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DIARY

Book 452

October 17 - 20, - 1941

-BBook Page
Budget

Non-defense expenditures in 1942 budget: Report
submitted by Bureau of Budget - 10/18/41
Business Conditions
Haas memorandum on situation for week ending
October 18, 1941

452

141

331

-0China

See War Conditions
Coast Guard

Commandant, with approval of Secretary of Treasury,

to put personnel ashore to protect vital
facilities, shore structures, etc. : Proposed

Executive Order discussed at 9:30 meeting - 10/17/41
Waesche to cancel trip West on HMJr's instructions 10/17/41

33

42,43

Connelly, Martin R. (Lieutenant)
See Customs, Bureau of

Copper

See War Conditions: Lend-Lease
Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's resume' - 10/17/41

104

Custome, Bureau of

Shooting of Lieutenant Martin R. Connelly by Customs
Guard John K. Yeung, as Connelly was leaving
United States Army Transport PRESIDENT CLEVELAND

a) Navy asked to permit personnel to testify 10/17/41

b) Report to Secretary of War - 10/20/41
1) Stimson-HMJr conversation - 10/21/41:
See Book 453, page 101

c) Supervising Customs Agent in Pacific Coast

sent out to help - discussion at 9:30 meeting -

10/21/41: Book 453, page 14

d) HMJr's letter to Attorney General - 10/21/41:
Book 453, page 98

e) Stimson-HMJr conversation - 10/27/41:
Book 454, page 167

f) Resume of case to date discussed at 9:30
meeting - 10/29/41: Book 455, page 130

g) Pictures discussed at 9:30 meeting - 11/4/41:
Book 457, page 98

h) Foley reports on police record - 11/4/41:
Book 457, page 257

i) Reports received from Honolulu - 11/6/41:
Book 458, page 73

j) Justice and Treasury select counsel 11/12/41: Book 460, page 154

k) Foley gives HMJr complete report on trial to
date from "Bob" Chambers in Honolulu 11/26/41: Book 465, page 271

1) Verdict: Manslaughter - 10-15 years; probable
appeal - 12/1/41: Book 467, page 30

a) 10 years at hard labor - 12/4/41:
Book 468, page 226

103
324

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Defense Savings Bonds
See Financing, Government

-FFinancing, Government

Non-defense expenditures in 1942 budget: Report
submitted by Bureau of Budget - 10/18/41

452

141

a) Report on first meeting with Committee 10/29/41: See Book 455, page 151

Defense Savings Bonds:

Treasury Hour: Albert Stoessel (friend of

Werner Josten) to review programs in advance 10/17/41

38,41

a) HMJr changes plan - 10/23/41:
Book 453, page 309

Progress report - 10/17/41
Status of state organizations as of
October 17, 1941

74

78

"Millions for Defense" - samples of
Field Organization News Letter, No. 22

79,80,81,82
83

Kentucky set-up discussed by Barkley and HMJr 10/20/41

285

Comparative statement of sales for first

sixteen business days of August, September,
and October, 1941 - 10/20/41

306

-GGuatemala

See Latin America

-KKentucky

See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

-LLatin America
Guatemala:

Report on possible freezing control sent by
DuBois (Treasury) and Hooker (State) -

197

10/18/41

-MMail

See Treasury Department

-RBook Page

Revenue Revision

Tax Anticipation Notes: Proposed letter to
taxpayers discussed by HMJr, Bell, Sullivan,
Morris, Buffington, Barnard, Odegard, and Kuhn 10/17/41

452

a) Proposed letter
b) "Know Your Taxes": See Book 453, page 298

46

66,67,69

-Stoessel, Albert
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

-TTax Anticipation Notes

See Revenue Revision
Treasury Department

Mail: Greater efficiency in handling at Foreign
Funds, Public Debt, and Savings Bonds
discussed at 9:30 meeting - 10/17/41

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-UUnemployment Relief

Work Projects Administration report for week
ending October 8, 1941

345

United Kingdom

See War Conditions: Military Planning
-WWar Conditions

Airplanes:

Employment in Aviation Manufacturing Industry Haas report - 10/17/41

a) Chart
Shipments to United Kingdom and overseas

92

100

commands - British Air Commission report -

10/17/41

101

Shipments to the British - Kamarck report 10/20/41

356

China:

Fox praised in Singapore Daily, Hong Kong 10/20/41

Exchange market resume' - 10/17/41, etc

364

138,211,370

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War Conditions (Continued)
Export Control:
Exports to Russia, China, Burma, Japan, and
France, as reported to Treasury Department
during week ending October 11, 1941 10/18/41.

Book Page

452

180

Exports of petroleum products, scrap iron, and
scrap steel from United States to Japan,
Russia, Spain, and Great Britain, week

ending October 18, 1941
Foreign Funds Control:

Progress report as of October 20, 1941

350
349

Lend-Lease:

Aid to Britain: Conference in White's office 10/20/41

249

a) Agenda

280

Copper Mines: Purchase of output of three
high-cost Michigan mines discussed in Foley
memorandum - 10/20/41

354

10/19/41

213

Military Planning:
Report from London transmitted by Halifax Purchasing Mission:

Vesting order sales - 10/20/41
Work Projects Administration
See Unemployment Relief

-YYeung, John K. (Customs Guard)
See Customs, Bureau of

361,362

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington.

FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,

Friday, October 17, 1941.

The Secretary of the Treasury, by this public notice, invites
tenders for $150,000,000, or thereabouts, of 91-day Treasury bills,
to be issued on a discount basis under competitive bidding. The

bills of this series will be dated October 22, 1941, and will
mature January 21, 1942, when the face amount will be payable with-

out interest. They will be issued in bearer form only, and in
denominations of $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, $100,000, $500,000 and

$1,000,000 (maturity value).
Tenders will be received at Federal Reserve Banks and Branches

up to the closing hour, two o'clock p. m., Eastern Standard time,
Monday, October 20, 1941. Tenders will not be received at the
Treasury Department, Washington. Each tender must be for an even

multiple of $1,000, and the price offered must be expressed on the

basis of 100, with not more than three decimals, e. g., 99.925.
Fractions may not be used. It is urged that tenders be made on
the printed forms and forwarded in the special envelopes which
will be supplied by Federal Reserve Banks or Branches on application
therefor.

Tenders will be received without deposit from incorporated
banks and trust companies and from responsible and recognized

dealers in investment securities. Tenders from others must be
accompanied by payment of 10 percent of the face amount of Treasury

bills applied for, unless the tenders are accompanied by an express
guaranty of payment by an incorporated bank or trust company.
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-Immediately after the closing hour, tenders will be opened

at the Federal Reserve Banks and Branches, following which public
announcement will be made by the Secretary of the Treasury of the

amount and price range of accepted bids. Those submitting tenders

will be advised of the acceptance or rejection thereof. The
Secretary of the Treasury expressly reserves the right to accept

or reject any or all tenders, in whole or in part, and his action
in any such respect shall be final. Payment of accepted tenders
at the prices offered must be made or completed at the Federal
Reserve Bank in cash or other immediately available funds on
October 22, 1941.

The income derived from Treasury bills, whether interest or

gain from the sale or other disposition of the bills, shall not
have any exemption, as such, and loss from the sale or other

disposition of Treasury bills shall not have any special treatment,
as such, under Federal tax Acts now or hereafter enacted. The

bills shall be subject to estate, inheritance, gift, or other
excise taxes, whether Federal or State, but shall be exempt from

all taxation now or hereafter imposed on the principal or interest
thereof by any State, or any of the possessions of the United

States, or by any local taxing authority. For purposes of taxation
the amount of discount at which Treasury bills are originally sold
by the United States shall be considered to be interest. Under
)

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-3Sections 42 and 117 (a) (1) of the Internal Revenue Code, as
amended by Section 115 of the Revenue Act of 1941, the amount of

discount at which bills issued hereunder are sold shall not be
considered to accrue until such bills shall be sold, redeemed or
otherwise disposed of, and such bills are excluded from considera- -

tion as capital assets. Accordingly, the owner of Treasury bills
(other than life insurance companies) issued hereunder need include

in his income tax return only the difference between the price
paid for such bills, whether on original issue or on subsequent
purchase, and the amount actually received either upon sale or

redemption at maturity during the taxable year for which the

return is made, as ordinary gain or loss.
Treasury Department Circular No. 418, as amended, and this

notice, prescribe the terms of the Treasury bills and govern the

conditions of their issue. Copies of the circular may be obtained
from any Federal Reserve Bank or Branch.
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October 17, 1941
9:25 a.m.

RE FINANCING

Present:

Mr. Haas

Mr. Hadley

Mr. Bell
Mr. Morris
Mrs. Klotz
H.M.Jr:

On reading this memo, it isn't quite clear

to me what you people had in mind. You say, "Offer
a new Treasury security for four hundred cash

and in addition offer the holders of the RFC
the fifty percent. If

Maybe I don't understand it, but you
say the RFC need--

Bell:

They need five hundred million.

H.M.Jr:

Well, now, if you took the - yes. RFC, three
hundred and the Commodity Credit - I take it

you are bunching the two?
Bell:

That is right. You would offer a Treasury
note, say, for four hundred million dollars.
Is that what I put in there?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, that is right.

Bell:

Four hundred million dollars, and then you
would increase that - that is, you would

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-2offer for cash and then you would increase

that four hundred million by fifty percent

of the exchange of RFC and Commodity Credit,

which would be a hundred and fifty, two
hundred and fifty million, so you would have

a six hundred fifty million Treasury note
outstanding, and then you would pay off the
two hundred fifty left in cash.

H.M.Jr:

Wait a minute. You see, you have got - now
wait a minute. I have got the four hundred
and half of the RFC and Commodity Credit,

two fifty, which would give you a six fifty

note.

Bell:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

What are you going to do with the hundred

and fifty?

Bell:

Hundred and twelve?

H.M.Jr:

No, the other half of the RFC.

Bell:

Pay that off in cash. Have one half of it
exchanged.

H.M.Jr:

And the four hundred you raise will do that,

Bell:

Well, the four hundred plus the two fifty
bills. You see, you are getting fifty million
bills coming in also.

H.M.Jr:

I don't think that that is quite clear, the

is that it?

way you are putting it.
Bell:

You see we put down there, start the bills the

twenty-second at fifty million dollars a

week.

H.M.Jr:

Let me just see. I see.

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Now, all of that one - now, what is two?
Bell:

Well, two is another--

H.M.Jr:

Oh, no.

Bell:

another suggestion, yes. You can reopen

a Treasury note - I don't think I am in favor
of it, but you could reopen that old Treasury
note.
H.M.Jr:

Could they say, "Here is one, and then the

alternative the next time it is written?

Bell:

Well, we didn't recommend any one of them,
but we said we suggest these for consideration.

H.M.Jr:

Oh! Well, it isn't clear to me that two and
three are alternatives. Reading it quickly,

you wouldn't know it.
Bell:

I see. I am not so sure that that fifty
percent is even enough. There is quite a
lot of kick in the market.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, I got wonderful statements in the Tribune
today.

Bell:

Your Tribune is good, but the banks are feel-

ing a little bit low about it, particularly
some of your banks, your large banks, that

have really taken your guaranteed and made

a market for them, such as the Guaranty and
one or two of the others, and they have pur-

chased them, so they say, with the rights in

mind.

H.M.Jr:

The Tribune just glowed.

Morris:

Well, I think that was on the major policy.
I read that, and I think that is on the major

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-4policy, which we are all in accord with.
H.M.Jr:

But today you are talking about something -

Bell:

It is pretty effective.

H.M.Jr:

I just wanted to see what would happen if

Bell:

There really wasn't much market yesterday.
It was just a marking down.

Hadley:

A marking down. They weren't willing to
sell at. par, but they would bid for them at

there are no rights on this thing. Something happened to this thing. Of course,
I didn't have that in mind.

I said it.

par.

H.M.Jr:

Some banks call you?

Bell:

By golly, I have had calls from all over the
country, and I have got one in from Chicago
this morning waiting for me.

McLucas called me. They weren't sore. They

just said to tell the Secretary that they

have been in this market, they have held
these guaranteeds, and they haven't got them

for speculation but for investments, but they
have taken into consideration the right
values. They buy them because it gives
them an exchange privilege on the next one,
and they don't have to be in the market and

boosting up the market all the time to get

their investments. They said to just tell

you that, and that is all they wanted. Some

of the people around New York yesterday said,

"We just don't think the Secretary is going

to be that brutal. He hasn't been in the

past," and they have been patting you on the

back as to your fairness in the past, and

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-5they don't think you are going to be brutal

in this. I had a lot of calls yesterday.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I understand this now.

Bell:

I told them that they would just have to
keep their shirts on for a couple of days,
and I thought the situation would be clarified
by Monday. I told them you usually gave out
some information as to what we were thinking about before a financing, and you certainly would do that again Monday.

(Mrs. Klotz entered the conference.)
H.M.Jr:

Did you (Morris) get any calls?

Morris:

No, I didn't.

H.M.Jr:

All right. We will go into the next meeting.

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THE UNDER SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

October 16, 1941
TO THE SECRETARY:

Subject: The November and December 1 - March 1
Financing Program

November financing

The following is the amount of financing which
was contemplated for the month of November:

Maturities
RFC

U.S. Housing

$300,000,000* $500,000,000 $

Authority

112,000,000*

Corporation

204,000,000**

Commodity Credit

Total

New Cash

150,000,000
-

800,000,000
262,000,000
204,000,000

$616,000,000 $650,000,000 $1,266,000,000
Maturing November 1. **Maturing November 15.

In view of the long policy of the Treasury in
granting exchange privileges, we definitely feel that
"rights" should not be entirely eliminated at this time.
We believe, therefore, that to keep faith with the market
some provision should be made for allowing the holders

of the maturing obligations of the Reconstruction
Finance Corporation and Commodity Credit Corporation

to exchange their holdings, at least in part, for any

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other securities offered. At the time the obligations
of the U. S. Housing Authority were issued, it was
intimated by the Treasury that they might be paid off
in cash at maturity. For this reason they have practically no "right" value attached to them, and they may,
therefore, be paid off and no exchange privilege
granted.

To provide for the refunding of the Reconstruction
Finance Corporation and Commodity Credit Corporation

maturities and the additional cash required between
now and December 15th, we suggest the following for
consideration:

(1) Offer a new Treasury security for $400M cash,
and in addition offer the holders of the
RFC and CCC maturing obligations the

privilege of exchanging them for the new
securities offered up to 50% of their
holdings, and pay off the USHA maturing
obligations amounting to $112M in cash.
This would require cash of $264M to meet

maturities which was not contemplated in

our cash position estimates, although we
will get about $300M more on the recent
bond issue than provided for in these

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estimates. To follow up the policy
agreed upon at yesterday's luncheon
conference, begin on October 22nd to

issue $50M additional bills a week. By
January 14th we would have completed the

13 weeks and raised $650M additional funds.

The total bills then outstanding would be
$1,950M, at which time we could consider

as to whether we wanted to go on at the
rate of additional $50M a week to a total
of $2,600M.

(2) Reopen an outstanding Treasury taxable note
for cash in the amount of $400M and exchange

along lines of (1) above. For example, the
3/4% note maturing March 15, 1943, selling
at about 100 25 - 27 would serve this purpose,
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although selling a little high.
(3) Either (1) or (2) with full exchange privileges.
In either case additional Treasury bills
should begin October 22nd.

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December 1 to March 1 financing

Maturities
Treasury .$
RFC

FFMC

New Cash

Total

426,000,000* $2,500,000,000
350,000,000
310,000,000**

$2,926,000,000
660,000,000

$2,850,000,000

$3,926,000,000

340,000,000*

$1,076,000,000

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340,000,000

Maturing March 15
Maturing January 15
$236M callable January 15 and $104M callable March 1

Our cash position estimates contemplate raising
new money for the Treasury of $1,500M on December 15

and $1,000M on February 1. Ordinarily we would refund
on December 15 the March maturities amounting to

$426,000,000. Our estimates also contemplated raising
additional money in January in the amount of $350,000,000

for the RFC and refunding its maturities of $310,000,000,
and also refunding the issues of the FFMC amounting to
$236,000,000 callable January 15, and $104,000,000
callable March 1.
The following are suggested for consideration in
connection with the December and January financing
operations, subject to change however depending upon

what plan is adopted for the November financing:

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(1) a. Offer a Treasury bond on December 15
for $1,500M in cash, and in addition,
refund the Treasury note of $426M
maturing March 15: (b) Offer a new

Treasury note in January for refunding
the RFC maturity of $310M, and the two
callable issues of FFMC aggregating
$339M, or a total of $649M; or (c)
Under (b) raise in January $450M in cash
and grant exchange privilege on a 50%
basis.

(2) a. Offer a Treasury bond on December 15
for $1,500M in cash only; (b) Then in

January offer a Treasury security in
exchange for Treasury, RFC, and FFMC

maturities; or (c) Under (b) offer
Treasury security for cash of $450M
and grant exchange privilege on a 50%

basis for agency maturities. (This
also assumes a bill program of at least
$50M a week for 13 weeks.)

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(3) In view of the fact that it will be
necessary to raise additional cash early
in February, probably in the amount of
$1,000M or more, the $104M issue of FFMC

callable March 1 and the $426M Treasury

issue maturing March 15 could be refunded

into whatever issue is offered at that time.

AWB
DAMP

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October 17, 1941
9:30 a.m.

GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Haas

Mr. Morris
Mr. Bell
Mrs. Klotz
Mr. Buffington
Mr. Barnard

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Schwarz

Mr. Foley
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Gaston
Mr. Graves
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Odegard
Mr. Coe

In this morning's Wall Street Journal the

o

H.M.Jr:

SEC seeks to remove tax law discrimination in

favor of bond debt. Are you familiar with the
study they are making?

Sullivan:

No. There are two or three other things we
are going over with them. That represents a
problem we have been working on ourselves.

H.M.Jr:

Well, don't you think that they might say
something to us before they give it out?

Sullivan:

Yes, I do. As a matter of fact, they shouldn't
be giving any of it out.

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-2H.M.Jr:

Well, it is Purcell, I think, who made a speech on

it. The only way to talk to the fellows is to
call them up and say, "Well, do you think that
this is very nice?"

Sullivan:

He is a pretty good fellow. He has always

Foley:

They haven't got very much to do over there

cooperated with us. I will read this.

now. (Laughter) They are like the Federal
Reserve Board.

H.M.Jr:

Really?

Foley:

That is right. They are looking for something

H.M.Jr:

Well, why don't they do a job on the utilities?

Foley:

Well, they are doing that.

H.M.Jr:

Without taking ten years to do it, I mean.

to do.

How about Ambassador Winant's cable?

Bell:

I have it here, Mr. Secretary. That was handled

before by Mr. White and Mr. Coe and we think

H.M.Jr:

you answered it, but I don't see any objection
to sending another cable saying that we will
back him up in the position he takes.
Is that a cable?

Bell:

Yes, sir. You just initial it and I will see
that it goes out.

H.M.Jr:

Bell:

O.K.

It is just for the record. It really doesn't

mean an answer.
Thompson:

Here is a memorandum on Frazier and Coffren, your
two chauffeurs.

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H.M.Jr:

The reason is, Frazier thinks the evening

Thompson:

Well, that is a little bad news in there.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, I didn't read it. When do they have to

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job is a little better.

change it?

Thompson:

On the first of January.

H.M.Jr:

It is a nice Christmas present, isn't it? He

has got to go back from two thousand to sixteen
hundred. Nothing you can do?
Thompson:

We have argued it out and argued it out. They
don't have a higher grade for any cabinet

officer.

Klotz:

They knew that, though.

Thompson:

Oh, yes, they knew it.

H.M.Jr:

I think I would tell it to him now.

Thompson:

I had been planning to do that. I am having a

rather complete survey made of the Mail Depart-

ment. Up in Foreign Funds it is probably the
worst spot but steps are being taken.
H.M.Jr:

I didn't hear very well. Would you mind
repeating that? (Facetiously)

Thompson:

Foreign Funds. I might say, in fairness to
them, they have reached the saturation point in

mail and they are doing a good job.
H.M.Jr:

Did you say they are setting an example for the
Department?

Thompson:

Mr. Bell also has beaten me to the gun down in
Loans and Currency. He had already taken steps
about three weeks ago to improve conditions
there but I am having a check made all around.

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I think every four years ought to be time for

a little dusting off.

Thompson:

I think the delay now is because the saturation
point has been reached and there is just tons
of mail coming in.

Bell:

The volume is really terrific now.

Thompson:

I know the mail on my own desk is about a four

H.M.Jr:

hundred percent increase. But I will have a
report for you on that.

This is apropos of what you told me yesterday

of some letters I have been getting. I think

somebody ought to decide how often we go to

these Defense Bond lists. I got a mean letter

yesterday from a man that ought to know better,
about how he had gotten two letters. Max Farrand.
Kuhn:

I prepared a mean reply, Mr. Secretary. It was
a very nasty letter and the only one of its
kind that I have seen. All the other people
are delighted to get these letters from you.

H.M.Jr:

But the point I am making, let's take the
United States Savings Bond list. I don't

think that we should circularize that - well,

certainly not more than once a month, and I

think if we circularize it --

Kuhn:

We don't. We can't.

H.M.Jr:

Well, once in two months. Now Buffington has

it in mind, you see.

Kuhn:

But it is physically impossible to do the turnover of so many millions.

H.M.Jr:

I am just raising the question. I don't know
how often it is done, but I think, Harold, you

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ought to be controller on that. I think

there is a limit to how many times you can

go to a list like that.
Kuhn:

His complaint was that he got two of the same

Bell:

You see, his name is in the file twice. They
have taken it from different places, and there
is a constant study of that list to eliminate

letter.

duplications, but when you have got seven

million names, it is impossible to eliminate
all duplications.
H.M.Jr:

While I am on that, could you give me a report

Monday on how far along you are with the
mailing of my Boston speech?
Kuhn:

Well, Norman knows that already.

Thompson:

They have completed the mailing to the extent

of available copies of the speech. They ran
out of copies. Over two million copies have

gone out.
H.M.Jr:

Don't you think that is enough?

Thompson:

There are three or four hundred thousand more

to go and they just reported yesterday that they
would have to get that additional number of
speeches to complete the list.
H.M.Jr:

Do you think you want to do that? Do you want

Kuhn:

The requests are coming in all the time, Mr.
Secretary. I have never seen anything hold up

to do it?

so long.

Thompson:

I haven't gotten my copy yet.

Odegard:

Wasn't the Max Farrand duplication due to the

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fact that is name appeared on the lists of
two of those learned societies?
H.M.Jr:

I am not bothered by it. It is just those

kind of letters which they bring to me which just
raises some of these things, and having talked

with Buffington yesterday and knowing that he

had this thing in mind, I am taking a little

unfair advantage. He shouldn't come and tell
me what he is thinking of doing. It made me
wonder how much we go to those lists.

Kuhn:

Mr. Secretary, on the Boston speech Mrs. Forbush

upstairs gets requests for about twenty-five
hundred - I think almost twenty-five hundred a

week, in addition to what the Defense Savings
people get.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

Kuhn:

And it keeps coming and Harry Hopkins wants us

to send it to all high schools.

H.M.Jr:

Really? Harry Hopkins?

Kuhn:

Yes. He transmitted a request or a suggestion.
I don't know how you feel about that.

Thompson:

It is a good place for it, I think.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I will leave that to you people. Professor
Odegard can decide whether it is fit and clean,

and so forth, for high school children. (Laughter)

How about something nice for Mrs. Lewisohn?
Kuhn:

I handed it in at 9:10. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

That is all right. Did you have a time stamp
put on it.

Kuhn:

Would you like one?

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Bell:

He can fix that too.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else, Norman?

Thompson:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

21

All right. I am just telling you on the
record, I think it is a very healthy thing,
this check-up. My office may get a little
unpopular, but the only way to keep us from
getting after you is to do it before the
memo comes.

Bell:

I have this --

H.M.Jr:

We are just going to keep after you people,

and it is the only way I can get the stuff;
and if I get the service so we don't have to
check up, I am sure we will all be delighted.
The other point, Mrs. Klotz says, when you
people do give me a report on something, could
we have a little memorandum in writing so

that they can close out our books on it, you
see. I mean, you may stop by and say, Well,
I have done this," but there is no way that
the girls know.

Klotz:
H.M.Jr:

It makes it difficult.
So if you would, when you run back, stop a

minute and confirm it in writing, then they
can close it out.

Bell:

I find they usually check up.

H.M.Jr:

It is all right. She has got a good organization.
It keeps you people on your toes.

Klotz:

It is a nuisance, I know.

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Bell:

No, it is all right.

H.M.Jr:

If they don't like it they can beat the memo,
and then you don't get any. But a confirmation
of any verbal thing, please.

Bell:

I have this memo that the Chinese Ambassador
gave you about having someone from the Federal
Reserve Bank go over there and study their

central bank, one. Two, whether Fox could serve
as an advisor to the Chinese Treasury. Do you

mind if I talk to Eccles on it?
H.M.Jr:

No.

Bell:

I think we can prepare a cable on two and say

H.M.Jr:

we have no objection if it isn't burdensome to
Fox. I expect it is largely honorary, anyhow.
Well, if you and Coe would work it out.

Bell:

Yes, we will.

H.M.Jr:

Can I forget it?

Bell:

Yes. Well, we ought to have a letter, probably.
All right. I think we should let the Ambassador

H.M.Jr:

know it.

Bell:

Yes, I think so too.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Bell:

Yes. Mr. McGoldrick from New York wants to
come down Monday and get his twelve and a half

million dollars in obligations, and I think it
is a publicity stunt. He might want a picture
taken of somebody handing them to him. He

said he would like to have a picture of you
handing him the twelve and a half million, and

if not, he would like to have a picture getting

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off the plane back in New York. He says
there is a campaign on. He paid his

money yesterday to the Federal Reserve.
Do you want to do that?
H.M.Jr:

Sure. He is a friend of Peter Odegard's.
(Laughter)

Bell:

Harold Smith called me and gave me some

background of the letter he wrote you on the
state money. He had to do that, he said,

because it was being approached through
another angle to the President by some

governor. It is something they have been
working on for some time with one of the
state treasurers.
Now, the governor got hold of it and he

approached the President and he wanted to

stop that so he wrote to the President also
and he said he wanted to explain it to
you and he understands that this governor

is going to write you a letter. It is the

Governor of Virginia. He wanted you to
know that.

I also have his document that went up

yesterday. It is about twenty-six pages
long.
H.M.Jr:

I will take it to the country with me.
I will most likely light the fire with
it.

