H.M.JR: "We are ready to proceed at once. We
are ready to move - proceed upon receipt of your
advice.

"

Would you put in that we have also consulted

with Stimson and Marshall?

MR. WHITE: I don't think so, Mr. Secretary, I
don't quite see that that would-MR. VINER: That would mean that you had checked
up on the State Department.

H.M.JR: All right. But what I am trying to get,
I have never had them build up such a written record
on me. Now, I think we ought to - and they are very

obviously - they are Pearl Harbor conscious.
MR. WHITE: We will do the same.

H.M.JR: So we will do the same, and we will come

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back and I am there saying I am ready to go ahead just

as soon as you tell me, and so forth and so on, but it
certainly should be done; certainly one, two three,
four, five, six, seven people ought to be able to
get me a memorandum.

Now, Bernie, what is burning you up?
MR. BERNSTEIN: Nothing is burning me up, I just

wanted as part of the record, they always have an
oral record.

Aside from the meeting we had at State the other
day, Berle called yesterday morning.

H.M.JR: Well, can I have that at four o'clock,
gentlemen?
MR. WHETEYe Yes, you may.

H.M.JR: Do you need this book to work from?
MR. WHITE: No, I think we have everything there.

If necessary, we will get it.
H.M.JR: Good.

MR. WHITE: There is one point. As I read Secre-

tary Hull's letter, it appears to me that he very
definitely asks in amounts up to three hundred million,
and therefore we shouldn't mention any amount, because

we certainly oughtn't to go higher than anything he

recommends, despite the comments of the State Depart-

ment, so that let them state both the amount, timing,
and so forth.

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H.M.JR: That is right, but we are ready to go
ahead. Throwing it back in his lap. I am here, the
purpose of my call is that there are three ways to do
this thing, pointing out that we would like to do

the Stabilization Fund route the least - at least, I

would, but I am here to proceed at once. What?

MR. WHITE: Would you want to set forth the pros and cons
of each method or leave that out?

H.M.JR: Oh, I would leave it out. It will save you
people - you all think the Stabilization Fund is the
easiest way, and I don't want to do it that way. Don't
forget there is another way which you should mention.
The President said he is willing to finance it out of

his own war chest.

MR. VINER: Yes, but he didn't have in mind five

hundred million.

MR. WHITE: Well, we don't know the amount.

H.M.JR: But that is another way. The President
said, "I am willing, as Commander-in-Chief, to finance

it out of the war chest.

MR. WHITE: Well, I think that should be mentioned,

and let him turn it down.

H.M.JR: Out of his war chest. I think it is two

hundred million dollars.

MR. VINER: That would be --

H.M.JR: But Jake, on the basis of twenty-five

dollars - twenty-five million dollars a month, that

would go quite a long ways.

MR. VINER: You can't tie the State Department's

hands on a monthly basis.

H.M.JR: You certainly can't overlook the fact that
the President did say he was willing to do it out of his

own funds.

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- 17 MR. WHITE: That is a decision they can make, Jack,

that it doesn't suit their purpose, but as far as the
Secretary is concerned, he outlines these possibilities.
MR. VINER: But you don't want to indicate that
we are pulling them down to these lower dimensions.

H.M.JR: But how do you know the President can't
get more funds?

MR. VINER: But the State Department hasn't put their
views before the President. The State Department has
protested that it has been handled that way.
H.M.JR: Which way?

MR. VINER: That the State Department did not get
the chance to present their views.

H.M.JR: Well, whose fault was that? Whose fault

was it? Mr. Hull is vocal. He can still walk. He
can go across the street just the way I can.
MR. VINER: Well, you moved fast.

H.M.JR: Well, I thought they said I didn't move
fast enough.

MR. VINER: You moved fast on seeing the President,
and Hornbeck protested.

MR. WHITE: Well, I think that is true. None
the less, it is also true that since you are taking
this position in the letter that you are doing this as
a political measure. You are listing all the reasons
and you are merely asking which way is more suitable
to them.

H.M.JR: Jake, you could take some out of the President's fund, and some out of the Stabilization, and some
out of some other.

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MR. VINER: You could say in part, because I don't
want the record to show that you were pulling back or
holding back.

H.M.JR: We will say in part from the President's

funds.

MR. VINER: You want to make it all cooperative,
and not with your acting as a brake in any way.
H.M.JR: What does he answer me on the 24th?

MR. WHITE: The note in which I think you sent
him a - you informed him of the answer you got from
Chiang Kai-shek.

H.M.JR: I see. Now, somebody is going to write that

letter. There are two letters that have to be written.
You are writing one, Miss Chauncey.
MISS CHAUNCEY: To the President.

H.M.JR: Copy to State, War, and Navy, and the one

to go up to Mr. Hull's house, and your (White's) people

are to write another one just to State on the stuff that
I got from the President, and also the stuff that I got -

my answer to T.V. Soong.

MR. WHITE: That is right.

H.M.JR: And that is to go - a copy of that is to

go War and Navy.

MR. WHITE: Then there is a third letter which you
were to send today with reference to your meeting
tomorrow morning accompanying the memorandum and a --

MR. VINER: A chronological outline of the record.

H.M.JR: If I could have that all at four o'clock.
We will do it all then. There is no use doing it more
than once. And if anybody has any bright ideas,

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independently, bring them in. Are you satisfied,
gentlemen, to follow it this way?
MR. WHITE: I think that is right.
MR. SOUTHARD: That leaves the timing up to the

Secretary of State.

H.M.JR: Which it should be.
MR. SOUTHARD: Yes.

MR. WHITE: The timing and the amount should be

left with State. There is one thing that occurs
to me. You are leaving the President out of this
completely, which in view of the President's instructions
to you, may or may not be all right. I am not quite
certain.

H.M.JR: How do you mean?

MR. WHITE: Well, the President asked you to do
something.

H.M.JR: Well, I am -MR. WHITE: You are just turning this right back

on the State Department.

H.M.JR: No, I am going to the State Department

to see Mr. Hull to work it out with him. The President
doesn't know about all this written record between us.
MR. SOUTHARD: The President's memorandum said when

Fox arrived you could proceed on this. Would it be possible
for you to hand a four line note back to the President
saying that due to the delay of Fox, you were getting
together with the Secretary of State immediately on
this?

H.M.JR: Take this to the President when I send him

this thing. Say, "My dear Mr. President: I am sending

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you enclosed herewith a copy of a memorandum left
to me" - "given to me by" - well, "from the British
Treasury." Paragraph.

"I tried to see Cordell Hull today. Unfortunately
he is home sick. In regard to the Chinese question" "Chinese matter" - "and I have had a number of" - what
did I say?

MISS CHAUNCEY: "I tried to see Cordell Hull today
in regard to the Chinese matter, but unfortunately he
is home sick."
H.M.JR: What did I say? Excuse me, again.
MISS CHAUNCEY: "I tried to see Cordell Hull today

in regard to the Chinese matter, but unfortunately

he is home sick."

H.M.JR: Yes. "Members of the State Department
staff have been pressing members of my staff that

we should not wait until the return of Mr. Fox, who
has been delayed in transit."
MR. VINER: "Has been seriously delayed."

H.M.JR: "Seriously delayed. In view of this, I

have arranged to see Cordell Hull tomorrow at his
office" - "arranged to see Cordell Hull tomorrow, and
hope to work out with his assistance a plan for China."

MR. WHITE: I don't quite like saying that they

are pressing us and therefore you are responding.

Could we say, which is true --

H.M.JR: Well, write the letter out and let
these fellows fix it up, and they can bring that in.
How is that? But that makes it clear, why I am going
over there. Why not simply leave that out and simply
say, "in view of the delay of Fox" -MR. VINER: We are moving ahead. You are moving
ahead with Hull.

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January 29, 1942
4:15 p.m.

AID TO CHINA

Present:

Mr. White

Mr. Bernstein
Mr. Viner
Mr. Coe

Mr. Friedman
Mr. Southard

H.M.JR: I am sorry, gentlemen, but Mr. Roosevelt

called and I had to take care of him.

MR. VINER: It was a godsend for us.

H.M.JR: Good. Fifty-five percent of the firms

employing five hundred or more people now have payroll
deduction plans and from a hundred to five hundred,
twenty-two percent. Not bad.
MR. WHITE: Does that mean everybody in the

country, or just that the companies make it available?
H.M.JR: No, that is the number of employees that

are on the Social Security list. I mean, that is the

way we count them. I mean, if we say a company has
nine hundred employees, that means nine hundred are
under Social Security.

MR. WHITE: And that they are subscribing to--

MR. VINER: No, no, it is voluntary.
MR. WHITE: Then there is no indication from that
how many of the employees are taking advantage of the
proposal?

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-2MR. VINER: He has other data, I think, on that.
MR. WHITE: Oh!

H.M.JR: But I meant of the employees - he has the
whole breakdown. We won't bother with it now.

MR. WHITE: We will first do the letter that you

wished to send to the President.

H.M.JR: We got less? We had seven people this
morning. Did a couple of them get sick?

MR. WHITE: Just one - I had other things that had

to be done.

H.M.JR: You had other work to do?
MR. WHITE: I didn't know you would miss him.

(Laughter) He is a very good man, but--

H.M. JR: He almost said, "Other work which is more
important, and then he caught himself.
him.

MR. WHITE: Well, I think it is more important for
H.M.JR: You see he goes down to Rio with Sumner

Welles and what it does for him.

MR. VINER: He is not really telling you the truth.
MR. WHITE: Am I not?
MR. VINER: No.

MR. WHITE: I don't know who you meant.
MR. SOUTHARD: E. M. Bernstein

MR. VINER: Oh, I see.

MR. WHITE: You notice I didn't deny that I wasn't

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telling the truth because it does happen.

H.M.JR: Is there anything else to the President?
MR. WHITE: Not to the President. The next is

the letter to Cordell Hull with the enclosures.

H.M.JR: Now, you are not sending anything to State,

War, and Navy on this?

MR. WHITE: Yes, these photostats.

H.M.JR: Oh, but not my letter - I see.
MR. WHITE: No, those are just form letters.

H.M.JR: That is all right.
MR. WHITE: And the next is the letter to Hull
which I gather that you want to take with you.
H.M.JR: And isn't there one to Stimson here?
MR. SOUTHARD: You signed only one, Mr. Secretary.

There are two there together.

H.M.JR: Now, does that complete that?
MR. WHITE: That completes that. The only question
in our minds was whether you necessarily wanted to tell
either Stimson or Knox or Hull or Welles who were getting

copies.

H.M.JR: No.

MR. WHITE: It is not on there.
H.M.JR: Did he say that?
MR. WHITE: By indirection and through somebody.

H.M.JR: He didn't say that.

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MR. WHITE: Yes, that is - Hornbeck reported to
us when he thought we ought to go forward with it now,
and I answered by saying that it was my understanding

that he was to wait until Mr. Fox had returned.

H.M.JR: Well, do you mind? Have you got a

pencil there? Because I would like to put it this way.

'I am in complete accord with what - with what Mr.
Hornbeck reports to me as the view of your Department."
Now, that gives him a chance to say, "That isn't my
view."

MR. WHITE: That is better.

H.M.JR: Because this isn't accurate. "I am in
complete accord with what Mr. Hornbeck reports to my

Department." They didn't talk to me, "As being the
view of the State Department, you see.
MR. WHITE: That would be strictly accurate.

H.M.JR: I want it strictly accurate, because the
reason I say that is when they brought up the stuff well, just take this thing of Mr. Hull saying he didn't
know when we told Hornbeck to let him know. What?
MR. WHITE: He only knew through Hornbeck.

H.M.JR: Well, take the other example, that when

they tried to clear this thing with Hull about this
resolution and Hull says, "Well, no one has ever told
me about this before. Well, let's keep it - I don't

have to give you - I can give you a thousand examples.

Let's keep it strictly accurate. It is Hornbeck-MR. WHITE: I think it sounds a little pedantic
because, after all, I suppose Hornbeck has the right

to speak for the Secretary, but in this occasion it
may be all right.

H.M.JR: We are trying to make a record. Hull
has never said this.

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-5MR. WHITE: All right.
H.M.JR: Do you mind?

MR. WHITE: Not at all.
H.M.JR: Thank you. I want to be pedantic. "My
only scale of preference"?
MR. WHITE: "My own preference," I think is better.
We can word that differently. "My own feeling is," or "my

own belief," or "my opinion, or "I should prefer, of the
alternatives. I should least prefer of the alternatives.

H.M.JR: Well, Something. I don't like this

"my own scale." My own preference would be to rank

the Stabilization Fund last, because of the special char-

acter of the proposed financial aid. I will lay it out,
and you fellows can just change it a little bit,
something like that. I think that last paragraph is a
little gratuitous.
MR. SOUTHARD: It suggests a mode of --

H.M.JR: I think it is a little gratuitous.
MR. WHITE: It has the value, although as you read

it over I don't quite like the way it is stated, but

it does have the value of indicating for the record
again that you feel that the selection as among those
choices should be made in collaboration with or by
Congressional leaders and the President. The earlier
part of the letter almost seems to suggest that you are
going to take his advice as to the procedures, and I
don't really think that that is what you are going to do,
because you certainly - if he says the Stabilization Fund
you will certainly raise it with the President and
with the Congressional leaders, so that I think something
is necessary, though as you read it I don't think it
is quite the way it should be there.
MR. VINER: I think if you send it tomorrow before

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-6you go, that paragraph is all right. He has got something

to think over, that is all.

MR. BERNSTEIN: I think it also has the merit he may feel that if you suggest only those things which

require Congressional legislation, that there will be

such a long delay as to defeat the whole purpose, and
you come along with the suggestion that legislation
or Congressional approval will not necessarily involve
delay,

MR. VINER: I think that last paragraph should go in,
and therefore I think you should send the letter to him
today.

H.M.JR: I will send it tonight to his house.
MR. VINER: And let him have a chance to know what

you are going to tell him tomorrow, to think it over.

H.M.JR: I think if it went up to his house tonight
it would be all right.
MR. WHITE: I think it is better than coming in
with a letter, myself.
H.M.JR: I think so. That would be dated today.

That gives --

MR. SOUTHARD: We could rewrite that one sentence

and mention the meeting for tomorrow.

MR. WHITE: It can easily be adapted and it is a

little bit unusual, isn't it, Mr. Secretary, for you to
come with a letter for him to read?

H.M.JR: Yes, but you don't say anything about "I am looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.
MR. VINER: You could say, "I arranged for a confer-

ence."

MR. SOUTHARD: On the first page.

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MR. VINER: Have you got a copy of it there?
H.M.JR: "Have requested a conference with you

tomorrow." If I am gone, Harry, let one of ycur boys
bring it up for signature and wait.
MR. WHITE: We will take care of it.

H.M.JR: And wait and then they can take it right
on over to Mr. Hull. It would have to be at the house
before seven.

MR. WHITE: We can do this inside of fifteen minutes.

H.M.JR: Sez you. Well, if you can, I may still

be here.

MR. WHITE: Well, if you are here you will sign it,
and if you are not, it will be sent to your house and
the man will wait and after your signature, bring it
to Secretary Hull's house.
H.M.JR: That is right.
MR. WHITE: There is one other item. Oh yes,

at what point do you want to inform the British in these
discussions? I think you said, and Hull requested in
his letter, that they keep currently informed.

H.M.JR: Well, I certainly wouldn't - there is
this letter that has gone to the President and this
letter that has gone to Hull. I think sometime after
the meeting tomorrow.

MR. WHITE: After the meeting tomorrow you will
let them know what you have decided to let them know?
H.M. JR: Yes, but when I go into that meeting
tomorrow I want my time-table.
MR. WHITE: We have a preliminary draft here.

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H.M.JR: Fix it up and give it to me tomorrow

morning when I come down.

MR. WHITE: That is all.
Here is a cable that was just handed to me that

bears on this subject. I think you might want to read

it.

H.M.JR: Please.

MR. WHITE: I have only a carbon.

H.M.JR: Read it out loud, then.
MR. WHITE: Some of it bears and some doesn't.
This is dated the 25th from Chungking from Gauss.

H.M.JR: When is it dated?
MR. WHITE: The 25th of January.

H.M.JR: That is wonderful, and we get it today,

the 29th.

MR. WHITE: "The formation of a committee in Chung-

king to coordinate allied approach to financial and economic problems in China, particularly with respect to the
utility of any foreign credits that may be granted to

China, has been suggested by the British Embassy. The
British Embassy suggests that the Allied Economic Council,
the committee" --

I never heard that name, so that must be a new
phrase.

comprise two Chinese, two British, two Americans,
and possibly one Dutch, one Australian member. One of

the British and one of the Americans to be from the
Embassy staffs. The Chairman and the Secretary to be
Chinese. The Embassy says that Mr. A.A. Kung, Minister

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of Finance, knows of the suggestion and has indicated

he approves it. Also that the Minister of Finance
desires that the Council should be established without
reference to proposed credits, that is, that the
Council be charged with making economic studies and
recommendations."

H.M.JR: Who suggested it?

MR. WHITE: This is apparently -- it is the British
Embassy, but this is what Niemeyer has been suggesting
for four months. That is what he went over for.
"

the Council be charged with making economic
studies and recommendations, but that when the credits

are granted, the Council also interest itself in

problems connected with their effective utilization.

The British Ambassador is prepared to approve the scheme.
Provided such a body is given scope and authority ready

to accomplish something, I can see its utility, however,
as a result of seeing at first hand how inclined the
Chinese authorities are toward side-tracking foreign
economic advisors and disregarding their advice, I am

sceptical of the practical benefit to be derived from

organizing an Economic Council which may find itself

either in the position of being politely ignored or

simply rubber stamping what the Chinese want done.

I could approve the establishment of a Council of capable

men who are competent to study and make decisions on the
serious economic problems in China, and to supervise

the discussion of remedial measures, provided it were
given definite authority under a loan or credit agreement,
but I do not think that the Chinese would be prepared to
agree to the handling of Chinese internal problems

by such foreign participation."

H.M.JR: That can wait until Fox can get back.

MR. WHITE: Yes. They would like to have it tied
to this arrangement. Dr. Fox will be in Washington in

a few days and it might be advantageous to discuss the
matter with him.

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- 10 MR. VINER: Did you tell him about the cable

to Fox?

MR. WHITE: It is Jack's idea we send a cable to
Fox asking us to give us -MR. VINER: Asking him.

MR. WHITE: Asking him to give us a resume of what
the Generalissimo told him, which need not hinder things.

MR. VINER: It may give us an inside dope.

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AN 2 9 1942

My dear Mr. President:

I am sending you herewith a copy of a

letter from the British Treasury on the question of a further loan to China.
We were informed, you will remember, that
the Generalissimo was sending Mr. A. M. Fox to
Washington to present the Generalissimo's views

on this loan. We have just learned that Mr. Fox

has been held up en route because of lack of
transportation and may not arrive for some time.
We are, therefore, going forward at once with
the Chinese loan discussion.

I tried to see Cordell Hall today but
unfortunately he is home sick. I have arranged

& conference with him tomorrow and I hope we will
have
a proposal to report to you immediately
thereafter.

Faithfully,
(Signed) E. Morgenthan, IF
The President,
The White House.

Delivered by
Search Orenth
Service 4:35
Ralph
&

n.m.c.
Copies Ka Drw hites office
HDW:dmh

1-29-42.

909 Willard Hotel,

Washington, D.C.,
January 27, 1942.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

CHINA
Mr. Eden has now telegraphed that he and
the Chancellor of the Exchequer have considered with
every sympathy General Chiang Kai-shek's recent

request for financial assistance. They propose to

inform him that His Majesty's Government have decided
to make available to China under a lend-lease
arrangement all munitions and military equipment that

it is possible for them to supply. In particular this

proposal would apply to stores which are being supplied
to Chinese forces now operating in Burma.

Before communicating this proposal to General
Chiang Kai-shek His Majesty's Government wish to make
sure that it will fit in with any proposal which the
United States Government have in mind.

As regards a further financial loan, His
Majesty's Government are ready to go forward with the
scheme for a loan of 610 millions and $50 millions

worked out by Sir Otto Niemeyer and Mr. Arthur Young
if the United States Government are ready to take

parallel action. But they do not feel able to offer

a very large "psychological" sterling loan. Such a
sterling loan would not be of actual help in present
circumstances. After the war it would represent
money available to China for the purchase either of
goods or of gold and dollars and we should be

deliberately adding to future difficulties in securing

the equilibrium of our post-war balance of payments.
The United States Government is in a position to take
an independent decision, should they wish not only
to take part in the Niemeyer-Young scheme, but also

to offer further dollar loans. His Majesty's

Government are merely stating their own position.
Yours sincerely,

Hhillips
The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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JAN 29 1942

My dear Cordell:

The President returned to me the letter which
I received from T. V. Seong, dated January 21, 1942,
and attached thereto a memorandum, a photostat of
which you will find enclosed herewith. Upon receipt
of this memorandum from the President, I wrote a
letter to Dr. Soong, a copy of which I am also
enclosing.

There is also enclosed a photostat of a letter
which I received January 27, 1942, from Sir Frederick

Phillips stating the British position on the Chinese

request.

I believe that with these enclosures you now
have a complete file of my correspondence on the
China loan proposal.
Sincerely,
(Signed) E. Morgenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

(By for Delivered whis hourly

The Honorable

The Secretary of tate

Since Service 4:35)

n.m.c.
Capies to Dr w hite office
Enclosures

1/29/42.

Ret to Secup Office

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COPY
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

January 26, 1942

MEMORANDUM FOR H. M. JR.

I still think that this can be worked out as
soon as Fox gets here. If they don't want dollar
notes, why don't we buy Chinese yuans and use them

for paying for the equipment of Chinese troops in

China itself. I would be wholly willing to go up to
twenty or twenty-five million dollars a month on some
such basis.

F. D. R.

COPY

42

January 27, 1942

Dear Dr. Soong:

I have received your letter of January 21,
1942, sending to me a message from the Generalissimo.

I am glad to follow your suggestion that I wait

until Mr. Fox arrives in Washington before renewing

discussions with you. I want to assure you, in the

meantime, that the Generalissimo's request is very

much in my mind.

Sincerely yours,
(signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.

Dr. T. V. Soong,

Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Republic of China,
Chinese Embassy,

Washington, D.C.

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909 Willard Hotel,

Washington, D.C.,
January 27, 1942.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

CHINA
Mr. Eden has now telegraphed that he and
the Chancellor of the Exchequer have considered with
every sympathy General Chiang Kai-shek's recent

request for financial assistance. They propose to

inform him that His Majesty's Government have decided
to make available to China under a lend-lease
arrangement all munitions and military equipment that

it is possible for them to supply. In particular this

proposal would apply to stores which are being supplied
to Chinese forces now operating in Burma.
Before communicating this proposal to General
Chiang Kai-shek His Majesty's Government wish to make
sure that it will fit in with any proposal which the
United States Government have in mind.

As regards a further financial loan, His

Majesty's Government are ready to go forward with the
scheme for a loan of 610 millions and $50 millions
worked out by Sir Otto Niemeyer and Mr. Arthur Young
if the United States Government are ready to take

parallel action. But they do not feel able to offer

a very large "psychological" sterling loan. Such a
sterling loan would not be of actual help in present

money
forand
thewe
either
of
goods
or
be
deliberately to future in securing
circumstances. the war it would represent

the equilibrium of our balance of payments.
The United Government is in a position to take

to
take
in
the
but
also
to offer loans. His Majesty's
an independent should wish not only

Government are their position.
available part further of States gold adding merely decision, After to dollar China Niemeyer-Young dollars stating post-war and difficulties they purchase scheme, own should

Yours sincerely,

Hhillips
The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

1/31/42

44

Secretary Morgenthau handed Secretary

Jones a copy of this letter at their conference this morning.

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Treasury Department

Division of Monetary Research

To:

.

Date 1/30/42

45

19

Miss Chauncey

Mr. E. M. Bernstein took the

original of this letter to the Secy's
home last evening (about 6:15 p.m.).
Secretary Morgenthau signed it and

Mr. Bernstein delivered it to Secy.
Hull at the Wardman Park Hotel.
L. Shanahan

MR. WHITE

a

Branch 2058 - Room 214

letters
JAN 29 1942

My dear Cordell:

I am in complete accord with the view of the
State Department as reported to my Department by

Mr. Hernbeck that we should go forward with considera-

tion of the Chinese loan without waiting for Mr. Fox
to arrive here with the Generalissimo's message.
Your letter of January 10, 1942, and the State

Department nemorandum of January 23, 1942, as well as

the discussions which have been held between the officials of the two departments, inform me that the decisive considerations in the granting of financial
assistance to China at this time are political and
military. On this basis, I an prepared to go ahead
at once, and at the conference which I have arranged
with you for tomorrow, we can discuss the next steps
to be taken.

I am submitting for your consideration, the
following procedures for raising the funds to meet

the Generalissimo's requests

a. Congressional authorisation to make a loan;
b. An appropriation of funds under Lend-Lease.

I believe this would require legislation;
c. The Stabilisation Fund;

d. The President's War Chest (Perhape available
for part of the necessary funds.)

Each of these sources has, of course, advantages
and disadvantages which you may want to consider at our
meeting.

1/29/42 (6:15 p.m.) Mr. E. M. Bernstein took original of this letter to the
Secretary's home for signature. It was signed and Mr. Bernstein
delivered it to Secretary Hull at Wardman Park Hotel.

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-2As among these possible sources of funds the

Stabilisation Fund in this instance secus to me to be
the least desirable, because of the special character
of the proposed financial sid. Should it be decided

to use the will

be necessary
Congressional
Committees
same
manner as it

is December, million

You the

Chinese

President
Congressional and to

discuss the assistance.

President
an he
the Congressional
areand
the

with their

necessary finanStabilisation my Congressional and to Stabilisation leaders in clearance, alternative wish 1940, make to ourselves the obtain leaders to in to immediate consider it advise arrangement. competion the meeting methods action, would Fund approval them prepared, for the be announcement promptly of to you with possible desirability of this grant financial of and the the purpose, the subject China problem with I 650 obtained for that the of the the it to

eial assistance requested by Chieng-Kai-Shek. The do-

tails could be worked out later.

Sincerely,

1s/ Henry
Secretary of the Treasury.
The Henerable,

The Secretary of State.

HDW:5B:JVidah

1-29-42.

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January 29, 1942

My dear Frank:

I am sending you, enclosed herewith,

a copy of memorandum from the British
a

Treasury in regard to assistance to China.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) Henry

Mon. Frank Knox,

Secretary of the Navy.

By Messenger Veach 5:00

filen.m.c

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January 29, 1942
12:18 p.m.
Edward

Foley:

Smathers came in this morning, and I had a little
talk with him and I showed him the letter and the
evidence, and he said he didn't see how we could
sell the company to Gallowher under those circumstances.

HMJr:
F:

HMJr:

Good.

Then he shook hands, and he went out; so if it's
agreeable with you, I'11 put out the release and
Go ahead.

and send out the telegrams.

F:

HMJr:

Go ahead.

F:

Okay.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Thursday, January 29, 1942.

Press Service
No. 30-3

The Treasury Department today suspended Dr. Julius Weltzien,

$60,000-a-year president of Schering Corporation, Bloomfield, N. J.,
manufacturers of anti-shock vaccines, hormones, sulfa compounds
and other pharmaceutical products essential to the war effort.
Seven others were also suspended from further activity as
members of Schering's staff. Three of the seven were:
Ernst Hammer, promotion manager, salary $22,000, formerly in
the South American department of Schering A. G., Berlin, and at
one time its representative in South America.
Hans Erdmann, director of engineering and maintenance

departments, salary 10,000, formerly a designer of chemical
equipment for Schering A. G., Berlin.
Martin Bernhardt, head of the Schering legal department and
comptroller of the corporation, salary $9,400, a former vicechairman of Schering A. G., Berlin.
The suspension bars the eight individuals from the Schering
premises, blocks their personal accounts, and all employees are
forbidden to communicate with them without Treasury consent.

The Treasury Department believes that today's action smashes
completely a long-range German scheme to control an important
segment of the pharmaceutical market in the western hemisphere,

and enables the United States to take full advantage of the vital

research now under way in the Schering laboratories at Bloomfield.
Dr. Weltzien as late as 1938 held one of the most important
positions in German industry as president of Schering A. G. Berlin,
the second largest pharmaceutical corporation in Germany and the
control board of Schering's subsidiaries concentrated in South
America and other parts of the world.
As early as 1933, Schering A. G., Berlin, undertook a longrange scheme to maintain its world-wide economic position. The
Treasury charged that, as a part of this scheme, Hermann Goering
in 1937 ordered the sale of Schering's subsidiaries in the western
hemisphere to Swiss interests.

Dr. Weltzien, who personally directed the expansion of the
German Schering interests in South America and other parts of the

world, transferred his offices from Berlin to this country in 1938

when he assumed the presidency of the Bloomfield plant.

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Prior to Dr. Weltzien's entry into the United States, other

key personnel from the Schering staff in Berlin had been sent into
this country and assigned to important tasks in the Bloomfield
Schering Corporation. Hammer, Bernhardt and Erdmann were brought

here as a part of this plan, Treasury officials said.

At the outbreak of the European war the network of western
hemisphere Schering corporations, then headed by the Schering

Corporation at Bloomfield, drew closer together in the effort to
hold markets for Schering A. G., of Berlin, until the end of the
war. In addition the entire network was used as a tool to raise
foreign exchange for the Nazi regime.

The Nazi scheme showed promise of succeeding until the
Treasury Department blocked all German nationals under the

President's freezing order in June of 1941.

The Treasury blocked Schering funds on June 14, 1941, and

installed supervisory representatives in the plant shortly after
the attack on Pearl Harbor. Production of Schering's vital

pharmaceutical products has continued since June under Treasury
control.

Heretofore the United States government has been unwilling
to exchange pharmaceutical secrets with Schering Corporation in
order to further development of vital drugs because it felt that
important scientific discoveries might be made known to German
agents and benefit the Axis. With the German elements removed,
cooperative experiments will be made possible and the full benefit
of Schering's important pharmaceutical research will be made
available to the United Nations.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

52

AM

DATE January 29, 1942
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

E. H. Foley, Jr.

Attached is a memorandum from John Pehle

giving information in regard to Charles Belknap

and Samuel Richard Fuller, Jr., the individuals
mentioned by you the other morning when we were

discussing personnel for General Aniline and Film.

S.NH
Attachment

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

53

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Mr. Foley

January 28, 1942.

FROM Mr. Pehle

Mr. Charles Belknap. about whom you incurred, was born in Oakland,
Maryland, on September 6, 1880. He attended St. Paul's Preparatory
School, Concord, New Hampshire, from 1897 to 1899, and later the United
States Naval Academy, from which he was graduated in 1903, commissioned

as an ensign. On October 5. 1918 he married Miss Helen M. Rockwood of
Indianapolis, Indiana, and the following year resigned from the Navy

with the rank of commander.

Mr. Belknap was president of the General Steamship Company, San

Francisco, from 1919 to 1921, then vice-president and later president

of the Merrimack Chemical Company, Boston. Massachusetts, with which he
was associated from 1921 to 1935. The Merrimack Chemical Company was
absorbed by the Monsanto Chemical Company in 1930 and Mr. Belknap made

Executive Vice-President of the latter, which position he still occupies.

