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Book 412

June 23, 1941

-ABook Page

Agriculture
Farmers' individual income tax returns discussed
in Blough memorandum - 6/23/41
4-H Club Encampment:

HMJr's speech - 6/23/41
Program for meeting, 6/18-25/41

412

25

49,54
62

Allison Engineering Company

See Yar Conditions: Airplanes (Engines)

Appointments and Resignations

Birminghain, E. H.:

Collector of Internal Revenue, Iowa - FDR's
letter concerning - 6/23/41

327

Snyder, Ralph:

For Collector of Internal Revenue, Toledo, Ohio:
Correspondence between HMJr and Congressnan
Cochran - 6/23/41

328

-Birmingham, E. H.
See Appointments and Resignations
Business Conditions
Haas memorandum on situation for week ending
June 21, 1941

335

-Collector of Internal Revenue, Iowa
See Appointments and Resignations

Collector of Internal Revenue - Toledo, Ohio
See Appointments and Resignations
China

See War Conditions
Correspondence

Mrs. Forbush's resume' - 6/23/41

-DDefense Savings Bonds
See Financing, Government

323

-1Book

Page

Financing, Government

Reconstruction Finance Corporation: Discussion by
HMJr, Bell, Hadley, Haas, and Murphy - 6/23/41..
a) Federal Reserve Bank of New York
suggestion.

b) Welles consulted as to whether FDR or State
Department "has anything startling in mind"
c) Jones consulted
a) Reconstruction Finance Corporation
resolution with regard to proposed issue
e) Previous issues - Hadley memoranda
f) Announcement - 6/24/41: See Book 413, page 119
g) Subscription books closed - 6/25/41:

412

27,136
33,138
143
146

152,153
157,158

Book 413, page 193

h) Murphy "too conservative for first time" 6/26/41: Book 414, page 4
1) Jones and HMJr discuss success of issue 6/26/41: Book 414, page 70

1) Subscription figures announced - 6/27/41:
Book 415, page 73

k) Final subscription figures - 7/2/41:
Book 417, page 190

"Tax Series - Treasury Notes" - Bell memorandum 6/23/41
Defense Savings Bonds:

Treasury employees voluntary purchase plan:

First report - 6/23/41

Business firms participation reported on by Kuhn 6/23/41

-GGermany

See War Conditions

-IInternal Revenue, Collector of - Iowa
See Appointments and Resignations

Internal Revenue, Collector of - Toledo, Ohio
See Appointments and Resignations

Iowa - Collector of Internal Revenue
See Appointments and Resignations

-0 Ohio (Toledo) - Collector of Internal Revenue
See Appointments and Resignations

40

180
184

-RBook Page

Reconstruction Finance Corporation
See Financing, Government
Revenue Revision

Farmers' individual income tax returns discussed
in Blough memorandum - 6/23/41

412

25

-SSnyder, Ralph
See Appointments and Resignations
Speeches by HMJr

4-H Club Encampment speech - 6/23/41

50,54

a) Copies sent to newspapers in agricultural
areas - 6/24/41: See Book 413, page 161
Standard 011 Company of New Jersey

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control

-UUnemployment Relief

Work Projects Administration report for week
ending June 11, 1941

349

U.S.S.R.

For relationship between Oumansky and Soong,

see War Conditions: China

United Kingdom

See War Conditions: Military Planning
- W-

War Conditions

Airplanes:
Engines: Allison Engineering Company shipments 6/23/41
P-40's and Airacobras: War Department memorandum

on performance - 6/23/41

331,332
330

China:

Soong asked by HMJr to ascertain what Japan was

to get in connection with German attack on
Russia: HMJr tells Soong rumor is strong of
closeness between Oumansky and Soong; Soong

says "no longer" - 6/23/41

a) FDR reminded by HMJr of accuracy of
Soong's forecast as to Germany's plans

in regard to Russia - 6/23/41

Exchange market resume' - 6/23/41
Foreign Funds Control:
Standard 011 Company of New Jersey: Indications

20

21

334

of payments for oil sales by order of

Reichabank uncovered by Federal Bureau of

Investigation - 6/23/41

333

Germany:

German declaration of war on Russia: Cox
memorandum to Hopkins suggesting certain

specific United States action - 6/23/41

193

- W - (Continued)

Book Page

War Conditions (Continued)
Lend-Lease:

See also War Conditions: Purchasing Mission

Conference; present: O'Connell, Phillips, Keynes,
Childs, Cochran, Sir Clive Baillieu, White,
Coyne, Viner, Bell, Thompson, Archer, Elliott,
Boddie, Foley, Cox, and Malcolm - 6/23/41
a) Agenda for meeting.
b) Keynes correspondence on old and new
commitments

c) Notes on wool

d) British Air Commission requirements for
immediate future possibly requiring
United Kingdom dollars

e) List of British Air Commission 65/40
requisitions, April 12, 1941, to date
f) Civilian Technical Corps memorandum

g) Agricultural machinery: Distribution of
spare parts

h) Proposed forms for requisition of defense
articles
1) Raw materials and manufactured articles:
Estimates of certain United Kingdom
requirements from United States to
June 30, 1942

Military Planning:
Report from London transmitted by Halifax 6/23/41

412

206
279

199,200,201
280

291

292
295
297

298,300,308,309

302

360

War Department bulletin:

German armored formations in action - British
survey on - 6/23/41

Purchasing Mission:
See also War Conditions: Lend-Lease

Vesting order sales - 6/23/41

365

315,316

U.S.S.R.:

For relationship between Oumansky and Soong, see
War Conditions: China
German declaration of war on Russia: Cox memorandum

to Hopkins suggesting certain specific United
States action - 6/23/41
Wool

See War Conditions: Lend-Lease

Work Projects Administration
See Unemployment Relief

193

1

June 23, 1941
9:30 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Thompson

Mr. Blough

Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Kuhn

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Graves

Mr. Foley

Mr. Bell

Mr. Cochran

Mr. Viner

Mr. Odegarde

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

Ferdie, are you responsible for getting
me over there today to talk?

Kuhn:

Yes, sir. You had better leave about eleven
or five minutes past. Sorry.
(Mr. Viner entered the conference)

H.M.Jr:

Do you know where to go?

Kuhn:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Are you going to take me over?

Kuhn:

Yes, sir, if I may.

H.M.Jr:

Norman?

2

-2Thompson:

H.M.Jr:

I have a memorandum on Robert Crawford.

We have done all we can do, and he will
have to pass a Civil Service examination.
That is true of all emergency employees.

Would you write Mrs. Morgenthau a little

letter on that, please?

Thompson:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Let me have a copy of it.

Thompson:

I don't know whether you saw this picture
of how we do things in a big way in the

Treasury.
H.M.Jr:

Wonderful. What does that man do?

Thompson:

He is assistant chief of a section in the

H.M.Jr:

He is quite a fellow. (Laughter)

Loans and Currency Division.

(Mr. Odegarde entered the conference.)
Thompson:

I can't imagine sitting down to meals with

twenty people.
H.M.Jr:

Did you see it?

Klotz:
H.M.Jr:

I saw it in the paper.
No twins, either.

Thompson:

It is a nice looking family.

Klots:

They are nice children.

Thompson:

The Cadillac is all ready. I will send
up and get it this morning. Shall I have
it brought down here?

3

-3H.M.Jr:

Yes. Anything else?

Thompson:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

Harold?

Graves:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

I wrote a lot of stuff out. I will dictate
it afterward for you.

Harry?

White:

The minutes of the last meeting that we had
with the British are very voluminous and I
need them for the agenda. Do I have your
permission to have them?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. What else?

White:

You thought you might want to see Lubin.

H.M.Jr:

I have got a bad day today. Did you (Cochran)

make that appointment for Soong?
Cochran:

Yes, sir, ten-fifteen.

H.M.Jr:

What I need is time to go over that agenda
with you people. You see, I have press at
three.

White:

Well, we can have it done this morning, I
am sure. It won't be elaborate.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I will tell you what I will do. I
have got Gaier; supposing we have Gaier at
ten-forty-five, Mrs. Klotz. I could --

White:

I don't think you will need more than five

H.M.Jr:

I will see you at two-thirty, then.

or ten minutes.

4

-4White:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

And Harold, I want to try this. It may
not work, but I know this conflicts with
another appointment, but at two-forty-five

I would like you, Kuhn, and Odegarde and
Powel to come in, and I am going to have

a press conference at three. I want to

see what Powel can produce that he thinks

they can tell me in fifteen minutes that

he has been doing, and I will take my choice

out of the things of anything that I want
to use at my press conference, you see.

Graves:

This afternoon at two-thirty we are meeting
with the Post Office Department who have

brought in twelve postmasters from the field
at quite an important conference.
H.M.Jr:

You go and let Powel stay behind.

Graves:

You mean we will have Mr. Powel here with
you?

H.M.Jr:

Was Powel going over there?

Graves:

The conference was in this building.

H.M.Jr:

Well, he can come here at two-forty-five for
fifteen minutes.

Graves:

All right, I will have him do it.

H.M.Jr:

I want to tell Powel that I am going to
try this, what can he walk in here and say,
"Mr. Morgenthau, here are a half dozen

things that we would like to get in the

newspapers, you see." The last time Kuhn

had it all written out.

Kuhn:

It will be written out on that same subject
again today. There will be additional names,

5

-5I hope, of companies.
H.M.Jr:

Well other things - you see, as far as I
know, I don't know what Powel is doing.
I want to give him a chance to show me.

Is my contact, Harold, with Powel, supposedly
through you or through Kuhn or how is it,
anyway?

Graves:

Theoretically it is through me, but Mr. Kuhn

has been very kind and has taken on a good

many of these things that nominally belong
to me.

H.M.Jr:

Good. Well then, let's let those men walk

in here at two-forty-five. We will leave

you out.
Graves:

That is Ferdie and Powel?

H.M.Jr:

And Odegarde. But Powel should be put on
notice.

Graves:

I will tell him.

H.M.Jr:

Does he have a man? Chick Schwarz should

Graves:

Vince Callahan.

H.M.Jr:

The press?

Graves:

Yes, he is doing both radio and press.

H.M.Jr:

Have him here then, too. We will try it

be here, too. Does he have a man who is
supposed to handle the press?

once anyway.
Chick?
Schwarz:

The A. F. of L. sent over one of their posters
for you. I don't know if you have seen it.

6

-7 H.M.Jr:

Ferdie, you might have a dress rehearsal
for those people in your room.

Kuhn:

I will be glad to. It is a good idea.

H.M.Jr:

Has that poster gotten any publicity?

Schwarz:

Their original drawing, the one they showed
the President - it has taken them until now
to get the reproductions made. They have
been working at it rather strenuously.

H.M.Jr:

It is fair.

Schwarz:

Do you wish to say anything before press
conference on Pat Harrison?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I hoped somebody would have taken care

Schwarz:

I was listening for my telephone yesterday.

H.M.Jr:

Well I mean, it has always been done for

of that for me.

me. I took it for granted it had been done
by - Gaston has done it every other time.

Schwarz:

I didn't know whether Ferdie should write
it or me.

H.M.Jr:

You should have done it yesterday. That is

your responsibility. I am amazed that it

hasn't been done.
Schwarz:

We can do it right away.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. It should have been done yesterday.

Schwarz:

I didn't know about the writing of it, which

H.M.Jr:

way you preferred it.

It has always been done. Gaston has always

done it, and it has been given out.

7

-8Well, get it done this morning, between you
and Ferdie, will you please?
What else?
Schwarz:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

Peter?

Odegarde:

Nothing special.

H.M.Jr:

Did you spend a lovely week-end here?

Odegarde:

Nice and warm.

H.M.Jr:

George?

Do you people know that the plans of the WPA

are to drop four hundred fifty thousand
people? To put it another way around, they
were to get them down to a million people on

the rolls by July 1. This shows June 11, a

million four hundred twenty thousand. She
says they are going to drop four hundred
fifty thousand people in three weeks.
Blough:

I talked to some Indiana farmers yesterday.

I find they know very little about Defense

Savings Bonds and practically nothing about

the tax bill.

Viner:

Or anything else.

H.M.Jr:

That makes it unanimous.

Blough:

They don't like labor unions and they do
like the farm program.

H.M.Jr:

They do like what?

Blough:

They do not like labor unions. They are
extremely hostile to them. And they do like
the farm program.

8

-9Viner:

Do they know there is a war on in Europe?

Blough:

Yes, they know there is a war on and by

and large they are in favor of doing every-

thing we can to help and they very much

like the higher prices they are getting.
H.M.Jr:

They and me too. Well, we are going over

at eleven o'clock to tell these 4-H Club
boys - of which I am surprised there are
a million and a half, I say in my speech and
they are going to distribute literature
for us.
Let me read you something that was handed

to me on June 4. I can't reveal the source.
"According to current reports, the pre-

determined German plan to attack the Soviet

Union and to overthrow the Communist Government

will be carried into effect early in June.

Soviet Russia is increasing her supplies of
raw materials to Germany with the hope of

postponing the inevitable conflict. According
to the plans, the German army will advance
to the Volga River before September, in order

to finally solve the food question and to
seize new resources and industrial distribution."

I thought this fellow had it right. Isn't

that amazing? He is the only man that did.

We checked up in the State Department. Nobody

had it. This fellow had it right. I have

my own spy system. And it got to the President
the same day. I personally handed it to him.
Bell:

What date was that, April?

H.M.Jr:

June 4. And the only thing the State Department

had was June what, twenty, twenty-one?
Cochran:

I didn't go back beyond that. That was the
first specific thing they had, was on the

nineteenth.

9

- 10 H.M.Jr:

Where was I? You (Blough) were talking
about Indiana farm prices. How are the
crops out there?

Blough:

Very nice now. The drouth was very bad
earlier in the summer, but they looked
good all the way through Ohio and Indiana.

H.M.Jr:

Dr. Viner? Did you stay here Saturday
and Sunday?

Viner:

I went home.

H.M.Jr:

Harry, let Dr. Viner take a look at that
agenda before you bring it in to me, will

you?

And I, at the request of Mr. Bell, spoke
Saturday night to Mr. Arthur Purvis,

whether he or Maynard Keynes or Sir Frederick

Phillips had any objections to the Canadians
being present.

He said that whatever objections they may
have had were past. Mr. Clark could not
come because he had to see through their

Victory Loan.

He thought it would be a great mistake now
to tell the Canadians they couldn't come.
He also said that Mr. Keynes had been
extremely rude to the Canadians when he

was first here by telling them to keep
their mouths shut.

He didn't expect them to say anything.

10

- 11 But now that that thing had passed, he
thought to ask the Canadians not to
come would be very bad, and I said,

would he take full responsibility for
their being here, and he said he would.
So I think that that is that.
Bell:

It is all right.

H.M.Jr:

But he said he would take full responsi-

bility for them. And he thought it was

very good to have them here, very important.
Bell:

I think it is very good to have them here.

I was just questioning in this particular

conference whether you wanted to have them

separated.
H.M.Jr:

I said twice would he take full responsibility for the success of the meeting with
them present, and he said he would.

Ferdie?
Kuhn:

I have a couple of small things that I
would like to clear with you on the way

over to the meeting this morning.
H.M.Jr:

Thank you. I am very nervous on the way

over.
Kuhn:

Are you?

H.M.Jr:

And I am exhausted on the way back.
(Laughter)

11

- 12 -

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

Bell:

All these appointments you are making, when
are we going to do RFC financing?

I knew there was something I had to do this
morning. I knew I had something to do.
We ought to have five minutes anyhow to

raise half a billion dollars.

H.M.Jr:

We will have to shift Gaier. (Laughter) I
knew there was something.

Bell:

What time will you be back from your 4-H
Club meeting?

H.M.Jr:

Just as soon as Soong leaves.

Bell:

Ten thirty?

H.M.Jr:

Around ten thirty. I will phone you. Will

you be ready?

Bell:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

I will phone you.

Cochran:

I have two or three things here you might care

to look at. One is a letter that was written

to Mr. Bell enclosing one to you from Phillips
on British payments for French material. I
think you ought to see that before the meeting
comes up. Do you want it now?

H.M.Jr:

No, I don't want to bring that into this meeting.

Cochran:

Unless they might bring it up.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I will rule it out.

Cochran:

Do you want the minutes of the Thursday meeting we had or not?

12

- 13 H.M.Jr:

Yes, give them to Mrs. Klotz.

Cochran:

All right, and there are a couple of letters
I ought to give to Mrs. Klotz too.

H.M.Jr:

Fine.

Cochran:

Then there is a message here that came through
the State Department from Fox that you might

want to see. (Dated June 19, 1941)
H.M.Jr:

When White comes in I want that - White is

here at two thirty. I want Bell and Cochran
present too as well as White and Viner.

Cochran:

I think you ought to read the last paragraph

on the next page of this. (Memoran dum from
Mr. Cochran to the Secretary on June 21.)
H.M.Jr:

Well, the point was, he said to send somebody,
and I promised to send somebody. I didn't

tell him--

Cochran:

I don't know whether you had been specific
on that.

H.M.Jr:

By name? No.

Cochran:

That leaves it all right then.

H.M.Jr:

He just left it to me, but if they want to

send a name over, that they want to send Coe,

that would be agreeable to me. If they have

any doubts, let them send a telegram today.
Cochran:

No, I don't think they have any doubts at all.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it is easy enough to - why not do that?

Then there can be no doubts. Why not ask Mr.
Shaw to send Winant a telegram that we are

going to send Coe for a short visit?

13

- 14 Cochran:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Are you due on the Hill?

Sullivan:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

What time?

Sullivan:

Not until ten. I have plenty of time. I

wasn't able to get to Indiana, but I made some

inquiries on these Defense Bonds up in New
Hampshire, and I guess I must have talked with

between fifty and sixty fellows, and there

was just one out of the group who had not

bought a Defense Bond, and I have never known

that particular crowd to be so unanimous on
anything, and they all stressed just one
thing, and that was that if these weren't

good nothing in the country was and they were

buying them for security. I thought you might

be interested.
H.M.Jr:

Is this on the golf links?

Sullivan:

No, sir, this was at various times of the day
and night all around the campus.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, of course. I had forgotten that.

Sullivan:

I talked with Mr. Doughton this morning.
Apparently he feels that this thing has been

dallying a little bit too much.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, it isn't the heat that makes you look so
tuckered out then?

Sullivan:

Everybody I have met this morning remarked

on how well I looked. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

He had a class reunion.

14

- 15 Sullivan:

And he is not going to Pat's funeral,

although the family asked him to go, because
he feels he should stay here and get this

bill through and into the hands of the drafting service this week.

H.M.Jr:

Well I am toying with the idea of going to
the funeral. I can go down in five hours.

Sullivan:

I think you should, really.

H.M.Jr:

I am toying with the idea. I thought I

would wait and see what the White House does,

but I can go down in five hours. It is

nine hundred eighty miles.
Sullivan:

I think the funeral is--

H.M.Jr:

Two thirty.

Sullivan:

Tomorrow afternoon?

H.M.Jr:

Wednesday.

Sullivan:

And that is Central Time, too.

H.M.Jr:

That is right.
Well, when I said five hours, I meant flying
time.

Sullivan:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

It is one hour. We are Standard, aren't we?
I wonder if they are on Daylight.

Sullivan:
Foley:

I don't know. I will find out for you if you

want to know.

Probably not. That part of the country is
not on Daylight Time. They are an hour earlier.

15

- 16 H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

You think I should go, just like that?
Yes, sir, I do.
Well, I am toying with it anyway. At least
I have got the fellows all working on the
airport,
other one.which airport, Biloxie or the
What about you?

Sullivan:

What?

H.M.Jr:

Going?

Sullivan:

If Mr. Doughton doesn't feel he can go - you
might take him. I would be delighted to go
along with you.

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

You fellows are all so busy, but I have got
nothing to do. (Laughter)
I wondered if you would get it.

I get it all right. Just a stuffed-shirt,

am I? O.K. If I go, you go, believe me.
(Laughter)

Sullivan:

That is all right, too. I will settle for

that. I was afraid I would have to go alone.

H.M.Jr:

As a matter of fact, not to get off, I was

going to ask you to go to keep me company.

I thought it would be fun to have you with

me.

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:
Foley:

I would be delighted to.
Ed?

We have the telegrams ready, whenever the
White House issues the proclamation recognizing

16

- 17 a state of war between Germany and Finland
and Russia. We also can have the general

license for Russia ready this morning, to
go with a press release that we think

favorably of it, which would tie in with

Churchill's speech yesterday, and say,
"Now, there can be no doubt in our minds that
Russia will not be used as a means of evading

H.M.Jr:

the terms of the order for Germany and Italy."
Listen, as far as I am concerned, there is
no hurry about Russia. I don't change from
one day to another. Can I repeat what you
told me about it?

Cochran:

Surely.

H.M.Jr:

I had Cochran go over to see the State Department and check up and they asked - they
served notice on Oumansky the middle of last

week - is that approximately right?
Cochran:

A few days ago.

H.M.Jr:

That certain members of the Embassy or Consular

staff were no longer welcome in this country,

and the answer that Oumansky gave was so outrageous that the State Department wouldn't

receive it and they returned it to him.

Now, as far as I am concerned, I am in no

hurry to do anything about Russia. It is

six of one and seven of another, as far as
I am concerned. One day it is the Ogpu and
the next day it is the - what is the German

police?

Sullivan:

Gestapo.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. So I just would sit tight.

17

- 18 Foley:

There were some things in the paper--

H.M.Jr:

I know.

Foley:

About the Treasury officials. I don't know
who they spoke to. They talked to neither
Bernie nor me.

H.M.Jr:

What did they say about Treasury officials?

Foley:

Well, a general license would be given to
Russia now according to Treasury officials.

H.M.Jr:

Six months ago the President told me he wanted

to stay on the fence as long as possible. He
said he didn't care what the cost. Mr. Hull

raised one of his worst rumpuses he has raised
as far as I am concerned since I have been

here. He didn't want anything to do, and

since then they have done everything possible
to drive them into the arms of the Japanese
and the Germans, and I put it up to the President that we should bribe them, do business
with them in any way to keep them neutral,

and I believed it then and I thought it was

good policy, but Mr. Hull and Mr. Welles
didn't and it was one of the worst rows that
ever took place in Washington. I was right
then. I am right now. But I am not going

to rush into this thing.

Foley:

Well, I brought it up only because there

might be some discussion this morning.
H.M.Jr:

Well, let Mr. Hull come out and kiss the
Russians on both cheeks.

Foley:

If they don't want to go all the way and give

them Lend-Lease help.
H.M.Jr:

And please, everybody, sit back and wait. Let

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- 19 -

Mr. Hull kiss the Russians first. I mean,
I can't be a weathervane. It is one thing
to bribe them and try to keep them neutral

and try to keep peace in the Pacific. I
think that is good diplomacy. But when it
comes to this thing, let's just sit tight
and see. But I am glad you are ready. I
mean, I will never get over that episode.
What was it, about six months ago?
Klotz:

At least that.

H.M.Jr:

Before election, but that was what they
used on me. It must have been a month or
two before the election. I mean, there was
even talk of Hull resigning at that time.
So we will wait.

Well, Dan, we will do financing at ten

thirty? We can see how the market is and so
forth and so on.

Bell:

The market has started up. Stock market and

bond market both.
H.M.Jr:

Good.

Bell:

We are also ready to discuss the tax note,
but maybe you would like to have a memorandum

on it that you can take home tonight?

Sullivan:

I would like to have that conference at a time
when I can attend. They are asking me a lot

of questions up there about it, if it can be
conveniently worked out.

Bell:

I can tell you about it in five minutes.

Sullivan:

All right. Well, then, you go ahead and have
your conference and I will see you.

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- 20 Bell:

I can give you (Secretary) a memorandum you
can take home tonight.

H.M.Jr:

Norman, who should be here representing Gaston?
He represents so many people.

Thompson:

I imagine Huntington Cairns would be the best

one.

H.M.Jr:

Well, tell him to be here tomorrow, will you
please?

Thompson:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And tell him I am counting on him to look

after things, will you?

Thompson:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

That he should know what is going on, please.
Thank you all.

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June 23, 1941

NOTE: During my conversation with Soong, I said
what I wanted him to try to find out was what plans the
Japanese had. I said, "After all, when Matsuoka saw
Hitler, he must have made certain demands on Hitler and
among those were that Germany attack Russia and that if
that was done, Japan would then feel free to do some-

thing. What I want to know is what is that 'something'.'

He said he would get off a cable at once to Moscow, Chungking and Berlin and see what he could get for me.

I said, in just so many words, that I understood
he was close to Oumansky, the Russian Ambassador, and

couldn't he find out something from him, particularly

as Oumansky had undoubtedly been collaborating very

closely with the Germans in this country. So Soong
told me (showing how smart he is) that there had been

gossip that he had been too close to Oumansky; that he
no longer saw Oumansky on account of the criticism, but
he would try and see him and see if he could get any information for me.

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June 23, 1941

My dear Mr. President:
This morning I got out the enclosed memorandum
which had been handed me by Mr. T. V. Soong on June 4.
You will undoubtedly remember that I gave you a copy

of the same at lunch on that day.

I want to draw your attention to the second para-

graph on page 2, where Mr. Soong's informant forecast
100% correctly what the Germans plans were in regard
to Russia.

Mr. Soong called on me today, at my request, and

I have asked him to try to get additional information.
He cautioned me to keep this information as confidential
as possible as his informant's life was at stake.
Yours sincerely,

The President,
The White House.

22

June 23, 1941

My dear Mr. President:
This morning I got out the enclosed memorandum
which had been handed me by Mr. T. V. Soong on June 4.
You will undoubtedly remember that I gave you a copy

of the same at lunch on that day.

I want to draw your attention to the second para-

graph on page 2, where Mr. Soong's informant forecast
100% correctly what the Germans plans were in regard
to Russia.

Mr. Soong called on me today, at my request, and

I have asked him to try to get additional information.
He cautioned me to keep this information as confidential
as possible as his informant's life was at stake.
Yours sincerely,

The President,
The White House.

23

June 23, 1941

My dear Mr. President:
This morning I got out the enclosed memorandum
which had been handed me by Mr. T. V. Soong on June 4.

You will undoubtedly remember that I gave you a copy
of the same at lunch on that day.

I want to draw your attention to the second para-

graph on page 2, where Mr. Soong's informant forecast
100% correctly what the Germans plans were in regard
to Russia.

Mr. Soong called on me today, at my request, and

I have asked him to try to get additional information.
He cautioned me to keep this information as confidential
as possible as his informant's life was at stake.
Yours sincerely,

The President,
The White House.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 23, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
At the Staff meeting this morning I handed to the Secretary my memorandum
addressed to him under date of June 21 reporting my conversation with Assistant
Secretary of State Shaw concerning the temporary assignment of Mr. Frank Coe to

London. I pointed out particularly to the Secretary the question raised in the

final paragraph of my memorandum, as to whether the Secretary had discussed with
Ambassador Winant the proposal for sending Mr. Coe. The Secretary told me that
he had talked over with Mr. Winnet the general question and had promised to send
him someone, but had not specifically mentioned Mr. Coe. The Secretary desired,
therefore, that I suggest to Mr. Shaw that he cable Ambassador Winant to see whether
the arrangement of sending Mr. Coe would be acceptable to the Ambassador. Upon
coming out from the meeting I telephoned Mr. Shaw, but did not reach him until

10:45. I then reported to him my instructions from the Secretary. Mr. Shaw said
he would send an appropriate cablegram to Ambassador Winant today and would let

me know the result.

