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United States Savings Bonds

Comparison of Present Plan with Plan for Reduced Intermediate Fields
Number of
semiannual

periods
held

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12
13

14
15

16
17
18
19

20

Redemption value

Yield during period held
Plan for

Plan for
Present

reduced

plan

intermediate
yields

$75.00

$75.00

75.00
76.00
77.00
78.00
79.00

75.00
75.50
76.00
76.50
77.00

80.00
81.00
82.00
83.00
84.00

Present
plan

reduced

intermediate

Field during remainder
of 10-year period
Plan for
Present
plan

yields

reduced

intermediate
yields

.00%

.00%

2.90%

2.90%

.00

.00

1.33
1.76
1.97
2.09

.67
.88

1.06

3.05
3.07
3.10
3.13
3.17

3.05
3.15
3.25
3.38
3.52

78.00
79.00
80.00
81.00
82.00

2.16
2.21
2.24
2.26
2.28

1.31
1.49
1.62
1.72
1.79

3.21
3.27
3.34
3.42
3.52

3.58
3.66
3.75
3.87
4.01

85.00
86.00
87.00
88.00
90.00

83.00
84.00
85.00
86.00
87.50

2.29
2.29
2.30
2.30
2.45

1.85
1.90
1.93
1.96
2.07

3.64
3.81
4.02
4.31
4.26

4.18
4.41
4.70
5.09
5.41

92.00
94.00
96.00
98.00
100.00

89.00
91.00
93.00
95.00
100.00

2.57
2.67
2.76
2.84
2.90

2.15
2.29
2.40
2.50
2.90

4.21
4.17
4.12
4.08

5.91
6.39
7.39
10.53

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
Yields are nominal annual rates compounded smiannually.

.99

-

-

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United States Savings Bonds
Comparison of Proposed 2 and 2% Percent Appreciation Plans
Number of

semi-annual

periods held
o

1

2
3

4
5

6
7

8

9

10
11
12
13

14
15

16
17

18
19
20

Redemption value
2% plan

21% plan

$82.00

$80.00

82.00
82.20
82.40
82.60
83.00

80.00
80.20
80.40

83.40
84.00
84.60
85.40
86.20

80.80
81.20

81.80
82.40
83.20

84.20

2% plan

2.24%

.00
.24
.32
.36
.49

.00
.25
.33
.50
.60

2.10
2.19
2.29
2.40
2.50

2.36
2.47

.57
.69
.78
.90

.74
.85
.98

2.61
2.70
2.81
2.89
2.99

2.89
3.00
3.09
3.15
3.23

1.36
1.44
1.54
1.66
1.75

3.07

3.33
3.45
3.55
3.62
3.72

1.12

87.20

1.22

92.60
94.20
96.00

100.00

100.00

88.40

1.30

89.80

1.40
1.48

97.80

21% plan

1.99%

86.20

93.00
94.40
96.00

2% plan

.00%

1.00

91.20

2% plan

Yield during remainder
of 10-year period

.00%

85.20

87.20
88.20
89.20
90.40
91.60

97.80

Yield during period held

1.58
1.66
1.76
1.86
1.99

1.14
1.26

1.84
1.93
2.04
2.13
2.24

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
nominal annual rates compound

3.16
3.29
3.39

3.54
3.66
3.88
4.12
4.50
-

2.58
2.68
2.80

3.88
4.02

4.12

4.50
-

Yields are nominal annual rates compounded semiannually.

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
-

10.53
7.39
6.39
5.91

-

4.08
4.12
4.17
4.21

2.90
2.50
2.40
2.29
2.15

2.90
2.84
2.76
2.67
2.57

100.00
95.00
93.00
91.00
89.00

100.00
98.00
96.00
94.00
92.00

20

2.45
2.30
2.30
2.29
2.29

87.50
86.00
85.00
84.00
83.00

90.00
88.00
87.00
86.00
85.00

15

82.00
81.00
80.00
79.00
78.00

84.00
83.00
82.00
81.00
80.00

77.00
76.50
76.00
75.50
75.00

79.00
78.00
77.00
76.00
75.00

$75.00

$75.00

5.41
5.09
4.70
4.41

4.26

4.18

3.64

2.07
1.96
1.93
1.90
1.85

4.01
3.87
3.75
3.66
3.58

3.52
3.42
3.34
3.27
3.21

1.79
1.72
1.62
1.49
1.31

2.28
2.26
2.24

3.52
3.38
3.25
3.15
3.05

3.17
3.13
3.10
3.07
3.05

1.06

2.09
1.97
1.76
1.33

2.90%

2.90%

yields
intermediate
reduced

4.31
4.02
3.81

.99

.88
.67
.00
.00%

2.21

2.16

.00
.00%

yields

yields

plan
Present

Plan for
of 10-year period
Yield during remainder

intermediate
reduced

Plan for

plan
Present

Yield during period held

intermediate
reduced

plan

Present

Plan for
Redemption value

Comparison of Present Plan with Plan for Reduced Intermediate Fields
United States Savings Bonds

19

18

17

16

14
13

12
11

10
9

8

7

6

5

4

3

2

1

0

held
periods
annual
semiNumber of

Vields are nominal annual rates compounded semiannually.

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
-

-

4.50
4.31

4.45
4.17

4.20
4.04

4.01
3.83

2.25
2.15
2.05
1.95
1.85

3.95
3.82
3.73
3.60
3.48

3.69
3.56
3.44
3.35
3.23

1.75
1.65
1.55
1.45
1.35

3.39

3.11
2.99

3.29

3.19
3.09
2.97

2.86
2.74

2.62
2.50
2.38
2.25%

24% plan

2.90
2.78
2.66
2.56

2.44
2.34
2.22
2.12
2.00%

2% plan

of 10-year period
Yield during remainder

3

2.00
1.88
1.78
1.68
1.59
1.49

1.40

1.30
1.19

100.00
98.90
98.00
97.20

96.60
96.00
95.60
95.20
95.00

100.00
98.80
97.90
97.10
96.50
96.00
95.60

95.30
95.00
94.90

1.10

94.90

1.24
1.12

1.00

94.80

.91

1.00
.87
.76

.79
.70
.61

94.80
94.90
95.10
95.50

94.90
95.00
95.10
95.40
95.80

.62
.51
.39
.25
.05

.49
.40
.27
.20
.00

95.90
96.50
97.20
98.00
98.90

96.20
96.80
97.40
98.20
99.00

.00%

.00%

$100.00

$100.00

24% plan

2% plan

21% plan

2% plan

Yield during period held

Redemption value

Comparison of Proposed 2 and 2 Percent Income Plane
United States Savings Bonds

20
19

18
17

16
15
14
13

12
11

10
9

8

7

6

5

my

2

1

o

periods held
semi-annual
Number of

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Been 278

Union Secretary
Ing. Sonna

February 26, 1941
To Presidents, Federal Reserve Banks.
Boston, Mass.
Burgess - New York, N. Y.

Philadelphia, Pa.
Cleveland, Ohio.
Richmond, Va.

Atlanta, Ga.

Chicago, Ill.

St. Louis, Mo.
Minneapolis, Minn.
Kansas City, No.

Dallas, Texas.
San Francisco, Calif.

is mailing you tonight memorandum en proposed savings boat program

of the Treasury. Would appreciate 10 11 you and your staff would
carefully study this program on Monday and Tuesday and let - have
your criticians and suggestions late Tuesday evening by wise.

mass

84
COPY

February 28, 1941

Dear Mr. Martin:

By direction of the Secretary, I am transmitting herewith
a copy of a memorandum covering a proposed savings bond program

which the Treasury now has under consideration. I would appreciate

it if you and your staff would carefully review this proposed program
and let me have your criticisms and suggestions by wire Tuesday
evening so that we can have them here for study early Wednesday

morning. If it would be helpful to you, you are free to call in any
outside people you may deem advisable for consultation.

Very truly yours,

(s) D. W. Bell
Under Secretary of the Treasury
Mr. William McC. Martin,
President,
Federal Reserve Bank,

St. Louis, Mo.

Same letter sent to all

Presidents of the Federal

DNB:ce

Reserve Banks

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Proposed Savings Bond Program

Three series of United States savings bonds are under
consideration for use in connection with the forthooming
savings bond program. Each of these 18 designed to tap a
different sector of investment demand, and it is proposed
that all three be offered simultaneously. The first is a
modification of the present form of savings bond, and is

intended primarily for small investors. The other two
are designed primarily for large individual investors and
for limited purchase by institutions other than commercial
banks.

The three proposed types are described in more detail

in the remainder of this memorandum.

I. Savings Bond Offered

Primarily for Small Investors

It is proposed that the present type of savings bond
be retained, with one relatively minor modification. The
modification relates to the yield allowed on the bonds if
redeemed prior to maturity. The yield if held to final
maturity would continue to be 2.90 percent. It is proposed, however, that the yields allowed in the event of

intermediate redemption should be reduced substantially.
The proposed reductions are shown in Table I, which compares the intermediate yields allowed under the present
plan with those proposed for the new series. The primary

purpose of this modification is to build up the yield
during the remainder of the ten-year period if held to
maturity as rapidly as possible. It is this yield (which

is shown in the last column of the table) which determines
the decision of a holder of the bonds whether to redeem

them or hold them to final maturity. It is felt that this

yield should be built up as rapidly as possible, thus providing a substantial inducement to holders of the bonds to
retain them to final maturity.
It is proposed that the limit on the maximum amount
of the bonds of this type which may be purchased by any
one individual in any one year be fixed at $5,000 maturity value, as compared with $10,000 for the presen^ type
of
savings
bond. Sales would continue to be restricted to
natural
persons.

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-2II. Savings Bonde Designed

Primarily for Larger Investors
It is proposed that two types of savings bonds be offered primarily for larger investors. These bonds would
be eligible for purchase by any class of investor except
commercial banks, and could be purchased up to a total
amount of $50,000 original issue price by any investor in
any one year. This limit could be taken in either type of
bond or divided between the two in any way desired by the
investor, and would be in addition to the $5,000 maturity
value permitted to be purchased of the bond described in
the first section of this memorandum.
One of the proposed new series would be an appreci-

ation-type security similar to the existing savings bonds,
while the other would provide a current income. Both securities would yield a return of approximately 2-1/4 percent if held to final maturity. Their yield for the
period held if redeemed prior to maturity would also be
approximately the same. The two securities are compared
in this respect, and their intermediate redemption values
are shown in Table II. Both types would be redeemable
only on semiannual dates and on thirty days' written notice,
such notice to be irrevocable when once given.

The appreciation-type security would be the same as

the existing eeries of savings bonds, except that it would
have an issue price of 80, rather than 75, thereby reducing the yield to maturity from 2.90 percent to 2.24 percent. The intermediate redemption values would also be
reduced more sharply than is proposed in the case of the

bond described in the first section of the memorandum.
These values would still be generous, however, as compared
with open market yields for corresponding periods.
The income-type of security presente a somewhat more

difficult technical problem. It would bear a current return at a level rate of 2-1/4 percent per annum, payable

semiannually throughout the period. In order to compen- has
been considered necessary to reduce the intermediate

sate for the high current return in early years, it re-

demption values below the original sales price by an
amount sufficient to cut intermediate yields to the same

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-3level as those on the appreciation-type security. The re-

duced intermediate redemption values thus arrived at would
reach a minimum of $94.80 per $100 of original issue price
after the bond has been held 4-1/2 years.

This scale of intermediate redemption values is that
which would be available to the original purchaser should

he desire to redeem the security prior to maturity. It is
proposed, however, that in the event of the death of the
original purchaser during the ten-year period, his suocessor in interest should have the right for a reasonable

period after the death of the original purchaser to obtain
the full purchase price of the bond, rather than the reduced intermediate redemption value named in the instrument.
This provision is proposed primarily in order to make the
securities attractive to life tenant and remainderman
trusts.

Yields are nominal annual rates compounded semiannually.
88

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
2.90
2.50
2.40
2.29
2.15

2.90
2.84
2.76
2.67
2.57

100.00
95.00
93.00
91.00
89.00

100.00
98.00
96.00
94.00
92.00

3.64

2.07
1.96
1.93
1.90
1.85

2.45
2.30
2.30
2.29
2.29

87.50
86.00
85.00
84.00
83.00

90.00
88.00
87.00
86.00
85.00

1.79
1.72
1.62
1.49
1.31

2.28
2.26
2.24

3.66
3.58

3.52
3.42
3.34
3.27
3.21

82.00
81.00
80.00
79.00
78.00

84.00
83.00
82.00
81.00
80.00

3.52
3.38
3.25
3.15
3.05

3.17
3.13
3.10
3.07
3.05

1.06

77.00
76.50
76.00
75.50
75.00

79.00
78.00
77.00
76.00
75.00

2.90%

2.90%

$75.00

$75.00

-

10.53
7.39
6.39
5.91
5.41

5.09
4.70
4.41
4.18
4.01
3.87
3.75

yields
intermediate
reduced

Plan for

-

4.08
4.12
4.17
4.21

4.26
4.31
4.02
3.81

plan

Present

of 10-year period
Field during remainder

.99
.88
.67
.00

2.21
2.16

2.09
1.97
1.76
1.33
.00
.00%

.00%

yields
intermediate
reduced

plan
Present

Plan for
Yield during period held

yields
intermediate
reduced

Plan for

plan
Present

Redemption value

Comparison of Present Plan with Plan for Reduced Intermediate Fields
United States Savings Bonds

Their I

20
19

18
17

16
15
14
13

12
11

10
9

8

7

6

5

4

3

2

1

0

held

periods
annual
semi-

Number of

Yields are nominal annual rates compounded semiannually.

Treasury Department, Division of Research and Statistics.
-

4.50

4.31
4.20
4.04

3.95
3.82
3.73
3.60
3.48
3.39
3.29
3.19
3.09

2.97
2.86
2.74
2.62
2.50

2.38
2.25%

plan
Income

-

4.50
4.12
4.02
3.88

3.72
3.62
3.55
3.45
3.33

3.23
3.15
3.09
3.00
2.89

2.80
2.68
2.58
2.47
2.36
2.24%

plan

Appreciation

of 10-year period
Yield during remainder

2.25
2.15
2.05
1.95
1.85

2.24
2.13
2.04
1.93
1.84

1.75
1.65
1.55
1.45
1.35

1.75
1.66
1.54
1.44
1.36

95.00
94.90

1.24
1.12
1.00
.87
.76

1.26
1.14

94.80
94.80

.62
.51
.39
.25
.05
.00%

plan
Income

100.00

98.90
98.00
97.20
96.60

100.00

20

96.00

18

97.80

96.00

94.20

17

92.60

16

91.20
89.80
88.40
87.20
86.20

95.60

95.20

.98
.85
.74

95.10
95.50

85.20
84.20
83.20
82.40
81.80

.60
.50

95.90
96.50

81.20
80.80

.33
.25
.00
.00%

plan

Appreciation

Yield during period held

94.90

97.20

98.90

80.40
80.20
80.00

$100.00

$ 80.00

98.00

plan
Income

plan

Appreciation

Redemption value

2-1/4 Percent if Held to Final Maturity

19

SeriesofofProposed
United States
Savings
Comparison
Appreciato
andBonds
IncomeYielding
Plane for New

15
14
13
12
11

10
9
8

7

6

5

4
3

2

1

O

periods held
semi-annual
Number of

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February 28, 1941
11:16 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr.
Harriman
expected back about 11:30
or quarter
of is
12:00.

H.M.Jr:

Well, is there anybody there in his office?

Operator:

I'll see. (Pause). I have his secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Robt. P.

Meiklejohn:
H.M.Jr:

This is Mr. Meiklejohn, Mr. Harriman's
assistant. Can I help you?

Yes. This is Mr. Morgenthau. Will you tell

Mr. Harriman that I've been thinking over very
carefully his request to let him have some of
my statisticians to go with him to London and

in view of the shape this whole thing is taking
in the last few days, I think that the Treasury
should contract its activities with regard to
that sort of thing rather than expand, and I
wish Mr. Harriman would see if he can't get
somebody from the Statistical Section of O.P.M.
rather than the Treasury.

M:

H.M.Jr:

All right. I'11 tell him that.
Because I want to contract our activities
rather than expand.

M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

I'll tell him that.
Thank you.

You're welcome.

3/1/41

HM JR took this to the White House
with him today at 11:30.

91 :

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February 28, 1941.
Dear Mr. President:
The Coast Guard vessels which seam most suitable

for convoy work are the ten cutters of the 250-foot class

built between 1928 and 1932. The names of the vessels
and the years in which they were completed are:
- 1928
NTCHARTRAIN - 1928
TAHOE
- 1928
CHAMPLAIN
- 1929
MENDOTA
- 1929
CHELAN

ITASCA - 1930
SARANAC - 1930

SEBAGO - 1930
SHOSHONE - 1930

CAYUGA - 1932

The over-all length of each is 250 feet, molded

beam 42 feet, maximum draft 16 feet, displacement 1,979

tons, speed 16 knots. The gross tonnage of the first
five is 1,632 and of the later five, because of minor

changes in power plants and internal arrangement, is

1,573. All are oll-burning turbo-electric. The first

five develop 3,000 horsepower and the later five 3,200.
With the exception of one, the SHOSHONE, all of

the vessels are now on the east coast and all are in such
condition as to hull and machinery that they could be
turned over immediately. Consideration has to be given,

however, to the armanent and other equipment they would
need for convoy service. Although a program of arming

and equipping all ten for service with our Navy has been

in progress, it seems far from certain that this equip-

ment will meet British needs and it seems probable also,

in view of the history of the destroyers turned over to
the British, that some structural changes will be desired.

This work could probably best be done in American yards.
We have consulted the Navy Department on this
point and the Embassy has asked advice from London. The

time when the ten cutters can be turned over for actual

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convey work will of course depend upon the extent of the
changes and additions desired and the speed with which

we can get the work done.

The transfer of these ten vessels means the loss

of about half the fleet of cruising cutters and the progran of work laid out for the year will of course have to
be drastically revised. Among outters of the large sea-

going class there will remain seven of the now 327-foot
type and four 240-foot ships that are now twenty years
old. Of the seven 327-footers one, the CAMPBELL, is now
on Navy service in Portugal.
The following steps appear to be necessary to
adjust this year's program to the equipment available:

(a) International Ice Patrol - The recommendation
is renewed that the International Ice Patrol be abandoned
for this year. Such patrol of the Grand Banks area as may
be necessary from time to time would be carried out to the

extent that vessels are available. If the regular International Ice Patrol is continued it will have to be done
with
vessels of the 125-foot class, which are ill suited
for this work.

(b) Greenland Patrol - This patrol can be made by
the Aretic cutter NORTHLAND, the 165-foot ice breaking
cutter COMANCHE, and a vessel of the 240-foot class. Efforts
are being made to obtain the BEAR OF OAKLAND from Admiral

Byrd for Greenland duty, upon the return of that vessel from
the Antaretic, about May 1. This is not quite as extensive
patrol of Greenland as had been planned for the coming sum-

mer, but it may be sufficient.

(c) Atlantic Weather Stations - To maintain a two-

station patrel in the Month Atlantic will require five
vessels of the 327-foot class. This will be a full-time

duty for these five vessels, and they could not be diverted
for other use. Strong representations have been made by

the British Government, the State Department, the Weather

Bureau, and the Civil Aeronautics Administration to maintain

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a third station on this Atlantic Weather Patrol, which

would require at least two aore vessels. These are not
available. It is recommended that immediate steps be
taken to obtain and equip seven merchant vessels for this
duty. There appears to be no doubt but that all of the
327-foot cutters will shortly be needed for more important

duty. It ought to be possible to obtain for this work

seven of the Danish ships now tied up in our ports. If

the bare boats could be chartered they could be manned by

Coast Guard crows.

(d) Cadet Practice Cruise - No vessels whatever
of suitable type, are now available for the Cadet Practice
Cruise, during the coming summer. This cruise is & very

important part of a cadet's training. It is urgently

recommended that immediate action be taken to obtain the
Danish raining ship DANMARK, now immobilized at Jackson-

ville, Florida. Preliminary negotiations have been undertaken through the State Department.

(e) Bering Sea Patrol - Two of the 250-foot cutters

were scheduled for Bering Sea Patrol during the coming
summer. The Coast Guard has no replacements for these

vessels and, consequently, the activities of the Coast
Guard in the Bering Sea will need to be somewhat curtai led
this coming summer. The patrol will have to be made entirely
by small craft, with the exception of the HAIDA (240-foot
class).

(f) Cruise to American Colonies Southwest of Honolulu The TANEY (327-foot class) makes periodic cruises to the
colonies established on Baker, Howland, and Jarvis Islands,

and is the only vessel available for this duty. This duty

can be continued only as long as the TANEY remains available

for Coast Guard activities.

(g) General Duties - Many other duties of the Coast
Guard - such as: neutrality patrol, law enforcement, assistance to vessels in distress, towing of vessels for the

Maritime Commission, and other emergency tasks, will have

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to be ourtailed.

For some time we have felt the need of additional
and better equipment to take care adequately of ice conditions on our Eastern coast, in the rivers, the Great
Lakes and on the Alaskan coast. We lack also vessels

entirely suitable for coping with ice conditions in the

harbors of Newfoundland and Greenland and Iceland; nor

do Canada or Great Britain have suitable vessels for this

purpose, which may continue for some time to come to be
of great importance.

The replacement of the ten cutters to be transferred will give us an opportunity to remedy this lack.
As a part of our National defense needs it would seem
prudent to equip the Coast Guard with ships specially
constructed to overcome difficult ice conditions wherever
they are called upon to perform service.
I am therefore suggesting a program for the construction of ten dual purpose ships at an estimated cost
of $22,500,000 ($2,250,000 each), and respectfully ask
your permission to submit a deficiency estimate in that
amount. These would be combination lee-breakers and

cruising cutters, 250 feet in over-all length and approximately 42 feet beam, similar to the ten outters to be
transferred except that the bow characteristics would be
materially different and the vessels would be more staunchly
constructed, in order to break ice and to penetrate icefields. Perhaps a half-knot of speed (of the 16 knots of
the present cutters) would be sacrificed for more rugged
construction and better ice-breaking qualities. In addition
to their value for working through ice the vessels would
also have all necessary useful qualities for towing, rendering assistance at sea and other varied Coast Guard work.

To summarize, the program I desire to suggest for
your approval is as follows:

(1) Submit deficiency estimates in the amount of
$22,500,000 for ten dual-purpose cutters.

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.5.
(2) Undertake negotiations to obtain and equip
seven merchant shipe for weather patrol
purposes, to be manned by Coast Guard crows.

(3) Negotiate for the purchase of the Danish
training vessel DANMARK for Coast Guard
cadet training.

Faithfully,

Secretary of the Treasury.

The President,
The White House.

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46

UNITED STATES COAST GUARD

RESTRICTED
HEADQUARTERS

SECRET

WASHINGTON

27 February, 1941

MEMORANDUM FOR SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

Subject:

250-foot Class Coast Guard Cutters; rearmament
conversion; estimated completion dates

Inclosure: 1. Schedule of 250-foot Class Rearmament Conversion; equipment required for Completion
1.
The subject class of Coast Guard cutters now in
the process of being converted to Gunboats (XPG) for national
defense under general specifications prepared by the Navy
Department
the following vessels permanently stationed
at theincludes
ports noted:
CAYUGA

CHAMPLAIN
CHELAN

ITASCA
MENDOTA

PONTCHARTRAIN
SARANAC
SEBAGO

SHOSHONE
TAHOE

Boston, Massachusetts

Stapleton, Staten Island, New York
San Diego, California

Boston, Massachusetts

Norfolk, Virginia

Stapleton, Staten Island, New York

Galveston, Texas

Norfolk, Virginia

Alameda, California

New Bedford, Massachusetts

2.

