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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Legation, Stockholm, Sweden
DATE: December 12, 1940, 2 p.m.

NO.: 1100
Reference 18 made to telegram of December 10, 11 a.m.,

No. 390, transmitting a message from the Treasury.

It is impossible, Governor Rooth states, to know
exactly what is going on in Oslo. However, he got the
impression from persons with whom he has spoken that there
was exaggeration of the Stockholm's TIDNINGEN despatch,

if the same as published here. It is his opinion that
there is not a general stock exchange strike, except that
since the Nasjonal Samling dismissed 15 responsible officials
of the City Government of Oslo, banks, insurance companies
and private persons who had previously been purchasers of
bonds have stopped buying them. There is probably also
not much general buying on the exchange, Rooth said, because

of the lack of faith in Norway's financial future due
to the political antagonism to and the inefficiency of
Quisling and his supporters. During the next few days
Governor Rooth will try to get more accurate information
and if he 18 able to obtain any, he said he would let us
know so that the information can be transmitted to the
Secretary of the Treasury.
Governor Rooth sends greetings to Secretary Morgenthau.
STERLING.
EA:LWW

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December 13, 1940

My dear Mr. Prime Hinisters

Thank you for the information
contained in your telegram.

Yours sincerely,

(Signed) H

The Honorable

William L. Mackensie-King,
Prime Minister of Canada,
Ottawa, Canada.

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December 13, 1940

my dear Mr. Prime Ministers

Thank you for the information
contained in your telegran.
Yours sincerely,

(Signed) EL Jr.

The Menorable

William L. Mackensie-King,
Prime Minister of Canada,
Ottawa, Canada.

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December 13, 1940

My dear Mr. Prime Minister:

Thank you for the information
contained in your telegram.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) H Morgentban,

The Henorable

William L. Hackensie-King,
Prime Minister of Canada,
Ottawa, Canada.

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December 12, 1940

Dear Leons

Attached herewith is a copy of the report
covering Vest Goast inspection trip which was
made by Under Secretary of the Havy Forrestal,
Captain S. M. Krans of the Advisory Commission,

and representatives of the British Purchasing
Commission. This report was compiled by a number
of my staff which accompanied the group.

I pass it along for your confidential
information.

Sincerely.

Honorable Leen Henderson,

Henry

Commissioner of Price Stablisation,

The Advisery Commission to the

Council of National Defense,
Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. 0.
Enc:

Report made by Buckley.

(In looseleaf folder)

PY:bj

By Message 1116

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December 12, 1940

Dear Loons

Attached herewith is a copy of the report
covering Vest Coast inspection trip which was
made by Under Secretary of the Havy Perrectal,
Captain S. N. Frane of the Advisery Commission,

and representatives of the British Purchasing

Commission. This report was compiled by a of my staff which accompanied the group.

1 pass it along for your confidential
information.

Sincerely,

Henry
Honorable Leen Henderson,

Commissioner of Price Stablination,
The Mivisery Commission to the
Council of National Defence,
Federal Reserve Building,
Veshington, D. O.

PYtbj

By Messages

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December 12, 1940

Dear Leons

ASTACHED herewith is a copy of the report

covering Vest Coast inspection trip which was
made by Under Secretary of the Havy Forrestal,
Captain S. N. Krans of the Advisory Commission,

and representatives of the British Purchasing
Commission. This report was compiled by a number

of my staff which accompanied the group.

I pass it along for your confidential
information.

Sincerely,

Honorable Leen Henderson,

Henry

Commissioner of Price Stablination,
The Advisery Commission to the

Council of National Defense,
Federal Reserve Building,
Washington, D. 0.

PY:bj

By Masseager

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12/12

Meme to Mrs Klotz
The
following
have
been sent to Mr Leon
Henderson at S.E.C.

in accordance with
the Secretary instructions
I&II
Ports Deliverie 8 New Orders June 9-Due 7,1990
Unfilled Orders and Estimated Deliani,

Dec 7, 1940

( Copy ofeach)

DEM.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

Personal and Secret

December 12th, 1940.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your personal
and secret information copy of the latest
report received from London on the military
situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

have Birth

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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Telegram from London dated
December 10th, 1940.

1.

Naval

A large British naval unit with

two gun boats and three destroyers is operating off
Hersa Matruh.

An emeny raider attacked shipping off Naura
in the Pacific ocean on December 8th and then left at
2.

high speed. A British ship of 6,400 tone was set on
fire.
3.

Shipping Casualties. The S.S. "Hartford"

has been towed into port.
4.

A convoy of 28 ships from Canada has arrived

safely in home waters after being scattered and delayed
by a gale.
5.

Royal Air Force. December 10th. One Blenheim

bombed the oil refinery at Emmerich and another Bergen

aerodrome with unobserved results. Three other aircraft
attacked shipping. Two Hudsone have not returned.
6.

Night of December 9th/10th
Forty one bombers were despatched to attack

the following targets:
Targets

Locality

No. of Aircraft
88 medium

Antwery

Airframe factory
011 installation

Lorient

Naval base

14 heavy

Boulogne

Docks

Bremen

7.

3 medium

2 heavy

Caypt and Libya

Night of December 8th/9th

In support of

military operations twenty nine heavy and medium bombers
attacked Benina, where many enemy aircraft had been
previously/

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It is known that considerable

damage was caused to hangars, grounded aircraft and

buildings. Our bombers also attacked sidi Barvani,
Sollum, and Bardia and cooperated with our advancing

tanks. Other Royal Air Force and Fleet Air Arm
machines cooperated with naval units in a bombardment

of two coastal bases.
8.

December 9th.

A Blenheim successfully

attacked enemy landing grounds and Hurricanes machine
gunned troops and M.T., causing heavy damage, and shot

down two Italian fighters. All our aircraft returned.
9.

German Air Force.

Night of December 8th/9th. Total casualties

reported in the London area, 85 killed 94 injured. The
effect on production is not serious at any "key points"
except at one radio factory.
10.

Night of December 9th/10th.
Only one enemy aircraft came over.

11.

Aircraft casualties in operations over and

from the British Isles.
Enemy: By day, 1 bomber destroyed
British: Two bombers missing.

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Date Dec. 12,
To:

19 40.

Secretary Morgenthau

From: Mr. White

These memoranda were compiled over

night. They will be supplemented by
later data.

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EXCHANGE CONTROL

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Summary

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 12, 1940
TO

FROM

Mr. White
Mr. Coe

Subject: Treatment of American property interests by Germany, Japan, Canada
and Italy
A. Germany

1. American owners of branch plants in Germany have not been permitted to control the management or personnel of these plants.
2. American owners of direct investments in Germany have not been

permitted to collect dividends on their direct investments.

3. American owners of bonded investment have not been permitted to

receive the full interest and amortization on these investments,
more than half of which have been in complete default. Probably
more than $700 million of clear loss has been taken by American
bondholders.

4. American long-term investors have been discriminated against in
favor of investors from countries politically related to Germany
or from countries which had sufficient control over international

transactions to be able to retaliate.

5. American private citizens who were awarded over $600 million by
the Mixed Claims Commission have not been permitted to collect
on these claims from Germany.

6. American owners of short-term claims on Germany have been permitted to withdraw them only over a 10-year period and have suffered
considerable losses on these claims.
Our total claims on Germany, short-term and long-term, excluding war
debts, are about $350 million.

The total claims of Germany on the United States are less than $100 million.
(Both of these totals exclude the areas now occupied by Germany.)
B. Japan

1. The Japanese in the exercise of their foreign exchange control
and collateral regulations have caused considerable damage to
American interests in the Far East.

(a) In Japan
(1) American assets have been frozen. At the discretion
of the Japanese Government, in most cases, American

businessmen have been allowed to withdraw their earnings.

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(2) The Japanese Government, through its foreign trade
controls, has eliminated all imports of American
commodities
war
effort. except those vitally necessary to their
(3) American enterprises in Japan are discriminated

against and pressure is brought to curtail their
activities.

(b) In Manchuria
(1) The Japanese system of foreign exchange control and
state monopolies has practically eliminated American

enterprise from the field.

(2) The foreign exchange control is administered to
discourage imports from the United States and
other non-Japanese controlled countries.

(c)

In North China

(1) As the Japanese tighten their hold upon North
China similar regulations directed against
Americans have become increasingly severe.

2. American investments in Japan have a nominal value of a quarter

of a billion dollars. Since these are frozen their actual value

is doubtful. While smaller, the Japanese investment of $150 million in the United States is crucially important to Japan as it
represents about half of Japan's foreign exchange reserves.
(There is appended a longer discussion of the injurious effects of the
Japanese exchange control.)

C. Italy
Italian exchange control has been more lenient on American industrialists
and investors than that of Germany.

1. The Italians have serviced the greater part of their U.S.
dollar bonds.

2. Short-term assets have been withdrawable with little difficulty. However, the total of these assets has been small.
3. Regular remittances of dividends and profits to the United States
has been promitable since 1935, but there have been a number
of special exemptions.

(Total American holdings in Italy are under $140 million. Italian
holdings in this country are $90 million.)

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D. Canada

Canadian exchange control is much less harsh with respect to

the United States than the controls of the Axis powers. But the
following restrictions may be noticed:
1. Balances held prior to the war cannot be withdrawn by

Americans at the official rate.

2. Withdrawal of profits required 30 days' notice before
a permit is issued.
3. Imports from the United States in excess of $25 require
a permit. Certain categories of goods are prohibited
and others restricted.

4. Proceeds from the sale of securities held prior to the
war may not be withdrawn at the official rate.
5. Insurance companies must declare their holdings of
foreign exchange.

6. American companies must make a monthly report of
operations and submit to periodic examinations.

In this connection, it is only fair to list the activities which

can be engaged in by American property owners in Canada and which
would not be permitted under the Axis type of exchange control.
Americans can withdraw interest and dividends on Canadian investments.
Branch plants can conduct business freely with parent company in the

United States. American investors can withdraw new funds in foreign
exchange. American residents in Canada can hold and dispose of foreign
currency and securities. Returning Americans may withdraw foreign
exchange which they brought in, and goods up to $100. Americans
may sell foreign or domestic securities to the United States. American
balances may be used freely within Canada. Commitments by insurance
companies to pay in foreign exchange are being honored as respects

Americans. United States life insurance companies are permitted to
do business as usual.

(There is appended a longer report on the organization of the

Canadian exchange control system.)

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Mr. White

To

From

December 11, 1940

Mr. Gass

Subject: German Exchange Control and American Interests.
Summary

1. The Germans have for many years exercised an exchange control vis-a-vis
the United States which has cost this country and its nationals hundreds of
millions of dollars. They are now using this control to damage this nation not

only in its external relations but also in its internal affairs. Hitherto, the

major damage has been effected through German control exercised over Americanowned assets in Germany and other areas: more recently the use of the foreign
exchange control over German-owned dollar assets in the United States has been

the source of injury . Specifically the effects of the German Exchange Control
as it has been exercised with respect to the United States are as follows:

2. The greatest losses inflicted on American property interests by Germany
have been borne by those Americans who, during the 1920's, invested liberally
in the reconstruction of German industry, both through the purchase of long-term
German dollar bonds and through the establishment of modern branch plants in

Germany.

3. Under the Nazi Regime, United States holdings of German dollar bonds
have been reduced from a face value of approximately $1,100 million to a face
value of approximately $75 million. Considerably more than half of this reduction, probably over $700 million, represents a clear loss by the American
bondholders.

4. When the National Socialists cane into power in Germany, American
branch plants in that country had an estimated value of over $260 million. There

has been very little repatriation of this investment, but it has gradually become
almost valueless for practical purposes. Since the middle of 1933, transfer of
dividends has been permitted only intermittently and only to a few favored con-

cerns. The American parent company, in most cases, receives no dividends, has
no control over management and personnel, and is not permitted to receive information concerning the details of operations. Ownership has been reduced to the
thinnest legal fiction.

5. At the end of 1930, Americans held about $925 million of short-term
claims on Germany. Today the value of our outstanding short-term claims is
less than $50 million. This reduction was not achieved without considerable
losses to the American creditors, though the short-term creditors fared much
better than the owners of German dollar bonds or the owners of direct investments in Germany.

6. About $1,275 million is the German Government's indebtedness to the
Government of the United States. Over $600 million of this represents awards
of the Mixed Claims Commission to American private citizens. These totals are
exclusive of the debts to the United States Government of other countries which
Germany has occupied and annexed to the Reich.

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7. The National Socialist Government has discriminated against American
long-term investors ever since 1933. Several other countries, who either had
close political ties with Germany or were in a position to retaliate by taking
over German assets or by eliminating an excess of imports from Germany, were

able to get specially favorable settlements. The United States was unable to
secure equal treatment for American creditors. None of the former American loans
has been serviced in full and more than half have been in complete default. Yet
virtually all Dutch and Swiss loans, and the English Dawes and Young loans, were
serviced in full up to the outbreak of war.
8. Since 1933, when the Nazi Government defaulted on transfers of bond
interest and amortization, ostensibly because dollars were scarce, Germany has
repurchased approximately a billion dollars face value of United States-held
German dollar bonds, at a cost of between $200 and $250 million. Dollars, of
which there was a scarcity when it was a question of meeting legitimate obligations, apparently became plentiful when there was an opportunity to repurchase
these same obligations at the low prices which were the direct result of German
Government policy.

9. Since September, 1940, the Nazi Government, with avowed political ends,
has accelerated the repatriation program by repurchases of a face amount of
approximately $75 million of United States-held German dollar bonds. The purpose
of these repurchases, as avowed by German agents, is to strengthen the position
of Germany at the Peace Conference by enabling her to make a cheap gesture of

agreeing to service all her international obligations in full. German control
over United States property, in all the area today under her jurisdiction, is

also regarded as an instrument of an eventual all-round settlement with the
United States. The withdrawal of all German liquid assets from this country,
or their concealment in the accounts of other countries, serves the same purpose.

10. In recent months, German officials in the United States have carried
on a large part of their financial transactions in cash, presumably to prevent
the detection of improper disbursements or to build up secret reserves in case

German balances are blocked. In this way, the unreciprocated freedom which we
afford to the use of German dollar balances enables the German Government to

finance activities directed against our national interests, without serious

danger of detection.

11. The Germans are in a position to utilize every loophole and every
licensed area in our own foreign funds control insofar as our foreign funds
control can be persuaded to release French or other funds to Latin America,
to Switzerland, to Sweden and other countries. The Germans are given the
opportunity through intermediaries in the case of Latin America and through
economic and political coercion in the case of countries adjacent to Germany
to acquire the dollars which we free.

12. German-controlled direct investments in the United States constitute

a formidable source of direct influence by the German Government over certain
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capital, and certain German individuals, in some domestically controlled industries makes possible the exertion of German influence in quarters not superficially apparent. Germany also controls many industrial processes in the
United States, some of which are vital to National Defense, through patent
holdings and licenses.
13. German investments and the activities of German nationals in the
United States are strictly controlled by the Nazi Government. As long as the
United States Government fails to establish its own system of control over
German assets, it permits the Nazi Government a free hand here. The alternatives
are not freedom versus control but German control versus American control.

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German foreign exchange control.

Foreign exchange control was first adopted in Germany on July 16, 1931,

as a result of the severe financial crisis of that year. From that date on,

the economic life of Germany and the position of the foreign creditor has been
subject to increasingly rigorous government control. Long before the outbreak

of war, the German Government had assumed complete control over international

transactions of all kinds: without the permission of the proper authorities,
no transfers abroad of payments for imports, for foreign debt service, for
profits, rents, or royalties, or capital withdrawal might be made. The regulations governing such permission were complex, the use which might be made of
any Reichsmarks belonging to, or accruing to, foreigners being dependent upon
the specific origin of these Reichsmark balances.

Permission to transfer Reichsmark funds or claims into foreign currency is
granted or withheld according to the economic, political and strategic policies

of the German Government. For example, substantial sums of foreign exchange
have been paid to certain countries with whom Germany either was in a poor

bargaining position, or found it desirable to maintain very good relations. In

the case of the United States, almost the only transfers permitted were payments
for current importations into Germany from the United States, and even here a
large proportion of our total exports to Germany could only be made by accepting
various forms of blocked balances.

German restrictions on international capital transactions.
The system of regulations which the German Government set up to control
capital movements was rapidly expanded after 1933 to cover every conceivable
transaction and plug every leak whereby capital might escape the country. The
German authorities are armed with unlimited authority and the regulations have
been adopted with great vigor to take account of new developments in Germany's

economic position. Additions, subtractions, and exceptions to the rules are
frequent, and a complete description of the regime at any time would be out of
date before it could be compiled. The following description is intended only
to illustrate the scope and method of the German regulations; any specific rules
or examples mentioned may have been superseded.

After June 1933, the German Government required that interest, dividends,
capital payments, and rents resulting from foreign investments in Germany Debt must to

be paid in Reichsmarks into the Conversion Office for German Foreign
the credit of the foreign creditor. Standstill agreement debts and income this from
capital acquired after 1931 with free foreign exchange were exempted non-interest from

requirement. The Conversion Office issued to foreign creditors of
bearing Reichsmark certificates or interest-bearing bonds in the currency Office could the

original claim. Alternatively, the amounts paid into the Conversion where they could
be transferred to blocked accounts in the foreign exchange banks, made only
be drawn on for certain limited purposes. Capital repayments could be
into special blocked accounts which could be expended for certain specified
limited purposes.

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As a result of the severe restrictions on transfer payments, a large

number of blocked mark accounts were opened in the German banks authorized to
accept such accounts. German debtors in most cases were permitted to discharge

their obligations to foreigners by payments into these accounts, many of which
are still held, while others have been used chiefly for investment in certain

securities and real estate in Germany or for payment for German exports. Blocked
marks could also be sold to other foreigners, but the uses of such acquired marks
were even more restricted then the uses of the original accounts, and consequently they could be sold only at a heavy discount.

In addition to the rigorous regulation of financial transactions, the

German Government also has imposed direct restrictions since the outbreak of
war on the export of commodities from Germany. These restrictions are a further
obstacle to the liquidation of American assets in Germany.
Discrimination against U.S. holders of German dollar bonds.
Since 1933 the National Socialist Government has discriminated against
American long-term creditors. Up until June of that year Germany had met in
full the interest and amortization charges on her foreign bonds. But on July 1,
1933, Germany promulgated a law relieving German debtors of the obligation to pay
in foreign currencies and requiring them to pay their foreign obligations in
reichsmarks into the conversion office. Since that time, none of the former
German dollar bonds have been fully serviced in this country and more than half
have been in complete default.

Yet the Dutch and Swiss creditors were able to collect virtually the

whole of the interest due them; they were able to reach such an agreement
because of Germany's favorable balance of trade with Holland and Switzerland.
This was clearly a discrimination against the American creditors. And in 1934

the British Government was able to obtain full service on British holdings of

the Dawes and Young loans; they were able to reach such an agreement by reason

of a law empowering the British Government to take retaliatory action against
German trade. The United States, however, had a strong favorable balance of
trade with Germany and consequently was not able to bring effective pressure
on the German Government with respect to these loans. The Germans have been
servicing about 75 percent of the payments due on the American holdings of
these loans. This procedure also clearly discriminated against the American
creditors.

Furthermore, although the Nazi Government defaulted on transfers of bond
interest and amortization, ostensibly because dollars were scarce, Germany
has repurchased approximately one billion dollars face value of UnitedStatesheld German dollar bonds at a cost of between $200 and $250 million.

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This repatriation of German dollar bonds was stimulated by special

measures undertaken by the German Government. After 1933 default by German

debtors and official restrictions on service transfers abroad caused the price

of German bonds held abroad to fall severely. On the German market prices
remained relatively high. The German Government took advantage of this differential to institute a system of "supplementary exports". By this method German

exporters could buy dollar bonds with part of the proceeds of their exports,
and then could register them for sale at the higher prices prevailing in Germany.
Thus dollars which were scarce when it was a question of meeting legitimate
obligations were plentiful when it was a question of making American bondholders
indirectly pay for German exports.
the

Since 1940, however, Nazi Government has accelerated the repatriation
program for avowed political ends. It has repurchased a face amount of
approximately $75 million of United States-held German dollar bonds at a cost
of about $20 million. Two German agents alone, acting privately for the German
Government have received $15 million since October 10 for the express purpose
of making these repurchases. The purpose of these repurchases, as avowed by
these German agents, is to strengthen the position of Germany at the Peace
Conference by enabling her to make a gesture of agreeing to service all her

international obligations in full. Here again dollars which were scarce when
it was a question of meeting legitimate obligations became plentiful when it
was a question of realizing German political ends.
Injury to American-owned direct investments in Germany.

The value of American direct investments in Germany has been estimated by
the Department of Commerce at about $264 million as of the end of 1933. At
present the book value of these investments is about $225 million. However,

this figure of $225 million is doubly fictitious. On the one hand, these

investments are at the moment practically valueless to their nominal American
owners because they yield no transferable interest or dividends. On the other
hand, the book value of American direct investments under German control has now
been more than doubled by the extension of German control over the larger part
of Continental Europe.

Already American capital and managing personnel are being eliminated from
enterprises in all the occupied area-from France to Rumania.

Recent experience in Rumania still comes fresh to the mind. In that

country, as soon as the Germans acquired complete economic control, with the
advent of General Antonescu to power, American-owned subsidiaries began to

pass into German hands. For instance, the director-general of the American-

owned Societa Anonima Romana de Telefona, a $50 million subsidiary of the
International Telephone and Telegraph Company, was persuaded to agree to a

demand of the Iron Guard for a reorganization of the Telefona's directorship.
The Iron Guard thereupon named a special commissar to supervise the telephone

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company's activities. On October 11, 1940, the commissar took over control of

the company, and it was announced that Iron Guard understudies would be selected

to take over all the most important executive posts. Also, on December 4, 1940,
a decree announced the expropriation of all the crude oil and gasoline lines,

together with pumping stations and tank farms, of the Romano-Americans, a company
owned by the Standard Oil Company of New Jersey. Payment for the expropriated

property will be made in bonds to be amortized in 25 years and carrying interest
at 3 percent. Similarly the International Business Machine subsidiary in
Rumania was confronted with the alternative either to accept a commissar or to
replace American managers by Germans, and to relinquish part of their shareholdings to German interests.
Short-term investments and the standstill agreements.

During the late 1920's American short-term capital flowed in large volume
to Europe, principally to Germany. In 1930, American short-term claims on

Germany totalled about $925 million.

The severe financial crisis of the summer of 1931 convinced Germany's

foreign commercial creditors that any attempt at general liquidation of their

commercial credits to Germany would lead to a collapse of German industry.
A Standstill Agreement was reached between a committee of the foreign bankers
and a committee representing the Reichsbank and the German bankers. The
foreign bankers agreed to maintain the existing volume of short-term credits
which had already been extended to German firms. In return the German banks
provided certain guarantees of the regular payment of interest and agreed to
certain provisions which permitted the gradual reduction of the outstanding
credits. The Agreement has been renewed each year since 1931.

About $486 million of American bank loans were covered by the first
Standstill Agreement. No estimates are at hand for the volume at that time
of short-term credits not covered by the agreement, but they probably were
several hundred millions.

The amount (in marks) due the American bankers under the Agreement has

been steadily reduced since 1931. This reduction has been the result of three
factors:

1. Cancellation of unused credit lines.
2. Repayments through the sale of Travel marks.

3. Devaluation of the dollar.

By March 1939 the amount outstanding was only $65 million. In September
1939 the agreement was cancelled, but on December 9, 1939, some of the American
banks reached a new agreement covering about $46 million of credits. For the
past three years, credits not covered by the Standstill Agreement have been
small and shrinking fraction of all American short-term credits to Germany.
At the end of 1938, the Agreement covered $71 million out of a total of about
a

$90 million. Our latest Treasury figures show a total of only about $45 million
in U.S. short-term claims on Germany.

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Intergovernmental debt.
The amounts owed the United States Government by the German Government

represent the cost of the American Army of Occupation and the awards of
the Mixed Claims Commission. On June 30, 1940, the total value of these
debts, including principle and accumulated interest, was $1,264 million.
The last payments, of about $1,250 thousand, on these debts were

received in 1934. This brought the total paid to about $34 million.
Since 1934 Germany has been in complete default.

To these debts of the German Government must now be added the debts

owed to the Government of the United States by the countries which Germany

has occupied.

Use of German Dollar Resources for Improper Activities in the United States
A common technique currently being used by Germany to finance improper

activities in the United States is the accumulation of large cash balances

which can be disbursed for various subversive purposes without leaving
traces behind.

According to reports from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, bills

traced recently by serial numbers from the account of the German consulate
in New York City are known to have been received by firms and organizations
suspected of being engaged in propaganda activities.

That this device of using cash accounts for undercover purposes is
commonly being resorted to is attested by the following examples:
(1) On December 4, 1940, the German Embassy withdrew $200,000

in cash from its account. All of this was in bills of $1,000

denomination or smaller.

(2) In the last few months, the German Consulate General in New York
secured over $1,000,000 in cash. On October 14, it withdrew
$400,000 in cash; on November 19, $30,000; on November 25,
$20,000; on December 2, $650,000.

(3) Fritz Wiedemann, when he assumed the Consulate Generalship in
San Francisco, opened an account with a local bank by depositing,

reportedly, $5 million.

e

Betwen October 2, 1940, and the middle of November, it has been
estimated that German bank funds in this country have dropped from approximately $13,200,000 to $7,700,000. The freedom of action which these
transactions represent is hardly reciprocated by Germany so far as American
funds in Nazi-held territory are concerned.

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German attempts to circumvent our foreign funds control.
The Germans have set up various devices whereby they attempt to
circumvent the foreign funds control which we have established with regard

to the occupied countries. In recent months, they have effected important
trade and remittance transactions, in which nationals of the countries subject to licensing have an interest, through intermediaries in Latin America,
Siberia, Switzerland, Portugal and Spain. For example, the Zurich branch of
an Alsatian bank has cabled a New York bank stating that they can effect
payments even of considerable amounts against dollars in New York, both in
unoccupied and in the occupied French territory. This ties up with the

announcement of the German Consul-General in San Francisco that remittances
could be made to France and other countries whose funds have been blocked by
transfers through this New York bank. Again, a New York firm has been

cooperating with a French firm in the occupied zone in evading our foreign
funds control by facilitating payments for perfumes in Mexico and Switzerland.

In another case, an axis controlled bank in the Argentine advertises that
it has established a regular payments service for France. Although there is
nothing irregular in transfers from this bank to France, yet the purpose of
these transfers is clear. One can effectively evade the controls by remitting
funds to agents in the Argentine who, in their turn, remit these funds to
France.

German influence in American industry.

The direct investments of Germany in the United States, plus the direct
investments in the United States of those countries over which Cermany has
control; make Nazi influence in some United States industries of considerable
importance. The General Aniline and Film Corporation of New York is a good
example of a German-controlled firm which has an important place in one of

the large industries of this country, viz., the chemical industry.

The extent of German influence on industries in this country is greater,
however, than indicated merely by the amount of German-controlled direct
investments here. For example, General Aniline and Film Corporation (which
is indirectly owned by I. G. Farben, the German dye trust) has considerable
investments in Standard oil of New Jersey, in Sterling Products, Inc., and
in E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Co. Furthermore, many of the officers and

directors of General Ariline and Film are officers and directors of large
domestically-controlled corporations. Edsel Ford, e.g., holds the position
of director in General Aniline and Film as well as the position of officer
and director in several other well-known domestic firms. The presence of such
interlocking directorates can hardly fail to enhance the magnitude of German
influence in American industries.

In still another way, the presence of Nazi control in United States
industry manifests itself. In 1937, Germany held 37 percent of all foreign but
held United States patents. Not only is this patent control important, vital to
it is important in some cases with respect to industrial processes
national defense, among which cases the following may be mentioned:

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(1) Patent control of Bausch and Lomb Optical Company has recently
kept essential instruments from Army and Navy use;

(2) Magnesium, an essential metal, is produced in this country partly

under patents held by a partially German-owned corporation;

(3) Tungsten carbide, a material listed by the Army and Navy Minitions
Board as "strategic", is produced by General Electric, with Krupp having
the right, under contract, to limit the number of new licenses of
tungsten carbide patents.

The "freedom" of Nazi assets in this country.
A special circumstance which should be taken account of in the formulation
of our policy with respect to regulating or not regulating the use of German
funds in this country, is the peculiar relationship which exists between the
Nazi Government and its subjects. Unlike the situation in most democratic
countries, the control over foreign assets held by German subjects is, in effect,
held by the German Government. The idea of free and individual property
ownership has been eliminated in Nazidom. The State has assumed full jurisdiction and control over all funds and properties of its subjects, whether
the situs of these is at home or abroad. The private, individual ownership
of German investments and funds in the United States is convenient to the
German Government as a legal fiction, but the reality of the situation is that
they are the property of the Reich.
Hence, the absence of American control over the funds of German subjects
is tantamount to giving the German Government a free hand in whatever finan-

cial control it can obtain over industries in this country. It is impossible
unilaterally to maintain "free" rights where a bilateral relationship exists
and where the other party exercises control. The institution of control

measures by the United States over German funds in this country, therefore,
would not destroy a "freedom" which does not exist, but would rather vest in
this Government a control now exercised by a foreign government.

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Japanese Exchange Control and American Interests

1. The Japanese in the exercise of their foreign exchange control and
collateral regulations have caused great damage to American interests
in the Far East.
a. In Japan
The Japanese imposed exchange control on May 1, 1933.

This brought the remittance of sums from Japan to United
States from American investments in Japan under Japanese
control with resulting damage to American interests in
several instances. As early as November, 1934, for example,
it was reported by Mr. Grew that the General Motors Company
subsidiary in Japan was not permitted to export funds re-

sulting from the sale of some of its shares.

Since 1937 the Japanese control has become increasingly

stringent to the extent that American funds in Japan are now
completely frozen. At present, only transactions amouting
to less than 100 yen a year ($23.00) are exempt from the
control.
The Japanese Government is now organizing a complete

control of all imports and exports. Even under the partial

controls in existence before, the Japanese were able arbitrarily to discriminate against American exporters to Japan.
The Japanese have eliminated all imports from the United

States except those vitally necessary for their war effort.
American enterprises in Japan are being forced out of

business. After long years of profitable existence, the

American-owned Japan Advertiser has been recently forced to
discontinue.

b. In Vanchuria
The Japanese-instituted system of foreign exchange control
in Manchuria has discriminated effectively against American
business. The ostensible purpose of the exchange control was
plainly stated as being "to curtail unnecessary imports from
countries other than Japan".
The puppet "Manchukuoan" foreign exchange control is

linked with the Japanese control and in practice serves only
Japanese purposes. Under this regime, all transactions in
currencies, other than the yen, including transactions in
United States dollars, are subject to rigorous administrative
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control. Since all other currencies than the yen are regarded
as foreign exchange and the purpose of the control is to
restrict the use of foreign exchange, it is obvious that
constant discrimination against Americans and in favor of
Japanese exists.

Implementing the foreign exchange control are a wide
variety of puppet state monopolies dominated by Japanese and

excluding Americans from fertile fields of industry. American

concerns have been forced to abandon industry after industry
to the Japanese. For example, the Manchukuoan petroleum
monopoly was organized to become the sole importer into

Manchuria of practically all petroleum products. American

companies were forced to discontinue their Manchurian business

at great loss.

The Kwantung Army enforces discrimination by the Manchukuoan

Government against the purchase of American motor trucks in
favor of Japanese-assembled products.
The "Manchukuoan" Government's law of October, 1937

resulted in the withdrawal of practically all American motion

picture companies from the Manchurian market.
C. North China

The Japanese puppet government in North China has similarly

promulgated a foreign exchange control which is increasingly
injurious to American business. The puppet Federal Reserve Bank
of North China has been placed in charge of all foreign exchange
transactions. Since the value of the North China yuan is

officially fixed on a parity with the you, while its actual

foreign exchange value in terms of other currencies is much
lower, a premium is placed on imports from Japan as against
the United States.
The Japanese are instituting a system of trade monopolies
in North China which already has caused considerable damage to

American interests in this area.