Mr. Belknap is a member of the Executive Committee of Monsanto Chemical

Company and one of its directors. In addition he is Director of the
Boatmen's National Bank, St. Louis; Chairman of the Board of the St.

Louis Chamber of Commerce; Vice-President of the Manufacturing Chemists'

Association, and Vice-President and Director of Chemists Alliance. He
is an expert chemist. His income is in excess of $30,000 a year, and
he maintains two bank accounts in St. Louis - one with the Boatmen's
National Bank and the other with the First National Bank, where his
balance is reported to be substantial. He is a Republican and an
Episcopalian. According to Mr. Clark, of the St. Louis Federal Reserve
Bank, who furnished this information, he is regarded in that city as
thoroughly reliable and dependable in every way. Mr. Clark said "Mr.
Belknap is the highest type of citizen". He is a member of a number
of exclusive St. Louis, New York, and Boston clubs.

There is nothing in our files on Mr. Belknap other than his con-

nection with Monsanto Chemical as Executive Vice-President. Monsanto
Chemical Company was organized at St. Louis, Missouri, in 1901. In 1918

the Company expanded substantially in the coal tar derivatives field by

purchasi ng the Chemical Acid Company. Two years later Monsanto Chemical

Company required a substantial interest in an English aniline dye company,

and in 1929 moved into the field of plastics. There are no indications
of any enemy control in the Company nor is it blocked. It enjoys a very
high financial standing.
Mr. Sazuel Richard Fuller, Jr., was born in Corning, New York,
February 19, 1879. He attended DeVaux School, Niagara Falls, from
1890 to 1896, and Trinity College from 1896 to 1898. On November 1, 1905

he married Miss Lillian Alice Russell. They have four children.

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Mr. Fuller was president of the Stafford Company, Readville,
Massachusetts, from 1919 to 1921, then chairman of the board and
treasurer of the Canadian Commercial Cotton Mills, Ltd., Sherbrook,
Canada, from 1921 to 1929. "Who's Who" lists Mr. Fuller from 1929 as
president of the American Glansstoff Corporation (now the North
American Rayon Corporation) and American Bemberg Corporation, both of

New York City. He served as a commander in the United States Naval
Reserve Force during the first world war and in June 1935 was appointed

Special Administrative Assistant to the Alaska Rural Rehabilitation
Corporation, Matanuska, Alaska. According to Mr. Shaeffer of the
Press Relations Bureau, Mr. Fuller was a labor relations adviser to
the O.P.M. and a member of the Plant Site Board, but he has no connection with the Government now.

Mr. Fuller was interviewed on September 3, 1941, in connection
with a May investigation of Jacques Hoffman, nephew of A. Hoffman,
head of the Zurich firm of A. Hoffman and Cie. According to the
report, Jaoques Hoffman arrived in New York in April 1941 with in-

structions from his uncle's firm in Zurich to confer with officials
of the American Bemberg Corporation and the North American Rayon

Corporation, to learn as much as possible concerning their organization,
production, market outlook, transfer of dividends, capital transactions,

etc. The report states that Fuller "declared his organizations had
absolutely refused to enter into any discussion of the subjects raised.
Fuller stated that he had figuratively thrown Hoffman out of his
offices as he strongly suspected the latter to be a German agent or spy."

Jose

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January 29, 1942

My dear Mr. Warren:

Thank you for your letter of
January 28 and the contract information

in regard to General Aniline and Film
Corporation.

Your cooperation is much
appreciated.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) B. Morgenthau, JF.

Secretary of the Treasury

Hon. Lindsay C. Warren

Comptroller General of the
United States
Washington, D. C.

EHF:s 1-28-42

Fien n.m.c.

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COMPTROLLER GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES
WASHINGTON

January 28, 1942.
B-23059

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury.
by dear Mr. Norgenthau:

There has been received letter of the Acting Secretary of the
Treasury, dated January 10, 1942, as follows:
"Secretary Morgenthau sent the attached menorandum

in regard to General Aniline and ilm Corporation to the

President last evening.

"This morning he directed mo to send a copy to you
and the other interested departments and agencies of the
Government having contracts or dealings with this company,
with the suggestion that stops be taken to eliminate
situations of tne character described in the remorandum."

There is attached horeto a list of contracts of various
overnmental agencies with the General Aniline and ilm Corpora-

tion and its subsidiaries which are on .ile in this cifice. Copies
of the list of contracts have been furnished to tile accret Service
Division of the Treasury Department, ederal Bureau of Investigation,
Army Intelligence, and Ravy Intelligence.

This office will cooperate with the interested ciencies in
connection with the matter.
Sincerely yours,

Curum

Comptroller Coneral

of the nited States
Enclosure

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Record of contracts on file with General Accounting Office.
Von Heister, F. W. -- Berlin, Germany.
Contract Period

Nod-725 10-11-35 to 6 mos. Use of airship terminal facilities.

(Deutsche Zepplin Reiderei 0.m.b.H. Luftshiffbau Zepplin G.mbH.

Von Meister, F. W.
New York, N. Y.

NOs-35829 4-20-34 to 6-1-34 Parts for Maybach engine.

on Leister, F. W. (General Agent)
lew York, N. Y.

140s-51570 5-10-34 to 6 wks. Filters, Pistons.
Maybach Motor Co.

Ozalid Corporation - New York - New York City
Als-20662- 1-15-40 to 6-30-40 Ammonia Machine service USDA-7161.
(Company owned by General Aniline & Film Corp.)
Ozalid Corp.

SE-246 6-27-40 to 3-1-41 Film, dark brown, 120 rolls.
(zalid Corp.

SE-254 6-26-40 to Indef. Purchase of 35 mm. photographic film
printer & developer.

Ozalid Corp.

Tps-32882 12-12-39 to 12-31-40 Photographic supplies & equipment.
Ozalid Corp.

Tps-37055 1-1-41 to 12-31-41 Photographic equipment and supplies.
Czalid Corp.

ER-Wpa-62 12-20-35 to Immed. Positive photo print paper.
General Aniline & Film Corporation
AD(M)-395 4-9-40 to 30 days Film renowed
for one year.
General Aniline : Film Corp.
Als-23525 10-17-40 to Indef. servicing Ammonia Developing Machine
USDA #561-41

General Aniline , Film Corp. - (Ozalid Prod. Div.)

Als-25775-- 9-19-41 to 6-30-42 Servicing Ammonia Machine
USDA #409-42

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General Aniline & Film Corp. - Agfa Ansco Div. - Binghampton, N. Y.

Cc-3205 8-0-41 to 0-30-42 Air Film in rolls.

General Aniline & Film Corp. - Afga Ansco Div. - masn. D. C.
Im-301 9-20-40 to 6-30-41 Marking 16 mm. double perforated negative.
General Aniline & Film Corp. - Agfa Ansco Div. - Einghampton, H. Y.
J-17370
4-5-41 to indef. - micro film
J-17414 4-30-41 to indef. - micro film

J-16417 9-30-41 to 45 days - Pur. More film

J1c-8926 1-25-40 to 10 days - Photo supplies

J-17468 5-12-41 to indef. - icro film

General Aniline & Film Corp. - wash. D. C.
Naw-c74 6-6-40 to 6-30-41 servicing and materials for processing and

titling motion picture films. optical printing.

NAw-1159 7-19-41 to 6-30-42 duplicating film, making prints, etc.
NOs-09630 11-15-39 to 90 days. Film.
General Aniline & Film Corp.
NOs-77692 10-12-40 to 120 days films

NOs-86691 6-30-41 to 45 days - purchase of film.
General Aniline & Film Corp. - Agfa Ansco Div.
N14Os-79026 6-15-39 to 15 days motion picture film.
N140s-79029 6-15-39 to 15 days Electrocardiograph paper.

N140s-79393 7-20-39 to indef. Film, photographic
N140s-83059 6-29-40 to 6-30-41 Pur. of paper.
General Aniline & Film Corp. - Washington, D. 0.
N140s-83223 7-1-40 to 6-30-41 out film.
N140s-83266 7-1-40 to 6-30-41 motion picture negative.
N156s-15139 8-15-39 to 6-30-40 Photo material
N-156-s-17847 1-14-40 to 5-13-41 purchase film.
N-156a-19751 5-21-41 to 0-30-42 pur. photographic materials.
N-156a-21113 8-21-41 to 12-11-41 Photographic chemicals.

N-156s-21510 9-19-40 to 11-18-41 Fur. photographic equipment.

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N-156s-21670 9-29 to 10-20-41 photo matorial
N204s-19670 10-9-40 to 30 days pur. photo equipment.

N204s-20637 8-4-41 to 21 days photo paper.
SAph-5627 4-11-40 to 6-30-41 pur. bromide paper.
SAph-9776 4-1-41 to 6-30-41 for processing 35mm film.
SAph-10161 3-25-41 to 6-30-42 bromide paper.

SE-247 6-27-40 to 6-30-41 roll film.
SE-315 9-10-41 to 6-30-42 film-photograph
DA-Tps-411 7-11-41 to 30 days Purchase film
DA-TPS-1706 10-9-41 to 60 days Aerial film

Tps-21275 1-3-38 to 12-31-38 films, etc.
Tps-21287 1-29-38 to 12-31-38 Photo equip.
Tps-21497 2-1-38 to indef. Chemicals.
Tps-23431 5-20-38 to 12-31-38 films.

Tps-27430 1-17-39 to 1-31-40 sch. of supplies
Tps-32865 12-12-38 to 12-31-40 photo supplies
Tps-33464 1-24-40 to 1-31-41 Acids, chemicals, drugs, etc.

Tps-34431 4-22-40 to 1-31-41 Aoids, etc.
Tps-37048 1-1-41 to 12-31-41 photographic equipment and supplies

Tps-38685 2-1-41 to 1-31-42 pur. acids, chemicals.

Tps-39664 4-2-41 to 12-31-41 pur. films
Tps-42703 10-14-41 to indef. Pur. Whiteprinting machine.
Tpa-43510 12-15-41 to 12-31-42 photographic equip. & Supplies.
ER-T21ps-91372 4-5-40 to 12-31-40 films.

TRR-2108 11-26-41 to 15 days acetic aoid.
VAP-13633 2-24-39 to 3-31-40 Electrocardograph accessories.

VAp-16967 3-18-41 to 3-31-41 paper, bromide

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ASW-292 4-23-41 to indef. Pur. Dry developing machine
#535ac-19183 7-14-41 to 12-31-41 pur. papers, cloth and film.
535ac-19855 7-17-41 to 12-31-41 pur. photographic film.
w535ac22931 11-24-41 to 6-8 weeks pur. holder out, film.
N-101 ord 821 4-10-41 to 9-30-41 paper.
a-101 ord-913 6-24-41 to 12-31-41 pur. paper.

a-450-00-94 8-15-40 to indef. Fur. of hypo rice crystals etc.
W-535-ac-13416 10-5-39 to 30 days Camera

=-535-ac-13788 11-30-39 to indef. Camera

W-535-ao-1412 4-8-40 to indef. merger

contract filed in special file as paper 1136.

w-535-ac-15584 8-20-40 to 45 days pur. of motion picture developer.

w-535-ac-15858 9-10-40 to indef. pur. of holder.
W-535-ac-17027 10-14-40 to indef. pur. of acid hardening solution powder.
W-535-ac-17405

12-18-40 to indef. pur. of cloth.

W-535-ac-17738 1-18-41 to 3 days. pur. film and paper.
w-535-ac-17765 2-11-41 to indef. pur. photographic film and paper.
W-535-ac-18750 4-4-41 to 5-5-41 pur. printing machine.

W-535-ac-19054 4-29-41 to indef. pur. film chemicals.
W-535-ac-22041 10-9-41 to 12-31-41 developer, powders.

W-535-ac-22469 10-30-41 to 30 days. pur. film.

w-436-eng-7176 6-20-40 acetic acid, borio acid, etc.
w-436-eng-7576 7- 8-41 to 15 days acetic acid, borax, etc.
w-978-eng-24,29 5-29-41 to 30 days pur. developer, Paralith
W-101 ord-980 7-7-41 to 12-31-41 pur. paper.

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x-226-ord-80 4-30-40 to indef. pur. of film.
W-952-ord-2871 11-8-39 to 10 days X-Ray film.
W-953-ord-1890 5-13-41 to 8-13-41 dry developing machine.

SS-305 5-15-41 to indef. machine printing.

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62
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

January 29, 1942.
MEMORANDUM FOR THE

SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

Some time when you are talking

to the President, will you bring up the
question of Alien Property Custodian?

Grace Grace Tully July

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January 29, 1942
4 p.m.

RE WILLIAM BATT

Present: Mr. Foley

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.JR: Sit down, Ed. The President of the United

States - take it easy. This is O.K. (laughter). This
is all right. The President of the United States just

called me up and wanted to talk to me when I was alone
and said that John McCormack had been in to see him and

said that there was a reporter from either the Boston
Globe - who said that they had the story that William
Batt was - not only a director of the American Bosch,

but was a trustee for the stock for the Swedish company
which controlled American Bosch, and that this Swedish
company in turn was controlled by German interests,

and that furthermore, Batt was receiving his salary

from the Swedish company. I said it was my impression

that this was not correct, and that Mr. Batt was all

right, in the clear.

The President said, "Well, get me up 8 memorandum

on this thing and have it in 8 form that I can show
it to John McCormack, and that he in turn, if he wants
to, can show it to this newspaper man. Now, what are

the facts?

MR. FOLEY: Well, Murnane is the trustee of the stock.

Batt is a director of American Bosch. I don't think

he has very much stock in American Bosch. I will have

64

-2to check that. He is the President of S.K.F.
H.M.JR: But as to his salary.
MR. FOLEY: I think his salary is paid by S.K.F.
and not by anybody else. I think we will have to get

the return to be able to tell that.

H.M.JR: You don't want to ask Batt point-blank?

MR. FOLEY: Sure, I will be glad to. I don't know
how far you want to go. I will go and see Batt, if you
want me to, and tell him the facts.

H.M.JR: No. What I would do is this. Tell him
that the question has been raised. Do what you can
on his returns, you see.

MR. FOLEY: Let's find out what we can first.
H.M.JR: Because I promised this to the President

tomorrow.

MR. FOLEY: Sure.

H.M.JR: So you had better get hold of Irey and
wherever the returns are. His company is in Pennsylvania.
MR. FOLEY: Yes, it is in Pennsylvania.
H.M.JR: I promised this to the President by tomorrow.
MR. FOLEY: All right.

H.M.JR: I would like to have it so I can give it to

him at Cabinet.

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

H.M.JR: I would like to see it before.
MR. FOLEY: All right.

65

-3H.M.JR: If they could get the returns down.
Didn't you tell me that Batt came over to see you?
MR. FOLEY: Yes, but not about Bosch, about his
own company, S.K.F.

H.M.JR: Well, I think what I would do is this.

would draw up two memoranda, one, Batt's connection
with American Bosch, and two, Batt's connection with
S.K.F. and who owns each, you see.
I

MR. FOLEY: Yes.

H.M.JR So that the President knows, you see.
MR. FOLEY: Well, why don't we prepare an overall memorandum for the President and attach a memorandum
that he can give to McCormack on the American Bosch

angle of it, in so far as it relates to Bill Batt?

H.M.JR: All right. But I mean over-all on Batt.
MR. FOLEY: Over-all on Batt for the President's
information, and one that he can give to McCormack
that only deals with that and American Bosch.

H.M.JR: That is right, but I want that by noon

tomorrow.

MR. FOLEY: All right.
H.M.JR: And our friend Leo Crowley, is the
President interested? Was it worth-while-gv talking to
the President about American Bosch before went in to
him? And am I going to talk to him about the other
thing? When are you going to be ready?

MR. FOLEY: Well, we are not ready yet.

H.M.JR: Did you find anything good in that book?
MR. FOLEY: We have read five books, Mr. Secretary.

I sent you another note on that, and there is nothing
that we can use.

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January 29, 1942
4:33 p.m.
HMJr:

Herbert

Hello.

Gaston:

Hello.

HMJr:

Herbert.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

I've read that thing about Butler.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

I don't see anything in there to make me change

my mind.
G:

Well, I don't think - I don't see how that verdict
can be changed. That is, we do not want that man
in the service. Now, the only thing that possibly
could be considered would be reinstating him and
then letting him resign; but I don't see that gets
him anywhere or gets us anywhere. That's the

difficulty. I don't see it.

HMJr:
G:

HMJr:

What?

I don't see - even if we were to consider reinstating
him and then letting him resign, I don't think that

would help his record or our record.
Well, no one has mentioned the fact that we still
have that question about his Chinese servant, you
know.

G:

No.

HMJr:

Who he said he would dismiss and didn't, Herbert.

G:

What? No that question hasn't been raised.
Well, but you and - what?
That hasn't been raised at all.

HMJr:

That's still on his record, isn't it?

G:

HMJr:

-G:

HMJr:

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Yes, that's still on his record.
Now, the other thing is, in reading Gorman's
testimony, I think he went unnecessarily far in

what he told Butler. I mean, I don't see why is it Gorman or O'Gorman?

G:

Gorman.

HMJr:

What?

G:

Gorman.

HMJr:

G:

HMJr:

I mean, why he thinks that Butler is such a wonder-

ful fellow.

Well, I think all he told Butler is that he had

nothing against his honesty.
Well, he said that he brought him back. Then

officially, "I've never learned of anything which
reflected upon his honesty." Well, that may be
true, but how about his morals?

G:

Yeah.

HMJr:

What?

G:

Yeah.

HMJr:

What?

G:

Well

HMJr:

G:

Well, anyway I don't - knowing the man's record
and everything, unless you say to me that you feel
strongly about it.

Well, I do not feel strongly about it. My original
notion, as you know, was the same as Johnson's,
to let the man resign. But there is a legal
obstacle to that, as was pointed out to me later.

HMJr:
G:

What is that?

Well, I understand the Civil Service Commission
objects strongly to permitting a man to resign

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3

when you have cause for his dismissal. They
demand that it be on the records.
HMJr:
G:

I didn't know that.
Yeah, so Thompson tells me. But in the result

of his separation from the service, I heartily

concur we cannot have that man back in the service.

HMJr:

But if you'd have known about the Civil Service
thing, would you have signed the thing in the

first place? The first recommendation, by letting

him resign?
G:

HMJr:

No, I wouldn't; but if there was an ironclad law
on that that you're not allowed to do it, I would
have been disposed to do the - oh, be ultra-lenient
if there was an opportunity, but
Of course, where the man's testimony doesn't ring
true - let's say he didn't know about the Bermuda
embargo, see?

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

Well, then, why did he put his name on the baggage?

For what reason did he put it on there?

G:

Well

HMJr:

What? He lent his name.

G:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And the prestige of his position

G:

Yeah.

HMJr:

to hide something.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

What?

G:

Yes. The man is a fool.

HMJr:

What's that?

4

-

G:

I say the man is a fool.

HMJr:

Well, I don't know - I know he's a fool, but

69

whether he's a knave, is something else.

G:

HMJr:

Yeah.

But I mean, this thing - well, I just didn't

know.
G:

HMJr:

Yeah.

Well, he knew enough to lend his name and his
diplomatic passport to cover up something.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

What?

G:

Yes. Oh, yes.

HMJr:

And my position is - leaving everything else out position and his diplomatic passport to protect a

here's a Customs Agent, who lent his name and his
man who wanted to smuggle something in.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

What?

G:

Well, it wasn't smuggling into the United States.
He lent his name for him to evade - for the ack-

nowledged purpose of evading British examination
at Bermuda. He knew that.
HMJr

Well, now wait a minute. Let's say that. But

what we don't know, Herbert, is that supposing

he hadn't been caught in Bermuda, would his name
still have stayed on the baggage when he entered
G:

HMJr:
G:

the port of New York. Now that we don't know.
That we do not know. We have only to take his

word for it.
That's all.

That's right.

- -5- HMJr:

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But I mean, let's say that he had passed Bermuda
successfully, would his name still have been on

or not, and that's a matter of surmise.
G:

HMJr:

Yes.

But I think as a matter of discipline and a matter

of example towards all these other people - now

particularly
that
you tell
me this latter thing
about
his Civil
Service
position

G:

Well, Thompson told me that. I suppose the thing
is cloud,
still being
a
but done of letting them resign under

HMJr:

Well,
I think we've done too much of that, personally.

G:

Yeah.

HMJr:

But I'm going to send it back to you.

G:

All right.

HMJr:

And I'm satisfied to let it stand. I think it

G:

I don't know any alternative to doing that.

HMJr:

All right, Herbert.

G:

Right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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January 29, 1942.
MEMORANDUM

TO:

FROM:

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Gaston

The luncheon given by Ed Flynn today was attended
by officers of the National Committee and about a dozen
invited guests from the Departments, including Jerry
Land, Larry Fly, Madam Perkins and Paul McNutt.
The purpose was to announce George Washington (not

Jackson) dinners on the evening of Monday, February 23,

when the President is to give a fireside chat. The

President will not address the Washington dinner but will
be heard by radio. The price here at the Mayflower and

the Willard will be $100 per plate, that is to say those

who contribute $100 to the Committee funds for this year's
campaign will get invitations. They hope to have 2,600

diners at $100 each at the two hotels. A $50 dinner will

be held in New York and dinners at varying prices through-

out the country. The purpose obviously of inviting departmental representatives in to today's luncheon was to offer

them the privilege of helping to sell tickets. The im-

portance of continuing Democratic control of the House was

stressed and also the importance of electing this fall

Senators who may be expected to support the President's
policy in a peace settlement. The Committee owes between
$600,000 and $700,000 and is hard put to get funds for
current operations. Charlie Michelson's staff is reduced
to him alone.

There was little discussion other than by representatives of the Committee, but Reynolds, the Treasurer, and

Madam Perkins both raised the question whether it wouldn't
be possible to have lower priced tickets in Washington or

to permit tickets to be bought by groups on a lottery basis.
I walked back with Larry Fly, who is genuinely dis-

turbed about the difficulty of asking for contributions on

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-2a $100 basis this year.

Charlie Michelson called me up this afternoon to
ask if we would not like to put on a Defense Savings

display for the New York dinner, which will be at the

Commodore. I told him I thought we would and would let

him know.

Not

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73

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 29, 1942.
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

George Buffington

I have talked with John Sullivan and the

Commissioner's office about having Internal Revenue
field men approach moving picture theatre people about

the Disney film. I will give you our joint views at

your convenience.

I have been in almost daily touch with
the Commissioner's office about the things we are
doing to get people to pay their income taxes. The
Commissioner has been ill for the last two weeks but

we have kept Mr. Cann informed on all subjects during

this interval. I am sure Commissioner Helvering and
his staff are fully aware of everything we have done
to date or contemplate doing in the future.

Q.D.

74

January 29, 1942.
MEMORANDUM
TO:

FROM:

SECRETARY MORGENTHAU

Mr. Schwarz

The Treasury correspondents have been digging

through their file of press conference transcripts looking

for comment on tax-exempts and have come upon this refer-

ence on January 2, 1941, in reply to Nick Gregory's state-

ment that he had been in New York on vacation and some
people there were apprehensive about outstanding issues:

"I made that clear. I think I made it clear a

number of times, that all of my recommendations were for

future, that I was opposed to making it retroactive. I
have said it before and I say it now.

I have shown them that there is no previous reference in the conference to State and local issues, although
LaGuardia's attitude is mentioned. Most of the boys are
satisfied but Art Hermann of INS may mention it.
Dick Rendell of the Chicago Times plans to attend
the conference on orders from his editor to ask about a
statement in the Chicago Herald-American, a Hearst paper,

quoting you as saying that every dollar paid in for Defense

Stamps in Chicago and its suburbs until February 21 would
be earmarked for the special bomber fund which the HeraldAmerican was sponsoring. The Defense Savings Staff found

that the paper in one edition had enthusiastically stretched
your message to Mr. Hearst telling him you were glad his

papers were urging their readers to help buy bombers through
purchase of Defense Stamps. The incorrect statement was

killed after the first edition Saturday night, when our
actively in the carrier

Chicago committee called attention to it. The Times is

say
the
were
invited
to
use the bomber theme in pushing the sale of Stamps there.
the Defense

participating people apparently felt that all slighted, Chicago although papers boy program Savings and

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January 29. 1942
My dear Senster:

I have your letter of January 26, 1942. enclosing a letter
which you received from a friend of yours in Saples, Maine, direeting attention to n rumor that the increment on defense bonds
issued at discount will be subject to such high rates of tax

that investors will be left with no more than their original

investment.

If I were answering this inquiry, I would state very emphatically that the rumor 1 s completely without foundation. The
only condition under which investors could be left with no more
than their original investment would be the imposition of a flat
100 percent tax on income from investments, without reference to
the size of total income and to family and other obligations.
No such proposal has ever come to my attention and, needless to
say, has never entered our minds. Apparently we have not suc-

ceeded in conveying to all of the public the fact that the Public
Debt Act of 1941, which removed all privileges of tax exemption
from future issues of Federal obligations. did not segregate this

particular category of income for additional taxation: that it

involves only taxing income from Government bonds in the same
manner as income obtained from other sources.

Moreover, as you are aware, the tax treatment of non-interest
bearing bonds issued on A discount basis has been liberalised very

recently. Prior to the Revenue Act of 1941, taxagers reporting
on a cash basis were required to include the entire increment in

their gross income upon redemption of the bonds. Under the Revenue
Act of 1941, taxpayers were extended the privilege of electing to

report income from such securities as it accrues so that the rates
of income tax on the annual increments are the same as those genorally applied to other sources of income.
Sincerely youre.
(Steeed) E. Morgenthau. SEA

Secretary of the Treasury
Honorable Arthur H. Vandenberg.
United States Senate.
Washington, D. 0.

Jile thompson
By Messenger Brown 9.5 2/2/42

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CALIF.

United States Senate
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

A

AMT. CLARK

January 26, 1942.

rl

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I enclose herewith a self-explanatory letter from a
friend of mine in Naples, Maine. This would indicate
to me that the agitation for taxing U. S. Government

bonds may interfere with the sale of defense bonds
and defense stamps.

Of course under no circumstances would any tax program

go to the magnitude of wiping out the entire increment
as suggested by the enclosed question. But if you
had to answer the enclosed question, what would you
say?

with warm personal regards and best wishes,

Cordially and faithfully,

Enc.
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AND

LAKE SHORE BUNGALOWS
NAPLES MAINE
On Reesevels Highway Route 303
Phone 6-19-3

January
23rd

1942
Non. Arthur H. Vandenberg
Washington D.C.
Monorable Arthur;

Fardon my asking you for a very few mom-

cnts of your very valuable time - but there
is a matter about which I would appreciate

an expression from you.

In this locality there is a falling off in

the sale of Defense Bonds and Stamps due to

the fact that there is a persistant rumor
in effect that the Bonds will be taxed to
such an extent that the $18., invested will
not bring the $25., as advertised - but will
return the $18., only. If you can in any
way furnish me with an opinion or data or
something to offer - I believe I can combat
the present movement of non-buying.

Some have told me that they have heard the

mentioned rumor over the radio but I personally have not heard it - and I cannot

find out over which station or stations
this information has been spread. --

Can you help me in any way??

Kindest good wishes - and know that I am
as always your admirer and staunch friend,

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INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORPORATION
500 MADISON AVENUE
NEW YORK

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OFFICE or
THE PRESIDENT

January 29, 1942

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

A

Secretary of the Treasury

Washington, D. C.

Dear Mr. Secretary:

It was very gratifying to receive
your letter expressing your satisfaction and

appreciation of what our organization has been
able to accomplish on deliveries of card assemblies.

I want to assure you that any

pressure that comes from you or any members

of your department will always be welcome,
because our desire always is to give you as nearly 100% perfect service as is humanly possible.
We all appreciate your personal

interest in this matter, and in return everyone
in our organization is taking a personal interest
not only in this particular problem, but in all
of the tasks which you are handling in behalf

of our country, which mean so much to all of us.
Sincerely yours

Minimum
President

TJW:wds

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81

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 29, 1942

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Dave H. Morris, Jr.

FROM

Subject: Armour & Company Telegram

The following telegram, (dated January 29th),

from Armour & Company may be of interest to you:

"THANK YOU FOR YOUR WIRE. WE ARE FINDING THAT AS AN ISSUING AGENT IT IS MUCH MORE CONVENIENT TO HANDLE THE DELIVERY
OF

BONDS TO EMPLOYEES THE PLAN IS WORKING WELL AND YOU

WILL FIND OUR ORDERS WILL BE INCREASING FROM WEEK TO WEEK.
ARMOUR DEFENSE BOND CAMPAIGN WILL START IN A VIGOROUS WAY
ABOUT FEBRUARY NINTH AND WE EXPECT THAT PRACTICALLY EVERY
ARMOUR EMPLOYEE, SOMETHING OVER SIXTY THOUSAND, WILL BE
ENROLLED."

ARMOUR AND COMPANY, HARVEY G. ELLERD. VICE PRESIDENT

samp

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
82

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 29, 1942.
TO

Secretary Morgenthau
Gene Sloan

Frank Isbey has an appointment with Richard H. Grant

of General Motors, who is in Detroit to-day. Grant will be
here in Washington to-morrow, Friday, January 30, at his

office in the Hill Building, 839 17th Street. I have just
talked with Mr. Graves, who will be here and see Grant

himself at that time.

Isbey will also see to-day, Joe Fields, Vice President, and Harry Moock, one of the head salesmen of Chrysler.

Also, he has an appointment at Ford, to go into exactly how

they zone the country, etc. He promises a report to us on
Saturday, which will doubtless cover the ground.

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Firms Employing 100 to 499 Persons Participating
in Payroll Savings Plans, January 24, 1942

83

(As reported by the Defense Savings Staff's
State Administrators)

savings plans
Jan.10

lorado
onnecticut

285

15

58

22

29

142

655

910

1,660

64

83

198

100

188

622

16

30

laware

strict of Columbia
rida
eorgia
daho

linois

48

68

152
139

56

68

19
48

ndiana

14

entucky
cuisiana
aine

39

55

32

42

9

49

589

10

12

22

50

38

44

162

2,252

owe.

ansas

15

75

258

75

75

13

271

9

114

2

586

76

O

34

20

84

O

to

20
26

3

lifornia

57

20

17

7

kansas

savings plane

Jan.10

5

izona

Percent of total
having payroll

-

abama

of firms

:

State

Total
number

:

with payroll

:

Number of firms

258

44

100

312

24

24

384

0
0

24

198

Caryland

32

50

405

assachusetts

53

333

1,523

137

179
265

1,022

13

181

45

66

30

35

399
143

21

24

210

664

32

25

39

64

27

123

22

14

24

58

24

145

17
26

C

ontena

22

Nebraska
evada

6

12
22

3

usissippi

fissouri

8

ichigan.
innesota

12

2

3

18

to

New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico

171

223

869

12

19

35

New York

505

922

4,239

22

80

499

16

29

17

203

1,739

12

63

345

18

29
4

5

Ohio

Oregon

insylvania

Rhode Island

South Carolina

O

Oklahoma

29

21

21

317

713

713

2,032

35

35

63

224

22

28

24

174

13

South Dakota

19

7

North Carolina
North Dakota

54

14

26

37

12

16

7
5

Reilroads
Total

111

30

38

63

31

70

338

71

76

406

17

19

272
680

13
55

5

8

12

33

26,953

22

0

3.466 5,933

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Less than 1 percent.