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- 10 Bell:

Well, it is interesting reading, but

doesn't give much consolation to the
committee, certainly, on '42 expenditures.

Could Mr. Buffington and I have
a few minutes today to discuss this tax
note thing?
Sullivan:

I would like to be here when that is dis-

cussed, too.

H.M.Jr:

Sure.

Buffington:

Mr. Secretary, could we do that as late in

H.M.Jr:

Yes, you can do it right late. You can
do it about two o'clock (laughter). We

the afternoon as possible?

will say two fifteen. That will be the

deadline.
Bell:

I would like to do it before. I have a
luncheon engagement with the Hungarian

Minister.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I can't do it before.

Buffington:

I won't be prepared before two fifteen.

H.M.Jr:

This will be the last appointment of the
day anyway.

Pell:

I wanted to get something before he went
away.

H.M.Jr:

Two fifteen. All right, Dan?

Bell:

Yes, sir.

Coe:

I gave Bewley the Russian information. He

wanted to apologize for the fact that

24

- 10 Bell:

Well, it is interesting reading, but

doesn't give much consolation to the
committee, certainly, on '42 expenditures.
Could Mr. Buffington and I have
a few minutes today to discuss this tax
note thing?

Sullivan:

I would like to be here when that is dis-

cussed, too.

H.M.Jr:

Sure.

Buffington:

Mr. Secretary, could we do that as late in

H.M.Jr:

Yes, you can do it right late. You can
do it about two o'clock (laughter). We

the afternoon as possible?

will say two fifteen. That will be the
deadline.

Bell:

I would like to do it before. I have a
luncheon engagement with the Hungarian

Minister.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I can't do it before.

Buffington:

I won't be prepared before two fifteen.

H.M.Jr:

This will be the last appointment of the
day anyway.

Bell:

I wanted to get something before he went
away.

H.M.Jr:

Two fifteen. All right, Dan?

Bell:

Yes, sir.

Coe:

I gave Bewley the Russian information. He

wanted to apologize for the fact that

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Halifax hadn't told the Treasury people
what Bewley told Halifax, for bothering
you.

H.M.Jr:
Coe:

Tell him I don't accept his apologies and

I don't think it is necessary.

We have got information that South Africa is
selling more gold to Britain. For some time
they have been accumulating a lot. Now
it is going down again.

H.M.Jr:

That was this morning's paper?

Coe:

That is this morning's. That is all.

Buffington:

I have nothing.

Schwarz:

Felix Belair called and asked if you would
say a word of tribute for the return of the
March of Time program to the air. He said
he spoke to you about it.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know which is the correct pronun-

Schwarz:

He said now we were in the radio business.

ciation, nertz or nuts.

I told him we weren't giving out testimonials.

H.M.Jr:

You can take your choice. I can't spell.

Schwarz:

I paved the way for that.

H.M.Jr:

Felix Belair's boss came in. He was going
to let me hear from him about putting on
fifteen minutes for us in connection vi th
Life, and I have never had any answer.

But that is neither here nor there. All
right?

Schwarz:

Yes.

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H.M.Jr:

George?

Haas:

(Handing reports to Secretary) Mr. Secretary, you probably noticed that there are

very sharp breaks in the commodity market
yesterday. The Dow Jones average had the
sharpest daily break since it was computed

in '33, and the ones that broke sharpest were
the ones where the commodities were inflated,

like grains and fats and oils, but all of
them shared in the decline. Wheat went down
the limit, ten cents.

H.M.Jr:

Peter?

Odegard:

1 have nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Harold?

Graves:

We are all clear in Delaware. As luck would
have it, we got a letter from Governor Buck
yesterday saying that on account of bad
health he would not be able to accept the
chairmanship of that state.

H.M.Jr:

Wonderful. Who is the Senator, Hughes?

Graves:

Hughes is the Senator who called you.

H.M.Jr:

Fine.

Graves:

I think when you talk to Hughes it would be

well to put it on that ground, that Buck
finally declined.

H.M.Jr:

Now, Harold (laughter).

Graves:

Because we have got to go in there again
and make an effort to induce somebody else

to take this job. I suppose you won't want
to call on Hughes.

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- 13 H.M.Jr:

I am not going to.

Graves:

We have now got our chairmen and administra-

tors and deputy administrators in both

North and South Dakota, and the governors

of both of those states have agreed to
accept honarary chairmanships of our organizations. They both were quite friendly and
favorable to this program.

H.M.Jr:

Now let me see, that just leaves you New
Orleans and New Hampshire?

Sullivan:

Oh, boy, I have got a star for you up there

H.M.Jr:

I said to Harold, "Well, Harold, why don't

(laughter).

you do something about New Hampshire?"

"Well now, Mr. Morgenthau, can't I leave

the least until the last?" He said, "It
is so insignificant" (laughter).
Sullivan:

We have the first presidential primary, don't

H.M.Jr:

That is about fifty per cent correct.

Sullivan:

I have got a star for you. William J.

Graves:

forget.

Starr.

This might be interesting to you. Our

people who have been in North and South

Dakota say that there is no following for
Senator Nye or for the isolationist group
in those states.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to do an extra good job in

Graves:

We are doing a good job already in Montana.
We have been organized there for three months

North Dakota and Montana.

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and it is working well. I think we will
do a good job in North Dakota.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

What else, Harold?
Graves:

That is all.

Barnard:

Nothing.

Kuhn:

Nothing.

Morris:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

You and I are going to get together Monday?

Barnard:

Yes.

Sullivan:

That sounds like a pretty close corporation,

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Dan (laughter). Junior (Foley) and I ran
across a bad situation -Junior? (Laughter).

.... in Brooklyn. There is a fellow up

there that the Internal Revenue men have

been after, an Austrian national, who
apparently bought himself a job as a

consular representative of Paraguay and

acquired diplomatic status. He was in
trouble with us on income taxes.

H.M.Jr:

What is his name?

Sullivan:

Faringer.

H.M.Jr:

That is Sam Klaus.

Gaston:

Yes.

Sullivan:

That is right. And Wednesday he blew into

29

- 15 town with one attorney to see us on

taxes and the Collector of Internal

Revenue in Brooklyn representing him
before the State Department to prevent

his being put out of the country.
That brings up the old, old problem as to
whether or not collectors of Internal
Revenue shall continue to practice law
or engage in their own business.

H.M.Jr:

Good heavens, there is a succession

Sullivan:

Well, apparently more than half of them

of orders in Internal Revenue which I
got out at the time I was having my fight
with Senator Bulkley in Ohio.

are still in business, and I think as

soon as Mr. Helvering comes back we had

better take that up.
H.M.Jr:

If there ever were stiff regulations, they
were written at that time. You (Graves)
were in on that at that time.

Foley:

They have never been put into effect.

Graves:

I don't remember that specific thing, but
I was in on the --

H.M.Jr:

I mean that whole liquor case with the

Graves:

All that was done as a result of that was
to issue a regulation or renew an old
regulation absolutely prohibiting any

collector and all that.

employee in Revenue to have any Interest

in the liquor business, or, as I recall,
tobacco business or any other business

that was subject to supervision by the
Bureau of Internal Revenue. I think our
orders then went no further than that.

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Foley:

It is something that ought to have attention,
Mr. Secretary.

(The Secretary held a telephone conversation
with Senator Hughes).
H.M.Jr:

All right?

Klotz:

You didn't give him a chance. That was

Gaston:

He says, "Ha, ha, that is too bad."

Foley:

I think you ought to do it, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Foley:

marvelous.

I think you ought to clear it with him.
Yes, I do, really. I think this is wrong.
I really do. I feel quite strongly about

it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I feel quite strongly about it, too.
We can't start it. Have a talk with Harold.
He is a nice soft gentle fellow.

Foley:

I know, but to get a Republican fellow in

a state who may run against a United States
Senator, and set him up as the head of an

organization in a state, I think that is

wrong.

H.M.Jr:

Granted, but that doesn't mean at this stage
of the game where we have got everything

straightened out but New Hampshire, that I

am going to let the political bosses

appoint the people. We have gone through

this whole thing without consulting the
Senators. If we start now, where does
that leave us?

We have done the whole job. As far as I

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- 17 know, this is the only complaint I have had

on forty-eight states, and I think that is

a great compliment to Harold Graves. It is
a great compliment. Now, my heavens,

if he makes one mistake in forty-eight

he is better than I am. He is the only
Senator that has called us.

Foley:

This is the only one I have heard about,

H.M.Jr:

I think he has done an amazing job to set
up a non-political organization. We have

but it is a bad situation.

got Willkie Democrats and we have got
Willkie Republicans, and we have got all

kinds. Just as long as their heart is
in the right place and they want to lick
Hitler, they are all right with me. This
is the only complaint.

Bell:

I don't think you will get the cooperation
of the community if you start to make the
appointment, politically.

H.M.Jr:

No. I think Harold has done an amazing
job. The purpose of the meeting is to exchange
opinions. Don't you, on second thought, think
so?

Foley:

This is the only case I have heard of, Mr.
Secretary, and it seems to me that is
awfully raw.

H.M.Jrs

Well, it is the only one that there has
been. All right. Where were we?

Sullivan:

Brooklyn.

H.M.Jr:

Well, can't we get out of Brooklyn?

Sullivan:

I think as soon as Commissioner Helvering
returns, we ought to.

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- 18 H.M.Jr:

O.K. Incidentally, I have been making a

little fun about Sammy Klaus. He wrote me
a four or five page report on what he has
been doing, and it is perfectly amazing

what that fellow has done. It is an amazing
report.

foley:

He is not modest.

Gaston:

He has done a lot of good stuff.

Foley:
H.M.Jr:

He is not modest (laughter). I'll bet
I could take the report and ....
Well, you will get a chance at it. All

Sullivan:

Yes.

Foley:

I have nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Hell, he is your assistant.

Foley:

Oh, yes? (Laughter).

Sullivan:

That is one of those compromises like I had

right?

on Blough.
Foley:

Well, don't rub it in.

H.M.Jr:

Assistant to the General Counsel, on your

Foley:

payroll. You ought to be proud. You ought
to say, "Well, he is one of my boys."
I would if he was.

H.M.Jr:

What else, Ed?

Foley:

Nothing.

Gaston:

I promised to bring to you the inquiry of
the American Federation of Labor as to

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whether or not it would be possible to lift
the limit with respect to the purchase
of Savings Bonds from union funds. That

was just after I had gotten through explaining that we didn't want the union funds
invested in Savings Bonds. So I am merely

H.M.Jr:

reporting that inquiry to you for the record.
Well, the President of the Teamsters' Union,

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

But you have reported it anyway.

Gaston:

That is right. I have here a proposed

Tobin, he has been downright nasty about it.

Executive Order which would permit the
Commandant of the Coast Guard, on the

approval of the Secretary of the Treasury,
to put Coast Guard personnel ashore to

protect vital facilities, shore structures and so on. I think it is a desirable
thing to have in case of an emergency. We
have discussed it at some length.
H.M.Jr:

How about the Navy? How do they feel about
it?

Gaston:

It is all right with them.

H.M.Jr:

Is there anything to show it is?

Gaston:

There is nothing here to show it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, had you better get something?

Gaston:

I will get something.

H.M.Jr:

I will sign it, not to hold it up.

Gaston:

This is a letter to the President through
the Director of the Budget. I will get

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something definite in writing from the
Navy.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Gaston:

No, I think that is all.

H.M.Jr:

There was some Pittsburgh labor union wanted

me to speak. I handed it to you (Kuhn) to
prepare an answer.

Kuhn:

Pittsburgh labor union?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, they came in here. A longhand memo.

Kuhn:

You spoke to Fitzgerald yesterday about it?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Kuhn:

Yes, I have it.

H.M.Jr:

You are taking care of it?

Kuhn:

You can't do that. I think he told them

H.M.Jr:

Well, you had better write it. I don't

that you couldn't.
know, i f anybody has not seen the March of
Time picture on Norway, we are going to show

it immediately now downstairs, if anybody

Gaston:

would care to come down, he is invited. It
is immediately below this room here. It is
the March of Time, Norway picture. It will
be shown in sixty seconds downstairs, if
anybody would like to see it.
One other little thing, we are discussing
a complicated matter of Cox and Gibbs, the

naval architects, for design of an ice ship.
I don't know whether you are interested or
not.

H.M.Jr:

No.

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October 17, 1941
9:54 a.m.
HMJr:

Senator

Hello.

Hughes:

Hello, Mr. Secretary. How are you this

HMJr:

I'm fine. How are you, Senator?

morning?

Not so very good.
HMJr:

Oh, you're not feeling well?

I haven't been feeling well for several days.
HMJr:

I'm sorry.

H:

I'm over home.

HMJr:

H:

Well, Senator, the question about appointing
Buck has taken care of itself
Yes.

because he's not well enough.

HMJr:
H:

Huh?

HMJr:

He has heart trouble.

H:

Oh, has he?

HMJr:

So I understand.

H:

(Laughs) I don't know about that. I hadn't
heard that. That's too bad. That's getting
to be too prevalent.

HMJr:

H:

HMJr:

Well, anyway that situation is solved; and

while I'm very sorry that Mr. Buck is ill
Yes, I feel very sorry.
I'm glad to be able to do what you

wanted.

-2H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

So we're looking around for somebody else.

H:

Very good. I'11 be back at Washington on

Monday.
HMJr:
H:

HMJr:
H:

Right. I hope you'll be feeling better.
Thank you very much. Hope you're well.
Take care of yourself.

All right.

HMJr:

Good-bye.

H:

Thank you.

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37
October 17, 1941
12:01 p.m.

Lt. Sinton's
Secretary:

Hello.

HMJr:

Sinton?

S:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

What are the prospects for flying this

S:

afternoon?

They're good, sir. We will have north winds,
possibly twenty miles per hour, and a few
clouds at three to five thousand feet; but
the weather will be good.

HMJr:

S:

HMJr:
S:

Well, the earliest that I can take off now
is two-thirty.
Two-thirty.

That'll be the earliest.
Yes, sir. Well, we can - the deadline should
be three-thirty.

HMJr:

The deadline should be three-thirty?

S:

Yes, sir.

HMJr:

S:

HMJr:

Well, I won't crowd you, but the earliest
that I can get over to the port would be twothirty.
Yes, sir. That'11 be Washington National.
That's right.

S:

All right, sir. We'll be ready.

HMJr:

Thank you.

S:

Good-bye, sir.

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38

12:05 p.m.

HMJr:
Mr.

Hello.

Stoessel:

Good morning, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

How are you?

S:

All right, thank you.

HMJr:

S:

HMJr:

I think you know the Werner Jostens very

well.
Yes.

I don't know whether you know he happens to
be my brother-in-law.

S:

Yes, I do.

HMJr:

Mr. Stoessel, the reason I'm calling you is
this. You may or may not know that we have
three radio programs a week - the Treasury

does.
S:

Yes.

HMJr:

And on Saturday over WOR each week we have -

Alfred Wallenstein does the programs for us,
and Deems Taylor is the commentator. Well,
frankly I have been disappointed because I

just don't think that the music is sufficiently
in tune with the times. In other words, a nonmusician, it seems to me that the radio audience,
that we could give them a little bit more exciting

music. See?
S:

Yes.

HMJr:

And what I'd like to do is - if you felt you

S:

Well, I should be very glad to give it to you,

could do it - would be just send you in advance
the programs that they're proposing to do and
then get your criticisms.

Mr. Secretary.

-2HMJr:

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See? Now, I have on my desk here, for instance,
the program for October 25th, what they propose

to do. I don't know whether, you know, it's
something - whether it's the kind of music that
we ought to be doing in these times or not. I
mean, there's so much music that gets people
aroused and makes them a little bit - feel
patriotic - but on this particular program we've
only been using foreign artists - foreign-born
artists - I mean it's dedicated to that, you see.
But a lot of this foreign composed music is
exciting, and I don't think we've been putting
that kind of programs on the air.

What I'd like to do, if I could, would be to
put in air mail a list of what we have been doing
to give you an idea.

S:

Yes.

HMJr:

And then what we propose to do October 25th.

S:

Fine.

HMJr:

And would it be rushing you too much to have
an answer by Monday morning?

S:

I'd be very glad to send it to you, sir.

HMJr:

Well, that - and could I do that each week?

S:

Yes, I'd be very happy to.

HMJr:

And then possibly I'd arrange maybe - would it
be possible, for instance, for you to come down
here and spend an evening with me next week and

we could go into it in greater detail?

S:

A week from tomorrow?

HMJr:

Well, any - no, sometime during the week.

S:

HMJr:

Oh, sometime during the week. Yes, any time
that would suit your convenience.

Well, I'11 get in touch with you again Monday

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and find out.
S:

Yes, sir. Do you have my home address?

HMJr:

No, I don' I t.

That's 14 East 90.
Fourteen
S:

Fourteen East Ninetieth.
East Ninetieth.

HMJr:
S:

And the telephone is Atwater 95358.

HMJr:

Telephone Atwater

S:

Nine

HMJr:

Nine

S:

HMJr:

five three five eight.
five three five eight. Well now, this

will go out immediately and it ought to be
delivered to your home tonight or tomorrow
morning.

S:

HMJr:

Yes, sir.
And then if I could, say - you get something
what I have in mind.

S:

Yes, I have an idea.

HMJr:

And I think if you see what we've done and

S:

Well, I'll do the best I can about it.

HMJr:

That's all anybody can ask. Thank you.

S:

Thank you for calling.

what we propose to do, I think - well, at
least you'll see why I'm disappointed.

41
OFFICIAL

OCT. 17,1941
MR. ALBERT STOESSEL

JUILLARD SCHOOL OF MUSIC

130 CLAREMONT AVENUE NEW YORK, N.Y.
ON SECOND THOUGHT BEFORE SENDING THE MATERIAL I WANT AN

OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT WITH MR. DEEMS TAYLOR AND MAKE

SURE THAT IT IS AGREEABLE TO HIM
HENRY MORGENTHAU JR

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The Secretary

Admiral Waesche is planning to

leave tonight by train for San
Francisco, where he is to xitzaxx

attend the American Merchant Marine
Congress and to address it on Wednesday

also to look into harbor protection xxt
matters. He will return via St. Louis
for KK a Mississippi River transporta#t
tion meeting and be back in Washington
Wednesday, Oct. 29. I agreed to this

plan bebre I left for Seattle and he

will go ahead according to plan unless
you object. He will be in continuous
contact with headquarters and can be
recalled by plane at any time.

Vit
FROM: MR. GASTON

43
October 17, 1941
12:32 p.m.
Operator:

He stepped out of his office. I'll have him

HMJr:

Oh, for God's sake. Where is he, Miss?

Operator:

She said he was just out in the hall and he's

HMJr:

Get him. Get him.

Operator:

All right.

HMJr:

Herbert

in just a moment.

coming back.

Herbert
Gaston:
HMJr:

Yes.

I'm sorry, I disagree with you. This

is no time for Waesche to be outside of
Washington. Do you know that there was a
torpedo - a destroyer was torpedoed this
morning?

G:

I - yes, that's true. Yes, I hadn't thought

of it in this

HMJr:

No, I'm sorry. I want Waesche here.

G:

All right.

HMJr:

I positively don't want him out of Washington.

G:

Yes.

HMJr:

I mean, this is no time for him to be touring
the country.

G:

Yes. He discussed it with me - oh, it's a
month ago.

HMJr:

Well, times have changed, and he should stay
here.

G:

Yes.

2HMJr:

All right, then. Keep his organization on

G:

Yes, right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

G:

Okay.

a twenty-four hour basis.

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45

ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

October 17, 1941.
MEMORANDUM

TO:

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM: Mr. Gaston

Jim Rowe called me today to tell
me that the President disapproved the
appointment by O.P.M. of William A.
Parker, whom the Bureau detected in an

attempted tax fraud in 1937.

pay

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October 17, 1941
2:15 p.m.

RE TAX ANTICIPATION NOTES

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Morris
Mr. Buffington
Mr. Barnard

Mr. Odegard
Mr. Kuhn

Buffington:

In order that tax payers may know what their

tax liability is going to be annually this

year and what it was last year, and to show
them accurately what monthly savings will
be required to pay their income taxes, we
plan to send out a circular to the demand

depositors. It is the only record which we
have. It will go to approximately twentyfive million people, represented by all
of the banks in the United States. This
pamphlet, in order that they can insert it

in the monthly statement of accounts to customers. The first page carries a message
from the Secretary of the Treasury, and then
the following pages show, beginning with a
single person with no dependents, and continuing
through to a married person with three dependents,
what their taxes were last year, what they
are this year, payments they will have to make
next year on this year's income, and the
monthly savings necessary, and on the back
we have put a short message headed, "Start
saving now to make tax payments easier," and

in the center, "Consult your bank about
Tax Savings Notes."

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-2We are not giving the taxpayer much infor-

mation about the Notes, feeling that all
commercial banks have the official circular

on file, but rather trying first to make the
taxpaper conscious of what his problem is.

Once he is conscious of that, we will try
to get him to go to a bank to secure detailed
information about the plan. I have the
proposed letter which I think everyone has
looked over, which we would like to have the
Secretary consider.

H.M.Jr:

When you say "everybody", who has seen this?

Buffington:

Mr. Broughton, Mr. Kilby, Mr. Kuhn, Mr.
Graves, Mr. Bell, Mr. Sullivan, Tax Research.

H.M.Jr:

Has Odegard seen it?

Buffington:

Not in this last form. He has seen it up
until the last changes that I made.

H.M.Jr:

Have you seen it, Barnard?

Barnard:

No.

Buffington:

I am sorry, I didn't prepare enough copies.
I didn't know how many were going to be

present.
H.M.Jr:

"We in America have decided upon an 'all-

out' defense program that will require 'allout' taxation. Our eyes are wide open to
the sacrifices we shall all have to make
in the next few years for the sake of our
country's defense. Through our representa-

tives in Congress we have expressed our

preference for paying as much as possible of
the cost of defense out of current earnings.
"Accordingly, our Federal income taxes have

been increased so sharply that they will fall

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-3heavily upon millions of individual budgets

next year."

I don't like that "so sharply".
Sullivan:

All right, go ahead.

Buffington:

You used somewhat similar phrasing, I

H.M.Jr:

Buffington:
Bell:

thought, in a previous letter of July 28.
It wasn't as strong as that.

I don't like the "so sharp".
I have prepared the letter with and without
that paragraph. I have another copy.

Sullivan objects to that paragraph for

other reasons.

H.M.Jr:

He objects to this letter?

Buffington:

No, he objects to the one that has just

Sullivan:

That one paragraph.

H.M.Jr:

"We in America have decided upon an 'all-

been read.

out' defense program that will require an

'all-out' taxation. Our eyes are wide open
to the sacrifices we shall all have to make
in the next few years for the sake of our
country's defense. Through our representatives in Congress we have expressed our

preference If --

(Mr. Odegard entered the conference).
H.M.Jr:

Peter, would you come in and sit down?

I am doing a rush job which I would like
you to take a look at before it goes out.
This is the thing to acquaint the country
with what the tax program is. The other

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-4people have seen it, but you haven't seen it,

but it is very important that you do see it,
you see. I will start again.
Odegard:

H.M.Jr:

I am sorry.

I didn't let you know. It is my fault. And
I didn't tell Buffington to see you, so it
is entirely on me.

Buffington:

I did see you once, Mr. Odegard. You have

seen it in one form, but not in this final

form.

H.M.Jr:

When I leave here, these gentlemen can go over

this if I haven't got the time to polish
it up.

"We in America have decided upon an 'all-

out' defense program that will require 'allout' taxation. Our eyes are wide open to
the sacrifices we shall all have to make in
the next few years for the sake of our
country's defense. Through our representa-

tives in Congress we have expressed our
preference for paying as much as possible

of the cost of defense out of current
earnings.

"Accordingly, our Federal income taxes have

been increased so sharply that they will

fall heavily upon millions of individual

budgets next year. These increases are
going to be hard to meet unless we all make
definite plans for accumulating tax payments well before they are due.
"Your Government, therefore, is anxious that
each taxpayer know as promptly and as accur-

ately as possible what his income tax bill
will be. As a service to the taxpayers, I

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-5have had prepared the following tables
showing what you will have to pay in the

coming year, and how much of your monthly

income you should set aside regularly for
tax payments.

"Tax Savings Notes are now being sold by
the Treasury because thousands of citizens
have already asked for a plan to enable
them to save money systematically and con-

veniently for this purpose. When you study

the attached tables you will, I think,

see the usefulness of these Treasury Notes
in helping you to meet your own tax payments

next year. I am sure that your neighborhood
bank will be glad". and so forth.
My horseback opinion is that I would leave

out that first paragraph.

Bell:

First?

H.M.Jr:

The first paragraph. I me an, I wouldn't

talk about the 'all-out defense". I would
simply say, "Your Government therefore" -

I mean, I would go into the idea that it is in the rest of the letter, but I
wouldn't talk about "all-out defense" or
"all-out taxation" and the sacrifices, and
so forth. I think it immediately sets up a
resistance. Take a look at that, Peter. I
think it immediately sets up a resistance.
"We are coming to you, gentler men, and here

in the first place is what we want to tell
you, what it is. This is an easy way for

you to figure your taxes and second, here
is a suggested method of setting aside
something each month out of current earnings

to meet next year's tax bill." But my
reaction at first blush is that you hit the

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-6 fellow first in the chin and knock him down
and then you expect him to get up and fight

for you. I am being very blunt.

Now, Odegard may disagree with me. Sullivan

is going to lay an egg in a minute if he

doesn't say something. Don't lay an egg

in the office, Sullivan.

Sullivan:

Everything you said is ancient history to
me. I have been arguing this thing over
and over. We are entirely in accord.

H.M.Jr:

With whom?

Sullivan:

You and I, on everything you have said so

H.M.Jr:

I don't like that "so far".

Sullivan:

That is right. I will help you to continue

far.

to keep pace with me here. In the letter
it shows the taxes you paid this year
and the taxes you paid last year. I don't

see any point in the taxes last year. I
think that is confusing. I further object

to that for the more important reason that
it is emphasizing that we are going up there
to give them a sock.

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan, I am pleased to say we are still

Sullivan:

What is the date?

H.M.Jr:

It isn't the 17th of March. What is St.

Sullivan:

The 17th of March.

Buffington:

Mr. Graves asked me to say for him in this

together.

Patrick's Day?

meeting that he thought if we took out that
tax of last year's it would destroy ninety
per cent of the effectiveness of what we
were sending out.

