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DIARY

Book 410

June 18 and 19, 1941

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Page

Appointments and Resignations
Dwan, Ralph:

Foley plans to move Dwan from Chief Counsel of
Customs to one of Assistant Chief Counsels for
Internal Revenue - 6/18/41

410

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-BBanco di Napoli Trust Company, Chicago
See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control
cChile

See Latin America
China

See War Conditions
Coast Guard

Training program expansion to help meet growing
requirements of Navy endorsed in HMJr's letter
to Knox - 6/19/41

a) Knox's letter - 6/18/41

b) HMJr's letter to Chairman, Committee on
Appropriations - 6/19/41
(See also Book 412, page 326 - 6/23/41)

149
150
151

Cowles, Gardner
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

-DDefense Savings Bonds
See Financing, Government
Dwan, Ralph

See Appointments and Resignations

-F-

Farben, I. G., Industrie
See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control
Financing, Government

Reconstruction Finance Corporation financing
discussed by HMJr, Bell, Hadley, Haas, and Murphy 6/19/41
Defense Savings Bonds:

Cowles (Iowa) and Luce organizations: Lack of
cooperation with program discussed by Wallace
and HMJr - 6/19/41

Sherwood (Robert 3.) speech - 6/19/41

162

157
219

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Germany

See War Conditions

-HHungary

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control

-L Latin America
See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control
Chile:

Hochschild transmits report on Nazi activities 410

6/18/41

80

Luce, Henry R.
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds

-0 011

See War Conditions: Export Control

-RRevenue Revision

Excess Profits Tax:

No further extension of time for filing returns

discussed at 9:30 meeting - 6/18/41
Estate tax rates as proposed compared with present -

2

4

6/18/41

Schedule below Treasury rates adopted by House
Ways and Means Committee - 6/19/41

211

-SSecret Service

Protection of President - report on - 6/19/41

Sherwood, Robert E.
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds
Standard 011 Company of New Jersey

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control

-UUnited Kingdom

See War Conditions: Military Planning

213

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Book Page
War Conditions
Airplanes:

Shipments to the British - Kamarck report 6/19/41

410

237

China:

Deflation policy as means for improving price
situation - Gauss memorandum from Chungking 6/19/41

Exchange market resume' - 6/18-19/41
Export Control:
Oil:
Ickes warned to obtain approval of FDR or

245

93,255

State Department in forbidding export or

import of oil from or to United States -

6/18/41

Foreign Funds Control:
General freezing order discussed by representatives

of Treasury, State, and Justice - 6/18-19/41
a) Coordinating Federal Bureau of

217

32,208

Investigation activities with those

of Treasury discussed
b) Standard 011 sale of Hungarian
properties to I. G. Farben discussed
1) Cochran memorandum on conversation

with Crane - 6/18/41
Banco di Napoli Trust Company, Chicago: Run of
sizeable proportions reported by Comptroller's

Office: citizenship papers or equivalent proof
required for withdrawals from savings accounts 6/18/41

62

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Germany:

Nazi assets available for expenditure in
United States before general freezing - HMJr's
memorandum for FDR - 6/18/41

65

Latin America:
Stopford (British Embassy) discusses "Axis

funds passing through or situated in Latin
America" with Cochran - 6/18/41

Military Planning:
Reports from London transmitted by Butler 6/18-19/41

War Department bulletin:
German Army - miscellaneous notes on - 6/18/41
Purchasing Mission:

FDR authorizes transfer of defense articles 6/18/41

a) Worthington ... air compressors

b) Caterpillar tractors

c) Graders and spare parts

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June 18, 1941
9:30 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Viner
Mr. Gaston
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Graves
Mr. Blough
Mr. Haas
Mr. Odegarde
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Cochran
Mr. White

Mr. Foley

Mr. Sullivan
Mrs. Klotz
H.M.Jr:

Herbert, we will start with you.
(Mr. Foley entered the conference.)

Gaston:

I don't think I have anything special.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got that thing I asked you?

Gaston:

Yes, I have. I have got a little note for
you that I didn't get to yesterday. I had

Birgfeld up and talked to him at some
length and I don't know whether that letter

is right.

H.M.Jr:

Thanks.

(Mr. Sullivan entered the conference.)

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-2Gaston:

The transports are rendezvousing at present

down off Norfolk. They were - the transports
which our men are manning. They have - I
think all three of them have left New York
and they are to meet down at another point.
H.M.Jr:

Where is Sullivan?

Sullivan:

Right here, sir.

H.M.Jr:

All right, John, say your piece.

Sullivan:

You spoke yesterday about not permitting

any further extension of time on the filing

of excess profits tax returns. The Commissioner
has sent a memorandum to all of the collectors
of internal revenue and has drafted a press

release to be given out so that the collectors
will be protected and it will help them in

their job. I thought I might give that to

Mr. Schwarz and he can release it over here.
H.M.Jr:

All right. What else?

Sullivan:

Yesterday afternoon they worked most of the

time on the state taxes. We disposed of the
two troublesome proposals that would - one,

proposed by Congressman Dewey, that would

allow a person to buy a tax anticipation

certificate to be used for paying his state
taxes, those certificates to be tax exempt.

The other proposal was that they could take
out insurance payable to the United States
and that insurance would be tax exempt, and
both of those have been eliminated.

I think today they will vote tentatively

on the surtax schedules on individual income
taxes and excess profits taxes. They are
back now talking more definitely in terms

of three and a half billion dollars.

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-3H.M.Jr:

Is the story in the Wall Street Journal
fairly accurate?

Sullivan:

I didn't see it, sir.

H.M.Jr:
Schwarz:

Well, take a look at it.
Here it is.

H.M.Jr:

While you are looking at it, I will talk to
Blough.

Sullivan:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Blough, I have got a memo here that you were

to collaborate with Mr. Brown to submit a

report of the skilled labor shortage and
the advisability of increasing Social Security
rates. Are you making any progress?

Blough:

Yes, we were in touch with Professor Brown
yesterday and the memo - I had hoped to have

it with me this morning, but it required some

revision. It will be ready any time today,

however.

H.M.Jr:

Can you have it for tomorrow's meeting?

Blough:

Yes, indeed, sir. All you wanted in that,

as I understand it, was the dismissal compensation side and not the skilled labor shortage
side. You said you had that in hand other-

wise.

H.M.Jr:

That is right.
Senator Harrison recommended Percy C. Young

for a position on the Processing Tax Board
on May 16.

Sullivan:

That is right, and Mr. Doughton recommended
somebody else. We have been sitting on the

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lid. I think we can continue to sit on it
until this bill is through. There are
vacancies there, but --

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Nothing will happen until the bill passes?
I don't think it will be wise, because we
will have to choose between them; and

incidentally, I talked with one of Senator
Harrison's best friends, and he said that
the operation was an agreeable surprise.
They expected to find something malignant

and they did not find it.

This story is partly true. I think there

is a likelihood they will go above this net
figure on the increase in corporate taxes,

because there is a feeling that the more
they get out of the corporate taxes, the

less they will have to take in excise taxes.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Sullivan:

No, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Roy?

Blough:

I just want to report progress on that those tabulations of return on invested
or on equity capital of corporations for
the excess profits material. I have one
additional table today, and there will be

some more coming along. I don't know if
you want it handed to you piecemeal or
whether you would rather wait.
H.M.Jr:

I don't think so. Kuhn is very much interested
and is working on it for me.

Is that all?
Sullivan:

Yes, sir.

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-5Bell:

Before they go, Mr. Secretary, you remember
some time ago I brought up the question of

the Social Security Board report. The
President wanted to submit it this month.
I think you ought to have about an hour's
conference with Roy and John and me, and

probably if you had some evening that might

be better. We could take it from eight-

thirty to nine-thirty.

H.M.Jr:

Next week?

Bell:

Yes. Roy ought to have a day or so in order
to get the points together.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Will you remind me again?

Bell:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Can they be excused now?

Bell:

Yes.

(Mr. Sullivan and Mr. Blough left the

conference.)
H.M.Jr:

Herbert, if you will stay behind, I want to

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Gaston:

There is one thing I should have mentioned
to you. Guy Helvering called me up yesterday,

ask you a couple of questions.

John being up on the Hill, to tell me that

they were compromising - they were settling,

rather, a case against a man named Kaplan and

you knew of him because of his interest in a

molasses concern that had alcohol connections
when you were over at Farm Credit.
H.M.Jr:

That is right.

6

-6Gaston:

He had some Canadian personal holding

companies and he is paying a million and
three quarters in back taxes.

H.M.Jr:

A million and three quarters?

Gaston:

I think it is a million and three quarters.
It is a large sum. It is over a million.
I have got a notation on my desk.

H.M.Jr:

You remember that?

Graves:

Very well.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to have the figures.

Gaston:

I will get you the details on it.

H.M.Jr:

I have an interest in knowing what it is.

Graves:

Incidentally, on that case they called on
me for our files about that old matter. You
remember, a special corporation was organized

to take over the capital of the molasses
interests. Corn Products was interested and

so on. I sent them --

H.M.Jr:

It was quite a smelly case.

Graves:

Yes, it was.

Gaston:

He said - I asked him if there was any present
Alcohol Tax interest and he said no, that he

was entirely out of that.
H.M.Jr:

Yes, if it comes to me, I would like to see

Gaston:

I will get a better memorandum.

H.M.Jr:

There are sort of collateral things that I

it.

was interested in. You (Graves) might take

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-7a look at it, too. You remember we never

quite understood that particular thing in

New York State, you remember.
Graves:

Yes. Well, it turned out all right. The

new corporation took over the business of
the capital corporation and it was kept
straight.

H.M.Jr:

It is a long time ago. Anything else?

Gaston:

No.

Graves:

Thirty-five and thirty-six, I think.

H.M.Jr:

Foley?

Foley:

The news commentator at seven-thirty and

again at eight-thirty, I am told, said that

the President was contemplating reorganizing
OPM and creating a Department of Supply, the
idea being discussed with Wallace, Henderson,

and Currie. There wasn't anything in the

paper about it, but it was on the radio this

morning.
Schwarz:

It is on the ticker this morning.

H.M.Jr:

A Department of Supply?

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Where do you suppose he gets those ideas

Foley:

I haven't any idea.

H.M.Jr:

Currie is up to something again, is he?

White:

Yes, Currie is always up to something.

Bell:

Aided and abetted.

from? (facetiously)

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-8Foley:

Zenith Radio, so far as we have been able

to find out, hasn't any contracts but has
a couple of sub-contracts with the Sperry

Gyroscope and Bendix Aviation Corporation

amounting to a couple of million dollars.

The President approved those anchorage
regulations yesterday and we had them put

in the Federal Register and sent them air

mail to our lawyer last night so he will
have them this morning to use in court. I

think that will take care of that suit.

H.M.Jr:

You say he has got Government contracts.

Foley:

No prime contracts, but there are a million

or more sub-contracts with Bendix and Sperry
Gyroscope.

H.M.Jr:

Did you give that story to Leach? Did he

Schwarz:

He wired it instead of air mailing it.

H.M.Jr:

Would you get a copy of today's Chicago

like it?

Daily News?
Schwarz:

I have asked them to watch for it. I don't

know how much advertising they get. They

might thin it down.
Foley:

If you have any more trouble with him,
the Navy might be interested in his boat.

Gaston:

Advertising doesn't affect the news policy

H.M.Jr:

of reputable modern newspapers, Chick.

You are talking about a publisher and also
a man who is a member of Mr. Roosevelt's

Cabinet.
Schwarz:

They tell me McDonald is no longer a Commander
of the Naval Reserve.

9

-9H.M.Jr:

What happened to him? Oh, McDonald is the
president.

Schwarz:

Of Zenith.

Foley:

He is the fellow that is giving us the trouble.

H.M.Jr:

Can the Navy take his yacht?

Foley:

Sure.

White:

And pay him for it. Maybe that is what he

wants.

Schwarz:

He is asking too high a price so far.

Gaston:

He has a grudge against the Coast Guard.
One time they made a spectacular rescue there,

and he considers himself sort of the big

boy of the yacht basin and he came bustling
aboard or tried to go aboard the Coast Guard
cutter to find out what they had done, and
the petty officer in charge saw no reason
why he should let him aboard or tell him any-

thing about it and he told him, "I am a

Captain of the Reserves in the United States

Navy and I demand to come aboard," and the

chief boatswain said, "That doesn't make any
difference to me, you haven't any business
aboard here," and sent him away.

H.M.Jr:

Who decides where his yacht is to be anchored?

Gaston:

We are clarifying in this amendment to the
regulations the power of the Captain of the
Port to classify ships and yachts according
to their draft and length and so on and
assign them different anchorage regulations
by classifications, and what his complaint
was, is that other craft were allowed to
anchor in this location so he should be allowed
to anchor, and it was discrimination against

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- 10 -

him for the Captain of the Port to tell

him to move, so now we are clarifying the

right of the Captain of the Port to say

that because of size and so on he wants
him to go somewhere else.
H.M.Jr:

If there is any more trouble, let me know;
and we will move him out another half mile.

Schwarz:

Four Coast Guard reserve boats have been able
to go in where he moved out of.
Dean Acheson called up last night and said

Foley:

that some of the people over in the State
Department were disturbed in connection with the
procedure that he had approved in connection
with the reporting of diplomatic funds by these
neutral countries under the order. They have
to tell us how much they need and what they
propose to spend it for, their payrolls and
the salaries and so forth.

Then after they spend it, if they want to

get more money, they have to account for the
expenditures and then explain how they are

going to spend the next allotment that they
request. What he wants, he thinks, is a
modification of that in so far as these
neutral countries are concerned, whereby
they would give us the names of the banks
where their bank accounts are and then be

permitted to use their funds without restrictions under the general license. Of

course, we would be able to watch those
accounts. We would be able to have daily
reports from the banks as to the withdrawals
from those accounts and then any time any-

thing looks suspicious, we could report that
to the State Department and they could call
in the Ambassador or Minister and put it up
to him.

I told him I thought that you would be disposed to go along with the State Department
on a matter of that kind.

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

Sure.

Foley:

He said that they were going to have a meeting
over there this morning, and he would call
back before they did anything.

H.M.Jr:

What else?

Foley:

Huntington Cairns went up to New York yesterday and say CBS and NBC, and they are now

willing to play without restriction the
Treasury song.

H.M.Jr:

Now there is something. Now I can knock off

the rest of the week after getting them to
put their - they can play that?

Foley:

Yes. They were a little afraid you might be
worried if you turned the radio on sometime

and heard just part of the song, but that

would be only because they didn't have time

to run the whole thing. (Laughter) They

don't want you to crack down on them just
on account of that.
H.M.Jr:

Tell Huntington, "Good work," will you?

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

That is something. (Kuhn) Call up Irving
and tell him.

Foley:

We asked Dean to find out from Phillips
whether or not the Italians had given equal

treatment to Giannini's bank in Italy in
connection with their retaliations against

American interests.
H.M.Jr:

Yes. In Italy?

