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DIARY

Book 341

December 18 - 20, 1940

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Book Page

Air Bases, Army

For itinerary of proposed inspection trip by HMJr,
see War Conditions: Army, United States

Aluminum

See War Conditions: Strategic Materials
Appointments and Resignations

Kuhn, Ferdinand, Jr.: Joins Treasury staff - 12/19/40.

341

218

Army, United States

For itinerary of proposed inspection trip by HMJr,

see War Conditions: Army, United States (Air Bases; Camps)

-BBinocular Purchases by Navy
See War Conditions: Germany

-Camps, Army

For itinerary of proposed inspection trip by HMJr,

see War Conditions: Army, United States
Chemical National Bank and Trust Company
See War Conditions: Germany
China

See War Conditions
Copper

See War Conditions: Strategic Materials
Curtiss-Wright Aircraft
See War Conditions: Airplanes
-DDutch East Indies
See War Conditions: Silver

-EEccles, Marriner S.
See Federal Reserve System for special report on
monetary preparedness in connection with military
defense

--Federal Bureau of Investigation
Klaus memoranda - 12/18/40

98,99,100

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Book

Page

341

170

Federal Reserve System

Special report to Congress urging preparedness in monetary
organization in connection with defense program 12/19/40

a) HMJr, Gaston, Bell, Haas, White, and Kuhn
discuss - 1/2/41: See Book 344, page 14

b) HMJr, Foley, Sullivan, Haas, Gaston, Bell, White,
and Kuhn discuss: Book 344, page 28
1) Proposed statement by HMJr: Book 344, pages 44
and 96

c) FDR sent press comment "showing its a fight over
interest rates" - 1/3/41: Book 344, page 337
d) Viner asked to review proposed memorandum for FDR

"which he will memorize and then destroy" 1/6/41: Book 345, page 50
e) Aldrich speech in Boston to be compared with Eccles
plan by White - 1/6/41: Book 345, page 193
f) Leading bank stocks (approximately six) to be
watched by Haas - 1/7/41: Book 345, page 305

1) See Haas memorandum - 1/9/41: Book 346, page 272

2) Discussion at 9:30 meeting - 1/10/41:
Book 346, page 300

3) Haas requested to ask Henderson who dealt in
these bank stocks - 12/31/40: Book 348, page 95

g) Jones tells press conference he is opposed to plan -

1/8/41: Book 346, page 41
h) White memorandum commenting on proposals - 1/8/41:
Book 346, page 59

1) Eccles' letter to HMJr concerning - 1/13/41:
Book 347, page 152

j) Cochran memorandum - 1/24/41: Book 350, page 297
k) FDR provided with Treasury report on Federal Reserve
Board recommendations - 1/30/41: Book 353, page 69
Financing, Government

Porter, Sylvia: Columns on "free riding" discussed by
9:30 group - 12/18/40
World War I financing - resume'of - 12/20/40

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273

-GGermany

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control
-H

Harrison, George L. (President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York)

Guest list for dinner given for HMJr - 12/18/40

Italy

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control

167

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Book Page

Kuhn, Ferdinand, Jr.
See Appointments and Resignations

-LLiaison Committee
See War Conditions

-NNavy

For binocular purchases see War Conditions: Germany
Netherlands East Indies
See War Conditions: Silver
New York Telegraph

Boycott because of articles favoring LaGuardia discussed
by HMJr and Gaston - 12/18/40

341

166

-PPeru

See War Conditions: Strategic Materials (Copper)
Porter, Sylvia
See Financing, Government
Portugal
See War Conditions

Publicity, Treasury
HMJr again refuses signed article in connection with
inauguration - 12/18/40
Putlitz (zu), Baron Wolfgang
Wiley report - 12/19/40
-RRoumania

See War Conditions

-SShipping
See War Conditions

Silver
See War Conditions
Steel

See War Conditions

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208

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341

127

U.S.S.R.

See War Conditions: Foreign Funds Control
United Kingdom

See War Conditions: Military Planning; Shipping:
United Kingdom

-WWar Conditions

Airplanes:

Curtise-Wright to produce 300 additional P-40's for
delivery in May, June, and July, 1941; allocation
discussed in memorandum to Hull - 12/18/40

a) HMJr discusses with Phillips - 12/20/40

237

b) Young memorandum - 12/22/40:
See Book 342, pages 37 and 39

c) Conference with State, Army, and Liaison
Committee - 12/23/40: Book 342, page 47
d) Conference with British Purchasing Mission Young memorandum - 12/23/40: Book 342, page 51

Army, United States: Air Bases; Camps

Itinerary of inspection trip by HMJr as suggested by
Chief of Staff - 12/18/40

162

China:

Central Reserve Bank new regulations reported 12/20/40

a) For capitalization, see Book 342, page 22
b) . reaction, see Book 342, page 254

Exchange market resume' - 12/18/40, etc
Foreign Funds Control:
Germany

Transaction with Chase National Bank - 12/19/40.

252

117,213,246

217

Italy:

Transactions with Chase National Bank, National City
Bank, and Federal Reserve Bank of New York 12/18-19-20/40

U.S.S.R.:

Transactions with Chase National Bank - 12/18/40

119,120,215,
216,248
121

Germany:

Navy order for binocular spare parts referred to
Treasury for opinion - 12/18/40.

Purchase by Germans of German properties of American
corporations: Discussion by Chemical National Bank
and Trust Company with State Department - 12/18/40.
Liaison Committee:
"Informal Committee" now servicing many foreign
governments: HMJr's memorandum to FDR - 12/19/40

116

135

219

a) FDR's acknowledgment - 1/4/41: See Book 345, page 1

Military Planning:
Reports from London transmitted by Butler 12/18/40, 12/20/40

89,91,313

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War Conditions (Continued)
Portugal:
Anglo-Portuguese payments agreement transmitted by
State Department - 12/20/40
Purchasing Mission:

Vesting Order: Official sales of British-owned
dollar securities - 12/18/40

Requirements: Simultaneous announcements discussed
in Cochran memorandum - 12/19/40

Book

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341

288

124,125
190

a) Proceeding up to point of signing and then
awaiting Congressional action protested by
Phillips
"Informal Committee* (Liaison Committee) now servicing
many foreign governments: HMJr's memorandum to
FDR - 12/19/40.

219

a) FDR's acknowledgment - 1/4/41:
See Book 345, page 1

Statement showing dollar disbursements transmitted
by Federal Reserve Bank of New York - 12/20/40

266

Roumania:

Anglo-Roumanian transfer agreement transmitted by
State Department - 12/20/40
Security Markets (High-Grade):
Recent Developments: Haas memorandum - 12/18/40
Shipping:

Lothian memorandum on British shipping losses and
replacements: Copies sent to Knox, Hull, Stimson,
and Knudsen - 12/18/40
British 60-ship program: Delay explained in Young
memorandum - 12/18/40

Silver:
Netherlands East Indies program for purchases in
connection with coins to be made for their
government and similar purchases discussed in Cochran
Steel:

memorandum - 12/20/40.

Congestion in industry leads HMJr to resume' in
memorandum to FDR - 12/18/40.

Strategic Materials:
Aluminum: West Coast fabricating capacity - Young
preliminary report - 12/19/40
Copper: Importation from Peru without duty discussed
by Jones and Gaston - 12/20/40

288
104

142
148

249

101

226
306

United Kingdom:
Anglo-Portuguese payments agreement and Anglo-Roumanian

transfer agreement transmitted by State Department -

288

12/20/40

United States financing during World War I - resume of 12/20/40
World War I

See War Conditions: United States Financing

273

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 18, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Haas

Subject:

Butter under loan or owned by Department of

Agriculture.

In response to your request of yesterday, I have learned
that the Commodity Credit Corporation has acquired under its
1940 price stabilization program 66,000 pounds of butter,
valued at approximately $19,000, and the Surplus Marketing
Administration has 25,000 pounds (chiefly 1939 butter) for

relief distribution, valued at about $8,500. This represents
the total present interest of the Department in the butter

market.

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THE SECRETARY OF STATE
WASHINGTON

December 18, 1940.

Dear Henry:

Thank you very much for your note of
December seventeenth and its enclosure re-

garding British plans for the future, which
I anticipate examining with keen interest.

I shall not forget their confidential nature.
Sincerely yours,

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

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December 18, 1940
9:17 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

James

Forrestal:

Henry?

H.M.Jr:

Good morning.

F:

Good morning. I was going to bring this
message over sometime this morning. I think

you want to see it. It's fairly complete
and it's a report on

H.M.Jr:

Why don't you do this to save yourself.

F:

Well, yeah, but he's on a mission today.

H.M.Jr:

Oh.

F:

I can get the Secretary's Aide to do it,

Haven't you got a Naval Aide?

Mort Deyo.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, it would save you trouble unless you

want to see me about something.

F:

No. Well, I'll just do that because I didn't
want to let this

H.M.Jr:

Would that be all right?

F:

Yeah, I'll bring it over - 80 long as he hands
it to you.
Yes, if he could - I'm always glad to see
you but I want to save you that trouble.
Right. O. K., Henry.

H.M.Jr:

If he'11 come over about quarter of 11:00 -

F:

H.M.Jr:

he may have to wait a little bit, and I don't
like to keep you waiting.

F:

O. K., Henry.

H.M.Jr:

How's that?

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-2F:

That's fine.

H.M.Jr:

How are you after yesterday's meeting?

F:

Well, I think that - I don't know whether
we'll get it by today or not, but I think
that it has progressed and I think that's a -

there's only one thing that - I'd like to

have it on a basis where we could have reference

to you on these things - we'd not flatter you
at all about it but because I think that

procedure - these are men who don't know
some of the temperamental qualities down here,

H.M.Jr:

you see, and I think that they need guidance.
Well, they can have whatever 18 left of me.

F:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

I'm available. I mean, I'm available whenever,
you know, there is something like yesterday,
or any other time.

F:

Well, I think you'll be - there'11 be need for
because this isn't going to be fun from here

more and more of that as the pressure gets on,
in.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it's been that way since 1928. (Laughs).

F:

(Laughs). I know it. I know it.
All right.
All right, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Good-bye.

F:

H.M.Jr:

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December 18, 1940
9:30 a.m.

GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Pehle

Mr. Thompson

Mr. Chamberlain

Mr. Wiley
Mr. Haas

Mr. Foley
Mr. White
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Young
Mr. Cochran
Mr. Graves

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

That worked out all right with the press. Where

Schwarz:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

The Times, I haven't had time to read them all.
The New York Times, I thought, handled it all
right.

Gaston:

I think all of them substituted the correct quote.

Schwarz:

The transcript, that is right.

H.M.Jr:

But that was a dirty piece of business, that subcommittee up on the hill.

is Schwarz?

George, if you would come here a minute. I won't

fuss with this now, but in the next two weeks, if

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you could fill in - I think back of this line,
give me one figure (indicating chart) from
January through July 6. If you give it all, it
would be too much, but if I could have a total
from January 2 through July 6. A total, one
figure, and then totals here.

Haas:

Until the beginning of the year?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. Do you need this?

Haas:

No.

H.M.Jr:

Who is working on ships for me, the whole shipping question?

Foley:
Gaston:

Herbert and I.

I had a date to go over, but I didn't go on

account of other matters yesterday, and there is
another meeting this morning.

H.M.Jr:

Good morning, Professor.

Chamberlain:

Good morning, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

I won't be able to read this today, and I haven't.

This is a confidential thing. I got it and the
President and three Cabinet members.

(Memorandum from Lord Lothian to the Secretary
dated December 8, 1940, giving data on shipping
losses and replacements, November 1940)7 Authd 12/8/40
H.M.Jr:

This is the whole shipping question, the loss of

their shipping and everything else. It is confidential on the background. The President, Hull,

Knox, Stimson, and Knudsen got copies of that

this morning. I am giving you as good service.

Ed, this Congressman (Ludlow) is only interested
in, could we, under our present laws, make a loan

-3to Canada. Couldn't you, on the telephone,
call him up and say we are interested, is
there anything in the law which would keep our
Government or a private citizen from making a
loan? Which would it be?
Foley:

Well, in so far as the Johnson Act is concerned,
the Johnson Act only applies to private citizens,
and the Attorney General answered, among other

questions back in 1934, the question that a

political subdivision or a dominion of a country
that was in default on its indebtedness to the

United States would not be under the ban of the

act, and an individual in the United States
could make a loan to a political subdivision or

a dominion of such an empire, so that if England
were actually in default under the Johnson Act,

there would be no prohibition in so far as a

loan to London is concerned-H.M.Jr:

But if England was under the law.

Foley:

That was one of the questions discussed, and
at that time he held she wasn't because there
were negotiations looking to an adjustment of

the War debts. Now I don't think there is any
question about the fact she is in default within
the meaning of the act.

H.M.Jr:

How. about the Neutrality Act?

Foley:

The Neutrality act doesn't apply to the United
States, probably by a construction that was

placed on it by a discussion on the floor. It

does apply to corporations, the Import-Export
Bank, and the RFC, but not to the Treasury.
H.M.Jr:

What I would do is, I would call him on the telephone. He is a lawyer. He is a member of a law

firm. Then there is nothing in writing. Don't
you think that is a better way to do it?

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-4Foley:

All right. And then we will hold this letter

H.M.Jr:

Kill it.

Foley:

All right. I perhaps spoke out of an overabundance of caution, and the only reason that
I wanted to bring it up was--

H.M.Jr:

Well, your caution is justified. You just don't

and not send the letter?

know how these - the afternoon headlines - when
I went home and read the headlines in The Star

and then read the body of the story, it was a
most outrageous thing. They headlined three times

in the
Star?

Gaston:

H.M.Jr:

body of the story. Did you read it? The

Yes.

The story they hedged all the way down the line,
but the headlines were terrible.

Schwarz:

Not enough words in the headline to explain it.

Foley:

I don't like to see you quoted in the paper as

having said that the Johnson Act prevents you

from making loans or giving credits.
H.M.Jr:

I didn't say that.

Foley:

Well, I know, but I'don't like to have it appear
that you said that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I said that--

Foley:

The Johnson Act doesn't apply.

H.M.Jr:

What I said was, and I still hold, that as long
as the Congress feels as it does, I, personally,

will not make any loans to England.
Foley:

As a matter of policy?

-5 H.M.Jr:

As a matter of policy. Are we together on that?

Foley:

Yes, that is all right.

H.M.Jr:

I said irrespective of what the lawyers said.

Foley:

I know. You said they look for loopholes, too,
but there is no question of loopholes.

H.M.Jr:

I am sorry. (Laughter) Do you feel better now?

Foley:

Klotz:

Yes, I feel better. Dan is giving me the bird.
Oh, I love that. Oh, that is marvelous.

H.M.Jr:

We are putting a united press in your office
(Schwarz).

Schwarz:

That was what I asked six months ago.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I always told you if you didn't holler
loud enough around this place--

Schwarz:

I got your support for it this time.

H.M.Jr:

You didn't ask me for it, did you?

Schwarz:

I asked Norman.

H.M.Jr:

He is the watchdog. He is the head of the

Treasury Budget Committee. I am just Secretary

of the Treasury. (Laughter) It costs 75 dollars

a month.

Do you think we are all right on our publicity

now, Herbert?
Gaston:

Oh, yes, the President took all the heat off.

Anyway, I wasn't seriously concerned about the
story, except as a matter of your own understandings here in the Government.
H.M.Jr:

His statement and mine ran all right because

9

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-5after he got through making this talk about the
fire hose, he ended up by saying, "Well, we will
maybe have to give it to them anyway." He

criticized Mrs. Roosevelt indirectly, not too
indirectly, for the banal suggestion of a gift

and then ended up by saying, Well, maybe we will
have to give it to them anyway."
Gaston:

I have no difficulty in underwriting your statement. I have a lot of difficulty in underwriting
the President's talk about leasing and all that
sort of thing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, it is all right.

Bell:

Does that include bombs?

Gaston:

It may be a good psychological approach.

H.M.Jr:

I have got to take a share of the responsibility
with it. He said, "I want you to be my public,

at lunch, and he rehearsed the thing word for
word, and I told him it was all right because he
should be a little tougher than what I thought
Congress might be, rather than Congress tougher

than he, and to break the ice, I think it is

all right.
Gaston:

I think it is a good way to open it up.

H.M.Jr:

I will take whatever my proportion of the re-

sponsibility is.

Gaston:

I think just as it lies now, it is sort of im-

practical, but then I think it is a good way to
open it up.

Foley:

I think it could be worked out legally without

going to Congress the way he suggests.
White:

I am wondering whether, before Cabinet meeting

tomorrow or before anything is done, we couldn't

-6have a chance to discuss it with you or submit
a memorandum. I share Herbert's feelings, and

I think, though it is a very excellent move,
puts the thing on the right basis, excellent
politically and psychologically, that it can

be implemented in such a way as to avoid many
of the disadvantages, and I am wondering whether

before you see the President or before you -

whether we couldn't have a chance to submit
suggestions and discuss the disadvantages in

the way of implementing it.

H.M.Jr:

I am just sewed up so tight, I can't even see

Commissioner Helvering.

Sullivan:

He didn't holler loud enough. It was 10 days
early, but not loud enough (speaking loudly).

(Laughter) We will have to get him a megaphone
for Christmas.

White:

He is just learning fast.

Sullivan:

I have got a memorandum herefor you to give the

President, and that takes care of that thing.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I go on the theory that it either takes
care of it or bursts. You (Sullivan) look all
right. You look very happy.

Gaston:

By the way, did I call your attention to that
paragraph in the transcript where you said that
you think all of this about Great Britain and

Canada should stay within the room? After you
got done talking about Great Britain and Canada

and the Johnson Act, you said that, "I think all
of this about Great Britain and Canada ought to
stay within this room.

H.M.Jr:

Mrs. Morgenthau said last night, "Its lovely to
have all these editorials that you should go

up on the Hill and consult Congress, but look
what happens when you do." I mean they will just

spill it.

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12

Schwarz:

Within an hour.

H.M.Jr:

Well, the difference is, I should only consult
the Democrats. It is true. Just as soon as you
let a Republican in you see what happens.

Bell:

Yesterday. I am not so sure that it was a Republican yesterday, though.

H.M.Jr:

You are not?

Schwarz:

Partly a Republican.

H.M.Jr:

Who do you think it is?

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

Well, for a while I suspected Mr. Johnson who
has a son on the United Press.
Who is Johnson?

The one who sits at the right of the Chairman,
the old man from West Virginia.

Well, now, I thought I would call up the Chairman. What is his name?

Schwarz:

Ludlow.

H.M.Jr:

And tell him that he embarrassed me terribly
yesterday. What harm is that?

Bell:

I don't think there is any harm. I think you

ought to tell the Committee-Sullivan:

They are going to be there for the next three or
four days, your various bureaus, testifying in
detail, and he can make it pretty unpleasant for

for the boys.
White:

I am wondering whether that isn't a good thing
to remember the next time you go up, or the next
time they ask you, rather than calling it to
their attention now.

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-8 Gaston:

He was very much upset, both he and Mark Shields,

the clerk, and he called an executive meeting
of the committee yesterday afternoon on this

H.M.Jr:

thing, and went over this transcript.
Shall we let it ride?

Gaston:

I think I would, yes.

White:

If for no other reason, that after all you fre-

quently go over testimony correcting errors and
so on, and if you get tough with them they are
liable to get tough with you.
H.M.Jr:

Well, on the train back, I heard this voice from
the wilderness.

Sullivan:

John is the name.

Bell:

John from the wilderness.

H.M.Jr:

If you have a memorandum sometime and you holler

early enough and loud enough, maybe I will get to

it, and this is the important thing. The meeting
with Senator Glass is at eleven tomorrow. Now,
who is going to tell the story.
Foley:

Well, --

H.M.Jr:

You see, I think that you should go, I think I
should go, and I think Delano should go, but I

don't think - don't you think that is enough?
Foley:

All right. O.K.

H.M.Jr:

Can you learn it?

Foley:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Between now and tomorrow?

Foley:

Yes.

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-9H.M.Jr:

And can you get it to Senator Glass' hotel?

Foley:

Yes,
theit?
memorandum is all ready. Do you want
to read

H.M.Jr:

I haven't got time. Why don't you personally
arrange
it to-- to drop it over there or arrange to give

Foley:

Ritchie Smith.

H.M.Jr:

He can come and get it.

Foley:

All right, I will.

H.M.Jr:

Are you (Bell) going with us tomorrow?

Bell:

I can.

H.M.Jr:

It is not necessary.

Bell:

No.

H.M.Jr:

All right, I will save you.

Bell:

This is a letter to Leon Henderson on the statistics of income tables. Are you going to do
anything about getting Phillips and Prebisch

together on the British securities, is that

our job?
H.M.Jr:

No. I have mentioned it now to everybody, and

I think that in view of what happened, I wouldn't

push it. I have told Prebisch about it, and I
have told Phillips about it.
Bell:

Prebisch, last time he was in, asked if you
wanted a joint conference, and I told him I
didn't know if you had that in mind, but I would
find out.

White:

That was one of the items on the agenda that was

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sent down to them, but I think it could be
well handled in the next discussion we have in
Mr. Bell's office without bothering you about
it, because
I don't
from
it at this
end.think anything will develop
H.M.Jr:

I think I would let the two of them get together.
I would simply say this, "They are here and let
the two of them get together; and, if they have

anything, we will be glad to talk to them." I
don't want to be pressing them.

White:

I think it is better that they do it.

H.M.Jr:

Let the two get together.

Bell:

I don't think we are interested unless they use
our dollars.

H.M.Jr:

That is right. What else?

Bell:

That is all.

H.M.Jr:

Harold? I still will see you. I don't think

it will be until next week now, because I am going
up Thursday night to this dinner, and I hope not
to come back until late Friday. Chick?
Schwarz:

Sylvia Porter gives us some ideas in her column.
They have got a good line there. They suggest
defense liberty bonds.

H.M.Jr:

I saw her at my house yesterday.

Schwarz:

That may be a result.

H.M.Jr:

I had quite a talk with her. She is an awfully
swell girl.

Schwarz:

She is very smart.

Bell:

Not so friendly at times, is she?

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

Well, she was right, Dan.

Bell:

It wasn't exactly right. The Treasury was a party
to it. She intimated that the Treasury did it
so that they could have the free riding. That
isn't quite true. She could have pointed out
all the steps we have taken to eliminate the
free riding.

H.M.Jr:

Well, but the woman is smart.

Schwarz:

She analyzed the situation.

H.M.Jr:

We may have her down here. Yes, sir, I am serious
about having her come down for six months. No
likee?

Bell:

It is hard enough around here now. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

She knows this racket in New York.

Foley:

Who is that, Mr. Secretary?

H.M.Jr:

Mrs. Porter. She writes for the New York Post,
and she knows the racket, how to beat the game

better than anybody I have seen. I don't say
she knows it any better, but at least she will

tell.

White:

We are making studies on the individual corpora-

tions, the British corporations. I am just let-

ting you know so that in case you want them, we
have a study on each separate industry. We are
beginning with the largest and going down the

list.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

White:

And we had thought, unless you feel to the contrary, that we would also cooperate with the SEC
man whom they are loaning to us in evaluating
these. I don't know whether you would rather
postpone that until some later date or not. We

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- 12 had thought merely of going ahead.
H.M.Jr:

Use your own judgment.

White:

O.K. That is all. Did I understand you to say
that
you would read a memorandum if we prepared
it on--

H.M.Jr:

Yes, if you get it to me within - Cabinet is
tomorrow, that is the trouble. I am all fixed
up.

White:

It is only because it is taking so much of the
stage that it is worth while.

H.M.Jr:

If you can get it to me in my waking hours.

Haas:

Mr. Secretary, you have asked if we would work
up some charts on the different bank holding
companies. We have completed three, and I have
got another one here. Do you want me to turn

them in to you, or--

H.M.Jr:

To Professor Foley. He is going to give this
lecture tomorrow; and, if you have some other

Haas:

than trans-American, it would be very helpful.
Yes. This makes four.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Haas:

Cy Upham is getting the dope from the banking

men. That is the big one.
H.M.Jr:

Is it pushing you too much, Ed, to have this
lesson ready by tomorrow?

Foley:

No. I don't think we will have that second part
of the legislation that you spoke to me about.

H.M.Jr:

That is all right.

- 13 Foley:

I have got the holding company legislation, but
the other part I won't be ready with.

H.M.Jr:

Good. I will have to just sit there with Carter

Haas:

18

Glass and listen.

I forgot to attach copies of - I put the wrong

name on this, on that steel thing.
H.M.Jr:

This should be Henderson?

Haas:

Yes. That was your suggestion, you know.

H.M.Jr:

I hadn't had time to read it yet. Philip?
Slessor

Young:

Air Commodore Schlesser has sent in another note

in reply to the reply of the War Department to
his original note.
H.M.Jr:

How does he know about the War Department note?

Young:

I don't know, but he takes up the points one by
one. I thought I would summarize all three and
give you a short summary of the bunch before he
has a chance to get out another one.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

White:

Mr. Secretary, did you happen to hear a report
that the CIO is going to present to the President
ways of expanding airplane capacity by using other
factories and so on? You said something about
it. I wonder whether you might not want to get

hold of it.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

White:

I don't know who can get it for you. I can't.

H.M.Jr:

CIO?

White:

The various vice presidents are indicating in a

19

- 14 memorandum how plane production can be increased

and why it is under produced now.

H.M.Jr:

Well,
the person to get it through is the Commissioner over there.

Schwarz:

Hillman.

H.M.Jr:

The CIO fellow?

Schwarz:

Hillman.

White:

Well, I don't know what avenues you have, but

if you are interested in the report--

Schwarz:

That has been published, that they were planning
such a report.

H.M.Jr:

Call up his office and say if there is such a
report, I would like to have a copy of it.

White:

I will do that for you if you like.

H.M.Jr:

Do it direct.

White:

Is there somebody here who deals with him at all?

H.M.Jr:

No.

White:

I will call up Lubin, his assistant.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, that is good.

Young:

I haven't yet been able to get out of Nelson's
office a copy of his recommendations on treat-

ment of foreign priorities. I understand that
he has gone home and won't be back until after

the first of the year. He left about a week or
so ago. Because of pressure on that stuff,

unless you have some objection, I thought I
would write up a few sample cases of foreign

priorities for the formal presentation to the

Priorities Board as such and then see what they do.

- 15 H.M.Jr:

20

I haven't got it enough, Phil. If you think it
is good, all right, but I can't give you any
judgment on it. I don't know enough about it.

Young:

All'right.

H.M.Jr:

But I think I would talk it over with Graves
and discuss it with Graves. My judgment is no
good because I don't know enough about it.

You will have to decide whether it would be help-

ful or harmful in view of what we are trying to

do.

Young:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Discuss it with Graves, and whatever the two of

you decide, O.K.
Young:

That is all.

Pehle:

Was there anything particular about Martinique
that I should know? I sent you that memo as to
what we did--

H.M.Jr:

Well, just this, that two hundred seventy thoue
sand - if that is correct - I read the memorandum.
Why don't we just call up the State Department
and say, "Why don't they release it."

Pehle:

Well, we had a conference while you were away

over at State in Mr. Berle's office, and at that
time they were having a great deal of difficulty

with the Admiral, the French Admiral in charge
of Martinique, who has since been supplanted
from Vich, and he was threatening at any time
to take one of the boats and put some gold on
it and leave, and the State Department felt

that in view of that attitude they had better
go very slowly, particularly on a monthly allow-

ance. Then they asked for this large amount
monthly, and which is quite large in comparison
with the individual amounts that they have asked

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- 16 -

for. Since then I have heard, although it hasn't
been confirmed, that the French have agreed to
cut that amount in half, but we still haven't
heard from the State Department about the monthly

license. Now, if you want to, I will be glad to
call them up.

H.M.Jr:

Well, just ask them where it stands.

Pehle:

We had a letter within the past week saying that
that was still under consideration.

H.M.Jr:

Well, ask them again.

Pehle:

I will.

H.M.Jr:

The French Ambassador - I sat next to him Satur-

day night - raised the thing.

Pehle:

I don't think they really have any complaint.

H.M.Jr:
Pehle:

Raise it, will you?
Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Professor Chamberlain?

Chamberlain:

We had an appointment at three o'clock this
afternoon, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

It still stands.

Haas:

Mr. Secretary, may I be excused to go up to that
Appropriations Committee?

H.M.Jr:

Sure.

I have a note here for you. Read this. It is
in my own handwriting. I would like to know more
about it. I happen to be related - he is a first

cousin by marriage, and if there is anything
more, I would like to know.

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- 17 Wiley:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

I know what his firm in Paris has done, and I

have always been very curious.
Merle?
Cochran:

I have this memo from the British on gold. I
have circulated it to Bell and White and Bernstein. And I have these figures on allowances
that you wanted to see. Then there is a cablegram from Shanghai that I think you ought to
read when Archie is here, at least have it before you.

H.M.Jr:

Well, tell Archie to bring it in, and let Archie

Cochran:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Can't Archie read it?

Cochran:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Let Archie read it, and I won't be at a loss.
That is all.

Cochran:

Bell:

read it.

By the way, should Archie sit in on these

Chinese-H.M.Jr:

Well, you had better wait until I see him. Now,
I am seeing him at eleven. He doesn't want to

go and all the rest of it. He will be here at
eleven o'clock.

Bell:

We are going to have a conference this morning
internally on the agreement. The Chinese are

not in it at all.

H.M.Jr:

Well, let him sit in on that anyway. He is all
right.

23

- 18 Cochran:

The State Department fellows are coming.

H.M.Jr:

Let him sit in on it.

Sullivan:

Here is another memorandum.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

Sullivan:

And here is a memorandum from Commissioner

Helvering on the Ramspeck bill. We have got
25 hundred people who are under our service, and
we are taking another thousand next month. If

the President issues the order covering Internal

Revenue under the Ranspeck bill, we loose them
all.
H.M.Jr:

John, if this isn't important--

Sullivan:

It is.

H.M.Jr:

Is this a letter to the President?

Sullivan:

No, that is a memorandum to you from Mr. Helvering.

H.M.Jr:

But then, the fellow who controls it is the President.

Sullivan:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

Then fix it up for me in the form of a letter to
the President.

Sullivan:

A letter from you to the President?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, and if you will give it to Mrs. Klotz, she
will see that I get it within the hour, and I

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

will sign it, if you will write it.
All right, sir.

If you leave it that way, it is - you know - but

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- 19 -

Sullivan:

you get it to her, she will get it to me, and
Iif will
sign it.
All right, sir. The collections for the first

four months of this year are up two hundred sixtytwo million over last year, and of that amount,
a hundred and forty-seven million is in defense
taxes. The tentative figures for November indicate that we are up about a hundred and six million dollars just in the month of November. Of
course, we are getting practically no income
tax payments. This would seem to indicate that
our estimate of a billion dollars for the Revenue

Act of forty for a full year are going to be low.
There is a man out in Kansas who is a friend of
Commissioner Helvering's who was brought over

from Amsterdam. He is a foreign trade expert,

and he sent to the Commissioner a resume of the

South American situation, and I thought I might
turn that over to Dr. White.
H.M.Jr:

Good.

Sullivan:

You wanted to be acquainted with the steps that

were being taken to familiarize the public with

the necessity of filing returns.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Sullivan:

I don't suppose you have time to look them over,
but we have here all of the information we send
out to the newspapers and the radio programs,

the forms that are being distributed in the army
camps for those boys to file, and all that sort

of business. Now, in addition to that, there

were two different people who were writing

scripts for movie skits. Rogan, the collector
in California, got in touch with the movie people
and asked them If they would be willing to do a
skit, and they said they would, but they didn't
think it should be confined to California, it
should be used all over the country. They spoke

25

- 20 of using either Clark Gable or Spencer Tracy.
And I asked him to have the skits sent on here

H.M.Jr:

and let us look them over. If the skit isn't
any good, it doesn't make any difference who
plays it.
That is right.