-7Barnard:
Odegard:

52

I(Sullivan)
don't agree
with that. I agree with you
on that.
I think, as a general proposition, it is a

bad thing to make anything negative if you can

make it affirmative. That is, people shy away
from the things that - "cost" is a negative
word. "Saving" is a plus word, and so on. I

think it is a good thing to keep it as affirmative as possible.

H.M.Jr:

And so you would do what?

Odegard:

Well, I think that the elimination of the

H.M.Jr:

And leave out last year's.

Odegard:

I would, yes.

H.M.Jr:

How can you make it glaring unless you compare

table showing last year's payments so that
the increase is made very clear would
improve it.

it with something. Oh, I misunderstood you.
I thought you said you wanted to make the
increase glaring.

Odegard:

They will know that anyway.

Sullivan:

That is right. I had one other suggestion,
Mr. Secretary. When this is printed up I
think, as a matter of courtesy, I should
tike it to Mr. Doughton and also to Senator
George, and if he is not here, Senator Connally,
just so they will know before it goes out.
I think this is one of the first direct approaches
we have made to the taxpayers.

Sullivan:

That is all right, but that wouldn't -Not at all.

H.M.Jr:

.... keep him from putting - you are leaving

H.M.Jr:

when, tomorrow?

-8Buffington:

Tomorrow night.

Bell:

John, do you mean the table as amended and

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taking out the column?

Sullivan:

Oh, yes. I mean after it is printed. You

H.M.Jr:

I would go better than that. When your
proof comes off the press Monday, I would
show it to him.

Sullivan:

I think Mr. Buffington says that it has to

just don't want Doughton to--

be printed over this weekend or they can't
print them before the first of November.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I would put - just as soon as he will
give you a proof or a copy, I think you
should go up and show it to them.

Sullivan:

All right, sir.

Buffington:

Dr. Odegard, hasn't this information been
extensively in the newspapers, comparing last

Odegard:

Buffington:

year's tax with this year's tax.
That is right.
Therefore, I can't share Mr. Sullivan's view

or yours, when it has such a tremendous sales

appeal, I feel, to the public. In other

words, what my taxes were last year is behind

me. I have already paid most of it, but now
to see that comparison--

Odegard:

Then why don't you say that? You ought to

have it carried through, you see. You don't
say that in the body of your letter. You
don't say anything about last year's taxes.
You say, "As a service to taxpayers, I have

had prepared the following tables showing
what you will have to pay in the coming year."

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54

I didn't want to repeat. The table speaks

for itself. It is very clear that there is
that
comparison by the heading of those
columns.

Bell:

You
do show it in the little heading at the
top?

Buffington: Yes.
Odegard:

There is a dangerous thing in it, too, that
I don't want to exaggerate, but many people
will look at that and think that that is
what they have to pay. The capacity of
people to misunderstand--

Buffington:

That is true.

Odegard:

.... is almost unlimited, and they will look
at the statement of last year's taxes and
say, "Well, that is what I have got to pay
next year. Countless thousands of them,
and if you keep it out, you avoid that
possibility.

Buffington:

It is a simpler printing job.

H.M.Jr:

Where do you stand on this, Morris?

Morris:

I would make it just as simple as possible.

H.M.Jr:

How about you?

Barnard:

I agree with Mr. Sullivan. If you can do it,

I would stick a sentence somewhere in there

that reads like this: 'When you get your
money, don't forget that it isn't all yours.
Some of it belongs to the Government, and
anticipate payment when it will be due," " or

Buffington:

something to that effect. "It isn't all yours."
I had that sentence. I went so far as to

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say that you must remember income tax has

first claim on your income.
Barnard:

That is too high-brow. That isn't direct
"When you get your money, don't forget
itenough.
is all yours,"
is a lot different than
saying something about income tax payments.
I am not critical, but I am trying to express
myself.

H.M.Jr:

Well, here is what I am saying. I am not
laying down any rules. I would leave off

that first paragraph. I would only talk

about - I would only have one table.
Buffington:

You mean--

Bell:

One column.

Buffington:

....

H.M.Jr:

Monthly and annually, that is all right.

Odegard:

Mr. Secretary, would you leave out the whole

two columns, monthly and annually?

column or couldn't you meet all your obligations by simply having it read, "We in

America have decided upon an all-out defense

program. Through our representatives in

Congress we have expressed our preference

for paying as much as possible of the cost
of defense out of current earnings, and your
government, and so forth."
H.M.Jr:

Do that once more.

(Mr. Kuhn entered the conference.)
Odegard:

It simply leaves out the negative.

H.M.Jr:

Say it once more.

Odegard:

"We in America have decided upon an all-out

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- 11 defense program. Through our representatives
in Congress we have expressed our preference

for paying as much as possible of the cost
of defense out of current earnings. Then
it goes on: "Your Government, therefore, is
anxious, and so forth.'

H.M.Jr:

Well, following what Barnard says, does the
man on the street know what it means, "paying
out of current earnings"? Is that too highfaluting?

Odegard:

Then you could add Mr. Barnards sentence.

Barnard:

I am thinking of a telephone installer. He
gets two thousand dollars a year. He doesn't

get that language, though, and he doesn't
know what you mean by tax liability. What
you have got to pay under the 1941 Act for
these people is what makes sense to them.

Buffington:

Tax Research insisted upon having--

Barnard:

I bet they did. I know damnwell they did.
(Laughter) I don't blame them. So would I

if I were there, but it still doesn't change
the fact that to a telephone installer, "tax
liability" is a big word.
Morris:

But this is going only to people that have
checking accounts.

Barnard:

I have got a suggestion to make there, or a

question. That is your first easy distri-

bution, but there is no reason in the world
why you can't send this, for instance, to

every telephone company in the United States.
There is three hundred thousand employees,

and ask them to distribute it. So will the
steel companies. So will International Busi-

ness Machines. Take all the big ones, not

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to make too big a job, and they will do it for
you, and they will get an awful lot of people
that won't go to the banks. They are not

Morris:

going to ask the banks. Most of these corporations will facilitate getting the information
for these things.
The payroll office.

Barnard:

Yes.

Buffington:

My thought is that this is the first distri-

Sullivan:

You have got twenty-five million of these

Buffington:
Sullivan:

Yes.

bution.

going out?

You are only going to have about twenty-three

million returns next year, so either we are

not firing in the right places--

Buffington:

We had this problem, Mr. Sullivan: The January 1
income tax blanks which will go out, the

envelope is full. You can't get anything in
it. The next mailing of the income tax bills

was going to be - will be December 1 for the
Sullivan:

December 15 bills.
Too late.

Buffington:

The Defense Savings Bonds are sending out

literature at intervals which makes that
difficult, so this seemed to be the best
coverage to hit broadly, and if banks want

to send it out partially, they would still
be available in those banks for public distribution.

Sullivan:

What I mean to say is, you are hitting a very
large proportion of the people who are going

to file income tax returns in this one broadside.

H.M.Jr:

I came back with this idea from Detroit. I

picked it up in Detroit. Let me say this. I

would like to make one other suggestion. "See
your neighborhood bank or write me a letter, or

write the United States Treasury," you see.

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H.M.Jr:

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I had that in before.

But don't make it just the bank. It is a
little bit too much like the aspirin program.
"See your neighborhood drug store".

Odegard:

Had you rejected the idea, Mr. Buffington, of
any mention of the collectors of Internal

Revenue?

Buffington:

Yes, I would stay away from --

Sullivan:

No, Peter, that isn't any good. You have got
sixty-four of them in America. Most of these
people live hundreds of miles from a collector.

Buffington:

I have tried the post office routes and this
seemed to be the best focal point for the

moment that we can get.
H.M.Jr:

But I would like for you to add that you can

see your neighborhood bank or write to the
Treasury of the United States.
Sullivan:

I think that is a good suggestion.

Buffington:

Excellent.

Odegard:

What percentage of the population live within

Sullivan:

Oh, in most states there is just one for the
entire state.

Odegard:

Yes.

Kuhn:

He is in a big city, isn't he, John?

Odegard:

He is usually in a big city and it reaches a
very large number - the reason I suggested it
was because I was impressed in Philadelphia
with it - what I was told by the Collector
of Internal Revenue there, the facilities that
they have for assisting people in making out

those sixty-four cities?

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their income tax returns and so on. I don't
know, maybe it isn't worth including.
Sullivan:

Peter, if the inquiries come here and we have

one uniform set of replies, if they go to sixtyfour different collectors, you don't get
that same uniformity no matter how hard you
try.

Odegard:

That is true.

H.M.Jr:

Or you can make it, "Or write me" That is simple
enough. "See your neighborhood bank or write

me."
Kuhn:

And they will do it.

Bell:

You will get a lot of letters.

H.M.Jr:

We have got a whole staff for that.

Buffington:

We plan to send this directly to the banks in
the interest of time for November first mailing.
It would require a covering letter from you.

You may have somewhat the same criticism of the

first paragraph, although that is almost
identically what you told them in a previous

letter.

H.M.Jr:

On July 28 I wrote you regarding the"- this is
the banks?

Büffington:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

"New tax savings notes which were about to be

issued. I told you __" Change that. I don't
tell them; I inform them, " that I thought it
important that taxpayers of the Nation become
aware of the unprecedented taxes they will have

to pay next year on this year's income. I also

suggested that they be encouraged to set aside
funds now, with which to meet these later payments.

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"As a service to taxpayers, the Treasury has
just prepared a pamphlet entitled 1 Know Your

Taxes --"

Again, I would leave out most of that first
paragraph.

"As a service to taxpayers, the Treasury has
just prepared a pamphlet entitled 'Know Your

Taxes1, showing monthly savings needed to meet

individual income tax payments for 1941 salaries
and wage incomes of selected sizes for single
and married persons wi th selected number of
dependents.

"Pamphlets will be sent to you by the Treasury
and I request that you enclose a copy" --

I wouldn't say, "and I hope you will find it
feasible or possible" -- you see.

"...That you enclose a copy with monthly state-

ments of accounts which you send to depositors
the end of October.

"Your continued cooperation in furthering the
Tax Savings Plan will be appreciated."

Now, there is just one thought. This is all right.
I am perfectly willing to do it, but here is
an alternative. The possibility of letting the
FDIC do it through all insured banks.

Bell:

Well, we get all the banks through the Federal.

H.M.Jr:

Do we?

Bell:

Yes, they are all on the mailing list of each
Federal Reserve district.

H.M.Jr:

And these people, when I leave in a couple of

minutes, they can stay behind right here in this

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room and help you get over the thing. I am

moving very fast. I would leave off that first
paragraph, "As a service to taxpayers, the
Treasury asks you to join me" or

no
"I
you as a service

us." You know, something like
that. You have got enough talent around here

But country that no request, and will help do this orders. sincerely something. to the hope

Odegard:

that can get that spirit. Right, Peter?
That is quite right.

H.M.Jr:

You know, just that "You will join me in helping
us to do this sort of work", and so forth.

Buffington:

Mr. Bell, on the question of the printing office

working over this weekend, is that a question
that will have to be asked?
Bell:

We would like to get this proof to the printer

so they can work over this weekend and give you
seven million pamphlets by Monday morning. If
they don't work over the weekend you may not

get the seven million by November first, so it
will cost us about five hundred dollars.
H.M.Jr:

O.K.

Bell:

That isn't very much.

Sullivan:

One suggestion on that opening sentence: We say,

"We in America." How about, All of us in

America"?
H.M.Jr:

Well, the main thing, I don't want a request. I
don't want to direct them. I want to ask them
to join me in a spirit of cooperation, you know.
You have got enough talent around here.

Buffington:

I am sorry about that le tter. It has been

around the circle so many times and I have changed

it --

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Buffington:

Well, if they stay right in this room they can
settle the thing.
That is fine.

H.M.Jr:

What else do you want? Idon't see why you

Buffington:

That is fine, if these men will just give me

H.M.Jr:

May I say one thing, on the whole program: In
talking to a lot of people who are buying these
notes on a monthly basis, they kick on two

H.M.Jr:

can't get it through tonight.

a few moments time.

things. One is that it takes a lot of time to
fill out an application, and they get the note
back and they have no place to keep it, and it
is a bother. That, I think, is the sales
resistance.

Barnard:

Mr. Sullivan and I have been talking about having
a man send his check in to the collector as

often as once a month in multiples of five dollars.

We have an account with him anyhow. Let him
pay his income taxes in advance and give him a

discount and when we get the administrative bill
before Congress we will put in a provision like

that and cut out all of this debt structure.

H.M.Jr:

Bell:

Well, that doesn't have anything to do with

this circular.

But I wanted to tell you and I think we ought to
try to get it through so that we can have it in
the next year.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it doesn't go into the circular.

Bell:

No, it does not.

Barnard:

That is a good idea, though, awfully good.

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I didn't get it, see. You will have to start
in all over again Monday.

Bell:

We have got some resistance on that too in the
mechanical operations but I think John will
be able to overcome it.

H.M.Jr:

I'll tell you what I would like to do, if they

could do this. I want Odegard and Kuhn to
ride down to the airport with me. They could be
back
here
at 3:15. Have you got anybody waiting
in your
office?

Kuhn:

Yes, but he is about to go anyway.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got anybody waiting in your office?

Odegard:

I was to meet Lew Douglas.

H.M.Jr:

Where could you meet at 3:15? Can they meet

in your office at 3:15?

Bell:

They can. I have got an appointment but they
can meet in there.

Sullivan:

They can meet in mine.

Morris:
H.M.Jr:

I have got lots of room.
Three-fifteen?

Sullivan:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Would you?

Barnard:

All right.
And I will deliver these fellows. Three-fifteen.

H.M.Jr:

Can you get rid of your fellow?
Bell:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Is that all right?

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Bell:

Yes, sure.

H.M.Jr:

I have got one idea I would like to leave with
you. Have this thing photographed and we can,
for two or three thousand dollars, have a
short newsreel made, which we pay for, to have
it run in every newsreel theater. FHA used

to do that. It cost about three thousand dollars,

I think, something unbelievably small to have
the thing photographed and then put on every

newsreel theater. Think about it. We haven't

used the newsreels. We have used the radio but
that would reach forty million people, supposedly.
What do you think, Ferdie?
Kuhn:

Better than the radio.

Buffington:

We thought of putting up placards in post offices
containing this table.

H.M.Jr:

And the final thing, add, "If you care to ask for
a copy of this circular you can get one at the
boxoffice as you go out. The theaters will do

that. They will do that. "If you want a copy
of this circular, you can get one at the boxoffice

as you go out."
Buffington:

You will have to print sixty million up.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you can't make too many. People are going

to lose them. We are trying to collect twelve
million dollars worth of taxes. Supposing we
spent a hundred thousand dollars on this thing.
It would be a very small amount and it doesn't

begin to reach that, does it? How much is it?

Buffington:

I can't get the figure yet.

H.M.Jr:

But supposing we set out to spend a hundred

thousand dollars. But will you remember that

newsreel idea?

Buffington:

Yes.

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And we have newsreel people who could help

you, see, and then you would get the moving

picture distributing people to handle the
thing and give them a package of the things
to put in the box office.

Buffington:

If we take that third column out, Mr. Sullivan
might have his picture taken with it, if he would
be willing to.

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On July 28, I wrote you regarding the new Tax
Savings Notes which were then about to be issued. I told

you I thought it important that taxpayers of the Nation
become aware of the unprecedented taxes they will have to

pay next year on this year's income. I also suggested that
they be encouraged to set aside funds now, with which to
meet these later payments.

As a service to taxpayers, the Treasury has just
prepared a pamphlet entitled "Know Your Taxes*, showing

monthly savings needed to meet individual income tax payments for 1941 salaries and wage incomes of selected sizes
for single and married persons with selected number of
dependents.

Pamphlets will be sent to you by the Treasury and
I request that you enclose a copy with monthly statements of
accounts which you send to depositors the end of October.
Your continued cooperation in furthering the Tax
Savings Plan will be appreciated.
Yours very truly,

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Dear Taxpayers

We in America have decided upon an "all-out" defense program

that will require "all-out" taxation. Our eyes are wide open to
the sacrifices we shall all have to make in the next few years
for the sake of our country's defense. Through our representstives in Congress we have expressed our preference for paying as

much as possible of the cost of defense out of current earnings.
Accordingly, our Federal income taxes have been increased

so sharply that they will fall heavily upon millions of individual
budgets next year. I These increases are going to be hard to meet

unless we all make definite plans for accumulating tax payments
well before they are due.
Your Government, therefore, is anxious that each taxpayer
know as promptly and as accurately as possible what his income

tax bill will be. As a service to the taxpayers, I have pas-propared the following tables showing what you will have to pay in
the coming year, and how much of your monthly income you should

set aside regularly for tax payments.
Tax Savings Notes are now being sold by the Treasury because

thousands of citizens have already asked for a plan to enable
then to save money systematically and conveniently for this

purpose. When you study the attached tables you will, I think,

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see the usefulness of these Treasury Notes in helping you to

meet your own tax payments next year. I - sure that your
neighborhood bank will be glad to help you start such a
savings program.

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Dear Taxpayers

We in America have decided upon an "all-out" defense

program that will require "all-out" taxation. Our eyes are wide
open to the sacrifices we shall all have to make in the next for
years for the sake of our country's defense. Through our representatives in Congress we have expressed our preference for pays

ing as much as possible of the cost of defense out of current
earnings.

Your Government, therefore, is anxious that each taxpayer know as promptly and as accurately as possible what his

income tax bill will be. As a service to the taxpayers, I have
had prepared the following tables showing what you will have to
pay in the coming year, and how much of your monthly income you

should set aside regularly for tax payments.
Tax Savings Notes are now being sold by the Treasury

because thousands of citizens have already asked for a plan to
enable them to save money systematically and conveniently for

this purpose. When you study the attached tables you will, I
think, see the usefulness of these Treasury Notes in helping
you to meet your own tax payments next year. I am sure that

your neighborhood bank will be glad to help you start such a
savings program.

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October 17, 1941.
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY'S FILES

A meeting relative to the administration of Executive
Order 8389 was held in Mr. Foley's office at 3:30 p.m. on October
16, 1941, attended from time to time by the following:
Messrs. Foley (Chairman), Pehle, B. Bernstein, Dietrich,
Lawler, and Timmons for the Treasury; Messrs. Acheson, Luthringer,
Fisher, and Miller for State; Messrs. Shea, Swidler, Jurenev, Kreeger,
and Rosenwald for Justice; and Mr. Knapp for the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System.

Mr. Pehle referred to approximately fifty applications,

involving $2,000,000, which seek to transfer funds from blocked

Rumanian, Dutch, Belgian and Estonian accounts to Swedish account.
The Swedish Legation in Washington has requested the reconsideration

of these applications, stating that the funds involved represent

purchases of merchandise by Sweden in various European countries,

which merchandise was not delivered. Mr. Pehle pointed out that it
has not been the policy of the Foreign Funds Control to license such
reversal payments for several reasons. Several despatches from the
British Government have indicated that should the Swedish banks receive
these reversal payments they would then proceed to pay Rumania

through other channels, possibly Switzerland. One application for a

reversal payment from the Netherlands to Bulgaria was cancelled and
the Attache of the Bulgarian Legation stated that Bulgaria had received payment through other channels, presumably the Berlin clearing

arrangement. In view of all the considerations involved, the Committee unanimously reaffirmed the denial of these applications.
Mr. Acheson reported that with respect to the three

Japanese boats which are coming to the United States to remove
Japanese nationals, it has been made perfectly clear to the Japanese

that such boats will not be allowed to bring cargo into the United
States nor to carry any cargo from the United States.
In connection with the recent denial of the Maywood
Chemical Company application by this Committee, Mr. Bernstein said

that a new proposal had been submitted. It is now proposed that the

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German subsidiary of the Socony-Vacuum purchase the Maywood Chemical

Company stock owned by Mrs. Janner, a resident of Germany, and place

such stock in a blocked account in the United States in the name of

the German subsidiary. The Committee agreed that this amendment to
the previous application should be denied.

Mr. Bernstein informed the Committee that Messrs. Pehle,
Miller and himself had spoken with Mr. White, the New York State
Superintendent of Banks. Mr. White was requested to take no strong
action with respect to the Yokohama Specie Bank without consulting
with the State and Treasury Departments. Mr. White was also informed
that this Committee is prepared to license the payment of Japanese
diplomatic expenses in the United States out of the Yokohama Specie
Bank. Mr. White is to proceed with his discussions with the Yokohama
Specie Bank looking toward the escrowing of sufficient assets to

safeguard the interests of the American creditors. Mr. White also

reported that the New York State banking license of the Yokohama

Specie Bank had been extended for three months.

Mr. Foley described to the Committee certain steps being
taken by the Treasury in connection with its public relations program on freezing control. An article on Foreign Funds Control will

appear in the November issue of Banking Magazine and the Secretary

is addressing a letter to the president of each bank in the United
States pointing out the importance of freezing control and requesting
cooperation and suggestions. The Secretary is also addressing a
letter to each state banking association, which states that speakers
will be available to address meetings on various aspects of the
freezing control. A committee consisting of Mr. Loree and other
bankers from New York is to meet in Washington with representatives
of the various Federal Reserve Banks, at which time a series of discussions throughout the country will be planned.

Mr. Acheson reported to the Committee that Mr. Stopford of
the British Embassy had recently called on him with two British in-

surance men. Mr. Acheson suggested that inasmuch as they wished to

discuss insurance problems in connection with the freezing control
and the Proclaimed List, these matters should be taken up with the

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Treasury Department. Mr. Shea stated that the Department of Justice

was looking into the possibility of the leakage of information through
maritime insurance companies. He said that he would receive in two

weeks a report from the Pilot Reinsurance Company and that he would
send copies thereof to the Treasury Department.

Mr. Lawler submitted a sub-committee report with respect
to the plan of Sterling Products to obtain complete ownership of
Laboratories Suarey. Sterling Products now owns 86% of the shares
of such company. I. G. Farben has some sort of an equitable interest in 75% of 51% of the stock of Laboratories Suarey. The
shares were originally paid for with Sterling Products money and the
amount owing to Sterling for such purchase was to be deducted from

profits accruing to I. G. Farben. It is now proposed to form a new
corporation of which Sterling will own 86% of the stock, and liquidate the old corporation. It seems clear that I. G. Farben will not
realize any funds from this transaction. Representatives of Sterling
Products have been informed that approval in this transaction under
Executive Order 8389 implies nothing as to the legality of such
transaction under Argentine law or the morality of the transaction.

The Committee unanimously adopted resolution of the sub-committee

that this transaction should be approved.

Mr. Lawler also reported for the sub-committee on the sales
outlets being developed in Latin America by Sterling Products for
ethical pharmaceuticals. Seven corporations have been formed in the
larger countries and Sterling proposes to use agents satisfactory to
the American Commercial Attaches in the others. It is proposed to
insert in the names of the corporations a reference to Winthrop, as
it is planned to sell products made by Winthrop. It has been represented that this use of the Winthrop name is necessary because of
various sanitary requirements and because Winthrop has compiled the

necessary clinical records over a period of years to support the sale
of its ethical pharmaceuticals. The report of the sub-committee was
adopted, and Mr. Lawler is to make clear to a representative of
Sterling Products that this action does not in any way prejudice the
Committee's freedom of action in passing on any application that may

be filed by Sterling to buy out General Aniline & Film's interest in

Winthrop.

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-4Mr. Fisher referred to a note and oral statement which the
State Department proposes to transmit to the Italian Embassy. In
such note it is pointed out that American foreign service officers
in Italy are unable to cash drafts drawn on the Secretary of State,

and they have been forced to receive funds for their maintenance
through Argentina and Switzerland. Of late the State Department has
been experiencing some difficulty in remitting funds through these

channels. It is pointed out to the Italian Government that it is

expected that such State Department drafts will be accepted and when

presented for payment they will be paid in free dollars, which funds
may be utilized for the payment of Italian diplomatic expenses in
the United States and for conversion into the currencies of non-blocked
countries. Should, however, the American Government be forced to

continue to effect remittances to Italy through Switzerland, we will
require that the dollars necessary for the replenishment of Italian
official accounts in the United States also be transferred to the

United States from Switzerland.

Mr. Fisher also read a telegram to Ambassador Grew in

Tokio stating that in view of the fact that the contemplated payment
of Japanese diplomatic expenses out of the Yokohama Specie Bank will

represent a depletion of the very limited assets of such bank, this
Government will require that dollar funds accruing to Japan as a result of encashment of the State Department drafts be paid into an

account with the Yokohama Specie Bank as a partial offset to Japanese
payments. The Committee agreed to the despatch of such telegram.

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October 17, 1941
To:

HAROLD N. GRAVES

Subject:

PROGRESS REPORT FROM DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF

SALE OF BONDS

Actual cash receipts from the sale of E, F and
G Bonds from October 1st through October 15th were $134,552,000,

which is an increase of 9.5 per cent over the same period in
September. Sales from September 1st through September 15th

were $116,608,000. Sales from August 1st through August 15th
were $151,742,000.

(Federal Reserve and other banks in many states were

closed on Monday, October 13th, in celebration of Columbus Day.)
SALE OF STAMPS

Sale of Stamps as of September 30th reached a total
of $18,998,000 for five months. September sales were $4,978,000,

largest of any month, an increase of 11.8 per cent over August.
In September 2,942,000 more Stamps were sold than in August.
Total number of Stamps sold through September 30 was 61,855,000.

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DIRECT MAIL

Total receipts from all mailings (which began
on June 21st) are $4,175,264. The industrial mailing has
brought to date orders of $2,381,816; the customer mailing

orders of $1,480,621. Both of these mailings are still
pulling.

Mailings for November, now being prepared, will
include the following: To approximately 2,000,000 prospects
of "over $5,000 income" in seventeen Grade A States; 400,000

corporations, etc.; twelve tests to 120,000 prospects;
enclosures to 210 mail advertisers for their use.
HOTEL COOPERATION

Distribution of three million posters and folders
to 6,000 hotels started this week, marking the participation
of the American Hotel Association in the Program. In con-

nection with this activity, an experimental sales and
information booth for Bonds, Stamps and Tax Notes was opened

in the Willard Hotel lobby.

