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ATTACK BOMBERS

On hand in Continental United States:
Nos.

Type

Speed

93

A-17A

220

80

A-17

200

These are not dive bombers, but low flying attack planes

carrying 1 flexible (tail) and 4 fixed machine guns. They have a
range of 700 miles with a 600 pound bomb load of 30 or 100-pound bombs.

They are not equipped with leak-proof tanks or crew armor.
About 65 of these would have to go to air depots for about a week for
minor overhaul or to be fitted with machine guns.
BOMBS: There are sufficient 100-pound demolition and 30-pound
fragmentation bombs on hand in the United States to equip 100 planes

with 15 missions of each type. However, this would practically strip
the bomb reserves in the United States.

All bombs just renovated; none deteriorated.

and Phot young

Had Col. Joequin, at house 8.30 P.M. should

him the

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about these bounts.
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June 6. 1440. yes!
198
ATTACK BOMBERS

On hand in Continental United States:
Nos

Type

Speed

93

A-17A

220

80

A-17

200

These are not dive bombers, but low flying attack planes

carrying 1 flexible (tail) and 4 fixed machine guns. They have a
range of 700 miles with a 600 pound bomb load of 30 or 100-pound bombs.

They are not equipped with leak-proof tanks or crew armor.
About 65 of these would have to go to air depots for about a week for
minor overhaul or to be fitted with machine guns.
BOMBS: There are sufficient 100-pound demolition and 30-pound
fragmentation bombs on hand in the United States to equip 100 planes

with 15 missions of each type. However, this would practically strip
the bomb reserves in the United States.

All bombs just renovated; none deteriorated.

marshase gave these x Hugh June 1940. no:
PURSUIT PLANES AVAILABLE FOR PURSUIT PILOT TRAINING

199

PURSUIT PLANES ON HAND in Continental United States:
No.

Type

Speed

116

P-36a

30

P-36b

62

P-35
PB-2a

300 mph
320 mph
240 mph

(For 19 combat squadrons

requiring 500 planes)

37

200 mph (too dangerous for pilot training)

There are now 208 pursuit planes available to train 300 pursuit pilots, the latter

number increasing by 50 pilots every six weeks. With no prospective delivery of now
pursuit planes before October, we will then have 450 pursuit pilots in squadrons to be
trained.

Attrition and delivery delays due to engine production difficulties have been
ignored.

MONTHLY SITUATION, JULY 1, 1940 - FEBRUARY 1, 1941:

Number of planes available under assumptions indicated

with no attrition considered
and assumed P-40 deliveries - 80 Oct. 1; 80 Nov. 1; 40 Dec. 1

1st
day
of

No. of
pursuit

pilots
requiring
training

None to Allies;

146 P-36 to

25 per month to
overseas garrisons

Vultee and

Oct. 1 to Feb. 1

Allies; 122
Republic deliveries; none
to overseas
garrisons

208

(4)

(3)

(2)

(1)

68

208 P-35 and

208 P-35 and P-36

122 Vultee &
Republic del-

seas garrisons
shipped 25 each
month beginning

P-36 to Allies to Allies; overiveries; none
to overseas
garrisons

Oct. 1; 122 Vultee
and Republic

deliveries
6

July

300

Aug.

350

208

78

16

16

Sept.

350

208

90

28

28

Oct.

400

263

189

127

102

Nov.

450

318

294

232

182

Dec.

500

333

358

296

221

San.

500

308

371

309

209

322

197

Feb.

550

6

384

283

Under most favorable conditions, there will continue to be an insufficient number

of planes for tactical training of pursuit pilots; a further decrease in planes will

aggravate an already serious deficiency. The question then is to what extent we dare
limit the development of our pursuit squadrons.
DELIVERY OF AIRPLANES Sweden)
Totals
Vultee
Republic
1940 June
July
Aug.

Sept.

6

6

16

10
10

28
2

10

47

9

Oct.

13

12

72

Nov.

12

12

96

Dec.

13

941 Jan.

13

Feb.

13

109
122
135

Jane 6,1940. no
:
200

PURSUIT PLANES AVAILABLE FOR PURSUIT PILOT TRAINING

PURSUIT PLANES ON HAND in Continental United States:
No.

Type

Speed

116

P-36a
P-36b
P-35
PB-2a

300 mph
320 mph
240 mph

30

(For 19 combat squadrons

62

requiring 500 planes)

37

200 mph (too dangerous for pilot training)

There are now 208 pursuit planes available to train 300 pursuit pilots, the latter
number increasing by 50 pilots every six weeks. With no prospective delivery of new
pursuit planes before October, we will then have 450 pursuit pilots in squadrons to be
trained.

Attrition and delivery delays due to engine production difficulties have been

ignored.

MONTHLY SITUATION, JULY 1, 1940 - FEBRUARY 1, 1941:

Number of planes available under assumptions indicated

with no attrition considered
and assumed P-40 deliveries - 80 Oct. 1; 80 Nov. 1; 40 Dec. 1

1st
lay
of

No. of
pursuit

pilots
requiring
training

208 P-35 and

208 P-35 and P-36

Vultee and

122 Vultee &

seas garrisons

Republic deliveries; none

Republic deliveries; none

shipped 25 each
month beginning

None to Allies;

146 P-36 to

25 per month to
overseas garrisons

Oct. 1 to Feb. 1

(4)

(3)

(2)

(1)

Allies; 122

to overseas
garrisons

July

300

208

68

350

208

78

Aug.

Sept.

350

208

90

Oct.

400

263

Nov.

Dec.

P-36 to Allies to Allies; over-

to overseas
garrisons

Oct. 1; 122 Vultee
and Republic

deliveries
6

6

16

16

28

28

189

127

102

232

450

294

182

318

358

221

333

296

500

308

309

500

371

209

Jan.
Feb.

384

197

283

322

550

Under most favorable conditions, there will continue to be an insufficient number

of planes for tactical training of pursuit pilots; a further decrease in planes will

aggravate an already serious deficiency. The question then is to what extent we dare
limit the development of our pursuit squadrons.
DELIVERY OF AIRPLANES Seven
Republic

Vultee

Totals
6

1940 June
July
Aug.

Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.

1941 Jan.
Feb.

6

16
10
10

28
2

10
9

13
12

12
12
13
13

13

47
72

96

109
122
135

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201

on photostat young has
STATUS OF CALIBER

.30 BALL AMMUNITION

On hand

Required for PMP
Excess, before commitments
Committed for exchange

Excess, immediately available
for exchange

580,000,000
450,000,000
130,000,000
100,000,000

30,000,000

In addition we can make available 4,000,000 rounds

per month until August 1st, thereafter 10,000,000 rounds
per month until December, 1940, in exchange against
50,000,000 rounds now on order.

game 6.1940.48
202

STATUS OF CALIBER .30 BALL AMMUNITION

On hand

Required for PMP

Excess, before commitments
Committed for exchange

Excess, immediately available
for exchange

580,000,000
450,000,000
130,000,000
100,000,000
30,000,000

In addition we can make available 4,000,000 rounds
per month until August 1st, thereafter 10,000,000 rounds
per month until December, 1940, in exchange against
50,000,000 rounds now on order.

June 6.19K0.491

STATUS OF CALIBER

.30 BALL AMMUNITION

On hand

Required for PMP
Excess, before commitments
Committed for exchange

Excess, immediately available
for exchange

580,000,000
450,000,000
130,000,000
100,000,000
30,000,000

In addition we can make available 4,000,000 rounds
per month until August 1st, thereafter 10,000,000 rounds
per month until December, 1940, in exchange against
50,000,000 rounds now on order.

E

June Griftin
ATTACK BOMBERS

On hand in Continental United States:
Nos.

Type

Speed

93

A-17A

220

80

A-17

200

These are not dive bombers, but low flying attack planes

carrying 1 flexible (tail) and 4 fixed machine guns. They have a
range of 700 miles with a 600 pound bomb load of 30 or 100-pound bombs.

They are not equipped with leak-proof tanks or crew armor.
About 65 of these would have to go to air depots for about a week for
minor overhaul or to be fitted with machine guns.
BOMBS: There are sufficient 100-pound demolition and 30-pound
fragmentation bombs on hand in the United States to equip 100 planes

with 15 missions of each type. However, this would practically strip
the bomb reserves in the United States.
All bombs just renovated; none deteriorated.

Jame 1940. no:
PURSUIT PLANES AVAILABLE FOR PURSUIT PILOT TRAINING

LANES ON HAND in Continental United States:

combat squadrons

No.

Type

Speed

116

P-36a
P-36b
P-35
PB-2a

300 mph
320 mph
240 mph

30

ring 500 planes)

62
37

200 mph (too dangerous for pilot training)

here are now 208 pursuit planes available to train 300 pursuit pilots, the latter
increasing by 50 pilots every six weeks. With no prospective delivery of new
planes before October, we will then have 450 pursuit pilots in squadrons to be

ttrition and delivery delays due to engine production difficulties have been
SITUATION, JULY 1, 1940 - FEBRUARY 1, 1941:

Number of planes available under assumptions indicated

with no attrition considered
and assumed P-40 deliveries - 80 Oct. 1; 80 Nov. 1; 40 Dec. 1
(1)

1st

No. of

day pursuit

of pilots

(2)

None to Allies;

146 P-36 to

25 per month to
overseas garrisons

Allies; 122

Oct. 1 to Feb. 1

requiring
training

(3)

(4)

208 P-35 and

208 P-35 and P-36

Vultee and

122 Vultee &

Republic deliveries; none

Republic deliveries; none

seas garrisons

to overseas
garrisons

P-36 to Allies to Allies; over-

to overseas
garrisons

shipped 25 each
month beginning

Oct. 1; 122 Vultee
and Republic

deliveries

300

208

68

350

208

78

350

208

90

28

28

400

263

189

127

102

450

318

294

232

182

500

333

358

296

221

500

308

371

309

209

550

283

384

322

197

6

6

16

16

der most favorable conditions, there will continue to be an insufficient number

for tactical training of pursuit pilots; a further decrease in planes will

an already serious deficiency. The question then is to what extent we dare
development of our pursuit squadrons.

DELIVERY OF AIRPLANES

Republic

Vultee

Sweden,
Totals
6

6

16

10
10

2

28

10

47

13

12

72

12

12

96

13

109

13

122

13

135

9

ICE

206
JUN 6 1940

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

The British Government, fearing that Germany may inspire litigation
in this country for the purpose of tying up British Government funds here,

is anxious that British Government funds held at the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York be held in the name of the British Government rather than in
the name of the Bank of England. The British Government has been advised
by American lawyers that through such procedure the possibility of British
Government funds being tied up is reduced, because of the imaunity from
suit enjoyed by a foreign government's property.

The Dutch Government has also requested that certain of the accounts
held by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in the name of the central
bank of the Netherlands be transferred into the name of the Netherlands
Government.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has some doubts as to its

ability to hold accounts for foreign governments unless it is authorised
to do so by the Secretary of the Treasury. It is my opinion that by
virtue of the provisions of Section 5 (b) of the Trading with the Enemy
Act, as amended, the statutory provisions relative to the appointment
of Federal Reserve banks as fiscal agents, and the stabilisation provisions in the Gold Reserve Act, the President and the Secretary of the
Treasury have the power to authorise the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

to hold accounts for foreign governments. As you know, it is in the
interests of this Government that there be maintained at the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York, as distinguished from-other commercial banks,
accounts of certain foreign governments which are used in connection

with the purchase of war materials.

Accordingly, if you approve, I propose to send the annexed letter
to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York authorising the Bank to open
such accounts for the British and Dutch Governments. If you approve

the foregoing, kindly indicate at the foot hereof.
(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.
APPROVED:

By Messenge*

415

File to Mr. Thompson

207

Dear Sizes

Enclosed is a received from the Financial Comseller
of the British Babasay on May 27, 1940, in which the British
Government asks that its accounts with the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York standing in the name of the Bank of England be can-

verted into accounts with the title is each case of His Britennie
Majesty's Government's Account".

You have also advised this Department that the Netherlands

Government in London has asked that certain of its accounts in the
name of Do Hederlandsche Bank be transferred to accounts in the
name of the Reyal Netherlands Government.

The Treasury Department would be pleased to have the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York, as fiscal agent of the United States, open
and mistain the account requested by the British and Netherlands
Governments on the same basis that the Federal Reserve Bank handles

other foreign accounts, and accordingly requests and authorises the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York to do so.

Very truly yours,

Secretary of the treasury.
Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
New York, New York.
Enclosure

BBildh 6-6-40

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 6, 1940.
MEMORANDUM FOR

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

I am delighted to have that

list of surplus ma teriel which is

"ready to roll". Give it an extra
push every morning and every night

until it is on board ship!
F. D. R.

209
June 6, 1940.
3:30 p.m.
RE ALLIED PURCHASES

Present:

Mr. Nelson
Mr. Young

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

I asked him if he knew you and he wasn't
sure, Governor Lehman. He just dropped
in for a minute. I thought this was
rather nice from the President.

"I am delighted to have a list of surplus
materiel which is ready to roll. Give us
an extra push every morning and every

Nelson:

night until it is on board ship."
Isn't that all right?
That is all right.

Klotz:

Isn't that cute? That is what you have

H.M.Jr:

been saying all along, "Push 'em."

I am just trying to do my business.
Curtiss-Wright Corporation,6-5-40
to the
Secretary from Mr. Young.

"The British have exercised an option
dated May 31st, 1940, for fourteen
hundred fifty propellers (three different
models), including ten percent spare parts.
This contract has a total value of seven

million four hundred fifty-six thousand
dollars with delivery scheduled from

September 30, 1941, through December 31st,

1941.

"The French exercised an option dated
May 31st, 1940, for one thousand eight
hundred ninety propellers (two models).

Total value of the contract amounts to
eight million two hundred forty thousand
dollars with delivery to be made some time
during 1941 (exact schedule not yet available).

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-2"The total value of these contracts amounting to fifteen million six hundred ninetysix thousand dollars includes one million
dollars of development costs heretofore
incurred by United States Government.

"In addition to this total value, two

million eighty thousand dollars has been
contracted for extension of plant capacity,
two hundred forty-five thousand dollars
for personnel training and overtime, and
three hundred thirty-six thousand dollars
for income taxes.

"The total value of these contracts plus
capital assistance items amounts to
approximately eighteen million three hundred
fifty-seven thousand dollars.
"North American aviation:
"On May 28, 1940, the French contracted

for four hundred fifty NA-76 trainer airplanes and five hundred fifty Pratt &
Whitney 1340 S-3H1 engines. Delivery of
this order to start August, 1941, and to

be completed in June, 1942, (for the airframes) and August 1942 (for the engines).
Total value of the contract amounts to
sixteen million three hundred eighty-six
thousand dollars; no capital commitment
involved."

well, they oughtn't to buy any of those
five hundred Pratt & Whitneys. I told
them not to. What size are they?
Young:

H.M.Jr:

1340 engines? I don't know.

I told them not to. I told them anything

under a thousand horse-power, to give it

to some other person. I noticed the other

day they did that on something else.
Young:

That is characteristic of them.

H.M.Jr:

Will you bring that to their attention,

Phil? I told them nothing under a thousand.
Anything over a thousand, yes, but anything
under a thousand, somewhere else.

-3Nelson:

That sounds smart.

H.M.Jr:

I thought so and I have told them that
steadily. Another one got by me the other

day. Tell them this is not keeping faith.
Young:

Well, they probably figured that as long
as they had an option that might let them

H.M.Jr:

out of it.
Well, bring it to their attention. Will

Young:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Thompson machine guns, 45 calibre in the

you let me have an answer on that?

Navy.

Boiling this all down, what can they do

on this?
Young:

They can't get Navy machine guns unless

H.M.Jr:

Are you sure of that?

Young:

So far.

H.M.Jr:
Young:

the new legislation goes through.

Have you spoken to Mr. Foley?
Yes. Oscar Cox has been working on it

steadily. You see, the Navy wouldn't let
them go unless they get the money.

H.M.Jr:

What do you mean?

Young:

You can have them changed between two

Government departments if there is reimbursement.

H.M.Jr:

(The Secretary held an unrecorded telephone conversation with Mr. Foley.)
That is the advantage of having a General

Nelson:

That is right.

Counsel.

211

-4H.M.Jr:

Now, what do I do with this? This is the

only copy.

Young:

You can give it back to me.

H.M.Jr:

Then what do we do about it?

Klotz:

Well, we have a system.

Young:

I will get it photostated.

Klotz:

We have a system.

H.M.Jr:

That is the purpose of these meetings.

I want all of that clear, not just the

machine guns, the whole works. Don't

you think they ought to have that for

Nelson:

this meeting?
We will take the memorandum for this meet-

H.M.Jr:

Think we can trust them?

Klotz:

I think so.
In connection with that, they list these

Young:

ing and give it back to you.

other guns on the bottom. There are
some Lewis machine guns.

Nelson:

No, I sent this in to you. This was sent
to you first. This is the same copy. We
will send it back to you.

H.M.Jr:

Make a note we get it back in the morning.

Klotz:

Don't forget Mead.

Young:

I called them back on the other guns,

H.M.Jr:

Army sold to them and the prices are twenty
dollars higher.
That is your Coordinating Committee on
Purchases. That goes to the Army and Navy
when they sell us.

Nelson:

That is right. We will coordinate it.

be cause they looked like the same guns the

212

213

-5H.M.Jr:

"With respect to the request of the
Anglo-French Purchasing Board for an additional two hundred fifty million rounds
of .30 calibre cartridges, Colonel Burns
informed me that thirty million rounds
could be released immediately. In addition, the War Department will make further
releases of .30 calibre ammunition, now on
hand, if it receives no ammunition for
replacement. Release of this ammunition

will be as follows:
June

4 million rounds

July

4

"

"

"
"

"

10

"

10

"

November
December

"

10

"

10

October

"

10

"

August
September

"This ammunition will be released at a price

of thirty dollars per M.

"The foregoing information was communicated

to Mr. Purvis this morning, who stated that
the Anglo-French Purchasing Board would be
glad to buy this ammunition. "
I have a covering memorandum which I v1 11

come to. I had a half hour this morning

with General Marshall.
Nelson:

We aren't doing very well by them with only
thirty million. They wanted two hundred
fifty. That renders those guns practically
useless if they haven't got .30 calibre
ammunition. We will have to do something
on that.

H.M.Jr:

Nelson:

Couldn't you look into the situation of the
What is the situation in the United States?

manufacture of the .30 calibre ammunition?
I have made a note on that for Mr. Young

and I to go after it and see what we can

do, because they wanted the guns and you
can see the guns would be no good to them
without the ammunition.

-6H.M.Jr:

All right. That is the kind of service

Nelson:

This is the same information.

H.M.Jr:

Now, where is the ammunition thing on the
first? Now, they have discovered 93 A-17-

we give around here.

A's. I don't know what they are.

Young:

Those are Northrups.

H.M.Jr:

And we can get them?

Young:

Right away.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. This is General Marshall. He said

Nelson:

They made a request for that yesterday.

H.M.Jr:

Who did?

Nelson:

The Commission.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we can have these.

Klotz:

Were these given to you by General Marshall?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, this morning, all three.

Young:

Okay.

H.M.Jr:

He says these are not dive bombers, they

I could have 93 A-17-A's and 80 A-17s.

are low flying attack planes. Anyway,
they can have them.

Young:

As you please.

H.M.Jr:

He said it came down to us through Colonel
Burns.

Now, the last thing here gives this explanation why we cannot have these Swedish
things. I agree with General Marshall
that this thing of the Republic and Vultees
is out and after you read that long

technical memorandum you will see why. It

214

215

-7 just completely shoots the whole training
program to Hell and gone. You can read it
afterwards, will you?
Nelson:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Out of this thing, we do get one hundred
seventy-three planes, which is something.

Nelson:

That is something.

H.M.Jr:

Just to keep the record straight, make a
note to tell this to Foley, Mr. Summer

Welles is not satisfied -- he is satisfied
w1 th General Marshall that we can't give

the planes up, he is satisfied on that,

but he personally will call up the Solicitor-

General and get the legislation through

making it possible for us to take the planes
away from the Swedes. I told General
Marshall this, I said, "Look, General, here
is the Kingdon of Sweden that is at peace.

We go to work and take away a hundred and

fifty or two hundred planes from them because
they are at peace and give them to a

belligerent. I don't think it smells so good."
Nelson:

Except on this basis, it would seem to me,
Mr. Secretary, and this is getting in the
State Department's province, if Sweden today
is literally under the dominance of Germany
and Germany could go in there any moment,

anything you delivered to them could go
into the hands of the Germans.

H.M.Jr:

Well, anyway we have got something.

Nelson:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:
Young:

Now -- Nelson you are doing pretty well.
You got fifty yesterday.
Have you told Purvis about it?

H.M.Jr:

No.

Young:

Am I supposed to?

216

-8H.M.Jr:

I think I would tell him tomorrow, because
Marshall has to tell a couple of generals
and by the time it gets down to Burns -I would tell him tomorrow.
Now, this Canadian Empire training program.

We can't do what is in this first para-

graph, with this big training program coming along.

Nelson:

We will be subjected to a great deal of
criticism.

H.M.Jr:

We can't do this. Have you seen this
memorandum?

Nelson:

No, sir, I haven't.

H.M.Jr:

Well, they are asking for five hundred
Harvard trainers and for us to give them
priority over ours. I don't see how we
can do that, do you, Phil?
we can't possibly.
Now, "In addition, in order to meet the

Young:

H.M.Jr:

engine requirements for the planes which

will now have to be partly built in

Canada, Mr. Howe has negotiated (subject

to U. S. administration approval) a con-

tract with the Jacobs Company for
delivery of two thousand engines (three

hundred thirty horse-power) prior to the
end of December, 1941 (three hundred
twelve will be delivered by end of
December, 1940). While this far from
meets the Canadian Government's requirements as regards deliveries, nevertheless there was no better alternative

offered. At the request of the U. S.

administration, this order has been held
up during the last week or ten days in
view of the desire to visualize the whole
airplane engine situation."
What about that?

-9Nelson:

Didn't you tell us yesterday that they

didn't want Jacobs engines? We sent
them yesterday to see Mr. Mead about
these Jacobs engines.

H.M.Jr:

And I spoke to Knudsen about it this
morning. I asked Knudsen to give me an
answer on that by tonight.

Young:

He isn't going to do it.

Nelson:

He was supposed to call a meeting this

H.M.Jr:

Would you ride Knudsen on it?

Nelson:

I will. I will be right after him.

H.M.Jr:

On the two thousand Jacobs and three
hundred thirty horse-power.

Young:

They arranged for the Jacobs people to

H.M.Jr:

Have you got a copy of this?

Young:

No, I haven't seen it. Where did it

afternoon.

come in tomorrow morning.

come from?

H.M.Jr:

It came to me. I called up Purvis and
on it.

Klotz:

Ballantyne gave it to me this afternoon.

Nelson:

He ought to give us the copy so we can

Klotz:

When I get a chance, I will make a copy.

Young:

The system works.

Nelson:

Oh, does it? All right.

H.M.Jr:

This thing here --

Nelson:

I will take it up with Bill Knudsen right

said I had been waiting for a memorandum

follow it up.

away.

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- 10 H.M.Jr:

I willtomorrow.
give you
back

this and then we will get it

"Because of the urgency of the Empire train-

ing scheme in its relation to the supply of
combat pilots, it is requested that the
Canadian Government be allowed to go ahead
either with the Jacobs order or with an order
for some equivalent type of engine which will

fit into the aircraft frames (the latter

point is made because Dr. Mead felt there
might be an alternative that could be worked
out for small Wright or Pratt & Whitney
engines)."

off hand, I don't agree with him. Here is
Jacobs, they have got a nice set up, it is

their own engine, they know how to make it,
two thousand engines would last them for two
years, they go ahead and turn out the thing
and I don't see why we don't leave them alone.
Now, get that back to me (handing memorandum

to Mr. Nelson).

I don't see why we don't let them go ahead
and I asked Knudsen to clear it by tonight
and I spoke to him about it this morning.
While these fellows are making up their
minds, these people know how to make their
own engine and until they begin to turn out
a small Wright and a small Pratt & Whitney,
weeks will pass and the plea that Purvis

made, he is wrong on it this time, is that

he has had several requests from Howe, who

is the new minister of defense for Canada,
on both things so he would like to do both
things and this fills this fellow up with
business and I don't see why we don't let
Jacobs go. Check?

Young:

Yes.

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

"Dear General Arnold:
Based upon your conversation with
Mr. George J. Mead this morning, and at
his direction, I am returning herewith
your memorandum to the Assistant
Secretary of War under date of June 1,
1940, in which you discussed the

advisability of placing an educational
order with the Ford Motor Company for
the fabrication of P-38 (Lockheed) two

engine pursuit airplanes, together with
a letter from Assistant Secretary
Johnson addressed to Secretary Morgenthau
of the Treasury.
"It is Mr. Morgenthau's understanding
that this disposition of the matter is
satisfactory to you as you do not desire

any action to be initiated at present.
This is just returning this Louis

Johnson thing, educational order of P-38
Lockheeds. Kraus is sending it back to
General Arnold. You don't want that.

Nelson:

Shall we notify Ballantyne of your answer
on this Jacobs thing?

H.M.Jr:

I think I would wait until you could say
yes on the Jacobs.

Nelson:

H.M.Jr:

I will. If we say yes all on one -If we say yes on one and no on the other,

it tastes a little sweeter.

Here is the thing on Thompson sub-machine
gun and TNT.

"Colonel Burns informed me tonight that,

although the War Department could not
release delivery on fifteen hundred tons
of new TNT as requested by the AngloFrench purchasing Board, it would release

immediately thirty-five hundred tons

(seven million pounds) of grade three TNT.

It is my understanding that this TNT
to be released, although old, is in serviceable condition."

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- 12 -

Well, there is nothing for me to do on
this.

Nelson:

No, sir, that is following up the memorandum.

Young:

Still working on the memorandum on TNT.

Nelson:

That gives them more TNT than they asked
for.

H.M.Jr:

Wonderful.

Nelson:

They asked for fifteen hundred tons.

H.M.Jr:

Gentlemen, believe it or not, that is
mine. Now, only in fairness I will give
you a chance. What have you got?

Nelson:

Well, I told you all I had this morning.

H.M.Jr:

oh, nothing has happened since?
Not since then.