Sullivan:

I assume your veto on Bert Lehr still holds?
(Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Foley:

The important thing, Mr. Secretary, is this meeting of the State Department on ships yesterday.

Herbert wasn't able to bo, but I went. I have
a memorandum here. There is a meeting over

there at ten o'clock this morning to work up a

memorandum for presentation to the President to

cover what can mobilize ships in our ports, what action
should be taken, and how, what distribution is
to be made of them between our Army and our Navy

and our own shipping lines, if we get them, and
what is to be done about new ship construction

facilities like Hog Island, for instance. Now,

the one thing at this meeting yesterday that was

attended by the Army and the Navy and the Maritime Commission and the State and the Treasury

was that there is a disposition on the part of

everybody to do something about the problem this

time. Hull made the rather naive suggestion that

each Department submit its problems and its policy
and he take them all over to the President, and

I said I thought that was unfair to the President

and would delay and confuse the situation, and
I thought that we ought to get a joint memorandum
and put down the conclusions of the group and
the recommendations, and he said that that
sounded fine and suggested a meeting this morn-

ing at ten o'clock, and he asked me if I would
come and--

H.M.Jr:

You ought to go.

26

- 21 Foley:

Yes. If I have got these other things, I won't
be able to stay over there all day; but, if it
is all right with you, I will take Huntington
on this ship control business and Cox, who was
with me yesterday, and leave them over there to
work on the memo.

M.M.Jr:

That is all right.

Foley:

I told them that--

H.M.Jr:

Who called this meeting?

Foley:

Hull. Land was there, and Land was very cooperative yesterday. He said that he understood
the President had in mind some kind of as statute
whereby we could take over these immbilized
ships belonging to the French and Danes and

Germans and Italians in our ports; and, of
course, we can hold them. Now, I pointed out
that we had a request for clearance for this

Sheherazade, a big tanker, down in New Orleans.

She is a French tanker and wants to clear for

martinique. Hull said we should hold her until
after this memorandum could be gotten up, and
he could clear it with the President.
Gaston:

That was a test case.

H.M.Jr:

I think you had better go on over and leave those

two boys behind. I think you had better go right

away.

Foley:

Yes. There isn't any objection from the Belgian
Ambassador to ask Bernie to come to lunch today,
and I told him I didn't think there would be any
objection as long as he didn't become a cookie
pusher. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

That is all right.
Do you have anything, Herbert?

27

- 22 Gaston:

Yes. Just one thing. Steve Early called me
yesterday afternoon and wanted to urge very

strongly that you agree to the request of the
Star to submit an article for your signature
on that special inaugural section of the Star.

He said that everybody else in the Cabinet was

going to do it, and it would break up the

scheme, which apparently Steve had agreed with

Ben McKelway to do.
Schwarz:

He already told Mr. Noyes we would.

Gaston:

Who had told him?

Schwarz:

We sent another letter.

Gaston:

Does that letter say that it would be done?

Schwarz:

Would not be done.

Gaston:

That letter is on my desk. It hasn't gone out.

White:

What is the subject matter, Herbert?

Gaston:

Oh, just general about the past and future of
the Treasury Department.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I have never done it.

Gaston:

I know you have never done anything of that sort.
I thought you ought to know about this direct
request from the White House. It is apparently

Steve's scheme worked up with Ben McKelway of the
Star.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I am the only Cabinet member that wouldn't
do anything on that famous book that they got out
four years ago.

Gaston:

Yes, the campaign book.

H.M.Jr:

I wouldn't do it, either.

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- 23 Gaston:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

There are a lot of things I don't do, Herbert.

Schwarz:

If you change your policy now, it will be hard
for us to turn down other things.

H.M.Jr:

I am sorry, I am not going to do it.

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Copy left with Bertha Jones
at 12:15 on 12/18/40, Mr. Young'
being at the British Purchasing Mission.

30

December 18, 1940
11:23 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Welles.

Summer

Welles:

Hello, Henry. How are you?

H.M.Jr:

I'm pretty well. How are you?

W:

All right, thanks. Struggling along.

Mr. Hull gave me this morning a letter to
him in regard to these Greek planes.

H.M.Jr:
W:

Yeah.

I must admit that I'm in a state of the

most helpless confusion because Butler the
night before last came in to see me to say

that he just received a telegram from his

Government informing him that General Metaxas

had advised the British Government that
he would be quite satisfied with the Defiance

H.M.Jr:
W:

planes in substitution for the P-40 planes.
Well, I'll be damned.
Now, we've got in touch with Butler in view
of the Greek Minister's statement to you
which he also made to us last night. Butler
is talking to - what's his name - Morris Wilson
is it and he is to let us know by noon today.
And I think also the best thing we'd better do,
Henry, is to telegraph to our Minister in
Athens and tell him to try and find out exactly
what the situation is because here we have two
completely diametrically opposed statements.

H.M.Jr:
W:

Let me just get this - I'm breathless. Metaxas
sent word to the British Embassy here
Metaxas informed the British Government and
the British Government informed the British
Embassy here and the latter informed me

personally the night of the 16th

-2H.M.Jr:

That it's O. K.
that they are glad to receive the

W:

Defiance planes instead of the P-40 and
yesterday the Greek Minister goes to you and

to us and says just the contrary.

H.M.Jr:

And now you're going to do some checking up

and I'11 sit tight and do nothing until I

hear from you further.
W:

H.M.Jr:

Now Butler is going to check with Morris
Wilson and we're going to instruct our Minister
in Athens to find out just exactly what the
situation 18.

Of course if they will take those Defiance,

it would relieve us all I think. It was a

very embarrassing situation.
W:

H.M.Jr:

Why it would solve the whole problem.

And I personally think that the English are
sincere about the Defiance, and that they
are carrying the whole burden of the fight in
the air. They really ought to know.

W:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And my people tell me that the Defiance 18 a
good plane.

W:

Yes. Well, I have no doubt it would be entirely
suitable for the operations there.

H.M.Jr:

That's right. Well, I'11 sit tight until

W:

That's right. Now, with regard to the other

I hear further from you.

question you asked; that is, the 10 planes
for Siam and the Philippines and the 6 completed
to Siam in California. My understanding is
that the Chinese do not want them and that
our Army does want them.

H.M.Jr:

Well, the word that I got yesterday was that
the Army has again changed its mind for about
the fifth time and does not want them.

31

32
3W:

(Laughs).

H.M.Jr:

That's why I wrote the letter.

W:

H.M.Jr:

Well,
as you know, the Chinese have said they
didn't want them.

Well, I am writing Hull a letter today

suggesting that he have a meeting in his
office Monday morning with whomever is in
his Department. We have here about 20 different
requests for planes, engines and parts from

about 20 different countries. I'm sending
the complete list over to him today.

W:

H.M.Jr:

Good.

I'm asking him to have Mr. Stimson and Knox
present because each one has his own ideas.

I think there are about 20 different requests

W:

H.M.Jr:

There must be at least that.

and the ones - the list will be ready
America - I do think we ought to at least tell
to be sent over - because the ones for South
them yes or no.

W:

H.M.Jr:

I think it is of the utmost importance that
we tell them yes to the fullest extent possible.
But this thing has gotten 80 that it's kicked
around and kicked around and we do the best
we can but each day we hear something else,

and I think out of the meeting - if State,

War and Navy would say, well, on this question
we'11 meet once every two weeks, or we 11
meet once a week or something. You know.

W:

That's a very useful suggestion. It would

H.M.Jr:

Yeah, because these people have a grievance,

solve a lot of difficulties.

just like this one - you say the Army says
they do or don't and I hear something

different. It's gotten to a point where they
should say yes or no.

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W:

-

Exactly. Well, I think that's a very helpful
suggestion. I think it ought to be done
just that way.

H.M.Jr:

Six planes to Siam are just as much trouble

as a thousand planes.
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Exactly.

Well, thanks for the call.
All right, Henry. Then I'11 let you know as
soon as we get some verification.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

W:

Thanks.

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December 18, 1940
12:16 p.m.
H.M.Jr:
Guy

Hello.

Vaughn:

Hello, Mr. Morgenthau.

H.M.Jr:

Talking.

V:

This is Guy Vaughn.

H.M.Jr:

How are you?

V:

This Studebaker building engines for the
British and for the United States Government
has got some complications in it as far as
our own future business is concerned, and
we would like very much to discuss it with
you at your convenience.

H.M.Jr:
V:

Right.

If you are coming up around Christmas or
if you would be in Washington on Thursday either way, whatever your convenience is
between now and then except that I am definitely
tied up here on some very important things

that must be cleared immediately 80 that I

couldn't come to New York this week - Washington
this week.

H.M.Jr:

How pressing is this thing?

V:

Sir?

H.M.Jr:

How pressing is the thing that you're talking
about?

V:

Well, it's got to be done before a meeting

and it's in the interest of national defense
to get things cleared and under way.

.....

H.M.Jr:

Well, I mean

V:

It's just a delay in our own production
schedule; that is, propeller particularly and

that, you know, is being done last and therefore
will be a bottleneck and I've been working

35

-2night and day on it and I could come down
there and get right back I suppose this week.
Be better for you.
H.M.Jr:

V:

Well, the trouble 18 I'm tied up solid now
until tomorrow and I go up to a dinner in
New York tomorrow night late. Hello?
Yes. I hear you.

H.M.Jr:

I'11 be in New York Friday morning.

V:

You'll be in New York Friday morning.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

V:

Well, will you have a moment?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

V:

H.M.Jr:

Well, now, you just set your own time and
place and we'll be there.

Well, I tell you what you can do. I'm

staying with my father at 1133 Fifth Avenue.

V:

1133 Fifth Avenue.

H.M.Jr:

And he lives just above Willkie.
Yes, I know just about where it is - about
98th - 97th Street.
And if you were there at 9:00
Yeah, 93rd.
o'clock I could see you Friday morning.
9:00 a.m. Friday morning. Well, that's

V:

H.M.Jr:
V:

perfect. It's just a matter of policy. I'm

not going to bother you with a lot of details
but after all you want to protect us in a fair

and equitable manner and we don' want any
more than we have to have to exist.
H.M.Jr:
V:

That's all right.
All right, sir. Well, that's fine and thank
you very much indeed.

H.M.Jr:

Good-bye.

36
December 10, 1940

My dear Mr. President:

For your confidential information,
I am inclosing herewith a report from the
British showing the member of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,

September 87 and November 89.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) E

The President,
The White House.

- 415

37
December 10, 1940

My dear Mr. President:

For your confidential information,
I an inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the member of airplanes
and pilote they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,

The President,
The White House.

By

38

December 10, 1940

My dear Mr. President:

For your confidential information,
I an inclosing herewith a report from the
British showing the member of airplanes

and pilote they had - hand as of May 10,
September 87 and November so.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed)

H

The President,
The White House.

by

39

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I as inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November so.

Youre sincerely,
(Signed)

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Nevy.

By Messages 4 is

40

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I am inclosing herewith a report from the
British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Navy.

By Messenger

41
December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I as inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the member of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed)

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Navy.

By /

42

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Knudsens

For your confidential information,
I an inclosing herewith a report from the
British showing the number of airplanes

and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. William S. Knudsen,
Advisory Commission to the
Council of National Defence,
Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. C.

By / 4's

43

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Knudsens

For your confidential information,
I am inclosing herewith a report from the
British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,

Mr. William S. Kneison,
Advisory Commission to the
Council of National Defense,
Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. C.

By Member

44

December 18, 1940

Ky dear Mr. Kandeens

For your confidential information,
I as inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,

September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) E

Mr. William S. Kandoom,

Advisory Commission to Council of National Defence,
Federal Reserve Building.

Washington, D. C.

4

/

45

December 10, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I as inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

,

Yours sincerely,
R
Jr.

The Honorable

The Secretary of State.

By - 415

46

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I as inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the member of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,

The Honorable

The Secretary of State.

1

By Messages

47
December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I as inclosing herewi th a report from the

British showing the number of airplanes
and pilote they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 89.

Yours sincerely,

The Henorable

The Secretary of State.

By /

48

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I am inclosing herewith a report from the
British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,
B

The Honorable

The Secretary of Var.

4 15

49

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I an inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the member of airplanes
and pilote they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,

The Renerable

The Secretary of Mar.

By /

50
December 10, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

For your confidential information,
I am inclosing herewith a report from the

British showing the number of airplanes
and pilots they had on hand as of May 10,
September 27 and November 29.

Yours sincerely,
(Suggest)

The Honorable

The secretary of war.

By /

5

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
onig is filed 12/14/40
date

SECRET AND MOST CONFIDENTIAL

the

Sept. 27.

May 10.
Stocks

3.735

3.209.

(Hurricane, Spitfires,

Nov. 29

4.185

Wellington, Blenheim,
Whitley & Hampden)

N.B. Planes shipped to other theatres of
war by Britain were included in September figures, but not in November.
(These numbered 374 in period from May
to November.) Consequently improvement
between September and November is greater

than appears at first glance.
Pilots

3.101

4.149

4.398

N.B. Pilot wastage last quarter about 400 per
month, allowing for half wounded returning
to duty.

C.R.O.

1.874

1.882

(Awaiting repairs
and inspection)

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

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December 18, 1940
3:30 p.m.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:
H.M.Jr:

Secretary Hull coming on.
Thank you. Hello.

Cordell
Hull:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Hello, Cordell.

H:

That's going on?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I sent you over a letter which ought
to get to you in a few minutes and I've asked
whether you would call a meeting at your
office Monday morning with myself, Stimson

and Knox.
H:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I'd like to lay before you -and I sent it
in the letter - there are about 20 different
countries that have requests in for airplanes
and we're not giving them any answer and I
think we ought to say either yes or no to these
people.

H:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I sent you over a list of the requests
from the various countries for airplanes,
engines and parts up to date.

H:

Well, now, we'll fix up anything that we can
get - I think I told you that Stimson and
Knox have been coming in here every Tuesday
morning for an hour to go over the points of

our situation together and I guess - it will
suit me 100% Monday.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I just sent the letter over and I sent
the list of the various requests and there are
300 Curtiss P-40's to be divided up. You see?

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-2H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

Well, now suppose I call them - shall I
I'd much rather you'd have your office do it.

All right. I'll tell them that you want us
to meet together here and discuss that
situation.

H.M.Jr:

And I'm laying on the table 300 Curtiss P-40's

which can be gotten and which can be divided
up.

H:

Now this is Monday morning.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

H:

All right, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Now, what time would suit you?

H:

9:30?

H.M.Jr:

9:30 Monday.

H:

I'll let you know if there's any trouble

about their being present.
H.M.Jr:

But I thought that if we could do this once
in a while and then - like those damn 10
planes in the Philippines - instead of
having it knock around for two months if
we could say yes or no. You know.

H:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And Summer called me on that Greek thing.

Have you heard the last one on that?

H:

On which?

H.M.Jr:

On the Greek? The last thing on the Greeks?

H:

I turned it over to Summer and told him that
he had failed to communicate with you as I
asked him to and he overlooked it I knew.

54

-3 H.M.Jr:

Well, he called me up this morning.

H:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:
H:

H.M.Jr:

You know I sent to him a memorandum last
night.

You see he got in that picture originally
and that's the reason I have to keep him in
it.
Well, he called me up this morning and tells
planes that England wants to give him and
the Greek Minister last night told me that

me that General Metaxas says he wants the

H:

they didn't want it.
Well, the Assistant Greek Minister is telling
somebody else here something else.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I told Sumner I'd sit tight now and do
nothing until I heard from him further.

H:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Because he says he wants to carry it.

H:

All right, Henry.

H.M.Jr:
H:

H.M.Jr:

So he and I are together since this morning.
Well, fine.

If I don't hear from you again I'll be at

your office at 9:30 on Monday.
H:

H.M.Jr:

Now, if the Secretary can't come is it all
right for the Chief of Operations to come
or do you want to put it off?

No, I think if it's possible, I think we
ought to go to town on it.

H:

With

H.M.Jr:

Well, with whoever is here.

55

H:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Whoever is here.

H:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

56

December 18, 1940
4:30 p.m.

RE BRITISH PURCHASING PROGRAM

Present:

Mr. Young

Sir Frederick Phillips

Mr. Bell

Mr. Cochran
H.M.Jr:

Sent for Mayor LaGuardia of New York, and I
am trying to squeeze you in. When he comes,

I will have to stop.

I was just reading this thing here.
Young:

My note?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Young:

I must say that everyone and their pup today

H.M.Jr:

Well, do I gather from this that you want to

Phillips:

That is my belief, yes.

Bell:

That comes ahead of the ordnance.

Phillips:

I think it comes ahead of the ordnance, yes.
Whether it comes ahead of the airplanes, I

have been on my neck about the ship program.

do the ship program first, is that it?

don't know.

Young:

Certainly, Sir Frederick, ships and planes come
before ordnance.

(Mr. Cochran entered the conference.)

57

-2H.M.Jr:

Do you (Phillips) want to read this (Young's

memorandum) and see if this expresses the way
you feel?

Phillips:

Yes. Yes. I did put the first question to

Mr. Young, as to the status of these new orders
under Program 1 and Program 2. You know the

President's press statement drew a distinction
between the future orders and existing orders,
and the question I put to Mr. Young is, are

these Program 1 and Program 2 orders which you

have given us a clearance for future orders or
are they existing orders, and I thought the answer
was, "They are future orders," and I thought he
rather agreed with me. We haven't got it in
black and white.

Young:

They are future orders today, in that no contracts
have been signed for anything on either of those

programs.
H.M.Jr:

Is that the first question?

Phillips:

The first question, yes.

Bell:

Future orders but existing programs. The program

has already been put before this Government.

Phillips:

Oh yes, that is perfectly true.

Bell:

The orders haven't been entered under those
programs, is that what you mean?

Phillips:

I don't think there is any doubt. They are
future orders. We haven't got it in black and white.

H.M.Jr:

There is Program 1 and 2, existing orders or
future orders. That is question number one.

Phillips:

Yes, number two follows from this table. We

submitted to you a program showing an expenditure,

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-31343 before the end of February on orders already

placed, Program 1 and Program 2.
H.M.Jr:

On orders already placed?

Phillips:

Yes, plus Program 1 and Program 2 and our
outgoings as we estimate them by the end of

February are 1,343 million dollars, which
exceeds our immediate resources --

Young:

One billion.

Phillips:

By 800 million dollars and I want to know what
is the thought on that subject.

H.M.Jr:

Let me have that again. If you placed - would
this be correct? If you placed orders for one

and two, plus what you already have on our books --

Phillips:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

If orders one and two were placed, plus existing
orders - what is the date?

Phillips:

By the end of February.

H.M.Jr:

Would you say by March 1st?

Phillips:

Yes. We estimate cost at 1,343 million, of which
capital, 287 - 1,343 is the figure and our
immediate resources are about 570.

H.M.Jr:

How much

Phillips:

570, and as you know, sir, Gifford is selling
at about a million dollars a day. He pushed
it right up to 6 million dollars a week.

Bell:

It is just about doubled.

Phillips:

That is as far as it has gone.

59

-4H.M.Jr:

Now, what you want to know is, where do you
go from here.

Phillips:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I can't tell you that until I ask the

Phillips:

That is what I felt sure your answer would be.

H.V.Jr:

Well, this boils down this whole thing, doesn't

Phillips:

I think that is the lot, excent that I again

President.

it?

mentioned to Mr. Young the question of the end

of the war. We are running our gold right down
during this period. Then the question of what

gold we have at the end of the war becomes much
more important to my people. We want to know

what will we do if that gold reserve comes right
down, what chance of building it up again before
the end of the war to a minimum figure. The
minimum figure, I mentioned before, is 600

million dollars.

H.M.Jr:

The other thing, I am going to put down three,

Phillips:

We would like to have it. I have got my people

H.V.Jr:

Oh, you don't have it yet?

Phillips:

I can get it tonight.
see Phallops dated
No, if I can get it tomorrow morning. We will 11-19
have Cabinet tomorrow. If I could have it

H.M.Jr:

the order of priority which you select.
working on that at this moment.

before two tomorrow. You give me the order of

priority that you would like.
Phillips:

Very well.

60

-5Young:

In what detail?

H.M.Jr:

Oh,
not too much. Talk about ships, planes,
and ordnance.

Young:

Those three?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. I tell you what you can do. You could
have the word ships at the top on one sheet, and

then give me all the details. Ships and the
total cost up on top, you see. Then if anybody
in Cabinet says, "Well, what kind of ships,

and so forth, well, I have it there if I want it.

Then another sheet, Ordnance, then as much detail

as you can. But you will have to number which
comes first, ships, ordnance, or planes.
Phillips:
H.M.Jr:

All right, we will do that.
Is that practical?

Phillips:

Yes, I think we can give you what you want all
right.

H.M.Jr:

If I say they want ships first, Frank Knox may

say, "What kind of ships, what speed, what tonnage,"

and so forth. Well, I will have some of that
information.

Phillips:

Well, what I am giving you, sir, is only Program 1

and Program 2. Would you like me to go on and
deal with Program 3? That would take me some time.

H.M.Jr:

No, you would sink this ship (indicating self)
if you did.

Phillips:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

But on the one and two, if you could give me the
order in which you want it, with just a heading,
"Ships", and then this, "Planes", and so forth,
so if they ask me --

61

-6Phillips:

Yes.

Young:

Of course, those two programs do not include
other expenditures which may be made for products
outside of ordnance and ships.

Phillips:

They do include steel and iron.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I think that - it isn't plain to me -

if you get it between now and two we can
squeeze another time in. But you have got what
you want right now.

Phillips:

Yes, you have given me the answers I expected
to get.

H.M.Jr:

You are luckier than I am.

referre d to at

off,

4:30 meeting

CONFIDENTIAL

December 18, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: Conference with Sir Frederick Phillips
11:45 A.M. at his request.

Sir Frederick Phillips asked me to come over to his of-

fice inassuch as he said he had some questions to ask concern-

ing the President's statement on financing for Britain. I

attach herewith a table which he made up showing estimated
monthly distribution of payments against existing commitments
plus commitments to be made under Programs 1 and 2.

Sir Frederick has two things on his mind: first, he is

very saxious to find out how to tackle the problem of placing
orders as the British Purchasing Commission feels that contracts must be made immediately for new capacity to build
ships and planes. In this connection he pointed out that the
B Program was included in Program No. 1. and that, if it is
a question as to allocation of available resources. London
feels that the money should 6 to ships and planes rather than

to ordnance. I think Sir Frederick is right on this point,

and as the B Program is included in the over-all picture the
British should have the right to say what should get priority.
The second problem on Sir Frederick's mind is the quee-

tion of drawing down the gold reserve to the vanishing point.
He feels very strongly that this can only be done in the case
of a going concern, such as the United Kingdom, provided it

was understood that the United Kingdom would be permitted to
accumulate a comparable reserve for exchange stablisation, etc.,
to be available after the MAR.

Sir Frederick is anxious to talk with you about these
matters, and he said that he and his colleagues would give as
100 per sent cooperation in getting information or in laying

all their assets out on the table at any time.

Print

62

(Initialed) P.Y.

63

fee
CONFIDENTIAL

December 18, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: Conference with Sir Frederick Phillips
11:45 A.M. at his request.

Sir Frederick Phillips asked me to come over to his of-

fice inasmuch as he said he had some questions to ask concern-

ing the President's statement on financing for Britain. I

attach herewith a table which he made up showing estimated
monthly distribution of payments against existing commitments
plus commitments to be made under Programs 1 and 2.

Sir Frederick has two things on his mind: first, he is

very anxious to find out how to tackle the problem of placing
orders as the British Purchasing Commission feels that contracts must be made immediately for new capacity to build
ships and planes. In this connection he pointed out that the
B Program was included in Program No. 1, and that, if it is
a question as to allocation of available resources, London
feels that the money should go to ships and planes rather than

to ordnance. I think Sir Frederick is right on this point,

and as the B Program is included in the over-all picture the
British should have the right to say what should get priority.
The second problem on Sir Frederick's mind is the question of drawing down the gold reserve to the vanishing point.
He feels very strongly that this can only be done in the case
of a going concern, such as the United Kingdom, provided it

was understood that the United Kingdom would be permitted to
accumulate a comparable reserve for exchange stablisation, etc.,

to be available after the war.

Sir Frederick is anxious to talk with you about these
matters, and he said that he and his colleagues would give us

100 per cent cooperation in getting information or in laying
all their assets out on the table at any time.

Pu

see 18th

Is program It 2
existing adero a
future a dero ?

64

R. If nders 162

there placed plus
existing aden they

by
march
1st
we
estimate cost
at 1.343 million

immediate res ourseen

#570 million
3.

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CONFIDENTIAL

December 18, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: Conference with Sir Frederick Phillips,
4:30 P.M.

Sir Frederick submitted a table. attached herewith,

showing estimated monthly distributional payments against
existing commitments plus commitments to be made under

Programs 1 and 2.

Sir Frederick stated that there were two principal
problems on his mind:

(1) Are Programs 1 and 2 to be regarded as existing orders or future orders. (No contracts
have yet been signed for any of the items included under Programs 1 and 2).

(2) If orders covering Programs 1 and 2 were placed

immediately and the necessary payments added to
balances due on orders already placed, $1,343,000,000
would have to be paid from December 1, 1940, to

March 1, 1941. To offset this $1,343,000.00
Sir Frederick said that he had immediate resources
of $570,000,000.00, leaving a deficit of $773,000,000.

Dy.

Estimated Monthly Distribution of British Purchasing Mission
Payments in the United States against Existing Commitments and
Programmes 1 & 2, as per Schedule entitled "Summary of British Programmes"

g)

69

handed by the Secretary of the Treasury to Sir Frederick Phillips,
December 17, 1940.

Millions of U.S. Dollars
Total
Total

Dec. - Feb.

After

Dec.
1940

Jan.

Feb.

1941

1941

147

123

426

858

1

14

5

1940 1941

Feb.
1941

Balances due on Orders already placed
Product

1284

156

Capital

17

10

Product

2062

86

197

187

470

1592

Capital

699

35

89

139

263

456

Product

1225

63

59

38

160

1065

Capital

10

10

-

-

10

-

Product

4571

305

403

548

1056

5515

Capital

726

55

92

140

287

459

5297

360

495

488

1545

3954

5

Programme No. 1

Programme No. 2

Total

TOTAL

Note: The monthly distribution of payments shown above reflects a partial revision
of the rate of expenditure shown in the November 30th estimates. A complete
revision as of December 51st will be available early in January.
B.P.C. - WH
December 17, 1940

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December 18, 1940
CONFIDENTIAL

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

The following is a summary of comments by General Marshall
and General Brett regarding Air Commodore Slessor's notes on

United States air production:

1. Air Commodore Slessor's notes were apparently based

on incomplete information or written with the
ultimate aim of effecting a change in United States

productive facilities.

2. The speed and armament of United States bombers and

fighters is considered for the most part as good as

or superior to their British equivalents. The
specifications are the result of joint Army-Navy-

British technical consultation based on recent combat
experience.

3. It is agreed that new productive capacity should be

reserved in large measure for advanced-design planes
using new 2000 h.p. in-line motors. such designs to
be also those which can be soonest translated into
United States production.

4. Any general increase in capacity such as envisioned
by Commodore Slessor (to 4500 per month) would in-

volve a restudy of delivery objectives.

General Marshall expresses his concern as to the effect of
this type of criticism on the aircraft manufacturers and on the
consummation of our own airplane program.

P4

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MOST SECRET

THE U. S. AIR PRODUCTION PROGRAMME NOTE BY AIR COMMODORE SLESSOR

1.

The following note conveys my impressions of the

main problems in connection with the programme of production

in the United States, attasing from a very brief visit to this
country.

There appear to me to be two main directions in which

the programme of aircraft production in the U. S. A. falls
short of requirements of modern warfare, from the point of
view both of Great Britain and the United States - namely, in
the fighting efficiency of the aircraft due for production
and in their numbers. It must be remembered that the contri-

bution of U. S. industry to the air war will not make itself
felt to a really important degree until the second half of
1941 and early 1942.

Fighting Quality
2.

The bombers now being produced in U. S. A., while

they have good speed and range and a fair bomb load, do not

incorporate the important lessons that the R. A. F. have learnt
from the fighting of last summer, notably in the direction
of defensive armament. The types coming on to production
early in 1941, such as the Consolidated B.24 and Martin B.26
show a marked improvement in this direction. And, although

no U. S. bomber at present in sight compares for fighting
efficiency with our own heavy bombers now in production such as the Halifax and Stirling - the American bombers will

be quite adequate for night operations and will constitute
a most valuable contribution when they appear in any substan-

tial numbers, though we should have liked a considerably larger
proportion of the heavy four-engined types.
3.

As regards fighters, however, it is difficult to avoid

the conclusion that United States types that will be available
in any numbers by the summer of 1942 are for the most part

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unlikely to be of sufficiently high fighting quality to meet
really effectively the requirements of the air war by that date.
If there is one lesson which sticks out more than others from
the lessons of last summer, it is the enormous importance of

fire-power in the fighter. It is hardly too much to say that
it was the 8-gun fighter that saved England in August and
September.

This is not to say that it was only the 8 guns which

did the trick. It was also (apart from the fighting value and
training of the crews ) the superior performance and quality
of the British types - Hurricanes and Spitfires. We must

keep that superiority - we cannot afford inferior quality
aircraft as well as inferior numbers. Any production man knows
that to introduce a new type into existing capacity means a

terrible drop in production of the existing types before the new
one comes in in any numbers. The enemy has now at his disposal

the potential - the floor space, machine tools and raw materials of all the conquered territories, notably of France; and always
in the background is the possibility of the Germans, with their
drive and efficiency developing the vast potential of Russia.
4.

It is, therefore, of great importance that at least those

U. S. fighter types for which new capacity is to be created in
this country should be a really substantial advance on British
types now in production and at least equal in fighting quality
to the new British type, the Typhoon, now going into production

in the U. K. I do not claim to be a technical expert, but I do
not feel that they do come up to this standard. For instance
the Curtiss 87, which starts coming in in substantial numbers
in the spring, may attain about the same speed as the Spitfire

III (on paper - actually it probably won't be as fast), but it
only mounts four .50 machine guns as against the eight .303

of the Spitfire III. The firm say that, with the best will in
the world, they cannot promise to install six guns till the

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151st aeroplane; this may mean that we shall still have 4-gun
fighters being delivered in England in January 1942. As compared to the Typhoon, the Curtiss 87 is very much slower, and
the Typhoon has twelve .303 or six .20 m.m. cannon guns against

the four .50 guns of the Curtiss.
5.