In general, the rearmament of vessels of this
class provides for the following ordnance equipment and related
alterations and modifications:

Install two 5"/51 Cal. guns

Install three 3"/50 Cal. antiaircraft guns
Install four .50 Cal. antiaircraft machine guns

Install one Y-gun with six depth charges
Install two 8-charged depth charge tracks
Install echo ranging equipment (underwater listening device)
Provide signalling searchlights
Provide two 24" high intensity searchlights
Install altimeter range finder and 2 meter range finders
Install fire control telephone systems

Provide magnetic mine protection
Modify magazines for war-time ammunition allowance
Revise accommodations and facilities to provide for 150
enlisted men and 12 officers

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27 February, 1941

Provide chemical
warfare defense equipment
Furnish
steel helmets

Install
various
light dimming and control switches
Provide
electricalarms,
lanterns

3. The first phase of the conversion of vessels of

this class has been completed on all vessels except the

SHOSHONE and a schedule has been prepared for their return

to various shipyards and Navy yards beginning 1 March, 1941,
at which time all equipment which has been accumulated since

completing the first part of the work will be installed and

every effort made to finish the conversions to the extent
available material and equipment will permit. Items such
as, range finders, searchlights, .50 Cal. machine guns, a
limited number of 3"/50 Cal. A.A. guns and hydraulic depth
charge controls have been ordered since early in the conversion program, but excessive delay has occurred in their
deliveries, and in the case of several items, deliveries are
not anticipated during the forthcoming visits of the vessels
to the shipyards. This delay is due to the length of time
required for the manufacture of the fire control and ordnance
equipment and also to the deferred priority assigned the
Coast Guard in the receipt of defense material and equipment.

In the case of four of the cutters, the MENDOTA, PONTCHARTRAIN,
SARANAC and TAHOE, scheduled to proceed to the Navy Yard, New

York, for conversion completions, the lack of equipment was
brought to the attention of the Navy Department, and I am
advised that department has arranged to furnish the missing
items of equipment which will permit approximately 100 per
cent completion of the conversion work.

Satisfactory completion of the remaining six vessels of the class is dependent on the receipt of the items of
4.

equipment mentioned above, deliveries of which have been sub-

ject to extraordinary delay. The only possibility which

would allow these six vessels to be completed during the

proposed overhaul period would be the Navy Department sup-

plying the missing equipments by granting earlier priority

to equipment now under manufacture or diverting that now delivered
and earmarked for Navel units under construction or
conversion.

The present schedule for the return of vessels of
the 250-foot Class for conversion completions is:
5.

CAYUGA

CHAMPLAIN

17 March - 15 April - Navy Yard, Boston
1 - 21 March - Coast Guard Depot

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Memorandum
for Secretary of Treasury
27 February, 1941
CHELAN

ITASCA
MENDOTA

PONTCHARTRAIN
SARANAC
SEBAGO

SHOSHONE
TAHOE

15 - 30 March - Coast Guard Depot
21 January to 11 March - Coast Guard Depot
15 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York
1 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York
3 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York
1 - 21 May - Coast Guard Depot
25 March - 25 May - Coast Guard Depot
15 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York

6. To expedite the completion of the conversion on
the ten vessels of the 250-foot Class, the following alternate

schedule is recommended providing the work on the vessels can

be given priority at the Boston and New York Navy yards. Four
of the vessels, the MENDOTA, PONTCHARTRAIN, SARANAC and TAHOE,

as noted above, are scheduled to proceed to the Navy Yard, New
York, during March, and preliminary work in connection with

their completion has been initiated and no change in this

schedule is recommended. As noted above, the missing equipment for these four vessels will be furnished by the Navy Department and their requirements are not included in the tabulation inclosed which lists the material and equipment required
to permit completion of the remaining six vessels of the class.
The modified schedule which will provide for completion of the

conversions
as
follows:

on all vessels of the class by 15 April, 1941, is

CAYUGA

CHELAN

CHAMPLAIN
ITASCA
SEBAGO

SHOSHONE
MENDOTA

PONTCHARTRAIN
SARANAC
TAHOE

17 March - 15 April - Navy Yard, Boston
15 March - 15 April - Navy Yard, Boston

1 - 21 March - Coast Guard Depot
21 January - 11 March - Coast Guard Depot
24 March - 15 April - Coast Guard Depot
15 March - 15 April - Coast Guard Depot
15 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York
1 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York
3 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York
15 - 31 March - Navy Yard, New York

7.

It is urgently recommended that it be arranged by
the Navy Department to furnish either by granting higher priorities
or diverting from vessels now under construction or conversion 7
3*/50 Cal. antiaircraft guns, 24 .50 Cal. machine guns, 12 24"
high intensity searchlights, six 21 meter range finders, 12 hydrau-

lic depth charge release controls, 300 sound powered telephone
jack boxes and 150 sound powered telephone plugs for installation

on the six vessels of the 250-foot Class for which previous ar-

rangements to obtain this equipment have not been completed.
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3

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R. R. WAESCHE
Commandant

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9/28

MEMORANDUM TO THE PRESIDENT

There has been an amendment proposed

to H.R. 1776 by Senators Taft and Byrd which

Senator Byrnes has indicated he is willing to

accept in substance. Its implications are 80
serious we think it ought to be called to your
attention.
This amendment provides that no defense

articles procured out of appropriations made to
the War and Navy Departments after the effective

date of H.R. 1776 can be transferred under the

bill without the consent of Congress.
This amendment would seriously cripple

the contemplated operations under the bill. It
would make it impossible effectively to carry out
a joint procurement program. It would mean practically
that we would have to have a separate Army, Navy and

foreign aid program. It would also take away the

flexibility that is necessary in disposing of defense
articles.

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We have felt justified in bringing this
to your attention because no amendment to which

administration Senators have been receptive cuts

so close to the heart of the bill.
Do you have any suggestions for us?

Henry L Stimuon
Secretary of War

Hung Mayouthan r.
Secretary of the Treasury

Fountal
Acting Secretary of the Navy
February 28, 1941

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February 28, 1941

My dear Mr. Smith:

For your information, I am sending you copy of a memorandum signed by

Secretaries Stimson, Forrestal and myself,
which was transmitted to the President today.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed)

Honorable Harold D. Smith,

Director of the Budget.

Rv Messages 24,

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February 28, 1941

My dear Harry:

For your information, I am sending you copy of a memorandum signed by

Secretaries Stimson, Forrestal and myself,
which was transmitted to the President today.

Yours sincerely,

Honorable Harry Hopkins,
The White House.

By Messager 241

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February 28, 1941

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your files, I am sending you
a copy of the memorandum which we

sent to the President today.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, JF.

Honorable Henry L. Stimson,
Secretary of War,
Washington, D.C.

By Manager 2 41

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February 28, 1941

My dear Mr. Forrestal:

For your files, I am sending you
a copy of the memorandum which we

sent to the President today.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed)

Honorable James Forrestal,

Under Secretary of the Navy,

Navy Department,
Washington, D.C.

H
By Memograph 2

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77TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION

H. R. 1776

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
FEBRUARY 26 (legislative day, FEBRUARY 13), 1941

Ordered to lie on the table and to be printed

AMENDMENT
Intended to be proposed by Mr. BYRD to the bill (H. R. 1776)
further to promote the defense of the United States, and
for other purposes, viz:

On page 3, line 10, after the period, insert the follow-

1

2 ing new sentence: "Defense articles procured from funds
3 hereafter appropriated shall not be disposed of in any way

4 under authority of this paragraph except to the extent
5 hereafter specifically authorized by the Congress in the Acts
6 appropriating such funds or otherwise."

2-26-41-A

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February 28. 1941
Under Secretary Boll
Mr. Gedhrea

AS 11:30 this morning Mr. Maxwell Hamilton, Chief of the Far Eastern Division
of the Department of State, telephoned me to ask for an appointment for his assistant,
Mr. Jones, to present a accordance to the Treasury Department setting forth State
Department views on the Chinese Stabilization arrangement. I explained to Mr. Hamilton
that pressure of financing had prevented the Treasury from calling any joint mosting
02 this question the past two or three days, but that we hoped to get on 10 again seen.
Mr. Hamilton stressed the urgency of the matter insofer as the Department of State was
concerned.

At 2:40 this afternoon I received Mr. Jenes, who handed to no the attached
informal memorandum. No said that this had been cleared with the appropriate officials
is the Department of State, including Secretary Hall.
I reminded Mr. Jones of our conversation some days age with Dr. Seeng
and

let his know that the British Treasury people had provided us with a copy of a

masage sent from London to Changing. but that we had received since that mooting
so other documents which sight have served as a basis for the remarks which Dr. Seeng

mis from a penciled. Mr. Jenes confirmed that he likewise had received

nothing other than the Lendon-Chunghing telegras which had been handed to us. I as
uncortain. therefore, whether the message fres Lendes which Phillips had used as a
basis for his memorandum to the Treasury had also served as the basis of Dr. Soong's

OF whether some later message is involved. We should clarify this with
the British when they next seet with us.

K.M.R.

10:dM:2.28.41

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COPY

February 12, 1941
INFORMAL MEMORANDUM IN REGARD TO
CURRENCY SITUATION
IN CHINA

Officers of the Department understand that Sir
Frederick Phillips has presented to the Treasury Department on behalf of the British Government a plan for

dealing with the Chinese currency situation which, if
accepted, would serve as a substitute for the draft
agreement which has been tentatively worked out between

the Treasury and Mr. T. V. Soong in Washington. The
draft as agreed upon between the Treasury Department

and Mr. Soong provides certain procedures whereby this
Government would aid the Chinese Government in stabiliz-

ing the exchange value of the Chinese yuan with respect

to the United States dollar and other foreign currencies,
procedures which allow a continuation of the present

policy of maintaining a free market for Chinese currency. Conversations which have thus far been had with
Mr. Soong have assumed that a free market for Chinese
currency would be continued.

According to our understanding of the matter, the
British plan to conclude at an early date a payments agreement between the British Empire and Japan and between the

British Empire and China. These two steps would result in

the disappearance of the free market for sterling in China.
We

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-We understand that the British plan calls further for the
establishment of external exchange control by the Chinese

Government, the freezing of Chinese balances in the British
Empire and in the United States, and the operation of exchange controls in the British Empire and in the United
States to the advantage of the Chinese National Government,
1.e., the Government of the United States and the govern-

ments of the various areas of the British Empire would
provide that exchange accruing from current Chinese exports
from occupied areas must be turned over to the Chinese
National Government if the commodities concerned are to

be accepted in the British Empire or in the United States.
The British Empire and the United States would therefore
be helping China enforce exchange control in the occupied

areas. The free market for Chinese currency would, of
course, largely disappear and presumably the Chinese

National Government would fix an exchange rate for future
transactions.

There is reason to believe that if the preceding
measures were taken, the following developments would have

to be taken into account:
(1) The Japanese would probably decline to allow
exchange accruing from exports from Shanghai and
Tientain

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-Tientsin and other occupied ports to be made available

to the Chinese National Government. There is little
doubt that they would promptly declare the currency of
the Chinese National Government invalid in the occupied

areas and substitute the currency of their own puppet

banks therefor, instituting at the same time full export and import control providing that no exports could
take place until the exchange involved should accrue to
the puppet banks. The result of conflicting Japanese
and British policies would be a stalemate in which
trade between the occupied areas and countries other

than Japan would be cut off, except for the export and
import trade with occupied Chine which would probably be
carried on through Japan, and the occupied areas would
be thrown largely upon Japan for both imports and exports.
Any hope, therefore, that the Chinese Government would

under the British plan derive foreign exchange from the
trade of the occupied areas would seem to be wholly illusory. Moreover, the Japanese could argue with con-

siderable reason, if the foregoing should transpire,
that China, Great Britain, and the United States had
destroyed the free market for China's currency and that

they had no alternative but to put their own currency
and trade measures into
operation.

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-4operation. The adverse effect of these developments

not only on Shanghai but on the large guerrilla-controlled
hinterland and upon the resistance to Japanese policies
which is maintained in those areas would probably be

great. The circulation of the Chinese currency through
out China, including the occupied areas, tends to cause
the Chinese to continue to regard Chungking as their

legitimate government, and is therefore an important
unifying factor.
(2) Perhaps the most important immediate effect to

the United States of putting the British plan into offect would be that the large quantities of Chinese National currency at present circulating and hoarded at
Shenghai and in the central and north China hinterland

amounting to between three or four billion yuan or more
would be pushed back into the interior where the Chinese National Government is endeavoring at the present

time to prevent a runaway inflation. Either the owners
of Chinese National currency would take that currency

from Shanghai into the interior or the Japanese would

collect it, in exchange for puppet currencies, and

smuggle it into the interior. The result of a great
addition of the circulating medium in free China, where
investment opportunities for private capital are meager,
would be probably to cause inflationary forces operating
there

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-5there to get out of hand and thereby undermine the allthority of the Chinese National Government.
Both this Government and the British Government are

concerned that the strength and authority of the Chinese
National Government be maintained. We feel that the RC-

ceptance of the British plan would not be in accord with

that general policy. If the preceding developments took
place they would appear to be working in the opposite

direction. This Government is carrying out as a measure

of self-defense a broad policy of aid to countries resisting aggression and, as part of that policy, recently announced the extension of a loan of $100,000,000 to the
Chinese Government. Shortly after that announcement, the
British Government announced that it was similarly making
a large sum available to the Chinese Government, partly

for currency stabilization purposes and partly for increased purchases within the British Empire. The effect
of the proposed British plan would seem to be not only not

to make a material contribution to the support of the Chinese currency, but to make difficult American efforts to
support that currency. Should the British Government proceed to negotiate a payments agreement with China, the

inability of China to sell her surplus of sterling in the
open market and to obtain therefor gold dollars would exert
additional pressure on the Chinese currency.
It

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-6It would seem so be preferable as a matter of

policy to keep the situation in China on as even a keel
as possible during the coming months and to avoid, if

possible, drastic measure fecting China's economy.
If China can be tided over during the next few months a

new and more hopeful situation may present itself. It
would seem to be useful to have a plan such as the
British have in mind thoroughly discussed and worked

out as between the British and ourselves as a necessary
emergency measure to be put into operation if the Japanese seize Shanghai and establish full trade and ex-

change controls or if the further maintenance of a free
market for the Chinese currency ahr old otherwise seem

to be completely untenable. However, it is suggested

that it is highly desirable to continue for a while
longer the policy which this Government and the British
Government have followed since the beginning of hostili-

ties in the Far East, namely, that of holding our ground
as long as possible and of retreating only when obliged

to do so. Such a course of action mey require a greater

expenditure of funds but in our opinion the returns for
that expenditure would be substantial.

copy:kma

2/28/41

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28. 1941
Secretary Morgenthau
TO

FROM

Mr. Cochran

At 11:45 on February 21 Mr. Dave Schenker of Securities and Exchange telephoned
no. He said that Mr. Quinn, representing an investment trust group in New York
which had been in touch with S. E. C., had heard rumors that the British were nego-

tisting directly with various firas "on the Street" in regard to sale of direct

investments in this country. He wanted to know how S. E. C. should go about effect-

ing limison between Quinn and Sir Edward Peacock.

I told Mr. Schenker that I could only renew the advice which I had given his
office after a personal conversation with Sir Edward Peacock, namely, that all parties
applying to our Government offices here in Washington for information about or con-

tact with Sir Edward Peaceck's office and his functions should be referred directly to

his at 15 Broad Street, New York, in care of the British Purchasing Commission.
Scheaker said that he reacled this message from me, but that Quinn seemed hesitant

is taking such a forward step. I assured Mr. Schenker that Sir Edward's reports of
allers and their efforts to interest him in their prepositions indicated no excessive
Ledesty on the part of New York operaters, and again told him the Treasury was
definitely following the policy suggested by Peacock, without making any exceptions
is behalf of special pleaders.
When Mr. White and I were with the Secretary on February 24 I mentioned the
above conversation. Mr. White stated that Mr. Schenker had spoken with him on the
subject and was sending over a memorandum to the Secretary indicating the people who

had been in touch with him concerning British direct investments, and asking advice
is the premises. The Secretary took the position that the policy of referring everyone directly to Sir Edward Peacock should be followed by the S. E. C. as well as by
the Treasury, and that there should not be any confusing of this policy through
S. I. C. approaching more than one officer in the Treasury. The Secretary said he wanted
this handled through me. At the Staff meeting of February 25 the Secretary reminded
the group that he desired that Mr. Young be his contact with the British Purchasing
Commission and that I be the contact with the British Embassy. When he asked whether
any of the other officers had direct contact with the Embassy, Messrs. Gaston and
Pehle stated that they sometimes saw Stepford. I remarked that this had been agreed
upon, since Stopford dealt with certain shipping matters which Mr. Gaston controlled,
and occasionally went on to see Mr. Pehle on Foreign Funds matters after he had filed
his memoranda on this subject with no.

KMP

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February 28, 1941

11:45 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Schenker.

David

Schenker:

Hello, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

S:

I'm sorry to bother you but Mr. Quinn has

come to Washington and my phone literally has
been ringing innumerable times every day with

H.M.Jr:

respect to that British al tuation.
I'm going to be available at 3:00.

S:

Well, may we come over for 5 minutes?

H.M.Jr:

Who is we?

S:

Just Frank Quinn and myself.

H.M.Jr:

Sure.

S:

Fine. Thank you.

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February 28, 1941
11:50

meeting a.m. at 4pm today
RE AID TO BRITAIN
Present:

Mr. Gaston
Admiral Waesche

Mrs. Klotz

Gaston:

Mrs. Herbert is typing the last few lines of
a letter to the President for your signature.

H.M.Jr:

What do I do, read this?

Gaston:

There is a memorandum that was really prepared
before the discussion with the Navy Department

on the status of these cutters.

H.M.Jr:

Should I read this? Have you got a copy of
this?

Gaston:

No, I haven't a copy of that.

Waesche:

I don't think it is necessary for you to read

that, Mr. Secretary. I can just tell you in

a very few words what it contains.
H.M.Jr:

Please.

Waesche:

That simply gives you the present state of
conversion of these ships for Navy use, and it
runs all the way from the Shoshone, which hasn't
been touched, to one of the other vessels,
which is almost completed. Under the present
plans, the Navy of course have not given pri-

ority to all of those ships. They have been

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-2given priority before which they expect to
use on the ones in the Caribbean Sea. In the
present setup those ships would not be ready

until April or May with those particular type
of guns. When I took it up with the Navy

yesterday, there was no question in their
mind that the British would not want that armament, and they simply said, "We are not going
to send these guns over on these ships for the
British to take off and use them for something
else.' They were very positive those were not
the guns which the British would use. Then
we cabled London yesterday to find out what
armament the British would want on these ships,

so that practically scraps that whole conversion program. As far as the material already

in the ships are concerned, the machinery and

the hull are in the pink of condition, all ten
of them, and it is only a question now of findout what the British want put on there, and as
soon as we get that word, the Navy have told

me they would give me an estimated date-H.M.Jr:

Let me interruptyou. I hope you didn't consider just the armament. Let me tell you what
happened in the case of the destroyers. My
informant is the President of the United
States. One of the many reason why there was

such delay in putting these destroyers in the
service, I understand they have four boilers
each, and the English took one boiler out in
order to make room for more full capacity.
They said they could get along with less speed,
but they wanted them to stay out longer. And
then on the bridge of our destroyers, it is
covered with steel, and they find that they

have lost more men from broken necks because
when they dropped these bombs the concussion

throws the men up, and they hit their heads
on the top of these steel roofs, and they
break their necks. Furthermore, they want to

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be able to see the planes when they come.

Therefore, they removed the top of all these

bridges. Now, the point of the story is,

the bridge is open, there is no protection,
so - if we are going to do this thing so they
will be able to use them this spring, the
English ought to be able to see them or have
a plan of them and say, "To put them into
service, this is what we need." So when they
leave and are delivered up to Halifax, these

things are in the condition they want, not
just as to guns, but everything. So if you

could - if you didn't make it all inclusive,
I would ask the British - here is the type of

ship we are thinking of letting them have under
the Lend-Lease. "What would you want done to

this ship so that when it is delivered to Halifax, the next day it goes into service with the

first convoy that goes out," you see.
Waesche:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Or if this ship is of no use, all right. Now,

I should think one of the things which would
help them would be, if you haven't got a man
in Halifax, send one up there and let him take
a look at these ones the Canadians are building,
how are they equipped.

These new Corvettes which they are building -

but it would be better, I think, to let the

British say, "Here, now this is fine and wonderful, but we want the following things done to
these ships before we can use them under our

Waesche:

ideas." There is no use arguing with them.
Unless they were in condition so that they can
be used this spring, I would lose most of my
interest. Now, is that plain what I am saying?
Yes, sir.

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-4Gaston:

Of course the ships themselves can all be
delivered right now.

H.M.Jr:

I know, Herbert, but if you send them over to
England and they go through the thing, it is
another three months, and the whole idea is

lost, but if they have - as I understand it,

these convoys go over of from 40 to 60 ships,
and they are having one, two, or three destroy-

ers, that is all, for the whole thing. I mean,

and that is why they are losing so many. They
only have, I understand, sometimes as few as
two. Have you heard that?
Waesche:

Yes, sir, I have. I was talking to the Navy
yesterday.

H.M.Jr:

Am I right?

Waesche:

Yes, sir, and also they were saying - they

talked about those convoys over there yesterday.
They were saying that the guns that we have on
these ships would not stop those German planes,
that they usually report those German bombers
come down there and shoot over those convoys

about two hundred feet up in the air and one
bomb to each merchant ship.

H.M.Jr:

But the point I am getting at is, from their

daily experience there are undoubtedly things
that they want. We can do those things very,

very rapidly here, so that they get them in
the spring, and I don't want them to leave
here and have them lie over in some port in
England for three months.

Waesche:

The only question in my mind is, of course,

whether the Navy is to make these arrangements

with the British by putting the Navy in there,

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which, of course, I think it is a Navy job,
but I am not in a position to go over and tell
the Navy I want them to do this, that, and the
other thing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I am, and so is the President. Don't

hesitate about that. I will drive it home.
Waesche:

To my mind, just as you say, there should be
somebody from the British authorities who knows
what they want come down here with the Navy and

Coast Guard and say, "Here is the ship. Now
what do you want done to it?"
Gaston:

Yes.
The final thing is to find out what the
British want done.

H.M.Jr:

They have got the people here.

Make a note, Herbert, please, gross tonnage of

the earlier five, I would like to have you give

the date of when those are available. The
meeting is tomorrow morning. I just got word.
Gaston:

Twenty-eight and twenty-nine the first five,
and thirty-one and thirty-two the second five.

H.M.Jr:

Now, if you don't mind, I would change this

letter. It isn't what I want. I would simply
put in here, "We have asked the Navy to ascer-

tain from the British what will be necessary
to convert these ships so that they would be
ready to be put to the use that they want and

depending upon what we hear from the British
and depending upon the speed with which the

Navy will make It available, we are unable to
tell you," you see.
Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

In other words, there are two factors, one,

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how quickly our own Navy can act on them.
Gaston:

H.M.Jr:

That is just listing what is being done now,
and then I say in the last paragraph--

I think it is confusing, if you don't mind,

all that stuff may come off.

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

I would simply, after the first paragraph, introduce a new paragraph in place of this one.

Gaston:

The second paragraph there is descriptive of the

boats, I think.

H.M.Jr:

No.

Gaston:

Isn't it?

H.M.Jr:

No. I would cut this out because what we are
doing now may be of no use to the British.

Gaston:

Yes, we realize that.

H.M.Jr:

So I would just say with the exception of one then I would say we are asking the English and

when we hear from that, we will put it up to
the Navy and it will depend on how quickly the

Navy will do it. We can then tell you.

Gaston:

It is really the Navy that has asked the British.

