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DIARY

Book 380

March 8 - 11,1941

-ABook

Page

380

481

Agriculture, Department of
"Parity price loan" (8.935): Bankhead's plan and

American Farm Bureau Federation comment thereon -

3/11/41

Allison Engineering Company
See War Conditions: Airplanes (Engines)
Appointments and Resignations

Collector of Internal Revenue - Toledo, Ohio:
Congressman Hunter's correspondence - 3/10/41

173

-BBankhead, John (Senator, Louisiana)
See Agriculture, Department of
Budget

FDR's message to Congress: Copy of Cox draft as
presented to Hopkins - 3/9/41
Business Conditions
Haas memorandum on situation for week ending
March 8, 1941

120

315

-Chen, K. P.
See War Conditions: China
China

See War Conditions

Collector of Internal Revenue - Toledo, Ohio
See Appointments and Resignations

-FFarm Parity

See Agriculture, Department of

Financing, Government

Rentschler tells HMJr of resolution passed by
clearing house banks of New York "offering
without charge all possible services in
connection with various Government issues" 3/8/41

57

6/15/41 financing: HMJr advocates raising $5-600
million cash, at the same time as refunding
of $500 million June notes - 3/11/41

348

-H-

Halifax, Lord
See War Conditions: Purchasing Mission

Harriman, W. Averill

Bon voyage from HMJr - 3/10/41

Harrison, Pat (Senator, Mississippi)
Thanks HMJr for note on anniversary of thirty
years legislative service - 3/11/41

Hungary

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control

269

480

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Book

Intelligence Service, Treasury
One badge with Narcotics, Secret Service, or
Internal Revenue thereon discussed at 9:30 meeting 3/10/41

380

Page

160

Internal Rewenue, Collector of - Toledo, Ohio
See Appointments and Resignations

-KKreiselman, Joseph (Doctor)
See War Conditions: Airplanes

-LLaw Enforcement Agencies, Treasury

One badge with Narcotics, Secret Service, or
Internal Revenue thereon discussed at 9:30 meeting 3/10/41

160

-MMartha, Crown Princess
See War Conditions: Norway

-NNorway

See War Conditions

-RRevenue Revision

New program discussed by HMJr, Gaston, Foley, Bell,

Sullivan, Blough, and Tarleau - 3/11/41
-S-

Secret Service

For protection of Wallace (Henry A.) see Book 380,
page 151, and Book 381, page 79
Security Markets (High-Grade)
See War Conditions

Shipping

See War Conditions

Silver

See War Conditions

-TTaxation
See Revenue Revision

398,411

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Page

380

308

Unemployment Relief

Work Projects Administration report for week
ending February 26, 1941 - 3/10/41

U.S.S.R.

See War Conditions
United Kingdom

See War Conditions: Military Planning
-

Wallace, Henry A. (Secretary of Agriculture)
Secret Service protection discussed at 9:30
meeting - 3/10/41
a) Wallace-HMJr conversation - 3/12/41:

151

See Book 381, page 79
b) Gaston memorandum - 3/13/41:
Book 381, page 245
War Conditions
Airplanes:
Engines:

Allison Engineering Company: Shipments 3/10/41

312,313

Oxygen device for flying up to 37,000 feet
China:

(Dr. Joseph Kreiselman) discussed by Towers
and HMJr - 3/8/41

50

Stabilization Committee appoints Chen as chairman:

Chen's letter to HMJr - 3/8/41
Kung's letter delivered to HMJr by Currie -

3/12/41: See Book 381, page 128
Exchange market resume' - 3/8/41, etc.
Export Control:

107

108,307,489

Exports of petroleum products, scrap iron, and
scrap steel from United States to Japan, Russia,
Spain, and Great Britain, week ending

February 8, 1941
Foreign Funds Control:

314

Hungary:

Transactions with First National Bank of Boston,
Bank for International Settlements, and Guaranty
Trust Company - 3/10/41
Lend-Lease Legislation:
See also War Conditions: Purchasing Mission

304,305,306

Senate passes bill, 60-31 - 3/8/41

106

Budget as discussed by FDR and HMJr reviewed by
Treasury group - 3/10/41
a) Smith-HMJr conversation - 3/11/41

237

440

Minimum legal steps required to be taken in disposing
of defense articles under H.R. 1776:

a) First draft - 3/10/41

b) Second and final draft - 3/10/41

247
254

455,459
H.R. 1776: Act as signed by FDR - 3/11/41
a) FDR's message to Congress and Budget: Book 381. page 2
461,464
b. HMJr thanks George and Barkley - 3/11/41

c) Hopkins' letter to Purvis - 3/11/41

467

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Book

Page

380

331

War Conditions (Continued)

Military Planning:
Report from London transmitted by Halifax 3/10/41

Norway:

Secret Service protection of Crown Princess
Martha discussed at 9:30 meeting - 3/10/41.

152

Purchasing Mission:
See also War Conditions: Lend-Lease Legislation

"HMJr personally and solely responsible for the

fact that the British continued fighting

between Dunkirk and first of year": Dean

Acheson states this at staff meeting in Hull's
office - 3/8/41
British Financial Position:

2

Cash position estimated on certain assumptions

for near future by Phillips and discussed

by HMJr, Foley, Bernstein, White, Cochran,

and Bell - 3/8/41

Peacock definitely holding back: Frank tells

2,49,349,
397,447

HMJr that Bunker, of Lehman Brothers, who

is "195% pro-British" has just reported
this - 3/8/41
a) HMJr displeased with Halifax's reaction
when they discuss situation - 3/10/41

39

267

New York Investment Association and Securities
and Exchange Commission to consider

possibility of private organization to

take over en bloc British and/or Canadian
holdings of marketable securities and also
to consider direct investments: Cochran

tells Gifford and asks opinion - 3/8/41

a) Conference discussed by HMJr, White,
and Cochran - 3/11/41

Memorandum highlighting British financial
situation prepared by White - 3/8/41
Summary of contracts of $1 million or over,
as of February 15, 1941
Former French contracts of $1 million or over,
as of February 15, 1941

British contracts of $1 million or over,
as of February 15, 1941

Former French contracts where total of
unrecovered British advances and balance of
payments due is in excess of $10 million,
as of February 15, 1941
British contracts where total of unrecovered
advances and balance of payments due is in
excess of $10 million, as of February 15, 1941

48

445
60

133

134,135,136

137,138,139,
140,141,142

143

144,145

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Book

Page

380

229,270

War Conditions (Continued)
Purchasing Mission (Continued):

British Financial Position (Continued):

Resume of HMJr's assistance to Great Britain
and various sources of funds: Cochran
memorandum - 3/10/41

a) Discussed by Treasury group,
FDR suggests speed in Reconstruction Finance

199

Corporation taking over British payments
made for plants and War Department taking
over materiel payments made by British 3/10/41
a) HMJr's memoranda to Jones and

Stimson - 3/11/41

234

345,346

Vesting order sales - 3/11/41

488

Current Developments: Haas memorandum - 3/11/41.

491

Security Markets (High-Grade):
Shipping:

Port clearance of British trade vessels: Herbert
Hoover's letter to Stimson discussed by HMJr,
Gaston, and Waesche - 3/10/41
a) For Coast Guard and Maritime Commission
reports, see Book 381, page 8

146

b) Captain Callaghan reports - 3/18/41:
Book 383, page 117

Silver:

New formula for estimating production in United
States - 3/10/41

274

U.S.S.R.:

Oumansky's "chagrin" discussed by Loy Henderson

(Assistant Chief, European Division, State

Department) and Wiley - 3/8/41
Work Projects Administration
See Unemployment Relief

1

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
STRICTLY PERSONAL

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Wiley

DATE March 8, 1941

Last evening Loy Henderson came to see me. He is Assistant
Chief of the European Division of the Department of State and the
Department's expert on the Soviet Union -- a very competent one too.

I gathered from him -- very discreetly - that Oumansky's chagria
derives chiefly from the fact that some six or seven million dollars worth of oil drilling machinery has been held up. It appears

that the War and Navy Departments are responsible; not the State
Department, which for some time has been adopting a policy of considerable amiability towards the Soviet Embassy. The idea, I sup-

pose, is not to assist in the further development of Soviet oil
production at a time when the Soviet Union is exporting oil to the
Reich.

Oumansky may also be very irritated that a charter of a ship
has just been revoked by the Maritime Commission. Oumansky will
probably blame Henderson. As a matter of fact the action was taken
on the sole initiative of the Maritime Commission.
Should you be interested, and should you see General Maxwell,
he could probably give you the "low down" on Soviet complaints.
Also, you would find Loy Henderson most interesting should you ever

have occasion to talk to him. He is an extremely decent and trustworthy person with an enormous background on the Soviet Union. His

point of view is professional rather than prejudiced.

Few

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March 8, 1941
9:30 a.m.

RE BRITISH PURCHASING PROGRAM

Present:

Mr. Foley
Mr. Bernstein
Mr. White
Mr. Cochran

Mr. Bell

H.M.Jr:

Dean said at a staff meeting in Mr. Hull's
office that he didn't see how anybody could say

that Morgenthau didn't have anything to do
with foreign affairs when he personally was

entirely responsible for the fact that as
between Dunkirk and the first of the year
that the English kept on fighting. He says,

"How can you say that Morgenthau has nothing

to do with it? He has single-handedly kept

things going." He said he said it at a staff

meeting in Mr. Hull's presence. He said Morgenthau was solely responsible for the thing
having continued. That is a pretty nice thing
to say.

Bell:

Very nice to say among enemies.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that is what he told them for, so we will
give him a chance.

Now, Mr. Bell, if somebody could start in and
bring me up to date on - this is what happened.
Sir Frederick Phillips comes in here and says
to me, "What are you going to do about our

financial situation," and I said I didn't under-

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-2stand it and so forth and so on and asked him
to give me a written memorandum, which I have

not yet seen, and also that the Canadian thing,
to sum up, the Canadians want to get in on the
Lend-Lease, and they have asked me what they

should do about their 350 million dollars worth
of American securities and they have asked this the English have asked, should they or should

they not sell their gold to Canada, or should
they sell it to us. I don't know how many
other problems there are, but that is about all.
Bell:

That is enough.

H.M.Jr:

This is handed by Pinsent to Cochran in the

Treasury and marked 7, noon. Yes. (See attachment 1)

"In response to the invitation of the Secretary

of the Treasury, an attempt has been made below

to estimate the British cash position in the near
future on certain assumptions.

I. Assumptions and their possible errors.
1. It is assumed that the new system to be
set up after the passage of the LendLease Bill will start coming into effective operation by 1st April, 1941."
And to digress a minute, there is a memo for

Bell and Foley on that that you will get this
morning. What, if anything, have we done in

our shop on how this thing should operate from
a financial standpoint. Has anybody worked on
that?

Bell:

Well, I take it that you have been working with
McCloy on the things, haven't you?

H.M.Jr:

I mean has any work been done in the Treasury,

if you want to let them have a thousand planes.

Foley:

You mean from an organizational standpoint or

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-3from the standpoint of how the thing would
operate and how you could do it?
H.M.Jr:

How it would operate and how the swaps and

contracts and all that would be made. Has

anybody worked on that?
Foley:

Yes, Oscar has een working on it.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you will get a memo. We will take it up
Monday. I don't think the President or Hopkins
has done anything about it, and I think that
that could very well be my end of the four-man
Board.

White:

It should be.

Bell:

Are Oscar and McCloy working on that together?

Foley:

Well, McCloy has been concentrating more on

Bell:

The over-all agreement?

Foley:

Yes, kind of an open-end mortgage, and he has

H.M.Jr:

What did you say?

Foley:

I didn't say anything. I say Oscar has been
working on that and has had that in mind for

the bill, but Oscar has done several things in
the way of memos on this very thing. He has
got a draft of an open-end agreement to cover --

got in mind what could be done first.

two or three weeks.

White:

One of the important aspects of that would be

in relation to this to see the kind of goods
that the British will want, food stuffs and
other materials which cannot fall under the

Lend-Lease Bill, because that is important before a decision is made, how much they will need

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-4for current purchases.
H.M.Jr:

"As regards the goods to be included under the

Bill, the assumption made is that the whole of
the supplies referred to in the statement of
requirements already filed with the U.S. Treasury
will be covered. We do not yet know how far that
assumption is correct.
3. It is an extreme assumption that the system
can be brought into perfect and complete opera-

tion from the 1st April. Delays are inevitable
particularly in such matters as regulating the

procurement of foodstuffs and miscellaneous
goods. In many cases goods which could be

bought under the Bill if purchased by the U.K.

Government from the U.S. Government are at

present the subject of contracts between suppliers

in the U.S. and traders in the U.K. and existing
contracts will have to be worked off. Probably

some residue of orders, such as small rush orders
for goods over the counter to meet some special
emergency, will never get effectively covered.
We shall have to continue buying for cash to
whatever extent is necessary. No allowance has
been or can well be made for these factors at

present and the figures of deficits given below
are therefore minimum figures which will be exceeded to an unknown extent in practice.

4. It is assumed that we continue to meet our
existing commitments as they are estimated to

stand on April 1st.

5. It is assumed that newly-mined African gold

can go on being made available either by shipment

or by switching. But our ability to ship is in

fact very limited, and the amount we have available to switch is probably less than the new
production of March, April and May.

6. We think we should be enabled to accumulate

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-5within a reasonable time a cash working balance

of $250 millions. Of this we propose that say
$100 millions in gold should be reserved out of

our new gold production and accumulated over the

next year to meet any calls from the Balkans and
Near East, and $150 millions made available in
U.S. dollars as soon as possible.

7. Our liabilities in gold to third countries
amount to about $100 millions a year (apart from
liabilities in dollars of about $130 millions a

year). After allowing for this and the accumulation of a small gold reserve as above, there
should be on the production figures an amount of
free gold remaining equal to $360 millions a year
or $30 millions a month.

8. It is very difficult to make any safe assumption as to the rate of sale of our capital assets.

We feel it unsafe to rely on more than $300
millions in the period March-August.

9. It is assumed that the exports of the whole
sterling area are maintained at their present
level but this may be optimistic in the case of
United Kingdom exports in view of war conditions.

10. It is assumed that at least the great part of
our current obligations to Canada (roughly $1200

millions a year) will be met by the repatriation
of debt owed by Canada to the United Kingdom or
by Canada buying and holding sterling.

At this point __"

I take it you have all got copies of this.
"At this point, two alternative assumptions are

made according as we pay something or nothing in
gold to Canada:

Either (1)

The available newly-mined gold, at

a rate of $360 millions a year or

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-6$30 millions a month, is paid to

Canada and used by her to reduce the

deficit in her balance with the

U.S.;
or

(2)

The available newly-mined gold is
applied towards covering our obli-

gations in the U.S., instead of in
Canada (this would, of course,
accelerate the realization of Canada's

U.S. assets, and no doubt advance the
date at which Canada might have to

ask for the benefit of the LendLease Bill)."

White:

These figures are substantially higher in many
more effects than those they gave us a few months
ago of the expenditures required.

H.M.Jr:

Let me get this first. What is the asterisk after

Bell:

The figures are too low, "as the wide and immediate application of the Lend-Lease system which

that thing?

has been assumed could hardly be reached in

practice." That is a footnote, sir.

H.M.Jr:

You mean they figured from 650 to - oh, no.

White:

No, they are high. Their figures of their outpayments. I can just cite one illustration.
They say, for example, that they will need a

hundred million dollars in gold for liabilities
to third countries. Now, on our January 1st
statement which they gave us, that figure was
exclusive of Canada, one-fourth of that - was
21 million. British Empire payments excluding
Canada and Newfoundland outside of the U.S.,

21 million. For the year as a whole, it was
240 million whereas now they have upped that

12 hundred million. If they include Canada,
they have doubled it, but they use that figure

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7-

in such a way that when they get to the Can-

adian ones, it is not clear that it includes
Canada, but I will take that up when I get to
Canada. That is one of the figures that they

have upped. Are you interested?
H.M.Jr:

What? Well, I just - I don't want to get

too many details. "To cover our shortage up
to August 1941 and to provide a cash balance
on the lines proposed in assumption 6 __"

Where is assumption 6?

Bell:

On the first page.

White:

On the first page.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

White:

Bottom of the first page.

H.M.Jr:

I see. Well, can somebody sum this up for me?

There is an awful lot of stuff. I mean Harry, can you sum this up?

White:

I can sum the problem up. I can't sum their
figures up, because I just got it about 20
minutes ago.

H.M.Jr:

Why didn't you get it yesterday?

Cochran:

I started them around last night. We didn't get
out of the meeting on China until 5:00 o'clock.

H.M.Jr:

Well, why should I have to sit here when somebody hasn't got these things?

Cochran:

Well, they were around at 9:00 o'clock this
morning.

H.M.Jr:

I like people to be prepared for me. I don't

want them to do their home work in my presence.

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8White:

H.M.Jr:

I can sum the general proposition up.

I came down here just for this thing this morn-

Bell:

ing, and I thought that everybody would be
ready. I don't like to sit here and wait. It
arrived yesterday at 12:25.

But, Mr. Secretary, everybody, I think, thought

that you were going to have a conference on
Sunday and we did go into this Chinese agree-

H.M.Jr:

ment until right late last night.

When
this? did you get word that I was going to do
Bell:
White:

H.M.Jr:

Five minutes before I left last night.
I didn't get word until I got home.

Well, you can't - I did it today to save every-

body so you wouldn't have to work on Sunday.
Well, who can sum this up for me?
White:

Well, I can sum it up without having reference
to specific figures which we may or may not
agree with. The summation is that they are in
a position of being unable to pay the adverse

balance which they have with Canada, which they

now say will be over a billion dollars if they

meet the schedule of payments which they were
supposed to have met with us and Canada states -

stated to you, Mr. Clark stated, that they didn't

feel that they would be able to assist England

to the full extent. Phillips says they have a
certain amount. I think it is about 400 million
dollars of gold, which t hey can give to Canada,

but if they give that to Canada, they will not

be able to meet their commitments here and their
current expenditures. Therefore, there may have

to be found some way, I think, of taking - or

give them increased aid under the Lend-Lease

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-9Bill or possibly taking over some of the com-

Cochran:

mitments. They are not clear, or at least I
am not clear on that point.
"For the rest it should not be difficult to
select suitable contracts up to the amount

required." That is the main point of the

whole thing.
White:

They estimated it at what?

Cochran:

Well, they vary. It is 365 on one basis and
185 on the other. It is whether or not we take
the gold from Africa and so on or permit it to
go to Canada.

White:

Well, I say that is the problem. Therefore, if
they utilize all their gold to meet their com-

mitments here, which they feel they will need,
then Canada will have to come - will be unable to
meet her exchange commitments, dollar commit-

ments here, and it will be necessary sooner than

was expected, I think, by any of us, to help

Canada out, and the amount of help to Canada

will have to be larger, so that the question of
policy, it appears to me, is whether you want
to increase your assistance to England and no

assistance to Canada during the first year or

whether you want to have England pay more gold
and dollars here and render some assistance to
Canada.

H.M.Jr:

Now, do you (Cochran) differ any from Harry?

Cochran:

No, I think there are just these three points.
There is that one. I think you have the choice
of letting the gold go from South Africa to

Canada, or should we send a ship over there,
say in another two or three weeks, and bring
over about a hundred and twenty million dollars

and permit a switch so that they could take care
of their commitments here.

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- 10 White:

But that is a subsidiary detail, isn't it?

The main problem would still remain, whether
they are to pay Canada or us?

H.M.J.:

Well, I can give a horseback opinion on that.

Foley:

Pay us.

White:

Well, I prepared a memorandum giving the pro's
and con's on that point. (See Attachment 3.)

Foley:

I think as a political, public relations, problem, it is much better for them to be paying us

as much as they can and for Canada to be under
the Lease-Lend Bill.
(Mr. White passed prepared paper to conference

participants.)
Bell:

The net effect of it really doesn't make much
difference, but you told the people on the Hill
Canada would not need any help, and I take it
in those figures there was payment by Great
Britain to Canada which enabled her to get

by this year so that if you switch now, I think
you will have to explain it.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I made another statement, that England

was going to give us every bit of gold that she
could lay her hands on.

Cochran:

You mentioned South Africa particularly.

Bell:

And they asked about that, and you pointed out

H.M.Jr:

And as I remember, I said it was three or four

White:

It was about 400 million, the African and Aus-

on the statement it was in there.

hundred million, didn't I?
tralian gold.

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

And I said, "We are going to get everything."

White:

That is right.
And if I don't do it, then this fellow, a man
who is riding along like Flynn, would have --

H.M.Jr:
White:

That is just the point he is making much of.
He claims that the British Empire, using part

of its gold and dollar assets to meet its
debts to its Empire and it will be owing us

more.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it seems to me that that thing is fairly
simple, don't you think so, Dan?

Bell:

I think you have got to do that.

White:

I have listed the numerous arguments in favor of
having England pay us all and there are only a

few, that I could find, that are the other way
around.

H.M.Jr:

What are those?

White:

They are very minor, but they are the only ones

I could find. One is that, if we extend the

Lend-Lease arrangements to Canada now, we will
soon have other dominions up, and it may be

easier to deal with the United Kingdom alone than

with several units. I don't think that is important, but that is one item. A second one is,
taking a stand either way does mean that you are

getting involved in Empire relations, that if
you ask the British to pay all their gold here

that there may be people in England and Canada

who might feel that you are trying to get the
best of the deal.
H.M.Jr:

I think the thing to do is to prepare a letter

on this based on my testimony, to get my testi-

mony out, it was before the Senate Committee,

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wasn't it? And simply say, "Inasmuch as I
said so and so, the answer can only be that
we expect you to send us all of your free
gold, wherever it is mined."
Cochran:

And you have the other suggestion to carry on

with the Canadians, in which they asked us if
they should begin to liquidate their American
securities.
H.M.Jr:

That will come next. Supposing, after we break
up, Merle, you draft a memorandum for me on this
point 1, with the help of whoever you want, which

can be circulated before I get around to it
again. Point 1 being that we feel that, inas-

much as I expressed myself along those lines on
the Lend-Lease Bill, we expect them to send us

all of their gold. Wouldn't you do that, Dan?

Bell:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

That is Point No. 1, isn't it?

White:

Well, that presupposes that they were going to
pay 600 million to Canada, so that would have to

be explained. You said all they had left after
that.

H.M.Jr:

No, no. Wait a minute. They told us that they

were going to sell so much gold to Canada, and

they haven't done it. Well, that is none of our

business.

Bell:

Well, it was in the statement that you prepared.
There was a Canadian British payment, wasn't
there?

White:

That is right.

Bell:

How much money?

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- 13 White:

Six hundred twenty million. Eight hundred

eighty was what they owed them, and the
Canadians were going to take care of 260.

Bell:

And the rest gold?

White:

Six hundred twenty million of gold and dollar

commitments which the British were presumably
going to pay to Canada and would not have

available to pay us. I may say, I think, after
an examination of these figures, we will find
that they will be able to pay a good deal to
Canada as well as to us.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Harry, that is beside the point and
separate for the minute. The question is a
matter of public policy. The Secretary of the
Treasury of the United States - they are
offering me, do I want them to sell us the
gold or do they want us to sell it somewhere
else, and I think the answer is here, isn't it?
It is unanimous that they should sell it to us,

isn't it?

Bell:

I think that certainly to the extent that you
explained to the Committee, that they would sell
it to us.

H.M.Jr:

That is right.

Bell:

You have got to keep faith with your commit-

H.M.Jr:

That is right. I think the thing to do is to

tees.

look up the testimony. Bernstein, you can get

it for him, can't you?

Bernstein:

Yes, I can.

Cochran:

I can get it.

White:

Not only the testimony, but in the table we have

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a specific amount which they were going to

sell to us.

Cochran:

Four hundred eighty.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Cochran and Bernstein and White can
collaborate on this thing and have something

for me - I mean, there is no sweat. If I

have it Tuesday morning, so that nobody has to

work on Sunday.
White:

Five hundred fifty million dollars of gold,
Australian and South African gold, in addition
to what they currently have, was indicated by

the British as to be paid over to us.

H.M.Jr:

Well, anyway, I want something Tuesday morning.

Now, the next question - all right, Dan?
Bell:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Now, the next question is, is the question -

what other questions are the English asking us?
White:

The other questions --

Cochran:

Taking over the existing contracts in this
final thing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they haven't answered me. I asked them
how much is the R.F.C. doing. They were going

to give me a figure. I said "How much are the

R.F.C. going to do?"
Cochran:

They just said "provide part of the subsistence."

H.M.Jr:

I asked them.

Cochran:

Yes, sir.

Foley:

What does that mean, Mr. Secretary? I didn't
know the R.F.C. was doing anything.

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- 15 H.M.Jr:

Oh yes, the R.F.C., for instance, have put
up capital assistance for a powder plant and
they are buying it.

Foley:

Oh yes, I remember now.

H.M.Jr:

And there is a whole group of those. I don't
know if any of them have gone through, but
there was a whole group, you know.

Foley:

Yes, I remember it now. I had forgotten what

H.M.Jr:

As I understood, they were going to do all of

it was.

those things.

Foley:

There is no reason why that shouldn't be done.

White:

As I understand it, there may be some reason.
You have already stated that they have commitments on January 1st on contracts that have

already been made of a billion four - a billion
twenty-seven falling due this year, 119 million
due. That is what the statements said, and they
said they were going to meet those commitments.

Foley:

We are talking about something else, Harry,

plant investment in this country that the
British have put out that can be refinanced now

by the R.F.C.
Bernstein:

The R.F.C. is going to buy it back.

White:

The plants which are supposed to be owned by
them?

Foley:

By the British.

Cochran:

Well, there would have to be some contracts in
addition to make up the total.

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- 16 Foley:

Well, how would that work?

Bernstein:

Is it likely to be anything like a hundred and
eighty-five million?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I am giving you an appointment to continue

this at 10:15 on Tuesday. Well, look, don't
take up too much of my time, you see. Let me

tell you just the thing which is missing. I

asked them to say how much of the money was

the R.F.C. going to give them. How many more
contracts are there that could be bought, which
means capital assistance? So I think between
now and Tuesday we can get that figure. But

they don't give it to me. In other words,

how much are in the works? Didn't the Army do
some, too, over there? Didn't the Army buy
up some contracts? Wasn't that what they call
the McCloy Plan?
Cochran:

They figured the maximum would be 50 million

dollars, didn't they?
H.M.Jr:

But McCloy was buying some.

White:

A hundred and fifty million, wasn't it?

H.M.Jr:

Let's find out for Tuesday, what is - one, the

total amount of capital commitments plus down
payments that they have made. That is question
one. A, and under this, how much is the Army
going to take over; and B, how much is the R.F.C.;
and C, how much is left over that can be taken

over, and that is what they wanted to find out.
I would like to have that by Tuesday. Shall I
say it again?

Foley:

Bernstein has got it.

H.M.Jr:

Total amount for capital assistance down payments, how much is the Army taking over, and B,
the R.F.C., and C, how much does that leave that

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- 17 could be taken over. There is no use of

our guessing at it. I asked him that question.
Now, what is the next thing?
Cochran:

You have a second memorandum on there which

H.M.Jr:

Gold? Explain that, will you?
That is the balance sheet for the whole month
of March. Now, they count the official dollar
balances as of March 1 at 82. That has gone
up quite a bit since then because of shipping
down that 75 from Ottawa. Then the gold as of

Cochran:

shows the position of their gold and so on as
of March. (See attachment No. 2)

March 1 was a hundred and two million. They

say there is a total of a hundred and twentythree, but they deduct from that 21 made up of

10 in South Africa and 11 in London and

scattered localities, which they say is excluded because part is needed as a reserve

against agreement liabilities, and the balance
can probably not be shipped to North America

during March. Now, of that balance, I know

part of it is in Cyprus, part of it is in Paris,
and odd places where they couldn't get it out

at all. They switched shortly after March 1,

52 million down from Canada, and they have in

transit to North America six million, and in
South Africa they have another eight million.
In the newly-mined gold for the month, they

figure that at 40 million. That is the rate

they have been calculating for sometime, but
Pinsent told me yesterday that the gold produc-

tion in South Africa has fallen off in the last

month and is running only about 400 million a

year instead of 480, but they have left it at
40 there instead of the new estimate of 33.

White:

I don't know to what extent it is our affair,

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but gold production in Africa can very easily
be speeded up. They have been saving some of
the rich ores for sometime.
H.M.Jr:

Cochran:

Just let's pigeon hole that for the minute.

Let me just get this, Harry. I haven't got it
yet. That is 299 May I explain that one point? Sales of market
securities and direct investments. They have
been figuring market securities at 40 million,

you see, 10 a week, 40 a month, and they have
added on there 35 which they thought was a fair

guess at the average, immediately, of direct
investment sales, but that figure is a guess.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

White:

We have got some further information that we
got yesterday --

H.M.Jr:

Harry, please let me run through this thing, and
then you take it up.

White:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Go ahead, Merle.

Cochran:

That shows their cash and gold for the month of
March. Then below you have the debit. They
divide up the expenditure by the British Purchasing Missions for this month, and the two
items on contracts placed by March 1, 175, and
on contracts to be placed in March, under your
rationing system, 40.

H.M.Jr:

But, Merle, that 40 isn't out of pocket.

Bell:

Advance payments?

Cochran:

They say that they have some down payments to
make, not just commitments.

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- 19 H.M.Jr:

Oh, I see. Then the second balance is all the

other gold and dollar items. That is 24. They
still don't include in there their 16 million

payment to Canada - not 16, but 52, it should
be. That was the payment we calculated if they

paid 620 million dollars a year, but they are
leaving that out.

Bell:

They are continuing to enter into contracts.
Are those the things Phil Young brings to you?

H.M.Jr:

Every night.

Bell:

It is that big, is it?

H.M.Jr:

Well, it runs 35 million a week.

Bell:

Really?

Cochran:

And then they would have on hand at the end of

March, 60 million dollars. Now, those figures
don't take into account this new 100 million
dollars of gold that they are going to borrow
from Belgium.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Cochran:

And if I could make a suggestion there, I would

put it in that memo. I was talking to Pinsent
the other day. Now that they have that Belgian
gold or can get it in Canada, it might offer a

good opportunity to effect a switch whereby
we would get this gold which is in South Africa
now ear-marked for the French. I mean, rather
than leave it there where someone could eventually
say it has gone to France, if we could get a

ship to bring that over - it is now a hundred
and 20 million, you see, and sell it to us here,
we couldn't transport it from South Africa to
Canada or any other place, only to New York, and
let the British switch the hundred million of
Belgian to France in Canada, you see, to offset
the switch that has already been made in Africa

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- 20 so that would leave a hundred and twenty million
free to come over here. Then they could start
switching again in South Africa against the
whole amount of the French gold and do that
whole process over again.

H.M.Jr:

Wait a minute, I am only a simple-minded farm

boy. Let me just go through this thing. Let's
start - how much gold have they mentally ear-

marked in South Africa?
Cochran:

One hundred and twenty million.

H.M.Jr:

Your proposal is that they take that hundred and

twenty, sell it to us on board a battleship, and

that would give them a hundred and twenty million

dollars additional funds. Right?
Cochran:

H.M.Jr:
Cochran:

Well, they have to - they can only ear-mark
against 280 million dollars of French gold.
Why?

That is all the French gold they have. They could
ear-mark against the Belgian. They could start

doing that.
H.M.Jr:

But the hundred and twenty we take, that would be
fresh money for them here?

Cochran:

Yes, give them fresh money.

White:

But it wouldn't be additional.

H.M.Jr:

What?

White:

It wouldn't be additional.

Cochran:

No, it wouldn't be additional.

H.M.Jr:

Why wouldn't it be additional?

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- 21 White:

Because they are just going to switch that,
but his proposal makes it possible for later,
if they want to switch again, to do so, and
that might be additional.

H.M.Jr:

Well, then, through selling us they have got
to cancel or mentally ear-mark - they cancel that
by replacing the French gold - let's say, to
use round figures, to the extent of a hundred
and twenty million of Belgian gold. Then everything on the slate would be wiped clean, wouldn't
it?

Cochran:

Yes. It would mean that they have mentally
expended that amount of Belgian gold, but they
would get the hundred and twenty million proceeds here of the gold which they bring from
South Africa.

H.M.Jr:

The Belgians would be out a hundred and twenty,
and they would replenish the French with a
hundred and twenty.

Cochran:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

And how much of the French is up there?

Cochran:

Two hundred eighty, and 351 of the Belgian.

H.M.Jr:

So they could use the French all over again up
to an amount of 280?

Cochran:

That is right. You see, we have to figure --

White:

And they haven't touched the Dutch yet.

Cochran:

Well, there is no arrangement with them yet.

White:

Not yet?

H.M.Jr:

No. Well now, what is the argument to bring up

that 120 a year? Why is it better to have it here

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- 22 than in South Africa?
Cochran:

Well, we ordinarily don't hold the gold abroad,
and we could still carry out that promise that
we get the South African production.

White:

If you don't make the switch now, the gold may
be stuck in South Africa, and when they want
to switch it and give you the gold, they may be
in no position to move it, and you may not be

in a position to get it, whereas now ith a
battleship, I take it, you could get it, and

that means that there is that much more easily

available if they want to switch in the future.
H.M.Jr:

How much more?

Foley:

I am stupid. I didn't get all of the thinking

that was behind it, whether it was new money or
whether it wasn't.
H.M.Jr:

Let me give it to you.

Foley:

What is the arrangement with the French and the
Belgians?

H.M.Jr:

I don't blame you. What they have done is this.
They have got 280 million in gold with the Bank
of Canada, which is on deposit there, to the
credit of the Bank of France, you see. Well,
they got pressed for money, so they sold us a
hundred and twenty of that, and they said,
"Well, we didn't take it, 'and they set up on
their books, "Credit to the account of the Bank
of France a hundred and 20 of gold", but the
gold is no longer in Canada, it is down in
South Africa. Now, Belgium has some gold up

in Canada, and I told them to get it. So they

have made arrangements with Belgium that they

can borrow a hundred million of that gold and
they put a piece of paper - they have put on
their ledger, "We owe Belgium a hundred million

dollars.

24

- 23 Now, the suggestion that Merle is making,

in order that they can repeat this operation,

is that we buy the hundred and twenty in South

Africa, give them the credit, then they take

and say, "Well, we can't mentally ear-mark
it, so we pay back to the Bank of France a
hundred and twenty of gold, but we do it with
White:
H.M.Jr:

Bernstein:
White:

the Belgian gold. Instead of owing it to
France, we owe it to Belgium." Right?
That is right.

I don't blame you, because it makes -Why do they owe it to Belgium, Mr. Secretary,
because of what is happening in Africa?
No, Belgium has gold on ear-mark with England

in Canada. Now, England is going to borrow it.

It is a different operation from the French
gold. The French gold, they didn't borrow,

they merely got France's permission, presumably,

to ear-mark gold in South Africa instead of the

gold in Canada.
H.M.Jr:

No, they never told France.

White:

Well, I thought they were going to.

H.M.Jr:

Harry, they created a new term in international
banking, which - the shades of whatever is left
of BIS would roll over and die. A mental earmark, nothing appears.

Bell:

In the ground.

Cochran:

No, it is not in the ground, Dan.

H.M.Jr:

Nothing appears. It is just like this, Harry,

you give me a hundred dollars for safe keeping,

see, and I don't say a word to you. I just take

the hundred dollars cash, you see, and I just

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take it and spend it, but I say, "Well, it is

all right, I mentally ear-marked another
hundred in my bank up at Fishkill for Harry,
so he is all right. I have got a hundred
dollars up in the bank in Fishkill which is
mentally ear-marked for Harry." In the meantime, I spend your cash.

Cochran:

They have gone ahead, and they have mentally

ear-marked an additional 52 million not in
South Africa, you see. For awhile that is what
threw out our figures last week, but now they
are mentally ear-marking in Australia and Argentina.

White:

Under the assumption that the French can read
their minds.

Foley:

Well, how far can this process go? Can it go to
the point instead of having a mental ear-mark for
gold somewhere, they end up with a piece of

paper?

White:
Foley:

That is the next step.
I can see that.

White:

They have done that with Belgium, but with
Belgium's permission.

Cochran:

But with this 52 now ear-marked in various
places, that makes 172 they have done this with,
so that only leaves 108 clear up in Canada in
the French account, against which they can
mentally ear-mark further; so that makes it a

little urgent to start moving some of this from
South Africa.

White:

There is a difference between shifting the earmark and taking the next step. They have got

a better chance of getting their gold back if
it is ear-marked in South Africa than they have
got if it is ear-marked for future delivery, to

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be acquired in the future.
Bell:

Merle, have they got good facilities in Africa
for keeping the gold?

Cochran:

Yes.

Bell:

I mean outside of the mine, I mean vault facili-

Cochran:

We got the gold from a little port just outside

ties? It is well off in the mine, I appreciate.

of Capetown, you see. I don't know how the

facilities are, but the gold has been held in

Durban, Capetown, and Johannesburg.
Bell:

Why is it so essential to ship - why can't we
take over all the gold from Canada that is

earmarked up there for France and Belgium and

have Canada hold that gold in South Africa for
accounts of Belgium and France and Holland?

Cochran:

Canada hasn't entered into this agreement at all.

Bell:

Why not?

Cochran:

Well, they have some reservations on permitting
the mental earmark of gold which has been earmarked with them by the Bank of France. This
that they are working on now was earmarked by
the Bank of France with the Bank of England,
and the Bank of England moved that to Canada.

H.M.Jr:

Let me make that a little simpler. There are
two kinds of gold.

Bell:

I appreciate that.

H.M.Jr:

Let me explain it to you, because they may not

have got it. This thing has been kept fairly
quiet. There is French gold on deposit with

Canada, and there is French gold on deposit
with the Bank of Canada for the account of
England. Now, when it comes to taking the French

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- 26 gold which is on deposit for the account of
Canada, Prime Minister MacKenzie King has

refused twice at least to do it on account
of his French population. I wanted you to
get that. It is MacKenzie King personally
that says he hasn't been able to move it, but

when Canada sees this gold coming to us and
gets no gold from England, which she has some

now, and has got to sell her securities, MacKenzie King will not be so worried about his
French population.

White:

He may be able to do some switching for Canada

instead of selling it. There is just one point
I am wondering if it is clear. There is

another mental ear-mark which is a half-way

step, and that is to ear-mark the gold in South
Africa, only ear-mark it below the ground.

There is a lot of it there, and they can
allocate some of it to --

Foley:

Just don't take that much out of the mine.
(Laughter.)

White:

You leave that much in.

Foley:

This sounds like an agricultural plan.

Bernstein:

Well, but why can't they --

Bell:

I don't see why they can't take all that gold

up there and not only ear-mark the gold down
in Canada but give them a - or hypothecate the

securities and direct assets in the United
States and let them pay it back when they sell
them.

White:

You can.

H.M.Jr:

Let me tell you something. If they would take
all the gold that is in Canada, and that was the

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- 27 assumption I went on originally, then they
had enough money to pay for all the contracts
they had placed up to the first of January.
White:

Oh, without using even their --

H.M.Jr:

Securities.

White:

Direct investments.

Bell:

They have got enough to take care of both the
Canadian and British?

H.M.Jr:

That is why I have never been worried. When
I told Bill Knudsen the money was there, the

gold was there, I just think this, to answer
Bell's question, why bring it up here. I
think as long as we take every step to get it

up here - they might change their minds.

The communications from South Africa up here

get more difficult. A battleship might not

be available three months from now, and I

think all of those things - that with my

record, "I have never left a stone unturned,
gentlemen of the Senate, to get everything

that we could in our interest."

White:

Moreover, three months from now a battleship

from South Africa might involve a risk of

a submarine attack, because we may be involved.
Foley:

More involved than we are now.

Bell:

It would still be our gold, on the bottom of
the ocean.

(Telephone conversation with Secretary Stimson

follows.)

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March 8, 1941
10:22 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello,

Henry L.
Stimson:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

How are you?

S:

I'm ashamed to call you for what I am, but

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes, just a second. Oh, it was Max Jordan.

S:

What?

H.M.Jr:

It was either Max Jordan or Max Gordon.

S:

Max Jordan or Max Gordon.

H.M.Jr:

I wanted to know the name of that commentator
that was mentioned yesterday at the table by
Claude Wickard. Don't you remember?

Yeah. I couldn't tell from his pronunciation
whether it was a "J" or a "G", but it was the
N.B.C. commentator in Berlin and either Max
Jordan or Max Gordon, I don't know which.

S:

Yes, I see. Well, that's near enough.

H.M.Jr:

And he's the N.B.C. commentator in Berlin.

S:

Well, that can be identified that way.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

S:

I think Claude was right in his emphasis on

the necessity of getting that picture over to

the people before we get them mad enough to
do anything.
H.M.Jr:

Right.

S:

All right. Well, thank you.

H.M.Jr:

As good a way as any is to do the way Bill

Schwirer did it; he did it through LIFE

Magazine.
S:

Bill Schyirer, yes.

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-2H.M.Jr:

He did it through LIFE. They ran two stories

S:

How does he spell his name?

H.M.Jr:

I think it's S-c-h-r-e-1-r-e-r.

S:

H.M.Jr:
S:

written by him in LIFE and everybody saw that.

S-c-h-r-e-1-r-e-r
Don't ask me on spelling. Just a minute I'm writing it out. Just let me see.
I'm trying to do the same.

H.M.Jr:

I think it's S-c-h-e-1-r-e-r. William Scheirer.
Yes, all right.
I think that's the way it's spelled. That's

S:

Yes. What was he?

H.M.Jr:

Well, he was also commentator in Berlin and

S:

For N.B.C.?

H.M.Jr:
S:

H.M.Jr:

pretty close.

No, I think for Columbia - Columbia Broadcasting
Co. In any case he's in Westchester County
writing a book, a condensation of which was run
in LIFE Magazine, and they ran a series of two

articles, very well done, in LIFE, and they got
enormous publicity on it.

S:

Well, thank you very much.

H.M.Jr:

O.K.

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- 28 H.M.Jr:

For once I can remember. My memory for these

last few weeks has been terrible. Does any-

body know whether it is Max Jordan or Max
Gordon?

White:

If the first name is Max, probably the last

name is Gordon.

Foley:

That is what I was thinking about, too.

Bernstein:

That is the name of the --

Cochran:

Waxie Gordon, wasn't it?

Bernstein:

I was going to try and suggest a preferably
legal method of acquiring that French gold of
the Bank of Canada. The Bank of France owes

a lot of gold to the Belgians and to the Poles,

which apparently is somewhere in West Africa

or other points, and if those claims were to

be assigned to Canada, Canada would be able to

set it off against the gold which it holds.

Bell:

That is true with the English gold in Paris,
I take it, that eight or ten million, whatever

it is.

Cochran:

That is pretty small.

Bell:

But you could get it.

Bernstein:

This other sum runs up to 260 million held for
the Belgians.

H.M.Jr:

Well, as they say on the farm, "Ruminate on it
from now until Tuesday." Do you know what that
means?

Foley:

Ruminate?

Cochran:

Sure, they chew their cud.

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- 29 White:

Is it a real agricultural term?

H.M.Jr:

Sure, a cow has seven stomachs, and the food
goes down and comes up again, and they chew

on it.
Bell:
White:

H.M.Jr:

Chews her cud.

It is a process of re-vegetation and re-absorp-

tion.

Yes, it is a pleasant idea. In a cow the stuff

comes down and comes up, and she chews it over,

and the COW ruminates. So just re-digest that,
will you?
Bell:

Don't founder.

White:

I think you would be interested in one of the
items which we learned at S.E.C.

H.M.Jr:

Can you just hold that S.E.C. business for a

minute?
White:

Yes, if I can hold it.

Foley:

Have you got the time, Harry?

H.M.Jr:

I wanted to just go on - just hold that a
second. Now, are we all right so far? Now, I
won't attempt to etany battleship until Tuesday,
until we hear about it.

Cochran:

Well, they would have to subscribe to the idea.
I think they are sounding their people out on
it already.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Now, the other thing is this. I

would like to go from this to Canadian securities, and before I do the Canadian securities,

can I have a report on what has happened at
the S.E.C. about my idea of forming a corpora-

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tion to buy the English securities?
White:

Do you want to?

Foley:

Go ahead, Harry.

White:

Well, I had three meetings, and as a result of
the three meetings the feeling was that there
were too many difficulties, some of which would
run definitely counter to your own wishes in
setting up a corporation to handle the direct

investments. They made another tentative proposal to set up a committee which would function

in a certain manner to assist the British in the
di sposition of those securities, and it was
unanimously felt after consideration of that,
that it wouldn't do the trick. They abandoned
that, and they finally concluded that it was
possible to set up a group that could take over
the listed securities and provide cash very
quickly in a manner which I will indicate in
a moment and that that would provide time during
the next few months for the disposition of their
direct investments. They seemed certain that
the - that several hundred million dollars of
direct investments could be disposed of within
the next few months.

oley:

If the British were willing.

hite:

If the British were willing. He cited one case

of a reputable man who has a hundred million
dollars in cash to pay for the Viscose Company,
which they said - which this man said was

worth from 90 to 100 million dollars. We had

valued it at 108 million dollars in our books,

so that they may be boosted up to that. And
the man likewise said, in response to a question,
that they could complete the transaction within
two weeks. They were already familiar with some
aspects of the plan, that they would not run

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- 31 into any trust problem because they didn't
represent any of the large rayon producers,
but some small interests, and they also spoke
of some other items. There seemed to be a
considerable question in the minds of several
there as to why insurance companies should be

excluded from the sale. Pike particularly
seemed to feel that they should not be excluded, that they could get a market for it

and could be sold.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I didn't take that seriously. They are
serious about it, but I am not.

White:

But the sum total of that - the consensus was
that if they really meant business, they could
raise several hundred million dollars in the
next few months on the direct investments

alone, and on the listed securities, they could

arrange some groups, not necessarily corpora-

tions, to take over the listed securities along

your idea of making an advance payment with

title to pass. That created two difficulties

which I think should be mentioned. One was,
they thought that such a group would not wish
to have the decision, when to sell, how much

to sell, rest with the British, but rather with

the group who took it over and made the advance

payment; and that was one of the difficulties,
they didn't know whether the British would

accede to that.
H.M.Jr:

Let me just get this thing, because this thing
is awfully important. To sum up, as I get it
from the S.E.C. - who sat in on this?

White:

Jerry Frank, Ganson Purcell, Schenker, who is
head of the Investment Division, Pike was in

at a couple, and their legal counsel, chief
legal counsel was in on one.

Foley:

Chester Lane?

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- 32 White:

Yes, on two.

Foley:

Walter Louchheim and Ted Sheridan.

H.M.Jr:

Who from here?

Foley:

Well, Harry and Huntington and --

White:

Kamarck.

Foley:

And I went once.

H.M.Jr:

Now, let me get - the reasons we will put again
to one side. They are not going to do anything
about the direct investments, you see. Purvis
was at the house. There is no question that

they are going to sell that stuff. They are

having the managements from all these concerns

come over from England. They are terribly up-

set over the thing. They feel that their word
of honor is at stake, the whole question, and
they have got to keep faith with me.

Foley:

It seems to me that it is really a political
problem, and the amount of help they get is
directly attributable to the --

H.M.Jr:

Well, they appreciate it.

Foley:

To the amount of cooperation.

H.M.Jr:

They appreciate it. Now, let's put that aside

for the moment. The S.E.C. says there is a way
of forming a group on the New York thing?
White:

Yes, Mr. Frank said if you give him the green

light, he can contact two of the - a group of
leaders from the important associations to get

their advice on which way they think would be
best to handle it and whether a group would be

willing to take it over and still leave some
decision on the part of the British as to the
rate at which to sell, and then if their advice

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is satisfactory, he could contact that group

a second time with your permission to arrange

to get the groups with the necessary capital
to go forward with the arrangements.

H.M.Jr:

Well, is there any reason why I shouldn't call
up Frank right now and talk to him?

Foley:

None at all, except I don't think he is there.

H.M.Jr:

Where is he?

Foley:

Well, they called up Thursday, Thursday afternoon, Jerry did.

Cochran:

The only thing, do you want to speed up --

Foley:

...and wanted to know whether you wanted him

to do this over the weekend, because if so, he
would stay here, and otherwise he would go, and
I told him I didn't think we would get a chance
to get to you until Saturday or Sunday, and he
said under those circumstances, he would go out
of town.

H.M.Jr:

He will be back Monday?

Foley:

Yes, he will be back Monday. You might try him.

H.M.Jr:

I will try him anyway. What is the matter?

Cochran:

The question is whether you are satisfied with
the rate at which they are selling now.

H.M.Jr:

I am satisfied with the rate they are selling,
if they were selling their direct investments,

which they are not.
Cochran:

Yes, but I think you have to handle them separ-

ately. I mean, this last week they had this
one transaction of 11 and a half million dollars,

and they have some others lined up.

37

- 34 H.M.Jr:

I am not satisfied, is the answer.

Cochran:

Well, we can start on the Canadians. We
haven't even told them to go ahead yet.