XMP

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June 23, 1941

AAA

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

From:

Mr. Blough

Subject: Individual income tax returns filed by
farmers.

(1) In 1936 approximately 79,000 individual
returns showed income or loss from "agriculture and

related industries. Thus, roughly one out of seventysix farmers filed a Federal income tax return as compared with one out of every four income recipients for
the Nation as a whole.
(2) While there may have been some conscious or

unconscious evasion, the small fraction of farmers

filing income tax returns is explainable by the low
cash receipts and cash profits of individual farmers.
Cash receipts were estimated by the Bureau of Internal
Revenue to average slightly over $1,100 in 1936 and

cash profits from farm operations to average less than

$250. Both of these amounts are far below the filing
requirements in effect at that time (net income of $1,000
for single persons and $2,500 for married persons, or
gross incomes of $5,000 in either case).

26

-2(3) The number of returns filed by farmers for

1940 is expected to be greater than in 1936. The filing
requirements have been reduced (gross income of $800 if

single or $2,000 if married). If returns reporting farm
income (or loss) follow the pattern for businesses
generally, the number for 1940 will be double the number
for 1936.

(4) Farmers receive more income in kind than do
persons in other occupations but even so the estimated

income of farmers is lower than that of non-farm families.
For 1935-1936 a National Resources Committee study indi-

cated that 13 percent of the 6,166,558 non-relief farm
families had "consumer incomes" of $2,000 or more as com-

pared with 28 percent of the non-relief non-farm families.
"Consumer income* includes, in addition to net income for

tax purposes, certain income in kind (for example, food
produced and consumed on the farm), together with imputed
income from the use of owned houses.

(5) Farmers, of course, pay heavy property taxes.
The Department of Agriculture estimates that 70 percent

of the taxes paid by farmers are in the form of property
taxes and that the tax on farm real estate makes up 85
percent of the total property taxes paid by farmers.

RB

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June 23, 1941
10:40 a.m.
RE FINANCING

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Hadley
Mr. Murphy
Mr. Haas

Hadley:

The market has gone up, both stocks and

bonds.

H.M.Jr:

Well, where can we go, Dan?

Bell:

Well, I talked to Rouse at nine-fifteen and
he said he had talked to the three big banks.
The Guaranty Trust Company, which holds

seventy-four million of the maturing issue,
said a three year, one percent. City said
a three year, one percent. Chase said three
and a half years at one percent, and if you
wanted to be conservative, three years at

one percent.

I just talked to him again and he said Garner
of the Guaranty and Burgess of the National
City had not changed on a three year, one
percent. Chase had changed theirs. Green,
who usually handles the market over there,
is away. They have come down now to two
and a half years at one percent
and a three
percent
years one and an eighth percent. (Laughter)

Rouse thinks the three year, one percent
will go and so does Ben Levy. Our boys

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-2-

think it is a little thin, although they

are not far apart on the premium. Rouse

says about ten thirty-seconds for it.

H.M.Jr:

Well now, between January and February '44?

Bell:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And now you are talking --

Bell:

Now it is a question of whether it will be
somewhere between January and February '44,

or July '44.
H.M.Jr:

Another year out?

Bell:

No, just a half year.

H.M.Jr:

January to where?

Bell:

July, is six months. Piser says that he thinks

that April '44 is about right and will give

you about a half point premium and there
isn't any difference between our boys and
Piser on that.
H.M.Jr:

That isn't three years, is it?

Bell:

That is three years and a quarter.

Murphy:

Two and three quarters.

Bell:

Two and three quarters.

H.M.Jr:

How does the picture look as to gaps there?

Haas:

January and February are the best.

Bell:

January and February is the best place.

H.M.Jr:

I would rather go out further.

Bell:

Here are your two real gaps. When you get

29

-3to April you have got a billion and a
half of Treasury bonds callable. They
don't mature until down here in '46, but
they are callable there and I don't think
we would like to go up to that date with
the refunding of a callable bond. We can

do it back here, maybe in December. May

is full of callable issues, you see.

H.M.Jr:

What is "T.N."?

Bell:

Treasury notes. Now, July is --

H.M.Jr:

How about August?

Bell:

August '44? Well, that is blank, but that
would be a little too far. The only other
one would be back here in '43. November

is vacant. The best date is really right
there in April if we want to ignore the

Treasury issue.
H.M.Jr:

What would be a good rate if we put it
through in January?

Hadley:

If you could do it at seven-eighths, you

would get about eight thirty-seconds
premium.

Bell:

That is a little thin in view of this situation

H.M.Jr:

Yes, that is too thin.

Bell:

And on a one percent, January-February, you

in the world.

would get somewhere between seventeen and

twenty thirty-seconds, wouldn't you?

H.M.Jr:

That is too fat.

Bell:

It is a little fat, but you might need it

pretty fat.

30

-4H.M.Jr:

Well, if you want three years, that would

Bell:

No, it would be July. It would bring you

H.M.Jr:

Well, what have you got there?

Bell:

Well, we have got eight hundred seventyfive million dollars of Home Owner's Loan,

bring you out here.

here. We would make it July 15, you see.

a hundred and thirty million of Federal

Land Banks, and a hundred and forty-eight

million -H.M.Jr:

You couldn't stretch it to August?

Hadley:

You would only have about eight to ten

H.M.Jr:

Do you want to do it in June?

Bell:

That is our place that we have four hundred
million up. We had better keep our own
dates open if we can.

H.M.Jr:

Oh yes.

Bell:

I wouldn't mind putting it there, because I
think we will either do one of two things.
We will pass over that. The market will be
such we will have to pass over it or we

thirty-seconds at the best.

will call it and we will refund it at some

prior date.
H.M.Jr:

That seems a little fat, doesn't it, April?

Hadley:

April would give you about half a point.

H.M.Jr:

Isn't that a little fat?

Hadley:

The last one ran around twenty, but then

there were just - those were the first issues.

31

-5Bell:

You have got a history of it, George.

Haas:

I have got the history of these.

H.M.Jr:

I tell you what I would like to do, gentlemen,
with this thing. We haven't announced that

we were going to do it Tuesday, have we?
Bell:

No, you said the first of the week.

H.M.Jr:

Is there any reason why I can't do it
Wednesday and let this thing settle a

little bit?

Bell:

Not at all.

Hadley:

I don't think the market on this type of

Bell:

It hasn't changed this morning. The short

issue will change much.

market hasn't changed.
H.M.Jr:

It hasn't?

Bell:

No, sir. The long market went up about a

quarter, didn't it, about eight thirtyseconds? It is back now to about four.

H.M.Jr:

You weren't talking April before.

Haas:

About two thirty-seconds, I think.

H.M.Jr:

Is Rouse in?

Bell:

Yes. I told him you might call him. I

don't know how much he has spread the word

that we were going to do it tomorrow.
H.M.Jr:

We will find out.

Bell:

He says a postponement, he thinks, will do

more harm than it will good. The Street

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will take it as bearish.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation
with Mr. . Rouse as follows:)

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June 23, 1941
10:47 a.m.

HMJr:

Robert

Hello.

Rouse:

Good morning sir.

HMJr:

Hello, Rouse, how are you?

R:

First rate, how are you sir?

HMJr:

Good.

R:

Fine.

HMJr:

I'd like to ask you a couple

questions. Number one, does

the Street expect us

Tuesday?
R:

I think so.

HMJr:

You do?

R:

Yes. It's Tuesday - they're

thinking in terms of Tuesday
or Wednesday. If they didn't
come tomorrow, there'd be no

upset.
HMJr:

R:

Well, what I was thinking about,
would it be worth while waiting
till Wednesday to let this thing
shake down a little bit?

Well, I think that would probably

be all right, but I wouldn't let
any idea get out that you were
going to postpone it because I

think that would disturb the
market. They'd think that you
were taking it more seriously
than the market was.

HMJr:

Well, as

......

34

-2R:

They were more favorable of -

HMJr:

of it to affect the market.
Has it affected the short-term

R:

No, that remains unchanged, the

something bad might come out

market much?

long-term market, of course is
stronger and the stock market
is stronger, although they! re
both - the long bond market and
the stock market are off their
highs.

HMJr:
R:

HMJr:

A - they are off their highe?
Yes, sir.
Let me ask you this, what is
your spot, if you had to pick
a spot right now?

HMJr:

I'd pick a 3 year 1%.
Well, where would that put it?

R:

At July 44.

HMJr:

Well, we are kinda crowded there

R:

but - oh, oh, I see, well, what's
that leave? Well, that makes you think that - how much margin
is there?

R:

How much margin?

HMJr:

Yeah.

R:

I should think there'd be at
least 3/8 and it might & to 5/8.
Now the chart, if you figure it
out on the charts, it doesn't
show that much. We figure about

90 to 86 yield on the charts and
that's not as liberal. I talked
to the three big banks here Friday

35

3

afternoon and got a pretty
definite expression of opinion

of the 3 year 1. The Chase just
now called me and expressed an

idea that 3 year 1 and 1/8 and

an average yield of 90 for that
basis which is 10/32, but they

are the only - I've talked with

Burgess and with Garner also in
the past half hour and they

reiterated their view of a 3 year 1.
The Guaranty has 74 million rights
and they said a 3 year 1 would be

right down their alley.

HMJr:

Where would the Chase put it?

R:

At 1 and 1/8 for 3 years, or a

HMJr:
R:

1% at January 44.

Well, what does Garner say?

Garner says 3 years, July 44,
1%, he figures it's worth at
least 85, which is 14/32 with

a possibility of 80 which is
19.

HMJr:

Now, I tell you what I'd do....

R:

He's the biggest single factor

HMJr:

in this thing incidentally.
Yeah. We'll call you up at 2:15,
my time.

R:

HMJr:

Right.

And at that time, we'll settle
it.

R:

Thank you sir.

HMJr:

See?

R:

I'11 be in Allan's - I'11 make it
a point to be in Allan's office.

36

HMJr:

Yeah, do that will you?

R:

Right.

HMJr:

I'll talk to both of you.

R:

Thank you, sir.

HMJr:

Thank you.

37

-7H.M.Jr:

Supposing I call up Jesse?

Bell:

I called him after our conference the other
day and told him we did not want to split
it and it looked at that time as though
it might fall in January or February 44,
and we would get the one percent rate on
the entire hundred million and he was satisfied.

Haas:

Why don't you in the suggestion to Mr. Jones
say it will be somewhere between January
and July, because these pricings --

Bell:

I thought that was what you said.

Haas:

He said April. Because these prices - the
premium, there is a good deal of guessing

in it. They haven't got points to base
it on.

H.M.Jr:

Don't you think they can go to July?

Haas:

Oh, I wouldn't do it. It could go, sure,
but the risk is too great.

H.M.Jr:

How great?

Bell:

Well, they are telling you that the premium
might be eight to ten thirty-seconds. That

is the way they figured it out. But they
think it will go better than the way the

books show.
Murphy:

And Chase says one and an eighth?

H.M.Jr:

If we are not all together, I don't want to
go out. I don't give a damn --

Haas:

I wouldn't worry about the premium.

Hadley:

The extra months don't save you anything in

38

-8money. The same rate applies, one percent,
unless you want to go shorter and take
seven eighths.

H.M.Jr:

No, no.

Haas:

Here are the premiums you have paid before.
The second sheet also has them.

H.M.Jr:

You fellows feel April?

Murphy:

I feel January, myself.

H.M.Jr:

Oh nuts!

Bell:

That is the month we picked, January and
July.

H.M.Jr:

January, one percent?

Murphy:

January 15, yes. I get a premium of eighteen
on it. That may be conservative, but --

H.M.Jr:

No, I think you had a bad week-end. What
do you think, George?

Haas:

Well, I lean toward Henry. I would go I wouldn't feel badly if you did it January.
It might go February. I feel that the quote
is ten thirty-seconds in the different
premiums, but I know by looking over the

prices they have to base it on, it is just
an assumption.

They may be right and we are wrong, and it

would turn out if you did it February - say

we have twenty-five thirty-seconds premium.

Well, that wouldn't be any calamity, but
it certainly would be a calamity if something went wrong with those things.

H.M.Jr:

Where are you?

39

-9Hadley:

I think that April is probably about the

best premium we should give them.

Bell:

The least premium?

Hadley:

I mean the most we should give them is about

April. We can go out to July, but I think

Bell:

that is a little thin.
I think so, too. I think it is either

H.M.Jr:

Well, I will see you again at two-fifteen.

Bell:

Are you going to decide then too whether
you are going to do it tomorrow or wait
until Wednesday or have you pretty well
made up your mind that you are going to

February or April.

do it tomorrow?

H.M.Jr:

My inclination is to do it tomorrow. Do
I have to get the President to sign it?

Bell:

No. I want to kind of keep the machinery
going in the form of notes and draw up the
forms.

H.M.Jr:

Well, can't you do that and still settle it

Bell:

Oh yes.

H.M.Jr:

Let's say now we will do it tomorrow.

Bell:

All right. Suits me fine.

at two-fifteen?

40

Bell's three page memo (dated 6/23) entitled TREASURY NOTESTAX SERIES" with two tabulated pages, "TREASURY NOTES - TAX SERIES A-1942"

nd "TREASURY NOTES - TAX SERIES B-1942" sent to Mr. Lauchlin Currie

t 11:50 a.m., June 24. (Returned June 25)

41

TREASURY NOTES-TAX SERIES

It is recommended that we issue two series of notes as outlined

below, both dated July 15. 1941. In view of the fact that we are
starting the program in the middle of the calendar year, it is recommended that these series mature December 31, 1942, approximately 18

months instead of 2 years after the issue date. On January 1st of
each year hereafter two new series should be provided so that a taxpayer can always purchase notes in advance to cover two years taxes.

All notes are to be sold at par and accrued interest, if any, and
will be redeemed at any time when presented in payment of income taxes

at par and accrued interest up to and including the month in which such

taxes are paid. If not presented in payment of income taxes, they will
be redeemed under certain specified conditions at par and accrued in-

terest, if any, up to the date of purchase. In other words, the taxpayer,
in this case, gets back just the amount he paid for the notes and no

more. The notes will not be registered, but will have the purchaser's
name and address inscribed thereon so that the Collector of Internal
Revenue can compare this name with that on the tax return. They will
not be transferable.
TAX SERIES A-1942

Denominations will be $25. $50. $100. and $1,000. The amount of
this series which can be presented in payment of income taxes will be

limited to $1200 in any one tax year. The notes will provide a return
of 2.40 per cent a year, but the return will not be expressed in terms

42
-2of percentage. For a $25 denomination, it will be expressed at 5 cents
a month, $50 denomination at 10 cents a month, and so on for the other
denominations. By following this method it is made simple to compute
the cost when the taxpayer purchases the notes and simple both to the
taxpayer and the Collector of Internal Revenue to compute the credit
that may be applied to the income taxes due. There will be a schedule
of values printed on the face of each note. (See attached schedule showing the purchase price and the tax payment values for each month from
July 1941 to December 1942.) These notes will be redeemed for cash at

any time at the purchase price.

It is realized that this rate of return (2.40%) is considerably out
of line with two-year money rates, but it should be a real inducement to

the taxpayer, particularly the small ones, to save his taxes currently
as he earns his income rather than paying his taxes due on this year's

income out of next year's income. The rate is not too much out of line
with the rate paid in some cases on savings accounts and the rate paid

on postal savings deposits. Anyway, it gives the taxpayer a break and
he pays the bill in the end.
TAX SERIES B-1942

Denominations will be $100, $500. $1,000, $10,000, and $100,000.
Other denominations can be made available if a need for them is shown.

There is no limit on the amount of these notes which can be presented
in payment of income taxes. The Secretary will, however, reserve the

right to reject any and all subscriptions. It is necessary to keep this

42
- -2of percentage. For a $25 denomination, it will be expressed at 5 cents
a month, $50 denomination at 10 cents & month, and 80 on for the other

denominations. By following this method it is made simple to compute
the cost when the taxpayer purchases the notes and simple both to the

taxpayer and the Collector of Internal Revenue to compute the credit
that may be applied to the income taxes due. There will be a schedule
of values printed on the face of each note. (See attached schedule showing the purchase price and the tax payment values for each month from
July 1941 to December 1942.) These notes will be redeemed for cash at

any time at the purchase price.

It is realized that this rate of return (2.40%) is considerably out
of line with two-year money rates, but it should be a real inducement to
the taxpayer, particularly the small ones, to save his taxes currently
as he earns his income rather than paying his taxes due on this year's

income out of next year's income. The rate is not too much out of line
with the rate paid in some cases on savings accounts and the rate paid
on postal savings deposits. Anyway, it gives the taxpayer a break and

he pays the bill in the end.
TAX SERIES B-1942

Denominations will be $100, $500, $1,000, $10,000, and $100,000.
Other denominations can be made available if a need for them is shown.

There is no limit on the amount of these notes which can be presented
in payment of income taxes. The Secretary will, however, reserve the

right to reject any and all subscriptions. It is necessary to keep this

43
-3control in order to prevent their use for a purpose not intended. The
notes will provide a return of 3/5 of 1 per cent (0.60%) a year, but
here, as in Series A, the rate percentage will not be expressed. It
will be stated as 5 cents a month for a $100 denomination, 25 cents for
a $500 denomination, and so on. There will be a schedule of values
printed on the face of each note. (See attached schedule showing the
purchase price and the tax payment values for each month from July 1941

to December 1942.) These notes will be redeemed for cash after sixty
days and upon thirty days advance notice at the purchase price.

It might also be argued that this rate (0.60%) too is out of line
with two-year money. We probably would have to pay 3/8 of 1/2 per cent

if offered in the market, but these tax notes are not transferable and

therefore a slightly higher rate can be justified.

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TREASURY NOTES - TAX SERIES 1-1942

:

Purchase Price and Tax Payment Values on each Denomination
$50

:
:

$25

$100

$1,000

:

July 1941

25.

50.

100.

1,000

August 1941

25.05

50.10

100.20

1,002

September 1941

25.10

50.20

100.40

1,004

October 1941

25.15

50.30

100.60

1,006

November 1941

25.20

50.40

100.80

1,008

December 1941

25.25

50.50

101.00

1,010

January 1942

25.30

50.60

101.20

1,012

February 1942

25.35

50.70

101.40

1,014

March 1942

25.40

50.80

101.60

1,016

April 1942

25.45

50.90

101.80

1,018

May 1942

25.50

51.00

102.00

1,020

June 1942

25.55

51.10

102.20

1,022

July 1942

25.60

51.20

102.40

1,024

August 1942

25.65

51.30

102.60

1,026

September 1942

25.70

51.40

102.80

1,028

October 1942

25.75

51.50

103.00

1,030

November 1942

25.80

51.60

103.20

1,032

December 1942

25.85

51.70

103.40

1,034

Office of the Under Secretary
June 23, 1941

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TREASURY NOTES - TAX SERIES B-1942

Purchase Price and Tax Payment Values on each Denomination
$100

$500

$1,000

$10,000

$100,000

:

:
:
:

July 1941

100.

500.

1,000.

10,000.

100,000.

August 1941

100.05

500.25

1,000.50

10,005.

100,050.

September 1941

100.10

500.50

1,001.00

10,010.

100,100.

October 1941

100.15

500.75

1,001.50

10,015.

100,150.

November 1941

100.20

501.00

1,002.00

10,020.

100,200.

December 1941

100.25

501.25

1,002.50

10,025.

100,250.

January 1942

100.30

501.50

1,003.00

10,030.

100,300.

February 1942

100.35

501.75

1,003.50

10,035.

100,350.

March 1942

100.40

502.00

1,004.00

10,040.

100,400.

April 1942

100.45

502.25

1,004.50

10,045.

100,450.

May 1942

100.50

502.50

1,005.00

10,050.

100,500.

June 1942

100.55

502.75

1,005.50

10,055.

100,550.

July 1942

100.60

503.00

1,006.00

10,060.

100,600.

August 1942

100.65

503.25

1,006.50

10,065.

100,650.

September 1942

100.70

503.50

1,007.00

10,070.

100,700.

October 1942

100.75

503.75

1,007.50

10,075.

100,750.

November 1942

100.80

504.00

1,008.00

10,080.

100,800.

December 1942

100.85

504.25

1,008.50

10,085.

100,850.

Office of the Under Secretary
June 23, 1941.

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June 23, 1941
11:00 a.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Nathan

Straus:

Good morning, Henry.

HMJr:

Nathan, how are you?

S:

Fine.

HMJr:

Nathan, Herbert Gaston brought

me in the other day a report
on your administrator for
Maryland.

S:

Yes.

HMJr:

He had originally applied
for us.

si

Yes.

HMJr:

And I understand he's under

S:

Oh yeah, yes.

HMJr:

And there's no - well at least,

investigation in the Congress.

you can read this report on him,

it's terrible.

S:

Yeah, I see.

HMJr:

And I thought that you might

S:

like to see it.
Yeah, all right. He's a if he's the man that I think,

he is in a very very subordinate
capacity in the accounting department, the one about which the
trouble was raised in Congrees?

HMJr:

I can't remember his name, I

S:

I see. It would be swell if I
could see it.

47
2-

HMJr:

Well

S:

How do you want me to handle
it?

HMJr:

to over think

I'll arrange somehow to see to seeit what to you. it has, I I'll
when get you

think you'll want to get rid of

him.
S:

I get you.

HMJr:

He's an - I mean, there's no
question about the man being

a Communist.
S:

HMJr:
S:

I get you. Well, that's fine.

I had turned it over to the FBI.

What?

I had already turned it over
to the FBI, if you are talking
about the same man.

HMJr:

Oh, you have?

si

Yes, last week, when the
accusations were made.

S:

Well, you want this report?
Oh, I much rather have this
report because it would enable
us to act sooner.

HMJr:

Right.

S:

That would all to my advantage.

HMJr:

HMJr:
S:

HMJr:

Yeah, the report is finished.
Thank you, that will be swell.
Okay.

48

3-

S:

HMJr:

I'd like to see you some
time, Henry.

I do too, I've - just as soon
as I know whether I have to go
to that funeral of Pat Harrison,
I'd like to get in touch with
you and spend an evening with

you.
S:

HMJr:
S:

HMJr:

Fine. Helen will be down to let S see - tomorrow night and
that's the only night this week.
Oh.

So that any other night, I'd like
to, Henry, but I wish you'd call
me about some other night and
let's go out together.

I'll do that.

S:

Well, thank you.

HMJr:

Thanks, Nathan.

49

The meeting will be held in the auditorium of the
Marine Barracks, 8th and Eye Streets, S. E., at 11:30.
You will go on the air between 11:50 and 11:55, but the

Department of Agriculture would like you to be there at
11:20, as a committee of 4-H boys and girls will be on
hand to welcome you.

50

Draft of Secretary Morgenthau's Broadcast Talk to the
4-H Club Encampment, June 23, 1941

I am very glad to be here this morning to have this
opportunity of meeting you young men and young women who represent

the 4-H Clubs of America. If you'll let me boast a little, let me
say that I'm almost a member of 4-H myself. As a farmer for many
happy years, as the former publisher of a farm magazine and as a

parent, I have come into rather close contact with 4-H Club work.

I believe in it, like all Americans who know the things for which
4-H Club work stands. And because I believe in the values of
Club work, I have encouraged all my three children to become members
of a 4-H Club in our home community in Dutchess County, New York.

I should like to congratulate you young people who have
had the good sense to become members of the 4-H Clubs. Your numbers

grow so rapidly that it is difficult to keep track of you from year
to year. Already I understand that there are a million and a half
of you. Nobody rejoices more than I do in the knowledge that so

many of our rural boys and girls are having a part in this, the

finest activity of rural youth in all the world.
I think congratulations are in order because, to me,

rural America typifies to the greatest degree the things in which
we Americans take the greatest pride, the things we value most

highly. A great part of our riches as a nation has always come
from our farms. A still greater part has come from the wonderful

-2-

51

people, all of them pioneers in their own ways, who have tilled our
soil and sown our crops and gathered the harvests from which America

has lived and breathed. But the greatest riches of all has sprung
from the freedom of activity, the freedom of thought, which comes

from the rural way of living. Nobody has greater respect than the

farmer for the beliefs of others, whether they pertain to politics,
religion or seed corn. It has always seemed to me that the rural
people get closer than any others to the fundamentals of the good

life, closer to nature, closer to the Creator. That is part of the
heritage of you boys and girls; it is the heritage of all Americans,
but it is yours to the greatest possible degree.
But our American heritage is threatened today as it has
not been for more than 150 years. No group has a greater stake in
the outcome of this present world conflict than the American farmer.

His right to till his own acres, his right to take part in the
democratic determination of policies affecting his own welfare and

his children's welfare, are directly involved in this struggle. If
this so-called "new order" of the dictators should triumph, we
should see the markets of the world closed to American farm products

which for more than a century have brought health and well-being to
the peoples of the earth.

The American people have said, in many different ways --

"We want to defend our democratic way of life; we are willing to do

-3-

52

whatever is necessary to accomplish its defense; we have a great

deal that is worth defending; we want to defend it well." That is
the sentiment of Americans young and old.
Hundreds of thousands of young men have entered the

service of their country by joining the Army, the Navy, the Marine

Corps, or the Coast Guard. Millions are volunteering their time,
thought, and energy in different lines of civilian defense. In
these times, there is something that everyone can do, in contrib-

uting to the national defense. Yes -- there is something that you
can do.

Your national leaders of 4-H Club work have assured me

that you young people will be glad to assume the task of distributing information on Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps, in your home

communities. Here is a task that merits your best efforts. Consider
for a moment the tremendous job of getting enough planes, tanks and

munitions to defend this nation against the threat of the most powerful aggressor nation the world has ever seen. It all takes money.
Your government wants to borrow that money from all the American
people.

Soon after you return to your homes, your local club
leader will receive a supply of pamphlets, called "Land of the Free,"
I hope you will read one of these pamphlets -- and see that everyone in your neighborhood receives one and reads it. Your work and

53

-4your dollars can make a great contribution to the defense of our
nation. You can give real meaning to your own 4-H Club pledge -head, heart, hand and health -- to your club, community, and

country. By serving your country in this crisis in every possible
way, you can help to insure that there will be a club, a community,
and a great free America in the future.

54

Reading copy used by HM, Jr in addressing the
4-H Club members on June 23, 1941.

55

Draft of Secretary Morgenthau's Broadcast Talk
to the 4-H Club Encampment, June 23, 1941

I am very glad to be here this morning to have this
opportunity of meeting you young men and young women

who represent the 4-H Clubs of America. If you'll

let me boast a little, let me say that I'm almost a
member of 4-H myself. As a farmer for many happy

years, as the former publisher or a farm magazine
and as a parent, I have come into rather close contact

with 4-H Club work. I believe in it, like all
Americans who know the things for which 4-H Club work

stands. And because I believe in the values of Club
work, I have encouraged all my three children to
become members of a 4-H Club in our home community

in Dutchess County, New York.

