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Book 360

Bank of America
November 21 - December 20, 1938

Bank of America
Book

Page

Upham's proposed letter to directors of Bank of America

to be followed by detailed letter of warning -

11/21/38

360

a) Second draft discussed by Treasury banking
group - 11/22/38

b) Letter as sent - 11/23/38

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19

160.161.201.
212,225,307,
368

c) Crowley's plan of action - 12/7/38

1) Duffield comments on
d) Jones' conclusions - 12/13/38
e) Giannini's acceptance of program - 12/15/38

Anglo-California National Bank: Board of Directors
second report on progress made in correction of items
criticised by Comptroller of Currency - 11/21/38
Securities and Exchange Commission group confers with
Treasury - 11/23/38

324
330
359

392

4

23

a) Question of legality of showing Comptroller's

records to Securities and Exchange Commission

discussed

1) Oliphant opinion
Transamerica Corporation: Proceedings before Securities

112

and Exchange Commission to determine whether the

registration of capital stock, $2 par value, should
be suspended or withdrawn - 11/22/38
a) Discussion by Treasury group

58

39

b) Discussion by representatives of Treasury,
Comptroller of Currency, Securities and Exchange
Commission, Federal Reserve Board, Reconstruction

Finance Corporation, and Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation - 11/23/38

c) Opinion on right of Treasury to permit Securities

79,109

and Exchange Commission to use records.

112,136,137

Exchange Commission order

229

d) Eccles repeats to Douglas his (Eccles')
conversation with FDR concerning Securities and
Anglo-California National Bank: "Cut-back" discussion by
Comptroller's staff (Duffield memorandum) - 11/28/38

210

"Washington Banking Trends and Backgrounds": Resume' of

steps taken in Giannini case protested by Giannini -

11/30/38

233,297

Pacific Coast Mortgage Company: Conference on ownership

of stock; present: Duffield, Sedlacek, Irey, and
Eaton (Intelligence Unit) - 12/1/38
Greenbaum reports on California reaction to Giannini

probe - 12/2/38
a) Greenbaum reports on changed attitude of Giannini,
as shown by statement to appear soon in Bank of
America newspaper - 12/12/38

Anglo-California National Bank: Rehabilitation of bank
discussed by Treasury group - 12/2/38
a) Reconstruction Finance Corporation to be asked to
subscribe to new issue of stock: Discussion by
Treasury group and copy of letter as sent to
Reconstruction Finance Corporation - 12/6/38
a) Jones' reply

234,242
236

353

239,303

308,322,332,
341,343
340

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Book Page
California, State of: Superintendent of Banks - resume'
of background and duties (Oliphant memorandum) 12/7/38

360

327

Reconstruction Finance Corporation offer to Giannini to
purchase any stock not subscribed for by stockholders
or to lend on such stock if Bank of America determines
to increase capital stock between now and June 30;
Secretary of Treasury must make request of RFC with

approval of President - 12/15/38

396

Treasury and Securities and Exchange Commission

representatives report to HMJr on outcome of
conferences with Mario Giannini - 12/17/38
Upham resume' of case expressing dissatisfaction with

results to date - 12/19/38

397,432,435
437

Hane
November 21, 1938.

Memorandum to: The Secretary
From:

Mr. Upham

This is the letter I propose for directors
of Bank of America -- to be followed later by a de-

tailed letter of warning.
Upm.

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November
18th
1938

This office has previously acknowledged your letter
of October 11, 1938. I wish here to reaffirm our position
with respect to the major points which you discuss in that
letter. In order that the problems involved may be perfectly clear, I wish to outline once more the major aspects of
your bank which constitute a danger to the public interest.
These aspects center about the two facts that so small

a portion of the total funds of the bank is capital funds and
that so large a proportion of the total funds is invested in
fixed or hazardous assets. Either one of these two facts by
itself would be cause for alarm, but existing simultaneously
in the same institution, they assume much more serious proportions. Their significance with respect to the public interest is still further enhanced when they exist in such a gigantic institution having such far-flung operations as the Bank

of America, National Trust and Savings Association.

The bank has capital funds equal to about 6.4 percent

of its total funds. This compares with an estimated 10.9 percent for the banks of the country as a whole. It means that
if the assets were to depreciate 6.4 percent in value, or if
6.4
of insolvent.
the assets were to prove to be worthless, the
bankpercent
would be
On the other hand, 14.2 percent of the funds of the
bank are invested in fixed and hazardous assets. When this
percentage is compared with 6.4 percent for the capital, the
seriousness of the situation becomes inescapable. Some of the
fixed
assets and all of the hazardous assets have no place in
a good bank.

It is not the function of this office to dictate or

even to suggest the specific practices which should be followed
by the bank. However, it may be useful for you to have our
opinion concerning broad principles which are involved. When
a bank is in such a precarious position, every possible step
must be taken to improve that position. But in the meantime

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-2its operations must be carried on with particular circumspection since it cannot safely bear new risks such as can be
assumed by a bank which is in a sound condition.

The main long-run concern of the directors of this
bank must be to increase the capital until it bears a reasonable relation to the total funds of the bank and to dispose
of the hazardous assets until they are reduced to nominal
proportions.

If capital funds cannot be immediately increased adequately from the sale of stock, the earnings of the bank must
be used to build up the capital as rapidly as possible. And
even if capital can be raised through the sale of preferred
stock, earnings must be used to retire that stock.
On the other hand, hazardous assets must be disposed of

as rapidly as possible. Assets must not be held with a view
to profiting from a problematical rise in value. An asset which
could not legitimately be bought cannot legitimately be held.
If there are probable losses in the assets of the bank, those
losses should be realized now. Orderly liquidation of the
hazardous assets of this bank is absolutely necessary.
The affairs of this bank must be disentangled from those

of Transamerica Corporation and other corporations dominated
by the same management. The present manipulated situation con-

stitutes a violation of the spirit and letter of banking law

which can no longer be tolerated.

Finally, if the Board of Directors really wishes to reform the bank and make it a credit to the State of California
and the nation, it will make a serious attempt to ascertain
the true condition of the bank. Nothing is to be gained by
anyone concerned refusing to face the true conditions. I hope
that your committee which is studying the situation will be
but the beginning of a new era in the history of the bank in
which the board will really perform the function of determining
and directing the operating policies of the bank. This office
will be most happy to confer and cooperate with your committee
at any time in determining upon sound future policies.

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The Anglo California National Bank
of San Francisco

November 21, 1938

Comptroller of the Currency
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:

Your attention is respectfully directed to a commun-

ication dated the 9th inst., signed by a majority of the Directors

of The Anglo California National Bank of San Francisco, acknowledg-

ing receipt of your office letter of the 3rd ult., informing you of

progress made in the correction of criticized items, and advising
you of certain of our future plans.

Many of the matters complained of in your letter of
the 3rd ult. are so complicated and methods of correcting them are
so difficult to arrive at, that our time has been largely consumed

in attempting to formulate a forward program possible of accomplishment and at the same time in accordance with departmental requirements. Since the 9th inst., however, we have made additional prog-

ress and feel that we are now in a position to outline in a more
definite way steps we propose to take in cooperation with your office
and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to place the affairs of
this institution in a condition to merit the approval of the various
supervising authorities.
From our analysis of the report of examination under
consideration and the letter of the Comptroller under date of October
3rd, it seemed apparent to us that one of the most important requirements necessary was the matter of providing the Bank with additional
capital not only to correct conditions which presented themselves
from the Examiner's classifications but to provide as well for the
establishment of reserves against certain accounts of loans, bonds,
other real estate and other asset items, concerning which question
has been raised by the Examiner as to collectability within a reasonable time either in whole or in part.

Acting under the authority of a resolution of the
Board of Directors of this Bank under date of October 6, 1938, a
committee of five of the Directors made an application to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation for the purchase by it of $17,000,000
of preferred stock of this Bank, a copy of which formal application
for this purchase is recited immediately below for the information
of your office.

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Comptroller of the Currency - 2
"October 13, 1938
Mr. Sam Husbands

Chief, Examining Division
Reconstruction Finance Corporation
San Francisco, California
Dear Mr. Husbands:

Application is hereby made to the Reconstruction
Finance Corporation for the purchase by it of $17,000,000 of
preferred stock of The Anglo California National Bank of San

Francisco.

Two million five hundred thousand dollars will be
used to retire the preferred stock now held by the September
Company; $2,500,000.00 to retire the preferred stock now held
by the Standard 011 Company of California; and $12,000,000.00
to be received by the Bank.

The total amount of this stock is to have a par
value of $5,000,000.00, to be retirable at $17,000,000.00.
The rate of dividend, schedule of retirement and
other conditions governing the issuance of this stock are to
be agreed upon at a later date.
The undersigned are a committee duly authorized

by the Board of Directors of The Anglo California National Bank
to make this application.

Respectfully submitted,
(Signed) Mortimer Fleishhacker
P. E. Hoover
Samuel Kahn

Wm. B. Reis
W. O. Wayman .

Following the filing of the above mentioned application,

Mr. Samuel Husbands, Chief Examiner of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, and his associates were immediately contacted and requested to

make an examination of all of the criticized assets listed in the last
report of examination made of this Bank in conjunction with the local

National Bank Examiner.

Following the completion of this examination, it was concluded that provisions should be made for the elimination of the assets
listed below either by charge off or the setting aside of reserves that
are to be netted to said assets in future statements of condition.

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CALIFORNIA NATIONAL BANK

Comptroller of the Currency - 3
LOANS AND DISCOUNTS

Reserve

Loss

Affiliates

1,216,500.00

542,801.49

Other Commercial Loans

2,447,636.88
2,774,416.92

1,835,131.84
1,369,053.48
20,402.06
1,150,921.93
4,918,310.80

Loans to Officers, Directors and
their corporations (as grouped
by the Examiner in his report)
Real Estate Loans

40,025.60

Stocks, bonds, claims, etc.

1,895,213.74
8,373,793.14

RECAPITULATION

Reserves

Losses

Total

Loans

6,478,579.40

3,767,388.87

10,245,968.27

Stocks, bonds, claims
etc.
Total

1.895.213.74
8,373,793.14

1.150.921.93

3,046,135.67
13,292,103.94

4,918,310.80

The individual items comprising the foregoing totals were
agreed upon by representatives of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation
and the National Bank Examiner at the time of his recent review, details
of which are in his possession.

In order to reserve, therefore, against the foregoing assets
and insure a sound capital structure for the Bank, it was considered desirable to increase the present capital by the addition of $12,000,000 of
preferred stock. In this connection you will observe that our application
to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation was for a total purchase by it
of $17,000,000 of preferred stock, of which $5,000,000 will be used to
retire the Bank's present preferred stock and the balance would be new
capital.

With further respect to criticized assets or portions of
assets commented upon especially by your Examiner and representatives of of

the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, there appear to be some items
loans, both commercial and real estate, and certain items of bonds and
securities aggregating $1,250,470.45 not provided for in reserve alloca-

tions heretofore set forth. It seemed to be the opinion of your Examiner,
and we concur therein, that these particular items appear to be adequate-

ly secured, although the character of the security might be construed this as

being of a "slow" nature. In connection with the items comprising
total, therefore, it is proposed to allocate such future reserves as may
be necessary from the recoveries realized on the assets for which reserves
have been provided prior to the use of any such recoveries for preferred

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Comptroller of the Currency - 4

stock retirement purposes. It is our understanding, however, that no
reserves will be required upon the unpaid balance of any of the aforementioned
assets that have been placed in acceptable condition in the
interim.
All of the above conditions as to requirements for charge
offs and reserve allocations are among those discussed with the representatives of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and we understand have
met with their tentative approval.

In order, therefore, to provide means for the removal of
the items regarded by the Examiner as "loss" and to set aside sufficient
reserves for certain other asset items, it is proposed to make the par
value of the preferred stock issue $5,000,000, the amount of our present
preferred stock issue, but to sell it for $17,000,000, thereby making
$12,000,000 available for the above mentioned purposes. This would make
the new capital structure of the Bank as follows:

Preferred stock (par 20, liquidating
and retirable value 68)

$5,000,000.00
10,400,000.00
4,000,000.00
1,476,451.06

Common stock (par value)

Surplus ($350,000 from U.P.)

Undivided profits

Reserves (judgment)

New Capital Structure

750,000.00

$21,626,451.06

We strongly hope that this method will be approved by your

office as we feel it distinctly for the best interests of the Bank that

our present capital position should not be changed in material respects.

Your criticism and that of the Examiner relative to borrowings of certain companies affiliated with the Bank, have been given

attention. As an initial step looking toward the elimination of these

items, we propose a plan to liquidate the following enumerated so-called
affiliated
companies by formal foreclosure of the supporting collateral
in
each instance:
Consolidated Securities Co.
Amalgamated Properties Co.
The Anglo Corporation

Jerome Garage Co.

Anglo California Company
Anglo Investment Company

Angla California Securities Co.

Islais Company, Ltd.

Sep Rafael Development Company

In addition to the foregoing affiliates, it is now proposed

that a plan be presented to the shareholders of the Anglo National Corpor-

ation looking toward partial distribution of its assets and the winding

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Comptroller of the Currency - 5

up of its affairs over a period of time. While many of the shareholders

of this company are also shareholders of the Bank, the shareholders are
by no means identical. The company's loan to the Bank has now been
reduced to $300,000 and its assets consist largely of stocks of controlled banks, minority holdings in other banks, listed and unlisted securities, which assets have been appraised by the Examiner as follows:
Market value

Estimated value of other assets

3,572,000.00
2,228,000.00
5,800,000.00

As an essential part of the plan we are proposing with
respect to affiliated companies, it will be necessary that the Anglo
National Corporation acquire the minority holdings in the six banks listedthis
below,
and thereafter make application to convert them into branches
of
Bank.
Holdings of Anglo
National Corporation
298 shares
896
450

1,374
874

1,560

Examiner's

Bank

First National Bank, Fairfield

Bank of Suisun, N. A.
First National Bank, Weed
Winters National Bank
First National Bank, Yreke
Mechanics & Merchants National
Bank of Vallejo

Valuation

Deposits

59,600.00
268,000.00
83,250.00
58,000.00
36,000.00

629,000.00
1,395,000.00
764,000.00
269,000.00

80,000.00
$584,850.00

1,725,000.00

660,000.00

5,452,000.00

As part of this general plan, therefore, we expect to
authorize our officers to make formal application for these branch permits
and we trust that these applications will receive your favorable consideration. Following the completion of this branching program, the Anglo
National Corporation will receive somewhat in excess of $500,000 in cash,

represented by initial liquidating dividends in addition to any of the

assets of the institutions mentioned which might be classified as inadmiss-

ible for acceptance by this Bank. It will be seen, therefore, that this

operation will provide sufficient cash means for the corporation to liquidate its borrowed money liability to this Bank now standing at $300,000,

incidentally, its only liability.

On completion of formal foreclosure of collateral securing
loans to affiliated companies and others, the Bank will become the owner
of 17,286 shares of the Common capital stock of the Anglo California

National Bank and 66,746 shares of the Class A stock of the Anglo National
Corporation.

As a means, therefore, of eliminating these holdings of
bank stock and Corporation A stock, we propose to offer for sale the above
stocks to the affiliated Anglo National Corporation as a debt-previouslycontracted transaction at the market prices on the date of purchase and

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Comptroller of the Currency - 6

sale, which, as of this date would be approximately as follows:

o 13 224.718.
17,286 shares of Bank's own stock
667,460.
66,746 shares of Anglo National Corporation A 10
$ 892,178.

In order to effect this sale, it will be necessary for

Anglo National Corporation to give its unsecured note to the Bank in
the amount of somewhere between $900,000. and $1,200,000, depending

upon the market prices for the stocks on the date of purchase and sale,

which would represent its only liability for money borrowed. As will

be seen from the foregoing, the Anglo National Corporation is possess-

ed of sufficient sound assets to thoroughly protect a loan in this

amount and it would be our purpose to place requirements for liquida-

tion of this loan commensurate with the ability of the corporation to
convert its remaining assets into cash. Completion of this plan,
therefore, will provide for the elimination of all the Bank's own stock
and that of its affiliates from the assets of the Bank.
If this proposed purchase and sale is consummated, the
Directors and shareholders of the Anglo National Corporation can then
take such steps looking toward distribution of its Bank stock holdings
and other assets, liquidation, etc., as may be considered for their
best interests. We believe this plan, speaking in general terms, has
merit from the standpoint of the shareholders of the Anglo National
Corporation and expect that the program will be presented to the share-

holders of the corporation for their approval at its next annual shareholders' meeting, which will be held in February, 1939.

It will be obvious that the successful completion of
this plan brings in items which may not be possible of accomplishment
as, for example, the purchase of minority interests in the banks above
mentioned. We set the plan forth, therefore, with some diffidence as

we may be obliged to alter it. In fact, were it not for the fact that

you desire a prompt answer, we should prefer to consider the matter
further before making any statement.

The comments in your letter respecting the wholly owned
Progress Mortgage Company, the Bank's other real estate account, etc.,

have likewise been carefully noted. Your office is aware of the reasons
for the organization of this company and the further fact that it has
been used as a real estate holding company. It is noted from your
letter that the terms and conditions under which real estate has been
transferred to Progress Mortgage Company are such that the arrangement

in the opinion of your office does not constitute a bona fide sale. We

believe it to be definitely for the best interests of the Bank that this

company be continued as a real estate holding company, and that its
assets now represented largely by real estate owned be reconveyed to
the Bank, following which the various properties be resold to Progress

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10

Comptroller of the Currency - 7
Mortgage Company under a definite agreement of purchase and sale. The

terms of this transaction will provide that the purchase price will be
liquidated in five equal annual installments. An analysis of real estate
loan items which represent potential "other real estate" is now being

made end such items which may be found to be in this category will be likewise transferred to Progress Mortgage Company, in order that the entire

real estate situation mey be concentrated in this affiliate. At the time

of the recent review of the assets of this company by the Reconstruction

Finance Corporation representatives and your Examiner, a requirement was

placed for e $1,000,000 reserve to be set aside against this account,
with the understanding that any unliquidated portion of any annual installment payment will be charged against this reserve. You may be sure

that every effort will be extended to liquidate the assets of this com-

pany and curtail its indebtedness to the Bank as speedily as possible.

The comments contained in your letter of October 3rd respecting two loans, namely, Dollar Steemship Lines Inc. Ltd., and certain

liabilities of Mr. Herbert Fleishhacker, both of which have been classi-

fied by your Examiner as excessive, have been carefully considered. At the
time of the commencement of the last examination of this Bank, the affairs
of the Dollar Steamship Lines Inc. Ltd. were undergoing a reorganization,
which reorganization has now been completed. One of the features of this
reorganization involved the acceptance on the part of this Bank of 11,400
shares of non-cumulative preferred stock of the reorganized company in payment of $1,140,000 of the company's indebtedness. This stock was accepted and is now being carried in the bond account of the Bank at e book value

of $1,140,000 against which a full reserve is being set aside, and the

borrowed money liabilities of the company were simultaneously reduced by
this amount. The additional $250,000 loan commented upon in your letter,
which was granted to this company in January, was made, as reported in our
recent letter, in an emergency, in order that the Dollar Company might be
subsidized by the United States Maritime Commission and its existence per-

petuated for the benefit of this Bank as well as its other creditors. The

security taken for the protection of this $250,000 advance is represented
by preferred mortgages on the S.President Fillmore and S.President
Johnson (subject to prior liens of $90,000.00), which have been appraised
at $375,000 apiece, and which it is represented to us could be disposed of
for salvage purposes for $250,000 each. The present loan indebtedness of
the Dollar Company to the Bank is $2,047,276.10. Energetic steps are now
being taken looking toward the sale of certain of the collateral held behind this loan. It seems apparent to us from representations made by the
officers of the Bank that there should be opportunities available to

effect a reduction in the item within a reasonable time in sufficient
amount to bring the total line within the new loaning limit. We assure
you of our cooperation towards this end. Since the reorganization of the

Dollar Company, the United States Maritime Commission is the actual owner
of roughly 90% of the company's common stock. The company itself has been

granted a five year operating differential subsidy which, on the basis of
present differentials, will amount to $15,000,000. over the life of the

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Comptroller of the Currency - 8

long term subsidy. Insofar as the company's loan to this Bank is concerned, we have retained all our collateral rights, are guaranteed current
interest payments and an amortization schedule for the liquidation of
principal is set in amounts over an eight year period. The Reconstruction Finance Corporation has provided the company with a working capital
loan in the amount of $2,500,000 and the United States Maritime Commiss-

ion have provided further funds up to $2,000,000 for the purpose of effecting reconditioning, repairs, etc., to the company's operating fleet.
There are also enumerated in the Examiner's report, on

page 8 insert 1, the so-called Herbert Fleishhacker loans, totaling
$3,473,442.26. In our letter to you under date of November 9th, we

informed you that as a result of the recommendation of the Committee on
Loans of Officers and Directors, the Bank had foreclosed on the collat-

eral to certain of these loans and reduced it to ownership. Mr. Mortimer

Fleishhacker has informed the Board that he is endeavoring to make an
arrangement whereby the following enumerated loans will be paid in full:
M. & H. Fleishhacker
Fleishhacker Paper Box Co.

Farm Land Investment Co.
Klamath Development Co.

705,000.00
770,000.00
371,000.00
314,000.00
$2,160,000.00

The loan of M. & H. Fleishhacker in the amount of $705,000 and the
Fleishhacker Paper Box loan of $770,000, both loans aggregating $1,475,000,
which have been reduced from $1,600,000 since the date of examination, are

included in the Herbert Fleishhacker concentration on page 8 insert 1. It
will be seen, therefore, that full payment of these two items will reduce
the Herbert Fleishhacker loan in an amount sufficient to relieve criticism
hereafter insofar as the limit of loans is concerned.

The comments contained in your letter respecting the real
estate loan department of the Bank have likewise been carefully noted
and considered. A recent review of this department indicates that liquidation on criticized real estate loans in the amount of $991,000 has taken

place since the date of the examination. It is noted from the last report

of examination that an aggregate of 5,621,351.78 of real estate mortgages
have been classified as non-conforming for one reason or another. Since
the date of examination we have been informed by the Examiner that your
office has recently ruled that, inasmuch as the Comptroller approved the
consolidation of the Anglo California Trust Company with this Bank, the
non-conforming real estate loans originating in the trust company could
be considered as legally acquired by the consolidated bank. By the appli-

cation of this ruling and the collections made in the interim, a total of
$4,765,870.21 of the loans formerly classified as non-conforming may be

eliminated from that classification, leaving a balance of $1,855,481.51

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Comptroller of the Currency - 9

according to the report of examination still subject to adverse classification. We are naturally desirous of eliminating every real estate loan

which might be considered by your office as non-conforming, and it is
proposed to seil these remaining non-conforming real estate loans to the
Progress Mortgage Company under the same terms that the other real estate

account will be sold to that affiliate hereinbefore set forth. The officers
in charge of our real estate loan department will be instructed to take
all necessary action to bring these particular items within a conforming
status at the earliest possible moment. The foregoing action would result in the complete elimination of all real estate loans to which criticism has been directed. From a review of the report it is noted, however, that there remains a total of approximately $4,000,000 of loans
that your Examiner informs us will be classified as "legal when acquired
but non-conforming now". We do not believe that this particular group
of loans and the classification indicated is of a serious nature and your
office may be assured that every possible available means will be used

to either collect or place these remaining items in a condition satisfactory to your office. The fact that over $2,000,000 of real estate
loans have been liquidated since the date of your last examination indicates to us the effectiveness of the results being obtained in this department.
On page 6 of your office letter of October 3, 1938, refer-

ence is rade to twenty-one blocks of stocks and bonds having a book value
of $3,813,467.54. You are now advised that our above mentioned plans
contemplate the elimination of a total of $1,404,988.59 through reserves

to be created out of the proceeds of the preferred stock sale, leaving

$2,408,478.95 still remaining. A substantial portion of this latter

amount is comprised of stocks and bonds originally acquired in connec-

tion with debt-previously-contrected transactions. Records of the Bank
indicate that they were later sold to the Progress Mortgage Company in
1933, for the purpose of effecting a borrowing from the Reconstruction

Finance Corporation at that time for the benefit of the Bank. Following

the repayment of that loan, these stocks were then repurchased by the
Bank, the proceeds of the purchase price having been applied toward the
reduction of the company's indebtedness to the Bank. Ina-much as these
particular assets were always the property of the Bank and acquired
legally through DPC transactions and that the affiliate is 100% owned by

the Bank, adverse classification of these assets is entirely technical,
and the Examiner is requested to obtain a ruling from your office in
this connection. Regardless, however, of the determination of this point,
you may be assured that the securities classified by your Examiner in
this category, all stocks of corporations in which Directors might be
interested, as well as certain bonds to which exception is taken, will
be liquidated as rapidly as reasonable values can be obtained. Liquidation of criticized items under this head has already reached $3,230,500.56
and the officers in charge of the Bond Department have been instructed to
take such steps 88 are necessary to relieve this department of all criticism.

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Comptroller of the Currency - 10
Careful attention has been given to the comments, oriticisms and conclusions of the Examiner contained on page 2 inserts 1 to
17 of the report of examination in question, as well as further comment

in your office letter of October 3rd with reference to miscellaneous
matters to which criticism has been directed. In connection, therefore,
with these particular situations we wish to advise you as follows:
Statutory bad debts, as set forth in your Examiner's report, have to a
large extent been eliminated. Elimination of other items falling within
this category according to your Examiner's classifications will be eliminated by charge off or through reserves upon completion of the adjustment
of capital heretofore outlined.
You have been heretofore informed of the creation of an
executive committee composed of three outside Directors, the President
acting as an ex-officio member, and this committee is now meeting weekly
in pursuance of its duties in deeling with major problems, policies and
loans of the Bank. You have been likewise informed of the appointment
by the Board of a special committee of three to handle the liquidation

of all loans of officers and directors. This committee is now meeting
at regular intervals and making a study of the situation preparatory to
meking its report for the information of the Board as a whole.

A reserve of $750,000 for the Bank's liability in connec-

tion with the Lazard judgment has been previously and is now provided
for by adequate reserves.

The deficit in the preferred stock retirement fund commented upon in the Examiner's report will be eliminated under the recapitalization program set forth herein. Criticism directed to the common stock
certificates of the Bank was corrected during the month of February, 1938.
The expense account of the Bank henceforth will be closely scrutinized and
the Board is now specifically reviewing all expense items in excess of
$1,000.

All executive officers of the Bank will be required to

report their borrowings from other banks in the manner provided by Section
22 (g) Regulation "0" of the Federal Reserve Act 88 of the 2nd day of Jen-

very each year, in order that current information will be available at
all times. The officers in charge of the preparation of the Bank's earnings and dividend reports, as well as published call reports of condition,
will be instructed to make corrections as set forth in the Examiner's
report. An active examining committe will be appointed to work in conjunction with the Bank's Auditing Department, with special attention being
given to criticized assets and other items of criticism which may be contained in future reports of examination.
All loans to Directors and to corporations in which Directors or officers are interested, together with interest rates thereon, will

be specifically approved by the Board of Directors henceforth and such
approval noted in the Minutes.

The reports of examination of the Bank will be fully

CALIFORNIA NATIONAL BANK

14
Comptroller of the Currency - 11

considered by the Board of Directors in the future as well as all importantnoted
communications
from your office and replies thereto, such action to
be
in the Minutes.
You will, of course, understand that the figures used in
this letter have been furnished to us by officers of the Bank and, while

we believe them to be correct, we naturally cannot guarantee them.

Consideration is to be given to the matter of reducing the
number of Directors from twenty-four to fifteen members at the coming
annual stockholders' meeting, with a view towards eventually obtaining
further supplementation of membership strength.

The Board of Directors is fully cognizant of the desire
on the part of your office to assist us in the consummation of a forward
plan which will have for its effect the correction of the conditions set
forth throughout the Examiner's report and your letter of October 3rd.
It is needless for us to state that we will appreciate your active cooperation to this end. On our part, we assure you that we are highly desirous of cooperating to the fullest extent both with your office and the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation to the end that the general plan formulated herein can be placed into operation at the earliest possible
moment. It will be our purpose to give the affairs of the Bank our closost attention and our combined efforts will be directed toward the reestablishment of this Bank to a condition that will be satisfactory to
the supervising authorities. We are not unmindful of the fact that some
of the problems of the Bank will require time and effort to solve, end we
would like to request your forbearance during this period. May we also
request that our letter to you under date of November 9th be read and
considered in conjunction with this communication.

Respectfully yours,

Wo wayna

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Walter autam
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William
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Pages 15 through 18

placed in Book 358, pages 277 A-D

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RE BANK OF AMERICA

Present:

Mr. Hanes

November 22, 1938.
4:05 p.m.

Mr. Oliphant
Mr. Foley

Mr. Delano
Mr. Upham

Mr. Smith
Mr. Gaston

Mr. Duffield
H.M.Jr:

Well, Mr. Hanes.

Hanes:

This is a meeting of this banking group to consider
a letter that the Comptroller wants to write to the
Board of Directors in answer to their answer to

our letter of criticism, and it's been boiled down

to a very short document in which we agree to give
them a conference here at their convenience and then

cite to them certain things which the Comptroller
wants to demand of them. The letter is short and

I'll read it if you wish.

H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

Please.

"In further reference to your letter of October

11, 1938, this office has given much thought and
attention to the matters under discussion between

us.

"We shall be pleased to comply with your request
for a meeting with the managers of your bank to

clarify the issues raised in our letter of

September 23, 1938, at any time they may care to
come to Washington. In the meantime, we want to

reiterate our position as to the necessity for the
correction of certain practices which for several

years have been the subject of so much criticism
in our reports of examination as well as in communi-

cations from this office and in interviews with
your officers.
"We must continue to insist upon:

(1) Proper standards of banking practice.

(2) A reduction in the percentage of criticized
assets; and

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(3) An increase in capital ratio.
"We again emphasize the necessity of immediate action

to achieve these corrections, including the conservation of earnings. We cannot urge too strongly that
you proceed with every power at your command to the
end that this task be performed effectively and
expeditiously.

"Very
truly yours, - Mr. Delano, the Comptroller of
the Currency."
H.M.Jr:

Well, who objects? That's the easiest way.

Oliphant:

I'd like to omit the last two sentences. Rather than
get back on the basis now of pleading with them, I'd
like to omit those two sentences. That is, you've
carried on that process of begging or imploring or
urging for several months or years.

H.M.Jr:

I'm all "fit" out. Anybody can fight who wants to.
You've
got to sign the letter, Preston Delano, so you
do the fighting.

Delano:

Well,
like toI take
leaveissue
it in.with General Counsel. I think I'd

Oliphant:

Well, all I want to do is just present that thought.

As I say, we have over months or years or what have
you
begged and so forth; then we decided
we'durged
take and
action.
Delano:

I recommend that - think that's a matter of just taste

and fancy.
Gaston:

I suggest 50-50 - take the - omit the last sentence

and leave the next to the last in as a final para-

graph.
Delano:

What do you think, Tom?

Smith:

Well, the only thought I have in this is that this
all - there is a chance that some day this will all
come out, be put out on the table; and if it ever
is, you will be charged with being hard-boiled,
hasty, and everything of the kind; and I believe in

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administering the dose as courteously as possible,
being firm but courteous all the way through; and

that's all that is. I don't believe it hurts the
letter in any way to leave it in, but I think it

Oliphant:
Smith:

makes a very courteous communication out of it.
Talking now of both sentences?

Yes, I think they both should stay in, on the ground

that it doesn't injure the letter a bit, but makes
it more courteous. I don't think it's very important
one way
or the
other, but it's a better letter with
both
of them
in there.

H.M.Jr:

Well,
decide.I still say it's up to Preston Delano to

Delano:

well, if I had to decide it - I wrote the letter I'd leave it that way.

H.M.Jr:

Pardon me?

Delano:

I would leave it that way. I agree with Tom.
Check. I've thrown the thought out. I'm satisfied.
All right. Let's look around the room. How about
you (Upham)? You think the letter is all right?
I'm satisfied.

Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:
Upham:

Duffield:

I've really had my shot at this; I'm a little late;

but as it was read it occurred to me that perhaps in
addition to these three things enumerated here we're
charing with outright violations of the law. Maybe
that's covered by point number one - proper standards
of banking practice.
Delano:

Point number one was intended to get them all - a

catch-all proposition.

Duffield:
Delano:

Duffield:

So that's all right - I mean ...
I think we have that in there.
Yes, all right.

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-4H.M.Jr:

Johnny?

Hanes:

Suits me all right. I think it's a good letter.

Delano:

One correction in there as you r ead it; instead of
sayingtechnical
we saything.
"management." Simply purely "menagers"

H.M.Jr:

Ed?

Foley:

Satisfied.

Smith:

This has been around pretty generally, discussed
before you came in.

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RE BANK OF AMERICA & TRANSAMERICA

Present:

Mr. Hanes

November 23, 1938.
9:15 a.m.

Mr. Taylor
Mr. Oliphant
Mr. Foley
Mrs Klotz

Mr. Duffield
Mr. Upham

Mr. Douglas

Mr. Rogge
Mr. Lane
H.M.Jr:

Well, what happened is this. Mr. Douglas called me

up after six last night at the house and talked

about a letter and said he wanted to add a paragraph.
don't know whether to add a paragraph or not."
And then the principal thing he wanted - if two
months from now he wanted some pages, would they
be available. I thought that inasmuch as Delano

So I said, "I don't know anything about the letter,

and Upham had expressed some doubts last night about

the legality of this thing, before I put my neck

out I wanted to have them both on record.
Upham:

That's this order?

H.M.Jr:

To give the S.E.C. what they want from the Comptroller's
and when they want it, in connection
with office,
Transamerica.

Upham:

"1d I express doubt as to the legality?

H.M.Jr:

No, Preston was saying last night here

Foley:

We have an opinion, Mr. Secretary. I'll get it.

Upham:

When Mr. Douglas came over I said I was disposed

H.M.Jr:

to do it, but I would want counsel's opinion before
No, last night.

Hanes:

Mr. Delano, I think, Mr. Secretary, said that; just
asked the question had we verified the fact that he
had the right - he, Delano, as Comptroller, had the
right to give this thing to them.

H.M.Jr:

That's - I mean my

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-2Upham:

Well, I have no

H.M.Jr:

Put this happened last night, didn't it?

Hanes:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I

Upham:

So before I give Bill Douglas ....
He said he wanted to be sure, that's right.

H.M.Jr:

assurances, I want everybody all along the
line my
to be
satisfied.

Kieley:

Mr. Douglas.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

(On phone) Hello. Where's Preston Delano. -

What? -

(Douglas, Lane, and Rogge come in)
H.M.Jr:

We got the wrong Delano - Frederic. The operator
made a mistake. So the one man I wanted here,

Preston,
isn't here. But he's in the building,
so

Douglas:

Shall I wait until he comes?

H.M.Jr:

What?

Upham:

Can I do anything?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, you can get Preston Delano.

(Upham leaves)

I told them just before you (Douglas) came in here,
I want anybody that's got anything to say about
this thing to say "Yes" now or keep their peace

forever. And it's - so I phoned everybody 8 o'clock
to be here, and if anybody's got any doubts, let
them tell - in my shop or the Comptroller's office,
I want to know it this morning. Right?
Douglas:

Yes. I might say, Mr. Secretary, as apropos of our
earlier discussion here the other day, that we have
not received word from F.D.I.C. yet. It was my
understanding that the Comptroller's office was to

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contact F.D.I.C. and then advise us.
H.M.Jr:

Duffield:

Well, do you want - we'11 put Crowley on the phone.
Mr.
back Upham did talk to Mr. Crowley and when he comes

H.M.Jr:

We'11 get Crowley and you can talk to him yourself.

Douglas:

Well, I - that flank hasn't been covered, and I
We'll see how long it will take him to get over here.

H.M.Jr:

(On phone) Leo Crowley on the telephone, please.

-

Did you locate Preston Delano? - Did you speak to
that operator? - What did she say? - All right. Well, see if Leo Crowley's around, please.
Want anybody else?
Douglas:

No. I mean that was the only other agency in question
that we felt might be considered.

H.M.Jr:

I'm perfectly conscious what I'm doing and I'm doing

it cheerfully and - because I think it's one of the

biggest jobs we've got to do in this town.
(Upham comes back)
Upham:

He's on his way down from home. He's not in the
building yet.

H.M.Jr:

I'll murder that operator.

Douglas:

Mr. Secretary, we have - the Commission has approved
the order under Section 19 of our statute. The Com-

mission has authorized the service of that order on

Transamerica and has scheduled the release of that

order for Friday of this week at 3 p.m. When last
evening I was about to sign

H.M.Jr:

Excuse me.

(On phone) Hello. - Get him on the telephone, and
Mr. Douglas and I want to talk to him. - Thank you.
He's in Wisconsin. We'll get him on the phone.

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-4Douglas:

When last evening I was about to sign a letter to
you requesting permission for us to use in our pro-

ceedings, publicly use, officially use in our pro-

ceedings, the information from the Bank Examiners'
reports bearing on the issues raised by our order
and bearing on the facts and allegations charged in
our order, a question arose in my mind by reason
of the presence in the letter that I was about to
sign, that had been worked out by our two staffs,
of a sentence to this effect: that if we wanted to
introduce in evidence at any of these hearings any
certified copy of any part of the Bank Examiners'
report, we would have to come back and - or we would
come
time. back and get further permission at a future

Well now, just to be a hundred and ten percent clear
on this thing, so that we know precisely where we're
going and have a very definite clear understanding,
I thought that I ought to talk to you. We may be
making a request for a certified copy of page 1012
of volume 16 or what not, not next week or not next
month, but in February or in March. The hearing is

going to begin on January 16, 1939. The announcement

of these proceedings is going to create a terrific
turmoil, in my opinion; I mean turmoil in the sense
of every conceivable kind of pressure everywhere in
the Administration to knock off the proceedings by
the S.E.C. We're going right straight ahead with the
thing.

And as I was - and I like to think in these situations
of the worst that could happen, and I began to think
last evening, "Well now, suppose the Secretary and

Johnny Hanes and Herman Oliphant next February or

March for some reason or other were out of the picture, and here's the S.E.C. with these charges, with
the necessity of having a certified copy of page 1014
of volume 16 or what not in order to make that particular charge stand up legally, in order to prove it.
We have no assurance that we're going to get that
thing. We'11 have to then perhaps negotiate with a
new set of people in Treasury and on the record we'll
have absolutely no protection."
Now, I'm just imagining

27
-5H.M.Jr:
Douglas:

H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

You're
pessimistic
about Oliphant, Hanes and me,
aren't you?
(Laughs)

Well, I'm

I think we'll all go to Public Health and get a
certificate.

Bill, you're right. We're all going flying together
right soon. You better not take any chances.

Douglas:

Don't just put me down as a neurotic, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

(On phone) Keep after him. -

Preston Delano anywhere? - No.

And have you g ot

Douglas:

Crowley will be ready in about ten minutes.
I'm just imagining the worst.

H.M.Jr:

That's all right.

Douglas:

But I know there's going to be a great storm of all
sorts of pressures and what not and every conceivable
effort is going to be used to tie our hands at the
legal level of this thing; that is, the introduction
of evidence. And if we're going to be working under

wraps at that level, we may be under very serious
handicaps and we may be out on the end of the limb

with the old saw going at the other end. I just
wanted - the letter is all right; I'll sign it and
I'll undertake to take my chances later on getting
the information if that's the best that you can do,
but I just wanted it clear that you and I had no
mis,understanding on that point because we'll be back
later asking for any of the information, asking for
this specific information; and if there's any slight-

est
reason why we shouldn't have it, we want to know
it now.
H.M.Jr:

Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:

Well now, look, you got me off base last night because
we had a terrible day here - typical Treasury day.

Not typical - worst in 90 days.
All right. And we were getting out a document for
the President. I sent a man down last night in an
airplane. So you're talking about something that

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I've got to do my homework on, so to speak,

publicly. And if you will - I take it Oliphant

heard what you said, and I called him up this
morning, and all I know - he said when he left
here last night he thought everything was all
right as between Rogge and our place. Now let's
start from there, and if you would
Oliphant:

I'd like to make this suggestion. Our objectives
are identical, and I think it's merely the question
of - Bill and I can sit down in my room and in five

minutes agree on the formula.
H.M.Jr:

I'd rather - if it's five minutes, let's do it right

here, because there's nothing more important that

I've got. I've just stopped - we'll stop everything

until it's finished. I'll do it right here.

Douglas:

That's the paragraph - the last paragraph of that

H.M.Jr:

letter is the one that I just paused on.
May I - I mean this is that you didn't want to send
me.

Douglas:

Well, I wanted to make sure that we had

H.M.Jr:

Want me to read this?

....

"May I respectfully request your consent to make

public official use, as part of the proposed pro-

ceedings, of such information obtained from these
reports as is contained in the proposed order?

"Before any of these reports, or parts thereof, are
introduced in evidence at the hearing in this proceeding, another certified copy thereof, in accordance with applicable statutory provisions and rules

and
regulations of the Treasury Department, will be
secured."
Douglas:

It's the last sentence.

H.M.Jr:

Well, has Herman - who put the last sentence in?
I did, out of an abundance of caution.

Foley:

Oliphant:

While I was handling these other matters, Ed was
discussing it with Rogge.

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-7H.M.Jr:

Well, why, Ed?

Rogge:

Ithat
think
that lastconferences
sentence came up this way. I think
at previous

H.M.Jr:

Could you wait just a minute, please? (Whispers
instructions aside to Mrs. Klotz)
(Upham hands Secretary a note)

Damn it, we'll put him on the phone. I mean he's
either Comptroller of the Currency or he isn't
Comptroller
of the
Currency. You can't pinch hit
for him on this
thing.
Upham:

Well, I got him into it originally.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Upham:

I got him
intoheit thinks
originally. I agreed to it being
done.
I guess

H.M.Jr:

Well, all right.

Upham:

I'm sure that he's perfectly willing to permit anything that Herman says can be done.

H.M.Jr:

Upham:

H.M.Jr:

Well, I want him to say so. Douglas says, supposing
that Hanes and Oliphant and I are out of the picture
and supposing you're out of the picture and Preston
Delano is here in charge. Then what? We'll get him
on the telephone and we'll make a record of it.

I'm sure he'll go along.
That isn't what Douglas wants; I mean Douglas wants

a hundred and ten percent; he's entitled to it, and
I'm going to see that he gets it.
Douglas:

I'm just trying to think of the lines of communica-

tion in this military strategy.

H.M.Jr:

Oliphant:

You're right, and you're going to get everything that
Ijust
can- please
give you. I'll give you 150 percent. Now
Well, let Rogge

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-8Rogge:

That last sentence of the letter, I think, arose in

this way: that at a previous conference between Mr.
Upham, Mr. Foley and myself, I said to them that,
of course, before any of the reports or parts thereof
would be introduced in evidence, we would ask for
certified copies thereof, in accordance with the common

law rules of evidence. I did not put that in the
draft of the letter that I brought over here, and Mr.