60
21

0

Wyoming

18

1

West Virginia

Wisconsin

13

4

Washington

1,375

o

Virginia

89

0

Utah

Vermont

448

2

C

74

7

Texas

#

Tennessee

January 29, 1942

o

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Firms Employing 500 Persons or More Participating
in Payroll Savings Plans, January 24, 1942

84

(As reported by the Defense Savings Staff's
State Administrators)

with payroll

State

savings plans

Total
number

of firms

Jan.10
izona
kansas

9

abama

15
6

:

Number of firms

Percent of total
having payroll
savings plans

Jan.10
23

76

17

17

15

18

33

83

76

12

30

88

100

237

275

361

66

lorado

22

22

32

69

69

onnecticut

97

125

185

52

68

lifornia
elaware

2
2

strict of Columbia

28

7
7

40

12

21

52

Brida

18

22

66

27

33

orgia

35

39

143

24

27

10

80

80

daho

319

41

41

634
180

10

53

17

19

30

30

53

100

70

27

lowa

9

ansas

16

entucky
Souisiana
aine
laryland

19

assachusetts
Michigan

innesota

esissippi

27

85

o
O

42
40

39
-

45

93

77

154

26

50

54

41

199

370

305

305

92

96

333
105

92

87

83

91

12

12

28

43

43

122

122

issouri

100
5

41

28

28

levada

68

68

100

100
96

3
3

26

27

65

197

238

78

83

100

100

185

lew York

435

607

1,350

32

49

71

168

29

17

5

5

5

orth Dakota

egon

annsylvania
mode Island

South Carolina
South Dakota

285

100
557

322

22

51

348

336
58

61

27

32

58

51

62

31

51

50

35

100

51

100

625

54

56

90

64

68

96

28
3

100

3

4
4

36

Utah

43
9

106

4
4

187

19

14

57

8

10

12

13

Virginia

65

95

43

41

Washington

44

47

86

51

21

67

94

137

31

84

61

69

100
1

Total

55

2

Wyoming

Railroads

68

3

Wisconsin

SW

92

Vermont

West Virginia

33

100

3

Tennessee
Texas

42

1

klahoma

45

1

hio

80

80

4

lew Hampshire
lew Jersey
lew Mexico

orth Carolina

100

45

11

Montana

lebraska

50
23

23

3

Indiana

277

44

-

llinois

8
g

23

1

105

3,192

105

105

100

100

7.330

44

55

4,043

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.

January 29, 1942

85

Analysis of Participation
in Payroll Savings Plans
January 24, 1942
Total

Number

participating

in payroll

savings plans

Percent

of total
partici-

number

in the
country

pating

Part A - Summary by Number of Organizations Participating
Business organizations
(1) Railroads

105

105

(3) Firms with 100 to 499 employees

3,938
5,933

7,217
26,902

(4) Subtotal -- large firms

9,976

34,224

employees

(6) Total business organizations

6,434

16,410

Governmental organizations

.

Grand total

29

16,410

.

(5) Firms with less than 100

55
22

.

or more

100

.

(2) Other firms with 500 employees

Part B - Summary by Number of Employees Covered

Business organizations
(1) Railroads
(2) Other firms with 500 employees
or more

1,433,046

(3) Firms with 100 to 499 employees

11,347,140
1,393,277

(4) Subtotal -- large firms

14,173,463

.

.

(5) Firms with less than 100
(6) Total business organizations

216,083

14,389,546

30,200,000 1

569,866
569,866

1,600,000 1
2,700,000
4,300,000

21

14,959,412

34,500,000

43

Governmental organizations
(1) Federal Government

I. Grand total

.

(2) State and local governments
(3) Total governmental organizations

.

employees

48

ice of the Secretary of the Treasury,
January 30, 1942
Division of Research and Statistics.
Excludes agricultural employees, military personnel, employees on WPA or
NYA or CCC projects, proprietors, firm members, self-employed, casual
workers and persons in domestic service.
Data not available.

CONI

Unfilled Orders for Savings Bonds at the

Federal Reserve Banks and the Post Office Department
January 15 to date
(In thousands of pieces)

: Unfilled

Jan.

Bonds

received

manufactured

today

today

:

: business

:

: orders at
:opening of

New orders

Unfilled

orders at
close of
business

Stock of
bonds

on hand*

this day

15

550

660

750

455

231

1,000

16

455

773

775

426

204

750

17

426

672

800

298

204

1,000

18

298

none-no mail

none-closed

298

204

800

298

204

800

202

704

825

19
20

202

204

800

86

1,000

21

86

411

800

59

22

59

697

800

86

23

86

569

800

50

24

50

727

800

28

25

28

none-no mail

26

28

490

27

7

434

28

7

none-closed
1,000 1
1,000 1
1,000 2

1,184
1,546
1,676
1,871
1,922
1,922

474

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Bonds in Washington vaults only.

28
7

7

6

2,011

2,177
2,102

875

1,000
1,000
1,000
-

2,000
-

2,000

January 29, 1942

Includes 400 thousand pieces manufactured for inventory in the field.
2 Includes 600 thousand pieces manufactured for inventory in the field.
1

IBM

deliveries

CONFIDENTIAL

Stock of Series E Savings Bonds on Hand 1
January 15, 1942 to date

(In thousands of pieces)

: beginning

:

: Stock on hand :

Sales

:

17
18
19

20
21

22
23

24
25
26
27

28

this day

this day

6,569
6,999
7,329
7,966

320

750

445

775

163

800

none-closed

none-closed

665

800

218

800

337

800

381

800

377

800

263

800

none-closed

none-closed

7,966
8,101
8,683
9,146
9,565
9,988
10,525
10,525
11,038
11,852

487

186
251

:

16

: manufactured

of day

Jan.
15

Bonds

1,000
1,000
1,000

Stock on hand

close of
day

IBM

deliveries
this day

6,999
7,329
7,966
7,966
8,101
8,683
9,146
9,565
9,988
10,525
10,525
11,038
11,852
12,601

1,000
750

1,000
800
825

1,000
875

1,000
1,000
1,000
-

2,000
-

2,000

January 29, 1942
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Includes stock in hands of (1) Federal Reserve Banks and branches, (2) Post offices,
1

(3) Federal Reserve Bank issuing agents, and (4) Treasury vaults in Washington.

UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS

Comparative Statement of Sales During
Last Twenty-three Business Days of January 1942 and December and November 1941
(November 1-29, December 2-29, January 2-28)

On Basis of Issue Price

(Amounts in thousands of dollars)

1941

$141,826
448,167

$ 92,178

$ 37,997

210,172

589,993
66,326
272,687
$929,006

:

Series E - Post Offices
Series E - Banks

Series E - Total

Series F - Banks
Series G - Banks
Total

:

:
:

1941

January
:

:

:

1942

over
December

December
over
November

over
December

: December
:

:

January

January

:

November

December

:

:

Item

Percentage of Increase

Amount of Increase

Sales

53.3%

over
November
142.6%

71,478

$ 49,648
237,995

$ 54,181
138,694

113.2

194.0

302,350
28,182
132,562

109,475
18,978
105,035

287,643
38,144
140,125

192,875
9,204
27,527

95.1
135.3
105.7

176.2
48.5
26.2

$463,093

$233,487

$465,913

$229,606

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.

100.6%

98.3%

January 29, 1942.

Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds
of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.

UNITED SAVINGS BONDS
Daily Sales - January, 1942
On Basis of Issue Price

(In thousands of dollars)

Post Office
Date

January 1942
1

2

3

5

6

7

8

9

10
12
13

14
15
16
17
19

20
21
22
23

24
26
27

28

Total

All Bond Sales

Bank Bond Sales

Bond Sales

Series E

Series E

Series F

Series G

Total

Series E

Series F

Series G

Total

$ 3,982

$ 10,229

$ 1,964

$ 7,605

$ 19.798

$ 14,211

$ 1,964

$ 7,605

$ 23.780

4,802
4,457

10,736
9,557

2,056
1,278

7.779
5,453

20,571
16,289

15,538
14,015

2,056
1,278

7.779
5,453

25,373
20,747

9,684
6,711
6,748
7,509
5,746
4,398

26,724
7,659
21,267
21,297
12,359
16,031

3,240
1,341
3,692
3,821
1,798
1,858

13,704
6,778
18,832
12,871
4,765
6,355

43,668
15,778
43,790
37,989
18,923
24,244

36,408
14,369
28,015
28,806
18,105
20,429

3,240
1,341
3,692
3,821
1,798
1,858

13,704
6,778
18,832
12,871
4,765
6,355

53.352
22,489
50,539
45,498
24,669
28,641

10,187
7,902
4,706
6,444
5,721
4,830

37,483
15,059
19,939
16,597
26,239
6,933

3,830
2,507
3,701
2,243
4,319

55,666
29,510
37,933
32,123
44,637
10,700

47,670
22,961
24,645
23,041
31,960
11,763

3,830
2,507
3.701
2,243
4,319

759

14,353
11,944
14,293
13,283
14,078
3,008

759

14,353
11,944
14,293
13,283
14,078
3,008

65,853
37,412
42,639
38,567
50,358
15.530

8,835
5,155
4,886
5,161
5,908
4,655

39,000
10,549
19,375
22,257
23,392
15,820

3,946
2,285
3,538
3,973
2,652
2,239

16,599
10,551
15,566
9,850
8,004
5,344

59,545
23,385
38,479
36,080
34,048
23,403

47,835
15,703
24,261
27,418
29,300
20,476

3,946
2,285
3.538
3,973
2,652
2,239

16,599
10,551
15.566
9,850
8,004
5.344

68,380
28,539
43,365
41,241
39,956
28,058

7,095
4,967
5,318

39,997
11,504
18,394

5,022
3,569
2,656

17,516
23,125
18,636

62,535
38,199
39,686

47,093
16,471
23,712

5,022
3,569
2,656

17,516
23,125
18,636

69,630
43,165
45,004

$145,808

$458,396

$ 68,290

$280,292

$806,977

$604,204

$ 68,290

$280,292

$952,786

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of
sales of United States savings bonds.
Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.

January 29, 1942.

90

UNITED STATES SAVINGS BOND SALES
Series E 1942 and Series D 1941
FEBRUARY

JANUARY
25

MARCH
22

APRIL
22

29

26

12

19

DOLLARS

DOLLARS

Millions

Millions

DAILY

60

60

55

55

50

50

45

45

40

40

35

35

Series E 1942
30

30

25

25

20

20

Series D 1941
15

15

10

10

5
5

0
0

- - and Statistics

8

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury

15

JANUARY

25

FEBRUARY

22

8

18

15

MARCH

22

29

5

11

19
12

26

APRIL

B-260

91

Unfilled Orders for Savings Bonds st the

Federal Reserve Banks and the Post Office Department
January 12 to date

today

business

:

:

:
:
:

: orders at
opening of
: business

:

: Unfilled

In thousands of pieces)
Unfilled
New orders
Bonds
orders at
received
manufactured
close of
today

Stock of
bonds

on hand

IBM

deliveries
this day

Jan.
12

541

859

595

805

236

625

13

805

423

630

598

236

650

14

598

622

670

550

236

685

15

550

660

750

455

231

1,000

16

773

775

426

204

750

17

455
426

672

800

298

204

1,000

18

298

none-closed

298

204

800

19

298

204

800

202

704

825

20

202

204

800

86

1,000

21

86

411

59

22

59

697

800
800

86

23

86

569

800

50

24

50

727

800

28

25

28

26

28

27

7

1,184
1,546
1,676
1,871
1,922
1,922
2,011
2,177

none-no mail

none-no mail
490
434

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Bonds in Washington vaults only.
1

none-closed
1,000 1
1,000 1

28
7

7

875

1,000
1,000
1,000
-

2,000

January 28, 1942

Includes 400 thousand pieces manufactured for inventory in the field.

-

92
Stock of Series E Savings Bonds on Hand 1
January 15, 1942 to date

(In thousands of pieces)
: manufactured :

:

this day

Stock on hand

close of
day

:

:

Jan.
15
16
17
18
19
20
21

22
23

24
25
26
27

6,569
6,999
7,329
7,966
7,966
8,101
8,683
9,146
9,565
9,988
10,525
10,525
11,038

750

445

775

163

800

none-closed

none-closed

665

800

218

800

337

800

381

800

377

800

263

800

none-closed

none-closed

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
1

320

487

186

1,000
1,000

6,999
7,329
7,966
7,966
8,101
8,683
9,146
9,565
9,988
10,525
10,525
11,038
11,852

IBM

: deliveries
:

:

of day

this day

Bonds

:

: beginning

Sales

:

: Stock on hand

this day
1,000
750

1,000
800
825

1,000
875

1,000
1,000
1,000
-

2,000

January 28, 1942

Includes stock in hands of (1) Federal Reserve Banks and branches, (2) Post offices,
(3) Federal Reserve Bank issuing agents, and (4) Treasury vaults in Washington.

-

UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS

Comparative Statement of Sales During
First Twenty-three Business Days of January 1942 and December and November 1941
(November 1-29, December 1-27, January 1-27)

On Basis of Issue Price

(Amounts in thousands of dollars)

:

December

November

:

1942

1941

1941

over
December

$140,490
440,001

$ 86,301

$ 37,997

$ 54,189

$ 48,304

189,829

71,478

250,172

118,351

131.8

165.6

580,492
65,634
261,655

276,130
26,455
129,429

109,475
18,978
105,035

304,362
39,179
132,226

166,655
7,477
24,394

110.2
148.1
102.2

152.2
39.4
23.2

$907,781

$432,014

$233,487

$475,767

$198,527

110.1

:

:

:

:

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.

:

Total

over
November

over
December
62.8%

:

Series F - Banks
Series G - Banks

December

January

:

Series E - Total

January

:

Series E - Banks

:

Series E - Post Offices

: December

January

Percentage of Increase
:

:

Item

:

Amount of Increase

Sales

over
November
127.1%

85.0%

January 28, 1942.

Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds
of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.

Daily Sales - January, 1942
On Basis of Issue Price

(In thousands of dollars)
Post Office
Date

January 1942
1

2

3

5

6

7

8

9

10
12
13

14
15

16
17
19
20
21

22
23

24
26
27

Total

All Bond Sales

Bank Bond Sales

Bond Sales

Series E

Series B

Series F

Series G

Total

Series E

Series r

Series G

Total

$ 3,982

$ 10,229
10,736

$ 1.964

$ 7,605

$ 19.798

$ 1,964

$ 7,605

9,557

2,056
1,278

7.779
5,453

20,571
16,289

$ 14,211
15,538
14,015

2,056
1,278

7.779
5,453

$ 23,780
25,373
20,747

9,684
6,711
6,748
7,509
5,746
4,398

26,724
7,659
21,267
21,297
12,359
16,031

3,240
1,341
3,692
3,821
1,798
1,858

13.704
6,778
18,832
12,871
4,765
6,355

43,668
15.778
43.790
37,989
18,923
24,244

36,408
14,369
28,015
28,806
18,105
20,429

3,240
1,341
3,692
3,821
1,798
1,858

13,704

10,187
7,902
4,706
6,444
5,721
4,830

37,483
15,059
19,939
16,597
26,239
6,933

3,830
2,507
3.701
2,243
4,319

55,666
29,510
37,933
32,123
44,637
10,700

47,670
22,961
24,645
23,041
31,960
11,763

3,830
2,507
3.701
2,243
4,319

759

14,353
11,944
14,293
13,283
14,078
3,008

8,835
5,155
4,886
5,161
5,908
4,655

39,000
10,549
19.375
22,257
23,392
15,820

3,946
2,285
3.538
3.973
2,652
2,239

16,599
10,551
15,566
9,850
8,004
5,344

59,545
23,385
38,479
36,080
34,048
23,403

7,095
4,967

39,997
11,504

5,022
3,569

17,516
23,125

$140,490

$440,001

$ 65,634

$261,655

4,802
4,457

6,778
18,832
12,871
4,765
6,355

53.352
22,489
50.539
45,498
24,669
28,641

759

14,353
11,944
14,293
13,283
14,078
3,008

65,853
37,412
42,639
38,567
50.358
15,530

47,835
15,703
24,261
27,418
29,300
20,476

3,946
2,285
3,538
3,973
2,652
2,239

16,599
10,551
15,566
9,850
8,004
5,344

68,380
28,539
43,365
41,241
39.956
28,058

62,535
38,199

47,093
16,471

5,022
3,569

17,516
23,125

69,630
43,165

$767,291

$580,492

$ 65,634

$261,655

$907,781

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of
sales of United States savings bonds.
Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.

January 28, 1942.

95

D. W. Bell

January 29, 1942

Harry White

Secretary Morgenthau

In this problem of what they call "Lend Lease in

Reverse", there are two things which come to my mind

that I would like the two of you to think about and talk

to me about:

1. How are we handling the sterling situation in
the various sterling areas? I know about the dollars

that we are supplying the American troops with but I
don't know anything about the question of supplying them

with sterling.

2. When Mr. McCloy, Assistant Secretary of War,
asked me to think about how we should buy and pay for the
things they were buying in Australia, I wonder through
whom they are going to buy them, and I wonder if we
shouldn't have the same provision as we apparently are
going to have for the purchases under Lend-Lease; namely,
that the Army and Navy buy the military purchases and the
Treasury buy the non-military purchases.

96

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Messrs. Foley and Pehle

JAN 29 1942

This is a report on the cable you have received from the
refugee organizations in Shanghai, a copy of which is attached.
Mr. Bell called Norman Davis of the Red Cross who said
that when war broke out with Japan the Red Cross had approximately 1,000 tons of wheat at Shanghai which it was distributing
to 3500 Americans and 20,000 refugees. Another ship was on the
water when the war began but has not been heard from since. The
Red Cross suggested that possibly the JDC might remit through
the State Department.

Pehle discussed this matter with M. A. Leavitt of the
JDC, which before the outbreak of war remitted approximately
$30,000 a month to Shanghai for the support of 20,000 refugees.

The JDC has heard that there is a possibility that it can obtain

local currency in Shanghai against the payment of $90,000 to an
as yet unnamed American in this country. The JDC secured the
permission of Navy Censorship to cable Shanghai via South
America to ascertain the name and address of this American.

Mr. Leavitt has indicated that when they receive a reply from
Shanghai he will communicate with us further.

It is our recommendation that no reply be made at this
time to the cable from Shanghai.

Johns
Sinth

Treasury Department

cofor to Mrs. Peble
97

TELEGRAPH OFFICE

1/90/40

N JV 67
SHANGHAI 242PM JAN 22 1942
1942

OLT MORGENTHAU

AM

8

39

TREASURY DEPT WASHINGTON

TWENTY THOUSAND JEWISH REFUGEES FROM CENTRAL EASTERN EUROPE FACING
HUNGER DEATH ALREADY NO FUNDS FOR BREAD LOCAL JEWISH COMMUNITIES NOW

PENNILESS IMPLORE GRANT JOINT RELIEF ASSOCIATION PERMISSION REMIT
FUNDS VIA SWITZERLAND OTHER NEUTRAL COUNTRIES PROHIBITION REMITTANCES
WILL BE INHUMAN SIMILAR SENTENCING DEATH CHILDREN WOMEN ESCAPED FROM
EUROPE.

TOPAS CHAIRMAN SHANGHAI JEWISH ASKENAZI COMMUNI ASSN COMMUNAL
ASSN OF JEWISH REFUGEES SEPHARDIN COMUNAL ASSN.
840AM

c

0

SS Chauncey

98

P

Y

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

January 29, 1942

CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary: Attention Mr. H. D. White
I am enclosing our compilation for the week
ended January 21, 1942, showing dollar disbursements out

of the British Empire and French accounts at this bank
and the means by which these expenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,
(s) L.W. Knoke
L.W. Knoke

Vice President

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.
Enclosure

Cory:bj:1-31-42

K

CREDITS

- of

Gov't
Other

Total

obite
1,793.2

II

31

and

17

21

1,187.6

Gold

Other

(official)(b)

828.21.356.1

52.0

CRED

Gov't

Proceeds

Total

Dear.(-)

Total

Expendi-

Other

Hn Balance

Debits

tures (d)

Debite

Credits

of Gold

Other

Sales

Credite

866.3(e)

416.6(e)

449.7

1,095.3(e)

900.2

195.1(o)

+229.0

900.2

198.2

+220.1

8.8

- 30.1

2,109.5

108.0

575.6

10.8

878.3

421.4

456.9

1,098.4

203.0 11,792.2

410.

2,189.8

1,193.7

274.0

722.1

- 13.2

38.9

4.8

34.1

8.8

176.2

20.1

2.0

154.1

+35.3

JAY

150.9

41.9

0.3
0.3

0.3

OF

44.5

134.6
51.5

- 21.5
- 36.9

16.1

0.3
0.3
16.1

0.5

0.8

0.4

0.2

0.8

0.8

9.4

Oak

35.0

TO

88.4

111.6
69.6

22.4

17.6

4.8

18.0

26.4

17.7

87

11.5

30.2

22.9

7.3

24.8

2L.L

18.8

2.6

16.8.

10.2

150.1
1.0
-

-

-

51.5

11.5

24.3
10.2

0.5

-

Tree

97.6

4.1 Million

FACE 23 1941 1941.
footmates)

133.6

18.0

-

-

-

in Balance

35.0

2,793.1

305.9

(o)

Dear. (-)

420.1

1,356

109.0
156.1

D

605.6

Debits

Secure (ties

DEBITS

1.425.6

140.9

FY

tures(a)

Total
Credits

Not
(+) or

of

-- 14.9

.5.4
-14.2

0.5
0.1

-

-

-

Seek ended January 21. 1942

-15.7
0.4

0.2

-

0.2

-0.3

0.1

0.1

-

-

0.1

-

0.1
0.1

+0.1

0.1

+0.1

-

-

0.1

upon
Commission to
for French

Cumulation from July 6, 1940

0.2

0.5

-

-

-

-

162.7

million
million

(a) Includes payments for account of British Purchasing Commission, British Air Ministry, British Supply Board, Ministry of
Supply Timber Control, and Ministry of Shipping.
(b) Estimated figures baged on transfers from the Now York Agency of the Bank of Montacal, which apparently represent the

proceeds of official British sales of American securities, including those effected through direct negotiation, In addition
to the official selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during the
early months of the war) although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be identified with any accuracy. According
to data supplied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation
of our securities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million,

(c)

Includes about $85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorised banks with New York banks,
presumably reflecting the requisitioning of private dollar balances, Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
1939 apparently represent the acquisition of proceeds of exports from the sterling area and other currently accruing dollar
receipts.

(d) Includes payments for account of French Air Commission and French Purchasing Commission,

(e) Adjusted to eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day,

Total

Bring

Other

Total
Credite

Gold
Sales

L/C

6

a

Oct,

r-Oct. 29

Oct

16.6

306ah

504.7

412.7

20.9

38.7

32.4

31.1

2.2

3.9

27.3

36.1

30.0

6.1

4.9

472

16.6

460.6

707.4

534.8

20.9

110.7

41.0

<230.2

37.9

24.5

434

62.4

Sal

22.3

. L.S

460.4

462.0

246.2
21.2

3.4

123.9

86.5

1.6

72.3

16.7

59.5

81.2

0.5

10.2

2.8

18.3
0.7

+ 9.0

10.7

62.9
PM

2.7

8.0

5.9

2.1

11.6

9.0

2.0

2.8

0.2

2M

20.1

0-5

A

Other

For

323,0

460.4

Aug.

For

37.4
52.8

42.2

33.3

-

37.4

19.7

0.1

52.7

32.5

42.2

22.2

11.9
19.3
17.5

-

31.0

029

7.8

- 17.7

8.2

5.5

13.3

<-20.3

10.3

6.9

4.9

- 25.5

0.5

-3.4
-5.6

3.9

1.8

384
2.1

2.6

7.9

+

0.2

1.1

1942

OF

Dec. 31

Tan 2
14
21

11.3
7.01

9.2

12.0

11.3

7.9

7.4

2.0

1.4

0.1

9.2

7.4

5.4

12.0

2.5

6.1

Average of Total Debits Since Outbreak of war

January 21, 1941 177 Busion

For monthly breakdown 000 tabulations prior to April 23, 1961.
⑉ For monthly breakdown 800 tabulations prior to October 8, 1941.
(o) Includes $1,000,000 credited to Australian account for credit of U. S. Navy.

1.5
2.0

1.4

1.8

...5

1.8

02

621
1.2

1.8

-

1.6

1.6

-0.2

0.7

0.2

0.2

2.1

0.6

0.6

1.5

1.2

1.6

1.6(a)

0.5

+ 04

COPY

102

TELEGRAM SENT

PLAIN

MEV

January 29, 1942
AMERICAN LEGATION,

BERN, (SWITZERLAND).

258, twenty-ninth.
AMERICAN INTERESTS - FAR EAST.

Department's 185, twenty-second.
Please delete name James J. Saxon.
HULL

(FvdA)
SD:WY:MEH

Copy:ec :2-2-42

103
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

January 29, 1942

In reply refer to
FD 881.51/89

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses

a copy of strictly confidential despatch No. 556, dated
January 14, 1942, from the American Legation, Tangier,
Morocco, concerning the exchange situation in the
Tangier Zone.

Enclosure:

From Legation, Tangier,
Despatch No. 556, dated
January 14, 1942.

LEGATION OF THE

104

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Tangier, January 14, 1942

No. 556
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Subject: Exchange Situation in the Tangier Zone.

The Honorable

The Secretary of State,
Washington, D.C.
Sir:

I have the honor to refer to the exchange and monetary situation

in the Tangier Zone with particular reference to the fall in the exchange value of the franc in Tangier and to the efforts of the Spanish

authorities to promote the circulation of the peseta and to give an
account of a conversation which I had today with Monsieur de LARGENTAYE,

Inspector of Finance and Financial Attache to the French Embassy in
Spain, who is on a visit to Morocco making a study of the exchange situation.
M. de Largentaye stated that the French Government in Vichy and

even more so the French Protectorate authorities in Rabat were very

much concerned regarding the situation of the frane in Tangier. He
stated serious consideration was being given to the withdrawal of the
Moroccan franc by the French Protectorate authorities from Tangier where,

as the Department is aware, it has a free circulation along with the
peseta. He stated that he had come to Morocco to study the situation
and to make recommendations and that he expected to see the Spanish

authorities in Tetuan and also those in Madrid before proceeding to

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Vichy where the question would be decided. He stated that unless
some accord could be reached with the Spanish for revalorizing and

stabilizing the franc (he mentioned in this connection a rate of
250 francs to 100 pesetas as a rate which in his opinion was a
normal one as compared with the present rate of 405 france to 100
pesetas), he thought the French Government would probably take the

decision of withdrawing the French Moroccan franc from circulation in
Tangier.

He expressed the view that the fall of the franc in September and
October in Tangier had been due to a flight of capital from French

Morocco following the introduction of anti-Jewish legislation. He
added that this was not a situation which the French authorities were

in a position at the present time to correct and accordingly he had
come to study what practical measures might be available. He said that
of course many persons in Tangier had attributed the fall to the action
of the Spenish authorities in endeavoring to compel payment of customs

duties in pesetas and in endeavoring to insist upon payment of fiscal
charges and of many commercial transactions in pesetas but he thought

this had been an effect of the fall in the franc rather than the cause

of it. I observed that this was also our opinion and mentioned that I
and the Consulate General in Casablanca had so reported to the Department.

M. de Largentaye asked me what our attitude and that of the

British had been and whether the British had considered the action of
the Spanish authorities in violation of the Anglo-Spanish agreement of

February 26, 1941, concerning Tangier. I stated that in view of the
small number of American merchants in Tangier the question of payment of

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customs duties in pesetas had not been of particular importance to us
and that I had viewed the problem as one which the Spanish authorities

had been forced to make out of practical necessity following the fall of

the franc. I cited to M. De Largentaye the fact that the International
Administration in 1937 had suspended the provision of Article 27 of the
Tangier Statute making the peseta legal tender following the decline in
the exchange value of the peseta at the time of the Spanish Civil War.
I stated that I had advised the Department against making any representations against the Spanish action in compelling payment of customs duties
in pesetas owing to the belief that the measure had been adopted by the
Spanish as a temporary expedient out of practical necessity and I mention
that the subsequent evidence had borne me out. I mentioned that the

British had brought suit in the Mixed Court and had obtained a decision
of that tribunal according to which the action of the customs was found

illegal and there had thereafter been a relaxation of the rule. I added
that so far as I knew the British authorities had made no formal

representations in view of the fact that they believed as we did that
the situation would be cleared up without such necessity.
M. de Largentaye asked me if I knew what the British attitude was
with regard to the Tangier Zone and what our own view was, as he stated
that he thought the French Government would naturally be influenced by

any decisions that might have been taken or which were likely to be taken

with regard to the status of Tangier. I replied that I did not know of
any decision which the British had taken with respect to the definitive
status of Tangier but that so far as I knew they continued to be interested
in the maintenance of the status quo here at the present time. I added

107
that so far as the Department was concerned I knew that we also were

very much interested in the maintenance of the special character of
Tangier although of course this was a very small problem at the present

time in the light of the general world situation. I added that I could
of course make no statement as to what might happen in the future with
reference to Tangier.

I stated that personally I thought it would be a mistake for the
French to withdraw the French franc from Tangier as it would inevitably

carry with it certain political implications. It was true, I stated,
that as M. de Largentaye had stated the status of the franc in Tangier
was a matter of embarassment to the French Portectorate so long as it

fluctuated violently and fell to a point where it had unfortunate repercussions on the economy of the French Protectorate as well as French

prestige but I thought that he should take into account the consideration
that the withdrawal of the franc from circulation by the French might

be interpreted as an act of the part of France of disinteresting itself
in Tangier. He observed that that was true but he thought that economic
motives might outweigh all other considerations.
M. de Largentaye informed me that in June, 1941, the French had
concluded with the Spanish Government a financial agreement whereby the

French agreed to make available to the Spanish in Tangier for payments
the sum of 2,500,000 france monthly but for some reason the Spanish

had only availed themselves of one such monthly transfer and that in
September, 1941. The agreement had expired at the end of 1941.

My visitor asked me if in my opinion shipments from the United

States to Tangier were likely to decrease in the future. He observed in
that connection that according to information he had been able to obtain

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from local financial sources about $25,000.00 was offered monthly on
the Tangier market against which local merchants had had to fine some
$100,000. to $125,000. monthly for the purchase of goods from the United

States. He thought that it might make some difference if it were to be
expected that our supplies to Tangier were likely to diminish. He said
he realized of course that withdrawal of the French franc from Tangier
would constitute a very severe hardship to the American and British
colonies as the consequence would be that the Spanish would probably

incorporate Tangier financially into the Spanish Zone with the result that
the peseta would no longer be available at the free exchange rate of

23.50 but rather at the official rate of 12.50.
I stated that I thought that the war and its difficulties would undoubtedly result in a considerable diminution in the export of goods from
the United States to Tangier and Spanish Morocco.