Nelson:

H.M.Jr:

You no sooner will have the room than
McReynolds calls up -- Generalissimo, as

I call him -- then goes into a long
and was it all right with me and I said
yes, "I think if you go back and talk to
Mr. Stettinius you will find that

explanation about this committee of three

Mr. Nelson has already called him, but I
am always glad to hear from you, Mac."

It was all right. So then he went

through the whole same story about this
committee of three.

Nelson:

Fine.

H.M.Jr:

How are they getting out over there, anyway, do you know?

Nelson:

They are moving side ways at a considerable
move forward, I think.

H.M.Jr:

That is marvelous.

distance now. Shortly they will be able to

- 13 Klotz:
H.M.Jr:

I never heard that one before.
That is wonderful.

Klotz:

It reminds me of you walking with your
back to the ground.

H.M.Jr:

One day I said I used to walk always
with my back to the wall to keep from
being stabbed, but I didn't find that
was safe so I walked with my back to
the ground.

Young:

Is Mead still in our building?
He has moved. Johnson is still left

H.M.Jr:

Where did they put Mead?

Young:

I don't know.

Klotz:

Didn't they say in the Munitions building

Young:

I will bet he doesn't like that.

H.M.Jr:

Are you being taken care of well?

Nelson:

Very well, sir, very well.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got all the clerical help you

there.

somewhere?

need?

Nelson:

H.M.Jr:

Everything that we want. We have a very
able bunch of assistants around there.
Nothing I have asked for that I haven't

gotten like that.
The only thing, I would just sort of like

to test Knudsen out and see if I ask him
something at ten minutes of nine in the
morning and ask to get it before sunset
whether there is any chance of getting it.
That was the two thousand --

Young:

I have a question before you get through.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

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- 14 Klotz:

He doesn't want to be put out.

H.M.Jr:

Go ahead, Phil.

Young:

Is there anything new on the motor boats?
I understood that was finished.

H.M.Jr:
Young:

That is what I thought, too. Was there
request for that release or anything sent

any do cument or memorandum or official

in? Mr. Thompson's office called me on

it today. I will straighten it out.
H.M.Jr:

That was done -- Stark and I saw the
President personally in his bed room and
we asked him and the President said yes.

That is all I know, so it is up to
Admiral Stark's office to do it. Is

Young:

H.M.Jr:

everything clicking with Stark on these
fifty planes?
I haven't heard from him on the accessories
and Mr. Nelson and I both have it on our
mind to call him up to check.
Give him a little business.

Nelson:

Yes, after giving him an opportunity to
get --

Young:

He hasn't called you?

Klotz:
Young:

No, I would refer him to you.
Only one other question that I have.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Young:-

The greatest bottle neck at the present
time, the exchange of information between
Ballantyne and me as to what is going on
is what happens when you and Mr. Purvis
have a telephone conversation. Is there
anything I should know?

Klotz:

He has got something there.

- 15 H.M.Jr:

No, this has to do with publicity. He
wanted to know how they should handle
their publicity in England on this materiel
and I called up Steve Early and asked his
advice and gave it back to Purvis, but
that was referred to me by Mrs. Klotz.

Klotz:

Yes, but he can't get anything out of me,
so I guess he is going to you direct.

H.M.Jr:

We will have an exchange of information

once or twice a day, as I told Mr. Nelson.
Every once in a while I do something on
my own, but before sunset I will confess.

Young:

What else, Phili I want you to raise your
hand again. All right?
I think I am clear.

H.M.Jr:

All right.

Nelson:

I have been going through the file of
unfinished business over in Captain

Collin's office on this Allied thing and

I have got a number of questions to take
up with Mr. Young here. We have got the
whole business over there.
Young:

H.M.Jr:

I put my foot down on that.

All right. Weren't you people going to

have lunch with Joe Green?

Young:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

How did it go?

Nelson:

Fine. All right. We were just pals.

H.M.Jr:

Young, here, wants me to put Joe Green on
your committee.

Young:

I talked to Harold about that and I talked
to Merle about it.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

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- 16 Young:

And the general consensus of opinion on
the whole thing was that we should see
what happens, whether or not this committee can operate under the proper

direction. If it can operate, then it is

Nelson:

no use to put him in there.
We didn't speak to him about it at all.

H.M.Jr:

He is one of the meanest men in Washington,

Nelson:

He was very nice at lunch.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know a sweeter, nicerdouble-crosser
in Washington. He can do the nicest job on

bar none, and that is saying a lot.

you you ever saw.
Nelson:

All right, sir, I will let you know about
Mr. Knudsen right away.

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CONFIDENTIAL

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

June 5, 1940

CURTISS-WRIGHT CORPORATION

The British have exercised an option dated May 31,

1940, for 1,450 propellers (three different models), including 10 per cent spare parts. This contract has a
total value of $7,456,000 with delivery scheduled from

September 30, 1941, through December 31, 1941.

The French exercised an option dated May 31, 1940,

for 1,890 propellers (two models). Total value of the

contract amounts to $8,240,000 with delivery to be made
some time during 1941 (exact schedule not yet available).
The total value of these contracts amounting to
$15,696,000 includes $1,000,000 of development costs
heretofore incurred by United States Government.

In addition to this total value, $2,080,000 has
been contracted for expansion of plant capacity, $245,000
for personnel training and overtime, and $336,000 for income taxes.

The total value of these contracts plus capital

assistance items amounts to approximately $18,357,000.
NORTH AMERICAN AVIATION

On May 28, 1940, the French contracted for 450 NA-76
trainer airplanes, and 550 Pratt & Whitney 1340 S-3H1

engines. Delivery of this order to start August, 1941,

and to be completed in June, 1942, (for the airframes) and
August, 1942, (for the engines). Total value of the contract amounts to $16,386,000; no capital commitment involved.

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CONFIDENTIAL

June 6, 1940
To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

With respect to the request of the Anglo-French
Purchasing Board for an additional 250 million rounds
of .30 calibre cartridges, Colonel Burns informed me
this morning that 30 million rounds could be released
immediately.

In addition, the War Department will make further
releases of .30 calibre ammunition, now on hand, if it
receives new ammunition for replacement. Release of
this ammunition will be as follows:
4 million rounds
June
"

"

4

"

"

"

"

"

November 10
December 10

If

10

September 10

"

October

"

10

"

August

"

July

This ammunition will be released at a price of

$30.00 per M.

The foregoing information was communicated to

Mr. Purvis this morning, who stated that the Anglo-

French Purchasing Board would be glad to buy this ammunition.

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CONFIDENTIAL

June 5, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

THOMPSON SUB-MACHINE GUNS

I have been advised by the Office of Admiral Spear
guns at a book value of $321.00 each. If orders were
received from the proper authority, these guns would be
released for transfer, provided that the Navy received
that the Navy has on hand 426 new Thompson sub-machine

the money for replacement orders.

Under existing legislation, it is possible for these

guns to be transferred from the Navy to the Army, but the
pending Army authorization bill would have to become law
before the Navy could receive the exchange value of these
guns for replacement orders.
Colonel Burns informed me that the Army has no
Thompson sub-machine guns to release.
TNT

Colonel Burns informed me tonight that, although the
War Department could not release delivery on 1500 tons of
new TNT as requested by the Anglo-French Purchasing Board,

it would release immediately 3500 tons (7 million pounds)
of grade 3 TNT. It is my understanding that this TNT to

be released, although old, is in serviceable condition.
ARMY MACHINERY

I was advised by Colonel Burns that the War Department

had no objection to the release of the powder machinery,
including the nito-cellulose and ammonia oxidization equip-

ment, over and above that machinery needed for the new Army

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228

powder plants. I have not yet been able to determine
how much of this machinery will be so utilized.
Mr. Cox is working with General Gullion and
Colonel Cramer of the Army on a procedure for the
legal transfer of such equipment.

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June 5, 1940
CONFIDENTIAL

Dear General Arnold:

Based upon your conversation with Mr. George J.

Mead this morning, and at his direction, I am returning herewith your memorandum to the Assistant Secre-

tary of Mar under date of June 1, 1940, in which you
discussed the advisability of placing an educational
order with the Ford Motor Company for the fabrication
of P-38 (Lookheed) two-engine pursuit airplanes, to-

gether with a letter from Assistant Secretary Johnson
addressed to Secretary Morgenthau of the Treasury.

It is Mr. Morgenthau's understanding that this

disposition of the matter is satisfactory to you as
you do not desire any action to be initiated at present.

Sincerely yours,

(Signed) S. M. Kraus
S. M. Kraus
Enclosures

Major General H. H. Arnold
Chief of the Air Corps
War Department

Washington, D. C.

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Y

CANADIAN EMPIRE TRAINING PROGRAMME

A serious situation has arisen in
connection with the Empire Training Programme
on which Canada has already spent over one hundred

million dollars, due to the events of the last two
weeks which have resulted in England cutting off
supplies to Canada of advanced trainers on which
supplies the programme depended to an important degree.
The Canadian Government understands the U. S. Government

has a large number of North American Harvard Advanced
Trainers on order and the Honourable C. D. Howe,

Minister of Supplies, has asked whether it will be

possible that priorities be granted for deliveries
during the next two or three months on some 500 planes.

In addition, in order to meet the engine
requirements for the planes which will now have to be
partly built in Canada, Mr. Howe has negotiated

(subject to U.S. Administration approval) a contract
with the Jacobs Company for delivery of 2,000 engines

(330 h.p.) prior to the end of December 1941 (312 will
be delivered by end of December 1940). While this
far from meets the Canadian Government's requirements

as regards deliveries, nevertheless there was no better

alternative offered. At the request of the U.S.
Administration, this order has been help up during the

-2last week or ten days in view of the desire to visualize
the whole aeroplane engine situation.
Because of the urgency of the Empire Training

Scheme in its relation to the supply of combat pilots,
it is requested that the Canadian Government be allowed

to go ahead either with the Jacobs order or with an
order for some equivalent type of engine which will

fit into the aircraft frames (the latter point is
made be cause Dr. Mead felt there might be an

alternative that could be worked out for small Wright
or Pratt & Whitney engines). .

(Signed)

A.B.P.
A.B.P

Washington, D. C.
June 6, 1940.

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AUX ETATS UNIS

L'ATTACHÉ FINANCIER New your

20 Exchange Plan

June 6 44 1940

Dear m m organ than
you have a eways proved

So friendly to me since I arrived in
this country that I fand entitled to write
you this note to thank you, not only in my
official capacity, but as a Frenchman for
what took place yesterday in your home.

I Know what part you played in the
matter, that it is indeed your wak, and that

if it had not been for you thne planes would they will not be deceived.

never have been delivered to us in time.

with highest ngands

A few daysage I received a cafe

..

from my three little boys (age: 10,3,7) who

Tane Jerry. Beaulier

are still in France. It red as follows in
French: " Ask the Americans to send us

their ranks and planes to help the four
uncles" ie my four hithers who are in the
army.

I thought it might interest you to know
what faith French chiedren have in America,

and I feel grad that, raining to you,

your sincerely

M

smp has not

sun - copy
In reply address - the signer of this
letter. but the Boreau of Supplies and
Accounts and
Refer to No.

NAVY DEPARTMENT

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BUREAU OF SUPPLIES AND ACCOUNTS
WASHINGTON, D.C.

6 June 1940.

MEMORANDUM FOR MR. YOUNG,

Room 294, Treasury Department.
SUBJECT:

Availability of Thompson Machine Guns, 45 caliber, in
the Navy Department.

1.

Answering your inquiry and confirming my telephone message of

last evening (5 June), the Navy Department has available for possible transfer 426 each 45 caliber Thompson Machine Guns.

Inasmuch as this represents the entire reserve stock in the Navy,
it will be necessary for the Bureau of Ordnance to replace these guns in the
very near future. Consequently, the Navy Department desires to emphasize that
this material should be transferred to some other activity only with the understanding that the transaction will be treated as a cash sale, with a view to
utilizing that money for replacement purposes.
2.

3.

There is legal authority for the transfer of material between

Executive Departments of the Government with reimbursement. The book price
of Thompson Machine Guns as carried on the books of the Navy is $321.00 each.
4.
The Navy has available for transfer 1,000,000 rounds of 45 caliber
ammunition for the above guns at $17 per thousand -- total, $17,000.00, which

it is willing to transfer with these guns, subject to reimbursement.

In connection with this general subject, I consider it advisable
to invite attention to the following additional equipment which the Navy is
5.

willing to transfer and which may serve much the same purpose as the Thompson
Machine Guns, to-wit:

3,000 Lewis Machine Guns, ground type (a few need a little $50. each
overhaul work)

3,000 Lewis Machine Guns, aircraft type (good condition;
need slight modification for ground use; can be used $50. each
in short bursts on ground in present condition)
4,093 Browning Automatic Rifles (some require a little
$90. each
overhaul)

it

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(00)

6 June 1940.

SUBJECT: Availability of Thompson Machine Guns, 45 caliber,
in the Navy Department.

The Navy is willing to transfer these Lewis and Browning guns subject to
reimbursement as outlined for the Thompson Machine Guns.
6.

While the original inquiry did not mention the Lewis and Browning
guns, the information is submitted for whatever use you may care to make.

Rear Admiral S.C. U.S. Navy,

Member, The President's Liaison Committee.

(2)

CO: The Chief of the Bureau of Ordnance, Navy Dept.
Mr. D. M. Nelson, Acting Director of Procurement,
Treasury Department.

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June 6, 1940

Purvis called Mrs. Klotz and said that due to the two
stories or the front page of the Times in regard to certain supplies being released, Mr. Monnet had called him
and said that their Ministry of Information is being bombarded for information in regard to the release of this
material. Mr. Purvis did not know what slant their publicity should take and asked him to out it un to the
Secretary, which H.S.K. did when he returned from the

White House at 10:48 a.m.

H.M.Jr. called Steve Early and the following
is H.M.Jr.'s end of the conversation:

"Here is a difficult one and that is why I
am calling you. The British Ministry of Information,

through Arthur Purvis, who 1g head of the Allied Purchasing Commission, called up in view of the story in
the New York Times in regard to the release of certain
supplies. They are being bombarded in England for information and they do not know what they should say or do

and they have put it un to me. If you want facts I can

send Ed Foley over, who sat in on all the meetings.
That I suggested to Woodring, two days ago, was that he
have his Adjutant General draw up a document which would

be legal and proper and give it out, but he did not do it.
The statement should come out of Woodring's office. It is
his responsibility.
"What would you do if you were handling the

press relations for the English in London?"

Mr. Early said, in substance, that what he would
do is simply say that the English government has a purchasing
mission over here and they are buying whatever planes or guns
or surplus material that they can buy.

Immediately following H.M.Jr.'s conversation
with Steve Early, he phoned Purvis and told him what Steve

Early advised. (In this connection see telephone conversation with Purvis at 11:20 a.m. June 6.

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CONFIDENTIAL

June 6, 1940

To:

The Secretary

From:

Mr. Young

With respect to the request of the Anglo-French
Purchasing Board for an additional 250 million rounds
of .30 calibre cartridges, Colonel Burns informed me
this morning that 30 million rounds could be released
immediately.

In addition, the War Department will make further
releases of .30 calibre ammunition, now on hand, if it
receives new ammunition for replacement. Release of
this ammunition will be as follows:
4 million rounds

June

July

.

#
#

November 10
December 10

.

September 10

October 10

.

August

4

10

This ammunition will be released at a price of
$30.00 per M.

The foregoing information was communicated to

Mr. Purvis this morning, who stated that the Anglo-

French Purchasing Board would be glad to buy this ammunition.

P.4.

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June 6, 1940

My dear General Wood:

I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter

of June 4th. To put it quite frankly, I was rather
surprised at the tone of it after our very friendly
conversation on the telephone.

You state in your letter, "I feel we must
have this matter clear." I quite agree with you.
When I called you, on May 27th, I asked you
whether I could borrow Mr. Edward Brooks and you replied that this would be impossible. You then offerred me the services of Mr. Don Nelson and said that
be could come down for awhile. I asked you what you
called "awhile" and in return you asked me "How long

do you want him?* I said I would like to leave it
open-ended.

In my conversation with Mr. Nelson in Washington he said that he would be free to come for two
or three months and I repeated to Mr. Nelson that in
these most unusual times I would like to leave it openended as agreed with General Food.

These are the facts, General. The President
and I are delighted to have Mr. Nelson here assisting

us at this time and, for my part, I would like to continue to leave the matter open-ended. If, after sevoral months, Mr. Nelson decides that he wants to return
to Chicago he, of course, is free to do so, but if, on

the other hand, the emergency is such that the President
and I feel that we very much need his services, then I
want Sears, Roebuck & Company to decide whether or not
he must return to his business.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) H Morgenthau Jr.

General R. E. Food,
Chairman of the Board,

Sears, Rocbuck & Company,

Chicago, Illinois.

Air mail Special Delivery
copy to Donald Nelson

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June 6, 1940

My dear General Wood:
of June

I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter

4th. To put it quite frankly, I was rather
surprised aton
thethetone
of it after our very friendly
conversation
telephone.

You state in your letter, "I feel we must
have this matter clear." I quite agree with you.
When I called you, on May 27th, I asked you
whether I could borrow Mr. Edward Brooks and you re-

plied that this would be impossible. You then of-

ferred me the services of Mr. Don Nelson and said that

come down for awhile. I asked what you
and in return you asked me "How
you want him?" I said I would like

open-ended. do he called could "awhile" to you leave long it

In my conversation with Mr. Nelson in Wash-

ington he said that he would be free to come for two
or three months and I repeated to Mr. Nelson that in
these most unusual times I would like to leave it openended as agreed with General Wood.
These are the facts, General. The President
and I are delighted to have Mr. Nelson here assisting

us at this time and, for any part, I would like to continue to leave the matter open-ended. If, after

decides that he wants to return

to ofthe
course,
is that
free the
to do
but on
the
is
such
President
and that we very much need his I
want Sears, Reebuck & Company to decide whether or not
eral Chicago other I months, feel hand, he, Mr. Nelson emergency services, so, then if, sev-

he must return to his business.

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr.

General R. E. Wood,

Chairman of the Board,

Sears, Roebuck & Company,

Chicago, Illinois.

Air mail Special Delivery
copy to Donald Nelson

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June 6, 1940

My dear General Food:

I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter

of June 4th. To put it quite frankly, I was rather
surprised
at the tone of it after our very friendly
conversation on the telephone.
You state in your letter, "I feel we must
have this matter clear." I quite agree with you.
When I called you, on May 27th, I asked you
whether I could borrow Mr. Edward Brooks and you re-

plied that this would be impossible. You then of-

ferred me the services of Mr. Don Nelson and said that
he could come down for awhile. I asked you what you
called "awhile" and in return you asked me "How long

do you sent him?" I said I would like to leave it

open-ended.

In my conversation with Mr. Nelson in Washington he said that he would be free to come for two
or three months and I repeated to Mr. Nelson that in

these most unusual times I would like to leave it open-

ended as agreed with General Food.
and

These are the facts, General. The President
I are delighted to have Mr. Nelson here assisting

us at this time and, for my part, I would like to continue to leave the satter open-ended. If, after several months, Mr. Nelson decides that he wants to return
to Chicago he, of course, is free to do so, but if, on

the other hand, the emergency is such that the President
and I feel that we very much need his services, then I
want Sears, Roebuck & Company to decide whether or not
he must return to his business.
Yours sincerely,

General R. E. Food,
Chairman of the Board,
Sears, Roebuck & Company,

Chicago, Illinois.

Air mail Special Delivery
copy to Donald Nelson

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Executive Offices

Chicago
R.E.Wood
Chairman of the Board

June 4, 1940.

Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
My dear Mr. Morgenthau:
Don Nelson called me on the phone Wednes-

day and talked to me about his appointment. He said
that you said it was an "open end" appointment.

I feel we must have this matter clear. I
told you over the phone that as far as Sears was concerned, it would have to be a limited operation. You
told me over the phone that it would be an "open end"
appointment but I told you again that this company
could not agree to an "open end" appointment. As it
stands today, the company releases Mr. Nelson for a
period of two months.

I think you will agree, in view of the fact

that Mr. Nelson has spent almost one-half of his time
in Washington during the past four years, in view of the
fact that I myself have spent a good deal of time there
and that we have never hesitated to loan any of our men
to any branch of the government when needed, that this
company has always done its part.

Sincerely yours,

any

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June 6, 1940

My dear General Wood:

I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter

of June 4th. To put it quite frankly, I was rather
surprised at the tone of it after our very friendly
conversation on the telephone.

You state in your letter, "I feel we must
have this matter clear." I quite agree with you.
When I called you, on May 27th, I asked you
whether I could borrow Mr. Edward Brooks and you replied that this would be impossible. You then offerred me the services of Mr. Don Nelson and said that
he could come down for awhile. I asked you what you
called "ahhile" and in return you asked me "How long

do you want him?* I said I would like to leave it
open-ended.

In my conversation with Mr. Nelson in Washington he said that he would be free to come for two
or three months and I repeated to Mr. Nelson that in
these most unusual times I would like to leave it openended as agreed with General Wood.

These are the facts, General. The President
and I are delighted to have Mr. Nelson here assisting

us at this time and, for my part, I would like to continue to leave the matter open-ended. If, after several months, Mr. Nelson decides that he wants to return
to Chicago he, of course, is free to do so, but if, on

the other hand, the present emergency is such that the
President and 1 feel that we very much need his services,
then I want Sears, Roebuck & Company to decide whether
or not he must return to his business.
Yours sincerely,
General R. E. Wood,

Chairman of the Board,
Sears, Reebuck & Co.,

Chicago, Illinois.

243

ask metant paid t flor

lie

Paris, June 6, 1940.
Dear Henry:

I take pleasure in transmitting herewith, in
quadruplicate, Mr. Ward's first report.
Everyone here has done his utmost to give Ward

everything he wanted, and I am sure that his visit

will be most productive. I know I need not tell
you, but in this matter, as in everything else,
speed is of the essence.

I can not begin to describe to you the profound gratitude of Reynaud, Daladier, and everyone
else in the French Government for your cooperation.

You may rest assured that if at any time you get

tired of being Secretary of the Treasury of the
United States, everyone here will be delighted to
take you on as Minister of Finance for France!
I am deeply grateful to you for your telegram.
Affectionate regards to you and Elinor.
Yours always,
The Honorable

Bill

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.

with the Preen
start, marcha
6/25/40

244
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM:

American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.:

248

DATE:

June 6, 1940

Reference is made to my despatch no. 3078, dated
May 31, 1940.

I have received reliable information to the effect
that it is possible that the payments agreements with
France and Great Britain will be concluded during the

present week. I shall send you the details by air
mail.
CAFFERY

EA:EB

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June 6, 1940
8:47 a.m.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Mr. Knudsen.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Go ahead.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

William S.
Knudsen:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Morgenthau.

K:

Good morning.

H.M.Jr:

How are you?

K:

H.M.Jr:

K:

Fine, sir. How are you?
Mr. Knudsen, I see in this morning's papers -they say that you' ve taken over Dr. Mead. Is
that right?
Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Good. That means that

K:

I took his whole staff.

H.M.Jr:

You did what?

H.M.Jr:

I took his organization.
You did, intact.

K:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And -- I suppose one of these days you'11
also begin to pay them.

K:

K:

Well, I'm going to start -- (Laughs) -- I've
got his payroll here, and I've put it up to
MoReynolds

246

-2H.M.Jr:

I see. Well -- ah -- I won't push you on that,
but when you can it's all right. See?

K:

What's that?

H.M.Jr:

You'll in due course take that over also --

K:

Oh, absolutely.

H.M.Jr:

Right. Now -- ah -- here's something that we

the payroll.

want some help on. The Canadians want to buy

a lot of trainers.

K:

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

I think they want to buy, as I understand it,
2,000 engines -- trainers. They want to buy
these Jacobs engines.

K:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

The Minister of National Defense of Canada
has been down here. I wonder if you couldn't
get your people together, plus Don Nelson and
Philip Young -- see? And see if that couldn't
be settled so that we could give them a
release today on that program -- the Canadians.

K:

Ah
-- do you know just what type trainer they
want?

H.M.Jr:

They know just what they want.

K:

And who is the man that knows that?

H.M.Jr:

Mead knows.

K:

Mead.

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

Mead. They saw Mead last night.
I see.

But I'd like very much to give them an answer
before sundown.

K:

H.M.Jr:

All right.
There're two things -- they want something
right away and they want something over

247

-3long distance. Now they're talking about

a
330 horse engine which they want to get
from Jacobs.

K:

H.M.Jr:

Has Jacobs got a 330?

Yeah. And it seems to me that along the line
that I was working with Mead that it
built up one man on one engine.

K:

H.M.Jr:

K:

Yes.

And it sounds sensible to me, and rather than
having a lot of people building a lot of little
engines. What do you think?
That's right.

H.M.Jr:

What?

K:

That's right.

H.M.Jr:

So 1f that could be cleared

K:

H.M.Jr:
K:

of course, the President told me that -- when
I was over there the first time that he had so
many different types. See?
well, I gave him
And they ought to reduce the number of types,

and that's all right, but they can't do it

right away. of course, we've got orders for
H.M.Jr:

But here's Canada willing to place 2,000

K:

Yes.

engines with one concern for one engine
which makes sense, doesn't it?

H.M.Jr:
K:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

Now

K:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

What?

248
4

K:

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

And if that could be cleared today -- George
Mead knows all about it and the fellows that
are handling it for me are Don Nelson and
Philip Young.

K:

H.M.Jr:

All right.
Now one other thing, please. Mead made an
appointment for me to see Edsel Ford on

Tuesday.
K:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I think it would be much better if you saw

K:

him rather than if I did 80 that

Well, I -- I thought of that, but I thought I'd
talk to you first. So you think it's better
for Edsel to come in here.

H.M.Jr:
K:

H.M.Jr:

Much. I'd like a clean-cut break on this.
Well, you told me that and I'll see that we
get it.
Well, can I forget about it?

K:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

And you'll explain to Edsel so there's no hard

K:

feelings -- that you'll see him.

In other words, that you -- you want Mr. Ford
to come in and start to ship engines to the

Allies if he's ordered to.
H.M.Jr:

(Laughs) Wonderful! Now, you've got it.

Hello.

K:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Marvelous. Well, now wait a minute. Got a
minute?

K:

Yes, sure.