H.M.Jr:

Well, say so.

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

You say they could probably all be completed by

March 15.
Gaston:

That was the old changes.

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7H.M.Jr:

Well, you have got this time limit here.

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

I just think you could say, with the exception

of one, they are all on the West Coast; and
then, however, we do not know what armament

the British will desire, and the Navy Depart-

ment has asked and so forth. Time of delivery
would therefore depend on that. Now, if you

will
fix that up and get it back to me this
afternoon.

Gaston:

Yes. Now, we have--

H.M.Jr:

Now, there should be a companion letter which

would go with it - oh, I think I would put it

on the same thing. "Now, Mr. President, if we
do this, the Coast Guard needs the following

in exchange." I would put it right in the same
letter.
Gaston:

Well, there is the other thing too, of what
this is going to do to our present set-up.
We can't get ships immediately. What this is
going to mean to us, and what help we will
have to have in being able to cover our there is a memorandum on that.

H.M.Jr:

Do you understand what I want on this letter?

Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Don't say the President's emergency fund, be-

Gaston:

cause he always hits the ceiling on that. Say
the deficiency appropriation. He says there is
no emergency fund. He says that consistently,
so say deficiency appropriation.
Should we cover this in the same letter?

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-8H.M.Jr:

Yes, I would.

Gaston:

And summarize that whole situation in the same

H.M.Jr:

Yes, I would.

Gaston:

The International Ice Patrol is rather an in-

letter.

volved subject.

H.M.Jr:

But it is brief and short. I would put it all
in one letter so I can have it before I go

home.
Gaston:

Now, on the type of ships--

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes.

Gaston:

The Admiral had a memorandum here suggesting

initially what the Navy would undoubtedly want

is the 327 footers, but adding to that what he

wants and the service men want would be an

alternate, and I think we had better turn that

around and say nothing about the 327 footers,
and say what we really want. What we really

want in the Admiral's opinion, the opinion over
there, is a vessel of the Cayuga-Champlain type
but lengthened to 210 feet and with more power
so as to give her 20 knots speed and still make
here a usable boat for Coast Guard purposes.
Waesche:

In other words, speed is determinate. We feel
our seagoing vessels should have 20 knots speed.
Then when you start with the speed, that determines the length and the power and to get
20 knots you have got to have a vessel about
310 feet long.

Gaston:

It costs about a half million less per vessel
than the Bibb type.

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9H.M.Jr:

Do you mind if I differ with you? What I would
ask, and I think from the standpoint of national
defense, looking after everything else, I would
like you to tell me, in order to keep free of

ice, all of the Atlantic ports, to keep free of
ice our base at Newfoundland, to have enough
ships to send up to Greenland and to Iceland,

I would put that in first because I think it
comes first, and I think, in the long run, that
Coast Guard has a - has more justification for
its existence, it is more popular with the

Congressmen, more political appeal in the broader

sense, than if you get into this other thing,

this deep seagoing stuff, which, with the Navy
so big anyway - I don't know.

Waesche:

I follow you very closely. The only reason we
need the seagoing ships at all is for these
special cruises and--

H.M.Jr:

Now, look, Admiral, you are not going to be

doing those. Let's be frank. You are not going
to be doing those, out if I can say and you can

say to the Congressmen, "After all, here are so

many harbors that we cannot keep open, so many

inland lakes where they can't bring the iron
ore down, and if you are going to expect us to

keep Halifax open, because the Canadians don't

have any ice breakers, I take it--"

Waesche:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

"And if you expect us to go to Greenland or
Iceland - now there is the talk, you know, of
shipping to Iceland and then trans-shipping

from there to England. There is a job for

Coast Guard to do."
Waesche:

Of course the type of ship which is best suited

for that sort of work is this type that we are
planning to use, the type of the Cayuga.

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The large 310 boat is what he is talking
about. If you are going to do deep sea work,
and after all, the Coast Guard can't abandon
its function of rescue at sea, and if you are
going to do that type of work, you have to have
a ship that is workable in heavy seas. You
can't have these small ships that pitch all
over and stand on their noses in heavy seas.

H.M.Jr:

Now, Herbert, let's be practical. Would you

please give me a list, what - this ship, for

itinstance,
is a-- the one like you had in Cleveland,

Waesche:

A hundred and sixty-five feet long.

H.M.Jr:

That is an ice breaker, isn't it?

Waesche:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

What I want to know is, whatever that one is,
that type of ship, how many do you need of
those and how many smaller ones do you want

and what would they cost, and I certainly would
give those priority over deep sea rescue work.
Waesche:

I agree, Mr. Secretary, but I think you will
find that - well, 225 to 250 foot is the type

of ship we want. For example, we got appropriations from Congress to build a Greenland

cutter to break the ice up there. We studied

the ships around Greenland. We had boys in
Washington who had been aboard all these ships.

We started out with a 200-foot ship, and Smith
and all the people who were up there in Greenland came down and said it was too short, so
we have now raised it to 230 feet. Now then,
from 230 feet - as a matter of fact, Smith,
Iceburg Smith, wanted a 250-foot ship for the
Greenland cutter to go up there and work in the

ice, to be able to take care of herself in

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around the south coast of Greenland, and going
into Newfoundland and so forth, and when you
get below 250 foot - you take the Escanaba-H.M.Jr:

Now look, I want two different things. One

that can go up to Greenland and Iceland or
whatever is necessary and whatever is the most

efficient ship. They keep getting bigger and
bigger all the time. These Corvettes that
they have are much smaller than your boats,

that they are building in Canada. They are

what, 250 feet?
Waesche:

I think they are, yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

I want to know how many - don't blow it up of the big ones do you need, seagoing ice
breakers, see, and what will they cost and

how many do you need for the harbor work that

Waesche:

won't go to sea? Now, can I get a list of that?
Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

And see how much they cost.

Waesche:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

And if you gentlemen will be back here again

Waesche:

H.M.Jr:

at four o'clock, I will see you at four o'clock.
I will be back at four.

And then after you have got that and totaled

that, then we will talk last about the thing

that Herbert Gaston is talking about.
Gaston:

Well, you are talking about the same thing. If
you get a heavy ice breaker type of around 250
feet, you have got an all-purpose boat that can

go out to sea and work, but these - this Itasca

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good ice breaker or sea boat, either one.
H.M.Jr:

What I am asking for is from your experience

what is the best type of thing that will work
in heavy ice and can go - clean out Halifax

or clean out the Newfoundland base or can go
to Greenland or Iceland, and then I know what

I am talking about. That is a function that

the Coast Guard should have and you can defend,

but as soon as you get into the other thing,

you are
wants.

going to be in something that the Navy

Waesche:

I follow you, and I agree with you 100 percent.

H.M.Jr:

If you don't, don't say so, but be back here at

four o'clock with Mr. Gaston, how many of these

big fellows do you want and how many do you
need, how many more do you need to do the harbor

work,
which is a different type of thing, isn't
it.
Waesche:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Running from here - the Hudson up to Albany,

you don't need that type of boat, do you?
Waesche:

No, sir.

Gaston:

One hundred twenty-five foot.

Waesche:

We have given that considerable thought in the
Coast Guard, and we feel we can consolidate
our needs into about three classes of ships.
One would be of the Cayuga class, 250 feet.
The only reason we shot it up to 300 feet, we
did feel that we should have more speed in it.

H.M.Jr:

That is where you and I differ. You are thinking of 20 knots and I am thinking of the best

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ship to break ice. You can't get an ice
breaker with a beam that is going to go 20
knots.
Am I right?
Waesche:

That is true, and of course the second type
was this intermediate type of around 175 feet,
and the third type was around a small 80-foot
boat for the harbors.

H.M.Jr:

Come back thinking in terms of ice.

Gaston:

Then maybe we want to go into the question of

whether we want a big ice cutter that can
actually break heavy ice. This country has
none except the car ferry up on Lake Michigan.

The Russians have them.
H.M.Jr:

I think we should have them.

Gaston:

We have never had anything that will really
break any ice.

H.M.Jr:

I was talking about something like the Russians
have that will break ice up in Greenland and

Newfoundland.
Gaston:

That is a different ship.

Waesche:

That is a much different ship, and of course

it is a large ship. They have got to get weight.

These two ice breakers up on the lakes are three
thousand-ton ships, over 300 feet long.
H.M.Jr:

Do you know how to build one?

Waesche:

Oh, yes. As a matter of fact, we have the plans
of the Russian ice breakers over there.

H.M.Jr:

But will you think of ice breakers and not in
terms of speed?

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H.M.Jr:

Yes, sir.
Because you can't get an ice breaker with

speed.
Waesche:

No, the two don't go together.

H.M.Jr:

Then think about it, and then say, "Mr. Morgen-

thau, we will want this kind of ship.'

If I talked to him, "Mr. President, I want the

Coast Guard - and it-is the place for Coast

Guard to keep this thing open, Greenland, New-

foundland, Iceland," he is going to like it,

and I think I am going to get somewhere. I

have failed every time up to now, and we have
failed because the Navy sticks a dagger in our

back on this thing. I don't think they want to
get in this ice breaking business. I think it
is a function, and I think it is a chance of

keeping Coast Guard going, so please don't try
to jam that 20-knot thing down me because I
can't - I have been unsuccessful with the
President now for seven years.
Waesche:

All right, sir, I realize your position.

H.M.Jr:

Think it over, Herbert.

Gaston:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Four o'clock

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1st Draft

February 28, 1941

Dear Mr. President:

The Coast Guard cutters which seem most suitable

for convoy work are the ten vessels of the 250 foot class
built between 1928 and 1932. The vessels are the CAYUGA,

CHAMPLAIN, CHELAN, ITASCA, MENDOTA, PONTCHARTRAIN,

SARANAC, SEBAGO, SHOSHONE, and TAHOE. The over-all

length of each is 250 feet, molded beam 42 feet, maximum

draft 16 feet, displacement 1,979 tons, speed 16 knots.
The gross tonnage of the earlier five built is 1,632 and
of the later five, because of minor changes in internal

arrangement, is 1,573. All are oil burning turboelectric. The earlier five develop 3,000 horse power and
the later five 3,200.
With the exception of one, the SHOSHONE, all of

the vessels are now on the east coast and all are in such
condition as to hull and machinery that they could be
turned over immediately. We are, however, in process of
adding additional armament to all of them to put them on
a war basis. This work includes degaussing, under water
sound equipment, addition of searchlights, depth charge
racks, range finders and additional guns. Armament as
agreed to with the Navy would include two 5 inch broad-

side guns, three 3 inch, 50 caliber anti-aircraft guns,

four 50 caliber machine guns and one Y gun for depth
charges.

The Navy has agreed to give, at your direction,
urgent priority to completing these changes and they
could probably all be completed by March 15, with the ex-

ception of one vessel, the SHOSHONE, which is enroute from

the Pacific Coast. With respect to this vessel, it would

probably take about two weeks longer.

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However, we do not know what armament the British
would desire and the Navy Department has asked the British

to cable advice on this point. Time of delivery would

therefore depend on what reply we get from the British.
Respectfully,

Secretary of the Treasury.

The President,
The White House.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

At 12:15 today, Mr. Pinsent, Financial Counseler of the British Babasay, called
on no. He said that Sir Frederick Phillips wanted me to know that the negotiations
of the British Government with Finance Minister Gutt of Belgium, a member of the
Bolgian Government set up in London, toward the borrowing of Belgian gold by Great
Britain had not succeeded. It appears that Gutt will not take an independent decision toward the end desired by the British, but is in consultation with Special Ambas-

sador Thounis in this country in the premises. Phillips stated that the British

treasury officials here in Washington have net been in touch with Thounis and do not
contemplate contact with his. I stated that I had not seen Thounis for several months
and thought he spent most of his time in New York. I asked Phillips whether he had
any information as to a probable early visit to the United States by Minister Gutt.

He replied in the negative. (It will be recalled that I recently learned that

Minister Gutt might be coming to the United States, and had been told by the State
Department that he had applied for a diplomatic visa to enable him to make this trip.)
Pinsent told me that Deputy Finance Minister Clark of Ottawa is accompanied to

Washington this time by Mr. Wrong, who has been connected with the Dominion Government

for some years, and who may remain in Washington for some time as liaison officer on
financial subjects.

The British Treasury officials had cabled to London after Sir Frederick Phillips'

conversation with Secretary Morgenthan yesterday morning. A wire from London had
crossed this message. The British are endeavering to follow Secretary Morgenthan's

sivice that they take care of their own financial position pending the passage of the
Lease-Lend Bill. Toward this end the British will send down some more gold from
Canada, possibly as much as $25,000,000, representing the balance that the British
still hold in Canada, together with certain accretions from new shipments to Canada
from Australia and elsewhere. The British are also prepared to "switch" French gold
is Canada against gold hold scattered throughout the world by the British. The

british officials here are cabling London today for details as to their gold and
dollar position as of February 28. They are seeking information particularly in re-

and to $40,000,000 which has been reported as hold in Australia by the Exchange

Equalisation Account of Great Britain. Pinsent is not sure whether there is still

this much in Australia. or whether this was a figure of some weeks ago that has been
diminished by shipments of gold from Australia to America.
Pinsent asked me to let him know whenever we have word of shipments of gold from
Canada, in order that their figures may be coordinated. I promised this and gave him
certain data which we had received the past two days.

P. 2.

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-2Pinsent read to me extracts from a message which the Tenancy had received free

reporting that the American Embassy there was making vigerous against
accounts.
The British
Lendon the British rules requiring payments of legacies into blocked
protest
did not contemplate replying to such protest until the Tabassy in

Treasury had on this
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are
thetheinnease
assistance
WashingtonThat
Government
subject.
mightappreciative
ascertain the British whether of
authorities
American any feelings
which the United States is arranging to grant Great Britain. They do not know, however, whether the American Treasury would desire that dollar resources of Great
Britain be diminished through exceptional release of dollar exchange to pay off
legacies due American citizens, or whether we would prefer that the rule be rigidly
exforced and dollar assets conserved.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941

For Hisa
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

When Mr. Pinsent was with me at 12:15 this noon, I told him that I was still
receiving inquiries from various individuals and concerns who desire to acquire
British direct investments in this country. Likewise Mr. Schenker of the S. E. c.
was being approached by such parties. I was following the practice uniformly of
referring such inquirers directly to Sir Edward Peacock in New York, and had advised
Mr. Schenker's office to do likewise. Pinsent agreed that this was the proper procedure. I told him, however, that some of these people had not obtained satisfaction
when they had endeavered to contact Sir Edward Peacock directly, and that the S. E. C.

had received complaints on this ground.

At 3 o'clock this afternoon the Secretary received Mr. David Schenker of S. E. C.
and Mr. Cyril Quinn of the fri-Continental Corporation. Messrs. White and Cochran.
together with the stenotypist, were present. Mr. Schenker told the Secretary of his
unsuccessful efforts in placing directly in touch with Sir Edward Peacock a number
of parties who had indicated a desire to acquire particular British investments in
his country. Furthermore, Mr. Quinn, with when the S. E. C. had worked directly in
advancing the plan for investment trusts to take over British investments, had not
been invited to call on Sir Edward Peacock. Mr. Quinn stated that he had refrained
from making a direct approach, but had heard gossip to the effect that the British
are already dealing with certain concerns on the "Street!" After a considerable conversation, which continued after Mr. Quian had left the meeting, and which the stenotypist has reported, I came to my office and telephoned Sir Frederick Phillips, requesting that he and Mr. Pinsent come to see me at 5 o'clock this afternoon. When
these gentlemen appeared I told then that I had been present when the Secretary had
telephoned Sir Frederick from the meeting above mentioned. The Secretary had wanted

no to give Sir Frederick and Mr. Pinsent, for the Ambassador's information. a definite
explanation of his position in the premises. He was such embarrassed that the S. E. C.
vas able to report that the individuals who had been referred to Sir Edward Peacock
by it had not been received by him and were not able to present their prepositions.
The Secretary desired that Sir Eward Peacock invite Mr. Quian to come to his

office for a next. I presented to Phillips a copy of the attached

amorandum
to me
after
theMonday
conference
which meeting
Mr. on
Schenker
had sent this afternoon.

I told Sir Frederick that in addition to inviting Quian to his office, Peacock should

that he had
also address a letter to Mr. Schenker
stating
received
to respect
by British reference direct from
list of inquiries with

and ask that

the investments Secretary which of the Mr. Treasury Schenker the had submitted. Peacock. these inquirers I stressed be

recommended to get directly in touch with him, Sir Edward upon

by visitors the importance of these listed inquirers, in particular, being received
by Sir Edward, or at least someone definitely in authority, whenever they might call.
Phillips appreciated the position of the Secretary, especially considering the
fact that Peacock had not yet been able to sell any direct investments and that this

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argument night be raised at any moment while Congress is debating the Lease-Lend
Bill and its supplementary appropriation. measure.

Phillips and Pinsent both promised to cooperate with us thoroughly. Since
Peaceek will be in Canada tenorrew and Sunday. Phillips may raquest Gifford to get
directly in touch with Quinn temorrow and either offer to receive him or make the
appointment for him with Peaceek for Monday.

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MEMORANDUM
DATE

February 28, 1941.

The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

TO

Secretary of the Treasury.
David Schenker.

FROM:

SUBJECT:

I am herewith sending you an itemized list of the inquiries
I have received with respect to the British direct investments in
this country.

1. Cyril Quinn, of Tri-Continental Corporation, New York, N.Y.,
who represents a substantial group of investment companies.

2. Arthur Bunker, of Lehman Corporation.
3. Wilder Bellamy, of the National Bond and Share Corporation,
New York, N. Y.

4. Raymond McGrath, of American General Corporation and a

representative of the United States & Foreign Securities
Corporation.

5. Frank Ryan, of John J. Ryan & Sons, 40 Worth Street,
New York, N. Y., Worth 2-3423, who represents a group
interested in purchasing American Viscose Co.
6. Carl M. Loeb, of Rhoades & Co., 61 Broadway, New York,

N. Y., who are interested in the purchase of
Oxo, Ltd., Boston;

Bovril of America, Inc., Philadelphia;

Hartley's Marmalade Co.;

R. T. French Co., Rochester, N.Y.
7. Prentiss L. Coonley, Washington Building, Washington, D. C.,
Republic 6016, of Freeport Sulphur Co., who represents
group who are interested in purchasing any chemical or
a

mining properties of the British.

8. Donald MacCrudden, vice president of Moody's Investors
Service, New York, N. Y. who is interested in the Oxford
University Press or any other publishing companies owned

by the British.

9. Ernest Kuneo, 40 Wall Street, New York, N. Y., Whitehall
3-5038, who represents a group who is interested in
purchasing Dunlap Tires.

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2.

10. Arthur Ross, of the Central National Corp., 22 East 40th
Street, New York, N. Y., Ledington 2-7300, who is interested
in H. Reeve Angel Co., Biwater Sales Corporation, and
New York Real Estate properties.

11. Mr. Waddell, of Barret, Herrick & Co., 60 William Street,

New York, N. Y., who represents a group who is interested
in New York real estate and dock properties of the
British in New York City.

12. Walter H. Merritt, of Merritt and Bangs, 36 West 44th
Street,
York, N.inY., Murray Hill 2-0320, who represents
a groupNew
interested
Burroughs Wellcome & Co., Inc., Tuckahoe, N.Y.;
Cyclox Ltd.;
Yardley & Co.;
Brown & Williamson Tobacco Co.; and
small drugs and cosmetics companies.

13. Floyd B. Odlum, of Atlas Corporation, which is interested
in Burroughs Wellcome & Co., Inc., Tuckahoe, N. Y.,
and other situations.
14. Norman L. Myers, Washington Building, Washington, D. C.,

District 0637, who represents a group interested in

purchasing the National Portland Cement.

15. Serge Rubenstein, 63 Wall Street, Whitehall 3-3833,
who is interested in purchasing the English minority
interest in the Chosen Corporation, the English company,

or the English minority interest in the British-American

Securities Co., an American company.

16. Edward J. Dimock, 49 Wall Street, New York, N.Y.,
Hanover 2-5141.

17. James Ryan, Bingham, Inglar, Jones & Houston,
99 John Street, New York, N. Y., Rector 2-4646.

18. Frank H. Barnett, Henderson & Co., 340 Pine Street,
San Francisco, California, Douglas 1303.
19. W. R. Dameron, Dover, Delaware, Phone Dover 1032.

20. Benjamin Becker, Levinson, Becker, Peebles & Swiren, 1 North

La Salle Street, Chicago, Illinois. Central 8130.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941

Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

E. H. Foley, Jr.

At 2:30 o'clock this afternoon Mr. Sullivan and I attended a
conference at the office of Solicitor General Biddle. With us

were Messrs. Wenchel and Kades.

Representing the Department of Justice in addition to Solicitor

General Biddle were Assistant Attorneys General Clark and Shea,
Special Assistants to the Attorney General Gardner, Key, Raum and
Tweedy, and Mr. Sidney Kaplan, one of Mr. Shea's principal assistants.

The first question discussed was whether or not the Government
should ask the United States Supreme Court to review the case of
Standard Oil Co. V. Lee, decided by the Supreme Court of Florida on
December 20, 1940 [199 So. 325]. This case involves the question
whether sales of gasoline, by the Standard Oil Company to contractors

for use in the construction of the Naval Air Station at Jacksonville
which is being built by the United States on a cost plus basis, are
taxable under the Florida Gasoline Tax Act. The Court held that although the tax falls ultimately upon the Federal Government and in-

creases the cost to the Government, the burden was consequential and

remote and that the tax was therefore constitutional.

I stated that I thought the Government should ask for a review
of the case and argue in the Supreme Court that the tax was constitutional urging the Court to overrule earlier cases to the contrary.
[Panhandle Oil Co. V. Mississippi, (1928) 277 U. S. 218; Indiana
Motocycle Co. V. United States, (1931) 283 U. S. 570]

Mr. Shea stated that he took a contrary view of the case; i.e.,
that he wanted the Department of Justice to ask for certiorari and
argue in the Supreme Court that the tax was unconstitutional. Although Solicitor General Biddle did not express himself, it was clear
that none of the other representatives of the Department of Justice,

except possibly Mr. agreed with Mr. Shea. Mr. Shea then

stated that
he if Kaplan,
the Supreme
Court
was review
thought
that, asked
recommend
to

the case on this basis, the Department of Justice should

legislation prohibiting the imposition of sales, gross receipts, and

similar taxes upon transactions involving national defense matters.

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Mr. Sullivan stated that introduction of such legislation, even
it did not pass, would kill any chance of enacting a statute at

this session subjecting future issues of state and municipal securities to the Federal income tax. I took the same position and stated
that I felt that the Treasury's position was the same as that taken
by the Attorney General in a letter to you dated April 17, 1939 relating to a proposal that the California Retail Sales Tax be challenged had
withsaid:
respect to Government purchases, in which the Attorney
General
"Resistance to the tax coming from the Federal Government
would be inconsistent with the position of the Government
generally
taxation. in cases involving constitutional immunity from

This is consistent with the position which Solicitor General

Reed took when he appeared before the Court in James V. Dravo Contract-

ing Co., [(1937) 302 U. S. 134], and which has been the Administration

policy-since that time. Mr. Clark agreed with me that but for this
policy
we would
not have progressed toward eliminating tax-exempt
securities
and salaries.

The Solicitor General then expressed the opinion that he felt
the proper course was to go before the Supreme Court in the Standard

Oil case, presenting in a neutral fashion, both sides of the controversy, with a view to getting a final determination by the Supreme
Court of the validity of nondiscriminatory taxes applicable to sales

to the United States, or its agencies, and not to ask for legislation
at this session, but that he would submit the entire matter to the

Attorney General for his decision.