H.M.Jr:

But I would like to explore this thing. I

don't want to leave the thing undone. I want
to explore everything, and if all the thing I think it would help our markets, too.
Foley:

I think so. Getting that out of the way would

relieve a good deal of apprehension on the
part of investors who are awfully worried about

buying any kind of listed securities now for
fear that this will be dumped, and the price
will go down and they will get hooked.
White:

There is one other difficulty that he mentioned

for your consideration, and that is that, if
these groups are to function on the listed

securities, that they felt rather certain that

they would want to handle all and not parts,
and that they would want to know what the
securities were before they took them over.

That was one of the other difficulties.
H.M.Jr:

Well, that is all right. Because the reason

that - I just don't feel- I mean, that - I
mean - I didn't like Phillips' attitude the

other day at all, where he comes in and says,
"What are you going to do about our financial

situation, and if there is a way of organizing

a group now to take over these things, I would

like to do it.

(Telephone conversation with Jerome Frank
follows.)

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March 8, 1941
10:36 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Frank in his office.

Jerome

Frank:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

How are you?

F:

Pretty good. Are you out of town?
No, I'm at the Treasury. I got to my own
group on this list of securities quicker than
I thought I would and they are sitting here

H.M.Jr:

with me and they've told me about the three

meetings with you.
F:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Now, I would be delighted if you could sound
out some people as to whether they would care

to take this stuff over
and I'm particularly anxious to find out what
is possible because Canada has approached us
about their selling $350 millions worth of
American securities.

F:

Well, do you mean, Henry, the idea of our
getting some committees of these fellows
together, I mean, of the investment associations.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

F:

All right. Well, I'll get after it right away
and try to arrange it for Monday.

H.M.Jr:

F:

H.M.Jr:
F:

Yes. Now, I just think this. I haven't told

Gifford that we were going to do this. Don't
you think we ought to tell him?
Yes, I think so. You are now talking of the
listed securities.

I'm talking of the listed.
Yes, I think Gifford ought to know it first.

39

-2H.M.Jr:

What?

F:

Yes, he ought to know it, otherwise he'll hear

H.M.Jr:
F:

H.M.Jr:
F:

H.M.Jr:

it indirectly.
Yes. Well, I'll get word to him that I've
asked you to explore this.

Well, then I'11 wait until I hear from you
that you've done it before I start.
All right.
I'll try to get it going Monday.
That's right. I'll have Cochran call him up
at once and report directly to you what his
conversation is.

F:

Now, on the direct investments, Henry, the
boys feel that there are some of those things
they' ve got that could be worked out with

considerable promptness.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I agree. They're having a hell of a time.
I still think that they didn't want to do it.
I don't think that the man they brought over
is too good at it.

F:

Well, Dave Schenker told me a story that Was

amazing yesterday. He spoke to Bunker, that's
Lehman Brothers, who I guess wouldn't like to
get his name dragged in but, I don't know, maybe
he wouldn't care. He went to see that gentleman,
Mr. P., yesterday and he left; he was absolutely
disgusted; he said the fellow doesn't want to
sell. He gave him hell. He said, "You just
don't understand this country and if you take

that attitude you're going to be in terrible

shape." I mean that's very interesting because
Bunker is 195% pro-British, but he thinks this

fellow is deliberately dragging his feet. Now
would you like to hear from him? From Bunker?

H.M.Jr:

F:

No, because I - both Purvis and Phillips have
lighted a bonfire under this fellow Peacock
and they are both just as disgusted as I am.
Well, Peacock had better show his tail.

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H.M.Jr:

Well, if he doesn't show some results, I'm
going to ask to have him recalled. See?

F:

Fine.

H.M.Jr:

I'm going to give him another week or so and
then if he doesn't make a sale, I'm going to
ask the Ambassador to have him recalled.

F:

Now, this fellow Bunker is loyal to the American
that story got out you'd ruin the Lease-Lend

Administration effort, he's all for it, but if
Bill.

H.M.Jr:

F:

H.M.Jr:
F:

Well, as I say, if they don't show me something -

I got a letter from Peacock, I think it was
yesterday, he's got five deals that he's trying
to get through, but if he doesn't get one or
two of them through next week, I think I'm

going to have him recalled.
Very good. Now, Henry, yesterday the Swiss
Minister called on me as a result of something I had been chatting with Henry Wallace, you know,
who is related to him.
Yeah, I know.

He said that he would like to discuss their
situation and I said, "Well, it's not my
business - it's State and Treasury - e're
simply giving them a little assistance. Well,
he said, would it be possible to arrange to
have some of your fellows, like Harry White and
Bernstein and so on, and somebody from State
and somebody from our shop sit down with him

and one of their bankers and candidly discuss
the situation.
H.M.Jr:
F:

Well, they've all done that.
Well, he says he has never had an opportunity for instance, he's never talked at length and
in detail with some fellow, like a Swiss banker
who is here and knows the situation

H.M.Jr:

Which one? Which bank?

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F:

I've forgotten, Somebody that's in New York,
and he wondered whether - he thought it would be
helpful if we understood their point of view
and so forth.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we understand it fully. I'11 talk to my
crowd about it but, personally, I think it's
just a waste of time.

F:

You do.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, that's just a - what do they call it - a

F:

That's what I think they are.

H.M.Jr:
F:

H.M.Jr:

fence.

Well, we know 80.

That's what I told him.
They're just a fence and we've been over it

and I've - he got, practically, hysterics here
in my office.

F:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

But let me talk to my crowd. If you don't hear
from us, it's just that they ve been over it once.
Well, I told him it wasn't my business and I

F:

couldn't do anything unless you wanted to.

H.M.Jr:
F:

Well, I'11 talk to them. If you don't hear,
then it means that we think it's a waste of time.
All right. Well, I'11 get busy as soon as I hear
from your having contacted Gifford.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Co chran will call up Gifford and tell him
what we're doing and he will call you within the
hour, and I'm very much obliged.

F:

Fine.

42

- 35 Bell:

Jay Crane says they are interested in Shell.

H.M.Jr:

You see, if you people will read McCormick's

article on the fifth page of the New York
Times today, if we don't do everything

possible like this - and I don't like the

idea - the R.F.C. will do it, and they have
even got the forms drawn up.

White:

That is the point that Ed made at the meeting
there, and Ed thought that maybe if they knew

that, it might help.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you (Cochran) are my contact with

Gifford, aren't you?

Cochran:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Simply call up Gifford and tell him that I am
going to go ahead. I have asked Mr. Frank to
go ahead and contact various groups to see

whether they would be interested in taking,
not only the English, but the Canadian securities, over en bloc.
Cochran:

Are these investment bankers that he has contacted?

H.M.Jr:

I don't know what they are.

Cochran:

What are they, Ed?

White:

They are the heads of investments associations.

They presumably are men who would not, themselves,

be interested, but they are leaders of the profession who would give them their opinion as to

how it might be handled under these conditions.
Cochran:

H.M.Jr:

And that you are telling the S.E.C. to go ahead

with it?

I am telling the S.E.C. to go ahead, that this
doesn't mean that I am dis-satisfied with these

43
- 36 day-to-day operations, which I am not, but

that I feel in view of this and the request

from Canada and in view of the fact that Mr.
Peacock has been a complete failure so far,
I have to see that there is more money coming
forward than the ten million dollars a week,

because I don't know - if I thought that

Peacock was going to produce, I wouldn't be
pushing this, but inasmuch as Peacock - I see

no signs of his getting anywhere, plus the
Canadian's wants to do it, I have got to move

on this front, but I am entirely satisfied with

his day-to-day operations, and then after you
talk with him, would you call Mr. Frank, please?
Cochran:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Anybody disagree with me? I mean --

White:

I think he should make it clear that you have
asked the S.E.C. to investigate the possibilities and not go ahead and form the groups.

H.M.Jr:

No, no, that they are going to investigate,
and they are going to do it, and that just as

soon as they have anything, the S.E.C. and the
Treasury will have Mr. Gifford come down and
consult with him.

Cochran:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Do you see?

Cochran:

I understand.

H.M.Jr:

But the thing is, one, Canada's desire to sell,

and two, Mr. Peacock is unable to produce anything.

Cochran:

Incidentally, part of Gifford's staff is now

working with Peacock trying to shove it along.

44

- 37 H.M.Jr:

If we did this, maybe Gifford could devote

all of his time to it, and they could send

Peacock home. I think we have covered a lot
of ground, don't you?
Foley:

Don't you think if you told these fellows that

unless progress was made insofar as these
direct investments were concerned, we would

have to canvass the possibilities of operating
through a corporation to be set up by the R.F.C.

to take over all of this stuff and then sell
the stuff - I think if you told them that,
that would force them to do it or else, but I
think you have got to show some progress before
we go down on the Hill on this stuff.
H.M.Jr:

Ed, let me decide one time to use the big stick.

I have really got Purvis and Phillips really

exercised on this thing, you see, and let me

make the move now on the S.E.C.
Foley:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

And you know I have the letter from the British
Ambassador giving me - wanting to put it all
in my hands, and Purvis said last night he
thought it was one of the smartest letters he

ever saw. He says, "You do and you don't, and
you haven't given up anything." 11 He liked the

letter very much. He thought it was very smart.

So let's just move on this. I am satisfied, and

we will meet again Tuesday, and then on Monday

if you could have something for me, I would
like to discuss the mechanics on the Lend-Lease

Bill. Is that pushing you fellows too hard?
I mean, on the theory that the bill passes?
Foley:

Well, there is a chance the bill may pass tonight at a night session.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, they say it is very good.

45

- 38 Foley:

I think if they had held a night session
Thursday night there would be no question
about it.

H.M.Jr:

Halsey was positive, last night, to me, that it

would go.
White:

I don't think you should wait until the bill
passes.

Foley:

No, I think you ought to have a meeting anyway.

H.M.Jr:

I am going to have a meeting Monday morning

with you gentlemen at 10:45. Have you got
anything at 10:45, Bell?

Bell:

I don't think so. I will change it if I

have.

H.M.Jr:

Ten forty-five. I am going to put down LendLease. Now, who sits in on that?

Foley:

Cox.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

White:

Wouldn't Young sit in? Doesn't he sit in?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, Young. Would you (Foley) be in on that?

Cochran:

I will come if I can be of any help.

H.M.Jr:

And Harry and you people come, plus Philip

Young. Would you (Foley) tell Philip?
Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

All right?

White:

On your meeting on Tuesday, I take it, you
were going to see us before you saw the
British again.

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H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

Bell:

This is only with us, isn't it, at 10:15?

Foley:

That is 10:15, and the other one Monday is

H.M.Jr:

10:45.

There is nothing to inform the State Depart-

ment about, is there?
Cochran:

I am to ask the British now for this additional information and to draw up a note to
them for you to see Tuesday.

H.M.Jr:

But
the first thing to do is talk with
Gifford.
Thank you all.

47

March 8, 1941.

TO:

MR. KUHN

FROM:

THE SECRETARY

I'll be glad to see this English movie in my
dining room at 11:00 o'slook this morning if you can
arrange it.

Movie, "London Can Take It," shown in

Secretary's dining room at 11:00 a.m.,

March 8, 1941.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
Higa

DATE

For
TO

FROM

March 8, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Following our Group Meeting this morning, I telephoned Mr. Gifford in New
York at 10:45 a.m. I told him that the Secretary was quite pleased with the way his
sales of marketable securities had been going, and he wanted me to let Mr. Gifford
know it. On the other hand, the Treasury has now been approached by the Ministry of
Finance of Canada with respect to the possible liquidation of some $350,000,000 of
Canadian-held United States securities. Furthermore, no liquidation has yet been made
of British direct investments. The Secretary is anxious to explore every possibility
for insuring an orderly and rapid liquidation of British and Canadian investments
toward the end that the needed dollar proceeds may be flowing in, and that at the same
time the securities market may not be adversely affected. In this spirit we are having
the cooperation of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

I then told Mr. Gifford that the Secretary has approved the idea that Chairman

Frank of the Securities and Exchange Commission call to Washington a group from the

Jew York Investment Association to consider the possibility of setting up of some private
organization to take over en bloc British and/or Canadian holdings of marketable securities, and also to consider whether anything can be done with respect to direct investments. I assured Mr. Gifford that the Secretary did not want any conversations started
between the Securities and Exchange Commission and New York Investment people on this

subject without Mr. Gifford being first made aware of the idea. Furthermore, there
would be no thought of carrying through the idea of setting up a group, if this appears
feasible after the initial conversations, without again consulting Mr. Gifford.
Mr. Gifford asked me to thank the Secretary for authorising me to acquaint
with developments here. He offered no objection whatever to Mr. Frank getting

into the lines above

him
contact with the investment group along set forth. Mr. which Gifford
vas also gratified to know that the Secretary was pleased with the manner in
marketable securities are being liquidated. In turn, I let Mr. Gifford know that we
are happy to learn that his organisation was assisting Sir Edward Peacock in the

latter's difficult task.

Immediately after this conversation, I telephoned Chairman Frank of the
Securities and Exchange Commission. I told him that I had been present when the
Secretary had spoken with him from our meeting this morning, and I also recounted his my

conversation with Mr. Gifford. Mr. Frank said he would, therefore, proceed with

plan and endeavor to have a group from New York meet at the Securities and Exchange
Commission on Monday.

pmp

49

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 8, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthan
Mr. Coohran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
In accordance with the decision reached in our Group Meeting with the Secretary

this morning, I telephoned the British Treasury officials at 11 a.m., and spoke with
Mr. Playfair. I referred to the conclusions reached on page 4 headed "Final Result"

of the memorandum on the British cash position which had been submitted to us yesterday.

I told Mr. Playfair that it would facilitate the Treasury in reaching an understanding
of the situation if the British would make available to us, preferably on Monday,

another statement showing the total amount of commitments and down-payments for the

period under consideration, together with as accurate information as possible as to

how much relief can be expected from the Army and how much from the R.F.C. This should
show then how much assistance would be required from the Treasury along the lines suggested in the British memorandum. Playfair promised to have this for us by Monday.

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March 8, 1941
11:03 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Admiral Towers.

Admiral
Towers:

Good morning.

H.M.Jr:

How are you, Admiral?

T:

Very well, thank you, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Admiral, have you got a pencil?

T:

H.M.Jr:

Yes, sir.
There is a Dr. Joseph Kreiselman, K, like in

kitty, K-r-e-1-8-e-1-m-a-n, who has come to me
and says that he has a device which has been

proven to make it possible for an aviator to

fly up to 37,000 feet. Hello?

T:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Operator:

He doesn't want any money, he is willing to
give the patent to the Navy and everything
else. Hello. He isn't interested in the
manufacturing rights or anything, you see.
The thing has been tested at Harvard University.
He is a man who is a reputable doctor
Hello. Have you been cut off?

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Were you cut off from Admiral Towers?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Operator:

Go ahead, please.

H.M.Jr:

Admiral?

T:

Yes, sir. I got up to 37,000 feet and we
were out off.

H.M.Jr:

The man wants to give it to the Government.
He doesn't want any money, no interests in the

manufacturing rights, or anything. It has

51

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T:

been tested at Harvard University. Hello?
Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Would you give him time enough yourself to

listen to the story because he telle me he

has been unable to get anybody interested.

T:

H.M.Jr:

I'd be glad to. Is he in town now?
He lives in Washington and his name is in
the telephone book. Dr. Joseph Kreiselman.
He's an anesthetist. The man has had
heart trouble 80 he can't practice any more.

T:

I see. I'll communicate with him.

H.M.Jr:

Would you see him personally?

T:

H.M.Jr:

T:

I will.
And if the Navy is not interested, then I
want to have him see Bob Lovett because Lovett
has told me about this new plane that the
Army 18 getting to go up 40,000 feet.
Yes. Of course we are - confidentially, we
are quite confident that's what happened to
our test pilot here three days ago, who was
killed.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that's what Dr. Kreiselman says.

T;

That it was oxygen failure.

H.M.Jr:

Well, he invented this thing for resuscitating

T:

Well, I have some very able specialists here

babies which is used all over America.

that I'd be delighted to have him talk with.

H.M.Jr:

Who is that?

T:

One is Commander Poppin of the Medical Corps,
who has made a specialty on this, and the
other is Lieutenant Commander Sullivan, who

has only recently joined the Naval Reserve,
I mean he's an engineer.

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H.M.Jr:

T:

Well, if you would take a few minutes to talk
to him yourself and then let me know, would
you, what you've done about it.

I will. I'11 try to get hold of him this

morning.
H.M.Jr:

Because, frankly, he has been given the run-

T:

I see. I'll get hold of him this morning.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

around.

Thank you.

53

March 8, 1941
11:44 a.m.
H.M.Jr:
Harry

Harry?

Hopkins:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Are you so you can talk for five minutes?

H:

Yes. I've got a terrible confession to make

H.M.Jr:

What's that?

to you though.

Well, I accepted a week ago a dinner invitation
for tomorrow night and now my secretary reminds
me of it.

H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

I see. Well, that's my bad luck.
Yeah, I'm awfully sorry, Henry. I find I
promised to go out to the Librarian's - what's
his name

H.M.Jr:

MacLeish.

H:

Archie MacLeish's.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

H:

H.M.Jr:

I'd forgotten all about it.
Well, we can get together - Monday night I'm
out, but you wanted to settle this sooner,
don't you?

H:

H.M.Jr:

Well, I want to talk to you - no, it doesn't
have to be done until the first of the week.
Well, I think the sooner the better. Well,
let me tell you what I have on my mind and
then you suggest a time.

H:

H.M.Jr:

Go ahead.

I told you I had Purvis last night and I've
been working with Phil this morning and this
is a suggestion I'd like to make and then I'd
like to have Phil come over and talk to you
further about it if it's agreeable to you.

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In order to get rid of this foreign thing,
we divided it up into sort of three blocks:

those countries which will come under the
Lend-Lease, which is the British Empire and

any countries that are fighting with them,
I mean, for the moment Greece, Norway or any
of these countries which are part - have their
governments in London, you see. Hello?
Yeah. What about China?

H:

H.M.Jr:

China too. Any of these countries who would
come under the thing. Then one of the worst
headaches is South America, see, and we were

thinking for a better place to hand that all
over to Nelson Rockefeller - his group. I
mean, I'm just giving that as a suggestion,

you see.
H:

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

There are about eight different committees

working on South America. Somebody else may

say give it to somebody else, but I don't see

why you'd want to be bothered with that.
H:

H.M.Jr:

No, I'm sure I don't.
Then things like Russia, Portugal, Iran or
any of these others, just give them back to
Sumner Welles.

H:

Let him handle the whole business.

H.M.Jr:

Well, let him handle anything that isn't

Lend-Lease - you'd let him handle South America
too?

H:

No, not necessarily. Here's one of the -

did Young talk to you about what we talked
about?

H.M.Jr:
H:

Yes, he did.

These countries are all coming to him now
and apparently he's got three or four people

to do it very easily and seem to get results
and if you're going to change all that Nelson Rockefeller, those fellows, God it'11

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I'm just thinking outloud.
H.M.Jr:

Well, we haven't accomplished anything for

H:

What do you mean you haven't accomplished?

H.M.Jr:

South America anyway.

Well, very little. You've got to spend a
month getting them two engines. It's all

damn nonsense. See? And that would leave
Philip

H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

H.M.Jr:

It isn't worth doing is your point, 80 let
somebody else do it.

Yeah, and that would leave Philip and his
crowd free to be entirely at your disposal.
Yeah. Of course, that would be much better.
And they wouldn't be fussing with South
America, or Russia, or Portugal or anything
else, but they would be on the funds of
people of these democratic countries that we're
going to help under the Lend-Lease. Now,

from an ideal standpoint it - on paper it
doesn't look so good, but from a practical
standpoint

H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

Well, now, Phil knows all about this.
I've talked with Phil twice today.
Well, I'11 see him before the weekend is out.

All right. Now, if you want to
Let me find out what my plane are. I'11 call

you this afternoon sometime, Henry, sometime
when you are free.
H.M.Jr:
H:

H.M.Jr:

All right. And I'11 have Phil call you or
Oh, I'll get in touch with him. I know how
to get him.
But how does that sound to you?

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H:

H.M.Jr:

Well, I'd like to talk it over as to whether

there are some kinks in it from the State
Department point of view. I know I don't want
anything to do with it. Now if Young is
going to help me, I'd of course much prefer
that Young didn't have anything to do with it.
Well, I'm taking a much further position
that with Young helping you, that would leave
the tag ends over here.

H:

H.M.Jr
H:

H.M.Jr:

Well, you don't want all those tag ends
around there.

I'm not going to do it. See?
Oh, no, no. You don't want the Minister of
Colombia coming in to see you.

No, I just can't do it, but that would leave
Young and his little group entirely at your
disposal.

H:

Yeah. Well, I'11 talk to Phil about it right
away, Henry, old boy.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

H:

Good-bye.

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March 8, 1941
11:53 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Gordon

Rentschler: Hello, Henry, good morning. This is Gordon.
H.M.Jr:

How are you?

Fine. Henry, I don't know whether it would
be of any help to you or not, but I'm calling

R:

you as chairman of the clearing house committee
in New York to say that I had these boys pass

a resolution which well give you, if you wish,
offering without charge all the services of
the clearing house banks of New York in
helping you with your various issues, no
matter what they are, that your program is
you want to put out.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I think that's fine.

R:

Now, if making our gesture at the right moment

is of any help to bring all the other banks
in the country in line, why we'll do it
formally, or informally, just as you like.

H.M.Jr:

R:

H.M.Jr:
R:

Well, now, we're working on that here through
this Savings Bond Section, you see, and we're
working with the A.B.A. on that.

That's right.
My contact right now is with the A.B.A.

Oh, fine. That's by far - that's exactly

the right thing to do. of course, Randolph
is keeping his fingers on that too, as you

know.

H.M.Jr:

And so I think that whatever announcement

should come, I'd like it to come from the A.B.A.

R:

Well, now, whenever you're ready - when are

you going to be ready with it?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't know. They think it will be
another couple of weeks.

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I see. Well, whenever you're ready, if you
want to couple this with the A.B.A. or let the
A.B.A.
do it on their own account, I just
want to

R:

H.M.Jr:

Well, you're all members of the A.B.A.

R:

We're all members of the A.B.A.

H.M.Jr:

In good standing.

R:

We're all members of the A.B.A. only it might

be of value for you to say that all the clearing
and then if all the other clearing houses in
the country, as they will, follow suit, tie
that into the A.B.A., it might be a little

house banks of New York had done 80 and so,

helpful.
H.M.Jr:
R:

Well, thank you very much.

Well, whatever it is, Henry, whichever way you'd
like to handle it, why we're agreeable to do it.

H.M.Jr:

And no charge.

R:

Oh, yes, no charges.

H.M.Jr:

O.K.

R:

Because I wanted to - and they were all unanimous

in it. They wanted to be sure that that was

completely understood, you see.
H.M.Jr:

O.K.

R:

What else do you know?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I think that's enough for today.
All right, young fellow. Are you going to be

R:

in Washington all next week?

H.M.Jr:
R:

H.M.Jr:

I'm afraid so.
Well, if you're going to be free on Thursday,
I might drop in for a few minutes.

Well, that's a lifetime off. Give me a ring.

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I'll give you a ring on Wednesday before I

leave Boston, Henry.

R:

All right.
All right. Good luck to you. You're keeping

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

R:

Good luck to you.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

R:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

yourself in good health are you?

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 8, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

H. D. White

FROM

Subject:

The British Financial Picture
(Highlights of appended memorandum prepared by

Mr. Adler.)

1. British Government expenditures now consume over
60 percent of national income. Expenditures have been

running at the rate of $18 billion per year for the last

four months and the national income for 1940 is estimated
at about $28 billion. Expenditures for war purposes account
for between 80 and 90 percent of all expenditures. The

financial scale of the war effort doubled between April

and November 1940, and has since remained the same.

2. Gross National Debt rose by $9-1/2 billion -from $34.1 billion to $43.6 billion - in the first sixteen
months of war. The actual increase in the debt was probably
greater. For whereas before there were outstanding $2
billion of gold assets, these assets had been depleted without liquidating the borrowing incurred to acquire them.
3. Despite the large increase in the Government's
borrowing, it is still able to borrow at a little over
3 percent on long-term and a little over 1 percent on shortterm. In fact it has been able to borrow on increasingly
favorable terms. The yield on 2-1/2 percent consols fell
from 3.68 percent in December 1939 to 3.49 percent in June

1940 and 3.27 percent in December 1940.

4. Taxation has increased about 70 percent since the

beginning of the war.

5. Britain is financing her war expenditures ($7-1/4
billion in 1939-40 and probably $16 billion in 1940-41) by
the following means:

1939-40 1940-41 (Estimated)
Taxation

If

1

1 Residual

12

.

Liquidation of gold holdings

21

#

Short-term borrowing
Long-term borrowing

58 percent
9

37-1/2 percent

about 28
28

about 6-1/2

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6. Expenditures are rising more rapidly than revenues,
and savings are insufficient to meet the gap. Expenditures
in 1941-2 will certainly be not less than $20 billion and
will probably be more.

7. Since the beginning of the War the official wholesale price index has risen more than 50 percent and the not
very reliable official cost of living index more than 25
percent (the actual increase in the cost of living was
probably nearer 40 percent). The rise in prices, however,
was much sharper in the first four months of war than in
1940.

8. Note circulation has risen by $400 million or
under 20 percent and demand deposits (London clearing banks)
by $1-3/4 billion, or 35 percent since the outbreak of war.
This compares with an increase of over 20 percent in our
note circulation and of over 25 percent in our demand deposits
(101 reporting cities) in the same period.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 1, 1941
TO

Mr. White

FROM

Mr. Adler

Subject:

How much is Britain spending?

I. The mounting scale of British expenditures.
1. British Government expenditures are now consuming over 60 percent

of the national income. Expenditures for the last three months
have been running at the rate of $18 billion per annum, and
national income for 1940 has been estimated at about $28 billion.
Of the $49 million spent daily, between $42 and $46 million are
for war purposes, of which about 80 percent goes to the fighting
services and the remainder for supplies, shipping, food and home
security.

2. British expenditures on the war effort just about doubled between
April and November 1940. They rose gradually from $17.5 million
daily in September 1939 to $32 million in March 1940. From

September 1939 to March 1940 the total average daily spending was

$24.5 million - or just about half the present level. In April

and May 1940, it fell to $23 million, but when Churchill's ministry
took over in June, it rose to about $38 million, at which level it

was maintained for the next three months. It jumped in October to
$44 million, and since November has run at the level of $49 million.
(Table I indicates the average daily changes in total and supply
expenditures and in the floating debt since the beginning of the
war. See Annex.)

daily

3. The January 1941 decline in supply expenditures to $42 millionAas

compared with $46 million in November and December 1940 is probably
temporary and seasonal.

4. The current rate of expenditure of just under $50 million a day
will probably not only be maintained but actually increased in the
course of the year. The reasons for this probable increase are:

(a) If the war is intensified, as appears likely, the cost of
waging it will rise.
(b) Government expenditures will be swollen by rising prices.
(For convenience of interpretation, all L figures in this memorandum are
rounded off and converted into dollars at $4 - to 11.)

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(c) While the enactment of the Lend-Lease Bill will undoubtedly
relieve England's financial burden, its effects may not be

sufficient to counteract the cost of the intensification of
the war and of rising prices, and in any case it will not
solve England's internal financing problem.

The Economist plausibly estimates next year's expenditures

at the gigantic sum of $20.5 billion. Since all previous estimates, whether official or unofficial, of future rates of
expenditure have been uniformly too low, this estimate also
should be regarded as, if anything, erring on the side of conservatism.

II. British Budgets 1939 - 41.
1. There have been three British War Budgets; the first was submitted
in September 1939 as a revised budget for the fiscal year April
1939 - March 1940, the second in April 1940, and the third in July
1940 as a revised budget for the fiscal year 1940-41. All three
under-rated the scale of expenditures necessary for the waging of
war and have partaken of the character of what Sir Kingsley Wood,
the present Chancellor of the Exchequer, has called "interim"
budgets.

To some extent this consistent under-estimate of the necessary
scale of expenditures was deliberate because it was thought desirable not to reveal the real magnitude of the war burden which the

nation had to bear. Many observers believe that this official

desire to conceal the extent of the burden was a psychological
error, insofar as the public was more than willing to respond to
any calls the Government might make. Moreover, as far as the first
two budgets are concerned, it would appear that the Government was
simply not contemplating war on a large scale. The July 1940 Budget
indicates a more realistic appreciation of the magnitude of the
financial problem, though again it was admittedly improvised and

did not go to the root of the question of switching as much of the
nation's financial and economic resources as possible to the war

effort. On the other hand, in the rapidly changing situations

with which the British Government was confronted, it was very

difficult to anticipate correctly the actual financial needs.

2. The following table presents these Budgets in summary form:

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British Budgets 1939-41

(In millions of dollars)
I

II

III

1939-40

1940-1

1940-1 Revised

IV

Increase in III
over I

Estimated Revenue
Actual Revenue

3,980
4,196

4,936

5,440

1,460

Estimated Expenditure

10,668

13,868

6,136

Actual Expenditure

7,732
7,268

Estimated Deficit
Actual Deficit

3,752
3,072

5,732

8,428

4,676

3. On the basis of the flow of receipts and expenditures from April
1940 to January 1941, the receipts for the fiscal year 1940-41
will be in the neighborhood of about $6 billion, or somewhat

above the estimated revenues, and expenditures will total approxi-

mately $16 billion, leaving a deficit of about $10 billion, or
$1-1/2 billion more than the estimated deficit.

4. The increase in revenue in 1940-41 over 1939-40 is negligible as
compared with the increase in expenditure. Revenues for 1940-41
will be less than 50 percent more than in 1939-40 when there was

already a deficit of over $3 billion, while expenditures will be

more than double those of the previous year, and the gap between

revenue and expenditure will inevitably continue to widen for the

duration of the War.
5.

The gross National Debt rose 28 percent in sixteen months. from
$34,088 million to $43,608 million between September 2, 1939 and

December 21, 1940. From September 2, 1939 to December 31, 1940,

the total Floating Debt rose from $4,670 million to $10,504 million,
an increase of almost 125 percent. In fact the actual position

was worse. As the Exchange Equalization Account had purchased gold

by issuing bills, i.e. by Government borrowing, gold held by the
Account was an asset held against the debt incurred in acquiring
it. But since the War the gold assets were depleted without any
corresponding reduction in the debt.

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III. How Britain is financing the War.
1. The 1939-40 expenditures of approximately $7-1/4 billion were
financed as follows:

(a) Taxation which yielded $4.2 billion, or 58 percent of the
total expenditures. The effective income tax was raised from
25 percent to 27-1/2 percent, and customs and excise taxes
and the charges for governmental services were increased.

(b) An increase in the floating debt from $3,680 million on March
31, 1939, to $5,958 million on March 31, 1940. Of this increase Treasury Bills accounted for $2,141 million, and Ways
and Means advances for $136 million. Actually not all the
increased issue of the Treasury Bills represents net Government
borrowing as Government departments absorbed about $840 million

of bills. Short-term borrowing, therefore, does not account
for more than $1,477 million, or just less than half of the

1939-40 deficit of over $3 billion, and over a fifth of total
expenditures.

(c) Long-term borrowing, which accounted for about $850 million

of the deficit and about one-eighth of total expenditures.

With the inauguration of the national savings campaign in
November 1939, the Government simultaneously exercising its
control over the money and capital markets and appealing to

the patriotism of its citizens, had no difficulty in borrowing

at 3 percent long-term, a rate which contrasts favorably with
the 5 percent of 1916-18.

Note: The existence of surpluses from extra-budgetary accounts
such as the unemployment insurance fund and the accumilation of
sterling balances in London by the Dominions and sterling area
countries facilitated the task of Government borrowing. The
use of extra-budgetary surpluses held in the form of Government
securities for current needs represents deferred long-term
borrowing, while the accumulation of sterling balances represents Empire credits to England. What was not met by genuine
savings and borrowing from these sources was met by bank purchases of Government securities.
(d) Use of gold holdings. Sir John Simon in his Budget speeches

indicated that U. K. gold holdings would be liquidated in
order to finance the war. This is a residual item and would
appear to account for between $600 and $700 million of expenditures.

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Note: While the Government incurs an internal debt in taking

over British-held foreign securities, it incurs no new internal
debt in liquidating its gold assets in the hands of the Stabilization Account. Therefore the liquidation of these securities
is in a different category from the liquidation of gold assets,
as far as internal financing is concerned.

2. 1940-41 expenditures will probably amount to $16 billion.
How is this expenditure being financed?

(a) Taxation, which will yield about $6 billion or only 37-1/2

percent of total expenditure, as compared with 57 percent in

the previous fiscal year. This drop in the proportion of

expenditure yield by revenue and the increase in the absolute
amount of expenditure are, taken together, the best indicators
of the magnitude of England's financial problem.
There have been drastic increases in taxation since the
The
beginning of the War,
standard income tax which amounted to 27-1/2 percent when the
war started, is now 42-1/2 percent; whereas at the outbreak
of the war half an individual's income was taxed away only
when he earned $68,000 or more per annum, now an individual

receiving $21,200 has to pay half of it in taxes. Sharp in-

creases have also been imposed in customs and excise taxes
and since October 21, 1940, a purchase tax amounting to 24

percent of the retail price in the case of luxuries and 12
percent of the retail price on many other products has come

into effect. Nevertheless, increased receipts from these
sources are, in Mr. Keynes' words, #chicken-feed to the

dragon of war".

(b) Short-term borrowing. In the nine months ending December 31,
1940, the floating debt increased from $5,958 million to
$10,504 million, an increase of over 75 percent. The break-

down in the increase of the floating debt for the last dates
available is as follows:

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Increase in British Floating Debt 1

(In millions of dollars)
Bank of
Treasury

Bills

Total

Public
Departments

Treasury

Deposits by

England
Advances

March 31, 1940

5,958

5,711

246

-

Dec. 31, 1940

10,504

8,607

344

202

Banks
-

1,352

The Treasury deposits by banks are a new short-term

borrowing device instituted on July 4, 1940, the object of
which was to divert to the Treasury the surplus funds of
the principal banks. The Government pays the banks 1-1/8
percent on six months non-negotiable deposit receipts. The
reasons for the adoption of this scheme were: (1) the uneven spread of revenue receipts; (2) the mounting expendi-

ture; (3) the present volume of Treasury bills; (4) the fact
that such borrowing is less inflationary than Ways and Means

Advances by the Bank of England.

The increasing extent to which resort has been had to

this device is indicated in the following table:
Treasury Deposits by Banks

(In Millions of Dollars)
July 26, 1940
August 31, 1940
September 30, 1940

October 26, 1940.
November 30, 1940
December 31, 1940

$

120
120
496

798

1,078
1,352

1 The Economist is our regular source for current floating debt data. As
Butterworth sends us floating debt figures only intermittently, it might
be advisable to ask him to supply us the data, with breakdowns, regularly.

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What proportion of total expenditures will be met by the
increase in floating debt in 1940-41?
The following table gives us a clue to the answer to
this question.
The British Budget Fiscal Year 1940-41

(In Billions of Dollars)
First 9 months
(Actual)
I

Revenue

Expenditures

Deficit

3.0
10.8
7.8

Whole Fiscal Year

Last Quarter

(Estimated)

(Estimated)

II

II I

6

16
10

3.0
5.2
2.2

To this estimated deficit of $2.2 billion, for the

January-March quarter of 1941, gross savings will contribute

about $1.1 billion (over $4.5 billion for the whole year
minus $3.4 billion yielded in the first nine months), leaving between $1 and $1.1 billion to be yielded by a further
rise in the floating debt, as presumably little or no gold

now remains to be liquidated.

While the floating debt has in the past declined season-

ally in the first three or four months of the calendar year
(it did so in these months in 1940 also), it may well rise

contra-seasonally by as much as $1 billion in the JanuaryMarch quarter unless accumulated sterling balances and extrabudgetary surpluses are used to buy longer-term Government

securities to a greater extent than in 1939-40. This would
bring it to a total of about $11.5 billion on March 31, 1940,
an increase of about $5-1/2 billion for the year.
Not all this increase, however, is incurred to meet

current expenditures. In the fiscal year 1939-40 Government
Departments used funds on hand to buy $840 million of Treasury

Bills, and it is possible that they will increase their
current holdings of Treasury Bills even further. If they
increase their holdings by approximately the amount they

bought in 1939-40, the rise in the floating debt will account
for over $4-1/2 billion, or 28 percent of total expenditures
and 45 percent of the deficit in the fiscal year 1940-41.

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(c) Long-term borrowing. The national savings campaign has
yielded $3,688 million up to January 25, and will probably

yield over $4-1/2 billion for the whole fiscal year, or 28
percent of total expenditures. This figure is a figure of
gross and not of net savings, as it is swollen by the reinvestment of the proceeds of vested securities, by bank
purchases of government securities which represent the
creation of credit, and also by Government departments' purchases. The encouraging response to the campaign for pro-

moting small savings is particularly worthy of notice.

Note: With the decline in unemployment, the surplus from
the unemployment insurance fund has increased. The health
insurance fund, the new commodity insurance fund which
started with $160 million, and the sterling balances accumulated in London by the sterling area countries and Canada
which totalled about $1-1/4 billion in December, represent
additional sources of borrowing.

(d) Liquidation of gold holdings which, as the Secretary re-

vealed to the House Committee on Foreign Relations, had been
almost completed by the end of December 1940, and amounted

to a reduction of approximately $1-3/4 billion in the pre-

war gold holdings.
Note: Gold acquired by the Exchange Equalization Account was

purchased by Treasury Bills. While the sale of gold could
have been used to reduce the floating debt, it has actually
been used to finance current expenditures./

3. The deficit for 1941-42 will be in the neighborhood of $12
billion, on the basis of the Economist estimate of expenditures of $20.5
billion next year. This allows for an increase in revenue from $6
billion in 1940-41 to $8 billion in 1941-42 to ensue from further drastic
increases in taxation.

IV. The present British financial situation.
1. The Government continues to be able to borrow at favorable
terms, paying just over 3 percent on long-term and one percent for shortterm. The official controls over the money and capital markets operate
smoothly, and gilt-edged securities have risen steadily and are now
11 percent higher than they were in September 1939. The last two

Government issues were made on terms more favorable to the Government

than previous war issues. The 3 percent Savings Bonds issued on
December 27, 1940, have a 25 year maturity, or six years more than the
first issue of the war, and the 2-1/2 percent War Bonds issue of the
same date has a year and a half longer life than its predecessor.

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The British Government's ability to borrow at comparatively low
rates is due chiefly to its effective controls over the money and
capital markets. Their position is less favorable than our own
Government's to the extent that they do not have huge volumes of
idle funds from which to draw. On the other hand, through the
Treasury and Bank of England's control, adidas investment funds

accruing from the sale of vested securities, for instance, are
immediately diverted into Government securities. The existence of
temporary surpluses in Government departments, the accumulation
of Empire sterling balances in London, and the banking system's

increased holdings of Government bills and securities have also
facilitated their task. A separate memorandum on the British
Honey Market in wartime is now in the course of preparation,

2. Since the beginning, the official wholesale price index has
risen more than 50 per cent and the official cost of living

index by more than 25 per cent. According to our London Embassy,

the official cost of living index underrates the urise in the
cost of living because of the antiquated manner in which it is
constructed, and the actual rise in cost of living is probably
nearer 40 than 30 per cent.

The rise in prices was much sharper in the first 4 months of
war than in 1940, during which it was quite gradual and appeared

to be well under control, as a result of the Government's price
control measures, its subsidisation of certain essential foods to
the tune of $400 million a year, and to rationing.
British Prices 1939-41
(1928 - 100)
1939

1940

1941

Aug. Dec. June Dec. Jan.

128
Wholesale Price Level 84 104 115 127
93 104 109 177.5 118
Cost of living

As long as the rise in prices continues to be gradual the
British have no reason for alarm. While the German cost of
living and wholesale price indexes have risen by less than
2 and 3 percent respectively since the beginning of the War,
this is partly because the Germans had over six years' start
in their technique of control and partly because their figures
are much less dependable.

3. Note circulation has risen by $400 million or under 20 percent
and demand deposist by $1 3/4 billion since September 1939.
While the increase in demand deposits to a considerable extent

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reflects expansion of bank credit to finance Government

borrowing, the liquidity position of the London clearing banks i.e., the ratio of their cash, cheques in course of collection,
money at call and short notice, and bills discounted (plus
Treasury deposit receipts) to deposit liabilities has actually
improved, owing to their increased holdings of Treasury bills
and the creation of Treasury deposit receipts.
4. While the scale of expenditures will have more than doubled by
the end of the year, revenue will have barely increased 50 percent,
and the gap between the two continues to expand. The scale of

saving which is yielding about $100 million a week is insufficient
in relation to Britain's needs. Furthermore her gold assets have
been more or less depleted and her other foreign assets are being
currently used up.

5. But the technique of control over investment has been so
perfected that enormous deficits can still be financed without
nearly so much strain as was the case in the last war, and at much
lower interest rates.
6. The Government has not yet devised an integrated economic
policy such as Germany's embracing the budget, price control,

wage control, and full mobilization of resources.

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ANNEX

British Government Daily Expenditures Sentembs 1939 - January 1941

(In Millions of Dollars)
Changes in the

Total Expenditures Supply Expenditures Floating Debt
1939

/10

17.5

14

19

14

23

20.5

t 10.5
t 12.5

28

24

t 14

25

23

24.5
31.5

23

30

-5
- 3.5
t 1.5

April

26

23

- 13

May

28.5

25

t 17.5

June

38

July

39

August
September
October

40

November
December

September
October
November
December
1940

January
February
March

39
44

39

t 16

48.5

46

t 23.5

49

46

t 24

49

42

1941

January

t 19

35.5
36.5
38.5
37.5

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MAR 8 1941

MEMORANDUM

To:

Mr. Harry Hopkins

From:

O. S. Cox

Subject: Major Ob jectives Under H.R. 1776.

There are several additional observations that I.
would like to make on the two major objectives of (1)
outmatching the Axis Powers in both productive capaci ty

and defense articles on hand, and (2) the proper relationship between appropriations for productive capacity expansion and appropriations to buy finished defense articles.
(1)

Margin of Safety Factor
I know of no case in modern times where the need for
defense articles has been over-anticipated. The demands

for defense articles in times as troubled and as changing

as the present increase rapidly. Therefore, in attempting
to anticipate needs for defense articles, it would seem
wise to allow an adequate margin of safety.

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There are two such safety factors that the United
States probably ought to keep in mind: (a) Our geograph-

ical situation; and (b) The productive capacity and defense articles on hand of Britain.
It would seem, therefore, that we ought to try to
outstrip the Axis Powers in productive capacity and defense articles on hand without reference to what Britain
is producing or without reference to the advantage which

our geographical situation may give us. Thus, if the total
productive capacity of the Axis Powers is 60,000 combat
planes per year, we probably ought to shoot at that mark

without relying on the British production.
One of the reasons for the past supremacy of the

British fleet has been that it was grounded on safety factors such as those just mentioned. Up until recent times
the British fleet was built and developed on the assumption

that it should be larger than the fleets of any possible
combination of enemies.

Reliance on another country for all purposes is not
always sound. To a large extent, the British always assumed

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that France and its productive capacity would be available
in Britain's cause through France as a continuing Ally.

It was for this reason that until qui te recently it was
assumed that Britain would have the use of French air
bases in its attacks on Germany. Only very few people in

the British Government, as I understand it, insisted on the
production of long-range bombers, on the assumption that

the French bases might not be available to Britain, This
insistence did not bear fruit soon enough, as the facts now

indicate. That is doubtless one of the reasons why Britain
is short of bombers with a long enough range effectively to
bomb Germany.

The theater and conditions of war change so rapidly
that only an adequate productive capacity and an adequate

number of defense articles on hand can make it possible to

adapt to such changes. Thus, Britain, relative to the defense of the British Isles in the narrower sense, may have
enough fighter planes. For the purposes of bombing Germany,

it is relatively inferior. The same may also turn out to

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number of planes of all types, plus a commensurate productive capacity, it can meet such conditions and changes
as these without being concerned too much about conserving

what it has in military and naval equipment.
(2)

The Proper Relationship Between Appropriations
for Expansion of Productive Capacity and Appro-

priations to Purchase Defense Articles.

At the rate at which we are making actual expenditures

for defense, it is clear that we are going to have great difficulty in spending, in the fiscal year 1941, the moneys
which are already appropriated for that fiscal year. From
July 1, 1940 through March 4, 1941, we have expended, through
the Army and Navy, for national defense the amount of

$2,947,518,849. There has been already appropriated well in

excess of 10 billion dollars for the Army and Navy for the
fiscal year 1941. More will doubtless be appropriated for the
fiscal year 1941.
The expenditures for defense on March 4 amounted to 24

million dollars. This figure is probably not representative
of the defense articles which we are procuring or paying

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for because of the heavy cantonment building that is now

going on. In this connection, it is interesting to note
that the British war effort is now costing about 12 million
pounds per day.

The daily rate of spending for defense will doubtless
increase as more and more tooling-up takes place and more

and more plants come into production. However, if nothing

is done about the situation by expanding the capacity for
raw materials, machine tools and for munitions plants, the
rate will not increase fast enough to give us adequate se-

curity or Britain adequate help.
The present major back-log of orders and procurement

money can doubtless sustain and utilize further expansion

in productive capacity. It can sustain and utilize this
even more so if the productive capacity is expanded for the
double purpose of making faster use of the present appro-

priations for procurement, as well as those under H.R. 1776,
aimed at the major target of outstripping the Axis Powers
as quickly as possible.

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The Time Factor

There is need not only for having adequate appropriations for production and procurement, but constant emphasis

has to be placed on the time factor: We have to get the

best available defense articles as fast as it is humanly

possible to do so. In a practical way, it seems likely
that a better job can be gotten out of OPM and the Army and

Navy if they are told that we want a productive capacity of
60 thousand combat planes a year than if they are asked to

tell how many they can get produced per year. If OPM is told

in unequivocal terms what the aim is and that it is its job
to meet the aim, there is a reasonable probability that it
can be done. This is so particularly if enough funds are
available for expanding the sources of raw materials, machine

tools, and plant capacity. Over and above this, of course,
other changes in productive methods are available to the pro-

duction experts to get the stated order filled wi thin the

specified time. Thus, for example, it can be left to the
production and procurement offices to decide or to pass on

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such questions, in the case of aircraft, for example, as
to whether it would not speed up production to standardize
down the number of models in the different types of air-

craft so that we have one or two pursuit ships in approximately mass production, rather than X different types being
produced.

To carry this out and fully utilize existing personnel
and plants, it is conceivable that OPM and the Army and Navy

people will decide that the Curtiss P-40, for example, is
the best available pursuit ship and that Vultee, Bell,
Republic and the others who make pursuit ships should also

be manufacturing the P-40 instead of their own types. In
considering such questions as these, the production and procurement agencies can, of course, decide what effect such

standardization will have on the production of the engines
for the planes, etc.
The important thing seems to me to be not the precise

method by which the target can be met within the specified

time, hut the fact that a time limit is given to the production and procurement people. Like most humans, they are

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likely to adjust to a time limit and get. the job done
faster than they would if they were open-ended as to time.

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BUDGET MESSAGE OF THE PRESIDENT

To the Congress of the United States:

The request for appropriations to carry out H.R. 1776

for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1941, and for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1942, which I transmit herewith,

portrays the additional effort required for our national
defense and security. This request is the first major
step in carrying out the deep-felt want and need of our
people for the complete defense of our nation through

supplying effective material aid to those countries who

are valiantly resisting the forces of aggression.
Adequate total defense means more than just supplying

our own military and naval forces with equipment. It
means that the people of our land must have health, stamina,
and the overpowering desire to preserve their democratic

way of life. It also means a people with an awarennes of
the objectives and the methods of the dictators that are
loose in the world and an understanding of the major objectives which the Government must meet adequately and

efficiently to safeguard the nation.

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With long preparation, the insatiable aggressors
have proceeded in details One by one, they have swallowed

up country after country by the four now familiar steps
of truculence, treaty, treachery, and tyranny. Whether
the method was an endlessly repetitive protestation about

a past peace treaty, a ary for "lebeneraum", a promise of

no more ambitions, threats of force or force itself, the
aggressors have marched on, while the peoples of the

democracies have been slow to learn that the defense of
the democracies must be as total as the attack on then

is total. United in purpose and in each one's effective
contribution to that purpose, the democracies stand;

singly they fall.
Our people and the people of the democracies, as well
as the people in the very aggreasor countries themselves,

must be united in the major objective that the free and

peaceful way of life will prevail. They must be united
by this abiding faith, and they must show--as can be show-that a free people have the brains and the imagination,

the vision and the efficiency to outmatch the dietators,

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-3not only in faith alone, but also in the material sinews
of war. We can and we should develop an industrial capacity
to manufacture all of the material necessary for our defense
in the shortest possible time. We can and we should have

on hand, with the greatest possible speed, for ourselves

and for those who are giving battle to the dictators,
enough defense material finally to quiet the forces of
aggression, so that free men and women can again live and
work in peace and quietude.