The Japanese military and naval authorities in North China
engage in practices which discriminate against Americans. Largescale smuggling by Japanese is permitted. Through various tariff
practices commodities imported from Japan are allowed to enter
the occupied Chinese ports without the payment of customs or
port fees.

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2. Under present circumstances American assets under the control of Japan
have whatever value the Japanese wish to set upon them. Americans
having investments in Japan have no protection against the arbitrary
actions of the Japanese Government. Freezing of Japanese assets in
the United States is essential to provide the necessary protection
due to American property.

Americans have a quarter of a billion dollars invested in Japan of
which over one-third is represented in short-term funds which have
been frozen by the Japanese. On the other side of the ledger, the
Japanese have about $100 million in short-term funds and about

$50 million in direct investments in the United States.

From the viewpoint of relative importance, however, the Japanese
funds in this country represent almost half of Japan's known foreign
exchange reserves whereas; American funds in Japan represent only a
negligible portion of our foreign exchange reserves.

3. For effective defense, control of Japanese resources in the United
States is necessary.

a. Exchange control is the most flexible and powerful method

of controlling international economic transactions. At

the present time, the outstanding fact about the economic
relations between Japan and the United States is that the
Japanese are supplying their war economy with materials and
machines from the U. S. Their war economy, with exchange
control as a component part, has already caused enormous

damage to the economic interests of the U. S. in the Far
East. Exchange control would enable the U. S. to place
into operation any desired curb on the supply of materials
across the Pacific. This curb might be merely a gradual
slowing down. It might be drastic on some articles and
less on others. Whatever the policy was, it could be
quickly enforced. The exchange control could be used as
a supplement to diplomatic negotiations and bargaining.
Not only because Japanese policy has already caused great
damage to the United States, but also because the dominant
orientation of Japanese foreign policy seems to be against

the United States, we should out of elementary self-interest
take steps to prevent the strengthening and enlargement of
Japanese war interests.

b. It is essential to know the dollar resources available to
Japan. In the past, because of mis-statements by Japanese
banks in New York, it has appeared that Japan was likely
to exhaust her foreign exchange reserves. This false
picture has encouraged the viewpoint that no action by the
United States was necessary since Japan would automatically

be forced to curtail her war effort due to lack of foreign
exchange.

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C. Ambassador Grew has recommended that Japanese funds in the

United States be blocked to assist him in securing the
liquidation of frozen American funds in Japan. This he
regards as particularly urgent at the present time as he
has caught signs that indicate the Japanese will soon
withdraw all available funds out of the United States.

4. It is essential for national security that control be maintained
over Japanese expenditures in the United States.

a. The Japanese officials in the United States maintain 2. close
supervision over all of their nationals in the United States,
the recent registration of all Japanese residents with the
Japanese consuls being a good instance. The Japanese foreign
exchange control has required registration of all Japanese
foreign assets and these are, therefore, also at the disposal
of the Japanese state. It is obvious that all Japanese
assets, concerns and nationals in the United States must
operate for Japanese state ends. The existence of such a
foreign control reaching across American borders and
exercising its influence on people and concerns resident

in the United States is a direct threat to the security of
the American nation. In self-defense it is vitally necessary
that such foreign control be neutralised by the imposition
of an American control reclaiming the sovereign rights of
the United States over all within our boundaries.

b. The Japanese are maintaining an extensive espionage network

in the United States. For proof, it is merely necessary to

recall the two recent cases of the apprehension of two Japanese-

paid agents, Lieutenant-Commander Farnsworth and the Philippine

Scouts officer recently convicted.

The Japanese have recently started a new school for espionage

agents to be sent to the Philippines. Unquestionaly, the

United States has many graduates of some of the older
Japanese spy schools.

The F.B.I. reported that an agreement for cooperation and
interchange of information has already been reached between
the German and Japanese espionage organizations in the
United States.
The Japanese notoriously attempt to influence public opinion
in the United States by paying large sums for nominal services
to influential people (General O'Ryan being a case in point).
While control over Japanese funds would not stop Japanese
espionage and attempts at bribery, both of these Japanese
practices would undoubtedly be severely crippled.

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5. The Japanese have engaged in secret financial transactions in the
United States.

For a period of over two years (July 27, 1938 to September 4, 1940),
the New York office of the semi-official Yokohoma Specie Bank concealed accounts held for the Bank of Japan, the Japanese Government,

and the puppet Federal Reserve Bank of North China. At its highest
point on April 10, 1940, the secret account held for Japan amounted
to $111,000,000 while $3,000,000 was held for puppet North China.
For the last two years, the Yokohoma Specie Bank of New York bought
and sold American securities and these transactions were not reported.
These facts were discovered by the New York Federal Reserve Bank

almost by pure chance. A thorough investigation lasting several
months proved necessary to secure the complete story. It is
entirely possible that the Japanese have other hidden accounts
in the United States which only a complete census of Japanese
funds would reveal.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 12, 1940.

Mr. White

TO

FROM

Subject:

Mr. Kamarck

Cooperation of the Bank of America with the Japanese.

1. Available information indicates that the Bank of America has
become the financial agent through which the Japanese are paying

their diplomatic, consular and probably espionage activities in
Europe, Africa, and Western Asia. We have data on a long list of
transfers of Japanese funds by the Bank of America to Japanese
representatives throughout most of the world.

On November 8, 1940, for example, the following series of
transfers took place:
$1,000 to the Japanese Legation, Berne
$4,000 to the Japanese Embassy, Moscow
$3,000 to the Japanese Legation, Panama

$18,000 to the Spanish Legation, Madrid, Account "A"
$3,000 to the Spanish Legation, Madrid, Account "B".
On November 12th, money was sent to the following places:
$800 to Japanese Legation, Berne
$5,000 to Isak Adato, Geneva
$1,800 to Japanese Legation, Lisbon.

2. The Bank of America now takes care of most of the Japanese
business in San Francisco.

Over a year ago, the accounts of private Japanese firms were
transferred to the Bank of America from the Bank of California.
The latter bank prior to this time had had close and profitable
banking relationships with Japanese concerns for over half a
century. The Bank of America is now understood to be extending

liberal credit facilities to the Japanese.

In November, 1940, the semi-official Yokohoma Specie Bank of

San Francisco transferred all of its business from the Bank of
California to the Bank of America. This completed the centralizing
of the most important Japanese accounts in the Bank of America.

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Canada

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 12, 1940
Mr. White
FROM

Miss Kistler and Mr. Adler

Subject: Canadian Foreign Exchange Control

The Foreign Exchange Control Board for Canada was established on
September 15, 1939. The Bank of Canada was appointed technical advisor

to the Board and authorized to act as its agent or banker. The Board was
given the necessary powers to regulate all foreign exchange transactions
between residents of Canada and the outside world and take over the resources of the Exchange Fund created in 1935.

1. Objectives of Foreign Exchange Control
a.

To insure that the foreign exchange accruing from exports will
be available to the Board to purchase essential imports and
meet other Canadian commitments abroad.

b. To prevent the flight of capital in order to conserve Canadian
foreign exchange resources and to prevent disorganization of
security markets.

C. To stabilize the rates of exchange between the Canadian dollar
and the major foreign currencies.

d. To insure that commercial and financial transactions with the
British Empire take place in Empire currencies.
The basic principle underlying the orders and regulations of the

Canadian Foreign Exchange Board is that no transactions between Canada
and non-residents of Canada involving foreign exchange or financial

dealings shall be effected without coming under the supervision of the
Foreign Exchange Control Board. All foreign exchange received by residents
of Canada is required to be sold to, and all purchases of foreign exchange
are required to be made from, an authorized dealer. The emergencies of
the Board are directed toward obtaining and conserving as large an amount
of United States dollars as possible because the United States is the one
country with which Canada has a large debit in its balance of international
payments.

2. General Regulations

a. Residents of Canada may not buy or sell foreign exchange except
through the Board or its agents and at uniform rates prescribed

by the Board. Permits are required both for exports and for
imports. All imports or exports of goods and services must be

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b. Residents may not dispose of foreign assets to non-residents
except for payment in foreign exchange, nor transfer Canadian
dollars to non-residents except with the Board's permission.

C. Residents were required to declare their holdings of securities
and foreign exchange as of September 15, 1939.

Residents were required to sell all foreign exchange in their

d.

possession as of April 30 by June 1 under the Foreign Exchange

Acquisition Order of April 30, 1940.

e.

The Board designates to the Authorized Dealers the buying and

selling rates for foreign exchange. Since the inception of
control, they have been as follows:

U. S. dollars, buying rate

U. S. dollars, selling rate

Pounds sterling, buying rate
Pounds sterling, selling rate

10% premium
11% premium
4.43
4.47

3. Mechanics of Operation

&. Licensing agents. Every customs office and post office was made
a licensing agency. No imports can be cleared and delivered to
the importers without a Foreign Exchange Control Board permit.
Likewise, no exports can be cleared from Canada without a Foreign
Exchange Control permit. Unless exports are made under a general
export license or a special export-import license, the permit must
be signed by the Collector of Customs and Excise at the Customs

Frontier Port of Exist before the cargo is cleared. If the export
is made under a general license, the permit must be submitted

within six days of clearance. If the export is made under a
special export-import license no permit is submitted to the
Collector of Customs and Excise, but the operator is required to
make a monthly return to the Foreign Exchange Control Board and
Board examiners have the authority to examine his books and

records in order to verify his reports. The use of the Customs
Division and Post Office was a natural and obvious step in any
system of control over goods entering or leaving Canada.

b. Authorized Dealers. Every chartered bank in Canada was made an
authorized dealer by the Board; the Bank of Canada serves as a

technical advisor. The fact that there are only ten chartered

banks and that Canada has a branch banking system, facilitated
the establishment of the system of authorized dealers for the
collection and payment of foreign exchange.
4. Exemptions from License Requirements

a. Exports. No export license or permit is required in the following
cases.

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(1) For export of goods having a value not exceeding $25 where
payment is received in foreign currencies.

(2) For goods passing through Canada "in transit for export"
without entry at Customs.
(3) Goods taken out by a non-resident tourist, not exceeding
$100 in value per person.

(4) Personal effects taken out by travellers.

b. Imports. No licenses for the import of goods are required in the
following cases:

(1) For the import of goods having the value not exceeding $25
where payment is made in foreign currency.

(2) For goods passing through Canada "in transit for export"
without entry at Customs.
(3) Goods to a total value not exceeding $100 imported by any
person in any calendar month.
(4) Personal effects belonging to and necessary for any person
entering Canada.

C. Insurance

1. No permit is required for any payment in Canadian dollars to,
or to the order of, a non-resident by any life insurance
company authorized to do business in any part of Canada,
where such payment is made by the company in pursuance of an

insurance policy, annuity, or other contract of a similar
nature. This provision extends to any insurance policy,
annuity, or other similar contract entered into prior to
September 16, 1939.

2. No interference is made with the maintenance of payments in
foreign exchange by insurance companies when the obligation

of the company is to make payment in foreign exchange. Life
insurance companies authorised to do business in any part of
Canada and in any country outside Canada are authorized to
continue the conduct of their business in accordance with
their normal procedure.

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5. offences and Penalties
It is an offence under the Foreign Exchange Control Order to make a
false statement in any application; to deceive or mislead the Board or an
or a Customs and Excise or
the provisions of the
authorized concerned in dealer the administration Collector of of Order; any other to fail person

to comply with the conditions of any license or permit or to violate any
provision of the Order or any Regulation of the Board.

Everyone guilty of an offence is liable to a fine up to $2,000 or to

imprisonment up to one year or to both fine and imprisonment, and in

addition, if any person, contrary to the provisions of the Order, imports

or attempts to import into Canada any goods or other property or buys or
attempts
buy any foreign exchange, such goods and foreign exchange are
liable to to
forfeiture.
6. Personnel and Organization

Organisation arrangements for foreign exchange control had been carefully worked out in Canada in advance. This enabled exchange control to
be established on the morning of September 16 with a minimum of inconvenience
and dislocation to business.
As soon as exchange control was established, the Board called together
a group of experienced men from banks, financial institutions, chartered
accountant firms, investment dealers, trust companies, insurance companies
and various government departments. Men with wide professional and

industrial experience took charge of the section of the Board for which
they were best qualified.
The Foreign Exchange Control Board consists of the following members:
Chairman, Graham Towers, Governor of the Bank of Canada

Dr. W. C. Clark, Deputy Minister of Finance
H. Fortier, Chief Inspector Post Office Department
N. A. Robertson, First Secretary, Department of External Affairs
H. D. Scully, Commissioner of Customs

L. D. Wilgress, Director of Commercial Intelligence
There are three branch offices, at Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal,
employing forty people.

The bulk of Canadian foreign exchange transactions originate in
Montreal and Toronto but most of the control work is done in Ottawa.
The Board is composed of the following sections:
(a) The Canadian Payment Section deals with exports sold
for payment in Canadian dollars, issuing special
permits for this purpose. Three thousand such permits
have been issued. This section employs ten people.

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(b) The Central File Section employs twenty-two people.
(c) The Commercial Section is concerned with the transactions
of companies which operate under special export-import
licenses and report on a monthly or periodic basis instead

of using forms for each individual transaction. This sytem

is employed for companies having a large volume of transactions and was adopted in order to relieve them of the
burden of the routine which would have been necessary if
individual forms for each transaction had been required.
Up to the end of June 1940 a total of 4,500 such organiza-

tions had been granted permits of this kind. The work of this
section is divided into five groups as follows:
(1) Examiners - dealing with foreign currency bank accounts

(2) Investigation of records of the special permit holders
(3) Grain trade

(4) Approvals of interest and dividends paid by such
companies, especially as they affect non-residents
(5) General

The Commercial Section also has supervision over the
Montreal and Toronto branches of the Board. The number
of persons employed is 108.

The problem of controlling and supervising the foreign
trade and foreign exchange activities of the larger corporations and companies engaging in numerous international

transactions might at first sight have appeared exceedingly
cumbersome, if not untractable. But the device of special
licenses and periodic examination by the Commercial Section
which was substituted for scrutiny of individual transactions
has apparently provided a satisfactory solution of the
problem and contributed to the efficient functioning of
the exchange control system.

(d) The Traffic Section maintains liaison with various government departments such as the Post Office Department, the
Department of National Revenue, Board of Transport Commissioners,
National Harbors Board and the Custodian of Enemy Property.
It employs 12 persons.
(e) The Enforcement Section cooperates with other government

agencies in enforcing foreign exchange control for which

it has the prime responsibility. It has a staff of 17.

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(f) The Foreign Exchange Section maintains contacts with the
authorized dealers and settles foreign exchange policy.

It has a staff of 47.

(g) The General Section has a staff of 23 people.
(h) The Insurance Section has a staff of 5 persons.

(i) The Intelligence Section handles problems of public relations.
There are 4 people employed.

(j) The Matching Section (Examining Section) examines, matches

and disposes of copies of forms. The device of matching the
"Declaration of Goods Exported" Form provides an excellent
means for assuring that the Board will receive the foreign
exchange accruing from exports. While the "Application for
License to Import" Form is also matched with the "Application
for Foreign Exchange" Form, the matching process here is not
so important, as the Board retains more foreign exchange if
an application for license to import is not followed through

with an application for foreign exchange. It also records
information supplied by residents on their holdings of foreign
exchange and securities. It has a staff of 115.

(k) The Mail Section employs 14 people.
(1) The Office Organization Section employs 2 people.

(m) The Securities Section supervises all transactions in foreign
securities on the part of residents. It employs 11 people.
(n) The Secretary Section employs 20 people.

(o) The Statistical Section analyzes and classifies the forms

involving foreign exchange transactions and representing
transfers of Canadian dollars to the accounts of non-residents.

(p) The Translation Section employs 5 people.
(q) The Temporary Section deals with the Foreign Exchange

Acquisition Order of May 4, 1940. A staff of 24 people is
employed.

All in all the Canadian Foreign Exchange Control Board employs a total
of 509 people. The 509 people were recruited as follows:
On loan from Bank of Canada

Civil Service
outside firms

.

"

"
"

Temporary employees

20
6

33

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Expenses of the Foreign Exchange Board for a normal year, after
eliminating special organizational expenses or items of a non-recurring
nature,
are expected to total about $1.1 million. This amount will be
accounted for as follows:
(In thousands)
Salaries

$758

(average salary is about
$1400 per annum)

Stationery and printing

150

Rentals

53

Telegrams and telephone
Traveling expenses
Sundries

52
50

37

7. The Board and Canadian-American Economic Relations

Canadian international transactions total 84 billion to $5 billion per
year of which almost half is accounted for by foreign trade. Two countries the United Kingdom and the United States -- dominate the international transaction of Canada. More than half of all Canada's international transactions

are conducted with the United States and almost one-third with the United
Kingdom. Therefore, the problem of foreign exchange control largely resolves

itself into the supervision and control of transactions with these two countries.
In the case of England the problem is further simplified through the intimate

cooperation of the Canadian Foreign Exchange Control Board with the British
Exchange Control and the exchange controls of sterling area countries. As
Canada's balance of payments is favorable with England and the sterling area,
and unfavorable with the United States, and as sterling is not now freely
convertible into U. S. dollars, the mainttask of the Board is to conserve
Canadian holdings of U. S. dollars.

The Board is motivated by two decisive factors:

a. The desire to lose as small, and to acquire as large, an
amount of U. S. dollars as possible.

(1) There has been a trend in the direction of tightening
up regulations to prevent loss of foreign exchange
on service and trade items.

(1) Traveling by Canadians in the United States has
been drastically restricted and exchange for
travel is now granted in limited amounts only

for business, educational, official, medical,

and scientific purposes.

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(ii) Restrictions on the imports of goods not urgently

needed for Canada's war effort have recently been

imposed. The import of certain categories of

goods from the United States has been entirely

prohibited and of others restricted; these
restrictions and prohibitions are in addition
to the 10 percent War Tax on imports.

(2) Positive encouragement is given to U. S. tourist
expenditures in Canada, and to the investment of
U. S. dollars in new Canadian enterprises. New
capital invested in Canada can be withdrawn at a
later date in foreign exchange.

b. The desire to preserve amicable political and economic relations with the United States.
(1) A reciprocal agreement between Canada and the United
States was reached on June 18, 1940 providing for

reciprocal exemption from certain aspects of the exchange control regulations for American residents in
Canada and for Canadian residents in the United States.

American citizens resident in Canada are exempted from
the Foreign Exchange Control Order of September 15, 1939,
from the Foreign Exchange Acquisition Order of April 30,

1940, and from any future orders respecting the acquisition and disposition of foreign currency and foreign
securities held by such individual Americans. This
exemption does not apply to corporations nor to foreign
exchange received in connection with exports from or
imports into Canada of other than exempted property.
(2) In the case of transactions between parent and subsidiary companies, a special license only is required
and individual transactions are not subject to S crutiny, but
there is periodic examination of company books. Most
of the companies involved are American companies with

affiliates in Canada and Canadian companies with affiliates
in the United States. However, the Board does not approve
applications for foreign exchange which would reduce the
"capital employed" in Canadian subsidiaries.

(3) While applications for licenses for foreign exchange to
pay interest and dividends to non-resident investors

must be made thirty days in advance, no obstruction
is placed in the way of payment of interest and dividends
to American investors. Furthermore, the Board sells
foreign exchange for payment of services such as
insurance premiums, agents' commissions, salaries,

freights, dues, patent rights, traveling expenses, etc.

A large part of these payments of foreign exchange on
service items goes to the United States.

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(4) Foreign holders of Canadian balances are allowed to use

them freely within Canada itself. (This in sharp

contrast with the United States Foreign Fund Control.)
The desire to accomodate American interests and to preserve U. S.
dollar exchange cannot always be easily reconciled and the difficulties in
the way might oven increase with the extension of Canada's war effort.
8. Comments

a. The imposition of exchange control in Canada raised many problems.

(1) Exports constitute from 15 percent to 20 percent of the
national income.

(2) The value of the items on service account in the balance

of international payments is relatively high.

(3) The intimacy of economic relations with the United States
both on trade, service, and capital account and the extent
of the common land frontiers with the United States make
administration and enforcement complex.

(4) The former triangle ot economic relationships between the

United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom has been
broken. Canada consequently has to make new provisions both

to meet its mounting unfavorable balance of international
payments with the United States and to utilize its accumu-

lation of sterling balances.

(5) Canadian exchange control started from S cratch as far as
trained personnel and administrative precedent and experience
in Canada in related sphere were concerned.
b. The Foreign Exchange Control Board has tackled these problems with
a reasonable degree of success and without imposing undue strain
and restrictions on the functioning of the Canadian economy.
(1) The mechanism of foreign trade has not been disturbed by
the functioning of the exchange control system. The
exporter sells his foreign exchange to the Authorized
Dealer, who happens to be the bank with which he had
always conducted his business.

(2) Payments of interest and dividends to foreigners can be
made on application for a license thirty days in advance.
(3) Insurance companies are allowed to carry on their foreign
operations without disturbance. Life insurance companies
are expected to report their net foreign exchange position
on a quarterly basis.

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(4) Economic intercourse with the United States was allowed
to continue unhampered except for

(i) Restrictions on certain categories of non-essential
imports.

(ii) Prohibition of Canadian pleasure expenditure in the
U.S.

(5) Dealings are freely permitted between Canadian companies and

their foreign affiliates.

(6) The Board is a useful instrument to facilitate the repatriation of British-held Canadian securities. The repatriation

of these securities is the means by which Canada's favorable
balance with the U. K. is being liquidated. The Board
supervised and carried through the orderly repatriation of
$200 million of British-held Canadian securities in the

first year of War.

(7) The imposition and enforcement of exchange control raised no

difficult administrative and personnel problems. The
preparation for the introduction of the exchange control

system were carried through expeditiously and secretly and
the system went into effect without unfavorable repercussions
on the Canadian economy. Trained and competent personnel
was recruited from the Civil Service, banks and industry, so
that experienced men were in key positions from the very

beginning. The use of existing facilities and institutions
contributed to the efficiency of the control system. Simpli-

fication and standardization of routine reduced the administrative complexities and the volume of work. The Board has
been able to adequately cope with the different tasks and
problems arising from a variety of the transactions and of
the types of corporations and individuals it had to deal
with. The administering exchange control in Canada has been

negligible and runs at the rate of about $1.1 million per

annum.

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Italy

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 12, 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. White

Subject: Italian treatment of American property interests.
American owners of enterprises and investments in Italy have
been treated moderately well in comparison with the treatment
accorded them in Germany.

1. The Italians have serviced by far the greater part
of their United States-held dollar bonds.

2. There has been relatively little difficulty in with-

drawing short-term American assets in Italy though
Americans have never held any considerable short-term

funds in that country in recent years for fear of

blocking.

3. Regular remittance of dividends from the operations
of American branch plants in Italy has not been permitted
since 1935. On the other hand the Italian Exchange
Control has granted a considerable number of exemptions
and special permissions.

Total American holdings in Italy are under $140 million. Shortterm American assets in Italy are now only about $3, 300,000.
American holdings of Italian dollar bonds are now less than
$70 million; the low quotations on these securities indicate
that Americans have been accepting losses in order to repatriate
their funds. American direct investments in Italy are less
than $70 million.

Total Italian holdings in this country are about $90 million.
These holdings in the United States include about $19 million
in short-term funds, about $37 million in security holdings,

and about 834 million in direct investments.
In recent months the Italians have even outdone the Germans in
turning their assets in this country into United States Government bonds, cash and accounts held in the names of Latin
American countries. Obviously, the Italians desired to conceal the exact nature of the transactions in which they were
engaging and feared that their assets in this country would
be subjected to licensing control.

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Remi ttance
I

Data

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 12, 1940
TO

Mr. H. D. White

FROM

G. A. Eddy

Subject:

Personal Remittances to Germany, Italy and Japan.

Little information is now available on 1940 remittances to the

Axis powers.

The Department of Commerce estimate for 1939 were:

Japan $6 million ($4 personal, $2 institutional)
Italy 20 million (of which $13.5 was through Italo-U.S. banks,
which report once yearly.)
Germany 7.5 - 10 million

Reports on only two sources of remittances are available before the
end of the year. A table is attached showing Postal Money Orders to the
three countries during the first eleven months of 1940. Nothing specially
significant seems to be indicated.
The American Express remittances of marks and lire are also shown

in a table attached. Some increase in the rate of sending marks in recent
months is explained as due to remittances through New York to Chinese
and Japanese students in Berlin, who formerly obtained their funds through
Amsterdam.

Attachments

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Postal Money Orders - 1940

Germany

Italy

Japan

$14,272

$253,940

$123,500

April/June

5,885

183,736

106,200

July/September

3,604

90,000

99,700

October

1,100
105,000

73,600

$632,776

$403,000

January/March

)

)

November

3,000

}

$27,860

Note: November Normally includes a pre-Christmas increase.

Treasury Department,

Division of Monetary Research,
December 12, 1940.

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American Express Company Remittances

In thousands of dollars
Jan./July

Aug./Nov.

Total Jan./Nov.

To Germany

Regid., gift, and
support marks

15 15.6

362

332

694

16 - 16.6

76

137

213

56

51

107

494

520

1,014

463

1,285

334

334

180

36

216

1,002

833

1,835

Travel marks
Free marks (money

orders) (40)

Total to Germany

To Italy

Emigrant lire (4.05%) 822

Internal lire
(since Sept. only)
3.9$

Free lire 5.07
Total to Italy

0

To Japan - no data

Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research.

Dec. 12, 1940

American Express Company Remittances of Marks and Lire
Reg. Marks

Gift & Support Mks.

Travelmarks

Free Marks
M.O.only

1940

Emigrant Lire

Internal Lire

Free Lire
M.O.only

Jan.

293,841.

27,400.

24,463.

1,845,717.

588,117.

Feb.

323,694.

20,272.

17,920.

3,023,359.

575,397.

Mar.

414,678.

22,579.

26,091.

4,164,513.

826,469.

Apr.

337,261.

18,353.

26,242.

2,854,760.

492,027.

May

354,888.

30,427.

13,114.

3,280,487.

595,292.

June

367,365.

148,495.

13,722.

2,468,528.

July

324,533.

212,402.

18,996.

2,656,858.

Aug.

378,386.

253,056.

28,053.

3,493,781.

Sept.

345,057.

213,724.

14,853.

2,892,598.

1,620,743.

96,138.

Oct.

506,213.

219,494.

44,592.

2,313,685.

3,135,523.

140,176.

Nov.

801,504.

124,298.

39,375.

2,729,059.

3,814,407.

59,890.

1,284,494.

267,421.

31,723,345.

8,570,673.

4,264,267.

@ .1660

@ .4005

0.0390

@.0507

$213,226.

$107,102.

$334,256.

$216,198.

Total- 4,447,420.
@ .1560

Dollar

Equiv. $693,797.

Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research

@.0405

$1,284,795.

258,206.

-

---

221,839.
411,716.

-

December 12, 1940.

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Foreign Funds in

the United States

301
Funds in the United States of Germany,
Italy, Japan, Rumania and Hungary

(In Millions of Dollars)
Total of
known

-

-

-

-

27.1

ites States securities
t and other investments
Total

15.

37.

84.

34.

107

89.9

?

.6

115.8
4.2

120

24.9

?

.3

.6
.6

52.2

1

4.8

1/

170.5
5.1
52.

118.

?

18.2

?

In liew York Fed. Res. Dist.
In other districts

?

vate funds:

12/4/40

-

?

6.8

At other New York banks

27.1

-

?

.5

.1

.2

?

.4

?

ficial funds:
it New York Fed. Res. Bank

-

?

-

1d on earmark

items

:

Germany: Italy: Japan: Rumania: Hungary:

4.8

Date

12/4/40
11/27/40
11/27/40
11/13/40
10/31/40
12/31/39

373.9

on September 25, 1940. Deposits only.
reasury Department, Division of Monetary Research

December 12, 1940.

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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

December 12, 1940.

STRICTLY

CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Mr. Secretary:

Because of the current interest in the subject, we have
recently undertaken a study of the gold and dollar resources of the
British Empire and the extent to which these assets are being depleted.

I should like to take this opportunity to forward to the Treasury the
results of this study.
At the start of the war the British Empire was armed with an
estimated $5,500,000,000 of gold and other readily available assets

which could be used for purchases in the United States. In addition,
something like $1,500,000,000 of direct investments in American busi-

ness enterprises and other less liquid investments were held for
British Empire account. The readily marketable assets are shown by
countries in Table I below.

END DEC OF VII a 22

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December 12, 1940.

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK

TABLE I

Estimates of

British Empire Holdings of Gold and Dollar Assets
At Outbreak of War

(In Millions of Dollars)
United

Other
Empire

Kingdom

Canada

-

-

2,000
2,000

215

520

215

520

55

50

540

305

595

555

1.165

565

3.760

1.135

TOTAL

Gold Reserves

Under earmark here
Elsewhere

Total

-

-

2.735
2,735

Short Term Assets

Official

Private
Total

-

105

100(est.)
100(est.)

1,050

45(est.)

1,775

945

Negotiable Long Term

Securities (Market
Value) (a)
GRAND TOTAL

665

5.560

(a) Based on Department of Commerce estimates for the end of 1939,
adjusted for sales and changes in market value between the
end of August, 1939 and the end of the year.

Dollar Outlays by the British Empire During First Year of War
While an analysis of the trade balance between the United States and
the sterling area throws some light on the rate at which these resources have

been depleted, this method has many shortcomings. In the first place, of
course, the invisible items in the balance of payments must also be taken into
account. Moreover, allowance must be made for British pre-payments on orders

and advances for plant construction in this country. The more accurate method
would be to determine the total amount of payments out of all Empire accounts

maintained in this country, thereby automatically taking into account all items

in the balance of payments. If it is assumed that all substantial payments of

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December 12, 1940.

301

dollars are made through the official accounts at this bank, much information can be gathered from an examination of these accounts. We, therefore,
undertook a comprehensive analysis of the accounts at this bank of the

British, Canadian, Australian, and South African authorities.
This analysis revealed total dollar payments out of these accounts

during the first year of war of $2,100,000,000, after adjustment for interaccount and intra-Empire transfers. Of this amount, $1,800,000,000, or about

85 per cent of the total, went through the British account; one third of it,
1. e., $600,000,000, can be identified as expenditures by the British Purchasing Commission and various other Governmental agencies engaged in buying

American goods. Not all of this, it must be borne in mind, shows up in our
trade figures (see Table II below), since, as suggested above, considerable
amounts have been advanced to American industry, particularly aircraft concerns, to develop new productive capacity. We understand very confidentially
that, as of the end of last November, the British Purchasing Commission had
outstanding on its books advances against supplies in the amount of $483,000,000
and, in addition, "capital assistance" payments of $134,000,000.

In addition to the $600,000,000 of expenditures in connection with

official British purchases of war material, the British authorities paid out
$1,200,000,000 for all kinds of other purposes, such as customary British
imports (other than official purchases) and other items in the balance of
payments for which the British exchange control will supply dollar exchange,

including the settlement of maturing forward sales contracts of dollars

entered into by the British control during the period of severe strain on
sterling in the months leading up to the actual outbreak of hostilities.
Dollar outlays to cover this short forward position in dollars occurred
mainly in October and November, 1959 and probably totaled something like

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December 12, 1940.

$150,000,000.

Aside from the $1,800,000,000 total outlays made by the British authorities, the Bank of Canada paid a total of $300,000,000 out of its account
at this bank during the year ended August 28, 1940, and dollar outlays through
the Commonwealth Bank of Australia's account aggregated $30,000,000. The

South African authorities, on the other hand, made only negligible dollar disbursements directly through this bank during the period.

