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OFFICE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY
For Release PM Papers
Saturday, May 24, 1941

PM 443

A schedule fixing ceiling prices for various grades of combed cotton yarn
was issued today by Leon Henderson, Administrator, Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply.

Combed cotton yarn is used primarily in the manufacture of textiles, underwear, hosiery and other apparel requiring a high grade of yarn. The ceilings

established for this product are expected to be reflected in the prices not
only for other cotton textiles, but also for finished products.
Ceilings fixed in the schedule are about 20% below those being quoted

recently in the industry. The ceiling price for 30s single ply, the largest
volume grade, is 42 cents, which includes an allowance for recent increases

in raw material costs. This compares with recent quotations of 52 cents.

Ceiling prices for other grades are keyed to the price for 30s single ply,
and bear the same relation as normally exists in the trade for the various
grades.

The price ceilings apply to all deliveries under old contracts after
Monday. May 26, the effective date of the schedule, as well as to new contracts.

There are no geographical differentials. However, sales of special qualities
of yarn may be made at premiums sufficient to cover higher raw material and
manufacturing costs.

In issuing the schedule Mr. Henderson stated that a cost study would be
undertaken promptly to determine whether the schedule works such hardship on

marginal firms as to threaten a curtailment of production. The ceiling prices,
while considerably lower than the inflated level reached in recent weeks, are

still well above averages for recent years. During 1938 and the first half of
1939 the price for 30s single ply fluctuated around 30 cents. At the outbreak
of the war the price rose to a high of approximately 36 cents and then declined

gradually to a low of about 31 cents in mid-1940. In the last quarter of 1940
prices moved up sharply to around 37 cents where they held steady through

January of this year. Since then the price has moved up steadily to the recent
level of 52 cents.

"The ceiling prices established take full account of raw material and
manufacturing costs at the present time," Mr. Henderson said. The mill margin
or spread between cotton costs and yarn prices in recent weeks has been the
highest for many years.

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TITLE 32 - NATIONAL DEFENSE
CHAPTER XI - OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION
AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY

Part 1307 - Raw Materials for Cotton Textiles
PRICE SCHEDULE NO. 7 - Combed Cotton Yarns

Stable operation of the cotton textile industry is
essential to the production of commodities necessary for
the defense of the nation and to the uninterrupted flow
of goods to civilian consumers. An inflationary movement
in the price of any basic material used in the manufacture

of cotton textiles and related products raises costs of
production for the entire industry. This necessarily

jeopardises the legitimate opportunities for profit of
manufacturers in the field, makes it difficult and in
some cases impossible for the trade to cooperate with

the government in maintaining price stability, and increases the prices which the public must pay for many
basic necessities.
Recent months have seen a rapid advance in the

price of combed yarns, which constitute an important

raw material used in the manufacture of cotton textiles,
garments, and other products. The increases which have

taken place far exceed the current rise in manufacturing
costs. Present price levels of combed yarns are, therefore,

inflationary in character; they are the result of, and
unless subjected to control, will lead to further,
speculative activity and withholding of yarn from the
market.

Accordingly, pursuent to and under the authority
vested in me by Executive Order No. 8734, and after
consultation with the Price Administration Committee,

it is hereby directed that:
This Price Schedule is published in 6 Federal Register, No. 102 (May 24, 1941).
The title, chapter, part, and section numbers appearing herein are used for purposes of conformity with regulations prescribed by the Administrative Committee
of the Federal Register.

§ 1307.1 Maximum prices established for combed yarn.

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(a) On and after May 26, 1941, regardless of any
existing commitment, no person shall for commercial use

sell or deliver or offer to sell or to deliver any combed
yarn, and no person shall for commercial use buy or accept

delivery of or offer to buy or to accept delivery of any
combed yarnat a price exceeding the Maximum price set

forth in Appendix A, incorporated herein as Section 1307.7.

(b) The prices established by this Schedule are
prices for combed yarns delivered to the purchaser's
customary receiving point, except that an extra charge
may be made to the extent that the cost of transportation
exceeds one cent per pound. The prices are gross prices

before discounts of any nature and including all commissions.*
§ 1307.2 Records. Every person who during any calendar
month shall sell 500 pounds or more of combed yarn shall

keep for inspection by the Office of Price Administration
and Civilian Supply, and preserve for a period of not less
than one year, a complete and accurate record of every
sale of combed yarn made during such month and thereafter,
the person to whom such sale was made, the date thereof,

the price paid, and the quantity and specifications of
the yarn sold,*

§ 1307.3 Reports. On or before July 7, 1941, and on
the seventh day of each calendar month thereafter, every
person who during the preceding calendar month has made
sales for commercial use of combed yarna aggregating 500

pounds or more shall submit to the Office of Price
Administration and Civilian Supply a report, on

§§ 1307.1 to 1307.8, inclusive, issued pursuant to the
authority contained in Executive Order 8734.

Report Form 107:1 (set forth in Appendix B, which is
incorporated herein as Section 1307.8), in which he shall
make a awarn statement that during the preceding calendar

month all such sales, whether for immediate or future

delivery, were made at prices in conformity with this
Schedule or with an exception or modification thereof.
Copies of Form 107:1 can be procured from the Office of

Price Administration and Civilian Supply, or, provided
that no change is made in the style and content of the

form and that it is reproduced on 8 x 10-inch paper,
they may be prepared by persons required to submit
reports hereunder.*

§ 1307.4 Enforcement, In the event of refusal or

failure to abide by the price limitations, report requirements, and other provisions contained in this Schedule, or

in the event of any evasion or attempt to evade the price
limitations or other provisions contained in this Schedule,
the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply
will make every effort to assure (1) that the Congress

and the public are fully informed of any failure to
abide by the provisions of this Schedule, and (ii) that the
powers of the Government are fully exerted in order to

protect the public interest and the interests of those
persons who conform with this Schedule in the observance of
the maximum prices herein set forth. Persons who have

evidence of the demand or receipt of prices above the

limitations set forth, or any evasion of or effort to
evade such prices, or of speculation, or of the hoarding
or accumulation of unnecessary inventories thereof, are
urged to communicate with the Office of Price Administration
and Civilian Supply.*

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§ 1307.5 Modification of the Price Schedule, Persons complain-

ing of hardship or inequity in the operation of this Schedule
(whether arising from action taken in reliance on a commitment of

sale at prices in excess of those herein established, or from
any other cause) may apply to the Office of Price Administration
and Civilian Supply for approval of any modification thereof
or exception thereto.*

§ 1307.6 Definitions.
(a) The term "combed yarns" means standard commercial

quality combed cotton yarns of the specifications for which
maximum prices are set by this Schedule.

(b) The term "person" includes an individual, corporation,
association, partnership, or other business entity.
(c) The term "for commercial use" means for any use or

purpose except use by an individual buyer at retail for home or
private consumption.*

§ 1307.7 Appendiz A.

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Prices per Pound for Combed Peeler Yarns **

Single

2-Ply

10s

$ .32

$ .38

12s

.33

.39

14a

.34

.40

16s

.35

.41

18s

.36

.42

20s

.37

.43

24s

.39

.45

26a

.40

.46

30s

.42

.48

36s

.45

.52

38s

.46

.53

40s

.47

.54

50s

.55

.62

60s

.64

.71

70s

.74

.81

80s

.84

.91

90s

.94

1.03

100s

1.14

1.23

110s

1.43

120s

1.63°

**/This Schedule applies only to combed cotton
yarns of ordinary commercial quality. For yarns
with excess twist, three or more ply, high break,
or requiring the use of extra length American
cotton, Pima cotton, Egyptian cotton. or Sea
Island cotton, a premium over the above prices
may be charged to cover the additional cost involved in manufacturing these special qualities.

§ 1307.8 Appendix B,

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Form No. 107:1
OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION AND

CIVILIAN SUPPLY, WASHINGTON, D. C.

Report Form for Sellers of Combed Cotton Yarns

For the purpose of making a report as required
by Section 3 of Price Schedule No. 7 of the Office

of Price Administration and Civilian Supply, I
have examined the sales records for the month of
1941 of

(name of seller)

.

of which concern I am

. During

that period the above-named concern has made no

sales for immediate or future delivery or deliveries for commercial use of combed cotton yarns at

prices in excess of those established by the afore2

said Price Schedule No. 7.
Subscribed and sworn to
before me this
day of

(Signature)

(Notary Public)
My Commission expires

This report must be signed by the seller or by a

partner or officer of the seller.

2/In the event that any sales or deliveries have
been made at prices in excess of those estab-

lished by the Schedule, the text of the above report should be suitably changed and a list should
be appended hereto giving with respect to each
sale or delivery the name of the purchaser, the

date of sale, the delivery date, the quantity and
the reasons for exceeding the maximum price.

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Issued this 23rd day of May, 1941.

/s/ Leon Henderson

Administrator

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OFFICE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY
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For AM release
Monday, June 2, 1941

Price Schedule No. 8 fixing ceiling prices for a wide variety of scrap and
secondary materials containing nickel was issued yesterday by Leon Henderson, Ad-

ministrator, Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply.
The schedule becomes effective today, Monday, June 2. It covers pure nickel

scrap, ferro-nickel-chrome-iron scrap, ferro-nickel-iron scrap, monel metal scrap,

cupro-nidel alloy scrap, stainless steel scrap, nickel steel scrap, secondary
monel metal ingot, secondary monel metal shot, and secondary copper-nickel shot.

The schedule also fixes maximum prices for the straight chrome type of stainless

steel scrap, which contains no nickel. Recent prices received for this type of
stainless steel scrap have been out of line and it was felt advisable to include
it in the price schedule, together with the other types of stainless steel scrap.
Mr. Henderson explained that imposition of price ceilings for these materials
is necessitated by the "outrageous" prices charged in recent months for their

nickel content. Frequently such prices have been double or triple the price of
virgin nickel.
"This schedule represents another step in the general program of OPACS to

bring prices of scrap into line with prices of equivalent primary metals," Mr.
Henderson added. "The shortage of any metal will not be permitted to serve as
an excuse for runaway inflation of scrap prices."
Except for stainless steel scrap and nickel steel scrap, basic maximum
prices are established to apply on sales of scrap, unsuitable and unprepared for
industrial consumption. However a premium is allowed any seller of scrap, termed

a "converter", who performs all of the following functions:

(1) sells scrap directly to a consumer,
(2) by chemical test or assay, determines the metal constituents of the

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scrap,

(3) on that basis, sorts, grades, treats, packages or briquettes by hydraulic press, and otherwise prepares the scrap, for direct industrial consumption,
(4) guarantees the delivery of scrap in an agreed amount and analysis. Un-

less a seller of scrap satisfies all four criteria, he is not a converter and is
not entitled to the converter's premium but must sell his scrap at not more than
the basic maximum prices.

Quantity differentials are also established entitling any seller of scrap,
whether he is a converter or not, to a premium for shipments of a specified

quantity or more of material at one time. Thus a converter may be entitled to
both the converter's premium and the quantity premium. Sellers who are not con-

verters may nevertheless be entitled to the quantity premium.
The following example will indicate how the maximum prices are to be com-

puted. For example, the basic maximum price established for a pound of Inconel,
containing 80% nickel, 14% chrome, and 6% iron, is 26 per pound of nickel contained; 8$ per pound of chrome contained, and no payment for the iron. The basic
maximum price is thus 22.32 cents per pound. Any person shipping 10,000 pounds or
more of Inconel at one time may receive 22.82 cents per pound, including a quan-

tity premium of 1 cent. A converter, shipping 10,000 pounds or more may receive
24.32 cents per pound, including a converter's premium of 1à cents per pound.
A converter shipping less than 10,000 pounds may receive 23.82 cents per pound.

In addition to the basic maximum prices fixed for stainless steel scrap, a
premium of $10 a ton is allowed for sales of scrap in the form of hydraulic press
briquettes.

The maximum prices for nickel steel scrap are tied to the maximum prices
established for steel scrap in the Iron and Steel Scrap Price Schedule No. 4,
Revised, A grade of steel scrap containing less than 1% nickel may not be sold

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at more than the maximum price for a like grade of steel scrap fixed in Price
Schedule No. 4, Revised. The maximum price for a grade of steel scrap which
contains 1% or more nickel is the maximum price for a like grade of steel scrap

fixed in Price Schedule No. 4, plus $1.00 per gross ton for each t of 1% of
nickel content.

A broker's commission is allowed on sales of stainless steel scrap or nickel
steel scrap. The broker's commission on stainless steel scrap is 5% of the
established maximum price; it is 2% on nickel steel scrap.
The ceiling prices on secondary monel ingot, secondary monel shot, and

secondary copper-nickel shot will bring the prices of these materials into line
with the prices of equivalent secondary materials. Premiums are allowed for the
sale of these secondary materials in smaller lots.
The maximum prices established in Price Schedule No. 8, go into effect on
Monday, June 2, 1941, regardless of preexisting contracts. However, permission

will be granted by this office, to any person to carry out contracts entered into
prior to May 30, 1941, the date on which Price Schedule No. 8 was published in
the Federal Register, if such permission is necessary to protect such person

against loss in the disposition of inventory already acquired at prices higher
than the established maximum prices. Forms on which application for such permission may be made are available upon request made to the Office of Price
Administration and Civilian Supply, Washington, D. C.

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CHAPTER XI - OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY

Part 1308 - Scrap and Secondary Materials Containing Nickel

Price Schedule No. 8 - Pure Nickel Scrap, Monel Metal Scrap, Stainless Steel
Scrap, Nickel Steel Scrap and Other Scrap Materials Containing Nickel,
Secondary Monel Ingot. Secondary Monel Shot, and Secondary Copper-Nickel
Shot

Due to the needs of the defense program, the demand for primary

nickel, primary materials containing nickel, and for scrap and secondary

materials containing nickel, has increased to the extent that the available

supplies of such materials are insufficient to satisfy the total defense and
civilian demand. As a consequence, inflationary pressure has been exerted
upon the prices of such scrap and secondary materials causing their prices

to rise greatly in excess of levels which are in proper relation to the

price levels of primary materials. Price instability and dislocations
injurious to the national defense and civilian economy have resulted.

All this has made it difficult, and in some cases impossbile for the
trade to cooperate with the Government in maintaining price stability.
Accordingly, pursuant to and under the authority vested in me

by Executive Order No. 8734, it is hereby directed that:
8 1308.1 Maximum prices on sales of pure nickel scrap, monel
metal scrap. stainless steel scrap. nickel steel scrap and other scrap
materials containing nickel.

On and after June 2, 1941, regardless of the terms of any contract of sale
or purchase, or other commitment, entered into prior to such date, except

as provided in § 1308.3 hereof, no person shall sell, offer to sell, deliver,
or transfer at a price, to any other person, pure nickel scrap, ferro-nickelchrome-iron scrap, ferro-nickel-iron scrap. monel metal scrap, cupro-nickel
alloy scrap, stainless

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steel scrap, or nickel steel scrap, at prices higher than the
maximum prices set forth in Appendix A, incorporated herein as

§ 1308.10. No person shall buy, or offer to buy, or accept
delivery of, such scrap materials from any person at higher
prices. Lower prices than those set. forth in Appendix A may,
however, be charged, demanded, paid, or offered.*

§§ 1308.1 to 1308.11, inclusive, issued pursuant
to the authority contained in Executive Order 8734.
1308.2 Maximum prices on sales of secondary monel
ingot, secondary monel shot and secondary copner-nickel shot.
§

On and after June 2, 1941, regardless of the terms of any

contract of sale or purchase, or other commitment, entered into

prior to such date, except as provided in § 1308.3 hereof, no

person shall sell, offer to sell, deliver, or transfer at a
price, to any other person, secondary monel ingot, secondary

nonel shot, or secondary copper-nickel shot, at prices higher
than the maximum prices set forth in Appendix B, incorporated

herein as § 1308.11. No person shall buy, or offer to buy, or
accept delivery of, such secondary materials at higher prices.
Lower prices than the prices set forth in Appendix B, may,
however, be charged, demanded, paid, or offered.*

§ 1308.3 Permission to carry out contracts.
Any person seeking permission to carry out a contract of sale
or purchase, or other commitment, entered into prior to May 30,

1941, and calling for the delivery, after May 30, 1941, of any
of the scrap or secondary materials described in Appendix A

or 3, at prices higher than the maximum prices set forth in
the Appendices, may apply for such permission in writing upon
forms available upon request made to the Office of Price
Administration and Civilian Supply, Washington, D. C.

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Permission will be granted if necessary to protect such person

against loss in the disposition of inventory already acquired
at prices higher than the established maximum prices. Permission,
therefore, may be obtained only if such scrap or secondary materials,

in quantities sufficient to carry out such contract or commitment,
were acquired at prices higher than the established maximum prices,
and held on May 30, 1941, by (1) the person seeking such permission,

and (2) any other person, for delivery to the person seeking such
permission, under a firm commitment entered into prior to May
30, 1941.*

§ 1303.4 Evasion. The price limitations set forth in
this Schedule shall not be evaded whether by direct or indirect
methods in connection with a pruchase, sale, or transfer at a
price, of the scrap or secondary materials described in Appendix

A or B, or in connection with a purchase, sale, or transfer at
a price of any other materials, or by way of any service,
transportation, or other charge, or discount, premium, or
other privilege, or by tying-agreement or other trade understanding. or otherwise.*
§ 1308.5 Record-keeping requirements. Every person

purchasing or selling the scrap or secondary materials described

in Appendices A or B, shall, until such time as further information
is deemed necessary or appropriate hereunder, keep for inspection

by the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply, and
preserve for a period not less than one year, complete and
accurate records of:

(a) every pruchase and sale of such scrap or
secondary materials, showing the name and address of the

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-person from or to whom each such purchase or sale was made, the date

thereof, the price paid or received, and the quantity, in pounds or tons,
of each kind or grade purchased or sold; and

(b) the quantity, in pounds or tone, of such scrap materials
and, separately, the quantity, in pounds or tons, of such secondary

materials (1) on hand, and (11) on order, as of the close of each
month.*

§ 1308.6 Enforcement. In the event of refusal or failure
to abide by the price limitations, record requirements, and other
provisions contained in this Schedule, or in the event of any evasion
or attempt to evade the price limitations or other provisions con-

tained in this Schedule, this Office will make every effort to assure
(a) that the Congress and the public are fully informed of any failure
to abide by the provisions of this Schedule: and (b) that the powers
of the Government are fully exerted in order to protect the public
interest and the interest of those persons who conform with this

Schedule in the maintenance of the ceiling prices herein set forth.
Persons who have evidence of the demand or receipt of prices above the

limitations set forth, or of any evasion of or effort to evade such
requirements, or of speculation, or manipulation of prices of the scrap
and secondary materials, for which maximum prices are herein established,

or of the hoarding or accumulating of unnecessary inventories thereof,
are urged to communicate with the Office of Price Administration and
Civilian Supply.*

§ 1308.7 Supplemental schedule and reporting requirements. In
order to insure compliance with this Schedule supplements further stating

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its scope and, if necessary, requiring reports to the Government, will be
issued from time to time when found appropriate.*

§ 1308.8 Modification of the Price Schedule. Persons com-

plaining of hardship or inequity in the operation of this Schedule
may apply to the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply
for approval of any modification thereof or exception therefrom.*
§ 1308.9 Definitions. When used in this Schedule, the term
"person" includes an individual, partnership, association, corporation
or other business entity.*

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can 1308.10 APPENDIX A. maximum prices for pure nickel scrap. monel

metal scrap. nickel steel scrap. stainless steel scrap. and other scrap
materials containing nickel
Introductory
Maximum prices herein established are for the principal kinds or
grades of the scrap materials. All other kinds of grades, which are not
specified, should be sold at their normal differentials from such principal
kinds or grades. Moreover, the maximum prices are established for scrap which
meets generally accepted maximum standards in the trade - as, for instance,
the standard classification of the National Association of Waste Material

Dealers, Inc., contained in its Circular o, effective as of June 1, 1940.
Scrap which fails to meet such standards should be sold at their normal
differentials below the established maximum prcies.
PART I
PURE NICKEL SCRAP, FERRO-NICKEL-CHEOME-IRON SCRAP,
FERRO-NICKEL-IRON SCRAP, MONEL METAL SCRAP
AND CUPRO-NICKEL ALLOY SCRAP

The maximum prices established for the kinds and grades of scrap

materials set forth in Part I of this Appendix, apply on sales of scrap,

unsuitable and unprepared for industrial consumption. A converter of
scrap as hereinafter defined, may receive, in addition to the maximum
prices set forth below, a stated maximum premium for scrap which he has
converted. A "converter" of scrap is defined for the purposes of this
Price Schedule to include only those persons who:
(1)
(2)

(3)

(4)

sell scrap directly to a consumer thereof; and,
by chemical test or assay, determine the metal
constituents of the scrap; and,
on that basis, sort, grade, treat, package of briquette by
hydraulic press, and otherwise prepare, the scrap, making it
suitable for direct industrial consumption; and
guarantee the delivery of scrap in an agreed amount and analysis.

Unless a seller of scrap satisfies the four criteria, set forth above,

he may not receive a converter's premium. His scrap must not be sold at a
price higher than the maximum prices set forth below.
Furthermore, a converter or any other person may receive, in addition

to the maximum prices set forth below, a premium of a stated maximum amount

on shipments of a specified quantity of material.

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Price

(f.o.b. point of shipment)

Pure Nickel Scrap
Containing 98% or more nickel
and not more than 3% copper

26$ per pound of material,

Containing 90% up to 98% nickel

26$ per pound of nickel
contained; no payment for
any other metals contained.

Converter's premium

24 per pound of material.

Premium on shipments of 2000 pounds 14 per pound of material.

or more of material at one time

Ferro-nickel-chrome-ird scrap
Containing 20% up to 90% nickel

26 per pound of nickel contained;

8$ per pound of chrome contained; no payment for any
other metals contained.
Converter's premium

1 per pound of material.

# per pound of material.
pounds or more of material at one time

Premium on shipments of 10,000

Ferro-nickel-iron scrap
Containing 14% up to 90% nickel and 26g per pound of nickel contained; no payment for any

no chrome

other metals contained.

Converter's premium

1 per pound of material.

# per pound of material.
pounds or more of material at one time

Premium on shipments of 10,000
Monel Metal Scrap

New Monel Metal Clippings

20g per pound of material.

Soldered Monel Metal Sheet

18 per pound of material.

No. 1 Grade Monel Castings

15 per pound of material.

and Turnings,

Containing a minimum of 60% nickel,
30% copper, and not more than 3%

free iron, clean and dry.
Converter's premium

2$ per pound of material.

Premium on shipments of 20,000

1# per pound of material.

pounds or more of material at
one time

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Price

(f.o.b. point of shipment)

Cupro-Nickel Allov Scrap
Containing 90% or more combined

nickel and copper

26$ per pound of nicke contained;

8+ per pound of copper contained; no payment for any
other metals contained.
Containing less than 90% combined
nickel and copper

26$ per pound of nickel contained; no payment for any
other metals contained.

Converter's premium

2$ per pound of material.

Premium on shipments of 20,000

# per pound of material.

pounds or more of material at
one time.

PART II
STAINLESS STEEL SCRAP AND NICKEL STEEL SCRAP

In the event that a consumer of stainless steel scrap or nickel
steel scrap shall employ an agent or broker to purchase such scrap
for the consumer's use, the consumer may pay the agent or broker for
such scrap a sum not exceeding the applicable maximum price set forth

below plus a commission, in the case of stainless steel scrap, of not
more than 5% and in the case of nickel steel scrap, of not more than
2% of such maximum price. The commission shall be payable only if
(a) the agent or broker guarantees the quality and delivery of an
agreed tonnage of the scrap; (b) the commission is shown as a separate
charge in invoicing and billing; and (c) the agent or broker does not
split or divide the commission allowed him by a consumer with the

seller or sellers of the scrap.

Kind or Grade of Scrap Material

Price

(f.o.b. point of shipment)

Stainless Steel Scrap
18% Chrome, 8% Nickel Type
Containing 16%-20% chrome and

$85 per gross ton.

7%-10% nickel, except as indicated below
Containing 18% chrome, 8%

$95 per gross ton.

All other grades or types
of chrome-nickel stainless

28 per pound of nickel

nickel and .08% or less carbon

steel scrap

contained;

9hd per pound of chrome contained; no payment for any
other metals contained.

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- 12 Kind of Grade of Scrap Material

Price

(f. .o.b. point of shipment)

Straight Chrome Type

Containing 16% chrome

$40 per gross ton.

Containing 12%-14% chrome

$35 per gross ton.

A maximum of $10 a gross ton may be added to the maximum prices

set forth above for sales of stainless steel scrap in the form of

hydraulic press briquettes.
Nickel Steel Scrap

The maximum price at which a grade of steel scrap containing
less than 15 of nickel may be sold to a consumer shall be the maximum

price for a like grade of steel scrap, as set forth or determined under
the Iron and Steel Scrap Price Schedule No. 4, Revised.

The maximum price at which a grade of steel scrap containing
15 or more nickel may be sold to a consumer shall be the maximum

price for a like grade of steel scrap, as set forth or determined

under the Iron and Steel Scrap Price Schedule No. 4, Revised, plus
$1.00 per gross ton for each % of 1% of nickel content. 1
§ 1308.11 APPENDIX B, maximum prices for secondary monel metal
ingot. secondary monel metal shot. and secondary copper-nickel shot.
Price

Kind or Grade of Secondary Material (per pound, f.o.b. point of
shipment)

Monel Ingot

27$

Monel Shot

27$

Copper-Nickel Shot

25

containing 48% to 52% Nickel and 52% to
48% Copper and not more than 1% foreign matierals

1/The formula shall be applied in accordance with the following
table

1% up to 1.25% nickel content
"

.

If

.
If

etc.

If

1.25% up to 1.50%
1.50% up to 1.75%
1.75% up to 2.00%
2.00% up to 2.25%

1 $4

+ $5
+ $6
+ $7
+ $8

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- 13 The maximum prices herein established are for the principal

kinds of grades of the secondary materials. All other kinds or

grades which are not specified should be sold at their normal
differentials from such principal kinds or grades. The maximum
prices set forth above apply if the kind or grade of secondary

material is sold, shipped, delivered, or carried away, in lots of

30,000 pounds or more. If such secondary material is sold and

shipped, delivered, or carried away in lots of:

10,000 up to 30,000 pounds, ## per pound may be added to such prices

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Issued this 29th day of May, 1941

LEON HENDERSON

ADMINISTRATOR

CERTIFIED TO BE A TRUE COPY OF THE ORIGINAL
JOHN E. HAMM
DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR

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OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY
For Immediate Release
June 3, 1941

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Further amendments to Price Schedule No. 2 designed to simplify administration
of maximum prices for aluminum scrap and secondary aluminum ingot were issued today

by Leon Henderson, Administrator, Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply.
Principal charges, effective June 3, include:
(1) Special secondary aluminum alloys have been removed from that part of the

schedule relating to secondary aluminum ingot. The types of aluminum alloy ingot
now covered by the schedule include all silicon alloys, piston alloys, and No. 12

alloy. However, the usual differentials based upon market prices of the ingrefients
and the expenses of manufacturing are to be observed.

(2) Price regulation has also been removed from aluminum scrap of designated

grades produced by the aircraft industry, segregated as to alloy, and returned to

the supplier of the original material for reconversion into similar material in accordance with instructions of the Director of Priorities.
(3) Quantity differentials for aluminum scrap have been removed but such differentials continue on secondary aluminum ingot sold in less than 30,000 pound lots.
(4) A special note has been added to Appendix A removing from the schedule al-

uminum foil and light gauge sheet which does not exceed .006 of an inch in thickness,
Removal of special aluminum alloys from the schedule of maximum prices gives

the trade wider discretion in establishing fair differentials for such ingots. However, producers and dealers are expected to keep prices of such products in line with
the maximum prices established for the more standardized grades. It is expected

that customary differentials will be maintained. If this is not done voluntarily
ch differentials will have to be established by regulation.

Copy of amendment, Price Schedule No. 2, is attached.

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TITLE 32 - NATIONAL DEFENSE
CHAPTER XI - OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION
AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY

Part 1302-Aluminum Scrap and Secondary Aluminum Ingot
AMENDMENT OF PRICE SCHEDULE NO. 2

It appearing from investigation made and information received by

the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply that Price
Schedule No. 2, as amended, establishing maximum prices for aluminum

scrap and secondary aluminum ingot, should be further amended in order

to except therefrom certain special types of aluminum scrap and alloys

and to facilitate the accomplishment of the purposes of said Price
Schedule,

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, pursuant to and under the authority of

Executive Order 8734, that Paragraph 5, Appendix A and Appendix B of
the said Price Schedule No. 2 be and the same hereby are renumbered as

Sections 1302.5, 1302.14, and 1302.15, respectively, and are further
amended, effective June 3, 1941, as follows:

Section 1302.5 (Par. 5) is amended to read as follows:

1302.5. Conversion of Scrap on Behalf of a Maker of the Scrap. A
maker of aluminus scrap may sell, deliver, or transfer aluminum
scrap to the producer of the material from which the scrap is made
and the producer may purchase and receive such scrap, without re-

gard to the maximum prices set forth in Appendix A, attached hereto,

provided that either (a) The aluminum scrap so sold, delivered or transferred consists
of extrusion butts or ends, redraw tube ends, or rod turnings
of not more than one alloy, and such sale, delivery or transfor is made pursuant to a written contract whereby the purchaser

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of the scrap agrees to convert the scrap to the type of material from which the scrap was made and to deliver to the maker
of the scrap an equivalent amount of the same type of material,

and such sale, delivery or transfer is made in accordance with
an established practice existing between the parties prior to
March 24, 1941, and at prices which have not been increased

since said date, or

(b) The aluminum scrap so sold, delivered or transferred consists
of unpainted and unlacquered strong alloy scrap in the form of
sheet clippings or mutilated sheets, tube ends or mutilated
tubing, or extrusion ends or mutilated extrusions, and is made
by the aircraft industry and segregated as to alloy and sold,

delivered or transferred to the producer of the material for
conversion in accordance with the terms of the letter of the

Director of Priorities to members of the aircraft industry
under date of March 6, 1941.
Section 1302.14 (Appendix A), Maximum Prices for Aluminum Scrap,
is amended by:

(a) Deleting therefrom the second footnote and the line "on carload shipments** above the price columns.

(b) Inserting at the end thereof the following:
Special Note: Aluminum foil and light gauge aluminum
sheet which does not exceed .006 of an inch in thickness

shall not be subject to this Price Schedule.

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-Section 1302.15 (Appendix B), Maximum Prices for Secondary

Aluminum Ingot, is amended by striking from the second item set
forth under the heading "Grade of Secondary Aluminum Ingot",

the words, "and Special Alloya".

Dated this 2d day of June, 1941.

Leon Henderson,

Administrator

CERTIFIED TO BE A TRUE COPY OF THE ORIGINAL:

John E. Hamm, Deputy Administrator

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CHAPTER XI: OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVILIAN SUPPLY
PART 1309 - COPPER

Civilian Allocation Program for Copper

The total defense and civilian demand for Copper is in excess of the

available supply. To insure the obtaining of priority for deliveries of
Copper under present and future Naval and Army contracts and orders and re-

lated sub-contracts and sub-orders, the Priorities Division, Office of Production Management, has, simultaneously herewith, issued General Preference Order

No. M-9 to conserve the supply and direct the distribution of Copper. Such

Order will futher diminish the supply of Copper for civilian purposes. It is
necessary, therefore, after military defense needs are satisfied, to provide
for the equitable allocation of the residual supply of Copper among competing
civilian demands.

Accordingly, pursuant to and under the authority vested in me by
Executive Order No. 8734, particularly Section 2(a) thereof, and pending the

formulation of a more detailed program in this regard, the following program
for the equitable allocation of Copper among competing civilian demands is
announced for the interim period.
§

1039.1 Insofar as the Director of Priorities, pursuant to General

Preference Order No. M-9, particularly Section 933.1(b). (1), (2) and (3)

thereof, will make allocations of the Copper set aside by Refiners and the
Copper owned by the Metals Reserve Company among competing civilian demands,

the Director will be guided by general or specific policies and programs formulated by the Administrator. The following factors, among other relevant
factors, are to be taken into consideration in allocating Copper among
competing civilian demands:

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a, The need to provide adequately for civilian uses of Copper
essential to the public welfare.
b. The degree of hardship upon labor or business resulting from
the restrictions contained in General Preference Order No. M-9.

c. The past rates of consumption of Copper by fabricators,

d. The objective of achieving an equitable relation with regard
to Copper supplies among all Copper fabricators, including those who are,

and those who are not, subsidiaries of, affiliated with, owned or controlled
by, Refiners.

e. The availability of substitutes for the particular uses for which
the Copper is sought.

f. The policy of the Administrator to refuse to allocate Copper to
any person who, in the conduct of his business, discriminates against defense
orders.

§ 1309.2 Insofar as Section 933.1(b), (1), of General Preference
Order No. M-9, relating to the shipment of the balance of a Refiner's production, over and above the amount required to be set aside, involves the allocation of Copper among competing civilian demands, it is in accord with the

policy of the Administrator.
§ 1309,3 In formulating general and specific policies and programs
for the allocation of Copper among competing civilian demands, an objective

will betb alleviate any substantial inequities found to exist in the amounts
of Copper obtained by fabricators as a result of the restrictions contained
in General Preference Order No. M-9.

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(2) If a copper supplier has both defense and non-defense orders,
he may fill the non-defense orders without requiring preference rating cer-

tificates from customers so long as this does not interfere with the require
ments that defense orders mist be filled first and that delivery dates on defense
orders must be met. He must, of course, comply with all terms of this order,
including the requirement to set aside a reserve pool.
(3) Beginning June 1, refiners shall set aside each month an amount

of copper, equal to 20% to April production, which will be specifically allocated by the Director of Priorities to meet emergency needs. The remaining

copper will be prorated among customers. Each refiner shall include in his
production figures copper refined for him under toll agreement but shall exclude copper refined by him for others.

(4) Beginning June 1, all copper then or thereafter owned by the
Metals Reserve Company (of the R.F.C.) will be allocated by the Director of
Priorities.

(5) Copper is removed from the list of sixteen metals and classes
of metals subject to inventory control under General Metals Order No. 1, but

the copper order itself provides inventory control and stipulates that custoners' inventories may not be built up to excessive or unnecessary levels.

(6) The order is not intended to apply to the distribution of copper
in fabricated or completed form (elthough any distributor of any copper products must comply with preference ratings) but is intended to govern the dis-

tribution of copper in prefabricated form. This has the effect of regulating
the distribution and supply of copper by going to the primary industrial source
of the metal.

(7) Copper, for the purpose of the order, is defined as "Copper
metal produced from ores or scrap which has been refined by any process of

electrolysis, or produced from ores by any process of fire refining, to a

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grade, and in a form (cathodes, wire bars, ingot bars, ingots, cokes, billets.

wedge bars or other refined shapes), suitable for fabrication. It shall also
include any Copper metal in the production of which Copper scrap has been

mixed with electrolytic or fire-refined Copper produced from ores." Under

the terms of this definition, the order does not regulate the distribution
of copper scrap, in scrap form, and excludes copper metal of the kind known
as "casting copper which has been prepared wholly from scrap by ordinary

fire refining or melting processes.
In addition to copper other metals now under mandatory industry-

wide control include: aluminum, magnesium, nickel, nickel-steal and ferro-

tungsten. Zinc is subject to partial control. Altogether, twenty-five
materials and classes of materials are now subject to some form of broad

priority control by the Priorities Division. More than 250 other items
appear on the Priorities Critical List and, therefore, are subject to control
in the sense that Army and Navy orders for these items can be assigned pref-

erence ratings by contracting officers of the serivces.
(oopies of the General Preference Order and the civilian allocation
program are attached.)

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TITLE 32 - NATIONAL DEFENSE
CHAPTER IX - OFFICE OF PRODUCTION MANAGEMENT

Subchapter B - Priorities Division
Part 933 - Copper
GENERAL PREFERENCE ORDER NO. M-9
TO CONSERVE THE SUPPLY AND DIRECT THE DISTRIBUTION OF COPPER

WHEREAS, it is found that there exists R serious shortage of Copper, as

hereinafter defined, which will increase in the future, by reason of the fact
that the present and future domestic supply and probably future imports are
now and will be insufficient for all defense and civilian needs, and it is
further found that such shortage will prevent the obtaining of priority for
deliveries of that material under present and future Naval and Army contracts and
orders and related subcontracts and suborders unless the total present and future
supply thereof be conserved and the present and future distribution directed,
and it is further found that the best interests of the national defense require
the exercise of the power conferred upon me to direct and insure such priority,
and

WHEREAS, the following provisions have been adopted by the Office of

Price Administration and Civilian Supply AS the basis for its Civilian Allocation Program for Copper issued simultaneously herewith, now, therefore,
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT:
933.1 GENERAL PREFERENCE ORDER

(a) Deliveries of Copper by any person shall be pade only in accordance with
the following directions:
(1) Deliveries under all Defense Orders which do not bear a higher
preference rating are hereby assigned a preference rating of A-10.
B-8.
(2) Preference ratings, in order of precedence,
are: AA, A-1-a,
A-10; BB, B-1, B-2

A-1-b.