There are other more advanced fighters now under devel-

opment. The Bell Aerocobra, for instance, of which we have
several hundred on order, may have a rather higher performance

than the Spitfire though less than the Typhoon, and the firm
have proposed the installment ultimately of a powerful armament amounting to five 20 m.m. and two .50 guns. It has, however, certain doubtful features such as a very high wheel loading, and its performance when the improved armament is installed
must be to some extent a matter of conjecture.
Another fighter type now under development in the United

States, namely, the Republic P.47.B, will have a useful armament of eight .50 calibre guns and a good top speed at high

altitude (25,000 feet). On the other hand I understand that

it's performance so far is only on paper and it will not fly
until January or February 1941, whereas the Typhoon has been

flying for some months already. In general, except at its
specialized height of 25,000 feet 7 it seems certain to be
inferior in speed, performance and operational qualities to
the Typhoon, and the Technical officers of the British Air
Commission have not thought it desirable to go in for it.
Both the Aerocobra and the Republic P.47 incorporate certain
untried experimental features, which may or may not be suc-

cessful in larger scale production, whereas the Typhoon is a
normal development of a tried type, The Hurricane.
6.
Reference should be made to the question of gun cali-

bres. It is true that the guns in the initial issue of
Typhoons are .303 as against the .50 calibre machine guns in

the U. S. types. But the British view, which has received
some confirmation in recent trials in England, is that the

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.50 calibre, while greatly superior in hitting power to the
.303 - is not likely to be fully effective against the degree
of armour which must be anticipated in enemy aircraft by 1942.

For this reason the British intend to mount in the Typhoon
six 20 mm. cannon guns as they become available -- a type

of gun against which they believe it to be quite impossible

to armour. Indeed, British policy is ultimately to turn over
to cannon guns in all fighters, including existing types.
7. It seems to me therefore the best chance of getting in
substantial numbers by June 1942 a really marked advance in

the spheres both of performance and armament, is for U. S.

industry to produce the Typhoon - a type of which, incidentally,

I have little doubt we could satisfy the U. S. Air Corps that
they could make very valuable use in emergency. The argu-

ments in favour of producing American as against British types

in U. S. A. are well known; but it is hard to believe that
the difficulties (anyway as far as fighters are concerned)
are insurmountable. The production of the airframe should be

relatively easy; the main difficulty is going to be to make
the engine, the 2000 h.p. Napier Sabre. Both of course

involve the creation of new capacity, and both will involve

difficulties in the direction of machine tools. But it is
hard to believe that the vast engineering resources and skill

available in the U. S. A., if really vigorously directed along
the right channels, could not overcome the difficulties and
produce Typhoons by the spring of 1942.
Numbers.

8. This can only be dealt with on more general terms.
Very briefly, the situation is this. The "3000 a month" scheme
has,for the present, faded out of the picture as a practical
proposition in the reasonably near future. The present scheme
involves 26,000 aircraft for the Empire by June 1942 - the
14,000 on existing orders and the new 12,000 - which works
out at an average of about 1300 a month. But this programme

is only being achieved by continued use of existing capacity

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and part use of new capacity already being created under the

U. S. Defence programme. The joint U. S. - British capacity
which will probably be in existence by June 1942 on present
plans, would be of the order of 2500 combat planes a month,
of which only 10%, or 250 a month would be heavy bombers.

This planned figure is probably little, if any, more than the
present capacity of Germany alone. And - in view of the possibility of really serious and widespread interference with
production in England by bombing - it seems impossible to sit
back and accept a situation in which the British and U. 8.
Air Forces are backed by so inadequate a production. It
will no doubt be suggested that shortage of machine tools pre-

cludes the possibility of creating any further capacity in
the near future. But there seems some reason to hope that the
machine tool situation will show an improvement in the near
future. And in any event experience in the U.K. has shown

that, where one is really up against it, it is surprising
what can be done by going out into the highways and hedges and

making use of all sorts of hidden capacity, normally in use for
other purposes and, if the best is not available, making do
with the second best, such as the plant and tools of the
automobile industry. It would be an admission of defeat to
accept that the production of aircraft engines and the necessary accessories such as guns, radio, etc., cannot be greatly
increased in scope and accelerated in tempo. But it cannot
be done without far more drastic measures than are at present
in force.

9. As a practical suggestion (which has the authority of
Bir Henry Self) the following seems the programme at which we
should aim. We had originally assumed that by June 1942 we
should see a production on joint account of 3250 combat planes
a month (as against the 2500 mentioned above) with a further
capacity for 1250 a month, to be started early in 1941 and

to be in full production by the and of 1942.

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Our aim therefore should be first to create immediately
capacity for at least an additional 250 a month of an improved
type of heavy bomber - a class which are of vital importance
to the defeat of Germany and in which there is a serious
deficiency on present programmes.

This should be followed as soon as possible after the
first stage is under way (by which combat plane capacity will
have been increased as above to 2750 per month) by the creation

on joint account of capacity for the production of new types
to bring the total of United States production up to 4500
a month.

November 27th, 1940.

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THE U. S. AIR PRODUCTION PROGRAMME

Second Note by Air Commodore Slessor.

1.

As a result of visits to certain aircraft factories and to

Wright Field, and of further discussions with U. S. Air Corps officers,
I think it may be desirable to amplify the views expressed in my note on
the U. S. Air production programme dated 27 November 1940.
2.

There are two main desiderata in the field of aircraft

production in the United States, from the point of view both of the
British Air Force and of the U. S. Air Services who have their own
great programme of expansion. These are (a) the need to produce as
large a number as possible of adequate combat types to meet the requirenents of expansion and of wastage in the campaign of 1941, and

(b) the need to produce, in as large quantities as possible,
aircraft of improved performance and fire power that will be better than,
or at least as good as, the greatly improved types that we must anticipate
will form a high proportion of the enemy air forces in the campaign of 1942.
3.

Unfortunately these desiderata are to some extent conflicting.

If we were to attempt to introduce the now 1942 types into existing
capacity, the result could only be that we should not get adequate numbers

of existing types during 1941. The suggestion in my previous note,
however, was that we should not mortgage all the new capacity to be created

by extending the production of existing types, but should reserve at least
some of it for the production of new types which are a really substantial
advance on those now in production.
4.

The previous note dealt mainly with fighters. If it were

possible to apply the foregoing principle to the production of bombers it
would obviously be desirable to do so. There is, however, no suggestion

that we should attempt to produce the Halifax or Stirling in U.S.A., I do
not believe it would be possible to get into substantial production on these
types before an U. S. type bomber could be produced of quality equal to
either.

5.

As regards fighters, I should make it clear that my previous

note implied no criticism of U. S. fighter types as 1941 fighters. What I
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was, and still am, concerned about is whether there is anything now in

sight which will be of sufficiently high all-round fighting quality speed, climb, manoeuvrability, and volume and hitting power of the
armament - to be 100% effective against the bombers of greatly improved
speed, arnament and armour that it is only prudent to assume will be met

in the spring and summer of 1942. And, if we are to have fighters of
that quality in sufficient numbers by that time, we should be creating
the capacity for them now.

I do not suggest that all our fighters must or can be of this
high quality - obviously they cannot be; the Hurricane now is markedly
in performance

inferior/ to the Spitfire, yet it is still shooting down a great many Huns;
and we ourselves in England shall still be in large scale production of
Spitfires in 1942. But at least some of the new capacity now to be created

in this country should be allocated to the production of a really first
class 1942 fighter.
6.

The problem is what type to select for this purpose. It seens

likely that the only way of achieving with certainty the required firepower and performance will be to make use of much higher powered engines

than any now in quantity production. In my previous note I suggested that
the best solution would be to produce the Typhoon with the 2000 h.p.

Napier Sabre engine in this country. The crux of this is the production
of the Sabre engine of which the drawings are now in the hands of the U. S.

technical experts. I think the Typhoon still holds the field as the best
1942 fighter now in production. The only possible alternatives would seen

to be to build a fighter round either the 1650 h.p. Rolls Griffon (which
might be introduced as a follow-on for the Merlin at Packard's) or one of
the big radial engines coming into production in this country, such as the
Wright 3350 or the Pratt and Whitney 2800. I cannot help doubting whether

it will be possible to achieve adequate overall performance in a fighter

with one of the big radials; the British technical officers have not taken
a favourable view of the only fighter at present projected using the P and
If 2800, namely the Republic P.47. It may be possible to introduce such
improvements into the Bell Airacobra and Allison engine as will give that
type the necessary performance as well as gun-power as an interim type; and
in my note annexed to Sir Henry Self's letter of December 14th I have
recommended taking a chance on that.

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-3 7.

To sum up, the U. S. type fighters now coming into production

such as the Curtiss Hawk 87, the North American 73, and the Bell Airacobra

with existing armament will be very formidable fighters for 1941. For
the fighting season of 1942 we should endeavour to produce in the United

States, from new capacity to be created, as many fighters as possible with
1942 fighting qualities - which means at least 400 m.p.h. at operational
height and multiple cannon.

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December 10. 1940

Dear General Harshall:

thank you for sending - your compente
and these of General Bross segardiag sir
Committee Sleever's notes on the United States
ALE Protection program.
Sincerely.
(Signed) H.

Secretary of the Treasury

General George e. Marchall,

Shief of Staff.

We Department.

Weshington 2. e.

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December 10. 1040

Dear General Barshall:

Shank you for seeding - your and those of General Dress regarding Air
Committee Sleever's notes on the United States
ALE Production program.

Stecorely.
(Signed) H. Morgantban, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury

General George 6. Hereball,

and of Staff.

- Department.
Backlington, s.a.

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WAR DEPARTMENT
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF

acken &

WASHINGTON

summary

December 11, 1940.

MEMORANDUM for the Secretary of the Treasury:
My dear Mr. Morgenthau:

I have had Commodore Slessor's notes on the United
States Air Production Program checked over by General Brett and

his officers. The following are their comments:

A careful study of these notes indicates clearly

that they are based upon incomplete investigation and
information; that Commodore Slessor had not at the date
of these notes consulted with or conferred with the Air
Corps engineers charged with development and production;

that the information as furnished in his notes is contrary

to much of the information furnished by other members of
the British Purchasing Commission such as Mr. Fairey,
Commodore Mansell and Commodore Baker; that he has not

personally gone into the details of any of our later models

nor has he examined those models, which are available at the
various factories.

Also, reading between the lines, it appears that Commodore
Slessor's ultimate objectives are:

a. Production in America of a British design long range

bomber (the Sterling)

b. Production in America of a new British design pursuit
airplane.

c. Increased productive capacity of the American aircraft industry (i.e. from 2500 airplanes a month, as now
set up, to 4500 airplanes a month by 1943)
General Brett submitted the following detailed comments:
a. LONG RANGE BOMBERS.

Fire Power - It is stated that: "No U.S.bomber - compares
for fighting efficiency with our own heavy bombers now in production."
Comment - The fire power of the "Sterling" and "Halifax"

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British bombers consists of eight .30 caliber guns mounted in
three turrets. The fire power of the B-24 (Consolidated) and the
B-17 (Boeing) consists of six to seven .50 caliber and one to two

.30 caliber, or the equivalent of twelve to thirteen .30 caliber

guns. The overall combat efficiency of the American bomber is
considered superior to the English.
Commodore Mansell, in meetings with our technical

specialists, has stressed the desirability of the British changing
from .30's to .50's. By yardstick methods, we consider one .50

equal to two .30's in a bomber. Prototype of two models of 5300
mile bomber provides for fourteen .50's and two .20's. These are
scheduled to be ready for production in early 1942.
Speed - The production articles of both the B-17 (Boeing)

and the B-24 (Consolidated) are at least the equal of the British
types now in production. The advantages due to turbine supercharger installations of the American types have been stressed by
technical and tactical representatives of the British Purchasing

Commission.

New Types, Heavy Bombers -The placing in production of

the British bombers now in production would require at least a year,
and probably two years, in view of the differences in American
technique. The Army now has under construction service test orders
of a heavy bomber with greater range, with greater fire power, with
greater speed, greater bomb capacity, than either of the British
bombers discussed.

b. FIGHTERS (PURSUIT)

In regard to comparison of the British "Hurricane" and
"Spitfire" with the modernized pursuit types now in production (i.e.,
the Bell B-39, and Republic P-47, and the Curtiss P-40D), the follow-

ing comments are pertinent:

The Bell P-39 is equipped with one 37 - cannon, two
.50 caliber synchronized guns in the nose, and four .30 caliber wing
guns as compared with the Spitfire's eight .30 caliber gun.
The P-47B (Republic) has provision for eight .50 caliber
wing guns.

The Curtiss P-40D has a normal equipment of four .50

caliber wing guns; provision is also made for substituting two 20 mm.
cannons for two .50's.

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The Curtiss P-40B (a stop-gap airplane) is equipped with two
.50 caliber guns and four .30 caliber wing guns.

The gun installations and armanent details of all these airplanes were coordinated with representatives of the British Commission,
based on combat experience available last August and September.
New Types - We concur with Commodore Slessor's statement that:

"It is of great importance that at least those U.S.fighter types for which
new capacity is to be created in this country should be really a substantial advance in British types now in production (see paragraph 4,
page 2). It is believed that a 2000 horsepower liquid-cooled engine
is essential to meet this requirement. The Pratt & Whitney Aircraft
Company discontinued the development of the Army engines of this type
after they were well under way. The Navy has an experimental 2000 horsepower liquid-cooled Lycoming engine. A conference between the Army,
Navy and British, with the view of determining whether the Navy Lycoming
engine or the British Sabre engine should be put into production for
this purpose is highly desirable in view of the Pratt and Whitney change
in experimental policy. The British engine appears to be in a more advanced state of development. Provided the engine can be made available,
the production of either the Typhoon type or the American design could
be effected.

PRODUCTION.

Commodore Slessor's suggestion that the production be increased to

4500 airplanes per month is a re-statement of the request of July 24 for
additional productive capacity. The means for obtaining this increased
production appears to be practical. The present production capacity as now
set up will reach 2500 airplanes per month, neglecting Government factories
now authorised. Tentative British orders for 12,000 airplanes, now being
placed, are sufficient for the first increment of increased productive
capacity, suggested by Air Commédore Slessor, provided that both the Army

and British place additional orders for at least 24,000 airplanes, for delivery in 1943, at an early date.
RESTUDY OF PRESENT PROGRAMS.

The suggestions made by Air Commodore Slessor for increasing pro-

duction requires a restudy of the delivery objectives established July 23
and 24 for the period June 30, 1940 to April 1, 1942. Consideration should
be given at this time to the following:
(1) The release of all airplanes to the British over and above

the actual requirements to equip 54 groups.

(2) The matter of finance, facilities.

(3) The matter of placing orders with proper consideration to the

ability of the industry to absorb the additional load

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Personally, I an inclined to believe that there is an ulterior
motive behind this statement, having in view a complete rearrangement of production and procurement procedure. I am deeply concerned

over the slow rate, the dwindling rate of plane deliveries to the

Aray; but I an becoming even more concerned over the possible effects

of the present campaign in certain portions of the press, particularly
if supported by statements such as this from Commodore Slessor.

It is natural that Slessor should be dominated by the desire
to help the British situation, however superficial his knowledge of
conditions in this country may be at the moment. My interest must
center on our situation, and I am worried over the disturbing effect
this sort of thing has on the airplane manufacturer and other agencies
involved.

Our problem is hard enough as it is - in time of peace with
an unrestricted press, with the varied interests of Latin America,
China, the British Empire, and our own vast expansion - but it is
becoming increasingly difficult and confused under the various
pressures, some very powerful, and each of which has a special

purpose in mind. Incidentally, the recent publicity campaign directed against American types of planes in England as a reflection on
the general efficiency of our program, is really an outrageous piece
of business. The British Government was given what they pled for,
in some cases to our serious embarrassment in training; now we are

being dained in the press for that action.

Please note General Brett's statement on the subject, which
is attached.

Chief of Staff.

SPECIMEN
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WAR DEPARTMENT

Public Relations Branch
Tel. - RE 6700
Brs. 3438 and 3425

IMMEDIATE

RELEASE

DATA ON AIRPLANES RELEASED FOR EXPORT

Major General Geo. H. Brett, Acting Chief of Air Corps, made the

following comments today relative to the release of Army airplanes for export
and the consequent efficiency of such airplanes now in use by the British.
"Prior to March, 1940, it was the policy of the War and Navy Departments to release for foreign sale only such equipment as was classed as
obsolescent. Under this policy many airplanes, only some of which could be
regarded as United States Army types, were purchased by and delivered to the

British and French Governments in the full knowledge that they were not the
latest types.

"At the urgent request of Foreign Purchasing Commissions, the War
Department released obsolete equipment (the A-17 planes) which were used

only for pilot training. Ninety-three of these airplanes were turned back
to the manufacturer by the Army in exchange for new models at the insistence

of the Anglo-French officials and after the Army Air Corps had made it clear
to them that these. airplanes were completely obsolete for fighting purposes.
"The DB-7 Douglas bomber was initially ordered by the French and

taken over by the British in considerable quantities. This combat airplane
was not found acceptable when offered to the Air Corps by the Douglas Company

in a competition held early in the year 1939.
"The Martin-167 bomber, for which large orders were placed by the
French and taken over later by the English, was likewise found to be un-

acceptable by the Army in a competition held in April, 1939.
"The Curtiss P-36, which was purchased in considerable numbers by

France, was determined by the Air Corps, in competitions held in 1939, to be
obsolescent.

"On March 25, 1940, the policy was liberalized to permit the release
of modern equipment for foreign sale provided an improved model of the released type was available for procurement by the Army Air Corps. On that

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date, which was before any severe air fighting had occurred between German and

British or French air forces, the first model of one of our latest pursuit
planes, the P-40, was in production. It mounted four machine guns. but had
no armor nor leakproof fuel tanks. Some of these early models were purchased

by the British and it is understood that after the addition of two machine
guns and leakproof tanks and limited improvised armor, they were sent to
England. Whether any of these planes have been used in combat is unknown.

"When the P-40 was released to Britain, although a modern plane, it
was regarded as obsolescent by the War Department which was placing in production an improved model known as the P-40D which has greatly increased fire

power, leakproof tanks, and protective armor. These planes are now being
manufactured for both the United States and Great Britain.
"The above statements should clarify in the minds of the American

public the fact that the Mar Department has not only developed but is procuring equipment which, from all information that can be secured by our observers
in Europe, is equal or superior to that now employed abroad.
"Close relationship has existed between the technical members of the
British Purchasing Commission and our War Department. Every advantage has

been taken of the lessons learned during the War and the incorporation of new
features of design and equipment has been made as rapidly as possible in all
the equipment. non under production. But the development and production of airplanes is a lengthy process and cannot be interrupted for each new improvement
if necessary numbers are to be obtained."

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OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF
WASHINGTON

0

Dec.16,1940.

The attached was inadvertently omitted

as Enclosure to letter signed by the Chief
of Staff dated Dec.11, 1940 to the Secretary
of the Treasury, which was delivered about
1 P.M., today, by special messenger.

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December 10, 1940.

MEMORANDUM FOR - The Chief of Staff.

SUBJECT - Comments of Air Commodore Slessor.

1. Herewith attached are comments on notes submitted to the
Secretary of the Treasury by Air Commodore Slessor.

2. A very careful study of these notes indicates clearly that
a.

They are based upon incomplete investigation and information.

b.

To the knowledge of the undersigned Air Commodore Slessor

had not at the date of these notes consulted with or
conferred with the Air Corps engineers in charge of development and production.

s.

The information as furnished in his notes is contrary to

much of the information furnished by other members of the
British Purchasing Commission such as Mr. Fairey, Commodore
Mansell and Commodore Baker.

₫.

To the knowledge of the undersigned he has not personally
gone into the detail of any of our later models nor has he
examined those models which are available at the various
factories.

2. The comments herewith attached are a statement of fact and are
based upon the best possible information available from England. Further
study and further factual date can be furnished upon request.

GEO. H. BREET,

Incl:
Comments.

Major General, U.S.A.,
The Assistant.

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COMMENTS ON NOTES SUBMITTED TO THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY BY
AIR COMMODORE SLESSOR ON THE UNITED STATES AIR PRODUCTION PROGRAM.

12-10-40.

1. Reading between the lines, it appears that Air Commodore Slessor's
ultimate objectives area

Production, in America, of a Britter design long-range bomber
(the Sterling).
a.

B. Production, in America, of a REE British design pursuit airplane.
e. Increased productive capacity of the American aircraft industry

(1.0., from 2500 airplanes a month, as now set up, to 4500 airplanes a month
by 1943).

2. The notes appear to be based upon incomplete investigation and in
formation, therefore are in part misleading and contrary to information

furnished by other members of the British Purchasing Commission. Air Commodore
Sleasor had not visited Wright Field nor consulted with Air Corps engineers.
Cognisance has not been taken of improvements that have been made as a result

of British experience in combat airplanes now on order or of our experimental

program. In particular, it is desired to invite attention to the followings
s.

LONG RANGE BONRERS.

Fire Power - It is stated thats "No U.S. bomber - - compares
for fighting efficiency with our om heavy bombers now in production".
Comment - The fire power of the "Starling" and #Halifex® British
bombers consists of eight .30 caliber guns mounted is three turrets. The
fire power of the B-26 (Consolidated) and the B-17 (Boeing) consists of six
to seven .50 caliber and one to two .30 caliber, OF the equivalent of twelve

to thirteen .30 caliber g The overall combat efficiency of the American

bomber is considered superior to the English.

Commodare Mansell, in nookings with our technical specialists,

has stressed the desirability of the British changing from .30's to .50's. my
yardstick methods, we consider one .50 equal to two .30's in a bember. Proto
type of two models of 5300 mile bember provides for fourteen .50's and two
.20's. These are scheduled to be ready for production in early 1942.
Speed - The production articles of both the B-17 (Soeing) and the
B-24 (Consolidated) are at loast the equal of the British types now in production.
The advantages dan to turbine expercharges installations of the American types

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have been stressed by technical and tactical representatives of the British
Purchasing Commission.

New Types, Heavy Bombers - The placing in production of the
British bombers now in production would require at least a year, and probably
two years, in view of the differences in American technique. TheAray now
has under construction service test orders of a heavy bomber with greater
range, with greater fire power, with greater speed, greater bomb capacity,
than either of the British bombers discussed.
b. FIGHTERS (PURSUIT).

In regard to comparison of the British "Hurricane" and "Spitfire"
with the modernised American pursuit types now in production (i.e., the Bell P-39,
the Republic P-47, and the Curties P-40D), the following comments are pertinents

The Bell P-39 is equipped with one 37 - cannon, two .50 caliber
synchronised guns in the nose, and four .30 caliber wing guns as compared with

the Spitfire's eight .30 caliber gun.

The P-678 (Republic) has provision for eight .50 caliber wing guns.
The Curtiss P-40D has a normal equipment of four .50 caliber wing guns,
provision is also made for substituting two 20 am. cannons for two .50's.

The Curties P-40B (a stop-gap airplane) is equipped with two .50 caliber guns and four .30 caliber wing guns.
The gun installations and armement details of all these airplanes

were coordinated with representatives of the British Commission, based on combat
experience available last August and September.
New Types - We concur with Commodore Slessor's statement thats *It is

of great importance that at least those U.S. fighter types for which new capacity
is to be created in this country should be really a substantial advance in British
types now in production (see paragraph 4, page 2). It is believed that .
2000 horsepower liquid-cooled engine is essential to meet this requirement.
The Pratt & Whitney Aircraft Company discontinued the development of the Army
engines of this type after they were well under way. The Havy has as experimental
2000 horsepower liquid-cooled Lycoming engine. A conference between the Army,
Navy and British, with the view of determining whether the Navy Lycoming engine

or the British Sabre engine should be put into production for this purpose is
highly desirable in view of the Pratt and Whitney change in experimental policy.
The British engine appears to be in a more advanced state of development. Provided the engine can be made available, the production of either the Typhoon
type or the American design could be effected.

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3. PRODUCTION.

Connodore Sleever's suggestion that the production be increased
to 4500 airplanes per month is a restatement of the request of July 24 for
additional productive capacity. The means for obtaining this increased
production appears to be practical. The present productive capacity as
now set up will reach 2500 airplanes per month, nogleeting Government

factories new authorised. Tentative British orders for 12,000 airplanes,
now being placed, are sufficient for the first increment of increased prodoctive capacity, suggested by Air Commodere Blessor, provided that both

the Aray and British place additional orders for at least 24,000 airplanes,
for delivery is 1943, at en early date.
4.

RESPECT OF PRESENT PROGRAMS.

The suggestions made by Air Commodore Sleever for increasing pro-

duction requires a zastatz of the delivery objectives established July 23
and 24 for the period June 30, 1940 to April 1, 1942. Consideration should
be given at this time to the followings

(1) The release of all airplanes to the British over and above
the actual requirements to equip 54 groups.

(2) The matter of finance, facilities.
(3) The matter of placing orders with proper consideration to the
ability of the industry to abourb the additional load.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

December 18th, 1940
Personal and
Secret

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy

of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Work Butter

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D. C.

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Telegram from London dated December 17th.

Naval.

The French torpedo-boat "Branlebas" manned

by Royal Navy, which sailed on December 13th from Dartmouth as escort to a West bound channel convoy, has
failed to answer any signals and must be presumed lost.

The 8. 8. "Orari" has arrived safely in port.

2. gilitary.
Italian prisoners taken by the Greeks now number
Their morale is extremely low as
more than 10,000.

indicated by their abandonment of equipment and criticism
of their officers and Fascist leaders who are considered
responsible for the unpopular war with Greece.
3.
Royal Air Force.

Night of December 16th/17th. A total of 120
heavy and 8 medium bombers carried out a very successful

attack against the industrial targets at Mannheim. All
returned safely except two.
4.

German Air Force.

Night of December 16th/17th. Only about 30

enemy aircraft were operating. The majority visited the
North Midlands and Manchester where eleven persons were

killed and 13 seriously injured; damage was confined to
private property.

5. Aiggraft casualties in operations over and from
British Isles.
Enemy: Nil.

British: two bombers missing.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

Personal and Secret
December 18th, 1940.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy

of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Marik Bather

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D. C.

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Telegram from London dated December 16th.
Nevel.

British naval forces have been continuing
to support operations in the constal area between sidi
Barrani and Bardia.
2.
From Air reconnaissances on the 14th and 15th,

the following is the disposition of the Italian naval
units. At Taranto: 2 damaged battleships, 1 6-inch

cruiser, 1 destroyer. One Littoria class battleship,
one 8-inch cruiser, 4 destroyers and 2 large merchant

vessels entering the harbour. At Naples: 2 (possibly 3)

battleships, 4 or 5 cruisem 15 or 16 destroyers, 11
merchant vessels. At Tripoli: 4 destroyers, 3 torpedo

boats, At Messina: 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 4 or 5
submarines.

3. Germany. Air reconnaissances December 14th

shows "Lutsow" and one old battleship at Kiel, "Tirpits"
at Wilhelmshaven, and "Bismarck" at Hamburg alongside
Bloha and Voss yard.

4. Shipping Casualties, A Banish ship (2300 tons)
in south bound convey. has been sunk by E-boat off the
East Coast.

5. Ship mentioned in the second sentence of peragraph 2 of the summary of the 15th has now sunk.

6. A convoy of 21 ships has arrived from Canada;
none were lost on the passage.
7.

Royal Air Force, Night of 15th/16th. 59

heavy bombers were sent to attack military objectives in
Berlin and 10 others to Freakfurt. In both areas many

large fires and explosions caused. In addition#8
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heavy bombers were minelaying. Three aircraft
are missing 2 crashed crew being injured in one case,
and one came down in the sea crew saved.
8.

Night of 15th/16th.

About 125 enemy

aircraft were operating of which 20 were mine-laying.

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SITUATION REPORT

No. 273

M.I.D., W.D.
December 18, 1940.
12:00 M.

This military situation report is issued by the Military
Intelligence Division, General Staff. In view of the occasional
inclusion of political information and of opinion it is classified
as Restricted.

I.

Western Theater of War.

1. Air Force Operations.
Unfavorable weather prevailed.
The German Air Force executed no offensive operations.

The R.A.F. carried out small night raids against Mannheim and the Channel invasion ports.

II.

Greek Theater of War.

The heaviest fighting appears to be in the Tepeleni-Klisura area, where the Greeks have been able to make little headway.

Apparently, Italian resistance is stiffening in the Porto Palermo

area and along the coast road where recently the Greeks have made

their farthest advances. Air activity was limited by weather.
III. Mediterranean and African Theaters of War.

In extreme western Libya all Italian strongholds except
Bardia, where the Italians are resisting strongly, have been captured by the British. The British mechanized forces have apparently penetrated west of Bardia to the main Bardia-Tobruk road.

The Italians claim to have increased their air activity
over western Egypt. There were widespread minor raids by both
sides throughout these theaters, including an apparently effective Italian attack on Port Sudan, on the Red Sea.

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95

CONFIDENTIAL
Paraphrase of Code Radiogram Received

at the War Department 10:20 Aam. Deeomber 18, 1940.

London, filed 15:15, December 18, 1940.
EXTRACT

In a confidential conversation the Assistant Quartermaster General in charge of the supply of food and petroleum
products in the War Office advised Colonel Demond, CaMeC., special

observer in this office, that it was his conclusion that enemy
bombing has caused severe lesses of food, to include the destruct

tion in Liverpool of rations valued at $80,000,000. Recent
enery attacks have destroyed two oil eanning factories, where

gasoline and lubricants are sealed in tin containers for use

by Army tactical units. These plants had a total capacity of
2,400,000 gallons a day and their destruction handicape motor

transport foress overseas, whose divisions have a daily requirement of 100 tens. The Army is now contemplating reducing the
present meat ration of 10 ounees to 78.
LEE

Distributions
Secretary of War
State Department

Aest. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff

War Plane Division

Office of Naval Intelligence

CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL
Paraphrase of Code Radiogram

Received at the War Department
at 10:20 A.M., December 18, 1940

96

London, filed 15:15, December 18, 1940.
1. On Tuesday, December 17, planos of the Goastal Command

carried out attacks on a fastory and two airtrence in the Calais
area and on a French port. No planes of the Bember Command operated

that day. The proceding night British bembers made a concentrated

attack on an important industrial city in the Rhine Valley. It was
reported to be very successful.
2. Daylight operations of the German Air Force on December
17, were limited to coastal recommissance flights, and no German

planes fiew inland that night.
3. During the night of December 16-16, a total of 77
planes operated against enery targets. of those 10 attacked Frankfort
and 59 Berlin, while eight heavy bembers laid mines. of these, three
planes are missing and two crashed on landing. The same night 185

emery planes were plotted, of which 20 laid mines.
4. Station navel vessels are new based on Messina, Maples,
and Terente.

5. British aircraft in Egypt bombed Tobruk and other Italian
treep concentrations. The 2nd Armoured Division participated in most

of the recent action in this theater. British bembers based in Greeso
attacked the harber of Durasse, Albania. The Italian priseners captured in this theater have an extremely low morale, as indicated by

their criticism of Faseist leaders and their - officers and by their
abandoment of equipment. The Italian Centure Amered Division in

CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL

97

this theater is equipped with about 220 tanks, probably between two

and five tens; but it apparently did not operate as an armored division. Some troops in this Division fought as dismounted Infantry
and one regiment of Beranglieri was detached from the Division early
in the operations for use elsewhere.

6. A 2,300 ten Danish ship was sunk off the east coast by
an E-boat. A convoy from Canada of 21 ships has just arrived with.

out loss in Britain.
7. The German attack on Sheffield during the night of December 12-13, did considerable damage to the business district but the

larger mmitions plants suffered but little.
8. The general apprehension continues of an enemy invasion

of the British Isles before the New Year, but in spite of this no
significant change in the disposition of enemy shipping has as yet been
observed.
LEE

Distribution:
Military Aide to the President
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Asst. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff -2

War Plans Division

Office of Naval Intelligence
AC-2

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CONFIDENTIAL

98

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

DATE December 18, 1940

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

Mr. Klaus

FBI reports:

November 18. FBI is monitoring Czechoslovakia funds in San Francisco.

November 27. FBI is watching Italian bank accounts in the Los Angeles area
through confidential informants employed in key positions in various banks; special
emphasis is being placed on the account of a sister of Cesare Grinaldi, reported
as having been a former bodyguard of Mussolini. FBI is also monitoring Japanese
bank accounts in the same area.