Foley reminded me that that's what I had said the
previous time and he thought it would be a good idea

to add that sentence to the letter. Now, of course,
I think you could assume that we were going to do
our duty and try this case in accordance with the
rulings
of evidence
without perhaps adding that last
sentence
to the letter.
Foley:

I put it in, Mr. Secretary, perhaps as an over-abundant caution. Matters that are introduced in evidence
will appear in the stenographic transcript, and that
can be purchased and publicly circulated, and I
thought we might want to see those things that were
going to be transcribed in that way before they were
actually put into the record. That was the only

reason
letter. that I inserted that qualification in the
Douglas:

Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:

Oliphant:

Douglas:

But it raises immediately in my mind
I can - if you want me to

I'm listening to you lawyers. I want you
This is up to me, and I'm clear on what that is. You've
got to guard against the possibilities that Bill outlines, and over on the other side are the possibilities
of death and destruction in S.E.C. See? Now, I think
of the two limbs Bill is going out on the longer one,
and I'm perfectly willing to leave it as it now stands,
that as a matter of oral understanding as they want this
stuff they will request the certified copies, and I'm
willing to leave the sentence out.
That would resolve all of the difficulties that I

was having last night.
H.M.Jr:

You mean leave the sentence out.

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-9Douglas:

H.M.Jr:

If the last sentence were stricken
then you're satisfied.

Oliphant:

Now is the sentence too tight for you?

H.M.Jr:

Just a minute.

(On phone) Hello.

follows)

(Conversation with Crowley

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November 23, 1938.
9:38 a.m.
HMJr:
Leo

In the office
here are my own people, plus Commissioner
Douglas
of SEC.

Crowley: Yes.
HMJr:
C:

HMJr:

C:

HMJr:

C:

And - Are you where you can talk?

Yes, sir.
All right. Well now, Commissioner Douglas wants us to he's entitled to a hundred and fifty per cent assurance
that all of us are going to back him up, see?
Yes.

And
I'm see?
going to let him talk to you a minute and satisfy
himself,

All right. Let me say this, I'm sorry I'm away right
now. I had to come out here to the hospital for a little
check up and I'll be back the Friday after Thanksgiving.

HMJr:

Well that's all right.

C:

Let me talk to Bill now.

W.O.

Douglas:

Hello, Leo?

C:

Hello Bill, how are you?

D:

Fine. Have you - you're up to date on what the SEC has
decided to do on the Trans-America situation?

C:

Yes, we'll stand back of you a hundred per cent Bill.
There is no reason, in your mind, why we shouldn't
proceed
forthwith with a proceeding to delist the
Trans-America securities?

D:

C:

D:

I don't see any reason in the wor'd Bill, I think 1f
that fellow is going to be able to dictate and run the
policy of the Government, why we all better quit.
Yes. Well you realize of course that in the allegations
and the charges that we will be making in our order
that will be issued Friday of this week, that there
will be certain facts charged that will challenge

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-2the financial integrity of that whole system.
C:

D:

I appreciate that, Bill. I don't think it'11 hurt the
institution
any
at all. If it does why we'll stand
back
of any of
them.
Well I just wanted to make sure that there was

absolutely full accord all down the line.
C:

That's right. I'm with you Bill, you go right ahead.

D:

O. K.

C:

All right Bill.

D:

Thanks very much.

C:

Hello.

HMJr:

Hope you have a nice Thanksgiving.

C:

Thank you. Are you going to take a little vacation?
Are you going to be back the first of the week?

HMJr:

I'll be back Monday morning.

C:

I'll see
with
you. you

the first of the week. I'd like to talk

HMJr:

Give me a ring will you please.

C:

Thank you.

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H.M.Jr:
Douglas:

Oliphant:

Douglas:

Before we go, we'll get Preston Delano on the phone.
we are under our proceedings, as a practical matter
as well as a matter of law, g eared into the common
law procedure, common law rules of evidence and so

on. We try to stay very, very close to those.
Ed handled this just the way I like the work done;
that is, he was just taking all the precautions.
And we all get together and face the alternative as
to which limb is the longer limb, and I am perfectly
clear in my mind that if we leave that sentence out we should, since they follow, as he says - since

they follow the common law rules of evidence, they
will, in order to make them admissible under those
rules, want to get the certified copies and will as a
matter of routine get them.
That's correct.

H.M.Jr:

Let me see the letter. What you're going to do is
just leave off the last paragraph.

"ogge:

Last sentence.

Douglas:

The last sentence.

The only other question remains as to whether or not
Mr. Lane or Mr. Rogge feel - can give me advice that

otherwise it's all right.

Upham:

Well, let's give them the certified copies now, so
if we all disappear now they'11 have them.

Foley:

We don't know what they'11 want.

Lane:

Can't tell now what pages we want. It's impossible
until the case develops.

Rogge:

The to
letter
able
me. without the last sentence will be accept-

Oliphant:

Entirely agreeable, is it, Rogge?

Rogge:

Yes.

Hanes:

We've satisfied ourselves that the Comptroller has

a right to give all this?

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Oliphant: Yes indeed. Perfectly clear.
Lane:
This should - this point should be recalled. This
is restricted to the information contained in the

proposed order. It may very well be necessary for
us to have revised, amended or supplementary orders,
and we will want to make similar requests for the

right to use the material called for in any of those

supplementary orders. That should also be understood
as
we have to do. May not want to refer to
it insomething
this letter.
Douglas:

Well, from the Treasury's point of view, I gather
it's perfectly clear that if as we go along we find

new relevant matters that would strengthen our hand
in these proceedings that would necessitate an amend-

ment of this order, that we would be in a position

to come back to Treasury and get a similar permission
for information
an amended order as we are getting
for
this originalinorder.
Oliphant:

Why not stick in, Bill, "or amendments thereto" in
the letter? - "in the order or amendments thereto."

Douglas:

That would

Oliphant:

That would take care of it.

Douglas:

That would take care of it once and for all.

Foley:

Then there wouldn't have to be another exchange of

correspondence.
Lane:

If you wanted to say "as may be necessary in the

proposed proceeding" instead of referring specifi-

cally to the order - that's the real point, the proceedings.
Oliphant:
Douglas:

May I see the letter? Is this it?
That's it.
(Various conferees discuss letter
speaking in low tones)

Douglas:

May I - the revision is: "May I respectfully request

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your consent to make public official use, as part
of the proposed proceedings, of such of the information obtained from these 25 reports as is contained
in the proposed order or amendments thereof?"

Lane:

I'd like to toss in an alternative suggestion which it may go too far, but I : "May I respectfully
request your consent to make public official use, as

part of the proposed proceedings, of such of the
information obtained from these 25 reports as the
Commission may find necessary or appropriate in the
proposed proceedings." Don't tie it down to any
specific order - just as an alternative suggestion.
Reference to "information contained in the order"
is to me a little inadequate. We have made public

official use, in a sense, of the information contained in the order by publishing the order. What

we want to use in the proceedings is any information
that we may need in these reports, not knowing now
specifically what we will need and not having even

necessarily a final definitive order, in the sense
we may have supplemental orders.

Douglas:

Well, another way of stating your point would be to
substitute for the phrase "as is contained" "as bears

on the allegations or charges made in the proposed
order or amendments thereof."
Lane:

Yes, certainly.

Rogge:

I think
the Treasury
of
drafting
it too. would prefer, perhaps, that way

Oliphant:

as bears on" instead of the word "contained."

"

Right?

Rogge:

"

11

... as bears on the

If

Douglas:

allegations. If

Douglas:

contained in the proposed order or amendments
thereof."

Oliphant:

Check.

Douglas:

Is that agreeable all around?

H.M.Jr:

Now, do I acknowledge this?

"

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Foley:
H.M.Jr:

Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:

You reply to it.
All right.
Now, I'm not signing anything after 12
o'clock
today.
It will be ready for yoursignature before that.

Wait a minute. Before I sent it - I'll sign it, but

before
it goes over I want Mr. Preston Delano to sign
it.
Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:

Douglas:

Oliphant:

It ought to go the regular route for all the initials.
I want his full signature. I mean can't you leave
a place for him to sign it - "Comptroller of the

Currency" and "Secretary of the Treasury."
Should I address this to both? This is addressed
to the Secretary.

The
authority is vested in you, not in the Comptroller.

Foley:

We can put "Approved" at the bottom, let him approve.
Oliphant: He doesn't approve what the Secretary does.

Taylor: The other way.
Upham:
He can initial it.
Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:

That's legal - what we always do.
Is that holding?

Oliphant:

That's holding, binding.

H.M.Jr:

Well, get everybody in this room to initial it, plus
Delano. Get everybody in this room to initial it I mean everybody who is in Treasury to initial it
and sign it. Now, if anybody - let's go around - if
anybody
doesn't want to initial it, now's the time
to say so.
John?

Hanes:

It's all right.

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H.M.Jr:

Gene?

Duffield:

It's all right.

H.M.Jr:

Cy?

Upham:

In a big hand.

H.M.Jr:

Wayne?

Taylor:

(Nods approval)

H.M.Jr:

All right, there you are.

Douglas:

Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:
Douglas:

Now wait a minute. We don't have to get Delano
on the phone on that basis, do we?
On that basis, no.

H.M.Jr:

Are you satisfied?

Douglas:

Yes.
Shall I say we'll have this over within half
an hour?

H.M.Jr:

What?

Lane:

We can get it over within half an hour.

Oliphant: Send it to Ed.
H.M.Jr:

I think this is something you most likely know, but

we've had this thing with San Francisco before. When
we do anything that affects the Coast we never do it
until six
because their exchanges are open
until
six o'clock,
our time.
Douglas:

H.M.Jr:

Well, we

....

I mean I just - you most likely are aware of that,

but we
have had several instances where the threehour
difference
Douglas:

That's
right;
considered
we'd do
it atwe
three
o'clock. that and still d ecided

H.M.Jr:

All right.

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RE BANK OF AMERICA & TRANSAMERICA

Present:

Mr. Hanes

November 23, 1938.
9:55 a.m.

Mr. Taylor
Mr. Oliphant
Mr. Upham

Mr. Duffield

Mrs Klotz

Mr. Gaston

H.M.Jr:

I want to know - let's hear it.

Hanes:

The order is in the proceeding under Section 19 (a)
(2) under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, in
order to offer testimony against the Transamerica
Corporation for delisting purposes.
The charge - they charge the Transamerica Corpora-

tion with issuing statements filled with false and

misleading statements. They enumerate those false
and
misleading
material
facts. statements, and the omission of
"The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that in 1934 general proxies were given to Giannini,
Grant, and L. M. Giannini, that such proxies were
voted at the annual meeting in the spring of 1934.
It appears to the Commission that the failure to disclose the committee composed of A. P. Giannini, John
Mr. Grant and L. M. Giannini as a parent of the
registrant
constitutes an omission of a material
fact."

That's a generality. They charge them with the failure to disclose the payment to A. P. Giannini of

$1,400,000 during the years from 1930 to 1936.
H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

Excuse
me, what was that for? What was that in
payment for?

In payment for services. The whole citation is
to believe that on January 20, 1930, the sum of

as follows: "The Commission has reasonable grounds

$1,400,000 was placed on the books of Bankitaly
Company of America, then a subsidiary of Trans-

america Corporation, to the credit of A. P. Giannini;

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that of this $1,400,000 all but $792,000 had been
paid to A. P. Giannini by September, 1931, at which
time counsel for the then existing management of
Transamerica Corporation advised that further payment would be illegal; that thereafter subsequent
to the change in management in 1932, A. P. Giannini
withdrew from the balance of $792,000 the following
sums: in 1932, $134,000; in 1933, $132,000; in 1934,

$100,000; in 1935, $251,000; in 1936, $65,000.

"It appears to the Commission that the failure to
disclose these facts in Items 28 and 29 renders
registrant's response to these items materially
misleading."
Then they charge him with the material omissions in
their balance sheet of Transamerica Corporation as

of December 31, 1936. They charge them with balance

sheet irregularities. Transamerica paid large sums
of money to a wholly-owned subsidiary for the distribution of its own S tock. That was through two subsidiaries. The name of that subsidiary was - the
final subsidiary that got the money was Associated
American Distributors, Incorporated. They paid out
Transamerica to the Associated American Distributors a total of $2,341,000 in three years.
-

H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

For what?

For the distribution of the stock of Transamerica

Corporation.
H.M.Jr:

You mean as a bonus?

Hanes:

No, they paid it as a commission.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

Hanes:

As a commission for the distribution of stock.

H.M.Jr:

What I want to interrupt you at this point - that
information doesn't come out of the Comptroller's
office, does it?

Duffield:

That's their own.

Hanes:

This
is - I think this is their own. The bank stuff
came out

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H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

But this distribution business
No, but the payments of the Bank of Italy to Giannini that comes out of our files. These monies should have
been charged to the current expense of this corporation called Associated American Distributors - I mean
to the - it should have been charged as expense to the
Transamerica, whereas it was charged to the "Paid-In
Surplus" account and it wasn't charged to current
expense. That's
what - they charge there that's a
misleading
statement.
Here it comes down to information which they got from
us. The bank examiners wrote off, or caused to be
written off, $35,000,000 from the Bank of America

statement as worthless or uncollectible items. The
Bank turns around and sells these items, turns around
and sells these doubtful assets to its own parents,
that is, to Transamerica and Transamerica General, at
their
full face value, $35,000,000.
H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

Full value, to Transamerica?

Full value. Sold these assets which were written off
by the bank examiners as worthless.

H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

They're
worthless, but they sell them to Transamerica
for
thirty-five.
Then they charge them with not making clear the fact

that the investment of over eight million dollars,
pretty near nine million dollars, in Italy was subject to certain restrictions imposed by the Italian
Government upon the transfer of the profits and funds
from Italy to any other country, which materially
affect
investment and therefore should be stated
to the this
stockholders.
That isn't the worst one.
H.M.Jr:
Hanes:

I'm
intensely interested. Don't skip anything. I'm
intensely interested - intensely.
They charge them with setting up no reserve in the
Bank of Italy statement - setting up no reserve on
real estate and real estate loans, amounting to a
total of $133,000,000; charge them with writing up
their Government securities $14,000,000 and taking

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that write-up into their current profit account;
without realizing the profit, they take that into
their current profit and pay dividends on it.
Duffield:

They used that $14,000,000 to allow Transamerica to
repay them for those bum a ssets.

H.M.Jr:

Pay them for the $35,000,000 - you mean the write-up

Duffield:

To excuse that debt, they got it around to Transamerica, so they could switch it.

Hanes:

They charge them with their reserve being misleading
because of his failure to provide for losses and
doubtful accounts in Bank of America other than

of
the 14 is part of the stuff they used to pay for
the 35.

loans on "farm lands" and "other real estate" included
in the "Assets" to the extent of approximately
$8,000,000; also in failure to provide sufficient
reserves for the $304,000,000 of loans on "farm
lands" and "other real estate"; also failure to
provide for losses on real estate other than bank
premises held by Bank of America to the extent of
approximately $1,600,000; in failing also to provide
sufficient depreciation for bank premises, furniture,
and fixtures of Bank of America; in failure to provide also for losses on bonds and other securities
held by Bank of America to the extent of approximately
$400,000 and for losses on other asset items to the
extent of approximately $300,000.

Then they charge them with their undivided profits
account - the net is set forth at $22,503,000, and

the Commission has reasonable grounds to believe that

in that it includes approximately $9,000,000 of
unrealized appreciation resulting from the $14,000,000
write-up in 1935 and 1936 of United States and municipal securities held by the Bank; also in failing to
include a reserve for losses and doubtful accounts,
losses on real estate, depreciation of bank premises,
furniture and fixtures of Bank of America and losses
on securities and other assets in excess of
$13,000,000.

H.M.Jr:

(On phone) Hello.

it.

-

All right, I hope he enjoys

Colonel McIntyre is having his breakfast and will talk

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in a few minutes.
Hanes:

The S.E.C. claims that if these two items were taken
into account in the balance sheet it would completely
wipe out that portion of the "Undivided profits net" which may be attributed to Bank of America.

H.M.Jr:

Again they charge them in 1935 and 1936 with including unrealized depreciation as income, and dividends
paid in 1935 were more than $3,500,000 in excess of
actual earnings.
In the case of

Hanes:

In the case of Transamerica.

H.M.Jr:

Say that again.

Hanes:

The dividends paid in 1935 were more than three

million dollars in excess of their earnings. That

was dividends paid by, not Transamerica, but Bank
of America.

H.M.Jr:

Bank of America.

Hanes:

Now, the worst item that I could find in here, and
this is such fancy bookkeeping and such kiting as I
have never seen in my life - this is a hot one - in
1933 the Bank sold to the parent banks - to its two

parents - now, the Bank is owned by two parents; one
is 99 percent owned - 99.65 percent owned; the other
is 100 percent owned by that one .... - they sold to

the parent charged off assets, that is, assets that
the Bank had charged off - they sold to the parents

H.M.Jr:

which is Transamerica?

Hanes:

...

which is Transamerica, for $250,000. Now, keep

that figure in mind. In 1934 they sold another group
of assets to the same parents for $50,000. So they
paid a total - the parents paid a total to the Bank
of $300,000 for this group of assets, and they were
assets which had been charged off of the Bank, you
see, as worthless.

Now, in 1936 those companies which had bought those

assets sold the same assets to two more subsidiaries,
or 100-percent-owned corporations, for $500,000.

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So you got two steps. Then in 1937 the Bank comes
back

H.M.Jr:

The Bank of America?

Hanes:

The Bank of America comes back and pays to this fourth
one of the chain $6,500,000 for those assets.

Oliphant:

Oh my God!

H.M.Jr:

For the same assets which they originally sold for

Hanes:

Wait a minute; they paid $6,500,000 for a portion of

$300,000.

those assets - for a portion of them. It wasn't a -

there was $1,100,000 sold to another company, which

is the California Lands Company. So from the original
three hundred thousand they extracted a million one,

then sold the balance for six million dollars.
Duffield:

"here did they get that information from?
That's out of our reports.

Hanes:

If they don't know where that comes from

Upham:

That's our report.

Hanes:

In order to - here's one I don't quite.get. The

H.M.Jr:

Transamerica - all this passing through these cor-

porations back to the Bank; Transamerica then goes
in and gives the Bank a guaranty of $6,500,000,

Duffield:

its purchase price, against the loss on these
assets. Now, Gene says he understands that, but
I don't quite understand it - why the Transamerica
It's hooked up with another transaction, because

Transamerica under that previous purchase of
$35,000,000 worth of bum assets which were referred

to earlier, had coming due within nine months a
balance due to the Bank of eight million - between

eight and nine million dollars. This six million

and a half which was paid to the subsidiary company
for these bum a ssets went around through that subsidiary to Transamerica Corporation. Transamerica

used those funds to discharge a portion of that
eight million dollar debt. So that what happened
was that instead of an eight million dollar debt

coming due within nine months for Transamerica, the

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Bank got this $6,500,000 guaranty from Transamerica,

which runs over five or ten years, I've forgotten

which.
Upham:

Duffield:

Five years.

Five years. So that what happened was that through
these two manipulations they extended for five years
a debt which Transamerica had coming due within nine
months. That's what happened. The reason Transamerica

guaranteed it was that it got excused for this other

debt.

Taylor:

I got - in reading over some of those things that
came over from the S.E.C. and our own comments on it,
I got very S trongly the impression that several of
these transactions were entered into for tax pur-

poses.
Upham:

Duffield:

That's right.
Well, at the date they did this they excused altogether, or rather, extended for from five to ten
years, about $11,000,000 worth of debt.

Taylor:
Upham:

Taylor:

Yes. I'm making this additional comment
Saved about two million in taxes.

that as it was described in several of those

memos, why, they would take this profit and place

Duffield:

it in a place where it wouldn't show
That's right.

Taylor:

... for taxpurposes.

Oliphant:

If it was done for tax purposes, it's none the less

Taylor:

No, I wasn't - I was giving that as an additional
incentive for why they handled these things in that

misleading to stockholders.
way.

H.M.Jr:

Duffield:

A little by-product, huh?
That's right.

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It wasn't for tax purposes that in 1937 the Bank of
America paid six and a half million dollars for a
portion of the same assets which the Bank had
originally sold in '33 and '34 for $300,000. That
wasn't for tax purposes.

Taylor:

Johnny, I think you'll find that there was at least

one of those transactions which showed that right
up, and so on, which unquestionably had the tax

H.M.Jr:

angle in there. That is, as I say, a very strong
impression that I got.
Let's go on; let's just run over that.

Hanes:

That's the worst one.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I just wanted

Hanes:

And the balance of the order recites for five years
practically the same thing that I've recited for the
previous year.

H.M.Jr:

Now - all right, I just wanted - the reason I wanted
to listen - I wanted to make sure that they weren't
hanging this whole thing on the Comptroller's report,
because, strictly in this room, I'm bothered that it
took us a month to answer Giannini's letter.

Oliphant: It took what?
H.M.Jr:
It took us a month to answer the directors' letter.
It bothers me that we took a month to answer it, and
then we really didn't answer it. And I'm just raising
the question why, if S.E.C. can get out a letter - why
this - why does it take the Comptroller's office a
month to get out something and it really isn't something; all you did is say, "Come on over here and
see me; come on up and see me."

Upham:

That's a good question.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I'm just - I mean if they can do a thing like
that, based on our report Then after a month of
maneuvering we write them a one-page letter: "Come
to Washington, we'll talk it over."
And I further ask the question, which the public will

ask: if the S.E.C. can move on this front and move so

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promptly, why, when Morgenthau has made such a

fuss, changed and got new people in the Comptroller's
office - what are they doing? I mean you people have
been in there since the first of October. Now, what
are you doing about this? What's the answer to that?

Upham:

Well, the answer on the October 11 letter, I think,
is this. I acknowledged it at once. We had a meeting of the banking group, and it was there that Mr. Delano was present - it was their feeling unanimously that that letter was such a good reply to our
criticisms of the Bank of America that we couldn't do
anything until that letter had been analyzed point

by point and it was discovered whether or not our
examiners were right or Giannini was right.
Now, we went ahead to make that analysis of the letter
and we got into complicated transactions; we didn't
have very much help in the Comptroller's office to
make that analysis aside from the examiners themselves,
who were reviewing their own work. And when we pro-

duced a letter based on that answer of theirs, answering point by point, why, the banking committee determined that it would be preferable to write a very
short letter and include the detail in a letter of
warning when we have had a little more time to S traighten out all the complications and go back out to the
Bank and find out whether some things were true.

Now, that is not, in my opinion, an answer to the
letter - to why the letter wasn't answered a long
time ago, and with a good deal of this material in
it. of course, we have faced the Bank with these
facts in the reports of examination and we have been
repeating what we told them before. That is an explanation which is not an answer to your question at all.
H.M.Jr:

No, it isn't, and it isn't an answer to Mr. Giannini
bellowing all over Houston that after 30 days we
couldn't answer his letter.
Well, I'm going to ask, how long is it going to take
the Comptroller's office before you can do something

about the Bank of America?
Upham:

Before we do something?

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Yes, besides writing letters.

Upham:

Well, the plan now seems to be to call them in and
talk to them. I think the examiners and the admin-

istrative people in the Comptroller's office regard
this letter we are sending today as a slap on the
wrist.

Duffield: To them.
Upham:

To the Bank of America.

Duffield:

Well, aren't you meanwhile working on the formal letter
of warning which has to be the next legal S tep?

Upham:

That's right, we're working on a letter of warning to
the Bank which would be a basis for certifying them

to the Federal Reserve.
H.M.Jr:

Well, how long before that letter - does it - the
letter of warning will not go until Giannini comes
here?

Upham:

That's my understanding. The next thing is a conference with Giannini. That seemed to be the

Oliphant:

All that left me cold, and that was the reason I sug-

Upham:

gested omitting the last two sentences yesterday.
I've been convinced since early September that we

have unsafe and unsound banking evident and that we

could write a letter of warning and certify them to
the Federal Reserve. Now, I don't think we know all
the answers to all of the points that are made in all
of the replies that come from Giannini; but there
certainly is a mass of evidence of unsafe and unsound
banking sufficient to certify them to the Federal

Reserve Board. But when we get into analyzing and
everybody agreeing to go ahead and do it, why,
Duffield:

Well, if I may at that point suggest something that

was suggested to me in the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation - that if we can warn them on some points

we don't need to make the first letter of warning cover
everything. If we can catch them on something else
later on and have all the details on that, we can

warn them once a week if we want to.

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What do you think, John?

Hanes:

I think in fairness to the Comptroller's office in

this thing here - you ask why the S.E.C. can do a
document like this in such a short length of time.
The S.E.C. in the first place have been familiar
with the Transamerica up to the point of giving
you that first information that they had. In addition to that, all they had to do was come in here
and get out some certain salient points that were
very vulnerable and attack them on those points: just
what the F.D.I.C. said to Gene, to pick out the point
that you do know that they're violating, and go and
charge them with those, and if later on some others

develop, do them; but let it go, try not to make a
tourniquet job of the first letter to cover every
point in the bank examiner's report. So I think
it's fair to say that the S.E.C. have come in here

and picked out the things which have hit you in the
eye and have included those in their so-called order,
which is a far less task than by and his group have
to do if they're going to make a complete analysis
and tourniquet job to answer every specific point
Upham:

that Giannini has raised in h i s letter.
If we're going to wait until we're absolutely sure
that in every particular we're right, why, we'll be

a long time.
Hanes:

Well, that's what you said: it will take you until

after hristmas to get everyone of these questions
answered, and I'm inclined to agree with the suggestion of the F.D.I.C. that you not wait until you et
every single item analyzed, but to pick out the ones
that are really important and the ones you really have
a case on. That's what the S.E.C. has done.
H.M.Jr:

That's what I'm leading to. If the S.E.C. can take
the salient points out of our report, why can't the
Comptroller's office do the same thing?

Taylor:

I think they're in much better shape if they do,
because there are enough things in there, things

that you're perfectly clear about so you don't
have to cite them for all these other things about

which there can be rather serious argument.
Upham:

Well, if we could have got this agreement a month
ago, we could have done that at once.

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H.M.Jr:

Well, say what's on your mind. I don't know what's
on your mind; if there is something on your mind,
say it. I mean amplify that statement that you just

made now.
Upham:

Well,
I've had to - well, I've been privileged to
have

H.M.Jr:

You're amongst friends.

Upham:

I've been privileged to have this group to help
me, but after all it does slow things up a little.
We had this meeting in Mr. Taylor's office of the
banking group, and they said, "Now we must be
absolutely sure, we must go very slow, before we

get out on a limb with Giannini; we must be able
to answer this very good and very clever letter
that he has written." And it doesn't seem to me

that it was a very good and very clever letter.

But I'm a small fellow among a bunch of important
people here, and I'm not going to just go out and
run the Comptroller's office and have you say,

"Well, look how big shot he got to be overnight."
I'm guided by you all, I have to listen to you and
listen to what you say, and I'm very glad most of
the time to have you tell me.
Gaston:

I think you should mention in that connection that
there are jobs for three men there in the spot which
Cy has been occupying since the first of October,
and it's a pretty tough spot.

H.M.Jr:

That

Gaston:

H.M.Jr:

He didn't have an organization in there.
Cy and I understand each other perfectly. Don't we?

Upham:

I hope so.

H.M.Jr:

Now, the point that I'm getting over is that this
advisory committee which I've set up - I think that
when Mr. Crowley comes back Monday, in view of this

thing and in order that we be at least as aggressive
as the S.E.C. - I wish you people would take another

Oliphant:

look at this thing, see?
well, does that mean this letter is going out, the
one they had?

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Well, I wouldn't change anything.

Upham:

Hasn't been signed.

Hanes:

Seems to me - Herman, the way I look at this thing

is that he asked specifically for a meeting, said,
"I'd like to come in here and talk to you." Well,
after all, as Tom Smith says, what you're trying to
do is clean up that bank. That's what you want to
do, is clean up that bank. And if he makes that
direct request, I don't see how you can very well
refuse him.

H.M.Jr:

I don't want to change, I don't want to be in the
position that one day I say one thing and one day
another. We agreed to this. That doesn't mean that
this little banking group can't meet on Monday with
Crowley and see if maybe we can't use this as a model,
and so forth and so on, and pick out of it some of the

salient points. I'm familiar with this thing - I mean

that this question had to be answered; and then the
thing that bothered me was, I began to wonder whether
you could answer Giannini's letter, on account of

all the delay.

Upham:

well, there was an atmosphere all around town of
"GO slow," you know. Marriner wrote to you and said
he thought it was inadvisable to go ahead, and that

had an effect on a lot of people.

H.M.Jr:

I've heard this. I'm glad I said what I've said.
Evidently - but then I think that if Hanes will get

the so-called banking advisory group together on
Monday and take another look at this thing, then

they can advise me further. Is that all right?

Hanes:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

What? Now, for my information, will you clear up,
you and Oliphant, with Douglas whether this is
simply a courtesy matter and whether - we've seen
it and have no comment to make; I take it that's
what we do.

Hanes:

They called me last night and said, "If we want to
mail this thing to San Francisco, have it ready for

delivery on Friday, we want to clear it with the

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Treasury tonight." See? So that's the reason I
stayed up last night to do this thing. I thought
it was important, if they're going to send that
thing out there - if we had any objection to this
thing, we ought to say so now.

H.M.Jr:

Now the other thing, when that's certified is this

Hanes:

On Friday.

H.M.Jr:

made public?

It is made public - that whole letter. Well then,
attention to it, please?

when it is made public, would you draw Elmer Irey's

Hanes:

Beforehand?

H.M.Jr:

No, I'd wait until Friday. I'd just want to say this.
I mean in order to make my position also consistent

in approaching this thing, I would rather err on the
side of being extra careful in our approach to the
Bank of America than of going off half-cocked and
being sorry afterwards. And the fact that we've got

this now is all to the good, but I think in view of
the technique followed by the S.E.C. of picking out
the salient things - I think that possibly we might

do the same and not try to cover a hundred items or
Taylor:

whatever it is. Right, Wayne?
I think particularly because some of those points
are definitely arguable

H.M.Jr:

You're changing your position too now?

Taylor:

I've felt that if we were going to attempt to answer
that letter that we should - which is what we were
trying to do in the original drafts, and they were
very long drafts - that we weren't sure enough of

certain positions which we were taking to be able

to do it; and I still feel that same way: that
there are certain things that Giannini brings out
that I haven't seen that we have sufficient information to be able to say, "You're a liar," which is

what you have to be able to do.
H.M.Jr:

Now one other thing; I'd say this is the most impor-

tant. This letter is going to be released on Friday.

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What are the chances of any - if any, of - when

Hanes:

this letter is released, that there might be a
run on the Bank of America? This is - this I
consider terrifically important, and what steps
does anybody take to see that if there is a crisis
we should put in enough capital to take care of it?
I should think it would be a good idea to talk to

Jesse about this thing.
H.M.Jr:

I do.

Oliphant:

Does Jesse know about it?

H.M.Jr:

Jesse does.

Hanes:

He does know about it.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, he does. Wayne's told him, and

Oliphant:

Administrative possibility that Leo

Upham:

Well, the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco will

have to provide cash if there is any cash provided -

more important than Jesse or Leo in meeting that.

But I don't think there will be any runs.
H.M.Jr:

Herman, exclusive of Herbert, the people in this
room - if you will assume the responsibility, I'd
like you to assume that responsibility for me, but

in the sense that - to watch it for me, but I mean
it's not - I'm not divesting myself of responsibility.
And I'd like you (Hanes) to take it up with Eccles
today; I'll make you chairman of this committee for
me. And take it up; and I'll be out of your hair, so
to speak, by noon, so this afternoon I think I'd have
Eccles come over here and talk to him and somebody
from Crowley's office and the Comptroller's office,
and just have a little war board; because the one
thing the President said to me in connection with
Bank of America is, "Now make doubly sure that you're
going to look after the depositors."
So I think this afternoon you fellows ought to sit
down and discuss all possibilities and be prepared
if they need cash, and have it there, and if necessary
to send the cash in armored trucks, and everything

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else. And I think you fellows ought to have a
little war board meeting this afternoon. Now, I'm
not in any way divesting my responsibility other
than - let's call this a planning board in case
of war; but I'm still Secretary of the Treasury
and have my full responsibility. But I do want
you fellows to get together this afternoon with
Jesse, with the others, just have it ready. Now,

is that - what? And then - but I wish you

would meet with them and just be sure that everything is ready. And if you have any doubts, you
can .call me on the farm, will you?
Hanes:

Yes, sir.

Oliphant:

I'd like for Ed to sit in to follow it.

H.M.Jr:

What?

Oliphant:

For Ed to follow it.
That's all right; but you're a member of this group,

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Oliphant.

Oliphant:

Yes, sir. Well, the technical thing - is it satisfactory for Ed to sit?

H.M.Jr:

Sit? You mean for you?

Oliphant:

Yes. I've got a pretty tall desk.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that's up to the chairman of this committee.

Oliphant:

Well, whatever John wants.

H.M.Jr:

what do you want, John?

Hanes:

That's all right with me. He's been following this
thing.

Oliphant:
H.M.Jr:

Yes, been following it very closely.
All right, fine. And if you want me tonight, you see,
to talk to me about it - talk over if there's any
question; I think you definitely ought to prepare
for any possible move, a run on the Bank or banks.
And if when you meet this afternoon - gentlemen, I've

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got General Craig here - won't you throw out a

little hint, if you think well of it, to Eccles

that they shouldn't let this thing just slide over

that these banks which are holding companies - I
mean what's that thing that expires on November 29?
Duffield:
H.M.Jr:

Duffield:

Voting permit for the stock in the Bank.
In the group - I mean not just to sit back and let
the thing slide by without bringing it again to the
attention of whoever controls those things.
They've instructed their Vice President in the San
Francisco Bank that if Transamerica hasn t submitted
a suggestion by the 29th, to go in on their own
motion and discover what the situation is and what
the company proposes to do.

H.M.Jr:

Well, could this be possible, to do it even a little
bit differently? To say that if on the 29th they

haven't done it (makes sharp downward motion with
arm) ?

Duffield:

Yes, I should think so.

H.M.Jr:

Instead of doing it that way, I mean, to get out the
notice that "you have the 29th as a deadline, and if
by the 29th you haven't severed the connections of
this thing, the voting trust expires and will not
be renewed."

Duffield:

I think - should think it will be.

Hanes:

Is that up to the Federal Reserve Board?

H.M.Jr:

The Board. Instead of sitting back, arguing about
it for a year, they can put them on notice: "Now
if by the 29th you haven't done so and so, the
permit expires and will not be renewed. I'm bringing

that - I'm not - this is a suggestion and not an
order. I mean I'm just, instead of - in other words,
let's change the technique, if possible. They've had

how many months to think this thing over?
Duffield:

They S tarted way back in the spring, when they first
notified the Corporation.

H.M.Jr:

I'm just offering this - when you get this group

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together
Hanes:

O.K.

Upham:

Mr. Secretary, I don't want these people to think
that I don't appreciate their help, because I do,
and I take the blame myself for these things not
being done.

H.M.Jr:

Cy, nobody's blaming. Listen, the purpose of these

meetings is to talk frankly and for me to talk frankly
and everybody else to talk frankly. I appreciate the
difficulties and the handicaps which you are working
under. I didn't know that Mr. Delano was such a sick
man and couldn't come to the office all the time. I
appreciate all the trouble. But what is said here
is f or the benefit of myself and everybody else, and
you know by now that when I make statements or - if
I'm wrong or anything else. But nobody - you need
this group badly.

Upham:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I need them badly, and we'll continue to work

together. But the purpose of it is so that we can
all talk things over. And I couldn't help but be
hit on the forehead when I see this thing, and I've
just heard yesterday about Mr. Giannini bellowing
all over Houston, and naturally it will be asked,
"++ they can do it, why not the Comptroller's
office?" I realize there's a lot of reasons why,
but I also realize that you might follow this as a
pattern. Might - that's all. Just r emember, you

always have been and still will be a member of the

Treasury family.
Upham:

Thank you.

H.M.Jr:

And we squabble among st each other, but if any

outsider comes in we all join hands against the

outsider. Right?

Upham:

O.K.

H.M.Jr:

And you're still on the inside.
Here's the formal opinion of your authority to turn

Oliphant:

those examiners' reports over to S.E.C.

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H.M.Jr:

I can't take that on the fly.

Oliphant:

You don't want it now.

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For IMMEDIATE Release Friday, November 25, 1988
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

Washington
Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Release No. 1950

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
BEFORE THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

At a regular session of the Securities and Exchange

Commission, held at its offices in the City
of Washington, D. C., on the 22nd
day of November, A. D. 1938.

In the Matter of
Proceeding under Section 19(a)(2)
of the Securities Exchange Act
of 1934. is amended, to determine

ORDER FOR HEARING
AND DESIGNATING
OFFICER TO TAKE

whether the registration of

TESTIMONY

TRANSAMERICA CORPORATION
:

CAPITAL STOCK, $2 PAR VALUE
:

should be suspended or withdrawn

File No. 1-2964

:

It appearing to the Commission that Transamerica
and that said Transamerica Corporation registered 11, 590,784
shares of such stock on the New York Stock Exchange, the Los

Corporation is the issuer of Capital Stock, $2 par value,

Angeles Stock Exchange, and, by amendment, on the San

Francisco Stock Exchange, all national securities exchanges,
by filing on or about August 7, 1937, an application on Form
24 signed for the Corporation by John M. Grant, President,
with the said exchanges and with the Commission pursuant to
Section 12(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as
amended, and pursuant to Rule JB1 (now Rule X-12B-1) as
amended, promulgated by the Commission thereunder, which
application became effective September 10, 1937; and
The Commission having reasonable grounds to believe

that Transamerica Corporation has failed to comply with
the provisions of Section 12(b) of the Securities Exchange
Act of 1934, as amended, the rules, regulations, Form 24
and the Instructions thereto, promulgated by the Commission

thereunder, in that the application for registration on
tion contain false and misleading statements of material

Form 24 and the amendments thereto, filed by said Corpora-

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facts, including financial statements of said Corporation and its subsidiaries, which do not correctly reflect
the true financial condition of the Corporation and its
subsidiaries, all as hereinafter more particularly set
forth;

The false and misleading statements which the
Commission has reasonable grounds to believe exist in the
application on Form 24 and the amendments thereto being

more particularly as follows:
I.

Item 4(b) and Item 11, Col. G call for certain
information with respect to all parents of the
registrant. The Instructions to Form 24 define
the term "parent" to include a person in control
of the registrant and the term "control" is defined
to mean "the possession, direct or indirect, of
the power to direct or cause the direction of the
management and policies of a person, whether
through the ownership of voting securities, by
contract, or otherwise.
The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that in 1934 general proxies, to remain in full
force and effect, unless revoked, for a term of

seven years, were delegated to a Committee COM-

posed of A. P. Giannini, John M. Grant and L. M.
Giannini, that such proxies were voted at the
annual meeting of stockholders on March 29, 1934,

and were in effect at the date of the application

on Form 24, and that at such date these proxies
conferred upon A. P. Giannini, John M. Grant and
L. M. Giannini the power to direct the management
and policies of the registrant. It therefore
appears to the Commission that the failure in Item
4(b) and Item 11, Col. G to disclose the committee
composed of A. P. Giannini, John M. Grant and

L. M. Giannini as a parent of the registrant constitutes an omission of a material fact.
II.

Item 28 and Item 29 call for information with
respect to the remuneration paid by the registrant

and its subsidiaries to certain of its officers,

directors and employees.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that on January 20. 1930, the sum of $1,400,000
was placed on the books of Bankitaly Company of

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America (then a subsidiary of Transamerica

Corporation) to the credit of A. P. Giannini;

that of this $1,400,000 all but $792,000 had been
paid to A. P. Giannini, by September, 1931, at
which time counsel for the then existing management of Transamerica Corporation advised that
further payment would be illegal; that thereafter
subsequent to the change in management in 1932,
A. P.' Giannini withdrew from the balance of
$792,000 the following sums:

1932 - $134,826.58

1933 - 132,896.92
-

1934
1935
1936

-

100,596.24
251,952.03
65,914.28

It appears to the Commission that the failure to
disclose these facts in Items 28 and 29 renders
registrant's response to these items materially

misleading.

III. With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Transamerica
Corporation as of December 31, 1936 A.

In Schedule VI the figure $1,171,714.56 is
set forth as a charge to "Paid-In Surplus
in 1936 under the caption "Charge resulting
from cancellations and redistribution of

capital stock.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to

believe that of this amount $1,124,724.78

represents commissions and other monies paid
by Transamerica Corporation to Associated

American Distributors, Inc. (at that time

a

wholly-owned subsidiary of Inter-Continental
Corporation which was itself a wholly-owned
subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation). in

connection with the following activities:

From 1934 to April 1937, Associated American

Distributors, Inc. engaged in the business of
soliciting orders to purchase Transamerica
Corporation stock on the various stock exchanges
on which such stock was listed. It does not
appear that in any case Associated American

Distributors, Inc. solicited orders for the

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purchase of capital stock held by Transamerica

Corporation. The solicitations were effected
by means of contracts entered into by Associated
American Distributors, Inc. with independent

dealers and through a large number of sales-

men employed directly by Associated American

Distributors, Inc. Associated American Distributors, Inc. paid commissions to the dealers
and to its salesmen for the orders obtained and,
to encourage retention of the stock so purchased,
additional commissions were paid in proportion

to the duration of "placements. To support

these activities, Transamerica Corporation paid

the following amounts to Associated American

Distributors, Inc.: In 1934, $336,857; in

1935, $891,202.1 in 1936, $1,124,724.78.

These payments were treated by Associated

American Distributors, Inc. as current earnings
and were set up on its books as income in the
years received.

In the light of the facts set forth above, it

appears to the Commission that the commissions
and other monies paid to Associated American

Distributors, Inc., in the amount of $1, 124, 724.78
in 1936, represent a current expense properly

chargeable to profit and loss and that registrant's treatment of this item as a charge to

Paid-In Surplus" and its failure to reflect

this item as a current expense with a consequent
reduction in "Earned Surplus" renders the
"Balance Sheet" and Schedule VI materially

misleading.
IV.

With respect to the "Profit and Loss Statement"
of Transamerica Corporation -

A. Schedule VI sets forth as charges to "Paid-In
Surplus* under the caption "Charge resulting
from cancellations and redistribution of capital

stock" the figures $495,152.72 in 1934, $891,202.17
in 1935 and $1,171,714.56 in 1936.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that of these figures $336,857 in 1934, $891,202.
in 1935, and $1,124,724.78 in 1936 represent

commissions and other monies paid by Transamerica

Corporation to Associated American Distributors,

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Inc. (then a wholly-owned subsidiary of InterContinental Corporation which vanilfself a whollyowned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation) in
connection with the activities described above in

paragraph III-A. In the light of the facts and for

the reasons set forth above in paragraph III-A, it
appears to the Commission that registrant's treatment of these Items renders the profit and loss
statements for 1934, 1935, and 1936 materially misleading.

V. With respect to the "Balance Sheet". of Inter-America
Corporation as of December 31, 1936

A.