A-1-J: A-2, A-3

(3) All deliveries to which a preference rating has been assigned

shall be made upon the date or dates required by the Preference

Rating Certificate assigned thereto, or, if none, then upon
the delivery date or dates specified in the contracts or
orders therefor. For the purpose, deliveries bearing no
preference rating or a lower preference rating shall be
deferred if necessary to assure the deliveries bearing a
higher preference rating. This provision shall not apply
to deliveries by the Metals Reserve Company.

(4) When there is doubt as to whether A particular contract or
order is a Defense Order the matter shall be referred to

the Division of Priorities for determination, with a statement of all pertinent facts.

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(5) Any person who accepts a delivery of Copper to which 6
preference rating has been assigned, either by this or any

other order or by any preference rating certificate,

shall use such Copper or an equivalent amount thereof
for the purpose for which such preference rating has
been assigned.

(6) Preference retings DAY be assigned from time to time

by the Director of Priorities to deliveries under con-

tracts or orders other than Defense Orders, or other
specific directions may be issued with respect to
deliveries under such contracts or orders. Except as
hereinafter limited, deliveries may be made under nondefense orders in the absence of such ratings or directions, after compliance with the preference ratings
assigned to Defense Orders.

(b) (1) During each calendar month hereafter, each Refiner shall
set aside from his production of Copper (including therein
Copper refined for his account under toll agreement, but
excluding Copper refined by him under toll agreement for
the account of others) a quantity equal to 20 percent of
his total production during April 1941 (including therein
Copper refined for his Account under toll Agreement, but
excluding Copper refined by him under toll egreement for
the account of others) to be delivered only upon express

direction of the Director of Priorities. The quantity

of Copper to be set aside may be veried from time to time

hereafter by Order of the Director of Priorities. Each
refiner shall ship the balance of his production in such

manner that, except as limited by the provisions of para-

graph (c) below, each customer shall receive P percentage
of the Refiner's commitments to him for the month, including
both Defense and non-defense Orders, equal to the percentage
received by every other customer. The restrictions specified

in this paragraph (b) (1) shall apply to and limit:

(1)

Shipments of Copper to third persons, including

affiliates and subsidiaries of the seller, and
(11) Shipments of Copper from the refining branch,

division or section of e single business enterprise to another branch, division or section of
the same or any other business enterprise owned
or controlled by the same person.

(2) Commencing June 1, 1941, all Copper then or thereafter
owned by the Metals Reserve Company will be allocated by

the Director of Priorities.

(3) The Director of Priorities on and after June 1, 1941, will,
in his discretion, make allocations of the Copper owned by
the Metala Reserve Company and the Copper set aside by

Refiners as provided in paragraph (b) (1) in accordance with
the following provisions:

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(1) For delivery to any person whose supplies on
hand and on order are insufficient for his
Defense Orders;

(11) Where deemed necessary to expedite deliveries
under Defense Orders and such result cannot
be adequately obtained use of preference
ratings;

(iii) For fulfillment of other orders which appear
to the Director to be directly or indirectly
in the interest of national defense;
(iv) Any surplus remaining after fulfillment of the
foregoing purposes may be allocated by the
Director among other non-defense orders. In

making such allocations, the Director will be
guider by the Civilian Allocation Program for
Copper issued simultaneously herewith by the

Office of Price Administration and Civilian
Sunnly. The Director may refuse to allocate to
apolicants who discriminate against Defense Orders.

(v) For June allocation, applications heretofore made
to the Advisory Copper Committee of the Metals
Reserve Company shell be treated AS applications

made to the Director of Priorities under this
Order; but any person may hereafter file with
the Director A new or supplemental application

for such allocation. Such applications, and
all future applications for allocation of such

Copper shall be made to the Director of Priorities
only on forms prescribed by him.

(c) In addition to the foregoing limitations, no person shell hereafter
knowingly deliver Copper to any customer, and no customer shall

accept delivery of Copper in an amount which will increase, for
any calendar month, the customer's inventory of such material in
the same or other forms, in excess of the quantity necessary to
meet required deliveries of such customer's products, on the basis
of his usual method and rate of operation.
(NOTE: Section 928.1 - General Metals Order No. 1has this day been amended by separate order by
striking therefrom the word "Couner" wherever the
same appears.)
(d)

No person shall hereafter enter into any new contract, or any amendment

or extension of any existing contract, for the refining of Copper on a
toll basis without specific permission of the Director of Priorities.
No existing toll contract shall be hereby invalidated or impaired until
further order, but copies of all such contracts must be filed with the
Director of Priorities within ten days after the effective date of this

Order.

(e) All Refiners and other persons who deliver Copper shall keep accurate

records of their inventories, and of all purchases, sales, and deliveries
of Copper, including the dates thereof, parties involved

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and other pertinent information, and shall, upon request, submit such
records to audit and inspection by duly authorized representatives of
the Priorities Division of the Office of Production Management, and
shall execute and file with said Division such reports and questionnaires concerning the foregoing as said Division may from time to time
request. No reports or questionnaires are to be filed by any person

until forms therefor are prescribed by the Division of Priorities.

(f) Any person who obtains Copper by means of a material or wilful misstatement contrary to any provision of this Order may be prohibited
by the Director from obtaining further deliveries of Copper from
any source.

(g) For the purposes of this Order:
(1) "Person" means any person, firm or corporation.
(2) "Defense Orders" means all contracts or orders for material
entering directly or indirectly at any stage of production
into deliveries

(1) for the Army or/Navy of the United States, or

(ii) for the defense of Great Britain, or
(iii) for the Government of any other country whose
defense the President deems vital to the defense
of the United States under "An Act to Promote the
Defense of the United States" (Public No. 11, 77th
Congress, First Session, approved March 11, 1941).
(3) "Copper" means Copper metal produced from ores or scrap

which has been refined by any process of electrolysis, or
produced from ores by any process of fire refining, to a
grade, and in a form (cathodes, wire bars, ingot bars,
ingots, cakes, billets, wedge bars or other refined shapes),

suitable for fabrication. It shall also include any

Copper metal in the production of which Copper scrap has

been mixed with electrolytic or fire-refined Copper produced from ores.

(4) "Refiner" means any person who produces Copper, as herein-

before defined, from ores or scrap by any process of elec-

trolysis or fire refining in grade suitable for fabrication;

for the purposes of this Order "Refiner" also includes any

person who has such Copper produced for him under toll agreement.
(h)

This Order shall take effect on the 29th day of May, 1941, and unless
sooner terminated shall expire on the 30th day of December, 1941.
This Order shall supersede as of the date hereof any special orders

or directions for the delivery of any Copper by the Director of
Priorities.
(O.P.M. Reg. 3, Mar. 7, 1941, 6 F. R. 1596;
E. O. 8629, Jan. 7, 1941, 6 F. R. 191;
Sec. 2(a), Public No. 671, 76th Congress)
Issued this 29th day of May, 1941.

R. Stettinius Jr.
Director of Prietities

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OFFICE FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

Division of Priorities, Office of Production Management
and

Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply

For immediate release

PM 488

May 31, 1941

Copper today was added to the list of vital defense
metals under mandatory, industry-wide control. The new control is pro-

vided in a General Preference Order signed by E. R. Stettinius, Jr.,
Director of Priorities, who said the action was made necessary by a
shortage of copper which is expected to become worse during 1941.

At. the same time, a Civilian Allocation Program for
Copper was issued by Leon Henderson, Administrator, Office of Price Ad-

ministration and Civilian Supply. In making allocations of copper among competing civilian demands, the Director of Priorities will be
guided by the principles set forth in the OPACS program.
The civilian program, first to be issued by OPACS,
takes into account the need for providing as much copper as possible

for civilian uses; hardships which will be imposed on labor or business by restrictions; past rates of consumption by fabricators; the
desirability of pro-rating copper as equitably as possible among fab

ricators; availability of substitutes. OPACS will refuse to allocate
copper to any one in the industry descriminating against defense orders.

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Available figures indicate that the total
supply of refined copper in this country during 1941 will range
between 1,340,000 and 1,470,000 short tons. Total military and
civilian requirements, however, are estimated at about 1,810,000

short tons, thus indicating an overall shortage for the year of
from 340,000 to 470,000 short tons.

Such a shortage is considered especially

serious because copper is used widely in both civilian and military
channels. Typical military uses include the manufacture of shell
cases, small arms ammunition, fire-control equipment, power and
telephone equipment, switchboards, generators and parts in plane
motor.

One of the problems involved is that, although
the Reconstruction Finance Corporation is prepared to buy up to

50 oon tons of refined Chilean copper in 1941, there is a question
as to whether the Chilean refiners can meet this schedule and also

as to whether ships will be available to transport it. The figures
previously given for anticipated supply of copper in 1941 are
based on the expectation of getting a S ibstantial part of the
Chilean copper.

Worked out by the Priorities Division and by representatives
of the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply, the new
General Preference Order has the effect of giving all defense needs

first call on the copper supply.
Major points in the order are:
(1) All defense orders which do not bear a higher preference

rating are assigned a rating of A-10. This puts such orders ahead
of non-defense orders with lower ratings or no ratings.

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§ 1309.4 The terms used in this Order shall be defined as they
are defined in General Preference Order No. M-9.

Issued this 29th day of May, 1941.

LEON HENDERSON

ADMINISTRATOR

Certified to be a true copy of the original

JOHN HAMM,

DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR

Secretary Morgenthan - Room 280
DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF
ADVANCE NOTICE RADIO PROGRAMS

FRIDAY, JUNE 6

Time:

3:15 P.M.

Station: WMAL, Washington, D. C.
Program:

Baseball Game.

NOTE: Baseball games scheduled through June 14 on
WMAL under sponsorship of General Mills, Inc.
will use Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps
announcements sometime during the game each

day. Similar announcements are being carried
on baseball games, sponsored by General Mills,
over 86 stations throughout the country.

Time:

8:00 - 8:30 P.M.

Station: WRC, Washington, D.C., and National
Broedcasting Company Red Network

Program: Waltz Time.

Time:

8:30 - 8:55 P.M.

Station: WMAL, Washington, D. C., and National
Broadcasting Company Blue Network.
Program:

"Your Happy Birthday".

Time:

10:00 - 10:15 P.M.

Station: WJSV, Washington, D. C., and Columbia
Broadcasting System Network.

Program: Treat Time.

THESE PROGRAMS PROMOTE SALE OF DEFENSE BONDS AND STAMPS

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June 5, 1941
P

y

Dear Sir:

Acknowledgment is made of your letter of June 4,
1941, addressed to the Secretary of the Treasury, enclos-

ing copies of a letter of May 31, 1941, from the Attorney
General, and of a proposed Executive Order, entitled

"Authorizing the Attorney General to investigate and

require reports as to transactions and property involving foreign interests". An expression of the views of
this Department is requested.

The matter will be given careful consideration and
the Director of the Bureau of the Budget will be advised
in connection therewith as soon as possible.

Very truly yours,
(Signed) L. J. Bernard
Assistant General Counsel

F. J. Bailey, Esq.,
Assistant Director,
Bureau of the Budget,

Executive Office of the President,

Washington, D. C.

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EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT

Bureau of the Budget
Washington, D.C.

June 4, 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

Enclosed herewith are copies of a letter of
May 31, 1941 from the Attorney General, and of a

proposed Executive Order, entitled "Authorizing the

Attorney General to investigate and require reports
as to transactions and property involving foreign
interests".

It will be appreciated if the Director of
the Bureau of the Budget may have an early expres-

sion of your views with respect to the proposed
Executive Order.

Very truly yours,

/s/ F. J. Bailey
(a)

Assistant Director
Legislative Reference

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury.
Enclosures.

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OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

WASHINGTON, D. C.

May 31, 1941

The Director,
Bureau of the Budget,
Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Director:

I am herewith transmitting for your consideration
a copy of a proposed Executive Order entitled "Authorizing

the Attorney General to investigate and require reports as to

transactions and property involving foreign interests."
I am also enclosing for your information "Summary
of Expenses" showing the amounts estimated as necessary for

administering the order.
I shall appreciate your views on the proposed order

at your earliest convenience. Kindly return the "Summary of
Expense" with your reply.
Respectfully,
/s/ ROBERT H. JACKSON

Attorney General.

Enc. 214090

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EXECUTIVE ORDER

AUTHORIZING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO
INVESTIGATE AND REQUIRE REPORTS AS TO
TRANSACTIONS AND PROPERTY INVOLVING
FOREIGN INTERESTS

By virtue of and pursuant to the authority vested in me
by Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917 (40 Stat. 411),
as amended, and by virtue of all other authority vested in me,
and by virtue of the continued existence of a period of
national emergency, and finding that this Order is necessary

in the interest of national defense, it is hereby ordered as
follows:

Section 1. The Attorney General may investigate, under
such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, any transaction

referred to in subdivision (b) of Section 5 of the Act of
October 6, 1917 (40 Stat. 411), as amended, in which any foreign

state or a national or political subdivision thereof has any
interest, by any person within the United States or any place
subject to the jurisdiction thereof; and the Attorney General
may require any person to furnish under oath complete information

relative to any transaction referred to in said subdivision (b)
of Section 5 of said Act, as amended, or relative to any

property in which any such foreign state, national or political

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any books of accounts, contracts, letters, or other papers,
in connection therewith in the custody or control of such
person, either before or after such transaction is completed.
Section 2. The Attorney General, with the approval of the
President, may prescribe regulations defining, for the purposes

of this Executive Order, foreign states, nationals and political
subdivision thereof and property in which any foreign state or

national or political subdivision thereof has any interest; and
the Attorney General may also prescribe such other regulations

and such rulings, orders, instructions, forms and reports as he
may deem necessary and desirable for the purpose of exercising the

powers and duties vested in him by this Executive Order.

Section 3. This Executive Order and any regulations, rulings,
orders, or instructions issued hereunder may be amended, modified

or revoked at any time.

Section 4. Nothing contained herein shall be construed as a
limitation upon any power heretofore or hereafter delegated by the
President under Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as
amended, to any other officer or agency of the Government.

THE WHITE HOUSE,

, 1941.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 5, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Kamarok

Subject:

Airplane Deliveries

Summary

1. There has been a slow rise in the number of planes

shipped to the British. In the first eight weeks of the

seventeen-week period covered in the reports, the weekly
average of combat planes delivered was 52. In the last
eight weeks the weekly average has been 59 combat planec
(excluding trainers).

2. One quarter of the planes delivered to the United
Kingdom travel by air rather than water. In the period
covered by the reports, 124, out of a total of 446 delivered
to England, have flown the Atlantic. All of the heavy

bombers and naval patrol bombers have taken this route.

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Division
of Monetary
Research

Airplane Shipments to the British
(From February 1 to June 1 by air
January 11 to May 10 by sea)

Table A. - Shipments by Area
Total

Latest
Week

Reported
To Date

28

349

Heavy bombers

5

38

(Consolidated PBY)
Pursuit

4

50

0

9

To the United Kingdom
Light and medium bombers

Naval patrol bombers

Light and medium bombers
Pursuit

446

37

Total to United Kingdom
To the Middle East

136
265

0

0

401

0

Total to Middle East
To the Far East
Light and medium bombers

Naval patrol bombers
(Consolidated PBY)
Pursuit
Trainers

6

0

8
1

123

21

55

0

192

22

Total to Far East
Totals

Light and medium bombers

S
bombers
Naval
patrol bombers
Pursuit
Trainers

Grand Total

5

491
38

5

58

28

397

21

55

0

59

1,039

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Table B.

Division of Monetary
Research

Shipments by Types

-

Total
Reported

Latest

To Date

Week

20

3

Boeing B-17

Brewster Buffalo
Consolidated Catalina (PBY)

Liberator

123

21

58

5

18

nov

Curties Tomahawk

0

Douglas - Boston

3

265
97

Glenn Martin Maryland

o

136

Grumman Martlett II

0

9

Lockheed Hudson I
Hudson III

0

Hudson IV
Hudson V

Electra

North American Harvard II
United Chesapeake

Grand Total - All Types

1

46

5

18

0

181

17
0

3

55

0

3

9

59

1,039

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Division of Monetary
Research

Table 0. - Plane Deliveries to the British by Weeks
Light

Week

Ended

and Medium
Bombers

Naval
Heavy
Bombers

Patrol

Bombers

Pursuit

Trainers
-

Total

Feb. 8

22

-

Feb. 15

42

-

-

100

-

142

Feb. 22

-

-

27

-

35

62

Mar. 1

-

25

3

7

25

-

5

10

-

3

-

-

31

Mar. 8

16

Mar. 15 #

26

Mar. 22

17

Mar. 29

25

Apr. 5

21

Apr. 12

21

Apr. 19

20

Apr. 26

23

May 3

61

May 10

36

1

May 17

61

13

May 25

30

10

June 1

28

5

5

21

491

38

58

397

-

37
29

1

4

-

22

-

2

41

18

-

46

3

-

-

73

7

2

-

52

-

32

28

56

15

27

106

10

-

8

7

19

27

2

4
3

5

2

1

101

-

3

2

-

25

55

-

100

-

65

-

59

55

1,039

. The date given is for shipments by air. Shipments by water
start three weeks earlier. That is, the statement reporting the

shipment of planes by air for the week ending June 1 would report
the shipment of planes by water for the week ending May 10.

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Foreign Activity Correlation

June 5. 1941
MR. MERLE COCHRANE

With reference to our telephone conversation
this morning, I am attaching hereto a paraphrase
of the telegram which was the subject of our
discussion.

A copy of this paraphrase is also being
sent to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

INIT. F.B.L.
F.B. Iyon

NOTE:

Merle:

I'11 phone you as soon

as I've been able to "un-garble,"
or whatever you do to a word

that isn't clear.

- Fred -

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM

P

From: Rio de Janeiro
To:

The Secretary of State

Dated: May 31, 1941

A nonimmigrant Section 3 (2) visa was issued at Rio, May 31, 1941, to

Jose Fernandez de Oliveira, a citizen of Brazil. This alien is en route to
the United States having left Rio on June 2, 1941. Despite the fact that he
is in possession of a valid visa for Trinidad, he is proceeding to the States
by plane by way of the West Coast of South America. The purpose of his visit
is to sell three large rough diamonds which are supposed to weigh 116.38 karats.

These diamonds are valued (official Brazilian evaluation) 763 contos 172 mil-

reis. There is a possibility that with the funds realized from the sale of
these diamonds, he may purchase (this word garbled but probably "boat") which

would sell in Brazil for ten times the price in New York. It is reported that
it is possible he might try to amoggle this out of the United States.

Copytala 6-5-41

Word should be "boort" which means fragmentary diamond material for grinding

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DES

MADRID

Dated June 5, 1941

Rec'd 3:20 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

509, June 5, 4 p.m.

The June 4th evening papers carry in box on first

page identical articles stating it has been unofficially
learned from the Banco de Espana that the Spanish Govern-

ment is negotiating for the recovery of $600,000 from
the sale of silver made by former Ambassador de los Rios

to the United States Government. "Efforts to recover
this silver valued at approximately $10,000,000 have
failed by reason of an American law which required the

purchase of all silver offered in order to regulate world
market prices. The $600,000 referred to is a premium

of 5 percent on the silver sold."
WEDDELL
KLP

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COPY
CONFIDENTIAL

PARAPHRASE
A confidential telegram (no. 201) of June 5, 1941
from the American Consulate General at Hong Kong reads

substantially as follows:
On June 5 the British Financial Commissioner in the
Far East (Hall-Patch) called at the Consulate General

and expressed confidentially anxiety in regard to certain
points as follows: (a) alarming development in the

interior of China of inflation as shown by the influx
into Shanghai of bank notes although quiet still prevails
outwardly in the Shanghai market; (b) absence on the

part of the Chinese of agreement to the nomination by
Great Britain of Mr. Rodgers as the British member of
the stabilization board; (c) Dr. Kung's purported scheme

In attempting, to the detriment of Shanghai interests,
to rush Mr. Fox and his party to Chungking immediately.
Mr. Hall-Patch expressed the wish that in some way
M

joint Washington-Gondon action instead of action anywhere

in China might effect stabilisation. The American Corsul
at Hong Kong made no comment to Mr. Hall-Patch and transmits

the above as information.

A typhoon delayed the arrival of the Clipper carrying
Mr. Fox and his party. Arrangements are being made for
Mr. Fox to meet, when he arrives in Hong Kong, American

bankers in that city.
pY:bj:6-10-41

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KD

Berlin
Dated June 5, 1941

Rec'd. 10:25 a. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2203, June 5, 11 a. m.

It is reported in Berlin that the Yugoslav
National Bank has been liquidated on the grounds

that "its assets are unobtainable and unascertainable".
A new Serb bank of issue has been created under the
"Serbian National Bank" with Dr. Radosasjevich as
Governor. The NEW bank has a capital of 100,000,000

Serb dinars, a new currency unit to replace the old
Yugoslav dinar at the same rate. This new dinar is
not backed by gold but is described as "a currency of
work on the German model backed by bills of Exchange
and other sure business documents." The Serb Governor

will be assisted and advised by Director Soengen of
the German Reichsbank. This new banking and currency

arrangement follows closely that set up in General
Government of Poland.
INFORM TREASURY AND COMMERCE.
MORRIS.
NPL

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 5. 1941.
TO

Secretary Morgenthan

CONFIDENTIAL

FROM Mr. Cochran

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns

£34,000

Purchased from commercial concerns

9,000

Open market sterling was quoted at 4.03-1/4, as against 4.03-1/2 yesterday, and
there were no reported transactions.
The Canadian dollar moved off to 11-3/8% discount by the close today, as compared with 11-1/8% last night.

The Argentine free peso, which touched a high of .2388 on June 3. was finally
quoted at .2373 today.

The Cuban peso moved to a new high of 1-5/8% discount, as against 1-13/16%
yesterday.

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below were

as follows:

Swiss franc
Swedish krona

.2321-1/2

Reichamark

.2385
.4005

Lira

.0526-1/4

Mexican peso

.0505
.2070

Brazilian milreis (free)

In Shanghai, the yuan was unchanged at 5-3/8. Sterling was quoted at 3.89-1/2,
off 1-3/44.

There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.

The State Department forwarded a cable to us which stated that the Comptoir
National d'Escompte in Bonbay, India, shipped $131,000 in gold to the Chase National
Bank, New York, for sale to the New York Assay Office.

In London, the price fixed for spot and forward silver was 1/16d lower at 23-3/88,

equivalent to 42.444.

The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35 Handy
and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 34-3/44.
We made one purchase of silver amounting to 75,000 ounces under the Silver Purchase Act. This consisted of new production from various foreign countries, and was
bought for forward delivery.

AMP

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MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION

TESTATIVE LESSONS BULLETIN

No. 115

WAR DEPARTMENT

0-2/2657-235

Washington, June 5, 1941

NOTICE

The information contained in this series of bulletins
will be restricted to items from official sources which are
reasonably confirmed. The lessons necessarily are tentative
and in no sense mature studies.
This document is being given an approved distribution,

and no additional copies are available in the Military Intelligence Division. For provisions governing its reproduction,
see Letter TAG 350.05 (9-19-40) M-B-M.

GERMAN INFANTRY BATTALION

IN THE ATTACK IN BELGIUM

SOURCE

This bulletin is based upon a translation of an unsigned
article appearing December 4, 1940, in Die Wehrmacht, an official
semi-monthly periodical published by the Supreme Command of the

German Defense Forces. The bulletin describes in part the actions of

a German infantry battalion operating in the vicinity of Thielt,
40 miles west of Brussels, during the Lys River crossing operation.

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GERMAN INFANTRY BATTALION

IN THE ATTACK IN BELGIUM

On the morning of May 24, 1940, at Demarolle, Major Lans,
commander of a German infantry battalion, met Major General of
Infantry Geyer. The General gave him the following order:

"You will cross the Lys near Macheln with your battalion
immediately, take Gotthem, and break through the western edge

of Denterghem. There will be no artillery at your disposal.
It has not yet come up. I can assign no pioneers to you. The

battalion must help itself. This order is effective at 9:15 A.M."
Orders are orders. Since there were no pioneers available,

the battalion helped itself.

Rafts were constructed from empty metal drums, discovered in

a deserted factory. Since there was no artillery, the heavy infantry
weapons had to furnish fire protection for the crossing of the battalion.
At 11 A.M. the leading elements crossed the Lye and established
a bridgehead on the opposite bank without encountering hostile resistance. The remainder of the battalion followed with the heavy weapons.
The entire operation took place according to plan, and the attack
was carried on in the direction of Gotthem.

Up to that point, the Belgians had acted as if they were not
present, or had not seen the Germans, or did not care. But suddenly
from a field of shoulder-high wheat, weapons of all calibers opened

fire. The high grain made visibility impossible for the attackers,

and orientation was extremely difficult, but the courageous, seasoned
men of lower Saxony strained every nerve to continue the advance.

The Belgians, with their deadly fire, fought desperately for every
square meter of terrain. The German attack came to a standstill on
the eastern edge of Gotthem in a hail of Belgian shell fire.

It was very embarrassing for Major Lanz, a hard-bitten, roughand-ready campaigner, to request from his regimental commander per-

mission for his battalion to retreat, but senseless sacrifice of

German blood could not be permitted. Dislodging an enemy from a

carefully selected position without artillery preparation is impossible.

The regimental and division commanders both responded to the request
of the battalion commander, and Major Lanz' battalion was disengaged

late in the evening of that hot day without a single casualty.
On Saturday, May 25, the regiment was ordered to capture
Gotthem and Denterghem the next day. In answer to questions, two
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of the three battalion commanders in the regiment replied that they
could not initiate an attack with their commands because of losses
suffered in earlier attacks. Major Lanz' battalion had been forced
to give up the attack on the previous day because of fierce enemy
fire; and it had, in addition, suffered numerous losses on May 25.
After a quick decision, however, Major Lanz declared that he would
attack with his battalion for the second time, and this time with
success. But first he requested a night's rest for his exhausted
men.

In the meantime, the long-awaited pioneers arrived, and with

great skill they threw a permanent bridge across the river. Artillery
also arrived and took revenge for the effective hostile fire of May

24. The Belgians found out what German artillery can do.

Major Lanz' battalion began the attack at 8 A.M. on Sunday,
May 26. It had been reinforced by an infantry cannon platoon and by
an antitank platoon, and each of the three rifle companies had been
reinforced by a detachment of heavy machine guns. Followed by the
other two battalions of the regiment echeloned on the right and left
respectively, Major Lanz' battalion crossed the Lys bridge and forced
its way into the hostile country beyond.
There were numerous hardships incident to the attack, including

the indescribable difficulties of the terrain. Grain growing nearly
six feet high over the rolling country made visibility impossible

beyond ten paces, and stretching the head above the grain was prohi-

bited because enemy bullets whistled through the air in all directions.
Despite these obstacles and the heavy artillery fire with which the
enemy again greeted the attackers, Gotthem was captured in a compara-

tively short time. The battalion staff then pushed through the
center of Gotthem and tried to make contact with two leading companies, from which nothing had been seen or heard since the attack
began.

Messengers were sent out, but they brought back nothing to

show for their efforts; they could not find anyone. Finally Major
Lanz ran upon a platoon of C Company and two infantry cannon just
west of Gotthem. Since contact could not be established with A and
B Companies, and since the attack, as such, had already failed, he

decided promptly, boldly, and in spite of cost, that he would reach
the objective with that single platoon of 0 Company, reinforced by
the two infantry cannon and a group from his battalion staff.
The group marched toward Denterghen with Major Lanz at its
head. It passed Molenhoek on the north and advanced along the bank
of the Mandelbeek River. Here and there on the way, scattered groups
from the lost companies were met, attached to the Lanz group, told
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of the mission, and given their orders.

The only guide the troops had as they struggled single file
through the wheat field on that cloudless day was the compass in the
hand of the battalion commander, but that more handful of men advanced
towards the objective which had once been assigned to the entire

reinforced battalion. They followed their leader with complete confidence because they knew that he was the only one who could get them

out of their hopeless position and lead them to victory.

The Mandelbeek was reached at noon. Prisoners were brought

in and sent back behind the line. They numbered about 50, all

vigorous young men.

The tiring advance continued. Suddenly, fire came from the
front and from the left flank, although no enemy was to be seen.
But heavy machine guns silenced the opposing fire, and the attacking

group promptly advanced to the Terdonk-Denterghen road, where bicycles

were scattered about in wild confusion. A Belgian bicycle squadron
had been so surprised by the suddenness of the German machine gun

fire just as it was about to dismount that it had been almost
completely destroyed.

At this point Major Lanz met Major S., commanding the 2d
Battalion. Major S., with a few runners, was making a reconnaissance,
while the remaining elements of his battalion, now only a reinforced
company, stood waiting two kilometers to the rear. The two commanders
discussed the situation and decided that the 2d Battalion would be
attached to the Lane Storm Troops. As it happened, this never took
place.

About 1 P.M. Major Lanz dictated to the regimental commander

the following message which illustrated the situation as it appeared

to the two battalion commanders:

"12:30 P.M., southeast of Mandelbeek and slightly south of
Denterghem. Heights of Denterghem reached. All companies of
battalion completely broken up and acattered by heavy artillery

fire and poor visibility. No unit still organized. Only sections
of platoons and individual groups of the 1st and 2d Battalions
remain. Have reorganized the remnants of A, B, and 0 Companies,
approximately two and a half platoons altogether, as well as
sections of F and H Companies, into a storm troop under my leadership, and am advancing to the eastern edge of Denterghem. Can
see neither friendly nor enemy troops, although fire is being
received from both flanks and often from the rear. Every attempt
at advance is met by fire from hostile infantry weapons.
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"Since there is no contact with other units of any kind,
and since collecting individual groups is utterly impossible, I

request IMMEDIATE assignment of reinforcements. Lieutenant Sch.
seriously wounded. No news of B Company since beginning of the

attack, except of those elements that have joined me. Information just received that Captain M. is near me. He has, however,

only five men left. I will have him join us. Have just met

Major G. with a few runners. He is attempting to guide sections
of E and F Companies to me. The men are so exhausted by the

attack that it can be continued only under extreme difficulties.

"I urgently request white flares in large quantities.
"Signed: Dr. Lanz
Major and Battalion Commander.

A runner worked his way through the waving wheat field
carrying the message back to the regimental command post. Meamwhile,
the battalion commander organized his troops into three platoons
and, with the infantry cannon, continued the attack to the eastern
edge of Denterghem, which was reached at 4 P.M. The platoons were
ordered not to lose sight of each other again in the decisive phase
of the attack. The Lanz Storm Troops held together in such a way
that the oral orders of the commander were constantly audible.

Belgians sprang out of their hiding places, threw down their
weapons, and joined the column of marching prisoners in increasing
numbers. No one had time now to bother about these men. Despite
their heroic registance, they had learned how hopeless it was to cross
swords with us.

About 500 meters south of Denterghem there was a farm, surround-

ed by a moat, from which the Lanz Storm Troops received fire devilishly well-aimed. Platoons were used to take the place from the north.
At the same time, and quite unknown to Major Lans, the farm was
attacked by C Company and an additional 30 men. The enemy increased

its fire to check the violence of the attack at all costs. It became

impossible for the attackers to effect a break-through from any
side, and both attacks were halted by the Belgian fire. Major Lans
then ordered the employment of two heavy machine guns and after two

belts of ammunition had been fired, the white flag was seen waving
from the farm. With arms up, the Belgian defenders came out of their
fortress and were sent away as prisoners of war. Between 800 and 900
prisoners were taken by the battalion during the day.
The objective, the western edge of Denterghem, was then easily
reached. The battalion bivouacked in a deserted factory, while Major
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Lanz telephoned his report to regimental headquarters over wires

hastily laid. A soldier standing near the telephone heard the Major
say:

"It was the most difficult day of my life. Only one thing

was perfectly clear to me: either I must reach the designated
objective or I should not come back at all."

After a night disturbed by incessant Belgian fire, reinforcements arrived and Major Lanz' troops continued the attack.

It was learned later that the capture of the objective at the
western edge of Denterghem completed the penetration of the Belgian

defensive sector on the Lys River at that point. On May 28 the

advancing troops marched 30 kilometers to Thielt without encountering
hostile resistance.
A few days afterwards the Belgians laid down their arms and
surrendered unconditionally.

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0-2/2657-220; No. 409 M.I.D., W.D.

12:00 M., June 5, 1941

SITUATION REPORT

I.

Western Theater.

Air: German. Fairly strong night attacks, with main
effort directed against Birmingham and Chatham.

British A daylight attack was made on the
Boulogne area.

II.

Mediterranean and African Theaters.

Ground: No change in the situation.

Air: Axis. A strong attack on Alexandria.
British Raids on Benghazi, on an airfield near
Tobruk and on Rhodes,

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June 6, 1941

Memorandum for the Secretary's Diary

Mr. Harold Stanley, of Morgan Stanley and Co. and
Mr. Charles McCain, of Dillon Read and Co., called on Secretary
Morgenthau on June 5, at 11:00 a.m. Ed Foley also attended at
the request of the Secretary.

Mr. Stanley said the purpose of the visit was to bring

the Secretary up to date on the Viscose deal in accordance with
the understanding reached at the April 18 conference attended
by Secretary Morgenthau and Messrs. Stanley, Douglas Dillon,

and Ed Foley.

The Secretary said that he was more than pleased with
the way the sale had been conducted. Mr. Stanley thanked the
Secretary and then reported that all the stock had been sold;
that the preferred had been offered at 107-1/2, was now being
quoted at 109; that the common had been offered at 24, and was
now being quoted at that figure; and while the syndicate had
not broken up, they proposed to wind up the details next Monday
when the sales price, less expenses, commissions, and down pay-

ment, would be turned over to the British. Stanley went on to
say that while the sale had not been easy, he thought the British
were thoroughly satisfied.

Secretary Morgenthau then asked Mr. Stanley if he would
object to questions in regard to the expenses, commissions and

the syndicate's profits. Mr. Stanley replied certainly not, and
that they were prepared to submit all the figures. Mr. Stanley
then produced the attached statement which Secretary Morgenthau
then went over item by item.

After several preliminary questions, Secretary Morgenthan
asked whether the total underwriting discount, expenses and con-

tract fees amounting to approximately $7.9 millions didn't represent nearly 13 percent of the total sale price. Mr. Stanley
admitted that it did and pointed out that the syndicate had already
given up almost $1 million as the result of the talk with Secretary
Morgenthau on April 18. Secretary Morgenthau then said that he
wanted to talk on a man-to-man basis; and to disassociate himself
from his office provided that was agreeable to the other gentlemen.
They assured him that they wanted him to talk freely.

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securities business and never expected to be and therefore didn't
look upon this transaction from the standpoint of one who was
experienced in the game. He said that he had been informed by
the SEC that the commissions and profits in this deal were not

out of line with the run of the mine cases of this kind. However,
it seemed to him, looking at the thing as a layman, that public
reaction would be much more favorable if the commissions and
fees were not so high. He said that he was taking the over-all

view; putting himself in the shoes of men who were not dealers
in securities, who occupy places like his, and who are close to
Prime Minister Churchill. They are the people who might make
the move for appeasement, and he thought that these people
might be a little shocked at the greediness of Wall Street and
while he realized that concerns like Morgan Stanley and Dillon
Read were in business for profit and he wanted them to make a
reasonable profit; nevertheless he thought it would be very good
advertising for Wall Street and for the British cause if the
commissions and fees could be kept to a minimum. He added that
Wall Street had not been very enlightened during the last eight
years and while he couldn't ask the gentlemen to give up profits
that they had earned under their contract; nevertheless, he would

be just a little bit disappointed if they didn't make some effort
in that direction. Mr. Morgenthau added that he would not say
anything about the matter outside the four walls of the room
and if the gentlemen rejected his suggestion he would still say
nothing and his door would still be open to them. Mr. McCain
asked Secretary Morgenthau if he had in mind any particular
amount and the Secretary r eplied that he thought the syndicate
could very well lop off another million.

