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98

BRITISH EMBASSY,

PERSONAL
AND SECRET

WASHINGTON, D.C.

7th June, 1941.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the latest
report received from London on the military
situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halifex

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

99

Telegram from London dated 5th June, 1941.

1.

Naval.

During May 3548 tons cargo destined for enemy

seized in prise; total seizures since the beginning
of the war to the end of May 784,759 tons.
2.

During the week ending 11th May importe in

convoy exceeded 1 million tone again.
3.

Ex. Dutch mine-layer Van Meerlant 690 tons

sunk by mine Thomas Estuary a.m. the 4th.
4.

Military. Iraq.
Our troops reached Mosul morning of the 3rd

gained touch with battalion of troope flown from
Habaniyah.

In Bagdad demonstrations included considerable

looting and civilian casualties.
situation restored by 2 Iraqi battalions from
Kirkuk. June 2nd, our troops continued advance N.
West of UR without incident; tribes reported generally

friendly; roads this area bad, flooded, unfit for
mechanical transport. June 3rd, O.C. Iraqi troops
Qurna received orders to cease hostilities and return
peaceably. to stations.
5.

Ethiopia.

In the battle of the Lakes 5772 Italians,
12010 natives, much material including 14 tanks, 7
armoured cars and 86 guns captured. Debareyi twice
changed hands, remained ours. Our troops still having

difficulty crossing the flooded Omo river. Small
bridge-head formed at one place.
6./

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26.

Royal Air Force.

During daylight of the 4th four direct hite
on 5000 ton merchant vessel west of Egersund, 18
bursts observed on the Mole Zeebrugge, 500 ton cargo

vessel hit.
7.

Daylight 4th. Three enemy aircraft destroyed;

3 probably destroyed, 6 damaged. Three Spitfires lost,
1 pilot safe.
8.

Tobruk.

4 enemy aircraft destroyed during attack on

anti-aircraft positions.
9.

Royal Air Force bombed Benghazi night of the

and/3rd June. 3 enemy aircraft destroyed on the ground.
June 3rd. Royal Air Force from Malta attacked
convoy escorted by six destroyers, destroyed one ship
8,000 tone, hitting another 5,000.
10.

11.

Maryland destroyed Italian seaplane on the

water near Cephalonta.
12.

German Air Force.

Enemy daylight operations over the United

Kingdom slight, night of the 4th/5th bombing scattered,
Birmingham, Medway, principal targets; no important
damage. Two bombers destroyed.

101
BRITISH EMBASSY,
PERSONAL

WASHINGTON, D.C.

AND SECRET

7th June, 1941.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the latest
report received from London on the

military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halifax

The Honourable

Colonel F. Knox,

Secretary of the Navy,
Navy Department,

Washington, D.C.

102

Telegram from London dated 5th June, 1941.

1.

Naval.

During May 3548 tons cargo destined for enemy

seized in prime; total seisures since the beginning
of the war to the end of May 784,759 tons.
2.

During the week ending 11th May importe in

convoy exceeded 1 million tone again.
3.

Ex. Dutch mine-layer Van Meorlant 690 tons

sunk by mine Themes Estuary a.m. the 4th.
4.

Military. Irea.
Our troops reached Mosul morning of the 3rd

gained touch with battalion of troops flown from
Habaniyah.

In Bagdad demonstrations included considerable

looting and civilian casualties.
Situation restored by 8 Iraqi battalions from
Kirkuk. June 2nd, our troops continued advance N.

West of UR without incident; tribes reported generally

friendly; roads this area bad, flooded, unfit for
mechanical transport. June 3rd, O.C. Iraqi troops
Gurna received orders to cease hostilities and return
peaceably. to stations.
5.

Ethiopia.

In the battle of the Lakes 5772 Italians,
19010 natives, much material including 14 tanks, 7
amoured cars and 85 guns captured. Debareyi twice
changed hands, remained ours. Our troops still having

difficulty crossing the flooded Omo river. Small
bridge-head formed at one place.
6./

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-26.

Royal Air Force.

During daylight of the 4th four direct hite
on 5000 ton merchant vessel west of Egersund. 12
bursts observed on the Mole Zeebrugge, 500 ton cargo

vessel hit.
7.

Daylight 4th. Three enemy aircraft destroyed;

3 probably destroyed, 6 damaged. Three Spitfires lost,
1 pilot safe.
8.

Tobruk.

4 enemy aircraft destroyed during attack on

anti-aircraft positions.
9.

Royal Air Force bombed Benghazi night of the

2nd/3rd June. 3 enemy aircraft destroyed on the ground.
10.

June 3rd. Royal Air Force from Malta attacked

convoy escorted by six destroyers, destroyed one ship
8,000 tons, hitting another 5,000.
11.

Maryland destroyed Italian seaplane on the

water near Cephalonta.
12.

German Air Force.

Enemy daylight operations over the United

Kingdom slight, night of the 4th/5th bombing scattered,
Birmingham, Medway, principal targets; no important
damage. Two bombers destroyed.

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-26.

Royal Air Force.

During daylight of the 4th four direct hite
on 5000 ton merchant vessel west of Egersund. 12
bursts observed on the Mole Zeebrugge, 500 ton cargo

vessel hit.
7.

Daylight 4th. Three enemy aircraft destroyed;

3 probably destroyed, 6 damaged. Three Spitfires lost,

1 pilot safe.
8.

Tobruk.

4 enemy aircraft destroyed during attack on

anti-aircraft positions.
9.

Royal Air Force bombed Benghazi night of the

2nd/3rd June. 3 enemy aircraft destroyed on the ground.
10.

June 3rd. Royal Air Force from Malta attacked

convoy escorted by six destroyers, destroyed one ship
8,000 tons, hitting another 5,000.
11.

Maryland destroyed Italian seaplane on the

water near Cephalonta.
12.

German Air Force.

Enemy daylight operations over the United

Kingdom slight, night of the 4th/5th bombing scattered,
Birmingham, Medway, principal targets; no important
damage. Two bombers destroyed.

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RESTRICTED

G-2/2657-220; No. 411 M.I.D., W.D.

12:00 M.,

June 7, 1941

SITUATION REPORT

I. Western Theater.

Air: German. Minor attacks on the English
Channel coast.

Fritish. Paids around Calais.
II. Mediterranean and African Theaters.

Ground: North Africa. Slight artillery and

patrol activity reported.

East Africa. British forces advancing
on Jimma (Gimma) in southwest Ethiopia have crossed the
river Omo and occupied Abalti,

Air: Axis attacks on Tobruk and Malta.

RESTRICTED

104

RESTRICTED

G-2/2657-220; No. 411 M.I.D., W.D.

12:00 N.,

June 7, 1941

SITUATION REPORT

I. Western Theater.

Air: German. Minor attacks on the English

Channel coast.

Fritish. Paids around Calais.
II. Mediterranean and African Theaters.

Ground: North Africa, Slight artillery and

patrol activity reported.

East Africa, British forces advancing
on Jimma (Gimma) in southwest Ethiopia have crossed the
river Omo and occupied Abalti.

Air: Axis attacks on Tobruk and Malta,

RESTRICTED

CONFIDENTIAL

105

Paraphrase of Code Cablegram

Received at the War Department

at 11:37, June 7, 1941
London, filed 16:50, June 7, 1941.

1. British Air Activity ever the Continent
a. Day of May 6. Royal Air Force activity was on a small
scale. Shipping was unsuccessfully attacked off Cherbourg.

b. Night of June 5-6. No planes were dispatched during
this night.

2. German Air Activity over Britain
a. Night of June 6-7. - German operations were unimportant. Principle targets were shipping around North Scotland,
the Straits of Dover, Bristol Channel, and Lands End. In the
south of England ten planes made scattered appearances along the
coast.

b. Day of June 6. The only German activity reported was
a single plane which made extensive reconnaissance around London
and the Midlands.
e.

Night of June 5-6. The member of planes involved

in the previously reported operations is now established as thirty
long range bombers.

d. Day of June 5. The number of planes involved in the
previously reported operations are now set at fifteen reconnissance
planes and an equal number of long range bombers.

3. Aircraft Losses. British Theater.
No losses of any kind were reported.

CONFIDENTIAL

INFORMATION COPY

CONFIDENTIAT

106

4. British Air Activity. Other Theaters.
a.

Middle East Theater. The Royal Air Force engaged

in successful bombing and reconnaissance activity on a small scale
throughout this theater.
LEE

Distribution

Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Under Secretary of War

Chief of Staff
Assistant Chief of Staff, 0-2

War Plans Division

Office of Naval Intelligence
Air Corps

Assistant Chief of Staff, G-3

-CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL

107

of Date adidas
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direct hite - - 5,000-000 vessale off Total and another off American.
No please were disposition from Great

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and their air force - maily complet with stao laying off the - of
Borth Sections, Motions, Bever and - - also valida - chipping

is the I area.
s name IS to now established that the number of
- please Involved in the quertously separated attack - this date

involved 25 long - bachere and 10 - please.

s. the number of please involved - this
sight were " - (close mage bembers ") and 10 also loging aircraft.

5. Leases British Baster.
No Lessee of - kind reported.

CONFIDENTIAL

INFORMATION COPY

CONFIDENTIAL

108

4. Ats Activity - mass - Daring the w or Jaso 6, the Regular
AIF Force continued mell booking wide and - nights out this Member.

5. Ania Air Activity
a. Berthian States. During the day of - T - sight of
June 6-7, 28 Amte please note valda as regular intervils - Maite. the
attachs centered on airporte.

Distribution:
Secretary of Mar
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Union Secretary of Year

Shief of Staff
Assistant Chief of Staff, 0-8
May Plans Division

Office of Nevel Intelligence

Air Gorge
6-3

CONFIDENTIAL

-

109
BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

PERSONAL AND

June 8th, 1941

SECRET

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a

copy of the latest report received
from London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

have Bather

The Honourable,

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

TELEGRAM RECEIVED FROM LONDON

DATED JUNE 4th. 1941

110

NAVAL

Photographic reconnaissance shows

German battleaME Tirpits has left Kiel.
2.
4th/5th. Prins Eugen and Battle cruisers
sighted Brest.
3.

Daylight of 3rd in territorial waters

outside Sfax harbour one enemy merchant vessel

of 8,000 tons hit by four bombs blew up, ships
in the same convoy damaged by falling debris.

June 2nd/3rd second ship hit with four bombs.
4.

A.M. June 3rd, Dutch merchant vessel

torpedoed about 500 miles off the Azores.
5.

Military. Egypt. No change.
Second reconnaissance reported 24 enemy

medium tanks approaching Halfa from the west.
6.

Abyssinia.
Enemy have withdrawn from the bridges

over the Romo but are keeping them under artillery

fire. General Palermo and remants of the Italian
24th Division 10 miles South West of Soddu have

refused to surrender.
7.
Iraq. Our column arrived at Mosul.
8.

Royal Air Force.

Night of 2nd/3rd. 127 tons of H.E. and
13,000 incendiaries dropped on Dusseldorf, both

here, and at Duisburg large fires started further
results not observed owing to bad weather. Over

Berlin conditions better although objectives

difficult to locate owing to searchlights, large
fires caused.

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9.

3rd. During the daylight sorties over

the French coast, enemy column with transport
machine gunned, trawler sunk off Dunkirk direct

hits soored on aeroplane factory at Havre.
10.

German Air Force.

June Srd/sth. About 120 enemy aircraft

plotted. 2 destroyed.
11.

Libya. Tobruk June 2nd.

30 hostile aircraft attacked anti-aircraft positions. Three destroyed.
12.

Syria. June 2nd.
A monoplane believed French attacked a

company constructing road on Trans-Jorden side

on Syrian frontier.

112

June 9, 1941
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

From: Mr. Blough
On Saturday, June 7, about 8 p.m. Washington

time, you called me on the telephone and indicated
that you wished to have a comparison made of the
volume of business, net profits and Federal taxes
of certain groups of corporations, for the base
period years 1936 through 1939 and the year 1940.

The groups of corporations were to include corporations engaged in shipbuilding, construction of
airplane engines and other war orders, and also

industries not engaged in filling defense contracts.
You mentioned the profits figures published in the
monthly bulletin of the National City Bank as an

example of what you had in mind and asked that these

figures be examined as a first step.

I indicated that earlier in the year we had

done some work of this kind for specific corporations.
You said that at this time your purpose was not to
compare specific corporations but groups of corporations so that the figures could be made public. You
said one of your purposes was to give out figures on
different groups of corporations at successive press
conferences.

In response to a question, I said I thought the
and constituted a larger proportion If net profits in
1940 than in the previous years but that for most
industries the corporations would have more profits
left after taxes in 1940 than in such previous years.

figures would show that the Federal taxes had increased

You indicated that no work should be started at
the office on this assignment until Monday, June 9,

and asked me to submit for your diary a memorandum of
the telephone conversation.

RB

113
Corporation net income after Federal income and excess profits taxes,
1940. compared with average 1936 - 1939. by industrial groups 1

For corporations for which excess profits tax returns are available
(Money figures in thousands of dollars)
:

of

Net income after Federal income

and excess profit taxes 1/

: Average

:Percent increase

:

:

:

:
:

Industrial group

Number

:corporations: 1936 - : 1940 :1940 over average
:
26

:

Construction:
General contractors

:

: 1939

1936 - 1939

3,963

4,869

961

606

- 36.9

4,036

19,078

372.7

766

1,890

146.7

7,906

9,445

19.5

489

794

62.4

300

455

51.7

4,345

5,157

18.7

296

813

174.7

596

732

22.8

23

8,989

9,478

5.4

14

2,136

4,312

101.9

18

2,684

3,277

22.1

1,373

1,671

21.7

5,099
17,447
12,240

6,538
17,672
18,184

28.2

48.6

236

514

117.8

575

607

5.6

6,006
14,533

13,444
9,092

123.8

- 37.4

219

311

42.0

Special trade contractors

7

Manufacturing:

Aircraft and parts
Automobiles and trucks, including

5

bodies and industrial trailers

6

22.9%

Automobile parts and accessories

(except electrical) and trail-

ers for passenger cars

20

Electrical machinery
Communication equipment and
phonographs

4

Electrical appliances
Electrical equipment for public

utilities, manufacturing, etc.

4

23

Other electrical machinery
equipment and supplies

5

Electrical machinery not
allocable

Industrial chemicals (except
plastic materials)

3

Iron and steel:

Blast furnaces, steel works

and rolling mills
Outlery, tools (except machine
tools) and general hardware
Fabricated structural steel and
ornamental metal works
Heating apparatus (except

9

electrical) and plumbers'
supplies

Tin cana and other tinware
and steel products
Other Iron iron
and steel products not

30
5

104

allocable

4

1.3

Locomotives, transit cars and
equipment

2

Metal working machinery, including machine tools
Petroleum refining

43

11

Ship and boat building and
repairing

1

Treasury Department. Division of Tax Research

June 16, 1941

1 Excess profits taxes include declared value excess profits tax as well AS the
excess profits tax under the 1940 Act.

114

Corporation profits and Federal income and profits taxes, 1940, compared with average 1936-1939. by industrial groups

For corporations for which excess profits tax returns are available
(Money figures in thousands of dollars)
1

:

corpo-

Average

:

rations

1936-1939

1940

screase 1940:
Average
over ever-1
1936-1939
age 1936-

screase 1940

screase 1940:

1940

Average
: over even-1
1936-1939

1940

: age 1936-

: age 1936-

: 1939

:

1939

: over aver:

:

of

:

1

Industrial group

Number

:Net income before Federal income:Federal income and excess prof- Net income after Federal income and
excess profits taxes 1
and excess profits taxes 1/
its taxes 1/
:Percent in
:Percent
in-1
:Percent in-1

1939

:

Constructions

General contractors

26

Special trade contractors

4,869

15.8

961

606

- 36.9

6,779

1,004.1

4,036

19,078

372.7

238

965

305.5

766

1,890

146.7

51.7

1,546

4,891

216.4

7,906

9,445

19.5

1,101

80.8

120

307

489

794

376

660

75.5

76

205

155.8
169.7

300

455

62.4
51.7

5,390

7,354

36.4

1,045

2,197

110.2

4.345

5,157

18.7

397

1,107

178.8

101

294

191.1

296

813

174.7

719

1,008

40.2

123

276

124.4

596

732

22.8

6,001

1,189

799

4,650

26.2%

794

1,132

- 32.8

228

192

25,857

456.1

614

1,004

2,855

184.4

9,452

14,336

4

609

4

7

22.9%

3,963

4.757

42.6%

Manufacturing

Aircraft and parts

5

Automobiles & trucks, including

bodies & industrial trailers

6

Automobile parts & accessories

(except electrical) & trailers for
passenger care

20

Electrical machinery:
Communication equipment and
phonographs

Electrical appliances

Electrical equipment for public

utilities, manufacturing, etc.

23

Other electrical machinery
equipment and supplies

5

Electrical machinery not
allocable
Industrial chemicals (except

3

plastic materials

23

10,636

13,047

22.7

1,648

3.570

116.6

8,989

9.478

5.4

rolling mills

14

2,633

6,564

149.3

497

2,251

352.9

2,136

4,312

101.9

18

3,195

4,417

38.2

511

1,140

123.1

2,684

3,277

22.1

1,685

2,338

38.8

311

668

114.8

1,373

1,671

21.7

6,184
20,976
15,025

9.348
24,609
27,082

51.2
86.2

1,084
3,529
2,785

2,810
6.937
8,898

159.2
96.6
219.5

5,099
17,447
12,240

6,538
17,672
18,184

28.2
1.3
48.6

4

323

732

126.6

87

218

150.6

236

514

117.8

2

702

863

22.9

127

255

100.8

575

607

5.6

43

7,438

- 32.7

1,432
1,245

10,064
1,520

602.8

15,778

23,508
10,612

216.1

11

22.1

6,006
14,533

13,444
9,092

- 37.4

263

477

81.4

44

165

275.0

219

311

42.0

Iron and steel:
Blast furnaces, steel works and

Outlery, tools (except machine
tools) and general hardware

Fabricated structural steel &

ornamental metal works
Heating apparatus (except eleo-

trical) & plumbers' supplies
Tin cans & other timere

Other iron & steel products
Iron and steel products not

9

30
5

104

allocable

Locomotives, transit cars and
equipment

Metal-working
machinery, including
machine tools
Petroleum refining
Ship & boat building & repairing

1

17.3

Treasury Department, Division of Tax Research

1 Excess profits taxes include declared value excess profits tax as well as the excess profits tax under the 1940 Act.

123.8

June 16. 1941

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June 9, 1941
9:30 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Foley

Mr. Cochran
Mr. Graves
Mr. Odegarde
Mr. Gaston
Mr. Haas
Mr. Thompson
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. White

Mr. Bell
Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

I only bothered White and Blough over the

week-end, that was all. I didn't call
anybody else. That is pretty good.

For heaven's sake, who brought you (Odegarde)
in Monday morning?
Odegarde:

I forgot to go home.

H.M.Jr:

Too hot to go home?

Odegarde:

I forgot to go home.

Graves:

He is a regular hand now.

H.M.Jr:

Is he?

116

-2Graves:

He is a full time hand.

H.M.Jr:

Does he belong to the CIO?

Graves:

I don't know which branch.

H.M.Jr:

Well, who wants to see me the least or the
worst this morning?

Bell:

We ought to discuss that State Department

memorandum.

H.M.Jr:

That bores me.

Bell:

It bores me, too, but then I think it has
got to be done. I think you and the Secretary
of State ought to see the President. They

go up tomorrow, and they want to mention some-

thing about it.

H.M.Jr:

How long are you going to be here today,
Peter?

Odegarde:

I will be here all day.

Bell:

Well, Bell, if I see you at ten-thirty?
That is all right.

H.M.Jr:

And then are you (Kuhn) ready?

Kuhn:

I have a speech, yes.

H.M.Jr:

Eleven o'clock?

Kuhn:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

Do you like it?

Kuhn:

I will leave that to you.

H.M.Jr:

117

-3H.M.Jr:

Is Odegarde coming in, too?

Kuhn:

At eleven? Yes. He has seen it.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, he has seen it?

Kuhn:

I would like to have him here.

H.M.Jr:

Would you please?

Odegarde:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that takes care of the morning. I

White:

At your convenience.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, when will you be ready on that? I
can't hear. My ears are all stopped.

White:

This afternoon would be preferable.

H.M.Jr:

About three-thirty?

White:

That will be fine.

can't do anything else besides that. When
am I going to get together with you, Harry?

Dan, when is the hour on this Hopkins stuff?
Bell:

Whenever you are ready.

White:

Let's make it eleven-thirty.

H.M.Jr:

Harry, if you stay behind a minute, I would
like to talk to you and Mrs. Klotz a minute
right afterward, please.

I personally picked sixty-three crates of
strawberries yesterday.

Sullivan:

Crates?

118

-4White:

You mean you picked them up?

Blough:

Crates?

H.M.Jr:

The pickings are good. I mean, the price

is high so I didn't bring any down. Next

week I expect the prices will be low, and

I will bring you all some. They are bringing
seventeen and eighteen cents a quart and I

can't afford to give them around now. (Laughter)
Herbert?
Gaston:

Mr. Maxwell caused to be introduced last week

a very interesting bill in the House of

Representatives to provide for a license for

everybody who deals in war materials or supplies that can be made into war materials.

It establishes additional control by Executive
Order over the mails, over air carriers. It
doesn't mention the Administrator of Export

Control, but since it originates in his shop,
apparently he has some intentions in that
direction.

I - we are trying to find out whether it was
ever approved by any of the other agencies
of the Government, the State Department or
the Budget.
H.M.Jr:

Do you want to ask the Budget whether they
approved it?

Gaston:

Did you yet?

Foley:

Yes. Apparently not. When Maxwell was down
before the Committee, Faddis asked him if he
had all the powers he needed, and he said no;

so he pulled the bill out of his pocket and
handed it to Faddis and Faddis introduced it.
Apparently that is the genesis of it. We have
been asked for a report by the Budget and we will --

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-5Gaston:

You have been asked for a report?

Foley:

Oh yes, we got that request for a report.

Justice
doesn't seem to know anything about
it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, why should I worry about it?

Gaston:

Nothing
to worry about. It is just interesting
information.

H.M.Jr:

Herbert --

Gaston:

He is covering an awful lot of territory.

H.M.Jr:

That information you sent me about certain
increased activities of Secret Service?

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to be kept posted on it.

Gaston:

All right, yes. Then also for your information,

Maxwell has an Executive Order pending which

would prohibit transactions with Germany, Italy,
or any country controlled by them or a citizen
of or domiciled in those countries and prohibit collaboration with them.
The Administrator of Export Control is to

determine what country or areas are under

their control.

Another feature of it is that residue cargo
that comes into our ports to be subject to
export control.
H.M.Jr:

I expect the telephone to ring any minute
from Cordell Hull.
"What do you mean by giving all that information
to Kintner and Alsop? Did you see the one
yesterday?

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H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Did you see it? Get it, the one that is
yesterday. So I will say, "Well, I haven't
talked to them for three months. I haven't

either. It is terrible.

Bell:

He had one this morning, too.

Foley:

Did you see the one this morning?

Gaston:

It says that an American destroyer dropped
depth charges on a German submarine.

H.M.Jr:

They must have got that from Frank Knox or
somebody.

Schwarz:

The Navy has been sitting on that story for

more than a month.

Foley:

They are going to wind up their column.

H.M.Jr:

I imagine at the speed at which they are going

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

They take a dig at everybody.

Klotz:

What are they going to do?

H.M.Jr:

One is going to the Army and one for the Navy.

Foley:

Joe has been accepted for the Navy. Bob says
he was examined pretty thoroughly out at
Walter Reed and everybody assures him that

that they are going to wind up. (Laughter)

he is O.K. but that he hasn't actually been

cleared officially yet.

H.M.Jr:

Who is that?

Foley:

Kintner. He is the one for the Army. They

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-7are both going into Intelligence. Joe won't
be here. He will go out around the country
but Bob expects to be located here.

Gaston:

Justice Department is now keenly interested
in Coast Guard acquiring the Bureau of Marine
Inspection and Navigation. Sam Smith of Justice
has been buzzing around about it. That is

also for your information.

The Danish Minister is coming in this morning

to try to dicker on the training ship Danmark.

H.M.Jr:

What does he want it for, a summer residence?

Gaston:

No, no, Waesche wants to buy the training
ship Danmark for the Coast Guard. You remember
the President - they made an informal - had

a sort of an informal agreement on the price.

The President says it is too high. All I can
do is tell them I will see what I can do.
H.M.Jr:

Anything else, Herbert?

Gaston:

Waesche succeeded in arriving at a compromise
with the Navy people on those anchorage regu-

lations 80 they won't press their bill, but
will agree to another one that we agreed to
in the first place.

H.M.Jr:

All right?

Gaston:

Yes. We are still holding some French ships,
awaiting the decision of the State Department.

H.M.Jr:
Gaston:

Who gets the French wines on the Normandie?

Well, I think the Maritime Commission will

get those if they requisition the boat.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got Coast Guard guards on them

now? (Laughter)

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-7are both going into Intelligence. Joe won't

be here. He will go out around the country
but Bob expects to be located here.
Gaston:

Justice Department is now keenly interested
in Coast Guard acquiring the Bureau of Marine
Inspection and Navigation. Sam Smith of Justice

has been buzzing around about it. That is
also for your information.

The Danish Minister is coming in this morning

to try to dicker on the training ship Danmark.

H.M.Jr:

What does he want it for, a summer residence?

Gaston:

No, no, Waesche wants to buy the training
ship Danmark for the Coast Guard. You remember
the President - they made an informal - had

a sort of an informal agreement on the price.

The President says it is too high. All I can
do is tell them I will see what I can do.
H.M.Jr:

Anything else, Herbert?

Gaston:

Waesche succeeded in arriving at a compromise
with the Navy people on those anchorage regu-

lations so they won't press their bill, but

will agree to another one that we agreed to

in the first place.

H.M.Jr:

All right?

Gaston:

Yes. We are still holding some French ships,
awaiting the decision of the State Department.

H.M.Jr:

Who gets the French wines on the Normandie?

Gaston:

Well, I think the Maritime Commission will
get thos e if they requisition the boat.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got Coast Guard guards on them
now? (Laughter)

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I don't know whether there will be any.

Bell:

Any left?

Gaston:

The French Line, of course, will have the wines
and they will have to keep them or import them.
Or? (Facetiously)

H.M.Jr:

Are there Coast Guard men on there now?
Gaston:

I understand they have been very generous.
I haven't been aboard.

H.M.Jr:

All right.
Ed?

Foley:

We got clearance from ASCAP on our song, so

H.M.Jr:

When do we put on the show, showman? I am

Graves:

Mr. Kuhn is running the show.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Kuhn:

Would you like to have a show? In the building?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I thought you wanted to launch it.

Kuhn:

Well, they tell me that that is difficult, that

I think we are all right.
looking at --

if you want to do it right you have to have a
band, and it would be better not to have any
at all than to have the wong kind of thing.
There could be a little one here in the building.

H.M.Jr:

A little band?

Kuhn:

With a piano and a little presentation, if you
want one, but I don't think it is necessary.

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will be down here tomorrow afternoon. He
is having dinner at the White House. He

might be able to stop in late in the afternoon
and just present this to you.
H.M.Jr:

I don't care. I thought that you wanted to
for his sake. Where will it be played first
and all that?

Kuhn:

It will probably be played first on the air

H.M.Jr:

Well, you handle it. I mean, I am not going
to --

Kuhn:

My suggestion is not to have a show, simply
to have a simple presentation of the thing and

and also have a movie made.

you thank him for it and then leave it to the

Defense Savings people to put it on in whatever

way they want. Is that all right with you?
H.M.Jr:

Sure. But if you want a band, I can get you
a band easy enough. That, you know, takes

quite awhile, to orchestrate it.

Kuhn:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

But I will leave it with you.
I called up Roy Blough and - has he told you
what I want?

Sullivan:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

I want to tell the crowd. I want Roy Blough
to give me - and then after we get it - some
of us will get together and talk about it, but
I want to take the different industries, both
defense and non-defense, and I told them for
a better grouping to use the grouping of the
National City Bank - because airplanes are up,

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let's take the airplane industry - and go

back to '36 through '40, how much money did
they make or lose in each year and how much

taxes did they pay. I can announce publicly

what the result is, the total as a group,
you see.

Sullivan:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

And the thought that I had in mind is twice a
week - I mean, have a group for each of my
press conferences and at every press conference
I would announce, "Well now, here is another

group. This is what the situation is," and

keep pounding and pounding and pounding until
I get somewhere.

Every time simply give it out. "Here is from

'36, gentlemen, each year through until '40.
There are ten airplane companies. This is
what their profits and losses have been as a
group and this is what they paid in '40."

And take the packing industry and the automobile

industry and the steel industry and do one right
after another.

Foley:

Insurance companies?

H.M.Jr:

Sugar Companies?

Foley:

Insurance companies.

H.M.Jr:

Insurance companies, different ones.

Foley:

They don't pay any taxes at all.

H.M.Jr:

And just go through it. Twice a week have a
different group.
And then I want you to find out, Chick- I mean,

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I want to see the stuff and then we will have
a talk about it - I want you to work up a
form with Callahan on the radio so that this
thing would be prepared and a telegram would

go to every radio station giving them this
stuff, because I won't get any breaks in the
newspapers but I might over the air. The
newspapers may not carry it at all.
White:

I think it is a good idea, but I think it

H.M.Jr:

Don't worry. I would like at least a half

Sullivan:

Yes, I think that is very desirable.
I would like a half dozen industries to see

H.M.Jr:

would be desirable to have laid out before
you before you give the first announcement, at
least three, four, or five announcements in
advance so you will know whether it is going
to show what you think.
dozen industries.

where I am leaping, but when we get them we

will have a little round table talk, but I

would like to push on that. Will you please?

Blough:

H.M.Jr:

It will take a little time.
I am going to give Mr. Roosevelt the first
opportunity to see whether he wants to do it.

I am going to put it on his table first and
say, Would you like to do it, would you like
to give a speech on it?"

He may say, "Oh no, I wouldn't deprive you

of that pleasure." But I am not going to sit
in this chair - and Roy, if you don't know
this economist for the CIO, I wish you would

get acquainted with him. I will tell you

how you can get his name. Ask Stephens who
the man was who accompanied Phil Murray when

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White:

I know the fellow.

H.M.Jr:

You know him?

White:

Yes.

Blough:

What is his name?

White:

Metzler.

H.M.Jr:

He has been writing that tax stuff for their

monthly bulletin.

Sullivan:

It has been very good.

H.M.Jr:
White:

See? He is a very attractive fellow anyway.
He is a nice fellow.

H.M.Jr:

I don't hear you.

White:

He is a very nice fellow.

H.M.Jr:

He is a very attractive fellow. I met him
two years ago out at dinner. But he has been
writing that stuff for the bulletin and you
may find that the A. F. of L. has a tax man
also. I don't know him, but this man is a do you know him, Harry?

White:

This man is in charge of their bulletin, the

man that I am speaking of. I don't know the
A. F. of L. man.
H.M.Jr:

A very attractive fellow about thirty.

White:

The CIO fellow?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. What is his name?

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Metzler.

H.M.Jr:

Before we do anything we will sit down.

Because I will also give the President the
first chance and Doughton the second.

Sullivan:

Well, I guess you will make the speech.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Sullivan:

They are having some difficulty in -You will have to talk louder. I have never

H.M.Jr:

had my ears stopped up so badly.
Sullivan:

They are having difficulty in the Collector's
office in Hawaii. There are thirty-nine em-

ployees there and eleven of them are eligible
for induction into the service. They have had
one or two vacancies that they haven't been
able to replace because there is absolutely
no unemployment in the Island and the Collector

has written to Commissioner Helvering asking

that his eleven men not be subject to induction
for one year and Helvering has recommended that

that be - that deferment be granted for one year.
He says they just can't get anybody out there
to take the place of these men.
H.M.Jr:

How many men?

Sullivan:

There are eleven who are subject to the draft
out of the thirty-nine. This comes up on one
man being ordered to report, but they are
looking --

H.M.Jr:

What do you mean, they can't get any men.

Sullivan:

They say that there is no unemployment, that
they can't get anybody of the standing of a

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deputy collector that they are -H.M.Jr:

Can't we ship them out from here?

Sullivan:

The only thing that we can do that I can see
is pick up some boys in California and send
them out there.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I won't approve it.

Sullivan:

All right. I will suggest that they get some
fellows in California and send them out.

H.M.Jr:

I am sorry, I won't approve it.

Sullivan:

The tax bill took a different turn Friday.

Of course, the complaint all along has been
that we were -H.M.Jr:

You have got to talk up.

Sullivan:

The complaint has been all along that we were

taxing too high in the lowest brackets. Of

course, the percentage of increase was high,
although the actual amount of dollars to be

paid was low.

So Friday afternoon we presented a chart showing

what people in every bracket, starting at six

hundred dollars, pay under the present law,
under the new Canadian law, the new British
law, then ours, then Stam's and then Eccles'
And having our column next to the British, I
think we overdid the job, because although they
have been writing me for having them 80 high,

when we came in Saturday morning they got

after me for having them so low and wanted

to know if I didn't realize there was an
emergency on.

Well, it wound up Saturday noontime by their

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- 15 asking us if we could work out some kind of
a special tax that would go down as low as
six hundred dollars, seven hundred dollars
on single people, and sixteen hundred dollars

on married people.

Now, I feel very strongly that we are down
as low as we can go on single people. Anybody
who earns around sixteen dollars a week has
to pay a tax now. Anybody earning fifteen

dollars and a half has to file a return and
with - facing the probable increase in the
cost of living and realizing that people in
those brackets pay a larger proportion of
their income in other kinds of taxes, I don't
think it is safe to go below that.

H.M.Jr:

I agree with you with one proviso.
If you could find a way legally that everybody
should pay ten dollars a year - don't shake
your head. I mean, you can't do it legally?

Sullivan:

Well, go ahead and finish.

H.M.Jr:

That is all. What is the present bracket?

Sullivan:

Eight hundred on single people.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, but they don't pay it. They don't pay
anything on the exemptions.

Sullivan:

What do you mean, they don't pay anything?

H.M.Jr:

How many people in the eight hundred dollar
class pay?

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They don't pay anything until they are above
eight hundred dollars.

H.M.Jr:

Then how much do they pay?

Sullivan:

Under this proposal they would start in --

H.M.Jr:

No, but now. Supposing they earned eight

Gaston:

Four percent.

Sullivan:

Four and four tenths percent.

Blough:

hundred fifty.

They would have to earn eight hundred ninety
dollars before they would pay any tax, because
of the earned income tax.

H.M.Jr:

Then how much do they pay?

Blough:

Four percent, so that you would get the
ten dollars by the time they had four hundred -

no, two hundred fifty. By the time they had
two hundred fifty dollars taxable, they would
have ten dollars of tax under the present law.
But under the proposed law, it starts right
at eight hundred and there would be eleven
percent right away surtax and four percent
normal tax.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I haven't got the time, but I would be
very glad to sit down with you any time
today.

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I feel that in that bracket they are taxed
plenty.

But as I say, if there could be a flat tax
of ten dollars starting on everybody that
earns eight hundred dollars.

Sullivan:

Well, I will go into that and then talk it
out with you.

What I wanted to clear with you this morning
is, the sentiment in the Committee is so
strong now, and I think the Republicans are
unanimous in driving this down as far as
they can.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Sullivan:

I think that if there is to be a reduction,

H.M.Jr:

Well, I am perfectly willing to take a

it should be in the married people.

public stand that the broadening of the
base should be on the corporations that
are making excess profits, and we shouldn't
broaden the base on the poor working man.

Sullivan:

That is right.
Now, I think I may be able to make a trade
on this thing by leaving the single people
where they are and reducing the married
people from two thousand to eighteen
hundred.

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- 18 H.M.Jr:

I personally would keep out of it. Why
do we have to get in on it? Keep your record
clean so we can attack them if we want to.

Sullivan:

Well, I just wanted you to know that is the
situation.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I would keep out of it.

Sullivan:

You mean just stand pat against any kind of
a reduction in the personal exemptions?

H.M.Jr:

Unless you can get a flat tax. I can't do

it in three minutes. When do you go up there?

Sullivan:

Ten o'clock. I have got to leave now.

H.M.Jr:

Why don't you just stand on the sidelines?
I would stand on the sidelines and see what
has happened so that my hands will be free.
I can say, "Well, we had no part in this. If
I mean, if you come out with a tremendous
increase on the very poor person with no

excess profits, I want to be in the position
that the President and I can slam them. So

just stand by, will you?

Sullivan:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

So that either the President or I can attack

Sullivan:

this. "Well, you participated in this thing.'
Well, I will say that we are standing by the
present exemptions.

H.M.Jr:

That is all right. Do you agree on that Roy?

Blough:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Don't say you do unless you do.

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Blough:

I do think we might go down a little on the
married exemptions, but it is something that
ought to be talked out and, for the time
being, it can stand.

H.M.Jr:

I would rather stand by, and it would leave
me free, than to take part in this discussion
up there, John.

Sullivan:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

Is that all right with you?

Sullivan:

Sure. I just wanted you to know the situation.

H.M.Jr:

I may want to slam them, and I don't want you
to say that you are committed.

Sullivan:

No, I am not committed.

H.M.Jr:

Then just stand by, will you?

Sullivan:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

Merle?

Cochran:

Phillips wanted to bring Sir Edward Peacock

in today or tomorrow, and I told him it wasn't

possible today. Could you see him tomorrow?
H.M.Jr:

Yes. Give them three fifteen tomorrow.

Cochran:

Yes, sir.

That transaction is held up until after you

have seen him.
H.M.Jr:

Bell:

It is all right.
Will that be discussed, the thread company?

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Yes.

Bell:

Will that dispose of that letter?

Cochran:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

What else?

Cochran:

That is all.

Blough:

I was in touch with--

H.M.Jr:

You have got to talk up louder.

Blough:

I was in touch with Douglas Brown.

H.M.Jr:

Oh yes.

Blough:

He is now in Lubin's job in the OPM since
Lubin went over to the President to advise him
on statistics. He is very much worried about

the labor supply situation in the skilled the skilled labor supply situation, especially
in metal work, and he feels that by fall it

will be necessary to take a great deal of labor

out of civilian industry and put it into

defense industry, and he thinks that we ought
to be very seriously - or somebody in Washington ought to be very seriously considering
how to do that.
H.M.Jr:

There are two men in this room that we think
we have got the answer. One is White and the

other is myself.

Blough:

H.M.Jr:

Blough:

Fine.

But it is good to know that Brown is working
on that. I mean, Harry might want to contact
him.
Then he says one other thing. If these people

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are taken out of the civilian industries or
whether they are or not, the purchasing

power among the defense workers as compared

to the goods which are going to be available

will, in his opinion, mean a surplus of
purchases by them of things they shouldn't
in this time be buying, and he feels that

we ought to have the dismissal wage taken very

seriously in this time with an increase in
Social Security tax rates now than to provide

a dismissal wage at the end of the emergency.
H.M.Jr:

Could you and Professor Brown,on those two

subjects, to a summary for me? I mean boil

it right down, what it is all about, you and

Brown, and give it to me?
Blough:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

I don't mean on the unskilled - the lack of
skilled labor.

Blough:

On this dismissal compensation item?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. Could you and Brown do me a summary on
that?

Blough:

Surely.

Bell:

Doesn't that tie in,Roy, with Altmeyer's
recommendations on the Social Security?

Blough:

Not at the moment, but I asked Brown about
Altmeyer's position on dismissal compensation,
and he said he thought he was coming around

and favor it, so he might by this time favor

it. I thought I would call Altmeyer and find
out.

H.M.Jr:

What is Brown doing over there at OPM?

Blough:

He is doing the work that Lubin was doing.

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What is that?

White:

He took Lubin's place as labor adviser.

H.M.Jr:

Oh. What else, Roy?

Blough:

That is all I have.

H.M.Jr:

George?

Listen, George, in my - I thought you were
going to give me a report on how to save a

Haas:

half billion dollars from Agriculture.
I gave you a report. I didn't know that I
had the job of--

H.M.Jr:

Sure, I said that you were to contact these

fellows in White's report. He says, "I haven't

done anything on Agriculture because you were
to get one from Haas.
Haas:

I didn't know that you had given me that
specific assignment. You asked me to go into

the Agriculture appropriations, which I did.

But I will do it.
H.M.Jr:

How long will it take you?

Haas:

Oh, could you give me three days?

H.M.Jr:

All right.
I can do it in an hour if you must have it.

Haas:

H.M.Jr:

No.

Haas:

It is one of those things that--

H.M.Jr:

I would like something for Wednesday forenoon.

Haas:

All right.

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Wednesday at nine-thirty.

Haas:

All
right.total?
Five hundred million dollars out
of their

H.M.Jr:

No, I don't set any figure. How much can you do
it. you think that they can save and not waste

Haas:

I see.

H.M.Jr:

I don't set any figure.
Anything else, George?

Haas:

I have nothing, no.
You notice the E and F are doing very much

better, on that report of the bond sales.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Chick?

Harry?
White:

H.M.Jr:

I have nothing.

Do I do anything about Dan Tobin's call Satur-

day?

Bell:

Well, he would like to talk to you sometime

this week. He is in no hurry about it, but

we might want to talk about that thing before
you call him. He said that he would be there
a week, in Indianapolis, and you could call
him any time during that time.
H.M.Jr:

All right.
Harold?

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Here are the bond sales from the first until
Friday. If you would like to compare them
with the May sales, here are the May figures.

H.M.Jr:

What else?

Graves:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

Harold, the man who is doing - who can I talk
to besides - with you about the Texaco Hour
thing?

Graves:

Callahan, I think, would be the--

Kuhn:

The man who was running that program is going
to be in town today, Monroe, who was in charge

of building the whole program up.
H.M.Jr:

Is he?

Kuhn:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Then, could I talk with you (Graves) and
Callahan and Monroe? I have got a suggestion.

Kuhn:

I think his name is Monroe.