Under the caption 'Reserves - For liability and
possible loss under outstanding contract of
guaranty" and in Schedule V relating to
additions and charges to "Reserves", there is
set forth the figure $9,302,381.82. The
accompanying Note states that this amount
relates to a contract of guaranty given to Bank
of America N.T. and S.A. in connection with
certain assets of the Bank.
The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that certain facts having a material bearing on
this matter are as follows:

In 1931, in the course of an examination of
Bank of America N.T. & S.A., the national bank
examiners classified certain assets of the Bank
in the face amount of approximately $35,214,000
as losses and doubtful accounts of such unsatis-

factory character as to require their elimination

from the Bank's balance sheet. Under three contracts dated June 26, 1931, December 31, 1931,
and February 13, 1932, Bank of America N.T. &
S.A. and Corporation of America (both of whiah
were at that time 99.65% owned by Transamerica
Bank Holding Company, itself a wholly-owned
subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation), entered
into agreements which provided that Bank of

America N.T. & S.A. "agrees to sell, transfer
and set over and does hereby sell, transfer and
set over to the. Corporation, and the Corporation
agrees to purchase and does hereby purchase
from the Bank all such assets. As consideration

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for these assets, Corporation of America agreed
to pay the face amount of $35,214,000. To
secure performance Corporation of America pledged
with the Bank the assets purchased together with

additional collateral. Corporation of America
failed to give effect on its books to the assets

acquired by these contracts of purchase and sale

or to reflect any direct liability thereunder,

but apparently treated the obligation arising
under the contracts as a guaranty by setting up

reserve from capital surplus in an amount approximately equal to the aggregate purchase price
a

under the contracts.

In 1933. the three contracts were transferred to

Transamerica Bank Holding Company, and Transamerica

Bank Holding Company by a resolution of its Board
of Directors, dated August 30. 1933, agreed to

assume all of the obligations of Corporation of

America under those three certain contracts between
said Corporation of America and Bank of America N.T.
&

S.A. In connection with this transfer, Corpora-

tion of America eliminated the reserve set up to
cover its obligation under the contracts, then ag-

gregating approximately $34,994,376.57 and a reserve
in the same amount appeared on the books of Transamerica Bank Holding Company. At a "Special
Stockholders Meeting" on April 20. 1935, the name

of Transamerica Bank Holding Company was changed to

Inter-America Corporation. From time to time Bank
of America N.T. & S.A. reduced the item set up on

its books to reflect the obligation of Inter-

America Corporation under the three contracts by a
write-up of unrelated assets and by various other
means as set forth below under paragraphs VII to XI,
and XV to XVII, both inclusive.

In the light of the facts set forth, it appears to

the Commission that the items "Reserves For
liability and possible loss under outstanding contract of guaranty" together with the accompanying

Note, Schedule V, and the "Balance Sheet" are
materially misleading:

1. In treating the contracts described and the
obligation of Inter-America Corporation thereunder as a guaranty rather than as a purchase
and sale which should have been recorded by
setting up the assets purchased with a corre.

sponding direct liability for the purchase
price and, in view of the character of the

assets, a reserve for the losses which would

be borne by Inter-America Corporation;

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2.

In that the amount set up as "Reserves for

this obligation does not reflect the true
amount of the liability due nor the possible
losses under the contracts;

3.

In the use of the term "recoveries' in
Schedule V as charges to the "Reserve"
originally set up to cover Inter-America's
obligation under the three contracts, in that
the term "recoveries" falls to indicate and
falsifies the true nature of the reduction of

Inter-America's obligation by conveying the
imprescion of actual cash recoveries on assets
written down, whereas in fact the 'recoveries'
were accomplished by the write-up by Bank of
America N.T. & S.A. of unrelated assets as set
forth below in paragraphs VII to XI and XV to
XVII, both inclusive.
VI.

With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Transamerica
General Corporation as of December 31, 1936 A.

Under the caption "Investments in Securities

of Affiliates" and in Schedule II there is set
forth the figure $8,982,180.20 as the carrying
value of the investment in the capital stock
of Banca d'America e d'Italia.
The Commission has reasonable grounds to be-

lieve that certain restrictions imposed by the
Italian Government upon the transfer of any
profits or other funds from Italy to any other
country materially affects this investment.
It therefore appears to the Commission that it
is materially misleading to set forth the figure
$8,982,180.20 as the carrying value of the investment in the capital stock of Banca d 'America
e d'Italia without indicating the effect that
the restrictions referred to above may have
upon the Investment.

VII.

with respect to the "Combined Report of Condition'
of Bank of America N.T. & S.A., First National Bank
in Reno, Bank of America (California) as of
December 31, 1936
A.

-

The item "Loans and discounts" under "Assets"
and in Schedule E is stated to be $539,899,100.65

This figure includes, among other things, loans
in the amount of $304, 674, 551. 73 on "farm has
lands"
and "other real estate. The Commission

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reasonable grounds to believe that the
item of $539,899,100.65 includes estimated
losses and doubtful accounts aggregating
in excess of $8,000,000 and slow accounts
in excess of $125,000,000 held by Bank of

America N.T.& S.A. Registrant has failed
to disclose these losses, doubtful items
and slow accounts in the Report of Condition" either in Schedule E or elsewhere in
the registration statement, has failed to
provide any reserve for such losses and doubtful accounts, and, in the supplementary data
furnished in accordance with paragraph I(5)
of the Instructions as to Financial Statements
in the Instruction Book for Form 24, has
affirmatively stated that there are no losses
on loans and discounts not provided for.
B.

"United States Government obligations, direct
and/or fully guaranteed and "Other bonds,

stocks and securities" are set forth under

"Assets" and in Schedule F and Schedule G
at $478,019,771.36 and $175.078. 108.60, re.
spectively. The Commission has reasonable

grounds to believe that these items include

United States Government and Municipal securities held by Bank of America N.T.& S. A. which
were written up in 1935 and 1936 to the extent
of approximately $14,000,000 and which at

the date of the "Report of Condition" included
an unrealized appreciation of approximately
$9,000,000. The registrant has failed to
disclose this fact in either Schedule F,
Schedule G, the supplementary data furnished
in accordance with paragraph I(5) of the Instruction Book for Form 24, or elsewhere in

the registration statement,

The only provision for a reserve, captioned
"Reserve for contingencies* is set at

$2,049,928.01. The Commission has reason to

believe that $1,971,058. of this figure is

applicable to Bank of America N.T.& S.A., and

that of this $1,971,058.48 approximately
$1,460,000 is a reserve for se1f-insurance.

The Commission further has reason to believe

that
this reserve is misleading because of its
inadequacy -

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In failing to provide for losses and doubtful
accounts of Bank of America N.T. &.S.A. other
than loans on farm lands' and other real
estate" included in the "Assets" to the extent

of approximately $8,000,000
2.

3.

In failing to provide sufficient reserves for
and "other real estate"

the $304,674. of loans on farm lands"

In failing to provide for losses on real estate

other than bank premises held by 3ank of America

N.T. & S.A. to the extent of approximately
1,600,000;

4.

In failing to provide sufficient depreciation

for bank premises, furniture, and fixtures of Bank
of America N.T. & ..A.:

5.

In failing to provide for losses on bonds and

other securities held by Bank of America N.T.
& S.A. to the extent of approximately $400,000
and for losses on other asset items to the extent
of approximately $300,000
D.

"Undivided profits - net" is set forth at
$22, 503, 612.05 The Commission has reasonable
grounds to believe that this figure is false and
misleading 1.

In that it includes approximately $9,000,000 of
unrealized appreciation resulting from the
$14,000,000 write-up in 1935 and 1936 of United
States and Municipal securities held by Bank of

America N.T. & S.A.:
2.

In failing to include a reserve for losses and
doubtful accounts, losses on real estate, dépreciation of bank premises, furniture and fixtures
of Bank of America N.T. & S.A. and losses on securities and other assets in excess of
$13,000,000

3

In that the total of (1) and (2) would wipe out
that portion of the "Undivided profits - net"
which may be attributed to Bank of America N.T.
& S.A. and would require a reduction of the "surplus" account of Bank of America N.T. & S.A.

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VIII. With respect to the Combined Report of Earnings and
Dividends" for Bank of America N.T. & S.A., First National Bank In Reno and Bank of America (California)
For the year ended December 31, 1935

A.

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1. The items "Recoveries on bonds, stocks and othe

securities" and "Profits on securities sold" ar.

stated to total $14,942,992.67. The Commission
has reason to believe that this figure includes
unrealized appreciation of approximately
$7,000,000 resulting from an approximately
$8,000,000 write-up in 1935 of United/States Gov.
ernment and Municipal securities held by Bank 0
America N.T. & S.A., and, in addition, includes
a substantial amount of unrealized appreciation
resulting from the write-up of certain Transamerica Corporation stock held by Bank of

America N.T. & S.A. as collateral for written
off loans, and that the inclusion of this unrealized appreciation as income is false and

misleading:
2.

The provision for loss and depreciation on "bank

ing house, furniture and fixtures" is set at
lieve that this figure is inadequate;
3. The deficiencies set forth in (1) and (2) are
reflected in the statement of net profits and

$1,055,223.40. The Commission has reason to be.

undivided profits and render these items false
and misleading to an amount in excess of
$7,000,000. It appears that the dividends paid
in 1935 by Bank of America N.T. & S.A. were nor
than $3,500,000 in excess of its actual current

earnings.

B. For the year ended December 31, 1936 1.

The item "Recoveries on bonds, stocks and other

securities' is stated to be $6,309,400.26. The
Commission has reasonable grounds to believe tha
this figure includes unrealized appreciation of

approximately $2,000,000 resulting from a
$6,000,000 write-up in 1936 of United States

Government and Municipal securities held by Ban

of America, N.T. & S.A., and, in addition, in-

cludes a substantial amount of unrealized appre

ciation resulting from the write-up of certain

Transamerica Corporation stock held by Bank of

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America N.T & S.A. as collateral for written
off loans, and that the Inclusion of this unrealized appreciation as income is false and
misleading;

The report of Earnings and Dividends further appears misleading in that no provision from earnings has been made for doubtful accounts and

2.

uncollectible foreign credits held by Bank of
America N.T. & S.A. which the Commission has

reasonable grounds to believe aggregated approxi-

mately $3,700,000;

The provision for losses and depreciation on

3.

"banking house, furniture and fixtures" is set
at $1,082,748.85. The Commission has reasonable
grounds to believe that this figure is inadequate.

4.

The deficiencies set forth in (1). (2) and (3)
are reflected in the statement of net profits

and undivided profits and render these items
false and misleading to an amount in excess of
$6,000,000. It appears that the dividends paid

in 1936 by Bank of America N.T. & S.A. were more

than $1,500,000 in excess of its actual current

earnings.
IX.

With respect to the "Balance Sheet' of California Lands,
Inc
A.

as of December 31. 1936

Schedule VII relating to 'Surplus' sets forth as an
addition to "Earned Surplus" under the caption
"Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate*
the sum of $297,918.26. The accompanying Note

states that this amount represents the excess of re-

alization over the cost to California Lands, Inc. of
an undivided one-half interest in certain notes,
parts of notes, deficiency judgments, etc., theretofore written off on the books of Bank of America
N.T. & S.A. and purchased from the Bank by Inter-

America Corporation and from nter-America Corpora-

tion by California Lands, Inc.

The Commission has reason to believe that certain

facts having a material bearing on this matter are
as follows:

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on February 1, 1933, Bank of America N.T. & S.A.

sold to Corporation of America (both of which

were at this time 99.65% owned by Transamerica
Bank Holding Company, itself a whelly-owned sub-

sidiary of Transamerica Corporation), for a concharged
sideration of $250,000, all of
off assets, including those to be charged off up
to July 1, 1933. This agreement was transferred

for the same consideration to Transamerica General
Corporation and then to Transamerica Bank Holding
Company (both wholly-owned subsidiaries of Transamerica Corporation). On January 2, 1934, Bank
of America N.T. & S.A. sold to Transamerica Bank
Holding Company for a consideration of $50,000 all

of the assets of the Bank charged off from July 1,
1933, to July 1, 1937. At a Special Stockholders

Meeting on April 20. 1935, the name of Transamerica

Bank Holding Company was changed to Inter-America
Corporation.

On October 1, 1936, Inter-America Corporation trans-

ferred the charged off assets covered by the two

Aforementioned agreements to California Lands, Inc.
and Capital Company (both wholly-owned subsidiaries
of Transamerica General Corporation which corporation was 100% owned by Transamerica Corporation)
for an aggregate consideration of $500, 000.

an July 14, 1937, California Lands, Inc. and

Capital Company transferred these same assets less
$1,486,185.87 collected by Inter-America Corporation

(for the account of California Lands, Inc. and

Capital Company) to Bank of America N.T. & S.A. for
a consideration of $6,500,000. Thus, in 1937,
Bank of America N.T. & S.A. paid 36,500,000 for
portion of the same assets which the Bank had
originally sold in 1933 and 1934 for $300,000.
a

As part of this same transaction, Transamerica

Corporation entered into an agreement guaranteeing

the Bank against loss to the extent of $6,500,000

on the charged off assets repurchased.

In the light of the facts set forth above, it ap-

pears to the Commission that the figure $297,918.26
set forth in Schedule VII as "Earned Surplus." under

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the caption "Profit on sale of assets purchased
from affiliate", together with the accompanying
Note, and the inclusion of. this amount in the
"Earned surplus - deficit" in the "Balance Sheet"
are materially misleading.
X.

with respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Capital Company
as of December 31. 1936 -

A.

Schedule VII relating to "Surplus" sets forth as
an addition to "Earned Surplus" as "Profit on sale
of assets purchased from affiliate* the sum of
$297,919.23. The accompanying Note states that
this amount represents the excess of realization
over the cost to Capital Company of an undivided

one-half interest in certain notes, parts of notes,
deficiency judgments, etc. theretofore written

off on the books of Bank of America N.T. & S.A.
and purchased from the Bank by Inter-America Corporation and from Inter-America Corporation by
Capital Company.

In the light of the facts set forth above under paragraph IX-A, it appears to the Commission that the
figure $297,919.23 set forth in Schedule VII as
"Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate*
together with the accompanying Note, and the inclusion of this amount as Earned Surplus" in the
"Balance Sheet" are materially misleading.

It appearing to the Commission that pursuant to Section 13(a) and (b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as

amended, and Rules KA1 and KA2 (now Rules X-13A-1 and X-13A-2)
promulgated by the Commission thereunder, Transamerica Corpora-

tion filed on or about June 27. 1938, its annual report on

Form 24-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 1937, signed

for the Corporation by John M. Grant, President: and

The Commission having reasonable grounds to believe

that said Transamerica Corporation has failed to comply with

the provisions of Section 13(a and (b) of the Securities

Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, the rules, regulations, Form
24-K and the Instructions thereto, promulgated by the Commis-

sion thereunder, in that the annual report on Form 24-K filed
ing statements of material facts including financial statements
of said Transamerica Corporation and its subsidiaries, which
do not correctly reflect the true financial condition of the
Corporation and its subsidiaries, all as hereinafter more par-

by said Transamerica Corporation contains false and mislead

ticularly set forth:

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The false and misleading statements which the Commis-

sion has reasonable grounds to believe exist in the annual
report referred to above being more particularly as follows:
With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Transamerica
XI.
Corporation as of December 31, 1937

A. Note B referring to the items captioned "Marketable Securities" and "Investments in Securities of
Affiliates" states that securities having a market
value of $1,338,835 and investments in securities
of affiliates having a carrying value of $5,636,576.32
were pledged as security "(1) in connection with a
contract of guarantee and (2) on an option to pur-

chase certain securities. Note I referring to "Contingent Liabilities' states that "At December 31,
1937, the Corporation was reported as being contingently liabile [sic] under certain conditions of

contract in the amount of $5, 838, 123. 74.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

1.

that certain additional facts having a material
bearing on the "contract of guarantee' referred
to in Note B are as follows:

In connection with the transactions described
above under paragraph IX-A, in which a portion
of the charged off assets of Bank of America N.T.
&

S. originally sold by the Bank in 1933 and

1934 for an aggregate consideration of $300,000,
were repurchased by the Bank on July 14, 1937,
from California Lands, Inc. and Capital Company
for a consideration of $6,500,000, Transamerica
Corporation entered into an agreement guaranteeing
the Bank against loss to the extent of $6,500,000
on the assets repurchased. The reference in

Notes B and I to a contract of guarantee apparently refers to this agreement.

In the light of the facts set forth above in this

paragraph and in paragraph IX-A, and in the light
of the apparent disparity between the actual
value of the assets repurchased by the Bank and
the amount of recovery guaranteed by Transamerica
Corporation, it appears to the Commission that
Notes B and I and the "Balance Sheet are grossly
inadequate to reflect the nature of Transamerica'
obligation under the contract of guarantee.

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The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that certain additional facts having a material
bearing on the "option to purchase certain securi.

ties referred to in Note B are as follows:

In July, 1937, Bank of America N.T. & S.A. purof stock of National City Bank at the then market

chased from Transamerica Corporation 56,600 share

price of $48 per share. It appears that the stock

purchased was set up on the books of Bank of
America N.T. & S.h. at $2,716,800, the purchase
price, and that payment was made by crediting
$2,710,800 to Inter-America Corporation to reduce
by that abount the balance of the $35,214,000 ob-

ligation originally undertaken by Inter-America
Corporation under the circumstances set forth in
paragraph V-A. As part of the contract of purchase and sale of National City Bank stock, Trans
america Corporation agreed to repurchase the

stock at $48 per share over a period of 5 years
at the rate of 11,320 shares each year, and
pledged an additional blook of 8,400 shares to
secure this agreement. It further appears that

on December 31, 1937, the market value of National
City Bank stock was approximately $27 per share.

The reference in Note B to an option to purchase

certain securities' apparently relates to this
transaction.

It appears to the Commission that the foregoing
transaction was a device employed in an attempt
to reduce or eliminate the balance of the obligation originally undertaken by Inter-America. Corporation, and that the designation and treatment

of this transaction as an "option" and the failure
to disclose the additional information set forth

above and the circumstances surrounding this
transaction render Notes B and I and the "Balance

B.

Sheet materially misleading.
In Schedule VIII the figure $444,000 is set forth as
a charge to "Paid-In Surplus." in 1937 under the caption "Contribution to Associated American Distributors (Incorporated) in connection with redistribution

of capital stock.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe that
this amount represents commissions and other monies
of

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paid by transamerica Corporation to Associated
American Distributors, Inc., (then a wholly-owned
subsiditry of Inter-Continental Corporation which
was a /lly-owned subsidiary of Transamerica
General Corporation, itself a wholly-owned subsidiary of transamerica Corporation) in connection with
the ac. vities described above in paragraph III-A,

In the light of the facts and for the reasons set
forth above in paragraph III-A, it appears to the

CORE ssion that registrant's treatment of this item
ren. JTS the "Balance Sheet" and Schedule VIII
materially misleading.
XII.

with respect to the "Profit and Loss Statement* of
Transamerica Corporation

A.

-

In Schedule VIII the figure $444,000 is set forth
as a charge to "Paid-In Surplus' in 1937 under the
caption "Contribution to Associated American
Distributors (Incorporated) in connection with re-

distribution of capital stock.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe
that this amount represents commissions and other
monies paid by Transamerica Corporation to Associ-

ated American Distributors, Inc., (then a whollyowned subsidiary of Inter-Continental Corporation

which was a wholly-owned subsidiary of Transamerica

General Corporation, itself a wholly-owned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation) in connection with
the activities described above in paragraph III-A.

In the light of the facts and for the reasons set
forth in paragraph III-A, it appears to the Commission that registrant's treatment of this item
renders the "Profit and Loss Statement" and Schedule

XIII,

VIII materially misleading.

With respect to the "Balance Sheet' of Inter-America

Corporation as of June 30, 1937
A.

Under the caption "Reserves - For liability and
possible loss under outstanding contract of
guaranty", and in Schedule VI relating to additions and charges to "Reserves", there is set forth
the figure $8,561,099.82.

In the light of the facts set forth above
under paragraph V-A, it appears to the Commission that the items "Reserves - For liability
and possible loss under outstanding contract

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of guaranty", Schedule VI, and the "Balance
Sheet" are materially misleading:

In treating the contracts described in paragraph
V-A and the obligation of Inter-America Corporation thereunder as a guaranty rather than as a

1.

purchase and sale which should have been recorde.

by setting up the assets purchased with a corres-

ponding, direct liability for the purchase price,
and, in view of the character of the assets, a
reserve for the losses which would be borne by
Inter-America Corporation;
In that the amount set up as "Reserves" for this

2.

obligation does not reflect the true amount of
the liability due nor the possible losses under
the contracts:

3.

XIV.

In the use of the term "recoveries" in Schedule
VI as charges to the "Reserves" originally set
up to cover Inter-America's obligation under the
three contracts, in that such term fails to indi.
cate the true nature of the reduction of Interm
America's obligation.

With respect to the Balance Sheet" of Transamerica General Corporation as of December 31. 1937 A.

Under the caption "Investments in Securities of

Affiliates - Banks" there is set forth the figure
$9,374,148.06 In Schedule II it is stated that
the investment in the capital stock of Banca
d' America e d' 'Italia is carried on the balance
sheet at the amount of $8,982,321.85

In the light of the facts set forth above under
paragraph VI-A, it appears to the Commission that
it is materially misleading to set forth the

figure $8,982. 321.85 as the carrying value of the
investment in the capital stock of Banca d'America
e d'Italia without indicating the effect that the
restrictions referred to in paragraph VI-A may
have upon this investment.

XV.

With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of California Dands,
Inc as of December 31, 1937

A. Schedule IX relating to Surplus' sets forth as an

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addition to Earned Surplus* under the caption
"Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate"
the sum of $3,595,120.54. The accompanying Note
states that of this amount $348,120.54 represents
the excess of realization over the cost to California
Lands, Inc. of an undivided one-half interest in cer.
tain notes, parts of notes, deficiency judgments,
etc., theretofore written off on the books of Bank
of

America N.T. & S.A. and purchased from the Bank

by Inter-America Corporation and from Inter-America

Corporation by California Lands, Inc., and that the

remaining $3,250,000 represents the share of California Lands, Inc. in $6,500,000, which on July 14,
1937, Bank of America N.T. & S.A. agreed to pay to
California Lands, Inc. and Capital Company for the

right to future recoveries on these same assets.
The Note further states that in connection with this

purchase Transamerica Corporation entered into an
agreement whereby it guaranteed that the Bank would
recover the amount of $6,500,000 at an annual rate

of $1,300,000.

In the light of the facts set forth above under

paragraph IX-A, It appears to the Commission that
the figure 33,595,120.54 set forth in Schedule IX as
"Earned Surplus" under the caption "Profit on sale

of assets purchased from affiliate" together with
the accompanying Note, and the inclusion of this
amount as "Earned Surplus in the "Balance Sheet"
are materially misleading.

XVI.

With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Capital Company
as of December 31, 1937 -

A.

Schedule IX relating to "Surplus" sets forth as an
addition to "Earned Surplus" under the caption
"Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate"
the sum of $3,595,119.56. The accompanying Note
states that of this amount $345. .119.56 represents

the excess of realization over the cost to. Capital
Company of an undivided one-half interest in certain

notes, parts of notes, deficiency judgments, etc.,
theretofore written off on the books of Bank of

America N.T. & S.A. and purchased from the Bank by
Inter-America Corporation and from Inter-America
Corporation by Capital Company, and that the remainIng $3,250,000 represents the share of Capital Company in 86,500,000 which on July 14, 1937, Bank of

America N.T. & S.A. agreed to pay to California
Lands, Inc. and Capital Company for the right to
future recoveries on these same assets. The Note further states that in connection with this purchase Transamerics

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Corporation entered into an agreement whereby it
guaranteed that the Bank ,would recover the amount

of $6,500,000 at annual rate of $1,300,000.

In light of the facts set forth above under

paragraph IX-A it appears to the Commission that
the figure $3,595 119.56 set forth in Schedule

IX as Earned Surplus' under the caption Profit
on sale of assets purchased from affiliate" toRether with the accompanying Note, and the inclusion
of this amount as "Earned Surplus in the "Balance
Sheet" are materially hisleading.
The Commission having reasonable grounds to believe

that Transamerica Corporation has failed 00 comply with the
provisions of Section 12(b) and Section 13(a) and (b) of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, the rules, regulations, Form 24, Form 24-K and the Instructions thereto,
promulgated by the Commission thereunder, in that the application for registration on Form 24, the annual report on Form
24-K and the amendments thereto filed by said Transamerica
Corporation contain financial statements of Transamerica
Corporation and its subsidiaries, which do not correctly

reflect the true financial condition of Transamerica Corporation and its subsidiaries, as hereinafter more particularly
set forth:

XVII

It appears to the Commission that the general policy
of Transamerica Corporation and its subsidiaries with
respect to the manner of creation and treatment of
certain reserves", and the adequacy thereof, is improper in the following respects:
In the elimination of "reserves" on the books of
certain companies and the creation of fictitious
A.

reserves" in similar or substantially similar

amounts on the books of other companies in the

Transamerica group for the purpose of utilizing
such reserves" to absorb losses with consequent

distortion of the true financial condition of
the separate corporate entities and of the entire
group as a whole: in particular, with respect to
the reserves set up on the "Balance Sheets" of

Transamerica General Corporation as of December

31, 1936, and December 31, 1937, for real estate

losses and contingencies of controlled affiliates'

in the amounts of $6,861,814.19 in 1936 and
$1,700,050.22 in 1937, and $5,034,583.95 in 1936
and $1,168,002.25 in 1937, for Capital Company

and California Lands, Inc., respectively;

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In that the amount of the reserves provided on the

books of the various companies in the Transamerica

group is materially inadequate; in particular, the
"Combined Report of Condition" of Bank of America

N.T. & S.A., First National Bank in Reno; and
Bank of America (California) as of December 31,

1936. shows "Loans and discounts" in the amount of
$539,899,100.65 which includes, among other things,
loans in the amount of $304. 674,551.73 on "farm

lands" and "other real estate". The only reserve
in this "Combined Report of Condition" is designated
as "Reserve for contingencies" and is set forth
at $2,049,928.01 of which approximately $1,460,000

is a reserve for self-insurance, leaving a balance
of $589,928.01. In its "Balance Sheet" as of

December 31, 1936, Capital Company carried "Real

Estate Held for Resale, at $51,379,652.11 which

amount represented "Land, Buildings and Improvements*

and as of the same date, California Lands, Inc.
carried "Real Estate and Equipment Held for Resale"

at $31,357,098.76, which amount included "Land,
Buildings and Improvements* at $31,335,825.76,
with no reserve on the books of either company

applicable to such assets. As of the same date,

Occidental Life Insurance Company (a wholly owned
subsidiary of Transamerica General Corporation,

itself a wholly owned subsidiary of Transamerica

Corporation) showed on its books "mortgage loans

on real estate" and "balance due on property sold

under contract" in the amounts of $8, 175, 516.57

and $3,956,986.03, respectively, with no reserves
applicable thereto. These various items of loans,
discounts, and investments in real estate aggregate
$634,668,354.12 against which there is an aggregate
reserve of but $589,928.01.

In that because of the nature of the "reserves"
referred to above under A, It was improper to charge.
losses and expenses against such ?reserves";

D.

In the treatment of losses and expenses which were
not present at the date of a readjustment of account$
but resulted from events occurring subsequent thereto

as charges to certain reserves created at the time

of such readjustment.

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It further appears to the Commission that registrant,
in its application for registration on Form 24 and in
its annual report for 1937 on Form 24-K, has failed

XVIII.

to file financial statements for itself and its subsidiaries certified in accordance with the requirements
of paragraph II of the Instructions as to Financial
Statements in the Instruction Books for Form 24 and
Form 24-K, respectively.

It being the opinion of the Commission that the hearing
herein ordered to be made is necessary and proper in the public

interest and to aid in the enforcement of the provisions of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended;

IT IS ORDERED, pursuant to Section 19(a)(2) of said Act,
that a public hearing be held to determine whether Transamerica
Corporation has failed to comply with Section 12(b) and Section
13(a) and (b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as
amended, the rules, regulations and forms promulgated by the
Commission thereunder, in the respects set forth above: and if

so, whether it is necessary or appropriate for the protection
of investors to suspend for a period not exceeding twelve
months or to withdraw the registration of said Corporation's
Capital Stock, $2 par value, on said New York Stock Exchange,

Los Angeles Stock Exchange and San Francisco Stock Exchange:
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, pursuant to the provisions of

Section 21 (bb of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as
amended, that for the purposes of such hearing, Henry Fitts,

an officer of the Commission, is hereby designated to ad-

minister oaths and affirmations, subpoena witnesses, compel

their attendance, take evidence, and require the production
of any books, papers, correspondence, memoranda, or other
records deemed relevant or material to the inquiry, and to
perform all other duties in connection therewi th authorized
by law;

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the taking of testimony in

this hearing begin on the 16th day of January, 1939, at 10:00

A.M. in Room 1101, Securities and Exchange Commission Building,
1778 Pennsylvania Avenue, N. W., Washington, D.C. and continue

thereafter at such time and place as the officer hereinbefore
designated may determine.
By the Commission.

Francis P. Brassor,
Secretary.

(SEAL)

000

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November 23, 1938.

RE TRANS-AMERICA CORPORATION

4:30 P. M.

S. E. C's. SHOW-CAUSE ORDER.

Office of Under Secretary
Hanes

Present:

Mr. Hanes

Mr. Oliphant
Mr. Taylor
Mr. Gaston

Mr. Duffield
Mr. Foley

Mr. Young

Mr. Preston Delano - Comptroller's Office

Mr. C. B. Upham - Comptroller's Office
Mr. W. P. Folger - Comptroller's
Office
S. E. C.
Mr. Chester Lane Mr. Marriner Eccles - F. R. B.
Mr. Ronald Ransom - F. R. B.
Mr. S. H. Husbands - R. F. C.
Mr. C. B. Henderson - R. F. C.

Mr. J. G. Nichols - F. D. I. C.

Hanes:

The Secretary asked us to have this meeting.
He was sorry he couldn't be here, but he wanted
to acquaint everybody here with the fact that
the S. E. C. have decided to issue a "Show-Cause
Order" against the Trans-America Corporation, to
show cause why that Trans-America stock should

not be delisted from the New York, San Francisco,
and Los Angeles Exchanges.

We've got a copy here of this order; it is going

to be issued on Friday afternoon. Our understanding

is, it is going to be issued at three o'clock,

our time, and served on the Trans-America Corporation.

It was to acquaint you with that fact, to tell you

what was in the order, and then to take up with
the question of whether or not - and this comes
you from the President to Bill Douglas - to have us

explore here the question as to whether or not
statement should be issued by some agency

some the Government, or by some individual, bearing

of

upon the financial condition of the bank itself.

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against the Trans-America Corporation, going to

produce any ill effect upon the bank itself,
cause any undue alarm, or any run on the banks,
or anything of the kind? The President was of
the opinion, and expressed that opinion to Bill

Douglas, that someone should be prepared to make

some statement, in his opinion. However, he wanted
this group of people to explore that possibility
and to decide and advise on that particular

question.

Now, before we get to that, just so that you will

have some idea of the extent of this order, we
have analyzed the order pretty carefully and we
have picked out of that order all the things which
have a bearing upon the bank itself. The charges
made against the Trans-America Corporation are well, Chester, you check me up on this and tell
me where I am getting off the path. I am reading
from pencil notes from the side of the order.
They charge the Corporation with issuing false
and misleading statements; of the omission of
material facts in their statements which they

have given to the S. E. C.; a failure to disclose
certain payments to Mr. A. P. Giannini, amounting
to a million four hundred thousand dollars; certain

balance sheet irregularities; that the Trans-America
Corporation paid large sums of money to whollyowned subsidiaries for payment for the distribution

of its own stock, that - that is, in that those

payments were charged to "paid-in surplus" account,

and not taken from the current "profit" account.

The total amount paid to those subsidiaries from
1934, through 1936, amounted to two million three
hundred fifty one thousand dollars. That made the
profit and loss statement of those subsidiaries
false and misleading; that the Bank Examiners
Lane:
Hanes:

It is the profit and loss statement of Trans-

America that is misleading and not the subsidiaries.

Yes, the Trans-America. that the Bank

Examiners caused to be written off, about thirtyfive million dollars worth of assets of the bank,

and that the Bank then turned around and sold these

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value. In this particular transaction they charge
them with a lot of fancy bookkeeping they haven't
been able to balance or understand. They charge

them with failing to disclose certain investments
certain restrictions were placed upon those investments in Italy, and restrictions upon the transfer
of any profits from Italy, or any other country,
which materially affects that investment.

in Italy - ah, no, the failure to disclose that

They charge them with a lack of reserve for losses
on real estate, etc.; the write-up of Government

securities of fourteen million dollars, and taking
that fourteen million dollars into current profits.

Delano:

That is the Bank now?

Hanes:

No, I am skipping over those bank items; I am
separating them and will tell them separately.
I will tell about the Bank itself, running through
the whole order.

They included this unrealized appreciation as
income; they paid dividends in 1935 of more than

3 million dollars in excess of their earnings;
that the Bank sold to its parents certain of the

Bank's assets which have been charged off, the
total sum of three hundred thousand dollars in
1933 and 134; that in 1936 those parents in turn
sold those same assets to two more subsidiaries

for five/thousand dollars, and in 1937, that the
back, or a portion of those assets, for six and a

Bank itself turned around and bought those assets

half million dollars.
The balance of the order refers, in different
years, to practically the same thing; it's a good
deal of reiteration of those same things. They
are the high spots in the charges. It is about
a twenty-page document, and anyone here is at
liberty to read that.

Lane:

Hanes:

Perhaps the lack of reserves in the Bank is one

of the important things - real estate assets.
I didn't touch on that because that deals with

the Bank itself. I left that for the last.

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-4The important question we ought to determine here

at this meeting is whether or not this thing is
going to cause some difficulty, and I'll report to

you a conversation which I had with Mr. Jesse
Jones, and tell you what his thoughts are.
"The following facts about the Bank of America
which are mentioned in the Securities and Exchange
Commission order against Trans-America Corporation,
are noted by the Commission not as direct criticisms of the Bank but as facts which make the
reports of the Bank's parent, Trans-America Corporation, misleading.

"Page 5 The Bank is said to have sold to an

affiliate certain 'loss and doubtful

assets for a face amount of $35,214,000.
"Pages 6 The Bank is said to have reduced the

and 7 amount due it from the affiliate under
the above sale by a write-up of unrelated assets. 1

"Page 8 The Bank is said to have had in 1936
$8,000,000 of 'losses and doubtful
accounts and $125,000,000 of 'slow
accounts' among its real estate assets
and to have made insufficient reserve

provisions for real estate losses.

"Pages 8 The Bank is said to have included
and 9 $9,000,000 of unrealized bond write-up
in its 1935-36 earnings and to have

failed to provide for security and
other losses exclusive of real estate

losses amounting to $700,000.

"Page 9 Elimination of the unrealized bond writeup and allowance for losses mentioned
above, which are said to aggregate
$13,000,000, would, according to the

order, 'wipe out' the undivided profits
of the Bank and 'require a reduction
in the Bank's surplus.

"Page 10 The Bank is said to have included unrealized
write-up of Government bonds and of TransAmerica stock in its 1935 earnings and to
have made insufficient depreciation charges;

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as a result of these and other facts
the Bank is said to have paid dividends
in 1935 which were more than $3,500,000
in excess of actual earnings.
"Pages 10
and 11

The Bank is said to have included
unrealized write-up of Government
bonds and Trans-America stock in its
1936 earnings, to have made no provision from earnings for $3,700,000 of

'uncollectible foreign credits,

and to have made insufficient deprecia-

tion charges; as a result of these
and other facts the Bank is said to

have paid dividends in 1936 which were
more than $1,500,000 in excess of

actual earnings.
I thought that was three and a half million in
excess of actual earnings.

Duffield:

That is the previous year, Mr. Hanes.

Hanes:

"Pages 11, The Bank is said to have repurchased
12, 13,
14, 18

in 1937 for $6,500,000 a portion of

certain 'charged off! assets which it
had sold to an affiliate in 1933
and 1934 for $300,000; Trans-America

is said to guarantee the payment of

the $6,500,000.
"Page 15

The Bank is said to have purchased from
Trans-America, subject to a repurchase
agreement, 56,600 shares of National
City Bank stock at $48 per share, and

the order notes that the market price

of the stock on December 31, 1937, was
$27 per share.
"Page 20

The inadequacy of reserves against the

Bank's real estate assets, which
together with real estate assets of
related banks are placed at $529,899,100,
is again asserted.

"The order nowhere states or strongly implies
insolvency of the Bank or inability to meet

depositors' demands."

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-6Now, to get the whole story before you, so that
you willknow everything that we know, I called
Mr. Jones on the phone, in Texas, and it was his
suggestion and I told him that I was going to
repeat this to you gentlemen here - it was his
suggestion that he would like to see the S. E. C.
delete from its order, as much as was possible of
any information concerning the Bank itself; that
he didn't see that that would add to the order and
that he thought it would be somewhat dangerous.
That was his curbstone opinion, and he would

like to have that thought conveyed. He said, at
the same time, that if it was - he felt it was
his place to do so, and if we wanted him to do
so he would be prepared to make a statement
concerning the Bank, because he knew about its

ability to pay depositors, etc., etc.; that he

would be in Houston and we could get in touch
with him Friday morning and he would be glad to

make whatever statement deemed wise or expedient.

I think that covers the conversation with Mr. Jones.
Upham:

Have I left anything unsaid, Cy?
Not that I know of.

Hanes:

Chester, anything else you want to add to that,
from S. E. CIS. standpoint?

Lane:

No, except I may point out our approach in this
order is an approach to misleading statements
rather than an attack on Trans-America. TransAmerica has included in its statements, filed with
us, financial statements of the Bank, and we have
made charges of misleading statements in those
financial statements, because they are part of the
Trans-America registration with us, and I believe
that may have been understood anyhow.

Eccles:

The S. E. C. has some discretion as to matters of

this sort; that is, as to whether or not the
action, have they not? After all, it is a question
of discretion on the part of the S. E. C.
facts are such as to feel obligated to take such

Lane:

That is the case.

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7Eccles:

The S. E. C. is an agent of the Government, charged,

of course, with public interest. Therefore, it is

a question of balancing, I suppose, the matter of
public interest, represented by - in which they
undertake to protect, through this action, against
the question of public interest if a banking run

should be started as a result of this action. Is
it possible, at this time, for the Commission to

consider getting the Trans-America to voluntarily
delist and to take up with them the questions

involved in this public - this is, I understand
it will be public and will be published, will it

not?
Hanes:

Yes, it will be published, I understand, at five

Eccles:

The point is, has it been all determined that
this is the only procedure that can be taken by

o'clock Friday afternoon. These orders are given
out in mimeographed form to the press, I understand.
the S. E. C.?

Hanes:

Lane:

You mean whether S. E. C. should issue any order

at this time?

The question has been one which has been debated

by the Commission, at intervals, for relatively
two or three years, and the Commission has
seriously considered the question you speak of.

I can assure you it has considered it. I hesitate
to speak on the policy of the Commission, but if
it is the opinion of the group that it should be,
I expect it could be reconsidered. But it has

been considered.
Eccles:

It is true, is it not, if it is - if it is a matter

of purely - of having the stock delisted, that
that could be accomplished voluntarily if the

Trans-America people would voluntarily delist,
and the influences - effect upon the bank would
be very different than possibly the influences
otherwise?

Lane:

They can delist; they do so in compliance with
the rules of the Exchanges. The Commission has
no discretion except to impose conditions upon
the delisting. The Commission has had a substantial
amount of correspondence with Trans-America about

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-8these, a large portion of the specific deficiencies

referred to here, not, I believe, all of them,

and that correspondence has not been particularly
successful with Security amendments. So far as
I know there has been no consideration given to

suggesting to Trans-America that it delist, and
my guess is that it would reject the suggestion.
I can not be sure of that, but the importance of
having an exchange market in collateral value of
stock is so great I don't believe it would back
out without a fight.
Eccles:

I was wondering that if - if - if they had been
given the opportunity, without this action being

taken first - if the Commission had given them
every opportunity to meet the requirement before

taking an action as serious as this action is,
if - if what the Commission wants is delisting,
and the action is brought for the purpose of securing delisting, it would seem fit would seem that
before action is taken that - that they should be
advised of the desire of the Commission that they
delist.
Lane:

There is something a little more than that.

Hanes:

There is something a good deal deeper.

Lane:

Even from the Commission's standpoint of view,

entirely apart from the delisting, the Commission

has had on its public records now for many months,
perhaps two years, statements upon which people
have presumed to have relied in the purchase and

sale of Trans-America stock, and even if there

were a delisting at this time, I am sure the
Commission would feel very seriously concerned at
dodging its responsibility to point out to the
public where those statements upon which a

reliance had been placed, at that time, were
misleading.

Eccles:

If this has been going on for two years, what
position is the Commission in by waiting for a
period of two years?

Lane:

They have been conducting an investigation to find
the facts adequate to support an order. We have

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-9had people out there in the past, and have just
gotten in a report which made the Commission feel
it couldn't delay longer than it has before issuing the order.
Eccles:

In other words, the Commission feels that the
facts are now such that they have no other course,
if they follow what they interpret to be their
obligation in accordance with the intent of

Congress?
Lane:

Eccles:

Delano:

Eccles:
Delano:

That is right, yes.
Now, the question is the effect that this thing
is likely to have upon the Bank. It would seem
that the - if the one agency of the Government S. E. C. - feels that in the matter of - that it
is their duty to proceed along this line in order
to protect the public interest, that it may also
be well for the other agencies of the Government,
particularly the Comptroller's Office, to be prepared, if extensive runs should develop, to protect
the public in that instance.
You mean the right person there, for the Comptroller's

Office.

I'd be willing to take a chance.
Better include the F. D. I. C. there.

Oliphant:

Yes, better bring in the F. D. I. C.
Yes, F. D. I. C., F. R. B., and the R. F. C.

Eccles:

That's already been taken care of; that is a

Hanes:

Henderson:

The R. F. C. has no loans there at present.

matter of mechanics already set up. What I was

thinking of is the extent of the thing, of this

sort, whether it is merely a question of rediscounting; it can take care of a temporary
situation; it can't - the situation can not be
taken care of if there is a question of confidence
being lost to such an extent that - that people
just withdraw their funds. The survival of this
institution as a going, profitable concern depends
upon the redemption of its deposits. It can't
survive, it seems to me, in a manner that would be

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- 10 a protection to the tens of thousands of stockholders and possibly even the depositors, the
larger ones, except it is able to maintain the
general public influence and do a profitable
business and retain its deposits. Merely the

providing of the discount facilities doesn't
meet the permanent problem that is involved.
It is a question of
Oliphant:

That's the reason I mentioned R. F. C. also.

Henderson:

That's all right.

Eccles:

It is a question of the Comptroller's Office,
when a situation of this sort has developed in
the past, has set up conservatories in order to
maintain a status quo until such time the panic
blew over, or until such time they could create

management and put in management, and in the mean-

time the R. F. C. could provide the necessary
capital. Under such a management the R. F. C.
could make it known that the facilities - the

facilities for rediscounting were available, but
while they - if this should don't say that it
will; we are merely here for discussing it - it
seems to me the possibility - the probability, and
the desire of - if the panic situation should
develop, then if, of being prepared to maintain,
so far as possible, the status quo, until such a
time the whole setup could be revamped and capital
put in, and that can be done, of course, by - by
a conservatory.