Foley:

Yes. I thought it would be good to find that
out.

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- 12 H.M.Jr:

Me too.

Anything else?
Bell:
Foley:

They own a bank over there, don't they?
They own several. They have got a big bank

and it has branches. It has branches in
Trieste and Naples and Rome.

Bell:

Transamerica?

Foley:

Yes, owned by the holding company

H.M.Jr:

Maybe Johnny Hanes was right after all. You
just want to rub them out.

Foley:

I just want to see that he gets treated the

same way everybody else does. He has got
more immigrant accounts in that bank of
his-H.M.Jr:

So far, we have just gotten this far.

(Laughter) Everything we do is a rub-out so far.

Foley:

I have got a--

H.M.Jr:

Good work.

Foley:

I have got a personnel problem in the Bureau.
Jimmy Ryan, who is one of the assistant

chief counsels to Wenchel, is resigning to
take a position with a large Chicago firm.
What I would like to-H.M.Jr:

Not Zenith?

Foley:

No, this is a law firm.
What I would like to do is to take Ralph Dwan,
who is chief counsel for Customs, and move out

13

- 13 Dwan's assistant, Chambers, to be chief

counsel for Customs. I discussed it with
Bill Johnson and that is agreeable to him.
H.M.Jr:

How about Herbert?

Foley:

Well, I assume if it is all right with Bill,
it is all right with Herbert.
That is right. Bill is a pretty good lawyer.

Gaston:

H.M.Jr:

It means nothing to me.

Foley:

I believe it will strengthen the Bureau a
little
bit.

H.M.Jr:

Clear it with Norman.
Anything else? No more rub-outs?

Foley:

No more rub-outs.

H.M.Jr:

Or rub-downs?
George?

Haas:

I have got a minor thing, Mr. Secretary,

that I thought ought to be brought to your
attention. You sent to Undersecretary Patterson
a copy of that industry report. Sometime back

his secretary called our office and said marked the report for attention, Mr. Lovett,
and the acknowledgment comes back now signed

by Lovett, Assistant Secretary of War for
Air, and I wondered if - originally he was

just an Assistant to Patterson, I take it,
direct to Lovett.

and I wondered if you - we could address it

H.M.Jr:

Sure. O.K.

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- 14 Haas:

And leave Patterson out completely?

H.M.Jr:

That is all right.

Cochran:

Stopford was by yesterday afternoon, and he
had the first draft of a memo on South
America that you mentioned when he was in

here. He decided to hold it until he gets

some replies from cables which he sent to his

people in Buenos Aires and Rio.
H.M.Jr:

I would like to see him myself.

Cochran:

All right. I will tell him to bring it in
as soon as he gets it.

Playfair asked to be remembered to you. He

is flying back today.

H.M.Jr:

Oh!

What else?

Did you (Kuhn) take care of my Mrs.?
Kuhn:

All taken care of this morning.

H.M.Jr:

Gone back up, has it?

Kuhn:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

In the not toodistant future, Jake, I will
talk to you. I will tell you what I had in
my mind a little after I get straightened
out.

Is the baby all right?
Odegarde:

Fine.

H.M.Jr:

Can't we take a picture of that baby and use

it in--

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- 15 Odegarde:

H.M.Jr:

Suits me.

For Defense Bonds or something? I think every-

body would want to buy-Odegarde:

Suits me.

H.M.Jr:

I will get in touch with you during the day.

Schwarz:

I assume you have seen page four of the

New York Times.
H.M.Jr:

Yes. I was just struck dumb.

Schwarz:

Maestre, the president of that company is the

leading spirit, I understand. I have checked.

H.M.Jr:

Maestre, Bob Maestre?

Schwarz:

M-a-e-s-t-r-e. It is not Bob, I think. He
is New Orleans, isn't he?

H.M.Jr:

Mayor of New Orleans.

Schwarz:

This is the St. Louis Maestre.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to know how come. I think you

will find the director of it is Mr. Darcy
of the Darcy Advertising Agency.

It is a full page advertisement by a St.

Louis bank in the New York Times saying,
"Uncle Sam is too modest. If
Graves:

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I have seen the advertisement.

But this is in the New York Times, a St.

Louis bank.
Graves:

H.M.Jr:

They are also advertising out of St. Louis.
That costs money, a full page ad in the New

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Gaston:

That is Darcy showing us that if he were
running the thing he could put some real

pep into it.
H.M.Jr:

That is what I thought.

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

That was my reaction, that that was Darcy.

Is that page in here? Get it.
You (Graves) haven't seen it, have you?
Graves:

I haven't seen it in the New York Times, but
I have seen it elsewhere.

Schwarz:

I can get it photostated down to a handier
size.

H.M.Jr:

Send it around.

Graves:

I told you once that such advertisements had
been put in the papers by more than fifteen

hundred banks during May, and I have the

collection. It includes this one among many

others.
H.M.Jr:

Anything else, Chick?

Schwarz:

That is all, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Harry?

White:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

I will get in touch with you later on. Are
you going out this morning to any meetings?
Will you be out of the Treasury today, this

morning?

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- 17 White:

No, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Because I have got to talk to you about this
thing of - the request of Ambassador Winant.

White:

Yes. You also wanted to talk about a couple
of other things.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Harold?

Graves:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Bell?

Bell:

We have gotten several cables from Fox.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Bell:

And in each one he seems to be more worried
about Mr. Rogers.

H.M.Jr:

So I see.

Bell:

The last one he sent got into the economic
studies of China and also about a confidential secretary for him.
Now, as to Rogers, we think he ought to keep

his shirt on and keep out of that mess because that is a matter for the British and

Chinese Governments, and we think it is more

important that he start the board and get
busy there than to start this economic study,
and we would like to send him a cable along

these lines. Want me to read it? Harry
hasn't seen it, but Merle and I just finished
it as we came in.

H.M.Jr:

Talk it over with Harry.

Bell:

This is part of Harry's draft. We expanded
it, Harry, to take in the cable we got last

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H.M.Jr:

Would you mind talking with Harry first?

Bell:

No. I should think that he ought to keep
out of that Rogers mess.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know. What else?

Bell:

Congressman Hebert, who introduced the bill
to provide for staggered paydays, wrote you

a letter yesterday criticizing the Treasury
for not answering his letter of May 28 addressed to Mr. Bartelt and for not giving
him the information that he asked for. He
said he wanted to know if it was the policy
of the Treasury that Congressmen should get
their information from the newspapers.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Bell:

Well, he had written Bob Jackson asking him

if it was legal for the departments to

change the present paydays' scheme or

was it necessary to have legislation. Bob
wrote back and told him that there was no
legislation needed, that it was an Executive matter and could be taken care of, and
he says, "As to the history of why the pay-

days are now the fifteenth and the thirtieth,

you would have to go to the Treasury, and
I suggest you write Bartelt, Commissioner
of Accounts.

Hebert writes Bartelt on the twenty-eighth
and said, "I am enclosing a letter from
Jackson which is self-explanatory, and I
should be glad to have your comments on

this matter." It was acknowledged on June 2.

It came in on Saturday and was acknowledged

on Monday, the second. We told him that we

would study it and give him the information,

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paydays.

We have acknowledged it this morning. I

have got a letter here for your signature
acknowledging his letter and telling him
why he didn't get a reply earlier and telling him that Treasury did not give any out any press notice whatever. It was
given out at the White House.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Bell:

That is all.
see

Thompson:

Woodside how has word from the factory that
your new Cadillac will reach Washington
Saturday.

H.M.Jr:

It will get here Saturday?

Thompson:

It will probably take a couple of days to
get it all tuned up.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Thompson:

I have some Stabilization cables.

H.M.Jr:

All right, ask Stephens.

20

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 18, 1941
Customer's
TO

Secretary Morgentjuft

FROM

Mr. Cochran

For

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
At 5 p.m. yesterday afternoon Mr. Stopford, Financial Counselor of the
British Embassy, called on me. He showed me draft notes which he had prepared

upon Axis funds passing through or situated in Latin America. It will be recalled
that when the Secretary had him in to meet with our Group on last Monday morning
where the working of the new freezing regulations was discussed, the Secretary
had invited Mr. Stopford to give any comment. Mr. Stopford had raised the question

as to possible leaks in Latin America which might warrant further extension of the

Control. The Secretary had suggested that Mr. Stopford prepare a memorandum on this
point.

Mr. Stopford told me yesterday evening that his notes were only preliminary
and that he had cabled his colleagues in Buenos Aires and Rio de Janeiro requesting
concrete information from them to support his memorandum. He asked, therefore, if
he might delay the submission of the memorandum until he had this supporting information.

At the Staff Meeting this morning I reported the foregoing to the Secretary.
He asked that the memorandum be given directly to him whenever I may receive it.

Upon coming out of the meeting, I telephoned Mr. Stopford. I told him that I had
reported to the Secretary upon our conversation of last night, and that the Secretary desired that I submit directly to him Mr. Stopford's memorandum as soon as
it is received. Mr. Stopford promised to pursue its preparation actively.

sang.

21

June 18, 1941
11:43 a.m.

HMJr:

Oscar

What's on your mind?

Cox:

On the British finances thing

HMJr:

Yeah.

v:

All the earmarks are that the
financial fellows haven't been
following what their supply

people are doing and it becomes
fairly apparent from the commodity
statements which you have George

Haas get out and I sent you sort

of a long winded note on it this
morning.

HMJr:

Well, Oscar, if you have time
I'd much rather talk to you
about it because I'm getting

awfully restless about it.

C:

HMJr:

C:

Well, so am I, because the thing
Well, what are you doing between
now and 1 'clock?

Well, I got a meeting on this
gun thing,
which is a part of a rescue procedure.

HMJr:

Oh.

C:

And a

HMJr:

What time is that meeting?

C:

HMJr:

Well, it's on now and probably
wont be finished until 1 o' clock.

oh, well.....

22

-C:

Well, could I come after
lunch?

HMJr:
C:

No, I'm free at three.
Oh, unfortunately I got a
meeting on this price legislation
up on the Hill. Why don't I

check with Mrs. Klotz and see if
1 can make a date in the very near

future. We're talking to the British
at 12 on this - on the extent to

which we can rescue them on contracts
that have been entered into already.
HMJr:

Well, when - you mean that - let

C:

Well, I think - I think we'll have

HMJr:

C:

me settle it this way - when will
the - Bell told me that you would it yee or no today.
an answer on a good part of it
today after this 12 o' clock meeting.
And you say that the supply people
are not up on it?

No, they have been placing orders

just as one typical illustration,

they've been placing orders for
steel using up good dollars when
there isn't any excuse in the world
for it. They should have placed it
under Lend-Lease and I think Phillips

is got to pull the reins on his
supply people.

HMJr:

Well, let me - I get booked up.

C:

That'11 be fine.

HMJr:

What?

C:

That'11 be fine.

How about 11:30 tomorrow?

23

HMJr:

11:30 tomorrow.

C:

All right.

HMJr:

And then by that time, you
will have a yes or no.

C:

I think so.

HMJr:

What?

C:

I think we ought to come close
to one.

HMJr:

Well, I'm getting very restless.

C:

Well, I think you're right, I
am too.

HMJr:

All right.

C:

Goodbye.

HMJr:

Thank you. Goodbye.

24
June 18, 1941
2:35 p.m.

Arthur
Purvis:
HMJr:
P:

HMJr:

opinions here.

Oh, really.

In a big way. That's the
very first time.
Well, that's nice of you to
say that. I thought you might
like to read it.

P:

I enjoyed it immensely.

HMJr:

I enjoyed reading the newspaper you let me have.

P:

(Laughs)

HMJr:

And I thought you did an
excellent job in Montreal.

P:

Well, you were very nice.
Arthur, are you very busy
this afternoon?

HMJr:

P:

We've got a Council meeting,
Henry.

HMJr:

Oh.

P:

And Byrnes is coming over

at 5. If there 18 anything,
I could possibly rearrange

Byrnes.
HMJr:

Well, I mean you're busy

P:

The Council meeting should

from when to when?

be over in about an hour and

a half - by about four.

-2HMJr:

No, I'd have to be

P:

Something before that?

HMJr:

Well, I happen to be free
around three o' clock and

I'm - I don't want - I this whole business of Keyne's
and all that, I want to talk
to you about it, particularly

a letter to Hopkins which
really cuts across you.
P:

Yes. Well, a - I saw A letter
when I got back this morning I got a copy of that letter and
noted - I mean I read it with

that little feeling myself that
he'd moved out a bit. I'd like
to have that talk - it'e just

that this is a Council Wednesday

and we have this time some new

HMJr:

people coming in to sit withous.
Well, you keep - just let me

think - I tell you what we

might do
P:

Shall I ring you when I get out

and then see what suits you?
HMJr:

Well, I think we better put it
off and let me just see how - it was just
that I got a break today.

P:

Yes.

HMJr:

And tnis thing bothers me.

P:

Yes, quite.

HMJr:

Well, your Council meeting be

P:

over when?

About 4 o'clock, perhaps 4:15.
Then Byrnes 18 coming at 5
because he's worried over Lease-

Lend matters.
HMJr:

Oh.

25

26

-3P:

HMJr:

It'11 be between half an hour
and three quarters of an hour
with nim I would imagine, normally.
Why don't we - why couldn't we

start fresh in the morning?

P:

Yes.

HMJr:

What?

P:

I'a love to. Any time you say.

HMJr:

Well,

P:

You don't walk down, I suppose,

do you?
HMJr:

Well, I leave terribly early..

P:

Yes, what time?

HMJr:

Well, I leave the house around oh, 8:30.

P:

Well, would you like me to join
you? Do you walk down or do
you ride down?

HMJr:

I walk part of one way.

P:

Yes.

HMJr:

Is that too early?

P:

Not a bit.

HMJr:

Surely?

P:

Not a bit, I'11 be there at
8:30 11 that suits you.

HMJr:

Fine.

P:

I'd love it.

HMJr:

Let's do it that way.

P:

Good, I'11 be there at 5:30.

HMJr:

Thank you.

27
June 18, 1941
2:46 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Mellett.

HMJr:

Hello.

Lowell

Mellett:

Hello, Henry.

HMJr:

Hello, Lowell.

M:

I got a call from our Director

and Conductor this morning that
HMJr:

Who?

M:

Our State Director.

HMJr:

Yeah.

M:

That the Louisville bankers and

the Bankers Association of Kentucky
are upset because they can't get

a list of registered aliens, that

they are very fearful that they
are passing out assets to aliens
that shouldn't have them. They
have no list to check against,

said they tried to get it at
Cincinnati district office of the
Immigration and Naturalization

Bureau, but were refused the list
and then I got a wire from him
suggesting that thbeedistrict
Directors be authorized to release
such lists, to Postmasters in the
various states.
HMJr:

Uh huh.

M:

With authority to permit inspection

by interested banks and other agencies

holding alien assets, etc.
HMJr:

Yeah.

28
2-

Well, I don't know whether it
is a good idea or not, sounds
reasonable on the face of it
but any case, if it could somebody
should speak to the Bureau here.
I presume that would be your office.