December 2. A report that an officer of the Corn Exchange National Bank in
Philadelphia states that the German Consul has not been paying any bill by check
since January 1940; he has even been paying his hotel bill in cash.
December 13. The Dutch Consulate General in New York City has learned from
the Dutch Embassy in London that the Nazis in Holland have confiscated an unknown
unber of genuine Dutch passports which are being issued to Nazi espionage agents,
particularly to German-Jewish agents who are posing as Dutch refugees.

December 14. The German and Italian Ministers in Guatemala are said to be buying up United States bank notes, preferably of high denomination.
December 14. A strike was called December 11 on the Standard Fruit Company

boats at New Orleans; the boats are of Honduran registry and the strike is said

to be led by Communist elements in the American Communications Association and
the National Maritime Union (Joe Curran's organization).

December 14. A large number of American securities have been transferred

from Switzerland to the National Bank of Haiti, Port-au-Prince, Haiti, for the
account of a new company to be organized in Haiti; the Haitian bank officials
are suspicious and the FBI is investigating further.

81

99
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

TO

FROM

DATE December 18, 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Klaus

State Department reports:

December 10. From the Embassy in Vichy: The Germans vetoed a French pro-

posed law requiring the registration of all foreign securities held in France;
the
ground in
of bearer
the refusal
is presumed
operations
securities
secret. to be the Germans' desire to keep their
ser

100
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

TO

DATE December 18, 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Klaus

FROM

FBI reports:

December 9. The Italian Air Attache and the Italian Ambassador on December
11 cashed two Banco di Napoli Trust Company Treasurer's checks amounting to
(9,735.35, receiving 8 $1,000 bills and the remainder in currency of small denomination. FBI has the numbers of 5 of the $1,000 bills.
December 12. The German Embassy purchased a $7,500 draft payable to the
German Consulate General in New York City in 5 $1,000 and 5 $500 bills which
are being traced.

December 17. The outstanding $10,000 notes traced to the German Consulate
General, New York, have been reduced to $30,000; 10 notes have just appeared at
J. P. Morgan and Company in payment for Hamburg-American Line bond redemption
obligations.

December 17. The Banco de Mexico is reported to be buying $12,000,000 in
gold in New York City, having thus far transferred $9,000,000 to its account
at the Federal Reserve in payment for the gold.

M

101
DEC 18 1940

by dear Mr. President:

My interest in forestalling potential inflationary developments that

would react unfavorably on the economy of the country, as well as our
whole fiscal program, and in guarding against possible shortages of do
fense materials, leads me to express my serious concern over the growing
congestion is the steel industry.

No expert knowledge is necessary to see that the steel industry will
be unable to handle the volume of orders that lies ahead. In addition to
the huge British orders that are now in prospect, the bulk of our defense
orders are still to be placed with the steel mills, and the ordinary nondefense donand will underbittely be enlarged as the national income rises.

As you will note on the shart which I as attaching, there is very little
capacity available in any steel district for a further increase in output.
A system of priorities, applied except as a temporary expedient,
would seriously happer the program for achieving full employment of labor
and resources.

I have not been greatly encouraged by recent press announcements of
expension plans by certain steel companies. In an attached table I have

listed all of the proposed increases is steel inget capacity that I inco

about, plus the new capacity (electric furnase) completed this year OF
under construction. Taken together. this amounts to a prospective in
crease is ingot capacity of only 2.7 per cent, the bulk of which apparently
will not be completed for 12 to 18 months.

You will recall the large steel expension that was found necessary

during the World War, when the inget capacity was increased about one-third
between 1914 and 1918. In view of the increasingly urgent need for more
steel, 10 seems to me that an immediate major expansion Progress for the

steel industry is clearly called for.

Faithfully yours,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.
the President,
The White Issue.

Copies to:

Mr. Stettinius
Mr. Henderson

IA AWB FILE COPY

7 110

102

New steel capacity completed, enter construction
OF authorised since January 1, 1940

Net tens

Bethlehen Steel Corporation

8. S. steel Corporation
American Selling MEEE

890,000
400,000
50,000

Electric furnesse
(american Irea and Steel Institute

estimate of capacity of 21 electric furnasse - is operation,

OF expected to be in production
early in 1941)

OCH: law 12-17-40

FILE COPY

900.000
2,200,000

M

STEEL OUTPUT AND RATED CAPACITY
Weekly Tonnage

TONS

Millions

U.S.Total

TONS

Millions

Capacity

14

1.2

1.2

Output

1.0

8

6

4

1.0

2

2

oNJFM

0
o

D

o

M

1941

1939

PRINCIPAL PRODUCING DISTRICTS
1939

1940

1939

1941

TONS

1940

1941

TOMS

Thousands

TONS

Thousands
Chicago

360 320

360

Pittsburgh

Thousands

Capacity

Capacity

320

320

320 280

200

280

280 240

240

240

240 200

200

200

200

140

160

160

120

120

120

120

80

so

so

80

40

40

Output

ww

Output
140

40

40

o

o

Youngstown
0
o

160

Philadelphia

160

200

200

160

140

120 120

120

80

40

so

so

40

40

120

mm

so

40

o

o

o

Cleveland

www.
Buffalo

so

so

so

40

40

o

so

Birmingham
40

40

Wheeling

Cincinnati
40

Detroit
.

1939

1940

1941

1939

1940

1941

"Board - Iron Age date
C-344

Prepared by: Mr. Turner
Mr. Murphy
Mr. Haas

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

104

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 18, 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Mergenthau
Mr. Haat

Subject: Recent Developments in the High-grade Security Markets;
The Market Value of Tax Exemption
SUMMARY

(1) New record high prices were attained during the first
half of December by long-term Treasury, corporate and
municipal bonds (Charts I, II and III).
(2) The new National Defense Treasury notes are now sell-

ing to yield about 12 basis points more than it 18
estimated that a five-year note identical with outstanding notes would yield (Chart IV). Part of this
differential is due to uncertainty as to the future
"rights" value of the new notes, and part -- probably
the larger part -- 18 due to the difference in tax
exemption between the Defense notes and outstanding

Treasury notes.

(3) Estimates of the market value ascribed to the taxexemption privilege vary widely and are subject to a
large error of estimate. The differential between
the yields of taxable corporate bonds and tax-exempt
municipal bonds has shown no definite relationship
to the maximum rate of the Federal individual income

tax since the initiation of that tax in 1913
(Chart V). The largest spread in favor of municipals

occurred before the institution of the Federal income
tax.

In Treasury testimony before Congressional Committees

about a year and a half ago, the differential between
the yields of long-term, high-grade bonds attributable
to "full" tax exemption was estimated at between 1/4

of 1 percent and 1/2 of 1 percent, and that attri-

butable to "partial" tax exemption at between .05 percent and .15 percent. Current observation would show

larger differentials, but it is questionable whether

such larger figures measure the rate at which a substantial volume of new borrowing could be accomplished
through the issuance of tax-exempt securities.

105
Secretary Morgenthau - 2

I. Recent Movements in the High-grade
Security Markets
Prices of long- and intermediate -term Treasury bonds

advanced to new all-time highs during the first half of
December, but have receded slightly during the first two
days of the current week (Charts I and II). Prices of

Treasury
notes show little net change since the beginning
of
the month.
High-grade corporate and municipal bond prices also

reached new highs during the first half of the month

(Charts II
yesterday.

and III). Corporates declined in price slightly

II. Reception of the New National
Defense Treasury Notes

The new 3/4 percent, 5-year National Defense Treasury
notes opened on a when-issued basis on the day after the
closing of subscription books at 100-16/32 bid, and have

since then suffered a net decline of about 1/32. Chart IV
shows as of yesterday's close the yields of all outstanding
Treasury notes selling on a positive yield basis, including
the new National Defense notes, and, for comparison, the
yield of the partially tax-exempt 2-1/2 percent Treasury
bonds which mature on the same date 8.8 the new notes.

Because the new note is fully subject to Federal income

taxes and there is some question with respect to its "rights"
value, its yield cannot be compared directly with the yields
of outstanding Treasury notes. A yield of .65 percent for
the new note is, however, about 12 basis points higher than
the estimated yield basis on which a 5-year Treasury note

identical in all respects with outstanding issues would
sell. This spread represents the combined market effect of
the increased taxability and the diminished prospective

rights value.

It is extremely difficult to determine how much of this
rately. The impairment of rights value is, of course, due
spread is the result of each of these factors taken sepa-

to the provision of the First Revenue Act of 1940 requiring
that the national defense obligations therein authorized

106
Secretary Morgenthau - 3

be paid from specified tax revenues. This presumptive
absence of rights value would be of dominating importance

1f taken at its face value, for it is estimated that pro-

spective rights values result in a diminution of as much
as 20 basis points in the yield on outstanding five-year

notes. It is clear, however, that only a fraction of this

maximum valuation of the rights privilege on outstanding
notes can be allowed for its impairment in the present
case. Five years is a long time, and it doubtless appears
to the market that chances are excellent that by the time

the notes just issued mature they will be on all fours
with other outstanding issues as far as the rights privilege is concerned. The possible impairment of the privi-

lege in the present case has occasioned considerable market
discussion, however, and probably accounts for some portion
of the existing differential in yield between the new note
and outstanding issues.

It seems, however, that the larger portion of the differential should be ascribed to the complete taxability of the
new notes for the Federal income tax. In this connection

it is interesting to observe that the yield of the 2-1/2 percent Treasury bonds, due December 15, 1945, is 11 basis

points lower than that of the new notes, and only 1 basis
point above the estimated basis for a five-year note of the
traditional type. As far as individuals are concerned,
these bonds are exempt from only the 4 percent normal tax;
but for corporations their exemption is equivalent, under
present laws, to that of the wholly exempt Treasury notes.
This would suggest that the additional value placed by the
market on "full" as compared with "partial" tax exemption

is very small in the case of securities with a five-year
maturity.

III. Estimated Market Value of Tax Exemption
Estimates of the market value of the tax-exemption

privilege -- 1.e., the yield differentials attributable to
differences in taxability - vary widely. Chart V and the

attached table compare the yields of fully taxable highgrade corporate bonds with those of fully tax-exempt highgrade municipal bonds annually since 1900. There is also
shown (in red on the chart) the maximum rate of the Federal
individual income tax annually since its initiation in 1913.
It will be noted that the differential between corporate and
municipal bond yields has varied widely, and that on occasion the yields of the municipals have been higher than those

107
Secretary Morgenthau - 4

of the corporates. It is also interesting to note that

the maximum differential in favor of the municipals 00curred before the introduction of the Federal income tax.
There does not seem to be any definite relationship between

the differential and the maximum rate of this tax. It

would appear, therefore, that tax exemption has never been

the decisive factor in determining municipal bond yields,
that the value attached by the market to the tax-exemption
privilege has probably varied widely from time to time,

and
that it is subject to a wide margin of error of estimate.

It would appear, however, that the market does attach
some value to tax exemption. This has already been indicated in the previous discussion of the new Defense notes.
A substantial market valuation of tax exemption is also
indicated by a comparison of the yields of Federal with
high-grade State and municipal bonds. The State of New
York, for example, offered early this month an issue of
serial bonds of which the 20-year maturity was priced to
yield 1.35 percent and the 25-year maturity was priced to
yield 1.45 percent. On the day these bonds were offered,
the partially tax-exempt Treasury bonds of 1960-65 sold to

yield 2.10 percent to earliest call date (20 years) and
2.20 percent to final maturity (25 years). This is a yield
differential of 75 basis points in favor of the New York
State bonds. While a portion of this may be explained away
on various grounds, a substantial portion must be due to
the superior tax-exemption qualities of the State as COM-

pared with the Federal bonds.

Although it is thus clear that tax exemption has a
real value in the market, the measurement of this value is
extremely complex. Thus the differential between the
yields of high-grade corporate and municipal bonds shown
on Chart V is currently about 67 basis points. The use
of other sets of indices would give substantially different

results, however. This is due principally to the difficulty of maintaining a uniform standard of quality for the
inclusion of issues in the indices, and to the difficulty
presented by the large number of corporate bonds now selling above their call prices. It is necessary, therefore,
in the final analysis to resort to comparisons of individual issues.

108
Secretary Morgenthau - 5

It was estimated in the testimony of the Treasury DeTaxation of Governmental Securities and Salaries in the

partment before the Special Senate Committee on the

spring of 1939 that the differential due to "full" tax
exemption was between 1/4 of 1 percent and 1/2 of 1 percent,
and that the differential due to "partial" tax exemption

was between .05 percent and .15 percent. These estimates
were reaffirmed in the testimony before the House Ways and
Means Committee in June 1939. They referred in each case
to long-term, high-grade securities. Both the total value
of tax exemption and the difference between the value of
"full" and "partial" tax exemption is much less for shorter
maturities.
These estimates were based upon observations of the

market differentials made before the cessation of further

issuance of tax-exempt securities was generally considered
a strong probability. We are now making a detailed study

of the value of the differential at the present time, but
it is clear that, at least in the case of the "full" taxexemption privilege, it is substantially higher now than

it was a year and a half -- or even three months -- ago.
It may well be, however, that the earlier measurements
embodied in the testimony before the Congressional Committees in 1939 are more representative of the differentials at which substantial amounts of new borrowing through
the issuance of tax-exempt securities could be accomplished

than those prevailing today, which may reflect in large part
an expected scarcity value for the outstanding supply of
tax-exempt securities.

Attachments

109
Comparison of the Differential in Yield

between High-Grade Corporate and Municipal Bonds
and the Maximum Rate of the Federal Individual Income Tax, 1900-40
:

:
:

:

:
:

:
$

4.05
3.90

3.12
3.13

3.86

.77

1902

.66

1903
1904

4.07
4.03

3.20
3.38
3.45

1905
1906
1906

3.89

3.40
3.57

.49
.42
.41

.69

3.86

1908

4.22

3.93

1909

4.06
4.16
4.17
4.21

3.78

.29
.26

3.97

.19

3.98
4.02
4.22

.19

1910
1911

1912

-

.58

1907

income tax

: individual

-

0.93

3.99
4.27

Federal

:

tial

Maximum

:

Differen-

1901

1900

-

-

.19
.20

1914

4.42
4.46

1915

4.64

1916
1917

4.49
4.79

4.20

.50

67

1918

5.20

4.50

.70

1919

5.29

4.46

77

.83

1920

5-72
5.57

4.98

.81

5.09
4.23
4.25

.62
.73

1913

1921

4.12
4.16
3.94

Z

.48

4.98
4.78
4.67

4.20

.58

4.09

.58

4.08

.43

3.98

.33

1928

4.51
4.31
4.34

1929

4.50

.29
.33
.57

1930

4-55

1931

4.58

4.01

1932

5.01
4.49
4.00

4.65
4.71

.48

4.03
3.41

.19

1940

3.60
3.24
3.26
3.19
3.01
2.85

1940

2.71

1934

195
1936
1937
1938
1939

73

46

3/

.36

-.22
-.03

1933

15

.48

1923
1924

4.05
4.27
4.07

7

.55

4.85

1927

7

.34

1922

1925
1926

V

Municipal
bonds 2

:

Year

High-grade
corporate
bonds 1

3.07

.17

3.10
2.91

.28

2.76
2.54

.31

2.04

.67

.16

.25
81

fields from 1900 through 1929 are those reported by Standard Statistics Co.
for 15 high-grade railroad bonds. fields from 1930 through 1940 are those
reported by Moody's Investors Service for high-grade corporate (Ana) bonds.
Fields are as reported by Standard Statistics Co.
Standard Statistics Co. index of yields of high-grade railroad bonds
4-39
percent for 1930, and the differential based upon this index, 0.32 was
percent.

WittDecember
Average11,
for1940.
first 11 months.

Chart I

110

CHANGES IN THE PRICES OF U.S. SECURITIES
Points Plotted Represent the Difference from April 6. 1940 Price of Bach Maturity Class
1940
1941

1940

or

MAY

POINTS

set

MAR

1.14

30

MAY

POINTS

POINTS
(NET

(NET CHANGE)

(NET CHARGE)

DECORES

NOVEMBER

OCTOBER

Saturday Quotations

Daily
+21

+21

44

+25

+2)

+26

+24
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.2

+2

of

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*11

3

NOTES

1-3 YM

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OVER 15 Yes.
+1

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CALL

-

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TO CALL

NOTES

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-3

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-15 Yrs.
TO

CALL

NOTES

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+

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JAN.

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1940

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OCTOBER

26

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Office of the Secretary of the Treasury

JULY

MAY

23

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14

21

28

9

MAY

the

7

111

111

NOVEMBER

DECEMBER

1940

F-153-8-4

111

Chart II

COMPARATIVE YIELDS OF AVERAGE OF ALL LONG TERM US TREASURY

AND AVERAGE OF HIGH GRADE CORPORATE BONDS
1939

1940

1940
JULY

NOV

DEC

OCT.

DEC

Inverted Scale

JAN

PER CENT

PER CENT
PER CENT

WEEKLY. Saturday Quotations

2.0
2.0

20

2.2

Long Term

2.2

Treasury

2.2

2.4

2.4
2.4

Long Term Treasury

14 years more to sontest cell deta)

2.6

2.6

2.4

2.8
2.8

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2.8

3.0
3.0
3.0

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3.2
3.2

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3.4
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3.6
34

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DEB
CENT

PER
CENT
PER

coo
1.00
1.00
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Spread
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Chart III
COMPARATIVE YIELDS OF AVERAGE OF ALL LONG TERM US TREASURY

AND Dow-JONES AVERAGE OF MUNICIPAL BONDS

Invert 1.4 " " 1." 1.4 " ...
Yields Based on Saturday Quotations

1939

1940

JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE JULY AUG SEPT OCT NOV DEC JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE JULY AUG SEPT OCT NOV" DEC

PER CENT

2.0

Long Term Treasury"

1.9

Inverted Scale
PER CENT

2.0

(10

2.2

2.2

2.4

2.4

2.6

2.6

2.0

2.6

3.0

3.0

Twenty 20-Year Municipal Bonds
3.2

3.2

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8.4

PER

PER

CENT

CENT

60

60

40

40

Differential
20

20

o THE

JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE

to

AUG. SEPT OCT NOV DEC JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUNE JULY

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JULY

1939

1940

AUG. SEPT OCT. NOV. DEC

"Break - line indicates change - composition of Long Form Treasury average.
Office al the Secretary d the Treatury

- disease - -

F-134-A

Chart IV

113

YIELD OF TREASURY NOTES AND

218 TREASURY BOND OF DEC. 15, 1945
Based on Closing Bid Prices, Dec. 17, 1940

1941

1942

1945

1944

1943

PERCENT

PERCENT

.7
.7

New NOTE

.6
.6

BOND

.5
.5

x

x

.3
.3

.2
.2

.1

0

0

1941

-/--

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury

1942

1943

1944

1945

F - 196

114
Chart V

COMPARISON OF THE DIFFERENTIAL IN YIELD BETWEEN HIGH-GRADE CORPORATE AND MUNICIPAL BONDS

AND THE MAXIMUM RATE OF THE FEDERAL INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX. . 1900-40
1905

1910

1915

1920

1925

1930

1940

1935

PERCENT

PERCENT

(INVERTED)

(INVERTED)

2.5

2.5

LATEST FIGURES

DCC. 11, 1940
3.0

3.0

3.5

3.5

MOODY'S AAA

MUNICIPAL DONDS

STANDARD STATISTICS

4.0

4.0

4.5

4.5

5.0

5.0

RAILROAD BONDS,

STANDARD STATISTICS
5.5

5.5

6.0

6.0

PERCENT

PERCENT

(INCOME TAX)

(DIFFERENTIAL)

75

1.5

DIFFERENTIAL
50
.5

25
0

MAXIMUM RATE OF INCOME TAX
0

-5

1905

I--

Mas the Secretary of the Treasury

1910

1915

1920

1925

1930

1935

1940

*YIED FIGURES FOR 1940, AVERAGE OF FIRST 11 MONTHS

B 216

115

CONFIDENTIAL

December 18, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: Additional P-40 planes.

The representatives of Curtiss Wright have insisted
that they must get an immediate release on at least 100
of the 300 additional P-40 planes if materials are to be
ordered and production maintained. They feel that they
cannot wait until next week.

There are two possible solutions: first, for you
to ask Guy Vaughan to have Curtiss Wright undertake this

commitment on its own; or, secondly, to let the British
place an order for 100 of these right away, leaving the
allocation of the 200 to other purchasers until next
week. (The British have already been promised fifty,
and I think they should get 100 out of the 300 to be produced.)

My
to

15

Ms

tale

in

,I

Times.

JAM

116

CONFIDENTIAL

December 18, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Admiral Spear, my Lisison Committee member in the

Navy, called me late this afternoon to say that he had
been asked to sign a letter addressed to the United
States Naval Attache in Berlin, requesting the latter
to purchase $25,000 worth of binocular spare parts from
Zeiss for the United States Navy.
This has evidently been a usual peace-time practice
in the past and the Navy needs the parts. Despite the

fact, however, that these parts include no optical elements and merely consist of frames and the like, it is
my feeling that this request should be called to your
attention. Admiral Spear is interested in getting the
reaction of the Treasury Department.

26- Friental's 9
Bring to Forestals attention

mext

117
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 18, 1940
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

$54,000
L 8,000

Open market sterling remained at 4.03-3/4. Transactions of the reporting

banks were as follows:

Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

3,000
TO 4,000

The Swiss franc, which has remained in the neighborhood of .2321 since the
end of October, had a weak tendency today. Prior to our opening, the rate of .2318-7/8
WS 8 received from the Zurich market, and the first quotation here was .2320. A low
.2318 was recorded at noontime, and the closing rate was .2313-1/2.

There was virtually no movement in quotations for the other currencies, and
closing rates were:

Canadian dollar

13-3/8% discount

Swedish krona
Reichamark
Lira
Mexican peso

.2385
.4005
.0505
.2360
.0505
.2070

Cuban peso

8-1/2% discount

Argentine peso (free)

Brazilian milreis (free)

There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported that the National City Bank,
Bonbay, shipped $926,000 in gold from India to its head office at New York, for sale
to the New York Assay Office.

The Bombay gold price was unchanged at the equivalent of $33.82. Silver in

Bombay was priced at the equivalent of 43.01#, up 1/84.

The prices fixed in London for spot and forward silver both advanced 1/16d,
to 23d and 22-15/16d respectively. The dollar equivalents were 41.76 and 41.65

118
-2-

Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at 34-3/44.
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35$.
We made one purchase of silver amounting to 50,000 ounces under the Silver

Purchase Act. This consisted of now production from various countries, for forward
delivery.

The report of December 11 received from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,

giving foreign exchange positions of banks and bankers in its district, revealed that
total position of all countries was short the equivalent of $10,013,000, an
increase of $202,000 in the short position. The largest movement occurred in the
sterling position, wherein the banks undertook further commitments to sell pounds
equivalent to $1,448,000. Reduction in the "Europe" short position was concentrated
mainly in Swiss francs, with the position here moving from $512,000 short to $292,000

the

long. Net changes were as follows:
Country

England**

Short Position

Short Position

December 4

December 11

$ 59,000 (Long)
3,950,000
11,000 (Long)

Europe
Canada

Latin America
Japan

Other Asia

11 others
Total

362,000

4,296,000
1,347,000
74,000 (Long)
$9,811,000

Change in

Short Position
$ 1,448,000

$ 1,389,000
3,114,000

373,000 (Long)
374,000
4,093,000
1,428,000

12,000 (Long)
$10,013,000

-

-

+

-

+

+

836,000
362,000
12,000
203,000
81,000
62,000

+ $ 202,000

*Decrease in short position, or increase in long position, indicated by minus (-).
Increase in short position, or decrease in long position, indicated by plus (+).
**Combined position in registered and open market sterling.

KMR.
CONFIDENTIAL

119

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 18, 1940
Secretary Morgenthau

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Cochran

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transactions in
Italian accounts maintained with the Chase National Bank, New York, the National City
Bank, New York and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
Chase National Bank
Date

December 16

Account Debited

Amount Debited

Banca Commerciale Italiana,

$100,821.60

Paid To

Check to order of
Swiss Bank Corp.,

N.Y.

N.Y.

National City Bank
Date

December 17

Account Debited

Amount Debited

Banco di Napoli Trust Co.,

$1,860,000

100,000

Paid To

Chase National

N.Y.

Bank, N.Y., for

Banca Commerciale Italiana,

Check to order

account of Swiss
Bank Corp., N.Y.

N.Y.

of Chase

National Bank,
N.Y.

Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Date

December 17

Account Debited

Amount Debited
$ 40,000

Banco di Hapoli Trust Co.,

Paid To

Cash withdrawal

N.Y.

Check to order of

650,000

Banco di Napoli

Trust Co., N.Y.,
endorsed in favor

pmp

of Federal
Reserve Bank of
N.Y., in payment

of subscription

for $650,000,par

amount U.S.3/4%
Notes due Deo.15.
1945

120
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 18, 1940

Secretary Morgenthan
FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

In my menorandum of December 17 it was reported that the Banca Commerciale

Italiana, New York, had issued a check in favor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York for $195,000 against its account maintained with the Chase National Bank, New

York. Mr. McKeon reported today that this amount was in payment for $195,000 par
amount of the new U.S. 3/4% Notes due December 15. 1945.

BMP.

l

121

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
For

Miss

Chauncey

DATE December 18, 1940.

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

FROM Mr. Cochran

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transactions in

Russian accounts maintained with the Chase National Bank.

Principal changes in the State Bank of Russia's dollar account during the

period December 12 to December 18, inclusive, were as follows:
Amount

Amount
Date

Credited

Received From

Debited

Paid To

Dec. 12

$ 250,000

Dec. 13

57,733.67

Dec. 14

$300,000

Chase National Bank,

N.Y., by order of

Amtorg Trading Corp.
Commercial Letters

of Credit

471,164.96 Commercial Letters

of Credit

Union Bank of Switzerland, Zurich, by
order of Ungarische
Allgemeine Creditbank,
Budapest.

110,000

Chase National Bank,

N.Y., by order of Swiss
Bank Corp.,N.Y., by order
of Export Kredit, Hamburg,
re Credit #10870 by order
of Banque Suisse, Zurich.
Dec. 16

135,000

Dec. 17 167,293.33

Amtorg Trading Corp.

250,562.92 Commercial Letters

Chase National Bank,

205,560.88 Commercial Letters

N.Y., by order of

of Credit
of Credit

Stockholms Enskilda

Bank A/B, Stockholm 1,304,977.94 Amtorg Trading Corp.
411,349.90

Chase National Bank,

N.Y., bills discounted
for account of Promsyricimport.

122

-2.

Amount

Amount

Date

Credited

Received From

Dec. 18

$580,000

Irving Trust Co.,
N.Y., by order of

Debited

Paid To

$ 99,765.68

Commercial Letters

of Credit

Ungarische Allgemeine Creditbank,

Budapest, by order
of Union Bank of
Switzerland, Zurich
On December 18 the balances of the State Bank and the Amtorg Trading Corporation
were as follows:

State Bank of the U.S.S.R.
Cash Balance

Cash commercial Letters of
Credit

Time deposits
Total

langes in total since
December 11

Amtorg Trading Corporation

$ 10,593,600

$ 1,436,200

13,120,200

2,338,700
-0-

10,300

$ 3,774,900

$ 23,724,100

- $ 904,100

MMP.

t

$ 239,300

123

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 18, 1940
Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

Mr. Gifford telephoned me at 12:30 this noon. He let me know that he had
registered with his control $20,000,000 of United States Government securities,

including issues of thirty-four different dates. He would like to
these
in
the
coming
year.
Before
as interfere in any way with our market

inquired securities to whether for liquidation this might early vest doing operations. title this, in he

In compliance with his request, I brought this matter to the attention of Secretary
Morgenthan who authorised me to call Mr. Gifford back, which I did, and let his know
that ve had no objection to this transaction.

IMMP

124

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 16, 1940
Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran
FROM

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Official sales of British-owned dollar securities under the vesting order

effective February 19:

December 2

No. of Shares

$ Proceeds of

Sold

Shares Sold

Nominal Value
of Bonds Sold

$ Proceeds of
Bonds Sold

32,310
5,775
21,908
29,850
6,818
1,675

903,235
261,254
563,481
984,768
303,011
86,640

4,000
27,000
92,000

1,530
18,434
53.978

Nil
Nil
Nil

Nil
Nil

Fil

98,336

3,102,389

123,000

73,942

3
4
5
6

7

ovember 26 adjustment

32

3,102,421
Sales from
February 22
to November 30

2,186,324

76,520,977

5,606,500

4,342,191

2,284,660

79,623,398

5,729,500

4,416,133

TOTAL FEBRUARY 22
TO DECEMBER 7

Mr. Opie reported sales of non-vested securities for the week ended November
30 totaled $500,000.

BMS

125
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

December 18, 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
TO

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

FROM

effective Official
February sales
19:

December 9
10
11
12
13

of British-owned dollar securities under the vesting order

No. of Shares

$ Proceeds of

Sold

Shares Sold

Nominal Value
of Bonds Sold

$ Proceeds of

25,000

9,338

141,504

773.937
973,629
675,001
1,068,870
1,105,197
8,618
4,605,252

2,284,660

79,623,398

5,729,500

4,416,133

2,426,164

84,228,650

5,794,500

4,443,166

24,790
26,215
18,020
27,784
44,495
200

14

Nil
34,000
5,000
1,000
Nil
65,000

Bonds Sold
Nil
13,644
3,456
595

Nil
27,033

Sales from

February 22 to
December 7

TOTAL FEBRUARY 22
TO DECEMBER 14

Mr. Opie reported sales of non-vested securities for the week ended December
7 totaled $1,250,000.

126

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

AS the direction of the Secretary of the treasury.
I enclose herewith a copy of a letter of even date,
addressed to the Secretary of State, concerning n
quests from foreign countries the the parchase of aircraft.
Sincerely yours,
(Steped) Philip Young

Philip Thing
Assistant to the Secretary

The Recorable,

the Secretary of the Berry.

Similar letter to Secretary of Mar

Fitbj

127
December 18, 1940

X
My dear Mr. Secretary:

I have been informed by the Curties Wright Carpora-

tion that 18 will be in a position to produce 800 additional P-40 persuit ships for delivery in May, June, and

July, 1941. over and above those already allocated and
on order. This 300 includes the 194 P-40's which have
been discussed from time to time by Mr. Philip Young with
Assistant Secretary of State Derle.

It is my understanding that neither the Var Depart-

meat nor the Herry Department are interested in placing an

order for these planes, a situation which night make it
possible for them to be allocated to other foreign per
chasers, such as Chima, Greece, and Latin America.

For your information, I - enclosing a list prepared
for - by Mr. Philip Young, of the Interdepartmental

Committee for Coordination of Foreign and Domostic Military Purchases, which shows the various requests received

from all ever the world for airplanes, airplane enginee,

and parts.