Delano:

It might be well to have Mr. Folger give you a
preliminary picture of the figures here in order
to arrive - I imagine one of the things we have
to arrive at here is some private investigation
as to what is going to happen in case this order
becomes public. One of the things that is dif-

ficult to arrive at is (speaking very low)

if some way can be developed to meet withdrawals,

and how far we might go. Mr. Folger, I think, has
a pretty good preliminary picture in his mind of
the deposit liabilities, how many loans can be

realized quickly, and how much cash can be realized

quickly against those, and the possibilities in
that direction. We have been discussing that
this afternoon as to whether - what this thing
would precipitate in the way of withdrawal of

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- 11 money, and what the Bank would do with the

various agencies disposals.

Oliphant:

How much
of Trans-America stock is owned by or
pledged
with

Folger:

(Interposing) Not a great deal of that.

Lane:

Forty-two per cent of the Trans-America stock.

Oliphant:

How much Trans-America stock is owned by or

Delano:

Fifty or sixty million. You are going to have
a
(word misunderstood - speaking low) on Friday,
I think.

Eccles:

I would think so.

Delano:

Something is going to happen if the price of

pledged with the others.

nine or ten dollars sinks in the

Oliphant:

That would cost the Bank of America how much?

Folger:
Delano:

Twelve to fifteen million dollars.
It would wipe out half of that.

Folger:

The Bank, in its most recent report, September 28,

Bank Deposits,
million
dollars. a billion three hundred thirty
Husbands:

How much has the Bank got now?

Folger:

Around seventy million dollars.
Around seventy million.

Hanes:

Folger:

Including bank balances due to banks, it is a

billion three hundred thirty million. They have

United States Government bonds, four hundred four
million; Cash on Hand and balances in other banks,
and reserve with the Federal Reserve Bank, two

hundred thirty million, which makes six hundred
thirty-four million dollars; they've got a hundred
ten million of sound municipal bonds, making seven

hundred forty four million.

I'd say the Bank, by drawing its reserve, could

pay forty per cent of its deposits.

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- 12 Eccles:

What?

Folger:

Around forty per cent.

Eccles:

A great bulk of those bonds are pledged for public

Folger:

funds, aren't they - city, county, state, and
Federal? If they are not available for
No, no; not all available.

Eccles:

What percentage, what total, that is in liquidation, that if the bank is going to close and
liquidate,
but - but it - but from the standpoint
of
these funds?

Folger:

I'll admit it wouldn't be good for the Bank to

have to pay out that much money.
Eccles:

These securities you refer to are not available
for borrowing to meet the shrinking deposits
except as the public deposits which these securities

are back of, see.
Folger:

They are not up to secure borrowed money; they are

Hanes:

Have you got a break-down to tell you how many of
those bonds are pledged against actual deposits?

Folger:

About one half of the Governments are pledged.

Eccles:

How much is that?

Folger:

Two hundred fourteen million.

Husbands:

How much of the municipal?

Folger:

Four hundred four.

Oliphant:

Have any discountable paper?

Folger:

Oh yes. I wouldn't know how much; I haven't
included that.

Upham:

All of their good assets are discountable.

Eccles:

Not discountable.

to secure public deposits, that billion three hundred thirty million dollars.

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- 13 Oliphant:

That
is in that over-all figure he gave you.
Short term.

Delano:

The point I wanted to bring out was - I don't
know whether this is pertinent to the discussion,

but it seems to me it is important to know how
much these other agencies, and the F. D. I. C.

for help, and, of course, I am - I am - I'd
like, if I may, Mr. Hanes, I'd like to have the

opinion of you gentlemen who are bankers, close

to the banking picture, as to what could be expected

in the way of a run on this institution as a
result of this action. I imagine the S. E. C.

must have considered that.
Lane:

It has had before it many opinions, and I think
the S. E. C. - and I can't go beyond saying it is
quite possible. The fact that the Bank of America
and the Trans-America are tied in to each other,
people who are holders of Trans-America stock
or depositors - stockholders and depositors are the little fellows on the street corner, who,
if they are concerned about one, they are likely
to be concerned about the other, not knowing the
difference between the two.

Delano:

What do you think?

alone;

Eccles:

It doesn't involve the Bank of America it concerns
about half the state of Oregon, or the First
National Bank of Oregon, which has branches through
the entire state; the same thing is true in Washington, to a little less degree. It involves
practically all the resources of the state of
Nevada, and a large portion of the resources of
the state of Arizona.

Lane:

Is it a fact, from the psychological point of
view, they are equally tied together?
Oh yes; the whole thing will come into the picture.
The possibilities are very difficult to see. It
may be the general feeling that because of F. D. I. C.
and increased facilities of the Reserve System,
and the R. F. C., it may be that this wouldn't be as
serious as otherwise would be the case. Again, wi th
this particular institution it has the public's
business, as any institution does. It is almost

Eccles:

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primarily a savings institution, and it is the

little fellow that does business with them, because
they have taken care of him in a manner that no

other type of institution has - the little fellow.
They have gone into, very extensively, personal
loans, in all types of installment credit, and the

Federal Housing mortgages, the loans - direct loans

to industry, etc. They have gone into that end
of it in a manner that puts them particularly
close to the average person, and they therefore
have a great number of accounts in relation to
the volume of business. They are a huge institu-

tion, but they are huge not so much because of a
lot of big accounts but they are huge because they
have such a great number of depositors.
Henderson: How many branch banks are there in California?
Eccles:

Oh, four hundred something.

Taylor:

What percentage of the deposits are insured, of the
total deposit of that Bank?

Folger:

Seven hundred million.

Eccles:

Well, that shows how many little accounts they've
got.

Taylor:

Yeah.

Eccles:

It is teriffic. Now, I wouldn't - I wouldn't be

so much concerned about the ability of possibly
meeting a run, because - because the depositor

that has less than five thousand dollars is not

going to be as much stirred; some of them might

even then might say, "I don't want to wait to get
my money," and still take it out, but there is,
of course, a possibility of the big accounts, the
bigger accounts moving up. In fact, I understand
that some of them are already moving out; that
there has been enough discussion with reference

to this whole picture, some of them are already

moving
out. I haven't verified that; I just heard
that
Now, with the facilities of the Governmental
agen :ies, the prospect of a bank having to close,

I - - I think are extremely remote. I don't
thin : that this necessarily. - I don't believe

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that is in the picture. It can meet a very great

withdrawal and run, but the question is where are
they when that has happened? They - they are in

a far - they are far less able then to - to meet
the situation than they are before the run; that
if - if their business is lost to such an extent
that their earning possibility is very greatly
impaired that the public confidence in them is
greatly impaired, then you have left a shell
to.build on. You are - what do you want to ac-

complish? Do you protect the stockholder of
Trans-America or the stockholders of the Bank
by reducing its - the value of the assets back
of both of them? Do you protect the public by
a procedure that greatly impairs or reduces the

ability of the institution to protect the depositor
itself?

I recognize the problem has existed with reference
to the management, with reference to the Bank not

retaining its earnings, or the Trans-America not
retaining the earnings, paying the earnings out,
but all of these other factors do seem to me to
be - we should take into consideration in this
situation. The question is, if you have the run
and meet the thing, you have still got the same
set-up out there; you have still got the same
management. What have you accomplished? What
has been accomplished through this procedure?

Duffield:
Eccles:

Isn't it fair to say we don't stop here; there
are other things in the fire.
Yes, I - I - I realize that, but where do you
stop then? I mean, I don't know of anything in
the fire that tends to get at the solution of the
problem.

Hanes:

I would assume that the bridge had been crossed.

What we are dealing here with is not what the S. E. C.
ought to do or could do. The only one question

we've got to think about is, the S. E. C. has
already voted to go ahead with this order; they
see what their duty is and they feel they are on
the right foot when they go ahead. It seems to

me the point that Mr. Jones brought up might be
explored to see whether or not the order could be
written in such a way as not to cast too many

doubts upon the institution, or the Bank itself.

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And then, having crossed that bridge, if they can't
change the order, the order is going ahead; it
is going ahead on Friday afternoon. The question
we've got to decide is the one which the President
has asked Bill Douglad to explore, and that is

whether or not someone, or some agency, or some
group, should be prepared to make a statement

and if so, what kind of a statement should they

make?

Lane:

I may comment on your second suggestion about the

revision of the form of the order. I assume that
the Commission would consider that. I think there
are two important considerations. One is that

when a proposed program has become known to as

many people as this one has, it begins to be learned

about a little bit. We know that - we know that
some of the newspapermen already know what is

going on. Where they got the information we do

not know. It is pretty dangerous to delay since
it's gone this far. The second, the fact, from
the point of view of confidence and the point of

view of the public, the Bank of America and TransAmerica are so closely identified makes me wonder

where a revision of the order - whether an attack
on the Trans-America wouldn't have precisely the
same affect on the Bank, as an attack on the Bank
would have on Trans-America. Those are very

important considerations. Whether any revision
or whether it could be reconsidered.

in the order could be effected, I can't say,

Ransom:

I think it is extremely difficult to foresee what

the consequences may be. I think we are dealing
in somewhat of a new field. The laws which have
been passed since the Banking Holiday are so far
reaching that we have yet to see an experiment

tried, to see to what extent they contain public
think all of us recognize the thumb (?) of the

confidence in an institution of this kind. I

temperamental peculiarities of the management of

this particular institution, and we are not stretch-

ing our imagination when we think there may be some

excitement, both internally and externally, as the

result of such an order as this.

So far as the public interest is concerned, what
disturbs my own thinking is the fact that the
Comptroller, primarily, the other agencies that

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- 17 are here, have got to consider the rights of the

depositors.

Now we are assuming that this bank can pay itself

down, I believe Mr. Folger said, to about sixty
per cent of its deposits. Well, Mr. Eccles
stated that he didn't think that necessarily
meant that the Bank would have to close. I am
going to draw it in as gloomy a view as we can,

and see where we'd come out. Assuming we had

such a run and pay off forty per cent of its
deposits, the remaining sixty per cent would, I
think, in the light of these statements made
here this afternoon, be extremely doubtful. It
is a duty on the part of all of us to consider
what action is to be taken in an emergency such
as this, to keep all of these depositors on an
equal footing. I assume S. E. C. has considered
the question of trying to keep all the stockholders
and the depositors on an equal footing. These

banking agencies seem to me to be confronted on
the other side of the book; namely, how do we

keep all of these depositors on equal footing?

We can't do it by letting the Bank pay out all
its cash, dis- - sell its bonds, discountable
paper, borrow what we can from R. F. C., and then
take a look at it and find about where it stands.
I don't know where such an institution would then

stand. I think it quite unlikely - I agree with
Mr. Eccles - it is quite unlikely that the
institution would close. It is quite probable
that the small depositor who makes up such a large
part of the deposits of this particular institution would feel that, F. D. I. C. standing behind
them, there was no cause for concern and would go

on their way, but, as has been suggested, there
are probably stockholders in the Trans-America,
and a great many of the others, and all things
tied together - excited on one side, equally
excited on the other.

I don't think it is possible to sit here this

afternoon and guess what the result will be. I -

I think the most we can guess is what can be done

to try to cushion that result. of course, the
Federal Reserve of San Francisco stands ready to
do its part; the F. D. I. C. has a definite part
to play; it plays it somewhat automatically. I
take it that R. F. C. is prepared to do whatever

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- 18 it can do. That leaves the only question open
for decision, it seems to me, one for the Comptrol-

ler's Office: Is the situation large enough important enough to consider the appointment of
a conservator? I don't see what other question

we've got to consider.

Now, as to statements that are made, looking back

Eccles:

over the last ten or fifteen years, I have not been
greatly impressed with public statements as
reassuring to the depositors of a bank. They
are somewhat aggravating at times. I wouldn't
know what to say. (Laughter)
You bet your life.
that

Gaston:

We have anticipated / in a little speech I made.
"No statement until actual necessity is facing you."

Henderson:

Until a request is made, because otherwise, you

are giving to the public the wrong feeling,
perhaps.

Gaston:

If we are asked to give the statement, "Is this

bank insolvent?" we'd say the Comptroller of the
Currency, under the law, would of course close
this bank and appoint a conservator if it were,
and he has not done so.

Henderson:

Then, in addition to what the Chairman just said
about Mr. Jones making this statement, if neces-

sary, the F. D. I. C. could come in.

Oliphant:

I didn't hear your suggestion, Gaston.

Gaston:

Well, I simply added my vote to what Mr. Ransom

had said, that I think that a statement, issued in
advance, or issued coincidentally with the issuance
of this S. E. C. statement, would be a great mistake; it would be very difficult to find anything
which would be reassuring, and on the contrary,
I think anything that might be said at that time

would be more disturbing than otherwise. The
time when a statement would be in order is when
we were actually faced with something; if there
were a run, or some action needed, then we would

make a statement. If the Comptroller's office

were asked, "Is this bank insolvent?" then we'd
say, "The Comptroller is under obligation, by the

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- 19 law, to
close such insolvent bank, and he has not
done
so."
Eccles:

It would
impaired.

Folger:

No, if the capital is impaired, if they failed
to give the notice, and failed
(speaking low)

have to be insolvent if the capital is

for three months.
Hanes:

Mr. Nichols, how do you feel about this statement?

Do you feel about the same way Mr. Ransom does?
Nichols:

I do,Gaston.
very much, Mr. Secretary; very much as
Mr.

Hanes:

Do you feel that way, Mr. Henderson?

Henderson:

Well, I think that a statement could well be made
upon a request to elicit a statement, but to
voluntarily
make a statement, right at that time,
I feel would be unwise.

Hanes:

Do you feel the same way about it?

Husbands:

I don't think it is going to have an appreciable
affect on the Bank. They've got some smart boys
out there; they are going to answer that in the

paper, and that answer is going to be logical as
hell when it comes out.
Eccles:

The ones affected will be the little fellows, and
the F. D. I. C. insurance might prevent any run

at all.
Husbands:

We have had some experience in these banks, all
over the country, the largest, up here in Camden,
New Jersey. There, two banks had deposits of
around thirty-five million dollars. For two or
three months there was common talk on the street

about the banks being insolvent, going to bust,

etc., and the banks, altogether, lost twelve or
fifteen thousand dollars in deposits. The public

generally has a faith the Government is going to
take care of them, and they go and claim they will

be persecuted, etc. In the end I think it is go-

ing to revolve down to this: You have made these
accusations, issued this order; then I think you

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- 20 are going to have to change management. Logically
saying, the man who would do this in Trans-

America will do it in the Bank of America. I

think it is up to the Comptroller, after this is

done, to make his move to change that management.

That is the sole question involved.

Taylor:

Would the S. E. C., when it is issuing this order,
would they normally describe in a press release
or otherwise, what is involved, what their duties
are, why they are doing it, and so on?

Lane:

They would, normally, not; and consideration was
given to that in this case, and the Commission

decided it didn't want to; what it did propose to
do was something which has been done in the past;
that is, let the reporters in and look at the
order, maybe fifteen minutes before it is released,
so they can all read it over together before it's
issued. They are all there at once, and it would
prevent some of the smart boys getting a scoop on
the dumb ones; avoid misunderstandings by some

trying to get the story out quick. There's the
possibility that we might have someone available
to explain what a "reserve" is, or "dividends" but
the Commission didn't want to do any more than
that.

Hanes:

They would give to them the whole order?

Lane:

Yes, that is right.

Taylor:

It seems to me the only place there is an opportunity
for making an explanation which doesn't involve

Lane:

Taylor:

these various points, is for the S. E. C. to
describe what the hell this is all about.
I think that may be true, and the difficulty of
the S. E. C. doing it in this case, at the time
of announcement, is the condition of the Bank, and
it is way outside of the policy of the S. E. C.
making a statement as to whether a bank is in good
condition or not.
If there isn't any statement that can be made at

this time, it would be a natural thing to do it would be fore the S. E. C. to describe what this
is all about and what is involved. My opinion
would probably stop at all the other statements,

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- 21 because I agree with Sam (Husbands); I don't

Delano:
Husbands:
Hanes:

think the chances of a run are very great. In
fact, I would say they are rather remote.
We feel that way in the Comptroller's Office.
Cy says the deposits are going to increase.

I take it that the sense of this meeting is, then,
that no one should issue any statement of this
kind upon the issuance of this order by the S. E. C.
I'll just say here, the Secretary told me before
he went away that was his feeling; he felt that

way; he thought those statements would do more

harm than good. I think we are almost unanimous

on that point. I take it there is no one here
that ought to say anything.

Delano:

If the situation develops later, I think we might
have to change our opinions; I certainly don't
think so at this time.

Eccles:

If there is a substantial shrinkage of the deposits,
it is likely to come through the mail, and it
wouldn't be evident until they publish the next
call statement, which, as far as the public is

concerned, it is these runs in these banks where
crowds get into them that create the panic, and
the F. D. - the Insurance Deposits, I don't
think that can happen.
Husbands:

This Bank is primarily a savings bank anyway; in

fact, it is the largest savings bank in the country.
I think the savings will run seven hundred fifty
million dollars, won't it, Gus?
Folger:

Around seven hundred million.

Husbands:

I think you will have to be quite circumspect in
handling your Examiners so as not to create the
appearance that the Examiners are rushing in.

Delano:

Yes. And I think, to obtain confidence, - well,
I don't like to make statements. I - one question
here, I don't know about; that is that question
of a conservator. A conservator would only come
into the picture in case it becomes necessary to

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Ransom:

protect
the rights
the deposits
distribution
of the of
Bank's
assets. in the equal
Of course, that is obvious.

Delano:

Unless it were clear this was going to be a
severe drain on the Bank, the question of the conservator would not be a pertinent question.

Ransom:

How do we determine what his happening inside of

the Bank until we get another call report? Is
the examination processed?

Delano:

How about that, do we?

Folger:

Yes. We have been able to get figures from banks

Ransom:

So you can watch the pulse.

Delano:

That is a very serious matter, that question of

Eccles:

That is the last resort.

Ransom:

It seems to me you have to bear in mind every possible source of protection you could throw around

having withdrawals, figures ever day - daily.

conservator.

a situation of this kind.
Delano:

It seems we are confronted in this particular case

with the horns of a dilemma. Your Government

agency is charged with protecting the public

against mismanagement of the banks, and not hid-

ing, and putting under the table things the management may do, which ultimately may result in a
greater difficulty than this one that exists. The
other one is that no one wants to go in here and

pull down the financial structure as large as this

or shatter the confidence of a whole number of
states out there in the West, unless he is convinced

that this responsibility largely overweighs the
responsibility of not throwing financial
Taylor:
Eccles:

men into the country.

Something's got to be done. I don't say it is a
dilemma. I think it is a question of weighing one
against the other.

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- 23 Delano:

I think the S. E. C. has decided its obligation,
responsibility, is to go ahead and do this. As
I take it from this meeting, Mr. Secretary, it's not
particularly to do that, but to see what we can

do here to obviate such action.
Hanes:

There is just one other thought the Secretary
asked we bring out, and that was the matter,
should trouble develop- you see this order will
be issued before the Bank is closed, and before
any of the banks are closed in California.

Delano:

And the markets will be open.

Oliphant:

It will be twelve o'clock in San Francisco, Friday?
That is right. So that he wanted us to explore
with the Federal Reserve and other proper authorities,
the possibility of getting cash to these institutions in case trouble should develop.

Hanes:

Eccles:

You mean the question of currency. Of course there
is a branch in Los Angeles, and there is a branch

in Frisco, and the Bank itself - do they know,
do they know that this is likely to be issued, so
that they can

Hanes:

I don't know that.

Lane:

They do not know it officially; I have reasons which
I can't even formulate in my mind - I think they
know it unofficially. They haven't known it from

us but we have had enough indications they know

it is coming, though I don't suppose they know it
will be coming this Friday.
Eccles:

It would be very difficult to get cash to four

hundred and ninety branches in the state from those
two Reserve banks. They - the bank itself should
anticipate that and arrange to have cash sent out

to them the first thing on Friday morning.

Ransom:

Could I ask, Mr. Secretary, about the timing of it?
Would it be possible to issue it after the closing
time for the Bank, for the day?

Hanes:

Well, we asked the Chairman of the Commission that

question - would it be possible to, say issue this

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order, instead of three, say issue it at six
o'clock in the afternoon, instead of three?
Eccles:

Or even five.

Hanes:

My impression is that they had considered that
matter
very definitely and decided on three o'clock
in the afternoon.

Lane:

I don't want to try to commit the Commission, but

I think if there were strong feeling in this group
here that it be desirable that the order be not
issued until six o'clock, they would reconsider

it.

Hanes:

You heard what he said?

Lane:

If there were strong feeling in this group that
the order not be issued until six o'clock,
recognizing that at three o'clock, the time is
still part of the banking day in San Francisco,
I'd be perfectly willing to take back to the
Commission any statements of strong feeling in
this group, if there is strong feeling it should
be held up until six o'clock.

Gaston:

It would go on your Dow Jones ticker, they have
out there in San Francisco and Los Angeles, so
that your larger depositors would know it;

Delano:

they will know it well in advance of the Bank's
closing in the day. The smaller depositors
would not. It wouldn't get into the papers.
What was the objection to the six o'clock? Was
there an objection to that?

Lane:

I don't know what the objection was.

Delano:

It seems to me much better to have it at six o'clock.

Lane:

Perhaps one consideration was, the Commission

extremely
(words inaudible - poor enunciation)
nervous
decided they couldn't possibly put

it off, but at the earliest possible time on

Friday, because of the fears it might lead to.
As I say, I'd be glad to get the impression of
this group.

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- 25 Oliphant:

If the Bank&s management's cooperation, as a

matter of having cash, is important, the
undesirability of advising anybody in advance
of the action, with me weighs very heavily in
favor of shifting the hour to six o'clock, because
that could take care of the difficulty. The
Bank then could, over-night, request funds.

Henderson:

The
next day is Saturday, and it closes at twelve
o'clock.

Eccles:

Well, that is a factor. I mean, it is difficult

to say to what extent, but inasmuch as the Secretary
asked that that be considered

Oliphant:

When does the Bank close?

Eccles:

Three o'clock.

Oliphant:

Three o'clock is the closing time.

Eccles:

Oliphant:

It wouldn't be practical, of course, to get cash
some notice. They may not need it, but if they
should need it, they ought to have a little time.
Six o'clock would give them - let them get it

Eccles:

Yes. We can arrange with the Federal Reserve to

into a good many of those branches, without having

over-night.

keep open and be prepared to make a currency

Hanes:

shipment that night to any branch that the Bank
ordered cash to be sent to, and the Bank then,
of course, couldn't accuse the S. E. C. of putting
them in a position where they were unable to meet
the cash withdrawal in these branches by not
giving them notice.
Shall we ask the S. E. C. to reconsider and ask -

is it the sense of this meeting they should delay -

we should ask them to delay until six o'clock?
Henderson:
Gaston:

Unless they have some good reason for putting it
out at twelve. Three there would be an advisable
time.

Another possibility, three o'clock on Saturday,

your Bank closing at noon on Saturday, and that
would give them all of Saturday afternoon and

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- 26 Sunday.
Henderson:
Lane:

That is right. That's what I had in mind.
Well, one factor in releasing it at that time,
I think the Commission feels in fairness to all
the depositors and stockholders, it is desirable
to have pretty wide publicity in a situation of
this kind, so that all the people would know about
it atione time.

Gaston:

That would be Sunday to get the widest distribution possible.

Lane:

One reason, the order, which I sent out by air-

mail last night - it probably hasn't gotten to
San Francisco yet

Oliphant:

If the Commission is asked to reconsider the
matter, why not ask that both these questions
be reconsidered.

Lane:

We felt it would be extremely unwise to have an
order of this kind come out on Thanksgiving

morning in California. That really is important.

Henderson:

And so soon after election.

Eccles:

Saturday would, of course, be the best time, if
it could be done on Saturday, because that would
give the Bank an opportunity to prepare its paper
over the week-end in case it wants to borrow money.
After all, it can only draw in cash from the Reserve
Bank against its balances there. And if it needs
to either rediscount or to borrow on bills payable,

it is necessary to get their rediscounts in, or
their bills payable in, so they can get credit and

draw against that credit, and the week-end
interim gives them an opportunity to prepare for

a very large run, if they're likely to have one.

Gaston:

You have three issues of your daily newspapers

appearing then after the order is public, and before

the Bank opened, before anybody had a chance to
make any withdrawals, you'd have your late Saturday

editions in Los Angeles and San Francisco; you'd
have your Sunday editions and you'd have your
Monday morning papers, in addition, so equal notice
gets to everyone.

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- 27 Uphain:

And the possibility for an accumulation of

panic, so that Monday morning you have a real

run. I very much prefer to have it on Friday

afternoon, with a shorter banking day on
Saturday, so we will have some estimate and

some sanctum of what is doing. I don't think
it makes any difference whether it is twelve
o'clock or three o'clock.

Eccles:

Well, I don't. I can't imagine enough of a run

on Saturday morning to cause very much difficulty.
It takes time to get momentum on these things,

and it could, without much difficulty, get sufficient currency to meet any situation that could

develop on Saturday morning, and then it could
prepare over the weekend to get additional currency if the experiences of Saturday morning

indicated it might be necessary. There is this
other thing you mentioned, Herbert, and that is
an equal notice to the little stockholders in
Trans-America and the little depositor who is always
likely to get information after the big stockholder,
Upham:

Gaston:

and the big depositor.
But the small depositors are all protected now,

so it doesn't matter.

There are two sides to that question of accumulative
notices as generating a panic. of course you have
a chance there for all the replies that Mr.
Giannini and his associates want to make in two

issues of the daily newspapers, and if this thing
is going to generate a panic sooner or later, we
might as well have it.

Taylor:
Gaston:

Further than that, the radio might be the means
of communication.

Yeah, if the radio thinks it important enough to

mention.
Taylor:
Gaston:

They will think it important enough to mention

it.
I wouldn't bet on it. Yes, there will probably

be broadcasts.
Oliphant:

Why not let's submit it to them that they consider
both alternatives.

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- 28 Hanes:

Does anybody want to add anything?

Chester, will you take it up with the Commission
and let us know what their decision is?
Lane:

Gaston:
Upham:

Eccles:

It is the sense of this meeting, is it, that it

would be desirable to have it outside the banking
hours, with no definite opinion as to whether it
should be Saturday or Friday.
Upham thinks it doesn't make any difference.

No, I don't think so. I think it ought to be

Friday.

I don't think it makes any difference whether it

should be three o'clock or six o'clock. I don't
think it makes sufficient difference to justify
putting it off till Saturday, but from the currency
standpoint, I don't think we ought to be in the

position of letting the management of the banks
say this notice came out without previous informa-

tion to them, without an opportunity for them to
get currency, that certainly if it should come
out at five or six o'clock on Friday then they

have got twelve hours in which to get currency if
they don't happen to have it, and I think we ought
to protect ourselves at least to that extent,
the question of two or three hours, by taking a
chance.

Hanes.

Then the question you want to ask the Commission

to determine is whether it should be on Friday

at three or at six o'clock. That is all,

not Saturday. The question is back to three or
six, on Friday. If you will ask the Commission
and let me know, I shall communicate it to the
rest of you.
Herman, have I missed anything?

Oliphant:

Not that I can think of.

Husbands:

Ask S. E. C. to go over this matter to see whether
they can delete

Hanes:

I take it from what Mr. Lane says, this order is
on the airplane, on its way to California.

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- 29 Lane:

That is the fact. The Commission would hesitate
to slow up the proceeding, but I'd be glad to take
back any such request, but the order is gone; it's

a certified copy, to be held against my instructions to serve it at whatever time we finally
determine.
Henderson:

Then, Mr. Hanes, as I understand, this order will
go out and be served sometime Friday afternoon,
and that no voluntary statement will be made.

Hanes:

That is, I think, the sense of the meeting, and

I told Mr. Jones I would communicate with him, and
he said if you wanted him to say anything

Henderson:

How did he feel? Did he express himself on making
a voluntary statement unless requested?

Hanes:

He seemed to want to - I'll read you what he said.
I said, "Do you think that the Comptroller should
make the statement if any is made, or would you

be willing to make a statement if the group felt
it imperitive that somebody make such a statement?"
He said, "If you will let me know the facts, If I

may say so, the country has learned to believe the
things I have told them about banks and I will be
glad to tell them anything you want me to say."
Henderson:

He expressed himself as being willing to go along
with the expressed opinion here.

Hanes:

That is right. He said, "I'll tell them anything
you feel is desirable to tell them."

Ransom:

We are not attempting to suggest the Comptroller
may not make any statement he may want to make

at any time he wants to make it. The suggestion

was made a moment ago that it is the concensus
of this meeting that no voluntary statement be made,

and I wouldn't like to express the statement, on

my own part, that the Comptroller shouldn't make
any statement he desires.
Hanes:

I didn't get the meaning of that to go beyond

this particular crisis. The Comptroller, after

this crisis, has got to make up his own mind about
that.

Eccles:

Well, you will advise us at what time this order
is going to be served; then we can communicate

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with the Federal Reserve Bank at Frisco so they
will stand by and be prepared to supply such
currency as may be required, otherwise.
Hanes:

That is what the Secretary had in mind. The reason
for bringing this up, we ought to be prepared for
any emergency.

Taylor:

When the thing is released and served out on the
Coast, will the S. E. C. also have somebody available there, as you would have here in Washington,

to talk to the reporters, to explain what the

accounting terms mean?
Lane:

We'll have Administrators etc., and though they
have not been here and working with it, they have
had charge of transmission of reports and have
dealt with our investigations that took place
out there. They might not be given as adequate
an explanation of it, but they will undoubtedly
be prepared to meet inquiries.

Hanes:

Chester, will you report to Bill Douglas, because
he is the one that got the instructions from the
President to explore this matter, and you will
report back to him.

Lane:

I'll report that, and I'd like to add to it,

John, that he asked me to say that if the decision

was that no statement should be made, you would
communicate that to the President, because he

feels that an obligation has been put on him as
the prime mover to see that something is done, or
else the explanation is given to the President.
Since he feels it is not our job to do the some-

Hanes:

Lane:

thing, he wants you to follow it.
I am going to call Henry and I'll ask Henry to call
him. He knows about this request, because Bill
called him. I am going to call him as soon as
this meeting is over, and report all this to him.
I think he is going to call the President any way.
Can I understand that you will either let the
President know or see that he is informed?

Hanes:

Or see that he is informed. Yes, I will.
Well, gentlemen, if there is nothing further
(Adjourned at 6:00 P. M.)

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FOR THE SECRETARY:

November 23, 1938.

A meeting was held in the office of Mr. Hanes at 4:30 p.m. and was
attended by Messrs. Lane of the SEC, Eccles and Ransom of the Federal Reserve,
Nichols of the FDIC, Henderson and Husbands of the RFC, Hanes, Taylor, Delano,

Upham, Oliphant, Gaston, Duffield, Foley and Young of the Treasury.
Mr. Hanes explained that the President had asked through SEC Chairman

Douglas that the group consider the feasibility of issuing a public statement
on the condition of Bank of America, N.T. & S.A., at the time that the SEC
order is issued against Transamerica Corp. Mr. Hanes summarized the SEC order

for the group and read a separate summary of the features of the report involving the Bank. He added that he had talked with Mr. Jesse Jones by telephone and that Mr. Jones had suggested deleting mention of the Bank from the

SEC order and had stated his willingness to issue a statement on the condition
of the Bank if the group so desired.
Mr. Eccles asked whether the SEC had considered the possibility of

asking Transamerica to delist its stock voluntarily to avoid the risk of
public repercussions. Mr. Lane replied that his guess was that Transamerica

would refuse to delist voluntarily, that the SEC might still feel obliged to
inform investors of the facts about Transamerica in spite of a voluntary delisting, and that he believed the SEC had no course other than to proceed with
its order.

Mr. Eccles said that the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco could
meet any temporary demand for funds by the Bank but that the Comptroller might

have to appoint a conservator and the RFC might have to furnish loans and
capital to meet any long-term drain on the Bank.

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-2At Mr. Delano's suggestion Mr. Folger reported that the Bank's last
statement - as of September 28 - showed deposits, including $70,000,000 of

inter-bank deposits, totalling $1,830,000,000. At that time the Bank had
$404,000,000 of U. S. Government bonds, $230,000,000 of cash and deposits

with the Federal Reserve, and $110,000,000 of high-grade municipal bonds,
a total of $744,000,000. About $214,000,000 of the Government bonds were

pledged behind deposits of public money, he noted. He estimated that the

Bank could pay down 40% of its deposits and still be able to function. He
said daily deposit figures could be obtained from the Bank if that was
thought desirable. The Bank held between $12,000,000 and $15,000,000 of

Transamerica stock directly or as collateral, he said.
Mr. Eccles pointed out that the Giannini banking interests spread over
Oregon, Washington, Nevada, and Arizona as well as California, that the

possibilities of difficulties for all these banks were hard to predict, but
that he thought the chances of the Bank having to close were very remote.
The existence of the FDIC may reassure small depositors of which the Bank

has a great many, he remarked, adding that he had heard but not verified
that some of the large deposits were already moving out of the Bank.

Mr. Ransom said the possibilities were hard to foresee but that, if
the blackest picture developed, the Comptroller should be prepared to appoint

a conservator so that withdrawal of large deposits did not strip the Bank of
its good assets, leaving small depositors with nothing but poor assets. As

to a public statement on the Bank's condition, he said that the last ten
years had not convinced him of the wisdom of the public statements about
banks' conditions.

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-3Mr. Gaston agreed that no public statement should be volunteered;

if questions are asked about the Bank, the obvious reply is: "If the Bank
were insolvent, the Comptroller would have closed it. He has not done so."
Mr. Nichols, Mr. Husbands, Mr. Henderson, Mr. Upham and Mr. Delano agreed

that no statement should be volunteered and each added that he thought the
chances of a run on the Bank very remote. Mr. Hanes asked if the concensus
of the meeting was that no statement on the Bank should be volunteered at
the time of the SEC order on Transamerica was issued. There were no dissents.
Mr. Taylor subsequently suggested that at any SEC press conference on the
Transamerica order a statement could be made in the ordinary course saying

that the condition of the Bank is not questioned in the SEC action.
Mr. Hanes told the meeting that Secretary Morgenthau wanted each

agency to be prepared to assist the Bank if any run developed. Mr. Eccles
urged that the SEC order be announced after banking hours on Friday instead

of at 12:00 noon, Pacific Coast time, as planned. The Reserve Board would
then arrange with the San Francisco reserve bank to keep its vaults open and

to ship currency Friday night if necessary, he said. Mr. Gaston suggested
publication of the SEC order Saturday after noon. Mr. Oliphant suggested that
the group ask the SEC to reconsider the time of the announcement, allowing it
to choose between Friday evening and Saturday afternoon; this suggestion met
with general approval.

Mr. Lane said he would take this request to the SEC. As to Mr. Jones'
suggestion that mention of the Bank be deleted from the order, Mr. Lane pointed

out that the order already was in the mail to the Coast and that delay for revision would invite leaks. He asked that Mr. Hanes arrange for notifying the
President of the group's advice against a public statement on the Bank.
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P

Y

November 23, 1938

Secretary Morgenthau

Mr. Oliphant

Consideration has been given to the question whether you may
make available to the Securities and Exchange Commission information

contained in reports of examination of a national bank, which information the Commission contemplates using in a public hearing under the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934 in a proceeding to suspend or withdraw

the registration of certain securities.
I am of the opinion that you have authority to make such information available upon such terms as you may prescribe in the public
interest.

Section 161 of the Revised Statutes of 1873 (U.S.C. title 5.
sec. 22), provides:
"The head of each Department is authorised to

prescribe regulations, not inconsistent with law,

for the government of his Department, the conduct

of its officers and clerks, the distribution and

performance of its business, and the custody, use,
and preservation of the records, papers, and prop-

erty appertaining to it."

With regard to that statute, it was said in (1905) 25 Op.
Atty. Gen. 326 (at page 329):
"It thus appears that the head of a Department has

full charge and control of all the records and
papers belonging to the Department. His authority
to prescribe whatever rules and regulations he may

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-2deem proper regarding their use and custody is un-

limited, so long as 'not inconsistent with law.'

Such broad discretion would necessarily include
the right to determine whether certain documents
should or should not be taken from the files of
the Department for any purpose except for use in
connection with departmental business, and in accordance with his determination so to instruct the
chiefs of bureaus or other officers concerned."
Similarly, with respect to furnishing to another Government
agency information in the files of the Treasury Department, it was
stated in (1925) 35 Op. Atty. Gen. 5 (at pages 6 and 7):
"There is no statute which expressly authorizes the Public Health Service to give out copies

of its hospital records, nor is there any prohibit-

ing it from doing so. The Secretary of the Treasury,
by section 161 Revised Statutes, is authorised to
prescribe regulations, not inconsistent with law,
for the government of his Department, the distribution and performance of its business, and the
custody, use, and preservation of the records, papers,

and property appertaining to it. This statute, in

the absence of statutory prohibition, authorises
the Secretary of the Treasury to make such rules
and regulations respecting the furnishing of copies
of the records of the Public Health Service as he
may deem proper. It therefore lies within the sound
discretion of the Secretary of the Treasury whether
such records shall be made available to either of

the parties requesting them -- that is, to the
patient or his representative, or to the representative of the Emergency Fleet Corporation - or
whether such data shall be made available at all.
.

"In this respect the Emergency Fleet Corporation is a bureau of the Federal Government. As a
Government agency it is charged with the duty of
protecting the Government's interests in every way

possible. To deny it access to official records of

the Public Health Service, or copies of such records
when required, either for use in defending a suit in

114

-3court or for the purpose of determining whether an
allowance shall be made for injuries to seamon emplayed on merchant vessel of the United States Ship
ping Board operated by or under authority of the
Emergency Fleet Corporation, would be to deny to
Government agency the use of the official records
a

of another Government agency or bureau, necessary

for the protection of the Government's interests.
See also my opinion of December 29, 1934, directed to the Surgeon General,
United States Public Health Service.

With more specific reference to information in the files of the
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, your attention is directed to
the opinion of Attorney General Wickersham to the President in (1912) 29

Op. Atty. Gen. 555. The following statements in that opinion are pertinent:

"Thus the banking laws olothe the Comptroller

with authority to examine into the affairs of national banks for three main purposes: First, to ascer-

tain the financial condition and soundness of management of national banks: second, to determine whether
or not such banks are operating in conformity with
the banking laws; third, to enable him to recommend
amendments to the existing law.
"Nowhere in the law is there any express provision that the information thus acquired by the

Comptroller shall be confidential. While, if in

your opinion, the interests of the Government require that this information shall be so treated,
you have the right to refuse to divalge it (Boake
V. Comingore, 177 U.S. 459, 469), yet, I am clearly

of the view that if, in your opinion, it is proper

to give this information to the House committee you

have the :ful power to do so.

"Since the comptroller exercises his functions
under the general direction of the Secretary of the

Treasury, and therefore of yourself, it follows that

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if either you or the Secretary think that the comptroller should have before him in the performance of
his duties any of the information mentioned in Mr.
Untermyer's letter, you have the lawful power of directing him to acquire it." (Underscoring supplied.)
See also my opinion to you of September 13, 1938.

The only remaining point is whether there are any statutes onacted since Attorney General Wickersham's opinion which bear upon the
matter under consideration.

Section 22 of the Federal Reserve Act, 38 Stat. 272, as amended

(U.S.C., Sup. III, title 12, sec. 594), as it appears in the Code, provides, in part, as follows:
"No examiner, public or private, shall disclose
the names of borrowers or the collateral for loans
of a member bank or insured bank to other than the
proper officers of such bank without first having
obtained the express permission in writing from the
Comptroller of the Currency, as to a national bank,
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
as to a State member bank, or the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation as to any other insured bank,

or from the board of directors of such bank, except
when ordered to do so by a 'court of competent jurisdiction, or by direction of the Congress of the
United States, or of either House thereof, or any
committee of Congress, or of either House duly authorised."

That provision recognises the authority of the Comptroller of the Currency,
who, of Course, acts subject to the direction of the Secretary of the
Treasury.

Two more recent statutes should be considered together. Section
101 of the Banking Act of 1935 (amending section 12B of the Federal Reserve

Act), as amended, 49 Stat. 694 (U.S.C., Sup. III, title 12, sec. 264(k) (4)).
as it appears in the Code, provides, in part, as follows:

116

-5"The [Federal Deposit Insurance] Corporation
shall have access to reports of examinations made by,

and reports of condition made to, the Comptroller of
the Currency or any Federal Reserve bank, may accept
any report made by or to any commission, board, or
authority having supervision of a State nonmember

bank (except a District bank), and may furnish to the

Comptroller of the Currency, to any Federal Reserve
bank, and to any such commission, board, or authority,
reports of examinations made on behalf of, and reports
of condition made to, the Corporation."

Section 1 of the Agricultural Credits Act of 1923, 42 Stat. 1458, as
amended (U.S.C. title 12, sec. 1091), as it appears in the Code, provides:
"In order to enable each Federal intermediate
credit bank to carry out the purpose of this subchapter, the Comptroller of the Currency is hereby
authorised and directed, upon the request of any
Federal intermediate credit bank, (1) to furnish
for the confidential use of such bank such reports,
records, and other information as he may have avail-

able relating to the financial condition of national

banks through or for which the Federal intermediate
credit bank has made or contemplates making discounts,

Those statutes clearly do not limit the availability of records of the
Comptroller's office to other agencies of the Government but rather give

certain agencies a privileged position with respect to such records.
With regard to several lending agencies of the Government,

there are statutes expressly authorising the Comptroller of the Currency
to make available certain information to those agencies.
Section 8 of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act, 47

Stat. 8, as amended (U.S.C. title 15, sec. 608), as it appears in the
Code, provides:

117

⑉6"In order to enable the corporation to carry out
the provisions of this chapter, the Treasury Depart-

ment, the Federal Farm Loan Board, the Comptroller of
the Currency, the Federal Reserve Board, the Federal
reserve banks, and the Interstate Commerce Commission
are hereby authorised, under such conditions as they

may prescribe, to make available to the corporation,
in confidence, such reports, records, or other information as they may have available relating to the
condition of applicants with respect to whom the corporation has had or contemplates having transactions
under this chapter, or relating to individuals, associations, partnerships, corporations, or other obligers
whose obligations are offered to or held by the corporation as security for loans under this chapter, and to

make, through their examiners or other employees for

the confidential use of the corporation, examinations

of applicants for loans. Every applicant for a loan

under this chapter shall, as a condition precedent
thereto, consent to such examination as the corporation may require for the purposes of this chapter and
that reports of examinations by constituted authorities
may be furnished by such authorities to the corporation
upon request therefor."
Section 22 of the Federal Home Loan Bank Act, 47 Stat. 739, as

amended (U.S.C., Sup. III, title 12, sec. 1442), as it appears in the Code,
provides:

"(a) In order to enable the [Federal Home Loan
Bank] board to carry out the provisions of this chapter, the Treasury Department, the Comptroller of the
Currency, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, and the Federal reserve banks are hereby authorised, under such conditions as they may prescribe, to
make available to the board in confidence for its use
and the use of any Federal Home Loan Bank such reports,
records, or other information as may be available, re-

lating to the condition of institutions with respect to

which any such Federal Home Loan Bank has had or con-

templates having transactions under this chapter or relating to persons whose obligations are offered to or

held by any Federal Home Loan Bank, and to make through

their examiners or other employees, for the confidential

use of the board or any Federal Home Loan Bank, examina-

tions of such institutions.