M:

HMJr:

Aliens?

M:

Yeah.

HMJr:

No.

M:

Frozen assets.

HMJr:

Well, I tell you, there will be

M:

Yes, all right.

HMJr:

Is that quick enough?

M:

Well, all I know is that the

a meeting in 10 minutes in Foley's
office with Frank Shea and Dean
Acheson and I'11 get this word to
them and they can take it up at
their meeting at 3.

Bankers out there are afraid
that aliens are drawing out funds
that you wouldn't want drawn out.

HMJr:

Well

M:

And they think they need a list
of aliens to check against.

HMJr:

I don't know, but I'11 put it up

to this crowd within the next ten

minutes.
M:

All right, fine. Then the acts would

HMJr:

Well, of course, Shea is there for

have to be taken by the Bureau of
Naturalization and Immigration.

Justice and I'11 tell them to let
you know.

29

-3C:

Well, all they need to do to
take action on it and do it
if they can - if they would

let me know 80 I can get word
to those Kentucky bankers

HMJr:

Sure. Thank you for bringing

C:

Right-o

HMJr:

Thank you.

it to my attention.

30
June 18, 1941
4:00 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Colonel Donovan left on the
3:30 plane for New York. His
Secretary, Mr. Mahar, is on
the line.

HMJr:

All right, please.

HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Go ahead.

Mr.

Mahar:

Yes, Mr. Morgenthau.

HMJr:

I've been expecting to hear
from Colonel Donovan.

M:

Oh, you have?

HMJr:

Yes.

M:

Well, I guess he must have

forgot about it today while

he was here.
HMJr:
M:

Well.

I'm sure he forgot about it.

He was at the White House.
HMJr:

M:

I know, he was to let me know
just as soon - after he'd seen
the President.

I see. Well, I know he must
have forgot about it because

I was with him all the time
and almost till the time he

got on the plane.

31

-2HMJr:

Well, would you get word to

him that I would appreciate I've asked something of him
and I'd like to have a yes
or no.

M:

Yes, all right. Now, where

can I reach you this evening,

Mr. Morgenthau?
HMJr:
M:

HMJr:

Well, I'11 be home.
You will. And that number?

No, he can call me through
the Treasury.

M:

All right, thank you very much.

HMJr:

But, I would like to hear

M:

from him.

I'll be glad to get in touch

with him and
HMJr:

Tell him I'd like - I really

would like to have a yes or
no on the proposition I put up
to him.

M:

Yes, I'11 be sure to tell him.

HMJr:

Thank you.

M:

All right.

32

June 18, 1941.
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY'S FILES:

A meeting relative to the administration of Executive

Order 8389, as amended, was held in Mr. Foley's office at
3 p.m., June 18, 1941, attended from time to time by the
following:

Messrs. Foley, Gaston, Cochran, Viner, Bernstein, Pehle,
Coe, and Aikin for the Treasury, Messrs. Acheson and Luthringer
for State, Messrs. Shea and Kreiger for Justice.

After Mr. Pehle read a report appearing in today's Boston
Daily Globe, it was decided that Mr. Pitman of the Boston Federal
should contact the newspaper, correcting the misstatements, par-

ticularly with regard to the position of aliens in respect to

General License 42 and in connection with remittances authorized
under General Licenses 32 and 33. Mr. Aikin immediately telephoned Mr. Pitman requesting him to contact the newspaper.

The problem of coordinating F.B.I. activities with those

of the Treasury was again brought up. Mr. Shea mentioned that
there were active files on 8,000 names of those suspected of
subversive activities or sabotage. He thought considerable du-

plication of effort would result unless some clear delineation

of work was established beforehand. He was particularly anxious
that the Treasury take no special freezing action on an account
before checking with the F.B.I. in order that there would be no
interference with a good source of information. Mr. Foley assured him that the Treasury would fully cooperate, and Mr. Pehle
stated that the Treasury had and would continue to consult with
the F.B.I. before giving Federal Reserve banks instructions to
block particular accounts. Mr. Pehle gave Mr. Shea a list of the

names concerning which telegrams had already been despatched to

the various Federal Reserve banks. After Mr. Foley had admitted
that there would be some overlapping in the activities of both
the F.B.I. and the Treasury Department agencies, he repeated his
remark of the previous meeting that before an effective under-

standing could be reached, a memorandum should be submitted out-

lining a tentative delineation of activities. Mr. Shea asked

33
2-

about Mr. Pehle's press interview which indicated the Treasury
Department was setting up a large staff for investigatory work,
questioning the advisability of this until some workable arrangement between the F.B.I. and the Treasury had been developed. In
fact, Mr. Shea said he thought this was the very purpose for which
he had been called into the conference. While agreeing that this
was the case, Mr. Foley emphatically stated that the Treasury
Department did not intend to suspend their activities in mid-air
while haggling over procedure. Messrs. Acheson and Gaston

remarked that the investigatory activities of the Treasury

Department did not concern themselves with criminal violations

per se, sabotage, and subversive activities, which are fields
clearly covered by the Department of Justice. The discussion

closed with Mr. Foley again emphasizing the importance of having
a memorandum outlining the various aspects of the problem.
Mr. Foley read a message from Louisville concerning the

availability for blocking purposes of the Department of Justice

alien registration lists. After considerable discussion during

which Mr. Bernstein read an article appearing in today's
New York Herald Tribune concerning "lists", it was agreed that

alien registration lists should not be circularized because,

as Mr. Gaston correctly pointed out, a large number of the
names on them would not be those of "nationals" within the mean-

ing of the Executive Order. The Treasury is not yet in a
position to publish a black list, Mr. Bernstein pointed out,

and in any case word would soon get around whose accounts ought

to be blocked. Mr. Pehle mentioned that his office had also

received a query from the Atlanta Federal concerning the

Department of Justice alien registration lists. He believed

that immigration records would be a more effective source of
information for the Treasury Department.

In response to Mr. Acheson's query, Mr. Bernstein
explained why the date of June 17, 1940, had been used in
General License 42. From that date on, there had been a

flood of refugees pouring into this country. Many of these

probably have Axis connections; accordingly, the date of the
collapse of France was chosen.

34

-3Mr. Cochran asked whether there had been a complete blocking
of the accounts of those whose names had been sent to the various
Federal Reserve banks on June 15, and Mr. Bernstein replied that
generally this was the case but that an attempt was being made
to see that no injustices were done.

Mr. Cochran then said that he had been asked by
Mr. Nishyama, a Japanese consular official, whether consulate
and diplomatic officials were exempted from the necessity of

reporting assets. Mr. Bernstein pointed out that the report
requirement is both plenary and applicable to all. In the past,
the Treasury Department has not had adequate reports but the

report problem is now a big one, the various aspects of which,

in Mr. Bernstein's opinion, will have to be carefully studied

by the State Department. Mr. Pehle suggested a compromise:

diplomatic and consular officials could be relieved of reporting their assets when these are held by banks, since there is
a burden on the latter to report. Diplomatic and consular

officials might be required only to report those assets held

other than in banks. Until the State Department has had an
opportunity to explore the various aspects of this problem,
it must be held in abeyance. Mr. Acheson concurred, mentioning that consular and diplomatic officials might possibly be
exempted from the report requirements so far as their personal
assets were concerned.

Mr. Cochran inquired whether there was any reason at this
time for Federal income tax investigation of Japanese corpora-

tions. Mr. Foley replied that he did not know of any.

Discussion then turned to the proposed sale by the
Standard Oil Company of its Hungarian properties to one of the

I. G. Farben Industrie groups. It was agreed that this was a

State Department problem and Dr. Viner called attention to the
fact that Germany was still observing some sort of a commercial
code in their efforts to purchase European subsidiaries of
American corporations. Mr. Acheson explained the circumstances
surrounding the sale of the International Telephone and
Telegraph Rumanian properties, stating that at the time this

was consummated "Rumania and the war were a long ways off".

35

-4He remarked that this company had approached the State

Department recently regarding the sale of its Spanish interests,
but the State Department had objected in view of the changed
situation. Mr. Bernstein stated that while the sale of these
foreign properties by American corporations might appear super-

ficially to be sound, it resolved itself into an opportunity

by an individual concern to get some dollars, but that as far
as this Government was concerned, effective steps have been

taken to assure that in any case these dollars would not otherwise accrue to Germany to prosecute the war, and furthermore,
the claims of other American creditors' to the blocked dollars
must be considered. Dr. Viner observed that while American
corporations may have written off these foreign properties,
the United States Government had not.

Mr. Pehle said that Mr. Stopford had called regarding a
telegram received from the Bank of England in response to an
inquiry about funds held in this country for high German
officials. Reference was made to an article written some
time ago by H. R. Knickerbocker. The Bank of England disclaimed definite knowledge of large deposits belonging to
German officials, but suggested as a "lead", Isadore Lazarus,
alias Lee Lane, presently an inmate of the Atlanta penitentiary
on a passport violation charge.
Mr. Acheson asked whether any assurances had been received

from foreign governments, and Mr. Pehle replied that there had
been none. He did refer again to the conference which Foreign
Funds Control had had with the Swedes. Mr. Bernstein stated
that although general licenses had been drafted, none had yet
been issued.

Mr. Pehle said that Mr. Stopford had been in to see him
to discuss the problem of currency and securities held up by
the British authorities in Bermuda. Since the British Government was not sure of its position, steps were being taken to

clarify it in an official and public release. The British

seem to be concerned lest their actions cast reflections on the
efficacy of the Treasury's control.

36

-5Mr. Foley read a telegram advising that there had been a
sizeable run on the Banco de Napoli, Chicago, whose officials
were "leaning over backward" to comply with the freezing Order.
Before paying depositors, the Banco de Napoli is demanding

production of citizenship papers.

37

June 18, 1941

listed
AWB

Memorandum From the Comptroller

To the Under Secretary
Mr. Oberwortmann, our Chief Examiner in Chicago,

telephoned this morning and said that there is a run of
sizable proportions this morning on the Banco di Napoli
Trust Company of Chicago. I have passed this information
along to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and to
the Foreign Funds Control. From a perusal of the report of
examination of the bank made by the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation, it would appear that they are in extremely
liquid condition and would be able to meet any run.
Our examiners have been in the institution since
last Saturday afternoon, but they find that the management
of the bank is leaning over backwards to prevent any unauthorized transactions taking place. They have very few
commercial accounts, nearly all of their accounts being
savings in character. The bank is requiring production of
citizenship papers or equivalent proof before permitting
withdrawals from savings accounts. Mr. Oberwortmann says

that he really feels that there is no necessity for our

examiners to be in the bank at all, and that there might

be some advantages to withdrawing them - the bank for

instance could then say to disturbed depositors, "There

isn't even an examiner in the bank." I believe there has
been less cooperation on the part of the Illinois State
Banking Department than is the case in New York.

Since starting this memorandum I have talked to
Mr. Crowley who informs me that he has talked to his Chief
Examiner in Chicago who informs him that in his opinion

the run will not amount to much and will quickly subside,
and that the bank is in good position to take care of any
situation that may arise.

Preston Delano

38
4

Estate tax rate Schedule A compared

with present estate tax rates

Present rates 1
Cumulative
Bracket rate
tax on higher
tax on higher:
(percent)

(percent)

of dollars)
0

5

10 -

5

10
20

3

9

20

30

30

40

15

40

50

18

50

60

21

60

100

23

100

250

25

250

500

27

500 -

750

750 - 1,000
1,000 - 1,250
1,250 - 1,500
1,500 - 2,000
2,000 - 2,500
2,500 - 3,000
3,000 - 3,500
3,500 - 4,000
4,000 - 5,000
5,000 - 6,000
6,000 - 7,000
7,000 - 8,000
8,000 - 9,000
9,000 - 10,000
10,000 - 20,000
20,000 - 50,000

Over 50,000

150

$

29
31

33
35
38
41

44
47
50

53
56
59
61

63
65
67
69

2

450

1.

12

amount

amount

:

(in thousands

:

specific exemption: Bracket rate

:

Schedule A 1
Cumulative

:

Net estate after :

1,350
2,550
4,050
5,850
7,950
17,150
54,650
122,150
194,650
272,150
354,650
442,150
632,150
837,150

1,057,150
1,292,150
1,542,150
2,072,150
2,632,150
3,222,150
3,832,150
4,462,150
5,112,150
11,812,150
32,512,150

70

-

Treasury Department, Division of Tex Research

1 Exclusive of temporary defense tax.

100

$

200

2

600

4

35

1,200
2,000
3,000
4,200
9,600
36,600
89,600
151,600
222,600
302,600
382,600
557,600

38

747,600

6

8

10

12

12 14
17 20
20 23
23 26
26 29
32
32

41

44
47

50 53
56
59
61

63
65

67
69

70

952,600

1,172,600
1,407,600
1,922,600
2,482,600
3,072,600
3,682,600
4,312,600
4,962,600
11,662,600
32,362,600
-

June 18, 1941

39 4

Comparison of Federal estate tax (before allowance of credit
for State donth taxes) under present rates and Schedule A
upon net estates (before exemption) of selected sizes 1
:

220 $

$

$

2,200
4,620
21,660
63,780
112,340
167,340
228,780
588,000

1,485
4,455
8,745
35,245
92,105
152,105
215,245
282,405
668,685

1,499,640
2,655,140
5,323,500
12,532,700
27,391,820
42,361,380
72,521,380

1,646,325
2,819,645
5,488,005
12,697,305
27,556,325
42,525,885
72,685,885

660

60
80

100
200

400
600
800

1,000
2,000
4,000
6,000
10,000
20,000
40,000
60,000
100,000

495

:

50

:Present: Schodule A

Increase in tax

:

(000)

Effective rates

Amount

law

0.4%
1.1
2.8

4.6
10.8
15.9
18.7
20.9
22.9
29.4
37.5
44.3

53.2
62.7
68.5
70.6
72.5

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

:

Amount of tex 2/
Net estate
before exemption: Present law Schedule A

Percent

275

125.0%

2.5

825

5.6

2,255
4,125
13,585
28,325
39,765
47,905
53,625
80,685
146,685
164,505
164,505
164,505
164,505
164,505
164,505

125.0
102.5
89.3
62.7
44.4

1.0%

8.7

17.6
23.0
25.4
26.9
28.2
33.4
41.2
47.0
54.9
63.5
68.9
70.9
72.7

$

35.4
28.6
23.4
13.7
9.8
6.2
3.1

1.3
0.6
0.4

0.2

June 18, 1941

Under Schedule A, the attached rate schedule is substituted for the present schedule. In all the comoutations, the specific exemption is
$40,000 and the credit for State death trx is assumed to be 80 percent
of the trx immosed under the 1926 Act. The defense tax is 10 percent of
the Federal tax after allowence of the credit for State death taxes.

1
2

Includes defense tax.

40

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

June 18, 1941.