Graves:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

Two forty-five. I mean, I want to ask some
questions, and I have got some suggestions.
Did you people ever take on Miss Ernst?

Graves:

She is advising our people, as I understand.

H.M.Jr:

Find out and let me know just what she is doing, will you? Just what - when you come in

at a quarter of.
Graves:

Yes.

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Let me know at a quarter of three about Connie

Ernst, will you?

That girl is really awfully good. You know

those two hours on election eve that every-

body listened to on the radio? She had a lot
to do with that, I believe. That was a swell

hour. That was one of the best programs ever
put on.

Schwarz:

Sherwood made a talk on that.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else, Harold?

Graves:

Nothing else.

H.M.Jr:

Dan?

Bell:

Are you interested in getting the allocations

made by the President under the Lend-Lease
once a week?

H.M.Jr:

No.

Bell:

We can give them to you Monday morning as of

Saturday night, if you want them.

H.M.Jr:

Well, if you give them to me in a way I can
understand them.

Bell:

They are usually a week late in getting them.

H.M.Jr:

They way they have been coming in--

Bell:

The last sheet is a summary, right on the

bottom.

A total of four and a half billion has been
allocated with two billion five yet to be
allocated.

H.M.Jr:

You mean - does that show how much was done

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Bell:

No, these are cumulative figures, you see, for
each department, and then at the end there is

a-H.M.Jr:

Could it be done with just another column of
how much was done during the week?

Bell:

That is right, very simple.

H.M.Jr:

Well then, if you are going to do it - how
much has been spent out of--

Bell:

I haven't got that yet. I was supposed to
get that Saturday. Not spent, but obligated.

H.M.Jr:

But how about out of pocket.

Bell:

That is on our daily statement every day. It

is running now between five and six million
dollars.
H.M.Jr:

Altogether?

Bell:

Yes, sir. The actual expenditures are on our
daily statement every day.

H.M.Jr:

But if won't be, for instance - if you say,

available funds for ordnance, so much, so
much allocated during the week, and net spent,

which is the figure I ought to have.
Bell:

That is a little difficult to get. Our figures
are totals. They are not broken down into
those categories. In order to get what is
spent, we would have to get it from their

books, the departmental books.
H.M.Jr:

Would you think about it?

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- 27 Bell:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to have the figure that is spent.
I am not interested in the obligated.

Bell:

The obligated is the real figure, because that
is when they enter into the contracts and the

machinery begins to move then.
H.M.Jr:

Well, if you want to give me allocated, obligated, and spent.

Bell:

I will try it.

H.M.Jr:

That would be - well, allocated, obligated, and
spent.

Bell:

Sure, I will try it.

H.M.Jr:

They have only spent five or six million?

Bell:

Six million, I think it was.

H.M.Jr:

I am glad I don't have to sign that report

going to Congress.
Foley:

Bell:

This is per day, isn't it?
Oh, no, that is total actual dollars spent
out of Treasury under Lend-Lease.

White:

Do they buy on thirty, sixty, or ninety day
credit, Dan? Is that lag existing between

production and delivery?
Bell:

No, the lag is carrying out the commitments.

They enter into a contract and then fulfilling
that contract is the lag, but these expenditures

are largely agricultural commodities.
H.M.Jr:

I know a week ago or two weeks ago, before I

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left they told me there was sixteen million
dollars that had been put on the ocean, of
Lend-Lease material.

Bell:

That largely came under the billion three

H.M.Jr:

Well, would that include a billion three, the

limitation.

figure you are going to give me, or not?

Bell:

We would have to work up something for that,

H.M.Jr:

I would like it, the allocated, obligated,

I think.
spent.

What is the name of the Englishman who does
the shipping?
Kuhn:

Salter.

Bell:

There has been a bill introduced to amend
the National Housing Act. Among a number

of other things, they are increasing the limit
of commitments from four billion to five billion.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Bell:

That increases our potential contingent lia-

bility up to five billion, and we are saying

in this report to the Chairman of the Committee

on Banking and Currency of the Senate, The

Treasury Department is not in possession of
evidence or information upon which to justify

a conclusion as to the advisability or necessity for the enactment of this section, which
would result in an increase in the potential
contingent liability of the United States with
reference to debentures.

"It is recommended, however, that this proposal

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- 29 be given consideration not only on its merits
as to a separate and distinct activity but

also in the light of the present situation

which requires that we should concentrate our
efforts to the fullest extent possible on
national defense."
Do you have objection to the Treasury saying

that at this time? The Budget says that
there is no objection to submission of this
report as we have drafted it.

H.M.Jr:

Bell:

What is the purport of it?
To increase the limitation of four billion

dollars of insurance to five billion dollars

which, of course-H.M.Jr:

On what?

Bell:

On mortgages insured by the FHA.

H.M.Jr:

It is all right.

White:

Well, the tone of that is disapproval, I
gather, is that what you mean?

Bell:

That is an inference in it at this time. It
is a question of whether, with our national

defense program, we ought to increase FHA

mortgages another billion dollars at this
time.

White:

Well--

H.M.Jr:

I thought you had approved it.

Bell:

No, we have raised a question about it at this
time. We haven't exactly disapproved it, but
there is an inference there that we might

stop, look, and listen, at least.

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- 30 White:

It seems to me the implication drawn from the

way that is phrased is that you disapprove it,

but you haven't got evidence enough to come out

flatly
it. for a disapproval, but you don't like

Bell:

Well, you could also argue the other way. We
haven't any evidence that we come out flatly
and approve the necessity of it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, what I would like to do is this, as

long as you have brought it up. On both FHA
and Home Owners' Loan, I wouldn't try to stop

it through the limitations, but I think people

ought to put up more cash on the down payment.

I think that is the place it should be gotten.
Bell:

You don't think we ought to insure them up to
ninety percent?

H.M.Jr:

No, my feeling, if you want to do something on

the thing, is that they should gradually in-

crease the amount, make people - only insure
them up to eighty-five percent and make people

put down more money.
Bell:

Well, it seems to me that something outside of
the defense housing that could be delayed until
after this emergency is over, and then take up
housing.

H.M.Jr:

Bell:

Well, what are you going to do with all the
people? They will get it some where - I
wouldn't want to stop it now, but I would like
to - just throw in a suggestion this would
be a good time to only insure up to, say,
eighty-five percent instead of ninety.
The original was eighty percent, you know,

and they increased It to ninety.
H.M.Jr:

Then let's go back to the original one. It is

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- 31 the same idea as the installment payments
on automobiles or anything else.
Bell:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Will you think about it Dan?

Bell:

Yes.

I have two letters-H.M.Jr:

You would go along on that, Harry, wouldn't

you?
White:

Yes, I think that would be in the right direc-

tion because it would force people to save
more and not spend it for other things.
H.M.Jr:

And it would give the government more of a
cushion against the post war collapse.

White:

Yes. I think if the Treasury comment on
this means anything, then this will--

H.M.Jr:

Treasury comments should mean something.

Bell:

I have two letters for your signature. One is

debt notices to the State Department which is
in line with the Stewart-Viner recommendation.

It is in the last paragraph. The other is an

investment of one hundred ninety-one million
of old age funds.
H.M.Jr:

All right?

Bell:

Yes, sir.

Thompson:

Ted Wilson has finally gotten Civil Service and
will report next Monday.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

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- 32 Now, the suggestion that I have, I asked you
to hold up on a certain person, you see.
Thompson:

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

And the suggestion I have, even before I look

at this, is, I want to see if you are going
can't get a well-trained, thoroughly quali-

to strengthen that organization whether we

fied young woman to go in there now instead
of taking on a young man, whether we can't
get some young woman.
Thompson:

We can use both. We already have some in the

organization, but I think that is very good.

H.M.Jr:

Just hold up on this until I have a chance,
but would you also think of some young woman.

Thompson:

I can do that very readily.

H.M.Jr:

But hold this up until I get a chance, because,

after all, we have got so many women employees

and that is a strictly male organization.
Thompson:

I think we can do that very nicely.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

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June 9, 1941
10:19 a.m.

HMJr:

Basil
Connor:

Hello.

Hello, Henry.

HMJr:

Hello, Doc, how are you?

O'C:

I'm fine. To what do I owe

HMJr:

this honor?

Well, I wanted to ask you this:
I wondered if through the
Infantile Association if you knew
of any able young man who had
infantile and would like to have

a job with me. Now I tell you
what it 18. Hello?

O'C:
HMJr:

Yes, Henry.

I had a Coast Guard Officer who
sits outside of my room and
receives people and handles all
telephone calls and all appointments,
you see?

O'C:

Yes.

HMJr:

And with Coast Guard getting in

more and more, I just don't think

I ought to have a Coast Guard man
doing that.

O'C:

Yeah.

HMJr:

He's a Lieutenant and I wondered
if through your work whether you
possibly - some fellow, might say
graduated from Harvard Business
School or some young fellow who
was unfortunate enough to be struck

down with infantile.

O'C:

You want a young man?

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-2HMJr:

Not necessarily.

O'C:

Well, I mean you don't want -

I know what you want, you want

HMJr:

I want a bright young fellow.

O'C:

You want an intelligent man.

HMJr:

Yes. The more intelligent, the
better, and a nice personality.

O'C:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Well, I was thinking - you

remember the fellow that ran
the thing down there - he came

up from Cornell for a long time.

O'C:

Arthur

HMJr:

Somebody like that.

O'C:

Yeah.

HMJr:

On that order.

O'C:

Is he your outside man?

HMJr:

Yes.

O'C:

Now, Henry, this is a sordid

question: What's the compensation?

HMJr:

Well, I don't know, but I suppose
I'd have to ask our people.

O'C:

Well, I mean within what limits

HMJr:

Oh, I don't know. Maybe some
where between - round maybe three

would it be?

thousand, thirty-six hundred.

O'C:

Yeah, I see.

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-3HMJr:

Ithat.
don't know, I hadn't thought of

O'C:

Yeah. Well, Henry, I think your

thought is a very splendid one
and because it enters one of the

problems we always have and that's

a - placing - not placing duds

you know, but placing good men,
you know how people are around

polio and they are kinda cripply.
HMJr:

Right.

O'C:

They think there's something the

matter with them. Will you give

me a little time on it?

HMJr:

Surely.

O'C:

Okay, boy, and I - you know I

wont give you anybody unless he

is all right.

HMJr:

I know you wont, otherwise I
wouldn't ask you.

O'C:

And I'11 do a little exploring

and then I'11 communicate with

you before I do anything further.

HMJr:

Thank you.

O'C:

Fine, Henny. How are you?

HMJr:

Oh, I'm fine.

O'C:

I tell you one thing, you are
doing all right.

HMJr:

Well, I like to hear it.

O'C:

And you can be sure of that.

HMJr:

Thank you.

O'C:

Fine, Henry.

HMJr:

Thanks, Doc.

O'C:

Thanks a lot.

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of

150
June 17. 1941

Memoranium prepared by Mr. Acheson after a

conference with treasury representatives on
June 4 regarding the draft of his memorandum

of June 5 and the draft of the Land-Lease
agreement attached therete.

I understand that this was submitted to the
President by Summer Velles on the afternoon
of June 9.

DWA

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June 9, 1941.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

The State and Treasury Departments have drafted and

discussed various provisions for inclusion in a Lease-Lend
Agreement with the British. Certain points have seemed

clear to both Departments, certain other points less clear.
It had been hoped that Secretary Hull and Secretary
Norgenthau could have discussed these with you today. In

view of Secretary Hull's indisposition and the urgency of

initiating discussions with the British, it is recommended
that the State Department be authorized to open with the

British today discussion on the clear points noted below,
informing them that the matter of consideration for non-

returnable military items and certain other matters are
being reserved for a few days.

Clear Points

1. The Agreement should not include provisions relating to economic and other problems of the emergency, of

post-war relief and of reconstruction. Provision shall be
made in this Agreement for the designation of a BritishAmerican

From

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American commission which will att continuously tap the per
pose of formulating solutions not only of Shose international
economic problems which confrent both governments, but also

of those larger problems involved in a postum volies and
reconstruction. such commission will seek to work out
problems with existing inter-American bodies.
2. The Agreement should include the following:

(a) An undertaking by the British to supply
similar aid to us should our defense at any time
require 18.

(b) As undertaking by the British to esasins
sympathetically our noods for additional bases,
with a view to giving full support and assistance
to the strengthening of our defense.

(o) Aa undertaking by the British to return to
the United States, upon request of the President,

all material transferred which is in existence at
the end of the war, whereupen the charge therefor

shall be written off.
(d) Against their obligation to the United States
for non-military materials, food, and similar items,
the British shall receive credits for property,
services, information, facilities, OF other
considerations

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-3considerations or benefits accepted or acknowledged
by the President, the value of which considerations
and benefits shall have been determined by the

President. The terms and conditions of liquidating
the balance of the British obligations for such
non-uilitary materials shall be determined by the
President, perhaps after receiving recommendations
of a joint United States and United Kingdom commission.

Unresolved Points

1. The principal material that will be lease-leaned to
the British will be military material which will be destroyed
or used up in the war. The question arises what, if any,
compensation shall be received by the United States for such

military material.
Alternative ways of handling this matter are:
(a) Write off the value of such materials upon their
being consumed or destroyed.

(b) Britain to furnish the United States war materials or articles not produced in the United States
for such of the war materials transferred to Britain
and consumed OF destroyed which are not, in the

opinion of the President, offset by one or another
form of consideration or benefit received or accepted
by the United States.
(c)

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-4(e) Keep, as at present, what is essentially as
open account, leaving for determination at some

later time the question of what, if any, compensation

shall be paid therefor by the British.
Considerations Affecting the Selection
of One of These Alternatives

(1) It will unquestionably have a good effect on
British morale to know that the cost of that part
of the hose which is destroyed in putting out the
fire is not a mortgage on Britain's future.
It also seems probable that the consideration

for amounts as large as the unreturnable military
items are likely to be must be looked for in the

political field rather than in the commercial field.
The idea of lease-lend was to obviste the necessity
of payment in cash. Repayment in commodities, 1f
pushed far enough to compensate for a large amount

of destroyed military items, would deprive the
British in the post-war period of foreign exchange
with which to buy from us and others necessary isports. Such a situation might provide the cause

or the excuse for a British control over their foreign trade and foreign payments equalling or ex-

ceeding the pre-war restraints of continental
countries.
As

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As against this must be weighted the

reaction, particularly at the present time,
of the Congress and the American public to
our receiving no consideration or payment

for the bulk of the materials lease-leaned
to Britain other than the use of such
materials, when Britain has islands and in
vestments in the Western Hemisphere.

The State Department believes that

opinion at the present time is more inclined
to accept the writing off of destroyed items
than it would be in the future, If and when

the crisis is over, and that it would be
wise now to eliminate a fruitful source of
bitterness and difficulty between the two nations.

(11) To wipe off the obligation will keep the
total British obligations within more manageable

proportions and will thereby reduce the postwar settlement and adjustment problems.

The alternative is to make clear to the

British that they will not be expected to repay
dollar for dollar for such war materials. Because of the inability now to foresee an appro-

priate basis of settlement, flexible powers are
given

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-6given to the President so that he may deter
sine what, depending on future circumstances,

may fairly be required of the British in compensation for such materials.

(111) If, because of the foregoing, this is
not a propitious time to crystallize the nature
of the obligation of Britain for used-up was
materials, then the matter can continue to be
dealt with as at present, 1.00 through the
continued maintenance of the open account for
such materials.

2. Shall the value of the consideration and benefits
received by the United States from Great Britain be determined by:

(a) The President.

(b) The President acting with the
advice and recommendations of a joint
British-American Commission.

(e) A joint British-American Commission.

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June 9, 1941
10:50 a.m.

RE AID TO BRITAIN
Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Foley

Mr. Cochran

Mr. Bernstein
Mr. White

H.M.Jr:

All right, I am at your service.

Bell:

You will recall that we asked Mr. Acheson to
come over to discuss the type of agreement
which he was submitting to the President for
approval. There were mainly two points in
that that we discused with him. One was the
tying up the agreeing with Great Britain with
a sort of economic document governing the

situation after the war. The other was writ-

ing off the war materials used up or consumed
during the war.
Viner made quite an argument against the

economic factor. In this agreement he said

it was tying up this situation just like we

tied up the last World War, the League of
Nations, with the peace treaty and so forth,
and he thought we were getting into a situa-

tion we couldn't get out of, and he didn't
think it ought to be in the agreement. After

we discussed it sometime, Dean agreed to go
back and rewrite his memorandum to the President

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-2suggesting the things that - on which we were

not quite agreed, and putting it up to the
President to decide. He left out of his

document entirely the e conomic problems. He
thought that would be a separate document.

The second one, about writing off the materials,
while he raised the question, he submitted the
document in such a way that he was arguing
for his form, his recommendation, and we

didn't think that it ought to be that way.

We thought that the point on which we were
agreed ought to be set forth in the document,
and the points on which the President had to

decide S a matter of policy, that they should
set out in it and the alternatives given. In
our iscussion of the matter the other evening, we felt that there might be some reference
in this agreement to the economic document

rather than spelling out what should be done
after the war. We provide that there would
be set up a joint British-American commission

which would study the economic post war

problems, and while that wasn't in our

understanding with Dean, in our subsequent

discussion of the problem we thought in this
agreement would be a good place to tie it up,
so that was put back in here as one of the

clear points and followed it with the others,
in which there is no difference of opinion

between the Treasury and State.

The other points on which we are not in agreement are matters of policy that only the
President can decide.

Now, Saturday morning Dean called me and said

that Feis had just received a telephone call
from Hopkins.

H.M.Jr:

From whom?

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-3Bell:

Hopkins, asking as to the status of this

agreement, and Feis told him that Dean was
carrying on discussionswith the Treasury,
and they were trying to write a memorandum

to set out the things on which there were
agreements and on which they were not entirely
agreed and let the President decide that.
Harry asked what we are doing about the war
materials used up or consumed, and Feis said
"That is one of the points on which they are
disagreeing," and he said, "Well, why don't
you people meaning the State and the
Treasury, recommend that they be written

off." Feis said that he didn't know whether

the Treasury would go along with that.

Well, that is just where we were in disagree-

ment. We felt that it should be set up in

such a way that the President could see the
problem and let him make the decision without

a recommendation, but the State Department

feels that they should recommend that the

debt be written off.
H.M.Jr:

Now, will you wait one second and I will make
this very easy, as far as we are concerned.

Just one second. I don't quite understand
on page 2, "An undertaking by the British to
return to the United States all material
which is in existence at the end of the war,
whereupon the charge therefor shall be written

off." You mean, if they return the stuff the
charge will be written off?

Bell:

That is right.

White:

No charge for depreciation or obsolescence.

H.M.Jr:

That is all right.

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-4Bell:

Dean hates to see "B" go in, on page 4.
He just doesn't think that anybody ought

to recommend that or even suggest it. It
complicates the problem and you will have
another foreign debt settlement.

H.M.Jr:

Just a second. Haven't you seen this, you
fellows?

White:

Yes, we have seen it.

H.M.Jr:

That is what he told us he wanted in the

Foley:

It is what he said he wanted in the first

first place, isn't it?

place, and that is the way we wrote our agreement, and that is the difference between our
two Departments.
H.M.Jr:

Let him settle it. Hell, he can settle it
like that. I have read this thing, and as
far as I am concerned it is all right, let
the damn thing go, and I hope the President
will read it quietly and settle the thing

without bothering me.
Bell:

You do not want to join the State Department
in any specific recommendations on these unresolved points?

H.M.Jr:

No, I would much rather--

Bell:

You would rather have him do it without any
recommendations?

H.M.Jr:

Sure. I would much rather have him do it
without my being in the room.

Bell:

Now, over on page 5 where we talk about

public opinion and say that "when Britain

has islands and investments in the Western
Hemisphere," he wonders if we would be willing

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to put in there, in parentheses, that neither

the State nor the Treasury Department want
these islands or investments in South
America. He says that the State Department

certainly would run from all of them. They
don't want to get entangled in any of those
things.

H.M.Jr:

I wouldn't preclude it. Why just throw that

overboard? I mean, if for no other reason

than that you will certainly be criticized

by Congress for throwing it away. I agree

we don't want it, but it is there. Congress
will say, "Well, why did you, at a wave of
the hand, throw that away?"

White:

Well, I thought the islands were a liability.

I don't feel the same way about the investments, but the islands are aneconomic lia-

bility as long as you get all you want for
air and military bases.

Bell:

I said, "You realize there are discussions

every day in Congress about us taking over
the British possessions in this hemisphere

for this material," and he said, "Yes, I

realize that and we are always going to get

criticism of anything we do, but he thinks

we have to be bold and take a stand at this
time.

H.M.Jr:

Dan, let me tell you something. I think it
is enough to lay it in the President's lap,
and he will take it and write it and suit

himself. I wouldn't do another damn thing.

I would just let it go the way it is.

White:

Well, this presents the issues to the President and makes it very easy for him to make
up his mind.

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6

Bell:

I told Dean that all I wanted you to decide
was as to whether or not you would be willing
to join the State in definite recommendations,
because I knew I had heard you say in conferences from time to time that if you had

your way you would give the British all of
this
tion. material. You wouldn't take any obliga-

H.M.Jr:

If it was left to me.

Bell:

Yes, if it was left to you, but I said, "You

haven't got another Lease-Lend Bill to get
from Congress, you have got the American

public to consider," and I just questioned
whether you would want to join that and not
just let the President decide in view of what
he had said to you before in drafting the
agreement, but I said we had no pride of

authorship in this memorandum and if he
wanted to change some of it, we would be glad

to get together after you decided that ques-

tion of policy.
H.M.Jr:

I just - the memorandum that you sent me in

the country, as far as I am concerned, I
would let that go to the President.
Bell:

That is all we want, isn't it?

H.M.Jr:

I wouldn't go any further.

White:

There is a definite difference between what

you would like to do if it were left wholly
to you and what your recommendations are in

the light of the general political situation.

H.M.Jr:

Are you satisfied, having carried this for me,
to leave it just the way that memorandum is?
I would say as far as I am concerned that,

under the circumstances, it fills the bill.

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-7Bell:

Yes. I would rather you would say that so
far as the matter of policy is concerned
you are satisfied, and then we will work out

the drafting of the agreement - a memorandum
between the State and the Treasury.

H.M.Jr:

Well, isn't that the one?

Bell:

H.M.Jr:

No, this is our draft, and he said, "It is
an excellent job of presenting it impartially."
I thought this was joint.

Bell:

No, he gave us a memorandum, and we changed it

to make it more impartial. His was definitely
in the line of recommending.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Dan, look, we have all got so much to do,
and, God, you work on these things and the
President takes it and does what he wants. I
would send this over and say that is ours and
the State Department can do what they want with

the damn thing. Here we fought for three

months to get a committee composed of Hull,
Jackson, and myself to handle foreign exchange,

four months. We get it and it is signed and

what happens? The President throws it in the

trash basket. He didn't do that. He threw
it to the Director of the Budget and the
Director of the Budget puts it in a pigeon-

hole.
Bell:

They want to get some decision on this from

the President, I think, today so that they can
say something in the report that goes to

Congress tomorrow.
H.M.Jr:

You can quote me as saying, "This represents,
under the circumstances, the best that we
can do, and they can do anything that they

want with it.

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-8Bell:

And I think that you and Hull ought to go
to the President together.

H.M.Jr:

No, leave me out.

Bell:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Let Hull go over and see the President. Let

Hull go over and see him.
Bell:

You would be glad to go with him if he wants

you to go, I can say that?
H.M.Jr:

If you don't mind, I would simply say this,
Dan, that that is the best that we can do,
and it is Mr. Hull's privilege to do anything

that he wants with it. I would just lay that
on their desk and forget about it.

Bell:

O.K.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, we will spend the rest of the week

finagling for position and then Mr. Hull--

Bell:

No, I don't think so. I think this pretty

well suits Dean from an impartial standpoint.
He was hoping that it wouldn't be so im-

partial.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it suits me.

Bell:

And he may have a change of a word or a
sentence here and there.

H.M.Jr:

I appreciate tremendously that you fellows
have kept this off my desk and out of my
room. You have saved me all kinds of trouble,

Dan. It is very helpful to me.

Bell:

Well, Dean has been very good on this, we
must say. He has been very cooperative.

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-9H.M.Jr:

I take it just the way it is written, but
don't suggest anything more about my going

over with the President, I mean with Hull.

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

You would go if Hull wanted you to go?
If he asked me.

Bell:

O.K., , that is all I have.

H.M.Jr:

And I hope he doesn't.
Thank you all.

166

(COPY)
MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

The State and Treasury Departments have

drafted and discussed various provisions for in
clusion in a Lease-Lend Agreement with the British,
This memorandum lists first those matters on which
both Departments believe the decisions are clear and,
second, those matters on which the decision is less

clear. In the latter situation, the considerations
favoring alternative procedures are outlined. It is
suggested that the question of form of the Agreement

be passed without decision at this time and, once
you decide the less clear points, an agreement can

be drafted in a very short time.
Clear Points

1. The Agreement should not include
provisions relating to economic and other problems

of the emergency, of post-war relief and of recen-

struction. Provision shall be wade in this Agreement
for the designation of a British-American commission

which will sit continuously for the purpose of

167

-2formulating solutions not only of those international
economic problems which confront both governments,

but also of those larger problems involved in a postwar relief and reconstruction. Such commission will
seek to work out problems with existing inter-American
bodies.

2. The Agreement should include the
following:

(a) An undertaking by the British to
supply similar aid to us should our do-

fense at any time require it.
(b) An undertaking by the British to
examine sympathetically our needs for

additional bases, with a view to giving
full support and assistance to the
strengthening of our defense.

(e) An undertaking by the British to
return to the United States, upon request

of the President, all material transferred
which is in existence at the and of the
war, whereupon the charge therefor shall

be written off.

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-84
(d) Against their obligation to the
United States for non-military materials,
feed, and similar items, the British shall
receive credits for property, services,

information, facilities, or other considerations or benefits accepted or
acknowledged by the President, the value

of which considerations and benefits shall
have been determined by the President.

The terms and conditions of liquidating

the balance of the British obligations
for such non-military materials shall be
determined by the President, perhaps after
receiving recommendations of a joint
United States and United Kingdom commission.
Unresolved Points

1. The principal material that will be
lease-loaned to the British will be military material
which will be destroyed or used up in the war. The
question arises what, if any, compensation shall be
received by the United States for much military
material.

169

Alternative ways of handling this matter
are:

(a) Write off the value of such materials
upon their being consumed or destroyed.

(b) Britain to furnish the United States
war materials OF articles not produced in
the United States for such of the war

materials transferred to Britain and consumed OF destroyed which are not, in the

opinion of the President, offset by one
or another form of consideration OF benefit
received or accepted by the United States.

(e) Keep, as at present, what is essentially
an open account, leaving for determination
propitious
at some noter time the question of what, if
any, compensation shall be paid therefor

by the British.
Considerations Affecting the Selection
of One of These Alternatives

(1) It will unquestionably have a good
effect on British morale to know that the

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cost of that part of the hose which is

destroyed in putting out the fire is not
a mortgage on Britain's future.
As against this must be weighed the

reaction, particularly at the present time,
of the Congress and the American public to
our receiving no consideration or payment

for the bulk of the materials lease-leaned

to Britain other than the use of such
materials, when Britain has islands and investments in the Western Hemisphere.

(11) To wipe off the obligation will keep
the total British obligations within more
manageable proportions and will thereby

reduce the post-war settlement and adjustment problems,

The alternative is to make clear to

the British that they will net be expected
to repay dollar for dollar for such war
materials. Because of the inability now

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+6.
to foresee an appropriate basis of settlement, flexible powers are given to the
President se that he may determine what,

depending on future circustances, my

fairly be required of the British in compensation for such materials.

(111) If, because of the foregoing, this
is not a propitious time to orystallige
the nature of the obligation of Britain
for used-up war materials, then the matter

can continue to be dealt with as at present,
i.e., through the continued maintenance of
the open account for such materials.

2. Shall the value of the consideration
and benefits received by the United States from Great
Britain be determined by:

(a) The President.

(b) The President acting with the
advice and recommendations of a joint
British-American Commission.

(e) A joint British-American Commission.
6/5/41

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COPY

THE BRITISH SUPPLY COUNCIL IN NORTH AMERICA

June 9th, 1941.

Box 680

Benjamin Franklin Station
Washington, D. C.

D. W. Bell, Esq.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. Bell,

Since the Memorandum dated May 16th, 1941, was submitted to Mr. Secretary
Morgenthau, we have been in telegraphic communication with London as to whether
some items included in Appendix A to the Memorandum could not after all be

handled administratively at the British end under Lend-Lease arrangements
without too much difficulty. These communications have also been supplemented

by discussions with our officials here in the light of their actual current
experience. The result is that we can now replace the previous list by a revised
list attached below, which adds up to $m140 instead of $m199. The main part of the

difference is due to four items:

(1) It is now agreed that agricultural machinery can be conveniently
handled by us under Lend-Lease, provided this category is acceptable at

your end, which I gather it is.

(2) In practice, the item previously included for civil road vehicles,
including fire-pumps, cranes etc. is going foward under Lend-Lease.

(3) It has been possible to divide up the paper and timber items into
two categories and take out some of the larger items which seem to present
no excessive difficulty under the Land-Lease procedure.

(4) The item for oil plant equipment can be reduced, since it is now
proposed to requisition under Lend-Lease for tin plate and drum sheets.

173
-2The items still remaining contain no margin for orders not thought of at
the time when the list was compiled, and there is a sign that they are likely
to increase moderately on account of unforeseen additions during the year. It

would be advisable, therefore, to give a little margin and to think of the total
as amounting now to (say) $m150 as compared with the strict total of $m140.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) J. M. Keynes

P.S. The above is, of course, on the assumption that the items
now declared administratively practicable at our end are

eligible for requisition under lease-lend at your end.

174
APPENDIX A

Thousands of dollars
Original

Revised

Machinery Components

40

Chemical manufactures, Drugs

30

30

Sundry Materials, machinery and
consumption goods

18

18

Vehicle parts

37

8

8

Civil road vehicles, including
fire pumps, cranes, etc.

24
0

Abrasives

2
3

Rutile, Bentonite, Diatomaceous earth,
Tin residues, Bismuth & miscellaneous
non-ferrous metals

6

9

Miscellaneous paper, Bagasse, cotton

and linen rags

8
3

Timber (other than Aero spruce and Aero
plywood)

10
3

Borax, Razorite, Sundry chemicals,

Fibestos & synthetic resins, Carbon
black, Pine tar, Rosin, turpentine &
asphalt

Agricultural machinery

6
6

12

Seeds

011 plant equipment

0

4
4

30

199

20

140

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KEMORANDOM

Jane 9, 1941
TO:

FROM:

Harry L. Hopicins
Oscar Cox

SUBJECT: Land-Lease Agreement with The Netherlands Government.

1. As you know, the Royal Netherlands Government wants to get aid
under the Lend-Lease Act.

2. To get this aid the Netherlands Government wishes to pay cash

in advance of receiving the aid.

3. I see benefits to both the United States and to the Netherlands
from rendering lend-lease aid to the Netherlands.
4. Annaxed is an agreement which we have drafted. Copies have been

sent to the State and Treasury Department for their views.
QUESTIONS

a) After State and Treasury approve it, shall it be taken
up with the Dutch?
Yes

No

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-2b) Do you want to have the Agreement propered se that 10
can be signed by the President and Queen Wilhomina -

T

the highest NetherLands representative?
108

e) Do you want this Agreement excested by the Secretary of
State and the Netherlands Foreign Minister?
Yes

(Initialed) O.S.C.

OSC:aja

to

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C

0

THE WHITE HOUSE

P

Y

WASHINGTON

June 9, 1941
Dear Oscar:

Apropos of the Dutch coming under Lend-Lease, I have

no objection to this provided any funds are not charged to

the seven billion dollar appropriation, if you can work out
a bookkeeping scheme where whatever we buy for them does not

appear as an expense, thereby reducing the total amount of
money available.

I should say in answer to your questions that it should
be taken up with the Dutch as soon as the State and Treasury
approve; the State Department can tell you who should sign the

agreement. Any authoritative people are all right with me.
Cordially yours,

(Initialed) H.L.H.
Harry L. Hopkins

Oscar S. Cox, Esquire,

Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. C.

178

Jame 20, 2942
TO:

Mr. Borry L. Boybian

FROM:

Quear Cas

SUBJECT: Methorlands Land-Lease Agreement.

1. I had in mind the central point which you - in
your note of yesterday.

2. The webbed which I have in mind will not practically

out into the 7 billion dollar appropriation. If, for the Datah put w a million dollars for 1 and, it will
go into the revolving fund provided for in section 6 of the

Land-Lesse Act and / the 7 billion dollars w - million
dollars. This million dollars - then be spent for the -

purposes as - Smile. The not effect will be a and
of washed transactions In terms of dollars, 11 will be as If

the Datah were never in under the hot.
3. As seen as State and Treasury approve, - will take
up the agreement with the Datah and got 28 signed by the Batch
representative designated by State.

(Initialed) O.S.C.
OSCiaja

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June 9, 1941
10:50 a.m.

Felix

Frankfurter:

Henry?

HMJr:

Yes.

F:

Hello.

HMJr:

Yes.

F:

I've just had a phone from the

President saying he wants me to
lunch with him today.
HMJr:
F:

HMJr:

Yes.

So, we'll have to shift hours.
Well, you weren't - it was
Tuesday I was coming.

F:

Oh ! (Laughs) All right it was
bad - I'm at home and I didn't
look at my calendar, I thought
it was today. So much the better.

HMJr:

Tuesday.

F:

Yeah. Listen Henry

HMJr:

Yeah.

F:

Even when he wants to see me, he

can only see me through the
Treasury because he said he wanted

me to - he wanted to be off the
record, 80 go enter by way of
oppositp the Treasury.

HMJr:

Oh, I see.

F:

Get me?

HMJr:

I see.

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-2F:

I suppose your Secret Service
men will make a report on me

if I enter that way.

HMJr:

You never know.

F:

What?

HMJr:

You never know.

F:

Well, I'll get my friend

Sam Morrison after you, if
they do.

HMJr:

All right.

F:

See you tomorrow then, Henry.

HMJr:

Right.

F:

Goodbye, and sorry to have
troubled you.

HMJr:

No trouble.

F:

Goodbye.

181

June 9, 1941
2:02 p.m.

HMJr:

Ferdinand

Yeah.

Kuhn:

Sure, shoot.

HMJr:

Wednesday night, the President

is the guest of the Broadcasting
Association of Broadcasters out
at Burning Tree Club

K:

Yeah.

HMJr:

I imagine they'11 have some stunts -

I'11 tell you who is the head of it,
the president of it is the fellow

that - who is on Columbia Broadcasting

in Washington?
K:

HMJr:

A1 Warner.

Yeah. What would you think of
we could get the Marine Band or
the Navy band to play Berlin's
song and launch it that night.

K;

You have to have an arrangement

HMJr:

we haven't got one.
What's that?

written first for orchestra and

K:

We have to have the music arranged

HMJr:

Isn't it arranged yet?

K:

first

No. Nothing but the piano part.
Now, they might have a try at

it, but I don't think it would

be very good.
HMJr:

No, no. Well when is it going to be

orchestrated?

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2K:

HMJr:

K:

Well, you see we didn't want to get
going until we got the Ascap stuff
cleared, now we are all clear.
Well, that would have been a swell

night to launch it.
Well, it's possible that Berlin's
own music factory up in New York

could turn that out in a couple

days.
HMJr:

I'm sure they could.

K:

But

HMJr:

But then they'd have to practice

K:

Sure.

HMJr:

it.

And he'd want to be there. Why
don't you call up A1 Warner and
ask him?

K:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Do you know him?

K:

I know him well. He's a good friend

of mine. I'd like to find out from

this man, Monroe, how this thing is
done - how this arrangement work is
done - whether it takes long or not
and that kind of thing. Let me have

HMJr:

a talk with him this afternoon.
Yeah. I'm afraid it takes several
weeks, I don't know.

K:

I think that it's quite a job, you

know and I think that if we have
it done in a hurry, we might get a
rotten job done.
HMJr:

Well, then it would be no good.
But I certainly want it launched
in a National way.

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-3K:

Surely.

HMJr:

See?

K:

Yeah.

HMJr:

on some National hook-up or
something.

K:

Yeah, I think that's what they
were planning, but they want
to get their arrangement done
first and have a good band.

HMJr:
K:

Okay.

I'll talk to Callahan about it

and let you know.

K:

Are you coming in at quarter off
I can, may If

HMJr:

Sure.

K:

All right. Thank you.

HMJr:

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June 9, 1941
2:48 p.m.

Howard

Deitz:

Hello, Mr. Morgenthau

HMJr:

How are you?

D:

Fine.

HMJr:

Good.

D:

Little bit tangled up in our

HMJr:

Oh.

D:

HMJr:

radio plays.

But I think seeing daylight.
Good. Look, Mr. Deitz, the reason
I'm calling you, I've been getting
a little restless about not making
any head way of putting on some of
these plans about civil liberties,
you see?

D:

HMJr:

Yes.

And particularly this series by

Carl Carmer in PM, I think
I showed you that last week.

D:

Yes.

HMJr:

Showed some of our people.

D:

Yes.

HMJr:

You know, he does a story every
week on some incident in American

history. They are fresh and not
the - not the Plymouth Rock stuff
and not that sort of thing, you
see?

D:

Yes.

185
2HMJr:

D:

Now, if you haven't seen them,
we could put them in airmail
and send you out three, four
this afternoon.

I'd like to get them, even
though I've seen one.

HMJr:

D:

HMJr:

Well, we'll send you three or
four this afternoon. Paul is
sitting here.
Yes.

Now, the thing that I got in

mind is this: I'm thinking

in terms of the movies, the
radio and the theatre in
connection with our friend,
Bob Sherwood, you see, for
the soldiers.and if we get a
good play that we can use in
all three mediums.

D:

HMJr:

Good.

Now, as far as the movies, what
chance have we got of getting the

industry to take a half a dozen
of these various episodes, but
after all where I got my mind is -

it isn't only that we are asking

them to buy the bonds, but what
are they defending, what are they

D:

HMJr:

fighting for, you see?
Get behind it.

In other words, until somebody else
comes along, for the present I'm

going to push like hell on this

front myself. And when somebody else
comes along, another organization,

and they can do it better, I'll
gracefully retire.

186
3D:

Yes, I do understand, but Mr.
Morgenthau, I'm not clear beyond
this point - I think what you said
was that these playlets that have

a message that deal with civil
liberties, some phase of it, are
going to be presented, you want
presented in all of the mediums

including our radio. Do they exist

beyond the copy that was in PM.

I didn't know Bob Sherwood made any
such plays.

HMJr:

Well, now here's - no they don't.
The plays have to be written, and

they have to be produced. We have

got to start from scratch. What

I'm thinking of has never been done
at zero.

before. Now, we have to start absolutely
D:

HMJr:

Yes, and get right into writing them.
That'e right and, of course, while
we've asked for Carl Carmer to come
down, he's never written any plays

but I wouldn't hesitate a minute to

ask Sherwood to do a couple of these.

D:

Neither would I. Now I've asked Sam
Berman, Mark Connally, George Kauffman,

and Morris Hart, already to write for
this program. I never said civil

liberties, but I said it doesn't

necessarily have to be about bonds,

nor does it necessarily have to be

about historical episodes, it has

to convey an underlying ethical quality
a basis of the plays. They should run
about ten minutes. I've also gotten
the Screen Writers Guild out here to
send a general notice to all its members
to contribute to this program. I've
also had the Screen Actors Guild to
send a general note to all actors to
cooperate. So far, I've gotten wonderful
offers of cooperation.
which we associate with democracy as

HMJr:

Yeah, I just put you on.....

187
4D:

run into some technical difficulties.
HMJr:

I just want you to know you are on this
loud speaker in my room because your
own people are sitting around here.
Graves, Powell

D:

HMJr:

Well, that's fine. I'm delighted.
It helps very much.

They can hear you now. They couldn't

before. Ferdi Kuhn, Mrs. Klotz
D:

Well, that's fine. Now, the general
over all plan on this particular phase
of it - it seems to me, offhand, the

ideal would be to have a beautifully
conceived and originally written program
by the best writers of America, but the
certain complications of little elements
make it not feasible to make that your

goal right at the very first minute.

HMJr:
D:

Yes.

Therefore, I immediately called up
Information Please to make that spot
and they responded, as you know. It

looks as though we are going to have

a program. The first program 18 going

to be quite entertaining. It's going
to be - it will also have certain
inspirations in it which if not contained

in the exact material of the performance
will be contained in the in-between, all
through it 80 that when we come through

with a program, when it is finished, it
will have an enobling effect. Now, the
main idea of the program aside from its
essential spirit is to keep up a
in a rating as good as anything on the air,

so that we get the full benefit of all the

audiences that have ever been built up

on radio. I am a little terrified for

fear that if we reduce it to something
that is not essentially very dramatic or
very exciting even though it is very
moral for our purposes that it might not
be extremely interesting. In other words
it does depend upon the quality of the copy.

188

-5HMJr:

Well, now this thing that I have
for instance 18 William Lloyd

Garrison and the way he was almost
lynched and how he rescued a negro,
got in a carriage and galloped down
through New York streets and I think

finally entered - just escaped with
this fellow, you see?

Yes.

D:

HMJr:

It's very dramatic.

D:

Yes.

HMJr:

I'll send it to you.

D:

Good.

HMJr:

I don't suppose there's one man

D:9

in a hundred on the street that
knows the incident, but this man,
Cramer has taken - the things that
I've read, the reason that I keep
after - have taken the more dramatic
things, you see? Let me send you he's done three or four.
Yes, that sounds swell. Now, it is

a problem. I don't think that one

should exaggerate a problem, anyone
should approach it

HMJr:

Look, Deitz

D:

I think that it is a problem to get
good copy.

HMJr:

D:

Deitz, if it was easy, it would have

been done long ago.

Yes, I mean the copy is pretty poverty
stricken, even on the radio, even any
where.