In order that this potential supply of planoe my

be best distributed is accordance with the domand, may
I suggest that Secretary Stinson, Secretary Knox, and
syself meet in your office next Monday morning and invite
this committee, composed of Mr. Philip Young. General Burns,
Admiral Speer, and Colonal Nazvall, to be present.
Sincerely,
(Signed) E
The

The Secretary of State.
2 Enase

rely

a

By Memo

REQUESTS FOR AIRPLANES AND PARTS BY SOUTH AMERICAN COUNTRIES
PENDING OR RECENTLY DISAPPROVED
AS OF DECEMBER 13, 1940

Request For

Country

Argentina

600 - Part 16892 - Rocker Shafts

Date of Request

Date Forwarded to
Defense. Army. Nevy

Nov. 4, 1940

Nov. 23, 1940

Disapproved
Nov.23,1940

for Twin Wasp Junior S2A4G

Status

Engines

Argentine

Spare parts for Wasp 83H1 engines Dec. 4. 1940

Dec. 9. 1940

Pending

Argentina

Spare parts for Northrop airplanes Nev. 22. 1940

Nov. 26, 1940

Pending

Argentina

15 NA-16-1 and 15 NA-16-3 training Sept. 25, 1940

Sept. 28, 1940

Pending

planes

Brasil

2 Douglas DC-3 Commercial Trans- Dec. 5, 1940

-

from Govt.

ports

Brasil

Spare parts for Pratt and Whitney Nov. 13, 1940

Pending letter

Nov. 13, 1940

Pending infor-

Oct. 31, 1940

Pending

Nov. 25, 1940

Pending infor-

Wasp Jr. enginee

nation.

(PMR B-11)

Brasil

2 Leakheed Model 18-14 airplanes

Oct. 28, 1940

equipped with Pratt & Whitney
84040 engines and Hamilton

Standard constant speed propellers, Hub #23E50 and
Blades 46139A-12. (Filed by Lockheed)
Chile

Eyan S.T.M. with Kinner 160 HP

(20 to 25) - (PNR D-2)

Nov. 25, 1940

nation

Country
Chile

Chile

Request For

1 S1E3-0 Hornet engine and
accessories (PNR D-3)

Nov 25. 1940

25 Fairchild Trainers M. 62-B

Nov. 28, 1940

and spare parts (PNR D-5)
Mexico

Spare parts for airplane
engines (Wasp S1B1 and
Wasp Junior SB)

Mexico

Spare parts for airplane
engines (Canadian Car &

Mexico

Foundry)
21 aeroplanes OW 22 and

6 aeroplanes CW 21
Uraguay

8 Model 6-4000 Ranger

aircraft engines (Pluna)
Venesuela

Date of Request

2 standard Hamilton pro-

pellers, 40 rubber tubings,

(PNR D-3)
(PNR D-5)

Nov. 15, 1940

Nov. 15. 1940

Date Forwarded to
Defense. Army. Faxz

Nov. 25, 1940

Status

Pending information

Nov. 28, 1940

Pending infornation

Nov. 19, 1940

-

Pending

Pending information

Oct. 10, 1940

Oct. 12, 1940

Oct. 24, 1940

Oct. 25. 1940

Temporarily
disapproved.
Disapproved

Nov. 14, 1940

Dec. 4, 1940

Dec. 5. 1940

Pending

Oct. 22, 1940

Oct. 25. 1940

Pending

Dec. 10, 1940

Dec. 13, 1940

Pending

and 80 clamps
Venesuela

3 Curties P-36 planes,
3 Stearman A75L3 planes,
5 North American NA 16-3 planes,
3 North American 76-D-3 planes.

Venesuela

1 2D30 (6167A-6 blades) propeller

(not yet mailed)

REQUESTS FOR AIRPLANES AND BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES
PENDING OR RECENTLY DISAPPROVED
AS OF DECEMBER 13, 1940

Date Forwarded to

Country

Australia

Date of Request

Defense. Mayx

Oct. 30, 1940

Nov. 6. 1940

Disapproved
Nov. 30,1940

Oct. 31, 1940

Nov. 18, 1940

Pending

Nov. 25, 1940

Nov. 30. 1940

Pending

Training Planes: 120 Ryan, 50 North Nov. 26, 1940
American Basic Trainers and 20
Beechcraft AT-18 Bombing trainers
10 Lockheed Lodestar transport planes

Nov. 30. 1940

Pending

Dec. 2, 1940

Pending

Request For

7 Cyclone GR-1820-021 Enginee for

installation in 2 DC-3 Douglas

(PNR 255)

Status

Commercial Transports (PNR 255)
China

2 Model 18-40 "Lodestar" airplanes
equipped with 4 Wright Cyclone
OR-1820-01C2A engines from

Lockheed Aircraft Corp.
250 Fighters (Brewster F4F or
Grumman 36A or Vultee Vanguard

or Republic P-43)

100 Fighters (Curtise-Wright P-40
or North American NA-73)

50 Bombers (Douglas B-23 or older

type if more promptly available)

100 Bombers (Lockheed-Hudson)

Spare parts
Norway

4 Fairchild M-62 Trainers for use

Nov. 23, 1940

in Canada

130

-2Country

Philippine
Government

Turkey

Date of Request

Date Forwarded to
Defense,Army. Navy

Spare parts for Pratt & Whitney
Jr. Engines Series TIB and SB

Nov. 6. 1940

Nov. 7. 1940

Disapproved
Nov. 29,1940

Spare engine parts - Wright

Nov. 22, 1940

Nov. 28, 1940

Pending

Nov. 22, 1940

Nov. 28, 1940

Pending

Nov. 15, 1940

Nov. 20, 1940

Pending

Request For

Status

Cyclone Engines

50 Curtise-Wright Model 22

Falcon training planes with
necessary R-975-33 450 HP Wright
Whirlwind Engines
Sweden

Spare parts for Wright Cyclone
0102A Engines

131

P.4.

132
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT

TO: American Embassy, Vichy
DATE: December 18. 1940, g p.m.

NO. : 856

The following is a message for the personal attention
of Mr. Matthews from the Treasury Department.

The payment of $50,000 out of the blocked funds in
the United States belonging to the French Government is
being approved by the Treasury, payment to be made to the
American Friends Service Committee. The latter wishes to

purchase milk in Switzerland for distribution to children
in France.

It would be appreciated by Secretary Morgenthau if

you would report at intervals on the importation and
distribution of such milk by the Friends Committee. Informa-

tion particularly desired is whether the milk is being distributed under American supervision directly to the
children in France.
HULL

(BL)

TECHNIC 10 THE

EA:HF:LWW

PA/D 12212) SD: A-B
DE THE

RAILWW

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10

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Copy:bj
DELVEINERS

DECEIAED

133
GRAY

EH

Baghdad

Dated December 18, 1940

Rec'd 8:40 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.
122, DECEMBER 18, 4 p.m.

British banks in Iraq have received instructions from

their head offices in London to refuse all applications for
dollar exchange. The British maintain that Iraqi dollar
credits resulting from their exports to the United States
are more than sufficient to meet their normal purchases

in the United States, but that the Iraqis have permitted
their dollar Exchange to be utilized for their purchase
from Japan. In these circumstances Britain will not permit

its meager dollar credits to be utilized by Iraq. It is
estimated that Iraqi dollar credits lack by 30% enough to
meet their normal American requirements plus the Equipment

for their army now on order in the United States. The LEgation's banker informed ME today that the local British
banks endeavored to pursuade Iraqi Government to institute

Exchange control in order to safeguard their foreign credits
for legitimate needs such as American credits for American
goods but no action was taken.
The

134

EH -2- 122, December 18, 4 p.m. from Baghdad.

00

A

The Effect of this situation will be a throttling of
Iraq purchases in America until steps are taken to control
dollar credits for American purchases.
8/0

KNABENSHUE
EMB

135
DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Pille

WASHINGTON

December 18, 1940

In reply refer to
EA

IS

Harry White
his compliments to
John The Secretary Wiley of State presents All
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and transmits

for his consideration a copy of a memorandum of a conversation between the president of the Chemical National Bank
and Trust Company and officers of the Department of State
regarding purchase by Germans of German properties of
American corporations.

Enclosure:

Memorandum of conversation,
December 17, 1940.

UNVESSED

30

modervict

forman

CUNDOORE

H.P

ADVISER ON INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC AFFAIRS

136

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Memorandum of Conversation
DATE:

SUBJECT:

December 17, 1940

Purchase by Germans of German properties of American
corporations

PARTICIPANTS: Mr. Frank c. Houston, President, Chamical National
Bank and Trust Company, New York
Mr. Feis
Mr. Livesey
COPIES TO:

are 1-1

Mr. Houston called by reference from the Secretary
of State.

He said that the Chemical National Bank has been

making collections in Germany with very good success. It
was eligible with $19,000,000 eredits outstanding in Germany

at the time of the transfer erisis of 1931 and they were
freson under the Standstill Agreement. All these eredite
have been collected without less to the Bank. The Bank
has recently had in Germany for several months an employee,

Mr. Kellmar, German-Derm, naturalizes.com 10 or 12 years

age, very able and elever, who in ways that Mr. Houston
does net understand, but apparently largely in contact with

the State Works, has successed in collecting a million

dollars

137

dollars for the Beak and other sume for a British banking
firm. Mr. Kellmar returned to New York last week.
Mr. Kellmar brought word from some important German

interests that they were interested in purchasing for dollars
the German properties of American corporations. Mr. Houston
showed some press elippings dealing with similar German

activities and said that he of course had heard of them,
including a report that the General Electric Company
had sold some of its German interests to the German General

Electric Company for $80,000,000 cash. If some of the friends
and customers of the Chemical National Bank actually feel

the way that they have talked, they would be glad to sell
their properties in Germany for 8.80 on the dollar, if they
paid
could get part in cash for the properties which have yielded

little or no dollar returns for many years. It appeared
therefore that the Chemical National Bank might be in a
position to oblige its customers and to make a commission

for itself by following up the German proposal. However,
before approaching any one with such a proposition, he
had wished to come down and put the whole matter before

the Department of State and find out whether 11 had any

objections to such activities.
Mr. Feis said that the Department had of couree heard
a great deak about such purchase transactions, and had n
served newspaper reports regarding then. Reverse, n had
119820

138
118910 direct knowledge of them. No asked where Germany

was getting the dollars to pay for such purchases. Mr.
Houston said that he did not know. No had heard that certain
Belgian and Netherland banks had large amounts of dollars
accumulated through the Bank for International Settlements
or Swiss banks, and were new using these dollars to
purchase American properties in Germany. Mr. Feis said
that Germany had not laid hands on the Belgian or Netherland
banks. Mr. Houston said. that the Germans had not seised
the banks but he had heard that they had bought into them

and thus obtained control and direction over then. The
Reishabank was said to have used large same in such
investments.

Mr. Feis suggested that the Department sight telegraph
the American Consul at Basie, Switzerland, and ask him to
comment on PUROPS such as Mr. Houston had mentioned. No

mention would be made of the Chemical National Bank. Mr.

Houston saw no objection to this.
Mr. Feis said that 18 was his understanding, subject to

correction by his colleagues, that the Department - such
purchase and sale arrangements as private transactions on
which the Department did not sere to comment - as the phrase

was. Reviver, he could not say this without first strealeting

the to several others is the Department to
assertain

139
4

ascertain their views. No suggested he

telephone

Mr. Houston in two OF three days. Mr. and
would prefer to have something in writing that
there was no objection he would be glad
Department tomorrow, se that it would haveisemeting
more definite on which to base a memorandum and a reply.

This was agreed to. Mr. Houston said that if his Bank,
after hearing from the Department, should pursue the matter

with its friends and customers, he would be glad to keep
the Department fully informed of all transactions and of

all particulars of these activities.
Mr. Houston remarked that the Germans are of course

buying back securities of all kinds in the United States,
and he had heard in England also. Just before the war
started, they had made extensive purchases of German bonds

in England. My. Houston was in London at the time, and

on August 22, 1939, the day before he left London, a

banker friend there told his that on that one day his
firm had delivered 84,000 & of German bonds to German

who paid through the Bank of England. The
had taken this as a sign there would be no
sepaed to Mr Houston to be
meanzage

German confidence that Germany would I
health that German purchases

way,

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RAIFLINE

140

THE SECRETARY OF STATE
WASHINGTON

December 18, 1940.

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I want to thank you for your letter of December
eighteenth enclosing a copy of Lord Lothian's letter
to you dated December eighth regarding British shipping
questions, which I am very glad to have.

I appreciate your kindness in sending it to me.
Sincerely yours,

Gabre spee
The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

141

DEC 18 1940

X

n dear Mr. Presidents

I have pleasure in enclosing. is strict
confidence. a photostable oopy of a letter written
to me unios date of December . w the late Sept

Lethies, together with 100 enclosures. consisting
of seared asseriate dealing with British shipping
lessee and replacement. the position is British

shipparts. and estimated deliveries united the about shipbuilding progress.
Sincerely years.
(Signed) R

Secretary of the Treasury

n President.
m white Sease.

KMP
- 12/17/40

By Memorador 10 15

142

DEC 18 1040

and 19/8/41

n dear No. Secretary:

I have pleasure is enclosing. is strice

confidence. a photostable - of . Letter witten
to no enter date of December s w the late Book
Bethica. together with 190 enclosures, constating

of sectrol - dealing with British chipping
lessee and replacement, the position is British

deposits. and octinated deliveries - the -

chand program.
Sincerely years,
(Signed) E Magnation Jr.

Secretary of the Restocarse

m Reservite.
Trunk Boom.

Secretary of the May.

ANR
- 12/17/20

By Mastercard n

143

DEC 18 1010

n dear Mr. Secretary:

I have pleasure in enclosing. is strice

confidence. . photostatic on of a letter willies
to no water date of December s w the late Send

Bethies, together with see enclosures, consisting

of searet dealing with British chipping
lessee and replacement. the position is British

shipperto. and estimated deliveries under the cheat shipbuilding program.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) E

Secretary of the

Indicates.

the

Goodsti Ball.

Secretary of State.

amp
- 12/17/40

By / 10 of

144
DEC 1 8 1948

my dear Mr. Secretary:

I have pleasure is enclosing. is strict

confidence. a photostatte - of a letter written
to - under date of December s w the late Seed

Bethian. together with its enclosures. consisting

of secret dealing with British shipping
lessee and replacement, the position is British

shipparts, and estimated deliveries enter the about shipbuilding program.
Sincerely years.

(Signed) E Jr.
Secretary of the treasury

Inclusive
the Senerable,
Heavy s.

Secretary of Yes.

KMP

HMO:1 12/17/40

By / is

145

December 18, 1940

Ny dear Mr. Kandsons

I have pleasure in enclosing, in striet
confidence, a photostatic copy of a letter witten
to me under date of December e by the late Love

Lothian, together with its enclosures, consisting
of secret morranda dealing with British shipping
losses and replacement, the position in British
shipyards, and estimated deliveries under the abant shipbuilding program.
Sincerely yours,

Mr. William S. Kandoon,
Minisory Commission to the
Council of National Defence,
Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. c.

146

December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Knudsens

I have pleasure in enclosing, in strict
confidence, a photostatic copy of a letter written
to me under date of December 8 by the late Love

Lethian, together with its enclosures, consisting
of secret monoranda dealing with British shipping
lesses and replacement, the position in British
shipyards, and estimated deliveries under the shant shipbuilding program.

Sincerely yours,

Mr. William s. Kandoon,

Advisory

of
Defence,
Federal Reserve Building,
Council Commission National to the

mashington, D. G.

147
December 18, 1940

My dear Mr. Knudsens

I have pleasure in enclosing, in striet
confidence, a photostatic copy of a letter written
to me under date of December 8 by the late Lord

Lothian, together with its enclosures, consisting
of secret memoranda dealing with British shipping

losses and replacement, the position in British
shipyards, and estimated deliveries under the norchant shipbuilding program.

Sincerely yours,

Mr. William s. Kandson,
Advisory Commission to the
Council of National Defense,
Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. C.

148
CONFIDENTIAL

ACTION REQUIRED

December 18, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

Re: British Shipbuilding.

Admiral Peoples, representing Todd Shipyards, visited
me this morning, and Admiral Land, Commissioner Vickery of
the Maritime Commission, Congressman Oliver from Maine, and

representatives of the British Purchasing Commission all
telephoned me today wanting to know why the Treasury was

holding up the British sixty-ship program.

As I explained the other day, clearance had been given

for the British to negotiate a contract for these ships with

Todd, and, as I advised you, I asked Mr. Ballantyne not to
have this contract signed until final clearance WRS given.
My reasons for this request were, first, that Secretary Knox
had questioned the advisability of this new ship construction:
secondly, that the President during our conference at the
White House had made certain comments with respect to it; and,
thirdly, because the ship program was one item of the British
orders to be placed which is now under consideration.
Admiral Land advised me today that Secretary Knox had

no objection to this contract being signed. The British have

advised me that about 50 million dollars have been earmarked

for these ships (out of the total cost of 96 million dollars,

including capital).

Both Todd and the British are ready to sign the contract.
The Treasury is in the position of holding it up. My reaction
would be to clear it if the British ear-tagged the full amount,
otherwise to let it wait pending the detailed clearance of

program No. 1.

149
December 18, 1940
x

Dear stever

I an inclosing herewith a
memorandum with accompanying charte

from which you will note that -

playment in the aviation manufacturing
industry has multiplied More them four
times in the last Swenty months and
has doubled in the last sins months.

Those figures were se inter-

esting to - that I thought maybe you
OF the President night like to with
then public.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) E

Non. Stephen Early,

Secretary to the President,

The White House.
Enc.

photostatic copy of memo for Secretary
from Mr. Haas dated 12/12/40

B / 1020

150

December 18, 1940

Dear Steve:

I an inclosing herewith a

menorandum with accompanying charts

from which you will note that -

ployment in the aviation manufacturing
industry has multiplied More than four
times in the last twenty months and
has doubled in the last nine months.

These figures were so interesting to me that I thought maybe you
OF the President might like to make
then public.

Yours sincerely,

Non. Stephen Early,

Secretary to the President,

The White House.

By -

December 10, 1940

151

Dear Steve:

I am inclosing herewith a

from
which
you
playment in the aviation manufacturing
memorandum with accompanying charte

industry has multiplied

times in the last Swenty months and
has doubled in the last nine months.
These figures were so inter-

esting to - that I thought maybe you

OF
President might like to mike
thenthe
public.
Youre sincerely,

Non. Stephen Early,

Secretary to the President,

The White House.

By -

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
152
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

CONFIDENTIAL

DATE December 12, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Haad AA

Subject: Employment in the Aviation Manufacturing Industry

1. Employment in the aviation manufacturing industry has
multiplied more than four times in the last twenty months
and has doubled in the last nine months. In November 1940,
manufacturers of airplanes employed approximate 120,700
factory workers, and manufacturers of airplane engines
approximately 34,300 factory workers,a total of approximately 155,000 for the entire industry. Included in these
figures are the employees of manufacturers of parts for

airplanes and airplane engines.

2. For the industry as a whole employment rose by approximately 7,100 factory workers in November. The largest
increase in employment -- approximately 2,150 factory
workers -- occurred at the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation.
Consolidated Aircraft Corporation added 1,300 factory
workers to its rolls during the month, raising its total
employment to 12,355. In January of this year Consolidated
employed only 2,837 factory workers.

3. The increase in employment during November was not

experienced by all plants in the industry, however, there
being important decreases at two of the large plants. At
the United Aircraft Corporation employment decreased by
800 during the month. At the Boeing Aircraft plant in

Seattle there was a decrease of 1,040 factory workers.
Boeing reported that this decrease in employment was due

to "between contracts and lack of materials".

4. Two charts are attached to this memorandum. The first

shows total employment in the industry and the employment
of selected companies since January 1937. The attached
tables give the figures plotted on the chart. The second
chart presents total employment in the industry by
geographic areas for December 1938, December 1939, and

November 1940.

Attachments

153

Employment in Aviation Manufacturing Industry
(Airplanes and Airplane Engines)
1937-1940
1937

1938

1939

22,100

23,700

25,251

24,100

24,200

27,875

25,200

22,800

35,973

23,400

22,050

41,425

23,800

24,450

52,800

January
February

5,500

6,500

6,989

March

6,000

6,600

7,825

6,600

6,900

8,727

6,400

6,772

9,289

6,600

6,847

12,600

1940

Airplanes
January

February
March

April
May

June

July
August
September
October
November
December

58,000
60,500
64,500
67,000
73,000
80,000
90,000
97,448
105,362
115,241
120,650

Airplane Engines

April
May

June

July
August
September
October
November
December

13,900
15,800
17,300
18,600
20,800
22,900
25,400
27,019
28,981
32,633

34,314

Total Industry -- Airplanes and Airplane Engines
January
February

27,600

30,200

32,240

March

30,100

30,800

35,700

31,800

29,700

44,700

29,800

28,822

50,714

April
May

June

July
August
September

October

November
December

71,900
76,300
81,800
85,600
93,800
102,900
115,400
124,467
134,343
147,874

154,964

30,400

31,297

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.

65,400

154
Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
1937-1940
1937

1938

1939

1940

January
February

615

222

654

March

850

290

912

808

440

1,410

859
865
896
840
873

718

235

703

213

606

799

1,834

1,493

2,380

1,726

1,700

2,749

1,249

1,736

2,989

Bell Aircraft Corp.

April
May

June

July
August
September
October
November
December

1,192
1,480
1,963
2,413
3,355
3,449

Boeing Aircraft Co. - Seattle
January
February
March

April
May

June

July
August
September

October

November
December

5,137
4,942
4,759
4,198
5,190
5,882
6,571
6,926

1,109

1,798

3,985

1,380

2,285

4,749

6,940
6,391
5,351

Consolidated Aircraft Corp.
January
February

3,169

2,540

968

March

3,246

2,518

819

3,099

2,104

832

August
September

2,617

989

1,408

November
December

2,580

981

2,540

April
May

June

July
October

2,837
3,477
3,807
4,349
5,040
5,821
6,743
7,836
9,289
11,018
12,355

155
Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
1937-1940

(continued)
1937

1938

1939

1940

4,380
4,744

:

Curtiss-Wright Corp. - Buffalo
January

1,241

2,211

3,802

March

1,500

2,347

2,939

February

April
May

June

July
August
September
October
November
December

1,933

2,310

2,848

2,202

2,736

1,562

5,016
5,213
5,698
6,314
6,531
6,597
6,824

7,682
2,007

7,889

3,491

3,447

5,591

6,328

4,334

5,961

6,173

4,177

6,653

4,672

5,445

August
September

5,532

4,028

6,318

November
December

6,771

4,110

10,362

910

1,577

2,305

1,094

1,594

3,509

1,338

1,797

5,699

1,383

1,997

5,324

1,428

2,123

5,156

Douglas Aircraft Co., Inc.
January

February
March

April
May

June

July
October

11,952
12,077
13,119
14,033
14,656
14,957
14,662
14,898
14,219
14,158
14,787

Lookheed Aircraft Corp.
January
February

March

April
May

June

July
August
September

October

November
December

5,157
4,768
4,362
4,400
5,016
5,591
6,599
7,296
7,582
8,517
10,675

15S

Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
1937-1940

(continued)
193

1,364

1,*14

2,905

1,716

1,892

4,092

2,044

2,134

6,029

2,032

2,341

10,070

1,41*

2,777

11,174

1939

:

1937

1940

:

:

Glenn L. Martin Co.
January
February
March

April
May

June

July
August
September
October
November
December

10,9*4

9,407
9,133
9,010
9,357
9,133
9,513
11,200
10,019
11,414
12,950

North American Aviation, Inc.
January
February

#29

1,713

2,223

4,049
4,324

March

**9

1,935

2,457

4,154

April

4,371

May

June

July
August
September
October
November
December

441

2,400

3,125

1,272

2,685

2,992

566

2,530

3,795

2,350

2,245

1,*26

2,444

2,16

1,766

2,497

1,972

1,952

4,336
4,782
4,91*
4,916
5,111
5,*28
6,054

United Aircraft Corp.
(excluding Pratt & Whitney)
January
February
March

April
May

June

July
August

September
October
November
December

2,439

1,200

2,123

2,33*

1,774

2,5**

2,757
3,051

3,46*

3,735
3,912
4,2M2
4,M23

5,016
5,445
6,010
5,251

157
Employment of Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Corporations
1937-1940

(continued)

:

1938

1939

:

:

:

:

:

1937

1940

:

:

Vultee Aircraft, Inc.
January

364

February

440

March

April
May

June

560

533

430

288

334

662

July
August
September
October
November
December

742
938
959

1,008
1,334
2,127
2,618
2,857
3,531
3,652

3,749

Employment of Selected Airplane Engine Corporations
1937-1940
1937

1938

January
February

218

March

1939

1940

262

454

229

297

466

238

339

558

1,114
1,261
1,610
1,958
2,766
3,254

:

Allison Engineering Co.

April
May

June

July
August

238

382

642

266

439

901

January
February

151

153

134

March

153

152

138

162

144

171

135

146

203

September
October
November
December

3,917
4,595
5,282
6,280

6,295

Continental Motors Corp.

(Airplane Engine Division)

April
May

June

July
August
September

October
November
December

288
344
358
368
378
388
398
382
567

732
855

152

142

243

Lycoming Division of Aviation Manufacturing Corp.
January
February

March

April

849

729

519

889

704

521

901

549

573

756

514

644

762

506

689

Kay

June

July
Ausust
September
October
November
December

581
638
657
711
765
819
873
970

1,080
1,459
1,320

158

159
Employment of Selected Airplane Engine Corporations
1937-1940

(continued)
:

:

1938

:

:

1937

1939

1940

5,642
6,549

:

Pratt & Whitney Aircraft
January
February

1,931

2,567

2,264

March

2,119

2,489

2,659

2,384

2,555

7,15*
7,541
7,765

3,066

2,471

2,384

3,394

#,504
9,121
9,449
9,406

April
May

June

July
August
September

October
November
December

9,794
10,377

2,61*

2,227

5,022

January
February

2,254

2,607

3,39*

March

2,515

2,705

3,771

6,001
6,537
6,984

*,6*2

Wright Aeronautical Corp.

April

7,882

May

June

July
August
September

October
November
December

5,411

2,200

2,930

3,997

2,690

3,184

4,026

2,60

3,374

5,141

9,491
10,151
10,726
11,240
11,950

STRICTLY

160

EMPLOYMENT IN AVIATION MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY
Factory Wage Earners
1937
EMPLOYEES

EMPLOYEES
Thousands

Thousands

Total Industry (Aircraft and Engines)
140

140

120

120

100

100

80

80

60

60

40

40

20

20

o

0
.

1940

1938

1937

Selected Aircraft Manufacturing Companies

Selected Airplane Engine Companies
EMPLOYEES
Thousands

EMPLOYEES

EMPLOYEES
Thousands

Thousands

The Douglas Aircraft Co

1941

Glenn Martin Co

17.1

15.0

15.0

15.0

12.5

12.5

12.5

10.0

10.0

7.5

7.5

7.5

5.0

5.0

2.5

2.5

5.0

2.5

1934

1937

940

1939

1941

0

o

1937

1938

1939

1940

1937

1938

1939

1940

...

17.5

15.0

Prett and Whitney Aircraft

Boeing Aircraft Ca

1941

15 0

12.5

12.1

D

10.0

Wright Aeronautical Corp

Consolidated Aircraft Corp
12.5

10.0

10.0

10.0

7.5

7.5

7.5

5.0

1.0

5.0
2.5

0

1937

1938

1939

1940

o

2.5

1941

2.5

1938

1937

1940

1939

1941

12.5

12.5

Curtiss-Wright Corp
Reducing

dright

a

Lockheed Aircraft Corp

Corp)

1937

1938

1940

..

1440

...

1939

1940

1941

1989

1440

1941

1939

12.5

10.0

10.0

Allison Engineering Co
10.0
7.5
7.5

7.6

5.0

5.0

5.0
2.5

2.5

2.5

1938

1939

1940

0

1937

1945

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

0

10.0

10.0

North American Aviation Inc

0

United Aircraft Cora
discharing Pratt Whiteed

1937

1938

1939

7.6

7.5

7.5

Lycomine Division of
5.0

5.0

2.5

2.5

1938

1939

1940

o

1937

1941

0

2.5

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

0

Ball Aircraft

accept Engine
2.5

2.5

o

1940

1941

1934

Centinental Motors

Vultee Aircraft Corp

Corp

2.5

1939

1937

so

5.0

5.0

Ariation Manufacturing Corp

so

1937

1938

1939

1940

1941

1937

1988

.

161

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

EMPLOYMENT IN THE AVIATION MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY, BY REGIONS
Factory Wage Earners
MONT

NOAR

MINN

wis

NY

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NEW

IDAMO
IOWA
NESS

UTAH

PENN

as
OHIO

COLO

MO

KANS

Mountain
Central and Southern

Atlantic

Dec 1938- 2,300

32,000

Dec 1939- 4,400

ARIZ

Dec

Nov 1940-22.000

Nov.

1940-

71,500

OKLA
TEXAS

ARK

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GA

ALA

MISS

CALIF

FLA

Total U.S.
Dec 1938-31300

Dec 1939-65400

Nov. 1940-155,000
.
Office Secretary of the Treasury

Including Parts Companies

1-124-A

WAR DEPARTMENT
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF
WASHINGTON

December 18, 1940.

MEMORANDUM FOR LIEUTENANT COMMANDER MCKAY:

Attached is a proposed itinerary for the
Secretary's trip as suggested by the Chief of Staff.

It includes visits to type installations in Continental

United States. We would have liked to arrange for the
Secretary to visit the Puerto Rican area and see some
phase of the joint operations scheduled there for February, but the plans of the Navy Department have made the
dates of this landing exercise so uncertain that it would

be difficult to include it in a short trip. The hours

shown on the proposed itinerary are, of course, only
tentative and are included simply to give an idea of the
time required to make the trip.

HBS.
W.B.S.

Incl.

162

163

SUGGESTED ITINERARY OF MR. MORGENTHAU

(All Travel by Air)

Dayton

Washington

Fort

Sill

Langley Field

Barksdale Field
Ft.

Bragg

Camp Jackson
San

Camp Beauregard

6

Intonio

Ft. Benning

1st Day Depart Washington 9:00 for Langley Field.
Arrive Langley Field 10:00 A. M.
Depart Langley Field 1:00 P.M. for Fort Benning
flying over Fort Bragg and Camp Jackson.
Arrive Fort Benning 5:00 P.M.
2nd Day
Inspect Infantry School
Armored Division

4th Infantry Division
Witness demonstration of modern weapons and tactics.
Depart Fort Benning 1:00 P.M. E.S.T. for Camp Beauregard
Arrive Camp Beauregard 3:00 P.M. C.S.T.
Inspect concentration area.
3rd Day Depart Camp Beauregard 9:00 A.M. for Barksdale Field
Arrive Barksdale 9:50 A.M., inspect Air Corps combat units
Depart Barkedale 1:00 P.M. for San Antonio
Arrive San Antonion 3:25 P.M.
Inspect Gulf Coast Training Center (Air Corps)
4th Day
Inspect Fort Sam Houston, Randolph 6 Kolly Fields.
5th Day

Depart San Antonion 8:00 A.M. for Fort Sill

Arrive Fort sill 10:30 A.M., inspect Field Artillery School
Depart Fort sill 1:00 P.M. for Dayton, Ohio
Arrive Dayton 6:50 P.M., visit Air Corps Material Division
6th Day Depart Dayton 12:30 P.M. CST for Washington
Arrive Washington 4:10 P.M. EST

OCAC 12-18-40

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December 18, 1940
5:07 p.m.
Frank
Knox:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Hello, Frank.

K:

I just thought you might be interested to
know that we had a very, very satisfactory
talk with the President on a matter we
discussed with you and in principle the idea
was accepted.

H.M.Jr:

oh, wonderful.

K:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Isn't it marvelous.

K:

Yeah, as a matter of fact as I might of
guessed, the Old Man had found his way there
pretty nearly alone.

H.M.Jr:

Pardon.

K:

He practically found that - he practically
had gone all the way himself in his own
thinking.