Mr. Stanley then said he appreciated very much the
significance of what the Secretary was saying; that the Secretary
would not say such things lightly, and that he was torn between
his desire to be of as much assistance to Great Britain as
possible and at the same time to satisfy the seventeen members
of the syndicate. He said that he doubted very much if anything
could be done. Mr. McCain then said that if they returned any-

thing to the British it would be in the nature of a gift and they

would have to pay income taxes on it, as it represented income
earned under the contract. Foley said he thought the contract
could be revised. McCain said that he had been advised by counsel

that this could not be done. Foley said he would be glad to look

into the question.

287

-3The Secretary then said that he would be willing to
get a special act of Congress to exempt the syndicate from
tax on the amount of profit refunded to the British.
McCain and Stanley then said they would go back to
New York and use their best efforts but they were not hopeful.
The meeting broke up at 11:45.

June 4, 1943

AMERICAN VISCOSE CORPORATION

288

Afe Offerings

$24,561,600.00
101,546.71
87,652,000.00

228,480 lbs. Pfd. e $107.50 per Sh.
Accorded dividend to June Srd.

1,568,000 She. Con. . $24. per Sa.
$62,295,146.71

Proceeds of Public Offering
"

These were the offering prices for 91.14%

of the Company's outstanding stock. On
the basis of these prices the whole Company
would have a valuation of $68,551,049.72
Underwriting Discounts

8 571,200.00

$2.50 per Sh. on Pfd.
$2.25 per Sh. on Con.

3,528,000.00

4,099,200.00
$58,195,946.71

Resale Price

$ 838,856.29

(1) Expenses #
(11) 5% of down payment

1,822,800.00
581,959.47

(111) 1% of Resale Price

(1v) 5% difference between Resale Price

and (1) (11) (111) and $86,456,000

946.816.55

British Government to Receive
Payment on Account - April 16, 1941
Balance to be paid to British Government

ensation under March 15, 1941, Contract

581,959.47
946,816.55

(iv)

$1.00 per Sh. on 105,280 Shs. Pfd.

.75 . . . 708,550 a Com.

chasers Compensation as Bollers
$1.50 per Sh. on 71,871 Sha. Pfd.

1.50 : 406,400 . Con.

$56,445,514.40
86,456,000.00
$27,989,514.40

$1,822,800.00

(11)
(111)

rechasers Compensation as Underwriters

$3,750,482.51

$103,280.00
527,662.50

$ 650,942.50

$107,056.50
609,600.00

716,656.50

8,851,576.02

Total Compensation to the 17 Firms as Underwriters and Sellers $1,347,599.00
Total Compensation to the 17 Firms as Purchasers, including
Managers, and as Underwriters and Sellers

. 4,699,175.02

ajor part of the marketing costs, 1.0., the difference between $4,099,200 and $1,547,599.
lling $2,751,601. was the compensation of some 581 other Underwriters and Doelers,

fit or Loss in Trading Account not included.
itemised list.

289
June a 1941

AMERICAN VISCOSE CORPORATION - EXPIRES

Legal Fees
Disbursements
Taxes

Advertising
Disbursements
Pandick Press

Underwriting Agreements, letters, etc.
Price, Waterhouse & Co.

Arthur Little

Registration filing fee
Blue Sky Qualifying fee and Disbursements
and Delivery
ITelegrons
Shipping Prospectuses
Telephones
Postage

Miscellaneous

Reserved for Contingent Expenses not yet determined

$115,000.00
1,257.14
54,359.88
71,585.48
414.80

41,522.52
5,215.76
25,686.67
11,485.10
8,001.28
6,445.79
5,359.84
2,027.22
1,156.80
588.05
4,464.95
46.849.82
$396,856.29

.

290

June 6, 1941
9:30 a.m.

GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Cochran

Mr. Viner
Mr. Haas

Mr. Blough
Mr. White
Mr. Foley

Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Schwarz

Mr. Gaston

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

All right, Herbert, what have you got?

Gaston:

We would like to support a bill in - with

your permission - in Congress immediately
to raise the base pay of the uniformed force
of the Secret Service from the present

twelve eighty a year to fifteen hundred a
year. About two thirds of these men are

getting the minimum of twelve hundred a year.

It isn't enough to keep them up. It isn't

enough for the men and it isn't enough to
keep the right type of men on the uniformed
force.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, the uniformed force?

Gaston:

Yes, the guards, and if you don't object, we

want to do a little conspiracy up on the Hill

291

-2-

H.M.Jr:

to raise that base to fifteen hundred.
I heartily approve.

Bell:

Isn't that a classification matter? Is that
fixed by legislation?

Gaston:

We have to get it fixed by legislation. We
haven't been able to get it raised by classification, and Interior has a bill in now for
a similar--

H.M.Jr:

Do you mind, Herbert?

Gaston:

We are going to thresh it out at ten fifteen.

H.M.Jr:

One says, "No", and one says, "Yes", but as

far as I am concerned, it is all right.

Bell:

We have got a law in the books.

Thompson:

We have been thrown down on that, and we have

got to get it through legislation. This way,

going back to Congress, It will be an amendment to the act.
Bell:

Exceptions to your general law when you break

down your classification act, what good is it?

Why shouldn't the stenographers come along and

ask for the same thing?

White:

Good idea.

Viner:

Aren't you required by law to go to--

H.M.Jr:

Gentlemen, am I for it? Yes. Is Mr. Bell
against it? Yes. Would you get together?
As far as I am concerned, it is past me. Is

Gaston:

that all right?
All right.

292

-3Bell:

That is all that is necessary.

H.M.Jr:

You can have your day in court with Gaston,

is that fair enough.

Bell:

Well,
butteditin.isn't really my problem. I just

Thompson:

There is a lot of history attached to that,

Gaston:

All I am concerned with is getting the men more

and I think we can convince Dan.

money.

Bell:

I would like to see that too.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else, Herb?

Gaston:

No.

H.M.Jr:

Ed?

Foley:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Good morning.

Foley:

Good morning, sir.

H.M.Jr:

All right?
John?

Sullivan:

Good morning.

H.M.Jr:

How do you do.

Klotz:

Very formal this morning.

Cochran:

Sir Frederick Phillips phoned yesterday evening
to ask if he and Peacock could come in on
Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning, preferably.

They are going to be in town on the first of

293

-4the week.
H.M.Jr:

Well, let's hold them in suspense. Is somebody going to see them about that thing?

Bell:

I am going to try to get something this morn-

H.M.Jr:

Now, in my original talk - you make a note -

ing on it.

we originally asked Jesse Jones whether he
couldn't give the English some money to buy
some wool, and I see by the papers that he is

now thinking of buying a lot of wool. Now,
if he does, those dollars might go to their
credit.

Bell:

That is in that memorandum.

White:

They have already counted on those, they say.

H.M.Jr:

Anyway, I am throwing it at you. All right?

Bell:

Yes, sir. Jones called me last night on the

thread companies and said that he talked to
Peacock and that he didn't get much information and he didn't seem very much interested
in Mr. Jones' proposition. He suggested that
Jesse talk to a man from Dillon and Read,
and I think the man was down to see you. He
called him and-Foley:

McKain.

Bell:

Quinn, I thought it was.

Foley:

He is not Dillon Read. He is Tri-Continental.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it was Dillon and Read any how, and he
didn't furnish much information, so we gave
Jesse what Harry had worked up as a basis for

starting. We didn't get very far.

294

-5Cochran:

I told Phillips about that yesterday, too,
because I talked to Peacock the evening
before when Dan talked with Mr. Jones, so

he knows all about it and I asked if-H.M.Jr:

Knows all about what?

Cochran:

About that thread sale proposition and he
said it was not that on which Sir Edward

wanted to come in.
H.M.Jr:

Well, bring it up again Monday and we will

just - because I want to sort of stall them

until we know where we are with Hopkins on
Cochran:

this other thing.
That is all I have.

H.M.Jr:

Roy?

Blough:

You sent down a clipping regarding the publication of financing defense put out by the
Council for Democracy. I don't know what
you wish to know about that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they have got a full page ad about
taxes in the New York Times and all that.

Blough:

By the Council?

H.M.Jr:

And somebody, they say, is on the Treasury

staff, who helped prepare it.

Blough:

Well, Orville S. Poland.

Viner:

He was formerly a--

Bell:

I don't know him.

Kuhn:

I think I can tell you about that. The

Council for Democracy put out a booklet on
financing defense which had no reference whatever

295

-6to our Savings Bonds. Poland got this in
proof form and proceeded to raise hell with
them in a polite way in New York to get
that booklet to include some of your efforts
to keep down inflation by borrowing from the
people, and he went up there and went over

this booklet with them, but I don't think it

was ever intended that he should be a sponsor
for it, and I don't think he ever authorized
that.
H.M.Jr:

Well, somebody - get it - get a copy of the
booklet, will you, Roy?

Blough:

Yes. It hasn't yet been received by us. I

know something about its history, and it is
one of those things where they write out to

fifty people and get in their replies, and

then hire David Cushman Coyle to write something up, and then take what he writes and
turn it over to somebody else who rewrites

it entirely, and then put it out and list

the names of some of the more prominent people

who wrote in replies. That is all it is.
Schwarz:

Melvin Hansen and David Coyle are listed also.

Blough:

I talked to Dave Coyle this morning, and he
said maybe two or three sentences he wrote

are in the final publication.

H.M.Jr:

If you make many reports like that, you are
going to shame Harry White. (Laughter)

All right.

I signed a letter to Lily Pons and Grace

Moore, et al. Somebody is picking some good

voices.
Kuhn:

Mr. Callahan.

H.M.Jr:

What do I do at ten fifteen, have my picture

296

-7 taken and so forth and so on.
Kuhn:

Just the still cameras.

H.M.Jr:

Dr. Viner?
Dr. Haas?

Haas:

I have this report which you--

H.M.Jr:

I signed your letter to the President on steel.

Haas:

Oh, fine.

H.M.Jr:

Dr. Schwarz?

Schwarz:

Look at the company I am in.

H.M.Jr:

Professor White?

Schwarz:

Pardon me, I have something. I don't like to

dignify Fred Crawford from Michigan either, but
I think it might be well to smack him down

now before he-H.M.Jr:

I gave Harold a suggestion this morning on it.
Not on publicly, but he is going to send somebody up to see him.

Graves:

I have already talked with Larry about it.

H.M.Jr:

Dan, do you think, early next week, we can get

Bell:

Whenever we get rid of the British, I think

H.M.Jr:

You know, I feel fine this morning. You see,

on that tax certificate thing?

we can sit down and talk taxes.

I just - I gave birth to twins yesterday,

the Treasury tea party and the broadcast last
night, so I am in fine shape today. What have
you got on your mind?

297

-8Bell:

I think these fellows like Crawford and

Wolcott and a few more of them that are mak-

ing statements about the fiscal situation may
be causing quite a bit of hoarding throughout

the country. I have had several calls. I had

one yesterday from Harold Stonier of the ABA
and he was quite worried about the calls he
had received yesterday from banks in New
England and the banks in Los Angeles. People
are taking their money out of savings accounts.
When asked why, they say, "Well, there are a
lot of statements made on the floor of Congress

that their savings are going to be confiscated
and that the Government is going to tax their
savings." So they are drawing them out in

currency and putting them in safe deposit boxes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, now, if you work it so that we can get
those people to write me a letter mentioning
the fact that the people are doing this on
account of the statements Crawford and what
is the other fellow's name?

Bell:

Wolcott of Michigan, I think, is one.

H.M.Jr:

When I said the fellow was smart, the fellow
I meant was smart wasn't Crawford, it was

Wolcott that is the smart fellow.

Bell:

He is very smart.

H.M.Jr:

Wolcott is the smart fellow. I had him confused.

Bell:

Crawford sits right next to him.

Foley:

Crawford, as you remember, is the ex-prosecuting attorney who asks all the questions when
you go before the Banking Committee of the
House.

298

-9H.M.Jr:

But Crawford is a short, thick-set fellow.

Foley:

No,
that is Wolcott. Crawford is a slimfaced fellow.

H.M.Jr:

Well dressed?

Foley:

No, he wears glasses, pinch-nose glasses.

H.M.Jr:

I am thinking of that Republican from Weschester
Country or something.

Foley:

You are thinking of Ralph Gamble, I think.

White:

If there is some other aspect of it that

bothers you, Dan, than hoarding, it might be

important, but if it is just hoarding, hoard-

ing is a good thing now for prevention of
inflation. The more hoarding, the less
danger of inflation, unless there are some
aspects to it of rapid withdrawals from
some savings banks or something of that
character.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I still thing, Dan, that if you could
get a letter from the savings banks to the

ABA complaining, if they would, about these

two gentlemen, then I could take that letter

and send it up to them and say, "Now, look."
Bell:

I wonder if we might get some information and
maybe you could say something in one of your
press conferences.

H.M.Jr:

Will you give me something?
What else, Dan?

Bell:

Last year you may recall that our regulations
for the sale of Savings Bonds were so interpreted by the Department that private pension

299

- 10 funds could invest the full amount of their
money available. That is, we brought in each
individual employee who had rights, and we

allowed them to invest on that basis. For
about a month while we were changing our

regulations and giving consideration to the

matter, about forty-five million dollars was

invested in pension funds - of pension funds
was invested. Recently, a fellow by the name
of Curtis, formerly Assistant Secretary of
the Treasury back under Taft's administration,
as I recall, has been selected as counsel for
the Retirement System of the Federal Reserve
Banks, and he has rendered an opinion that

our first decision was illegal, that they

couldn't invest those funds in Savings Bonds,
and they have written us a number of letters,
and we have told them our views and that we
thought that the money was properly invested
and that no subsequent Secretary of the
Treasury would ever change that decision, but
in view of this decision they have had from
Curtis they passed a resolution last week
to redeem two million of the Savings Bonds
on June 1 and six million on July 1.

Now, that may start the log rolling of the

other pension funds and we may get as much as

forty-five million dollars in redemptions in

the next two months. I don't know what that

will do from a public standpoint. It may

scare people who will say, "Well, here people
are redeeming their Savings Bonds.
Now, maybe we can handle it through publicity

as to why. it is being done, I don't know. I
think it is a foolish decision, myself, but
they had an opinion from counsel and there

wasn't anything else to do.
H.M.Jr:

You are not leaving it in my lap, are you?

300

- 11 Bell:

I am just telling you about it in case it comes

up so you will know.

H.M.Jr:

O.K., Dan. Anything else?

Bell:

That is all.

Thompson:

I have a report on the Treasury voluntary

purchase plan.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

Thompson:

It has only been under way three and a half

days in the Treasury, as you know, and we have

a subscription list of sixty-eight percent of
the personnel. Out of nineteen thousand

employees, thirteen thousand have signed pledges.
H.M.Jr:
Thompson:

Isn't that grand?
I think it will be better than that even when
we get our next report.

H.M.Jr:

I think it is grand. Are the other Departments

doing anything?
Thompson:

I don't know.

Graves:

Mr. Secretary, on that point we wanted to get

this plan well established in the Treasury

before we made any suggestions to the other
Departments, but in a few days we want to talk
with you about that and we thought you might

possibly want to mention this to your colleagues
at Cabinet.

H.M.Jr:

But not today.

Graves:

Well, I didn't mean today. In any case, I
think we ought to send a full description of

our plan, when we get around to it, to all the

301

- 12 Departments with the suggestion that they
proceed accordingly.
H.M.Jr:

Fine.

Who is this memorandum from?
Thompson:

This comes from my office. Mr. Schoeneman--

H.M.Jr:

Do you mind just putting your initials on it?
Now let me see what I have got today. I have

got the A. F. of L. at ten fifteen, Harold
graves group at ten thirty, Mr. Gaier at

eleven thirty and Cabinet this afternoon, and
then the farm and so to bed.

All golfers notice that I am leaving this

afternoon to return early Monday morning.

Bell:

There is one other thing. You remember Dean
Acheson wanted you and the Secretary of State

to see the President today. We are not going

to be ready.
H.M.Jr:

And neither is the President. Don't tell them
we are not ready, but the President never will
be ready.

Bell:

I think Monday is a better day.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Bell:

Monday we may be ready. We have got a lot of
conferring to do, I think, before our memorandum
will be agreed upon.

H.M.Jr:

That takes a lot off my shoulders, Dan.
Thank you all.

302
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

June 6. 1941

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

At the Staff meeting this morning I told the Secretary of Sir Frederick
Phillips' request for an appointment on next Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning
for the Secretary to receive Sir Edward Peacock. In accordance with the Secretary's

instructions I telephoned Sir Frederick after the meeting. I told him that the

Secretary was leaving town after the Cabinet Meeting today and would not be back
until Monday. We are not making any appointments for next week until after the
Secretary returns to Washington. I advised against Sir Edward Peacock coming here

for the specific purpose of seeing the Secretary on Monday. I told Phillips that

I would look into the schedule on Monday and then let him know about an appointment for some date after that. This seemed agreeable to Phillips.

mm

303
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON

June 6, 1941.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:

There is herewith submitted the first report of pledges
received and Defense Savings bonds and stamps actually sold
to employees of the Treasury Department in Washington under

the "Voluntary Purchase Plan" which was put into operation,

by your direction, on last Saturday, May 31st.

The report, which covers only 3 days of the Voluntary
Purchase campaign, shows that of the 19,573 employees of

the Department in the District of Columbia, 13,301 persons,

or 68 per cent of the total, have signed pledges under which
they agree to purchase $31,983 in Defense Savings Bonds and
$26,670 in Defense Savings Stamps each month. On an annual

basis, these pledges call for the purchase of over $703,000
a year.

This response is very gratifying, particularly in view
of the short period during which the campaign has been under

way. Organization of a similar effort in the Treasury's

field offices has already begun, and the initial reports of
pledges signed by field employees will be included in the

-2-

304

report to be submitted to you on June 20th.

The prompt participation of such a large percentage of
the personnel within a few days not only indicates a splendid

spirit on the part of the employees generally, but reflects
great credit on the bureau workers who are assisting in handling

the details of this effort.

The

305

SEMI-MONTHLY

REPORT OF PLEDGES AND PURCHASES
TREASURY EMPLOYEES'

VOLUNTARY PURCHASE PLAN

PLEDGES

-

RECEIVED

EMPLOYEES
PREVIOUSLY
REPORTED
PATROLL

PLEDGED TO BE PURCHASED EACH MONTH
PERCENTANE

RECEIVED

LAST REPORT

1. OF TAX RESEARCH

24

24

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,

DIVISION
TIONAL REVENUE

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PARTICIPATION

RELIMENT DISBARKENT
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/
or

TO DATE

1000%

STAMPS

BONOS

PLEDGER

PLEASED
SINCE

REPORTED

PLEASED

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19 DATE

REPORTED

SINCE

LAST REPORT

LAST REPORT

ACTUALLY PURCHASED THROUGH GROUP AGENTS

-

TOTAL BONDS AND STAMPS
PLEASED

PREVIOUSLY

TO BATE

REPORTED

,

BUREAU OR DIVISION

3rd

71

140

12

PLEASED

LAST REPORT

PLEASED

PREVIOUSLY

TO BATE

REPORTED

/
44

BONDS

STAMPS

PURCHASE

PURCHASED

PERSONS

PURCHASED

TO DATE

LAST REPORT

REPORTED

--

100

104

249

were

St

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40.70
12.00

4168

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306

June 6, 1941
11:36 a.m.
Harold

Ickes:

Can you give me some information
about tankers?

H.M.Jr:

Can I do what?

I:

Get me some information about tankers.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I'll do anything that is humanly

I:

Well, you probably have the figures

possible.

over there or can get them. I got

a report yesterday that quite a bunch
of tankers have been tied up in New
York harbor for a number of days

waiting for loads. You see, this

problem means getting more service out

of the - making better use of the

tonnage than we have been doing to

date.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I can find out from my port
captains within an hour or two, or
certainly by this afternoon, every tank
in every harbor in the United States.

I:

And how long it has been there.

H.M.Jr:

And how long it has been there.

I:

That's right. And can you also give
me

H.M.Jr:

Just a minute. I'm just making notes.
And how long it has been there and its
capacity.

I:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that might take a little bit
longer.

I:

No, let me have the other.

307
2H.M.Jr:

All right.

I:

And there is one thing else that you
might have over there, I don't know.

Do you know what American tankers have

been registered for instance in Panama
and Japan and other foreign flags?
H.M.Jr:

I don't know but I can tell you - I'm
sure that if we have it we can get it
for you. We'11 do this all through
Coast Guard.

I:

All right, thanks.

H.M.Jr:

But we can do it - and now I wrote you I sent you my memorandum on that oil

conservation. You ought to get it any
time and I marked it highly confidential
because when I read it I was surprised
at my nerve. (Laughs).
I:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Now the other thing, I've also sent you
a letter you'11 get during the course

of the day - I don't know how it'11 hit
you, but we're putting up a proposal to
you that we - on the possibility of
using a space in front of the Treasury
for bonds in connection with a company
that wants to put up a pavilion.

I:

Uh-huh.

H.M.Jr:

But you get it and study it and see
whether it comes within the sphere of
the Park Service or not.

I:

All right, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

But this other stuff we'll get on it
right away.

I:

Thanks. Good-bye.

308

June 6, 1941

Bear Harold:

The memorandum that I referred to
over the telephone was the one I sent

to the President on July 19, 1940.
I am inclosing a copy herewith for
your very confidential information.

I wish to draw your attention particularly to Paragraph One.

After reading the memo, if you

feel that I can be of assistance to
you I would be glad to have you call
on no.

Sincerely yours,

/s/ Henry
Honorable Harold Inkes,

Secretary of the Interior,
Interior Department,

Washington, D.C.

Sent hymersemper at 1:30P.M.

309

June 6, 1941

Dear Harolds

The memorandum that I referred to
over the telephone was the one I sent

to the President on July 19. 1940.
I am inclosing a copy herewith for
your very confidential information.

I wish to drew your attention parti-

cularly to Paragraph One.

After reading the memo, if you

feel that I can be of assistance to
you I would be glad to have you call
on no.

Sincerely yours,

/s/ Henry
Honorable Harold Inkes,

Secretary of the Interior,
Interior Department,

Washington, D.C.

Sent by messenger
at 1:30 P.M.

310

THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR
WASHINGTON
TH OFFICER

June 6, 1941.

My dear Henry:

I have read with interest your letter of June 6,
to which was attached a copy of your memorandum to the

President under date of July 19. I am very glad indeed
to have this information, which, however, does not surprise no.

Sincerely yours,

Harrelt.Jebs
Secretary of the Interior.

Hon. Henry Morgenthan, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

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June 6, 1941
3:50 p.m.
H.M.Jr:
Harold

Ickee:

Yes.

Who told Cordell that there was a war
on?

H.M.Jr:

(Laughs).

I:

Rip Van Winkle. Rip Van Winkle rubbing
his eyes today.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it was the most amazing thing I

I:

Well, my God!

H.M.Jr:

And I don't think that he got what the
President told him to. Maybe he did.
oh, I won't believe he'll do anything

I:

ever saw.

until he does it.

H.M.Jr:

Because after all what the President
told him to do was to clean up all the
Germans outside of the Embassy. Isn't
that right?

I:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Well, if he does it, I'll buy you the

I:

best drink that you can think of.
All right. I just read your memorandum;
it just came in.

H.M.Jr:

You mean about ......

I:

oil and Japan.

H.M.Jr:
I:

Isn't that a surprising one?
Yes. Let me tell you one.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, sir.

312

-2When Japan invaded Manchukuo, which

I:

was a long time ago, Sir Henry Dedering
of Dutch Shell and Teagle, Standard
of New Jersey came into my office and
we discussed the whole thing and they

told me the whole story of the great
reserves that they were building up
in Japan, the pressure that they put

on the oil companies and they wanted Sir Henry Dedering had just come from
London, he said the British Government

was willing to enter into an agreement
with us to restrict and confine and

if necessary cut off the supply of oil

and gasoline.
H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

I:

The chief suppliers at that time were
Dutch Shell and Esso of New Jersey.

I think I must have called Hull directly
on the thing, took it up with him. He
sent over this fellow Hornbeck and he
went into it. Well, you know what

happened.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah. Well, when I made this suggestion
and was getting somewhere it was Sumner

Welles who killed it.

I:

Yeah. If one doesn't kill it, the other
does, and you'll probably find Sumner
Welles over at the President's office
tomorrow or Monday trying to counteract
what Cordell said today he'd do.

H.M.Jr:

Did you draw that cartoon on the front
page of the Star this evening?

I:

No.

H.M.Jr:

Have you seen it?

I:

No.

H.M.Jr:

(Laughs). Wait until you see it.
It's marvelous.

313

-3-

Is it?

I:

H.M.Jr:

Oh, it's got you leaning up against
the gas tanks saying sorry, no gas

today and it's got a car driving up...
Says what?

I:

HMJr:

It's got a car driving up with a
Japanese as a chauffeur and Cordell
Hull filling the gas tank

I:

Oh, wonderful.

HMJr:

And Sumner Welles saying, any oil,

I:

Wonderful ! Wonderful !

HMJr:

(Laughs)

I:

Well, you know the papers are waking
up now. When I was asked about Japan in my

sir, today.

press conference yesterday, I said
that that was a matter up - that was in
the jurisdiction of the State Department.
"Have you any personal opinions?" - "Well
I probably will have a personal opinion
but I can't discuss any matters that

aren't within my jurisdiction".

HMJr:

I:

HMJr:

Oh

Papers all over the country are taking
it up. They got it sweating now.
Well, Harold, they have today - this
is what the Navy tells us.- two years
supply of high-test gas.

I:

of course they have.

HMJr:

So it's too late again.

I:

That's what Dedering told me way back
years ago that they had a huge reserve

and that they never cut in on that
reserve.

314

-4HMJr:

Well, that's why I told you the
other day that I'm so glad you
are oil administrator and - but
if they do today what Cordell

suggested and he does it, then
will be the most amazed person

I

in the world.
I:

So will I and you noticed the
note there - now I tell you when

Frank Walker becomes an alarmist,
something's wrong.

HMJr:

That's right.

I:

And the whole note through there
and I had - the President's speech
was a distinct diappointment to me.

Then I'm tired of hearing fine words,
I want to see something done.

I:

That's right.
And we aren't doing it.

HMJr:

No. Well

I:

It's awful.

HMJr:

Maybe we'll get some where today.

I:

Well, I hope so. It looks hopeful

HMJr:

anyhow.
HMJr:

It looks most hopeful than for months.

I:

Oh yes.

HMJr:

Yeah.

I:

All right, Henry, goodbye.

315 Form
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Mergenthau
Mr. Haad

Subject: Proposal to Include a Request for Cash Position in
the Monthly Schedules Sent to Banks Requesting the
Detail of Their Government Bond Portfolios
In accordance with your request, we have considered

the advisability of including a statement of cash position

in the monthly schedules sent to banks requesting the detail of their Government bond portfolios. The principal
considerations appear to be as follows:

(1) In the case of commercial banks, the data, if

obtained, would be of greatest value in analyzing the
ability of individual banks to subscribe to Government

securities. The totals would be of doubtful value.

In order to provide adequate material for analysis,

it would probably be necessary to request data on the cash
position of commercial banks under the four subheads of:
(a) required reserves; (b) excess reserves; (c) due from

other banks; and (d) cash in vault. The separation between required and excess reserves would, of course, be
necessary in order to determine the actual free cash resources of any individual bank. The separation between
excess reserves and balances due from other banks would
be necessary for the quite different reason that these
items, while essentially the same from the point of view
of any individual bank, behave quite differently in com-

posite. The more Government bonds any individual bank
buys from its excess reserves the more other banks can
buy. The more Government bonds any bank buys from its

balances in other banks the less other banks can buy. In

the aggregate, all banks could buy an amount of Government bonds equal to perhaps five times the amount or their
excess reserves. Balances due from other banks, on the

other hand, could not, in the aggregate, provide funds for
the purchase of any additional Government securities by
the banking system.

(2) The value of information on cash position as a
means of forecasting the probable future behavior of a
commercial bank with respect to its Government bond portfolio would be greatly circumscribed. This is because:

316
Secretary Morgenthau - 2

(a) The policy of any bank with respect to its
Government bond portfolio will depend in
large part upon expected future changes in

its deposits.

(b) Individual banks differ widely in their

ideas of the proper relationship between

cash, deposits and Government bonds. For

this reason a bank with relatively small
cash holdings may, on the basis of its past

performance, be more likely to purchase
bonds upon any given offering than a bank

with much larger cash holdings. Such policies may, of course, change with time, but
the most reasonable presumption on the 00
casion of any given financing operation is
that the old policy will be continued. Such
individual bank policies could be traced,
however, only after a substantial number of
reports had accumulated, and even then an
adequate analysis would present an almost

insuperable statistical task.

(3) The information now requested on individual issues
is of obvious value to the Treasury and involves no dupli-

cation in reporting from the standpoint of the individual
banks. Individual banks had not reported the detail of their
Government security holdings to any agency prior to the initiation of the Treasury report, and do not now report it to
any other agency.1 For this reason banks generally have
cooperated with the Treasury fully in furnishing the information so far requested.

1

The detailed schedule of Government security holdings
filled in by bank examiners at the time of each examination

might appear to be an exception. This exception is not
important, however, because (1) it applies only to banks
subject to Federal examination; (2) the schedule is
filled in physically by the examiner and so does not
involve a "report" on the part of the bank; (3) the
examinations are infrequent (semi-annual in the case of
national banks, and annual in the case of State member
and insured non-member banks), and (4) the examinations

are as of different dates thereby making the figures
virtually worthless for the purpose of compiling totals.

317
Secretary Morgenthau - 3

It is not certain that equally good cooperation would

be
obtained if information on cash balances was also requested:
(a) There might be some apprehension among

bankers aware of the limited value of the
figures as aggregates, that they were to
be used as a means of checking up on the
transactions of individual banks.

(b) Not only is detailed information on cash

balances furnished at the present time by
each bank subject to Federal examination
to its appropriate supervisory agency upon

the occasion of periodic call reports, but
389 weekly reporting member banks (holding
as of April 30, 1941, about 73 percent of
all the Government securities held by all

commercial banks reporting to the Treasury)
report such information to the Federal Reserve Board weekly, and the data 80 reported
are available as composites with only 5 days
delay. In addition, the Federal Reserve
Banks have available on their own books, information with respect to the total reserves
of each member bank daily and the excess reserves of each member bank not less than

twice each month. The initiation of a

Treasury report on cash position might appear

to the individual banks, therefore, as an un-

necessary duplication in reporting, perhaps
designed primarily as a means of influencing
their future investment decisions.

(4) The above considerations are for the most part
not applicable to mutual savings banks and insurance
companies. This is so for two reasons:

(a) Information on the total cash position of
mutual savings banks and insurance companies is not subject to the same limita-

tions as those applying to commercial banks

as these institutions have no power to

"create deposits".

318

Secretary Morgenthau - 4

(b) The problem of duplication would not be

serious as neither class of institution,
with the exception of certain large life
insurance companies, now furnishes information on its cash position directly to
any Federal agency. 2

In view of these considerations we should recommend,

on balance, against the inclusion, at the present time,
of a request for cash position on the schedules sent to
commercial banks. While most of the considerations
advanced in support of this conclusion do not apply to

mutual savings banks and insurance companies, there does
not seem to be any immediate need that we request infor

mation on the cash position of these institutions at the
present time, inasmuch as the total available funds of
the mutual savings banks are relatively small and the

Treasury already receives a monthly report on the cash
position of 37 large life insurance companies holding
the bulk of all insurance company assets.

2

The data on mutual savings banks, published semi-

annually by the Comptroller of the Currency, are obtained indirectly from the State supervisory authorities, and are available only about four months in
arrears.

TO:

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From: LIEUT. STEPHENS

your
FEDERAL LOAN AGENCY
WASHINGTON

JESSE H.JONES

June 6, 1941

Dear Henry:

With regard to the proposed loan by the

banks and insurance companies to the British-owned
American thread companies, it appears from the
information which we have been able to obtain on

short notice that the RFC could safely afford to

lend as much as $30,000,000 in the expectation that
earnings from the properties would fully amortize
the loan within a reasonable time.

This would provide the British with

$14,000,000 more than the banks and insurance
companies propose to lend.

We will be glad to give prompt consideration to such a loan upon receipt of more definite information.
Sincerely yours,

Administrator

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

alamy

321
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

June 6, 1941
MEMORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY:

Weekly Report - Lease-Lend Purchases

(5/31 - 6/6/41)

Purchases to 5/31/41
Purchases 5/31 to 6/6/41

$ 5,615,931.25
1,391,079.81

Total to 6/6/41

$ 7,007,011.06

Contracts totaling $4,071,218.60 are now being considered
by the Board of Awards and will be cleared today or tomorrow.

These will be included in next week's total.
Requisitions Pending

Cleared by O.P.M.

Awaiting clearance by O.P.M.

Total Pending Requisitions

Estimated Cost

$ 181,054,220.20
16,512,636.00

$ 197,566,856.20

In the total pending requisitions there are several for long

term monthly requirements extending, in many instances, into the
year 1942; zinc, for example 12 months $20,000,000; copper,
months $13,720,000; scrap, 6 months $7,200,000; and pig iron,
6 months $7,680,000; a total for these alone of $48,600,000.
9

R
Attachments-2

Clifton E. Mack
Director of Procurement

REQUISI-

CONTRACT
NUMBER

CONTRACTOR'S NAME

DA-TPS-60

American Airlines, Inc.

DA-TPS-65

Minneapolis-Moline Power

DA-TPS-66

Ingersoll Steel & Disc. Div.

Implement Co.

Borg-Warner Corp.

QUANTITY TOTAL VALUE

TIONER

COMMODITY

U.K.

Airplanes, and Engines

U.K.

Harvesters & Spare Parts

U.K.

Discs, agricultural
Spare parts for Surge

3 ea. $147,750.00
37,358.07
5,000

4,425.00

DA-TPS-68

Babson Bros. Co.

U.K.

DA-TPS-71

Deere & Company

U.K.

Combines

DA-TPS-72

Allis-Chalmers Mfg. Co.

U.K.

Harvesters

DA-TPS-73

J. I. Case Company

U.K.

Combines

DA-TPS-75

Gravely Motor Plow &

U.K.

Tractors

34,836.60

DA-TPS-80

Oliver Farm Equipment Company

U.K.

Agricultural Implements

21,388.61

DA-TPS-81

Oliver Farm Equipment Company

U.K.

Agricultural Equipment

10,703.73

DA-TPS-87

The Massey-Harris Company

U.K.

Combine

DA-TPS-88

Oliver Farm Equipment Company

U.K.

Cultivators

DA-TPS-93

International Harvester

U.K.

Threshers

DA-TPS-99

Chicago Flexible Shaft Co.

U.K.

Agricultural Equipment

1,032.70

DA-TPS-105

Oliver Farm Equipment Co.

U.K.

Agricultural Equipment

2,926.44

Cultivator Co.

Export Company

2,676.00

Milking Machines

6

3,832.50
32,123.28

5

1

20

4

7,875.60

546.76

1,782.00
4,156.12

REQUISI-

CONTRACT
NUMBER

CONTRACTOR'S NAME

DA-TPS-109

Peek & Velsor, Inc.

U.K.

Stramonium

4,480 lbs $

1,254.40

DA-TPS-110

S.B. Penick & Company

U.K.

Oil of Chenopodium

1,120 lbs

2,912.00

DA-TPS-157

Western Electric Co.

U.K.

Cells, Photo-Electric

DA-TPS-170

Commercial Acetylene Supply

U.K.

Cylinders: Acetylene

U.K.

Alcohol, ethyl

TIONER

Co., Inc.

DA-TPS-176

Publicker Commercial Alcohol Co.

COMMODITY

TOTAL PURCHASES 5/31 - 6/6/41

TOTAL VALUE

QUANTITY

50,000

207,500.00

2,000

56,000.00

7,200,000

gals.

810,000.00

$ 1,391,079.81

324

June 6, 1941
10:30 a.m.
RE DEFENSE SAVINGS BONDS

Present:

Mr. Sloan
Mr. Johnston
Mr. Sulds
Mr. Callahan
Mr. Edward
Mr. Graves
Mr. Sparks
Mr. Odegarde
Mr. Mahan

Mr. Powel
Mr. Kuhn

Mr. Houghteling
H.M.Jr:

I just want to tell you gentlemen this, that

I have been eight years in Washington and

four years in Albany and I am fairly immune
now to newspapers and don't let any fellow

write a little article that I am upset and

I am going to make any change in the organization
upset you because the day I want to make any

changes, I don't do it through a newspaper
writer, and with all due respects to Mr. Kuhn.