249

-5H.M.Jr:

Ah -- the French are ready to place an order

K:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

for 800 Rolls Royee engines a month.

Ah -- the English are to let me know Monday

how many they want.

K:

Mead said 1400.

H.M.Jr:

1400?

K:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:
X:

H.M.Jr:

Well, that's the combined. Well, then, he's
got later word than I have.
Is that -- does the 1400 include eight?

I don't know about it. All I know is that this

morning -- yesterday morning -- told me 800 and

the English said they'd have to cable for

instructions and would let me know Monday.

K:

I see.

H.M.Jr:

I don't know where Mead got his information
from.

X:

I see.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah. I see you and I are going to be able to

K:

Well, sir, you'll have to see how I perform.

H.M.Jr:

Well

X:

I may sound a little short, but

H.M.Jr:

That's all right.
...... let's see, we'll try to get what you want

K:

work together.

and then put it down.

H.M.Jr:

Well, let's see what you can do for Canada today.

250

-6K:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

K:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

251

June 6, 1940
9:23 a.m.

Operator:

General Marshall calling.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

Operator:

Go ahead.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

General

Marshall:

Mr. Secretary?

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

M:

Can I see you for about five or ten minutes
this morning?

H.M.Jr:

Surely.

M:

When would you suggest?
I

H.M.Jr:

Well, now, I ve got 1:00 at the White House,
let me just see.

H.M.Jr:

I tell you, if you'll call me at the convenient
time to you, I'll go then.
I can tell you now. It's on this plane

M:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Huh?

M:

M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

H.M.Jr:
M:

business, 18 it?

Yes, about the plane business.
I see. What are you doing at 11:30?

All right, I'll be there then.
All right.
You can just have your secretary, if there's
anything wrong about it, she can just call up

H.M.Jr:

No, it'11 be all right.

M:

All right. Thank you very much.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

June 6, 1940
12:45 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello

William

McReynolds: How're you?
H.M.Jr:

Hello, Mac.

McR:

Yeah!

H.M.Jr:

How 18 Generalissimo? (laughs)

McR:

(laughs) Oh, I'm kind of out of breath.

H.M.Jr:

Oh, yeah.

McR:

Uh-huh. Now, we've been talking -- I've been
talking with this Commission of mine for the
last two hours and I told them we weren't

going to have any more meetings, they wasted
too much time. I am going to see the President
at 2:00

H.M.Jr:
McR:

Yeah.

and one thing I wanted to bring up, if

I could clear with you -- ah -- Ed Stettinius

has gone into this question and run into the
problem of competitive purchasing -- War, Navy
and Procurement and that sort of thing.
H.M.Jr:
McR:

I thought you meant cement.

Now -- (laughs) and -- ah -- the proposal was made
in the Commission that we ask the President to
announce a committee composed of Stettinius,
Don Nelson as head of Procurement, and a representative from the Army and the Navy to be
designated the proper people from there, to go

into the question of -- of consolidated purchases with the idea on the part of Ed that it

would head up in Procurement and they would
take all the Procurement requirements of Army
H.M.Jr:

and Navy and take care of it as a consolidated
proposition.
Well, this was all in the New York Times this
morning, you know.

252

253
-2-

McR:

H.M.Jr:

Oh, was it?

Sure. I read in the paper that Mead went
over to them and this whole thing -- that
Nelson was going to do the buying and everything else -- was all in the New York Times.

McR:

Iabout
didn'tit.see that. I don't know anything

H.M.Jr:

Yeah. The whole business -- in the Times.

Well, I just got through talking with Nelson
for 45 minutes and he put this thing up to
me and I told him that I was willing to go
along.

McR:

Well, if -- I didn't want to ask the President
to put Nelson on this thing without clearance
with you, of course. Ah -- both the -- ah -Stark and Marshall are very enthusiastic about

getting a consolidated responsibility for

purchases.
H.M.Jr:

Yes, but I just want to make -- this thing

McR:

I do feel. Nelson 18 here working for me
I know it.

H.M.Jr:

And Procurement 16 in the Treasury

McR:

Yes, sir!

H.M.Jr:

and when I -- just let me get this --

when I came here in the fall of '33, everybody
in the Treasury was running over to the White
House just the way they do in the State
Department.

McR:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

And I can't work that way.

McR:

H.M.Jr:

Well, of course
And if Nelson is here, he's my subordinate.

McR:

I understand that thoroughly and I pointed

that out to Ed very clearly this morning.

254

-3H.M.Jr:

McR:

H.M.Jr:

McR:

Now, if on the other hand, they want to move
him over there and make it a committee of

eight, that's all right.
Ah -- this isn't -- this isn't an operating

committee. This 18 proposed as a committee
to work out a system that would look toward
the President under the authority he has
under the '33 order of consolidating Army and
Navy purchases in the Procurement Division as
a Treasury function.

Well, just as long as Nelson and the Procurement
stay in the Treasury, subordinate to the

Secretary of the Treasury, it's all right.
Well, of course, there's no -- ah -- there's
no question about that in my mind and I've
made it entirely clear to those fellows. But
the problem that they're under -- that they're
tackling here is one of -- of working out a -system that the Army and Navy -- so that the

you know the President never would go along

with the proposition of consolidating Army and
Navy purchases in the Procurement Division,
and the President never did it because of their
opposition. Now these fellows, including
the Chief of Staff and the Chief of Operations
H.M.Jr:

Well, that's all right, Mac, but -- just 80 we

McR:

Yes, sir. Well, of course, I don't -- I'll

understand each other. Procurement's in the
Treasury and 80 is Nelson.

never let anybody forget that over here, no.

H.M.Jr:

And when they get this new Public Relations

fellow I hear they've got over there, one of
the things he's got to do is to see that these
stories ought, at least, break after I've been
consulted.

McR:

Well -- ah -- I don't know where that story
came from. I've been so busy since early this
morning that I haven't even looked at the
papers 80 I didn't know it was in there.

255

-4H.M.Jr:
McR:

Oh.

And I gave these fellows a lecture today on
what they could talk about or what anybody
could talk about or what any of their staff
could talk about, and -- without knowing what

was in the paper. But this thing isn't an
operating committee. It isn't intended to do
any -- ah -- the sole purpose of its creation
is to be able to hand clearly and cleanly and
without any reservation the responsibility to
Don Nelson as the head of Procurement being

a part of Treasury.

H.M.Jr:
McR:

H.M.Jr:

Good.

And with that understanding, I have your
consent to the President's appointing Don
Nelson as a member of that committee to study
that particular problem?

I think that you'll find if you ask Stettinius

that Don's already spoken to them and said
that I gave my consent.

McR:

Oh, well

H.M.Jr:

I gave it 20 minutes ago.

MoR:

Well -- that -- it's been 20 minutes since I

left down there. so he probably talked to Don

about it after I left.

H.M.Jr:
McR:

Oh.

I told him I would clear with you before we
would submit the thing to the President.

H.M.Jr:

Right. Right-o. Thank you for calling.

McR:

O. K.

256

June 6, 1940
2:40 p.m.

Summer

Welles:

Hello, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, Sumner.

W:

Henry, General Marshall has just left me and
he told me that he'd been with you

H.M.Jr:

That's right.

W:

80 I don't see any use to my sending
over what he has given me since I suppose he's
given you just the same thing.

H.M.Jr:

Just to keep our records straight, he asked

W:

Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, I didn't ask for it.

Y:

to see me

Yeah. And from the job that he's given you and
me I, frankly, don't see where we can ask him
to do anything of the kind that we had in mind.

H.M.Jr:

Not on the Swedish

W:

Yeah.

but on the other thing, very hopeful.

H.M.Jr:
W:

What other thing do you mean?

H.M.Jr:

Well, he left me -- I'm just going through my
papers here -- ah -- there's a group of some
200 planes -- old planes that he had that he

is willing to

W:

Yes. Oh, yes. I was thinking about pursuit
planes.

H.M.Jr:

Oh.

257

-2W:

Just pursuit planes.

H.M.Jr:

Well, these others are fairly good.

Well, that's helpful.
H.M.Jr:

H.M.Jr:

At least, they'd be something
That's helpful.
and he's putting that in the channels

so that it will come to me officially.

That's very helpful.
H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Well, now in regard to these Swedish planes --

calling for scheduled deliveries un to the
first of August, there'd only be delivered 28.
But I still feel that if those 28 could be
sent in the right direction they'd be far more
useful than in the other, and I was wondering
if we hadn't better further explore that
legislative possibility that we spoke about,
w1 th Francis Biddle, I mean

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

which gives the right to requisition.

W:

H.M.Jr:

Well, of course, in case of a national emergency
they have that.

They have their ideas that in the event war
is declared by the President to be imminent
and until and unless he does that, he can't

requisition under pending legislation. All
Well, I'll talk myself to Frencis Biddle and

he can do is to embargo and then re-export.

H.M.Jr:

see what he thinks and then I'll have another
talk with you.
Well, I've got this memorandum. It's 893 of
one kind and so of another and the attack
bombers.

W:

I see.

258

-3H.M.Jr:

And
I think that they'd be very helpful to
them.

W:

Yeah. Yeah.

H.M.Jr:

That's a goodly number.

W:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And

W:

But the bulk of the delivery, as you see,

H.M.Jr:

Right -- ah -- you mean on the Swedish.

W:

On the Swedish.

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:
W:

H.M.Jr:

isn't until late.

Well, this they could get right away.
Well, that's the main thing, of course.
This they could get right away.
That's the main thing.
But you say you're going to talk to Francis
Biddle.

W:

Yeah, just on this Swedish thing.

H.M.Jr:

O. K.

W:

Thank you, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

W:

Good-bye.

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AERONAUTICAL SECTION
NATIONAL DEFENSE COMMISSION

COPY NO. 11
ASSIGNED TO SECRETARY MORGENTHAU

ASO

ARMY AIRPRANE REQUIRE-

MENTS -- BY TYPES

261
ARMY AIRFRAME REQUIREMENTS

36,500 Program
BY TYPE

Fiscal year
:

1943

1944

Total

:

:

:

1942

1941

:

:

type

Engine
type

:

Airp.

:

:

:

Class and
manufacturer
Bomber, Heavy,

B-17
R-40B

Wr.R-1820
Wr.R-3350

(150)
-

290

50

10

450

340

-

4-eng.
Boeing

990

530

1.330
B-24
R-40B

P&W R-1830

Mr. R-3350

(56)
-

140

50

10

100

190

-

Consolidated

200

310

500

Lockheed

Bomber, Medium,
2-eng.

R-40B

Wr. R-3350

Martin

B-26

P&W R-2800

North American

B-25
B-28

Wr. R-2600
P&W R-2800

10

-

150

360

200

2,190

3,285

1,100

1,085

1,100

1,050

300

50

800

1,085

110

1,000

2,000

2,000

100

500

200

-

-

-

1,350
1,935
3,285
6,570

-

Bomber, Light,

Lockheed

Grumman

P-38
P-58

Cont.IV-1430

P-50

Wr. 1820

P-39
Model

All. 1710E
All. 1710E

Pursuit, 1-eng.
Bell

A11.V-1710F

50

100

900

1,100

200

250

250

5,110

800

2,100
2,900
750

3,650
400

-

225
200

-

Pursuit, 2-eng.

-

A-20A Wr. R-2600

-

2-eng.
Douglas

-

625

-

625

425

1,250

310

P-40D
P-40X

All. 1710

All. 1710 or

- 1,200
-

Curtiss

-

600

-

600

1,200

1,800
3,600

700

700

2,000

50

100

150

Cont. IV 1430
Republic

P-44

P&W 2800

Northrop

R-400

P&M I-1800

600

-

-

-

1,800

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262

ARMY AIRFRAME REQUIREMENTS

(Continued - 2)
36,500 Program
BY TYPE

Fiscal year

:

:

1941

1944

1943

1942

Total

:

:

type

Engine
type

:

Airp.

:

Class and
manufacturer

Pursuit, 1-eng.
(Cont'd)

Curtiss (St.L.) R-400 Cont. IV-1430
Vultee

R-400 P&W I-1800

-

-

-

50

100

150

50

100

150

7,300

Transport, 2-eng.
Beech

C-45

P&M 985

Curtiss (St.L.) CW-20 Wr. 2600
C-39

Wr. 1820

C-52

P&W 1340

Barkley-Grow

TEP-1

Beech
Cesana

Douglas

Observation, C&D
Curties

-

-

45

75

75

100

250

50

100

100

250

150

200

200

595

1,095
-

295

400

400

1,095

P&W 985

25

75

150

100

300

18A

P&M 985

140

300

350

100

890

T-50

Jac. 755

100

100

100

50

250

300

Trainer, Advanced,
2-eng.

Stinson

P&M 985

x

300

-

700

100

2,190

Trainer, Advanced,
1-eng.

Curtiss (St.L.)

CW-23

P&M 1340

North American

AT-6

P&M 1340

Vultee

BC-3

P&M 1340

100

300

400

200

1,000

(600)

800

850

300

2,050

200

200

100

100
100

600

3,650

Trainer, Basic,
1-eng.

Curtiss (St.L.) CW-22 Wr. 975
North American

BT-14 P&W 985

Vultee

BT-13 P&W 985

50

100

300

100

(500)

300

200

100

50

-

300

100

300

400

900

It

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263

ARMY AIRFRAME REQUIREMENTS

(Continued - 3)
36,500 Program
BY TYPE

Fiscal year

:

XBT-12 Wr. 975

:

type

Engine
type

:

:

Trainer, Basic,
1-eng. (Cont'd)
Fleetwing

Airp.

1941

-

:

Class and
manufacturer

Total

1942

1943

1944

25

75

75

175

25

25

50

Aircraft
XBT-11

Wr. 975

-

-

Research

1,825

Trainer, Primary,
Ranger L-440

Ryan

PT-20

Menasco L-365

(100)
100

(100)

-

225

100

450

-

425

-

400

400

-

-

(18)

St. Louis

PT-15

Waco

PT-14

Cont. R-670

(300)

Lyc. R-670

150

950

-

-

-

-

pr-(17)
PT-(17)

-

-

-

-

-

Stearman

100

100
-

Spartan

250

-

PT-19

-

Fairchild

-

1-eng.

1,825

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264

A&N AIRFRAVE LOAD

distribution - BY MPR.
I

1

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ARMY AND NAVY

AIRFRAME LOAD DISTRIBUTION

50,000 Program
BY MANUFACTURER

Fiscal year
:

:

:
-

-

:

Army

1943

1944

25

75

25

25

50

100

100

300

12

20

42

Beech
Navy

-

75

75

100

300

350

100

-

Army

1

1

Army

Trainer, Adv. 2-eng.

-

Navy

7

3

-

Transport 1-eng. BG
Transport 2-eng. JRB
Transport 2-eng. C-45

Total

:

:

Barkley-Grow

Trainer, Adv. 2-eng. T&P-1

:

Army

:

Aircraft Research
Trainer, Basic 1-eng. XBT-11

1942

1941

:

Company and type

Service:

140

250
890

1,183

Bell

Pursuit 1-eng. P-39

Army

400

-

1,250

425

425

Bellanca
-

-

Army
Army

Brewster
Scout Bomber 1-eng. XSB2A

-

-

290

50

-

-

Boeing

Bomber, Heavy, 4-eng. B-17
Bomber, Heavy, 4-eng. R-40B

-

Army

-

Observation, SR 1-eng. YO-50

10

450

530

340

990

1,330

Navy

115

476

729

Army

100

100

100

Navy

89

205

404

140

50

1,720

400

Burnelli
No data

Consolidated

Pursuit, 1-eng. P-40D
Pursuit, 1-eng. P-40X

Army
Army

Observation C&D 1-eng. 0-52

Army

300

434

1,200

600

360
-

-

Navy

190
310

200

1,448

Curties (Buffalo)
Scout Observation, 1-eng. XSo3c

100

10

948

250

-

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

295

250
-

Army
Army

-

-

Patrol Bomber, 2-eng. VPB
Bomber, Heavy, 4-ong. B-24
Bomber, Heavy, 4-eng. R-40B

300

-

Trainer, Adv. 2-eng. T-50

-

Cesana

600

1,200

400

400

1,344
1,800
1,800
1,095
6,039

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ARMY AND NAVY

AIRFRAME LOAD DISTRIBUTION

(Continued - 2)
50,000 Program
BY MANUFACTURER

:

:

Pursuit, 1-eng.

Army

50

Army

100

300

Army

50

100
-

-

100
400

100

250

200

1,000

100

50

300

50

100

150

6
6
5

2,000

Army

100

250

100

25

75

75

175

1,403
1,295

Army

-

450

-

Navy

162

271

470

500

Navy

54

271

470

500

10

18

37

30

95

95

96

70

261

200

250

250

Pursuit, 2-eng. P-50

Army

-

50

Lockheed

Bomber, Heavy, 4-ong. R-40B

Army

Pursuit, 2-eng. P-38
Pursuit, 2-eng. P-58

Army
Army

Navy

500

200

100

900

1,100

205

404

250

949

1,085

500
600

1,100

1,585
1,700
4,234

315

1,225

2,213

50

100

150

-

90

Navy

500

-

-

173

-

Army

360

150

100

Army
Army

200

10

-

-

Naval Aircraft Factory

750

3,804

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

800

-

2,100
3,260

-

Navy
Navy

B-1

5,110
5,909

150

1,000

Transport, 2-eng. JRF
Transport, 1-eng. J2F4

Martin, G.L.
Patrol Bomber, 2-eng. VPB
Bomber, Medium, 2-eng. B-26

2,000

45

110

Grumman

Fighter, 1-eng. F4F-3
Fighter, 2-eng. F5F

30

595

Army
Army

Fleetwings

Trainer, Basic, 1-eng. XBT-12

13

200

200

Fairchild

Trainer, Primary, 1-eng. PT-19

174

-

-

Transport, 2-eng. RD-3 (DC-5)
Transport, 2-eng. C-39
Bomber, Sight, 2-eng. A20A

174

-

Navy
Navy

Scout bomber, 1-eng. SBD-2

Pursuit, 1-eng. R-400

Total

1,700

Douglas

Northrop

1944

:

Army

-

:

Transport, 2-eng. CW-20
Trainer, Adv. 1-eng. CW-23
Trainer, Basic 1-eng. CW-22

Trainer, Primary N3N-3

:

1943

1942

1941

:

Curties (St. Louis)

Fiscal year

:

Company and type

Service:

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ARMY AND NAVY

AIRFRAME LOAD DISTRIBUTION

(Continued - 3)
50,000 Program
BY MANUFACTURER

:

:

:

1941

1942

:

:

Company and type

Fiscal year
1943

:

:Service:

1944

Total

:

North American

Trainer, Adv. 1-eng. 8NJ-2
Trainer, Adv. 1-eng. AT-6
Trainer, Basic, 1-eng. BT-14

Navy
Army

Bomber, Medium, 2-eng. B-25

Army

25

72

100

397

100

800

850

300

2,050

300

100

-

-

400

3,285
6,132

200

Army

-

1,100

1,100

1,085

Army

-

600

400

-

Army

-

300

700

Republic

Pursuit, 1-eng. P-44
Pursuit, 1-eng. P-1

-

1,000
1,000
2,000

Ryan

Trainer, Primary, 1-eng.
Trainer, Primary, 1-eng. PT-20

Navy

200

Army

100

100

225

-

200

-

425
625

Spartan

Trainer, Primary

-

-

Navy

200

Navy
Army

500

200

-

-

-

Stearman

Trainer, Primary, 1-eng.
Trainer, Primary, 1-eng.

150

-

-

400

400

1,450

Trainer, Adv., 2-eng.

Army

Obs. Short Range, 1-eng. 0-49

Army

100

300

250

50

-

-

-

700

Obs. Scout, 1-eng. vos
Torpedo, 1-eng. XTBV-1
Reconnaissance Amphibian 2-eng.

Navy
Navy
Army

276
108

300

434

165

95

-

-

-

200

300

Army

100

200

-

-

-

300
200

100

900

100

600

50

100

150

1,650

Vaco

Army

468

-

1,728

Army
Army

1,260

250
100

Vultee

Trainer, Primary, 1-eng.

700

-

-

Vought-Sikoraky

Pursuit, 1-eng. R-40C

950

-

Stinson

Trainer, Basic, 1-eng. BT-13
Trainer, Adv., 1-eng.

500

-

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

-

-

-

-

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AIRPLANES -- TYPES
TO MANUFA ACTURERS

269

AIRPLANES

ASSIGNMENT OF TYPES
TO MANUFACTURER

ARMY

-Boeing, Consolidated, Lockheed

Bomber, Heavy, 4-engine
Bomber, Medium, 2-engine

-Martin, North American
-Douglas

Bomber, Light, 2-engine
Pursuit, 2-engine

-Lockheed, Grumman, Ourties (St.L.)

Pursuit, 1-engine

-Bell, Curties (Bfla), Curtiss

Reconnaisance, Amphib., 2-engine
Transport, 2-engine

-Vought-Sikorsky

(St.L.), Republic, Northrop, Vultee

-Curtiss (St.L.), Beech, Douglas
-Curties (Buffalo)

-Stinson, Bellanca

Observation, Observation, C&D, S.R., 1-engine 1-engine

Trainer, Advanced, 2-engine
Trainer, Advanced, 1-engine

-Stinson, Barkley-Grow, Beech, Cesena

Trainer, Basic, 1-engine

-Vultee, Fleetwings, Aircraft Research
Corp., Curtiss (St.L.), North Amer.
-Stearman, Fairchild, Eyan, Waco,

-Ourties (St.L.), North American,
Vultee

Trainer, Primary, 1-engine

Spartan, St. Louis Aircraft

NAVY

Patrol Bombers
Fighters
Scout Bombers

Observation Scouts
Scout Observation
Torpedo Bomber

-Consolidated, Martin
-Grumman

-Brewster, Douglas
-Vought-Sikorsky

-Curtiss

-Vought-Sikorsky

Utility

-Grumman
-Grumman

Transport

-Douglas

Transport, Small
Trainer, Advanced
Trainer, Primary

-North American
-North American, Stearman, Spartan,

Utility Transport

-Beech

Byan

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

270

MANUFACTURERS

BY TYPES

271

ASSIGNMENT OF MANUFACTURERS
BY TYPES

Model designation
Commer-:
Navy

cial
Barkley-Grow

Trainer, Advanced, 2-eng.
Trainer, Advanced, 2-eng.

Beech
Beech

Transport, 2-eng.

Beech

Transport, 1-eng.

Bell
Bellanca

Pursuit, Inter., 1-eng.

Boeing
Boeing

Bomber, Heavy, 4-ong.
Bomber, Heavy, 4-eng.

Brewster

Burnelli
Cesana

Consolidated
Consolidated
Consolidated

Curtiss (Buffalo)

-

-

TEP-1

-

18-A
-

Douglas, Santa Monica
Douglas, Santa Monica
Douglas, E1 Segundo
Douglas, E1 Segundo
Engineering Research

Bomber, Light, 2-eng.

JRG-1

C-45

GB-1

-

XFL-1

P-39, 310
-

-

-

-

-

T-50

-

-

-

PB2Y

-

-

-

-

Pursuit, Inter., 1-eng.

-

-

Trainer, Advanced, 1-eng.

CW-23

Trainer, Basic, 1-eng.

CW-22

Transport, 2-eng.

CW-20

-

-

-

-

-

- R3D-1
-

-

-

-

-

- FSF-1
-

Martin

Patrol Boat

Pursuit, Inter., 2-eng.

-

-

PT-19
XBT-12
-

XP-50
-

-

JRF

-

-

-

-

Bomber, Heavy, 4-eng.

C-39
-

-

Subcontractor or licensee

Lockheed
Lockheed

A-20

SBD-2

Utility Amph., 1-eng.

Kellett

-

-

-

- 747-3
- J2F-1

Utility Transport, 2-eng.

P-40

R-400
-

- XTBF-1

Grumman

-

-

Torpedo Bomber

Grumman

B-24
R-40B

-

Transport
Scout Dive Bomber

Pursuit, Inter., 2-eng.
Pursuit, Fighter, 1-eng.

-

(SB20
(803C

Grumman
Grumman

B-17
R-40B

-

Fleetwings
Grumman

YO-50

F2A-2

-

Transport, 2-eng.
Observation, S.R., 1-eng.
Trainer, Primary
Trainer, Basic

Fairchild

-

-

-

Subcontractor or licensee

Pursuit, 1-eng.

-

-

Pursuit, Inter., 1-eng.

Curtiss (Buffalo)
Curtiss (St. Louis)
Curtiss (St. Louis)
Curtiss (St. Louis)
Curtiss (St. Louis)

-

-

Observation, S.R., 1-eng.

Trainer, Advanced, 2-eng.
Patrol Boat
Bomber, Heavy, 4-ong.
Bomber, Heavy, 4-eng.
Scout Observation

XBT-11

-

-

Trainer, Basic, 1-eng.

-

Aircraft Research

Army

-

Type

-

:

:

Manufacturer

-

R-40B

-

-

-

P-38. P-58

(PBM

-

-

(PB2M

Martin
Mercury

Naval Aircraft Factory
Northrop

North American
North American
North American

Bomber, Med., 2-eng.

Subcontractor or licensee
Trainer, Primary
Pursuit, 1-eng.

Trainer, Advanced, 1-eng.

Trainer, Basic

Bomber, Med., 2-eng.
CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

-

B-26

-

-

-

-

-

N3N

-

-

-

-

-

-

R-40C

AT-6

SNJ-2
-

-

BT-14
B-25

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ASSIGNMENT OF MANUFACTURERS
BY TYPES

(Continued - 2)
Model designation

:

Republic
Ryan
Ryan

Spartan

St. Louis Aircraft
Stearman

Stinson
Stinson
Vega

Vultee
Vultee

Vought-Sikorsky
Vought-Sikorsky
Vought-Sikorsk
Vought-Sikorsky

Trainer, Advanced, 2-eng.

Observation, S.R., 1-eng.
Subcontractor or licensee
Pursuit, 1-eng.
Trainer, Basic, 1-eng.

Army

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

NS-1

-

-

- PT-13, 17.18
-

-

-

-

-

- XF4U

Indeterminate
Indeterminate
Indeterminate
Indeterminate
Indeterminate

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

-

C-49
-

-

Observation, Scout, 1-eng.
Fighter, 1-eng.
Reconn. Amphib., 2-eng.