The Objectives of Our

National Defense Program.

To secure the defense of our nation it is necessary

to keep in mind every possible situation. In effectively
defending our land we can not deal in certainties OF even

in probabilities alone. Nations do not survive against
aggressors on a majority vote of the chances. We have to

prepare ourselves not only against a fifty-one per cent
danger, but also against a one per cent risk.

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The Congress has already authorised large expenditures

for our military, naval and air forces, and we are already
on the way to total defense. When we start and are embarked on such a program, it behooves us to ask: Against
what are we defending?

We all know the answer to this question, if we keep
in mind that we are trying to safeguard ourselves against
all possible dangers. We are making ourselves strong
enough to meet the possible and potential danger of the
aggressor nations.

It is not enough to think of tactical units of infantry,
of a fleet of ships, or squadrons of aircraft. We must
be in a position as soon as possible to outstrip any com.

bination of our possible or potential enemies in both the
productive capacity for defense material and in the amount

of such material on hand. That is the smallest amount of

insurance that we are justified in carrying for the people
of this nation.
The needs for defense material in times as troubled
and as changing as the present increase rapidly. In

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safety. Two things we should keep as the states safety

factors: Our geographical situation; and the fighting
spirit and productive capacity of the nations which are
resisting the aggressors. Our major aia should be to
outstrip the aggressor nations in productive capacity and
defense articles on hand, without reference to what the
other democracies are doing and producing or without reference to the advantage which our geographical situation
may give us.

One of the reasons for our longstanding supremacy has
been that we have always had such margins of safety over
and above our own military and naval forces and equipment.

One of the reasons for the past supremacy of the British
Fleet has been that it was built and developed on the
assumption that it should be larger and better than the
fleets of any possible combination of enemies.

Reliance on another country for all purposes is not
always sound. To a large extent, Britain assumed that

France and its productive capacity would be available to it.

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But the French air bases and the French productive

capacity are no longer available to Britain. And, in
consequence, Britain does not, for example, have enough
long-range bombers. By the same token, France was certain

that its Maginet Line and its army were invulnerable. Ware
are not won on such certainties.
Conditions change so rapidly that only an adequate
productive capacity and an adequate number of defense

articles on hand can make it possible to adapt to such
changes. For this country an adequate productive capacity
and an adequate number of defense articles on hand means

enough of its own productive capacity and equipment to
outmatch any possible combination of enemies.
The Defense of Those Nations Whose

Defense is VIED to Our Defense.

The outposts of our defense today are in Great Britain,
in Greese, in China, and in those countries which are now
being threatened by the aggressors. The aggressers are our

potential enemies. We could, if we abandoned all the lessons

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of history and experience, withdraw our defenses from
Pearl Harbor, from Newfoundland, or even from Governor's

Island. But we have learned over a long period that,
as we move our defenses outward, we lessen the dangers

of attack on San Francisco, Boston or New York.
We can have outposts of defense without owning land

or without military or neval bases. We can have out-

posts of defense that do not require the utilization of our
armed forces in combat. We have such outposts of defense

today in the battle spots of the world.
Every gun, and every ship, and every tank, and every
bomber we make available to the democracies tends to weaken

OF defeat our potential enemies. If Britain, and China,
and Greece prevail--and we hope they will--our blood and

treasure will not have to be spent in combat. If they
fail, we shall have to continue spending billions upon
billions more to safeguard our security and way of life,
and no man can say that our youth will then not have to
fight for what we all treasure so much.
The heart of H.R. 1776 is defense equipment--equipment

which remains under the control of the United States

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Government until it is ready for disposition. As long
as the fighting democracies hold out, each gun, each plane,
and each ship that we dispose of to them is worth more to

us in their hands than it would now be in our own. Not
only does this equipment in the hands of the resisting
democracies weaken our potential enemies, but we gain precious

time within which to develop our productive capacity to the
point where we can meet every possible contingency. Should

the sad day arrive when any one or all of these countries
resisting aggression go down, the defense articles which
we are producing, and our capacity to produce them, will
be the most valuable assets that a free people can have.
Defense Expenditures and
Our Defense Program.

In my budget message to the Congress of January 3, 1941,

I summarised the progrem for the fiscal years 1940, 1941,

and 1942. The present request is, of course, an additional
part of this same program.

If we do not increase our present rate of actual expenditures for defense, we can not be completely sure that

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we will be ready in time to meet all possible threats to
our national security.
From July 1, 1940 through March 4, 1941, we expended,
through the War and Navy Departments, the amount of

$2,947,518,849 for national defense purposes. As was
stated in my budget message of January 3, 1941, appropriations, authorisations, and recommendations have already

been made for a total of $28,480,000,000 for the defense
program.

The daily expenditures for defense have been steadily

mounting and are reflected in the steadily increasing numbers of guns, ships, tanks, and airplanes that are coming

off the lines. However, we are not getting fast enough for
all possible needs the essential equipment which we require.

One of the greatest single factors which affects the
rate at which we get this essential equipment is our capacity
to produce. To make guns, and ships, and airplanes, we need
aluminum and tin, machine tools, and machinery, plant space,
and, above all, trained men and women. We have rapidly ex-

pended our capacity for all of these things. But if we want

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to be assured of having finished defense equipment in time,

we must still more greatly expand our productive capacity

for raw materials, for machine tools, for plant space, and
for training personnel. We must do this not only to be sure
that the moneys appropriated and requested are translated

into equipment in time, but also to make sure that the funds
granted by the Congress pursuant to this request are put

to the most effective use with the greatest possible speed.
That is the reason that so comparatively large a portion
of the present request is for the expansion of such produetive capacity.
The Benefits to the United States

and the Present Request.

The present request is admittedly large. But, the
people of France and the people of those other countries
that have been swallowed up might once have felt that their
defense expenditures were large. Now, they doubtless feel
that they are as nothing compared to the yoke of the aggressor.

If the life of our nation is worth the blood of our people

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in the case of attack, it is certainly worth the premiums

required to be paid to forestall the possibility of such
attack.

The appropriations which Congress grants in response

to this request will have many advantages. The defense

articles procured with such appropriations will be used to
defeat or weaken our possible enemies. They will give us
irreplaceable time within which to develop our productive
capacity to the point where we can obtain and replenish the

materials of war faster and better than our potential enemies.
They will put us into a position where we can safeguard ourselves against any possible combination of enemies.

To us as a people and as a nation, these benefits can

not be appraised in dollars--they are of a value far beyond
money or other similar tangible considerations. However,

the framework of H.R. 1776 and the administration of it will
doubtless result in many additional benefits of a monetary
and similar character. Even though we deal in the most
generous manner--as we expect to--with the heroic peoples

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who are fighting in our own defense as well as their own,

we can still receive many such additional benefits. We
do not need the rules of the market place to receive benefits freely and generously offered by the democracies in

return for a similar generosity on our part. I an sure
that when this Government considers with the governments

which we are to assist under H.R. 1776 the whole range of
Paw materials, trade concessions, military and naval bases,

and other property or consideration which they will gladly

offer to transfer to us, we will find that we have reaped,
in security and in more tangible benefits, more than we
have sown. The democracies can and will show that they can

stand together in time of dire need to their overlasting
mutual benefit. In this way, they shall always keep their
banners flying.

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February 27, 1941
'o:

E. H. Foley, Jr.

From: 0. S. Cox
Subject: Financial Terms of Disposition to Britain Under H.R. 1776.

It may be desirable to start giving consideration
now to some of the following possible financial arrangements with Britain under the Lend-Lease Bill: 1) A Master
Agreement of Trusteeship; 2) Types of Special Agreements

to be used either in connection with or independently of
a master agreement.
(1)

Master Agreement

The Master Agreement might provide the following:
a) The United States Government to be

the trustee of all of the property of the
British Government and its nationals in the
Western Hemisphere. It may also be desirable

to include the British Fleet in this trusteeship.
b) The management, etc. of this property

is to continue as it now is, or as determined
by the now owners.

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option or power to require the owners to
liquidate not more than, for example 2%

or X% of the property of British nationals
in the United States or in the Western
Hemisphere within a year.

a) The United States is to have the
option or power to require the payment
over of not more than 5% or X% of the

net income of the property each year to

be credited against the dollar value of
defense articles disposed of to Britain
under H.R. 1776.

e) Any consideration turned over to

the United States by Britain, such as tin,
rubber, rare books of private dealers, etc.,

is to be credited against the value of defense articles transferred to Britain.

f) If Britain is successful, as defined in the trustee indenture, the United

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States Government is to have the discre-

tion to release the trusteeship immediately,
or after a certain percentage of the value

of the defense articles transferred to

Britain is paid for out of part of the net
income of the property.

g) If Britain is defeated, as defined
in the trust indenture, the United States
Government is to have the option: To take

the full title to the property; to hold it
until the debt for defense articles is liquidated; to return it to its owners or to
dispose of it in any way that the United
States Government sees fit.

h) It may also be desirable to get

Britain to agree that it will guarantee the
Monroe Doctrine by helping to protect the
Western Hemisphere from European aggression.

The foregoing are only some of the possible provisions
that might be included in the Master Agreement.

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In the drafting of the Master Agreement, great

care should doubtless be exercised in seeing to it that
the British are not shylocked, and at the same time to
give the United States Government a degree of control

which will be of benefit to the United States. Such
a degree of control would doubtless be of great effect
in restraining the appeasers, because of the hope that
by not appeasing they could get their property back.
Such a degree of control would also probably be of much

more advantage in determining the post-war situation in

Europe in relationship to our own interests than any
peace treaty. Normally, the people who own property

of this kind are the people who have a good bit of political power, and, if the discretion were in the United
States Government to turn back or not to turn back the
trusteeship, our Government could well have a decisive

influence on the post-war situation.
From the standpoint of public opinion, the Master
Agreement would also seem to have advantages. The public
has assumed that most of the equipment to be disposed of

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under the Lend-Lease Bill would be given away. If shortly

after the enactment of the Bill, the public finds that
not only is there a Master Agreement providing security

but the means of paying for the defense articles, it is
likely to be more receptive to the appropriation requests
and the other steps that have to be taken under the Bill.
Over and above her dollar exchange requirements,

there are many things that the British have which could
be used as credits against defense articles disposed of,
and charged up under the Master Agreement. For example,

if the British Government took over, let us say, 10% of

the rare books that private collectors living in the
British Isles own, and turned them over as part consideration, so that they might be owned by the Government through

the Library of Congress, we would get a tangible benefit
and, at the same time, we would not be pressing British

nationals too hard. There are, of course, many other

articles of benefit to us which could be acquired without
disrupting our domestic markets or exerting too much

pressure on British nationals. These articles could be
taken over under the terms of the Master Agreement and

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a credit given to the British Government as against

defense articles transferred to it. In other words, each

particular disposition of defense articles to Britain
would not require either a determination on or provision

for financial conditions. The financial transactions
could be handled under the Master Agreement from time

to time, and as the occasion arose.

Of course, a trusteeship of the British Fleet would
not mean very much, except that it gives the color of
legal right to exercise our sovereign powers if and when

we can put our hands on the British Fleet, in case Britain
is defeated or is operating under a Moseley or other type
of Government.

Similarly, a provision in the trust indenture, such
as a requirement that Britain guarantee the Monroe Doctrine

could only be effectively enforced if Britain is successful, and we have strings on the property of her nationals.
The technical, legal job of working out the Master
Agreement, if it were decided as a matter of policy to
have one, would not be insuperable. Thus, in some cases,

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in addition to the trusteeship indenture, it might be
desirable to hold the stock certificates in American
companies, or the evidence of ownership in direct investments, as part of the trust agreement.
(2)

Special Agreements

It is possible, of course, to have special agreements
which are either an integral part of the Master Agreement

or part of it.
As a part of the Master Agreement, special agreements

on such raw materials as tin, rubber, nickel, lead, etc.
could be worked out, providing that, at the United States
Government's option, it could require deliveries of such
commodities over a long term or period. The dollar value
of the delivered commodities could, of course, be charged

against the account of the British for defense articles
previously transferred to them under H.R. 1776. It should
be noted in this connection that, if the United States

is interested in breaking up the international cartels
in tin, rubber, etc., it would probably have the power to
do so under the Lend-Lease Bill.

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Agreement and to handle each disposition of defense

articles by itself. Both from the standpoint of public
policy and administration, this would not seem to be as
desirable as the Master Agreement method.

In giving consideration to the special agreement

method, either as an interrelated part of the Master
Agreement or as separate from it, it might be desirable

to make a survey of all the strategic, critical and
essential raw materials which are produced in the British

Empire, as well as of the exports of the British Empire.
In this way, specific articles and commodities can be
selected for inclusion in the benefits to be received
by the United States without disrupting our own domestic

production or markets, and, at the same time, without
pinching Britain too much.

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STRATEGIC, CRITICAL AND ESSENTIAL MATERIALS

The basic idea behind our building up stock piles is
that we should have enough strategic, critical and essential

materials available for military and naval needs in case of
war or other blockage of the sources of supply.
It has been evident for some time that the estimates

of strategic, critical and essential materials needed for
both current production needs and stock-pile purposes have

been incorrect. The present inadequacy of tungsten for cur-

rent needs and the necessity for dipping into the stock piles
illustrate the problem.
Several fundamental considerations were not give ade-

quate weight in estimating our stock-pile needs. It is evident from the requests for appropriations for these purposes
that they were based primarily on the existing Army and Navy
requests for appropriations or contemplated appropriations.

The amount of nickel or tungsten, for example, that is re-

quired for stock-pile purposes is in large part also a
function of what is needed for current production purposes.

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It goes without saying that the amount of nickel and tungsten
required when the Army and Navy appropriations are $2 billions

is much less than when their appropriations are $10 billions.

Also, the civilian uses of such materials as nickel, tungsten,
magnesium, vanadium, etc., are affected as the national income

increases as the result of additional defense spending. When

the national income is $40 billions, the consumption of nickel,

tungsten, and the other strategic materials is of a different
magnitude than when the national income is $75 billions or
$100 billions.
It seems quite evident that a resurvey should be made of

our needs for strategic, critical and essential materials for
current purposes, as well as for stock-pile purposes, and that
the necessary appropriations therefor should be requested. In
estimating the needs, the fact that there have already been
more than seventeen appropriation acts for the Army and Navy

alone in the fiscal year 1941 should be kept in mind in trying

to predict what further appropriations there are likely to be
for this year and the fiscal year 1942. In addition, a margin
of safety factor should doubtless also be added, not only to

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account for errors in prediction, but also to include the assistance which may be given to Britain, etc., under the LendLease bill.

One of the great difficulties with the handling of
strategic, critical and essential materials for both current
and stock-pile purposes is that the needs have not been anticipated far enough in advance. Shortages of these materials

may create critical bottlenecks in production and thus mate-

rially slow it up. Also, dipping into the stock piles is
dangerous because in the event of war or blockage of trans-

portation in the Far East we might be in an exceedingly vulnerable position.
The development of new sources of supply of strategic

and critical raw materials is not carried out in normal times
in those cases where a particular source of supply is more

uneconomical than another. This is illustrated in the case
of Bolivian tin. Up to now it has seemed desirable to get
most of our tin from the Far East but recently it has become

evident that there are other considerations besides price in
the defense program which would warrant the further develop-

ment of Bolivian tin mines as well as the construction in

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particular kind of tin ore that comes from Bolivia. The
case of tin, however, is only illustrative. The same problem in varying degree applies to other materials such as
mercury, tungsten, zinc, antimony, platinum, vanadium, etc.
It happens that the Western Hemisphere has most of these

raw materials, In meeting our defense in stock-pile needs,

as well as in building up our good neighbor policy, there is
probably no other single course that would be more effective
than to expand the development and purchases of strategic,

critical and essential materials from the American republics
on a much larger scale than has heretofore been done or contemplated.

It should also be kept in mind that in connection with
the financing terms to be worked out with Britain under the

Lend-Lease bill, it is conceivable that some of the British
assets in South America and Mexico can be used in part to pay

for the development and purchase of such strategic, critical
and essential materials.

One other thought should also be kept in mind in this
connection. If Germany should win, there is of course some

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chance that by reason of their barter system, our gold may

not be quite as useful as it will be if Britain wins. One
way to minimize this possible risk is to shift the trade
balances in favor of the Western Hemisphere countries as much

as possible and at the same time have on hand large supplies

of non-deteriorating strategic, critical and essential materials, In terms of the dollars spent, such raw materials
would result in less of a loss to us than any depreciation
in the value of gold.
Larger appropriations for the development and procure-

ment of strategic, critical and essential materials could
probably be obtained more easily than for anything else except possibly finished Army and Navy equipment.

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KWANG PU CHEN

Shanghai Commercial & Savings Bank,
Chungking, China.
March 8, 1941.

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C., U. S. A.
Dear Mr. Morgenthau:

When this letter reaches you, Dr. Lauchlin B. Currie
must have arrived in Washington for some days. I understand he carried with him Dr. H. H. Kung's letter advising
you of my appointment as the chairman of the new stabilization committee. While I deeply appreciate your kind
suggestion of my appointment, I cannot but realize the
heavy responsibility that has fallen on my shoulders and

the difficult task that is confronting me.

You will no doubt be informed by Dr. Currie of the
divergent views prevalent on the question of currency
stabilization. I am sure I shall have to depend much on
my good collaborator whom your government will soon name

as the American member on the committee. With his able

assistance, I hope I may yet be able to carry out the
terms and conditions of the loan agreement now under

discussion and in that way to justify your confidence

placed in me.

Owing to my prolonged absence from China during the

past years, I have somewhat got out of touch with the

detail workings of our stabilization fund. I am therefore

now making studies to acquaint myself with its operations
in the past, and planning to take a short trip to Hongkong

to confer with the people in charge thereof. If time

permits, I shall visit Lashio, Bhamo and Rangoon again to
complete my last year's tour of inspection which was
unfortunately interrupted by my illness.
With best personal regards,
Sincerely yours,

when

KPC:W

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 8, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Cochran

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£37,000
Purchased from commercial concerns £ 7.000

Open market sterling remained at 4.03-1/2, and there were no reported

transactions.

In New York, the closing rates for the foreign currencies listed below were

as follows:

Canadian dollar
Swiss franc (commercial)

Swedish krona
Reichsmark

14-7/8% discount
.2323

.2384-1/2

Brazilian milreis (free)

.4005
.0505
.2300
.0505

Mexican peso

.2066

Cuban peso

6-3/4% discount

Lira

Argentine peso (free)

In Shanghai, the yuan in terms of our currency was unchanged at 5-1/24.
Sterling was 2$ lower at 3.91.
There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.
No new gold engagements were reported.

A Bombay gold price equivalent to $35.15 was received by one of the New York
banks this morning. This was 5$ lower than the quotation of March 6.

pml

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March 8, 1941

I wish to be reminded, Monday, to speak to Sullivan

and tell him about the discussion at Cabinet. The President
wants two tax bills right away.
Taken care

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March 8, 1941

TO:

MR. BELL

FROM:

THE SECRETARY

I don't remember whether I told you or not,
but when I saw the President Thursday, he approved oar
plan for the new 3 defense savings bonds.

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March 8, 1941

TO:

FRIE

MRS. KLOTZ
THE SECRETARY

Please draw Arthur Purvis' attention to the
article in today's NewYork Times by John MacCormic, on

page 5, and tell him particularly to read the last paragraph. Tell him I do not know the source of the story
but I am trying to find out.

(Taken care of 3/8/41)

COLLATERAL PLAN

WAITS ON AID BILL
Washington Would Hold Brit,
ain's Direct Investments Here

Against Loan of Munitions
DISPOSAL NOW DIFFICULT
Meanwhile Sale of Holdings in
Liquid American Securities
Is Proceeding Steadily
By JOHN MacCORMAC
Special to THE New YORK TIMES

WASHINGTON, March 7-One
plan for aid to Great Britain when

the lease-lend bill becomes law calls

for the handing over of Britain's
direct Investments in this country
to the United States Government as

collateral against the defense materials furnished to her

The sale of the $615,000,000 of
liquid American securities which
the British still had on Jan. 1 has

been proceeding steadily, the 203.127 shares of United States Steel
stock were sold this week for $11.
500,000 being the largest transaction to date.

, The disposal of the direct investments, such as American branches
I British firms. is a more difficult
matter Although negotiations have

been carried on for weeks with

groups of investment bankers, no
conclusion has yet been reached.
Some financial and administrative
opinion holds that it would not pay
the United States, in the last analy
sis, to strip Britain of all her holdings here since she is in war or
peace the best customer of the
United States.

As an alternative It has been suggested that she put up her direct
Investments as collateral for their
estimated worth of munitions and
equipment. Then, if after the war.
Britain were able to repay in some
other form, such as the return of
an equal value of munitions. ships
or such commodities as tin and rub-

ber. she could be allowed to keep
her direct investments here as a

future source of American exchange. It is understood that the
Treasury favors this solution
The first asset of which Britain
will dispose under the lease-land
bill is her Investment in United
States airplane and munitions
plants Money was lent by Britain
and France to American manufac
turers to build or enlarge plants for

the purpose of filling Allied war
orders and France's obligations
were taken over b ythe British
when France collapsed.

The British Purchasing Commis

sion has been negotiating for some

time with Jesse Jones, Federal
Loan Administrator, for their dis
posal and there has been some dif-

ference of opinion regarding the
value to be put on the machine
tools Installed in the plants to be
turned in.

From some quarters has come the

suggestion that not only Britain's
direct investments in the United
States but her investments in South

America should be posted as collateral for aid under the lease-lend

bill. The Idea is not to strip Britsphere but to insure that in case
of her defeat they would not fall

ain of all her holdings in this hemiinto Germany's hands.

-

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GRAY

Buenos Aires

GHV

Dated March 8. 1941

Rec'd. 2:50 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

182, March 8, 1 P.M.

The press reports that an Argentine credit to
Spain for purchases of agricultural products chiefly
wheat and meat is nearing completion. It is reported
that Spanish interest in a local power company,
Compania Argentina de Electricidad, is involved as
security for the loan. Immediate shipments of wheat
and meat to a value of 35,000,000 to 40,000,000 pesos

is contexplated according to the report.
ARMOUR
LMS

ehtcopy

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RESTRICTED

M.I.D., W.D.

G-2/2657-220
No. 334

March 8, 1941
12:00 M
SITUATION REPORT

I. Western Theater of War.

Air: German. Limited offensive activity directed
primarily against shipping.

British. No offensive operations.
II.

Balkan Theater of War.

Ground: Bulgaria. No change.
Albania. The Greeks report successful

operations in the central sector with air force cooperation.

III.

Mediterranean and African Theaters of War.

Ground: Abyssinia (Ethiopia). British patrols on
the Gondar Road are operating east of Amanit.

The Italians are withdrawing from Burye
which is about 165 miles northwest of Addis Ababa.

Air: No operations reported.

Note: This military situation report is issued by the Military Intelligence Division, General Staff. In view of the occasional inclusion of political information and of opinion it is classified as

Restricted.

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114

of Code Medicare
Received as the Mar

as Biss, Much 8,

Losion, filed 13:35, March 8, 1941.

1. a Friday, Murch 7. beneficiary of the British
Coastal Commond earried out a said - a - navel deetyard at Holder

and sent a - one best to the bottom off the Heals of Hollows. In
addition, Constal Commond bumbers secret direct hite on bangare during -

attack on the airfield as Ochovaburg (8). During the proceding night no
British planos were over the Continent because of adverse weather could.
tions.

2. During the night of March 7-8 - because enried out
attachs - Figmouth, Falmouth, and Orteriness. - of the Games bombers

created but no interceptions were mis by the British fighters that not
the attachers. During the proceding day state were planted is the North

Sea off the mouth of the Ruber River w - aircraft. - air
attache were carried out ognises British east coast assessment shipping and

signing stefields in Linecinshire, Herfelt and Baffolk. Germa plano

-

leases were two confirmed and - damaged. There were as losses of British
please and no severe damage to military installations.

3. Activities of the British in Middle Eastern theaters were as
follows: Italian artillery positions in the losst-Toyoleni agen of Albenta
were been by British please from Greese; British troops have occupied
Fester, Italian Somaliland, about 210 siles north of Magadinate and have

put the sixfield at this city in a unble conditions in the Britroom theater
the British have captured positions 12 miles north of Earns and Reyel Air

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115

Force planos bombed motor transports and millarys in the Assare-Heren area.

4. On March 7 Britter planes interespect and drove off a formation
of 14 German please attempting to attack Malta. The British destroyed two of
the German attachers. During the proceding night Malta was reided by 12

Gerasa please but there was no damage to military installations. It has now
been determined that the Common used 40 fighter please and 60 bombows in the

attack on Malta on March 5. All of the British please at the Mal For airfield,
which was severely damaged during this vaid, were put out of operation tenpenerily and four of the planes on the ground were complete lessee. Cas of

the 11 British fighters which were we to intereept this attack was shot
down but German lessee as a result of the activities of those British fighters
were eight confirmed and four damaged. In addition, also German please were
shot down and four others were damaged by embiaireraft fire.

5. While is is estimated by the War Office that 20 German divisions

were along the border, is is thought that only eight of
those divisions were actually - Bulgerian soil by March 5. It is believed
that the poor condition and congestion of highways and railroads was reapon-

sible for this. On March 3 the first Nest recommissance white arrived at the
Greek barler. On March 5 the main bodies of the German waite began arriving

in the visinity of Petrich in the Stress River valley and in the Jumbeli-

Silver region. In this latter area is is believed that there is a considerable
concentration of Gorean heavy toulds. Resignature of the Bulgerian foress is

believed to be as Stare Sagars. The distribution of divisions of the Bulgerion
Anny is as follows: Gas division is facing the southern Debraja frontier,
aime are on the Turkish bender, five are fasing Tageolavia, and year are the Mascionism border.

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116

6. a March T a British - - in a - was has w a terroris - - a the - way a British teather /
ing have shares - after having bose Dember.
Distributions
Secretary of Year

Aest. Secretary of Mar

Chief of Staff

State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Mar Plans Division

office of Naval Intelligence

Air George
6-3

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CONFIDENTIAL
Paraphrase of Code Radiogram
Received at the War Department

as 7:35. Marah 9, 1941.

Tenton, films 15:35, March 9, 1941.

1. On Saturday, March 8, the harbor facilities at Holder
were bembed with unobserved results w British planes. The Germa
bembers were shot down by British fighter planes that earried out

patrels along the English Channel. During the night of March 7-8
no British planes were over the Continent because of adverse weather
conditions.

2. During the night of March 8-9 the German Air Force
made widely separated raids on targets in the southeasters counties

and in Morfelk and Suffolk. A fairly severe vaid was made against
Portamouth. The extent of damages from these raids has not been
determined. The Germans carried out as extremely severe attack on

London. The many fires that were started were quickly pub out but
there were a number of civilian casualties and considerable damage

to private property from high explosive bumbs. During daylight
hours of March 8 single German planes were pletted over Almrisk,
Cardiff, Fife Ness, Portamouth, the Orkney Islands, and the Thomas

Naturary. Six German planes were active against targete in Lincoln-

shire, Nerfelk and Suffelk.

s. British planes based in Greese supported the open
tions of Greek land forces in the Albenian theater. Highways in

Mritres and the Failway were attached by British bombers.

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118

4. On Marah 8 naval stores as Malta were damaged daring an attack on the Island w 15 German planes.
5.

News stories indicating that German forces in south-

GFA Italy total 500,000 cannot be confirmed in Sendon and 18 is

thought by the British War Office that these stories come from the
Germans. According to the most recent British estimates there are

only two small German arnored divisions in Tripoli at the present
time. On March 5 British armored motor vehicles contacted German

assored ears from reconneissance units in the Lilyan theater just
west of Aghelia. The German units withdrew to the west.

6. It is believed that the partial mobilisation of the
Tugoslav Army which is now going on will result in a total strength
of 600,000 by March 10.
7.

Sources thought to be reliable have informed the

British War Office that Kohlak Bay which is on the Gulf of Sism,
140 miles south of Banglook, will be awarded to the Japanese as a

partial payment for their efforts at mediation. Facilities are
available ea this boy and in the surrounding area for the operation
of both land and sumplanes.
8.

On March 8 a total of 33 German divisions were in

or near Bulgaria. Twelve of these divisions were just across the
frontier in Rumania and the other 20 are actually in Dulgaria.

9. The possibility of an attack by the Germans on the
Faree Islands or on Ieeland is indicated by Norvegian reports of

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orders issued by the German and of preparations being made w
them.

SCANLON

Distributions
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Aast. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff

War Plans Division

Office of Naval Intelligence
Intelligence Branch
Air Gorps
G-S

CONFIDENTIAL

119

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Miss Chancey
there a copy for your
film went GHH. the original an 3/9/41

A.H. Ball

MR. COX

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BUDGET MESSAGE OF THE PRESIDENT

To the Congress of the United States:

The request for appropriations to carry out H.R. 1776

for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1941, and for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1942, which I transmit herewith,

portrays the additional effort required for our national
defense and security. This request is the first major
step in carrying out the deep-felt want and need of our
people for the complete defense of our nation through

supplying effective material aid to those countries who

are valiantly resisting the forces of aggression.
Adequate total defense means more than just supplying

our own military and naval forces with equipment. It
means that the people of our land must have health, stamina,
and the overpowering desire to preserve their democratic

way of life. It also means a people with an awareness of
the objectives and the methods of the dietators that are
loose in the world and an understanding of the major objectives which the Government must meet adequately and

efficiently to safeguard the nation.

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-2With long preparation, the insatiable aggressors
have proceeded in detail: One by one, they have swallowed

up country after country by the four now familiar steps
of trueulence, treaty, treachery, and tyranny. Whether
the method was an endlessly repetitive protestation about

a past peace treaty, a ery for "lebensraun", a promise of

no more ambitions, threats of force or force itself, the
aggressors have marched on, while the peoples of the
democracies have been slow to learn that the defense of

the democracies must be as total as the attack on them

is total. United in purpose and in each one's effective
contribution to that purpose, the democracies stand;

singly they fall.
Our people and the people of the democracies, as well
as the people in the very aggressor countries themselves,

must be united in the major objective that the free and

peaceful way of life will prevail. They must be united
by this abiding faith, and they must show--as can be show-that a free people have the brains and the imagination,

the vision and the efficiency to outmatch the dietators,

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not only in faith alone, but also in the material sinews
of war. We can and we should develop an industrial capacity

to manufacture all of the material necessary for our defense
in the shortest possible time. We can and we should have

on hand, with the greatest possible speed, for ourselves

and for those who are giving battle to the dietators,
enough defense material finally to quiet the forces of
aggression, so that free men and women can again live and
work in peace and quietude.

The Objectives of Our
National Defense Program.

To secure the defense of our nation it is necessary

to keep in mind every possible situation. In effectively
defending our land we can not deal in certainties or even

in probabilities alone. Nations do not survive against
aggressors on a majority vote of the chances. We have to

prepare ourselves not only against a fifty-one per cent
danger, but also against a one per cent risk.

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The Congress has already authorised large expenditures

for our military, naval and air forces, and we are already
on the way to total defense. When we start and are barked on such a program, it behooves us to ask: Against
what are we defending?

We all know the answer to this question, if we keep
in mind that we are trying to safeguard ourselves against
all possible dangers. We are making ourselves strong
enough to meet the possible and potential danger of the
aggressor nations.

It is not enough to think of tactical units of infantry.
of a floot of ships, or squadrons of aircraft. We must
be in a position as soon as possible to outstrip any com
bination of our possible or potential enemies in both the
productive capacity for defense material and in the amount

of such material on hand. That is the smallest amount of

insurance that we are justified in carrying for the people
of this nation.
The needs for defense material in times as troubled
and as changing as the present increase rapidly. In

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forecasting our needs, it is wise to allow a margin of
safety. Two things we should keep as the minimum safety

factors: Our geographical situations and the fighting
spirit and productive capacity of the nations which are
resisting the aggressors. Our major ain should be to
outstrip the aggressor nations in productive capacity and
defense articles on hand, without reference to what the
other democracies are doing and producing or without reference to the advantage which our geographical situation
may give us.

One of the reasons for our longstanding supremacy has
been that we have always had such margins of safety over
and above our own military and naval forces and equipment.

One of the reasons for the past supremacy of the British
Fleet has been that it was built and developed on the
assumption that it should be larger and better than the
fleets of any possible combination of enemies.

Reliance on another country for all purposes is not
always sound. To a large extent, Britain assumed that

France and its productive capacity would be available to it,

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But the French air bases and the French productive

capacity are no longer available to Britain. And, in
consequence, Britain does not, for example, have enough
long-range bombers. By the same token, France was certain

that its Maginet Line and its army were invulnerable. Wars
are not won on such certainties.
Conditions change so rapidly that only an adequate
productive capacity and an adequate number of defense

articles on hand can make it possible to adapt to such
changes. For this country an adequate productive capacity
and an adequate number of defense articles on hand means

enough of its own productive capacity and equipment to
outmatch any possible combination of enemies.
The Defense of Those Nations Whose

Defense is Vital to Our Defense.

The outposts of our defense today are in Great Britain,
in Greece, in China, and in those countries which are now
being threatened by the aggressors. The aggressers are our

potential enemies. We could, if we abandoned all the lessons

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of history and experience, withdraw our defenses from
Pearl Harbor, from Newfoundland, or even from Governor's

Island. But we have learned over a long period that,
as we move our defenses outward, we lessen the dangers
of attack on San Francisco, Boston OF New York.

We can have outposts of defense without owning land

OF without military or nevel bases. We can have out-

posts of defense that do not require the utilization of our
armed forces in combat. We have such outposts of defense

today in the battle spots of the world.
Every gun, and every ship, and every tank, and every
bomber we make available to the democracies tends to weaken

OF defeat our potential enemies. If Britain, and China,
and Greese prevail--and we hope they will--our blood and

treasure will not have to be spent in combat. If they
fail, we shall have to continue spending billions upon
billions more to safeguard our security and way of life,
and no man can say that our youth will then not have to
fight for what we all treasure se much.
The heart of H.R. 1776 is defense equipment--equipment

which remains under the control of the United States

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Government until it is ready for disposition. As long
as the fighting democracies hold out, each gun, each plane,
and each ship that we dispose of to them is worth more to

us in their hands than it would now be in our own. Not
only does this equipment in the hands of the resisting
democracies weaken our potential enemies, but we gain precious

time within which to develop our productive capacity to the
point where we can meet every possible contingency. Should

the sad day arrive when any one or all of these countries
resisting aggression go down, the defense articles which
we are producing, and our capacity to produce them, will
be the most valuable assets that a free people can have.
Defense Expenditures and
Our Defense Program.

In my budget message to the Congress of January 8, 1941,

I summarised the program for the fiscal years 1940, 1941,

and 1942. The present request is, of course, an additional
part of this same program.

If we do not increase our present rate of actual expenditures for defense, we can not be completely sure that

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we will be ready in time to meet all possible threats to
our national security.
From July 1, 1940 through March 4, 1941, we expended,
through the War and Navy Departments, the amount of

$2,947,518,849 for national defense purposes. As was
stated in my budget message of January 3, 1941, appropriations, authorisations, and recommendations have already

been made for a total of $28,480,000,000 for the defense
program.

The daily expenditures for defense have been steadily

mounting and are reflected in the steadily increasing numbers of guns, ships, tanks, and airplanes that are coming

off the lines. However, we are not getting fast enough for
all possible needs the essential equipment which we require.

One of the greatest single factors chich affects the
rate at which we get this essential equipment is our capacity
to produce. To make guns, and ships, and airplanes, we need
alusinus and tin, machine tools, and machinery, plant space,
and, above all, trained men and women. We have rapidly ex-

pended our capacity for all of these things. But if me want

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to be assured of having finished defense equipment in time,
we must still more greatly expand our productive capacity

for raw materials, for machine tools, for plant space, and
for training personnel. We must do this not only to be sure
that the moneys appropriated and requested are translated

into equipment in time, but also to make sure that the funds
granted by the Congress pursuant to this request are put

to the most effective use with the greatest possible speed.
That is the reason that so comparatively large approtion

of the present request is for the expansion of such produetive capacity.

The Benefits to the United States

and the Present Request.

The present request is admittedly large. But, the
people of France and the people of those other countries
that have been swallowed up might once have felt that their
defense expenditures were large. Now, they doubtless feel
that they are as nothing compared to the yoke of the aggressor.

If the life of our nation is worth the blood of our people

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in the case of attack, it is certainly worth the premiums

required to be paid to forestall the possibility of such
attack.

The appropriations which Congress grants in response

to this request will have many advantages. The defense

articles procured with such appropriations will be used to
defeat or weaken our possible enemies. They will give us

irreplaceable time within which to develop our productive
capacity to the point where we can obtain and replenish the

materials of war faster and better than our potential enemies.
They will put us into a position where we can safeguard ourselves against any possible combination of enemies.

To us as a people and as a nation, these benefits can

not be appraised in dollars--they are of a value far beyond
money or other similar tangible considerations. However,

the fresework of H.R. 1776 and the administration of it will
doubtless result in many additional benefits of a monetary
and similar character. Even though we deal in the most
generous manner-us we expect to--with the heroic peoples

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who are fighting in our own defense as well as their own,
we can still receive many such additional benefits. We
do not need the rules of the market place to receive benefits freely and genereusly offered by the democracies in

return for a similar generosity on our part. I am sure
that when this Government considers with the governments

which we are to assist under H.R. 1776 the whole range of
raw materials, trade concessions, military and naval bases,

and other property or consideration which they will gladly

offer to transfer to us, we will find that we have reaped,
in security and in more tangible benefits, more than we
have sown. The democracies can and will show that they can

stand together in time of dire need to their overlasting

mutual benefit. In this way, they shall always keep their
banners flying.

OSC:djb:aja
3-9-41

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EXHIBIT A
THE BRITISH PIRCHASING MISSION

SIMMART OF CONTRACTS or $1,000,000. OR OTER

Values is U. 5. Dollars

As as February 15, 1941

Total Yalas of Contract
Cleanification

Capital

Product

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Value
Total

Deliveries

Freedb Advances

Capital

Product

Advences Substanding to Gredit of
Total

Capital

Value of
Advances
Product

Dadelivered
Total

Balance
of

Material

French

-

1,487,265.00

Ordnance Assignent
Meter Tehislee
Metals

Petroleum Products

Total Noonkireraft Products

1,487,265.00

treat Total

1,487,265.00

17,739,496.73
21,585,825.11
1,419,264.00
7,426,000.00
79,912,863.96

539,372,435.25

21,585,825.53

1,419,264.00
7,426,000.00
51.400.148.96

540,859,700.25

7,220,142.99
19,650,575.76

45,606,586.20

45,606,586.20

-

1,038,000.00

American

24.537.961.77

3,966,354.70
946,000.00
1,389,560.00
827,565.00

3,966,354.70
946,000.00
1,803,626.25

14,066.25

1,285,383.34
52,694,063.88

216,243,873.06

414,066.25

627,565.00

4974.537.08
96,306,877.80

-

161,549,809.18

26,704,297.72
5,038,000.00
19,226,761.71

50,510,872.33
40,821,448.39

1,073,190.75

-

459,459,551.27

26,704,297.72

20,899,711.86
18,978,557.63
5,730,316.63

123,703.50

766,222.90

50,510,872.33
40.821.468.39

4974.537.00
96,306,877.50

144,507,496.22
132,049,011.24
21.353.234.63

73,096,912.05

72,248,985.24
10,648,380.90

297,909,742.00

155,994,278.19

-

-

total Airways Products
Bachine Tools

20,899,711.86
18,978,557.62
5,730,316.63

-

459,459,551.27

-

Airplane Accessories

-

-

61,465,952.79
87,866,947.62
12,196,908.99

-

205,973,449.01
219,935,958.66
33.550.143.78

-

205.973.449.02
219,935,958.66
33,550,143.58

-

AirCrames

Airplane Enginee

2,166,335.09
1,038,000.00

(er)1,800,018.75

1,196,902.25
766,222.90

10.519.353.74

409.000.00

9,006,090.24
341,451.85

1,935,249.75
133,880.64
7,426,000.00

7,426,000.00

133,680.66

7,129,479.70

7,543,545.95

1,073,198.75

889,926.40

1,963,125.35

27,218,820.10

19,199,414.00

$2,738,065.60

53,152,132.05

1,073,198.75

97,196,804.20

96,270,002.95

325,128,562.19

175,193,692.19

British
Airplane Enginee
Airplane Accomercias

Total Aircraft Protects

612,000.00
$4,078,471.00

659.184.914.70

2,140,000.00

46,947,446.96

56,830,471.00

Machine Tools

Exalesives Propellante

Ammunition

Ordersos Equipment

Tasks Tank Equipment

Motor Tehicles
Ico-Farmons Metals

Ship Marine Equipment
Electrical Equipment

40,502,433.76
12,349,479.12
36,763,300.70
8,303,490.00

Grand Total

2,750,000.00
8,199,000.00

108,867,903.58

165,698,374.50

167,185,639.58

Privision Purchasing Commission

Statistical Division, New York
February 25, 1943

Revised March % 190

1,028,891,728.43
26,212,888.29
22,676,800.00

659.796.911.70
376,837,837.75
49,087,446.98

80,971,650.35
2,296,063.12

132,667.61
$2,150,247.50
2,140,000.00

237,537,753.97
108,432,505.00
20,244,153.01

237.670.421.58
160,583,052.51
22,384,153.01

578,213,264.35
296,230,941.90
44,651,383.86

341,154,842.77
189,726,360.39
24,407,230.85

1,065,722,199.43

109,796,138.32

$6,422,915.11

366,214,711.99

420,637,627.10

919,095,590.11

555,288,434

6,03,646.0

6,415,666.00

21,863,877.8

15,448,191.00
14,492,190.28
76,807,641.80
106.739.064.27
133,843,972.70
7,996,961.28

26,212,888.29
63,179,433.76
128,248,667.52
232.306.285.36

165,433,068.00

26.528.02.85

4,349,010.80
1,720,781.81
16,066,219.56
63,289,012.62
2,687,300.50
7,173,852.70
17,343,420.93

38,598,030.87
10,689,525.28
33,581,103.33
6,896,210.00

3,968,430.80
26,685,240.90
28,697,063.26
30,309,194.74
3,032,542.50
2,460,346.80
22,074,933.33

37,374,766.00
62.278.168.13
37,205,404.74
3,032,542.50
3,760,348.00
25,574,933.33
379,313.87

20,956,018.19
99,832,968.84

100.376.000.00
1,896,569.33
1,070,092.60

173,736,578.00
17,803,376.00
29,632,411.44
108,575,000.00
1,696,569.33
1,070,092.60

673,793,399.20

782,661,302.78

115,729,480.22

96,564,871.36

124,022,754.67

218,587,626.03

558,063,918.98

448,344,196.53

1,702,645,127.63

1,868,383,502.21

225,525,618.54

148,987,786.0

490,237,466.46

639.225.253.13

1,477,159,509.09

1,003,632,630.54

2,242,057,562.88

2,409,243,200.00

$99,769,491.60

150,060,985.22

587,434,270.86

737,495,256.08

1,802,288,071.

1,178,626,322.73

17,803,376.48

All Other

Total Products

322,759,366.75

26.882.01.44

1,300,000.00
3,500,000.00

2,029,848.70

379,313.87

1,070,092.60

01,066.25

52,738,065.80

53,152,132.05

10,629,523.78
9,538,990.51
98,346,151.30

1,896,569.33

8.98.60.65
80,970,217.97
1,527,255.46

All

134
THE PRODUCTING VISIONS
POLICE PRINCIPE CONTRACTS OF 21,000,000.

Values in J. 1. Dollars
Classification

Total Value of Contract

sof

Material

Supplier

y-290

1,057,189.60

1,051,871.00
1,450,151.63

2,247,346.99

2,247,346.99

1,336,635.03

1,336,635.03

6,981,978.58

3,397,996.56

2,772,280.00

2,772,280.00

129,454.10

1,020,750.75

1,020,750.75

561,202.35

$61,202.35

2,642,825.90

1,060,872.80

V-156 Dive Dombers .
Accessories

13,333,130.21

13,333,130.22

13,310,826.76

27,451,123.11

27,451,123.11

14,548,019.02

877,266.52

877,266.52

10,952,638.38

10,952,638.38

8,978,748.00

775,235.80

775,235.80

3,174,840.70

3,174,840.70

3,097,777.82

23,812.21

23,812.21

997,523.61

997,523.61

962,118.63

7-292
F-2%

Douglas Aircraft Corp.

and Equipment

Pursuit Planes, Tires &
Tubes

Training Planes,

Enginee Accessories

France Propellers,Register
Spares

Purmuit Planes, Accessories

Beth

basis

Boeing Aircraft Co.

P-704

Spares

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.

limbers is 30 Spares

Douglas Aircraft Corp.
Santa Monies, Calif,
North American Aviation,

Englewood. Calif.
F-719

240 DB-7B Airplanes and

Seattle, Fash,

San Diego, Calif.

P-691

Boab Release

Douglas Aircraft Corp.
Seate Monica, Calif,

Feed Northrop A-17A Please,
Spares

Trainer Planes, Pratt 4

1,814.85

22,303.45

12,903,104.09

7,639,505.60

1,973,890.38

1,198,654.58

77,062.89

53,250.64

35,404.96

33,590.13

4,691,688.26

4,679,200.33

7,348.11

7,348.11

12,487.93

5,139.82

10,977,163.30

9,436,062.99

234,396.59

234,396.59

407,029.00

407,029.00

1,539,100.31

897,674.72

30,582,750.96

30,582,750.96

38,711,311.74

38,711,311.74

3,619,719.52

3,819,719.52

3,819,719.52

5,916,000.00

5,916,000.00

10,530,973.00

10,530,973.00

30,582,750.96

14,135,777.96

1,837,500.00

1,037,500.00

14,999,920.71

14,999,920.71

36,711,311.74

21,873,091.03

4,096,403.00

4,769,986.33

4,769,986.31

18,421,778.60

9,615,389.29

1,071,000.00

13,509,631.00

13,509,631.00

30,538,180.82

13,157,549.82

20,899,711.00

50,510,872.33

50,510,872.33

144,507,496.22

73,096,912.03

1,015,782.83

404,009.57

18,481,776.60

18,481,778.60

4,096,403.00

30,538,180.81

3,871,000.00

205,973,449.03

205,973,449.01

61,465,952.79

20,899,711.86

Cyclose Enginee

3,969,728.00

3,969,728.00

2,953,945.17

611,773.26

Pratt Whitney Twis leap

7,450,776.00

7,450,776.00

7,450,776.00

Pratt Whitney Yasp

6,188,720.28

6,188,720.26

6,188,720.28

7,177,639.50

7,177,639.50

7,177,639.50

Total

4,386,331.97

22,303.45

4,691,688.26

30,538,180.81

whitewy Enginee

08-79 Airplanes, Spares

4,386,331.97

5,325.60

10,977,163.30

-

T-477

Bombara, Signal Pistols,

5,315.60

1,814.05

-

F-672

of

Payments Due

6,432,130.21

Airplanes spare Propellers

Horta American Aviation,Ins.
Englewood Calif,
Grummer Aircraft Corp.

Mat

4,432,130.21

Bartis Model 167-F, Parts

North American visition,Inc.

Product

Balance

1,057,189.60

Glass Martia Co.

New York, N.Y.

F-276

Capital

Value of
Undelivered
Material

28-5-KIP Planed .

Douglas Aircraft Corp.
Santa Venica, Calif,

Baltimore, M.
Curtise-Tright Corp.

Credit of Elexione

-

P-273

Total

-

F-272

Product

-

PM

United Aircraft Corp.
last Hartford, Cons,

Advances Outstanding
French

Capital

-

7-229

Deliverine

-

San Diego, Calif.

Value

Total

75A Bank AirCrases

New York,

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.

Product

-

Curtise-Eright Corp.

Capital

-

MUS
P-220

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

-

Contract No.

over

OR

as as February 15, 1941

Airplane Enginee

-

790,050.14

538,937.60

$13,489.97

813,489.97

3,535,625.00

3,535,625.00

2,001,000.00

2,001,000.00

12,180,000.00

4,455,516.92

Heap 52030 Enginee

1,322,879.40

1,322,879.40

1,322,879.40

Spare Parts for Enginee

1,616,839.34

1,616,439.34

1,393,771.53

64,071.72

64,071.72

71,323.29

72,923.29

223,067.81

87,072.80

34,667,775.00

34,667,775.00

4,720,309.35

7,249,545.04

7,249,545.04

10,317,172.54

10,317,172.54

29,947,385.65

12,380,664.07

665,846.81

665,846.02

1,349,354.79

683,507.90

2,416,342.79

2,416,342.79

1,114,057.31

1,234,057.31

4,666,333.47

1,135,933.37

3,497,659.69

3,497,659.69

27,792,433.00

27,792,433.00

83,212,380.85

$1,922,368.16

541,023.93

541,023.93

895,290.90

354,266.92

$40,821,468.39

132,069,011.26

72,245,985.26

4,907,341.90

4,907,381.90

211,048.03

Hasp Enginee

2,306,902.40

2,306,902.60

2,306,902.40

last Hartford, Come.