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POST OFFICE MANUAL

Fifty thousand manuals describing and illustrating

available display material and literature, prepared in
cooperation with the Post Office Department, are being sent
to postmasters. (Copy Attached).
TREASURY BOOTHS

Stamps, Tax Notes and Bonds have been sold at the

four Washington booths since the opening dates (indicated),
as follows:
Garfinckle's

(Oct. 3)

Stamps

$186.30
25.00
375.00
$586.30

Tax Notes
Bonds

Lansburgh's (Oct. 10)
Stamps
Bonds

$142.50
281.25
$423.75

Woodward & Lothrop (Oct. 6)
Stamps

Tax Notes
Bonds

$678.70
50.00

2,493.75
$3,222.45

Willard Hotel

(Oct. 15)

Stamps
Bonds

$10.25
37.50
$47.75

Total sales -- $4,280.25
EXHIBIT

The Baltimore National Defense Exhibit and Automobile Show was held in the Fifth Regiment Armory from October

11th to 16th. An entire floor was devoted to the defense

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exhibit which included equipment from all armed services
and a Defense Savings Booth manned by the Baltimore Post
Office Department.
FIELD OFFICE

Since October 10th North Dakota and South Dakota

have been moved from the white to the yellow group. There
are now only three states in which an organizational
beginning has not been made - Delaware, Louisiana and New
Hampshire. (See map attached).

Two new field representatives have finished their

training and are leaving for the field. Four other newly
appointed representatives are completing the course.
BUSINESS PUBLICATIONS

Printed copies of the first four supplements for
insertion in business publications are ready. (See copies attached)
RADIO

Many stations report that they are able to use as many
as ten football announcements per game. Returns show that
announcements were broadcast last week-end 378 times over 111

stations.
(Farm announcements attached).

ANIZATION

STATUS OF STATE

NORTH

IOWA

NEBRASKA
ILLINOIS

Key:

Hawaii
490 500 MILES

State and
Local Committees Organized
Committees
and/or
Chairmen Appointed
State Administrators
Organized
Not Started

LIONS FORDHHANSE

DEFENSE OR MILLIONS

Soldiers in the drafting room- meticulous

army whose plans
precede our figating
machines

"THE MEN BEHIND THE
MEN BEHIND THE GUN"
He doesn't wear a uniform,

nor man a gun, nor guide a
plane, nor peer from the porthole of a fighting ship, but hethe man behind the man behind the gun-is the soldier of
the factory. honorable and indispensable volunteer in a key

corps of America's army for
defense. It takes five such of
him for each fighter on the
front line. Sweat and sacrifice. we must know now. are the

dues demanded of those who

would enjoy for themself
their own. and their posteril
the blessings of democracy and

freedom. Your defense dollar
are needed to keep the man

behind the man behind the

gun in action.
Soldiers in the shipyard the unsung army which gives the Navy the
floating power to protect our commerce and our shores.

Soldiers on the assembly line wizards of the tool and wrench in Uncle
'oldiers in the factory millions of men and women who make up the

Sam's army of mechanics behind the scenes

army that helps provide the arsenal of democracy.

t thank in the defense army of indus.

Soldiers on the farm-gigantic army of the soil to sustain America's total

A

PERSONAL
MESSAGE

THE PAY ROLL ALLOTMENT PLAN

PUTS PATRIOTISM INTO ACTION
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a personal signed message

exclusively written for this
MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
supplement by an outstanding and distinguished leader
of the industry represented
by the participating publication. It is suggested that in

this message the industry
leader personally endorse

the Defense Savings Program, indicate his personal
sponsorship of the Defense
effort in his industry and indicate why it is specifically
important and appropriate
for people in his industry to

support the program.
Where possible. reference

should be made to the
industry's current contributions to the National Defense
activity as a whole and to the
Defense Savings Program in

particular. If possible. also,
the message should mention

MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
as a continuing contribution
of the industry.)

Many of the Nation's leading industrial firms. both large and small,
have established Pay Roll Allotment
Plans which permit their employees

to set aside regularly a portion of
their income for the purchase of
Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps.

The establishment of the plan is

voluntary on the part of the em-

ployer. as is the use of the plan by
the employees. The plan is flexible
so that if it becomes necessary the
employee can discontinue participation.

Pay Roll Allotment Plans have
been endorsed by the American

Federation of Labor. Congress of
Industrial Organizations. and the
Railroad Brotherhoods.

By establishing a Pay Roll Allot-

ment Plan. employers provide a

sound method for their employees
to participate in America's Defense
efforts. At the same time, employ-

ees have the opportunity to build
for themselves a financial reserve

that will protect them against future

economic changes.

The establishment and operation

of the plan is simple. Full details

have been worked out by the Treasury Department and will be sent to

you upon request without obligation. Simply address your letter to

Department A. Defense Savings Staff,
U. S. Treasury
Department, Washington.
D. C.

PORDEFENSE
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the United States Treasury Department in
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EFENSE FOR MILLIONS

"WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE
UNITED STATES

"

to provide for the common defense and
secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our

posterity ."- stated. in the length of a single
prophetic sentence. was the purpose of "We the
people of the United States." in formulating that
charter of law and liberty which we call our Constitution. Common people. we would call these
men of the Congress of 1787 whose signatures were

affixed to that seroll-common men with uncommon fortitude and uncommon vision. By only a
decade removed from the role of "colonists," these
simple. un-ophisticated patriots set themselves to

the task of building and built a framework for a
free government.

We the people of the United States today. the
posterity of whom our forefather were mindful.
are again engaged in a great national effort "To
provide for the common defense and secure the
blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."
The prophetic phrase of 1787 in the complete and

people of the United States. Men and wom

precise description of the purpose for which we are
asked to purchase today Defense Savings Bonds

defense of the country that is their home. the
opportunity, their children's most preciou- inbe

and Stamps.

Posing on this page for its collective portrait
the greatest society of free people in the world-i

from many lands. of many callings and of mai

minds. but of one united will-to provide for
itance.

Put Your Patriotism Into Action-Buy Defense Bonds and Stamps

it

Strength. Determination. Hope. II isdom. Humor,
I understanding-these are the things in the faces of
"We the people of the United States.'

A

PERSONAL
What a Business Man

MESSAGE

Should Know About
(This space is reserved for
a personal signed message

exclusively written for this
MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
supplement by an outstanding and distinguished leader
of the industry represented
by the participating publica-

tion. It is suggested that in
this message the industry
leader personally endorse
the Defense Savings Program. indicate his personal
sponsorship of the Defense
effort in his industry and in-

dicate why it is specifically
important and appropriate
for people in his industry to

support the program.
Where possible. reference

DEFENSE SAVINGS STAMPS
Defense Savings Stamps were created because

everybody isn't always able to buy a minimum
Defense Savings Bond. Defense Savings Stamps

give every man. woman. and child in America

an opportunity to participate in our Nation's
Defense Program.

Defense Savings Stamps are sold in denominations of 10 cents. 25 cents 50 cents, SI. and 85.
They may be redeemed in cash at any time. No

interest is earned on the amount invested in
them until they have been accumulated in
sufficient amount and exchanged for a Defense
Savings Bond.

Defense Savings Stamps are on sale at hundreds
of thousands of retail stores throughout America,

should be made to the

Even though you have a sufficient income to

industry's current contribu-

purchase Defense Bonds regularly. you may find
mans use for Defense Stamps

tions to the National Defense
activity as a whole and to the
Defense Savings Program in

particular. If possible. also,
the message should mention
MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
as a continuing contribution
of the industry.)

They are a wonderful way to encourage thrift
and patriotism in children. Help them to get
started by getting them an album and encouraging them to buy stamps regularly
Business men who understand the importance of

system and habit will quickly appreciate the
value of this one: As you make a retail purchase get a part of your change in Defense
Stamps

FORDEFENSE

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published in cooceration with the United States Treasury Department in

behalf of the Defense Savings Program.
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COME TO DEDICATE A PORTION OF

THAT FIELD AS A FINAL RESTING

PLACE FOR THOSE WHO HERE GAVE

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TING AND PROPER THAT WE SHOULD

DO THIS BUT IN A LARGER SENSE

WE CAN NOT DEDICATE - WE CAN NOT

CONSECRATE-W CAN NOT HALLOWTHIS GROUND THE BRAVE MEN LIV-

ING AND DEAD WHO STRUGGLED HERE

HAVE CONSECRATED IT FAR ABOVE
OUR POOR POWER TO ADD OR DETRACT

THE WORLD WILL LITTLE NOTE NOR

LONG REMEMBER WHAT WE SAY HERE
BUT IT CAN NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY

DID HERE IT IS FOR US THE LIVING

RATHER TO BE DEDICATED HERE TO
THE UNFINISHED WORK WHICH THEY
WHO FOUGHT HERE HAVE THUS FAR
SO NOBLY ADVANCED. IT IS RATHER FOR

US TO BE HERE DEDICATED TO THE

GREAT TASK REMAINING BEFORE USTHAT FROM THESE HONORED DEAD
WE TAKE INCREASED DEVOTION TO
THAT CAUSE FOR WHICH THEY GAVE THE

LAST FULL MEASURE OF DEVOTION -

THAT WE HERE HIGHLY RESOLVE THAT
THESE DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN
VAIN - THAT THIS NATION UNDER GOD
SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOMAND THAT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE
BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE SHALL

NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH.

DEFENSE FOR MILLIONS

America Means Freedom

To Own Your Own Land,

Till Your Own Soil, Win

Your Own Share of a
Natural Abundance

"

SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH!"

There is beauty in America clean-lined New England with its
quiet verdant hill-, pleasant valleys and the bridal whiteness of
her little towns: the still Southland. blazing bright. luxuriant with
flower and fruit: the great sweep of the Western plains under a canopy
of stars: the matehless grandeur of the Rockies and the thick Coastal
forests sloping down to the deep Pacific's shore.

There is bounty in America Southern field. gleaming with
cotton: fat Line feeding on the rich-grained prairies: Western mountains hedded with ores, oil flowing deep under Southwestern plains,
and power pulled from the churning streams of the East.
From American minds and laboratories sprang most of the scientific

wonders of the modern world the steamship. the telegraph. transoceanic cable. telephone. electric light. the automobile. and the airplane.

These things are America's and above all. the conception of free
men governing themselves in order and prosperity and guarding the
freedom of each to worship as he wishes. freedom to speak truth
as he sees it. freedom to work and enjoy the fruits of his labor.

It is inconceivable that the last drop of American blood and the
last dollar of American resource should not be pledged to the proposition that this bounty and blessing that is American democracy shall
not perish from the earth.

Put Patriotism Into Action-Buy Defense Bonds and Stamps

I

America Means Freedom to Work-and Freedom to
Choose the Time and the Place and the Kind of Work

America Means Freedom to Live in Cit
Country Lane-and in Peac

You Want.

America Means Freedom to Dream,

to Hope to Take a Long Look Forward.

America Means Freedom to WorshipEach Man in His Own Conscience Each
Man by His Own Creed

America Means Freedom to be Loyal, to

be Proud to Give Devotion to the Undictated Desires of Your Own Heart.

A

PERSONAL
MESSAGE

HOW YOU CAN PUT YOUR
PATRIOTISM INTO ACTION
WHEN should you buy Defense Savings Bonds?

(This space is reserved for
a personal signed message
exclusively written for this
MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
supplement by an outstanding and distinguished leader

of the industry represented
by the participating publica-

tion. It is suggested that in
this message the industry
leader personally endorse
the Defense Savings Program, indicate his personal
sponsorship of the Defense

effort in his industry and indicate why it is specifically
important and appropriate
for people in his industry to

support the program.
Where possible. reference

should be made to the

industry's current contributions to the National Defense
activity as a whole and to the
Defense Savings Program in

particular. If possible. also,
the message should mention

MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
as a continuing contribution
of the industry.)

Now. They are the most urgent investment in

America today. As the momentum of our

defense program grows daily. the need for action
on Defense Savings grows with it.

WHY should you buy Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps?
Because that is your was to put your patriotism

into action so that The American II ay "shall
not perish from the earth." Because it provides you with a unique opportunity to save
systematically by putting your money into the
soundest investment on the face of the earththe United States of America-and at liberal

interest rates,

WHO should buy Defense Bonds and
Stamps?

You should. No one else can take your place

in this program-no one else will buy your
share.

WHAT type of Defense Bonds should
you buy?

Whichever type best suits your purposes.

There are three types of Defense Bonds to fill
three different needs. Your bank will explain
what they are and help you plan a program for

purchasing them.

HOW much should you invest in
Defense Savings Bonds?

As large a portion of your income as you are
willing to contribute to the Defense of America.
The main point is to set up a regular program
for your continuing participation in Defense

Savings.

WHERE can you buy Defense Bonds
and Stamps?

Defense Bonds are on sale at banks. saving<
and loan associations, all U. S. Post Offices.
and other designated agencies. Defense Stamps

are on sale at hundreds of thousands of retail
establishments all over America.

Buy a Bond Today, Start Saving Stamps Now!

FORDEFENSE

BUY
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ILLIONS SFORDREENSFE

DEFENSE FOR MILLIONS

America Needs Guns for the Arsenal of Democracy.

America Needs Scout Cars for the Arsenal of Democracy

"THE WORLD'S BEST TOOLS
Once America could be. and was. defended by
thousand lean lads who reached for the rude flintlod
their cottage walls and marched off to victoriousrifle
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Taigres
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America Needs Planes for the Arsenal of Democracy.

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America Needs Parachutes for the Arsenal of Democracy

America Needs Artillery Eyes for the Arsenal of Democracy

HE WORLD'S BIGGEST JOB!"
erican factories. tools of supreme strength and minute

cision must first be forged. great workshops built.
hnicians trained. Defense of Democracy is the biggest
yet attempted by America in this world: calls for the

i financial contribution ever asked of its citizens:
mands for each soldier in the field. tens of thousands of

lar- for his protection and equipment. The biggest
fen- bond can bus makes one American soldier the
ual in armament of his potential opponent in battle.
America Needs Aircraft Carriers for the Arsenal of Democracy.

UY DEFENSE BONDS AND STAMPS

A

PERSONAL
MESSAGE
(This space is reserved for
a personal signed message

SYSTEMATIZE

exclusively written for this

YOUR SAVINGS FOR DEFENSE

MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
supplement by an outstanding and distinguished leader
of the industry represented
by the participating publica-

The best way to buy Defense Savings Bond=

tion. It is suggested that in
this message the industry
leader personally endorse
the Defense Savings Program, indicate his personal
sponsorship of the Defense
effort in his industry and in-

dicate why it is specifically
important and appropriate
for people in his industry to

isonasystematic basis-a bond every week.
every month. or whatever space of time is
most convenient.

While it helps pay for National Defense
your money will be safe. It will be grouing. It will be available if you need it.
Under the Government's Regular Purchase

Plan you receive reminders at the interval

you select. You may without penalty and

support the program.

at any time increase or decrease the amount

Where possible, reference

should be made to the

of Defense Bonds you buy, stop and begin
again. change the interval. or discontinue

industry's current contribu-

altogether.

tions to the National Defense
activity as a whole and to the
Defense Savings Program in

Write to the Treasury Department. Washington. D. C., and ask them to send you a

particular. If possible. also,

request form for the Regular Purchase

the message should mention
MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE
as a continuing contribution
of the industry.)

Plan on Defense Savings Bonds. For your
country's sake. for your sake. do it today.
Buy Defense Bonds on the Regular
Purchase Plan

FORDEFENSE

BUY
This supplement is 3 special section of THIS BUSINESS PUBLICATION

published in cooperation with the United States Treasury Department in
behalf of the Defense Savings Program.

FOR DEFENSE

BUY
UNITED
STATES

FIELD ORGANIZATION
DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF

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News Letter

SAVINGS

BONDS
MASTANDS

TREASURY DEPARTMENT, WASHINGTON, D.C.

October 18, 1941 NUMBER 22
TO THE FIELD STAFF:

Sales of Defense Bonds reached $1,504,411,000, as of September 30.
September sales were $232,327,000. Stamp sales as of the same date totaled

$18,998,000 for the initial five months.

The exact number of individual bonds purchased and the number of in-

dividual owners are unavailable. We can tell you that in five months individual stamps sold totaled 61,855,000 pieces, divided by denominations

as follows: TEN-CENT. 12,370,000; TWENTY-FIVE-CENT, 40,404,000; FIFTY-CENT.
5,611,000; ONE-DOLLAR, 3,123,000; FIVE-DOLLAR 346,000.

In our program to reach millions of Americans, the Series E (The
People's) Bond and the Stamps loom large as criterions of success. Either
accumulations through Stamps or payroll allotment deposits will swell eventually the number of E Bonds owned. Therefore, every payroll allotment plan
and every Stamp sale promotion builds into the long-haul program.
However, to syphon off any real surplus from the rapidly growing

national income, Bonds must go to owners monthly in increasing numbers.
There are many, many thousands of Americans who should be so motivated by
our Field Organization's activities that they will BUY A BOND A MONTH.

Every convenient method to make buying a regular monthly habit should
be established. Our local committees should encourage banks to establish

the Depositors Draft Plan and to let depositors know it is available. The
Treasury's direct mail plan should be widely known. In payroll allotment

plans there should be many regular monthly purchasers of bonds from each
allotment.

Our task is to so promote our program that the number of Bond buyers
increases steadily month by month. The best method is that which starts

an individual on a systematic thrift program which will be followed automatically.

Sincerely yours,
GALE F. JOHNSTON

Field Director. Defense Savings Staff.

News Letter
"YOU, TOO. CAN ANSWER YOUR COUNTRY'S CALL"
YOU CITIZENS OF
AMERICA ARE THE

BUY
YOUR

SHARE IN
AMERICA

WE'RE

WE'RE

WE'RE

DOING

BUYING

BACK OF
OUR

OUR

PART

DEFENSE

WE'RE
INSURING

BOYS

BONDS

OUR

LIBERTY

SECOND LINE OF DEFENSE.

THE MORAL SUPPORT

YOU GIVE OUR BOYS MEANS

MUCH TO THEM AND THE
STRENGTH OF OUR FIRST

LINE OF DEFENSE!

- By C. E. B. Klessig, Sheboygan Press, Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
IN THIS ISSUE

MISSOURI Reports - Page 3
NORTH CAROLINA - Page 4
WASHINGTON - Page 6

ILLINOIS - Page ?
MAINE - Page 7
LOCAL INITIATIVE Produced These Attractive Exhibits - Page 5
DEFENSE SAVINGS In The Schools - Pages 8 and 9

BANKS Have Depositor Draft Plans - Pages 10 and 11
PEORIA BANK Hangs Up a Record - Page 11
TO THE LADIES - Page 12

FARMERS Learn of Program - Page 13
NEW POSTERS For Banks - Page 14
RADIO PROGRAMS - Page 15

JUKE BOXES Boost "Any Bonds Today?" - Page 15
QUOTABLE QUOTES - Page 16

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MISSOURI
School Program Outlined: Many Local Committees Active
CITY AND COUNTY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS from all parts of Missouri, more

than 600 of them, met September 10 in Jefferwon City and voted enthusiastic
endorsement of an eight-point program of preparedness instruction outlinedby

Lloyd W. King, state superintendent of public instruction. Instruction in
thrift and the economics of Defense Savings is to be an important part of
this general program.

AN EIGHT-PAGE MEMORANDUM outlining in detail a suggested plan for school

participation in the Defense Savings Program has been distributed to school
executives and teachers through Missouri. State Administrator Dan M. Nee
reports that this program outline has been extremely well received and that
"Defense Savings Councils" have been formed in many schools.

MISSOURI STATE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES are accepting the systematic savings

idea with enthusiasm. Two Departments already report 100% participation.
A CONCERTED EFFORT to get every city and town in the State to adopt a

pay roll allotment plan is now underway. The City of Columbia was the first
municipality to install the plan, according to the magazine of the Missouri
Municipal League.
HIGHLIGHTS:-

In Flat River, the Lions Club has unanimously voted for 100% participation in the Defense Savings Program.
In Hannibal, every member of the Retail Merchants Bureau has agreed to
handle Defense Savings Stamps "for the duration": the schools have
organized a thrift and savings program; and a group of insurance
men is actively at work assisting the Local Committee in connec-

tion with the installation of pay roll allotment plans. O. A.

Brown is the active chairman of the Hannibal Committee.

In Independence, a Defense Savings essay contest was conducted by the
schools in cooperation with the Chamber of Commerce. $24 in Do
fense Stamps were awarded as prizes.

In Nevada, Dr. John S. Newlon is offering to cancel All unpaid accounts
of $5 or less if his patients will take the money they owe him and
buy Defense Stamps.

In Norborne, the Farm and Farmyard Fair this year awarded premiums in
Defense Stamps.

In Perrysville, a Defense Bond rally in the courthouse yard addressed by
State Administrator Dan M. Nee, attracted a crowd of more than 3,000. the

The rally was heralded by a flight of Army pursuit planes over
city in the late afternoon and later by the school band, which
presented a program of patriotic selections.

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N O R T H CAROLINA
School Program Underway: Allotment Plan Adopted by Shelby Mills
SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS throughout the state have received from State

Administrator C. H. Robertson the suggestion that in each school an assembly
period be set aside for a presentation of the Defense Savings Program by

either the school superintendent or principal or by a representative of the

local Defense Savings Committee. Administrator Robertson has also arranged

for each school superintendent to receive, direct from the Office of the
Field Director, an ample supply of Defense Savings folders and posters for
all schools under his supervision.

COUNTY FAIRS now being held in all parts of the State will, in most
instances, have Defense Stamp Booths, staffed by attractive volunteer sales-

girls and decorated with official posters.

TOBACCO FARMERS who are now gathering in the big leaf tobacco ware-

houses in the Eastern part of the State to sell their crops are receiving
Defense Savings literature. Deputy Administrator Forrest G. Miles reports,
after a visit to this part of the State, that farmers throughout the section
are responding in a fine way to the Defense Savings appeal.

PROMINENT NEGRO CITIZENS are cooperating wholeheartedly with the De-

fense Savings Program, according to Administrative Robertson. Chairmen of
local Defense Savings Committees in the State have been asked to organise
Negro Sub-committees. These sub-committees have been formed and are already
at work in a number of places, including Durham, Charlotte, Winston-Salem,
and Alamance County. T. E. McKinney, dean of Johnson C. Smith University,
is Chairman of the Negro Sub-committee in Charlotte, and George W. Hill,
President of the Winston Mutual Life Insurance Company, is the Chairman of
the Negro Sub-committee in Winston-Salem.

HIGHLIGHTS:-

In Charlotte, teachers of the fifth through twelfth grades are having

their pupils write essays on reasons for buying Defense Bonds and
Stamps, and the banks of Charlotte are offering $25 Bonds as prises
for the best essays.

In Goldsboro, the city committee, R. M. Davis, General Chairman, has
prepared a folder listing the chairmen and members and outlining
the scope and functions of each of its nine sub-committees.

In Raleigh. organisation of the city committee was completed at a
dinner meeting at the Sir Walter Raleigh Hotel on the evening of
September 8th. G. P. Geoghegan, Jr. is chairman of this important
committee which consists of 125 persons, organised into 15 divisions.
In Shelby, the following cotton mills have announced allotment plans:
Shelby Cotton Mills -- 525 employees; Cleveland Cloth - 670; Dover
Mill Co. - 550; Lilly Mills Company - 500; Esther Mills Company -526.

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LOCAL INITIATIVE AND RESOURCEFULNESS PRODUCED THESE
ATTRACTIVE BOOTHS AND EXHIBITS

HIND S COUNTY
DEFENSE
SAVINGS
COMMITTEE

DEFENSE

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Stamp booth on main floor
of Davison-Paxon Company

in Atlanta. From left to

Booth at Mississippi State Fair. From left to
right: Mrs. Mitchell Robinson; Mississippi
State Administrator, Eugene Fly: E. L. Hynes,
field representative, Defense Savings Staff;
Mrs. Bell; Orrin H. Swayse, Deputy State

Administrator; and Mrs. Joe Robinson, Chairman,
Women's Division, and Russ M. Johnson, General
Chairman, Hinds County Committee.

right: Marion Allen,
Georgia State Administra-

tor; Mrs. Paul Seydel Jr.,
Mrs. Bill Wise and Mr.
Charles H. Jagels, President of Davison-Paxon
Company.

A typical local Defense Savings Head-

quarters. Booth in the Crutcher

GODBLESS

Hotel, McAlester, Oklahoma. From

AMERICA

left to rights Mrs. Melvin Wilkins,

Mrs. Nettie Mae Bedingfield in charge
of headquarters and Mrs. Harry J.
Bettes.

BUY

BUY S.DEFENSE STAMPLE

sponsored by the Marion County League

Display at Franklin County Fair, Farmington, Maine. A postal clerk was on
duty at all times to sell Defense Bonds

of Building & Loan Associations.

and Stamps.

Booth at the Indiana State Fair

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WASHINGTON
Seven Thousand Seattle School Children Saving For Bonds
SCHOOL CHILDREN in Seattle and King County are actively participating
in the Defense Savings Program. On September 30, 1733 children received
Defense Bonds for which they had completed payment, at formal ceremonies

held in practically every school in the county. This outstanding action

was possible because of the well developed school savings plan which has

been in operation in Seattle schools for some years, in cooperation with

the Washington Mutual Savings Bank. More than 7,000 King County school
children are now saving regularly to buy Defense Bonds. Each Seattle school
child. when he completes payment on a Defense Bond, receives a fine letter
of encouragement from State Administrator Saul Haas. with which is enclosed
a copy of the telegram in which Secretary Morgenthau instructed Mr. Haas to

convey his sincere congratulations to the boys and girls, and to their parents and teachers, for their "patriotic devotion and sacrifice."
TWO IMPRESSIVE EXHIBITS featured Defense Savings at the Central Wash-

ington Fair in Yakima, where one booth was staffed by volunteers of the
Women's Committee and another by Boy Scouts in uniform. Flag raising and
flag lowering ceremonies each morning and evening were among the events
which attracted attention to the booths.

MANY STUNTS helped put over "Retailers for Defense Week". For example:

Seattle's original cable car, which is now mounted on a motorized
chassis, was appropriately decorated with such signs as "Lick

a Defense Stamp and you lick an 'ism" and paraded through downtown Seattle by members of the Junior Advertising & Sales Club.

"Uncle Sam's Stampede," an original half-hour radio program, was
broadcast Sunday evening, September 13, over Station KIRO. On

this program, listeners were invited to telephone in and order

Bonds or Stamps, appropriate announcements were made, and West-

ern Union messengers dispatched to deliver Bond order forms or

Defense Stamps and to collect for the securities. The program

was sponsored by the Retail Trade Bureau and the Advertising &

Sales Club of Seattle and resulted in the sale of $9,000 worth

of Defense Bonds and Stamps.

Special booths, staffed by volunteers from various women's organisations,
were set up in all of the larger downtown stores.
.

.