PT-15

-

-

-

PT-20
-

-

-

P44
YO-51

-

- XBTU-1

Arrow

Taylorcraft

Navy

Bomber. Torpedo

Trainer, Primary

Porterfield

: cial

Subcontractor or licensee
Pursuit, 1-eng.
Observation, S.R., 1-eng.
Trainer, Primary
Trainer, Primary
Trainer, Primary
Trainer, Primary

Vaco

Culver
Piper

Commer-1

R-40C

BT-13
-

- 082U

-

-

- JRS-1
-

-

-

Pitcairn

Type

:

Manufacturer

PT-14

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273

NAVY ENGINE
REQUIREMENTS

274
NAVY ENGINE REQUIREMENTS

13,500 Airplane Program

1943

101

1,699

3,184

-

-

-

-

4,112

1,461

1,397
-

-

-

-

-

-

7,498

1,933

-

-

-

200

-

Total Wright
-

-

220

127

133

624

216

361

627

667

1,871

-

-

-

267
402

-

R-1340
R-985

-

144

-

I-1800

12,079
-

B-3130
R-2800
R-1830

200

-

P&W:

Total

269

-

-

862

392

1944

-

168

682

Tornado-2160
R-1820
R-1550
R-975
R-760

1942

-

B-3350
R-2600

1941 :
-

Wright:

Fiscal year

:

Manufacturer
and type

33

96

133

529

457

694

440

1,993

Total P & W

5,017

Ranger:

V-770

480

400

579

333

1,792

NAF:

R-760

467

230

420

1,620

2,737

Lycoming:

R-680

600

Continental

R-670

600

-

-

-

4,430

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

600

-

7,225

-

4,450

-

6,720

600

22,825

275

COMBINED A&N

ENGINE REQUIREMENTS

COMBINED ARMY AND NAVY
ENGINE REQUIREMENTS

276

50,000 Airplane Program

Fiscal year

:
:

-

Tornado-2160

318

3.601
9,184

6,949

1944

4,650
7,183

8,569

24,273

-

-

-

630

3,187

2,772

2,586

9,175

-

-

-

-

156

187

250

-

-

-

42,872
-

-

-

216

1,061

-

-

877

667

2,821

124

250

374

2,408
3,256

1,383

1,690

6,460
9,216
35,044

R-1340
R-985

1,564

2,027
2,706

V-1710

250

3,250

2,146

1,281

6,927

250

2,687

3,625

250

250

6,562
1,193

IV-1430
R-670

693

-

642

-

Continental

-

144 3,807 5,752 6,470 16,173

I-1800

Allison:

655

200

-

R-3130
R-2800
R-1830

-

62

200

Total Wright
P & W:

Total

-

R-1820
R-1550
R-975
R-760

1943

:
957

:

B-3350
R-2600

Wright:

1942

:

:

1941 :

:

Manufacturer
and type

-

400

579

L-440

125

312

125

NAF:

R-760

467

230

420

Jacobs:

R-755

250

250

250

Lycoming:

R-680

694

250

250

Menasco:

L-365

125

281

125

7,499

25,684

35,056

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

1,792

333

1,620

-

31,925

562

2,737
750

-

-

480

-

V-770

Ranger:

1,194
531

100,164

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ARMY ENGINE
REQUIREMENTS
I

278

ARMY ENGINE REQUIREMENTS

36,500 Airplane Program

fiscal year

:

1941

:

:
-

1943

1944

150

3,500
6,000

4,650
5,250

5,250

275

Tornado-2160

-

-

2,325

1,375

1,125

-

-

156

250

-

-

62

187

-

-

30,793
-

-

-

-

3,587 5,625 6,337 15,549
700

-

375

1,162

-

1,994
2,249

250
124

250

374

2,312
2,562

1,250
1,250

5.931
7,223

-

950

30,027

IV-1430

3,250

2,146

1,281

3,625

250

2,687

R-670

93

250

250

Jacoba:

R-755

250

250

250

Lycoming

R-680

94

250

250

Menasco:

L-365

125

281

125

Ranger:

L-440

125

312

125

3,049

21,254

27,831

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

6,927

6,562
-

-

-

-

250

-

Continental:

V-1710

655

-

-

-

Total P & W

Allison:

5,063

-

R-3130

R-2800
R-1830
X-1800
B-1340
R-985

8,300
16,775
-

238

Total Wright

P W:

: Total

-

R-1820
R-1550
R-975
R-760

1942

:

R-3350
R-2600

Wright:

:

Manufacturer
and type

25,205

593
750

594

531
562

77,339

279

ARMY ENGINE LOAD
ALLISON

-

280

ALLISON

ARMY ENGINE LOAD

50,000 Program

:

1942

1943

:

1941

1944

8

:

:

airplane type

Fiscal year

:

Engine type and

Total

:

:

V-1710

Total

250 1,250 500 - 2,000
-

500 271 - 771

-

-

- 1,500
-

-

Lockheed, P-38, Pursuit, 2-eng.

Bell, P-39. Pursuit, 1-eng.
Bell, Model 310, Pursuit, 1-eng.
Curtiss, P-40-D, Pursuit, 1-eng.
Curtiss, P-40X, Pursuit, 1-eng.

250

531

781

375

750

2,250
1,125

750

-

250

3,250

2,146

1,281

6,927

250

3,250

2,146

1,281

6,927

Nominal h.p. V-1710 is 1,000 h.p.
Approx. n.p. in thousands

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

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ARMY ENGINE LOAD

pratt & WHITNEY

I

282

PRATT & WHITNEY
ARMY ENGINE LOAD

50,000 Program

:
I

airplane type

Fiscal year
1941

1942

:

Engine type and

1943

1944

125

2,750
2,000

2,750
2,712

750

875

875

3,587

5,625

6,337

700

250

Total

B-3130

No data
R-2800

- 2,712

Martin B-25, Bomber M, 2-eng.
North American B-28, Bomber M, 2-eng.

-

Republic P-44, Pursuit, 1-eng.

-

Total

-

8,212
4,837
2.500
15,549

R-1830
-

-

Consolidated B-24, Bomber H, 4-eng.

950

X-1800

Northrop R-400, Pursuit, 1-eng.
Vultee R-400, Pursuit, 1-eng.
Total

62

125

62

125

187

124

250

374

369

500

500

1,369

125

375

500

250

1,250

125

1,000

1,062

375

2,562

125

250

250

125

750

375

1,994

2,312

1,250

5,931

187

187

250

624

62

187

375

375

999

350

750

875

250

2,225

125

625

750

250

1,750

375

125

-

-

-

-

-

187

-

R-1340

Curtiss (Bflo.) 0-52, Obs. L & D 1-eng.
Curties (St.L.) CW-23, Trainer Adv.,
1-eng.

-

North American AT-6, Trainer Adv.,
1-eng.

Vultee BC-3, Trainer Adv., 1-eng.
Total

R-985

Basic, 1-eng.

Vultee BT-13, Trainer, Basic, 1-eng.
Total

-

-

-

Beech, C-45, Transport, 2-eng.
Barkley-Grow T8P-1, Trainer, Adv. 2-eng.
Beech, 18A, Trainer, Adv., 2-eng.
Stinson, X, Trainer, Adv. 2-eng.
North American, BT-14, Trainer,

250

375

375

125

1,162

2,249

2,562

1,250

CONFIDENTY - 6/10/40

500

1,125
7,223

283

PRATT & WHITNEY
ARMY ENGINE LOAD

(Continued - 2)
50,000 Program

1941

1942

1944

1943

:

:

:

airplane type

Fiscal year

1

Engine type and

Total

:

:

:

Recapitulation:
Nominal h.p.

L-1800

2500
1500
1000
2000

R-1340

600

375

R 985

500

1,162

R-3130
R-2800
R-1830

Approx. h.p. in thousands

-

-

- 3,587
700

-

-

-

1,994
2,249

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

-

-

5,625

-

-

6,337 15,549

250
124

250

374

2,312
2,562

1,250
1,250

5,931
7,223

-

-

-

950

-

204

284

ARMY ENGINE LOAD
WRIGHT AERO

235

WRIGHT AKRONAUTICAL CORPORATION
ARMY ENGINE LOAD

50,000 Program

:

1941

1942

:

:

airplane type

Fiscal year

:

Engine type and

1943

1944

2,650
1,000
1,000
4,650

Total

:
:

B-3350

Boeing R-40B, Bomber H, 4-eng.
Consolidated R-40B, Bomber H, 4-eng.
Lockheed R-40B, Bomber H, 4-eng.

-

50

2,250

50

500

4,950
1,550
1,800
8,300

-

50

750

150

3,500

2,625
2,500

750

-

5,000

5,000

3.375
12,775

125

250

250

625

5,250

6,000

5,250

16,775

1,450

250

125

500

625

625

113

375

500

500

238

2,325

1,375

1,125

1,700
1,875
1,488
5,063

31

31

62

125

125

62

374

31

94

94

219

156

250

187

655

150

3,500
6,000

4,650
5,250

8,300
16,775

-

Total

-

R-2600

North Amer. B-26, Bomber M, 2-eng.
Douglas A-20A. Bomber L, 2-eng.

-

275

Ourtiss (St.L.) CW-20 Transport, 2-eng.
Total

-

275

Tornado-2160
No data
R-1820

Boeing B-17D, Bomber H, 4-eng.
Grumman P-50, Pursuit, 2-eng.

Douglas 0-39. Transport, 2-eng.
Total

-

-

B-1550

No data
B-975

Aircraft Research ZBT-11,

Trainer B, 1-eng.
Curtiss (St. L.) CW-22, Trainer B,
1-eng.

-

-

62

Fleetwing XBT-12, Trainer B, 1-eng.
Total

-

62

Recapitulation:
Nominal h.p.

-

-

62

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

156
-

1,375

1,125

-

5,063

250

-

-

187

655

-

2,325

238

-

-

Approx. h.p. in thousands

-

500

5,250
-

R. 975

1500

275

-

R-1820
R-1550

1500
2000
1000

-

Tornado-2160

2000

-

R-3350
R-2600

-

286

ARMY ENGINE LOAD
MISCELLAIEOUS

287
MISCELLANNOUS COMPANIES
ARMY ENGINE LOAD

50,000 Program

Fiscal year
1944

1943

Total

:

1942

:

1

1941

:

:

airplane type

:

Manufacturer,
engine type and

:

:

Continental
IV-1430

Lockheed, P-58, Pursuit, 2-eng.
Ourties (Bf1o.) P-40x,
Pursuit, 1-eng.

2,250

2,750

5,250

375

750

1,125

62

125

187

250

2,687

3,625

6,562

93

250

250

250

250

250

94

250

250

125

281

125

125

312

125

-

250

-

-

Curtiss (St.L.) 2-400,
Pursuit, 1-eng.

--

-

Total

-

R-670

Stearman, PT, Primary Trainer,
1-eng.

-

593

Jacobs
R-755

Cesana I-50. Trainer, Adv., 2-eng.

750

Igcoming
R-680

Stearman, PT, Trainer, Primary,
1-eng.

-

594

Menasco

L-365

Eyan, PT-20, Trainer, Primary,
1-eng.

-

531

Ranger

L-440

Fairchild, PT-19, Trainer,
Primary, 1-eng.

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

-

562

200
288

ENGINE Manufacturers
I

TOTAL LOAD

ENGINE MANUFACTURERS
TOTAL LOAD

289

(* Quantities on orders estimated from Treasury Dept. data)

:
:

12,475

-

260

655

200

42,872

I-1800

374

-

10,300

915

200

53,172

-

1,240
4,030

17,413
6,851
374

-

900

900

6,460
9,216
35,044

1,480
8,240

7,940
9,806
43,284

V-1710

6,927

4,184

11,111

IV-1430

6,562
1,193

NAT:

B-760

2,737

Jacoba:

R-755

750

Lycoming:

R-680

1,194

Menasco:

L-365

531

-

1,792

-

V-770
L-440

590

-

-

562

-

CONFIDENTIAL - 6/10/40

-

100,164

-

R-670

-

Ranger:

3,300

-

Continental:

30,973

-

16,173
2,821

Total P & W

Allison:

9,175

R-3130
R-2800
B-1830
R-1535
R-1340
R-985

8,609

6,700

-

P & W:

40

-

Total Wright

Combined

-

B-1550
R-975
R-760

8,569
24,273

Quantities
now on order

-

Tornado-2160
E-1820

(50,000)

:

R-3350
R-2600

Wright:

program

:

: New American:

:

Manufacturer
and type

1,792
562

2,737
750

1,194

-

-

22,724

6,562
1,193

531

122,888

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June 6, 1940
9:05 a.m.

GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Bell
Mr. Thompson

Mr. Foley

Mr. Graves

Mr. Sullivan

Mr. White
Mr. Gaston

Mr. Haas

Mrs. Klotz

H.M.Jr:

Listen, Mr. Bell --

Klotz:

He has got it in the notes, is that all right?
That is all right. It is for my grandchildren.

H.M.Jr:

The President has ten; there is no reason why

I can't look forward to one.

Bell:

I thought he made it plural, didn't you?

Klotz:

Yes. He has ten?

H.M.Jr:

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

Yes, he has ten. Do you still feel the way you

did on this memorandum last night, feller?
I feel about the same.

Now listen, I am not going to do what Bill

Bullitt did, send a telegram saying Italy is

going into the war on June 4th, see, but what
I am going to say is that by Monday we will
know whether this so-called Meuse-Aisne Line
holds or doesn't hold, and the old man isn't
going out on the limb between now and Monday
afternoon.

Bell:

Is not?

H.M.dr:

No.

Klotz:

The old man isn't.

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-2H.M.Jr:

No, sir. I think it is just plain suicide.

If those babies can hold this thing, you will
get a better rate and the thing goes. The

thing that just makes me laugh, here you
fellows recommend that I go off and take a
note at 12/32 above par when I have been
averaging
giving them from 26/32 to a point
in normal times.
Bell:

Twenty-four. Well, it is A small amount, and
I think they would rather have the bond.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, but you fellows recommend, you and George

Harrison, that I do a refunding in these times
with only a 12/32 margin.

Bell:

I all not so particular about the type. I am
afraid of the criticism you are going to take

on the cash payments.
H.M.Jr:

Okay, I am afraid of the criticism of a
failure.

Bell:

Well, I don't think --

H.M.Jr:

Seriously. I don't see how you fellows, you

and George Harrison, can recommend when in
normal times we have been averaging about

24 or 25/32 and in these days -

(Mr. Gaston entered the conference.)
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Geston:

Good morning. I am sorry.

H.M.Jr:

That is all right. I don't see how you can
recommend that we do one at 12/32. The bank
cracked a little bit. What I say is, between

now and Monday without trying to be too great
a prophet, we will know whether the Meuse-Aisne
Line holds or whether it doesn't hold, and if
it does hold, I will go ahead Monday with my
new financing, but I am not going to do anything

Friday and Saturday. I think it 18 just an
unnecessary risk.

Gaston:

Yes, probably so. They will probably give some

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Bell:

ground, and we will know whether it is going
to be a disastrous break through or not.
And
if they do break through, you pay off in
cash?

H.M.Jr:

Right.

Bell:

How about bills? The bills will have to go

then, today or next Wednesday. You are going
to start those next week?

H.M.Jr:

I won't do anything today. I don't want to
tip my hand. I think, Dan, after you have
thought it over, you will agree with me. I
wish that you would have all the machinery
set up and leave me a time table. I will
make it a little bit easy. So we will say
if we are going to do it, we will do a note,
see, and leave me a time table in my hands
tomorrow that you and I can go over so if
you are away, for instance, and designate
who will be here Monday and Tuesday, see.
Who can I work with? That would make it a

little easier, and I don't mind your sending
out the machinery for a note.

Bell:

We haven't sent out anything. We contemplated

wiring all these things. We didn't know what
it was going to be.
(Mr. Haas entered the conference.)

H.M.Jr:

George, I can decide this morning or Monday

afternoon, whether I will refund or pay off
in cash. In other words, I can do it Friday

and Saturday or I can do it Tuesday and Wednesday
of next week.
Haas:

I don't think there is any reason to rush

yourself. I would be inclined to wait. I
don't think there is any trouble at either

time unless things break wide open, but you
can always --

H.M.Jr:

Well, they may.

Haas:

You can always pay it off.

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H. M. Jr:

That is what that bill is for.

Haas:

You have this situation: You have a good
market - not a good market but an available
market for short term securities but on the
refunding they have to go through your right

holders to get to that market, and that is
the only problem here.

Bell:

That is right. I forgot about that.

H.M.Jr:

Well, Dan, all of these things - I have got
to take - if you don't mind, my decision is

I won't make up my mind until three o'clock

Monday afternoon.

Bell:

H.M.Jr:

It may be all right and the market may accept
it in a grand style. I am just afraid -- there
has already been some criticism about the
mystery surrounding the 3-3/8.
I am going to talk in my press conference

perfectly plain.
Bell:

You mean today?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. I am going to say that I have held off

making up my mind on account of this situation
abroad, and that I could have made up my mind

today, and I didn't feel - I want to take all

the time necessary. Therefore, I am going to
wait until three o'clock on Monday.
Bell:

That may help. You are going to say something
that it may be paid off in cash if the situation
warrants it?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. Paid off in cash or a refunding.
That would help, I think.

Bell:

(Mr. Sullivan entered the conference.)
H.M.Jr:

Hello, Sullivan. What are you out of breath for?

Sullivan:

I am not out of breath.

Klotz:

Much.

Sullivan:

Not a bit.

-5Klotz:

Out of gasoline.

H.M.Jr:

Maybe your belt is a little tight.
No, sir, I had it let out yesterday.
I think I would stress, or at least intimate,

Sullivan:
Bell:

295

that you don't know - you are not waiting

because you have inside information or some-

thing
like that. It might hurt the market
a
little.
H.M.Jr:

But that is what I think, Dan, but leave it

and fix it up and put the machinery - and who

will be here on Monday?
Bell:

Well, Kilby probably knows the ropes a little
bit better, but I can delay my going.

H.M.Jr:

You get the degree Tuesday, don't you?

Bell:

Yes. I am supposed to be at the President's
dinner Monday night, and I can miss that. It
is unimportant, but I have accepted it.

H.M.Jr:

What time is the dinner?

Bell:

I don't know. I'll have to look. I think it

H.M.Jr:

Bell:
H.M.Jr:

is seven-thirty or something like that.
Well, in these exceptional times -Well, let's cross that bridge Saturday.

Yes.

John, bring me up to date on the tax bill.
Sullivan:

Well, yesterday morning the Ways and Means
Committee met and after very lengthydiscussion

decided to turn the additional features of the
bill over to the sub-committee, Mr. Cooper's

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

committee. That committee met at two o'clock
yesterday afternoon, and we were with them
and after about two hours and three quarters -You are sure of your time, now?
Yes, sir. They concluded to reduce the exemptions

-6from $2,500 for married people to $1,800 for
married people; from a thousand dollars for
single people to $800 for single people. That
was a unanimous decision. Then their experts
whispered around that they had made all their
estimates on the basis of $2,000 so they reversed themselves on married people and moved
it back up to $2,000.
Bell:

We got a break.

Sullivan:

We had our estimates on $1,800.

H.M.Jr:

What do you mean, Dan?

Bell:

Being a married man, we got a break.

Sullivan:

We had made our estimates overnight under

H.M.Jr;

indication that they were going to $1,800
and $800. Then they got into a discussion -Just a second, wait a minute. I want the
radio on when Foley comes in. I am going

to turn it on full blast.

Klotz:

He may fool you and not come in.

H.M.Jr:

That 18 right.

Klotz:

No music.

H.M.Jr:

Well, we will wait. May be there will be a

little music. I want to give him a little

music when he comes in.
White:

I think what he will need is some crutches.
He was playing tennis yesterday afternoon,

for the first time in a year.

H.M.Jr:

Ch, was he playing with you?

White:

He ordered me to go out. He said he got orders
from you to go out and he couldn't go out alone.
Then they had quite a long fight about credit
for dependents. They wanted to have different
rates at varying years and whether or not they
were in school or not and we managed to --

Sullivan:

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-7H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Can't help it, no music. I am sorry, Sullivan.
That is quite all right.
(Mr. Foley entered the conference.)

Foley:

H.M.Jr:

Good morning, sir.

I was going to work something. I was going to

turn the
on with a blast of music, but
there
wasradio
no music.

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Then they started in talking on the repeal of
exemptions on state, municipal securities.
Retroactive?

On outstanding issues, and they wanted to know and then they got into the field of Federal
securities, too, and they wanted a statement
from me and I told them I was in no position
to give them such a statement.

H.M.Jr:

I am opposed to any retroactive thing.

Sullivan:

Yes, I understood that when I talked with you

over the phone down in - when you were in
Georgia. I would like a chance to discuss
that with you.
H.M.Jr:

No, it is a moral issue with me.

Sullivan:

Iit don't
think it is on the state, sir, I think
is on the Federal.

H.M.Jr:

I am only responsible for the Federals. I don't
care what you do with the states.

Sullivan:

Then may I state to them that we are opposed
to any taxation of interest on outstending
Federal securities but have no --

H.M.Jr:

No position.

Sullivan:

That we are not opposed --

H.M.Jr:

Say we won't take any position on the others,

because you know what happened. They do the

one; they do the other. My position is this:

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298

I have issued these things, and the people have
bought a piece of merchandise from me under

certain conditions. Now, I am not going to
change the rules until those things - we are
on record on that over and over again. I
feel very strongly about it.
Gaston:

Gaston:

You could say in consideration on legal force -You think it is the same thing?
I think 80.

White:

I do too, I think the moral position is the

H.M.Jr:

same. I wonder, Mr. Secretary, whether in the
light of the new situation you would care to
reexamine our position, because I think a case
can be made on moral grounds under present
conditions to possibly modify the position
somewhat.

Sullivan:

May I point --

Foley:

I feel very strongly that way too, Mr. Secretary.
I think at this time we have a chance to fix up

the tax system that perhaps we will never have
again, and as long AS we have a body of securities,
the income from which isn't even recognized in

determining the surtax rate, that is applicable
to other income, I don't think that we have got
a fair tax system.
White:

The Secretary is raising other grounds. He is
not raising the question of the expediency. I
think he would go along with you unquestionably
on that. Nor is he raising the question of tax
justice. I think you are raising an important
moral question of the faithin the conditions
under which a bond was issued. That, I take it,
18 the grounds upon which you are placing it.

H.M.Jr:

It is the contract.

White:

You have said, "If you buy these securities,
these securities are tax exempt," and the buyer
has purchased them with the assumption that they
will continue to be tax exempt until they are

redeemed; and if you impose some tax on it,
he takes the immediate rap because the face
value drops to that amount.

-9H.M.Jr:

299

Listen, that is the difference between United
States and Henry Morgenthau, Jr., and Germany

and what they are doing. Now, they issue
certificates there. They recall them. They
wipe them out, they change them, there is
absolutely no morality on their finances.
White:

H.M.Jr:

That is right.
And then all of this thing because there is a
war is eminent that I, as Secretary of the
Treasury - listen, my name is on those

certificates. I have signed those things.

I have given my word, Henry Morgenthau, Jr.'s
name is on every one of those things, and I
told those people, "You buy them under such
and such conditions. And now you are going

to say to the fellow, "You bought this thing

and this contract is going to be changed before

it expires." Now, that is the kind of thing

that they have done in Germany and do in Germany

every single day. They not only issue them, but
they cancel half of them and they do everything
else with them. Now, there has got to be some
sense of morality in the United States Treasury,
and - just because there is a war on or a war
eminent and so forth and so on, in the middle
of a contract we are not going to change it.
You might just as well change the - say you
made a lease to a person in certain of the a lease on oil and the fellow has got a right
to use or cut timber or something else on
eminent domain and in the middle of it you say,
"Instead of paying me 50d a barrel, you pay me

White:

H.M.Jr:

a dollar a barrel." What is the difference?
Mr. Secretary, there is an important difference.
I think you make a very strong case -What 18 the difference? Harold Ickes or Wallace

sells wood - it is Wallace. He sells a contract,

gives a man a right to graze sheep so much a

head. In the middle of the contract, he says,
"Twenty-five cents a head isn't enough; you pay
me fifty cents a head." Is that what the
United States Government is going to do? If
you want to completely shoot this thing that
I call confidence in Government credit, I don't

know of any better way to do it than that. I

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300

have said it before. It is something you have
got, you don't know how you have got it, but you

have
that. got it. But you can lose it just like
Sullivan:

But that doesn't apply, sir, in the case of
state and municipal?

H.M.Jr:

Now, John, don't tell me that. It is the same
thing. It is boring from within and you do the
same for the states, and then they have me on
the hip and say, "You didn't do it for the
states.' I am not that dumb, John. Don't insult

my intelligence, please.
Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

Excuse me just a minute, sir. You would have --

I sit here and am perfectly willing that Mayor

LaGuardia should give up the thing in New York
and then if they do it, all right, every city
has done it and then the Federal Government has

to do it.

Sullivan:

Excuse me, there is a contract between the
Federal Government and the holders of Federal

securities, but there is no contract between
state and municipal security.
But there is a contract between Mr. John Smith
or Mr. Finkelstein in New York and Mayor
the Federal Government and the holder of a

H.M.Jr:

LaGuardia.

Sullivan:

For state taxes, but not for Federal taxes.

H.M.Jr:

All right, well then beween Governor Lehman and
so forth.

Bell:

There is no contract, Mr. Secretary, but it is
a custom of about a hundred years.

H.M.Jr:

If I give ground on that and then they say,
"Well, Morgenthau was perfectly willing to
have it done on state and municipals, so if he
is willing to have it done on that, why isn't
he willing to have it done on the other?"

White:

May I have a minute or two to present the other
side, Mr. Secretary?

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- 11 H.M.Jr:

Sure, but I say that all of this stuff, I mean,

there 1s nobody in Washington that I don't I don't take second place to anybody. Nobody
has done more on national defenee than I have,
nobody, but it is one thing to go out and

of this whole -

program - I

it
started
and
and
anything to rearm this country or to

know I money this will where whole and do this tax idea everything mean, you business else, fellows get

Sullivan:

raise the money or tax myself, but I am not
going to break a contract that my name 18 on.
I am not asking you to do that.

H.M.Jr:

Yes you are.

Sullivan:

I beg your pardon, sir, I am not.