M. de Largentaye stated that so far as he could observe there was

rather looser control by the British over the destination of goods coming
into Tangier and the Spanish Zone than there was for example in Spain or

Portugal. He concluded that the British were inclined to close their eyes
to the export of goods from Tangier to the Spanish Zone and to the French

Protectorate. I stated that there was certainly no disposition on the part
of the British or Americans to disregard the export from Tangier of goods
from the United States or Great Britain to destinations other than Morocco.
M. de Largenthye stated that there was a further consideration in the
matter of monetary control in Tangier which was disturbing to the French

Protectorate. This was a matter which he could not speak of officially
but which he had no objection to mentioning personally and that was the

possible misuse of the Tangier free exchange market for france by the

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Germans. In this connection he pointed out that there was nothing to
prevent the Germans from transferring large quantities of france from
the hundreds of millions available to them in France to the French
Protectorate by the ovening up of a credit in the name of the German
Armistice Commission with the State Bank of Morocco. Such Moroccan
francs may be withdrawn by the Germans and brought up by diplomatic
bag by the German Armistice Commission to Tangier and here converted

into such foreign currency as might be available locally. I asked him
if he had any specific information which might lead him to believe the
Germans had engaged in such transactions and he said that there was rea-

son to believe that there had been some transfer to Switzerland which
might well have been for German account.

M. de Largentaye stated that he was seeing the Spanish authorities

in the next day or two and was quite anxious to know what the attitude

of the British might be with regard to Tangier. I informed him that
Mr. Yenkin, British Minister Counsellor, whom he knows personally, was

arriving in Tangier on January 16 and that if he desired I would raise
the question with my British colleague as to whether Mr. Yenkin might be

disposed to receive M. de Largentaye before the latter's departure on
January 17. M. de Largentaye stated that he was very desirous of seeing
Mr. Yenkin. He added that he had instructions that he might meet with

British diplomatic officers to discuss "service questions". He continued
by saying that he would be very glad to meet with the British Consul General

in Tangier also if the British Consul General eared to see him and I
stated that I would endeavor to ascertain and so inform him.
M. de Largentaye stated that it was very important for him to come

to a conclusion very shortly on the subject of his discussion with me as

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as he was proceeding to Madrid on January 17 and would go from thence

to Vichy where he thought an early decision would be taken by the French
Government.

He expected to have conversations in the next day or two with
Spanish officials in Tetuan whom he expected to find much more receptive

in their attitude and more "liberal" than the exchange authorities in
Madrid.

Respectfully yours,

J. Rives Childs
Charge d'Affaires ad interim

In quintuplicate to the Department
Copy to American Embassy, MADRID
VICHY

851.5

JRC/tsh

Copy:bj:1-30-42

111

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 29, 1941
Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

For.

Dietrich

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

£31,000
£16,000

Open market sterling was quoted at 4.03-3/4. with no reported transactions.

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below
were as follows:

Canadian dollar

11-7/8% discount

Argentine peso (free)

Uruguayan peso (free)
Venezuelan bolivar

.2360
.0516
.5775
.2065
.5250
.2710

Cuban peso

1/16% premium

Brazilian milreis (free)
Colombian peso
Mexican peso

We purchased $1,125,000 in gold from the earmarked account of the Bank of
Mexico.

The Banco do Brasil, as fiscal agent of the Brazilian Government, today
repurchased 100,000,000 milreis (valued at $5,000,000) of the 160,000 ,000 milreis (value, $8,000,000) which the Stabilization Fund had bought from Brazil
last November 5 under the July 1937 Stabilization Agreement with that country.
Accompanying the payment of $5,000,000 to the Fund out of Brazil's dollar account
at the New York Federal Reserve Bank, about $5,016,600 worth of the gold held as
collateral by the Federal was returned to Brazil's earmarked account. The
Stabilization Fund still holds 60,000,000 milreis, valued at $3,000,000 and
collateralized by $3,072,500 in gold.
No new gold engagements were reported.

In London, spot and forward silver remained at 23-1/28 and 23-9/16d respect-

ively, equivalent to 42.67 and 42.78

The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35
Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at
35-1/8
Ne made no purchases of silver today.

112
-2-

The report of January 21, received from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,

giving foreign exchange positions of banks and bankers in its district, revealed
that the total position of all countries was short the equivalent of $3,436,000, a
decrease of $809,000 in the short position since January 14. Net changes were as
follows:

Short Position

Europe

$

24,000 (Long)
2,473,000

Canada

661,000 (Long)

Latin America

14,000
161,000

Japan

Other Asia

All Others
Total

$ 788,000 (Long)

- $764,000

- 21,000
- 24,000

2,452,000
685,000 (Long)

+ 10,000

24,000
160,000

2,305,000

23,000 (Long)
$4,245,000

Change in

Short Position*

January 21

January 14

Country
England**

Short Position

- 1,000
8888
- 16,000
+ 7,000

2,289,000
16,000 (Long)

- $809,000

$3,436,000

. Plus sign (+) indicates increase in short position, or decrease in long position.
Minus sign (-) indicates decrease in short position, or increase in long position.
**Combined position in registered and open market sterling.

CONFIDENTIAL

A

113

BRITISH EMBASSY
WASHINGTON, D.C.

PERSONAL AND

January 29th, 1942

SECRET

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy

of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halffex
The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

114
Copy No.

13

BRITISH L'OST SECRET

(U.S. SECRET)
OPTEL No. 3/4

Information received up to 7 a.m., 28th January, 1942.
1. NAVAL

Night 22nd/23rd, In the MACASSAR STRAITS the U.S. S/M

STURGEON obtained one hit on a Cruiser or Aircraft Carrier and the Dutch

S/L K.18 sank a Destroyer and hit a Cruiser. During 24th and 25th Dutch

aircraft hit three Cruisers, a Destroyer and four Transports, two of which
sank, Night 26th/27th. H.M. Destroyers engaged an enemy Cruiser and three
Destroyers off ENDAU, One enemy Destroyer was sunk and one damaged, one

British Destroyer sank, U.S. and Australian A/S units have sunk one large
and probably one small U-boat off DARWIN, On 17th a medium sized Norwegian
tanker outward bound in convoy was torpedoed and sunk off CAPE RACE. On 22nd
a small Greek Steamer was torpedoed 260 miles from CAPE RAILS On 24th a medium

sized British Tanker was torpedoed off CAPE HATTERAS, the after part being sunk,
2. HILITARY

LIBYA. The latest reports received only cover the period
up to the afternoon of the 26th when our troops were disposed to cover BENGHAZI
and to block the enemy's further advance north and northeast of MSUS, Mobile

column and patrols are carrying out offensive operations against the enemy's
lines of communication.

MALAYA. East: Our forces are in contact with the enemy
north of JEMALUANG. Centre: Our forces have made a slight withdrawal and

heavy fighting continues. West: Heavy fighting on the coast read south of
BATU PAHAT continues but the position is confused, Somo parties of 15th

Indian Infantry Brigade reached vicinity of BENUT but it is reported that
2,000 were on beach four miles south east of SEGGARANG,
3e AIR OPERATIONS

WESTERN FRONT. 26th/27th. HANOVER - 38 tens; ENDEN - 43

tons; BREST - 39 tons, During these operations five N.C,A,F. and eight

R.A.A.F. aircraft took part without casualties. 27th/28th, 51 aircraft
send out, BREST - 35; BOULOGNE - 10; shipping off GRAVELINES - 6. No
casualties,

LIBYA. Throughout 26th our fighters attacked M.T. and tanks
moving between ANTELAT, SAUNNU and MSUS. Heavy damage was inflicted estimated

at a minimum of 120 vehicles destroyed or damaged and 200 troops killed and

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wounded, Traffic on ANTELAT-ISUS Track, heavy in the morning had practically
ceased in the afternoon and many vehicles had been abandoned. Only two enemy

aircraft, one of which was destroyed, were seen. We had no casualties,
SICILY. Night 26th/27th, Wellington bombers dropped
seven tons of bombs on CATANIA and four tons on COLISO. Hangara and runways
streddled at both aerodromes.

MALTA. 26th/27th, Enemy aircraft approached the island

on several occasions but few aircraft crossed the coast, 27th. Twenty aircraft dropped bombs damaging buildings and dockyard machinery in the grand

harbour. There were no casualties,
MALAYA. 25th/26th, 19 bombers with 23 fighters as escort
attacked an enemy naval force north east of ENDAU, Hits are reported on a
Cruiser and two Merchant Vessels of 8,000 and 9,000 tons respectively. Two
further forces of bombers and fighters were despatched to continue the attack
but no details have yet been received, Enemy troops on ENDAU-MERSING road

were bombed and a large stores dump was hit. Fierce opposition was encoun-

tered from a large number of enemy fighters, thirteen of our aircraft are
missing and two more crashed. Enemy casualties were eleven destroyed, two
probably destroyed and three damaged by our aircraft, also another destroyed

by A.A. fire. 26th. 27 enemy aircraft bombed TENGAH aerodrome rendering it
unserviceable and continually attacked our forward troops and communications,
27th. 65 enemy aircraft attacked KALLANG and SELETAR, seven of our aircraft
were destroyed on the ground and thirteen damaged. Hangars and other buildings
were hit.
NETHERLANDS EAST INDIES. Many enemy attacks on shipping

off west coast of SUMATRA and raids in varying force at scattered points in
the Eastern Archipelago are reported.
4.

There is further corroboration of the recent reports that

throughout the last fortnight of December forty trains of 35 oil tank cars
each, passed daily through BASLE from GERMANY to ITALY, this representing

the movement of no less than 300,000 tons of oil from GERMANY to ITALY in
two weeks,

116

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 29,1942

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Mr. Kemarck

FROM

Subject: Summary of Military Reports
Far East

Another British convoy of troops arrived at Singapore
January 24. (This makes the third in the last month).
Our army believes that the British and Japanese forces are
approaching equality in strength.
The Japanese still have air superiority in Malaya.
on

The British have landed plane reinforcements, however,
and have at least one squadron of Hurricanes now in

action. In the air battles, the British have inflicted
somewhat more loss than they have suffered. The number
of airfields available to the British is limited and this
has enabled the Japanese to cause considerable damage to

British planes on the ground.
As yet, no large American forces have reached the
Far East. A few driblets of airplanes have been thrown
into the action, however.

The fortunes of the war are still on the side of the

Japanese. They still have ample forces and the shipping
and freedom of the seas, necessary to transport these
forces to the various fronts. While the Japanese planes

have proved to be quite good, it is in the air that the
turn in the war will come first. The small air strength
of the Japanese is a weakness which is already beginning
to manifest itself.
(U.K. Operations Reports, January 15-22,27:

M.I.D. Information, January 29, 1942)

Russo-German Front

The Russian pressure all along the Russo-German front

is making it increasingly difficult for the Germens to
regain the initiative on land. The Germans still are not

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able to withdraw and refit enough divisions for fresh
operations, to enable them to exercise the strategical
initiative once again.
The Russians are maintaining their superiority in
the air. The size of the handicap which the weather is
to the Germans may be inferred from the fact that the
British state that German air activity is mainly on the

southern front, from Kharkov to the Crimea. Whenever
weather permits the German air force to operate, the
Russians interrupt it by frequent attacks on the airdromes used by their fighters and dive bombers.

The British estimate that the Germans are now using
1,500 planes on the Russian front, compared with over
2,500 during the first weeks of their Russian campaign.
(U.K. Operations Report, January 15-22, 1942)

Battle of the Atlantic
On January 25, aerial reconnaissance showed both

German battle cruisers at Brest out of the dry-dock.
(These two 26,000 ton ships may be ready for sea duty again.
The 35,000 battleship, Tirpitz, is at Trondheim, Norway.
All three major units of the German navy are thus at ports
on the open Atlantic.)
(U.K. Operations Report, January 26, 1942)
The main concentration of German submarines is on the
North American coast, from Newfoundland to Virginia.
Smaller groups are working in northwest approaches to

England, near the Azores, and off the northern coast of

Russia, off Murmansk.

(U.K. Operations Report, January 15-22, 1942)
German Army

The British estimate that the Germans have 23 divisions

in France and 11 or 12 in the Balkans. (A year ago, the

Germans had at least 50 divisions in France.)

(U.K. Operations Report, January 15-22, 1942)

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Shipment of 011 to Italy
The movements of oil from Germany to Italy via the
St. Gotthard in Switzerland, which started on December

12, were still continuing on January 18. Three or four
trains of tank cars, representing about 1,800 tons of oil,

were going through daily. Some of the tank wagons contained

gasoline.

(At this rate, Italy would be receiving 84,000 tons

of oil per month from Germany. The British, some time
ago, estimated that the Italians need, as a minimum,
100,000 tons a month. The significant factor in these
shipments is that the oil is coming from Germany, whereas
it would seem that Romania would be the logical source.
This might indicate serious transport troubles in Hungary
and Yugoslavia.)

(U.K. Operations Report, January 27, 1942)

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January 29, 1942

Dear Bill:

Thank you for your letter of Janvary 27th, transmitting reports received
from your London office.
I was verymmuch interested in
reading them.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) Henry

Col. William J. Donovan,
Coordinator of Information,
Washington, D. C.

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COORDINATOR OF INFORMATION
WASHINGTON D.C.

January 27, 1942

Dear Henry:

The attached reports have just come to
me from our London office.

I thought you might be interested in
seeing these.

Sincerely,

Bill

William J. Donovan

Honorable Henry Morgenthau

The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

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COORDINATOR OF INFORMATION

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Summary of Home Public Opinion

British Secret Ministry of Information
There has been a slight decrease in public confidence,
and satisfaction over Russian progress is overshadowed by

anxiety over the Far East. There is some disappointment
over the stalemate in Libya and increased extended anxiety
in Far East, Pessimism over Singapore continues and is in-

tensified. There is criticism of lack of foresight.
There is enthusiasm over Russian successes, but some

sections of the middle classes are uneasy over the possible

extension of Russian post-war influence detailed for internal
changes.

Some fear Rommel out-maneuvered the allies in Libya,

and are concerned lest the battle be prolonged indefinitely.
The question "Where is the U. S. Fleet?" is widespread.

Some revival of "All talk and no do" criticism. Admiration
of MacArthur's stand demonstrating American ability and

willingness to fight. General feeling that "when America

really gets going she will pull the chestnuts out of the fire."
Very little interest in Pan American Conference. There is
some hope that the Americans may undertake in Fire what the

British are reluctant to carry out.
There are hopes and expectations of the replacement of

incompetents instead of mere reshuffling in the Cabinet. The
public is sympathetic with Australian demands for an Empire

Cabinet. General feeling is that radical changes in the conduct

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of the war are necessary to achieve victory.

There is criticism of the apparent failure of the nonstop bombing offensive against Germany.

There is continued criticism of radio and press, with a
tendency to minimize Far East defeats.

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The following are excerpts from The Ministry of
Economic Warfare's Weekly propaganda digest, which have just
come to us from the London Office.

Reports show that typhus is reaching epidemic

proportions in the east. All ordinary travelling
between Germany and occupied states has been sus-

pended. Officials and soldiers who must travel must
undergo a period of quarantine. Schools closed in
the Ukraine. Disease has already penetrated into
Germany as far as Frankfurt-on-Main but there is no
sign yet of the epidemic in the German army because

of careful precautions. The Roumanians are suffer-

ing seriously. Special steps have been taken in
Lithuania.

Reichsarbeitsblatt puts the figures of foreign
workers in Germany at the end of September at 2,139,000

including 472,000 women. A special effort is now under
way to recruit foreign women workers, especially Polish,
Flemish, Bulgarian and French.

Italy and France signed an agreement late in
December whereby the French will open a credit account

in favor of Italy while Italy renounces claims on
infantry and artillery weapons, motor vehicles and
other supplies of French troops who fought Italians.

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The Swedish press reports a complete prohibition
of alcoholic beverages in Germany effective from

January 1st. Production in 1942 is restrictable to
industrial alcohol. These steps are explicable because of the lack of potatoes, the increased need of

alcohol for making Buna, and the stringency of the oil

situation causing a need for substitute feuls.
Supplies of barley and malt to German brewers

have been cut further. Expected rationing or reduction

of the alcoholic content of beer is necessary. In
Munich, cafes are to limit quantities sold to one
large glass per serson, remain open only two hours
daily.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE 2/2/42
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Vincent F. Callahan

The Donald Duck motion picture about income taxes started
in big Broadway theatres Wednesday and Thursday of last week.
Paul Munroe yesterday (Sunday) contacted managers of Radio
Music Hall, Roxy, Capitol, Paramount, Loew's State, Palace,

Criterion, Broadway, and Strand, all of which theatres are
running the picture.
Here are various quotations from these managers:

"Patrons comment all very favorable.
Excellent reel.
People like very much.
Gets good laughs.

Terrific reel.

Gives people brand new slant.
Generous applause.

Couldn't imagine how it could have been done any better.
Liked very much."
There were no unfavorable comments.

Mr. Munroe personally saw the picture and was very enthusiastic
about it. He said that everyone around him in the theatre seemed to
enjoy the picture and there was a general spirit of laughter throughout the showing of the film.

Uincert 7. Callaho

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THIS WEEK
January 22-29,1942

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Coordinator of Information

THE WAR THIS WEEK
January 22-29, 1942
Despite the declining momentum of the drive on Singapore

and the savage counterthrust of the Dutch and American
forces in the Battle of Macassar Strait, the wide-ranging
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Japanese offensive continues to press relentlessly outward
toward its objectives. Burma and Singapore stand in grave
danger, and observers refuse to predict where the enemy can
be stopped in the Netherlands Indies. Simultaneously General Rommel has delivered a counterstroke in Cyrenaica and

may soon force British withdrawal from Benghazi. On the
eastern front, it is true, the Germans have fallen back rapidly
in the region of the Valdai Hills, but even here Russian successes to date must be interpreted as infiltration in an area

lightly held. A decisive action, if there is to be one, still

lies in the future.

Economic Significance of the Widening Japanese Offensive
In the Far East Japan is advancing along a great are from
Moulmein in Burma, through Jahore, Southern Borneo and
the Celebes, to the island of New Britain, east of New Guinea.

Within this are lie the rice, rubber, tin, iron, oil, and chrome
of French Indo-China, Thailand, the Philippines, and much
of Malaya.

By completing the conquest of the Netherlands Indies and

Malaya and by taking Burma-that is, by extending her
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lines to the next great are-Japan would satisfy her needs for
petroleum, bauxite, lead, and tungsten. She would receive
also important quantities of nickel, antimony, phosphates,

There it is in a position to defend the northern route from
Thailand into Burma. British approval for the movement
of Chinese troops into Burma over the direct and practicable
route offered by the Burma Road was finally given, it is indicated, only on January 25.

zine, and cotton. If New Caledonia, which lies within the
greater are, were taken, Japanese deficiencies in nickel, phos-

phates, and cobalt would be eliminated, and these supplies
would at the same time be denied to the United Nations.

The fall of Rangoon and the closing of the Burma route
would not necessarily bring Chinese resistance to an end.
In her struggle with Japan, China has depended primarily
on her own resources. The volume of military supplies

The Threat to Burma

reaching the Chinese by the Burma route has been too small

From a strategic point of view, the immediate Japanese
objective is to seize successively the bases from which the

to be of major military importance. Total traffic over the
road has only recently attained a figure of 17,500 tons a

Allies can prosecute the war and to use these bases to extend

month.

their own area of control. At the same time the Japanese

On the other hand, the possible psychological repercussions

aim to isolate their pristine enemy, the Chinese, by seizing
Burma and closing China's primary supply route.

in China, if Japan takes Burma, should not be minimized.

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Chinese resistance may be more significantly affected in the

In pursuance of this latter object, they are driving, with

near future by political, rather than by purely military

Thai aid, on Moulmein, whence the railroad leads to Ran-

factors. Chinese morale and the continuation of the Chinese

goon. The British ground forces are light, but have been

war effort will take on added importance if Japan gets into
the Indian Ocean and the Bay of Bengal, for in that case

resisting stubbornly at Kawareik, east of Moulmein, where

the Japs have debouched from the mountainous jungle,

China may again become the only effective base of resistance

admirably suited for infiltration, into the open paddy lands.
Previously the Japanese had taken Tavoy, which occupies a

to Japan.

strategic position to the south, and facilitates attacks on
shipping proceeding into the Gulf of Martaban, at the head

The Threat to India

of which lies Rangoon.

The Japanese push in Burma projects a threat in still
another direction. Air raids on Calcutta and possibly

permission by the British to enter Burma, and that of this
force only one regiment had thus far arrived. This regiment
had entered the Shan States overland by a difficult and cir-

cuitous route and taken up a position north of Thailand.

Madras early in February or even sooner are expected by
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Quite contrary to press reports that Chinese troops have
been streaming into Burma to defend the country against
the Japanese and Thai invaders, confidential advices up to
January 25 indicate that only two divisions had been given

the commanding general in Calcutta and by leading industrialists there, according to a report from a completely

trustworthy source in New Delhi. Most of the economic
activity of eastern India would probably be paralyzed at
once, the latter continues, by the flight of railway, port and
industrial workers at the time of the first raid-a situation

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which has already been produced in Rangoon. Such a
movement would suspend the availability to forces overseas, both to the east and the west, of strategic cargoes
and munitions from this area.

This vulnerable east coast of India includes the most
highly industrialized section of the country. In Calcutta
are situated most of the cotton mills of Bengal, and that same

province is the center of the Indian paper industry. Here,
and in the adjoining province of Bihar, ninety-four per cent
of India's pig iron production and ninety-eight per cent of its

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Threat to Madagascar?

The close interrelation of the European and Asiatic theaters
of war and the danger that they will eventually converge were
given fresh emphasis by a recent and confidential statement of

General Smuts, South African premier, who expressed the
fear that the Axis might seize bases in the French Island of
Madagascar, from which the Indian Ocean routes could be
attacked. If Singapore should be neutralized, the General
continued, the Capetown route to the Far East would become

steel output are found. The Tata steel plant, largest in the
British Empire, is in Bihar within 150 miles of Calcutta.

of vital importance for areas previously supplied from west
coast ports in the United States. It should also be noted

Likewise concentrated in the provinces of Bengal and Bihar
is eighty-four per cent of the coal production of India. And
to the south, Madras is second only to Bombay in textiles.
In fact it may be said that Bombay, on the west coast, is the

that Madagascar is a significant source of graphite and mica
for the United States.
Retirement on Singapore

only highly industrialized area not immediately vulnerable

On the Malayan front the British Imperial forces have lost
Batu Pahat, Kluang, and Mersing, the three principal points
on the defense line described in last week's analysis, and in
the west they have been driven to a point with in forty miles
of Singapore. There appears to be only one further defense

to Japanese pressure.

The Factor of Indian Morale

The same source also raises the all-important nationalist
issue in India and declares that a Japanese occupation of
Rangoon and the fall or isolation of Singapore would greatly
accelerate the tension and anti-British feeling in Madras and
Bengal, which are expected to increase rapidly in any event.
It has been pointed out once again by a close observer of

line short of the Strait of Johore-a rugged range of hills
north of the Strait, on the left flank, and smaller isolated
hills to the east, supported by a lateral highway. Early
British retirement to this line is probably to be anticipated.
The proximity of Sumatra to the Malay Peninsula and the
current heavy air attacks on the island suggest the possibility of landing operations there, which might mean the

the Indian scene that the morale of the country will be

virtual isolation of Singapore.

jeopardized by unsatisfied nationalist ambitions unless the
nationalists can be persuaded that their own ambitions will

The Drive on the Netherlands Indies

be advanced by the success of the Allied cause. As to whether

British promises will be realized in concrete form in the postwar world, there is considerable skepticism.

In the Netherlands Indies the Japanese have already pene-

trated the first line of Dutch air defenses, extending from
Sambas in northwest Borneo to Hollandia on the northern

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out. Fighter-escorted bombers based at these points in

shore of New Guinea. With the string of bases now occupied
in Borneo and the Celebes, the Japanese flank three passages

sufficient numbers could drive shipping out of the Strait and

leading through the second line of Dutch air defenses to

force our Pacific traffic to the Far East to take the long way

Java-the South China Sea, the Strait of Macassar and the
Sea of Molucca. During recent Japanese operations in the
Strait of Macassar a devastating attack was made by American and Dutch forces with resulting heavy Japanese losses,
particularly of transports. This engagement continues.
Despite these reverses, however, the Japanese succeeded
in occupying the important oil center of Balik Papan on the

around southern Australia, adding some eight to ten days to

east coast of Borneo. They have also had the key Dutch
fortress on Ambon Island under frequent and heavy aerial

bombardment. From Macassar in the Celebes and from
bases in southeast Borneo, which are now under fire, the last

line of Dutch air and naval defenses through Batavia and
Surabaya could be brought under air attack, and the conquest of strategic Java undertaken.
Threat to Australia

For the first time in their history, the Australians are
fighting an alien invader. At Rabaul, the Japanese have
landed with ten thousand troops, according to the Australian
Government, and the Japs have claimed a successful landing
at Kavieng, New Ireland. Several points in northeast New

Guinea also are reported to be under attack. Tokyo radio
has indicated that its all-out offensive will embrace not only

the journey. The loss of the Torres Strait route would be a
bitter blow. Our aid to China would suffer; our chances for
ready reinforcement of the Allied command based in Java

would be impeded; and the opportunities for supplying
Russia via the Pacific would be still further narrowed.
The Strength of Japanese Forces

In general it may be said that the Japanese forces in southeast Asia have not been notably large and that they have been

thinly spread. The Japanese successes reflect the fact that
the forces of their enemies have been even more thinly
spread. Of the seventy-two seasoned divisions in the Japanese army (18,000 men each), it is believed that only eighteen
(plus some special units) are now operating in southeastern

Asia. Seven are in Thailand (plus one and a half tank regi-

ments), five in Malaya (plus one tank regiment), one in Sara-

wak and Borneo, and one in the Davao area. Finally, in the
Philippines, General MacArthur, in a stand which the Presi-

dent has called "magnificent," is holding no fewer than five
divisions, an independent brigade, and half a tank regiment.
The importance of this feat for the hard-pressed forces of the
Allies elsewhere in Malaysia needs no comment.

the East Indies but Australia and India as well, and high
Australian officials have made repeated appeals for aid.
The present objective of the Japanese, however is believed
by leading military observers to be somewhat less than the
conquest of Australia itself. The attack on Rabaul and New
Guinea was planned primarily in order to cut the important

Counter-Thrust in Cyrenaica

Allied supply route through the Torres Strait, they point

made a diversion of effort to that area inevitable. Simul-

With the ironic regularity of the pendulum, the war in
Libya now seems once more ready to swing into the east.
Just as the British line of communication was reaching its
maximum extension, the demands of the Far Eastern conflict

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taneously, General Rommel was being notably reinforced in

neutral and to maintain the status quo in the western Medi-

men and matériel. At least one large convoy and several
smaller ones reached Tripoli. Earlier claims placed the

terranean. Orgaz and his entourage are said to be increas-

ingly friendly to both British and Americans.
In spite of this apparent détente in Nazi relations with
France and Spain, there continue to be indications from
various sources that disquieting developments have been
in the making for some time. Specific point is given to this

destruction of Axis convoys in the Mediterranean as high

two-thirds of all tonnage. The British now admit that 75 as
per cent of Axis shipments are reaching their destination.
Rommel's counter thrust from El-Agheila succeeded first

in taking Agedabia, and a second stroke had placed Axis

general evidence by a report from a high source that a

forces on Wednesday sixteen miles southeast of Benghazi,

meeting of Hitler and Pétain is forecast for the end of this
month and that the results of secret negotiations between
France and Germany will then be announced. Under these
new arrangements the Nazis would restrict the occupation
of French territory to strategic points and release a further
batch of German prisoners. In return, France would permit

which is in obvious danger of early capture. If Axis forces
take it, they will repossess a valuable air base for the protection of convoys from Italy.
Rommel's intentions cannot now be accurately forecast.

But the reported character of the German preparations
in southern Italy and Sicily and the apparent extent of
the reinforcement of Rommel to date strongly suggest a

the use of its African colonies for Axis military operations.

major and continuing effort to dislodge the British in western

The Russian Infiltration in the Valdai Hills.
The eastern front has again this week witnessed one of

Cyrenaica and drive them back on Egypt. The Axis position in the Mediterranean may have been further strengthened by recent British naval losses which now include the
battleship Barham, whose sinking on November 25 has just
been admitted by the British Admiralty.

those spectacular thrusts which delight the speculative news

analyst. Superficially the Soviets appear to have driven a
significant salient through the Valdai Hills and to have placed

the German left flank in a position of dramatic danger.

Detente in the West?

These gains are, however, more apparent than real.
The explanation of this sudden advance in the Valdai area

Nazi successes in Libya should logically render the Germans less interested in the occupation of French and Spanish

lies in the nature of the operations there. Here solid lines
never existed, and the two armies moved in small detach-

North Africa, at the same time that Nazi reverses in Russia

ments and patrols, confining themselves to air reconnaissance

able should stiffen French resistance. The meagre evidence availed that supports this general postulate. From Tunis it is
officials are beginning to oppose the shipment of report-

over large areas. The Germans appear simply to have
stopped here while waiting for Leningrad and Moscow to fall.

When winter came, they grouped their troops in islands of

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plies in French bottoms to Tripolitania by way of Tunisia. sup-

resistance for winter shelter. Last week the Russians pene-

ed Orgaz to and other highly placed Spanish functionaries are
have said that the Spanish are determined to remain report-

trated the gaps left open, while the Germans executed a
careful withdrawal. The small number of casualties reported
indicates that the latter offered little resistance.

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The accompanying map, moreover, shows that the Valdai
Hills had earlier proved no serious obstacle to the Germans.

No Russian Victory to Date.

In summary, the accompanying map illustrating the Rus-

After the capture of Smolensk, the Nazis were held up for

sian counter offensive reveals that, since the original German
defeat before Moscow, Russian gains have been comparatively

most of September and early October by operations connected

with the reduction of Bryansk, Vyazma, and Orel-operations that occasionally necessitated an actual withdrawal

unimportant. Exceptions are the present advance in the
north and the creation of the salient in the area where the
Bryansk-Vyazma railroad was cut. These two towns and

from previously held positions. The Valdai region, however,

succumbed easily, as did most of the open area between

Orel are once again the stumbling blocks to a further advance.

Vyazma and the Moscow defensive zone. North and west
of Kalinin there was little change after the middle of Novem-

ber, when the Germans were concentrating on their final

This essentially conservative view of the Russian front is
that of highly placed American military observers. It is to
be contrasted with the British view which is in general decidedly more sanguine. Indeed the British Military Mission

The Future of the Russian Offensive

in Moscow is reported to be very optimistic, and one of their

From their newly created salient in the Valdai Hills, the
Russians have two alternatives. They may either strike

number feels that the destruction of the Nazi armies is very

attempt to capture Moscow.

both directions at once, provided always that they have
adequate transport and man power. Against either of these

attacks
units.

the Germans could probably send mobile reserve

The Russian claim that they have cut the LeningradVitebsk railroad is premature. The Germans still have
lateral rail communication in the rear of their fighting forces.
Nor is there any indication that the Germans have revealed
their inexperience on the defensive, as nemilitary authority
has suggested. The withdrawal here, as opposed to that of
the British in Malaya, has not been executed in close contact
with the enemy, and even the Russians have not claimed that
German losses in men and matériel have been very heavy.
The trap at Mozhaisk, for example, somehow failed to close.
Only a smashing Russian success in the Rzhev-VyazmaSmolensk area could be interpreted as a real disruption of the

German defensive strategy.