HIGHLIGHTS:

In Bremerton,
the Carpenters Union has voted to invest $5,000 in
Defense Bonds.
In Longview, pay roll allotment plans have been announced by the LongBell Lumber
Company, Weyerhaeuser Timber Company and the Longview
Fibre
Company.

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Highlights From Other States:

ILLINOIS

MAYOR EDWARD J. KELLY has accepted Honorary Chairmanship of the De-

fense Savings Committee for Chicago. He was photographed purchasing a
Defense Bond on the occasion of his acceptance.
MANY STATE STREET STORES arranged Defense Bond windows for Chicago's

Marshall Field had four such windows.

"Retailers for Defense Week"

MEMBERS OF CHICAGO LOCALS of the Amalganated Clothing Workers of

America had bought $25,000 worth of Defense Stamps by the first of Septem-

ber, through their "group agents", and had taken $500,000 as their goal.

MAINE
PRACTICALLY ALL COUNTIES now have functioning Committee organisations.

TICKET OFFICES of the Bangor and Aroostock Railroad are selling

stamps, and in some communities with no post offices, are the only
source of supply.

FIRST GROCERY STORE in the State to adopt the salary allotment plan

is Shrero's Market in Waterville.

INSTALLATION OF AN ALLOTMENT PLAN by the Central Maine Power Company

has recently been announced. Walter S. Wyman. President of the Company. is
Chairman of the State Committee.
AT MAINE FAIRS: Defense Bonds were prises on 4H Club Day at the
Windsor County Fair.
An Army "jeep" helped boost sales at the Skowhegan

Fair, where Postmaster Frank Madden arranged a booth for the sale of both

bonds and stamps.

AN EDITORIAL COMMENT:

"While showers of household gadgets are very nice for young ladies
contemplating matrimony, they have certain notorious faults. They
do, it must be conceded, stock the prospective home well with can
openers, dish cloths, luncheon napery, ash trays, and even such
fine things as linen, dishware, cooking utensils, and Aprons.
All this is a tedious way of approaching a suggestion, which is

both timely and practical. It is that friends of those who are

about to wed depart from the time-worn shower tradition and sprinkle
the happy couples instead with Defense Bonds and Stamps.

"In this way, eight olive forks and 19 book ends would be avoided;

Uncle San would have his defense program helped along; and the
couple would start out with money in the bank and the means of buy-

ing what they really want when they get settled and seriously think
about home making." --Portland Press Herald, Portland, Maine.

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DEFENSE SAVINGS IN THE SCHOOLS
The week preceeding Armistice Day this year has been proclaimed
"School Defense Week" by the Governor of Texas. His proclamation reads:
"WHEREAS, there exists in America today an urgent need for everyone to do his part in the National Defense Program: and

"WHEREAS, the Defense Savings Staff for Texas is soliciting 'allout aid' to make every citisen of Texas, old and young, Defense
Bond and Stamp conscious by putting on an educational program in
every school in Texas to acquaint the students with the importance
of buying Defense Bonds and Stamps and through this medium pass

the information and idea on into the homes of Texas; and

"WHEREAS, the citisens of the Sovereign State of Texas, have

heretofore in every crisis in the affairs of this great nation

been willing and proud to do their full duty, and

"WHEREAS, it is now the duty of the citisen of Texas, to invest

in Defense Savings Stamps and Bonds;

"NOW, THEREFORE, I. Coke Stevenson, Governor of the State of
Texas, do hereby proclaim and designate the week of November 3,
1941 to November 11, 1941 as SCHOOL DEFENSE WEEK in Texas, and

urge all Texans to cooperate with the Defense Savings Staff for
Texas and the school children of this State in this undertaking."
TO ASSIST SCHOOLS in developing special programs for "School Defense

Week". State Administrator Frank Scofield has circulated to school principals a manual prepared by two school teachers of the city of Austin, which
contains many specific suggestions for relating class room work in music,
art, penmanship, spelling, English, public speaking, social studies, arith
metic, reading, dramatics, etc., to Defense Savings. This manual also contains many suggestions for school activities designed to sustain the in-

terest of school children in Defense Bonds and Stamps throughout the year.
OTHER SCHOOL NEWS:

SCHOOL THRIFT PROGRAMS. which are conducted in many cities in cooperation

with local banks and savings institutions, have in several cases been related
specifically to Defense Savings by providing that a savings account at the

option of the depositor may be used to purchase Defense Bonds each time the
account reaches $18.75. This has been done in Seattle. Washington; Dallas,
Texas: Rochester, New York and New Haven, Connecticut, among other places.

STAMPS ARE ON SALE one day each week in the class rooms of many schools.

This is the plan used generally in Michigan where many schools inaugurated
"Stamp Bank Day" last spring. Teachers and students work together to keep
the necessary records, collect the money and purchase and distribute the

stamps.

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OTHER SCHOOL NEWS (Continued)

IN RURAL AREAS and some smaller towns letter carriers, and postal offi-

cials have arranged to visit schools periodically with ample supplies of
stamps and to relieve teachers and students of a large part of the task of
handling siseable sums of money.

REPLICA "STAMP BANKS" and "post offices" have been built by some schools

as semi-permanent fixtures in school corridors, class rooms or assembly halls.
A REVIVAL OF BELIEF in the virtue of thrift is deemed by many to be one
of the important by-products of the Defense Savings Program. Bearing upon

this point is a report from an up-state New York town where a large consolidated school has arranged to have postal officials visit the school once
each week and distribute Defense Savings Stamps through student banking

committees. The report adds: "For several years the school maintained a
banking service for its pupile but this was discontinued during the depression years."

EVERY SCHOOL PUPIL in Marshfield, Massachusetts has started on the road

towards ownership of Defense Bonds. In that community, early in the current
school year, every child in the elementary grades and all students in the
junior and senior high schools received albums each containing one Defense
Stamp. The distribution was made possible by the generosity of members of

the Board of Trade, Kiwanis Club and Woman's Club and was arranged by the
Marshfield Defense Savings Committee, Shirley R. Crosse, Chairman.
TYPIFYING THE ENTHUSIASTIC RESPONSE of school children is a report

from Schenectady, N. Y. At Nott Terrace High School in that city the

student council sponsored a band concert early one morning before school
opened. The supply of Defense Stamps was exhausted in ten minutes. Later
in the morning the school assembly period was devoted to a Defense Savings
Program and Principal Loydd S. Michael purchased the "first" stamps sold at
the stamp booths sponsored by the school's three classes.
DEFENSE SAVINGS
FLOAT

This float attracted
much favorable atten-

tion at the "Corn
Carnival" parade held
in Granger, Texas,
September 24, 1941.

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MANY BANKS MAKE DEFENSE BOND DRAFT PLANS AVAILABLE TO CUSTOMERS

From all parts of the country come reports that bankers have made it
possible for their customers to participate in the Defense Savings Program
by simply authorizing periodic drafts on their accounts to purchase Defense
Bonds of specified series and denominations. The following is a partial
list of banks which have installed this convenient "Buy A Bond A Month"
plan:

ALABAMA - Bank of Fairhope. CALIFORNIA - Bank of America, San Francisco.
COLORADO - First National Bank of Colorado Springs. CONNECTICUT - Riverside

Trust Co., Hartford; Shelton Trust Co: American Bank & Trust Co., Community
Bank & Trust Co., First National Bank & Trust Co., New Haven Bank, Second
National Bank, and Trademens National Bank - all of New Haven. DELAWARE Delaware Trust Co., Wilmington; Equitable Trust Co., Wilmington.
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - Lincoln National Bank: Riggs National Bank.
FLORIDA - Lewiston State Bank, Tallahassee. GEORGIA - Trust Company of

Georgia, Atlanta; National Exchange Bank, Augusta; Fourth National Bank,
Columbus: First National Bank & Trust Co., Macon; First National Bank, Rome:
Liberty National Bank & Trust Co., Savannah.
ILLINOIS - National Security Bank, Chicago: Third National Bank, Rockford. INDIANA - First National Bank, Elkhart; Farmers National Bank, Reming
ton. MAINE - First National Bank, Damariscotta. MASSACHUSETTS - Hyannie
Trust Co; Winchester National Bank; Guaranty Bank & Trust Co., Worcester.
MICHIGAN - Commercial & Savings Bank, Albion; State Savings Bank, Escanaba;
Farmington State Bank,
MINNESOTA - First National Bank, Austin; Farmers & Merchants State Bank,

Clarkfield; First National Bank, Deer River. MISSISSIPPI - Bank of Greenwood;
Citisens Bank, Hattiesburg: Capital National Bank, Jackson; Deposit Guaranty
Bank & Trust Co., Jackson; Bank of Morton. MISSOURI - Cotton Exchange Bank,
Kennett: United Bank of Union.
MONTANA - First National Bank, Great Falls: Great Falls National Bank;
Montana Bank & Trust Co., Great Falls. NEW JERSEY - Sussex County Trust Co.,
Franklin; Leonia Bank & Trust Co. NEW MEXICO - First National Bank, Albu-

querque; First National Bank, Santa Fe. NEW YORK - First National Bank,
Glens Falls: First National Bank, New Rochelle; National Bank & Trust Co.,
Norwich. (This list is continued on the next page.)

THIS DISPLAY BOOSTS BOND SALES

This Defense Bond replica tank
which belongs to the HartfordConnecticut Trust Company is

on the sidewalk in front of

the Greenwich-Connecticut Trust
Company. Since it was on duty
in Hartford (see NEWS LETTER

No. 15) it has been in Bridgeport
and several other Connecticut
towns. Everywhere it goes bond
sales jump.

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BANK DEFENSE BOND DRAFT PLANS (Continued)

NORTH CAROLINA - National Bank of Lumberton; Scottish Bank, Lumberton;

Citizens National Bank, Gastonia; National Bank of Commerce, Gastonia;

American Bank & Trust Co., Monroe: Security National
BankRaleigh;
of Peoples

Bank & Trust Co., Rocky Mount. OHIO - Peoples State Bank, Granville; Greenville National Bank; National Bank of Lima; Savings Deposit Bank, Medina.
OKLAHOMA - First National Bank of Tulsa. OREGON - Bank of California,
N. A.. Portland, PENNSYLVANIA - Abington Bank & Trust Co: Pioneer Dime
Bank, Carbondale; Girard National Bank: Peoples National Bank, Norristown;
Third National Bank & Trust Co., Scranton. SOUTH CAROLINA - South Carolina

National Bank; First National Bank of Columbia; Bank of Hartsville; Citizens

& Southern Bank.

TENNESSEE - American Bank, St. Joseph. TEXAS - First National Bank,
Alpine; Commercial National Bank, Brady: Commercial State Bank, E1 Campo:
Commercial Bank, Mason: National Bank of Commerce, San Antonio: Citizens

National Bank, Waco; City National Bank, Wichita Falls. VIRGINIA - Bank of
Lancaster, Kilmarnock, WASHINGTON - Seattle First National Bank.
.

IMPRESSIVE SALES RECORD HUNG UP BY PEORIA BANK

More than $1,200,000 worth of Defense Bonds and Stamps were sold during the past five months by the Commercial Merchants National Bank & Trust

Company, Peoria, Illinois (population 105,000). Since early in May this

bank has used newspaper advertisements and special lobby displays to call
attention to the Defense Savings Program.
A new promotional program is now being developed around the song "Any

Bonds Today?" Tellers' windows will be decorated with the front cover of
the sheet music souvenir edition of the song; and ten times during banking
hours a recording of the song will be played and distributed at low volume
from twelve loud speakers located near the tellers' windows.

Pictured below is the bank's attractive floral display which featured
more than 1200 red and white peonies.

DEFENSE

BONDS

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TO THE LADIES
Some Useful Ideas from New York

In New York, Mrs. Lytle Hull, vicechairman of the State Committee in charge of
women's activities, and her Executive Assist
ant, Mrs. Marion Miller, have already made
most of their committee appointments through-

out the State. They were able to find the

kind of women they wanted in each munici-

pality, they report, by going to big state
wide women's organizations, like the state
affiliates of the PTA, the General Federa-

tion of Women's Clubs, and the Women's Trade
Union League, and asking who the most active

workers of those organizations were in each
locality. Newspaper editors and women's page
writers were also asked to supply the names

of leaders in women's activities in each

town, and the names of organizations which
would probably want to work with local Defense Savings Committees.

Mrs. Lytle Hull and Miss Vivian
Bolster of Hearn's Volunteers

"Flying Squadron"

In New York City, a "Flying Squadron",

selling Defense Stamps together

has been formed composed of society women,

Store in New York City.

club women, and business girls, who have
volunteered to help the Defense Savings Program in any way they can.

at Bonwit Teller's Fifth Avenue

During "Retailers-for-Defense Week",
these volunteers tended Defense Stamp booths in department stores. Helping

out on this particular project, too, were the "Hearn's Volunteers", an or-

ganization of salesgirls from Hearn's Department Store, who are giving one
day every week to National Defense work.
INSTRUCTING VOLUNTEERS

From long experience with volunteer workers, Mrs. Hull and Mrs. Miller
know the importance of providing them with detailed instructions. For example,
the volunteers who are helping to sell Defense Stamps in stores are given
mimeographed sheets setting forth such suggestions and instructions as:
1. Tell shoppers who stop to examine the literature on display, where
Defense Stamps are on sale (at the booth or cashier's desk) and that Bonds
can be bought at any post office or bank.

2. Distribute albums with the first stamp sold if the shopper does

not already have one.

3. Read the Defense Savings informational pamphlets in order to be
able to answer questions intelligently.
4. Keep a record of stamps sold, and, if possible, of the number of
people who make inquiry about Stamps or Bonds or pick up literature.

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FARMERS LEARN OF DEFENSE SAVINGS PROGRAM
TRIPLE A CHECKS BUYING DEFENSE BONDS

FARMERS are being encouraged to invest in Defense Bonds. All Triple A
soil conservation and parity payment checks (about 6,000,000 are distributed
each year) are now being delivered accompanied by a new Defense Savings foldor
entitled: "12 Facts For American Farmers About Defense Savings Bonds and
Stamps."

MEMBERS OF THE 800 RURAL ELECTRIFICATION COOPS., who represent approxi-

mately 1,000,000 farm families, are now receiving the folder "Freedom for the

Future" (referred to in NEWS LETTER NO. 18).

ALL FIELD OFFICES AND AGENTS of the Departments of Agriculture and

Interior are cooperating to keep Defense Savings before the rural families
whom they serve. Field representatives of these Departments have been instructed to cooperate closely with state and local Defense Savings Committees
and to do all that they can to stress to farmers the importance of substantial

and continuous investment in Defense Bonds and Stamps.

OTHER NEWS FROM THE FARM FRONT:-

All Creameries in Vermont, including both privately owned and cooperative
creameries, are distributing folders giving information about the Defense Savings Program. In addition, some of them are developing plans whereby the
creameries help farmers buy bonds by making authorised deductions from milk
checks. This is a plan which operates for farmers in much the same way that
the pay roll allotment plan operates for wage earners and salaried employees.
Future Farmers of America, organizations of boys studying vocational
agriculture, are investing reserve funds in Defense Bonds. The Mississippi
FFA organization reports the investment of $3,000; Florida, Louisiana and
New Mexico organizations each report purchases of $1,000 Defense Bonds, and
the Vermont group has made an initial purchase of a $100 bond.
His fine Jersey cow produced the milk which
brought the money which Danny Eugene Farrow, 4H Club

boy of Spring Creek, Yell County, Arkansas, saved to
buy the Defense Bond he proudly displays in the picture

at the left. Danny's father, Glenn Farrow, in 1931 won
the Future Farmers of America award as Master Farmer.

Rural Electrification cooperatives throughout the
country have invested $650,000 in Defense Bonds. In

Missouri, every such cooperative has purchased Bonds.

VET

A Minute Man Sculptured in Butter was the

principal attraction at the exhibit of the Beatrice Creamery Company of
Topeka, at the Kansas Free Fair in that city.

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News Letter
NEW DISPLAYS AVAILABLE FOR OUTDOOR ADVERTISERS

OUTDOOR ADVERTISING is doing much to keep the objectives of the Defense

Savings Program before the American public. Already in scores of cities,
banks and savings and loan associations and other local users of the outdoor
advertising medium, and some national advertisers, notably the Wrigley Company, have placed Defense Savings messages upon outdoor displays which they

either own, lease or contract for. Pictures of a few of these billboards
have already appeared in previous issues of this NEWS LETTER.

A NEW PROGRAM of outdoor advertising is now getting underway. The newly

established Outdoor Display Section of the office of the director of information has just announced that arrangements have been made with the Outdoor

Advertising Industry for the production of a series of Treasury-approved
designs which will be made available at cost to users of outdoor advertising
space and to the "plant operators" engaged in this business.

Own a SHARE IN AMERICA
FOR DEFENSE

BUY
DEFENSE

SAVINGS
BONDS
THIS SPACE

FOR ADVERTISER'S

IMPRINT

A SMALL BOY AND A DOG (above) feature the design of the poster which is

the first in this series to become available. This design was provided by the
Mass Marketing Institute of Chicago. Colored miniatures of this design were
mailed on October 14th by the Treasury Department to approximately 12,000

banks, insurance companies, and other financial institutions throughout the
United States, together with a letter announcing the availability of these
posters and outlining the procedure by which they can be obtained. The large
24-sheet posters for this design are now in the process of production, and
should be available to advertisers about October 20th.
FOR PAINTED BULLETINS, the two designs now available have been provided

by Outdoor Advertising Incorporated. Both feature the Minute Man, and differ
only as to the wording of the headlines.
One says:

"OWN A SHARE IN AMERICA.

Buy United States Defense Bonds and Stamps."

The other reads:

"FOR DEFENSE AND SECURITY.

Buy United States Defense Bonds and Stamps."

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News Letter
DEFENSE SAVINGS ON THE AIR
Leading Programs for the Coming Week
FOR AMERICA WE SING

Monday, October 20

Tuesday, October 21

Saturday, October 25

MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE

(The Treasury Hour)
AMERICA PREFERRED

9:30-10:00 P.M. (EST)
8:00-9:00 P.M. (EST)
NBC Blue Network

9:15-9:45 P.M. (EST)

THESE THREE PROGRAMS are dedicated exclusively to Defense Savings. In

addition, many regularly sponsored programs during the week will include
announcements and other boosts to remind America's radio audience to "Buy a

Share in America."

.

"ANY BONDS TODAY?" IN FIRST POSITION
IN NATION'S 300,000 AUTOMATIC PHONOGRAPHS

A nation-wide campaign to place "Any Bonds Today?" and other popular
National Defense records as they become available in the No. 1 position on
the nation's 300,000 automatic phonographs has been launched by the Automatic
Phonograph Manufacturers Association and representatives of all major record-

ing companies. Records which receive this position are played more often
than any others in the machines.

Each recording company will make special stickers, cards and title slips
for distribution to all places where the automatic phonographs, popularly
known as "juke boxes", are installed. This material is now in production, and

the week of November 9 to 16 has been fixed as "Automatic Phonograph Operators
Cooperating in the Promotion of United States Defense Bonds and Stamps Week."

In Michigan, automatic phonograph operators got the jump on the rest of

the country and, through the efforts of Roy Small, Conciliator for Local 737,

United Phonograph Operators Association, CIO, and the United Music Operators
Association of Michigan, "Any Bonds Today?" was given the preferred position
on all 5,100 music boxes in Detroit and Wayne, Macomb and Oakland counties.

Late in September, when Secretary Morgenthau made his trip to Detroit
to discuss pay roll allotment with labor and business leaders, Frank N. Isbey,
Michigan State Chairman, offered him $100 if he could find a juke box on which
"Any Bonds Today?" was not the first tune. The Secretary took up the challenge and, accompanied by State Administrator Giles Kavanagh, Chairman Isbey
and one or two others. went to more than a dozen places, buying hot dogs and

dropping nickels in the slots of automatic phonographs. Reports have it that
the personal investigation cost the Secretary a pocketful of nickels and that

Chairman Isbey kept his $100. "Any Bonds Today?" was in the top spot on
every machine!

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News Letter
QUOTABLE QUOTES
"In this, the most perilous hour in the entire history of civilization

and Christianity, it becomes the duty of all who believe in the preservation

of American freedom and the American way of life to do everything possible in
behalf of the perfection of national defense. Every member of the Moose
Lodge can increase his contribution to the nation's security and the perpetuation of his own liberty by purchasing Defense Savings Stamps and Defense

Savings Bonds to the limit of his capacity.

Therefore, every member of

the Loyal Order of Moose is urged to buy at least one Defense Savings Stamp
a day and at least one Defense Savings Bond a month."
-- Mathew M. Neely, Supreme Governor,
Loyal Order of Moose, Governor of West Virginia,
and Honorary Chairman of his State's Defense
Savings Committee.

"The time has come for us to take our American Citizenship seriously.
We have accepted the privileges afforded us by our form of Government as a

matter of course, forgetful of the price our forefathers paid that we might

be free. That freedom, and the Government under which we enjoy it, is not

only challenged, but it is threatened. Let the bankers as a class take the
lead in a great movement to arouse our people to the dangers which threaten,

and try to make them conscious of their individual obligation and responsibility to our Government. Let us pledge anew our allegiance to the flag of
our country, and rededicate our lives to its protection and perpetuation."
Ed. L. Weathers. President,
Kentucky Bankers Association.

"Our job is to sell every individual--without coercion and with each

one the judge of his own limitations--the obligation of THRIFT FOR DEFENSE."

- William H. Bartley, State Defense Savings
Administrator for Montana.

I CAN KILL A
LITTLE TIME

READING THAT

POSTER. I'VE

NOTICED A

LOT OF THEM
AROUND

THAT'S ONE OF
THOSE MINUTE MEN.
THEY SAVED THIS
COUNTRY YEARS

WELL I'M NO WAR
EXPERT BUT IF YOU
PORDEFENSE

AGO AND DID
A GREAT JOB

BUY

TOO.

FOLKS
TO
DO EXPECT
THEIR THIN
AGAIN. YOU'D BETTER
KICK IN AND GIVE

FOR DE

THEM SOMETHING
DESIDES A SQUIRREL

SUN TO WORK
WITH.

"BO", Comic strip character by Frank Beck,

McNaught Syndicate, Inc.

OFFICE

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Postmasters for Defense Savings
Bonds and Stamps": See Book 450, P. 235

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

Farm

DATE Oct. 17, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Haas

Subject: Employment in the Aviation Manufacturing Industry

1. Employment in the aviation manufacturing industry
is reported at 289,000 for August 1941, the latest month

for which data are available. A total of 230,000 of these
employees was engaged in the manufacture of airplanes and

parts, and the remaining 59,000 in the manufacture of airplane engines. These figures do not include employment
in the Ford and Buick engine plants, estimated at 4,000
workers.

2. More workers were employed in the industry in
August 1941 than in any previous month. There were 9 percent more employees than in the preceding month, 73 percent
more than at the beginning of this year, and 132 percent
more than a year ago.

3. Since the first of the year the industry has ex-

panded by 121,000 employees. All of the larger companies
reported gains in employment during this period. Lockheed
showed the greatest advance of the airplane manufacturing
companies, with 15,000 additional workers. The largest
increment for the engine companies was 7,000 at Pratt &
Whitney.

4. The attached chart shows total employment in the
industry, and in selected companies, since January 1937.
Data from which the curves were plotted are given in the

accompanying tables.

Attachments

93

Employment in Aviation Manufacturing Industry
(Airplanes and Airplane Engines)
1937-1941

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

22,100

23,700

25,251

24,100

24,200

27,875

25,200

22,800

35,973

138,900
149,700
155,800
167,048
175,371
190,200
210,729
229,644

23,400

22,050

41,425

23,800

24,450

52,800

58,000
60,500
64,500
67,000
73,000
80,000
90,000
97,448
105,362
115,241
123,492
131,200

5,500

6,500

6,989

6,000

6,600

7,825

6,600

6,900

8,727

38,550
40,468
42,869
44,849
48,546
51,816
54,702
58,882

Sept.

6,400

6,772

9,289

Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

6,600

6,847

12,600

13,900
15,800
17,300
18,600
20,800
22,900
25,400
27,019
28,981
32,633
34,199
36,045

Airplanes
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.

Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Airplane Engines
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.

Apr.
-

May

June

July
Aug.

Total Industry -- Airplanes and Airplane Engines
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.

27,600

30,200

32,240

30,100

30,800

35,700

31,800

29,700

44,700

Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

29,800

28,822

50,714

30,400

31,297

65,400

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

71,900
76,300
81,800
85,600
93,800
102,900
115,400
124,467
134,343
147,874
157,691
167,245

177,450
190,168
198,669
211,897
223,917
242,016
265,431

288,526

October 16, 1941

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
94
1937-1941

1937

1938

1939

1940

615

222

654

850

290

912

859
865
896
840
873

808

440

1941

Bell Aircraft Corp.
Jan.
Feb.

Mar.

Apr.
May

June

1,410

July
Aug.

718

235

703

213

606

799

1,834

1,493

2,380

1,726

1,700

2,749

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

1,192
1,480
1,963

4,309
5,043
5,754
6,540

7,036
7,738
7,743
8,677

2,413
3,355
3,597
3,865

Boeing Aircraft Co. -- Seattle
Jan.
Feb.

Mar.
Apr.
May

June

1,249

1,736

2,989

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

1,109

1,798

3,985

1,380

2,285

4,749

3,169

2,540

968

3,246

2,518

819

3,099

2,104

832

2,617

989

1,408

2,580

981

2,540

5,137
4,942
4,759
4,198

5,190
5,882
6,571
6,926
6,940
6,391
5,351
5,657

6,939

8,104
7,960
7,740
7,739
7,920
8,720

11,145

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.

4,349
5,040

May

June

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

2,837
3,477
3,807
5,821

6,743
7,836
9,289
11,018
12,355
12,118

13,135
14,097
14,251
13,886
13,547
14,007
15,238
18,484

October 16, 1941.

Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations

95

1937-1941

(continued)

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
1938

:

1937

1939

1940

3,802

4,380
4,744
5,016

1941

Curties-Wright Corp. -- Buffalo
Jan.
Feb.

Mar.

1,241
1,500

2,211
2,347

2,939

5,213
5,698

Apr.
May

June

1,933

2,310

2,848

6,531
6,597

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

6,314

2,202

2,736

1,562

6,824
7,682

8,273

8,902
9,607
9,946
10,537
11,431
13,191

13,966

7,889

2,007

3,491

3,447

8,010

5,591

6,328

4,334

5,961

6,173

4,177

17,054
18,057
19,313

6,653

4,672

5,445

Douglas Aircraft Co. Inc.
Jan.