H.M.Jr:

What are you asking?

Sullivan:

I am asking you to consider the repeal of the
exemption in favor of state securities, just
as in the last Congress they repealed the
exemption in favor of state employees, a
custom that had prevailed just as long as the
exemption in favor of interest on state
securities.

H.M.Jr:

And what are the states going to do?

Sulliven:

What are --

H.M.Jr:

Supposing I go along, what is the next move?

Bell:

Going to tax the income from Federal securities.
Why, of course, absolutely.
The moral consideration is identical in both

H.M.Jr:
White:

cases, Mr. Secretary, but it is that moral
consideration that I would like to try to say
something on the other side, because I think
that is the crux of the case, that is, the

soverign right. When the Government issues a

bond, it no more restricts its activities for

the future any more than the Government, for
example, hires an individual, pays him a

certain salary, and he spends five, or ten, or

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302

fifteen years of his life at that job, and then

the Government decides by virtue of economy that

they are going to reduce that man's salary or
when it increases taxes on personal - private
property -H.M.Jr:

Harry, that is the same theory that some Cabinet
members
in
Cabinet.have, that they have a lien on being

Gaston:

I think it 18 --

White:

No, I think there is a slight difference.

Foley:

Mr. Secretary --

H.M.Jr:

I mean --

White:

The salary may be an unfortunate --

H.M.Jr:

My comparison 18 just one step more ridiculous
than yours.

White:

I think the analogy of the salary was an unfortunate one, but let me say that --

Klotz:

Try agai n.

White:

How about the case --

H.M.Jr:

Yes, give Herbert a chance while you think up
a better one.

Gaston:

I think it is a capital levy, either taxation

of the interests on any outstanding Federal or
state securities. I wouldn't be opposed on

the principle to a capital levy, but if we are

going to have a capital levy, I say make it
uniform for all classes of capital.
Foley:

I like that.

White:

But any increases and taxation on any fixed
investment is equivalent to a capital levy.
It doesn't mean that the soverign power hasn't
a right to increase taxes on income property.
Whenever the state, for example, raises the
property taxes --

- 13 Gaston:

303

But you don't have the complicating factor of
a promise of the Federal Government --

White:

The promise is no more implicit - when a man
buys a Government bond he always buys it with
the implied restriction that he is not going
to restrict the powers of the Federal Government
to alter its tax policy. That always lies
behind every contract which the Government

makes.
If you like a higher morality, it
seems to me --

Gaston:

We issue a statement saying that these securities

are exempt - against taxation and certain definite particulars.
Foley:

I am not advocating the tax of the income on

outstanding securities. I am advocating the
recognition of that income in determining the
surtax that applies to the other income. It

may be the same thing.
White:

I mean the effect 1s to --

Foley:

White:

But there is no morality there.
That is the second thing.
That is point No. 2.

Sullivan:

You see, here is what brings this up, sir. They

Sullivan:

H.M.Jr:

are lowering these rates to $2,000 for married
people, to $800 for single people.
Which I told them I was opposed to.

Sullivan:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

I told them I was opposed to that.

White:

To lowering the exemption rates?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, sir. Below a thousand dollars. I said

Sullivan:

There are about 400 --

H.M.Jr:

I am opposed to it. I said I was against it.

that it is little enough.

- 14 Sullivan:

There are about 450 million dollars in excise
taxes that people of all classes are going to
pay, most of which will be paid by the poor
people. On the other hand, there are people
like Barbara Hutton with about 40 million
dollars that don't pay us anything in taxes
because all of their income is in tax exempt

securities. Now, there is that side of the

moral issue.
H.M.Jr:

Do you know what I am willing to do with
Barbara Hutton and everybody else like that?

But I want to do it openly. When the time

comes that we need the money, I am perfectly
willing to openly make a person declare what
their net worth is, and then say, "We want 5%

of it." Now, that is what I am willing to

do when the time comes. I am going that way,
and that has nothing to do with a contract
and I am willing to say we need 5, 10, 20%

of a person's net worth straight, right off
the top, but that is open and above board.

Sullivan:

Would you be willing to go this far --

H.M.Jr:

When the time comes that it 16 necessary, I

would be willing to advocate that right off
the top.

Sullivan:
Gaston:

Would you approve their writing into the law
a tax that in the future we would tax the
income from state and municipal securities?
Of future issues?

Sullivan:

That 18 right.

H.M.Jr:

Sure, I have been on record on that since --

Gaston:

Five years.

H.M.Jr:

I made a speech on that the first year I was
in the Treasury, '34.

Sullivan:

How about Federal securities?

H.M.Jr:

Absolutely.

Sullivan:

Well, then, how about these bonds, are these

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bonds going to be tax-free, the four billion
that are contemplated in this bill?
H.M.Jr:

You are the first man that asked me that.

White:

The answer is yes - I mean, no, I mean in line

with your policy, the answer should be no. It
wouldn't be tax exempt.

H.M.Jr:

Harry, no more afternoons off for you.

White:

Let
mebewhistle
should
taxed. and put it differently. They

H.M.Jr:

These tax provisions which are now applicable
and - you don't know me very well. We have
these things and they are never personal, John,
as you get to know me --

Sullivan:

Oh, I understand that, sir.

H.M.Jr:

But I feel this very deeply, these four billion
dollars should not be exempt from surtaxes,
which the note is now.

Sullivan:

Should they be exempt from normal taxes?

H.M.Jr:

That I don't know. I don't care. I mean,
exempt --

Sullivan:

That 18 right.

H.M.Jri

The note now is exempt on everything.

Bell:

Well,
you had the privilege of making the
tax exempt --

H.M.Jr:

Excuse me.

Bell:

The law is so written that you can issue

H.M.Jr:

fully taxable securities under that provision.
Well, I wouldn't.

Sullivan:

You wouldn't?

Bell:

You can --

H.M.Jr:

I think the national defense tax -- the first

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306

time a man has put it up to me, see, I certainly

would make them pay the surtax. I would want

to think a little bit about the rest.

White:

H.M.Jr:

That
might be a very good place to start, on
the four.
I was waiting for somebody to ask me about it,
but certainly they would have to pay the
surtaxes and on the normal tax, I would like
to - I mean, this other thing I have been
thinking
have
askedabout
me. since '34, this question you

Sullivan:

After I had the talk with you on the phone
in Georgia --

White:

I think it will make your position stronger
on the other, Mr. Secretary, if you would
include this new issue all taxed. I think
you
there.could take a perfectly consistent position

Sullivan:

And
henceforth all Federal, state, and municipal
securities.

White:

No
retroactive
in the
future. taxes and against all securities

Sullivan:

From now on.

White:

Yes.

Sullivan:

Then instead of stating that the Treasury had
no position, you would want me to state positively that the Treasury is opposed to any
tax on outstanding issues on the interest
from outstanding issues, whether state,
Federal, or municipal, and that in the future
you approve the repeal of the exemption in
favor of state and municipal securities that

were yet to be issued, that is, future issues,
you felt that that interest should be subject
to tax, you felt that all Federal securities

yet to be issued should be subject to surtax,

and you had not yet determined whether they
should be subject to normal tax.
H.M.Jr:

Say that again.

307

- 17 Foley:

No, that 18 not quite far enough.

Sullivan:

I am just restating what --

White:

He is restating the Secretary's position.

H.M.Jr:

Say it again.

Sullivan:

That you are opposed to any tax on outstanding
Governmental securities, whether they be

Federal, state, or municipal.

H.M.Jr:

Any change in the contract.

Haas:

Anything retroactive.

Sullivan:

We can't state it as a contract, because we
don't have a contract.

H.M.Jr:

Well, that is all right, go ahead.
With the states. All right, that you are in --

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

Icontract.
mean, on the Federal we haven't got a

Bell:

Any change in the present system.

Sullivan:

That is right. You are in favor of the repeal
of the exemption insofar as it relates to
future state and municipal securities.

H.M.Jr:

Exemption of what?

Sullivan:

Their exemption from taxation, the interest.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Gaston:

Bell:

State, municipal, and Federal.
All of them.

Gaston:

Future issues.

Sullivan:

But he said he hadn't decided.

Gaston:

That is just as to this particular issue, as

- 18 -

Foley:

Sullivan:

to whether under the present status of the law
we should or should not issue these tax exempt.
That is an assumption, John, that the exemption
is eliminated in the statute insofar as state
and municipal issues are concerned.

I think they are going to write it into this

very law.
Foley:

And if they do, the Secretary is perfectly
willing to issue his securities on the same
basis that the state and municipal securities
are issued, but if they don't change that

exemption insofar as state and municipal
securities are concerned, then he deserves
the right to determine whether or not he makes

his securities subject to normal taxes.
H.M.Jr:

Now you know why he is my General Counsel.

White:

With one exception that would apply to future
sales of baby bonds. If that statement were

made in that fashion, I think it would legitimately apply to the sale of any baby bonds
from now on.

H.M.Jr:

Well, change the rules on baby bonds.

Haas:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Everything.

Sullivan:

If they are willing to appeal the exemption
on state and municipals, then you are willing
to repeal the exemption both AS to normal --

H.M.Jr:

John, you should have read some of my testi-

mony. Get somebody to look it up. I have
always said I will go with the states and
municipalities, but I don't want to be in
the position that I can't have tax exempts

and let them have tax exempts.
Sullivan:

I see.

H.M.Jr:

So I will go with them whole-heartedly.

Sullivan:

As to both normal and surtax?

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- 19 H.M.Jr:

Right.

Sullivan:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

But not as to the other. I don't know whether

anybody else agrees with me on this other thing.

How
do you feel, Bell? Are you and I together
on this?
Bell:

On
thisnotes.
statement, yes. You mean about surtaxes
on the

H.M.Jr:

On retroactive.

Bell:

Yes, I am with you on that.

H.M.Jr:

How about you, Herbert?

Gaston:

I am with you on it. I agree it is a capital
levy, and it ought to be made general if we

Klotz:

are going to do it.
I feel strongly on that.

H.M.Jr:

I am glad we had this meeting.

Sullivan:

I am soo, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Have you got any other thing?

Sullivan:

No, they are just milling along. They produced

LaFollette's schedule yesterday and they thought
it was great and Stamm read them the tough
schedule under that which would raise 451
million and before he had read the increased

tax in three different brackets, they were all
groaning and said, "Stop, we don't want any
more of that." I had a modified schedule
that we are submitting to them this morning.

It is about half way between. It will raise
about 250 million additional. I think they
are going to raise the corporation tax rate,
too, sir.
H.M.Jr:

All right. Thank you.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

310

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

The rate for the British pound jumped more than 60$ this afternoon, following reports from London that the British Government would officially announce
tomorrow new foreign exchange decrees which will have the effect of abolishing
the market for free sterling. The net gain for the day, however, was only 40,
owing to a selling movement in the last few minutes of trading.
In a dull morning session sterling moved from an opening of 3.18-3/4 to a
noontime quotation of 3.19-3/8. At that time a news report from London stated
that "It is understood that new drastic foreign exchange regulations will be
announced in London tomorrow which likely will have the effect of abolishing the

free market for sterling and bringing all international transactions within the
official rates." The dispatch also stated that this presumably would have the

effect of blocking sterling balances, if not directly, at any rate, indirectly.

The rate immediately moved upward to 3.45-1/2. In mid-afternoon, another London
news dispatch appeared giving more details relative to the new foreign exchange

regulations. The sterling rate thereupon rose to a high of 3.80 by late after
noon. It then fell back to close at 3.60.
These announcements were apparently the signal for commercial concerns to

purchase free market sterling before regulations rendered such action impossible.
In addition, there was probably some covering of short sterling positions by the
New York banks. As indicated by the turnover figures, the supply of sterling came
mainly from foreign banks, especially Far Eastern institutions. Selling orders
from Hong Kong and Shanghai were particularly heavy late in the day and their
execution caused the rate to decline sharply.

Sales of spot sterling by the six reporting banks totaled $580,000, from the

following sources:

By commercial concerns
By foreign banks (Far East, Europe and South America)

L 40,000
$540,000
Total

$580,000

Purchases of spot sterling amounted to 1683,000. as indicated below:
By commercial concerns
By foreign banks (Europe, South America and Far East)

$586,000
Total

$ 97,000
663,000

Spot sterling in the amount of 19,000 was purchased from the British Control

at the official rate of 4.03-1/2 by the following banks:

10.000 by the Guaranty Trust Company (for rubber)
9,000 by the Bank of Manhattan (for rubber and whisky)
19,000 Total

311

-2- The French franc moved with sterling. From a noontime quotation of .0181-1/4.
it rose to a high of .0215-1/2 and closed at .0204-1/4. It was reported that very
little business was transacted in that currency.
The other important currencies closed as follows:
Swiss france
Canadian dollars
Lira

.0505

Reichemark

.4000

.2240

20-1/4% discount

The Cuban and Mexican pesos were unchanged at 10-9/16% discount and .1672
respectively.

The yuan in Shanghai was quoted at 5-5/16 up 1/16
There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported that the following shipments
of gold were being consigned to it:
6,097,000 from England, shipped by the Bank of England, to be earmarked for its
account.

5,626,000 from Brazil, shipped by the Bank of Brazil, to be earmarked for its
account as fiscal agent of the Brazilian Government.
$11,723,000 Total

The Bombay gold price was equivalent to $35.80. off 6
Spot silver in Bombay was unchanged at the equivalent of 44.47

In London, spot silver was fixed at 23-3/8d, up 5/8d. The forward quotation
was 22-3/16d, up 7/16d. The U. S. equivalents, calculated at the open market rate
for sterling this morning, were 33.58 and 31.63$ respectively. On the basis of the

official sterling-dollar quotation. spot silver was equivalent to 42.50

Handy and Harman's settlement price for foreign silver was unchanged at 34-3/4*
The Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35
We made three purchases of silver totaling 350,000 ounces under the Silver
Purchase Act. Of this amount, 200,000 ounces represented a sale from inventory, and
the remaining 150,000 ounces consisted of new production from foreign countries, for
forward delivery.

BM:
CONFIDENTIAL

312

June 6. 1940

Mr. Charles Bell
Mr. Cochran

No one of the consular posts listed in the attached communication from
the
State
Department
is of interest in connection with the operation of the Stabiliration Fund.
I recall from my experience at Peris that the Treasury was largely
responsible for the reopening of the consular office at St. Pierre-Miquelon, so I
presuns
Customs
abolitionour
of this
office.officials will desire to consider carefully the proposed
If the Treasury Department contemplates keeping a staff at Bordeaux

indefinitely, the present affords us an opportunity to suggest a classification for

Bordeaux which would entitle our people there to receive increased allowances.
Reports from the Treasury people in Bordeaux indicate that the cost of living there

's increased for them. due in part to the lack of living quarters for the increased

population. and indirectly to expenses which the Treasury people still are obliged
to bear with respect to household effects left in Paris.

20:da:6.6.40

313

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

June 6, 1940

I talked by telephone with Mr. Livesey in the Department of State this morning.

He stated that after our conversation on June 4 (reported in my memorandum of June 5)

he had told his colleagues in the Department of State of the Treasury's position with
respect to the Canadian draft agreement. Mr. Livesey now informs me that Mr. Wailes,
the State Department officer in charge of the Canadian desk, has reported that
Assistant Secretary Berle and also Secretary Full have approved the text of the draft,
as emended by Treasury Department suggestions. The State Department will now submit

the draft to the Canadian officials, and will let us know of the results. Mr. Livesey
stated that if the Treasury Department desired to submit a letter, as we had intimated

the other day, to put on record our position with respect to the agreement under
reference, this might now come forward. On the other hand, Livesey did not think
such a letter necessary considering the fact that really no arrangement was being
made with Canada which would restrict the Treasury's freedom in imposing exchange
control in the future.

B.M.R.

314

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE June 6, 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Cochran

Mr. Knoke told me by telephone this afternoon that he had received a cablegram from the Bank of England in regard to the proposed arrangement for signing
of accounts with the Federal Reserve Bank by Lord Lothian and Mr. Osborne. He
is to send us a copy of the message.

Mr. Knoke told me that today the Credito Italiano withdrew $120,000 from
the Irving Trust. The Banco Commerciale Italiano drew two checks on the National
City Bank in favor of the Yokohama Specie Bank totaling $268,000.
The Banco Credito Italiano drew a check on the Irving Trust for $250,000.
It also drew a check on the National City Bank, payable to the Yokohama Specie

Bank for $144,000.

The Credito Italiano drew two checks on the National City Bank, payable to
Post
and Flagg, each for $524,000. presumably to be used in supporting Italian
bonds on the New York market.

BMW

315

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE June 6, 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Pinsent telephoned me at 6 p.m. to the effect that he had just received

cablegram from London requesting that Secretary Morgenthau be informed that the
British Government will on June 8 make an announcement in regard to the program
of measures on which the Secretary of the Treasury had been consulted last week.

&

The message was dated London, 7:10 p.m. today.

When Pinsent had called on me earlier in the afternoon he knew nothing of
the rise in sterling today and was not aware that reports were out as to prospective British action over the weekend, until I showed him the Dow Jones items
on this subject.

BMK,

316

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Mr. Pinsent called on me by appointment at 3:30 this afternoon. I told him
that we still expected an order to be issued shortly in regard to the importation
into and sale within the United States of securities that may have been seized
in invaded territory. I told him further that we hoped to have the matter of
opening a British Government account with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
settled shortly.

Mr. Pinsent is leaving Washington Sunday afternoon to meet Mr. Osborne of
the Bank of Canada in New York. The two of them will then visit the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in regard to the question of authority for Lord Lothian
and Mr. Osborne to sign for Bank of England funds, in certain circumstances.
Pinsent hopes that it will be possible for the Ambassador to name an alternate
to sign for him.

Mr. Pinsent has asked Mr. Osborne to meet him in New York, but added that he
WES sure Mr. Osborne could arrange to come on to Washington for a visit if the

Secretary of the Treasury might desire this. I told Mr. Pinsent that I was not

sware of any subjects which Secretary Morgenthau might care to discuss just now
with Mr. Osborne, but that I would mention the matter to the Secretary.

317

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1940
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
&

After Mr. Basil Harris had given me information this afternoon in regard to
change in the schedule of the S. S. Washington, I telephoned Dr. Somary, the
Swiss Banker, and let him know that the Washington is likely to leave Bordeaux
tomorrow for Lisbon, instead of Genoa. I added that the present belief was that

the Washington would not enter the Mediterranean, but would proceed from Lisbon
to the United States, perhaps touching at Irish ports to take on American refugees.
Again I reiterated that the information which I had given previously, and was now

offering, was entirely tentative. He understood this, and stated that he would
telephone President Weber of the Swiss National Bank this evening to give him this
latest report, for the guidance of the Swiss in deciding the best means of shipping
more gold out of Switzerland to the United States. Recently the Swiss have sent

some gold from Locarno, Switzerland to Barcelona, Spain, by airplane, and thence
to Lisbon to make connection with the Clipper.

318

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

June 6, 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

Mr. Irigoyen, formerly Financial Counselor of the Argentina Embassy in the
United States, telephoned me at 3 p.m. from Buenos Aires today. He was seeking

the latest news on the American markets, and particularly with respect to the
rise in sterling today.

319

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Mr. Leroy-Beaulieu, Financial Counselor of the French Embassy, has provided
me with the attached memorandum, apparently resulting from French interception of
a cablegram.

This document is being passed on to the officers in the Division of Foreign
Funds Control.

320

FROM BECKSHER (IRVING H. SHERMAN) BERLIN
To CHEMSAM (CHEMICAL BANK & TRUST CO.) NEW YORK

date 11/3/40 - ENGLISH - NOT CODED W/T

Thirty thousand is payment on account REDSTAR legal services.

You have to pay balance later on or recover 3,000 or part thereof
depending upon financial state company final liquidation. Could
loan be made to GOLDDISKONTOBANK (1 or other) REICHSBANK affiliate.
KOLLMAR anxious accomodate REICHSBANK who wishes protect certain

foreign investments by transfer or hypothecating to you. Amount
involved three million dollars which would be a loan to one firm
and equal deposit from another with securities as primary collateral and cash secondary.

COPY

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June 6, 1940
2:45 p.m.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator :

Admiral MoIntire.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Adm. Ross T.

McIntire:

Yes, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

He's not in. This 18 Henry talking.
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you worked until

McI:

4:30.
H.M.Jr:

No, no.

McI:

Oh, I see. That's all right.

H.M.Jr:

Well, the Secretary works until 4:30.

McI:

I see.

H.M.J.:

Then I take over.

McI:

Well, that's different. Well, what's on
your mind, Henry.

H.M.Jr:

Well, just this. I got a letter which my
father sent me from the Mt. Sinai

Hospital in New York.
McI:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And they, in the World War, sent a hospital
unit over to France

McI:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

and they want to do it now and I don't

know where to begin to help them. Everybody
it seems has turned them down, and I wondered

McI:

if you'd help me out.
What have they done up to this point?

322

-2H.M.Jr:

Well,
they've written to the Surgeon General
and

McI:

Well, of course, that doesn't help. None of
that -- nothing helps there. What about the

French Red Cross?
H.M.Jr:

I don't know if they've done anything about
the French Red Cross.

McI:

Well, why don't you do this, Henry. Why don't
you ask Norman Davis, or no, better than that,
get Mr. Swift over in our Red Cross, you know,
he handles all that foreign stuff and he can
give you the exact dope on that.

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

McI:

Now, that's the way I'd do it. I think he can

give you some good advice on it.
H.M.Jr:

I see. You think that's the way to do it.

McI:

I think you'll get -- I think you'll get more -or if you'd like to have me do it, I'11 get
you the information.

H.M.Jr:
McI:

Well, 1f you would

I'll be very glad

H.M.Jr:

I mean, what I'd like to know is, they've

been in touch with the War Department
McI:

That's no help.

H.M.Jr:

I mean, 1f could tell Swift that the Mt. Sinai
hospital unit.
Hospital 18 ready and anxious to send over a

McI:

Right. They want to do that in France?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

McI:

All right, fine. I'll get you the information.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

323

-3McI:

Right you are.

H.M.Jr:

And other hospitals, I gather -- I'm looking
at this thing now -- have been appointed, but
they've
left Mt. Sinai out.

McI:

Oh, is that so?

H.M.Jr:

Yeah.

McI:

Well, that's

H.M.Jr:

That -- that's the point.
Oh, well, all right. Let me look into that.

McI:

Yes, I'll get

H.M.Jr:
McI:

I don't blame them a bit because they have
one of the best professional groups in the

city on that staff.
H.M.Jr:

Yeah, the other hospitals, I'm just reading,
Presbyterian, New York Post-Graduate and a
couple of others have been -- Bellvue -- and

Mt. Sinai was not approached.
McI:

O. K. I see. I'll get you all the information.

H.M.Jr:

And they're ready to do.

McI:

Right. Well, now take it easy, Henry, and
don't overdo it over there.

H.M.Jr:

Well, I'll try not to.

McI:

H.M.Jr:

(Laughs) All right. I'll give you the word.
Thank you.

M.

324

June 6. 1940

Under Secretary Bell
Mr. Cochras

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

At the request of Mr. Leroy-Desulism, the French Financial Counselor
is

New York, the French Rebessy is Washington has forwarded to no, without comment,

the attached menorandus is regard to a concern known as "Rembourses Industrie Bank

which is controlled by French private groups. It will be noted that the French

Government requests that this concers be enabled to dispose freely of funds which
it has on deposit with three American banks.

amp

325

Washington, June 5. 1940

The Dutch society "Remboursen Industrie Bank of

Amsterdam is controlled by French private groups, of which

the most important is the "Union des Mines". The deposits
11 has in American banks, Chase National Bank of the City
of New York, Guaranty Trust Company of New York and First

National Bank of Beston, are almost entirely made up of
funds. the property of either the groups mentioned above.

or of industrial enterprises of the French State.
Even before the invasion of Holland, and in view
of that eventuality, the necessary measures had been taken

to annual the signatures, mostly Dutch, that existed at that
time and to replace them by signatures of French person-

alities residing in France, to which has been added the
signature of the Director of the "Remboursen Industrie

Beak", as soon as the letter was able to return to France.
In pursuance of the regulation put into force by
the Government of the United States, the "Remboursen Indus-

true Bank cannot dispose of its deposits in the United

States until it has obtained. for each withdrawal. an official authorisation.

The strict application of that quite justified
regulation would result. as far as the "Remboursen Bank

is concerned. in paralysing the activity of the industrial
groups dependent on the French Administration particularly

326

2.

of the General Direction of Hines.
Concequently. the French Government would

greatly appreciate that a deregation to restrictions is
force be granted to the "Dutch Society Rombouroun Indus-

trie Bank in order to enable the latter to dispose freely
of the funds on deposit in the 3 above mentioned American
banks. It goes without saying that the French Government

gives all glarentees that these fents will not be employed
is any manner capable of favoring the interests of the

invoice of Bellend./.

SOPT

327

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

June 6. 1940

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
The attached memorandum was received from an officer in
the American Consulate General at Vienna by one of my colleagues
in the Department of State, and transmitted to me by Mr. Livesey.

BMR

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MEMORANDUM

Exchange Quotation Dollar Notes Against Checks.

According to information obtained from the Creditanstalt-Bankverein Vienna, (the largest bank in the
Ostmark), the value of Dollar notes as compared with
dollar checks has increased considerably in the past
week ( May 9 - 16, 1940). A week ago, the value of
dollar notes was about 108 per cent of the value of
dollar checks or cable transfers; yesterday this relation
increased to 118 percent in favor of notes, and today
it has gone up to as much as 130 per cent. at the opening
of business this morning. The market for these transactions is Switzerland, where dollar notes against checks
have been exchanged today in the afternoon at the rate
of $123.00 checks against $100.00 actual paper notes.

This appreciation of dollar notes against checks
of the same currency seems to be due to the fact ( it
is explained in Vienna banking circles) that the pound
sterling has lost much of its character as an international
means of exchange during the last few days, as have the
currencies of Netherlands and Belgium. As, however,
the demand for some world wide means of exchange is

now probably even greater than ever before, the dollar

note is taking the place of these currencies. The

lower rate of the dollar check as compared with notes,

it is said, does not by any means indicate that the

prospective purchaser doubts the value of the check

itself, but rather hesitates to take the risk of losing

the check between purchase and presentation for cashing

in the States on account of war conditions. The
official quotation of the German Reichsbank of RM 2.80
for dollar notes as compared with only 2.498 for checks
does not seem to give full weight to the development
during the last few days on such free markets as Zurich,
as it indicates a relation of only 12 per cent more
for notes than checks.