In re: Mail Alluding to the Speech at Anherst Last Saturday.
Up to the last mail today (Wednesday) 26 letters had been received.
One was highly laudatory (from a personal friend and sent down-

stairs.); 1 started with congratulations but was lukewarm and critical
of a number of the statements; 24 were violently antagonistic, containing phrases such as -- "Your recent talk smacked of the typical come-on
variety of pro-British propaganda". "How did you dare talk to the

Amherst College Alumni the way you did?" "Only war can cover up the

spending orgy in Washington". "We are willing to die on our feet, but
not to defend international bankers." "We of the 83 percent of Americans
opposed to involvement in this war are as determined to keep out of it as
you 17 percenters are to get us in. No sale, Mr. Morgenthau.
One of the more thoughtful letters was from a Philadelphia Dentist,
a Catholic who wrote with some perplexity and unhappiness over the con-

flict between the stand of the Catholic Church in this country and the
Administration policy. "Our spiritual Superiors in the United States

have denounced our meddling in foreign affairs as immoral and un-American.
Today our Pastor, former secretary to the Papal representative told us,
'We cannot police the world because God has not delegated us as such.

This propaganda is dishonest and only the ignorant believe it'." The
writer agrees with his Church Superiors and not with the Secretary's
talk, which he calls "very bad propaganda and morally wrong"
"You can force our sons into the conflict but our Catholic moral training is against you".
I am sending the letters and postal cards to Mr. Kuhn as I think
he would like to see them all, but shall keep them together and can
send you either samples or the entire group if you wish to see them.

performanch

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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 18, 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I find that:
(1) The defense of the United Kingdom is vital to
the defense of the United States;
(2) Sections 4 and 7 of the Act of March 11, 1941
have been complied with by the necessary agreement on the part
of His Majesty's Government in the United Fingdom;

(3) It would be in the interests of our national
defense to transfer the defense articles set fort in the annexed schedule.

I therefore authorize you to make the transfer to
His Wajesty's Government in the United Kingdom of the defense

articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I should appreciate it if you would arrange with the
Chairman of the British Supply Council in North America for
the time, method, and other details of the disposition.
Very sincerely yours,

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

DIRIOTIVE NO D-76-T

42

Defense Articles Authorised
for Transfer to the limited Kingdom
by the Secretary of the Treasury

Articles

Requisition
Number

513

Quantity
50

Description

Worthington air oooled diesel driven air
compressors and 12 months supply of spare
parts

529

181941

36

Caterpillar tractors

18

Graders and spare parts

43
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 18, 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I find that:
(1) The defense of the United Kingdom is vital to
the defense of the United States;
(2) Sections 4 and 7 of the Act of March 11, 1941
have been complied with by the necessary agreement on the part
of His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom;

(3) It would be in the interests of our national
defense to transfer the defense articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I therefore authorize you to make the transfer to
His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of the defense

articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I should appreciate it if you would arrange with the
Chairman of the British Supply Council in North America for
the time, method, and other details of the disposition.
Very sincerely yours,

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

- - air D-76-T
44

for to

Defense Articles Authorised

Transfer the United Kingdom

by the Secretary of the Treasury

Articles

Requisition
Number

513

Quantity

50

Description

Worthington air oooled diesel driven air
compressors and 12 months supply of spare
parts

529

36

18

181941

Caterpillar tractors
Graders and spare parts

45
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 18, 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I find that:
(1) The defense of the United Kingdom is vital to
the defense of the United States;
(2) Sections 4 and 7 of the Act of March 11, 1941
have been complied with by the necessary agreement on the part
of His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom;

(3) It would be in the interests of our national
defense to transfer the defense articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I therefore authorize you to make the transfer to
His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of the defense

articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I should appreciate it if you would arrange with the
Chairman of the British Supply Council in North America for
the time, method, and other details of the disposition.
Very sincerely yours,

Mucsender
The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

NO D-76-T

46

Defense Articles Authorised
for Transfer to the United Kingdom
by the Secretary of the Treasury

Articles

Requisition
Number

513

Quantity
50

Description

Worthington air oooled diesel driven air
compressors and 12 months supply of spare
parts

529

JUN 181941

36

Caterpillar tractors

18

Graders and spare parts

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 18, 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I find that:
(1) The defense of the United Kingdom is vital to
the defense of the United States;
(2) Sections 4 and 7 of the Act of March 11, 1941
have been complied with by the necessary agreement on the part
of His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom;

(3) It would be in the interests of our national
defense to transfer the defense articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I therefore authorize you to make the transfer to
His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom of the defense

articles set forth in the annexed schedule.

I should appreciate it if you would arrange with the
Chairman of the British Supply Council in North America for
the time, method, and other details of the disposition.
Very sincerely yours,

Sample Aussends
The Honorable

l'he Secretary of the Treasury

TRANSFER DIRECTIVE NO.P-7A-F

Defense Articles Authorised
for Transfer to the United Kingdom
by the Secretary of the Treasury

Articles
Description

Quantity

812

50

Worthington air oooled diesel driven air
compressors and 12 months supply of spare
parts

36

18

Caterpillar tractors

Graders and spare parts

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June 18, 1941

TO THE SECRETARY:

Feloy. White, Cochrea and I have been over

Mr. Jenes' re-traft of Mr. Cechuma's a of

the conference hold in your office ea June 10, 1941,
at which time you advised Mr. Jenes of your future
relations with Sir Edward Peacoak concerning the sale

of British dollar assets in this country. We have

agreed to Mr. Jones' revrite of Cochran's nonorendum
except the last sentence. Mr. Jones saids
"Mr. Jones agreed to inform the Treasury

of the results of any transactions upon
which he passes, and stated that his
purpose was, as far as practicable, to
make RFC loans available to the British
to enable them to meet their commitments

to Secretary in parise for

American supplies.

We suggest that the part underlined in this quotation
be eliminated; otherwise 11 is O.K.
You told Jenes at the conference that day that

you would initial a copy of this a and that he
should also initial a copy for the files. I would

appreciate 18, therefore, if you would initial the
original and one carbon, and I will see that Mr. Jones

initials and gets the copy for his file.

DWB:BLE

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June 10. 1941
Secretary Morgeathes
Mr. Cochrea

AB 11 o'slook this warning the Secretary of the Treasury received the
Secretary of Commerce. Nesers. Bell, Velay, White and Cechrea were present.

Mr. Morgenthau told No. Jenee that he is receiving Sir Edward Peacock this
afternoon. He added that he would like to speak to Sir Edward Pesseek along the

following lises. New that Mr. Jease has received the required legislation from

Congress, the British representatives should approach Mr. Jenes directly is any
instance where they desire to obtain a leas against British direct investments is
the United States. OF where British over American certerations wish to berrow for
the purpose of making funds available to the British Government. The responsibility to
for passing on such transactions would be that of Mr. Jenes. Mr. Jenes agreed
accept this responsibility with the understanding that be be free to all upon the isSecretary of the Treasury and members of his staff for support. assistance and

formation. with a view to obtaining for the Dritish, or British companies, the
largest possible amount of dollar lease in each situation. Mr. Morgenthes and
Mr. Jenee agreed that their basic desire was to see that the British de not have
to secrifiee their investments is this country through foread sales, OF fail to
obtain the mexicon amount of dollars through lease to British ouned American panice, or upon the security of British owned American investments, to meet their
consisments is this country.

The foregoing outline of the approach to SirEdvard Femoeek was agreed upon by

two Secretaries. Mr. Mergeathes stressed the point that be could not look

the late every transaction which the British proposed to enter. Unloos seas system such
as the above is adopted. there would be chance for confusing triangular converse-

tions such as took place this past week in the case of Coates thread deal.

of

Mr. Mergeathes considers 10 undesirable for the British to approach consummities last

a deal with private bankore and then come to the Treasury in a rush at the

state to obtain approval of the Secretary to the transmetion under which reference. he has sug- He

believes that British interests would best be served by the plan the assistance
gested. The point was made that the Secretary
of holdings
the Treasury.
the various
of thewith British is the
Lead-Lease Bill was

United of the British, States at made the known time the to Congress under consideration. is the manner most IS is likely now

the duty of the British themselves to handle these assets is this country.
to procure a seximum of dollar exchange to pay for their commitments upon

Mr. Jenes agreed to inform the Treasury of the results of any practicable. transactions to make

which he passes, and stated that his purpose was. as far as commitments for
RFO lease available to the British to eaable then to most their
American supplies.

D.W.B

HMC11ap-6/17/41

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6/18/41

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THE BRITISH SUPPLY COUNCIL IN NORTH AMERICA
Box 680
TELEPHONE REPUBLIC 7860

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN STATION

WASHINGTON D. C.

June 18th1941

Mr Secretary Morgenthau,

The Treesury,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr Morgenthau,

For some five weeks, as you know, we have been spending much

time, primarily in connection with your undertsking to Sir F. Phillips,
on the question what old commitments we ca.: be relieved of, consistently

it the statement code by the Director of the Budget. And at last
it looks as if some sort of finality would be reached on this, one way
or the other.

Meanchile time ;asses by (though usefully and to my great
advantage in many ways), and it seemed to me advisable to attempt to

crystallise the position on the other line of approach which you told
.10 concerned Mr Hopkins primarily, namely relief by additional lease-

lending in respect of entirely new consitments. I have, therefore,
sent him a letter of which I enclose a copy; and I hope you will feel
that the lines of approach I seek to open up are suitable and not
unpromising.

Some time I should much appreciate a talk with you on the
"consideration" question, about which formal negotiations have now
been initiated, though they have not yet reached any degree of
definition.
Yours sincerely,

JMKeyns

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COPY

Harry Hopkins Esq.

June 17th,1941

The White House,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr Hopkins,

In the five weeks which have passed since I gave Mr Morgenthau
a memorandum outlining what the Chancellor of the Exchequer had
sent me to say, no positive progress has been made. But the

possibilities of the situation have been very carefully explored
by Sir F. Phillips and myself with the officials of the Treasury
Department and with Mr Cox, who have been most kind and sympathetic

and helpful but have been up against difficulties which were none
of their making.

I am given to understand that, as a result of this examination,
Mr "orgentius will be advised shortly of the utmost which is possible
by way of relieving us of existing commitments. But it is clear,
I think, that the amount, if any, available after satisfying Mr

orgenthau's promise to Sir F. Phillips to find relief of from
$300,000,000 to $400,000,000, will not go far towards satisfying the
needs which I outlined in my memorandum.

The time has come, therefore, when I need guidance from you

how it would be useful for me to try to make progress, in so far
as this is possible through the Lend/Lease machinery. Leaving
details and minor sources on one side, and assuming that we are

already putting in requisitions in respect of all U.S. exports
to U.K. which can be handled administratively on our side and are
acceptable on yours, there appear to me to be only two methods which

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or of substantial importance:(1) The financial estimates made in London assume that munition
exports to the British Commonwealth outside Britain (excluding Canada)

will be lent-leased but that we shall have to pay cash for other exports
to those destinations. If you were prepared to ap ly to requisitions
under Lend/Lease on behalf of other parts of the Empire outside North
America the same general criteria that you apply to requisitions from

Britain, this would afford us a material relief.
I do not mean by this that you should not apply to Dominion

applications stricter tests under the priority arrangements where
corionsense and the necessities of the situation suggest that
stricter tests are appropriate; but that types of cases which would
be eligible for Lend/Lease if they were for the U.K. should also
be eligible when they are for other parts of the Empire in all
cases where the stuff is available for them to take.
This would, I suggest, be a sensible sort of arrangement to
make, since it would amount to substituting Lend/Lease supplies
which present no administrative or other difficulties in place of
U.K. requirements which do present such difficulties.

It in unlikely that the relief obtainable in this way would
do the whole trick, but it would go a long way. It is a difficulty
in the way of my obtaining reliable estimates at short notice that
London might think it inadvisable to encourage the Dominions to
draw up requirements along these lines unless there was some reasonable

ho. e of their getting satisfaction. Our total disbursements in respect
of exports from the U.S. to the British Empire outside Great Britain
and Canada are estimated at $450,000,000 a year, but only a proportion

of this, say a third to a half, is likely to prove workable through
the Lend/Lease machinery, at any rate in the first instance.

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What I contemplate in making this suggestion is not independent
lend-leasing direct to the Dominions, but lend-leasing to Great

Britain with authority to transfer to the Dominions. This procedure
has the advantage that it does not complicate the "consideration
agreement or the organisation which is now conveniently centralised
under Mr Purvis. Otherwise the President would have to make five
distinct consideration agreements and you would have to deal with

five independent requisitioning authorities. Moreover if the
requisitions on Dominion behalf are not centralised and criticised
by us before they reach you, considerable waste of time may ensue.

There are also other difficulties which I need not labour.
(2) The only other important way in which you can help us
would be by obtaining fresh authority from Congress when next the
President asks for an appropriation.
We estimate that we are spending currently in the United States

at least $700,000,000 a year, which, for one reason or another, is not
being paid for through the Lend/Lease machinery, of which $250,000,000

is for Great Britain and $450,000,000 for the rest of the Empire exclusive of Canada (as mentioned under (1) above). . As you know, we

have a common purse with the Dominions, apart from Canada, for dollar
expenditure, and we must provide the dollars needed for their essential

purposes as well as for our own. It is these heavy disbursements,
additional to our pre-Lend/Lease commitments for munitions, which

are the source of our financial difficulties. If we could be relieved
of a substantial part of these, we should be - relatively speaking - in
an extremely satisfactory position.
To be more precise, would it be possible for the President to
take authority, when next he approaches Congress for a Lend/Lease

appropriation, to ask for a sum of (say) $500,000,000 a year (or

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$250,000,000 if the Dominions are being dealt with under (1) above)
which he was frec to make available for expenditure in the U.S.

otherwise than through the strict Lend/Lease procedure of requisitions
etc.?

This would enable him, in effect, to make a cash transfer to
us provided we undertook to expend it in the U.S. for current needs
other than on pre-Lend/Lease aunition commitments which we should

continue to meet out of our own resources as we have agreed to do.

He could point out to Congress that a few months' experience has
shown that the Lend/Lease procedure is convenient and appropriate
over 95 per cent of the field, but that there remains a margin where

it is administratively inconvenient or impracticable, so that he
needs a little elbow room to deal with this marginal field.
Otherwise, it is a case of spoiling the ship for the sake of
a coat of paint. We have this magnificent conception of Lend/Lease;
"consideration" is being discussed on lines more magnanimous than
any hitherto recorded transactions between great nations; and yet,
on account of our resources having been so completely enhausted

before Lend/Lease came into operation, we suffer anxiety and possible
cabarrassment through being unable to accumulate the minimum reserves

which are necessary to carry the vast financial responsibilities of
London. At the present moment the total gold reserves of the Bank of
England are less than $50,000,000, and the cash reserves of the

British Treasury less than $100,000,000 - which would be laughable if
it were not so embarrassing. To build these up, except very slowly,

out of our accruing resources is impossible while we are facing the
double task of paying off old commitments and financing current
expenditure of the sterling using parts of the Empire in the U.S.

outside Lend/Lease. Yet it needs only a trifling addition to the

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assistance we are already receiving to give us the necessary comfort
of mind and freedom from daily cares - a gain to our Administration

in 11 the circumstances of the present hour altogether out of
proportion to the sums involved.
I am sending Mr Morgenthau a copy of this letter so that he
will be aware of what I am suggesting.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) J.M. Keynes

Phone converse- 58

tions with
Hophins, / Purvis

of cox June 19meeting 6/19/41
3:30 P.M. . -

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OFFICE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

DIVISION OF DEFENSE AID REPORTS
WASHINGTON D. c.

dee diary item dated
June 18, 1941

6/19/41 distated by Hr Gr

in his transcrisation
with Cox.