56

-2I should like to congratulate you young people
who have had the good sense to become members or the

4-H Clubs. Your numbers grow so rapidly that it 18

difficult to keep track or you from year to year.
Already I understand that there are a million and a

half of you. Nobody rejoices more than I do in the
knowledge that 80 many of our rural boys and girls

are having a part in this, the finest activity of
rural youth in all the world.
I think congratulations are in order because, to
me, rural America typifies to the greatest degree the
things in which we Americans take the greatest pride,

the things we value most highly. A great part of our
riches as a nation has always come from our farms.

57

-3A still greater part has come from the wonderful people,
all of them pioneers in their own ways, who have tilled
our soil and sown our crops and gathered the harvests from

which America has lived and breathed. But the greatest

riches of all has sprung from the freedom of activity,
the freedom of thought, which comes from the rural way

of living. Nobody has greater respect than the farmer

for the beliefs of others, whether they pertain to
politics, religion or seed corn. It has always seemed
to me that the rural people get closer than any others

to the fundamentals of the good life, closer to nature,

closer to the Creator. That is part of the heritage

of you boys and girls; it is the heritage of all
Americans, but it is yours to the greatest possible
degree.

58

-4But our American heritage is threatened today as
it has not been for more than 150 years. No group

has a greater stake in the outcome of this present

world conflict than the American farmer. H1s right

to till his own acres, his right to take part in the
democratic determination of policies affecting his

own welfare and his children's welfare, are directly

involved in this struggle. If this so-called "new
order" of the dictators should triumph, we should
see the markets of the world closed to American farm
products which for more than a century have brought

health and well-being to the peoples of the earth.

59

-5The American people have said, in many different

ways -- "We want to defend our democratic way of life;
we are willing to do whatever is necessary to accomplish

its defense; we have a great deal that is worth

defending; we want to defend it well." That is the
sentiment of Americans young and old.
Hundreds of thousands of young men have entered

the service of their country by joining the Army, the
Navy, the Marine Corps, or the Coast Guard. Millions

are volunteering their time, thought, and energy in

different lines of civilian defense. In these times,
there is something that everyone can do, in contributing

to the national defense. Yes -- there is something
that you can do.

60

-6Your national leaders of 4-H Club work have

assured me that you young people will be glad to

assume the task of distributing information on
Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps, in your home

communities. Here is a task that merits your best
efforts. Consider for a moment the tremendous job
of getting enough planes, tanks and munitions to defend

this nation against the threat of the most powerful
aggressor nation the world has ever seen. It all takes
money. Your government wants to borrow that money from

all the American people.

Soon after you return to your homes, your local

club leader will receive a supply of pamphlets, called
"Land of the Free." I hope you will read one of these
pamphlets -- and see that everyone in your
neighborhood receives one and reads it.

61

-7Your work and your dollars can make a great contribution

to the defense of our nation. You can give real
meaning to your own 4-H Club pledge -- head, heart,

hand and health -- to your club, community, and country.

By serving your country in this crisis in every
possible way, you can help to insure that there will
be a club, a community, and a great free America in
the future.

6-23-41

62

MILLIUM

W elcome!
The United States Department of Agriculture welcomes you

to your Nation's Capital - the one great capital planned for the
express purpose of becoming the center of the national life of a
great people. Today, in the midst of the most far-reaching crisis
in the history of mankind, its influence is being felt wherever
free men live. While here in your National Capital, you will see
how your Government functions as the world's greatest democracy.

You will visit its beautiful shrines erected in memory of the

outstanding men and women who devoted their lives to the building
of our Nation - a Nation that has always been markedly strong in

adversity. You will meet some of its officials, your represents-

tives, who are coping with the challenges of a world torn asunder
by greed and hatred. As you see the busy life of Government about
you, as you gaze on every side through long, peaceful vistas at the
majestic monuments of marble and bronze dedicated to those who paid

the supreme sacrifice, you will feel that Washington is in truth
the soul of America. For here, history is being recorded daily and
here, to this center of our own national affairs, the eyes of all
enslaved people are now turned, banking their faith on our ability

to carry high the torch of freedom. In such memorable surroundings
as these, may you gain a larger vision of your place in the world
and may your own faith in yourself and in the future be so strengthened that you will go forward stalwartly, inspired by that vision
of yourself at your best and imbued with that unfaltering spirit of
youth always alert to shoulder responsibility, to play the game, to
meet the challenge.

m h. Wilson
M. L. Wilson,
Director of Extension Work.

63
United States Department of Agriculture

EXTENSION SERVICE

DADDY JENKS' LETTER TO MARYLAND NATIONAL CAMP DELEGATES*

Monday Night,
June 2, 1941,

My dear National Camp Delegate:

Some strange second-sense seems to tell me this is one of the

gravest, most serious nights in all the years of America.

Today Congress was asked to vote the President greater powers
than were ever granted any President; greater than any people on earth

ever voted any man.

Why? For what purpose?

Perhaps it was best said by President Roosevelt himself:
"Democracy is the one form of society which guarantees to every new generation of men the right to imagine

and to attempt to bring to pass a better world. Under

despotism the imagination of a better world and its achievement are alike forbidden.
"We of today, with God's help, can bequeath to
Americans of tomorrow, a Nation in which the ways of liberty and justice will survive and be secure. Such a Nation
must be devoted to the cause of peace. And it is for that
cause that America arms itself.

"It is to that cause--the cause of peace--that we
Americans today devote our national will and our national
spirit and our national strength."
Tonight all America, all the world knows we are dedicated to the

greatest task in all our history. We are placing in the hands of the

Commander of our Army and our Navy the power and the control over every
last thing we now possess to 80 arm America and 80 dispose of our Way

of life that liberty and justice and the pursuit of happiness may not
perish from the earth.

Deth.

* Written to the Maryland 4-H Delegates to the Fifteenth National 4-H

Club Camp, June 18-25, 1941, Washington, D. C. E. G. Jenkins, Maryland
in
State Boys' Club Leader, is known as Daddy Jenks to 4-H Club members

all parts of the United States.

907-41

2

Each day now great and far-reaching events are occurring. In the
few days that remain before you come to Washington, the last citadel of
Freedom on earth, very great changes may come to our Nation - to our way

of life - to our way of thinking.

You will have read the material sent you from Camp directors.
You will have considered in your innermost mind how you feel toward this

greatest of all adventures in world revolution. You will know in some

way why you are an American, and you will wonder what you can or will do
about it.

"Rural Youth's Responsibilities in the Present Crisis."
At the Camp great men and women will tell you most solemn and

vital truths. With youth from nearly every State, you will discuss this
question which tonight becomes the most momentous question rural youth
ever faced.

The kind of world in which you will live all the rest of your
lives, the kind of world in which all the youth of the earth will live,

the kind of world in which future generations will live now depends on
the choices you and all the youth of America immediately make in their

hearts.

Our civilization rests on the responsibilities American youth
choose and the spirit in which they meet the crisis,
I trust you are coming to the National 4-H Club Camp with some

understanding of this situation and this challenge. I hope you will be-

come aware of some unknown purpose or Providence which led to your se-

lection as a delegate to the most important Camp in 4-H history. In the
New Day that is most certainly coming to your "club, your community. your
country your leadership will be most gravely needed and most severely
challenged.

Perhaps this experience in the Capital is to be your first serious
step toward a life of leadership in a new world of "men of good will."

Perhaps you are coming to learn that you are 80 much needed in this hate

torn world to help bring "liberty and justice for all mankind, that nothing else in all your life will ever turn you aside from that "vision of

Holy Grail."

May God give you wisdom and courage, and faith, a love sufficient
for your task, And choosing and accepting your responsibilities, may

you find the TRUTH that makes men free.

Faithfully yours,
/s/
907-41

Daddy Jenks.

OF

Program
FIFTEENTH NATIONAL

4-H CLUB CAMP
WASHINGTON, D.C.

JUNE 18-25, 1941

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
EXTENSION SERVICE

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U. S. Department of Agriculture
Extension Service

FIFTEENTH NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

Washington, D. C., June 18-25, 1941

DIRECTOR WILSON

WICHARD

DAILY PROGRAM
Hon. Claude R. Wickard, Secretary of Agriculture
M. L. Wilson, Director of Extension Work
Reuben Brigham, Assistant Director of Extension Work
Committee on Extension Organization and Policy,

Association of Land-Grant Colleges and Universities

L. R. Simons
H. C. Ransower
William Peterson

-

-

E. E. Scholl

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Director of Extension, New York, Chairman
Director of Extension, Ohio, Secretary
Director of Extension, Utah
Director of Extension, Oklahoma

- Director of Extension. South Carolina
H. J. C. Umberger - Director of Extension, Kansas
M. L. Wilson - - - - Director of Extension Work
D. W. Watkins

-

-

Marion Butters, New Jersey
Mrs. Azalea L. Sager, Oregon
Ellen LeNoir, Louisiana

MR. ERIGHAM

66
-21941 NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP COMMITTEE

Extension Service

U. S. Department of Agriculture
MR. TURNER

MISS WARRES

Reuben Brigham

R. A. Turner
Gertrude L. Warren
R. A. Turner

C. E. Potter
Madge J. Reese

Gertrude L. Warren
Eugene Merritt
Gertrude L. Warren

C. A. Sheffield
J. C. Baker

Ella Gardner, A. M. Sowder
C. E. Potter

B. Joy, 0. S. Fisher, Dr. 0. D. Lowe

Chairman and Camp Director
Associate Camp Director
Associate Camp Director
Leaders' Conferences
Leaders' Conferences
Leaders' Conferences

Delegates Conferences
Delegates Conferences
Daily Assemblies
Daily Assemblies
Radio Programs

Evening Programs and Recreation

In Charge of Tours
Tours

Hospitality
Hospitality
Mrs. 01a Powell Malcoln
Mrs. L. B. Fuller, K. Knans, 7. 0. Jans - Exhibits
Ruth Lohmann Smith

Mary Mooney

H. W. Porter
Althea E. Thacker

Clara L. Bailey
Mrs. Any Cowing
G. W. Ackerman
W. G. Lehnann
Cora L. Feldkamp
Jean Shippey
Ted Kirsch

MISS MOONEY

General Secretary

Financial Secretary

Press
Press

"4-H Record"

Extension Photographer

Construction and Planning
Camp Librarian
Camp Adviser
Camp Adviser

MR. PORTER

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-3INFORMATION

1941 NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

1. The 1941 National 4-H Club Camp is located on the Mall,

immediately south of the Washington Monument and on the

shore of the Tidal Basin.

2. Register promptly at Administration Tent upon arrival at
Camp.

3. The formal opening of the Camp will be held on the Camp
grounds at 8 p.m., Wednesday, June 18.

4. Assemblies will be held in the Auditorium of the South
Building, U. S. Department of Agriculture.
5. Delegates' conferences will be held in the Auditorium of
the South Building, U. S. Department of Agriculture.
6. State club leaders' conferences will be held in Room 1039,
South Building, U. S. Department of Agriculture.
7. Meals for delegates and leaders are served from breakfast
on Thursday, June 19, to and including supper on Wednesday,

June 25. Present your meal ticket at each meal.

8. Wear your official delegate badge at all times.
The objectives of the National 4-H Club Camp are to help 4-H Club
delegates and extension agents to learn of the work of the United States
Department of Agriculture and the other Government departments, to gain
a deeper understanding of those ideals that have shaped Washington as the
Nation's Capital, and to confer together regarding the development of a

strong rural leadership and a richer and fuller life for all those living

in the country.

The National 4-H Club Camp also provides an excellent opportunity
to portray to the public the accomplishment of the 4-H Club movement, to
enable 4-H Club leaders to confer together regarding matters of importance
in the further development of the 4-H Club program, and to help young

people to widen their outlook on agriculture and life in general through
the travel experiences gained in important centers of historic, economic,

and social interest en route to and from the Camp and through the many
happy contacts with young people and leaders of other States and areas.

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-4WEDNESDAY - JUNE 18

8 p. a.
National Camp

Formal Opening of 1941 National 4-H Club Cano
MISS GARDEN

Presiding, Reuben Brigham, Assistant Director of Extension Work,
Chairman, National 4-H Camp Committee.

Group singing. Led by Ella Gardner.
Greetings. Formally opening the 1941 National 4-H Club Camp,
Reuben Brigham.

1941 National 4-H campfire and introduction of State delegations.
Traditions of National Camp.
Plans for the Camp:
Announcements.

Introductions.
Get-acquainted hour.
10:00 Taps.

-4WETHERDAY - JUNE 18

8 p. m.
National Camp

Formal Opening of 1941 National 4-H Club Catro
MISS GARDEN

Presiding, Reuben Brigham, Assistant Director of Extension Work,
Chairman, National 4-H Camp Committee.

Group singing. Led by Ella Gardner.
Greetings. Formally opening the 1941 National 4-H Club Camp,
Reuben Brigham.

1941 National 4-H campfire and introduction of State delegations.
Traditions of National Camp.
Plans for the Camp:
Announcements.

Introductions.
Get-asquainted hour.
10:00 Taps.

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-5THURSDAY - JUNE 19
Forenoon

MISS REESE

MR. POTTER

6:00

Reveille.

6:45

Flag raising.

7:00-8:00

Breakfast. U. S. Department of Commerce.

8:30

A Man and a City. Washington Monument.

9:00-10:20

Delegates' conference. Auditorium.

Panel discussion: Moral Issues in the
Present Crisis. Leader, J. O. Howard.
9:00-10:20

State leaders' conference. Room 1039.
Presiding, R. A. Turner.
Some Opportunities Immediately Ahead for

Sta.e Club Leaders. Director M. L. Wilson.

Possibilities for an Enlarged Extension
Program for Rural Young Americans.

Director H. C. Ransower.

Appointment of committees.
10:30-11:20

Assembly. Auditorium.
Presiding, Reuben Brigham.

Music. Ella Gardner.
Address. Hon. Claude R. Wickard,
Secretary of Agriculture.
Music.

Tour talk.
11:30-12:45

Photographs of State groups at Camp.
G. W. Ackerman, Extension Photographer.

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-THURSDAY - JUNE 19

Afternoon

MR. SOVING

DR. LOVE

1:00-2:00

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Commerce.

2:30-4:00

State leaders' conference.
This time reserved for committee meetings.

2:30-9:00

Tour to National Agricultural Research Center,
Beltsville, Md.
Pionic supper served at the farm.
An evening at the Lodge.

10:00

Taps.

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-7FRIDAY - JUNE 20
Forenoon

6:00

Reveille.

7:00-8:00

Breakfast. U. 8. Department of Commerce.

8:30

Flag raising.

9:00-10:20

Delegates' conference. Anditorium.
Panel discussion: Rural Youth's Responsibilities

MRS. SMITH

in the Home and on the Home Farm.

Leader, Any Vessel.
9:00-10:20

State leaders' conference. Room 1039.
Presiding, B. W. Marston.
Dr. C. B. Smith.
Roy 3. Dickerson, Federal Security Agency.

10:30-11:20 Assembly. Anditorium.
Presiding, Gertrude L. Warren.
Music.
Address.
Music.

Tour talk.
11:30-1:00

The Home of Our President. The White House.

12:30

Official Gamp photograph.
South lawn of the White House.

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FRIDAY - JUNE 20

Afternoon

MR. ACKERMAN

MR. LEHMAND

1:00-2:00

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Commerce.

2:30-5:30

Griffith Stadium.

6:00-7:00

Dinner. U. S. Department of Labor.

7:30-9:00

The Library of a Nation. Library of Congress.

9:00-10:00

4-H motion pictures. Auditorium.

10:00

Taps.

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Forenoon

m. BAKE

MR. SHIFFIELD

6:00

Reveille.

7:00-8:00

Breakfast. U. S. Department of Commerce.

8:30

Flag raising.

9:00-10:20

Combined conference of delegates and leaders.
Auditorium.

Panel discussion: Rural Youth's Responsibilities
As Citizens. Leader, K. W. Ingvalson.
10:30-11:30 Assembly.

Presiding, C. A. Sheffield.
Music.
Address.
Music.

Tour talk.
4-H radio program. Broadcast from Anditorium.

11:30-12:00 Free period. National Camp.
(Write to the folks at home.)

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SATURDAY - JUNE 21

Afternoon

MR. JOY

12:00-1:00

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Commerce.

1:00-4:30

The Heritage of Literature. Folger Shakespeare
Library.

4:30-5:30

Pan-American garden party. National Camp.

6:00-7:00

Dinner. U. S. Department of Labor.

8:00-10:00

Midway Carnival. National Camp.

10:00

Taps.

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SUNDAY - JUNE 22
Forenoon

7:30

Reveille.

8:00-9:00

Breakfast. U. S. Department of Labor.

9:45

Flag raising.

10:00-12:00 Church service. Groups will be organised to
attend services as desired.

III

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SUNDAY - JUNE 22

Afternoon

12:30-1:30

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Labor.

2:15-5:30

A Nation's Tribute. Arlington National Cemetery.

6:00-7:00

Dinner. U. S. Department of Labor.

7:30-8:30

Vesper service. National Camp.

8:30-9:30

Concert. West Virginia 4-H Band.

10:00

Taps.

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MONDAY - JUNE 23

Forenoon

CAPT. SANTELMANN

6:00

Reveille.

7:00-8:00

Breakfast. U. S. Department of Commerce.

8:30

Flag raising.

9:00-10:20

Delegates' conference. Auditorium.
Panel discussion: Rural Youth's Responsibilities
in the Local Community.

Leader, Mrs. Harriet F. Johnson.
9:00-10:20

State leaders' conference. Room 1039.
Presiding, M. H. Coe.
Subcommittee on 4-H Club Work of the Extension
Committee on Organisation and Policy.

10:30-11:00 Assembly. Auditorium.
Presiding, C. E. Potter.
Music.
Address.

11:30-13:15 National 4-H Club Camp Radio Program.
Broadcast from U. S. Marine Barracks.

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MONDAY - JUNE 23

Afternoon

MR. FISHER

MRS. MALCOLM

1:00-2:00

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Commerce.

2:30-4:00

State leaders' conference.
This time reserved for committee meetings.

2:05-4:30

Fostering Art in America. National Gallery of Art.

6:00-7:00

Dinner. U. S. Department of Labor.

7:30-10:00

District of Columbia Youth Entertains.
Miss Sibyl Baker, Superintendent of Municipal
Recreation, In Charge.

10:00

Taps.

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TUESDAY - JUNE 24

Forenoon

MR. JANS

MR. KNAUS

6:00

Reveille.

7:00-8:00

Breakfast. U. S. Department of Commerce.

8:30

Flag raising.

9:00-10:20

Combined conference of delegates and leaders.
Auditorium.

Panel discussion: Rural Youth's Responsibilities
in Helping To Develop a Good-Neighbor Policy.
Leader, H. M. Jones.

10:30-11:20 Assembly.
Presiding, Madge J. Reese.
Masic.
Address.
Music.

Tour talk.
11:30-12:30

4-H Citizenship Ceremonial. Lincoln Memorial.

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TUESDAY - JUNE 24

Afternoon

MISS SHIPPEY

KR. KIRSCH

1:00-2:00

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Commerce.

2:00-4:00

Building a Cathedral. Cathedral of St. Peter and
St. Paul, Mount St. Albans.

2:30-4:00

State leaders' conference. Room 1039.

Presiding, C. E. Potter.

Presentation of committee reports.
6:00-7:00

Dinner. U. S. Department of Labor.

8:00-11:00

National 4-H Camp party. Held in the Chamber of
Commerce of the United States.

11:30

Taps.

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WEDNESDAY - JUNE 25

Forenoon

MR. KERRITT

6:00

Reveille.

7:00-8:00

Breakfast. U. S. Department of Commerce.

8:30

Flag raising.

9:00-10:20

Delegates conference. Auditorium.
Panel discussion: Rural Youth's Responsibilities
During the Post-Emergency Period.
Leader, Eugene Merritt.

9:00-10:20

State leaders' conference. Room 1039.
Presiding, M. H. Coe.

10:30-11:20 Assembly Auditorium.
Presiding, R. A. Turner.
Music.

Address. Grover B. Hill,
Assistant Secretary of Agriculture.

Presentation of recognitions.
Music.

Tour talk.

11:30-12:30 Free period. National Camp.

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WEDNESDAY - JUNE 25

Afternoon

12:45-1:30

Luncheon. U. S. Department of Commerce.

1:45-5:30

A National Shrine. Mount Vernon.

5:45-6:45

Dinner. U. S. Department of Labor.

8:30-10:00

Campfire Night. National Camp.
Songs, games.

Candle-lighting ceremony.
Formal closing of 1941 National 4-H Camp.
10:30

Taps.

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DELEGATES
CONFERENCE

FIFTEENTH NATIONAL

4-H CLUB CAMP
WASHINGTON, D.C. - JUNE 18-25,1941

THEME:

RURAL YOUTH'S
RESPONSIBILITIES
EXTENSION SERVICE
U. S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

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FOREWORD

We are looking forward to a most profitable rural young
people's conference during the National 4-H Club Camp, as 4-H
delegates from all parts of the country meet to discuss the theme,

"Rural Youth's Responsibilities in the Present Crisis." It may be
that at no previous time have the responsibilities which rural
youth will be called upon to assume, been greater than now. Certainly it is important for rural young people to analyze together
the situations facing them during the present crisis and to make
plans that will take into consideration possible opportunities
open to them, particularly those which will enable them to serve
their country best. They need to consider their own aptitudes in
connection with these opportunities, the adjustments that may become necessary in their own way of life, and the careful preparation that must be made for the post-emergency period, which un-

doubtedly will be characterized by declining industrial activity
and farm price trend.

It is fortunate that the discussions for this year's con-

ferences are to center on these important questions, especially
from the standpoint of the responsibilities that the rural youth
of this Nation will have to assume if democracy as conceived by
our noblest and most farsighted statesmen is to be preserved.
Every effort is being made to bring to the conference able men
and women to aid the 4-H delegates in attendance to clarify their
thinking as they discuss their own responsibilities in the present

crisis, We trust that the delegates will return to their home com-

munities inspired to serve their Nation wholeheartedly in keeping
with a carefully developed plan for their own lives during both
the present crisis and the post-emergency period.

M.L. wilson
M. L. Wilson,
Director of Extension Work.

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THE THEME

RURAL YOUTH'S RESPONSIBILITIES IN
THE PRESENT CRISIS

Democracy is the one form of society which
guarantees to every new generation of men the right
to imagine and to attempt to bring to pass a better
world, Under despotism the imagination of a better
world and its achievement are alike forbidden
"We of today, with God's help, can bequeath
to Americans of tomorrow, a Nation in which the ways

of liberty and justice will survive and be secure.

Such a Nation must be devoted to the cause of peace.

And it is for that cause that America arms itself.
"It is to that cause -- the cause of peace

that we Americans today devote our national will and.

our national spirit and our national strength."

-- Franklin D. Roosevelt.

A separate conference each day is being arranged for you delegates in order that you may discuss together those phases of your own
problems that are of most concern to you. The general theme proposed

for the conferences this year is "Rural Youth's Responsibilities in
the Present Crisis," In keeping with the recommendations of the Advisory Committee for the 1941 Delegates Conferences, the effort is be-

ing made to conduct the conferences in such a way that you will gain as
such benefit as possible from them and will be helped to assume or to

share increased responsibilities, particularly in connection with the
present crisis, We trust that these conferences may enable you to gain
also a clearer conception of what you can do now to take advantage of
your opportunities in serving the best interests of your own community

and Nation. It is believed that through your discussions at these conferences, you will gain also a clearer conception of what preparation
will be required of you young people in solving your most pressing problems and in assuming your responsibilities as trustworthy citizens in
promoting the d emocratic way of life.
According to our economists and sociologists today. society will
make far different demands upon you farm young people as future leaders
from those it has made upon your parents and the Nation's leaders of
the past. Therefore, we believe that it may be very important for each
of you to determine what your abilities are and how you can make the
most out of them in being of service in relation to your home, your
community, and your Nation, not only in the present world crisis but
also in the post-emergency period.

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-4In order that you may gain the maximum benefits from the delegates' conferences, it is suggested:

1. That you study carefully the entire program together
with the material sent you in connection with the
theme, "Rural Youth's Responsibilities in the Present
Crisis."

2. That you prepare a scrapbook of materials relating to
the theme that will prove beneficial not only during
the discussions at National Camp but in connection
with future discussions in which you may participate.

3. That you study especially the Bill of Rights of the
Constitution of the United States and its significance
to you as a citizen in this country.
4. That you devise a Bill of Duties that will summarize
the major responsibilities of every citizen in helping
to maintain the democratic way of life throughout our

country.

5. That you discuss the questions and material sent you
with your fellow club members, your parents, and with
the other members of your State delegation at home,
at club meetings, while en route to Camp, and after
your arrival here.
6. That you be ready to take part not only as a member of
a discussion group but also as a leader of such a group
if called upon. The discussion method will be used
throughout the delegates conferences,

7. That you be ready also to preside if called on at any

one of the more formal meetings held. Never has there

been a greater need for ability to participate in various types of meetings than at the present time. An
articulate leadership is essential to rural progress.

In preparing yourself for participation in the discussions during National Camp, you may find it desirable to consider your problems

and opportunities as well as your responsibilities, particularly during
the present crisis. Such consideration will involve choices that you.
will be called upon to make in relation to further education, training
in special skills, military training, work on the home farm, or perhaps
work in a defense industry. Such consideration will involve also certain adjustments that will have to be made in order for you to attain
maximum success and to be an asset to the work which you may finally

choose to do not only during the present crisis but also during the
post-emergency period.

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-5It is hoped that you will study carefully the circular, "Contri-

butions of the 4-H Clubs to National Defense." In this circular, you
will find many suggestions as to ways in which you can be of service

in your home, on your home farm, and in your community. The rights and

duties of citizenship should also be considered carefully. The outline
entitled "Practice in and appreciation of democratic procedures basic
to a democratic way of life" should aid you in clarifying your ideas
regarding this phase of your discussions. The outline entitled "Devel-

opment of an understanding of the social and economic forces at work,
particularly in the Western Hemisphere, and steps to take" should aid

you in clarifying your ideas regarding "Rural youth's responsibilities

in helping to develop a 'Good Neighbor Policy in the Western Hemisphere."
It may be especially helpful to study the contributions that have been
made by the other republica of the Western Hemisphere to the well-being
of our Nation and also the contributions that our Nation can make to
the well-being of the other countries of this Hemisphere.

On the last day of the delegates' conferences, the discussion
will center on "Rural Youth's Responsibilities During the Post-Emergency
Period." Regarding this period, Dr. M. M. Chambers of the American

Youth Commission states:

"It is difficult to forecast what the post-emergency
situation may be, because it is impossible to predict how

soon the current emergency may end. At all events, however,

it is believed that the period of sharply increased indus-

trial activity will eventually be followed by a reaction,

marked at least for a time by considerably reduced activity.
It is also possible that at about the same time large numbers of young men will be discharged from military service.
If it transpires that the present emergency is not greatly
accentuated, the time will soon arrive when communities
will be faced with the problem of the reabsorption of young
men returning home after a year of compulsory military
service.

"Thus the post-emergency period may be viewed as

presenting anything from the gradual readjustment of moderate numbers of ex-service men to the reabsorption of a huge
army of discharged soldiers coincident with a great slump

in industrial activity. The latter prospect is so serious
as to be almost terrifying.