HMJr:

D:

And if it was easy, I wouldn't be
calling you.
Well, that's sweet. (Laughs)

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-6
HMJr:

So

I swear to you by all that's holy
I would move heaven and earth, but
I think that to embark on a project

D:

that isn't sure maybe - we want to

have a great program, we want to

have a successful one. It will not
be cheap. Sometimes the sound of

a name might make it sound a little
bit cheapish, but it will be very
popular and very broad and it will

HMJr:

have the right ideal behind it.
Now, I'm not only thinking for the

D:

Yes, I know.

HMJr:

Texaco hour, that's only incidental.
I'm thinking about these thousands
and thousands of soldiers, you see?

D:

Yes.

HMJr:

On every ship board every night, you

D:

Yes.

HMJr:

know, they have a movie, you know that?

Did you know that on every ship in the
United States Navy every night they
show a movie?

D:

Yes. I didn't know every night, but
I knew they showed movies quite

regularly.

HMJr:

I think, as far as I know, every single
night they show a movie. Now - those
audiences - until the President has
somebody, whose job it is to do it on
the audiences that have got to be
reached, they got to be told what the

hell this is all about.

D:

Sure.

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-HMJr:

And we are not doing it. Now,
I've got some people that are
kind enough to help me, like

yourself and 88 I say, I'd at
least like to make the effort.
Yes, that's right.

D:

HMJr:
D:

And if he ask

Now, I would like to know, for
instance, would Sherwood-I'd like
a talk with Powell, I know he's in
Washington.

HMJr:
D:

He's sitting here and he can hear you.

That's good, that's what I'm saying.
If ne could get with Sherwood right
away, find out - I know a bit about

Sherwood's plans and what he's done.
I know he was side-tracked in many -

a couple of things that he tried to
do and in the course of it he may
have built up some material which
would represent more his ideal of
the entertainment than the turn has
taken.

HMJr:

Well, Powell will call him as soon

as he leaves the room which will be
when you hang up.

D:

I would love to see Sherwood for

instance, if he would volunteer to
be the dramatic editor of this program
80 that Sherwood - no playlet would

be on unless approved by Sherwood.
HMJr:

Well, nothing would suit me better.

D:

And that Sherwood would also be the

inspiration to inspire his fellow

playwrights to contribute these things.
Sherwood is brilliant on his subject
and has standing that is the top, if

he'd do it, but I'm a little freightened
for fear that he is so involved in
other things.

191

-8HMJr:

Well, Powell will try him this
afternoon.

D:

That would be fine.

HMJr:

All right.
Meanwhile, do you approve the lines
that we are going as outlined by
Paul Monroe?

D:

HMJr:

D:

He hasn't had a chance. He'11 get

a chance before he goes home tonight.
Good, and I would like to know whether
you do approve and with one modification.

Because then I will follow out along

those lines, adding to it the interpretation of my own.

HMJr:

But he'11 be back here, he's coming

back again at three thirty and he will
see me at that time and I'11 give him

a Chance then.
D:

That willobe very fine, Mr. Morgenthau.

HMJr:

Thank you.

D:

You can command me for anything on

this. I will do anything in the

world and change it according to a
general idea or your ideas and try
to deliver a program.
HMJr:

D:

HMJr:

D:

Nobody could ask for more. And I'm

seeing him again at three thirty.
And then I'd like to hear what the
general opinion of it 18.

Well, one of this gang will call you
back.

Good. Good luck.

HMJr:

Thank you.

D:

Thank you very much.

192

June 9, 1941
4:15 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Jesse
Jones:

Hello.

HMJr:

Hello, Jesse.

J:

How are you?

HMJr:

Oh, I'm fine.

HMJr:

Well, I'm available any time you
Well, all right. What are you doing

J:

Eleven tomorrow suits me all right.

HMJr:

What?

J:

But then I wouldn't get any lunch

J:

HMJr:

around eleven tomorrow?

on that?

(Laughs) Wait a minute. (Pause)

You got to go till Thursday for
lunch.

J:

You made a mistake, you see.

HMJr:

Wait a minute, I'm - Thursday I'm

J:

Well, I think we better do it

free.

tomorrow.

HMJr:

Well, I tell you, we do it twice.

J:

Well, we might do it that way, yeah.

HMJr:

I'll put you down Thursday for lunch.

J:

Okay.

193

-HMJr:

And
I'm not going to let you call
me.

J:

Okay.

HMJr:

And tomorrow morning at eleven,
how's that?

J:

That will be fine.

HMJr:

What?

J:

That will be fine.

HMJr:

Okey doke.

J:

Goodbye.

HMJr:

Thank you.

194
June 9, 1941
4:48 p.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Ronald
Ransom:

Hello, how are you?

HMJr:

I'm all right, how are you?

R:

Fine, thank you. I told you

HMJr:

Oh yes.

R:

Now, the latter part of this

when I got back from the
swing around the country, I'd
get in touch with you.

week I'm going - I went to
nine of the Federal Reserve

Banks, but I'm going to Richmond
and Atlanta, which will make
eleven of the twelve.

HMJr:

oh, yes.

R:

And by next week when I get

back I will have nearly covered

all of them and I thought if you

would be interested next week
I would get in communication with

you and.
HMJr:

R:

Very much. I'd like you to come
over and have a meal with me.

I'd like to do that. There's a
lot of things that I've run into
that I think might be of interest
to you.

HMJr:

Well, if you give me a ring, I'd
love to have you come over and

have a meal.
R:

Fine. I ought to say that I think
the President's address was a

magnifident one and that it beautifully
timed and what he's doing on this labor
situation is a masterpiece of statesmanehip. I feel that what he's done

195

-2in that speech and on debts
is covering up two of the in
things that I encountered

nine of these districts
were
I think vitally
important that
and I feel happier about it than
I did before the speech I heard
at St. Louis.

HMJr:

All right.

R:

So, I'll call you next week.

HMJr:

Thank you.

196

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.

June 9, 1941.

Comments on the recent radio address of the Secretary are, on

the whole, not particularly friendly. The situation in regard to

strikes is very much in the average man's mind, judging both by
letters of comment on bond sales and other correspondence. The mail

of Monday morning, the 9th, indicated 4 critical letters to 1 friendly
one, and of the 4, 3 criticized the Government's policy in regard to
strikes.

Typical comments are --

J. W. Kellogg, Chicago. "Your prattle about defense bonds would
sound better if you cut out your communistic experiments. Too much
labor coddling."
V. Scott, Asheville, N.C. "Here are some of the remarks I heard
after your radio talk last night." "I'11 not buy any more defense bonds
as long as there are so many strikes on defense projects." "If labor
can't be patriotic enough to work for the defense of our country, why
should I deny myself buying defense bonds?" "The Communists are in a
position to block by means of strikes any effort made by the USA which

does not please them." In view of these facts, the writer begs the
Secretary to use his influence toward the enactment of laws to end
strikes during the emergency.

A Post Office clerk, New York City. "Your speech was very good and
to the point. I have been buying Savings Bonds since they were issued,
but the majority of the clerks have not been approached to buy bonds.
I hope a stronger campaign will be made among these Government employees."

Mrs. G. C. Deill, McCune, Kansas. Listened with pleasure to the
radio address, but asks why Cities Service should not be made to pay
back dividends in order that hundreds of stockholders could buy defense
bonds with money tied up in utility investments.
W. W. McEachern, President, Union Trust Company, St. Petersburg,

Florida. Listened with keen interest to the address, and reports that
his bank has been particularly energetic in selling these securities.
The entire personnel of the institution, totalling 52, is purchasing
bonds on a monthly basis. "The sale of these defense Savings Bonds has
been very gratifying as we have sold far more than we anticipated selling."

197
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 9, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau

E. H. Foley, Jr.

I thought you might be interested in the attached
memorandum from Harold Stanley in regard to the fees
and commissions in the Viscose deal.

T.N.7h

wa

198

COPY

June 4, 1941

Public offering price

$62,295,146

This was for 91.14% of the stock

and indicates a valuation for the

whole company (100% of the stock)
of $68,351,049)
Payment to 17 purchasers including managers, under the
March 15 contract, was $3,351,576, which is 5.38% of the

public offering price, for a rranging the original contract
and tying up a large amount of capital; for arranging the
recapitalization of the Company; for the risk and for
carrying the commitment in difficult times; for forming
nationwide underwriting and distributing groups and for
planning and supervising a successful distribution and
for other responsibilities and services.
Payment to 17 purchasers, as underwriters and sellers,
was $1,347,599, which is 2.16% of the public offering
price.

Payment to some 581 other dealers as underwriters and sel-

lers was $2,751,601, which is 4.42% of the public offering

price.

Expenses paid by the British Government were .64% of the

public offering price.

199
for Miss Chauncey

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

June 9. 1941

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Official sales of British-owned dollar securities under the vesting order
effective February 19, 1940:

No. of Shares $ Proceeds of Nominal Value
Shares Sold

Sold
June 2
3

4
5

6

of Bonds Sold

$

Proceeds of
Bonds Sold

383,000
278,000
214,500
76,000
45,000

124,587
209.701

520

647,414
757,343
866,239
283,771
284,783
24,865

Nil

Nil

111,274

2,864,415

996,500

591,851

9,214,835-1/2

266.759.280

41,312,050

34,682,641

9.326.109-1/2

269,623,695

42,308,550

35,274,492

25,876
33,759
33,200
10,120
7.799

161,5

65,213
30,848

7

Sales from
2/22/40 to
5/31/41
Total

2/22/40 to
6/7/41

MMP.

200
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 9. 1941
Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Mr. Cochran

FROM

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Official sales of British-owned dollar securities under the vesting

order effective February 19, 1940:
$ Proceeds of
Shares Sold
June 2

$ Proceeds of
Bonds Sold

Total
772,001
967,044

647,414
757,343
866,239
283,771
284,783
24,865

124,587
209,701
161,502
65,213
30,848

2,864,415

591,851

3,456,266

266,759,280

34,682,641

301,441,921

35,274,492

304,898,187

Nil

1,027,741
348,984
315,631
24,865

3
4

5
6

7

Sales from

Feb. 22, 1940
to May 31, 1941
Total

Feb. 22, 1940

to June 7. 1941 269,623,695

$ proceeds of non-vested securities sold

May 24, 1941 - May 31, 1941

$ proceeds of non-vested securities sold
Sept. 1, 1939 - May 24, 1941
$ proceeds of non-vested securities sold
Sept. 1, 1939 - May 31, 1941

200,000

226,800,000
227,000,000
GRAND TOTAL

MM.

304,898,187

227,000,000
531,898,187

For Miss Chauncey

201

Jun 9. 1941

COMPIREDIAL

Dear Mr. Knoke:

Permit me to acknovledge, sa behalf of the

Secretary. the receipt of your letter of Jame 5. 1941.
enclosing year compilation for the week ended May 28

showing dollar disbursements out of the British Repire
and French accounts as the Federal Reserve Bask of New
York and the means by which these expenditures were
financed.

Faithfully yours,

s. Morie

Technical Assistant to the Secretary.

L. W. Knoke, Require,
Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
New York, New York.

HMC:imc:6/9/41

202

0

0

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
I

OF NEW YORK

June 5. 1941.

CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary: Attention: Mr. H. Marle Cochree
I as enclosing our compilation for the week
ended May 28, 1941, showing dollar disbursements out of

the British Repire and French accounts at this bank and
the means by which those expenditures were financed.

Faithfully yours,
/a/ L. W. Knoke
L. W. Knoke,

Vice President.

Henerable Henry Morgentham, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.
Washington, D. O.
Enclosure

GOPYING:6/7/41

Other

tures(a)

Debits

Credits

Gold

1,187.6

828.2

1,356.1

52.0

420.1

308.9
198.5

271.0

6.0
6.0

31,4

7.9

8.6

160.5

32.0

1.8

0.5

4.4
0.3

4.2

1.3

0.2

0.5

0.1

0.7
2.1
456.9

0.7
0.6
1,098.4

1.7
0.2

0.5
0.2

0.7

1.6

0.9

0.9

0.4

0.8

605.6

Aug. 29 - Oct. 2
Oct. 3 - 30

316.8

244.3

72.5

196.7

167.8

28.

Oct. 31 - Nov. 27
Nov. 28 - Dec. 31

241.0
234.6

201.1

39.9

206.8
425.6

27.8

Official

(b)

3.556.72

259.5
198.0

Credits (e)

Dear. (-)

in Balance
35.0

Total

Debits
866.3(e)

210.0

18.0

31.5

18.5

0.8

26.0
108.0

60.6
575.6

- 36.6
10.8

2.1

.793.1

111.4
.109.5

31.7
48.8

62.5

1.7

63.2

0.2

O

Debit

416.6 (e)

449.7

tures

421.4

878.3

1941

Jan. 2 - 29

197.4

162.7

Jan. 30 - Feb. 26
Feb. 27 - Apr.

164.6

137.8

2

Apr. 3 - Apr. 30
May 1 - May 28

May 29 - July 2

34.
26.8

229.7

157.6

32.1

126.0

101.9

24.1

122.6

90.6

32.0

259.9

176.2

52.0

101.4

26.6

26.0

237.9
218.9

103.7
125.6
6.3

62.2
78.3

8.2

0.7

15.0

+92.9

0.9

32.0

52.7

-31.6

0.4

6.0

11.1
5.5

91.0

72.0

-

-

-

-

-

Not Imp

total
Credit
900.2

095-((e)

900.2
-

-

-

195.1(e)

+229.0

1.3

- 7.3

0.5
-

-

1,793.2

2,782.31

C or

CREDIT

Expendit

Other

Confidential

FRANCE

-

Total

OF

DEBITS

and

1940

War parted through Dec.

BANK

-

First year of WIT
(8/29/39-8/28/40)

ENGLAND BRITISH GOVERNMENT
or

-

Strictly

Week Ended May 28. 1941.

-

PERIOD

I'm Millions of Dollars

-

Total
Debits

-

ANALYSIS OF BRITISH AND FRENCH ACCOUNTS

0.7
0.6

- 0.1

- 1.5

198.2

+220.1

0.5
0.2

1.2

1.6

0.9

0.9
0.8

0.4

July July 30
July 31 - Aug, 27

Second year of war

(0/29/40-8/27/41)

Aus. 28 - Oct. 1

Oct. Oct. 29
Oct. 30 - Dec. 3
Dec. 4 - 31
ENTED:

21

29.3

29.2
20.2
21.6

28

27.0

19.6

14

26.7

10.4

17.1

6.5
7.7

27.8
11.5

7.4

34.6

Average Weekly Expenditures since Outbreak of War
$19.6 million
France (through June 19)
27.6 million
England (through June 19)
*

-

39.6

May

6.3

16.0
6.0

-

England (since June 19)
50.3 million
For monthly breakdown see tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.

4.0

5.5

30.6(f)

-22.5

0.2

+1.1

0.1
0.1

-17.8

+7.6

-

-

-

-

0.2
0.1

01

-

Transfers from Britinh Purchasing Commission to
Bank of Canada for French Account
Feek ended May 28
'million
Cumulation from July 6
million
162.7

0.2
0.1

-

-

0.2
0.3

-

-

0.2

-

0.1
0.2

+0.1

0.3

+0.3

-

(See footnetes on reverse side)

(a) Includes payments for account of British Purchasing Commission, British Air Ministry, British Supply Board, Ministry of
Supply Timber Control, and Ministry of Shipping.
(b) Estimated figures based on transfers from the Now York Agency of the Bank of Montreal, which apparently represent the

proceeds of official Brit iah sales of American securities, including those effected through direct negitiation. In addition

to the official selling, substantial liquidation of securities for private British account occurred, particularly during the

early months of the war, although the receipt of the proceeds at this Bank cannot be ident ified with any accuracy. According
to data supplied by the British Treasury and released by Secretary Morgenthau, total official and private British liquidation
of our securities through December, 1940 amounted to $334 million.
(a)

Includes about $85 million received during October, 1939 from the accounts of British authorized banks with New York banks,
presumably reflecting the requisitioning of crivate dollar balances. Other large transfers from such accounts since October,
1939 apparently represent the acquisition of proceeds of exports from the sterling area and other currently accruing dollar
receipts.

(a) Includes payments for account of French Air Commission and French Purchasing Commission.

(e) Adjusted to eliminate the effect of $20 million paid out on June 26, 1940 and returned the following day.
(f) Includes $20 million received by the British Purchasing Commission as a refund of capital assistance payments previously made to a
munitions concern in this country. This item also includes about $3.2 million presumably representing the proceeds of wool expar ts
and $2 million transferred from account of B British authorize bank with a New York bank.

Strictly

1941.

Considential
AUSTRALIA

Total
Debits
PERIOD

to

official
British

Other

Debits

Total
Credits

A/C

of
Gold

Other
For Own

For French

(or

Credits Dear. (-)

Total
Debits

in Balance

323.0

16.6

British

Debits

Credits

Gold

Credits Dear. (6

Sales

A/C

A/C

20.9

38.7

32.4

+181.7

31.2

3.9

27.3

36.1

30.0

6.1

4.9

27.3

0.2

0.4

8.7

2.5

6.2

8.0

6.7

1.3

0.7

14.3
16.7
13.7

0.3

+ 1.9

10.1

7.5

2.6

+34.4

0.6

2.5

2.2
0.5

12.6

4.8

2.1
4.8

1.4
1.5

4.4
41.0

3.1
4.8

7.9
3.6
6.8

6.5

3.7

2.0

2.0

+230.2

57.9

14.5

43.4

62.4

50.1

12.3

4.5

2.0
1.8

306.4

504.7

412.7

44.3

43.9

16.4

26.7
35.2
48.0

28.6
69.6
60.6

14.0
49.2

in Balance

Sales

A/C

,rotyearof war
(8/29/39-8/28/40)*

Official

1940

2

3-30

Ot. 31 - Nov. 27
7.28- Dec. 31

-

parted Doo.

44.3
26.7
35.2
48.0

477.2

-

-

-

-

16.6

-

-

Aug. 29 -Oat.

-

42.5

-

460.6

707.4

33.7
31.1
60.9

33.9

16.9

24.3

14.3
23.1

34.9

46.0
35.9

12.5

-

39.2

25.6

15.8

-

534.8

20.9

110.7

1941

1 - Way 28

29-July

60.9
34.9
39.2

-

-

27 - Jpr. 8
3-Apr. 30

33.7
31.1

-

-

-

-

2 - 29
30 - Joba

-

15.0
6.8
19.1
10.5
0.5

2.0

0.2

4.8

6.8

5.1

1.7

6.8

4.8
5.0

-

3.2

1.7

3.3

3.2

0.6

2.6

3.8

14.9

5.8

0.8

12.9

10

9.3

- 13.7

8.2
0.7

+3.2

2.8
5.4

5.0

13.7

-

2.8

5.9

12.5
4.6

-

5.4

49

4.1

1,2
1.3
0.8

7.9

+31
0.5

3-July 3

31 - Auge 87
(40-8/27/11)

28 - Oct.
2 - Oct. 29
30-Dec. 3

KOR

124 ENDED:
9.0

14

3.3

21
28

9.4
12.5

9.0

12.2

3.5

-

8.3

4.4

3.1

-

-

-

9.4

4.6

4.5

12.5

4.4

4.1

-

-

ity Average of Total Debits Since Outbreak of War
million
0.704
May 28, 1941
through
monthly breakdown 000 tabulations prior to April 23, 1941.
4/1

0.5
-

My

-

-

-

-

0.1
0.3

-3.9
-4.9
- 8.1

17

-

0.2

-

1.7
0.2

0.1
0.1

-

0.1
0.1

1.7

-

1.7

1.8

-

4.3
0.4

3.9
0.2

0.2

1.8

-

04

-1.6
-0.1

+26
-1.4

206

ALLISON SHIPMENTS

TRICTLY

British

b. 29 - Jan.

4

41

-

19 25

33

-

-

26 - Feb. 1

31

-

28

60

-

30

b. 16 - 22

b. 23 - Mar. 1

r. 2-8
9 15

8

C

Total

E

-

1
3

-

b. 9 15

r.

-

8

83

5 11
12 18

b.

Total

E

C

-

83

-

41

2

-

-

2

-

33

-

-

-

-

31

-

-

60

25

1

1

-

31

32

-

-

-

-

77

-

-

-

-

-

-

6

69

-

-

6

72

-

-

36

14

6

6

-

-

1

88

-

12

2

-

85

2

-

43

-

-

33

-

32

-

86

1

1

35

-

66

2

1

80

-

80

-

91

-

91

2

-

71

-

77

-

2

74

-

80

1

2

17

-

53

14

-

3

103

47

-

5

71

3

12

10

88

-

21

10

19

3

23 - 29

87

2

-

89

10

1

r.

30 - April 5

24

-

-

24

41

1

r.

6 12

60

1

66

r.

13 - 19

12

2

-

F.

20 - 26

3

3

-

-

4 10

24

11 17

8

1

14

-

2

6

1

-

-

-

-

-

24

-

53

11

73

-

9

y 18 - 24

60

13

16

89

-

y 25 31

24

14

14

52

-

ne 1 7

12

25

16

53

-

690

76

59

825

438

y

4

2

r.

-

TOTAL

a

26

36

5

5

-

2

7

3

1

8

7

6

5

5

fice of the Secretary of the Treasury,
vision of Research and Statistics

62

9

14

-

38

13

20

-

93

23

29

-

22

27

-

23

28

10

91

113

613

30

1,468

7

7

9

TAL Dec. 29 June 7

GRAND

-

16 22

r. 27 - May 3

China

Army

118
79

June 9, 1941.

207

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
ALLISON DIVISION, GENERAL MOTORS CORP.

Shipments of Airplane Engines

(

Actual
shipments

:
:
40

January

May 24 - June 22

June 23 - July 20
July 21 - Aug. 17
Aug. 18 - Sept. 14
Sept. 15 - Oct. 12
Oct. 13 - Nov. 9
Nov. 10 - Dec. 7
Dec. 8 - Jan. 4

: Estimated shipments

: on existing orders

10
28
43

47

140
263
233
154
228

41

January 5 - February 1
February 2 - March 1

193
323

March 2 - 8.

77

March 9 15

80

March 16 - 22
March 23 - 29

53

March 30 - April 5

pril 6 - 12

103
71

88

April 13 - 19
April 20 - 26
April 27 - May 3

19

May 4 - 10

38

21

9

May 11 - 17
May 18 - 24

118

May 25 31

79

June 1 - 7

91

June 8 - 30
July
August
September

October
November
December

93

330
475
580
700
800
900

1,000

42

January

February

fice of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.

1,000
730

June 9, 1941.

208
EXPORTS OF PETROLEUN PRODUCTS, SCRAP IRON AND SCRAP STREET

FROM THE UNITED STATES TO JAPAN, RUSSIA, SPAIN, AND GREAT BRITAIN
AS SHOWN BY DEPARTURE PERMITS GRANTED

Week ended June 7. 1941
:

RUSSIA

SPAIN

:

:

JAPAN

GREAT BRITAIN

:
STROLEUM PRODUCTS

Fuel and Gas 011 (including
Diesel 011)

120,070 Bbls.

--

157,250 Bble.

--

57,000 Bbls. 318,678 Bbls.

Crude -

Blended or California
High Octane Crude*
All Other Crude

-

--

--

-

--

--

Gasoline -

Gasoline A**
Gasoline B*

--

12,750 Bbls.

All Other Gasoline

----

64,000 Bbls.

305,000 Bble.
104,000 Bbls.
--

ubricating 011 -

Aviation Lubricating 011***
All Other Lubricating 011
Tetraethyl Lead***

--

24,402 Bble.

-

---

34,800 Bble.

48,350 Bble.
6,762 Bbls.

-

--

--

--

--

--

-

-

"Boosters", such as IsoOctane, Iso-Hexane, or
Iso-Pentane
SCRAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL

Number 1 Heavy Melting Scrap

--

All Other Scrap

-

--

10,800 Tons

-

--

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.

June 9. 1941.

Source: Office of Merchant Ship Control, Treasury Department.

Any material from which by commercial distillation there can be separated
more than 3 percent of aviation motor fuel, hydrocarbon or hydrocarbon
mixture - President's regulations of July 26, 1940.

Aviation Gasoline.

As defined in the President's regulations of July 26, 1940.

Hanny White

209

June 9. P.M.
An all-out defense program to utilize effectively our labor

resources.

This would involve the following steps:
1. A great expansion of the plans prepared by the services
and the OPM for defense articles.
2. A separate program of defense construction which could
employ most of those now unemployed.

3. In order to carry this out, give the Federal Works

Agency as much as $5 billion to employ at regular rates of pay
2-1/2 million persons on defense projects which will otherwise
not get done:

a. Airports

b. Roads

C. Defense plants
d. Defense housing

e. Utilities in defense towns

4. Unify the present labor training program under a single
director of labor training and supply and enlarge it so as to give
training to enough men wi th appropriate skills to break the ap-

proaching bottlenecks at the level of the expanded program.

5. Keep WPA at the project level to take care of the residue,

if any.

This program is based upon the fact that the present defense
program is leaving unused approximately 7 million persons who are
unemployed and seeking work and possibly 5 million who would be
seeking work if there were enough jobs. The program for the coming

year is officially stated to involve the direct and indirect employ-

ment of not more than 3 million of these persons and the armed

forces will absorb only another million.

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JUN 9 1941
Ny dear No. Secretary

I have your letter of May 20, 19th. (a 800.52 w
enclosing a draft of a press release covering the payments - Jane
15. 1941, on obligations of foreign governments to the United States
arising out of the World May, and asking for - comments as to have
this matter should be mailed.
The Treasury does not believe that any change should be

made at this time in the soutine procedure under which notices of
amounts due from detter governments have been transmitted to the

representatives of such governments in this country. Therefore,
I - enclosing copies of notices of amounts due on June 25 and
July 1, 1942 from various debtor governments, and will be did as
you will transmit such notions to the respective governments which

have representation in this country.
Very touly yourse
(Signed) H. Morgentham. Jr.

Secretary of the The Renerable,

the Secretary of State.

Recleanses. sent in duplicate
File to Mr. Thompson
VTH1m1b 6-6-42

By

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- OF - - -

-

The following statement shave the - - water the Senting and on June 15. 1942 and July 2. 1948

Principal

Internal

June 15. 1942

R,800,000.00
1,500,000.00

$4,195,000,00

Hereterium

State

denta
aland

I

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Britain

was

$6,400,000,00

the

19.

92,405,00

Read

30

mails

-

melovia
Total Ame
15. 1940

..... $75,450,297.98

July 2. 19
$175,000.00

-

I

- OF ACCOUNTS
June 4 194

413,169.45

2.

!

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STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF

FROM DECEMBER 15,AND
1932, TO
DECEASED 15, 1940, INCLUSIVE,
19.2001

Instine Account
Principal
Interest

Annuity under
Assember

Total of amounts due
from December 15, 1932 to

December 15, 1940, inclusive

$36,100,000

$99,988,000 $7,214,809.20

I das June 15. 1941:
Principal of bond No. 16 on account of
pre-araistice indebtedness

$2,900,000.00

Principal of bond No. 16 on account of
post-armistise indebtedness.

1,900,000.00

Semiannual interest due June 15, 1941, on
bonds Nos. 8 to 62, aggregating $237,600,000
representing post-armistice indebtedness, as
provided for in the funding agreement of
August 18, 1925

4,158,000.00

Sixteenth seniannal installment of the annuity
due June 15, 1941 on account of the

moratorium agreement of June 10, 1932.
Amount due

184.453,81

89,442,453.88

213

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE GOVERNMENT

25. 1910. 28. 1902

OF CEROMOSLOVAKYA FROM J 15, 1933 TO

Examine Account

Principal

Interest

Amerity under
Merchants

Account

Total of amounts due
from June 15, 1933 to

December 15, 1940, inclusive

$23,670,085.83

$2,713,191.70

I due June 35. 1961
Principal amount of bond No. 32

- June 15, 1941, under agree

most of Ostober 13, 1925

$1,500,000.00

Sixteenth sessional installment
of the annity das June 15, 1942
on account of the montarism
agreement of June 10, 1932
Amount due

$1,682,812.78

214

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE COVERNOR OF
THE REPUBLIC OF ESTONIA FROM DECEMBER 15, 1932

TO DECEMBER 15. 1040. ARD 100 16. 1942
Lundles Account

Amaily under
Meratorium

Principal

Internal

$1,146,000

$4,835,610

Assessment

total of amounts due from
December 15, 1932 to

December 15, 1940, inclusive

$548,779.35

eat doe June 15. 1941,

Senteensal interest due June 15, 1941
ea bonds Mos. 19 to 62 and 12-A to 54-A

$866,210.00

Interest accreed from Dec. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 ea principal anounts of
boads aggregating $1,146,000 which astured

from Des. 15, 1932 to Dec. 15, 1940, inclusive

Sixteenth sendannual annuity due June 15, 1941
on account of the maratorium agreement of
June 11, 1932

Amount des

20,055.00

16.511.22
$322,890.89

215

STATEMENT OF AMOUNT DUE FROM THE COVERAGE
OF THE REPUBLIC OF FINLAND
1942

I the June 15. 1941
Semiannual interest - June 15, 1941
on bonds Nos. 19 to 62

Sixteenth semionnual installment of monity
due June 15, 1941 on account of the
maraterium agreement of May 29, 1932

$139,037.50

19,030.50

First a installment of musicy
due June 15, 1941 on account of the

moratorium agreement of May 1, 1941
Amount due

19,695.06
$171,763.06

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216

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DEE FROM THE - OF -

REPUBLIC
OFAND
FRANCE
FROM 15, 1930 TO 15.
1910.
- 15.

Primaries

Total of - due from

Dec. 15, 1932 to Dec. 15
1940, inclusive

under

Internal

$439,739,188.79 $364,795,795.00 $45,703,195.80

I das Jane 15. 1941,
Principal of board No. 16 due
June 15, 1941

$91,728,872.98

Semiannual interest das June 15, 1941
on bonds Nos. 16 to 62

34,135,563.71

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 on principal anomate of
bonds Nos. 8 to 15, aggregating $436,730,128.79
which satured from June 15, 1933 to June 15g 1940

4,357,302.29

Sixteenth installment of the month

due June 15, 1941 - - of the maratorian
agreement of June 10, 1932.

I due

$93,270,617.30

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TO

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE OF GREAT BRITAIN FROM - 15, 1933

25. 1910.

15.100

Immity under

Principal

Interest

Memberles

Total of amounts due

from June 15, 1933 to
December 15, 1940, inal.

$241,000,000.00

$1,397,699,481.

I doe June 15. 1941
Semiannual interest due June 15, 1941
on 19th to 62nd installments

$71,032,500.00

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 on principal installments
Nos. 11 to 18, aggregating $281,000,000
which natured from Dec. 15, 1933 to
Dec. 15, 1940

4,917,500.00

Sixteenth sentenceal installment of the
annuity due June 15, 1941, on account

of the masterium agreement of June 4, 1932.
Amount das

9,729,765.05
$ 85,670,765.05

218

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE GOVERNMENT

OF THE KINGDOM OF HUNDARY FROM DECEMBER 15. 1930

TO DECEMBER 15. 1940. INCLUSIVE AND - 10. isu

Annity under

Account
Principal
Total of amounts due from
Dec. 15, 1932 to Dec. 15,
1940, inclusive

$123,385.00

Memberium

Interest

$681,127.05

161,391.70

Amount due June 15. 1941

Semiannual interest due June 15, 1941
on bonds Nos. 18 to 62, and on balances

of principal mounts of bonds Nos. 63 to 65

$31,025.04

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 on principal amounts
aggregating $123,385.00 which natured
from Dec. 15, 1932 to Dec. 15, 1940

2,199.24

Sixteenth seriannual installment of the
annuity due June 15, 1941 on account of
the moratorium agreement of May 27, 1932.
Amount due

4,235.50
$37,410.66

NOTE: On February e, 1930, the Hangarian Government made a proposal for

a - arrangement to replace its funding agreement of April 25, 1924,

and moraterium agreement of May 27, 1932, which proposal was on March 28,

1938 transmitted by the President to the Congress for its consideration.

Subsequently, payments of $9,828.16 each were received on June 15, 1930,
December 14, 1938, June 12, 1939, December 13, 1939, June 14, 1940 and

December 13, 1940, by the United States.

219

STATEMENT or AMOUNTS DES FROM THE

TO I ML 15.1962
OF THE KINGSON OF ITALY FROM - 25. 1933

Total of amounts das from
June 15, 1933 to Dec. 15,
1940, inclusive

Priminal

Internant

$111,209,000.00

$19,172,416.76

-

I$19.448.199.39

Amount due June 15. 1941

Principal of bond No. 16,
due June 15, 1941

$16,400,000.00

Semianimal interest due June 15,
1941 on bonds Non. 16 to 62

2,351,875.00

Interest accreed from Des. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 on bonds Non. 8 to 15,
aggregating $111,200,000 which natured
from June 15, 1933 to June 15, 1940

Sixteenth sendannual installment of the
annity due June 15, 1941 on assess of

I-

the moraterium agreement of June 3, 1932.

139,000.00

996,155.00

$29,727,030.88

220

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE COVERAGE
TO

25. AND 14.184

or THE REPUBLIC OF LASVIA FROM - 25, 1930

Primare

Interest

Total of amounts due

from June 15, 1933 to
$463,700.00

Dec. 15, 1940, inclusive

I

under
Memberism

$229,111.00

Amount due June 15. 1941

Semiannual interest due June 15, 1941
on bonds Nos. 19 to 62 and 11-A to 54-A

8 111,494.25

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 on principal amounts aggregating
8463,700 which natured from Dec. 15, 1933 to
December 15, 1940, inclusive

8,114.75

Sixteenth conformal installment of annuity

due June 15, 1941 on account of the monterism
agreement of June 11, 1932
Amount due

15.374.26
$134,883.26

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-

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE GOVERNOUS

OF THE REPUBLIC OF LITNUANIA FROM JUNE 15, 1933

TO MO. 15. 1940. XWOLDSXVX. AND are 15.1941

Principal
Total of amounts due from
June 15, 1933 to December
15, 1940, inclusive

$364,160.00

Interest

$1,661,355.37

Amaility under
Meratorium

Account

$205.219.90

Amount due June 15. 1941

Principal of bond No. 17 for $49,000
and principal installment amounting
to $3,425 ea bonds Nos. 63 to 71,

due June 15, 1941

$ 52,425.00

Semiannual interest - June 15, 1941

on bonds Nos. 17 to 62 and balance of

principal amounts on bonds Nos. 63 to 72

101,410.87

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940 to
June 15, 1941 on principal amounts
aggregating 8364,160 which natured
from June 15, 1933 to June 15, 1940

6,372.80

Sixteenth semiannal installment of assuity due
June 15, 1941 on account of materian
13,683.26

agreement of June 9, 1932
Amount doe

$173,891.98

222

STATEMENT OF AMOUNT DUE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF

THE REPUBLIC OF POLAND FROM DECEMBER 15, 1932

TO 15. 1940. INCLUSIVE AND THE 15. 1943
Assessment

Principal

Interest

$13,632,000.00

$60,995,960.00

Amaility under
Moratorium

Total of amounts due

from Dec. 15, 1932 to
Dec. 15, 1940, inclusive
Amount doe June 15. 19ALL

Semiannual interest due June 15,
1941 on bonds Nos. 19 to 62 and

$ 3,344,250.00

12-1 to 55-A

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940
to June 15, 1941 on bonds aggregating
$13,632,000 which natured from
Dec. 15, 1932 to Dec. 15, 1940

238,560.00

Sixteenth sexiannual installment of

Amount due

.

the annuity due June 15, 1941 on account
of the moratorium agreement of June 10, 1932

456,229.71
$4,039,039.71

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223

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM 1 -

TO 16. 1910. 14.1011
OF THE KINGDOM OF INDIANIA FROM - 25, 1933

Principal
Total of amounts due from
June 15, 1933 to Des. 15,
1940, inclusive

$11,630,560.63

Interest

Amounts under
MARATHON

$2,722,679.49 $231,251.20

Issuat - June 15. 1941
Principal of bond No. 16

- June 15, 1941

8 445,000.00

Sextanemal interest das June 15, 1941
on bonds Nos. 15 to 62 aggregating

$51,860,560.43 as provided for in the
funding agreement of Dec. 4, 1925

907,559.82

Sixteenth sexianual installment of the
annuity due June 15, 1941 on account
of the moratorium agreement of June 11, 1932.
Amount due

48,750.00
$1,401,309.89

/

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE 08
YUGOBLAVIA FROM JUNE 15, 1932 to

15. 1910. TECLNSIVE. AND - 15. 1941

Principal

Interest

Total of amounts due from
June 15, 1932 to

Dec. 15, 1940, inclusive

$3,211,000.00

$385,156.28

I due June 15. 1941
Principal of bond No. 16,
due June 15, 1941

Semiannual interest due
June 15, 1941 on bonds
Nos. 16 to 62

8 524,000.00

146,030.00

Interest accrued from Dec. 15, 1940

to June 15, 1941 on principal

amount of bonds aggregating
$3,213,000 which natured from
June 15, 1932 to June 15, 1940.
Amount due.

8,032.50
$678,062.50

224

225

/

STATEMENT OF AMOUNTS DUE FROM THE GOVERNMENT

OF GRENCE
1911. FROM JANUARY 1, 1933 TO JANUARY 1,

Primarial

Internal

-

Merstorian

Total of amounts due
from Jan. 1, 1933 to

$2,810,000.00

Jan. 1, 1941, inclusive

$69,987.50

$200,711.20

Amount due July 1. 1941

Principal of bond No. 27 due

July 1, 1941, under Part I of
agreement of May 10, 1939

$175,000.00

Seventeenth sections installment
due July 1, 1941, under
paragraph I(a) of moretorium

13.169.15

agreement of May 24, 1932
Amount das

$188,169.45

226
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

In reply refer to

May 28, 1941

EA 800.51 W 89/1142

My dear Mr. Secretary:

About this time each year it has been customary for
this Department to send governments indebted to the
United States statements of the amounts due and payable
June 15. However, exceptions have recently been made to

this in the case of certain countries, and these exceptions
have been covered by statements in press releases of this
Department that no notices have been sent to the representatives of Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Latvia and

Lithuania in view of current governmental conditions in
those countries.

Under existing circumstances I deem it undesirable
to send notices to the debtor governments now defending
themselves against agression, to some of which we are

at present extending aid under the Lease-Lend Act. This
would eliminate notices to all countries having payments
due

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

227

-2due June 15, 1941 except France, Hungary, Italy and
Rumania.

Questions as to the payments due June 15 are likely

soon to be raised by the press. If notices are to be
sent to some countries and not to others, it would probably
be desirable to issue an explanatory statement for the

information of the public and for the record. A draft
of such a statement is enclosed. The alternative would
be to send no notices to any of the debtor governments

and to inform the press either orally or through a press
release that in the existing circumstances it 18 believed
that no useful purpose would be served by the dispatch

of the customary notices and that such notices are not
requisite under the terms of the debt agreements.

I should be glad to have your advice as to the
handling of this matter.
Sincerely yours,

/8/ Cordell Hull
Enclosure:

Draft of
press release.

228
DRAFT OF PRESS RELEASE

PAYMENTS DUE JUNE 15, 1941 ON OBLIGATIONS OF FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS TO THE UNITED STATES ARISING OUT
OF THE WORLD WAR

Statements of amounts due and payable by other govern-

ments on their obligations to the Government of the United
States arising from the World War have customarily been

transmitted to the representatives of such governments at
Washington a few weeks before payments are due under the

agreements with each country, although such notice is not
requisite under the terms of the agreements.
In view of current governmental conditions in
Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, no statements of amounts due from Czechoslovakia have been

rendered to that country since December 1938, and no
statements have been rendered to Estonia, Latvia and

Lithuania since June 1940. In view of the fact that
Greece, whose defense the President under the authority
granted him by Public Law 11, 77th Congress, has deemed

vital to the defense of the United States, is engaged
in a war of defense against unjustified aggression, no
statement of amounts due and payable by Greece on May 10,
1941 has been rendered.

For similar reasons, it is not contemplated that
statements of amounts due and payable June 15, 1941 will

be transmitted at this time to the representatives of
the Governments of Belgium, Great Britgin, Poland and
Yugoslavia,

229

-2Yugoslavia, which are also involved in war against the
common aggressors of Europe.

Legislation which would offer Finland an option of
postponement of amounts due in the calendar years 1941

and 1942 is now pending in the Congress, and it is hoped

that such legislation will be enacted before there is
occasion for Finland to consider the payments due June 15,
1941 or for the Government of the United States to
communicate with Finland regarding them.

The Department of State has today transmitted to
the representatives at Washington of the Governments of
France, Hungary, Italy and Rumania statements of amounts

due and payable June 15, 1941 on obligations of these

Governments to the United States arising out of the
World War.

Payments from Germany under its debt agreement of

June 23, 1930 fall due on March 31 and September 30 of
each year, and payments by Germany in respect of the

indebtedness of the Republic of Austria to the Government
of the United States fall due on January 1 each year.
Statements of amounts due and payable ha ve regularly
been transmitted to the German Embassy at Washington in
advance of these dates.

230

1941

by dear Mr. Velloo:

Reference is sade to your letter dated June 4.
1941, (RA). with which you enclosed a copy of a translation

of a memoranium presented to your Department w the Colombian

interester. setting forth the request of the Government of

Celebbia for financial and commonie assistance involving
eredite for public works and agricultural development perposes and cooperation with the Colombian Stabilisation Fund.

as you are suare. the question of extending
the life of this Treasury's Mabilisation Fund beyend June 30.
1941. is new before Gongress. Until final action is taken
thoresa, may I suggest the advisability of postponing any conversations between the Treasury and the Colombian Ambassador

with respect to the possibility of cooperation between the
American and Colonbian Stabilisation Funds.
Sincerely years.

(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the treasury.

The Renerable
Summer Velles,

Union Secretary of State.

HMG:1ap-6/5/41

231

PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
TO:

American Embassy, Rio de Janeta

DATE:

June 9, 1941, 11 p.m.

NO.:

385.