After a rather desultory discussion concerning the applicability
of state price fixing (fair trade) laws to sales and deliveries to

the Federal Government, I pointed out that Mr. Oliphant in 1937 had
ruled that the Treasury's contract with Sears Robuck for tires to be
delivered in Colorado was enforceable notwithstanding the fact that
Sears Robuck may have violated the Colorado statute forbidding sales
below cost; and, further, that the Comptroller General had advised

the Treasury that state sales taxes could be paid as part of the under cost
of goods purchased for the Government, whenever it was necessary

state judicial decisions to pay the tax. Mr. Gardner asked for a copy
of the opinion of Mr. Oliphant and references to the Comptroller
General's decision, which we are sending to the Department of Justice.

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I then asked for an expression of opinion from those present
upon the desirability of proceeding against bondholders of the Port

of New York Authority, as recommended in my memorandum to you of

February 21, 1941. Every one agreed that it ought to be done promptly except Mr. Raum who did not feel that the constitutional issue
would be settled in the case. In view of Mr. Raum's reluctance,
the Solicitor General said he would like to consider the matter for
a few days and asked me to give Mr. Raum a memorandum. I gave him

a copy of my memorandum to you.

As a result of the conference Mr. Sullivan and I both feel that
it would be extremely bad policy for the Administration to ask for
legislation of the character suggested by the Department of Justice
which would grant state tax immunity to defense contractors. We also
feel that the fact that there was only one dissent expressed against
our instituting a test case in connection with Port Authority bonds

confirms our view that this is sound policy and will aid materially
in securing ultimately a statute eliminating future issues of taxexempt securities.

E.r.th.

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n No. 291.
Don. 14. 1937.

the dear Metrol Peopless

A question has been relead as to the possible effect of the
Vafair Practices Act of the State of Colorado (Section have, 1937.
m. 261. approved May 6. 1937) upon the Department's contract with
Seats Recburk & Company for tires and Oubes under Glasses s and be

of the General Schedule of Supplies, with particular reference to
Section 3 of the Act, which askee 19 unlawful for any corporation

engaged in business is Golorado to coll, offer for sale, or alvertime for sale any article or product after less than the cost thereof
to such vender", the torn "gost" being further defined in subsections
(a) and (b) of Section 3.
IS appears extremely doubtful that this Act would so constreed as applicable to a contract entered into with the United States
is Washington. But even If 18 be assumed that the Act sight be so

construct, is my opinion 10 would not affect the validity of the cantrust with respect to ordere of sires and Subes for delivery in

Colorado, the provision of Section 9 that any contract
sale in violation of the not is an illegal contract. State have not be es applied as to exert central over officers of the United
States is the postereness of their deffee, OF as as to interfere with
the exercise of Federal functions (arteens VA California (1931) 263
U.S. has. 451s Jahneen . Horrison. (1920) 294 U.S. 51. 55:

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Op. No. 291.
Dec. 14, 1937.

By dear Metrol Peoples

A question has been Faised as to the possible effect of the
Unfair Practices Act of the State of Colorado (Session have, 1937.
Ch. 261. approved May 6. 1937) upon the Department's contract with
Sears Reebuck & Company for tires and tubes under Classes 8 and 49

of the General Schedule of Supplies, with particular reference to
Section 3 of the Act, which ankee 18 unlawful for any corporation

engaged in business is Colorado to sell, offer for sale, or adver-

tise for sale any article or product #for less than the cost thereof
to such vendor", the torn "cost" being further defined in subsections
(a) and (b) of Section 3.
It appears extremely doubtful that this Act would be construed as applicable to a contract entered into with the United States
is Washington. But even if 18 be assumed that the Act might be so

construed, in my opinion 18 would not affect the validity of the con-

tract with respect to orders of tires and tubes for delivery in
Colorado, notwithstanding the provision of Section 9 that any contract

made in violation of the Act is an illegal contract. State laws may
not be so applied as to exert control over officers of the United
States in the perfernance of their duties, OF se as to interfere with
the exercise of Federal functions (Arisona v. California. (1931) 283
U.S. 423. 451; Johnson v. Marrland. (1920) 254 U.S. 51. 55: Ohio r.

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Theme. (1699) 173 U.S. 276. 283: and see 011 Gemean v. Easy.
(1928) 277 U.S. 216, 222), and $ feel that this rule clearly frees Gov-

error officers from the accessity of accertaining is each case, is
order to insure the complete validity of supply contracts, whother the
prices offered by a bidder comply with the laws of all states share
deliveries may be desired. See, also (1937) 17 Comp. Gen. 267. 2891
(1936) 16 Comp. Gen. yrs. 350: (1936) 16 Gomp. Gen. 97. 981 and (1935)
15 Gomp. Can. 425. 486.

I as thus of the epinion that the contract is valid and that
the contractor may legally be required to furnish tiree and tubes is
Colorado at the prices provided by the contract. See (1909) 28 Op.
ASSY. Gen. 127. 128. Further, 11 may well be that under such circus-

stances the contractor could not be subjected to the oriminal penalties
provided by Section 11 of the Act. In Oabern v. Bank of United States.
(U.S. 1624) 9 Wheat. 736. the following distun appeare (at 867):

#Can a contractor for supplying a military post with

provisions, be restricted from making purchases

within any state, or from transporting the provisions
to the place at which the treeps were stationed?
or could he be fined or taxed for doing set We have
not yet heard these questions answered is the of-

fireative. IS is true. that the property of the

contractor may be taxed. as the property of other
citizens and so may the local property of the bank.
Dut we do not admit, that the ast of purchasing. or
of conveying the articles purchased, can be under

state centrol."

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-3 the above statement was eited with approval and the first two contences

thereof were quescé in a dictua in delaces L Married (1920) egt
U.S. 51. 96. Sr. United States v. Benter, (1093) the U.S. 220; shis
L. Thomas. (1899) 173 U.S. 276, Introsist v. United States. (1902)
187 U.S. 1. But st. Pidelity & Reposit Go. v. Pennsylvania. (1916)
240 U.S. 319: Netcalf & MM v. mitchell. (1986) 269 U.S. 524. But
whatever the situation may be with respect to the contractor's eria-

taal liability. the Department 10. of course, under no obligation to
act as its legal sivicer. The contractor should be required to make
deliveries is Golorado in accordance with the contract, and to outtle
with the State authorities any question which may be raised as to the
legality of such action.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) Horman Oliphant.
General Genesel.

Non. C.S. Peoples,
Director of Precurement.

12/8/37
Copiedizgs
2/28/41

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February 28, 1941
2:37 p.m.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Secretary Wickard.

Secy.

Wickard:

Hello. I just had a call from Pa Watson saying
that our friend, Campbell, is going to Europe

because the British want him, and he's not
going officially - he's just going. Do you
know anything about that?
H.M.Jr:

I don't know a damn thing about it. I was at
the White House for supper last night and he

was there. It's the first time I ever met him,
and I was amazed to learn that he was going
to go. That was the first that I knew about

W:

H.M.Jr:

it. I thought the matter was dead because
Purvis never mentioned it to me again.
Yes. Well, I didn't know whether you knew that
he was going at all or not and that's the reason
I called you.

No, I only learned of it there and I met him,
but what has happened I don't know.

W:

Well, I understand he's not going officially,

but I understand that the British have requested
him to come according to the information that the
President has had. Now, I know what kind of an
inside worker he is and he's build up his own
case, as I told Pa Watson, but Pa told me that
the Boss has said he may go if he wishes and

H.M.Jr:
W:

if they want him to come 80 I think the thing
is a closed issue.
I think so.
Now, one other thing I want to talk to you about.

Have you heard anything about whether Mr. Purvis
has some breakdown of the British fruit requirements?
H.M.Jr:

Not that I know of.

W:

We get that from some other sources. One thing
that gives us trouble all the time 18 that we
hear from two different sources concerning the
British requirements. Apparently they have a

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together and communicates with us over here
and then some of it comes through Purvis. We
don't knowto.
which one we should give our
attention

H.M.Jr:

W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Why don't you send for Purvis and have a heart-

to-heart talk with him.

Have Purvis come over.
I would.

Well, I expect that's a good idea.
I'd send for him.
I tell you what we were doing. You remember
the President asked me to make some study of

the refrigerated space and we're working on
that. of course if we knew about what they

wanted why we could come a little more nearly
satisfying the query as to whether the space
would be adequate or not.
H.M.Jr:

Well, Claude, I would send for him, and just
tell him what you told me.

W:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

O.K.?

W:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

Should I - if the President saye anything about
my getting in touch with Purvie through you that is not necessary?

Oh, no. Just call him up - don't bother you and I know each other well enough.

W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

All right.
You won't have any trouble with me.

All right. How is this thing shaping up?
Like we talked about the first of the week as
far as

.....

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-3H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

Yeah, I think so.
a. far as the purchasing of
You see I don't know how Harry will feel about
the whole thing but as far as I'm concerned

until it crystallizes I'd certainly call up

Purvis.
onhim.
maybe Harry will want you
to do it Later
through
W:

H.M.Jr:

N:

H.M.Jr:
W:

I see. Well, I didn't know whether there had
been any further discussion along this line or
not. I hadn't heard anything from the White
House and I didn't know whether you had any
more information on it or not.
No, not now, and I'm not trying to be

either. There's just nothing to tell.
All right.
Right?
O.K.

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February 28, 1941
2:41 p.m.
H.M.Jr:
Wm. S.

Knudsen:

H.M.Jr:
K:

Hello.

This is Bill.
Hello, Bill.
When you had us for lunch yesterday, I
didn't know the numbers of the planes that
are coming through that carry the 2 3350

engines, and there are four of them. There
are two 4-motor bombers, B-29 and B-32; there
is a 2-motor bomber, B-33 and there 18 a Bell
pursuit plane, P-62. They are all due in
October of this year.
H.M.Jr:

K:

Now those planes are going to have what kind
of an engine?

The big motor - the 2200 h.p. you were talking

about, the 3350.
H.M.Jr;

Oh, they re going to take - did they take
the Wright or the Pratt-Whitney?

K:

H.M.Jr:
K:

No, they're taking the Wright.
And those planes will take the big engine.

That's right. I knew that they were in

development but I didn't know the numbers of

them when I spoke to you so I thought I'd call
you and tell you.
H.M.Jr:

But the Army has no orders for those big
engines.

K:

Well, they have now in the 12,000 program,

you see - in the program that follows this
they have these engines.

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

oh, that's in the program which is yet to come.
That's right.
of course I didn't know that.

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No. That's the reason I called you up to

tell you that I knew these planes were coming
through and the main part of the engines you
showed me yesterday of course were for the
stratosphere planes. You remember that.

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

That's right.
But here are four new developments.
That's a 4- engine

Two 4-engines, a 2-engine and a pursuit.
Yeah, so there is something coming along.

Yes, sir.

And the engines will be included in this next
program.

K:

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

Yes, sir.
Well, that's encouraging.

All right.
Thank you.

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February 28, 1941
3:00 p.m.

RE AID TO BRITAIN

Present:

Mr. Cochran
Mr. White
Mr. Quinn
Mr. Schenker

Schenker:

Mr. Secretary, I have had quite a few requests
from people who are ostensibly reputable --

H.M.Jr:

Like Mr. Quinn?
(Laughter.)

Schenker:

He is superficial.

H.M.Jr:

I see. I just wanted to be sure.

Schenker:

And of course these people keep calling me, as
Mr. Quinn has been calling me. Now, I feel

that I am in this position. If I tell these

people I have nothing to do with it, I have no
contact with the British themselves, that is
all right with me, see. Somehow or other when

I implicate that, they don't believe that, so
they persist in calling me. Now, Mr. Quinn
finds himself in this position, that he has

got this group and they have made fairly extensive plans and he hasn't heard from them.
I also understand, although I am not sure of
this, that Bobby Lehman wrote to the British
and said he was ready to talk to them, and I

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think they didn't even acknowledge his letter.

So what I would like to find out for myself,
is whether I should just drop the whole business and tell these people, as far as I am
concerned
it is all off, and just call the
British
or what.

Mr. Quinn has a little different angle. He
feels that he would like to be helpful in the

picture and that he has got an idea that he
would like to formulate a plan that may be of
some help.

H.M.Jr:

Have you seen Sir Edward Peacock?

Quinn:

I haven't gone to see him, Mr. Secretary, because I followed - talking with Dave, I followed
the policy of having - this thing having been
mentioned to them and just waiting until they

were ready to talk. I had the feeling that

they probably were busy and that I didn't know
whether I was to move or not. In the meantime,

there have been all these stories, which I don't

know how accurate they are, saying that there
is a change in plan; and I didn't want to move

until I got worrying a little bit.
H.M.Jr:

No, there is no change in plan.

Quinn:

I appreciate they must have quite a job getting
this stuff assembled and getting their own

figures on it.

Scherker:

Quinn:

Why don't you give the Secretary your idea with
respect to one operation?

Here is the thing that has been running through

my mind, and I will just broach it. It seemed

to me that this group of investment companies,

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we are in a position where if they did -

did want to buy and the price was attractive

and business seemed good, that they would be

able to move without the 20-day waiting
period, because they would be, in effect, buy-

ing for investment, and that under those circumstances, you had, it seemed to me, this

desirable thing. I am speaking now from the

British point of view. You had this thing

that if you picked out something that was
doable and could be done relatively easy, they

would be doing something.

At the same time, I counted up the number of
shareholders roughly represented in that group,
and there is something like 500,000 shareholders.
H.M.Jr:

In what group?

Quinn:

In that group of investment companies, so that

if the transaction were profitable from the

point of view of the investment companies,
that profit would go to a large number of share-

holders scattered all over the country, and I
would think that from their point of view they

would get the maximum of psychological benefit

out of that transaction, and then I think it

would be very unfair to push them into a lot of
transactions now, even if that were the desirable thing to do, because you can't move

too fast on it.
H.M.Jr:

But haven't they sent for you or anything?

Quinn:

No, sir, they haven't. I talked to Dave about
it for a minute, and my feeling was that I
didn't know quite - I had the feeling that I
ought to sit quiet and wait.

Schenker:

The impression I got, Mr. Secretary, the last

time I saw up. Peacock over at Chairman Frank's

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was that they would let me know, and he clearly
indicated that it would be no useful purpose
served in anybody calling him because they had
a routine answer, "We are working on it, and

we are not prepared to talk," and that is the

answer to all these people. Virtually all of

them have gotten the answer I suggested. "Don't
prejudice yourself by relying on me, and you

call up, yourself." That was the answer they
received in almost every instance.
Cochran:

Have they received that recently, too?

Schenker:

As recently as three days ago.

Cochran:

Because for a while they told me that, and then
they said they were in shape to receive the people.

Quinn:

I have heard rumors that there were negotiations
with people, but two of the rumors I checked up
myself and were not correct.

H.M.Jr:

They haven't sold anything yet?

Schenker:

They haven't even carried on negotiations.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, they have been carrying on negotiations, but
they haven't made any sales. How many can I tell
them you have got? Have you got a dozen?

Schenker:

I have got 20 requests and these are for virtually specific properties. One is the Oxford

Press, one fellow wants the New York Real
Estate, the Freeport Sulphur Company, the R.B.
French Company, and these people are interested

in specific companies; and one of the biggest
ones is a fellow who represents a group and is
interested in buying Viscose and told me his
idea was 60 to 100 million dollars and they
would pay cash right on the barrel head. These

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people are different people. He called up,

and he was one of them who called up

recently. He said that at that time.

My only concern, Mr. Secretary, is that I
don't want them to say to me, You prejudiced
me, I relied upon you, or I would have done

business with them directly." I tell them to
do that, but somehow or other --

(Telephone conversation with Mr. Phillips
follows.)

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February 28, 1941
3:10 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Sir Frederick Phillips.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Phillips:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Phillips, Morgenthau. I have here with me

Mr. Schenker of the Securities and Exchange
Commission and Mr. Quinn, who got together

that investment trust group.

P:

H.M.Jr:

I see.

Now they say they haven't heard a thing from
anybody and they want to know if the English

are interested in selling. Mr. Schenker here
has 20 separate requests from 20 people who
want to buy 20 different English properties and
he says he doesn't know what to do. He said
nobody representing the British Government
seems to be interested.

P:

Well, I had a talk with Peacock when he was
here and he told me he was going to get in

touch with Mr. Schenker on this at once. I

don't know whether he has done so; I suppose
he hasn't.
H.M.Jr:

P:

Well, to put it mildly, it's very embarrassing
for me to be apologizing all the time.
Yee, I know. I thought Peacock was actually

getting in touch with him. It was only two or
three days ago.

H.M.Jr:
P:

Well, evidently he didn't.
Evidently he didn't. I'11 get in touch with
him to make sure he does.

H.M.Jr:
P:

H.M.Jr:

Well, something ought to happen.

Yes, I think.
Neither the Securities and Exchange or myself
know what to answer these people.

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H.M.Jr:

P:

H.M.Jr:

Yes,
I agree.
at once
on that.I'll get in touch with Peacock
And why can't he send for Mr. Quinn. He's
in New York, but he's here sitting here now.
Yes.

And what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask

Mr.
Schenker if he'll send you the list that
he has.
P:

Yes, all right. I'm quite glad.

H.M.Jr:

He'll send you the list and if Mr. Peacock

could send for Mr. Quinn why I'm sure he'd be

glad to come around and see him Monday.
P:

H.M.Jr:

Right. If Mr. Schenker will do that I'll see
that it is got on with at once.
And I'm preparing a formal memorandum in answer

to the one that I received from the Ambasaador.
I hope to have it Monday.

P:

Right-o.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

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H.M.Jr:

Is that plain enough?

Quinn:

Quite.

H.M.Jr:

He said that Peacock was supposed to have gotten

in touch with you (Schenker) in the last couple
of days. You can lead a horse to water, you
know.
Quinn:

Well, I felt I didn't want to move, Mr. Secre-

H.M.Jr:

I am glad you came in, and I have got nothing up
my sleeve, but all I hope is that somebody on
the Hill doesn't send for me and ask me the same

tary, until I got oriented.

question.
Quinn:

I think you get a little of that impression talking to some of the various people. They say
that -- well, we don't think anything will
happen.

Schenker:

Just stalling until the Lease-Lend Bill passes.

H.M.Jr:

I would like you (Schenker) to stay, if you
don't mind. I am glad you came in, Mr. Quinn.

Quinn:

Right, sir, thank you, Mr. Secretary.
(Mr. Quinn left the conference.)

H.M.Jr:

Now, let me tell you something you can repeat to

Jerome, but I don't want it to go to your Board.

I got this memorandum from the British, you see,
and I am talking as much for the benefit of
Cochran and White as for yourself. Have you
(Cochran) got copies of it?
Cochran:

No, not of the memorandum.

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H.M.Jr:

In this thing, what they have done is, they

say they will turn over all their direct invest-

ments to the President and he should go ahead

and tell them when to sell and when not to sell.
Now, I told - it was brought in by Halifax and

I told him my first reaction. I said, "I am
not going to let the President be put in that
position, if the British investors get sore,

they can be sore at Sir Edward Peacock but not
at my President."

He asked me to take this thing, and I wouldn't

take it, and I said furthermore, "I don't want
to get in the business of selling properties
and be stuck with that kind of tar." I said,
"I have got a clean organization, and I don't

want to get mixed up.

Well, I went over to see the President and his
immediate reaction was the same as mine, that

they were dumping it all in our laps.

Now, I haven't answered them yet formally, but

they say that the trouble is that they are
having great, great difficulty in making sales.
Now, the first thing that they tried to put
through was the sale of this -Cochran:

Viscose.

H.M.Jr:

Viscose. How did they try to do it? They went
to J.P. Morgan to get a loan, you see, and no

passing of title. I told them absolutely no.
I said, "They want title to pass, but they certainly don't want J.P. Morgan to do it." I
think they brought it in here three times,
always a little bit different, and we always
said "no." I am talking in the room here.

Schenker:

I understand.

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H.M.Jr:

The understanding is that before anything passes,
they will 1ct us take a LOOK at it and see that

there is nothing that any Trust or anything
which is - which we think is contrary to what
the administration would like to have, and it is
the only thing that they have brought in here.
Schenker:

I am convinced, Mr. Secretary, that this group
could handle Brown and Williamson, possibly

American Viscose, They could do it expeditiously,
fast, paying the money, and not disrupting the
market because they would hold substantially all

of it in their portfolios and possibly at some

subsequent date undertake a secondary distribution when they had the chance to effect the

registration.

Now, American Viscose, I have got these people
who have been on me. They say, "Mr. Schenker,
I am not kidding, those people are prepared to
buy that and we are prepared to pay 60 to 100
million dollars depending on what the income is,

and we will give them a cashier's check."

H.M.Jr:

Now, I have got to talk to you. This is terribly
confidential, you see.

Schenker:

I will forget it as soon as you tell me.

H.M.Jr:

I mean you have just got to be - you just can't
even - some things are confidential and some

things are extra-confidential.
Schenker:

Sacred.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they are, because this whole bill is tied
up in this thing, and these fellows, you see,

tell us how much money they have got. They don't

know whether they can last until the bill is

passed, and I have told them they had to, not
to come around and bother me, because there is

nothing that I can do for them until the bill

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passes, but then if the bill passes, I might
consider - I haven't told them yet - that we

might go up to the Hill and say, "Now, look,
gentlemen, here is 900 million dollars worth
of direct investments, and we would like a
vote of confidence or approval from Congress
that we can advance against that from the
Stabilization Fund 75 per cent of what we

think is the value;" but the English are

going to have to do the selling, we are not

going to sell it. If they come to us and
say, "Is it a satisfactory price?", we will

say, "Yes" or "No" but they have got to do the
negotiating, you see, we don't want to get

in on it. I would want the help of the S.E.C.,

the Evaluation Section, and so forth and so on,
because we haven't got it and you fellows have.
Schenker:

We have a big staff.

H.M.Jr:

And the President said, well, he thought

that sounded all right and Jones hoped to get

a bill. He wants to do the business. You saw

that story in the Wall Street Journal of all
the stuff Jones had been giving out. He is

crazy to get his finger in this thing. What

is going through my head is this. I am thinking of calling up the British Ambassador in view
of this thing and ask him when he can come down
with Phillips and just give them - read them
the riot act and simply say, "A representative

of the S.E.C. has 20 different business men, and
they can't even get into see this fellow Peacock."

Schenker:

They haven't sent for Quinn, and Quinn can get

together 50 or 60 million dollars just like

that.
H.M.Jr:

And here is Phillips, says he hasn't got the
money.

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Don't you think your last telephone conver-

sation will stir them up?

H.M.Jr:

No. Halifax came to see me. I would like
to give it back to him. He brought me a

message for the President from the Prime
Minister.
Schenker:

I think the most unfortunate thing that can

happen, Mr. Secretary, is for the American
Government to handle that.

H.M.Jr:

You agree with me?

Schenker:

Oh, there is no doubt about it. With all the
rumblings that you get about Ed Flynn being

at the Mayflower and everything else, I wouldn't
get within 50 miles of him, because as soon as

you suggest the name and if you ever sold them

the property, three weeks later I would be up
on the Hill with a subpoena, where did I get
this fellow's name?

H.M.Jr:

You are with me a hundred per cent, but I

couldn' t get that over with Purvis, he couldn't
understand that. I could, for instance, get

the evaluation section over there to give me
some idea of what the property is worth, if we
made a loan, but we haven't arrived at that

point yet. I could get that and keep it be-

tween the S.E.C. and the Treasury. There is
no reason why Jesse should get into this. Do

you see any reason why?
Schenker:

No. But I think Mr. Jones is making preparations to go ahead, because I got some phone

calls and I called Wright over there and he

referred me to Mr. Johnston, and Mr. Johnston

said he was in the throes of preparing the
form of procedure that will have to be followed
with individuals who desire to make loans against

these investments and they haven't abandoned them,

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H.M.Jr:

I don't think, and they said they would be
prepared in the early part of March.
Who is this fellow?