Dear Secretary Morgenthau:

At the conference which was held on Monday with Mr. Bell,
Mr. Cochrane, Sir Frederick Phillips and John Maynard Keynes, I

called to the attention of Phillips and Keynes the illustrative
fact that the British had placed an order through their purchasing
missions for steel for the week ending May 31, 1941, in an amount

of $528,000. I suggested that they might want to look into this.

The very excellent British Empire Commodity Statements
which are prepared by George Haas for you show that for the fourweek period ended April 19, 1941, British orders placed in the
United States through the British purchasing missions amounted to
$107,689,000 Since that time such orders have been placed as
follows:

Week Ended

Total

April 26

4,975,000
5,437,000
11,795,000
4,830,000
3,771,000
5,571,000

May 3
May 10
May 17
May 24
May 31

These orders ought to be looked into for three principal
purposes: (1) Why they were not placed under Lend-Lease; (2) Which,
if any, of them could be picked up by Lend-Lease; and (3) Whether
future orders of this type should not be picked up by Lend-Lease to

the fullest extent possible.

If you think it wise, I think it might be desirable to

have a copy of these British Empire Commodity Statements sent to
Sir Frederick Phillips and John Maynard Keynes for their investiga-

tion so that the supply branches can be tied in with the financial
end. As I understand it, the supply branches are probably interested

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-2in doing the buying with their own funds. This would seem to
be the case, for example, in steel purchases which were made for
the week ending May 31. In that case the picture seems to be that
by reason of having obtained a cancellation, the steel purchasers
felt that they had the dollar exchange free to place their own
order. As far as I know, there was no reason for not having the
order placed through Lend-Lease.

Sincerely yours,

Oscar lot

Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
Treasury Department
Washington, D. C.

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June 18, 1941

In connection with the attached memo, the
Secretary instructed Mr. Cochran to tell Mr. Crane

that inasmuch as it is a foreign properties matter

he should set his advice from the State Department
and keep the Treasury informed

62

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE June 18, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

At 10:20 this morning Mr. Jay Crane telephoned me from New York. He asked

if Mr. Bell and I could receive him if he came to Washington tomorrow forenoon. I
told him that we would both be here, but inquired as to what his mission was. He
referred to the information which he had recently given me by telephone in regard
to the approach of the Germans toward purchasing the Hungarian properties of the

Standard Oil Company of New Jersey. He said that a message had now been received

to the effect that the German negotiator who is in Brazil has found that he cannot
get into Cuba, where it had been proposed that he should meet with a representative
of the Standard oil. Consequently the question arises as to whether one of the
Vice Presidents of the Standard 011 should proceed to Rio de Janeiro for consultation with the German representative.

Mr. Crane recalled to me that he had given Secretary Morgenthau a report on
the general sale proposal as soon as it had come up some months ago. I remembered

this, and told Mr. Crane that I thought this present inquiry of his should be brought
by me to the attention of the Secretary. Mr. Crane said that his question is whether
the Treasury Department, in the light of recent changes in the relations between the
United States and Germany, would look with favor upon the Standard proceeding with
its negotiations with the Germans, or would prefer that the Standard drop the whole

matter. I told Mr. Crane that I would let Mr. Bell know of his message, and also
see whether I could get some advice from the Secretary, and then call him back.
Mr. Crane offered to come down to Washington on tonight's train, or fly down early
in the morning, if we wish to see him. He would have to be back in New York tomorrow
night for a dinner which Dr. Randolph Burgess is giving in honor of Mr. Pinedo, exFinance Minister of Argentina.
In answer to my question, Crane told me that this latest development would be

brought to the attention of Mr. Atherton in the Department of State, but that he did
not think this had yet been done. He said Mr. Atherton had been kept informed of
all earlier steps.

ml

It will be recalled that our letter to Attorney General Jackson on this subject
went out only yesterday, and that a copy thereof was simultaneously sent to Secretary
of State Hull.

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BRITISH PURCHASING COMMISSION

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May 28, 1941
PRIVATE

DearSecretary Morgenthau,

When I was in Washington last week we were so preoccupied with the

Viscose business that it was not possible to bring up other matters, otherwise
I should have mentioned the Coates-Clark group of thread companies to you.

The British authorities regard the work of these companies as of
particular importance because eighty per cent of the output of the British mills
is being exported and producing foreign exchange.

In order to safeguard the position as much as possible, arrangements
were made many months ago by which, should one or more of the large mills in
Scotland be put out of action, the American company could carry on such part of
the foreign business as was affected.
Experts were sent out here some months ago, designs, gauges and all
other elements necessary to produce for each country what it has been accustomed

to. The British authorities would regard it as a real misfortune if anything

were to happen to interfere with these arrangements.

In any event the more I looked into the matter, the more I felt that
these companies were not likely to prove very satisfactory from a sale point of
view. I am glad to be able to tell you, therefore, that with the help of

Mr. Clarence Dillon I have been able to bring arrangements almost to completion
under which a loan will be made to the company, partly by banks, partly by

insurance companies, of sixteen million dollars with a favorable rate of interest.
This is a great deal more than I had at one time expected, and I have no hesita-

tion in saying that from every point of view it will be a satisfactory transaction.

If I may do 80 I propose to telephone on Monday afternoon, to ask if
you approve of what I am provisionally arranging in order that I may have the
matter closed without delay.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) E. R. Peacock
Sir Edward Peacock
Honorable Henry M. Morgenthau

Secretary of the Treasury
The Treasury
Washington, D.C.

to Mrs Bell Junes
OOPY:1ap-6/5/41

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JUN 18 1941

Memorandum for the President

What assets did the Nasis have available for expenditure in the United States before Germany was brought
under foreign funds control?
Mr. John Franklin Carter's (Jay Franklin's) memorandum

of June 12. dealing with the above topic. greatly underestimates the assets which the Nasia had available for
expenditure in the United States before the recent extension
of foreign funds control.
Mr. Carter rightly emphasises the extent to which
German assets in the United States have gone into hiding.
Discovery of the true ownership of such hidden German

assets will be one of the most difficult problems in the
administration of our foreign funds control.
However, Mr. Carter is in error in saying that: "The

only 'free' German reserve of dollar exchange is the
approximately $50,000,000 in American securities held in
trust in Switserland for the account of the German Dye
Trust". Further, he is recording a mistaken belief when
he says that: "German funds in the United States are not
believed to amount to more than $10,000,000 in each and
securities".

The following is the true picture, in accordance with
our inventory of foreigh property in this country and with
due allowance for gape in our knowledge of the assets convertible into dollars which the Nasis hold in other
the best information available before we have completed
countries:

1. Gold - - It is not at all impossible that the Germans

have as such as $3/4 billion of gold. spart from French gold.
Some gold they no doubt had when the war began.
They may have taken over some of the $68,000,000
of Polish gold which the French moved to Dakar,

besides such private gold holdings as were left
in Poland. The British report that the Germans

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seised $160,000,000 worth, from official holdings, in Helland. Probably about $190,000,000
worth of Belgian gold (but possibly as such as
$260,000,000) is being turned over to then by
France. They have certainly acquired some

Swedish gold, and they have probably acquired
some Swiss gold and some Russian gold. They may
have acquired some private gold in Alsace-Lorraine,
Belgium, the Netherlands, etc.

2. Dollar Balances - Balances in the United States is

Germany's own name are small. but she has exbatential

balances in other countries which. before the recent
extension of our foreign funds control. could be converted

into dollars at will.

Germany's known dollar balances in the United
States are now only 86 million.

By far the larger part of Germany's dollars have
been held in dollar accounts (or local currency
accounts convertible into dollars) in Switserland,
Spain, Portugal, Sweden, and Latin America. It

is from these accounts that Germany did draw
the dollars to pay perhaps as such as $100,000,000,

since the outbreak of war, for the repurchase
of German securities formerly held by foreigners
and to buy up branch plants in Germany owned by

foreign corporations. It is with these dollars

that -- while she has only $6 million on deposit
in the United States -- Germany is currently
making offers totalling many tens of millions
of dollars to buy up American-owned branch plants
in German-controlled territory.

3. Long-term Dollar Investments -- In the United States.
held in German names. perhape $35,000,000; held abroad.
or in the United states. but not in German names. certainly
larger.

A Treasury study of known German long-term invest-

ments in the United States, based on the withholding tax returns, estimated the value of such assets
at the end of 1940 at approximately $35,000,000.
This estimate makes no allowance for concealment

nor for liquidation since that date.

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-3Germany has acquired centrol of United States

securities which may total hundreds of millions
of dollars through her administration of the
occupied countries. Such United States SCOUPS.
tics, fermerly belonging to nationals of the

occupied countries, as she has not conficcated,
purchased (with funds supplied by the occupied
country), or brought under German control by
the assumption of administrative authority over
banks and security agents, have been required
to be registered in special blocked accounts.
However, we hope that our controls will now

render the liquidation of those securities in
the United States impossible.

(Signed) E. Morgoather, m

HDW
OGirel
6/18/41

File Copy
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 13, 1941.
MEMORANDUM FOR

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

F. D. R.

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JOHN FRANKLIN CARTER

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(Jay Franklin)

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1210 National Press Bldg.,
Washington, D. C.

June 12, 1941.

MEMORANDUM ON GERMAN FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR NAZI PURPOSES IN THE U.S.A.

Reports to Frank Page of I.T. & T. from Colonel Behn indicate
that the only "free" German reserve of dollar exchange is the approximately $50,000,000 in American securities held in trust in Switzerland
for the account of the German Dye Trust.
Nazi authorities are permitting trading on the Amsterdam Bourse,

etc., in certificates which represent American securities seized
in occupied territory or taken under what amounts to forced sale from

their inhabitants. These securities are held by the German authorities
against the certificates. Offer was made to purchase I.T. & T. properties in Germany with such certificates; offer was refused.
German funds in the U.S. are not believed to amount to more than
$10,000,000 in cash and securities. Much more has gone into hiding:

safe-deposit boxes, durmies, etc. and is being held for use as needed
by the German authorities. Perhaps a sudden freezing of all safe-deposit boxes might locate this currency etc.
(sgd) J.F.C.

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Berlin.
DATE:

June 18, 1941, noon.

NO. :

2415.

At eleven P.M. the Reichabank announced that it was

continuing to pay remittances and asserts (1) to United

States citizens as before, although banking institutions
have been refusing to cash U.S. checks and officials of
the Foreign Office have informed inquirers that they
should not request by telegraph travel mark remittances
from New York.

Please advise Treasury Department.
MORRIS.

EA:MSG

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June 18. 1942

Necere. Feis and Semilton
Mr. Geobrea

will you kindly send as the expense of the Stabilization Fund of the
emblogram along the following lines:
"American Babasay,
Chungking.

For Fax from the Secretary of the treasury.
Reference year informative messages June 11 from Hong Kong and 239

June 15 through Natural.

(1) treasury fools question of Begore appointment OF sea-

appointment is entirely . satter for the British Govern-

sent's docision and for the Chinese Government's approval
or non-approval. We should not assompt to influence

desistes either my.

(2) treasury hopes that five member Board as contemplated will

be set - for business at earliest practicable date.

treasury believes establishment of the Board should have

priority over exploration of economic and political
problems.

(3) these Board is established contemplates writing

New York head office of American beaks is Shina colleiting
their cooperation with the Board is esabilization of year.
Benore have reached Treasury that - American banks is
Monghas above signs of breaking and from common front is

support of fapi, each beaks feeling free their point of

view that there are considerable adventages is reaching
early working agreement with the P.B.D. Please report
any information you may receive on this point which sight
be holyful is treasury's approach to the New York beaks.

(4) Please censult our Rebeary on question of confidential
clorical assistance."

HMC:da:6.E8.41

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June 18, 1941
Files
Mr. Cockres

Upon receipt yesterday from Mr. White's office of the letter of June 8 from
the Free French Delegation in New York to the Secretary of the Streamy
of Mr. Achosom", I telephoned Mr. Samuel Rober, is charge of the French dest is the

Department of State. I told his of this letter. So said that the witer thereof.
Mr. Jacques do Steyee, had forwarded a copy thereof to m. Deen Achoson is the
Department of State, for when the communication was originally intended, after
learning that a state had been node is addressing Mr. Schools is the Greasury.

Mr. Rober said, therefore, that there was as need to seal this letter ea.

In saser to ay inquiry as to whether be, Mr. Rober, received representatives
of the Free French Delegation, he told se that he did receive each people, but as
French citizens who have taken refage is United States. and not as efficiale.

ging

HMC: da: 6.18.41

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FREE FRENCH DELEGATION

IN THE U.S.A.

730 Fifth Avenue - New York City
Circle 7-2364
June 2, 1941.

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

Attention of Mr. Acheson.
Dear Mr. Acheson:

I beg to send you herewith the copy of
a cable which I have received from General de
Ganlle's Headquarters in London.

I have reason to believe that its con-

tents will interest you.
Very sincerely yours,

(Signed) Jacques de Sieyes.
Jacques de Sieyes.

Jds:jf

COPY - dm - 6/17/41

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Mr. White

June 5. 1941

Mr. Snider

Subject: Translation of a cable to Mr. Acheson from M. Jacques de Sieyes,
which the latter received from General de Gaulle's headquarters
in London.

Mr. Acheson

June 2, 1941

Telegram from London, May 29, 1941.

Give the widest possible publicity to the following documents:
General Doyen, President of the French Delegation of the Armistice
Commission at Wiesbaden, gave a report on February 5. 1941, to General

Huntringer, Minister of War at Vichy.

According to this report, if Germany should win the war, the
Departments of the Nord, of Pas-de-Calais, part of the Somme, of the
Aisne, of Ardennes, of Meuse, of Meurthe-et-Moselle, part of Haute Saone,
and of Doubs, would, like Alsace Lorraine, not only be annexed but colonized by Germany.

Here are the essential passages of the report:

"I believe it is my duty to recall to you that the German claims
have not been presented all at one time, but that the Germans have tried,
and up to the present time have succeeded, in presenting them one after
another. Now, the establishment of the western frontier of Germany on
the Meuse and on the Escaut is part of the program of claims, the idea of
which they are now seeking to inculcate into the German people.