A-3600 Cyclone Englass

108,034,510.68

106,034,510.64

24,822,129.83

Spare Parte for Enginee

2,539,672.32

2,539,672.32

1,644,381.42

Total

219,935,958.68

219,935,958.68

87,886,947.42

-

175,560.77

18,978,557.61

-

1,524,925.56

301,527.50

301,517.50

7,724,483.06

3,887,340.50

-

-

Wasp Enginee

1,524,915.56

East Bartford, Come.

827,655.73

2,001,000.00

Wasp R-1830 Enginee

Curtise-fright Cary.
New York, N.I.
United Aircraft Corp.

566,242.03

1,641,345.70

12,180,000.00

Various Tools . Spare Parts

United Aircraft Corp.

1,373,786.18

V-1710-015 Enginee

United Aircraft Corp.

A-2%

17,494.02

V-1710-015 Enginee

last Markford, Coan.
General Motors Cary.
East Hartford, Conn.

17,494.01

-

United Airerart Corp.
last Bartford, Conn.
United Aircraft Corp.
last Fartford, Cose,
limited Aircraft Corp.

-

Fee York, N.Y.
General Ectors Corp.

-

General Meters Corp.

7-295

IN-6%

790,050.14

2,180,083.30

20078 27030 Engine Starters

Fee York,

1-277

-

F-349

7,428,300.82

2,180,083.30

Bendix Aviation Corp.
Bendix, N.J.

-

1

8,802,087.00

Pasp 3306-0 Enginee

-

P-236

7,273,059.00

8,002,087.00

United Airerah Carp.
last Martford, Conn.

Few York,
7-235

5,791,909.00

7,273,059.00

-

1-223

5,791,989.00

7,273,059.00

-

7-37

5,791,989.00

Pasp 3306-0 Enginee

-

7-205

last Bartford, Comm,

-

F-200

Enginee

Rasp 5306-0 Enginee

-

F-199

Prett Whitney Wasp 5304-0

-

F-196

United Aircraft Corp.
last Bartford, Conn.
United Aircraft Corp.
last Hartford, Coan,
United Airoraft Corp.

-

F-197

Jr. Enginee

Englase

-

United Aircraft Corp.
East Eartford, Conn.

-

F-196

-

East Martford, Comm.

611,773.26

-

United Aircraft Corp.

-

New York,
F-183

-

artise-fright Corp.

-

1019

18,978,557.62

40,821,468.39

135
THE MITUS PERCHASING MINSIONS
PURMIN PREVIOE CONTRACTS OF #1 000,000. CR over

French

Santa Nomics, Calif.
J.V.P. Corp.

Lisk Trainers, spare

7-665

United Aircraft Corp.

Hamilton Stanfard Propellers

F-676

East Martford, Come.
Bendix Aviation Corp.

664,009.82

5,806,558.73

5,006,558.73

3,553,076.88

500,064.40

500,064.00

Spare Parts Accessories

1,299,253.56

1,299,253.56

21,353,234.61

10,648,380.90

350,265.00

4,974,537.06

459,459,551.27

161.549.809.18

45,608,586.10

45,606,586.10

9,306,877.80

9,306,877.80

3,602,063.20

3,602,063.20

11,877,906.80

1,580,234.06

1-587

Cincinnati Milling Machine
& Cincianati Grinders,Inc.
Cincianati, Ohio

Grinding Milling Machines

1,196,026.20

1,196,026.20

978,491.90

F-412

Heald Machine Co.
Boreeater, Wase.

Grinders, etc.

2,037,855.00

2,037,855.00

1,861,576.26

Leland-Cifford Co.
forcester, Mass.

Drilling Machines, etc.

Metallic Parts for Pases

2,838,000.00

113,031.00

109,012.50

176,276.74

67,266.24

140,562.00

86,812.00

26,704,297.72

24,537,961.77

3,966,354.70

3,966,354.70

Total

5,038,000.00

5,038,000.00

946,000.00

-

Searchlights, Sound Locaters,

2,433,933.25

2,433,933.25

2,236,826.90

Brooklyn,

Carbona Kirrors

International General

2,368,232.00

2,368,232.00

Electric Co.

Searchlight Equipment,
Portable Power Plants

Colt's Patest Fire Area

Machine One Spares

5,637,625.00

7,124,890.00

4,442,171.78

4,442,171.78

2,857,534.70

2,857,534.70

946,000.00

-

Youngstem, Ohio

705,537.32

-

1,477,265.00

-

New York, L

P-676

2,329,532.16

414,066.25

946,000.00

49,976.63

49,976.62

7,174.95

7,174.95

1,296,849.63

1,710,915.88

-

F-76

Sperry Cyroscope Co.Inc.

946,000.00

-

-54

1,073,190.75

123,703.50

1,196,902.25

Nfg. Co.

Brooklyn,

Equipment

Searchlights, Portable

569,784.23

-

International General

1,378,462.38

-

1-4/88

Complete Searchlight

19,354.70

19,354.70

16,206.11

16,206.11

1,389,560.00

1,503,626.25

-

Co.Inc.

Sperry Gyroscope

-

Hartford, Code.
1-688

44,818.95
129,036.30

109,012.50

53,750.00

2,200,000.00

157,849.95
217,534.30

53,750.00

2,200,000.00

2,127,952.24(cr)

68,496.00

1,073,290.50

2,838,000.00

155,994,278.19

86,496.00

1,213,852.50

Arlington, s. .
F-174 Toughton Sheet & Tube Co. Shall Quality Steel Houses
24/31 RYC

113,031.00

-

26,704,297.72

Total

297,909,742.09

1,474,110.96

-

1,213,852.50

-

13,352,017.76

1,738,064.03

Ordance Equipment

Payments Due

1,671,441.60

-

13,352,017.76

Willing Machine Equipment

1,671,441.60

1,738,084.09

Pollack Mrg. Co.

3,193,435.35

4,974,537.08

Grinders, Flanors, etc.

ARE

1,099,255.67

6,479,502.85

5,730,316.63

leadte Tool
Tayseebore, Ps.

ammition

1,105,787.00

350,265.00

5,730,316.63

3,695,266.63

F-647

3,090,034.60

12,196,908.97

3,695,266.63

Pittsburg, Ps.

3,296,175.50

3,294,175.50

33,550,143.50

3,695,266.63

1-(1)

1,213,772.87

5,007,258.60

33,550,143.58

Equipment for Aluminum
Kills

United Engineering &

2,253,451.85

2,935,802.50

1,799,754.00

Foundry Co.

539,644.58

539,644.58

2,935,802.50

1,799,754.00

7-372

170,180.37

5,407,698.15

1,799,754.00

Brown Sharps Neg.Co.

Providence, k. I.

6,531.41

1,881,702.04

835,070.19

11,687,201.00

Screw Machines

7-346

6,531.41

2,672,154.04

-

Copy.

1,623,028.50

790,452.00

-

Kermay

193,466.48

1,623,028.50

790,452.00

11,887,201.00

1,672,441.60

Lr. Leftlend Mashine Tool Co. Lathes
New York,

Milwauk Wis.

1,992,600.00

Product

various additions

459,459,551.27

M-343

Depicted

440,597.46
664,669.82

9,399,838.60

Total

Machine Total

Toth

1,209,470.00

9,399,838.60

Propellers, including

Product

2,044,540.19

Aircraft Engine Starters
for 5030 Enginee

Capital

-

7-731

Bentix, N.J.

3,112,751.50

Deliveries

2,044,540.29

parts

United Aircraft Corp.
last Hartford, Conn.
Curtise-Bright Corp.
New York, N.I.

Total

-

1-60

3,112,751.50

AND dreg ring assemblies

Dougla Aircraft Co.

Product

-

Airplane Accounting

capital

Dalance

Material

-

Material

Supplier

Contract So.

Page

Total

-

and

F-217

Value of
Undelivered

Advances Outstanding to Credit of Visatons

Value

Total Value of Contract

Classification

can

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

44 at February 15, 1941

Values is v. s. Dollars

2,166,335.95

1,800,016.75(cr)

2,838,000.00

1,892,000.00

2,200,000.00

2,200,000.00

5,038,000.00

4,092,000.00

197,106.35

147,129.74

38,699.84

31,524.89

4,932,087.64

3,511,534.55

3,063,709.40

3,044,354.70

2,287,750.47

2,772,546.36

10,529,353.74

9,006,090.24

Power Plants
See York,

3,617,805.30

1,018,308.29

1,018,306.29

21,585,825.53

21,585,825.53

19,650,575.78

-

3,617,805.30

1,018,308.29

-

Total

3,617,805.30

$27,565.00

-

Tractors

1,666,000.00

-

Caterpillar Tractor Co.
Peoria, m.

Trucks, Modal 922

1,666,000.44

827,565.00

766,222.90

$27,565.00

-

F-728

1,666,000.04

827,565.00

-

New York, . .

13,348,461.75

123,703.50

1,196,902.25
766,222.90

766,222.90

-

Long Island City, N.T.
The mite Meter Co.

15,283,721.50

1,073,196.75

-

Parts

15,283,711.50

434,066.25

1,935,249.75

766,222.90

-

Tank Trusks Spare

Truck Corp.

7,220,142.99

-

1-59

New York, Y. Y.

Bank International Enter

19,226,761.73

341.461.85

1,935,249.75

-

N

Trust Chassis

17,739,496.73

-

acter Vehicles
E
General Notors Overame

1,487,265.00

-

Total

30.44.85

136
Page ,

THE BRITING PERCHASING MISSIONS

PORMER FRENCH CONTRACTS OF $1,000,000. OR

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

OVER

As AS February 15, 1941

falses M.S. Dollars

-

1,419,264.00

1,419,264.00

1,265,383.34

5,292,000.00

Capital

Product

Value of
Indelivered
Material

Balance
Payments Due

133,880.66

133,880.66

133,680.66

133,880.66

-

5,292,000.00

5,292,000.00

-

2,134,000.00

2,134,000.00

-

-

-

-

-

-

7,426,000.00

7,426,000.00

-

-

-

-

5,292,000.00

-

2,134,000.00

2,134,000.00

-

7,426,000.00

7,426,000.00

52,694,063.88

414,066.25

7,129,479.70

7,543,545.95

1,073,198.75

689,926.40

19,199,026.00

81,400,148.90

27,218,820.10

79,912,883.96

1,963,125.15

1,487,265.00

214,243,873.06

414,066.25

52,738,065.80

53,152,132.05

97,196,804.20

325,128,562.19

175.193.692.19

540,859,700.25

98,270,002.95

539,372,435.25

1,073,198.75

1,487,265.00

-

-

-

-

-

-

Aviation Casoline

-

Aviation Casoline

-

Compagile Industrielle

-

Philadelphia,Pa.

2-89 (a)

1,285,383.34

-

OF (o) Sun 011 Co.

1,419,264.00

Total

Total

time

Total

Petroles Products

1,419,264.00

-

You York, L.

Ansconda Electrolytic

Product

-

Copper Export Ass's.

Deliveries

Total

-

Metals

Product

-

Supplier

French Invoice

-

x

Capital

Material

and

Contract No.

Advances Outstanding To Credit of Missions

Value

Total Value of Contract
Cleanification

des Petroles
-

-

-

Grand Total French

Contracts being completed by April 30, 1941.

.

(a) Contracts in process of Cancellation

British Purchasing Commission

Statistical Division, See York
February 25, 1941
Revised March 9, 1943

-

Total Non-Aircraft

-

Total

-

See York, 3. T.

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THE BRITISH PURCHASING MISSIONS

BRITISH CONTRACTS OF 6.000.000 OR

Total Value of Contract

Classification

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Value

Advances Outstanding to Credit of Vissions

of

and

Material

Supplier

Contract No.

Airfrease

over

as at February 15, 1941

Values is U. S. Dollars

Capital

Product

Total

Deliveries

Capital

Product

Total

10,205,458.61

10,205,488.61

Value of

Balance

Undelivered

Material

Payments Das

Flying Boats

16,259,598.03

16,259,598.03

240,833.16

16,028,764.87

5,813,276.26

Hudson 1. II III

22,581,810.59

22,581,810.59

22,328,990.90

202,426.24

202,466.26

252,819.69

50,993.15

Lookheed Aircraft Copy.
Burbank, Calif.

Single Seat Fighters

-

30,566,978.29

30,566,978.29

5,698,512.70

7,277,594.54

7,277,596.54

24.666.465.59

17,590,871.05

Brewster Aeronautical Copy.

Buffaloes, Warning Horna

.

12,690,396.37

12,690,396.37

5,060,350.44

3,688,384.00

3,688,384.00

7,630,045.93

well

Ourtier-Bright Corp.

Hask SLA & 874

43,331,628.88

43,331,628.88

25,002,930.46

10.420.107.97

10.420.107.97

18,328,698.02

7,906,590.45

4-87

Dongles Aircraft Corp.
Santa Monios, Calif.

Boston Beabers

42.128.159.43

42.128.159.43

52,781.40

14,394,021.67

14,394,021.67

42,075,378.03

27,681,356.36

North American Aviation

Harvards

24,907,560.75

24,607,560.70

12,133,860.13

3,193,517.50

3,193,517.80

12,473,700.50

9,280,182.90

1,338,558.79

1,338,158.79

New York, N. T.

1.4.734

16772.796.XX

14,772,796.30

Modal 37's

33,033,560.40

33,033,660.40

Treater
Corp.
See York, T.

Model 01-06

2,552,347.39

2,552,347.39

Harvard 11

3,578,510.51

3,578,510.51

1,371,325.89

Breaster Amt constion) Corp.

Dive Bombare

North American Aviation
Englewood, Calif.

Spare Parts Barvard I

Pan American Airways

Flying Boats

New York,

1,775,986.00
4,567,500.00

1,553,100.00

1,553,100.00

5,307,500.00

5,307,500.00

9,875,000.00

Lodestar Airplanes

1,143,560.87

1,143,560.97

306,013.45

Lockheed Aircraft Corp.

Venture Planes

burbank, Calif.
Lookheed Aircraft Corp.
Burbank, Calif,

Hudson II AirCream

4-1835

Curtise-Bright Corp.

87A Bank Airfrease

10,186,795.36

41,229,862.50

41,229,862.50

42,595,649.31

42,595,649.31

-

4-1748

4-1749

17,611,330.00

10,186,795.38

-

Model U-C Purwuit Planes

17,611,330.00

-

Vultee Dive Bombers

22,414,067.20

22,414,067.20

New Tork, L L L

Flying Boats

Liberator Airplanes
Total

20,291,709.00

15,779,064.56

15,292,677.50

9,026,558.10

2,943,587.50

2,943,587.50

3,438,098.90
10.794.776.00

6,817,056.00

6,817,056.00
5,687,567.59

10,186,795.38

4,499,227.69

2,921,969.48

1,158,359.59

1,158,359.59

1,435,000.00

1,435,000.00

2,414,738.82

2,017,738.82

6,756.67

659,184,914.70

659,796,916.70

$0,971,650.35

612,000.00

6,381,566.40
17,611,330.00

-

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.
San Diago, Calif.
Consulidated Aircraft Corp.
Sea Mago, Calif.

4,522,544.34

6,264,119.00

-

75A 443 Heak Air/Teach Spares

4,512,644.34

-

Curtiso-Bright Corp.
New York, N. Y.

6,381,686.40

599,047.20

7.60.01.00

6,264,119.40

-

Northrop Aircraft Corp.

6,381,686.40

-

G-36A Pursuit Planes

-

Greene Aircraft & Engineering Corp

15,292,677.50

15,292,677.50

837,555.42

13,693,450.00

-

NA73 Airplanes

20,291,709.00

-

North American Aviation Inc.

13,893,460.00
20,291,709.00

238,508.22

6,252,066.00

-

Atroobrea

300 Dive Bombers

238,508.22

6,752,066.00

-

Buffalo, s. T.
licensee Aeronautical Corp.

13,893,480.00

-

Bell Aircraft Corp.

Pulter Aircraft Coro.
Vultee Field, Calif.

4-5068 *

516,586.02

3,328,986.00

Lockhead Aircraft Corp.

Hawthorne, Calif.

4-2587

1,020,319.05

Bell Aircraft Corp.
Buffalo, v. T.

4-1156

A-2012

503,633.03

3,328,986.00

Beth Page, N.T.

A-1155

503,633.03

9,875,000.00

Englanced, Calif.

1=1548

18,075,833.50

3,328,966.00

New York, T.

1-1493

254,257.90

27,795,099.00

35,939,412.50

-

1-147

1,274,576.85

44,395,612.50

17,863,578.90

9,875,000.00

Burbank, Calif.

1-1490

1.274.576.35

16,400,513.50

17,863,578.90

-

4-1452

35,939,412.50

57,130.92

1,962,495.09

16,400,513.90

Aireobre 7400

New York,
A=1326

44395,612.50

35.939.02.50

61,289.53
3,407,088.70

-

4-767

44.395.612.50

-

A-391

21,527,030.44

24,158.61

-

was

11,113,427.52

33,033,660.40

1,604,593.61

1,192,140.10

Dive Bombers Spares

Vultee Field, Calif.

14,772,796.30

3,659,366.78
11,506,629.96

24,158.50

1,371,325.99

Single Seat Fighters

36,536,750.90

1,604,593.61

1,192,140.10

Vultee Atropert Corp.

51,928,926.12

111,421.91

1,371,325.99

Belgian Government

15,442,177.22

2,471,057.86

1.192.140.10

A-557

32,880,317.01

15,442,177.22
3,659,366.78

Single Seat Fighters

A-406

6,150,989.35
22,797,316.39

11,506,629.96

122,271.09

1,435,000.00

5,687,567.99

12,825,000.00

12,825,000.00

41,229,862.50

28,404,862.50

17,538,186.78

17,538,186.78

39,673,579.83

22,135,493.05

10,850,000.00

10,850,000.00

22,014,067.20

11,564,067.20

491,832.17

491,832.17

1,036,068.50

544216.0

2,407,966.15

145.242.22

-

51,978,928.12

11,020,389.95
55,215,633.40

-

51,828,928.12

4,860,000.00

32,747,649.40

-

150,000.00

132,667.51

-

Modal 322

Baltimore, Md.
Leakheed Aircraft Corp.
Burbank. Calif.
North American Aviation
Englewood, Calif.
Lookhead Aircraft
Corp.
Burbank, Callf.
Lookhead Aircraft Corp.
Burbank, Calif.
North American Aviation
Englewood, Calif.

4,860,000.00

37.65

-

462,000.00

55,577,533.40

-

11,010,927.50

55,215,633.00

-

11,010,927.50

-

A-457

A-435

Atropbrea

lembers Model 187

-

and

Bell Aircraft Corp.

Glenn in Martin Co.

buffalo, N.L.

261,14.21

-

A-344

1,600,000.00

-

A-250

1,600,000.00

Reassembling Planse

-

A-224

A-242

Gorp.

turback, Calif.

-

A-218

Lookhead Aircraft

-

A-152

Englewood,Calif.

-

1-96

New York, S.

3,941,661.93

-

A-71

Burteak, Calif.

-

1-6

Lockheed Aircraft Copy.

.

4-67

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.
San Diego, Calif

-

I-37

132,667.61

2,262,741.93

2,262,741.93

237,537,753.97

237,670,421.58

578.213.26435

341.154.842.77

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THE BRITISH MISSIONS
BRITING CONTRACTS OF 6,000,000. a CTP

MA February 15, 1941

Brooklyn.,I
A-SLO

Dertise-Bright Corp.

New York, L.

Quants Mashina Dues

Bamilton Propellers
Propellers, Constant Speed Controls
Propellers
Propellers
Propellers
Propellers

Bombights, carrying cases, etc.
Propellers
Total

Total Aircraft Products

2,485,610.15

2,485,610.15

1,160,198.15

1,160,198.15

4,458,120.00

4,458,120.00

1,797,600.00

1,797,600.00

1,268,760.00

1,266,760.00

1,110,523.00

1,110,523.00

2,813,400.00

2,813,400.00

1,519,236.00

1,519,236.00

1,590,542.66

1,590,542.66

-

Sperry Cyressope Co.

1,185,333.75

1,518,264.00

1,518,264.00

149,130.00

46,947,446.98

49,087,446.98

2,296,063.12

1,028,891,728.43

1,065,722,199.43

2,140,000.00

56,830,471.00

116,436.75

1,616,246.26

19,549,904.56

44,449,904.56

110,000,000.00

90,450,095.44

11,480,301.50

11,480,301.50

45,921,206.00

34,440,904.50

106,432,805.01

160,583,052.51

296,230,941.90

189,726,360.39

7,613,288.54

9,753,288.54

15,230,976.92

7,617,668.38

5,944,921.04

5,944,921.04

9,889,053.46

3,944,132.42

822,356.19

17,403.74

17,403.74

74,666.25

1,242,805.08

1,242,805.08

2,485,610.15

1,242,805.07
528,256.84

57,262.51

515,904.36

515,504.56

1,043,761.40

1,114,530.00

1,114,530.00

4,458,120.00

3,343,590.00

719,040.00

719,040.00

1,797,600.00

1,078,560.00

507,504.00

507.504.00

1,266,760.00

761,256.00

277,630.75

277,630.75

1,110,523.00

832,892.25

109,796,138.32

1,125,360.00

1,125,360.00

2,813,400.00

1,688,040.00

1,519,236.00

1,519,236.00

540,055.30

540,055.30

1,590,542.68

1,050,487.36

-

that Barkford. Comm.

4-5064

1,260,000.00

-

4-2557

1,260,000.00

-

4-2556

519,299.54

791,892.07

-

4-2555

10,406,353.00

791,892.07

-

A-2554

2,140,000.00

-

4-2553

325,863.08

-

4-2551

Pairmhild Aviation Corp.
Jemelos. N.I.
United Aircraft Corp.
But Bartford. Comm.
United Aircraft Corp.
East Bartford. Conn.
United Aircraft Corp.
East Bartford. Come
United Aircraft Corp.
Bast Bartford, Cone.
United Airoraft Corp.
East Bartford, Comp
United Airoraft Corp.

17,696,840.00

-

Jameine M.
4-1453

15,556,840.00

10,408,353.00

-

Others Unite

Brooklyn, NL

2,140,000.00

-

Pairehild Aviation Corp.

52,150,247.50

6,184,707.72

-

4-621

26,528,424.85

-

Cyrosoopee

376,837,837.75

23,971,535.07

14.07.187.72

-

Sperry Gyrosoops Go.

322,759,366.75

54,078,471.00

24,900,000.00

54,325,311.57

14,692,914.00

-

4-324

45,921,206.00

-

Propellers
Propellers

45,921,206.00

-

New York, T.

United Aircraft Corp.
East Bartford, Coan.

134,900,000.00

36,820,613.50

8,286,460.00

-

Prett Whitney Enginee

4-320

1,178,601.39

110,000,000.00

24,900,000.00

Total

Airulane Accessories
1-307
Curtles-Wright Corp.

2,792,847.65

30,427,500.00

2,444,692.00
31,412,071.47

-

East Hartford, Come

2,792,847.65

6,393,113.50

6,406,434.00

8,060,288.40
61,816,701.95

.

Detruit, Mich
United Aircraft Corp.

26,952.28

-

A-5095

20,906,576.00

5,635,596.40
46,711,830.48

-

Rolle Reyce Marlin n Enginee

8,665,368.0

14,500,140.00

-

Packard Meter Do.

69,657,517.00

-

6-787

63,190,680.00

32,261,130.48

Payments Dea

-

Engine Spares

East Bartford, Conn,

6,466,837.00
6,406,434.00

5,635,596.40

14,450,700.00

Material

.

Crutize-Bright Corp.

3,077,459.55

-

4-532

81,201,361.50

Total

-

P.A.W. R2800 Enginee

New York, L.

64,896,161.50

16,305,200.00

Product

Balance

Undelivered

-

United Aircraft Corp.

12,262,111.60

-

Allieon Enginee

A-282

1,115,931.60

20,342,400.00

-

New York, N.L.
General Motors Corp.

R26004 Enginee

1,115,931.60

20,342,400.00

-

A-196

New York, N.I.

1,115,931.60

.

Ourtias-Bright Corp.

Capital

-

4-194

GR1820 2600 Enginee

Value of

Advances Detetending to Credit of Missions

-

P. & . BC36 Enginee & Propellers

Durtise-Bright Corp.

Deliveries

626,110.00

626,110.00

1,369,134.00

743,026.00

2,140,000.00

20,244,153.01

22,384,153.01

44,651,383.86

54,422,915.11

366,214,711.99

420,637,627.10

919,095,590.11

24,407,230.85

555,288,434.01

4

Value

Total

-

filted Aircraft Core.
East Hartford. Donn.

1-25

Product

-

100-2*

Capital

-

Airclase Enginee

Material

Supplier

-

Total Value of Contract

and

Contract No.

-

Classification

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

-

Value in ", 5. Dollars

139
THE BRITISH PERCEASING MISSIONS

as at February 15. 1941

Cleanification

Total Value of Contract

Value

and

Material

Supplier

Product

Total

Deliveries

Credit of

1,277,050.00

1,277,050.00

1,277,050.00

1,275,000.00

1,275,000.00

1,227,050.00

1,037,362.50

1,037,362.50

518,585.22

Chicago, III.
Louis Emergency Co.,

Deed Mechine Tools

6-797

Chicago, III.
International Machine Tool Co.
Indianapolis. Ind.

Lathee

See Britata Machine

Balance

Undelivered
Product

Machine Tools

4-707

Value of

Advences Outstanding to
Capital

Total

.

Louis B. Energes Go..

Capital

Material

Payments Due

-

Contract No.

Page 6

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

IDITISE CONTRACTS OF 51,000,000 OR OTER

47,950.00

47,950.00

$18,585.22

1,037,362.50

518,777.28

793,475.00

Serve Mashines

1,310,600.00

1,310,600.00

793,475.00

1,310,600.00

Norten Co..
Icrosstor, Mess.

Grindere

1,422,670.84

1,422,670.84

50,449.30

327,845.04

327,845.04

881,221.54

553,376.50

Cincinnati Milling Machine 00..

Milling Machines

1,396,166.50

1,396,164.50

97,811.50

647,592.50

647,592.50

1,298,353.00

650,760.50

4-2042

Louis 3. Encreas Co..

Used Mashine Tools

1,235,000.00

1,205,650.00

5,870.00

5,870.00

29,350.00

23,480.00

A-2300

Chicago, m.
National Acce Co.
Cleveland, Ohio

1,235,000.00

Chucking Mashines

1,962,675.00

1,962,675.00

864,662.00

1,962,675.00

1,097,993.00

Milling Machines

3,755,235.60

3,755,235.00

1,251,745.20

3,755,235.60

2,503,490.40

1,672,781.85

1,672,781.85

-

2,782,033.00

2,782,033.00

-

-

Automatic Serve Machines

1,290,000.00

1,290,000.00

International Manhine Tool Co.,

Terret Lathes

-

-

1,007,190.00

1,007,190.00

-

-

-

26,212,888.29

26,212,888.29

4,349,010.80

-

Total

$74,000.00

2,622,000.00

1,748,000.00

2,167,125.00

2,167,125.00

557,593.95

557,593.95

1,672,781.85

1,115,187.90

2,782,033.00

2,782,033.00

322,500.00

322,500.00

1,290,000.00

967,500.00

1,007,190.00

755,392.50

251,797.50
6,415,686.43

251,797.50
6,415,646.41

21,863,877.49

15,448,191.08

222,333.33

1,258,927.03

1,703,993.70

-

Mileaukee, Wise.
National Acad Co.,
Cleveland, Ohio

Indianapolis, Int.

874,000.00

253,333.33

1,804,640.00

2,311,306.67

1,750,000.00

4765,633.76

4534,121.32

2,784,121.32

478,430.80

476,430.80

desires Propellants

Wilsington, Del.
A-111

A-174

Hereules Power Do.,

Wilsington, Del
L.L. duPost de Second & Co. Inc.,

667,000.00

2,000,000.00

2,667,000.00

741,072.97

222,333.33

T.N.T.

760,000.00

2,000,000.00

2,760,000.00

195,360.00

253,333.33

4,536,000.00

7,551,633.76

Rifle Powder

3,015,633.76

Casace Forder

1,306,800.00

Del.

Bee Jersey Forder Co..

Enroll New Jersey

T.N.T. Bankslees Rifie Forder

-

A-474

12,832,000.00

1,308,800.00

1,876.68

3,015,633.76

782,470.16

12,832,000.00

4-502

Tennessee Forder
Example, Team.

Plant Expension

25,494,000.00

25,496,000.00

-

25,279,000.00

4-633

New Jersey Forder Co.,
Kenvil, New Jersey

Plant Expension

10,566,000.00

10,566,000.00

-

9,827,730.45

63,179,433.76

1,720,781.41

38,596,030.87

Total

40,502,633.76

22,676,800.00

1,740,000.00

1,740,000.00
25,279,000.00

-

Atlas Feeder Co.,

9,827,730.45

3,966,430.80

4-551

4-554

$ Shells

East Altre, m.

.303 Cartridgee

Anxington Area Co.,
Bridgeport, Come

.45 Cartridges

Area Co.,

.50 Cartridges

Bridgeport, Comm.

Barrisbarg Steel Corp..

Barrisburg,
U.S. Orderation Engineers, Inc.,
Cleveland. Okio
Resington Area Co.,
bridgeport Come.

LL kline Co.,

4-001

325,000.00

1,465,000.00

1,790,000.00

261,383.45

1,174,176.00

1,174,176.00

1,174,176.00

2,486,000.00

2,910,000.00

260,932.53

6,127,500.00

6,127,500.00

3,239,174.79

1,430,755.20

1,430,755.20

1,009,465.21

5,352,266.00

5,668,116.00

165,808.25

3,107,781.35

3,107,781.35

3,107,781.35

10,097,500.00

10,097,500.00

3,510,066.25

426,000.00

315,850.00

Boube

Boats

.30 Ball Cartridges

Brooklyn, L.

Pressur the Masters Cartridge Do.

Winsheater Area Co.,

.303 Cartridge

New Naver, Comm.

909.484.40

938,500.00

1,316,701.80

560675

1,096,000.00

1,096,000.00

6,654,515.60

6,658,515.60

300,914.65

625,914.65

426,000.00

314,590.87

738,590.87

315,000.00

8,750,000.00

9,468,500.00
1,314,701.80

572,648.24

4,065,000.00

459.0675

454.474.75

369,567.00

925,000.00

407,881.19

2,843,507.94

407,681.19
3,158,547.94

989,415.00

999.05.00

5,607,606.25

6,532,608.25

1,203,616.55

902,701.90

2,225,007.87

1,910,476.60

2,888,325.21

2,888,325.21

421,289.99

13,406.80

5,186,457.75

2,343,759.81

6,587,433.75

5,598,018.75

4,380,433.00

2,766,324.75

572,648.24

1,962,187.60

738,269.55

18,892,190.28

325,000.00

-

4-43

Palless-Stand Car arg. Co..

New York, L.L.
Festers Cartridge Co.,

8,664,000.00

-

A-408

.45 Cartridges

East Alten, m.

7,566,000.00

-

A-355

Festers Carteider Co.,

1,096,000.00

-

A-353

Cartridge Cases

-

4-336

Shells

Bereick, Pease.
Bridgeport Bress Co.,
Bridgeport, Come

-

4-290

American Our Foundry Go.,

215,000.00

20,956,018.19

-

4-216

17,899.04

11,092,000.00

42,966,441.67

American
A-212

526,329.84
12,432,000.00

-

Vilmington, Del.
A-00

T.N.T.

-

Than Typeter Co.,

-

1-21

517,125.00

-

Milling Bachlees, Outter Arbore

-

A-3578

Lather Equipment

-

4-3527

Keerney Treaker Corp..

2,167,125.00

-

4-3522

2,167,125.00

-

Gisholt Mashine Go..
Medison. Wise.

2,622,000.00

864,682.00
1,251,745.20

-

4-3434

2,622,000.00

-

Cleveland, Ohio

Turret Lather Equipment
Lather Equipment

-

Marser Desear Co.,

-

Medicon, Wise,
A-3429

-

4-3375

Cinstenati Milliam Machine Co.,
Cinnimeti, Ohio
Dishelt Bachine Co.

-

A-3362

-

Cinsinmati, Ohio

-

4-1719

-

A-1122

Co...

Britain. Cosa.

-

4-1020

2,016,662.35

742,056.56
4,065,000.00

2,102,832.40

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IRITISE CONTRACTS OF $1,000,000 OR OVER

Page 7.

as at February 15, 1941

247,212.00

4,223,800.00

4,471,012.00

Arwour Piercing 2 Founder that

10,800,000.00

914,881.00

3,840,000.00

4,754,851.00

37 - Arrour Piercing Shot

160,000.00

1,420,000.00

1,580,000.00

1,103,400.00

1,103,400.00

282,750.00

11,895,000.00

13,745,000.00

1,020,833.82

1,600,000.00

1,600,000.00

-

1,578,150.00

1,578,150.00

2,675,000.00

3,060,000.00

1-2262

Bridgeport, Conn.
Pullman Standard Car Neg. Co.

Howiteer Shells

4-2331

Tokheis 063 Tank Pump Co.

Boabs, Installation of Special Equip.

206,768.00

2,167,500.00

2,374,268.00

4-2332

Crocker Reeler Electric Mr. Co.

10 lb. Mortar Bombe

161,000.00

2,151,637.00

2,312,637.00

1,831,000.00

1,169,000.00

3,000,000.00

-

2,378,250.00

2,378,250.00

1,000,000.00

6,250,000.00

7,250,000.00

177,398.57

2,490,000.00

2,667,398.57

3,892,000.00

3,892,000.00

New York, N.I.

.45 Calibre Cartridgee
Machine Tools for Torpedoes

Materburg Clock Co.
Materbury, Conn.

4-2972

National Fireworks Inc.
Test Renover, less.

1-2998

Bridgeport Bress Co.
bridgeport, Conn,

20 m. Cartridge Cases

National Fireworks Inc.

Shells

A-3210

Pices

Leading & Assembling 75 m. Complete

Fast Renover, Mass.
Total

D

3,840,000.00

2,388,334.81

395,000.00

1,420,000.00

1,185,000.00

275,850.00

275,850.00

820,650.00

544,800.00

1,829,250.00

3,633,250.00

10,874,166.18

9,090,916.18

385,000.00

672,500.00

1,057,500.00

2,675,000.00

2,002,500.00

206,766.00

325,125.00

531,893.00

2,167,500.00

1,842,375.00

161,000.00

537,909.00

698,909.00

2,151,637.00

1,613,728.00

1,831,000.00

1,164,000.00

195,206.51

3,000,000.00

1,169,000.00

1,070,212.50

1,070,212.50

2,183,043.49

1,112,830.99

775,000.00

1,275,000.00

6,250,000.00

5,975,000.00

622,500.00

622,500.00

2,490,000.00

2,044,898.57

300,000.00

300,000.00

3,892,000.00

3,592,000.00

500,000.00

Rounds

525,000.00

525,000.00

1,750,000.00

1,750,000.00

22,690.00

357,000.00

379,690.00

1,720,000.00

1,363,000.00

10,689,525.18

26,685,240.90

37,374,766.06

99,832,968.84

74,807,661.88

800,835.00

1,273,743.58

1,750,000.00

2,275,000.00

22,690.00

1,720,000.00

1,742,690.00

12,349,479.12

115,899,188.40

128,248,667.52

16,066,219.56

1,295,625.00

1,295,625.00

988,550.00

6,112,549.41

6,913,364.41

507,324.01

5,471,237.50

5,471,237.50

5,471,237.50

49,174,864.40

49,174,864.40

49,174,864.40

3,250,000.00

3,250,000.00

2,757,040.00

1,850,000.00

1,850,000.00

1,850,000.00

1,785,000.00

1,785,000.00

17,340.00

525,000.00

2,366,546.19

395,000.00

1,200,000.00

-

Brooklyn, N.T.
4-2963

1,471,814.00

1,183,612.50

-

East Alten, III.

8,100,000.00

1,600,000.00

-

L. Bling 400

10,800,000.00

1,578,150.00

-

A-2906*

.50 Calibre Cartridges

2,700,000.00

394,537.50

-

Resington Area Co.
Bridgeport, Conn.
Restarm Cartridge Co.

J-2499

2,700,000.00

400,000.00

-

4-2769*

3,379,040.00

394,537.50

-

Ind.

493,245.45

4,223,800.00

-

Mayne,

-

Fort

385,000.00

611,882.85

1,091,972.00

-

York N.T.

118,637.40

544,760.00

400,000.00

-

20 - Cartridge Cases

-

fridgeport Bress Co.

-

4-1720

1,804,000.00

118,637.40

-

Assembling, Leading 40 1b. Bomba

-

Trojan Forder Co.
Allentown, Peane,

Payments Due

-

1,850,000.00

East Alton, III.

4-1647

Total

Balanoe

-

.303 Rifle Cartridgee

Product

Value of
Dadelivered
Material

-

Cartridge Cases

894,732.19

-

Bridgeport Bress Co.
bridgeport, Coen.
Western Cartridge Co.

10,800,000.00

.75 - Shells

-

York, N.Y.

247,212.00

-

So. Boston, Mass.
National Pneumatic Co.

559,990.00

-

1-1383

Co.

-

Middletown, Com.

Capital

-

Pusss

Deliveries

Credit Missions

-

St. Louis, Mo.

Roebling total Corp.

4-1335

4-1562

1,171,472.85

Advance Outstanding to

-

Carter Carbureter Co.

S.A. Woods Machine

4-1386

1,171,472.85

St. Louis, No.

-

-

Pusse

Value

Total

-

immition (Dertimed)
Carter Carburetor Co.

Product

-

Supplier

Contract No.

Capital

-

Material

-

and

-

Total Value of Contract

Classification

w

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Ordinance Equipment

4-2559

4-15%

Predictors

Brooklyn, N.T.
Crosby Co

Puffalo, T.
High Standard Mr. Co.
See Never, Conn.

Smith Feason Inc.
Springfield, Mass.

Drus Magazines

.50 Calibre Machine Ouns
Revolvers, 5th Barrel

2,959,850.00

1,585,965.00

8,914,085.00

3,883,335.78

12,797,420.78

8,512,089.46

4,628,753.68

238,537.50

310,123.25

548,660.75

1,240,493.00

964,882.25

6,100,000.00

2,376,875.96

8,476,875.96

9,445,577.79

8,968,701.83

450,000.00

481,066.60

931,066.60

1,202,203.99

771,137.39

600,250.00

600,250.00

1,715,000.00

1,114,750.00

8,914,085.00

8,512,069.46

17,426,176.46

273,050.00

1,240,493.00

1,513,543.00

8,000,000.00

9,445,577.79

17,445,577.79

1,631,000.00

2,131,000.00

1,715,000.00

1,715,000.00

1,100,000.00

1,100,000.00

500,000.00

428,796.01

600,000.00

3,323,000.00

8,499,036.00

11,822,036.00

297,923.63

-

Links, .30 .50 Calibre Ammunition

huffalo, N.Y.

Co.

4-1512*

Aircraft Machine Ouns

2,150,000.00

2,150,000.00

1,623,500.00

1,623,900.00

17.90

3,323,000.00

125,000.00

125,000.00

500,000.00

375,000.00

2,237,259.00

5,560,259.00

8,201,112.37

5,963,853.37

1,623,482.10

1,623,482.10

-

4-24

Detroit, Mich.
Fedders Mr. Ca.

Anti-Tank Equipment

809,850.00

1,767,660.00

1,373,865.00

-

4-UN

York, N. L.
Kelsay-Hayee Wheel Co.

.50 Calibre Aircraft Machine Oune

441,957.50

645,000.00

-

4-126

Martford, Conn.
National Posumatic Co.

Forgings

1,325,702.50

441,957.50
728,865.00

-

with

Colt's Patent Fire Area Co.

213,980.00

-

we

492,960.00

-

Sub-Marhine Oune

Springfield. Mass.
Crusible Steel Co. of America
See York, N.Y.

278,960.00

-

L-422

278,980.00

-

Magazines

Smith & Honson Inc.

-

Acto Ordnance Corp.

Sex York, Y.

A-560

-

Sub-Machine Oune

-

Aste Ordnance Corp.
fee York,

-

Rifles,Cartridges, Powder & Tanks

Yes York,

-

Steel Export

-

4-470

Fee York, N.T.

800,835.00

307,075.00

4,331,481.82

-

wn

Sub-Machine Dune

307,075.00

5,605,225.40

-

A-111

Auto Ordnance

-

Martford, Coan.
A-312

2,074,578.58
-

Machine Oune, etc.

-

Colt's Patest Fire Arma Co.

-

Predictors

-

Scerry Orrescope Co.

Freskive. Y.

-

A-248

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THE PERCHASING COMMISSION
BRITISH CONTRACTS OF $1,000,000 OR OVER

as February 15, 1941

Values in U. 5. Dollars

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL Page a.

Total Take of Contracts

Certification

Advances Outstanding to Credit of Missions

and

Thompson Sub-Machine Ouns Model 28-4

New York, N.Y.

4-2360

National Photostic Co.,
New York, N.I.
Crusible Steel Co. of America

4-2795

New York, N.T.
American Oerlikon-Gende Corp.,
New York, N.T.

4-2657

Empire Ordinance Corp.

L-7773

New York, N.T.
Resington Area Co.,

20 - Our Baryels

1,560,360.00

2,110,360.00

4,300,000.00

6,189,729.00

5,469,210.00

6,307,560.00

6,175,000.00

6,175,000.00

838,350.00

75 - Tank Date

.30 lifies

2,764,861.70

Struthers Malls Titurville Corp.
Titurville, Ps.

1,497,500.00

4,216,840.00

5,714,340.00

Empire Ordnance Corp.,

Mounts for 75 - Tank Octo

7,000,000.00

7,000,000.00

Sapine Ordinance Corp.,
New York, N. T.

Receil Mentantees for 75 - Tank Ouna
Total

Tanks Tank Equipment

I-M

Tracts Ditcher Co.

33,812,000.00

36,576,861.70

Barrels

New York,
4-3439

550,000.00

1,889,729.00

-

4-3438

Forgings for Loose Barrels

2,691,000.00

6,931,332.00

4" - IVI Star & 3.7 L.A. Mr n Our

Bridgeport, Donn.
4-2788

Tank Dane & Spare Parts

2,691,000.00

6,931,332.00

Transmissions

-

A-2311

-

Auto-Ordinance Corp.,

-

Brooklyn, N.
1-2308

36,763,300.70

3,000,000.00
195,542,984.66

3,000,000.00
232,306,205.39

750,000.00

1,072,726.70

123,232.47

550,000.00
1,700,756.11
285,000.00

315,000.00
2,500,000.00
241,505.22
941,850.00
2,309,175.57
390,090.00
1,290,000.00

7,847,357.50
315,000.00
3,250,000.00
241,505.22
941,850.00
2,309,175.57
940,090.00

2,990,756.11

1,325,000.00

40,000.00

3,084,045.00

3,124,045.00

(12,845.00

945,000.00

5,500,000.00

3,000,000.00

767,273.30

525,768.08

2,691,000.00

1,749,150.00

6,806,099.53

4,498,943.96

1,560,360.00

1,170,270.00

4,300,000.00

3,198,972.89

5,469,210.00

4,819,500.00

4,606,875.00

33,812,000.00

4,000,000.00

1,420,000.00

4,955,952.60

1,260,000.00

6,175,000.00

2,177,335.00

1,325,000.00

6,931,270.30

1,488,060.00

1,235,138.30

95,000.00

Balance

Payments Das

1,568,125.00

1,054,210.00

33.581.105.31

Material

1,568,125.00
2,764,861.70

63,289,052.62

Value of
Undelivered

1,203,060.00

1,123,125.00

-

Bosteighte

Co.,

1,840,000.00

-

-

Sperry

4-2222

6,250,000.00

1,8,0,000.00

-

Box . Drum Magazines for Thompsons

5,500,000.00

1,995,317.50

Total

-

Auto-Orderon Corp.,
New York, N. I.

Elisabeth. N. J.

750,000.00

-

37 - Ones U. 5. Aray Design

York, Pa.

Product

-

American Type Founders Inc.,

-

4-1964

-

1,260,000.00

York Safe Lock Co.,

-

1,260,000.00

37 - Anti-Tank Carriages

4-3620

5,852,040.00

-

12,783,310.10

Capital

-

6,931,270.10

Deliveries

-

5,852,040.00

Buffalo, New York

A-2232

Total

-

.30 Calibre Colt Aircraft Oura

Buffalo Area

Product

-

Ordered Agudement (Cent'd.)

Capital

-

Supplier

Gustract No.

DISE

Material

700,000.00
300,000.00

28,697,063.26

700,000.00
300,000.00
62,278,166.97

32,576,861.70

4,216,840.00

3,537,005.00

7,000,000.00

6,300,000.00

3,000,000.00
132,253,932.04

2,700,000.00
106,739,064.17

95,000.00

95,000.00

Findlay, Ohio
1,115,373.00

1,140,373.00

431,388.00

19,800.00

1,108,605.00

1,126,405.00

$13,930.10

Pallean-Standard Car MCE. Co.,

N-3 Tanks

1,250,490.00

4,125,000.00

17,820,000.00

21,945,000.00

Cleveland, Okle
Total

4,625,000.00

17,820,000.00

17,320,000.00

30,309,194.74

2,687,200.50

-

3,061,362.16

3,061,362.16

-

-

17,803,376.48

17,803,376.48

-

-

Total

17,600,000.00

37,205,404.74

Four Weel Drive 50-008 Cheats

3,103,412.39

33,718,925.00

22,000,000.00

500,000.00

Four Reel Drive Co.,

3,103,432.39

39,253,925.00

5,125,000.00

4,125,000.00

1,453,262.68

Tan Too Mark Trucks

5,685,000.00

4,400,000.00

896,452.60

3,102,008.59

Mark arg. Corp.

5,685,000.00

4,037.40

3,102,008.59

Long Island City, N. T.

20,500,000.00

621,250.00

-

4-3055

25,000,000.00

1,050,000.00

Truck Chasela

3,048,505.52

6,000,000.00

1,227,762.60

Four Reel Drive Co.,

3,068,509.52

725,000.00

5,500,000.00

533,750.00

5,488,087.82

Dodge Trucks

2,082,310.76

500,000.00

350,000.00

5,458,087.82

Caryalar Report Corp.,
Detroit, Wich

2,520,000.00

458,750.00

5,488,087.82

Chistonville, Visc.

19,124,340.00

437,689.24

437,689.24

331,310.00

-

4-2022

173,736,578.00

24,924,340.00

75,000.00

Dodge Trucks

Clintoeville, Rise.
4-1593

165,433,068.00

5,800,000.00

18,690.00

Chrysler Export Corp.,

Detroit, With
1-1395

8,303,490.00

5,800,000.00

232,502.20

7,173,852.70

6,896,210.00

(22,889.46

162,745,887.50

133,843,972.76

472,889.46

1,648,745.91

1,175,856.45

669,317.06

869,317.06

3,061,362.16

2,192,045.10

915,609.01

915,609.01

3,048,905.52

2,132,896.51

776,726.97

774,726.97

2,870,910.19

2,096,183.22

10,629,523.78

7,596,961.26

-

1,231,800.00

19,667,480.00

-

Steel Plate for Tenks

18,690.00

25,000,000.00

-

Republic Steel Corp.,

1,155,000.00

6,832,520.00

-

A-2009

Tank Parts

1,050,000.00

506,326.90

5,500,000.00

-

105,000.00

22,725,000.00

594,676.90

1,332,520.00

-

Amount Cestings for Tank Terrets

22,000,000.00

108,150.00

-

725,000.00

471,289.50

106,150.00

-

Geopbell Ryent Cannon Co.,

Rackagon, Wich

39,403,925.00

1,335,600.00

683,985.00

-

Co.,

Pittsburgh, Pa.

39,253,925.00

2,671,200.00

237,695.50

-

4-2125

150,000.00

N-3 Tanks

Lise, Ohio

4-2627

1,500,000.00

26,500,000.00

-

Midyatone, Ps.
Line Locanctive Works,

N-3 Tanks

25,000,000.00

1,375,600.00

212,695.50

-

Baldeta Co.,

2,520,000.00

-

Pittabe P. Pa.

N-3 Tanks

2,520,000.00

-

Midyatone Pa.
Pressed Steel Car Co.,

24,924,340.00

-

4-1962

Areas Cestings

-

A-1960

General Steel Castings Corp.,

24,924,340.00

-

A-1795

Wright B-975 Enginee

26,500,000.00

-

4-17%

Chicago, m.
Continental Motor Corp.,

25,000,000.00

-

4-1465

1,500,000.00

-

Berwick, Pa.

4-1381

-

25,000.00

Suspension Datte

-

Co-extal Mountings

York, Pa.