As to the weekly rate at which these payments for account of the

British Empire were made, it is of interest to note that the collapse of
French resistance in June necessarily placed an added burden on the British

Empire. During France's participation in the war, combined dollar disburse-

ments out of the official British, Canadian, and Australian accounts at this
bank were at an average weekly rate of about $34,000,000. In addition to this,
the French authorities were disbursing dollars at the rate of $20,000,000 a

week. Since the French capitulation the weekly rate of official British Empire
spending has advanced to nearly $70,000,000, or considerably in excess of the
combined Empire-French outlays prior to mid-June. This again demonstrates

the fact revealed in the last war that war expenditures tend to increase progressively as hostilities continue.

Although, as mentioned above, it is impossible accurately to estinate British Empire spending in this country by an analysis of the trade
balance alone, an examination of the month-to-month trade between the United

States, on the one hand, and the sterling area together with other British
Empire countries, on the other, at least gives some indication of the rate
at which deliveries are being made on British Empire orders.

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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK

TABLE II

United States Trade with Sterling Area and
Other British Empire Countries

(In Millions of Dollars)
1938 1939
U. S.
Exports

U. S.
Imports

104.5
122.9
103.8
102.7
85.9
82.9
97.8
89.1
99.9
96.5
96.3
109.4

55.2
63.5
59.1
56.7
62.6
52.3
66.9
63.4
72.1
64.1
62.3
61.5

TOTAL 1,191.7

739.5

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

Jan.
Feb.
Mar.

Apr.
May

June

July
Aug.

Net

Exports
49.3
59.4
44.7
46.0
23.3

U. S.

Net Exports

1939 1940
U. S.

1939-40
Net

Exports Imports Exports

as Percent
of 1938-39

50.6
30.9
25.7
27.8
52.4
34.0
48.1

134.1
158.4
103.3
121.9
137.5
128.2
126.4
130.1
138.2
167.5
202.2
221.1

74.4
79.6
80.4
92.6
90.7
72.4
85.1
83.9
83.3
94.3
102.9
91.3

22.9
29.3
46.6
55.8
41.3
46.2
54.9
73.2
99.3
129.8

270

452.2

1,748.7

1,030.9

717.8

159

59.7

121

58.8

99
51

64

200
182
154

180
197
226
292

Total American exports to British Empire countries during the first
year of war amounted to $1,750,000,000 (or about $550,000,000 in excess of the

previous year). American imports from the British Empire in the same period
totaled $1,050,000,000 (or $300,000,000 over the previous year , reflecting

largely the accumulation of vital raw materials, particularly rubber and tin,
for reserve stocks). It should be borne in mind, however, that during the early
months of the British exchange control, it was possible for American importers

to pay for sterling area products with sterling acquired in the free market,
which, of course, reduced the amount of dollar exchange available to the British

control. We have estimated that during the first five months of the war the
equivalent of about $200,000,000 of the $250,000,000 due the Empire on American

imports was paid for in free market sterling. As a result of the series of new

30s

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December 12, 1940.

restrictions, beginning on March 8, which were designed to canalize exchange

transactions through the official market, this loss of exchange has now been

virtually eliminated. Nevertheless, the net amount of dollars which the
British exchange authorities had to supply for American exports during the
first year of the war must have been well in excess of our $720,000,000 export surplus which the above table indicates.

Examining this "favorable" balance, it will be seen that during
most of the war months in 1939 our net exports were actually below those of
the comparable months in 1938. With the turn of the year, however, there
was a contra-seasonal expension in our exports and, with no sizable increase
in our imports, our export surplus by this summer had risen to more than
double the comparable 1959 months.

Method of Financing Spending in United States

Now, how did the British Empire finance its dollar expenditures?

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TABLE III

Financing of British Empire Spanding
in the United States
-First Year of War-

(In millions of dollars)
United
Kingdom

Means of Financing
Sales of Gold
Sales of American
Securities
Other Receipts

Australia

TOTAL

1,772

306

27

2,105

1,356

413

30

1,799

211

71(c)

240(b)

6

)

Total Dollar Outlays (a)

Canada

528

}

)

Total Receipts

1,807

484

35

178

1,772

306

56

2,527

Less:

Net Increase in Dollar
Balance at Federal
Reserve Bank(a)
Net

9

27

222

2,105

(a) Adjusted for interaccount and intra-Empire transfers.
(b) Includes about $116,000,000 transferred from accounts of
British authorized banks with New York banks.
(c) Includes $59,000,000 transferred from British Purchasing
Commission to Bank of Canada for French account.

The British Empire has obviously relied chiefly on sales of gold to
finance its buying program in this country.
In the case of the United Kingdom alone, about $1,350,000,000 were

acquired through the liquidation of gold resources. As might be expected,
British holdings of American securities have been held as a secondary reserve
and selling thus far appears to have been dependent more on the condition of

our security markets than on the need for dollar exchange. According to the

figures reported weekly, net sales of American securities for *British" account aggregated $160,000,000. We have reason to believe, however, that these

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309

figures have underestimated the extent of the British selling. In the first
place, certain purchases have been reported under the United Kingdom, which

actuelly represented the buying of American securities by Swiss banks operating through London. A more important factor tending to underestimate the

amount of the British liquidation arises from the fact that a large part of
those securities requisitioned by the British Treasury have presumably been
sold, through private negotiation, to insurance companies, banks, and in some
cases even to the companies whose obligations are outstanding. Since these

sales are not likely to go through reporting channels, they have not been

adequately reflected in the reported weekly figures. By adjusting the reported figures on the basis of those payments to the official British accounts
at this bank, which we are reasonably sure represent the proceeds of security

sales, we estimate that the British acquired at least $200,000,000 through

security sales during the first year of war. Significantly, more than half
this amount was acquired during the first three months of the war, or prior

to the time the British authorities began to requisition private British holdings.

In addition to the acquisition of dollar exchange through sales of
gold and American securities, the British authorities received $243,000,000
through other sources, largely, no doubt, the requisitioning of dollar balances
held by private British accounts at the imposition of exchange control and also
the acquisition of dollars derived from exports.
In the case of Canada, their chief source of dollar exchange has

likewise been the sale of gold to the United States Treasury. Unlike the
British sales, however, the liquidation of Canadian gold has been far in excess of Canada's current needs. The Bank of Canada received over $400,000,000

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December 12, 1940

through gold sales, which should have virtually exhausted the Canadian mone-

tary reserves. Since the dollar balances of the Canadian authorities show a
net increase of $140,000,000 (excluding the receipt of $40,000,000 held for
French account) during the period, it is quite apparent that these sales
were motivated by other factors than the current need for exchange. This
action appears to be in sharp contrast with the United Kingdom's policy of
selling gold only to the extent needed to meet the immediate demand for dollars.

As regards Australia, the figures, as shown in the table above, are
small and call for no comment. Transactions for account of South Africa, as
said before, were negligible.
The Probable Future Course of British Empire Spending

After one year of war British Empire holdings of gold, balances,
and readily marketable American securities may be estimated at somewhat

around $4,000,000,000, or nearly $1,500,000,000 below the level at the start

of the war. Of this net reduction, $900,000,000 represented a net loss of
gold. The fact that the gold reserves declined by only $900,000,000 in the
face of total sales amounting to $1,800,000,000 is, of course, largely due to
the fact that new gold production in the Empire, amounting to $790,000,000

during the first year of war, became available for sale. In addition to the
new production, a considerable amount of privately hoarded gold was probably

acquired by the authorities after the imposition of restrictions. A breakdown of the estimated gold and dollar resources available to the Empire at
the end of last August is given in Table IV below.

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TABLE IV

Estimates of

British Empire Holdings of Gold and Dollar Assets
After One Year of War

(In Millions of Dollars)

(As of End of August, 1940)
United
Kingdom

Canada

Other
Empire

Net

Total

Change

Gold Reserves

Under earmark here

60

1.125
1,185

Elsewhere

Total

-

-

60

40

610

40

610

1,775
1,835

-

900

Short Term Assets

Official

90

Private
Total

280

190( (a)
170

370

360

920

505

2,475

905

10

120 (est.)
130 (est.)

290
570

860

- 190

35

1,460

- 315

775

4,155

- 1,405

Negotiable Long Term

Securities (Mkt. Value)

GRAND TOTAL

(a) In addition, the Canadian authorities apparently
held about $40,000,000 at the Federal Reserve
Bank for French account.

(b) Based on Department of Commerce estimates for the
end of 1939, adjusted for sales and changes in

market values since that time.

How long will these resources last? This question cannot, of course,
be answered unequivocally, since any projection into the future must take

into account not only the rate at which future orders will be placed and advances made, but also the amount of advance payments outstanding at present,

against which future deliveries will be made. Furthermore, the extent to

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312

which the British will provide support to their latest ally, Greece, will
greatly affect future spending. We have, therefore, attempted to determine
only the maximum duration of the present rate of spending. Since the French
capitulation, the United Kingdom has been suffering a loss of gold and American
assets of about $60,000,000 a week. When the rest of the Empire is included,
the loss has probably averaged close to $70,000,000 a week. Against these losses,
the British Empire has been acquiring about $15,000,000 a week in newly-mined

gold. The weekly net drain has, therefore, been approximately $55,000,000.

Assuming that this rate is, at least, maintained-and there are many indications

that it will be increased this year-the resources which were available to the
British Empire for its essential purchases abroad at the end of last August can
hardly last beyond the early part of 1942. This would furthermore assume that

the British Empire is prepared to continue spending until its last dollar is gone,

and that the British authorities will actually have access to all private British
holdings of dollars which have been included in these calculations. Both assump-

tions may be a little unrealistic. The critical point, therefore, probably will
come sooner than this study would indicate.

Which

Faithfully yours,

L. W. Knoke,

Vice President.

Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

in

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December 13, 1940
9:30 a.m.
GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Wiley

Mr. Pehle
Mr. Graves
Mr. Young

Mr. Bell

Mr. Thompson

Mr. Foley
Mr. Chamberlain
Mr. Gaston

Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Haas

Mr. White

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

Well, Herbert, how are you?

Gaston:

Very well.

H.M.Jr:

Have a good trip?

Gaston:

Yes. I can give you a little report today
any time.

H.M.Jr:

I want to see you, if you will stay behind a

minute; I want to ask your advice on something.
Gaston:

Yes, I haven't any public business.

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Foley?

Foley:

Mr. Secretary, we have looked into the question
of that advertising of that Army and Navy
whiskey.

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-2H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Foley:

And I don't think that there is any legal

ground for the action that Berkshire took.
Berkshire sent two or three telegrams to these

people, the distributor and the two distillers
that bottled this stuff, and has peremptorily
revoked the label.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

Foley:

Now, there is no procedure in the law for doing

H.M.Jr:

that.

Good for Berkshire. I always knew he was a good

man.

Foley:

And I don't think we can sustain his action. I
understand that Congressman McGranery of Pennsylvania,

who used to be United States Attorney up in

Philadelphia, has already gotten in touch with
Berkshire protesting. There is a procedure --

H.M.Jr:

Well, I am surprised at Berkshire. He is a good
attorney.

Foley:

Well, he sent these telegrams out without clearing
them with the Legal Division.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

Foley:

There is a procedure for disciplining a fellow
by revoking his distributor's license where he

engages in questionable practices through advertising.
There is a procedure there whereby a complaint is

filed, a notice of hearing is given, a hearing is

held and testimony taken, and for the first
offense the permit to distribute liquor may be
suspended; and for offenses after that, it may

be revoked entirely. I think since this offense
is in connection with advertising rather than in

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-3connection with the use of the label on the

bottle, the procedure in so far as discipline
in connection with advertising, the one that
should have been used rather than just to
peremptorily revoke the permit -H.M.Jr:

Well, mind you, I gave him no instructions how

to proceed. I just sent him the ad. I just

sent him over the ad. You know that, don't you?

Foley:

Well, I didn't know what had happened.

H.M.Jr:

Well, the ad came in, and I said to send it over
to Berkshire, with no instructions. I gave him
no instructions.

Foley:

After all, these people do have some investment

H.M.Jr:

I told him --

Foley:

They have been distributing liquor under that

H.M.Jr:

Just ask him what instructions he has got.

Foley:

I haven't spoken to him at all. I had the lawyer
for the Alchohol --

H.M.Jr:

I said to study it and come over in the morning
and talk to me.

Foley:

These are the telegrams.

H.M.Jr:

We will find out what message he got from them.

in this label.

label for five or six years.

That is all right. I brought it up at 9:30. I
took your advice. I didn't go out on the end

of a limb.
Foley:

No, you are not on the end of a limb.

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-4H.M.Jr:

We ought to help Berkshire out. You let me

Foley:

We had a talk yesterday with Walker Stone.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Foley:

know. What else?

And we set up a little committee composed of

Henry Murphy as Chairman, and Chuck Kades and

Ecker-Racz in John's section, and we are going
to get him the examples he wants and he is going
to put on a campaign and keep it up all during

the legislative session; and also he is going to
out a man on to write stories that appear in
publications. So they are ready to go ahead.
Here is a little memorandum about it.
Cochran:

I have this memo that you mentioned on the phone
last night. (December 12, Re telephone conversation

of same date with Sir Frederick Phillips.)

Sullivan:

Gulick was going to call this morning.

H.M.Jr:

Oh. Wiley?

Wiley:

We looked at the films yesterday afternoon that
I spoke of yesterday. These German films don't

seem to make any sense under any heading. There
were Army and Navy and Marine Corps representatives

present, and they don't seem to to be educational
films. They don't look dangerous, but no one
can make up his mind whether they are just very

harmless or not. I think there is going to be
a Colonel in the Army, who is a specialist on

South America, go into them more carefully.
H.M.Jr:

Good. That thing that Klaus gave me, I will
give back to you.

Pehle?

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-5Pehle:

Did you see the article in P. M. on
Wednesday on the State Department, an
editorial?

H.M.Jr:

No.

Pehle:

You might be interested in it. It is taken
from the Louisville Courier Journal. It is
very sharp.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I was told to read it, and I said I would
send for it.

Chamberlain: Mr. Secretary, I am informed there was another
which came out yesterday, which I expect to see

a little later in the day. It came out Thursday.

Pehle:

This is Wednesday.

Chamberlain: There is another, I understand, on Thursday; and
I am told there are other papers going to break,
expecting to break on the Department.
H.M.Jr:

Well, could somebody pick it up for me?

Pehle:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Schwarz is sick.

Chamberlain:

I will have to --

H.M.Jr:

Well, Pehle will do it.

Chamberlain:

Pehle will do it, yes.

White:

Are they critical or laudatory?

Pehle:

Very critical, particularly of the Assistant
Secretary. Welles, they say, is good; but he
doesn't have the feel of the international

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-6situation, and he is not very useful; but the
three assistants they just go after.
Wiley:

It goes far enough to say that Welles should
leave the Department also.

Chamberlain: What they say is that Welles ought to begin the
job of traveling ambassador in South America.
Wiley:

Roving ambassador.

White:

By air, so he can get around faster.

H.M.Jr:

A Justice of the Supreme Court called me up and

Pehle:

There is a controversy now going on with regard
to some Danish Boats, most of which are tied up
in these waters, and the dispute is between the
agents for the boats, Isbrandtsen and Moller,
New York City's agents, and Moller - the Moller

told me to get this, and then I forgot about it,
so I am glad I have it.

Company, which is a Danish Company which owns

the boats both sides are accusing the other of
representing the Germans. The Danish Legation
is supporting one side, and the State Department

in the past, at least, has more or less favored
the other. One side is now trying to charter

the boats to American interests through the
Maritime Commission, and the other side is trying
to charter the same boats for the Navy. The
lawyers were in here yesterday and tried to leave
an envelope addressed to you saying to be opened
when the agents call from New York, and gave you

authority to open it, and we took the matter up

with Mr. Foley and discussed it and decided
that we shouldn't accept anything on that

conditional basis, so they didn't leave it.

The envelope apparently contains papers turning
the whole group of boats over to you, so that
when --

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White:

Why didn't you take it? (Laughter)
What is the matter with the boats?

Pehle:

They are good boats, as a matter of fact.

H.M.Jr:

Yes,
they are, and I know what to do with them,
too.

Pehle:

They are good boats, but you would be taking it
from the agent, who may very well not have any

H.M.Jr:

authority over the boats at all any more; and
besides, you weren't given authority to open the
envelope at this time.

H.M.Jr:

Now listen, fellows, don't be fussy about those

boats. I know where to use them and we can take

them and argue about the title afterward. I am
not fooling - much. (Laughter)
Pehle:

Well, I raised the question because there is a
question as to whether we want to --

H.M.Jr:

I am serious. If we can lay our hands on that
fleet, the United States Navy will take them.

Then they would release an equal number to
whoever needs them. So if you can lay your hands

on these things, don't think of ways not to do
it, but think of somehow to lay your hands on
them.

Foley:

Well, we wanted to talk with you and find out
whether or not you wanted us to explore the thing

a little further. If the Maritime Commission,
for instance, is interested in working out a deal

with the British whereby they could buy them
and the British would immediately pay for them,
that money could go into the blocked account and
they could argue about it afterward.

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-8H.M.Jr:

But that isn't the play. The play is that

we will buy them, the United States Government,

from one of these agents. The whole thing, as I
get the story - and you can check it on this
thing - this thing is just because somebody

hasn't hit this thing and hit it hard. Everybody
is timid. The trouble is, the English won't

give a guarantee that if these boats are bought -

no, it is the other way around. If the English

buy them, there is no guarantee that the Germans

won't sink them. Now if we buy them, and they
become --

White:

The Germans will sink any boat with a British
flag.

H.M.Jr:

Put if we buy them, we buy them. That is what
I wanted to say.

"hite:

Yes. They would still consider them as enemy

ships even though we acquired title illegally,
they would claim.

H.V.Jr:

And my thought is to nut them on the Pacific run.

"hite:

And release other ships?

H.M.Jr:

With which there is no doubt as to the title on

White:

It sounds smart. I don't know. (Laughter)

Foley:

Yes, but I mean where are we going to get the

this side, see. Is that a nifty?

money to buy them?
H.M.Jr:

Jesse Jones, one of his many corporations.

White:

The money would be forthcoming from the sale of
the American ships.

Bell:

They have a construction loan fund.

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-9White:

Well, there would be some American ships released
and they would presumably be released for some
quid pro quo.

Pehle:

Those would be private ships, Harry?

White:

Well, somebody is going to pay for them.

H.M.Jr:

We will sell ships to the British, built in the
United States yards; and they will always be

United States ships. Let's say we sell 10 million
dollars worth of these ships. Isn't there some
corporation that that money could go to?

Bell:

Maritime Commission.

H.M.Jr:

Maritime Commission --

Foley:

The Maritime Commission could buy the ships if
they had the money.

H.M.Jr:

All right. Now, they will sell --

Foley:

Now, if they can find a purchaser, they could
take these boats over from Isbrandtsen and Moller
and then immediately turn them over to a purchaser --

H.M.Jr:

Who will operate them on the Pacific.

Foley:

Who will operate them on the Pacific, and the money

would go right back into this frozen account in

New York; and then Mr. Isbrandtsen and Mr. Moller

could fight that out as to which one of them had
title to the money.

White:

That is a little different pattern than what the
Secretary is describing and isn't that pattern
possible --

H.M.Jr:

No, that is what I had in mind.

Sullivan:

Well, why can't the --

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- 10 H.M.Jr:

The thing that everybody has been afraid of,
supposing we take those ships and then the
ships are sunk and then we are in trouble with
the Germans; but if we take these shins and
operate them in the Pacific where there are no

German raiders, I think it is pretty safe.

White:

I don't see where the payments into frozen funds
comes into that picture.

Poley:

Well, Harry, they have got to be paid for. You

White:

I see.

Foley:

And that is the proceeds from the sale to the
operator on the Pacific Coast, which would

just can't take them over from the Danes without
paying for them.

00 to the Maritime Commission to the Danes.
H.V.Jr:

What do you think, Professor Chamberlain, just

Chamberlain:

Just a horseback opinion, I should think that
would be a very good solution of the question,
but wouldn't --

H.V.Jr:

Could you put a little time on it today yourself?
If there is anything I can do, yes, I would be

Chamberlain:

a horseback opinion.

very glad to. I can talk it over with Mr. Pehle,
perhaps.

H.M.Jr:

Because if we can solve this, it would be

wonderful; because there is a tremendous need
for these ships, a tremendous need for these
ships.
Pehle:

Mr. Secretary, the Navy and the Varitime Commission

are now negotiating with these two parties. Now,
do you want us to get in that picture and see
what we can do, or do you want us to stay out?

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

Get in with both feet - and your brains.

Foley:

Why not let the British buy them, Mr. Secretary,
instead of buying the ships --

H.M.Jr:

They won't do it.

Foley:

Why? Any ships they have are going to be sunk

H.M.Jr:

You ask them. I don't know why, but they won't

Pehle:

The British won't buy them or the Danes won't

Foley:

The Danes sell them to the Maritime Commission,
and the Maritime Commission turns around and

by the Germans anyway.

do it.

sell them?

sells them to the British.

H.M.Jr:

But that is the thing which has been going on,
and the Danes won't do it.

Pehle:

Well, the Danish owner is in Denmark, Mr. Secretary,
and I assume he doesn't dare sell these boats to

the British.

H.M.Jr:

Exactly, but if we - that is the whole thing.

Nobody has thought this out. Then they say,

"Well, we won't buy them because if we buy them

and fly the American flag, the Germans will sink
them and then it is a cause of war," but I come
along with a brand new idea and say to the
Maritime Commission, "We will put these ships

on the Pacific run. Well, there isn't one chance

there in a hundred of them being sunk. Everybody
has had a fling at it, but nobody has made the
suggestion I am making.
White:

Ed, the other would be too transparent, if the

American Government were to buy these ships and

turn around and sell them directly to the

British; it would be too transparent. That is

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- 12 why I think there has to be some scheme like
the other
Secretary's
but
ships. of not using the same ships
Sullivan:

Or giving them planes and guns, what difference

H.M.Jr:

But the thing gets back to the Dane in Denmark,
who is there under the guns of the Germans. Now,
they will know in five minutes what happened.
They know before they even put the pen on it,

does it make?

but if the Dane can say, "This is going to the
United States, the United States is operating

these things in the Pacific," I will bet you

the sale goes through.
Gaston:

Is the Danish Minister willing to sell them?

H.M.Jr:

That I don't know, but the thing is the fellow

Foley:

There are some 40 odd ships, you know.

H.M.Jr:

And they are good ships.

Foley:

They are pretty good ships. They are 125,000

that is back in Denmark.

tons.

Pehle:

This particular line, Ed, there are only a small

number.
White:

Mr. Secretary, you might even give consideration
as an inducement if necessary, to pay for them

not in frozen funds, but in funds which will be
free, that the ships may be bought at sacrifice

if you can't get them any other way from the Danes.

The Germans might acquiesce.
H.M.Jr:

Yes, but I don't think Mr. Roosevelt would. He

is very strict about this. Try it my way. I

think you will find that the suggestion that I

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- 13 make will break the log jam. Who would
normally carry this?
Pehle:

On the sale question?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Pehle:

I think Foley.

H.M.Jr:

I do too. Get in on it Foley, fast, will you?
And consult with Professor Chamberlain and get
his advice.

White:

Since Jones will have to out up money somewhere,

H.M.Jr:

No --

White:

Won'+ he somewhere on the picture --

H.M.Jr:

I think the Maritime Commission has the money.

Bell:

They have a sizable appropriation. Whether it

H.M.Jr:

I would love to get this and if this works on
this, then these Esthonian ships that there is
so much fussing about --

Wiley:

Latvian ships.

White:

If Jones does happen to have to be in on it, the

usually --

is obligated or not, I don't know. It was 150
million dollars last year.

sooner he is in from the beginning the more

cooperative he is apt to be.
H.M.Jr:

Well, let Foley work on this thing, and just see
how he does. I don't think Jones has to get in
on it.

Pell:

I heard yesterday, Mr. Secretary, that there were

negotiations going on to sell the Italian ships

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in our harbors to the British.
H.M.Jr:

That is interesting.

Pehle:

Mr. Secretary, we have an application now from

the French to take $50,000 at this time out of
their government frozen funds here and give it

to the American Friends Service Committee to
be used by them in buying milk in Switzerland
for use among children in France.
H.M.Jr:

Now wait a minute, say it again, will you please?

Pehle:

The French Government, after Pickett had asked

them for the money, is willing to give him at

this time $50,000, and I believe $50,000 a month

hereafter, but this involves the initial payment,

which will be used by the American Friends
Service Committee in buying milk in Switzerland

for distribution among children in France. You

remember Pickett mentioned the matter when he

was here. Mr. Alphand, the French Financial
Attache came in yesterday, and he told me Pickett had
told him you approved the matter, which I didn't
think was what happened.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you were here.

Pehle:

Yes, that is right, and I told him that that

wasn't the case. Some time ago the Red Cross

told me that they had sufficient funds in
Switzerland to buy all the milk that is being
produced there, and were doing it. I asked

Mr. Pickett about that after we left the office

when he was here, and he said, as he had indicated

in here, that what they wanted to do was to buy
the milk un in advance, two or three months,

on the ground that the Germans were pressing
the Swiss to exchange coal for milk, and the

Swiss would then be in a position to say, "We
haven't got the milk, we have already sold it
to this American organization for distribution

in France. It was discussed last night in

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the committee. Mr. Wiley felt that it ought
to be approved and so did Dr. White. I feel
somewhat uneasy about it, because I think it is the

beginning of the use of French Government funds

for use in France, and there are all sorts of valid

uses they could have for those funds in France,
and - or in connection with France. They could
buy food in other areas.
H.M.Jr:

Is this frozen or unfrozen?

Pehle:

Frozen funds. It doesn't involve the blockade,
of course, because the milk is in Switzerland
and not on this side.

White:

There are certain unusual circumstances about

this, though, if you are going to disapprove,
which I would like to set before you before you

make up your mind.
H.M.Jr:

Just hold you horses a minute.

White:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

My inclination is to approve. I just want to
ask Professor Chamberlain.

Chamberlain: I should be inclined, Mr. Secretary, to approve
on the ground that while I am somewhat dubious about

their getting this milk, yet I think you ought to

encourage them to go as far as they can. I know
there is pressure on the Swiss from the Germans,

which is very severe, and getting more so. I

think this is about the only way that there is

any chance of the French getting any of this milk.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I would like to do it.

Chamberlain: I would like to check with the Red Cross. I
don't know what you would get from them. I wouldn't
take their word finally either way.

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328

No, but I would clean it up before sunset
one way or the other. I would make this
proviso. I want Mathews, who is partly on
our payroll, first Secretary at the American
Embassy at Vichy, to follow this thing for

me personally, see. I want that as a condition.
He would see some of this milk come in and can

follow the financial part, visit a couple of

these kitchens and so forth and so on. Unless
the Red Cross raises some objection, I would
say to go ahead with it.
Wiley:

It is powdered milk in paper bags, not even any
tin cans involved.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I would like Mathews to be fully aware of
it and go into the field once or twice and
see it. I also suggest that we call the Swiss
Minister here and ask him also to follow it for
us, the Swiss Minister, but this again - Alphand
proves that he and Henri Haye are both damn

liars and this proves that Alphand is, too.

They are just liars is all.
Pehle:

You mean on the ground as to whether you approved
it?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Pehle:

I don't know whether it was him or Pickett.

H.M.Jr:

Well, somebody lied. I know Henri Haye is a

Pehle:

It was discussed with my staff before and they
did not agree to approve it because we never do
that on any applications.

H.M.Jr:

Ask Pickett point blank.

Pehle:

I will next time I see him.

liar.

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- 17 H.M.Jr:

I would write him a letter and say that Alphand

said so and so, "Did you or didn't you. Write
him a letter and please say, "Did you or didn't

you say so." Let's nail it on him.
Pehle:

I would like to do that right away.
I rewrote this memorandum and added to it the
portion about Portugese gold.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

(See attachments 1 and 2 with meeting on December 12,
at 12:00 Noon - Re Freezing.)
H.M.Jr:

While we are on this to let you people know how I

feel, I personally am leaning this way, that where

we can make sure that no food will go from the soup

kitchen directly into the mouths of these children

under American Citizen supervision, irrespecti ve

of what country it is in, I am leaning toward doing
it. Where it is an American soup kitchen under
American citizen supervision, direct feeding into
the mouths of the children, I am inclined to try
it, and I wouldn't be too fussy about whether the
funds were frozen or not. I mean, I wouldn't
go into any million dollar schemes, but certainly
$50,000 at a throw, where it could be under, as
I say, American citizen supervision, directly
into the mouths of the children; but as I said

last night, if we don't do this, it is like being
black; but if you could see one single star, it
at the bottom of a well looking up, you just see

gives you a little ray of hope that some place,
some where, somebody shows interest. That is
for your guidance.

Pehle:

Of course, right now the American organizations are
largely not operating outside of France and largely
in unoccupied France. The Red Cross isn't operating

in any of those countries.

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- 18 H.M.Jr:
Chamberlain:
H.M.Jr:

When it is put un to me, that is the way I
feel.

There may be an appeal for Belgium very soon.

T don't --

When it comes, I want to clear that personally
with the President, but T would make the same

recommendation. I don't believe in any of these

schemes which they are talking about, mass feeding

and shooting the thing - millions of dollars into
it, but if you could make a test, $50,000 here,
$10,000 somewhere else, and try this thing out,

I just think it is - we have got to give some

spiritual leadership and hope, and I don't know

any other way of doing it. I mean, try it out.

I don't believe these tremendous schemes - shooting
the works. Then you can't withdraw.

Chamberlain: There are some very serious difficulties in any
of the schemes that have been proposed, that I
think would make them unworkable.

H.M.Jr:

There may be, but as they come up, you try them

Chamberlain:

Especially as to children.

F.V.Jr:

I am talking just about children, direct to them.

in a very small way and I will be sympathetic
toward it.

So if the schemes come, bring them un to me,
will you?
Anything else?

Pehle:

No.

Chamberlain: No.
Young:

I have nothing.

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I have nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Harry?

White:

I heard a bit on the radio last night. I don't
know whether it has come to your attention or
not. There was a discussion between Senator
Clark somewhere, and somebody else. I heard
amazing statements. Have you seen them?

H.M.Jr:

Oh yes. Bennett came to my rescue. I have

got to call him up.

White:

I have forgotten who the other Senator was.

Foley:

Austin of Vermont.

White:

He said something about its being the greatest
step toward Nazification of the United States.

H.M.Jr:

State Socialism. Bennet Clark said I had vision.

Foley:

Statesmanlike vision. A great step forward for

H.M.Jr:

That is all due to going up on the Hill. This is
going to be a nice fight. It is going to be

perfecting the Income Tax system that has been
taken since the 16th of November.

good fun.

Bell:

If we get him around on our side on the Stabil-

H.M.Jr:

Harry?

White:

You asked for a memorandum on social changes in

ization Fund, we will be all right.

England. The body of the report was prepared
by Mr. Adler.
H.M.Jr :

Thank you.

White:

I have some totals and some information which

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securities, et cetera. I didn't know whether

you wanted to take this up prior to your meeting
or at the meeting.
H.M.Jr:

At the meeting.

White:

The Export-Import Bank is about to extend assistance

to Peru, 10 million dollars. I raised the question

that I thought you might like to consider here,
whether or not two million of that might not be
undertaken by the Stabilization Fund, since it is
a Stabilization Fund operation, and whether they

H.M.Jr:
White:

didn't want to give us a chance to consider it.
I can't be bothered with less than 50 million
dollars.

Well, it is another country and I think that there
is some importance in maintaining the pattern.

There is very little involved, but there is involved the question of the principal -H.M.Jr:
White:

I just can't be bothered with less than 50 million.
I don't think we could approve 50 million. Can we,
Merle?

H.M.Jr:

Bring it un some other time.

White:

They have to know whether it will get any reconsideration, because they are eager --

H.M.Jr:

Well, you have got a letter here from Sumner
Welles on Chile.

White:

Well, you asked to bring that up Monday. Today
is Friday.