If they were all like Kuhn, it would be all
right. The point is, quite to the contrary,

I am very, very much pleased and I think we
have got a swell crowd and certainly I am

not conscious of any bickering or any difficulties and I just wanted to let you know

that as far as I am concerned, I meant everything

325

-2that I said in my speech, even though

Ferdie wrote it for me, so don't let any-

thing like Gregory of the New York Tribune
bother you.

Graves:

H.M.Jr:

I thought you might want Mr. Edward to tell
you something first of our bank elections.
You mean he is going to tell me a couple of

good Negro stories?

Graves:

He might do that.

H.M.Jr:

Isn't that the way we get the bank relations?
Have you got a good story?

Edward:

Sure.

Sloan:

Come on up here.

H.M.Jr:

Come on up here and sit down up here. They

Edward:

Well, I hope so. That is what we are after.

tell me you just tell them a good story and
then they sign on the dotted line.

Mr. Secretary, there are nearly ten thousand
banks in the country who are qualified to
sell these Series E bonds, and of course, in

selling the Series E they are also selling
the F and G, as you know by the statistics
that have come in and that you have seen.

These banks have spent hundreds of thousands

of dollars in advertising. Several of them

have spent up to nine or ten thousand dollars

in one or two individual institutions. They
are continuing to do that.

Now, of course, we haven't - this job isn't

finished. There are other banks who have not

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3-

qualified and who should qualify. I have

asked the Federal Reserve Bank - I have asked

Mr. Bell to have the Federal Reserve Bank in
their report this week break down the report
to show what is happening in the individual

states. So far we have been getting it from
the Federal only as to the district. They
are getting it by states.

In the meantime, I have been making some

individual inquiries myself and it would

seem that the State of Georgia, which claims
to be the second home of the great President,

is tailing the nation in the number of banks
that are qualified in proportion to the banks
of the state. Only about ninety-five banks
out of some three hundred sixty -H.M.Jr:

What are we going to do about it?

Edward:

We are going to get them in. As soon as I
get the information, I am going to get after

brother Oatley and several others down there
and tell them to go out into the by-ways and
hedges and ask them to come in to the - to
see the bridegroom. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

Then what happens?

Edward:

We are going to bring them. If they don't
come, we will go get others. Chicago isn't
doing their part. The banks in Chicago in
proportion to the size of the city have done
less advertising, less promotion, I think,
of the program, than any other city of its size
in the country.
I have been around a good many places since you
had me to come up here, and agreed to employ

me at some magnificent salary - and I think
you are being cheated even at that --

327

-4H.M.Jr:

Let me decide that.

Edward:

O.K. Now, there might be one or two things

that could be done to encourage the banks some

in this program and that is, I think Mr. Bell

has probably talked to you about this requirement

that they put up collateral. It really hasn't

made any hardship of any consequence on any

bank, but a great many of them use that as an
excuse, "Well, the Government won't even trust

us to send us a blank bond to sell without

putting up collateral."

Of course, we did write in that provision about
the FDIC insurance up to sixty-five hundred

which took care of a good many of them, a greater
number of them than the larger banks. For those,

putting up collateral wasn't any burden.

On the other hand, the supervising of that

collateral and keeping it all up in shape is
right expensive to the Treasury and the risk
involved is negligible and after you have
thought about it, if you feel like you can
eliminate that collateral requirement on the
basis of allowing banks - bonds somewhat in

proportion -Graves:

Dan feels the same way about it. It is just
the matter of the technical requirements of
the law. If we can find a way out, Dan, I
think, intends to go along with that.

Edward:

If that can be done, it might help. That is
about all I have to say, except this, that it
has come to my attention that on one or two

occasions and even now there are some spasmodic

withdrawals around the country. Something like

these little whirlwinds that you see started
out in the field and they fly up here and fly
out and then they will pop up somewhere else.

328

-5I understand there is some of it going on in

Connecticut right now, and t here has been
some in Los Angeles and in the past there

was some in Cleveland. Evidently it is caused
by Fifth Column talk maybe to some degree and
think Bob Sparks said they had had some
among the Italian element in New York.

I

Sparks:

And Massachusetts.

Edward:

And if - I think it would be well if you would

consider seriously making a statement - I

believe you say Ferdie Kuhn can write some-

thing you can say and if we get Ferdie to
write a statement that we are not only not

going to take anybody's money out of the banks,
that we are not even going to urge them to buy

anything. In other words, just get this fear allay this fear and get it to subside. That
is the only thing that I see right now, Mr.
Secretary, that is really of any consequence.
(Mr. Houghteling entered the conference.)

Graves:

That is the same subject that was discussed

at our nine-thirty meeting this morning.

H.M.Jr:

I know.

Graves:

I might add this to what Mr. Edward has said.
At Dan's suggestion we are having Mr. Irey's
people make an investigation in two or three
communities under cover to try and find out
where these rumors - where this gossip starts.

We think that perhaps it is subversive, that
there are local Fifth Columnists going on.

H.M.Jr:

Really?

Graves:

Yes. That has been suggested to us by certain

banks, that they feel that is the source of

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our difficulty, so that investigation is

now being made in two or three communities.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I think what you have done, Edward, is
simply grand. The fact that we got ten thousand

inside of a month, I think, is all that any

reasonable person could expect and more too,
and I am simply delighted.
Edward:

Well, I am happy that you are satisfied, but
in the meantime, I am not because they all
ought to be in.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I meant every word I said last night
about the bankers. I don't know whether you
heard me or not.

Edward:

Yes, I heard it. I was on a train, but I
had the radio going.

Graves:

This subversive thing you have brought to my

attention in other connections. For instance,
Yorkville. We are having that investigated
right now, and have agents in that community
calling on all the branch banks and the one
branch post office.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

Graves:

We will have a report of it tomorrow. Some

of the other things here - I think Mr. Sloan
might tell the Secretary of our recent
conference with the Post Office Department

people.
Sloan:

Yes. We met with three representatives of
the Post Office Department a few days ago
to discuss with them ways and means in which

the Post Offices could cooperate to a fuller
extent in doing a better selling and merchandising
job on the bonds and the stamps and Harold
Ambrose and Ironsides and Mr. Imus were there

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-7and we had four of our people representing

four different activities on the staff and

we have agreed to draft a memorandum which
Mr. Mahan has in preliminary form now which

we are going to submit to them and they are
going to make suggestions and that will give
us a starting point from which we can make
a request to the Postmaster General and see
whether or not he approves that procedure.

Graves:

Tell him the specific plan you had in mind,
Gene.

Sloan:

Well, the plan is to select certain areas,
perhaps twenty-five cities and some other
rural areas in which we would place in the

hands of every person who has a mail box some

piece of literature and solicitation and order

form from the Department. Every single person
who could be reached in the area and test that
and check it and see what returns are brought
in.

That is one of the things that we were working
on, and some of the others are for improvement

of the displays in the post offices and identification of the points at which the bonds are on
sale, so that people would get there and get
quicker service and so on.

H.M.Jr:

What about that suggestion that was made that
the clerk or somebody come out with a desk

out in the lobby of the post office and have

a desk there? They made that suggestion at
Cabinet the last time I was there two weeks ago.
Sloan:

That didn't come up in our discussions.

H.M.Jr:

Well, the suggestion was made. John Carmody
made the suggestion. Why don't you get a

man with a desk right out in front the way

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-8you have in a bank so you can meet the people
and say, "Come in."
Sloan:

It would be very helpful. It would be a
wonderful thing if we can do it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they made it and Frank Walker said
O.K, but he made the statement there, which
I understand was wrong, that we had asked
them not to push the thing.

Sloan:

All right. We will raise that in this
memorandum,

H.M.Jr:

Will you? Just have a desk right out there

Sloan:

And then Bob Sparks told what they do in the
Bowery Savings Bank, the manner in which they

with a fellow sitting there.

have set up their windows and I think the

Secretary would be interested in knowing how
the Bowery handles it there, Mr. Graves.

H.M.Jr:
Sparks:

I would.

It is all very simple and as I said to these
gentlemen, it is so obvious that I hesitate
to mention it. There is nothing so obscure

as the obvious. We merely faced the question
first by saying that the best personnel must
be selected and properly trained and instilled

with the spirit of helpfulness so that a person
coming into the bank would have the feeling

that they were really doing a job for the

nation and a job for themselves; and second,
we took the most conspicuous windows in the
bank.

The minute the public comes in from the main
entrance the four windows facing the main
entrance are the windows that have been
selected. Those windows are equipped with

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little electric signs with replaceable letters
so we labeled them "Defense Bonds and Defense

Stamps. Then we merely took some small

American flags of good quality, but small,

silk flags not any higher than that (indicating)
on their staffs and placed two at the top of
these windows and then we took the floor men,

who are the first approach, and we quickly

decided that they never could become experts

in finance so we instructed them to take anybody who showed any interest in the thing and
smile and tell them how happy they were to be
of service and escort them to the proper person

who was trained to help them.

Now, we have a peak business that comes at

the noon hour, and it is impossible to keep
lines away from the windows at the noon hour.

We came to the conclusion that a reasonable
number of people in front of the window was

good psychology. It would show that the

Defense Bonds were in demand, but that too
many would be discouraging, so we had the

floor men - gave them little cards with

numbers and the minute there is more than

four or five people around the window, the
floor man just gives a number to the person
and escorts them over to a seat and asks them
to have a seat and as soon as that person's
number is ready, the floor man personally
escorts the lady or gentleman up to the window
and tells them how happy we are that they are
entering into the defense program and they

are taken care of in that way. It is rather
simple, but it seems to work.

H.M.Jr:

It sounds very nice, though. It is something
new, as far as I am concerned.

Graves:

I think Mr. Powel might tell us about his work.
I would like him especially to show some of
the pamphlet material that is now beginning.

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- 10 Powel:

Can't I start by thanking you for what you

Sloan:

Yes, it was magnificent.

Powel:

We wished that on you, and your next performance is scheduled for July 2, when we
open a radio hour and there you will have
less time and can again report the events of
June as you see fit.

H.M.Jr:

Why July 2?

Powel:

Because that is the Wednesday evening on
which we have been given an hour on the

did for us last night?

National Broadcasting Company for thirteen

weeks.

H.M.Jr:

And you want me to open that?

Powel:

I do.

H.M.Jr:

Where would that be?

Powel:

It can be piped in from anywhere you want.

H.M.Jr:

Can I choose my own opera singer?

Powel:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

I signed all those letters this morning.

Powel:

Can I say without flippancy --

H.M.Jr:

Somebody is picking some good ones, that is
good voices.

Powel:

Can I say that we have to conjure a little

with your name with Mickey Rooney, Judy Garland,
and others whom we have to call up or telegraph
inviting them to appear on such and such dates.

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Dietz has a schedule and if I can say at
the request of the Secretary of the Treasury,

I can handle it for you.

H.M.Jr:

You will do what?

Powel:

At the request of the Secretary of the Treasury
you are invited to appear July 2.

H.M.Jr:

Oh no. I don't know yet what you are doing
with that damn program.

Powel:

May I report on it now?

H.M.Jr:

I wish you would.

Powel:

We have a director. Mr. Dietz has kindly

consented to be a committee of one responsible

for all details. Under him we have engaged

a production manager, Monroe.
H.M.Jr:

Who is he?

Powel:

He is a man who has had much experience with

the Fred Allen hour, which it is, as you know.
Fred Allen will master of ceremonies the first

evening. He will cut his vacation short. He
doesn't want to, but he will.
And to prevent it being a benefit, just oleo
stars, the continuity has been written, which

you can see beforehand showing how the whole

hour will lead to the next hour next week and
to a climax on the thirteenth week.
H.M.Jr:

I see. Now, this production manager, who

Powel:

Callahan?

Callahan:

He works for the Buchanan Agency and he has
been running the Texaco program through five

does he work for?

years.

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- 12 H.M.Jr:

He has been doing that work?

Callahan:

Yes. He is a thoroughly competent man and

what
he really is doing is continuing his
work.
H.M.Jr:

And is that the agency I wrote a letter to?

Callahan:

No, that is another one. That other agency

was in connection with the short announcements.

H.M.Jr:

But this is the man who has been running --

Callahan:

The Fred Allen show for the past five years
and other shows or networks for the past
five years.

H.M.Jr:

Do we pay him?

Callahan:

Yes, sir, he is on the payroll.

Powel:

We pay him but not the agency.

Callahan:

That is the only payment in connection with

Powel:

Now, is that enough detail for the moment?
There is a tremendous report, if you care

the whole show.

to read it.

H.M.Jr:

No. But can I - are you going to - is anybody
going to report on my idea that I am going to
keep riding you about my little plays?

Kuhn:

I think Mr. Powel can tell you about that.
The ideas have been tried out and I think

used, the idea of the little radio playlets
on civil liberties.

Perhaps you would tell the Secretary what
you told me the other day.

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- 13 Powel:

For some time I had a relationship with the
Anti-Defamation League of B'Nai Brith as
Public Relations Counsel and that was one

of numerous things done on the air at their

behest.
H.M.Jr:

Is it any good?

Powel:

Sure, and it can be done again.

H.M.Jr:

Well, can't that be done independent of this

Powel:

Texaco hour?

Absolutely, and will be. We have it in hand

now.

H.M.Jr:

Well, the thing - the idea that I had, unless
you people don't want me to do it or don't

think we will have it, I would like to write

a letter to Orson Welles and ask Orson Welles
whether he won't write and produce this thing

for the radio and for the movies with his

Mercury Players and then when we are through

with it we can turn it over to the Army and
if the Army decides to have a theater at every
cantonment, they can have a traveling company

that travels across the country and use the
same thing.

Now, there is talk of - Irving Berlin is

talking of having a company that is going
to travel from one end of the country to

the other and Sherwood would know about it
and certainly they, as much or more than the

rest of the public, ought to know, "Well,

that is this thing that we are fighting for
to protect?"

I feel very strongly. I put something like

this up to Lothian last year and got nowhere.

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I wanted the English to start with the

Magna Charta and come down to date and so

forth.

Powel:

H.M.Jr:

If you wish to do that, sir, of course we
are perfectly willing.
I wish you would think about it and then if

you think we will have it, I would just sit

down and write a letter to Orson Welles,
because after all, he has unusual - he is the
only man that has been a success on the radio
and the movies and in the theater. He knows
all three techniques.
Kuhn:

Harford, the fact that it has been done
before wouldn't spoil it now?

Powel:

We showed the Pilgrims landing at Jamestown that had been shown. Correct Jamestown to
wherever they did land.

Johnston:

Plymouth.

Powel:

Plymouth. We showed every event in American

history from Barbara Fritchie to Roger Williams.
It has been good medicine whenever it was done.

It is done in paintings, plays, playlets and
all kinds of things.
H.M.Jr:

It is this series they are running on Sundays

in PM that gave me the idea, and they are doing

it in quite a novel way. The one last week

was by the man who wrote the "Hudson River.'

He is doing it for them, I think. Did you
see that?

Powel:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Well, will you come back at me with this?

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- 15 Powel:

I will, sir. Do you want a word about
other activities than this?

H.M.Jr:

If you please. You mean on the Texaco hour?

Powel:

No. Let's say a word about Mail Order. Last
year Mail Order issued from this department

with the post office sales sold a billion

dollars worth of bonds, nothing else, and
we are now making tests. That is to say, we
mail out ten thousand letters signed by one

man and ten thousand by another. Ten thousand
offering the G Bond and ten thousand the E

Bond. Ten thousand offering all three. That
is under the direction of Mr. Blair of the

New Process Company who will be here next week,
and from whom we have taken a man, Buckley,

on full time.

Those tests are in progress and we can then

at any time turn on the full ten, twelve million
of the list, which in Mr. Blair's opinion is
the best list in the world.

H.M.Jr:

What list is that?

Powel:

Internal Revenue. No private company has any

such mailing list as that in quantity or
quality or up to date.

I would like to say a word about the press.
This is pleasant.
H.M.Jr:

This is what?

Powel:

Pleasant.

H.M.Jr:

It is all pleasant. This is the pleasantest

Powel:

Well, I just want to present you - you know

hour I have each week. (Laughter)

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- 16 on the twenty-sixth of May you wrote them

a nice letter. This is the replies to date.
They are still coming faster than we can

read them. There was one unfavorable one

in three hundred eighty-eight. I will leave

you to find it or guess who.
H.M.Jr:

All right.

Powel:

Three
shirts. hundred eighty-seven will give you their

H.M.Jr:

Who is the so and so?

Powel:

One guess.

H.M.Jr:

I wouldn't know.

Powel:

Then I won't tell you.

H.M.Jr:

Why not?

Powel:

Chicago Tribune.

Houghteling: I could have guessed that.
Powel:

And at that it is a nice letter. (Laughter)
That, I think, Mr. Secretary, indicates how
we will proceed, just as we did with the

radio. We are making them a little tiny daily

feature with questions and answers, a question
on defense bonds. We are mailing that to them

on regular schedule. It takes no space that

costs them anything. It is a filler. We are
asking them to run it every day and report on
it. We are starting that on the sixteenth of

June in fifteen thousand newspapers and trade
papers so we will have a newspaper coverage

equal to that of the radio coverage.

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- 17 H.M.Jr:
Powel:

Oh, I love that one from McCormick. If I
show that to the President he will use it.
Please don't show it until we answer it.

I know the answer.
H.M.Jr:

Because if I show it to the President he will
use it, he or Harold Ickes.

Powel:

But they are just swell, hundreds of them.

H.M.Jr:

But the stupidity of a man like "Birdie" McCormick
is magnificent.

Powel:

H.M.Jr:

He would admit it, too.
That is nice.

Powel:

I think that is swell. I have never seen

anything like it in thirty years. I think

if you would be kind enough to let me have
them back, I will answer them personally.
Don't you think we ought to?
H.M.Jr:

Oh yes, definitely.

Powel:

Now, sir, if you are still patient I will
show you some posters.

H.M.Jr:

O.K.

Powel:

In the first place, we made one. A man in the
Bureau who made the stamp made that poster.
Then Olin Dows' came along.

H.M.Jr:

Roach made that?

Powel:

Roach made it.

H.M.Jr:

Why don't I write him a letter thanking him?

Powel:

You did.

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- 18 Graves:

You did. (Laughter)

Powel:

And it is the stamp that might have "America
on Guard"on it.
Then a great many volunteers made them. For
example, here the Massachusetts Savings Bank
made them and paid for them and stuck them
up.

I just carried that one across the street
under my arm. I suppose I have twenty.

Now, Mr. Roach has made another with a sketch

on it and he wasn't asked to make it, he just
did it from the goodness of his heart and
I thought it was very sweet of him. A sketch.

Then Mr. Dows had a little prize contest,

you remember, won by Henry Billings. A more

glittering silver dollar. It isn't finished.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, I love that.

Powel:

Don't you like that?

H.M.Jr:

How do you like that, Peter?

Odegarde:

It is not thrilling.

H.M.Jr:

It is not good?

Odegarde:

It is not thrilling. I think it is good.

Powel:

So that is in the --

H.M.Jr:

Well, now wait a minute. I just want to

argue with Odegarde a minute. Do you think
we are not up with the times?

Odegarde:

I think it fits in very well with the type
of appeal we have been making, which has been

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primarily to buy a share in America. This

fits in very well with that.

H.M.Jr:

I think it is all right for the time being.

Odegarde:

I think we can do better in the future.

Powel:

Now, sir, on that line, about twenty-six big

companies have made them for us. I indicated

one. I don't think you have seen these. They
have kidded their own slogans?

H.M.Jr:

Kidded, is that what you call it? Created?

Powel:

Parodied their own slogans.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, I see.

Powel:

There is an ad by a bank which says, "Uncle

Sam is too modest. We ought to really let
the world know how good we are."

So one of our friends went around among manu-

facturers and I would like to show you these.

Royal Typewriter, as you know, is the world's

number one typewriter.

Here it is writing a bond, "World's number
one bond."

This is red, white and blue. It says it is
contributed by the Royal Typewriter.

Each of those were run fifty thousand copies
and were given to the salesmen. That was

the first print-off.

They get them quite cheaply, because twenty

times fifty, you see, is a good press run.

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- 20 H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Powel:

And some of them are intensely amusing, none

of which I happen to have with me. These are
just the early ones. There is "God Bless

America" by the Simmons Bed, you see. Now,

remember, these will be in full colors.

Life magazine, among others, is so keen on
this that they wish to reproduce them when we
get some of the best ones.
You know Sherwin-Williams paint to cover the

earth. Here is theirs. The idea of that is

that the salesmen go in with these under their

arms as something new and get the dealer to
put them up. Some are in hardware stores,
some are in grocery stores, some in cigar
stores, and everywhere.

This is on newsstands. This is Jiggs and

Maggie on a rainy day.
H.M.Jr:

Buy a what?

Powel:

Buy United States Defense Bonds for a rainy

day. You will see that on these things. That
is where the salesman will put it.

H.M.Jr:

I see, these are all done--

Powel:

By the company, paid for by them.

H.M.Jr:

But I mean the features, this is designed by
them?

Powel:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

They have done this themselves?

Powel:

The company has done it, paid for the art work
and are about to put up a million of them all
over the country in their own respective dealers'

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- 21 stores, costing us nothing, you see, and
giving the public a great smile because it
identifies these familiar trade markswith
Defense Bonds and it is called Industrial
Cooperation Service. Then it can go into
as many hundred million--

H.M.Jr:
Powel:

Have you shown these around?

No, sir, nobody else has seen them except

Mr. Kuhn.
Kuhn:

Harford, could you tell the Secretary some
of the other slogans?

H.M.Jr:

You haven't sold me yet.

Powel:

Well, Dutch Cleanser's slogan--

H.M.Jr:

I mean this whole thing. I am just thinking.
I am not sold on the idea yet.

Powel:

These people wish to do something for the
program. The best thing they can do for the

program at this stage is give it publicity.

They are not giving themselves any publicity.
They are just signing as the person who gave

it. They are giving their space and the

message to the Defense Bond program besides

the radio time and the amusing thing is
that every slogan fits Defense Bonds as well
as it fits them. Old Dutch Cleanser chases
dirt and the Bonds chase debt.

Maxwell House Coffee which is "Good to the

last drop," becomes "Good to the last cent,"
and some of them are amazingly ingenious,

and there is a smile, and I think it shows
that the industrial leaders--

H.M.Jr:

Let Odegarde get a reaction on that.

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- 23 Powel:

Do you want it now or later.

H.M.Jr:

Any time. I mean, is the thing all set? Has
it gone? I mean, supposing I didn't like it.

Powel:

About half a million of them have been ordered
and what you are seeing is simply black and

white.
Kuhn:

They haven't been ordered by us, Harford,
they have been ordered by the different com-

panies.
Powel:

No, they are given to us and posted for us by
these different companies, and I think where
you get a good one, you get a very, very ap-

pealing thing. I think that Simmons Bed is
a very appealing thing.

Odegarde:

The Packard Car, have you got that one here?

Powel:

The Packard Car is "Ask the man who owns
one.

Graves:

No, Buick. Oh, no, I am wrong.

Powel:

It all comes back to their wish to take this
into the area where they deal.

H.M.Jr:

You don't think it is cheapening the thing too
much?

Powel:

Not a bit.

Odegarde:

It isn't if we can keep control over the copy.
The Packard Car one, I think, is a beautiful
one.

H.M.Jr:

Where is it?

Powel:

It isn't in there. I just had a few.

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- 24 Kuhn:

It is no different from what the banks have
been doing for us all over the country, put-

ting our message in paid advertisements which
they pay for in the newspapers and these are
contributed advertisements of the same kind.
H.M.Jr:

I think you have got to watch it.

Powel:

Yes, sir, we are very careful to O.K. every
one.

Odegarde:

Well, you don't want to have Maxwell House

Coffee, for example, saying that the United

States Defense Bonds are as good as Maxwell
House Coffee or Maxwell House Coffee is as
good as the United States Defense Bond, but

you can avoid that by having careful editorial
supervision of the copy.

Powel:

So with that--

H.M.Jr:

Who is doing this for you?

Powel:

Paul Warrick.

H.M.Jr:

Who is he?

Powel:

He is an old New York writer, advertising man.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I would like to watch it as it goes along.

You could kill it at any time if it got out of

hand?
Powel:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

But it can't get out of hand.

Powel:

No, sir.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

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- 25 Kuhn:

Harford--

Powel:

For instance, the liquor industry were very
keen to put these up in bars and I just simply
told all the four big liquor companies that
they couldn't do it that way. We would have
some other participation for them.

H.M.Jr:

That is good. We have got to watch it. And
then as each one is done, I would - I would

like to see it.

Powel:

Would you?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I would.

Powel:

Now, may I finish?

H.M.Jr:

Please.

Powel:

You have heard from the Post Office. Mr.

Mahan told you a little bit. Mr. Sulds is

continuing with foreign language stations.
Is there anything new to say about that, Mr.
Sulds?

Sulds:

I have the English script of Court Sforza

that I told you about the last time. I have
a copy here for you. This is the English
script of Mr. Paderewski's Polish talk this
Sunday. In many respects that is more important than his talk in English, because it is

based on the President's talk. We have
pamphlets on it, also.
Powel:

Now for Mr. Johnston's department we made

fourteen pamphlets. I don't know whether you

have room for this kind of thing.
H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

Powel:

But there, for example, is the manual instructions

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- 26 for anybody who gets on our staff. That is
the charter of the thing.
Graves:

That is chiefly for state committees, these

honorary state committees.
Powel:

Here is your speech and the President's

speech and five official papers that tell the
whole story. These print orders run from a
few thousand to twenty or thirty million.

That is a limited edition. Here is the

invoices and press, newspaper editorials

from every state in the Union, and I won't

bore you with them, Where is Paderewski,

have you got him?
Sulds:

I just did.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I have got that.

Powel:

Where is the Secretary himself: I think you
were on that. There is a wet proof, but that
makes a very good thing to send to stations
when we get inquiries, to give away, And

there are fourteen of those in all, including

pamphlets addressed to various kinds of farmers,

dairy farms in the north and other farms in the
south, pamphlets to the workers, pamphlets to

the General Federation of Women's Clubs who

have given this extraordinary help.
H.M.Jr:

I am impressed with this.

Powel:

It is all done by the Government Printer.
Mr. Giegengack has worked like a beaver.

H.M.Jr:

He is a good guy.

Powel:

I would be glad if you would write him a note.

We would appreciate it.

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- 27 H.M.Jr:

I have written him a lot of notes, but it is
all right. He is known around here as Giggy.
I will write Giggy again.

Powel:

Now, finally, he is the printer of magazines
that aggregate twenty-seven million circulation a year. He has sent them all to me so
that we may get on the back covers, like the
Readers Digest. Mr. Hall has devised a little
imprint thing made from the poster. That is
going on the Treasury paper and form and it
goes to all the Government departments and to

the printers all over the United States. So
we hope to get that in astral figures.
We are on most house organs now.

There is the botanist. Here is your friend,
Stewart.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know him.

Powel:

Oh, yes.

H.M.Jr:

How do I know him?

Powel:

Oh, I know you know him. He is Mr. Strauss'

sister's son, age thirty. He gave us this

back cover, and many others have given back
covers.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know him personally.

Powel:

That is Stewart. He sells that in bulk to
schools.

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Strauss called me up and I thought it was
something - I very seldom answer the phone at

the house. He wanted me to help his son-inlaw get some of this advertising. That was
several months ago. It was an amazing conversation.

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- 28 Powel:

You have given me two personal jobs to do for

you, and I have done them, and I will report
to you.

H.M.Jr:

What is that?

Powel:

One was on the comparative amount of radio
time we are getting as compared with other
Government departments. I am prepared to report
on that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, go ahead.

Powel:

In the last week on the biggest independent

station in the country we asked for forty
minutes and got it all. Twelve other

Government departments asked for six hours

and got half of it.
H.M.Jr:

I see.

Powel:

That ratio I have checked with the little
stations and the chains and it is substantially
accurate all over.

H.M.Jr:

And what was the other thing I asked you?

Powel:

I don't dare bring it up here.

H.M.Jr:

No?

Powel:

Mr. Mahan, have you got a schedule?

H.M.Jr:

Oh, on advertising?

Powel:

Yes. You know Mr. Mahan was advertising
manager of Westinghouse before he came here.

H.M.Jr:
Powel:

He is going to be out of luck on this.
You asked me to turn it in. If you wanted,

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Mr. Secretary, a full coverage job, I made

the schedule on plain paper. It is correct

and accurate, and you would cover every

place in the country.
H.M.Jr:

It is all worth while.. I am very much

pleased with all those pamphlets.
Graves:

And that is only the beginning in the pamphlet
department. We have many other things. I
would like, Mr. Callahan, if you please,
Harford, to tell us about the Standard Oil

of New Jersey thing. I have the letter here
to the Secretary of the Interior. Would you
mind telling about that?
Callahan:

Standard Oil Company of New Jersey, from Maine
to Louisiana, has about eighteen thousand

gas stations. For the past three years they

have been selling at cost, glass banks to
get people to save in them.
H.M.Jr:

Glass?

Callahan:

Glass banks. You drop pennies or quarters or
whatever you want to in them. They have got-

ten rid of three million of them. It has

been tremendously successful. Beginning on

July 4, they are going to give the banks
out again. Around each bank will be a slogan,
"Save For Devense, Buy Defense Bonds," If and

you will put pennies in the bank or quarters
and they will tell you how many pennies and

how many quarters will fit in each bank to
buy a Bond. They will plug that for an
indefinite period on thirty-four radio
stations, the biggest in the East and in the
South.

H.M.Jr:

Esso Reporter?

Callahan:

Esso Reporter, four times a day, twice on

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Sunday. It is one of the biggest radio
users in America. It is a tremendous job.
And in addition they are trying to get eighteen
thousand of their gas stations to put in

window displays of these banks. Now, they

make this suggestion, that they build a glass
house and they build it over here on Pennsylvania Avenue across from the Willard
Hotel in the vacant space over there between
the Willard Hotel and the Department of
Commerce between Fourteenth and Fifteenth,

a very attractive place, built of these
glass banks. Incidentally, there is no
advertising display. They will have a red,

white, and blue awning over it, and they
will broadcast news every hour on the hour,
or rather broadcast it over loud speakers.

In addition, they will have people in there

selling stamps, and they have asked us whether

we would - if we could get permission for
them to do that. We have a suggested pic-

ture right there of what they would like to

do.

Now, we would like, if it could be done, to do

it, and I think they will repeat it in a

number of other cities in the East.
H.M.Jr:

Have we got to get this by Harold Ickes?

Callahan:

You are quite right, sir.

Graves:

We have been in touch with the National Park
Service about this, and they have asked to

have a formal letter.

H.M.Jr:

What does Harold say?

Graves:

It hasn't gone to him.

H.M.Jr:

Have you talked to Burlew?

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- 31 Graves

No, I haven't. They asked to have a formal

letter. I will talk with Burlew. I will
be glad to.

H.M.Jr:

You know Burlew?

Graves:

Very well.

H.M.Jr:

Don't you think it would be good to soften

him up a little bit?

Graves:

I think if you will sign the letter, I will

H.M.Jr:

How was the Park Service on this?

Graves:

They have supervision--

H.M.Jr:

I mean, have you got a commitment that if
Ickes says, "Yes -

Graves:

Well, I think that goes without saying. They

talk to Burlew and send it to him.

simply said that they would have to have--

Callahan:

All requests must be passed by Mr. Ickes.

H.M.Jr:

Would there be any advertising stands on it?

Callahan:

No, except on the banks and that is about a

half inch, and you would have to get right

on top of them to read them, and they would
advertise them on thirty-four programs on
all of their stations and say, "When you
get to Washington, visit our glass houses."
There is no money they would make out of it.

H.M.Jr:

I know.

Callahan:

It is a promotional stunt pure and simple.

H.M.Jr:

What are all these guns and things?

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- 32 Callahan:

Well, we hoped if we get the glass house down
there, maybe we can show them something

else. We can put up a gun and say, "Well,

iforyou
buylike
Bonds,
a gun
this.'it will help buy this gun
Powel:

We can show the gun in terms of Bonds. The
ten-cent stamp buys five bandages.

Callahan:

The Army and Navy and Marine Corps have dis-

plays in various parts of the country. There

was one in Times Square. We have no displays anywhere.

H.M.Jr:

That is all right. The worst Harold can say
is "No," but I do think if you could do this
through Burlew.

Graves:

I will do that. I think we ought to hear from

Mr. Houghteling about his work with our national
organizations.

Houghteling: Well, we are plugging along. We are getting an
awfully good response from the labor unions,
which is my particular province, and we are
getting along with the matter that we spoke
of at the last meeting I was present at and

that is this question of payroll allotment

plans were labor asks the company to put such

plans into effect. The Railroad Brotherhoods
have come in strong in favor of cooperation

with the pay offices of the railroad in that
connection and the Association of American

Railroads on the other hand has gotten their
member roads to agree to such a plan. That

is going through very well, and that is a
very good start on that payroll allotment
plan, which is the most practical plan for
systematic saving, I think, for salaried

people and wage earners, and I am working
on one or two other systematic savings plans

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for labor unions, too. I am getting out a

memorandum we can use for them. My desk

is piled high with those who are sending me
in the names and addresses of the heads of

their local unions who will undertake to

distribute these pamphlets to the American

worker. We are also contacting all sorts of
organizations, making speeches at meetings

and conventions and trying to get - enlist
the national organizations with an idea that
as we do so we can pass their state and
local organizations where they divide up
into state organizations, as many of them

do, over to the - to Mr. Gail Johnston's
state system of organization, thereby
getting out to the organizations through
their members.

H.M.Jr:

Is Gail Johnston still ahead of you or are

you caught up with him?
Houghteling:

I think we are just in step, side by side,

now. (Laughter) We have signed a treaty of
navigation.

Johnston:

I think so.

H.M.Jr:

I think it is wonderful the way they are com-

ing in. I am delighted.
Houghteling: It is very impressive.
H.M.Jr:
It is so nice to be on a basis with the labor

unions that everything is lovely and you don't

have to worry whether they are going to

strike or not. It is nice to have one depart-

ment in Washington that can have that rela-

tionship. I think it would be very useful.

Houghteling: Well, I haven't had a discordant note in the

labor field at all.

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- 34 H.M.Jr:

It is fine.
What is next, Harold?

Graves:

Gail Johnston, our field organizations.

Johnston:

I can bring you up to date briefly.
As you know, we have organizations started or

going in twenty-two states. There are nine
state committees, completed and that is

practically nine state organizations, about
ready to go. Seventeen governors in these
twenty-two states have accepted your invi-

tation to serve, and we are pushing right on
into other states as rapidly as is possible.
The administrators in eleven states, adminis-

trators for eleven states, met here last

Thursday and they were quite enthused with

a full day of sales congressing, if we might
express it that way, in which Mr. Graves and
every one in our Department and Mr. Powel's
Department and Mr. Houghteling's Department

participated and told them what we were try-

ing to do, and they left here enthusiastic.

We have had reports from a number of them
which were very, very encouraging.

To see that these states get good service,
we are training a number of men who will be
responsible for various sections of the
country. These men, we hope, will know
the plan from A to Z and will serve these
people wisely and well.
I might comment here that I have visited
quite a number of states myself. There
is one thing that stands out in my mind

as I go around and meet these businessmen
and women and labor leaders and different

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characters and leaders in the states. They

are a hundred percent - almost a hundred percent behind this national defense program.

As one man in Detroit put it, he said, "By
God, this is our country and he is our
President," and he said, "I may have fought
him last year, but I am for him now a
hundred percent, and that is the attitude
you find from Mississippi to Missouri to
Michigan, Connecticut, to different parts
of the country, and it is very, very encouraging.

We have no difficulty getting people to serve
as volunteers in this thing. They seem to
believe in it and they are very enthusiastic
about it.
Reports are coming in regularly from these

various states and it is all very encouraging. We are pushing three big avenues

of mart. The first is, of course, through
the banks and the post offices.

H.M.Jr:

May I just interrupt you a minute?

Johnston:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

What luck have you had with, say, General
Motors?

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- 36 Johnston:

I heard from Mr. Iseby and he advised that he

had a meeting with the leading industrialists
in Detroit. Mr. Ford was there, a representative of General Motors was there, representatives

of Chrysler, representative of Burroughs Adding
Machine. There were about twenty big companies,
Briggs Body.

H.M.Jr:

Ford came himself?

Johnston:

Edsel came himself and they have all agreed

to go along with a savings plan.