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-7"(b) Every institution which shall apply for advances under this chapter shall, as a condition prece-

dent thereto, consent to such examination as the bank
or the board may require for the purposes of this
chapter and/or that reports of examinations by constituted authorities may be furnished by such authorities
to the bank or the board upon request therefor."
Section 31 of the Farm Credit Act of 1937 (amending section

208(e) of the Federal Farm Loan Act), 50 Stat. 716 (U.S.C., Sup. III,

title 12, sec. 1095), provides:
"The executive departments, boards, commissions,
and independent establishments of the Government, the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the Federal Deposit

Insurance Corporation, the Comptroller of the Currency,

the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
and the Federal Reserve banks are severally authorised
under such conditions as they may prescribe, upon the

request of the Farm Credit Administration to make available to the Farm Credit Administration or any district
bank or district corporation operating under its super-

vision, in confidence, all reports, records or other
information they may have relating to the condition of
any institution to which the Administration, such dis-

triot bank, or corporation has made or contemplates
making loans or for which it has discounted or contem-

plates discounting paper, or which it is using or contemplates using as a custodian of securities or other
credit instruments, or as a depositary."
Since, as shown above, there was already ample authority for

making records of the Comptroller of the Currency available to other
Government agencies, those statutes must be regarded as having been en-

acted out of an excess of caution - to make assurance doubly sure. Of.
Jordan V. Roche, (1913) 228 U.S. 436, 446; Helvering V. New York Trust Co.
(1934) 292 U.S. 455, 469.

119

-8Thus it will be seen that there is nothing in the recent statutes that is inconsistent with the conclusion stated at the outset of
this opinion.

Finally, your attention is directed to Department Circular No.
591 of August 15, 1938 (superseding Department Rule IX), Regulations

Governing the Disclosure of Official Information, issued pursuant to

section 161 of the Revised Statutes of 1873 (U.S.C. title 5, sec. 22),
quoted above. Paragraph 5 of that Circular provides:

"These regulations shall not be applicable to
official requests of other governmental agencies or

officers thereof acting in their official capacities,

unless it appears that compliance therewith would be

in violation of law, or inimical to the public in-

terest. Cases of doubt should be referred for docision to the Secretary, the Under Secretary, an
Assistant Secretary, or the Administrative Assistant
to the Secretary."

(Signed) Herman Oliphant
General Counsel.

DJS/RHD/
Typed: 11/20/38.

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I

November as. 1938

Secretary Mergention
Mr. Olighans

Consideration has been given to the question whother you my
make available to the Securities and Exchange Commission information

contained is reports of examination of a national bank, which inform
tion the Commission contemplates using in a public hearing under the

Securities I not of 1936 in a proceeting so expend or withdraw
the registration of cartain compities.

I - of the opinion that you have authority to miss 1 in
formation available span w - as you my preseribe in the public
interest.

Section 161 of the Reviect Statutes of 1073 (U.S.C. essie 5.
see. 22). provides

" head of was Department is authorised to
proseribe registrates. ask inconsistent with law.
for the government of his Depart meal. the content

of its officers and storks, the distribution and

parformance of its business. and the outsity. mo.
and preservation of the yearnie, papers, and you
enty appertaining to 15.°

with regard to the 1 - (1906) 25 0g.
Atty. San. - (as page 320):
"IS these appears that the head of a Department has

full change and central of all the records and
papers belonging to the Department. His authority
to preseribe shalever raise and regulations he -

121

-2does preper regarding their use and custody is us-

limited, so long as 'not inconsistent with law.'

Such broad discretion would necessarily include
the right to determine whether certain documents
should or should not be taken from the files of
the Department for any purpose except for use in
connection with departmental business, and in accordance with his determination so to instruct the
chiefs of bureaus or other officers concerned."

Similarly, with respect to furnishing to another Government
agency information in the files of the Treasury Department, it was
stated in (1925) 35 Op. Atty. Gen. 5 (at pages 6 and 7):
"There is no statute which expressly authorises the Public Health Service to give out copies

of its hospital records, nor is there any prohibit-

ing is from doing so. The Secretary of the Treasury.
by section 161 Revised Statutes. is authorised to
prescribe regulations. not inconsistent with law.
for the government of his Department, the distribution and performance of its business. and the
oustody, use, and preservation of the records, papers,

and property appertaining to it. This statute, in

the absence of statutory prohibition, authorises
the Secretary of the Treasury to make such rules
and regulations respecting the furnishing of copies
of the records of the Public Health Service as he
may does proper. IS therefore lies within the sound
discretion of the Secretary of the Treasury whether
such records shall be made available to either of

the parties requesting them -- that is. to the
patient or his representative, or to the representative of the Emergency Fleet Corporation -- or
whether such data shall be made available at all.

"In this respect the Emergency Fleet Corporation is a bureau of the Federal Government. As a
Government agency it is charged with the duty of
protecting the Government's interests is every way
possible. To deny 18 access to official records of
the Public Health Service, or copies of such records
when required, either for use is defending a suit in

122

-3court or for the purpose of determining abother -

allowance shall be made for injuries to - -

played on marehant vessel of the United States Ship
ping Board operated by or under authority of the
Beorgeany First Corporation, would be to deny to a
Government agency the use of the official records
of another Government agency or bureau, necessary

for the protection of the Government's interests.
See also - opinion of December 29. 1936. directed to the Surgeon General,
United States Public Health Service.

with more specific reference to information in the files of the
office of the Comptroller of the Currency. your attention is directed to
the opinion of Attorney General Wickersham to the President in (1912) 29

Op. Alty. Gen. 565. The following statements in that opinion are partsment:

"Thus the banking love eletho the Compireller

with authority to examine into the affairs of national banks for three main purposess First, to asser-

tain the financial condition and soundness of manager
most of national banks second, to determine ahother
or not such banks are operating in confersity with
the banking lower third, so enable his to recommend
amendments to the existing law.

"Weshers in the las is there ARY excress NY

vision that the information the commer by the
Comptroller shall be confidential. Maile, 11 in

your opinion. the interests of the Government no

quire that this information shall be se treated,

you have the right to refuse to divalge 18 (Heska

y. Contact 177 U.S. 459, 469). yet, I as clearly
of the view that If. in your opinion. as is proper
to give this information to the House committee you
have the lasful power to do no.

"Since the comptroller exercises his functions
under the general direction of the Secretary of the
Treasury. and therefore of yourself. is follows that

123

-4If either you or the Secretary think that the comp
treller should have before him in the perfernance of
his duties any of the information motioned in Mr.
Unternyer's letter. you have the lasful power of diresting his to acquire it." (Underseoring supplied.)
See also my opinion to you of September 13. 1938.

The only remaining point is whether there are any statutes asted since Attorney General Wickersham's opinion which bear - the
matter under consideration.

Section 22 of the Federal Reserve Act, 38 Stat. 272, as amended

(U.S.C., Sup. III. title 12. sec. 594). as it appears in the Code, provideo, in part, as follows:

"No emminer. public or private. shall disclose
the names of borrowers or the collateral for loans
of a member bank or insured bank to other than the
proper officers of such bank without first having
obtained the express permission in writing from the
Comptreller of the Currency. as to a national bank,

the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
as to a State member bank, or the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation as to any other insured bank,

or from the board of directors of such bank, except
when ordered to do so by a court of competent juriediction. or by direction of the Congress of the
United States, or of either House thereof, or any
committee of Congress, or of either House daily therised."

That provision recognises the authority of the Comptroller of the Currency.

who, of course. acts subject to the direction of the Secretary of the
Treasury.

Two more resent statutes should be considered together. Section
101 of the Banking ACT of 1935 (amending section 123 of the Federal Reserve

Act). as amended, 49 Stat. 694 (U.S.C., Sep. III. title 12, see. 264(k)(4)).
as is appears in the Code, provides, in part, as follows:

124

-5"The (Federal Deposit Insurance] Corporation
shall have access to reports of examinations made by.
and reports of condition made to. the Comptroller of
the Currency or any Federal Reserve bank, my accept
any report made by or to any commission, board. or

authority having supervision of a State member
bank (except a District bank). and may furnish to the

Comptroller of the Currency. to any Federal Reserve
bank. and to any such commission, board. or authority.
reports of examinations made on behalf of. and reports
of condition made to, the Corporation."

Section 1 of the Agricultural Credits Act of 1923, 42 Stat. 1458, as
amended (U.S.C. title 12. sec. 1091). as as appears in the Code, provides:
"In order to enable each Federal intermediate

credit bank to carry out the purpose of this subchapter. the Comptroller of the Currency is hereby
authorised and directed. upon the request of any

Federal intermediate credit bank, (1) to furnish
for the confidential use of such bank such reports,

records, and other information as he may have avail-

able relating to the financial condition of national

banks through or for which the Federal intermediate

....

credit bank has made OF contemplates making discounts,

Those statutes clearly do not limit the availability of records of the
Comptroller's office to other agencies of the Government but rather give

certain agencies a privileged position with respect to such records.
with regard to several lending agencies of the Government.
there are statutes expressly authorising the Comptroller of the Currency
to Date available certain information to these agencies.
Section a of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation act, 47

Stat. 8, as amended (U.S.C. title 15. sec. 608). as as appears is the
Code, provides:

125

-6"In order to enable the corporation to carry out
the provisions of this chapter, the Treasury Depart-

ment, the Federal Farm Loan Board, the Compiseller of
the Currency. the Federal Reserve Board, the Federal
reserve banks, and the Interstate Commerce Commission
are hereby authorised, under such conditions as they

may prescribe, to make available to the corporation,
is confidence, such reports, records, or other infornation as they my have available relating to the
condition of applicants with respect to whom the corporation has had OF contemplates having transactions

under this chapter, or relating to individuals, associations, partnerships. corporations, or other obligers
whose obligations are offered to or held by the corporation as security for loans under this chapter. and to

make, through their examiners or other employees for
the confidential use of the corporation, examinations

of applicants for leans. Every applicant for a leas

under this chapter shall, as a condition presedent
thereto. consent to such examination as the corporation my require for the purposes of this chapter and
that reports of examinations by constituted authorities
may be furnished by such authorities to the corporation
upon request therefer."
Section 22 of the Federal Name Loan Beak Act, 47 Stat. 739, as

amended (U.S.C., Sup. III. title 12. sec. 1442). as 18 appears in the Code.
provides:

"(a) In order to enable the (Federal Name Loan
Bank board to earny out the provisions of this chepter. the Treasury Department, the Comptroller of the
Currency, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, and the Federal reserve banks are hereby authorised, under such conditions as they my preseribe, to
make available to the board in confidence for its use
and the use of any Federal Home Loan Bank such reports,
records, or other information as may be available, no-

lating to the condition of institutions with respect to

which any such Federal Home Loan Bank has had or can-

templates having transactions under this chapter or relating to persons whose obligations are offered to or

held by any Federal Home Leas Bank, and to make through

their examiners or other employees. for the confidential

use of the board or any Federal Name Loan Bank, examine-

tions of such institutions.

126

-7"(b) Every institution which shall apply for at-

vances under this chapter shall, as a condition presedent therete, consent to such examination as the bank
or the board may require for the purposes of this
chapter and/or that reports of examinations by constitated authorities may be furnished by such authorities
to the bank or the board upon request therefor."
Section 31 of the Form Credit Act of 1937 (amending section
208(e) of the Federal Farm Loan Act). 50 Stat. 716 (U.S.C., Sup. III.

title 12. sec. 1095). provides:
"The executive departments, boards, commissions,
and independent establishments of the Government, the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the Federal Deposit

Insurance Corporation, the Comptroller of the Currency,
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
and the Federal Reserve banks are severally authorised
under such conditions as they my prescribe, upon the
request of the Farm Credit Administration to make avail-

able to the Farm Credit Administration or any district
bank or district corporation operating under its supervision. in confidence, all reports, records or other
information they my have relating to the condition of
any institution to which the Administration. such distriet bank, or corporation has made or contemplates
making loans or for which is has discounted or contenplates discounting paper, or which is is using or contemplates using as a custodian of securities or other
credit instruments. or as a depositary."
Since, as shown above. there was already ample authority for

making records of the Comptroller of the Currency available to other
Government agencies, those statutes must be regarded as having been -

acted out of an excess of caution - to make assurance doubly sure. or.
Jorden V. Rache. (1913) 228 U.S. 436. 4461 Holveries V. New York treat Co.
(1934) 292 U.S. 455, 469.

127

--Thus 18 will be seen that there is nothing in the recent statutes that is inconsistant with the conclusion stated at the outset of
this epision.

Finally, your attention is directed to Department Circular No.
591 of August 15. 1938 (experseding Department Rale EX). Regulations

Governing the Disclosure of official Information, issued pursuant to
section 161 of the Revised Statutes of 1873 (U.S.C. title 5, sec. 22).
quoted above. Paragraph 5 of that Circular provides:

"These regulations shall not be applicable to
official requests of other governmental agencies or

officers thereof acting in their official organities,

whose is appeare that compliance therewith would be

in violation of law. or interest to the public in-

terest. Cases of doubt should be referred for docision to the Secretary, the Under Secretary, Assistant Secretary. or the administrative Assistant
to the Secretary."

(Signed) Horman Oliphant
General Counsel.

DJS/BHD/
typeds 11/20/38.

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P

November 23, 1938

T

Secretary Morgentheu

Mr. Oliphant

Consideration has been given to the question whether you may
make available to the Securities and Exchange Commission information

contained in reports of examination of a national bank, which inform
tion the Commission contemplates using in a public hearing under the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934 in a proceeding to suspend or withdraw

the registration of certain securities.
I am of the opinion that you have authority to make such information available upon such terms as you may prescribe is the public
interest.

Section 161 of the Revised Statutos of 1873 (U.S.C. title 5,
sec. 22), provides:

"The head of each Department is authorised to

prescribe regulations, not inconsistent with law.

for the government of his Department, the conduct

of its officers and clerks, the distribution and

performance of its business, and the oustody. use,
and preservation of the records, papers, and proporty appertaining to 11."

WIC regard to that statute, a was said in (1905) 25 Op. Atty.
Gen. 326 (at page 329):

"It thus appears that the head of a Department has
full charge and control of all the records and
papers belonging to the Department. His authority
to prescribe whatever rules and regulations he may

129

doom preper regarding their use and oustedy is -

limited, se long as 'not inconsistent with law.'

Such bread discretion would necessarily include
the right to determine whether certain documents
should or should not be taken from the files of
the Department for any purpose except for use in
connection with departmental business, and in -

ordered with his determination so to instruct the
chiefs of bureaus or other officers concerned."
Similarly, with respect to furnishing to another Government

agency information in the files of the Treasury Department, 10 was stated
in (1935) 35 Op. Ally. Gen. 5 (at pages 6 and 7):
"There is no statute which expressly authorisea the Public Health Service to give out copies

of its hospital records. nor is there any prehibiting it from doing so. The Secretary of the treasury,

by section 161 Revised Statutes. is authorized to
prescribe regulations. not inconsistent with law,
for the government of his Department, the distribution and performance of its business, and the
oustedy. use, and preservation of the records, papers,

and property appertaining to 11. This statute, in
the absence of statutory prohibition, authorises
the Secretary of the Treasury to make such valoe

and regulations respecting the furnishing of copies
of the records of the Public Health Service as he
may door proper. It therefore lies within the sound
discretion of the Secretary of the Treasury whether
such resords shall be sale available to either of

the parties requesting them - that is, to the
patient or his representative, or to the representative of the Beorgency First Carperation - or
whether such data shall be made available at all.
.

#In this respect the Meorgancy First Corporation is a bureau of the Federal Government. As a
Government agency 10 is charged with the duty of
protesting the Government's interests in every way

possible. To deay 11 assess to official records of
the Public Health Service, or copies of such records
when required, either for use in defending a suit in

130

.3.
court or for the purpose of determining whether an

allowance shall be made for injuries to seamon played on merchant vessel of the United States Shipping Board operated by or under authority of the
Emergency First Corporation. would be to deny to a
Government agency the use of the official records
of another Government agency or bureau, necessary

for the protection of the Government's interests.
See also my opinion of December 29. 1934, directed to the Surgeon General,
United States Public Health Service.

With more specific reference to information in the files of the
Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, your attention is directed to
the opinion of Attorney General Wickersham to the President in (1912) 29

Op. Atty. Gen. 555. The following statements in that opinion are pertinent:

"Thus the banking laws elothe the Comptroller

with authority to examine into the affairs of national banks for three main purposesi First, to ascer-

tain the financial condition and soundness of management of national banks second, to determine whether
or not such banks are operating in confernity with
the banking laws: third, to enable his to recommend
amendments to the existing law.
"Nowhere in the law is there any express pre-

vision that the Information thus adquire by the
Comptroller shall be confidential. While, if in
your opinion, the interests of the Government require that this information shall be so treated.
you have the right to refuse to divalgo it (Bosks
v. Comingere, 177 U.S. 459. 469). yet, I an clearly
of the view that 1f. in your opinion, it is proper

to give this information to the House committee you
have the lasful power to do so.

"Since the Comptroller exercises his functions
under the general direction of the Secretary of the
Treasury, and therefore of yourself. it follows that

131
4

If either you or the Secretary think that the comp=
troller should have before his in the performance of
his duties any of the information mentioned is Mr.
Untermer's letter. you have the lasful power of as.
resting him to acquire 11. (Undersooring supplied.)
See also my opinion to you of September 13, 1938.

The only remaining point is whether there are any statutes asacted since Attorney General Wickersham's opinion which bear upon the
matter under consideration.

Section 22 of the Federal Reserve Act, 38 Stat. 272, as amended

(U.S.C., Sup. III. title 12, sec. 594), as it appears in the Code, provides, in part, as follows:
"No examiner. public OF private, shall disclose
the names of borrowers or the collateral for loans

of a member bank OF insured bank to other than the

proper officers of such bank without first having

obtained the express permission is writing from the
Comptroller of the Currency, as to a national bank,

the Board of Governors of the Federal Receive System
as to a State member bank, or the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation as to any other insured bank,

or from the board of directors of such bank, except
when ordered to do se by a court of compotent juriediction, or by direction of the Congress of the
United States, OF of either House thereof, or any
committee of Congress, or of either House duly thorised."

That provision recognises the authority of the Comptroller of the Currency,

who, of course, acts subject to the direction of the Secretary of the
treasury.

Two more recent statutes should be considered together. Section
101 of the Making Act of 1935 (amending section 123 of the Sederal Reserve

Act), as amended, 49 Stat. 694 (U.S.C., Sup. III. title 12, see. 264(k)(4)).
as it appears in the Code, provides, in part, as follows:

132

"The (Federal Deposit Insurance] Corporation

shall have a to reports of examinations ands by

and reports of condition made so, the Comptroller of
the Currency or any Federal Receive beak, my accept
any report made by or to any commission, board, or

authority having supervision of a State member
bank (except a District beak), and may furnish to the

Comptseller of the Currency, to any Federal Reserve
bank, and to any such commission, board, or authority,
reports of examinations made on behalf of, and reports
of condition made so, the Corporation.

Section 1 of the Agricultural Credits Act of 1923, 43 Stat. 1458, as
amended (U.S.C. title 12, sec. 1091). as 10 appears in the Code,
provides

"In order to enable each Federal intermediate
credit bank to carry ous the purpose of this subchapter, the Comptroller of the Currency is hereby
authorised and directed, upon the request of any
Federal intermediate credit bank, (1) to furnish
for the confidential use of such bank such reporte,
records, and other information as he may have avail.

able relating to the financial condition of national

basics through or for which the Federal intermediate
credit beak has made or contemplates making discounts,

....

These statutes clearly do not limit the availability of records of the
Comptreller's office to other agencies of the Government but rather give

certain agencies a privileged position with respect to such records.
with regard to several lending agencies of the Government,

there are statutes expressly authorising the Comptroller of the Oarreney to make available certain information to those agencies.
Section a of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation Act, 47

Stat. s. as a (U.S.O. title 15, see. 608). as 10 appears is the
Code, provides:

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"In order to enable the corporation to earry out
the provisions of this chapter, the Treasury Depart.

ment, the Federal Farm Lean Board, the Comptreller of
the Currency, the Federal Reserve Board, the Federal
reserve banks, and the Interesate Commerce Commission
are hereby authorised, under such conditions as they

may prescribe, to make available to the corporation,
in confidence, such reports, records, OF other informilion as they may have available relating to the
condition of applicante with respect to when the corporation has had or contemplates having transactions
under this chapter. OF relating to individuals, associations, partnerships, corporations, OF other obligors
whose obligations are offered to or hold by the corperation as security for loans under this chapter, and to
make, through their examiners OF other employees for

the confidential use of the corporation, examinations

of applicants for leans. Every applicant for a loan

under this chapter shall, as a condition precedent
thereto, consent to such examination as the corporation may require for the purposes of this chapter and
that reports of examinations by constituted authorities
may be furnished by such authorities to the corporation
upon request therefor."
Section 22 of the Federal Nome Lean Bank set, 47 Stat. 739, as

amended (U.S.C., Sup. III, title 12, see. 1443), as 18 appears in the Code,
provides:

"(a) In order to enable the (Federal Name Leas

Bank board to carry out the previsions of this shap-

ter, the Treasury Department, the Comptseller of the
Currency, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, and the Federal reserve banks are hereby authorised, under such conditions as they may prescribe, to

make available to the board in confidence for its use

and the use of any Federal None Loan Bank such reports,

records, or other information as may be available, so-

lating to the condition of institutions with respect to
which say such Federal None Lean Bank has had or com-

templates having transactions under this chapter or relating to persons whese obligations are offered to or
hold by any Federal Name Lean Bank, and to make through

their examiners or other employees, for the confidential

200 of the board OF any Federal Home Less Bank, examina-

tione of such institutions.

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-7((b) Every institution which shall apply for ad-

vances under this chapter shall, as a condition precedent thereto, consent to such examination as the bank
or the board may require for the purposes of this
chapter and/or that reports of examinations by constituted authorities may be furnished by such authorities
to the bank OF the board upon request therefor."
Section 31 of the Farm Credit Act of 1937 (amending section
208(e) of the Federal Farm Loan Act), 50 Stat. 716 (U.S.C., Sup. III.

title 12, sec. 1095), provides:
"The executive departments, boards, commissions,
and independent establishments of the Government, the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation, the Federal Deposit

Insurance Corporation, the Comptroller of the Currency,
the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
and the Federal Reserve banks are severally authorised
under such conditions as they may prescribe, upon the
request of the Farm Credit Administration to make avail-

able to the Farm Credit Administration or any district
bank or district corporation operating under its supervision, in confidence, all reports, records or other
information they may have relating to the condition of
any institution to which the Administration, such distriet bank, or corporation has made or contemplates
making leans or for which it has discounted or contenplates discounting paper, or which 11 is using or contemplates using as a custodian of securities OF other
credit instruments, or as a depositary.

Since, as shown above, there was already ample authority for
making records of the Comptreller of the Currency available to other
Government agencies, those statutes must be regarded as having been on-

acted out of an excess of causion - to sales accurance doubly sure. of.
Jordan v. Reche. (1913) 238 U.S. 436, 4461 Helverine V New York Trust 00..
(1934) 292 U.S. 455, 469.

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.8.
Time 10 will be seen that there is nothing in the recent statates that is inconsistent with the conclusion stated at the outset of
this opinion.

Finally, your attention is directed to Department Circular No.
591 of August 15, 1938 (superseding Department Rule IX), Regulations

Governing the Disclosure of Official Information, issued pursuant to

section 161 of the Revised Statutes of 1873 (U.S.C. title 5, sec. 22),
quoted above. Paragraph 5 of that Circular provides:
"These regulations shall not be applicable to
official requests of other governmental agencies or

officers thereof acting in their official capacities,

unless 10 appears that compliance therewish would be

in violation of law. or inimical to the public in-

terest. Cases of doubt should be referred for do.
cision to the Secretary, the Under Secretary. an
Assistant Secretary, or the Administrative Assistant
to the Secretary."

(Signed) Herman Oliphant
General Councel.

DJS/RND/SVP

typed: 11/20/38.
Copied 1/17/80
am

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My dear Mr. Douglass

I have your letter of November 23, 1938, and copy of
the Commission's proposed order for a hearing in the procoodings against Transameries Corporation.

Pursuant to your request I hereby consent to the public
official use by the Securities and Exchange Commission as
part of the proposed proceedings against Transamerica Corpora-

tion of such of the information obtained from the twenty
examiner's reports of the condition of the Bank of America

N. T. & S. A., and five reports of examination of Transamerica Corporation heretofore furnished your Commission as

bears on the allegations contained in the proposed order
or amendments thereto.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau,Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

nov. 23. 1938

Non. William 0. Douglas

Chairman

Securities and Exchange Commission
Washington, D. c.

12:08 P.M

/Signed
dated by
in Seby

11pm
you out.

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SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON

OFFICE OF THE CHAIRMAN

November 23, 1938.

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

Pursuant to my request, you have caused to

be furnished to the Commission for its confidential

use twenty Examiner's Reports of the Condition of the
Bank of America, N.T.& S.A., dated February 28, 1931,

August 31, 1931, March 31, 1932, November 9, 1932,

April 10, 1933 (two reports), September 18, 1933 (two
reports), June 22, 1934 (two reports), February 11,
1935 (two reports), October 7, 1935, April 27, 1936,
October 14, 1936, April 20, 1937, August 31, 1937 (two

reports), and April 28, 1938 (two reports), respectively,

and five reports of an examination of Transamerica
Corporation dated January 29, 1934, June 30, 1934,
January 31, 1935, August 31, 1935, and March 31, 1936,
respectively.

From an examination of these reports it ap-

pears that all contain information relevant to the

proceeding authorized by the Commission under Section
19(a)( (2) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as
amended, to determine whether the Capital Stock, $2
par value, of Transamerica Corporation should be sus-

pended or withdrawn from listing and registration on

the New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco Stock Ex-

changes. I am attaching a copy of the Commission's
proposed order for hearing in the proceedings authorized.

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The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury.

2.

May I respectfully request your consent to
make public official use, as part of the proposed proceedings, of such of the information obtained from
these twenty-five reports as bears on the allegations

contained in the proposed order or amendments thereof?

Yours faithfully,

cun wangle

William O. Douglas,
Chairman.

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
BEFORE THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

At a regular session of the Securities and Exchange

Commission, held at its offices in the City
of Washington, D. c., on the
day of November, A. D., 1938.

In the Matter of
Proceeding under Section 19(a)(2)
of the Securities Exchange Act
of 1934, as amended, to determine

whether the registration of

TRANSAMERICA CORPORATION

CAPITAL STOCK, #2 PAR VALUE

ORDER FOR HEARING
AND DESIGNATING

OFFICER TO TAKE
TESTIMONY

File No. 1-2964

should be suspended or withdrawn

It appearing to the Commission that Transamerica

Corporation is the issuer of Capital Stock, $2 par value,

and that said Transamerica Corporation registered
11,590,784 shares of such stock on the New York Stock

Exchange, the Los Angeles Stock Exchange, and by, amend-

nent. on the San Francisco Stock Exchange, all national
securities exchanges, by filing on or about August 7,
1937, an application on Form 24 signed for the Corporation
by John M. Grant, President, with the said exchanges and
with the Commission pursuant to section 12(b) of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, and pursuant

to Rule JB1 (now Rule X-123-1) as amended, promulgated by
the Commission thereunder, which application became effective September 10, 1937; and

The Commission having reasonable grounds to believe
that Transamerica Corporation has failed to comply with

the provisions of Section 12(b) of the Securities Exchange
Act of 1934, as amended, the rules, regulations, Form 24
and the Instructions thereto, romulgated by the Commission

thereunder, in that the application for registration on

Form 24 and the amendments thereto, filed by said Corpora-

tion contain false and misleading statements of material

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-2facts, including financial statements of said Corporation and its subsidiaries, which do not correctly reflect
the true financial condition of the Corporation and its
subsidiaries, all as hereinafter more particularly set
forth;

The false and misleading statements which the
Commission has reasonable grounds to believe exist in the
application on Form 24 and the amendments thereto being
more particularly as follows:
I.

Item 4(b) and Item 11, Col. G call for certain
information with respect to all parents of the
registrant. The Instructions to Form 24 define
the term "parent" to include a person in control
of the registrant and the term 'control" is defined
to mean "the possession, direct or indirect, of
the power to direct or cause the direction of the

management and policies of & person, whether

through the ownership of voting securities, by
contract, or otherwise.
The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that in 1934 general proxies, to remain in full
force and effect, unless revoked, for a term of
seven years, were delegated to a Committee com-

posed of A. P. Giannini, John M. Grant and L. M.

Giannini, that such proxies were voted at the

annual meeting of stockholders on March 29, 1934,

and were in effect at the date of the application

on Form 24, and that at such date these proxies
conferred upon A. P. Giannini, John M. Grant and
L. M. Giannini the power to direct the management
and policies of the registrant. It therefore
appears to the Commission that the failure in Item
4(b) and Item 11, Col. G to disclose the committee
composed of A. P. Giannini, John M. Grant and

II.

L. M. Giannini as a parent of the registrant constitutes an omission of a material fact.
Item 28 and Item 29 call for information with
respect to the remuneration paid by the registrant

and its subsidiaries to certain of its officers,

directors and employees.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe
that on January 20, 1930, the sum of 81, ,400,000
was placed on the books of Bankitaly Company of

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-sAmerica (then a sudsidiary of Transamerica

Corporation) to the credit of A. P. Giannini;

that of this $1, 400 000 all but $792,000 had been
paid to A. P. Giannini, by September, 1931, at
which time counsel for the then existing management of Transamerica Corporation advised that

further payment would be illegal; that thereafter
subsequent to the change in management in 1938,
$792,000 the following sums:

A. P. Giannini withdrew from the balance of
1932 - $134,826.58

1933 - 132,896.92
1934 - 100,596.24
1935 - 251,952.03

1936 - 65,914.28
It appears to the Commission that the failure to
disclose these facts in Items 28 and 89 renders
registrant's response to these items materially

misleading.

III. with respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Transamerica
Corporation as of December 31, 1936 -

A.

In Schedule VI the figure $1,171,714.56 is
set forth as a charge to #Paid-In Surplus*
in 1936 under the caption "Charge resulting

from cancellations and redistribution of
capital stock."
The Commission has reasonable grounds to

believe that of this amount $1,194,724.

represents commissions and other monies paid
by Transamerica Corporation to Associated

American Distributors, Inc. (at that time a

wholly-owned subsidiary of Inter-Continental
Corporation which was itself a wholly-owned
subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation), in

connection with the following activities:

From 1934 to April 1937, Associated American

Distributors, Inc. engaged in the business of
soliciting orders to purchase Transamerica
Corporation stook on the various stock exchanges
on which such stock was listed. It does not
appear that in any case Associated American

Distributors, Inc. solicited orders for the

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.4.
purchase of capital stock held by Transamories
Corporation. The solicitations were effected
by means of contracts entered into by Associated
American Distributors, Inc. with independent
dealers and through a large number of salesmen employed directly by Associated American

Distributors, Inc. Associated American Distributors, Inc. paid commissions to the dealers
and to its salesmen for the orders obtained and,
to encourage retention of the stock so purchased,
additional commissions were paid in proportion
to the duration of #placements. To support
these activities, Transamerica Corporation paid
the following amounts to Associated American

Distributors, Inc. In 1934, $336,857; in

1935, $891,202.17; in 1936, $1,124,724.76
These payments were treated by Associated

American Distributors, Inc. as current earnings
and were set up on its books as income in the

years received.

In the light of the facts set forth above, it

appears to the Commission that the commissions
and other monies paid to Associated American

Distributors, Inc., in the amount of $1,124,724. 78
in 1936, represent a current expense properly

chargeable to profit and loss and that registrant's treatment of this item as a charge to
*Paid-In Surplus* and its failure to reflect

this item as a current expense with a consequent
reduction in "Earned Surplus* renders the
"Balance Sheet" and Schedule VI materially

misleading.
IV.

With respect to the "Profit and Loss Statement*
of Transamerica Corporation A. Schedule VI sets forth as charges to *Paid-In
Surplus* under the caption "Charge resulting

from cancellations and redistribution of capital

stock" the figures $495,152.72 in 1934, $891,202.17
in 1935 and $1,171,714.56 in 1936.
The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that of these figures $336, in 1934, $891,202.17

in 1935, and $1,124,724.78 in 1936 represent
commissions and other monies paid by Transamerica

Corporation to Associated American Distributors,

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-5Inc. (then a wholly-owned subsidiary of Inter
Continental Corporation which was itself a
wholly-owned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation) in connection with the activities
described above in paragraph III-A. In the
light of the facts and for the reasons set
forth above in paragraph III-A, it appears to
the Commission that registrant's treatment of
these items renders the profit and loss state-

ments for 1934, 1935, and 1936 materially misleading.

V.

with respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Inter-America

Corporation as of December 31, 1936 A.

Under the caption "Reserves - For liability
and possible loss under outstanding contract
of guaranty", and in Schedule V relating to
additions and charges to "Reserves", there is
set orth the figure $9,302,381.82. The
accompanying Note states that this amount
relates to a contract of guaranty given to Bank
of America N.T. and S.A. in connection with
certain assets of the Bank.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that certain facts having a material bearing on
this matter are as follows:

examiners
Bank
in the $35,214,000

In 1931, in the course of an examination of
Bank of America N.T. & S.A., the national bank

as
losses
unsatisfactory as to elimination

tracts 1931,

from the balance three conand February
Bank N.T.
&
S.A.
and
of
America
which
were at owned Transamerica

Bank
itself
a
subsidiary of Transamerion Corporation), entered
Holding dated face character that Bank's Corporation classified and amount 13, Company, June time doubtful 1932, 99.65% 26, of certain 1931, approximately accounts sheet. require of December assets by wholly-owned America of Under (both their such of 31, of the

into agreements which provided that Bank of

America N.T. & S.A. "agrees to sell, transfer

and set over and does hereby sell, transfer and
set over to the Corporation, and the Corporation
agrees to purchase and does hereby purchase

from the Bank" all such assets. As consideration

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for these assets, Corporation of America agreed
to pay the face amount of $35,214,000. To
secure performance Corporation of America pledged
with the Bank the assets purchased together with

additional collateral. Corporation of America
failed to give effect on its books to the assets
acquired by these contracts of purchase and sale

or to reflect any direct liability thereunder,
but apparently treated the obligation arising

under the contracts as a guaranty by setting up
a reserve from capital surplus in an amount approximately equal to the aggregate purchase price
under the contracts.

In 1933, the three contracts were transferred to

Transamerica Bank Holding Company, and Transamerica

Bank Holding Company by a resolution of its Board
of Directors, dated August 30, 1933, agreed to

"assume all of the obligations of Corporation of

America under those three certain contracts between
said Corporation of America and Bank of America N.T.

& S.A." In connection with this transfer, Corporation of America eliminated the reserve set up to
cover its obligation under the contracts, then ag-

gregating approximately $34,994,376.57, and a reserve
in the same amount appeared on the books of Transamerica Bank Holding Company. At a "Special
Stockholders Meeting" on April 20, 1935, the name

of Transameries Bank Holding Company was changed to

Inter-America Corporation. From time to time Bank
of America N.T.& S.A. reduced the item set up on

its books to reflect the obligation of Inter-

America Corporation under the three contracts by a
write-up of unrelated assets and by various other
means as set forth below under paragraphs VII to XI,

and XV to XVII, both inclusive.

In the light of the facts set forth, it appears to
the Commission that the items "Reserves - For

liability and possible loss under outstanding con-

traet of guaranty' together with the accompanying
Note, Schedule v, and the "Balance Sheet" are
materially misleading:

1. In treating the contracts described and the
obligation of Inter-America Corporation thereunder as a guaranty rather than as a purchase
and sale which should have been recorded by

setting up the assets purchased with a corresponding direct liability for the purchase
price and, in view of the character of the
assets, a reserve for the losses which would

be borne by Inter-America Corporation;

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In that the amount set up as "Reserves" for

this obligation does not reflect the true amount
of the liability due nor the possible losses

under the contracts;

3. In the use of the term *recoveries" in Schedule
V as charges to the "Reserve" originally set up
to cover Inter-America's obligation under the
three contracts, in that the term "recoveries"
fails to indicate and falsifies the true nature
of the reduction of Inter-America's obligation

by conveying the impression of actual cash recoveries on assets written down, whereas in fact
the *recoveries* were accomplished by the writeup by Bank of America N.T. & S.A. of unrelated
assets as set forth below in paragraphs VII to
XI and XV to XVII, both inclusive.

VI.

with respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Transamerica
General Corporation as of December 31, 1936 -

A. Under the caption "Investments in Securities

of Affiliates* and in Schedule II there is

set forth the figure $8,982,180.20 as the
carrying value of the investment in the capital
stock of Banca d'America e d'Italia.

The Commission has reasonable grounds to be-

lieve that certain restrictions imposed by the
Italian Government upon the transfer of any
profits or other funds from Italy to any other
country materially affects this investment.
It therefore appears to the Commission that it
is materially misleading to set forth the
figure 9,982,180.20 as the carrying value of
the investment in the capital stock of Banea
d'America . d'Italia without indicating the
effect that the restrictions referred to above

may have upon the investment.
VII.

with respect to the "Combined Report of Condition"
of Bank of America N.T.& S.A., First National Bank
in Reno, Bank of America (California) as of
December 31, 1936 -

A. The item "Loans and discounts" under "Assets"
and in Schedule E is stated to be $539,899,100.65
This figure includes, among other things, loans
in the amount of $304,674,551.73 on "farm lands*
and "other real estate." The Commission has

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-8reasonable grounds to believe that the
item of 3539, 899,100.65 includes estimated
losses and doubtful accounts aggregating
in excess of $8,000,000 and slow accounts
in excess of $125,000,000 held by Bank of
America N.T.4 S.A. Registrant has failed
to disclose these lesses, doubtful items
and slow accounts in the "Report of Condi-

tion", either in Schedule E or elsewhere in
the registration statement, has failed to

provide any reserve for such losses and doubtful accounts, and, in the supplementary data
furnished in accordance with paragraph I(5)
of the Instructions as to Financial Statements
in the Instruction Book for Form 24, has
affirmatively stated that there are no losses
on loans and discounts not provided for.

B. "United States Government obligations, direct
and/or fully guaranteed" and "Other bonds,
stocks and securities" are set forth under
"Assets" and in Schedule F and Schedule a
at $478, 019,771.38 and $175,078,108.60 respectively. The Commission has reasonable

grounds to believe that these items include

United States Government and Municipal securities held by Bank of America N.T.&SS.A. which

were written up in 1935 and 1936 to the extent
of approximately $14,000,000 and which at
the date of the "Report of Condition" included
an unrealized appreciation of approximately

$9,000,000. The registrant has failed to
disclose this fact in either Schedule F.
Schedule o, the supplementary data furnished
in accordance with paragraph I(5) of the Instruction Book for Form 24, or elsewhere in
the registration statement.

C. The only provision for a reserve, captioned
"Reserve for contingencies", is set at
$2,049,928.01. The Commission has reason to
believe that $1,971,058.48 of this figure is
applicable to Bank of America N.T.& S.A., and
that of this $1,971,058.48, approximately
$1,460,000 is a reserve for self-insurance.
The Commission further has reason to believe
that this reserve is misleading because of its
inadequacy -

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1. In failing to provide for losses and doubtful
accounts of Bank of America N.T. & S.A. other

than loans on "farm lands" and "other real
estate" included in the "Assets" to the extent

of approximately $8,000,000;

2. In failing to provide sufficient reserves for
the $304, 674, 551.73 of loans on "farm lands"

and "other real estate";

3. In failing to provide for losses on real estate
other than bank premises held by Bank of America
N. T. & S. A. to the extent of approximately
$1,600,000;

4.

In failing to provide sufficient depreciation

for bank premises, furniture, and fixtures of Bank
of America N.T. & S. A.;

5. In failing to provide for losses on bonds and

other securities held by Bank of America N.T.
& S. A. to the extent of approximately $400,000
and for losses on other asset items to the extent
of approximately $300,000.

D. "Undivided profits - net" is set forth at $22,503,612.05.
The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe that

this figure is false and misleading 1. In that it includes approximately $9,000,000 of

unrealized appreciation resulting from the
$14,000,000 write-up in 1935 and 1936 of United
States and Municipal securities held by Bank of
America N.T. & S.A.,

2. In failing to include a reserve for losses and

doubtful accounts, losses on real estate, depreciation of bank premises, furniture and fixtures
of Bank of America N.T. & S.A. and losses on securities and other assets in excess of $15,000,000;

3. In that the total of (1) and (2) would wipe out
that portion of the "Undivided profits - net"
which may be attributed to Bank of America N.T.

& S.A. and would require a reduction of the "surplus" account of Bank of America N.T. & S.A.

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- 10 VIII.

With respect to the "Combined Report of Earnings and
Dividends" for Bank of America N.T. & S.A., First National Bank In Reno and Bank of America (California) A. For the year ended December 31, 1935 1. The items "Recoveries on bonds, stocks and other

securities" and "Profits on securities sold" are
has reason to believe that this figure includes
stated to total $14,942,992.07. The Commission

unrealized appreciation of approximately $7,000,000
resulting from an approximately $8,000,000 write-

up in 1935 of United States Government and Municipal

securities held by Bank of America N.T. & S.A., and,
in addition, includes a substantial amount of unrealized appreciation resulting from the write-up
of certain Transamerica Corporation stock held by
Bank of America N.T. & S.A. as collateral for writ-

ten off loans, and that the inclusion of this

unrealized as false and mis-

2.ing
The set
on "bankat
$1,055,223.40. reason to be3.flected
The (2)
are
reand unlieve

leading; house, deficiencies provision that in furniture this appreciation the for statement The figure set loss Commission forth and and is of fixtures" inadequate; depreciation in income net (1) has profits and is is

divided profits and render these items false and

misleading to an amount in excess of $7,000,000.
It appears that the dividends paid in 1935 by
Bank of America N.T. & S.A. were more than

$3,500,000 in excess of its actual current earnings.

B. For the year ended December 31, 1936 -

1. The item "Recoveries on bonds, stocks and other

securities" is stated to be $6,309,400.26 The

Commission has reasonable grounds to believe that

this figure includes unrealized appreciation of

approximately $2,000,000 resulting from a
$6,000,000 write-up in 1936 of United States
Government and Municipal securities held by Bank

of America, N.T. & S.A., and, in addition, includes a substantial amount of unrealized appreciation resulting from the write-up of certain
Transamerica Corporation stock held by Bank of

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- 11 America N.T. & S.A. as collateral for written
off loans, and that the inclusion of this unrealized appreciation as income is false and

misleading;

2. The report of Earnings and Dividends further appears misleading in that no provision from earnings has been made for doubtful accounts and
uncollectible foreign credits held by Bank of America

N.T. & S.A. which the Commission has reasonable grounds
to believe aggregated approximately $3,700,000;

3. The provision for losses and depreciation on

"banking house, furniture and fixtures" is set

at $1,082,748.86. The Commission has reasonable

grounds to believe that this figure is inade-

quate.

4. The deficiencies set forth in (1), (2) and (3)
are reflected in the statement of net profits

and undivided profits and render these items
false and misleading to an amount in excess of
$6,000,000. It appears that the dividends paid in

1936 by Bank of America N.T.& S.A. were more than

$1,500,000 in excess of its actual current earnings.