H.M.Jr:

Well, bring them both up Monday.

White:

Then I will be able to tell the Export-Import Bank

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- 21 that we are going to reconsider the matter

Monday for Peru?
H.M.Jr:

Look at it, we will look at it.

White:

That is a synonym for consideration. I will

H.M.Jr:

A little milder.

Bell:

Christmas is coming.

White:

Well, they are pushing, I think unnecessarily,

do that.

but they are pushing.

H.M.Jr:

Well, you report that you brought it up --

White:

And that you are going to take a look at it Monday.

H.M.Jr:

If I feel all right.

White:

Well, I mean the latter is implied. If you don't
feel well --

H.M.Jr:

All right, Harry. We will take a look at it
Monday.

(Telephone conversation with Senator Clark

follows.)

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December 13, 1940
10:04 a.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

They expect Senator Clark shortly. I left a
message for him to call you.

10:05 a.m.
Bennett C.
Clark:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Bennett?

C:

How are you, Henry?

H.M.Jr:

Thanks for them kind words.

C:

H.M.Jr:

Well, Henry, it was a great pleasure to me to
be able to do that and I don't think I said
a damn word that wasn't absolutely true.
Well, and you know what they say: politics
makes strange bed-fellows. You and I'11 get
together yet.

C:

(Laughs). Well, Henry, I really think you did
a very, very fine statesmanlike thing in that
course you took about that matter and I really

admired it very much indeed.
H.M.Jr:

Well, thank you so much, and I'm sincere. I
appreciate

C:

Well, I'm sure of that, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

.....

C:

Well, I think it was very well deserved, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

C:

Thank you, sir, very much.

H.M.Jr:

Good-bye.

your coming to my defense.

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- 22 H.M.Jr:

Are you through, Harry?

White:

Well, that is all. (Laughter)

H.M.Jr:

Harold?

Graves:

Nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Listen, I don't want to let the week go out
without doing the Bank of America, so if you
can't get Brother Delano out of bed, we will

do it at three o'clock without him. Is he
still in bed?

Bell:

I think he still is.

H.M.Jr:

I will bet you if we do it this afternoon, he

will be around tomorrow. The man is staying

in bed until this thing is accomplished. (Laughter)

Anyway, all those people interested in the
Bank of America report at three o'clock. What
else?

Pell:

That is a good thing, because we have got two

or three problems out there that are tied in

with it. I would like to give Dr. Prebisch,

or the Ambassador, this morning, a preliminary
draft of the agreement between the Treasury

and the Bank. Dr. Prebisch is also sick in

bed, and he probably won't be able to come;
but the Ambassador said he would if Prebisch

isn't able to. I think that is a good way to get

a vacation. Congress this year passed the Soldiers
and Sailors Relief Act of 1940, its purpose being to
protect the insurance policies of the persons in-

ducted into the military service. The administration
of that act is under the Veterans Administration, and
the only duty we have to perform is fix a rate of

interest with the certificates. There are some
letters of administration issued.

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- 23 The policies, of course, have a contract

rate, usually five or six per cent, which

the holder will pay on deferred payments. Our
only security outside of the Soldier's agreement
to pay is the cash surrender value of the
policies, in most cases, which accumulate at
the rate of three per cent. Now, the Veterans
Administration doesn't recommend, and they say

it is our responsibility. They thought we
ought to fix a three per cent rate for these
certificates, because that is the rate at which
these cash surrender values accumulate.

H.M.Jr:

What do you recommend?

Bell:

We think that is a fair rate.

H.M.Jr:

0. K.

H.M.Jr:

Harold, are you getting together with
McReynolds today?

Graves:

At 10:30.

H.M.Jr:

Wonderful.
Norman?

Thompson:

I have a statement from the hearing before the
Appropriations Committee.

H.M.Jr:

O. K. See you all later in the day.

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December 13, 1940
10:30 a.m.
RE BRITISH PURCHASING PROGRAM

Present:

Mr. Purcell
Mr. Frank
Mr. Cochran
Mr. White

Mr. Gifford

Mr. Pinsent

Mr. Phillips
Mr. Playfair

Mr. Forrestal
Mr. Wise

Mr. Bell
Mr. Clark
Mrs.Klotz
H.M.Jr:

Gifford:
F.M.Jr:

How long since we have seen each other,

Mr. Gifford? Is it about a year?
I think I was here when - no, it WAS the last
of the year, about six or seven months ago.
The reason I asked for this meeting was this:
In my conversations with the British and the
Canadians, the question comes up as to their
selling - well, American owned securities in
the United States and also direct investments,
and I have been quite frank in my statements
that I don't believe that the methods have
been followed which would have made it possi-

ble to sell the securities AS rapidly as they

might have been sold. I am going to say now
what I have been saying, that Mr. Frank and

I gave a great deal of time to this when

Mr. Gifford and Mr. Wigham first came over.

It is their securities, so naturally they can

sell them any way that they want, but they
chose not to follow the advice of the Securities

and Exchange and our Treasury.

Now, I made this statement to Sir Frederick
and asked him whether in view of the fact

that he has made the statement several times

that you couldn't sell more then what you have and I believe you could - 1f you want us to
repeat again how we think you could, knowing

that we are taking R great responsibility of

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-2being accused of forcing our opinion on you,
but we are prepared again to say how we
think that you could sell more securities
if you used different methods, and I asked
Mr. Forrestal if he would mind stepping out
of his role as Under Secretary of the Navy
and coming over here and, putting it quite

bluntly, I warned Sir Frederick yesterday that
if we were going to do this we were going to
be very blunt about it and he said to go
ahead. There 10 nothing personal. I have
heard the story of the means used at present
to do the thing and I just couldn't believe
what I heard, and if you people would like
to have it in a very blunt way, why, I asked
Mr. Forrestal if he would mind doing it.

Forrestal:

You want me to address myself simply to the
method, Mr. Secretary?

H.M.Jr:

The method that you and I have been told that

Forrestal:

As I understand it, it has been sales on the

they are following in the eales of their securities.

Exchange and through the Exchange from day

to day. Is that substantially correct?

Gifford:

That has been one part of the method, yes.

Forrestal:

You haven't done any block marketing?

Gifford:

Yee, we have.

Forrestal:

What particular securities?

Gifford:

We have done Standard 011 of California,

Pacific Gas and Electric, just straight from
memory, but they are very good examples. May
I explain just the principle on that? Perhaps
you had better finish, because I want to reply,
1f Mr. Morgenthau will permit me, to the whole

question.
H.M.Jr:

You can be just 88 blunt as I feel, 80 I

Gifford:

That is right.

don't care how blunt you are.

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-3H.K.Jr:

I have got no selfigh interests in this.

Gifford:

Oh, obviously not, sir.

Forrestal:

It may be that you have done exactly what I

had in mind. I think the market over the

Exchange 1s very limited. On the other hand,
as you know, and as Mr. Frank knowe, there
are A large number of investment dealers over

the country looking for stuff to distribute.

I think you can market almost any amount of
well-known American securities, and I don't
believe that the frequency with which they
are brought to the market, unless they happen
to be the successive blocks of the same conbany's securities - that would be bad because
that leaves en impression that you haven't
completed your job and I think to that extent
it does curtail what you can do 1f the market
never knows how much more there is to come

out, but I think 1f you addressed yourself
to the marketing of even BR much as 20 millions
of any standard issue and hed that distributed,
then said that was disposed of completely,
and then addressed yourself to the next one,

I think - and maybe I shouldn't be talking
at all, because I haven't been in that Atmosphere for the last six months - but I believe
that you could do several of those operations
A week, possibly with different groups. Kaybe
that is exactly what you have been doing.

Gifford:
Forrestal:

I will answer that.
I think that the piecemeal distribution
through the Exchange exposes you to the operations of day to day treders, and there are
still a few of them left, and also weakens
your position vis a via the investor who is

buying substantial amounts and is reluctant
to buy when he thinks there 18 a lot more to
follow.
The second thing which I think could be explored 1e the companies themselves, and that

would have to be by selection. The heads of
most companies of any size are interested,

as A rule, in their securities to the point

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where they will organize A group to take
over A block of stock. I don't think you
can do that on quite such A scale, because
it 1g usually limited to a small number of
people, but I believe that if you addressed

yourself vigorously to the disposition of
the securities that I wouldn't be at all
subtle about it. I would say exactly what
you are going to sell. As far AS I know,

that he never been done. There has been
an atnosphere of uncertainty as to how much
you were going to - maybe you didn't know

yourselves, that is quite possibly true,

but all I am giving you 18 an impression and
not anything more than my own personal feeling about it. That is about the substance
of my --

H.M.Jr:

Well, the thing that I have felt right straight
along, that whenever you got through selling
A - if it is Standard 011 of California and
you are through, tell the market that you have
no more Standard of California, you are out
of the market, you are finished, but there
18 all this mystery. Now, I understand that
they call up A broker and you give an order,
it is whispered to them, about a thousand
shares of this, then this great mystery has
got to go to some bank to get the stock and
he is sort of sent around hush-hush to some
other place where he gets a check and the

whole mystery. I can't understand it and I

am surprised you can sell anything that way.

Gifford:
H.M.Jr:

May I -I am surprised you sell anything.

Gifford:

May I explain to the --

H.M.Jr:

Please.

Gifford:

First of all, on the question of the amount
of securities that we have sold, the instructions which I received, along with Mr. Vigham
last autumn, were that the requirements of
dollars to be raised from the sale of American
securities, doller securities, was between 50
and 60 million sterling, to take the higher

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figure, 240 million dollars to be raised
within the first 12 months, the year to
the 31 of August, 1940, and that figure was
raised. So that 80 far as my own instructors
are concerned, the figure that WAS mentioned

to me and that had not been Altered prior to
that WAS accomplished.

I certainly am not aware -- it may be lack
of memory -- that I have failed to carry out
any understanding arrived at with you, sir,
or with the SEC. The policy that I proceeded
on was during the months until the day battle
on the continent, we were selling securities

at full rate, ahead of the rate required to

meet the sum which I WAS told was desired to

raise in that first war year from American

securities.

What then happened was that with the day

battle in the low countries, as you will re-

member, Mr. Forrestal, the market fell 20 25 points just like a plummet and as some

evidence of the possibility of selling securities - I am not suggesting it is the full

evidence at all - the turnover on the New
York Stock Exchange fell to a series of very
low turnovers per day. I think that during
the latter part of the summer there was
reached a day which was the record low turn-

over since 1915.
Forrestal:

I don't think that is a complete index,
though.

Gifford:

Oh, no. You will admit that I said it is
part of the evidence. You will admit that I
said that. I am not suggesting it is the
whole evidence at all.

I then communicated with the people behind
me at home when the fallen market occurred,

saying that rather than to try to depress not to try to deprese, try to sell with the

grave risk of depressing the market when it
was already in a very depressed state, I
proposed to hold off. That I received approval
of and that was the policy during the summer
months of June, July and August. I don't remember the exact date, but I think it was

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saying that I thought we must now regard the

level of the market as being stabilized and
not likely to show any particular recovery
and that accordingly, though it would involve
a deficit as compared with what we had paid
our own private owners for the securities,
that I thought sales might now be commenced
on that footing.
The reply I got was not to proceed on that
footing at the time. This WAS why in the
depreesed market no grave attempt was made
to press securities. You may remember Mr. Frank, I think you will agree with me -

that we laid a great deal of stress in our

discussions on the importance of not hitting
the market and not getting the impression
about that there was an unlimited amount of
British securities, which would have had a
very bad effect on the market, and that was
certainly always a good deal in my mind,
that one had to treat the market reasonably
and sensibly.

As regards the question of distribution, of
which we have now, since I came back to the
beginning of October, done a certain amount,

we have always had this in view, that of course

from the point of view of British selling

it 18 pretty expensive as a method.
H.M.Jr:

Gifford:

Pretty expensive?
Expensive method. The charges are very much

heavier than on the Stock Exchange. It 16
a method that undoubtedly 1g popular among

the firms --

Forrestal:

It isn't very much so, accurately. To be

precise, just what are the gaps between the
two?

Gifford:
Forrestal:

Well, take your Stock Exchange Commission --

It costs you three eighths on the Exchange,

doesn't it?

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-7Gifford:

Not so much. I had occasion to go into it
on account of an order which I thought was
very adverse to us at, I think you will
agree, about 11 cente per share.

Forrestal:

It varies with the price of the stock. Let's

Gifford:

stick to a hundred dollars par, which gives
to that, I say that on good stocks your cost
would be about a dollar and thirty cents.
I agree with you absolutely.

H.M.Jr:

What is that?

Forrestal:

In other words, the difference to sell the

you A base of 37.5 cents. Now, comparable

commissions on the Exchange would be about

37.5 cents on A hundred dollar par stock,

or a stock selling at that price. To market

it through the national distributive channels
would cost about one and three eighths, so
it is about a dollar difference per share.

Forrestal:

If you did it through private selling?
Is that right?

Gifford:

It runs between three and four times --

H.M.Jr:

Forrestal:

But on a billion dollars, that amounts to

About one million.

Gifford:

You have, of course, a list of our securities

H.M.Jr:

We don't know what you have sold.

Gifford:

No, you heven't a detailed list of what we
have sold. That, I think, has never been asked

from which it 1s evident that we do not have
a very large number of holdings in which our
individual holding is very heavy. The number
of cases where we hold a hundred thousand
shares 18 very limited. What we hold is
usually 30 or 35 thousand shares or less.

for.

H.M.Jr:

Well, up to the time - I have lost all interest
in it because un to the time - Sir Frederick
is here now and Mr. Clark and they make the
statement to me, which I know they make in all

sincerity, that they only think they can raise
three million dollars a week. I think that

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Phillips:
H.M.Jr:

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was the figure, wasn't it, Sir Frederick?
Yes. It WAR three and A half million dollars
A week. I was talking about the period after
June.
Well, I just don't think Sir Frederick has
all the information, because I am sure that
that thing could be - if the other methods

were used and the British Treasury or the
Canadian Treasury wanted to raise three or
four times that A week, barring some very bad
news, that it could be done and done very
easily. Now, I don't know how much -Gifford:

Please don't leave out of account, 80 far
AS what has been done, the position taken up,
up to date, as regards the policy and the
amount to be realized.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't know what your orders are.

Gifford:

Exactly. I was trying to explain that.

H.M.Jr:

But when I am told that you can only raise
three or four million dollars a week in this
market, I know that Sir Frederick has not
gotten the best information that he could get.
Now, that is my opinion.

Gifford:

I and my advisors must be to blame on that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, somebody is to blame.

Forrestal:

Mr. Gifford's point is that he has completed
what his assignment was, Mr. Secretary, I
think, and he has operated within the limits
of his objectives.
Until my return the beginning of October.
Since then, I have been following in considerable degree the lines that you (H.M.Jr.)
indicated. I may sey at once that the response
to any attempt to sell to the companies them-

Gifford:

selves --

Forrestal:

Is out.

Gifford:

It is most disappointing. We have two examples

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Forrestal:
Gifford:

where we succeeded in doing that. They were
not an important amount. There were one or
two cases, one in particular that I have in
mind, of stock where we were told from the
very beginning that the company would be
anxious to buy. Well, the only proposal we
have had from them 18 at a discount of about
$8.00 from the price, which seems to me just
sheer taking advantage of us.
Sounds like it.
We have during the last two months now been

proceeding by using the distribution method.
It is required by that method to keep the
sales up to the figures that we have been

getting. The possibility of sales on the

New York market at the present time is not

exactly --

H.M.Jr:

Gifford:

H.M.Jr:

How much are you supposed to raise?

We are raising at the moment, about three

and a half million dollars a week. I put it
to people who I work closely with whether
five million dollars one could rely on raising.

The answer I got was that they would be sorry
to say that couldn't be done.
My answer to you 18, I think you ought to get
some new advisors and I have said so right

along, because I don't believe it. I don't
believe it.

Gifford:

Then this raises, Mr. Secretary, a completely
it 18 desired that we should push the securi-

different situation. If the position is that
ties just as hard as we can, then I certainly
realize that that is a different situation
from the way in which I had regarded it up
to date. I don't pretend that I have regarded
it on that footing up to date at all. These

have not been my instructions from London,

and I am sorry if I misunderstood things, but
I didn't gather that that was what was desired.
Frank:

There are two questions I might suggest that

ought to be kept distinct. One 18 the policy,

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or program. One is the program, what the

objective is, and the other is the method
of accomplishing it. Now, if you confuse the
two, then confusion results. As I understand,
Mr. Gifford's instructions have been other
than what the Secretary had assumed was the

objective.
H.M.Jr:

Phillips:

I didn't know what his instructions were.
May I tell you something about it, sir, because I think it is rather confusing. When
Mr. Gifford says that he was selling at the
rate of 260 the first year of war, that is
quite right. That was the rate at which we
wanted to sell securities to finance our war.

H.M.Jr:

For --

Phillips:

In the first year of war.

H.M.Jr:

400 million the second?

Phillips:

We haven't got to a figure for the second.
I thought you said 260 --

H.M.Jr:

Phillips:

For the first, yes. If Mr. Frank or anyone
had advised us in January that Hitler would
be in Paris in June --

Frank:

I didn't advise at All, sir.

Phillips:

We would have sold much faster in the first
six months of this year. So would every other

holder of securities, of course, but since
about July there has been no reason why the
securities could not be sold as fast as the

market can absorb them, other than the risk
that we should, be, as it seemed to us, breaking
the market and incurring your censure.
H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't know what your objective is,
for this year. I don't know how much money
you want to raise. But I do know from people
that I have confidence in, that when all of

this mystery, all of this whispering on this.
thing - instead of having it quite out in the
open, I just don't believe that that is the

way to handle a large transaction, and I think

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if you took the investors into your confidence and lifted all of this mystery - I

mean, this having to go one place to get the

stock and another to get your check and another

to get your order and all of this thing --

Gifford:

I think you must have been misinformed.

H.M.Jr:

I don't think so.

Gifford:

I am quite willing to tell you exactly what
the procedure 1s. The procedure 18 that a
broker 18 told to sell - given authority to

sell RO many shares. He then has to appear I am sure Mr. Forrestal will bear me out on

this - where he will have to lift the securities.

Forrestal:

Pick them up.

Gifford:

Pick them up, and payment has to be made against

delivery and that is the whole story. There
isn't any other story, but the securities,
there being A considerable volume of them,
are not all lying in one bank and it may there-

fore well be - in fact, it is 90 that when

he selle today one security he has to go to
the Chase. Tomorrow when he sells another

security, he hap to go to the Guaranty. If
that, I think Mr. Forrestal will bear me out
that that is perfectly normal.
I don't think there is anything abnormal in
that procedure. I think that the atmosphere
of mystery still exists and maybe in normal
markets that might be a good thing. It isn't

he works up an idea that there is mystery in
Forrestal:

now.

Gifford:

When you speak of the atmosphere of mystery,
what have I done to create that atmosphere?

Forrestal:

Well, if I were in your place and I had a
million shares of New Jersey stock to sell,
I would say, "We have got a million shares

to sell.

Gifford:

Yes, but Mr. Forrestal, I think you will agree
with me in this. I have calls, of course, from
just dozens of people, some just trials only.

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I know, a lot of them.

Gifford:

They would like to know how many shares I

have of a given security. You wouldn't
suggest for a moment that I should tell
every Tom, Dick and Harry --

Forrestal:

No, but at the moment you decided to sell

Gifford:

Jersey stock I wouldn't sell them in blocks
of a hundred thousand apiece. I would
negotiate with any responsible fellow.
But I suppose the attitude of mystery has
arisen just because Tom, Dick and Harry
come in and I don't tell every locker-in,
and he then says it is all very mysterious.

Forrestal:

I think you can dispel all of that if you

decide in your own mind what you want to sell

and talk with three or four responsible
people and tell them this is a block And this
is what will be sold.

Gifford:

That is what I have been doing for the lest

six weeks or two months. You must remember,

I think, in fairness to me, that as far as

the instructions given me - maybe I am wrong
or I may have misinterpreted what I WAS ex-

pected to do here, but I do claim that I have
carried out the instructions that were given
me and I have no reason to believe that the
instructions that were given were ones that
you would disapprove of.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know what they are, so I am in the
dark, but I am sure that the amount of idle
money in this country is great enough that
you can sell, of the good securities - I
mean the companies that are making money
and paying dividends - that you can sell
unlimited amounts of these securities just
as rapidly as the British Treasury needs the
money.

Frank:

As I understand, Mr. Gifford, I think in
fairness to Mr. Gifford it should be said
that at least as far 88 I know, certainly in
no discussions we have had was there any

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suggestion as to the amount you could sell.
That was a matter between you and your
government. Now the question 1e, 1s the
present moment - assuming that the policy
18 to sell as rapidly as possible, without
unnecessarity depressing the price, whether
that can be done more expeditiously than
apparently it has been and Mr. Forrestal,
who
tion 18
-- eminently able to answer that quesForrestal:

You can't tell. The markets change from

Frank:

Gifford:

But your method of technique is, apparently
the one you have been pursuing -With this explanation, in order to be com-

Forrestal:

That may be the answer, because you can

Gifford:

day to day.

pletely frank, I have only been pursuing it
for the last six weeks.
certainly sell more than three and a half
million dollars A week.

I think Mr. Forrestal will sympathize with

me when I say I have begun feeling my way

a little, gently. It hann't been altogether
encouraging at times, and I have been disa-

ppointed in the difficulty of getting people
to be interested in some of the stocks. I
think that the feeling of the idle money in
America creates an impression of greater
ease in selling than actually exists. I have

found it disappointing. I think you will

allow me, without presumption, to say so,
sir. I would have shared your view but practice
hean't - isn't encouraging me just as much
AB I thought it might be.
H.M.Jr:

Well, as I say, all I - I have got a job to

do with these two gentlemen, one representing
the British and one representing the Canadian
Treasury, and when they tell me - and they
have no way to know except what you tell them -

that only three million or only three and A
half million dollars worth of American securities can be sold in this market over an average - I don't mean every week, but let's say

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H.M.Jr:

retary of the Treasury, I don't believe it.
Well, now, just one smell point on that.
I don't believe it.

Gifford:

I imagine you would still say you don't

Gifford:

believe it if I had raised the figure to
what would be, in my view, a dangerous
figure, if I had raised it to five million.
That wouldn't have altered your view?

H.M.Jr:

Iover
am 10
notweeks.
saying every week, but I am saying

Gifford:

Oh, clearly.

H.M.Jr:

I went to say this and as I say, in front
of Sin Frederick, I am not telling Sir Fred-

erick how much he should or shouldn't sell,
but in our negotiations where he and I are
working so closely together and the question
of how much he can or cannot raise is an
important question and I am not attempting
to tell him how much, but it is important
for his sake and mine to know if he wants to

raise another hundred or two hundred or three

H.M.Jr:

hundred million, can he do it. That is all.
Perfectly correct.
Is that correct?

Phillips:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I am not putting any pressure on him to
sell one dollar, but I am not going to - I
mean, after what I went through two days

Phillips:

ago, where to my amazement insurance com-

panies were amongst our best customers on

our three quarters, wholly taxable notes -

insurance companies came in for b1g blocks.
Now, when an insurance company will buy A

five year wholly taxable note paying three
last I heard - I don't know how many times
the thing was oversubscribed. Over A period
of ten weeks, I think the British Canadian

quarters of one percent - I think that the

351
- 15 people can sell any reasonable amount if the
tactics are changed and if you get different
advisors. I have had A partner down here
recently from one of your advisors.
Gifford:

Yee, I know you have.

H.M.Jr:

And
he is quite frank. I don't think they
want the securities sold.

Gifford:

Now --

H.M.Jr:

I don't think they want them sold. If a
fellow sits back and doesn't want them to
be sold, you can think of all kinds of excuses why they don't want it, but all I

want is Sir Frederick and Mr. Clark to
have A chance to know that if they want to
sell 80 many securities, 18 the market
there, and I believe it is there, but I
think you have got to have a different frame

of mind. Now, it is a matter of opinion

Gifford:

and I know that I have, to use the vernacular,
stuck my neck out, because they are going to
come back and say, "All right, how?"
May I say one thing, sir? You certainly,
from my point of view, have clarified the
situation very much because - I am speaking
without orders from my office, but I am
pretty certain that my thoughts are right you have made it clear that, A, you feel that
a much higher rate of realization is possible,
and I presume Sir Frederick will agree.

Phillips:

Desirable.

Gifford:

That it is desirable. Now, one cannot ever

quite get away from the background in which
one expresses a view. The background, of
course, behind my view, At that time three

and A half million dollare, necessarily was
on something of the lines along which I

proceeded, and with something of the background

of a limited realization. If I am told that

we must get the securities out quickly, then
the position may change, but that, please
note, I have not been told up to date by
anyone. You are the first person who has

352
- 16 -

H.M.Jr:

given me that clear indication. With that
clear indication in my mind, if I am still
allowed to handle the situation -No, sir, I haven't said that.

Gifford:

No, no, I know you haven't said that.

H.M.Jr:

No, I haven't said that. I am simply
saying that if the British or the Canadian

Treasury will make up their mind independently

that they want to sell more than three and
three and A half billion dollars worth

of securities -Gifford:

It can be done.

H.M.Jr:

I eay it can be done.

Gifford:

I realize that.

H.M.Jr:

That 18 their decision.

Gifford:

But I expect to get their decision now.

H.M.Jr:

Don't you think it can be done?
One hates, you know, sir, to say that you
can raise cash. My whole training is against
saying I can raise a certain amount of cash

Gifford:

by a certain date unless I am for all practical
purposes absolutely certain that I can fulfill

what I have said I would do.
Forrestal:

I share that view.

H.M.Jr:

I want to listen.

Gifford:

And to make an estimate of what the market

Forrestal:

I would limit it to two weeks.
Well, I was talking in terms of over 10
weeks, and I want to say one other thing.
I want to get it all off my chest. We are
talking in terms here of billions and I am

H.M.Jr:

will take over two months is a thing on
which one is bound to err in the course of
that time.

353
- 17 giving over half of my every working day
toward the British mission. It goes awfully
against my grain to talk about 37 cents. I
mean, it 18 A language I don't understand.
Gifford:

I am in entire sympathy. I think I under-

H.M.Jr:

I don't.

Phillips:

Now that these gentlemen are here, I would

stand perfectly.

like to ask one question. Is December normally a good month for selling stocks on the
New York market? Is there any reason to
suppose January 18 a better month, usually
than December?

Forrestal:

I don't think there 1s ever a good or a bad

month.

Phillips:

I do hear that December is a bad month.

Forrestal:

Well, after all, that 1e stock sheet gossip.
I think Mr. Forrestal and I will agree quite
easily on that. There is a lot of stock

Gifford:

telk about that.

Forrestal:
Purcell:

They think up the reasons after the event.
Do you want to say anything, Purcell?
No, sir, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Do you get a feeling of what they are doing

H.M.Jr:

now?

Purcell:

Only occasionally through conversations with
people in New York who mention some indica-

tions that they have gotten. Frankly, I

haven't gotten any impression that there
was much feeling in New York of the British
Government sales. I mean they haven't made

much impression in the city.
Gifford:

They haven't pushed prices.

Frank:

No, there 18 no such impression.

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- 18 H.M.Jr:

One of the things I feel most strongly,
and I think that you (Frank) agreed with me
originally, I don't know whether Forrestal
does,
that whenever
they are finished selling
a security
--

Forrestal:

Say so.

Frank:

Yee.

H.M.Jr:

You remember we went over that originally.
May I make an explanation on that? When we

Gifford:

vested these securities, unfortunately all
the owners had not registered their securities
with the Bank of England. I was informed of
that during an early stage of the summer, that
there would be more securities coming along

and a vesting order was made three weeks ago

to catch up these original securities. I

was thus in the position that if when I had
sold the securities, sold the total of any
one security that I had charge of, I said,
"I have sold the lot, I knew that it would
not in all probability be true because there
would be more coming along within a limited
but uncertain time and therefore up to now
I have not been able to say --

Frank:

Gifford:

Have you now got complete veeting?

They have now been vested, but they haven't

all arrived yet.

Frank:

But you do know the total quantities now?

Gifford:

No, that is the trouble. You see, you don't

know the quantities until the people actually

deliver them.
Forrestal:

If you just said that was what you had available At the moment, that you had completed

all of the -Gifford:

What would have happened, Mr. Forrestal, if
I had done that and then appeared 6 weeks or
a couple of months later with more of the
same securities?

355
- 19 Forrestal:

I would tell them the facts.

Gifford:

Forrestal:

But it would look a little odd, wouldn't it?
I don't think 80.

Gifford:

That is A matter of P. difference of opinion.

Forrestal:

I don't think you should come back three or

Gifford:

I thought it was undestrable to say I had

Forrestal:

Well, it is preferable, but if a security is
stable which never has any great fluctuation,
I don't think --

H.M.Jr:

Aren't there some securities you have gone

I wanted my statement to be Accurate.

four or five times.

sold all Consolidated Edison of New York,
but that would have been wrong.

through with?

Gifford:

Not now, because I am waiting for these other
ones to come in and the trouble is practically
everyone on my list are coming in.

Phillips:

When are you going to get them in?

Gifford:

They ought to be in in another three or four
weeks.

H.M.Jr:

You could make a statement, for instance,
"We have sold 9 hundred thousand shares of

'XYZ.' That is all I have on hand. The

next month we may receive un to another

25,000 shares, but I have sold what I have

on hand," to protect yourself.
Gifford:

The point that has been in my mind, air, 18

that 1f I say that with regard to eo many
securities, the market then knows better

than ever that I still have other securities
to sell and that has not seemed to me a
favorable position for the seller to put
himself. into.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I have said my say. I said it - I don't

know whether it was 6 months ago or a year ago.
I made no impression.

356
- 20 cifford:

Isir.
think you are not quite fair to me there,

H.M.Jr:

No, no --

Gifford:

I really'don't think you are fair to me.
I am sorry, but the fact remaine I went all

H.M.Jr:
Frank:

through this once before --

Mr. Secretary, at the time I don't believe

Mr. Gifford was here.

H.M.Jr:

Oh yes he was.

Frank:

I was present at a conference and as I

H.M.Jr:

remember the suggestion was that he go and
do some dealing.

No, we have had several talks and I have been

over this before, but I don't want to get

personal and I am simply - it is hard enough
for me to keep up my enthusissm for this
cause and I have to supply my own yeast to
keep myself going, but both the British and
The Canadian Treasury know how I feel, and

it is up to them to do what they want.

Gifford:

I agree with you.

H.M.Jr:

It is up to them to do what they want. Well,
I hope I haven't said anything that --

Gifford:

You have been very helpful to me, sir.

H.M.Jr:

I introduced it and then --

Gifford:

You have certainly been, perhaps more than

you can realize, very helpful to me this

morning.
H.M.Jr:

As I say, I don't know what your instructions
are, I don't know what they are now, but in
order to clear the atmosphere between the
three Treasuries, it was necessary to have

this talk and if in that you unfortunatel y

come between the nutcracker, I am sorry.

- 21 Phillips:

We haven't had, sir, really an estimate from
either Mr. Forrestal or Mr. Frank of the rate
they think we can sell.

Forrestal:

I share Mr. Gifford's reticence about giving
estimates. All I am saying is that I think
it could be accelerated.

Phillips:

Mr.
Frank, you wouldn't like to give us an
estimate?

Frank:

No, I wouldn't

Forrestal:

I know two or three transactions in one
thousand shares of stock that were dealt in
on a margin of about R dollar.

Gifford:

We haven't got blocks because they are much

Forrestal:

But you can do two or three in quite rapid
succession and there is no particular effect.
In fact, the more they sell you will find
actually that the more activity there 1s.
That it 18 general rates interest because

week where there were blocks of a hundred

smaller and it takes more time.

the man with one block goes and he gets interested and the saleeman wants to get
business 80 he 1s busy, bustling about.

H.M.Jr:

All right, gentlemen, thank you.