Then in addition to that, the unions on the

other hand had put their stamp of approval on
the thing, so Mr. Iseby told me, and it made
a very fine working arrangement between the
two of them.

H.M.Jr:

Could I get some sort of thing in the way of
a list of companies as you add them?

Johnston:

Yes, sir, we are going to put them in our

H.M.Jr:

I haven't gotten letters two or three. Everybody
gets it but me.

Johnston:

Three isn't out. Two is out.

Graves:

You got two.

H.M.Jr:

I haven't got it. I have cleared all my mail.
Well, here it is right here. I will give you

Johnston:

letter.

two right there. We are not putting the names

of these companies in until we see some evidence

of what they are doing. When we get a plan that

is written up, we know that it is satisfactory
and then we write to them and ask these people

for their permission to send their plan broad-

cast around through the country and it makes

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fine advertising.
H.M.Jr:

Well now, have you circulated that amongst
the nine-thirty group?

Graves:

Well, I am not sure that I have. We did, how-

ever, send that as well as No. 1 to the members
of the Cabinet.

H.M.Jr:

Including the President?

Graves:

We didn't send anything to the President.

H.M.Jr:

That was the one person that I wanted. I

Graves:

I will send that right away.

H.M.Jr:

Fix me up a letter to the President. I didn't

Graves:

Yes. I overlooked that. You signed letters

H.M.Jr:

I want the President and Vice-President par-

Johnston:

We designed this as simply a kind of a house
organ where these men out in the field can

did want a letter to the President.

think there was one.

to all members of the Cabinet.

ticularly to get it.

have their say. It is really for them and
eventually we hope that it will work into
that kind of a basis.

H.M.Jr:

Put Archie MacLeish on that list, too, will
you?

Graves:

Well, we sent him one with your card, but I

H.M.Jr:

That is all right if he got it with the card.

will see that he gets a letter.

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- 38 Now, let me just check. What about letters
to the Postmasters, a letter like this news

letter.

Graves:

That is one of the things --

Johnston:

Mr. Mahan, I think, is working on it.

Mahan:

That is one of the things that is planned --

Graves:

We have it in the work stage, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Is there some way of rewarding the postmasters
or rating them?

Mahan:

That was talked about in the meeting and it
was generally agreed that it was a good idea
and If we could work out some competition

among them by different classifications, that
it would be very, very helpful to them.

Sloan:

George Haas is working out your monthly report,
Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Go ahead, please.

Johnston:

I was almost through. I wanted to tell you
something of the methods of marketing.

The banks and financial institutions, we feel,
can do three things. Mr. Sparks and I have
been working quite closely and Mr. Edward,

the three of us, on this plan.

One is a bank depositors draft plan whereby
you can tell your bank that you would like

to have a bond purchased each month or each
day, as Mr. Edward over there has done, and

the banks simply debit your account and it

is amazing how popular that has become with
a great many individuals.

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- 39 We are publishing in the news letters some of
the forms and then we shall have a form of
our own to suggest to them so they can drop

it in their reports to their depositors each

month and all they have to do is just sign
a card and send it back and that will automatically get them to buying a bond every
month or say every three months.
Edward:

Here is an advertisement here.

Johnston:

That is fine. Mr. Edward has got it into
the Bankers' Magazine.

H.M.Jr:

That is wonderful. I am afraid I am going to
have to stop. We will have to ke ep this to
an hour, Graves, so next week I will put you
(Johnston) on first.

Johnston:

That is all. I have given you enough for

next week.

H.M.Jr:

We will do it again next week. Thank you
all. I am very much pleased, delighted.

Johnston:

Thank you, sir.

Sloan:

Thank you, sir.

m mahan an

m Powel's outfit

ADVERTISING PLAN
FOR DEFENSE SAVINGS BONDS AND STAMPS

Any advertising plan for Defense Savings
Bonds and Stamps must be carefully considered

on the basis of the following major media which
might be used.
1. RADIO.
2. DAILY NEWSPAPERS.
3. COUNTRY AND SUBURBAN WEEKLY NEWSPAPERS.
4. MAGAZINES.
5. OUTDOOR POSTERS.
6. CAR CARDS.
7. MOTION PICTURES.

Summarized on the following pages is brief,
basic information on each media together with

the cost of a reasonable year-round advertising
campaign of national scope, using all media.

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including time and talent, would amount to
approximately $100,000.

While these network shows would retain the
same talent and program idea, they would be
staggered over a 13-week period on each network,
thereby securing an over-all coverage of 52 weeks.
52 weeks - 4 networks - half-hour

nighttime period to be selected -

Total Cost

$400,000

TOTAL COST RADIO -

13 weeks - Spot Announcements on
750 Stations

52 half-hour programs on 4 networks $887,500
NEWSP RS

Metropolitan Dailies
287 Daily newspapers in 370 cities over
25,000 population account for more than 75

percent of the total circulation of daily newspapers published in the United States. Total
circulation, 32,180,041. Rate per line, $69.34.
The following schedule would give weekly

frequency in reasonable size space, in these 287
papers:

26 - 300 line ads
26 - 200 line ads
Total Cost - Metropolitan Dailies - $901,420.

-2RADIO

Spot Announcements

There are 787 radio stations in operation in
the United States - 37 are non-commercial - the
remaining 750 sell commercial time.

It is estimated that the average cost of a
one-minute announcement daytime is $10 and nighttime

is $20. To use all 750 stations for a one-minute
spot daytime would cost $7,500 and nighttime $15,000.
A minimum schedule of spot radio would consist
of 13 weeks of announcements, staggered over a 12

months period on all 750 stations. In other words,
each station would receive, during the year:
13 weeks - 1 daytime spot per week,
Thursday or Friday - Total Cost $97,500.

13 weeks - 2 nighttime spots per week,
Thursday and Friday - Total Cost $390,000.

Total Cost Spot Radio - 12 months - $487,500.
Network Programs

There are four major networks - all of which
have been equally cooperative - to be considered for
this program.

It is estimated that the average cost of a
13-week half-hour nighttime program on each network,

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Small City Dailies
There are 1376 Daily newspapers in 1059

cities under 25,000 population. Total Circulation,
8,923,406. Rate per line, $62.76.
The following schedule would provide a 10-inch

ad in preferred location, every other week, in these
1376 Daily newspapers:

Cost per week of 10-inch ad - -

$8,786.40

-

Total Cost - 26 - 10-inch ads - in
Small City Dailies

-

$228,466.40

-

Country and Suburban Weekly Newspapers

There are 9,941 listed weekly newspapers in

the United States with probably several hundred

more unlisted. Total Circulation of listed papers,
16,241,172. Rate per inch, $3,317.41.
The following schedule would provide a 5-inch

ad in preferred location, every other week, in these
9,941 weekly newspapers:
$16,587.05

Cost per week of 5-inch ad - -

Total Cost - 26 - 5-inch ad in Weekly Newspapers

-

-

$431,263.30

-

TOTAL COST NEWSPAPERS -

26 - 300 line ads and

26 - 200 line ads in Metropolitan
Dailies
26 - 10 inch ads in Small City
Dailies

26 - 5 inch ads in Weekly

Newspapers

$1,561,129.70

-5 MAGAZINES

A blanket use of magazines would involve a

very large expenditure. Any plan of selecting certain magazines from the total group calls for
comprehensive study and discussion because of those

not included and because of the total dollars
required to do a continuous year-round job in
magazines.

For the purpose of establishing a base of
schedules, coverage and costs for consideration,
magazines have been segregated into three groups

consisting of:
(a) 9 weekly magazines;
(b) approximately 40 general and women's

magazines, representing an arbitrary selection of
women's magazines and national fiction magazines

as well as key fraternal publications, religious
publications, industrial publications, publications
appealing to housewives, school teachers, children,

etc., - in fact, to all "kinds" of people through
their favorite publications;
(c) 4 national farm publications and an
undetermined number of sectional and State farm

papers which could only be selected after further
study.

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367

The allotment of space and the breakdown of

costs for these various groups is as follows:
9 weeklies - 27, 177, 381 circulation
26 - 1 column ads

$331,942.00

40 general and women's magazines
approximately 40,000,000 circulation
12 - 1 column ads
$373,398.40

4 National farm publications and
sectional and State farm papers to
be selected. Approximately
10,000,000 circulation
12 - 1 column ads

87,480.00

TOTAL COST - Weekly magazines, general

and women's magazines, farm publications, as above
$792,820.40
OUTDOOR POSTERS

While outdoor advertising is generally recognized as the cheapest form of advertising on a

cost-per-thousand basis, it is one of the most
expensive media on the basis of dollars required
for over-all coverage.
A representative one-month, nation-wide posting
would require 29,481 posters. Towns covered 17,179.
Resident population of towns covered, 81,577,000.

The cost shown does not include production of the

actual posters themselves. A single month's posting
would probably represent the maximum expenditure

that should be made for outdoor advertising.
TOTAL COST - 26,842 Posters (non-illuminated)

2,639 Posters (illuminated)

-

$375,396.00

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CAR CARDS

This is the most difficult media on which

to establish current facts. Figures given below
represent a pretty accurate estimate of present

facilities, traffic and costs, not including
production of necessary cards. A three-months'
carding would probably be a maximum purchase of
this media.
Number of Cities covered

200

Number of Riders per month

126,757,733

Number of Cards

71,143

Size of cards

11 x 28

Cost per Month

$50,000

TOTAL COST - 3 Months' showing 70,000 cars

$150,000

MOTION PICTURES

At the present time approximately 10,000

theatres out of the 15,000 in the country have
agreed to cooperate with the Treasury Department
by running various types of Defense Savings Bonds

films at no cost. These films will be showing for
several months to come.

Actually only about 6000 theatres will use
paid screen advertising. These are for the most

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-8part theatres in smaller communities. None of

the nationally known circuits, operating the
great majority of de luxe theatres, will`accept
paid screen advertising in any form.
However, motion pictures for non-theatrical
use - schools, P. T. A. , fraternal organizations,
women's clubs, churches, etc. - are in great
demand. Probably 56,000 such outlets throughout

the country could be serviced with great effectiveness
on a very reasonable appropriation.
6 - 10 minute subjects
$60,000.00
1 - 20 minute subject

20,000.00

Necessary Prints (estimated)

12,000.00

Promotion material - leaflets,
posters, return cards, etc.

20,000.00

TOTAL COST - 6 ten minute and

1 - 20 minute non-theatrical
motion pictures, necessary films
and promotion material

$ 112,000.00

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SUMMARY OF COSTS

Radio

887,500.00

Newspapers

1,561,129.70

Magazines

792,820.40

Outdoor Posters

375,396.00

Car Card

150,000.00

Motion Pictures

112,000.00

$ 3,878,846.10

In the above no allowance has been made for art

work, preparatory cost or contingencies of any
kind. Conservatively this would amount to
approximately 10%
GRAND TOTAL

$

$

387,884.61

4,266,730.71

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Here are figures on the advertising
expenditures of A & P and Sears, Roebuck.

These are published figures for the year
1940:

A&P

Total Business

$ 982,700,000

Total Newspaper

4,752,000

Radio & Magazine

1,848,000
$

6,600,000

SEARS, ROEBUCK

Total Business (1939) $ 617,414,267
Newspaper advertising

11,404,649

Radio & Circulars

991,708

Total advertising
(Catalogues not
included)

$ 12,396,357

7,000,000 catalogues issued twice a
year estimated cost 88$ apiece.

PASSENGER GAR

ADVERTISING EXPENDITURES

Advertiser

RADIO

Farm

Total

Newspapers

Magazines

Journals

Chain

$7,635,534

$2,788,547

$214,983

$19,983

$38,078

$10,697,125

Chrysler Corp.

3,040,984

2,866,935

227,224

950,146

119,938

7,205,227

Ford Motor Co.

2,792,084

1,658,333

236,738

949,297

56,677

5,693,129

General Motors Corp.

Spot

GRAND TOTAL

$ 23,595,481

CIGARETTE

ADVERTISING EXPENDITURES

RADIO
Advertiser

Newspapers

Magazines

Journals

Chain

Spot

Total

Lucky Strike

660,408

1,506,154

209,593

1,837,833

Chesterfield

4,902,363

1,402,196

206,201

1,265,447

10,902

7,787,109

Camel

4,462,964

1,668,070

160,475

468,426

138,887

6,898,822

GRAND TOTAL

4,213,988

$ 18,899,919

These expenditures are compilations for the calendar year 1939 (1940 not available yet) and
are exclusive of preparatory costs, talent cost for radio and cost of outdoor paper and posting.

Furthermore, it does not include the cost of collateral advertising material such as literature,
displays, etc. Outdoor is not included as it is practically impossible to establish advertising
expenditures accurately for this medium. In other words, the figures shown are very conservative
and do not indicate the total advertising budget for these companies by any means.

373

JUN 6 1941

Mr. Hugh Baillie,
President,

United Press Associations,
220 E. 42d Street,
New York, New York.

Dear Mr. Baillies
On May 1st we inaugurated a carefully considered plan

for enlisting the savings of the American people in the task

of financing the National Defense Program.

Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps are now on sale in

post offices and banks throughout the United States.

It is important that the Treasury Department reach as often as possible - every home in the United States with
information about these government obligations.
Through your association, your assistance will be invaluable in our efforts to do this on a continuing basis.
We should like to come to you from time to time with specific
requests for cooperation.

I shall look forward to hearing from you.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan. Sr.

Secretary of the Treasury

MM:f1

On list to mmc

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June 6, 1941
Mr. Roy Howard,
Scrippe-Howard,
230 Park Avenue,
New York, N.Y.

Mr. Cranston Williams,

American Newspaper Publishers Asen.

370 Lexington Avenue at 41st St.,
New York, N. Y.

Mr. Robert McLean,

President, Associated Press,
50 Rockefeller Plaza,
New York, N.Y.

Mr. Barry Faris,
President, International News Service,
235 E. 45th Street,
New York, N.Y.

Mr. Hugh Baillie,
President, United Press Associations,
220 E. 42d Street,
New York, N.Y.

Mr. Fred S. Ferguson,

President, NEA Service, Inc.,
1200 W. Third Street,
Cleveland, Ohio.

Letters were sent to the above asking their
assistance and cooperation, through their associations,
in getting information to the public to promote the
sale of defense bonds and stamps. "We should like to
come to you from time to time with specific requests

for cooperation." - /8/ H. Morgenthau, Jr.
(Prepared by MM:f1 - File to Mr. Thompson)

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JUN 6 1941

Dear Miss Meares

Beginning July 2nd, and Wednesday nights for

thirteen weeks thereafter, the Treasury Department is
presenting over the Columbia Broadcasting System's notwork a full one hour program of entertainment, the
purpose of which is to promote the sale of bonds and
stamps to help finance national defense. Mr. Howard

Diets has been named chairman of the committee arranging
the programs, and Mr. Paul C. Munroe his assistant.
with this program we went to reach every home

in the United States, and to do this we must give to the
radio listeners the greatest of America's fine artists.
For this reason we come to you, knowing, of

course, that you, like all Americans, are ready and will-

ing to aid is this defense effort.

the should be proud to have you on one of these

programs. I am writing to ask whether you would be willing

to offer your services.

Please let - hear from you.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, 597

Secretary of the Treasury.

Miss Grass Moore
Newtown, Connecticut
PCM/MM

On lest to nmc

File to Mr. Thompso:

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June 6, 1941

Mr. A1 Jolson
2 Sutton Place
New York, N. Y.
Mr. Fred Schang

Columbia Concerts Corporation
113 West 57th Street

New York, N.Y.

Mr. George Engles, Vice President
National Broadcasting Company

Artist Service

30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, N.Y.

Mr. John Charles Thomas

Care of Mr. George Engles
National Broadcasting Company

Artist Service

30 Rockefeller Plaza

New York, N.Y.

Miss Lily Pons
Silvermine

Norwalk, Connecticut
Miss Grace Moore,
Newtown, Connecticut

Letter advising that beginning July 2nd, and

Wednesday nights for 13 weeks thereafter, the Treasury
Dept. is presenting over the Columbia Broadcasting
System's network a full one hour program of entertainment, to promote the sale of bonds and stamps to help
finance national defense, and asking whether they would

be willing to offer their services. /B/ H. Morgenthau, Jr.
(Letters prepared by VFC/mon - Files to Mr. Thompson)

Mr. Fred Allen
180 West 58th Street
New York, N.Y.

Expressing appreciation of Treasury Dept. for his
acceptance of offer to act as master of ceremonies on
inaugural broadcast of the series which Treasury is
going to present over Columbia network starting July 2nd.
/8/ H. Morgenthau Jr. (Prepared by PCM/mon)
File to Mr. Thompson.

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RADIO ADDRESS by COUNT SFORZA to THE ITALIANS OF AMERICA.

(Delivered in Italian)
I come to talk to you in your homes as a countryman, as a friend,
a friend who knows your thoughts, your feelings, and who also under-

stands the uncertainties which some of you have until recently felt.
You love this free America which has afforded to so many of you

a greater dignity in personal and civil life. But you retain, and
you should retain, a feeling of faithful love for our ancient common
country, Italy. The new American who is ashamed of his Italian origins,
is being cowardly and stupid. Who can deny the possibility that the

greatest writer, the most gifted artist, the profoundest philosopher
of the United States of tomorrow may be a young American whose parents

were born in Piedmont or in Sicily? I assure you that such is not
only possible, but probable. I have seen some of these young fellows

in the American universities to which I have been invited. Those who
feel ashamed of their mother because she does the washing in an old-

fashioned way, instead of using an electric machine which wears out

the shirts, are merely pathetic creatures. But the young American
who is loyal to his new country and at the same time proud of his

noble Italian origin, is one of the most hopeful elements of the
United States of tomorrow, in which all faiths and all nationalities
will come together in a common love of liberty and human dignity.
It is to defend this generous America of today and of tomorrow

that the Government in Washington is asking all citizens and residents of the United States to invest their savings in Defense Bonds
now on sale.

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-2What is your duty? Where do your interests lie?
Your duty and your interest is to buy as many as you can.

That it is in your own immediate interests is clear: you are
deciding on a good investment - and you entitle yourselves to the
respect and confidence of all Americans of other national origins.
But if these reasons alone were to determine your decision, I
would not be here to talk to you.
You must know and feel, deeply and proudly, that by buying
Defense Savings Bonds and other similar American bonds, you are

also contributing to Italy's freedom and to the independence and

greatness of the Italy of tomorrow. And you know it well - even
those among you who, for old illusions, prefer to shut your eyes
to the impending perils menacing today our Italian fatherland. For
Italy faces the same dangers that imperil the United States: disguised invasion today, servitude tomorrow, by those mechanized
barbarians, the Nazis. A murderous demagogue has made these poor

fools believe that they are endowed with Germanic racial superiority.
And therefore these barbarians despise in their hearts the Italians

for their "outmoded" love of liberty, and likewise despise the
Americans for their "adolescent" faith in the democratic principles
that were taught them by Jefferson and Lincoln.
In a Europe become Nazi, Italy would be only a German colony,

and America, in her turn, would be faced with a similar danger. Today
the Nazis are paying compliments to the Italians; but God preserve
you, my friends, from knowing them as masters: their overbearing

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Italy, but here as well.
Italians of America! Happily no disagreement will ever arise
between a free Italy and the United States. The same goals and the
same ideals will unite us tomorrow to create a more harmonious,
peaceful, and humane world.

Italians, when Italy will speak again to the world in the
language of Mazzini and Caribaldi, the United States will be glad

to find in a free Italy a loyal and powerful collaborator, which
she lacked in the Europe of Versailles. The Italy of tomorrow has,
like the United States, a great and glorious task: the peace and

union of Europe - not the false and delusive union the dictators
seek to establish, which scarcely hides the greatest of all perils:
that we all become slaves of the Nazis.

Italians, by helping the United States today, by buying the
Defense Savings Bonds, you can proudly tell yourselves: "We are

loyal to America because we want to see a really great and free

Italy such as our noblest spirits, from Dante to Mazzini, have
envisioned it."

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RADIO ADDRESS by IGNACE PADEREWSKI to THE POLES OF AMERICA.

(Delivered in Polish)

My dear Compatriots: -

Quite recently, upon the invitation of the Treasury Department
I spoke over the radio recommending the purchase of United States

Saving Bonds. Fully appreciating the importance of the Poles in the
life of this country the Treasury Department has asked me to broad-

cast again addressing you this time in Polish.
I do this with great pleasure, indeed, knowing by experience the
ardent patriotism of the American Poles.

It is clear to everybody that this country of yours has taken
an unmistakable and decisive stand on the side of the nations which
are fighting for freedom and democracy.

You may be proud and happy that your great President, Franklin
Roosevelt, did not follow the path of the leaders of many European

countries, who had paid for their efforts to maintain neutrality with
the loss of independence and the ruin of their countries.

Let us be aware of the fact that neutrality, once a total war
has been forced upon the world, has ceased to be any guarantee of
security.

Just as once upon a time, the Germany of the Kaiser had called

her guarantee of the inviolability of Belgium's frontiers, a scrap
of paper - so does Hitler today break his given promises any time he
sees an opportunity to commit the crime of another invasion.

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Grounding his opinion upon facts well known to all of us, the

President declared that it will be too late to think of the defense
of the United States when the Germans will have occupied Atlantic

bases, and will be able to terrorize from these bases the civilian
population of this continent.
We may now candidly tell ourselves that Great Britain's military

effort had suffered a delay in the first days of the war. Poland's
heroic resistance against the invaders of 1939 has aroused general

admiration. Yet it was but France's catastrophe which in the last
resort convinced England and the British Empire that to save our

civilization not only a supreme effort of the nation and her army was
absolutely necessary, but also a harmonious and self-denying collabora-

tion of all citizens.
The glare of the bloody European war is daily growing more

dazzling on the Western shore of the Atlantic ocean. German battleships and U-boats have long ago crossed the boundary line of the
Western Hemisphere. Availing themselves of the helplessness of France
the Germans are establishing their bases nearer and nearer to America.

The heroic resistance of Great Britain and her allies has delayed
the direct attack of the Germans against the American continent. But
no one is permitted to nurse any illusion as to what would happen
should the British Navy be unable to defend the Atlantic and the
American shores.

In the present war Poland's sacrifice was the greatest among all
nations of the world. The Poles too have the most thorough experience.

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Everyone of you, my friends, has someone in Poland who is near to his

heart. Everyone of you knows what a military invasion of a totalitarian state means; that German hangmen follow in its steps, and that

the aim of the latters is the extermination of a beaten people, the
breaking of its moral stamins, and common looting.
In the beginning of 1939 the Poles became aware that the moment

of an attack was approaching. The Poles understood that to make

blood offerings efficacious one had to make a material sacrifice to
assure the soldier's adequate equipment.

Liberal gifts were flowing into the Fund of National Defense, a
fund to which the Poles of America contributed then over a million

dollars. People were giving everything they could give. The workingmen in military industries gave their overtime work free of charge.

The farmers donated grain. The intelligentsia a large part of their
modest earnings. The enthusiasm was general. Fortunes were donated

to the Country's cause. Gifts exceeding one hundred thousand dollars

each were not an exception. Unfortunately, it was too late. It was
impossible in 80 short a time to accomplish what had been left undone in the lost years, in the years which the enemy had used for arming

himself, for preparing his criminal attack.
The greatest enthusiasm, the loftiest heroism cannot effectively
oppose themselves to the deadly machine of modern warfare. An airplane,

constructed too late is being destroyed by the enemy's bomb before it

is able to rise from its airfield. In the modern blitzkrieg one is
'not permitted to wait for the enemy's attack. Experience teaches that

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it is too late to think of defense when the foe attacks.
President Roosevelt told you that the United States will choose
the moment and the place of resisting the danger.

To be able to realize that announcement in conditions most propritious for the country, the President must have the unanimous backing

of an enlightened and disciplined body of the country's citizens. He
mist know that each of his instructions addressed to you will be
properly understood and immediately executed.

Those who tell you that the defense of this country should begin
when the enemy assails you, are seemingly not aware of the destruction

resulting from total warfare.
They are not aware that at the present moment your industries,

your agriculture, your railways, that all of you who do their share
for the common victory, are working in peace and safety. We are not
permitted to let those conditions change to your disadvantage.
The enemy must be crushed before he succeeds in landing on your
shores.

At the present moment a comparatively small sacrifice on your

part, a small financial contribution, a small donation of overtime
work, a temporary remunciation of some comforts and pleasures - will

enable you to do your civic duty. I repeat: at the present moment today - for tomorrow it may be too late.

It is your duty to assure the production and the delivery of
military equipment to the United States, to England, Poland and their
Allies, the equipment which is indispensable to win.

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The United States are big, powerful and wealthy. They do not
ask you to sacrifice your property - they demand a loan, they demand

collaboration and a concerted effort on the part of the whole nation.
Only harmony, only unity, only civic discipline and abiding by
the words of your President and his Administration may bring about

the total collapse of the assailing forces of evil and barbarism.
I feel sure that every American citizen of Polish descent, that
every Polish organization will do their duty purchasing United States
Saving Bonds, in the consciousness that by doing so they will serve

this country, they will serve Poland and the whole civilized world.

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The United States are big, powerful and wealthy. They do not
ask you to sacrifice your property - they demand a loan, they demand

collaboration and a concerted effort on the part of the whole nation.
Only harmony, only unity, only civic discipline and abiding by
the words of your President and his Administration may bring about

the total collapse of the assailing forces of evil and barbarism.
I feel sure that every American citizen of Polish descent, that
every Polish organization will do their duty purchasing United States
Saving Bonds, in the consciousness that by doing so they will serve
this country, they will serve Poland and the whole civilized world.

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SURVEY OF NON-DEFENSE EXPENDITURES

H.D. WHITE

Treasury Department,

Division of Monetary Research

Remind June

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Page Numbers

Summary

12
38

Waste of Labor Supply

9 12

Foreword

Organization for Training and Labor Supply
The Civilian Conservation Corps
The National Youth Administration

13 - 20

Office of Education

28 31

The United States Employment Service

32 - 33a

The WPA

Agriculture

Over-all Budgetary Picture

21 - 23
24 - 27

34 - 38
39 - 40
41 - 46

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May 31, 1941.
To:

Secretary Morgenthau

From:

H. D. White

Subject: Survey of Non-Defense Expenditures.
Foreword

On April 24, 1941, in speaking before the House
Committee on Ways and Means Committee, you said that ap-

propriations of the Federal Government for non-defense
expenditures should be reduced by approximately $1 billion.
The context made it clear that you had in mind that
the financial burden of increased expenditures on defense
would be very heavy and that curtailment on non-defense

expenditures should therefore be sought, and that since
incomes and employment were rising with the expanding arms

program, there was less real need for the various relief
programs.

You will remember that members of the Committee requested you to make more specific recommendations on

curtailment and that you took the position that the
Treasury Department had neither the responsibility nor the
resources to do 80 and that specific recommendations should
properly come from the Budget Bureau and from the regular
committees of Congress.

You requested me to undertake -- for your own use --

a rapid and informal investigation of the expenditures of
a number of agencies, including the CCC, the NYA, the WPA,

the Office of Education, the United States Employment
Service, and the Defense Training Program. You also

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requested that Mr. Haas should review the agricultural expenditures of the Federal Government, and you asked me to

cooperate with him on his findings.

This report is the result of my survey. (A second
report dealing more fully with agriculture will, I presume,
be submitted by Mr. Haas). In the preparation of the
report many Government officials were interviewed, private
and public documents of the agencies concerned were studied,

and a brief field trip was spent in visiting offices, camps,
and projects in the nearby states of Virginia, Maryland,
North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.

This report aims to suggest and analyze. It does not
pretend to be definitive and detailed. Neither does it
pretend to make recommendations in a form directly trans-

ferable into legislation. If any action is to be taken on
the basis of these recommendations, it should be taken

only after the usual investigations have been made by the
Budget Bureau and appropriate committees of Congress which

possess the necessary authority, staff, information and
time for detailed consideration.

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Summary

The appraisal of non-defense expenditures which follows has been made primarily in terms of the paramount

objective of national defense.

1. The general conclusions of this appraisal are:
(a) The country is spending large sums of
money on non-defense activities which should in-

stead go to tasks more immediately contributing to
the defense program.

(b) Although a substantial portion of the
funds going to nominally non-defense activities

is actually being spent on defense tasks, this
expenditure is not making anywhere near its maximum contribution to that end.

(c) Most important of all, we are wasting a
large portion of the most valuable productive asset
of the country, our labor supply, which should d

either be working at vital defense tasks or be
receiving training for such tasks.
These conclusions go even further than the position you
took before the Ways and Means Committee; they suggest that
much larger savings than those recommended by you can be

obtained -- if the organization of the defense program is
improved, enlarged and intensified.

I wish to make it clear that these conclusions do not
reflect upon the competence of the administrators of the nondefense programs. It is apparent from discussions with some
of these officials and from observations of some of the projects

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that a considerable transformation of these programs has

already taken place and that existing plans will result in
still further conversion of these programs in accordance
with the interests of national defense.

2. Waste of labor supply. The most important single
conclusion of my survey is that this country is wasting its
labor supply on a tremendous scale. Budgetary economies in
non-defense expenditures are of minor significance in com-

parison with this waste.
(a) On a rough estimate, there were in April

1941, about 12 million persons idle. The liquidation of this pool of unemployed is the first neces-

sity in this period of national emergency. If we
were to mobilize as high a proportion of the adult
population for gainful employment as we did in the
last war, we should be employing today 61 million
persons, compared to the 49 million actually employed in April -- including those serving in the
armed forces.

(b) Much better use could be made of the
non-defense agencies which are participating in
the defense training program.

(c) The responsibility for the waste which
has been found lies in the administration of the
Defense agencies and not in that of the non-defense
agencies. The National Defense program has not been

planned to embrace all the resources of the country
which are available for defense purposes.

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(e) To remedy this situation it is recommended
that:

(1) The OPM should immediately prepare plans

for and initiate a vastly expanded production
schedule for an all-out defense effort and a detailed schedule of the future labor requirements
needed for the expanded production schedule.

(2) A thorough inventory of the available
labor supply should be compiled on the basis of
which a rational labor program can be constructed.

This program should cover not only training of
the youth and unemployed but also up-grading of

workers in industry, "dilution", occupational and
regional transfers, etc.
(3) As the process of re-employment in
defense industry will take time, the existing
emergency relief programs should be converted

as rapidly as possible into defense programs,
and the managers of defense production should be

charged with the duty of switching these programs

to production and training which are as benefi-

cial as possible to the defense effort. This
process has already begun, but it should be accelerated and coordinated.

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3. Specific recommendations with respect to non-defense
agencies.

(a) CCC. The CCC and NYA programs should be

merged into a single youth program. The regular
appropriations for this unified program should be
$100 million less than the two appropriations now
contemplated for the CCC and the NYA.

(b) NYA. Approximately $50 million should be

diverted as rapidly as possible to specific defense
training.

(c) Office of Education. No savings can be
made on the expenditures of the Office of Education.
(d) U.S. Employment Service. The U.S. Employment Service should as soon as possible be made into

a Federal agency. The requested appropriation for
the U.S. Employment Service should not be curtailed.

(e) WPA. At least another 25 percent of the
WPA projects should be diverted from non-defense to

defense categories and the necessary relaxations of

administrative and legal restrictions to make this
possible should be introduced. Until the defense
program is enlarged considerably beyond our present
plans, WPA should not be cut more compared with last

year than the $450 million which is in process of
being realized.
4. The savings in non-defense expenditures ensuing from
the above recommendations consist of (a) actual reductions in
expenditures and (b) diversion of funds from non-defense programe to purposes of defense, which represent amounts that

would otherwise have to be provided for in defense appropriations.

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In brief the picture would be roughly as follows:
(Millions of Dollars)
Reductions already effected in latest
appropriations as compared with earlier
Bureau of the Budget recommendations

Savings from reduced recommendations
for WPA

Savings from reduced recommendations
for CCC

$100

35

Total

Diversions already effected from nondefense to defense expenditures
Diversion effected in the WPA
Diversion made on U.S. Employment
Service Program

Diversion made on regular NYA out-ofschool work program

$135

225

66

25

$316

Total

Possible savings from recommended reduction
in expenditures

Desirable reductions in the agricultural programs, net

Reductions in expenditures from combining NYA and CCC

$350-450
100

$450-550

Total

Possible savings from recommended further
diversion
Recommended further diversion in
regular NYA out-of-school program
Recommended further diversion in WPA
from non-defense to defense
Total

Grand Total savings (including diversions)
already realized or possible

50

225

$275

$1,175-$1,275

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However, the magnitude of the non-defense expenditures

reviewed in this report constituting as they do but 10
percent of the total contemplated Federal expenditures of

$22.2 billion for fiscal 1942, 1s by no means our major
budgetary problem. It must be emphasized that price con-

trole and financial measures adequate to the prevention of
inflation, for example, will save the Government much more
money than any possible curtailment of non-defense expendi-

tures. Likewise, prices which do not allow unnecessarily
large margins of profit on defense contracts are more important from the point of view of monetary savings than
curtailment of non-defense expenditures.

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Waste of Labor Supply

This country is wasting its labor supply on a tremendous
scale. Any analysis of labor supply for defense purposes
and of expenditures on labor training, and, likewise, any
analysis of Governmental expenditures for relief quickly

runs into this hard fact.
On a rough estimate, there were in April, 1941, about
12 million persons who should certainly have been productively employed in a period of national emergency but who
were not being employed.

These 12 million persons consisted of 7 million unemployed who were seeking work and another 5 million who

would have worked in industry if jobs had been plentiful.
These figures of the available labor supply are conservative rather than exaggerated. We should be able in
the United States today to mobilize a higher proportion of
the adult population for gainful employment than we did in
1918 because among other reasons the United States is more
urban, the employment of women is more usual, and our ad-

ministrative machinery is better. But if we did only as
well as in 1918, we should be employing today 61 million
persons. What we were actually employing in April, 1941,

was 49 million persons -- including those serving in the
armed forces.

Of these 12 million persons available for the defense
effort, the programs of WPA, NYA and CCC are utilizing

the services of 2 million. But this work is generally

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regarded as improvised and as being partially wasteful during
the period of military emergency.

It is probably correct to treat the whole of these 12
million persons as being available for more urgent defense
tasks and to measure the waste of basic resources by this

figure of 12 million.
Corroboration of this estimate is found in the following statement which was concurred in unanimously by the

representatives of the Budget Bureau, OPM, Social Security
Board, Wages and Hours, WPA and others at a conference on

labor potential held March 31, 1941:
"Assuming that an increase of approximately 9 million
in the employed working forces (including the armed forces)
is necessary to meet defense program schedules during the

next 2 years, the required number of workers could be ob-

tained without placing more strain on labor reserves than
has occurred several times in the past, and specifically

the strain would not be as great as it was during our participation in the World War."
What is the outlook for the coming year? According
to estimates submitted to the Secretary of the Treasury
by Mr. Hillman, Associate Director of OPM, the scheduled

defense program will result in the employment of 3 million

additional workers in the fiscal year 1942. In addition,
the armed forces will absorb another million persons.

Allowing for 600,000 youthful entrants into the labor
market, there will be a net decrease in the unused labor
supply of approximately 3-1/2 million persons.
These estimates make no provision for expansion in
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believed also that they make no allowance for such contrac-

tion in employment as will result from the application of
priorities and from other shut-downs due to the lack of
raw materials and equipment.

Therefore, the outlook 18 that at the end of the second

year of the defense effort there will still be as many as
8-1/2 million persons available for employment but not being

used in the national effort. Perhaps 4 million of these
will be seeking work and 4-1/2 million will be among those
who would work if jobs were plentiful.
These facts make it evident that present defense plans

involve a continued waste of our labor supply for at least
another year on a scale only somewhat smaller than the pres-

ent one. Responsibility for this waste lies in the administration of the Defense agencies rather than in that of
the non-defense agencies. The National Defense program has

not been planned to embrace all the resources of the country
which are available for defense purposes. Even that program
which has been planned is not being carried out on schedule.

Furthermore, the Defense agencies, in their first year of
operation, have not succeeded in making their future plans
definite enough so that the non-defense agencies of the
Government can adapt themselves to these plans.