H.M.Jr:
K:

Well, I'll be darned.
Yeah. So I guess it's going to come out all
right. It's going to be decided this week.

H.M.Jr:

Wonderful.

K:

Yeah, I think so. I think we'll get a little
order out of the thing now.

H.M.Jr:

Well, one thing that I - I talked up everybody
but ourselves and my boys have told me today
that we musn't forget about the guiding of
the England in this picture.

K:

Do what?

H.M.Jr:

Taking care of England and her orders.

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-2K:

H.M.Jr:

Well, that's part of the picture.

It is.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yes, very definitely.
Well, where would they fit in?

K:

Huh?

K:

H.M.Jr:

I didn't attempt to get my own self into the

picture.

K:

How will it fit in?

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

K:

They become Army and Navy orders.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

K:

See?

H.M.Jr:

I see. I see.

K:

The problem that we have got ahead of us is

H.M.Jr:
K:

additional appropriations.
I see. But you're perfectly happy?

I'm very happy over it and delighted with the

way the thing was received.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I'm awfully glad. I appreciate your
calling me.

K:

All right, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

K:

Good-bye.

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December 18, 1940

I called up Herbert Gaston at 8:00, and told him
that Mayor LaGuardia had told me that the New York Telegraph in New York City is being boycotted, and the reason

they are being boycotted is because of a few articles and
statements which he gave out during the campaign. I told

him that I thought if the articles they were running

on me were friendly that it might help the New York
Telegraph in New York City. Gaston said that this was
an excellent angle, and it looks as though we were doing
them a favor instead of their doing us a favor. Gaston

said he almost hesitated to tell them this for fear that dothey

might want too much from me. However, he said he would

it, and would get hold of Parker, take him out to lunch
and talk the matter over with him. I asked Gaston to

write me a memo and tell me what happened when he saw

Parker, and he said he would.

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President of 7wor Edward rat'l 25 charge Brown
bought December this in , 1940 to Secretary

Dee 19

SPECIAL REPORT TO THE CONGRESS

ab 9:30am

by

the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System,
the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks,
and the Federal Advisory Council

For the first time since the creation of the Federal
Reserve System, the Board of Governors, the Presidents of the
twelve Federal Reserve Banks, and the members of the Federal Ad-

visory Council representing the twelve Federal Reserve Districts
present a joint report to the Congress.

This step is taken in order to draw attention to the need
of proper preparedness in our monetary organization at a time when

the country is engaged in a great defense program that requires the

coordinated effort of the entire Nation. Defense is not exclusively
a military undertaking, but involves economic and financial effectiveness as well. The volume of physical production is now greater than
ever before and under the stimulus of the defense program is certain

to rise to still higher levels. Vast expenditures of the military
program and their financing create additional problems in the
monetary field which make it necessary to review our existing
monetary machinery and to take measures to forestall the development

of inflationary tendencies attributable to defects in the machinery
of credit control. These tendencies, if unchecked, would produce

a rise of prices, would retard the national effort for defense and
greatly increase its cost, and would aggravate the situation which
may result when the needs of defense, now a stimulus, later absorb

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less of our economic productivity. While inflation cannot be controlled by monetary measures alone, the present extraordinary
situation demands that adequate means be provided to combat the

dangers of overexpansion of bank credit due to monetary causes.
The volume of demand deposits and currency is fifty percent

greater than in any other period in our history. Excess reserves are
huge and are increasing. They provide a base for more than doubling

the existing supply of bank credit. Since the early part of 1934

fourteen billion dollars of gold, the principal cause of excess reserves, has flowed into the country, and the stream of incoming gold
is continuing. The necessarily large defense program of the Govern-

ment will have still further expansive effects. Government securities
have become the chief asset of the banking system, and purchases by

banks have created additional deposits. Because of the excess reserves,

interest rates have fallen to unprecedentedly low levels. Some of them
are well below the reasonable requirements of an easy money policy,

and are raising serious, long-term problems for the future well-being

of our charitable and educational institutions, for the holders of
insurance policies and savings bank accounts, and for the national
economy as a whole.

The Federal Reserve System finds itself in the position of

being unable effectively to discharge all of its responsibilities.
While the Congress has not deprived the System of responsibilities or

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-3of powers, but in fact has granted it new powers, nevertheless, due

to extraordinary world conditions, its authority is now inadequate
to cope with the present and potential excess reserve problem. The
Federal Reserve System, therefore, submits for the consideration of
the Congress the following five-point program:
1. Congress should provide means for absorbing a large

part of existing excess reserves, which amount to seven billion
dollars, as well as such additions to these reserves as may occur.
Specifically, it is recommended that Congress -

(a) Increase the statutory reserve requirements for
demand deposits in banks in central reserve cities
to 26%; for demand deposits in banks in reserve
cities to 20%; for demand deposits in country
banks to 14%; and for time deposits in all banks
to 6%.

(b) Empower the Federal Open Market Committee to make

further increases of reserve requirements sufficient to absorb excess reserves, subject to the
limitation that reserve requirements shall not be
increased to more than double the respective percentages specified in paragraph (a). (The power
to change reserve requirements, now vested in the
Board of Governors, and the control of open market
operations, now vested in the Federal Open Market
Committee, should be placed in the same body.)

(c) Authorize the Federal Open Market Committee to change
reserve requirements for central reserve city banks,

or for reserve city banks, or for country banks, or
for any combination of these three classes.

(d) Make reserve requirements applicable to all banks
receiving demand deposits regardless of whether or
not they are members of the Federal Reserve System.

(e) Exempt reserves required under paragraphs (a), (b)
and (d) from the assessments of the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation.

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2. Various sources of potential increases in excess reserves should be removed. These include: the power to issue three

billions of greenbacks; further monetization of foreign silver; the
power to issue silver certificates against the seigniorage, now
amounting to one and a half billion dollars on previous purchases

of silver. In view of the completely changed international situation
during the past year, the power further to devalue the dollar in terms
of gold is no longer necessary or desirable and should be permitted

to lapse. If it should be necessary to use the stabilization fund in
any manner which would affect excess reserves of banks of this country,

it would be advisable if it were done only after consultation with the
Federal Open Market Committee whose responsibility it would be to fix
reserve requirements.

3. Without interfering with any assistance that this Government may wish to extend to friendly nations, means should be found to

prevent further growth in excess reserves and in deposits arising from

future gold acquisitions. Such acquisitions should be insulated from
the credit system and, once insulated, it would be advisable if they
were not restored to the credit system except after consultation with
the Federal Open Market Committee.

4. The financing of both the ordinary requirements of
Government and the extraordinary needs of the defense program should

be accomplished by drawing upon the existing large volume of deposits

rather than by creating additional deposits through bank purchases of

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-5Government securities. We are in accord with the view that the general

debt limit should be raised; that the special limitations on defense
financing should be removed; and that the Treasury should be authorized

to issue any type of securities (including fully taxable securities)
which would be especially suitable for investors other than commercial

banks. This is clearly desirable for monetary as well as fiscal reasons.
5. As the national income increases a larger and larger portion of the defense expenses should be met by tax revenues rather than by
borrowing. Whatever the point may be at which the budget should be balanced, there cannot be any question that whenever the country approaches

a condition of full utilization of its economic capacity, with appropriate
consideration of both employment and production, the budget should be

balanced. This will be essential if monetary responsibility is to be
discharged effectively.
In making these five recommendations, the Federal Reserve System

has addressed itself primarily to the monetary aspects of the situation.
These monetary measures are necessary, but there are protective steps,

equally or more important, that should be taken in other fields, such as
prevention of industrial and labor bottlenecks, and pursuance of a tax
policy appropriate to the defense program and to our monetary and fiscal
needs.

It is vital to the success of these measures that there be unity
of policy and full coordination of action by the various Governmental
bodies. A monetary system divided against itself cannot stand securely.
In the period that lies ahead a secure monetary system is essential to
the success of the defense program and constitutes an indispensable bulwark
of the Nation.

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175

Memorandum

December 19, 1940
A-L

Mr. Long:

The following representatives of government departments
and agencies met on December 18, 1940 to discuss policies

covering immobilized foreign shipping in United States jurisdiction:
State Department

Green H. Hackworth, Legal Adviser to the Secretary

J.E. Saugstad, Assistant Chief, Division of
International Communications

Treasury Department

Herbert E. Gaston, Assistant Secretary of the
Treasury

E. H. Foley, Jr., General Counsel
Huntington Cairns, Assistant General Counsel
Oscar S. Cox, Assistant to the General Counsel
War Department

Lt. Col. C. H. Kells, Executive Office, Water
Transportation Branch

Major Frank Ross, General Staff Corps
Justice Department

Judge N. A. Townsend, Special Assistant to the
Attorney General

Navy Department

Capt. R. E. Schuirmann, Director of Central
Division, Naval Operations
Capt. C. S. Alden

Commander H. Biesemeier, Office of Judge Adjutant
General

United States

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-2 United States Maritime Commission
Admiral Emory S. Land, Chairman

Russell E. Luts, Assistant General Counsel
Eugene J. Ackerson, Attorney, Legal Division
H. T. Morse, Assistant to the Chairman
The attached memorandum for the Secretary of State is

agreed to by these officials although not signed by them.

LE:GHH

IN:JES:FMD

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MEMORANDUM OF CONFERENCE ON IMMOBILIZED SHIPPING

Time: 4:00 to 5:40 P.M., December 18, 1940
Place: Room 474, State Department Building
Present:

State Department: Green H. Hackworth, Legal Adviser to theSecretary,
and J. E. Saugstad, Assistant Chief, Division of International Communications.

Treasury Department: Herbert E. Gaston, Assistant Secretary of the
Treasury, E. H. Foley, Jr., General Counsel, Huntington Cairns, Assistant

General Counsel, and Oscar S. Cox, Assistant to the General Counsel.

War Department: Lt. Col. C. H. Kells, Executive Office, Water Transportation Branch, and Major Frank Ross, General Staff Corps.
Justice Department: Judge N. A. Townsend, Special Assistant to
the Attorney General.

Navy Department: Capt. R. E. Schuirmann, Director of Central Division,
Naval Operations, Capt. C. S. Alden, and Commander H. Biesemeier, Office of
Judge Adjutant General.

United States Maritime Commission: Admiral Emory S. Land, Chairman,
Russell E. Lutz, Assistant General Counsel, Eugene J. Ackerson, Attorney,
Legal Division, and H. T. Morse, Assistant to the Chairman.
Discussion:

Mr. Saugstad of the State Department, raised for discussion the
revision of Draft No. 3 of the memorandum, a copy of which is annexed. The
Treasury Department raised the fundamental question of whether it was wise
to recommend to the President that a Coordinator be appointed since the
conferees were apparently meeting for the purpose of coordinating and
disposing of the problem of immobilized ships.
The Treasury, through Messrs. Gaston, Cairns, and Cox, also raised
a series of specific questions. One was the statement that there was not
now an acute shortage of tonnage available for the requirements of the

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-2United States overseas commerce. Mr. Cox pointed out that factually, in
the light of what Admiral Land had said, the statement was not true and

that as a legal matter, if it were decided to requisition the ships, a

record should not be made against the Government on either an unsupported

or doubtful statement of fact.

The Treasury also raised the question as to whether or not the
statement in Paragraph 3, on page 7, about the inability of the Maritime
Commission to requisition under existing law, was accurate. The Treasury
also suggested that if it were decided to proceed on the basis of the
present plan, one of the major recommendations should be that the Coordinator determine whether or not the immobilized ships could be put to use

under the law. All of the Treasury's views were adopted. Other suggested

revisions were also introduced and accepted.

Mr. Saugstad said he would send a revised copy of the memorandum

to Mr. Gaston on the morning of December 19. Mr. Saugstad also said that
he wished to submit this memorandum to the Secretary of State at the same
time.

The memorandum was sent, not to Mr. Gaston, but to Mr. Cox at
5:00 P.M. on December 19.

Attachment

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12/20 40
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STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

MEMORANDUM

For the Secretary of State:
Subject: Vessel Tennage

It is the consensus of representatives of the
Departments of State, Treasury, War, Justice, and
Navy, and of the Maritime Commission, after informal

discussion, that destruction and disruption of world
shipping tonnage caused by current war in Europe

have reached conditions in amount and in degree of

intensity sufficient to warrant immediate administrative consideration.

Tomage Destruction

Strietly confidential official sources indicate
that from September 3, 1939 to November 24, 1940,
tomage

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tonnage destruction has been:

British

2,729,000 gross tens

Foreign

1,898,000

.

4,627,000

.

Total

.

Average rate of British loss per week from June 10
to November 24, 1940, 99,000 gross tons, OF approximately

14,000 gress tons per day.

Tomnage Immobilization

There are in United States ports (including outlying
possessions) 112 vessels of foreign registry totalling
615,000 gross tons which are immobilized by reason of

war conditions. They are as follows:
Totals by Plage
No.

Danish
French

Italian

Nervegian

Belgian
Greek

Regarism

Lithmanism
Yugosias

Latvian

41

15
27
6
1
4

1
1
3

3

Gross Tons
188,561
164,018
145,489
41,925
6,429
24,815
3,933

1,265
11,642
10,761
5,997
7,209

Estomism
Rammism
Sundish

3

German

2

24,601
9,067

112

618,430

Total

2

3

There

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s
There remains of the 112 vessels in the Maritime
Commission's 1016-mp first at the outbreak of the war,

a total of 46 vessels, 24 of which are up for bid for
purchase without restriction, 2 are up for bid restricted
to purchase by American citizens for domostic operation,
and the remaining 20 vessels are either undergoing recen-

disioning or are to be reconditioned for use as may be
required,
Tennage Shortage and Reserve

The Maritime Commission is of the opinion that there
is not NOW nor has there been acute shortage of commercial

tonnage available for the requirements of the United States

overseas commerce. It is generally agreed that 18 is inpossible to predies with any certainty future teanage

requirements. It is obvious in the light of previous
experience during was conditions that the Government of
the United States must maintain seas reserve tannage.
Shipping Requirements of Government Agencies

The present additional meas time shipping
requirements

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requirements of government agencies other than those of
the Maritime Commission are summarized as follows:

War Department: 7 vessels of transport class and
5 vessels of supply class.
Navy Department: 15 combination vessels and
10 earge supply vessels.

The Maritime Commission has already turned over to the
Var Department 13 vessels-7 combination vessels and 6

cargo vessels, and there are under construction for the
account of the Commission for delivery to the Var Department two 0-3 type transports. The Maritime Commission
has made arrangements for acquisition by the Navy or

has turned over directly to the Navy 38 vessels-14
combination vessels, 12 new eargo vessels of the 0-2
and C-3 type, and 12 new national defense tankers. The
Commission has received bids for the construction of

five additional new national defense tankers for the
Navy.

Problems

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Problems

On the surface, it might appear that ve could take
over these foreign vessels amounting to over six hundred
thousand tons and release the equivalent of that tonnage

to the British. This does not necessarily follow. It
is a question as to how many of these vessels are desirable or economically suitable for operation in our United
States trade. Some of the problems involved are as
follows:

1. The acquisition of these vessels and their
operation as merchant vessels under the American

flag will necessitate, under existing law, alterations to meet our inspection requirements and
standard of crews quarters.

2. Being equipped with foreign-built engines,
most of which are Diesel, numerous difficulties will
be encountered in operation, such as making repairs,

securing parts, eteeters.
3. Securing American licensed engineers

experienced in operating these engines will be

difficult.
4. If these vessels were chartered for
commercial operation in our Merchant Marine, it
would

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would probably be accessary to retain at least
the Danish engine FOOD personnel. Under existing

law, all licensed officers must be American
citizens.

s. If, in turn, American vessels were treasferred to the Marry OF sold to the British, the
American crows would be thrown out of work with

resultant serious objections by American labor.

6. These vessels, being foreign-built, would
not, water existing law, be eligible for subsidy
or operation in the domostic trade.
v. Mady of these shipe are of small teamage

readering questionable their utility to our Merchant
Marine or to the Away or Mary. In the opinion of
the Away and Herry, the balk of those vessels are
not suitable for Away or Navy needs. However, they

might be very uneful to the British.
Destrol Objective

1. That such central should new be exercised

over foreign tennage immilised in United States

parts on - of - contisions as will keep 28
available to this Government for use as may be

mosted by our various services or for possible
salence to the British Government.
Extetties

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Existing Authority to Centrol and Acquire Foreign Flax
Tomage under

1. The Treasury Department has authority to
take protective control ever the immobilized
vessels in our ports and may prevent their departure and protect them against note of sabotage.

(U.S.C., Title so, Chapter 12) An existing presidential proclamation is sufficient basis for the
exercise of this authority.
2. The Havy Department has authority to acquire

and convert vessels for naval auxiliaries. It may
charter OF purchase vessels for naval auxiliaries
but does not have authority to requisition. (Second
Supplemental National Defense Appropriation Act,
1941 (Public No. 781))

3. The Maritime Commission is the requisitioning agency of the Government with respect to
American-owned vessels but it does not, under

existing statutes, have authority to purchase,
charter, or requisition foreign-owned, foreign
flag tennage. (Section 902, Merchant Marine Act,
1936)

Recommendations

1. That the President designate one man as

Chief Countinater under the President for the
activities of the various Departments and intopendent agencies of the Government conserved in
the

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the problem of dealing with the immobilized vessels,
teamage supply and other related emergency problems.

2. That the Secretary of the Treasury, in
cooperation with the Chief Coordinator, immediately
take such steps as may be necessary to control and
safeguard the immobilised vessels new in our parts,

including ports of the insular possessions,

3. That the Coordinator assertain if the
immobilized vessels can be requisitioned or otherwise acquired by the Government under existing law.

4. That the Navy proceed, in cooperation with
the Chief Coordinator, to exercise the authority
which it now has to buy or sharter any of the
tonnage under consideration that may be needed for

its purposes,

5. If existing law does not authorize the
requisition of immobilized vessels and if the
President submits legislation to the Gongress in
line with the policy recently announced with rea-

peet to granting aid to the British, there be ineluded a section giving him specific authority to
require OF requisition foreign owned foreign fing
vessels immobilized by reason of WAY conditions,

found in United States jurisdiction, together with
each authority as may be necessary to make each use

OF disposition thereof as he shall determine,

It

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It will of course be appreciated that any request

for legislative authority to acquire immobilized foreign
vessels will at once raise the question as to why such
authority is needed at a time when we are selling vessels,
and also whether the purpose in obtaining such authority

is to enable us to turn these or other vessels over to
the British Government or to keep available reserve tennage for national needs. Any opposition would perhaps
be more pronounced in connection with an independent

bill for this purpose than it would be if a section for
the same purpose were included in other legislation of

a general character concerning aid to the British,

Le:GHH

INDJESIFIC

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December 19, 1940
12:00 p.m.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Isador
Lubin:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, Lubin. Morgenthau.

L:

Is
there any chance of my seeing you for
one minute?

H.M.Jr:

No, but you can do it on the phone.

L:

It's the sort of thing I can't talk about.

H.M.Jr:
L:

Well, what is it?
It's a matter that I think the Boss has got
to be spoken to about.

H.M.Jr:

Well, can you give me an idea?

L:

Well, it's this reorganization of the
Commission.

H.M.Jr:
L:

Oh.

Well, do you want to before Cabinet?

I don't care whether - more or less - but I
do feel that there's going to be a hell of a
reaction particularly in view of John Lewis
and his group - to be able to say that the
two Republicans - three Republicans, Army,
Navy and a big industrialist are going to run
this whole show.

H.M.Jr:

Well, why don't you be here at 10 minutes of
2:00.

L:

O. K. I'll be there.

H.M.Jr:

10 minutes of 2:00.

L:

All right, fine. Swell.

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December 19, 1940

Mr. Lubin phoned the Secretary at 12 o'clock
and wanted to come over to see the Secretary on a

matter he preferred not to discuss over the phone.
He came over at ten minutes to two.

Mr. Lubin said he thought it was a great mis-

take to have three Republicans, Stimson, Knox and
Knudsen and no Democrats on the council to speed de-

fense. He thinks it is a great mistake not to have
a labor man on this committee. He also felt that

Knudsen was not the man to head up this council for,
in his opinion, he has done nothing worthwhile up to
date. Lubin asked the Secretary whom else he should
talk to and the Secretary suggested Corcoran, Cohen
and Felix Frankfurter.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 19. 1940
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Sir Frederick Phillips, accompanied by Messrs. Pinsent and Playfair, called
on me at 12 o'clock noon by appointment. Around 11 o'clock Secretary Morgenthan had
explained to Messrs. Bell, Young and myself the circumstances attending the issuance
of the simultaneous press conferences held at the White House and the Treasury in
which information had this morning been made available in regard to the British pro-

gran of contracts in this country. It was understood that I should make the ticker
reports of such conferences available to Sir Frederick Phillips, but that I could
add no information thereto.

When I showed the visitors the ticker reports Sir Frederick Phillips
immediately insisted that he had understood the Secretary to have given him the message

that the British were free to go ahead with the placing of their contracts, without
any restriction being made that they should merely proceed up to the point of signing
and then await some action on the part of Congress. In answer to Phillips' inquiry,
told him that Secretary Morgenthan and Under Secretary Bell were not available,
acause of schedules involving the Cabinet Meeting and immediate departure thereafter

for New York. I did, however, at my visitors' suggestion, ask Phillip Young to join
our group. Phillips concentrated upon the argument that it is very vital to his
Government that they know the calendar date by which this situation may be cleared

up so that they can actually sign contracts. Young and I argued that as much as it
was possible to give had been embodied in the communications and that there was no
possible way of telling by what date the whole problem could be resolved vis-a-vis

Congress. I promised to speak to the Secretary on this point if I saw him before he

attended the Cabinet Meeting, or to ask Mr. Bell to telephone me back from New York
any message which the Secretary might feel free to let me pass on to Phillips tonight,

particularly if the plans might have crystallised to some further extent at this
afternoon's Cabinet Meeting. It was our belief, however, that there could be no

further helpful discussion of the question before Secretary Morgenthau's return from
New York. Before leaving us at 1 o'clock Phillips asked if he could 888 me again in
the afternoon.

At 5 o'clock this afternoon Phillips returned to my office, accompanied by
Pinsent. I explained to Phillips that I had not seen the Secretary before the Cabinet
Meeting, but had spoken with Mr. Bell along the lines above indicated, and that I
would pass on to him, Phillips, any message which I might receive from the Secretary

before his return tomorrow afternoon. Phillips said there was no use

indiscussing
the contracts
and supplies further
to question Washington of today, in but the morning, that he was and

sure he would be having inquiries from his Government tonight or
would consequently like to see the Secretary again as soon as possible. He did desire
day, however, to go into the assets side of the question with mo.

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-2Phillips reminded me that when he was explaining British assets to the
Secretary he had let it be known that gold holdings of Great Britain, together with
foreign exchange assets in the United States and Canada, totaled $574,000,000. Since
the date on which Phillips gave this estimate, these resources have dwindled further.
Now that the possibility has arisen that a few days or several weeks may be involved
before any definite arrangement is made which will relieve the British of paying cash
for their purchases in this country, Phillips feels that we must consider the very
immediate problem of the cash question.

He reminded me of the British desire to maintain a minimum working balance
of $600,000,000 in gold. The figure has now gone considerably below that level and
this is the one available reserve to be looked to immediately, aside from the

securities which are being liquidated. Phillips explained to me that while a large

portion of the British gold had been transported to and stored in Canada, the supply
there is now nearing exhaustion and there are various problems involved in bringing
more gold to the United States from Australia and South Africa where the remaining

gold holdings of the British are situated. In this connection, Phillips asked

whether it would be possible for the Treasury or the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

to buy gold situated in Australia or South Arrica. I told Phillips that it had been

the consistent policy of the Treasury since the day that the European war broke out
in September 1939 to purchase gold only upon delivery in the United States. I let
him know that various treasuries and central banks in Europe had approached us on

this subject, but that the only gold which we had taken title to outside of the

United States after the outbreak of the war was that French gold which we accepted
delivery of aboard an American cruiser and brought to the United States in the month
of June, 1940. I added, furthermore, that the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
has not bought any gold abroad, although both it and private banks have in a few
cases made advances to central banks against gold in transit to the United States.
Whether this could be done in the present instance was a question. On Phillips'
side, he said there was doubt in his mind as to whether the risk should be attempted
of bringing gold from South Africa in a merchant vessel. He asked, in this connection,
if the American Navy had any vessels in South African waters. I replied that I
believed none was maintained there regularly, although our ships occasionally visited
South African ports. He was obviously interested in rendering a service to the

British similar to that provided the French in transporting one lot of gold by cruiser.
Phillips then raised the question of the British Government acquiring gold
from her allies. He said that he believed his Prime Minister would want some
expression from President Roosevelt as to the propriety of such action before his
Government pursued this point further with the allied governments. In answer to my
inquiry, Phillips confirmed that his Government had already taken up this matter

with the exile governments of Norway, the Netherlands and Belgium. When the proposal
vas made to them that they dispose of their gold to the British Government against
sterling, in order to help finance the common cause, the Norwegians and Dutch officials

to The likewise

insisted that they had certain dollar obligations themselves to meet. They were not

willing
accept
proposition.
Belgians of
refused,
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British, provided an undertaking was made to return it to Belgium at the close of

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hostilities, since this constituted the one reserve of Belgium which has been preserved, and which will be needed for post-war rehabilitation. Phillips did not
mention whether an approach had been made concerning the comparatively small amount

of

Czech gold. That of Poland is all in the hands of the French in Dakar. Denmark's

gold holdings are quite small.

The question of French gold held in Canada was then discussed. Phillips
reminded me that part of this was earmarked directly with the Bank of Canada by the
Bank of France, and that the remainder had been earmarked originally with the Bank
of England, and that the latter had now placed this with the Bank of Canada. The
British do not feel that they should take steps toward "pinching" that French gold
which is with the Bank of Canada in the name of the Bank of England unless and until
the Dominion Government is reconciled to the idea of the Government of Canada, through
the Bank of Canada, taking similar action with respect to that French gold earmarked
directly with the Bank of Canada. Phillips told me that the proposal toward this end
which he had submitted to the Government of Canada last summer after his visit to
Washington had been turned down. He has again taken the matter up with Deputy Minister
of Finance Clark during the latter's visit to Washington several days ago, and is
still waiting some word from Ottawa. He added that another cause for a cautious

policy on the part of the British in this respect was the concern of Purvis lest
contractors in the United States might become excited if the British were taking over
French gold in this hemisphere. He thought this might lead to difficulties in
lacing British orders. Now, however, Phillips feels that the purchasing program

has developed to such a point that there is no longer need for concern on this ground.
On the other hand, there has been a new development in France which gives cause for
pause. That is, with the sentiment in France having become decidedly more pro-British
in recent weeks, there is a question as to whether any step should now be taken through
"pinching" the French gold in Canada which might strongly antagonise the French.
Furthermore, Phillips pointed out that only a part of the French gold is accessible

to the British, that part aside from the stock in Canada being distributed in the

United States, Martinique and Senegal.

With respect to United States dollar securities held by the British, we discussed the efforts of Mr. Gifford to speed up the liquidation thereof, and shared
pleasure at the progress which Gifford has made the first three days of this week,

from which it appears that it will be possible considerably to increase the rate at
which dollar securities have been marketed at New York. Even if this total does,
however, go along at the rate of the first half of this week, or even increases
further, the total proceeds therefrom will be entirely inadequate to meet the cash
requirements of the British. Phillips asked whether there had been any further thought
given to the subject of the Treasury or the R.F.C. taking over these securities.
Pinsent agreed with me that a recent statement by R.F.C. Chairman Jones indicated

that he felt that no loan could properly be made against such securities in the absence
of Congressional action. Pinsent and I also reminded Phillips of recent statements
of Secretary Morgenthau wherein he denied any intention of rendering financial aid
to Great Britain, which might conceivably violate even the spirit of the Johnson Act,
ithout prior approval of Congress.

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-4Phillips then let me know that he had seen Prebisch of the Argentine Financial
Delegation a few days ago and had discussed the proposition which the British have
had up with the Argentines for some time of the latter redeeming the British-owned
railways in Argentina. Phillips believes that the maximum value of such securities
in present market conditions is 145,000,000, or approximately $180,000,000. Various
arrangements have been talked over with the Argentines, but Phillips thought the one
most likely to offer possibilities was one whereby Argentina might borrow around
$100,000,000 from the United States and pay the British in dollars for their securities
and also, I believe, the equity involved. I asked Phillips if it was his understanding
that Prebisch would look to us for this $100,000,000 in addition to the two transactions, one by the American Export Import Bank and the other by our Stabilization
Fund, which are now being consummated. Phillips replied in the affirmative. He
realized that there might be another plan worked out whereby the British would be
reimbursed for their Argentine securities through 4 percent sterling debentures which
would run 60 years. I told Phillips that we have had no recent conversations with
the Argentines on this subject, leaving the field to the British and the Argentines
themselves to cover.

As a next possibility, Phillips brought up the question of direct investments

in the United States. He thought the Department of Commerce estimate thereof was too

high, especially since some of such investments really consist of securities which
have been taken over already by the British Government and have brought the total of
their United States dollar securities up to about $1,000,000,000, which is in excess
of the Department of Commerce estimate. Phillips feels that the marketability of
most of their investments in the United States is small because of the importance of
the connection of the parent concern in England with the affiliates in the United
States. He seemed to favor the idea of borrowing under mortgages covering such

properties, rather than attempting outright sales. In answer to my question, he
said that Gifford had not looked into this possibility, and that some other agent
than Gifford, who is purely a security expert, would probably be selected if any comprehensive effort to dispose of direct investments is undertaken.
Finally Sir Frederick raised the question as to whether immediate and direct
assistance could be obtained from our Stabilization Fund. I explained to him the
simple process which we use in our current and proposed operations with certain
countries. I added, however, that I doubted whether Secretary Morgenthau would feel
that his clearance with the Congressional committees on the Chinese proposition left
him free to carry out a similar transaction with Great Britain, the latter being
definitely a belligerent. Pinsent agreed with me that other statements of the
Secretary might preclude such a possibility. They hoped, however, that I would
broach this subject to the Secretary, since it would be the most prompt and immediate

aethod of providing dollar exchange, if it is at all feasible. I ventured to suggest
that the Secretary might refrain from such action, even though the law might permit
it, now that the big program has been launched of putting the British situation
squarely before Congress. That is, I thought that in view of the statements made
by the President and the Secretaries of State, Treasury and Commerce, there might should be

the risk of damaging the whole British cause here if the Treasury Department

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Sir whole over with the

proceed independently and take the position of anticipating Congressional

now approval. Frederick hoped that I would talk this subject

Secretary, considering the urgency of the British cash position and the arrangement
for the Secretary to let Sir Frederick have his views as early as possible.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHIKCTON, D.C.

19th December 1940.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose tables in the form in

which you asked me for them yesterday afternoon,
showing the order in which we should wish to
place the various orders contained in Programs

Nos.1 and 2. I hope this will give you all
the information which you require.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Hhillips

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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His Majesty's Government have learned

with very deep appreciation of the President's
message conveyed by the Secretary of the Treasury,

that they should proceed at once with the placing
of the orders necessary to fulfil Programs Nos.1
and 2 referred to in the statement handed to
Sir F. Phillips by Mr. Morgenthau on the 17th
December. They are anxious to proceed immediately

in accordance with the President's decision.
The British Purchasing Commission and

British Air Commission have prepared, subject to
confirmation from London, the following notes on

the succession in which they believe it will be
possible to place orders:-

British Embassy,
Washington, D.C.
19th December 1940.