"At first it might be thought that little can be done

in the guidance of rural youth, looking toward such an even-

tuality. But this would be a great error. No matter how
difficult the prospect may appear, it will certainly have
to be coped with in some manner by young people who are

growing up today. There is ground for faith that it can

be managed by an intelligent people devoted to the solution
of their problems by cooperative and peaceful means."
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bas

In preparation for this period, rural youth should seek as wise
guidance as possible. study of periods following past wars may
prove profitable. The training that youth gains now, will largely determine his or her fitness to cope with problems later on. In this
connection, rural youth should learn now how to go about solving any
real probleme that may be facing them. Such experiences may prove
very valuable in coping with the problems of a later and even more

difficult period. Rural young people should be particularly inter-

eated in making themselves now as fit as possible, from the standpoint
of health, education, employment, and recreation. The best insurance
which you can devise for the post-emergency period is doing the best
possible job that can be done now, in keeping out of debt and saving

as much as possible for the years ahead, in participating in wholesome community activities and in keeping abreast of the best thinking

of the leaders of this Nation, ever alert to the opportunities for
advancement that may be offered to rural young people.

Our Greatest Opportunity

"This is the most momentuous period in the his-

tory of the United States and the world. It is a time
to try the souls of men and it is a time to inspire
them, too. If the gravest challenge in the life of
our Nation is before us, there is also the greates opportunity. It is the opportunity to save democracy.
It is an opportunity to show that there is something

stronger in this world than brute force. It is an

opportunity to be worthy of the men who made us free.

It is an opportunity to help in creating an orderly,
peaceful, and prosperous world. I believe that we will
meet our challenge and measure up to our opportunities."
Claude R. Wickard.
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THE SIGNIFICANCE OF DISCUSSION
IN A DEMOCRACY

As has been pointed out, the most important feature of your
conferences will be the opportunity given you each day to discuss together those phases of the general theme of most concern to you. In
this connection, it may be of interest to read what others have said
of the significance of discussion in a democracy.

"The first line of the 4-H Club pledge is 'I pledge
my head to clearer thinking. One of the surest ways to
success is to train the head to clearer thinking. One
of the best methods to train the mind to clearer thinking
is through discussion. To have a clear knowledge of any

subject it is necessary to learn all the facts, to form
a conclusion, to state it clearly, and to defend it in

discussion with an open mind until such time as additional
facts make for a sounder conclusion.
Free discussion has always been a part of the

spirit of the American people since colonial days. It

was written into our Constitution in the first article of
the Bill of Rights. Our New England ancestors were
trained in discussion as they sat around the stove in
the village store and discussed the problems that confronted them. These rural people became very expert in
their informal discussions. Our New England lyceums
were also places where people were trained in discussion,
It is a fundamental part of the New England town meeting
today which is the truest form of democracy ever worked

out in this country. Real discussion is the basis of

democracy. It implies persuasion, not force, and calls

for the right of all to express their opinions on all
matters. It excludes all reference to personalities.

It was Voltaire who used words to this effect to a man
with whom he was discussing the matter, 'I do not agree
with a word you say, but I would defend with my life

your right to say it.

"A democracy almost always finds a majority in

favor of a measure and a minority against it. We should
keep in mind that the majority is obligated to keep the
wishes of the minority in mind and to respect their feel-

ings. The minority is privileged to try to win the majority to their way of thinking.
"All of us believe in America: we believe in its
future, and we realize that each of us, particularly
through our discussions with others, has a part in the
shaping of that future."

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- G. L. Farley.

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"A democratic society is the kind of society in which policy
slowly and uncertainly and hesitatingly emerges out of thousands of
conferences and millions of conversations, out of pressure groups,
out of the opinion of the press, and out of all the paraphernalia
that a free country employs to make vocal the opinion of its citizens. A country in which that kind of discussion goes on is in direct contrast to the kind of society in which policy is superimposed
from above.

"The unique contribution of democracy to the world has been
the representative system of government, a system of government

through which the varied and diverse interests, opinions, likes,
dislikes, preferences, and prejudices of the citizens can become
articulate in the body politic.
to

"In a democracy there is a due process of policy making no
less than a due process of law. Due process of policy making occurs
in those communities where a perennial argument about national policy
is carried on among responsible citizens representing a cross section
of the community's life, an argument begun with facts and reliable
opinion about them, and carried forward until generally acceptable
conclusions have been received. These citizens are the men and women

who make the opinion of their various communities, They are a voluntary group, not an organ of government, and not so large a number as
the electorate; responsible persons concerned about the public welfare, and thinking in terms of the interest of the community and of
the part of the community which they represent as labor leaders,
farm leaders, factory managers, professional men."
M. L. Wilson.

"The vision of a new world order actually means the establish-

ment of new objectives in living together. Individual security, social justice, and world-wide community cooperation are offered as
substitutes for privation, want, group selfishness, and warfare.
attainment of a new world order will not come

the mere
one set
of values
is to through
another.
"The that
decision
living
preferable

While no man knows how it will be accomplished, it is plain

that deliberately.
its achievement depends upon our ability to go about its creation
"To be effective, the methods we use in approaching our prob-

lems of world living must meet four conditions: (1) must
democratic way of living, (2) must be based

upon
faith
in thefundamental
ability of with
the(3)
individual
to do
consistent
thinking,
the they They
his be

as own to be they must assume that few problems are so simple
must imply expressed in terms of one 'side' or the other, (4) they
a thinking people. that nothing short of complete understanding will suffice
aalgaria
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-9"Effective discussion by people in groups of their fellow citizens constitutes one means of achieving these conditions. Once the
process of sharing opinions and experiences is started, learning be-

gins to take place. In discussion, a group of people rapidly pass

through the steps of experience-sharing, problem analysis, seeking
of new information, proposing tentative solutions, moving on to new
problems. The individual's problem becomes the group problem, and
his voice is not only allowed but is demanded in the councils of his
peers.

"The discussion group represents not only an effective learning device but also a concrete example of democracy in action. It
practices democracy in various ways:

"It gives importance to planning as a democratic instrument.
When men think, they begin to plan, to propose solutions, to test new
ideas. In essence, democracy is planning; men and women do not pre-

fer chaos or anarchy. As our forefathers planned a political state,
so their descendants may plan their economy, their society, and their
world. Above all, through discussion, planning becomes the right of
people themselves--they depend upon no one person to plan for them.'
A. Drummond Jones.

The Democratic Theory

"The democratic theory of government and of life
in a democracy opposes one-man rule, and holds to the

belief that the individual controls his government
through active participation in the processes of political democratic government, but bows to the will of the
majority, freely expressed. The motivating force of

the theory of a democratic way of life is still a belief
that as individuals we live cooperatively, and, to the

best of our ability, serve the community in which we
live, and that our own success, to be real, must contribute to the success of others."
-- Eleanor Roosevelt,

The Moral Basis of Democracy.
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THE GENERAL PROGRAM

That you may have a general understanding of the program arranged for you during the week and the relative amount of time assigned for your own discussions as delegates to the 1941 National
4-H Club Camp, a typical day's schedule follows:
Forenoon.
6:00

REVEILLE

6:45

FLAG RAISING

7:15 - 8:15

BREAKFAST

9:00 - 10:20

DELEGATES CONFERENCE

STATE LEADERS' CONFERENCE

10:30 - 11:20

ASSEMBLY

11:30 - 1:00

TOUR

Afternoon.

1:00 - 2:00

LUNCHEON

2:30 - 4:30

STATE LEADERS' CONFERENCE
TOUR

6:00 - 7:00

DINNER

8:00 - 10:00

EVENING PROGRAM

"It is not by finding new and easy ways, it is

the competency of the people born and reared in the

practices of individual liberty to maintain their

liberty in with order and with justice and to grow ever
the practice of that great work of developing selfgovernment."

-- Elihu Root.
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Thursday

June 19

9:00 - 10:20 a.m.

"Do what you feel to be right,
Say what you think to be true
And leave with faith and patience
The consequences to God.'
-- Robertson.

4-H Delegate, Presiding

9:00 - 9:05 MUSIC
B. W. Marston

9:05 - 9:15

SIGNIFICANCE OF DISCUSSIONS IN A DEMOCRACY

George L. Farley
9:15 - 10:15

MORAL ISSUES IN THE PRESENT CRISIS
PANEL DISCUSSION

Leader - J. O. Howard
10:15 - 10:20

MUSIC

"Today, democracy is threatened by a new kind of revolution.
For thousands of years, strong and successful revolutions have had

as a purpose the enlargement of the life of every individual. The
totalitarian revolution is toward submergence of the individual.

We now have to ask what a totalitarian victory may mean to us as

individuals. The totalitarian powers expressly reject the cardinal

principles which are inherent in democracy, and which are inseparable

from the historic creed of the United States. They deny what we affirm. They affirm what we deny."
--

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Extension Service Circular 351.

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DELEGATES CONFERENCE PROGRAM

Friday

June 20 or 00:0

9:00 - 10:30 a.m.

"God grant that we may now have the wisdom

to write Democracy's New Testament in a Bill of
Duties, a Testament which in no way will deny the
Old Testament with its Declaration of Independence,

its Constitution, its Bill of Rights, and its

Gettysburg speech. The New Testament will fulfill,

not deny, the Old, But to fulfill, there must be

a sense of interdependence as well as independence -

a sense of duties as well as rights - a feeling of
responsibility commensurate with our power."
-- Henry A, Wallace,

4-H Delegate, Presiding
9:00 - 9:10

MUSIC

G. L. Herrington
9:10

- 10:15 PANEL DISCUSSION - Rural Youth's Responsibilities
in the Home and on the Home

Farm in the Present Crisis
Leader: Amy Wessel

Members of Panel: 4-H Delegates from Minnesota,
10:15 - 10:20 MUSIC

"Each generation has had its problems, most of which have been

settled by peaceful discussion Today, you delegates representing
discuss these United States are assembled in your Nation's Capital and will

leges what lies ahead. You must realize that you enjoy many priviin this land of ours, such as a home where sanctity is protected
by the law, dictates free system of public schools, a right to worship God after

and as of your own conscience, to make of yourself what you will,

a home. you grow older to vote, to choose your own mate, and establish

ities."

Do not forget that these privileges carry grave responsibil-

-- G. L. Farley.
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ROMERREMOO

Saturday

June 21
06:01

4-H Citizenship Oath

00:0

9:00 - 10:20 a.m.
SS

ant

We, individually and collectively, pledge our efforts from day to day,

to fight for the ideals of this Nation. We will never allow tyranny

and injustice to become enthroned in this, our country, through in-

difference to our duties as citizens, We will strive for intellec-

tual honesty and exercise it through our power of franchise. We will

obey the laws of our land and endeavor increasingly to quicken the

sense of public duty among our fellow men. We will strive for individual improvement and for social betterment. We will devote our
talents to the enrichment of our homes and our communities in relation
to their material, social, and spiritual needs. We will endeavor to
transmit this Nation to posterity not merely as we found it, but freer,
happier, and more beautiful than it was when transmitted to us.
4-H Delegate, Presiding

9:00 - 9:10

MUSIC

Geraldine Fenn

9:10 - 10:15

PANEL DISCUSSION - Rural Youth's Responsibilities as

Citizens in the Present Crisis

Leader: Kenneth Ingwalson
Members of Panel: 4-H Delegates from New Jersey.
10:15 - 10:20

MUSIC

"Our Flag is the composite result of millions of human lives.
Under our flag, government of the people, and by the people, constantly
grows. Every man who has bravely struggled for civilization has given
something to it. The builders of the pyramids gave us our alphabet.
The Greeks, under Leonidas at Thermopylae, held the Persians, and saved
European civilization. The English barons, who forced the Magna Charta

from King John. gave us trial by jury. ALL these gave something to the

flag. It is a growing thing. It stands for humanity; an equal opportunity for all It is composed of the hopes and ideals and aspirations
of all its citizens. The miners digging minerals from the bowels of
the earth, add to the flag; the workers in the factory, the clerk in

the bank; the mother struggling to raise her children; and the 4-H
Club boys and girls working with their heads, hearts, hands, and health,
all add to the Flag. Yes, our Flag is composed of the LIVES of all of

us and our ancestors; all those who have helped to make our Nation a
land of freedom and justice for all.
-- Glenn Hall.
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of justice, truth, and democracy which
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-- Henry A. Wallace,

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at peace with all the world.

Henry A. Wallace.

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the pioneer farming of old. Its success will

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a government deriving its just powers from the consent of the govern-

ed.' To the framers of the Constitution of the United States it meant
to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings

of liberty' for themselves and their descendants. The objective of
the leaders of the French Revolution was 'liberty, equality, and fra-

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to the proposition that all men are created equal Pasteur hold it

to be 'that form of government which leaves each man free to contribs

ute his best to the general welfard and Massini defined it as the
government of all through all under the leadership of the wisest and
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the world. Its superiori ty 18 widely denied, and its security is bori-

ously imperiled. The American people consequently are interested in
understanding the dangers that confront them and in guarding against
them. Democracy needs strengthening both Internally and externally and
farm people can and must and will help do the job, both because of
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- 18 "Whatever the immediate future holds, one thing is paramount to

others in its importance if a decent world order is to be created.
That all thing is freedom--freedom to think, to speak, to hear, to
print, one to read, to teach,STROUGHT
to learn,
to experiment, to act.'
-- Fern Long.
ENGHT
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"The most inspiring single object in all this world is that of

Statue of Liberty at the entrance of New York Harbor. It is more
than a statue. It is a spiritual symbol of freedom and hope-the
heritage of America, and of all peoples everywhere. To America, as
the embodiment of this symbol and as their spiritual refuge, have come
the oppressed of all lands throughout the world, for over a century.
Now this symbol is being challenged, All that for which men and women

have lived, prayed, and sacrificed, that the spirit of liberty and
freedom might not die--that its light might not fail-is now being
confronted by a plan of control alien in every detail to that for ods

which this American Nation was first conceived, defended, and preand
served to this present time.'
TO

George Matthew Adams,

The Test of Civilization
add

add

"The heritage left us includes our own freedom of worship,
speech, and assemblage and other civil liberties that we have taken
for granted. We have taken them for granted so long that it is hard

MTOJ

for some of us to realize that their continuance is involved in the

tremendous struggle now going on between democracy and dictatorship.

But they are involved, deeply involved, and courage, determination,
and discipline to protect these freedoms are needed just as badly
e3#
today as ever they were in our history.'

-

Claude R. Wickard,
toad

"What is the test of civilization? Old World orders are changing. Our own defense plans are rapidly taking shape. How can the
measure of a country and its people be gaged? Ralph Waldo Emerson once

said: 'The true test of civilization is, not the census, nor the size

of cities, nor the crops - no, but the kind of man the country turns
out. If the test of civilization is in its men and women one point on
which a defense program must focus is youth, men and women in the mak-

ing. There are in this country almost 10 million rural young people
between the ages of 18 and 25 years, They are potential citizens of
the kind who can make or break our civilization.

brow

"Nearly one million and a half of these rural young people are
in 4-H Clubs. Regularly they pledge, My head to clearer thinking,
my heart to greater loyalty, my hands to larger service, and my health
to better living for my club, my community, and my country." Can the
requirements clearer for an effective home-defense program be stated any

and better than that? Here is the framework for rallying
rural youth to the standard of service for their country. This
framework is supplied with 150,000 leaders - farm men and women

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known in their own communities for their skill in agriculture, homemaking, and community welfare. Here is a nucleus for a far more intensive educational effort in support of a national defense program
than has yet been made."

Reuben
to

Brighan.

The Supreme Responsibility

"In the history of humanity, in times of great crises, it has
been the spiritual element that has carried the people through. In
this country, our democratic way of life gives expression to that
spirit more than that of any other nation. For this Nation was founded

upon the Christian idea, and today the Democracy for which we stand,

for which we are willing, if need be, to lay down our lives, is the

embodiment of that Christian idea. Young people everywhere should
understand and appreciate, particularly through their own democratic
procedures in relation to their home, club. and community activities,

that this democratic way of life is a heritage to be defended. By doing so, they themselves will increase in spiritual stature; and, in
turn, the United States of America will attain new heights as a country
of peace and good will, with opportunity for all - ever vigilant in
maintaining a force effective enough to defend its way of life at all
costs. The challenge is plain.
-- M. L. Wilson.

"Once China built a wall. She lived behind it. She laughed
at her enemies, She felt secure. Soon an invader came from the north.
Three times China found the enemy inside her gates They did not
storm the wall. They did not go around it. They simply bribed the
gate-keepers,

"Yesterday France built a wall. The Maginot Line. Steel and

stone, She felt secure behind it. She put her faith in it, Yet

France fell, Why? Something was missing. There was a gap through

which an invader came. That gap was not only in the wall. It was in
the spirit of the people.

"Today America builds a wall, A ring of steel. Ships and
planes and guns. But is this enough? Does America have what China
lacked? What France lacked? Does she have total defense? She builds

her wall, Does she build character? Spirit? The will to sacrifice}

Does she build men? Men who pull together? Before our eyes the
world
do?

changes, Nations collapse. We in America ask: What can I

What can 30 million Americans do? PLENTY!!

From "You Can Defend America"
Moral Rearmament,

Judd & Detweiler, Inc. Publishers,
Washington, D. C.

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The Farmer's Responsibility

evisted

"I am taking the position that, broadly conceived, the most
vital operating functions of agriculture in the defense program are,
first, the guarantee of an adequate supply of food for the needs of

this Nation and supplemental needs of those nations whose defense is

essential to the defense of this country: and second, the provision of
sufficient agricultural raw materials for expanded defense production.
In the accomplishment of these major purposes, it will be necessary to
assure that the agricultural balance is not destroyed and that the con-

sequent ability of the agricultural population to fulfill its contribution to the defense effort is not impaired."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Responsibilities of All Americans

"Americans are beginning to see a vision -- a vision of this

country as a leader in a better, more peaceful and prosperous world.
They are beginning to realize that determination and willingness to
sacrifice can make that vision come true. Whether it does come true,

is the joint responsibility of all farmers and all Americans.

-- Claude R. Wickard.

"When you come to vote, I wonder if you will ever think that
you must elect someone who will not only understand your problems, but

someone who will be able to tell you about the problems of the rest of
the country, and their relation to your problems? You have to elect

someone who is willing to grow

We must have open minds to be able

to grow. Above everything else, make sure that the people you elect are

intellectually honest. There is a big difference between the person

who won't cheat you in a money transaction, and the person who will make

an effort to see every side of the question and honestly make up his

mind about it. That is intellectual honesty. It's harder sometimes
than the other kind of honesty."

-- Eleanor Roosevelt.
base

"As a people we have come reluctantly to sense the momentous

consequences which hinge upon the outcome of the Battle for Britainour consequences which directly and vitally affect us, our children, and

children's children. We have resolved not to too late

assistance to the democracies. In order to

common
defense
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our
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manwith proof machines,
and our natural resources in a stupendous program
all-out preparedness.

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"Every individual and institution in our Nation must play a
proper part if we are effectively to provide for the common defense of

democracy and freedom in today's world-educators no less than soldiers
and workmen; schools and colleges no less than industry and commerce.
All forces must cooperate with government under democratic leadership

in this urgent national and international effort."

John W. Studebaker

Some Thoughts of Special Significance
to Rural Youth

'Competition for place and success in the world is keener than

ever before. But there are opportunities, untilled fields, also, which

have never existed before. All the more reason that you begin now to
think of where you are going and to begin chartering a path. This does
not mean that you will decide today or tomorrow, once for all. But

begin in spite of the present crisis. Study the various fields of work

here and away. Measure the cost and the satisfactions this or that 00cupation may bring. Make some plane for training yourself, for obtaining a true education. Find out what the requirements and costs may be
and begin, with those who should help you, to plan to get there. Build
up your resources. Keep on with your schooling. Plan and measure, inform yourselves, and plan, plan, plan. Go where you can make money if
you wish, but know that there are other satisfactions than making money.

There are many, many jobs neither you nor I would have because they do

not bring the associations, the friends, the pleasures, the bigger
things in life which we want. Above all do not go or at least do not
stay in something you do not like. Do not become the proverbial round
peg in a square hole. Unless you like your occupation your chances

for success are much less. A farm-management study in Minnesota shows
that those farmers who disliked dairy COWS made $16 less per cow than
those who expressed no prejudice toward COWS. The farmer who liked
poultry made 73 cents more per hen per year than the farmer who did not

like poultry. Farmers who disliked hogs obtained a return over feed of
only 68 cents per hundred pounds as compared with $1.89 per hundred for
those who reported no dislike for hogs. One of the commonest tragedies

of life if to be hooked to a job you do not like. So learn your likes

and desires and your abilities early."

--H. W. Hochbaum.

"The question for each man to settle is not what he would do if
he had means, time, influence, and educational advantages, but what he
will do with the things he has."
--

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- 22 "The reason most people do not recognize an opportunity when
they meet it is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and
regora
looking like hard work."
Henry Dodd

bas

"Education, after all, is simply the fitting of the eye to see;
of the hand to work; of the mind to perceive the truth; of the tonguelor
pen to express it; and it is by the practice of all these that we educate
ourselves and become strong, clear-headed men."

-- Henry C. Wallace.

"Farming is both a business and a way of life, Emphasis upon its
business aspects is necessary and desirable, but must by no means be ex-

clusive. Most important of all is it that rural young people who will

stay on the farm shall develop an enriched appreciation of the peculiar

values of rural life at its best, as well as an understanding of the
complexities of the industrial and political system of the Nation as a
whole. Education should supply a. background from which the rural pop-

ulation may continue to love their life on the land, and at the same
time develop their tolerance and cooperativeness with respect to the

problems and conflicts of labor and industrial management which must be
pushed toward solutions in their day.
"Therefore general education in rural communities should embrace

training in finding the facts of contemporary life assiduously and continuously, and forming opinions and policies regarding those facts by
means of democratic deliberation and compromise between conflicting

interests. These are the characteristics of the democratic way which
distinguish it from absolutism. American youth appreciate them, and
there is ample evidence that they consider them worth defending at all
costs.

"For youth who will migrate away from the farm, the same core of
general education is essential as for those who will remain. With respect to vocational education their needs are different, though not
necessarily always entirely unrelated."
-- M. M. Chambers.
bma

"Life's supreme needs are represented by three B's - Bread,
Beauty, and Brotherhood - Bread representing the material requirements

of our physical existence; Beauty signifying all the rich heritage of

the art nature, music and romance and play
wonders of nature, and all the amenities that

and Brotherhood embodying the fullest of a

and spirit ennoble race recreation, of life; in and the drama, development poetry,

comradeship, fellowship, and service in our relations with

our fellows."

- Edwin Markham.

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- 23 "There is the possibility that a young man or woman who moves

from the farm to the city may become many times richer, but there is

a strong probability that he or she will die poorer in the city than
on the farm. Wealth in the city is in no small measure the result of
chance, a gamble by millions of people for big stakes in which a few
thousand win. Wealth in the country, on the other hand, is normally

the result of hard work, managerial ability, and thrift."

-- O. E. Baker,

"It is a startling fact that three-fourths of the actual dental
needs of youth are now unremedied, This is evidenced not only by
heavy percentages of rejection of young men for dental unfitness by

local selective service boards, but also by many earlier surveys of

young people. In the well-known Maryland survey of 13,500 persons
aged 16 to 24 it was found that only 26 percent of the sons and daughters of farm laborers had visited a dentist within 12 months, and 31
percent of them had never had the services of a dentist at any time

in their lives. Youth should be enabled to find out and appraise the
facts in their own communities regarding sanitation, the prevalence
of disease, the facilities for recreation and other health-building

activities, and the environmental assets and handicaps from the stand-

point of the public health."

-- M. M. Chambers,

"A preparedness program calls for strong, vigorous men and
women, abounding in health - sound minds develop out of sound bodies.

The development of individual health is a regular part of the 4-H Club

program. It is a part of every club project. It is the first essen-

tial of abundant living. Health is a part of the 4-H Club creed and a

goal of attainment toward which every club member pledges himself upon

joining the club. It is attained through the growing of good gardens,
through outdoor work and recreation, through carrying on poultry, dairy,
and animal projects and the setting of a good table, through club camps,
nature trails, and study, and through the doing of things of importance.
The Battle of Waterloo was won on the cricket fields of England. And
so, it seems to me, we shall want to keep right on in our club work in

developing strong, healthy men and women as a part of the preparedness

program.

- C. B. Smith.

"Life is hardly respectable if it has no generous task, no
duties or affections that constitute a necessity of existence. Every
man's task is his life preserver." #

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"Be such a man, and live such a life, that if every man were
such as you, and every life a life like yours,
said this earth would be

God's paradise."

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on and al -- Phillips Brooks,
breathers

"Cooperation is the process of enlarging one's power for achievement through combining the energy of others with his own. Exerting
some of one's energy to secure the added help of others is an investment of effort which no one can neglect and succeed in a large way.
Such investments pay dividends in a proportion far greater than one's
investment of his own energies alone could produce. Union of forces
gives greatness of strength resulting in corresponding greatness of
results."
-- A. C. Burnham,
F. C. Bonser.
A Worthy Creed

"To respect my country, my profession, and myself. To be honest and fair with my fellow men as I expect them to be honest and
square with me. To be a loyal citizen of the United States of America.
To speak of it with praise and act always as a trustworthy custodian
of its good name. To be a man whose name carries prestige wherever
it goes.

"To base my expectations of a reward on a solid foundation of
service rendered, To be willing to pay the price of success in honest
effort. To look upon my work as an opportunity to be seized with joy
and made the most of, and not as painful drudgery to be reluctantly
endured.

"To remember that success lies within myself, my own brain, my
own ambition, my own courage and determination. To expect difficulties
and force my way through them. To turn hard experiences into capital
for future use.

"To believe in my profession heart and soul. To carry an air
of optimism in the presence of those I meet. To dispel ill temper
with cheerfulness, kill doubts with a strong conviction, and reduce
active friction with an agreeable personality.
"To make a study of my business. To know my profession in
every detail, To mix brains with my effort, and use system and method
in time my work. To find time to do every needful thing by never letting

To find me doing nothing. To hoard days as a miser hoards dollars.

ful make
every hour bring me dividends, increased knowledge, or healthrecreation.

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"To keep my future unmortgaged by debts. To save as well as
earn. To cut out expensive amusements until I can afford them. To
steer clear of dissipation, and guard my health of body and peace of
mind as a precious stock in trade."
-- Thomas Van Alstyne.

A "Good Neighbor Policy" in the Western Hemisphere

"The trend of world history high-lights the urgency of cementing ties between the Republics of the Western Hemisphere. Our ties in
the past, and those of our Latin-American neighbors, have been with
Europe. Bonds of trade and bonds of culture have kept our interest
centered across the Atlantic. Now, with several of the powers of
Europe at war, we gaze at the terrific scene, and realize how fortu-

nate we are in the western world. But the outbreak of hostilities
in Europe has created difficult situations which confront all of the

American Republics. More than ever, our cooperation should be wholehearted and effective. This does not imply that we were not conscious

of the need of effecting closer ties with Latin America prior to the
outbreak of the current European conflict. The fact is that the goodneighbor policy and a considerable part of the machinery necessary to

put it into force have been in existence for some years. President
Roosevelt undoubtedly was thinking of our Latin-American relations,

as well as our relations with the rest of the world, when, on January
2, 1940, in his address to Congress on the state of the Union, he declared: 'In these recent years we have had a clean record of peace
and good will. It is an open book that cannot be twisted or defamed.
It is a record that must be continued and enlarged."
-- Henry A. Wallace,

"There are two things we must do. We must take vigorous measures to secure our own self-imposed unity at home by an appeal to a
wholehearted application of true American democracy. We must take

effective economic and military measures for the defense of the
Americas by the creation of an adequate army and navy and by setting

up machinery for the protection of the whole economic life of Latin
America. This would place us and our American neighbors in a position
to dictate to Hitler on our terms for the supplies he must have before
he succeeds in making himself entirely self-sufficient. Should we
neglect our unity here, and our security in Latin America, we shall
slowly, yet not so slowly as some imagine, fall victims to the fate
that is being meted out to most of Europe."
-- Karl Olsen.