"The more or less complete realization of this program does not
depend on our policy but on the possibilities that the outcome of the war
with England will give to the Reich."
Insist on the fact that a General who has the confidence of Vichy
emphasizes that the treatment inflicted on France does not depend upon
the policy of Vichy but only on the result of the war between England and
Germany.

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-2Here is the conclusion of General Doyen's report:

"A part of the territory in France appears particularly coveted
by the Reich: namely, that of the occupied zone. The German Armistice
Commission has just advised us that a German agricultural society has
been charged with the exploitation of the lands which were abandoned

following the prohibition of the return of the population into the

occupied zone. When it is added that the recruitment of French workers
for Germany is being carried on intensively, notably in the Departments
of the Nord and of Pas-de-Calais, and that veritable raids are organised
as a result of which thousands of Frenchmen are separated from their
homes, there is reason to suspect that the Nasi Government seeks to
depopulate systematically a part of our country in order to install Germans,
as occurred in Alsace-Lorraine

Signed: Doyen."

COPY - da - 6/17/41

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

P

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WASHINGTON

June 18, 1941

In reply refer to
RA

My dear Mr. Secretary:

The Charge d'Affaires ad interim of the Republic of Haiti,
at the request of his Government, has advised this Department of

the desire of the National Bank of the Republic of Haiti, a
government institution, to purchase $750,000 worth of gold for

the purpose of serving as a reserve against the circulation of
Haitian currency. The gold, if purchased, would remain on
deposit with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for the account

of the National Bank of the Republic of Haiti.
At the same time the Charge has inquired if the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York would be willing to re-purchase the

gold at the same price, in the event that the Haitian Government

should decide later to sell it.
A translation of the instructions received by the Charge
d'Affaires from his government is attached.
I should appreciate an expression of the views of the Treasury

Department in regard to this matter.
Sincerely yours,

For the Secretary of State:
Summer Welles

/s/

Under Secretary
The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Secretary of the Treasury

Enclosure: Translation of instructions from Port-au-Prince, Haiti,
May 31, 1941.

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TRANSLATION

SECRETARIATE OF STATE
FOR

FOREIGN RELATIONS

URGENT

Port-au-Prince, May 31, 1941.

Mr. Charge d'Affaires:

I invite you to advise the Department of State of the
United States, upon receipt of these presents, of the desire

of the National Bank of the Republic of Haiti to buy
$750,000.00 in gold intended to guarantee the Haitian
monetary circulation,

I also request you to ascertain, by making use of

the good offices of the Department of State, the willingness of the Federal Bank to take back the gold in question
at the purchase price in the event that the National Bank

of the Republic of Haiti should decide to sell it.
You will note that the gold in question is to remain
on deposit with the Federal Bank for the account of the
National Bank of the Republic of Haiti.
Please accept (etc.)
(Signed) Fombrun

Mr. Jacques C. Antoine,

Charge d'Affaires of the Republic of Haiti,
Washington, D.C.

Tr:Ca:HSF

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

In reply refer to
EA 840.51 Frozen Credits/1938

June 18, 1941

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to the
Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses herewith
copies of a telegram, no. 1158, dated June 17. 1941 from the
American Embassy in Moscow, concerning foreign funds in the

United States frozen under Executive Order No. 8785.

Enclosure:

No. 1158 from Moscow,
June 17. 1941.

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GRAY

GMW

Moscow

Dated June 17, 1941

Rec'd 10:42 a.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

1158, June 17. Noon.

The Moscow papers this morning publish the following Tass
despatch from New York:

"According to the Washington correspondent of the United
Press Agency Roosevelt has sequestered German and Italian funds

in the United States of America. The White House simultaneously

announced the sequestration of funds of all countries of con-

tinental Europe. Along with this it was declared that the
sequestration can be lifted from the funds of Sweden, Finland,
Spain, Portugal, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
through the medium of general licenses upon the appropriate

assurance that the general licenses will not be used 'for the
purpose of evading this law"
STEINHARDT

NPL

Copy:bj:6-19-41

LEEVENBA
RECEIVED

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Copy of Letter from Y. Santiago, June 18,1941.

The political situation here has changed somewhat. It is evident
that our President believes that a balance in his Cabinet between friends
of the Nazis and friends of England would be desirable. Rosetti, our
Minister of Foreign Affairs, is a decided Nazi and his reputation

not too good. The Minister of the Interior, Mr. Olavarria, is leaning

towards the Nazia, while the rest of the Cabinet Ministers are quite
respectable people.

The activity among the German Colony for training purposes etc. still
continues unabated. It appears, however, that news of the food situation
Germany is none too good and the continuation of the resistance of
Ingland, together with the attitude of the U.S., has had e considerable
ooling effect upon the enthusiasm in the German Colony.
It is becoming gradually evident that Chileans of German descent are

separated from Nazi activities to a certain extent and, altogether, people
of German extraction who half a year ago held their heads very high are
beginning to become visibly worried. The former enthusiasm is being
limned by several circumstances and incidents of which I wish to mention
one rather amusing one:

You have heard that the German steamers left Chilean ports a few
weeks ago. One of then was the steamer "Erlangen" which left from

uerto Montt. The steamer was first filled up with all sorts of material,

principally food stuff, and all this was supplied by a Nazi firm, Wagner

Chadwick. When the Captain had everything aboard, he was confidentially

advised that bombs were hidden among the merchandise. So promptly he
inloaded again and when he had unloaded everything but 300 tons, he got

rders to pull out. The Embassy here, then, attempted to sell the merhandise, which turned out to be a rather poor quality. Finally they
rought pressure upon Wagner & Chadwick to take back everything at cost,
ind at last that firm consented but under the condition that the bribe

oney paid by them to Mr. Boettcher, the Commercial Attache of the
Inbassy, and Mr. Schulte, who is also close to the Embassy, be returned

them. These little incidents are gradually raising some discord in
10 Colony and not everybody is convinced that the high officials of the
Pirty are acting from exclusively altruistic motives.
The firm attitude of the U.S. Government is bound to have its
fects here, if it lasts, and the decision of the American companies
lot to have any Germen employees, the inability of the banks to bring
funds from the States, etc. might all help to quiet things down in this
art of the world.

1001

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DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF

SPECIAL NOTICE
ADVANCE NOTICE RADIO PROGRAMS

WEDNESDAY - JUNE 18

Time:

7:00 - 7:30 PM.

Program: "QUIZ KIDS"

This program originates in Chicago, Illinois.

Mrs. Henry horgenthau, Jr. will be Guest Speaker
from the National Broadcasting Company Studios
in Washington.

Station: WMAL

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ADVANCE NOTICE RADIO PROGRAMS
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18

Time:

11:00 - 11:15 AM.

Program: Kate Smith Speaks
Station: WJSV
Time:

1:30 - 1:45 PM.

Program: "Valient Lady"
Entire Program turned over to Defense Savings Bonds
and Stamps including opening and closing commercials
which will be substituted by Announcements for the
Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps.
Station: WRC
Time:

3:30 - 3:45 PM.

Program: Lorenzo Jones
Station: WRC

Time:

6:30 - 7:00 PM.

Program: Meet Mr. Meek
Station: WJSV
Time:

8:00 - 9:00 PM.

Program: Texaco Star Theatre with Fred Allen
Station: WJSV

Time: 9:00 P.M.
Program: Heavyweight Championship Fight between Champion

Joe Louis and Billy Conn. Announcements for
Defense Bonds and Stamps between Rounds.

Station: WJSV

THESE PROGRAMS PROMOTE SALE OF DEFENSE BONDS AND STAMPS.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 18, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

£94,000
£13,000

Open market sterling was first quoted at 4.03-3/4. Around mid-afternoon,
it moved to 4.03-1/2, remaining at that level for the rest of the day. The only
reported transactions consisted of sales of £2,000 to commercial concerns.
The Canadian dollar discount widened to close at 11-7/8%, as compared with

11-9/16% last night.

The Uruguayan free peso, which closed at .4200 yesterday. advanced to a

final quotation of .4260 this afternoon.

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below

were as follows:

Argentine peso (free)

Brazilian milreis (free)

Mexican peso
Cuban peso

.2380
.0505
.2070

1-3/16% discount

In Shanghai, the yuan advanced 1/32# to 5-15/32 Sterling was quoted at
3.92-1/4, up 1/44.

There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.
No new gold engagements were reported.

We were informed that the Bombay gold price on June 14 was equivalent to

$34.15, representing a decline of 15 from the quotation of June 7. Silver in
Bombay was 1/16 lower, at the equivalent of 44.61
In London, a price of 23-7/16d was fixed for both spot and forward silver,

a

gain of 1/16d in each case. The U.S. equivalent of this price is 42.55

The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35 Handy
and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 34-3/44.
There were no silver purchases made by us today.

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The Federal Reserve Bank's report of June 11, listing deposits of banks in
Asia with the New York agencies of Japanese banks, showed that such deposits
totaled $69,986,000. a decline of $656,000 since June 4. The two largest changes
in deposits occurred at the Mitsui Bank agency, where there was a decline of
$687,000 to $1,109,000, and at the Yokohama Specie Bank agency, where deposits

rose $650,000 to $65,429,000. The latter agency's principal dollar liabilities
to and dollar claims on Japanese banks in Asia stood as follows on June 11:
June 11

Liabilities: Deposits for Japan and Manchuria.
Deposits for China
: U.S. Treas. Bills, comm. paper, etc
Claims

: Loans

: Other - mainly Jap. import bills

$48,319,000
15,352,000
30,848,000
$19,539,000
5,910,000

Change from
June 4

+ $1,162,000

- 550,000

+ 3,296,000
- $6,568,000

- 778,000

Japanese and Manchurian bank deposits increased only $1,162,000, despite the receipt
of more than $9,000,000 from the Bank of Java account at the Federal Reserve Bank.

(Reference was made to this transfer in our report of June 11.) The difference of

nearly $8,000,000 was presumably used to reduce Agency loans, pay off Japanese import

bills, and to purchase U.S. Treasury bills, etc.

CONFIDENTIAL

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

PERSONAL

18th June, 1941.

AND SECRET

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the
latest report received from London on the

military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

hask Birth

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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Telegram from London dated 16th June, 1941.

On 15th June the Reyal Air Force attacked conveya

off the enemy coast. One merchant ship of 1,000 tons
and one 4,000 tone hit with bombs, one 5,000 tens his

torpedo and left with heavy list. During one attack
6,000 ton merchant ship thought to have received
glancing hit by bomb. One E boat also damaged.
2.
P.M. 15th June. Vichy destroyer Cassard class
was sighted by aircraft northwest of Gyprus on Easterly
course and at 03:00 June 16th she was hit by two
torpedoes from aircraft about 40 miles northwest of

Tripolis, Syria.
3.

Nine Wellingtons attached Bengasi the night of

June 13th/June 14th. During intensive operations in
Libya our aircraft have destroyed 11 aircraft on the
ground, 3 in the air and destroyed OF disabled 3 light
tanks and 23 M.T. vehicles.
Sollum area. British patrol reached Gembut area
40 miles west of Bardia and destroyed 12 Italian M.T.
vehicles. Yesterday our forces captured Capusso and
4.

Bir Waer.
5.

Abyssinia. In 01mmak area it appears that one

enemy division has completed withdrawal from west of

the river Didessa, Baco 65 miles east southeast of Maji
has been evacuated by the enemy.
6.

Iraq. One of our columns has left Amara en

route for Bagdad.
7.

Syria. On 14th June nine Blenheims destroyed

at least 3 aircraft on the ground at Aleppo. on the
right our forward troops are established north of river
Nahr el Aouaj. Najha captured. Moukelbe reported

captured subject to confination. In center Jessine
occupied/

-2occupied morning of 15th June. Sidon captured 12:00
hours 15th June.
8.

Last night we sent over 182 aircraft which

attacked railway centers in the Ruhr Hanover and

Dunkirk. All returned but one. Enemy activity
United Kingdom negligible.

Four aircraft of Condor unit attacked a
convoy at 07:50 hours on 15th June. They were
engaged one by one by a Catalina flying boat

escorting the convey. Catalina reported having
received minor damage but no casualties. It was
subsequently reported four enemy aircraft forced
landed in Portugal, 3 of which were German and it

is thought probable that these were the aircraft
which attacked the convoy.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON D.C.

PERSONAL

AND SECRET

18th June, 1941

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the
latest report received from London on the

military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Thank Both

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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Telegram received from London dated June 15th, 1941.

on June 14th substantial reinforcements

of Hurricanes arrived at Malta.
2.

P.M. 14th. Two French destroyers sighted

five miles west of Beirut returned eventually when
attempt to intercept was made. 3,300 ton Italian
tarker was torpedoed and sunk off Cape Hellas a.m. June

10th probably by British submarine. Norwegian tanker
of 6,000 tons reports that on the 12th was shelled by
shore battery when 15 miles off Iles de Los, French
Guinea. An aircraft which was spotting also machinegunned her.
3.

Night of 14th/15th, 29 bombers sent to

Colone. All returned but conditions bad. Night
before Royal Air Force bombers dropped 71 tone of high

explosives including 16 of 2,000 pounds on positions of
Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, 86 tone of high explosives
including 6 of 2,000 pounds dropped on positions of
Prinz Eugen. Target screened and ground haze but many

bursts seen very close to ships.
4.

6 offensive fighter patrola carried out over

France 14th. They shot down 3 enemy aircraft and

damaged 3 without loss. Night of 12th/13th 6 Wellingtons
successfully bombed Benghazi. Bursts seen on or neur
two 3,000 ton ships.

Libya. Egypt. At the end of May estimated
number of Italian tanks 18 medium, 45 light, all in
Tobruk area. Originally there were 230. Night of 11th/
5.

12th mechanised patrol encountered 16 Italian M.T.

vehicles destroying 12. Night of 12th/14th our troops
improved/

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improved our position in Medawa Salient by means
of advance.
6.

Abyssinia. June 9th in Gambela area our

troops met considerable opposition in attack from
the South. Casualties slight and operation
continuing.
7.

Iraq. Tigrie column has arrived near

Amara. Haditha column reports still some enemy
activity near Abu Kemal.

Syria. In centre our troops have reached
Jessine and operations continue northwards. About
8.

Sidon strong Vichy resistance with tanks reported.

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CONFIDENTIAL

MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION
WAR DEPARTMENT

TENTATIVE LESSONS BULLETIN

No. 121

Washington, June 18, 1941

0-2/2657-235

NOTICE

The information contained in this series of bulletins
will be restricted to items from official sources which are
reasonably confirmed. The lessons necessarily are tentative

and in no sense mature studies.
This document is being given an approved distribution,

and no additional copies are available in the Military Intelligence Division. For provisions governing its reproduction,
see letter TAG 350.05 (9-19-40) M-B-M.

MISCELLANEOUS NOTES ON THE GERMAN ARMY

SOURCE

These notes are based upon information released by a

high British official source on March 23, 1941.
CONTENTS

1. CAMOUFLAGED PARACHUTE

2. FLAME THROWERS

a. Test Report on Portable Flame Threwer
Possible Use of Flame Throwers in Support of

b.