This basic shortcoming of our defense program seems to

call for two lines of action:
(1) The first is to give definite responsibility
and authority to someone in the defense program to lay plans
to put these unused resources to necessary defense production,

and initiate appropriate action. This recommendation is
far reaching. It means

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that the whole planning and administration of the defense
production program should be overhauled. The managers of
defense production -- the OPM rather than the armed services

-- should be instructed to prepare immediately plans which

will constitute an all-out defense effort.
(2) Since it is not clear that such an overhauling
is going to take place in a matter of weeks or even months,
the existing emergency relief programs should be converted
into defense programs. The managers of defense production

should be charged with the duty and the responsibility of
seeing that these agencies are engaged in production and

training which 18 as beneficial to the defense effort as
it can be made. This process has already begun but it
should be enlarged, coordinated, and energized.

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Organization for Training and Labor Supply

The responsibility for training and labor supply is
in the Office of Production Management. This office, under
Mr. Hillman, has started a number of programs designed to

ensure that defense production obtains the labor supply it
needs. In the carrying out of this task, the OPM has an
easier job than was the case in the last war for several
reasons.

(1) The first is the abundant supply of unemployed
labor which the OPM found at hand when it commenced opera-

tions -- a total of perhaps 9 million persons in April,
1940.

(2) A number of Governmental agencies which did not

exist in the last war are in a position to assist the OPM
in its task.
(a) The first such agency is the U.S.E.S.
Whatever the shortcomings of our system of employ-

ment offices, we are better off than in World War
because we have such a system. The problems of

discovering where workers are and where they should
be and of placing them are therefore very much

simplified.
(b) The existence of the NYA and the 000
provides the OPM with going administrative agen-

oies for recruiting youth into the defense program
and for training them. Again,whatever the defects

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of these organizations, they have provided administrative machinery, some equipment, and connections
with a large untrained and unemployed population.

(c) The Office of Education, with various
small programs of vocational education and with
excellent connections with the school system, has
provided another convenient administrative appa-

ratus to help in the problems of training for defense work.

(d) The WPA provides a functioning administrative machine whereby otherwise unemployed

persons can be put to useful work, particularly
constructive work.

(e) In the last World War the United States
did not possess a Department of Labor. The advantages of the information, knowledge, and contacts
which the present Department of Labor possess are

obvious. For the program of labor training and
supply, the Department of Labor can serve as an

important staff organization, advising and planning
on all major labor problems.
Thus the OPM when it commenced operations found at hand

administrative agencies to aid in the production of defense

articles, in the training of workers, and in the transfer and
placement of workers. The OPM and the Services are making

use of all these agencies.

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Yet, after one year of experience, it does not appear
that the defense training and labor supply program and,
more importantly, the defense production program have taken

such form that full use is being made of these agencies.

still more important, full use is not being made of our labor
supply.

The programs of the CCC, the NYA, the Office of Education, and the Employment Service, have had added on to

them certain defense functions. But these agencies have
not been adapted to the defense program to anything like

the necessary extent. It is doubtful whether the CCC is

doing useful defense work. It is not clear that the NYA
is giving the most useful kinds of industrial training.
The two youth programs, the NYA and the CCC, are still run

with little regard for each other.
The training program of the NYA and that developed in
the Office of Education are to a considerable extent com-

petitive. The formal decision that the Office of Education
should supply training and that the NYA should take on
projects does not, when analyzed, make much sense. A whole

cluster of legal and administrative difficulties s together
with the shortcomings of the basic defense program have
prevented the WPA from being converted into a defense project

administration. The organization of the U.S.E.S. is not
being overhauled sufficiently rapidly to make it the agency responsible for providing the workers when and where
they are needed.

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A clearer picture of the shortcomings of our present
programs of labor training and labor supply can be obtained
only if it is realized just where these programs should

fit into the basic program of industrial production for defense. Such a general defense industrial program should
have the following parts:
1. A production schedule which goes beyond contracts

already let and includes all defense goods and services
which the Government would like to get produced if it were
able to.

2. As part of this production schedule, there should
be a highly detailed schedule of labor requirements for
military and civilian purposes, but particularly adapted to
show in what occupations, industries, plants and districts,

additional labor will be required to fulfill the basic production schedule.

3. An inventory of the available labor force including:
(a) The unemployed, broken down according

to residence and type of skill;
(b) The employed population, broken down

by skills so as to show where workers can be
diverted from less to more essential work;

(c) What skills will be produced by the
current training program, and when;

(d) The labor supply currently outside the
labor market.

4. On the basis of the above figures, a rational training program can be constructed. If we know ahead of time

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what we will need in the way of skills and also know what

is available and where it is available, the nature of the
training which is most necessary can also be indicated.

5. Such schedules are also necessary for an intelligent program of labor diversion in order to break existing
bottlenecks. Unless we know what we have in the way of

skills and where skilled labor is now employed, diversion
of workers will be slow, costly in terms of money and output, and in many cases will be at the expense of other
defense articles.
By common consent, the defense training program suffers because of the numerous agencies involved and because

of a variety of shortcomings common to a new program. But

the basic inadequacy of the defense training program really
consists in the absence of an expanded production schedule
and a detailed schedule of future labor requirements.
It is hard to see how there can be a program which

trains workers for defense tasks or one which diverts
workers for more important tasks unless there is foreknowledge of what skills will be required and where and when

they will be required. And such knowledge obviously requires
a detailed schedule of production which shows what is going
to be produced, where it is going to be produced, and at

what time it is going to be produced. The OPM at the present time does not seem to have this knowledge in sufficient
detail to determine the character of the programs relating
to labor supply.

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But even if it had, the scope of the program which
has now taken form is small in relation to the available

labor supply. Therefore, there are millions of persons
whose labor is not now being employed and for which the defense program has no employment plans. In these circumstances, the defense labor supply program cannot be

organized on the only rational basis -- namely that every
able-bodied person is useful and that jobs will be found

for those who are given skilled training.
The managers of defense production ought to think

first in terms of a program which is definite and which
has reached the contractual stage. They ought to think
second in terms of other and additional defense programs

which will utilize our labor and other resources to produce necessary defense articles and services. Unless the

managers of defense production rise to the level of think-

ing in terms of a national economy -- that is, in terms
of utilizing all available resources for defense production
-- they will not succeed in organizing the national economy
for defense.

Instead of such an efficient organization, we now have:

lack of planning of production; lack of creation of new
facilities; lack of expansion of raw materials; and lack

of training of labor. All these deficiencies result in
(a) a much smaller total of defense articles now and in the

future; and (b) a much smaller total of civilian goods now
and in the future. If these trends are not checked, the

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United States will be the only war economy which finds
it impossible to use all its man-power at some productive
task.

We should not be satisfied with a national defense
program involving production plans which provide for the
employment of anything less than all the available labor

forces, in the extended sense in which the available labor
force has been defined above. We should not be satisfied
with plans which do not start with a complete inventory
of available labor (by skills and areas), complete knowledge
of the new skilled labor forthcoming from existing vocational training establishments, and a comprehensive picture of labor requirements (broken down by time periods

and the particular skills required).
Starting with such a picture, an intelligently and
aggressively directed labor training program could take

in hand the job of supervising up-grading, dilution,
combing workers out of unessential occupations, regional

transfers, etc. Were the administrators of the labor sup-

ply and training program in a position to state their labor
needs cogently, no one would stand in their way if they
requested that the training of labor be imposed as a contract provision in Government awards, that priorities on
labor requirements be established among industries, that
the Government provide funds for "vestibule schools", that

the Government pay for training "on the job", and that the
Government expand and intensify the training now done in

connection wi th public school facilities.

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Such requests for further authority to maintain an
adequate supply of labor for defense industries and such

requests for further funds as would be necessitated by
this program, have little force at this time because the
OPM appears to be going about its job in 80 improvised
and haphazard a fashion.

Final authority for the planning and execution of
our labor training program should be in the hands of the
OPM. Such additional authority would be more willingly
granted if first the OPM should show more competence to

conceive and carry out such a program. The Office of Educa-

tion, the NYA, the CCC, etc., should survive as labor
training agencies only insofar as they may be regarded as
convenient administrative agencies for the performance of

particular parts of the OPM's program. It is unlikely
that the CCC will be able to justify itself as making a
substantial contribution to industrial skills necessary
for the expansion of defense industries. The NYA and

Office of Education will fare better, but even they will
need to be "coordinated" severely with reference to objectives and procedures other than those they have been
following up to now.

In the following sections, the various agencies are
briefly surveyed and evaluated with respect to their place
in the defense program, and the possibility of budgetary
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The Civilian Conservation Corps

(Millions of dollars)
Estimated Expenditures, fiscal 1941

$274

Budget Recommendation, fiscal 1942

270

Prospective Appropriation, fiscal 1942

235

The decrease in prospective CCC expendi tures is entirely

the result of the decline in the number of enrollees. The
total enrollment has declined by about 25 percent to about
225,000, despite the intensified appeal for enrollment and
the relaxation in requirements. The decreased enrollment
reflects improved employment opportunities in industry as
well as present and prospective inclusion in the Army of
young persons eligible for the CCC.
Although much of the expenditures of the CCC is valuable

from the point of view of long-run social objectives, it
appears that only a small part of these expenditures is directly related to our defense effort. The training now provided
in the CCC is of little use as preparation for the Army, which
trains former CCC enrollees in much the same manner 8.8 any

other men. Despite the outward similarity to Army life, the
routine training of CCC enrollees having value for military
purposes could be surpassed by the Army in very much shorter

time. If considerable sums are to be spent at this time in
preparing young men for the Army, it would seem that the
appropriage agency for the purpose is the Army and the appro-

priate method induction into the Army.

No very significant part of CCC expenditure is directed
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exceptions inadequate for a satisfactory training program.
There is some training of CCC enrollees as cooks, bakers,
radio-repairmen and motor-repairmen. But such training is

given to relatively few men, and it is only remotely related
to the more urgent training required for industrial defense
work.

The conservation work of the CCC, important though it
is, must be regarded as less urgent than defense; and such
conservation work as might properly be undertaken at this

time, e.g. forest fire and crop insect control, can be performed by other agencies.

Most authorities on the youth program agree that there
is and has been substantial overlapping between the CCC and
the NYA. Although the NYA can be and is being converted

into a defense training program, the CCC cannot be satis-

factorily adapted for this purpose. If the CCC were abolished and its funds were made available for a unified and
effective youth program organized specifically to provide
industrial defense training, many more youths could be given

preparatory industrial experience at a considerably smaller
cost.

Furthermore, the CCC is well known to be an expensive

program costing the Government over $1,000 for a year's

enrollment per person. This cost results not only from the
payments made on behalf of CCC enrollees to their parents,

but also because of its very large overhead cost. Its supervisory personnel is large and expensive in comparison wi th
the NYA.

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Therefore, it is recommended that the CCC and NYA

program should be merged into a single youth program.

It 18 further recommended that the regular appro-

priations for this unified program should be $100 million
less than the two appropriations now contemplated for the
CCC and the NYA, or approximately $235 million instead of
$335 million.
These recommendations should not be interpreted as

reflecting in any way on the usefulness of the CCC in the
past. The CCC expenditures have been amply justified from

the point of view of their long-run contribution to the
health, welfare and morale of the enrollees and their

families, and their contribution to the conservation of
the natural resources of the nation. But ends and means
have changed rapidly and the CCC, as well as other agen-

cies, must be adapted to the more urgent objectives of the
defense emergency.

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The National Youth Administration
Appropriations for the current NYA program may be

split roughly into three parts.
Fiscal Year

Fiscal Year

1941

1942

(Est.)

(Est.)

32.5

60.0

74.1
28.1

73.7
28.1

134.7

161.8

(In millions of dollars)
Defense production
projects
Other production
projects
School aid
Total

The NYA has already made considerable progress in con-

verting its out-of-school work program into a thorough
defense training program. In April 1941 some 405,000 youth
were employed in the out-of-school work program, and of
these about one-fourth were employed in workshop production

having a direct relation to defense industries. This production training included machine shop, sheet metal, welding,
foundry, auto maintenance and repair, aviation services,

radio, electrical, drafting, blue-printing, etc.
The projects operated under the special youth work

defense budget ($60 million) during the coming fiscal year

will run on a full-time basis. Their operations will
dove-tail with the regular part-time NYA program in that
the shops operated on a part-time basis will be used as
"feeders" to the full-time defense shop projects. Youth
with demonstrated superior ability, and those who have
had some previous training or experience in defense

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occupations, will be transferred from regular part-time
projects to the defense full-time projects for intensive
work and training.

It is now planned to limit employment under the youth
work defense program to a maximum of 100,000 youth with a
monthly average employment of 92,000. Youth employed on

this program will be required to work or attend classes a
total of 160 hours a month. The average period of employment will be between three and four months, depending upon

the occupational field in which the youth is receiving
work experience. Therefore, the youth work defense program will reach between 275,000 and 375,000 different

youth during the course of the fiscal year. The shop
projects operated under this program will be devoted to
providing work experience in occupations recommended by
the Office of Production Management.
In these plans, we see emerging a program which could

make a valuable contribution to the expansion of defense

production. Already about $25 million of the regular
out-of-school work program (budget $74 million) is actually
being spent for defense purposes. It should, in fact,
be possible to convert the whole out-of-school work program into a defense training program so that there would
be a single defense training program instead of two
separate programs, one a defense training program and
the other an out-of-school training program on non-defense
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It is recommended, therefore, that the approximately
$50 million which the NYA is using for production projects

not specifically related to defense be diverted as rapidly
as possible to specific defense training.
Among all NYA expenditures, those for assistance to

students who are in school are most open to criticism on
the ground of not making a direct contribution to the de-

fense program. But, in my judgment, such criticism is
short-sighted. The expenditures in question are less than
$30 million. They are used in order to help pay for the
education of youth belonging to families which are in the
lowest third income group of our population. It would not
strengthen our defense program to eliminate this small
national contribution to the education of needy youth. On

the contrary, the adverse social effects of cutting this
expenditure would be, in my opinion, quite disproportionate
to the amount saved.

It was suggested above that the NYA and the CCC should
be merged. In that case, the enlarged NYA should become an

integrated national agency for youth defense training. It
would organize its program of training labor supply in
relation to the over-all plans for labor requirements
developed by the Office for Production Management.

In recommending this integrated youth defense training
agency, we do not pretend to decide how much defense training should be pre-vocational and how much should be "on

the job". It may be that a larger amount of defense training should be taken over by private industrial plants,
and this may in fact happen as the defense program expands.

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If the defense program is very slow in getting under
way, the NYA defense training will seem to many people to be
a waste of money because the youth will not succeed in
getting employment. However, pending the development of

plans for the utilization of all our labor power in defense
work, it is good insurance and a wise use of money to continue training youth for defense work, trying to make that

training as intensive and valuable as possible.

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Office of Education

The following are the estimated appropriations for the
Office of Education for the fiscal years 1941 and 1942:
Fiscal Year
1941

Fiscal Year
1942

(In millions of dollars)

National Defense

75.5

94.4

Other

28.5

29.3

104.0

123.7

Total

There is no saving possible in the Office of Education's program except by curtailing valuable educational
services or reducing the defense training program.
The regular appropriations of the Office of Education
go for the endowment of agricultural colleges, engineering

colleges, vocational education and other activities of this
kind. This work is of the highest importance. It constitutes a part of our social services of the greatest long-run
value. No emergency should cause us to go back on the se
social gains.

In 1940, Congress appropriated $75.5 million to enable
the Office of Education to inaugurate and maintain a pro-

gram of industrial training utilizing facilities of existing
vocational schools. The upkeep of this program for a full
year is now estimated at approximately $94 million. Instruction is being given under these appropriations, during the

present fiscal year, to very nearly a million persons. This
training is of various kinds.
Perhaps the most valuable training is that given in socalled "supplementary" courses. These courses are given in
public schools, private schools, and industrial plants to men

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now employed in occupations essential to defense. The
purpose of the supplementary courses is to "upgrade" men

already having some skill in short courses of 8 to 10 weeks'
duration to enable them to hold more important jobs in defense industry. From July 1, 1940, to April 1, 1941, some
286,000 persons have received training in these supplementary

courses. The United States Office of Education estimates

that about 400,000 persons will receive training inthese
supplementary courses by the end of the fiscal year 1941.
Also unquestionably of value is the 80-called "engineering

defense training". In October, 1940, Congress allocated $9

million for the cost of short engineering courses of college
grade, to be given by engineering schools, designed to avoid
the emergence of a shortage of engineers with specialized

training in fields essential to national defense. About 1,000
courses are now being given under this program in more than
135 engineering schools. Some of these courses require the

full time of the student; others are given after working
hours for those who are employed. The United States Office
of Education estimates that perhaps 100,000 persons will

receive training in these engineering defense courses during

the fiscal year 1941. In the following year it may be
possible to double the number of persons receiving training
in such courses if the appropriations now pending before
Congress are approved.

Also bulking very large in the Office of Education defense training program are the "pre-employment refresher"
courses designed to give unemployed persons some training

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in a skill essential to industrial operations. These courses
generally last from 8 to 12 weeks. About 400,000 persons
will apparently receive some training in these courses dur-

ing the present fiscal year.
Mr. Hillman has spoken of the skills acquired in these
courses as "rudimentary"; they are commonly described as

"pre-vocational", and to that must be added the fact that they

are often more related to local training facilities than to
defense needs. However, the United States Office of Education
has reported that, of a total of about 190,000 persons who had
completed such courses up to April 1, 1941, about 101,000 were
known to have obtained employment. This record doubtless
exaggerates the degree of success of the training program inasmuch as there is no indication that the positions the trainees

received required the skills for which they were trained.
To date, the coordination of this defense training
program with visible defense labor needs leaves a great
deal to be desired. The OPM has not generally been in a

position to give the local training officials a picture of
labor requirements by regions which they could use as a master

plan for their local training program. The funds made available
for this program are reported by the Budget Bureau to have been
spent throughout the 48 states in accordance with population

rather than adjusted to the location of defense industry.
One feature of the general training program that appears

to offer an obvious opening for improvement is the matter
of coordination in the field--where actual operations are
carried out. At Greensboro, North Carolina, the WPA (under
Office of Education sponsorship) conducts classes in welding,

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machine operations, and sheet metal work using the local

high school facilities. The WPA officials were not aware
of what, 1f anything, was being done in these fields by the
local NYA.

The NYA was simultaneously constructing a modern shop

-for training in machine work, welding, and sheet-metal-for the present using old shop buildings for the same type of
training. NYA officials did not know what WPA was doing in

these fields, and stated that there was no effort to relate
the two programs (if the WPA did have a similar program) insofar as the type of training or the numbers of trainees was

concerned. Both, incidentally, explained that welding classes
were designed to provide welders for the Norfolk Navy Yard,

despite the fact that we had been told by officials in charge
of Norfolk vocational classes that no welding courses were

given in Norfolk, since the Navy Yard preferred to trainits
own welders.

Similar lack of coordination was evident at Cumberland,
Maryland, where the NYA shop superintendent did not know
whether or not WPA had shop courses. Also, the State NYA

office at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, was unaware of what, if
anything, the WPA was doing in vocational training--either
near Harrisburg or in the state as a whole. Mor did any
of these agencies know what was being done to train workers

inindustry for the same jobs that they were aiming toward.
No monetary savings can be made at the present time on

the appropriations for the defense training program. The
Office of Education plays a vital part in this program.
The progress of the defense program calls for expansion of

this training and improvement inits quality rather than ourtailment of expenditures.

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The United States Employment Service

Appropriations for the United States Employment Service
are as follows:
Fiscal year
1941 (Est.)

Fiscal year
1942 (Est.)

3.0

3.1

2.0

1.5

61.0

63.0

66.0

67.6

(In millions of dollars)

Grants to States, United States
Employment Service

Social Security Board: Selecting,
testing, and placing defense
workers

Grants to States for Employment
Administration
Total

Practically all this money is devoted to the maintenance
by the states of a system of employment offices which serve
not only for placement but also for unemployment compensation.

The defense programs of labor training and of labor supply
cannot function efficiently without such a network of employment

offices and indeed the efficient functioning of our labor training and supply programs will probably require considerable expansion and improvement of these employment offices. In other
words, the United States Employment Service is one of the most
important arms of our present defense program and it should be
strengthened in every possible way.

There are at present approximately 5 million persons
seeking work who are on the Employment Service registers. The

data obtained from these registers is the best data we now have

on the available skills needed in the defense program. It is
the data whereby shortages of skilled labor are observed and
forecast and consequently is, or should be, an important

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the Employment Service should be expanded as rapidly as

possible to cover more of the unemployed population and

large sections of the employed population.

The placement activities of the offices of the Employment Service have become of much more importance since the

inception of the defense program. In the future it will
be desirable to expand the scope of the Employment Service.

If it is not possible for the Employment Service to participate in a larger proportion of the total placement made,
it will at least be necessary for the Employment Service to
have records covering a larger proportion of the total
placements. The problems of diverting labor from non-defense
to defense jobs, or fromLess important to more important

activities in the defense program, will probably involve
either an expansion in the powers of the United States
Employment Service or of an agency working closely with that
Service.

Our system of employment offices is administered by the
states with funds granted by the Federal Government. Unemployment is a national problem. Administration of employment

offices by states has produced, and will continue to produce,
shortsightedness and poor administration. Problems of the
labor supply for defense purposes are national problems. It
is placing an unnecessary impediment in the way of the defense

program to continue to mintain the employment offices under
state administration.

Even if it is deemed desirable for a while longer to get
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ment Service should be granted powers to intervene directly
and run employment offices wherever this seems necessary.

It is further recommended that the requested appropriation
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The W.PIA.

The following table shows estimated expenditures of the

WPA for the fiscal year 1941 and for the fiscal year 1942:

(In millions of dollars)
Estimated Expenditures for fiscal
year 1941

$1,325

Original Appropriation request for
fiscal year 1942

975

Regised Appropriation Request for
fiscal year 1942

875

The appropriation of $875 million will provide work

relief for a million men throughout the year. At the present
time there are probably 7 million unemployed, of whom

2,800,000 are the chief wage earners of families in need

already certified as eligible for WPA employment. Even with
an expansion of employment, estimated WPA expenditures for

the fiscal year 1942 will provide work relief for only a
minor part of the needy unemployed.
To what extent curtailment of WPA expenditures is

desirable depends upon two factors. The first is the expansion of the defense program and the number of additional
persons who will be employed in the economy as a result of
that program. The second is the extent to which WPA projects
are converted into more urgent defense projects.
The WPA program has never provided work for much more

than one-fourth of the unemployed -- and sometimes for con-

siderably less. If WPA rolls are out on July 1 to 1 million
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be lower than has been usual. If, as the figures given out
by OPM anticipate, there is a net decrease in unemployment

of approximately 3-1/2 million in the coming year, the
proportion of unemployed who are on WPA rolls will still not
exceed 25 percent of the total unemployed in the last months

of the fiscal year.
There can be no doubt of the capacity of WPA to perform
useful defense work. The contributions of WPA to defense

have been substantial ever since its inception. The WPA

has built about 80 percent of the airports in the country.
Under projects sponsored by the War and Navy Departments,

the National Guard, and the Coast Guard, more than 12,000

buildings were constructed and improved by the WPA. The
WPA road construction program has been of great value to the
Army and Navy and to defense industries.
At the present time about 240,000 WPA workers are
employed on projects certified by the War and Navy Departments

as important for defense purposes, and another 200,000 on un-

certified defense projects. But altogether no more than
25 percent of the total WPA man-power may be estimated as

currently employed on defense projects.
The assertion is commonly made and has some substance

to it -- that a number of WPA workers are far below the standards required by defense industry either because of age,

physical incapacity, or some other reason. However, this
circumstance, where it exists, derives much more from local
standards of certification to the WPA than from the general
characteristics of our unemployed population. In the usual
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and certainly no significant proportion of the 7 million
persons now unemployed in this country should be classified

by industry
or others as unfit for work. Some idea of the
ive
restricted standards which private industry maintains for
its employees may be obtained from the fact that at present
most defense industry employers will not at present employ:

(a) aliens, (b) negroes, (c) persons not born in the United
States, (d) persons over 45 years of age, (e) women.

In the present emergency intelligent use of our man-

power distates that as large as possible a proportion of
WPA projects should be defense projects. Here 1s an organiza-

tion available for defense work, particularly construction
work, and a large supply of labor. The things that stand
in the way of diversion to defense work are legal and admin-

istrative obstacles, inability of the management of the
defense program to utilize this machinery and man-power,

and the present allocation of defense contracts.
For example, legal provisions requiring minimum spon-

sors' contributions on non-Federal projects and limiting
non-labor costs paid from WPA funds prevent a wider use of

WPA for defense purposes. Limitations on hours of labor
and earnings also restrict the usefulness of WPA in the
defense program. Projects certified by the War and Navy
Departments as important for military and naval purposes are
now exempted to some extent from these restrictions. How-

ever, there is much useful work for defense that cannot be
undertaken because of these limitations. In the coming year

it should be easily possible to overcome the various obstacles at least to the extent of making 50 percent of the WPA

projects into defense activities.

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Valuable as is the work now done by WPA, there is no

doubt that this labor force is not being effectively used
from the point of view of our defense program. The Army
and Navy could make much more use of the services of the WPA on

important projects under their sponsorship. They seem to
think of WPA too much in terms of painting buildings, clearing up grounds, and other auxiliary services rather than as
a regular labor force. In addition to possible Army and Navy
work, there are many opportunities for WPA projects that can
serve industrial and civilian requirements under the defense
program. Many more airports, more access roads and badly
needed communal facilities for defense boom towns can all be

progided very effectively by WPA labor.

Equally important is the fuller utilization of the WPA
in a unified training program. There are now more than
150,000 men on the WPA rolls qualified by special skills for
employment in defense industries. An additional 150,000 are

suitable for industrial training courses. Despite this, only
34,000 are currently assigned to the WPA vocational training
courses. An enlarged and coordinated training program would
not only help to expand defense production, but would also

transfer needy unemployed from work relief to industrial
defense work.

If the defense program is expanded to a size which

will enable it to utilize the man-power of the country, it
should be possible drastically to curtail the WPA appropriations. If OPM does its job properly, WPA can be out to almost
nothing. If OPM and the services cannot make plans to utilize

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the labor force of the country on defense tasks, then there
will continue to be a large volume of unemployed. The national
problem of unemployment will remain what is has hitherto been

namely, a choice of leaving people without anything to do or
devising machinery whereby they can do some useful work. In
the intermediate period when the scope of the defense program

and its method of organization have not yet been determined,
the WPA can serve as a defense projects administration whose

task it is to receive a large variety of defense projects
and to mobilize the otherwise unused labor force to carry out

these projects. This, too, would require considerable improvement over present methods of organization and planning, but

perhaps it is a more realizable objective than the complete

elimination of the need for work relief.
It is recommended that at least an additional 25 percent of the WPA projects be diverted from non-defense to
defense categories.
It is further recommended that plans be undertaken to

have the WPA utilize for defense -- either training or projects
the full capacity of our otherwise unemployed man-power.
Unless the defense program is enlarged much beyond our

present plans, it is not recommended that the WPA be cut by
more than the $450 million proposed decrease from fiscal
1941 expenditures.

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Agriculture

The expenditures for the current fiscal year and the

appropriations for the fiscal year 1942 for the agricultural
programs here considered are:

(Millions of dollars)
1941

Expenditures

1942

Appropriations and

contract authorizations

Parity Payments

$210

$212 1

Soil Conservation (AAA)

$475

$499

$ 67

$ 66

Farm Security Adminis-

tration

1

$450 million recommended by Senate Committee.

In the current fiscal year national income has increased
$10 billion, and it is generally agreed that an increase by

a further $10 billion to $95 billion, will take place in the
fiscal year 1942. In the past the Department of Agriculture
has consistently held that farm incomes are directly related
to industrial activity and to consumer purchasing power.
Although the surtailment of foreign markets adversely affects

particular crops (an effect partially offset by the estimated
$500 million of Lend-Lease exports of food production to
Britain), the coming year should see a marked increase in farm
income. In the face of these prospects, it seems possible and
desirable that some of the Federal Government's spending which

is designed to increase the incomes of farmers should be ourtailed.
Mr. Haas has already submitted a memorandum, one part of

which states that parity and soil conservation payments should
be examined with a view to possible ourtailment. Pending the

submission of the second report on Agriculture, it is necessary

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here merely to indicate the scope of possible savings on
the farm program.

Abandonment of parity payments under the Triple A pro-

gran would involve a saving of $212 million on the appropriation requested in the budget message of January, 1941 (or a
saving of $450 million, if reference is made to the Senate
Committee's recommendation). The chief beneficiaries of this
program are a small number of large-scale farmers.
The program of Soil Conservation administered by the

AAA is estimated to cost $475 million in the current fiscal
year, and approximately $500 million is recommended for it in
the fiscal year 1942. For the reason stated above, a substantial reduction in this program would seem to be desirable

at this time. If the budget request for soil conservation
payments were halved and parity payments abolished, the savings
on these two farm programs would be $450 million.

In order to offset the impact of the ourtailment suggested
above on the poorer farmers, it would be desirable to increase
the funds of the Farm Security Administration by a substantial
amount-- say $100 million.

In summary the following tentative recommendations are
made:

1. Eliminate parity payments and decrease soil conservation payments so as to realize budgetary savings of

from $450 to $550 million.
2. Increase Farm Security funds by $100 million so that:

3. A net saving of $350 to $450 million is realized on
the farm program.

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Over-all Budgetary Picture
The most recent estimate of the Federal Government's

budgetary expenditures in the fiscal year 1942, made by the

Budget Bureau, gives a total of approximately $22.2 billion.

This expenditure will result in a deficit of over $12.5
billion, without a change in our tax structure, or about $10
billion assuming that something like the Treasury tax program is passed by Congress.

of the $22.2 billion of expenditures, nearly threequarters-or $15.5 billion--18 classified by the Budget
Bureau as expenditure for national defense. In contrast,
the amount requested in the Budget Message of January 3,

1941 for the programs reviewed in this report was roughly
$2.2 billion. Since then there have been some increases
and decreases in the estimates, but the net change is not
great. The contemplated expenditures under these programs

remain roughly 10 percent of the total contemplated budgetary expenditures.

These figures indicate, first, that budgetary economy
is necessary and, second, that the magnitude of defense

expenditures is 80 great as severely to limit reduction in
total expenditures attainable even by the most severe economy
on non-defense items. It must be emphasized that price con-

trole and financial measures adequate to the prevention of
inflation, for example, will save the Government much more
money than any possible curtailment of non-defense expendi-

tures. Likewise, prices which do not allow unnecessarily

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large margins of profit on defense contracts are more important from the point of view of monetary savings than

curtailment of non-defense expenditures. If only 10 percent on the price the Government pays for armaments could

be saved, the savings would be greater than the total of
non-defense expenditures. These comparisons do not argue
against economy on the non-defense programs, but they

serve to remind us that the magnitude of non-defense expenditures is by no means our major budgetary problem.

In attempting to get a true picture of the non-defense
expenditures, it is necessary to consider three different
groups of budgetary figures. The first consists of requested
appropriations for regular expenditures and authorizations
as of January 3, 1941, or as amended by later requests; the
second consists of the appropriations for these same agencies which are classified as defense expenditures; and the

third consists of the strictly non-defense expenditures of
these same agencies.

Regular Expenditures. In the table which follows there
are set forth the ordinary expenditures of these agencies

for the fiscal year 1941. These are compared with the re-

quested appropriations for the fiscal year 1942. It is seen
that the budget recommendations of January 1941 involved a

out (exclusive of agriculture) of $340 million below the
expenditure for the fiscal year 1941. In the case of agriculture the budget recommendations involved an increase of

$25 million for the three programs which are dealt with here.

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Comparison of 1941 Expenditures and
1942 Appropriations as Requested in
Budget Message of January 1941
(Defense Items Excluded)
Estimated
Expenditures

for 1941

Budget's
Requested
Approp.

for 1942

CCC

$ 274

$ 270

NYA

95

102

Office of Education

28

29

Amendments

for 1942

$-

-

U. S. Employment Service
Payment to States

3

3

Grants to States for
employment office

administration
WPA

Total (excl. Agriculture)

61

63

1.325

975

875

$1,786

$1,442

$1,342

$ 475

$ 499

210

212

67

66

$ 752

$ 777

-

Agriculture:
Soil Conservation (AAA)
Parity Payments

Farm Security Administration

Total - Agriculture

-

450 1/
-

$1,015

1 Recommended by Senate Committee.

Defense Expenditures. Three of the above programs--

the NYA, the Office of Education, and the United States
Employment Service--are making additional expenditures for

defense training. The appropriations, as requested May 13,
1941, for the fiscal year 1942 are set forth below, together
with estimated expenditures on the same activities in the
fiscal year 1941.

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Estimated
Expenditures
for 1941
NYA

Office of Education
U. S. Employment Service

Total for Defense

Requested

Appropriations
for 1942

$31

$ 60

52

94

1.5

2

$85

$155.5

Most of the above $70 million increase for defense train-

ing is due simply to the fact that the defense training program was started after part of the fiscal year had elapsed.
In addition to the above sums budgeted for defense train-

ing, the OPM has certain consultative activities relating to
training within industry, money for which has been supplied
by the President's emergency funds.

"Concealed" Defense Expenditures. A third set of budgetary figures, showing the amounts which the above agencies

as at present organized are really spending on defense and

non-defense activities, is harder to construct. But rough
estimates are possible. They total $315 million as follows:
On a rough guess one-quarter of the WPA pro-

gram 1s at present devoted to defense tasks. The
corresponding figure for next year might be $225

million--assuming that conversion of WPA activities
into defense lines goes no further than at present.

A large and rapidly increasing share of activities of the U.S.E.S. costing $66 million may be
regarded as useful for defense, and therefore may be
reasonably included under defense expenditures.

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492

Perhaps $25 million of the $102 million regular
appropriation for the NYA should be classed as defense
expenditure.

The ordinary expenditures of all these agencies (exolud-

ing agriculture) are likely to total about $1,300 million.
of these contemplated "ordinary" expenditures about $315
million (as enumerated above) can fairly be regarded as de-

fense expenditures. Therefore, the non-defense portion of
these agencies' budgets is approximately $1 billion.

In summary, it is desirable to keep in mind the following points about the over-all budgetary picture of the agencies and programs considered in this report.
1. The appropriations requested for the ordinary budgets
(1.e. excluding defense appropriations) of the agencies dealing with training and labor supply for the next year are
approximately $1,440 million. The request for the three
agricultural programs here considered is $780 million. Thus

the total of "ordinary" expenditures is roughly $2.2 billion.
2. These requested appropriations of $2.2 billion rep=
resent a cut of over $300 million below the expenditures for
the fiscal year now ending, or, excluding agriculture, a out

of $340 millie
3. An additional $135 million is being out in this
area. Since Secretary Morgenthau spoke before the House on

this subject, the Administration has already recommended an

additional cut of $100 million in WPA appropriation, and it
is expected that there will be a out of perhaps $35 million
in the 000 program.

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4. For these programs (excluding agriculture), the
contemplated ordinary expenditures for the coming fiscal

year seem likely to total about $1,300 million. of this
total, approximately $315 million will be spent on activities which are important for defense -- if the present
organization of the programs is continued. Therefore, the
true non-defense expenditures for the fiscal year 1942 may

be said to be approximately $1 billion.
5. In addition to the above requested appropriations
of $1,300 million, three of these agencies have requested
defense appropriations for the training of workers which
amount to something more than $155 million. In order,
therefore, to get a better figure of what the agencies
surveyed will be spending on defense in the coming fiscal
year, the $315 million roughly estimated above as likely
to be spent on defense out of ordinary budgets, should be
added to the defense appropriation of $155 million, making
a total of about $475 million to be spent for defense by
these agencies.

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June 6, 1941

My dear Mr. President:
John Carmody has written me a letter enclosing
a copy of a memorandum from you, dated May 17, in re-

gard to the letting of a contract of 3,600,000 gallons
of asphalt for Eglin Field, Florida.
Attached hereto you will find a photostatic
copy of the report of the Director of Procurement on
this matter.

You will be pleased to note that the Allied
Materials, Inc., were given the contract as low bidder,
at an approximate saving of $25,000 as compared with
the second bidder, the Pan American Petroleum Company.

I think you will agree with me that Mr. Mack
proceeded in an entirely ethical and businesslike
manner in regard to the letting of this contract.
Yours sincerely,
(81gmed) E. Borgeather, Ss.

The President,
The White House.
Copy to:

Secretary of War

Mr. John Carmody

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

June 4, 1941

Memorandum for the Secretary of the Treasury:
Bids were opened March 31, 1941, by the Procurement

Officer, Jacksonville, Florida, for the furnishing of an estimated
quantity of 3,600,000 gallons of out back asphalt for Eglin Field,
Florida.