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What of the Future?

"Vision as applied to the material world is the penetration of
opportunities yet unrealized for the use of personal and material resources to serve the needs of man. It is foresight of new uses of
man's powers for utilizing the resources of nature, and of new methods
of application in the development of science, industry, and the arts.
It is the process by which one sees the possibilities of inventions or
discoveries in the numerous occupational fields by which man's material
needs are supplied--agriculture, industry, commerce, transportation,

trade, and all forms of business. It is looking into the problems of

human need for more material goods, for better ways of supply, for more

efficient modes of production, distribution, and use, and in discerning
new and better ways of solving these problems. It is seeing new opportunities where others have not seen them. What is often called business
acumen or discriminating business foresight is the use of one's powers

of vision as applied to affairs of the material world.

"If your ideals are right and you follow the principles of

achieving success faithfully and consistently and persistently and
rationally, whatever you set out to become you will become. You, yourself, are the only effective obstruction that can get in your way. First

of all, be sure that your ideal is right. Take into account fully your
resources-your abilities, tastes, and all other assets, not omitting
the liabilities. With all of these in mind, and with a full realisation

of the program of education and effort which you may make your own, set

up the ideal of the career you are to achieve. Plan your steps and
begin at once to take them. If you do all of these things and do then
well, you can forsee with very reasonable accuracy the achievements,

spiritual, mental, and material, which you will be able to celebrate
on your fiftieth or sixtieth birthday. Your future is in your own hands.
"Other things being equal, that man will go farthest who gets

new ideas and uses them most quickly. One should so order his time
for continuous education that a problem no sooner appears than he is

immediately at work upon its solution. A daily time and a properly

should
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every man, Vision and study should help him to keep his eye far

enough ahead to discern most of the that have to be

are really arrived, and to be for the new

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-- A. C. Burnham
F. C. Bonser.

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"It is in our power to make of ourselves a great people and

live great lives and live in the hearts of hundreds long after we are
gone. We can, if we want to, build a rural community that shall be

noted throughout the State, and even the Nation, for its neighborliness,

its hospitality, its abundant table, its sobriety, its thrift, its

intellectuality, its kindliness, its cooperativeness, its fine social

and recreational life, its highmindedness, and its spirituality, a

community where the sick are visited and the weary find comfort. These

are the things that make life worth while, These things cost little

money. They represent an attitude of mind and heart; and, as the years
go by. these are the things the world has always found bring the most
genuine satisfaction to the man, woman, or youth who pursues them."
C. B. Smith.

"Today, we have the opportunity to cooperate in solving the
national and international problems that affect every one of us. The
agencies of our State and Federal Governments are ours to command and

direct in meeting these problems. However, these agencies cannot by

themselves do this job for us; they need our cooperation. It is only
through such cooperation that the really big problems of American agriculture, industry, and citizenship can be solved. When we work this
way -- first, as boys and girls, then, as men and women, we shall find
our answers. We shall go forward."
-- Reuben Brigham,

Assistant Director of
Extension Work.

"We can neither understand the present nor get a sense of the
future without some possession of the past. Under the weight of a

present crisis it is easy to forget the crises of the past which have
spiraled us into the present moment which in its turn is hastening us
toward the future. We speak and think of a new world order as if one

were about to be born for the first time. We need only to think a
little about the inevitability of change in the past to realize the
inevitability of present and future change."

- Fern Long.

"No one who studies the world picture today can fail to see

that youth is the determining factor in the civilization of the future."
-- Fern Long.

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Article I,
Religious Establishment Prohibited Freedom of Speech,
of the Press, and Right To Petition.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of re-

ligion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the

freedom of speech or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably
to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Article II.
Right To Keep and Bear Arms.

A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a
free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
infringed.

Article III.
No Soldier To Be Quar tered in Any House. Unless, etc.

No soldier shall in time of peace, be quartered in any house
without the consent of the owner nor in time of war but in a manner
to be prescribed by law.

Article IV.
Right of Search and Seizure Regulated.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall
not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause,
supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the
place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Article V.
Provisions Concerning Prosecution, Trial and Punishment
Private Property Not To Be Taken for Public Use Without
Compensation.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital or other in-

famous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury,

except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militis,

when in actual service, in time of war or public danger; nor shall any
person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of
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life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for
public use without just compensation.

Article VI.
Right to Speedy Trial. Witnesses, etc.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right
to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and

district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which districts
shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses
in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Article VII.

Right of Trial by Jury.
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall

exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved,

and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court
of the United States than according to the rules of the common law,

Article VIII,
Excessive Bail or Fines and Cruel Punishment Prohibited.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines im-

posed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted,

Article IX.

Rule of Construction of Constitution.
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not
be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Article X.

Rights of States Under Constitution.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respec-

tively, or to the people.

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In Charge

Gertrude L. Warren,
Organization, 4-H Club Work,
Extension Service,

U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Eugene Merritt,

Senior Agriculturist,
Extension Service,

U. S. Department of Agriculture.
In Charge of Discussions
J. 0. Howard,

Associate Social Scientist,
Division of Program Study and Discussion,
Bureau of Agricultural Economics,

U.S. Department of Agriculture.

A. H. Benton,
Assistant Head,
Division of Program Study and Discussion,

Bureau of Agricultural Economics,
U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Co-Chairmen of Conferences

A. J. Brundage,
State Club Leader,
Connecticut.
Frances MacGregor,

Assistant State Club Leader,
North Carolina.
Panel Discussion Leaders and Speakers
Gladys Baker,

Associate Social Science Analyst,

Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply,

Advisory Commission of the Council of National Defense.

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Reuben Brigham,

Assistant Director of Extension Work,
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Mordecai Ezekiel,
Economic Adviser.

Office of the Secretary
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
George L. Farley,
State Club Leader,
Massachusetts,

John R. Fleming,

Assistant to the Chief,
Bureau of Agricultural Economics,
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
H. W. Hochbaum,

Chief, Division of Field Coordination,
Extension Service,

U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Robert W. Hudgens,

Assistant Administrator
Farm Security Administration,
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Kenneth Ingwalson,
State Club Leader,
New Jersey.

Harriet Johnson,

State Girls' Club Agent,
South Carolina.

H. M. Jones,
State Club Leader,
South Dakota.

Eugene Merritt,

Senior Agriculturist,
Extension Service,

U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Amy Wessel,

State Club Agent,
Minnesota.

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Executive Assistant to the Administrator,
Agricultural Adjustment Administration,
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
General Conference Advisory Committee
Edna Troth, Chairman,

Assistant State Club Leader,
Indiana.

E. L. Kirkpatrick, General Adviser,
American Youth Commission.
Dorothy DeLany,

Assistant State Club Leader,
New York.

Elizabeth DeLony,

State Girls' Club Agent,
Alabama.

L. I. Frisbie,

State Club Leader,
Nebraska,

E. L. Ingalls,

State Club Leader,
Vermont,

B. W. Marston,
State Club Leader.
Wyoming

George Adams,

4-H Delegate, North Dakota
Eunice Bailey,
4-H-Delegate, Maine.
Martha Lou Foreman,

4-H Delegate, Arkansas.

Walter Martin,
4-H Delegate, California.

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- 33 Committee for Summary Report of Delegates Conferences
Paul W. Ulmer, Chairman,
4-H Delegate, Ohio.
Manuel Domenech,

4-H Delegate, Puerto Rico.
Walter Ganshaw,

4-H Delegate, New York.

Luke Leger, Jr.,
4-H Delegate, Louisiana.
Mary Jean Lentz,

4-H Delegate, Missouri.
Irving Newhouse,
4-H Delegate, Washington.

Mary Swinford,
4-H Delegate, New Mexico.

Elvira Taylor,
4-H Delegate, New Hampshire.

Gladys M. Tilton,
4-H Delegate, Kentucky.
Advisers to Committee
W. G. Waterhouse,

State Club Leader,

California.

Martha Leighton,

Assistant State Club Leader,

Pennsylvania,

Advisers - General Information
Ruth Lohmann Smith,

Extension Service,
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Jean Shippey,

National Committee on Boys and
Girls' Club Work Fellow.

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Executive Assistant to the Administrator,
Agricultural Adjustment Administration,
U. S. Department of Agriculture.
General Conference Advisory Committee
Edna Troth, Chairman,

Assistant State Club Leader,
Indiana.

E. L. Kirkpatrick, General Adviser,
American Youth Commission.
Dorothy DeLany,

Assistant State Club Leader,
New York.

Elizabeth DeLony,

State Girls' Club Agent,
Alabama.

L. I. Frisbie,

State Club Leader,
Nebraska,

E. L. Ingalls,
State Club Leader,
Vermont,

B. W. Marston,
State Club Leader.
Wyoming

George Adams,

4-H Delegate, North Dakota
Eunice Bailey,
4-H-Delegate, Maine.
Martha Lou Foreman,

4-H Delegate, Arkansas.

Walter Martin,

4-H Delegate, California,

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Paul W. Ulmer, Chairman,
4-H Delegate, Ohio.
Manuel Domenech,

4-H Delegate, Puerto Rico.
Walter Ganshaw,

4-H Delegate, New York.

Luke Leger, Jr.,
4-H Delegate, Louisiana.
Mary Jean Lentz,

4-H Delegate, Missouri.
Irving Newhouse,
4-H Delegate, Washington.

Mary Swinford,
4-H Delegate, New Mexico.

Elvira Taylor,
4-H Delegate, New Hampshire.

Gladys M. Tilton,
4-H Delegate, Kentucky.
Advisers to Committee
W. G. Waterhouse,

State Club Leader,

California.

Martha Leighton,
Assistant State Club Leader,
Pennsylvania,

Advisers - General Information
Ruth Lohmann Smith,

Extension Service,

U. S. Department of Agriculture.
only

Jean Shippey,

National Committee on Boys' and

Girls' Club Work Fellow.

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National Committee on Boys' and

Girls' Club Work Fellow.
In Charge of Music

Ella Gardner, Chairman,
Rural Recreation,

U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Geraldine Fenn,

Assistant State Club Leader,
South Dakota.

L. R. Harrill,
State Club Leader,
North Carolina.

G. L. Herrington,
State Club Leader,
Tennessee.

B. W. Marston,

State Club Leader,
Wyoming.

V. V. Varney,

Assistant State Club Leader,

Wisconsin,

Coordinator of Conference Activities
Dorothy Emerson,

State Girls' Club Leader,
Maryland,

"A democracy is defined as a rule of the majority. But a democ-

racy is more than that: It is also an attitude of tolerance, on the
part of the ruling majority or minority, for the rights of minorities.
And the strength of a democracy lies largely in the resulting loyalty

of those minorities which have been fairly treated. Those minorities

may be racial or religious or or even be the unof a relentless economic As as
are fortunate permitted victims to political, system. they may long they

exist and develop, to protest against wrongs or to
flourish as wholesome groups in the greater society, they enrich and
strengthen the commonwealth. Theirs is also a contribution to the
national defense, when the
country is endangered."
--

Carl F. Taeusch,
"An Adequate Program of National Defense."

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Program

STATE LEADERS'
CONFERENCE

NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP
Washington, D. C.

1941

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PROGRAM

STATE LEADERS' CONFERENCE
FIFTEENTH NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

Washington, D. C.
June 18-25, 1941

Room 1039 - South Building
United States Department of Agriculture
Extension Service

1941 LEADERS' CONFERENCE COMMITTEE

M. H. Coe, Kansas.

Hallie Hughes. Virginia.

Helen Church, Missouri.
J. W. Whitehouse, Kentucky.
Director H. C. Ramsower, Ohio.

B. W. Marston, Wyoming.

C. E. Potter, U.S.D.A.

Martha Leighton, Pennsylvania.

Marion Butters, New Jersey.
R. A. Turner, U.S.D.A.

PROGRAM OF STATE LEADERS' CONFERENCE

Thursday forenoon, June 19 - 9 to 10:20.

Presiding, R. A. Turner, U.S.D.A.
The 4-H Club Program As I See It Now.
Dr. C. B. Smith.

Possibilities for an Enlarged Extension Program for Rural
Young Americans.

Reuben Brigham.

Appointment of committees on National Camp to present written
reports on Tuesday afternoon, June 24:
Committee on Evening Programs and Special Events.

Committee on Tours at National 4-H Club Camp.
Committee on Delegates Conference.
Committee on General Assemblies.

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-2 Thursday afternoon, June 19 - 2:30 to 4.
This time reserved for committee meetings:
a.

Subcommittee on 4-H Club Work of the Extension Committee

On Organization and Policy.
b. Subcommittee on:
4-H Objectives.
4-H Competition and Awards.

National 4-H Events.

Professional Improvement.

C. 1941 National Camp Committees (appointed Thursday forenoon,
June 19)

Friday forenoon, June 20 - 9 to 10:20.
Presiding, B. W. Marston, Wyoming.
4-H Club Work and Social Hygiene.

Roy E. Dickerson, Federal
Security Agency.

Reports of 4-H subcommittees in the Federal Extension
Service.

Friday afternoon, June 20.

No afternoon session. (Griffith Stadium. )
Saturday forenoon, June 21- 9 to 10:20.

Combined conference of delegates and leaders. Auditorium.
Presiding, 4-H Club delegate.
Saturday afternoon, June 21.
No afternoon session.

Tour to Folger Shakespeare Library and to Capitol.
Leaders to accompany their State delegations.

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-3 Monday forenoon, June 23 - 9 to 10:20.

Presiding, M. H. Coe, Chairman, Subcommittee on 4-H Club Work
of the Committee on Extension Organization and Policy.
Report of the chairman.
Reports of subcommittees.

Monday afternoon, June 23 - 2:45 to 4:30.
This time reserved for committee meetings:

a. Subcommittee on 4-H Club Work of the Extension
Committee on Organization and Policy.
b. 1941 National Camp Committees (appointed Thursday
forenoon, June 19)

Tuesday forenoon, June 24 - 9 to 10:20.

Combined conference of delegates and leaders. (Auditorium.)
Presiding, 4-H Club delegate.

Tuesday afternoon, June 24 - 2:30 to 4.

Presiding, C. E. Potter, U.S.D.A.
Some Opportunities Immediately Ahead for State Club Leaders.

Director M. L. Wilson.

Presentation of written reports of committees on National
Camp (appointed Thursday forenoon, June 19):
Committee on Evening Programs and Special Events.
Committee on Tours.

Committee on Delegates Conference.
Committee on General Assemblies.

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-4Wednesday forenoon, June 25 - 9 to 10:20.

Presiding, M. H. Coe, Chairman, Subcommittee on 4-H Club Work
of the Committee on Extension Organization and Policy.
Selection of new members of committee.
Final reports and recommendations.

Meetings of newly selected committees to plan tentative
procedure.

Wednesday afternoon, June 25.

No afternoon session. (Boat trip to Mount Vernon.)

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SCHEDULE OF EVENTS
F 'IFTEENT H ANNUAL

NATIONA L 4 - H CLUB CAMP

June 18-25, 1941

Washington, D. C.

United States Department of Agriculture
Extension Service

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United States Department of Agriculture

EXTENSION SERVICE

FIFTEENTH NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP - 1941

Washington, D. C., June 18 to 25
SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

For detailed information contact the following persons:
Mary Mooney, General Secretary, Administration
National
Telephone - Tent,
Republic
5447. Camp.
Althea E. Thacker, Camp News, Press Tent, National Camp.

Telephone - Republic 5187 or
U. S. Department of Agriculture, Republic 4142:
Branch 6068, South Building.
Branch 2686, Auditorium.

Clara Bailey, Camp News, Press Tent, National Camp
Telephone - Republic 5187 or
U. S. Department of Agriculture, Republic 4142:
Branch 6028, South Building.
Branch 2686, Auditorium.

Assemblies will be held in the Auditorium of the South
Building, U. S. Department of Agriculture.
Delegates conferences will be held in the Auditorium
of the South Building, U. S. Department of Agriculture,
State club leaders' conferences will be held in Room 1039,
South Building, U. S. Department of Agriculture.

TIME

EVENT

PLACE

Wednesday, June 18:
p.m.

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Formal Opening of Camp

National Camp
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s.m.

Breakfast
7

8:30

Tour

Delegates Conference
J. O. Howard
Leaders' Conference

9

Department of Commerce
Washington Monument

Auditorium

9

R. Brigham, c. B. Smith
10:30

Room 1039

Assembly

Assistant Secretary Grover

B. Hill

State Delegation Photographs

Auditorium
National Camp

Luncheon

Department of Commerce

2:30

Tour

Beltsville, Md.

2:30

Leaders' Committee Meetings

10:30

p.m.
1

Friday, June 20:
a.m.

Breakfast
Delegates' Conference

7

9

Amy Wessel

Leaders' Conference

9

R. E. Dickerson
10:30
11:30
12:30

Assembly. Graciela Mandujano
Tour

Official Camp Photograph

Department of Commerce

Auditorium
Room 1039

Auditorium
White House
White House

P.E.

Luncheon

1

2:30
6

7:30

Tour

Griffith Stadium

Dinner

Department of Labor

Tour

4-H Motion Pictures

9

Department of Commerce

Library of Congress

Auditorium

Saturday, June 21:
a.m.
?

9

Department of Commerce
Breakfast
Combined Conference of Delegates

and Leaders. K. W.Ingwalson Auditorium
10:30
11:00
11:30

Assembly. Edward Rowan
Radio Broadcast
Free Period

12 m.

Luncheon

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National Camp
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-Saturday. June 21:
p.m.

Folger Library

Tour
1

4:30

Pan-American Tea
Dinner

6

Midway Carnival

Capitol
Patio
Department of Labor
National Camp

8

Sunday, June 22:
a.m.

Breakfast
Church Services

Department of Labor

12:30

Luncheon

Department of Labor

2:15

Tour

8

10

p.m.

Arlington National
Cemetery

Dinner

6

7:30
8:30

Vesper Service

Concert. West Virginia
4-H Band

Department of Labor
National Camp
National Camp

Monday. June 23:
a.m.

Breakfast

Department of Commerce

Delegates Conference
Mrs. Harriet F. Johnson

Auditorium

?
9

Leaders' Conference.

9

4-H Subcommittee
10:30

11:30

Assembly. Dr. Russel M.

Room 1039

Wilder
Radio Broadcast

Auditorium
Marine Barracks

Luncheon

Department of Commerce

p.m.
1

2:30

Tour

2:30

Leaders' Committee Meetings
Dinner

District of Columbia Youth

6
8

Entertain

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Department of Labor
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Breakfast
Combined Conference of
Delegates and Leaders.
H. M. Jones

a.m.
7
9

10:30

Assembly.

11:30

4-H Citizenship Ceremonial

D.M.

Hon. Wright Patman

Luncheon
1

Tour

Department of Commerce

Auditorium
Auditorium
Lincoln Memorial
Department of Commerce
Cathedral

2

2:30

Leaders' Conference.
Committee Reports
Dinner
Party

Room 1039

Department of Labor
U. S. Chamber of

6
8

Commerce

Wednesday, June 25:
a.m.

Breakfast

?

Delegates Conference.

9

E. Merritt

Leaders' Conference,

9

10:30

4-H Subcommittee
Assembly.

Department of Commerce

Auditorium
Room 1039

Hon. Claude R. Wickard,

Secretary of Agriculture

Presentations of
11:30

Recognitions
Free Period

Auditorium
National Camp

12:45

Luncheon

Department of Commerce

1:45

Boat Trip to Mount Vernon

5:45

Dinner

8:30

Campfire Night

p.m.

Candle-lighting Ceremony and
Formal Closing of Camp

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United States Department of Agriculture

EXTENSION SERVICE
Washington, D. C.

0 T E ON 4-H CLUB TOURS
NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

The Capital City

After protracted discussion of the claims of New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and other cities, to be named as the Capital, Congress

in 1790 empowered President Washington to select a location for a
Federal City on the Potomac Rivor. The story goos that the sito chosen
by him, and which became the seat of the city named in his honor, was
one to which he had been attracted in his younger days as a surveyor.

To Major Pierre Charles L'Enfant, at the recommendation of Presidont Washington, went the assignment for the task of designing the future
Capital of the Nation.

The plan was the first and most comprehensive ever designed for a

city. It applied to the area 10 milos squaro sot apart as Fedoral torritory and callod the District of Columbia. It was designed for a city of
800,000, the size of Paris at the time. The plan was original and was
based purely on the existing topography Although the city is laid out

with streets running north and south, oast and west, there is superimposod upon theso a system of broad diagonals. At tho intersections of
two or more of these diagonal avenues are located the city's famous
squares and circles. In the original plan the avenues were to be 160
fect in width. No city designed for commercial purposes would have
avenues so wide - hence the wholo plan indicates it was especially dosignod for the seat of the Government of the Nation.

It is said of the "Fathers of our country" that they founded
botter than they knew.
Washington Monumont

The history of the Washington Monument begins with the close of
the Revolutionary War, for in 1783 Congress passed a resolution providing

for an equestrian statue of L'Enfant, in drawing up his plans
Federal
in included Washington.
a statue of Washington
on a the
for the
City
to spot
where1791,
the now stands. Washington
from Federal and the matter was dropped.

approximately
exponditure
time
funds, objected
From but time not to
movements
wore started
to Monument
crect a monumont
to Washington,

until 1848 did Congress grant a site on public lands. Because of financial difficulties, political bickering, and other handicaps, the Monument
was not completed until 1884.

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estate

It is one of the tallest monuments in the world, rising 555 feet
5-1/8 inches above the ground and weighing more than 80,000 tons. An

elevator and 8 flight of 898 steps ascent to a chamber at the 500-foot
level. An excellent panoramic view may be had of the city and countryside through the windows in this chamber.

On the inside of the Monument are 202 carved tribute blocks donated in memory of Washington, by individuals, societies, cities, States,

and foreign powers.

National Agricultural Research Center

At Beltsville, Md., the United States Department of Agriculture
maintains a large proving ground known as the National Agricultural Research Center. On this farm of approximately 14,000 acres, testing projects have been established by the following Bureaus: Animal Industry,
Dairy Industry, Plant Industry, Biological Survey, Forestry, Food and
Drug Administration, Entomology and Plant Quarantine, and Soil Conservation Service.

The house in which the director of the Center lives was built
about 1785 for John C. Herbert of Revolutionary fame. The greater portion
of the land, used as a proving ground by the Research Center, originally
belonged to the Snowdon family and was known as Birmingham Manor.
The White House

item

The site of the White House was selected by President Washington.

In 1792 the cornerstone was laid, but it was not until the latter part of
November 1800, the year Washington became the seat of the Government,

that President and Mrs. John Adams moved in - the first presidential family to occupy the White House. At that time it was incomplete, and much
discomfort was experienced, particularly as to heating and lighting.
The East Room was used as a place to dry the family wash. The White House
was not finished until 1826,
In 1814 when the White House was burned by the British, Dolly
Madison cut the portrait of George Washington from its frame. The painting, a Gilbert Stuart, now hangs in the East Room.
Other interesting rooms are the State Dining Room, the scene of

brilliant State functions; the Blue Room - the reception room

are covered with rich blue corded and the
hangings
the
walls
of the
which
of President's
window of
which blue; the Redbeing
Room,
walls
and windowsilk,
draperies
the walls are of red velvet; and the Green Room, which has green velvet on

and a green rug bearing the coat of arms of the United States.

Originally the main entrance of the White House was on the south
evenings. side, and the opposite side had a garden where the family spent their
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Cathodral of St. Potor and St. Paul
Situated on Mount St. Albans, from which height a magnificent view

of the city is obtained, is the Cathedral of St. Peter and St. Paul, more

popularly called the Washington Cathedral, seat of the Protestant Episcopal Diocese of Washington. Although construction has been going on for
30 years, the cathedral is not half completed. Already $12,000,000, contributed by more than 71,000 people, has been spent upon the project.

The cathodral, built in the style of fourteenth-contury Gothic
architecture, ranks among the great occlesiastical structures of this
country and among the 10 largest in the world. It is boing built in the
form of a largo cross: the apso, choir, and nave form the stom of the
cross, while the north and south transopts sorvo as the arms.
Following the precedent established in Westminster Abboy, many of

the Nation's illustrious doad will be entombod in the cathodral. Among

those now resting there are President Woodrow Wilson and Admiral Georgo.

Dowey.

The Lincoln Memorial

When L'Enfant made his first plan, the Potomac River flowed over
the present site of the Lincoln Memorial; whon Congress extended the plan,

it was a swamp. Today this huge fano, largor than oithor wing of the

Capitol, stands on a circular plateau 45 foot above the surrounding Potomac

Park, mirrored in the long reflecting pool in line with the Washington Mon-

umont and the Capitol.

The Memorial, the work of Henry Bacon, is constructed of white

Colorado marble. At the base it is 188 feet long and 118 feet wide. It
rises to a height of 100 feet. Each of its 36 columns represents one of
the States of the Union at the timo of Lincoln's death, and on the attic

wall are 48 fostoons omblematic of tho States of the Union today. Within
is a great hall completely dominated by the colossal figure of Daniel
Chester French's Lincoln, said to be the largest statue ever carved. Ninetoen foot tall, carved from Georgia marble, it weighs 150 tons.

On the north and south walls are inscribed the Gettysburg Address
and the Second Inaugural Address, with murals painted by Jules Guerin
commonorating the Emancipation and the Reunion. The hall, formerly lighted
only through the groat contral ontranco and by translucent panols of marblo,

now has 24 powerful floodlights in the attic, tho light boing directed

downward through the ceiling panels toward the statue.

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Library of Congress

The Library of Congress, the world's largest and most elaborate
building devoted wholly to library uses, was founded in 1800 by an act
appropriating $5,000 for the purchase of "books for the use of both Houses

of Congress." There are now more than 5,000,000 books and pamphlots and
2,500,000 maps, charts, musical compositions, newspapers, and manuscripts

in the Library, including Thomas Jefferson's collection (6,760 volumes,
the nuclous of the present collection).

The architecture is of the Ronaissance order. The exterior walls
are of Now Hampshiro granite. Whon the building was erected, in the 1890's,
50 masters of painting and sculpture worked togethor to make it a treasure
house of the best contemporary Amorican art.

In front of the Library is a bronzo fountain representing the Court

of Neptuno.