Landing Operations
3. ANTI-GAS EQUIPMENT
4. SLEEPING GASES
5. CHEMICAL WARFARE TRAINING OF PARACHUTE TROOPS

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CONFIDENTIAL

MISCELLANEOUS NOTES ON THE GERMAN ARMY

1. CAMOUFLAGED PARACHUTE

A type of German parachute never before found in England has
recently been examined. It may be used for dropping German agents.
Although the parachute is of the same size and general character-

istics as the German version of the Irving parachutes hitherto re-

covered in England, there are a number of important differences.
The whole surface of the canopy is camouflaged, and the

cords, ordinarily white, are dyed sepia. The camouflage, very ingeniously executed, forms an all-over pattern on the cloth in shades
of emerald green, gold, olive green, and combinations of these

probably formed by overprintings.

The method of application is almost certainly printing,
but it is difficult to be quite sure of this because the parachute

examined was wet when found. The camouflage was apparently applied
to the cloth before the chute was made up, probably by machine

printing of the surface type or possibly by screen printing. Although it is not easily recognized, there is a definite repeat of

the design within about 32 inches from any given point on the whole

cloth, but it is most difficult to detect this, partly because of
the irregular all-over effect of the pattern itself and partly be-

cause the cloth is cut on the bias. Arrangement of the triangular
sections from the perimeter to the anulus further assists in disguising the repeat of the pattern.

If, the design is not printed, it may possibly be applied
by spraying, with a stencil used to distribute the design.
2. FLAME THROWERS

a. Test Report on Portable Flame Thrower
A standard German portable flame thrower recently taken
from the tail of a DO-17 has been repaired, and tests have been
completed with the following results:
(1) Mechanism

It was found that the trigger control did not operate satisfactorily for intermittent firing. This difficulty was overcome by
the introduction of a suitable spring.
The hydrogen valve would not hold pressure and this defect
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was finally traced to porous metal around the valve seating. When
a remedy was sought by bushing the part between the hydrogen valve

and the main oil supply pipe, it crumbled away. For test purposes,
commercial Schrader valves were put in, but these were found to
leak gas at 150 atmospheres pressure unless a harder rubber seal

was used.

There is no reason why either of these faults should be in-

herent in the design of the flame thrower, but it is evident that
the sample tested was of indifferent quality.
(2) Performance

Under satisfactory weather conditions, a maximum range of 25
yards was obtai ned. Average conditions indicate a range of 20 yards,
which falls to 16 yards as the nitrogen pressure drops to a minimum.
The duration of the jet, when uninterrupted, was 12 seconds, with an
approximate discharge rate of 1/5 gallon per second.

(3) Fuel
A mixture of 90% heavy furnace fuel oil and 10% benzol, gave

satisfactory ignition and deposited burning oil on the ground at
full range. A mixture of 80% heavy fuel oil and 20% gasoline gave
similar results. Heavy liquid creosote free from undissolved solid
matter was next tried, but inflammation was not obtained throughout
the pressure range of the apparatus. The trajectory was straight,

and during the part of the test when inflamation was obtained, all

the creosote was burned in the air before reaching the ground unless
the range was shortened by depressing the nozzle. The performance
was about what would be expected from a weapon of this size and
weight.

b. Possible Use of Flame Throwers in Support of Landing Operations
Reports have been received indicating that the Germans are
using flame throwers during certain phases of specialized invasion
training which is being carried out in Western Germany and France.
The flame throwers are reported to be mounted on boats and to have
a range of from 50 to 300 meters; it is considered probable, however, that if flame throwers are used on boats they are more likely
to be of the one-man portable type than of the fixed type.

It has been found that the upper practical limit of a flame
thrower's range is about 150 yards. A flame-thrower mounted on a

boat standing off shore is not likely to find suitable targets on
shore within this range. Moreover the flame thrower, with its
pumping motor and fuel storage tank, would represent a volume and
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weight which attacking craft could probably not afford for a weapon
of such doubtful value. The discharge rate of a jet giving a 150yard range is about 2 tons a minute.
Once the troops and armored vehicles taking part in the

landing have disembarked and are on the beaches, an assault on the
antitank obstacles and defense positions becomes a normal land

operation in which the German troops are well trained. The final
reduction of pillboxes by portable flame throwers forms part of
training for an assault operation, and it is quite reasonable that
flame throwers of this type - or, alternatively, the tank-mounted
type-would be seen in use during landing practice. The portable
flame thrower has the advantage of flexibility, although its maximum range under favorable conditions is only 20 yards. Reliable
details of the tank-mounted flame thrower are lacking, but it
probably has a range up to 150 yards, with a jet duration of one
to two minutes.

It is considered that, with resolutely defended positions
and pillboxes sited to give cross covering fire, the use of flame
throwers, either portable or tank-mounted, would be very restricted,
since either form of this weapon is very vulnerable to rifle or

machine gun fire.

3. ANTI-GAS EQUIPMENT

It has been reliably reported that tablets of bleaching powder
are now being distributed to workmen in all large German towns and

factories for application to the skin against the effects of mustard
gas and lewisite. A sample tablet has been received. To it was
attached a label bearing the inscription Chlorkalkstift D, or Bleach

Pencil D.

This tablet was found, upon analysis, to consist of bleaching powder which had undergone extensive decomposition through

exposure. It would still provide a slight beneficial effect on
contaminated skin, although it is definitely inferior to the

Losantin tablets in bakelite containers provided in German Service
respirators.
4. SLEEPING GASES

There have been numerous reports of sleeping and narcotic
gases, but thus far such gases have been considered impracticable for
use as chemical warfare agents.
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A possible explanation of the origin of these reports has
now been found. The Czechs appear to have used the names of hypnotic
drugs as code names for some of their chemical warfare gases - for

example, sulphonal for mustard gas, and luminal for lewisite. The

fact that bombs and other weapons charged with Czech chemical warfare material have been associated with these code names is possibly
responsible for rumors that the Germans have narcotic gases.

Reports that such gases have put troops out of action for
five to six hours may be connected with the fact that this is the
period required for mustard gas to produce vesication. Some of the
longer periods mentioned - five to seven days - might refer to
estimates
of its persistence or the time required for action through
the
skin.
5. CHEMICAL WARFARE TRAINING OF PARACHUTE TROOPS

Three recent independent reports from good sources have re-

ferred to the training of German parachute troops in the use of gas

or in self defense against it.

The first report stated that parachutists have been issued
a special type of respirator, smaller than the normal. This reference
probably involves the canvas carrier supplied in place of the normal
metal one for the purpose of lessening weight. Samples of these canvas carriers have actually been obtained.
The second report, in describing a large scale parachute exercise in Germany, stated that all personnel descended wearing
respirators.
The third report stated that gas hand grenades were being
issued to parachutists.

In this connection, other reports have told of storage of

gas in lead containers and of emptying gas-charged weapons after the
comparatively short period of 17 months on account of corrasion.
Both these reference suggest a highly corrosive liquid such as the
lachrymator, bromobenzyl cyanide.

It is considered highly probable that parachutists would be
armed with gas grenades which might be filled with tear gas. Grenades

of this type would be silent, quick acting, and useful for surprise
attacks on isolated posts.

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0-2/2657-220

No. 420 M.I.D.,W.D.

12:00 M., June 18, 1941.

SITUATION REPORT

I.

Western Theater

Air: Severe air fighting over the English Channel
during daylight of the 17th.
German. No reports of attacks on Great Britain.

British. Last night the attacks on the Rhine

and Ruhr industrial areas were renewed in force.
II.

Mediterranean and Middle Eastern Theaters

Ground: The British attack toward Tobruk has been

repulsed, and the attacking force is retiring. It is unknown

whether the Axis forces are pursuing.

Air: Air forces of both sides were used in close

support in Libya.

Axis. Night attack on Malta.

British. In Libya, raids on airfields at Derna,

Martuba and Gazala. Bardia was bombed.

III. Syria.
Ground: Slow progress by the invaders toward Damascus

and Beirut. In the north a small allied force is approaching

Aleppo.

Air: Widespread activity by small force.

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Paraphrase of Code Cablegree
Received at the Mar Department

at 14:24, June 18, 1941.

London, filed June 18, 1941.

1. British Air Activity Over the Continent.
a.

Night of Jane 16-17. An meaned number of because operated

over the continent against the following targete: Daisborg, 4,000 four
pound incentiaries, 500 twenty-five pound incondiaries, 48 high explesive
bombs; Cologes, 80 high explosive and 11,000 incondiantee) Desselfort, 90

high explosive 8,800 incondiary bombs. 13 tons of bombe were carried by

one Stirling. (G-2. This statement is questioned. It is believed
that 13,000 pounds of bombs is nearer correct, as that is the approximate
maximum load.)

b. Day of June 17. Bethane was attacked by 23 aircraft of
the bomber command. Fighter protection was furnished during this flight
by 36 Harriennee, giving close oscert and 36 Spitfires operating as high

cover. Strong patrols of fighters earried out patrols along the French
and English eeasts.

e. Night of June 17-18. Bombing in the area of Cherbourg and
Dunkirk and offensive recommissence were accomplished by aircraft of the
constal command.

2. German Air Activity Over Britain.
a. Pay of June 16. Geresay operated over England with 40
parents aircraft, 20 recommissance planes, and 10 long range bembers.

275 fighter aircraft operated on defensive missions over the continent.

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2. Night Jess 16-17. Germany operated against Regiona
with 20 persuit and 30 minolaying aircraft.

g. First Jame 17-18. There was some - activity over the
southwest coast of Regiend - a slight seale.

3. Aircraft Losses Deported.
a

The British report 18 aircraft missing or destroyed.

b.

The extent of German losses is given as 12 NE-109's

destroyed and possible damage to 13 more.
4.

British Air Activities, Other Theaters.

a. Bayotian Theater. Forward troope operating in Dept were
given complete protection free Axis attacks by patrels of Barriesses and

P-40's. In this theater is is reported that 4 were damaged
or destroyed. The harbors at Benghasi, Deran, Materba, Arime, Gasala and
Bardia on the night of June 15th were bombod.
s.

Middle Eastern Theater. In this area objectives were

machine - and bombed on a limited seals and there were some
missions carried out.

5. Axis Air Activity Free Other Territories. None reported.
6. Information received to the effect that British Air Attache
in Washington has explained to the United States Government basic policies

regarding secrety together with reasons for releasing to the public information concerning redio direction finder apparaties.
LEE

Distribution:
Mar Plans Division

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Secretary of War

Office of Naval Intelligence

State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Under Secretary of Mar

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Chief of Staff

Air Corps
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June 19, 1941

I called Oscar Cox at a quarter of eight, and asked

him whether they were making any progress on the English

financial situation. He said that they were. I said that
I was worried because I wanted to keep my word with

Phillips. Cox said, "Well, don't worry about your word.

You have kept it. You have given them at least $400,000,000
worth of relief which they hadn't counted on.' "
I asked Cox what Hopkins' reaction was to Keynes'
memorandum. He said he didn't know, but Hopkins was call-

ing a meeting at ten o'clock this morning to get it started.

I asked him what he thought of Keynes' memorandum, and he

said, "Well, I think Keynes is a very annoying fellow."
I said, "Well, Purvis is coming for me at 8:30 and I was

going to make a suggestion, and I want to know what you

think of it." I said that I am going to suggest that

they form a committee composed of a representative of
Hopkins, a representative of the Treasury, and a representa-

tive of the English, and that they meet at 4:30 every day

and pass on all dollar commitments and see whether they

have to be made in dollars from the British Treasury, or
whether they can go through Lend-Lease. Oscar said, "I

think that's a swell idea. He said, 'I know a lot of

the things that they are buying could go through LendLease. For example, they have a $15,000,000 cash order

for airplanes which could just as well go through LendLease. He said, "They are paying out about $300,000,000
in cash, and I am sure a great deal of it could go through
Lend-Lease.

I told Oscar that it was his letter of yesterday that

started me thinking along these lines.

Then I asked him whether the English were still buying
outside of the Purchasing Commission. He said, "Yes, they

are." I said, "They ought to control that,' and he said,
"They certainly ought to control it. I said I am going to
insist that all purchases clear through the Purchasing

Commission, and then through this committee which will pass

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on the orders each day just the way it was done when we
had them on an allowance of $35,000,000 a week. Oscar
was very enthusiastic about my suggestion.

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June 19, 1941

On my way to down this morning, I explained to
Mr. Purvis my idea of a committee to meet each day

and rule on whether or not England should pay cash for
each individual order, or whether they should come
under Lend-Lease. He was very enthusiastic.

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June 19, 1941
9:07 a.m.

HMJr:

Good morning, Harry.

Harry
Hopkins:

Good morning.

HMJr:

How are you?

H:

Fair.

HMJr:

Well,

H:

Physically better.

HMJr:

Well, I'm glad to hear it.

Harry, I've got a suggestion
which I think would help you
and me. The English as you
know tell us that they are

going to be out of dollars they are talking very blue,

but I'd like

H:

God damn them, they go out

and order a lot of steel,
I notice.

HMJr:

I know. Now, what I'd like

to do is this. I'd like to

have a meeting every day,

I'11 start it in my office

where we'd have somebody

representing Purvis, somebody

representing Phillips and the

unknown man who is the comptroller
of dollar exchange.
H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

That somebody, I hope it would
be Oscar Cox and we go over the

future, never mind the back

stuff and they'd start out by

saying we have 80 many dollars
in the Empire

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H:

HMJr:

Yeah.

Now, we've got so many orders
we want to place and I'm going

to say, well, we want to sit

down with your comptroller of

exchange, whoever he is, and
go over, every time you buy any

dollars, we want to okay it.

H:9

HMJr:

Yeah.

And if it can go through Lend-

Lease, Mr. Cox 18 here representing
Mr. Hopkins, but we want to know

the net position of what your dollar

has accounted every night and not
be told two weeks frod now or 30
days from now that you' re busted.
Now, that would be looking forward,
you see?

H:

Uh nuh.

HMJr:

And it would at least give me
a chance to turn around.

H:

Give you a chance to watch that
dollar exchange without hearing

about it after the cat's out of
the bag.

HMJr:

That's the idea.

H:

I - that's a damn good idea.

HMJr:

Now, I don't know who the dollar the fellow that rune it and I
had Purvis come to the house at
8:30 this morning and he's crazy
about the idea and I said, "Who
is the person?" He said, "Henry,
1 don't know", and he said if you

ask them I think it's going to

bring it to light, but he said,
"I can't control it", but he said,
"If you do this, then we'll know".

What do you think?

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3H:

It's a damn good idea.

HMJr:

Well, if you like it.

H:

And Oscar, of course, would

HMJr:

I'd like to

H:

He could, you know

HMJr:

Pardon?

H:

You trust Oscar and 80 do

be fine..

I.

HMJr:

Oh, sure.

H:

And he can speak for me

and make commitments on my

behalf right there, you see.

He wont have to call me up.
HMJr:

Well, if you like it, I'11

start the first meeting at

3:30 today.
H:

Good.