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358
December 13, 1940
1:02 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Secretary Jones.

Jesse

Jones:

Hello. How are you?

H.M.Jr:

I'm alive.

J:

Good. Well, I see you' re still at the bat.

H.M.Jr:

What?

J:

I see you're still at the bat.

H.M.Jr:
J:

Yeah and I see we're still together.
That's right.

H.M.Jr:

What?

J:

That's all right.

H.M.Jr:
J:

We're both going to ask Congress before we
give them a handout.

That's right, when we've got to, whether we

like it or not, haven't we.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, sure.

J:

Why, sure. Well, I think it's all right. It's

H.M.Jr:

I almost fell over when I saw Bennett Clark

all to the good I believe.
came to my rescue.

J:

Did he?

H.M.Jr:

I called him up and I said, Bennett, politics
makes strange bed-fellows, and he laughed - he
loved it.

J:

Good.

H.M.Jr:

And they called me state socialist because I
came out for wholly non-tax exempt bonds.

359
2J:

H.M.Jr:
J:

Uh-huh.

The Republicans did. That's a good issue.
Well, any news of any kind?

H.M.Jr:

Pardon?

J:

Any news of any kind?

H.M.Jr:

J:

No. I haven't heard from the President and
I just sent off a message a little while ago
asking whether he wouldn't please answer me
and 80 I've had nothing on that and 80 really,
as far as that goes, I'm just marking time.
How'd the British react to your suggestion?

H.M.Jr:

Which one?

J:

Well, about that.

H.M.Jr:

You mean

J:

About that thing you sent the wire about.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, - I haven't heard from them either.

J:

But you told them what you

H.M.Jr:

They knew I had sent a message and they've sent
a message to their Government whether they

were willing to put up the cash, and they've
had no answer.

J:

H.M.Jr:

I see.

So everything is just where we left it. What's

new with you?
J:

Well, not a thing - just a lot of little

H.M.Jr:

They're trying to nick me from Peru. I told
them to come around and see me Monday.

J:

Who's that - somebody - oh yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Harry White spoke to me about it.

360

-3J:

That's right.

H.M.Jr:

And I said that - oh, I didn't feel much like

J:

doing anything - (laughs).
I was planning to go home for Christmas a

little bit early and I was just talking to the

boys yesterday - I want to get all the Export
Bank matters out of the way.

H.M.Jr:

Well, when are you going, Jesse?

J:

I'm going next Thursday.

H.M.Jr:

Well, got to see you before then.
So we'll have plenty of time before that.

J:

H.M.Jr:

What?

J:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Let me just see a second. Wait until I look
at my calendar for next week. Wait a minute.

How would you like some of my fish on Tuesday?

J:

I'd like it.

H.M.Jr:

Huh?

J:

I'd like it.

H.M.Jr:

Swell. Jesse Jones on Tuesday for lunch.

J:

O. K.?

Fine. And I'11 try to think of anything that
there is to talk about, if anything.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

J:

O. K.

361
December 13, 1940
2:11 p.m.
H.M.Jr:
Jerome

Hello, Jerome.

Frank:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Hello, Jerome, how's my softener up?

F:

Oh, you did a grand job. I want to tell you
an amazing story.

H.M.Jr:
F:

Yeah.

Gifford came to see me and told me he was
delighted with what you had done - you guess

right.

H.M.Jr:

No!

F:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I'll be damned.
But he told me this amazing story: he said
as to our selection of Morgan, he said, Mr. Frank,
you remember shortly after I came down here came into this position, I was at dinner, you
were there, at the Embassy and I sat next to let's see, on the one side there was the fellow

F:

you have as Attache to the Embassy in London your man.

H.M.Jr:
F:

Butterworth.
Butterworth and on the other hand was Under
Secretary Hanes and the subject came up of
who our advisers were going to be and Butterworth
said he thought that was splendid and Hanes
said he thought that was most excellent and

he said, after all, he said, I thought the
Secretary might not want to talk to me directly
but this is a way of letting me know.

H.M.Jr:
F:

I see.

He said, therefore, it was something of a shook
to us to learn that that wasn't altogether
desirable.

-2H.M.Jr:

Well, I'11 be darned.

F:

Well, now, I can believe it.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yeah.

F:

Because that's just what Johnny would say.

H.M.Jr:

Sure.

F:

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I went on to tell him - I said, now talking

man to man - I explained Johnny to him.
H.M.Jr:
F:

(Laughs).

I said, now he's naive as he can be and he
never understood that when he was in the

President's Cabinet that he was the President's
servant.

H.M.Jr:

That's right.

F:

And he believed that he was autonomous, that

he was independent. Well, he said, Mr. Frank,
in our British Government what any member of
the official family says we take to express

official views and I said, quite justifiably.

H.M.Jr:
F:

H.M.Jr:

Well your story, Jerome, is very interesting.
You don't believe it?

I believe that part of it, yes, but I certainly

let him know in no uncertain terms that I
didn't want him to have Morgan.

F:

How long afterwards was that?

H.M.Jr:

Well, I don't know when this happened.

F:

H.M.Jr:

Well, this was about, I would say, about two
weeks after he first got over here.

Well, I would say right around that time
because when I heard that he did go with
Morgan and had his office there I told him

that some day Congress would have an investi-

gation of this whole thing and that it would be

very harmful to him.

363

-3F:

You said that to Gifford.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

F:

Well, I poured it on pretty heavy. I said,

now look, people haven't forgotten the last
war, you'll have all those stories dragged up
again, and I said, as to your keeping your

securities, I said, that story will be dragged
up after a while, then he said this: oh, I
almost forgot to tell you this which is most
important.

H.M.Jr:
F:

Go ahead.

He said, I would like - and I don't know if
you'll get this done - but he said, what I'd

like to do would be to get permission to go
to the Secretary and say we don't - that we're
going to sell our securities is certain, it's
really a question of how and when and if the

American Government would like it, we will hand
over our securities now to them and tell them,
you sell them if, as and when you please.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

F:

Well, I said, if I were you I'd do it not that

it'11 be accepted perhaps but I would do it.
And I'm rather inclined to think he's going to
be able to tell you that.
H.M.Jr:

Be very interesting.

F:

I think this fellow is all right. I think he

was delighted. He told me - well, he gladly

told me that what he's been trying to get done what

you crammed down their throat.
H.M.Jr:
F:

Well, I don't know how sorry he felt about me

because I put it on pretty hard.

Oh, yes, and he said you helped them tremendously.
He was very grateful.

H.M.Jr:

It's amazing.

F:

Isn't it?

364
4

H.M.Jr:
F:

Because I can just see both Johnny and

Butterworth say, oh, sure.

Well, I don't know about Butterworth but
Johnny of course would. If they'd asked

Johnny
whom to go to he would have told them
that.

H.M.Jr:

That's right. Well, I suppose the answer is

we live and learn.

F:

Don't we.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

F:

(Laughs). All right then.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

365
December 13, 1940
2:30 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Quinn.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Harold
Quinn:

Hello, Mr. Morgenthau.

H.M.Jr:

I'm sorry you missed out yesterday.

Q:

H.M.Jr:
Q:

I was awfully sorry too. I felt very badly
about it but there wasn't anything I could
do.
I was up - aloft over Baltimore all that
time.
Oh, for heaven sakes.
Something - I don't know what happened. They
said nothing when we started out here and then

we didn't land in Baltimore until 2 hours
after we left here.
H.M.Jr:

Good heavens.

Q:

So we circled around for almost an hour and a
half.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

Q:

I felt absolutely helpless.

H.M.Jr:

Was there something special you had in mind?

Q:

Mr. Morgenthau, what I wanted to say was this:
I wanted to make this - advance this idea and
see whether you thought there was any helpful

thing in it from your point of view.

H.M.Jr:

Please.

366

-2Q:

In connection with the problem of the British

we wondered whether there wasn't some place there
where
the investment companies might be of some
assistance.
H.M.Jr:
Q:

H.M.Jr:
Q:

H.M.Jr:
Q:

I see.

Because I just wanted to point this out that
were certain assets of theirs which were in the
form of companies here and which were difficult
to realize on.

That's right.
But the investment companies it seems to me
might be of some assistance there.

Well, it is a very interesting idea.
And I wondered if it was interesting enough
80 that if you wanted me to I could come down
some day next week and just tell you how my
mind has been running.

H.M.Jr:
Q:

Very definitely.
Would you be in town on Thursday next,

Mr. Morgenthau?
H.M.Jr:

Oh, it's awfully hard to know from one day
to the next.

Q:

I know.

H.M.Jr:

If you're thinking of coming Thursday, if you
could send me a telegram Tuesday, I could
answer you.

Q:

H.M.Jr:

Q:

Or should I call you - should I call Mrs. Klotz
the first of the week.
Well, if you just send a telegram, that's the
easiest thing. Send a telegram and we can
answer it. We'11 answer it right away.

All right, we'll fix it. I could suit your
book really almost any day.

367

-3
H.M.Jr:

Well, I just don't know but if you were coming

Thursday - but this thing 18 80 hot. If you've
got some idea, I wouldn't put it off that far.

Q:

Well then could I come on Monday?

H.M.J

Yes. No, I'm going on the Hill Monday morning.

Q:

Tuesday?

H.M.Jr:
Q:

H.M.Jr:
Q:

Just a second here. I could see you Tuesday
at 10:30.

That would be fine.

Yeah, yeah. I'll be glad to see you.
Well, I just have this thought. We'd like to

be helpful if we could and it seemed that there

was a place where we might be.
H.M.Jr:

That's perfectly possible. Hello.

Q:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

So I'11 see you Tuesday.

Q:

Tuesday at 10:30.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

Q:

Right you are. Thank you.

368
December 13, 1940
5:04 p.m.

H.M.Jr:
Jerome

Hello.

Frank:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Congratulations on enjoining

F:

Oh, yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Very timely.

F:

H.M.Jr:

It's very timely.
(Laughs). Oh, that's terrible. Is that
supposed to be a pun?

F:

What?

H.M.Jr:

Is that a pun?

F:

Yeah. (Laughs).

H.M.Jr:

O. K. Well, you're beginning to get the

F:

Yeah. Well, we'll

breaks.

Thanks for calling.

H.M.J.:

Thank you.

369

December 13. 1940

Dear Health:

Spon my return to Washington from a

brief trip to the West Indies, I was happy to
have your interesting personal letter of

October 11. Such observations as you here
made are always of interest to as here.

Cochres has told - that you wire
getting every to Switserland for a few days
before Christmas and I hope this my have previded yes with on opportunity for rest and
recreation.
with very best wishes, I an,
Sincerely years,
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Denald a. Health, Require.
Secretary of Bubnesy.
Berlin, Germany.

Via State Dept. Pouch
By Memmer 100

to Mr, Clarke, State Dept.

amp

370

December 13. 1940

Dear Health

Upon my return to Washington from a

brief trip to the West Indies, I was haggy to
have your interesting personal letter of
October 11. Such observations as you here
made are always of interest to as here.

Cochrea has told - that you were
getting away to Switserland for a few days
before Christmas and I hope this my have previded you with as opportunity for rest and
recreation.

with very best wishes, I an,
Sincerely yours,

(Signed) E Jr.

Denald R. Health, Require,
Secretary of Babasay.

Berlin, Cereasy.

Via State Dept. Pouch
By Messenger

to Mr. Clarke, State Dept.

NO:da:12.13.40

371

T

Berlin, October 11, 1940.
Dear Mr. Secretary:
A good many shattering events have occurred
since you so kindly gave me an opportunity to come

to Washington last January. At that time the

barometer of public morale in Germany was not

very high. After the battle of France it rose
to the top of the tube, but it has again perceptibly fallen in these last few weeks.

I still keep up my contacts with people
like Puhl, who is active administrative head of
the Reichsbank, Bergemann and Wiehl, who are

respectively, directors of commercial policy of
the Economics Ministry and the Foreign Office,
and others as well. Naturally they are pretty
taciturn these days as regards giving information,
but I glean certain impressions and certain
information which I incorporate in my telegrams.
Following the battle of France the press
and officials in public addresses here announced
that King Gold was to be entirely toppled from
his throne. In various telegrams I have indicated
that these statements were largely for propaganda

purposes. As a matter of fact the upper officials
of the Reichsbank, the Economics Ministry and

Goring's staff, particularly the latter, are

conservative in their monetary views and are
hoping

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington.

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hoping and, as far as they can under war con-

ditions, planning for a freer monetary system

and a partial return to gold. The catch is
of course that these officials are practically
powerless under present conditions to make
their viewpoint felt. They are career officials,
however, who came into office before the Nazis

seized power and when a change to a normal regime

occurs they will undoubtedly still be in office
and their point of view might then be felt.
While the upper rank of German career economic
officials are essentially conservative, the
junior officials are to a large extent rather
radical proponents of state socialism and
intervention.

I have sent this letter of random observations to Cochran, and with instructions not to
send it in to you if you are too busy, as I am

sure you must be. The tasks you were bearing
last January were too much for any one man's
shoulders, and since then you have added another

mountain of responsibilities. I hope, personally

and for the sake of the country, in this critical

period, that you are managing to bear the load
without impairment of health.

Faithfully yours,

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(Handed by Mr. Pinsent of the British Embassy to Mr. Cochran of the
Treasury at 10:30 a.m., December 13, 1940.)

Telegram from H.M. Treasury dated 1st December 1940.

Polish National Bank representative in West Africa has
reported that one plane leaving Dakar Kayes going north with approx-

imately one ton of gold. His informant pretended only Belgian gold
being removed.

(1) G. H. S. P.

BRITISH EMBASSY,

6th December 1940.

Copy: jpt

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON

December 13, 1940.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.

Regarding Notes on the Food Situation in Spain.
I am sending you a memorandum, giving the gist as I see
it of the eight page memorandum by Dr. J. H. Janney of the
Rockefeller Foundation which was sent by Dr. Sawyer, and
which Mr. Pehle has forwarded to you.
If you did not have time to read the whole memorandum,

I thought this would help.

g. chambelan

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON

December 13, 1940

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

These notes show a very great unevenness in the food situation

in different parts of Spain. In the South and East, the situation
is very bad. Bread, the staple of Spanish diet, together with olive
oil, is very short. 011 is unobtainable. "The house without bread
is a house of starvation. The 1940 wheat crop was far short of normal
and a normal year has never been enough for Spain's needs. The 1940

oil crop, I am told on best authority, is being exported for foreign
credit; local needs will be partially supplied by substitutes.
Meat and potatoes are scarce. Milk is very short. Well-to-do
people can buy meat, eggs and olive oil, and sometimes even butter,

from speculators at very high prices. In schools in Seville, visited

by Dr. Janney, he says:

never have I seen such examples of undernourishment.

.

Above the first grade there was scarcely a well nourished child
to be seen, 90% were thin and all seemed completely pepless. I
was immediately struck by the high proportion of children who

showed marked anemia. In one or two rooms we found 60% by
actual count. Had we done hemaglobins the rate would have been

such higher. There was no evidence of other deficiency disease
such as scurvy or pellagra and we were inclined to feel that it

is a deficiency in quantity rather than quality.

Only a very small proportion of the children who need feeding in
schools could get milk and meals, and that insufficient.

In Barcelona, he says that well-to-do people find it difficult
to buy their quota of bread and potatoes. Eggs, butter and olive oil
can be found only in small quantities at four or five times their

normal price. He adds, "One wonders what the poor are living on."

In the North and Northwest, he reports that there is a much better
supply of food and even in some cities meat and milk can be had.

Bread is plentiful.

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-3The great need is wheat. If the Red Cross sends wheat and flour,
"there should be sufficient American personnel for proper control
and for making surveys as to needs and the extent to which these

needs are being not. .

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NATIONAL DEFENSE ADVISORY COMMISSION

Not to be released before
9 p.m., December 13, 1940

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Address by Donald M. Nelson,

Coordinator of Purchases of the National Defense
Advisory Commission delivered before the Bankers
Club of Chicago, Blackstone Hotel, Chicago, Ill. at
9 p.m., Friday night, December 13, 1940.

Several weeks ago, when I first accepted an invitation to address

this group, I had in mind the desirability of discussing with you certain
financial aspects of the national defonse program; some of probable and

possible effects it will have on the national economy: and the opportunities
I believe we have of avoiding a general inflationary movement.

This seemed to be an important subject. Moreover, I thought it

would be of particular interest to this group as a whole and to its individual members because you are bankers and these are problems of special
concern to you.

But a few days ago I changed my mind and decided to talk to you

not as bankers with particular interest in financial and monetary matters
but as citizens of the United States of America who, as such, share joint

interests with every other citizen of this country.
The reason I mention this is because I want to explain to you why

I changed my mind. There was a very important reason for doing it. And
it has much to do with what I an going to talk about.
It was because from where I sit in Washington it suddenly became

apparent that we need to refresh our nemories --- and very short nemories
they are; we need to go back for a monent and examine some very fundanental

aspects of this national defense program - such as its reason for existence,

its justification, and the degree of urgency involved in its fulfillment.

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Having ro-examined these fundamentals we need to take a fresh look around

us and then do a 1ct of hard thinking and straight talking - right from
the shoulder. When I any "we" need to do these things I mean all of us the whole country - AS citizens and not as bankers or manufecturers or

farmers or lathe operators or as any other group or faction or interest. In
other words we must make this re-examination together - as Americans

conscious of the inseparability of our highest national air and cur highest
ideals. We can do this here today in the spirit of conradeship and unity of
purpose that always ought to prevail among people of common citizenship in

times of grave emergency. And I hope forvently that other groups - many

of them --- will do the same thing in the days and weeks that follow.
Suppose we begin by going all the way brock to the starting
point and ask ourselves why we have undertaken a program of national defense

of such magnitude that it will strain our every resource - human and material

The answer is obvious but perhaps it is well to state it all over again. Let
me read you a list of names: Ethiopin, Spain, China, Czecho-Slovakia, Albania,
PolanA, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Latvin, Esthonia, Lithuania, Luxenburg,
Belgium, Holland, France, Ecpt, Ruminio and Greece. There are twenty countrier

on the list. Nine of them have been overrun, conquered and reduced to a slave

status, existing at all only at the indulgence of their conquerors. Four have
been absorbed completely without fighting. Two have been forced to give up

territory and are leading a truncated, precarious existence, never knowing from
day to day whether they will be forced to give up more. One was torn asunder

by a bloody civil war that left it prostrate and semistarved. Three are still
fighting, two of them with their own forces and the third with the help of the

British Empire. A little over five years ago each of this list of twenty was

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independent political unit, seeking to work out its own national destiny. Some
of these countries were not well advanced by our standards, Some of them were
not too devoted to our own form of government. But others were among the
most progressive, most democratic, most enlightened and best-governed

countries the world has yet seen.

All this has happened within a little over five years. Today the
mightiest empire in history, made up of people from whom we have largely

drawn our cultural, political and religious ideals, is fighting with its back
to the wall --- bloody, wounded, tired --- still standing and trading blow
for blow with a merciless enemy who is better equipped and who is fired with
a fanatical zeal based upon the religion of destruction by murderous force,
For fifteen months the British Empire has been fighting and we know that it
will never throw in the sponge. But we can see from here that she is groggy,
that her endurance and courage may not be enough to pull her through, thnt we

must face the possibility that she may go down.

You can trace the origin of the fate that has bofallen this long
list of countries and now throatens the British Empire back to the advent of
Nazism in 1933, or back to the peace treaty that followed the last great war,

or still further back if you choose to. You can call it a world war or a
world revolution or a battle of ideologies or anything you like. But the
simple fact remains that the most annihilating wave of destruction the world
has ever seen has been gnthering force and momentum for at least five years.

And the peak of its fury has not yot been roached - the scope of its dangor
not yet fully understood by all people.
Small wonder, thon, that six months ago the United States decided

to build the greatest all-round defense force in the history of the world.

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Some have complained that this decision should have been reached much soonor.

But let me remind you that until the Nazi tidal wave rolled over the Low
Countries last spring the public was not ready to support any such effort.
We nooded a shock of that intensity to rouse ourselves from an attitude that
was dangerously close to apathy.
Finally we were thoroughly aroused and being aroused we demanded

action. That was typically American. Wo have a way in this country of waiting
until the last minute and then expecting miracles. However, the important
thing is that the War and Navy Departments laid down a program of gigantic

proportions, congress voted the funds with the almost unaninous support of the
nation, and the President established the National Defense Advisory Commission
to assist the Army and Navy.

Nobody with two eyes in his head expected this thing could be
accomplished overnight.

Those of us who were called down to Washington to help out on the

Advisory Commission soon realized that it would be a long, hard pull, that
there would be headaches and delays, mistakes and a certain amount of confusion.

That was inevitable. William S. Knudsen, chief of the Production Division,
immediately warned the nation that it must not expect nagic. Because of his
training and genius he well knew the tremendous production problems that would

bedevil the program. He told us over and again that before we could get nass
production we would have to design and build the tools and the "tooling up"
phase, as he called it, would be long and tedious. There would be many months

in which it would be difficult to soe progress, mainly because the progress
would be unspectacular, unsusceptible to headlines - taking place in the
machine shops and on the drawing boards, in the labor training schools, the

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preparation of production schedules, the gathering of raw materials, the
expansion of plant.

What has happened during the intervening six months? Has the

world crisis abated? Has anything happened to remove any of the justification
for this program? Has anything occurred that tends to lessen the urgency of
its prompt completion? Obviously the answer to these questions is "no".

The threat to our safety and free institutions is graver than ever. The demand
that we are with the utmost conceivable speed is more urgently pressing than

six months ago. The fact that this is an emergency - an energency in

which everything we have and believe in and liva for is at stake - is more
clear today than ever before. We have passed the stage where there is any

room for debate on that point.
As for the defence program, it has, in the past six months, moved

from the initial phase of letting contracts to the "tooling up" stage. Next
comes the real production period - the delivery of defense equipment into
the hands of the armed forces. That is, by and large, still many months away.
But the defense program also has reached the stage where important

decisions mist be made - decisions bearing on the extent to which the prompt
achievement of this program shall become our dominant national goal, which

means the extent to which we are really serious about national defense, the
extent to which we, as a nation, understand the urgency of completing the
program at the earliest possible moment, the extent to which we are determined

to make our country and our way of life safe from aggression and ultimate

extinction, the extent to which we are willing to sacrifice the luxury of
normal procedure and accustomed practices so that we may remain free to regain
normalcy once more.

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When the Defenee Commission wont to work early in June, it decided
upon a policy of attempting to superimpose the arriament program on top of the

normal economy of the nation, to make full use of all existing facilities,
to avoid the inevitably harmful effects of indiscrininate plant expansion.
Most thoughtful nen concurred in that policy and we still intend to follow
it to the greatest possible extent consistent with our one all-powerful

objective, which is to are this nation to the tooth and do it as fast as is
humanly and mechanically possible.

But perhaps it wns a mistake ever to talk of "normal" procedures
and the "normal" economy. Because this is not a norual program in any sense.

It was forced upon us by abnornal conditions throughout the world. Its
fulfillment docands of us abnormal attention, abnornal effort and sacrifice,
perhaps abnornal methods and techniques.

I want to state quite plainly that if this program could have been
taken in our stride, with no disturbance to normalcy, then it was too small,
because conditions depand maximum results and they can be obtained only by

extraordinary effort.
As I said a fow moments ago we have passed through the greatest

part of the work of lotting contracts. My personal belief is that that phase
was handled well and expeditiously. I see no reason for complaint on the
basis of what has beon done so for.

But this new phase - this "tooling up" phase - is susceptible
to speed-up methods. Thore is no tine here for going into exact techniques.
The important thing is that "tooling up" and production can be accelerated by
extrnordinary effort and methods.

I an convinced that this must be done. It is impossible to know
how much time we shall be permitted. We cannot know the exact dinensions of

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next year's burden, except that it will be heavier than it is now. We
cannot know to what exact extent Britain will be forced to roly upon us to
supply her with the weapons she so desperately noods and can use so well,
except that she inevitably must loan more and more upon our shops and production lines.

We do know the burden is already staggering and that it is going to

increase every wook that goes by. Wo know also by now that it is the will of
the country and the determination of the government that Britain must not go
down because we could not supply her with what she noods. Some of you out

here in the Mid-West had your doubts about that point for awhilo but I believe

they are nelting away rapidly as the reality of the world situation and its
relation to this country becones more and noro clear in its broadest ranifications.

So the realitios of today cry out for spood, speed, and more speed
on national dofonso.
This means more work, more disturbance to "normal" processes, noro

sacrifice on the part of everybody.

The country is too big, the stakes are too high, to pernit the
development of bottlenocks in national unity, in national determination, in

national offort to wold the entire strength of a free country into a cohesive
force with a single dominant goal - national defonso.
I think it was the late Will Rogors who said something to the effect
that when enery bombers roar in over our borders they will catch the American

people dressed in knickerbockers trying to sink a forty-foot putt on the
eighteenth green. Now Will Rogers was a keon student of the American people

and an able philosopher, but somo of the totalitarian leaders seen to have

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overlooked the fact that he also was a humorist. I suspect they are counting
heavily on catching the American people in knickerbockers on the eighteenth
green.

I think they are wrong in that assumption. I believe they will find
America ready - so ready, in fact, that they will be forced to abandon their
cherished notions about the congenital weakness of democracy. But I also see

rather disturbing signs that the American public is not yet fully aware of the
peril. Something has happened to us since the tense excitement of last May
and June. Perhaps our nerves were to ragged from the strain of those weeks

to maintain interest. Perhaps the failure of Nazi plans for invading England

this Fall had the effect of lulling us into a sense of false security, a tooeasy faith in the ability of Britain to withstand forever the hanner blows
of the totalitarian war machines.
Whatever the reason, I have a sense of a let-down on the part of

general public. Let me make it perfectly plain that I do not for one moment
suggest that the public is not ready to do everything asked of it. On the
contrary, I am thoroughly convinced that a vast majority of the people of this
country are more anxious than ever to do something that will permit them to
feel they have contributed, that they have made some personal sacrifice in

the interest of making their nation strong.
But we are menaced with a form of drowsiness induced by faniliarity

with the struggle. It is the sort of dullness and boredon that sometimes
makes men go to sleep at the wheel of an automobile when they are driving at
night and become too accustomed to the drone of the motor. Something of the
same sort is happening now. Bonbs keep falling and nothing much seems to

happen. London still stands and still fights back.

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We must shake off this drowsiness. We must tako a cold shower and

stop out for a fresh look around us, for a new realization of dangor, for
a now alortness to reality. Also we must beware the numbing effect of clever

slogans - slogans that toll us we can build up the nightiest defense nachine
in history and at the sare time continue "business as usual"; that tell us we
can do more work in fower hours; that we can havo our cake and eat it too.
Such slogans are dangorous sedatives. They nro broadcast either by non who do

not know what they are talking about or who know too woll what they are talking about, and by the lattor I monn those who are consciously working to undo
us.

No, we must sluff off this sanso of complacency, reject these slogans
and go to work to prove to a doubting world that a democracy knows just as

well C.S a dictatorship what it tokes to be tough-and can do it in a democratic
way.

The domocratic way to get tough is for individual units of industry to
voluntarily wold their cumulative capacities into an effective whole: for
labor to voluntarily work harder and longer whonever necessary; for capital

to throw its resources into the fight whorever possible to relieve the load
or the government; for tnxpayers to willingly contribute their dollars to
pay for the equipment WO are dotermined to have. Yos, the denocratic way is

for groups that soretines fool that their intorests conflict - labor and
management groups, forn and city groups, consumor and producer groups - to

join their collective assets and capacities into the one suprene effort of
a free people in support of a free government determined to preserve a

free way of life.

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I changed ny mind about talking to you on a particular subject in
which you are particularly interested, so I could como out here and talk to
you about the absolute necessity for doing these things. I wanted to tell
you that we ns a nation must forget our prejudices and join hands to build

for national defense - build with all our heart and hands and minds and

skill - build faster and faster and faster.

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COPY

BRITISH EMBASSY,

Washington, D.C.
13th December 1940.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose lists replacing the lists previously
sent to you and covering all the United States
securities which have been registered by British
holders at the Bank of England as at the 29th June 1940,

excluding only those which had been vested in the British

Treasury or sold by the private holders before that
date. There may be some small holdings which have been

registered late and are not included in these lists, but
the amount is very small. The lists include those
securities, about 67 in number and about $104 million

in value, which will be included in the Vesting Order
proposed to be made tomorrow, December 14th, 1940,
Believe me,

(Lists in

"Security Safe"

Dear Mr. Secretary,

HSK)

Very sincerely yours,

F. Phillips
The Honourable,

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

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December 13, 1940

me.

Mr. Clark of the Canadian Treasury lunched with

He brought up the question himself of the French
gold in Canada and asked me how I felt about it. So
I said, Well, about a month or six weeks ago Mr. Pinsent

asked me several times whether we would buy the French

gold and from that time on I took it perfectly for

granted that England was going to sell us around
$650,000,000 worth of gold, and I 80 told the President,
and that is one of the reasons why I have not been worried about an immediate financial crisis with England
because I felt that they had that gold which they could
sell us any time they wanted to, but, I said, I have
heard recently that there is some doubt about their

selling and frankly it worries me.
Then I told him what I was trying to get over was
that they must take the attitude that they have complete

confidence in the President and me so that when I go on
the Hill to be investigated or to make recommendations
in regard to our future relations with England and Canada,
I must be in the position that I am the hard-boiled,
two glass-eyed banker and let Congress take the position
that Morgenthau 18 too tough, rather than find myself in
a position that I am accused of being too sympathetic
and that you fellows have pulled the wool over my eyes.

I told him that, talking for myself, if they would
lay all of their assets on the table that we would continue to see that they got the material they needed and
I felt that they were fighting our battle and giving us
time to get ready and when we felt that they no longer
had sufficient resources left I was in favor of giving

them the war supplies necessary to continue the fighting.

He was very much pleased.

He said, to show you how he felt, we asked for some

figures from their Stabilization Fund and under their

law they are not permitted to give them out and so he
sent word to the Prime Minister what should he do and
Mackenzie-King sent word back that he should give us
everything that we asked for.

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see no My

dates 12/14

December 13, 1940

Dear Sir:

Would you please transmit for me, by a secret system,

the following message to the President:
QUOTE - Would appreciate a reply to
my message of December tenth in con-

nection with our proposal to the British.
UNQUOTE.

Yours sincerely,

The Communications Duty Officer,
Navy Department,

Washington, D. c.

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December 13, 1940

Dear Sir:

Would you please transmit for me, by a secret system,
the following message to the President:
QUOTE - Would appreciate a reply to
my message of December tenth in con-

nection
with our proposal to the British.
UNQUOTE.

Yours sincerely,

The Communications Duty Officer,:

Navy Department,

Washington, D. C.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 13, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Foley and Mr. Pehle

For your information:
A conference was held in Admiral Land's office at the Maritime
Commission today with respect to Danish ships tied up in American waters.
The Treasury was represented by Messrs. Foley, Chamberlain, Cox, and
Pehle, and the Maritime Commission by Rear Admiral Emory S. Land, Commissioner Truitt, General Counsel Farbach, Assistant General Counsel Lutz,
and Huntington Morse, Assistant to the Chairman.

Mr. Foley explained that in connection with the operation of the
Executive Orders relating to the freezing control, problems with respect to
such Danish ships were constantly arising and that the Secretary had requested that the question be explored. A discussion was had as to the
feasibility of this Government's purchasing or requisitioning such ships.