The grand stair hall of the ontrance pavilion is of Italian white
marblo. It loads to tho groat rotunda, which is the reading room. To the
right are the library rooms of Senators and Representatives; to the loft,
the rooms for the blind and the consorvatory of music.
Outstanding among tho many intorosting oxhibits are tho originals
of the Declaration of Independence and tho Constitution of the United States,
a copy of the Gutonborg Bible, and a quartot of stringod instruments made by
Antonio Stradivari.
The Capitol

The Capitol Building, dominating all Washington, stands on the crest
of a hill, where cross the north-south and the east-west axes of Federal
City. The Capitol faces the East on a site selected by L'Enfant.

Simple, noble, beautiful, dignified, and graceful are the lines of
the Capitol, which reflect the designs of Federal classic architecture.

cast-iron
domo central
crowns a structure
750long
feet by 375
feet The huge
wide.
Around
the base of the drum of the dome is a colonnade of 36

fluted Corinthian columns representing tho States in the Union at the time

was Surnounting
thecompleted.
of tho domo
is "lantern"
a
docorated
the domo with
cap

original a colonnado of 13 flutod Corinthian columns representing the
States of the Union. On top of the lantern is Thomas Crawford's

19-foot bronze statue of Freedom.

As seen from the east or west, the Capitol is composed of seven units.
original the center, directly under the dome, is the rotunda. Flanking it are the
extended wings. Linked to those wings by short narrow passageways are the
Senate. wings, housing, respectively, the House of Representatives and the
In

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-5Entering the Capitol by the contral portico from the loast through
the 10-ton Rogers bronze doors, one comes into the great rotunda with its
canopy, portraying the Apotheosis of Washington and tho 300-foot friezo

oncircling the rotunda, as well as the paintings of historical interest.
West of the great rotunda is tho section formorly used by tho
Supremo Court, and to tho oast is Statuary Hall. Boyond the old Supremo
Court soction is the Sonato section with the Prosident's Room. East of
Statuary Hall is the House oxtension.
The Folgor Shakospoard Library

Whon a studont at Amhorst College, Henry Clay Folgor bocano intorostod in Shakospoaro and devoted his life to the acquisition of Shakospear-

can natorial. In tho Folgor Shakespoard Library, locatod on Capitol Hill,
beautifylly housed and fully accessible to scholars and the genoral public,
is the finest collection of Shakospoaroan material outside England.
Dedicated on April 23, 1932, the three hundred and sixty-eighth
anniversary of Shakespeare's birth, the library is administered by the
trustees of Amherst College. Built of Georgia marble, the exterior is
distinguishod by tho simplicity of its mass and the admirable harmony of
sculpture and architocturo. To croato a suitablo background for the his-

toric collections, tho interior is finished in the architecture of Shakospoaro's time - soventoonth-contury English.

In the library are found 85,000 volumes, a gallery of Shakespearean
and Elizabethan relics, portraits of Shakespeare, an adaptation of a
seventeenth-century English theater, and a beautiful reading room designed

in the manner of a traditional English groat hall.

Christ Church - Alexandria, Va.
The church where Washington and Lee worshiped was built in 1763
from plans designed by James Wren (reputed descendant of Sir Christopher).

The building is typical of the Georgian church architecture of the proRevolutionary
thought in 1818.period; the largo towor and cupola were addod as an afterThe fino but small wrought-brass and crystal chandolier was brought
from England in 1818. Washington's family Biblo and the vestry book containing his signature are in the possossion of the church but not in view.
There are a number of fine oarly gravestonos in the churchyard.

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Arlington

The Arlington house, usually known as the Custis-Lee Mansion, built
in 1802, is linked through its builder, George Washington Parke Custis, the

only grandson of Martha Washington, with Mount Vernon and the Washington

family, but is more familiarly associated with Robert E. Lee, the beloved

Confoderate general. Arlington is built along simple colonial lines of

stuccoed brick, painted buff and trimmed with white. Standing on the portico with its huge Doric columns, one has a memorable view of the Potomac,
the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument, the Capitol, and surrounding buildings.

Here, Robert E. Lee, after his marriago in 1831 to Mary Ann Randolph
Custis, daughter of the adopted son of George Washington, livod for 30
years. Occupied by the Union forces, Arlington was ono of the key positions
in the defonso of tho Capital. Restoration and furnishing of the house and
other buildings was approved by act of Congress in 1925. Under the supervision of the National Park Service, Arlington is not so much a museum, but

rather a home reflecting a period of gontle and gracious living.

Arlington National Cemetery, the largest and most famous of American

national burial grounds, is a part of the old Arlington estate. Among the

many commonorative monuments in the cometory, the most important are the
Memorial Amphitheater and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

The United States Marine Barracks

The Marine Barracks is the headquarters of the United States Marino
Corps in Washington. This site was selected in 1801 by Prosident Jefferson.
The Commandant's House, in which havo livod all but two of the 15 connandants,
was
completed in 1805. It is a good example of the early eighteenthcentury
type.
The Marine Barracks is the headquarters of the celebrated Marine
Band, which takes part in the national 4-H Club radio programs. The Marine

Band is the oldest military band in the United States, having made its offi-

cial debut
President Adans' fornal reception at the White House on New
Year's
Day,at
1801.

Snithsonian Institution
It

The Smithsonian Institution is unique among scientific establishments.
administers seven Government bureaus, yet its own activities are supported

by means trust of the income from its private endowmont fund. This fund was left

in to the Unitod States by an who had never been in

James no
Smithson
was anEnglishman
English scientist
who,
and 1826, who willod knew
one here.
America,
in

his fortune to the United Statos to found an ostablishment, the

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purpose of which he stated as "the increase and diffusion of knowledge
among men.' After 8 years of debate, Congress agreed on what Smithson's
intentions were.

Arts and Industries Building. In this building are the Hall of
History containing mementoes of famous Americans: Lindbergh's plane "Spirit

of St. Louis"; the United States flag which inspired Francis Scott Key to
compose the Star-Spangled Banner; the gowns worn by the mistressos of the

White House: exhibits relating to coins, military and naval history, paints,

nining, textiles, foods, wood, transportation, and communication.
Corcoren Gallery of Art

The Corcoran Gallery of Art was founded and endowed in 1869 by

William Wilson Corcoran, a Washington banker and philanthropist. It was
his purpose to honor American art and to encourage American artists. In
accordance with his wish, the permanent collection of paintings is devoted
largely to works of American artists.
Former Senator Willian A. Clark, of Montana, generously bequeathed

the gallery his private collection of paintings, tapestrics, and other works
of art valued at from $3,000,000 to $5,000,000. The receipt of the Clark
Collection in 1928 is tho most important event in the history of the gallery.
Pan American Union

The Pan American Union is an international organization created and

purpose
the
of
closer
and
among
the member
and the offriendly finanfor cial its relations
development
cultural,countries
promotion commercial,

maintained by 21 American countries, including the United States. It has
intercourse and peaco. The architectural significance of the Pan American
buildings lies in the blending of North and South American styles, symbolic
of a common understanding of the republics of the Western Henisphere.

Interesting features of the Pan American buildings are: The inner
patio in which tropical plants are grown; the Gallery of Patriots; the Hall

of the Americas; the "Blue Aztoc" the main building with

the the inner walls of which are lined

varishaded
thetile
annex;
andholy
garden
loggia,
blue
from the
city of
early garden
Moxicanconnocting
civilization.with
Chamber of Commerce of the United States

The Chamber of Commerce building, which is of modernized classic
years Greek type, occupies the sito of the old red-brick mansion known for many

to the peoplo of the Capital and tourists who visited it as the one-

time home of Daniel Wobster.
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Court Building, it typifies the present period in national industrial and
commercial development.

It was designed primarily as a gathering place - a common center for the branchos of trade and industry, the many threads of which are drawn
togother in the national chambor's membership.

The 4-H Club party is to be held in the Council Chamber, a lofty
room with teakwood floors, high walls of French Crazanne marble, and a ceiling decorated by Ezra Winter. Between the boams are bas-relief panels and
a series of inscriptions setting forth the outstanding achievement of explorors who blazed the paths of trado.
Mount Vornon

Mount Vernon, the home of George Washington the greater part of his
life, was restored and is maintained by the Mount Vernon Ladios' Association, which was organizod in 1858. The association purchased the property
for $200,000 from Martha Washington's nephew. The estate, which now conprises 476 acros, was onco a part of an area patented to John Washington,

who came to America in 1656. The grounds have been landscaped and restored

according to Washington's records and advice to his estate manager.

George Washington's father first built a home on this land in 1735.
This was destroyed by fire, and Lawronce Washington, half brother of Georgo,
rebuilt the house and named the place Mount Vernon after his old connander,
Admiral Edward Vernon of the British Navy. In 1754 the estate passed into
the hands of George Washington, who, after his marriage to Martha Dandridge

Custis, a wealthy young widow, set about to develop the estate. Despite

his many absences from Mount Vornon, it was undoubtedly one of the bostmanaged estates in the Colonios, and Washington himself was regarded as one
of the richest non.

The house is typically Georgian in style, with a broad pillared
portico overlooking the Potonac River. In 1773 the clapboard siding was

covered with sand-finish wood, cut to give the appearance of stone blocks.

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National Gallery of Art
The National Gallery of Art is a bureau of the Smithsonian Institution. The Gallery was erected with funds given by the late Andrew W.
Mellon. The building is one of the largest marble structures in the
world. The exterior walls are of rose-white Tennessee marble.

The central architectural feature of the interior is the rotunda
under the dome, which is supported by 24 dark green marble columns.

Both the diameter of the rotunda and the height to the top of the dome
measure 100 feet. In each of the two wings of the building is a garden

court where visitors may rest on their tour of the galleries. Each

court has a colonnade of 16 monoliths of Indiana limestone and, in the
center, A fountain surrounded by plants and flowers.
At present, there are about 600 paintings and pieces of sculpture
in the building. The two great collections now on display were provided

by Andrew W. Mellon and Samuel H. Kress.

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RADIO
BROADCASTS

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RADIO PROGRAMS FROM THE NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

Saturday, June 21, 11:00 A.M.
COLUMBIA'S COUNTRY JOURNAL

Columbia Broadcasting System

Program conducted by Charles Stookey, Director
of Farm Broadcasts, Columbia Broadcasting System.
4-H Club Songs----The Camp Delegates

Interviews with Representative Campers:
Helen Gibbons, Eldorado, Arkansas
Douglass Quinn, LeMoore, California
Shirley Jewett, Weybridge, Vermont

Priscilla Ellen Miller, Palmer, Alaska
Jimmy Batchelder, Columbus, Georgia

ElRoy Dannewitz, Somonauk, Illinois
Irene Hotchkiss, Leon, Kansas
4-H CLUB MEMBERS' PART IN SELLING DEFENSE

SAVINGS BONDS--The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury

Monday, June 23, 11:30 A.M.
THE NATIONAL FARM AND HOME HOUR

Blue Network, National Broadcasting Company
Program presented under the supervision of William

E. Drips, Director of Agriculture, National Broadcasting Company.

Master of Ceremonies, John Baker, Radio Service,

United States Department of Agriculture.
MUSIC by the United States Marine Band, Captain

William F. Santelmann, Director.

MUSIC COMMENTARY by Ray Turnor, Extension Service,

United States Department of Agriculture.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING A GOOD TIME AND WHY

Anne Stiegler, Missoura, Montana
Margie Martin, Seymour, Indiana
George Hoffman, Jr., Saugus, Massachusetts
Raul Gonzalez, Utuado, Puerto Rico
THE DEFENSE CRISIS CHALLENGES RURAL YOUTH

M. Clifford Townsend, Director, Agricul tural
Defense Relations, U. S. Department of Agriculture
THE BILL OF DUTIES

Camp Delegates to be chosen
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CUSTOMER

IN REPLYING
REFER TO NO.

UNITED STATES MARINE BAND
MARINE BARRACKS,
WASHINGTON, D. C.

To the Delegates Attending the National 4-H Club Camp

The Band of the United States Marine Corps is
again very pleased to welcome the National 4-H Club
delegates to our Auditorium.

Your presence here is a symbol of the interest
manifested by our young people in making our nation a

better place for the American people.
The Marine Band welcomes this opportunity to
see and hear some of the 4-H Club members to whom we

feel such close connection thru our participation in
your National 4-H Music Hour. We attach the greatest
importance to these musical periods as it is a means

by which we are able to bring the best in music to
rural America.

Your achievements in your chosen fields give

promise of the great things that the youth of America
is capable of doing and you are to be congratulated
on your selection as delegates.
Very sincerely

William
Santelmann
William F.F
Santelmann
Leader, U. S. Marine Band

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DELEGATE AND LEADER ASSIGNMENTS

LIST OF DELEGATES

LIST OF LEADERS

CAMP ASSIGNMENTS TO DELEGATES

CAMP ASSIGNMENTS TO LEADERS

TENT AND GROUP ASSIGNMENTS

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EXTENSION SERVICE
Washington, D. C.

LIST OF DELEGATES

FIFTEENTH NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP
1941

State
Alabama

Alaska

Arkansas

California

Colorado

Connecticut

Delegates

R2, Heflin

Cleburne

Julia Beth Dykes

R2, Banks

Bullock

Freeman Smith
Comer Woodall

R2, Hartselle
R2, Newton

Morgan
Dale

Priscilla Ellen Miller

Palmer

Matanuska

Martha Lou Foreman
Helen Gibbons
Troy Cox

R1, Rose Bud
R3, Newport

Martin Cleoh Smith

R2, Box 300, Pine Bluff

Jefferson

Hazel Barnes

R3, Box 393, Visalia

Tulare

Elsie Sanders
Walter Martin
Douglas Vincent Quinn

R2, Box 306, Woodland

Esther Cooper
Idabel Hayman
Perry Blach

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Valley

R3, Box 68, E1 Dorado

Yolo

Los Angeles

R2, Box 206, Lemoore

Kings

Box 644, Padroni
R1, Box 327B, Boulder

Logan

RA, Yuma

Yuma

Star Route, Agate

Doris A. Ruwet

R1, Torringford St

Marion Woodward

Westville P.O. (Bethany)
Rockfall
Toll Gate Park, Groton

Torrington

Sue O. Webb

R1, Middletown
R1, Box 54, Greenwood

Lister V. Hall, Jr.

R1, Frederica

Richard Earnest Phillips

R2, Middletown

Willie Mae Mixon

R2, Manatee

Gertrude Alice Noxtine

R1, Palm Harbor

Lawrence Edward Bradley
Jack T. Dyer

Miccosukee

Alberta H. Pordham

White
Union
Jackson

104 E. Olive St., Pomona

Jack Fletcher

George Tremaine Goodwin

Florida

County

Virginia Bell

Victor F. Galgowski
Delaware

Address

Box 86, Lake Butler

Boulder

Elbert

Litchfield
Litchfield
Middlesex
New London

New Castle
Sussex
Kent

New Castle
Manatee

Pinellas
Leon

Union

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Address

State

Delegates

Georgia

Eugenia Fletcher

R3, Box 33, Valdosta
R2, Jefferson

Jimmy Batcheldor
Dan Pinckney

R1, Columbus
Box 15, Savannah

Loraine Anderson
Louise Downey

R1, Loami
R1, Putnam

Francis A. Boyle

R1, McNabb

Illinois

Juanita Potter

County
Lowndes

Jackson
Muscogee
Chatham
Sangamon

MarshallPutnan

MarshallPutnan

Indiana

ElRoy H. Dannewitz

R1, Somonauk

De Kalb

Betty Anne Leaming
Margie Martin

Romney

Tippecanoe
Jackson
Noble

Elmer Nussbaum

511 W. Fifth St. Seymour
R1, Albion
R1, Box 103, Monroe

Margaret Kelsey

R2, Iowa Falls

Hardin

R2, Bronson

Woodbury

Charles J. Duesler

Iowa

Ella Jean Waddell

R1, Brooklyn

Poweshiek

Richard Nelson

R2, Boone

Boone

Irene Hotchkiss

Butler

Merna Vincent

R3, Leon
R1, Alden

Clair K. Parcel

Mayo Route, Box 383

Maxell Williams

R4, Beloit

Mitchell

Gladys M. Tilton
Ollie Frances Wilson
Gerald Schaffer

R4, Lexington

Fayette

Richmond
Henshaw

Madison

Wayne Stewart

Wildie

Rockcastle

Ruth Childress

R3, Baton Rouge

East Baton

Annie Ruth Melville
Luke Leger, Jr.
Tait Whittington

Newellton
R1, Box 141, Rayne

Tensas

R2, Box 118, Alexandria

Rapides

Eunice Bailey
Mavis Leavitt
Oral L. Dunivan

Silvers Mills
R2, Turner

Piscataquis
Androscoggi

Earl Ellsworth

R2, Farmington

Merle Lang

Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Adams

Coldwater

Rice
Comanche

Union

Rouge

Maine

Maryland

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R2, Dixmont

Lucinda Holloway
Ann Lee Tipton

RFD, Hurlock
R2, Dickerson

J. Paul Duke, Jr.

Box 34, Clinton

William Irving King

Gaithersburg

Acadia

Penobacot

Franklin
Dorchester
Montgomery

Prince
Georges

Montgomery

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State

Delegates
SR

MassachusettsMuriel
PhyllisSalley
Hamilton IS
George A. Hoffman, Jr.

Michigan

Minnesota

Mississippi

Missouri

Montana

Franklin

Box 353, Attleboro
17 Endicott St. Saugus

Bristol

Vineyard Haven

Arlene Marshall

R1, Concord

Calhoun

Isabel Raynard
Harley Barber
Clare L. McGhan

Pickford
R1, Essexville
R2, Box 68, Charlevoix

Bay

Martha DeLanghe

R1, Box 32, Ghent

Lyon

Ione Evelyn Oberg
Barley R. Cederstrom
Earle G. Meschke

Box 14, Angus
R1, Watertown

Polk
Carver

R1, Welcome

Martin

Beth Gill

R1, Nesbitt

De Soto

Tom Allene Rose
Maurice Brown
Nelson Shaul

R1, Columbus

Lowndee

R2, Box 190, Leland

Washington

McLeod

Noxubee

Marceline Lankford

R1, Seneca

Newton

Mary Jean Lentz

R2, Box 664, Independence Jackson

Chippewa

Charlevoix

Jim 0. Heitmeyer

R1, Holliday

Monroe

Jack McFerron

R1, Asbury

Jasper

Frances Beck

Box 1. Round Butte,
R2, Box 172, Missoula

Lake

RA, Helena

Lester Reuss

Star Route, Forsyth

Doris Bamesberger
Norma Kolar

R2, Aurora
R2, Box 22, Wolbach

Frank E. Krivohlavek

R1, Dorchester

New Hampshire Edna Frances Harvey

Elvira Taylor
Hollon B. Avery

Rosebud

Hamilton
Howard

Saline
Cheyenne

R1, Epping
Box 424, New London

Rockingham
Merrimack
Merrimack

Hollis E. Willoughby
Bernice M. Garrigus

14 Mayfair Road,

Dorothea S. Potts

Box 161, Kingston
R1, Box 74, Flemington
Belvidere

Harry B. Stout

Missoula
Lewis and
Clark

R1, Gurley

R6, Concord
R3, Plymouth

Leroy Hardenburg

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New Salem

Gerald Smith

Robert James Rexroth

New Jersey

County

Essex
Dukes

Anne A. Stiegler
Alfred William Brass

Nebraska

Address

Morris Plains

Grafton
Morris
Somerset
Hunterdon
Warren

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State

Delegates

New Mexico

Tempe Gilbert
Mary Swinford
Buster Caviness

New York

Puerto Rico

Portales

istoo

Louise E. Mullen
Luella Tooley

anoita

R2, Manlius
R1, Wilson

Curry
Roosevelt
Quay

Genesee

Jefferson
Onondaga

Niagara

R1, Box 135, Sylva

R1, Box 0, Morrisville
R1, Box 75, Graham

Jackson
Durham
Alamance

Braxton Coates

R1, Smithfield

Johnston

I.Laverne Horsted

R1, Cleveland

Stutsman

Helen June Richards

Amenia

Cass

Lansford

Bottiness

Russell Heine

R1, Ellendale

Dickey

Emily Anne Benson
Carolyn Dorn

Box 521, Nevada

Wyandot

Box 53, Sedalia

William Reed Poling

R4, Van Wert

Madison
Van Wert

Paul W. Ulmer

R4, Marietta

Washington

Mattie Cozart

Waukomis

Garfield

Wilma Hamm

Hollister

Tillman

Wayne Boyd

Fairland

Dayton Rose

Bearden

Ottawa
Okfuskee

Mary Kathleen Kane

Box 7. Greenock

Allegheny

Lucille Whitmer

R2, Sunbury

Northumberian

Edward Kosa, Jr.

Richard B. Lefever

R1, Ulysses
R4, Lancaster

Lancaster

Angelita Miranda

Ponce, c/o Home Demonstration Agent

Irma V. Trenche

Rio Grande, c/o Home Demonstration

George Adams

Pennsylvania

R1, Box 35, St. Vrain
523 E. State St

Stafford
R2, Box 7. Antwerp

Mildred Thomas
Robert Newlin Wood

Oklahoma

R2, Box 613, Albuquerque Bernalillo

Leon Wagley

North Carolina Pansy Dillard

Ohio

County

RA, Box 46, St. Vrain

Duane Benedict
Walter Ganshaw

North Dakota

Address

Potter

Agent

Rhode Island

Manuel Domenech

Isabela

Raul Gonzalez

Utuado

H. Nadine Dawley
Mary Matteson
Horace A. Almy
Ronald Anderson

R1, Box 124, Richmond

R1, Scituate
Tiverton
7 Fairmont St
West Warwick

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Providence
Newport
Kent

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Delegates

South CarolinaBernice
Caroline
E. Coleman
Hance
Roy Howle

South Dakota

Tennessee

Virginia

Washington

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R2, Heath Springs

Lancaster

R2, Darlington

Darlington

R2, Twin Brooks

Grant

Eugene Edward Buhler

R3, Lake Preston
Box 616, Butler

Kingsbury

Luella Larson
Charles F. Snyder

R1, Centerville

Verneda Catherine Boynton

R3, Pikeville

Sunter

Day

Turner

R2, Clarksville

Bledsoe
Davidson
Hamilton
Montgomery

Sarah Pearl Davis
Elizabeth Rueter
Charles Ball

R3, Box 9, Gainesville

Cooke

R2, Box 50, Lorena

McLennan

R1, Pattonville

Lamar

Marvin McMillan, Jr.

Box 446, Mason

Mason

Shirley Jewett

R3, Weybridge

Marion Plumb
Richard Douse

R1, Box 164, Springfield
R1, West Danville

Addison
Windsor

Gerald Folsom

Box 73, Royalton

Windsor

Oralena Robinson

Glade Spring,

Louise Rash

J. Bryan Alvis, Jr.

R2, Crewe
R5, Richmond

Washington
Nottoway
Henrico

Taylor Grizzard

R1, Skippers

Greensville

Fern Alder

Kittitas

Ann Watzig

R2, Ellensburg
R1, Box 282, Orchards

Dean Lindley
Irving Newhouse

R3, Dayton
R1, Mabton

Edith Williams

Sam Gwinn

Wyoming

Anderson

Mary DeWilde

West Virginia Sara Caroline Besco
Nellene Isabelle Staub
Jack Willard Buchanan

Wisconsin

R1, Anderson

Box 501, Sumter

Mell Miller

Vermont

County

Carlisle Lewis

Merle Crawley

Texas

Address

R4, Nashville
R1, Sale Creek

R2, Triadelphia
Inwood

R1, Box 4-A,

Barboursville
R20, Box 35, Lockbridge

Frieda Nicolaus

Harriet Stanchfield

R4, Box 389, Waukesha
R3, Fond du Lac

Elton W. Broege

R4, Janesville

Harold E. Niles

R1, Mauston

LeNore Bagley

2122 House Ave., Cheyenne

Katie Barbara Gillett

R1, Powell

Charles Middleswarth
Lloyd Leon Wilson

R2, Wheatland

Box 382, Worland

Caledonia

Clark
Columbia
Yakima
Ohio

Berkeley
Cabell
Summers

Waukesha

Fond du Lac
Rock

Juneau

Lincoln
Park

Platte
Washakie

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EXTENSION SERVICE
Washington, D. C.

FIFTEENTH NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP - 1941

LEADERS ATTENDING

Alabama

T.A. Sims
Elizabeth DeLony

Alaska
Arkansas

Mrs. B. J. Bingle
W. J. Jernigan
Mary Loughead

California

W. G. Waterhouse
Mary Mies

Colorado

Jeanne Warner

Connecticut

A. J. Brundage
Elsie Trabue

Delaware

C. E. McCauley
Anne Moore

Florida

R. W. Blacklock
Ruby McDavid

Georgia

W. A. Sutton, Jr.
Emmie Nelson

Hawaii

G. E. Marvin

Illinois

O. F. Gaebe
Mary McKee

Indiana

Edna Troth

Iowa

F. P. Reed
Florence Forbes

Kansas

M. H. Coe
Mabel Smith

Kentucky

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R. H. Lickert

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Maine

W. C. Abbott
Bertha Ferguson
K. C. Lovejoy
Pauline Budge

Maryland

Massachusetts

M. S. Downey
Dorothy Emerson

G. F. Farley

H. A. Leland
Tena Bishop
Michigan

A. G. Kettunen
Ruth Schubert

Minnesota

s

A. J. Kittleson
Amy Wessel

Mississippi

J.E. Tanner

Blanche Goad
Missouri

R. S. Clough

Montana

R. E. Cameron

Nebraska

L. I. Frisbie
Allegra Wilkens

New Hampshire

C. B. Wadleigh
Hazel Colburn

New Jersey

K. W. Ingwalson
Dorothy Smith

Marjorie Merritt
New Mexico

G. R. Hatch

New York

W. J. Wright
Dorothy DeLany

North Carolina

L. R. Harrill
Frances MacGregor

North Dakota

H. E. Rilling
Margaret Latimor

Ohio

C. C. Lang

Virginia Bear

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Pennsylvania.

E. W. Cinnamon

Alice Carlson
A. L. Baker
Martha Leighton

Rhode Island

L. F. Kinney, Jr.

South Carolina

L. 0. Clayton
Mrs.Harriet F.Johnson

South Dakota

Tennessee

H. M. Jones
Geraldine Fenn

G. L. Herrington

Alma Nixon
Texas

J. W. Potts
Onah Jacks

Vermont

E. L. Ingalls
Ruth White Townsend

Virginia

G. A. Elcan
Hallie Hughes

Washington

Alice Sundquist

West Virginia

I. B. Boggs
Helen Davis

Wisconsin

V. V. Varney

Wyoming

B. W. Marston
Gladys Oller

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CAMP ASSIGNMENTS TO DELEGATES

1941 NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

Delegates Conference

Walter Martin, California
Gladys Tilton, Kentucky

Martha Lou Foreman, Arkansas

Luke Leger, Jr., Louisiana

Mary Jean Lontz, Missouri

Eunice Bailey, Maine
Elvira Taylor, New Hampshire

Mary Swinford, New Mexico
George Adams, North Dakota
Manuel Domenech, Puerto Rico

Walter Ganshaw, New York

Paul 7. Ulmer, Ohio
Irving Newhouse, Washington

Radio Programs

Jimmy Batcheldor

Saturday - June 21

Irone Hotchkiss

E1Roy H. Dannewitz
Helen Gibbons
Douglas Quinn

Shirley Jewett

Priscilla Ellen Miller

Monday - June 23

Anne Stiegler
George Hoffman, Jr.