Estimated Monthly Distribution of British Purchasing Mission

Payments in the United States against Existing Commitments and
Programs 1 & 2, as per Schedule entitled "Summary of British Programs

handed by the Secretary of the Treasury to Sir Frederick Phillips,
December 17, 1940.

Millions of U.S. Dollars
After

Total
Total

Balances due on Orders already placed

Program No. 1

Program No. 2

Total

Dec.

Jan.

Feb.

Dec. - Feb.

1940

1941

1941

1940

147

123

Product

1284

156

Capital

17

10

Product

2062

86

Capital

699

35

Product

1225

5

1

1941

426

Feb.
1941

858

14

5

187

470

1592

89

139

263

456

63

59

38

160

1065

Capital

10

-

-

10

-

10

Product

4571

305

405

348

1056

3515

Capital

726

55

92

140

287

439

5297

360

495

488

1543

3954

TOTAL

197

Note: The monthly distribution of payments shown above reflects a partial revision
of the rate of expenditure shown in the November 30th estimates. A complete
revision as of December 31st will be available early in January.

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FIRST GROUP OF ORDERS

(In Millions of U.S. Dollars)
Total of Orders
SHIPS

Estimated Payments

Dec. 1940 - Feb, 1941

Estimated Payments

after Feb, 1941

Product

97

30

67

Capital

9

9

-

106

39

67

Product

620

160

460

Capital

300

75

225

920

235

685

Product

444

70

574

Capital

35

35

-

479

105

574

1161

260

901

344

119

225

579

1126

AIRCRAFT

MUNITIONS

TOTAL

-

Product

Capital

GRAND TOTAL 1505

-

A. SHIPS
New Ships.

This is theTodd scheme for the construction of 60 new
merchant ships, 410 feet long, 9300 tons, 10 knots speed.
Used Ships.

Purchases of used merchant ships at auction.

B. AIRCRAFT

The above covers (a) the placing of orders to complete

the first 14,000 aircraft (already cleared)

(b) the release of orders for 3660
aircraft from existing capacity (clearance pending), and
(e) the creation of capanity for further
production, especially for urgently needed heavy bombers.
C. MUNITIONS

British Types.
This represents the "Army Program Ast required to complete

the equipment of the divisions already formed or forming,
together with Oerlikon guns for merchant shipping anti-sircraft

defense.
American Types.

This represents certain U.S. type material (guns, ammunition
etc.) which are in the "Army Program A.

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SECOND GROUP OF ORDERS

(In Millions of U.S. Dollars)

Estimated Payments

Total of Orders Dec. 1940 - Feb, 1941

Estimated Payments

after Feb. 1941

AIRCRAFT

Product

200

50

150

Capital

-

-

-

200

50

150

Product

100

30

70

Capital

15

4

115

34

81

Product

300

80

220

Capital

15

4

11

84

251

MINITIONS
11

TOTAL

GRAND TOTAL

-515

D. AIRCRAFT

These orders cover the continued exployment of existing
capacity from April to June 1942.
E.

ITIONS

The above covers orders still to be placed to complete
our program for 5000 MS American Type Gruiser Tanks.

200

THIRD GROUP OF ORDERS

(Millions of U.S. Dollars)
Total of

Estimated Payments
Dec.1940 - Feb.1941

Estimated Payment

650
150

140

510

75

75

800

215

585

Product

600

130

Capital

200

75

470
125

800

205

595

Product

576

20

556

Capital

-

Orders
AIRCRAFT

Product

Capital

MUNITIONS

after Feb. 1941

MISCELLANEOUS

-

576

20

556

Product

1826

1536

Capital

350

290
150

440

1736

TOTAL

GRAND TOTAL 2176

200

F. AIRCRAFT

The above covers (a) the British share in new
plants now being created by the U.S. Army.
(b) orders to be placed from

new British capacity referred to in the first group
of orders:paragraph B (c).

G. MUNITIONS

The above covers the 10 Division scheme (Army

Program B) exclusive of certain additional items still
under consideration.

H. MISCELLANEOUS

The above covers steel and miscellaneous purchases.

These are in the nature of current supplies which are
ordered on running contracts, not involving large forward
commitments.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

201

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 19. 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

Mr. Gifford telephoned me from New York at 10:30 this morning. He stated that

yesterday he consummated one single transaction for a total of between $1,250,000
and $1,500,000. This involved the sale of its own stock to an issuing company and

took place after a revival of a heretofore unsuccessful effort to make the deal.
Mr. Gifford let me know further that another transaction is under way envisaging a
disbribution operation through Smith Barney, amounting to about $2,500,000. This
second deal is contingent upon the state of today's New York stock market. If the

market recedes beyond a certain point, and it was noted that the opening was weak,
Smith Barney may withdraw from the arrangement under the privilege which they have.
Gifford telephoned me these two items to let us know that he is making a real effort

to speed up transactions, and is following insofar as possible the lines which he
thought the Treasury desired that he pursue.

December 20, 1940

Late yesterday afternoon Mr. Gifford tried to reach me by telephone, but I was
in a meeting. Following that, Pinsent told me when calling here with Sir Frederick

Phillips that Gifford had asked him to communicate to me the message which he had

hoped to give directly, that is, that the $2,500,000 deal (which Gifford had men-

tioned to me and which is described above) had been consummated and will appear in

the report covering yesterday's transactions. Thus there will be included in the

sales of December 18 an item amounting to $1,250,000 to $1,500,000, and in the
report of December 19 this other item of about $2,500,000.

BMR.

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PLAIN

JR

London

Dated DECEMBER 19, 1940

REC'D 2:05 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

4144, 19th.

The President's "lend our neighbor the hose pipe"
declaration at his press conference was reported in

yesterday's press but not until this morning did
journalists have time to catch their breath and comment

on the proposals. The scheme is universally praised,
nearly all comments Emphasizing the fact that the
statement revealed a determined Effort for speeding
up production as the primary problem Eclipsing any
technical considerations of finance or foreign Exchange.
The TIMES diplomatic correspondent refers to the statement
as "one of the most important suggestions to COME across.

the Atlantic since war began" and states that "seldom
can a few words have offered the prospect of so complete

a change in a great and vital problem". This writer
also asserts that "in London it is thought that hardly
less important than Mr. ROOSEVELT'S statement is the
one made at about the same time on Tuesday by Mr. Cordril

Hull on the great task that faces Great Britain during
the

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the next few months". The TIMES long editorial on the
subject points out that America realizes that loans on
the scale needed would simply create difficulties after
this war similar to those which helped to wreck the world

after the last war, and that Britain could only repry by
increasing exports to the United States which would

stimulate higher tcriffs to protect American industry and
Employment. This Editorial also points out that Britain
has freely made rll SECRET and technical information
available to the American authorities and that C
distinguished American soldier hrs described these

facilities rs worth mony millions of dollars; the Editorial
contains C warning the t the suggestions must be submitted

to Congress and suggests the verious types of opposition

it will doubtless meet but odds that by many it will be
hailed CS the "first gleam of E conomic senity in C world

bEdEvillEd by finance" and that there will be relief that
at the End of the war the "world may be spared the
nightmare of unpryable war debts and reparation which
after 1918 helped to produce such conditions C made social

unrest, Hitlerism and war almost inevitable." This
Editorial urges that the British Government should make it
clear that no repayment is expected of the advances made
to GREECE and of similar advences.
The

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-3- #4144, December 19, from London.
The MANCHESTER GUARDIAN, like the DAILY TELEGRAPH,

emphasizes that the President's statement reveals that he

is alive to the importance of increasing American
production. "As WE have found production at war speed
cannot be secured by peace-time hours of labour and

methods of orgenization and the United States is making
the SOME discovery."

The NEWS Chronicle stresses the same point in its

Editorial referring to Secretary Hull's Emphasis on the
need of increasing the flow of from to Britain. The
FINANCIAL PRESS naturally stresses the foreign Exchange

implications. The FINANCIAL TIMES, for example, stating
"whether intentionally or not the plan has the adventage

of avoiding pitfills inseparable from international lorns
and credits and it effectually bypasses the difficult
problem of foreign Exchange." This Editorial concludes
that the scheme foreshadows EXtEndEd Economic collaboration

and "may later adumbrate the appearance of n new order of a

very different type from the slevery system Envisaged by
Hitler." The FINANCIAL NEWS points out that it is
reasonable to assume that the scheme can well provide a

"useful possible wor cushion for British industry" C.S well
na avoiding the confusion crising from an entanglement of
dollar debts. "Responsible American statesmen do not of
course doubt the Efficc.cy of gold as international currency
but

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but they have long recognized that further considerable
additions to a redundent gold stock SERVES merely to

ensure that ultimately the United States will suffer the
fate of Midns." This Editorinl Ends with C. warning similar
to those contained in the comments of the DAILY TELEGRAPH
and the MANCHESTER GUARDIAN that the United States cannot

EXERT its full weight EXCEPT with a reduction in living
standards and ASSUMES that the DEfEnCE Commission must be

given more powers in due course. The favorite subject of
today's cartoons is the presentation of the President CS
Santa Claus. In one COSE (the DAILY EXPRESS) Britnin's

stocking hangs on the fireplace of C bomb-shattered room

with 0 note "thanks a million--sorry I couldn't wait--I'm
on duty." In another CASE (DAILY HERALD) Uncle Sam asks

"can WE fford to give all that to Britain" and Santa Claus
replies "can WE offord not to?" Please give n copy of
this telegrom to Trensury.
JOHNSON
CSB

31

BECEIAED

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THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF WAR
WASHINGTON

4850

December 19th, 1940.

OFFICE

My dear Henry:

I acknowledge with thanks receipt of
your letter of December 9th, enclosing two communications from Air Commodore Slessor, relating respective-

ly to the British operational aircraft and pilot situa-

tion and Air Commodore Slessor's impressions of the
United States Air Production Programme.

The confidential nature of this material
has been noted and it will be held in the appropriate
files.
Sincerely yours,

RLPP.U
Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
The Secretary of the Treasury.

207
THE SECRETARY OF STATE
WASHINGTON

December 19, 1940

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I wish to thank you for your kindness in sending
me enclosed in your letter of December eighteenth the

report on the British air force. Your courtesy in
making it available to me is appreciated.
Sincerely yours,

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 19, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Wiley

Re: Baron Wolfgang zu Putlitz.
Supplementing my memorandum of December 4, the FBI now reports

that Baron Putlitz arrived in the United States on June 20, 1940,
from England, and quotes him as stating that he had been in the
German Diplomatic Service for many years, had served with Von Ribbentrop in London, and was last stationed in The Netherlands.
Because he was anti-Nazi and was suspected of un-German activities
and sympethies, he had been kept under surveillance for several
years by the Gestapo. In October, 1939 he fled from the Hague to
England by private plane, where he claims he furnished valuable

information, particularly to Van Sittart. Though he offered his

services to the British Government he was not used, and when
Churchill came to power conditions in England became impossible
for any German. He was then given a visa for Jamaica.

He gave the name of Lottie Lehman as his best friend in the
United States, where he was permitted to remain thirty days enroute to Kingston. He told FBI various anecdotes: For example,
when he was working with Von Ribbentrop in London he knew a man

who was receiving 650 a month from Von Ribbentrop for the sole
purpose of contacting Chamberlain's brother-in-law. This stoolpigeon, an Englishman, was a house-guest practically every weekend in Scotland, where the innermost secrets of the Chamberlain
government were freely discussed. This sort of thing stopped
abruptly when Churchill took over the government.

Since the British did not think it was worth while to make
use of his services, I see no special reason from his record
why we should. His personal peculiarities, too, would suggest
that it might be better for him to remain in Jamaica.

and

209

m w ley gave
this to the seing
after the 9:30

meeting this am

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210

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 4, 1940
TO

FROM

Mrs. Klotz
Mr. Wiley

I return herewith the correspondence regarding Baron Wolfgang

zu Putlitz.

Within a day or so I expect to receive reports from several
sources on him. It appears that he is very well known to the
State Department, where views regarding his admission to the

United States are divided. In any event, should he be given a
quota visa at Jamaica, he would not become eligible for a quota
number for some three months, so the matter is not urgent.

As soon as further information is received I shall send it
to you.

dow

Air Mail.

211

SECRET AND PERSONAL.

29th November, 1940.

Dear Mr. Morgenthau,

Concerning Baron Wolfgang zu Putlitz, I enclose a copy of a

letter I have sent by this mail to Lord Lothian. It is selfexplanatory. He only made two copies of the typescript, one
which I had sent for him to the New York publishing firm and
one for himself. He is now busy typing a copy for you, which
I will send through Lord Lothian.
With best wishes,

Yours very sincerely,

Ar Cubaris

The Hon. Henry Morgenthau, J.R.

Secretary of the Treasury
WASHINGTON, D.C.

212

Air Mail.

29th November, 1940.

secret and Personal.
Dear Lord Lothian,

six months ago I received here Baron Wolfgang zu Putlits and

valet Friedloe Wilhelm Schneider, at the request of His
his uajesty's Government. I was asked to look after then and to the intern
separately as the Baron had rendered great services to
them Government. We have a military hill station above Kingston
British
small
allotted for their
use. ItHe
is ahas
lonely
and to
and
a life
forhouse
a manwas
of considerable
culture.
no one
miserable to and nothing to do. During the six months he has written a

book talk - an autobiographical criticism of the Nazi regime. I sent it
recently for him/to a New York firm:Greystone Press, Inc.,
East 49th Street
New York

if they publish it I am confident it will have A great sale.
and is only forty years of age and in my view may play a big

Putlitz in the post War world. He is a friend of Sir Robert Vansittar

and part is well known is many diplomatic circles. He mentions as people
who know all about him three names:Michael Huxley, British Embassy, Washington; Hugh S. Cumming, Jr.
State Department, Washington; Walton Butterworth, American Embassy,
London.

During the recent visit of Mr. Henry Morgenthan to Jemaica I

the matter to him and expressed the opinion that keeping was a

mentioned such a man rotting in idleness and eating his London heart out that here he might be

great mistake. I have recently suggested to office there.

back to do Intelligence Work under the Foreign
sent been received. Mr. Morgenthau before leaving the Jamaica bool

No reply has to yet that I might send a copy of the typescript States of Governe

suggested me and he would consider whether United and is

to him through you of his services. Putlitz has only one copy it is ready

ment now busy could typing make another use hich I will send to you as soon AB

It will take about a fortnight.

if think fit, you might care to speak this to letter. Mr.
Morgenthau Meanwhile on the you subject. I have sent him a copy of

with best wishes,

Yours very sincerely,

An
entry into the United States a under long the
P.S. quota The has idea been of enquired obtaining into, but as you know there is waiting

list and it may take years. Am

The Most H.B.M. Hon. Ambassador The Marquess Extraordinary of Lothian and Plenipotentiary

British Embassy

WASHINGTON, D.C.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
communicy

DATE December 19. 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

33,000
53,000

In the open market, sterling was quoted at 4.03-3/4 throughout the day.
Transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

L 4,000
L 2,000

Following yesterday's decline to .2318, the Swiss franc had a steadier tone
today. The final rate for that currency was .2320.
Closing quotations for the other currencies were:
Canadian dollar

13-5/16% discount

Swedish krona

Brazilian milreis (free)

.2385
.4005
.0505
.2360
.0505

Mexican peso
Cuban peso

8-1/2% discount

Reichemark

Lira

Argentine peso (free)

.2070

There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported that the Bank of Canada
shipped $3,030,000 in gold from Canada to the Federal for account of the Government
of Canada, for sale to the New York Assay Office.
The Bombay gold and silver prices were both unchanged at the equivalents
of $33.82 and 43.01$ respectively.

The prices fixed in London for spot and forward silver were also unchanged
at 23d and 22-15/16d. The dollar equivalents were 41.76$ and 41.65
34-3/44.

Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35$.

We made two purchases of silver totaling 100,000 ounces under the Silver
Purchase Act, both of which consisted of new production from foreign countries, for
forward delivery.

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The Federal Reserve Bank's report of December 11, listing deposits of banks
in Asia with the New York agencies of Japanese banks, showed that such deposits
totaled $101,895,000, an increase of $1,440,000 since December 4. As usual, nearly
all of the change in deposits took place on the books of the Yokohaza Specie Bank's

New York agency. The latter's principal dollar liabilities to and dollar claims on
Japanese banks in Asia stood as follows on December 11:

Liabilities: Deposits for Japan & Manchuria
Deposits for China

December 11

Change from Dec. 4

$53,361,000
36,328,000

+ $2,969,000

$40,269,000
17,891,000

+ 2,703,000

- 597,000
: U.S. Treas. bills, comm. paper, etc. 31,187,000 + 761,000

Claims

: Loans

: Other - mainly Jap. import bills

538,000

The last three categories refer almost entirely to Japanese banks in Japan and
Manchuria. The rise in deposits for account of such banks mainly reflects an increase
in loans made by the New York agency.

CONFIDENTIAL

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Cho

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

Miss

DATE

For

December 19. 1940

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Mr. Cochran

FROM

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in

the account of the Credito Italiano, New York, maintained with the Chase National
Bank, New York.
Date

December 19

Account Credited

Amount Credited

Credito Italiano, N. Y.,
for account of Credito
Italiano, Rome

XMR.

$ 214,400

Received From

Chase National Bank,

N. Y., by order of
Sveriges Riksbank,
Stockholm

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
Miss

DATE December 19, 1940

for
Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Cochran

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in
the account of the Banco di Napoli Trust Co., New York, maintained with the
National City Bank, New York,
Date

December 18

Amount Debited
$ 300,000

BMW.

Paid To

Federal Reserve Bank of

New York, for account of
Banco di Napoli Trust Co., N.Y.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 19. 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in
the account of the Deutsche Golddi skontbank, Berlin, maintained with the Chase
National Bank, New York.
Date

December 18

Amount Debited
$ 67,560

Paid To

Irving Trust Co., N.Y., for

account of Carl Marks and Co.

HMP

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218

The Hear York Times
Times Square
December 19, 1940.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

This is just to tell you that I
shall be at the Treasury on Monday

morning at 9, ready for business.
My temporary address will be the
Hay-Adams, beginning Sunday night.

As I told you at lunch last
Saturday, you can count on my full

devotion in this new work. I am
proud of the opportunity to be of
use to you, and I am deeply grateful.
Faithfully yours,

Furning Kuhn I.
The Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D.C.

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reply 1-4-41

December 19, 1940

Ny dear Mr. President:
The "informal committee to represent the American Govern-

ment in its contacts with the interested foreign governments
in all matters relating to the purchase of war materials in
the United States", which you appointed on December 6. 1939,

has been forced to extend the scope of its work due to the our-

rent international situation.

Originally established to service the British and French
purchasing missions, this Committee today is not only aiding
and closely supervising the British programs, but also helping
the Government of the Netherlands and other British allies, as
well as China and the countries of Latin America. Faced at the
outset only with the necessity of arranging for friendly foreign
purchasers to acquire supplies from surplus stocks, it now has
the infinitely more complex task of fitting foreign procurement
into our own defense program with its priorities and its almost
complete absorption of our productive capacity.

This Committee is constantly in touch with the British
Purchasing Commission and has been instrumental in working out

detailed programs for the procurement of aircraft, tanks, and
ordnance material. To a large extent, it has been the means
whereby your policies in dealing with the British have been
implemented and followed up.

To give the greatest possible assistance to the British
programs and still prevent conflicts with our own defense
effort, a alearance procedure has been established through

this Cammittee for all substantial British orders. This pro-

cedure bridges the gap between the British Purchasing Commission
and the Var and Navy Departments, the Advisory Commission to the
Council of National Defense, the State Department, the Reconstrue-

tion Finance Corporation, and the Administrator of Export Control.
Every request for clearance is processed by this Committee with
these departments and a single coordinated reply is furnished

to the British.

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-2In addition, the Committee has been instrumental in bringing the fighting experience of British technicians and British
weapons to the notice of United States experts; in working out
standardised arms, ammition, and material of MAIL in developing ways and means of increasing production; in securing all
kinds of information from the British for interested United
States Government agencies; and in arranging for the financing
of new facilities to be used by both the British Government and
the United States Government.

To assist these United States Government agencies in studying the impact of the British purchases on our economy, statistical surveys and reports have been secured from the British
Purchasing Commission covering value of orders placed, value of
orders to be placed, capital commitments made and to be made,
each requirements, and financial resources.

The same treatment and assistance accorded the British is
also being given to the Netherlands Purchasing Commission which
has the second largest foreign purchasing program. Here, however, a frequent check is made with the State Department through

Assistant Secretary Berle to be sure that these purchases are
consistent with our foreign policy. with the development of our
our defense program and the expansion of British orders, 11 is
becoming increasingly difficult to fit the Datah requirements
into our productive capacity and many of their requests have had
to be denied.

Even greater difficulty has been encountered in arranging
for the placing of orders by Latin American countries. The
Advisery Commission to the Beuncil of National Defense has
apparently given little beed to the requirements of foreign
buyers other than the British. In most instances it has been

impossible to find sources of supply which are free to fill

Latin American requirements within a reasonable period. The
Maison Committee is working closely with Mr. Welson Rocksfeller
and the State Department is - attempt to selve this problem

which is making it extremely difficult to give Entin America
any tangible evidence of the United States Rgood neighbor policy
in the matter of war supplies.
The Committee has also received representatives of Skins,
Broose, Nervey. Finland. Belgium, Partigal, Turkey, Iron, Ireq.
Thailand, Eire, Section, and Eassis. In every ease the State
Department has cooperated closely with the Maison Committee.

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-3The contacts which the Committee has established with
every foreign government purchasing war supplies in the United
States, and the clearance procedures which it has set up. have
developed an important system of centrols over foreign purchas-

ing. For the first time, it is nav possible to guide foreign

purchasing from the standpoint of foreign policy, commite
defense, and the purchaser's *ability to pay* before any attempt
is made to ascertain the availability of production capacity.
In addition. the Committee is surveying all foreign orders for
var supplies already placed in the United States.
Faithfully yours,
(SgL.) H. Morgeather, Jr.

The President,
The White House.

PX:bj
Copyright

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PARAPHRASE

CONFIDENTIAL

The following is the substance of a confidential
telegram of December 19, 1940, from the American Con-

sulate General at Singapore:
The Embassy has been informed in confidence from

an official source that a British officer who has
recently completed a trip over the Yunnan-Burma high-

way states that because of extra bridges, the present
width and improvements on the road and the availability

of coolies to make repairs, the likelihood of a complete
break in traffic by either weather or accident is

negligible. It is also stated that to interrupt traffic
by artificial landslides, it would be necessary to bomb
one spot practically daily and systematically.

CONFIDENTIAL
Paraphrase of Code Radiogram
Received as the War Department
at 10.19 P.M., December 19, 1940

223

London, filed 19:30, December 19, 1940.
1. During daylight hours of Wednesday, December 18,
15 Lockhood Hudsons of the Coastal Command bombed the Bergen-Oele

railroad. A direct hit on Hyset (1) was observed. The Maas Estuary
in Helland, was mined. The proceding night eight medium bombers
attached ports and aircrease in France and Belgium and nine heavy
bembers attacked Mannhaim.

2. During the night of December 18-19 enemy air activity

was slight. Probably this is partially explained by weather conditions.
on the Continent, but in the past large seale operations by long range
bembers have taken place under more adverse weather conditions.
3. On December 17 four British bembers were missing and
one enemy plane was destroyed.

4. In the Greek theater the ecastal town of Qepare (9)
has been occupied and Tepeleni has been subjected to artillery fire.
Weather conditions have limited operations.

5. British planes reported nine large vessels at Durasse
on the 16th of December.

6. 0a December 17, the British took Shefferson, Musaid (1)
and sids Omar in the Egyptian theater. AS Capusso and Selum, 10

Italian fighter planes (First C.R. 48) were captured intact. On the
night of December 16-17, British fighter planes harassed the retreat-

ing Italian troops at Tebruk, inflicting heavy lesses, a mater transport
and the city of Bardia were also basibed.

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7. On December 16, a South African Brigado made a suecessful attack on E1 Wak in Kenya.

8. It was reported by sources in Yugoalavia that an Albanian
Gramos battalien has been disarmed by the Italians. This battalien was

attached to the Italian Ferrara Division (23rd) and it is believed that
all other Albanian troops will also be disarmed. Desertions of Albanians
to the mountain regions are frequently reported.
9. On December 15, photographs were made of practically all
of the Channel Coast from Belle Isle to St. Masaire and almost no land
or shipping activity was observed. Twenty-nine barges and three coastal
vessels, which appeared to be unloaded, were observed at Boulegne.

Shipping activity at Brest appears to be primarily naval, with patrol
vessels and mine sweepers being observed. The photographs reveal that

there has been only a minor redistribution of craft since December 10.
10. During high speed trials on December 17, the British
1350-ten destroyer ACHERON sank after an explosion from an unknown cause.

There were a - survivors.

11. It was stated in reports from Tangier that white troops had
replaced a thousand Moors who were withdrawn because of their discontent

with the long mobilisation and the shortage of food. In all probability
white troops will replace other Moorish units.
LEE

Distributions

Military Aide to the President
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Asst. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff

War Plans Division

Office of Naval Intelligence

AC-2

G-3, 1

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RESTRICTED

M.I.D., W.D.
December 19, 1940.

No. 274

SITUATION REPORT

12:00 M.

This military situation report is issued by the Military
Intelligence Division, General Staff. In view of the occasional
inclusion of political information and of opinion it is classified
as Restricted.

I.

Western Theater of War.

1. Air Force Operations.
There was no important German air activity over Eng-

land in daylight yesterday or last night. According to press re-

ports heavy aerial fighting is in progress over London today.

The R.A.F. attacked Mannheim for the third success-

ive night.

II.

Greek Theater of War.

The Greeks continued their pressure but there seems to

have been little change in the situation. Despite bad weather,
there was minor air activity by both sides against troop concentrations.

III. Mediterranean and African Theaters of War.
1. Operations continue in the Bardia area. Bardia
appears to be encircled by the British, and its fall is believed
to be only a question of time.
The British report a successful road on E1 Wak (E1
Uach) which is in the Jubaland territory near the Kenya border.

2. Reports on air activity in the Egyptian-Libyan theater are inconclusive.
There were sporadic air raids in East Africa, including another Italian attack on Port Sudan.
Last night the R.A.F. operated over northern Italy
in limited force, perhaps two squadrons, attacking factories at

Milan and docks and the airdrome at Genoa.
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December 19, 1940
MEMORANDUM
TO:

The Secretary

FROM: Mr. Young

Re: Preliminary Report on West Coast Aluminum
Fabricating Capacity

It appears that the West Coast inspection trip started

everyone in town worrying about the aluminum situation, for
when we asked the Aluminum Section of the Advisory Commission
for West Coast information they threw up their hands with
horror and said that they had been deluged with work in the
last two weeks and begged us not to insist on detailed information unless we were prepared to wait a week or ten days. They
seemed to be the only people having anything like a complete
picture, for neither the Reconstruction Finance Corporation,
Department of Commerce, War Department nor Navy Department has

anything that is specific.

We gather that it 18 only recently that the Aluminum
Section of the Defense Commission has really begun to get
complete data on fabricating capacity. Heretofore there have
been a good many press releases on how the "poundage" of aluminum
capacity is great enough to meet our needs, but I think it is
only now that they are beginning to wake up to the necessi ty
for an intensive analysis for the various major types of
fabricating capacity which will be required to meet the needs
of the various aircraft programs.

At this point the following is all the information we

have been able to collect on the West Coast situation:

1. The only ingot production on the West Coast will be

the new Aluminum Company plant at Vancouver, Washing-

ton, which has a present capacity of about 60,000,000
pounds per year which will be increased to about
150,000,000 pounds by June, 1941. The bulk of this
production will probably have to be shipped to the

Middle West or to the East for fabrication.

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2. The Aluminum Company has forging capacity at Los
Angeles which is to be increased in January, 1941.

No information is available at the moment as to the

percentage of West Coast forging requirements which

this plant will be able to cover.

3. The Aluminum Company also has some capacity for

producing extrusions at the Los Angeles plant, but
probably not a very substantial portion of West
Coast requirements.

4. There is a small amount of independent casting
capacity in the Los Angeles area, but probably

relatively small in relation to requirements.
5. There is no capacity for the production of bars,
rods, and sheets on the West Coast now nor does it
seem that any is contemplated. All of this material
required by the West Coast aircraft industry must

come from middle western or eastern plants.

6. The Defense Commission will be able to tell us
shortly:

a. The percentage of the potential ingot output

at the Vancouver plant which can be fabricated

on the West Coast.

b. The percentage of West Coast requirements
which can be produced by plants in the area.

C. Whether there is any serious planning at the
present for bar, rod, or sheet capacity on
the West Coast.

Ry.

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STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
DELIVERIES OF AIRPLANES, BY PURCHASERS AND BY TYPES OF PLANES

January 1 - December 7. 1940
Other

Bonbers

Pursui to

Trainers

military
planes

Commercial

planes

Total

TOTAL ALL PURCHASERS

Jan. 1 July 6
July 7 July 20

July 21 Aug. 3
Aug. 4 - Aug. 17
Aug. 18 Aug. 31
Sept. 1- Sept. 14
Sept. 15 Sept. 28
Sept. 29 Oct. 12
Oct. 13 27
- Oct. 26 9
Oct.
Nov.

Nov. 10 Nov. 23
Nov. 24 Dec. 7
Subtotal July 7 - Dec. 7
Total Jan. 1 Dec. 7

589
63

108

946

630

96

71

420

2,693

40

276
346
120
337
300

16

104

28

38

463

1,052

116

206

77

389

64

419

50

184

305

133

159

367

118

179

10

37

405

1,001

1,664

86

503

3,717

1,631

2,610

194

923

6,410

50

532

65

21

60

ARMY

Jan. 1 July 6
July 7 July 20
July 21 Aug. 3
Aug. Aug. 17

Aug. 18 Aug. 31
Sept. 1- Sept. 14
Sept. 15 Sept. 25
Sept. 29 Oct. 12
Oct. 13 Oct. 26
Oct. 27 Nov.
Nov. 10 Nov. 23
Nov. 24 Dec. 7
Subtotal July 7 Dec. 7
Total Jan. 1 - Dec. 7

34

681
91

129

40

29

82

119

38

83

135

16

78

52

87

34

86

124

14

92

112

10

96

110

68

264

838

16

1,186

102

314

1,370

81

1,867

145

NAVY
92

42

18

Aug. 4 Aug. 17
Aug. 18 Aug. 31
Sept. 1- Sept. 14
Sept. 15 Sept. 28
Sept. 29 Oct. 12

18
31
6

26
8

Oct. 27 13 - Nov. Oct. 26

14

Nov.
Nov. 10
24 Nov.23
Dec. 7

10

13

23

11

26

43

52

30

7

Subtotal July 7 Dec. 7
Total Jan. 1 - Dec. 7

176

39

3

Jan. 1 July 6
July
I. July
July 21
Aug.20
3

52

10

78

70

56

209

68

403

112

59

301

107

579

500

364

203

BRITISH EMPIRE AND FRANCE*

Jan. 1 July 6
July 7 - July 20
July 21 Aug. 3
Aug. 4 Aug. 17
Aug. 18 Aug. 31

Sept. Sept. 14

Sept. 15 Sept. 28
Sept. 29 Oct. 12
Oct. 13 Oct. 26
27 Nov. 9

10

143

111
85

25

at

39

81

11

13

124

69
21

13

137

103

126

Oct. Nov.10 Nov. 23

47

152

so

26

1,231

496

36

2,330

119

410

737

296

614

293

796

998

13

193

2

Nov. 24 Dec. 7
Subtotal July 7 Dec. 7
Total Jan. 1 Dec. 7

1,099
118

17

OTHER

July 7 - July 20
July 21 Aug.
Aug. 4- Aug. 17
Aug. 18 Aug. 31
Sept. 1- Sept. 14
Sept. 15 Sept. 28
Sept. 29 Oct. 12

99

120

47

38

22

10

33

65

29

67

324

477

697

42

260

443

867

1,634

2

Total Jan. 1 - Dec. 7

119

61

Oct. Oct. 27 13 Oct. 26 Nov. 9

Nov. 10 Nov. 23
Nov. 24 Dec. 7
Subtotal July 7 - Dec. 7

2

Jan. 1 July 6

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics
Deliveries under French contracts were made up to June 30, 1940,

December 19, 1940

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

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ROYAL GREEK LEGATION
WASHINGTON

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229
MEMORANDUM

CONFIDENTIAL FOR MR. MORGENTHAU

The reasons for which the Greek Government insist

on securing P. 40 airplanes are clear. Today we confront
a great power well equipped with a strong and powerful
air force, while tomorrow we might have to confront another

still stronger and more powerful; therefore, our present
air force must urgently be strengthened with more modern

and effective planes. Defiance planes are unweildy for

pursuit purposes, slow in taking off, two seaters, consequently do not fill the real purpose of our needs. That
is why these latter are no longer used by Great Britain.