IX. With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of California Lands,
Inc., as of December 31, 1936 -

A. Schedule VII relating to "Surplus" sets forth as an
addition to "Earned Surplus" under the caption "Profit
on sale of assets purchased from affiliate" the sum of
$297,918.26. The accompanying Note states that this
amount represents the excess of realization over the

cost to California Lands, Inc. of an undivided one-

half interest in certain notes, parts of notes, deficiency judgments, etc., theretofore written off on

the books of Bank of America N.T. & S.A. and purchased
from the Bank by Inter-America Corporation and from

Inter-America Corporation by California Lands, Inc.
The Commission has reason to believe that certain
facts having a material bearing on this matter are
as follows:

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- 12 on February 1, 1933, Bank of America N.T. & S.A.
sold to Corporation of America (both of which
were at this time 99.65% owned by Transamerica
Bank Holding Company, itself a wholly-owned sub-

sidiary of Transamerica Corporation), for a consideration of $250,000 all of the Bank's charged
off assets, including those to be charged off up
to July 1, 1933. This agreement was transferred

for the same consideration to Transamerica General
Corporation and then to Transamerica Bank Holding
Company (both wholly-owned subsidiaries of Transamerica Corporation). On January 2, 1934, Bank
of America N.T. & S.A. sold to Transamerica Bank
Holding Company for a consideration of $50,000 all

of the assets of the Bank chargedoff from July 1,
1933, to July 1, 1937. At a Special Stockholders

Meeting on April 20, 1935, the name of Transamerica
Bank Holding Company was changed to Inter-America
Corporation.

On October 1, 1936, Inter-America Corporation transferred the charged off assets covered by the two
aforementioned agreements to California Lands, Inc.
and Capital Company (both wholly-owned subsidiaries
of Transamerica General Corporation which corporation was 100% owned by Transamerica Corporation)

for an aggregate consideration of $500,000.

on July 14. 1937, California Lands, Inc. and

Capital Company transferred these same assets less
$1,486,185.67 collected by Inter-America Corporation

(for the account of California Lands, Inc. and
Capital Company) to Bank of America N.T. & S.A. for
a consideration of $6,500,000. Thus, in 1937,

Bank of America N.T. & S.A. paid $6, 500,000 for a
portion of the same assets which the Bank had
originally sold in 1933 and 1934 for $300,000.

As part of this same transaction, Transamerica
Corporation entered into an agreement guaranteeing
the Bank against loss to the extent of $6,500,000
on the charged off assets repurchased.

In the light of the facts set forth above, it ap-

pears to the Commission that the figure $297,918.26
set forth in Schedule VII as "Earned Surplus* under

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from affiliate", together with the accompanying
Note, and the inclusion of this amount in the
"Earned surplus - deficit* in the "Balance Sheets
are materially misleading.
X. with respect to the "Balance Sheet' of Capital Company
as of December 31, 1936 -

A.

Schedule VII relating to "Surplus" sets forth as
an addition to "Earned Surplus* as "Profit on sale
of assets purchased from affiliate* the sum of

$297,919.23. The accompanying Note states that
this amount represents the excess of realization
over the cost to Capital Company of an undivided

one-half interest in certain notes, parts of notes,
deficiency judgments, etc. theretofore written

off on the books of Bank of America N.T. & S.A.
and purchased from the Bank by Inter-America Corporation and from Inter-America Corporation by

Capital Company.

In the light of the facts set forth above under paragraph IX-A, it appears to the Commission that the
figure $297,919.23 set forth in Schedule VII as
*Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate*
together with the accompanying Note, and the inclusion of this amount as "Earned Surplus* in the
"Balance Sheet" are materially misleading.

It appearing to the Commission that pursuant to Section 13(a) and (b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as
amended, and Rules KA1 and KA2 (now Rules X-13A-1 and X-13A-2)

promulgated by the Commission thereunder, Transamerica Corpora-

tion filed on or about June 27, 1938, its annual report on

Form 24-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 1937, signed
for the Corporation by John M. Grant, President; and
The Commission having reasonable grounds to believe
that said Transamerica Corporation has failed to comply with

the provisions of Section 13(a) and (b) of the Securities

Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, the rules, regulations, Form
24-K and the Instructions thereto, promulgated by the Commission thereunder, in that the annual report on Form 24-K filed
by said Transamerica Corporation contains false and mislead-

ing statements of material facts including financial statements
of said Transamerica Corporation and its subsidiaries, which

do not correctly reflect the true financial condition of the

Corporation and its subsidiaries, all as hereinafter more particularly set forth;

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- 14 The false and misleading statements which the Commission has reasonable grounds to believe exist in the annual

report referred to above being more particularly as follows:
with respect to the "Balance Sheet* of Transamerica
XI.
Corporation as of December 31, 1937 -

A. Note B referring to the items captioned "Marketable Securities" and "Investments in Securities of
Affiliates" states that securities having a market
value of $1,338,835 and investments in securities

of affiliates having a carrying value of $5,636,576.32
were pledged as security *(1) in connection with a
contract of guarantee and (2) on an option to pur-

chase certain securities. Note I referring to "Gontingent Liabilities* states that "At December 31,

1937, the Corporation was reported as being contingently liabile sio under certain conditions of
contract in the amount of $5,838,123.74.
1. The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that certain additional facts having a material
bearing on the "contract of guarantee* referred
to in Note B are as follows:

In connection with the transactions described
above under paragraph IX-A, in which a portion
of the charged off assets of Bank of America N.T.
& S.A., originally sold by the Bank in 1933 and
1934 for an aggregate consideration of $300,000,
were repurchased by the Bank on July 14, 1937,
from California Lands, Inc. and Capital Company
for a consideration of $6,500,000, Transamerica

Corporation entered into an agreement guaranteeing

the Bank against loss to the extent of $6,500,000
on the assets repurchased. The reference in
Notes B and I to a "contract of guarantee* apparently refers to this agreement.

In the light of the facts set forth above in this

paragraph and in paragraph IX-A, and in the light
of the apparent disparity between the actual
value of the assets repurchased by the Bank and

the amount of recovery guaranteed by Transamerica

Corporation, it appears to the Commission that
Notes B and I and the "Balance Sheet" are grossly
inadequate to reflect the nature of Transamerica's
obligation under the contract of guarantee.

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- 15 2. The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe

that certain additional facts having a material
bearing on the "option to purchase certain securities" referred to in Note B are as follows:

In July, 1937, Bank of America N.T. & S.A. purchased from Transamerica Corporation 56,600 shares
of stock of National City Bank at the then market

price of $48 per share. It appears that the stock

purchased was set up on the books of Bank of
America N.T. & S.A. at $2,716,800, the purchase
price, and that payment was made by crediting
$2,716,800 to Inter-America Corporation to reduce
by that amount the balance of the $35,214,000 obligation originally undertaken by Inter-America
Corporation under the circumstances set forth

in paragraph V-A. As part of the contract of

purchase and sale of National City Bank stock,
Transamerica Corporation agreed to repurchase

the stock at 348 per share over a period of 5
years at the rate of 11,320 shares each year,
and pledged an additional block of 18,400 shares
to secure this agreement. It further appears that

on December 31, 1937, the market value of National
City Bank stock was approximately $27 per share.
The reference in Note B to "an option to purchase

certain securities" apparently relates to this

transaction.

It appears to the Commission that the foregoing
transaction was a device employed in an attempt

to reduce or eliminate the balance of the obligation originally undertaken by Inter-America Corporation, and that the designation and treatment

of this transaction as an "option" and the failure
to disclose the additional information set forth

above and the circumstances surrounding this transaction renders Notes B and I and the "Balance Sheet"
materially misleading.

B. In Schedule VIII the figure $444,000 is set forth as
a charge to "Paid-In Surplus' in 1937 under the caption
"Contribution to Associated American Distributors (Incorporated) in connection with redistribution of
capital stock."
The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe that
this amount represents commissions and other monies

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paid by Transamerica Corporation to Associated American

Distributors, Inc., (then a wholly-owned subsidiary
of Inter-Continental Corporation which was a whollyowned subsidiary of Transamerica General Corporation,
itself a wholly-owned subsidiary of Transamerica

Corporation) in connection with the activities described above in paragraph III-A.

In the light of the facts and for the reasons set
forth above in paragraph III-A, it appears to the Commission that registrant's treatment of this item renders
the "Balance Sheet" and Schedule VIII materially mis-

leading.

XII. With respect to the "Profit and Loss Statement" of
Transamerica Corporation -

A. In Schedule VIII the figure $444,000 is set forth

as a charge to "Paid-In Surplus" in 1937 under the
caption "Contribution to Associated American Dis-

tributors (Incorporated) in connection with re-

distribution of capital stock."

The Commission has reasonable grounds to believe that
this amount represents commissions and other monies paid
by Transamerica Corporation to Associated American Dis-

tributors, Inc., (then a wholly-owned subsidiary of

er-Continental Corporation which was a wholly-owned

subsidiary of Transamerica General Corporation, itself
a wholly-owned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation)
in connection with the activities described above in
paragraph III-A.

In the light of the facts and for the reasons set forth
in paragraph III-A, it appears to the Commission that
registrant's treatment of this item renders the "Profit

and Loss Statement" and Schedule VIII materially misleading.

XIII.With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Inter-America Corporation as of June 30, 1937 -

A. Under the caption "Reserves - For liability and possible
loss under outstanding contract of guaranty", and in
Schedule VI relating to additions and charges to "Reserves",
there is set forth the figure $8,561,099.82.

In the light of the facts set forth above under paragraph

V-A, it appears to the Commission that the items "Reserves -

For liability and possible loss under outstanding contract

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- 17 of guaranty", Schedule VI, and the "Balance
Sheet" are materially misleading:

1. In treating the contracts described in paragraph
V-A and the obligation of Inter-America Corporation thereunder as a guaranty rather than as a

purchase and sale which should have been recorded

by setting up the assets purchased with a corres-

ponding direct liability for the purchase price,
and, in view of the character of the assets, a
reserve for the losses which would be borne by
Inter-America Corporation;

2. In that the amount set up as "Reserves" for this
obligation does not reflect the true amount of
the liability due nor the possible losses under
the contracts;

3. In the use of the term "recoveries" in Schedule
VI as charges to the "Reserves" originally set
up to cover Inter-America's obligation under the
three contracts, in that such term fails to indicate the true nature of the reduction of InterAmerica's obligations.

XIV. With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Transamerica General
Corporation as of December 31, 1937 -

A. Under the caption "Investments in Securities of

Affiliates - Banks" there is set forth the figure
$9,374,148.06. In Schedule II it is stated that
the investment in the capital stock of Banca l'America
e d'Italia is carried on the balance sheet at the
amount of $8,982,321.85.

In the light of the facts set forth above under paragraph VI-A, it appears to the Commission that it is
materially misleading to set forth the figure
$8,982,321.85 as the carrying value of the investment
in the capital stock of Banca d'America . d'Italia
without indicating the effect that the restrictions
referred to in paragraph VI-A may have upon this investment.

XV. With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of California Lands,
Inc., as of December 31, 1937 -

A. Schedule IX relating to "Surplus" sets forth as an

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"Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate"

the sum of $3,595,120.54. The accompanying Note

states that of this amount $545,120.54 represents

the excess of realization over the cost to California
Lands, Inc. of an undivided one-half interest in
certain notes, parts of notes, deficiency judgments,
etc., thereSofore written off on the books of Bank

of America N.T. & S.A. and purchased from the Bank
by Inter-America Corporation and from Inter-America

Corporation by California Lands, Inc., and that the
remaining $3,250,000 represents the share of California
Lands, Inc. in $6,500,000 which on July 14, 1937,
Bank of America N.T. & S.A. agreed to pay to California
Lands, Inc. and Capital Company for the right to future
recoveries on these same assets. The Note further
states that in connection with this purchase Transamerica
Corporation entered into an agreement whereby it guaranteed that the Bank would recover the amount of
$6,500,000 at an annual rate of $1,300,000.

In the light of the facts set forth above under para-

graph IX-A, it appears to the Commission that the
figure $5, 595,120.54 set forth in Schedule IX as
"Earned Surplus" under the caption "Profit on sale
of assets purchased from affiliate" together with
the accompanying Note, and the inclusion of this

amount as "Earned Surplus" in the "Balance Sheet"

are materially misleading.

XVI. With respect to the "Balance Sheet" of Capital Company as
of December 31, 1937 -

A. Schedule IX relating to "Surplus" sets forth as an
addition to "Earned Surplus" under the caption
"Profit on sale of assets purchased from affiliate"
the sum of $5,595,119.56. The accompanying Note

states that of this amount $345,119.56 represents

the excess of realization over the cost to Capital

Company of an undivided one-half interest in certain
notes, parts of notes, deficiency judgments, etc.,
theretofore written off on the books of Bank of

America N.T. & S.A. and purchased from the Bank by
Inter-America Corporation and from Inter-America Corporation by Capital Company, and that the remaining
$3,250,000 represents the share of Capital Company in
$6,500,000 which on July 14, 1937, Bank of America

N.T. & S.A. agreed to pay to California Lands, Inc.
and Capital Company for the right to future recoveries
on these same assets. The Note further states that
in connection with this purchase. Transamorica Cor-

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poration entered into an agreement whereby it

guaranteed that the Bank would recover the amount

of $6,500,000 at an annual rate of $1,300,000.

In the light of the fasts set forth above under

paragraph IX-A, it appears to the Commission that

the figure $5,595,119.56 set forth in Schedule
IX as "Earned Surplus" under the caption "Profit
on sale of assets purchased from affiliate" to-

gether with the accompanying Note, and the inclusion
of this amount as "Earned Surplus" in the "Balance
Sheet" are materially misleading.
The Commission having reasonable grounds to believe

that Transamerica Corporation has failed to comply with the
provisions of Section 12(b) and Section 13(a) and (b) of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, the rules, regulations, Form 24, Form 24-K, and the Instructions thereto,
promulgated by the Commission thereunder, in that the applioation for registration on Form 24, the annual report on Form
24-K and the amendments thereto, filed by said Transamerica
Corporation contain financial statements of Transamerica
Corporation and its subsidiaries, which do not correctly
reflect the true financial condition of Transamerica Corporation and its subsidiaries, as hereinafter more particularly
set forth;

XVII. It appears to the Commission that the general policy
of Transamerica Corporation and its subsidiaries with
respect to the manner of creation and treatment of
certain "reserves" and the adequacy thereof, is
improper in the following respects:
A. In the elimination of "reserves" on the books of
certain companies and the creation of fiotitious

"reserves" in similar or substantially similar

amounts on the books of other companies in the

Transamerica group for the purpose of utilizing

such "reserves" to absorb losses with consequent

distortion of the true financial condition of
the separate corporate entities and of the entire
group as a whole in particular, with respect to

the "reserves" set up on the "Balance Sheets of

Transamerica General Corporation as of December

31, 1936, and December 31, 1937, "for real estate

losses and contingencies of controlled affiliates"

in the amounts of $6,861,814.19 in 1936 and
$1,700,050.82 in 1937, and $5,034,583.95 in 1936
and $1,168,002.35 in 1937, for Capital Company

and California Lands, Inc., respectively;

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- 20 B. In that the amount of the reserves provided on the
books of the various companies in the fransameries

group is materially inadequate; in particular, the
Combined Report of Condition" of Bank of America

N.T. & S.A., First National Bank in Reno, and

Bank of America (California) as of December 31,
1936, shows "Loans and discounts" in the amount of
$539,899,100.65 which includes among other things,
loans in the amount of $304,674,551.78 on "farm

lands" and "other real estate". The only reserve
in this "Combined Report of Condition" is designated
as "Reserve for contingencies" and is set forth
at $2,049,928.01, of which approximately $1,460,000

is a reserve for self-insurance, leaving a balance
of $589,928.01. In its "Balance Sheet" as of

December 31, 1935, Capital Company carried "Real
Estate Held for Resale," at $51, 379, 652.11, which
amount represented "Land, Buildings and Improvements",

and as of the same date, California Lands, Inc.

carried "Real Estate and Equipment Held for Resale"
at $31,357,098.76, which amount included "Land,
Buildings and Improvements" at $51,335,825.76,
with no reserve on the books of either company

applicable to such assets. As of the same date,

Occidental Life Insurance Company (a wholly owned
subsidiary of Transamerica General Corporation,

itself a wholly owned subsidiary of Transamerica
Corporation) showed on its books "mortgage loans
on real estate" and "balance due on property sold
under contract" in the amounts of $8,175,516.57
and $5,856,986.05 respectively, with no reserves
applicable thereto. These various items of loans,
discounts. and investments in real estate aggregate
$634,668,354.12 against which there is an aggregate
reserve of but $589,928.01.

C. In that because of the nature of the "reserves"

referred to above under A, it was improper to charge
losses and expenses against such "reserves";
D. In the treatment of losses and expenses which were
not present at the date of a readjustment of accounts
but resulted from events occurring subsequent thereto
as charges to certain reserves created at the time
of such readjustment.

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IVIII. Itinfurther
appears for
to the
Commission
that registrant,
its application
registration
on Form
24 and in
its annual report for 1937 on Form 24-K, has failed
to file financial statements for itself and its subsidiaries certified in accordance with the requirements
of paragraph II of the Instructions as to Financial
Statements in the Instruction Books for Form 24 and
Form 24-K, respectively.

It being the opinion of the Commission that the hearing
herein ordered to be made is necessary and proper in the public
interest and to aid in the enforcement of the provisions of the
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended;

IT IS ORDERED, pursuant to Section 19(a)(2) of said
Act, that a public hearing be held to determine whether
Transamerica Corporation has failed to comply with Section 12(b)
and Section 13(a) and (b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934,
as amended, the rules, regulations and forms promulgated by the
Commission thereunder, in the respects set forth above; and if

so, whether it is necessary or appropriate for the protection
of investors to suspend for a period not exceeding twelve months

or to withdraw the registration of said Corporation's Capital

Stock, $2 par value, on said New York Stock Exchange, Los Angeles

Stock Exchange and San Francisco Stock Exchange;

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, pursuant to the provisions of

Section 21(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended,
that for the purposes of such hearing, Edward C. Johnson, an
officer of the Commission, is hereby designated to administer oaths
and affirmations, subpoena witnesses, compel their attendance,
take evidence, and require the production of any books, papers,
correspondence, memoranda, or other records deemed relevant or

material to the inquiry, and to perform all other duties in con-

nection therewith authorized by law;

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that the taking of testimony

in this hearing begin on the 16th day of January, 1939, at 10:00

A.M. in Room 1101, Securities and Exchange Commission Building,
1778 Pennsylvania Avenue, N. W., Washington,D.C. and continue

thereafter at such time and place as the officer hereinbefore

designated may determine.

By the Commission.

Francis P. Brassor
Secretary

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY
WASHINGTON
ADDRESS REPLY TO

COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY"

November 23, 1938

Board of Directors,
Bank of America N.T.& S.A.,

San Francisco, California.
Gentlemen:

In further reference to your letter of October 11,

1938, this office has given much thought and attention to
the matters under discussion between us. We shall be pleased
to comply with your request for a meeting with the management

of your bank to clarify the issues raised in our letter of
September 23, 1938, at any time they may care to come to
Washington.

In the meantime, we want to reiterate our position as
to the necessity for the correction of certain practices which,
for several years, have been the subject of so much criticism
in our reports of examination as well as in communications from

this office and in interviews with your officers. We must

continue to insist upon (1) proper standards of banking prac-

tice, (2) a reduction in the percentage of criticized assets,
and (3) an increase in capital ratio. We again emphasize the
necessity of immediate action to achieve these corrections,
including the conservation of earnings.
We can not urge too strongly that you proceed with
every power at your command to the end that these tasks be
performed effectively and expeditiously.

Very truly yours,
Preston Delano

Comptroller of the Currency

November 22, 1938

Further reference is made to your letter of October 11, 1938
signed by the individual members of the Board of Directors who attended
the special meeting of the Board held on September 30, 1938 to consider the
letter of September 23, 1938 from the Acting Comptroller of the Currency to

the Board of Directors. It is noted that Mr. A. P. Giannini, Chairman of
the Board, did not sign the letter although he was present at the special
meeting of the Board of Directors of September 30.

The Board of Directors, in its letter, states that Examiner Palmer
suddenly appeared before the Board at its meeting on September 13, 1938

with a telegram from the Acting Comptroller of the Currency, which he read

to the Board, and in a startling performance, delivered criticisms of the
bank on items with respect to which the Comptroller of the Currency had never
theretofore communicated formally with the management or the Board of Direc-

tors, and that the Board feels that, for such reason, there was not sufficient
background to justify the telegram and the criticisms delivered by the examiner.
At 1:30 P.M. on September 13, Examiner Palmer had arranged with the

Chairman of the Board to read a telegram from the Acting Comptroller of the

Currency to the Board of Directors at 4:00 P.M. on that day, the time fixed
for the meeting of the Board and the time set by the Chairman for the appearance of the examiner before the Board. The examiner was required to wait a
considerable length of time past the appointed hour before he was permitted to

appear before the Board, during which interval the Board of Directors declared
dividend. Even though the dividend may have been declared prior to the read-

ing of the telegram from this office to the Board of Directors by Examiner
Palmer, and even though the Board may have had no knowledge of the contents

of the telegram at the time of the declaration of the dividend, the meeting
of the Board of Directors, at which the dividend was declared, had not been
Journed until after the telegram had been read to, and discussed by, the
oard of Directors, and there remained ample opportunity for the Board of D1-

-

rectors to have reconsidered the action taken by them, had they been so
disposed. The fact that the bank's management may have given out a press

notice, subject to release, in advance of the declaration of a dividend by
the Board of Directors, does not justify the failure of the Board to have
reconsidered the action taken by it after the warning contained in the telegram had been read to the Board by Examiner Palmer. This failure is indicative of the fact that the Board has not been fully advised by the management

as to the problems of the bank or of the fact that the Board did not exercise
its independent judgment, but approved the decision and policy determined
upon by the management F Reports of examination have repeatedly criticised

the dividend policy of the bank over a long period of time. These reports
of examination were transmitted to the bank, addressed to the Board of Direc-

tors. The Board is expected to acquaint itself with, and is chargeable with
knowledge of, the contents thereof. If the directors had familiarized themselves with the reports of examination they would have known of the repeated

criticisms by this office of the highly unsatisfactory asset and capital condition of the bank and of the hazard, under these circumstances, of the policy
of paying dividends at an ever-increasing rate. The management of the bank

has reviewed reports of examination with the examiner The services ofthe
examiner are and always have been available to the Board or a committee there-

of, to review reports of examination of the bank.

The Board of Directors, in its letter, criticises the manner in
which this office transmitted its letter of criticism of September 23 to
the individual members of the Board, as a consequence of which, it is asserted,
number of persons not connected with the bank became apprised of all the
)

criticisms which this office asked the Board to consider and answer. This

office did take proper precautions to secure the delivery of this letter to
the person addressed without its going through the hands of other individuals,
and, of course, it can assume no responsibility for the imprudent acts of

employees of the directors. The letter of criticism," based upon the report
of examination as of April 28, 1938, was sealed in an envelope, on the front
of which was placed the name of the director and the words "Personal and Con-

-3fidential. . This sealed envelope was enclosed in a second sealed envelope,

addressed to the individual director, and the words "Special Delivery" and
Registered - Return Receipt Required" were placed on the outside envelope.

If that precaution was not taken with the letter of September 16, in which
was enclosed a copy of the telegram of September 13, this office has genuine
regret for that circumstance.

The Directors, in their letter. assert that they do not understand
why the management should be criticised for being desirous of publishing
large earning statements and that their published earning statements have

always conformed to the facts. This office does not object to any national
bank publishing its earnings as long as the amount of earnings conforms to the

facts and the information published is not misleading to the general public.
The office criticism WAS directed at the fact that the amount of net earnings
as revealed in published statements has not conformed with the amount of net

addition to profits reported by the bank to the Comptroiler of the Currency.
The following table illustrates the wide variance between the net addition

to profits of the bank officially reported to this office, and the net earnings published for the benefit of the public.
(Amounts in thousands of dollars)
(1)

(2)

(3)

Net current
operating

Net audition

earnings re-

to profits

ported to
Comptroller

reported to
Comptroller

Published
net

earnings

Col. (3) as
percent of

Col. (2)

1934

7,216

(red) 2,638

8,869

1935

8,164

9,858

16,276

166

1936

11,495

12,452

22,522

180

1937

12,666

12,549

19,203

152

6,793

7,988

12,321

154

1938-

1st half

How is the difference between the figures reported to the Comptroller of the

Currency as net addition to profits and reported to the public as net earnings in the above table in any year accounted for? Does the figure published

for

the it of the public as net earnings fail to make provision for

the

charge off of losses and the setting up of required reserves for bond

amortisation and criticised assets? If so, what is the purpose in publishing that rd sleading figure rather than the net addition to profits, which is
the true net earnings of the bank. Comparative figures reveal that the net
addition to profits of the bank is not particularly impressive compared

with the net addition to profits of other banks. In the fiscal years 1936
and 1937 the net addition to profits of Bank of America was less, in rela-

tion to its assets, than the average for all national banks. On the other
hand, Bank of America paid out a greater proportion of its profits in dividends than the average of all national banks, or of all national banks in
the Twelfth Federal Reserve District.

The Chairman of the Board, in his letter to this office of September
15, 1938, states that the discussions had by himself and by the Vice President
and Cashier of the bank with the Chief National Bank Examiner at this office

concerning the bank's dividend policy and the position of this office in relation thereto, were in no respect formal and were incidental to discussions of
branch permits. The fact remains that in January and August of this year the
Chairman of the Board and the Vice President and Cashier of the Bank were defi-

nitely apprised of the criticisms of the bank's dividend policy by this office,
and-of its reasons for such criticism. It is the attitude of the management
in

ordinating major problems of the bank to its expansion program, with

office disagrees. Rather than subordinating these problems to
of the bank through additional-branches, the unsatisfactory

tal conditions of the bank should be the primary consideration
and the management and should be corrected before consideration

further expansion.

Directors are required to give to the bank that degree of super-

plated by law and their oaths of office, and to see that the

ht to their attention are corrected or adjusted. Unsatisfactory

conditions in banks are due generally to the failure directors to
direct. While directors are not required to devote their entire attention
to the details of the business menagement of the bank, and may commit routine

matters to their duly authorized officers, provided that they retain and
exercise a general supervision, they-do not discharge the duties imposed upon

them by law by reposing the entire administration of the business affairs of
the bank to the active management. The national banking laws place upon

directors the responsibility for the selection and retention of officers, for
defining their duties and for prescribing the manner in which the business of

the bank shall be conducted. In short, the responsibility for the proper
conduct of the affairs of the bank is placed by law upon the Board of Directors,
and that responsibility can not be passed by them to the officers of the bank,

to the bank examiners, or to the supervising authority. It is the duty of
the Board of Directors to determine the policy of the bank and of the manage-

ment to execute that policy. The Board is not performing that duty when it
permits the management to usurp its prerogatives nor when it gives blanket
authority to the management to conduct the affeirs of the bank.

The Board, in its letter, comments that the very nature of the
powers conferred upon the Comptroller of the Currency should imbue him with

the desire, should he contemplate their exercise, to subject himself to the

most deliberate restraint. It is the policy of the Comptroller of the Currency to subject himself to the most deliberate restraint in the exercise of
the powers vested in him by law, but for some time past it has been becoming more

apparent that such restreint on the part of the Comptroller of the Currency
has been misconstrued persistently by the management of the bank 86 condoning

its unsafe or unsound practices. It WAR only as a last resort, in order to
bring the situation to the attention of the Board of Directors and to make

the management realize its seriousness, that this office felt constrained to
adopt the measure of warning the Board of Directors under Section 30 of the
Banking Act of 1933, and to use the method chosen to give that warning.

Tice notes the assurances given by the Board of Directors
of

its cooparation in every effort to further the progress of the bank. If

the contentions advanced and the statements made in its letter of October 11
represent the fully considered and informed opinions of the directors whose

names are attached thereto, this office fears that the directors do not yet
fully appreatate the situation and that the cooperation which is necessary
from the Board in order to work out en effective solution of the problems

of the bank is still lacking. The statement in the Board's letter is also
noted that It will appreciate this office affording the management of the
bank an opportunity to clarify some of the issues raised and that the main
criticisms contained in the report of examination are fundamental questions
of policy with respect to which the Board feels that the management should

be accorded the privilege of direct contact and conference with this office.
The management of the bank has always been accorded the privilege of direct

contact and conference with this office and has evailed itself of this privilege on many occasions. This office will continue to give the management of
the bank, the Board of Directors or any committee thereof, or representatives
of both the Board and the management, an opportunity to confer with either

this office or the office of the Chief National Bank Examiner located in San

Francisco, at any time. It is felt, however, that because of the attitude of
the management in refusing to recognize the fundamental problems of the bank

and attempting to speciously refute the criticisms contained in the report of
examination, such conferences may be destined to be 85 futile as have been

past office conferences with the management, unless the Board, or their representatives, are prepared to present 8 constructive program looking toward

the correction of the problems of the bank.
Ever since the bank W88 converted into the national banking system
this Price has sought to cooperate with the directorate and management of
the

but has found cooperation impossible due to the arbitrary and an-

it attitude of the management towards well-founded criticism and to
twent of the management towards supervision. An examination of a

bank is made for the purpose of informing the supervisory authority of the
bank's condition, so that that authority may perform the duties imposed upon

him by law. Copies of the report of examination of a bank are sent to its

Board of Directors to disclose to the Board the bank's condition, and to indicate to the bank's management those problems of the bank that require the
management's special attention. The examination of a bank is not made for
the purpose of complimenting the bank's management, and if any criticism is
necessary to advise the Comptroller of the Currency and the Board of Direc-

tora as to the bank's condition, the examiner is required to make such criticism and to continue the same until it has been corrected. The primary function of a bank supervisory authority is the protection of the funds of depositors. A bank supervisory authority does not consider a bank from the view-

point of its being the principal earning asset of & stockholder, either corporate

or individual. It is just as important for the directors of a bank to be
thoroughly familiar with its affairs in order that they may discharge their

legal responsibilities as it is for the supervisory authority to be accurately
informed concerning the condition of the bank in order that he may perform
those obligations which the law imposed upon him. The problems of the bank
can be more quickly cured if the management of the bank would cooperate with

this office and its examiners to that end.
This office notes the Board's statement that it believes that the
ohief difficulty between the examiners and the bank is the examiner's low

opinion of real estate as security. The report of examination does not disclose any warrant whatsoever for the Board's conclusion that the examiners

have & low regard for real estate, as such, as security for obligations. No
crities has been made of the conforming real estate loans being carried

by the bank. Of a total of $304,000,000 of real estate loans in the bank,
approximately $250,000,000 are not classified by the examiner. The

critief is directed at the large volume of distressed loans from which
,000,000 of real estate has been acquired since 1927, which is

of proporation to the total outstanding real estate loans.

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the

real estate loans classified by the examiner, $14,004,000 represent distressed

Items, of which amount real estate loans-aggregating 87,177,543 are under actual

foreclosure, as shown by the foreclosure records of the bank, and the remainder represents probable foreclosures according to the field examiners. The foregoing
indicates that the bank has in no way reached the end of its real estate problem,

and that future acquisitions under foreclosure will continue the present frozen real
estate concentration.

The Board also takes exception to the use of the annual normal earnings

of the bank for the five year period from 1933 to 1937 as a basis for the criticism
of its dividend policy, and states that it does not appear reasonable for the examiner to use the years 1933, 1934 end 1935, the three lean years in the cycle of depression, in calculating the annual normal earnings of the bank. The examiner used
the same period in the examination of your bank that is used in the examination of
all national banks, as provided by the schedule on page 4 of the examination report
form. The Board further states that the losses charged off by the bank since 1932

have resulted from the greatest period of inflation and deflation that the world
has experienced. An analysis of the earnings of the bank from the date of its conversion into the national banking system in 1927 to the end of the year 1937, which

includes both an inflationary and a deflationary period, indicates that the examiner,
in using the five year average, has used figures more favorable to the bank, as the
annual average net operating profit for the period 1927 to 1937 is approximately
$1,500,000 less than the figures used by the examiner. The use of the average of
the past five years is considered more reasonable than the use of the average of the
years 1936 and 1937, the two most favorable years in the history of the bank, as
suggested in the Board's letter.

The Board, in its letter, states that it had instructed its Secretary to
comunicate with this office with a view to formulating a plan for keeping satisfactory minutes of the proceedings of the Board, which he has done. No set rule
or formula can be developed relative to a method of keeping the minutes of the

Board. The statute requires specific approval by the Board of Directors in certain
instances and all matters of policy, reports of committee, and matters of major
importance should be SPE Apricially approved by the Board of Directors. In addition

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bareto,

tors

are

stautes

should be in sufficient detail to indicate that the direc-

the

currently

and specifically advised on the affairs of the bank. The

countilite a permanent record of the proceedings of the Board and should

disclose the roval or disapproval by the Board of acts of its committees and
of the management. Other large national banks with a large volume of transactions
do not experience any physical limitations to recording the proceedings of the

Board of Directors and its committees in sufficient detail to provide adequate
record of the Board's determination of matters of policy and of its position on
matters of major importance to the bank.

The Board further states that it is keeping close watch on the
economic trend and earnings and that this office may rest assured that should
a change in the future economic trend adversely affect the earnings, their

dividand action will be regulated accordingly. Sound banking practice requires
that the earnings of the bank be conserved, not only to provide against possible

future adverse conditions, but first to eliminate from the assets of the bank
the results of part adverse conditions. This should be accomplished normally

during periods of prosperity by the elimination of such assets through the
proper application of earnings instead of dissipating such earnings by consistently increasing the dividend rate from the rate of 6% in 1933 to the rate of
19.25, which was the basis of the last dividend payment. The elimination of such
assets should not be accomplished by resorting to such unsound measures as re-

capturing losses by writing up previously charged off assets as collateral values
appreciate and by writing up securities and applying the proceeds of such write-

up to the forgiveness of the debts of solvent affiliates of Transamerica Cor-

poration. It is expected that the Board of Directors will hereafter establish
adividual policy consistent with sound banking principles and will conserve the

ngs until such time as the capital structure is adequate and the asset

of the bank is satisfactory.
deference is also made to the letter of the Chairman of the Board
of the bank addressed to the Acting Comptroller of the Currency

date of May 6, 1938. The Chairman of the Board, in his letter, claims
that the examiner has deliberately concocted problems to enable him to present a warped picture of the condition of the bank by an exaggeration of

problems and underestimation of progress; that because of certain gross
errors and lack of understending on, the part of the examiner, the management

of the bank is being subjected to undue criticism and malicious and slanderous
harassment; that the progressive improvement in the condition of the bank
since the Chairman's return to management in 1932 is minimized by undue criticism; that the management of the bank has overcome obstecles that were generally viewed as insurmountable; that economic conditions since 1932 have not

favored improvement in the condition of the bank; and that the problems of
the bank can be more quickly cured if the bank receives a slight degree of
cooperation from some of the government agencies and representatives concerned,

instead of being subjected to the critical and highly technical tactics presently employed, which condition tends to absorb too great B proportion of the
time and effort of the bank's management IP This office does not concur in the
opinion of the Chairman of the Board that there have been misrepresentations

of the condition of the bank in the reports of examination, or that there has
been any exaggeration therein of the problems of the bank, or any underestima-

tion of its progress in solving them. Nor does the office agree that the management of the bank has been subjected to malicious and slanderous harassment

and has overcome obstacles that were generally viewed as insurmountable. If
the obstacles had been generally viewed as insurmountable the bank would not

have been licensed to reopen after the banking holiday in 1933. Nor does this
office agree that economic conditions since 1932 have not favored improvement

in the condition of the bank. If such had been the case, national banks throughout the country would not have shown the general improvement in their condition,

due in a large part to prevailing economic conditions, that comparative fagures
disclose. The improvement in the condition of your bank does not exceed or
even compare favorably with the improvement in the condition of many other na-

tional banks, more specifically those of similar size. In the case of your
bank, the extent of the assistance offered by improved economic conditions can

readily be appreciated from the fact that the profits to the bank during the
period from the sale of securities alone has exceeded $40,000,000, or a sum

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equal to approximately 72% of the net operating profits of the bank during

that period, without taking into consideration the losses averted and recovered by the enhancement in the value of securities, as well as the inprovement and increased activity in the real estate market.

It is noted that the Board asserts that the average loss experienced on the average total of outstanding loans made since 1932, when the
present management took control, has been only 1/20 of 1% per annum, or 3/10

of 1% for a six year period which may be taken as a fair indication of the
extent of future losses which may be expected to result in a charge against
current earnings. The further statement is made that losses in the amounts
charged off since 1932 may properly be considered non-recurrent. This office

is unable to find any major criticism of the examiner directed at the general
character of the loans now being made. The criticism is specifically directed
at the large volume of criticised loans that have been in the bank for years
which neither the interim nor the present management has corrected or collected,

and from which source the major portion of the losses are developing. From
the date of conversion of the bank into the national banking system to June
30, 1938, the total of losses charged off was approximately $82,000,000, while
the net operating profit for the same period was approximately $88,000,000.

Losses shown in the report of examination as of April 28, 1938, which was not

delivered to the bank until subsequent to the filing of its report of earnings
and dividends as of June 30, 1938, shows additional losses of approximately

$8,000,000. It is apparent that the losses of the bank have exceeded its net
operating profit from 1927 to June 30, 1938. The position is taken that in
the future the bank's earnings will progressively increase but the bank's
losses will be non-recurrent.
A more conservative and reasonable position would be the opposite,

namely, that the large bond profits of the past few years will be non-recurrent
and that there will be a continuous necessity for charging off developing
losses.

in live letter

The Chairman of the Board further statesAthat he came back into the

Bank of America picture for the express purpose of bringing the institution

out of at BOTO predicament in which the former management had placed it.
Who constituted the so-called former management referred to by the Chairman
of the Board? What was the so-called sore predicament in which the bank had

been placed by it! This office has understood that the management of the bank
has, since its conversion in 1927, always been selected with the approval of

the present Chairman of the Board. It has understood, further, that, for practical purposes, the management of the bank since 1932 also was the management

of the bank prior to 1930, and is the same management that laid the foundation
for the present underlying weakness in the bank, in that such management ac-

quired most of the currently criticised assets through the original acquisition
of the banks from which these assets emanated. Apparently the Chairman of the

Board refers to the management of the bank's affairs in the years immediately

preceding his return to the Bank of America picture in 1932. During the year
1929 Mr. A. J. Mount became President of the bank and continued as such until

the early part of 1932. Prior to Mr. Mount's election to the Presidency of the
bank he had been its Senior Executive Vice President and was reputed to have

been the personal selection of the Chairman of the Board for the office of President. The records further reveal that, since the bank WALB converted into the
national banking system in 1927, the present Chairman of the Board and the pres-

ant President of the bank, together with Directors W. E. Blauer, Dr. C. E. Caglieri, Paul B. Fay, George J. Giannini, A. J. Gock, Marshal Hale, C. N. Hawkins

and A. E. Sbarboro, have been continuously or intermittently directors of the
bank. In addition, Directors C. H. Baker, Leon Bocqueraz, A. deBretteville,
Fred L. Dreher, F. W. Flint, Jr., Dr. A. H. Giannini, John E. Marble, and J. M.
Schenck have been directors of the bank continuously since Bank of America of

California consolidated with Bank of Italy National Trust and Savings Association in 1930. Many present executive officers of the bank have continuously
served the bank in executive capacity since 1927. There is no indication that
the interi management had any detrimental effect upon the past or present condition of the bank. During the years 1930 and 1931 the "Inter-America Corporation
contracts* were negotiated, through which losses and unsatisfactory assets in

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aggregate amount of $35,213,902 were taken out of the bank and the bank's

position further improved through charge off of losses aggregating $13,315,700

against the undivided profit account. An analysis of the reports of the bank
from the date of its conversion into the national banking system in 1927, through
the year 1937, discloses that the present problems of the bank are more attributable

to the policies of its present management than to the policies of its interim
management. Is it possible that the Chairman of the Board has confused the interim
sangement of the bank with the interim management of Transamerica Corporation?

Both the Chairman and the Board, in their respective letters, claim that
approximately $35,000,000 of the losses charged off since 1932 originated in the
Merchants National Trust and Savings Bank of Los Angeles, the elimination of which
is claimed to be one of the major accomplishments of the present management. Were

the losses resulting from the acquisition of Merchants National Trust and Savings
Bank charged off since the Chairman returned to the bank's management in 1932, or

were they eliminated by sale to Transamerica Corporation in 1931 through the medfun of the "Inter-America Corporation contracts" by the interim management, now
charged with having placed the bank in a sore predicament? Our records reveal that
the Merchants National Trust and Savings Bank of Los Angeles was originally acquired in 1928 by Transamerics Corporation interests following an examination made
by its own representatives, at which time the present Chairman of the Board and
the present President of the bank were President and Executive Vice President, res-

pectively, of Transamerica Corporation. If it was through this transaction that
an asset loss of $35,000,000 was suffered, then by what line of reasoning can this
loss be charged to the interim management of the bank during the years 1930 and 1931?
Transamerion Corporation acquired these losses in 1928, liquidated them at face

alamy in 1928 to the Bank of America of California, which latter became
part of the present bank through consolidation. Transamerica Corporation subsequently reparchased these losses from the bank under the Inter-America Corporation
contracts. Then by what line of reasoning CAN it be contended that Transamerica

was in no way responsible for the original acquisition of this
loss; that the "Inter-America Corporation contracts, regardless of
Cloar wording to the contrary, were merely guarantees; that Transamerica

only pledged its credit to the bank: nd that the bank is, therefore,
dation

fultified in the Corgiveneas of the Indebtodness of a selvent corpora-

the expense of further weakening its asset ragition nd its capital
structure? If the unjor portion of he londes charged off since the Chairunn reunder to the Bank of America picture in 1932 arose out of the Merchants National
cart n Savings Bank transaction in 1928, as claimed, then what managlement of
also bank is responsible for the Loure's charged off in 1930 and 1931, nd or the
161808 provided for through the "Inter-Am-rics Corporation contracts", aggregating
in excess of $48,500,000?

The Chairman of the Board, in his letter, states that he is hopeful
that fair-sinded and unbinsed authorities in Washington will shortly see to

it that proper consideration is given to the affairs of the bank and proper
entment afforded the institution; that it is not he Chairman's disposition
to relax his efforts in the face of unwarranted harnssment; and further, that

be can not and will not relax his efforts in behalf of the Institution while
10 unfriendly attitude exists in Washington. The attitude of the office of
the Comptroller of the Currency tomari the Bank of America is and always has been

fair and Impartial. This office docs not consider that the setting forth of
boo" fide criticisms in reports of examination or that positions taken by this
office in its supervisory capacity give any basis for the statement that the
bank nd the management have been subj. cted to unwarranted harassment.