Reference is made to the Enbassy's
May 26, 10 a.m., no. 531.
The former Governor and Vice Governor of the Yugoslav National Bank have now been removed by the Government

of Yugoslavia. Mr. D. Lazarevich is now the Governor and
Mr. R. Bichanish is the new Vice Governor. The appropriate
authorities of the United States Government have been

formally advised of this change by the Yugoslav Minister
at Washington, who informs the Department that the
Government of Brazil and the Bank of Brasil have also

been advised of the change. He states that the Bank of
Brasil has new been requested by the Yugoslav National

Bank, through its appropriate officials, to effect transfor to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York of the

$11,250,000. This request is being supported by the
Yugoslav Minister at Rie and by the Yugoslav Minister here.

You are requested to try to get this request carried
through.
HULL

(AAB)

EA: FL:MSG Eu RA
EA:MSG

June 10, 1941
FROM TEE SECURITY
TO:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Foley
Mr. Cochran
Mr. White

Copies sent to the above

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
UNITED STATES COAST GUARD

SECRET

WASHINGTON

9 June, 1941.

Spagent, Hongkong, China.

Secretary of the Treasury.
Message from A. Manuel Fox.

Fox, Taylor, and Frese arrived Hongkong today. Fox states
confidential letter from Ambassador Gauss, Chungiding, intimates
group may wish to visit Shanghai before proceeding to Chunglding.

is in keeping with British interest to delay proceeding to ChungFox, however, is writing and wiring H. H. Kung that party is
to proceed to Chungking at the earliest moment. Fox prepared
following message en route to Hongkong:

"Had talk with Dr. Alfred Sze in Manila. We had oppartunity of studying the many memos and reports en route and able

to make critical analysis of British-Sino agreements, setting

forth points of similarity, dissimilar aspects, and early steps
hich agreements required board to take. I will forward a copy
1 this statement as soon as possible. In my talk with Sze, the
allowing outstanding points were discussed:
1.

Sze has been asked to visit the United States to aid

V. Soong. He expects to stay a considerable time.
2.

H. H. Kung is the weak spot in China. Lanier realizes

a unfitness and would like retire but his wife against such soon. Sze stressed that it is necessary to watch Kung as his
cisions are fickle and very changeable and it is necessary to
everything definite and in writing. Yadame Kung is the real

n

Lving force.
Chiang Kai-shek has done on the whole an excellent job
has held the Chinese together like few oan do.
3.

4.

Chiang Kai-shek has promised T. V. Soong finance minis-

ship after he has finished satisfactorily business now in-hand
United States.
5.

Chinese must compose their differences and present a

united front.
6.

The Japanese in China can easily be bribed. They have

to, pay as they go and corruption among the Japanese is increasing.

Use says that for a price materials can be sent through the Japanase lines.
7.

Sze is not well acquainted with the cooperative move-

but thought it was doing a good job. Reports are that it is
munistic, but this must not be taken too seriously.
8.

Sze is of the opinion that we are coming to China at

opportune time and that we can do much good for China. We dis-

ased industrial cooperatives with bankers and others in Manila.
Lye examined Carlson report and understand State Department criti-

- Its objectives seem good. Its possibilities for increasing
diable supply of goods real, but its plans require more funda-

tal basis before additional substantial financial assistance would
warranted. It seems worthy of early and serious consideration
bard."

SECRET

June 10, 1341
FROM THE SECRETARY.
TO:

Bell
Foley
Cochran
White

copies sent to the above

THE COMMANDANT COLUM BUARD
AND NOVER TO NL

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
UNITED STATES COAST GUARD

SECRET

WASHINGTON

From:

Spagent, Hongkong, China.

To

Secretary of the Treasury.

9 June, 1941.

Message from A. Manuel Fox.

Fox, Taylor, and Frese arrived Hongkong today. Fox states
that confidential letter from Ambassador Gauss, Chungking, intimates
that group may wish to visit Shanghai before proceeding to Chunglding.

This is in keeping with British interest to delay proceeding to Chung-

king. Fox, however, is writing and wiring H. H. Kung that party is
ready to proceed to Chungking at the earliest moment. Fox prepared
the following message en route to Hongkong:

"Had talk with Dr. Alfred Sze in Manila. We had opportunity of studying the many memos and reports en route and able

to make critical analysis of British-Sino agreements, setting

forth points of similarity, dissimilar aspects, and early steps
which agreements required board to take. I will forward a copy

of this statement as soon as possible. In my talk with Sze, the
following outstanding points were discussed:
1.

Sze has been asked to visit the United States to aid

T. 7. Soong. expects to stay a considerable time.
2.

H. H. Kung is the weak spot in China. Lanier realizes

his unfitness and would like retire but his wife against such aotion. Sze stressed that it is necessary to watch Kung as his
decisions are fickle and very changeable and it is necessary to
have everything definite and in writing. Vadame Kung is the real

ring force.
8.

Chiang Kai-shek has done on the whole an excellent job
has held the Chinese together like few can do.
4.

Chiang Kai-shek has promised T. V. Soong finance minis-

10 after he has finished satisfactorily business now in hand
ited States.
Chinese must compose their differences and present a

5.

ed front.

The Japanese in China can easily be bribed. They have

6.

as they go and corruption among the Japanese is increasing.

sys that for a price materials can be sent through the Japanlines.

Sze is not well acquainted with the cooperative move-

7.

but thought it was doing a good job. Reports are that it is
istic, but this must not be taken too seriously.
See is of the opinion that we are coming to China at

8.

Opportune time and that we can do much good for China. We dis-

d industrial cooperatives with bankers and others in Manila.
examined Carlson report and understand State Department criti1.

Its objectives seem good. Its possibilities for increasing

able supply of goods real, but its plans require more funda1 basis before additional substantial financial assistance would
warranted. It seems worthy of early and serious consideration
ard."

SECRET

238
June 9, 1941

Dear Jim:

Thank you very much for letting

me have your diary on your trip to
England, which I enjoyed reading immensly.

Yours sincerely,

Hon. James V. Forrestal,

Under Secretary of the Navy.

239
June 9, 1941

Dear Miss Thompson:

I am very glad to send you
a copy of the memorandum "College
Men and the War", as requested by
Mrs. Roosevelt.

With kind regards,

Yours sincerely,

/s/ Henrietta S. Klotz

Miss Malvina Thompson,

Secretary to Mrs. Roosevelt,

The hite House.

By Messenger

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Mr. Powel

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Mr. Johnston
Mr. Sloan

Ross

Campbell

Mr. Adams

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talk

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242
Brought in by Mrs. McHugh.

"The Secretary says will Mr.

Gaston please speak to him about
this."

From: MR. GASTON

243

When

GARDNER JACKSON
WEST KIRKE STREET

6/9/41

CHEVY CHASE. MARYLAND

m

Dear Mr. Morgenthau:-

In the midst of your manifold and heavy burdens in these crucial deys please forgive
to for posing my personal problem briefly. Were it not for my desire to contribute
what
I can to the tremendous common effort ahead of us, I would not impose upon you
this much.

When I pulled away from John Lewis last fall and pitched in with my nickel's worth
at the Hotel Roosevelt headquarters for F.D.R. and H.A.W., it was with the hope that
might subsequently return to the CIO operation under Phil Murray. Because of the
nature of my letter of resignation to John (which sprang from me without thought of
its effect on my future) and because of John's bitterness it seemed impossible for
Phil to do anything about me. I have understood and sympathized with his predicament.
In the internal workings of the CIO, especially around headquarters, I unwittingly
became by my action of withdrawal a symbol of the struggle within that organization.
Now, after these months during which I have collaborated behind the scenes with
various of the CIO forces trying to shake the control you see exemplified in the
North American Aviation and Woodworkers situations, I find that the long delay has
made it difficult for me to get a job back in the Government where I think I can
make the best contribution that's in me in the grave months ahead.

My role, as you know, has been largely that of public relations, promotion and
liason fellow for the efforts to which I have been attached, with a strong emphasis

on the civil rights side. My only craft is that of newspapering. In our years in
Washington I have been sort of a center of calls from most liberal organizations
and individuals for aid and advice.

In the punsuit of the causes that seemed good to me I have been reckless in the
dispensing of our limited funds and am now faced with the absolute necessity of

getting a moderate income to keep the family afloat. I am terribly anxious to get
that income, if possible, while trying to pull my weight in the defense effort.

My cronies down in the Department of Agriculture -- Milo Perkins, Paul Appleby
and the others -- have worked out a job for me pushing the school lunch program in

the field. It's an undertaking in which I'm definitely interested. But it will

require pulling up stakes here and moving perhaps to California. In addition to

the financial problem involved in our old house here (in which we now have a slight
equity) there is the more compelling problem psychologically of the associations
and relationships we have here. It is through them that we have our chief value
for the struggle to which we all dedicate ourselves.

The President, I think, has been told in a vague way by Jim Rowe about my predicament
and has indicated his desire to have my energies utilized. You know me well enough to
see just what kind of a bird I am and where, in any number of spots, I might function.
may say that the terrible events of the last two years have made me a much soberer,
middle-aged individual than you used to see. If you could spare the time, I'd welcome
conversation with you and would hope that you might mention it to the President. But
I honestly don't want to be presumptuous.

Yours sincerely,
Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
2211 Thirtieth St.,
Washington, D.C.

Gardner Jackson

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Customer

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

wiss
For

TO

DATE June 9, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau

CONFIDENTIAL

FROM Mr. Cochran

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

£114,000

£ 14,000

Open market sterling held steady at 4.03-1/2. Transactions of the reporting

banks were as follows:

Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

£ 4,000
£ 2,000

The discount on the Cuban peso widened further to 1-3/16%, as compared
with 13/16% on Saturday.

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below

were as follows:

Canadian dollar
Swiss franc
Swedish krona
Reichsmark

11-7/8% discount
.2321-1/2
.2385
.4005

Lira

.0526-1/4

Argentine peso (free)

.2368
.0505
.2070

Brazilian milreis (free)

Mexican peso

In Shanghai, the yuan was 1/32 lower at 5-11/32 Sterling was quoted
at 3.90, up 1/2
There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.
No new gold engagements were reported.

In London, the price fixed for spot and forward silver was unchanged at
23-3/8d, equivalent to 42.44
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35 Handy
and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 34-3/44.
We made three purchases of silver totaling 200,000 ounces under the Silver
Purchase Act, all of which consisted of new production from various foreign
countries, bought for forward delivery.

M.M?

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

CONFIDENTIAL

DATE June 9, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Hase ADA
Subject: The Business Situation

Week ending June 7, 1941.
Summary

(1) The BLS all-commodity index has continued to advance,
rising 0.2 point in the week ended May 31 to 85.2 (1926 - 100).
Basic commodity prices have tended to flatten out in recent
weeks, but some indication of a renewed rise appeared near the
end of last week.

(2) A growing shortage of farm labor threatens to ourtail production of certain canned food products and further
increase food prices. Except for California, the production
of vegetables for canning is concentrated in States where
distinct shortages of farm labor exist. The WPA is said to
be making additional efforts to place workers in agricultural
employment.

(3) Recent advances in national income have had continued
influence in increasing consumer purchases, especially of durable goods. A new study we have made to measure the intensity
of consumer demand points to the conclusion that considerable
advance stocking up by consumers is taking place.

(4) The urgent need for increased production of steel
plates for shipbuilding and freight oars foreshadows outs in
the output of steel sheets and strip for automobiles, refrig-

civilian Two more freight car buildclose down due to lack

ing erators,
and have
other had
to goods. ofrating
to steel, railroad but an
OPM
ordershops
granting
a special
preference

equipment builders' steel requirements is reported to be

imminent.

-2-

246

All-commodity index rises further
The accentuated rise in commodity prices which began the

middle of March was continued in the week ended May 31, when

the BLS all-commodity index rose 0.2 point to 85.2 (1926 = 100).
The subgroup "petroleum products* showed the largest advance,
increasing 5 percent in that week, while no other subgroup
index gained as much as 2 percent. Prices of basic commodities, on the other hand, have tended to flatten out in recent
weeks. (See Chart 1, upper section.) Near the end of the
week, however, prices of wheat, cotton, and a number of other
basic commodities again turned strongly upward.

The following influences on individual commodity prices
last week deserve special mention (see Chart 1, lower section):
(1) A threatened collapse of Japanese-Dutch Indies trade
negotiations stimulated buying and price increases at the end
of the week for import commodities from the Pacific area, with
advances in prices of silk and tin. Burlap and 0000a prices
have also increased, in response to uncertainties over the
Far East situation.

(2) Large quantities of foodstuffs, said to total 246
carloads, are reported to be en route to the Atlantic seaboard
for shipment to Britain before June 10. The Department of
Agriculture continues to buy heavily of various products.
Purchases of foodstuffs by the Department of Agriculture in
the week ending May 31 are listed in Table 1. Increases in
the prices of lard and cottonseed oil doubtless are in part
the result, directly or indirectly, of these purchases.
Farm labor shortage threatens higher food prices
A growing shortage of farm labor, which threatens to
handicap the production of various canned food products

needed for aid to Britain and for increased civilian and

military demand, may have an important influence in raising

food prices. Defense activity, together with the draft,
many areas. This has reportedly made it difficult for can-

has reduced the supply of farm workers far below normal in

to contract for the usual acreages of tomatoes,

and certain
vegetables conand ofother
these

ning string siderable companies beans, hand labor, prices canned which require products is

have been rising in recent months. The canning season be
now getting
under
way, and peak operations will soon
reached
in some
areas.

247

-3The relative supply of farm labor on April 1 this year

as compared with last year is indicated by Department of
Agriculture data showing the reported supply of labor (percent of normal) expressed as a ratio to the reported demand
(percent of normal). The farm labor shortage 18 most pronounced in the Eastern States, in which defense activity is
heavily concentrated. In most States the reported supply

of farm labor this year is substantially less than the reported demand.

The production of vegetables for canning (except for
the important production in California) 18 concentrated in

the general area where a pronounced farm labor shortage exists.

The ten leading States in the production of truck crops for
canning are shown in the following table, together with the
respective farm labor supply ratios:
Commercial truck crops

State

California
Maryland
New York

Indiana
Wisconsin
New Jersey
Ohio

Pennsylvania

Illinois

Minnesota

for processing,
Total farm value, 1939

Farm labor supply,
ratio to demand,

April 1, 1941

$8,722,000
4,674,000
4,541,000
4,462,000
4,196,000
3,943,000
2,476,000
2,446,000
2,107,000
2,046,000

91
74
69

77
80
72
73
73
81

86

Aid from CCC and WPA suggested

Two possible sources of additional farm labor for the

present emergency are the Civilian Conservation Corps and the
Work Projects Administration. A suggestion has been made in
the press that CCC workers might be assigned to harvest canning crops where labor shortages exist. The WPA is understood to be making somewhat greater efforts than usual to

place workers in agricultural sections.

Rise in employment and income continues
The recent increases in employment and income have con-

tinued in April, as the following table shows:

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-

April
1940

April
1941

Percentage
increase

National income

(billions of dollars,

annual rate, adjusted)

72.4

80.3

t 10.9

97.9

134.4

t 37.3

103.2

122.3

t 18.5

34,882

37,617p

t 7.8

Factory payrolls

(BLS, 1923-25 = 100)

Factory employment

(BLS, 1923-25 = 100)

Non-agricultural employment
(BLS, thousands)

The increase in the number of workers employed, which
has been more largely concentrated in manufacturing, has
accounted for about one-half of the 37.3 percent in earnings
of factory workers, the rest being due to increased wage
rates and increased hours worked. Thus, consumer purchasing

power has been augmented both by wages of the newly employed

and by increased earnings of those already employed.

The impact of this new buying is apparent in the reports
of sales of durable household goods, as the following table
shows. of course, the buying derived from higher incomes
has been reenforced by anticipatory buying against the day
when priorities and shortages will interfere with the normal
supply of consumer goods.

April

April

1940

1941

(units)
Ironers
Washers
Ranges

Refrigerators

Vacuum cleaners

11,984
135,179
43,308
339,693
140,223

Percentage

increase

(units)
21,789
213,611
65,692
482,498

165,672

t 81.8
t 58.0
t 51.7
t 42.0
t 18.1

The increase in buying of durable goods is also evidenced
by the FHA mortgages selected for appraisal, which show a sub-

stantial increase over last year. (See Chart 2.) Although a
decline is reported for the week ended May 31, this is largely
the result of holiday influences, and the final figure still
shows a continued wide margin over the holiday week of the

preceding year.

349

-5 Consumer demand shows substantial advance buying

Indications of the expanding volume of consumer purchases,
such as those given above, may not fully measure the intensity
of consumer demand, since they do not take into account the
influence of changes in price levels. If consumers buy the
same number of refrigerators, for example, after prices have
advanced 10 percent, it obviously indicates a stronger demand
for refrigerators than if that number had been bought at the
lower price.

We have constructed an index to measure the level of
consumer demand for selected items, taking into account the

effect of variations in price levels. (See Chart 3.) The

index provides a useful measure of the intensity of actual

consumer demand. It may also be used to indicate whether
consumers are buying more heavily than usual in relation to
purchasing power (indicated on the chart by an index of
"potential demand" based on national income payments).
It will be noted that the index of consumer demand rose

very sharply last fall, far exceeding the current purchasing

power of consumers, and has continued to rise. The buying
has been most noticeable in automobile sales and in rural
retail sales, but has also appeared in various other products.
Two conclusions may be drawn from this study: (1) advance
stocking by consumers has been taking place on a substantial

scale, apparently on the fear of restricted future supplies

and higher prices; (2) this is likely later to be replaced in
some degree by an offsetting curtailment of consumer buying.

Production problems confront steel industry
The urgent need for rapidly increased production of

steel plates for shipbuilding, railroad freight cars and

other requirements is one of the outstanding problems now
confronting the steel industry. Inasmuch as current demand

far exceeds the normal production facilities of the country's
plate mills, some sheet and strip mills are now rolling
plates. Furthermore, the OPM has indicated that additional
shifts in production from sheets and strips to plates are
in the offing. These shifts will reduce the amount of steel
available for such products as automobiles and refrigerators.
The extent of the cut is not yet known but more light may
be shed on this when a survey of the conversion possibilities

of the industry's sheet and strip production facilities is
completed.

250

-6Further evidence of the extreme need for additional
plate production appeared recently, when 2 more shops building freight cars had to close down due to lack of steel
plates, thus bringing the number of closed shope to 4. In
view of this situation, it is reported that the OPM will
issue an order during the current week giving railroad
equipment manufacturers a special preference rating in connection with their requirements for steel.

In addition to making changes in existing steel production facilities, the OPM has advised the Iron and Steel

Industry Defense Committee that the Government desires to

consider a plan for enlarging steel ingot capacity by about
10,000,000 tons per year in the shortest possible time and
has requested assistance of the committee in that connection.
Steel output near capacity
After declining moderately in the Memorial Day holiday
week, steel operations last week were scheduled to rise 0.6

point to 99.2 percent of capacity. Operations during the cur-

rent week, however, have again been reduced to 98.6 percent
of capacity.

As will be seen in Chart 4, both the important Pittsburgh
and Chicago steel districts have been operating recently at

slightly in excess of theoretical rated capacity, while
several other districts have made an even stronger showing.
Only the Wheeling district has failed at least to approximate
rated capacity operations, and in that case the tonnage in-

volved is not large.

New orders lower

Our index of new orders showed a steep decline for the
week ended May 31 to 169.0 from 224.4 in the preceding week.
New orders for steel and textiles both showed a very substan-

tial reduction while the total excluding steel and textiles

was off somewhat. (See Chart 5.) Since there is no real
shortage of new business, in view of the defense program,
the current decline in orders has much less significance
than it would have under normal conditions.

According to a report from the New York Cotton Exchange,

the domestic cotton goods market was still unsettled in the
last week in May, following the action of the OPACS in placing a ceiling on combed cotton yarn prices. Buyers expressed

251

-7 uncertainty about differentiale between various cotton products.
Trading volume increased again last week, however, 80 that
many
mills
in sold
the major
print cloth,
sheeting and osnaburg
divisions
are
up through
October.
Weekly business indexes higher

The New York Times index of business activity during the
week ended May 31 rose 0.6 point to a new record high at
129.0. This was the sixth consecutive gain in the index from
the mid-April low.
The gain in the index during the week mentioned was very
largely due to a sharp rise in the adjusted index of paperboard production, although four other components of the index

also showed gains. The principal offsetting factor was a
greater than seasonal decline in electric power production.
The adjusted index of lumber production also showed a substantial drop, and the adjusted index of miscellaneous freight
carloadings declined moderately.

Barron's index of business activity during the week ended

May 31 moved ahead at a faster pace than the Times index and
reached a new high at 134.6 as compared with 133.1 in the
previous week.

Preliminary data for the week ended June 7 reveal a
contra-seasonal rise in steel ingot production and a sharp
rise in automobile production to a level slightly above the
previous high for the year attained just before the Memorial
Day holiday week. However, the preliminary figures on automobile production may be revised downward because of labor
troubles at the Ford plants at the end of the week.

252
Table 1

A summary of foodstuff purchases made by the
Department of Agriculture
Week ended May 31

Commodity

Vegetables and fruit:
Apples, fresh
Beans, dry
Oranges, fresh

Tomatoes, canned

Immediate delivery

Future delivery

Dairy and poultry products:
Cheese, American

Eggs, dried
Eggs, frozen
Eggs, shell

Milk, dry skim
Milk, evaporated
Other food:
Lard

Pork meat products
Canned

Cured and frozen

Syrup, cane
Wheat, cracked

Quantity
65,115 Bu.
23,030,000 Lbs.
46,200 Boxes
419,596 Cases
635,800 Cases

2,353,569 Lbs.
157,000 Lbs.
2,137,920 Lbs.

35,600 Cases
400,000 Lbs.
392,800 Cases

4,260,000 Lbs.
170,632 Lbs.
1,230,000 Lbs.

10,000 Cases

900,000 Lbs.

MOVEMENT OF BASIC
COMMODITY PRICES
AUGUST 1939-100
PER

Weekly Average

CENT

PER

PER

PER

CENT

CENT

CENT

Daily

160

160

155

155

150

150

150
150

140
140

16 Raw Industrial
Materials

12 Foodstuffs

130
130

145

145

120
120

140

140

12 Foodstuffs
110

16 Row Industrial
Materials

135

110

135

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130

JULY

1941

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1941

6.

12 Foodstuffs

CENT

16 Raw Industrial Materials

CENT

21

JUNE

MAY

Percentage Change for Individual Commodities, August Low to May 29. and to June
PER

7

N
A

M

28

14

100

26

$

17

19

12

130

100

Tallow 12862

*120
*120

Cottonseed Oil 100.9X
+100

Burlap 93.2%

+100

Cocoa 88.6 %

Print Cloth 78.9%
Hides 71.8%

Lard 85.8 %
+80

Shellac 69.0%

+80

Coffee 73.2 %

Wool 53.0%
Cotton 36.4%
+60

Flaxseed 26.4%

.60

Hogs 46.7 x

Lead 232%

Wheat 43.3 %

Rosin 22.5%

Silk 18.1 %
.40

Sugar 30.7 %

+40

Butter 302%

Rubber 156%
Zinc 151%

Barley 29.4%

Copper 11.8%

Corn 14.9%

Steel Scrap.dom.

+20

+20

Steers 12.5%

8.7%

Tin 4.2%
0

Aug Low

May 29

June 6

0

"Steel Scrap.exp 2.7%

Aug. Low

May 29

June 6

P-187-R-4

MORTGAGES SELECTED FOR APPRAISAL. F.H.A.
Weekly

DOLLARS

MAR.

JAN.

MAY

JULY

SEPT.

NOV.

DOLLARS

MILLIONS

MILLIONS

40

40

35
35

30

30

1941

25

25

1939
20

20

15

15

1940
10

10

5
5

0

0

JAN.

MAR.

MAY

JULY

SEPT.

NOV.
Citizen

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Division of Research and Statistics

c 260 B

INDEXES OF CONBUSR DEMAND AND POTENTTAE
1935 - 1939 = 100, SEASONALLY ADJUSTED

1935

1936

1937

1938

1939

1941

1940

1942
PER

PER

CENT

CENT

140
140

130
130

CONSUMER DEMAND'

17

120

120

POTENTIAL DEHAND

110
110

100
100

90
90

80
80

1935

1936

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

1942

BASED ON DEPARTMENT STORE SALES. RURAL RETAIL SALES. AUTOMOBILE SALES, AND SALES
OF BEEF AND VEAL, PORK, BUTTER, CHEESE. OLEOMARGARINE. CIGARETTES AND CIGARS.
ADJUSTED FOR THE INFLUENCE OF PRICE CHANGES.

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Division of Research and Statistics

c 400

"Beeed on iron Age date

-

1942

1940

www.

1940

1941

o

Detroit
40

40

40

Cincinnati

o

0

o

Wheeling
40
40

40

Birminsher
o

1941

1942

0

40

40

so

so

YY

so

so

Cleveland

Buffalo

o

0

o

0

40

40

40

40

Philadelphia

80

so

so
so

120

120 120

120

160
160

140

o

o

200

200

Youngstown
40
40

0

o

so
40

so

so

120

40

20
80

160

160 120

120

200
160

200

160

200

200

240

240

Output

Output

280

280

240

240

320

320 280

280

MV

320

Pittsburgh
360

360 320

Capacity

Chicago

Thousands

/Capacity
Thousands

TONS

TONS

UNTONS

JFM

1940

1941

1942

1940

1942

PRINCIPAL PRODUCING DISTRICTS
$

0

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194

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Millions
TONS

1942

Weekly Tonnage

STEEL OUTPUT AND RATED CAPACITY

INDEXES OF NEW ORDERS
Combined Index of New Orders and Selected Components

240

240

230

N

230

220

220

210

Total

210

1999

1004 100

Index)
200

200

190

190

180

180

170

170

160

160

150

150

140

140

130

130

120

120

110

110

100

100

90

a
80

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70

8

so

40

Steel Orders

30

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10

Textile Orders

1 .85 D

258
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 9, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Haas

According to the attached tables and chart, Work Projects
Administration employment declined to 1,464,000 persons during
the week ended May 28, 1941, from the 1,474,000 employed during the preceding week. This represents a decrease of 96,000
persons from the number employed at the end of April.

Attachments

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WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

Number of Workers Employed - Weekly

United States

Week ending

Number of Workers

1940-41

(In thousands)

November 6
November 13
November 20

November 27
December 4

1,783
1,786
1,807
1,822

December 18
December 25

1,832
1,855
1,872
1,878

January 1
January 8
January 15
January 22
January 29

1,880
1,887
1,894
1,895
1,895

February 5
February 12
February 19
February 26

1,892
1,893
1,885
1,867

March 5
March 12
March 26

1,806
1,764
1,736
1,708

April 2
April 9
April 16
April 23
April 30

1,662
1,634
1,607
1,586
1,560

May 7

1,519
1,497
1,474
1,464

December 11

March 19

May 14
May 21
May 28

Source: Work Projects Administration

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WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

Number of Workers Employed - Monthly
United States
Number of Workers

(In thousands)

1938

July
August
September

October
November
December
1939

January
February
March

April
May

June

July
August
September

October

November
December
1940

January

February
March

April
May

June

July
August

September

October

November
December
1941

January
February
March

April

3,053
3,171

3,228
3,346
3,287
3,094

2,986
3,043
2,980
2,751
2,600
2,551

2,200
1,842
1,790

1,902
2,024

2,152
2,266
2,324
2,288
2,092

1,926
1,665
1,701

1,691
1,704
1,779
1,821

1,878
1,895
1,867
1,708
1,560

1,464

May

Source: Work Projects Administration

Monthly figures are weekly figures for the latest week of
the month.

They include certified and noncertified workers.

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WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION
Number of Workers Employed

United States

Weekly V.P.A. Employment

-

Monthly W.P.A. Employment
MILLIONS WILLIONS

- FORM ML m /

MAY

1942

1941

1940

BORKERS WORKERS

WILLION

2.7

IDES

239"

MORELAS

2.4

2.6
3.2

2.5

1.2

2.5

2.4

2.4
2.3

2.8

2.3
2.8
2.2

2.2
2.1

2.4
2.1

2.0
2.4

2.0
1.9

2.0 1.9
1.0

2.0
1.8
1.7

1.7
1.4
1.4

1.6

1.4
1.5

1.5
1.4

1.2

1.4
1.3

1.3
1.2

.8

1.2
1.1

1.1
1.0

A

1.0
.

.9

.8

0

119

1935 1936

1937

1939

1940

JAN.

1941 '42
SOURCE: WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

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Office of the Secretary of the Treasury

MAR.

MAY

JULY

1940

SEPT.

NOV.

JAN.

MAY

JAY

1941

SEPT.

NOV.

-1942

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me.

2 221 c

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BRITISH EMBASSY,

PERSONAL AND
SECRET.

WASHINGTON, D.C.

June 9th, 1941

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the latest
report received from London on the military

situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halifax

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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Telegram from London dated 6th June, 1941.
Naval.

1.

M.T.B. 215 Night of June 2nd/3rd intercepted auxiliary schooner, reported to be Turkish,
north of Cyprus. She was set on fire, heavy

explosion followed. Believed carrying petrol and

had fake papers.

Government dredger sunk, possibly by mines,

2.

or torpedo, entrance to Lagoe harbour on June 4th.
on June 4th German tanker was intercepted
3.
by Maradale O.B.V. in 43 degrees 38 minutes north,
28 degrees 15 minutes west.

In position 43 degrees 32 north, 23 degrees
56 minutes west at 2030 June 4th, Nelson and Neptune
intercepted a German supply ship. Ship scuttled and

4.

finally sunk by Neptune. Sixty eight prisoners
including 32 naval personnel. of the latter two
stated they were from Bismarck. Prisoners state
they left a French Port a fortnight earlier in connext n with Bismarck's operati

Armed boarding trawler Northern Sky shot
5. down HE 111, 220 miles west of the Faroes a.m. June 5th.
Nine aircraft bombed Alexandria night of
6.

June 4th/5th. No naval damage.

East Coast convoy south of Aberdeen twice
70 attacked by aircraft on June 5th. One ship on

fire, assistance sent. One tanker damaged.

Military.

8.

left Irac. curna on Under June 3rd. orders from Euphrates Bagdad, bridge Iraqi at

Qurna forces is efficient, railway between UR and Samawa has

been repaired.
9.

Ethiopia. Our forces have crossed the river
in order to engage enouty artillery handle

of opposing Omo Lingah; crossing, they were obliged river. to man

their guns up escarpement east of
on June 2nd Italians attacked and dispersed

patriots 10. operational centre near Gimm.
11.

Royal Air Force.

5th. Two formations of 3 and 6
Blenheims, June the former escorted by results. 12 fighters, at-

tacked shipping with inconclusive

on June 3rd/4th, heavy

12. bombers successfully diterranean. attacked Benghasi June 4th harbour Lockhood and set
Maritan fire to aerodrome two petrol Rhodes. cistorns on at Beirut.

13. German Air Force. June off the 5th/6th. east const About of 30 sootaircraft attacked known 3 shipping more enemy aircraft of were 5. destroyed

land. on night Now of June 4th/5th miling total

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BRITISH EMBASSY,

PERSONAL AND
SECRET.

WASHINGTON, D.C.

June 9th, 1941

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information a copy of the latest
report received from London on the military

situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halifex

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

Telegram from London dated 7th June, 1941.
1.

26:-

a/m Upright at 2.0 a.m. May 28th landed a party

fourrailway
miles west
up
line. of Punto stile light, Calabria, who blew
2.

A.M. June 6th. Outward convoy attacked by U-Soat
120 miles west of Cape St. Vincent. Two shipe of 3,400 tone
and 1,400 tons, torpedood. Later at 0618 convey bombed by
Focks-Wulf. One ship reported sunk at 1400, further but
unsuccessful torpedo attack on same convoy made 80 miles west
off Cape St. Vincent.

Goastal aircraft night of June 4th/5th made reconnaissance of Narvik and Kirkenes. No unesual activity
observed. 3,000 ton merchant vessel in Vest Fierd near-

3.

missed.
4.

Norway.

There are indications of continuous

troop movements northward from Oslo to Trondhjem and Mosjoen.

Believed tanks, estimated at six divisions are at present
north of Trondhjem.
5.

At 1900/June 6th two battle oruisers and Prina

6.

Eight bomber command aircraft attacked convoy of

Eugen were still at Brest.

eight or nine ships and escort vessels off IJmiden a.m.
June 7th. Two shipe of 5,000 tone each bombed and hit
from 100 feet, claimed total losses.
7.
Hight of June 4th/June 5th. Wellingtons from

Egypt made successful attacks on Benghasi Harbour and Derna
aerodrome and Kattanec aerodrome at Rhodes.

on June 5th three Blenheims from Palestine set
fire two hangars Aleppo aerodrome.

8.

Syria,
syria via Rhodes.

9.

Modern French bombers reported arrived

Believed Italians have offered Antiaircraft equipment to the French in Syria.

10.

Iraq. Remainder of Indian battalions arrived

Mosul by air on June 4th, 300 already having flown there.
One British battalion was proceeding to Mosul from Habbaniya via Bagdad June 6th.
Northern column and part of southern
Abvesinia.
11.
one have now crossed River Omo in advance to Ginna.

12.

French West Africa. on June 4th single aircraft,

believed French Glenn-Martin bomber from Conakry, made reconnaissance of Freetown and aerodromes sierra Leone at

1500 feet. On being engaged by Anti-aircraft fire aircraft replied with machine guns.
German Air Force. Night of June 6th-June

13. 7th about 50 aircraft operated against constal shipping and
One destroyed by fighter.
17 inland.

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MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION

TENTATIVE LESSONS BULLETIN

WAR DEPARTMENT

No. 117
G-2/2657-235

Washington, June 9, 1941

NOTICE

The information contained in this series of bulletins
will be restricted to items from official sources which are

reasonably confirmed. The lessons necessarily are tentative

and in no sense mature studies.
This document is being given an approved distribution,

and no additional copies are available in the Military Intel11, nce Division. For provisions governing its reproduction
see Letter TAG 350.05 (9-19-40) M-B-M.

NOTES ON THE GERMAN INVASION OF GREECE

SOURCE

Those two sketches appeared in the authoritative German

newspaper, Volkischer Beobachter, the first on April 18 and the
second on April 21, 1941. Intended propagandistic effect should
not be overlooked in either case.
CONTENTS

1. THE BREAK-THROUGH INTO GREECE

a. The Terrain
b. Enemy Situation on the Day of Attack

C. The Decisive Tank Thrust
d. Capitulation of the East Macedonian Army

2. ON THE BRITISH AIR FIELD AT LARISSA

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NOTES ON THE GERMAN INVASION OF GREECE

1. THE BREAK-THROUGH INTO GREECE

a. The Terrain
The few roads that lead into Greece run through deep narrow
mountain valleys, and there are no other routes over which an invading force can pass. The points at which these approach roads
debouch from the mountains are, however, on Greek soil, and at
the time of the German march into Greece they were blocked by

strong fortifications of all kinds. Figuratively speaking, the

Greeks had their barrier forts arranged like stoppers at the end
of long, narrow bottlenecks. These stoppers had to be pushed out
if the way was to be cleared southward to the Thracian and
Macedonian plains, towards Salonika, and to the Aegean. The fight
to accomplish this end was the first phase of the campaign in the
southeast.

b. Enemy Situation on the Day of Attack
The Greek defense of the mountain exits had been developed

into a system representing a continuation of the Metaxas Line. This

defense system, organized in the years 1938 to 1940, when our West
fall was built, was a modern system consisting of armored works,

concrete bunkers, field fortifications, and searchlight and alarm
stations. All these were built in accordance with the latest
military experience.

The works were located deep in the rock, and the fact that
their checkerboard arrangement enabled one bunker to cover the other

made the capture very difficult. In and behind the line of forti-

fications was the Greek Macedonian Army of approximately 50,000 men -

about four active divisions and one reserve division under the
command of General Bakopulos.

Nearly all of the Greeks were under 23 years of age. Since
all of them had been in the army at least since the spring of 1939
and in the Metaxas line for at least six months, they were well
acquainted with the works, operation of the equipment, and localities.
In addition, they had been given plenty of practice in the use of

the arms of the fortifications. There were very strong fortifica-

tions on both sides of the passes. There were no Englishmen found

in the first line, but the best of the Greek forces were located

in the fortifications.

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At 5:20 A.M. on April 6, 1941, German divisions set out over
all the approach routes to attack Greece. The first works were captured in hand-to-hand fighting, but we soon found that we had in the
Greeks an extremely brave adversary. It was not easy for our Stukas

and heavy artillery to get to them, particularly on the right wing
and in the well placed mountain fortifications. Bunker after bunker

had to be taken, because the separate works, which were so con-

nected that they could cover and assist each other with their fire,
threatened to stall the German advance at certain points. They
offered a good distant view towards Bulgaria and into the German

assembly positions.

From all sides - even from the bunkers that had already been
crushed - the advancing Jaegers, riflemen, pioneers, and artillerymen continued to receive heavy fire. The mountain fortifications
were arranged, like warships, on the principle of the bulkhead
system; they were not decisively neutralized even after a considerable
part had been destroyed and burnt out. All the openings had to be
filled and blocked and the openings to the works had to be blown up
before we finally attained success.
The Greeks defended themselves bravely and stubbornly, but

they were eventually forced to give way to the numerical superiority

of the Germans, who would not allow themselves to be shaken loose

once they got a foothold in the fortifications.

The thick fog and rain that came during the first night and
the second day of the attack partly blinded the defense and aided
the attackers. When storming one fort, ve could not be seen by the

artillery of sister forts; thus we could deal individually with one

fort after another and even push in between works. During the first
night, some of the attacking regiments succeeded in weaving themselves through the Greek lines and in capturing important points to

the rear of the enemy - particularly bridges that were still intact.

Whole battalions, however, were still fighting in the mountains.

The left wing did not appear to be as well garrisoned, and
an attack by weaker German forces soon began to make headway. These

forces first captured Komotini, then Xanthi; they later reached the
coast of the Aegean.

c. The Decisive Tank Thrust

As a result of resistance in Serbia, German forces concentrating against Greece were confronted with an entirely new

situation just before the attack. The whole right flank of the

armies marching southward was threatened by the Serbs, and in order

to avoid the danger of a Serbian thrust in the very region of the
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lines of communications, the German divisions, already deployed,
had to be regrouped again a short time before the attack. Tank troops

in particular were used for flank protection.

On the same, day that they crossed the Greek frontier the
mountain Jaegers and the infantry advanced to the attack over the

Bulgarian-Serbian frontier. They broke the light resistance of the
Serbs on the frontier, pressed on in a westerly direction, made a
swing of 90 degrees towards the south, broke through the Greek
frontier fortifications, and then made a continuous advance through
all of East Macedonia to the Aegean Sea.

While the mountain Jaegers and the infantry were still engaged
in a hard fight on the Hetaxas Line, Salonika, the Nacedonian capital
which lay far in the rear of the Greeks, surrendered to our tank and

motorized infantry formations. The tank thrust in car of the enemy

cut the Greek supply lines and surrounded their entire East Malgedonian
Army. Thus a further defense of the Metaxas Line would have been
senseless.

Here in the Southeast we repeated what the world had already
looked upon with amazement in the West, when our tank troops, advancing
over the Aisne in the rear of the Maginot Line up to Switzerland,

made useless a further defense of the French line of fortifications
and forced the capitulation of the French in Alsace Lorraine and in

Burgundy. The tank thrust through Macedonia toward the South, carried

out with scarcely any losses, resulted in the decision for which
troops had been fighting hard in the mountains for three days.
d. Capitulation of the East Nacedonian Army

The East Macedonian Army of the Greeks surrendered at about

1 P.M. on Avril 9, 1941, after a fight lasting three and a half days.
Article I of the terms of surrender stated:
"The parts of the Greek army fighting in East Macedonia are

to lay down their arms. There is to be an armistice at once.
Greek officers are to be allowed to keep their swords. The area
of the East Macedonian Army embraces the part of Greece from the
Turkish boundary up to the Vardar River."

Signing of the armistice marked the end of the first phase
of the carrosign against the British in Greece and those who allowed

themselves to be led by the British. The points at hich mountain

roads from Sulgaria debouch into Greece were in German hands. The
breal:-through had succeeded.
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2. ON THE BRITISH AIR FIELD IN LARISSA

We curved around the air field of Larissa, from which the
British and Greeks took off as late as yesterday. This morning the
first German machine landed here a few minutes after the occupation
of the city. Before landing, ve observed that our pursuit planes
were already on the field.
Ammunition was quickly unloaded, for we knew that the tanks,

pressing forward, would be thankful for a fresh supply of ammunition.
In the meantime, we were able to explore briefly the air field which
the enemy had lost.

We opened a creaking door that led to the quarters of flying
personnel. On the tables there was bread that had been cut perhaps
only a few hours before; there were also knives, utensils, tin cane,
letters, newspapers, packs, and various articles of equipment. English
signs on the walls indicated that it was the British whose meal had
been disturbed.

It was a queer scene which the enemy had just left. There
had apparently not been sufficient time to take along report pads,
paper supplies, regulations, and propaganda leaflets from the offices.
Drawers and boxes had been broken open in an effort to save certain
documents, but a number of mail bags had been left unopened. The
sleeping cuarters presented a gloomy picture - one that could have

been created only by chaotic flight.

Our ammunition was now unloaded and automobiles and motor-

cycles took it at top speed to the tanks, which had passed through
Larissa some time ago. We took off again to bring additional supplies
up to the front on the same day.

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G-2/2657-220; No. 412 K.I.D.,I.D. 12:00 M.,

June 9, 1941

SITUATION REPORT

I. Western Theater.

Air: German, Extremely limited offensive activity.
British. Unimportant activity on the 7th and
8th. Last night small attacks were made on Essen and Dortaund.

II. Mediterranean and African Theaters.
Ground: Minor activity around Tobruk and in the
Sollum area.

Air: Axis, A second heavy attack was made on

Alexandria on the night of the 7th-Sth. Raids on l'alta and
Tobruk.