5,532

4,028

6,318

6,771

4,110

10,362

11,952
12,077
13,119
14,033
14,656
14,957
14,662
14,898
14,219
14,158
14,726
16,120

910

1,577

2,305

5,157

11,544

4,768

12,031

1,094

1,594

3,509

Feb.

Mar.

Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

21,502
22,678
25,019

25,940
25,647

Lockheed Aircraft Coro.
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May

June

1,338

1,797

5,699

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

1,383

1,997

5,324

1,428

2,123

5,156

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

4,362

13,028

4,400
5,016
5,591

14,829

6,599

7,296
7,582
8,517
10,056
10,904

15,418
19,640
23,865
26,247

October 16, 1941.

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
96
1937-1941
(continued)
1940

1937

1938

1939

Jan.

1,364

1,814

2,905

Feb.
Mar.

1,716

1,892

4,092

2,044

2,134

6,029

2,032

2,341

10,070

1,818

2,777

11,174

9,133
9,010
9,357
9,133
9,513
11,200
10,019
11,414
12,871
13,829

829

1,713

2,223

4,049

889

1,935

2,457

June

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

10,984
9,407

Apr.
May

:

Glenn L. Martin Co.

1941

14,039
13,771
13,216
15,482
16,180
18,313
21,082
23,299

North American Aviation, Inc.
Jan.
Feb.

Mar.

Apr.
May

841

June

2,400

3,125

July
Aug.

4,324
4,154
4,371
4,336
4,782
4,918
4,916

1,272

2,685

2,992

5,111
5,828
6,064

566

2,530

3,795

6,867

Jan.

2,350

2,245

1,826

Feb.
Mar.

2,444

2,168

1,766

2,757
3,051
3,468
3,735
3,912
4,282
4,823
5,016
5,445
6,010
6,105
6,401

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

7,767

8,247
8,736

9,590

9,803
9,770

9,693
9,986

United Aircraft Corp.
(excluding Pratt & Whitney)

Apr.
May

June

July

2,497

1,972

Aug.

Sept.

1,952

2,439

1,880

2,123

2,338

1,774

2,588

Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

7,011
7,652
7,418
7,492

7,718
7,974
7,963

8,224

October 16, 1941.

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
97
1937-1941
(continued)
1938

:

:

1937

1939

1940

364

742
938
959

1941

Vultee Aircraft, Inc.
Jan.
Feb.

440

Mar.

Apr.
May

June

560

533

430

288

334

662

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

1,008
1,334
2,127
2,618
2,857
3,531
3,652
3,733
3,851

4,057
4,325
4,544
5,096
5,022
4,955
4,864
4,842

October 16, 1941.

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Employment of Selected Airplane Engine Corporations

98

1937-1941
1937

1938

1939

218

262

454

229

297

466

238

339

558

1940

1941

Allison Engineering Co.
Jan.
Feb.

Mar.
Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.

1,114
1,261
1,610
1,958
2,766
3,254
3,917
4,595
5,282
6,280
6,295

238

382

642

266

439

901

6,394

Jan.

151

153

134

Feb.
Mar.

153

152

288
344
358

162

144

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

6,422
6,720
7,012
7,114
7,670
8,133
8,420
9,192

Continental Motors Corp.

(Airplane Engine Division)
138

Apr.
May

June

171

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

135

146

203

152

142

243

953

1,057
1,063

368
378
388
398
382
567
732
855
875

1,186
1,235

581
638
657
711
765
819
873
970

1,607
1,661

1,245
1,230

1,240

Lyooming Division of Aviation Manufacturing Corp.
Jan.

849

729

519

889

704

521

Feb.

Mar.
Apr.
May

June

901

549

573

756

514

644

762

506

689

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

1,645
1,695
1,717

1,729
1,706
1,859

1,080
1,459
1,320
1,576

October 16, 1941.

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
99
Employment of Selected Airplane Engine Corporations
1937-1941

(continued)
1937

1938

1,931

1939

1940

2,567

2,264

2,119

2,489

2,659

2,384

2,555

3,066

2,471

2,384

3,394

12,287
13,483
14,286
14,865
15,824
16,633
17,524
17,959

2,618

2,227

5,022

5,642
6,549
7,158
7,541
7,765
8,504
9,121
9,449
9,406
9,794
10,377
11,228

12,847
13,136
13,415
13,849
14,241
14,643
15,150
15,602

1941

:
:

Pratt & Whitney Aircraft
Jan.
Feb.
Mar.

Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Wright Aeronautical Corp. -- Paterson

Jan.

2,254

2,607

3,398

Feb.
Mar.

5,411
6,081

2,515

2,705

3,771

2,800

2,930

3,997

2,690

3,184

4,026

2,608

3,374

5,141

6,537
6,984
7,882
8,682
9,491
10,151
10,726
11,240
11,864
12,408

Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

October 16, 1941.

100

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

EMPLOYMENT IN AVIATION MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY
Factory Wage Earners

1940

1939

1938

1937

1941
M

J

M

J

M

6

J

N

M
M

EMPLOYEES

N

EMPLOYEES

Thousands

Thousands

Total Industry (Aircraft and Engines)
280

280

240

240

200

200

160

160

120

120

80

80

40
40

0

M

M

J

J

0

1937

1940

1941

$

M

N

N

N

M

J

Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Companies

Selected Airplane Engine Companies

EMPLOYEES

EMPLOYEES
Thousands

Thousands

The Douglas Aircraft Co

EMPLOYEES
Thousands

Glenn Martin Co

Wright Aeronautical Corp Paterson

22.5

25.0

20.0

20.0

22.5

17.5

17.5

20.0

15.0

17.5

15.0

15.0

12.5

10.0

12.5

10.0

75

10.0

7.5

5.0

5.0

2.5

7.5

12.5

2.5

0

5.0

1938

1937

1939

1940

1941

27.5

2.5

1938

0

1937

1939

1940

25.0

17.5

0

1937

1938

1939

1940

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.

1941

22.5

15.0

12.5

Pratt and Whitney Aircraft

194

Boeing Aircraft Co
10.0

12.5

7.5

10.0

5.0

7.5

2.5

5.0

o

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

20.0

17.5

15.0

12.5

10.0

2.5

22.5
7.5

Lockhead Aircraft Corp

0

20.0

15.0

17.5

12.5

1938

1937

1939

1940

1941

Curtiss-Wright Corp.

5.0

(Excluding Wright Aeronautical Corp)
2.5

10.0

15.0

0

12.5

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

15.0

7.5

Allison Engineering Co.
12.5

5.0

10.0

10.0

2.5

7.5

7.5

5.0

0

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

10.0

North American Aviation, Inc.

2.5

5.0

7.5
2.5
0

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941
5.0

10.0

United Aircraft Corp

0

(Excluding Pratt and Whitney

7.5

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

7.5

2.5

Lycoming Division of

Aviation Manufacturing Corp
5.0

0

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

5.0

10.0

Ball Aircraft Corp

2.5

2.5

7.5
0
0

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941
5.0

5.0

1937

1941

1939

1940

1941

2.5

0

0

1940

1941

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

o

2.5

1939

1940

(Aircraft Engine Division)

2.5

1938

1939

Continental Motors

Vultee Aircraft Corp

1937

1938

5.0

1937

1938

101

BRITISH AIR COMMISSION
1785 MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE

WASHINGTON. D.C.
TELEPHONE HOBART 9000
PLEASE QUOTE

REFERENCE NO

With the compliments of British Air Commission,
who enclose Statement No. 2, covering aircraft
shipped, for week ending October 14, 1941.

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Washington, D. C.

October 17, 1941

Mr Commission
16,
systish one
1941.

102

STATEMENT NO. 2.
DESPATCHED FROM UNITED STATES WEEK ENDED OCTOBER 14, 1941.

TYPE

DESTINATION ASSEMBLY POINT BY SEA BY AIR FLIGHT DELIVERED
FOR USE IN
CANADA

Misscobra

U. K.

U. K.

Boston III

U. K.

U. K.

7-50

Canada

Cataline

Liberstor II

Kittyhawk

Australia
U.K.

20

--

7

22

Melbourhe
U.

(via Gander)

Middle East Port Sudan

--

--

1

--

--

9

44

Canada

Boston III

Hudson III

U. K

4

U. I

Middle East Port*Sudan

U. K.

8

--

1

(via Gander)

Port

Paltimore

23

5

AMERICAN

Harvard II

Middle East Port Sudan

7

15

Canada

Chosapeake

TOTAL

U.K.

U.

1

115

11

41

103

OCT 17 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

On September an, 1941, Liestenant Martin it. Gennelly of the
Usi ted States Aray was fatelly shot by Customs Guard John K. Young
at Menolais, T. N., as the former was leaving the Maited States
Army Transport PERSIMENT GLEVELAND.

I as informed by the active collector of customs at Fonclule
that the sheeting occurred while the guard was on official duty,

in connection with an attempt of Meutement Councilly to pass through
the castone linee with a package without submitting 18 to isapeetion upon the guard's request.
The Customs Agency Service of this Department is conducting as

investigation to assertata the faste and evidence in the ease. IS
is believed that two United States assel officers in Honolula are
is possession of important information is the after, but the local
navel officials have refused to permit these officers to be interviewed. Criminal presention of Mr. Young for the sheeting has
been instituted is the leen1 courte and I for informal that the
trial may take place is the BOBS future.
in view of the seriousness and urgency of the matter, and of
the information received from the eating collector that the sheet-

ing occurred in line of duty, I shall be obliged 18 you will instruct
the appropriate noval efficials at Honolula by telegraph to permit

the Oustems Agency Service to interview the navel officers notional
above reparting the after.
Very typi) DUTH,
(Signed) Hather)

Acting Secretary of the Treasury.
The Reasonable

The Secretary of the Nevy.
10-16-01

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200 THE SECRETARY.

October 17, 1241.

Mail Apport

for

2011 suring this week lea followed the pottern 01 the previous
letters do ing in in about the seme proportion.
0: courte there are fewer comments on the 10% speech, and the

4th in Levol of the suggestion her ricen. It in about : the
politic of 25 in invor to as against. Keny letters age the
not to weaken on the original stend.

Sending out the speech on infinition through the Defence Bond

office and resulted in 0 very high comment this 05 this speech :-

to Sond onles. A grent any letters are who 1- endorse
...... the Bond crapeign 0.14 very patrictic in their tone. Keny who

the

TO buying Bonds are nonetheList critics1 of Administration
THE the one outstanding criticist is of Government failure

00 edencize. There to no doubt that the Lost recent militur elicited

are than any previous one. Letter after letter peak of
in willing linte, expensive printing, the weste of

those who are already buying and intend to buy. Some
State Letters have been abntrected.

Next critician :- number of letters received is that afrected
inbox unions, strikes end high vages 1 H general.

There are the usual Anti-British fewer Anti and : erent
tony agrinst any pr articipation in the Khr.

Action that the Neutrelity Act should not be emended or
repeated outsushered those supporting such motion 37 7 to -

There Les tees the usual scattering of oburive letters, and
:hose enclosing neverapers Address and columns criticining the
President, the Secretary, or the Administretion in general.

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FAVORABLE LETTERS

Comments on the Secretary's Speeches

Mrs. Ralph A. Metzger, San Francisco, Calif. I greatly admire your
stand on the various issues which have come up from time to time,

especially your suggestion of a 100% tax on all profits above 6%
hope the latter is enacted into law for the period of the emergency.
I hope this letter reaches you personally.

I

T. R. Crook, South Boca Grande, Fla. 100% in favor of your recently
expressed opinion. How about passing it along to FDR? "Man in the
street" doesn't mind heavy taxes, but violently opposed to excessive
profits, and hopes you won't be fooled by the loud voice of Big Business.
Boca Grande still beautiful and would be nice if you could vacation
with us again this winter. Hope you can arrange it.
J. P. Harrison, Texas Theatre, Denton, Texas. I am one of the 130
million Americans you mentioned in your speech, a small town theatre
operator in a little college town down here in North Texas, but regard-

less of my status, I have been trying to figure out the main events that

Your speech
seem to cast the most gastly shadow over the future.
enlightened me more and at the same time it fascinated me by its simplicity and its abundance of good old hard common horse sense. And just
as a humble citizen that I am, I want you to know that I am one of our
130 million Americans who are behind you in your mastodonic task. In
the language of a showman, I have some other good adjectives that describe it such as: Colossal, Gigentic, and Stupenduous.

R. E. Masterson, Beaumont, Texas. Your address is put in such a concise

and interesting manner that one cannot fail to read it thoroughly. The
principles set forth in the address should be supported by all Americans,
but I imagine the pressure groups in Washington will probably hinder the
inauguration of same, and there will be "heck" to pay in the "sweet bye
and bye".

D. G. Merkel, East Orange, N. J. Your pamphlet, "A Speech and a Pledge",
to
which you were so kind as to send me has impressed me greatly. I wish I
thank you for this admirably clear and far-sighted speech, with which
When I listen to the men of my own profession,
heartily agree.
college professors and teachers, I am seriously worried. There is no
doubt that they agree completely with the aims of our Government's foreign

policy. But there is on the other side a rising bitterness about the

fact that the Government up to now was not able to prevent the rise of
the cost of living.

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E. H. Beardsley, Jacksonville, Florida. I have read of your suggestion
to limit the amount of profits to the stockholders of corporations to
Corporations are made up
6% and think they are all very good.
largely of small people, like myself, who save and invest, and seldom
if ever see over 6% The directors and special heads at the time of
their organization for the year, vote themselves a large salary
(possibly they are worth it), which is known to the stockholders. Then
at the end of the year they figure out a small amount to said investing
stockholders, and take the surplus for themselves in the form of a bonus.
I have seen recently where the Courts ordered a president of a
tobacco company to refund his bonus to the rightful stockholders. This

if followed up might put a lot of money in circulation, where it rightfully belongs, and help increase taxes.

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Comments on Bonds

Felix Bilgrey, N. Y. C. I thank you for your letter of September 26.

I was very happy that you thanked me personally for having bought a
$25 Savings Bond. I am proud that I could buy a Savings Bond with the

first $20 I earned in the United States. I am a Dutch boy who fled

from the Germans in May, 1940; on July 23, 1940, my parents and I

entered the United States. During the past year, I attended the Long
Island City High School, from which I graduated with honor in June.

On June 17, my seventeenth birthday, I received the amount of $20 from
the Manufacturers' Trust Company, this representing the First Prize
for an essay contest, "Why Everybody Must Buy National Savings Bonds".
I purchased my Bond on the following day.

David A. Williams, Cleveland, Ohio. I have not only used what surplus
funds my monthly income permits for the purchase of Defense Bonds, but
have disposed of some other holdings and transferred same into this of
I am sometimes discouraged to find the lack
type of security.

recognition that prevails among the run of men in the steel plants with
regard to the critical situation that is presented to our great democracy.
I do not mean to infer that I am pessimistic but feel quite certain that
one of the biggest problems facing our Government today is to impress

upon the individual in every way just what a critical situation it is,

and how necessary it is for exerybody to put his shoulder to the wheel.

Phil S. Dickinson, Chicago, Ill. As you know, this section of the
country is probably the center of the controversy as to the wisdom of
our President's foreign policy. I am one of those who believes that the
most important problem before the American people today is to see that

Hitler is licked, and so I personally am heartily in accord with everything he is doing to see that aid is given to the forces opposing the
Axis Power. I likewise realize that under present conditions all the
members of our Administration are under terrific pressure. Finally, I am
in sympathy with what I conceive to be many of the social reforms that
the Administration has instituted. There are, however, several things
which are giving to those who do not agree with the President's foreign
policy, arguments which are hurting the general program. First, your

statement that all corporate profits should be limited to 6% of invested
It has, unfortunately, tremendously increased the feeling
capital.
of dissatisfaction. Second, many of the group who disagree with the
President's foreign policy, and even many of those who agree with it, feel
very strongly that if the country as a whole is asked to make sacrifices,
the Government should help us likewise by seeing to it that non-defense
All citizens of the country must
expenditures are cut to the bone.
change their scale of living, give up things they have had in the past,
and make sacrifices, which they are quite willing to do, at the same time
that our own Government, which asks us to do so, is not following this
procedure at all.

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Quite the gem of the week's mail comes from Mildred Shane, Chicago,

Ill. She has invested her "widow's mite", $3,000, in U. S. Bonds.
She writes that in order to buy more she will have to get a job, and
suggests that the Secretary can help her out. However, there is an
alternative -- she could get married again. The drawback to this is -"Ny boy friend is in jail. Perhaps you can do something about releasing him in my custody. He just drifted and got into wrong company,
but he is smart and has a little money which could be invested in U.S.
Bonds. We need help and if you furnish it, we will help you by buying
Bonds". Name and address are given in order to make the assistance an
easy matter for H.M.Jr.

William Roben, Omeha, Neb. Appreciate very much your letter of Oct. 10
regarding Defense Savings plan, and wish to advise I have contracted
through my employers whereby I am buying a certain number of the U. S.

Every paragraph of your letter is inspiring but sometimes I wonder if we are all doing our share, especially

Defense Bonds each month.

when e certain number of citizens cooperate and then in almost every

daily paper we find strike after strike mentioned, which in practically

every case has something to do with delaying the output of thanks, planes,
and other valuable equipment necessary end for the purpose of defeating
Hitler and the Axis Powers.

Henri Schueg Chassin, Santiago de Cuba. Taking its inspiration from
the very forceful and stimulating campaign which the Treasury Department developed under your leadership for the sale of Postage Saving
Stamps and Defense Bonds, and as a contribution to the good cause of
Continental solidarity and Continental defense, this Company has originated
and adopted the design which appears on the postal license stemp used
on the envelope bearing this letter. It shows an eagle and e condor with
claws outstretched in a gesture of mutual protection, and the legend -

both in English and in Spanish - "The Americas will save liberty". The
same slogen, with a similar design, is now being used in all of our LatinIn submitting this design to you, we would
like you to regard it BE R token of the friendly sentiments which the
peoples to the south of the Rio Grande entertain towards the United States.

American advertising.

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UNFAVORABLE LETTERS

Comments on the Secretary's Speeches

Robert Withington, Northampton, Mass. Your franked speech entitled,
"The Fight Against Inflation", reached me yesterday, and it is worth
the postage for me to acknowledge it, although my letter may never
get to your desk. Of course I agree with you that the subject is one

of supreme importance to every American, and I am glad you are concerned with it. I presume that you have read the remarks on "Taxation"
in TIME for October 6th (p. 23), and Mr. Robey's comments on your latest

proposal to limit profits in NEWSWEEK of the same date (p. 38). I enclose the articles, hoping that you will note the fallacies in your
You do not (I fear) stress in your speech the need for
reasoning.
limiting wages as well as prices, of which wages are an integral part.
It would also be nice if the Government could cut its non-defense spendI write as a salaried teacher, whose
ing and 80 cut its taxes.
wages are not likely to go up. Our salaries are paid from money received
for tuition and from funds received from the investments of the college.
If parents cannot afford to send their children to college, one source
is affected; if the return on stocks is reduced, the other source is
dried up. At the best, our salaries are so small that we cannot save
much; and with the increased taxes cannot soon save anything at all.
We must listen to your appeal to buy Defense Savings Bonds with a wry

face, for, with the best will in the world, we cannot afford to buy them.
Dr. A. H. Clagett, Upper Darby, Pa. I agree with you and pledge my
whole-hearted support in this crisis. Because of changing conditions,
encroachment on private practice by Social Agencies, and age, I am on
the way out, but I, as a patriotic American whose ancestors fought
in
As the
the Revolution, will continue to do my bit as to economy.
representative from our County Medical Society, I attended a meeting in
the Court House at Media, called for defense. I was under the impression
that it was to deal with emergencies and disasters arising in the County
from invasion or sabotage. I went prepared to offer the services of every
physician in the County and had done considerable work in arranging means

for rendering emergency service in times of disaster. A call of the Roll

revealed that there were representatives from Bar Tenders Unions, Barbers'
Unions, Labor Unions, Women's Auxiliaries of all kinds. I was amazed
when a Resolution was passed asking the Federal Government for a loan of
several hundred thousand dollars to construct a few playgrounds and a
swimming pool at a public park near Swarthmore. I went from that meeting
with a bad taste in my mouth and will attend no more. Playgrounds and
pools are of little use when a shipyard on the Delaware is blown up and
human beings are scattered over the surrounding countryside.

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Comments on Bonds

W. F. Kaynor, President, The Waterbury Button Co., Waterbury Conn.
I am forwarding you under separate cover just a sample of what the
business executive is greeted with most every morning. (Bond
literature) These advertisements, in many cases, RS you can well

see, cost good and plenty. It seems to me that this is a type of

expenditure that ought to be brought to a minimum at this time.

Miss Rahna Benson, Brooklyn, N. Y. To whom it may concern, whether

you be President of these United States, or one of the clerks in
the office of the Treasury, where there must be an over supply to

be able to send me one of these every few months. We would not have

to pay such large taxes if you clerks at that end tried to save a

little of our money. DO NOT SEND ME ANY MORE BOND LITERATURE, I AM

BUYING MORE BONDS THAN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE MAKING TEN TIMES MORE

MONEY THAN I. Your office should get in touch with the Defense Bond
sales office and get the names of the purchasers.

Mrs. J. E. West, Jamestown, N. Y. Some time ago I bought for each of
my 12 grendchildren a "Baby Bond" all in my name, but each grandchild
named as "Co-owner" - they not even knowing I have done so - have also
each

month

I

done the same for each of my 5 children. Now

get

from 12 to 17 duplicate letters, addressed in each of their names.
do not like waste, and as each of these are just thrown into my
waste-basket, I am writing to see if there is any way to stop you sending them to me constantly. We are all doing all we can to buy Defense
Bonds and save, and I would greatly appreciate thinking there might be

I

some effort of economy on the part of our Government.

Miss Jennie T. Schrage, Madison, Wis. Your letter thanking me for buying U. S. Sevings Bonds and urging me to buy them regularly is probably

the 20th or 30th letter of that type which you have sent me. By this
time, it seems to me that the automatic sending of letters with . lot of

expensive enclosures every time anyone does buy A bond is A bit wasteful.

After all, the purchase of these bonds is supposed to furnish money for
Government use in necessary expenditures.

A. J. Gillet, The Harter Corp., (Manufacturers of modern metal furniture,

posture chairs, etc.), Sturgis, Mich. I appreciate your letter of

October 3rd, thanking me for buying $10,000 worth of United States Savings have

Bonds, and requesting that I endeavor to buy these systematically.
Our I
just returned from our factory at feel very disheartened.

factory has A Government contract which takes 25% of our normal production, 100%

and I have just been advised by them that you have cut them down from
to 40% When you take the 25% out of the 40% it only
leaves
15% balance
I also
understand
that
which we can ship to our regular customers.
our factory has been compelled to lay off quite a number of workers due them

entirely to our inability to secure the necessary materials to keep
working. You surely realize that people out of work and without incomes
cannot do their part in buying defense bonds. Is there anything that you
can do about all this?

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Mrs. Joseph K. Elder, Henderson Ky. On June 30th I took every cent
I had out of the bank and bought U. S. Defense Bonds because I thought
it was a patriotic duty and a good investment. On July 3rd, while
coming home from work, an Army truck ran through a red traffic light
and struck my autmobile. It was raining hard and no officer was on
I have signed a number of
duty to warn of approaching trucks.
effidavits and given all information requested, however, if any
definite progress is being made to reimburse me, I am unaware of it.
This damage probably
My last letter of inquiry was unanswered.
seems small to you in your capacity of handling millions and billions
of dollars, but it has worked a very severe hardship on me.
do not think our Government should withhold payment any longer on this
just claim. I do not know how to proceed further and I hope you will
do what you can to help me so that I can start buying U. S. Defense
I

Bonds again.

Harm White, The Carpenter Advertising Company, Cleveland, Ohio. While

your courtesy in sending out this letter is appreciated, let me remark
that this is the duty of the citizen, even though he has to do it with
his fingers crossed. I say with his fingers crossed, because I am becoming more and more convinced that the entire fiscal policy of this
Administration is headed for disaster. I say disaster, because if it
goes any further, it will simply give the President an excuse to proclaim some sort of national socialism or quasi-Communism as the only

In an effort to analyze the reasons for the total lack
of national unity, I an forced to the conclusion that it is due to the

way out.

people's inability to believe any more of the President's promises.
Frankly, it has me more confused than ever before and I am therefore
hoping that by some stroke, one way or the other, this European war
will be over before we too will find ourselves under the same kind of
rule that we have been so valiantly opposed to.
Franklin Lindsay, Austin, Texas. If your bonds are no sounder than your
suggestion that profits of corporations be limited to 6% of their invested capital, I have enough of them.
Arthur J. Neppel, Chicago, Ill. What shameful waste to keep on sending
letters and all the printed matter that goes with them to persons whom
your records must clearly indicate are buying bonds regularly, such as
I am doing. There must be thousands upon thousands of people in my
category, and I'm sure I am expressing their sentiments and those of

millions of others when I venture the opinion that it indicates an utter
lact of inefficiency, and it is high time that your Department, and all
others connected with our national Government, strive to cut down to an
absolute minimum all this deplorable and unnecessary expense.

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George M. Morris, Lawyer, American Security Bldg., Washington, D. C.

I am tremendously interested in the financing of the defense of the
United States, but I must confess that when I read in the New York
Times the reports of the Senate Finance Committee hearing in which a
Government officer admits that he refused a contract for housing to
a bidder (with a $900,000 bid) who was over $400,000 lower than his
nearest competitor on the assi gned ground that the bidder's methods
would revolutionize the building industry and would cause trouble

with one of the national labor organizations, my faith turns a little
faint.

Carl Scholz, Consulting Mining Engineer, Charleston, W. Va. Periodically
I receive from you a letter thanking me for my subscriptions to United
States Savings Bonds. This, I am always glad to do as far as my means
permit, but there is one feature which causes concern, not only to myself, but to many others situated like myself, and that is - our
Administration is not making any effort to curtail expenditures not
directly connected with our defense program.

Is it possible that

the attitude of our Administration is to create employment at a time
when there is a scarcity of labor for the defense program, and the im-

pelling motive is entirely of a political and vote gathering effort?
I am frank to say that this attitude is spreading very rapidly, and
since it is your duty to find money, I think we are entitled to your
help in having the Administration reckon with this feature.

Prof. Harold L. Reed, Cornell University. I have bought the maximum
amount possible of Series E and its predecessor in each of the lastinthree years, and I am therefore especially vulnerable
to a further
It is absolutely
nec-

crease in prices and the cost of living.

essary that the Government deal realistically with the wage problem,

particularly wages in the war industries. I AM alarmed at such

information as I receive regarding waste of Government funds in the
construction of ammunition depots, camps, and so forth. May I therefore say that I am one of the number of persons who has done his part

and I am now waiting for official Administration to forget politics and
do its part.