This office notes the reference in the Board's letter, to certain
correspondence, designated Exhibit 5, concerning Mensrs. Bell, Nolan and

Hellman. Reports of Mr. P. C. Reed, Assistant Auditor of Bank of America,

concerning alleged irregularities end violations of the criminal provisions
of the National Banking Act on the part of Monars. Bell, Nolan, Hellman And

others, were transmitted by he bank to the Chief National Bank Examiner in

an Francisco, and by him, in turn, transmitted to this office. The reports
of your auditor were promptly trancmitted by this office to the Attorney
General of the United States, who is charged by law with the determination
AS to the prosecution of matters of this kind, for such action as he may have

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deezed to be appropriate. Although the reports showed circumstances which

night tend to indicate that certain of the officers of Bank of America had
engaged in irregular transactions involving the borrowing of money, neverthe-

less, the reports did not give clear or concise proof of any such irregular-

ities. Most of the alleged irregularities and violations arose out of transactions as to which the Statute of Limitations had run at the time the reports
were turned over to the examiner, or which occurred with some of the State
banks which subsequently merged or consolidated with Bank of America. The
Chairman of the Board, who wrote the letters of November 21, 1932 and November

26, 1932 and June 10, 1933 included in Exhibit #5, was advised on June 30, 1933

by the Chief National Bank Examiner in San Francisco of the reference of the

matters by this office to the Attorney General and, on July 7, 1933 the ChairBAD of the Board communicated directly with the Attorney General about the
matter.

The Board, in its letter, states that it is a general rule of the
bank to subject commercial and savings accounts, whether doruant or active,
to service charges, and that such charges are supported by an agreement which

the depositor signs. It is the long established position of this office that
the only justification for making a service charge upon an account is to
cover the expense of caring for that account and such charge should not

exceed a fair relationship to the actual cost of the service rendered. A
dormant account does not entail any material expense and there is no objection

to transferring it to an inactive ledger. A dormant account is the property of
the depositor no matter how long it remains in the bank, and must be carried by

the bank as a deposit as long as it exists, unless the depositor consents to
the imposition of a service charge. The forms attached to the opinion of Mr.
Ferrerly with reference to the legality of service charges made by the bank, indicate a consent on the part of the depositor to the imposition of a service charge
upon ML notive account, but the bank would probably have serious difficulty
in

abouting, from the language of such forms, a consent by the depositor to

the imposition of a service charge upon his dormant account. Deposits made

under deposit agreements which did not specifically give to the bank the

to
itsreflecting
of ofthethe
in the

right to make service charges, cannot now be subject to such charges. unless

and until such deposit agreements are so modified. For the bank to make an
inproper service charge against a dormant account and credit the proceeds.
thereof itor and profits bank's resulter statement in incorrectly the confiscation property liabilities unpos- of

the institution, with B consequent possible criminal liability upon the bank
officials for making 8 false report. Any service charges heretofore made
contrary to the foregoing must be promptly restored to the accounts of the

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depositors.

Reference is made to the information, submitted in comparative
form, showing changes in certain conditions of the bank between March 31,

1932 and April 28, 1938, and which the Board of Directors claims is indica-

tive of the progress made by the bank under the present management. The

figures submitted in the Board's letter in connection with non-conforming
real estate loans are at variance with the figures contained in the reports

I

of examination. The non-conforming real estate loans BE of March 31, 1932

amounted to $89,009,000 and not to $97,423,000 as stated in the Board's letter;
and as of April 28, 1938 amounted to $58,093,000, of which 818,613,000 were

illegally acquired, and not to $57,718,000 as stated in the Board's letter.

Consequently, the decrease between the said dates amounted to $30,916,000

and not to $39,705,000. What portion of the illegal and non-conforming real
estate loans of the bank as of March 31, 1932 and as of April 28, 1938 were

)

acquired by purchase from other banks? What portion of the progress claimed

is represented by the acquisition of "Other Real Estate" through foreclosure
of illegal and non-conforming real estate loans, the major portion of which
real estate is now represented by the indebtedness of California Lands, Inc.
and Capital Company to the bank? Certificates authorizing the establishment
of branches of your bank are granted by this office with the understanding
that all assets acquired by purchase from other banks, which are illegal or
inadmissible, will be eliminated. Consequently, all inadmissible assets, including illegal real estate loans and illegally acquired stock and bonds so

acquired and now held by your bank, should immediately be eliminated from its

assets for cash.

It is noted that the Board gives credit to the management for a
decrease of $15,718,000 in the aggregate of loans dependent upon Transamerica
Corporation stock. This sum included $4,305,862 of loans now secured by and
dependent upon Bank of America stock which was substituted 88 collateral when
the number of outstanding shares of stock of Transamerica Corporation was re-

duced and shares of stock of Bank of America distributed in the form of an
asset dividend by Transamerica Corporation. What portion of this decrease

was occasioned by the various changes made in the method of calculating the
dependency of loans upon the security of Transamerica Corporation stock?

what portion of this decrease is represented by the charge off of loans secured by stock of Transamerica Corporation? What portion of this decrease
is represented by actual cash collection?

By reason of the fact that this office does not have available to
it information as to what items make up the classified loans to affiliates
as of November 9, 1932, or loans to affiliates classified adversely, as of
the same date, it can not be determined to what extent the decrease claimed
for the present management by the Board represents an actual correction. To
what extent are the corrections claimed represented by cash reductions and to
what extent are they represented by assets still in the bank, but in different
form?
With reference to unlawfully acquired bonds and securities, the attention of the Board is directed to the fact that the bond account of the
bank includes twenty-three separate unlawfully acquired issues having a book

value of $1,384,358. In addition, the bank illegally purchased from Transamerica General Corporation on March 14, 1935, 1,800 shares of stock of National City Bank of New York, having a book value of $79,600 and a market

value at the time of the last examination of $41,850. This stock acquisition
has been set up since its acquisition in reports of examination as
and the management has been repeatedly requested to remove these shares illegal of

stock from the assets of the bank. The Board's attention is also directed to

the illegal purchase from Transamerica Corporation on July 14, 1937 of 56,600

shares of stock of National City Bank of New York for consideration of
$2,716,800. The last report of examination revealed e lose of 973,000 therein.
All illegally acquired stocke and bonds should be removed from the assets of

the bank for cash. The bond account of the bank further shows the acquisition
of sixty issues of bonds having a rating of B2 or less, cerried on the books
at $6,188,021 and thirty issues of convertible bonds carried on the books at
$4,419,541. The legality of the acquisition of these issues is questioned,
and they should be disposed of. Detailed information in connection with the
foregoing may be found in the Administration Department report on Page 6, inserts A, B, C, and 1 - 52, inclusive.
do

There are three mejor problems in your bank. The first two have to
with the asset condition of the bank and the policy of the management in

relation thereto. The third has to do with the failure to allocate sufficient
of the bank's earnings to provide for criticised assets and an adequate capitelexcessive
structure,
as well as the dissipation of such earnings through the payment
of
dividenos.

The Board, in its letter, states that it does not believe that the
items designated in the report of examination as Guaranteed Loans $5,524,096;
Option to Purchase $2,716,800; California Lands, Inc. $12,051,526; and Capital Company $27,687,820, totaling $47,980,242 represented extensions of credit

by the bank, and that, therefore, these items should not be included in the
report 88 part of the concentration in the bank's assets of direct and indirect
obligations of Transamerica Corporation. This office does not concur in that
position. The circumstances surrounding these transactions and the liability
of the parties thereto do not support the Board's position. In the opinion
of this office, these items constitute extensions of credit and are properly
80 shown in the report of examination. The elimination of this concentration
along constructive lines of actual asset improvement and cash reduction is
necessary in the interest of sound banking, instead of the mere change of obligor or form of obligation or the reacquisition by the bank of unsatisfactory
or illegal assets.

In 1931 the bank was faced with the necessity of eliminating certain
assets classified as "Loss" and "Doubtful" and otherwise unsatisfactory, in
order to rehabilitate its capital structure, or the shareholders were faced
with the necessity of making contributions to the bank for the same purpose.
Substantially all of the stock of Bank of America National Trust and Savings
Association was then owned by Transemerica Corporation, which was, therefore,

the shareholder to which the bank had to look for assistance. To relieve the

bank of such assets, a wholly owned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation purchased from the bank, under three seperate contracts, dated June 26, 1931, December 31, 1931 and now knownofas
the "Inter-America Corporanotes,
tion contracts", certain February notes, 13, portions 1932, obligations, other claims, written-down demands,
causes
of action, equities, future appreciation in bond and
accounts, and recoveries on losses and other assets, together with certain mortgages, deeds of trust, collateral on other security securing the same, and all
the right, title and interest of the bank therein and thereto, for a considers- with
tion of $35,213,902. The payment of this purchase price in accordance
the terms of these contracts was secured by the assets sold by the bank and by
the pledge of certain listed and unlisted securities.

- 17 (a) tion to the above transactions, Bank of America National
Trust

Association entered into an agreement on February 1, 1933
ned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation, whereby the bank

and

with A

sidiary all of the bank's charged off assets including those
If in the future up to July 1, 1933, for B consideration of

sold to
to be
$250,000.
On January
owned

the Board of Directors approve this sale for such consideration?
1934 the bank entered into an additional agreement with B wholly
N

of Transamerico Corporation whereby the bank sold to that

subsidiary 11 of the bank's charged off assets from July 1, 1933 to July 1,
1937 for a consideration of $50,000. Did the Board of Directors approve the
sale of this group of charged off assets for such consideration, which included those to be charged off in the future between the dates of January 2, 1934
and July 1, 1937?

contracts for the sale o charged OTH assets, dated February 1, 1900 and

two

January 2, 1934 are hereinafter designated as the "three hunared thousand dollar
contracts."

The Board's attention is directed to the manner in .hich contracts
Inted June-26, 1931, December 31, 1231 na February 13, 1932, known as the

*Inter-America Corporation contracts", have been eliminated, as fully set forth
in detail under the "Large Line*schedule in the Consolidated Report. The sum of
$14,500,000 was credited upon the "Inter-America Corporation contracts"

through charge off and bond write-up. The sum of 32,716,800 was credited

upon the "Inter-America Corporation contracts" in consideration of the transfer to the bank by Transamerica Corporation, then obligated under those contracts,
of 56,600 shares of stock of National City Bank of New York. The sum of
$1,486,185 was credited upon the "Inter-America Corporation contracts", which
0

sum was realized by California Lands, Inc. and Capital Company out of the liguidation of the charged off assets described in the "three hundred thousand dollar
contracts." The bank subsecuently repurchased from California Lands, Inc. and
Capital Company the residue of such charged off assets for an additional sum of
$6,500,000 under a guarantee by Transamerica Corporation as to the liquidating

value of such assets. Of the sun of £6,500,000 paid by the bank to California
Lands, Inc. and Capital Company to repurchase from those companies its previous-

ly charged off assets, the swn of $5,314,287 was made available to Transamerica
Corporation through a series of inter-compeny book entries, and was credited
upon the "Inter-America" Corporation contracts." Why was the payment of

$1,486,185 by Capital Company and California Lands, Inc., realized out of the
liquidation of charged off assets purchased under the "three hundred thousand

dollar contracts" applied as a credit on the "Inter-America Corporation contracts
when those companies were not obligated thereon? Was it sound banking for the
bank to have sold these charged off assets for $300,000 when the subsequent

owner of such assets, a wholly owned subsidiary of Transamerica Corporation,

realized A minimum of $8,000,000 out of the liquidation thereof and will further
participate, until 1947, on 3 parity with the bank in future recoveries on such
on

charged off assets in excess of $6,500,000? The credits of $14,500,000

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the "Inter-America Corporation contracts" through charge off of $500,000 and
bond write-up of $14,000,000 were unwarranted voluntary partial reductions by
the bank's management on the purchase price agreed to be paid by a reputedly

solvent corporation for assets sold by it to that corporation, under the terms
of contracts additionally secured by the pledge of collateral. What legal
authority had the bank to purchase the 56,600 shares of stock of National City
Bank of New York? Why are not the formerly charged off assets repurchased

from Capital Company and California Lands, Inc. carried as individual assets on
the bank's books. Do all the assets so repurchased conform with legal requirements? Why should Transamerica Corporation participate until 1947 on a parity
with the bank in all recoveries above $6,500,000 on assets repurchased by the
bank? At the time the bank paid $6,500,000 to Capital Company and California

Lands, Inc. to repurchase the residue of its previously charged off assets and

at the time that it illegally purchased 56,600 shares of stock of National City
Bank of New York for $2,716,800, the entire indebtedness of Transamerica Corporation under the "Inter-America Corporation contracts" was adequately secured by

listed collateral and was not classified by the examiner in his report of examination. Did the Board of Directors approve the release to Transamerica Corpora-

tion of the Listed collateral held to secure the balance due the bank under the
"Inter- sarica Corporation contracts"?

Board, in its letter, claims that through the "Guaranteed Loans"
"Optice to Purchase" it has materially strengthened the bank's position
providt
definite program of liquidation, whereas, it is claimed, such
program die not exist under the "Inter-America Corporation contracts." The
Inter
Corporation contracts" socak for themselves ng reveal that in
each
was a definite maturity of one year from the original date of
each
Subsequent extensions of maturities by he bank ere made annually
31, 1935. During December, 1935, the maturity of the contracts
and
by

was

the

could
whereas
the

N

The as
Inc.

elimin

tended to December 31, 1928. Had performance in accordance with
any of these repeatedly extended contracts been demanded, they
been removed from the bank by not later than December 31, 1938,

the terms of the "Guaranteed Loans" nd the "Option to Purchase",
limination of the substituted assets is extended to July 14, 1942.
repurchased by the bank from Capital Company nd California Lands,
500,000 under the guaranty by Transamerica Corporation should be
from the bank immediately for cash.

The original contracts under which the bank disposed of its "Other
Real Estate" were contracts made with National Bankitaly Company, and pro-

vided for the down payment of 25% of the book value of the real estate sold,
with 6% interest on unpa Id balances due under he contract, payment

together

in full for the real estate sold within a period of five years, incluling the
payment of taxes. The National Bankitaly Company was wholly owned by the

shareholders of the bank. Subsequently, these contracts were cancelled
and new contracts entered into between the bank and Capital Company and

California Lands, Inc., under the terms of which 10% of the value of the
property was paid to the bank on account of the purchase price, and 10%

was due each year thereafter. Under these contracts the rate of interest
on the unpaid balance was reduced from 6 to 1% and the payment of taxes on
the real estate was assumed by the bank. Under these contracts Capital Com-

pany and California Lands, Inc. were obligated to purchase real estate ac-

quired by the bank under foreclosure, at the cost thereof to the bank regardless of its actual value. These Capital Company and California Lands, Inc.
contracts were subsequently cancelled and new contracts, now in effect, entered
into between the same parties, whereby no down payment was required and 10%

per annum was to be paid each year after the second year after acquisition.

The bank retains title to the real estate until it is sold by California Lands,
Inc. and Capital Company. The bank agrees to accept at face value cash,

notes, or sales contracts received by these corporations in payment for the

real estate sold by them. The cost of the rehabilitation or improvement of
the properties covered by the contracts by these corporations is added to the
unpaid balance due from them under the contracts. All real estate covered

by these contracts is carried by the bank on its books as "Real Estate Sales
Contracts" and shown as "Loans and Discounts" in published reports of condition.
Amount of real estate covered by those contracts has increased from 29%

of the bank's book capital structure of $97,419,540 as of June 22, 1934, the

date of the first examination of the bank subsequent to the contracts of April,
1934 between Bank of America and Capital Company and California Lands, Inc.,

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to

35% of the bank's book capital structure of $112,420,311 as of April 28,

1938.

to

In 1935 the basis of determining the sale price of such properties

the companies was changed so as to eliminate accrued interest and fore-

closure cost, and the properties were sold by the bank at appraised value
or

bid-in-price. The amount received by the bank in the CASE of sale by

the companies of the real estate covered by these contracts is credited to

the total amount due to the tenk under the contracts, with the result that
some properties can be carried indefinitely by the companies and the liability
of the compenies to the bank for the sale price of such properties could be

carried indefinitely in loans and discounts.
The national banking law provides that no national bank shall hold
possession of any real estate, except such as shall be necessary for its ac-

commodation in the transaction of its business, for 8 longer period than five
years. The terms and conditions of the original contract for the sale of the
bank's "Other Real Estate" to National Bankitaly Company were consonant with

the policy of the law. Were the terms and conditions in the subsequent con-

tracts revised so that the bank could hold its real estate for longer periods
than the law permitted in its loans end discounts, or for the purpose of
enabling the bank to hold its real estate without showing it in its published
statements as "Other Real Estate?"

California Lands, Inc., a corporation wholly owned by Transamerica
General Corporation, was indebted, directly and indirectly, to Bank of America

to the extent of $12,402,542. California Lands, Inc. cwns, operates, leases,
and sells farm properties for its own account and properties acquired under
foreclosure for the account of Bank of America and subsidiaries of Transamerica
Corporation. The contracts now in force between California Lands, Inc. and
Bank of America were executed on April 4, 1934. Since that date, California

Lands, Inc. has acquired auditional real estate under these contracts to the
extent of $8,322,207, nd has reduced its indebtedness to the bank under the

contracts to the extent of 27,435,325 through resale of real'estate
or that
backing the
amount. As of April 30, 1938, Pankasarica Companyawas indebted to California

Sands, Inc. to the extent of $2,823,000, secured by 61,281 chares of Bank of
America stock; California Lands, Inc. had an investment of $660,000 in 15,000
shares of Bank of America stock; and there E&F due to California Lands, Inc.

v

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from

Transmit Ica General Corporation £2,553,899. Why should the funds of

California ida, Inc. which it could rell utilize to reduce its liability to
Bank of America amounting to $12,402,542 be tied up in a large loan to a
corporation dx the Transamerica Corporation group, secured by the stock of

the bank, M well as in a large investment in the stock of the bank, when
its losses on real estate acquired from the bank under contract are made good
to California Lands, Inc. by another corporation in the Transamerica Corporation group? An examination of the minutes of the proceedings of the Board

of Directors during the last examination failed to disclose an approval by
the Board of Directors of the sale of "Other Real Estate of the bank to
California Lands, Inc. under these contracts. Did the Board of Directors
approve such sales under such contracts?

Capital Company, a corporation wholly owned by Transamerica GenWAS

oral Corporation, is indebted, directly and indirectly, to Bank of America
to the extent of $29,130,861. Capital Company owns, operates, leases and
sells urben properties for its own account and properties acquired under
foreclosure for the account of Bank of America and subsidiaries of Transamerica Corporation. The contracts now in force between Capital Company and
Bank of America were executed on April 4, 1934 and subsequent dates. Since

April 4 1934 Capital Company has acquired additional real estate under these
contracts to the extent of $35,254,157 and has reduced its indebtedness to
Bank of America in the amount of $23,158,410 through resale of that amount.
April 30, 1938 Capital Company had an investment of $5,000,000 in 10,000

Class "B" non-voting stock of Western States Corporation of the par
$2,500,000; and there was due to Capital Company from Transamerica

Corporation the net amount of $7,102,522. Why should the funds of

Company, which it could well utilize to reduce its liatility to Bank
ca amounting to $29,130,861 be tied up in a large investment in the
ing stock of Western States Corporation, which purchased Bankamerica

e-formed occupition dealing affiliate of-Bank of America, and First
1 Corporation of Portland, which holds a substantial interest in the
of First National Bank of Portland, when the Company's losses on real
estate Required from the bank are made good to it by another corporation in
the Transamerica Corporation group? An examination of the minutes of the

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proceedings of the Board of Directors during the last examinati n failed to
disclose an approval by the Board of Directors of the sale of "Other Real
Estate" of the bank to Capital Company under such contracts? Did the Board
of Directors approve such sales under such contracts?

The performance of California Lands, Inc. and Capital Company under

contracts, which represent a major portion of the total Transamerich
Corporation concentration, demonstrates that the indebtedness of there corporations to Bank of America under these contracts is dependent primarily

upon the liquidation of the underlying real estate rather than upon the CADEcity of the corporations to make payments under the contracts regardless of
such liquidation, as any payments under the contracts. other than home made

from the proceeds of the sale of the real estate included therein, would
have to be realized by the Companies from the linuidation of their own other
real estate.

The Board in its letter states that it does not believe the indebtednesses of California Lands, Inc. and Capital Company represent extensions of
credit by the bank to those companies, and, at the same time, cuotes with

approval the opinion of Mr. Ferrari, Vice President and General Counsel of the

bank, to the effect that the real estate in Tided under the contracts with
these companies has been sold by the bank under bone fide, valid and binding

contracts. If the bank has sold the real estate included in these contracts,
how can it be contended that the unpaid balance due under the contracts to

the bank is not an extension of credit to the purchasers by the bank? And,
if the bank does not own the real estate included in these contracts, how

could the bank offset taxes paid by it on real estate it did not own against
franchise taxes due from the bank to the State of California?

The extensions of credit to subsidiaries of Transmerica Corporation, namely, Inter-Continental Corporation £7,150,000; Transmerice Ser-

vice Corporation $7,600,000; nd First Nati nal Corporation of Fortland
£1,000,000, aggregate $15,750,000. These loans are supported by ssets of
various other non-borrowing, BE well as borrowing, subsidiaries of Trans-

america Corporation. This interchange of collateral and the series of intercompany accounts shown by balance sheets of various controlled subsidieries,

indicate that these loans are for the direct accordodation of Transaperice

Corporation and its enterprises. The major portion of the securities pledged
as collateral to this indebtedness is represented to be permanent investments
of the Transamerica Corporation corporate enterprise.

First National Corporation of Portland was indebted to Bank of
America National Trust and Savings Association to the extent of $1,000,000 at
time when First National Corporation of Portland showed among its assets
notes receivable from the First Securities Company in the amount of approximately $838,000, which funds First Securities Company used actively as the
medium for the purchase of independent banks in the State of Oregon in the
expension program of the First National Bank of Portland.
Why should Inter-Continental Corporation be indebted to Bank of
America and to other banks to the extent of approximately $14,000,000 at a

time when its balance sheet does not reflect sufficient assets to adequately
secure such indebtedness and it was forced to borrow collateral from other
subsidiaries of Transamerica Corporation, while at the same time there was
due to it from Transamerica General Corporation an amount in excess of
$10,000,000, and Transamerica General Corporation, in turn, showed as an
asset due from Transamerica Corporation, an amount in excess of $7,000,000?

The report of examination of the bank of April 28, 1938 discloses
an unwarranted concentration in the bank's assets of real estate aggregating
$97,660,265, which sum represents 87% of the bank's total book capital struc-

ture. This concentration includes the contracts of California Lands, Inc. and
Italso
real cotateconcentration

Capital Company in the amount of $39,739,346.

THE

includes real estate shown in the report of examination of April 28, 1938 as
a

"Banking House" in the amount of $27,613,727, of which properties having
MUST
book value of $1,578,005 are not used as banking premises, nd should, accord-

ingly, be transferred to and carried as part of "Other Real Estate Owned."

The directors, in their letter, state that the investment in banking
premises and in the Merchants National Realty Corporation is ithin the limitations of the provisions of Section 24a of the Federal Reserve Act, as
amended, and that during the year 1937 the sum of $1,404,000 was reserved for

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deprecia tion on banking premises and equipment, which rate was more than

sufficient to provide for the depreciation therein. The reports of examination of the bank do not reveal that any question of violation of the provisions of Section 24a of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, has ever been

raised. They do reveal, however, that the present carrying value of these
assets is $3,200,553 in excess of the depreciation allowed by the Internal
Revenue Bureau during the years 1931 to 1936, for which the bank has taken

credit in its income tax returns. In view of the heavy investment in these
fixed assets, sound banking practice requires that the bank not only charge

off the above amount but, in the future, take the full allowable rate of
depreciation as a charge-off on its books as well as for income tax purposes.

The history of the acquisition and the subsequent sale and reacquisition of
the properties referred to as "ex-banking premises" supports this requirement.
On October 1, 1931, Bank of America sold to Transamerica Corporation,

for a consideration of $9,155,786, certain real estate carried on the bank's
books as banking premises but which ere not being used for benking purposes.
The contract provided for a down payment, with the balance payable within

five years from the date of the contract, or on or before October 1, 1936.
Subsequently, Transamerica Corporation resold the properties acquired by it
under this contract to Capital Company. On July 14, 1937, more than nine
months after the date on which the balance due to Bank of America under the
October 1, 1931 contract was to have been paid to it, Bank of America contributed $5,875,000 in cash to the surplus of Merchants National Realty Corpora-

ticu and increased the book value of the bank's investment in the stock of
this corporation by the same amount. On he same date Merchants National
Realty Corporation purchased from Capital Company for the sur of $5,874,457,
the ex-banking premises" then held by Capital Company which had been purchaned by it from Transamerica Corporation, such sum being the balance remaining due to Bank of America under the original contract of October 1, 1931
between Bank of America and Transamerica Corporation. Capital Company then

paid to Transamerica Corporation the proceeds of this sale to eliminate

capital Co
Transamer
Bank

of

liability under its contract with Transemerica Corporation.
poration, in turn, used the same funds to make payment to

Americanto eliminate Transamerica Corporation's liability to Bank of

America unde the contract of October 1, 1931. The net result of these transactions is that Bazrik of America increased, in the sum of $5,875,000, its investment in the stock of Merchants National Realty Corporation carried in the
bond account and eliminated the direct obligation of Transemerica Corporation

to the bank. The above procedure was a reacquisition by the bank of "other
real estate" which it had formerly sold under contract to Transamerica Corporation and exemplifies one of the methods employed by the bank's management

in attempting to effect technical correction of criticised assets and to
eliminate the direct liabilities of Transamerica Corporation to the bank
through intercorporate transactions. Under what legal authority did Bank of
America contribute to the surplus of Merchents National Realty Corporation to
enable it to purchase real estate not necessary for the accommodation of the

bank in the transaction of its business? The report of examination of April
28, 1938 shows "Investment in and Advances to Companies or Nominees Holding

Title to Banking House" in the sum of $19,332,734. This sum represents an investment of the bank's funds in the stock of Merchants National Realty Corporation and includes the sum of $6,039,920 which represents all real estate owned

by the corporation and not used 88 banking premises. To the extent that such
real estate has been illegally acquired, that portion must be removed for cash
and the remainder thereof, if any, must be transferred to and carried on the
books of the bank as "Other Real Estate Owned".

The Board, in its letter, states that it is not its policy to write
up

Lies. On March 21, 1935 the management wrote up securities to the

5,000,000. This write-up was criticised in the subsequent report
ion. On December 24, 1935 the bank's management wrote up munici-

the extent of $3,000,000. This write-up was criticised in the
report of examination. On October 13, 1936 the bank's management

to up United States and municipal securities to the extent of
This write-up WB.S criticised in the subsequent report of

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1

examination The Board, in its

letter, claims that if the bank had sold the

bonds written up, realized the profit nd paid it out in dividends, and then
received such profits back from Transamerica Corporation as payment on ac-

count of that Corporation's obligation to the bank, taxes amounting to
$2,900,000 would have resulted from the procedure; whereas, by crediting

Transamerica Corporation's obligation to the bank by the amount of the writeup such taxes were avoided. In view of the asset condition and inadequate
sound capital of the bank, sound banking practice would have required that

had the bank sold the bonds written up and realized the profit, the profit
should not have been paid out in dividends to Transamerica Corporation but

should have been retained by the bank, thus materially assisting in the correction of the present undercapitalized condition of the bank. The avoidance

of a tax liability is not A justification for the use of an unrealized profit
resulting from a write-up of the carrying values of securities to effect the
forgiveness of a part of a well-secured debt to the bank.

It is not urged in the Board's letter that there was any necessity
for the forgiveness of the debt of Transamerica Corporation to the extent
of the $14,000,000 bond write-up. This indebtedness of Transamerica Corpora-

tion to the bank apparently could have been collected by the bank at maturity
by resort, if necessary, to the collateral pledged to secure the indebtedness.
An examination of the proceedings of the Board of Directors made during the

last examination did not disclose that the Board of Directors had approved
either the bond write-up or the application of the proceeds thereof as a
credit on the indebtedness of Transamerica Corporation. Did the Board of
Directors approve the bond write-up or approve the application of the proceeds
write-up as a credit upon the Transamerica Corporation indebtedness?

st several reports of examination have reflected market losses on this
of written-up bonds. Instead of charging off the losses dstimated
the Vice President and Cashier of the bank has devoted much time

ricing the bonds as of favorable dates subsequent to the dates of

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examination and then maintained that market appreciation had eliminated
the estimated losses, yet subsequent examinations disclosed the continued

presence of such estimated losses. It is contain!

it Cortuni-

cation relative to the bank's bond account that market appreciati n on
several unlisted securities carried in the bond account has eliminated the
losses estimated thereon in the report of examination as of April 28, 1938.
As instructed in office letter to the Board under date of September 23, 1938,
the loss shown in connection with this write-up and other losses on securimust

ties should be charged off and, in addition thereto, the remaining unliquidated

portion of the original write-up should bc reversed in its entirety, in
accordance with the requirements of the examination procedure adopted by

Federal and State supervisory authorities.

In further connection with the bond write-up, your attention is
called to the fact that during the past ten years there have been three OC-

casions on which the difference in the value of the securities account of the
bank between the height of appreciation nd the low point of depreciation in
the same cycle amounted to betreen 12,500,000 to 18,800,000 with an extreme

between the highest point of appreciation and the lowest point of depreciation
within such ten years of more than 31,500,000. If the management stands

ready to take advantage of H rising securities market to capitalize an unrealised profit represented by appreciation, then it must stand ready to make
adequate provision for depreciation in the market value of its investment
securities 80 written up.
Reference is made to the Board's comment in connecti in with the
impounded German credits, and the statement is noted that there apparently
has been a misunderstanding with regard to the vorbal agreement entered into

with the examiner. It is the Board's position that the agreement norie with
the daminer in 1936 contemplated the charge-off o: 1.000.300 annually

untit the carrying value should be resueed ML, O. Reounted reference
for the reports of examinati n. -hich, up To the receipt x he FORMS'

of October 11, 1938. had never been questioned, disclosed very cl rly his
the agreement with the examiner contemplated the charge-off of 21,000,000

upon

eac

reduced

tion of the bank until the carrying value should be
ently to absorb the exchange loss in such credits, regardbe. The classifications by the examiner of

less of what slut loss may
these

credits 16 considerably more lenient than the charge-offs voluntarily

taken by other large national banks holding these credits.
The report of examination of October 21, 1927 shows $1.00 of net
sound capital ($54,273,088) for each $10.76 of deposits ($583,946,000),

while the report of examinati. n of April 28, 1938 shows 1.00 of net sound
capital ($96,447,599) to each $14.36 of deposits ($1,335,494,290). During
this period of time the net sound capital of the bank was increased approximately $42,000,000. None of this increase of net sound capital can be

attributed to the application by the Board of Directors of the earnings

of the bank to its capital structure, for during the period in question, that
1

capital was increased in 1928 to the extent of $40,000,000 by the sale of
common stock of a par value of $12,500,000 at a premium of $27,500,000, and

to the extent of $6,565,800 by voluntary contributions. The assets classified
in the October 21, 1927 report ($33,709,000) represent 5% of the total assets
of the bank amounting to approximitely $670,000,000, while the assets classi-

fied in the April 28, 1938 report ($137,818,000) represent 9% of the total
assets of the bank amounting to approximately $1,512,000,000. The assets

classified in the October 21, 1927 report represented 57.7% of the bank's
book capital of approximately $58,373,000, while the assets classified in the
April 28, 1938 report represented 122% of the bank's book capital of approximabely $112,420,000.

The law imposes upon the Board of Directors of a national bank

the reponsibility for the determination of the disposition of the earnings
of the bank. Sound banking practice requires that the losses of a bank be
charged off and that its earnings be conserved to provide and maintain an
administe sound capital structure. An adequate capital is not supplied merely
Liance with legal minimum requirements. A bank with the highest grade
of annets should have a minimum of $1.00 of capital for every $10.00 of de-

irrespective of the type of such deposits. The determination, of

course,

of what constitutes an adequate capital in any given case necessithe

tates a consideration of the nature of the assets of the bank as well as

nature of its liabilities. The opinion of Mr. Ferrari, Vice President and
General Counsel of the bank, on the capital requirements of national banks,

which was attached to the Board's letter of October 11, is noted. No ques-

tion has been raised by this office that the capital of the bank did not meet

legal requirements. Thin office criticised the dissipation of earnings of
the bank and the failure to provide and maintain an adequate sound capital.

Mr. Ferrari's opinion in no wise affects the position taken by this office
AS to the adequacy of the net sound capital of the bank. Mr. Ferrari must

be well aware that, by the test set forth by him in his opinion, a national
bank organized in any one of our largest cities with a capital of $200,000
could accept deposits of hundreds of millions of dollars without any increase

in its capital. Mr. Ferrari must know that, by the test, your own institution
could, if it confined its branches to San Francisco, satisfy the legal requirements for capital by providing merely $200,000. Does Mr. Ferrari or the
Board of Directors seriously contend that Congress, when it provided for a
ed

minimum capital, intend/that the Comptroller of the Currency should be power-

less, in supervising banks for the protection of depositors, to insist upon

increases of capital as deposit liability incresses? If Mr. Ferrari is
familiar with the discuss! na of this matter in the bankins committees of
Congress, to which he refers, he knows that they have no such idea. The posi-

tion taken by this office is not 9 technical one. It is noted that the point
is made that more than half of the deposits of your bank are not payable on
demand, and, accordingly, A large proportion of the loans of your bank are,

pursuant to law, secured by real estate. There is no provision o: the law
requiring that here deposits are not payable on domand, loans must be secured

by real estate. Time an.i savings deposits, in periods o: stress, become
demand deposits through necessity.

It is noted that the Board takes the position that assets classified
as "slow" in the report of examination include assets that are unquestionably
sound, If such assets were deemed to be un mestionable sound they would

not

pears

have been classified as "slow". A slow asset is one in which there apto be a substantial and unreasonable degree of risk involved by reason

of an unfavorable record or other unsatisfectory characteristics, and in
which there is a possibility of future loss unless given the careful and
continued attention of the management. It beers 8 direct relationship to
the capital structure of the bank because of the probability of eventual
loss therein, and to the extent to which this may be true, the bank's capital structure will be reduced. This has been repeatedly demonstrated in the
past in your bank by the large number of instances wherein the examiner class-

ified A distressed real estate loan as "slow" on the basis of the then most
recent appraisal furnished by the bank. However, on the basis of the appraisal
furnished at the time the loan TBS placed in foreclosure, 8 substantial loss

was revealed. This loss is later defined by the price at which the real es)

tate thus acquired is disposed of by the bank. In all such instences the
resultant loss had theretofore been indicated only by a "slow" classification
but its elimination was accomplished by & charge against the capital structure
of the bank. We cannot, therefore, agree with the directors that slow assets
are unquestionably sound and that it is unreasonable that they should be taken

into consideration in determining the condition of the bank or in comparing

then with its total capital structure. The primary purpose of classifying
an asset as slow is to call the attention of the directors and the management
to some weakness therein, in order that immediate corrective measures can be

taken to avoid further deterioration in the value of the asset and to protect
the bank's interests. Most benkers are sware of their losses and doubtful
assets and consider the slow clessification as the most informative and valuable part of a report of examination.

The report of examination discloses the violation of Section 5200 of
the Revised Statutes, 85 amended, by the making of an excessive loan to Trens-

america Corporation and its subsidieries. It is not certein that, at the time
of the examination of the bank as of April 28, 1938, Transamerica Corporation

was not it affiliate of the bank. If Transamerica Corporation W&S then an af-

filiate of the bank or if Transamerica Corporation subsecuently becomes an
C

affiliate of the bank, the same extensions of credit that constituted the
violation of Section 5200, set forth in the report of examination, would be
part of the extensions of credit that would constitute U violation of Sec-

8

tion 23a of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended.

Section 5136 of the Revised Statutes, as amended, has been violated

by the purchase by the bank for its own account of shares of stock of corporations and by the purchase for its own account of investment securities in vio-

lation of the limitations and restrictions prescribed by the Comptroller of
the Currency by the Investment Securities Regulation.

Section 5137 of the Revised Statutes, 88 amended, has been violated
by the purchase, through Merchants National Realty Corporation, of real estate

not necessary for the accommodation of the bank in the transaction of its business and by holding real estate not necessary for such accommodation of the
bank for longer periods than five years.
Section 5201 of the Revised Statutes, as amended, has been violeted

by the making of loans on the security of the shares of the stock of the bank.
Section 24 of the Federal Reserve Act, as amended, has been violated
by the making and purchasing of real estate loans that do not conform with

the provisions of the said section.
Sound banking practice requires that no unwarrented extension of

credit be made, directly or indirectly, to Transemerica Corporation and/or

its directly or indirectly owned or controlled subsiciaries or affiliates; or
to any partnership, corporation or association and/or its directly or indirectly
owned or controlled subsidiaries or affiliates, in which Transamerica Corpora-

tion and/or its directly or indirectly owned or controlled subsidieries or
affiliates OWNE or own a substential part of the invested capital: or, for the
benefit of Transamerica Corporation and 'or its directly or indirectly owned or

controlled subsidiaries or affiliates, directly or indirectly, to any person,
partnership, corporation or association on the security of obligations or ASsets of Transamerica Corporation and/or its directly or indirectly owned or

controlled diaries or affiliates.
Source banking practice requires that the earnings of the bank be
conserved in order to provide an adequate net sound capital structure in
keeping with the accepted standards and with due consideration to the fixed

nature of a large portion of the assets of your bank and, further, that the
Board of Directors declare no further dividend unless, in addition to meeting

all statutory conditions precedent, all assets classified as estimated losses
in the last preceding report of examination and any other assets known to

be losses first shall have been charged off, and all other assets adversely
classified shall have been properly provided for through write-down or through
the establishment and allocation of adequate reserves.

This office is unwilling to permit a bank under its supervision,
with such a volume of criticised assets as has your bank, with such a large
concentration in credits extended to Transamerica Corporation and its subsi-

diaries and affiliates for a long period of time, with such a heavy concentration in real estate and in assets dependent upon the liquidation of real
estate for their elimination from the bank, with such & weak capital position,
with such a tremendous amount of insured deposits, with so many and BO widely

dispersed branches, with so many inter-related affiliates, with such violations of law, and with continued acts of unsafe and unsound banking, to continue to conduct its business in its customary manner without challenge.

Pursuant to the provisions of Section 30 of the Banking Act of 1933,
the Comptroller of the Currency hereby warns the bank, its officers, the
Board of Directors and members thereof, to discontinue the unsafe and unsound

practice of extending credit in such a manner as to result in an unwarranted
concentration; of declaring any dividend unless proper provision for the cri-

ticiand.ussets of the bank be first made; and to discontinue the violations of
herein set forth.

This letter should be read at the next meeting of the Board of Directora

recorded in the minute book of its proceedings. The Board of Direc-

tors

d reply in detail to the several questions propounded in this letter

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to

referred to, over the individual signatures of the at

FP, setting forth the corrections effected in each of the
BTB, and the Board's plan for the complete elimination of
Les thereof should be forwarded to Chief National Bank Examiner
LBS, Jr., 155 Montgomery Street, Room 1103, San Francisco, Cal-

ifornia to National Bank Examiner L. H. Sedlacek, at the same address.

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November 25, 1938

FOR THE SECRETARY:

The Banking Group - Messers Hanes, Taylor, Delano, Upham,

Gaston, Duffield and Foley - met in Mr. Hanes office. The concensus of the
meeting was that Secretary Morgenthau need not call President Day of the
San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank on the Transamerica-Bank of America situation
which might develop following the issuance of the SEC order against Transamerica.

Mr. Upham said that he would have ready Monday a draft of

a formal letter of warning to go to the Bank of America and that he wanted it
sent because he felt he was subject to some criticism for delay on the letter.
Those present, other than Mr. Upham, expressed the opinion that the Bank

should be given a reasonable time in which to answer the Comptroller's letter

of Nov. 23 before the letter of warning is sent.
Mr. Duffield suggested that the SEC be advised to subpoena

the copies of the bank examiners' reports which are in the possession of the

Bank of America to forestall possible legal obstacles and criticism of the
Comptroller for making available office copies. Mr. Foley said he would
pass the suggestion on to SEC counsel.

Mr. Delano said that Tommy Corcoran had brought to him,

after a conversation with Mr. Oliphant, a part proposal for a bill to insured
small business loans up to 80% and to raise the insurance fund by a 1% tax

on bank deposits. He said that Corcoran wanted Treasury clearance on the bill,
having obtained SEC approval, and that a draft of the details of the plan was
to be sent to him. Mr. Hanes, Mr. Taylor, Mr. Gaston and Mr. Daffield expressed
disapproval of the bank deposit tax feature.

ESD

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MEMORANDUM

Mr. Delano

To:

Mr. Upham

From:

The attached letter is intended as a reply to
the Bank of Ameri ca letter of October 11th. It
outlines briefly those major bad policies and practices which have resulted in unsafe conditions

criticised in our letter of September 23rd with the
view to clarifying the real and tangible issues.
The letter is also intended to serve as a general
warning.

I believe it should go forward at once to each
director

(1) It will save time by constituting agenda
for conferences with the management.

(2) It will answer statements by A.P. Giannini
that we can not or dare not answer his

letter.
(3) We cannot disregard bank practices now

brought to public attention by SEC, esspecially since Transamerica points to

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-2the fact that their independent auditors
(Ernst & Emst) made up their reports
from data supplied to the Comptroller of
the Currency.

(4) Delay in action by the Comptroller's
office in this and other matters is
being cited as evidence that there was
no necessity for prompt action by the
Secretary in making a change in this
office.

The attached draft of letter does not contain:
(1) Answers to technical questions (reserved).
(2) Justification for telegram September 13th
and letter September 23rd.

(3) Discussion of Stewart Line.
(4) Discussion of German Credits.
(5) Answer to bank's agreement to charge off
part of loss on investment securities.

(6) Reiteration of instructions carrying value
of investment securities.

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-3(7) Discussion of legal requirements of
capital and proper tests (savings bank).
(8) Discussion of management dominating

directors.

(9) Discussion of service charges.
(10) Discussion of violation of 5201.
(11) Discussion of publication of earnings.

(12) Discussion of classification of "slow"
as criticised.
(13) Instructions as to how to keep minutes.
I think we should move ahead with a citation to
the Federal Reserve Board under Section 30 as rapidly
as possible.

Upm

Enclosure

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Board of Directors

Bank of America National Trust
and Savings Association

San Francisco, California
Gentlemen:

With further reference to the letter signed by individual

directors of your bank under date of October 11, 1938, which has
heretofore been acknowledged, I have carefully reviewed and studied

the information at hand relating to the activities engaged in,

methods employed and results obtained by your management and Board

of Directors over the past several years. That there has been a

failure to cooperate with this office in correcting criticisms is

amply evidenced by the fact that the same general criticisms are
found in each successive report covering that period.
The time has arrived when an understanding between the

bank and this office must be reached, for I assure you that continued failure to correct existing weaknesses and discontinue unsound and unsafe practices will not go unchallenged.
The office letter of September 23, 1938, outlined the
wholly unsatisfactory capital and asset condition of your bank.
This two-fold weakness is manifestly attributable to such unsafe
and unsound policies as (a) refusal of management and directorate

to frankly recognize asset problems in general, (b) failure, if
not refusal, to enforce and liquidate legally and morally binding

obligations of Transamerica Corporation and allied interests, (c)
refusal to retain a substantial portion of earnings to create adequate reserves and correct under-capitalization, (d) persistent
dealings with Transamerica Corporation and allied interests in
other than conventional and accepted methods employed in dealings

with other clients of the bank, (e) refusal to make and keep the
bank independent of rather than subservient to the interests and
expansion ambitions of Transamerica Corporation.