It was explained that we were interested in working out some method by
which the Danish ships in question could be made available to the British,
or taken over by this Government and other ships now in American trade

turned over to the British. Mr. Truitt in particular envisioned a number

of objections to any such procedure, among which were the following:

1. Title to the ships.
This is particularly a problem with regard to the Maerak Line
where a dispute exists between the agents of the line in the United States,
Isbrandtsen-Moller, and the owner of the ships, A. P. Moller, now in Denmark,
and his son Maersk Moller, now in the United States. It was suggested by
the Treasury that possibly both groups might agree to a transfer of the
Danish boats provided the purchase price was put in escrow in a frozen account pending settlement of the dispute.
2. American use of the boats.
Mr. Morse insisted that at least 50% of the boats were too small
to be of service in American trade. Admiral Land did not agree with this
statement and seemed convinced that the boats would be of real use. Mr.
Truitt raised several objections with respect to the use of these boats in
American trade. He said that the ships did not comply with the safety laws
and further that under our statutes it would be necessary that the ships be
manned principally by American seamen. Mr. Truitt referred to the difficulty
in getting American seamen to sail these vessels.

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-23. Lack of authority to requisition or purchase.

It was indicated that the Maritime Commission does not have
authority to requisition or purchase these vessels. The Navy Department
does have authority to purchase vessels and has been trying to purchase
particularly the Grete Maerak which is in the Philippines, but the purchase

has not been effected apparently due to difficulties with regard to title.

Admiral Land seemed to favor having some agency under Jesse Jones purchase
the boats.

4. British attitude.
Mr. Truitt indicated that one of the difficulties was the British
attitude in the matter. We suggested that the Treasury might be able to
work the matter out with the British, and Mr. Truitt indicated that the
Treasury might tell the British to accept the Danish offer and let the boats
sail under the Danish flag. Mr. Truitt was advised that the Treasury would
not wish to make any such suggestion to the British, with which Admiral Land
concurred.

5. Treasury's interest.
It was indicated that Secretary Hull was directed by the President
to see what could be done in this matter and was working on it, and the attitude of the Maritime Commission representatives, excluding Admiral Land,
seemed to be that the Treasury had no legitimate interest in the matter.

to

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DEC 1 3 1940

Dear Local

I have been mach concerned with the extent of
the price risss that have already occurred is many
important commitities, particularly in lumber and
a number of other basic defense materials. Looking
at a shart showing recent price changes among the
28 basic committee is the Dureas of Labor Statistics

daily price intex, a copy of which is enclosed, I
notice that prices of practically and-third of these

commodities have rises 20 per east or more since
August. Member prices. shown in a second about

enclosed, have had a very extensive rise, to for

above the peak seached is 1937. although total stocks
of lumber have not been greatly reduced.
I wanter what anties has been taken with respect

to the situations responsible for these price in-

ereance. and what further action, as any, ought to

be taken?

Sincerely,
(Signed) H Morgeathau, Jr.

Nea. Leea Septemens,

Consistioner of Price Stabilization,
Minisory Commission es National Defence,
Federal Receive Building.
Sachington, 3. a.

Inclosures - 2 charts which are incorporated in Haas' Business
Report of December 9, 1940.

AM
and

GOH:ph 12-12-40
2/1

FILE COPY
owB

By Messenger 340

CC to Mr. Thompson

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MOVEMENT OF BASIC COMMODITY PRICES
AUGUST 1939 = 100
PER

PER

PER

CENT

CENT

CENT

PER

Weekly Average

CENT

130

130

16 Row Industrial
Materials

125

Daily

128

128

124

124

125

16 Row Industrial
Materials

120

120

120

120

116

116

112

112

115

115

110

110

105

105

12 Foodstuffs

12 Foodstuffs

M

A

M

J

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F

D

A

S

O

N

D

12

26

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1940

1939

40

104
5

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95

19

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23

30

7

.....

95

108

14
21

100

100

108

28

104

JAN

DEC

NOV

1940

Percentage Change for Individual Commodities, August Low to December 4 and to December II. 1940
PER

PER

CENT

Wool

16 Raw Industrial Materials

12 Foodstuffs

CENT

+40

+40

Hides

Tallow
+35

+35

Butter

+30

+30

Cocoa

Wheat

Burlap
Shellac

+25

+25

Steel Scrap.dom
Lead

+20

Rosin
Zinc

+15

Flaxseed

+20

Barley
Steers
Sugar

+15

Cottonseed Oil
Coffee

Print Cloth
Copper
Rubber

+10

Steel Scrap. exp

+5

+10
+5

Cotton

Lard

Silk

Corn

0

Tin

0

Hogs

-5
-5

Aug. Low

Dec.4

Dec.II

Aug. Low

Dec 4

Dec.II

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LUMBER AND BUILDING MATERIAL PRICES AND LUMBER STOCKS
1939

1938

1937

1941

1940

PER

PER

CENT

Wholesale Prices

CENT

1926 =100, B.L.S.
116
116

112
112

106
106

104

104

100

100

LUMBER

96

96

92

92

BUILDING MATERIALS
88

88

84

84
J

J

1937

1939

1938

1940

1941

BILLIONS

BILLIONS

of

OF

BOARD FEET

Lumber Stocks at Mills

CARD FEET

11

11

10

10

9
9

TOTAL
8
8

HARDWOODS
7
7
6
6

5
5

4
4

SOFTWOODS
3
3

2
2

1

I
0

J

0

J

1937

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury

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1938

1939

1940

1941

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This
great % Dec
Hu.g by
Sir tred Phillips
at mas
meeting
13/40
Memorandum for the Secretary of the
Treasury

336

pee reply

from mefooton

11/17/40.
Last August the Secretary of the Treasury expressed

his regret that he was unable to undertake at that
time such amendment of the United States Customs law

as would have obviated the inclusion of the British
Purchase Tax in the dutiable value of goods imported
into the United States from the United Kingdom.
Deeply impressed by the disastrous effect which the

increase in valuation resulting from the Purchase
Tax was likely to have upon the trade of the United
Kingdom with the United States, Mr. D'Arcy Cooper

asked, on his arrival in Washington, that the matter
should be reconsidered. Mr. Cooper has been informed
confidentially that the Executive Committee on Com-

mercial Policy, with the concurrence of the Bureau of
Customs, has recommended that the Administration should

support a Bill introduced by Mr. Cullen for the amendment in the sense desired by the United Kingdom Govern-

ment of Section 402(c) of the Tariff Act of 1930 as
amended.

The British Purchase Tax became effective on the 21st
October and increased assessments are thus already

being made in accordance with the existing Customs law

of the United States. It is earnestly hoped that the

337

Secretary of the Treasury may now see his way to ask
Congress to enact, as a matter of urgency, the measure

which has been introduced by Mr. Cullen, subject, of
course, to such amendment as Mr. Morgenthau may consider necessary.

BRITISH EMBASSY
WASHINGTON, D.C.

December 1940

338
December 17, 1940.
To:

Secretary Morgenthau

From: Mr. Gaston
I an attaching a memorandum from Commissioner Johnson on the

subject of the a handed to you by Sir Frederick Phillips,

and also the first draft of a proposed report to the Chairman of
the Ways and Means Committee on the Gullen bill. This bill, with

some necessary amendment as indicated in Johnson's a would

accomplish the object of the British to exclude their purchase tax
from the computation of ad valores duties.

We see no objection to thus amending our law. However, it is
to be doubted that the Treasury should take the lead is proposing
the change. In the last several years we have established the procedent that the Treasury speaks to Congress on the administrative

feasibility of changes in the Tariff Act, but not on questions of

tariff policy. As to tariff policy, we have a voice in the deliberations of the Executive Committee on Commercial Policy, which through
the Secretary of State or the President seems the proper authority
to recommend policy changes in the law. The sound reason for this

precedent is that the Treasury has to hold a neutral position as between the conflicting interests of importers, exporters and domestic
samufacturers in its administration of the Tariff Act.

The value of this course is illustrated in the present case.
The Cullen amendment is sponsored by the National Council of Amer-

loan Importers. We know that it will be opposed by the Association

of Woolen Manufacturere, the New Sampahire Menufacturers Association
(which wrote to John Bulliven), and by the Columbia Carbon Company.

We also understand that it will be opposed by the American Tariff
League.

We can, however, quietly facilitate the emendment before the
proper committees after it bas been formally sponsored by other
authority.
The same point is raised by another accordance attached
hereto which Mr. Cochran sent directly to Mr. Johnson. We have no
objection to on emendment to the administrative provisions of the

Tariff Act to permit the admission free under toad of materials

supplied by a foreign government which are to be used in the manu-

facture of articles ordered by that government for export. It is

administratively feasible and the policy involved seems to be a
proper one under the present circumstances. A matter of tariff
policy is involved, however, and the recommendation should some
from another source, and that is the State Department on reeca-

a of the Executive Committee on Commercial Policy, or the
President.
REGISS

200
399
MEMORANDUM

Butterworthinefort

December 13, 1940.

Inasmuch as the studies prepared in the Treasury and the data supplied by

Sir Frederick Phillips cover in detail the external financial situation of Great
Britain, it only seems worthwhile to mention in this memorandum a few general

impressions obtained at first hand: first and foremost that the future British
supply requirements from the United States will be almost limitless both in kind

and in quantity and will ultimately call for dollar payment far in excess of the
value of the gold or security assets which the United States may acquire for
cash from Great Britain.

The recent past casts light on the near future. Until the emergence of the
Churchill Government, which almost coincided with the conquest of Norway, Denmark,

Holland, Belgium and France, British supply requirements from the United States

were held down to modest levels, the then policy being to conserve British dollar
resources and use other sources of production whenever possible. When these

sources of production were no longer available and the critical period of an
isolated Britain abruptly occurred, of necessity the British supply demands of
the United States mounted enormously. And now hostilities are again taking on

a new violence! Activity on the sea has increased decidedly; air warfare has
reached a new intensity; and active land operations have again begun on the

European mainland and in North Africa. This condition indubitably presages

greater British supply requirements from the United States which, it is my impression, will in time reach astronomical proportions. Concurrently British
donestic production for war purposes has declined well below the August 1 level

despite the coming into production of new plant facilities. This has been due to

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400

(a) destruction by bombing of factories and public utilities;
(b) transportation "delays incident to air raids:
(c) reduction in efficiency and working hours as a result of the
excessively long hours of labor worked during the critical
summer months, of increased air raids, blackout delays, in-

creased illness, etc.
Given the continuance of air raids and the rate of mobilization of man power for

the fighting services, it would be optimistic to expect British production to
increase decidedly. It may well decline drastically if lucky hite are made on
key plants.

Furthermore, even without air raids British industrial production unaugmented
by supplies from its former ally France and the former European neutrale would
have proved inadequate for modern war. The ability of the British Empire (exclusive of Canada) to produce manufactured war material has been and will continue

to be strictly limited. Accordingly, North America is the only available source
of adequate supplies of instruments of war. On this source Great Britain has
begun to draw and must continue to draw in ever increasing amounts if she is
to have a chance of competing with the German-organized industrial production
of the Continent of Europe.
To date British supply requirements from the United States have been

particular, if numerous; soon they will be general and limitless. In time
Great Britain will require everything and everything in increasing quantity.

Thus far the American policy of giving "all aid to Britain short of war"
has not had to be defined in terms of finance. Great Britain has been able
to liquidate readily realisable assets and pay cash [except in the case of the
destroyer deal when payment was made in land bases for the supplies which,
through action by the American Government or otherwise, were made available.

- -3. -

401

That halcyon is now almost ended.

No Great Power engaged in a life or death struggle has been more dependent on

benevolent and drastic action by a non-belligerent country than Great Britain is

now dependent on action by the United States. Willy-nilly, the United States
holds one end of the Scales of Fate on which balances precariously the future of

the British Empire. This is, of course, well understood by the ruling group in
Great Britain [though not by the British people as a whole The British Government is aware that it is not in a position to resist quid pro quo demands from
the United States. Concessions by the British Government in connection with

financing British supply requirements in the United States will ultimately be
accorded, though in some cases reluctantly, for the British are not ready givers
and they are even now conscious of post war politic, economic and strategic

implications of a drastic liquidation of British oversea's assets. But the
fact remains that they will in the last analysis stand and deliver.

WL

402
PLAIN

HR

Peiping Via N. R.
Dated December 13. 1940

Rec'd 11:30 a.m., 14th.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

516, December 13, 4 p.m.

Vernacular press here reports that during yesterday's conference
of the Hsin Min Vui, Wang Shih Chin, Director General of Finance of
the North China Political Affairs Commission, gave following information
concerning Commission's expenditures and issuance of Federal Reserve

Bank notes: He said, with reference to Government's estimates for next

fiscal year that "various sides" had requested issuance of an additional
$330,000,000 worth of Federal Reserve Bank notes and that when this amount

had been rejected as being too large a request for issuance of notes valued
at Federal Reserve Bank $260,000,000 was approved in spite of fact that

total expected revenue during next fiscal year would amount to only Federal
Reserve Bank $160,000,000.

Mr. Wang also said that since the establishment of North China regime
three years ago a total of Federal Reserve Bank $400,000,000 had been spent
by the Government: that the total amount of Federal Reserve Bank notes
issued to date was $700,000,000 including $50,000,000 in subsidiary notes:

and that the continued purchase of "fapi" by the bank at the fixed rate of
exchange cost the bank approximately Federal Reserve Bank $5,000,000 a month.

Sent to the Department. Repeated to Chungking. By mail to Tientsin
and Shanghai.
SMYTH
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12/16/40

OMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE
ADDRESS REPLY TO

OF INTERNAL REVENUE

December 13, 1940

AND REFER TO

MEMORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY:

Pursuant to your recent request, steps are being

taken immediately to examine all of the distilled spirits,

wine, and malt beverage labels previously approved by the
former Federal Alcohol Administration, with a view to
recelling approvals of any labels on which statements,
designs, or representations are used which imply sponsorship
by any division of the Government or &ppeal in any manner

to the service forces, or which are otherwise objectionable.
For this purpose, the regular label examination staff has
been increased by transferring personnel from other sections
of the Unit. Since there are nearly 500,000 labels which
will have to be examined individually, it appears that
this task will require approximately six weeks.
It is not believed that there would be any
advantage to increasing the label personnel further by
additional transfers from outside the Unit because of space
limitations and because of the importance of restricting
this work to employees who already have some understanding

of the Unit's labeling requirements.

Steps are also being taken to have point of sale
and other local advertising thoroughly examined by the

Unit's field organization, with a view to preventing the

dissemination of advertising similar to the Army and Navy
posters circulated in Philadelphia.

Stewart Berkshire,
Deputy Commissioner.

403

404
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT TO THE SECRETARY

December 13, 1940

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:

Chairman Ludlow of the Appropriations Committee has

gotten slowed up in his hearings, and he now advises that

they will have to cancel the appointment for Monday. If
convenient to you they would be glad to have you at 10 o'clock

on Tuesday, or if that day is not convenient to you Mr. Ludlow
said that any day that may be convenient to you will be
arranged by the Committee.

the

CONFIDENTIAL)

405

PARAPHRASE

CONFIDENTIAL

A telegram (no. 135) of December 13, 1940, from the
American
follows: Embassy in Nanking reads substantially as

It is stated in Chinese newspapers in Nanking that

the draft of the regulations of the Central Bank of Issue
has been referred for consideration to the Legislative
Yuan in Nanking after approval by the "Central Political
Council". According to information received from m the
French Consul, Chou Fu-hai informed the French Consul
on be the morning of December 13 that the notes which would

placed in circulation on January 10 would be maintained on a par with currency of the Chinese National
Government and that in the Nanking area both currencies

would remain in circulation.

406
BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

13th December, 1940.

Personal and Secret

Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a

copy of the latest report received
from London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

work Buther
The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,

Washington, D. C.

407

Telegram received from London
dated December 11th.
1.

Ethiops.

In the areas East of the Sudan

frontier and South of the Provincial boundary of
Eritrea rebel bands are causing considerable trouble

to local Italian garrisons. It is estimated that a
minimum of six Italian Colonial brigades are engaged

by these activities.
2.

Royal Air Force. Night of the 10th/11th.
Sixty-eight bombers were despatched to

attack the following targets:
Number of

Locality

Targets

Aircraft

Mannheim

Inland port and

27 heavy

Industrial and communications

13 heavy

Transports and shipping

9 heavy

electric power station

Western
Germany

French ports
3.

19 medium

German Air Force. Night of December 8th/9th.

Amended report gives casualties in the London area 116

killed 544 seriously injured.
4. Aircraft casualties in operations over and
from the British Ieles:
Probable by A.A.

Enemy:

By our fighters

One damaged

One bomber
5.

British: One medium bomber missing.

CONFIDENTIAL
Paraphrase of Code Radiogram
Received at the War Department
at 11:58, December 18,1940

London, filed 13:45, December 18, 1940.

EXTRACT

1. The Curtis P-40 fighter has not as yet been
in combat or assigned to an operational unit. This plane
has been assigned to a photo reconnaissance unit for a test.

As soon as possible I will oable further information on this
subject.
LEE

Distribution:
Secretary of Treasury

Office of Naval Intelligence

AG-2
G-3
AS

CONFIDENTIAL

408

409
Paraphrase of Code Radiogram

Received at the far Department
at 11:58 a.m., December 13, 1940

CONFIDENTIAL
Lendon, filed 14:30, December 13, 1940.
1. Forty-nine planes of the Bomber Command during the
night of December 11-12th delivered attacks on various harbore
and airdrense at Brest and Boulogne and on the German cities of
Ladwigshafen and Mannhain. The same night the Coastal Command

laid mines and bombed two Channel ports. The next day its planes
attacked three enemy vessels; and the following night bombed a

French port. The British attacks on Sidi Barrani and other
Italian positions on December 11th were supported by heavy bomber

attacks to aid the advance of the land forces. That night British
bombers attacked retreating Italian troops.
2. Daylight German air operations on Thursday, December

12, consisted of a fighter sweep over the Thomas Estuary and shipping and coastal patrols over the south and southeastern coast.
About 90 planes were plotted. That night there were widespread

activities over large areas, the main attacks being against Leeds,
Sheffield and other Midland industrial towns, and there were many

flights over London. Additional reports received indicate that
British planes over Britain during day and night of December 11th
were 130 and 450, respectively.
3. During daylight hours three German planes were

destroyed and three damaged. That night British fighters destroyed
one and damaged one plane.

CONFIDENTIAL

410

CONFIDENTIAL
4. A total of about 30,000 Italian priseners have been
taken in Egypt.

5. New Italian fighters encountered by British planes
over Sicily closely reseable the Hawker Hurricane and while they
have fewer guns, they have about the same tested speed. They are

powered with the German Dainler Bens enginee. Italian fighters
have some increased gun power and their enginee have been boosted.

6. According to reports, the public utilities are
practically back to normal in Bristel.
7. Thirty-two American destroyers have arrived in Britain.

s. There are reliable reports that the refinery in
Terneusen, Holland, has been completely destroyed, as well as two-

thirds of all factories in Gelsenkirehen, Pressia.
LEE

Distribution:
Military Aide to the President
Secretary of Mar
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Asst. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff- 2

War Plans Division

Office of Neval Intelligence
Air Corps - 2
0-3

CONFIDENTIAL

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411
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
Chaunda

For

TO

FROM

DATE December 13. 1940

Miss

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

44,000
55,000

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York sold 15,000 in registered sterling to

a non-reporting bank.

Open market sterling was steady at 4.03-3/4. Transactions of the reporting

banks were as follows:

Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

& 2,000
L 1,000

The Cuban peso discount narrowed to 8-7/8% today, as against 9-1/4% yesterday.
his currency has now regained most of the ground lost last Tuesday, when the discount
widened from 8-1/2% to 9-5/8%.

Closing quotations for the other currencies were:
Canadian dollar
Swiss franc
Swedish krona
Reichsmark
Lira

Argentine peso (free)

Brasilian milreis (free)
Mexican peso

13-1/2% discount
.2321
.2385
.4005
.0505
.2360
.0505
.2070

The yuan in Shanghai was 1/32# lower at 5-29/324.
There were no purchases or sales of gold consummated by us today.

In our report of October 18, reference was made to the U.S. Fund's purchase
200,000,000 Brazilian milreis from the Banco do Brazil as fiscal agent of the
Brazilian Government, representing the first exchange transaction that took place under
the terms and conditions of the agreement set forth in the letter dated July 15. 1937
from the Secretary of the Treasury to the Minister of Finance of Brasil, as supplemented
and modified. It will be recalled that the U.S. equivalent of $10,000,000 was credited
0 the account of the Banco do Brazil as fiscal agent of the Brasilian Government on
he books of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Today, the Banco do Brazil cabled
e Federal Reserve Bank of New York to debit this account on the Federal's books

412
-2-

th $5,000,000, with which the Brazilian Bank is to repurchase one-half of the
milreis sold to the U.S. Fund on October 18. Having received the Treasury's approval,
the Federal Reserve Bank also returned to the gold account of the Banco do Brazil as
fiscal agent of the Brazilian Government $5,040,538.17 of the $10,103,967.74 worth of
gold which had been set aside in October as collateral. After completion of the
above operations, the U.S. Fund holds 100,000,000 Brazilian milreis, equivalent to
$5,000,000. and the value of the Brazilian gold held by the Federal Reserve Bank as
collateral is $5,063,429.57.
Having received the Treasury's authority under both the Gold Reserve Act and
Executive Order No. 8389. as amended, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York effected

the following transfers of gold in its vaults today:

$1,122,000 from the account of the National Bank of Denmark to B.I.S.
Account #2. Gold in B.I.S. Account #2 is owned by the B.I.S.
1,119,000 from B.I.S. Account #2 to the account of the National Bank
of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
These transfers merely represent a gold purchase from the Danish Bank and a gold sale
to the Yugoslavian Bank by the B.I.S., and do not appreciably change the gold holdings
of the B.I.S. in New York, The B.I.S. paid the Danish Bank in dollars withdrawn from
its dollar account at the Federal, and payment to the B.I.S. by the Yugoslavian Bank
WB settled through the books of the B.I.S., probably in Swiss francs.
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York granted the Central Bank of E1 Salvador

three-month loan of $25,000 yesterday, setting aside as collateral $28,519 in gold
from the Salvadorean Bank's earmarked account. The total of such loans now outstanding

amounts to $922,000, secured by $1,032,336 in gold.

The Bombay gold price was unchanged at the equivalent of $33.83. Silver in
Bombay was 1/16 higher at the equivalent of 42.92
In London, the prices fixed for spot and forward silver were both unchanged,
at 22-7/88 and 22-13/16d respectively. The dollar equivalents were 41.54 and 41.42
Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at 34-3/44.
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35$.

We made five purchases of silver totaling 580,000 ounces under the Silver
Purchase Act. Of this amount, 355,000 ounces represented sales from inventory, and
the remaining 225,000 ounces consisted of new production from foreign countries, for
forward delivery.

We also purchased 300,000 ounces of silver from the Bank of Canada under our
regular monthly agreement to buy up to 1,200,000 ounces. So far this month, we have
purchased 500,000 ounces from that source.

HMP
CONFIDENTIAL

413
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 13. 1940
TO

hime.

Secretary Morgenthan

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following information

regarding the transactions listed on the attached statement in Italian accounts
maintained with the Chase National Bank, New York,

amp

Italiana, N.Y., for

account of BancaCommerciale Italiana,

Banca Commerciale

Paid To

Banco di Napoli

Trust Co., N.Y.

Account Debited

Debited

$250,000

Amount

Chase National Bank

Received From

Account Credited

Amount

Banco di Napoli

Trust Co., N.Y.

Banca Commerciale

Credited

Date
Dec. 13 $250,000

Italiana, N.Y.

Rome

415
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 13. 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following transaction in
the account of the Deutsche Golddiskontbank, Berlin, maintained with the Chase
National Bank, New York.
Date

November 11

Amount Debited
$ 55,990

AMS

Paid To

Irving Trust Co., N.Y., for

account of Carl Marks and
Co., Inc.

416
December 14, 1940

Mr. Morris Wilson, representing Lord Beaverbrook, called on me at 9:00 this morning. He said
that Lord Beaverbrook wanted me to know that in view

of the interest of the President of the United

States in getting 30 planes to Greece, that he (Lord
Beaverbrook) was prepared to send at once 30 new

Defiants to Greece, and put in the card of the

President of the United States to accompany these

planes. Mr. Wilson also said that at some future
date the English would like to get another 30 P-40s,

but Morris Wilson wanted to make it plain that as soon
as Lord Beaverbrook knew that President Roosevelt

himself was in the picture, he said, "Why, of course,

will drop all technicalities and help in the situation." (At this time, I was not aware of the fact
I

that President Roosevelt evidently had made no
promises of any kind to the Greeks with regard to

planes. )

417
December 14, 1940

Before talking to the Greek Minister this
morning, I telephoned to Cordell Hull and told him
of my message from Lord Beaverbrook. He said it

was all right to transmit this to the Greek Minister, provided that I made it perfectly plain to
him that we wanted to know, if the Greeks accepted

these 30 English planes, whether they felt our
promise to them was completely fulfilled.

I then told Hull that nobody in my shop had
given the Greek Minister any promise, and that I was
curious to know had he (Hull) heard from the President

in regard to this. He said, "No." So I said, Well,

did the President communicate with Welles or Berle,
because both men had been in touch with my shop on

this subject?" He said that he didn't know but he

would find out.

Then Mr. Hull went into a long talk that
I was the only person who could convince the
President that he must do something about preparedness

in this country, particularly on planes, because I had

all the figures. Well, I told Cordell that I could do

my little bit, but that he and others would also have
to convince the President, and that he (Hull) would
particularly have to convince him as to the seriousness
of the world situation.
Hull told me that last night at the Manufacturers'
Association, the man who got the most applause was Gen-

eral Wood, the so-called appeaser. Hull considered the

whole situation extremely critical.

418
December 14, 1940

The Greek Minister told me this morning that

about a month ago he called on Mr. Sumner Welles, and

asked for 60 planes. During that and subsequent conversations, Mr. Welles told him he could have 30 planes
from the United States Army. Mr. Welles referred the
Greek Minister to our armed services and, at no time in
reporting his conversations between representatives of
the United States Government and himself, did he bring

in the name of the President. It is quite evident to

me that no promise from the President was communicated
to the Greek Government through the Greek Minister.

I very carefully told the Greek Minister

that I had a message from Lord Beaverbrook, via Morris
Wilson, that the English were prepared to ship 30
Defiant planes at once to Greece and that the English,
at some future time, wanted an additional 30 planes

from us. I told the Minister that I personally thought
it was a very good bargain. He said that speaking for

himself he thought so also. I said that we would like to
know as soon as convenient whether the Greek Government

would be pleased with this transaction and consider that

it was a fulfillment of our promise. He said he would get

a message off at once and let me know.

419

December 14, 1940

My dear Cordell:

I am sending you herewith a time-table of our
various conversations in regard to release of 30
planes to the Greeks.

I am satisfied from a conversation that I had
this morning with the Greek Minister that, at no
time, was it intimated to him that the President
of the United States had anything to do with the
plane transaction. The Greek Minister informed

me that the only promises made to him were by

Mr. Summer Welles.

The Greek Minister promised to transmit Lord
Beaverbrook's proposal to Athens at once and would
communicate with me just as soon as he gets a
reply.

Yours sincerely,

Honorable Cordell Hull,
Secretary of State,
Washington, D.C.
Enclosure

upto Sec. it 420
Planes for Oreans

Since July, 1940, conversations have been carried on between the Greek Minister and the Linison Committee. It was not
until September, however, that any specific request was made for
pursuit shipe. During September and October a number of agents
purporting to act for the Greek Government called upon the
Limison Committee to request either the immediate release of
fifty or more pursuit planes from United States Government stocks

or elearance to place as order for fifty or more pursuit planes
for immediate delivery with American manufacturers. In some
instances. those agents were halfheartedly supported by the
Minister of Greece.

On September 30th, the Greek Chanceller called upon the
Lisison Committee to state that a request which had been received
from one of the Greek Government agents for fifty to seventy-five
Vultee pursuit planes was officially recognised by the Greek
Government. This request was referred to the Advisory Commission,
the War Department, and the Navy Department in accordance with
the usual procedure. On October 10th, the Greek Chanceller was

advised informally that this request could not be approved.

During the latter part of October, several conferences were
held with the Greek Minister in as attempt to find some source
for planes and enginee but without success. During the course
of these conversations, the Greek Minister also wished to know
as to the availability of the Swedish planes and the Thai planos

which had been on order and which were taken over by the Air Corps.
He was advised that these planes could not be released.

During the first part of November, the Limison Committee was
advised by Curtise Wright that the latter could produce approxisately 100 P-40 pursuit ships over and above the number called

for by existing orders for delivery in the summer and fall of
1941. The Air Gorps stated that 10 would not place as order for
these planes. se that they becano available for allocation to
other purchasers.

Aa allocation was determined in conference with the State
Department as follows:

so for the British

30 for the Greeks
20 for the Chinese.

421

-3The Greek Minister was advised that possibly thirty P-40
airplanes could be made available with delivery in the late
summer and fall of 1941, but the Minister took the stand that the
Greek Government would not place such an order unless immediate

delivery could be secured.
Through the combined efforts of the Limison Committee and
the State Department, coerdination was secured between the Greek
Minister and the British Purchasing Commission in order that a
deal sight be worked out whereby the British would defer immediate

delivery for thirty planes in favor of the Greeks, and then subsequently make up this deferment from the Greek order during the
summer.

The British Purchasing Commission took this matter up with
London and advised the Limison Committee that no such arrangement

could be made for the following reasonal
(1)

The British are already giving the best possible

assistance to the Greeks by sending what the High
Command considers the proper number of the proper

types of aircraft that can be spared.
(2)

Thirty P-40 please would not. by themselves, form
one squadren. and under the present plane there
are no other P-60's operating is the same sens.

(3) There are no spare parts available against the P-40
planes now being produced here.

It should be emphasised, however, that the British were saxious
to avoid any stounderstanding and were only taking that action as
11 was deemed to be for the best intereste of Greece. After the
Greek Minister had been advised of this situation by the British,
he addressed a letter to Under Secretary of State Summer Welles
on or about December 6th asking for more help.

It was during the period when the British were considering

the advisability of deferring delivery of P-40's that Mr. Velles

referred the Press to the Linicon Committee for information which
resulted is a public statement on November 30th announcing the
fact that negotiations between the United States and Greece were

being carried on. After the Greek Minister presented his letter

to Mr. Velles, newspaper stories appeared on December 8th and 9th

to the effect that thirty P-40 planes would be made available to
the Greeks, and in some instances these stories stated as a fast
that fifteen of these planes would come from British ordere and
fifteen from United States orders.

422

.3.
On Monday. December 9th. Mr. Philip Young of the President's
Limison Committee communicated with General Brett of the Air
Corps, who advised that neither he nor General Marshall know
anything about planes being released to the Greek Government. An

inquiry was also made as to the possibility of making P-40's
available from United States stocks. Mr. Young was advised that
the Air Corps had no P-40's in fighting condition.

In an attempt to get more information, Assistant Secretary
of State Berle was consulted and he advised that the State
Department. presumably Under Secretary Welles, had received

specific instructions from the President to make thirty P-40
planes available to Greece. It was explained to Mr. Berle that

these planes would either have to come from British orders now in
production or from Aray stocks, that the Air Corps seemed to have
no P-40's suitable for combat, that no P-40's vere being produced

currently for the Army, and that the British were taking the

entire Ourtiee P-40 production which was approximately equal to
eight planes per day.

Mr. Berle felt very strongly that the British should release
the planes to the Greeks regardless of the tactical and military

disadvantages mentioned above. It was suggested that the British
Purchasing Commission be asked to reconsider and further to

inquire into the possibility of finding some other method to help
the Greeks which might be more pertiment.

After reconsideration. the British Purchasing Commission
again emphasised its reasons for not making P-40's available and

restated its position that 18 would be very glad to help the
Greeks in any other way that could be suggested.

The Greek Minister called upon Mr. Young on Monday, December

9th, to inquire with respect to the newspaper stories mentioned
above. He was advised that the release of planes vas still being
considered and that no definite action had yet been taken.
Assistant Secretary of State Berle telephoned Mr. Young on
December 9th to inquire concerning the conversation with the Greek

Minister. Mr. Berle took the stand. because of the instructions
the State Department had received from the President, that
thirty P-40's would have to be made available and inquired as to

the use of legal priorities against current British deliveries.