Schenker:

Costello. That is the individual I spoke to.

White:

Well, something will be done. It depends if nothing is done they will have a stronger
case to come before Congress, particularly if
they are able to say that nothing has been
taking place.

H.M.Jr:

Well, he has got to get legislation. Mind
you, Jones is talking to the President. He
has got to get the Johnson Act knocked out,
before he can do it, although Jones claims,
and you (Schenker) are an attorney, the
Johnson Act does not include a government
corporation.

White:

Well, that is what your legal staff claims,
too.

Schenker:

Well, the only thing I want to do, Mr. Secre-

tary, is to get myself out of this position.

I knew that you were anxious to know whether there
was any -H.M.Jr:

Well, can you see now? I can't give you a yes
or no.

Schenker:

Well, I will stay with it as long as you want
me to. I think maybe I should.

H.M.Jr:

I would stay with it this way and see what
happens, and I would tell anybody to get in
direct touch with Sir Edward Peacock and tell

them if they can't get in to see him, within

twenty-four hours from the time they get the

refusal, to let you know, that they are to see
Sir Edward Peacock, and if they can't get in

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within twenty-four hours you tell them to
let
you
know
and you bring it to my attention.
How
is that?
Schenker:

All right, I will.

H.M.Jr:

Do you think, Harry, I should try to get Halifax down here and make a big thing out of it?

White:

I would be inclined to wait and see --

Schenker:

Wait until Monday in the light of the conversation.

White:

See what they do with Quinn and the others and
until you have also finished your memorandum
and had a chance to suggest what you are --

H.M.Jr:

What do you think, Merle?

Cochran:

Exactly the same.

H.M.Jr:

I didn't mince matters any, did I?

White:

He got it. Phillips gets that kind of thing.
It was very clear.

H.M.Jr:

Now, Phillips told me when he was in here you (Cochran) check my memory. I didn't see
him alone, did I?

Cochran:

I was with you.

H.M.Jr:

Didn't he say he was absolutely opposed to doing
this thing through a mortgage.

Cochran:

Yes, sir. He said he wanted an out and out sale.
You said, "I agree with you. We have the same

principle but for different reasons.

Schenker:

I am surprised they haven't taken this approach.

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I don't know how expeditious it is. I thought

what they were going to do is probably take a
company like American Viscose and give out a

50 million dollar debenture issue and they
stay with the equity stock and control the

company. I am surprised they haven't broached

that. Have they?
White:

I doubt whether that would be legal, would it?

Schenker:

Why?

White:

Well, wouldn't that run into both the Johnson
and Neutrality Acts?

Schenker:

Well, it is a private company.

White:

Yes, but they are agents of the Government. But
Mr. Secretary, there is one point you stated.

I wonder if it is correct. If it isn't correct

you may want to correct it. As I understood it,
you told Mr. Schenker, and he would pass it on
to his chairman, that Halifax stated they were

going to turn these properties over to the President. It was my understanding that what they
were going to do was, they wanted to turn the
problem over to you and they will do whatever

you say. I don't think they were going to turn
the properties over.

Cochran:

In one of these - there were two memos, the first
and the second one. I have a copy of the first
and not the second. In that second one, as I

recall it, they included that vesting of title
in the United States also.

H.M.Jr:

That is right.

Schenker:

The only thing I would like to tell the chairman,
if I may, Mr. Secretary, is - I don't know whether

you want him or anybody to know - I think he may

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feel there is some compulsion to tell the rest
of the Commission. I think I would only like

to tell him that - ask him whether the Commission
would be prepared if at some time it becomes

necessary to assist the Treasury in the evaluation of these properties and nothing about whether
title should be turned over or a loan, because

if it ever leaks out I don't want to be --

H.M.Jr:

And tell him nothing else.

Schenker:

Because I think he would be duty bound to tell
the Commission.

H.M.Jr:

That has happened before.

Schenker:

Not that I am casting anything on Jerry. He would
be bound to tell the rest of the Commission and
the stenographers and all of that.

H.M.Jr:

Let me tell you what he did once before. We got
these daily figures on the sales of English
stock. I said, "Do you want these?" and he

said, "No." Isn't that right? Or was it the
list of - no, it was the list of the stocks, and

he said, "No2" because he says, "I can't guarantee

White:

you secrecy. It was the list. Wasn't it?
It was the list.

H.M.Jr:

He said, "I don't want it."

Cochran:

Well, we had the talk also on the daily sales,
because he had us put it up to him in such a

way that he wasn't permitted to pass it on. He
said if it were on his own responsibility, he
would feel obliged to.
Schenker:

Well, the only thing I will tell him is that I

talked to you and that you talked to the British

and told them to get moving and so forth and

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be in the position to assist the Treasury if

at some time they wanted our assistance in
connection with the evaluation of these
properties.
H.M.Jr:

Yes, and then I think you (Cochran) might send
for Phillips and tell him I am very much upset
over this thing, you see, and for him to come
in one day and say he is broke and the next day
I hear that there are twenty people who want to
buy businesses. The two and two just don't add
together, and I am very much upset.

Cochran:

As a matter of fact, I spoke to Pinsent this noon
on it. He was in to see me at 12:00 o'clock on
some other things I would like to mention after
awhile, and I said, "I am still referring people
up there and the S.E.C. definitely has a problem
because people are looking to the S.E.C., and
they haven't had any answers," and I said, "I
don't know how my people have fared, I haven't

had any comebacks.
H.M.Jr:

Why don't you send for them, Phillips and Pin-

sent both, and Phillips will repeat it to the

Ambassador, and you tell them I am really not
only embarrassed, I am very much upset, that
here are the people, they say they are here as
a group with a hundred million dollars, who want
to do business and they can't do it, and on the
one hand he says he is going to go broke and on
the other hand here are people with their tongues

hanging out trying to get this business.

Cochran:

Did you want Mr. Schenker to give that list by

mail to them?
Schenker:

No, I will give it to you.

Cochran:

I could give them this list when they come in.

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H.M.Jr:

He has got a copy there,

Schenker:

I will get it with the names and addresses and
have it over before 4:30.

Cochran:

All
right, I will try to get them here at 5:00
then.

H.M.Jr:

Is that agreeable to you, Mr. Schenker?

Schenker:

Yes.

Cochran:

It is direct evidence that we have this problem.

H.M.Jr:

And Merle, bear down on them.

Cochran:

I will.

H.M.Jr:

Bear down on them and tell them that - was it
yesterday they were in here?

Cochran:

Yes, yesterday morning.

H.M.Jr:

Yesterday they were in here in the morning doing
the pauper's act, and then the next day I get
this, and I am getting very much upset and displeased.

Cochran:

I will get them both so it will get to the

Ambassador.
H.M.Jr:

Get them both and tell them that - well, I am.
I am not bluffing. And then you (Schenker) see
when you send these messages to me, I have got

no answer. But if you tell these business men,
now go and see this fellow Peacock, if they
can't get in to see him in twenty-four hours,
tell them to let you know and you let me know.
Schenker:

All right, thank you, Mr. Secretary.

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H.M.Jr:

Schenker:

Now,for
dothat
youreason.
see why? I haven't been answering
you

And with respect to Mr. Frank, I forgot what

you
told itme
confine
to about
that. this other thing. I will just
H.M.Jr:

That would be terrible if it got out.

Schenker:

I forgot it.

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February 28, 124
4:00 p.m.

Count ward Cutters
RE AID TO BRITAIN

Present:

Mr. Gaston
Mr. Waesche

H.M.Jr:

How are you coming?

Gaston:

All right. I wrote a letter. I did not incorporate recommendations for new instructions in

the letter and simply said that you expected to

submit a program next week with estimates on the
construction.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, you are not ready?

Gaston:

Well, I didn't know that the program - it could
easily be added on the last page, but I wasn't
quite sure.

H.M.Jr:

You didn't put the date of these things in? Oh,

yes, you did.
Gaston:

Yes, there are groups of five.

H.M.Jr:

I would like to put in the whole --

Gaston:

Well now, as the Admiral and the officers have

agreed upon it, it is rather short and sweet and

H.M.Jr:

it could be put in.
I hate to do it in two bites.

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Gaston:

We could just put it in on the last page, those
two paragraphs.

Waesche:

Part
this is already incorporated. You begin
in theofmiddle.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you can't put it that way. You will have
to say, if it meets with his approval.

Waesche:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I mean it is essential. "With your approval

this would be included." That is all right. It
is a little bit too snappy, a little bit too

terse.
Gaston:

Yes, I will word it that way.

H.M.Jr:

Now, let me just talk to you. This isn't the way
to present it, you see. I would say something
like this, Herbert. "For some time we have felt
that we have not been able to adequately take
care of ice conditions in our - ice conditions
along the coast, in our harbors and rivers and
lakes."

Waesche:

"And in Alaska."

H.M.Jr:

"And in Alaska," yes. "We do not have the adequate equipment for ice breaking to get into
harbors in Newfoundland and Greenland, and if
the world conditions continue as they are at
present, neither Canada or England or ourselves
are equipped with the necessary ice-breaking

vessels.

"Therefore, as a part of our national defense

needs, it would seem prudent to equip Coast
Guard with the ships especially constructed
to do an ice-breaking job wherever they may be

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called upon to do so.'
Waesche:

Wouldn't you want to bring out the point that
this is a dual-purpose vessel, that in addition
to doing that, we will so equip these vessels
so they can, carry on their off-shore patrol?

H.M.Jr:

What I want to say is, "In view of this situation, we present to you a request for money to
build ten dual-purpose ships." But I wanted
to lay the foundation. You just - "Which can
both do the ice-breaking job and off-shore
patrol," see?

Waesche:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And then I will again say, "These ships will be
of unique character," or something. I don't

think that is necessary. But the point that I

want to catch in the beginning is, so he won't
say, "Oh, I don't want any more for Coast Guard,
Newfoundland, Greenland, and so forth." But

if you just say it like this, it is no good.

Do you get it, Herbert?
Gaston:

Yes, I do. Of course, it will further strengthen

the argument. Of course he ought to see that
he is taking away ten of the best ships we have
and that we have asked for more ships before

losing those ten, but this will strengthen the

argument.
H.M.Jr:

Well just to say you are taking away ten - he

said, "I will give you the ten, but I have said
that this is going to do the thing and --

Waesche:

Here we are getting ten ships which will do
not only the work that those ten did before,
but they do the ice-breaking job as well.

Gaston:

The danger of pressing that too much is that

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they will say, "Now, you will get these ten
and they are all ice-breakers. You won't
need
any more ice-breaking equipment." But
we
will.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I am surprised you don't ask for some of
these smaller ones for the harbors.

Waesche:

We did ask for four in our last budget, and
they cut out two, and those again are dual-purpose
vessels. They do all this harbor work of carrying customs inspectors and harbor patrol and

supervising of anchorage and all of that, but
at the same time, when winter comes along they
are needed for ice.
Gaston:

Well, Admiral, we didn't ask for four, we asked
for twelve.

Waesche:

We started on a program of two a year and this
last budget we asked only for four to bring us
up to this program of two a year, and they gave
us two. We asked for ten altogether, and we so

far have gotten four out of the ten.

Gaston:

Yes, I will do that.

H.M.Jr:

If you could work that up, Herbert, and get it
to my house tonight.

Gaston:

You would like it up there tonight?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, just so it is up there tonight. All you
have got to do is change the last page. But
you get the idea. And I think this is a little
bit too wordy. I think you have got enough,

and then he is taking away ten and we come in
and say -Gaston:

Yes, I will condense that.

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-5H.M.Jr:

Are you with me on that?

Gaston:

Oh, yes. I think it will be of double value.
I don't know that --

H.M.Jr:
Gaston:

This will give us an opportunity to build the
ships that are specially designed for ice work.
You see Greenland is not so much ice-breaking

as it is for ice work. They need a bow for

forcing their way through a field of ice. It

is very different from the lake job of breaking
ice.

H.M.Jr:

I don't say that we have got to go into Halifax, but I do point out that neither England

nor Canada has any of this equipment, if I am

right.

Waesche:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Canada and England have nothing like this?

Waesche:

No, sir. They have a few sealers up there.
They don't belong to the ships, but there are
a few sealers that work in the ice.

H.M.Jr:

But Government?

Waesche:

No government ships. And of course these

sealers have little power to stand the ice

pressure.
H.M.Jr:

How do you feel after working this this way?

Waesche:

Oh, I think we can prove our point, Mr. Secretary, and this will meet our purposes very

nicely. There is one other point I wanted to

make which I told Herbert outside.
H.M.Jr:

How much beam would these have?

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Waesche:

About 42 or 43 feet, I think.

H.M.Jr:

I think I would put that in the letter.

Gaston:

Yes. I think it is in this draft here. I will

work it in. The keel would be 42 feet.
Waesche:

There is some question as to whether there is
any need for a high-powered heavy ice-breaker

such as the Russians have in the Arctic up in
the northern Greenland waters. We discussed

that a little today, but I stayed off that at

the present time, but I am going to get Iceberg

Smith on this coming Greenland cruise which is
going up there very soon.

By the way, I have a memorandum from the State
Department, from Penfield, whereby there is

only a little snow on the ground up there now,

and they could come up any time. So I am
going to have Smith this summer when he is up
there go into thoroughly a study as to whether
there is any need for this Government to have
a four- or five-thousand ton ice-breaker such as

the Russians have for that Arctic ice, but that

is too big a problem for us to decide down here
in such a short space of time.
Gaston:

It would cost about five million, wouldn't it?

Waesche:

Yes. It would be about a four- or five-thousand
ton ship, 350 feet long, with propellers on bow
and stern and a regular ice-breaker such as the
Russians have up in the Arctic..

H.M.Jr:

Where would we use such e ship?

Waesche:

The only place we would need it would be if - on
the east coast of Greenland. If we want to get
into the east coast of Greenland almost any time
of year or even in the summertime, to be sure of

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getting in then you have got to get one of
those Arctic ice-breakers.
H.M.Jr:

How about if we wanted to get into Halifax?

Waesche:

We don't need anything like that for Halifax.

H.M.Jr:

O.K. I am satisfied with this. I am willing
to go to town on it. I think he will get this.

Are there yards where these could be built?
Waesche:

Yes, sir, I won't say we won't have any diffi-

culty, but we do know - when we get ten of these

we will have a lot of people interested in it.

When we have one ship they are not bothered so
much.

H.M.Jr:

How long before you can get the first one? I

mean how long before they will be commissioned?
Gaston:

Can you have one in a year?

Waesche:

I would say a year and a half. It would be a
year to a year and a half. Not more than a
year and a half, because it would just be a
modification --

H.M.Jr:

And the last one?

Waesche:

Oh, they would come along within a month or two

of each other. We ought to get them all in
two to two and a half years.

H.M.Jr:

What would you do with the personnel on these
ten ships, how would you occupy them?

Waesche:

You mean for the time being? Well, we have need

right today, urgent need, for over half of them,
and the rest we will be able to find - we will
find jobs for them. As a matter of fact, we

will use them all on getting this Coast Guard

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reserve started. We have got this reserve

going through, and we can use most of those
people on the reserve problem.
H.M.Jr:

You know the President approved this letter?

Gaston:

Yes, I haven't had a chance to tell the Admiral.
He has approved the contract thing, so we can

do the 10 per cent contract thing.
Waesche:

That is good.

H.M.Jr:

He approved it, and I forgot to sign mine. I
sent it over without signing it, and he signed

it and Forster over there said, "It is all

right, the President signed it, but for heaven's
sake, get the Secretary to sign it too." So
we got it this time. I think you have got two

out of three chances of getting the ten when
we give up the other ten.
Gaston:

My gosh, we ought to have.

Waesche:

We would be very much up against it without them.

H.M.Jr:

Anyway, on that appeal, that basis, and not on

the speed basis. This is a useful ship.

Waesche:

It is. These ten ships they are taking away are
really all-round purpose ships. They are our

most valuable ships.
H.M.Jr:

These ten replacements would be valuable ships.

Gaston:

What did you say, 14 and a half knots?

Waesche:

About 15 and a half knots.

Gaston:

Power plants are a little better now. You ought
to get pretty close to what you do now.

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-9H.M.Jr:

What do you call economy speed on this?

Waesche:

About 11 or 12 knots.

H.M.Jr:

It would be a swell ship not to get sea-sick

in, wouldn't it? They won't roll with that

beam, would they?
Waesche:

No, they would be very stable in a sea.

Gaston:

If you want a real ride you ought to take one
of those 165-footers. You haven't been out
on one of those, have you?

H.M.Jr:

No.

Gaston:

Or take one of the Comanche type for some nice

pitching.

H.M.Jr:

O.K., gents. Say, you don't have to give me
anything. I came back on the Campbell.

Gaston:

I don't think I told you - about this Danmark
thing. We have been working on this Danmark

thing to buy that for 365 thousand dollars.
That Danish training ship. We haven't the

money and have to get the appropriations.

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2nd Draft

February 28, 1941.

Dear Mr. President:
The Coast Guard vessels which seem most suitable

for convoy work are the ten cutters of the 250-foot class

built between 1928 and 1932. The names of the vessels
and the years in which they were completed are:
- 1928
PONTCHARTRAIN - 1928
TAHOE
- 1928
CHAMPLAIN
- 1929
MENDOTA
- 1929
CHELAN

ITASCA
SARANAC
SEBAGO
SHOSHONE
CAYUGA

- 1930
- 1930
- 1930
- 1930
- 1932

The over-all length of each is 250 feet, molded

beam 42 feet, maximum draft 16 feet, displacement 1,979

tons, speed 16 knots. The gross tonnage of the first
five is 1,632 and of the later five, because of minor
changes in power plants and internal arrangement, is

1,573. All are oil-burning turbo-electric. The first

five develop 3,000 horsepower and the later five 3,200.
With the exception of one, the SHOSHONE, all of

the vessels are now on the east coast and all are in such
condition as to hull and machinery that they could be
turned over immediately. Consideration has to be given,

however, to the armament and other equipment they would

need for convoy service. Although a program of arming
and equipping all ten for service with our Navy has been

in progress, it seems far from certain that this equip-

ment will meet British needs and it seems probable also,

in view of the history of the destroyers turned over to
the British, that some structural changes will be desired.

This work could probably best be done in American yards.
We have consulted the Navy Department on this
point and the Embassy has asked advice from London. The

time when the ten cutters can be turned over for actual

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changes
and
desired and the speed with which
we
can get
theadditions
work done.
The transfer of these ten vessels means the loss

of about half the fleet of cruising cutters and the program of work laid out for the year will of course have to
be drastically revised. Among cutters of the large sea-

going class there will remain seven of the new 327-foot
type and four 240-foot ships that are now twenty years
old. Of the seven 327-footers one, the CAMPBELL, is now
on Navy service in Portugal.
The following steps appear to be necessary to

adjust this year's program to he equipment available:
(a) International Ice Patrol - The recommendation
is renewed that the International Ice Patrol be abandoned
for this year. Such patrol of the Grand Banks area as may
be necessary from time to time would be carried out to the

extent that vessels are available. If the regular Inter-

national Ice Patrol is continued it will have to be done
with vessels of the 125-foot class, which are ill suited
for this work.

(b) Greenland Patrol - This patrol can be made by
the Arctic cutter NORTHLAND, the 165-foot ice breaking
cutter COMANCHE, and a vessel of the 240-foot class. Efforts

are being made to obtain the BEAR OF OAKLAND from Admiral

Byrd for Greenland duty, upon the return of that vessel from
the Antarctic, about May 1. This is not quite as extensive

patrol of Greenland as had been planned for the coming sum-

mer, but it may be sufficient.

(c) Atlantic Weather Stations. - To maintain a two-

station patrol in the North Atlantic will require five
vessels of the 327-foot class. This will be a full-time

duty for these five vessels, and they could not be diverted

for other use. Strong representations have been made by
the British Government, the State Department, the Weather
Bureau, and the Civil Aeronautics Administration to maintain

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a third station on this Atlantic Weather Patrol, which
would require at least two more vessels. These are not
available. It is recommended that immediate steps be
taken to obtain and equip seven merchant vessels for this
duty. There appears to be no doubt but that all of the
327-foot cutters will shortly be needed for more important

duty. It ought to be possible to obtain for this work

seven of the Danish ships now tied up in our ports. If

the bare
boats
could be chartered they could be manned by
Coast
Guard
crews.
(d) Cadet Practice Cruise - No vessels whatever,

of suitable type, are now available for the Cadet Practice
Cruise, during the coming summer. This cruise is a very

important part of a cadet's training. It is urgently

recommended that immediate action be taken to obtain the
Danish training ship DANMARK, now immobilized at Jackson-

ville, Florida. Preliminary negotiations have been undertaken through the State Department.

(e) Bering Sea Patrol - Two of the 250-foot cutters

were scheduled for Bering Sea Patrol during the coming
summer. The Coast Guard has no replacements for these

vessels and, consequently, the activities of the Coast
Guard in the Bering Sea will need to be somewhat curtailed
this coming summer. The patrol will have to be made entirely
by small craft, with the exception of the HAIDA (240-foot
class).

(f) Cruise to American Colonies Southwest of Honolulu The TANEY (327-foot class) makes periodic cruises to the
colonies established on Baker, Howland, and Jarvis Islands,

and is the only vessel available for this duty. This duty

can be continued only as long as the TANEY remains available

for Coast Guard activities.

(g) General Duties - Many other duties of the Coast

Guard - such as: neutrality patrol, law enforcement, assistance to vessels in distress, towing of vessels for the

Maritime Commission, and other emergency tasks, will have

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to be curtailed.

I expect to be able to lay before you for your

approval early next week a program, with estimates, for
new vessels to be constructed to replace the ten vessels
to be transferred and to give you further information as

to
time schedule for delivery of the ten vessels to
thethe
British.
Faithfully,

3rd Draft (Final)
181

February 28, 1941

Dear Mr. President:
The Coast Guard vessels which seem most suitable

for convoy work are the ten cutters of the 250-foot class

built between 1928 and 1932. The names of the vessels
and the years in which they were completed are:
CHELAN

- 1928

PONTCHARTRAIN - 1928
TAHOE

CHAMPLAIN
MENDOTA

- 1928
- 1929
- 1929

ITASCA

- 1930

SARANAC

- 1930

SEBAGO

- 1930
- 1930
- 1932

SHOSHONE
CAYUGA

The over-all length of each is 250 feet, molded

beam 42 feet, maximum draft 16 feet, displacement 1,979

tons, speed 16 knots. The gross tonnage of the first
five is 1,632 and of the later five, because of minor
changes in power plants and internal arrangement, is

1,573. All are oil-burning turbo-electric. The first

five develop 3,000 horsepower and the later five 3,200.

With the exception of one, the SHOSHONE, all of
the vessels are now on the east coast and all are in such
condition as to hull and machinery that they could be
turned over immediately. Consideration has to be given,

however, to the armament and other equipment they would

need for convoy service. Although a program of arming
and equipping all ten for service with our Navy has been

in progress, it seems far from certain that this equip-

ment will meet British needs and it seems probable also,

in view of the history of the destroyers turned over to
the British, that some structural changes will be desired.

This work could probably best be done in American yards.
We have consulted the Navy Department on this
point and the Embassy has asked advice from London. The

time when the ten cutters can be turned over for actual

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-2convoy work will of course depend upon the extent of the
changes and additions desired and the speed with which

we can get the work done.