British. Repeated raids on Derna and Bengazi.
Gombut and Capuzzo, both in Libya,were attacked.

III. Syria: Free French and British forces estimated at
1 free French Division (incomplete) and 2 British Divisions
have moved into Syria, apparently in 4 columns, as follows:
1 column N from Palestine, objective Beirut; 2 columns N from

Trans-Jordan, objectives Damascus and road net east of coastal
mountains; 1 column NW from Iraq along Euphrates, objective

Aleppo. Defense forces estimated at 49,000 in five or six
weak divisions, with uncertain morale. Only slight resistance
reported encountered. Germans reported to have moved out of

Syria. Invaders appear to have air superiority.

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CONFIDENTI AT
Paraphrane of Code Cablegram

Received at the Var Department
at 8:09, June 9. 1941

Lendon, filed 14:25, June 9, 1941.

1. Britter the Continent.
&

Richt of June L.
Right planes from the Rayal Air Force bonbod shipping

and docks at Bergen. One vessel of 400 tone displacement was struck,

2. German Air Activity ever Princis

s
German planes operated ever the East Coast of Britain

in the area Lewesteft-Marwich and the Inle of Wight and Farme Islands.

4. Eight of Jana J.
It is new known that 25 long range bombers were involved

is the operations of this night previously reported.

s

Day of June z.
The Germans employed 190 fighters, 25 long range bembers

and 10 recommissence planes in their attack on this day which has
previously been reported.

3. lesses Methish Theater.
&

No British lesses for their operations during the

night June 7-8 were reported.
&

During the German operations on the night of June 8-9

one plane was shot down.

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4. Asia Air Other Theaters.
s Benties Theater. During the night of Jane 7-8
a successful attack was made ea the harber of Alemetric w 44
German planes.

5. Since me British operations in other theaters were
reported there are no lesses.
During the German raid on Alexamiria Marber one plano

was shot down by antiairwaft fire.

Distributions
Secretary of Year
State Department

Secretary of treasury
Under Secretary of Var

Ohiof of Staff
Assistant Chief of Staff, G-3

War Plans Division

Office of Naval Intelligence
Air Carpe
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Paraphrase of Code Cablegram
Received at the War Department

at 06:42, June 9, 1941

Caire, filed 14:20, June 7, 1941.
Part 2.

1. Summary of Iraq situation continues.
2. The most sealous of the followers of Rashid All was from
among the young people in the visinity of Baghdad. Electhore he

had no large personal following nor did he have the leadership

required to attain popularity. His former harsh treatment of the
southern tribes told against him and he was completely lacking of
support at Mosul. Increasingly what support he had from the people

cooled off. In his overthrow of the government he was able to
secure a following because he personified the accumulated Anti-

British feeling widespread throughout Isaq.
3. When the Iraq Minister of War came back from Ankara to
Baghdad with the advice that Rashid resign, a split appeared among

the cabinet members which spread to the Army. Junior officers

were satisfied with the situation as it was but their elders were
of two minds and the prestige of Rashid All was undermined.

4. To further complicate his situation, he found himself
facing financial troubles. Before the overthrow of the government
the British blookade had already made the business situation in Iraq

very unsatisfactory. The dinar, the Iraq unit of value, had been
tied to the pound sterling. An inflation of Iraq money followed the
announcement by the British that the dinar was no longer guaranteed

in sterling. Even the British now drop the claim that Rashid All was
being bribed by the Masis. If so, it was on a minor scale. The

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treasury was emply and he had no - to pay the any an the
other hand, funds were available to his opposition.

5. Rashid All had planned to transfer the government to
Monal but the followers of the Regens Abutal Films, who had a large

following in that area, made difficulties about doing so.
FELLERS

Distribution
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury

Assistant Chief of staff, 0-2

War Plant Division

office of Maval Intelligence
Assistant Chief of Staff, 0-3

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SECRET
By authority A. c, os G-2

of Sade Babiogram

Received at the War Department

Date JUN 10.1941 Ro

Initials

as 06:42, June 9, 1941.

Gaire, filed thise, June 8, 1941.

1. Bezia. A Joint expedition of Britten and Free French
troops entered Byria at 02:00, Jane 8. Reporte covering the first four
hours state that the advences are proceeding satisfactorily without
opposition.

2. Mine. There is reasoned Anic activity by patrels and please
in the neighborhood of Sellum.

3. Alexandria. Two different formations of bombing please
at midnight and at 03:00 on the night of Jane 7-8 and again on the night
of June 8-9 heavily bombed Alexandria with ainer damage to military

targets and severe destruction in native quarters.
The morale of the Agretion people continues good, but

it cannot be expected to do se 1f the attacks are continued.
FELLERS

Distribution:
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State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Mater Secretary of War

Chief of Staff
Assistant Chief of Staff, 6-8

War Plans Division

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June 10, 1941

This morning I had breakfast with Mrs. Roosevelt
at 8:30 at the White House on the portico. She asked
me whether or not all young people could get jobs today.
She said she had asked Lubin to give her the facts on
it.

All day last Saturday I had been thinking about
this question of how we should take care of the unem-

ployed and train them for national defense. On either

Saturday or Sunday I called up Harry White and told him

that after reading his report, which I thought was in-

adequate and did not get down to the kernel of the prob-

lem, I thought we should think of this thing in three

pools. The first pool would be the unemployed - the WPA.
The next would be a training pool in which we would put

United States Employment Service, NYA, CCC and the

Studebaker Bureau of Education. This pool would train
the people who are necessary for industry. The final

pool would be industry itself.

Weeks ago Peter Odegarde told me that the America

First Committee would wait until England fell, and that
would be the signal for them to go to work, and try to
get their men in Congress next election so that they will
have control of Congress, and then run Lindbergh for

President. Knowing that if one wants to be realistic,
there is a possibility that England might go under, what
are we doing to prepare the country to withstand such a

shock? After all I went through with the experiences

of Huey Long and Father Coughlin, I know that they can
SOW the seed of dissension amongst the unemployed, and

that if every man and woman who are able to work in this
country had a job, neither Father Coughlin nor this
America First Committee could get very far with that group

of people. After all, it is a very large and important
group in this country.

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Ever since Saturday and Sunday, the thought has
been going through my mind as to what we can do to strengthen

the country from within to withstand the kind of shocks
that we may have to take if England should go under. If

England should go under, that would be a tremendous blow
to the President and his whole power would be weakened.

After seeing Mrs. Roosevelt this morning, I had
another talk with Odegarde, which was recorded by the

stenotypist. All day long I kept arguing with myself

as to whether I could, in view of my statement that I
wanted to save a billion dollars, recommend that every
able-bodied man and woman in this country get a job.

At supper, I was surprised that Harry White had
not taken up the suggestion I had made. He did not hand
me his five-page report that he brought last evening,

but it ought to be attached to this record to show that

when he came to supper he had not kept up with me. I
don't know whether he did not believe it or what, but
at the supper meeting neither he nor Coe brought up the
question. It was entirely my own recommendation and at

no time was I pushed by anybody. In fact, I think they
all were breathless when I said I had arrived at the
point where I felt that in order to make this country

sufficiently strong against Fascism and Nazism we would
have to put every able-bodied man to work and also
every woman, doing the jobs which are necessary in case

we get into the war, such as building strategic highways,
erecting bridges, increasing electric water power, etc.
Of course, this has been a tremendous transition

which has taken place within me, but I feel that with

the very black days which are ahead of us, we have to take
care of the unemployed so that there is one less group for
the Nazis and the Fascists to appeal to. At the same
time, if we give these people good jobs at living wages,
they will become a very important group who are not only
satisfied with this kind of government, but will be amongst

the best advocates to maintain it. I expect to make this
recommendation to Mrs. Roosevelt at lunch tomorrow.

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June 10, 1941
9:25 a.m.

RE AMHERST GRADUATION ADDRESS

Present:

Mr. Odegarde
Mr. Kuhn

Mr. Klotz
H.M.Jr:

Mrs. Roosevelt is very enthusiastic about the
speech. She wants a copy as soon as possible

for the I.S.S. Bulletin.
Kuhn:

International Student Service.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. I don't think she would want it in the

bulletin unless she thought it was good, would
she?

Odegarde:

I wouldn't think so.

H.M.Jr:

Before I get on that, I want to get this thing
off my chest. No one has told her what she is
to say tomorrow night on the radio. Would
somebody please send her some suggestions?

Kuhn:

Yes, we did send some.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it hasn't gotten to her. The way to get

it to her is to give it to Mrs. Klotz and

Mrs. Klotz will give it to her. Nobody has
told her what to say. That is number 1.
Mrs. Klotz has already gotten a message to her
about this young woman. She thought she would

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like to have it. Then she was told that
Irving Berlin had to leave the White House

tonight at nine thirty because he was going
to have a rehearsal on the steps of the
Capitol tonight.
Kuhn:

That is the Army song and they are not doing

it at the Capitol, they are doing it at the
War College, and I thought they were doing it
before the dinner, not after. It is not our
song. He spent the whole evening at my place

last night.
H.M.Jr:

She only had two suggestions. She said one

thing we can not do at this moment in the fate
of the western world - she doesn't like the
word "in." She says, let's put it some other
way.

Odegarde:

Why not say, "In the history of the Western

H.M.Jr:

Well, something. "We fought eighteen months

World"?

to win a victory by - and then we promptly
washed our hands of all the responsibility

we, as a democratic nation, should assume.
Then she has written here, "Ours is the only

disinterested - " Here we came back. We are
disinterested. We, of all people, should have
shown the way, but instead of that we went

back-Kuhn:

That is a very good line.

H.M.Jr:

We instead of that went back to our own reconstruction and washed our hands of the thing.

She said if you could work that in.

Kuhn:

Easy. It is very good.

H.M.Jr:

Otherwise she had no suggestions. Now, I am

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to you how this came - my little outline that
I gave to Ferdie, how it came to me. Do you
know the history of it?
Klotz:

Ferdie told me some of it.

H.M.Jr:

You see, Mrs. Roosevelt came for lunch and

Henry, knowing her great interest in youth

and its problems, unburdened himself the way
he never had to his mother or me, and talked

all of his doubts. I don't know whether I
have told you this or not.

Klotz:

No.

Odegarde:

Bob told me something about it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, then I waited a time and Henry and I

went for a long walk and I tried to answer his
doubts and those things which I answered I

subsequently wrote on a little piece of paper
and gave them to Ferdie, but there is where -

how my - and she was saying, "Well, what hap-

pened after I left?" and I said - well, my talk

and now this, but I said, "We have you to thank

for bringing out in Henry his doubts. And
this is another thing which is just a little
thing which she is - she is sending me over

her St. Paul speech, incidentally. She has
read, which I haven't, very, very carefully,
Cudahy's interview. She takes it very seriously.
I think this is interesting in view of what we
are doing. She says, "Now, one thing in the
thing is really understandable: When Hitler
said, 'You still have unemployed, you see.

So she said - of course, this isn't for this,

but she gave it to me. She said when people

talk and Hitler says well, his standard of
living is high and so forth and so on, the
thing that she uses and which is so effective

is, Well, all I can say is that I support an

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orphan in China. It cost me $20 a year. I
support an orphan in Finland. It costs me
$6 a month. I support an orphan in England

and the rate is still higher.
Odegarde:

$60.

H.M.Jr:

"And then I support one in the United States,"
which is true, and it costs me $6 a week."
So she said, 'That is my answer to the dif-

ferent costs of living. She says, "That is

my own personal experience." And she says,

"All of this goes down very, very well.

Kuhn:

Of course, the Egyptian pharachs had no un-

employment in their time, either, as one Peter

Odegarde pointed out.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I am in the throes between now and noon
tomorrow on this recommendation which we are

laying before her and I am getting around more
and more that we must give every person a job

in this country and there are plenty of things

to do but we can't get strong - I mean, between

now and noon tomorrow I have got to make up my

mind. We can't face a Facist world unless
every able-bodied person in this country has a

job. I am gradually getting to that point.

Klotz:

That is the idea.

H.M.Jr:

I am gradually getting to it, but of course

things that we can do with those people, the
roads we have to build and the thousand and
one things that we have to do which takes
years to do, I am gradually coming around. I
don't see how we can face the Fascist world

alone. It isn't just arms, it is the - she
said she had this letter in answer to this

Youth Congress, that they say they can't get
jobs, and she is asking Lubin whether it is

true or isn't true. It is in this thing we

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-5are facing, which is years - have we arrived
at a time we have got to give every ablebodied
man andiswoman
How
important
that? a job in this country?
Odegarde:

I think it is tremendously important, quite
apart from the economic angle. I don't think

the income and the actual groceries side of it

is as important as the fact that the individual

sense of significance, the sense of being a
part of something that is greater than himself,
is the real problem, so far as unemployment is
concerned. A man who is unemployed is literally
told that this society has no place for him.
"You are shut outside," and the devastating
effect of that on his morale, on his own sense
of personal significance, in my judgment, is
a most terrifying and the most serious aspect
of the whole problem of unemployment; and I am

not so sure of that, stating it in terms of a
job, as a job simply for groceries, but stating it as a job to do in connection with a

larger objective. I think that is true.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you put it far more beautifully than I

can, but let me argue with you just a minute.
Maybe I am a little more crass about it, maybe

not. I don't know, but this is what I am

thinking about. I am laying - these are the
things that I am checking off on the side, why
we should, you see. I think one of our troubles
in this country is that we don't - we are not
willing to face the really unpleasant things.
We have kidded ourselves about North Africa,
we have kidded ourselves about Viche and so

forth and so on. There is all this hoping for

the impossible. We have written off Viche,
the Mediterranean, and so forth. Now, the
next thing I am going to say is, following
what you told me about America first, I think
you at least have to say, "What do we do if

England falls?" I am not writing it off.

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Odegarde:

That is right, it is one of the continued

H.M.Jr:

And as you said, and it made a great impression,

things.

if England falls, that is the signal for
America first. Then if they go to town where
is the fertile soil? It is amongst the unemployed. I went all through the Huey Long,
Father Coughlin, the Reverend Mr. Smith, and

it is very, very vivid in my mind. If these
people are employed, there is practically no
fertile soil for them to sow the seed in. Is
that right?

Odegarde:

It is certainly much, much less fertile.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they can't SOW it there anyway. They

may SOW it amongst-Odegarde:

Sow it at the top.

H.M.Jr:

At the top. Well, I am not afraid of the top.
I am afraid of the bottom. The top part

doesn't - we can take care of them with the
taxes.

Kuhn:

In Germany it was sown among the barbers and

waiters and little employed people.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, well, if you are going - in Germany it was
sown on an empty belly, on the rickets and so

forth. I mean, that is - I mean, then the
inflation and - sum it up on poverty.

Kuhn:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Kuhn:

Yes.

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-7H.M.Jr:

I mean on dire poverty.

Odegarde:

When I was in Germany in '32 there were six
million people unemployed and there was nothing

for them to do. They were on the dole. They
were fed, they had housing of a sort. And you
can put people on the dole in the United
States and keep them from starving and keep

them out of the rain and the storm, but you

don't solve the problem of unemployment or

the problem of morale that way. It is only

as these people are given something to do
which makes them - even if the relief is pushed
up as high as their wage standards would be.
H.M.Jr:

Is that the economic conference you were at in
Germany?

Odegarde:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Is that the one?

Odegarde:

Well, I went to the Congress of the
Reichswirtschaftsrat.

H.M.Jr:

Is that the agricultural economy thing in
Germany?

Odegarde:

Yes, I think so.

H.M.Jr

What is the name of this man in England who

Kuhn:

Leonard M. Elmhurst?

Odegarde:

Willard Straight.

H.M.Jr:

Is that the same meeting?

Odegarde:

I don't know.

H.M. Jr:

The reason I am asking is that I was trying to

married this rich girl?

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-8bring up the message Dr. Warren brought back to

me from Germany and I placed it in '32 and

he is checking me. I was telling them last

night to look up the message he brought back

and the question of high interest rates and
the influence it had on me, Farm Credit,
trying to counteract, to eliminate that as an

argument, you see, in this country, and Warren,

I think, brought it back in '32.

So to come back to this thing, you think it
is very important?

Odegarde:

I think it is tremendously important, as I

say again, more from the psychological than the
purely economic standpoint.
H.M.Jr:

Let me tell you the way my mind is working.
What I have done is, you see we are presenting
this to Mrs. Roosevelt tomorrow noon. Are you
going to be here?

Odegarde:

Yes, I will be here until Thursday.

H.M.Jr:

I would like you to come to lunch tomorrow
noon. Let me just give you the way my mind

is working. We are only having - I put it up

to her and she approves - people at the White

House so that nobody can talk. That will be

Lubin and Lauch Currie and nobody else except

Treasury people. I am looking at this thing
as three pools of individuals in this country.

The unemployed will be given work to do through

WPA. Everybody that can work, men and women.

That will be number one. The second pool will

be the training pool for industry, which will
be the United States Employment Service, NYA,
CCC--

Odegarde:

Office of Education.

H.M.Jr:

And Office of Education. They will all be there

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under one head. Now, I am putting the employment service there because they should know -

industry will go to them and say, "Well, we

need so many people," and they will go and

say, "All right, how many do you need?" "Well,

we need 25,000 machinists, and then they go
and circulate WPA. "We need 25,000. We

would like volunteers." They train them,
and then the third pool is industry, you see.
Now, in order to even talk about it, we
couldn't have anybody present whose head might

be lopped or might get a new boss. But the

interesting thing is that the President gave
that job last June and July to Hopkins. He
played with it for a month and dropped it.
He never did anything about it. Hopkins
stayed with it for one month. He was given
that - the story that happened, the President
first started out and said, "Henry, you and I
are going to run this defense show. I had
the engines and the tools and so forth. I said,
"Fine, Mr. President. Then the next thing,
"Henry, you, Harry, and I will run this thing."
And Harry was to do all the training of unemployed. Hillman came over to see me and had
lunch with me and said, "Mr. Morgenthau, I am

going on the Hill for five hundred million

dollars to train people and I want to know how
should I do it," and he sketched the whole thing
with he working under Hopkins. He never went

on the Hill and the thing just - Hopkins lost

interest. The whole thing was there and of
course the next step was, the President put on

the Defense Council and I was on with the
Director of the Budget as an ex-officio member

of that first - the one that Knudsen and rest
were on, and I had the order here and I took

my pen and drew it through my name. I said,
"It is wrong and I don't want to be on it.'
I just drew a line through my name and said,

"I don't want to be on it."

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Is that the National Defense Advisory Commission?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. So we are going back and - of course,
I started trying to save money and I am ending up this way.

Kuhn:

The inception of this was the billion dollar
economy, wasn't it?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Odegarde:

I am not so sure, Mr. Secretary, that the two

H.M.Jr:

are incompatible.

I am not, either. I have got to do a little

mental gymnastics, but my mental gymnastics

that I am going through are that the figures
that we have got are that it is going to take

nine million more men and women in two years.

Well, if that is right, then WPA will dry up.
Kuhn:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

They will dry up. Is that what you are thinking?

Odegarde:

Well, they will dry up - WPA will dry up, yes.
The problem will be unemployables.

H.M.Jr:

The unemployables. Well, that is something
else again. But the employables ought to dry

up inside of a year. So if, during this year certainly the next twelve months will be as
difficult - I don't want to say they are going
to be the most difficult, but if during the

next twelve months with these various things

that might happen and we have the employables
on a good, sound footing and in a good mental

state, then we can get over that hump.

Odegarde:

I think so. I think you have much less to
worry about in morale.

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How many are unemployed now?

H.M.Jr:

Three or four million.

Odegarde:

There are all sorts of estimates.

Klotz:

Five.

H.M.Jr:

I am using the Industrial Board figures, three

and
lion. a half million. Three, four, or five milKuhn:

I don't think it can go very much below that,
two and three million.

because the number of unemployables is between

Odegarde:

But they are not on WPA.

Kuhn:

No, I am talking not about the number in WPA.

H.M.Jr:

The unemployables is another thing.

Odegarde:

There is a possibility, isn't there, that

WPA even in its present set-up may become a
very important segment of the defense program?
For example, they have done work of very sub-

stantial character in preparing landing fields

and so on.
H.M.Jr:

Well, this thing that we are preparing, everything that they do will be for defense, strategic roads and that kind of stuff. I mean,
we are in terrible shape on roads. We can't
just move troops up and down the Atlantic
border. From Richmond to Boston, the whole

plans are laid and have been laid for four

years by MacDonald. You try to move any

troops - all these cities, Baltimore and all

those, have to be by-passed. You can't move
any troops up and down the Atlantic Seaboard.
Odegarde:

You would never get them through Baltimore.

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- 12 H.M.Jr:

You would never get them through Baltimore,

and those things are the things that these
people should be doing. I mean, there is plenty
of useful work. Why, I went all through that
thing with MacDonald and the work to do I forget how many millions of roads and bridges

would have to be built that the Army will certify to just to move troops. That would keep
three or four million men busy, but it takes
years to do it, and now is the time to start.
Are you busy tonight?
Odegarde:

No.

H.M.Jr:

Well, keep it open, will you please?

Just a second, there is one thing here. I

thought what 1 would do - I showed this to

Gaier and Gaier said he had some suggestions,

and I said to write them out and give them to
you. You are going to show this to Gaston,
aren't you?

Kuhn:

Is it ready now to show to Gaston?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Kuhn:

I didn't know whether you wanted to do it yet.

H.M.Jr:

And show it to Harry White and ask him to
show it to some of the younger men in his place.
He has got some men that are just out of college

a couple of years. Let them see it.
In the first place, I want to name Admiral King
by name and then what would you think of my

sending this up to him, mail it, make sure it
is in nautical language? I am not quite sure
it shouldn't be in nautical language.

Kuhn:

I don't know. Herbert Gaston can tell us.

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- 13 H.M.Jr:

He wouldn't know, either. Is that what you

mean?

Kuhn:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Where is King?

Kuhn:

"I learned that the Navy always acts on what

the Admirals call--"

H.M.Jr:

Didn't I say I was out with the fleet?

Kuhn:

You said you were out with the United States

H.M.Jr:

And then I say with an admiral--

Kuhn:

King, Commander in Chief - he is that, isn't

Atlantic Fleet.

he?

H.M.Jr:

He is the Commander in Chief. What I was think-

ing of was this: If I could just have this

page done over, I thought I might mail it up
to him and I would say I would like to know,
one, whether this language is Navy language,

and 2, as a fighting man, how does the thing

appeal to him.
Kuhn:

I will have it done over.

Odegarde:

There is one other thing--

H.M.Jr:

Don't you think it would be interesting?

Odegarde:

Yes, I think it would be very interesting to

H.M.Jr:

Take this letter:

get his reactions.

"My dear Admiral King:
I am sending you herewith my proposed speech to

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April 14. You will see in my talk that I

refer to a conversation that I had with you
and I would like you to let me know, after
reading
talk.' it, whether or not I have used 'Navy

I also would very much appreciate your reaction

to the whole speech. What effect, in your
opinion, would it have on the enlisted men in
the Navy?

I want to take this opportunity to tell you

again how much I enjoyed my trip with you and

particularly the opportunity afforded me to
become acquainted with you personally.

Yours sincerely."

(The Secretary's address was delivered by
Lieutenant Stephens to Admiral King at Bolling

Field, Anacostia, without a letter of transmittal.)
Odegarde:

H.M.Jr:

Incidentally, you will have some Navy people
in your audience.
I am going to phone him and find out how to

get this letter to him, you see. Inasmuch as

we are using Navy language, I want to have it now, what you didn't use, and I don't know,
maybe you did it advisedly, we had in there

about calculated risk. You can say, for

example, Admiral Raeder must have sat down and

figured what is the calculated risk of sending
the Bismarck out. Well, he figured it and he
figured wrong. Did you leave it out on purpose?
Kuhn:

Yes. I didn't think it strengthened your argument, but it can be done.

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April 14. You will see in my talk that I

refer to a conversation that I had with you
and I would like you to let me know, after
reading
talk.' it, whether or not I have used 'Navy
I also would very much appreciate your reaction
to the whole speech. What effect, in your
opinion, would it have on the enlisted men in
the Navy?

I want to take this opportunity to tell you

again how much I enjoyed my trip with you and

particularly the opportunity afforded me to
become acquainted with you personally.

Yours sincerely."

(The Secretary's address was delivered by
Lieutenant Stephens to Admiral King at Bolling

Field, Anacostia, without a letter of transmittal.)
Odegarde:

Incidentally, you will have some Navy people
in your audience.

H.M.Jr:

I am going to phone him and find out how to

get this letter to him, you see. Inasmuch as

we are using Navy language, I want to have it now, what you didn't use, and I don't know,
maybe you did it advisedly, we had in there

about calculated risk. You can say, for

example, Admiral Raeder must have sat down and

figured what is the calculated risk of sending
the Bismarck out. Well, he figured it and he
figured wrong. Did you leave it out on purpose?
Kuhn:

Yes. I didn't think it strengthened your argu-

ment, but it can be done.

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- 15 H.M.Jr:

No.

Kuhn:

What I could do and what I thought of doing
was that you were in the operations room during
this Bismarck-Hood thing.

H.M.Jr:

No.

Kuhn:

You don't want to tell them that?

H.M.Jr:

No, but I think just - Oh, I think it would

be a compliment to him, sending it up there.

Klotz:

It may be you are burdening him.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation
with Senator Carter Glass.)

Klotz:

I couldn't hear what he said.

H.M.Jr:

He said, "that man from Connecticut, that
mouther." He wouldn't even name him, you see,

Danaher. I love this thing. Before the Lend-

Lease he would keep saying, "Why don't they

vote? Why don't they vote? All this argu-

ment. Let's vote! Let's vote!"
Klotz:

He is marvelous.

H.M.Jr:

You say you thought King would think it was

Klotz:

Yes. You are asking for his opinion and he

a nuisance?

has got to sit down and think about it. I
don't know.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I would like to know what effect it would

Klotz:

That is different, if you want it.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I would. I would like very much. Here

have on those men.

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he is. What effect would a thing like this
have on the enlisted men?

Odegarde:

Do you know Admiral King?

Klotz:

No.

Odegarde:

It might have a different effect on different

people, but I should think the normal person's
reaction would be that he likes to be asked

his opinion of something like this.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

Odegarde:

And unless Admiral King is different--

H.M.Jr:

No, no, he will like it.

Kuhn:

Mr. Secretary, you have some little checks in
the margin.

H.M.Jr:

I didn't do those. Somebody else must have done

it. This is Peter Odegarde's copy. His checks

are not mine.
Odegarde:

No, no, my copy went to--

H.M.Jr:

They are not mine.

Kuhn:

I can disregard them?

H.M.Jr:

They are not mine.

Kuhn:

Do you have any other--

H.M.Jr:

I can't find anything. I have sent one up to

my wife and to Bob and one to Henry now and as
soon as you can get a clean copy to Mrs. Klotz

mentioning King I want to send it up to him
and there is nothing major. There will be
little - whatever may come up, you see.

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H.M.Jr:

And that thing that Mrs. Roosevelt suggested,

which I am going to insert--

Yes, but when I send it to King I want it to
have his name in. I will find out this morning.

You are not afraid that this may get out before

Odegarde:

you deliver it? I think it will--

H.M.Jr:

Where?

Odegarde:

Oh, this I.S.S.

H.M.Jr:

I told Mrs. Roosevelt I wasn't going to send it

to her until the last word was finished. I
won't send her that until it is finished.

Kuhn:

"It is better to die on our feet than live on
our knees." That got in all right.

H.M.Jr:

The funny thing, Gaier or--

Klotz:

Gaier. G-a-i-e-r.

H.M.Jr:

That is the one thing he picked out.

Odegarde:

He didn't like it?

H.M.Jr:

No, he liked it, that Passionata or whatever

Kuhn:

She is not the inventor of it.

H.M.Jr:

I think it is--

Klotz:

You can't use it too much these days.

Kuhn:

It is a good saying.

Odegarde:

We need a good deal of that sort of thing.

the name is.

We need the "Don't Tread on Me" note in our
Defense Savings Bond copy, too.

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June 10, 1941
9:55 a.m.

HMJr:

Hello.

Carter
Glass:

Hello, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

How are you?

G:

I'm just fairly well.

HMJr:

Well, I hope you are not anything wrong?

G:

HMJr:

No, not especially.
I called up - I wondered
if I could come and see you
and find out just how we
were going to procede.

G:

Well, I can't tell until

after the meeting of the

Banking and Currency Committee

this morning.

HMJr:
G:

HMJr:
G:

HMJr:

I see.

I'm going to substitute the
I introduced on the question
of devaluation and I think we
ought to promptly pass it.
I see. Well, that sounds good.

House Bill for the bill that

Taft and this Connecticut mouther
always want to rewrite everything
that's done in the Committee.

Well, Senator, I'm at your
disposal and any time - I'd little
bit rather not doing it tomorrow
morning, but any time after two
o' clock tomorrow I'm available.

G:

HMJr:

All right, I'll try and get you.

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HMJr:

Yes, but I mean - I can come
up to see you tomorrow, but I

mean I little bit rather not
testify tomorrow morning.

G:

HMJr:

G:

Yes, all right.
But any - I'm free to run up to
see you any time you say at your
office or at your apartment.

All right, sir, I'm perfectly

willing to run down to see you.

HMJr:

Oh no. It's a privilege, I like

G:

Very well, I'll communicate with

HMJr:

Thank you.

G:

Goodbye.

to come and see you.

you first thing.

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June 10, 1941
10:05 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Graves
Mr. Haas
Mr. White
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Foley

Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Cochran
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Odegarde

Mrs. Klotz

Mr. Bell

Mr. Gaston
H.M.Jr:

Dan, while we are waiting for the people
to drift in, have you had any chance to
talk with Harold Graves about extending
this "F" bond or "G" bond above fifty
thousand?

(Mr. Haas entered the conference.)
Bell:

I talked to him and talked to Haas and talked
to Bob Rouse this morning, and I think it is
the consensus that we should not extend it.

We are afraid that if we do extend it, that

it will draw other bonds, marketable bonds,
out of portfolios to be sold at a premium,
and people will put their money in this bond.
(Mr. Graves and Mr. Thompson entered the
conference.)

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Bell:

That is what we were afraid of at first in

extending that limit to a hundred thousand,
you may recall. We had some discussion of it.
(Mr. Foley entered the conference.)

Bell:

We think maybe we had better leave it alone
and try to work it through some other means

like preferential allotment. Even that is

a little difficult.

(Mr. Schwarz entered the conference.)
H.M.Jr:

What about your tax certificate?

Bell:

I am ready to talk to you about that. I have

those replies from the Federal Reserve Banks.
They are not so good. Some say that we probably

won't get any volume of subscriptions. Maybe

the first year won't go very well. They think

maybe the second year it might go better.

They are not against it, but they are not
enthusiastic about it.

Foley:

Mr. Secretary, instead of a tax certificate,
I wonder if consideration could be given to
a provision in the law to permit twelve

periods of payment of the income tax instead
of quarterly payments as the law now provides?

I think if a fellow could pay his income taxes

out of earnings so he won't have to make

savings in order to effect the payment, it
might suit the convenience of the little fellow

a little better.

I know in the case of some of my boys where

they have been able to pay their taxes out
of their regular salary check without having
to anticipate the payment by saving in anticipation of it, it has been a pretty convenient
thing to do; and now that the income tax

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-3payments are going to be 80 much larger

so that you won't be able to do that if you
have to pay in four installments, it would
be a little more suitable for them if the
payments could be arranged the first of
every month, for instance.

H.M.Jr:

The first of every month?

Foley:

Or the fifteenth of every month, and have

it in twelve installments if that is what

the taxpayer wants to do, instead of quarterly.
(Mr. White entered the conference.)

H.M.Jr:

You mean that they pay monthly.

Foley:

Instead of quarterly.

Bell:

Would you give them a discount?

Foley:

I would have it the same as you have it now

Gaston:

Foley:

for your four installments instead of one
installment.

You would have them begin on the due date of
the taxes and then to make those payments?
Yes.

Graves:

That would be a very difficult administrative --

Foley:

That is the only objection to it, Harold, and

now that you have more taxpayers than you have

particularly small taxpayers,

to me the

ever it seems had before, administrative convenience difficulties of

might be adjusted to suit the
the taxpayer rather than to have a tax certiwhere a fellow accumulates against

ficate the time in the future when he will have to
pay.

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4Haas:

When would the first payment start, Ed,

Graves:

In March.

Haas:

I thought maybe the beginning of the year.

Foley:

No, start on the fifteenth of March, then

for the year --

pay on the fifteenth of April, fifteenth
of May, fifteenth of June and right straight
through instead of the four payments.

H.M.Jr:

We are talking, if you don't mind, about two
separate things. We could do yours, but that

has got nothing to do, I don't think, with

doing that - the money that you are earning
now, to save some of that to pay the income
tax on your present earnings.

Bell:

That is right.

Foley:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, that is the thing.

Bell:

Save out of your present earnings to pay

your tax on these earnings, not wait until
next year and pay it out of next year's
earnings.

H.M.Jr:

We could pay it - still do it monthly, but
the question that I wanted to push is a little
bit different than what you are talking about.

Foley:

I think that is entirely correct. What I

H.M.Jr:

Is something else.

Foley:

Another phase of the same problem; namely,
the convenience of being able to meet income
tax payments.

am talking about is a --

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But my thing, I think it is like the chicken
and the egg, I think mine comes first.

After all, I am getting - how much do I get
this month from the Treasury? Six hundred
twenty-five?

Klotz:

Twice.

H.M.Jr:

Six hundred twenty-five? I get that every
two weeks. Should the Government make it

easy for me to take a certain percentage of
that six hundred twenty-five and lay it aside
now, regardless of how much I would pay
when it comes due, and that is the proposal,

what we are earning now, and that is the thing
that has --

Bell:

The tax is on the six hundred twenty-five
you get this month and not on the six hundred
twenty-five that you drew --

H.M.Jr:

That is the difference. You get the point.

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Let's say we wanted to do it. What, out of
all of this stuff now which has been running
for two or three weeks, seems the best way

to do it if we wanted to do it?

Bell:

I think the best way to do it is a discount

Gaston:

They would be non-transferable and available and

certificate. We have some old forms of
certificate indebtedness that we think we
could rearrange and print up pretty fast and
put it on a discount basis, and we have the
authority in the law to issue discount certificates.
only to the amount of the man's taxes

no more?

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Bell:

We thought we ought to limit it to about
twenty thousand dollars tax a year, or five
thousand dollars a quarter, and make them

not registered but inscribe the name of the
taxpayer on the certificate 80 that when he
turns in his tax return, he can attach the
certificates to the return and then the
collector will turn those over to the Federal
Reserve Banks in payment of the taxes and
they will be redeemed and credited as tax
receipts.
Gaston:

Bell:

Discounted at about two and a half percent or
something like that.

That is a little high. We thought about ninety-nine
point forty beginning in June. That gives
us six tenths of one percent for the nine
months.

White:

Is there any possibility of graduating - of

Bell:

Yes, it will start at - oh, you mean as to

White:

graduating the discount rate?
taxpayers?

Give a small taxpayer, let us say, four or
five percent, up to a few hundred dollars
and then graduate that very sharply so that
a large taxpayer will not be getting much
more than he would be getting on any short
term investment, because they are very
investment-conscious whereas the small tax-

payer, the amount he would save would be
compared to what the inconvenience

of a tax bond - or if you him

a it would not only

trifling large buying return, offered have the
advantage of really helping him out and

making defaults later much smaller, but it

would also have the very important advantage

of taking out of circulation purchasing

power which would otherwise be spent; and

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during the first year, you might mop up as

much as a billion dollars or two billion
dollars that way.

Bell:

Oh, I doubt that.

White:

Which wouldn't be increasing each time, but

H.M.Jr:

it would be --

Well, Harry, if I understand it, let's say
that we could get this thing started the
first of July. I suppose that would be the
earliest, wouldn't it?

Bell:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you would sell during the month of

July certificates to meet the tax on the
fifteenth of March. Would you sell it just
in July?

Bell:

Probably sell it in July and August and then
in September you would sell the certificates

to meet the taxes in June, and then in December
for September and so forth.

H.M.Jr:

All right.
Now, do I understand that we are limited to

any one person, he can only buy five thousand
dollars worth?

Bell:

I would limit it to an annual tax of say
thousand. That isn't set, but I do

we to limit
a tax it.
or is now pay

has twenty think been paying ought Anybody going that to

tax in excess of twenty thousand dollars,

you a don't have to tell him how to invest to his
money or how to save. He has been used

that. But the small fellow, I think we can
take care of him.

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Let me just argue with you a little bit.

Take General Motors that just paid us in
round figures
a hundred million dollars,
wasn't
it?

Bell:

Yes, a hundred and ten or twelve million
dollars.

H.M.Jr:

A hundred million dollars. That money of
General Motors invariably was in the banks.
Yes, sir.

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

Why shouldn't we let General Motors buy a
hundred million dollars worth of these certificates?

Bell:

Well, there are other securities which they
can buy, Treasury bills --

H.M.Jr:

Well, but --

Bell:

Smaller return, but Treasury bills are now

H.M.Jr:

Well, we would be bearing it cheaper than an
eighth, wouldn't we?

Bell:

No.

H.M.Jr:

But I mean on this proposal.

Bell:

No, sir. We pay a little better than a half

H.M.Jr:

You mean under your proposal?

Bell:

Yes.

White:

Dan is right. Thos e large concerns have to

getting around to a little under an eighth,
and that is a --

for the nine months.

figure very closely. They don't let any

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possibilities of investment go and their
anticipation of payment of taxes is a factor
which plays a role in their determination of
what kind of securities to invest, et cetera.
Bell:

And also dividend payments.

Gaston:

I don't think for the small taxpayer you

ought to consider it as a nine months' proposition, because he has the privilege of paying
from March to December, and that makes the
equivalent of a payment about August 1.

Consequently, you can figure on a full year's
discount on the small taxpayer.
White:

I think that is an important point, and I

think that ought to be stopped if you provide
this other measure. If you provide a way in

which a man can and should set aside out of
his current income to pay taxes when they

fall due, then you don't have to give him a

whole year and it would have the advantage

of moving up funds for the Treasury a full

year and taking that out of circulation.
That is an additional point. It is necessary
so long as you don't encourage or make it

easy for a man to set aside out of his current

income, but once you do, I don't see any

justification for allowing either a corporation
or an individual the privilege of paying in
four quarterly payments. That was all right

in normal times. It didn't matter. But I

don't think it should be permitted now, and
I think it would be a wise move both from
the point of view of saving the Government
money and from the point of view of taking
funds out of circulation and also from the
point of view of having greater ease of
administration.

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To do what?

White:

Not to permit them to pay as we are now

permitting to pay their taxes in four
installments over the following year.

In other words, a tax payable for this year,
1941, our income tax, we will be able to
pay in March, 1942, in June, 1942, and I
think in September, 1942. I have forgotten

whether it is three or four payments in the
following year. And it seems to me that

that is something that might well be stopped

now.

H.M.Jr:

How?

White:

Make everybody pay their full tax when it
is due, on March - you can even move that

date up a month, if you like, so that on

March 15 -H.M.Jr:

Well, that is just the opposite of what

White:

Well, that is, except that his point is met

Ed Foley is saying.

if you permit and encourage them and make

it easy for them to take their taxes - to allow
for their taxes out of current payments now,

set them aside now.
Foley:

The reason I said what I said, Mr. Secretary,
is, I was thinking of my own situation.
Here I am paying my taxes in installments
that are now due and here we are talking
about an arrangement whereby I can save to
pay next year's taxes when I haven't paid

my own taxes for this year; and I think that
if it could be made easier out of current

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gone one step toward making it a little

easier for the little fellow to meet his

tax payments.
H.M.Jr:

Well, that is the whole plan. The whole plan
is to start now to encourage the man to take
out of his current earnings and set it aside now,
enough money to pay his taxes in '42.

I mean, that is my only interest so that
he won't find in 42 he has spent it and
he hasn't got the money.

Gaston:

What Ed says is a good argument for Harry's
scheme, which I like very much, of decreasing

the interest rate as the payment - the dis-

count rate as the payment increases.

There are several arguments for giving
advantage to the small taxpayer that you

don't give to the large taxpayer.

One is the expense of collection on the
small taxpayer and the desirability of
taking his savings out of consumption,
and the fact that he normally pays in the -

at the last date in the four year install-

ments.
White:

This idea of moving the tax up a year has
a dual advantage, Mr. Secretary. It has
to be examined.

H.M.Jr:

If you don't mind, I find myself doing now
just what I said I wouldn't do.
I am not going to have these arguments in

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my office. I haven't got the time, Dan.
They should take place in your office.
,

Bell:

Well, we have already had a number of
conferences on it.

Foley:

I think that is right, but this is a pretty
big problem, Mr. Secretary.

We have all got different ideas.
H.M.Jr:

And that is just what I am not going to
do any more.

White:

Well, except that we might not have heard

of it unless it came up here. At least I

wouldn't have heard of it.
Foley:

This is the first time I have had a chance

H.M.Jr:

All right, that is all right --

Bell:

What am I supposed to do, circularize the

to say my say.

Treasury?
Foley:

No, but I think when these things come up in
here, Dan, "Very well," the Secretary may say,

"take this up in your room."

H.M.Jr:

I don't want to shut anybody off, but I just
haven't any more got the time to sit for two
hours and be patient, and therefore it is
terribly important - I have been waiting now,
Harold, what is it, a month?

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About, a little over a month.

H.M.Jr:

It is over a month, and I would like this

discussion to take place, everybody to have
a chance to air their feelings, and then come

in with a majority or minority report, and

then I am going to listen to it, but I can't

do this any more, so I am going to stop now,
but please, Dan, let them go into your room
Bell:
H.M.Jr:

for a half a day-In the hall?

No, this is important, and Harold brought
this up at least a month ago and have the

first, second, and third airing in your room,

and Sullivan should be there and Blough should
be there, and then come to my room, you see.

Will you do that? It is at least four or

five weeks since Harold first brought it up.

Gaston:

We did discuss this thing at one of those
Friday economic conferences several months
ago.