The low bid was submitted by Allied Materials, Inc.,

Atlanta, Georgia, based upon shipment on Government bill of lading

which results in lower transportation cost due to land grant rates.

The next low bidder, Pan American Petroleum Company, Pensacola,

Florida, protested any award being made on the bids received and

requested that all bids be rejected because of their objection to
the determination of the transportation costs and also requested

that the needs be readvertised and a personal hearing be granted.

Under date of April 22, 1941, Mr. Millard Caldwell,

representing the Pan American Petroleum Company, who was accompanied

by Senator Pepper, was given a hearing by me. They presented their
reasons why all bids should be rejected, stating, among other things,

that Allied Materials, Inc., could not perform the contract if awarded and that the only fair thing to do was to readvertise.
Because of the statements made on behalf of Pan American

Petroleum Company, indicating that the low bidder, Allied Materials,

Inc., could not perform the contract, representatives of Allied
Materials, Inc., were given a hearing under date of April 24, 1941,
and they furnished satisfactory proof of their ability to comply
with the requirements of the advertised specifications and satisfactorily perform the contract if award be made to them.

Accordingly, after careful consideration of all the
facts of record, it was determined by me that no basis existed for

rejecting the bids and award was made to the low bidder, Allied

Materials, Inc., under date of April 25, 1941, at a total price of

$224,853.12 job site as against a price of $250,560.00 job site
submitted by the Pan American Petroleum Company.

Is

Director of Procurement
Clinton E. Mack getter

436
FEDERAL WORKS AGENCY
WASHINGTON

May 31, 1941

OFFICE OF THE ADMINISTRATOR

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.
My dear Mr. Secretary:

Because of the President's misunderstanding of
the relationship of the Procurement Division to the Treasury,

I am taking the liberty of sending you a photostatic copy of

a memorandum he sent me a few days ago.

I do not know what part the Procurement Division

played in the matter the President refers to. I do know

that WPA was an innocent bystander that had a good deal of
pressure put upon it to change a contract award when one
group of asphalt dealers under-bid another group that apparently thought it had the business sewed up.
Sincerely,

John M. Carmody

Administrator

Enclosures

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May 31, 1941

The President
The White House

Washington, D. c.

My dear Mr. President:
Nothing would have happened to embarase the Admin-

istration or WPA or Procurement in the Eglin Field, Florida,
asphalt purchase if Senator Pepper had not tried to upset .
contract award made by Procurement.

WPA was doing an airport job for the Aray. Bids
were asked for asphalt. Pan America in Florida apparently
thought it had the business seeed up. A Georgia company
(both of them get their asphalt from Texas), slipped in with
a bid that took account of land grant rates for shipment of

federal materials by rail. This made them low. This sur-

prised the Florida boys who use barges to transport asphalt

from Texas to Florida. They got busy, They got their friends

to work on TPA, on the Army, and I understand on Precurement.
The bidding was regular and we know of no reason for switching.

I don't know how Tou Stekes get hold of the story
but I suspect the san who put in the low bid probably told his,
when he was in Washington to checkmate the Senater and some

Florida lawyers, she were trying to take his business away free
his after he triamed then. I understand they all know one
another very well and trust one another about as such as one
professional poker player trusts another.

The publicity was bad but the price of asphalt
dropped sharply on the next contract. Prosurement is a branch
of Treasury under Secretary Mergeathan and not part of Federal

Yorks Agency. Incidentally, three of our w boys who were
subjected to heat are before the Senate for confirmation. 2
think the way they steed their ground quietly is a crodit to

your Maintention.

Sincerely,

Saha S. Carmedy

438

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
May 17, 1941
MEMORANDUM FOR
HON. JOHN CARMODY

I know nothing of the merits of the recent

newspaper controversy concerning certain bids for
asphalt let for the paving of a runway on some
airport in Florida, I understand, however, that
the two agencies concerned are WPA and the Procurement Division, both of which are under your
direction.

I have even heard it stated that these
agencies plan to make it difficult for the Georgia
contractor who after much protest secured one con-

tract, because he "kicked up a stir" in the news-

papers. As I say, this may be just gossip. In

these particular days, I have, as you know, too
many problems to devote myself to the problem of an
asphalt bid. However, there may be something to all

this conversation. I wish you would look into the

matter, to make sure there is no "whitewash" of any
one concerned.

I will, of course, rely upon your discretion

t take whatever measures are necessary. I need
hardly point out the bad effect on public confidence

in our defense program if this sort of thing is true.

I need hardly add I have no idea whether it is true
or not.

for

F. D. R.

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Dr. Haas kept the report.

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JUN 6 1941

by dow Mr. Presidents

lost December 16. as you - result, $ was you agreesing my sorious

- over the capacity of the steel intentiye. is view of the immense 101

- of safence - civilian extens them in prospect. No expert knowledge

eeemed accessary as that time to foresse that the industry would be mobile

to bould the values of orders that lay about. and I gave you my opinion
that as institute major expension program eeemed clearly called for, to guard
against a stringmay in steel supplies that would react unfavorably on our
national economy and our fiscal program, as well as hinder our defense effort.

Is his first report to you last February, Mr. Dunn objected to in-

creasing our steel capacity on the ground that there was - shortage of posity, forecasting surpluses of 10 million tens this year and 2 million tons
in 1942. In his second report, he admits that steel capacity will be inadequate this year not greatly inadequate in 1942: but he still recommends
against increasing sapacity, this time on the ground that an expansion pro- would take two years, not would require steel new badly needed for do
fould purposes.

I disagree with My. Dunn's arguments against increasing our steel as

posity. There is as - that this will be a short sar, as Mr. Dunn

apparently visualises: on the centuary, we must prepare for the possibility
of a long ear, receiving the street of our productive capacity. I should
much prefer to see civilian consumption oursailed temporarily by as amount

accessary to provide the steel for - stool plants, than to see our national
economy threatened w a steel shortage for as indefinite period. I greatly
doubt that two years would be model to build new plants, if full defenseconstruction effort were directed toward that ead.
The objection of the steel companies that an increase in capacity at
this time would leave them with surgine espacity after the war seems to -

particularly what Union the world-wide competitive conditions of

the post-vest era, as abulant steel capacity of the most medern type should
prove one of our greatest assets. To eits our experience after the world
Var, although steel organity was increased from 44.5 million tons at the and
of 1913 to 61.0 million tens as the and of 1918, yet each year after the

Apalotice - a further expension, with so interruption until 1932.

In view of the increasingly urgent need for more steel, I wish to sepost, as - cames conviction, that - innodiate expension program for the
steel interestey seens clearly called for. The shortage of steel especity is
a fundamental problem now, - a problem which will procedd as the defense
effort expends.

The President,
The White House.

Faithfully years,
(Signed)

H.

Morgenthau,

Jr.

w

By Messenger 960

441
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1941.
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Thompson

Vaughn B. Ferguson, 31 years of age, is the man I mentioned as having

in mind to attach to the Administrative Office as soon as Ted Wilson reports
as Personnel Director. Ferguson is now a principal assistant in the Personnel
Division at $4,600 per annum. He is a Civil Service man and came to the Treasury in January, 1940, by transfer from the Soil Conservation Service at Albuquerque, New Mexico, where he was employed as Assistant Chief, Regional Per-

sonnel Management Division, at $3,800 per annum. Attached is copy of Civil

Service Form 375 which outlines his educational qualifications and various
employments. Charlie Bell and I have been observing him closely and turning

over important assignments to him/during the past year and we feel that he

has much ability and will develop into an excellent administrative officer.

for

A

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443
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Hense

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1941
TO

FROM

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
Alan Barth
FALTERING IN THE RANKS

Unity

Developments of the past week have sapped the sense of

resolution and exaltation which followed the President's fireside talk:

(1) The President's press conference on the day following
his radio address was construed, both by reporters and by

editorial commentators, as diluting the implications of his
emergency proclamation. It struck them as anti-climactic --

as a yielding to minority reluctance to run great risks of war.
(2) Isolationists, led by Wheeler and Lindbergh, declined
to acknowledge that the policy issue had been settled. They
went right on with the debate, suggesting that America has not

yet made a final choice even as to its leadership. An important
minority, stubborn and unconvinced, continues to oppose the
national program.

(3) The property expropriation bill sponsored by the War
Department opened a fresh cleavage. Almost all newspapers

denounced it as unnecessarily drastic. Some conservative

444

-2commentators argued that it constituted a New Deal attempt
to promote socialism under cover of the emergency.

(4) President Roosevelt's speech raised public opinion to
the expectation of swift and dramatic action. There appears
to have been a letdown, a sense of disappointment, when conditions under the unlimited emergency proved to be much the same
as they had been under the preceding limited emergency. News-

papers reflect, above all, a keen dissatisfaction over continued
strikes in defense industries. They are dejected over the
failure of all segments of the country to fuse miraculously
into a common purpose.

Yet, despite these fissures, national unity has undoubtedly
been advanced by the President's talk. The opposition has

thinned. Such stalwart critics of Administration tactics as
The Saturday Evening Post, The St. Louis Post-Dispatch and the

Knight papers -- Detroit Free Press, Akron Beacon Journal,
Miami Herald -- announced acceptance of the decision and pledged

full support to the President's leadership. Felix Morley, who
but lately espoused a negotiated peace acknowledging Hitlerian
domination of Europe, found in Mr. Roosevelt's words "American

leadership at its best." Throughout the country there has been

a squaring of shoulders, a lifting of heads, a preparation for
great events.

445

-3 Defense

Although the debate over national policy continues, it is
pitched now upon a somewhat different level. The President's
speech successfully shifted emphasis from aiding Britain to
defending the Western Hemisphere. Current editorial comment

shows general appreciation of the point that the vital American

problem is to prevent Axis control of Atlantic sea lanes or island
bases. The persistent question, consequently, is no longer if we

will go to war against Germany, but if Germany, to forestall our
defense, will go to war against us.
The press seems increasingly aware, also, of the fact that

this war is being fought on the psychological, as well as on the
military, plane. There are rather frequent editorial demands
for a more positive statement of democratic purposes.

Anthony Eden's recent outline of British war aims manifestly

did not satisfy this demand. It was politely applauded in some
American newspapers because it paid respects to President

Roosevelt's four freedoms and to Secretary Hull's plea for free
markets and free sources of raw materials. Other commentators,

however, were distressed by the British Foreign Minister's insistence on punitive measures against Germany and charged him

with traditional thinking out of which no fresh pattern of societal organization would be likely to emerge.

446

-4The demand at this stage -- and it comes mainly from liberal

sources -- is not for any rigid blueprint of peace terms, but for
the formulation of basic principles on which a rational political
and economic order can be built. Only by presenting an affirmative

program of this sort, the liberals insist, can democracy be given
the dynamism needed to combat the so-called new order of the

totalitarians.
Discouragement

Newspapers focussed American attention on the Battle of

Crete. Because of the novelty and drama of the struggle there,
the defeat suffered by the British seemed far more impressive

than the victory which they won at about the same time in Iraq.
Editorial opinion, consequently, is extremely pessimistic over

the entire British situation in the Mediterranean.
The Cretan disaster has been attributed by a good many

military commentators to inferior generalship, as well as to
inferior equipment. There appears to be a growing feeling here,
in fact, that the British have been outgeneraled by the Germans

all along the line. And this distrust of British military leadership is being cast in some degree upon our own Army and Navy chiefs.

There is suspicion that they are exhibiting less imagination and
daring in their war plans than the German General Staff.

447
-5The form which this criticism most commonly takes in the
American press is a demand for an independent air force. Amateur
strategists have been suddenly persuaded by the German aerial

triumph over Crete and by the sinking of the Bismarck, partially
through the use of naval planes, that great armies and navies
may be outmoded. Our Generals and Admirals will no doubt be

subjected to a quantity of clamor for some time to come. The

public is beginning to think in terms of military tactics rather
than of diplomatic strategy.

448
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1941

Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.

TO

FROM

Herbert Merillat
PRESS TAX OPINION: EPT PLAN DIES UNMOURNED

Press comment on taxes continues to be small in volume.
There is an air of watchful waiting as the Ways and Means Com-

mittee gets down to the business of writing a tax bill. Meanwhile the press is absorbed in other matters.
Excess Profits Tax

The press seems to have taken for granted the demise of the
Treasury's excess profits tax plan in the Ways and Means Commit-

tee. Press opponents of the plan were confident from the outset

that this would be its fate. Neither the announcement of the
Treasury plan nor its quiet death in Committee aroused the
comment which could have been expected if the Committee had shown

signs of favoring the EPT proposals. So far there has been no
editorial comment on Secretary Morgenthau's statement indicating

that efforts will be made to revive the victim.
The Committee cannot base its rejection of the Treasury's
EPT program on any widespread press demand for such action. True,

the plan was attacked by the oracles of business and papers

449

-2which consistently oppose almost any Administration proposal,
but smaller papers in general have been noncommittal toward
the Treasury plan and have emphasized the need of an effective
EPT. The Treasury proposals have frequently been misrepresented

in the press. One anti-Administration stalwart asserted that
the Treasury regards 4 per cent on invested capital as a proper
maximum return for all corporations.
The 2/3 - 1/3 Formula

With regard to the Budget Bureau's report that Federal

expenditures in the fiscal year 1942 are likely to exceed 22 billions, headlines have announced that the Treasury expects to
abandon its formula to raise 2/3 of the needed money by taxation,

1/3 by borrowing. The Wall Street Journal attributed the dropping

of the formula to Treasury fears that Congress will balk at
raising even as much as 3 billions by additional taxes.
U. S. and British Taxes
Reversing the earlier tendency to say that Americans are

not taxed as heavily as the British, the press in recent weeks
has circulated fairly widely the report of the Tax Foundation
showing that the American per capita tax burden was about the

same as the British before the war, and is soon likely to be as

450

-3great as the present British burden. The report of the staff
of the Joint Committee on Internal Revenue Taxation, to the same

effect, is now getting publicity. Collier's has devoted an
editorial to the same story.
Prepayment of Taxes

The Treasury's plan to issue certificates which can be used
to pay taxes has continued to meet almost universal approval. The
only sour notes have come from a very few conservative papers which
deplore the plan as an encouragement of loose personal budgeting.
Sales Tax

The Wall Street Journal and Nation's Business still speak
hopefully of a general sales tax and predict that Congress will

seriously consider such a tax. A syndicated editorial, praising
the tax as a money-getter and pointing out La Guardia's apostasy

on the sales tax issue, continues to get fairly wide circulation
in small-town papers.

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[PUBLIC LAW 101-77TH CONGRESS]
[CHAPTER 174-1ST SESSION]
[H. R. 4466]
AN ACT
To authorize the acquisition by the United States of title to or the use of domestic
or foreign merchant vessels for urgent needs of commerce and national defense,
and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That whereas Congress has power to provide for the common defense and general welfare
and to regulate commerce with foreign nations and whereas for this

purpose embargo Acts and nonintercourse Acts have from time to
time been passed and whereas the commerce of the United States is at
the present time interrupted and the general welfare of its citizens is

threatened and an emergency has been declared. for the purposes
of national defense, during the existence of the national emergency
declared by the President on September 8, 1939. to exist, but not after
June 30. 1912. the President is authorized and empowered, through
such agency or officer as he shall designate, to purchase, requisition,
for any period during such emergency charter or requisition the use of,
or takeover the title to, or the possession of, for such use or disposition as

he shall direct, any foreign merchant vessel which is lying idle in
waters within the jurisdiction of the United States, including the
Philippine Islands and the Canal Zone, and which is necessary to the
national defense: Provided. That just compensation shall be determined and made to the owner or owners of any such vessel in accord-

ance with the applicable provisions of section 902 of the Merchant
Marine Act. 1936. as amended: Provided further, That such compensa-

tion hereunder shall be deposited with the Treasurer of the United
States. and the fund so deposited shall be available for the payment
of such compensation, and shall be subject to be applied to the payment

of the amount of any valid claim by way of mortgage or maritime
lien or attachment lien upon such vessel, or of any stipulation therefor in a court of the United States, or of any State, subsisting at the
time of such requisition or taking of title or possession; the holder of
any such claim may commence within six months after such deposit
with the Treasurer and maintain in the United States District Court
from whose custody such vessel has been or may be taken or in whose
territorial jurisdiction the vessel was lying at the time of requisitioning
or taking of title or possession, a suit in admiralty according to the
principles of libels in rem against the fund. which shall proceed and
be heard and determined according to the principles of law and to the
rules of practice obtaining in like cases between private parties; and

such suit shall be in the manner provided by section 2 of

the Suits in and service of process

manner Admiralty
commenced
Unitedupon
shall the
States be made attorney in the
therein provided
by Act
service

and by mailing by registered mail to the Attorney General and the
United States Maritime Commission and due notice shall under order
of the court be given to all interested persons, and any decree shall be

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(Pus. Law

subject to appeal and revision as now provided in other cases of
admiralty and maritime jurisdiction: Provided further, That if the
Maritime Commission, after consideration by it of evidence submitted

to it within ten days after the approval of this Act, shall find that on
September 3. 1939, and continuously thereafter. any vessel was exclusively owned, used and operated for its exclusive sovereign purposes
by a sovereign nation making claim therefor, such vessel may be taken
under this section only by purchase or charter; and in determining said
ownership, use and operation the Commission shall disregard (1) all
contributions made in whole or in part at any time to the construction,
repair, reconditioning, equipping or operation of said vessel, (2) all

such matters, in nature similar to or dissimilar from, the foregoing

clause as in the opinion of the Commission are immaterial or irrelevant

to the determination of such ownership. Use of such vessel at any
time since September 3, 1939, in commercial trade shall be presumptively deemed to show that said vessel is not owned, used and operated
by a sovereign nation for its sovereign purposes. The final determination by the Maritime Commission shall be conclusive: Provided further,
That if any vessel shall be found under the proviso next preceding to
be exclusively owned, used and operated by any sovereign nation SO
that it can only be chartered or purchased, and such vessel shall be
chartered or purchased, then the cash to be paid for said charter or
purchase, to the extent that may be necessary, after payment of existing
claims and liens of creditors against said vessel, shall be held for application upon such debt, if any, as may be due to the United States from

the sovereign nation so found to have exclusive ownership to said
vessel: Provided further, That the Maritime Commission and the
Department of Justice are authorized to make just provisions out of
funds provided in section 2 of this Act for employees displaced by
the taking of any ship hereunder and report to the Congress their
action within thirty days after the enactment of this Act.
SEC. 2. Funds appropriated by the Act of March 27, 1941 (Public
Law 23, Seventy-seventh Congress), are hereby made available to
carry out the provisions of section 1 hereof, including payment of
the costs of repair, reconstruction, or reconditioning necessary or
incidental to the use or disposition under this Act of vessels acquired,
or the use or possession of which is acquired, under such section.
SEC. 3. (a) During the national emergency declared by the President on September 8, 1939, to exist, but not after June 30, 1942, the
United States Maritime Commission, whenever it finds that vessels
in addition to those otherwise available are necessary for transporta-

tion of foreign commerce of the United States or of commodities
essential to the national defense, is authorized, notwithstanding any
other provision of law, (1) to charter any vessel, whether undocumented or documented under the laws of the United States or of a
foreign country, deemed by the Commission to be suitable for such
transportation, without regard to the provisions of section 3709 of
the Revised Statutes, on a time-charter or bare-boat basis, upon such
terms and conditions, and for such period or periods, as the Commission may deem necessary or desirable in the public interest, and
at such rate of hire as it may deem to be fair and reasonable in view
of the attendant circumstances, and (2) to charter any vessel chartered by the Commission under clause (1) hereof to a private oper-

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ator, a citizen of the United States (including a corporation,
nership, or association, only if it is a citizen of the United States part.

within the meaning of section 2 of the Shipping Act, 1916, as
amended), or to any department or agency of the United States
Government, without regard to the provisions of title VII of the
Merchant Marine Act, 1936, on time-charter or bare-boat basis, for
use in any foreign trade or service or as otherwise hereinafter
vided, upon such terms and conditions, for such period or periods, proand subject to such restrictions as the Commission may deem necessary or desirable for the protection of the public interest, and at such
rate of hire as it may deem to be fair and reasonable. Any department or agency of the United States Government is authorized to
enter into such charters. All moneys received by the Commission

under the provisions of this subsection shall be deposited in the
construction fund of the Commission, and all disbursements made by
the Commission in carrying out the provisions of this subsection shall
be paid from such fund.

(b) The Commission is authorized to provide such insurance and
reinsurance with respect to vessels (including any interest of the
owner or charterer) chartered, purchased, requisitioned, or the title
to which or the possession of which is taken over, under this Act, as
it may deem necessary in connection with the operation, use, or disposition thereof under this Act, whenever it appears to the Commission that adequate and satisfactory insurance is not otherwise
obtainable at reasonable rates and upon reasonable terms and condi-

tions, The fund established pursuant to Public Resolution Numbered 94, Seventy-sixth Congress, approved July 18, 1940 (54 Stat.
766). shall be available for all purposes of this subsection: and all
moneys received from premiums and from salvage or other recoveries
and all receipts in connection with such insurance shall be deposited
to the credit of such fund. and all disbursements made by the Commission in carrying out the provisions of this subsection. including

the payment of return premiums and all liabilities incurred hereunder. shall be paid from such fund. The provisions of sections 225

and 226 (a) to (e), inclusive, of the Merchant Marine Act, 1936,
as amended, shall be applicable in the administration of this
subsection.

(c) Nothing in this Act shall be construed to modify or affect any
provision of the Neutrality Act of 1939. as amended.
SEC. 4. Whenever the United States Maritime Commission is authorized to charter vessels under section 3 hereof, it is further authorized,
notwithstanding any other provision of law. to purchase any vessel,
whether undocumented or documented under the laws of the United

States or of a foreign country, deemed by the Commission to be
suitable for transportation of foreign commerce of the United States
or of commodities essential to the national defense. without regard to
the provisions of section 3709 of the Revised Statutes, at such price
and upon such terms and conditions as it may deem fair and reasonable and in the public interest. Such vessels and vessels otherwise
acquired by or made available to the Commission may be chartered
as provided in section 3 of this Act, or operated by the Commission the
upon such terms and conditions as it may deem desirable and in
public interest, giving primary consideration to the needs of national

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defense: but no vessel constructed under the provisions of the Mer.
chant Marine Act, 1936, as amended, may be chartered to a private
operator hereunder. All moneys received by the Commission under
the provisions of this section shall be deposited in the construction
fund of the Commission, and all disbursements made by the Commis-

sion in carrying out the provisions of this section or section 5 (f)

(except as provided in section 2) shall be paid from such fund.
SEC. 5. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, during
the effective period of section 3 of this Act, any vessel (except a
vessel constructed under the provisions of the Merchant Marine Act,
1936, as amended), not documented under the laws of the United
States, acquired by or made available to the Commission under this
Act or otherwise, may (1) in the discretion of the Secretary of Com.
merce be documented as a vessel of the United States under such
rules and regulations or orders, and with such limitations, as the
Secretary of Commerce may prescribe or issue as necessary or appropriate to carry out the purposes and provisions of this Act; and (2)
in accordance with the provisions of subsection (c) hereof engage in
the coastwise trade when so documented. Any document issued to a
vessel under the provisions of this Act shall be surrendered at any
time that such surrender may be ordered by the Secretary of Commerce. No vessel, the surrender of the documents of which has been
so ordered, shall, after the effective date of such order, have the status
of a vessel of the United States unless documented anew.
(b) Notwithstanding any other provisions of law, the President
may, by rules and regulations or orders.waive compliance with any
provision of law relating to masters, officers, members of the crew,
or crew accommodations on any vessel documented under authority
of this Act to such extent and upon such terms as he finds necessary
because of the lack of physical facilities on said ships, and because

of the need to employ aliens for their operation. No vessel shall
cease to enjoy the benefits and privileges of a vessel of the United
States by reason of the employment of any person in accordance
with the provisions of this subsection.
(c) Any vessel while documented under the provisions of this Act,
when chartered hereunder by the Commission to other Government
agencies or departments or to private operators, may engage in the
coastwise trade under permits issued by the Commission, which is
hereby authorized to issue permits for such purpose pursuant to such
rules and regulations as it may prescribe. The Commission is hereby
authorized to prescribe such rules and regulations as it may deem
necessary or appropriate to carry out the purposes and provisions of
this Act.

(d) The second paragraph of section 9 of the Shipping Act, 1916,
as amended, shall not apply with respect to vessels chartered to other
Government agencies or departments or to private operators under
section 3 or section 4 of this Act.

(e) Existing laws covering the inspection of steam vessels are
hereby made applicable to vessels documented under this Act only
to such extent and upon such conditions as may be required by the
regulations of the Board of Supervising Inspectors with the approval

of the Secretary of Commerce: Provided, That in determining to
what extent those laws should be made applicable, due consideration

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shall be given to the primary purpose of transporting commodities
essential to the national defense.

(f) The Commission without regard to the provisions of section
3709 of the Revised Statutes may repair, reconstruct, or recondition
any vessels to be utilized under this Act. Any other Government
department or agency by which any vessel is acquired or chartered,
or to which any vessel is transferred or made available under this
Act may, with the aid of any funds available, and without regard
to the provisions of said section 3709, repair, reconstruct, or recondition any such vessels to meet the needs of the services intended,
or provide facilities for such repair, reconstruction, or reconditioning.
(g) In case of voyage of a vessel documented under the provisions
of this Act is begun before the date of termination of the effective
period of section 3, but is completed after such date, the provisions
of this section shall continue in effect with respect to such vessel
until such voyage is completed.

(h) When used in this Act, the term "documented" means "registered" and "enrolled and licensed".

Approved, June 6, 1941, 11 a. m., E.S.T.

452
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

When we received the attached cablegram of May 7 from Ambassador Armour at

Buenos Aires, you asked me to look into the question of the movement of dollar

funds to Argentina, with the view to possibly setting forth information on this
point in a letter to Secretary Hull.
Since that time we have studied this question rather carefully and have ob-

tained considerable data from the Federal Reserve Bank at New York. The appended
memorandum prepared by Mr. Hawkey summarises the situation, from which it would

appear that there is no real basis for a communication from the Treasury to the

State Department.

The most interesting point developed is that Argentina's net exports to the
United States in the first quarter of this year yielded nearly $20,000,000. This
certainly indicates a better situation in Argentina's foreign exchange position
vis-a-vis the United States than Mr. Prebisch anticipated when he was negotiating
the Argentine Stabilisation arrangement with us. As you are aware, the Argentine
Parliament has not ratified this agreement. Consequently, it was not possible for
the Argentine Government to give us the thirty days' notice required for extension
of this agreement, which was drafted to expire on June 30 of this year.

BMK.

453
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 2, 1941
TO

Mr. Cogitan

FROM

Mr. Hawkey

Subject: Movement of Funds to Argentina.
An Argentine cable dated May 7 (No. 407 from the American Embassy in Buonos Aires)

observes that there has been an "increasing influx of dollars seeking investment in
Argentina", with an inflow of $25 million on May 4 and 5 reported by the Buenos Aires
exchange market. This report may refer (1) to transfers of foreign-owned (non-Argentine)

dollar balances from this country to Argentina, or (2) to the repatriation of Argentineowned funds. In either case, our information suggests that the report is greatly
exaggerated.

1, From our records, it appears that no appreciable transfer of foreign-owned dollar
balances to Argentina has occurred this year, either by conversion into pesos or by the
acquisition of third-party dollar deposits on the books of Argentine banks. Resort to
either of these two methods of capital transfer would lead to a corresponding rise in
Argentine gold and dollar holdings here, assuming that Argentine banks, when crediting a
foreigner with a dollar deposit on their books, follow the conservative banking practice of
holding a counter-value in dollars or gold in their own New York accounts. (They might
hold the counter-value in the form of American securities; our S.E.C. reports, however,
inuccate that Latin American security purchases have not been overly large this year.)
Emmination of changes in Argentine gold and dollar balances since the end of last year
reveals that their total holdings only rose $14.3 million between the end of last year and
May 21, 1941.

Argentine Short-term Balances in New York

(In millions of dollars)

Central Bank - Gold and Dollars
Private banks - Dollars
Total

12/31/40

4/30/41

5/21/41

$ 88.7

$ 110.2

$ 126.3

97.9

89.5

74.6

$186.6

$ 199.7

$ 200.9

Moreover, since Argentina's net exports to the United States in the first quarter of this
year yielded nearly $20 million, it seems clear that most of the rise in Argentine holdings
as resulted from the accumulation of dollars on trade account. This conclusion is
supported by a study of movements in Argentine dollar accounts. The increase of $37.6

in Central
to mainly
transfers
from
million
holdings Bank
was due
private
Argentine balances

office An examination has one

principally from the dollar accounts of the Banco de la Provincia, Banco de la Nacion and

of thelarger
the dollar
B.A. deposits
of the Bank
London
and
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of
of bothofthe
Banco de
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and thebeen
Bancomade
de la Nacion.
It has been found that no large sums have been paid into these accounts; such credits as
been received represent largely the proceeds of Argentine exports or other legitimate
transactions.

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There is no doubt that some movement of foreign capital to Argentina has occurred:
In the exchange market, the free peso has experienced occasional periods
of strength in terms of the dollar, and more than once, these periods have

been accompanied by American "freesing" rumors and a reported European demand

for pesos. But the free peso market is extremely thin, and a relatively small
demand exerts an undue influence on the rate.

As for foreigners building up dollar deposits with Argentine banks, this
method of capital transfer has been used at least to an extent sufficient to
bring about the adoption of preventive measures by the Argentine authorities.
In a circular issued by the Argentine Central Bank on May 12, the latter
reported that Argentine commercial banks have frequently received offers of
foreign money deposits from abroad, only a part of which have been accepted
by the banks, owing to the unproductive nature of such deposits, and the
unnecessary risks involved (referring, no doubt, to the complications resulting
from a general freezing order here). The Central Bank requested the banks not
to accept any more foreign money deposits appearing to represent flight capital,
and urged that the banks bring about the conversion of existing foreign money
deposits into Argentine pesos.
2. From the table shown above, it can be seen that Argentine commercial banks have
rensferred sizable amounts of dollars to the Central Bank, presumably receiving pesos in
exchange. The reports contained in cable No. 407 may conceivably refer to this repatria-

ion of private Argentine funds as an "influx of dollars seeking investment". But a
ratriation of $25 million within two days seems highly improbable; our figures indicate
it the commercial banks turned over to the Central Bank only $15 million during the
first three weeks of May.

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C.3.2 60M 9-40

SPICE CORRESPONDENCE

Federal Reserve Bank
of New York

Date: June 6, 1941.

Files
from: L. W. Knoke

Mr. Buck of Central Hanover Bank & Trust Co. called today to say that
they had received in United States currency $180,720 from Gerhard Schuts,

80 Wall Street (the representative in the United States of Reichskredi tges-

ellschaft) with instructions to credit the amount to the Banco de la Nacion
Argentina, Buenos Aires, for account of the Reichskreditgesellschaft, Berlin.

This is the second such payment within eight days. In the first case
Central Hanover received the following day a cable from Buanos Aires request-

ing them to pay the amount to the debit of the account of the Banco de la
Nacion Argentina to the Chase National Bank for account of the Reichabank.

Mr. Buck is expecting similar instructions in this instance.
The notes were turned in to us today by the Central Hanover. The bundles

are all in our original straps and our original binders. I looked them
over this afternoon and found that the 100's show the date May 7. 1941, the
20's September 13. 1940, the 50's December 6, 1939. or possibly earlier.

All dates, I am told, were put on by the Federal Reserve Bank and indicate
the day on which the notes were counted. The 100's also bear the stamp
May 19, 1939. This, I understand, was the day on which the packages were
made up in Washington. The 100's and the 50's all show in pencil the number
23 which may be the Guaranty Trust Company Clearing House number. The 20's
showed no such number.
LWK:KW

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of New York

MISC. 3.2 60M 9-40

OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE

Date: June 6, 1941.

for Files

From: L. W. Knoke

Several days ago Mr. Funck, of the Chase National Bank,

called to say that they had received in San Francisco from the
Chase in Shanghai two shipments of U. S. currency totaling $550,000.

He estimated that for the whole of 1941 the total of such shipments
did not exceed $1,000,000 and that in 1940 the amount had been

very small. They had recently advised their Shanghai office that
if it wanted to make currency shipments to the States, New York

wanted to be advised first and incidentally wanted to have the
insurance covered here. They had also indicated to Shanghai that
they presumed Shanghai would not handle the business if there was

any Axis interest in these shipments. Since the last shipment had
arrived Mr. Funck said Shanghai had advised him that there were no
more coming.

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

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reply refer to
862. 51/4866

June 6, 1941

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and transmits
for his information and for such comment as he may desire
to make a copy of a memorandum dated May 16, 1941 con-

cerning transactions of W. V. Gibara & Co., 61 Broadway,

New York, in German securities, together with a cony of
a memorandum dated May 20, 1941, reporting the circumstances

under which Mr. Stephen C. Kollmar, counsel for W. V.
Gibara & Co., left the memorandum at the Department of
State on May 20, 1941.

Enclosures:

1. Memorandum of
May 16, 1941.
2. Memorandum of
May 20, 1941.

458
c OPY
W. V. Gibara & Co.
Sixty-one Broadway
New York

May 16, 1941.

Following transactions were completed during the past

three weeks -

(1) We bought from Lamborn, Troup & Co. (ex Forstmann
estate) 147,000. Reichemarks par value of Siemens
& Halake A. G. common shares for $22,000 cash.
(2) We bought from Lamborn, Troup & Co. (ex Forstmann
estate) 500,000. Reichsmarks par value of Deutsche
Bank und Disconto-Gesellschaft common shares for
$38,000. cash.

(3) Bought from U.S. and Foreign Securities Corporation,

Jersey City, N.J., their claim against Vereinigte
Stahlworke A.G., Duesseldorf, in the amount of
$540,000., payable in ten annual instalments, for
$40,000. cash.

On all transactions we paid cash to the sellers while
disposing of the shares and/or claim against blockmarks
which were successively sold in Switzerland and Germany

against dollars in New York.
In addition we have also commenced to make cash

advances against bills covering exports to South America
from this country.
W. V. GIBARA & CO.
By W. G.

Stephen C. Kollmar, Esq.,
500 Fifth Avenue,
New York, N. Y.

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

OFFICE OF THE ADVISER ON INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC AFFAIRS

May 20, 1941
ACTIVITIES OF W. V. GIBARA & CO. IN REPATRIATION OF
GERMAN SECURITIES

Mr. Stephen C. Kollmar.
Mr. Livesey.
Mr. Riddleberger.

Having telephoned from New York yesterday for an

appointment to discuss matters of interest to W. V. Gibara
& Co., Mr. Kollmar came down by plane early this morning.

He referred to the fact that his cousin, Herman
Kollmar, had joined the firm of W. V. Gibara & Co. May 1
and said that Mr. Von Gibara and Mr. Herman Kollmar, in

view of the possible interest attaching to their activities
in dealing with German securities, wished to keep the
Department informed thereof and to make full disclosure

of what they were doing. In this connection he mentioned
the Dies Committee. He brought forth a single-page statement dated May 16 and signed by Mr. Von Gibara, listing
three transactions completed during the past three weeks,

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involving the purchase of obligations of German companies
in the amount of 647,000 reichsmarks and $540,000, and

said that Von Gibara & Co. are operating in this field
of buying securities for cash and selling them to concerns
in Buenos Aires for blocked marks which they sell in
Switzerland and Germany against dollars in New York.

Mr. Livesey said that having regard to Mr. Kollmar's
statement that he was making disclosures of these activities

as a self-protective matter, it must be understood that
in bringing such information to the Department of State
he was not submitting it to anyone having competent

authority to pass upon it in any way as to legality or

propriety or otherwise. Such activities are in a field
subject to a variety of laws and regulations which concern
different administrative and law-enforcing bodies. Such

information is of interest from many points of view but
Messrs. Livesey and Riddleberger were in no way competent

to pass on these activities in a way which would protect
W. V. Gibara & Co.