With the view of clarifying the issues, it is deemed advisable at this time to outline briefly several major unsound
policies and practices which have resulted in the present criticized condition.

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-2Inter-America Corporation Contracts
(Nonbankable Assets)

In 1931 and 1932, assets which were classified as nonbankable and loss aggregating more than $35,000,000 were made the

subject of three contracts, known as the Inter-America Corporation
contracts, entered into by and between the bank and a wholly-owned

subsidiary of the Transamerica Corporation. Without indulging at
this time in a discussion of whether or not the written agreements
technically constitute contracts of sale or contracts of guaranty,
a glance at the manner in which the obligations created by these
contracts were eliminated reveals that the bank has not realized
any substantial part of these obligations by way of cash payments out
of funds or assets belonging to the debtor. On the contrary, a
large portion of the obligations arising out of these contracts was
eliminated (in round numbers) by:

(1) Writing up the book value of Government
and municipal bonds owned by the bank and

writing down the liability on the contracts $14,000,000
(2) Making a charge to undivided profits of
the bank and a credit on the contracts

500,000

(3) Applying proceeds of liquidation of charged

off assets purported to have been sold under
1933 and 1934 contracts (referred to hereinafter)

(4) So-called guaranteed loans (executed in

July, 1937)

1,480,000

5,840,000

When the 1931 and 1932 contracts were entered into there
was an outward manifestation by the Transamerica Corporation of a

purpose to strengthen the capital position of the bank by causing
a wholly-owned subsidiary to enter into the agreements. These contracts purported to represent, not only to the public, but also to
the Comptroller, legal and binding obligations of the subsidiary,
as well as valid assets of the bank. At that time, the Transamerica
Corporation owned over 99% of the stock of the bank and was respon-

sible either directly or indirectly for the threatened impairment
of the bank's capital position. By the devious means outlined above
(the legality of which is open to serious question), the binding obligations of the Transamerica Corporation and/or its subsidiaries,
under these contracts, are now represented to have been eliminated.

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-3Nothing is accomplished at this time by quibbling over the
question of whether or not the Inter-America Corporation contracts
were "extensions of credit to the bank" or "extensions of credit

by the bank". It should suffice to state that these binding ob-

ligations have not been performed by the real obligors and that
while the Board of Directors and/or the management were willing
to give token recognition to the asset problems of the bank in
1931 and 1932, yet they have failed, neglected or refused to enforce and collect from the real obligor the $35,000,000 in obligations then acquired. On the contrary they have placed, as well
as kept, the interests of the bank and its creditors subservient
at all times to the interests of the Transamerica Corporation and

its allied interests by making what are, in effect, gifts to that
corporation.

Capital Company and California Lands,

Inc.. Contracts

(Charged-off Assets)

In 1933 and 1934, assets which had been charged-off, as
well as those which were to be charged off from then until July,
1937, were the subject of two contracts of sale entered into by
the bank with wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Transamerica Cor-

poration, for a total consideration of $300,000. It now appears that the proceeds of liquidation of these assets to the
extent of more than $1,480,000 have been utilized for the purpose of eliminating a like portion of the liability under the

1931 and 1932 contracts discussed above. The residue of these
charged-off assets appears to have been sold back to the bank
in July, 1937, for $6,500,000 under an agreement whereby the
Transamerica Corporation is to share equally with the bank in
recoveries over and above the $6,500,000 purchase price until the
year 1947. If the 1933 and 1934 agreements were contracts of

sale, then the consideration of $300,000 paid or agreed to be
paid therefor was totally inadequate and the sale transactions
are subject to close scrutiny and are probably voidable. If on the
other hand the 1933 and 1934 agreements constitute in effect either

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guaranties or contributions to the bank to the extent of $300,000 then
the assets remained the property of the bank and by no process of reasoning can it be said that the Transamerica Corporation and/or its af-

filiates are entitled to (1) credit for the proceeds of liquidation to

the extent of more than $1,480,000, (2) the benefit of the proceeds of
the purported resale of these charged off assets for $6,500,000, or
(3) a participation in any recovery over and above the purchase price.

All of the recoveries (past, as well as future) on the charged

off assets should have been and should be used to take care of other
losses and to strengthen the capital structure of the bank, rather than

be made the subject of gifts either directly or indirectly to the Transamerica Corporation and its allied interests.

Real Estate Concentration

The last several reports of examination contain no major
criticisms of the examiner directed at the general character of real
estate loans now being made.

In general, the criticisms of the real estate concentration

can be epitomized as follows:

(1) Real estate, formerly securing distressed loans acquired through foreclosure or otherwise, has not been disposed of within the five-year period prescribed by statute
but rather has been made the subject of several successive
contracts of sale, the terms of which were varied from time
to time to meet the exigencies of the purchasing corporations rather than to protect and benefit the bank.
(2) Banking premises, including those properties acquired
in July, 1937, by the Merchants National Realty Corporation,
are not bankable assets and should be disposed of for a cash
consideration rather than be retained and manipulated through
affiliated corporations over a long period of years.
A brief chronology of the changes made in each successive re-

sale of foreclosed properties will demonstrate the soundness of the criticisms in this respect. The original contracts under which the bank disposed of its "Other Real Estate" were made with National Bankitaly Corporation (wholly owned by the shareholders of the bank), and provided for ini-

tial payments of 25% of the book value of the real estate sold with interest

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at 6% on unpaid balances, payment in full to be made within a period
Subof five years, the purchasing corporation to pay the taxes.
sequently, these contracts were canceled and new contracts were entered
into between the bank and Capital Company and California Lands, Inc.,
(both corporations wholly owned by Transamerica). The first contracts
entered into with these corporations provided for initial payments of
10% of the purchase price of the property (determined by actual cost
to the bank rather than estimated value), and 10% each year thereafter
with interest at the rate of 1% per annum on unpaid balances, the taxes
to be paid by the bank. These contracts were subsequently canceled
and new contracts entered into between the bank and the same corporations whereby no initial or down payment was required and 10% per annum
was to be paid from and after two years from the date of acquisition.
The new contracts provided for the acceptance by the bank, at face
value, of any notes or sale contracts received by these corporations
in payment for the real estate sold by them. The annual 10% payments
have no relationship to each property sold under the contracts but

rather to the aggregate of the purchase price of all properties sold
to each corporation.

If the bank'a action in agreeing to paying for the taxes on
these properties was impelled by a desire to save income or capital
stock taxes, then it would appear (a) the reason for this clause no

longer exists, and (b) it is difficult to reconcile the notion that

the bank had sold the real estate under the contracts but yet still
owns it for taxation purposes.

With respect to the acquisition in July, 1937, by the Mer-

chants National Realty Corporation of several properties from the
Capital Company, it is significant to note that the Capital Company
(which is wholly owned by Transamerica Corporation) was relieved

from any risk or hazard of loss through depreciation in value of the
real estate, while the Merchants National Realty Corporation (wholly
owned by the bank) assumed that risk. Furthermore, the agency

contract between the Merchants National Realty Corporation and the
Capital Company appears to be a most desirable and profitable one
from the latter company's point of view, and wholly unnecessary

for the Merchants Realty Corporation to enter into in view of its
extensive real estate holdings and operations. In addition,
WO can see no legal or practical justification of the use of bank
funds to the extent of $5,875,000 for the purpose of indirectly
purchasing real estate not necessary for its accommodation in the

transaction of its business, theretofore sold under legal and

binding contracts.

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-6Transamerica Corporation Concentration

The technical questions of whether the "Guaranteed Loans" and
the "Option to purchase National City Bank stock" constitute extensions
of credit within the meaning of Section 5200, U.S.R.S., and Section 23A of
the Federal Reserve Act, or are otherwise legally objectionable, are reserved for further consideration and study. Aside from the above technical features, the fact remains that obligations totaling $76,000,000 (of
which more than $44,700,000 is classified as slow), and representing about
68% of the bank's capital structure, (as shown by the books), are substantially dependent upon the future prosperity, earning power, success, etc.,

of the Transamerica Corporation and its allied interests. That fact is

sufficient to demonstrate the unsoundness of the practice of placing such
a large percentage of the bank's resources in obligations or investments
which are dependent for realization upon substantially one source.

As pointed out in the last report of examination, there has
been comparatively little actual improvement in the total amount of the
loans set out under the Transamerica Corporation large line for the last
several years. Such reductions as have taken place are the result, to a
large extent, of substituting different types of obligations, or obligations of other affiliates, for those previously existent. A considerable
portion of the proceeds of the items classified under the large line of
Transamerica Corporation has reverted either directly or indirectly to
the benefit of Transamerica, and to further its expansion ambitions.
Real Estate contracts entered into with the Capital Company and
the California Lands, Inc., have been commented upon under the heading of
"Real Estate Concentration". Those comments, together with the observations made directly above, clearly evidence the unsafe and unsound policy
of persistently placing the interests of the Transamerica Corporation and

its allied interests above those of the bank and its depositors.
Dividend Policy

This office has not been and is not now unmindful of the substantial earning capacity of the Bank of America National Trust and Savings Association. If the capital position and asset condition of the bank

were satisfactory, objection would not lie to the utilization of a reason-

able portion of the current earnings in the payment of dividends to stockholders. But when consideration is given to the fact that since the date of
conversion of the bank into the National Banking System to June 30, 1938,
losses actually charged off amounted to approximately $82,000,000 (with additional losses as shown by the last report of examination amounting to approximately $8,000,000), while the net operating profit for the same period
was approximately $88,000,000, it is apparent that the record made in the
past ten year period does not prove that the net operating profit is

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commensurate with the dividends paid during that period amounting to
$69,203,300, or consonant with the progressive increase of the dividend
rate from 6% in 1933 to 19.2% in 1938.

There is a large aggregate of assets which have not been and
are not now in bankable form. Sound banking requires that the earnings
of a bank be conserved not only to provide against possible future
adverse conditions, but to eliminate from the assets of the bank the
results of past adverse conditions, regardless of how they arose or
were created, or who was responsible therefor.

In the past, the substantial dividend payments have benefited
in the main, but one shareholder, namely, the holding company affiliate

which owned 99.65% of the bank stock, and even at this time the
Transamerica Corporation, as owner of approximately 42% of the bank

stock, will be the largest single beneficiary of any dividend payment.
Re-Arrangement of Transamerica

Corporation Affairs in July, 1937
As of June 30, 1937, the assets of the Interamerica Corporation,
as well as its liabilities, were taken over by the Transamerica Corporation, which owned all of the stock of the Interamerica Corporation. The
Transamerica Corporation, as the now owner of the assets of the Interamerica Corporation, became a holding company affiliate of the Bank of

America.

At that time, the Interamerica Corporation, as successor in
interest to the Corporation of America, was obligated to the bank to
the extent of more than $8,500,000 on the contracts to purchase the non-

bankable assets, and the Capital Company (wholly owned by the Transamerica Corporation) was obligated to the bank to the extent of about

$6,000,000 on contracts originally entered into in 1931 by the

Transamerica Corporation to purchase former and future banking premises.

On July 14, 1937, the Transamerica Corporation substituted
$5,844,299.82 of the proceeds of the alleged resale to the bank of its
previously charged off assets plus the option to purchase National City

Bankon
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indications that the Transamerica Corporation is not assuming any

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-substantial liability in guaranteeing the liquidating value of these
assets. An analysis of the so-called option to purchase National City

Bank stock discloses first that the stock was sold when the market was

high and second that there is no liability in persons on the part of

the Transamerica Corporation, the recourse of the bank being limited
to the stock actually sold as well as the additional shares pledged
to secure the purchase option.

On July 14, 1937, another adjustment was made, namely, the

substitution of the obligation of the Merchants National Realty Cor-

poration for that of the Capital Company to purchase unused banking

premises. If any loss is sustained on the real estate covered by
these contracts, the bank will suffer that loss because the Merchants
National Realty Corporation is wholly owned by the Bank, whereas if
the contracts had remained as they were prior to July 14, 1937, the
risk of loss would have been borne by the Capital Company, which is

wholly owned by the Transamerica Corporation.

Whatever the motive may have been for the readjustment of the

affairs of the Transamerica Corporation in July, 1937, it resulted in
(1) relieving the Transamerica Corporation from liability and risk of
loss before it distributed 58% of the bank stock to its shareholders,
and (2) placing the risk of loss on the Bank of America.

It is the spirit rather than the letter of the law which fixes
the duty of the Comptroller. It is his duty to insist upon the correction of practices or conditions which violate accepted and proven sound

banking principles, whether or not they violate the letter of the
statutes. This is especially true in the case of the Bank of America
because of its size and the extensiveness of its field of service.
Therefore, it is deemed fair and appropriate to advise you that it shall
be the unwavering aim and purpose of this office to carefully scrutinize:
1. All practices and actions which have resulted or which
may result in weakening the capital structure whether by way

of unjustified dividends, the improvident use of the credit

facilities of the bank by, contributions to, or the forgiveness of obligations of, allied or special interests.
2. The substance rather than the form of all methods
employed in correcting unsound or criticised conditions,
practices or policies.

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Furthermore, you may rest assured that this office will insist with
every power at its command that the bank establish an adequate sound

capital position, that it refrain from unjustifiable favoritism to

allied special interests, that it correct the weaknesses and remove
the bases of criticisms before making any unjustifiable use of bank
funds to pay dividends and that it take appropriate steps to eliminate
the undue concentration in real estate including that portion thereof
which has been camouflaged through the use of allied corporations.

All of the unsafe and unsound practices which have been
criticised must be discontinued and you are hereby so warned.

The future course of action to be taken by this office will
depend to a large extent upon the steps taken by the directors and
management of the bank to correct the conditions and practices hereto-

fore criticised. The task confronting the Board of Directors and the

management is not underestimated but we will insist that that task be
performed adequately and expeditiously. At the same time we wish to
cooperate to the fullest extent and to that end we will gladly confer
with your committee or representatives of the management at any time
with a view to formulating sound future policies.

Very truly yours,

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November 28, 1938.
FOR THE SECRETARY:

At a meeting of the Comptroller's staff, to which I was invited
as representing the Secretary, two questions were raised about the attitude
of the Treasury on the Anglo-California National Bank case:

1. Would the Treasury object to a out-back in the preferred

stock from $20,000,000 or $17,000,000 cash value to $5,000,000

par value provided full disclosure on all statements is
required?

2. Would the Treasury object to the RFC suggestion that the
Bank be allowed from the outset to pay dividends, if earned,
on the common stock not to exceed 3% of the par value annually?

My only suggestion was that the Comptroller ask the questions of
the Treasury banking group.

On the first question, the amount of the preferred stock to be
bought may vary between $20,000,000 and $17,000,000, cash value, depending

upon the number of assets charged off. The par value would be $5,000,000
regardless of which sum was invested. The RFC wants to arrange a two to one
voting control.
On the second question, Mr. Husbands of the RFC, who was present,

said the RFC thought that, because of the wide distribution of the Bank's
common stock and the active trading in it, continuation of the dividends
on it, if earned, might be desirable even from the point of view of the RFC.
He admitted that the dividend would be a "come-on" to support the value of
the common stock. A dividend of 3% on the par value of the common stock

would be a dividend of from 7% to 9% on the sound value of the stock but

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-2would take only about $360,000 annually, whereas, the Bank has been earning
between $2,000,000 and $3,000,000, enough to pay both common and preferred
dividends, he said.

As to the general progress of the program, Mr. Sedlaock, the examiner,
reported that everything is awaiting consummation of the deal whereby Standard

oil is to lend the Fleishhakers about $2,600,000 so that the Fleishhakers can
repay the Bank. Mr. Jesse Jones has been working on the consummation of the

loan and will report on it upon his return Wednesday, Mr. Husbands said.

Mr. Sedlacek reported that conversations and letters with persons
on the West Coast convinced him that uncertainty among people generally about

the future of the Anglo-California was beginning to hurt the Bank and that
action should be taken within a week if the management of the Bank as well
as public confidence is not to become demoralized. The Bank's Washington

lawyer had quoted Mortimer Fleishhaker to Mr. Sedlacek as saying that the
"picture looked bad" and that he was "very much worried" about unnamed developments Saturday following release of the SEC Transamerica order.

ESD

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November 28, 1938

FOR THE SECRETARY:

Mr. Crowley of the FDIC and the members of the Treasury Banking
Group - Messrs. Hanes, Taylor, Delano, Upham, Oliphant, Gaston, Duffield,

and Foley - met in Mr. Hanes' office to discuss a proposed letter of
warning to the Bank of America, N. T. & S. A., which was prepared under
Mr. Upham's direction.

Mr. Delano raised the question of whether the letter of warning
should be sent before the Bank had had an opportunity to answer the

Comptroller's letter of Nov. 23 which left the way open for a conference
with the Bank.

Mr. Crowley warned that Mr. Giannini would make capital out of

any long delay in answering his letter of Oct. 11. Mr. Oliphant said
that he believed the Treasury had determined to proceed as rapidly as

possible under section 30 and that the letter of warning should go

as soon as it is ready. Mr. Gaston, also urging that the letter go as
soon as possible, said that sending the letter would show the Treasury's
determination to proceed and also would prevent the Bank from claiming

in any conference with the Comptroller that its detailed defense was
unanswered; the letter could be worded to avoid any implied discourtesy

in sending it before having a reply to the Nov. 23 letter.
Mr. Hanes said that he thought sending of a second letter without
waiting for a reply to the first would be discourteous and would be
so considered if the record of the case were ever made public.

If no reply to the Nov. 23 letter were received within four days, the
second letter could EO, and, if a reply were received, the second letter

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could be sent as an agenda of the conference to be held with the Bank,
he suggested.

Mr. Upham urged that the letter as written be sent today and

that no longer delay was to be tolerated. He said he was greatly influenced in his opinion by the fact that the morale of his staff had been
harmed by the letter of Nov. 23 which the staff considered to be more of

the temporizing tactics characteristic of the past 10 years.
Mr. Duffield suggested that the Group might want to go over

the letter carefully with the technicians who had written it and that
this procedure would consume enough time so that the letter would not
be ready to go to the Bank until the Bank had had ample opportunity to
answer the Nov. 23 letter. Mr. Taylor expressed a similar view emphasizing

his desire to check the letter carefully.
A meeting was arranged for 3:15 p.m. Nov. 30 to permit the Group

to discuss the proposed letter with its drafters.
Mr. Delano said that he wanted the letter carefully prepared
because he had received intimations from the Federal Reserve Board that

the Treasury's case should be a good one before it is laid before the
Board under section 30. Mr. Crowley said he believed Giannini was drawing
comfort from a feeling that the Federal Reserve was not supporting the
rest of the supervisory agencies,

During the meeting Mr. Gaston told Mr. Delano that newspapermen

wanted to see him about the SEC Transamerica order. At Mr. Delano's request
the Group expressed the opinion that the Comptroller answer no questions
about the Bank's condition and decline to discuss the SEC order.
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could be sent as an agenda of the conference to be held with the Bank,
he suggested.

Mr. Upham urged that the letter as written be sent today and

that no longer delay was to be tolerated. He said he was greatly influenced in his opinion by the fact that the morale of his staff had been
harmed by the letter of Nov. 23 which the staff considered to be more of

the temporizing tactics sharasteristic of the past 10 years.
Mr. Duffield suggested that the Group might want to go over

the letter carefully with the technicians who had written it and that
this procedure would consume enough time so that the letter would not
be ready to go to the Bank until the Bank had had ample opportunity to
answer the Nov. 23 letter. Mr. Taylor expressed a similar view emphasizing

his desire to check the letter carefully.
A meeting was arranged for 3:15 p.m. Nov. 30 to permit the Group

to discuss the proposed letter with its drafters.
Mr. Delano said that he wanted the letter carefully prepared
because he had received intimations from the Federal Reserve Board that

the Treasury's case should be a good one before it is laid before the
Board under section 30. Mr. Crowley said he believed Giannini was drawing
comfort from a feeling that the Federal Reserve was not supporting the
rest of the supervisory agencies.

During the meeting Mr. Gaston told Mr. Delano that newspapermen

wanted to see him about the SEC Transamerica order. At Mr. Delano's request
the Group expressed the opinion that the Comptroller answer no questions
about the Bank's condition and decline to discuss the SEC order.
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Board of Directors

Bank of America National Trust
and Savings Association
San Francisco, California.
Centlemen:

ith further reference to the letter signed by individual

of your bank under date of October 11, 1938, which has
directors been acknowledged, I have carefully reviewed and studied

at hand relating to

heretofore the information the activities management engaged and in,

methods employed and results obtained by your Board
Directors over the past several years. That there has been a
of failure to cooperate with this office in correcting criticisms is
amply evidenced by the fact that the same general criticisms are
found in each successive report covering that period.
The time has arrived when an understanding between the

bank and this office must be reached, for I assure you that continued failure to correct existing weaknesses and discontinue unsound and unsafe practices will not go unchallenged.

The office letter of September 23, 1938, outlined the
wholly unsatisfactory capital and asset condition of your bank.
This two-fold weakness is manifestly attributable to such unsafe
and unsound policies as (a) refusal of management and directorate
to frankly recognize asset problems in general, (b) failure, if
not refusal, to enforce and liquidate legally and morally binding
obligations of Transamerica Corporation and allied interests, (c)
refusal torretain a substantial portion of earnings to create adequate reserves and correct under-capitalisation, (d) persistent
dealings with Transamerica Corporation and allied interests in
other than conventional and accepted methods employed in dealings
with other clients of the bank, (e) refusal to make and keep the
bank independent of rather than subservient to the interests and
expansion ambitions of Transamerica Corporation.

ith the view of clarifying the issues, it is deemed ad-

visable at this time to outline briefly several YOU for unsound
policies and practices which have resulted in the present criticized condition.

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Inter-America Corporation Contracts
(Nonbankable Assets)

In 1931 and 1932, assets which were classified as nonbankable and loss aggregating more than $55,000,000 were made the

subject of three contracts, known as the Inter-America Corporation
contracts, entered into by and between the bank and a wholly-owned
subsidiary of the Transamerica Corporation. Without indulging at
this time in a discussion of whether or not the written agreements

technically constitute contracts of sale or contracts of guaranty,

a glance at the manner in which the obligations created by these
contracts were eliminated reveals that the bank has not realized
any substantial part of these obligations by way of cash payments out

of funds or assets belonging to the debtor, on the contrary, a
large portion of the obligations arising out of these contracts was
eliminated (in round numbers) by:

(1) writing up the book value of Government

and municipal bonds owned by the bank and

writing down the liability on the contracts .. $24,000,000
(2) Making a charge to undivided profits of
500,000
the bank and a credit on the contracts
(3) Applying proceeds of liquidation of charged

off assets purported to have been sold under
1933 and 1934 contracts (referred to herein-

1,480,000

(4) se-called guaranteed loans (executed in

5,840,000

after)
July,

1937)

When the 1931 and 1932 contracts were entered into there
was an outward manifestation by the Transamerica Corporation of a

purpose to strengthen the capital position of the bank by causing
a wholly-owned subsidiary to enter into the agreements. These con-

tracts purported to represent, not only to the public, but also to
the Comptroller, legal and binding obligations of the subsidiary,

as well bank. At thatthetime,
the Transamerica
stock of
-ible either directly or indirectly for the

Corporation as valid owned assets over 99% of the of the threatened bank and impairment was respon-

of the bank's capital position. By the devious means outlined above ob-

(the legality of which is open to serious question), the binding
ligations of the Transamerica Corporation and/or its subsidiaries,

under these contracts, are now represented to have been eliminated.

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Nothing is accomplished as this time by guibbling over the
question of whether or not the Intervinerios Corporation contracts
were "extensions of credit to the bank" OF "extensions of credit

by the bank". It should suffice to state tist these binding ebe

ligations have not been performed by the real obligare and that
while the Board of Directors and/or the management were willing
to give taken recognition to the asset problems of the bank in
1931 and 1932, yet they have failed, neglected OF refused to force and collect from the real obliger the $85,000,000 in obligations then acquired. On the contrary they have placed, as well
as kept, the interests of the bank and its creditore subserview
at all times to the interests of the Transamerica Corporation and

its allied interests by making what are, in effect, sifts to that

corporation.

Capital Company and California Lands,
Inces Combracts

(Charged-off insets)
In 1933 and 1954, assets which had been charged-off, as
well as those which were to be charged off from than until July,
1937 were the subject of two contracts of sale entered into by
the bank with whollywomed subsidiaries of the Transameries Can

poration, for a total consideration of $300,000. It now age
pears that the proceeds of liquidation of these assets to the
extent of more than 81,480,000 have been utilised for the pure

pose of eliminating a like portion of the liability under the

1981 and 1952 contracts discussed above. The residio of these
charged-off assets appears to have been sold back to the bank
in July, 1937, for $6,500,000 under an agreement whereby the
Transamerica Corporation is to share equally with the bank in
recoveries over and above the 86,500,000 purchase price until the
year 1967. If the 1983 and 1996 agreements were contracts of
sale, then the consideration of $800,000 paid OF agreed to be
paid therefor was totally inadequate and the sale transactions

are subject to close scrutiny and are probably voidable. If on the
other hand the 1988 and 1994 agreements constitute in effect either

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parenties or contributions to the bank to the extent of $800,000 them
the assets remained the property of the bank and by no process of seeing can is be said that the Transimerial Corporation and/or its as

fillates are entitled to (1) credit for the proceeds of liquidation to

the extent of more than $1,480,000, (a) the benefit of the pressois of
the purported remale of these charged off assets for $6,500,000, or
(8) a participation in any recovery ever and above the purchase price.
All of the recoveries (past, as well as future) on the charged
off assets should have been and should be used to take care of other

lesses and to strengthen the capital structure of the bank, rather than
be made the subject of gifts either directly or indirectly to the Transemerica Corporation and its allied interests.
Real Estate Concentration

The last several reports of examination contain no major
criticisms of the examiner directed at the general character of real
estate loans new being made.

In general, the criticians of the real estate concentration

can to epitomised as follows:

(1) Real estate, fornerly securing distressed leane -

quired through foreclosure or otherwise, has not been dis.
posed of within the fiveryear period preserted by statute
but rather has been made the subject of several successive
contracts of sale, the terms of which were varied from time
to time to most the exigencies of the purchasing corporations
rather than to protect and benefit the bank.
(2) Banking premises, including those properties acquired
in July, 1987, by the Merchants National Realty Corporation,
are not bankable assets and should be disposed of for a eash
consideration rather than be retained and manipulated through

affiliated corporations over a long period of years.
& brief chronology of the changes made in each successive -

sale of foreclosed properties will deconstrate the cominess of the eritisiens in this respect. The original contracts under which the bank dis-

posed of its "Other Real Estate* were made with National Bankitaly Corpora-

tion (whelly oured by the shareholders of the bank). and provided for initial payments of ⑉ of the book value of the real estate sold with interest

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at as on unpaid balances, payment in full to be made within a period
of five years, the purchasing corporation to pay the taxes. Sube
asquently, those contracts were canseled and new contracts were entered
into between the bank and Capital Company and California Lands, Inc.,

(both corporations wholly owned by Transameries). The first contracts
entered into with these corporations provided for initial payments of
10% of the purchase price of the property (determined by actual cost
to the bank rather than estimated value), and 10% each year thereafter

with interest at the rate of 1% per - on unpaid balances, the taxes

to be paid by the bank. These contracts were subsequently canceled
and new contracts entered into between the bank and the same corporations whereby no initial or down payment was required and 10% per annual
was to be paid from and after two years from the date of acquisition.
The now contracts provided for the acceptance by the bank, at face
value, of any notes or sale contracts received by these corporations
in payment for the roal estate sold by them. The annual 10% payments
have no relationship to each property sold under the contracts but

rather to the aggregate of the purchase price of all properties sold
to each corporation.

If the bankts action in agreeing to paying for the taxes on

these properties was impelled by a desire to save income or capital
stock taxes, then it would appear (a) the reason for this clause no

longer exists, and (b) it is difficult to recencile the notion that

the bank had sold the real estate under the contracts but yet still
owns it for taxation purposes.
with respect to the acquisition in July, 1937, by the Merchants
National Realty Corporation of several properties from the Capital
Company, it is significant to note that the Capital Company (which
is wholly owned by Transameries Corporation) was relieved from any

risk or hasard of less through depreciation in value of the real

estate, while the Merchants National Realty Corporation (wholly
owned by the bank) assumed that risk. Furthermore, the agency
contract between the Herehants National Realty Corporation and the
Capital Company appears to be a most desirable and profitable one
from the latter company's point of view. and whelly unnecessary

for the Merchants Realty Corporation to enter into in the of its
extensive real estate holdings and operations. In addition,
we can see no legal or practical justification of the use of bank
funds to the artent of $5,895,000 for the purpose of indirectly
purchasing real estate not necessary for its accomuodation in the
transaction of its business, theretefore sold under legal and
binding contracts.

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Transameries Corporation Consentration

The technical questions of whether the "Guaranteed Loans" and
the "Option to purchase National City Bank stock" constitute extensione
of credit within the meaning of Section 5200, U.S.R.S., and Section SSA of
the Federal Reserve Act, or are otherwise legally objectionable, are reserved for further consideration and study. Aside from the above techni-

cal features, the fact remains that obligations totaling $78,000,000 (of

which more than 144,700,000 is classified as slow), and representing about
68% of the bank's capital structure, (as shown by the books), are substantially dependent upon the future prosperity, earning power, success, etc.,

of the Transameries Corporation and its allied interests. That fact is

sufficient to demonstrate the unsoundness of the practice of placing such
a large percentage of the bank's resources in obligations or investments
which are dependent for realization upon substantially one source.

As pointed out in the last report of examination, there has
been comparatively little actual improvement in the total amount of the
loans set out under the Transamerica Corporation large line for the last
several years. Such reductions as have taken place are the result, to a
large extent, of substituting different types of obligations, or obligations of other affiliates, for those previously existent. A considerable
portion of the proceeds of the items classified under the large line of
Transamerica Corporation has reverted either directly or indirectly to
the benefit of Transanerion, and to further its expansion ambitions.
Real Estate contracts entered into with the Capital Company and
the California Lands, Inc. have been commented upon under the heading of
"Real Estate Concentration". These comments, together with the observations made directly above, clearly evidence the unsafe and unsound policy
of persistently placing the interests of the Transamerios Corporation and

its allied interests above these of the bank and its depositors.
Dividend Policy

This office has net been and is not now mindful of the substantial earning capacity of the Bank of America National Trust and Save

ing Association. If the capital position and asset condition of the bank
were antisfactory, objection would not lie to the utilisation of a reason=
able orien of the current earnings in the payment of dividends to stock
holders. But when consideration is given to the fact that since the date of

conversion of the bank into the National Banking System to June 30g 1938,
losses actually charged off amounted to appreximately $82,000,000 (with additional losses as shown by the last report of examination amounting to ap
proximately $6,000,000). while the net operating prefit for the same period
was approximately $88,000,000, it is apparent that the record made in the

past ten year period does not prove that the net operating profit is

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commission with the dividends paid during that period amounting to
$69,203,300, or consonant with the progressive increase of the dividend
rate from or in 1933 to 19.2% in 1938.
There is a large aggregate of assets which have not been and
are not now in bankable form. Sound banking requires that the earnings
of a bank be conserved not only to provide against possible future
adverse conditions, but to eliminate from the assets of the bank the
results of past adverse conditions, regardless of how they arose or
were created, or who was responsible therefor.

In the past, the substantial dividend payments have benefited
in the main, but one shareholder, namely. the holding company affiliate
which owned 99.65% of the bank stock, and even at this time the
Transamerios Corporation, as owner of approximately 42% of the bank

stock, will to the largeut single beneficiary of any dividend payment.
Re-Arrangement of Transameries

Corporation Affairs in July 1937
As of June so, 1937, the assets of the Internmeries Corporation,
as well as its liabilities, were taken over by the Transamerica Corporation, which owned all of the stock of the Interamerica Corporation. The
Transameries Corporation, as the new owner of the assets of the Interamerica Corporation, because a holding company affiliate of the Bank of
America.

At that time, the Interemeries Corporation, as successor in
interest to the Corporation of America, was obligated to the bank to
the extent of more than $8,600,000 on the contracts to purchase the name

bankable assets, and the Capital Company (wholly owned by the Transamerica Corporation) was obligated to the bank to the extent of about

$6,000,000 on contracts originally entered into in 1931 by the

Transameries Corporation to purchase forner and future banking premises.

On July 24, 1937, the Transameries Corporation substituted
$6,844,299.82 of the proceeds of the alleged resale to the bank of its
previously charged off assets plus the option to purchase National City
Bank stock, which then had a market value of 12,710,800, for its
liability on the original $35,000,000 contracts executed by the Coro

poration of America. The statement in your letter to the effect that
the Bank desired to purchase the charged off assets, and the further
fact that the agreement under which these assets were repurchased

provides for a participation by the Transameries Corporation in the
proceeds or liquidation over and above 96,800,000, are pretty clear
indications that the Transameries Corporation is not assuming my

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substantial liability in guaranteeing the liquidating value of these
assets. An analysis of the so-called option to purchase National city
Bank stock discloses first that the stock was sold when the market was

high and second that there is no liability in persons on the part of

the Transamerica Corporation, the recourse of the bank being limited
to the stock actually sold as well as the additional shares pledged

to secure the purchase option.

On July 14, 1937, another adjustment was made, namely, the

substitution of the obligation of the Marchants National Realty Care
poration for that of the Capital Company to purchase unused banking

premises. If any loss is sustained on the real estate covered by
these contracts, the bank will suffer that loan because the Merchants
National Realty Corporation is wholly owned by the Bank, wherens if
the contracts had remained as they were prior to July 14, 1937, the
risk of loss would have been borne by the Capital Company, which is

wholly owned by the Transamerica Corporation.

Whatever the motive may have been for the readjustment of

the affairs of the Transamerica Corporation in July, 1937, it resulted

in (1) relieving the ransemerica Corporation from liability and risk of
loss before it distri uted 58% of the bank stock to its shareholders,
and (2) placing the risk of loss on the Bank of America.

It is the spirit rather than the letter of the law which fixes
the duty of the Comptroller. It is his duty to insist upon the correc-

tion of practices or conditions which violate accepted and proven sound

banking principles, whether or not they violate the letter of the
statutes. This is specially true in the case of the Bank of America
because of its sine and the extensiveness of its field of service.
Therefore, it is deemed fair and appropriate to advise you that it shall
be the unwavering aim and purpose of this office to carefully serutinizes
1. All practices and actions which have resulted or which
may result in weakening the capital structure whether by way
of unjustified dividends, the improvident use of the credit

facilities of the bank by, contributions to, or the forgiveness of obligations of, allied or special interests.
2. The substance rather than the for of all methods
employed in correcting unsound or criticised conditions,
practices or policies.

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Purthermore, you may rest assured that this office will insist with
every power at its command that the bank establish an adequate sound

capital position, that it refrain from unjustifiable favoritism to

allied special interests, that it correct the wasknesses and remove
the bases of criticisms before making any unjustifiable use of bank
funds to pay dividends and that it take appropriate steps to eliminate
the undue concentration in real estate including that portion thereof
which has been canouflaged through the use of allied corporations.
All of the unsafe and unsound practices which have been
criticised must be discontinued and you are hereby so warned.

The future course of action to be taken by this office sil.

depend to a large extent upon the steps taken by the directors and
management of the bank to correct the conditions and practices hereto

fore criticised. The task confrenting the Board of Directors and the

management is not underestimated but we will insist that that task be
performed adequately and expeditiously. At the same time we wish to

cooperate to the fullest extent and to that and we will gladly confer

with your committee or representatives of the management at any tire
with a view to formulating sound future policies.

Very truly yours,

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November 29, 1938/

FOR THE SECRETARY:

The Comptroller's lawyers who have been working on the

so-called letter of warning to the Bank of America told me today in

Mr. Foley's office that they did not think that the Treasury has a case
against the Bank under section 30. The letter which they had written
and to which a formal warning paragraph had been added was drafted merely

as a letter of criticism and not as a letter of warning in the legal sense,
they said.

I told them I thought we had a case and under questioning
they conceded that they would agree to basing a case on (1) the dividend

policy, (2) the real estate juggling of the Bank and possibly (3) the
large extension of credit to Transamerica by the Bank. Pointing out the
decision of the Banking Group to proceed, as did the SEC, on the basis
of those charges of which we are sure, I urged that the proposed warning

letter be edited down to those charges and sent. Their objection to this
suggestion was that they preferred to develop the whole case instead of

only parts of it.
During my absence from the room to attend another conference
the lawyers and bank examiner present decided to suggest to the Banking

Group that the letter drafted under Mr. Uphams direction and sent to you

by him not be used as the letter of warning. Instead the lawyers decided
to write a new letter of warning based on a 30-page detailed draftel prepared by two of the examiners and one of the lawyers. This procedure they

said might take two or three weeks. I objected to the prospective delay
and said I hoped they would try to complete two or three big charges quickly.
The whole matter will go before the banking group.

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November 30, 1938

FOR THE SECRETARY:

The following persons met in Mr. Hanes' office to
discuss a letter of warning to the Bank of America, N.T.& S.A.,
Hanes, Taylor, Oliphant, Delano, Upham, Duffield, Foley, Robertson,
Kane, Mulroney, Folger, and Smith of the Treasury, and Crowley and
Jones of the F.D.I.C.

Mr. Oliphant said that the letter of warning proposed
by Mr. Upham under the date of November 28th was not one for which he

would like to take responsibility. He said that he wanted to start
with a more complete letter worked out by the bank examiner and one

lawyer and to take from it those portions of which he could be certain.
Such a procedure he said would take two weeks or more.

Mr. Delano agreed with Mr. Oliphant and added that

the letter of warning should be prepared in final form as soon as
possible and should be very complete.

Mr. Robertson of the General Counsel's office said
that he thought the letter proposed by Mr. Upham should be sent not

as a letter of warning, but as an interim letter to answer the reply
of the Bank made on October 11th.

Mr. Duffield objected to the sending of the letter
saying he thought it was an inadequate reply to the Bank's October 11th
letter and that the Legal Department should not take the time to make

it adequate, but should proceed with work on the letter of warning.
Mr. Foley said he thought the letter should not be sent.

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-2Mr. Upham said he strongly favored sending the letter,
Mr. Hanes said he thought it should go, and Mr. Taylor said he thought

whether it was sent or not made little difference.
Mr. Delano, although saying that he preferred not to
confuse the issue with too many letters, said that he would send the
letter proposed by Mr. Upham as an interim letter if that was the sense
of the group, and if the Legal Division assured him that there was
nothing in the letter which would prejudice the sending of a warning

letter later. Mr. Oliphant said the Legal Division would be glad to
go over the letter with this point in mind, to tell Mr. Delano whether
the letter would hamper later action and to leave with him the matter
of whether the letter should be sent.
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November 29, 1938

FOR THE SECRETARY:

Elloitt Thurston informed me this morning that, although
today is the deadline for expiration of the Transamerica voting permit
for its bank stocks, the Board of Governors plans to take no action
pending word from the Coast. I asked him:

"Then failure of the company to notify you of compliance

does not mean that you will act against it?"

He replied that the Board would not act until it had
a report from the San Francisco reserve bank, which had been instructed
to ascertain whether Transamerica had complied, and that after hearing
from San Francisco the Board would have to pass on the merits of the

case. In other words, several weeks will Pass before anything conclusive
is done.

The Wall Street Journal this morning carries a brief
paragraph saying that J. M. Grant, president of Transamerica, announced

sales of the company's interest in Bancamerica Blair corp.: if the sale
is bona fide it would help the company meet the requirement for continuation

of its voting permit. The name of the purchaser was not given.
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November 29, 1938

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Hanes

Last night Bill Douglas called me on the telephone and told me
that he had received during the afternoon a call from Marriner Eccles,
who told him that he had just returned from Warm Springs. Marriner
told Bill Douglas that the President had asked for information and
his opinion on the Transamerica order issued by the SEC. In response
to the President's question, Marriner told Bill that he had said that
he thought the order was hastily drawn, had not been thoroughly thought
out, that it was likely to cause a great disturbance on the Pacific
Coast and that he, Marriner, was very much upset by the whole procedure.
He told the President that he had not known about the order and that
the SEC had not consulted with him. Bill Douglas was very angry and
felt that Marriner had done the Commission a great injustice, and told
him so over the telephone.

Bill Douglas said that he wanted to acquaint us with this fact
because Marriner had also dealt very critically with the Treasury and
with the Comptroller's office about the manner in which they had
handled the West Coast situation. Bill asked me to transmit this information to you in the hope that the SEC and the Treasury would straighten
the matter out in the mind of the President as Bill was under the impression that the President had been upset by Marriner. I thought it

might be advisable for you to call Bill and have him tell you the full
details of his conversation with Marriner.

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November 30, 1938

To:

M

The Secretary

From: Mr. Hanes

I have just talked with Jesse Jones who had just finished talking
with the Standard Oil people in re. the Standard Oil and Anglo American

preferred stock. He said that the Standard Oil and the Fleishhackers
had not yet reached an agreement, that there was a difference of opinion
between them: and that Mortimer Fleishhacker wanted to come on to see

him (Jones). Jesse Jones would not consent to Mortimer Fleishhacker
coming here, but told him that he was going to proceed at once and
wanted the Standard 011 and the Fleishhackers to get into agreement

at the earliest possible moment. He said he saw no reason why his group
could not arrive at a decision and give us some information by noon

tomorrow. Gene Duffield and I will follow this through tomorrow.

JWH

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November 30, 1938

FOR THE SECRETARY:

The following persons met in Mr. Hanes' office to
discuss a letter of warning to the Bank of America, N.T.& S.A.,
Hanes, Taylor, Oliphant, Delano, Upham, Duffield, Foley, Robertson,
Kane, Mulroney, Folger, and Smith of the Treasury, and Crowley and
Jones of the F.D.I.C.

Mr. Oliphant said that the letter of warning proposed
by Mr. Upham under the date of November 28th was not one for which

he would like to take responsibility. He said that he wanted to
start with a more complete letter worked out by the bank examiner
and one lawyer and to take from it those portions of which he
could be certain. Such a procedure he said would take two weeks
or more.

Mr. Delano agreed with Mr. Oliphant and added that the

letter of warning should be prepared in final form as soon as
possible and should be very complete.

Mr. Robertson of the General Counsel's office said
that he thought the letter proposed by Mr. Upham should be sent

not as a letter of warning, but as an interim letter to answer
the reply of the Bank made on October 11th.

Mr. Duffield objected to the sending of the letter
saying he thought it was an inadequate reply to the Bank's
October 11th letter and that the Legal Department should not
take the time to make it adequate, but should proceed with

work on the letter of warning. Mr. Foley said he thought the
letter should not be sent.

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Mr. Upham said he strongly favored sending the letter,
Mr. Hanes said he thought it should go, and Mr. Taylor said he
thought whether it was sent or not made little difference.
Mr. Delano, although saying that he preferred not to
confuse the issue with too many letters, said that he would send
the letter proposed by Mr. Upham as an interim letter if that
was the sense of the group, and if the Legal Division assured him

that there was nothing in the letter which would prejudice the
sending of a warning letter later. Mr. Oliphant said the Legal

Division would be glad to go over the letter with this point in
mind, to tell Mr. Delano whether the letter would hamper later
action and to leave with him the matter of whether the letter
should be sent.

ESD