H.M.Jr:

But you can see - I mean, when White and Foley
are apart, you can see there is something
wrong. (Laughter)

Foley:

We haven't had a chance to get together.
(Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

That is the point.

White:

You had better begin changing your mind now,

Ed. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

So get together, boys, and I am waiting. And
you people run up a flag on me. I can't do

it any more, but I will bring up these things
that I am waiting for here, and then if I

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find you are not prepared, I will throw it
into somebody's lap and then come on back.

Is that right, Herbert?
Gaston:

Yes, very good.

Bell:

Well, this other thing has been interfering
with it. We have been ready for a couple of

weeks to discuss the thing.
H.M.Jr:

Well, what I am going to do at eleven o'clock

with Jones, is this. I will simply say,

"Now, look, Jesse, you have got your bill

through. It is fine, and I am just going to

tell you from now on that I consider it is
entirely your responsibility to decide what

loans you want to make or those you don't

want to make and how much you want to make,

and I am going to ask you - I know it will

be difficult for you to do this - to make up

your own mind without referring it to the
Treasury." And then this afternoon when Sir
Edward Peacock comes in, I am going to say

exactly the same thing to him.

(The Secretary held a telephone conversation
wi th Admiral King.)
Kuhn:

I think they will have it ready in fifteen

minutes. Where does it have to go?
H.M.Jr:

Anacostia. Get it and give it to Stephens
and I will tell him to take a car and go over
there. You have just got to change the one

word.

Where were we?

Oh, that is what I am proposing to say to Mr.
Jones.

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It would be nice if he could inform you how
much the amount of the loan is so we could
keep track of what they are--

H.M.Jr:

Oh, well - I will say, "As each transaction

is completed, if you would let us know how
much these loans are, we would like it."
Cochran:

Then
would they approach us at all on these,
the British?

H.M.Jr:

No. We will wash our hands of it.

Foley:

That is good.

H.M.Jr:

Wash our hands of it. That was the - you
know, they originally wanted me to let them
have a man to pass on each one. Now, I am
passing on each one myself.

Cochran:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

I don't want to do it any more.
Any doubts, Dan?

Bell:

I guess not. The only thing that is worrying
me is that you have got a responsibility to
Congress in those figures that you presented

and if there is a private loan of the character
that was just proposed or there is a sixteen
million dollar loan against forty-seven million
dollars in assets and of course it is in favor
of the British because they have that many

dollars to pay back in the future, whereas

if they get their loan of Jones of thirty

million dollars, they get more dollars to

liquidate the American commitments and of
course they have to pay back more. Somebody

ought to watch that.

H.M.Jr:

The point is this. I would much rather - if

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after all, gentlemen, their assets were so
much," I couldn't pass on each loan. The

responsibility is the British Treasury's to
get as much as they can out of it. Now,

they have gone through various avenues of

private bankers to Mr. Jones, and I take it
that they are not throwing away any money,

but if I pass on each one and then we don't

get the last dollar out of it, then it is

my responsibility.
White:

I think with one modification, which would

probably be implicit in this, and that is

that if Mr. Jones is having the same kind of
difficulty that he apparently was having with
respect to this loan, in other words, where
they were going to the private investors without giving serious consideration to the larger
investment, that you ought to get in the

picture at that time, if he reports to you
that they are not coming to him for lease

loans and they are making these loans-H.M.Jr:

That is something else. But whether they

lend them twenty or twenty-one or nineteen

million dollars, I don't want to pass on it.
White:

So long as Jones is satisfied that he has had

an opportunity to bid on it.
H.M.Jr:

I am going to tell him this afternoon that the

only advice I am going to give them on every

transaction, it is the height of folly if

they don't go and find out how much can Jones
let them have.
Cochran:

Should we give them any advice about cutting

off entirely from complete sales? I am thinking of the Tinkham letter.
H.M.Jr:

No, I am going to wash my hands of this thing

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entirely. I am not going to be in the position

of telling them every time what they should
do. Now, I am in a very untenable position,

and I am going to get out of it. All I want
to know is after the thing is through. I
mean, I have given this thing - if you don't

mind, I have had lots of time, and I have made
up my own mind, and I am not really asking for

advice in this case. I very seldom say that.

Bell:

Well, I think it is right to get out of that,

and I would like to see you get away from this-H.M.Jr:

I don't want to go through the motions of
saying what do you think, when I have already

made up my mind. I have made up my mind, and

I want to get out of this thing. You can't

work with Jones. Jones is a one-man show.

Why not recognize it? And I am not going to
be bothered week in and week out on every

deal, is Jones undercutting me? is he trying

to do me dirt? is he trying to do this? I

mean, life is too short. Why not recognize

it? I mean, Jones won't work with anybody.
He is a one-man show, and you might just as

well recognize it. He has got the authority.
Why have everyone worrying - friends of mine
in this room - am I getting the worst of this
or that? And let the British take care of
their own dollars, because that is their
responsibility. They can take good care of
them.

Now, if Jones says the British aren't coming,
he can come to me and say, "Well, I never
heard of this deal," but that is something
else again.
Has anybody got anything else that needs to
be decided this morning?

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This is a statement we worked up on the relief
of the three or four hundred million dollars.

H.M.Jr:

Supposing we do this right after Jones leaves?

Bell:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

See? After Jones leaves.

Gaston:

There is one thing I would like to bring up
if you have a minute or two. I would like to
try something new in regard to the German

propaganda films. We have one now. It is
called "The Bismarck." I think we ought to
release it. We could probably find some

grounds for holding it up. It is a Ufa film,

but what I would like to do, and this is

John Wiley's suggestion, I would like to

invite in a number of first string columnists,

show them this picture in confidence, and
then suggest to them that they see the film
when it is released, go to these German

theaters and see it, and they will be pre-

pared to handle it, to discuss it, and it is
a film - this particular one is a film that
is very susceptible to that sort of treat-

ment, because you can handle it in a good
way with counteracting.
H.M.Jr:

How long a film is it?

Gaston:

It is about a two-hour film. I think you
might like to see it.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to see it before I pass on it.

Gaston:

But this is a type that I - a device that I

think we might use on a number of those propaganda films as they come up.

H.M.Jr:

Herbert, I don't care who the men are that you

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invite here, see. You can't trust them any

more than Winant, who told me yesterday that
he was promised by Henry Wallace that the men

that he picked wouldn't talk, and he went up

there and every word that he said was repeated

to another Senator and the third Senator told
what he said. Now, you can not invite a group
of columnists into this office, Treasury,
and show them a film that one, two, or three
won't say they saw it in the Treasury.
Gaston:

That raises a question whether any damage
would be done by that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't want it.

Gaston:

The Army took one of our films and showed it
to a whole group of newspaper correspondents.

Schwarz:

H.M.Jr:
Gaston:

H.M.Jr:

Including

I don't want to do it, if you don't mind.

I turn the idea down.
Right.

That isn't our job, and I don't - I don't

want it.

Gaston:

What is distinctly our job is to decide whether
we have grounds for the exclusion of the film.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to see it, and Mrs. Klotz, we
will fix up sometime in the next day or two.
Have you got the picture in town?

Gaston:

Oh, yes.

H.M.Jr:

But I don't want to get into that picture. I
just don't want it. I mean, that isn't - if

and when they have a fellow in charge of

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propaganda, let him do that, but I don't want

to get in on it. You can't do that thing

half way.
Gaston:

It is distinctly in the propaganda field.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we are doing an entirely different
thing. You have asked me, and if you don't
mind, I say no.

Gaston:

No, right.

H.M.Jr:

But I would like to see the picture.

Gaston:

It is available any time you would like to see

White:

Can some of us act as ushers?

H.M.Jr:

On the picture? Oh, yes, anybody in the room

Bell:

Take tickets.

H.M.Jr:

We will fix it up.

Cochran:

Archie left with me that colored picture of
the Burma Road this morning, it is a film of
thirty minutes, sixteen millimeter, if you
want to see it.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

it.

is invited. We will do it some--

I want to see you a minute, Odegarde, please.

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June 10, 1941
10:22 a.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Admiral
King:

Good morning, Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

How are you?

K:

I'm very well, thank you, very
busy, etc. as usual.
Admiral, I wondered if this
afternoon you have a little

HMJr:

time. I attempted to write

out an address for Amheret.

some young men who have doubts

about this whole thing.
K:

HMJr:

I see.

And I bring in parts of some
conversations I had with you
on shipboard.

K:

Yes.

HMJr:

I wondered if you were free

at this afternoon to give me

a little time, I'd like to get

your reaction personally as to
how you think this might effect
K:

Well, I wish that I could, Mr.
Secretary, but I'm right on the

point of starting back now. They
called me in here in a hurry and
I'm to be back here Thursday.

HMJr:

K:

Well, could I do this? Could I
get into your hands, possibly
you could read it, then give me
a call?

I'd like to do that very much,

Mr. Secretary. Could you have
that sent over at once please to
Anacostia?

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-2HMJr:
K:

HMJr:

When are you leaving?

Well, I hope to be in the
air at eleven o' clock.
You hope to be in the air

at eleven?
K:

Yes.

HMJr:

I don't know whether we
could eleven, get but it we'll there make by

effort. Hello?
K:

the

I may be later than that
80 I suggest that you do that,
Mr. Secretary.

HMJr:

All right and then possibly

you could read it on the way
up.

K:

Yes. That would fit in very
nicely.

HMJr:

And then if you would give me

K:

All right, sir, I'11 be glad

HMJr:

That will be very nice.

a ring on the phone I'd
appreciate it.

to do it.

HMJr:

All right.
But I really would like to get

K:

Well, I'11 be very glad to give

K:

your reaction.
you that.

HMJr:

Fine.

K:

That will be the way to do it.

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-HMJr:

K:

We'll try to be almost as good
as the Navy and get it to you.

I'm sure it will be there. I

may be later than that.
HMJr:

I'll see if I got a man the
name
Junior
of Garcia,
around by

here to carry the message.
K:

HMJr:

I see. All right, Mr. Secretary.
All right.

K:

Glad to hear from you.

HMJr:

Thank you.

K:

Goodbye.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE June 10. 1941

Secretary Morgenthau
TO

FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
At 11 o'clock this morning the Secretary of the Treasury received the Secretary
of Commerce. Messrs. Bell, Foley, White and Cochran were present.
Mr. Morgenthau told Mr. Jones that he is receiving Sir Edward Peacock this
afternoon. He added that he would like to speak to Sir Edward Peacock along the
following lines. Now that Mr. Jones has received the required legislation from
Congress, the British representatives should approach Mr. Jones directly in any
instance where they desire to obtain a loan against British direct investments in
the United States. The responsibility for passing on such transactions would be
that of Mr. Jones. Mr. Jones agreed to accept this responsibility, but with the
condition that he would be free to call upon the Secretary of the Treasury and mem-

bers of his staff for support and assistance. (Mr. Jones thought that the British
night get out of hand unless they realized that the Treasury was still interested.)

Kr. Morgenthau and Mr. Jones agreed that their basic desire was to see that the
British do not dissipate their resources in this country, but obtain the maximum
amount of dollars possible in order to meet their commitments in this country.

The foregoing outline of the approach to Sir Edward Peacock was agreed upon by

the two Secretaries. Mr. Morgenthau stressed the point that he could not look into
every transaction which the British proposed to enter. Unless some system such as
the above is adopted, there would be chance for confusing triangular conversations
such as took place this past week in the case of the Coates thread deal.
Kr. Morgenthau considers it undesirable for the British to approach consummation of
a deal with private bankers and then come to the Treasury in a rush at the last
minute to obtain approval of the Secretary to the transaction under reference. He
believes that British interests would best be served by the plan which he has suggested. The point was made that the Secretary of the Treasury, with the assistance
of the British, made known to Congress the various holdings of the British in the
United States at the time the Lend-Lease Bill was under consideration. It is now
the duty of the British themselves to handle these assets in the manner most likely
to procure a maximum of dollar exchange to pay for their commitments in this country.
Mr. Jones agreed to inform the Treasury of the results of any transactions upon
which he passes.

pm.P.

Copy-to mr. Jones 6/11/+1
usper attached letter copy

of transmitted

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JUN 11 1941

Dear Jesses

In accordance with the understanding

reached at - mooting posterior. I have pleasure

is attaching a - of our conversation.
wall you kindly inform no of - point which you
may think 10 not antiofactorily covered?
Sincerely years,

Secretary of the treasury.

Copy
of of June so, 1942
the Receivable
Jesse Sease.

Secretary of -

1960:1ap-6/10/41

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THE UNDER SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

June 10, 1941
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:

The Secretary conferred today with Mr. Jesse Jones regarding his
financing requirements for the next three months and the refunding of
$211,000,000 of RFC securities maturing on July 11.

The Secretary told Mr. Jones that it was his thought that we
would offer a RFC note for about the same terms as in the past for
$300,000,000 for cash, and offer at the same time to exchange the
maturing security of July 20 for the same note issue. There was some

discussion as to whether the issue should not be divided 80 that
Mr. Jones could get an average of 1 per cent. The Secretary told him
that he would be glad to look into this, but his present thought was
that we might put the whole issue in January 1944. Mr. Jones said

this would be satisfactory to him.
Mr. Jones then left with the Secretary a letter dated June 10
regarding the purchasing by the RFC of approximately $50,000,000 of
PWA securities as contemplated by the President's Budget Message

covering the fiscal year 1941. Mr. Jones told the Secretary that the
RFC stood ready to include this purchase whenever the PWA gave them the

clear sign. This would complete the program as contemplated by the
President's Message.

I told the Secretary that I was familiar with the transaction and
that I would handle it with PWA.

DWB

FEDERAL LOAN AGENCY
WASHINGTON

JESSE

June 10, 1941

Dear Henry:

The $350,000,000 which the President directed the
RFC to make available for the Treasury during the current
fiscal year has been provided, except for part of the funds
to be furnished PWA through the purchase of securities to
enable PWA to pay the Treasury $50,000,000. Of the total
amount, approximately $300,000,000 was made available through

retirement of the Corporation's stock and purchase of stock

of the Federal Home Loan Banks.

The RFC has paid PWA $6,516,666.67 for securities

on commitments made since July 1, 1940; and in a letter to
Mr. Carmody, dated April 30, 1941, RFC offered to purchase
for $43,500,000 the remaining securities held by PHA, except
approximately $10,000,000 of issues not regarded as transferable. Mr. Carmody acknowledged the letter under date of
May 5, 1941, stating that there were some aspects of the PWA

bond situation to which he desired to give additional study.
This is to advise you that the RFC is ready to
conclude the purchase of the PWA securities, thereby completing the program.
Sincerely yours,

Administrator

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

Washington, D. C.

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COPY

FEDERAL LOAN AGENCY
WASHINGTON

JESSE H JONES
FEDERAL LOAN ADMINISTRATOR

June 10, 1941

Dear Harold:

Referring to your letter of May 12th, our

lawyers are not in agreement that the RFC has the
authority to make a loan to a dummy corporation for
the purchase of the electric system of Puget Sound

Power & Light Company.

It would seem to me much better for the
Bonneville Dam to be incorporated, with authority to
borrow and pledge its revenues. There would then be
no question of RFC's authority to make the loan,
However, the President, the Secretary of the
Treasury, and you should give serious consideration to
the matter of diverting $100,000,000, or more, from

defense purposes to the acquisition of public utilities
which are already in existence and serving their customers at what I am informed are fair rates.
Inasmuch as the market already exists for all
of the power that can be created during the next few
years, it may be advisable to defer the purchase of these

utilities.

I shall be glad to discuss it further with you

at your pleasure.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Jesse H. Jones
Administrator

Honorable Harold L. Ickes

Secretary of the Interior

Washington, D. C.

Hunded to me
by Jones June 12, 1941.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 10, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
At 11:30 this forenoon the Secretary received the attached statement from

Under Secretary Bell entitled, "Dollar Relief for British Treasury". Mesers. Folay,

White and Cochran were also present at the conference.

In explaining this table, Mr. Bell stated that the $228,000,000 under heading I
constituted definite relief which should be found acceptable to the British. The
total of $210,000,000 under heading II might be disputed by the British, since they
could figure that some of the relief involved was already expected by them through
the Lend-Lease system. Our rebuttal would be that as late as March 15 they included
these items in their estimates of suns which they would be obliged to pay. The
Secretary agreed that it is preferable to grant relief of the type represented by
the $210,000,000 than to achieve this end through deferring contracts. He agreed,
therefore. that Mr. Bell should consult Mr. Hopkins' office on the attached table.
If it is found acceptable to that office, the Treasury would then endeavor to have
the British accept this as fulfillment of the Secretary's undertaking to arrange
for them relief to the extent of from $300,000,000 to $400,000,000.

M.M.R.

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0

0

P

Y

DOLLAR RELIEF FOR BRITISH TREASURY

I.

Already provided and which can be immediately provided:
1. Plant and Equipment (RFC)

(a) Already purchased
(b) Can be purchased

$ 48 M
52

$ 100 M

2. Supply contracts:
(a) Already taken over by the
War Department

(b) Entered into by the British after

50

March 11, 1941, which can be taken
over by the War Department

78

128

$ 228 M

II. In addition to the above, relief can be given by taking
over the following payments under Lend-Lease which

the British had originally contemplated meeting out

of their dollar resources:

(1) 011 to be purchased in the United States
during the next six months
(2) 011 to be purchased from American sources
outside the United States

(3) Merchandise inside the United States
(4)

Shipping services
Total

$ 33 M

30

132
15

210

$438 M

Additional relief could be given on same basis as (3) and (4) above.

June 10, 1941

COPY: 6/10/41

328
DOLLAR RELIEF FOR BRITISH TREASURY

I. Already provided and which can be immediately provided:
1. Plant and Equipment (RFC)
(a) Already purchased
(b) Can be purchased

$ 48 M
52

$ 100 M

2. Supply contracts:
(a) Already taken over by the
War Department

(b) Entered into by the British after

50

March 11, 1941, which can be taken
over by the War Department

78

128

$ 228 M

II. In addition to the above, relief can be given by taking
over the following payments under Lend-Lease which

the British had originally contemplated meeting out
of their dollar resources:
(1) 011 to be purchased in the United States
during the next six months

$ 33 M

(2) 011 to be purchased from American sources
outside the United States

30

(3) Merchandise inside the
United States

(4) Shipping services

132
15

210
.

Total

$ 438 M

Additional relief could be given on same basis as (3) and (4) above.

June 10, 1941

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June 10, 1941

Dear Felix:

I am sending you herewith a
copy of the memorandum "College Men

and the War", , which I spoke to you

about at lunch today.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) Henry

Honorable Felix Frankfurter,
United States Supreme Court.

By Messenger

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June 10, 1941
3:30 p.m.
RE AID TO BRITAIN

Present:

Mr. Phillips

Mr. Peacock
Mr. Cochran

Mr. Bell

Mr. Foley
Mrs. Klotz
Mr. White
H.M.Jr:

You asked to see me so maybe you have some-

thing on your mind. Would you care to talk

first?
Peacock:

Well, I have, sir, if you would like me to
begin.

H.M.Jr:

Please.

Peacock:

I can put it in a very few words. Sir

Frederick has been going into what he
requires from Gifford and me in order to
cover his needs, and we have gone into the

figures pretty carefully and It is quite

clear that under present conditions we
can't provide him with the sum he wants.
We certainly can't provide him in time, and
unless conditions change we probably couldn't

provide him at all.
I have in the last three months worked very
hard at this problem of direct investments
and I have acquired a very large amount of

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information on the subject, but I haven't
accomplished very much in the way of producing cash. Conditions are not moving
in our favor, and so we have been looking

at the thing as realistically as we could
to see whether there was any alternative.

Now, if I may revert to past history for

the moment, I feel that we have accomplished

something worthwhile. With your help, this
Viscose thing, which took an unpleasant turn

the other day - I am glad that is over - has

really, I feel, done a lot of good.
H.M.Jr:

No question about it.

Peacock:

I feel that in that sense I have been an
instrument at doing something that was
useful.

H.M.Jr:

Definitely.

Peacock:

But I can't get on with very much further good,
enough to meet Sir Frederick's requirements.

Under those circumstances, we have been wonder-

ing whether the time hasn't come when - to look

into the possibility of in some other way

meeting the requirements, because after all,
what is wanted, and I know what you want is,

that we shall see to it that Sir Frederick

is in a position to pay all his bills; and

we feel that we ought to explore some other
way of providing him wi th the funds and
providing him in a sure way, so that there
is no doubt and question as there is at the
present time as to whether the amount is

going to be available at the time, when it
is required.

So I asked to come to see you. I feel that
I may come and consult you and ask for your

help and advice and I am here today for that

purpose. That is the story.

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-3H.M.Jr:

Well, have you any suggestion of your own?

Peacock:

Well, yes. A change has taken place, or is

taking place, rather, in the matter of the

RFC bill. They are having it amended, and
it appears to us as if it had been amended
with a view to opening the way for people
like us to borrow some money, and so I had

in my mind the possibility of exploring that
as a possible way out.

H.M.Jr:

Well, what I wanted to say is right along
the same line. Mr. Jesse Jones was here

this morning. I said that, talking for

the treasury, now that his bill had passed

and he had the authority from Congress to

lend to England on their securities, that
I would like to take this position; namely,

that from now on if the English government
had any properties or securities which they
owned in this country and they wanted to
either sell them or borrow against them I was going to suggest this this afternoon
to you gentlemen - that before you sold or
borrowed on them, that you would consult
with Mr. Jones to see at what price he could
either buy or borrow and that the responsi-

bility being yours, you naturally would sell

or borrow from wherever you could get the

most money, that in the future I didn't want

to be consulted on each transaction because
you can't have too many people in this picture

and the responsibility for lending is Mr.
Jones' and not mine. The responsibility
for paying the bills which you have obligated yourself to in this country is yours.

Mr. Jones was entirely agreeable to this
procedure. He said he would like to feel
that he could call on any of us here for
advice and help, that in case he had any
difficulties with you, meaning the English,

he would like to call us in for help, but

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he would be very glad to proceed on that

basis. I made it very clear to him, and
I would like to make it very clear to you

that the difference is this, that in the

future, unless Mr. Jones specifically asks
us or you, I don't want to be in the position
that we are going to pass on every transaction. I just can't do it. I mean, I
haven't got the time.
My past experience with the English Treasury

has been so highly satisfactory that I feel
confident that certainly you are not going
to waste your assets and that you are going

to try to get every dollar possible. If
you can't get it from one source, you will
try to get it from another.

But I don't want to go through another Viscose
deal and so if that procedure is agreeable

to you, it is agreeable to Mr. Jones. That
doesn't mean that you can't drop in, but I

don't want to on every transaction - "Well,
we can get twenty million, do you think that
is enough or can you get us twenty-two or
should we do business with X, Y, 2, or should

we see -" I am just taking it for granted

that in each case you will give Mr. Jones
a chance to say, "Well, I can buy or borrow
so much," and then I should think that that
would be a distinct advantage to you, because
you know that it gives you a bargaining power.
You are not at the mercy of one group or several
groups, and as I say, it doesn't mean that
you can't drop in and discuss the broad

principles, but we don't want to be - and I
explained that originally - it is your money,
it is your nation's money, your obligations,
and I think it is up to you people to make

the best bargain you can and nothing has
happened in the past that makes me think you

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-5are going to waste your assets.

Is that stated, Dan, about the way I stated
it to Mr. Jones?
Bell:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Is that about right?

Bell:

That is about right.

H.M.Jr:

Just about the same way? Have I overlooked

anything?
Bell:

No, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Well now, is that agreeable to you gentlemen?

Phillips:

Yes. It is understood that if we do run

Isn't that an easier way to do?

into trouble, you would be good enough to

listen to us?
H.M.Jr:

Always.

Peacock:

That --

H.M.Jr:

We are always here. We are a friend in
court, but I don't want to go through the
agony of another deal any more than you do.

Peacock:

Quite so. I perfectly understand that,
sir, and we will certainly explore this

other avenue, but I do very much value your
permission to come here --

H.M.Jr:
Peacock:

Any time. As we say in this country -I will certainly not trouble you over minor
things.

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-6H.M.Jr:

Oh no, it isn't that. I think if I can
be - well, the responsibility for each

deal, if that is lifted off my shoulders

I may be of more service in other ways to

you.
Peacock:

There may come times when we will just have

to come and have a talk with you.

H.M.Jr:

Any time that you call up and give me twenty-

four hours' notice, I will see you; and if
is it is an emergency, I will see you in

twenty-four minutes, and Phillips knows that
after a number of years, that he can call up
and say, "Can I drop over, there is something
you have got to see," that I have always

found time. Is that right?

Phillips:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And there is no change on any of this, but

it is just this one thing which I have

always right from the beginning - I didn't
want to be in the position that I have got
to place a value on every one of these
businesses and I haven't changed.

Well, that is that. Now, on Phillips' own
problem, we are making headway.

Phillips:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

On what we call here the three to four

hundred million. We hope to have something
this week, don't we?

Bell:

We hope to have it tomorrow. I don't know
whether we can get it through in view of
the pending report there. Hopkins and his
crowd are spending all their time on that

report, but that ought to get out tonight

or tomorrow.

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7H.M.Jr:

But I am trying terribly hard to get you
something this week and then after we have
that, if that can be done to your satis-

faction, then we can take another look at
your balance sheet, so to speak, and then

what we call the six hundred fifty million
dollar plan can come after that.
Phillips:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

But we want to get this - what we call here
the three to four hundred million dollar one
straightened up first. We think we are
pretty well on the way, aren't we?

Bell:

Yes, sir. I think so.

H.M.Jr:

Now, what other unfinished business is there?

Peacock:

May I take the opportunity of a personal
matter?

H.M.Jr:

Surely.

Peacock:

I want to get this business on to the point

where I know that provision has been made
that - I have had three SOS messages from
the Bank of England in the last two weeks.

They are in a rather difficult position

over there in one way or another. They
are denuded of most of their directors, so
I have promised the moment I can feel honestly

that this thing is on its way, I would try
to return home.

H.M.Jr:

Only for a short time, I hope.

Peacock:

He said that that would be it, but I would
like to add that for some considerable time,
Carlyle Gifford, whom you know, has been
cooperating with me and he has been in-

valuable. He knows the whole thing thoroughly

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and he would, of course, carry on and in

can on

can, he knows the

here certain than I and respects all because he carry procedure better

that kind of thing better than
I do,
in
it.so that there wouldn't be any break

H.M.Jr:

Well, I think with this new arrangement
which we have here which we have been talking

about, I should think that after you have
seen Mr. Jones you will know whether you

will or won't be on a satisfactory basis.
I am sure you will be.

His attitude is, he would like very much
to help you.

Peacock:

Well, we will explore it and give him every
opportunity.

H.M.Jr:

But any time that I can help - your cause

is still before me every minute. I don't
lose sight of it day or night.

Phillips:
H.M.Jr:

Well, sir, I think that is all.
All right.
(Mr. Phillips and Mr. Peacock left the

conference.)

Bell:

There is probably only one thing in there
that you mentioned that you didn't cover
this morning with Jones, and that was the

securities. You brought securities in with

the direct investments. Did you understand
that when he made his statement, that Jones

was in a position to buy or lend on that?
Cochran:

He put that in this afternoon which he didn't

Bell:

But I don't think that is important.

have this morning.

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-9H.M.Jr:

What is that, Dan?

Bell:

You see, they are selling their investments,
their
time. security investments at the present

H.M.Jr:

This morning we talked about --

Bell:

Only about the direct investments.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they don't bother me with their
securities.

Bell:

I just wondered if they got the impression
now that you are willing for them now to
go to Jones and get a loan, but I take it
you are willing for them to work that out.

H.M.Jr:

Sure.

Bell:

O.K.

H.M.Jr:

Just as long - I have said it right from the
beginning, I don't want to be in the position
that I am appraising the value of every one
of these securities.

White:

Did you raise the question of --

Foley:

Not yet. I will as soon as I get a chance.

H.M.Jr:

Dan, this tonight isn't one of those must

things. We are just having a little re-

hearsal for lunch tomorrow.
Bell:

I told Mrs. Klotz that I would come. I had
this engagement which would make me a little

late, I am afraid.
H.M.Jr:

Oh no. You will get it tomorrow, but I am
trying to talk myself out tonight.

Bell:

You will get tired.

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- 10 Cochran:

You gave us a cablegram from Fox on China.

H.M.Jr:

Well look, Merle, unless these things are
important - I read that Fox one - unless

it is something that is really important --

Co chran:

Well, we don't need to bother you with it.

H.M.Jr:

No. I can't.

Cochran:

All right, we will --

H.M.Jr:

I mean it is - the old brain just won't
take it.

Cochran:

All right, sir.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, it has got to be something that is
out of the ordinary. I can't take any more.

Cochran:

All right. No, we don't need to bother
you with it.
(Secretary held telephone conversation with
Mr. Harry Hopkins as follows:)

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June 10, 1941
3:50 p.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Hopkins.

HMJr:

Hello.

Harry
Hopkins:

Henry?

HMJr:

That's my name.

H:

I want to get your advice

about something.
HMJr:
H:

It's cheap.
The Danish ships - we are

going to buy them out of
lend-lease - we going buy the ships outright.

Pay about $17,000,000 for
34 ships.
HMJr:

Yeah.

H:

Now, the Danish Minister..

HMJr:

How many million, pardon me?

H:

17.

HMJr:

Right.

H:

The Danish Minister then put
up to the Maritime Commission
that he thought he ought to

get 2% interest. Now, not
interest you see, we just put
that on the price. Now, I don't

know whether we want to give that
any breaks or not
HMJr:

No.

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2H:

I know the money 16 frozen

promptly
andyou'd
then dole

it out to him as he needs it.

HMJr:

H:

HMJr:

No,
it would be a bad precedent,
Harry.

It'd be a bad precedent.

Well, we got, I don't know,

4 or 5 billion, if we begin to
pay
interest on the stuff, it
would sink me.
H:

Well, I think he was thinking
of a way of getting some money.
Are they in trouble?

HMJr:

No, no. We.

H:

Have they got dollar exchange

here?
HMJr:

Now, what we do every month we've given him the amount of
money that he says he needs
to run the various Embassies
and Legations in North and South

America.
H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

And we've given him every dollar
he has asked for.

H:

So, he's in no trouble for money?

HMJr:

None what so ever.

H:

Yeah, all right, I get you.

HMJr:

Okay?

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Our boys gave Oscar a memo for you

on what I call the 3 to 4 hundred
million.

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-3H:

HMJr:

H:

HMJr:

Yeah, Oscar was telling me
something about it.
And when you get a breathing
spell will you take a look at
it?

Yeah, I'm going to try to do it
this afternoon.

That would be wonderful, Harry.
Now, wait a minute. Most important

of all, how are you feeling?

H:

Better, Henry. Little tired, but
I'd say definitely better.

HMJr:

Taking your medicine?

H:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Be a good boy.

H:

I am.

HMJr:

All right.

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

Do you agree with me on that? Two and a

Bell:

I take it what they wanted was two and a
half percent on the investment from some
day back when the ships were locked up. It

half percent interest.

is not on the seventeen million --

Foley:

No, because they can invest that. They can

H.M.Jr:

Nuts.

White:

This is for the record. It may be important
some day or it may not be, but if it is, do

take their seventeen million and invest it.

I read this thing correctly -H.M.Jr:

How do I know how you read it?

White:

I mean, do I interpret it correctly?

H.M.Jr:

That is better. You have done so much
Chinese I don't know if you can read English
any more.

White:

"Mr. Morgenthau and Mr. Jones agreed that their

basic desire was to see that the British do
not dissipate their resources in this country,
but obtain the maximum amount possible when

realization thereon is undertaken."

We wonder whether this might not be taken to
mean that you are worrying that they are not
getting their money's worth from what they

sell here. It appears that you are worrying
about them and not about raising the dollars

necessary to pay their debt. There is kind

of a different slant in this than I think
you intended, if I think you interpreted
it properly.

Do I make myself clear?

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- 12 H.M.Jr:

Argue with the counsel. (Laughter) Is
there anything to what he says or not?

White:

Read it over again with that in mind. It
seems as though you are working for the

British instead of the Americans.
Foley:

As I gather, what we were doing here was
reporting a conference this morning and I
think that this sets forth what went on
here in the room.

H.M.Jr:

Are you satisfied?

Foley:

Yes, I am satisfied. I think maybe --

Bell:

You are thinking about the word "dissipate"

and the interpretation on the other side.

I think it means -White:

It sounds as though you are worrying how
they spend their money when what you are

worrying about is whether they will have

money enough to take care of the Americans.

Bell:

Of course, the interpretation of it is that

he is worrying they won't get enough dollars
to pay off the American contractors. You

might change the word.
Foley:

Well, we can say, "The basic desire was to
see that the British realize the maximum

amount of dollars --"

White:

"To meet their obligations __"

Foley:

..... in this country."

White:

That is different.

H.M.Jr:

How would you change it?

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- 13 Foley:

He would change "the British do not dissi-

pate their resources in this country" to

"that the British realize the maximum number

of dollars."
White:

"In order to meet their obligations."

Cochran:

I think they used that phrase, "dissipate
or waste." When you were talking with
Jones that phrase was used.

Foley:

I think it was, but Harry is thinking of

H.M.Jr:

So that they will receive the maximum amount

the record rather than reporting it accurately.

of dollars, how is that? Will you do it
that way?

Cochran:

I am quite happy about that.

Foley:

He has almost got that. He has got, "that
the British do not dissipate their resources
in this country but obtain the maximum amount

possible when realization thereon is undertaken."

White:

You can't talk me out of that other interpretation, Ed.

H.M.Jr:

Fix it up to say, "in order that they will
receive, and so forth.

White:

That is the point. Merely to make it appear

that you are working for the American Treasury

instead of the British Treasury.

H.M.Jr:

Merle, fix it up and then give me a letter

Cochran:

All right, fine.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Good-bye.

tomorrow morning, "My dear Jesse."

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- 14 Foley:

May I bring up one thing?

H.M.Jr:

I doubt it.

White:

Yes, I think so.

H.M.Jr:

Have you two talked it over?

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And you are in agreement?

Foley:

We had lunch. (Laughter)

Bell:

We might as well leave.

Cochran:

All right, Dan.

Foley:

I don't know whether you - whether I made

myself clear or not when I told you about

the meeting on Friday before Glass' committee.

They are meeting not only on our bill, but

they are also going to bring up Taft's bill

to give effect to the Federal Reserve suggestions. .
H.M.Jr:

I know.

Foley:

I thought if you were going to be away tomorrow
and Thursday --

H.M.Jr:

Who is going to be away tomorrow and Thursday?

Foley:

I thought you were.

H.M.Jr:

I am right here.

White:

I thought you were making your talk at
Amherst Thursday.

H.M.Jr:

Saturday.

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I thought it was Thursday.

H.M.Jr:

Saturday. We will have a chance to do this
when I am fresh tomorrow morning.

Foley:

O.K., that takes care of it then. I was
just afraid you were going to be away tomorrow
and Thursday and come back here on Friday and
we wouldn't have a chance.

H.M.Jr:

Ten-fifteen tomorrow morning. For a better
name, I will put down, "Foley, et al," and

make it ten-thirty.
Bell:

Et al?

H.M.Jr:

All right. Good-bye.

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June 10, 1941

Harold Graves

Secretary Morgenthau

I wish you would talk to me about trying to put

on some kind of a program or arrangement whereby each
week we can send something to each individual Senator
and each individual Congressman to keep them posted on

the progress that we are making with our Defense

Savings Bonds. I think it is very important; in fact,
I think it is sufficiently important that you assign
one man who will be thinking of something to send to
the Senators and Representatives each week so that
they will know what we are doing and the progress

we are making.

given to very again -7-1

Frusted

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June 10, 1941

Harold Graves

Secretary Morgenthau

I would like to make a suggestion as to how
the Defense Bonds should be advertised on the Texaco
Hour. Rather than the usual commercial announcement,

I suggest that if we have an artist like Lily Pons
sing that either just before or just after she sings,

she step out of character and say fifty or one hundred
words to the effect that she believes in Defense Bonds

and that she hopes all of the listeners do also. My
thought is that if each of our special artists did
that it would be quite novel and that would be the least

objectionable way to get over our message.

I wish you would talk this over with the people

who are handling the program, and give me a report on

it as soon as possible.

Followed up

Followed up at Defense Bonds Staff Meeting
on June 12. 1941. Group decided this
suggestion was inadvisable because of
the added expense which would be incurred.

Better to have same orchestra all the time

was unanimous opinion at end of discussion

on this subject.

350

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June 10, 1941

Harold Graves

Secretary Morgenthau

I also would like to suggest that on the Texaco
Hour we invite various well known orchestras to play
on different evenings so that we don't have the same
orchestra every time. Please think that one over.

Followed up at Defense Bonds Staff Meeting
6/12/41. Werner Josten has informed Mr.

Monroe he is writing a March, and he will
let him know when he has finished it.
When Mr. Monroe hears from him, it will
then be decided when he should appear on

the program.

352

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June 10, 1941

Harold Graves

Secretary Morgenthau

On the Texaso Hour, there is no reason why if
they have Werner Josten conduct that he couldn't conduct
one of his own compositions, and let the orchestra play
something that he composed himself. Please pass this

on and then let me know. I would like to have their
reaction. Some of his compositions are quite stirring
and he could suggest the one which he thought might be

most fitting for our program and then we could give it
consideration.

354

June 10, 1941.

Memorandum for the Secretary's Files

I mentioned the attached letter from James Rowe, Jr.,

to the Secretary during the staff meeting on Thursday,
June 5. He said that Rowe had handed it to him just before

he went in to see the President the previous day, but that
he had had no opportunity to mention the matter to the

President. I explained to the Secretary that I had told
Rowe that we could not recommend, or even investigate, a

candidate for a position now held by an appointee of this

administration except on direct request of the President

and that I did not think it was our responsibility to take
the matter up initially with the President.
I have since discussed the matter over the phone
with Rowe and he said he would try to speak to the President

himself about it.

my

355
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 4, 1941

Memorandum For:

The Secretary of the Treasury

Dear Mr. Secretary:

Collector of Internal Revenue for Iowa
If you have a moment at lunch today could

you take up the question of the Collector of
Internal Revenue for Iowa with the President?

Ed Flynn informs me that he and both Iowa
Senators would like to have E. H. Birmingham
appointed as Collector, to replace the incumbent,

Charles Huston.

Under Secretary Gaston tells me, however,

that the President recently sent a note to you

asking why Huston had not been reappointed,

and he says that therefore it will be necessary
to have a formal request from the President,
and that the usual investigation of Birmingham
will then be made.
Flynn is anxious to get rid of Birmingham
as State Chairman and thinks this is the solution.
Huston is almost ninety years old. Flynn is quite
anxious to get this done as soon as possible.
Will you let me know one way or the other?
Very sincerely,

In Rose

James Rowe, Jr.

Administrative Assistant
to the President

356
June 10, 1941

Dear Claude:

I am having the matter, mentioned in the note which you handed

me at Cabinet, looked into and just
as soon as we have the information

I will forward it on to you.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) Henry

Honorable Claude R. Wickard,

Secretary of Agriculture.

FILE TO NMC

357
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

9 have been
wed that German
people far ticularly

farmers, in nor thwest

Ohio are openly
Pno Kitter. anglaise
County was mentioned

I would be interested

in
knowing
about
the Bond Sales in
that area
Wickand

358

FIRST REPORT
UNDER

THE ACT OF MARCH 11, 1941
(Lead-Lease Act)

-

FIRST REPORT
UNDER THE ACT OF MARCH 11, , 1941
(Lend-Lease Act)

LETTER
FROM

THE PRESIDENT
TRANSMITTING

REPORT

UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON 1941

V
LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL

To the Congress of the United States.

Section 5 (b) of Public Law No. 11, Seventy-seventh Congress,
approved by me on March 11, 1941, provides in part as follows:

"The President from time to time, but not less frequently than
once every ninety days, shall transmit to the Congress a report of
operations under this Act except such information as he deems incompatible with the public interest to disclose."
In compliance with this provision, I am submitting this report.
We have supplied, and we will supply, planes, guns, ammunition.
and other defense articles in ever increasing quantities to Britain,
China, and other democracies resisting aggression.

Wars are not won by guns alone, but wars are not won without
guns. We all know this full well now. Beginning with the outbreak
of the war. the American public began to realize that it was in our
own national interest and security to help Britain, China, and the
other democratic nations.

Beginning with the outbreak of the war, British and French orders
began to be placed. But dollars could not be immediately turned into
airplanes and ships and guns and ammunition.
In those dark days when France was falling, it was clear that this
Government. to carry out the will of the people, had to render aid
over and above the matériel coming off the assembly line. This Government. therefore, made available all that it possibly could out of
its surplus stocks of munitions. In June of 1940, the British Government received from our surplus stocks rifles, machine guns, field artillery. ammunition, and aircraft in a value of more than 43 million

dollars This was equipment that would have taken months and
months to produce and which, with the exception of the aircraft.
cost about 300 million dollars to produce during the World War
period. Most of this matériel would not have been usable if we had

kept it much longer. This equipment arrived in Britain after the
retreat from Dunkirk. where the British had lost great quantities
of guns and other military supplies. No one can appraise what effect
the delivery of these supplies had upon the successful British resistance in the summer and fall of 1940 when they were fighting against
such terrific odds.
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V

Since June 1940, this Government has continued to supply war
matériel from its surplus stocks, in addition to the matériel produced
by private manufacturers. The 50 over-age destroyers which Britain
received in exchange for the defense bases were a part of the aid

Millions of pounds of food are being and will be sent. Iron and
steel, machine tools, and the other essentials to maintain and increase
the production of war materials in Britain are being sent and received
in larger quantities day by day.

supplied by the Government.

Since September 1939, the war goods sent to Britain have risen

By the turn of the year 1941, the British commitments in this
country for defense articles had reached the limit of their future

steadily. The over-all total exports to the British Empire have

dollar resources. Their striking power required the assurance that
their munitions and equipment would steadily and certainly be aug-

increase of those things which are necessary for fighting have increased

greatly increased in 1941 over 1940. What is more important, the
far beyond our other exports. In the first five months of this year,
we have sent more than twelve times as many airplanes to Britain as
we did in the first five months of 1940. And as the rate of aircraft
production increases, relatively more and more heavy bombers and

mented, not curtailed.