1,375,600.00

-

York Safe Lock Co.,
American Can Founday Co.,

25,000.00
-

L-4

-

Business Traction Bilaher Co.,

Findley, Oble
4-495

3,032,542.50

3,032,542.50

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Page

INITIAN CONTRACTS CA 6,000,000 OR over

Values is F. 5. Dollars

as at February 15. 1941

Classification

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Total Value of Contract

Value

not

Capital

Metals

-

2,352,000.00

-

1,176,000.00

1,079,076.60

-

-

1,176,000.00

1,176,000.00

1,176,000.00

-

-

3,920,000.00

3,920,000.00

2,824,934.01

-

1,176,000.00

1,176,000.00

772,443.36

3,136,000.00

3,136,000.00

1,536,000.00

2,100,000.00

4,850,000.00

.

1,195,040.00

1,195,040.00

.

-

-

1,123,826.24

1,123,826.24

-

1,046,281.60

1,046,281.60

26,882,411.44

29,632,411.44

17,343,420.93

-

2,360,000.00

2,360,000.00

2,029,848.70

-

1,375,000.00

1,375,000.00

-

2,360,000.00

2,360,000.00

-

4,720,000.00

4720,000.00

-

1,774,000.00

1,774,000.00

115,065.99

294,000.00

403,585.64

109,585.64

360,000.00

360,000.00

1,536,000.00

1,176,000.00

1,300,000.00

2,100,000.00

3,550,000.00

240,000.00

1,195,040.00

955,040.00

1,300,000.00

240,000.00

-

1,123,826.26

1,123,826.24

-

-

-

1,046,281.60

1,046,281.60

1,300,000.00

-

2,750,000.00

1,095,065.99

-

Total

960,000.00

294,000.00

4,287.15

-

Round Rod & Alusima Alley Bare

960,000.00

-

-

Custom Co. of America

New York, L.

Alminus Sheets

-

Yes York, 4L

Alustrum Red Bar

96,923.40

-

4-5075

New York, M.I.
Baysolds Metals Co.

92,636.25

-

Reynolds Metals Co.

92,636.25

-

Kidland, Rich.
4-5037

2,750,000.00

60,500.70

-

-

Nagasium Bar Ingota

80,654.93

-

1,536,000.00

Dow Chesical Co.

20,154.21

-

Nagnesium Ingota

20,154.21

-

Dow Chemical Co.

Midland, Mich,

388,056.33

-

3,136,000.00

861.614.73

-

Cartridge Bress Strip

473,550.40

.

Revers Copper Bress Co.

4-1536

4-6061

2,352,000.00

Cartridge Breas Strip

Cartridge Bress Strip

See York, T.

4-2328

2,352,000.00
1,176,000.00

Cartridge Brass Strip

473.558.40

-

Cartridge Brass Strip

Revers Dopper Dress Co.

of

Payments Doe

-

1-143

2,352,000.00

2,352,000.00

Cartridge Bress Strip

fee York City, N.I.

1,095,345.09

Cartridge Bress Strip

Materbury, Dona
American Bress Co.
Materbury, Come

Material

Balance

-

was
was

1,176,000.00
2,352,000.00

1,176,000.00

-

Materbury, Conn.
Chase Bress Copper Go.

4103

1,075,200.00

-

Revers Copper treas Co.
New York city, N. T.

1,480,450.87

1,075,200.00

Cartridge Breas Strip

Materbury, Copa.

American Bress Co.

Total

-

we
we

Bridgeport, Conn,

Product

-

American Ireas Co.
Bridgeport Breas Co.

2,342,065.60

-

6-620

2,342,065.60
1,075,200.00

New York City, N. I.

with

Value of

Indelivered
Capital

.

Copper Wire Rods

-

Aparoads Fire Cable Ot.

Advances Outstanding to Credit of Missiona

Deliveries

.

Alaminu Rods, etc.

New York city, N.T.

1-377

Total

-

Austral Colo of America

I-IN

Product

-

Material

Supplier

Contract No.

2,460,348.86

3,760,348.86

9,538,990.51

8,528,601.65

82,600.00

Shine Marine Equipment

48,836,000.00

Oargo Steamers

4,105,000.00

43,045,000.00

47,150,000.00

8,199,000.00

100,376,000.00

108,575,000.00

Total

1,774,000.00

2,000,000.00

10,000,000.00

12,000,000.00

44742,000.00

36,836,000.00

1,500,000.00

10,000,000.00

11,500,000.00

43,045,000.00

35,650,000.00

3,500,000.00

22,074,933.23

25,574,933.33

90,346,151.30

80,970,217.97

379,313.87

379,313.87

1,896,569.33

1,527,255.40

379,313.87

379,313.07

1,096,569.33

1,517,255.46

2,029,848.70

Electrical Equipment

011 Co.

Total

1,070,092.60

1,070,092.60

-

Payments to credit of Angle American

1,896,569.33

-

See York, T. 1.

-

Standard 011 Co. of N. J.

1,896,569.33

1,070,092.60

1,070,092.60

673,793,399.20

782,661,302.78

Total Rec-Aircraft

106,867,903.58

1,070,092.60

1,070,092.60
115,729,480.22

-

Total

1,896,569.33

-

1,896,569.33

-

Spare Radio Instruments

-

handly Radio Corp.
Baltimore, M.

-

44,742,000.00

-

4.094.000.00

3,776,000.00

1,774,000.00

.

Todd-California Shipbuilding Gorga

Oakland, Calif.

Ongo Steamers

4720,000.00

-

South Portland, Maine

Marine Engines

1,770,000.00

944,000.00

-

4-3166

Ball-Scott Motor Day Co.
Barkalay, Calif.
Todd-Beth Shipbuilding Corp.

2,360,000.00

944,000.00

-

A-2596

4-3265

Marine Enginee

916,666.67

-

Detroit, Mish,

1,375,000.00

590,000.00

-

Pankard Motor Car Do.

458,333.33

590,000.00

-

A-2354

Marine Enginee

247,551.30

-

Detroit, Kich,

330,151.30

-

Passard Motor Caz 00.

82,600.00

456,333.33

-

A-1032

Marine Enginee

-

buffalo, H. T.

Marine Enginee

-

Co.

-

Detroit, Mish.
Sterling Engine

-

Fachard Motor Car Co.

A-005

96,564,871.36

124,022,754.67

218,587,626.03

558,063,918.98

448,344,196.53

148,987,786.47

490.237.466.16

639,225,253.13

1,477,159,509.09

1,003,632,630.54

HRITIEN

165,098,374.50

Naturaly 25, 1941

involved March 1941

1,866,383,502.21

225,525,618.54

Contracts being completed by April 30, 19a.
o

.
Commission

Satistical Division, York

1,702,685,127.63

EXHIBIT B

143

THE BRITISM PERCONATING MISSIONS

FOUNDED PRINCI CONTRACTS - THE TOTAL OF DRIVING ADVANCES
AND BALANCE or PATMENTS DUE IS IN a $10,000,000
is AS February 15. 1941

Values is Thousands of U. s. Dollars

Cleanification

Material

Supplier

and

Advences Ortetaniting to Credit

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Feb.

Capital

Destrect No.

Predart

Total

Capital

Product

Total

Payments Due

Total of

Retimated Payments

Balance

Steelone

16-28

Mar.

Apr.

British

Jase

May

Page 1

July-

After

Dec.

Dec.

Minuses

Total of

Britten Fresch

Balance

Balance

Des

Des

.

Alcount

10,532

14,136

-

15,000

15,000

21,876

-

4,770

4,770

9,615

1,000

-

10,532

634

1,820

1,000

1,800

1,606

300

600

13,236

1,820

2,100

15,154

12,026

12,903

26,667

30,583

-

-

-

36,874

38,712

Sparee

-

16,598

2,200

10,958

3,620

2,780

3,920

6,506

47,283

2,000

1,500

1,500

4,069

5,441

5,135

5,796

6,206

16,998

1,940

7,841

7,135

7,296

7,708

2,576

11,461

9,915

11,216

14,214

-

16,598

-

3,572

-

-

13,510

13,510

13,158

-

48,197

48,197

66,423

634

-

7,250

7,250

10,317

10,317

12,381

912

2,400

-

3,498

3,498

27,792

27,792

51,923

1,028

-

10,748

10,748

38,109

38,109

64,304

-

27,346

27,346

86,306

86,306

130,727

-

Total

3,572

-

08-78 Airplanes,
Spares

7,935

-

Donglas Aircraft Corp.,

Sesta Bonies, Calif.

4,096

-

Prett Whitney Enginee

-

Trainer Planes,

-

Bombare 18-30 Spares

960

1,680

14,385

18,481
'a

26,668

30,539

114,620

131,218

22,690

29,948

11,717

79,715

13,213

20,667

11,717

102,413

113,161

67,950

13,397

217,033

244,379

-

.

M-719

4,096

-

Inglewood Calif.

1,035

-

P-704

5,916
1,838

7,640
-

San Diego, Calif.
North American Aviation,Ins.

5,916

4,386

-

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.

MT

240 DB-70 Airplanes

4,386

-

Seattle, Yeah,

877

-

F-472

877

-

Martin Medal 167-7,

Parts Equipment

Baltieurs, m.
Boeing Aircraft Co.,

-

Glenn Martin Do.

P-m

1,680

Airplane Enclose

East Dona,

7-296

(1)
Corp.
BALANCE

Wasp Enginee

B-2600 Cyclone Enginee

East York, N.T.

Total

(1) Includes that portion of 4-5103 which was forestly the option - P-2%
statements

British Purchasing Commission

Statistical Division, Bee York

Darsh 1941

Revised Barch % 1943

-

United Aircraft Corp.,

144
THE BRITISM PURCHASING MISSIONS
PRITISH CONTRACTS WAVE THE TOTAL OF UNRECOVERED ADVANCES

February 15, 1941

Estimated Payments

Advances Outstanding

to Credit of Missions
British Advances

10,205

5,913

7,278

7,278

17,591

10,420

10,420

7,909

Douglas Aircraft Corp.
Santa Monies, Calif.

Boston Bombers

14,394

14,394

27,681

North American Aviation, Inc.,

Harvards

3,194

3,194

9,280

Ball Aircraft Corp.

Airecobres

4,960

4,860

6,151

32,747

32,880

22,797

15,442

15,442

3,659

Model 37's

Pultee Aircraft Corp.,
Pultee Field, Calif.
freester Aeronantical Corp.,
Bell Aircraft Corp.,

73

895

408

35

895

296

475

399

3,611

3,054

3,197

3,147

2,914

4,384

2,222

2,501

283

BLA

2,778

924

2,682

3,129

1,534

1,992

18,649

678

614

1,282

905

1,631

1,410

1,446

587

1,956

2,623

3,145

14,381

36,537

3,271

3,381

4,463

4,645

20,777

3,659

11,113

816

1,643

2,060

2,084

4,510

11,507

11,507

21,527

-

215

715

20,526

Dive Bombers Spares

16,401

16,401

27,995

1,923

Dive Bombers

17,864

17,864

18,076

Airenobres

6,252

6,252

7,641

Breaster Aeronautical Corp.,

300 Dive Bombare

4,513

4,513

15,779

812

812

812

#12

North American Aviation, Inc.,

F.A.73 Airplanes

6,264

6,764

9,029

458

453

453

451

Northrop Aircraft Care..

Pultee Dive Bombers

6,817

6,817

10,796

852

831

Pulter Aircraft Corp.,
Multee Field, Calif.

Model 48-0 Purwuit Planes

5,688

5,688

4,499

Glean Martin Co.

Bombers Model 187

133

105

759

Baltimore, MS.

A-557

we

New York, N.Y.

A-1476

huffale, N.I.
A-1492

New York, N.T.

A-1493

Inglewood, Calif.
A-1555

Hawthorne, Calif.

A-1748

is

507

9,420

2,018

2,420

2,420

2,420

8,796

696

812

265

133

3,699

42,075

12,474
11,011
55,677

51,979
14,772

33,034

15,022

44,396
35,940

3,474

3,473

13,893

7,425

4,294

20,292

4,473

2,745

15,293

4,152

4,959

17,611
10,187

3,806

315

18,329

16,201

41,230

Venture Planes

12,825

12,825

28,405

855

1,031

1,032

1,031

1,073

7,183

Lookhead Aircraft Corp.,

Bedaca II . Airfress

17,538

17,538

22,135

3,826

3,324

4,917

3,483

4,760

1,825

39,673

Ourtise-Fright Corp.,

67A Newk Airfranes

10,850

10,850

11,564

48

129

164

5,963

5,260

22,416

133

218,718

218,851

322,316

24,747

28,698

28,000

28,005

145,398

56,331

541,167

R2600 Enginee

14,451

32,261

46,712

31,412

15

2,783

3,842

4,207

4,101

12,669

3,795

78,124

New York, N.T.
General Meters Corp.,

Allison Enginee

6,393

30,428

36,821

23,972

906

4,374

3,704

3,122

2,881

8,985

United Aircraft Corp.,

P.A.W. 82800 Enginee

6,406

6,287

14,693

6,184

18

572

775

932

1,240

2,647

Packard Motor Co.,

Rella Reyes Merlis II Enginee

24,900

19,550

44,450

90,450

10,000

10,000

20,000

20,000

30,450

Burbank, Calif.
4-1835

675

24,869

Lookheed Aircraft Corp.,
Burbank, Calif.

4-1749

402

16,018

-

A-1556

71

-

Burbank, Calif.

N.A.-73's

-

1-34

North American Aviation, Inc.,

Inglewood, Calif.
Lookhead Aircraft Corp.,

Model 322

-

A-250

Lookhead Aircraft Corp.,
Burtask, Calif.

-

1-212

678

-

Buffale, New York

A-226

Dec.

Dec.

-

A-218

10,205

Hawk SEA 874

Inglowood, Calif.

June

May

-

1-96

Apr.

Due

Certise-Fright Corp.

New York, S.T.
A-57

Single Seat Fighters

Mar.

-

Corp.,

Flying Boats

-

A-54

San Diego, Calif.
Lookhead Aircraft
Burbank, Calif.

16-28

-

1-60

Cresolidated Aircraft Corp.

Due

Total

Total
Advances
Balance

-

A-77

Product

After

-

Capital

-

Description

Supplier

and

Contract No.

Feb.

-

Cleanification

July-

Balance

-

Values is Throusade of V. 5. Dollars

Page

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

AND BALANCE OF PATIENTS DUE IS IN EXCESS OF $10,000,000

New York, N. Y.

New York, L.

1-282

East Hartford, Conn.

1-7-7

Detroit, Mish,
A-5095

United Aircraft Corp.,

Prett Whitney Engines

11,480

11,480

102,006

154,156

34,443

6,888

186,459

7,827

4,592

60,793
20,877

-

1-1%

(1) Ourties-Wright Corp.,

-

A-194

11,137

-

Total

134,900

11,394

11,567

45,921

340,625

East Bartford, Dann.

28,261

26,222

66,145

15,362

1,000

1,000

5,876

2,026

12,832
25,494

-

-

18,321

-

22,321

-

52,150

-

Total

10,566

1,050

1,065

5,876

2,016

48,092

Initial & Presellants

9,828

Total

35,107

-

Plant Expension

-

25,279

1,740

1,740
25,279
9,828

16,847

11,092
215

738

12,045

600

-

Leavil, J.

Plant Expension

1,740

600

600

138

600

788

650

65

50

so

50

-

1-11

Tennessee Porder
Co.,
Membris, Tenn.
New Jersey Pender Co.,

-

4-502

THI & Seckeless Rifle Porder

-

New Jersey Pender Co.,

Kenvil, L.

-

was

THE IDITION PURCHASING MISSIONS

INITION CONTRACTS WIDDLE THE TOTAL OF ADVANCES

Page ,

AND BALANCE OF PATIENTS DUE IS IN EXCESS OF $10,000,000

As At February 15, 1941

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Estimated Payments

Advances Outstanding

4-1562

Middletown, Conn.

Armour Piercing
2 Founder Shot

Western Cartridge Co.

.303 Rifle Cartridges

Roebling Metal Corp.

East Alton, m.

Total

Due

16-28

Mar.

Apr.

May

June

Total

July-Dec.

Dec.

Due

2,700

2,700

8,100

1,806

1,829

3,633

9,091

1,804

4,529

6,333

17,191

-

4-2028

Product

Advances &
Balances

550

600

700

1,757

1,512

1,119

1,177

1,176

2,350

1,757

2,062

1,719

1,877

1,926

7,850

750

5,500

10,800
12,726

-

British Advances
Capital

Contract Yo.

Total of
After

Feb.

-

Description

Supplier

and

Balance

-

to Credit of Missions

Classification

-

Values is Thousands of v. 3. Dollars

23,526

Interest

.50 Calibre Calt Aircraft

5,852

1,995

7,847

4,935

1-277)

Remington Area Co.

2,765

1,235

4,000

32,577

26,954

11,727

38,681

57,074

1,333

5,500

6,833

19,667

5,800

5,800

19,124

5,500

6,000

20,500

5,685

5,685

33,719

725

4,400

5,125

17,600

4,125

500

4,625

17,320

New Haven, Conn.

Buffalo, N.Y.

Qune

.30 Rifles

Bridgeport, Conn.
Total

3,496

3,573

17,446

300

500

2,950

2,214

11,524

907

126

1,755

2,069

12,782

1,005

1,005

1,005

1,000

8,532

20,030

36,577

1,605

1,992

2,992

1,624

17,893

30,970

95,755

1,500

1,500

1,500

1,500

9,045

4,622

26,500

700

700

700

1,150

8,320

6,434

24,926

2,500

2,500

2,000

2,000

7,600

3,900

26,500

2,300

2,200

2,300

2,200

11,000

13,719

39,406

-

Buffalo Arma Co.

700

-

A-1600

600

-

5,964

17,426

-

5,560

3,084

-

2,237

1,158

-

8,969

3,323

-

8,477

.50 Calibre Machine Dane

-

2,377

Righ Standard Mr. Co.

Detroit, Mich,

387

600

-

6,100

A-1559

-

4,629

-

12,797

-

3,883

Aircraft Machine Oune

-

8,914

Kelsey-Hayes Wheel Co.

A-1265

-

50 Calibre Aircraft
Machine Ouns

-

Colt's Patent Fire irea Co.
Hartford, Conn.

A-BLL

1,000

2,000

2,000

1,400

5,600

5,600

22,725

1,100

1,700

1,700

1,700

6,000

4,079

21,945

Tank Equipment

A-1465

Pullman-Standard Car Mg. Co.
Chicago, m.
Continental Motor Co.

M-3 Tanks

Wright 1-275 Enginee

-

A-1381

Maskagon, Mich.

1-1962

Lisa Loeasotive Works

M-3 Tanks

500

M-3 Tanks

-

A-1960

Pressed Steel Car Co.
Pittsburgh, Penns,
Baldwin Lonomotive Co.

4-1795

Bddystone, Peans,
N-3 Tanks

Lime, Ohio
A-2869

Republic Steel Corp.

Steel Plate for Tanks

Cleveland, Ohio
Total

1,120

141

6,683

27,385

34,068

127,930

1,261

9,100

10,600

10,200

9,950

47,565

39,254

161,998

thing
A-3165

Todd-Bath Shipbuilding Corp.

Oargo Steamers

2,000

10,000

12,000

36,836

1,717

2,642

3,192

2,500

2,500

12,100

12,185

48,836

Todd-Bath Shipbuilding Corp.
Oakland, Calif,

Cargo Steamers

1,500

10,000

11,500

35,650

1,000

3,255

2,200

2,500

2,500

12,000

12,195

47,150

3,500

20,000

23,500

72,486

2,717

5,897

5,392

5,000

5,000

24,100

24,380

95,986

126,331

386,105

512,436

795,501

25,299

66,520

67,372

77,380

75,792

314,825

168,313

1,307,937

South Partland, Maine

4-3166

Total

(1) Includes that portion of A-5103 which was foresty the option on 4-194.

Pritiah Purchasing Commission

Statistical Division, New York
March 1941
Revised, March 1941

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March 10, 1941
9:15 a.m.
RE PORT CLEARANCE OF BRITISH TRADE VESSELS

Present:

Mr. Gaston
Admiral Waesche

H.M.Jr:

At Cabinet the question came up, and I

haven't got it, and Herbert, if you would
call up Stimson's office and ask him for
a copy of a letter which evidently Herbert

Hoover wrote to Stimson, and that is what
brought up the whole thing, in which he

talked about this delay in turning over
ships; and if we would turn it out and

speed up, it would make so many more tons

available, you see. If you can get the letter
from Stimson's office.

So the President turned to me and said,

"What about it?" And I said it was under
us. The President wanted us to look into

it and see what could be done, and any
other agency like Commerce, whoever else -

who else besides Commerce does inspection?

Oh yes, there is a 60-day - some kind of

labor contracts. I am not familiar th
it. It is on the unloading, stevedores
or something.

Well, anyway, I want you to get out a cable
this morning to all your port captains and
say, "How long are ships being held in the
harbor, what is the average delay," you see.
I want a quick report and what are the causes
of the delay.

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-2Waesche:

And that, of course, is just on the turn-

around to England?
H.M.Jr:

Well, wherever they go.

Waesche:

South American ports, too?

H.M.Jr:

Why not let's get the delay on all ships;

but let's start in with the English flag
ships. Let's start with the English flag
first, and then follow it up with the
others.

The amusing thing, when I was in the Navy,

one of the jobs that I had - there were
these delays in these coal colliers that were
coming up there. Remember the ones that --

Waesche:

Like the Cyclops?

H.M.Jr:

And they sent me down there, and they were

coming up from Norfolk. It took eight to ten
days to turn them around. I turned them
around in two days. So I am back to my old

job again, shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves.

But I turned them around in two days.
Gaston:

At Norfolk?

H.M.Jr:

No, New York Harbor. Two days, where it was

taking six to eight days.

Now, Herbert Hoover has some figures, but I

would like to step on this and get a report
from the President.

Waesche:

H.M.Jr:

All right, we will get at it right away.
That is the trouble. I think you will run
into trouble -- you will find cut there is

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something with the stevedores. I had the
same thing. It was hard to get them to work

continuously on the unloading.
Waesche:

Well, they usually like overtime.

H.M.Jr:

I went all through that. I got to be pally
with those fellows. I got the results. But

I wish you could get it out. New York would
be the first place. Have you got a good port
captain in New York?

Waesche:

Yes, Baylis.

H.M.Jr:

Find out what the hell the trouble is.

Gaston:

Harry Durning can probably be helpful in
those things.

H.M.Jr:

And - of course, the trouble may be that

they go from New York up to Halifax and lay
over up there. You may have to send a man

up to Halifax to find out.
Waesche:

Of course, we do know that there is a delay

in Halifax, in that they congregate there

and form the convoy, and they hold them there

until some of the ships get together to form
the convoy.

H.M.Jr:

How long do they keep them there?

Waesche:

The time varies. They keep them until they
get the number of ships to make up the convoy,
and the time varies.

H.M.Jr:

Could you find out who runs the convoys,

who controls them, makes them up?
Waesche:

I think the British Shipping Minister in
New York has a lot to do with it.

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H.M.Jr:

The man in Canada is the C.P.R. Sir Edward
Behy has it in Canada, and he controls

Montreal and Halifax. But can you get into

it and get a picture fairly fast?

Gaston:

Oh yes. We can get a preliminary picture

H.M.Jr:

I would like something pretty fast, kind
of an over-all report. They might be

on Halifax probably from this Customs man
we have got up there on the C.P.R. docks.

clearing the harbors in New York very quickly.
Then they go up and lay around in Halifax
for God knows how long. I don't know whether
they accumulate ships for convoy for Bermuda
or not.

Waesche:

That is right, I don't know.

H.M.Jr:

And how many ships are they sending down to

Africa? I mean, the first thing is how long

are they delayed in American harbors, United

States harbors. Let's get that first.

Waesche:

Then follow them right through.

H.M.Jr:

Let's get that first, how long are they
here?

Gaston:

Yes. There is some stuff going from the
Gulf, too.

H.M.Jr:

But how long - what is the average length
in number of days from the time a British
flag ship comes in until she turns around

and departs. That oughtn't to take terribly

long) where is the delay?
Gaston:

Ships in the British trade, that includes
some Norwegian ships and Dutch.

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5H.M.Jr:

Well, will you get on it?

Waesche:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

You ought to have something for me tomorrow

morning.
Waesche:

I think we can give you a preliminary report

tomorrow morning.
H.M.Jr:

You ought to have something for me.

Gaston:

A preliminary report this afternoon on it.
Then they can get into trying to break the
jam after that.

H.M.Jr:

I have heard nothing from the President. I
gave him this last letter. You have heard
nothing from the President either?

Waesche:

No.

H.M.Jr:

Or from the English?

Gaston:

No.

H.M.Jr:

O.K., gents, thank you.

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March 10, 1941
9:30 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Mr. Bell
Present:

Mr. Haas
Mr. Young
Mr. Gaston
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Graves
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Pehle

Mr. Wiley

Mr. Cochran

Mrs. Klotz
Mr. White
Mr. Foley

H.M.Jr:

Schwarz, just as a matter of interest,

see where George Morris says that Morgenthau

is opposed to the aid to farmers. I mean,
I am just curious to see if that comes
out of the Department of Agriculture. I
don't think Mr. Wickard would say that.
Schwarz:

I will talk to them.

H.M.Jr:

Herbert, do we or don't we?

Gaston:

We have no obligation.

H.M.Jr:

On Wallace, you mean?

Gaston:

Yes.

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2H.M.Jr:

But does he want it?

Gaston:

Not himself, but a group of his intimate
friends are terribly worried about the

H.M.Jr:

Does he want it?

Gaston:

He does not.

H.M.Jr:

Then I would forget about it.

Gaston:

So Dave Coyle says. He wants to be left
alone. They are worried about the fact

that he wanders around alone and won't be

cautious and he won't accept any protection.
H.M.Jr:

Did you send somebody to see Wallace?

Gaston:

No, I didn't.

H.M.Jr:

I would suggest that you do have Chief

Wilson call on him and tell him that if
he would care to accept protection, we

would be very glad to give it to him. Will
you do that?

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

I would let Wilson call on him and say if

he wants protection, we would be glad to

give it to him.

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

How many men have we got looking after

Princess Martha and her children? I don't
know how many we have got. We have got at
least three, and maybe more.
Sullivan:

I saw one of them on the street the other

day, and he says it is a great job. She

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H.M.Jr:

Who said that?

Sullivan:

One of the guards who used to be here. Our
cars were parked together at a traffic

light.

H.M.Jr:

We ought to look after Henry Wallace, too.

Gaston:

A young lady in Stimson's office said that
she had put that letter in the mail Saturday
night, but she is sending another one over
by messenger.

H.M.Jr:

O.K. Anything else?

Gaston:

No, I haven't anything else.

H.M.Jr:

John?

Sullivan:

I don't whink we have a meeting of the minds

on this tax returns of people in the foreign
diplomatic service, because the facts aren't

at all what you indicated. Here is a memorandum

on it. Here are the returns of all -H.M.Jr:

Let's you and I sit down on it some time.
Shall we?

Sullivan:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

You ask for an appointment, and I will sit

down with you some time.
Sullivan:

Yes, sir. That is all.

H.M.Jr:

That is all you have?

Sullivan:

The boys are working getting ready for

Gulick and getting out all of the studies

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that have been made in the last five years.
H.M.Jr:

Before he comes down, could I sit down with

you and --

Sullivan:

Yes, I would like very much to.

H.M.Jr:

And have a sort of a preview.

Sullivan:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to go to school on that.
(Mr. Bell and Mr. Foley entered the conference.)

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

And when are you going to sit down on the

bill?

Well, I thought tomorrow - these fellows are
busy on the House. I thought just as soon as
this Lend-Lease got through the House that
I would get - ask them - I wish you would be

thinking, should we simply do it with the

House side or should we try to get the House
and the Senate?

Sullivan:

I think you and I should have a pretty
definite idea of what we want to do, and

I think it should be cleared with the
President before we talk with them.

H.M.Jr:

He won't talk about it this week.

Sullivan:

He won't?

H.M.Jr:

I don't want to talk to him about it. I

would rather talk with you and then with
them.

Sullivan:

Then I think you and I had better get
together.

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-5H.M.Jr:

Well, here is Lend-Lease this morning and
English finances tomorrow morning. How
soon are you ready?

Sullivan:

I will be ready whenever you are.

H.M.Jr:

Are you sure?

Sullivan:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Three o'clock tomorrow.

Sullivan:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Sullivan:

I think you would want some others in on

that, too.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you fix it up. You arrange for
whoever you want, will you?

Sullivan:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Cochran:

After our meeting Saturday morning, I
telephoned Mr. Gifford and that suggestion
was agreeable to him, and I got to Frank;
and he is having a group come down today

to talk it over. The British promised that
supplementary statement today.
H.M.Jr:

I spoke to Frank last night. He was going
to give me a ring before my four o'clock

press conference. He is having those men
come down this afternoon. He said he would
let me know what happened.

Cochran:

I told Mr. Gifford that the group would not

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be set up without consulting with him
further, that we would talk with him now.
H.M.Jr:

Exploratory?

Cochran:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

What else?

Cochran:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

Would you some time before lunch go over
to the State Department and have a look-see
at the cables?

Cochran:

And see --

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Pehle:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Are you sort of following this correspondence

between Hoover, President Hoover and the
English?
Pehle:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Ferdie?

Kuhn:

I have nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Philip?

Young:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

George? Are you feeling all right again?

Haas:

Yes, I am feeling better this morning,
thank you, Mr. Secretary.

(Handing
reports
want
to see
this? to Secretary) Did you

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7H.M.Jr:

That is right, until you hear from Knudsen
or Meigs. Have you heard from either of
them?

Haas:

Neither of them.

H.M.Jr:

I wonder if Allison will ever really begin
to manufacture engines?

Haas:

They will probably have a slow-down again
when they switch over, you see.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. I might as well get this off my desk.

Ferdie, this is something - somebody told
me that Wilson's address on Lincoln, they
thought there might be something you could
pick out of there for some slogans.
Kuhn:

Oh, I didn't know what you wanted that for.

H.M.Jr:

For Defense Savings Bonds.

Kuhn:

Thank you.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else, George?

Haas:

I have nothing else.

H.M.Jr:

Harry?

White:

Nothing.

Schwarz:

The UP in the morning ticker has a weekend

story saying Treasury officials predicted that
1940 incomes would return three billion in

taxes, and I asked Knowlton. I said I didn't

think we had any such estimates. He said,
"Well, we got it out of the Budget and we
forgot that the Budget and Treasury weren't
the same any more."

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-8H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Schwarz:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

Harold? What contracts are you letting
today?

Graves:

We are advertising today for the albums,
and we are trying also to get our copy

to - finished for these booklets for

banks and post offices.

I think we are going to do that, possibly
at the Government printing office this
time. We will take out the color and
so on.

H.M.Jr:

And how many stamps is the Post Office
going to order?

Graves:

Well, that is under discussion with them
now.

We are thinking of 30 million of these
albums, and the post offices -H.M.Jr:

Each album holds how many?

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-9Graves:

Twenty-five fifty in dollar stamps. Each album
would hole 75 and five dollar stamps, fifteen.

H.M.Jr:

What would be the total?

Graves:

Well, the 25-cent stamp a 25-dollar bond and the
50-cent a 50-dollar bond and the 75-cent stamp

a wea to100that
Office us
were

low, dollar estimate 75-dollar and bond. for have bond stamps, The and got Post and one-dollar study they gave stamp with incredibly their a them

again. Of course, there is no particular hurry

about getting the Post Office Department esti-

mates for stamps because we are manufacturing-H.M.Jr:

Have you started?

Graves:

Yes, they are engraving now.

H.M.Jr:

Anything else?

Graves:

That is all.

Bell:

Are you going to the Government Printing Office

for speed, is that the idea?

Graves:

We will when--

Bell:

Cutting out the colors for speed?

Graves:

We will go there only in case we can get assured
delivery on time, Dan, but the reason why we
have not gone there before is the colors that
have been in these--

Bell:
Graves:

Yes, I realize that, and I wondered if you were
cutting out the colors for speed.
No.

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- 10 Bell:

You don't like them?

Graves:

We figure that for information books for

people who come to the counter at a bank or
people who come to the counter at a post office and make inquiry about these bonds, we
can eliminate the color, simplify the circular.

H.M.Jr:

I made a criticism of the American eagle push-

ing a flag along, and Harold said it was too

late. I think It is unfair to the American
eagles.

Graves:

We are just bond to go ahead not later than

the next day or two and advertise. I was
afraid that we might get involved in delay.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Bell:

I have this list I would like to go over with
you right after this meeting if I can have two
minutes.

H.M.Jr:

I will give it to you. You want two minutes

after this meeting?
Bell:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

So do I. What have you got?

Thompson:

Elmer Irey has been anxious for sometime to get

a new badge. That is a design for it. Mr.

Gaston thinks the stars in the border should be
taken out and put in the center.

H.M.Jr:

Why couldn't you do this? I have got an idea.
Some people around the Treasury wanted some

sort of coordination, you know, which I have

always
badge-- been against. Why couldn't you have one

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- 11 Gaston:

I thought you were for coordination. I think
you started that. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

What I was just thinking, if you were going to
change it, why couldn't you have a Treasury
Department Intelligence Service and then just
somewhere, Narcotics or Revenue or Secret

Service?
Thompson:

Have them all alike but--

Gaston:

That is a good idea.

H.M.Jr:

So you know this is a Treasury man coming in,

but that is the Bureau he belongs to. Treasury

Department Intelligence or something, you see,

and then just - then just in one place would
be the word "Narcotics," or "Secret Service."
Gaston:

What is the matter with that badge for that

purpose, "Treasury Department, United States,"

then they have "Narcotics." All you need
there would be "Intelligence Unit," or whatever

it is.
H.M.Jr:

I think so.

Gaston:

I kind of like the eagle on top. Don't you?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Well, here under here would be "Internal Reve-

nue, Intelligence, or just the word "Internal

Revenue." They don't need "Intelligence."

"Internal Revenue, the Treasury Department,

United States." If you could get in a Treasury
seal, it would make that "United States" stand

out. I like the "United States" standing out,

but how about in the background, instead of the
eagle, having a Treasury seal? I mean the
Treasury seal in the background.

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- 12 Thompson:

Do
like the round one better than you do this
otheryou
one?

H.M.Jr:

Well, it is a question of - that on top, is that
going to catch on anything? It would be sort
of a nuisance.

Gaston:

I don't care too much for that. It looks to
much like an ordinary police department badge
with an eagle on top.

H.M.Jr:

But if you just had the Treasury Department with
the Treasury seal in the background and the

names under here.

Where is my Treasury seal?
Bell:

No Treasury seals. (Laughter)

Gaston:

I like the thing, if you could get the United

States - have the Treasury seal instead of the
eagle.

H.M.Jr:

I would like the Treasury seal in the background.
"Treasury Department, " and then just stick the

"United States" right over that. That is what

I would suggest. Then everybody would have the
same. Gaston and Harold Graves won't like this

but... (Laughter)
Thompson:

H.M.Jr:
Thompson:

H.M.Jr:

Thompson:

I think that is a darn good idea.
We get an idea once in a while.

I will have a design made.
I didn't get anywhere with my eagle pushing a
flag. Maybe I will get somewhere on this.
Coast Guard have a Second Lieutenant in the
Reserves who is a cryptanalyst. They need him

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like to get a deferment for him, putting him
in the Reserve Officers' pool.
H.M.Jr:

Why, if he is in the Coast Guard?

Thompson:

He is a civilian officer, but he is a lieutenant
in the Reserve Corps.

H.M.Jr:

Why don't they put him in the Coast Guard Reserve?

Thompson:

He has been a civilian officer for sometime.

H.M.Jr:

O.K.

Thompson:

If you approve, I will send it over. I think
it is a good case. That is all I have.

H.M.Jr:

You (Foley) came in since we started?

Foley:

I came in with Dan. I was in Dan's office talk-

ing about the meeting yesterday.
H.M.Jr:

Bell:

Is that right? (Laughter)
Yes, I had him in there at a quarter of nine.

Gaston:

Here is the Stimson-Hoover thing.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, nothing else?

Foley:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

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COP

Y

BRITISH EMBASSY.

WASHINGTON, D. c.

March 10, 1941.

MOST URGENT - BY HAND

Dear Cochran,

I enclose the data regarding our
existing contracts for which you asked on
Saturday.

Yours sincerely,

(Signed) E. W. Playfair

M. Merle Cochran, Esq.,

U.S. Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

da

Received, Mash F.M. 11.1941

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0PY
EXISTING CONTRACTS

A. Statistical Data.

Table I below gives estimates of all the contracts of the British
Purchasing Missions as of February 28.

Table II, compiled on the same lines as Table I, gives figures for
all contracts whose total value is over $1,000,000, as of February 15.
Table I covers several thousand contracts, many of them very small,

and has been compiled statistically; it is a close estimate, but not
accurate to the last cent. Table II, on the other hand, has been compiled

from the actual contracts, and, subject to any error, is exact. The full
data on which it is based is contained in Exhibit A, attached to this note.
The contracts covered by Table II are 242 in number, and cover nearly

90% of the outstanding value of all the contracts.

Exhibit B gives fuller details regarding those contracts where the
payments due after February 15 plus the advances standing to the credit of
the British Government exceed $10,000,000. These contracts, 50 in number,

cover about 70% of the outstanding value of all the contracts.
Table III gives estimates of the periods within which the payments
remaining to be made on all the contracts fall due.

B. The application of these data.
Assuming that it is possible simply to assign contracts as they stand
from the British Government to the U. S. Government, the liability which
the U. S. Government would assume would be the original value of the contract

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less the value of deliveries already made (Item 3 of Tables I and II). But
when this resulted in the repayment to the British Government of any advances
made by the French (Item 4), these would have to be paid to the State of

France. Such payment is made by placing dollars to the credit of the State
of France in an account at the Bank of Canada. France cannot withdraw such

funds, but they are lost to the United Kingdom, so that the benefit which
the British Government would receive from the assignment to the United States

would be reduced by that amount (Item 5). This benefit would consist of (a)
the repayment to them of advances made by them standing to their credit with

the contractor, including capital payments (Item 5 (a) ) and (b) the fact

that they would be relieved of future liability on these contracts (Item 5 (b) ).
In practice, the procedure for transferring contracts may not be so
simple as suggested above. If the U. S. Departments concerned find it
necessary to negotiate fresh contracts, leaving us to cancel ours, there
may be cancellation charges, etc., to pay, depending on the terms of each
contract, and the benefit to the British Government may be correspondingly

reduced (of. the case mentioned in paragraph 6 of Section C of this note).
Owing to the amount of work involved, it has not been possible to

compile Tables I and II as of the same date. But it is not thought that the
difference in the outstanding value of the contracts between February 15

and February 28 will be great, since increases in the total value of contracts
placed during that period are offset by the value of deliveries received.
C. Assignment Negotiations now in train.

The following paragraphs give details of the negotiations for transfer
of contracts presently in train. The outstanding value of those contracts
is shown in Table IV.

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-31. Curties-Wright Corporation.
The R.F.C. has examined this property and some negotiations have com-

menced. However, the condition of the title and other complications make

it dcubtful that a sale can be concluded with R.F.C.
2. General Motors Corporation.

This has been mentioned to the R.F.C. as a possible case, but the
British Purchasing Missions had no knowledge of any current negotiations
which R.F.C. may be considering.
3. Tennessee Powder Company.

Arrangements for the sale of the Tennessee Powder Company plant have

reached the stage of agreement in principle and papers may shortly be executed.

The net cash realisation which will be available after completion of plant
(expected to be in May, 1941) will be approximately $20,000,000. after setting

aside certain funds withhold as security for rent, insurance, etc.
4. New Jersey Powder Company.

Negotiations have been commenced for the sale of New Jersey Powder
Company and may proceed after Tennessee Powder Company has been concluded

as a prototype case.
5. Packard Motor Company.

The R.F.C. has stated that this should be a fairly simple matter to conclude in view of their present ownership of other Packard properties, but
negotiations have not progressed.

6. Colt's Patent Fire Arms Company.

This and the other three machine gun contracts that follow are in an
advanced state of negotiation on the following lines:

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(a) The Army Ordnance Department is negotiating now contracts

for the product which, when concluded will leave the British
Purchasing Commission free to negotiate cancellation of the

existing product contracts. The cash recovery on cancellation
will be less than the advance product payments owing to
difference in price between old and new contracts, disappearance

of royalty payments in new contracts and other cancellation
charges to be settled between British Purchasing Commission
and the suppliers.

(b) The R.F.C. is concurrently negotiating for the purchase of the

plant facilities. The realization will be less than the value
of the capital advance due to the elimination of special tools,
personnel training cost and other intangible items, and in any
event payment will not occur until after each plant has been

completed in the latter half of 1941.
The above machine gun negotiations involve numerous complications remain-

ing to be resolved. It may not be possible to finalise the contracts until
some time in April.

7. Oerlikon Gun Subcontracts.
The British Purchasing Commission has proceeded to execute certain sub-

contracts for the manufacture of parts for the Oerlikon gun. The United
States Navy is carrying on negotiations with the principal supplier to whom

these subcontracts are to furnish certain parts. It is contemplated that
these subcontracts will be taken over by the United States Navy after the
basic contract has been concluded.
Washington

March 10, 1941.

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TABLE I

Total outstanding advances & estimated future payments as

of February 28, 1941, on all existing contracts.

(In millions of U. S. dollars)
Capital
1.

Original value of British commitments

Product

Total

2840

3020

795

795

180

2045

2225

15

65

80

165

1980

2145

180

for capital + product. (including British
liability to French state for capital and
advances).

Less 2.

Value of product deliveries (including pro
rata repayment by British of French
advances).

3.

Total capital commitment plus value of
undelivered product (including balance

of British liability to French state for
capital + advance).

Less 4.

Balance of British liability to French
state for capital and advances.

5.

Net British commitment for capital + undelivered product (after deduction of

British liability to French state for
capital + advance).

Vis

(a) Payments made by British on account

155

660

815

1320

1330

of capital and undelivered product.

(b) Payments due to be made by British on
account of capital and undelivered
product.

10

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TABLE II

Total outstanding advances & estimated future payments, as of
February 15, 1941, on all existing contracts whose value is over $1,000,000

(in millions of U.S. dollars)

1.

Capital

Product

Total

167.2

2,242.0

2,409.2

439.8

439.8

167.2

1,802.2

1,969.4

0.4

52.7

53.1

166.8

1,749.5

1,916.3

(a) Payments made by British on account

150.1

587.4

737.5

(b) Payments due to be made by British
on account of capital and undelivered product.

16.7

1,162.1

1,178.8

Original value of British commitments

for capital + product (including British
liability to French state for capital

and advances).

Less 2.

Value of product deliveries (including
pro rata repayment by British of French
advances).

3.

Total capital commitment plus value of
undelivered product (including balance

of British liability to French state

for capital + advance).
Less 4.

Balance of British liability to French
state for capital and advances.

5.

Net British commitment for capital +
undelivered product (after deduction of

British liability to French state for
capital .advance.)

Vis

of capital and undelivered product.

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TABLE III

Estimate of suns payable by the British Purchasing Missions in
respect of all outstanding contracts, as of February 28, 1941.

( In millions of United States dollars )
March

165

April

135

May

130

June

130

July - August

220

September - December

370

January - August 1942

265

September - December 1942

25

1440

Note: The total of $1440 millions is composed of the figure of 01330
millions shown under heading 5(b) of Table I, plus $30 millions outstanding reimbursement due to the French State as of February 28, 1941

*Plus $80 millions shown under heading 4 of Table I

BRITISH CONTRACTS, THE TRANSFER OF WHICH HAS BEEN
UNDER DISCUSSION

As at February 15. 1941
Contract
Number

1-194

Supplier

Material

Curtiss-Wright Corp., R2600A Engines

New York, N. Y.
A-196

A-502

General
New
York, Motors
N. Y.

Capital

Advances Outstanding

14,450,700.00

Product

32,261,130.48

Tennessee Powder Co., Plant Expansion 25,279,000.00

New Jersey Powder Co., Plant Expansion 9,827,730.45

Kenvil, N. J.
1-787

46,711,830.48

Corp., Allison Engines 6,393,113.50 30,427,500.00 36,820,613.50

Packard Motor Co.,

Detroit, Mich.

Rolls Royce

Merlin -

Total of advances

Due

Outstanding and
Balance Due

31,412,071.47

78,123,901.95

23,971,535.07

60,792,148.57

-

25,279,000.00

215,000.00

25,494,000.00

-

9,827,730.45

738,269.55

10,566,000.00

Memphis, Tenn.
A-633

Total

Balance

24,900,000.00 19,549,904.56 44,449,904.56 90,450,095.44 134,900,000.00

XX Engines
A-844

Colt's Patent Fire
Arms Meg.Co.,

Aircraft Machine 8,914,085.00 3,883,335.78 12,797,420.78 4,628,753.68 17,426,174.46

Guns

Hartford, Conn.

A-1265 Kelsey-Hayes
Aircraft Machine 6,100,000.00 2,376,875.96 8,476,875.96
Guns
Detroit, Mich. Wheel Co.
A-1559 High Standard Mfg.Co., Machine Guns
Buffalo Arms Co.,

Buffalo, N. Y.

A-2795 American-Oerlikon
Gayda Corp.Subcontracts

A

17,445,577.79

2,237,259.00

5,560,259.00

5,963,853.37

11,524,112.37

ircraft Machine 5,852,040.00 1,995,317.50

7,847,357.50

4,935,952.50

12,783,310.10

1,488,060.00

4,819,500.00

6,307,560.00

New Haven, Conn.
A-1600

3,323,000.00

8,968,701.83

Guns

Cerlikon Gun

285,000.00

1,203,060.00

TOTAL 105,324,668.95 93,934,383.28 199,259,052.23 176,103,733.01 375,362,784.24

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senf
March 10, 1941.

MEMORANDUM

TO:

Mrs. Klotz

FROM: Mr. Gaston

With reference to the attached letter, Congressman Hunter
came in to see the Secretary at 10:30 this morning and I was

present at the Secretary's request. Mr. Hunter recited some
of the circumstances of the political situation in Ohio and
expressed the view that he ought to have the privilege of naming
the Collector of Internal Revenue at Toledo. The Secretary
told him that he could not undertake to decide these political
arguments but that he would cheerfully carry out any directions
given him by the White House. There seems to me to be no

need of any other reply to the letter. Mr. Hunter wrote me
practically the same letter, with the same enclosures, which I
have in our personnel file.

Mrs

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ONYDER
DECRETARY

JOHN F. HUNTER
- DISTRICT One

GERTRUDE K. CARROLL

Congress of the United States

ABET. SECRETARY

House of Representatives

DEPARTMENTS

ELECTION OF Vice PRESIDENT,
REPRESENTATIVES - CONGRESS

- WEIGHTS AND MEASURES

Washington, D.C.

DISTRICT of COLUMBIA

March

seventh
1941

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Morgenthau:

Anticipating that a decision is near on the appointment of
a Collector of Internal Revenue in the Toledo(Ohio) office, it is
my desire to call your attention to certain facts which I consider
pertinent.

1. Mr. Ralph O. Snyder, whom I have indorsed, was first
proposed in August, 1940, by Senator Vic Donahey. At that time
there was some publicity in the newspapers of Ohio; and I am
informed that many letters were sent to the Senator, expressing
approval of his choice. It is not probable that many letters from
the district were sent to any other source, as it was considered by
Democrats of the district that the Senator's recommendation would be
followed.

Later, when Ohio newspapers carried stories that there was
a contest and that Frazier Reams had some backing for the position,
the newspapers all stated that the decision would be made by
Honorable Edward J. Flynn, Chairman of the Democratic National
Committee.

I have been informed that a great amount of mail has reached
Mr. Flynn's office from persons in Ohio who urged Mr. Snyder's
appointment. Copies of some of these letters have been forwarded
to me.

There is one letter written by Tom Stahl, Ottawa County
Chairman, American Legion, and Chairman of the Democratic War

Veterans of Ottawa County, which I would particularly like you to
read as it conveys a plain indication of where some of the opposition to Mr. Snyder is arising.

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Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

-2-

March 7, 1941

There is another letter in Mr. Flynn's files of which I have
no copy but which I am sure you can obtain from Mr. Flynn's office.
This letter was written by Mr. O. L. Teagarden, Chairman of the
Ottawa County Democratic Committee, in which he tells of requesting

Mr. Reams to take part in the recent political campaign and of Mr.
Reams refusal to speak for the President. I am informed of this
letter by Mr. Charles Scherer, Chairman of the Ottawa County Democratic Campaign Headquarters, who also wrote Mr. Flynn.

I would like to request that letters in Mr. Flynn's file be

secured and given consideration by your Department.

2. I am recommending Mr. Snyder because I believe his
experience, training and understanding of the public will make him
an outstanding Collector if he is appointed.

I have the utmost respect for Mr. Reams, but I do not
consider legal training alone makes him an outstanding candidate for
the position of Collector.
From the political viewpoint alone, these angles must be
considered: Mr. Snyder has been extremely active for the Democratic
party during recent years; he is known and respected throughout the
entire Northwestern Ohio.