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north to relieve Leningrad, or south toward Smolensk, or in

possible and that a spring offensive is beyond the means of
the Germans.

Elsewhere on the eastern front no significant changes have

been made. The Russians have resumed the attack southeast of Kharkov but have gained little or no ground. The
striking initial successes in the Crimea have had no sequel,
and in the eastern part of the peninsula the Soviets are actually
falling back in places.
Continuing German Difficulties

Despite the somewhat limited character of Russian
successes to date, it would be unwise to pass in silence the

continuing difficulties of the Germans. A high military
source notes that in recent weeks on the Moscow front the
German air force does not appear to have been able seriously

to interfere with the Russian supply system or to protect
effectively its own retreating columns.
The Nazis have been unable to withdraw more than a few

divisions for rest and refitting in Germany, notes the same

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source, and the armored divisions have as a whole been in

action for six months without a respite. Another division
has just left France for Russia, bringing the total to nine in

all. It is also reported that fifteen troop trains a day are
moving currently from Buda-Pest to Bucharest. Three
GermanFront.
units were also recently moved from Greece to the
Russian
Repercussions on the German Economic Front

Repercussions of the Russian campaign have also been felt

in German industry where it is believed that the withdrawal
of manpower to the eastern front during the past six months

has reduced total German industrial production. The
replacements-largely women, foreign workers, and prisoners

-have probably been inadequate to fill the gap. A report
from Bern notes that hours of labor, which were generally
reduced
again.

to nine a day last summer, have been lengthened

pari passu by the more subtle Nazi economic conquest of
the Continent. "By a process that must be called the most
gigantic theft in the history of modern capitalism, Germany
has today an all but complete mastery of the business life of

Europe," declares a report being prepared for the Coordinator of Information on the present status of the German New

Order in Europe. The Nazis have seized all the government property of the conquered countries. German interests

are supreme in banking and insurance; in coal, iron, and
steel; in the machine and machine-tool industries; in light
metals; in textiles; in electrical applicances; in chemicals and
oil; and in transportation.
German business interests have been greatly enriched by
this process, the report continues, and conservative business

groups throughout Europe find themselves more and more

Despite these difficulties German production figures remain
impressive. All observers agree that the Nazis have recently

made efforts to increase aircraft-plant capacity. Current
aircraft production by Germany is estimated at 1,720-2,000
planes a month by a British source, and at 2,200-3,015 by an
American source. To these we may add an Italian production of 350 planes a month (American source: 450), a French
output of 200-250 (no American estimate), and a Japanese
production of 350 (American source: 500).

The Germans are probably turning out submarines at the
rate of 18 to 20 per month-a total of 250 being under con-

struction at any one time. Fifty more are building in Italy,
twelve in Japan, and five in France. Axis artillery production (exclusive of Japan) is estimated by the British source
as follows: Field guns (75 mm. and higher), 700 & month;

antitank
575
heavy),
430guns,
a month.

Toward the Nazi New Order in Europe
The march of the German soldier has been accompanied

a month; antiaircraft guns (light and

dependent upon Hitler. In this way the New Order has
won a menacing measure of success. Financial interests are
so completely dependent upon the Nazi regime that in case
of a German defeat they look forward to chaos.
The New Order in the East

Quite apart from the Nazi absorption of continental business, the New Order has other facets as well. The Nazis
have promised "a living wall of German men" in the East,
and 600,000 German "colonists" have been poured into the

annexed areas of Poland. Poles have been systematically
squeezed out of their occupations to make room for the conquerors. Property has been seized wholesale, it is reported,
and these seizures have not been limited to property of the
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(of which some 4,700 were German-owned), there remain only
34,000, and 10,000 of these are in German hands.

In Upper Silesia the story is the same, but the tempo is
slower. The Nazis apologize for the slowness of the process,

but promise that it will be thorough. In the Czechish
"Protectorate," between Moravia and Austria, on a belt of
land more than thirty miles wide, all Czech peasants have
been removed and replaced by Germans from the east.
Compromise at Rio

The closing days of the Rio Conference resulted in a compro-

mise rather than in a complete diplomatic victory for the
United States. Its most important achievement was, of
course, the recommendation that every American republic

sever relations with the Axis. Incidental to this were the
agreements to coordinate production facilities and to eliminate
trade barriers for the duration of the war. And a settlement

of the long-standing
dispute between Peru and
Ecuador
seems to be in boundary
sight.
The original proposal for a mandatory rupture with the
Axis, supported by the United States, Uruguay, Brazil, and

the Caribbean countries, failed by only a narrow margin.
At one point Ruiz Guinazu, the Argentine foreign minister,

appeared ready to sign such an agreement. But a lastminute telephone call from Acting President Castillo, expressing the characteristic stand of the conservative and "national-

ist" Argentine government, induced Guinazu to stiffen his
attitude. The resulting compromise resolution was much
closer to the original Argentine position than it was to that

of the United States. So far, however, every American
republic except Chile and Argentina has broken off relations
with the Axis. The next few days will reveal to what extent
Conference.
these two intend to carry out the recommendation of the Rio
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M.I.D., W.D.

11:00 A.M., January 29, 1942

SITUATION REPORT
I.

Pacific Theater.

Philippines: Our artillery yesterday broke up headlong hostile
infantry attacks on both our right and left flanks. The enemy suffered
heavy losses. There was limited air activity against which our antiaircraft functioned effectively. No change in Visayans or Mindanao.
Hawaii: An enemy submarine torpedoed and sank a small American ship 30

miles north of the Island of Hawaii. 29 lives were lost. Malaya: Japanese have reached a general line from 40 to 50 miles north of Singapore.

According to the press, the British are preparing fields of fire on the
north shore of Singapore Island. Burma: There is no change in the
ground situation as the Japanese continue operations for an attack on
Mulmein. A Japanese air attack on Rangoon on the 28th was driven off with
heavy losses to the enemy. Sumatra: The west Sumatra coast town, Emma

Haven, suffered another Japanese air raid on January 28. Australasia:
There is no material change in the situation. The enemy continues his

air attacks on Islands north of Australia.
II. Eastern Theater.

Ground: Fighting continues along the Eastern front. On the
Central front the Germans claim successful counterattacks. (No situation
map will be issued this date.)
Air: The Russian High Command claims that 30 German planes were

destroyed over the eastern front on January 28, with the loss of only 8
Russian planes.

III. Western Theater.
On the 28th, the RAF carried out further heavy attacks on
objectives in Western Germany and the Lowlands.

IV. Middle Eastern Theater.
Ground: Press reports indicate that Axis forces have shifted
their main effort north and east of Msus to a northwest drive on Benghazi.
A strong force is moving northward along the coastal strip south of
Benghazi and another strong force, striking northwest out of Msus, has
reached a position 16 miles east of Benghazi.
Air: on the 28th, the RAF carried out a heavy bombing attack on

the Italian base at Tripoli. Its attacks on advancing Axis forces and
supply lines continue. Axis air forces are active against British ground
forces and are continuing their day and night bombing of Malta.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington

FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,

Friday, January 30, 1942.

The Secretary of the Treasury, by this public notice, invites
tenders for $150,000,000, or thereabouts, of 91-day Treasury bills,
to be issued on a discount basis under competitive bidding. The
bills of this series will be dated February 4, 1942, and will
mature May 6, 1942, when the face amount will be payable without

interest. They will be issued in bearer form only, and in
denominations of $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, $100,000, $500,000, and
$1,000,000 (maturity value).
Tenders will be received at Federal Reserve Banks and Branches

up to the closing hour two o'clock p. m., Eastern Standard time,
Monday, February 2, 1942. Tenders will not be received at the
Treasury Department, Washington. Each tender must be for an even
multiple of $1,000, and the price offered must be expressed on the
basis of 100, with not more than three decimals, e. g., 99.925.
Fractions may not be used. It is urged that tenders be made on
the printed forms and forwarded in the special envelopes which will
be supplied by Federal Reserve Banks or Branches on application
therefor.

Tenders will be received without deposit from incorporated

banks and trust companies and from responsible and recognized

dealers in investment securities. Tenders from others must be

accompanied by payment of 10 percent of the face amount of Treasury

bills applied for, unless the tenders are accompanied by an express
guaranty of payment by an incorporated bank or trust company.
Immediately after the closing hour, tenders will be opened at
the Federal Reserve Banks and Branches, following which public
announcement will be made by the Secretary of the Treasury of the
amount and price range of accepted bids. Those submitting tenders
will be advised of the acceptance or rejection thereof. The
Secretary of the Treasury expressly reserves the right to accept

or reject any or all tenders, in whole or in part, and his action
in any such respect shall be final. Payment of accepted tenders
at the prices offered must be made or completed at the Federal
Reserve Bank in cash or other immediately available funds on
February 4, 1942.

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The income derived from Treasury bills, whether interest or

gain

from the sale or other disposition of the bills, shall not

have any exemption, as such, and less from the sale or other disposition of Treasury bills shall not have any special treatment,
as such, under Federal tax Acts now or hereafter enacted. The
bills shall be subject to estate, inheritance, gift, or other
excise taxes, whether Federal or State, but shall be exempt from
all taxation now or hereafter imposed on the principal or interest
thereof by any State, or any of the possessions of the United

States, or by any local taxing authority. For purposes of taxation
the amount of discount at which Treasury bills are originally sold
by the United States shall be considered to be interest. Under

Sections 42 and 117 (a) (1) of the Internal Revenue Code, as amended
by Section 115 of the Revenue Act of 1941, the amount of discount

at which bills issued hereunder are sold shall not be considered to
accrue until such bills shall be sold, redeemed or otherwise
disposed of, and such bills are excluded from consideration as
capital assets. Accordingly, the owner of Treasury bills (other
than life insurance companies) issued hereunder need include in
his income tax return only the difference between the price paid
for such bills, whether on original issue or on subsequent purchase,
and the amount actually received either upon sale or redemption at
maturity during the taxable year for which the return is made, as
ordinary gain or loss.
Treasury Department Circular No. 418, as amended, and this

notice, prescribe the terms of the Treasury bills and govern the
conditions of their issue. Copies of the circular may be obtained
from any Federal Reserve Bank or Branch.

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January 31, 1942
9:11 a.m.

Operator: Go ahead.
Ronald
Ransom:

This is Ronald Ransom.

HMJr:

Hello, Ronald.

R:

How are you today?

HMJr:

Okay.

R:

Mrs. Ransom and I are having the Presidents of
the Federal Reserve Banks up for cocktails Monday
afternoon, between six and seven.

HMJr:

Yes.

R:

And she will call Mrs. Morgenthau and ask her.

HMJr:
R:

I just hoped that you, too, could drop by.
I'11 try.

Yes. They're here on one of their regular meetings,
and I thought it would be very interesting to them
to have a chance to say hello to you.

HMJr:

I'll try my best, Ronald. It's very kind of you

R:

Yes. And I thought I'd ask Preston Delano and

HMJr:

to think of me.

his wife, also
Well, that will be very nice.

and try to maintain some of these contacts.

R:

HMJr:
R:

Righto.

Thanks. And Mrs. Ransom will call Mrs. Morgenthau
during the day.

HMJr:

Are you asking Bell?

R:

Yes.

HMJr:

Good.

R:

Yes.

HMJr:

Good-bye.

Okay. Good-bye.

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January 30, 1942
9:30 a.m.

GROUP MEETING

Present: Mr. Morris
Mr. Buffington
Mr. Odegard

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Paul

Mr. Graves
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Gaston
Mr. Haas
Mr. Schwarz

Mr. Blough
Mr. White
Mr. Foley

Mr. Viner
Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr: Have you anything?
MR. GASTON: Nothing except I mentioned in there

they would like a Defense Savings exhibit in New York
on February 23, Washington's Birthday. I assume that

will
be all right. Harold will take care of it. That
is all.

MR. FOLEY: I have nothing. I would like to stay
behind a minute, if I may, about that question you asked

me last night.

H.M.JR: All right.
MR. MORRIS: I have a memo quoting a nice wire
here from Armours, who are an issuing agent (dated

January 29). They are having a big campaign on February 9.

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-2H.M.JR: You sort of hesitated about sending these

telegrams out, but I think that is good.

MR. MORRIS: It was more when I thought of the

other things I had to do.

H.M.JR: That is all right. What else?
MR. MORRIS: That is all.
MR. SULLIVAN: We called off that Town Hall speak-

ing date on February 12. You recall that the original
invitation was to talk war financing, and you suggested
I get it changed to taxes.
H.M.JR: I am listening.
MR. SULLIVAN: I called, and the woman with whom

I had first spoken wasn't there, and I talked with her
assistant, and I said I thought I might be able to
arrange to get up there if we could talk about taxes.
She said, "Well, I think the program is broad enough.

I think we can do that. And that is certainly what

Mr. Hanes had in mind when he agreed to take the other

side." And I said, "What other side?" She said, "Well,
the other side of the Treasury's six percent plan."
(Laughter) I said, "Well, thank you very much. I
will see what I can do and I will let you know." So
then I talked with Herb and Ferdie and Randolph and

Tommy and Roy and George Buffington, and we agreed

that this was a plant if there ever was one and that
I wasn't supposed to know it was to be on the six
percent at all, and it was an experience like Randolph

had when he debated there and they changed the topic

five minutes before the program started. About

fifteen minutes after that conversation, I called her

back and asked her if she had done anything toward

rearranging it, and she said, no, she hadn't, and I

said, "That is fine, because something has just happened,

and I will be tied up all that week.

MR. PAUL: Since that, they have been trying to
call me up. (Laughter)

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H.M.JR: What else.

MR. SULLIVAN: Senator LaFollette is putting your
Cleveland speech in the Congressional Record. I have a
thank-you note for the Governor of Rhode Island.

H.M.JR: Last night - where is Chick - at eleven-

thirty over WJSV, they had a discussion on taxes, both

sides. It was very good.

MR. SCHWARZ: Would you like to get it?
H.M.JR: No.

MR. PAUL: I would like to see it.

H.M.JR: It is the kind of thing that I hope that
this committee that I appointed will do. For instance,

they had what I said, what Eccles has said. Congressman
from Oklahoma said so and so about the sales taxes.
MR. KUHN: Monroney.

MR. FOLEY: Purely irrelevant. (Laughter)

H.M.JR: And so forth and so on. So I think it

is the kind of thing - it really was fairly impartial,

but it showed - because it is a crazy hour to put the
thing on. The voice was very familiar, but I couldn't
recognize it.

MR. SULLIVAN: Wednesday afternoon we had quite a

meeting on this committee that you have just referred

to, and everybody seemed to feel that if this job is

done right, it is just going to be a full time job,

and we wondered about getting Knollie down to see if

he would be willing to take it over. The only objec-

tion to Knollie was that he thought he could probably
set up the machinery and get going on this one, but we
seem to think there should be a more or less permanent
organization that could go after other things other
than just tax exemption.

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-4H.M.JR: Well, we have got two Disney organizations -

three going now.

MR. SULLIVAN: Well, this is a little something

more than just publicity, I think. Anyway, I think

the concensus of the group was that if you approved, I
would try to get Knollie down.

H.M.JR: That is all right, as long as something
is done fast to get it out of the study stage.
MR. SULLIVAN: I will phone him this morning, then.
On the auto use stamps, we have run into a peculiar

problem.

H.M.JR: What did you do, run out of spit. (Laughter)
MR. SULLIVAN: No. Many of the enforcement cars of
not only the Federal Government but state and municipal
governments should have these stamps on if they are not

to be disclosed. I mean, a Secret Service car or a
plain clothes policeman's car in New York City, so we
are getting out an order giving these stamps to those
agencies.

MR. FOLEY: I ran out on mine. I put it up three

times, and three times it fell off, so they put it in
the pocket of the car.

MR. VINER: Transferable.

MR. FOLEY: It is the cheapest job, I think, the
Treasury has ever done. It is perfectly awful.
MR. SULLIVAN: I will answer that one afterward.
MR. WHITE: We will pass that.
H.M.JR: Because you need three hours?

MR. SULLIVAN: No, I don't need three hours.

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H.M.JR: What else.
MR. SULLIVAN: The Commissioner is getting out a
mimeograph to handle such situations as Detroit where

they are having the conversion to military production,
and the people are out of work saying that they will
have to try to collect the tax where they can, but
where this particular situation exists, the Collectors
of Internal Revenue are assured that where reasonable

forbearance is extended to the collection of Federal

tax liabilities, the Collector will back him up. I

mean, it is about as far as we can go, I think, in
telling them to go easy.

H.M.JR: He will have to postpone them.
MR. SULLIVAN: That is right.

H.M.JR: Well, I don't know. Hold that one up.

Has that gone out?

MR. SULLIVAN: No.

H.M.JR: I want to talk about that. Last year
they kept postponing and postponing and postponing. I
want to talk about that.
MR. SULLIVAN: All right. You have a letter from
William Green asking you to support his request that
Social Security taxes be taken up as a part of the tax
program. Now, think that you more or less agreed

with Doughton and George that the tax program should
come first. Randolph says he thinks they made the

statement and you didn't disagree with them, but I
think they believe that you feel that way.
H.M.JR: I think the answer to William Green
is very simple. It is up to the Committee what comes

first.

MR. SULLIVAN: He puts it another way. "May I

ask your support of our request that the Social Security
tax increases be considered at the same time." And

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I think that we just have to tell him that we are

already have had discussions--

H.M.JR: I won't be able to answer that today. I
have got to talk about it.
MR. SULLIVAN: All right. There is a Columbia
Radio Broadcasting System broadcast at one forty-five
on Saturday. They wanted me to talk on that on sales

taxes.

H.M.JR: All right. They mentioned you last night

on the sales taxes.

MR. SULLIVAN: Beg your pardon?

H.M.JR: This man reviewed what you said on the
sales tax. He picked up everything anybody had said

and did it very intelligently.

MR. SULLIVAN: You recall sometime ago Leon Henderson asked for some income tax data, and you thought we

shouldn't give it to him. We have had several conversations with them, and they think that if they get
just the transfer cards, that will answer their problem.
I think they have a very good case in saying that they
really have got to have those.
H.M.JR: What are the transfer cards?
MR. SULLIVAN: It contains the basic information

that is gathered from the returns, but the detailed
information on the returns, of course, isn't disclosed

here.

H.M.JR: I think that would be all right.
MR. SULLIVAN: All right, sir, then I will get

that ready.

H.M.JR: What else?

MR. SULLIVAN: That is all except-H.M.JR: Go ahead.

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would like to see you about today.

H.M.JR: Well, see how we get along. Did you

speak to Lausche?

MR. SULLIVAN: Yes, I talked with him yesterday
morning, and he said, "I am in complete accord with

the principle, and the reason I wasn't able to call

you yesterday is because we have got a seventeen and

a half million dollar deal on the sale of municipal
railroads here, and I have got to discuss this with
my
cabinet, but I am sure I can call you back this
afternoon.
He didn't do it.

H.M.JR: How many times have you talked to him?
MR. SULLIVAN: Yesterday? Once.

H.M.JR: Altogether.
MR. SULLIVAN: Three times.

H.M.JR: Did you tell him about your call to Tobin?
MR. SULLIVAN: No, he hadn't heard about it. It
was the railroad deal that was holding him up.
H.M.JR: Well, anyway, we will see how we get
along.

MR. SULLIVAN: All right.

H.M.JR: I have sent for Elmer Irey, and I am
directing him to act under me, directly responsible to

me, on this New York alcohol case. I want a complete

investigation on that starting with Berkshire right
straight down through the line. I am just telling you
in here.

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MR. GASTON: Yes.

H.M.JR: I am going to have the investigation made

directly under me. I can't understand it.

MR. SULLIVAN: They have been working on this for

two years.

H.M.JR: Well, I can't understand it, but I want
to start with Berkshire and go right straight down.
MR. GASTON: It is our own men, of course, that
have made that investigation.

H.M.JR: I know, but on a thing like that, there

are so many people involved, it seems impossible that
somebody somewhere, some supervisor, up and down the

line wouldn't know about it.
it.

MR. SULLIVAN: The assistant supervisor was in on

H.M.JR: Well, then, his boss. Somebody has
fallen
down on his job, and I want to know who that
is.
MR. PAUL: Nothing this morning.
MR. BUFFINGTON: Yesterday I had a call from Mr.

Fulton, president of the Outdoor Advertising Association, assuring us that the sixteen thousand boards
will be posted on or before February 15, which will
give us a full month of showing.
Might I have a few minutes to discuss that Harford Powel letter and some of this other publicity?

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H.M.JR: Possibly, but I have got to start right
after this meeting with the Secretary of State at ten
thirty on this Chinese question. We will see how long

that lasts. I don't know. We will see. I will be in

tomorrow morning.

MR. BUFFINGTON: All right.

H.M.JR: If anybody doesn't catch me today, I will

be in tomorrow morning.

MR. BUFFINGTON: That is all.
MR. BLOUGH: Nothing this morning.
Jake?

H.M.JR: Are you going to have something for me today,

MR. VINER: Yes. I prefer it this afternoon.
H.M.JR: Well, either this - are you going to be

here tomorrow?.

MR. VINER: Surely. I am here every day (laughter).

What a question.

H.M.JR: If I don't get it this afternoon -MR. VINER: Sundays, too.

H.M.JR: If I don't get it this afternoon, I will

get it tomorrow. Are you here tomorrow, Peter?

MR. ODEGARD: I will be here tomorrow morning.
H.M.JR: George?

MR. HAAS: Here is that table we have ready for you.

H.M.JR: This is the number of firms? I see.

That is a jump-off date, is it? Harold, this affects

you particularly. On January 10 five hundred persons

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ninety-two, and one week later, four thousand fortythree. It went from forty-four to fifty-five per cent.
And a hundred to five hundred went from thirteen to
twenty-two per cent. Have you seen this?
MR. GRAVES: Yes, George showed it to me.

H.M.JR: So that is beginning to come. I want
to study that.
MR. HAAS: Then I made one on - I thought we had

better put down all the information we had. Here is
the total number of firms. There are the two tables

you have got there, the nine thousand. These are under
hundred, you see. It makes sixteen thousand altogether.
Down here the employees of the firms particularly, and
it doesn't mean that all those employees participate,
but they are members of these firms, so the exposed
a

number of employees is fifteen million out of thirtyfour.

H.M.JR: I see.
MR. HAAS: Mr. Swope thinks this could be discontinued.
It is in good shape, you know, on Procurement.

H.M.JR: Let it go. Is much of your staff working
on statistics for the English?
MR. HAAS: No, that is all over.
H.M.JR: Are you working on statistics for anybody
else outside the Treasury?
MR. HAAS: No, sir.
H.M.JR: Anything else, George?

MR. HAAS: That is all.
H.M.JR: Chick?

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MR. SCHWARZ: Nothing.

H.M.JR: Harry?

MR. WHITE: Phillips was here, but what he had to

say can wait until you are ready to take up the British
situation, unless it is going to be too long delayed.
He is concerned about getting an answer from the President on that seven hundred million dollars

H.M.JR: If he gets it in a month, he is lucky.
because if the answer is one way
or the other, he wants to take some action on the new
MR. WHITE:

proposed legislation of the Lend-Lease bill which is

going to exclude the possibility of taking care of that
amount under Lend-Lease as presently written.

H.M.JR: There was a beautiful leak on this meeting
in my office with Stettinius and what happened - and
yesterday Perlmeter, when I said, "Well, somebody outside

must have helped you," Perlmeter said "No, it was somebody

right in the Treasury who gave me all the information.

That means somebody in the Treasury told Perlmeter what
went on when Stettinius was here, and what they came to
see about, because he had the whole thing. You were on

an airplane, so you weren't here.

MR. WHITE: I didn't even see him. I will find out
in my division.
H.M.JR: Somebody saw Perlmeter and talked.

MR. WHITE: Did persons in my division know about

it? Who was here on it?
H.M.JR: Southard.

MR. WHITE: I will ask. I would be extremely

surprised if anybody would do it, but I will inquire.
H.M.JR: I am not accusing anybody, but Perlmeter
made the flat statement he got the information from the
Treasury.

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MR. SCHWARZ: A Treasury official, he said.

H.M.JR: Treasury official. I am not accusing
anybody, but I am just passing it along for what it is

worth. What else, Harry?

MR. WHITE: Well, I will re-raise that question

whenever you are ready to take it up.

first. H.M.JR: Let's get the Chinese thing out of the way
MR. WHITE: The other things can all wait.
H.M.JR: Where is my Chinese time-table?

MR. WHITE: I have it here.
MR. VINER: Harry, what about war risk?

H.M.JR: Well, I am not going to -MR. WHITE: We wanted to clear that with Bell first.

He will be in at ten o'clock.

H.M.JR: I am not going to do that before I go
to the State Department. Right after this meeting I

want to go over that time-table with you. Is that it?
MR. WHITE: Yes.

H.M.JR: Harold, how are things up in New York?
MR. GRAVES: Very good. I think maybe you would

like me some time to tell you in detail about them.
H.M.JR: Are they better?
MR. GRAVES: Very good.

H.M.JR: Harold, give me twenty-four hour service
on this thing, will you please? That means I want an
answer tomorrow.

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H.M.JR: No. Really?
MR. GRAVES: There are forty-five such companies

that have been awarded this "E" by the Navy. I wasn't

here yesterday. I haven't gotten the list of those
companies yet.

H.M.JR: Get the list and check off those -MR. GRAVES: Yes.

H.M.JR: When will I get it? Tomorrow, maybe?

MR. GRAVES: I will have that tomorrow, yes. At
your convenience I will tell you about New York. It
is very good.

H.M.JR: All right. Ferdie?
MR. KUHN: The Canadian Minister asked some time

ago whether you would speak on the radio to help them
in their Victory Loan campaign, beginning in March.

They now say that they would be willing to have it on
a record so that it could be made during February
any time at your convenience, and I think it is a swell
opportunity.

H.M.JR: Why should I talk for the Canadians?

MR. KUHN: Well, they have asked it, and I think

that it is - it gives you a chance to say some things that

you wouldn't get a chance to say otherwise.

H.M.JR: It doesn't appeal to me.
MR. KUHN: Not at all?
H.M.JR: No. Why should I go to Canada or england
and talk to them about raising money?

MR. WHITE: I don't think you should.

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H.M.JR: What?

MR. WHITE: I don't think you should. Does any-

body else think he should?

MR. SULLIVAN: Well, how would we like it if Sir

Frederick Phillips talked on it here?

MR. KUHN: I don't think that is quite the same.
MR. SULLIVAN: I don't know, the Canadians are

pretty touchy. If they have asked for it themselves I
think they have made a mistake in asking for it.

VR. KUHN: They have asked for it, and they have

heard the Secretary on the air. The radio is inter-

changeable between the two countries and they know about
our bond campaign, just as we know about theirs.

H.V.JR: I will lend them Donald Duck.

MR. WHITE: Think they will be able to tell the
difference? (Laughter).
MR. SULLIVAN: Back to South America for Harry
(laughter).
MR. KUHN: Secretary Knox admires your showmanship

but thinks it is a bad idea to have movie people down
in the Nevy Yard. He doesn't want to have them. He
would much prefer to have it here, so they are not
going to have movies at all.

H.M.JR: Couldn't they put it in a little spot?
MR. KUHN: They said they would have to shut down

the work and so on, and he made all kinds of difficulties

about it.

H.M.JR: All right.
MR. KUHN: It is their show.

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H.M.JR: It is their show.
MR. KUHN: So we will have it here.

H.M.JR: hat is all right.
MR. KUHN: I have a letter that can be signed.
H.M.JR: Do you suppose I can have that tomorrow,
what I am going to say next Monday?

MR. KUHN: Yes, I will do it. It is only a minute

and a half.

H.M.JR: Could I have it tomorrow?
MR. KUHN: Sure. That letter has been approved by
Harold Graves. We have already sent them telegrams

on that.

H.M.JR: Why do I send this?
MR. KUHN: Because we have sent telegrams to
various papers.

H.M.JR: Well, do you know about Chick's complaint

from the Chicago Sun about Hearst?
MR. KUHN: No.

H.M.JR: Well, show this to Chick because the
Chicago Sun -MR. SCHWARZ: Chicago Times.

H.M.JR: They sent a man in here and claimed that

Hearst was not playing the game. I will sign it, but
check with Chick.

MR. SCHWARZ: That was my call the other night.

H.M.JR: This is particularly the Chicago American.

I was just going to say, next time couldn't they put

Marion Davies and me?

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MR. KUHN: I had a talk with the Disney people
yesterday afternoon and they said that your idea
is coming along wonderfully, and that the best of
the whole series is the business men, worked up better
than any others. The one in which they have the most

material ready is the child. That is, they have sketches
of the children. They are very steamed up about it,
and wanted you to know about it.

H.M.JR: You didn't let me know about Monday.

MR. KUHN: Oh, I thought I had.
H.M.JR: Is the answer "Yes"?
MR. KUHN: Yes, sir.
H.M.JR: You know a bout Monday night?

MR. GRAVES: Yes. I was going to say that I talked
to Mr. Disney and told him about this poster thing. He
will have the things that you asked for Monday night.
H.M.JR: And MacLeish and Lowell Mellett will be
there.

MRS. KLOTZ: Did they accept?

H.M.JR: Well, I sat next to MacLeish last night.
He said, "Sure". If you don't hear from Mrs. MacLeish

I think they will be here.

MRS. KLOTZ: Well, I will call her.
H.M.JR: She doesn't get up until noon.
MRS. KLOTZ: Well, whenever you call she is at the

Red Cross or in bed.

H.M.JR: I think I would call up Mr. MacLeish's
office.
MRS. KLOTZ: I have.

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H.M.JR: She never gets up until noon.
MRS. KLOTZ: Wonderful. I am for Mrs. MacLeish.

H.M.JR: I think she is more of a singer.
MRS. KLOTZ: So am I.

MR. KUHN: I have nothing more.

MR. FOLEY: You would do anything to stay in bed
until noon.
MR. THOMPSON: I think Ferdie will probably want

to tell you about this stamp.

MR. KUHN: I took that up with them as you asked
and they all approved it. They saw no reason why that

shouldn't be done. hat isn't the same as calling them

Victory Bonds.

H.M.JR: Peter, are you on that?
MR. ODEGARD: We suggested that a long time ago

(laughter).

H.M.JR: You and Roosevelt dreamed it, did you?

MR. ODEGARD: Mr. Secretary, right after Pearl
Harbor, when all these things began to pour in, Ferdie
and I talked about this, and we suggested this change
on the copy then, because most of these criticisms

were directed at the nature of the copy, rather than the
bond. Most of the people that made the criticisms wouldn't
know what the bond says on it, anyway.

H.M.JR: O.K. But put in the word "and".
MR. THOMPSON: Yes.

H.M.JR: All right. What else?
MR. THOMPSON: Here is a memorandum for your files

of yesterday's meeting. I have indicated there that the

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- 18 next meeting will be Wednesday. Fitzgerald thought
it was Tuesday.