The will of our people, as expressed through the Congress, was to
meet this problem, not only by the passage of the Lend-Lease Act,
but by the appropriation of 7 billion dollars made on March 27th of
this year to carry out this task.
In the ninety days since the Lend-Lease Act was passed, and in
the seventy-four days since the funds were appropriated, we have
started in motion the vast supply program which is essential to the
defeat of the axis powers.
In these seventy-four days, more than 41/4 billion dollars out of the
7 billion dollars have been allocated to the War, Navy, Agriculture,
and Treasury Departments and to the Maritime Commission to pro-

medium bombers are being sent. At the same time, we have sent more
than ten times as many aircraft engines in the first five months of 1941

as we did in the first five months of 1940. For the first four months
of this year, the dollar value of explosives sent to the British Empire
was about seventeen times as much as for the first four months of 1940.

Ninety times as much in dollar value of firearms and ammunition was
sent to Britain during the first four months of this year as for the first
four months of 1940.

With our natural resources, our productive capacity, and the genius
of our people for mass production, we will help Britain to outstrip
the axis powers in munitions of war, and we will see to it that these

cure the aid authorized. Contracts have been let for long-range
bombers, ships, tanks, and the other sinews of war that will be needed

for the defense of the democracies. The balance of less than 23/4
billion is being rapidly allocated.
To be effective, the aid rendered by us must be many-sided. Ships
are necessary to carry the munitions and the food. We are immediately making available to Britain 2 million gross tons of cargo ships
and oil tankers.

But this is not enough. Adequate shipping for every day to
come must be reasonably assured. Since the Appropriation Act was
passed, 550 million dollars has been allocated for the construction
of new ships under the Lend-Lease Act. Contracts have been let
and the new ways required to build these ships are now nearing

completion. Allied ships are being repaired by us. Allied ships
are being equipped by us to protect them from mines, and are being
armed by us to protect them as much as possible against raiders.
Naval vessels of Britain are being repaired by us so that they can
return quickly to their naval tasks.

The training program of seven thousand British pilots in our
schools in this country is under way. Valuable information is being
communicated, and other material assistance is being rendered in a
mounting benefit to the democracies.

)

munitions get to the places where they can be effectively used to weaken
and defeat the aggressors.

In the report that follows, facts and figures are given to the extent
advisable without disclosing military secrets to benefit the axis powers.
These facts describe the past and portray the present status of our aid
to those nations so gallantly fighting the aggressors. They do not
present the most important fact of all-the strong will of our people
to see to it that these forces of aggression shall not rule the world.
We have before us a constant purpose not of present safety alone
but, equally, of future survival.
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

June 10, 1941.

)

CONTENTS
Page

Chapter I. Summary of Lend-Lease Legislation

1

Chapter II. Operations

4

1. General
4

2. Summary of lend-lease operations

6

)

Chapter III. Agreements and Assurances

13

1

Chapter IV. Organization and Procedure

14

Appendix

17

VII

FIRST REPORT UNDER THE ACT OF MARCH 11, 1941
(LEND-LEASE ACT)

CHAPTER I

SUMMARY OF LEND-LEASE LEGISLATION
1. THE LEND-LEASE ACT

Ninety days ago, the Congress enacted the Lend-Lease Act-the

Act of March 11, 1941.

The main object of this Act is to promote the defense of the United
States by supplying material aid to those nations whose defense is
vital to our defense. Unlike prior methods, it focuses directly on the
aid to be rendered rather than upon the dollar sign ultimately to be
translated into war material.
The material aid which can be rendered under the Act is of several
kinds. Guns, tanks, planes and other defense articles in stock or
procured from appropriations made prior to March 11, 1941, can be
lend-leased or otherwise disposed of after consultation with the Chief
of Staff of the Army or the Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy,
or both, to the extent of $1,300,000,000. Defense information-plans,
specifications or other information-relating to defense articles turned
over can be communicated to those nations resisting the aggressors.
Plants can be erected or expanded, and defense articles can be
manufactured or procured on behalf of such foreign nations when
Congress authorizes it or appropriates the necessary funds. Ships
and other defense articles can be repaired, tested, inspected or put
into good working condition for those foreign nations whose defense
is vital to ours when Congress provides the necessary funds or contract authorizations.
Protection of our national interest is specifically provided for in the
Act by requiring any nation to which defense articles or defense information is transferred to obtain the consent of the President before

turning them over to any other foreign nation or anyone not an
agent, officer or employee of such government.
Protection and furtherance of our own defense is also assured by

the Act by reason of the fact that this Government-particularly the
A copy of the Act is contained in the Appendix.
1

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War and Navy Departments-controls and merges our own production and procurement program with that on behalf of those nations
whose defense vitally affects ours. By a fused production and procurement program based on as high a degree of standardization of
our own and foreign specifications as possible, we are in a position
sooner to have a productive capacity that can outstrip our potential
enemies. By reason of the fact that we retain control of the defense
plants and of the defense articles until they are manufactured and
ready for disposition, we also safeguard our defense. In the event
that our own use of the defense articles procured under the Lend.
Lease Act will further our national defense more than disposing of
them to those countries whose defense is vital to ours, we can so
use them.

3. THE DEFENSE AID APPROPRIATION ACT

Seventy-four days ago, the Congress enacted the Defense Aid Sup-

plemental Appropriation Act-the Act of March 27, 1941.

This Act appropriated $7,000,000,000 to carry out those provisions
of the organic Lend-Lease Act which require additional Congressional

authority or appropriations. In the main these funds were appropriated for: The construction or expansion of plant facilities to manufacture or repair, test, or prove defense articles on behalf of any foreign
nation whose defense is vital to ours; the new procurement of guns,
aircraft, tanks, vessels, food and other defense articles; and the services
and expenses necessary to carry out the Lend-Lease Act.
The organic Lend-Lease Act empowers the President, when Congress
appropriates the requisite funds, to execute these powers of plant con-

struction, repairing and new procurement through the Secretary of
War, the Secretary of the Navy or the head of any other department
or agency concerned. The Appropriation Act contemplates that the
President will allocate the necessary funds to those departments and
agencies of the Government, such as the War, Navy and Agriculture
Departments, the Maritime Commission and the Procurement Division
of the Treasury Department, most experienced in procuring the particular defense articles desired.
Power is given to the President by the Appropriation Act to reimburse to the extent of $1,300,000,000 those departments and agencies
which dispose under the Lend-Lease Act of defense articles procured
from appropriations made prior to March 11, 1941.
Power is also given to the President to turn over to the War, Navy
or any other department or agency of the United States Government
any defense article procured out of the 7 billion dollar appropriation
if he deems it in the interest of our defense to do so.
A copy of this Act is contained In the Appendix

3

3. LEND-LEASE PRIORITIES-THE VINSON BILL

The Lend-Lease Act provided for the placement of all orders for
defense articles by the War and Navy Departments and such other
departments and agencies of the United States Government as are
designated by the President. The orders placed by the Army and
Navy-by far the major part of the orders to be placed under the LendLease Act-could doubtless have been given statutory priority over all
deliveries for private account or for export under the Act of June 28,
1940 (Public No. 671-76th Congress).
To eliminate any doubt on this score and to enable regular defense
and lend-lease orders of the other departments and agencies of the
Government, such as the Maritime Commission, the Coast Guard, the
Procurement Division of the Treasury Department, etc., to have statu-

tory priority, the Congress enacted the Vinson Priorities Bill (Act of
May 31, 1941, Public No. 89-77th Congress). At the present time,
therefore, all lend-lease orders can be given statutory priority.
A copy of this Act is contained in the Appendix

5

UNITED STATES EXPORTS
TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE AND EGYPT

CHAPTER II
DOLLARS

Millions

It should be noted that lend-lease orders placed now with deliveries

coming in the future are the necessary complement to the British
orders placed last year, the deliveries from which are the principal
source of British exports. These current exports, however, must be

240

A A British Empire
200

United Kingdom

200

160

160

120

120

80

maintained and increased by whatever defense articles can be released

80

40

40

0

D

from Army and Navy stocks, as well as by the release of equipment
from the production lines of tomorrow.
Since September of 1939 when the war started, the United States
has played an ever increasingly active part in helping the United
Kingdom and its allies to secure planes, guns, ammunition, and other
implements of war. The total exports from the United States to the
British Empire have steadily increased during this period. For instance, the total dollar value of all exports to the British Empire for
the first quarter of 1941 was nearly two and one-half times the value
for the first quarter of 1939 and over half again higher than the value
for the same period of 1940. The following table reflects graphically
the increase in United States exports to the British Empire, to the
British Empire and Egypt, and to the United Kingdom.

Egypt

240

D

1. GENERAL

Millions

0

OPERATIONS

DOLLARS

Monthly September 1939 to March 1941

040

193

1940

DOLLARS

Billions

DOLLARS
Brillions

Cumulative Monthly September 1939 to March 1941

40

40

36

34

1.2

12

2.8

2.8

2.4

24

To British Empire

plus Egypt

4
20

2.0

To All

British Empire
16

16

1.2

1.2

.

8

>To United Kingdom
4

4

0
D

N

0

1939

1941

1940

including

.

0

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6

2. SUMMARY OF LEND-LEASE OPERATIONS

During the period from March 11 to May 31, 1941, inclusive, defense articles of all kinds amounting to a little over $75,000,000 have

been transferred under the Lend-Lease Act. Of this total value.
about $64,000,000 of defense articles, procured from appropriations
made prior to March 11, 1941, and about $11,000,000 of defense articles, procured from appropriations under the Defense Aid Sup.
plemental Appropriation Act, were transferred.

In connection with the dollar value of articles authorized for
transfer. it should be emphasized that in all cases this value is an
estimated value and may in many cases represent an approximate
evaluation placed upon a specific article after depreciation. obsoles
cence, deterioration, etc., have been taken into account. A formal
valuation procedure has been established to survey all transfers and
determine true valuations.

Summary statements of defense articles transferred as of May 31,
1941 appear on the opposite page.

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9

The Lend-Lease Act coupled with the Defense Aid Supplemental
Appropriation Act of March 27th made possible the placement of
orders on the basis of requirements submitted by those countries the
defense of which the President deemed vital to the United States,
As of May 31, 1941, over $4,200,000,000 equal to 60 per cent of
the $7,000,000,000 appropriated by Congress for lend-lease orders
have been allocated for specific purposes. Over 2,000 requisitions setting forth specific requirements have been received for the procurement of defense articles during the period March 11 to June 1, 1941.
All requisitions have been carefully studied by those government
departments or agencies best qualified to survey them, and allocations have been made by the President on the basis of such departmental or agency recommendations as were approved by the Division

of Defense Aid Reports and the Director of the Bureau of the
Budget.

In addition, allocations amounting to approximately $137,000,000
have been made for facilities necessary to back up the procurement
program. The breakdown of the allocations made, by departments
and by classifications, are summarized in the following tables:
Allocations by departments under the Defense Aid Supplemental Appropriation
Act, 1941, as of May 31, 1941
Department or agency
War

Summary of allocations by appropriations under the Defense Aid Supplemental
Appropriation Act, 1941, as of May 31, 1941
Ordnance and ordnance stores

Aircraft and aeronautical material
Tanks and other vehicles
Miscellaneous military equipment
Facilities and equipment
Agricultural, industrial, and other commodities
Testing, reconditioning etc., of defense articles

589, 339,958.00
562, 354,800.00

Treasury

180, 085, 863. 50

Agriculture

54. 886. 305 00

Executive Office of the President

25, 000.00

Office for Emergency Management

100,000.00

Total

4,277,412,879.50

It should be noted in this connection that lend-lease orders, although based on the re-

48,385,880.00
3,042,606.00

Administrative expenses
Total

45,574.00
4, 277, 1,412,879.50

Statement of allocations by appropriation and purpose under the Defense Aid
Supplemental Appropriation Act, 1941, as of May 31, 1941
Ordnance and ordnance stores:
Ammunition

Small-arms ammunition
Artillery ammunition
Aircraft bombs and pyrotechnics
Explosives, propellant powders, and miscellaneous ammunition
Subtotal

Ordnance material:
Small arms and infantry weapons

Artillery material
Antiaircraft material
Aircraft armament

Miscellaneous fire control
Torpedo equipment
Mine equipment
Miscellaneous ordnance and ordnance stores

quirements of a foreign government, are actually United States Government orders and are

Subtotal

treated the same as any other United States defense contract. Defense articles delivered
from lend-lease contracts can only be transferred to the custody of a foreign government

with the consent of the President.

137,134,818.00
280,314,697.50

Services and expenses

Allocations

Navy

318,502,800.00
551,414,140.00
119,172,013.00

Vessels and other watereraft

$2,890,620,953.00

Maritime Commission

$880,176,863.00

1,938,823,489.00

Unclassified ordnance allocations
Total

$38, 359, 000.

235, 139, 150.

52,330,000.00
432,194.00

330,260,344.00

81,264,000.00
21,348,550.00

222,063,000.00
164, 601, 250.
5, 257,911.00

647,000.00
8,000,000.00

5,000,000.00
518,181,711.00
31, 734,808.00
880, 176,863.00

Aircraft and aeronautical material:
Aircraft
Bombardment

Pursuit, interceptor, and fighter
Transport, utility, and other
Training
Subtotal

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1,396,063,000.00
232,330,000.00
2,640,000
76, 800, 000.0
1, 707, 833, 000.0

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11

Statement of allocations by appropriation and purpose under the Defense Aid
Supplemental Appropriation Act, 1941, as of May 31, 1941-Continued
Aircraft and aeronautical material-Continued.
00

Aircraft engines, spare parts, and accessories:
Spare engines and engine parts

Spare propellers and spare propeller parts.
Accessories and other parts
Subtotal

General aeronautical supplies and equipment
Modernization and reconditioning of completed aircraft
Unclassified aircraft allocations
Total

$117,625,014.00
22,060,000.00
10,000,000.00

10,231,868.00
25,000,000.00
46,073,607.00

Tanks and other vehicles:
Ordnance vehicles:

Other ordnance combat vehicles (except tanks)
Miscellaneous ordnance automotive supplies
Subtotal

138,810,000.00
80,767,000.00
22,397,000.00
241,974,000.00

Other than ordnance vehicles:
Trucks

Automobiles

Other automotive supplies
Miscellaneous automotive supplies
Subtotal

Unclassified vehicle allocations

46,004,000.00
3,710,200.00

2,055,000.00
8,272,800.00

60,042,000.00
16,486,800.00
318,502,800.00

Total

Miscellaneous military equipment, supplies, and material:
Quartermaster equipment, supplies, and material
Clothing

Equipage

Kitchen, mess, and field baking equipment
Fuel

149,685,014.00

1,938,823,469.00

Tanks

Statement of allocations by appropriation and purpose under the Defense Aid
Supplemental Appropriation Act, 1941. as of May 31, 1941-Continued

Provisions

Miscellaneous quartermaster supplies
Subtotal

Signal equipment. supplies, and material
Chemical warfare equipment, supplies, and material
Engineer equipment, supplies, and material
Aircraft equipment, supplies, and material
Unclassified equipment
Total

Facilities and equipment for production, total
Agricultural, industrial, and other commodities
Agricultural products-Foodstuffs:
Dairy products and eggs
Meat, fish. fowl
Fruits, vegetables, and nuts
Grain and cereal products
Lard, fats, and oils
Other foodstuffs not classified above
Subtotal

Agricultural products-Other than foodstuff
Vessels and equipment for vessels:

Watercraft
Combatant

Naval auxiliary and small craft
Merchant
Subtotal
Equipage

Unclassified vessel allocations
Total

12,750,000.00
29,447,000.00

500,011,800.00
542,208,800.00
4,360,140.00

4,645,200.00
551,414,140.00

Machinery, equipment, materials, and supplies:
Agricultural implements
Road-building equipment, materials, and supplies
Electrical equipment. materials, and supplies
Fire-fighting equipment, materials, and supplies
Other

Subtotal

Metallic minerals:
Iron and steel

$1,499,393.00

4,686,804.00
557,335.00
5,164,000.00
600,000.00

9,810,972.00
22,318,504.00
75,592,895.00
5,739,800.00
9,752,394.00
1,668,420.00
4,100,000.00
119,172,013.00
137,134,818.00

31,658,000.00
6,055,400.00
5,960,000.00
3,000,000.00
3,577,000.00
1,543,600.00
51,884,000.00

3,000,000.00

1,258,814.00
2,650,054.00
1,796,480.00
770,000.00

2,781,973.00
9,257,321.00

95,314,000.00

Copper and brass

15,925,000.00

Zinc

20,907,500.00

Lead

Other metals and alloys
Subtotal

936,000.00

2. 712,096.00
135. 7,494,596.

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AGREEMENTS AND ASSURANCES

Statement of allocations by appropriation and purpose under the Defense Aid
Supplemental Appropriation Act, 1941, as of May 31, 1941-Continued

Section 4 of the Lend-Lease Act provides as follows:

Agricultural, Industrial, and other commodities Continued
Nonmetallic minerals:
Nitrates

$500,000.00

Phosphates

750,000.00

Subtotal

1,250,000.00

Petroleum and coal products
Miscellaneous and unclassified equipment and materials
Total

All contracts or agreements made for the disposition of any defense article or
defense information pursuant to section 3 shall contain a clause by which the
foreign government undertakes that it will not, without the consent of the Prestdent, transfer title to or possession of such defense article or defense information
by gift, sale, or otherwise, or permit its use by anyone not an officer, employee,
or agent of such foreign government.

2,898,400.00
76,230,380.50

Section 7 of the Lend-Lease Act provides as follows:

280,314,697.50

The Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy, and the head of the department or agency shall in all contracts or agreements for the disposition of any
defense article or defense information fully protect the rights of all citizens of
the United States who have patent rights In and to any such article or information which is hereby authorized to be disposed of and the payments collected
for royalties on such patents shall be paid to the owners and holders of such

Testing, reconditioning etc., of defense articles:
Servicing of defense articles:
Vessels

26,856,000.00

Stores, etc

13,918,880.00

Subtotal

40,774,880.00

Unclassified services

patents

7,611,000.00

Before any defense articles were transferred, the Ambassador or the

48,385,880.00

duly accredited officer of the foreign government receiving the de-

Services and expenses
Administrative expenses

3,042,605.00

Grand total

77,412,879.50

fense articles was required to make the necessary agreement and give
the requisite assurances that his government would comply with Sections 4 and 7 of the Act of March 11, 1941. These agreements and
assurances provide in substance that no defense article or defense information received by the foreign nation under the Lend-Lease Act
will be turned over to anyone not an agent, officer or employee of such

Total

445,574.00

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government without first obtaining the consent of the President.
These agreements also provide that when called upon to do so by the
United States they will take the requisite steps and make such payments as are necessary to protect the rights of American patent holders
as provided in Section 7.
Section 3 (b) of the Lend-Lease Act provides as follows:
The terms and conditions upon which any such foreign government receives
any aid authorized under subsection (a) shall be those which the President
deems satisfactory, and the benefit to the United States may be payment or
repayment in kind or property or any other direct or indirect benefit which the
President deems satisfactory.

Work has started on the agreements to fix the terms and conditions,
under Section 3 (b), upon which the foreign governments receive the
aid.

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CHAPTER IV

Reports falls normally into six categories-namely, processing of
requirements, fiscal accounts, statistical operations, transportation

ORGANIZATION AND PROCEDURE

coordination, liaison between governmental agencies and foreign governments, and legal problems. In addition, because of the complex
problems which arise, it is becoming increasingly necessary to utilize
the services of special analysts and attorneys to devote full time to
studying the varied and complicated ramifications of the defense aid

On May 2, 1941, the President issued an Executive Order establishing the Division of Defense Aid Reports in the Office for Emergency
Management of the Executive Office of the President.
In accordance with this order, the President subsequently, on May
6th, designated by military order an Executive Officer of the Division
of Defense Aid Reports to administer the functions described in the
Executive Order.

program.

The first step in the furnishing of defense aid to a foreign government must necessarily be the determination of specific requirements.
In most instances, such a determination requires a series of conferences

It was specifically provided in the Order of May 2nd that the Division of Defense Aid Reports should provide a central channel for
the clearance of transactions and reports; that it should coordinate
the processing of requests for aid under the Lend-Lease Act; that it
should maintain a system of reports and accounts, approved by the
Bureau of the Budget; and that it should serve as a clearing house
of information for agencies participating in the lend-lease program.
Although its formal organization was not established until May
2nd, approximately six weeks after the passage of the Lend-Lease

and negotiations between the military and technical representatives
of the department or agency of the United States Government which
is best qualified to deal with any specific purchasing program. To
expedite this determination of requirements, the War Department,
for instance, has instituted a Division of Defense Aid in the office

of the Under Secretary of War. In addition, the War Department
established Defense Aid Requirements Committees which included
in their membership representatives of foreign governments receiving defense aid. In the case of the other procuring agencies, similar steps have been taken to expedite the flow of defense aid and to

Act, defense aid operations were carried on during that interim

maintain adequate records of defense aid transactions.

period by the group which had performed the administrative fune-

tions of the President's Liaison Committee for the coordination

of foreign and domestic military purchases during the preceding
twelve months.

Under the Lend-Lease Act, actual purchasing operations are conducted by the various governmental departments or agencies best
qualified to do any specific procurement job. Actual procurement
negotiations are carried on by each department operating in its own
field in the same manner and in the same way as negotiations are carried out for any defense contract. Up to the present time, the War
Department, the Navy Department, the Treasury Department, the Department of Agriculture, and the Maritime Commission have all participated directly as procurement agencies under the Lend-Lease Act.
In addition, the Office of Production Management, the Department
of Commerce, the Department of State, the Department of Justice,
and the Department of Interior have all contributed to the defense
aid program in an advisory capacity.
The Division of Defense Aid Reports serves as a channel for the
processing of defense aid requests, as a control point for the coordination of such requests, and as a repository for the over-all records and
accounts required by law. The work of the Division of Defense Aid
Copy of this Executive Order is contained In the Appendix.
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In order that the Division of Defense Aid Reports might adequately
perform its functions, every foreign government desiring defense aid
under the provisions of the Lend-Lease Act has been requested to
submit to the Division formal signed requisitions for specific defense
articles or defense services. These requests are prepared on standard
requisition forms and submitted to the Division of Defense Aid Reports from which they are forwarded to the procuring agency of the
United States Government best qualified to make a recommendation
as to whether the specific item should be supplied. When these requisitions are received by a procuring agency, they are studied from the
point of view as to whether the items called for can be supplied from
stock on hand, whether they can be diverted from existing contracts,

or whether they will have to be ordered for future delivery. The
recommendation of the Department with respect to every requisition

is forwarded to the Division of Defense Aid Reports for further
processing and approval.
The detailed organization of War Department defense aid operations is contained in the

Appendix,

A standard requisition form is contained in the Appendix.
'A standard recommendation form is contained in the Appendix.

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If a specific item to be supplied can be released from stock or
diverted from contracts placed with appropriations made prior to
March 11, 1941, the Division of Defense Aid Reports secures a Presj.

dential directive authorizing the agency in question to transfer the
defense articles to the foreign government. If the item recommended
to be supplied involves the placement of a new order, it is the responsibility of the Division, if it approves, to secure an allocation of
funds so that the procuring agency may actually place the contract.
It should be noted, however, that an allocation of funds for the placement of a defense aid contract may not necessarily include the power
to transfer the defense articles produced to the foreign government
which filed the original requisition.
In order that proper accounting and fiscal reports may be compiled,
a fiscal unit was established in the Division and a system for financial
defense aid reports initiated, which has the approval of the President,

the Secretary of the Treasury, the Comptroller-General and the
Director of the Bureau of the Budget. These records reflect every
angle of defense aid financial operations, expressed both in terms

of dollars and in terms of quantities. Specific records cover the
status of appropriations, the acquisition and disposition of defense
articles, defense aid services, defense aid facilities, the consideration
received from foreign governments, and the receipts for defense
articles transferred to foreign governments. Complete financial and
accounting reports are received from all the procuring agencies semimonthly and are used as one of the bases for compiling the operating
reports of the Division.
In addition to the standard forms for requisitions and recommendations and in addition to the specified fiscal and accounting reports,
individual case histories of requisitions are being compiled. These
case histories provide a complete historical record of each specific
item, and a controlling system for the coordination of requirements
and programs, procurement between purchasing agencies, procurement between foreign governments, and for expediting action on
recommendations, the placement of orders and the delivery of goods.
The great mass of detailed information contained in the various
operating forms, in the case histories, and in the fiscal reports are
summarized by an operations analysis unit. These statistical summaries are compiled on a current basis and are used for controlling

APPENDIX

internal operations and for providing complete information on
defense aid operations.

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THE LEND-LEASE ACT
[PUBLIC LAW 11-77TH CONGRESS]
[CHAPTER 11-18T SESSION]
[H. R. 1776
AN ACT

Further to promote the defense of the United States, and for other purposes

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of

the United States of America in Congress assembled. That this Act

may be cited as "An Act to Promote the Defense of the United

States".

SEC. 2. As used in this Act(a) The term " defense article" means(1) Any weapon, munition, aircraft, vessel, or boat;
(2) Any machinery, facility, tool, material, or supply necessary for the manufacture, production, processing, repair, servicing. or operation of any article described in this subsection;
(3) Any component material or part of or equipment for any
article described in this subsection:

(4) Any agricultural, industrial or other commodity or article

for defense.

Such term "defense article" includes any article described in this
subsection: Manufactured or procured pursuant to section 3. or to
which the United States or any foreign government has or hereafter
acquires title, possession, or control.
(b) The term "defense information" means any plan, specification,

design, prototype, or information pertaining to any defense article.
SEC. 3. (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, the
President may, from time to time, when he deems it in the interest
of national defense, authorize the Secretary of War, the Secretary
of the Navy, or the head of any other department or agency of the
Government-

(1) To manufacture in arsenals, factories, and shipyards un-

der their jurisdiction, or otherwise procure, to the extent to
which funds are made available therefor, or contracts are authorized from time to time by the Congress, or both. any defense

article for the government of any country whose defense the

President deems vital to the defense of the United States.
(2) To sell, transfer title to, exchange, lease, lend. or otherwise
dispose of, to any such government any defense article, but no
defense article not manufactured or procured under paragraph
(1) shall in any way be disposed of under this paragraph, except

after consultation with the Chief of Staff of the Army or the

Chief of Naval Operations of the Navy, or both. The value of
defense articles disposed of in any way under authority of this
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paragraph, and procured from funds heretofore appropriated,

is

shall not exceed $1,300,000,000. The value of such defense articles
shall be determined by the head of the department or agency con-

cerned or such other department, agency or officer as shall be
designated in the manner provided in the rules and regulations
issued hereunder. Defense articles procured from funds hereafter appropriated to any department or agency of the Government, other than from funds authorized to be appropriated under
this Act, shall not be disposed of in any way under authority of
this paragraph except to the extent hereafter authorized by the
Congress in the Acts appropriating such funds or otherwise.
(3) To test, inspect, prove, repair, outfit, recondition, or otherwise to place in good working order, to the extent to which funds
are made available therefor, or contracts are authorized from time
to time by the Congress, or both, any defense article for any such
government, or to procure any or all such services by private
contract.

operations under this Act except such information as he deems incom-

patible with the public interest to disclose. Reports provided for
under this subsection shall be transmitted to the Secretary of the
Senate or the Clerk of the House of Representatives, as the case may
be, if the Senate or the House of Representatives, as the case may be,
is not in session.

SEC. 6. (a) There is hereby authorized to be appropriated from
time to time, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such amounts as may be necessary to carry out the provisions
and accomplish the purposes of this Act.

(b) All money and all property which is converted into money

(4) To communicate to any such government any defense information, pertaining to any defense article furnished to such
government under paragraph (2) of this subsection.
(5) To release for export any defense article disposed of in
any way under this subsection to any such government.
(b) The terms and conditions upon which any such foreign government receives any aid authorized under subsection (a) shall be those
which the President deems satisfactory, and the benefit to the United
States may be payment or repayment in kind or property, or any other
direct or indirect benefit which the President deems satisfactory.

received under section 3 from any government shall, with the approval
of the Director of the Budget. revert to the respective appropriation
or appropriations out of which funds were expended with respect to
the defense article or defense information for which such consideration
is received, and shall be available for expenditure for the purpose for

which such expended funds were appropriated by law, during the
fiscal year in which such funds are received and the ensuing fiscal
year; but in no event shall any funds so received be available for

(c) After June 30, 1943, or after the passage of a concurrent

resolution by the two Houses before June 30, 1943, which declares
that the powers conferred by or pursuant to subsection (a) are no
longer necessary to promote the defense of the United States, neither
the President nor the head of any department or agency shall exercise any of the powers conferred by or pursuant to subsection (a)
except that until July 1, 1946, any of such powers may be exercised
to the extent necessary to carry out a contract or agreement with such
a foreign government made before July 1, 1943, or before the passage
of such concurrent resolution, whichever is the earlier.

(d) Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize or to

permit the authorization of convoying vessels by naval vessels of the
United States.

(e) Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize or to per-

mit the authorization of the entry of any American vessel into a

combat area in violation of section 3 of the Neutrality Act of 1939.
SEC. 4. All contracts or agreements made for the disposition of
any defense article or defense information pursuant to section 3 shall
contain a clause by which the foreign government undertakes that

it will not, without the consent of the President, transfer title to

or possession of such defense article or defense information by gift,
sale, or otherwise, or permit its use by anyone not an officer, employee,
or agent of such foreign government.

SEC. 5. (a) The Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy, or

the head of any other department or agency of the Government
involved shall, when any such defense article or defense information

exported, immediately inform the department or agency designated

by the President to administer section 6 of the Act of July 2, 1940
(54 Stat. 714), of the quantities, character, value, terms of disposition, and destination of the article and information so exported.
(b) The President from time to time, but not less frequently than
once every ninety days, shall transmit to the Congress a report of

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expenditure after June 30, 1946.
SEC. 7. The Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy, and the
head of the department or agency shall in all contracts or agreements
for the disposition of any defense article or defense information fully
protect the rights of all citizens of the United States who have patent

rights in and to any such article or information which is hereby

authorized to be disposed of and the payments collected for royalties
on such patents shall be paid to the owners and holders of such patents.

SEC. 8. The Secretaries of War and of the Navy are hereby

authorized to purchase or otherwise acquire arms, ammunition, and
implements of war produced within the jurisdiction of any country
to which section 3 is applicable, whenever the President deems such
purchase or acquisition to be necessary in the interests of the defense
of the United States.
SEC. 9. The President may, from time to time, promulgate such
rules and regulations as may be necessary and proper to carry out any

of the provisions of this Act; and he may exercise any power or
authority conferred on him by this Act through such department,
agency, or officer as he shall direct.

SEC. 10.- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to change existing

law relating to the use of the land and naval forces of the United
States, except insofar as such use relates to the manufacture, procurement, and repair of defense articles, the communication of information and other noncombatant purposes enumerated in this Act.

SEC. 11. If any provision of this Act or the application of such
provision to any circumstance shall be held invalid, the validity of
the remainder of the Act and the applicability of such provision to
other circumstances shall not be affected thereby.
Approved, March 11, 1941.

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(d) For necessary services and expenses for carrying out the pur-

DEFENSE AID SUPPLEMENTAL
APPROPRIATION ACT,
1941

poses of such Act not specified or included in the foregoing,
$40,000,000.
(e) For administrative expenses, $10,000,000.
(f) In all, $7,000,000,000, to remain available until June 30, 1943.

[PUBLIC LAW 23-77TH CONGRESS]

SEC. 2. If any defense article procured from an appropriation
made before March 11, 1941, is disposed of, under such Act of
March 11, 1941, by any department or agency to the government
of any country whose defense the President deemed vital to the
defense of the United States, the President may transfer, from the

[CHAPTER 30-1st SESSION]
(H, R. 4050]
AN ACT

appropriations made by this Act to the appropriate appropriation of
such department or agency, an amount equivalent to the value (as
computed for the purposes of the $1,300,000,000 limitation contained
in section 8 (a) (2) of such Act of March 11, 1941) of the defense

Making supplemental appropriations for the national defense to provide aid to
the government of any country whose defense the President deems vital to the
defense of the United States, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That to enable the
President, through such departments or agencies of the Government
as he may designate, to carry out the provisions of An Act to Promote
the Defense of the United States, approved March 11, 1941, and for
each and every purpose incident to or necessary therefor, there is

article so disposed of, but not to exceed in the aggregate

$1,300,000,000.

SEC. 3. Any defense article procured from an appropriation made

by this Act shall be retained by or transferred to and for the use

hereby appropriated, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, the following sums for the following respective

purposes, namely:

(a) For the procurement, by manufacture or otherwise, of defense
articles for the government of any country whose defense the President deems vital to the defense of the United States, including services and expenses in connection therewith, as follows:
(1) Ordnance and ordnance stores, supplies, spare parts, and mate-

rials, including armor and ammunition and components thereof,
$1,343,000,000.

(2) Aircraft and aeronautical material, including engines, spare
parts, and accessories, $2,054,000,000.

(3) Tanks, armored cars, automobiles, trucks, and other automotive
vehicles, spare parts, and accessories, $362,000,000.

(4) Vessels, ships, boats, and other watercraft, and equipage, supplies, materials, spare parts, and accessories, $629,000,000.

(5) Miscellaneous military equipment, supplies, and materials,
$260,000,000.

(6) Facilities and equipment, for the manufacture or production

of defense articles, by construction or acquisition, including the
acquisition of land, and the maintenance and operation of such facilities and equipment, $752,000,000.

(7) Agricultural, industrial, and other commodities and articles,
$1,350,000,000.

(b) For testing, inspecting, proving. repairing, outfitting, reconditioning, or otherwise placing in good working order any defense
articles for the government of any country whose defense the Presi-

dent deems vital to the defense of the United States, Including

services and expenses in connection therewith, $200,000,000.

(c) Not to exceed 20 per centum of any of the foregoing eight

appropriations may be transferred by the President to any other
such appropriation, but no appropriation shall be increased by more
than 30 per centum.
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of such department or agency of the United States as the President
may determine, in lieu of being disposed of to a foreign government,
whenever in the judgment of the President the defense of the United
States will be best served thereby.
SEC. 4. No part of any appropriation contained in this Act shall
be used to pay the salary or wages of any person who advocates, or
who is a member of an organization that advocates, the overthrow of
the Government of the United States by force or violence: Provided,
That for the purposes hereof an affidavit shall be considered prima
facie evidence that the person making the affidavit does not advocate,
and is not a member of an organization that advocates, the overthrow
of the Government of the United States by force or violence Provided further, That any person who advocates, or who is a member
of an organization that advocates, the overthrow of the Government
of the United States by force or violence and accepts employment
the salary or wages for which are paid from any appropriation in

this Act shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, shall be

fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned for not more than one year,
or both: Provided further, That the above penalty clause shall be in

addition to, and not in substitution for, any other provisions of

existing law.

SEC. 5. This Act may be cited as the "Defense Aid Supplemental
Appropriation Act, 1941".
Approved, March 27, 1941, 10:50 a. m., E. S. T.

VINSON PRIORITIES ACT

EXECUTIVE ORDER

[PUBLIC LAW 89-77TH CONGRESS

ESTABLISHING THE DIVISION OF DEFENSE AID REPORTS IN THE OFFICE
FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OF THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE

[CHAPTER 157-18T SESSION]

PRESIDENT

[H. R. 4534]

By virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and
Statutes and by the Act of March 11, 1941, entitled "An Act to
Promote the Defense of the United States" (hereafter referred to
as the Act), in order to define further the functions and duties of
the Office for Emergency Management of the Executive Office of

AN ACT

To amend the Act approved June 28, 1940, entitled "An Act to expedite the
national defense, and for other purposes", in order to extend the power to
establish priorities and allocate material.

the President in respect to the national emergency as declared by
the President on September 8, 1939, and in order to provide for the
effective administration of said Act in the interest of national defense, it is hereby ordered as follows:
1. There is established within the Office for Emergency Management of the Executive Office of the President the Division of Defense Aid Reports, at the head of which shall be an Executive Officer

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That section 2 of
the Act approved June 28, 1940 (Public, Numbered 671, Seventy-sixth

Congress), as amended, is amended by inserting "(1)" after "SEC.

2. (a)" and by adding at the end of subsection (a) thereof the

following:

(2) Deliveries of material to which priority may be assigned
pursuant to paragraph (1) shall include, in addition to deliveries

appointed by the President. The Executive Officer shall receive
compensation at such rate as the President shall approve and, in
addition, shall be entitled to actual and necessary transportation,
subsistence, and other expenses incidental to the performance of

of material under contracts or orders of the Army or Navy, deliveries
of material under-

his duties.

"(A) contracts or orders for the Government of any country
whose defense the President deems vital to the defense of the
United States under the terms of the Act of March 11, 1941,
entitled 'An Act to promote the defense of the United States':

2. Subject to such policies and directions as the President may
from time to time prescribe, the Division of Defense Aid Reports
shall perform and discharge the following described duties and
responsibilities:

"(B) contracts or orders which the President shall deem necessary or appropriate to promote the defense of the United States;

a. Provide a central channel for the clearance of transactions and
reports, and coordinate the processing or requests for aid under

and

"(C) subcontracts or suborders which the President shall deem

necessary or appropriate to the fulfillment of any contract or
order as specified in this section.
Deliveries under any contract or order specified in this section may
be assigned priority over deliveries under any other contract or order.

Whenever the President is satisfied that the fulfillment of require-

ments for the defense of the United States will result in a shortage in
the supply of any material for defense or for private account or for
export, the President may allocate such material in such manner and
to such extent as he shall deem necessary or appropriate in the public

interest and to promote the national defense. The President shall
be entitled to obtain such information from, require such reports by,
and make such inspection of the premises of, any person, firm, or
corporation as may be necessary or appropriate, in his discretion,
to the enforcement or administration of the provisions of this section.
No person, firm, or corporation shall be held liable for damages or
penalties for any default under any contract or order which shall

result directly or indirectly from his compliance with any rule,

regulation, or order issued under this section. The President may
exercise any power, authority, or discretion conferred on him by this
section, through such department, agency, or officer of the Gov-

ernment as he may direct and in conformity with any rules and

(

the Act.

b. Maintain such system of records and summary accounts to be
approved by the Bureau of the Budget, as may be necessary for adequate administrative and financial control over operations under the
Act and as will currently reflect the status of all such operations.
c. Prepare such reports as may be necessary to keep the President informed of progress under the Act: assist in the preparation of reports
pursuant to Section 5b of the Act: and serve generally as a clearing
house of information for agencies participating in the program.

d. Perform such other duties relating to defense aid activities as
the President may from time to time prescribe.

3. Within the limitation of such funds as may be allocated for

the Division of Defense Aid Reports by the President. the Executive
Officer may employ necessary personnel and make provision for the
necessary supplies, facilities. and services. In so far as practicable,
the Division of Defense Aid Reports shall use such general business
services and facilities as may be made available to it through the

Office for Emergency Management or other agencies of the

Government.

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
THE WHITE HOUSE,

May 2, 1941.

regulations which he may prescribe."
Approved, May 31, 1941.
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WAR DEPARTMENT
THE ADJUTANT GENERAL'S OFFICE
WASHINGTON

MILITARY ORDER
AG 020.1 (3-29-41) M-M

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United
States and as Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the

APRIL 10, 1941.

Subject: Procedure Under the Lend-Lease Act.
To: The Chiefs of Arms and Services and the Divisions of the War
Department General Staff.

United States, I hereby designate Major General James H. Burns, of
the United States Army, as Executive Officer of the Division of Defense
Aid Reports in the Office for Emergency Management, to administer

the functions described in the Executive Order establishing said Division, which functions are essentially of a military character, under
the direction and supervision of the President as Commander in Chief
of the Army and Navy of the United States.
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT

The following letter from the Secretary of War is quoted for your
information and guidance:
1. The Act of March 11. 1941 (Lend-Lense Act) Imposes heavy responsibilities
on the War Department which must be met with promptness and dispatch if the
purposes of the Congress and the orders of the President are to be consummated
Strategic results affecting the defense of this country may depend upon the speed

THE WHITE HOUSE,
May 6. 1941

with which this Act Is administered in the Department. I therefore desire to

impress upon all concerned the necessity for prompt action in all matters relating

to the Act.

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2 Every effort has been made to set up the administration of this Act in the
Department so as to apply to the lend-lease program the normal procedure of
our procurement agencies. I am confident that our present organization. in
ereased by the augmentation of such personnel as may be necessary can fully
meet the additional responsibilities to be Imposed upon it. It appears necessary.
however, to set up In the Office of the Under Secretary of War a division to be
called the Defense Aid Division with duties as shown in Exhibit 1 herewith and
I have, accordingly, directed that such an organization be created This division
will be concerned mainly with the coordination and acceleration of all phases of
the lend-lease program within the Department. It is my desire that all papers
pertaining to the program be handled in the "immediate action" category.
3. Attached hereto as Exhibit 2 is an outline of the routine which will, in
general, be followed within the War Department The desired budgetary procedure is shown in Exhibit 3.
4. To deal with questions of substance which we can foresee will arise under
the Act. Defense Aid Committees, whose functions are set forth in Exhibit 4. will
be organized. No new committee has been set up for aircraft inasmuch as the
Joint Aircraft Committee, which has heretofore been in operation, is In a position to perform the functions prescribed for the Defense Aid Committees in
Exhibits 3 and 4 and, subject to the principles and procedure outlined in such
Exhibits, the War Department members of the Joint Aircraft Committee are
hereby empowered, in addition to the powers heretofore exercised by them on the
Joint Aircraft Committee to perform with the British, or other representatives
concerned, the functions of the Defense Aid Committees.

5. War Department agencies are authorized to issue necessary regulations not
inconsistent with the policies outlined herein. to administer their activities under

the Act.