Margie Martin
Raul Gonzalez

Georgia
Kansas

Illinois

Arkansas

California
Vermont
Alaska
Montana

Massachusetts
Indiana
Puerto Rico

Assistant Tourmasters
Bus No. 1 Comer Woodall, Alabama

LeNore Bagley, Wyoming

Bus No. 3 George Goodwin, Connecticut

Harriet Stanchfield, Wisconsin
Sara Besco, West Virginia

Bus No. 4 Richard Phillips, Delaware
Bus No. 5 Lawrence Bradley, Florida

Form Alder, Washington
Mary DeWilde, South Dakota

Bus No. 2 Jack Fletcher, Colorado

Bus No. 6 Francis Boyle, Illinois

Elizabeth Rueter, Texas

Place Wreath at Tomb of Unknown Soldier
Charles Middleswarth, Wyoming

770-41

Beth Gill, Mississippi

-2
Place Wreath at Tomb of George Washington

Russell Heine, North Dakota

Phyllis Hamilton, Massachusetts

Hosts and Hostesses for Assembly Speakers
Thursday - June 19

Friday - June 20

Saturday - June 21

Monday

- June 23

Charles Duesler

Indiana

Verneda Boynton

Earl Ellsworth asian

Tennessee
Maine

Ann Watzig

Washington

Leon Wagley

Margaret Kelsey

New Mexico
Iowa

Tait Whittington

Louisiana

Marion Plumb

Vermont

Virginia Bell

Alabama
Kansas

Esther Cooper

Harry Stout

Colorado
New Jersey

Lucinda Holloway

Maryland

Clair Parcel

Lester Reuss
Tom Allene Rose

Tuesday - June 24

Wednesday - June 25

Montana

Mississippi

Harley Barber

Michigan

Martha DeLanghe

Minnesota

Hollis E. Willoughby

New Hampshire

Braxton Coates

North Carolina

Hazel Barnes

California

Lloyd Leon Wilson
Sarah Pearl Davis

Wyoming
Texas

Jack McFerron

Missouri

Lucille Whitmer

Pennsylvania

Flag Raising
Thursday - June 19

Angelita Miranda

Puerto Rico

Duane Benedict
Idabel Hayman

New York
Colorado
Nebraska

Robort James Rexroth
Friday

- June 20

Troy Cox

H. Nadine Dawley
Carolyn Dorn
Buster Caviness
770-41

Arkansas
Rhode Island
Ohio

New Mexico

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Saturday - June 21

Tuesday

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William King
Eugene Buhler

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Caroline E. Coleman
June 23

- June 24

Maurice Brown
Louise Downey

Oklahoma

Maryland

South Dakota

South Carolina

Mississippi

Illinois

Doris A. Ruwet
Earlo G. Meschke

Minnesota

Mildred Thomas
Gerald Folsom

Vermont

Ella Jean Waddell
Wednesday - June 25

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North Carolina
Iown

Jeok Buchanan

West Virginia

Taylor Grizzard
Frieda Nicolaus
Richard B. Lefever
Edith Williams

Virginia
Wisconsin
Pennsylvania
Tennessee

Flag Loworing
Friday

- June 20

Saturday - June 21

Mondey

- June 23

Julin Beth Dykes
Alberta H. Pordham

Alabama

Elmer Nussbaum

Indiana

Alfred William Brass

Montana

Gerald Schaffer
I. Laverne Horsted
Hollon B. Avery
Gortrude Noxtine

Kentucky
North Dakota
New Hampshire

Jim C. Heitmeyer

Missouri

Juanita Pottor
Arlene Marshall
Oral L. Dunivan
Tuesday

- June 24

Bernice M. Gerrigus
Charles Ball
Horace A. Almy

Wednesday - June 25

Delaware

Florida

Georgia

Michigan
Maine

New Jersey
Texas

Rhode Island

Maxell Williams

Kansas

Dayton Rose

Oklahoma

Roy Howle

South Carolina

Annie Ruth Melville
Louise Rash

Louisiana

Virginia

ID-OFF

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Reporters for "4-H Record"
Wednesday - June 18
adoutd daves
adver

Thursday - June 19

Jack T. Dyer
Elsie Sanders
Harley R. Cederstrom

Mavis Leavitt
Marceline Lankford

- June 20

- June 22

Colorado
Nebraska

- June 23

Betty Anne Leaming

Indiana
Montana

Pansy Dillard

North Carolina

Leroy Hardenburg

New Jersey

Merle Long

Wyoming
Iown
Kensas

-

June 24

Arkensas
New York
Washington

Emily Anne Benson
Wayne Stewart

Ohio

Mary Kathleen Kane

Kentucky
Pennsylvania

Oralena Robinson

Virginia

Harold E. Niles

Tempe Gilbort

Delaware
New Mexico
Wisconsin

Ruth Childress
Irme V. Trenche

Louisiana
Puerto Rico

Mell Miller

Tennessee

Nellene Staub

West Virginia

Clare L. McGhan
Bernice Hance

Michigan
South Carolina
Massachusetts

Wayne Boyd

Oklahome

Wilma Hemm

Oklahome
Vermont

Richard Douse

Luella Larson

770-41

New Hampshire

Martin Smith
Luella Tooley
Dean Lindley

Muriel Salley
Tuesday

Connecticut

Frances Beck

Lister V. Hall, Jr.

Monday

Missouri

Perry Blach

Merna Vincent
Edna Frances Harvey

Sunday

Maine

Alabama

Katie Gillett

Saturday - June 21

Minnesota

Freeman Smith
Marion Woodward
Norma Kolar

Friday

Florida
California

Ronald Anderson

South Dakota
Rhode Island

Nelson shaul

Mississippi

J. Bryan Alvis, Jr.

Virginia

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Eugenia Fletcher
Ann Lee Tipton
Loraine Anderson

Georgia
Maryland

Mervin McMillan, Jr.

Texas

Illinois

Helen June Richards

North Dakota

Sam Gwinn

West Virginia

Assistant Camp Advisors

Victor F. Galgowski, Connecticut
Edward Kosa, Jr., Ponnsylvania
Elton W. Brooge, Wisconsin

Louiso E. Mullen, New York
Doris Bamesberger, Nebraska
Dorothea S. Potts, New Jersey

Pan-American Garden Party
Dan Pinckney, Georgia

Richard Nelson, Iowa

J. Paul Duke, Jr., Maryland
Gerald Smith, Massachusetts
Frank E. Krivohlavek, Nebraska
Robert Newlin Wood, North Carolina

William Reed Poling, Ohio
Merle Crawley, Tennessee

Irma V. Trenche, Puerto Rico

770-41

Sue 0. Wobb, Delaware

Willio Mae Nixon, Florida
Ollie Frances Wilson, Kentucky
Isabel Raynard, Michigan
Ione Evelyn Oberg, Minnesota
Mary Matteson, Rhode Island
Charles F. Snyder, South Dakota

Carlisle Lewis, South Carolina

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EXTENSION SERVICE
Washington. D.C.

CAMP ASSIGNMENT TO LEADERS

NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP - 1941

State Leaders' Conference
Martha Leighton, Pennsylvania
J. W. Whitehouse, Kentucky

M. H. Coe, Kansas

Helen Church, Missouri
B. W. Marston, Wyoming

Hallie Hughes, Virginia

Director H. C. Ramsower. Ohio

Marion Butters, New Jersey

Delegate's Conference
H. M. Jones, South Dakota
Edna Troth, Indiana
W. G. Waterhouse, California

Dorothy Emerson, Maryland

G. F. Farley, Massachusetts
Frances MacGregor, North Carolina

Mrs. Harriet F. Johnson, South Carolina G. L. Herrington, Tennessee
V. V. Varney, Wisconsin
Amy Wessel, Minnesota

L. R. Harrill, North Carolina
Elizabeth DeLony, Alabama

L. I. Frisbie, Nebraska

Geraldine Fenn, South Dakota
A.J. Brundage, Connecticut
Martha Leighton, Pennsylvania
K. W. Ingwalson, New Jersey

E. L. Ingalls, Vermont
Radio Programs

Marjorie Merritt, New Jersey

G. R. Hatch, New Mexico

Evening Programs and Recreation
Wednesday, June 18

R. W. Blacklock, Florida
Elsie Trabue, Connecticut

Emmie Nelson, Georgia

W. J. Jernigan, Arkansas

Thursday, June 19
C. B. Wadleigh, New Hampshire

Martha Leighton, Pennsylvania

772-41

Mrs. Harriet F. Johnson,

South Carolina

J. E. Tanner, Mississippi

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Saturday, June 21

Margaret Latimer, North Dakota
W. C. Abbott, Louisiana
G. E. Marvin, Hawaii
Florence Forbes, Iowa
G. R. Hatch, New Mexico

K. W. Ingwalson, New Jersey
Onah Jacks, Texas

C. E. McCauley, Delaware
Elizabeth DeLony, Alabama

O. F. Gaebe, Illinois

Hazel Colburn, New Hampshire

Ruth White, Vermont

I. B. Boggs, West Virginia

A. L. Baker, Pennsylvania

L. 0. Clayton, South Carolina
Hallie Hughes, Virginia

K. C. Lovejoy, Maine

Dorothy DeLany, New York

Alice Carlson, Oklahoma

Amy Wessel, Minnesota
E. W. Cinnamon, Oklahoma

R. C. Clough, Missouri

Allegra Wilkens, Nebraska

Alma Nixon, Tennessee

J.W. Potts, Texas

G. A. Elcan, Virginia

Emmie Nelson, Georgia
R. E. Cameron, Montana

B. W. Marston, Wyoming

Edna Troth, Indiana

Frances MacGregor, North Carolina
H.M. Jones, South Dakota

L. R. Harrill, North Carolina

V.V. Varney, Wisconsin
Sunday, June 22

Mary McKee, Illinois
A. G. Kettunen, Michigan

H. A. Leland, Massachusetts
Blanche Goad, Mississippi

Monday, June 23

I. B. Boggs, West Virginia

Florence Forbes, Iowa

Tuesday, June 24

W. G. Waterhouse, California
Frances MacGregor, North Carolina
Geraldine Fenn, South Dakota

Tena Bishop, Massachusetts
M. S. Downey, Maryland

V. V. Varney, Wisconsin

Wednesday, June 25

Ruth Schubert, Michigan
R. E. Cameron, Montana

C. C. Lang, Ohio
Amy Wessel, Minnesota

Committees

Committee to report on tours at National 4-H Club Camp
A. J. Kittleson, Minnesota, Chairman
Mrs. B. J. Bingle, Alaska

Mary Mies, California
W. A. Sutton, Georgia

L. E. Holman, North Dakota
Alice Sundquist, Washington
Bertha Ferguson, Louisiana

Mary Loughead, Arkansas
A. Budet Dominguez, Puerto Rico

L. F. Kinney, Jr., Rhode Island

Jeanne Warner, Colorado

772-41

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W. J. Wright, New York, Chairman
Ruby McDavid, Florida
F. P. Reed, Iowa

Ordonez, Puerto Rico
Rosa
Ohio
Virginia Bear,

T. A. Sims, Alabama
Anne Moore, Delaware

Dorothy Smith, New Jersey
Pauline Budge, Maine
Anita Burnam, Kentucky

Mabel Smith, Kansas

Pan-American Garden Party
K. C. Lovejoy, Maine
Blanche Goad, Mississippi
C. C. Lang, Ohio

772-41

Allegra Wilkens, Nebraska
W. J. Wright, New York
Gladys Oller, Wyoming

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10

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12

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12

New Mexico

38

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North Carolina

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26

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Ohio

30

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Rhode Island

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SUPPLEMENT TO DAILY PROGRAM

1941 NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

ASSEMBLY - 10:30 a. m. - AUDITORIUM.

Thursday. June 19. - Hon. Grover B. Hill, Assistant Secretary of
Agriculture.
Friday, June 20. - Graciela Mandujano, Director of Rural Informa-

tion, Ministry of Agriculture, Chile.

Introduced by Miss Mary Winslow, Adviser of

Civic Projects, Office of the Coordinator of

Commercial and Cultural Relations between the
American Republics of the Council of National
Defense.

Saturday, June 21. - Edward B. Rowan, Assistant Chief, Section of Fine
Arts, Public Buildings Administration, Federal
Works Agency.

Monday, June 23. - Dr. Russell M. Wilder, Member of Staff of the
Mayo Clinic.

Tuesday, June 24. - Hon. Wright Patman, Representative in United
States Congress from first Congressional Dis-

trict of Texas.

Wednesday, June 25. - Hon. Claude R. Wickard, Secretary of Agriculture.
STATE LEADERS' CONFERENCE. - 9 - 10:20 a. m. - ROOM 1039.

Thursday, June 19. - Dr. C. B. Smith. Reuben Brigham.

Friday, June 20. - Roy E. Dickerson, Reports by Federal Subcommittees.
Tuesday, June 24. - Director M. L. Wilson, Reports by Camp Committees.
PAN AMERICAN TEA. - 4:30 - 5:30 P. m., Saturday. June 21.-PATIO.
Songs of the Americas.
Theodore Pursley.

Songs of our own Country.
Georgia Washington.
Dorothy Ann Washington.

920-41

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SUPPLEMENT TO DAILY PROGRAM

1941 NATIONAL 4-H CLUB CAMP

ASSEMBLY - 10:30 a. m. - AUDITORIUM.

Thursday June 19. -Agriculture.
Hon. Grover B. Hill, Assistant Secretary of
Friday, June 20. - Graciela Mandujano, Director of Rural Informa-

tion, Ministry of Agriculture, Chile.

Introduced by Miss Mary Winslow, Adviser of

Civic Projects, Office of the Coordinator of

Commercial and Cultural Relations between the
American Republica of the Council of National
Defense.

Saturday, June 21. - Edward B. Rowan, Assistant Chief, Section of Fine

Arts, Public Buildings Administration, Federal
Works Agency.

Monday, June 23. - Dr. Russell M. Wilder, Member of Staff of the
Mayo Clinic.

Tuesday, June 24. - Hon. Wright Patman, Representative in United
States Congress from first Congressional Dis-

trict of Texas.

Wednesday, June 25. - Hon. Claude R. Wickard, Secretary of Agriculture.
STATE LEADERS' CONFERENCE. - 9 - 10:20 a. m. - ROOM 1039.

Thursday, June 19. - Dr. C. B. Smith. Reuben Brigham.
Friday, June 20. - Roy E. Dickerson, Reports by Federal Subcommittees.
Tuesday, June 24. - Director M. L. Wilson, Reports by Camp Committees.
PAN AMERICAN TEA. - 4:30 - 5:30 p. m., Saturday, June 21. .-PATIO.
Songs of the Americas.
Theodore Pursley.

Songs of our own Country.
Georgia Washington.
Dorothy Ann Washington.

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June 23, 1941
2:15 p.m.
RE FINANCING

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Haas

Mr. Hadley
Mr. Murphy

H.M.Jr:

All right, gentlemen. What is there in
May?

Haas:

Three and a quarter.

H.M.Jr:

I mean what else is there in May?

Haas:

That is all.

Hadley:

May 1 there is an HOLC issue and on May 15

there is a Federal Farm issue and they are

both fairly sizable. Eight hundred million

Federal Farm Mortgage on May 15 and seven

hundred eighty million of Home Owner's on
May 1.
H.M.Jr:

Dan, I haven't talked with anybody since I
have seen you. What is your thought?

Bell:

The market hasn't changed, has it?

Hadley:

The bonds have eased back a little bit. They
still have a small gain.

Bell:

I kind of like April. That gives us fourteen
to seventeen thirty-seconds.

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-2H.M.Jr:
Hadley:

H.M.Jr:

What do you like?

I think April is a good point if you are
willing to go on ten thirty-seconds. We
can do July, but you might not get much more
than ten on it.
No, I can't do that.
Henry?

Murphy:

I think I would be glad to take April. I

would give it a twelve, which seems like an
absolute minimum.

H.M.Jr:

George?

Haas:

April.

Bell:

This is really a little better than we thought

we could do when we started out last Thursday.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. You fellows were talking January.

Bell:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

What have you got in April, Dan, please?

Bell:

You mean maturing?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Bell:

There is one billion five hundred nineteen

of and
that are

first
time
on
April
15.
we
call those bonds for that date, they will be

million a quarter dollars percent, Treasury Certainly bonds, callable three if for the

refunded on some previous date, so it will be

clear if you do that.
H.M.Jr:

I would love to get out of that crowded
area anyway.

(Secretary held telephone conversation with
Mr. Rouse and Mr. Sproul as follows:)

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June 23, 1941
2:20 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Sproul and Rouse.

HMJr:

Hello.

Robert
Rouse:

Hello, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

How are you?

R:

Fine, thanks.

HMJr:

What does it look like for

R:

Well, we have just been going

HMJr:
R:

this RFC issue?

over it, and we still think it

looks like a 3 year 1%.
Where would that put it?

Well, that would put it about
16/32, that is a range of 12
to 19, say.

HMJr:

R:

Well, you fellows are much
higher than our boys.

Well, that's true on short

figures, Mr. Secretary. They are -

our charts show more - tend toward
showing the same as your people do

but the judgment we get of it and

it's pretty general tends the other
way and I've canvassed some of the
dealers since I talked with you
Just to get a check - Chris Devine,
a, 3 year 1 would be worth par
19, he thought that you might

make it a little shorter if the
premium was to be maintained at

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par, 19, but would expect
it to be at least par 14 to
16 and that such an issue
would go well. The Discount

could

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you
have
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preponderance of evidence from
Corporation recommend themselves. would par, banks this far 19. Brothers morning, be something that Rich worth 3 thought July In year I addition mentioned you par, 44, 1 3 you year and

these street people and the big
banks tending toward the 3 year
1%. You could make it two or
three cases, of c ourse the shorter

it 18 from that, the more attractive

it will be.
HMJr:
R:

HMJr:
R:

Our boye want to put it in April.
In April?
Yeah.

Well, that will be even more
attractive than if it's July,
from a market standpoint. After
two years, nine months if you

want to put a little insurance
on it, it's a good place to put
it.

HMJr:

Well, that's where they - all

of my men want to put it April 15.

R:

HMJr:

They don't feel that the 34 of
144 and 6 are any interference?

Well, they think we'll clear those
up before.

R:

Yeah. Well, two years and nine months

would suit us. We'd say that would

go very well. We just put - prefer

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-3a rather - think you could do
a 3 year 1 and do it handily.
see. Well, I'm just going to
I

HMJr:

make a check - one more check,

I want to make sure that nothing's
going to bust up on this side
tomorrow.

R:

There's just one thing more we'd

like to say and that is, if you
are going to come out with a very
rich tax anticipation note for
unlimited subscription by big
fellows, you have to have - take

some account of what that might
do to the short-term money market
and undoubtedly it would tend to

HMJr:

raise it up and such obligations
as these might sell off.
Well, I

R:

Our suggestion that if you're
going to put out a tax anticipation

security for the big fellows, it

should be at a merket rate rather
than a premium rate to facilitate

his operations which don't need

facilitation.

HMJr:

R:

Well, have you talked with Bell
about it?
Yes, we have. Just putting in a

plug for it here.

HMJr:

Well, I - I haven't seen it - Bell'sonly going to let me see it tonight.

But from what you tell me, it sounds
too rich.
R:

oh, it 16. We have found it was

too rich, definitely.

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HMJr:

Well, I'll talk to you about
it again before I do it.

R:

All right, sir.

HMJr:

Okay. Thank you. Bell will

R:

Right.

HMJr:

Thank you.

let you know.

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-3H.M.Jr:

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

Bell:

Iisdon't
rich.know what it is, but they say it

It is a little bit rich.
I don't know what it is. Certainly we won't

do it tomorrow.

After you read my memorandum I want to talk

to you about the results of our meeting.
H.M.Jr:

I do too. I have been very patient.

Bell:

I don't put the consensus of the meeting in

H.M.Jr:

What?

Bell:

This memorandum is just on the basis of the
kinds of security we could put out along the

this memorandum.

lines I talked to you about, but I want to

talk to you about the views of some of the
people other than that.
H.M.Jr:

We won't do that tax thing today.
(Secretary held a telephone conversation
with Mr. Welles as follows:)

143

June 23, 1941
2:25 p.m.

HMJr:

Operator:
HMJr:
Summer

Hello.

Mr. Welles.
Hello.

Welles:

Hello,

HMJr:

Sumner?

W:

Hello, Henry, I thought you

had forgotten my existence.
HMJr:

W:

Well,
it WAS the other way
around.

I haven't heard from you
for two months.

HMJr:
W:

Well, I'm here.
I've been very anxious to see
you from time to time.

HMJr:

oh

W:

However,

HMJr:

What's the matter with your
phone?

W:

HMJr:
W:

HMJr:

(Laughs) Nothing.

I thought I was the forgotten man.
I should say not.
The reason I'm calling you is,

I'm proposing to borrow
500 million dollars tomorrow
for RFC and I just wondered if
you or the President had anything
that

startling that you were going to

do tomorrow.

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-2W:

I don't know of anything, Henry.
So far as I'm concerned my
conscience 18 clear (Laughs)

HMJr:

Wonderful. will you keep it

that way until Wednesday morning?

(Laughs)
W:

I'll do my best - if I can - if

human
HMJr:
W:

HMJr:
W:

will permit me to.

All right.
All right, Henry.
My latch-string is always out.
All right, I hope to see you
soon.

HMJr:

And if the President says anything,
just remind him we are doing a little
borrowing tomorrow if the wants to

pull something out of the hat.

W:

HMJr:

All
right, I'll do that. I'll
bear that in mind.
Thank you.

Thanks, Henry. Goodbye.

145

Hadley:

The dealers have picked up quite a few of
these RFC issues at about nineteen, and it

looks like they want to hold the price there
until they get rid of them.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation

with Mr. Jones as follows:)

146

June 23, 1941
2:26 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

HMJr:

Secretary Jones.
Hello.

Jeese
Jones:

Hello, Henry.

HMJr:

How are you?

J:

Pretty good, how are you?

Operator:

HMJr:

I see you want to go down
the rapids of the St. Lawrence,
in a row boat

J:

Yeah. Well, I spent an hour and
a half with them.

HMJr:

I see.

J:

Gave them every reason that I....

HMJr:

Have you ever been up there?

J:

Never have.

HMJr:

You ought to go up there
sometime before they build
that dam.

J:

HMJr:

J:

HMJr:

(Laughs) And see what we're
going to destroy?
Yeah. Those Lachine rapids
are wonderful.

I see. I've never seen them.
Jesse, this is the way we
feel here - 2 years and 9 months,

1%, that'11 take it to April 15,
44.

147
2

J:

I think that's fine, Henry.

HMJr:

See?

J:

I think that's fine.

HMJr:

The other day when I spoke to
you - this January and February..

J:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And the Germans - Russiana are

giving you three months to the

good.
J:

Uh huh. That's fine.

HMJr:

I think that that's pretty
cheap money, don't you?

J:

HMJr:
J:

I think it's awful nice.
It's a little cushion there.
That's all right.

HMJr:

Little cushion.

J:

Well, they like it.

HMJr:

But the New York crowd I

can't follow - they are all
up in the air or all down.
Just now everything is wonderful,
and there's just a little margin
of safety.

J:

I think that's fine.

HMJr:

Well, we'll go ahead - be April 15
and we'll announce it in tomorrow
morning's papers.

Ji

You're going to - just for this
three new money?

148

HMJr:

J:

HMJr:

J:

Well, that's 5 - yes - 300 it'11 all be one issue.
Yeah.

The refunding of the new money
will
be one issue.

And it will be all right then
for us if you over-issue 10%

or 80?
HMJr:

oh yes.

J:

Because we've got - we can use
the money.

HMJr:

Oh, we'll go that.

J:

Okay.

HMJr:

Sure. The point that Bell
and I thought that (laughs) -

you're in the wholesale business
now over there.

J:

We certainly are.

HMJr:

And if we'd only have 300 or 200

million dollars worth of issuesthey come too fast.

J:

Yeah. Well, I've agreed and and going over this - you going
down to Pat's, aren't you?

HMJr:

Going down where?

J:

Going down to the funeral?

HMJr:

Yeah, but I'm not going by
train.

J:

You going to fly down?

HMJr:

Yeah.

149
4J:

Tomorrow? When 18 the funeral?

HMJr:

Well, the funeral is Wedneaday.

I was planning to go very early

Wednesday morning.
J:

Oh, I see. Well, we're figuring
with the British on that loan.

HMJr:

Yeah.

J:

And when we get a little further

HMJr:

All - you going to the funeral?

J:

No, I'm not going.

HMJr:

Oh.

J:

It's a little too hard on me.

HMJr:

What's that?

J:

It's a little too hard on me

HMJr:

Well, after all he was the Chairman

along, I'll talk to you.

to travel that much.

of the Finance Committee.

J:

Well, that's right. I think you're

the one man that ought to go, Henry.

And I said 80, I'm delighted that

you're going because you had a lot
to do with him and he d been a good
pal for you.

HMJr:

Yes, he had.

J:

And I'm awful glad you're going.

HMJr:

Yes, I was very fond of him.

J:

Well, then I'11 - you go ahead on
that and I'11 see you soon.

150

5HMJr:

You think you'll have anything
on that British thing this week?

Well, I think it depends. I've

J:

got another engagement in the

morning. If I make any progress
tomorrow, I'11 talk with you
tomorrow afternoon.

HMJr:

Will you because they're riding

J:

What the - we've - they've asked

me awful hard.

for, if we can go, to give them
about 100 a month.

HMJr:

Yeah.

J:

Which will - going to fit into

HMJr:

Well, as I say, if you could

our program pretty well.

Tuesday or Wednesday sort of

see your way clear to give a
time because they have been riding

me awful hard.
J:

I'll give you a ring first - as

HMJr:

Thank you.

J:

Okay.

soon as I can.

151

-5H.M.Jr:

O.K?

Bell:

I will give you this to take home tonight.
Oh, do I have to sign this?

H.M.Jr:

Bell:

Well, you have to sign some telegrams, unless
you want me to go ahead with them and not

bother you. They won't be ready until about
three-thirty.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we go into that meeting - don't you go
into this meeting now?

Bell:

Two-thirty?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Bell:

Yes, but I want to get this started.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. All right, boys.

152

June 23, 1962

Dear Sine:

Receipt is acknowledged of your Treasurer's lotter of June 23, 1941, enclosing on attested copy of a rese-

lution adopted by your Board of Directors on the I date

with respect to the proposed issuance of notes of the Carporation, to be designated 1 persons notes of Seriou w, in
the amount of $500,000,000, or thereaboute.

The proposed issue has my approval and I further
approve the form of the notes to be issued as not forth in
the above-mentioned resolution.

In compliance with your request, I shall be glad
to offer these notes for cale, and to offer to purchase on
July 3, 1941, as par and assured interest, the outstanding
Series N notes of the Corporation to the extent to which
the holders thereof subscribe to the issue of Series W notes,

and in this connection will utilize the facilities of the
Treasury and the Federal Reserve Banks.