Mr. Snyder's wife, Babette, was organizer of RooseveltWallace clubs in that district during the 1940 campaign.

On the other hand, Mr. Reams has taken no part in politics
in the last four years-even refusing to address meetings in behalf
of the President during the 1940 campaign, as attested by letters

in Mr. Flynn's possession.

We will concede that he was active prior to 1936. However,
any obligation incurred on behalf of the Party has already been paid
many times over. In the first place, Mr. Reams was given a license
for a radio station of which he is now president and general manager.
His law partner has been given a United States commissionership.

His law office also has had a large portion of the legal work of the

Home Owners' Loan Corporation and other Federal agencies and depart-

ments in the city of Toledo. This fact can easily be ascertained.

Under the circumstances, any claim that Mr. Reams has earned further

"pay" at the hands of the Administration seems to be greatly

exaggerated.

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Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

-3-

March 7, 1941

3. For more than seven years, while the late Charles
Graves was Collector in the Toledo office, it was common knowledge

that Mr. Graves spent less than a day a week in the office or on
Collector's duties, devoting his time to his own law business and
other interests. In making my recommendation of Mr. Snyder, I
recommended a capable man who I knew would be prepared to devote

full time to this important position.

The opposition candidate is a very busy member of a law
firm handling a great deal of Federal business, and is president
and active in the management of a radio station. I am sure that
you have no desire to name men to important positions who are

prepared to devote very little of their time to the duties of the
office.

I have presented these few points as briefly as possible
in order to clarify a situation that has been considerably confused

by inter-party difficulties in Ohio. I know you will give them
your personal consideration.

With best personal wishes, I am,
Very truly yours,

JFH:SC

It Hunter

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Oak Harber, Ohio, Jan. 18, 1941
Hen. Edward J. Flynn,
Democratic National Committee,
Mayflower Hotel,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Flynn:

In connection with the appointment of Collector
of Internal Revenue, Telede, Ohio, at a meeting of
our committee held last evening, they endorsed Mr. Ralph
Snyder of Telede and requested me to advise you of their

action. This, of course, is in further confirmation of

the endorsement of Mr. Snyder by the writer, about last

August 15th, 1940.

Our committee is of the opinion in view of Mr. Snyder's
endorsement by our congressman, Home John Hunter, and of

our Congressman at Large Hon. Stephen Young, Cleveland, Ohio,

that their recommendati should be followed and we request
your favorable consideration of this gentleman.

We believe that it is time that the leaders of the two
factions in Ohio realize the necessity of harmony in the
party, and we believe that for the best interest of the
Democratic Rerty in Ohio, both Mr. Sawyer and Mr. Bittinger
should resign and someone be named who can secure the

support of all.
Please accept the writers best wishes

Yours very truly
(Signed) 0. L. Tegarden

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WESTERN UNION TELE GRAM

1940 Aug 19

Celina, Ohio

Hon Vic Denahey US Senator

Mercer County Executive Committee endorses Ralph Snyder

for Internal Revenue Collector

Clyde Rutledge, county chairman

WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM

1940 Nov 27

Defiance, Honorable Ohio John Hunter of House of Reps

Dear Mr. Hunter We \recommend Ralph 0. Snyder of Teledo for
appointment as Internal Revenue Collector at Teledo, Ohio.
Dan Batt, chairman Defiance County Executive Com.
Richard Laudick, chairman Putnam County Executive Com.

William Mentser, chairman Paulding County Executive Com.

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WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM

Van Wert, Ohio
1940 Aug 15

Senator Vic Denahey
Washington, D. C.

Van Wert County Committee recommends appointment Ralph

Snyder to succeed Graves, Internal Revenue Collector.

C. A. Springer, chairman

WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM

1940 Aug 15

Wapakoneta, Ohio

Hon. A V Donahey, Senator

I hereby enderse Balan O. Snyder of Teledo to position

collector of internal revenue Teledo district to succeed
Charles Grayes deceased.

y. P. Killian, chairman Auglaise County
Democratic Executive Committee

WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM

1940 Aug 17

Sidney, Ohio
Senator Vic Denahey

Our endorsement and recommendation of Ralph Snyder for

Collector Internal Revenue office Tenth District Ohio
Lee J. McFarland, chairman (Shelby County)
Democratic Committee

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WESTERN

UNION

1940 Aug 15
Hon. Vio Denahey

Senate Office Bldg. Washington, D. C.

Endorse Ralph Snyder Teledo to be collector of Internal
Revenue to succeed Charles Graves. Your assistance

his behalf will be appreciated.

A. L. Teagarden, chairman Ottawa County
Democratic Central Committee

>

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THE DARK COUNTY

DEMOCRATIC CENTRAL-EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
GREENVILLE, OHIO

August 16, 1940

The Hon. Vic Donahey,
Washington, D. C.

Dear sir:

We the undersigned officers of the
Darke County Central Executive Committee
appointed to make indorsements for vacancies
hereby recemend and endorse Ralph Snyder to

fill vacancy caused by the death of Chas.
Graves, the position of Internal Revenue
Collector.

Chairman

B.B. MoGriff

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September 19, 1940

Honorable Franklin D. Roosevelt
The President of the United States
Washington, D.C.

My dear Mr. President:
On August 23rd, I suggested the name

of Mr. Ralph O. Snyder of Teledo, Ohio, to you

for the vacancy exisiting in the Toledo office
of Collector of Internal Revenue. The death of

Honorable Charles H. Graves left this post vacant

and it is of importance to the political well

being of Northwestern Ohio that the Rest be filled.
Commissioner Helvering advises me your

full approval is awaited in this connection and
that a tentative investigation had been made of
Mr. Snyder. Snyder was the Secretary of Congress-

man John Fa Hunter and 18 is vital to the interests
of Congressman Hunter the only democratic Repre-

sentative in Congress overing all the northwest

districts of thir some counties, and as well as

to Ohio that determination be reached before election.
It is hoped configmation might be had before
adjournment.

Would you please inquire into this matter
and advise me the present status in order to favor
Mr. Hunter in this regard.
With sincere regards and best wishes,

I remain

Sincerely yours,
Vic Donahey

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COPY

THE ALLEN COUNTY DEMOCRATIC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE

Headquarters 527 Dominion Building
Lima, Ohio
August 17, 1940

Hon. Vic Donahey,

United States Senate
Washington, D. C.
Dear Senator Denahey:

A vacancy has occurred in the office of the Collector
of Internal Revenue of the Telede District. A fine
capable Democrat by the name of Ralph Snyder who is
secretary to Congressman Hunter is a candidate for
this position.

I want to assure you that if you have any doubts as

to Mr. Snyder's ability and his integrity I have known
him for a good many years and fehl that he is well
qualified to hold this position. As State Central
Committeeman from the Fourth District and as Chairman

of Allen County it gives me great pleasure to endorse
Mr. Snyder.

with kindest regards, I am

Yours very truly
(Signed) Francis W. Durbin
Chairman

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COPY

DEMOCRATIC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
WOOD COUNTY, OHIO

September 10th, 1940

Hon. Vis Denahey,

U.S. Senator-Ohio,
Washington, D.C.
My Dear Senator:

My attention has been directed to

a vacancy that exists in the office of Collector

of Internal Revenue, 10th District with Headquarters
in Teledo, Ohio. This vacancy was caused by the recent
death of Mr. Graves.

In this connection it is my pleasure to
recommend the name of Mr. Ralph Snyder, Telede, Ohio

for consideration as appointment for this position.
Mr. Snyder is well qualified to perform the duties
required and his past connections present him as an
asset to the position.
Thanking you in advance for any consideration
extended to Mr. Snyder, I remain

Sincerely Yours,
(Signed) Theodore R. Black
Chairman, Wood County DEC

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ALLIED INSULATING &
BUILDING CO. INC.
TOLEDO, OHIO

January 17, 1941

(COP)
(COPY)

Hon. Edward J. Flynn, Chairman,
Democratic National Committee,
Mayflower Hetel,
Washington, D. C.
Dear sir:

May I, as a business man and war veteran, endorse the
appointment of Mr. Ralph Snyder as Collector of Internal
Revenue for the 10th Ohio District,
I have known and respected Mr. Snyder for the Past
15 years, both as a newspaper man and as secretary to the Hon.
John F. Hunter, Congressman from my home district and state of
Ohio.

Mr. Snyder has always been unfailing in his duties

to the public of this district and has brought credit and
prestige to the Democratic party of this district and state.
As a life long Democrat, I belie ve it is my duty
to endorse this appointment of an able and efficient

Democratic official.

Very truly yours
(signed) DENNIS G. BURNS

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COPY

March 4, 1941

Mr. Edward J. Flynn,
Chairman

Democratic National Committee,
Mayflower Hotel
Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Flynn:

I am writing to you with the hope that I may be able to
give you some information relative to the fight that has come
up between Ralph Snyder and Fraser Reams for the Collector of
Internal Revenueship at Telede, Ohio.
Both Mr. Reams and Mr. Snyder are personal friends of
mine, but I feel that because of the backing that Mr. Reams

has that he should not be entitled to this position, and here
is why I say this.

I am enclosing herewith a letter which I will mark Exhibit
A, which I sent out in behalf of John Hunter during the last
campaign. I am also sending you a copy of a letter marked
Exhibit B, sent out by Mr. Hunter's opponent.

This copy, marked Exhibit B, was made from a letter handed
to a voter by Mr. William Zeis, an appointee of Charles Sawyer
and working out of Mr. Sawyer's headquarters, and paid by the
National Democratic Executive committee. These letters were
carried about with him and shown to different veterans, especially
veterans whom Mr. Zeis queried and found to have received one of
the copies of Exhibit A as sent out by no. When Mr. Zeis found
that they had received such a copy, he made a personal attack on
no, alleging that I was a drunkard, and then handed to them a
letter sent out by Mr. White of which I have enclosed a copy as
marked Exhibit B. Now Mr. Zeis at this time was working out of
Mr. Sawyer's Democratic headquarters, was an employe of the
Democratic Executive committee, and receiving Democratic money.

Up until that time I had always been a supporter of Charles
Sawyer, but when I found that he was employing this sert of men

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2

with Democratic funds, I felt as I do new that it was to the
best interest of the Democratic party to get rid of him.
It seens to me that the opposition to Mr. Ralph Snyder is
not because of his personal integrity or lack of integrity, but
is opposition on the part of Mr. Sawyer and his coherts to anything that Congressman Hunter wants.

In my humble opinion, now that Martin L. Davey has taken

himself out of the picture by illness, I feel that if Mr.

Sawyer were taken out of the picture by you, we would again

be able to get together in Ohio and start to go some place.
Sincerely yours
(signed)

Ten D. Stahl
Chairman

Democratic War Veterans of
Ottawa county.

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January 20, 1941

Hon. Edward Flynn, Chairman
Democratic National Committee
Washington, D. C.

Dear Mr. Flynn:

I claim no political influence. I control no votes other than my
own. But I have been a consistent Democratic voter in Lucas County, even
at times when I had to make excuses for candidates offered locally by the

Democratic party. I have done this because of my belief in the party's
principles and on the supposition that the national party would function

more advantageously with local Democratic administrations than otherwise.
I imagine that many more of the 80,000 who noted Democratic in Lucas County
in November felt the same way I did.

We were a bit disgusted with the intex party fight between Sawyer
supporters and Davey supporters which arried on right through the presidential campaign. We were so fed up on some of the local candidates that
we shed no tears over the defeat of two Democratic county cnadidates put
up by the local Quinlivan-Galvar machine. We resented the undercover
attacks by that machine on our nominee for Congress, John Hunter, and we
helped give him a 15,000 majority over his Republican opponent.

We have resented the strong arm method of controlling political jobs
in Lucas County, which has resulted in the rather bitter jest common among
Democrats here that you can't get a political job unless you are related to

a tradition

one of the "Six Families."

The Toledo Blade of Jan. 18th says that there is a dispute over the

appointment of collector of revenue in Toledo. This is no surprise
because Congressman Hunter has never accepted the "Six Family"

and has attempted to make appointments according to merit and qualifications.
We have an outstanding example of this in the appointment of a career man
as postmaster in Toledo and by the appointment of boys to Annapolis and West
Point after competitive examinations. Democratic voters have applauded
these actions and have given Mr. Hunter growing majorities in his elections

as a result, while the "Six Families" lost the only two county offices
contested for in the election two years ago, and two additional county
offices in the last election.

Two years ago John Quinlivan, head man of the "Six Families* of 23 was who a

candidate for ward committeeman. His only opponent was a boy lost
had no job and who had never been active in politics. Quinlivan

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by a two to one vote. Reams was a candidate in the primary for the
nomination for attorney general-and lost. Sawyer was a candidate
for governor-and lost.

Now, Quinlivan, in the best*Six Family" tradition, proposes
Reans, a member of the "Six Families" in good standing, to Sawyer as a

candidate for collector of internal revenue in Toledo. Sawyer, according to the Toledo Bhade has followed tradition and made the recommendation
to you.

Democratic voters of Lucas County are waiting to see whether you
will accept the recommendations of two persons they have repudiated
who are recommending a third person whom the voters also have repudiated.
Or will you follow the recommendations of the Congressman the
Democratic voters have elected to his third term by a greatly increased
majority, and whose popularity is at least partly due to the high caliber
of the appointees he has placed in publie positions.

I am certain many loyal Democratic voters are awaiting your decision
with great interest.

very truly yours,

C

to/ Frank M. Fisher

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ALBERT M. MATTHEWS

Attorney at Law
1217 Sylvania Ave.
Toledo, Ohio
January 17, 1941

Hon. Edw. J. Flynn
Chairman of Democratic National Committee
Mayflower Hotel
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:

I wish to express my earnest-desire as an active
Democrat in Toledo for the past fifteen-years, that you will
appoint Ralph Snyder as the new Collector of Internal Revenue
in Toledo, Ohio.

The fact that he is endorsed by John F. Hunter,
the only Democratic Congressman from the district, should merit

the appointment. The long record in public office and at the polls

has proven John F. Hunter, to be the most popular and outstanding

Democrat in this district of Ohio.

To deprive him of his just right to make the
appointment would be extremely ungrateful and cause much

dissension. I am safe in asserting that the vast majority

of the local Democrats are wholeheartedly behind John F. Hunter
and likewise his candidate Ralph Snyder for Collector of
Internal Revenue in Toledo, Ohio.
Respectfully yours

/s/ Albert M. Matthews

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AMOS L. CONN

Attorney at Law
921 Edison Building
Toledo, Ohio

August 20th, 1940

My dear Senator Donahey:-

May I bear a word of testimony on behalf of
my long time friend, Mr. Ralph H. Snyder Executive Secretary for
Congressman John F. Hunter, of the 9th Districty who is a receptive
candidate for United States Collector at Toledo, there being a vacancy
due to the untimely passing of our autual friend, the Honorable Chas.
H. Graves?

You know Mr. Shyder As well or perhaps better than
I do. However, I would like to say a word of commendation and recommend him to your favor consideration. He is a man of good character
and is well and favorably known in this community. He is clear-headed
and has large capacity (in getting things done. He is conscientious and

a man of strong convictions He has all the vigor and energy of youth,
plus the understanding and wisdom that comes with wide experience and
knowledge of men.

I feel that Mr. Snyder would fill this important
position with honor and dignity, be a credit to the Party, and render
a public service of such high character that will at all times justify
the confidence reposed in him. Your favorable consideration will be

greatly appreciated
Please accept my good wishes and my assurances of
respect and esteem.

Cordially yours,
/8/ A. L. Conn

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THE EAST TOLEDO DEMOCRATIC CLUB

Toledo, Ohio

August 19, 1940

Hon. Vic Donahey

U. S. Senate - Ohio
Washington, D. C.
My dear Senator:

As an organisation of long standing
and which has the esteen of the Democracy of this
County, I beg to inform you that are heartily endorse
the candidacy of one Ralph O. Snyder, able secretary

to Congressman J. F. Hunter for the office of Internal
Revenue Collector this district.
We kindly urge you to place his name
before President Roosevelt.
Thanking you beg to remain,
Sincerely,

/s/ s. J. Saxon
President
SJS:JJH

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CLARENCE J. MATTHEWS

2352 Georgetown Avenue

Toledo, Ohio

January 17, 1941

Edward J. Flynn
Chairman Democratic National Committee
Mayflower Hotel
Washington, D. C.

Dear Mr. Flynn:

Because of the interest and importance of the position of
Internal Revenue Collector in our district and because of
my desire to see harmony in the ranks of the local democratic organization; I as writting you on behalf of the
appointment of Mr. Ralph Snyder for the position of Internal Revenue Collector in our district.
Mr. Ralph Snyder is a democrat respected and well qualified and surely deserving of such consideration.
However, whoever may receive this appointment should

certainly have the unqualified endorsement of the leading

democrat in our district, and that is our 9th District
Congressman, the Honorable John F. Hunter.

It is my sincere hope, and with no anticipation of personal
benefit, that Mr. Ralph Snyder will be recognized and that

Mr. John F. Hunter will be given the credit that is rightfully his from the national organization. I thank you for
this consideration.

Sincerely yours,
/s/ Clarence J. Matthews
CJM:B

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January 15, 1941

Hon. Edward J. Flynn, Chairman
Democratic National Committee
Mayflower Hotel
Washington, D. C.

Dear Mr. Flynn:

As I have been actively engaged in
Democratic Politics for a number of years
I am anxious that those who have labored

earnestly and diligently on behilf of the
party are properly rewarded.
An appointment is soon to be\made to

fill the vacancy caused by the death of
Charles H. Graves, Collector of Internal

Revenue for this district, and would very
much appreciate you considering Ralph Snyder,
Secretary to Congressman John F. Hunter. Mr.
Snyder has been very active in democratic

politics throughout this district for a number
of years, very courteous and highly esteemed
by all who know him.

I feel that the appointment of Ralph
Snyder would not only be a compliment to

himself, but a credit to the Treasury Department.
Very truly yours,
Myron A. Rosentreter
maryfaw

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January 15th, 1941

Hon. Edward J. Flynn,
Chairman

National Democratic Executive Committee,
Mayflower Hotel,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Chairman Flynn:

When the matter of the vacancy in the Office of U.S.
Collector at Toledo, Ohio, came on for consideration (due
to the untimely death of our friend Charles H. Graves),
I lent what influence I had in Favor of Mr. Ralph O. Snyder,
Executive Secretary to Congressman Hunter, as a well qualified
man to assume the duties of this important office.
Intervening events have strengthened my conviction as to

the all-round fitness of Mr. Snyder for this position.

Mr. Snyder is hard working Democrat in all kinds of weather,
and he is a man of recognised ability, wide experience, and what
is perhaps of greater importance, a man of good character. We
believe that your favorable consideration and your recommendation
of Mr. Snyder's appointment will be in the interests of public
service
trict. and tend to strengthen the Democratic Party in this disWith assurances of esteem, we remain

Yours respectfully,
Amos L. Conn
ALC:EVD

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Oak Harbor, Ohio

Dec. 6, 1940

Hon. Chas. Sawyer,
Columbus, Ohio

Dear Mr. Sawyer:-

In view of stories which have appeared in
the newspapers recently regarding Federal patronage in Ohio,

I believe I am justified in assuming that you will have additional influence in Washington from now on.

There is one matter directly concerning our

County in which you might assist us, this in the appoint-

ment of a Revenue Collector for the Tenth cassury District

with headquarters at Toledo. Four months\agovour Committee
endorsed Mr. Ralph O. Snyder of Toledo, Ohio, for this position; he also received the endorsement of /Senator Donahey,
Congressman Hunter and a majority of the County Committees
in the District. For some reason the appointment has never
been made. Congressman Hunter is the only Democratic Con-

gressman elected in the entire Instrict and I believe you
will
see the necessity of backing his endorsements in such
matters.

This appointment has been delayed so long

that I urge you to help bring it to the proper conclusion by
concurring with Congressman Hunter's recommendation without
further delay.

With kindest personal regards, I remain
Yours very truly,
/s/ O. L. Teagarden
Chairman
OLT:A

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JOHN McSWEENEY

Attorney-at-Law
Wooster, Ohio
November 11, 1940

Mr. Ralph Snyder

House of Representatives
Washington, D. C.
Dear Ralph:

I hope that you, Congressman, Mark and all

will realize how deeply grateful 1 am for

your kindnesses to me.

I was very glad that John war reelected,
and for me to share the enchusiastic help
of you friends was a wonderful advantage,

as the returns from Lucas County show.

I hope some day I may show my appreciation.

Most Sincerely your Friend,
/8/ John McSweeney

JMsHMS

(Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in
the 1940 campaign.)

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DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE

Hotel Biltmore

New York City
Roosevelt-Wallace Clubs
Harry M. Washington
Director

October 18th, 1940

Mrs. Babette P. Snyder, Dist.Mgr.,
Roosevelt-Nallace Clubs,
1413 Eleanor St.,
Toledo, Ohio

Dear Mrs. Snyder:

May I thank you for your prompt 00operation with the Roosevelt-Wallace Clubs Division.
I can readily see by the aggressive way
in which you have developed this program, that you will

get splendid results in your Congressional District.

kit of campaign material is being sent
you similar to that which #11 be sent to other Clubs as
soon as their names and addresses together with the name of

the executive officer are received here.

Again thanking you and assuring you that
we will co-operate from here in every way possible, I am
Sincerely yours,
/a/ Harry M. Washington
Harry M. Washington,

Director.

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March 10, 1941
10:45 a.m.

RE AID TO BRITAIN
Present:

Mr. White

Mr. Bell

Mr. Cochran
Mr. Young

Mr. Foley

Mr. Cox
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Gaston

H.M.Jr:

I thought I would start this meeting off I am having lunch with the President today,
so it is fortunate we are having this meeting.
I asked this morning, Cochran to - if he
could by this time give me a summary of the

various things that I did with England, the
with their finances. I didn't give you much
various sources that I had in connection
time. Have you got something?
Cochran:

It is all dictated, and I think it will be
in while this meeting is going on. (See
attachment A.)

H.M.Jr:

Then we will just skip that.

Bell:

I asked Phil to do it, too. I don't know

H.M.Jr:

Have you got something, Phil?

Young:

Danny called me about 10:15 and I dictated a
page just on the general aspect of what our

whether he had a little more time.

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office does down there on foreign purchasing.
(See attachment B.)

H.M.Jr:

This is a result of our eight o'clock meeting,
Dan. Well, when does yours come off your

machine?
Young:

It ought to be in in just a minute, I think.

H.M.Jr:

Then we will skip you.

Young:

H.M.Jr:

It is very general in its nature.
Well, let's wait until it comes in. I per-

sonally explained to Cochran what I wanted.
How soon do you think yours will be in,
Cochran?

Cochran:

It is not awfully short. It will be a couple
or three pages. It will take half an hour.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we will wait. How long?

Cochran:

Twenty minutes. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

When did you finish dictating? Do they
know we are waiting for it?

Cochran:

Yes, but I finished dictating it just before
I came in.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Professor Foley, what have you
got? Is yours off the machine?

Foley:

Well, all we have got is conversation,
Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

All right. (Laughter) Let's have what you
have got.

Foley:

It seemed to us that now that the Byrd amend-

ment is in the bill, that the problem breaks

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are concerned into a deal that would be worked

out for the billion three hundred million
dollars of defense articles on hand, which

could be made available and a deal which could

be worked out in so far as new defense articles
are concerned which will be acquired through
appropriations Congress will make from time
to time to carry out the purposes of the

Lend-Lease Bill.

Starting from there, it seemed to us that

under no circumstances should we be put in

the position of taking over any existing commitments that the British have. In other
words, for us to take them out of any contracts
and agree to pay American manufacturers for
defense articles for which the British have
agreed to pay American manufacturers would

not sit very well with the country.
H.M.Jr:

The fact that I am quiet doesn't mean I

agree. I thought I would let you run through

your story.
Foley:

Yes. And that is substantially what you told
the committees when you appeared before the

committees, and to go back on that might be
unfortunate.
Now, the British have advanced to American

manufacturers for land, for buildings, and

for machine tools, approximately a hundred

and thirty-four million dollars, and that

investment -H.M.Jr:

Have you got that figure?

Cochran:

No, sir.

H.M.Jr:

What is that figure again? The British have
what?

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Foley:

A hundred and thirty-four million dollars.

H.M.Jr:

A hundred and thirty-four represents what?

Foley:

Well, for instance --

H.M.Jr:

You mean this is capital or down payment?

Foley:

Well, let's take the powder plant in Tennessee.
They have made a total payment of $21,459,000.

The land is a million three, the building is
five million eight, the machine tools are
eighteen million.

The land, the buildings and the equipment

are owned by the Tennessee Powder Company,

which is wholly owned by the United Kingdom.
H.M.Jr:

Foley:

But I thought that was one of the ones that
the RFC --

And that is being operated by DuPont. Yes,

this is one of the ones that they are talking
about with the RFC.

Now, they are talking about that with the
RFC as a means of raising additional dollars.
It seems to us that they don't need those
additional dollars in order to pay for commitments that they have already made in the light
of the figures that we got, as analyzed by
Harry yesterday. All of that plant investment
could be made available against 80 much of

the billion three of existing defense articles
that could be made available to the British
at once. In addition to that, we could take
a certain portion of their exports to the
United States of tin and rubber, strategic
materials.

H.M.Jr:

Let's just stop right there. What I have
asked for is this. You are getting down into

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too many details now. You give me a figure

here of a hundred and thirty-four million
dollars, which I take it is down payments
and property and tools and so forth that
they have advanced.

Foley:

Land, buildings and tools.

H.M.Jr:

Now, this breaks into two things. One thing,
I asked whether the Army is negotiating for

part of this.

(Unrecorded telephone conversation.)
H.M.Jr:

Somebody calls up for Harriman a few minutes

ago and said he wanted to talk to me to thank
me for my message, and then when I said I
was busy, "Well, Mr. Harriman is just about

to leave." The Clipper left two hours ago.
I don't understand it.

Foley:

Now, let me just get this thing straight.
I am not going to get tied up with a lot of
figures. The RFC - I wanted the figure, I
may not get it - is negotiating for the purchase of the English -Plant investment in this country.

H.M.Jr:

And how much does that amount to?

Foley:

One hundred and thirty-four million dollars.

H.M.Jr:

Are they negotiating for the whole amount?

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Then of this hundred and thirty-four, the
RFC is trying to buy the whole bunch, is
that right?

Foley:

That is right, take them out of what they

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H.M.Jr:

put into plants in this country.
A hundred thirty-four.

Foley:

A hundred thirty-four.

H.M.Jr:

Is that the figure?

Foley:

That is the figure.

H.M.Jr:

RFC in process of buying one hundred thirty-

four million of English plants, munitions

plants in U.S.A.

Now, of the hundred and thirty-four, have
they concluded anything?

Foley:

I don't believe they have concluded a thing

yet, and they are not taking it up on the
over-all basis. They are taking It up in
connection with specific plants that our
Army or our Navy could use and could reimburse the RFC for it if the RFC took the
British out. It may all add up to the one

hundred thirty-four. That is the over-all
commitment.

H.M.Jr:

Now, the thing that I call the McCloy plan,

where the Army is trying to buy it, like
that Kelsey Wheel thing, is that in the
hundred and thirty-four?

Foley:

No, that is separate.

Cox:

That is mainly a take-out on orders and not
on plant.

H.M.Jr:

How much does that amount to?

Cox:

Well, the total figure on the ones they are
negotiating on now is a little over five
million.

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But I thought it was a couple of hundred
million.

Cox:

No, they are taking the Kelsey Hayes and
one other as a pattern, and they are working

on that with the theory that if they get

that executed they can step it to a much
larger dollar amount of present existing
orders.

H.M.Jr:

How much?

Cox:

I don't think McCloy knows the figure on

H.M.Jr:

Doesn't anybody know? This RFC and then

that.

United States Army. They are buying up

contracts, too, aren't they?

Foley:

Yes, and that is the phase of it we thought
we ought not to go into.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I have asked for this for tomorrow.

I don't know why it is so difficult to get

this. Buying up English munitions contracts

as against plants, is that right?

Cox:

That is right.

Foley:

That is right, supply contracts.

H.M.Jr:

And how much that amounts to you don't know?

Cochran:

Playfair told me he would give us their

figures today on both the RFC and the Army.

H.M.Jr:

Now, Ed, as far as I am concerned, I would

not interfere in this, and I say I don't

want to get bogged down. I don't want to
take the idea of stopping this and leaving this
as a mortgage against - that the powder plant
is an asset against what we are going to

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lend-lease. My answer to you on that is

definitely no. I mean, this is in the

process that they are counting on the money

that they are getting from these things to
use for English specification things, and
they are going to need that.

Foley:

Well, I --

H.M.Jr:

And this has all been agreed on over a period
of months, and I don't care what Harry says.
I

mean, it doesn't -- I have got my - I

have got a definite understanding with these
people that the money that they get - we
went through hell on this thing, and now we
suddenly say no, that we don't want this
thing, and then they come back and say,
"What are we going to use for money to buy

English specification stuff?" I don't know
where Harry gets his ideas. This is a thing it is peanuts, anyway.

White:

Well, apparently there was an agreement among

six of us. It isn't only my idea. We were

discussing it.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I mean it isn't worth discussing. I
am trying to get a formula for several billions,
and here --

Foley:

Well, a billion three, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Well, let's start - no, I want a formula
for billions.

Cox:

Right, but look, can we argue to that point
a minute?

H.M.Jr:

What?

Cox:

To the powder plants in this country? It

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seems-to me that - and I think most of us

were agreed - that on the first disposition

without disclosing what the equipment was
that you were disposing of because it might

be a military secret, you might still want
to say to the public who had been led to

believe that all this stuff is being given
away that as to those things which are
exhaustible like bullets and so forth, we
are getting powder plants and so forth.

H.M.Jr:

Doesn't appeal to me at all. It is chicken

Cox:

I know it is chicken feed, but --

H.M.Jr:

feed.

Well, do you mind? It is part of the other
picture, which I have agreed to, and it
would upset Stimson, it would upset Jones.

It has all been agreed that they should
work on this thing and this should flow into
the pot to be used to give the English money
for new orders to be used for English specifications, you see. We are sort of back-

tracking, and it just isn't worth it.

White:

Does the Lend-Lease Bill exclude the purchase

here of items which satisfy British requirements but not our own? I didn't gather that

it did.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, it does.

White:

Well, the lawyers don't feel that way.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they are wrong. Certainly the Army
feels that way. I mean, to give you an
example, I will give you a specific example.
There was a certain kind of plane, I can't
just think of the name, but maybe Philip
can. Knudsen said to me, "Now, the English

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Young:

Typhoon?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't know, a dive bomber or something.
Let's say type "X". Knudsen has been the most

difficult on this. He says, "Now, we don't
have this plane. They want six different
types. We don't have two types. I am talking
generally." He said, "All right, until we
get it, I, Knudsen, will say that we will for
six months build the kind of plane that the
English want, because we don't have that

kind of a plane and we will try to develop
one ourselves; but for six months I will
make a strictly English type plane because
they need it, you see.

Now, that was crossed - Philip, you were

there on that stuff. Did you hear what I
said? Am I telling it about right?

Young:

Yes, sir. Knudsen did say at one point that

when we first talked about the lend-lease
thing that he visualized placing orders
himself for British type goods.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I know he did in this case.

Foley:

That would be with appropriations that would
be made to carry out the Lease-Lend Bill.

Young:

Out of the theoretically floating part of
the fund as distinguished from a specific

War and Navy appropriation.
Foley:

Yes, but as I see it, Phil, I mean the dis-

cussions we had out at the Secretary's that
day, have been cut across now by the Byrd

amendment, and the Byrd amendment makes it

necessary, and I believe that they have

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acquiesced in it, Harry Hopkins and Smith,

of going down and asking for a lump sum

appropriation to carry out the Lease-Lend
Bill and not appropriations to the Army
and not appropriations to the Navy to carry

out the Lease-Lend Bill. That is the fight

that we made, and we lost when Jimmie Byrnes
agreed to the Byrd amendment, and now they

are going to agree to it in conference.
H.M.Jr:

Well, Ed, I am still groping for the thing
and I don't see that there is very much
difference - I mean, start with a billion
three. Supposing the President says, "I
won't wait until we get an appropriation

bill. I want to act up to a billion three."
Let's just take that.

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And he says, "All right, Henry, now we
want to operate on that."

Foley:

We will make up a consideration that I can
announce to the American public that I am

H.M.Jr:

getting this billion three.
Then he will say, "On the billion three, I

want to give them so many ships and planes

and that and the other."

Foley:

Now, what can we get?

H.M.Jr:

What can we get and what legal form can

it take? That is what I am groping for
today.

Foley:

Well, that is what we are trying to give
you, Mr. Secretary. Now, we thought --

H.M.Jr:

I don't like this RFC stuff, I don't like

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the Army stuff, because I think it has all

been done once, and I don't want to disturb
it because I don't want to disturb Jones,

I don't want to disturb Stimson, and I don't

want to disturb the Purchasing Commission.
Foley:

As far as the Army is concerned, the supply

contracts are not in this at all. This

wouldn't cut across anything the Army was

trying to take them out of, and in so far

as the RFC is concerned, it might be a much
more feasible and much more effective way
of getting the whole thing, because the RFC
may end up by taking only so much of the

stuff as could be disposed of in this country.
A lot of this machine tool stuff they may not

want to touch. They would only want to touch
what they could put a mortgage on.
H.M.Jr:

I don't want to get on that basis either. I
get what you have in mind. Let's just forget
it.

Foley:

We were going to suggest that plus a portion

Bell:

Well, can he lease or lend the material under

Foley:

Yes.

Bell:

Well, what do you have to have? You don't
have to have dollar for dollar, something

of their tin and their rubber exports over
a period of five years.

the billion three?

coming back, do you? It is either a re-

payment in kind or a payment of rentals.
Gaston:

You don't have to have anything but a promise.

Bell:

That is all you have to have, is a promise.

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We thought the problem broke down as to

the billion three, and as to the new stuff
and as to the billion three if you want
to make it all available to them right
now, it might sit better with the American

public to show that you had worked out a
good sound financial arrangement and got
good consideration for so much of those
defense articles on hand as you made available at the present time.

Bell:

I have had a little difficulty --

Foley:

Then so far as the new appropriations are
concerned, you go into the more intangible

values such as the British fleet and such

as what happens if the British go down and

what happens if the British win the war.
Bell:

I have a little difficulty distinguishing
beteeen what goes out under the billion

three and what goes out under the Lend-Lease
appropriations.

Foley:

Well, I don't blame you. The only distinction
that you make is because of the distinction
made by the Byrd amendment. The Congress has

said that ten per cent of the articles pur-

chased with appropriations made prior to the
past bill may be disposed of, and that creates
a difference between articles on hand and

articles to be procured in the future.

Bell:

Only as to limitation.

Foley:

Only as to limitation.

Gaston:

I don't think it will sit better with the

American public that we have made a chiseling
bargain by which we are going to get back
the value of what we are going to give them.

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I think what is going to sit best with the
American public is the impression that we
are doing something to aid England.

Bell:

Cox:

I think so too. I don't think that - what

is coming back amounts to a tinker's damn in
the public mind.

Now wait a minute, you are going to have
pending an appropriation request when these

first dispositions are made, and it seems
to me you ought to state in the financial
terms of the disposition your two policy

things, that is, that it isn't a Shylock

deal by which you squeeze somebody that is

in need, and secondly, that in addition to
the intangible benefits which the United

States gets, it is also as to things which

are exhausted, getting something that is

direct and tangible by which the British
really give up very little except the possibility of dollar exchange; and secondly
that as to the lease-lend end of the thing,
you are going to negotiate that out on both on a governmental basis, that it isn't only
a straight business transaction, that what
you are going to do is look after the benefit
of the United States as to that.

Now, I don't think that on the first disposition
you could have ready a complete financial document which will cover the rest of the billion
three or the appropriations up to "X" billion,
which will come under the new bill, and it
is just a question of what you first present

to the public on the first disposition, on
"A", possibly something concrete, and "B",

something which you possibly can't answer

for this time.

H.M.Jr:

Just hold yourself for a minute. I want to

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ask two things. What is the last position country, do you know? The last figure I
heard was a billion, their contracts. Has

what are the commitments of England in this
anybody got it?

Young:

You mean unpaid balances?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, how much do they owe American contractors?

Young:

It is about a billion three, isn't it, Harry?

White:

Including these additional orders it must
be at least that.

H.M.Jr:

Last I heard it was around a billion.

White:

But they have given about two hundred and

eighty-five million dollars worth of contracts
since January 1, new contracts.

H.M.Jr:

Two hundred and how much?

White:

About two hundred and eighty-five million.

Bell:

That made a billion six to liquidate.

White:

And then they have paid off some of the old.
How much they have paid off I don't know,
but I imagine it must be two hundred million
dollars or something of that order.

H.M.Jr:

Would I be safe to say that it is around

a billion three or a billion four they still
owe us?

White:

I should think so. You might be a hundred

million too high, but it is about a billion
three, I think.
Young:

That is about right.

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H.M.Jr:

Now, let me just come back a minute to

this, which I would like to get. If I

could only get my hands on this. Never
mind what we are going to get in exchange
for the minute. If you want to have some-

thing in mind, let's say we are going - for
a billion three they are going to give us
a mortgage on Bermuda, let's say. I don't
want to run it, but just we have got first
mortgage on Bermuda. What I want to get,
if I can, desperately, Dan, for Bermuda
we are going to give them ten Coast Guard
Cutters, you see.

Now, what kind of piece of paper is that
contract written on? That is what I want
to know. That is what I have been groping

for first. Under this thing there are

going to be ten Coast Guard Cutters and in
exchange for that we are going to take a

mortgage on Bermuda. How would that be
written?
White:

I think it is impossible for a soverign
country to give away a mortgage.

Bell:

You would have to put it under --

H.M.Jr:

I don't care what it is, but I mean - the
British fleet. I mean, I am not saying
any particular thing. I am just trying to

say there has to be some kind of a contract,
some kind of a document, and I take it the
Treasury is going to prepare that document.

Cox:

Well, that has both legal and psychological

questions, depending upon the kind of property.

Now, if it were going to be the British fleet,

you could draw the legal document by which you
set up under what conditions you get possession

as well as title of the British fleet under

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the mortgage and then you would have the
question of whether you want the President

and the Prime Minister of Britain to sign

it or whether you want the President to
delegate it to somebody and Churchill to
delegate it to somebody to be signed.

On the other hand, if you - going back for
illustration to these powder plants, the
British Purchasing Commission apparently

has the full authority to sign without
going back to the government.

H.M.Jr:

Cox:

Well, let's take in the case of Bermuda,

it would be what, the State Department?
They did these other bases, didn't they?

Yes, but you have got to be careful there
as to whom you get to sign the thing, because

the closer you get to something that is like

a treaty, then you have got to go back to
the Senate for confirmation or approval, and
you tend to open again the whole discussion.
H.M.Jr:

You see, I know what the President has in

mind, up until the last time he talked to me
about it, which was last week, because I
mentioned the fact to him that Canada wants
to get under the Lend-Lease and they wanted

only the engines, but they didn't want to
sign.

So he said, "Well, in case of engines," he
said, "we get something back." He has got
an idea that if we are going to give them
some planes, they will replace it with planes.

If we give them ships, they will replace it
with ships. That is the way he has talked
up to now.

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Well, it seemed to me that we had a statement that might cover that, aside from the
legal papers.

H.M.Jr:

I am not through with that --

White:

Any legal document, it seems to me, would

have to be in terms of either the identical
planes or of an equivalent number of planes,

neither of which would be possible or feasible,
or, what would be feasible, have a plane of
equal value. It would have to be set in
terms of dollars.
If that were true, it seems to me you are
driving just the kind of hard bargain that

I gather the others feel --

H.M.Jr:

A plane of equal value wouldn't be dollars.
The President wants to get away from the

dollars, that is the whole point.

White:

You can't use an identical plane.

H.M.Jr:

Now mind you, just so nobody misunderstands

my position. My position, which I stated

before the Lend-Lease Bill ever was introduced, so there can be no misunderstanding,

if I was left alone to write this thing, I

would give it to them, so don't anybody misunderstand me.

White:

But I don't think the American public will
understand that.

H.M.Jr:

I just want you to know where I stand per-

sonally. If it was to me, I would give it to

them and I wouldn't go through all this monkey
business; but just so that nobody gets an

idea that I am trying to drive a hard bargain,

if left to me, I would give the stuff.

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After all, by the time they fight it and
it is their lives which are at stake and
not ours, I think the important thing is

done when they put the boys in to fight the
things and I think when we begin to talk
about getting something back in addition
to having the men fight this thing while
we get time, I think we are driving too

hard a bargain; so if it was just left to

me, I would give them the stuff, so don't,
Harry, get any idea --

White:

I am thinking exclusively from the point of

view of being able to help them most, and

I think that our view was that you will be

able to help them most and be closer to
the very objective which you stated of wanting

to give them more if the initial transaction

were made to abide by two principles, one
to make the American public think they are
not giving it away; second, to make the

British public and their allies and their
potential allies not feel that they are

giving anything up in order to encourage
them, something to abide by both those
principles, and I thought we had something
that might work.

H.M.Jr:

Well, let me show you where I disagree with

you totally. Let's say that - if I understand

you gentlemen correctly, on the billion three
while the appropriation bill is going through,
we want to make a wonderful showing to show

what we have got for the billion three, is
that right?
White:

Without having the British sacrifice anything
so the British won't feel they are giving up
anything they want. In other words, we get
something and they are not giving anything.

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That is possible, I think, in this way.
We thought we would break down the problem
into three parts.
H.M.Jr:

What are you going to give them, the pixies?

White:

You are going to give them such things as
Coast Guard Cutters and so on, which will be

in terms of a lease and in which you will
get back the same cutters, and certainly

no British will object to that. They will

say to themselves, "You can have it back.
It doesn't mean anything out of their skins.
At the same time the American public will
feel that goods of that character, they are
going to get it back and depreciation can

either be allowed or thrown in the kitty.

That is one thing which the American people
feel they are going to get back and which

the British people feel they are not giving
anything when they give it back to us.

A second character was the American plants

which are in the United States. Now, the
Americans would say, justly, "We would be

glad to get these plants back. They are

plants we otherwise would not have had, and

we really are getting something for them.
They are in the United States and they can
produce these commodities.

So far as the British or the Greeks or Chinese
are concerned, they would say to themselves,

"Well sure, we got the use of those plants.

We already wrote those off. It is only

reasonable that you should have ammunition

plants that are in your country," and I
don't think they would regard that as giving
up anything.

As regards the third character, I thought

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we concluded on that one that we ought to
be vague and mere) say, 'The discussions
are going forward with respect to quid
pro quo's on other items," so that you
would have two real items which the American
public would be impressed with.
H.M.Jr:

Let's just for a minute say I took it just
as you gave it, and let's say that Ed Foley
had to go up to testify on this bill because
I am not going, you see, and Ed Foley goes
up and 3ays - now, he explains this. They

say, "That is wonderful, that is something.
Now, Mr. Foley, you are asking for another

Foley:

five billion dollars. Would you mind telling
us what you are going to get for that?"
Yes, and I think that simplifies the problem,
because until you get this stuff out of the
way --

H.M.Jr:
Foley:

Yes, but -And you come to Congress and say we have gotten

the stuff --

H.M.Jr:

Then what --

Foley:

This is a tangible value that we can get.
We have gotten a certain portion of their
exports, we have gotten their plant investment in this country, we have gotten these
tangible assets of ours that we made available
to them, we have got them to agree to give
them back to us when they get through with

them.

H.M.Jr:

Now what are you going to get with the five

Foley:

Now we are asking for five billion dollars

billion?

for bullets and ammunition and guns, things

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that can't be returned, things that are

used up.
H.M.Jr:

What are you going to get for that?

Foley:

And we are going to get an agreement that

we will work out with the British whereby
if Britain is overrun and conquered, what
is left of their war machine comes to us,
so that we can take up the burden there of
carrying on.

H.M.Jr:

May I interrupt you?

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

After Britain is conquered, we are going to

get their war machine? What do you mean,

Mr. Foley?
Foley:

Well, we have an agreement with Mr. Churchill
and the British Cabinet whereby orders will

be given to their captains to bring their
ships into American ports if the British are
conquered.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got anything else?

Foley:

That is the French Navy situation and it
wasn't done with France. The British had
to go in and shoot them up. We don't want
to have to send our ships in to shoot the
British.

H.M.Jr:

What else are you going to get besides the
British Navy?

Foley:

We are going to get whatever is left of
their fighting equipment, whatever we can get
out of there, the planes they can fly out,
the bombers they can get over to this country,

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manufactured and gotten ready to take

over to Great Britain, all of the remnant
of the war machine that is left should
come here and in addition to that, their

holdings in the western hemisphere, New-

foundland, British Guiana, the islands in
the West Indies, Canada is released. If

Canada wants to throw in with us, she

comes to us. All of their ownings and

their holdings in the western hemisphere

we fall heir to, and that is the kind of

an agreement that we will have to work out;
and we are going to make the very best

deal we can in consideration of this five

billion dollars.

H.M.Jr:

Are you --

Bell:

I wonder if the Appropriations Committee

is going to ask you what kind of a deal

you are going to make for this money that
you are going to spend for Great Britain?

I think you are anticipating something that

won't come up.
Foley:

Dan, there is a certain amount of Yankee

trading that you have got to be able to
demonstrate to this committee, that is going
to make the appropriation, that you have gone
through, and they have gotten rid of their

fixed investments in this country. They

have liquidated them. They have liquidated
their marketable securities and then in
addition to that, we have taken what we can

get of their plant investments for war
purposes, and their exports to this country.

We have gone through all that, and we have

taken what we can get out of that, and from

there in, it is a question of working out

the most statesmanlike arrangement that we
can work out.

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But I think that Congress is going to be

much more disposed to grant appropriations

for things that we never expect to get back
in order to keep Britain going. Once

Congress realizes that we have made a sincere

effort to --

White:
Foley:

That is right, to get what is available.
To take over what is available in this
country, and I think until we do that, the

Woodrums and the rest of these fellows are

going to say, "Well, by golly, we have got

enough to do getting ourselves ready without appropriating taxpayers' hard earned
money to carry on a war in Great Britain.
Bell:

I think all you have to do is carry out a

statement the Secretary made before the
committees in Congress, that they are going

to liquidate their investments in this
country.

Foley:

When, Dan?

Bell:

To meet their contracts.

Foley:

When?

Bell:

Well, they are in the process of doing it
now.

Foley:

We don't want to make any more appropriations

to
carry out this bill until that has been
done.

Bell:

I don't believe Congress will take that
attitude.

Foley:

Well, they may.

White:

I think we are talking about the same thing,

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Secretary spoke of, Ed isn't referring
to. They are supposed to be sold and
paying for their past debt. That is out
of the picture. They no longer have them

in the discussion. What he had reference
to were these plants which they have
bought, only, as far as the United States

is concerned.
H.M.Jr:

One hundred and thirty-four million dollars.

Bell:

Yes, one per cent of the - even the property
limitation
of the bill.

H.M.Jr:

One hundred and thirty-four million.

White:

It is a small amount, and that is why they
won't object; and yet it seems to me - well,

the opposition won't have anything good which
they can ask you to take. You put them on
the defensive instead of being on the de-

fensive. You have taken everything that is
reasonable, and even though it is small,
at least that is the best under the circumstances. Anything beyond that involves
grave difficulties which they themselves would
be reluctant to advise, and I don't see why
the British would object.
Bell:

It seems to me all we have got to do in this
picture is to see that you have kept faith

with the Congress in your statement before
the two committees. We have also got to

see that the British --

Foley:

More than that.

Bell:

That the British do not lay up any surplus
funds during the period that we operate
under the Lease-Lend Bill, and I take it

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that there will be many articles - even
food items, that you can't get under the

Lease-Lend Bill that the British will have

to pay for from their cash resources. I

wouldn't want to see the British come at
the end of the year and the war end and

them have a half billion dollars in dollar
resources built up in this country and have
a lease-lend operation of four or five
billion. I don't think we want to see
that.

H.M.Jr:

I don't think you will.

Bell:

And I think that is all we have got to

prevent.
H.M.Jr:

Let's just stop here a minute. Can you

(Cochran) read your memorandum, please?

Cochran:

I am not sure this helps very much. It
summarizes what we have been doing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, let me hear it, will you please?
Let me decide.

Cochran:

And there is one last paragraph that is
coming yet.

H.M.Jr:

Let's just hear it, and see, because I have
certain objects in mind.
(Mr. Cochran read the document which is

Attachment A of this transcript.)
Cochran:

Now, there are a couple of more paragraphs
which are just the same as a memo I drew up

last fall when we were thinking of this
bill. They are on national defense and

statistics. Do you want me to read them?

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H.M.Jr:

No, it will come in with the other.

Cochran:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

This is all right, I can use this for what
I want. This is all right. I can condense
it. The other one will be in?