6. Close contacts between the personnel of the War Department and the ac.
credited foreign representatives concerned with transactions under the Act shall
be sought and encouraged at all times
7. The organization herein provided for is solely designed to expedite. not
to complicate. the work of the existing procurement agencies. It is always sub, cet to change if in the light of experience it does not fulfill its function
(8) HENRY L. STIMSON.
Secretary of War.
By ORDER OF THE SECRETARY OF WAR:

J. A. ULIO.
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Brigadier General,
Acting The Adjutant General.
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HAN
OFFICE ORDER:

APRIL 8, 1941,

1. In order to coordinate the functioning of the War Department
in its relation to the Act of March 11, 1941 (Public 11, 77th Congress),
there
created
a division
in Aid
the Division.
office of the Under Secretary
of
Waristohereby
be known
as the
Defense

n. To maintain the office of record for all transactions of the War

Department under the Act of March 11, 1941.
O. To furnish such statistical unformation as may be required, in

collaboration
War.

with the Statistics Branch, Office Under Secretary of

2. The duties of the Defense Aid Division will be as follows:
a. To
maintain
liaison on matters relating to the Act of March 11,
1941,
with
the following:

To participate
in the functions of the Joint Advisory Board
onp.
American
Republics.

(1) Such agency or agencies as may be designated by the President
to administer the Act.
(2) Other government agencies.
(3) Foreign governments.

March 11, 1941, as may be prescribed by the Under Secretary of War.

(4) Arms and Services of the War Department and the War

Department General Staff.
b. To coordinate requests for aid from foreign governments with
interested agencies of the War Department.
c. To coordinate the procurement under appropriations provided

to implement the Act, in collaboration with the Production Branch
and the Purchase and Contracts Branch, Office of the Under Secretary

of War: G-4 Division War Department General Staff; and the Office
of Production Management.

d. To coordinate the distribution of the items to foreign govern-

ments, in collaboration with the G-4 Division, War Department
General Staff.

e. To coordinate the activities authorized in Section 3 (a) (3) of
the Act, in collaboration with the interested agencies of the War

Department.

f. To supply foreign governments with defense information pertaining to defense articles, in collaboration with the G-2 Division of
the War Department General Staff.
g. To report to the Administrator of Export Control the defense
articles and defense information released to foreign governments.
h To furnish information concerning the transactions of the War
Department to the agency designated by the President for the preparation of the quarterly report required by the Act of March 11, 1941.
i. To coordinate importation of arms, ammunition, and implements

of war.

j. To initiate requests for priorities for materials, equipment, and
machine tools for foreign orders for military equipment and supplies
through the Priorities Committee, Army and Navy Munitions Board,
and the Priorities Administrator, Office of Production Management.

k. To clear preliminary negotiation reports for procurement of
military equipment and supplies for foreign governments other than
beneficiaries of the Act of March 11, 1941.

1. To prepare staff action for the approval of the Secretary of War,
on all matters pertaining to the Act.
m. To clear items for export on the basis of military secrecy, in
collaboration with the G-2 Division of the War Department General

Staff.

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q. To discharge such additional duties pertaining to the Act of
3. To provide personnel for the Defense Aid Division, I hereby
transfer the commissioned and civilian personnel of the Army Section,
Clearance
Army and Navy Munitions Board, to the
Defense
Aid Committee,
Division.
(S) HENRY L. STIMSON,
Secretary of War.

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[EXHIBIT 3]

OUTLINE OF WAR DEPARTMENT PROCEDURE-LEND
LEASE ACT

OUTLINE OF BUDGETARY PROCEDURE UNDER LENDLEASE ACT

WAR DEPARTMENT ACTION
WAR DEPARTMENT

1. Requests for assistance received from foreign governments
whose defense is deemed vital to the defense of the United States
under the terms of the Act, to be referred to the Secretary of War.

Upon receipt of approved expenditure programs or requests for
services in the Defense Aid Division of the Office of the Under Secretary of War, they will be transmitted to the Budget Officer of the
War Department who will make application for allocations to the War
Department of the necessary funds for the approved purposes.
Upon receipt of such allocations, the Budget Officer of the War
Department will make apportionments to agencies within the War
Department in accordance with the approved expenditure programs
or requests for services, informing the Defense Aid Division of this

2. Referred to the Defense Aid Division, O. U. S. W., for

recommendation.

3. Defense Aid Division informally to consult G-4 and, if advisable, other interested War Department agencies and prepare recom-

mendation for signature of Chief of Staff. To obtain the basis for
recommendation, Defense Aid Division to route requests through the
appropriate Defense Aid Requirements Committee, calling for definite recommendations as to disposition of materiel or placement of

action.

The existing accounting methods within the War Department will
be utilized in accounting for Lend-Lease funds.
The preparation of expenditure programs and requests for services,

orders.

4. Reply of Chief of Staff forwarded to Secretary of War for
approval.

as

5. After approval, forwarded to White House.
(

WHITE HOUSE ACTION

well as the administration of any funds set up for administrative

expenses, will follow present procedure.
In case future appropriations are required for Lend-Lease purposes,
the normal estimating cycle will be completed.

6. President issues directive to Secretary of War.
WAR DEPARTMENT ACTION

7. Directive turned over to Defense Aid Division for preparation
of appropriate instructions to War Department agencies, and sub-

mittal to the Secretary of War, through Executive. O. U. S. W.
and G-4, for signature, with copy of original action by Chief of
Staff (paragraphs 4 and 5 above). Copies of directives will also
be furnished to B. O. W. D.
8. War Department agencies concerned in executing approved ac-

tion, including B. O. W. D., to maintain informal contacts with the
Defense Aid Division during process of execution and render report
to Defense Aid Division on completion.
9. Defense Aid Division to be office of record for Lend-Lease Act
transactions and to prepare such reports as the President and/or the
Secretary of War may prescribe.

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[EXHIBIT 4]

DEFENSE AID COMMITTEES
REQUIREMENTS COMMITTEES

There will be created within the War Department committees to

be known as the Defense Aid Requirements Committees.

The function of these Committees within the War Department will
be the determination under the Defense Aid program of materiel
requirements as to type, quantity and destination. In carrying out
this function, the Committees will follow such policies as may be
prescribed, from time to time, by the Chief of Staff, subject to such
redetermination, if any, as may later be made by the President
In performing their function, the Committees may be compelled to
plan for the diversion of materiel to uses not contemplated at the
time of the placing of the orders.
In dealing with this problem, the Committees may propose plans
for somewhat distant objectives. However, recommendations for
actual diversion should normally be made only sufficiently far in
advance to permit arrangements to be made for the effective use of
the diverted materiel at the completion of production.
The Committees will be organized for each of the following supply
arms and services, i. e.,

Ordnance
Chemical
Signal
Engineer
Quartermaster

In order to provide continuity and unity of direction to these

Committees, they will include a nucleus of personnel which will have
membership on all the Committees. This nucleus will be composed
of the following:
G-4 War Department, Chairman
Representative of the Under Secretary of War

Representative of the Clearance Committee of the Army and
Navy Munitions Board, and
Representative of the Foreign Supply Service (in case of the
British, the Chairman of the British Supply Council).

United States and foreign representatives of the arm or service

concerned and of the user of the items under consideration shall be
members of the respective Committees. In appropriate situations

the Training Division or War Plans Division of the War Department General Staff will be represented. The Committee decisions
will be signed by the senior representative of each concurring group.

Minority views, if any, will be submitted by the senior member of

any non-concurring group. These will be submitted to the Chief

of Staff to assist him to consult with the President under the provisions of the Lend-Lease Act.

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FACILITIES COMMITTEE

Under the Lend-Lease Act and pending War Department
priations, there is approximately $1,300,000,000 provided for appro- new

facilities and a committee consisting of six general officers has been
selected under the authority of the Under Secretary of War to

trol the facilities program. To consult with this Committee conappropriate representatives of the British Supply Council will be
appointed with opportunity to present their dissenting views, if any,

on matters relating to the necessity for and priority of additional
facilities being created, to the Under Secretary of War.

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FORM la CONTINUATION SHEET)

ROUTING

M FILLED IN
REQUISITIONER

REQUISITION FOR DEFENSE ARTICLES

MAR

FORM I

WAVY

(UNDER THE ACT OF MARCH 11, 1941

NO.

OPM

AGRICULTURE

MARITIME COMM.

REQUISITION FOR DEFENSE ARTICLES

DATE

(UNDER THE ACT OF MARCH 11, 1941)

AMERICAN

STATE
TREASURY

REQUISITIONER

1.

SECTION

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

WILL ORDERS PLACED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT FOR THE MATERIAL REQUISITIONES
HEREIN at COVERED ST. DIRECT CASH REIMBURSEMENT TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

2. ARTICLES (in POSSIBLE, USE CONTINUATION SHEET(S) FOR DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS: OTHERWISE ATTACH ONE COMPLETE SET OF DRAWINGS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO EACH COPY OF FORM):
A. QUANTITY AND DESCRIPTION (INCLUDE MARK. MODEL, OR OTHER IDENTIFYING DESIGNATION):

a. SPECIFICATIONS

c. Use
U.S., DRITISM, OTHER

ARMY. MAYT. AID COMMERCIAL

1. IF THE ARTICLES REOUISITIONED HEREIN ARE TO BE INSTALLED IN OR USED IN THE CONSTRUC-

TION OF SOME OTHER ARTICLE(S), NAME AND IDENTIFY THE BASIC ARTICLE(S), INDICATE
NUMBER OF REQUISITION (FORM OR 2) OR FNR NUMBER, OR BOTH, COVERING REQUEST FOR
BASIC ARTICLE(S), AND INDICATE CONTRACT NUMBER IF CONTRACT WAS BEEN NEGOTIATED FOR
BASIC ARTICLE(S).

A. NAME AND IDENTIFICATION OF BASIC ARTICLE(S):

0. CONTRACT No

c. PMR No.

a. REQUISITION No.

4. DELIVERY DESIRED (BY CHECK ()os, IF POSSIBLE, BY QUANTITATIVE BREAKDOWN)

1942

1941

160 QUANTER

140 QUANTER 586 QUARTER RE QUARTER

5. REMARKS (JUSTIFICATION OF REQUEST. URGENCY, GENERAL INFORMATION, ETC.):

(SIGNED)

(TITLE)

GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

DATE

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ROUTING

MAR

NAVY
OPM

AGRICUL TURE

MARITIME COMM.

--

Consulted

Pales MAS

(BOT TO
KC FILLED
REQUISITIONER
War

FORM 1b - AMERDMENT

Navy

REQUISITION FOR DEFENSE ARTICLES
(UNDER THE ACT OF MARCH 11, 1941

Recommendation on Regulation for
Defense Articles

OPM

Agriculture
DATE

Maritime

(Under the Act of March 11. 1941

State

STATE

Treasury

TREASURY

(Agency reporting)

Number of detail sheets attached

o

REQUISITIONER

DESCRIBE FULLY NATURE OF AMENDMENT DESIRED; STATE
SECTION

WHETHER INSTITUTION, ADDITION. CANCELLATION ETC.

1 It is recommended that the following goods and/or services listed on the requisition be supplied in the
quantity indicated below from the sources shown on the detail sheets attached:
Quantity

(SIGNED)

(TITLE)

GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Description

Estimated
Value

Detail

Sheet No

359

JUN 10 1941

Dear Mr. Curries

I have your letter of May 21. 1941. advising that you

have been endeavoring for some time to work up an aircraft
program for China under the Lend-Lease Act, and requesting

to be advised as to whether I thought 10 proper for the
United States to take ever under the Land-Lease Act a portion
of the old British contracts for China and to reimburse the
British for those contracts.

I - in sympathy with what you are trying to do and I
think we night very well take over a portion of the British
contracts for China if the British are willing to assign
them. I understand that the Vultee planee available under
British contract are in process of being turned over to
China.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
Henorable Lanchlin Carrie,

Ministrative Assistant to
the President,
The White House,
Washington, D. C.

ORIGINAL FORWARDED TO ADDRESSEE

FROM OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY

DWBice

6-10-41

oweHHW

By Messenger

530

360
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

May 21, 1941.

Dear Mr. Secretary:
For some time I have been endeavoring

to help work up an aircraft program for

China under Lease-Lend. The most promising

possibilities seem to lie in attempting to
induce the British to release some planes

from their program. I think their willing-

ness to do so would be increased if the
release could be from some of their old

commitments rather than from some of their

now programs under Lease-Lend.

Do you think it would be proper for us
under Lease-Lend to take over a portion of
these old contracts for China and to
reimburse the British for them?
Yours sincerely,

Duci

Lauchlin Currie
Administrative Assistant
to the President

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Y

WASHINGTON

June 10, 1941

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to the
Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses a memo-

randum for Treasury from Mr. Donald R. Heath, First Secretary
of the American Embassy, Berlin, dated May 27, 1941, regarding
German economic conditions and plans.

Enclosure:
Memorandum,

May 27, 1941.

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COPY

Air Mail Pouch

EMBASSY OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Berlin, May 27. 1941.

Strictly confidential
MEMORANDUM

for Treasury from Heath

From the entirely reliable but cautiously discreet contact mentioned in my
memorandum of May 13, 1941, I learn that Goring has ordered the preparation of
plans of autarchic continental economic organization and development, under
German domination, not only for war conditions but also for peace time. My
informant remarked ironically that this was a splendid example of German foresight. The plan contemplates abundant access to Russian agricultural products
and raw materials.
My informant asserted that he was more convinced than when he had last
talked to me (my memorandum of May 13) that at least as a purely economic
proposition Germany with supplies from North Africa and Russia could stand a

war and blockade of several years. He asserted that whatever the dissatisfaction
of France was with the occupation, the German authorities had been quite successful
in the absorption of unemployment, and that the French factories were working for
Germany. Whether Germany could continue to exert wise and effective political
domination of unoccupied Europe was another story, and of course the standard of
living at best would be a very low one under blockade conditions.
A less degree of optimism as regards Germany's ability to maintain bearable
economic conditions in a blockaded Europe was expressed by Vice President Pihh of
the Reichsbank in a recent conversation. Puhl spoke of Germany as able to maintain

the continent in a bearable economic condition for two or three years, but I
thought he gave an intimation of some doubt as to the effect of continued short
rations over such a period. In this conversation I remarked that the German
papers recently were crowing over the fact that Britain's military and civil
expenses were equal to 90 per cent of the whole national income, and stated that
my own rough calculation showed that German central and local government

expenditures, plus semi-governmental collections for labor dues, charity, social

insurance premiums, etc., amounted to about nine-tenths of Germany's estimated
national income (see my telegram No. 1907 of May 14, 7 p.m.) He thought this

was a little high but said, not for quotation, that it WAS something of this order.
(Signed) Donald R. Heath
Donald R. Heath

First Secretary of Embassy
DPE/hu

Approved (s) Leland Morris
Leland Morris

Charge d'Affaires a.i.

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM:

AMEMBASSY, BERLIN.

TO:

Secretary of State, Washington.

DATED:

June 10, 1941 - 9:40 p.m.

NO.:

2291.

It is announced in Berlin that an agreement reached
between the German and French Governments provides, among

other things, that exports from occupied to unoccupied
France with the exception of a few undisclosed categories
of goods and payments between the two areas in both

directions may not be made without a special permit. This
relaxation does not apply, however, to traffic in non-French
currency or gold.
Made public after the announcement of Vichy's stand

with respect to Syria, this concession by (*) indicates
apparently that the German Government is following the

policy of making progressive specific concessions as
Vichy shows, under the general collaboration agreement,

that it is living up to the obligations in actual practice.
MORRIS.

(*) Apparent omission.

eh:copy
6-17-41

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EH

GRAY

Berlin
Dated June 10, 1941

Rec'd 4:15 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2288, June 10, 3 p.m.
FOR TREASURY FROM HEATH.

Am leaving today for the States En route my new post

at Santiago, Chile. Expect to be in Washington around
the first WEEK of July.
MORRIS

WITH THE COMPLIMENTS
OF

HAROLD K. HOCHSCHILD

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Copy of Letter from A, Mexico City, June 10,1941

Things are not getting better here, in fact it seems that

the Cardenas faction in the Government is continuing to make
steady headway.

No change whatever has taken place and the crowd which
ran
the country during the last presidency is getting stronger
and stronger.
Lombardo Toledano, who appeared to be down and out six

months ago, is back in full force.
Strikes are getting more frequent and the red and black
flag which had somewhat disappeared on closed establishments
is to be seen again quite often.
Financially things are keeping on the same way. There
was some news in the papers, undoubtedly officially inspired,
that the Government had a superavit of twenty millions. Such
and similar news are only published when the contrary is the
case, therefore we can figure that & continuous overdraft is
going on heavily on the Bank.

It is generally believed, and I agree, that the action
Plant, and if followed up by similar actions, will have a very
strong and healthy effect on the situation here.

of the United States in taking over the North American Aviation

DAYES Signature FAET Et tidn

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June 10, 1941

Mr. Foley
Secretary Morgenthau

In connection with my testimony before Senator
Glass, I have just received a memo from Merle Coohran
which gives me the impression that our $50, 000,000

Stabilisation Loan to the Argentine is definitely off

because they have not given us an extension notice
prior to June 30th. Please consult Merle Coohran and

let me know about it because if it is off, I would like
to know before I testify up on the Hill.
I also want to know how much, if any, money
China has drawn on us for.

See memo from Mr.
Foley fited in diary
under

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 10, 1941.

Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

E. H. Foley, Jr.

The Argentine stabilization arrangement provides

for Argentina giving us thirty days'notice of a request
for an extension. Since this notice requirement is for
our convenience we, of course, can waive it.

I understand that the Argentine Ambassador told

Dan Bell that it would be embarrassing to Argentina to
have to give us this notice at this time but they were
doing everything possible to have the legislation

guaranteeing the arrangement approved in Argentina before

June 30. It is my information that Dan Bell told the

Ambassador that under the circumstances we would waive

the notice requirement. I agree with this action.

While the Chinese stabilization arrangement has
been signed, sealed, and delivered, China has not drawn
any funds under it. China has, however, requested us

for an extension of this stabilization arrangement for

one year beyond June 30, 1941, and we have replied saying

that we are deferring action on their request until the

passage of the legislation now pending before the Senate
Banking and Currency Committee. You will recall that

under the old stabilization arrangement, collateralized
by gold, we own a little over $19 millions of Chinese

yuan.

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2.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

June 10, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau

H. D. White

Subject: A Program to Utilize Effectively the Available Labor
Supply

A. Defense Training

1. Complex Organization -- The present organization of
defense training is extremely complicated. There are at
least six agencies participating in administration, and
there 18 great dispersion of authority and responsibility.
OPM, Hillman

Final authority resides here. Under Mr. Hillman, a
number of officials, notably Mr. Reeves, are attempting
to coordinate the whole program. In addition, this
office administers one of the programs.

Federal Security Agency, McSherry

Four of the operating organizations are in this agency.
Recently McSherry has been set up to coordinate at this
level.

Operating Programs, Office of Education, N.Y.A., C.C.C.
W.P.A., and U.S.E.S.

The NYA and the Office of Education have been designated

to administer certain defense training programs. The

NYA 18 recommended to receive $60 million for this
purpose and the Office of Education about $95 million.
To some extent the two agencies are competitive.

In addition the CCC as a regular agency overlaps the
NYA. Furthermore, some of the "regular" projects of
the NYA appear to overlap the "defense" projects of the
NYA.

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Research

The WPA ($875 millions now recommended for fiscal

1942) is carrying out a number of defense projects.
The amount of defense training being received by

WPA personnel is small, only 34,000 now being enrolled.

The U.S.E.S. furnishes data about the skills in the

unemployed population. This organization is becoming
important to the defense training and labor supply
program. The U.S.E.S. is under the Social Security
Board but the operating organization of employment

offices is administered by 48 different States.

2. Overlapping -- It is natural that the administrative
set-up briefly sketched above should result in considerable confusion, bureaucratic conflict and reduced
efficiency of operation.
Leadership

Although the O.P.M. is ultimately responsible for
defense training, a great deal of leadership, often
at cross purposes, appears to be exercised by the
Federal Security Agency, the N.Y.A. and the Office
of Education.

Budgetary Control and Administration
The N.Y.A. and the C.C.C. offer alternative programs

for youth and split the money available for youth
training between them. Likewise the N.Y.A. organized
on the basis of production projects and the Office
of Education interested in utilizing the school
system for defense training are in conflict.
In addition to these programs, a section of the
O.P.M. runs a "within-industry" training program.
The determination of whom to train and what to
train for is now being made by several heads rather
than one head.

Overlapping in the Field
The N.Y.A., the C.C.C., and the U.S.E.S. have local

offices and local officials. So has the W.P.A. The
Office of Education, though it has no local offices,
works through the local school systems and advisory

groups of local citizens.

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Research

One or two examples will serve to show the inefficiency
which is resulting. At Greensboro, North Carolina, the
W.P.A. is offering classes sponsored by the Office of
Education in welding, machine operations, and sheet-

metal work, using the local high school shops. The
in which to give these classes and at the present time
it is using old buildings to give training in machine
work, in welding, and in sheet-metal work. The W.P.A.
officials there did not know what was being done by
the local N.Y.A. Nor did the N.Y.A. officials know
what the W.P.A. was doing. Both officials explained
that the welding classes were designed to provide
welders for the Norfolk Navy Yard. However, in

N.Y.A. is simultaneously constructing a modern shop

Norfolk officials in charge of vocational classes

stated that they were not giving any welding courses
because the Navy preferred to train its own welders.
Similarly at Cumberland, Maryland, an N.Y.A. shop
superintendent did not know whether or not W.P.A.
was giving shop courses, or again in Harrisburg,

Pennsylvania, the State office of the N.Y.A. was
ignorant of what, if anything, the W.P.A. was doing
in or near Harrisburg or elsewhere in the State.

Finally, none of these agencies seemed to know what

was being done to train workers in industry for the
same jobs that they were aiming toward.

3. Recommendations

a. There should be a single defense training program.
The job merits the creation of a separate Office

of Labor Training and Supply. It is essential to fix
clear responsibility for labor training as well as for
other problems of labor supply.

This central office should have control of the

budgets for defense training. If it finds it
expedient to utilize existing organizations, it
should have the power to recommend the size of

the funds to be used for this purpose; to divert

those funds where this is necessary; and to determine

the type of training to be given, the places where
it should be given, and the persons to whom it is

given. In the field, it should coordinate the
various agencies which are doing training.

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Research

b. One youth organization.

It would simplify the problems of defense training
if there were a single youth organization. This unification would have beneficial effects upon the regular

or normal youth program of the Government. The normal
defense work of the youth organization would work, not

be subject to, the Office of Labor Training and Supply.
This office should, however, be in a position to
determine the volume and the character of the defense
training which is to be given the youth.
B. Waste of Labor Supply
Amount of waste -- Judging by World War standards, the

United States is wasting the labor of about 12 million

persons. Seven million of these are the unemployed
and the other 5 million are those persons who would

work if jobs were available.

Apparently there are no plans in O.P.M. or in the Army
or in the Navy to utilize this man-power within the

near future. O.P.M.'s estimate of additional re-

employment for the coming year is 3 millionpersons.
The armed forces will absorb another million persons.
Meanwhile the labor supply will be increased by
600,000 persons. Therefore, the net inroad into

our unused labor supply will be only 3 millions.

The program of labor training even if reorganized is
bound to be ill-directed and wasteful so long as there

are no defense production schedules which show what kind

of labor will be needed. Only on the basis of such
schedules of labor requirements can an efficient

forecast of shortages be made and a program of labor

training devised.

Recommendations

The O.P.M. or some other organization should be charged

with the duty of drawing up a definite program large
enough to absorb within the coming year several million
more persons than will the present program.

As part of this program of expanded defense production,
the Federal Works Agency should be given funds for a
wide variety of defense construction projects.

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Research

Defense housing, construction of defense plants, the
provision of utilities in the new boom towns, military
roads and air ports appear to be examples where a
large volume of this wasted man-power could be
employed at useful defense work if there were more
imagination and drive at the center of the defense
program.

Defense construction work ought to be paid for at

standard rates and it ought to utilize the best
available methods of production. If these oriteria
are accepted it is of doubtful wisdom to convert the
W.P.A. into a defense organization. If O.P.M. were
doing its job, there should be no W.P.A. In the

interim period the W.P.A. should probably be left to
contract as is now being recommended and other organizations not as handicapped as W.P.A. should be utilized
to increase the volume of our defense effort.

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June 10, 1941

The Secretary called Grace Tully today and said:
"When you see the President I wish you would give

him this message. We have the position in the Treasury that
Congress created of Fiscal Assistant Secretary. It is a
permanent position and was created for Dan Bell. He is
very anxious to go into that position and give up being
Under Secretary. He does not like being Under Secretary
because the responsibility is too great. I have been looking around for an Under Secretary, and I wonder how the

President would feel about Jim Landis if I could get him.

I have not talked to him yet. I would like the President's
advice. If you get a chance to talk to him about it today,
I would appreciate it. Bell has been after me so much now
that I want to get somebody."
The Secretary had lunch with Felix Frankfurter, and

asked him what he thought about Jim Landis as Under

Secretary, and he said that as to his legal mind, he knew
of no one better, but as to his public relations, he was

not so good. The Secretary then asked him what he thought

of Lloyd Garrison, and Justice Frankfurter thought that he

would make a perfect Under Secretary.

HM Jr telephoned Grace Tully again. She had not
yet given the President the message in regard to Landis,
so the Secretary asked her to substitute the name of Lloyd
Garrison for Jim Landis.

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June 10, 1941

My dear Sir Arthur:
Thank you very much for your

letter of June 3rd giving me the
shipping statement for June.

Whenever it is convenient, I

should like to have you drop in to
see me.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Sir Arthur Salter,

British Supply Council

in North America,
Box 680, Benjamin Franklin Station,
Washington, D. C.

By Messenger

Round June 4.1941 375
THE BRITISH SUPPLY COUNCIL IN NORTH AMERICA
Box 680
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN STATION

TELEPHONE: REPUBLIC 7860

WASHINGTON D. c.

fasma 2
June 3, 1941

Dear Mr. Morgenthau,

When sending you, with my letter of April 26,
a statement giving particulars of our deficiency in
ships for May loading of our priority programme from
North America, I promised to send you similar statements for subsequent months, and I now enclose the
corresponding statement for our June loading.
You will see that the nominal deficiency shown
is of 31 ships as compared with 61 for May. This does
not, however, represent an improvement but only the
fact that the programme has been further cut down in

view of the obvious impossibility of lifting at the rate
previously hoped for. Indeed, the actual number of
ships at our disposal at the date of the return is 23

less than in May.
Our need for the 31 ships is, therefore, much
greater than for the 61 in May. The Maritime Commission
is working hard to provide as many as possible of them.

I have full information in the office as to the
details of the programme, which is, of course, at your
disposal if you should wish to see it.
Yours sincerely,

Arthur Salter
Honourable Henry L. Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington.

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UNITED KINGDOM

Comparative Statement Showing Deficiency of Ships for
Priority Programme, North America
Ships
June

May

Required

196

249

Allocated

165

188

31

61

10

13

11

22

*Deficiency

* Deficiency in U.S.A. for

General Cargo
70,000 tons

Deficiency in U.S.A. for
Steel
79,000 tons

Deficiency for Grain

U.S.A. & Canada
15,000 tons

2

10

Deficiency for General

Cargo in Canada
60,000 tons

8

Total

N.B.: 1 Ship - 7,000 tons cargo

31

16

61

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June 10, 1941

My dear Sir Arthur:
Thank you very much for your

letter of June 3rd giving me the
shipping statement for June.

Whenever it is convenient, I

should like to have you drop in to
see me.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) W. Morgenthan, Jr.

Sir Arthur Salter,

British Supply Council
in North America,

Box 680, Benjamin Franklin Station,
Washington, D. C.

FILE TO NMC

By Messender

378

June 10, 1941

My dear Sir Arthur:
Thank you very much for your

letter of June 3rd giving me the
shipping statement for June.

Whenever it is convenient, I

should like to have you drop in to
see me.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) F. Morgenthau, Jr.

Sir Arthur Salter,

British Supply Council
in North America,
Box 680, Benjamin Franklin Station,
Washington, D. C.

FILE TO NMC

By Messenger

379

Confidential
June 10, 1941.

MEMORANDUM

TO: Secretary Morgenthau

FROM: Mr. Gaston

As to protection of the President:
(1) Although the President rejected some months ago

a plan for invisible ray protection of the White House

grounds, plans are being made and estimates being obtained
from A.D.T. for such a system at Hyde Park; rough estimate
$15,000.

(2) Two agents will return this week from New York
where they have been taking special training on suspected
packages with the bomb squad of the New York police. Two
packages were recently conveyed to a field outside the city
for opening. The sound of ticking was heard in one, which
proved to be an expensive fishing reel, with watch attached.
The other was a package of phonograph records of speeches

by Winston Churchill, sent by Churchill to Harry Hopkins
without advance notice. The Chief is consulting the Bureau
of Standards regarding a strong steel trailer for conveying
suspected packages through the city.

(3) Through the New York police a tip has been received that American Peace Mobilization is trying to get
American Legion veterans to join the picket line at the White
House. Officers assigned by Army, Marine Corps and Navy are
constantly on duty at the White House to deal with enlisted

men who endeavor to muss up the pickets.

(4) The number of crank visitors is increasing. They

now average about one a day.

(5) The Chief has a nephew, Carroll L Wilson, a gradu-

ate of M.I.T. , who is attached to the National Defense Research Organization under Dr. Vannevar Bush. He recently
returned from London and reports that a new radio-active

380

-2compound of high power has been developed and might become

a menace in the hands of a foreign agent. His organization
is working on a sensitive device for detecting radio-activity
and when this has been properly perfected it can be used for
periodic inspection of rooms used by the President.

(6) Elmer Hipsley, the athletic trainer and jiu jitsu

expert, who was taken over from the Metropolitan Police force
in January, 1939, by your orders after the gate crashing incident at the New Year's reception, is starting a new course

of first aid training of the White House Police. He has just

finished giving the same course to one hundred Bureau of
Engraving Uniformed Guards. He has done similar work for
the Red Cross.

Net

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This letter was not sent to the
Budget Bureau as the Executive Order,
issued on Saturday, June 14th, had

incorporated in it the "reporting,

etc. phases.

382

Illas of 6-10-41
pee 6/5 ack of

Budgets thinglt
Dear Sirs

Further reference is made to your letter of June 4,
1941, relative to a proposed Executive Order, entitled
"Authorising the Attorney General to investigate and require
reports as to transactions and property involving foreign
interests".
This Department is giving the matter careful considaration. However, the purpose of the Executive Order
and the fields in which the powers conferred are intended

to be exercised are not entirely clear from the text of

such Order OF from the accompanying letter of the Attorney
General. Among other things, Executive Order No. 8389

of April 10, 1940, as amended, vests the Secretary of the

Treasury wi 1th many of the powers referred to in the proposed
Executive Order and there is at least an apparent overlapping

of functions between the two Orders. This Department, in
considering the various aspects of the proposed Order, will
appreciate being advised as to the purposes of the Order
and the scope of its anticipated use.
Very truly yours,

Secretary of the Treasury.

F. J. Bailey, Esq.,
Assistant Director,

Bureau of the Budget,

Executive Office of the President,

Washington, D. C.
6/10/41

*A23

MEMORANDUM
FROM

British Supply Council in North America

TO

Mrs. Henrietta Klotz

COMPLIMENTS OF E.N. GRAY

K

383

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STATEMENT NO. 18
AIRCRAFT SHIPPED TO U. K. AND OVERSEAS COMMANDS

By Sea
DESTINATION

E

ASSEMBLY POINT

During Week
ending
May 17, 1941

By Air

During week
ending

May 8. 1941

SOLIDATED

atalina

iberator

U. K.
U. K.

U. K.
(via Gander)

-

7

-

2

-

1

U. K.

(via Gander)

KHEED

udson III U. K.

U. K.

(via Sander)

udson III

U. K.

U. K.

udson V

U. K.

U. K.

udson V

U. K.

U. K.

8

hesapeake U. K.

U. K.

4

(via Gander)

10

-

-

2

-

TED
-

GLAS

oston III

U. K.

TALS
tish Air Commission,

e 10, 1941

U. K.

12

34

-

12

385
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
Miss

TO

DATE June 10, 1941
Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£63,000
Purchased from commercial concerns £ 3,000

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York sold £10,000 in registered sterling
to the American Express Company.

Open market sterling was again quoted at 4.03-1/2. Transactions of the
reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£3,000
Purchased from commercial concerns £4,000

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below

were as follows:

Canadian dollar
Swiss franc
Swedish krona
Reichsmark
Lira

Argentine peso (free)

Brazilian milreis (free)

Mexican peso
Cuban peso

11-7/8% discount
.2321
.2385
.4005

.0526-1/4
.2365
.0505
.2070

1-3/16% discount

In Shanghai, the yuan was quoted at 5-3/84, up 1/324. Sterling advanced

2$ to 3.92.

There were no purchases or sales of gold effected by us with foreign
countries today.

The Treasury issued a license under the Gold Reserve Act permitting the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York to effect the following transfer of gold in
its vaults:
$4,502,000 from the Bank of Finland's account to the account of the Bank
of Sweden.

386

-2There were no gold engagements reported to us today.

In London, a price of 23-3/8d was again fixed for both spot and forward

silver, equivalent to 42.44

The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35$. Handy
and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 34-3/44.
We made one purchase of silver amounting to 50,000 ounces under the Silver

Purchase Act. This consisted of new production from various foreign countries,
and was bought for forward delivery.
The report of June 4 received from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

giving foreign exchange positions of banks and bankers in its district, revealed
that the total position of all countries was short the equivalent of $7,149,000,

a decrease of $376,000 in the short position since May 28. Net changes were as
follows:

Short Position
Country

May 28

$1,165,000
3,236,000
419,000 (Long)

England**
Europe
Canada

Latin America

543,000

1,372,000
1,669,000
41,000 (Long)

Japan

Other Asia

All others
Total

$7,525,000

Short Position
June 4

$ 729,000
3,250,000
199,000 (Long)
552,000
983,000

1,862,000
28,000 (Long)
$7,149,000

Change in

Short Position*

- $436,000

+ 14,000

+ 220,000

+ 9,000
- 389,000
+ 193,000

+ 13,000
- $376,000

*Plus sign (+) indicates increase in short position, or decrease in long position.
Minus sign(-) indicates decrease in short position, or increase in long position.

gm.

**Combined position in registered and open market sterling.

CONFIDENTIAL

387
BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

PERSONAL AND
SECRET.

June 10th, 1947

There
Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy

of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halifax
The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

388

Telegram from London dated June 8th, 1941.

British submarines at 0825/3 torpedoed
and sank laden 1,000 ten merchant ship in

1.

Lampedues harbour.
2.

West-bound channel convoy repeatedly

attacked by enemy aircraft from 0001 to 0340/7
straits of Dover and to Westward. Enemy coastal

batteries fired 19 rounds. 1 balloon vessel

slightly damaged. No other damage, no casualties.

2 enomy aircraft shot down.
3.

Night 6/7 enemy aircraft raided Loch Ewe.

1 ship damaged by 2 near misses.

Night 7/8 11 coastal aircraft despatched
to attack shipping at Bergen and 37 bomber aircraft
attacked Prins Eugen at Bresit weather clear but
smoke screen was put up over warships. 24

4.

2,000 pound bombs dropped amongst others.

5.

On morning of 8th Free French and British

troops entered Syria. Light naval forces are

working in cooperation with army.
6.

Abyssinia.

Enemy apparently beginning

withdrawal Lechenti area. Our troops Abalti area
attacked taking 100 prisoners. 300 prisoners have

repulsed 2 enemy attacks June 5th and counter-

been captured by southern column. 19,000 prisoners
have been taken in southern Abyssinia since May 20th
of which 5,000 were Italian - remnants of the 24th

Italian division, previously lost, now located west

of Soddu in hills where they are being harressed by
Patriots.

389
BRITISH EMBASSY,

PERSONAL AND
SECRET.

WASHINGTON, D.C.

June 10th, 1941

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy of
the latest report received from London

on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Have Buther

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr. ,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

390

Telegram from London dated June 9th.

Two cruisers and four destroyers supporting left
flank of Army in syste. Rough sea prevented a landing from
other shipe being made at mouth of Nehr Litany River north
of Tyre. Reports received, apparently we have occupied

1.

Date Merdjayeum and Naqurre. Tyre surrendered 1700/8th.
2.
German aircraft made two heavy attacks on Alexandria

night of 7th/8th Military damage slight, civilian population
appeared main objective.

British submarine reported a.m./8th that she had
Lorpedoed French 3,300 ton tanker off Dardanelles. Tanker

3.

routed Naplee to Constantes via Messina Corinth Canal Doro

Channel.

Night of 7th/8th coastal aircraft attack on Bergen
started several fires in docks and one hit claimed on small

4.

ship entering harbour.
5.
Last night Royal Air Force carried out medium weight
attack on Dortmund. Weather prevented other operations and

enemy activity United Kingdom still very slight.

6.

Iraq. Night of 7th/8th small mobile column moved

from Mosul to Tel Kotchek about 75 miles to the North West on
the Syrian border. Our troops found no sign of German
activity and received friendly welcome from inhabitants; they
returned to Mosul.
Estimated enemy forces remaining in
Abyssinia.
7.
Southern Abyosinia 10,000 Italians 15,000 natives. Gondar

area - 15,000 Italians and natives. In this area ground

action is being taken against Tabor which has been cut off
for several weeks. Elsewhere numbers negligible.

Roumania. Roumanian mobilization almost complete.
Army strength probably 20 divisions.
H.M.S. London reports that German 10,000 ton tanker
9.
was sunk D.m./4th about 1000 miles from West Freetown and a
second German 10,000 ton tanker was sunk in position few
8.

miles distant a.m./5th. Prisoners 28 officers 152 ratings
of whom 7 officers 106 ratings were naval. Former left St.
Nasaire May 20th latter left St. Nazaire April 20th.

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RESTRICTED

G-2/2657-220; No. 413 H.I.D., W.D.

12:00 11.,

June 10, 1941

SITUATION REPORT

I. Western Theater.

Air: Extremely limited activity on both sides, with some
attacks on British and Axis shipping.
II. Mediterranean and African Theaters.

Ground: Libya. At Tobruk, German artillery fired on
British battery positions, and Italian artillery shelled steaners
entering the harbor.

East Africa. British forces in southwest
Ethiopia have continued their advance west of the Omo River,
capturing additional prisoners and some trucks. The British

claim the destruction of four Italian divisions in this area.

Air: Normal Axis raid on Tobruk and Halta and British raids
on Benghazi and Tripoli.

III. Syria. Invasion continues to progress but not particularly

rapidly. No indication of serious fighting and none of defections
from Vichy forces.

RESTRICTED

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392

Haraphress of Code Oablegrea

Received at the Mar Department
as 99:mg, June 10, 1941.

filed 14:45, Jane 10, 1941.

1. British Air Activity over the Continent.

g. Der of June 9. Sterling bombers operated against shipping off the Belgium and Dutch coast. Two of those bembers
were attached by six Messerechmitte ME 109's. Thirteen fighters performed
defensive missions over east Kent.
Thirty-seven Whitley bombors operated

2.

ever Dertional and Bakr.

2. Germa Air Activity Over Britain.
&

Night of June 9-10. The Germane operated on a small seals

in the visinity of the southwest coast of England and the northeastern
coast of Sections.

.
e.

Day of Jane 9. There were few raids over Kent and Dorect.

Eight of Jane 8. It is now established that the Germans

used twenty-five long range bombers and five mine-laying aircraft.

4. of Jane 8. The Germane employed tea
please and ten long range bombers in the operations of this day.
3.

Aircraft Lesses, British Theater.

a. There were no British lesses reported.
. of the six Messerschmitte ME 109's which attacked the two
Sterlings on the day of June 9, one was shot down and two damaged. On
the same day three Messerschmitts ME 109's were shot down and three damaged

during the defensive patrols over East Kent.
INFORMATION COFF

CONFIDENTIAL

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393

4.

Invoice State During the night of Jane B-T please

from the Reyel Air Force make - attention - I I and
Dangbast.

E

Distributions

Secretary of War
State Department

of Treasing

Union
of War
of
Assistant
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Shaff,
Year Please Division

office of Naval Intelligmie

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CONFIDENTIAL

394

CONFIDENTIAL
Paraphanase of Gods Cablegree

Received at the Mar Department
at 09:16, June 10, 1941.

Gaire, filed 14:40, June 8, 1941.

1. The fall of Bashid All has ingroved British prestige
impossurably and, on the other hand, has had a reverse effect on prestige. German agitation will hereafter, as heretofere, encourage the
freelen of the Arab nations, anti-Semitism and a pan-Arabic union. The

posification of Trug is a a phase and it is not impossible that the
revels has not yet been terminated.

2. The uprising had the support of the people, the revolting
forces were not crashed, the posification has resulted in no asses to
any existing problem. There still exist influences which were at work
and which have not been brought to light, and in fact even the actual

events are not clearly visible. However, the basic origin of the trouble
is Jewish colomisation of Palestine, and this was the subject which Mr.
Mon, in his negotiations with the Regent and others, evaded.

3. The Regent, Abdal Illah, saw his opportunity in Bashid ALL's
aborrosment and he demanded from Mr. Men a statement on the government's

intentions towards the Araba. In Mr. Mon's reply he made no detailed
premises, but he spoke in favor of Arabie unity and freedom for Imag.
This was the program for which Bashid All was fighting and 18 gave the

Regent's followers a platform upon which to stand. The Regent's advisors
had placed Mr. Mom's government in a position where it had been forced to
make a statement.

CONFIDENTIAL

INFORMATION COPY

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395

4. In addition, upon the Regent's regaining his place, no
relinguishment of Rachid ALL'S popular program had to be make. The

latter, having lost a large mossure of his following, being Regeived
of the financial moma for prolenging the straggle sai having had his
platform stelen from under his feet, took shelter in Persia.

Distribution
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury

Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2

War Plans Division

Office of Naval Intelligence
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