May 16, 1940.

COPY

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

June 6, 1940

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I enclose a statement of the position of the
Belgian Government, as given to this Department by
the Belgian Ambassador.

This Department takes the view that, for the
time being, the government of Belgium is being
carried on by the Belgian Government functioning in

Paris. It has taken note of the fact that, the
King being prisoner, his powers and duties devolve

upon the Cabinet. It is not understood that the
King has undertaken to set up any new Government.

There would, therefore, appear to be no change in
continuity of the Belgian Government, and no question

of negotiation is presented.
Sincerely yours,

For the Secretary of State:
(Signed) Summer Welles
Under Secretary

Enclosure:
Statement

The Honorable
Henry Morgenthau,

Secretary of the Treasury.
(COPY)

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DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Memorandum of Conversation

Date: May 28, 1940
SUBJECT:

Status of Belgium

PARTICIPANTS: The Belgian Ambassador, Count van der Straten-Ponthox:
M. Theunis;

Mr. A. A. Berle, Jr.

COPIES TO:

S. U. EU

The Belgian Ambassador and M. Theunis, accompanied

by Mr. Moffat, came in to see me, at their request. They
had hoped to see Mr. Welles, but were unable to do so.
Both, and particularly M. Theunis, were obviously

in a high state of agitation.
They handed me the attached statement announcing

that M. Pierlot considered that the surrender of the
King of the Belgians was contrary to the views of the
Belgian government, and that the government proposed

to carry on the war.
I asked what they considered was the present
status of the Belgian government.

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The Ambassador answered that they considered that

the Belgian government was intact, and was functioning

at Paris. The King was now a prisoner and therefore

could not now exercise his rights as king. For the time
being, all constitutional rights and powers devolved on
the government.

The Belgian constitution provided that in such case
Parliament should be assembled and a regent appointed.

Plainly, Parliament could not assemble. By consequence, it
was expected that the government would carry on.

M. Theunis was bitter at the French for casting the
whole blame of the northern defeat on the Belgians, adding

that it was not the Belgian line that had broken, but
the French line, at Sedan. It was like the French, he

said, to take all the credit if things went well and
blame their neighbors if things went badly.

He was likewise critical of the King.
I said that we were slow to pass judgment here,
knowing of the great strain; but that we sympathized

with their difficulties, and took note of his declaration.
It appeared, during the course of the conversation,
that the two gentlemen had been in touch with the
Belgian Ambassador at London; and with the Belgian

Minister of Finance in Paris, from whom they had

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-3 confirmation of the fact that the Belgian government had unanimously

determined against the King's capitulation, but he had capitulated,
in any event. His excuse was that the Belgian army was now without
rations and almost without ammunition.

A.A. Berle, Jr.

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(COPY)

Statement of the Belgian Ambassador
May 28th, 1940.

The Belgian Embassy has received confirmation of the

declaration of the Belgian Prime Minister, Monsieur Pierlot,

affirming that the capitulation of the Belgian Army, signed
by the King, was contrary to the views of the Belgian
Government, which is determined to carry on the fight
against the aggressor. All the members of the Government
are unanimous in making this declaration. The French
and English Governments continue their collaboration with
the Belgian Government under the Premiership of Monsieur

Pierlot. The Belgian Embassy has brought these facts to
the attention of the American Government.

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JR

PLAIN

London

Dated June 6, 1940

Rec'd 1:20 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

1525, June 6.
FOR TREASURY FROM BUTTERWORTH.

No comment is required on the projected structural
changes in the British Exchange control, which also

entail the blocking of British securities in the
ownership of American citizens not resident in the United

Kingdom, as the British Treasury states prior consultation
and acceptance was obtained in Washington SOME time ago.

The following is the proposed press notice which is

to be published on the 8th, the new regulations to take
effect on the 10th:
"Important steps have been taken by His Majcsty's

Government in continuation of the policy of basing foreign
trade on the official rate of Exchange and of limiting the
volume of transactions in the free market for sterling.

1. For the time being no licenses will be given for
the sale in the United Kingdom of securities owned by persons
resident outside the sterling and franc areas. (SEE my
1166, May 10, paragraph 4 ).
2. By

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-2- #1525, June 6, from London.
2. By an Order in Council amending the DEfEncE
Finance Regulations 1939 all Exports from the United
Kingdom to the United States of America and Switzerland

will have to be paid for in sterling obtained from the
Exchange control at official rates or Else in United
States dollars or Swiss francs respectively. Exchange
will normally be provided in their own currencies to
residents in the United States of America and Switzerland
in respect of commercial and current financial payments
(including interest and dividends) due to them.

3. As regards transactions with other countries
outside the sterling and Allied areas, broadly the same
Effect will be achieved by extending the system of
payments agreements and special accounts (SEE my 644 of

March 14, paragraphs 2 and 3), which enables settlement to

be Effected in sterling through official channels at

official rates.
4. The regulations requiring payment for Exports

of jute, rubber, tin, whiskey, furs and diamonds to certain
countries (Belgium, Belgium Congo, Netherlands,
Netherlands Empire and countri ES of South and Central

America) to be obtained in certain specified foreign
currencies (or in sterling obtained from the Exchange
control against those currencies) have now been revoked in
the

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-3- #1525, June S, from London.

the CASE of Exports to countries other than the United
States and Switzerland.
5. Similar arrangements have been or will be made by

other countries in the sterling area.
The above measures will further reduce the volume

of sterling that can be dealt in on foreign markets and
will enable our foreign trade to be conducted on the basis

of sterling at the official rate. This will Ensure the
benefit of a stable rate, both to ourselves and to the
countries with whom WE trade. It will moreover Ensure

that full value is received for our Exports, Either in
the form of imports into this country, or in the form of
currencies which are urgently required for the payment for
materials, foodstuffs and munitions ESSEntial to the
prosecution of the war.
It should be added that the United Kingdom's trade

with the sterling area, viz., the British Empire (Excluding
Canada, Newfoundland and Hong Kong) plus Egypt, the

Anglo-Egyptian Sudan and Iraq, is of course conducted in

sterling, and no question of Exchange arises. With Canada,
an agreement having the Effect of a payments agreement is
already in operation."

As regards (3) above the British Treasury states it
intends to invite the Balkan and South American countries
and

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-A- #1525, June 6, from London.

and Japan to conclude payments agreements similar to those
already made with the Argentine and Sweden and now

practically concluded with Rumanic. It is planned that if
agreement cannot be reached before the End of this month

to impose unilateral clearings and of course that will be

the threat to facilitate negotiations.
As regards (2) I inquired whEthEr contracts made prior
to the coming into force of the regulations would be

permitted to be fulfilled by unofficial market sterling
and was informed that the machinery to this End would be
instituted whereby the genuineness of such contracts could
be proved.

The British officials concerned with the administration
of Exchange control SEEM to be of more than one mind as

to the effect on the unofficial market rate of the
imposition of these regulations but it SEEMS clear that
the freedom with which pre-regulation contracts can be

paid for in unofficial sterling will greatly affect the
immediate demand and that the manner in which the announce-

ment of these regulations is received in non-sterling area
places such as Shanghai, where there are large holders of

sterling balances, not now to be blocked, will greatly
affect the supply.
KENNEDY
HSM

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MA

GRAY

Berlin
Dated June 6, 1940
Rec'd 10 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

1700, June 6, 4 p.m.
My number 1385, May 17, 5 p.m.
FOR TREASURY FROM HEATH AND ALSO FOR THE INFORMATION
OF THE DEPARTMENT.

According to the official statement which has just
appeared the long term debt of the Reich increased
during February by 554 million marks which added to the

1,685 million marks increase in short term debt
reported in my telegram under reference makes a total

increase in the Reich debt during February of 2,239 million
marks. This is the highest increase in government debt
in any month since October when it amounted to 2,483
million marks. From November through January the average
month increase in debt had been only 1,823 million marks.

As in previous months outside of an increase of 19.5
million marks in the Rentenbank loan practically the

entire rise in long term debt during February was in the
form of 11-loans.

The total disclosed debt of the Reich on February
29th amounted to 49,803 million marks of which 27,749
was

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MA -2- tel # 1700 . June 6, from Berlin.
was on long term and 22,059 on short term (including

tax certificates).
HEATH
KLP

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GRAY

JT

PARIS

Dated June 6, 1940

Rec'd 4:18 P.M.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

1051, June 6, 1 p.m.
FOR THE TREASURY.

A decree published in today's Journal Official
appoints Yves Bouthillier as Finance Minister to replace Lucien Lamour Eux. Bouthillier is a civil SERVICE
official who has passed most of his career in the Finance
Ministry, having occupied the post of Secretary General
since November 2,1938. Other positions which he had held
include those of Director General of the Indirect Taxa-

tion Service, Director of the Budget, and Director of
Finances of the Department of the Seine.

ThE fact that Reynaud has chosen a career official
rather than a member of Parliament as Minister of
0

Finance may be considered as indicating his desire to

increase his control over the activities of the Ministry.
BULLITT
KLP

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JT

GRAY

PARIS

Dated June 6, 1940

Rec'd 5:40 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington

1062, June 6, 6 p.m.
FOR THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT

ThE market was fairly firm today and most French securities registered slight advances. SUEZ gained 650 points.
The Bank of France statement for the WEEK Ended May 30

shows an increase in commercial advances of 296 million

francs. The Treasury drew upon its advance account with the
bank in the amount of 5,990 million francs thereby increasing the total amount of such advances to 32,600

million, Bank note circulation increased by 4,157
millions. The total circulation on May 30 therefore
amounted to 170,853.millions.
BULLITT
KLP

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GRAY

Milan

Dated June 6, 1940

Rec'd 1:25 P. M.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

58, June 6, 5 p. m.
Today's market index 217.70. Volume 66,375.

Most quotations recovered slightly in quiet trading
possibly due to coverage speculative sales.
SCHNARE
HPD

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General Ruling No. 5 under Section 5(b) of
the Act of October 6, 1917 (40 Stat. 411), as
amended, Executive Order No. 8389 of April 10,
1940, as amended, and Regulations issued pursuant

thereto. and under all other authority of law.

June 6, 1940.

The sending. mailing, importing or otherwise bringing into the United
States, on and after June 7, 1940, from any foreign country, of any securities or evidences thereof or the receiving or holding in the United
States of any securities or evidences thereof so brought into the United
States is prohibited, except on condition that such securition and evidences thereof be immediately delivered for examination to a Federal
Reserve bank as fiscal agent of the United States. Such Feder 1 Reserve
bank, as fiscal agent of the United States, shall hold such securities
and all evidences thereof until the Trensury Department 1. satisfied as
to whether or not any of the countrios named in Executive Order No. 3389,
as amended, or any national thereof as at any time on or since the dates
specified in such Order, as amended, had any interest of any nature what-

soever, direct or indirect, in such securities or evidences ticreof.
Proof as to whether or not any of such countries or any actionl thereof
has had any such interest may be submitted to the Federal Reserve bank
holding such securities or evidences thereof.

Custom officers and postal employees are instructed to deliver any
such securities or evidences thereof to a Feder 1 Reserve bank. Any
articles arriving from any foreign country on or after June 7, 1940, which
in the opinion of customs officers or postal employees 02 tain such
securities or evidences thereof, shall be subjected to custom inspection
in accordance with the Customs Regulations of 1937. If any article
opened by an addressee or his agent in the resence or under the supervision of a customs officer or postal employee is found to CO in auch
securities or evidences thereof, such sec .rities or evidences thereof
shall be surrendered forthwith to suc customs officer or oatel employee
for dalitary to a Federal Reserve bank, 15 above provided.

Secretary of the Treasury.

PROVED: June 6 , 1940.

finishbur Muchele

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June 6, 1940

MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

I assume from the first sentence of your memorandum
of June 6 that you intended to approve the General Ruling
which has been prepared relative to the importation of securities. Would you be good enough to indicate your approval
by signing the General Ruling at the foot thereof.
We have also been considering with the SEC the other
question mentioned in your memorandum, namely, requiring

affidavits of ownership of securities. We are continuing to
study the problem and we hope to be able, in the near future,
to submit something to you concerning the matter.

(Signed) H. Morgenthan, Jr.

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

June 6, 1940.
MEMORANDUM FOR

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

I approve the proposed general

ruling in regard to securities here-

after imported from certain countries.
In addition to the provisions

of this ruling, I think the Treasury

or the S.E.C. or the Federal Reserve

Board, or all of them, should require
sworn affidavits relating to ownership
for at least one year past in the case
of any and all securities, public and
private, which require to be transferred on the books, i.e., negotiable
securities rather than bearer se-

i curities.

F. D. R.

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

WHITE
JUN

ORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT

5

HOUSE

1940 PM 40

RECEIVED

Annexed is a general ruling to be issued pursuant to the existing
Order and Regulations imposing certain "freezing" control.

The proposed ruling will require all securities imported into the

United States to be forwarded to a Federal Reserve bank to be held there

until the Treasury Department is satisfied that such securities have in
effect not been taken from the invaded countries by an aggressor.

We have been informed that a great many securities in bearer as well
as in registered form have been thus seized by the aggressor and we have
been asked by the British, French and the Dutch to take action to prevent

such looted securities from being liquidated in our markets. I believe
that the proposed general ruling will be very helpful in thus carrying out
the purposes of the existing freezing control.

With respect to the mechanics of administering such control, I might
point out that it will be effected in a manner comparable to the present
controls of dutiable articles, narcotics and obscene literature. Customs
would include in its regular examinations search for securities. Post
Office would segregate those letters which by their bulk might contain
securities and the addressees of such mail would be asked to open the
letters in the presence of a postal employee. There would be no mail censorship. Any securities thus found would be forwarded to the Federal Reserve
bank. It is anticipated that it will not be necessary to make any examinations for securities coming from England, France, or Canada, since such
countries already take action which would preclude looted securities from
coming to us through such channels.

The ruling has the approval of the Attorney General, SEC, and the
State and Post Office Departments.

If you agree, kindly indicate your approval by signing at the bottom
of the general ruling.
We are also considering, together with other interested Departments,
other lines of action that may appropriately be taken to prevent the
liquidation in our country of securities looted abroad.

Secretary of the Treasury.

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

as

JUN 6 1940
MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT:

The British Government, fearing that Germany may inspire litigation
in this country for the purpose of tying up British Government funds here,
is anxious that British Government funds held at the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York be held in the name of the British Government rather than in
the name of the Bank of England. The British Government has been advised

by American lawyers that through such procedure the possibility of British

Government funds being tied up is reduced, because of the immunity from
suit enjoyed by a foreign government's property.

The Dutch Government has also requested that certain of the accounts
held by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in the name of the central
bank of the Netherlands be transferred into the name of the Netherlands
Government.
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has some doubts as to its

ability to hold accounts for foreign governments unless it is authorised
to do so by the Secretary of the Treasury. It is my opinion that by
virtue of the provisions of Section 5 (b) of the Trading with the Enemy
Act, as amended, the statutory provisions relative to the appointment
of Federal Reserve banks as fiscal agents, and the stabilization provisions in the Gold Reserve Act, the President and the Secretary of the

Treasury have the power to authorize the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

to hold accounts for foreign governments. As you know, it is in the
interests of this Government that there be maintained at the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York, as distinguished from other compercial banks,
accounts of certain foreign governments which are used in connection
with the purchase of war materials.
Accordingly, if you approve, I propose to send the annexed letter
to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York authorizing the Bank to open
such accounts for the British and Dutch Governments. If you approve

the foregoing, kindly indicate at the foot hereof.

Secretary of the Treasury!
APPROVED:

Mussel

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON

Dear Sirs:

June 7, 1940.

Enclosed is a memorandu received from the Financial Counsellor

of the British Embassy on May 27, 1940, in which the British
Government asks that its accounts with the Federal Reserve Bank
of You York standing in the name of the Bank of England be con-

terted into accounts with the title in each case of His Britannic
Majesty's Government's Account".

You have also advised this Department that the Netherlands

Government in London has asked that certain of its accounts in the
name of De Hederlandsche Bank be transferred to accounts in the
name of the Royal Netherlands Government.

The Treasury Department would be pleased to have the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York, 86 fiscal agent of the United States, open
and maintain the account requested by the British and Netherlands
Governments on the same basis that the Federal Reserve Bank handles

other foreign accounts, and accordingly requests and authorizes the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York to do so.

Very truly yours,

Secretary of the Treasury.
Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
New York, New York.
closure

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KEMORANDOM

His Majorty's Government has had under

consideration the safeguarding of funds belonging to
that Government, which may be deposited from time to

time in banks in the United States of America, from
the risk that actions might be started by German

interests for the attachment of these funds in respect
of debts due to Germany.

The most important case in question is
that of the accounts in the Federal Reserve Bank, New
York, standing in the name of the Bank of England.

While these accounts do, in fact, represent funds
belonging to His Majesty's Government, it would appear

that there is no absolute protection in the present
state of affairs against some attempt to attach these
funds in respect of debts owed by the Bank of England
to, e.g., the Reichabank, which were frosen on the

outbreak of war as a result of the Trading with the
Enemy provisions.

His Majesty's Government have taken legal

advice on this matter and understand that the only

certain protection would be to convert these Bank of
England accounts at the Federal Reserve Bank, New

York, definitely into British Government accounts, with
/ the

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-2the title in each case of "His Britannie Majorty's
Government Accounts.

The Bank of England has been in communi-

catien on the subject with the Federal Reserve Bank,

and it is understood that the initiative for a
change of this kind should come from the United
States Treasury. His Majesty's Government

would be grateful if the United States Treasury
would give early consideration to their request
that this change should be made.

If the matter is agreed in principle
the necessary technical instructions will be
sent by the Bank of England direct to the
Federal Reserve Bank.

British Enbassy,
Washington, D. c.
27th May 1940.

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM:

American Embassy, La Paz

NO.:

44

DATE:

June 6, 1940.

Reference is made to the Department's telegram

no. 23 of June 4, 1940, 6 p.m.
On January 14, 1934 the Bolivian Congress passed

a law authorizing the Banco Central to negotiate a

foreign loan for the account of the Brazilian Government on collateral which was to be lent by banks,
including 120,000 pounds sterling in gold coin from
the Banco Mercantil . Article Six of the abovementioned law reads:

"As the Banco Central amortizes the loan and frees

the gold coin collateral the latter will be placed at
the disposal of the banks pro rata 80 that they may
have for their account abroad up to the total amount
which has been exported. .

A contract, dated January 31, 1934, between the
Bolivian Government and the Banco's Central Nacional

and Mercantil provides for delivery of the gold. This
contract contains an analogous clause.
On June 30, 1934 a supreme decree was issued by

the President and the Cabinet authorizing an additional
foreign

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foreign loan on collateral, including 30,000 pounds
sterling in gold coin from the Banco Mercantil. Clauses
similar to the one quoted above are contained in this
decree and in the respective loan contract.

An identic stipulation reading as follows is contained in the supreme resolutions dated December 23,
1934 and October 23, 1935, which were issued by the

President and the Cabinit to authorize the extension
and amendment of the loan contracts:

"There remains in effect in all its parts the
obligation contracted by the government in favor of the
banks for the return of the gold which they have loaned

for collateral with all of the securities contained in
the respective documents." If

Title and control over the gold under discussion
should, it would therefore appear, revert to the Banco
Mercantil. Under the Bolivian gold regulations in force
at the time the loans were made and in force at the

present time, exportation of gold without the express

permission of the Minister of Finance is prohibited
and the purposes for which authorization may be granted

are not specified. Since the law decrees mentioned above
were signed by the Finance Minister, it would seem that
permission within the terms expressed in them was implied.
The

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The Bolivian Government takes the stand that

regardless of the foregoing considerations it is
illegal for the Banco Mercantil to sell gold because
of Article VII of the Supreme Decree dated May 25, 1932,

which provides in part that the express permission of
the Ministry of Finance must be secured before gold in
any form may be exported and that all sales of gold must
be made to the Banco Central and because of Article I
of the Supreme Decree dated January 31, 1935, which pro-

vides in part that minted and unminted gold shall be
concentrated in the Banco Central of Bolivia and that
the bank will make the acquisitions, paying for them

fully in foreign exchange or in Bolivian pesos at the
option of the seller.
It seems that the latter provision 18 in conflict
with the assurances given by the Bolivian Government

that when the gold arrives in Bolivia it will be turned
over to the Banco Mercantil. On May 8, 1940 the Banco

Mercantil made a written offer to sell the gold to the
Banco Central against dollars in cash. However, since
the Banco Central does not have enough foreign exchange,

it offered instead a dollar promissory note.
JENKINS

EA:EB

1,

Jane 6, 1940.

Dear Mr. President:

I have received your - of June 5th,

advising - that the request of the Civil Aeronautics
Authority for funds with which to provide station
shipe for weather reporting in the Atlantic has been

disapproved, and directing that arrangements be made
to Coast
continue
the weather
of
Guard
outters. reporting service by means

This will be done.
Respectfully,
(Signed) H Morgenthau, Jr.

Secretary of the Treasury.

The President,
The White House.

HEG/r

By Messenger 4 30 4/7
File to Mr. Thompson

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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

JUN 5T 194C

MORANDUM TO THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

The Director of the Bureau of the Budget has discassed with me proposed supplemental estimates pre-

sented by the Civil Aeronautics Authority for the purpose
of obtaining
funds to establish weather reporting
stations
in the Atlantic.

I have instructed the Director to advise the
Authority that their request has not been approved and
that as long as emergency weather reporting service

is required
Guard
cutters.it

will be furnished AB at present by Coast

Will you kindly see to it that arrangements are

made to have this service continued.

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June 6, 1940

Dear Mr. Hoover:

The Secretary has turned over to me for acknowledgment

your letter of June 4, 1940, furnishing information concerning
a transaction between the German Consulate General in New York

and the Women's Foreign Missionary Society of the Methodist
Episcopal Church at Philadelphia.

This is certainly an interesting transaction and we shall
be pleased if you will advise us of the complete nature of
it as soon as your investigation is completed.
We have heard nothing further about the $9,000,000
transaction, regarding which you advised the Secretary some
ten days ago. You no doubt noticed that there was $4,000,000
in gold shipped to New York at the end of last week for account

of the Italian Government. It is just possible that this may
be part of that same transaction.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) D. W. BELL

Under Secretary of the Treasury

Honorable J. Edgar Hoover,

Director,
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
United States Department of Justice,
Washington, D. C.

MAILED

6

6

BY SPEC. MESSENGER
FILE TO
COPY TO
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June 6. 1940

Dear Mr. Hoovert

The Secretary has turned over to me for acknowledgment

your letter of June 4. 1940, furnishing information concerning
a transaction between the German Consulate General in New York

and the Women's Foreign Missionary Society of the Methodist
Episcopal Church at Philadelphia.

This is certainly an interesting transaction and we shall
be pleased if you will advise us of the complete nature of
it as soon as your investigation is completed.
We have heard nothing further about the $9,000,000
transaction, regarding which you advised the Secretary some
ten days ago. You no doubt noticed that there was $4,000,000
in gold shipped to New York at the end of last week for account

of the Italian Government. It is just possible that this may
be part of that same transaction.

Sincerely yours,
(Signed) D. W. BELL

Under Secretary of the Treasury

Honorable J. Edgar Hoover,

Director,
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
United States Department of Justice,
Washington, D. C.

DWB:ce

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June 6, 1940

My dear Mr. Hoovert

I take pleasure in acknowledging with
thanks the following communications which have
been received from you quite recently

May 29 - E. C. Atkins Co (saw mfgs tra.)

May 31 - Maritine Unions on the Atlantic
seaboard

June 1 - Correspondents for the New York
Times and the New York Post
in Mexico

whim
June 1 - The family of King Leopold of
Belgium)
June

3

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to enton 9/19/40

Funds for the German Consulate
General in New York

Yours sincerely,
(Signed) H

Mr. J. Edgar Reover, Director,
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
Department of Justice.

given

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June 6, 1940

My dear Mr. Hoover:

I take pleasure in acknowledging with
thanks the following communications which have
been received from you quite recently:
May 29 - E. C. Atkins
May 31 - Maritime Unions on the Atlantic
seaboard

June 1 - Correspondents for the New York
Times and the New York Post
in Mexico

June 1 - The family of King Leopold of
Belgium

June 3 - Funds for the German Consulate
General in New York

Yours sincerely,
H.

Morgentheu.ru

Mr. J. Edgar Hoover, Director.
Federal Bureau of Investigation,
Department of Justice.

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June 6, 1940

by dear Mr. Hoovers

I take pleasure in acknowledging with
thanks the following communications which have
been received from you quite recently:
May 29 - E. C. Atkins
May 31 - Maritine Unions on the Atlantic
seaboard

June 1 - Correspondents for the New York
Times and the New York Post
is Mexico

June 1 - The family of King Leepeld of
Belgium

June 3 - Funds for the German Consulate
General in New York

Yours sincerely.
(Segued) H.

Mr. J. Edgar Hoover, Director.
Federal Jureau of Investigation,
Department of Justice.

JOHN EDGAR HOOVER

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DIRECTOR

Federal Surrau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
Washington, B. C.

PERSONAL AND

CONFIDENTIAL

May 29, 1940

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I am transmitting herewith, as
of possible interest to you, a copy of a
memorandum dated May 28, 1940, containing

information with regard to apparent
sabotage efforts in the plant of the

E. C. Atkins Company, saw manufacturers,

402 South Illinois Street, Indianapolis,
Indiana.

Sincerely yours,

I edgead Hoover
Inclosure

JOHN EDGAR HOOVER
DIRECTOR

Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
Washington, D.C.
May 28, 1940
KEMORANDUK

Information has been received from an official of the
3. C. Atkins Company, saw manufacturers, 402 South Illinois

Street, Indianapolis, Indiana, to the effect that large planers

used in manufacturing saws at this plant were injured during
recent weeks by use of blasting sand. It is reported that
these injuries apparently resulted from deliberate efforts at
sabotage. It is further reported that recently some unknown
individual apparently applied enery dust to a number of expensive dies used in the plant, which resulted in considerable

injury to the dies.