H.M.JR: I didn't tell- Fitz anything. When you go
out, tell him.
MR. THOMPSON: That is all.

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January 30, 1942.
FOR THE SECRETARY'S FILES

Meeting in Secretary Hull's Office
January 30, 1942
10:30 A. M.
Present:

Secretary Hull
Secretary Morgenthau

Dr. Viner
Mr. White

Later Joined By:

Mr. Berle
Mr. Hornbeck
Mr. Hamilton
Mr. Feis

HOW

The meeting had been arranged by Secretary Morgenthau over the
telephone the previous day.

Secretary Hull begen by a brief resume of the For Eastern military
scene. Secretary Hull said that as far back as last Spring he had
pointed out to the Army and Navy officials that in the event of hostilittes with Japan, that Janan and Germany between them might likely take
over the South Sea Area and North Africa, and thereby create very dif-

ficult problems for the United States in the Atlantic. He said that
the Army and Navy officials, however, did not think it likely at that

time that Japan would be able to conquer the numerous bases in that area

of the Pacific. Secretary Hull went on to say that for meny months erior
to the outbreak of hostilities with Jacan, he had been strongly urged by
General Marshall and by the heads of the Army and Navy (and by the

President)? to do everything in his power to prevent outbreak of hosti-

lities with Janan because the Army and Navy were not adequately prepared.

He said that the situation in the Far East was critical and he appeared
to be rather pessimistic as to developments there in the near future.
He also stated that Russia was very displeased with the British, so much
SC that it was necessary for Eden to go there and attempt to placate
them. The Russians were also disappointed at what the Russians claimed
to be a small amount of aid they were getting from the United States.

He said that Russia was not to be trusted and there is no telling what
would happen if with increasing Japanese victories China felt she could
not look to Britain and the United States for substantial help.

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should have some of his staff in during the ensuing discussion of
possible aid to China. Secretary Morgenthau replied that anybody
Secretary Hull wished to have in would be all right with him.
Secretary Hull thereupon sent for the above-named from the State
Department.

Secretary Hull recounted the proposed methods of aid to China

which Secretary Morgenthau had outlined in his letter of the previous
day. He then asked his own staff to comment on what they thought
would be the reaction in China if Singapore fell. Hornbeck replied
that he thought the effect would be bad; that the Japanese would make
most of the boast that they had been able to demolish the strongest
of British bases. The Japanese would say that the Chinese would do
well to come to terms and join them in the general struggle against
domination by the white race, that numerous groups within China would
likewise attempt to press the Generalissimo to make terms with Japan
since all avenues of supply to China will have been closed.

Mr. Hamilton likewise felt that the loss of Singapore would have

a bad effect on Chinese morale.

Secretary Hull said that he assumed there was agreement that

under the circumstances financial aid to China was urgent. Secretary
Morgenthau replied that he had set forth his position clearly in the
letter to Secretary Hull of the previous day.
Secretary Hull asked for opinions as to which of the several
methods suggested by the Treasury would be the best medium for giving

help. He said he himself was not interested in the method. He said
that should be the Treasury's business. He was solely interested in

seeing that China did get aid in the present critical situation.

Mr. Hornbeck stated that he thought the ideal method of helping
would be a Congressional statute providing for an extension of financial aid to China. He said that might, however, cause undue delay.
He was not certain that legislation was the most practical method of
approaching the problem. He stated that he did not think the matter

was so urgent or acute that a matter of days were critical, but that
if it were to take several weeks for Congress to pass such legislation,
it would be too late. If legislation could be passed in a few days
he favored legislation.

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-3Mr. Hornbeck went on to say that he thought that the sum should
be $500 million instead of the $300 million which Secretary Hull had
indicated in his letter to Secretary Morgenthau. Mr. Hornbeck thought
that a reduction in the portion which the United States was prepared
to give to $300 million would be too great a reduction from the sum
which Chiang-Kai-Shek was asking. He felt Chiang-Kai-Shek should be
given what he asked for, namely $500 million from the United States.
Secretary Morgenthau agreed with Hornbeck, as did the others, and it
was therefore decided that the sum which they would recommend would
be $500 million.

Secretary Hull stated that he appreciated Secretary Morgenthau's

reluctance to use the stabilization fund for such purposes. Mr. Berle
stated that he likewise felt Secretary Morgenthau was correct in giving last preference to use of the stabilization fund in this particular
instance since, Mr. Berle went on to say, the use of stabilization for
that purpose seemed to be clearly outside the purpose for which the
fund had been created.

Secretary Hull said he presumed the matter was up to the President,
and said that in line with Secretary Morgenthau's suggestion in the
letter, that Secretary Hull and Secretary Morgenthau see the President
on the matter. Secretary Morgenthau suggested that Secretary Hull and
himself might stay behind the Cabinet meeting for a few minutes and get
the President's decision on the matter. Then action in the form of an
announcement could be made the following morning. Secretary Hull
agreed, and it was decided that in the meantime a draft of a message
and a bill should be prepared to show the President that afternoon in
the event he agreed that was the way to handle the matter. Secretary
Hull stated that he would like to have the Treasury Department handle
it and State Department would be glad to collaborate.
The meeting was about to be adjourned when Secretary Morgenthau

told Secretary Hull that there was another thing he would like to talk
about with reference to British Lend-Lease. Hornbeck and Hamilton left.
Secretary Morgenthau explained that he had been talking with the Army
and Lend-Lease officials, who had spoken to him with respect to the
operation of Lend-Lease. They had stated that shipping was the important
problem and that it was essential to conserve as much shipping space as

possible for essential war supplies; that, therefore, any supplies

utilized by American troops that could be purchased locally should be
so purchased. Such purchases raised the question as to how they should

be paid for. It was felt that possibly such purchases should be

financed through a "reverse" lend-lease procedure. Secretary Morgenthau
said he did not know how much was being done in the State Department on
that subject, but he would like to have the State Department cooperate

with the Treasury in working on the problem. Secretary Hull said he

would be glad to have his staff do so. Mr. Feis said that Dean Acheson into
was handling British Lend-Lease problems. Dean Acheson was called

the room. He said he would be glad to collaborate with the Treasury

Department working on the problem.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 30, 1942
TO

The Files

FROM Mr. Thompson

A meeting was held at 3:00 p.m. yesterday in Secretary Morgenthau's

office to discuss the policies which should be adopted to govern the
questions of deferments for reserve officers and draftees. Present
at the meeting were: Secretary Morgenthau, Secretary Knox, Under
Secretary of War Patterson, General Hershey, Mr. McReynolds, and

Mr. Thompson.

Secretary Morgenthau stated the problem and expressed the neces-

sity for the adoption of general rules to be followed by all branches

of the Government as a guide in determining whether or not deferments
should be requested in any case. Secretary Knox discussed the needs
of the Navy particularly with reference to men in the Navy yards who
hold commissions in the Army reserves and Under Secretary Patterson
agreed that in these cases where vital need can be shown for the
employee to remain in his present job, deferments probably should be

granted at least temporarily pending efforts to acquire replacements.
Generally, however, it was agreed that any reserve officer who preferred

to remain in his present job rather than to go into the military service
should resign his military commission.

Secretary Knox stated that it was his view that heads of departments cannot duck the responsibility of requesting deferments where
the facts indicate that a man would be more valuable in his present
job than in the military or naval services, but this view was not
concurred in. General Hershey was particularly of the opinion that
deferments for Secret Service agents could be justified.
With respect to draftees, there was general discussion as to
public reaction to deferments and no definite decision was reached
as to what the policy should be although it was agreed that if a
deferment should be granted it should be only after the establishment of a vital need for the person in his present employment. No

conclusion was reached on the general question and at Secretary
Morgenthau's suggestion it was agreed that a further meeting be

held in his office at 3:00 p.m. on Wednesday, February 4. In the

meantime Mr. McReynolds and General Hershey were requested to draft

regulations to govern policies to be followed in all departments and
agencies with a view to uniformity of action in deferment cases.

for

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January 30, 1942
4:00 p.m.

AID TO CHINA

Present:

Mr. Viner
Mr. White

Mrs. Klotz

Mr. Foley

H.M.JR: That thing should have been ready at a
quarter of two, instead of holding me up an hour.
I mean, you (Foley) were supposed to be ready at a quar-

ter of one and then you held it back, and I sat there

and they kept talking about the man, and I was on pins
and needles for one hour. I mean, I wanted to see
you alone.

MR. FOLEY: Well, that is all right.
H.M.JR: But anyway, for another time, don't do that

to me because the man's name came up two or three times
and I never knew when the President was going to ask

for it.

MR. FOLEY: Well, it was good enough. I just wanted

to tie it up a little bit.

H.M.JR: Well, just for the future.
MR. FOLEY: O.K.

H.M.JR: This is what happened. Evidently T.V.
Soong WAS in to see the President this morning and

brought up the question of a loan. I gathered he gave
the impression I was dragging my feet, and the President

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-2must have called up Hull on the wire and asked him

about it. I mean, this is all surmise. And Hull told

him that I had been over there this morning, and that
we would take it up this afternoon. When I came in

to Cabinet I said to Hull, "Have you seen our memorandum

and joint resolution?" He said, "No," and I said,
"Well, here is the original. I gave him the original.

Then I said, "Well, have you seen your own draft?"

He said, "Oh, no, no." I said, "What your boys did on
the message?" He said, "No, I have been too busy. I
haven't seen it." So he said he hadn't seen that. So
it came up and the President said, "Well, they don't
want us to pay their army. I don't know whether he said
it then or later. "Because they would have two kinds
of currency." So he said, "Why can't we buy the yuan?"
And then I said, "Let's Hull and you and I sit down after
Cabinet together," so he said, "Fine." But he didn't
do what he usually does, take us into his office. He
did it with everybody buzzing around and talking at the
top of their voices. We had just nicely started on
the thing, you see. So Hull kept saying, "Where is
Jesse, where is Jesse?" So he pulled Jesse in.

Well, Jesse was waiting just about three feet
away from Hull and he dived right between Hull and the
President. It really was funny. I mean, whenever there

is anything like that up there, Jesse just sort of

crowds himself, sort of leans over on them so he gets

in on it. So he dives right in, what is it, what is it,

you know.

So they talked. It was going all right, but Hull -

I mean, at the last minute - he could have brought

Jesse in at any time in the last month. At the last

minute he brings him in and Jesse, smelling some new
business, he was only two feet behind. The reason

that Hull couldn't see him was that he was leaning

right over Hull. hat is the only reason he couldn't
see him. So he barges his chair right between Hull
and the President, and I tried to explain the thing
just the way we said this morning, and Hull never

said anything. I said, "Well, that is the way it was
in your office, wasn't it, Cordell?" He said, "Yes, yes,

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suppose so." So the President listened, and of course

there was all this talking going on around. It was

the most unfavorable circumstances that I ever presented

anything in. Jesse said - tried to get in and the President said, "Well, why can't you, Jesse, buy some goods?"
And Jesse - no, Jesse said, "I could lend them some money
against some goods," and the President said, "No, no,

that won't be any good." I said, "Mr. President, you

might just as well do it right out in the open. So thenand then there will be Congressional action, and that is
what Chiang Kai-shek wants. We tried the other and

it didn't work. That is what he wants. He wants the

prestige of a loan backed by Congress to give him face
opposite the Japanese." So then Jesse said, "Well,

wouldn't it be just as good if it was from the President?"
Well, of course there was only one answer I could say.
That was "Yes." So the President said, "Well, explore

it, Jesse, and if you don't find there is a way that

you can do it, then Hull, Jones, and Morgenthau should
go up on the Hill together Monday and see the leaders.
Well, I never saw anything torpedoed nicer or quicker

than the way Hull did it.

Now, Jesse knows nothing about it. What I thought
I would do is, because I would like to see the Chinese

get this thing, I thought I would call up Berle and tell
him just what happened and tell him I want to see them

get this loan and this is what the President said and

that Jones knows nothing about it and Mr. Hull brought

him in, so it is his responsibility, but I am ready to

do anything. But they will have to do something over
there, see. And tell him just what happened. He is
Assistant Secretary of State and has been handling this.

What do you boys think? It is either Berle or

Hornbeck.

MR. WHITE: It is a little bit strange for you to
tell Berle. I think it might be all right for somebody
else to tell Berle.
H.M.JR: No, I would rather tell him. "This is what

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-4happened. Now, I would like to see the Chinese get

this loan. I am very anxious to do it. Mr. Hull has
brought Jones in, and will you please follow through

on it and if there is anything that we can do, let me

know."

MR. VINER: Is it Berle?
MR. FOLEY: Yes.

MR. WHITE: Would it be - the only thing, it is a

little peculiar.

H.M.JR: The whole thing was peculiar.
MR. WHITE: Hull was there.

H.M.JR: Hull won't do anything about it. I
don't care what they think. It is no more peculiar than

the way Hull runs his Department or after one month's
negotiations, when we sit down at the last minute, that
he should bring Jesse Jones in. He could have brought

him in any time. In one breath he tells us, "This is

my business, I have got to work out the details," and

the next thing, he brings - now, all of that, all the
personnel - I don't care. We will do the way we always
do. I will wave it all aside to get Chiang Kai-shek
what he wants. A personal affront, anything like that,
that is all waved to one side.
MR. WHITE: You might get Berle and Currie to take

the edge off that, and it would be more effective, too.
Berle.

H.M.JR: Well, you can tell Currie, and let me tell

MR. WHITE: Well, that isn't quite what I had in
mind. I mean, you could give it a push from both,
and it would be logical for you to turn to Currie to
follow up the President's thinking, because he is the
President's Administrative Assistant. It is Friday now.
Something ought to be done. I don't understand Hull.

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-5I don't understand why - why did he handle it that way?
H.M.JR: Just his animosity personally for me.
I don't care. Jones can take it. I made up my mind

the Chinese should have it. Let me do it. My instinct

is all right on this thing. Of course it is a funny

piece of business, but everything in Washington is.
The
only wayYes.
they can't lick me is, do I want to help
the Chinese?

MR. VINER: Don't indicate to Berle that you feel
aggrieved in any way. Go slow at first, at least.

H.M.JR: I don't feel aggrieved. I am used to it.

It is Washington, and it is the way they do business
here. Now, If I didn't want the Chinese to get anything

I would just sit tight and do nothing, but I do want
the Chinese to get something, so I am going to call up
Berle and tell him that.
Now, these two papers here, this is all I have.
I have this joint resolution and this thing from the
State Department. The joint resolution is prepared -MR. WHITE: Here.

H.M.JR: And the original is in the hands of Mr.

Hull. I have a copy of the State Department memo -MR. VINER: That is the message.

MR. FOLEY: That is the message to support the

legislation.

H.M.JR: All of these things get down to the question, I want to help the Chinese.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with

Mr. Berle as follows:)

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January 30, 1942
4:10 p.m.
HMJr:

Adolf

Hello.

Berle:

Yes, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

This is Henry.

B:

Yes, Henry.

HMJr:

Are you alone?

B:

I am, yes.

HMJr:

Well, look, let me tell you what happened at

B:

Yes.

HMJr:

Cabinet and after, see?

I brought this question up - no, let's get the
thing - no, that isn't what happened. The

President brought up the question for the loan
to the Chinese, and it seemed that T. V. Soong
was to have went to see the President today.
I don't know about what, but he saw him this
morning, see?
B:

Yes.

HMJr:

Maybe you know about it.

B:

No, I don't.

HMJr:

What?

B:

No, I don't know what he talked about.

HMJr:

B:

Well, 80 - and then evidently he brought up the
question of the loan, and I gather from what the
President said at Cabinet, that the President must
have called up Mr. Hull and asked him where it
stood, and Hull told him that I'd been over there
this morning and we were going to take it up at
Cabinet. But Soong sort of must have given the
President the impression that the thing wasn't
going too well, you see?

That's wholly unfair to you, sir.

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HMJr:

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It is, because you saw the letter from Soong to

me, didn't you?

B:

Yes, I did.

HMJr:

And my answer.

B:

of course.

HMJr:

But that's neither here nor there. I'm used to

B:

(Laughs) Well, we all are, I think.

HMJr:

What's that?

B:

So are we all, I think.

HMJr:

that.

That's right. Now, then we stayed behind. Then
I asked couldn't I see the President after Cabinet
with Mr. Hull to discuss the Chinese matter, and

the President said, "Fine". But he did it with
most the Cabinet around talking very loudly, which
it was about the worst possible place to bring it
up.

B:

Yes.

HMJr:

So I started talking, and we were about just nicely
started when Mr. Hull said, "Where's Jesse Jones?

I want him to sit in on this thing.' Well, Jesse

was just behind Cordell, waiting. (Laughs)
B:

HMJr:

B:

HMJr:

(Laughs)

So the only reason he couldn't see him was because
he was right behind Hull, leaning over him.
(Laughs)

So Jesse pulled up his chair between the President
and Hull and sat down. And the President asked
Jesse whether he couldn't do something about it,
and Jesse said, "Well, I could make them a loan
against future purchases." And the President said,
"No, that would be too slow." So the President

said, "Well, couldn't we buy fifty million a month

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from them?" Of yuans, you see.
B:

HMJr:

Yes.

And - he didn't say fifty a month, he said, "every
80 often buy fifty million dollars worth of yuans."
So I said, "Well, Mr. President, two things. I'm
impressed by what the State Department and the War
Department tell me, that this is urgent; I'm for
it, and this is something to build up Chiang Kaishek vis-a-vis the Japanese; and also, the State
Department says we mustn't do it in a way that

T. V. Soong will get any credit out of it." And

I said, "I'm impressed by that."

Now, I said, "We've explored all this thing for
months, and whichever way we do it we're going to
have to talk to Congress about it, and it's a
question of your seeing the leaders."

Well, Jesse said, "Well, let me look into it. Let
me look into it. Maybe I can do something." So
the President said, "Well, if you can't, Jesse, I
want Hull, Jones, and Morgenthau - the three of you to go up on the Hill together." Hello.
B:

HMJr:

Yes.

Now, the purpose of my calling you is this. I'd
like to see the Chinese get it. I'm convinced
that for political and military reasons they should
have it; and I thought if you knew what has happened,
you'd be helpful in seeing that the thing didn't
fall between three departments now.

B:

HMJr:
B:

HMJr:
B:

I shall be very glad to, Mr. Secretary.
And I'm ready to do anything to help.
Well, thank you very much. What I will do, if I
may, after checking with the Chief, will be to with Mr. Hull, I mean
Yes.

will be to endeavor to see that the decision

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arrives out of the other department right away
quick;
that 18, that they don't spend an awful
lot
of time
HMJr:
B:

Well.....
Personally, I think the straight way to do it
is to go straight to bat and ask them for it
up there.

HMJr:

Well, the President said - he said, "I think in
the end," he said, "that _" he listened to me,
you see. And he said, "I think that it's popular
to help the Chinese", and he said, "maybe you can
get it through in a couple of days.

B:

I think you probably could, don't you?

HMJr:

I'm sure that we can.

B:

So am I.

HMJr:

B:

HMJr:

But if you're going to do some horse trading about
it, and if Jones is going to make a horse deal out

of this thing, it'11 be another month.
Well, this is no horse dealing job as I see it.

It isn't a banking job. This is a straight political,

military proposition; and it must be done in the

way, I'm convinced now, that'11 leave a good taste
in the mouth of the Generalissimo.

B:

HMJr:

Well, I thought from time to time absolutely this
morning when you said, "If we do it at all, the
thing to do is to do it handsomely."
That's right.

B:

(Unintelligible)

HMJr:

Well

B:

I privately am sorry that your other idea didn't
go through. All the fellows here seemed to think

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that it probably wouldn't, but I was sorry it

didn't, because I thought that would take us
right out.
HMJr:

You mean the soldiers.

B:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Well

B:

HMJr:

B:

But there's no use crying over spilt milk.
Well, the President liked it, Mr. Churchill
liked it, Lauch Currie liked it, but it didn't
work, so that's all we can do.
We were skeptical as to whether the - our friend
across the sea would like it, but that was our
only fear, and that, unfortunately, was justified.

HMJr:

You mean the Generalissimo.

B:

Yeah. We kept our hands rigidly off, of course.

HMJr:

Well, he didn't like it, and - I mean, evidently I don' know how T. V. Soong got in to see the

President.
B:

I don't either.

HMJr:

Somebody must have made the appointment and

B:

Well, that, so far as I know, was not done here.

I think that he just went in on his own.

HMJr:

Well, he never has before. Somebody must have -

anyway, he got in to see the President. You've
got the whole story, and I know that you people
over there are anxious - and what I was fearful

of if I didn't call you, it would just fall
between three departments.

B:

Well, we will endeavor to see that it doesn't
fall, certainly, between this and the other two,
and endeavor to report back to you as rapidly
as the decks can be cleared.

-6HMJr:

Right. And remember that the President said
that the three of us should go up on the Hill.
Those were his instructions.

B:

Right.

HMJr:

And - Monday, he said.

B:

Monday.

HMJr:

That's what he said.

B:

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Well, all right.

HMJr:

Now, I'm ready to do anything to help, and.....

B:

Well, 80 are we.

HMJr:

B:

if you'll let me know just personally, because I'11 appreciate it.
I'11 do that with pleasure. Thank you very much,

Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:

Thank you.

B:

Good-bye, Henry.

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H.M.JR: That is all right, isn't it?
MR. VINER: Fine. Perfectly all right.
H.M.JR: What?
MR. VINER: Sure.

H.M.JR: I mean, he will go in and he will stir it
up. You notice he said, "None of us, we stood by and did
nothing, but we didn't think it would work"? I told
Berle, I said, "Now, don't anybody over there send any
cables messing this thing up now, but I would be gla a
if you (White) would say the same thing to Lauch Currie.

MR. WHITE: I will do that.
H.M.JR: And ask Lauch whether he got T. V. Soong

in there to see the President.

MR. WHITE: I will find out.
H.M.JR: I am satisfied, aren't you?
MR. VINER: Yes.

H.M.JR: I me an, Berle sounded all right.
MR. FOLEY: Yes.

MR. WHITE: He is the most eager of the lot.

H.M.JR: That is all right. I have decided I want

to do it. All right, let's get it done. Now, the fact
that at the last second Hull brings in Jones - that is

his method of doing things. He could have brought Jones
in at any time.
MR. WHITE: When he speaks of your going up on the
Hill Monday, does he mean to see -MR. VINER: The leaders.

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-7MR. WHITE: The leaders?
H.M.JR: Yes.

MR. WHITE: And who presumably is going to arrange

that? who is going to take the responsibility for
carrying this on?

H.M.JR: Well, we have needled him today. Berle

will call up tomorrow. You call up Lauch tonight and
needle him, and maybe we can get it back so when the

President sees the leaders Monday - that is the time

to do it. The President should do it, you see. But

I will be here in the morning and we can get word to
the Vice-President, maybe, and get this - but you get
Lauch busy, will you?
MR. WHITE: I will do that.
MR. VINER: Did the President look at the drafts
at all?

H.M.JR: Didn't look at anything. I have never
seen people so rude. Here the President is trying
to listen and everybody is talking around at the top
of their voices, and the President could just look up

and frown, and everybody would stop talking. He listened

to me, but Hull sits there. In his own office Hull
gives you a history of what he did on the Japanese and
how he told this personally that all this is going to

happen, and I done know how you people felt. You notice
he said, "Some day when you are on a vacation, I want to

tell it all to you." But then this forecast, I just

had to come back and just pull myself together and just
say, "Well, being a historian doesn't make history.

That is very good, Mrs. Klotz. Put it down. And that is

what he was doing. He was being a historian, but he

wasn't making history He was narrating. And I had to

come back and pull myself together so that I could get
my chin up again, instead of having it down dragging the
basement the way he was. He was terrible. I don't know

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what it did to you fellows, but what he did to me was
just wicked. Didn't you feel that way?
MR. VINER: Oh, it was very pessimistic, but it may

be realistic. That I can't say.

H.M.JR: Granted, but that doesn't help win the war.

If you listen to a thing like that all day long with a

man's hands the color of pale yellow parchment, and shaking
and any time he could have taken this thing and said,

"I want this thing done, and then wait until the last

minute and then bring Jesse Jones in to torpedo it.
Wasn't it terribly depressing?

MR. WHITE: I thought ninety per cent of it was

hindsight. If he felt all that certainty about the

importance of maintaining Chinese independence, there
were a great many things that could have been done last
spring and summer, which was six months before the outbreak of the Japanese war.

H.M.JR: What has he ever done to help hina?

MR. WHITE: He took a trip once and let the twenty-

five million dollar loan go through.

H.M.JR: While he was on the high seas.
MR. WHITE: No, I don't think he has ever done
anything.

H.M.JR: Well, thank God I have got belief in this
country and our people and that we will keep fighting

until I have got no breath left. If I listen to that

fellow - it was terrible. I don't know whether he did
it to you fellows, but I came out of there just as

though a steam roller had gone over me, and that I could

take it and laugh and joke about what he did to me fif-

teen minutes ago --

MR. WHITE: It doesn't make sense.

H.M.JR: Here is something down your alley, Foley.

This is just a very mild thing. That made me awfully
nervous, about Batt. I was afraid the President would

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-9turn and say, "where is this, Henry?"
MRS. KLOTZ: I think you said to send it over by
three o'clock.

H.M.JR: Well, I did, but -MR. FOLEY: The memorandum was all right as it was.

What I did was to re-write the second page to tell who

General Monnet was, which I thought you wanted me to do,

and then I tied up on the third page by saying, "Here
these two men had voting trusts. 11 It just made it

a little clearer, that is all.

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TO:

Nell

168

is is a copy of the Joint Resolution
which was given to the Secretary last
night.

It was initialed by Messrs.
Bernard (LJB)

Bernstein (BB)
Foley (EHFJR)

Viner (JV)
White (HDW)

MR. FOLEY

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169 1/30/42

JOINT RESOLUTION

To authorize the President of the
United States to render financial
aid to China, and for other purposes.
WHEREAS China has for more than four years valiantly

resisted the forces of Japanese aggression; and
WHEREAS financial and economic aid to China will

increase her ability to oppose the forces of agression; and
WHEREAS the defense of China is vital to the defense of

the United States: Therefore be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives

of the United States in Congress assembled, That the President

is hereby authorized, on behalf of the United States, to loan

or extend credit or give other financial aid to China in an
amount not to exceed in the aggregate $500,000,000 at such

time or times and upon such terms and conditions as the

President shall deem in the interest of the United States.
Sec. 2. The authority herein granted shall be in
addition to any other authority provided by law.
Sec. 3. There is hereby appropriated out of any money
in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such sum or sums
not to exceed $500,000,000 as may be necessary to carry out

the provisions of this Joint Resolution.

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170

Draft of Presidential message to Congress
prepared by State Department.

(Two copies were furnished to Treasury by
Mr. Hornbeck, one of which the Secretary
gave to Secretary Jones.)

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CONFIDENTIAL
January 30, 1942

There have been brought to the attention of this
Government, by responsible officials both of this Government and of the Government of China, reports on the

subject of China's war effort and the situation in China
which point to the existence of a practical need for an
extension to China of economic assistance financial in
character.

This country has during recent years afforded
assistance to the Chinese Government by means of credits,

loans and, under Lend-Lease authority, materials. The
amount of assistance thus efforded, although not large in
particular or in aggregate amounts, has been of obviously
substantial benefit to China in her operations of armed
resistance to a movement of aggression launched and

carried on against her. It therefore has helped toward
carrying out the policies in which this country believes
as world policies. It has been R contribution on our
part toward holding back the tide of conquest which we
have long regarded as potentially menacing this country
and which now we clearly perceive to be actually and

gravely Jeoparcizing this country along with all other
countries which desire to live in peace and refuse to
submit to the demands and the attacks of the predatory
nations with whom this country and its powerful associates,
including Chinn, are now at war.

In

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In order to strengthen China's position both as
regards her internal economy and as regards her capacity

in general to function effectively as a co-belligerent
with us in the effort which the United Nations are now
making first to halt the movement of conquest and ultimately to achieve complete victory over those who have

initiated it, this country is, fortunately, in position
to render immediate assistance in the financial field.
It is desired and proposed that the Congress appropriate
a sum of $500,000,000 and authorize granting therefrom of
loans or credits or both to China under agreements to be
entered into by the Treasury Department acting in consultation with the Department of State and with the approval
of the President.
Among the purposes envisaged for the use of this sum

are: to safeguard the position of the Government of China

in relation to China's public finance; to enable the Chinese Government to encourage domestic production of

important commodities, especially those essential to war

effort; to facilitate making by the Chinese Government of
purchases both in the domestic and in foreign markets; to

assist in stabilization and effective control in China of
Chinese currency; and in general to facilitate cooperation
between China and the United States in the common war

effort to which both countries along with others are committed.

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with this aid, the Chinese Government, in its most
valorous and effective combat against Japan, may be

assisted in maintaining the economic activities essential

to the dentiqued effective prosecution of the war. It may
be helped to finance its military effort in China without
so enlarging its issues of paper currency as to create
extreme price increases and price disorder; this is essen-

tial to maintain production, to sustain the necessary
exchange of goods needed for living among the Chinese

people, and to secure adequate supplies for the armed

forces. This aid will make it easier for the Chinese Government to effect necessary revenue measures, and to

regulate the flow of supplies and prices thereof.
In short, this measure of financial assistance is
intended to contribute towards the strengthening within
China of the same framework of economic, financial and
production measures that is being found necessary within

the United States for the pursuit of the war.

SARI 08 NAL
to

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January 30, 1942

Telephone conversation between Mr. White and Sir Frederick on
Friday, January 30, at 4:45 P.M.

Mr. White called Sir Frederick at 4:45 P. M. to return Sir
Frederick's earlier call. Sir Frederick inquired about the China
loan. Mr. White informed him that discussion was going forward

but that there had been no final decision. Mr. White said that

he thought a decision would be reached on Monday and that Sir
Frederick would probably be informed either by the State Department
or by the Treasury.

Concerning the takeCouts, Mr. White said that, so far as he
knew, nothing had been heard from the President. Sir Frederick
said that the Lend-Lease Appropriation Bill had gone to Budget
Director Smith and, lest it become too late, he asked whether he

should call Colonel Oran to get some confirmation of Stettinius
statement that the Army could take over the contracts. Mr. White
said he saw no reason why this should not be done.

Hom

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January 30, 1942.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY'S RECORD

Mr. Jesse Jones telephoned Secretary Morgenthau

at 5:30 P.M. on Friday, January 30, to say that he would
like to call on the Secretary to learn more about the
Chinese matter. Secretary Jones said he would like to
get the "feel of the thing" and asked whether he could
not see Secretary Morgenthau and talk with him about it.
It was arranged that Mr. Jones would call at 10:30
Saturday morning in Secretary Morgenthau's office.

HPW

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Division of Monetary Research 176
Date

To:

2/7/42 .19

Miss Chauncey

In view of the discussions
which are going forward, I don't
think an answer to this letter
is necessary.

H.D.W.

MR. WHITE

Branch 2058 - Room 214

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The Secretary wanted you to note - then
Miss Chauncey is to show to Mr. White.

DWB

is
OFFICE OF LEND-LEASE ADMINISTRATION
FIVE-FIFTEEN 22d STREET NW.
WASHINGTON, D.C.