Miss M. E. Dobson, Springfield, Mass. I have just received the numerous
pieces of literature on Government Bonds enclosed in your letter of Oct.

9th, and in return would like to ask why this Government feels that it

is necessary to spend so much money for advertisement in connection with

these bonds when every intelligent citizen of this
country,
who
could
I
feel
that
by
this
disafford to buy one, knows what they are.

continuance of needless spending of money, the Government could do its

part along this line which sould help greatly to curtail the chances of
inflation.

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F. L. Burroughs, Odessa, Texas. If we make application to work
for the Government on 8 defense project to rush up work to give
all out aid to England, unless we join a labor union that we do
not wish to join, we are refused work. Then the Government calls
on us to buy bonds and fight in the army, nothing is said about
the labor union.

Krs. Henry V. Colby, Berkeley, Calif. I have deliberately refrained
from buying U. S. Savings Bonds, since I disapprove strongly of the
Administration's foreign policy and the use to which the money you

are attempting to raise in this way, is being spent. I write you

this in answer to your form letter of September 16th, thanking me for
"entriotic cooperation", because I believe disapproval cannot be expressed too often if we are to evoid at least some of the catastrophe
towards which we are being led.

George R. Walter, Niles, Mich. These bonds are without doubt as safe
and sound as any investment in the world. But I have stopped buying
them because this is the only opportunity given me to register my
opposition to the Government's war policy. Furthermore, I believe B

majority of the citizens of this nation oppose this war policy.

Fronz Schick,

keley, Celif. Unfortunately I have come to the con-

clusion that the defense savings program, or any similar borrowing

in the future will be disappointing since it will not reach the full

earning capacity of the American people. The lesson which I have
learned ns an economic observer in practically all European countries

during and after the first World Wer has taught me that inflation -

whatever its causes may be - and appeals to serve a country by making
investments in Government Bonds are hardly reconcilable.

French E. Wolfe, Cincinnati, Ohio. Why doesn't the Federal Government
be honest with its taxpayers and cut down non-defense expenditures by
eliminating N.Y.A., c.c.c., and W.P.A. and other wasteful outlays known

to people all over the country? If citizens are asked to sacrifice and

economize to pay heavy and burdensome taxes, our Government must first

practice what it preaches. At any rate, election days are coming and

new officials will be elected to do the job.

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Comments on Texation Policies

Dr. Lawrance G. Hallock, Los Angeles, Calif. We ordinary Americans
have been struggling to provide for our families and our future in
the face of ever mounting taxation, but the biggest obstacle to our
welfare has often been the careless utterances of some of our high
placed economic Quislings, like yourself, Mr. Morgenthau, who would

betray all business, big and little. Maybe you also 'shed crocodile

tears" for our big farmers and insurance companies who get fat checks
from the rest of us taxpayers for not planting cotton or what not on
lands that never SAW a good crop of anything. That's the kind of
thing that makes us small middle class investors weep and its not
crocodile tears either. The New Deal and its appeal to the mob.

Myer Prussian, Detroit, Mich. I suggest the Department change its
procedure as to the amount of interest payable on Tax Anticipation
Bonds. A differential has been set up wherein the large man is
penalized and the small man is given preference. I believe about two
and one-half per cent is paid on the money, and the big man who purchases a large amount does not get this. In this way, there is a
distinction between the two, and it should not be so.

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E. D. Moses, Bluffton, S. C. I don't mind being bled white for this
nation's defense. I don't mind being bled white to help England.

I can even hold my nose and not gag too audibly over helping Russia -

but always with the wistful hope that Hitler and Stalin will annihilate
one another. As a taxpayer. I have bought farm and labor votes for

politicians so long that I can take that with a grain of salt. But

what I want to know is where you get the sheer nerve to ask the already
hard-pressed and overburdened taxpayer to pay $30,000,000 for Mexican

roads? If the idea is to bankrupt this democracy out of existence, it
well on its way to fulfillment. Disgustedly yours, E. D. Moses.

is

William M. Mill, Worcester, Mass. I received the enclosed circular
today. (P. 0. - "National Letter Writing Week" pamphlet) We are
asked to conserve supplies and now you will note the Government is

urging us to use them. It seems rather a pity to raise the question,
but this type of thing with others is what I feel is the inconsistency
of Government expenditures. This costs money and time.

C. C. King, North Tonawanda, N. Y. Here is an item for your official
scrap book to show the lengths to which certain Institutions are going.
Today I cashed a City of North Tonawanda official check for $65.00 at the

State Trust Co., the official depository for the City, requesting in
addition to $61.00 in bills, $4.00 in silver and nickels. The Teller

refused to accommodate me with the four dollars worth of change unless

I paid A fee of 1 cents per "roll" for the silver and nickels. No request WBB made that the change be rolled. It would be interesting
to know whether the Bank was acting legally in refusing change without

payment of the above fee.

Albert Schwartz, Pennsylvania Glass Bottle Co., N. Y. C. There is a
great waste of materials and fuel in replacing whiskey bottles now
being destroyed after contents are emptied, pursuant to A ruling of one
of the Federal Departments. We would like to know more about this ruling
and whether same cannot be suspended for the duration of the Defense
Program. The bottles now being destroyed can be redistributed to the
original owners for use, thereby making a tremendous saving in fuel and
other important materials.

As usual, after an offering of Government securities, there have
been complaints saying that the offering of bonds was so timed that
small subscribers could not get their bids in, or information was not
obtainable in time to take advantage of the opportunity.
Amos Burt Thompson, Lawyer, Cleveland, Ohio, writes, "It is unfair to
the small investor to make an offering in the morning and close the books
in the afternoon, because certainly this gives a very great advantage

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to the insurance companies who are able to and, in fact, do have

officials that are in constant touch with the matter, and, of course,
everybody recognizes that the banks have about all the U. S. bonds

they should have. The point of the matter is that no individual can
possibly keep in touch with what you are going to do ifI had
youaccumudo it in

the morning and close the books in the afternoon.
lated some funds that I intended to use for the purchase of bonds offered yesterday, but the manner in which the matter was handled

prevented my doing so."

Edwin B. Mayer, Lawyer, Chicago, Ill., writes, "Yesterday subscriptions
were open for the new 21% issue, and books closed last night. I have

so many friends and clients - persons in moderate circumstances and men
of considerable means - who would like to have subscribed and become
owners of blocks of these bonds, ranging from $500 to $5,000. They feel,

however, that their position is hopeless. There is no preference given
to the small subscriber.

Would it not be well to set up a priority

in subscriptions up to a definite amount? I would like to know personally
that if I want up to $5,000 worth of my Government's bonds, that I have
right and can get them without resorting to the subterfuge of a large
a

subscription and a scale-down."

Stanley Setterwhite, San Diego, Calif. I was recently employed by Aetna
Casualty and Surety Company on a National Defense Project here in San

Diego. I was paid by check twice monthly, and would stop in at the Bank
of America, located at the corner of 6th and Broadway in this city, to
have my check cashed. The bank did cash some three or four of my checks,

then suddenly refused because I was not known, The Aetna Casualty and
Surety Company was not known, the Bank of America didn't know who (what
bank) Aetna did business with, the check was drawn on a bank
in New York,
You know and I

and I didn't have an account with Bank of America.
know that banks are responsible for doing business with checks. We might
as well receive our salaries in the form of any other useless paper if we
cannot cash our checks. Bankers have a church ritual of courtesy and
politeness when one goes in to deposit a dollar. Go in to cash your check
or withdraw a dollar and notice the change.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE October 17, 1941

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

Herbert Merillat
PRESS COMMENT ON
PRICES AND WAGES

There has been a noticeable slackening of editorial discussion

of the price-control bill. Organized labor, however, responding
to the pressure for wage-control, is carrying on a vigorous campaign

to prevent the inclusion of wage-restrictions in the bill.
The farm conference in Washington, called by Senator Thomas,

has received little editorial attention. Scattered comments from
papers in farming regions, however, indicate wide approval for the
refusal of Farm Bureau President O'Neal to endorse the demands of
the conference.

The more moderate newspapers in farming states have been

afraid that the farmers' cause would be more injured than benefited
by extreme demands -- for a guarantee of minimum farm commodity

prices, for no ceilings on such prices, and for revision of the
parity formula to gain further advantages for farmers. This moderate element has taken its stand on the parity principle and
asks for no more, no less, than parity prices for farm products.

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The Des Moines Register, applauding O'Neal's walk-out, had

this to say: "For agriculture to press now for more and more,
indifferent to the effects that success in further demands would
have on the dangerous upward price spiral, would in our very

sober judgment be imprudent to the point of folly." Agriculture,
it said, cannot consistently demand proper restraints on wages

while making extreme demands itself. "It can't be 'whoa' for
the other groups and not also 'whoa' for agriculture."
Wage-Control

Organized labor, for its part, is busily developing a case

against wage-control as part of a price-control bill. "Labor,"
the paper of the railroad brotherhoods, for three successive

weeks has carried editorials to bolster labor's arguments. One
assailed Mr. Baruch as an "ambassador from Wall Street," seeking

"to place war burdens on farmers and workers, while profiteers
escape." Another welcomed the testimony of Dr. Isador Lubin,

to the effect that recent wage increases had not been a significant factor in price increases.
A report of the American Federation of Labor claimed that
wage increases had been unjustifiably used to excuse large price
increases. Wage increases, it said, have added only two percent
to manufacturing costs.

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The C.I.O. News again repeated at length the arguments of
C.I.O. President Murray against freezing wages in connection
with price control.
New Treasury Borrowing

The Treasury offering of $1.2 billions of long-term bonds
was the occasion for much editorial pondering of Federal borrowing

policy. The terms of the bonds were considered well-designed to

attract investors other than commercial banks. There is consid-

erable editorial alarm, however, at the inflationary risks in
relying to any great extent on borrowing from such banks.

The alternative, say the commentators, lies in heavier
taxation, much larger sales of defense bonds, and curtailment
of non-defense spending. In particular a more vigorous sales
campaign for defense bonds is urged. The press is disappointed

at what it regards as a slump in sales. It points out that
relatively few bonds are being bought by low-income groups and

that heavier purchases by such persons are desirable, not only
to raise money for the Treasury but to cut mass purchasing power.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE October 17, , 1941

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
FROM Alan Earth

EDITORIAL OPINION
ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS:
THE CRUCIAL TEST
Firmness

Rumblings from Tokyo, culminating in the resignation of the
Konoye Cabinet, have given the press an expectation of dramatic

events in the Far East. As to their form, the editorial writers
are uncertain; the preponderant view is that the Japanese will
stab at the Russian rear.

There is a corresponding vagueness as to the course which
the United States should pursue. The Washington Post, for example,

concludes an editorial on the subject in the following rather
enigmatic fashion: "The situation is thus one of explosive potentialities which the United States and every other nation endangered by Japanese aggression must be prepared to meet with prompt-

ness and vigor." The press as a whole desires to avoid conflict
with Japan, yet insists on the sternest resistance to Japanese
aggression.

The general editorial attitude toward Japan continues to
be bellicose and even contemptuous. It has been assumed during
the past week that negotiations between the United States and

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Japan have broken down. A number of commentators, in fact,

have insisted that there was never any basis for such negotiations and that the Japanese had been employing them merely

as a device to stall for time until the Russo-German situation

should be clarified. Continuance of the talks has given rise
to some apprehension that a deal might be made at the expense

of the Chinese. In virtually all comment, this or any other
species of "appeasement" is vigorously denounced.
Doubt

In both news and editorial pages, the nation's press has
fostered a feeling that the battle now raging around Moscow

represents a crucial test for the forces opposing Hitler. The
popular reaction, in the event of an imminent Russian collapse,
would almost surely be one of deep disheartenment.

Perhaps still more dangerous is an impression created by

the newspapers that there is little or nothing America can do

to influence the decision. Editorials even in strongly interventionist papers reiterate that insuperable problems of production and transportation make it impossible for effective

aid to flow from this country to the Soviet Union. No great
optimism is expressed for the survival of Moscow; and there

is occasional expression of the fear that Stalin may come to

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terms with the Nazis. Much of the current comment, indeed,

is in the form of a wringing of editorial hands.
The future, in the event of a decisive German victory
on the Eastern Front, baffles and frightens the commentators.
Suppose, says The Omaha World-Herald, that Hitler, "having

polished off his friend Stalin, having taken possession of
the riches of the Ukraine and Crimea, chooses to call it a
day

... he may say: 'I've got all I want

Britain may

keep her empire. I've no war with America. Let's quit.
If you don't want to quit -- come and get me, if you can!'"
The World-Herald, along with a great many other moderate

or tepid supporters of Administration foreign policy, views
such a proposal of "peace" with contempt. But it sees as an
alternative only a long, bloody stalemate with an American

Expeditionary Force fighting abroad. And it quails frankly
before the choice.

It appears inevitable that a Russian defeat would give
rise to a serious wave of defeatism among a considerable body

of press and public alike.

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Disappointment

American newspaper commentators experience a natural

abashment in discussing the advisability of a British invasion
of the European continent. Since most of them are opposed to

an American Expeditionary Force at this time, they hesitate to
exhort the British to such an undertaking. But the degree to
which they desire it was attested by the rejoicing with which
they greeted the mere rumor that British forces had landed at
Archangel.

There seems to be a general understanding among American

papers of the enormous difficulties in the way of an invasion
effort. These are recited whenever the subject is discussed.
Most commentators agree that the British lacked the manpower,

training or equipment requisite for a sustained offensive. Yet
through all the comment runs an undercurrent of disappointment

and the sense of a great opportunity lost and unlikely to recur.
Impatience

In the face of such grave and immediate dangers as loom

on the Eastern Front and in the Far East, the press has been
inclined to consider the current debate over arming American

merchant ships as relatively trivial. The torpedoing of the
destroyer Kearny can scarcely fail to aggravate this feeling.

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It is the spirit, rather than the letter, of the
Neutrality Act which the newspapers wish to see erased.

There appears to be a rather widespread feeling that the
modification proposed by the Administration is timid and
inadequate. Many commentators doubt that guns or gun crews

are available in sufficient number or that they will afford
effective protection against Axis U-boats and raiders. They

argue that access to British ports is of far greater importance, that abandonment of all pretense to neutrality is
most important of all.

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October 17. 19th
Dr. Feis

Mr. D.V. Bell

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Would you please send the following cable to interester Vineas as Sentons
"For interester Vinant from the Secretary of the Treasury.

Is reply so your No. 4788 of October s. 1941. the treasury will
press for the administration of export arrangements being handled in

the United States and will support you is maintaining the position
you are taking on this point."

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CABLE TO WINANT FROM THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

In reply to your No. 4782 of October 8, 1941, the Treasury

will press for the administration of export arrangements
being handled in the United States and will support you

in maintaining the position you are taking on this point.

plungs.

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October 27. 19th
w. Fets
Mr. 3. W. Sell

will you please can't the following collegree to the American Sentens

"you from the Secretary of the
To facilitate the now of supplies to Basela, the United States

has agreed to by gold from the Quested Government is adresse
of delivery and on this beets the Bussies Government has agreed to

sell thirty million dollars of word. the British Spousery represents
live here has been informed about this. wass yes please inform -

w Vineat and Mr.

(Signed) D.W. BELL

FDI 10/17/12

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FOR CASADAY AMERICAN EMBASSY LONDON
FROM THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

To facilitate the flow of supplies to Russia, the United States
Treasury has agreed to buy gold from the Russian Government in

advance of delivery and on this basis the Russian Government

has agreed to sell thirty million dollars of gold. The British
Treasury representative here has been informed about this. Will
you please inform Ambassador Winant and Mr. Harriman.

thuth

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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

October 16, 1941.

sir: Attention: Mr. Frank Dietrich
In accordance with your telephone request, we are

forwarding herewith eight photostats of a letter dated
September 27, 1941, received by us from the Stabilization
Board of China, Hongkong.

Respectfully,

/s/ D.J. Cameron
D. J. Cameron,
Manager, Foreign Department.

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
Encs.

Copy: VW: 10-18-41

A

TABILIZATION BOARD OF CHINA
CENTRAL BANK BUILDING

CABLE ADDRESS

SINOSTABO

TAOMENKOU, CHUNGKING

VIA AIR MAIL
27th September, 1941.

Reserve Bank,

18
Sirs,

We wish to confirm the following message which
set

you on September 25th:

SEPTEMBER 20TH SENT YOU THROUGH U.S. TREASURY FOLLOWING
AGE:

KEBVA LABUX EFIFS MERIA FEEGY OWBYC CULIE INHUY KAZOR
ML EVFYE CULIE RUMJI ETXUG GADEV XUWYX OWBYC CULIE KYHFY
UNQUOTE

OF CHINA HAS BEEN ADVANCING UNDS TO BOARD AND WE ARE
LOUS TO RETURN AMOUNT so ADVANCED CABLE WHETHER BOARDS

OUNT IS AVAILABLE

(Signed) STABILIZATION BOARD OF CHINA
HONGKONG BANK BUILDING
HONGKONG

Yours truly,
ou BOARD CE CHINA
STABIL

Genera. Secrets M

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAN RECEIVED

FROM: American Enbassy, Chungking, China, Via N.R.
DATE: October 17, 1941, 9 a.m.

NO.1 418.
This telegram has reference to Shanghai's telegram
No. 1472, 9 p.m., under date of the 15th of October 1941.
I am in complete accord with the views of the General
General in Shanghai.

This telegram 10 being sent to the Department and
is also Dates repeated to Shanghai, China.
GAUSS

NPL

10

811.51693.132

SECRETARY
of

THE

FFINE
2+

PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM:

AMERICAN EMBASSY, ANKARA.

TO:

Secretary of State, Washington

DATED:

October 17, 1941, 7 p.m.

NO.:

388

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CONFIDENTIAL - NOT FOR PUBLICATION

First. The exchange of goods valued at 96 million Turkish

pounds, divided into two groups, is provided for in the TurkishGerman commercial arrangement (comprising commercial agreement

with protocol and thirteen confidential exchanges of notes, and
payments agreement with confidential protocol and two exchanges

of notes) which entered into force provisionally on October 9
and is to remain in force until March 31, 1943. Exchange is to
be made for specific German goods c.i.f. value of 55 million
Turkish pounds of which the most important are 18 million war

materials, iron and steel (?) machines, means of transport,
thirty, and copper manufactures of which copper content is not

to exceed 1,000 tons two point five by Turkish goods of similar
value f.o.b. of which the most important items are 10 million
minerals and metals (copper, chrone "to be delivered after
January 15, 1943" and antimony), olive oil, seven, cotton seven,

mohair and other goats' hair six, skins five, and oleeginous

seeds four point five. Tobacco 20 million, figs six point five,
hazel nuts five point four, raisins three, fish two point five,
and other Turkish goods to total 41 million are to be exchanged

to the extent of 50% for German goods specified in first group
with

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with the exception of war material, copper manufactures and
sugar beet seed: and hardware, iron and other metal manufactures

and to the extent of 50% for any other sort of German goods.
A confidential exchange of notes provides for a margin
in each group of 10% of value of goods to be exported, although
the commercial agreement stipulates that export of Turkish
goods will be authorized to the value of German goods in
corresponding category arriving in Turkey in customs. The
meaning of this apparently is that the Germans could import
from Turkey at the beginning Turkish goods in group one to the

value of 5,500,000 Turkish pounds prior to the arrival in Istanbul of
any German goods. Either Government may take measures necessary

to restore equilibrium when the margin is exceeded according to

provisions in the agreement. It was agreed in a confidential
note that the Turkish Government would issue export licenses
to Germany for seven thousand tons of cotton, eight thousand

tons of olive oil, forty-five thousand tons of chrome and
twelve thousand tons of copper. It is worthy of note in this
connection that the export of copper, chrome and antimony to
Germany was not authorized under the previous Turkish-German

commercial agreement. There has also been an increase in the

quantities of olive oil and cotton.
Second. The two Governments agreed in a confidential
exchange of notes, to conclude before March 31, 1943 an
agreement concerning the delivery to Germany of Turkish chrome

to be effected up to December 31, 1944 on the following

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conditions: (1) in schedule 1-A the amount of war materials
specified must be entirely liquidated by delivery to Turkey
of the materials in the conditions the agreement specified:
(2) the two Governments will agree upon the further war materials
for which chrome to be exported from Turkey will form the

counter value: (3) exportation will be authorized by the Turkish
Government of an annual quantity of chrome amounting to ninety
thousand tons, for the periods from January 15 to December 31,

1943 and from January 1 to December 31, 1944, that is a total
from the 15th of January, 1943 to the end of 1944 of one hundred
and eighty thousand tons.

Germany is to deliver to Turkey these war materials:
heavy machine guns, forty relined Bochum guns, spare parts for
German planes, Krupp guns 7.5/60 with sights and ammunition,
Bochum guns 7.5/20 with ammunition, pontoons and engineering

material spare parts for trucks and motorcycles.

Third. In addition to payments arising out of commercial
exchanges, the payments agreement which is similar to 1938

agreement, covers financial transfers of all sorts between the
two countries. In a supplementary note provision is made for
the utilization of excess blocked funds in Germany of persons
residing in Turkey for the purchase by German banks for Turkish

account of obligations of the Anatolian Railway, Port of Maydar
Pasha and Turkish debt 1933 in circulation in Germany or in
German-occupied territories.
Copy:hr:10-23-41.

MACHURRAY

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GRAY
PM

Berlin
Dated October 17, 1941
REC'D 6:38 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

3798, October 17, 2 p.m.

This morning's press announces that in view
of the fact that German funds in America are frozen,
interest on dollar issues of the Dawes and Young

loans will no longer be transferred. Holders of
dollar issues of American C.S well C.S non-American

registry will bE paid by means of deposits to
their credit at the Treuhand Gesellschaft Von 133

MBH in Berlin. Special agreements in Effect will

not bE affected. Details follow in air mail
despatch.
MORRIS.
KLP

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE October 17. 1941
Chauncey

TO Secretary Morgenthau
For

FROM Mr. Dietrich

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
$44,000
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns LI 9.000

Open market sterling held steady at 4.03-1/2, and there were no reported

transactions.

The Canadian dollar, which closed at a discount of 11-1/4% yesterday, improved to a final quotation of 11% today.

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below
were as follows:

Argentine peso (free)

Uruguayan peso (free)
Venezuelan bolivar

.2360
.0505
.5775
.2070
.4650
.2670

Cuban peso

1/8% discount

Brazilian milreis (free)

Colombian peso
Mexican peso

Mexico.

We purchased $1,125,000 in gold from the earmarked account of the Bank of
No new gold engagements were reported.

In London, spot and forward silver were again fixed at 23-1/2d and 23-7/16d,
respectively. The U. S. equivalents were 42.67 and 42.55.
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35. Handy
and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 34-3/44.
We made no silver purchases today.

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M.I.D., W.D. 11:00 A.M., October 17, 1941

G-2/2657-220; No. 521

SITUATION REPORT

I. Eastern Theater.
Ground: Little definite information is available on the
progress of the fighting around Moscow. Powerful German forces
appear to be making steady progress.
North and south of Kharkov, the slow German advance
continues.

The Germans claim to have established a bridgehead
north of Taganrog.

The Rumanian High Command states that their troops
have penetrated the defense lines of Odessa.

Air: German sources claim that much damage is being done
against Moscow defenses during the present operations by air attacks.
They also report heavy activity against Leningrad and shipping outside Odessa.

II. Western Theater.
Air: Raids carried out by the R.A.F. last night were said
to have been widespread, including the Ruhr Valley and the invasion
port docks. German reports claim attacks on British shipping and harbor facilities, while the British say that no bombs were actually dropped.

III. Middle Eastern Theater.
Air: Reports from both sides indicate a successful bombing
by the R.A.F. of Naples. Malta and Benghazi were other objectives of

the British in this theater.

Ground: No significant information.

RESTRICTED

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MEMORANDUM

October 18, 1941.

TO:

The Secretary

FROM:

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Buffington and I called on Chairman Doughton this morning
and explained to him our purpose in sending to taxpayers the pamphlet

disclosing their tax liabilities. Mr. Buffington explained the pamphlet
and our objectives and the Chairman approved what we were doing.

After Mr. Buffington left the room I sounded out Mr. Doughton
on

the question of our assimilating into the national debt and directly

guaranteeing the obligations of the Federal agencies, which are now only
indirect obligations of the Federal Government. He was somewhat reluctant
to approve it but suggested that he would think it over this weekend and

call me on Monday.

Senator George was in Georgia. Senator Connally was in Texas.
Senator Barkley was out of the city. Senator McNary could not be reached.
I had a long conference with Senator Vandenberg who heartily
approved your contemplated action in regard to the obligations of the
Federal agencies which are guaranteed only indirectly by the Federal credit
but he thought that it would be a mistake to accord the same treatment to
the two billion two hundred million obligations of Federal agencies which

we do not guarantee either directly or indirectly.
I was leaving Senator Vandenberg asked me about Social Security. then
I knowAswhat
was going to be done about it. He

serious
to the
urged told that him you that
give I consideration
did very not consequences
Social Security of

syphoning off increased earning power through the medium of taxes

before you finally decided to do it. He said he thought that that would the
get the Treasury into the worst possible mess and that it would spell
end of Social Security as an insurance trust fund.