The transfer of these ten vessels means the loss

of about half the fleet of cruising cutters and the program of work laid out for the year will of course have to
be drastically revised. Among cutters of the large seagoing class there will remain seven of the new 327-foot
type and four 240-foot ships that are now twenty years
old. Of the seven 327-footers one, the CAMPBELL, is now
on Navy service in Portugal.
The following steps appear to be necessary to

adjust this year's program to the equipment available:
(a) International Ice Patrol - The recommendation
is renewed that the International Ice Patrol be abandoned
for this year. Such patrol of the Grand Banks area as may
be necessary from time to time would be carried out to the

extent that vessels are available. If the regular Inter-

national Ice Patrol is continued it will have to be done
with vessels of the 125-foot class, which are ill suited
for this work.

(b) Greenland Patrol - This patrol can be made by
the Arctic cutter NORTHLAND, the 165-foot ice breaking
cutter COMANCHE, and a vessle of the 240-foot class. Efforts
are being made to obtain the BEAR OF OAKLAND from Admiral

Byrd for Greenland duty, upon the return of that vessel from
the Antarctic, about May 1. This is not quite as extensive
patrol of Greenland as had been planned for the coming sum-

mer, but it may be sufficient.

(c) Atlantic Weather Stations - To maintain a two-

station patrol in the North Atlantic will require five
vessels of the 327-foot class. This will be a full-time

duty for these five vessels, and they could not be diverted
for other use. Strong representations have been made by
the British Government, the State Department, the Weather
Bureau, and the Civil Aeronautics Administration to maintain

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-3a third station on this Atlantic Weather Patrol, which

would require at least two more vessels. These are not
available. It is recommended that immediate steps be
taken to obtain and equip seven merchant vessels for this

duty. There appears to be no doubt but that all of the
327-foot cutters will shortly be needed for more important
duty. It ought to be possible to obtain for this work
seven of the Danish ships now tied up in our ports. If
the
bare
boats
could be chartered they could be manned by
Coast
Guard
crews.

(d) Cadet Practic Cruise - No vessels whatever,
of suitable type, are now available for the Cadet Practice
Cruise, during the coming summer. This cruise is a very

important part of a cadet's training. It is urgently

recommended that immediate action be taken to obtain the
Danish training ship DANMARK, now immobilized at Jackson-

ville, Florida. Preliminary negotiations have been undertaken through the State Department.

(e) Bering Sea Patrol - Two of the 250-foot cutters

were scheduled for Bering Sea Patrol during the coming
summer. The Coast Guard has no replacements for these

vessels and, consequently, the activities of the Coast
Guard in the Bering Sea will need to be somewhat curtailed
this coming summer. The patrol will have to be made entirely
by small craft, with the exception of the HAIDA (240-foot
class).

(f) Cruise to American Colonies Southwest of Honolulu The TANEY (327-foot class) makes periodic cruises to the
colonies established on Baker, Howland, and Jarvis Islands,

and is the only vessel available for this duty. This duty

can be continued only as long as the TANEY remains available

for Coast Guard activities.

(g) General Duties - Many other duties of the Coast
Guard - such as: neutrality patrol, law enforcement, assistance to vessels in distress, towing of vessels for the
Maritime Commission, and other emergency tasks, will have

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-4to be curtailed.
For some time we have felt the need of additional
and better equipment to take care adequately of ice con-

ditions on our Eastern coast, in the rivers, the Great
Lakes and on the Alaskan coast. We lack also vessels

entirely suitable for coping with ice conditions in the

harbors of Newfoundland and Greenland and Iceland; nor

do Canada or Great Britain have suitable vessels for this
purpose, which may continue for some time to come to be
of great importance.

The replacement of the ten cutters to be transferred will give us an opportunity to remedy this lack,
As a part of our National defense needs it would seem
prudent to equip the Coast Guard with ships specially
constructed to overcome difficult ice conditions wherever
they are called upon to perform service.
I am therefore suggesting a program for the construction of ten dual purpose ships at an estimated cost
of $22,500,000 ($2,250,000 each), and respectfully ask
your permission to submit a deficiency estimate in that
amount. These would be combination ice-breakers and

cruising cutters, 250 feet in over-all length and approximately 42 feet beam, similar to the ten cutters to be

transferred except that the bow characteristics would be
materially different and the vessels would be more staunchly
constructed, in order to break ice and to penetrate ice-

fields. Perhaps a half-knot of speed (of the 16 knots of

the present cutters) would be sacrificed for more rugged

construction and better ice-breaking qualities. In addition

to their value for working through ice the vessels would
also have all necessary useful qualities for towing, rendering assistance at sea, and other varied Coast Guard work.
To summarize, the program I desire to suggest for

your approval is as follows:

(1) Submit deficiency estimates in the amount of
$22,500,000 for ten dual-purpose cutters.

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-5(2) Undertake negotiations to obtain and equip
seven merchant ships for weather patrol

purposes, to be manned by Coast Guard crews.

(3) Negotiate for the purchase of the Danish
training vessel DANMARK for Coast Guard

cadet training.

Faithfully,

Secretary of the Treasury.

The President,
The White House.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941
TO

Secretary of the Treasury

FROM Alan Barth

The Senators opposing H. R. 1776 have refrained with ostentatious

virtue from embarking on a formal filibuster. Yet, in effect, they have
been engaged in a filibuster - deliberately delaying action on the bill -

ever since it moved over from the House to the Senate.

The plea of the isolationists is that they need more time in which
to prepare and present their case. It seems worthwhile, therefore, to

take a glance at the time which has already been accorded them and the use

which has been made of it.

H. R. 1776 was introduced in Congress on January 10. For a period of
two weeks, the House Committee on Foreign Affairs listened patiently and

courteously to the opinions of 15 opposition witnesses, ranging in expert-

ness and erudition from the Reverend Gerald L. K. Smith who represented
the Committee of One Million to Mr. George H. Cless, Jr., of Glens Falls,
N. Y., who confessed with disarming candor that "I do not represent any

group, organization, or association of any kind. I am here today to
speak for only one person -- myself

When the Senate Foreign Relations Committee undertook consideration of

the measure, it heard a total of 41 witnesses. Well over half of these 29 in fact - registered opposition arguments. Five of the 29 had already
expressed their views at considerable length before the House Committee.

The bill went to the floor of the House on February 3, and was debated
there through February 8. It has been before the Senate for consideration
on the floor ever since the Foreign Relations Committee reported it out on
February 13. Every Senator opposed to it has had full opportunity to

express his point of view. Proponents of the bill, indeed, have kept their
advocacy of it to a minimum in the hope of exhausting the rhetoric of the

opposition as speedily as possible.

But the Senators opposing H. R. 1776 by no means confined their forecasting of doom to the Senate floor. One reason why they may have falt a

reluctance to participate in night sessions on the bill was that they preferred to devote this time to broadcasting their message to the people at
large via the radio. The patience of attentive members of Congress during
the long debate was exceeded only by that of the general public whose radio

loudspeakers for more than an entire month have blared repetitious warnings

of death and dissolution for the Republic.

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Senators Wheeler, Walsh and Taft have each indulged themselves in two
radio outbursts against the Lend-Lease measure within the past week.
Senators Hiram Johnson, Nye, LaFollette, Reynolds, Lodge, Danaher, Capper,

Johnson of Colorado, Chavez, Tobey, Clark of Missouri and Clark of Idaho

have confined themselves to a single oratorical effort apiece on the air.
They have been bolstered to be sure, by the eloquence of others, such as
Alf Landon, John T. Flynn, General Hugh Johnson, General Robert Wood,
Norman Thomas, Hamilton Fish, and lesser lights who have availed themselves

of the free time put at their disposal to discuss the issue by the major
to fulminations on the bill over local stations are incalculable.

radio networks. The number of speeches and the quantity of time allotted

Despite the flow of words which has fattened the Congressional Record

and titillated the air waves, the isolationists have succeeded in making

converts neither among the people nor among their colleagues who will vote

on the question in the Senate. But the winning of support by persuasion is
no part of their program. Their plain strategy is to compound delay until
an explosion in the Pacific makes the public unwilling to release any part
of our defense equipment, or until a disaster in Europe makes release of
the equipment too late to be of service. A filibuster in the ordinary
sense is obviously hopeless. The opposition cannot continue to talk until
the Senate adjourns. It may, however, be able to talk until time itself
defeats the very purpose of the bill. Its method of keeping this country
from involvement in war is to court the very conditions which make involvesent inevi table.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941.
TO

Secretary of the Treasury

FROM Alan Barth

THE PRESS AND PUBLIC OPINION ON H. R. 1776

Since current editorial comment continues to pursue the trend
previously reported toward acceptance of H. R. 1776, it seems useful at

this time to examine its relationship to public opinion. Newspapers, in
the recent past, have revealed themselves as markedly antipathetic to the

political judgments of their readers.
A rather curious parallel is apparent, however, between the geo-

graphical distribution of editorial opinion on H. R. 1776 and the election
returns of November, 1940. On the current foreign policy issue, news-

papers divided, at the outset, not at all as they divided during the fall
campaign, but rather as their readers divided when they went to the polls
on November 5.

GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION

Southern newspapers solidly support the Administration position on

foreign policy. With few exceptions, they endorsed the original version
of H. R. 1776, encouraging amendment of it only as a form of enlisting
northern support for a basic program which they regarded as their own.

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189

Conversely, the editorial opposition to the bill has been strongest
in the middle western farm belt - in those very states, indeed, which
by fairly narrow margins recorded their electoral votes in November for
Wendell Willkie. Newspapers in this section are by no means preponderantly against the measure; they merely exhibit more antipathy toward it
than is apparent elsewhere.

Contrary to a rather widespread assumption, newspapers in the far

west are not inimical to the Lend-Lease proposal. The majority are supporting the President, just as their readers supported him, despite
editorial fulminations, in November.
A considerable scattering of opposition is to be found among New

England newspapers. Here, too, it is certainly not in the majority; yet,
as among the people of this region during the campaign, it is sufficient
to be formidable.

These findings conform closely with the Gallup Poll analysis of
sectional differences of opinion on the Lend-Lease proposal. Gallup

showed, on February 11, in favor of the bill: South, 77 per cent; far
west, 55 per cent; New England and middle Atlantic states, 54 per cent;

west central states, 53 per cent.
In addition, Gallup showed a single section, composed of the east

central states of Ohio, Michigan, Illinois and Indiana, in which the
opinion favorable to the measure was only 39 per cent, with 35 per cent op-

posed. Chicago, he reported, is the hub" of the sentiment against aid to

Britain. It is also, through the headquarters of the America First Committee, the American Peace Mobilization and the Chicago Tribune, the hub

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of the propaganda drive against H.R. 1776. Almost exclusively from this
source emanate such artificial protests as the mothers' march on Washing-

ton or resolutions by the D. A. R. and the Daughters of 1812.
TREND

In every sector, according to the Gallup reports, sentiment for the

bill has risen steadily since its introduction. The lag between Gallup
samplings of public opinion and publication of the results makes it difficult to gauge popular reaction to the more recent amendments proposed in
the Senate. But these amendments undoubtedly leveled a large measure of
the remaining opposition.

Newspaper support of the bill has grown similarly, as the Administra-

tion has accepted revisions of the bill's original form. But the growth
of this support has merely kept abreast of the published Gallup reports.
This seems to indicate that the newspapers are expressing what their readers
thought some time in the past and lag behind the swifter evolution of
popular opinion. Newspapers, in short, have reflected, more than they have

affected, public thinking.
One other inference seems warranted from these observations: The con-

sideration which basically motivates public opinion on H. R. 1776 is trust
or distrust of President Roosevelt. The arguments as to the dictatorial

possibilities or the dangers of war involvement inherent in the bill are the

rationalizations of editorial writers. A majority of the public backed the
President in November in large measure because it had confidence in his con-

duct of foreign affairs. A similar majority backed him when the Lend-Lease
issue was first broached. That majority has been increasing steadily in
direct ratio to the growing sense of national unity under the President's
leadership.

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February 28, 1941
4:21 p.m.

Cordell
Hull:

Hello, Henry?

H.M.Jr:

Hello. How are you?

H:

All right. Secretary Stimson called me up

about that Jim Byrnes amendment and it' 8 a

little bit hard for me to get my teeth in it.
I wanted to see what your slant is on it.

H.M.Jr:

H:

H.M.Jr:

H:

Well, we got up this little memo which War
and Navy and we signed and then sent it over.
Did you see it?
Yes,
I saw - I didn't see whether you signed
it or not.

Yeah, I signed it. Would you like me to send
you a photostat of what I sent.

Well, I've got a copy of that. Now, what I'm

trying to get to is, first, you think it's a
serious matter, do you?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, because I think it would make it very,
very difficult for the Army and Navy to operate.

H:

Byrnes didn't confer with anybody?

H.M.Jr:

Not in our shop. Well, now, wait a minute.

He asked one of our men - the way we heard
about it - he asked somebody down here whether

they wouldn't draw it up for him, you see, and
to. We refused to draw it up.

I guess that' 8 the way it came, and we refused
H:

Yes. Well, what I'm trying to get at is to get

enough material here to talk to Byrnes. Stimson
wanted me to talk with him and I'11 be glad to

talk to any of those fellows over there but it's,
as I said, hard for me to get my teeth into the
thing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, would this be helpful? The lawyer here
who has been following it is Oscar Cox. Would
you like him

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-2H:

I think he came over. I think he was with

the War Department man who came into my office.

H.M.Jr:

With McCloy?

H:

Yeah. They gave me some data and I just wanted
to see how you were impressed with this thing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I think it would make it very, very
difficult for the Army and Navy.

H:

H.M.Jr:

Well, I'll call up two or three of these

fellows and talk with them and see if I can
get anywhere. You haven't heard whether the
President talked to Byrnes or not.
No, I sent it over by letter around 1:30
'clock and I haven't heard from him since.
In that we asked him to let us know, you see,
in the memorandum whether there was anything
we could do.

H:

You asked the President.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, and I've not heard from the President.

H:

Well, then I think we'd better hear from him
so we'll know just what - don't want to work
at cross-purposes.

H.M.Jr:

H:

Well, I haven't done anything and my boys
haven't done anything other than to send this
over to the President.

Well, now I don't want to step out in front of
the President on this because these amendments
have generally been considered by you and him
there and Stimson and among them, that is

relating to this part of the bill.

H.M.Jr:

Well, he's been sort of handling it himself

and 80 I didn't want to do anything/he
asked
unless

me to.
H:

Yes. Now, I've been spending some little time
in helping fight off the Ellender amendment
and some others that I'm familiar with and I
want to help on this in any way I can if the
President wants to make a fight on it.

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-3H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't know whether he does or he

doesn't but it's in his lap right now. We're

doing
him.
H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

absolutely nothing until we hear from

Well then there's nothing for me to do.
Well, that's of course up to you but
The only thing I could do would be to talk to
some Senators, you know.

H.M.Jr:

Well, as I remember it we say, "Will you advise

us what you'd like us to do," and I haven't

heard from him 80 I'm not going to move.
H:

Yes. I see. All right then. You let me know

any of you. I'11 be reading up on this thing
and 1f and when you want me to protest to a few
of those Senators I'll be mighty glad to do it.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you so much.

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February 28, 1941
4:33 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Wm.

McReynolds: So far we haven't found any more men who were
drawing money from the British Commission and

the Federal Government too. I found that that
fellow had been transferred to Knudsen's rolls
after they moved over to O.P.M. and they were
paying him $22.00 a day as a consultant for
whenever he worked in addition to his drawing his firm drawing $2,000 a month from the
British Commission.

H.M.Jr:

Uh-oh.

McR:

Bill is praying over it today. He hasn't

made a report to me on it. I talked to Hervey

Emerick this morning and he said he'd try and
get a report in my hand before the end of the

day but I haven't got it yet. I'm going

to

call him again later. But I thought you might

like to know. We haven't found anybody else
in the same category yet and I'm having them
all checked.

H.M.Jr:

O.K., Mac.

McR:

Right.

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February 28, 1941
4:38 p.m.
H.M.Jr:
Morris
Troper:
H.M.Jr:
T:

Hello.

This is Troper talking. (Joint Distribution

Committee).
Yes.

Where would that meeting be on Sunday,

Mr. Secretary.
H.M.Jr:

It will be at my home.

T:

At your home, and what 16 the address?

H.M.Jr:

2211 - 30th Street. It's just off Massachusetts

T:

Off Massachusetts Avenue.

H.M.Jr:

That's important because 30th runs down to

Avenue.

Georgetown.
T:

I see. Is there any Northwest or anything
connected with it.

H.M.Jr:

Northwest, yes.

T:

Now, I'm trying to arrange the following:
For what time would you want that?

H.M.Jr:
T:

Well, how many would there be?

Well, I'm trying to arrange for Edward Warburg,
Harold Linder, Harold Ginsberg, Paul Baerwald
and myself. That would be five.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we'd be glad to have them for supper.

T:

Well, what time would that be?

H.M.Jr:

7:30.

T:

May I confirm that to your secretary?

H.M.Jr:

Surely. Well, you'd better send me a telegram to
to that address because I - send a telegram

my address.

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-2T:

H.M.Jr:

T:

Now I'11 repeat it. 2211 - 30th Street, N.W.
Yes.
Off Massachusetts. And that would be
at
Yes, you see there is a conference going on

down at Princeton today and tomorrow and some

of the people I couldn't reach, but I thought
that that's a varied group and there are at

least three nice young men there and I thought
that - now will you have Ed Greenbaum there?
H.M.Jr:
T:

Yes. I'11 get word to him.
I see. Anybody else that you were thinking of

having.
H.M.Jr:

T:

Well,
if I could get him I'd get Justice
Frankfurter.
I see. Well, then I'11 tell these people and
I'11 confirm it by telegram for 7:30 Sunday
evening - this Sunday.

H.M.Jr:

When do you think I'd know?

T:

Well, I'11 find out in a little while and I'll
send a telegram immediately.

H.M.Jr:
T:

H.M.Jr:

I mean I'd hear still today.
Yes, you'll hear this evening.
And if you don't remind repeat in the telegram
who is coming.

T:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

So I'd have it.

T:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that'11 be fine.

T:

Well, I'm doing the best I can. All right,

sir. Glad to talk to you. Thank you very much.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

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February 28, 1941
4:45 p.m.

Harry Hopkins just called me up and said that

after checking all over town, he finds that the best

lawyer, the most resourceful lawyer, in town is Oscar
Cox, and he would like to have him. So I said that he
was asking a lot but I would give him anything to help
him. Then he said that what he really wanted was me.
I told him that I would be here any time he wanted to
get me on the telephone or see me.

Then Hopkins told me he didn't want to build
up his own statistical organization and could he use Haas?
He said that he would have to be talking to me all the time,
and if he gave me somebody else's figures I would only have
Haas check them any way, and so if he gave me Haas' figures

he said that I would be better satisfied. I told him that
we could try it and see just how much he needed Haas as we

go along.

I asked Hopkins why he didn't speak to the

President and get him to call up Cordell Hull and get Hull
to talk to Byrnes about killing the so-called Byrnes amendment. This is the one we wrote the President about today.
He asked me if I thought it was really important and I said,
"Yes."

It certainly is interesting that the more Hopkins

goes into this job the more he wants the Treasury people,
and I think he had better move over here.

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MEMORANDUM TO THE PRESIDENT

There has been an amendment proposed

to H.R. 1776 by Senators Taft and Byrd which

Senator Byrnes has indicated he is willing to

accept in substance. Its implications are so
serious we think it ought to be called to your
attention.
This amendment provides that no defense

articles procured out of appropriations made to
the War and Navy Departments after the effective

date of H.R. 1776 can be transferred under the

bill without the consent of Congress.
This amendment would seriously cripple

the contemplated operations under the bill. It
would make it impossible effectively to carry out
a joint procurement program. It would mean practically
that we would have to have a separate Army, Navy and

foreign aid program. It would also take away the

flexibility that is necessary in disposing of defense
articles.

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We have felt justified in bringing this
to your attention because no amendment to which

administration Senators have been receptive cuts

so close to the heart of the bill.
Do you have any suggestions for us?

Henry L Stimuon
Secretary of War

Henry Mayouthan 1
Secretary of the Treasury

Fountal
Acting Secretary of the Navy

February 28, 1941.

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February 28, 1941
5:00 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Secretary Stimson.

Henry L.
Stimson:

Henry?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, Harry.

S:

I'm a good deal troubled about that Byrnes
amendment to that bill. I think it would just
take the guts out of the whole thing.
I agree with you.

H.M.Jr:
S:

Now I called up Cordell this morning and I
him a set of my own remarks on that subject
and you see he hadn't taken any part in the
analysis of the bill before the committee. I
gave him the points which I thought would show
the important - what we thought was the

asked him if he would help in it and I sent

important part of the bill and how this thing
would destroy it. I sent him a copy of the

argument that I think has been drawn up between
Cox and McCloy in regard to what the amendment
would do to the proposed system as I had set

it out in my statement to the Senate and the

House both.
H.M.Jr:

Yes.

S:

Well, I called him up again and he has read
them and told me he

H.M.Jr:
S:

I don't hear awfully well.
I say, I called him up again and talked with

him again on the phone and he has prepared

himself and is ready to go into action but he
doesn't want to do so unless the President

wants him to.
H.M.Jr:

Yeah. Well, he called me - I don't know whether
it was before or after - and he asked what my
position was and I said that in this note which
we all signed, the last sentence, we said we
were all waiting to hear from the President

what he wanted us to do.

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-2S:

Well, now frankly this is the situation. As
soon as I heard of it, which was yesterday
afternoon, I called the President up myself

and told him just this - told him I thought
this would take the guts right out of the bill

and he told me that he thought 80 too and was
doing - gave me the impression that he was

handling it so I told him I was very glad to
hear that and that if there was anything I
could do why to let me know. His voice

sounded very husky - gave me the impression

at once that his cold was worse again and I
thought that it was the part of humanity not to
talk any longer about it and I just hung up.
Now, I've done all that I dare do towards
stirring him up but you as his close personal

friend perhaps now can carry the ball a little
start Cordell going.
Well, that thing undoubtedly got into the
President's hand by 2 o'clock or earlier.
sent it over by special messenger; I sent a
copy of it to Harry Hopkins and one to the
Director of the Budget and, frankly, with the
man sick I don't like to call him up.
Well, I'm in the same position as you with the
addition that I've already called him up once.

bit further and pull the string that will

H.M.Jr:

I

S:

This would be a second time.

H.M.Jr:
S:

Has that been introduced?

Why no, it's in rumor position. It hasn't been
introduced but it has been talked about - it
may have been introduced but it hasn't been yet
fathered absolutely by Byrnes and the leaders
although the papers reported them as saying

that they didn't see any objection to it. That's

what scared me.
H.M.Jr:

Yeah. Well, frankly - you want my straight
answer - in view of the condition of his health

I don't want to call him up. He's got that

memorandum and that was a strong memorandum.
S:

Henry, here's the point: the President's whole
effort may be ditched by the failure to pull the
string on Cordell to get after Byrnes. Now I

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3-

don't like to see that rest in that way.

Would a call to Harry Hopkins help?
H.M.Jr:

Yes, I think it would.

S:

Because I think someone - I can't sit still
and watch the highwaymen killing a friend.

H.M.Jr:

S:

H.M.Jr:

I tell you what I'll do - let me see if I can
get Harry Hopkins and if I can I'll talk to
him and I'll call you
You can because I've just talked with him
on another matter that the President has given
us - you know that matter of the reconciliation
of the programs - the British programs - and he
is there now. You can get him.

Well, I'll see if I can get him and I'11 call
you back and let you know what he says.

S:

H.M.Jr:
S:

Well, I'm at the hospital to see how Palmer

is - he's been very sick.
Well, I'11 call him anyway.

You can get me at my house as soon as I get

from the hospital there, or - I don't think
it's necessary for me to wait

H.M.Jr:

S:

No, no, you go ahead and I'll let you know

later tonight.

All right.