January 30, 1942

E Stettinius, Jr.
Administrator

Dear Henry:

Thank you for the copy of your letter of January
27 to the President, enclosing the note from the British
Ambassador and the memoranium from you to the Chancellor

of the Exchequer.

As I mentioned to you at our conference in your
office on Tuesday of this week, I understand that the War
Department is willing and has or will request the necessary funds from Congress to take over British contracts
for munitions placed before the Lend-Lease Act was passed.
There is still some doubt, however, as to whether
the War Department ought to or is making provision for

taking over facilities contracts as contrasted with supply

contracts. Since the War Department is, now asking Congress

for all funds for munitions to be supplied to Britain, and
since the facilities in question are those located in the
United States, it would seem to me that the question of

taking over British facilities contracts should be put up
to the War Department.

If I can be of any further assistance, please feel
free to call upon me.
Sincerely,

FORDEFENSE

-

BUY
UNITED
STATES

SAVINGS

BONDS

The Honorable

VII 10 it

lovst

The Secretary

of

the Treasury

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

its

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

JAN 30 1942

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Foley

Pehle learned from Stopford that a representative of the Swiss branch of a German bank has
recently indicated that he has succeeded in convincing the Swiss that the United States may not
release blocked Swiss funds after the war, and that
as a result the Swiss are very apprehensive about

the future of their substantial assets in this
country.

in 7h.

M 180

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE JAN 30 1942
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Foley

Personal and Confidential
Stopford has mentioned to Pehle that

Floyd Blair of National City Bank has been criticizing the British attitude toward Vichy as being
too strict. Stopford said Floyd Blair is very
friendly with a number of people in the Vichy
group, such as Lacour-Gayet.

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CONFIDENTIAL

JAN 30 1942

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

You have asked me for information concerning William
L. Batt's connection with American Bosch Corporation.

1. In order to have a clearer picture it is necessary to mention briefly Batt's connection with SKF. Batt
has been associated with American SKF and its predecessors
since 1910. He was general manager from 1919 to 1923, when

he became president, which office he still holds. His
salary as president has ranged from $26,000 in 1935 to

$60,000 in 1940. He customarily files a joint return. He
and his wife have no significant income other than his
salary from American SKF Corporation.
On January 1, 1939, Swedish SKF owned 76 percent of

the outstanding stock of American SKF; certain other Swedish
interests owned approximately 18 percent. These shares were

transferred to Batt under voting trust agreements early in

1941. Batt himself owns a trifling amount of shares in
American SKF (65 shares).

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182

2. In 1938 Batt became a director of American Bosch

Corporation at a salary of $2000 a year. The records of the
company and the transfer agent do not reveal that he has ever
owned any stock in American Bosch. He resigned as director
of American Bosch on March 5, 1941.

The majority of the stock of American Bosch was reacquired in 1931 by the German Bosch Company. In 1934

Mendelssohn & Co. nominally acquired the German Bosch interest
in American Bosch. Shortly thereafter, George Murnane became
director of American Bosch and represented Mendelssohn's

interest in American Bosch. George Murnane is at present a
member of the firm of Monnet, Murnane & Co. and formerly was

a partner of Lee Higginson where he actively handled the
Kreuger and Toll matters. Murnane's partner, Jean Monnet,
formerly was chairman of the British French economic council,
and is now a member of the British Supply Council. Murnane became chairman of the board of American Bosch in June 1937 and

in 1938 effected a reorganization of the company. The financial
reorganization left the stock in Mendelssohn & Co. and the
managerial reorganization resulted in Donald P. Hess replacing
Arthur T. Murray as president. At the same time Batt was made
a director of American Bosch.
When Fritz Mannheimer, the head of Mendelssohn & Co.

committed suicide in August 1939, Mendelssohn & Co. failed

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and was liquidated. In May 1940, the Mendelssohn interests in
American Bosch were sold to the Stockholm Enskilda Bank which is
owned by the Hallenberg family. Murnane was then designated as

the voting trustee of the Swedish interests in American Bosch.

At the present time, therefore, the Swedish interests in
American SKF are represented by Batt, as voting trustee, and the
so-called Swedish interests in American Bosch are represented by
Murnane, as voting trustee.

3. In the course of our investigation of the personnel
and records of American Bosch, which we started last Saturday, we
have run across information which suggests that arrangements may
have been made whereby the Germans would protect SKF holdings in

German-occupied countries in exchange for efforts by the Wallenbergs to protect the German interests in American Bosch. Under
such an arrangement the Wallenbergs would hold the Swedish

interests in American Bosch until the end of the war when it
would resell such interests to the Germans.
Marnane reported to one of our Treasury investigators
that it was upon his recommendation that Batt was made president
of SKF and that Hess who succeeded Murray in 1938 as president
of American Bosch was suggested by Batt.

It has also been reported from another source that during
the liquidation of the Mendelssohn (after the outbreak of
war) English interests were asked to buy the Mendelssohn-

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held shares in American Boach with the understanding that

at the end of the war the control would be resold at a
profit to German interests; but the English exchange author-

ities refused to permit the transaction. Thereafter the
Mendelssohn interests in American Bosch were sold to the
present Smedish holders.

In view of the fact that our investigation of American
Bosch has just begun we can not warrant the accuracy of the
comments contained in section 3 of this memorandum.
(Signed) H. Morgentimu, Jr.

EHFJr:BB:RP:mp

1/30/42

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NATHAN J. STRAUSS
212 FIFTH AVENUE
NEWYORK.N.Y

January 30, 1942.

Mr. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Treasury Building,

Washington, D. C.

Dear Mr. Secretary:I am enclosing herewith

a copy of the "Seattle Post Intelligencer"

dated Tuesday, November 18, 1930.

I came across this old
paper in my files, and was particularly

interested in an interview with your
honored father. I have marked the article
for your attention, and I know that you
will be extremely interested in the prediction made at that early date as to the
possibility of another war.
Very truly yours,

viologistraws
NJS/PB
enc.

UTHAT

sontevouy passeu nam

out of the window-and

I think there was a

States treasury is so sacreo

woman in the case."

men walking the streets

"Not dollar in the 12

it must stay there when we

search of work they cannot

He Indicated that while

President's committee under

opinion expressed yester-

the French

Arthur A. Woods is perford
valuable service in its tabulas

day by Fred J. Libby,

instead

of alcohol it

vestigation of the wealthy
Pullman contractor's mys-

important col-

terious plunge Sunday
night from his room on

to drink

within

the

to

deadly
other pol-

Chief of Detectives Charles

women

Tennant, however, was inelined
to believe that it was a ease of

George Valk, wealthy Pullman con-

house

Olympic Hotel remains a MYA
very

closet, put

and ran out
burned down
about six
consmit suicide in

and did You would
heard of her, suicides
except for certain
Before she jumped sev-

took her hat.

ly rivers and harbors construction

work Every penny available to

teeth them in

this

BATTLE CREEK Mich. Nov. 17.

(A. .)-Henry Morgenthau. for-

mer ambassador to Turkey, said to

day he believes another European
war is imminent
If It happens, he said, the United

States will be forced to take A

Coroner William J. Jones will

noting

and other countries

hold an inquest into the tragedy tode

in

(Continued on Page 3. Column

murdering

16 BABIES DIE

attorney
gangsters

(A. P.)-Two of the foremost

1851,

(A.

muskrat.

effort to save the lives of thirty
three children dying of diptheria
Sixteen of forty-nine infants in a

near
San

private hospital there have died.

similar crime

Reports from Medellin said
physician at the hospital innoculated the children with diphtheria
germs through an error.

with

committee of 7,000

and expelled

-Tearle H George died

today from wounds suffered when
his shotgun was discharged by a

pediatricians in Colombia were
hurrying to Medellin tonight in an

writing for Cy
that

JAMESTOWN N. Y. Nov. 17

BOGOTA. Colombia. Nov. 17.-

New York
citizen even

U. S. In
NORTHAMPTON

GUN. KILLS MAN

George caught the muskrat in a
trap and attempted to free it because it was outsof season As he
a

district

those

Coolidge See

without her colonies and territories

and war talk is general

2)

thou

killing

license number

5

ERRS AND MUSKRAT FIRES

prob-

which Agnew said sped west
Boyer Avenue He gave police

Germany. he said, is not content

morrow and delve into all the

sol-

Auto, Police To
A report telephoned police ea

near his home. 2044 Boyer Av
started a police search for the

five-year period, with the stipulation that any country which is the
aggressor in a war shall sacrifice
this right of deferment.
France, the former ambassador
said, is preparing to repel any
tack. and is arranging alliances
with Poland Jugoslavia Rumania

arrived

Cata

Woman Forced Into

only by the United States, He sug
gested that the United States pro
to the United States, for possibly a

some of the blood before the police

February

this morning by Attorney Her
Clay Agnew that a woman
been forced into an automot

pose a postponement of payments
of war debts by European countries

the tragedy and told MacDonald
and Detective N. P. Anderson he
used his polishing rag to mop up

thrown into the picture. the inte
being to spend the entire sum

hand, just as surely as it was in

the World War.
War. he asserted, can be averted

where the body landed, witnessed

then

war department for the preag
fiscal year will be immediate

PREDICTS

their automobiles D. D. Leche,
one of the drivers in the rank

gloves, took

Borah did not make known
what sort of relief he intende
urde. but it was assumed

necessities or both
The projects of the war depar
ment. announced today, are mai

of

to her death. from
Riverside Drive
the lady took

Doles Likely

wiff take the general 400
Doles, either in money, livi

Coroner Howard E. MaeDonald
At first MaeDonald suspected
Valk had been murdered, basing
his opinion on the fact a woman's
shirtwaist, unaccountably hacked
with a pair of seissors, had been
found beside Valk's body where it
landed on the pavement on the
Fifth Avenue side of the hotel.
But he abandoned this bit
evidence after identifying the shirt
waist as one of the rags purchased
by the Yellow Cab Company for
the use of 118 drivers to polish

locked her jewelry

are needed at present.

tractor. whose dive to death
from the eighth floor of the

either suieide or accident, and
his view was shared by Deputy

emergencies.

and

country, more than mere figures

Olympie Hotel.
Suicide Or Accident

under

all

general promotion work for COD
struction going on throughout

the eighth floor of the

and

recog-

and

of unemployment statistics and

Valk's brother-in-law, after making a personal in-

object to prohi-

FIN time rias arrived."

said, "for immediate relief

That was the positive

they

that

papriog

pried the trap open with the butt of
his shotgun, the muskrat scrambled

over the gun. One of its feet

touched the trigger,

17 At the recent Birth
rial conference the do
tried to eat their cake and
it. too. They asked for equi

with Britain and more

self.government, which they

They wanted preferential

iffs within the empire,
they did not get. They
greater political freedom
themselves and less econ

so

freedom for Britain

wished to share the British

kets, but not the British re

sibilities.

Economic unity and pol
unity usually go together.
that reason the Briand prof
for a federated Europe is
tional plan for closer ecor
relations Our own Union

the lawless
own accord,
Francisco
health.
of
in

An Official Narrative
of the Lost

Polar Expedition

ANDREI

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FOR THE PRESS

JANUARY 30, 1942.
IMMEDIATE RELEASE

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT ON SIGNING THE EMERGENCY PRICE CONTROL

ACT OF 1942.

The Emergency Price vontrol Act of 1942 is an important
weapon in our armory against the onslaught of the Axis powers.
Nothing could better serve the purposes of our enemies

than that we should become the victims of inflation. The total
effort needed for victory means, of course, increasing sacrifices
from each of us, as an ever larger portion of our goods and our

labor is devoted to the production of ships, tanks, planes, and
guns. Effective price control will insure that these sacrifices
are equitably distributed.

The Act, taken all in all, is a workable one. It accomplishes the fundamental objectives of setting up a single Administrator, and empowering him to establish maximum prices and

rents over a broad field, to prohibit related speculative and manipulative practices, and to buy and sell commodites in order to

obtain the maximum production. To make price and rent control effective, the Administrator is given adequate powers to license
persons subject to the Act, to investigate and enjoin attempted
violations, and to bring about the commencement of criminal proceed-

ings against violators. Civil suits for treble damages by private

persons provide an additional enforcement tool.

But a price control measure must fall far short of being a
democratic instrument if it fails to surround the individual with
safeguards against ill-considered or arbitrary action. This Act,

while granting the Administrator broad powers, imposes upon him a

responsibility of equal breadth for fair play. He must, so far as
is practicable, consult with industry members before issuing price

regulations, and must accompany each such regulation by a statement

of the considerations upon which it is based. The provisions for
adjustment assure flexibility in administration. Persons adversely
affected by an order have a speedy and effective remedy in the Emergency Court of Appeals. The Administrator may proceed for the revoca-

tion of a license only through the courts. Finally, the Administrator
is required to transmit quarterly progress reports to the Congress.
The farm program which has been developed since 1933 has

set parity prices and income as a goal. There is nothing in this

Act to prevent farmers receiving parity or a fair return. But I

feel that most farmers realize that when farm prices go much above
parity, danger is ahead. One of the best ways of avoiding excessive

price rises, of course, is abundant production. And I hope agricultural prices can be maintained at such level as to give farmers
a fair return for increasing production.

In giving my approval to this legislation, I am acting
with the understanding, confirmed by congressional leaders, that
there is nothing contained therein which can be construed as a
limitation upon the existing powers of governmental agencies, such
as the Commodity Credit Corporation, to make sales of agricultural
commodities in the normal conduct of their operations. In my message to the Congress on August 25, 1941, disapproving the bill
H. R. 5300, I pointed out the extreme disadvantages of any action
designed to peg prices through the arbitrary withholding of Government-owned stocks from the normal channels of trade and commerce

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I further pointed out that the Commodity Credit Corporation
should be free to dispose of commodities acquired under its
programs in an orderly manner, for otherwise it will be impossible to maintain an ever-normal granary, to protect farmers
against surpluses and consumers against scarcity; and that

to restrict the authority of this corporation would greatly
increase its losses, nullify the effectiveness of existing
programs, and by breaking faith with consumers be inconsistent
with our present price control efforts.

I also should like to call attention to the fact that
I am requesting the departments of the Government possessing
commodities to make such commodities available to other depart-

ments in order to aid our war effort. This request, primarily,
will affect the cotton stocks of the Commodity Credit Corpora-

tion and will permit such stocks to be utilized, directly or by

exchange, in the production of war goods. Such transfers will
be in addition to the quantities which are now available for
sale. The request will also include grain and other commodities

which may be needed by the departments concerned.

The enactment of price control legislation does not
mean that the battle against inflation has been won. I have
doubts as to the wisdom and adequacy of certain sections of the
Act, and amendments to it may become necessary as we move ahead.

Moreover, price control legislation alone cannot successfully
combat inflation. To do that, an adequate tax and fiscal program,
a broad savings program, a sound production program, and an ef-

fective priorities and rationing program, are all needed.

Finally, all bulwarks against inflation must fail,

unless all of us - the business man, the worker, the farmer, and
the consumer - are determined to make those bulwarks hold fast.
In the last analysis, as Woodrow Wilson said,
"The best form of efficiency is the
spontaneous cooperation of a free

people".

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.

January 30, 1942.
Mail Report

Mail has been very heavy during the past week, entirely
aside from any called forth by the Secretary's several
speeches.

The new auto tax has been the subject of many com-

plaints - not about the tax itself, but about the form

of the stamp, and regulations in connection with it. There
is a strong demand for permission to autograph the stamp

or to carry it with the driver's license, and many of
these letters are written as a result of the theft of the
first stamp purchased.

Small manufacturers and businessmen continue to write
the Secretary, often saying that they know their problems

do not come under his jurisdiction, but that he has the
reputation of getting things done.

Suggestions for substitute names for Defense Bonds

and Stamps continue to arrive. The greater proportion of

these urge the name "Victory", but others suggest "Freedom",
"Unity", and other substitute names.

Requests for the new tax song are just beginning to
come in, and will probably increase as the Disney film is
shown around the country.

Just as the abstract was being compiled, 3 letters
came in praising the Secretary's radio broadcast on the
subject of the President's birthday and infantile paralysis.
The address at Cleveland is the subject of a separate
abstract sent herewith.

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Comments on the Present Emergency

Ing. Enrique de Montalvo, President of the Mexican National
Committee, Pro-Help to Democracies in War. With a pleasure
I send you, as I offered you, one anexo (memo) about the
New Individuals and Commercial and Industrial Firms in

Mexico working in benefit of Axis Powers. I let you know

that Avila Camacho's Govt. of Mexico talk too much about
Democracies to please, and deceives the U. S., but actsof in-

directly favoring Axis activities. # # # Lots of spyes

Japanese and Germans are working freely in Mexico, and the
actual Government of Mexico knows them and make nothing to
punish them.

Mrs. Myrtle Browning, Grand Saline, Tex. I have some land

in Texas that has a good grade of lignite at a very shallow
depth which could be mined cheaply. I am told that this
lignite can be pressed into briquetts and that it would
make very good fuel for furnaces, locomotives, etc. I am
offering this lignite as a gift to the U.S. Government should
it ever be needed to help in this struggle to preserve "The
American Way of Life".

Katherine M. Wright, Wright's Trading Post, Albuquerque,

N.M. The shops in this country have in stock a great deal
of merchandise made in Japan. I have very little in my
own shop, so little that it doesn't hurt me very much

financially to pack it away. But there are lots of merchants that it does hurt. At the same time, we are all
trying to buy bonds. If this merchandise, instead of being
stored in basements, could be sold and all the money used
to buy bonds, it would buy a tremendous lot of bonds. We

could use Japan's merchandise to fight her in return for

all our goods that she is using to fight us.

Aris J. Smith, Supt. of Bldg. Area, San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Enclosed is a money order in the amount of $49.25, to be
used in the National Defense. This donation has been made
by the 50 members of crew 14, shift 2, on the Army Terminal

Contract. They have declared that it is a pleasure for them
to make this contribution for the defense of democracy; and
they intend to make a similar one every 15 days. (All names
are Spanish in form.)

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-2H. F. Shaffer, Chambersburg, Pa.

Many thousands

of dollars are being held by collectors. Money that

has no value whatever, as premium coins. Some folks

save all their V nickels, and some all buffaloes with

a Mint mark, Indians, etc.

# # One party I know has
about 1,700 Indian cents. Some are smooth - none have

premium value. Another has two two-quart jars full of
Mint marked cents. One man tells me he has $50 worth

of V type 5-cent nickels. # # # Really Sir, these coins
have no value as from a collector's viewpoint. They are
being held in the hope that some day they will get big
premiums on them. The facts are that the lots contain

little or no extra value. # Ask these people to put

back into circulation every available coin that does not

carry extra premiums. Ask them to buy Defense Bonds with

the loose coins of all values that they have on hand. # *

The exchange to Bonds will, in 10 years, produce value,

while coins of only ordinary value will have no more value
then than they now have, even up to 10 years. Ask for
the release of Indian cents, Lincoln nickels, dimes,
quarters, etc.

D. O. Alston, Gen. Manager, Bullitt Hat Company, New

Kensington, Pa. Having been affiliated with one of the

Departments in Washington, D. C., I am well aware of your

ability for getting things done. (Describes difficulties
in the hat manufacturing business.)

A letter signed by 20 different names comes from Harding
College, Searcy, Ark. The names represent the entire group
of students receiving N.Y.A. assistance there. "# # # We

are requesting, with the approval of Harding College, that
we be eliminated from the N.Y.A. payroll effective Feb. 1,
1942, and that the appropriation al loted to Harding College

be henceforth used in national defense. We have been anxious

to do our part to assist in the great defense program of our
nation. We desire, however, that our allotment not be used
to increase the allotment of some other college, which probably needs the assistance no more than our own college, and

where the students could likely find other employment, just
as we have found that we can get other employment here.

This sacrifice is being made as a contribution to the defense
of our nation. We are indeed happy that work is now abundant,
that we do not longer need the NYA assistance, and that we

can offer this contribution to the defense of our country.

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-3HELP! HELP! HELP!

Mrs. Ola McCants Spencer, Mobile, Ala. The Secretary

of the Treasuary. Henry Morgenthan. dear sir i am

writting you about the way i have bin treated about my
deciested husband which is bin dead for some time and

here

is where. i have prove all the evidence they

asked me for and still they wont consider my case and

they ditting even buried him when he died. i had to

bare all of the expence for his furnell my self. #
if i dont get nothing but what i had to pay for the
expence of burrying him, and after that i was intiled
#

to sumpthing then, and he never have draw one penny out

of his bonius, at all the 1936 bonius, and i know i am
intiled to sume of it as i am his wife. * N * please

help me and tell me exzact what i am due and i will sure
thank you very murch for a reply.

Ashley Miller, N.Y.C. (Telegram) Have'a son in the Army
and have been buying Defense Bonds. But now we learn

from Congressional investigation that part of our money
invested in Bonds does not go into munitions needed by
Army and Navy, but into exorbitant profits for the pockets
of grafters who have or arrange contracts for planes, ships,
guns and other war materials. We loyal Americans want this
stopped now.

Frances Opack, Sixth Grade, W. B. Powell School, Washington,

D.C. (Encloses Money Order for $9.00) The sixth grade
of our school has organized a "Penny-a-Plane-Club. For
each enemy plane that is shot down by our American fliers,
we pay a penny. However, there is a limit to what we can

pay in one day. If more than five planes are shot in a

day, we can only pay five cents. Our "Penny-a-Plane-Club"
is only for voluntary contributions. Enclosed is our contribution.
R. B. Cadwallader, Financial Agent and Consultant, Atlantic

City, N.J. It is rumored that there is a captured German
Sub at the Cape May Base. If this be correct, why can't
the Government capitalize on it and place it on exhibition
(preferably at Atlantic City), and charge the purchase of
a Defense Stamp as the price of admission? Yours for an
early and conclusive victory.

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Chas. A. Koza, Invincible Tool Co., Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Have been reading so many nice things about you in the
papers recently that show you to be really human, and

an American as well, that I am emboldened to write di-

rectly to you. * Is there any place for the very small

business man, with Defense Contracts or orders 100%, in
the present set-up, Sir? We have orders from General

Electric, Federal Shipbuilding, The Army, The Navy -from every line of Defense Work, for we make tools that
are used in building and repairing ships of the sea and
ships of the air. Ford wants them on his bomber, engine
and other jobs, and all our orders come to us on AIA or
AIB ratings. The OPM says they are not essential - so

no priority rating for us. The banks say they cannot loan

money on our orders, having our work done in outside job
shops, although we have all our money tied up in materials
in
these shops. Our customers, who have received millions

upon millions from the U. S., tell us they do not have to
advance us any 30% as allowed them, and in turn to be

passed on to the tool makers, as our tools are attachments

and not machinery. We cannot borrow on unpaid accounts,

except on ten-day notes -- and we have to wait from 4 to
12 weeks for our customers to pay us, when they already

have had their money paid them. * * Now, this is the

story of not one, but many, small businessmen, who have
been caught with more orders than they have money to swing.

Properly financed, we could make tools up in a decent lot

in good time - if we can get the priority - for there is

a good demand for these tools and they are essential to
National Defense. Hundreds of others are in the same boat.
Do we have to quit and take our products off the market?
Joseph Marx, N.Y.C. About three weeks ago I applied for
a position with the Fed. Reserve Bank in N.Y.C., as I heard
they were taking on men. I was informed that there were

no available positions, yet a friend of mine, of draft age,
was accepted at once with the above bank. * # * I am a
veteran of the first World War, and while I realize I am
too old for active service in the armed forces of this
country, I feel that I can be of service in other ways.
(Lists bank experience, etc.)

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Favorable Comments on Bonds

Robert S. Anderson, Assistant Principal, Western High School,

Washington, D. C. Although not a philatelist, I am deeply
interested in preserving samples of each of the U. S.
Defense Postal Savings Stamps. It occurs to me that a special "Victory" folder, in which one of each of the series
of Defense Savings Stamps might be mounted permanently,

would appeal to a large number of people just as it does
to me. If so, the sale of stamps would be increased and
a great saving to the Government would result, since the
souvenir folder would not be exchanged for Savings Bonds.
Helen Slobodian, Secretary, Club Ukraine, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Our organization is composed of American youth of
Ukrainian descent whose parents have fled their native
land to seek peace and freedom here in this country. #

We find that It is our duty and great privilege to serve

We
our country as Americans of Ukrainian descent.
are aware that during the first World War the Ukrainians

were one of the largest buyers of Liberty Bonds in the
Foreign Section. We sincerely hope and will try to do our

best to see to it that this record may hold true for this

war.

John A. Johnson, Laramie, Wyoming. Thanks for your letter
of December, 1941, and I thank God for a country where we
can write to a high Government official and know that the

letter will be given respectful consideration.

Vilko Laric, N.Y.C. Your recent letter, with reference to
my purchase of Defense Bonds, has been a great honor and

privilege to me. It is now a further incentive for me to

serve this country, which I hope to claim for my own

some day, since I have recently immigrated. # Be-

cause I finally succeeded in converting my status from that
of a visitor to that of a regular immigrant on Dec. 31, 1941,
I have today purchased again - $2,000 worth of Defense Bonds.

And I shall always endeavor to follow the good and patriotic
suggestions emanating from such high sources as your own

office and person, whenever I am in a position to do so.

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Favorable Comments on Bonds

Robert S. Anderson, Assistant Principal, Western High School,

Washington, D. C. Although not a philatelist, I am deeply
interested in preserving samples of each of the U. S.
Defense Postal Savings Stamps. It occurs to me that a spe-

cial "Victory" folder, in which one of each of the series

of Defense Savings Stamps might be mounted permanently,

would appeal to a large number of people just as it does
to me. If so, the sale of stamps would be increased and
a great saving to the Government would result, since the
souvenir folder would not be exchanged for Savings Bonds.
Helen Slobodian, Secretary, Club Ukraine, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Our organization is composed of American youth of
Ukrainian descent whose parents have fled their native
land to seek peace and freedom here in this country.

We find that it is our duty and great privilege to serve
our country as Americans of Ukrainian descent. * We

are aware that during the first World War the Ukrainians
were one of the largest buyers of Liberty Bonds in the
Foreign Section. We sincerely hope and will try to do our

best to see to it that this record may hold true for this

war.

John A. Johnson, Laramie, Wyoming. Thanks for your letter
of December, 1941, and I thank God for a country where we
can write to a high Government official and know that the

letter will be given respectful consideration.

Vilko Laric, N.Y.C. Your recent letter, with reference to

my purchase of Defense Bonds, has been a great honor and

privilege to me. It is now a further incentive for me to

serve this country, which I hope to claim for my ownBesome day, since I have recently immigrated.
cause I finally succeeded in converting my status from that

of a visitor to that of a regular immigrant on Dec. 31, 1941,
I have today purchased again - $2,000 worth of Defense Bonds.

And I shall always endeavor to follow the good and patriotic
suggestions emanating from such high sources as your own

office and person, whenever I am in a position to do so.

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-6- Leonard Burke Solomon, N.Y.C. It may be presumptuous,

my reaching the ripe old age of 13 1/2 and voicing my

opinion of the manner in which Defense Bonds are now
being sold. The sale of these Bonds and Stamps has been

given a great deal of publicity. * We are told that

by purchasing, we are performing a great deed of national

loyalty and sacrifice. I am amazed that this is necessary.
The people should realize that they are not sacrificing anything, they are not being heroes. They are making an investment, one they know is the soundest on earth.

Bernard Turteltaub, Awning & Shade Co., Englewood, N. J.

I have just bought my fourteenth Defense Bond. I expect
to buy one a week, you see - I am on crutches, an infantile

paralysis sufferer. I cannot fight, but I can help in my
own little way. I have two pieces of paper before me, both
represent a great deal - both hold my future and both are
dear to me. The first piece of paper is the new Bond,

fresh and crisp. # The second, my father's citizenship

papers, which this coming Sat. will be 42 years old. Yes,
those papers permitted him to live his own life as he saw
fit, and worship his God as he desired, and enjoy not only
the four freedoms but the fifth also, and that was giving
You will be interested
charity to the underprivileged.
in knowing that one day I sat eight hours outside of the
*

#

White House hoping to get a glimpse of the greatest man

living, our President, no luck--. I will continue to buy

Bonds, - Bonds are my weapons.

In sending a copy of one of the many letters urging that

the word "Defense" be dropped from the Bonds, and "Victory"
be substituted, Senator Carter Glass also sends a copy of
his acknowledgment which reads - "I may say I quite agree
with you that it is about time we abandoned the word defense
and abandoned defensive thinking for a more aggressive name
and attitude; and I have been glad to pass your suggestion

along to the Secretary of the Treasury for consideration."

E. A. Rensmeyer, Boise, Idaho. The question has come up

among a group of the Life Underwriters as to whether it is
more patriotic to buy Govt. Defense Bonds, or Life Insurance
and Insured Annuities. It has been the conviction of most

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of us that Bonds were offered as an alternate to saving.
# Will you please advise us if a man is doing the
United States of America an injustice by buying life
insurance rather than Government Bonds, particularly when

there is a need for additional insurance on his life?

A very remarkable publication comes from E. M. Stigers,
Supervisor of Education, U. S. Penitentiary at Leavenworth,
Kans. It is THE NEW ERA, an attractive and readable maga-

zine printed by the inmates of the Penitentiary. The

magazine contains poems, general news articles and edi-

torials. There is a reprint of the President's indictment

of Japan; editorials on Pearl Harbor: blood donations; and
many "plugs" for Defense Stamps and Bonds. In particular,

Mr. Stigers calls the Secretary's attention to a chart
showing purchases made by prison inmates amounting to
$32,175.00.

Benjamin Kaufman, National Commander, Jewish War Veterans

of the United States, N.Y.C. We of the Jewish War Veterans

of the U. S. appreciate the vital need for our people to

buy Defense Bonds and Stamps to aid the Government in order

to finance our tremendous war requirements, to prevent inflation, and to promote morale. The members of this organization have therefore pledged themselves to purchase, or
through their efforts, to sell, $25,000,000 of Defense
Bonds prior to April 1, 1942. We are well on the way towards achieving our goal.

Howard Yeager, Easton, Pa. We of the Interstate Blind
Friends Club want to purchase a Bond for $18.75. We are
a small group. Can the U.S. Defense Bond be in the name

of the Club? All officers are blind, and no one individual
could very well be responsible for its safety, if it were
in the name of one person. Every one tells us a different
story, and the members would like the right way to proceed
so it could be in the name of the Club.

William J. Gorman, Secy., National Assn. of Letter Carriers, a
Washington, D. C. Enclosed herewith we are sending you # *
marked copy of our monthly issue, The Postal Record. #

We would also like to take this opportunity to express our

commendation of the fine mets and other national defense
publicity we have received from time to time from the Treas. to

Dept., and to thank you sincerely for the opportunity

use them.

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Unfavorable Comments on Bonds

Anonymous - The appeal to buy more Defense Bonds is begin-

ning to leave me a bit less responsive - when I hear of so

much aid to England, the Burma Road, Singapore, and not a
word of our air men being sent to aid General MacArthur.

Is Corregidor to be another Wake Island sacrifice?