Very truly years,
(Signed) H. Morgonthou. Je,

Secretary of the Treasury.
Reconstruction Finance Corporation,
Washington, D. c.

from Mr. Kilby's

the to attention of
Forwarded office

ELK any

Mr. Harry Mulligan

153
RESOLUTION

BE IT RESOLVED, That subject to the approval of the Secretary of the
Treasury, this Corporation hereby authorizes and approves the issuance of

its notes in the aggregate principal amount of Five Hundred Million Dollars
($500,000,000), or thereabouts, to be designated "Series W", to be in
denominations of $1,000, 35,000, $10,000 and $100,000, to be dated as of

July 3, 1941, to be payable to the bearer, at the Treasury Department,

Washington, D. C., or, at the holder's option, at any agency or agencies in
the United States which the Reconstruction Finance Corporation may, from time

to time, designate for such purpose, on April 15, 1944, to bear interest from
July 3, 1941, payable on a semi-annual basis on October 15, 1941, and there-

after on April 15 and October 15 in each year, until the principal thereof
shall be payable, at the rate of one per centum (1%) per annum; and it is
hereby directed that said notes be executed by the facsimile signatures of

the Treasurer and the Secretary of this Corporation, and that the facsimile
of the seal of this Corporation be reproduced on the face thereof, and that
the coupons hereinafter described be executed by the facsimile signature of

the Treasurer; said notes and coupons to be substantially in the following
form, to wit:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPORATION

NO.

NOTE

3

SERIES W

$

Reconstruction Finance Corporation, a corporation created and existing
under an Act of Congress (known as "Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act")
approved January 22, 1932, as amonded and supplemented, for value received,

promises to pay to the bearer, on April 15, 1944, the
principal sum of
Dollars (2

and to pay interest on said principal sum, at the rate of one per contum (1%)
per annun, from July 3, 1941, payable on a semi-annual basis on October 15,

1941, and thereafter on April 15 and October 15 in each year, until the
principal hereof shall be payable, upon presentation and surronder of the
interest coupons horeto attached as they severally mature, both principal and
interest payable at the Treasury Department, Washington, D. C., or at the
holder's option, at any agency or agencies in the United Statos which the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation may from time to timo designate for the
purpose.

This note is one of a sorios of notes, designated "Series Y", of like

tonor (except as sorial and amount) issued with the approval of the

Secretary
of
the
of
the
aforesaid
Act
as
amended and and to a resolution of the
supplemented, to Treasury under number pursuant authority Board of Congress, of Director

of said Corporation duly adopted on Juno 23, 1941. The income derived from
this note shall be subject to all Federal taxes, now or hereafter imposod.

This

note shall be subject to ostato, inheritance, gift or other excise taxes,
whether Foderal or State, but shall be exempt from all taxation now or hereafter
imposed on the principal or interest hereof by any Torritory, dependency, or
possession of the United States, or by any State, county, municipality, or
local taxing authority.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, Reconstruction Finance Corporation has caused this

note to be executed by the facsimile signatures of its Treasurer and its
Secretary, and has causod the facsimile of its seal to be reproduced

and the coupons annoxed hereto to be authonticated by the facsimile signature horoon,
of
its Treasurer,
all done in the City of Washington, District of Columbia, as
of July
3, 1941.

Reconstruction Finance Corporation
(FACSIVILLE SEAL)

(facsimile signature)

(facsimilo signature)

Treasuror

Socrotary

This noto is fully and unconditionally guaranteed both as
to interest and principal by
the Unitod States.

(facsimile signature)
Secretary of tho Treasury

(Text of coupon payablo October 15, 1941)
RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPORATION

will pay to boaror on
at the Treasury
Department. Washington,

or at a designated agency
DOLLARS

$

being interest than due on its

(FACSIMILE SEAL)

NOTE OF SERIES Y

Reconstruction Finance Corporation
(facsimile signature)
By

Treasurer
Yo.

(Text of coupons payable after October 15, 1941)
RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPORATION

will pay to boaror on
at the Treasury
Department Washington,
or at A designated agency
DOLLARS

being six months' interest thon due on its
NOTE OF SERIES W

Reconstruction Finance Corporation
(facsimile signature)
By
Treasurer

3

(FACSIMILE SEAL)

155

-

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That this Corporation apply to the Secretary of

the Treasury for approval of the issuance and the offering for sale of such
notes of said "Series Wn in the aggregate Principal amount of Five Hundred

Million Dollars ($500,000,000), or thereabouts; that the Secretary of the
Treasury be requested on behalf of this Corporation to offer for sale such
notos of said "Serios W" at par and accruod interest; and that the Secretary
of the Treasury be authorized on bohalf of this Corporation to offer to purchase
and to purchase on July 3, 1941, at par and accruod interest the outstanding

notes of this Corporation designated "Sorics N", maturing July 20, 1941, to the
extent to which the holdors thereof subscribe to notes of "Serios W".
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the Treasuror of this Corporation be and

hereby is authorized and directed to take such action and to make such payments of the Corporation's funds as may be necessary to give effect to the

provisions of this resolution; and that he be authorized and directed to
address substantially the following letter to the Secrotary of the Treasury:
The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.
Sir:

The Reconstruction Finance Corporation proposos to

issue in accordance with the provisions of Section 9 of the

Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act, as amended and supplo-

mented, its obligations hereinafter described in the total

principal amount of Fivo Hundred Million Dollars (3500,000,000)

or thoreabouts.

The proposed obligations will consist of the bearer
notes of this Corporation, to be designated "Sories W", to be
dated July 3, 1941, to be payable on April 15, 1944, to the
bearer at the Tronsury Department, Washington, D. C., or at
the holdor's option at any agency or agencies which the Roconstruction Finance Corporation may from time to timo designate
for the purpose, to bear interest from July 3, 1941, payable
on a somi-annual basis on October 15, 1941, and thereafter on
April 15 and October 15 in each year, until the principal thereof
shall be payable, at the rate of one per contum (1%) per annum,
and to be issued in donominations of 31,000, $5,000, $10,000 and
$100,000.

The Reconstruction Finance Corporation requests that
you approve, in accordance with the provisions of Section 9, as
amended, of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act, the
issuance of the notes of "Series vs, as horointefore described,
and that you further approve the form of the notes to be issued,
the toxt of which is embodied in the enclosed resolution.
The Reconstruction Finance Corporation requests that on
behalf of this Corporation you offer notes of the above-described
issue for salo at par and accrued interest.

156

-4The Reconstruction Finance Corporation further requests
that on bohalf of this Corporation you offer to purchase on July 3,
1941, at per and accrued interest the outstanding notes of this
Corporation designated "Series N", maturing July 20, 1941, to the
extent to which the holders thereof subscribe to the issue of
"Series W" notes.

An attested copy of the resolution authorizing the
issuance and sale of the notes herein described is enclosed for
your information.

Very truly yours,
RECONSTRUCTION FINANCE CORPORATION
@

By

Treasurer.
HHH

***

***

#HH

#HHH

###

The foregoing resolution was duly adopted by the Board of Directors
of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation on the 23rd day of June, 1941.

Secretary

Reconstruction Finance Corporation

157
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

June 23, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau
TO

FROM

W. H. Hadley

R. F. C. ISSUES

Probable
Price

Premium

Term

Coupon

Yield

2 years

3/4%

0.60

100.11

11/32nds

7/8%

0.67
0.69

100.14
100.12

14/32nds
12/32nds

0.73
0.76

100.22
100.19

22/32nds
19/32nds

0.75
0.78

100.21
100.18

21/32nds
18/32nds

0.80
0.83

100.17
100.14

17/32nds
14/32nds

0.87
0.90

100.13
100.10

13/32nds
10/32nds

1-1/8%

0.87
0.90

100.24
100.21

24/32nds
21/32nds

1-1/8%

0.95
0.98

100.18
100.15

18/32nds
15/32nds

(7/15/43)

2-1/4 yrs.
(10/15/43)

2-1/2 yrs.

1%

(1/15/44)

2 yrs. 7 mo.

1%

(2/15/44)

2-3/4 yrs.

1%

(4/15/44)
3 years

1%

(7/15/44)

3-1/4 yrs.
(10/15/44)

158

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

June 23, 1941

TO Secretary Morgenthau

2:00 P. M.

FROM ". H. Hadley

R. F. C. ISSUES
Term

Coupon

Yield

Probable Price

Premium

Nov. 15, 1943

7/8%

0.70
0.72

100.13
100.11

13/32nda
11/32nds

7/8%

0.73
0.76

100.11
100.8

11/32nds
8/32nds

0.73
0.76

100.22
100.19

22/32nda
19/32nds

0.75
0.78

100.21
100.18

21/32nda
18/32nds

0.80
0.83

100.17
100.14

17/32nds
14/32nds

0.82
0.85

100.16
100.13

16/32nds
13/32nds

0.87
0.90

100.13
100.10

13/32nda
10/32nds

0.87
0.90

100.24
100.21

24/32nds
21/32nda

(2 yrs. 4 mos.)
Jan. 15, 1944

(2 yrs. 6 mos.)
1%

Feb. 15, 1944

1%

(2 yrs. 7 mos.)
April 15, 1944
(2 yrs. 9 mos.)
May 15, 1944

1%

1%

(2 yrs. 10 mos.)
July 15, 1944

1%

(3 years)
1-1/8%

159

June 23, 1941
2:30 p.m.
RE AID TO BRITAIN

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Cochran
Mr. White

Mr. Viner
H.M.Jr:

We decided on two years and nine months

Viner:

Too low.

Bell:

That inning of Eccles' before the Banking

for the RFC at one percent.

and Currency Committee was Saturday.

H.M.Jr:

I see. All right, Harry, let's go.

White:

On the first item, they said they were going

to get considerable amount of information
over the week-end from London. You might
want to ask them what they have got that they
were going to have ready today, general
information that they were going to have
ready, to supplement other information they
have given us. That is number one.

H.M.Jr:

Go ahead.

White:

Number two --

H.M.Jr:

Go a little faster, Harry.

White:

Number two, the contracts which Cox is par-

ticularly interested in having them give us,

160

-2particularly the steel contracts, because

those are the ones which he wants to examine
to see whether he can take any over and he
wants the specific contracts, and they maybe
brought some or should bring some.
H.M.Jr:

They haven't done that yet?

White:

No, they haven't.

H.M.Jr:

All right, next.

White:

The next is, he also wants a sample of the other kinds of contracts which they have
already placed since March 11 in order to

ascertain whether he can take some of those
over. We have talked a good deal about them,

but they have not yet given the exact contracts and Cox wants to have the contracts
and not any description of them.

H.M.Jr:

Has Cox seen this?

White:

No, he hasn't, but I have talked to him

over the phone and he said he would try to

be here early, but I guess he couldn't.
But those are two things he is particularly
interested in.
Viner:

Is he going to be here at three-thirty?

White:

Yes, he is.
Number 4 is a memorandum which they said

they were going to prepare and have ready
for Monday to discuss items which they think

are administratively difficult to place, and

which would provide the basis for discussion
as to which of them might be taken over.
H.M.Jr:

All right.

161

-3White:

Number five, there was - they hoped to get
additional information on the specific needs
of Dominions and India. They have some.
They gave us some. They weren't a complete
list
and they said they were going to try
to get some more detailed items.

Viner:

Did they expect to have that by today?

White:

They said they might. I didn't know, but he

might want to ask Merle to push them.
H.M.Jr:

Next?

White:

They also said they were working on a centralization of South African purchases in the United
States, some committee. You might want to
ask them whether there was any progress, although I don't suppose there could have been

much over the week-end.

Number seven. As you know, they have sent

about twenty-five million dollars worth of

wool here. There is another fifty million
on the way. They have been unable to sell
any of that.

Dan pointed out possibly for political reasons,
and they are raising the question whether they
might not be able -H.M.Jr:

White:

On that, they said they didn't want to do
it on account of our wool. Jesse Jones would
go to town on that. They are always thinking
of our people.
They said, "We are stopping it, and we are
delighted to sell it," and we asked them to
prepare a memorandum on it, and they are
supposed to have a memorandum on it.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

162

-4Bell:

Jesse raised the political issue. He had
an agreement with three Senators on the

Hill that they would not sell this wool.
Viner:

Well, the supply situation may have changed.

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

That is right.
It could be real. Next.

White:

They have other items which they would like

to sell us or which - maybe like the wool,

and then there are some items like cocoa
which they contemplated selling us about

fifty million dollars worth, they say, but

which arrangements are now being made to
buy elsewhere, which would mean that they

will have from forty to fifty million dollars
less exchange if it goes through.

Now, we asked them to submit memoranda on

each one of these points for your consideration, and they may have some of them today
and they may not.

H.M.Jr:

What is the next one?

White:

Merle raised the question of our taking over
the Swedish charters, and they said they
were trying to get some information on it.
They may have more.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Bell:

That is shipping charters, you mean?

White:

Yes, Swedish shipping charters.

H.M.Jr:

The next?

White:

The next is a general question. You can

leave it off if you want to.

163

-5H.M.Jr:

With my background I can do this all right,
unless you (Bell) have got some objections.

Bell:

No, I haven't. I was wondering how you are
going to bring the Canadians into this picture.
There is nothing here other than the Dominions --

H.M.Jr:

By the time we get down to that, I will be

so tired - if I last until four-thirty I will

be good today.
Viner:

I would suggest that if you get through with
them pretty early that again you say if they
want to have a further talk - so you can
push us out, you see.

H.M.Jr:

I am worn out now.

164
COPY

AGENDA FOR 3:30 MEETING

1. Any additional information from London to be discussed.

2. Actual contracts representing type cases which the British
propose to enter into.
3. Actual contracts placed since March 11.
4. Memorandum (which British were to have prepared) on U.K.

imports from U.S. administratively difficult to place

under Lend-Lease.

5. Further information on needs of Dominions and India which
may be handled under Lend-Lease.

6. Any development with respect to the centralization of
South African purchases in U. S.

7. Memorandum on possible sale of wool already here or stored
in Australia.

8. Any further information on other materials which the

Defense Supply Corporation contemplates buying from the

British Empire, or which the British Empire hopes to
sell to U. S.

9. Information on our taking over Swedish charters and
placing them under Lend-Lease.

10. Suggestions from the Canadian Treasury on ways in which

we could help them improve their dollar position.

June 23, 1941

165

Treasury Department
TELEGRAPH OFFICE

P010 M DH FRANK E-2060

1041 JUN 23 AM II 47

CG CAMBRIDGE MASS JUN 23 1941 1006A
HON HENRY MORGENTHAU JR

SECRETARY . PERSONAL
IN ORDER TO CLEAR UP A FEW MATTERS HERE UNLESS YOU WISH
OTHERWISE AND so ADVISE WILL TURN UP WEDNESDAY MORNING
INSTEAD OF TUESDAY AS PREVIOUSLY SUGGESTED

JAMES M LANDIS
1142A

166
June 23, 1941
2:39 p.m.

Grace

Tully:

Well, that's good. I'm just

about. Mr. Secretary, the
President said he'd be very glad
to send a letter to Conant.
He wonders if you'11 draft

it for him.

HMJr:

Oh.

He says, would you do that
now? He said on the La Guardia
thing that Professor Landis
will have to straighten that
out with La Guardia himself.

He doesn't feel that he should
do that.

HMJr:

oh.

But he will do the Conent

one and he said would you be

good enough to draft it for him.

Yeah.

All right, sir.
HMJr

T:

HMJr:
T:

What will be deadline to get
it over to you today to get
him to sign it?

Well, I'll be around here
probably till 6 or 6:30.
Yeah. What about
But I imagine he may send

for me around 5 or a little

after. If you had it over

167

-2here by that time, I would
take it with me then.
HMJr:

By when?

T:

He may send for me around

HMJr:

T:

5 '' clock.

I'll get into your hands.

When I send it with a secret
service, do you get it.

Yes, he brings it right into
me.

HMJr:
T:

5

HMJr:
T:

He does?

That's right, sir. I took the
memorandum over that you sent
a little while ago.
Did you look at that?

No, I gave it to the President,
but I - it was marked - I knew
it came directly from you and
the gentleman brought it in to

me.

HMJr:
T:

Right-o. How 1e he feeling today?

Oh, he's feeling pretty well. It's
so awfully warm and everything and
I don' t know that - I think he feels

better - doesn't have any temperature
today.

HMJr:

A11 right, thank you.

T:

All right, Mr. Secretary, fine.

HMJr:

Thank you.

T:

Goodbye.

HMJr:

Goodbye.

168
6/23/41

Draft of letter for the President's signature prepared
on White House stationery and sent to the President by
Secret Service Agent Dipper at 4:20 p.m.

169

June 23, 1941

Dear President Conant:

Many times during my administration I have turned
for aid and counsel to American colleges and universities. Invariably their response has been generous
and their cooperation unfailing even under circumstances
which involved great inconvenience and sacrifice of
their important work of education and research. None
has been more helpful in providing the highest type of

leadership in critical times than Harvard University.
Once again, therefore, I turn to you as President of
Harvard with a request for assistance.

Dean James Landis has generously consented to
accept appointment as Under Secretary of the Treasury

subject to the willingness of the Corporation to grant
him leave of absence. I should be deeply grateful if
you would bring this matter to the attention of the
Corporation with a recommendation for favorable action.

In doing so you will render invaluable aid to the nation
in this hour of great decision.
Sincerely yours,

President James B. Conant,
Harvard University,
Cambridge, Massachusetts.

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June 23, 1941
2:45 p.m.
RE DEFENSE SAVINGS BONDS

Present:

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Callahan
Mr. Powel
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Odegarde

All right, gentlemen, you have got ten

minutes. Let's see what you can do. I
just wondered if I had a Publicity Department.

Powel:

I thought your story was very nice in the

Times yesterday.
H.M.Jr:

Did you like it?

Powel:

Very much.

H.M.Jr:

I wrote it.

Powel:

The picture, I thought, was charming.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Kuhn:

This is a repetition of last week. That is, it
is new names but the same subject.

H.M.Jr:

You are not serious about the picture, are
you?

Powel:

I thought it was very interesting.

170

June 23, 1941
2:45 p.m.
RE DEFENSE SAVINGS BONDS

Present:

Mr. Callahan

H.M.Jr:

All right, gentlemen, you have got ten
minutes. Let's see what you can do. I
just wondered if I had a Publicity Depart-

Mr. Powel
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Odegarde

ment.

Powel:

I thought your story was very nice in the

Times yesterday.
H.M.Jr:

Did you like it?

Powel:

Very much.

H.M.Jr:

I wrote it.

Powel:

The picture, I thought, was charming.

H.M.Jr:

All right.
This is a repetition of last week. That is, it

Kuhn:

is new names but the same subject.

H.M.Jr:

You are not serious about the picture, are
you?

Powel:

I thought it was very interesting.

171

-2H.M.Jr:

What I am trying to get over to you publi-

city men, which ought to be a novel experience,
I am asking for suggestions that you give me
so I can give them at my three o'clock press
conference, but you are all such modest

blushing violets I can't get anything out
of you.

Powel:

How would you like to tell them the story
of Treasury House? I have got the bank it

grew out of, partly full of money.

H.M.Jr:

They would be more interested if I gave them

Callahan:

I will get the banks.

H.M.Jr:

Where?

Callahan:

Across the street.

H.M.Jr:

Have them here for Thursday morning.

Kuhn:

a bank.

You notice it says on the outside of the
banks what you get for your nickel, your
dime and your quarter.

H.M.Jr:

If you have them here, you see, what I will

Powel:

We could have them here now in ten minutes,
couldn't we?

H.M.Jr:

No, have them next Thursday and I will put
a quarter in each one and give each man a

do --

bank.

Powel:

Do you want any detail on the Treasury House

for today, or will you save that?

H.M.Jr:

No, I will leave this for Thursday.

172

-3Schwarz:

There is one story out.

Callahan:

Did it go out today?

Schwarz:

Yes.

Callahan:

Good.

H.M.Jr:

I will leave that. But I was thinking about
this thing here. Don't they want other
cities?

Powel:

They are going into other cities if this

experiment is a success. They consider
Pennsylvania Avenue not only the main street
of Washington, but the main street of America.

H.M.Jr:

Who put this money in?

Callahan:

It belongs to Mr. Graves.

H.M.Jr:

Belongs to Graves?

Schwarz:

Did belong to him. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

Well, you come back with that. I will launch
that next Thursday.

Kuhn:

Those are the companies that have put in

payroll plans. I have lots more, but those

are insurance companies. I thought we could
lump them all together.

H.M.Jr:

Are there copies for the boys, or just the

one copy?
Kuhn:

Just the one copy.

Schwarz:

I will have some made.

H.M.Jr:

Get some made, will you? Just tell Stephens

what you want.

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-4Powel:

Mr. Secretary, did you get a letter from the

Mayor of Philadelphia today?

H.M.Jr:

If I have, it hasn't reached me.

Powel:

He offered in the letter to let you strike
the Liberty Bell to announce the Treasury

Hour. That will be struck with a light
hammer but will be amplified to any desired
intensity. That is a very unusual, and I
think, pleasant thing.

H.M.Jr:

How do I get there.

Powel:

You got a letter from him. I have got the
carbons.

Kuhn:

H.M.Jr:
Powel:

He will do it himself if you want him to.
How do I strike it?
You can strike it by remote control, delegate
somebody to strike it, one of your children,
if you have a child to spare or know a child,

or you can do it by remote control. It is

in Philadelphia. It would make a very nice

newsreel.
H.M.Jr:

What do you think of it, Peter?

Odegarde:

It is a very good idea.
I am going to speak from here. I am not

H.M.Jr:

going to New York.
Powel:

The Bell would not leave Philadelphia.

H.M.Jr:

I wouldn't ask it to.

Powel:

But anybody we appoint to strike it, subject

to the mayor and the corporation's acceptance,

can strike it.
H.M.Jr:

Well, think it out, whether it can be done
with a button and so on.

174

-5Powel:

It could.

H.M.Jr:

If it could be done with a button, I think
it would be nice, an electric key.

Callahan:

They can work that out, I am sure.

Schwarz:

Could the Captain of the Port do it for
you, the Coast Guard Captain?

H.M.Jr:

No, no.

Callahan:

If you don't do it, Mr. Secretary, I think

we should let the Mayor of Philadelphia.
H.M.Jr:

Well, either way; and on the Treasury House
I have got a suggestion. Use the President
of the Washington Press Club.

Callahan:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

They will like him.

Schwarz:

He is an Associated Press man, too.

H.M.Jr:

The President of the Press Club.

Schwarz:

Want us to help you spend another eighteen
seventy-five?

H.M.Jr:

How?

Schwarz:

The first baby born in Gallinger on July 1.
If it happened to be a pickaninny -- (Laughter)

Callahan:

Beginning today the newspapers started
carrying the quizzes, or the announcements.
Here is the News for today and the Chicago
Times.

H.M.Jr:

Do you want me to say something about it?

Callahan:

I thought it would be very nice if you could
make some complimentary statement about the

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-6responses which we are getting from the

newspapers.
H.M.Jr:

Where is this?

Powel:

Left-hand column.

Callahan:

H.M.Jr:

That is the New York Herald Tribune this
morning announcing it.
I see.

Callahan:

All these letters came from the newspapers
saying they are running them.

Powel:

The detail there, Mr. Secretary, out of

fourteen hundred and fifty newspapers, a
thousand and forty-eight have replied

pledging full cooperation. There are

nine hundred ninety trade papers and a
thousand forty-one foreign language papers.
Replies are coming at the rate of two hundred

fifty a day. That is what we sent them,
which is a very unusual sheet, that which
you have in your hand.

There is a coupon on it at the bottom, you
see, so that they can acknowledge it and

mail the coupon.
H.M.Jr:

I just wondered if you wanted to tell this
to the local boys where it is going to their
home offices.

Callahan:

Well, I think you can tell them how pleased
you were with the cooperation.

H.M.Jr:

Why not wait another day or two?

Callahan:

Well, we will have much more at the end of
the week, but by the end of the week it would
be old stuff. Everybody would have seen it.

176

-7Don't you think that is true, Chick?
Schwarz:

One publisher - I think the Secretary has

H.M.Jr:

I don't react to this. I would like to

a point.

know about it again Thursday, but I just

don't quite react. I will tell you what

you have done - I will do that - this

glass thing for you on Thursday and I

will do this follow-up on this statement
today.

Have you got anything else up your sleeve?
Callahan:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

You haven't got any of these cards?

Powel:

Another yes, I have got a twenty-four sheet

right downstairs. I will bring it up.

H.M.Jr:

What is a twenty-four sheet?

Powel:

That is the biggest kind of billboard known.

I will tell you the story.

The First National Bank of Chicago, Mr. Brown,
very much offended by the defeatism of some
elements in Chicago, asked us if we would

accept a hundred and fifty local city twentyfour sheet outdoor panels or billboards.

We wrote the copy. He was very generous.
Whereupon he put his order to the General
Outdoor Advertising Company, who immediately
presented him with a hundred and sixty more,
giving a coverage in Chicago of three hundred

and ten billboards.

Mr. William Wrigley, noticing that, and also
feeling very opposed to the defeatism of
Chicago, presented us with all his billboards
throughout the country to make any use --

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-8H.M.Jr:
Powel:

Throughout the country?

Yes. To make any use we please. At
Forty-Second Street and Fifth Avenue is
the most seen billboard in the world.

That now has a large sticker on it,

"Defense Savings Bonds", and just some,

these stickers, about this square (indicating)
are going on the country's outdoor signs
where we consider those signs to be in
good taste. Put out by a reputable company.
H.M.Jr:

What do you do with Wrigley's board?

Powel:

Not in front of beauty spots. I will not
do that.

Wrigley's boards, we are in conversation

with him now, and I think we will do this

scheme on a somewhat more ample scale. That

includes spectaculars, little "Spear" men

winking at night.
H.M.Jr:

Will you know where they are?

Powel:

We will know here where they are and what

the circulation of each is.

You know, off the record, I was asked to

be the stuffed shirt of the billboard industry
about six months ago, and declined on the
grounds that nothing could be done. They

are the only kind of advertising that pays
the individual citizen an income.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I have got to stop now, but I just

want to tell you, if you men through Odegarde and Kuhn and Graves don't reach me

with the stuff, it is your own fault.

Now, I am hungry for the stuff. I can put

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-9-

put it out for you, and I would like to

know.
Powel:

Would
you rather have it verbally, sir, or in
memorandum form?

H.M.Jr:

No, I want you - I have got time enough once

or twice a week. I can't do it just now.
Today is a bad day. We will just take this
one thing.

But it is up to you fellows to sell me what
you are doing, because I can't dream it,
and if you tell Graves that you are ready
with some stuff - now, if you have got some

of that billboard stuff, if you would pin

it up downstairs around the curtain in my
movie theater I can go down and look at it

and then if it is all right, Chick can take

the press boys down and say, "Here is what
the president of the bank is doing down
there and" - you know, Chicago and so forth,

and they will run it.

I would pin the things up around the curtains
downstairs, you see.

Powel:

I will.

H.M.Jr:

And let them go in and you (Callahan) and

Chick bring the boys in and say, "This is
what is going on in Chicago." They might
want a photograph of it.
Callahan:

Very good.

H.M.Jr:

I can give you ideas. The thing to do is

pin it up downstairs and then let the Treasury
news men go downstairs and see it. I would

like to see it first myself, though. Just

as soon as it is pinned up on that curtain,
I will go down and look at it.

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- 10 Powel:

Will you have that done right away, Vince?

Callahan:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

You will have to excuse me now.