It was his thought that this could be used to exert pressure upon
the British Ambassador to cause a voluntary British deferment. It
was explained to Mr. Berle that forcible deferment could be secured

423

by rejection of expert license application. or by placing as

order for Army P-40's giving is priority, but that in the latter

case 11 would be necessary for the Army to then release the P-60's
for delivery to Greece, a situation which would involve technical

difficulties.

At this point Secretary Morgenthau was immediately advised of
the situation, and he called Secretary Hull on the telephone to
ask his what was being done. During the course of the conversation,
it was pointed out to Secretary Full that the British were getting
fighting planes at the rate of 10 to 1 as against the United States.
a condition which made is impossible to ask the Army to release
any planes for the Greeks. Secretary Morgenthan suggested, however,

that probably the British had forty or fifty P-40's already

delivered but awaiting shipment in American porte, the idea being
that perhaps Greece could take some of those if they had transportation available. Secretary Morgenthan said that he would ask
the British Purchasing Commission about this possibility.
Shortly thereafter. and subsequent to a conversation with
representatives of the Air Section of the British Purchasing
Commission. Secretary Morgenthen talked with John F. Stone. secretary to Mr. Hull, during which Mr. Morgenthau stated that the
British Purchasing Commission pointed out that if thirty P-40
Curtiss planes were made available to the Greeks, the chances are
that they would lay somewhere in Greece unused because the proper

facilities and landing fields were not available. Further, that

the English had over 400 fighting planes already assisting the
Greeks, so that is would seem a wiser course of action if the
United States could furnish some help in a form which would be of
greatest use as determined by the British after consulting with
General Netaxas. The result of this conference should be treassitted to the United States through the Greek authorities.
Mr. Korgenthan added that the English had offered to send
thirty Hurricanes which could land in a cow pasture as landing

fields of the type accessary for the P-40's were not available.
It was also pointed out that the Greek pilots had not been trained
to fly the P-40 planes. so that the probable result would be that
the P-40's if made available could not be used. Secretary
Morgenthan also suggested to Mr. Stone that the Greek Minister be

sent for and brought up to date. The following day Secretary Hull
called to say that it was his understanding that the Greeks had
been promised thirty planes. Secretary Morgenthau stated that no one
in the Treasury had promised any one anything.

December 14, 1940

424
SECMET

FROM GENERAL WATSON TO SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

PRESIDENT WITHOLDING ACTION YOUR CABLE REGARDING

PROPOSALS TO INITION UNTIL RETURN WASHINSTON : HE DESIRES TO
DISCUSS THE MATTER IN FURTHER DETAILS
REGARDS

ESWIN M WATSON

SECRET

SECRET.

Received at house
8:50 a.m 12/14/40

messenger from
White House.
DEM.

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December 14, 1940

Sir Frederick Phillips called me this
morning and said he was working on the figures
as to how much money they had and how long it
would last. He said he wanted to ask me what
my best estimate was as to how long it would

take to get the necessary legislation through

Congress. I told him I couldn't answer this
question because I have to await the return

of the President, at which time I expect to

discuss the ways and means with the President

fully. Sir Frederick said that in view of the

fact that the President will be back in a
couple of days, he will be glad to wait.

426
December 14, 1940
2:20 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Prime Minister
Mackenzie
King:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Morgenthau speaking.

K:

H.M.Jr:

Oh, hello. Can you hear me all right?
I hear you fine.

Oh, first rate. I received a message from
Churchill today. In it he says: "Your telegram

K:

of December 11th, am very grateful to you for
helping me about Purvis. Cabinet proposed to
meet your point about his relations with the
Ambassador on basis of independence but subject
to harmonious consultation.

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:
K:

Oh, I see.

Alas, all this is now influx. Lothian is grievous
loss at this juncture, but it will clear up the
point about the independence all right.
Oh, I didn't know that you were going to - that
you took me that seriously and passed it on.
Oh, well, I wanted to play safe - not take any
chance.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I really thought it would be a great

K:

Yes. I agreed with you and that is why I took

H.M.Jr:

Well, I think it's

K:

mistake.

it on myself. I told him that I was just taking
it on myself to indicate what I felt - there
was likely to be a situation, you see.
Howe will be landing there this week and I
thought it would be well for him to have a good
talk with Howe, that Howe understood the situation

pretty well.

427
-2Yes, he does.

But you know I just got pretty bad news.
H.V.Jr:

The ship that Howe was on was torpedoed.
Really.

We don't know yet whether he has been saved
or any on board have been saved.
H.M.Jr:

Oh, I'm shocked.

Oh, it's terrible, yes.
M.M.Jr:

I'm shocked.

He is 300 miles from the coast of Scotland

which gives me a little hope. If it were about
700 miles off the coast of Ireland I'd feel
very concerned but I - the word came first
that they were being attacked, then later that

she had been tornedoed and then nothing further
has come. That was early this morning and we
haven't heard any word today and we can't get

any further word. Be a terrible loss if poor

Howe is gone.

Yeah. Well, it is a terrible time for everybody.
Frightfully terrible, yes. My, you must have
been shocked at poor Lothian's death.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, it was so unexpected.

Oh, terrible.
H.M.Jr:

So unexpected.

Yes, and he's such a fine fellow.
H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

By the way, you might be interested in the
balance of this telegram from Churchill.
Yes, I would.

428
3-

He says: "I am sure you will be glad about

K:

Libya. We must be doubly thankful when we
remember where we were four months ago. I am
very glad we ran the risk in the teeth of the
invasion menace of sending our best tanks to

this distant battlefield. Consequences of

victory
be far-reaching. We must be worthy
of
them. may
If
H.M.Jr:

Yes.

K:

They've been pretty plucky about parting with

H.M.Jr:

some of their stuff there to send it off to
Italy or off to Africa.

K:

Very. Well, this time it was a good gamble.
Oh, splendid. Hasn't it been?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. It has encouraged us all down here.

K:

Yes. Well, that's nice to hear.

H.M.Jr:

K:

H.M.Jr:

K:

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Prime Minister, if you would send for
Clarke, who I think left here yesterday, he
could give you a picture of what I've been
doing this last week

I'll be glad to do that.
which I think would interest you because

it's pretty important on the financial front,
and he sat in on some of the conferences with
Frederick Phillips.

Yes, well, I have left word for him whenever
he gets here to come and see me just after he
has had a talk with his Minister.
And there was some particular thing that I
asked him to tell you.

K:

Yes. Have to get that.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, I sent a message to you through him.

K:

I see, yes. Well, thank you 80 much.

429

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

Clarke
was very constructive and his attitude
was
excellent.

Oh, I'm so pleased to hear that.
His attitude was excellent.

K:

Yes, and he's a good - he's a very able servant.

H.M.Jr:

And we were glad to have him down here.

K:

Oh, I'm so pleased to hear that. Many thanks.

H.M.Jr:
K:

Right. Well, thank you and .....
By the way, I was just going to say I nearly
came down myself.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, really.

K:

If I could have managed it, I would have come

to Lothian's funeral on Monday. I thought of
it, in fact intended yesterday - he was to have

dined with me here tonight.
H.M.Jr:

Oh, for heaven sakes.

K:

Yes, and to have met my colleagues this

H.M.Jr:

Oh, that's too bad.

K:

I would have gone down but unfortunately

afternoon.

it's out of the question now with this word
about Howe, but there have been other things
that have kept me as well, but I had it all
planned the day before to send you a line to
say that I'd be there at the funeral and
probably on Monday. However, I'll be getting
down there some day again.

H.M.Jr:
K:

I hope 80 soon. I hope when you come it will
be on a cheerful mission.

Well, thank you, indeed. You'll be seeing the
President, will you tell him that I had nearly
turned up?

430

-5H.M.Jr:

I'll do that.

K:

And give him my best wishes.

H.M.Jm:

I'll do that.

K:

May I extend my good wishes to Mrs. Morgenthau

and
yourself and your family for the approaching
season?

H.M.Jr:

Thank you so much.

K:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

X:

Good-bye.

H.M.Jr:

Good-bye.

COPY

PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
TO:

American Embassy, Vichy

DATE:

December 14, 1940, 5 p.m.

NO.:

846

Casablanca's no. 236 of Dec. 13, 5 p.m.

Please confer with the appropriate authorities and

point out this Government's interest in this report;
obtain all the information you can regarding it and its

possible significance, particularly regarding the respective purpose for which this gold shipment will

be used, and any further details of a material nature.

HULL

S:FEIS:AH
EA:MSG

PA/D

431

432
EXPORTS OF PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, SCRAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL

FROM THE UNITED STATES TO JAPAN, RUSSIA, SPAIN, AND GREAT BRITAIN
AS SHOWN BY DEPARTURE PERMITS GRANTED

Week ended December 14, 1940

:

RUSSIA

JAPAN

SPAIN

GREAT BRITAIN

:

ROLEUM PRODUCTS

Fuel and Gas 011 (including
Diesel oil)

80,000 Bbls.

Crude -

Blended or California
High Octane Crude*
All Other Crude

282,565 Bbls.

7,138 Bbls.

Gasoline -

Gasoline A**
Gesoline B*

All Other Gasoline

78,000 Bbls.

162,154 Bbls.
71,976 Bbls.

67,000 Bbls.

Lubricating Oil Aviation Lubricating Oil***
All Other Lubricating oil

338 Bbls.
101,458 Bbls.

99 Bbls.
100 Bbls.

Tetraethyl Lead ***

"Boosters", such as IsoOctane, Iso-Hexane, or
Iso-Pentane
CRAP IRON AND SCRAP STEEL

Number 1 Heavy Melting Scrap
All Other Scrap

250 Tons

1,450 Tons

Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research end Statistics.
December 16, 1940
source: Office of Merchant Ship Control, Treasury Department.

Any material from which by commercial distillation there can be separated
more than 3 percent of aviation motor fuel, hydrocarbon or hydrocarbon
mixture - President's regulations of July 26, 1940.
Aviation Gasoline.

As defined in the President's regulations of July 26, 1940.

433

PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, (Paris) Vichy
DATE: December 14, 1940, 7 p.m.
NO.:

1139

FOR TREASURY FROM MATTHEWS.

This afternoon I had a visit from Roger Auboin of the
Bank for International Settlements. He had been in Paris
for several weeks for the purpose of arranging some method
of payment for the French shareholders of the Bank in
occupied France, and had just returned.
Auboin told me that somewhat paradoxically, the Germans

have, under their orders against foreign exchange transactions
in the occupied area, made it impossible for the shareholders

to be paid in the French franc equivalent of Swiss franc
dividends; there is, on the other hand, no legal obstacle
to transferring funds to the occupied area from the unoccupied
area. Therefore it was his suggestion that the dividends
be paid to the Bank of France at Clermont-Ferrand in Swiss

francs, since dollar payments are blocked, and the shareholders residing in occupied France be paid the equivalent

in French francs. At present the Bank of France 18 in
such a timid frame of mind that it was reluctant to make an
approach to the German High Commissioner in Paris. That

was why Auboin himself went to Paris. He took the matter
up with Yost, who was quite agreeable to this procedure after
he had made certain that no order of the Devisen Shhutz

434

-2Kemmondo was violated thereby and that he would not have

to consult with the military. Most of the German financial
authorities in Paris he found to be of a decidedly mediocre
type, which somewhat surprised him; he said that this was
the general French impression there also.
Auboin confirmed what I have been told by others,
that there is growing eagerness on the part of the Germans

to buy into industries in France through utilizing the
heavy balances they have been accumulating in the Bank of

France, which he said now amount to 40 milliards. Such

procedure is frightening some of the French industrialists
who are most disposed to "collaborate" with the Germans,

for now they realize that they themselves may well be
eliminated from the picture when German interests purchase

stock control in their concerns.
Auboin recited a gloomy picture of the seriousness
of unemployment in occupied France, and the practical

stagnation of industry there. Fournier, the former Bank
of France Governor, is now head of the French national

railway system. Auboin had a long talk with him, and was
told that he has only 50 percent of the former French rolling

stock of the railways. French rail car loadings are at
present working at a rate of only 10 percent of normal
on the average, if the loadings of French industry are any
gauge. He said that foodstuff arrivals at the capital are
only 5 percent of normal; textiles are somewhat higher,

435

-3 being 20 percent of normal.
END OF MESSAGE.
12

MURPHY.
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436
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

of

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 14, 1940.
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. White

Subject: Information with respect to British sales of securities.

1. To bring our information up to date (and incidentally
to explain the large discrepancy between our figures
on the value of British-held American securities and

those supplied to us) -- it would be very helpful if
ties listed by amount of specific securities, similar
to the list they left with you last year.
To enable you to keep track of the activities of the
sales of British-held securities and provide factual
basis for subsequent discussions, it would be very
helpful if each week there could be included in the
report of total sales now submitted to us by the
British:
(a) An itemized list of the specific securities sold;

we could have the present holdings of British securi2.

(b) Their amount and price;

(c) The specific day of the sale; and
(d) The
or agent through which the (no)
salebroker
was effected.

pee meeting Mibat3pm

437
Mr. Morris Wilson left this with
the Secretary at the latter's

house on Saturday, December 14, 1940.

(Copies were sent to The President,
Secretaries Hull, Stimson, Knox and

Mr. Knudsen on 12/18/40)

photogity
you
14/18/40

438

also Press

fuel

SECRET AND MOST CONFIDENTIAL

Sept. 27.

May 10.

Stocks

3.735

3.209.

Nov. 29

4.185

(Hurricane, Spitfires,
Wellington, Blenheim,
Whitley & Hampden)

N.B. Planes shipped to other theatres of
war by Britain were included in September figures, but not in November.
(These numbered 374 in period from May
to November.) Consequently improvement
between September and November is greater

than appears at first glance.
Pilots

3.101

4.149

4,398

N.B. Pilot wastage last quarter about 400 per
month, allowing for half wounded returning
to duty.

C.R.O.

(Awaiting repairs
and inspection)

1.874 1.882

439
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 14, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

Registered sterling transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

123,000
112,000

Open market sterling was quoted at 4.03-3/4 throughout the morning. Transactions of the reporting banks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
Purchased from commercial concerns

L 5,000
120,000

There was no change in quotations for the other currencies. Closing rates

were as follows:

Canadian dollar
Swiss franc
Swedish krona
Reichsmark
Lira

Argentine peso (free)

Brazilian milreis (free)
Mexican peso
Cuban peso
account.

13-1/2% discount
.2321
.2385
.4005
.0505
.2360
.0505
.2070

8-7/8% discount

We sold $12,000,000 in gold to the Bank of Mexico, to be added to its earmarked
No new gold engagements were reported to us today.

The Bombay gold price was unchanged at the equivalent of $33.83. and silver
was 1/16# higher at the equivalent of 42.96

440

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE December 14, 1940
TO

Mr. Thompson

FROM

Mr. Has

In further response to your request of December 26, 1939,
there is submitted herewith for the Division of Research and
Statistics a memorandum listing, with brief descriptions, the
studies or projects completed or under way, and the names of
persons working on each, for the month of November 1940.

441
DIVISION OF RESEARCH AND STATISTICS

Report of Studies or Projects Completed or Under
Way, and the Names of Persons Working on Each,
for the month of November 1940

For convenience of reference, the studies listed are

grouped under general subject heads.

The names shown for persons working on each project

include only those who participated fairly directly, as
explained in the introductory note to the corresponding

report submitted on December 28, 1939. No attempt has been
made to cover also persons whose responsibility in each
particular
case was mainly in planning, supervising, or consulting.
Financial Analysis

I. Projects or studies completed
1. Review of current developments in the high-grade securities markets was prepared, and a memorandum was

transmitted to the Secretary on November 27. - Mr. Haas,
Mr. Murphy, Mr. Turner, Mr. Purvis

This review contained, in addition to analysis of the
current situation, the following special study:
Analysis of allotments of cash subscriptions
to Government securities (page 4). - Mr. Turner
2. Yield rates on United States securities, direct and

guaranteed, on the basis of over-the-counter closing
quotations were calculated daily. These were summarized
each day in a table showing for each issue the closing

price and yield that day, the change in price and yield
from the preceding day, and the price range since date
of issue and also for the years 1939 and 1940 to date.
A chart for each issue was kept up to date showing recent daily price and yield figures together with comparative monthly data since 1933 or since date of issue. -

Mr. Brown, Mr. Moody, Mr. Kroll

3. At the request of the Secretary, arrangements have been
made to secure periodically from the British Purchasing
Commission certain information regarding purchases in

the United States by the British Empire. - Mr. Haas,

Mr. Lindow, Mr. March

-2-

442

(1) Weekly statements are received covering in dollar
volume the itemized purchases by British Empire
Governments through the Commission, the itemized
purchases made by these Governments with the

knowledge of the Commission but not through its
facilities, and inquiries made by the Commission
or with its knowledge for future purchases.
Similar statements are received showing, by
itemized contracts, the dollar volume of deliveries made with respect to orders placed by Great
Britain through the Commission. The details with
respect to orders and deliveries are classified
by some twenty-five commodity groups designed

especially for the purpose.
These data are reviewed and edited in the division

each week and a report is then prepared summarizing

the information on orders and deliveries, by comments: the first three summarize orders placed by
the individual governments of the British Empire
for the current week and the totals to date; the
next three statements summarize total orders of

modity groups. This report consists of eight state-

the British Empire on a historical basis; the

last two statements present data on deliveries
with respect to orders placed by Great Britain
through the British Purchasing Commission. These

weekly commodity statements were prepared on

November 7, 14, 21, and 28, covering in each case
orders placed in the second preceding week and de-

liveries during the third preceding week. Copies
of the complete reports were transmitted according
to instructions by the Secretary.

(2) The Commission also supplies the Division each week
with the data required to prepare statements giving

the details concerning the physical volume of airplane and airplane engine orders in the United States
by the British Empire. The material for these statements is contained in a group of worksheets prepared
by the Commission, but it is necessary for the
division to consolidate and coordinate the information contained in the Commission's statements. The
finished tables show, by companies and by type of
plane or engine, the volume of orders placed and the
volume of deliveries made, (a) in the period between
June 1938 and the beginning of the war, (b) by months
beginning with September 1939, and (c) by weeks for
a current period. Other tables show the number of

443

-3planes or engines on order and the scheduled

deliveries made with respect to those orders.
Similarly, tables on options show the number
of planes or engines under option and the delivery schedules. Spare parts are now segregated from complete units and data concerning

orders, deliveries, unfilled orders, and options
for spare parts are listed in separate tables
for airplanes and for engines. Orders for secondhand planes and engines and deliveries thereon,
as well as scheduled deliveries with respect to
unfilled orders, are shown in separate tables.

Summary tables show, in one table each, the most
important information on planes and on engines,

respectively, and also present information concerning the number of planes or engines which
have actually been shipped out of the United

States, and the country of destination for both
planes and engines. These aircraft reports were
prepared as of November 2, 9, 16, and 23, and were
transmitted according to instructions by the
Secretary.

(3) Reports are prepared each week showing commitments

by the British Empire Governments for capital expenditures in the United States and for extraordinary charges designed to expedite deliveries
from United States companies. The data for these
statements are provided by the Commission but the

tables actually are prepared in the division.

During November tables showing capital commitments
as of October 26, November 2, 9, and 16, were

prepared and were transmitted according to instructions by the Secretary.

(4) Monthly statements also are prepared with respect
to certain activities of the Commission. One of
these statements shows the physical volume of

iron and steel purchases by, and deliveries to,
the British Government in the United States and is

also prepared monthly from data supplied by the
British Purchasing Commission. The regular
monthly report was not prepared this month be-

cause of a revision in the date but the new

444
-

4

report as revised is now being prepared. This
statement will show the United States mill
schedule with respect to British orders of

selected iron, steel, and alloy materials. A
similar schedule of British purchases of

ferrous metals, ferrous alloys and other metal
alloy products is also being prepared.

(5) Information supplied by the British Purchasing
Commission is now at hand for the preparation
of additional statements concerning contractual
deliveries on orders placed by the British Empire
in the United States for (a) explosives and
propellants, (b) toluol, (c) shells and bombs,
(d) small arms ammunition, (e) ordnance,
(f) automatic small arms, and (g) sub-machine

guns, revolvers, and rifles.

4. At the request of the Secretary, arrangements have
been made to secure periodically from the Netherlands
purchasing missions certain information regarding
purchases in the United States by the Dutch Government,
and Lindeteves, Inc.
Weekly statements are received covering in dollar

volume the itemized purchases by Dutch Government

purchasing missions in the United States, and the
volume of deliveries made thereon. Similar statements
are received concerning the activities of Lindeteves,
Inc., a large private commercial organization operating

in the Dutch East Indies. The details with respect
to orders and deliveries for all of these purchasing

agencies are classified by the same twenty-five commodity groups used for reporting orders placed by the

British Empire in the United States.
These data are reviewed and edited in the division
each week. Reports are then prepared summarizing
the information on orders and deliveries for (1) the

Dutch Government purchasing missions, and (2) Lindeteves,

Inc., classified by commodity groups. The first reports

on these data are now in process of preparation. These
reports summarize separately for the Dutch Government

445

-5purchasing missions and Lindeteves, Inc., orders
placed in recent weeks, deliveries made during
the same periods, and the delivery status of total
orders reported. Reports have been received from
the Dutch Government missions showing unfilled
orders as of September 28, 1940, and orders placed
during the successive weeks through November 2, and
delivery data are expected to be received within a
few days. Reports have been received from Lindeteves,
Inc., showing unfilled orders as of October 19, and
orders and deliveries weekly thereafter through
November 23. - Mr. Lindow

5.

At the request of the Secretary on May 23, arrangements were made for securing weekly until September 11,

and after that fortnightly, from more than forty airolane

and airplane engine manufacturers data on deliveries,
new orders, unfilled orders, and estimated deliveries

by months on the unfilled orders. Analytical tables

are prepared every other week showing this information
by type of plane or engine and by class of purchaser.
Reports for the fortnights ended November 9 and 23,
were prepared on November 13 and 27, and were trans-

6.

mitted according to instructions by the Secretary. Mr. Haas, Mr. Tickton, Mr. D. J. Leahy
At the request of Under Secretary Bell, various memoranda and charts were prepared for use in the Friday
discussion group, considering matters of general interest in connection with defense financing. - Mr. Haas,
Mr. Murphy, Mr. Daggit, Mr. Turner
The material presented during the month included the
following:
(1) An analysis was made of recent price movements of
commodities, illustrated by two wall charts: the
first showing the movements of an index of 16
raw industrial materials and of an index of 12

foodstuffs since August 1939; and the second showing the movements of the NICB coost-of-living index
compared with the BLS index of 863 commodities
since 1935, and the BLS index of 28 basic commodities compared with the BLS index of 863 commodities

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-6since August 1939. (Charts presented at the

meeting on November 22). - Mr. Daggit, Mrs.May
(2) An analysis was made of recent price movements

of basic commodities illustrated by the wall
chartsdescribed in item (1) above, but brought
up to date for the week, and by a wall chart
showing zinc prices, production, deliveries, and
stocks at smelters, monthly from 1935 to date.

(Charts presented at the meeting of November 29) Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May

(3)

"J. M. Keynes' Plan to Pay for the War" an analysis,

based on an earlier review of the book. "How to Pay
for the War", was presented which considered the
general problem of war or defense production, the
Keynes' plan, its possible applicability to the
United States, and similar plans advanced in the
United States. (Outline at meeting of November 29)
Mr. Turner, Mr. Murphy

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7. At the request of Under Secretary Bell on October 9,
a memorandum was prepared on the increase of money in
circulation in the United States, and was transmitted
to him on November 6. - Mr. Murphy, Mr. Turner

8. At the request of Under Secretary Bell on October 11,

a memorandum was prepared on suggested changes in the

laws affecting the public debt, and was transmitted to

him on November 15. - Mr. Murphy, Mr. Conrad

9. At the request of Under Secretary Bell on ovember 6,
a memorandum was prepared on maturities of long-term

State and municipal debt during 1941, and was transmitted to him on the same date. - Mr. Murphy
10. In response to a request by Mr. Foley on November 4,
a proposed letter to the Secretary of the Navy relating
to the review of the indebtedness compromise offer of the
Erie Forge and Steel Company, was received and returned

to Mr. Foley on November 4. - Mr. Haas, Mr. Conrad, Mr. Murphy

11. A review of a report by the Bureau of Accounts on S. 4269

(to extend the Social Security Act), at the request of

Senator Harrison, Chairman of the Finance Committee, was
made in response to a request by the Bureau of Accounts
on September 10, and was transmitted to Mr. Gerardi on
November 6. - Mr. Murphy, Mr. Reagh, Miss Michener,
Mr. Brown

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II. Projects or studies under way
1. Comparison of yields of long-term Treasury bonds and
over-the-counter volume. This project is temporarily
in abeyance. - Miss Eyre

2. Study of the relationship between the yields and
maturities of high-grade securities immediately preceding major bear markets in such securities. - Mr. Turner

3. Comparison of relative amplitude of price fluctuations
of long-term and short-term securities. - Mr. Lindow,
Mr. Conrad

4. Study of the effect of the maturity, call period, coupon,
premium, and size of the issue on the prices and yields
of U. S. securities. - Mr. Conrad
5. Memorandum comparing and contrasting war and depression

deficit-financing. - Mr. Murphy

6. Review of war-financing measures in belligerent countries
in the present war. - Mr. Murphy, Mr. Purvis, Mr. Stringham
7. United States Savings Bonds. - An analysis of factors
affecting sales and redemptions of United States savings
bonds, as a guide to future experience. - Mr. Conrad
8.

At the request of the Division of Statistical Standards,
Bureau of the Budget, on September 20, a review is being
made of the "Base Book of Financial Statistics", to be

issued by the Federal banking authorities. - Mr. Murphy

9. At the request of Under Secretary Bell on October 14, a
memorandum is being prepared on a memorandum submitted
by Mr. John Evans, President of the First National Bank

of Denver, Colorado, in reference to United States Govern-

ment bonds now owned by the Federal Reserve System and

its member banks, and suggestions concerning a refunding
and change in form which would appear to be in interest
of the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve System,
the member banks, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation,
and the public generally whose money 18 deposited in member
banks. - Mr. Murphy

10. At the request of Under Secretary Bell replies are being

prepared to certain questions asked by the Wagner Committee

preparatory to its investigation of banking and monetary
conditions pursuant to Senate Resolution 125. - Mr. Haas,
Mr. Murphy, Mr. Turner, Mr. Conrad, Mr. Purvis

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11. At the request of Under Secretary Bell on November 12,
a study is being made of the relationship between the
amount of currency in circulation and the volume of
bank deposits. - Mr. Murphy
Revenue Estimates

I. Projects or studies completed
1. The regular monthly statement was prepared for the
Bureau of Accounts, showing the latest revised esti-

mates of receipts, by months and by principal sources
of revenue, for the period November-June 1941, and was
transmitted on November 4. - Mr. Wilson, Mr. Delcher

2. The regular monthly summary comparison of estimated receipts and actual receipts in October 1940 on the
dailyDelcher
Treasury statement basis, was prepared. - Mr. Wilson,
Mr.

3. The regular monthly detailed comparison of estimated
and actual receipts in October 1940, and for the
period July-October 1940, based on the collections
classification, was prepared. - Mr. Wilson.
4. An estimate was completed for use in preparation of a
section of the Secretary's Annual Report of miscellaneous
internal revenue except from capital stock, estate, and

gift taxes, in the calendar year 1941, if the taxes in
existence as of July 1, 1928 were in effect. -

Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May, Mr. Chevraux, Mr. Smith

5. At the request of the Division of Tax Research on
November 25, a revenue estimate was prepared for
Assistant Secretary Sullivan of the increase in re-

ceipts in the calendar year 1941, which would be derived from a proposed schedule of increased surtax

rates to be applied to surtax net income of individuals

of $16,000 and under. The estimate was telephoned
Assistant Secretary Sullivan at Miami and a memorandum

was transmitted to Mr. Blough on November 26. - Mr. O'Donnell,

Mr. Bronfenbrenner

6. At the request of the Division of Tax Research on
November 27, the following revenue estimates were prepared for Assistant Secretary Sullivan and were transmitted in a memorandum to Mr. Blough on November 2s:
(1) net receipts for the fiscal year 1941 under the

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revenue system which existed prior to the Revenue

Acts of 1940; (2) additional revenue in the fiscal
year 1941 attributable to the Revenue Act of 1940
and the portion earmarked under Title II of the

Revenue Act of 1940; (3) additional revenue in the

fiscal year 1941 from the Second Revenue Act of 1940;

(4) for the fiscal year 1942, preliminary and tentative estimate of net receipts to general and special

accounts, and the portion earmarked under Title II;

(5) the yield of sales tax imposed on articles
costing over one dollar; and (6) the increased

revenue for the fiscal year 1942 which would be obtained by lowering the exemptions under the admissions
tax from 20 cents to 10 cents. - Mr. O'Donnell, Mr. Leahey,
Mr. Wilson, Mr. Bronfenbrenner, Mr. Smith

7. At the request of Mr. Blough on November 28, the following revenue estimates at the fiscal year 1942 forecast
levels of business activity, were prepared for Assistant
Secretary Sullivan and transmitted in a memorandum to
Mr. Blough on November 29: the yield to be derived

from raising the tax on brandy from $2.75 to $3.75 a

gallon, and from raising the tax on other distilled
spirits from $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon; the yield to be
derived from raising the tax on fermented malt liquors
from $6.00 to $7.00 a barrel; the yield from an add1tional floor stocks tax of $1.00 a barrel on distilled
spirits and fermented malt liquors; and the yield from
an increase in the tax rate to the "next even amount" an increase of 16 2/3 percent, - on wines, cordials,

8.

and liqueurs. - Mr. Wilson
At the request of Mr. Blough on November 29, an estimate
was prepared for Assistant Secretary Sullivan, and was
transmitted to Mr. Blough in a memorandum on that date,

of the effect of making future issues of securities

of the Federal Government and its corporations and
agencies issuing obligations guaranteed by the United
States fully subject to Federal income taxes, while
State and local governments will continue to issue
securities which are fully exempt from Federal income
taxes. - Mr. Leahey

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9. At the request of Mr. Blough on November 29, a revenue
estimate was prepared for Assistant Secretary Sullivan,
and was transmitted to Mr. Blough on that date, for
each of the next five years of the effect of making
future issues of the Federal Government and its corporations and agencies issuing obligations guaranteed
by the United States fully subject to Federal income
taxes, while State and local governments will continue
to issue securities fully exempt from Federal income
taxes, on the assumption that the Federal debt held by

the public will increase $5 billions in each of the
next five years. - Mr. Leahey
10. As one of a series of projects for revising and improving
methods of estimating revenues, a new study was completed
of the tax on domestic distilled spirits. - Mr. Smith
II. Projects or studies under way
1. Tentative plans for a WPA statistical project in connection with work on the excess-profits tax, as well
as material proposed to be obtained from the Securities
and Exchange Commission, are being reviewed in accord-

ance with requests by the Division of Tax Research on
July 12 and 17. - Mr. T. F. Leahey
2.

At the request of the Division of Tax Research on
July 12, an estimate is being made of the additional

revenue which would be derived if mutual insurance
companies other than life insurance companies taxable
under Section 207 of the Internal Revenue Code were
made taxable in the same manner as stock insurance
companies other than life insurance companies taxable
under Section 204, and at the same time the exemption
under Section 101 (11) were restricted to local mutual
companies of the assessment type. - Mr. T. F. Leahey
3. The usual detailed estimates of Federal revenues by
sources are being prepared for use in the Budget of the
United States Government for the fiscal years 1941 and
1942. - Mr. Haas, Mr. O'Donnell, Mr. Daggit, Mr. Leahey,
Mrs. May, Mr. Chevraux, Mr. Wilson, Mr. T. L. Smith,
Mr. Bronfenbrenner, Mr. R. R. Smith, Miss Hagedorn
4.