Washington, D. C.
December 19, 1940.

Received 4.25 P.M. the 20th 1940.

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December 20, 1940
4:02 p.m.

Sen. Robert
Wagner:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

How are you?

W:

Pretty good.

H.M.Jr:

Where are you?

W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

I'm in Washington.
Oh, for heaven sakes.

I was on a little cruise and I landed at the

Virgin Islands and saw the spot where you
did your swimming.

H.M.Jr:

(Laughs).

W:

(Laughs). It was a nice little spot too.

H.M.Jr:,

Did you go in?

W:

I didn't go in, no. We didn't have enough
time.

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Oh, it's beautiful there.
Yes. How long did you stay - you had a rest
there too, didn't you?
Two days.

Oh, yeah. Well, it's a great place to be.
Well, I'd like to stay there two weeks.
So would I some time or other.

of all those places I think that's the most
attractive.

That is, yes. If there are any - well, of

course the climate is wonderful and all that

but I went around those slums - how those poor

people live and I think it's distressing.

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-2H.M.Jr:

Did they tell you I walked all through those?

W:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

I walked all through those.

W:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:
W:

Did they tell you?

Yes, they did. Well, I didn't have time
enough. I had to take the car, but it's sad

and I don't know what you can do about it.
You know - right away.
H.M.Jr:
W:

Yeah.

Well, Henry, the reason I called is: Ed Foley
called the office I think it was yesterday
that you wanted to sit down with me sometime.

H.M.Jr:

That's right.

W:

When did you intend that to be?

H.M.Jr:
W:

Well, at your convenience.
Well, I mean how soon because I was leaving

again tomorrow noon and, you know, Christmas
is on and

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

I know.

Is the first of the year too late?
Well, I tell you, Bob, it's something on bank
legislation and I did what you always tell me
to do - I spoke to Carter yesterday and he's

all for it. Some special kind of legislation
I want.

W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

Yes.

And he wants us to prepare - work on a bill
for him.
I see.

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-3H.M.Jr:

But I wanted to find out, naturally, how you
felt and try to get your support also.

W:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Now that's what it 18.

W:

Well, then it's got a little time hasn't it,
I mean, as long as he's got it in charge.

H.M.Jr:

W:

Oh, yes. Well, you know you always ask me
when I come to see you - have you seen Carter

Yeah. Well, that's all right. Yes, we've

got to humor him a little bit. He annoyed a
few Senators this last time at our China

conference - they told me afterwards, but he
doesn't mean - he gets impatient, you know.

H:M.Jr:

Well, he's all right on this and this thing

W:

Well, that's all right with me.

H.M.Jr:

Is it all right with you?

W:

Yes, absolutely.

H.M.Jr:
W:

will

Well, then, why not let's leave it until
after the first of the year.
Yeah, I believe it'11 go until after the first

H.M.Jr:

Would you have someone call me when you come

W:

Yeah. All right.

H.M.Jr:

back? I need about an hour.

1'11 need about an hour but I wanted to tell
you because without your help I can't get
anywhere.

W:

Yeah. All right, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

W:

All right. Good-bye.

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December 20, 1940
4:35 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Wallace
Murray:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Murray.

M:

Yes, Mr. Morgenthau.

H.M.Jr:

How-do-you-do. I'm calling you because I
find that Mr. Welles has gone home.

Mr.
- well, I don't know - Depasta, the
Minister-Counselor
M:

H.M.Jr:

Depasta, I think his name is.
Depasta. Well, he was here and he gave me a
memorandum which I let him read me. It was
some more stuff on these Greek planes. I
said, I have no comment that you and Mr. Welles

are handling this thing until they can find out
what's straight. I said it's gotten beyond me.

M:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

So he said, won't you make any suggestion.

I said absolutely none and I said, the only
suggestion I do make is please give a copy
of what you've given to me to either Mr. Welles
or Mr. Murray. So I made absolutely no comment
of any kind other than that he should walk it
over to you.

M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

All right. Now I take it that - of course, we
haven't - I only heard indirectly that there
was something in the works. I take it that
he's bringing a second communication around
saying that they still want the P-40's. I
presume that's what it is. Is that it?
When you boil it all down, that's what it is.
That's what it is. Well, I had a talk with

Mr. Philip Young, who I presume has talked with
you meanwhile or will do so, giving some

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suggestions which we are going to - we've

already wired our Minister in Athens to take

a hand in this thing to try to clear it up

H.M.Jr:

and I have a feeling, Mr. Morgenthau, if we
can safely say that there would be a delay
in any case in this P-40, in the delivery of it,
much less in the transportation of it and we
can bear down on that point, I told Mr. Young
that I thought we could break the Greek
resistance and have them look at this thing
reasonably and I think they are being unreasonable.
Well, I personally think that they are being
very unreasonable considering the fact that
England has over 400 planes there now fighting

M:

their battle.
That 18 subject to a little qualification.

She is stated to have 400 planes assisting
Greece. The Greeks claim that the actual
number there in Greece - permanently there is
of course a very much smaller number, but

that's a detail. But in any case I think the

important point is that here are planes in

hand in Egypt that can be flown to Greece,
the spare parts are available - the P-40 spare

parts would not be available - and the British

are willing to wait for the later delivery

which, I take it, may be June whereas they can
get these planes right now. And so that is
the line we are taking and the line we have
instructed our Minister in Athens to take and

I have a feeling that it will - and further-

more, I have talked both with the Counselor
of the British Embassy and he has talked with
the Purchasing Commission people here, Mr.

Morris Wilson, and I think really we can bear
down on them and get this thing cleared up.
I can assure you that we are bringing - taking
every pressure that we can from this end to
do it.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I'm glad because I personally think
that that is the angle to take and I agree
with you. I think the Greeks are being very
unreasonable.

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-3M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

And I even - I think I might just give you
the word that the British even think that the
Greeks are trying to play both ends against
the middle and get planes out of both of us.
It wouldn't surprise me.
And they want both the P-40's and the

of getting P-40's when they probably can't fly
them and then they will use the British and
their Defiance planes for the actual work.
It wouldn't surprise me - I've been in Greece.
(Laughs). Your father has also.
Well, I've. been there too.
(Laughs). If you get a chance to talk to Mr. Young
today he will tell you a great deal more. I
won't bother you with telling you what I said
to him but I think that whenever you have a chance
to talk with him you'll see that I think we've
got the answer and I think the answer is that
at the time we cannot assure them that these
planes will be available immediately and
furthermore Mr. Young tells me that he has
not ever assured the Minister that they would
be ready immediately. Now I think there is the

answer to the whole question if I can with all
assurance say that Mr. Young or you or nobody
has ever told the Minister they could have
these planes at once.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you can go further: you can say that
nobody in the Treasury ever told them that they
could have them at all, which is the truth.

M:

(Laughs). Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

I sent a written report saying that to Mr. Hull.

M:

I don't know whether you saw it or not.

Yeah, I did. I just saw it. It got out of

my hands and went back to you before I had a

chance to finish it. I wanted to read that

report.

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H.M.Jr:

Well, in that report we made a statement we

haven't promised the Greeks anything because

we couldn't. The Army saye they won't give
up a plane and we couldn't promise planes
that don't belong to us and belong to the
British.

M:

But did I understand that the Army actually
has any P-40's ready that could, I mean everything else being equal, just be taken down off
the shelf and given to the Greeks.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know.

M:

I don't think there is such a thing.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know, but the Army evidently is very

reluctant and I think that at this time it
would be a mistake to take anything from the
Army. They've got too little as it 18.

M:

I know.

H.M.Jr:

I think it would be a mistake.

M:

Yes. Well, thanks a lot for this information
and if you have occasion to talk to Mr. Young
I think you will approve, and I sincerely hope
you will, the line which I took with the Greeks
and which we're taking in that

H.M.Jr:
M:

H.M.Jr:

Well, I approve it heartily now. I approve
it most heartily.
Yes.

A hundred percent, and if this fellow comes
over and said that I said anything other than

that he should see you, he's just telling a

whopper.
M:

Well, that's a good double check to have on
them. You know these wily Greeks.

H.M.Jr:

I know them.

M:

All right. Well, that's very helpful Mr. Morgenthau.
Thank you very much and I'11 bear that in mind.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

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December 20, 1940

4:45 p.m.
RE BRITISH PURCHASING PROGRAM

Present:

Mr. White
Mr. Cochran
Mr. Young

Sir Frederick Phillips

H.M.Jr:

This was a little party last night, and I

answered questions and all they wanted to
know was England's problems and ours. They

didn't get on anything else.

Sir Frederick, I have not had a chance to have
any of these gentlemen bring me up to date on
anything that has happened. I have been back

about an hour and a half. So - and I told

them that unless there is some emergency,
am going to try not to work Saturday and Sunday,
I

but I will read reports. I am going to try

not to see people because the last three and
a half weeks have been a little bit more
strenuous than usual, but I have asked Mr. Hull
to have a meeting Monday morning at his office.

I don't want to let you know this the night before
so that you have to stay up until 9:30.
At that time we are going to discuss the so-called
order for 300 Curtiss P-40's. Now, the story is
this. Some time along in August or September,
we don't know just exactly when, the Curtiss

Wright Company runs out of orders on the Curtiss
P-40. They are making 8 a day. And with these
extra engines which amount to 500 and how much?
Young:

I think Sir Henry said he had about 530 or 60,

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-2something like that.
H.M.Jr:

Well, you were there. Which became available

of Allison engines due to the cancellation
that you had with Lockheed, this order can be
placed. Now, what I am doing before these
three Cabinet members is to lay before them

all the orders we have from all of the various
countries for pursuit ships. Not orders, but
requests. I misspoke myself. Requests, you see.

Now, we can't promise them any of your engines

unless we get your consent, but I would like

to be in a position to be able to say that the

English do or don't want "X" number of these
pursuit ships and they have or have not got the
money earmarked for this similarly to the deal
on the 60 ships, you see.
Phillips:

Yes, I see it all except the money earmarked,

H.M.Jr:

Well, Philip Young told me that in connection
with these 60 ships, that there was 50 million
dollars earmarked for that deal. On that basis,
I so told the President and the President said,

which I don't quite follow.

All right, let it go through." I take it that

wherever Young got that information, it was

correct. Is there any doubt about that?

Phillips:

Well, I am not familiar with the phrase "earmark",

but I don't think that particular point matters

very much, but certainly as regards the Curtiss
planes and my understanding is that it is simply an
ordinary British purchase. We have made no

special provision or earmarking of funds in ad-

vance for it.
H.M.Jr:

Well, this has nothing to do with any other transaction
but we will have to take each of these transactions
up separately. Here is one I have got to settle,

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-3because the pressure comes from the manufacturer.

If he is going to continue and not shut down,
whatever the date is - he said September 1. I
saw him in New York. But he wasn't sure. Let's

say he is right, but he is checking. He has to

place his order for materials now or else he
will have to shut down his line and, naturally,

the pressure comes from him, not from me. We
also have pressure from about 20 other countries

that want pursuit ships, and I said we want to

know from the British government between now

and Monday, do they want any or all of these
if they can get them and too, do they consider
that they have the funds wherewith to pay for
them.

Phillips:

Well, I will get the proper people in touch with

H.M.Jr:

If I could have the answer by nine o'clock

Mr. Young tonight.
Monday morning.

Phillips:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And anything else that you discussed with Cochran,

I just haven't had the chance, but he has written
it out and I will absorb it Saturday and Sunday,
so you can figure you can have a quiet week-end
unless there is some emergency.

Phillips:

Oh, I don't know about that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, as far as I am concerned. I am really
going to try not to work for two days, if possible,
other than to study, but if I could have that and
it has nothing to do with anything else other
than here is the manufacturer and he says if you

people want these and you want him to continue
to make 8 a day, you have got to tell him Monday
what you want, because it takes him 6 months to

place his orders at least for his materials.

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-4Phillips:

Yes, I have got the point. Production is
like that (indicating up), and if we do nothing
it will go down and then shoot up later.

H.M.Jr:

Exactly. And this is the only company in
America that is really turning out ships in
any number.

Phillips:

Yes.

H.V.Jr:

Thank you.

Phillips:

I haven't got any reply from London on the

last statement of the President's. It is just
as well, perhaps, that I don't try to discuss it

now.

H.M.Jr:

Well then, maybe by Monday, but I really am a

little extra tired. You have nothing until

Monday either?

Phillips:

I don't know.

H.M.Jr:

Well, just this one thing which is really something

Phillips:

Very well, thank. you.

quite by itself.

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December 20, 1940

4:54 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Forrestal.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

James

Forrestal:

Yes, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Jim, they say you called me. Have you forgot

F:

Well, I must be disintegrating, Henry, I can't
remember what it was about.

H.M.Jr:
F:

Well, that's all right.
I think everything looks pretty good - the

other thing.
H.M.Jr:
F:

Oh, do they.

I don't think you're going to get perfection
This isn't going to get any miraculous sudden
change but I think it's at least in the
channels.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that's the way democracies work.

F:

One thing - I think that that little Brewster

plant up at Long Island City is in good shape
now. I talked to the fellow today and they

are really hitting.

F:

Wonderful. Well, if you remember I'll be here
for another half an hour.
You will.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

F:

O. K., Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

H.M.Jr:

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December 20, 1940
5:18 p.m.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Lubin. I reached him in Mr. Hillman's
office.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Isador
Lubin:

You don't give me a chance to call you. to
thank you and tell you what a swell job it
turned out to be.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I did it at Cabinet, and I put it on
the note that you'd been around to see me

and had made the suggestion to me.
L:

H.M.Jr:

oh, swell.
I mean, I said that Lubin has been here and
made this suggestion and I agree and I
underlined it.

L:

Well, it turned out beautiful.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I gave it to the President yesterday

L:

H.M.Jr:

at Cabinet.

And everybody's happy and it's going to work
too because we've got four people who really
can work together.

Well, I just thought you'd want to know I did

give it to him and I did put it on that you'd
come to see me and that I agreed with you

L:

heartily and I thought he ought to do it.
Swell. Thanks a million times.

H.M.Jr:

Well .....

L:

You know, we've got another problem now.

H.M.Jr:

Only one more?

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-2L:

We've got a liaison person to pick.

H.M.Jr:

Meaning what?

L:

Between him and the group.

H.M.Jr:

Between who?

L:

The Skipper.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, really?

L:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:
L:

Oh, isn't he going to work with them directly?
Yeah, but I mean, he wants a full-time person
to keep his eye on things.

H.M.Jr:

Pardon?

L:

He wants a full-time person to keep his eye

H.M.Jr:

on things.
Besides these four?

L:

Somebody between .....

H.M.Jr:
L:

yeah.

I didn't know that. When did that happen?
Well, he's been thinking in those terms
apparently.

H.M.Jr:
L:

H.M.Jr:

You mean he wants liaison people between
these

A leg-man really. (Laughs).
Well, what the hell does he want a leg-man.why can't these men come and see him?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I suppose
You can't talk where you are.

L:

Yeah. That's it.

L:

244

-3H.M.Jr:

What?

L:

Yeah.
Are you going to be in your office
tomorrow?

H.M.Jr:

No, but I'11 be home.

L:

May I call you or come over?

H.M.Jr:

Give me a ring tomorrow. I made a little
oath I wasn't going to see anybody for two
days, but I'd love to have you call me.
I could see you this evening if you're free.
No, I'm going to the concert.

L:

O. K. Well, I'll call you at the house and

H.M.Jr:

L:

if you're free I'11 come; otherwise, I'11
understand.

H.M.Jr:

How's that?

L:

O. K.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah, I'd like to and every rule has its

L:

What's the home phone?

H.M.Jr:

For you and you only?

L:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr;

I mean, you won't tell anybody.

L:

No, absolutely.

H.M.Jr:

Because it's unlisted: North 8898.

L:

O. K. Thanks 80 much.

H.M.Jr:

It's unlisted. North 8898.

L:

Thank you ever so much.

exceptions.

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H.M.Jr:

L:

I'm delighted because I think it was a major
mistake. Labor has to be there, we have to
recognize labor, we need labor and it's got
to be a partnership.

Yeah. Well, I think so.

L:

And I was a hundred percent for it.
Fine. Thanks a million times.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

L:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 20. 1940

Miss
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL
Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns

£101.000

Purchased from commercial concerns

£ 6,000

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York sold £20,000 in registered sterling to

a non-reporting bank.

Open market sterling remained at 4.03-3/4. and transactions of the reporting

banks were:

Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

£ 5,000

-a

The Canadian dollar has had a slightly firmer tone in the last few days. As
against a discount of 13-9/16% at the beginning of the week, that currency closed
today at 13-1/4% It is believed that seasonal tourist demand has influenced the

quotation.

The Swiss franc gained another point in today's trading, closing at .2321.
The rate is now back to the level which prevailed prior to the decline on December 18.
The other currencies closed as follows:
Swedish krona
Reichanark
Lira

Argentine peso (free)

Brazilian milreis (free)

Mexican peso
Cuban peso

.2385
.4005
.0505
.2360
.0505
.2070

8-5/8% discount

There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.
No new gold engagements were reported.

The Bombay gold price was equivalent to $33.84, up 2$. Silver was 1/2 higher
at the equivalent of 43.574.

In London. the prices fixed for spot and forward silver both advanced 1/16d.
to 23-1/16d and 23d respectively. The dollar equivelents were 41.88$ and 41.76$

-2-

247

Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at 34-3/40.
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35#.
We made one purchase of silver amounting to 50,000 ounces under the Silver

Purchase Act. This represented trading silver.

KMP

CONFIDENTIAL

248

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
mind Chaudocy

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 20, 1940

Secretary Morgenthau

TO

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in
the account of the Credito Italiano, New York, maintained with the Chase National
Bank, New York.

Date

December 20

Paid To

Amount Debited
$100,000

Chase National Bank, N.Y.,

for account of Sveriges

Riksbank, Stockholm, by

order of Credito Italiano,

Rome.

KM.P.

249

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 20, 1940

For Mies

Secretary Morgenthan
FROM

Mr. Cochran

At 11:35 this morning Mr. Knoke telephoned me from the Federal Reserve Bank at
New York. He mentioned an arrangement entered into by the Government of the
Netherlands East Indies with the Guaranty Trust Company of New York for the purchase

on an installment scale of 6,000,000 ounces of silver to be used by the United States

Mint in making coins for the Netherlands East Indies. I told Mr. Knoke that I was
not aware of this business, and that I would arrange with Mr. Howard of our Mint service

to keep my office currently informed of such transactions, and that we, in turn, would
give all pertinent information to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Such in-

ortant operations as the present one will affect directly the amount of silver which
the Treasury may be called upon to purchase.

BMP

THEASURY

28767

250
PLAIN

AS

Shanghai via N. R.
Dated DECEMBER 20, 1940

Rec'd 11:02 a.m., 21st

Secretary of State,
Washington.

1415, twentisth.

Special Financial. Minister Finance Nanking
regime yesterday announced NEW Central RESERVE Bank

to be opened Nanking January 6th and to issue currency

temporarily at par with "the old lapi" until the latter
system collapses. Branches to be opened in principal

cities and notes to be considered legal tender for payment taxes, for official and private business and for
foreign Exchange transactions. Lapi is to be allowed
circulation temporarily pending ultimate rehabilitation
and unification. Statement also assails indisoriminate
inflation by Chungking financial authorities causing high
costs living, thus necessitating issuance of a new
currency. NEW bank to be in principle the Central Bank
in North China where present federal reserve banks ourrency to be permitted temporarily to continue oiroulation. Present Hua Haing issue to be abolished. The
military

251

AS-2- No. 1415, twentisth, from Shanghai.

military yen scrip to continue in circulation as it has
a coordinating and complementary value in relation to the
new currency, hence the two to be allowed to achieve their

respective objectives. Minister also announced the regulations governing a foreign Exchange reserve control committee

to consist of four Experts yet to be appointed.
INFORM COMMERCE.

LOCKHART
ALO

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PLAIN

AS

Nanking via N. R.
Dated December 20, 1940

Rec'd 2:15 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

139. December 20th, 4 p.m.

Opening of Central Bank of Issue by the Nanking Regime.

Following is a free translation of an item appearing in
today's local Chipese press:
"The Central Reserve Bank regulations which were passed at

the 38th Central Political Council meeting and referred to the
Legislative Yuan for examination have been approved by the latter
on December 14th after amendments. They were promulgated by

mandate of the National Government on the 19th.

In connection with the opening of the Central Reserve Bank

which is to take place on January 6th Mr. Chou Fu-hai, Minister
of Finance, made the following statement yesterday: 'The rehabilitation of economy and strengthening of finance is an
important administrative policy of the National Government. In
order to be able to stabilize finance and rehabilitate economy a
sound national bank must be organised. Since the outbreak of

hostilities the people have been in great distress and economy is
on the verge of bankruptcy because of the continued drop in the
value of currency and the increasing high cost of commodities.
Therefore,

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AS-2- No. 139, Dec.20th, 4 p.m., from Manking.
Therefore, unless a fundamental adjustment is made in China's

finance the sufferings of the people cannot be relieved, and the
foundation of social economy cannot be stabilized. At the time
when the Government returned to its capital, this Ministry made
a solemn declaration in regard to maintaining the value of

currency and the stabilizing of finance. Later a petition was
made to the Government for the organization of a preparatory

committee for the establishment of the central bank. After careful deliberations and positive planning for the past several months,
preparations on all matters such as the raising of reserve fund,
business policy. internal organization and issuance of notes have
now been completed. In accordance with a resolution passed at
the Central Political Council meeting in March 1937. the name of
the bank will be the Central Reserve Bank. The formal opening of

the bank will take place in the capital on January 6. 1941 on which
date business will commence. With a view to enlarging the scope of

its business, branches will be gradually established in the principal

cities. The notes to be issued will be called "legal tender" and
may be used for paying taxes, exchange purposes and all public and

private payments. In order to avoid any disturbance to the
financial market and to safeguard the resources of the people all

old legal tender notes which are now in circulation will for the
time being be allowed to circulate at par value with the legal
tender notes to be issued by the Central Reserve Bank. Gradual
adjustment

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AS-3- No. 139. Dec.20th, 4 p.m., from Nanking.
adjustment will be made and means will be devised to unify them.
This Ministry has already drawn up effective measures to deal with

the possibility of Chungking's again increasing its note issue which
would cause further depreciation in the value of its notes, produce
disturbance in the market and affect the livelihood of the people.
With regard to the circulation of Japanese military notes which is

in a special condition during the continuation of hostilities, the
new legal tender will give mutual assistance so that both may be able
to complete their respective tasks. The Federal Reserve Bank is an

important financial organ in North China therefore efforts should be
made to afford it a healthy development. The present status in the
areawhere the Federal Reserve notes are circulated should be main-

tained. As regards the Hua Heing Bank, its note issuing rights will

be nullified and its business in the future will be confined to
foreign trade, finance, and ordinary commercial banking. From now on
China's economic development, enrichment of its National Treasury,

social prosperity and international prestige all depend on the
authority of the Central Reserve Bank. Every care will be exercised
in the issuance of the new notes, and it may be taken for granted that

both the nation and the people will be benefited. I sincerely hope

that.people in all walks of life will understand this and give their
assistance to the new notes so that they may be circulated without

obstruction and the living conditions of the people may be stabilized

and their sufferings reduced."
Sent to the Department. Repeated to Chungking, Peiping and Shanghai.

By mail to Tokyo.

PAXTON

THE
COPY

inc

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255
CONFIDENTIAL

PARAPHRASE
A telegram (no. 1422) of December 20, 1940, from the
American Consul General at Shanghai reads substantially
as follows:

Upon obtaining detailed information in regard to the
plans for the new Central Bank of the Wang Ching-wei
government and for the bank's currency, bankers in Shanghai

expressed themselves as feeling relieved since it seems
that the scheme 18 not nearly 80 drastic as it was expected
to be. Although Shanghai bankers admit that the new

currency will definitely threaten the currency of the
Chinese National Government in the Shanghai area, they

do not feel that the dangers will be immediate. Shanghai
bankers are of the opinion that counter-measures having

for their aim elimination of speculative assaults on the
foreign exchange value at Shanghai of the currency of the
National Government and a reduction in the extent of
profit which the new currency measures may afford the
Nanking regime and the Japanese will probably be taken by

the authorities at Chungking. It is not likely, in the
opinion of Chinese bankers, that foreign trade at Shanghai
will be made impossible by such counter-measures, at any
rate not for some time yet, depending upon developments

in the situation.
A

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CONFIDENTIAL
-2-

A summary of the comments of bankers follows:
(a) As the published announcements show that not

much authority is given to the Nanking regime for support

of the new currency, views held previously that the Japanese did not favor the introduction of the currency but

for political reasons granted the right to the new regime
are confirmed;

(b) Toleration concerning the continued circulation
of the notes of the North China Federal Reserve Bank and

of fapi with no provision for the circulation in North
China of the new currency discloses the new currency's
weakness;

(c) As the present fapi is acceptable even for payment of taxes no compulsory measures are seen in the

announcements for circulation of the new currency;

(d) No definite time is fixed for elimination of
fapi in any area under the control of the Nanking regime;
(e) Provisions for competition of the new bank with
private commercial banks in accepting private deposits
and in dealing in commercial foreign exchange matters

directly (not a function usually exercised by a government reserve bank) discloses the depeptiveness of the

position of the new bank as a central bank solely;

(f)

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CONFIDENTIAL

is

(f) Attention was called to the fact that it was only
after foreign trade control measures were instituted and
compulsory tactics enforced that the currency of the
Federal Reserve Bank in North China was successful;

although it is admitted that it is likely the regime
at Nanking has the authority to make drastic measures

effective, doubt exists whether such action will be encouraged by the Japanese authorities in the near future;
rapid success of the new currency is not expected for
this reason.

(g) It is pleasing to observe that none of the stated
provisions seem to involve measures for the control of
trade;

(h) As the announcements concerning foreign exchange

are very vague and are considered impractical, especially
without cooperation on the part of exchange banks-Chinaee

and foreign-it is not anticipated that an attempt will
be made to control foreign exchange.

The abolition of the Huahsing currency as the unit

of currency used in paying customs duties is a matter of
concern in business circles which are fearful that

increases in the effective tariff rates may result
therefrom.

258
Message from Chase Bank in China received through courtesy
of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, December 20, 1940.
C

0

P

Y

CABLE RECEIVED FROM SHANGHAI

DECEMBER 19. 1940

"PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL

It is expected Nanking China Government opening new Central Bank of China

in Shanghai early in January and will issue bank notes: for that reason
1

exchange market weak

For your information only English banks American banks have agreed amongst

themselves not to accept nor have dealings with new banknotes"

Copyrala

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259

PARAPHRASE

A telegram of December 20, 1940, from the American

Consul General at Hankow reads substantially as follows:
Consular offices in Hankow have been informed by the
Japanese Consulate General of new regulations governing

the carrying, by travelers between Hankow and points down

river, of drafts, letters of credit, or cash. The new
regulations, which are effective retroactively as of
December 1, provide that each traveler may carry without

a permit 300 yen in cash. Travelers desiring to carry
more than this amount in cash, drafts or letters of credit
must obtain a permit from the Japanese military. The letters of credit or drafts are to be obtained from Japanese
banks. Travelers must upon departure from or arrival at
Hankow or other ports submit to the military authorities

a formal declaration in regard to the letters of credit,
drafts or cash in their possession. Confiscation of
their money or other treatment considered suitable is to
be meted out to travelers violating these regulations.
Although the Japanese circulated to foreign banks

the limitation regulations, the regulations have been disregarded by the foreign banks, which continue to send
funds to Shanghai without obtaining permits from the

Japanese military. Travelers will suffer no practical
hardship from the regulations as long as the banks continue
the

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the above-mentioned practice and travelers are permitted

to carry 300 yen without obtaining a permit. Strict
enforcement of regulations, however, may result later

on in seizure by the Japanese of letters of credit and
drafts which non-Japanese banks have issued without

having obtained the permission of the Japanese military
in advance. Attempts at penalty confiscation of funds
of boat transporting such bank transfer may also be

possible in case of a strict enforcement of regulations.
The question of discrimination against an American bank
does not arise as the branch in Hankow of the National
City Bank of New York closed on December 12.

At the present time it is not clear what were the
motives for the promulgation of the above-mentioned regu-

lations. The principal factors involved seem to be a
desire to prepare the ground for crowding non-Japanese

banks out through discriminatory permit system for all
transfers, to strengthen the Japanese military yen on the
Hankow market, and to stop shipments to Shanghai, by

speculators (including Japanese) in military yen, of large
amounts of Chinese national currency. In the opinion of
some persons the regulations are being used also for the

purpose of putting into operation at an early date an
issue of paper money projected by the regime of Wang Ching-wei
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such currency to be exchanged at par in Hankow for cur-

rency of the Chinese National Government. After consultation with British and French banks and Chambers of Commerce

the British and French consular representatives are refraining for the present from replying to the Japanese
Consulate General's notification. For this reason and on
account of the situation described above, the Consul General suggests that pending clearer signs of Japanese in-

tention to interfere seriously with the transfer of funds
of American citizens he also refrained from making any

reply to the Japanese notification.

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A telegram (no. 70) of December 20, 1940, from
Consul Reed at Hanoi reads substantially as follows:
Although previous to 1940 the amount of Indochinese
rice imported by Japan was insignificant in amount, RCcording to information received on December 19 from an
official of the economic section, the Japanese demand
now that they be allowed to receive during 1941 approximately 700,000 tons, which is about one-half of the ex-

portable surplus. The 450,000 tons of rice imported
by Japan in 1940 and imports in previous years were paid
for in American dollars. However, the Japanese propose
that a barter arrangement be made for 1941 imports. The
informant remarked that it was necessary to find another

market for Indochinese rice, even on the basis of a barter
arrangement, since the loss of the French market, which

was most important in the past.
General reports indicate that Japan is lacking in
exportable commodities suitable for the Indochinese market.
Therefore, it would appear that Japan's adverse trade
balance with Indochina which is already large would be
considerably increased by greater imports from Indochina

and that large unusable credits in Japan would result.
By means of clearing agreements Japan, through her debtor

position, would secure for herself profitable commercial
relations with Indochina comparable to the position of
Germany in the Balkans before the war.