Cochran:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Now let me just - let me just think a minute.
What I have got to do at one o'clock with
the President is simply say, Now look,
Mr. President - see if we agree on this.
as I see it, these are the steps you can
immediately on the signing of the bill go

to work on, on the transfer, up to a billion
three.

Cox:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

"And if it is possible on the signing of
to do up to a billion three, of course, I
the bill to announce what you are going
think the psychological effect would be

wonderful. I mean, if it was ready. I
don't suppose it is physically possible.

And then after all, what do you want? How
is your mind running, what you want in
exchange for the billion three? And then

if you have made up your mind whether you
are going to have a lump sum or whatever
you are going to have, what do you want in

exchange for that?" And with this discussion
which I have had here, which is helpful,
I hope to be able to get what he has in
mind, if he has, and I would be very much

surprised if he didn't have it clearly in

mind.

Then I can come back and we will try to go

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to work. The way I am thinking, if you
ask me, as far &S listed securities and
the direct investments they have got in
this country, those are all earmarked to go

to the payment of outstanding commitments,
and any chicken feed that they can pick up
through the RFC sales of plants, they need

all of that for the payment for things which
they find they won't be able to get through
the lend-lease, and there will be plenty of
those. There isn't a day - they buy planes
and then they suddenly find they want deicers on those planes.

White:

Are you sure of that statement, Mr. Secretary,
that there are things which they can't buy
under the lend-lease? Because the lawyers
have a very different opinion. They claim

the way the bill is written you can buy
anything you want for them, food and so

on. That is as a matter of law, and not
as a matter of policy.
H.M.Jr:

I am talking not as a matter of policy or
law, I am talking of the matter of the

human frailty of mind that they have got

to go up against. By the time they get the
thing through all the agencies and all the
criss-crosses and get the stuff out, they
are going to say to themselves, "Well, we

had better buy this ourselves. I am not
arguing with you as to the law.

Bell:

I should think the committee might say that to
them. "You have got money enough, why don't

you buy this directly?"
H.M.Jr:

I am sure the President hasn't thought this

all through, but I don't see that I can go
I find out what he has got in mind. When
I talked to him originally about the lend-

much further today than we have now until

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very clearly in mind and gave me enough
that we could go ahead and draw a bill and

the bill which we originally drew didn't
differ
very much from the way it finally
came out.
Cox:

There is only one incidental psychological
point on this RFC thing. Suppose when the

appropriation is pending that it gets out

that the RFC or the Government through the
RFC has given dollars in exchange for these

plants in addition to what they are going
to get under the Lend-Lease Bill?

H.M.Jr:

And so what?

Cox:

Well, that is just a question of public
reaction and what effect it will have on
your appropriations.

H.M.Jr:

I think you fellows are making a mountain

out of a mole hill. I don't - hasn't Jones
announced publicly that he was doing this?

Cox:

No.

H.M.Jr:

He hasn't?

White:

And I am not sure that if he did the public
would understand it, but sooner or later
some of the committeemen would understand

it, and it seems to me they can put you on
the defensive when I don't see any reason
in the world why you should be, because if they
need any money later, you can make it up in
other ways. The Lend-Lease Bill is broad
enough so that you can take care of any of
their subsequent requirements without being

vulnerable to the slightest criticism --

H.M.Jr:

I am not vulnerable. I am not going to

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going to fight over a hundred and thirty-

White:

H.M.Jr:

four million dollars. I say it is peanuts.
That is why it shouldn't -Harry, let's drop it. I mean, I am not
going to - this is Jones' contribution, and
he has announced again in the Cabinet, what

he is doing, and this is his baby.

Now, let's call a spade a spade. If we take
it away from him, he is going to be sore,
and he is going to put up a big fight. He
is going to say we are doing this to discredit him and all that, and he immediately
has something and begins to go to work

against the whole thing, and that is what

I have got in my mind.
White:

I thought the way you outlined it he was
going to do it anyway, only he doesn't
them dollars, he just gives them - he

but up
them credit as

give pro just quo, gives everything he part has of done the quid to

date and everything he contemplates doing

will take place anyway.
Foley:

That is right, the only thing he doesn't
do is give them dollars.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I will go over and see what he has
and as soon as I come back, I will let you

know. I hope he has got it clearer in
mind than I have.

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A

March 10. 1941
Secretary Morgenthen
Mr. Cochrea

The following paragraphs set forth the functions performed w the fresently
Department is the field of linison between the American and British Governments:

Union all arrangement suggested w the Treasury Department shortly after the was
wake out is 1939 the Chanceller of the Reghoques had the Beak of England open a
special account with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to be utilised exclusively

for - purchases is the United States. It was agreed that the Secretary of the
should have personal and confidential a to those accounts. Since the
cetting w of this arrangement the Federal Reserve Beak has provided the Secretary

reality with full transcripts of the operations earnied on under this special account.

The Secretary thus knows the exect total and movement of funds is the account, including the identity of payees. The Federal Recerve Beak of New York charges no commission
for carrying this account. As Fiscal Agent of the Pressury. the Federal Reserve Bank
if New York also provides the treasury weekly with a statement aboving all disburse
neats. both through the British Purchasing Commission and otherwise, sade free the
access of the British Government and Beak of England with the Federal Reserve Beak
of New York. This gives is detail the secress of such funds. abother easing from

sales of gold OF securities OF from other credits. This analysis steve total debite

and credits and Government expensitures. The treasury Department has arrangements
for receiving reports from Foreign Service Officers throughout the world wheaever

cold shipments to the United States are nade. From the British treasury efficiale
10 obtains is confidence each information as the British have with respect to their
- and foreign gold holdings, and particularly date as to the mount and location of
and belonging to the British Government.

In the Summer of 1940 Bir Frederick Phillips. Under Secretary of the British
Treasury with whee the treasury has had close relations for the past coveral years.
case to the United States for as eschange of views with this Treasury. No returned
again is November 1940, and is still in Washington. He has with his two

of the is in a

exports. one of then a specialist on statistics. Through constant with

Nir Frederick including Hr. Pincent, the Financial

Phillips British and Subscry his assistants, Treasury position Brittah to be Treasury kept currently officials
informed istheregard
to the British financial position. The

here either cable or telephone Lender whomever we require any special information.
Rose this channel the Treasury was able to compile the extensive date submitted to
Googress is connection with the Lease-lead Bill.

Sisee 1934 the Treasury has availed itself of the services of an American Foreign
Service Officer is Bendea to submit special reports upon financial and monotary w
loste. Such officer has also been used for linices functions with the British
Treasury is Senion. Since the caming of Sir Frederick Phillips and his assistants

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to the Milled States. prestically all of - Meters - = = - a
makington.
SECURITIES

MS result of suggestions made w the treasury. working is conjunction with the
Separities and Exchange Commission. the Chanceller of the Technoques sent to the

United Rates is the of 1939 . British occurity expert to manage the saleis

this country of dollar committee to which the British Government was taking ession
This representative continues to dispose of efficially owned securities. carefully

avoiding my operations which sight adversely affect our market, selletting -

professional active as may be desired, and keeping the Treasury currently informed of
Ms transactions. Toward such end. the security agent in New York provides the
treasury. through the British Babasay is Washington, daily with - statement aboving

total sales of countities. inficiting the member of shares and the dollar processa.
and secondly as itemised list w same and amount of all securities sold each day.

the New York through of a Ganadian bank serves as the depository for the securities

benefici seler this system. As the beginning of this arrangement, the British Streetly
provided the American Treasury with a detailed list of all American securities registaped with the British Government. The agent is New Tost issues to the press . stateneal of those securities which are vested from time to time, and has once a month since
the beginning of the present year given est statements as to these securities which
are completely liquidated.

DIRBOR INVOICE

is the suggestion of the Present the Britten Government sent to this country at

the and of January, Six Monre Pensock. a director of the Bank of Regland and head of

the leaking firm of During Brothers to oversee the Liquidation of British direct
investments is the United States. Assisted by the staff of Mr. offfers. the agent
who to disposing of listed securities. Sir Buard Persock has new begun his efforts
toward evaluating and selling British direct investments. He has conferred closely
with the treasury and the 8. B. 0. and his various propositions are having the study
of the treasury's General Counsel before being communated.

Type the treasury's recommendation, the President eat - in November 1939 as
informal committee to be the exclusive 11alson body of this Government dealing with

the representatives of foreign Governments interested is the purchase of - materials
is the United States. Representatives of the Presensy. Ver and Havy Departments stitute this committee, which reports to the President through one of his Maintainsof this commisses were

ea
the
articlest
to
arrange
condinate purchases is such a masser as to reduce price speets that eight result from
live atvice assistants. availability The three of primary the desired purposes prioritions to study and and to

disorgenised and competitive purchasing. so has been the treasury's policy to ea-

- the British Government to soul to this country a qualified purchasing can-

storica to represent that Government is buying war materials. The Secretary himself
has close personal contact with the head of this commission.

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NARIONAL

of arms, British
thedemands
evident
on se
the national defense program of the United States developed. together with

increasing is # because that the increasing British Repire attention for must be ammunition, given to integrating and materials of

these of

the

representative parchases vat, with on the President's the United Siniona States. Committee. To this - has the worked Treasury, continuously through with Ste

establishment

of with & system Purchasing of profiminary Commission electrones with the following orders to general be placed objectivesi that they The could be

considered and acted upon is conjunction with Army and Havy purchases of the items or from the same suppliers) the institution of a system. through the Advisery
Commission to the Council of National Defence, of investigating alternative sources
supply so as to avoid concentrating British orders in large suppliers who were
already overlbaded: the development with representatives of the British Purchasing
Commission of long-range programs for various products to assist the Advinory

of

Commission to the Council of National Defence and the Away and Havy is determining
production bottlenecks which would have to be remotion through additional plant

expensions the institution of standardisation conferences intended to concentrate
United States and British orders on products of identical design 8 that additional
especity created by the British for their orders would be useful to the United States
is 0000 of energency.
STARINTICS

Continuous contact is maintained w the Treasury Department with the statistical
staff of the British Purchasing Commission. Information is obtained periodically
from the Commission regarding purchases is the United States by the British Empire
deverments. Weekly statements are received convering is dollar volume the Itemised
purchases by the British Repire Governments through the Commission the itemised
purchases sale w these Governments with the knowledge of the Commission but not

through its facilities, and inquiries made by the Commission OF with its knowledge
for future purchases. Similar statements are received showing. by itemized contracts.
the dollar volume of deliveries sade with respect to orders placed by Great Britain
through the Commission. The data with respect to contracts for anddoliveries of
airplanes and airplane parts are specially detailed and useful in connection with
the American defense program. Bach week there is a report showing commitments by

British Repire Governments for capital expenditures is the United States and for
extraordinary charges designed to expedite deliveries from American companies. A
monthly statement shows the amount of British payments node to date, the value of
orders to date, and the residual amount of balances due. together with the estimated
schedule of future payments.

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TO:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: Foreign Purchasing Operations

The work of the Libison Committee can be divided into

three major categories: (1) Handling all routine requests:
(2) Reporting activities: and (8) Participation in defense

committee activities.

(1) Handling All Routine Reguests.--Since July 1, 1940,

the Lisison Committee has handled approximately 2000 requests

from about twenty-one countries in addition to the British and
Dutch Empires. of these, over 1000 were British, 700 Datch, and
the balance miscellaneous. Practically all of those countries
file requests on a routine form known as Preliminary Negotiasion
Report, which is circulated through the Var Department, the Havy

Department, and the Office of Production Management. A constant
check is also maintained on these requests with the State Department and with Expert Control. The elearance of a PER basically
means as allocation of United States production capacity for a
foreign order.

In addition to those requests a now system has been in

operation for six weeks for the handling of foreign priorities.
Approximately eighty-five priorities cases have already been

handled.

(a) Reporting Activities. -The Research and Statistics
Division of the Treasury compiles is cooperation with the Linison
Committee detailed reports ea all phases of British Purchasing
operations as well as on the operations of the Netherlands Paychasing Commission, and Limisteves, Inc., a Dates East Indies

export firm. In addition to rentine periodic reports, special
studies are made from time to time. Every effort is being sale

to compile in one spot a survey of foreign orders for was materials
placed in the United States in order that the impact of such
orders on our economy may be adequately studied and coordinated

with national production planning.

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(3) Participation in Defense Committee Activities.--In
addition to the foregoing the Limison Committee holds membership
on the Advisory Committee of the Administrator of Expert Control.
the Expert Centrol Sub-Connittee en legislation, Preclamations,
the Joint

Joint Aircraft on

on and 100, Regulations. the Sub-Commissee Standardisation Aircraft and Commit-

Allocation of Deliveries, and the Joint Yank Pleasing Committee.
Participation in those activities was made accessary in order that
foreign orders night be ocordinated with the defense program.

It should be noted that the office of the treasury nonber

of

the Limison Committee, which new has a staff of is the

administrative office and the focusing point for foreign parchasing operations. no Wes, Nevy, and Expert Centrol members of the
Committee serve as contacts in the respective agencies for carrying
on the work of the Committee. Further. as the PER electence yrssecure noted under (1) above was originally instituted at the request
of Mr. Knodsen, a very close relationship has been worked out and
maintained between the activities of OPM and the Linison Committee.

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March 10, 1941
2:16 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Operator:
H.M.Jr:

Marriner
Eccles:

H.M.Jr:

E:

Hello.
Chairman Ecoles.

Hello, Marriner.
Oh, Henry

I apologize but I was just all tied up in a

knot this morning.

Well, it isn't anything very special. I

suppose you saw it in the paper, but we got
that Chicago thing fixed up.

H.M.Jr:

No, I did not see it in the paper.

E:

Well, I called you Saturday

H.M.Jr:

I know you did.

E:

and I just thought you'd like to know

what the result was. After I last talked to

you we had another session over here with

Cummings - somewhat of a knock-down and drag-

out - and the result of it was, however, we
told him where to head in in no uncertain terms

and he went back and they finally elected Young,
who has been in the bank for nearly twenty years.

H.M.Jr:

I missed that.

E:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

E:

I say they went back and elected Young, who

has been in the bank for about twenty years, as
President and Preston, they retained him as

first vice president.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

E:

They didn't go outside at all, and they have
two men who are experienced and competent and
I feel that can carry on.

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H.M.Jr:
E:

H.M.Jr:
E:

H.M.Jr:
E:

Yeah.

And they wouldn't go outside to any other
District; they stayed within the bank.
Well, I congratulate you.

Now, I think it really was the thing to do
rather than to go outside and bring somebody
in who is entirely unexperienced at this time.
It sounds like a very happy solution.
There is one other thing that I want to mention.
I notice by the paper that you' re in favor of,
if they report you correctly, of getting more
revenue from taxation and less from borrowing;
that as much as two-thirds of our expenditures,

if possible, from taxation looking to 42 and
more like a third from borrowing.

H.M.Jr:

E:

Well, two-thirds from revenue. Yes, that's
correct.

Well, I was just going to say that I'm so
thoroughly in accord with it that I was delighted
to read that and I'd like to be able to do anything I can to - in connection with revenue to support that kind of a policy with all of
the economic reasons that I can help to devise.

H.M.Jr:

E:

H.M.Jr:

E:

Well, I can't tell you how pleased I am and
I'11 get in touch with you Thursday or Friday.

Well, that's fine, because if I can help in
connection with the Hill and legislation or
anything, I'11 be glad to go right to the bat,
because I think it's terribly important from
an inflationary standpoint. Taxation I have
always felt is the one way, if there is a way,
to deal with it.
Well, nothing would please me more than to have

you - to work with you.
Well, I just wanted to let you know the way I

felt about it.

H.M.Jr:

I'11 be getting in touch with you.

E:

Fine.

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March 10, 1941
2:45 p.m.
RE AID TO BRITAIN

Present:

Mr. Kuhn

Mr. Bell

Mr. Cox
Mr. Gaston
Mr. Cochran

Mr. White
Mr. Foley

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

Well, this is all extra confidential. I had a

very satisfactory talk to the President of the
United States and I wanted to introduce my

remarks by saying that the criticism that I
had of either Bell or Foley for not being
prepared after talking with the President,

I would say, was unjustified, because neither

is he. (Laughter)
Foley:

Well, that is not so simple.

H.M.Jr:

I told you if I was not justified, I would tell
you so. Again, I can't overemphasize the
necessity for secrecy. Harold Smith came out
as I went in, and when I saw the look on his

face, I just burst out laughing. I said, "You

had better go and get yourself a drink of

whiskey." He looked as though he had been
through three keyholes. He says, "You go on

in and get yours.

When I came in I was still laughing, and the
President says, "What is so funny? And I

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-2said, "The face on the Director of your

Budget." So he says, "I will let you enjoy

your lunch and give you the figure afterward."

What they have got in mind is seven billion

dollars for the Lend-Lease, most likely all
contractual money. Is that what you call it?

Foley:

Yes, not dividing it up.

H.M.Jr:

Divided up into about seven items. He is having

me over tomorrow when he sees the Finance people

from the Hill.

Bell:

Appropriations people?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, and I will try and take you with me, if I
can.

Gaston:

Is that supposed to be a year?

H.M.Jr:

Bell:

July 1, '42.
Available until that time?

H.M.Jr:

Well, he was very much surprised that the

leaders he saw this morning took it so well, so

I told him maybe we plowed the ground when we

went up with the debt limit and showed fiftyeight and seven made sixty-five and everybody
guessed it was for the Lend-Lease.

Bell:

They will know now that we knew what it was.

H.M.Jr:

Sure, just the way I said the day after election
we needed sixty-five for the debt limit. (Laughter)

We have been lucky. So we always had this in
mind.

Bell:

Yes, you dreamed it.

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-3H.M.Jr:

On the billion three hundred million, he
evidently has made out his list, when he said
he would show me Wednesday. He is thinking -

for instance, he talked in terms of four cutters.

We will say they are worth two million new and

worth a million now. And within five years
after the war is over, England should return
us a million dollars worth - well, four cutters,
four million dollars worth of ships to be speci-

fied at the time in United States value. If
they can build them for less, all right, but
in United States value. He isn't interested
in the Islands, he is not interested in their

fleet. All of this is terribly confidential.

He is not going to make any deal on the seven

billion at this time. He hasn't thought it
through. Amongst ourselves, he just hasn't
thought it through.

So the only thing I am going to do is, I am
going to order the stuff, see, and then we have
got to get it and talk about what we are going
to do with it afterward, but he has nothing in

mind. I am giving you the only example he gave
me on the cutters, you see.
He said, "Henry, you and I know as much as

anybody what a cutter is worth. Maybe a two

million dollar cutter is worth a million. Well,

we say within five years after the war is over
we want a million dollars of some kind of ship
back."

As to the paper work and contract work and all
that, he expects it to be done in the Treasury.

I mean, as to the forms. I didn't get it

because I - I pressed him pretty hard. I don't

think he really had thought through who was going
to place the value and who was going to do the
swapping, you see. I am sure he hasn't, be-

cause I really pressed him awfully hard. I

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know he is not thinking of these other things.
I had an ample chance to tell him what we are
doing on the finances. I told him about the
"Harry White Plan" for the hundred and thirtyfour million - no, I just mentioned a hundred

and thirty-four million over there, that as

far as I knew we hadn't gotten anything yet
and the Army and Navy five. And without my
asking he said, "I will give you something,
which is priceless. He wrote down, "H.M.Jr:
Because of the general financial picture, can
you hurry up, A, RFC taking over British payments made for plants, plants on the line;
B, War Department taking over material on the
line, payments made by the British. FDR."
That is for me to show Jones and Stimson. I
got over to him that my understanding with
the British was that their direct investments
and the sales from their securities was to be
used for existing contracts, that any money
they got from the RFC and the War Department

could be used for British standard. He said,

"That is right, that is good.'

I got over the story about the Belgian gold and
the mental earmarking and got all that over.
He listened very closely, and I had plenty of

time. He didn't hurry me. I said, "Now, my
position is, I am going to keep pressing the
English to sell their securities and investments to pay for their contracts." I told him

I thought they had enough money to last until
April 1. He said he had always thought May 1,
that was the figure he carried in his mind.
He is going to give me a cruiser to go down

to South Africa. So I don't - right now, I

don't see that there is much that we can do.

The appropriation bill, the drafting of it,

is being handled by Harold Smith. You lawyers

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5

ought to be concentrating on some kind

of forms so that, for instance, if we

lend-lease them four cutters, what kind

of papers you are going to have. I think

you ought to concentrate on contracts.
Foley:

Oscar has got an outline here that Harry
Hopkins asked for that might be helpful

for you to read. You could read it aloud,

maybe, to the rest of the people.
H.M.Jr:

How long is it?

Cox:

It is very short. It shows the minimum

legal requirements.
H.M.Jr:

Is it more than a page?

Cox:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I have got O'Neal outside. How long

will it take you to read it?

Cox:

Oh, I can tell you very briefly.

H.M.Jr:

Tell it to me, and we will need a copy for
the files.

Cox:

On the minimum legal requirements, one is the
President has to authorize either the Secretary
of War, Navy or Treasury or whatever department

is concerned to dispose of it. Secondly, he
has to have evaluation. Thirdly, you have to

have an agreement from the British Government

that they won't transfer this stuff to any

other country without the consent of the
President, and fourthly, you need a record

for a reporting element to Congress. Fifthly,

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6

an agreement to show what the financial

terms are if i is anything other than a

disposition or a memorandum to agree later.

What we have tried to do is to put in one
document most of the steps so that the thing
will initiate from the Secretary of War and
Navy saying that so and so equipment, giving

it in detail, is available. The Chief of
Staff --

H.M.Jr:

Cox:

Talk a little louder. O'Neal is outside,

of the Farm Bureau Federation. (Laughter)
The Chief of Staff and the Chief of Naval
Operations have been consulted, and they
recommend the transfer. Then the Secretary
of War, Navy or Treasury signs. The Chief
of Staff indicates that he has been consulted.
Then the President approves. So that that one

document will take all that part except the

financial agreement. Then you ought to have
a note from the British Ambassador, including

these two other things, that property won't
be transferred without the consent of the
President and if it is necessary to protect

American patent holders, the British Government

will do so if requested by the Presi dent or his
designee to do so.

H.M.Jr:

When did you get the request for this?

Cox:

Yesterday.

H.M.Jr:

Can I have a copy of that?

Cox:

You can have the original. A formal document
is being typed now.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Bell, what do you see now after what I
have told you people what we can do?

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Bell:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

You are giving a copy to Bell?

Cox:

Yes.

Bell:

I did a little work this morning on a form,

Bartelt and I did. I think you have got to

work out first whether you are going to have
master agreements first and what is going to
be the evidence attached to that master agreement. I was trying to work up something to be
signed by an Army officer and, say, a British
officer when this material comes off the line

and it goes over to the British. There ought

to be some document signed right then, it
seems to me, as an invoice or something. Then
that ought to come some place as a formal part
of this agreement.
H.M.Jr:

I got the President's approval, and I am telling
Halifax tonight that by the end of the week if
Sir Edward Peacock doesn't show results I will
ask for his recall. The President approved

heartily. I have arranged to see Halifax either

going or coming.
Bell:

On this seven billion dollars, you said it was

all contractual authorization. Isn't there
going to be a large sum of it in the form of

an appropriation and the balance contractual?

H.M.Jr:

I meant all appropriation.

Bell:

Oh, you meant all appropriation?

H.M.Jr:

All appropriation.

Bell:

No contractual authorization?

H.M.Jr:

All appropriations, and then he is going to
see Sullivan and me Thursday on the tax bill.

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-8Did you (Young) take care of Meigs?
Young:

Yes. He is going to send over his report,
his new aircraft report tonight or tomorrow.
He wanted to bring it himself. I suggested
he send it over and let us look at it first
and then you could talk to him about it,
either ask him questions about it or whatever
you decide to do with it, after we have a
chance to go over it.

H.M.Jr:

That is all right.

Gaston:

That will be the four cutters of the Modoc type?

H.M.Jr:

I imagine so. He evidently had read the thing

Gaston:

Yes.

White:

Do you think it would be helpful to have a

and had those in mind, Herbert.

memorandum for yourself in which all the possible
reasonable quid pro quos that you have been

talking about are listed with the various dis-

cussions of pros and cons of each one, because
some of them that you have been talking about
have disadvantages which are not patent on the

surface. If he is going to make up his mind
within the next couple of days what to ask for

for this billion three, it would be helpful.
If he is not, it doesn't matter.
H.M.Jr:

Can't do any harm by listening. From the way

he talked this morning, he is, but it doesn't
do any harm to listen. All right, gents.
White:

Did you want anyone from the Treasury to go
to the SEC? They have got a meeting right
now. I didn't know whether you wanted anybody

to participate in it or not. They are asking

for somebody right away. They have got the

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-9 leaders of the two associations there and they
have called up twice.
H.M.Jr:

What do you people think?

Cochran:

I would let them go ahead, I think, on it.

White:

I think he feels a little sore.

Cochran:

H.M.Jr:

He telephoned at noon. Jerry and Purcell tell

me that he had talked with the other Commissioners
and they preferred that nothing be given out at
the press conference.
I got that, but what about having somebody at
10:00?

White:

He called me up this morning. I referred him
to Cochran. Then he called up again saying

they wanted somebody. I said I wasn't certain -

at least I felt that I thought they ought to
carry the ball on that. He said, Well, the
least you can do is send somebody."

H.M.Jr:

I think we should have somebody over there.
You had better go, Harry.

White:

I thought of Cairns.

H.M.Jr:

All right, Cairns.

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TO

3/12/41
9:55 a.m.

Miss Chauncey:

Mr. Cox says that there
is an enclosure for "(3)", but he
will have to get it (he doesn't now
have and hasn't yet had) and when

he receives it he, Cox, will send
to you.

As I told you yesterday,
this was written again in the afterthe 10th. They are
run of the second draft and

noon of making

the original copy
willsend
another
of the

rewrite to you. The first original
of the Second Draft was given to
Harry Hopkins by Mr. Cox.

tim

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247

first draft
Minimum Legal Steps Required To Be Taken

In Disposing of Defense Articles
Under H.R. 1776

The following minimum legal steps are required to be
taken under H.R. 1776:

1) An authorization by the President to the
Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy,

etc., to dispose of the defense articles;
2) A valuation of the defense articles trans-

ferred to Britain, etc.
3) A short overall representation by the British
Ambassador, etc., that he agrees on behalf of
his government that every contract or agree-

ment made for the disposition of defense articles or defense information shall be deemed to
include a clause that His Majesty's Government

undertakes that it will not, without the consent of the President or someone designated by

248
-2-

him for that purpose, transfer title to or
possession of such defense articles or information or permit its use by anyone not

an officer, employee or agent of the British
Government. The note from His Majesty's
Ambassador should also contain a representa-

tion that, where, as a result of the transfer
to his Government of defense articles or de-

fense information, it is necessary to protect

fully the patent rights of American citizens,
it will do so when so requested by the President or his designee.

4) For record purposes, it should be indicated
that the Chief of Staff or the Chief of Naval
Operations, or both, have been consulted in

connection with the disposition of defense
articles obtained out of appropriations made
before H.R. 1776 is passed.

249
-3-

5) For record purposes, and in order to make
the necessary reports to the Congress and

the Administrator of Export Control, a record should be kept of the defense articles
and defense information disposed of under

the Bill, showing the quantities, character,
value, terms of disposition, and destination
of the articles and information exported.

6) If the defense articles or defense information
are to be disposed of by gift, no separate
agreement is required to embody the financial

terms. If it is desired to cover the financial terms, an agreement deing so will be necessary.

(1), (2), (4), and (5).
As a prectical matter, it may be desired to have the
proposal to dispose of the defense articles come originally
from the Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy, or the

250
4-

head of the department or agency concerned.

Thus, for example, if it is desired to provide Britain
with ten mosquito boats, the Secretary of the Navy might
prepare a memorandum listing such boats, giving their value,

and stating that, in his opinion and in the opinion of the
Chief of Naval Operations, their disposition to Britain would
be in the interests of our defense.
The President could then indicate his approval on such
a memorandum.

A memorandum of this type would, therefore, cover in one

motion the steps (1), (2), (4), and (5).
In the interests of reducing the number of steps required, there is annexed hereto a form of such a memorandum
which may be used.
(3)

Annexed is a form of note which the British Ambassador
can send to the Secretary of State.

251
-5--

(6)

Any such agreement will, of course, be dependent on

what kind of consideration, if any, the United States Govern-

ment wishes to obtain. Once this major policy decision is
made, the agreement can be drafted fairly quickly. Its
negotiation with and signature by the British may, of course,
require some time, depending on the kind of property that is
intended to be conveyed.

If speed is desired, it is possible to enter into a
memorandum to agree, leaving the detailed terms to further
negotiation.

252
NAVY DEPARTMENT

Disposition Under the Act of March 12, 1941,
of Defense Articles and Defense Information
Procured
That
Act. from Appropriations Made Prior to

(1) The defense of Great Britain is vital to the defense
of the United States.

(2) The effect of the recommended transfer, annexed hereto,
upon the resources of the United States Navy has been investi-

gated in the light of our national defense.
(3) The Chief of Naval Operations has been consulted in
connection with the recommended transfer.

(4) The defense articles and defense information set
forth in the annexed schedule have been valued in accordance

with the provisions of the Act of March 12, 1941.

(5) It will be in the interests of our national defense
to transfer such defense articles and defense information, and
it is so recommended.

Secretary of the Navy.

Chief of Naval Operations.
Approved:

The President of the United States.

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FAT DEPARTMENT

Defense Articles and Defense Information
Mapah 12. THAN

type of
Defense Articles

Terms of
Quantity

Disposition

Terms of

Type of

Defense Information

Value

Quantity

Value

Disposition

Destination

Destination

254

first

MAR 10 1941

second
Minimum Legal Steps Required To Be Taken

In Disposing of Defense Articles
Under H.R. 1776

The following minimum legal steps are required to be
taken under H.R. 1776:

1) An authorization by the President to the
Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy

etc., to dispose of the defense articles;
2) A valuation of the defense articles transferred

to Britain, etc.
3) A short overall representation by the British
Ambassador, etc., that he agrees on behalf of
his government that every contract or agree-

ment made for the disposition of defense articles or defense information shall be deemed to
include a clause that His Majesty's Government

undertakes that it will not, without the consent of the President or someone designated by

255
-2-

him for that purpose, transfer title to or
possession of such defense articles or information or permit its use by anyone not

an officer, employee or agent of the British
Government. The note from His Majesty's
Ambassador should also contain a representa-

tion that, where, as a result of the transfer
to his Government of defense articles or de-

fense information, it is necessary to protect

fully the patent rights of American citizens,
it will do so when so requested by the President or his designee.

4) For record purposes, it should be indicated
that the Chief of Staff or the Chief of Naval
Operations, or both, have been consulted in

connection with the disposition of defense
articles obtained out of appropriations made
before H.R. 1776 is passed.

256

-3r

5) For record purposes, and in order to make
the necessary reports to the Congress and

the Administrator of Export Control, a record should be kept of the defense articles
and defense information disposed of under

the Bill, showing the quantities, character,
value, terms of disposition, and destination
of the articles and information exported.

6) If the defense articles or defense information
are to be disposed of by gift, no separate
agreement is required to embody the financial

terms. If it is desired to cover the financial terms, an agreement doing so will be necessary.

(1), (2), (4), and (5).
As a practical matter, it may be desired to have the
proposal to dispose of the defense articles come originally
from the Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy, or the

257
-4head of the department or agency concerned.

Thus, for example, if it is desired to provide Britain
with ten mosquito boats, the Secretary of the Navy might
prepare a memorandum listing such boats, giving their value,

and stating that, in his opinion and in the opinion of the
Chief of Naval Operations, their disposition to Britain would
be in the interests of our defense.
The President could then indicate his approval on such
a memorandum.

A memorandum of this type would, therefore, cover in one

motion the steps (1), (2), (4), and (5).
In the interests of reducing the number of steps required, there is annexed hereto a form of such a memorandum
which may be used.
(3)

The note which the British Ambassador sends to the

Secretary of State should conform to the two sections 4 and
7 of the Act of March 12, 1941.

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(6)

The Financial Terms

Any agreement on the financial terms will, of course,
be dependent on what kind of consideration, if any, the
United States Government wishes to obtain. Once this major

policy decision is made, the agreement can be drafted fairly

quickly. Its negotiation with and signature by the British
may, of course, require some time, depending on the kind of
property that is intended to be conveyed.

If speed is desired, it is possible to enter into a
memorandum to agree, leaving the detailed terms to further
negotiation.

OSC:aja:djb
3/10/41

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MAR 10 1941

is

Act of

1942

(1) The defense of Great Britain is vital to the defense
of the United States.

(2) The effect of the recommended transfer, annoxed herete,
upon the resources of the United States Many has been investi-

gated in the light of our national defense.
(3) The Chief of Naval Operations has been consulted in
connection with the recommended transfer.

(4) The defense articles and defense information set
forth in the annexed schedule have been valued in accordance

with the provisions of the Act of March 12, 1941.

(5) It will be in the interests of our national defense
to transfer such defense articles and defense information, and
it is so recommended.

Secretary of the Havy.

Chief of Naval Operations.
Approved:

The President of the United States.

260
NAVY DEPARTMENT

Defense Articles and Defense Information
Recommended for Transfer Under the Act of
March 12, 1941.

Type of

Defense Articles

Terms of

Quantity

Disposition

Terms of

Type of

Defense Information

Value

Quantity

Value

Disposition

Destination

Destination

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March 10, 1941
3:35 p.m.
H.M.Jr:
Claude

Hello.

Wickard:

Are you going to come over and eat lunch with

H.M.Jr:

Oh, Thursday is a lifetime off.

W:

Is what?

H.M.Jr:

That's too far off.

W:

me Thursday?

It is. Well, you said something about we
were going to lunch this week and I'm just

H.M.Jr:

Are you busy Wednesday?

W:

Yes, I am.

H.M.Jr:

All right, Thursday.

W:

Thursday.

H.M.Jr:

Now, here's the only trouble, Claude, what am
I going to tell your friend Bankhead between
now and Thursday.

W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Do you have to tell him between now and then?

Well, not unless he calls me up.
Here's what - I talked to the Boss about his
proposition; that is, you know, very generally
and the Boss has agreed to see Bankhead and

Fulmer.- Fulmer is chairman of the House Committee
on Agriculture - the last of this week. Now, I
don't know what the Boss is going to say but
in some ways, what the Boss said the other day

to me, looks like that he might go along in

general with Bankhead, but he's not going to,
I know, approve the high loans - loans as high,
at least, as Bankhead is talking about.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I can sit tight here until something
happens. Your friend, Ed O'Neal, just left
here.

W:

He did?

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2H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

Did he sell you a bill of goods?
Well, he was on the director - farm director
for the Federal Reserve.

W:

Oh.

H.M.Jr:

That's what he came for.

W:

He has a candidate?

H.M.Jr:

Three.

W:

He has three.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah. Want to know who they are?

W:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Well, one is Bill Myers, Earl Smith, and

W:

H.M.Jr:

R.E. Short.

Oh, none of them are our kind of people, are
they, unless it would be Short.
I don't know.

W:

What about Myers?

H.M.Jr:

Well, he used to be all right; I don't know

W:

Well, he wasn't on our side.

H.M.Jr:

I see. Well, I'm only for fellows who voted

W:

where he was in the last election.

for Roosevelt three times.

Yeah, that's good. Now you and I are getting
some place.

H.M.Jr:

What do you mean you and I? Good God! where do

you think I've been the last 24 years?

W:

Well, (laughs), there are a lot of other people
who don't remember that far back.

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3H.M.Jr:

W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Well, don't forget I rode with him on the
before
election
- twice for governor day
and three
timesfive
fortimes
President.

Well, all right.
In an open car where everybody could see me.

Well,
listen, I belong to the B.C. Club too before Chicago.
Yeah, five times I've campaigned for him.

Well, now listen, let's sew that thing up
like you said now. We're not going to let

any of these fellows - and I doubt whether
any of these fellows mentioned or not, unless
it would be Short - could qualify.

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

Well,
you get busy. My candidate is Campbell,
of Montana.
The hell you did.

(Laughs). That's my fellow, Campbell of

Montana.
W:

Well, I'11 shoot you.

H.M.Jr:

Say, you've got to get up early. I think he's

a swell guy.
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

You do?

Sure, American agriculture representative at
the Court of St. James.
(Laughs).

H.M.Jr:

Heh, heh, heh.

W:

All right. Well, I'11 talk to you about that

Thursday. When is that thing going to be decided?

H.M.Jr:

Oh, I don't know.

W:

Who else - who have you got in mind - anybody?

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H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Nobody. We stick strictly to Treasury matters.
Yeah. (Laughs). Oh, yes, I notice you've been
doing that.

Yeah.

(Laughe).

H.M.Jr:

All right, Claude.

W:

Last week you did an awful good job.

H.M.Jr:

All right, Claude.

W:

Thanks, and I'11 see you Thursday. You come

over here Thursday.
H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

I will.
All right.
Good-bye.

Say, one other thing. You notice the President
made a point or two about getting appropriation
language fixed up along the lines that he talked
about in Cabinet.

H.M.Jr:
W:

Yeah.

I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea for one

or two of our men to come over and see your
man Cox to see about that appropriation language.
H.M.Jr:

You'd better go see the Director of the Budget.

He's got it.

W:

Better go see him?

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

W:

Well, I didn't know. Is he working on the
language now?

H.M.Jr:
W:

Yeah, he's got it.

Well, all right. I'll call up Harold.

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H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

Yeah, you call up Harold.

Who's doing the work on it. Do you know?

It's all in his shop.
I didn't know who he had assigned to it is

the only thing. I'll call him up. Thanks.

Right. Thank you.

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March 10, 1941

Mr. D. W. Bell
Secretary Morgenthan

Please keep after me to give Senator Bankhead

an answer. I think you and I ought to talk with the
Secretary of Agriculture and find out where he stands.
3/11/91

Seey Hickard-

the

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March 10, 1941

This evening on my way to the Australian Legation, I
stopped in to see Lord Halifax. He asked me to come up for
a minute, and I told him that after discussing the matter
with the President at lunch I felt that if Sir Edward Peacock
did not produce some results on the sale of English-owned

securities in this country by the end of the week, I wished
they would put somebody else in charge.

Halifax's eyebrows went up, indicating amazement. I
then explained to him that the President would be sending up
an appropriation message within a day or so, and we then would

have to testify. I said, "I don't know whether you have read
me is, 'What about the direct investments? and I will have to

my testimony, but one of the questions they are going to ask
say that you haven't done a thing."

I told Halifax that this isn't like a bolt coming out

of a clear sky because Cochran had told Pinsent and Phillips
how upset I was about a week ago, and I was sure they repeated
the conversation to Halifax. He gave me no indication as to

whether they did or didn't tell him, so I repeated to him,
"They must have told you how I felt." Then I said, "As a
matter of fact, Purvis and Phillips are 80 upset about this

thing that they went up to New York the other day to see whether
they could not push Peacock to do something.

Lord Halifax was quite upset and I said, "After all, I

think you know by now that I am a friend of England's, and
this request that I am making is to save me the embarrassment

of having to disclose that you have done nothing." I said,

"You appear before Parliament every day and we only go up to

testify occasionally, but then they concentrate all their
fire on us at that time."

Then Halifax made a remark which always shocks me when I

hear it. He said, "Well, you know Sir Edward Peacock has
very powerful friends in England and he is very close to the
Governor of the Bank of England and has strong underlying

political backing." In other words, they are afraid of him.

He said, "Oh, if we withdraw him, the reaction back home would
be very bad.

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-2Well, all I can say is, "How about the reaction in this
country?" But the point that gets me is that they always
think in terms of political affiliations and not in terms
of winning the war. Halifax tried his best to get me to
back down, but I gritted my teeth and I did not give an inch.

Then he told me that he was going to have Purvis, and I think
he said either Phillips or Pinsent, at the Embassy at 10:30
tonight, and he asked me whether I wanted him to discuss this

with them. I said, "I most certainly do." He said, "Well,

I understand that Peacock has tried every way possible to
sell these things," and I said, "Now look. He could consummate

a sale and leave the ultimate price to some kind of arbitration,
and by doing this, it would show that England intends to go
through with this thing."

Driving over to the Legation in the car, Halifax said
that he appreciated my frankness. I told him that I hoped

I hadn't been too frank but I didn't know any other way of
presenting the matter. After dinner when we got up to leave
he asked me what time I left in the morning as he would like

to see me. I told him I was afraid that I left too early

because I usually leave the house around 8:30. Then he wanted

to know what time I got home in the evening, and I told him
around 5:30 or 6:00. Well, he said that he would phone me
during the day if he had anything and would try to arrange to
see me. I said, "Fine."

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H MORGHTHAU JR PERS NAL
MARCH 10, 1941
(RADIO CORPORATION OF AMERICA)

W AVERILL HARRIMAN PASSENGER
PANAIRCO

LISBON PORTUGAL

WISH YOU GOOD LUCK AND SUCCESS YOUR MISSION REGARDS
HENRY MORGENTHAU JR

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taken

March 10, 1941.
Secretary Morgenthan
Mr. Cochran

(abridged by F. K.)

These are the channels through which the Treasury obtains detailed informtion about the British financial positions
FINANCES

(1) Ever since the Fall of 1939 the Secretary has had confidential access to

the accounts of the Bank of England's special fund in the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York for the purchase of war materials here. The Federal Reserve Bank reports
to him weekly as to the exact total and movement of funds in this account, including the identity of payees.

(2) The Federal Reserve Bank supplies the Treasury weekly with a statement
showing all disbursements, through the British Purchasing Commission and otherwise,
made from the accounts of the British Government and the Bank of England with the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York. This gives in detail the sources of such funds,
whether coming from sales of gold or securities or from other credits.

(3) Foreign Service Officers report to the Treasury whenever gold shipments

to the United States are made.

(4) Constant liaison with Sir Frederick Phillips and his assistants in Wash-

ington has enabled the Treasury to obtain such information as the British have regarding (a) their own and foreign gold holdings, (b) the amount and location of gold
belonging to the British Government, and (c) any special information we may require.
SECURITIES

The Treasury is kept informed daily of the activities of the security expert

sent here by the British Government to manage the sale of officially owned securities.
At the start of this arrangement, the British provided the American Treasury with a
detailed list of all American securities registered with the British Government. The
daily report shows, (1) total sales of securities, indicating the number of shares
and the dollar proceeds, and (2) an itemized list by name and amount of all securities sold each day.
DIRECT INVESTMENTS

The Treasury and the S. E. c. are in close touch with Sir Edward Peacock, who

was sent to this country at the end of January to oversee the liquidation of British
direct investments in the United States. His various propositions are studied by the
Treasury's General Counsel before being consumated.
COMMITMENTS

For the past two months the British Purchasing Commission has sent the Treasury

a daily list of the contracts it would like to place. Each such list is countersigned by Sir Frederick Phillips to indicate that funds are available. The British
are not free to proceed with these contracts until they have the approval of the
Secretary of the Treasury in each case.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE March 10, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

The following paragraphs set forth the functions performed by the Treasury
Department in the field of liaison between the American and British Governments:
FINANCES

Under an arrangement suggested by the Treasury Department shortly after the war
broke out in 1939 the Chancellor of the Exchequer had the Bank of England open a
special account with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to be utilized exclusively

for war purchases in the United States. It was agreed that the Secretary of the

Treasury should have personal and confidential access to these accounts. Since the
setting up of this arrangement the Federal Reserve Bank has provided the Secretary

weekly with full transcripts of the operations carried on under this special account.

The Secretary thus knows the exact total and movement of funds in the account, including the identity of payees. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York charges no commission
for carrying this account. As Fiscal Agent of the Treasury, the Federal Reserve Bank
f New York also provides the Treasury weekly with a statement showing all disbursements, both through the British Purchasing Commission and otherwise, made from the
accounts of the British Government and Bank of England with the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York. This gives in detail the sources of such funds, whether coming from

sales of gold or securities or from other credits. This analysis shows total debits

and credits and Government expenditures. The Treasury Department has arrangements

for receiving reports from Foreign Service Officers throughout the world whenever
gold shipments to the United States are made. From the British Treasury officials
it obtains in confidence such information as the British have with respect to their
own and foreign gold holdings, and particularly data as to the amount and location of
gold belonging to the British Government.

In the Summer of 1940 Sir Frederick Phillips, Under Secretary of the British
Treasury, with whom the Treasury has had close relations for the past several years,
came to the United States for an exchange of views with this Treasury. He returned
again in November 1940, and is still in Washington. He has with him two Treasury
experts, one of them a specialist on statistics. Through constant liaison with
Sir Frederick Phillips and his assistants, including Mr. Pinsent, the Financial
Counselor of the British Embassy, the Treasury is in a position to be kept currently officials

informed in regard to the British financial position. The British Treasury

here either cable or telephone London whenever we require any special information.
Through this channel the Treasury was able to compile the estensive data submitted to
Congress in connection with the Lease-Lend Bill.
Since 1934 the Treasury has availed itself of the services of an American Foreign sub-

Service Officer in London to submit special reports upon financial and monetary

jects. Such officer has also been used for liaison functions with the British
Treasury in London. Since the coming of Sir Frederick Phillips and his assistants

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to the United States, practically all of the liaison work has been performed in

Washington.

SECURITIES

As a result of suggestions made by the Treasury, working in conjunction with the

Securities and Exchange Commission, the Chancellor of the Exchequer sent to the

United States in the Autumn of 1939 a British security expert to manage the sale in
this country of dollar securities to which the British Government was taking title.
This representative continues to dispose of officially owned securities, carefully
avoiding any operations which might adversely affect our market, soliciting such
professional advice as may be desired, and keeping the Treasury currently informed of
his transactions. Toward such end, the security agent in New York provides the
Treasury, through the British Embassy in Washington, daily with one statement showing
total sales of securities, indicating the number of shares and the dollar proceeds,
and secondly an itemized list by name and amount of all securities sold each day.
The New York branch of a Canadian bank serves as the depositary for the securities
handled under this system. At the beginning of this arrangement, the British Treasury
provided the American Treasury with a detailed list of all American securities registered with the British Government. The agent in New York issues to the press a statement of those securities which are vested from time to time, and has once a month since
the beginning of the present year given out statements as to those securities which
are completely liquidated.
DIRECT INVESTMENTS

At the suggestion of the Treasury the British Government sent to this country at
the end of January, Sir Edward Peacock, a director of the Bank of England and head of
the banking firm of Baring Brothers to oversee the liquidation of British direct
investments in the United States. Assisted by the staff of Mr. Gifford, the agent
who is disposing of listed securities, Sir Edward Peacock has now begun his efforts
toward evaluating and selling British direct investments. He has conferred closely
with the Treasury and the S. E. C. and his various propositions are having the study
of the Treasury's General Counsel before being consummated.
PURCHASES

Upon the Treasury's recommendation, the President set up in November 1939 an

informal committee to be the exclusive liaison body of this Government dealing with
the representatives of foreign Governments interested in the purchase of war materials
in the United States. Representatives of the Treasury, War and Navy Departments constitute this committee, which reports to the President through one of his Administrative assistants. The three primary purposes of this committee were to study and

advise on the availability of the desired articles; to arrange priorities; and to

coordinate purchases in such a manner as to reduce price upsets that might result from
disorganized and competitive purchasing. It has been the Treasury's policy to encourage the British Government to send to this country a qualified purchasing commission to represent that Government in buying war materials. The Secretary himself
has close personal contact with the head of this commission.

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-3- NATIONAL DEFENSE

As the national defense program of the United States developed, together with
the increasing demands of the British Empire for arms, ammunition, and materials of
war, it became evident that increasing attention must be given to integrating British
purchases with those of the United States. To this end the Treasury, through its
representative on the President's Liaison Committee, has worked continuously with the
British Purchasing Commission with the following general objectives: The establishment
of a system of preliminary clearance on orders to be placed so that they could be

considered and acted upon in conjunction with Army and Navy purchases of the same

items or from the same suppliers; the institution of a system, through the Advisory
Commission to the Council of National Defense, of investigating alternative sources
of supply so as to avoid concentrating British orders in large suppliers who were
already overloaded; the development with representatives of the British Purchasing
Commission of long-range programs for various products to assist the Advisory
Commission to the Council of National Defense and the Army and Navy in determining

production bottlenecks which would haveremedied
to be through additional plant

expansion: the institution of standardization conferences intended to concentrate
United States and British orders on products of identical design so that additional
capacity created by the British for their orders would be useful to the United States
in case of emergency.

STATISTICS

Continuous contact is maintained by the Treasury Department with the statistical
taff of the British Purchasing Commission. Information is obtained periodically
from the Commission regarding purchases in the United States by the British Empire
Governments. Weekly statements are received convering in dollar volume the itemised
purchases by the British Empire Governments through the Commission the itemised
purchases made by these Governments with the knowledge of the Commission but not

through its facilities, and inquiries made by the Commission or with its knowledge
for future purchases. Similar statements are received showing, by itemized contracts,
the dollar volume of deliveries made with respect to orders placed by Great Britain
through the Commission. The data with respect to contracts for andeliveries of
airplanes and airplane parts are specially detailed and useful in connection with
the American defense program. Each week there is a report showing commitments by

British Empire Governments for capital expenditures in the United States and for
extraordinary charges designed to expedite deliveries from American companies. A
monthly statement shows the amount of British payments made to date, the value of
orders to date, and the residual amount of balances due, together with the estimated
schedule of future payments.