An estimate for use in the preparation of the Secretary's

Annual Report is being made of Federal revenues by sources,

assuming two specified levels of national income. Mr. Haas, Mr. O'Donnell, Mr. Daggit, Mr. Leahey, Mrs. May,
Mr. Wilson, Mr. T. L. Smith, Mr. Bronfenbrenner, Mr. R.R.Smith

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Economic Conditions Related to Fiscal
and Revenue Matters

I. Projects or studies completed
1. Memoranda on the business and price situation were
prepared and were transmitted to the Secretary on
November 6, 12, 19, and 27. - Mr. Haas, Mr. Daggi t,
Mrs. May, Mr. Chevraux, Mr. Smith

These memoranda contained in addition to analysis of

the current situation the following special studies:
(1) Spot prices of wool tops, weekly and monthly,

and future prices, daily, in New York. (Chart
in memorandum of November 6). - Mrs. May

(2) A forecast of possible freight car surplus in

1941. (In memorandum of November 6. Also described

below, under Economic Conditions, section I, as

item ii). - Mr. Daggit, Mr. Chevraux

(3) A comparison of an index of new orders in the lumber
industry and the New York Times index of lumber

production, from 1937 to date, weekly. (Chart in
memorandum of November 12. Also described below.

under Economic Conditions, section I, as item 12)
Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May

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(4) Prices of lumber and other building materials, and
lumber stocks, from 1937 to date, monthly. (Chart

in memorandum of November 12). Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May

2. Memoranda on employment under the Work Projects Administration were prepared on November 18 and 25. - Miss Hagedorn

3. At the request of the Secretary, a table is prepared
each week summarizing exports of petroleum products,
scrap iron, and scrap steel, from the United States to
Japan, the U.S.S.R., Spain, and Great Britain, as in-

dicated by departure permits reported daily by the
Office of Merchant Ship Control. The tables were prepared
for the weeks ending November 2, 9, 16, and 23. On
November 4, 12, 18, and 25, the original and 13 photostats were transmitted to Assistant Secretary Gaston. In
addition, each week two photostats were transmitted to
Mr. Young, one of which was for Mr. Purvis. - Mr. Tickton,
Mr. D. J. Leahy

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4. Compilations were made of daily quotations on selected
commodities and daily and weekly figures on selected
business indices, foreign and domestic security trans-

actions, security prices, exchange rates, etc. as
well as other data for the Secretary chart book. -

Mr. Chevraux

5. A forecast was made of the following basic business
series for the calendar years 1940 and 1941 and for the
fiscal years 1941 and 1942, for use in estimating
Federal revenues in connection with the President's

Budget Message: FRB index of industrial production, new
and old bases; BLS index of wholesale prices; our index

of the value of industrial production; BLS index of
factory payrolls; Department of Commerce series on

salaries and wages; Standard Statistics index of 419
stock prices; Federal Reserve series on bank debits
outside New York City; and New York Times series on

volume of stock transfers. - Mr. Haas, Mr.Daggit,

Mrs. May, Miss Hagedorn

6. A forecast was made of the basic business series listed
in item (5) above, assuming two specified levels of
national income. - Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May, Miss Hagedorn

7. A study was made of suitable values for the FRB index
of industrial production and the BLS index of wholesale
prices for selected levels of national income. The results were used in connection with item (6) above. Mr. Daggit

S. At the request of Under Secretary Bell on November 27,
a memorandum was prepared and was transmitted to him

on that date, containing a plan of procedure for detecting bottlenecks in industrial production, by use
of surveys, by observing lengths of delivery periods,
and by following the movements of prices. - Mr. Haas,

Mr. Daggit

9. In connection with the request of Under Secretary Bell
(item 8 above), a study was made of average delivery
periods for five selected types of steel products reported in "Iron Age and "Steel" magazines, to determine
the amount of delay required before delivery could be
promised and the changes in the period of delay from

week to week between September and November 1940. A

table on average delivery periods on steel bars ac-

companied the memorandum described in item (8) above. -

Mr. Daggit, Miss Spiegel

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Bell (item 8 above), a chart was prepared showing
reported new orders and shipments, and indicated
unfilled orders of the United States Steel Corporation, and accompanied the memorandum described in

item (8) above. - Mrs. May, Mr. Smith, Miss Hagedorn

11. A study was made of possible freight car surplus in
1941 based on past relationship to (1) freight carried
one mile, and (2) freight cars owned by the railroads.
A method was devised for estimating freight carried
one mile by means of its past relationship to the FRB
index of industrial production. - Mr. Daggit,
Mr. Chevraux
12. A project was completed during the month which was de-

signed to obtain current figures of new orders in the
lumber industry for appraising the outlook for lumber
production. The series of new orders reported by the

National Lumber Manufacturers' Association hns been
placed on a seasonally-adjusted basis and expressed in
a form suitable for comparison with the New York Times

index of lumber production. - Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May

II. Projects or studies under way

1. Index of unfilled orders.
An attempt is being made to improve our information on
the volume of unfilled orders by working out a composite

index based on data from individual industries. -

Mr. Daggit

2. Forces determining trends of basic commodity prices.

This project involves a study of (1) the forces de-

termining general commodity prices and (2) the forces
determining the prices of individual commodities.

With respect to (1), general commodity prices, an
analysis is in process of disparities between demand
and production as a basic price factor which, under
excessive war demand, might lead to inflation. For use
in this analysis two indexes of demand are being constructed: An index of export demand which expresses
the exports of manufactured goods in physical volume,
and the index of consumer buying in terms of physical
volume, which is part of the project on measures of
consumer buying listed as item 3 below.

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With respect to (2), prices of individual commodities,
shipments of a given commodity, or deliveries to con-

sumers, are taken as a measure of demand, to be compared with production. Ten basic commodities have been

selected tentatively for study, and this work is in

process. - Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May, Mr. Smith, Miss Hagedorn
3. Measures of consumer buying.

A project is under way with the object of developing
(1) an index to measure the buying power of consumers
in terms of physical volume of purchases, after correcting for the effect of changes in price on the apparent demand; and (2) an index to measure changes
in total consumer expenditures, in dollar volume.
These two indices will supplement our present "index
of sales", which is designed to measure the "offtake"

of manufactured goods into various consumption channels.
Studies on a monthly basis have been nearly completed
on individual components of two physical volume in-

dexes of consumer buying, one corrected for the effect
of price changes, and the other corrected both for the
effect of price changes and for the effect of changes

in national income. The weighting of the individual

components remains to be done. In addition, with
respect to the index of consumer expenditures in dollar

volume, substantial progress has been made in develop-

ing individual series, in determining their suitability

for inclusion and the necessary adjustments. The purpose is to cover as large as possible a proportion of
the purchases of ultimate consumers. - Mr.. Daggit,

Mrs. May, Mr. Smith
4.

Trends of individual commodity prices and price factors

during the World War period.

This project is patterned after the general study of
prices and price factors, 1913 to 1922, made in
October 1939, but deals with six individual basic
commodities - wheat, cotton, hogs, steel, copper, and
zinc. The project 18 designed to determine the principal
price factors associated with the wartime rise and subsequent collapse of prices of these commodities. -

Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May

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Index of commodity stocks.

This project is designed to develop a composite index

of basic commodity stocks as a measure of one important

factor in the general price level. Stocks of sixteen
important industrial materials, expressed in terms of
their net effect on prices, are being compiled for this
index. - Mrs. May

6. Index of goods inventories.
A better index of inventories of finished goods is needed
as an indication of business maladjustments, with a break-

down as between inventories of finished goods held by
manufacturers and those heild by others. An attempt to
develop such an index is under way. - Mr. Daggit
7. Index of buying on deferred payments.

A study of the volume of installment buying and consumer
credit has nearly been completed. This study is designed
eventually to provide a monthly index of the volume of
buying on deferred payments, which at times is an

important business factor. It is in abeyance at present,

pending publication of a new study by the Department of
Commerce. - Mrs. May

8. Weekly approximations of the FRB index of industrial
production.

This project is designed to develop an index of industrial
production that will indicate week by week the approximate
level of the FRB index. It will include a larger number
of weekly series than are included in any current busi-

ness indices, with weightings and seasonal adjustments
approximating those in the FRB index. - Mr. Daggit,

Mr. Smith.

9. Classifications of specified export data by Commerce
and Treasury Departments.

A study has been made to determine how to classify export
data from the Department of Commerce to conform as closely

as possible to the classification in the weekly reports

summarizing exports of petroleum products, scrap iron,
and scrap steel, from the United States to Japan, the
U.S. S.R., Spain, and Great Britain, as shown by departure

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permits granted. Monthly statistics were compiled,
on the Commerce classification developed by this
division, from January 1937 to July 1940. A memo-

randum 18 in preparation showing the Commerce series

chosen, with an explanation of divergences in the
Commerce and Treasury series. - Mr. Daggit, Mrs. May
Actuarial Problems

I. Projects or studies completed
1. Board of Actuaries of the Civil Service Retirement
and Disability Fund.

2.

In response to a request from Mr. G. B. Buck, a
letter was prepared and mailed on November 7, commenting on a proposed program of work for the Board for
the fiscal year 1942. - Mr. Reagh
Civil Service Retirement System.
At the request of Under Secretary Bell, a memorandum
was prepared and transmitted to him on November 1,

making certain recommendations relating to the Civil
Service Retirement System. - Mr. Reagh

3. Deferred Income Bonds.
At the request of Under Secretary Bell on November 8,
a memorandum was prepared and transmitted to him on

November 12, on a suggested form of United States deferred
income bonds, which would provide a fixed return during a

specified number of years as a deferred annuity certain,
and with an optional provision which would continue the

income for life after the expiration of the certain
period, the bond with the life income guaranteed to be
sold at a higher price, the amount of difference being
dependent upon the purchaser's age. - Mr. Reagh

4. Retirement System for Haitian Government employees.
The State Department requested assistance in devising
a retirement system for employees of the Haitian
Fiscal Service. Cooperation was promised the Fiscal

Representative of Haiti in preparation of cost estimates
on the basis of data submitted. The project has been discontinued unless and until further information is received
from the State Department. - Mr. Reagh

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5. Report of the Civil Service Assembly of the United

States and Canada on The Retirement of Government
II

Employees.

A first draft of the chapter on "Financing the Plan"
has been in process of preparation. Work on this

project has been suspended because the Committee has

been disbanded temporarily. - Mr. Reagh

6. Review of Memorandum on Pension Trust Plan VS. Group
Annuity Plan.

At the request of the Division of Tax Research on

October 29, a review was made of a memorandum sub-

mitted by Mr. B. E. Wyatt, University of Michigan,
entitled "The Inequitable Tax Provisions of the Pension
Trust Plan in Comparison with the Group Annuity Plan",

and was transmitted in a memorandum to Mr. Blough on
November 6. - Mr. Reagh, Mr. Brown

II. Projects or studies under way
1. Board of Actuaries of the Civil Service Retirement and
Disability Fund.

There is pending before the Board of Actuaries the

matter of approving regulations with respect to the
optional benefits payable under the Civil Service
Retirement Act. The Comptroller General has decided
that a cash refund of voluntary contributions would not
be permissible under the Act. On the basis of this decision and other information the Board of Actuaries is
now deciding whether to approve the regulations. -

Mr. Reagh
2.

Board of Actuaries of the Civil Service Retirement
and Disability Fund.

The Board of Actuaries is laying out detailed plans for
tabulating and processing data for use in preparing the
regular five-year valuation of the Civil Service Retirement Fund for the purpose of determining the liabilities

of the Government under the Civil Service Retirement law.
Under the law, such a valuation must be prepared as of
July 1, 1940. - Mr. Reagh, Mr. Brown

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of Trustees of the Federal Old-Age and Survivors
Insurance Trust Fund.

In cooperation with the members of the staff of the
Social Security Board, there is being prepared a draft
for the first annual report of the Board of Trustees. -

Mr. Reagh, Mr. Murphy, Mr. Brown
4.

Actuarial valuation of the Foreign Service Retirement
and Disability Fund.
The Foreign Service Retirement law, as approved April 24,
1939, Section 26(m), provides that the "Treasury Department shall prepare the estimates of the annual appropriations required to be made to the Foreign Service Retirement and Disability Fund and shall make actuarial valua-

tions at intervals of five years, or oftener if deemed

necessary by the Secretary of the Treasury". An outline
of the data required for making an actuarial valuation
1.88 been submitted to the State Depa rtment. A preliminary

estimate of the appropriation required for the fiscal

year 1942 has been prepared, and has been submitted to
the State Department. - Mr. Reagh, Mr. Brown

5. Retirement System for Field Employees of the Farm Credit
Administration.
In response to a request from the Farm Credit Administration on October 10, assistance is being given in devising
a retirement system covering field employees in that
organization. Several conferences have been attended by

a member of the staff, and it 18 expected that additional
assistance will be requested. - Mr. Reagh

6. Federal Communications Commission.
The Federal Communications Commission on November 27 re-

quested additional assistance in connection with the

pension plan of the American Telephone and Telegraph
Company. In accordance therewith members of the division's
staff plan to review and make recommendations with respect

to a tentative report prepared by the Commission. -

Mr. Reagh, Mr. Brown

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Other Projects or Studies

1. Treasury Bulletin.
Data were prepared for the November issue of the

Bulletin on average yields of long-term Treasury

bonds and high-grade corporate bonds. - Miss Eyre
All the material submitted for the November issue was

reviewed and edited. Substantial revision was made in
the following tables: Summary table on budget receipts

and expenditures and public debt outstanding; Budget
receipts and expenditures; means of fina neing the

deficit; Treasury bill offerings since July 1, 1939;
and Treasury Department criminal cases in the United
States District Courts.
Additional revisions are being considered for the
December issue. - Mr. Lindow, Miss Eyre

2. Annual Report of the Secretary of the Treasury.

Articles for the text of the Annual Report for the fiscal year 1940, including the special review have been
prepared on the following subjects: Public Debt;

Obligations guaranteed by the United States; Absorption
of the direct and guaranteed public debt by classes of

holders; Bond market developments; Banking developments;

Treasury activities under the provisions of the Social
Security Act; Treasury neutrality and defense activities;
and the Administrative report for the Division. An

article on estimates of receipts is in preparation. -

Mr. Haas, Mr. Tickton, Miss Michener, Miss Westerman,
Mrs. Wolkind, Mr. Turner, Mr. Purvis, Mr. Murphy, Mr. Reagh,

Miss Ziegler, Mr. O'Donnell, Mr. Leahey, Mr. Wilson,
Mr. Bronfenbrenner, Mr. T. L. Smith
Manuscript for the Annual Report, both for the regular

features of the Report and for the special review articles, 18 being given an editorial review as received.
The usual handling of the material is going forward. -

Mr. Tickton, Miss Westerman, Mrs. Wolkind

3. Other material for publication.
At the request of Assistant Secretary Gaston on
October 18, an article is being prepared on the operations of the Treasury Department during 1940 to be incorporated in the 1941 Americana Annual. - Mr. Tickton

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4. Cumulative index of Treasury Publications.
Work has been begun on the preparation of a cumulative

subject index of Treasury publications since the establishment of the Department, covering (1) Annual Reports
of the Secretary, (2) other publications issued by the
Department, including annual reports of the byreaus and
offices in the Department, and (3) material prepared in

the Treasury Department which was published in Congressional documents, hearings before Committees of Congress,
or the Congressional Record. - Miss Westerman

5. Sources of Statistical material in Annual Report and
Bulletin.
Request was made by Mr. Henriksen, Bureau of Accounts,

on October 14, for information on the sources of
statistical material in the Annual Report of the
Secretary of the Treasury and in the Bulletin of the

Treasury Department. The material on the Annual Report
was transmitted on October 25, and the information on
the Bulletin on November 16. - Miss Michener, Mr. Lindow,
Mr. Tickton, Miss Westerman
6. Correspondence.

Replies were prepared to letters received on subjects
relating to the work of the division, and letters
drafted elsewhere and submitted to the division for that
purpose were reviewed. - Miss Michener, Miss Ziegler,
and other members of the staff in appropriate fields of
work.

During October 307 letters were received in the Division
and 296 were handled as required.

7. Charts.
Charts are prepared and continually brought up to date
for use in memoranda and in chart books on special
subjects, and corresponding photographic, photostatic,

and multilith work is carried on. This is done in the
Graphic Section under the supervision of Mr. Banyas.
A statistical report on the work of the Graphic Section

for the month of November is attached.

Work completed in the Graphic Section, Division of
Research and Statistics, during November 1940

Cree of work

For Division
of R & S

461

For

Others

Total

raphic:

New charts:

Charts brought up to date:
3 hond chart books brought up to date

All other charts brought up to date

41

15

57

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-

Total charts completed
Bond book charts completed

-

25 (times)

25 (t)

671

24

14

16

49

th

695

Viscellaneous:

Total jobs

30

Photographic:

Photographs:

Contact prints
Enlargements

Potostats:
Total jobs

83

138

115

253

115

312

427

89

90

179

127

7

Number ofNegatives

-

Total jobs

134

Number no.
929

7

Lettersize copies
All other copies

9,211

190

936

9,401

Multilith:
Total jobs

4
9
5

Number of-

Zinc plates

87

82

169

17

25

Miscellaneous:

Total jobs

B:wlt
2-3-40

8

Statistical Report
Graphic Section, Division

Work Completed by the

Research and Statistics, by months,
beginning July 1940.

:

July

:

Type of work

Aug.

Sept.

Oct.

Dec.

Nov.

Total

:

A. Graphic
New charts completed

Charts brought up to date

45

18

39

43

57

748

687

716

711

695

-

63

Bond book charts completed
Bond books brought up to date

28 (times) 27 (t)

Miscellaneous jobs completed

23

-

2

-

26 (t)

27 (t)

25 (t)

17

36

32

30

48

66

62

83

170

158

220

253

250

181

427
179

B. Photographic
Photographs:

Total jobs

53

Number ofNegatives

151

164

Contact prints
Enlargements

158

177

96

196

681

123

116

149

140

134

3,657
8,165

342

420

745

936

12,467

8,967

9,210

9,401

Photostate:

Total jobs

Number of-

Lettersize copies
All other copies

Multilith:
Total jobs

4
7

5

Number of-

Zinc plates

9

5

91

131

80

83

169

14

12

27

26

25

Miscellaneous:

Total jobs

262

LB:w1t
7-31-40

9-3-40

10-1-40

11-1-40

12-3-40

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington

Press Service

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

No. 22-89

Saturday, December 14, 1940

Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau today announced the

subscription figures and the basis of allotment for the cash offering of 3/4 percent Treasury Notes of Series B-1945, National
Defense Series,

Reports received from the Federal Reserve Banks show that

subscriptions aggregate $4,073,000,000. All subscriptions were

allotted 13 percent, on a straight percentage basis, but not less
than $100 on any one subscription.

Further details as to subscriptions and allotments will be
announced when final reports are received from the Federal Reserve
Banks.

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BRITISH EMBASSY,
WASHINGTON, D.C.

December 14th, 1940.

Personal and secret.
Dear Mr. Secretary,

I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy

of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,

Dear Mr. Secretary,

Very sincerely yours,

Uaile Butter

The Honourable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

United States Treasury,
Washington, D. C.

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Telegram received from London
dated December 12th, 1940

Naval.

1. During the night of December 8th-9th
bombardment by naval units was made on Maktila camp

and Sidi Barrani. Royal Air Force and navel aircraft

cooperated. All salvoes fell in the target area. on
December 11th and the night of December 11th/12th

bombardment of Sollum carried out. on December 12th

naval vessels actively cooperating with the army
advance forces reported estimated 30,000 prisoners

taken on Libian front.
2. Reconneissance of Bordeaux on December

11th shows 9 U-boats in wet dock. 011 refinery on the
island in the Gironde completely gutted and bomb holes

in oil tanks.
3. Aircraft attacked these U-boats on the
night of December 11th/12th - no reports yet. During
air attack on the night of December 11th/12th,
aircraft security vessel at Breat was not seen to be
hit but other bombs scored hits on important targets
on the shore.
4. Two convoys in the Thames estuary

attacked by aircraft p.m. December 11th, only 2 small
vessels alightly damaged.

5. 32 out of 50 town class destroyers have
arrived in the United Kingdom from America.

6./

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6. Royal Air Force.
Night of December 11th/12th.
No. of

Locality
Mannheim

Aircraft

Targets

Ludwigshafen)

transportation

20 heavy

Various

aerodromes

17 medium

Boulogne

harbour

2 heavy and
4 medium.

)

In addition, 6 medium bombers attacked

the harbour at Breat.
7. German Air Force.
At Birmingham many fires were reported

but all were under control by 5.30 a.m.

8. Aircraft casualties in operations over
and from the British Isles.
Enemy

By our fighters

Fighters
(by day
1 destroyed

Bombers

(by night)

1 probable
1 damaged

Totals: 1 destroyed, 1 probable, a damaged.

British. Fighters:
2 destroyed (1 pilot safe)
3 bombers destroyed.

9. Home security.

Bristol. Following situation reported
subsequent to 3 recent night bombarding attacks. Gas,

about 70 normal. Electricity, 100 domestic, about
90% of industrial supply available. Water, domestic
supply practically normal.

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Paraphrase of Code Radiogram

Received at the War Department
at 23:56, December 14, 1940

London, filed 15:40, December 14, 1940.
1. All operations of the Bomber Command on Friday, December

13, and for the proceding night were cancelled because of adverse weather
conditions. Planes of the Coastal Command sighted twelve ships in convey

off Helder, Holland, bombing one. One ship was hit north of Veeyer light (1)
and an unebserved attack was made on another off Horsay.

2. The German Air Force carried out but one daylight raid
ever the south coast of Wales on December 13, and there was limited fighter

activity. That night German air attacks were negligible, with some mine
laying and one attack on Sheffield.

3. In the Egyptian theater British planes bombed an ammition depet and mater transport and antiaircraft at Bardia, wharves and
buildings at Tobrak, and a camp and landing fields at Bomba. Aerial reemnaissances showed that the hangare at E1 Adam were gutted, that there were

large troop concentrations in the mountains in the Bardia area, and that a

few troops were moving on Tobruk. British forces are in contact with the
Italians, who appear to be carrying out a disorderly withdrawal. The British
have captured about 25,000 prisoners, which includes three general officers)
and 75. and 106-m guns have been taken. All the British people are immunely
busyed up by the successes in Egypt. They new understand clearly what

Masselial had in mind when he said that, "Nothing can stop my troope in

Africa." No forget the Atlantic.
4. British beahers in the Sudan attacked Ges Regeb and

set fires in Gubba New (9).

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5. The Greeian advance into Albania has pushed past

Pigueras (i). The Italians have transferred six divisions, totalling
about 75,000 troops, into Albania since these operations started.
6. Our consul in Liverpool has reported that 38 merchant
vessels in convey that were due on December 5 were attacked and that 14

shipe were sunk. There is an unconfirmed report that diplomatic pouches
were on board.

7. Our censul in Sheffield has telephoned that the German

attack during the night of December 13-14 started at 7:00 P.M. and lasted
for nine hours, with the enemy aircraft coming over in waves. Attacks were

consentrated on the residential and business districts. The two largest partment stores were gutted by fire. Meet of the buildings along the main
business street and many of the finest residences were damaged. The
number of casualties and the extent of damage to industry is not known.

8. Information has bocame available from official A.R.P.
records, to supplement the subled resume of General Seanlem's inspection

of Southerpten. The following tabulation shows the cumulative figures for

that city - to the dates showns
October 31, 1960

Killed
Severely Injured
Injured
High explecive bombs

December 2. 1940

100

426

206

eee

372

810

see

1,829

9. Major James 6. Taylor, Air Corps observer in this office, inspected Liverpool - December 18 and found that city substantially

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make A large number of incendiary and high explosive bomba and so
land mines had been dropped on the city. Over 5,000 houses have been

destroyed. Casualties were about 1800 dead and 4,000 injured. Lessee to

shipbuildings, deeks and shippings are minor. Transportation and utilities
are intest. There have how minor damages to fastories. Production has

dropped off temporarily, especially at night because of the lask of portation for workmen. The morale of the civil population is high and few
have laft the city. Medical supplies and hospital services are adequate
and the relief agencies are well organised.

10. During the night of December 11-12, civilian casualties
at Birmingham were 85 dead and 303 seriously injured. There was some dis-

location of rail facilities but no serious damage to utilities. There was
me important damage in London that night. Twenty-eight were killed and 19

injured. In Cheltenham nine were killed and 80 injured.
11. It is quite apparent that the German bembardment does

not aim at the destruction of the industry and the actual implements of mar, but that it intends to dislocate the life of the workman
thinking in this manner to disrupt production. It is our observation that
this policy is inconvenient and bloody but that it will have small success
against the British who are "tough babies".
LEE

Distributions
Military Aide to the President
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Asst. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff

War Plans Division

office of Naval Intelligence

AG-8

G.S, 1

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469.A

Paraphrase of Code Radiogram

Received at the War Department
at 3:55 P.M., December 14,1940

Rome, filed 18:35, December 14, 1940.
As regards Telegram No. 1156 from Department of State:

It is not expected that Germany will give Italy any direct help
of a military nature. The report of the presence of German
"troops" is probably due to the presence of Germans on their way

to Libya to study colonial police. It is possible that German
ships and perhaps two hundred transport planes may be employed.

The Italian Ministry of War thinks that the situation
in Albania has become much better during the last couple days.

The strength of the Greek offensive has run out, it is felt, and
the Italians now hope to consolidate positions sufficiently far
southward to make sure Valona is safe.

It is reported that General Milch is now in Rome.
Reports from various reliable sources assert that

Yugoslavia has offered to assist the Italians. There is no intimation what reward is asked or what the German attitude toward
such a proposal may be.

The British offensive in North Africa is expected by
Germane to stop at the frontier. After that they expect a stalemate

in this theatre of war.
FISKE

Distribution:
Military Aide to the President
Secretary of War
State Department

Secretary of Treasury
Asst. Secretary of War

Chief of Staff - 2

War Plans Division CONFIDENTIAL
Office of Naval Intelligence

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SPECIAL BULLETIN
No. 29

MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION

G-2/2657-231

Washington, December 14, 1940

WAR DEPARTMENT

NOTICE

The information contained in this series of bulletins
will be restricted to items from official sources which are
reasonably confirmed.

This document is being given an approved distribution,

and no additional copies are available in the Military Intelligence Division. For provisions governing its reproduction see Letter TAG 350.05 (9-19-40) M-B-M.

CHARACTERISTICS OF GERMAN ANTIAIRCRAFT
AND ANTITANK MATERIEL

SOURCE

The information contained in this bulletin was supplied
by an American official observer in Paris late in October, 1940.

For other information on German materiel, see TENTATIVE LESSONS
BULLETIN NO. 20, "The German Artillery."
CONTENTS

1. ANTIAIRCRAFT MATERIEL

2. ANTITANK MATERIEL

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1.

ANTIAIRCRAFT MATERIEL

a. 20-mm. Machine Gun, 30

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, -10 to 90 degrees
Weight in battery: 460 kilograms
Means of transportation: Tractor
Rate of fire: 320 rounds per minute
Projectile: Automatic explosive
Initial velocity: 845 meters per second
Maximum vertical range: 4200 meters

Weight of shell: 0.14 kilograms

Remark: Also used against tanks

b. 37-mm., Model 1918

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, 45 to 85 degrees

Weight

Means Two-wheel trailer

Rate minute
Projectile:

Initial meters
second
Maximum
meters
Weight

C. 75-mm.

Field of fire: Horizontal, degrees
of of in Krupp of velocity: fire: vertical transportation: battery: shell: Automatic 160 range: 0.625 rounds 840 1750 explosive kilograms kilograms 4800 per 360 per

Vertical, +5 to 85 degrees
Weight in battery: 2570 kilograms

Means of transportation: Tractor
Rate of fire: 20 rounds per minute
Projectile: Explosive with mechanical fuse
Initial velocity: 850 meters per second
Maximum vertical range: 11,300 meters

Weight of shell: 6.5 kilograms
Weight of explosive: 0.5 kilograms
d. 80-mm. Rheinmetall

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, -3 to 80 degrees
Weight in battery: 3800 kilograms
Means of transportation: Tractor
Rate of fire: 25 rounds per minute
Projectile: Explosive with powder fuse
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Initial velocity: 750 meters per second

Maximum vertical range: 9000 meters

Weight of shell: 8 kilograms
Weight of explosive: 0.510 kilograms
e. 88-mm, Rheinmetall

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, -10 to 70 degrees
Weight in battery: 6000 kilograms
Means of transportation: Tractor
Rate of fire: 20 rounds per minute
Projectile: Explosive with mechanical fuse
Initial velocity: 760 meters per second
Weight of shell: 9 kilograms

f. 88-mm. Krupp

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, -3 to 85 degrees
Weight in battery: 5000 kilograms
Means of transportation: Tractor
Rate of fire: 20 rounds per minute
Projectile: Explosive with mechanical fuse
Initial velocity: S40 meters per second
Maximum vertical range: 10,600 meters

Weight of shell: 14.7 kilograms
g. 105-mm, Rheinmetall

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, 0 to 70 degrees
Weight in battery: 5500 kilograms
Rate of fire: 20 rounds per minute
Projectile: Explosive with mechanical fuse
Initial velocity: 710 meters per second
Weight of shell: 17.4 kilograms
Remark: Fixed gun

h. 105-mm, Rheinmetall

Field of fire: Horizontal, 360 degrees

Vertical, -10 to 80 degrees
Weight in battery: 11,750 kilograms
Rate of fire: 20 rounds per minute
Projectile: Explosive with mechanical fuse
Initial velocity: 1000 meters per second
Maximum vertical range: 17,000 meters
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Weight of shell: 15.8 kilograms
Weight of explosive: 1.725 kilograms
1. 125-mm. Antiaircraft Gun

Means of transportation: Caterpillar tractor
Rate of fire: 15 rounds per minute
Initial velocity: 1000 meters per second
Maximum vertical range: 12,000 meters
2.

ANTITANK MATERIEL

a. 37-mm, Antitank Gun

Field of fire: Horizontal, 60 degrees

Weight in battery: 310 kilograms
Means of transportation: Horse or tractor
Rate of fire: 20 rounds per minute
Initial velocity: 800 meters per second
Perforation: At 300 neters, 45 mm.
At 750 meters, 30 mm.

Remark: Mount has mobile trail
b. 37-mm. Antitenk Gun

Field of fire: Horizontal, 60 degrees

Vertical, -3 to 25 degrees
Weight in battery: 440 kilograms
Means of transportation: Tractor

Projectile: Explosive shell with fuse in base or
with fuse in nose

Initial velocity: 825 meters

Perforation: At 400 meters, 40 mm.

At 1000 meters, 14 mm.

Weight of shell: 0.69 kilograms
Remark: Mount has mobile trail

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M.I.D., W.D.
No. 270

SITUATION REPORT

December 26, 1940.
12:00 M. 14

This military situation report is issued by the Military
Intelligence Division, General Staff. In view of the occasional
inclusion of political information and of opinion it is classified
as Restricted.

I.

Western Theater of War.

1. Air Force Operations.
Unfavorable weather prevailed.

German air activity over England was on a limited scale.
The R.A.F. on the night of December 13-14 made attacks,
which were probably very light, on Kiel, Bremen, docks and airdromes
in Holland and on the Bordeaux submarine base.

II.

Greek Theater of War.

The Greeks, after the capture of Porto Palermo, are pushing
on toward Chimara, some five miles up the coast. Elsewhere Greek
progress was insignificant.

III.

African and Mediterranean Theaters of War.

The British report that in western Egypt, the defeated Italian Army, probably 5 divisions, continues to withdraw toward the Sollum bottleneck along the coast highway, only motor road to Libya,
closely followed by British advanced troops. The Mediterranean
fleet and planes are harassing the retreat.

Patrols were active along the Sudan frontier.

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