JhS

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Hold

Saturday- noon 60110,1941
REPORT ON NON-DEFENSE EXPENDITURES IN THE 1942 BUDGET

Submitted by the Bureau of the Budget
in Conformance With

Resolution of Senate Finance Committee,
Adopted on August 28, 1941

October 15, 1941

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REPORT ON NON-DEFENSE EXPENDITURES IN THE 1942 BUDGET

CONTENTS
Page

III. ALLOCATION OF COMMITTEE'S REDUCTIONS

A. Civil Departments and Agencies
B. General Public Works Program

C. Aids to Agriculture

5

3. Curtailing or Abolishing Functions
D. Legal Implications of Revisions

5

A. Base Used for Revisions
B. Magnitude of Revisions
C. General Aspects of Revising Estimates
1. Performing Functions More Economically
2. Adjusting Programs to Improved
Business Conditions

5

II. THE PROBLEM OF REVISING NON-DEFENSE EXPENDITURES

1

I. INTRODUCTION

7

8

8

12

13

15

17
18
19

D. Aids to Youth
E. Work Relief

22

F. Social Security

25

23

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APPENDICES

Appendix

Resolution of Senate Finance Committee

A

Items Classified as "National Defense" in the Budget

B

Documents for 1940, 1941 and 1942 and as of

October 1, 1941

Non-Defense 1942 Appropriations and Expenditures, and

C

Hypothetical Revisions to Cut Budget Estimates of

Expenditures by $1 billion, $1.5 billion and $2 billion

1942 Non-Defense Expenditure Estimates by Type of Commitment

D

E

F

G

H

Chart: Income and Industrial Production
Chart:

Employment and Unemployment

Chart: Prices, Cost of Living and Earnings
Reductions in Individual Programs Compared with Total
Reductions

K

Chart: Number of Persons Receiving Work Relief

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-I. INTRODUCTION

This report is in response to the Resolution of the Senate
Committee on Finance, requesting the Director of the Bureau of the

Budget to supply a revision of the estimated 1942 expenditures on the
assumption of an instruction to reduce non-defense estimates by $1

billion, $1.5 billion and $2 billion respectively, and, further, to
indicate changes made in the classification of defense or non-defense
expenditures since the submission of the 1940 Budget. The request of
the Committee is based upon provisions of the Budget and Accounting

Act which direct the Bureau of the Budget to furnish aid and information to the committees of the Congress having to do with the finances
of the Government.

The Resolution of the Committee specifies that the Director

shall submit his report by October 15, 1941. With this time limitation
it obviously has been impossible to prepare the equivalent of three
Budgets for 1942. An annual budget, as the Committee knows, contains

one thousand pages of detail and is the product of four months of
intensive hearings with every Department and agency of the Government.

Since it has been impossible to employ the usual process of hearings
and detailed examination of individual estimates, it must be assumed
that the Committee had in mind a hypothetical approach involving a
broad review of Federal programs to achieve arbitrary reductions of

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$1 billion, $1.5 billion and $2 billion.
This report is based upon such an hypothesis. The allocations
of the Committee's reductions must not be considered as recommendations

of the Director of the Budget for cuts in non-defense expenditures. It

should be clearly kept in mind that it is the responsibility of the
President alone to submit budgetary recommendations to the Congress.

In preparing the report many difficulties of definition and
classification .have been encountered. The Committee!s resolution implies
that the term "non-defense expenditures" has precise meaning and that

such expenditures can definitely be segregated in the Budget. In a

period of total defense effort such a segregation has little significance.
Even if the interpretation of defense were restricted to military activities, segregation of non-defense expenditures could not be made simply
and precisely.

For example, the beach patrol of the Coast Guard is paid from

the same payroll as its neutrality patrol in the North Atlantic. The
Tennessee Valley Authority, the Bureau of Reclamation, and the War
Department are transforming peace-time water control projects to meet
the power needs of defense. The Federal Trade Commission, the Interstate Commerce Commission, and the Tariff Commission are shifting their
normal programs in order to meet the demands for information essential
to defense. The General Accounting Office has an enormous new load of
auditing defense expenditures. The Bureau of Internal Revenue has the

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-3job of collecting new taxes. In every department of the Government

there are similar instances of the interrelation of "defense" and
"non-defense" activities.

Because of the magnitude of the defense portion of total
current expenditures, there has been a natural tendency to lump all
other expenditures under a general term "non-defense". In this approach,

directness of relationship to defense effort is the primary determining

factor in classification. Necessarily, this requires determinations
which are arbitrary. Such determinations as have been made are set

forth in a table in Appendix B in specific answer to the Committee's
request. There is but one item -- U. S. Maritime Commission Ship
Construction Fund -- included as "non-defense" in the 1940 budget and

subsequently changed to a national defense classification.

In summary, this report makes three arbitrary revisions of
the 1942 Budget, without regard to the function of the Bureau of the
Budget to estimate expenditures "necessary for the support of the
Government". It is apparent that many of the indicated downward re-

visions would seriously impair the defense effort and other vital
Governmental activities.

The normal process of budget building has not been followed.
The Departments have not been consulted; no hearings have been held; and

there have been no conferences with the President.

In response to the request of the Committee, the Director

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-4wishes to reiterate that three arbitrary revisions of a budget prepared
ten months ago should not be interpreted as recommendations with respect

to the remaining months of the fiscal year 1942 or in any sense as a
forecast of the President's Budget for 1943.

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II. THE PROBLEM OF REVISING NON-DEFENSE EXPENDITURES

The Resolution of the Senate Finance Committee (See Appendix A

for full text) requests detailed revisions of 1942 estimated expenditures
on the assumption that the Budget Director had been instructed to reduce

original 1942 appropriations by $1 billion, $1.5 billion and $2 billion.
The specific request is as follows:

such detailed revisions of the estimates of
expenditures for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1942,
as he would make if he had been instructed to prepare
three budget estimates for such fiscal year in which
the total annual expenditures for non-defense purposes
were less by one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000), by
one and one-half billion dollars ($1,500,000,000) and
by two billion dollars ($2,000,000,000), respectively,
than the total amounts appropriated for such non-defense
purposes for such fiscal year
.

"

A. Base Used for Revision

The Resolution of the Senate Finance Committee does not specify

the base for the requested revision. The Director of the Budget has
adopted as a base the estimates of expenditure in the original 1942
budget. Estimates of expenditures rather than appropriations have been
used because in many instances appropriations made for a fiscal year
may be spent in future years.
B. Magnitude of Revisions

The significance of the $1 billion, $1.5 billion and $2
billion reductions which the Senate Finance Committee has asked the

Budget Director to allocate can be easily underestimated if these

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-6amounts are related to total expenditures for defense and non-defense

of $25 billion for the fiscal year. On such a basis, a $2 billion cut
amounts to 8 percent of the total expenditures. The same cut applied
only to non-defense expenditures would amount to 30 percent.

The following table illustrates the general effect of the
reductions proposed by the Committee. The first column of figures

shows the percentages for over-all reductions of $1 billion, $1.5

billion and $2 billion, respectively, in total non-defense expenditures
of $6.6 billion for fiscal 1942. The second column gives the percentages if expenditures of $3,196 million that are "fixed" by contractual
and legislative commitments are excluded. Such exclusions amount to

almost 50 percent of all non-defense expenditures. Appendix D gives a
breakdown of non-defense expenditures according to the type of commitments.

It would not be reasonable to view all legal and legislative
commitments as sacrosanct when a drastic revision of important govern-

mental services is under consideration. Thus, balanced judgment would

seriously question a policy of cutting sharply into such important
items as expenditures for law enforcement, work relief, and the like,

while leaving untouched agricultural benefits or grants-in-aid for
Federal highways because they are based on prior commitments.

For these reasons the third column of the table gives the
percentage reductions if the exclusions of fixed commitments are

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veterans' pensions, and the other commitments enumerated in the footnote.

Percentage Reductions Required to Lower All or Part of
Estimated 1942 Non-Defense Expenditures by $1 Billion,

$1.5 Billion and $2 Billion

Reduction

Based on All

Over-all

Non-Defense

Reduction

$1.0 Billion
$1.5 Billion
$2.0 Billion

Expenditures after Excluding:
Certain Fixed
All Fixed
Commitments

Commitments *

15%

30%

22%

23%

44%

33%

30%

59%

44%

Expenditures

of

Reduction Rased on Non-Defense

These percentages indicate the drastic nature of the over-all

reductions of $1 billion, $1.5 billion and $2 billion posed by the Senate
Finance Committee. Because of their magnitude, the Budget Director in
distributing the over-all reductions among Federal programs, has assumed

that certain changes will be made in legislative and other commitments.
C. General Aspects of Revising Estimates

In arriving at the hypothetical revisions of estimates which
are presented in the following section of this report, certain general
considerations are relevant. In general, there are three major approaches
to budget reduction:

* The fixed commitments excluded are interest on the public debt,
veterans' pensions and insurance, transfers to trust accounts,
refunds, the Federal contribution to the District of Columbia, and
legislative and judicial establishments.

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-81. By performing functions in a more economical
manner through improvements in administrative
management;

2. By reducing economic and social aid programs

to adjust for improved business conditions;

3. By curtailing or eliminating functions.
1. Performing Functions More Economically
The Bureau of the Budget and the various departments and

agencies continuously study organization and procedures in order to

evolve more efficient and economical administration. Constant effort
is made to eliminate duplication and overlapping of functions.
Reductions in expenditures from further improvements in
government machinery will at best contribute in minor degree to any
major budgetary revision. Moreover, they may require considerable time
to become effective. In many cases improved administrative management

is reflected in the ability to carry an increased work load rather than
in a reduction of expenditures.
2. Adjusting Programs to Improved Business Conditions
(a) Improvement in production, employment and income.

Employment and income have increased markedly during the past year. This
increase has been even more rapid than was expected a year ago because

it has been necessary to expand and accelerate the defense effort. Hence

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-9the expenditures for certain programs will be lower than was planned

in the President's budget for the current fiscal year. The revisions
in this report are based on the assumption that the intensification of
economic activities could have been foreseen last December when the

original estimates were formulated, and would have been fully effective
throughout the fiscal year.
Various charts which picture the improvement in economic
activities are attached (Appendices E and F). Appendix E shows the

increase in agricultural incomes. Enlarged sales and increased prices
brought higher farm receipts. Because of this favorable development,

reductions of total payments for farm aid are incorporated in the overall reduction programs requested by the Senate Finance Committee.

General statistics showing improvement in income and production
are, however, somewhat deceptive guides for the revision of estimates.
The improvement of income and employment conditions is largely due to

the tremendous increase in defense production. Various parts of the
country, various groups of farmers, and various groups of labor are

differently affected by the defense effort. Defense "prosperity" is
spotty in its effects. There exist side by side scarcities for some
types of labor, and unemployment for other types; scarcities of some
farm products, and excesses of others; boom conditions in certain regions,

and slack conditions in others. Therefore, an improvement in agricultural
or employment conditions would not necessarily justify a corresponding

reduction in farm or relief programs.

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(b) Continuous adjustment to changing conditions. If, in
December of 1940, the improvement in business conditions could have

been fully foreseen, smaller appropriations for the economic and social
programs would have been recommended. This improvement has been cap-

tured in the process of budget administration.
Although the budget document is only submitted once a year to

the Congress, its execution is revised constantly. Budget execution is
a continuous economy drive. The President's recommendation to the

Congress in May of 1941 for the WPA appropriation for the current fiscal
year was $109 million below the estimate in the original budget document.
The lower figure contemplated that average WPA employment would be 23

percent below the average on which the original budget estimate was based.

The Administration can, within certain limits, adjust current
expenditures to changing needs. In apportioning available funds a certain

portion of the appropriations may be placed in reserve if it is believed
that a department or agency has appropriations in excess of actual needs.
This reserve is withheld until the department or agency can demonstrate

that the money is essential to its program.
For the fiscal year 1942 reserves of $450 million have been
established. This unusually large amount appears possible in the light
of improved business conditions. A larger reserve could not be established at this time without a revision of the functions and programs
which are the result of Congressional enactments.

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Even if intense economic activity persists throughout the
present fiscal year, the lowest of the three hypothetical figures
requested by the Committee implies curtailment of government functions.

(c) Price and wage increases. During the last year not only
production, employment and income, but also prices and wages have

increased. While an improvement in economic activities permits the
reduction of certain expenditures, price and wage advances may cause

a rise in other items.
The considerable increases in prices and wages during the

last year are indicated by the chart in Appendix G. In the downward

revision of estimates, the possible effect of price increases upon
government expenditures has been disregarded. First of all, price
increases affect defense expenditures much more than non-defense ex-

penditures. About 90 percent of defense costs are for weapons of all
kinds, food, equipment, and construction, which are immediately affected

by price rises. In contrast, only about 10 percent of non-defense expenditures are for direct purchase of material and equipment which are
immediately affected by price increases. Some other items, such as

rents and service contracts, will eventually be affected by price

increases, but the direct effects in this field are not yet of great
significance.

The effects of future price developments must be borne in

mind. If higher costs of living cause an increase in wages and salaries,

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a substantial rise in non-defense expenditures will take place. Thus,
it is likely that a part of the economies which are now possible are
only temporary and may subsequently be offset by increasing costs due
to higher prices.

3. Curtailing or Abolishing Functions

All three proposals for reductions involve curtailment or
abolition of some functions of government. In judging relative urgency

of functions it is inevitable that the following factors be taken into
consideration:

(a) Defense implications. Many expenditures of defense
importance are included in the so-called non-defense classification.
All government functions have more or less direct relationship to defense

in an era of total war and total defense. In many cases this relationship is so close that curtailment of the activity of a regular department
would necessitate reestablishing the same functions, possibly at a higher
cost, as an activity in some new defense agency. Numerous examples could
be cited.

On the other hand, it must be recognized that every possible

curtailment of non-defense use of labor and material that is needed for
defense must be effected. Postponement of non-defense construction may

be a definite contribution to national defense. This is a factor of
prime importance in any budget readjustment.

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- 13 (b) Post-defense aspects. Preparedness for the post-defense
period is an integral part of the whole program for the defense of democracy. During the last decade experiments were made and governmental

policies and instruments were developed for an effective fight against
depressions. It is essential to preserve and improve these instruments
so that they may be available for immediate use in the post-defense
period.

It must also be assumed that the normal functioning of the
government and the execution and enforcement of laws must be maintained.

It would, for example, be utter waste to wreck the machinery for law

enforcement now only to rebuild it later. The damage done to the welldeveloped operating machinery would be entirely out of proportion to
the immediate saving. Abolition of an agency would be preferable to
a drastic reduction which would leave an inefficient and demoralized
organization.

D. Legal Implications of Revisions
The President emphasized in the Budget Message of January,

1941, that almost half of non-defense expenditures are for so-called
"fixed commitments". These fixed commitments include contractual and

legislative commitments such as the payment of interest, pensions,
transfers to trust accounts and legislative commitments which cannot
be changed without amendment or repeal of statutes. In many cases,

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- 14 especially with respect to highway grants to State governments, commitments
are made a year or more in advance and curtailments could not become

effective immediately without breach of prior commitments. Although an
effort has been made to minimize the legislative changes implied in the

revisions of this report, the major revisions could not be made without
many such changes.

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III. ALLOCATION OF COMMITTEE'S REDUCTIONS

In allocating the hypothetical reductions requested by the
Senate Finance Committee, the Director of the Budget was guided by

the principles set forth in the preceding section, although different
weight can be given to the various criteria. It must be emphasized,
however, that the reductions discussed in this report are in no sense
a product of the normal budgetary process of request, review, and
recommendation.

The normal budget process could not be followed within the
framework of the Senate Finance Committee request. Reductions pre-

sented in this study have not been discussed with the agencies af-

fected nor do they reflect the policy of the administration. They
serve only as illustrations of a possible distribution of the overall reductions, required by the Committee, among the different
government agencies and programs.

To facilitate an understanding of the revisions by major types
of activities, a summary table of percentage reductions is presented
on the next page. The amounts of expenditures on which the percentages

are based are shown in Appendix C. Another table, Appendix H, indi-

cates the ratio of the three over-all reductions which has been allocated to each agency and program.

The following text discusses most of the major groups of governmental activities shown on the accompanying full page table.

159
- 16 REVISIONS OF ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES REQUIRED BY REDUCTIONS OF

$1 BILLION, $1.5 BILLION AND $2 BILLION SPECIFIED BY SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE*

Activity
(Current

Classification)
Legislative,
Judicial &

Estimated
Expenditures

in 1942 Budget

Percentage Reductions to Achieve Total Cut of
$2 Billion
$1 Billion
$1.5 Billion
Per Cent

Per Cent

Per Cent

(In Millions)
$41

0

0

0

Executive

Civil Departments
833

9.4

12.4

16.0

533

10.3

16.1

19.9

564

2.1

2.3

2.5

1,061

28.6

44.1

45.5

Aids to Youth

363

51.0

67.5

94.8

Social Security

463

0.6

1.3

11.0

1,034

31.6

49.3

73.9

and Agencies

General Public
Works Program

Veterans' Pensions
and Benefits

Aids to Agriculture

Work Relief
Refunds

0

89

0

0

Interest on Public
0

Debt

1,225

0

0

Transfers to Trust
Accounts

275

4.4

6.9

10.9

100

25.0

50.0

75.0

$6,581

15.2

22.8

30.4

Supplemental ItemsRegular

Total, excluding
debt retirement

These revisions reflect allocations of the total reductions posed by the
Senate Finance Committee, and are not to be considered as recommendations

of the Director of the Budget.

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- 17 A. Civil Departments and Agencies

To achieve over-all reductions of $1 billion, $1.5 billion,
and $2 billion, cuts of 9, 12 and 16 percent, respectively, of iriginal estimates of 1942 expenditures have been allocated to the general
category of civil departments and agencies. Related expenditures for
these services do not become less urgent because of improved business

conditions. Moreover, it must be remembered that many of the functions have direct and immediate importance for defense although they

are included in the so-called non-defense operations of the Government. Practically all Government agencies have reoriented their 80-

called non-defense activities to do their part in the defense program.
In many cases, this adjustment has occurred without special defense
appropriations or defense reimbursements.

The Census Bureau, for instance, supplies information essential
to many defense agencies. This work imposes a heavy additional burden

which it has been possible for that Bureau to assume only by reduction

of other activities. The work of the Bureau of Internal Revenue is
another example of a "non-defense" agency which has a greatly increased
work load.

Reductions which have been applied to the expenditures of many
of the independent offices and commissions would require postponing

or restricting established regulatory activities--as in the case of the
Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission, Securities
and Exchange Commission and the Interstate Commerce Commission. Other

reductions would necessitate greatly decreasing the number of services

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agencies as the Bureau of Standards and the Coast and Geodetic Survey.
The postponement of maintenance work on rivers and harbors would in-

crease expenditures in future years.
The Post Office Department showed an estimated deficit of
$51 million in the budget document submitted last January. Because

post office business has exceeded expectations, the deficit will be

smaller than anticipated. If the postal deficit were to be erased,
it would be necessary to raise postal rates or reduce services to
the public. With the increasing demand resulting from present busi-

ness conditions, the latter course is difficult. Nevertheless, the
$2 billion over-all cut might well require the elimination of the
postal deficit.
B. General Public Works Program.
The General Public Works Program would be cut 10, 16 and 20

percent, respectively, under the three reductions proposed by the
Senate Finance Committee.

In the original 1942 budget, public works expenditures were

cut 10 percent below the estimated expenditures for the fiscal year
1941. From the point of view of non-defense work the cut was even

greater because of a shift to large power and other projects essen-

tial to the defense effort.
Subsequent to presentation of the budget, it became necessary

to request additional appropriations for important public works projects

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such as new power projects under the Tennessee Valley Authority

and the Department of the Interior. These projects are classed as
"non-defense" expenditures, although they obviously spring directly
out of the defense program.

Reclamation, river and harbor, and public building projects,
not directly related to defense but already under way, were continued when stoppage would have meant waste. Their rate of construc-

tion is now being spread over a longer period of time than originally
planned. No new public works other than those vital for defense are

planned for the current fiscal year.
A big item in the public works program is the grants to states
for Federal highways. These expenditures, to a large extent, reimburse
states for the cost of work authorized and entered upon in the previous

year. A reduction in the 1942 estimates for this function would be
in conflict with legislative commitments.
Given all these circumstances, a further reduction in public
worksis practically impossible without curtailing works essential
for defense or breaking legislative commitments. Application of the
percentages of reduction mentioned in the opening paragraph of this
section would require elimination of items such as the appropriations

for public land highways, many activities of the TVA, and the preparation of projects which may be essential in a post-defense period.
C. Aids to Agriculture

Of the $1 billion, $1.5 billion, and $2 billion cuts, the

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- 20 tabulation shows that the Agricultural Aid programs would have to

contribute 29, 44 and 46 percent, respectively, of their original
budget estimates.

The original 1942 estimates were slightly below those for

the preceding year. The war in its initial period affected various
sectors of American agriculture in very diverse ways. Certain groups

of farmers faced increasing difficulties because of the loss of foreign
markets while other groups benefited from improved domestic conditions.
In December of 1940, when the original program for 1942 was formulated,

a small reduction in outlays for farm aid appeared reasonable. Congress,
however, went beyond the President's recommendations.

In recent months the agricultural situation has shown a marked
improvement as compared with conditions at the end of 1940. Influenced
by further increases in domestic purchasing power and to an even

greater extent by large scale food purchases for Great Britain, farm
incomes have risen rapidly (see Appendix E).

General improvement in farm conditions, extending to almost all

types of farmers, will permit a substantial reduction of Government aid
at some future time. The words "future time" are used because there is a
considerable interval between the time when farm conditions improve and

the date when reduction in farm aid payments is possible. Parity pay
ments are intended to make up for the disparity between the farm prices

of the preceding year and the parity prices of the same period. In
other words, the amount of payments made in fiscal 1942 depends largely

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Likewise, payments for conservation and use of agricultural
land resources cannot be suddenly curtailed without repudiating moral
obligations. The Department of Agriculture announces its program

in the fall so that the farmer can decide whether or not he intends
to participate in the program for the ensuing crop year. Thus, in

the late fall of 1940 payment rates for participating in the 1941
crop program were announced. These payments, in turn, will be made
out of funds provided by 1942 appropriations.

In order to achieve curtailments of the magnitude indicated
above, parity payments have been reduced by $50 million.
Payments for soil conservation have also been decreased by

$100 million in the first, and $250 million in the second and third
of the hypothetical cuts. The second and third reductions might
have far-reaching economic consequences. It must be remembered that
the Agricultural Adjustment program now aims at planned increases in

production of many commodities as well as curtailments in those crops

which contribute heavily to our major surpluses. It is possible that
a sharp reduction of this program would cost consumers more in the form

of higher prices than it would relieve tax burdens. This consideration does not preclude, of course, the possibility that'a lesser reduction in outlays may be feasible without impairing the fundamental
objectives of the program.

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In order to attain the total reductions it was also necessary
in each case to eliminate the annual appropriation for the disposal
of surplus commodities--$100 million in the original budget estimate

and $125 million in the actual appropriation. In all three revisions
a separate $100 million permanent appropriation was left untouched.
This is an amount equal to the 30 percent of customs revenue which is
permanently allocated to the Disposal of Surplus Commodities and

mainly used for financing the stamp plan and similar projects.

Elimination of the annual appropriation means, therefore, a
curtailment of the funds available for the stamp plan, free school

lunches, etc., by one-half of the original estimates for 1942. In
making such a revision it should be emphasized that these programs

have proved to be highly beneficial in improving the diet of low
income groups among our citizens.

The revisions for agriculture show only a slight increase under

the $2 billion cut, as compared with the $1.5 billion cut. A further
reduction would compel either repudiation of the commitments made for

parity payments or a change in the law permanently allocating an
amount equal to 30 percent of customs revenue to agricultural aid.

Otherwise the only other alternative would be disruption of the machinery developed for agricultural adjustment.
D. Aids to Youth

To achieve the three over-all cuts, reductions of 51, 68 and
95 percent, have been indicated for the youth program.

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- 23 A substantial contraction of the CCC and NYA programs is already
under way. Employment opportunities for youth have increased to such an

extent that the number of enrollees is decreasing. (See Appendix K).
This development has been taken into account in the reserve established
for 1942.

There still remains a body of American youth for whom these

programs provide worthwhile training and healthful activities. In the
larger perspective of national defense this work is not without significance.

Certainly there can be little doubt that some sort of youth
program will be necessary in the post-defense period. It would be
costly to wreck existing organization which may be urgently needed
later.

E. Work Relief

The original budget estimate for work relief in 1942 was 29
percent below the expenditures of the preceding year. Subsequently
the President recommended a further cut of about 10 percent in view
of increased employment. (See Appendices F and K).

To achieve the over-all cuts posed by the Senate Committee

work relief expenditures were reduced by 32, 49, and 74 percent of

the original estimates. In considering such further curtailment of
work relief, it must be remembered that the defense program has not

affected certain types of workers and certain regions of the country.
There are groups of people who are employable but who have great

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difficulty in finding employment even in a tight labor market because

their technical or other abilities do not fit the qualifications for
the available employment. Many such people are now producing useful
work on public programs.

The defense program is expected to absorb additional millions

of persons, but it is probable that, temporarily at least, increasing
defense employment will be wholly or partly offset by rising dismissals in the consumer goods industries which are forced to lower production because of the lack of material, machinery, transportation

facilities or skilled labor. While most of these people will be
eligible for unemployment compensation, needy persons who exhaust

their rights before new work is found will be eligible for WPA employment.

It also must be understood that 32 percent of present WPA
workers and 38 percent of WPA expenditures are for defense projects.
Whether WPA is or is not the most appropriate agency for such defense

work, the fact remains that elimination of such WPA defense projects
would necessitate the work being done by some other agency.

A major reduction in work relief may increase the number of
general relief cases which must be taken care of by state and local
governments. The question whether or not such a development is de-

sirable is related to the whole problem of Federal-state-local fiscal relations.

Under the $2 billion reduction program, about three-fourths
of work relief expenditures has been eliminated.

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- 25 F. Social Security

Reductions allocated to Social Security programs are relatively

minor--$3 million, $6 million, and $51 million, respectively, for the
three cuts of $1 billion, $1.5 billion, and $2 billion.
The 1942 budget provides for a 4 percent increase in Social
Security expenditures over the preceding year. The increase is caused

primarily by additions to federal grants necessary to match state payments to a rising number of aged persons and to match state payments
for increased assistance to dependent children.

The Social Security public assistance programs are not related

to defense, but are part of the declared long-range policy of the
Congress to aid the helpless indigent. The payments do not directly
reduce either labor or materials available for defense.
Like any income payment, assistance payments may contribute to

the inflationary pressure through making more funds available which
the recipients can spend. But by providing a minimum income to people
on the bottom of the income pyramid, such payments create purchasing

power which is used primarily for goods and services that are neither
scarce nor compete with defense.

In allocating the Committee's reductions this report has precluded revisions of certain fixed commitments such as debt service;
minimized reductions involving legislative changes; and avoided reductions which would disrupt law enforcement and other essential operations of the Government.

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- 26 Under this approach, those social and economic programs which

are not fixed by legal commitments, must bear the brunt of any major
reductions.

A substantially different result is obtainable only if the approach is changed. If, for instance, to make a $2 billion reduction,
veterans' pensions were cut, debt service reduced, and Federal grants-

in-aid curtailed, then it would be possible to preserve a substantial
part of the social and economic programs. Still other aproaches to
allocation of reductions are possible.
This report presents one schedule of revisions based on the
Resolution of the Committee.
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