203
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941
Secretary Morgenthan
FROM Mr. Cochran

Mr. Pinsent called on me between 5 and 6 o'clock on February 20. He said that
rumors were current in New York that the Irish Free State was endeavoring to obtain

& loan there. I told him that the Treasury had absolutely no information with
respect to any attempted or contemplated borrowing by the Irish Free State Government

is the United States. Mr. Pinsent reminded me that the Irish Free State is in the
sterling area and that the British Government is responsible for providing her with
dollars. There would be quite a complication, therefore, if the Irish Free State
should be able to borrow on our market, when Great Britain is forbidden, while the

latter still has the responsibility of keeping the Irish supplied with dollars.

BMR.

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fil.
February 28, 1941

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

There have just been returned to me by Mr. Hoover, Director
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, all requests heretofore
made for investigations by his Bureau of individuals proposed for
appointment by the Advisory Commission and other organisations
coming under the general juriediction of the Office for Emergency

Management. In only 73 of the 469 cases referred for investigation

have completed reports been received from the Federal Bureau of

Investigation. In view of the extreme slowness with which the
Bureau was able to furnish service in this matter. I have made no
effort to convince Mr. Hoover that he should reconsider his decision

to discontinue those investigations. However, it seens quite inpractical to undertake ourselves the work of investigating these
aaces. particularly since they require inquiries in all parts of the
country. and without an organisation set up with field headquarters
it wouldn't be not only difficult. but very expensive to conduct

adequate investigations. Therefore. I have made a personal request
of the Secretary of the Treasury that he authorize the Treasury's

investigative organisation to undertake this work for us. He told
me that he would be willing to have this done only at your direction.

I have, therefore. prepared and a draft to him for

your signature. making such a request. In view of the urgent need
for very prompt and thorough investigations of all major personnel
recruited for the defense agencies. plus the fact that the Treasury's
investigative organization is the largest and most widely distributed
one, I hope you will be willing to make this request.

synd

= H. HeReynolds

205

February 28, 1941

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

I have just received a memorandum from Mr. McReynolds to

the effect that investigations of persons proposed for employ-

ment in the several defense organisations which he has requested
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation have been unsatisfactory
because of the slowness with which the Bureau was able to handle

them. I have, therefore, instructed him to turn over to you

all cases requiring investigation and I wish you would have your
investigative service arrange to handle than very promptly and
thoroughly. HoReynolds will make the usual form of request for
this work to be performed by the Treasury under authority of the
provisions of the Economy Act.

206
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

February 28. 1941

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

I have just received a memorandum from Mr. McReynolds to

the effect that investigations of persons proposed for employment in the several defense organisations which he has requested
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation have been unsatisfactory
because of the slowness with which the Bureau was able to handle

then. I have. therefore, instructed him to turn over to you

all cases requiring investigation and I wish you would have your
investigative service arrange to handle them very promptly and
thoroughly. McReynolds will make the usual form of request for
this work to be performed by the Treasury under authority of the
provisions of the Economy Act.

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February 20, 1041

My dear General:

I would appreciate it if you

would arrange an appointment for me
to see the President on next Thursday,
March 6th, and hope that you can make

it his first appointment.

My purpose in seeing the President

is to lay before him, at that time, my

plans for selling Defense Savings Bonds.

Yours sincerely,
Jr.

General Edwin M. Watson,

Secretary to The President,

The White House.

By Memories 535

208

February 28, 1661

My dear General:

I would appreciate it if you

would arrange an appointment for me

to see the President on next Thursday,

March 6th, and hope that you can make

it his first appointment.

My purpose in seeing the President

is to lay before him, at that time, my

plans for selling Defense Savings Bonds.

Yours sincerely,
Jr.

General Edwin M. Watson,

Secretary to The President,
The White House.

By -

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February 28, 1941

ity dear General:

I would appreciate it if you

would arrange an appointment for me

to see the President on next Thursday,

March 6th, and hope that you can make

it his first appointment.

My purpose in seeing the President

is to lay before him, at that time, my

plans for selling Defense Savings Bonds.
Yours sincerely,

General Edwin M. Watson,

Secretary to The President,

The White House.

n-

210

February 28, 1941

My dear Mr. President:
I am sending you herewith, for

your confidential Information, a copy

of the latest statement of aircraft

shipped to the United Kingdom and other

points. The figures represent planes

which have been received at the assembly

points listed during this last week.
Yours sincerely,

The President,
The White House.

By Messager 52

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February 28, 1941

My dear Mr. President:

I am sending you herewith, for
your confidential Information, a copy

of the latest statement of aircraft

shipped to the United Kingdom and other

points. The figures represent planes

which have been received at the assembly

points listed during this last week.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed)

The President,
The White House.

Be Message

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February 20, 1941

My dear Mr. President:

I - sending you herewith, for
your confidential Information, a copy
of the latest statement of aircraft

shipped to the United Kingdom and other

points. The figures represent planes
which have been received at the assembly
points listed during this last week.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed)

The President,
The White House.

By Messenger

213

CONFIDENTIAL

(To Keep You Posted)
February 26, 1941

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: British Aircraft Shipments.

Attached herewith is the latest statement of aircraft
shipped to the United Kingdom and other points. This statement is submitted in the same form as the one which you

received last week. As you will recall, the figures represent planes which have been received at the assembly points

listed during this last week.

P.4.

214

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

STATEMENT OF AIRCRAFT SHIPPED TO U.K.
& OVERSEAS COMMANDS

By Sea
Type

Destination

Assembly

Point

during week
ending

Feb. 1.41

By Air
during week
ending

Feb. 22.41

Douglas

Boston II

U.K.

U.K.

14

-

Lockheed

Hudson III
Hudson IV

4

U.K.

U.K.

1

Glenn Martin
Maryland

M.E.

Capetown

U.K.

via Bermuda

F.E.

Singapore
(via Panama)

16

-

-

Consolidated
PBY

-

-

Brewster

Buffalo

-

27

38
British Air Commission
February 24th, 1941
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

4

215

copy given
to Mrs.Jones
February 28, 1941

3/1/41

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I - attaching herewith for your information
a copy of a momorandum dated February 26th, con-

earning British requests for clearance pending in
the War Department.

Sincerely,
(Signed) E Morganitan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

The Honorable,

The Secretary of Mar.

bj

- 3/1

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February so, 1942

Dear Herrys

I - sending you herewith a copy of
my letter to Secretary Stineon together
with a copy of the memorandes referred to

concerning British requests for clearance
pending in the Year Department.
Sincerely,

Henerable Energy Nopicino,

the white House.

bj

By Messagge 535

DAY
OX

February 20, 1943

Dear Herrys

I - senting you herewith a copy of
my letter to Secretary Stinson together
with a copy of the memorandum referred to

concerning British requests for clearance
pending in the Year Department.
Sincerely,

Henry
Honorable Sappy Nopkins,
The White House.

by

By Message *

218

CODES

25. 1944.

KENORANDOM

TO:

The Secretary

FROM

Mr. Young

Re: British requests for clearance pending in the
Var Department.

For your information. there is presented below a listing
of requests for clearance filed by the British Purchasing Commission
with the President's Liaison Committee through this office and which
at this writing are held by the Var Department:
Material

Date Filed

Oct. 23. 1940

Nev. 2, 1940
Dec. 8. 1940
.

a

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

a

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.

.
#

Dec. 9. 1940
Dec. 12. 1940

37 IN A.P. Shot (Projectile only)
2-Founder A. P. Shot

P.N.R. No.

21-OP-3 All.

1 All.

MA-73 Pursuit Aircraft
F-39 Pursuit Aircraft

371

Sector Dembers

372

Bomber - Martin 187
Badson Incommission Benbers
Bember - Lookheet-37a

374

370

373

375

Earvard Frainer Aircraft

376

- Pursuit Aircraft
- Pursuit
MA-73
typhoon
Aircraft Gane
Kiss. Spare Barrels,
0om-

379

Bank STA - Aircraft

plote, Newissers. etc.
Fase No. 253 for 20 NO I.E.
Shell (Hispane #aisa)

377

378

414

192-02-6
A-13-2

Dec. 21, 1940
Dec. 31. 1940

40 Mark XVI Leese Barrels

Anti-Tank Carriages for
37 - Gass

358 Alt.

Jan. 3. 1941
Jan. 9. 1941

Before A. A. Mounts
Pratt & Whitney Engines

563

Jan. 22. 1941

Biscoulars 6 E 30
.
.

.

a

.

.

a

501
598
599

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Date Filed

Material

P.L.B. No.

Jan. 23. 1941

beOase
50 Gal. U.S. Naval Cartridge

Jan. 27. 1941

20 in Hispane Suisa Cannos for

Jan. 28, 1941

Fase No. 253 for 20 INN H. B.
Shell (Hispano Suisa)

Feb. 3. 1941

Aircraft Mounting

6 x 30 Prioratio Binoculars with
Graticules

.

1941
.

Feb. 7. 1941
Feb. 10. 1941
.

Graticules
Steel Only. Sinc Powder Boxes
#

.

.

#

4.

.

.

Feb.

6 x 30 Priomatio Binoculars with

648 All.
670
671

Discoulars 6 E 30

#
.

Graticules

648 All.

Nitration foluol

422-R

Steel Gair. Sinc Powder Bozes
.

.

.

.

.

.

648

648 Alt.
598 Alt.
599 All.

6 E 30 Priomatic Disoculars with

Feb. 17. 1941
Feb. 19. 1941

192-0F-6 All.

524 Alt.
598 All.

.

.

610

Spares for P. & V. Engines
Discoulars 6 a 30
6 a 30 Priomatic Dinoculars with
Oraticules

Feb. 11, 1941

602

670 All. Let.
672 Ale. Let.

The above listing includes only those requests which have
been filed by the British Purchasing Conmission. No official
notification of War Department action with respect to these requests
has been received by this office.

Copies of this list are being sent to General Burns, Admiral

Spear, and Mr. Knaisea. Those copies are going forward today.

2/26/41.

220
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

H. D. White

Subject: Changes in U.K. Gold and Dollar Exchange Assets.

On January 8, the British submitted estimates to us that

their "cash" resources gold and official dollar balances--

would be exhausted by the end of January and that a deficit
of $250 million would be incurred by the close of February.

That is to say, the expected drain on their cash assets in
the two months was estimated at $600 million.
There are appended two tables:

1. The first table shows that the United Kingdom had $270
million of gold and official dollar balances on January 31 and
$208 million on February 19. This latter figure excludes receipts of newly mined gold in February and assumes that the
British have not sold gold outside the U. S. since January 31.
(They have sold less than $150,000 to us in February.)
The drain on dollar exchange assets in January was $134
million and the estimated drain from February 1 to 19 was $78

million, or a total of $212 million since December 31, 1940, as
compared to British estimate for the 2-month period of $600 million.
Inasmuch as the British direct investments have not been
touched and their securities sales have been about what they

anticipated, it is evident that the British were in error either
as to their dollar expenditures or their dollar receipts or both.
The major source of error seems to have been in the forecast of
expenditures, which included large sums for new program--sume
which were not spent.
2. The second table is computed as a rough check upon the

drain on assets. It gives estimates, based upon British information, of British dollar expenditures and receipts for the 7-week
period. This shows that if expenditures from January 1 to
February 19, 1941 were at the rate anticipated by the British
for the year 1941, the drain on assets would have been $280
million. This is $70 million higher than the drain on assets
shown in table I. If the British estimates are accepted, the
most plausible explanation of the difference would be in deferment of payments due Canada or in seasonal movements.

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1. Gold and Dollar Exchange Assets of the United Kingdom

(In millions of dollars)
Dec. 31

Jan. 31,

1940

Gold

Official dollar balances

Private dollar balances
Marketable U.S. securities
Direct and miscellaneous
investments
Total

Feb. 19,

1941

1941

292

154

154 *

54

116

54

302

298

299 **

616

562

545

900

900

900

2,164

2,030

1,952

1,697

1,610

Of which there are available, ,according to British 1,811

Decrease Since
Dec. 31. 1940
138
-

3

71

-

212

2. Estimated Dollar Expenditures and Receipts of
British Empire, excluding Canada and Newfound-

land, from January 1 to Feb. 19, 1941

(in millions)
Dollar Expenditures

a. Payments of British Purchasing Missions in U. S.
$180
January, as reported by British
February 1 to 19 (British forecast
100
for Feb. on a pro-rata basis)
b. Deficit with Canada required to be settled in
gold or dollars (British estimate made
early in January; Feb. forecast on a
pro-rata basis)
C. Other dollar payments to U. S. and other countries
(British estimate for 1941 on a pro-rata basis).

$280

50

110

$440

Total

Dollar Receipts

a. Dollar Receipts for commodity exports and service
transactions (British estimate for 1941 on a
pro-rata basis)
b. Newly-mined Australian and South African gold
(British estimate)
Total

90
70

160

Net dollar expenditures,Jan. 1 to Feb. 19. 1941.... out $280 of

* This figure is based on the assumption that the U.K. sold no 19. gold
its monetary stock to countries other than U.S., Feb. 1 to
U.S. sold only $142,000 of gold to U.S., January 31 through to February this country. 18.

small shipment of $203,000 is reported in transit F.R.D. on

** Another This is the sum of British private dollar balances in the N.Y. 29,
February 11 ($276 million) and outside the N.Y. F.R.D. on January
($23 million).

February 27, 1941

Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research

222

February 28, 1941

Dear Nelson:

Your letter dated February 14th
is postmarked at 4 Polles February 27th,
and was received by me on February 28th
at 9:04 B.M.

I have read the contents of your
letter and have brought it to the attention of Mr. Peble, who is in charge of

foreign funds.

Yours sincerely,
Jr.

Henorable Helson A. Rockefeller,
Coordinator of Commercial and Cultural
Relations Between the American Republics,
State Department Building,
Washington, D. C.

Coffay
letter
+ incoming
Mr. this
Peble
3/4/41

223

February 28, 1941

Dear Nelson:

Your letter dated February 14th
is postmarked at 4 P.M., February 27th,
and
wasa.m.
received by me on February 28th
at
9:04

I have read the contents of your
letter and have brought it to the attention of Mr. Pehle, who is in charge of

foreign funds.

Yours sincerely,
Jr.

Honorable Nelson A. Rockefeller,
Coordinator of Commercial and Cultural
Relations Between the American Republics,
State Department Building,
Washington, D. c.

by 7tile sent to Mr. Pehle 3/4/41

for his information

224
COUNCIL OF NATIONAL DEFENSE
COORDINATOR OF COMMERCIAL AND CULTURAL RELATIONS
BETWEEN THE AMERICAN REPUBLICS
STATE DEPARTMENT BUILDING
WASHINGTON D.C.

February 14, 1941.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

We understand that the extension of the Foreign Funds
Control Regulations to include Central and South America

is being considered. In case this is done, I am offering
certain suggestions which I believe may considerably alle-

viate the apprehensions which would be almost certain to

arise.

I feel it would be particularly helpful if the

central banks of the various countries, where they exist,
could be informed of the extension in confidence before
it takes place and be given assurances that would place
them in a more receptive and cooperative spirit.

It also seems important that any publicity or regulations issued at the time of the extension be written so
as to convince our neighboring countries that no confiscations
or unnecessary impairment of their normal activities need be
feared.

Undoubtedly these thoughts have already occurred to

you and your associates, but in view of the importance of
the matter to our relations with our neighbors, I have taken

the liberty of bringing them to your attention.
Sincerely,

NELSON A. ROCKEFELLER,

Coordinator

The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

225
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE February 28, 1941

TO

Mr. White

FROM

Mr. Southard

Subject: Trade Agreements Committee consideration of a flaxseed
concession to Argentina
1. At a meeting on Tuesday, February 25, 1941, the Trade Agreements
Committee again debated this question and finally agreed with only the

Tariff Commission majority dissenting, on a reduction of the tariff from
65 cents to 50 cents per bushel, without quotas. Mr. Wheeler says that

the AAA is prepared to defend this much of the concession (as long as

it is not made responsible for it), on the ground that it will help to

prevent the development of the domestic flaxseed into one more "surplus"
commodity. Any greater concession - even though hedged by a quota the Department of Agriculture is not prepared to support.

2. No one can be sure whether the Argentines will regard a reduction
of the duty to 50 cents as worth very much. Mr. Hawicins doubts that they
will and I personally share his doubts. Argentina is worried about its
future prospects for the export of cereals and meat. In the case of
meat, we are apparently going to be able to offer them an important
concession only on canned meat. In the case of cereals, flaxseed is
apparently the only possibility.

3. I realize that our domestic agricultural policy, the present
abnormal state of foreign trade, and the impossibility of forecasting
post-war trade conditions all combine to diminish one's enthusiasm for
a trade agreement as a major contribution to Argentine-American relations.
But I think it is worth noting that a few days ago the German Ambassador
to Argentina, on his return from Berlin, warned Argentina that her trade
relations with the United States have no future and that post-war Germany
would become the biggest buyer of Argentine goods. He specifically
asserted that Germany would buy Argentine corn, wheat and meat and that
we would not. He therefore urged the Argentines to maintain "an indispensable common respect for the Germans in Argentina who, he said "have
contributed to the creation of industries and commerce and have given

their active life*to Argentina. This is the sort of appeal that makes
sense to the Argentines and its effectiveness is certainly going to be
increased. if it becomes once more apparent that we are prepared to make

only the most niggardly concession on agricultural products.

226
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE February 28, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

While talking with the Secretary today on various problems, I reminded him that
some days ago I had mentioned the visit of the Spanish Ambassador and our plans to

begin the refining in the Assay Office at New York of the remaining Spanish silver
which had been held up by litigation.
I told the Secretary that in this complicated case there was some difference of
opinion among his staff as to how such of a fee should be paid the Treasury's special

counsel, Mr. Stimson, and whether this should be deducted from the balance due the
Spanish Government on account of their silver sales to us. I recommended to the

Secretary that this matter was sufficiently important that it should come up to him,
through the usual departmental channels, in written form, recommending specifically
what amount of legal fees should be paid and also setting forth opinions as to the
proper source of the funds for such payment of legal fees. I thought that there
should be no contact with the Spanish Ambassador until a decision on these points is
reached within the Treasury. I felt this matter deserved especially careful review,

Considering the possibility of unfortunate reactions either if a fee might be paid
to a Cabinet member or to his firm in an amount which might by some be regarded as
on the generous side, or if the Spanish Government might find ground for a new com-

plaint against this Government, alleging that the latter was withholding from it
funds to pay Treasury counsel without a specific agreement providing therefor.
The Secretary agreed with the above suggestions.

TMM.

227
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE February 28, 1941
Secretary Morgenthan
FROM Mr. Cochran

On February 24 Dr. Amos Taylor telephoned me from the Department of Commerce

that Consul Herace H. Smith from Shanghai had completed his tour of duty in the
Department of Commerce, following a similar one in the Department of Agriculture,
and was now available for two weeks in the Treasury Department before returning to

his post.

Before receiving Mr. Smith in the Treasury that afternoon, I talked with
Messrs. Livesey and Bailey (Assistant Chief of the Division of Foreign Service Personnel) in the Department of State and with Mr. White in the Treasury. It was the
understanding that the State Department would like to have Mr. Smith sit with us
here for a couple of weeks, to give us the benefit of such information as he might
have of use on China, and to obtain from us any suggestions which might improve his

reporting work from Shanghai, particularly in view of our contemplated Stabilisation
arrangement with China. Mr. Smith accompanied me to Mr. White's office and has been

given a desk in Mr. White's division. It is suggested that he be presented to
Under Secretary Bell before his fortnight tour of duty expires.

pm.

No. 5416

Tokyo, Japan

228

February 28, 1941
SUBJECT: JAPAN'S GOLD POSITION

CONFIDENTIAL

The Honorable

The Secretary of State
Washington
Sir:-

I have the honor to refer to Department's instruction No. 2098 dated
January 4, 1941, and to the memorandum relative to estimated monetary gold

stocks of Japan, attached thereto.
The Department's attention is invited to this Embassy's despatch No. 5168
dated November 22, 1940, subject: "Japan's Gold Position". The only additional
statistics now available are those covering gold shipments during 1940, which
show that these aggregated 2,239,485.278 troy ounces or 69,648 kilos valued at
Ten 328,953,425.48. Comparative figures for 1939 are 4,819.759.970 ounces,

149,894 kilos, and Yen 660.958.733.81. These data indicate a reduction of 53-1/2%
in volume and 50% in value.

Our estimates of collection for January-October, 1940 may have been somewhat

low as there are rumors afloat to the effect that, although the Government has
not actually enforced the Gold Compulsory Purchase Law promulgated in October,

1940, a nationwide collection of gold articles is now being meticulously carried
out on the basis of the census of gold holdings taken during 1938, and that this
pseudo collection is actually a confiscation of holdings even though it is cloaked

in patriotic garb. However it is not believed that receipts of exportable gold
from this source during 1940 equalled the estimate for 1939. but they may have
reached something like 8,000 kilos.

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By using the figures for total shipments during 1940 of 69,648 kilos and

an estimated 8,000 kilos for collections, the tabulation of stocks at the and
of October, 1940 on page 2 of our despatch No. 5168 will be changed as follows
to show the position at the and of 1945.
Kilos

Balance on hand Jan. 1, 1940

62,895

Estimated production 1940

Estimated gold collections, 1940
Total resources Dec. 31, 1940

77,000
8,000

85,000

147,895

Estimated domestic consumption 1940. 3,600

Exports, 1940

69,648

73,248

Stocks on hand January 1, 1941
Equivalent to:

74,647

$86,000,000
Yon 366,360,000

It is believed that these figures will throw additional light on the
position as viewed by the writer of the memorandum attached to the Department's
instruction No. 2098.
Respectfully yours,

Joseph 0. Grew.

FSW/mp

863.4

Distribution:
Original and 2 copies to Department

chicopy

SECEIAED

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FOR THE PRESS

IMMEDIATE RELEASE

STEEL INDUSTRY REPORT BY GANO DUNN

FEBRUARY 28, 1941

173
1730

At the request of the President, Mr. Gano Dunn has made

an exhaustive survey of the capacity of the steel industry to

determine whether it has adequate facilities to meet the combined
requirements of the United States and British defense programs and
expanded demands for civilian uses. Mr. Dunn is senior consultant
to the Production Division of the Office of Production Management,

but in this instance made nis report direct to the President.

The study wus requested by the President because of con-

flicting estimates of steel requirements during the next two years

and of the consequent ability of the industry to meet all demands

placed upon it. This question is of such importance to the defense

program and the national economy as a whole that the President requested Mr. Dunn, as a qualified authority capable of presenting an

impartial, factual study, to make a special report on the subject.
The investigation on which it was based was carried out

over a period of six weeks. During the course of his inquiry Mr.

Dunn consulted with a great many economists and experts, both in
government and industry, and representatives of organized labor in
the steel industry. He has acknowledged the valuable assistance of
many of these persons.
Mr. Dunn has accepted the estimates of Melvin de Chazeau,

economist attached to the Materials Branch, Office of Production
Management, on probable requirements of steel for civilian uses
during 1941 and 1942. These estimates are based on the assumption

of a national income of 80 billion dollars in 1941, 90 billion in
1942, and a greatly increased damand for steel for civilian uses as
a result of the rise in national income.
Howaver, the Dunn report includes information on actual
capacity for production of steel ingots which has never been known
before and which demonstrates that that capacity is considerably
higher than was generally realized.
The report concludes that if certain measures are under-

taken there will be an excess of ingot-producing capacity over total
requirements of 10,100,000 tons during the present year and
2,100,000 in 1942. These measures that must be taken to attain

capacity production include the olimination of potential bottlenocks in output of pig iron and coke, an even distribution of orders
throughout the industry, and a shortening of the period of time
during which steel-making facilities are normally closed down for
repair work.
Mr. Dunn has arrived at a now measure of steel capacity

which he has called "reliable capacity." The difference between
"reliable capacity" and "reported capacity" is that "reliable

capacity" takes into account certain existing facilities for the

production of steel castings which are not included in reported
statistics of the industry and that the period of time normally consumed for repairing facilities can be reduced at a nominal increase the

in cost to the stool companies. This increased expenditure in
interests of time-saving is justified by the emergency nature of
demands on the industry.