HMJr:

See? And then

H:

HMJr:

(Laughs) I'm going to be very
interested to hear about the
first meeting.

Well, if you had nothing, would
you..

H:

No, no, I don't want to

HMJr:

What?

H:

HMJr:

No, no, I don't want to go,
It's pure inquisitiveness.
oh, well I mean I'd love to
have you.

106
4H:

I couldn't help any.

HMJr:

What?

H:

I couldn't help any.

HMJr:

You might, you - would
you care to come?

H:

No, I don't think so, Henry.

HMJr:

Anyway, will you send Cox?

H:

You bet I will. Oscar is

coming over this morning to
see me and

HMJr:

And then this back stuff,

we're working like hell to
clean it up, see?

H:

The what?

HMJr:

The back stuff.

H:

Well, I've asked Oscar to
come over to see me this

morning to see if we can't

a hat

here pull this something morning

on
out

of the

back stuff so that we can,

all of us, stop worrying about
it.
HMJr:

H:

Well, if you could it would

take a terrific load off my,...
And I'd like to see if I can't
do that before you meet this
afternoon.

HMJr:
H:

Well, that would be wonderful.

Because I've got a long letter
letter from him.

here from Keyne - a long winded

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-HMJr:

Well, how did you react to

H:

To Keyne's letter?

HMJr:

Yeah.

H:

Not very well.

HMJr:

Me neither. He sent me a copy.

H:

I don't like his style and

that?

approach. My own private
opinion 18 that except from

the point of view of the
British Treasury, he'd just
be well off at home.

HMJr:
H:

HMJr:
H:

You and me, both.

You see, he says he's sent
here on a mission, and his
mission has got to be complete.
Yeah.

Well, God Almighty, seems to
me you might well say, "Well

what in hell is Phillips been

HMJr:

doing here all the time"?
That's right.

H:

And

HMJr:

Well,

H:

I'm just wondering, of course,

I suppose
none
it's of our
business to.

HMJr:
H:

You mean that....

Here's the point about Keyne.
If he hangs around here until
we get mixed up in a new LendLease bill, he 8 apt to pull
some real boners with some of

the people on the Hill or

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something and he'll be telling
us how to write a Lend-Lease bill
and people will get madder than
hell around here about it.
HMJr:

Well, let me make 8 suggestion.
on a cable from Winant.

After all, he came over here
Yeah.

HMJr:
H:

HMJr:

Has Winant gone back yet?

Yeah. I think Winant should
land in England today, I think.
Well, why don't drop a ....

H:

A bee after Winant.

HMJr:

What?

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Why don't you drop a bee....

H:

At Winant, Yeah.

HMJr:

And tell him that he sent him

H:

And we've heard everything

HMJr:

Yeah.

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

over here

That's the way to get him back
home.

H:

I have a feeling that he can't

accomplish much anyway. Don't

you? I mean, he certainly can't
do any more than Phillips can
do.

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-7HMJr:

He can't do any more than

Phillips and he's all over
town holding meetings. One

meeting that I heard of,

quite critical of the President,
see, a meeting that was up at
Frankfurter's and quite critical
of how the President is running
the country and - what?

H:

Uh huh.

HMJr:

So, we have enough troubles.

H:

Yeah, that's right.

HMJr:

We've got enough troubles.

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

H:

Winant is the fellow who can
pull him back.
Yeah, you see now what he's

too.
now
on
doing,
He
moves
me - writes me a letter and
sends you a copy, see?

HMJr:
H:

Yeah.

Well, now - God damn it, if he's
here for the Treasury - the
British Treasury - his business

is to be writing you letters

and sending me copies. You see

what he's going to do, he's

going to move on any front he
thinks he can move on.

HMJr:
H:

That's right.
I don't mind - I mean I don't -

it doesn't bother - I think

I'm over emphasizing the importance

of it.

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No, I don't think

HMJr:

because when I got you it, are I just

said, "God damn it".

H:

Yeah, that's the way I felt

HMJr:

What?

H:

That's just the way I felt

HMJr:

It's just too bad if he's got

H:

I have no doubt that if I'd

about it.

about it.

a or of

to wait 5 weeks.

a note
got
two from line Phillips, note which copy

well a Jam

in substance
now,
we're could
would in have
quiteus
said, and
wish
you
help
Personally, I undoubtedly would
stir my stumpe far more than

getting a six page letter from
Keyne, you see?

Yeah.

HMJr:

We don't have to be motivated
that way. He sort of assumes
that we don't give a damn,

H:

and it just - it irritates me
and I must irritate you more.

Well, 10 sort of puts me in the

HMJr:

feeling as though - well, Morgentnau

really isn't

HMJr:

Doesn't really care about it.
That's the point and after

H:

Lean.

HMJr:

And I imagine it makes you feel

H:

everything that I've been through.

the same way.

,

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-9Yeah, it does. It does. He

H:

comes around here and I've heard
somewhat the same thing about

the other matter, too. They're
very free with his advice and he's one of these fellows that
just
knows all the answers, you
see?

HMJr:

That's right.

H:

And I have a hunch, although,

I don' know it, I have a hunch
he's irritating somebody's a Englishman.

HMJr:
H:

HMJr:

Well.....
He's got a new job, you know.
What's that?

Well, he's working with the

H:

Ambassador on this over all
agreement.

HMJr:

on really.

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Well, that's &

H:

HMJr:

H:

HMJr:
H:

So he may be around you on that,

but that's something else from
this.

Well, as I - Winant could pull
him back.

All right, I'll see if I can't
soon as I hear
And you.

Gill has arrived, I'11 see if
I can't

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And you tell Cox to be here
at 3:30.

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And then - you like the idea.

H:

Yeah, very much.

HMJr:
H:

Thank you.

All right. Goodbye.

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June 19, 1941
9:28 a.m.

HMJr:
Jim

Hello.

Farley:

This is

HMJr:

(Laughs) How are you?

F:

All right.

HMJr:

Good.

F:

How are you? How's your
father?

HMJr:

He's wonderful.

F:

Is he all right?

HMJr:

F:

HMJr:

Both my parents are up at

Bar Harbor.

Oh, is that so? Well, that's
fine.

Jim, I want you to go to work
for me in the State of New York
and head up our Defense Savings

Bonds for the State.

F:

Well, now what do you want me

HMJr:

Well....

F:

And, I'm still on that.

HMJr:

Well, when will that be done?

to do, and when, Henry. I haven't
been able to do - I've been on
this greater New York thing for
60 days and I haven't been able
to do anything else, see?

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-F:

Well, that's going to jam

HMJr:

Well, Jim, this thing of ours

me for at least another month.

is a long time thing, but if

we could see you and explain

it to you and know that you
would head it up, we'11 give
you an organization and everything else.
Well, give me a day on it,
will you?

F:

HMJr:
F:

HMJr:

F:

Sure.

I'll call you back.
I hope you'll do it. I spoke
to the President and he said
he'd like very much to have
you do it.

Well, I'll call you back.
Give me a day or 80 on it.
I'm going - I've got to go

away Monday night, I think,
or Tuesday night down to
Texas and that will take I'll be down maybe a week or
10 days and then when I come

back I'11 have to pick up
the loose ends on this other

thing that I'm trying to get
out of the way, I want - this
to have been out of the

a month
ago,but I've got
way
ought
another month on it.
HMJr:

Well, without trying to crowd
you, could you let me know by
forenoon tomorrow.

F:

Yes, I'11 do that.

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3-HMJr:

Will you?

F:

Yean, I'11 do that.

HMJr:

By forenoon tomorrow.

Well, what would be what would you want -

F:

what is there to it now?

HMJr:

Well, what we want - what
we do with - in each State
we've gone, we've asked the

we up

Governor Chairman and to be then Honorary set

a Committee with a fellow that

will sort of head it up and we

want
and

the people on a, any
every to go community into every without and town get

too high pressure methods to
invest in these defense savings

bonds and

that want to a

give volunteer all these people chance

to go to work, I mean, and help

us.
F:

Between you and me, I couldn't
much time, though,

I don
t want
to - I'm
Henry,
give
very

not trying to dodge anything.

HMJr:

Yeah.

F:

Besides, you know, I've been done since is I've public come service, up here you all I've see?

HMJr:

F:

HMJr:

I see. Well, you are BC well

known in the State - you got
80 many friends that
But I know, you have to give
it direction, you know.

That's right.

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-4F:

HMJr:

F:

HMJr:

I never do anything unless

No it'11 take time, Jim.
It'11 take time.

Well, let me - I'11 talk to
you in the morning.

Yeah. It's a time consumer,
it wont be just something that I don't want you for window
dressing.

F:

Well, I know and I wouldn't want

HMJr:

No.

F:

See?

HMJr:

Yeah.

F:

Well, I'll talk to you in the

to do it for that.

morning.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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June 19, 1941
9:30 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Thompson
Mr. Haas

Mr. Viner
Mr. Foley

Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Blough
Mr. Gaston

Mr. Bell

Mr. Graves

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Cochran
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Odegarde

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

H.M.Jr:

What has happened to Doughton?

Patiently waiting. I think it is just as

well. They talked and talked and talked
and didn't get around to vote.
Just a second. Why didn't you tell me

Mrs. Bell had been operated on?
Bell:

Oh, we didn't want to bother. It came all
of a sudden.

H.M.Jr:

Mrs. Morgenthau felt terrible. When did
it happen?

Bell:

She made up her mind when I was up at the

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-2committee meeting on Saturday, and it was
all arranged when I came back so she went
Friday night and was operated on Saturday

morning, and she is home now. She is fine.
H.M.Jr:
Bell:

Why didn't you tell me?

- Well, I didn't see any reason to.

H.M.Jr:

Mrs. Morgenthau felt terribly. She called
in and --

Bell:

Well, she needn't feel badly, because there
wasn't much anybody could do. She just had

to stay quiet a couple of days.

H.M.Jr:

But it was Saturday?

Bell:

Saturday morning, yes. She made all arrange-

ments when I was up on the Hill. I didn't
know anything about it.

H.M.Jr:

But she is doing nicely

Bell:

Fine, yes.

Sullivan:

They are going to vote this morning on the
income tax rates and the excess profits tax
rates and then they are going to recess
until Monday morning, so we will have time
to get together on the excises.

H.M.Jr:

A little louder, please.

Sullivan:

So there won't be anything doing from whenever
they get through voting today until Monday

morning.
H.M.Jr:

Now, what do you want to report? Is that
all?

Sullivan:

That is the whole story.

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-3H.M.Jr:

Now,
Professor
Blough,
when are you going
to have
something
for me?

Blough:

You mean on the --

H.M.Jr:

Oh, a framework of facts for a speech, facts.

Blough:

I think we will be pretty well out of the

woods on that today, Mr. Secretary. I had
some additional material yesterday.
H.M.Jr:

When
are you going to talk to Kuhn about it,
and me?

Blough:

I can talk with him at any time after the
committee gets through. Noon, we hope.

H.M.Jr:

When will that be?

Blough:

This afternoon.

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Kuhn is available.

Blough:

Fine, excellent.

H.M.Jr:

During the night I got an idea which I think
is a good one, and I have gone to town on it.
It was instigated by a letter which I got
from Oscar in which he is complaining that
we are buying some five hundred twenty-eight
thousand dollars worth of steel which could
go through the Lend-Lease. So I thought if
I could get Purvis and the Treasury and the
great mystery man who controls their dollar

exchange to come here every day and sit down
with us and say, "Now look, we have so much

dollar exchange for the Empire on hand. Now,
this is what we would like to buy today and
this is what we - the commitments we have got
outstanding. How much of this can you clear

through Lend-Lease?" And insist for the first
time, which they have never done, that all

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of it go through Arthur Purvis. And that

we know, so that we are not told two weeks
from now that they have no dollars and that
we get some notice and if they are really

going to run short, that we can put the

pressure on Jesse or somebody else to see

that they can run another two weeks.

I said to Purvis this morning, "If we know
when this doomsday is coming -" well, I
called Oscar this morning and he is crazy
about the idea. He says, "That is wonder-

ful.

I had Purvis at the house at eight-thirty
and he says, "Fine. I said, "I would
like to know who is the man who runs the
exchange." He says, "I don't know who

he is. I don't even know where he is located." And he says, "Like on so many

things that you have done, I think this

will focus it where it belongs."

I said, "Now, I am not interested for the

moment in the dead cats which are behind us.

We will do the best that we can with those,
and Oscar told me that at least four hundred

million dollars worth of relief has been
provided for, at least, and he is coming
here at eleven-thirty this morning, Oscar."
And I said, "I am interested in from now on
what are we going to do to keep the English

going," and I told Purvis that this fellow
Keynes makes me sort of feel as though well, I am the fellow that has sort of got
him in this trouble and the interesting thing
is that I had a long talk with Hopkins this

morning and Hopkins says "this memorandum

from Keynes sort of makes me feel as though
I am not doing my work.

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says, "Why should Keynes write me a letter
anyway? If he wants to write you and then
you send me a copy, that is something else.
But why should he write me six pages complaining because he has been around here

for five weeks. He says, "I wish he would

go home."

So I said, "Well, you can tell Winant that

he sent him over here. Drop something in
Winant's ear to send him home. He says
he is going to, and he is working now with
the Ambassador on the quid pro quo.

Bell:

I think that was a proper letter for Hopkins.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Bell:

I don't see anything wrong with that letter.

White:

I think it is an appropriate letter.

Bell:

It shouldn't have come to you, Mr. Secretary.

Viner:

I thought it was a very good letter. I read
it carefully. Either you want to help them

Hopkins is the proper official with whom he
should take it up.

or you don't. You have to tell them.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I am sick and tired of having British
people come over here.

Viner:

Tell them and don't deal with them, then.

H.M.Jr:

I haven't. I haven't seen the man. I haven't

seen Phillips.
Viner:

That is the trouble.

H.M.Jr:

No it is not the trouble. I am sorry. After

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years for them to send a person over here to
put me in a position as though I wasn't

trying to do everything I can, I say it is

a damn outrage.
Viner:

It is a very generous letter.

H.M.Jr:

I say it is a damn outrage.

Viner:

The letter says, "No country has ever dealt
so generously with another country.

H.M.Jr:

I am sick and tired of publicly holding up

the British hands and then they send somebody
over here and he goes to a meeting and

criticizes the President of the United States
for the way he is running this country. I
say that man should go home. We don't need

any Englishman criticizing the President of
the United States how he is dealing with
his Cabinet and that is what Keynes did.
Viner:

I think that is totally irrelevant.

H.M.Jr:

I am sorry.

White:

I, too, am sorry to see you take that attitude, because I think he has a task. I think
he has tried very, very diligently and very
carefully to accomplish his ends. I think

he has tried to be careful of everybody's
feelings. He hasn't wanted to recede from a

position. I have the feeling that he has

behaved, so far as I know, O.K. with us and

that includes this last letter he sent, in
a way that I believe is above criticism.
Hopkins:

Why should it have exactly the same reaction
on Hopkins?