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Division of Monetary Research

Date April 3, 1941

19

Secretary Morgenthau

Applying a new formula for estimating silver
production in the United States (devised by
Mr. Gunter of this Division) our estimate is that
the production of silver in the United States in
1941 will be 74 million ounces (U.S. produced
about 72 million ounces in 1940) provided no
drastic changes occur in the international situation.

Under circumstances of an expanding busi-

ness activity, such economic justification as

may have existed for the purchase of domestic

silver has disappeared. Even the political consideration, which in the past has been decisive,
has, I believe, greatly diminished in importance.
I am wondering whether the time is not ap-

propriate to initiate a move to alter existing
legislation to return to the discretionary price

for domestic silver (by Presidential Proclamation)
so that the price paid for domestic silver can be

reduced. The financial and business community
would be pleased and the public would interpret

it as additional protection against inflation.

MR. WHITE

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE March 10, 1941
Mr. White
TO

FROM

John W. Gunter

Subject: A new equation for estimating silver production in
the United States.

In order to facilitate the prediction of silver production

in the United States, an estimating equation was developed on
the basis of the data for the period from 1924 through 1940.
The fundamental problem in formulating a reliable equation for

estimating silver production is to determine what factors are
most closely associated with silver production. It is also
necessary that the magnitude of these factors be predictable
with considerable accuracy so that a reliable forecast can be
made.

There is no great difficulty in selecting the factors
closely associated with the production of silver. Quite obviously, the output of silver is likely to vary with the price
of silver, the production of copper, lead, and sinc, and industrial production. Calculation of the coefficients of correlation

for each of these variables supports the expectation of their
close association with silver production. Over the whole period
from 1924 to 1940, the coefficient of correlation of the price
of silver and silver production is .81, of copper production
and silver production, .85, and of lead production and silver
production, .60. A comprehensive variable, industrial production,
was considered because such a variable is easier to predict than
a simple variable, such as copper production. Here a coefficient
of .86 was obtained. Apparently the price of silver, copper production and industrial production are worthy of further consideration for our purposes.
For convenience, the following symbols were assigned the
various variables:
X1

= silver production in million ounces

X2

= price of silver (Mint price)

X3

X4

X5

copper production (Federal Reserve
index)

lead production (Federal Reserve
index)

industrial production (Federal
Reserve index)

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Research

Simple correlations of these factors with silver production are as
follows:

.81

=

12
=

.85

-

.60

13
14

.86

=

15

The next step in the formulation of an estimating equation is
to determine how these variables act jointly, as shown by multiple

correlations. Multiple correlations involving X1, X2, X3, and X1,
X2, X5 were calculated. The results are as follows:
=

.97

=

.91

R1.23

R1.25

The estimating equations are:

I. X1 = -2.043 + .5273X2 t .2425X3
II. X1 = -21.985 + .4185X2 .5639X5
The probable range of error as shown by the standard errors of estimate
are:
=

* 3.65

=

+ 6.52

SI

SII

Superior results with copper production and the price of silver indicate
that Equation I is preferable for our purposes, in spite of the fact
that greater difficulty must be experienced in forecasting copper production than in forecasting industrial production.
Another aspect of the problem was considered without satisfactory

results. An examination of the data reveals that there is apparently

some tendency for silver production to become more inelastic at higher

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Research

prices. Attempts to allow for this tendency were made by substituting roots, logarithms, and exponents for the arithmetic price
of silver in these equations. The question will require additional
consideration in a future study of the effect of changes in the
price of silver on production.
A significant improvement in our results was obtained by lagging

the effect of silver prices on silver production. On theoretical

grounds a distributed lag seemed reasonable. It is normal to expect

that a period of gestation will elapse before a rise in the price of
silver exerts its full effect on production. And similarly, a fall
in the price of silver will not have its full effect immediately as

considerable disinvestment could take place only slowly. An examination of previous results suggested a three-year distributed lag.
A change in price was allowed to have 50 percent of its effect the
first year, 75 percent by the second year and 100 percent by the
third. The results were quite satisfactory as the new multiple
coefficient was .99/. Calling the new variable x6, the estimating
equation is

III. X1 = -7.623 + .1781X3 t .7308X6
The estimates based on this equation, compared with actual silver

production, are given in Table I. It will be noted that the maxi-

mum error is only 3.6 million ounces, an error of 5 percent. The
standard error, SIII, is 2.07 million ounces. Two standard errors

are a sufficient range to include all the errors.

A comparison of these results shows that the estimates based
on Equation III are best in 9 cases, intermediate in 6 cases, and
worst in 2 cases. Moreover, the total amount by which it was
superior in the 9 cases is more than twice the total amount by
which the other equations were superior in the other 8 cases.

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Research

Table I
Actual Silver Production Compared with Estimates
1924 - 1940

(Millions of ounces)

1 Equation 1 Error
1/

1933

30.9
24.0
23.0

64.1
67.1
64.6
59.7
63.9
64.9
44.9
33.4
22.0
24.7

1934

32.7

35.4

1935

45.9

1936

1939

63.8
71.9
62.7
65.1

1940

71.7

51.8
62.9
71.8
54.1
62.0
69.8

1924

65.4

1925

66.2

1926
1927
1928
1929

1930
1931
1932

1937
1938

62.7
60.4
58.5
61.3
50.7

:

I

: Estimating :

$ Estimating:

: Equation : Error : Equation : Error :
II
III
3/
2/ 1
:

: Estimating :

1

52.3
58.2
58.1
55.0
58.1
62.2
45.2

13.1
8.0

-1.5

-1.7
-2.7
-5.9

32.4
22.4
31.6
42.5
58.0

0.9

68.7

-409

74.4
54.8
67.4
75.4

-2.5

1.3

-0.9
-1.9
0.7

-5.4
-3.6
5.8

-2.5
2.0

0.1
8.6
3.1
1.9

ST = 3.65

64.0
66.1
64.8
61.4
61.5
61.2
47.2
34.2
21.8
21.8
34.4
48.6
63.9
72.7
61.0
64.2
68.1

4.6

5.4
0.4

-0.9
5.5
1.6

-8.6
-9.8
-12.1

7.9

-2.3
-3.7
SII

=

6.52

S

III

1.4
0.1

-2.1
-1.0
-3.0
0.1

3.5

-3.3
2.2
1.2

-1.7
-2.7
-0.1
-0.8
1.7
0.9

3.6
=

1 Independent variables are silver price and copper production

2 Independent variables are silver price and industrial production
3/ production.
Independent variables are silver price with distributed lag and copper
Source: Minerals Yearbook and Computations.

I

Year

:Production

:

: Silver

2.07

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Research

Estimated silver production for 1941

The experience of 1924 to 1940 indicates that Equation III

can be used with considerable assurance in forecasting the produc-

tion of silver. Our estimate of the production of silver in the

United States in 1941 is based on the assumption that the present

price of silver will continue and that copper production will reach
a new high level. Table II shows the effect that various increases
in copper production are likely to have in accordance with Equation
III.

70.1
71.3
72.6

5

10
15

#

#

*

73.8 I

20

4.1
4.1
4.1
4.1

:

in copper production t production $

Increase over expected
in 1940 (68.1)

:

Percent Increase

Table II
: Expected silver

2

2.0
3.2
4.5
5.7

* Margin of error is 2 standard errors or approximately the 95

percent fiducial limits. Unit is million ounces.

In 1940 silver production was 71.7 million ounces. This is 3.6

million ounces above the output expected in 1940. It would seem from

this situation that factors not considered in Equation III were opera-

ting in 1940 to cause production to be above what normally would be
expected in accordance with Equation III. This statement assumes that
this margin of error is not random (due to errors of measurement, etc.)
If this assumption is true, it would be possible to make a forecast by
adding the movement indicated by Equation III to the actual production
in 1940, rather than the expected. The results are shown in the following table:

15

20

:

10

:

5

Expected silver
production
73.7
74.9
76.2
77.4

:

copper production

Table III
:

Percent increase in

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Research

The first method of forecasting is preferable since the
standard error provides a range to take care of either random

fluctuation or variation due to real factors not accounted for

in Equation III. In view of conditions in 1940, it is likely
that production will be above normal in 1941. A reasonable

estimate at this time will be 74 million ounces.

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March 10, 1941
Mr. George Mass

Secretary Morgenthan

When may I expect from you on analysis of the

Gano Dunn report on steel capacity of this country?

FriReport submitted
3/14/41

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March 10, 1941
Mr. George Haas

Secretary Morgenthau

I would like to write a letter to the President
about the way imported commodities have steadily increased,

and as far as I know we are not doing anything about it.
It seems to me that we certainly ought to do something
about those particular imported commodities, such as sugar
and 00008, OF any other commodities which come from either

Central or South America. I do not see why they should go

up if there isn't speculation going on. I can understand
that there might be a good reason why commodities coming

from India should be going up in price, but certainly not
from either Central or South America if there is not specule-

tion in futures. (See letter to Pres. dated 3/1/41)

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March 10, 1941

My dear General:

I would like to see the President
Thursday morning (March 13th) with John

Sullivan to talk about the Tax Bill.

I

will need about half an hour.
,

Sincerely,

please.

(gd) Henry
General Edwin M. Watson,

Secretary to The President,
The White House.

500

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March 10, 1941

My dear General:

I would like to see the President
Thursday morning (March 13th) with John

Sullivan to talk about the Tax Bill. I
will need about half an hour.
Sincerely,

,

please.

(agd) Henry

General Edwin M. Watson,

Secretary to The President,
The White House.

/

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March 10, 1941

* dear Generals

I would like to see the President
Thursday morning (March 18th) with John

Sullivan to talk about the Tax Bill.

I

will need about half an hour.
Sincerely,

please.

(ajd) Henry

General Edwin H. Watson,

Secretary to The President,

The White House.

/

286
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 10, 1941
TO

Mrs. Klotz
Mr. Morgenthau

I want to send a copy of my letter to the
President telling him of the cash-on-the-barrelhead
era coming to an end to Secretaries Knox and Stimson.

I believe that one went to Secretary Hull via Dean
Acheson, but you can check up on that. I would also

like to send one to Hopkins. Please prepare letters
of transmittal in each case for my signature.

(Copies sent to Secretaries
Knox and Stimson and Harry
Hopkins on 3/10/41)

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March 10, 1941

Dear Harry:

For your confidential information,
I am enclosing herewith copy of a letter
which I sent to the President on March 5th.
Yours sincerely,

(Regree Henry

Honorable Harry Hopkins,
The White House.

1255

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March 10, 1941

1

Don't Harrys

For your confidential information,

I - enclosing herewith copy of a letter
which I sent to the President on March 5th.
Yours sincerely,

(signed) Henry

Henorable Harry Hopkins,
The White House.

a/

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COPY
March 5, 1941
My dear Mr. President:

With the signing of the Lend-Lease Bill the period of

cash-on-the-barrelhead will come to an end for the great bulk
of foreign government orders in this country. Your appointment
of an advisory committee, to assist you in administering the

provisions of the bill, means that a vital new phase of our offort has begun. I shall be delighted to serve as a member of

this committee.

Complete coordination of all foreign buying will, in my

opinion, be even more necessary under the new system than under

the old cash sales plan. You may remember that at the first
meeting of the newly constituted advisory committee, on March 1,
I brought to your attention the problem of Russian purchasing,
and you said that you felt this came within the scope of the new
committee's work. I think that the same considerations should
apply just as much to the Dutch and the Canadians, who will continue to pay cash, as to the British and others who will come
under the Lend-Lease procedure. It seems to me that all foreign
government purchasing, commercial as well as military, can be
handled more efficiently and fitted more smoothly into United
States production if this purchasing is coordinated in one place.

Therefore, I should like to suggest that all the complex

liaison work on foreign purchases, which has been done in the
Treasury for the past two and a quarter years, should be consolidated immediately and completely with the work to be done by
Harry Hopkins as Secretary of the new advisory committee. This

will relieve me of all direct responsibility with respect to

foreign purchases, except for the great and continuing responsibility that now faces all the committee members alike. I have
already begun to turn over to Harry Hopkins a part of the

foreign purchase work we have been doing, and; complying with

the request stated in your letter of February 25, I have offered

him the assistance of anyone he needs in the Treasury.

Faithfully,
(signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.
The President,
The White House.

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March 10, 1941

Dear Frank:

For your confidential information,
I am enclosing herewith copy of a letter
which I sent to the President on March 5th.
Yours sincerely,

(Refe ) Henry

Honorable Frank Knox,

Secretary of the Navy.

By - 1255

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March 10,1941

Dear Freaks

For your confidential information,

I - enclosing harowith copy of a letter
which 1 sent to the President on March 5th.
Yours sincerely,

(and) Henry

Henorable Frank Knox,

Secretary of the Havy.

n Manager

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March 10, 1941

Dear Henry:

For your confidential information,
I am enclosing herewith copy of a letter
which I sent to the President on March 5th.
Yours sincerely,

(pyes) Henry
Honorable Henry L. Stimson,
Secretary of War.

- 12"

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March 10, 1941

Dear Henry:

For your confidential information,
I am enclosing herewith copy of a letter
which I sent to the President on March 5th.
Yours sincerely,

(signed) Henry

Honorable Henry L. Stimson,
Secretary of War.

/

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WAR DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON

March 10, 1941.

Dear Henry:

I have received the copy of your

confidential letter to the President of March 5th.
I think you have every reason for feeling gratified
that you have been able to carry so well this
critically important and heavy burden during the
two years that it has been lying on your shoulders.
I congratulate you.

Faithfully yours,

Henry L Shinson
Secretary of War.

Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

Traft 5th March 1941
(Received from Mr. Pinsentatin10
thea.m.,
British
Embassy
by Under Secretary Bell
March
26, 1941.)

295

R

AGREEMENT MODIFYING "INTER-BANK" AGREEMENT

OF 10TH OF MARCH, 1939

day
T H I S AGREEMENT is made the
1941 BETWEEN
THE HONGKONG AND

of

SHANGHAI BANKING CORPORATION a Company incorporated under

and by virtue of Ordinances of the Colony of Hong Kong whose

London Office is situate at 9 Gracechurch Street in the City
of London (hereinafter called "the Hongkong Bank") of the
first part THE CHARTERED BANK OF INDIA, AUSTRALIA AND CHINA

whose registered office is situate at 38 Bishopsgate in the
City of London (hereinafter called "the Chartered Bank") of
the second part THE BANK OF CHINA a Company incorporated

under the laws of China whose registered office is situate at
Kunming in the Republic of China and whose London Office is

situate at 85 Gracechurch Street aforesaid of the third part
and THE BANK OF COMMUNICATIONS a Company incorporated under

the laws of China whose registered office is situate at
Chungking in the Republic of China of the fourth part and is
supplemental to an Agreement (hereinafter referred to as "the
Principal Agreement") dated the 10th day of March 1939 and
made between the same parties

WHEREAS by an Agreement (hereinafter called "the
New Agreement") dated the

day of

1941 and made between the National Government of the Republic

of China of the first part, the Central Bank of China of the
second part and the Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury

(hereinafter referred to as "the Treasury") of the third part
further provision has been made and a New Fund set up for checking
undue fluctuations in the exchange value of the Chinese yuan in

relation to sterling
AND WHEREAS by an Agreement dated the
day of

1941 and made between the National

Government of the Republic of China of the first part, the
Central Bank of China of the second part and the Secretary of

296

the Treasury of the United States of the third part, provision
has been made and a New Fund set up for the stabilization of

the Chinese yuan in relation to United States dollars.
AND WHEREAS the British Banks and the Chinese Banks

are entering into this Agreement with a view to co-ordinating
the operation of the said New Funds and of the Fund set up
under the Principal Agreement (which last mentioned Fund is

hereinafter referred to as "the 1939 Fund").

N 0 W IT IS HEREBY AGREED as follows :1.

AS from the date on which this Agreement comes into force
until the determination of the New Agreement the 1939 Fund
shall be managed and controlled and its assets applied by the

Stabilization Board (hereinafter called "the Board") established
for the purposes of the New Agreement in accordance with the
provisions of the New Agreement and accordingly during that
period the Sterling Account, the Chinese Dollar Accounts and
the Sterling Income Account opened under the Principal

Agreement shall be under the control of the Board and shall
be operated in accordance with the directions of the Board.
2.

THE Principal Agreement is hereby renewed for a period
of six months from the 31st day of March 1941 and thereafter

for such further periods of six months as are necessary to
ensure that it does not expire until not less than seven days
after the determination of the New Agreement but as from the
date on which this Agreement comes into force until the
determination of the New Agreement all the provisions of
the Principal Agreement and the powers and duties of the
Management Committee thereunder are suspended.
3.

ON the date of the determination of the New Agreement

the provisions of the Principal Agreement shall revive in

full force subject only to the modifications set out in the
following clause of this Agreement and shall apply, in the
2.

297
absence of any other appointments and so far as practicable,
to the Management Committee as it was constituted immediately

before such suspension and to the 1939 Fund, the Sterling
Account, the Chinese Dollar Accounts and the Sterling Income

Account as they stand after all operations thereon and
applications thereof have been made under the provisions of
the New Agreement.
4.

THE modifications of the Principal Agreement which are

to take effect on the revival of the Principal Agreement
under Clause 3 are as follows :(a) Clause 3 shall be amended by adding after the word
"Shanghai" the words "and on such other markets as the
Management Committee, with the consent of H1s Majesty's Treasury
may direct".

(b) Clause 4 (a) shall be amended by substituting for the
words "Shanghai or Hong Kong for account of the Fund in the
Hongkong Bank or the Chartered Bank or in both such Banks"

the words "such place or places and in such Bank or Banks
as the Management Committee may with the consent of His

Majesty's Treasury direct".
(c) Clause 18 shall be amended :

(a) by substituting in paragraph (a) thereof for the
word "standing" the words "remaining after application under the provisions of an Agreement dated the
day of

and made between the

National Government of the Republic of China of the

first part, the Central Bank of China of the second
part and the Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury

of the third part"
(b) by adding in paragraph (b) thereof after the word
"assets" the words "remaining as aforesaid" and

(c) by substituting in paragraph (b) thereof for the
5.

word "standing" the words "remaining as aforesaid".
THIS agreement shall come into force on such date--, not
earlier than the date on which the Board is established, as

the Treasury may determine by notice in writing given to the
British Banks and the Chinese Banks.

298
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION TO

SECRETARY OF STATE

DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

In reply refer to

EA 811.24 Raw

March 10, 1941

Materials/1541

The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses
a copy of telegram no. 34 dated March 10, 1941 from the
American Consul at Hanoi, French Indochina, reporting
that the steamship Ensley sailed March 8 with balance
of rubber purchased under the contract of December 2,

1940 but without the 350 tons of trade rubber covered by
the Department's telegram no. 8 of March 7.
Enclosure:

No. 34 from Hanoi,

March 10.

299

GRAY

PAW

HANOI VIA N.R.

Dated March 10,1941

Rec'd 5:20 a.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

34, March 10, 8 a.m.

Department's telegram No. 8, March 7, 4 p.m.
Saigon informs ME ENSLEY sailed March 8th and prior

to receipt of Department's ttlegram with balance of contract
rubber.
REED
KLP

300
(CONFIDENTIAL)
PARAPHRASE

A confidential telegram dated March 10, 1941 from
Consul Reed at Hanoi reads substantially as follows:
Indochina and the Netherlands East Indies are concluding an arrangement according to which the exports

of rubber to Japan will be limited to Japan's established
needs for domestic consumption. In 1941 Indochina will
export to Japan approximately 25,000 tons of rubber and

the Netherlands Indies and Malaya will so reduce their
rubber exports to Japan that Japan's established needs
of rubber will not be exceeded.

eh:copy

301
THIRTY THREE LIBERTY STREET
NEW YORK

March 10, 1941.

Dear Secretary Morgenthau:

Last Friday I was a guest at the luncheon of the
Eastern Regional Conference of the American Bankers Association.
There were about one thousand people present. W. Randolph
Burgess was the speaker, but I was asked to respond to my

introduction to the group. I spoke only for a few minutes, but
as the meat of what I said referred to Treasury financing, and
as it has been commented upon a little in the press, I thought
you might like to know just what your "fiscal agent" was talking
about. This is the way it went, I think:
"There are one or two things I would
like to say to you however. You are having
as part of your conference program a discussion
of the banks and the financing of national

defense. I assume that the financing of
plant facilities and of defense contracts
has been a subject of your consideration.
There is another aspect of the financing
of national defense in which the banks
have an important part to play. I am
speaking of the financing of the government
itself. You have also discussed this
subject, but generally there has not been
much time given to the place of the banks
in this area of the defense effort.
"Perhaps it is because the financing
to the primary job of increasing our
military establishment. The expansion
has to be financed and that is that. If
we do not do it one way, we will do it

of the government 18 BO clearly secondary

another.

"The ways of doing it, except in their

details, are few. The tremendous sums
which the government is spending and is

2.

Honorable Henry Morgenthau,

March 10, 1941.

302
going to spend can be financed by taxation,
by borrowing the savings of the country, and

by the use of bank credit - that is leaving

out the printing press. Now, rightly I think,

the emphasis has been on increasing the
government's revenue through taxation and on
borrowing the accumulated and current savings

of the country. But, of course, there will
still be financing to be done through the
credit system. The credit system will have
to be used because of its convenience and
flexibility as a source of short-term funds,
and it may have to be used to obtain some
part of the funds of longer term.
"Here it seems to me 18 an opportunity
for the banks to look beyond their own
immediate interests and to determine what

18 their proper part in the national financial

program. The floating of successive issues
of government securities in this emergency

cannot be a continuous game of poker between
the Treasury and the banks or other purchasers.

It has got to be a part of the defense program
in which government and business work together,
just as they are now doing in the field of
production. That requires fair dealing on
both sides and bankers must be clear as to

their part and their role. I commend this
subject to you for your consideration. You
would not want, you cannot afford, even to seem
to try to extract an unwarranted profit out of
the pressing needs of your government in the

greatest crisis our world has ever known."

I thought that would be a useful note to strike with the
bankers at this time.

Yours faithfully,

(Signed) Allan Sproul.
Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

303
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Wiley

March 10, 1941

FBI reports that for the period between January 2 and 31, 1941, the Banco
di Napoli Trust Company withdrew from the Corn Exchange Bank $3,305,000, mainly

in denominations of $20, $50, and $100, insisting upon old bills. Furthermore,
for the two weeks ending January 29 and February 5, 1941, the Banco di Napoli
sold $3,151,000 of domestic bonds for foreign account and delivered $2,500,000,

apparently of the proceeds, mostly in bills of small denomination to Luigi

Podesta, Director of the Italian Exchange Institute in the United States. Mr.
McKeon of Federal Reserve says that the cash withdrawals by the Banco di Napoli
were very much more than would be required by the usual operations of the Bank
and says this may be a violation of the Emergency Banking Regulation No. 23 and
the anti-hoarding statute.

304
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE March 10, 1941
Secretary Morgenthan
Mr. Cochran

FROM

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in the
account of the Central Corporation of Banking Companies, Budapest, maintained with
the First National Bank of Boston, Boston, Massachusetts.
Date

March 10

Paid To

Amount Debited
$800,000

Riggs National Bank, Wash-

ington, D. C.. for account

of the Hungarian Legation,
Washington, D. C.

nml

305
gies

Chauncey

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

March 10, 1941.

Secretary Morgenthan
FROM Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in the

account of the Bank for International Settlements, Basle, by order of the National
Bank of Hungary, Budapest.

Date

March 10

Amount Debited
$600,000

Paid To

Rigge National Bank, Wash-

ington, D. C., for account

of the Royal Hungarian Loga
tion, Washington, D. C., by
order of the National Bank of
Hungary, Budapest.

of M.P.

306
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 10, 1941.

TO

Secretary Mor genthau

FROM Mr. Coohran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in the
account of the Central Corporation of Banking Companies, Budspest, maintained with
the Guaranty Trust Company of New York.

Date

March 10

Amount Debited
$100,000

Paid To

Riggs National Bank, Wash-

ington, D. C., for account

of the Hungarian Legation,
Washington, D. C.

B. MIP.

307
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 10, 1941
wind
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

£73,000

£ 8,000

Open market sterling was again quoted at 4.03-1/2. The only reported transaction
consisted of a sale of £1,000 to a commercial concern.
The Argentine free peso rate in New York remained at .2300. It was reported
that the first auction of foreign exchange for "non-essential" imports into Argentina
took place last Friday in Buenos Aires, and that the Argentine branch of an American
bank made substantial purchases of dollars for account of its clients at an average
rate of 4.44 pesos to the dollar ( equivalent to $.2252). The dollar exchange used
in the auction, it will be recalled, represents the proceeds of certain Argentine
exports, which had to be surrendered under the new regulations to the Argentine Control
it 4.2182 pesos to the dollar ($.2370).
In New York, the closing rates for the foreign currencies listed below were as
follows:

Canadian dollar
Swiss franc (commercial)
Swedish krona

15% discount
.2323

2384-1/2

Lira

.4005
.0505
.0505
.2066

Mexican peso
Cuban peso

6-5/8% discount

Reichamark

Brazilian milreis (free)

In Shanghai, the yuan in terms of our currency was unchanged at 5-1/2t, and
sterling moved off to 3.89, a decline of 2d.
There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.
No new gold engagements were reported.

The prices fixed in London for spot and forward silver were again unchanged
at 23-3/8d and 23-5/16d respectively. The U.S. equivalents were 42.44 and 42.33
Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at 34-3/44.
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35+
We made one purchase of silver amounting to 75,000 ounces under the Silver Purchase

Act. This consisted of new production from foreignDeountries, for forward delivery.

308
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

gul

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 10, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

Mr. Haae

The attached tables and chart indicate that a decline
of 16,000 from the preceding week brought Work Projects Administration employment to 1,869,000 persons during the
week ended February 26, 1941. This represents a decrease
of 26,000 from the number employed at the end of January.
Attachments

309

WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

Number of Workers
Employed - Monthly
United States
Number of Workers

(In thousands)

1938

July
August
September
October
November
December
1939

January
February
March

April
May

June

July
August
September

October
November
December
1940

January

February
March

April
May

June

July
August
September

October
November
December
1941

January
February

3,053
3,171

3,228
3,346
3,287
3,094
2,986
3,043
2,980
2,751
2,600
2,551
2,200
1,842
1,790
1,902
2,024
2,152
2,266
2,324
2,288
2,092
1,926

1,665
1,701
1,691

1,704
1,779
1,820
1,878

1,895
1,869

Source: Work Projects Administration

Monthly figures are weekly figures for the latest week of
the month.

They include certified and noncertified workers.

310
WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

Number of Workers Employed - Weekly

United States

Number of Workers

Week ending

(In thousands)

1940-41

1,608
1,620

July 3
July 10
July 17
July 24
July 31

1,690
1,701

August 7
August 14
August 21
August 28

1,709
1,708
1,698
1,691

September 4
September 11
September 18
September 25

1,690
1,687
1,689
1,704

October 2
October 9
October 16
October 23
October 30

1,747

November 6
November 13
November 20
November 27

1,783
1,785

December 4
December 11
December 18
December 25

1,832
1,855

January 1
January 8
January 15

1,880

1,659

1,762
1,768

1,776
1,779

1,806

1,820

1,872
1,878
1,887
1,893

January 29

1,896
1,895

February 5
February 12
February 19
February 26

1,892
1,893
1,885
1,869

22

Source: Work Projects Administration

311

WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION
Number of Workers Employed

United States

Monthly V.P.A. Employment

41

Weekly W.P.A. employment

1939

TELLIONS
WORKERS

WILLIONS
3.4

WORKERS

3.4
3.3
3.3

3.2
1.2

3.2
3.2
3.1
3.1

2.0

3.0

2.8
3.0

2.9
2.9
2.8

2.4
2.4

2.0
2.7
2.7

24
2.0
2.0

2.6

25
2.5
2.4
1.6

14

2.4
2.3
2.3
2.2

2.2
1.2

12

2.1
2.1

2.0
2.0
1.9
1.9
1.8
1.0

1.7
1.7

A

1.6

.

was
1935 1936

THE

-I-

Office the Secretary of the Treasury

1.5 JAN.

1937

1938

MAR.

41

SOURCE PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION

MAY

JULY

1939

SEPT

-

1.5

JAN.

JAY

1940

SEPT.

NOV.

JAPAN

MAR.

1941

2 221 az

312

TRICTLY CONNIDENTIAL
ALLISON SHIPMENTS

British
Total

C

Dec. 29 - Jan. 4

8

83

Jan. 12 18

41

Jan. 19 25

33

Jan. 26 - Feb. 1

31

Feb. 2 8

60

Feb. 9 15
Feb. 16 22

30
-

ar. 2 g
TOTAL Dec. 29 - Mar. 8

-

8

E

C

Grand

Total

F

-

1

-

6

292

- 83
- 41
- 33
- 31
- 60

25

1

1

31

32

-

-

77

-

-

-

6

1 293

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.

-

-

2

2

12

2

85

2

43

-

-

-

1

88

-

-

-

-

-

33

1

32

-

26

86

2

1

35

66

2

1

80

80

91

91

3

69 2 - 71
292

total

4

3

Jan. 5 11

Feb. 23 - Mar. 1

Army

18

2 312

77

605

March 10, 1941.

313

RICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
ALLISON ENGINEERING COMPANY

Shipments of Airplane Engines
:

:

Actual

shipments

Estimated shipments

on existing orders

:
1940

January

May 24 - June 22

June 23 - July 20
July 21 - Aug. 17
Aug. 18 - Sept. 14
Sept. 15 - Oct. 12
Oct. 13 - Nov. 9
Nov. 10 - Dec. 7
Dec. 8 - Jan. 4

10
28
43
47

140
263
233
154
228

1941

January 5 - 11.
January 12 - 18
January 19 - 25

January 26 - February 1
February 2 - g
February 9 - 15
February 16 - 22
February 23 - March 1
March 2 8.

85
43
33
32

86
66

80
91
77

March 9 - 31
April

May

332
408
456

June

500

July
September.
October

475
550
625
750

November
December

800
800

August

942

January
February
March

April
May

June

ffice of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.

529
304
225
225

225
124

March 10, 1941.

314
EXPORTS OF PETROLEUN PRODUCTS, SCRAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL
FROM THE UNITED STATES TO JAPAN, RUSSIA, SPAIN, AND GREAT BRITAIN
AS SHOWN BY DEPARTURE PERMITS GRANTED

Week ended March 8, 1941
:

JAPAN

RUSSIA

SPAIN

GREAT BRITAIN

:
WROLEUM PRODUCTS

Fuel and Gas 011 (including
Diesel 011)

100,594 Bbls.

--

--

72,250 Bbls.
23,000 Bbls.

---

---

--

--

12,759 Bbls.

--

--

784 Bbls.
26,181 Bbls.

--

Crude -

Blended or California
High Octane Crude*
All Other Crude
Gasoline -

Gasoline A**
Gasoline B*

--

--

All Other Gasoline

15 Gals.
113,100 Bbls.

bricating Oil Aviation Lubricating Oil***
All Other Lubricating Oil
Tetraethyl Lead ***

--

"Boosters", such as IsoOctane, Iso-Hexane, or
Iso-Pentane

--

---

--

--

--

--

--

--

--

--

8,150 Tons

--

-

1,750 Tons

7,500 Hbls.
30,054 Bbls.

RAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL

Number 1 Heavy Melting Scrap
All Other Scrap

--

fice of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.

March 10, 1941.

urce: Office of Merchant Ship Control, Treasury Department.

Any material from which by commercial distillation there can be separated
more than 3 percent of aviation motor fuel, hydrocarbon or hydrocarbon
mixture - President's regulations of July 26, 1940.

Aviation Gasoline.

As defined in the President's regulations of July 26, 1940.

315
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

CONFIDENTIAL

DATE March 10, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Mr. Haad

LOA
Subject: The Business Situation,

FROM

Week ending March 8, 1941
Summary

(1) Adjusted indexes of business activity rose sharply

in the last week of February and moved slightly above previous
record high levels.
(2) Prices of imported commodities continued to increase
steeply last week carrying the BLS price index of 11 imported
materials up about 10 per cent since early February. Ocean

freight shortage was a primary influence. Prices of domestic

commodities were also somewhat higher.

(3) Steel orders increased in volume during February and
delivery dates have been extended further into the future.
The steel scrap situation 18 assuming increasing importance

in view of the growing tightness in market supplies of pig
iron. Difficulties are being encountered in obtaining adequate
supplies of scrap at the price levels set by the Defense
Commission.
(4) Industry and trade have shown an expansion in inven-

tories, but due to the heavy volume of business, the ratio of

stocks to shipments and sales has actually declined. However,
at the end of January, according to the Conference Board compilations, manufacturers' inventories on a seasonally adjusted
basis were in excess of 1937 peak levels.
(5) Exports of United States merchandise in January rose

slightly above the previous month, due largely to a rise in

aircraft exports to a new record figure. Agricultural ex-

ports dropped slightly under the previous low of last September.

316

-2The general situation

After showing a tendency to level out in the middle of

February, weekly business indexes took a spurt at the end of
the month and moved into new high ground by a narrow margin.

During the past week, scheduled steel production reached a
new record high, and automobile output was maintained at very
high levels despite slight impedimente to production caused

by minor parts shortages. In addition to the high rate of
operations prevailing in heavy industry as a result of the
defense program, textile mills are reported to be unusually
busy and such basic indicators of business activity as electric power production and freight carloadings are making a

strong showing.

Following the priorities recently imposed on aluminum
and machine tools, industry-wide priorities were imposed
during the past week on magnesium, nickel and neoprene (a
synthetic rubber), while it was indicated that maximum
prices soon would be set for steel scrap somewhat below
present market prices and lower than the prices requested
some time ago by the Defense Commission.

The stock market has continued to move in a narrow
range on a small volume of trading, but commodity price indexes have moved higher, largely under the influence of further strength in imported commodities arising in large part
from the tight situation in ocean shipping.
Inventories rise but ratio to business volume declines

With sales volume rising, and concern being felt over

priorities and other factors affecting availability of ma-

terials, a tendency toward inventory accumulation is to be
expected. Thus the seasonally-adjusted index of manufacturers' inventories compiled by the National Industrial
Conference Board showed a further rise of 2.2 per cent in
January to a level slightly above the 1937 peak, and 13.8 per
cent above the January 1940 figure. However, due to the unusually high rate of manufacturers' shipments (33 per cent
above January 1940), the ratio of inventories to shipments is
stated to have been the lowest since 1929.

A decline in the ratio of stocks to sales despite an in-

crease in inventories also 18 shown in data relating to whole-

sale trade compiled by the Department of Commerce. Figures

covering the operations of 2,732 wholesalers showed that although inventories in January were 6 per cent higher than a
year earlier, sales were up no less than 18 per cent. As a
result, the stocks-to-sales ratio dropped to 165 from 184 in

January 1940.

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Department store stocks have risen at a slower rate
than either manufacturers' or wholesalers' inventories.
Thus the seasonally-adjusted index of department store
stocks by January of this year had risen to only 71 per
cent of the 1923-25 average from 68 per cent a year earlier,
while sales on the same basis had risen to 101 from 92.

During
years,
stores
the
depression
stocks,
and
thus department
substantially
cut down on far have shown
little inclination to build stocks up to pre-depression levels despite the

rising volume of sales.

New orders remain high

Our new orders index declined somewhat for the week

ended March 1 although it remained at a high level. All

components were somewhat lower. (See Chart 1.)

Sales of cotton textiles increased markedly last week,
according to market reports, print cloth sales being estimated at 70,000,000 yards, more than three times the current
weekly output of mills.
The steel situation
Recent developments in the steel situation provide no
evidence to support an optimistic picture of steel capacity.
The volume of orders for steel increased further in February,
according to trade reports, the Iron Age reporting an increase of 10 to 25 per cent over the January volume.
Monthly sales figures of the U. S. Steel Corporation have not
yet been received. The average rate of steel operations,
however, increased only fractionally further to 96.3 per cent
of rated capacity in February from 96.1 per cent in the previous month.

The result has been a further congestion of unfilled or-

ders, which the Iron Age characterizes as bordering on

indigestibility. Delivery dates have been extended further
into the future, and an increasing number of mills are booked
into the fourth quarter. In plates and sheets, in which
order backlogs are heaviest in relation to capacity, new busi-

ness now is quite commonly listed for October and November

delivery.

Nickel alloy steels, which are specified in much of the

Army and Navy orders, are most severely restricted for c1vilian consumers, and in these steels a modified form of
priority is in effect, without official announcement. It 18
felt in the trade that some change in specifications may
have to be made soon in defense orders for steels of this

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type to alleviate the current situation. In some quarters

it 18 feared that automobile production this spring may be
seriously hampered by a shortage of certain types of steels.
Market supplies of pig iron, upon which steel mills not

fully integrated must depend for part of their material, are
getting tighter but are not yet critical. Blast furnaces are
apparently operating near the practical limit of capacity,
and repair shutdowns are taking a greater toll. Thus only
202 furnaces were in operation on March 1, as compared with
205 on February 1, and the daily average output was reduced
to 149,924 tons in February from 150,441 tons in the previous
month. During the two-day strike at the Lackawanna plant of
Bethlehem Steel, all 5 blast furnaces were banked, and only

6 of the 30 open-hearth steel furnaces were in operation.

In view of the growing tightness in pig iron supplies,

the supply of steel scrap, which may be substituted for pig
iron in making steel, is assuming a position of increasing
importance. A critical conflict has arisen between the
necessity of increasing the collection of steel scrap and

the desire of the Administration to forestall price inflation.

The action of the Defense Commission some time ago to reduce

scrap prices by suggesting lower quotations has been effective in holding prices down, but it apparently has slowed up

the collection of scrap. In view of this situation, the

announcement of the Defense Commission last week that max-

imum prices on steel scrap would soon be set at prices below current quotations, although it may encourage some selling

of scrap currently held by dealers, may further slow up the

movement of scrap to market.

Railroad traffic and earnings improving

The high rate of operations at steel mills and in other
heavy industries has contributed greatly to a continuing improvement in railroad freight traffic and earnings. Thus,
freight carloadings in the week ended March 1 rose more than
seasonally to the highest level since the beginning of last

November, while net railway operating income figures reported
for January showed the best results for that month since 1929.

(See Chart 2.) Due to seasonal factors, railroad earnings

normally show a decline in January from the previous month.
However, in comparison with the same month of the previous
year, January net railway operating income showed a gain
of 36 per cent.

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-5Recently the Transportation Commissioner of the National
Defense Commission estimated that freight carloadings for the
year 1941 would show an increase of 9.4 per cent over 1940.
Thus far in 1941, freight carloadings have run 11.2 per cent
above 1940. This gain over year-earlier levels appears

likely to widen in the near future, as freight traffic made a

relatively poor showing last March and April. Later on in
the year, wide gains over year-earlier levels will be more
difficult to maintain because of the improvement that occurred
in freight traffic after April 1940. On the other hand, a
further tightening of the ocean shipping situation could
possibly divert considerable additional freight to the railroads.
In keeping with the improvement in traffic and earnings,
railroad equipment purchases have been stepped up in recent
months. However, the spurt in freight car orders in January
was followed by a decline in February, although orders were
still more than twice as large as in February 1940. New
freight cars on order at the beginning of February totaled
41,600 or about 7,000 more than on February 1, 1940, and the
largest number for that date for any time in the past 15 years.
Locomotive orders rose to 127 in February from 78 in the
previous month. This volume of locomotive orders has been exceeded in only three months since January 1930.
Record aircraft shipments feature January exports

Due chiefly to a rise in aircraft exports to the highest

monthly figure on record, total exports of United States

merchandise in January ran counter to the usual seasonal
trend and exceeded the previous month by 1 per cent. As a
result, exports in January totaled $318,000,000 as compared
with $315,000,000 in the previous month and $361,000,000 in
January 1940 -- the peak month since the outbreak of the war.
Although moderate declines occurred in exports of such
important items as machinery and iron and steel, war mate-

rials industries continued to play the leading role in our
export trade, while movement of agricultural products to
foreign markets fell to a new low. (See Chart 3.)

The gain in aircraft exports carried the Januer 7 figure
for this item to $41,000,000, or 9 per cent above the previous record high reached last August. (Refer to Chart 3.)

On the other hand, machinery exports declined moderately due

to a drop of $4,000,000 in metal working machinery, while
iron and steel exports receded to the lowest level since last

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July. Exports of steel sorap continued the decline which
began with institution of embargo measures last October and
amounted to less than $1,000,000 for the first time since
January 1937.

Chiefly as a result of a further decline in cotton ex-

ports, agricultural products shipped to foreign markets in

January declined 14 per cent below December's figure and

dipped a trifle under the previous low touched last September.
The war has cut into our export trade in agricultural products to such an extent that they comprised only 7 per cent
of total exports in January, as compared with an average of
22 per cent in the 12 months prior to the outbreak of hostilities in September 1939.

Further increase in freight awaiting export in New York Harbor
Lighterage freight in storage and on hand for unloading

in New York Harbor climbed to a new high of 11,511 carloads

last week (see Chart 4), in spite of the fact that carloads of

freight exported from New York rose very sharply to the highest in our records. (See Chart 5.) Although 5,569 carloads
were exported, receipts of freight for export at New York
(see Chart 5)were even higher, 5,703 cars for the week, another

new high. Receipts of freight for export at 9 other North

Atlantic ports increased moderately.

Nonagricultural employment a new January record

Nonagricultural employment in January was at the highest
level on record for that month, being 3 per cent over January
1929 and 5 per cent over January 1940. The following individual industries employed more workers in January 1941 than in
any month on record (back to 1923):
Percent
Steel

Foundries

Aircraft

Shipbuilding
Brass, bronze and copper
Machine tools
Engines

January 1940

January 1941

473,300
386,400
63,700
74,800
88,300
55,700
40,000

533,600
465,500
138,500
129,600
112,000
80,700
71,100

Increase
13
20

117
73
27

45
78

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-7Prices of imported commodities 10 per cent over early February
Prices of imported commodities continued the steep climb
which has been apparent since early February, the daily price

index for this group showing a gain of 10 per cent in that period. In the week ended March 7 the following individual
price changes were reported (see Chart 6, lower section):

Cocoa: Spot prices increased 12 per cent. Futures higher.
New York importers believe the shipping situation is serious
and likely to become more so. Further ocean freight rate
increases expected. Proposed quota arrangement still an
influence. Russia said to have bought 2,000 tons, and to
have purchased not only most spot and afloat cocoa but also
a considerable quantity out of warehouse.
Burlap: Sharp price increase. London announced that a ship

bound for North Atlantic ports was unlikely to arrive. The
ship carried 1,500 bales of burlap and 7,200 bales of jute.
Shellac: No change in spot price. Included in export license
list last week. Still quoted at nominal levels with few
offerings.

Prices of domestic commodities somewhat higher

Prices of domestic commodities were also higher for the
week ended March 7. (See Chart 6, lower section.) The following individual price changes were reported:

Print cloth: Spot prices increased 6 per cent. Sales in one
day last week 30,000,000 yards. Sales in January the largest since September 1939. Unfilled orders will require the
current rate of production through June. Buying of print
cloth mainly reflects civilian demand.
Cottonseed oil: Spot price increased. Futures higher. Ex-

pectation of reduced imports of vegetable oils from Far East,
especially palm and coconut oil, the main influence. According to Presidential proclamation last week, coconut, palm
kernel oil, copra and palm kernels were placed under export
licensing control.

Lard: Spot price increased. Futures higher. The trade believes that Britain will make large purchases in the United
States of foodstuffs including lard after the passage of
the lend-lease bill.

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Lead: Price raised $2.00 per ton last week, following recent
$3.00 increase, initiated by American Smelting. Lead has
been placed on export licensing list. Imports of foreign
lead averaged 17,068 tons per month in the last 6 months
of 1940 compared with 4,326 tons per month in the first
6 months.

Zinc: No change in spot price, which is nominal. Futures
prices sharply higher. Trading in zinc futures 18 now
banned except for liquidation of open positions. Galvanized
sheet production for the week ended March 1 dropped to 71

per cent of capacity, a new low for 1941, as compared with
77 per cent in the preceding week, due to shortage of zinc.
Weekly business indexes

All but two components of the New York Times index of
business activity showed gains after allowance for seasonal
factors in the week ended March 1. As a result the index

rose 1.0 to 122.6, thereby very slightly exceeding the previous record high for the index.
The principal factors in the rise were contra-seasonal
gains in paperboard and electric power production. The only

components to decline were the adjusted indexes of automobile

and lumber production. The former declined only slightly,
while the latter dropped 5 points due to a contra-seasonal
decline in actual lumber production.

Barron's index of business activity confirmed the rise

in the Times index and advanced to a new high at 131.0 from
130.0 in the previous week.
Preliminary data for the week ended March 8 reveal a
decline in the adjusted index of automobile production due

to a slight decrease in output to 126,000 units, attributed
to some shortage of parts and materials, and a rise of ap-

proximately seasonal proportions in steel ingot production.
During the current week steel operations are scheduled at a
new high of 98.8 per cent of capacity, as compared with 97.5
per cent in the previous week.

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INDEXES OF NEW ORDERS
Combined Index of New Orders and Selected Components
PERCENTAGE

POINTS

PERCENTAGE
POINTS

220
220

210
210

Total

foonbined Indest

1000 100

200
200

190

190

180
180

170
170

160
160

150
150

140

140

130

130

120
120

110

110

100

100

90

80

Total excluding Steel and Textiles
70

70

Steel Orders

20

Testile Ordere
10

1941

1939

RAILROAD SITUATION
SEPT.

AUG.

JULY

JUNE

MAY

APR.

MAR.

FEB.

JAN.

DEC.

NOV.

OCT.

CARS

THOUSANDS

CARS

THOUSANDS

Freight Carloadings
WEEKLY AVERAGES

900

900

800

800

'40
'41
700
700

600
600

'30
500

500

400

400

JULY

JUNE

MAY

APR.

MAR.

FEB.

JAN.

AUG.

SEPT.

NOV.

OCT.

DEC.

DOLLARS
MILL IONS

DOLLARS

MILLIONS

Net Railway Operating Income
CLASS RAILROADS

100

100

80

80

'40

'41

60

60

40

40

39
20

20

0
0

JAN.

MAY

APR.

MAR.

FEB.

JUNE

JULY

AUG.

SEPT.

OCT.

NOV.

DEC.

CARS

THOUSANDS

CARS

THOUSANDS

New Freight Car Orders
20

20

'41

'40

'39

15

15

10

10

5
5

&
0

JAN.

FEB.

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0

APR.

MAY

JUNE

JULY

AUG.

SEPT.

OCT.

NOV.

DEC.

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U.S. TOTAL TRADE AND EXPORTS. BY COMMODITIES
....

1938

1936

1934

DOLLARS

TOTAL TRADE

500

MN

Imports
(Beneral)

Exports

N

100

250

200

150

100

150

Trade Balance

100

-50

-100

1930

1929

1931

1922

1923

1934

1933

1938

1937

1934

1940

1939

1941

EXPORTS OF U.S. MERCHANDISE
Selected Nonagricultural Commodities

Total Nonagricultural

DOLLARS

DOLLARS

Machinery

325

300

275

250

225

200

175

30

150

Aircraft

125

100

75

50

25

JAN MAR MAY JULY SEPT NOV

0

Total Agricultural
DOLLARS

Millions

Selected Agricultural Commodities
DOLLARS
DOLLARS

DOLLARS

Cotton

Tobacco

150

125

100

75

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25

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THOUSANDS

GARLGARS
THOUSANDS

12

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10

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7

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22

DEC.

JAN.

FEB.

MAR.

APR.

MAY

JUNE

6

20

JAY

3

17

34

AUG.

14

SEPT.

28

12

26

OCT.

9

NOV.

23

7

21

DEC.

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MAR.

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3

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EXPORT FREIGHT MOVEMENT
1939

CARLOADS
THOUSANDS

CARLOADS
THOUSANDS

Exports

FROM Now YORK

5

4

3

2

1941

1940

1939

ARLOADS
HOUSANDS

CARLOADS
THOUSANDS

Receipts for Export

6

AT New York®

3

2

AT 9 OTHER NORTH

ATLANTIC PORTS**

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0

1939

1940
AS ESTIMATED FROM DATA OF GENERAL MANAGERS' ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK.

ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN RAILROADS.

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Domestic and Imported
AUGUST 1939 100

1940

94 I

194

JANUARY

FEBRUARY

MARCH

APRIL

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12

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Daily

135

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135

132
132

130

130
128
128

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125

COMMODITIES

125

II IMPORTED
124

COMMODITIES

124
120

120

120

120

115

115

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PER

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CENT

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17 DOMESTIC COMMODITIES

- 52.56

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50

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50

48.30
45.9%
40

40

PRINT GLOTH 31.40

33.3

30

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30

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