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The report estimated that, on the basis of existing facilities
at the beginning of the year, a shortage of 1,130,314 tons, or 2.3%
in capacity for production of pig iron would result if the industry were
to operate at reliable capacity throughout the year. In 1942 a potential
shortage in the production of pig iron of 544,48 tons is anticipated on
the basis of existing facilities if the industry were to operate at
capacity during that year.
Coke shortage during 1941, on the same basis, is estimated at

5,360,315 tons, or 12% and during 1942 at 2,670,800 tons. Total cost of
removing these deficits by construction of additional facilities would
be $59,545,975 in 1941 and $29,482,964 in 1942. Some of these facilities
are already under construction.
Mr. Dunn has recommanded that this increase in facilities be

undertaken and that If it does not occur normally that it be pro-rated
over the industry by the Director General of the Office of Production
Management. His recommendation along these lines is based on the con-

viction that the normal relationship between pig iron and scrap going into
ingot steel should be maintained and that adequate supplies of coke should
be available both for steel making and for home and commercial heating

purposes. Pending the installation of new facilities, however, any shortages that might arise from those directions could be met (1) by increasing

the ratio of scrap to pig iron going into ingots and (2) by diverting coke
from use in home and commercial heating units to the steel industry. If
such expodients are found necessary it is agreed that they should be made
temporary by the creation of new pig and ooke facilities to maintain normal
balance and practices in the industry and to minimize any disturbance of
civilian consumption of coke.
The Dunn report strongly emphasizes the necessity of even

distribution of orders throughout the industry if maximum overall production is to be reached and maintained. In other words, one producer

must not be allowed to acquire a large backlog of orders for delivery
well into the future while another producer is operating at less-thanmaximum capacity. This might involvo a considerable shifting of orders

and require users of steel to deal with different sources of supply than
they have in the past. Mr. Dunn recommonded that unless such di stri-

bution takes place by voluntary action of the industry that the Director
of the Division of Priorities assume responsibility for the task.

Roliable capacity for stool ingots at the beginning of this
year, with ample allowances for periodic shut-down for repai rs, is reported

in the Dunn study as 87,576,099 tons por year. This is roughly

3,500,000 tons higher than previously supposed. Completion of additional to

facilities, now under way, will raise reliable annual capacity

91,124,718 tons by the end of the year. It should be clearly operations understood

that those figures on capacity represent the maximum rate of Dunn has
that could be continued over an extended period of time. Mr.

concluded that the industry could, under proper condi tions, operate inde- which

finitely at a rate of slightly more than 102 of reported capacity,

herotofore has been the normal measure of steel capacity.

Ingot production in January was at the highest point the in the Dunn
of the country,amounting to 6,943,084 tons. However, figure represents

history makes the interesting observation that while this capacity".
97.1% report of "reported capacity' it is only 94.5% of "reliable and of this

When with roliable capacity that will exist at that the capacity.
year, compared January production would represent only 91% of

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-3Direct defense requirements for steel in 1941 are

estimated in the Dunn report at 5,100,000 tons. There is not
much controversy over this figure. Exports of steel, mostly
to England and Canada, are placed at 13,400,000 tons. Civilian

requirements, based on a national income of eighty billion dollars, are estimated at €1,000,000 tons, making a total of
77,500,000 tons or 10,100,000 less than the reliable capacity

of the industry to produce ingots. Naturally, if the national
income is less than eighty billion dollars, civilian require-

ments will be less and the safety margin correspondingly in-

creased. For instance, if the national income in 1941 reaches
only seventy-seven billion dollars, surplus capacity is estimated at 14,100,000 tons.

Surplus capacity in 1942, based on a national income

of ninety billion dollars, is estimated at 2,100,000 tons.
Again, if the national income in 1942 reaches but 87 billion
dollars, surplus capacity would be 6,100,000 tons.

While exact figures in every category cannot be col-

lected, the Dunn report finds that capacity for rolled and other
steel products is generally well in excess of ingot capacity,
ranging from 50% in certain sectors to an average of 15% The

conclusion is that if orders are properly distributed, total

requirements for fabricated products can be net without unusual

delay. This should not be taken to mean that at no time during
the course of the defense program will any user of any steel

product face difficulty in obtaining prompt deliveries. During

a period of tremendous industrial expansion, with requirements
for specific products undergoing frequent changes, the development of temporary choke points in certain spots from time to
time appears to be inevitable.

However, the statistics unearthed by Mr. Dunn's
study and the conclusions drawn from them, present an encourag-

ing picture to the directors of this nation's defense program,

to good neighbor nations, and to users of steel and steel products

for civilian consumption.

In view of the importance of steel capacity and the

necessity of having an up-to-date picture of the situation,

the President has asked Mr. Dunn to make this survey and report

the starting point of a continuing study. Mr. Dunn has accepted
assignment and will revise his statistics and conclusions find-

periodically, this reporting directly to the President on his
ings.

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WAR DEPARTMENT
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF
WASHINGTON

February 28, 1941.

MEMORANDUM FOR SECRETARY MORGENTHAU:

Re: Malcolm Wheeler-Nicholson.

Malcolm Wheeler-Nicholson is a former officer of Cavalry,
Regular Army. He has had some success as a short story writer,

and in addition to his recent article in Harper's criticizing the

Army, he has written a book, "Battleshield of the Republic", along
the same line, which has recently been published. Some time ago
he submitted a rather lengthy document to the President in criticism
of Army organization, administration and personnel system.

His military record is highly discreditable. In 1920 he
was placed provisionally in Class B (below minimum standard required
for commission in the Army), but was restored to Class A by order

of the President. In 1922 he was again placed provisionally in
Class B, and in the same year he was tried by general court-martial
and found guilty of disorderly and discreditable conduct. He was
finally placed in Class B on September 25, 1922, and the action of
the board was approved by the President.

He was wholly discharged from the service on December 26,

1922, it having been determined that his inefficiency was due to his
own neglect and misconduct.

The records in The Adjutant General's Department indicate

that his difficulties were the result of drinking, bad debts and
false official statements.

He is a good writer and has the faculty of dramatizing dry
facts. His material is readable and some of his criticisms have been
justified, although the weaknesses he emphasizes are thoroughly
appreciated by the War Department.

W. B. S.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Outness
Miss

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

For

DATE February 28, 1941
TO

Secretary Morgenthan

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£53,000
Purchased from commercial concerns & 8,000

Open market sterling opened at 4.03-1/2 and closed at 4.03-3/4. Transactions
of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£2,000
Purchased from commercial concerns £8,000

In New York the closing rates for the foreign currencies listed below were

as follows:

Canadian dollar
Swiss franc (commercial)
Swedish krona
Reichanark

Lira

Brasilian milreis (fres)
Mexican peso
Ouban peso

14-1/4% discount
.2323
.2385
.4005
.0505
.0505
.2066

6-27/32% discount

On February 26th the Ministry of Finance in Argentina announced that pending
the organisation of corporations to export new commodities, the dollar exchange
resulting from such exports to be used to pay for imports into Argentina (Decree of
November 29. 1940). all dollar exchange derived from exports previously dealt in
in the free market must be surrendered to the Argentine Control at 4.2182 pesos
to the dollar ($.2370). The announcement also stated that all such dollar exchange
surrendered would be autioned to the highest bidders in order to pay for imports
other than those for which official exchange is provided. These new regulations
tend to restrict the scope of the free market which will now be reduced to financial

transactions, capital repayments and similar operations. As a reflection of the
reduced utility of the free market the free peso declined from .2365 at yesterday's

opening to .2345 at today's close.

In Shanghai, the U. S. equivalent of the yuan was 5-5/84. up 1/32#. Sterling
was 3.93-1/2, up 2-1/2 In Hong Kong, both the H.K. dollar and sterling were unchanged in terms of United States currency at 24-5/84 and 3.94, respectively.

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We sold the following amounts of gold to be added to the earmarked accounts
of the banks indicated:
$ 7,500,000 to the Bank of Java
2,550,000 to the National Bank of Yugoslavia
$10,000,000 Total

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported that the Bank of Mexico shipped

to it $51,000 in gold, for sale to the Assay Office.

In London the price of spot silver was off 1/16d at 23-3/88 and forward was
unchanged at 23-5/16a. The U.S. equivalents of these prices are 42.444 and 42.33#.

respectively.

Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at
34-3/44. The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35%
There were no purchases of silver under the Silver Purchase Act.
During the month of February our purchases of silver were considerably reduced
from the total of 9,149,600 ounces during January. During the current month we
purchased 3,661,871 ounces, the sources of which were as follows:
Type of Silver

Ounces

New Production

1. From various countries

2,556,871
500,000

2. From Canada under agreement

605,000

Inventory
Total

3,661,871

BMR
CONFIDENTIAL

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February 28, 1941

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:

Attached is a summary report of the projects
which have been worked on in the Division of Tax
Research during February, 1941.

RB
Attachment

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Monthly Report on Projects in the
Division of Tax Research
February, 1941

I. New projects
1. Tax revision, 1941
A series of brief memoranda concerning certain

possible revisions of the individual surtax,
estate and gift taxes, liquor, wine and beer
taxes, soft drinks tax, tax on passenger
automobiles and motorcycles, check tax, admissions

tax and stock transfer taxes were completed.
(Mr. Ecker-Racz and staff)*

2. Tax-exempt securities
(a) A brief statement was prepared for the use
of Mr. Doughton on H.R. 2959 relating to

tax-exempt securities. (Mr. Ecker-Racz)
(b) A memorandum was prepared relating to tax-

exempt securities of Great Britain and
Canada indicating the issues, tax status,
and amounts outstanding. A memorandum

containing similar data for other countries
is in process. (Mr. Ecker-Raoz and
Mr. Mannen)
#

Persons listed as working on the different projects do
not include those who acted largely or exclusively in

a consulting or reviewing capacity. In general, the
person, if any, actively in charge of the project is

listed first.

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-2(a) A table showing the treatment of interest
from governmental obligations under State

income taxes is in process. (Miss Wells)
(d) A memorandum relating to the taxation of
Federal securities under State and local
intangible property taxes was prepared.
(Mr. Ecker-Racz)

(e) A digest of legislative proposals pertaining
to the elimination of tax-exemption of
government securities is in process.
(Mr. Mannen)

3. Prepayment of income taxes
A memorandum is in process analyzing the problems

involved in a system of prepayment of income

taxes and outlining possible plans for prepayment.
(Mr. Atlas)
4. Taxation of banks and insurance companies
A memorandum analyzing statistical information

relating to the profits and income tax payments
of banks has been prepared. A similar memorandum on insurance companies is in process.

(Mr. Mills)
5. Taxation and the cost of national defense program
A memorandum on the effect of State and local

taxes on the cost of the national defense program
was prepared. (Mr. Ecker-Racz)

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6. Social security
An analysis of the Social Security Board's

legislative program for 1941 is in preparation.
(Mr. Ecker-Racz)

7. Income tax
(a) Examples comparing present and proposed
individual income taxes on net incomes of

selected sizes under certain proposed
surtax rate schedules were prepared.
(Mr. Zorach)

(b) An analysis of the personal exemption and
credit for dependents based on data supplied
by the Income Tax Study 18 in process.
(Mr. Zorach)

8. Excess profits tax
An analysis of the relief provisions of the
excess profits tax law is in process. Examples
were prepared of (1) types of situations
affected by the relief provisions and (2)
companies in the munitions business which,

because their last fiscal year ended before
December 31, 1939, were not subject to the excess

profits tax for 1940. (Mr. Campbell)

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9. Excise taxes
A comparison of the British and United States
excise taxes on selected commodities showing

British rates, Federal rates and highest and
average State rates W8.8 prepared. (Mr. Atlas)
10. Tax suggestions
A summary of tax suggestions received in the
Division from October 1, 1940 to February 20,

1941 were classified into those worthy of
study or adoption and those which are apparently

not useful. (Mr. Zorach and Mr. Mills)
11. Intergovernmental fiscal relations
Memoranda have been prepared showing (a) what

the Division of Tax Research has done in the

field of Federal, State and local fiscal
relations, and (b) a possible program for
further research on this subject. (Mr. EckerRacz)

II. Continuing projects
1. Income tax collected at source
A memorandum analyzing the problems involved

in the collection of the individual income
tax at source is in process. (Mr. Atlas)

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2. Excess profits tax
An analysis of special treatment afforded

financial, personal service and public
utility companies, the professions and
agriculture under the World War and present

excess profits taxes of the United States,
Great Britain and Canada, is in preparation.
(Mr. Mills)

3. Federal excise taxes
A memorandum analyzing possible additional

sources of exoise tax revenue is in process.
(Mr. Campbell)

4. Federal sales taxes
A memorandum on the value added and other

possible forms of Federal sales taxes 18 in

preparation. (Mr. Farioletti and Mr. Copeland)
5. Foreign taxes
(a) Memoranda on the latest changes in
Canadian and Australian taxes are in
preparation. (Mr. Atlas and Miss Hughes)

(b) In collaboration with the Division of
Monetary Research, a study of the Haitian

fiscal system is in process. (Miss Wells)

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-66. Amount of surtax net income by brackets
A table showing for 1938 the amount of surtax
net income falling within each surtax bracket

of the surtax rate schedule is in process.
(Miss Hughes)

7. Treasury Bulletin
An article for possible publication in the
Treasury Bulletin is in process comparing taxpayers' reported state of residence in 1936

with the states in which they filed their
income tax returns. (Miss Coyle and Mr. Zorach)

8. Undistributed profits and income taxation
Reports on the following subjects have not
been actively prosecuted during the month:

(1) Analysis in the light of issues raised
by the undistributed profits tax of the
statistics made available from income
tax returns and other sources.
(Mr. Atlas and Mr. Copeland)

(2) Analysis of the proposal to allow corporations with five or less shareholders
to be treated for tax purposes as

partnerships. (Mr. Mills)

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III. Routine Assignments
1. Technical review of fortheoming Treasury
publications

(a) The work of the Philadelphia project
analyzing income, excess profits and

estate tax returns 18 in final stages
of completion. Among the portions of
the study reviewed were (1) volume 3
of the Income Tax Study, 1936, (2)

procedures for the analysis of dividends
and (3) table outlines for the excess

profits tax study. (Miss Coyle)
(b) Four press releases for the complete

report "Statistics of Income for 1938,
Part 2,* were reviewed. (Miss Hughes)
2. Digests and comments on other studies
The following studies are pending analysis:
(a) A memorandum from the Price Stabilization
Division of the Advisory Commission of
the Council of National Defense entitled

"The Effect of the Tax Structure on

Saving and Consumption. (Mr. Farioletti)

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-8(b) The report "Concentration and
Composition of Individual Incomes,
1918-1937* prepared by the Temporary

National Economic Committee. (Miss Coyle)

(e) The report "Million Dollar Incomes"
by L. H. Parker. (Miss Coyle)
(d) The report "Study of the Delaware State
Income Tax Yields" by Walter C. Wilson.
(Miss Coyle)

(e) The article "British War Taxes and
Corporate Earnings* in the National City
Bank Bulletin for December, 1940.
(Mr. Copeland)

3. Statistics
(a) In connection with the supervision of
the statistical work of the Bureau of
Internal Revenue, various proposals for
statistical compilations were examined
including suggested tabulations from the
corporation income and excess profits

tax returns. (Mr. Blough, Mr. Shere
and Miss Coyle)

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-9(b) Administrative reports and statistics
of the Bureau of Internal Revenue are
graphed and commented upon for Mr.

Sullivan's information. (Mr. Campbell)

(a) Data relating to different taxes,
digests of tax items, and congressional

activity on tax items of interest to
the Division are currently prepared.
(Staff members)

4. Correspondence
The Division handled correspondence per-

taining to tax matters. (Staff members)

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

Personal and Secret

February 28th, 1941.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy

of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr.Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Helifax

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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Telegram received from London

dated February 26th.
Matel.

At 21/85 "BAMOOR" escorting eastern

coast convoy off Norfolk coast was torpedoed and
sunk by E-boat and British Minor (CA) 1100 tons in
the same convoy was also torpedoed and at 2.30/26.

"Dainty" sunk by aircraft off Tobruk
p.m. 24th 20 casualties.
8.
In Mediterranean, Kasteloritzo Island
2.

occupied dawn 85th. Enemy air activity caused withdrawal
of Ladybird from harbour and reported permanent garrison

might have to be landed by night.
4.

At (words undecypherable) on February 25th

coastal aircraft unsuccessfully attacked four merchant
vessels and escort vessels off Sogne Fiord also without
seeing results (words omitted) bombed two R-boats off
Stadlandet and attacked convoy of merchant vessels off
Ostend but scored no hits.
5.

Night of 25/26th small force of aircraft

boabed dooks at Boulogne.
6.

Three merchant vessels bombed or torycaood

western approach last few days have arrived safely in
harbour.
7.

R.A.F. night of 24th/25th

Attack on Brest. on account of searchlights
and flares detailed results could not be observed but
over 50 bombers dropped bombs in target area. The

aircraft reported missing has returned safely.
8./

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Daylight 85th One Blenheim attacked

e.

submarine assembly and repair station at Flushing

bursts being observed on target. In afternoon six
medium bumbers accorted by three aquadrone of fighters

with a further five aquadrons in support unsuccessfully
bombed enemy shipping off Dunkirk. In course of this
operation our fighters destroyed 3 ME 109's and a

fourth probable. One of our fighters is missing.
9.

Night of 25th/26th
114 bombers despatched. Main targets

Dusseldorf industrial area 80 aerodromes 17 and

Boulogne 8. One aircraft is missing.
10.
Lybia. Night of 24th/25th
Nine Wellingtone attacked Tripoli, hits
being made on Customs wharf and shipping. Numerous

fires and a violent explosion were caused. One

aircraft is missing.
11.

German Air Force. Daylight 25th Enemy

activity mainly confined to sea reconnaissances and

patrole.
12.

Night of 25th/26th
About 100 aircraft operated, activity being

widespread over east Anglie and Lincolnshire. One enemy

aircraft was shot down by a night fighter.
Aircraft casualties in operations over and
13.

from British Ieles. German Fighters - three destroyed,
one probable, Bombers - one destroyed, totals four

destroyed, one probable. British One fighter (bomber
reported missing yesterday has returned safely).
Home Security Night of 25th/26th. Damage
14.
done/

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done negligible except at Hull area where many
fires were started and at Harwich where gas
and water mains were damaged. Very few casualties.

All fires have been extinguished.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON.

Personal and
Secret

28th February, 1941

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information copies of the latest
reports received from London on the military
situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Halifax
The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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REPORT RECEIVED PROM LOWDON

DATED FEBRUARY BATE. 1941

NAVAL

MANISTER ocean boarding vessel torpedoed 500

miles west of Butt of Lewis a.m./23rd.
Three M/S trawlers whilet sweeping off Cardiff
have been damaged by mine explosions - one of these only
slightly damaged.
2.

BUSE while sweeping at Meres Tobruk was sunk by

coast ......
3.

No further news received of pocket battleship sighted

by GLASCOW search continues.
4.

One of the shipe bombed on the 22nd by Fokke-mulf

a/a has been found and taken in tow.
5.

Sues Canal still closed and one mine reported detonated.

6.

Mine destroying home waters continues satisfactorily.
Mines being detonated regularly off minerous ports.

7.

Four enemy A/C bombed Benghasi a.m./25rd. Six bombs

on the water front and some near; little damage - no
casualties.
8.

SHROPSHIRE bombarded Modun hear Brava a.m. sand con-

siderable damage caused.
9.

HIPPER class cruiser still at Breat 23rd AA/O attacked

this ship night of the 23rd/24th, frustrated by weather.
10.

Military. Itelian someliland
TO 8 p.m. 22nd. Our forces have taken Jumbo and

captured 22 Italian officers 85 other ranks and much material
including arms and amminition. A pontoon bridge has been
completed at Yonte.

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11. Royal Air Force Night of 33rd/94th.
Seventy-one aircraft were sent to docks at Calais,
Boulogne and Den Holder. Numerous fires were started
at Boulogne but elsewhere results were unobserved.

Two aircraft are missing.

12. Britron. on 31st South African Hurricanes destroyed six aircraft and six hangare at Massawa aerodreme. one Hurricane was lost.
13. Greece on 82nd Blenheime shot down three enemy

aiscraft.
14. German Air Force During daylight 23rd enemy aircraft
carried out continuous patrols of the Straite and made
one sweep over East Kent Coast.

15. Night of 23rd/24th. A small scale bombing attack
was made on the Number area and there was elight activity
over Eastern and South lastern England and the London area.

16. Aircraft casualtics in operations over and from
the British Isles. Germans Nil British - two bombers
missing.

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TELEGRAN RECEIVED FROM LONDON

DATED FEBRUARY 25th.1941
NAVAL

MANISTRE, having been torpedoed February

24th for the second time presumed sunk. No trace

of her or survivors found yet.
2.

Terror sank off Derna a.m. Feb. 24th, having

been near missed in two bombing attacks February

22nd and February 23rd. No casualties. Enemy
does not know of this loss.
3.

Situation Bengazi being made difficult for

ships owing to enemy air activity being little
hampered by anti-sireraft and fighters, however
5 or 6 enemy aircraft have been shot down include
ing one torpedo aircraft by Peony's anti-sircraft
gun.
4.

Three ships reported torpedoed in outward

convey a.m. February 24th in N.W. approaches.

Salvage of all three is possible.
5.

Eastbound convey in Streits of Dever was

shelled before dawn February 24th by enemy shore

batteries. No damage reported.
6.

A.M. Feb. 19th. 9 aircraft attacked anti-

sigeraft cruiser Voyager and some Corvettes off
Bengasi. No damage caused though there were near
misses.
7.

R.A.F. Night of Feb.24th/25th. 63 heavy

and 7 medium bombers attacked Hipper class cruiser

at Breat. All returned safely, except one heavy
bomber.
8.

Preliminary report of reconnaissance s.m.

February 25th, shows ship still there but photo

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photographs not good enough to show if damage caused.
9.

ETHIOPIA.

On February 23rd, 7 South African Air Force
Hurricanes machine-gunned Makele aerodrome and des.

troyed 8 enemy aircraft on the ground and one in the
air. One Hurricane is missing.
10.

Our medium bombers also considerably damaged

aerodrome buildings at Addis Ababa.
11.

GERMAN AIR FORCE.

Yesterday limited also entirely to patrols
in Straits and night of February 24/25, scattered
reids by 28 aircraft in East Anglis and mining by
19 aircraft off Liverpool.
18. Aircraft casualties in operations over and
from British Isles.
Germens, nil. British, 1
bomber missing.

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No. 327

M.I.D., W.D.
February 28, 1941
12:00 M

SITUATION REPORT

I.

Western Theatre of War.

Air: German. The High Command claimed long range
bombers had destroyed 13 ships and damaged 6 others.

British. Bad weather left both British and
German planes grounded during the night.
II.

Greek Theatre of War.
Ground: No change.

Air: Nothing to report.
III. Mediterranean and African Theatres of War.
Air: The Italian High Command reported both Italian
and German planes bombed and machine gunned British armored forces

in North Africa.

Ground: Libya. A reconnaissance unit of armored
fighting vehicles, believed to be German, was encountered west
of El Agheila and driven back by British mechanized forces.

Italian Somaliland. Italian forces are
reported demoralized. Many prisoners and much war materiel have
been captured.

Note: This military situation report is issued by the Military Intelligence Division, General Staff. In view of the occasional inclusion of political information and of opinion it is classified as

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