Carl Zahler, (Hungarian Restaurant), N.Y.C. In discussions
with customers, I have learned that they are "afraid" to
buy Defense Bonds because if they should have an urgent

need for funds, for rent or something equally necessary,
they could not get an immediate loan thereon -- Defense
Bonds "may not be hypothecated as collateral for a loan".
They would like to own and keep Defense Bonds, but would

like a so-called safety valve provision so that the Bonds
could be used as collateral during a time of need. This
is particularly true of those who work in a seasonal
industry.

Miss Besse B. Marks, Sodus, N.Y. In my position as associate

editor of The Record, I am able to do quite a bit toward

promoting the sale of Defense Bonds and Stamps. I am also
publicity chairman for the town committee promoting the sale.
We have found cooperation in every department and in every
way except one - the Post Office. # # # The local Post Office
has Stamps for a day or two and then they are gone - and one
cannot buy them for another week or more. We have all complained to the Postmaster, who assures us that the Post Office

Dept. is to blame. We are told that the Sodus Post Office
is allowed a credit of only $200 for Stamps. # # Surely
there is some liason officer in the Treasury Dept. who can
take this up with the Post Office Dept.- and iron out a situation that should not exist. Sodus is a township of about

5,000 persons with a quota of $500,000 worth of Bonds in
1942. We DO want to do our share in the war effort. Can
someone in Washington help us?

Grace T. Lewis, Dean, Davis High School, Mount Vernon, N.Y.

# I recently bought some tax anticipation bonds through

my local bank and was amazed to see the bank note paper used

in their preparation. Why are these expensive bonds nec-

essary, especially since the civil population is told to save

paper, and pay heavy taxes for defense. These bonds cannot
be transferred and are not good for more than one year at a

time. Why is a simple, numbered receipt not sufficient?

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-9I. Newburger, Robert Woolen Co., N.Y.C. Mrs.

Jonas

Gans of 115 Central Park West went to the East River

Savings Bank at 96th Street and Amsterdam Ave to buy some
Defense Savings Bonds. When they asked her name, she said,

"Flossie Gans". The man then told her that he could not
sell her any bonds as Flossie is not a name but is a "nickname". She told him that it has always been her name, that
she signs her checks that way, and that she has drawn her

will and so signed it. Still he would not accept it. He

told her to go to the Board of Health and get a copy of
her birth certificate so that "she can know what her right
name is". She did that and found that she is registered
there as "Baby" Gans, no name having yet been assigned to

her when the doctor filed the birth certificate - SO she
was unable to buy her Bonds.

Mrs. S. Kanow, Bronx, N.Y.C. May I call to your attention
what I believe to be a regrettable situation. This afternoon
I took my son's $0.25 Defense Stamp book to our subsidiary

Post Office to convert same (filled to the extent of $18.75)
into a Bond, but was informed by the clerk that this could
not be done at this branch. He suggested my taking it to the
bank, where I was also told they could not accommodate me.

I was referred to the Williamsbridge Post Office. I have

since learned that this has been the plight of many, many

housewives in this vicinity. This naturally causes a decline
in stamp buying and bond accumulating - contrary to the "Buy

a Defense Bond' drive.

Beatrice Kallman, N.Y.C. Our school is located in one of
the poorest sections of N.Y.C. The response of the children,
therefore, in the purchase of Defense Savings Stamps is not
only encouraging, but inspiring. But the response, we know,

can be and will be, much greater, if the obstacles inter-

posed by the bank, where these children keep their savings,
could be eliminated. The great preponderance of the chil-

dren in our school come from families on relief. Yet both
parents and children stint themselves in order to contribute
to our country's defense efforts by investing, or attempting
to invest, every penny that they can spare. # # # The children
wish to purchase Defense Stamps with their funds on deposit.
We have secured the signatures of an overwhelming number of

parents for the withdrawal of these funds from the bank for

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the purpose of buying defense stamps. We have offered
numerous suggestions to the bank to facilitate such
withdrawals. The bank, however, insists on personal

visits by the parents in order to do this. This would

involve either loss of time from work, or from home duties,
aside from the fact that it would cost each parent tencents carfare - as the school is located four miles from
the bank. The parents know, the children know, and we

know that in this instance such expenditure of carfare is
pure waste, when the same dime would buy another defense

stamp. Neither will the bank convert these savings into
defense stamps, even on the written authorization of the

parents.

A Plain Citizen, Boston, Mass. The United States Government is advertising far and wide for citizens to buy bonds.
I spent an hour today trying to buy a $100 Defense Bond

in Boston - trying the big banks, as well as your central
Post Office in Federal Building. All stated they did not

have any on hand. Also, the main Post Office had no $100's,

or $50's, only $25's. I took four $25's, but really wanted

just one $100 Bond. # # # Last month I experienced the same

result in trying to buy a $100 Bond.

C. T. Stripp, University Heights, Ohio. I have received
several letters from you relative to purchases which I have

made in the past of U.S. Bonds for Defense; and I have

also just signed an application for a regular monthly subscription to such Bonds. However, in this purchase, and

based on advices which have been coming to us through every

possible channel, regarding the urgent need for money for
defense purposes, this money is gladly subscribed, with the
stipulation, however, that when and if the funds are diverted
in such wasteful extravagances as the St. Lawrence Waterways,
the Beaver Mahoning, the Florida Ship, and the Tennessee

Tombigbee River jects - all of which require money, men,
and materials for a very doubtful result, my subscription
will be cancelled. Expending money on such projects will
immediately serve as a notice to that effect.

J. W. Morris, Malaga, Wash. # I am an Old Age Pensioner.
By saving and doing without, I find I can save enough in
three months to buy an $18.75 Bond. But just before I
bought a Bond, I heard about one of my friends who bought a
Bond and the Board cut his pension.

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L. A. Corya, (Real Estate Ins.), Scarsdale, N.Y. What

moral right has the Government to urge the purchase of
Defense Bonds as an investment if Secretary Wickard and

the labor block in Congress refuse to place a ceiling
on agriculture and wages? If a private business engaged
in such a practice, the SEC would be quick to ask this
question, and they might offer a legal reason why the

corporation could not make such a promise as well.

Mrs. N. M. Bacheller, Melrose, Mass. Mr. Bacheller received, by mail today, an urgent request for us to purchase Defense Bonds - that certainly would be a great
joy, but the Administration in Washington the past 8
years has ruined our investments, our securities have
not been allowed to recover a small fraction of their

actual value. It is our class of citizens who have suffered drastically from the unfair policies in the investment field in the past 8 years. The middle class of
thrifty, patriotic American citizens who had saved their
income to be comfortable in their old age are the ones,

apparently, who still must suffer. (Lists their holdings.)
# We have been ruined while LABOR has been shown every

favor regardless of the merits. Force these Labor people
who are drawing large salaries or wages to pay their full
share of the cost of this War, and reduce the salaries

of those holding public office. Another class to tax is
the MINISTERS, and all persons drawing a pension, large

or small, from any fund, whether private or public. 12 # #

Let LABOR and those holding public office, and all pensioners

do their part - we have been ruined. If the investment and
real estate markets could be allowed to recover their normal
values, you would have no difficulty to raise the necessary
money.

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Comments on Taxation

Caroline Broune, San Francisco, Calif. In your interest-

ing broadcast of a couple of weeks ago, you invited
people to write you if they were interested in the Tax

Saving Plan in industry. I am not interested in that

particularly, but you always give the impression on the
radio that you are interested in the problems of all the
small taxpayers, and I thought you might wish to hear
from one of the "little people", and the explanation of

why we are not buying more Bonds. # * * I have always

felt toward you as I do toward the President - that you
have a deep feeling of friendliness and a real understand-

ing of the problems of all Americans. It is because I
admire your sense of fairness that I take the liberty of

suggesting that your broadcast was a little premature.
We want to buy Bonds but we cannot plan this year's
budget until Congress passes the new Tax Bill.

Edw. A. Thompson, Arlington, Va. It is noted that a Fed.
"Automobile Use" tax takes effect February 1, 1942. # *
We have no objection to the payment of such a tax, provided we can be assured of the use of the automobile dur-

ing the period for which the tax is applicable. # # #

It appears reasonable that such an assurance should accompany each Tax Certificate. We are fully aware of the
necessity of additional taxes to meet any emergency in
which our country may become involved, and this letter

is not to be construed that we object in any way to a
fair tax. The word"use" and not *ownership is the reason
for the question raised. May we have the pleasure of receiving your opinion.

Louis E. Orcutt, N.Y.C. (Asks better gluing on auto Tax
Stamps.) By the way, I knew and greatly admired your

father. I was an Editor of the Christian Herald from
1915 to 1918, during which time he represented our chari-

ties in Turkey and the Balkans. No one will ever know
how well he did it.

Rad. Sayman, Chicago, Ill. (Sends news item saying Treas.

announces it is illegal to write name on face of Auto Use
Stamp.) Do 2 errors make it right? I purchased my auto
stamp in good faith, and in order to prevent theft - because

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of the U. S. Treasury Department's error, I put my name
and auto license number on the face, and then took Scotch
tape and pasted it on the windshield of my car. How can
this be illegal when the error was first made by your
Department?

Hon. Allen T. Treadway, House of Representatives, Washington,

D.C. The simplified income tax return for persons with

not more than $3,000 gross income from certain sources is

evidence of your interest in making it easier for taxpayers
to meet their obligations to the Government. * # # It has
come to my attention that Deputy Collectors of Internal

Revenue, who are stationed at various points throughout

each collection district for the convenience of taxpayers,
are refusing to accept cash in payment of Federal taxes,

and are insisting that payment be made by check or money

order. # * # With the income tax now applying to those
with incomes of more than $750 in the case of single
persons, and more than $1,500 in the case of married persons and heads of families, it obviously affects many
persons who do not have checking accounts, and who must

necessarily go to the added expense of obtaining a money

order to pay their income tax, due to the ruling that cash

may not be accepted by Deputy Collectors. It occurs to
me that the Treasury would be doing a distinct service to

small taxpayers by rescinding this ruling. * # I need

not remind you that our Federal currency states that it

is legal tender for all debts, public and private, and

taxpayers are unable to reconcile this declaration with
the above-mentioned ruling.

Miss Stasia L. Ketner, Reading, Pa. In August, 1941,
when the U. S. Treasury Notes - Tax Series A-1943, were
issued, I purchased two of the $25 denomination. I considered it a very good idea. However, last week when I
went to the Revenue office in our city to pay my income
tax and offered these notes in payment, they did not know
what to do with them. They did not know if I should endorse
them, or just how they should be handled - with the result
that I am ready to pay my tax with these notes and the balance with a check, and I cannot do it. My understanding is
that they are NOT to be endorsed if they are used to pay
Federal Income Taxes, but only if the holder wishes to cash
them before maturity. Three clerks were consulted and none
of them could help me, all stating they had received no information regarding same.

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.

January 30, 1942.

Letters prompted by the speech of last week-end -

did not follow the usual pattern. I expected a number
of telegrams immediately thereafter, and a rush of
letters, which gradually slackened up.
Instead, we had no telegrams - either of approval

or disapproval - and for the first two or three days, the
only letters received were those from cranks who had com-

modity dollar and other monetary theories. Then about the

time that the rush of letters would usually be over, they
began to come in, and while they do not equal, in number,

those elicited by the inflation speech, and some others,
there has been quite a respectable collection received.
They are about equally divided, favorable and un-

favorable, and total so far, between 50 and 60. There
have been only 3 or 4 requests for copies of the speech,
and only 2 anonymous and abusive communications in con-

nection with it.
Sample favorable and unfavorable abstracts follow:

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Favorable Comments on Speech at Cleveland

Allan E. Baker, Perfumer, Brooklyn, N.Y. I read in
the New York Times today a two-column excerpt from

your speech in Cleveland, and congratulate you. And,
by the way, this was tucked nicely away on page 34 of
the Times, and few people ever get back that far in a
newspaper. Of course, the situation is a damned out-

rage, and more than that, but what in hell can the average citizen do. Just as you say, it is not a matter of
the amount of taxes one pays at all. It is a matter of
fairness. Every time I pay my taxes I get mad enough to
fight, not for the reason of the amount, but by reason
of knowing that others with fifty times the income in
state and federal securities don't pay a cent!
can't spare either the time nor the money to run down to
Washington, and even if I did come down there, I couldn't
find anybody to fight, SO far as I know. All I know that
I

I can do is to write to the Ways and Means Committee and

they'11 throw my letter in the waste basket. Well, you

are doing good work. Thanks.

Max L. Fraker, Urbana, Illinois. I believe your views
on tax-exempt bonds are a step in the right direction.
Why can't we, who buy defense stamps and bonds, use
them to pay local debts with? - As all the money used to
buy defense stamps and bonds will be sent direct to the

U. S. Treasury. I believe it will save the U. S. a lot
of expenses in various ways.

William M. Davy, Cleveland, Ohio. Your speech was not

disappointing - EXCEPT - to codfish aristocrats of the
Plain Dealer type. Their idea is to use the war to cloak
certain financial skullduggery. A hell of a fine way to
build up morale. You ought to frame that last paragraph
of their editorial (enclosed). I enjoyed your speech.
Sock them in the midriff and let the grunts echo where
they may.

T. E. Ward, New York, N. Y. The Morgenthau Plan for an

international currency is on its way to being the greatest
accomplishment in the world of commerce and currency since
the introduction of bills of exchange and accounts current.
You are, I know, better informed than I can possibly be on

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the subject of Nazi economic measures, which are clearly
those of desperate and daring men. It is evident that
the Nazi determination is (1) Victory and world domina-

tion under an International Nazi Mark, and (2) If a Nazi
defeat, bankruptcy of the democracies. The Morgenthau
Plan will assure solvency in the victory of the democracies.

Wm. Redin Woodward, Boston, Mass. You are greatly to

be commended on your clear and comprehensive statements

of the loopholes in the tax laws. Your statement that
the general public is not sufficiently aware of the
existence and nature of these loopholes deserves an especially loud "Amen, brother!" Congressman Eliot wrote
me last year that I was the only one of his constituents
who wrote to him in favor of the compulsory joint return.
Perhaps part of the reason for public ignorance on these
matters is that most of the income-tax experts are lawyers
whose business is chiefly the representing of wealthier
It is the Treasury experts who are best
taxpayers.
armed with facts and who are most likely to be able to
bring the public to see what needs to be done. Consequently I hope that the Treasury will conduct a vigorous
campaign of public information concerning those features
of the tax laws which you so ably discussed.
Paul W. Brainard, Ithaca, New York. It was a pleasure
to read your tax proposals given in Cleveland. I agree
most heartily with them. I disagree violently with the
loose argument advanced by one of our high New York State

officials calling it a "breach of faith" to have the
Government tax income from State and Municipal bonds. He
might just as well say it's a "breach of faith" to draft

our men to defend our very existence. If banking, business, labor and farming are primarily concerned with
their own selfish interests, then we have lost the war
already. Tax loop-holes must be eliminated if we are
to pay for our enormous war production and protect so
far as is possible the value of the good old American
dollar. From the day Defense Bonds have
been
issued,
Our
Bank
has
been 100%
have "pushed" their sales.
enrolled, since August, on a payroll allotment plan. Our
own investments have been 98% in United States Bonds since
1939. I am convinced that eventually the people will
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really "go all out" for your splendid financing plans.
Amy A. Guy, Richmond, Va. Your talk last night over
the radio was one of the finest I have ever heard. It
was sincere, neighborly and kind and I could not help
but feel, as you spoke, that President Roosevelt was
certainly sent to us by God, to see us through such
a

critical period. He is indeed fortunate to be such a

person that you could say those things about him. These
are strenuous times in which to live but we have many
things for which to be thankful - a great President and
a great man as head of our financial structure.

Robert E. Barrett, Holyoke, Mass. Excerpts from your
address at Cleveland indicate the desirability of taxing the income from State and Municipal securities.
May I ask if there is any reason why the laws should
not now be changed so as to tax the net income of state
and municipally owned enterprises engaged in furnishing
to the public such services as transportation, gas,
electricity and water. In Massachusetts alone, there
are over forty such municipally owned enterprises furnishing gas and electricity to the public with substanIn Massachusetts the
tial annual net profits.
plant and real estate used by these municipal enterprises are tax-exempt, but with few exceptions, substantial sums are annually transferred from the profit and
loss account of the department to relieve the taxes on
real estate, but I know of no case where donations have
been made to aid the Federal Government whose present

activities are so essential to their future security.

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Unfavorable Comments on Speech at Cleveland.

Dr. G. D. Fairbanks, Brownsville, Texas. # # # You have missed

the greatest leak, viz., the millions and billions of dollars

paid to officers and employees of corporations. The small
stockholders, like myself, 15 to 18 million of us, have to pay
the 30 or 40 per cent corporation tax and then on top of that
their individual income tax on the same profits. Officers and
employees only pay the individual tax but no part of the 40%
tax. Many officers also take the money out of their company
treasuries to pay even their individual tax. (See 279 U.S.

Supreme Court Reports, page 716.) Don't you think a proper
payroll tax should be assessed to equalize what the stockholders
have to pay?

Mr. Herold J. Schwab, Birmingham, Alabama. If instead of making
a drastic change by entirely removing income tax exemption on
municipal Bonds, the law could be fixed to allow exemption on

half, or some fraction, the status would not be entirely changed
and the exemptions violently stopped, merely an entering wedge.

After carrying this for a year or more, it could be raised or
eliminated. In other words, this idea is that the change from
a non-taxable income to a taxable income would therefore not
be forcible and sudden.

Mr. Harold W. Holt, Urbana, Illinois. Please permit me to point
out that adoption by Congress of your proposal to tax income
from state and municipal bonds would mean a violation of the
understanding under which the states adopted the income tax
amendment. They did not at that time understand that they were
giving the federal government power to tax income from their

securities. Quite the contrary!

Henry Y. Offutt, Louisville, Kentucky. In view of your expressed

opinion advocating taxation by the Federal Government of the
income from now outstanding State and Municipal bonds, I would

sincerely appreciate knowing the principles of taxation which

you advocate with reference to the income from United States
Government bonds issued with the covenant that the income is
free from all normal Federal Income taxation.

Walter Barlow, Yonkers, New York. I was dumbfounded to read
your interview about taxing exempt government and state bonds.

I do not own any of these bonds as I have all I can do to
support my family on my small salary but I do not believe in
breaking a solemn pledge made by the U. S. KEEP these bonds

exempt but make all new issues subject to tax. At least give
the world an.example of government honesty. I buy $10 of

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Defense Bonds every month.

R. D. Adair, Albuquerque, N.M. I read with interest of your

statement regarding "tax discrimination" and "glaring examples"
of tax exemptions. I was sorry to note, however, that you
failed to mention the billion and a half Union racket with
its utter lack of taxation. Recently in making out my tax
report I listed $18 for exemption as Union dues. This year,
the Union says it will be $24. Of course the worker should
be allowed this exemption as in a great many instances he

is forced to pay the dues and initiation fees for the privilege
of working. In my own particular case, I was told after
18 years' satisfactory service with my employer, that I either

had to join the Union and pay whatever dues they stipulated,
or look for work elsewhere. Having a family to support and

being unable to get other employment, I hung my head in shame

and applied for membership. Now I learn that this money is
not only exempt as far as the worker is concerned, but is
also exempt from taxation after we turn it over to the Union.
Mary Murphy, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. As you admit the
holders of big govt. bonds should be compelled to pay income
taxes, which would mean a large sum for the prosecution of

the war, why don't you do something real about this, i.e.,
see that they do pay them, instead of considering taking more

from the working people? Why don't you crusade for some

real decent thing like that instead of touring the country
trying to get more working people to buy defense bonds?

Give us the reason.

John M. Burton, Gloversville, New York. It would seem to me
that any proposal to levy taxes on state, municipal or U.S.
securities which were sold under a solemn pledge not to levy
such taxes, would do far more harm than good. The greatest
asset of the United States government is not the money in its

Treasury, for this is very quickly spent. But the greatest

strength and resource of our country lies in the CONFIDENCE
and LOVE which our citizens have for our country. When the
United States Government breaks its solemnly pledged word,

then the respect and confidence of its citizens is very

greatly impaired.

Mr. W. H. Hill, Newton & Hill, Fort Edward, New York. I have
read with misgiving of your proposal to tax exempt government
and municipal bonds now in the hands of the public. My own

securities of this nature are so limited that the net difference

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in my tax would not warrant writing this letter, but as
a holder of life insurance and as president of our local

bank, I feel it my duty to register a protest. # * * In

a small community, we feel that our bank is the cornerstone
of our business life. It is owned by many stockholders who
have received little or no return on their money during the
past several years and without complaint. Our depositors
have likewise received only 1% on their deposits and without
protest. Your plan, however, would place an extra expense
upon us that would totally eliminate any income for either

class. # # # It is no time to destroy the confidence of
our citizens in the integrity of our Treasury Department.

The present trend is towards disaster, which in turn creates
dictators, and I can assure you that I frequently hear the
question as to whether our "democracy" is worth the cost
in bloodshed, to say nothing of resources. When you draft
a boy into our army, you require an oath and you demand that
he keep it - so why should he expect that the government
itself should not stand by its own agreements?

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE January 30, 1942
TO

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
Joseph Melia
EDITORIAL COMMENT ON TAXES:
CLOSING THE LOOPHOLES

The press has no quarrel with the general thesis that
tax avoidance is wrong and should not be tolerated. Of
Secretary Morgenthau's four recommendations for closing tax

loopholes, however, only the proposal to tax outstanding
issues of State and municipal bonds is creating appreciable

editorial dissent at this time.
At present, editorial argument over tax exempts is confined to the East. Without exception those newspapers that
have commented until now, including the financial journals,
support the proposal to tax the income from future issues of
State and municipal securities. With equal unanimity they

bitterly attack the suggestion to tax the income from outstanding issues.

It is generally conceded that the Federal government has

no legal contract with the holders of tax-exempts. Editorial
writers nevertheless find an implied guarantee of tax exemption

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for outstanding issues, since the Federal government never

challenged the right of States and municipalities to issue
tax-free bonds. If a tax is imposed on the bonds now out-

standing, they hold it would be an inexcusable breach of faith
and a gross abuse of Federal power.

The attitude of the Eastern press toward taxing the income
from future and outstanding issues of State and municipal bonds

is well mirrored by the Washington Post. Last week the Post,
along with the Scripps-Howard chain, argued: "Under existing

conditions the familiar arguments -- political and economic --

against Federal taxation of municipals have lost their validity
Consequently existing loopholes for legal tax evasion should be

plugged, both in fairness to taxpayers and for the sake of
revenue

After Secretary Morgenthau's speech in Cleveland, however,

the Post quickly made it clear that it did not regard outstanding
issues as a "loophole."

"For years," said the Post, "it has been assumed, on the
basis of court decisions, that municipal bonds are not subject
to Federal taxation. Such bonds have been bought by investors
Suddenly to deprive holders of
with this understanding
municipal bonds of the tax-exemption privilege would be regarded--

and rightly--as an indirect assault upon the sanctity of contracts

With war expenditures necessitating the borrowing of many billions,
the Government needs more than ever to maintain a reputation for

dealing fairly with the investing public."

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Although grasspoot editors as a whole have not yet entered
the tax exempt argument, the line they may be expected to follow
is indicated by the Conference on State Defense, an organization

devoted to "preserving the rights" of State and municipal governments. On the very day of the Secretary's speech in Cleveland,
the Conference issued a statement attacking the proposal to tax

outstanding issues of municipal and State bonds. Every one of

these bonds, it said, has been issued with the "full recognition"
of the Treasury that they were "immune" from Federal taxation.
"This repudiation," the Conference warned, "may well impose a
moral obligation on every community, State and county in the
country to make good every penny that will have to be paid out

in taxes on these obligations."
The Conference did not mention in this statement the

possibility of taxing future issues, but its traditional stand
is that such a step would be "economically unsound, unconstitu-

tional and a threat to the borrowing power of local governments.
The Conference has also consistently called fallacious the argument that such a levy is necessary to finance the war and to

plug a tax loophole. It maintains that the elimination of future
tax exempts would yield no substantial income for forty or fifty
years, and that, according to Treasury figures, only about six
percent of the assets of large estates are in tax-free bonds.

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Joint Returns

The proposal to make mandatory the filing of joint returns
has been condemned by the General Federation of Women's Clubs
and upheld by the CIO.

Claiming to represent two million women in 16,000 affiliated
clubs, the board of directors of the Federation voted to oppose

any legislation requiring joint returns on the grounds that such
a law would be the worst "deterrent" women had suffered in 50
years. "What is $389,000,000 compared to the rights of women?"
one director is reported to have inquired when another had brought

out that joint returns would increase Federal revenue by that
amount. The Federation maintains also that joint returns would
endanger the American home by discouraging marriage and encouraging
divorce.

The CIO's endorsement of mandatory joint returns was con-

tained in a tax resolution adopted this week by its executive
board. The resolution served notice that the CIO would lobby

for a tax program to "stop war profiteering and the creation

of war millionaires and which will protect the standard of living
necessary to maintain American production at a maximum." Specif-

ically, the CIO resolved to oppose "most vigorously" any attempt
to pass a general tax on wages or sales, and maintained that

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sufficient war revenue could be obtained by (1) increased
normal taxes and excess profit taxes on corporations,

(2) increased taxes on the present individual income tax

base, (3) closing loopholes in the individual and corporate
income taxes, such as separate returns for husband and wife

and tax-free bonds, (4) increased rates and lowered exemptions

on estate and gift taxes, and (5) excise taxes on certain
luxury goods.

Price Control

The only good word the press has to offer for the price

control bill is that it might have been worse. Editorial writers
are gloomily resigned to an inevitable climb in prices. Relieved

that there is at last some sort of legislation on the books,
however, they are hopeful that it will give Mr. Henderson enough

authority to at least check runaway inflation. Criticism centers
on the agricultural provisions and lack of wage control. When
even such newspapers as the Hutchinson, Kanse3. Herald hold that

the farm ceilings will encourage inflation, it is safe to assume
that many farmers are among those disgusted with their political
spokesmen in Congress.

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For your information
January 30, 1942
To

Archibald MacLeish

From Alan Barth
EDITORIAL OPINION
ON THE WAR:
RESPONSE TO CANDOR

Shift

The pendulum of editorial attention has gone full swing
from the Atlantic to the Pacific. There appears now to be
almost complete agreement in the press that the Far East is

at least the most urgent, if not the most important, sector
of the war today.
Japanese advances, underscored by Australian demands for

assistance, shocked the commentators into a state of serious
alarm. Even The New York Times, staunch proponent of Hitler

as Enemy No. 1, observes that "unless this drive is halted
somewhere, the islands fringing Australia and Java will be as
firmly in Japan's grip as her mandated archipelago. Our job

of dislodging her will be colossal. No present comfort can
be drawn from Japan's lengthening communication lines if no

effort is made to cut them and if the bases from which they
can be attacked are given up one by one. " And William

Randolph Hearst tells his readers that "The war in the Pacific

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is not only the most serious situation that confronts the
Allies, but it is the only phase of the war which is now
vital." Secretary Knox's restatement of his view as to the
relationship between the European and Asiatic fronts is in

accord with the current consensus of editorial opinion.
In this atmosphere of general dismay, the Battle of
Macassar Strait has glowed as a bright hope. Commentators
see in it reassuring evidence that Japanese communications
are becoming overextended and that the United Nations are

capable of unified and effective action. Perhaps the importance of the blow dealt to this Japanese convoy has been over-

stated in headlines. But there are now very few signs of
complacency in the editorial attitude toward Far Eastern
problems.

Offensive

Despite absorption in the Pacific, most of the press now

available is able to herald the landing of American troops in

Northern Ireland as another hopeful indication of allied unity.
Minority elements, particularly Irish and Catholic journals,
clamor against the employment of our forces to aid England and

against the exertion of pressure upon Eire. But the newspapers
which have consistently supported Administration foreign policy

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frankly rejoice that the United States is at last moving to
meet the enemy on foreign fields. The Philadelphia Record,

for example, deploring official reluctance to refer to this
force as an AEF, declares: "The public understands quite as

well as the highest officials that we cannot beat the Axis
by staying home; that we cannot avenge Pearl Harbor merely by
coast defense

It may be silly, as President Roosevelt

says, to call the present force in Ulster an AEF. But it

isn't silly to hope that it grows into one -- fast."
The Atlanta Constitution describes the contingent as the
"vanguard of a new AEF" and "the forerunner of vast forces."
The Christian Science Monitor feels that "the presence of an
American force in Ireland will have tremendous effect on the
morale of peoples in the Nazi-imprisoned countries and in those

that are threatened -- like Eire." All in all, the press now
shows a wholehearted understanding and acceptance of the lesson

which the President so painstakingly propounded in the days

when aid-to-Britain was a live and debatable proposition -that defense begins abroad.
Catharsis

The Roberts report seems to have purged the worst phases

of Pearl Harbor's unhappy aftermath. It served as a confession

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and, as such, lifted in some measure the sense of guilt and
shame which it acknowledged.

The Chicago Daily News expressed the prevailing appraisal

of the report in calling it "fair, clear and complete." As to
the placing of blame, an interesting distinction is to be noted
between the majority of the press which has supported the

Administration's foreign policy and the minority which has con-

sistently opposed it. In the latter category falls William
Randolph Hearst's judgment that "The Federal Administration at
Washington has conducted an investigation, mainly concerning

its own responsibility, in regard to the Pearl Harbor debacle."
Similarly, The Chicago Tribune endeavors to show that "the army
and navy departments, and almost all the top-ranking generals

and admirals share the responsibility for the greatest defeat
ever inflicted upon the American navy."

A great majority of commentators, however, feels that the
basic blame must be spread among all Americans by reason of our

complacency and our blindness to the intent of the Axis. They

are inclined to place the lightest share of this responsibility
upon the top men at Washington who repeatedly warned of impend-

ing danger. The Daily Oklahoman, indeed, goes so far as to
assert: "This report shows that the Washington departments were

fully informed, completely alert, and entirely cooperative."

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Varying degrees of punishment for Admiral Kimmel and

General Short are prescribed by the press. Many feel that
humiliation and remorse have already given them all the suffer-

ing that is their due. Others urge that the ritual of courtsmartial be fulfilled. In general, commentators insist that
these officers pay an unspecified "appropriate penalty" for

their "dereliction of duty."
The most common moral drawn from the report is that it
demonstrates the need for unified command. The interpretation
of the Roberts Commission comments on this score is somewhat

confused. Proponents of a separate air force see their thesis

vindicated in the failure of the army to disperse its planes
and to appreciate the importance of air powers; those opposed

to a separate air force find their objections confirmed by the
report's demonstration that the coordination of sea, land and

air forces is essential.
A good deal of indignation has been expressed about the

gentle treatment of aliens in Hawaii. Comments on this phase

of the report seem calculated to promote increased hostility

toward foreign nationals in the United States, particularly
Japanese.

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The outstanding effect of the report is an immense restora-

tion of confidence in the integrity and responsibility of the
United States Government. "The Government," according to The

St. Louis Post-Dispatch, "has honored itself by spreading the

Pearl Harbor story upon the record. It is a triumph of the
democratic method that the Government should make a confession

of major error." " In all sections of the country, this candor
on the part of the Government was appreciated and respected.

There is still a strong feeling in the press that the whole
story about Pearl Harbor has not yet been told. But there is
also a warmly compensating feeling that the Government has now

told all of the story which national security permits it to tell.