Mr. Kollmar said he was satisfied as to the legality
of the operations. Mr. Von Gibara and Mr. Herman Kollmar
had very good business connections in Germany arising from

their financial experience there in the past few years,
during which, for example, Mr. Kollmar had passed long

periods in Berlin as an officer of the Chemical National

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Bank engaged in collecting outstanding credits of the bank
in Germany. They had gone into these activities because

of their ability to handle transactions of this kind and
because they could make money doing it. For example, in
the third item, which concerns the purchase of $540,000
claims against Vereinigte Stahlworks A.G. for $40,000,
they had sold the claims for $60,000, netting them some

$18,000 profit. The previous owner, United States and

Foreign Securities Corporation, was an affiliate of Dillon,
Reed & Company. He displayed a letter setting forth the
purchase arrangement and describing the claims as having

arison under a contract made in 1927. Under the other
two items they had acquired two lots of German securities
which had been held in the Forstmann estate and had found

a customer for them. He assumed that the purchases might
ultimately be for account of the German companies whose

securities or obligations were thus repatriated to Europe
and probably purchased by the companies at a discount and

credited at par on their books.
In reply to questions he said that W. V. Gibara & Co.
were not the only people engaged in this business but that

they probably did a very large part of it. Herman Kollmar
left the service of the Chemical National Bank voluntarily
in view of the public attention. comment and odium which

had followed from mention of his name in a report of the

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Dies Committee. He had put a certain amount of money in

with Mr. Von Gibara in order to build up working capital.
The enterprise has a working capital of about $100,000 and

can get credit if it engages in transactions which cannot
be handled for that amount of capital. It banks with the
Irving Trust Company. He did not know from whom payments

for the blocked marks sold for Von Gibara account were

received. They would merely receive notice from the Irving
Trust Company that the latter had received instructions to
credit such and such amount to their account. The Irving
Trust Company would of course know on whose instructions

it acted, but they would not know.
He volunteered that they were in the business merely
to make money. What they make remains in the United States.

Mr. Von Gibara paid $25,000 income tax to the United States
on his 1940 income of $63,000 although he has been in this

line of business only since last October. They had also
thought of going into shipbuilding. They are business men
seeking ways to make money. The South American transactions

mentioned in the last paragraph of Mr. Von Gibara's were a

now venture unrelated to their activities in German securities.
In further explanation he said that there are many
Jews in New York owning German securities or claims on

German organizations. Von Gibara & Co. deal with them on
the one side and with the Germans on the other. They

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-would be very glad at any time to have any representative
of the United States Government come to their office, look

over their books and inquire into their activities.
He said that in addition to their dealings with
Americans, Mr. Von Gibara had also had dealings with

English sellers of German securities or of claims on

Germany, including standstill credits. These transactions
had of course to be made under permit of the Bank of
England and the Ministry of Economic Warfare. Unexpectedly

two consignments of securities in transit to Buenos Aires,
one of which was securities which they had purchased from
British sources under these auspices, had been held by

the British censors at Trinidad. Mr. Kollmar said he
had asked the services of their London counsel, Slaughter
& May, and had received from them a telegram which he

produced, which said that the British attitude on these
matters had changed on its being discovered that the

securities were being sold to Germans. Mr. Kollmar

smiled at this "discovery" and said that these transactions had been going through with British approval as
recently as March. Possibly these April deals had merely

fallen into the wrong hands. He still thinks, confidentially,
that in spite of this unexpected hitch the British wish to
continue collection of standstill credits from Germany
through this procedure, which enables the British to obtain

dollars for these blocked credits.

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In these transactions, title passes to Germans at
Buenos Aires. The securities are presumably shipped to

Europe via the Italian air line. He had heard that
several hundred bonds had been lost when an Italian airliner crashed.
Asked whether the three items totalling $100,000 cash

spent by the firm in "transactions completed during the

past three weeks" was a full statement of the firm's
transactions during that period, he said the firm has
not been active in picking up small lots of securities
which were frequently offered them. There is some market

for such securities in New York but it is not very active
and he thinks German repatriation transactions at the
present time involve much smaller amounts than they did
some time ago. Some months ago Mr. Von Gibara's purchases,

he thought, had caused prices to rise. The Germans will

buy at a price but will not follow prices up no matter
how long they have to wait. Of course if Germany wine the
war, holders will have a very good thing; if Germany loses,

the securities will be worth nothing.
Mr. Kollmar talked very easily and with an apparent

wish to give any desired information. He had evidently
brought along a number of documents on which he found no

occasion to draw during the discussion.

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-7Mr. Livesey said that he would make a report on the

conversation and it would be circulated to various other
officers for their information and possible comment.
Mr. Kollmar asked whether it would go outside the Department.

Mr. Livesey said he could accept no stipulation that it
should not. Mr. Riddleberger suggested that Mr. Kollmar
meant "outside the Government". Mr. Kollmar accepted
this suggestion and said he hoped information would not be

given to private parties or to the Dies Committee, which
would be sure to make a big noise about it. He added the

firm is glad to give full information regarding completed
transactions, but would prefer not to do so concerning
uncompleted transactions, where the business might be lost

to the firm if information leaked out.
Mr. Livesey said he did not know whether the
Department would care to have Mr. Kollmar come down from

time to time to make oral reports, as he suggested, or
make written reports, as he had also suggested. Information

in his field has a certain interest of course from several
points of view. Mr. Kollmar said he hoped the Department would
write him concerning his suggestions in a week or two.

Mr. Riddleberger left but Mr. Kollmar lingered on for
a moment or two contemplating his mission. He volunteered

that the firm some time since went to the Justice Depart-

ment agents in New York and told them all about their activities.

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It was at this point that he spoke in a confidential way of the

firm's expectation that the British will still wish to liquidate
German credits through the firm in spite of their "discovery" of
what they have been doing. He referred again to the Dies
Committee and to the heated atmosphere. Finally he said that

if my report elicited adverse comment on the firm's activities,
they might be disposed to discontinue them.

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

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reply refer to
A 840.51 Frozen Credits/1814
June 6, 1941

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses
two copies of a paraphrase of telegram no. 297 dated
May 28, 1941 from the American Legation at Budapest,
Hungary, regarding Hungarian funds which are blocked in
the United States.

Enclosure:

No. 297, May 28,

from Budapest. (2)

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
TO:

American Legation, Budapest, Hungary.

DATE:

May 28, 1941, 10 p.m.

NO.:

297.

Reference is made to the Legation's telegrams nos.
288 and 315 dated May 15 (6 p.m.) and May 24 (2 p.m.),

respectively.
It would appear that the Hungarian Government does

not have a clear picture of the matter. The Treasury
Department has granted licenses permitting all payments
requested for expenses of the Hungarian diplomatic and

consular establishments in this country, and it knows
of no warning that the use of the Hungarian Legation's
cash for such expenditures for June would not be allowed.

In fact the Treasury has now in the regular course issued
a license for the payment of such expenses for June and
such payments may be made out of the Legation's cash if

so desired by the Legation.
Concerning the funds for the upkeep of the Hungarian
missions in South America, Treasury has authorized the
transfer of $20,000 to the Hungarian Legation in Buenos
Aires and $20,000 to the Hungarian Legation in Rio de
Janeiro from the cash funds which the Hungarian Legation
at Washington holds. Department understands that the
amounts transferred were adequate to cover current needs.

Difference of opinion existed only on the question of
lump-sum payments to Hungarian missions in South America

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-which would be enough to take care of their requirements

over a three-year period. The policy and practice of the
Treasury is not to authorize transfers covering periods
as long as three years; however, the Treasury has in the

past and is willing in the instant case to authorize
transfers to cover current expenditures on a monthly
basis or some other basis that is reasonable.
The Treasury has met every request presented to

it with regard to the expenses of the Hungarian missions
in Canada and for repatriation of the Hungarian missions
in Great Britain and Canada, including the payment of

$10,000 which recently was licensed to cover traveling
expenses of the Hungarian mission returning from the

British Isles via New York.
No licenses covering the expenses of the Hungarian
mission in Japan have been granted by the Treasury but,
considering the circumstances, the Treasury is prepared

to authorize transfers of funds from the cash which the
Legation holds to cover current expenses of the Hungarian
mission in Japan on a monthly basis or some other basis

of a reasonable kind. Treasury will do the same with
regard to the expenses in Portugal and Spain.

In the event that the above arrangements are, in

your discretion, insufficient to adjust the matter, you
may inform the Hungarian Government that the Treasury

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will license the lump-sum payments which are desired by
the Hungarian Government as soon as an American bank

receives a deposit of the cash funds.
HULL

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840.51 Frozen Credits/1814
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Memo for Secretary:
Appended is a memorandum which I would

like to have you glance at.
) It is a preliminary and incomplete draft
which I can shorten, tone down, tighten up,
and modify if you think that the general idea
contained therein can be of any use to you.
6/6/41

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STRICTLY CONFIDENTED. White
May 1941

I.

The Franco-British brand of diplomacy emulated by our
own State Department appears to have failed miserably. Due
to half-measures, miscalculations, timidity, machinations
or incompetence of the State Departments of the United States,
England and France, we are being isolated and we find ourselves rapidly moving toward a war which can be won by us

under present circumstances only after a costly and bitter
effort and only with a terribly dangerous aftermath. Granted
the necessity for being optimistic about the outcome of a war
in which before many years we alone may be fighting a victorious Germany (with Japan and Italy as her allies, and with

the whole of Europe turning out equipment for them), it would

be fatal to let such optimism obscure the difficulty of the
task confronting us and prevent us from taking drastic steps
to strengthen our position while there yet remains time.

It is becoming increasingly evident that diplomatic preparedness is as important an instrument of defence as is
military preparedness. Military activity may win battles,
diplomatic activity can make the fighting of these battles
unnecessary; military victories can gain raw material and
equipment and can weaken the enemy, diplomatic victories can
do the same. Without major diplomatic victories Germany

could not have attained her spectacular success. Had they
not suffered major diplomatic defeats neither England nor
France would be in their present predicaments.

But to be effective, diplomacy, like an army, must use
modern equipment and employ modern strategy. An "all out"

effort involves in diplomacy as in military strategy the

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fullest use of every economic and political advantage. In
the field of diplomacy many opportunities for successful
strategy are open to a country like the United States. A
rich country can do things a poor one cannot; a democratic
country, having no expansionist ambitions, has advantages

a totalitarian country bent on agression has not; a government that has never broken its international pledges has
advantages that governments which have repeatedly done 80

cannot claim. These advantages must be utilized to the

fullest in modern diplomatic activity if it is to have any
chance of success, just as our military forces in preparation
for defence or in actual warfare must make intelligent use
of our geographical position, our rich resources, our vast
labor power, technical equipment and democratic traditions.
In the light of requirements and possibilities of modern
diplomacy, the efforts of American foreign diplomatic manouver-

ing during this grave crisis in the world's history have been
pathetic. It has consisted of a 19th century pattern of petty
bargaining with its dependence upon subtle half promises,

irritating pin pricks, excursions into double dealing, and
copious pronounciamentos of good will alternating with vague

threats -- and all of it veiled in an atmosphere of high
secrecy designed or at least serving chiefly to hide the
essential barrenness of achievement. Our diplomatic maneuver-

ing is proving as futile in strengthening our international
position or in keeping us out of a difficult war as was the
equipment and strategy of the Polish Army in the task of
defending Poland.

Virtually surrounded by a world ablaze, and with the
fire growing hotter, and nearer and more dangerous, our

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diplomatic machinery concerns itself chiefly with maintaining a facade of important goings-on, an appearance of assured

and effective functioning, whereas behind that front is largely
hesitation, bewilderment, inaction, petty maneuvering,
sterile conversations, and diverse objectives.
Here and there, now and then progress is made but on a

scale that 18 completely inadequate to the task in hand. Where
modern diplomacy calls for swift and bold action, we engage
in long drawn out cautious negotiation; where we should talk

in terms of billions of dollars, we think in terms of millions;
where we should measure success by the generosity of the

government that can best afford it, we measure it by the sharpness of the bargain driven; where we should be dealing with
all-embracing economic, political and social problems, we
discuss minor trade objectives, or small national advantages;

instead of squarely facing realities, we persist in enjoying
costly prejudices; where we should speak openly and clearly,
we engage in protocol, in secret schemes and subtleties.
We must out loose from that outmoded and decayed pattern

of diplomacy. We must substitute, before it is too late,
imagination for tradition; generosity for shrewdness; understanding for bargaining; toughness for caution, and wisdom

for prejudice.
We are rich - we should use more of our wealth in the
interests of peace and victory. We are powerful - we should
be willing to use our power before our backs are to the wall.
We need no nation's lands - we should make full use of that
fact. We keep our national pledges - now is the time that
record of integrity should stand us in good stead. We are
protected by two oceans - let us exploit that protection

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-4while distance is still a potent barrier. We are a democracy let us take full advantage of the strength of open covenants
openly arrived at, where such covenants are in the interest
of people in every land.
The longer we wait the less chance will we have to use
diplomacy as an aid to our defence. The patterns of rela-

tionship jell; plans become irrevocable; opportunities lost
are gone forever. A nation committed irrevocably to a
course of action loses the power to exercise choice, to
accept offers and make conditions. If ever there was a time
when diplomacy could secure its most brilliant victories for
the United States, now is that time 1
The proposed program of diplomatic effort given below

will be called naive and visionary. It will be laughed at by
the professional diplomats, but their ridicule will not alter
our desperate situation, nor will their traditional method
of handling the situation lead to any better results than
have the efforts of their colleagues in England and France.
I am convinced the proposal is workable and could be

spectacularly successful.

I am equally convinced the particular proposal, or

anything resembling it will not be adopted nor, I fear, even
get a serious hearing unless pushed, in the beginning at
least, by high officials outside the State Department, yet
the stakes are 80 great I believe it 18 worthwhile making a
strenuous effort to get a new diplomatic offensive started.
The proposal consists of two parts. Part I deals with
our relations with Japan; Part II deals with our relations
with Russia.

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-5Each proposal is given below only in bare outline and

in only enough detail to indicate the essential point.
Obviously, 1f and when the proposal is given serious consideration each of the enumerated points must be elaborated

carefully, with appropriate conditions spelt out, loopholes
or evasion blocked, and adequate protective clauses added.

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-6II.
United States and Japan
A.

Whereas: War between the United States and Japan would

cost thousands of lives, billions of dollars;
would leave the vanquished country bitter and
desirous of revenge; would foster social disruption, and would not insure peace during
our children's lives, nor permanently solve
troublesome problems now standing between the

two countries, and
Whereas: The United States is eager to avoid war, and

is willing to go more than half way to settle
peaceably the issues that stand in the way of
more friendly intercourse between the two coun-

tries, and
Whereas: The United States recognizes that Japan, be-

cause of the special nature of its economy,

is greatly in need of opportunities for increased foreign trade, and in need of capital
to repair the ravages of four years of warfare, and

Whereas: The United States recognizes that injustice
has been done to the Japanese people by our
immigration laws, and

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Whereas: The United States believes that in the long
run the interests of both the Japanese people
and the American people can best be served by

establishing fair and peaceful conditions under
which Japan and her neighbors can prosper, and

Whereas: The United States is, because of numerous circumstances, powerful enough to destroy Japan

should the United States be forced against her

will to take up arms against Japan, and
Whereas: The United States is rich enough in funds, raw
material, equipment, and technical skill to

build, if necessary, a Navy and air force ten
times as strong as that which Japan can build,
and

Whereas: The United States wishes so much to avoid unnecessary bloodshed and destruction that it
will pay well to help Japan's economy back

to a peaceful and healthy basis, and
Whereas: The United States wishes to help China maintain her independence and attain peace so that

she may go forward in her political and economic development, 80 unfortunately interrupted
in 1937, and

-8Whereas: The United States believes there is no basic
obstaole to permanent and more friendly relations between the United States and Japan and
believes that the Japanese people will welcome

an opportunity to restore peace, to reconstruct
Japan's industry and trade, and to promote
friendly relations with her neighbors on a
basis fair both to Japan's needs and the needs
of her neighbors,

And finally -- and of most immediate
importance --

Whereas: The United States wishes to concentrate as

soon as possible her naval force in the Atlantic
80 as to be prepared for any emergency against
a potential enemy with whom there is no our-

rent basis for friendship.
The United States proposes to enter into an Agreement
with Japan at once under which the United States and Japan

will agree to do certain things, as follows:
B.

On her part, the United States Government proposes to

do the following:
1. To withdraw the bulk of the American Naval forces
from the Pacific.
2. To sign a 20-year non-aggression pact with Japan.
3. To recognize Manchuria as a part of the Japanese
Empire.

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4. To place Indo-China under the Government of a
joint British, French, Japanese and American Commission,

which will insure most-favored-nation treatment for those
four countries until the European War is ended, and which

will govern the country primarily in the interests of the
Indo-Chinese people.

5. To give up all extra-territorial rights in China,
and to obtain England's agreement to give up her extra-

territorial rights in China, and cede Hong Kong back to
China.

6. To present to Congress and push for enactment a

bill to repeal the Immigration Act of 1917 which prohibits
immigration into the United States of Japanese, and place
the Japanese and the Chinese on the same basis as other
peoples.

7. To negotiate a trade agreement with Japan, giving
her (a) most-favored-nation treatment and (b) such concessions
on imports as can be mutually satisfactorily arranged,
including an agreement to keep raw silk on the free list
for 20 years.

8. To extend a $3 billion 30-year credit at 2 per
cent interest, to be drawn upon at the rate not to exceed
$200 million a year except with approval of the President

of the United States. Half of the funds to be used to
purchase the products of the United States, and the remainder to be used to purchase commodities of Latin American
countries.

9. To set up a $500 million stabilization fund half
supplied by Japan and half by the United States, to be

used for the stabilization of the dollar-yen rate.

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4. To place Indo-China under the Government of a
joint British, French, Japanese and American Commission,

which will insure most-favored-nation treatment for those
four countries until the European War is ended, and which

will govern the country primarily in the interests of the
Indo-Chinese people.

5. To give up all extra-territorial rights in China,
and to obtain England's agreement to give up her extra-

territorial rights in China, and cede Hong Kong back to
China.

6. To present to Congress and push for enactment a

bill to repeal the Immigration Act of 1917 which prohibits
immigration into the United States of Japanese, and place
the Japanese and the Chinese on the same basis as other
peoples.

7. To negotiate a trade agreement with Japan, giving
her (a) most-favored-nation treatment and (b) such concessions
on imports as can be mutually satisfactorily arranged,
including an agreement to keep raw silk on the free list
for 20 years.

8. To extend a $3 billion 30-year credit at 2 per
cent interest, to be drawn upon at the rate not to exceed
$200 million a year except with approval of the President

of the United States. Half of the funds to be used to
purchase the products of the United States, and the remainder to be used to purchase commodities of Latin American
countries.

9. To set up a $500 million stabilization fund half
supplied by Japan and half by the United States, to be

used for the stabilization of the dollar-yen rate.

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On its part, the Japanese Government proposes to do

the following:

1. Withdraw all military, naval, air police forces
from China (boundaries as of 1931) from Indo-China and
from Thailand.

2. Withdraw all support -- military, political, or
economic -- from any government in China other than that
of the national government.

3. Replace with yen currency at a rate agreed upon
among the Treasuries of China, Japan, England and United

States all military scrip, yen and puppet notes circulating
in China.

4. Give up all extra-territorial rights in China.
5. Extend to China a billion yen loan at 2 per cent
to aid in reconstructing China (at rate of 100 million
yen a year).

6. Lease at once to the U. S. Government for 3 years
such naval vessels and airplanes as the United States
selects, up to 50 per cent of Japan's present naval and

air strength. Rental to be paid to be equal to 50 per cent
of the original cost price per year.
7. Sell to the United States up to half current
output of war material -- including naval, air, ordnance
and commercial ships on a cost-plus 20 per cent basis
as the United States may select.
8. Accord the United States and China most-favorednation treatment in the whole Japanese Empire.

9. Negotiate a 10-year non-aggression pact with
United States, China, British Empire, Dutch Indies (and
Philippines).

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Inasmuch as the United States cannot permit the
present uncertain status between the United States and
Japan to continue in view of world developments, and feels

that decisive action is called for now, the United States
extends the above offer of a fair and peaceful solution
of the difficulties between the two countries for only 30
days. If the Japanese Government does not indicate its
acceptance of the proffered agreement before the expira-

tion of that time, it can mean only that the present
Japanese Government prefers other and less peaceful ways

of solving those difficulties, and is possibly awaiting
the propitious moment to carry out further a plan of conquest.

In the event that Japan elected to reject the offer
of peaceful solution under terms herein indicated, the
United States would have to shape her own policy accordingly.

The first step in such policy would be a complete
embargo on imports from Japan.

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III.
United States and Russia
A.

Whereas: The United States is desirous of improving its
relations with Russia to the mutual benefit of
both countries, and
Whereas: There is no geographical area in which the economic interests of the United States and of

Russia are in conflict, and
Whereas: The United States is desirous of increasing its
trade with Russia and believes that Russia 18

likewise desirous of increasing its trade with
the United States, and
Whereas: Russia produces some essential raw materials
that the United States needs and the United
States produces goods that Russia needs, and

Whereas: The interests of the peoples of both countries
are served by a restoration of world peace as
rapidly as possible and the maintenance of that
peace as long as possible, and

Whereas: The interests of both countries are especially
served by maintenance of peace in the areas bor-

dering the Pacific Ocean, and

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Whereas: Both countries can maintain powerful military
forces which can effectively supplement each

other in the interests of preserving peace or
checking aggression -- the United States chiefly
in form of naval and air forces and Russia
chiefly army and air force, and
Whereas: Both countries have a great enough degree of
economic self-sufficiency so far as Europe or

Asia are concerned to carry out a program of
economic collaboration without any significant

lowering of the standard of living of either
country, and

Whereas: Both countries are eager to be able to devote

more of their productive effort to improving
the standard of living of the peoples and less
of their effort to armaments.
The United States proposes the following agreement
with the Government of the U.S.S.R.
B.

On its part the United States Government will do the
following:
1. Permit Russia to purchase up to $300 million a

year in the United States of any kind of raw or finished
material she may wish -- with certain exceptions noted in
the appendix.

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2. Permit Russia to maintain up to 5,000 technical
men in the United States as students or experts in our
industries.

3. Permit Russia to maintain 50 military and naval
attaches who shall be permitted to participate in our
military and naval maneuvers.

4. Extend to Russia a 10-year credit of $500 million
to be used at the rate of not more than $100 million a
year, except with the approval of the United States. The
credit to be applicable only to purchases for her own use
by Russia in the United States in any calendar year and
not to exceed $200 million.
5. Enter into a 5-year Mutual Economic Assistance
Pact under which the United States agrees to the following:

(a) In the event of war between Russia and any
major power, the United States will undertake to
sell to Russia and to deliver to Russian ports

military equipment or material out of current
stocks such goods as Russia may desire up to

$2 billion a year. The sale to be made on a costplus 10 per cent basis and 1/4 for cash and the
remainder for a 20-year credit at 2 per cent
interest.
(b) To place an embargo on any imports whose

origin is a country with which Russia is in a
state of war and to impose an embargo against

any exports, the destination of which involves
a country with which Russia is in a state of war.

(c) To at once undertake to prohibit all exports

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to or from Germany or all countries which have
been conquered by Germany.

6. Extend to Russia most-favored-nation treatment

with respect to trade.
C.

The Russian Government on its part agrees to do the
following:

1. Impose an effective embargo at once on all exports of any commodities to Germany or to countries conquered by Germany and also impose an embargo on all imports from those areas.

2. To prohibit the passage through Russian territory
or waters of any goods, troops, or equipment under control
of Germany or her Allies.

3. To sell to the United States up to $200 million
of any commodities produced in Russia -- with conditions
noted in appendix.

4. To effectively prohibit the export, directly or
indirectly to the United States, of all propaganda whether

in the form of material, literature, radio or economic
support.

5. To settle the outstanding debts of the Russian
Government to Americans under terms similar to those offered
in 1933.

6. To conclude a non-aggression pact with the
National Government of China.

7. To permit up to 5,000 American professional or
technical men a year to freely inspect, or study, in Russian

institutions and industries.

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observers to participate in the military maneuvers of
the Russian forces.
IV.

The advantages of terms indicated above to the three

countries are so great, and the disadvantages 80 small,

that it is difficult to believe either the Japanese or
Russian Government would hesitate to accept the offers.
The advantages accruing to each government are listed
below:

A. To the United States
1. Our naval power will be greatly increased at
once -- both by the freeing of our Pacific fleet for duty
elsewhere, and by the addition of Japanese ships leased to
us.

2. We would be able to send more of our equipment

to England without increasing our vulnerability to an
attack from the East.
3. We will have stopped the war in China and have
regained for her her freedom.

4. We will have paved the way for a substantial
increase in trade of non-war materials.
5. We would greatly strengthen England's position
vis-a-vis Germany.

6. We will have saved ourselves from a war with

Japan with all its terrible social, political and economic
consequences.

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7. The money it would cost us would be a very small

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part of what we would save by not having to fight Japan,
or by not having to be prepared for a two-ocean war.
8. A prosperous Japan and China can greatly help
to restore our normal trade, and thus make easier our own
transition to a peace time economy.
9. Insure for ourselves an adequate supply of manganese,

and other scarce strategic materials from Russia; tin, antimony and wood oil and rubber from the Far East.
10. Deter Germany from undertaking acts of aggression
in the Western Hemisphere because of the terms of the
U.S.-Russian Economic Assistance Pact, and the danger

that such a pact might be converted into a Mutual Assistance
Pact.

11. Handicap Germany in its present military campaign
and at the same time give great moral encouragement to the

British people.
12. Reduce communist propaganda in the United States.

13. Our military forces could doubtless learn something
from close contact with Russian forces.

14. Finally, we will have demonstrated that there
are other ways of solving major international problems
than by war.

B. To Japan

1. Instead of being confronted with prospect of a
more serious war and certain defeat in the end, she can
have peace at once.

2. She can proceed at once to shift from a war economy
to peace economy and at the same time experience prosperity

rather than a serious depression.

3. She can withdraw from the China incident without

loss of "face".
4. She can strengthen her currency and reduce her
public debt.

5. Her foreign trade will greatly increase.
6. She can devote her energies and capital to reconstructing Japan, building up Manchuria, and developing

new trade possibilities at a time when other countries
are engaged in war or preparation for war.
7. She will at one stroke have solved some of her
thorniest problems in her international relations.

8. She will avoid the danger of social disruption
that is bound to take place in Japan after an expanded

or prolonged war effort.
C. To Russia

1. Give her assurance that the United States will
not participate in war against Russia or encourage any
other power to war against Russia.
2. Weaken Germany and make victory by Germany much

more difficult.
3. Assure Russia a supply of machine tools and other
materials she must have.

4. Greatly strengthen Russia in the event of a
war against Germany.

5. Enable Russia to import more goods.
6. Convert the relationship between United States

and Russia from one of thinly-disguised suspicion, dis-

trust and hostility, to one of friendly promise.
7. Insure peace in the Far East for some time to
come.

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learn much from us.

V.

It would, of course, be necessary to obtain
Congressional approval before making such offers. with

proper preparation through preliminary confidential conferences with leaders of both parties and with appropriate
committees, the ground could be prepared 80 that the act

could be passed in a short time.
A completed document could then be offered to the
Japanese Government. The world, including the Japanese

people, would know the motives and the contents of our
offer. If the Japanese Government would not accept, it

would have at least the advantages of (1) clarifying our
own policy and rallying support behind the President,
(2) create serious division in Japan.
Whether the Russian Government accepted or refused we

would know better just where she stood, and England and

the United States could adjust their foreign policy
accordingly.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE June 6. 1941

Secretary Morgenthan

TO

Mr. Cochran

FROM

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£30,000
Purchased from commercial concerns £ 8,000
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York sold £10,000 to the American Express
Company.

Open market sterling remained at 4.03-1/4. and there were no reported trans-

actions.

The Canadian dollar eased further to close at a discount of 11-3/4%, as
compared with 11-1/8% last night.
The Argentine free peso again moved off to a final quotation of .2368, as
against .2373 yesterday.
Continuing its improvement, the Cuban peso moved from yesterday's quotation
of 1-5/8% discount to a new three-year high of 5/8% today. The current strength
in that currency is attributed to improved conditions in the sugar and molasses
export market. It has also been reported that Havana banking circles expect that
Cuba will receive a large loan from the Export-Import Bank.

In New York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below were

as follows:

Swiss franc

.2321-1/2

Swedish krona
Reichamark
Lira

.2385
.4005

.0526-1/4

Mexican peso

.0505
.2070

Brazilian milreis (free)

In Shanghai, the yuan in terms of our currency was unchanged at 5-3/84.
Sterling was again quoted at 3.89-1/2.
We purchased $350,000 in gold from the earmarked account of the Central Bank
of Chile.
No new gold engagements were reported to us today.

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-2A price of 23-3/88 was again fixed in London for both spot and forward silver,
equivalent to 42.44d.

The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was unchanged at 35 Handy
and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 34-3/44.
We made two purchases of silver amounting to 150,000 ounces under the Silver

Purchase Act, representing new production bought for forward delivery. of this
amount, 100,000 ounces came from Pera, and 50,000 ounces from various foreign
countries.

MM.

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MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION

TENTATIVE LESSONS BULLETIN

WAR DEPARTMENT

No. 116
G-2/2657-235

Washington, June 6, 1941

NOTICE

The information contained in this series of bulletins
will be restricted to items from official sources which are
reasonably confirmed. The lessons necessarily are tentative
and in no sense mature studies.
This document is being given an approved distribution,

and no additional copies are available in the Military Intelligence Division. For provisions governing its reproduction,
see Letter TAG 350.05 (9-19-40) M-B-M.

GERMAN

TRAFFIC AND MARCH DISCIPLINE

SOURCE

Marching and march discipline have been previously dealt
with in TENTATIVE LESSONS BULLETINS No. 56 and No. 110. These ad-

ditional notes are based upon a translation which appeared in the
Militar Wochenblatt, authoritative German military publication, on
February 21, 1941.

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TRAFFIC AND MARCH DISCIPLINE

Although a great deal of the activity of troops consists of
marching, it is not feasible to establish many uniform and invariable
rules because marching is done under so many different conditions.

This fact is taken into consideration by our field service regulations,

which state that when march orders are issued, one question is of decisive importance: Is ground contact with the enemy to be expected or
not? If so, tactical demands regarding organization, succession, and
halts in marching receive first consideration, and desire to spare

troops is subjected to these. If there are no prospects for ground
contact with the enemy, regulations prescribe that first consideration

be shown troops, which march in small formations, preferably separated

according to arms. These general principles also hold good for cre-

ation and protection of billets.

March discipline and traffic discipline have much in common.

Although they overlap each other in part, traffic discipline, which is
applicable to numerous vehicles of all descriptions, as well as to

troops, goes beyond march discipline in many ways. Mechanization and
motorization of considerable parts of the army have increased the importance of street and road nets, not only for combat troops, but for
rearward services. The demand for supplies of all kinds - ammunition,
food, fuel, and many other things - has increased considerably, and

traffic discipline is necessary if the demand is to be met.

No troop or vehicle should use the road longer than necessary

for moving forward - that is to say, in cases of lining up, halting,
moving into billets, or breaking down, the first task is to have the
road completely cleared at once. Let us look at a number of cases in
detail; these instructions may seem easier to carry out than they actually are.
Even the formation of a marching column sometimes involves con-

siderable difficulty. In no case should the column be formed on the
main road. Side roads, by-ways, and sometimes even the terrain along

main roads can be utilized. In order to assure lining up of units in
time, the simplest system is to send leaders ahead and have them main-

tain connection with their troops by signals or motorcyclists.

Lighter vehicles, as well as troops marching on foot, may almost
always be taken off the road with some dexterity. If heavy cars have
to stop on the road itself, however, especially broad spots should be
selected for halts, and operators should drive as sharply as possible
to the right. Roads have frequently become blocked when columns of some
length stopped suddenly and vehicles in the rear were unable to turn to

the right along the roadside. It is advisable, therefore, to use
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signals or commands well in advance for advising vehicles in the rear
of intention to halt. For such purposes there are mounted sergeants
for horse units and motorcycle orderlies for motorized troops.
A troop which has to stop on the road must stop for only a
short time, and it must move at once to the extreme right side of the
road. Arms are to be stacked by the side of the road as the troop

leaves and rests at one side only - preferably to the right. Space
is gained if single vehicles close up so that the left side of the
road is totally clear, and field kitchens and other vehicles are not

permitted to block the left by driving ahead. Care should be exercised
in the selection of convenient sopts for such vehicles close to the
border of the road.

It may happen that a single vehicle will foolishly halt on
the left and stop traffic from the opposite direction. In such a case,
officers and men should not stand around without taking action, for
it is the duty of men of every rank to take the initiative in maintaining order. When this goal has been attained, blocking of roads

may be nipped in the bud and not allowed to grow to greater or more
dangerous proportions.

Timely and careful reconnaissance of rest places is of great
importance for traffic discipline, and each unit must understand that
the road serves many units besides itself. Since individual circumstances dictate what formation will be ordered for resting, general
directions cannot be given in advance.
Only the question of water supply is of decisive importance,
but it concerns all arms of the service except motorized units; an
infantry regiment with about 650 horses is no less dependent upon water

supply than artillery is. In sparsely settled districts it will be

advisable - tactical circumstances permitting - to organize rests for
the same location, with successive troop units rotating. To regulate
the rest according to time alone will be of little advantage, for

it may happen that units having the largest number of horses stop at
places where is no water. The question of providing good watering

facilities, therefore, must be carefully considered by officers with

experience in this matter, for abundant watering is necessary for
keeping horses in good health and condition.
The smooth movement of troops from main march roads into

villages on or near these roads must be given consideration, and arrangements must be made in advance. The troop must never stop and

wait on the main road itself. If it takes time, as it often will, to
pre pare and announce billets, the troop must take to a by-road, a

farm, a vacant spot or, if it comes to the worst, the field, in order
to keep the main road clear for other traffic.
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Difficulty is caused when one column overtakes another, and

clogging of the road may result. At times it is necessary for one

column to pass another, but if two columns are headed in the same
direction, whether they are marching or stopped, a third column should

not be permitted to shove ahead or alongside. Such action leads to
hopeless clogging. In all cases where general circumstances permit,
it is advisable for the leader of the overtaking detachment to come
to an understanding with the leader of the detachment he intends to
overtake. The objection that valuable time would be lost is not tenable, for a clogged road would cause greater loss.
Congestions on the march cannot be entirely avoided, and time

and again single units drift out of the column in order to pass ahead
of troops at rest. Such procedure is both wrong and inadmissible. It
almost necessarily leads to congestion, especially when a narrow pass,
a road blockade, a shell crater, or a small bridge is reached. If a
unit on the left side of the road approaches such a bottleneck, it
cannot move ahead and it constitutes a disturbance and a nuisance.

Neither does it reach its goal sooner than if it had remained in line.
Apart from the fact that such action is prohibited by orders, judgment
and consideration ought to lead to its elimination.
Drivers of single motor vehicles sometimes behave with partic-

ular lack of consideration. It is a matter of course that motor

vehicles should overtake foot troops at a moderate rate of speed, and

this necessity should frequently be called to the attention of all

drivers.

Both horse-drawn and motor vehicles which are temporarily out
of commission should be removed from the road. With use of good judg-

ment, it will usually be possible to turn the vehicle into a side road even a poor field road, if necessary - although the vehicle may have to
be pushed by personnel. Repairs can thus be effected where other traffic

is not interfered with. Calling the attention of all participants to

this extremely important problem is essential for improving and keeping
up good traffic discipline. Success frequently depends upon keeping the

roads in good shape in all areas so that not only the troop itself, but
also the supplies of all kinds may arrive on time and in good condition.
Training in march discipline is important in peacetime as well as
in wartime, for bad peacetime habits exert a very positive influence
upon wartime actions.

Every superior has not only the right, but also the clear duty to

intervene where he is needed and to use his personality to prevent the
clogging of roads or to bring about the necessary disentanglement. In
such cases there can be no disputes about competency; he who is present
is competent and responsible.
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Perephunes of Code Cablegram
Reserved at the Your Department

as 09:56, June 6, 1941.

Lenium, filed 15:53, June 6, 1942.

1. - the Continue
& Please from the Denber Comment
operated against debend and Sentiment Manuary. Homite - abserved.
b.

Right of Juna les. The Royal Air Force did not

leave England during this night.

2. German Air Activity over Britain
A.

Night of June 5-6. German planes operated over

Seatland from Wisk to Amible and over the east coast of Britain.
Objectives were sonstal targets and shipping.
b.

Right of IS is now known that the

previously reported Geshan operations on this night involved ninety-

five long range bembers, twenty mine layers, and fifteen fighters.

3. Princh Air Activity. Other Theaters.

a. Theater. British planos bombed Bengani,
Nogition, and Darks on the night of June 3-4 A large - of

- remited.
LEE

Distribution

Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Under Secretary of War

Chief of staff
Assistant Chief of staff, 0-2

- Pime Division

office of Naval Intelligence
Air Course
Assistant Chief of Staff, G-3.
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