It is reported that the above company manufactures
metal S&WS which are frequently supplied to the Army and the
Navy on contract, although no Army or Navy contracts are
possessed at the present time. The company also manufactures
saws for use by the Allison Engineering Company of Indianapolis,
the latter company being engaged in manufacturing high-speed

airplane motors for the United States Army Air Corps. It is

reported that the E. C. Atkins Company also manufactures metal

clutch plates, possessing a large contract with the Allison

Engineering Company for the manufacture of such plates.

The official mentioned has advised that a number of
mechanics and semiskilled mechanics of German descent and

sympathy are employed in the plant of the E. C. Atkins Company,

at least six of these being suspected in connection with the
above apparent sabotage efforts.

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JOHN EDGAR HOOVER
DIRECTOR

363

Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
Washington, D.C.

Ree'd 3/40
gain

May 31, 1940

PERSONAL AND

CONFIDENTIAL

The Honorable

20 be ade's

The Secretary of the Treasury

Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

As a matter of interest to you, the following information relative to possible planned interference with
shipping from East Coast ports of this country, has been
received by this Bureau.
A confidential informant has advised that the
Maritime Unions, which are members of the Congress of

Industrial Organizations on the Atlantic Seaboard, are
controlled by those members who are affiliated with the

Communist Party, and that in approximately two months they

plan on completely tying up all shipping from Atlantic
Coast ports, by a gigantic strike.

This information is alleged to have come from
entirely reliable persons within the organizations, who
stated that the action contemplated was instigated in
foreign lands for the purpose of embarrassing the Allies
as much as possible. It is expected to be a bitter and
bloody strike, well planned and executed. A meeting, the
exact whereabouts of which was unknown, was reported in

progress to further formulate the plans for this strike, on
the night of May 13, 1940.

I shall advise you immediately of any additional
information along these lines which comes to my attention.
Sincerely yours,

John

type
Edgar Hoover Hoover
Director

JOHN EDGAR HOOVER
DIRECTOR

Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
Washington, D.C.
May 31, 1940

PERSONAL AND

CONFIDENTIAL

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury

Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

As a matter of interest to you, the following in-

formation relative to possible planned interference with
shipping from East Coast ports of this country, has been
received by this Bureau.

A confidential informant has advised that the
Maritime Unions, which are members of the Congress of

Industrial Organisations on the Atlantic Seaboard, are
controlled by those members who are affiliated with the
Communist Party, and that in approximately two months they

plan on completely tying up all shipping from Atlantic
Coast ports, by a gigantic strike.

This information is alleged to have come from
entirely reliable persons within the organizations, who
stated that the action contemplated was instigated in
foreign lands for the purpose of embarrassing the Allies
as much as possible. It is expected to be a bitter and
bloody strike, well planned and executed. A meeting, the
exact whereabouts of which was unknown, was reported in

progress to further formulate the plans for this strike, on
the night of May 13, 1940.

I shall advise you immediately of any additional
information along these lines which comes to my attention.
Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover

Director

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JOHN EDGAR HOOVER
DIRECTOR

365
Federal Surran of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
fashington, B. C.

June 1, 1940

PERSONAL AND
CONFIDENTIAL

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I thought you would be interested
in knowing that the attitude of the Mexican
Government towards foreigners in Mexico is
becoming increasingly strict. I have been
informed by a thoroughly reliable source that
the Mexican Government is considering at the
present time deporting correspondents for the
New York Times and New York Post because of
recent articles which these correspondents
have written about conditions in Mexico.
with kind personal regards, I am,
Sincerely yours,

I edgan Hoover

JOHN EDGAR HOOVER
DIRECTOR

366
Federal Surrau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
Washington, D. C.

June 1, 1940

PERSONAL AND

CONFIDENTIAL

The Honorable

The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.

Rec'd

ity dear Mr. Secretary:

I thought that you would be interested in the infor-

nation contained in the following teletype message received
from the New York, New York, Field Division of this Bureau
relative to the reported movement of the children of King
Leopold of Belgium to this country:
"Information received May 31, 1940, from a confidential
informant that the two children of the King of Belgium
are expected to leave Europe departing from Lisbon,
Portugal, on the Clipper Airship for the United States

and that upon arrival in the United States they will
stay with Luiwig Wilhelm Bayern who according to

information which has been verified is the 'Duke of
Bavaria. Bayern is expected to obtain use of the

estate of Joseph E. Davies on Long Island as residence

for the King's children. The confidential informant

has advised that she has on numerous occasions overheard John de Braganza and Duchess of Bavaria speaking

very violently in favor of Hitler, that Duke of
Bavaria is also apparently strongly pro-Hitler al-

though he has not been so expressive as foregoing
persons. Duke of Bavaria has been receiving mail from
abroad for the past several months in care of John de
Braganza although the Duke has a regular address at
the Hyde Park Hotel, New York City. John de Braganza
is the son of Princess Miguel de Braganza, former
Anita Stewart, daughter of William Rhinelander Stewart.

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The Secretary

of the Treasury

-2-

"The Princess is reputed to be one of the twelve
wealthiest women in the country. Information appeared

in the New York Daily News that there were unconfirmed

reports that the three children of King Leopold of

Belgium were aboard the American Clipper due at 7:30

a.m. May 31, 1940, from Lisbon. Efforts will be made
to determine the accuracy of these reports."

In this connection, an article appeared in the
evening edition of the Washington Times-Herald newspaper of
May 31, 1940, which stated that the Pan American plane on

which these children are reported to be traveling was forced
to land at Bermuda because of bad weather and will not arrive
at
LaGuardia Field in New York City until about 3:00 p.m.
today.
I shall, of course, advise you immediately of any
further developments in regard to this matter.
Sincerely yours,

I cigar Hoover

368

No. 99

American Foreign Service, Hanoi, Indochina,
June 6, 1940.

Subject:

Prohibition against the
Exportation of Trucks.

The Honorable

The Secretary of State,
Washington.
Sir:

I have the honor to refer to my despatches nos. 88 and 91 of

May 17 and 22, 1940, in regard to the prohibition against the
exportation of trucks from Indochina and reporting the subsequent

partial relaxing of the prohibition. I have now to report that the
Government General of Indochina has permitted a further 100 Chinese

government-owned trucks to leave the country. On the other hand,

it has been ascertained that all of the 234 boxes containing
trucks and parts have not been permitted to be transshipped to
Rangoon, as was reported in despatch no. 91.

In explanation of this, it would appear that there was some
misunderstanding as to what some of the 234 boxes contained. The
Government General was under the impression, apparently as a

result of statements by the Chinese, that the boxes contained only

parts of trucks. the remaining parts of which had already been
transshipped to Rangoon. As a matter of fact, some of the 234 boxes
(and other boxes at Haiphong) contained chassis and motors which
could be assembled at Haiphong. These the Government General have
detained

369

-2detained at Haiphong, permitting only those boxes to be trans-

shipped which have been verified to contain only parts of trucks
and accessories.

CONFIDENTIAL I have ascertained that the Government General

has not been entirely impartial in the application of the prohibition
and in its administration. During the period when there was a complete
prohibition against the Chinese forwarding trucks to China or to
Rangoon and subsequently when only small lots of trucks were being

authorized exportation, the Indochina-Tunnan Railway was (and is)

carrying from 2 to 4 Renault Diesel trucks daily.
If the Chinese-owned American trucks are prohibited exportation,

because of the possibility that they may be needed by the military,
there appears to be no reason why the Chinese-owned French trucks

should not likewise be detained in Indochina. However, as the
Secretary General of the Government General has stated that all

possible consideration will be given to the Chinese, I hope that the
apparent inequality of treatment between Chinese-owned American and

Chinese-owned French trucks will be soon done away with. In any
event, the most important exportation to China, gasoline and
petroleum products, is proceeding normally.
Respectfully yours,
For the Consul at Saigon,

Charles S. Reed II.
American Consul.

In triplicate to the Department (By air mail)
Copies to the Embassy, Chungking and Peiping
Copies to Consulates General, Hongicong and Shanghai
Copies to Consulates, Kunming and Saigon
815.4
CSR:car

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

370

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE June 6, 1940
TO

Mrs. Klots

FROM

Mr. White

Pursuant to instructions from the Secretary via Lieutenant McKay,

I got in touch with Mr. Currie to find out what it was that he wanted.
He told me that he was perturbed over an article by Flynn, which ap-

peared in this morning's Wall Street Journal. (A copy of the article

is appended.) The article, he claimed was quite misleading and he was
desirous of acquainting the Secretary with the facts of the case.

According to Currie, the facts were as follows:
1. Senator Lee called Jerome Frank and asked if he could discuss

his bill with him. Jerome Frank said it would have to be authorized
by the President. Frank then requested authorization from the President,
which was granted. Frank then suggested to Lee that the latter should
also consult Currie. Lee thereupon called Currie and requested an
interview with Frank and Currie. This interview took place June 4.
2. In this conference Frank and Currie pointed out what they
considered to be various defects in the Lee proposal. At the conclusion of the conference Lee said that he was prepared to abandon his
proposal and asked if he might sponsor a bill that would be acceptable
to the Administration. Currie said that he would attempt to ascertain
the President's wishes in the matter. There were no commitments of any

other kind made.

3. Currie reported the outcome of the conference to the President
and was authorized by the President to canvass the views of the
Treasury, Federal Reserve, and SEC, in order to ascertain whether
agreement might be reached on a plan which he could then consider.

4. Senator Lee, without waiting to hear from Currie, gave a story
to Alfred Flynn, which appeared in the Wall Street Journal June 6th.
5. Currie immediately called the President's attention to the
story and suggested to him that he (Currie) be authorized to call Lee
and tell him that the President had decided to take no action on war
finance at this time, and that he (Lee) should call Flynn and make it
clear that the conference was at his (Lee's) request to discuss
his (Lee's) bill and that no commitments of any kind have been made.

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Division of Monetary
Research

6. The President approved of Currie's suggestion.

Unless I hear from you to the contrary, I will presume that
nothing further is to be done on the matter.

Attachment

372

Income Draft for War Loans
New Dealers Preparing Bill to Conscript
Percentage of Earnings for Use in Emergency
BY ALFRED P. FLYNN
Staff Correspondent of The Wall Street Journal

WASHINGTON-Ne legislation for the

crafting of a percentage of individual incomes
over $1,000 as forced government loans in time
of war is being written by key New Deal advisers.

[This proposed legislation has nothing
to do with the tax program now being con-

sidered by Congress Story on Page 3.1

The legislation will be offered in the Senate

8 substitute for the pending Lee bill which
provides for forced loans to the "government
based upon the relative wealth of individuals

The Lee bill has been approved by the milltary affairs committee and is now pending before the Senate for consideration.

There has been some talk of puehing a
forced loan bill through Congress before adScurnment Proponents feel, however, that such
a measure may await the next regular session
with complete safety.

It was disclosed yeaterday that Securities
and Exchange Chairman Jerome Frank and
Lauchlin Currie, special assistant to President
Roomevelt on economic problema, are working

it comes up in Congress. Senator Lee (Dem.
Okla. and other interested senators said yesterday they had no official confirmation of this
from the President
Administration officials, including Secretary
Morgenthau, and Army and Navy officials opposed the enactment of the Lee bill in its present form largely because it was too indefinite
in its terms relating to the basis for the forced
loans. It was explained by Secretary Morgenthau that Inasmuch as the term "wealth" which
is used as the basis for the drafting of money
under the Lee bill, is subject to a number of
definitions, the legislation would be difficult to
administer without some indication of the intent of Congress as to the things or objects
classified as "wealth."

This same objection was raised by Chairman Frank and Mr. Currie in several recent
conferences with Senator Lee on the legialation. Therefore, the New Deal officials proposed to Senator Lee that they be permitted
to write a substitute which will be based on the
"income" of individuals rather than "wealth
Such a change. the officials told the Senator.
would have a two-fold purpose:

on the new measure

While there appears little doubt that the
new bill will have Administration backing when

1. It would be easier to administer
2. By forcing a loan on part of the inPlease turn to page 3, column 1

Income Draft Bill
Continued from First Page
come of individuals the government would

.

be in a position to hold prices nearer normal and prevent a wartime inflation boom
Senator Lee declared that be was in com.

plete accord with the proposal of the New
Dealers and was prepared to offer their finished product as a substitute for his bill which
would draft wealth. However, according to
the Senator, a bill to draft money for financing
war by the United States, based on income of
individuals would not raise as much as his proposal to tap the total wealth of individuals
Therefore, he is prepared to offer the New
Deal measure as a first step. believing that it
later will be necessary to extend its terms to
cover savings and other forms of wealth
Draft To Be Ready This Session
Senator Lee said that Chairman Frank and
Mr. Currie have told him that they will com-

plete the writing of the new bill so that it may
be offered at this seasion.

The present Lee bill provides that the net
wealth of every citizen of the United States and
every alien residing in the U. S. shall be subject

to the borrowing power of the U. S. on a basis
ranging from 5% of wealth in excess of $1,000

and not in excess of $10,000. to 75% of the

wealth of individuals in excess of $100,000,000
On $100,000,000 of wealth held by an individual

the Treasury could force a loan of $64,456,950

In return for funds borrowed under the bill

the Treasury would issue 50-year bonds bearing

interest rate of not more than one per cent. per

annum.

373

June 6, 1940
4:30 p.m.

Philip
Young:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Y:

All right.

H.M.Jr:
Y:

H.M.Jr:

Is Mrs. Klotz there?
Yes, she is here.

Well, put her on, then you can listen.

Y:

She's on.

H.M.Jr:

Mrs. Klotz.

Mrs. Klotz:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

O. K. I talked to Admiral Stark myself

because I didn't want to let it go and the
orders went out late last night for these
50 ships and they're all in the air today

proceeding to Buffalo.
Mrs. K:

Good.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Mrs. K:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Now, they find that the name of the United
States Navy 18 on some of the stuff and they
may take some of the stuff off. Now, I
don't know whether the Allied Purchasing
Mission has got anybody in Buffalo, but the

planes will certainly begin to pile in there
today. What is Purvis doing about having

people there to begin to fly them to Halifax?
Mrs. K:
H.M.Jr:

I see.

I mean, Stark has done a magnificent job. Those

orders went out last night and the stuff is
rolling into Buffalo today.

-2Mrs. K:

Well,

H.M.Jr:

I'm just -- this 18 for Phil.

P:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

P:

H.M.Jr:

374

So you get busy and tell him that he ought
to have people there the very first thing
tomorrow morning to take care of his end.

Right. They'11 be there.
And, also, to see what equipment they take
off and what's missing. He talked about
taking certain stuff off and getting it
replaced from the Army or the manufacturer,
and he'd better have some capable people up

P:

H.M.Jr:

there -- if he has any such people.
Yes, sir.
And -- now, the other thing I asked him
about -- these machine guns, Thompsons. It's
just as I thought, what they' re worring about
is the money going into the general fund, and
I asked him whether he wouldn't give that a

look himself, and I want a memorandum not later
than 10:00 o'clock tomorrow morning to give the
President on these Thompsons guns and if it's

this -- how it can be done. See? Hello.

P:

H.M.Jr:

P:

Yes, sir.
How it can be done, and 1f it's just a question
that they lose the money, let the President
decide the so-called losing it by going into
the general fund, let him say yes or no.

Well, I just finished talking with Ed and he
says it cannot be done except under the new
legislation.
turn

H.M.Jr:

Well, why can't they/them into the Army?

P:

Because they are new guns and the Army under

that Statute can only get rid of the guns

which were in its possession back in 1919 -the World War stuff.

375

-3H.M.Jr:

Oh.

Y:

These are brand-new guns.

H.M.Jr:

But if the Navy said they're surplus, I understood they were not brand-new guns.

Y:

Yes, but I understand they are. Maybe I'm

mistaken. I'll check on it again.
H.M.Jr:
Y:

H.M.Jr:
Y:

H.M.Jr:

I thought they were not.
The Thompson guns are new. The other guns

which the Navy offered are old.
Well, what about those?

We can get those. Well, there's some difficulty
but we can get them, I think, all right.
Well, let's move on those.

Y:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

And I -- but the ones the President is

particularly interested in are Thompsons.

Y:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

See?

Y:

And we have to wait for the new legislation
on those.

H.M.Jr:

And you're not going to forget about the 2,000
Jacobs engines.

Y:

No, sir.

H.M.Jr:

But, I just wanted to let you know that those
planes are arriving in Buffalo today and it's
up to Arthur Purvis to have people there to
fly them to Halifax. We've done our job.

Y:

Right.

376

-4
H.M.Jr:
Y:

And you take care of Purvis tonight, please.

Yes, sir. I certainly shall.

H.M.Jr:

That's all. I want to make a record of this -if Mrs. Klotz will go back to her office, I
would like to talk to her, please.

Mrs. K:

Right.

H.M.Jr:

Good-night.

Y:

Good-night.

a is the p1cOce of the 50 dive bombers
that are going to the Allies.

317

Date June 6/40

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF
COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE
ADDRESS REPLY TO

ONER or INTERNAL REVENUE
AND REFER TO

IT:P:CA

June 7, 1940.

CAA

REPORT FOR SECRETARY MORGENTHAU:

In regard to closing agreements under the Vinson-Trammell
Act, the developments during the week were as follows:

Consolidated Aircraft Corporation:

The contractor filed a letter requesting a certain revision
of the existing closing agreement and a further agreement in regard

to additional facilities.

July Holdering
Commissioner's

379

if

IT:P:CA

June 7. 1940.

CAA

REPORT FOR SECRETARY MORGENTHAU,

In regard to closing agreements under the Vineon-Yymmell
Act, the developments during the week were as follows

Consolidated Aircraft Corporation

The contractor filled a letter requesting a certain revision

of the existing closing agreement and a further agreement in regard

to additional facilities.

(Signed) Guy T. Heivering

Commissioner.

CAA/NEA

380

4.40

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

381

OF NEW YORK

OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE
CONFIDENTIAL FILES
TO

L. W. Knoke

FROM

DATE

June 7, 1940.

SUBJECT: TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH
BANK OF CANADA.

Mr. Turk called at 10:30 o'clock this morning. Here
tofore, he said, the Canadian control had done its frane business
via New York, that
is, if francs were needed by the market the
furnished
Canadian control had/United States dollars and permitted the
purchase of francs with these dollars in the New York market.
Beginning today the Canadian control would deal in

French francs and quote the official rate of 250 8/4 bid and

253 1/4 offered. These official rates for the franc are based

on their official rate of 445 for the dollar and the official
cross rate between London and Paris of 176 5/8. Mr. Gordon
would probably write us but Mr. Turk wanted us to know about

this procedure without delay.

LWK:KW

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GRAY

Milan

Dated June 7, 1940
REC'D 1:16 P. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

59, June 7, 6 P. M.
Today's market index 221.80. Volume (#).

Practically all prices increased in moderate
trading possibly influenced by improved quotations
of British and French currency.
SCHNARE

(#) apparent omission
HPD

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MA

CORRECTED COPY

GRAY

Milan

Dated June 7, 1940
REC'D 1:16 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

59, June 7, 6 p.m.
Today's market index 221.80. Volume 76000.

Practically all prices increased in moderate
trading possibly influenced by improved quotations
of British and French currency.
SCHNARE
HPD

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385
BUREAU OF FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC COMMERCE

OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

June 7, 1940
From

DIRECTOR

To

Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

For

Sent at the request of
Mr. Noble, Under Secretary of
Commerce.

Johns
milgoing
Director.
James W. Young,

June 6, 1940

386

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS

GENERAL BUSINESS ACTIVITY exhibited no clearly defined trend in May.

The intensity of the German drive produced several dramatic developments in the domestic economic scene; deflationary forces were
intermingled with signs of improvement in particular areas. But

the net effect of the month's changes is difficult to appraise.

INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION gave the clearest indication of a business up-

turn with the Reserve Board's index rising from 102 in April to
105 (preliminary) in May. At the end of the month it was up to
108. Even here the reaction to intensified warfare was not consistent. The advance in May was limited largely to steel output
which increased sharply from 60 to 77 percent of capacity during
the month. While lumber production increased contrasessonally
and paper and pulp made a little further advance after April's
large rise, automobile production nd probably the important cotton textile industry were down. Heavy industries-shipbuildin
aircraft, machinery, machine tools, and railroad equipment-probebly held firm. Only sign that production advance may have a broader
base was the rise in carloadings.
EXAMPLES:

Industrial

Steel Ingot

Automobile

Production

Production

Production

(% Capacity)

(Thousands)

(1923-25=100)

April 27

102

May

103

4

.

11

104

.

18

106

25

107

.

June 1

108

60.0
61.8
65.8
70.0
73.0
76.9

Carloadings
(Thousands)

101

645

99

666

98

681

99

679

97

687

61

635 (E)

SIGNIFICANCE: Rise in Board's index (heavily weighted by steel)
not characteristic of business developments. Emphasis belongs

not only on the rise in steel activity, but also on the fact

that nearly everything else, including the important motor and
textile industries, held steady or declined. We feel the monthly
index of income payments which declined substantially in April,
continued to fall in May.

BUSINESS PURCHASING was not stepped up on a broad scale during May,

according to the limited information now available. Steel orders
undoubtedly increased markedly, in part because of a rise in expart demand following the loss of North European sources to the
Allies. In April new orders for all manufacturing rose approxisately 7 percent and just about equaled the volume of shipments

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in that month. We do not have indications that there was a significent increase above this volume during May. In fast, trade reparts from consumer goods industries indicate a slackening in in-

dustrial demand. Nonferrous notals have picked up only moderately,
and textile buying has been upset by price movements.
A DRASTIC DECLINE IN SECURITY AND SENSITIVE COMMODITY PRICES signalled

most clearly the bearish interpretation placed upon war events dur-

ing May. Stock market quotations were scaled down to mid-1938
levels, and bond prices also dropped. Hardest hit among the commdities were farm products import commodities, which jumped most

sharply on first news of the invesion of the Low countries, fall
below their early May quotations while industrial raw materials
lost only their early May advance. After May 23 there was little
further
decline
any
major
market.but no substantial buying strength developed in
EXAMPLES:

May 9

May 10

June 5

Dow-Jones:

Industrial stocks
Corporate bonds

148

145

113

89.6

88.7

83.6

114.7
121.4

117.5
123.0

109.4
107.5

112.8
116.4

115.6
121.1

113.0
112.5

Bureau Labor Statistics:
Spot commodity index.

Agricultural products..

Industrial raw m
terials.

Import commodities

SIGNIFICANCE Expectations that intensifiestion of the war
would bring a business uptura were evidenced by the quick rise
of prices on May 10. The generally unexpected strength of the
German attack, however, brought a #peace scare". The markets

feared possible early defeat of the Allies and the deflationary
impact which would result through drastic ourtailment of our
export trade. The decline in prices of farm products also
threatens to reduce farm income as this year's crops start to

move heavily to market.

Liquidation which reduced the quoted value of stocks listed on
the New York Stock Exchange by $10 billion in May has already
acted as a brake upon consumption. Retail sales of passenger

care were restricted after the first 10 days of the months total

May sales now estimated at 7 percent under April. Department
sture sales declined during the latter half of May and by the
end of the month were no higher than a year ago.

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FOREIGN TRADE NOTES

Italy: The economic situation in Italy is revealed by the following items:
The sale of meat is now prohibited during 4 days of the week, There
is a scarcity of fresh vegetables, accompanied by very high prices.
In view of the dependence of Italy on the Scandinavian countries for

cellulose, it is believed that the Italian production of synthetic

textile fibers will have to be cut down by approximately 80 to 90
percent. This would not only affect the domestic situation, but also
the trade balance, since the exportation of rayon yarn and textiles
constitutes a considerable favorable item in the Italian trade.

The burden of taxation in Italy is shown by the price of gasoline in
Venice. The original price of $27.59 per ton, CIF Venice, is increased
by various taxes to $285.75, or a little over 14 cents a pint.
United Kingdom On account of the threatened disruptions of food supplies,
the country has been divided into 17 divisional and 800 local selfcontained food areas, which are expected to support themselves for

several weeks from local central depots. It is expected that an effort

will soon be made to obtain from the United States certain food supplies
valuable under emergency conditions, such as processed milk, cheese,
lard, and certain canned goods.

Spain: The food situation in Spain is becoming very serious, particularly
as regards such staples as bread, sugar, and oil. A ration of 250

grame of bread per person per day was established auto March 15, and

has since been cut in half. The shortage of grain has been explained
as a result of civil war destruction, involving the loss of machinery
and animals, a scarcity of seed, and the inability of the farmers to
work under war conditions. Shile a certain amount of rationing was

expected after the cessation of hostilities, it is rather significant
that the situation has become worse more than a year after the war.

Germany: A shortage of beer and cigarettes is reported. The more expensive
cigarettes disa peared from the market some time ago, and now a growing shortage has developed in the cheaper grades, retailers selling
only one package of 5 or 10 cigarettes to a customer at a time. Long

queus are observed in front of tobacc stores. It is understood that
the army is requisitioning a large share of the cigarette output for
its own use. The shortage of beer is attributed to the desire to

save barley.

Chile: German firms representing American tire and automobile manufacturers
have withdrawn their advertising from a well known English language

weekly as well as from a Chilean daily with pro-Ally tendencies.
treau of Foreign and Domestic Commerce,
one 5, 1940.

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THE BORTHERS OUTLOOK Near term prespects for general business

must remain morrain unless there is marked improvement in

the Allied military position. Market behavior last month
demonstrated that defiationary potentialities in the event
of a quick German victory are very strong. Time the possi-

bility of a business dealine because of reduced exports and

inventory liquidation (quite heavy in April) can net be ruled

out. National defense program probably can not be accelerated
fast enough during the next 3 months to offect these depressing influences should the war end.

For the longer term, however, and even for the short term if
the battle front becomes stabilized, net government expenditures
will be sufficiently large to induce economic expansion. Given
time for the defense program to get into full using, the donestic
business situation will be strong enough to stand considerable
sheek from'shood.

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22782
WEEKLY KHOLESALE PRICE INDEXES

1939

Group

June
3

commodities
Farm products
Foods

All commodities other than
farm products and foods
Hides and leather products.
Textile products.

Fuel and lighting materials'
Metals and metal products
Building materials.

Chemicals & allied products'
House-furnishing goods
Miscellaneous
Raw materials

Semimanufactured articles
Finished products

75.7
63.1
67.5

80.6
92.6

June 3,

Aug. 26,

1939

1939

Sept.

26

16

25

74.8
61.1
66.7

79.3
69.7
75.5

77.8
66.8
70.7

77.8
67.8
70.8

80.4
92.6
67.4
73.2
93.5
89.7

82.7
101.4
72.4
72.4
94.7
92.6
76.6
89.9
77.4

82.5
100.5
72.2
72.3
94.7
92.5
76.6
89.9
76.9

2.4
8.5
7.9

71.0
78.1
81.3

71.4
78.0
81.1

4.7

(1)

(1)

86.9
73.8

87.0
73.1

68.2
74.1
79.9

66.2
74.4
79.3

73.0
82.0
82.3

93.5
89.2

June

Aug.

82.4
98.3
71.4
74.1
94.9
90.7
(1)
87.1
76.1

66.9
74.1

Percentage increase,
June 1. 1940 from

1940
May

1

(1) Comparable data not available.

Source: U. S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics.

2.8

7.4
4.9

2.4
1.3
3.7
3.5

4.2

5.3
1.5

4.0
11.0
6.1

2.6
8.5
7.1
1.2
1.3

3.1
3.3
5.2
7.9
4.8
2.3

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SELECTED COMMODITY PRICE SERIES

1939
Commodity

oper, electrolytic,
New York

1940

Unit
June 7

. per 1b.

ad, prompt shipment,

do

Inc, New York

abber, plantation,

des, light native
cows, Chicago.

11k, 13-15 denier,
78% seriplane, N.Y.

otton, middling, average, 10 markets.

$

tures, New York.

49 3/4
16 13/16

do

10 7/8

11

coa, Accra, New York
offee, Santos, No. 4,
New York

rd, cash, Chicago.
ottonseed oil, July
1940 futures, N. Y.
heat, July 1940 futures, Chicago
age, good and choice,

11 1/2

5.00
6.39

5.00
6.64

75

54

22 1/2

20 3/4

54 3/8
21 1/2
10 1/2

15

1b.

2.71

2.72

3.21

2.75

2.65

per

1b.

9.56

8.53

9.01

10.06

9.87

per

yd.

4 3/8

4 5/8

5 3/8

per 1b.12/82.0

3/81.5

5/8

/111.9

4 1/2
95.0

88.3

do

2.85
4.35

2.92
4.38

3.70
6.45

2.75
4.92

2.70
4.75

do

7 1/2

7 5/8

7 3/4

7 1/4

do

6.25

5.65

7.75

5.10

7 1/4
5.07

do

6.59

3/

5.61

7.30

6.05

5.95

.75 1/2'3

.67

do

$ per bu.

220-240 lbs. Chicago's per cwt. 6.55

Beers, beef, medium,

750-1,100 lbs., Chi.

11 1/2

per

gar, raw, 96°, duty
free, New York

5.50
6.64

48 3/4
16 1/2

int cloth, 60 x 64,
38 1/2 inches, N.Y.
col tops, July 1940

5.05
5.14

June 5

May 29

12

do

do

n, straits, New York

10 1/2

10

4.75
4.84

do

New York

Sept. 13

August 30

do

8.25

1/4'3

.85

3/8

.83

3/8

.79 3/8

6.88

8.13

5.45

5.40

8.38

8.88

9.00

8.63

Nominal 2/ July 1939 futures. 3/ December 1939 futures. w Hogs weighing 220-250 lbs
Not available.

purcest All commodities, with the exception of wool tops, cottonseed oil, hogs, and steer
taken from the Journal of Commerce; wool tops and cottonseed oil are taken from the Wall
treet Journal, and hogs and steers are from the U. S. Department of Agriculture, Bureau of
ricultural Economics.

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COMPOSITE PRICES OF PIG IRON, STEEL SCRAP, AND FINISHED STEEL

Pig Iron 1

Steel Scrap 2/

Finished Steel 3/

Date

(Dollars per gross ton)

(Cents per pound)

1939:

June 6
August 29
September 19
October 3

20.61
20.61
22.61
22.61

,

14.58
15.62
19.25
22.50

2.236
2.236
2.236
2.236

18.17
18.58

2.261
2.261

,

1940:

1

June 4

22.61
22.61

,

May 28

1/ Based upon average for basic iron at Valley furnace and foundry
iron at Chicago, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Valley and Southern iron
at Cincinnati.

2 Based upon No. 1 heavy melting steel quotations at Pittsburgh,
Philadelphia, and Chicago.

3/ Based upon steel bars, beams, tank plates, wire, rails, black pipe,
sheets and hot-rolled strip. These products represent 85 percent
of the United States output.
Source: The Iron Age.

BIO INN

M

1

of

OFFICE

IS

22

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE JUN 6 - 1940
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau

Mr. Foley

In accordance with the request contained in Mr. Thompson's
memorandum of December 26, 1939, there is attached a summary report of

studies or projects carried on in the Office of the General Counsel for
the month of May, 1940.

firth
Attachment

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SUMMARY REPORT ON STUDIES OR PROJECTS IN
THE OFFICE OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL MAY 1940

The following matters received attention in the Office of the Chief
Counsel for the Bureau of Internal Revenue:

1. Income Tax - French Convention. In cooperation with Deputy
Commissioner King and the Staff of the Joint Committee on Internal
Revenue Taxation, there has been prepared for the information of the
Foreign Relations Committee of the Senate a memorandum explaining the

provisions of the proposed United States-France tax convention.
2. Income Tax - Bed Debt Deduction by Banks Upon Complete Worthless-

ness Regardless of Previous Partial Charge-Off. Study has been given
to a proposal to amend the regulations so as to allow to banks a deduc-

tion with respect to bad debts for the year in which the total worthlessness of the items is ascertained and a final charge-off is made,

regardless of partial charge-offs made in prior years at the direction
of Federal or State banking authorities, and not previously deducted
for gross income.

3. Income Tax - Proposal to Amend Merchant Marine Act of 1936 so as
to Provide for the Nonrecognition of Certain Income by Reason of the
Maintenance of a Construction Reserve Fund. There has been under
consideration the proposed amendment of the "Merchant Marine Act of

1936" (Title V, Sec. 511), which would have the following operative
effects:

(a) To render nonrecognizable gains reflected in the sale,
or the receipt of indemnity with respect to the loss
of a vessel to the extent that the proceeds so realized
are deposited in a construction reserve fund;

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-2(b) To provide a gain or loss and depreciation basis with
respect to the new vessel acquired by application of
such reserve fund reduced by the gain not recognized;
(c) To exempt from the excess-profits tax and Sec. 102 tax
such operating profits of the owner of the vessel as are
deposited in the construction reserve fund; and

(d) To subject to taxation at a later date, and as of the year
in which the income accrued, such income reflected in such

deposits to the extent that such deposits are not, within
six years from the date of the deposit, applied in the financing of new construction or in the acquisition of new
vessels.

The amendment would be made applicable with respect to taxable
years beginning after December 31, 1939. The Department has conferred with the Maritime Commission and there has been prepared and

submitted an unfavorable report to the Bureau of the Budget. The
Department has also been cooperating with the attorneys of the Maritime Commission and with Mr. Beaman in connection with possible
technical amendments of the proposed enactment.

4. Income and Other Taxes - International Aircraft Operations. In
cooperation with State Department and the Civil Aeronautics Authority
representatives, there has been prepared a draft of memorandum to be
addressed to the Secretary General of the League of Nations with

respect to the favorable attitude of this Government toward reciprocal
exemption of income taxes, excise taxes and custom duties arising in

connection with international aircraft operations.
5. Income Tax - Proposed Revision of the Public Salary Tax Act of
1939. Consideration has been given to proposals to amend section 205

of the Act so as to extend the exemption from taxation to State officers

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-3and employees paid directly or indirectly by the United States.
The first proposal in this respect, that advanced by Senator Wiley
in connection with H. J. Res. 407, was covered by a Treasury report
dated March 29, 1940, and was ultimately rejected in the Senate.
There are now pending in Congress three separate bills advancing
similar proposals:
S. 3945, which submits to the Senate precisely the same propo-

sition advanced by Senator Wiley. A report on this bill was forwarded and signed by Acting Secretary on May 20, 1940.

S. 3787 and H. R. 8985, which would limit the application of the

provision of section 205 to compensation paid to officers or enlisted
men of the National Guard or Naval Militia of a state, and officers
or employees of a university, college, or agricultural school. Reports on both of these bills have been forwarded for approval.
6. Income Tax - Cancellation of Indebtedness - Limitation on Reduc-

tion of Basis. In cooperation with the Legislative Counsel of the
House and representatives of the Securities and Exchange Commission,

the Department has given consideration to the preparation of a draft
of amendment of the Bankruptcy Act pursuant to which the reduction of

basis resulting from a discharge of indebtedness in bankruptcy proceedings would be limited by reference to the fair market value of the
assets affected.
7. Income Tax - Proposed Revision of Vinson-Trammell Act. Considera-

tion is being given to the substance and form of H. R. 9822, a proposed

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-4revision of the Vinson-Trammell Act. The bill provides for the
exemption of all contracts not in excess of $25,000 in lieu of the
former provision of $10,000 exemption. The bill also contains provisions to render final certain determinations of the Secretary of
the Navy with respect to the necessity and cost of special additional
facilities and equipment and the proportionment of such costs to

particular contracts. Consideration is being given by the Treasury
Department to suggesting a limitation upon allowable profit in connection with naval and army construction by reference to the proportionate percentage of cost as well as a proportionate percentage of
the contract price as under the present law.
8. Processing Tax - Jurisdiction of the Board of Review and Courts
in Certain Refund Cases. There was prepared and submitted to the
Legislative Counsel a recommendation for the enactment of such statu-

tory revisions as would extend the jurisdiction of the Board of Review, and divest the Court of Claims and the District Courts of juris-

diction of suits for refund, irrespective of when brought, with respect to amounts paid as floor stocks tax, compensating tax, and custom processing tax under the Agricultural Adjustment Act, except such

as will have been finally adjudicated or on which a trial on the
merits will have been commenced prior to the enactment of the revision.

9. Social Security - To Exclude Certain Coverage. Consideration was

given in the Bureau to a draft of legislation proposed by the Railroad
Retirement Board pursuant to which there would be excluded from coverage

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-5under the Railroad Retirement Acts of 1935 and 1937, the Railroad
Unemployment Insurance Act, the Carriers Taxing Act of 1937, and

Subchapter B of Chapter 9 of the Internal Revenue Code, retroactively

and prospectively, certain coal mining operations. A Treasury report
on the draft was forwarded by Acting Secretary Sullivan on May 1.

The Treasury expressed no opinion on the question of the policy of
the proposed enactment. This feature was developed, however, in a

report forwarded to the Bureau of the Budget by the Social Security
Board. Several objections were advanced.
A redraft of the proposed enactment has been prepared in coopera-

tion with the representatives of the Federal Securities Agency and the
Legislative Counsel for the Senate.
10. Stamp Tax - Exemption of Home Owners Loan Corporation Transac-

tions. Study is being given to the question of the possible exemptions of the H. O. L. C. from the stamp tax on conveyances to or from
the corporation in connection with foreclosure proceedings, or in con-

nection with voluntary adjustments in lieu of foreclosure.
11. Miscellaneous Tax - On Dissemination of Racing Information. Con-

sideration is being given to a proposed expansion of the Internal
Revenue Code pursuant to which a tax would be imposed with respect

to the dissemination of racing information.
All of the above matters were handled under the supervision
of G. E. Adams, Head, Legislation and Regulations Division.

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-6The following matters were worked on in the Mint and

Monetary Section under the direction of Mr. Bernstein:
12. Foreign Exchange Control. This office drafted an amendment to
the Executive Order and Regulations extending the provisions thereof
to property of the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and nationals
thereof, and prepared the numerous instructions to Government officers accompanying such Order and Regulations. Subsequent to the
issuance of the amended Order and Regulations, a number of general

licenses were prepared and issued. A considerable amount of work was
done in answering inquiries concerning the Order and Regulations, and

in answering various questions of interpretation of such Order and
Regulations raised by the Federal Reserve banks and individuals. The

office also participated in passing on applications for licenses under
the Order and Regulations. The office worked on an appropriation bill
to provide funds for the execution of the Executive Order and Regula-

tions, and attended hearings with respect to this bill at Budget.
The entire staff worked on the Order, Regulations, general licenses,
inquiries, etc. Messrs. Pehle and Rupert worked on applications for
licenses. Mr. Bernstein attended various conferences with representatives of other departments in connection with problems relating to

the control of foreign funds in this country.
13. Secretary Morgenthau's Gold Speech. Mr. Bernstein worked with
Messrs. Gaston and White in preparation of the Secretary's speech on
gold, which he delivered on May 3, 1940.

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14. Gold Mining Cases. A brief prepared by this office on behalf
of the Government in two gold mining cases in the Court of Claims

was filed by the Department of Justice. These cases involve claims
for additional compensation for newly mined gold which was delivered

in 1933 and paid for at the rate of $20.67 per fine ounce. Mr.
Friedman worked on these cases.

15. Pershing Hall Case. A proposed answer to be filed on behalf
of the Secretary in the suit which has been brought seeking to recover
alleged expenditures made by certain persons in connection with

Pershing Hall, was prepared and transmitted to the United States Attorney. Mr. Mann worked on this case.

The following matter received attention in Mr. Tietjens
section:

16. Application of Executive Orders No. 8389 and No. 8405 dated
April 10 and May 10, respectively. Messrs. Easby and Helvestine have
been working in cooperation with the Monetary and Exchange Section in
connection with the Executive Order of the President of May 10, which

extended the scope of the Executive Order of April 10 to "nationals"
of the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg (referred to in item 12).
All heads of Departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the United
States have been contacted and requested to prepare schedules of all

credits or payments which are being held in this country for "nationals"
of the above countries and also Norway and Denmark. All checks which

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are being held in the Office of the Chief Disbursing Officer will
be listed and from these an effort will be made to fix the cash, or
capitalization value, of all insurance policies, compensation benefits, pensions, or retirement payments, which these monthly checks
represent.

The following matters received attention under the general
supervision of Assistant General Counsel Cairns:

17. Currency and Bearer Securities as Records. An opinion was prepared by Miss Goode on the question whether currency and bearer securi-

ties, including coupons, are "records" within the terms of the Act of
August 5, 1939, and if so, whether blanket authorisation for their
destruction can be obtained from the Archivist. The opinion concludes

that the Act does not apply to currency and bearer securities, including coupons. There was no need, therefore, to answer the question con-

cerning blanket authorization for destruction.
18. Effect Upon Treasurer's Liability of Compromise of Forged Check
Claims. In an opinion prepared by Messrs. Wolf and Folkerth, there

was considered the effect upon the liability of the Treasurer growing
out of his paying a check in good faith and without negligence and the
United States compromises its claim against the person who has presented and received payment of a check bearing a forged endorsement.

The opinion concludes that although the question is not free from
doubt, the effect of a compromise under such circumstances would be to

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relieve the Treasurer from his liability. The opinion assumes,
arguendo, that the Treasurer is liable to the United States in the
first instance for the erroneous payment.
19. Counsel for National Bank Receiver Running for State Political
Office. The question considered was whether J. S. Lairy, General Counsel

for the trust (receivership of the First National Bank of Logansport,
Indiana) may continue to serve as general counsel while a candidate

for a political office in a state election. This opinion, prepared
by Mr. Gilmore, concludes that inasmuch as Mr. Lairy is an indepen-

dent contractor, paid on a fee basis, he is not barred from continuing to render legal services for the receiver.
20. Proposed Notice to Receivers of Insolvent National Bank re

Political Activities of Receivers and Their Employees. As distinguished
from the preceding opinion, this opinion, prepared by Mr. Plumb, expresses the conclusion that such receivers and their employees are
officers and employees in the Executive Branch of the Federal Government for purposes of the Hatch Act.

21. Applicability of Taxes on Transfers of Securities to Sales to or
by Great Britain. Mr. Zarky made a special study of this question and
prepared a memorandum tentatively concluding that international law

forbids the levying of a tax on transaction of Governmental functions

by a foreign sovereignty if the tax or its direct burden falls on that
sovereignty.

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22. Application of Civil Service Act to Employees Paid From
Stabilization Fund. An opinion prepared by Messrs. Gilmore and
Plumb expresses the conclusion that such employees are, by reason

of covering-in Executive Order No. 7916, subject to the Civil Service Act and Rules, with the exception of such employees covered by
the postponement order (No. 8044).

23. Accountability of Certifying Officers. The question dealt
with in this opinion, which was prepared by Mr. Morton, was the au-

thority of the Secretary of the Treasury to enforce accountability
of certifying officers under the provisions of Executive Order No.
6166 of June 10, 1933. The opinion concludes that the certifying

officer is at least as liable to the United States for the full
amount as the disbursing officer, and the certifying officer should

be notified of his liability for the amount involved. The opinion
advises, however, that no further action should be taken at this time.
24. Application of Ramspeck Bill to Officers Whose Appointments Now
Require Senate Confirmation. An opinion prepared by Messrs. Gilmore

and Feidler dealt with the question whether the Ramspeck Bill will au-

thorize the President to cover into the classified civil service
offices appointments to which are now subject to confirmation by the
Senate, and whether the bill will remove the requirement of such confirmation. The conclusion was expressed that such offices may be

covered into the classified civil service, but that appointees will
not enjoy benefits of tenure; and that the bill does not remove the
requirement of Senate confirmation.

403

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404

25. Tax-free Transfer of Harvested Hemp Fiber. Mr. Tennyson,
Chief Counsel, Narcotics, is making a study of the circumstances
under which harvested hemp fiber may be transferred tax free from

the hemp farmer to the decorticating mill.
26. Importation of Poppy Heads for Direct Extraction of Morphine.
Mr. Mitchell of the Narcotics Legal Section worked on a plan to import a supply of poppy heads to enable the importing manufacturers

to test a method for the direct extraction of morphine. The plan has
been discarded for the time being as unsettled conditions in Europe
make it impossible to obtain poppy heads from abroad.
27. Proposed Amendments to the Federal Narcotic Laws. Mr. Lubore

of the Narcotics Legal Section is preparing an extensive analysis of
the situation with a view to demonstrating the necessity of establish-

ing a special tax classification for hospitals. See previous report,
item No. 41.

28. Countervailing Duties. As a result of the study of the Turkish
foreign exchange practices, previously reported upon, it was concluded

that a decision as to the applicability of countervailing duties to inports of Turkish products should be deferred until further information
was obtained. Accordingly, Mr. Everett Smith, of the Customs Legal

Section, prepared and placed in the channels of review a letter to the
Department of State requesting certain specific information believed

to be relevant in this connection.

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- 12 29. Uniform Inter-American Customs Procedures and Nomenclature.

At the request of an Inter-Departmental Committee, of which Mr.

Gaston is the Chairman, Mr. Everett Smith, together with Dr. Henry
Chalmers of the Commerce Department, prepared for the signature of

the Secretary of State a draft of a letter embodying the views of
the United States regarding uniform Inter-American customs procedures and nomenclature. Such letter enclosed a draft of a memorandum entitled "Recommendations of the Pan American Commercial Confer-

ence Held at Buenos Aires in 1935 with Respect to Customs Procedure,

Considered in the Light of the Laws and Practices of the United
States". Both drafts were considered by the Inter-Departmental Committee and, with several amendments, approved. They were also approved by Mr. Basil Harris and Mr. W. R. Johnson.

30. Authority of the Treasury Department Over Protests After the
Expiration of 90 Days from Date of Filing. Mr. Dwan, Chief Counsel,
Customs, made a careful study of this subject and concluded that the
Treasury Department does not lose all authority over such protests
to the Customs Court by the expiration of the statutory 90-day period,

but retains sufficient authority to take action terminating the controversy with the importer. This conclusion was embodied in a letter
to the Collector of Customs at Chicago, Illinois, prepared by Mr. Dwan,
and signed by Acting Secretary Gaston on May 22, 1940.

31. Residence for Customs Purposes. Messrs. Flynn and Chambers of

the Customs legal staff, made a careful study of the claim of an entrant

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to the right to bring in free of duty as a non-resident purchases
made in a foreign country. The entrant had one home in California
and another under construction in Bermuda, the latter being consid-

ered by her as the domicile. As a result of the study, this office
concluded that the residence for customs purposes was Bermuda.

32. Power of Attorney. An exhaustive study was made by Messrs.
Flynn and Chambers of legal authorities and a memorandum was pre-

pared in support of the customs regulation requiring the submission

of a power of attorney by an agent filing a protest to the collector's decision. This study was made as an aid to the Assistant Attorney General in charge of customs matters in the brief to be filed
by him in a case now pending in the Customs Court.
The following project was worked on by Mrs. Campise under

the supervision of Mr. Cox:
33. Installation of a Punch Card System for Keeping Chronological
Records of Employment Status, Educational Background, and Experience

of Legal Personnel. The data have been gathered and coded. The cards

are being punched and will be ready for tabulation as soon as the punching is completed.
Mr. O'Connell, the Treasury representative on the Temporary
National Economic Committee, has submitted the following report on his
project:

34. Monopoly Study. Messrs. O'Connell and Kades are-continuing their

work on this previously reported project.

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The following matters received attention in the Legislative
Section under the direction of Mr. Bernard:
CONTINUATION OF PROJECTS

35. Bills Relative to the Harrison Narcotic Act:
(a) Bill to relieve the hospitals from double taxation

(for description see original report, item 9). This bill, prepared by Miss McDuff, has been returned from Budget with a request

for a further expression of our views in the light of the comments
of the Federal Security Administrator, and is still being considered by the Bureau of Narcotics.

(b) Bill to withdraw registration under the Harrison Act
from persons violating state or Federal narcotic laws (for descrip-

tion see report for January, item 41). The proposed bill, with a
memorandum summarizing its background and legal aspects and request-

ing a policy decision as to whether or not the Department should

sponsor it, is still in the hands of Mr. Gaston.
36. Fidelity Bond Bill (formerly identified as "Bond Survey")

(for further description see original report, item 10). A draft of
our proposed Fidelity Bond Bill and letter of transmittal to Congress were sent to Budget on March 30, 1940. Because of the wide

interest in this bill, copies of it and the letter of transmittal
were disseminated among the various interested agencies, about ten

in all. Replies from some of these agencies have been transmitted

to us by Budget, for our consideration, but not all the replies

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cleared our bill.
In addition to a considerable amount of research work,
which has been completed, to support this bill, we are making an

investigation of the laws and facts concerning the situation
which was referred to by Mr. Henry Deane, representative of the
American Surety Company and the New York Casualty Company, as

the disastrous experience of the State of Nebraska with a State
fidelity bond guaranty fund in the 20's, so that we may be armed

for any attack on this basis against our own bill.
37. Assignment of Claims Against the United States (for descrip-

tion see original report, item 11). Drafts of the bill and letters of transmittal to Congress have been completed. They have

been cleared by most of the appropriate administrative officers.
We are now considering a possible amendment to this bill to make

it include claims against the funds held by the United States in
a trust capacity (such as under the various claims commissions

statutes). Some courts have held that these funds are not within
the scope of the general assignment of claims statute (R.S. 3477).

38. Compilation of Money Statutes (for description see original
report, item 12), Miss McDuff is continuing the work on this ma-

terial.
39. Compilation in Annotated Form of Laws and Regulations Affecting Government Personnel (for description see original report,

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item 13). The Legislative Section is continuing this project
under Mr. Bernard's general supervision.

40. Codification of Federal Regulations (for description see
original report, item 16). The Treasury phases of this work are
being handled by Mr. Spingarn.

41. Codification of Anti-counterfeiting and Related Laws (for
description see original report, item 7). Mr. Koken is continuing
his work on this matter.
42. Coast Guard Omnibus Bill (for description see report for January, item 40). This matter has been completed and the bill is now
before the President for approval.

43. Federal Depositary System (for description see original report,
item 6). A draft of this bill, prepared by Mr. Reeves and approved
by the Division of Accounts and Deposits, is being revised to make
certain minor clarifying changes and to meet certain objections

raised by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. While it

is anticipated that the bill will be in form for submission to the
Bureau of the Budget at an early date, it would seem inadvisable to

transmit the bill to Congress this session because of the short period
of time remaining prior to final adjournment.

44. Fiscal Service (for description see February report, item 40).
The substance of a proposed reorganization plan, drafted by the -

Legislative Section, creating a Fiscal Service in the Treasury

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Department, was included in Reorganization Plan No. III, transmitted to the Congress by the President on April 2, 1940. The
Legislative Section has drafted a proposed departmental order carry-

ing into effect those provisions of Reorganization Plan No. III
with respect to a Fiscal Service in the Department.

45. Bookmaking Bill (for description see May report, item 31).
A representative of this office conferred with Mr. Vize of Internal
Revenue on the suggested changes made by the Bureau to the bill,

proposed by Mr. Klaus. Some revisions were made in the bill as a re-

sult of this conference, and it has been sent to Mr. Klaus again for
his comment.

46. Federal Tort Claims Bill (for description see March report,
item 35). Mr. Koken is continuing the coordination of the comments
of the staff members of the Legal Division on the proposed Federal
Tort Claims Act, sponsored by the Department of Justice.

47. Federal Alcohol Administration (for description see May report,
item 33). The draft of regulations (prepared at the request of Assistant Secretary Sullivan) to effectuate the merger of Federal Alcohol
Administration functions with Internal Revenue, as contemplated by
Reorganization Plan No. III, has been completed.
This work has been conducted by Mr. Spingarn under Mr.

Bernard's direction.

48. "Products of American Fisheries" Legislation (for description
see May report, item 34). This legislation (H.R. 8475) has passed
both Houses and is now before the President for approval.

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with Mr. Dwan and Mr. Higman of the Bureau of Customs.
NEW STUDIES

49. Proposed Anti-slug (Used in Vending Devices) Legislation. At
the request of Representative Schafer of Wisconsin, we are consid-

ering the advisability of legislation directed against tokens and
slugs manufactured for use in coin telephones and automatic vending

devices. The Treasury reported favorably on legislation of this
character sponsored by Representative Ludlow of Indiana in 1930.

We were informed by the Department of Justice that the then Attorney General wrote a letter to the Judiciary Committee of the House

disapproving Ludlow's bill (H.R. 8001) on the ground of alleged un-

constitutionality, but that it desired that we disregard that letter. The Legislative Section has prepared a memorandum in support

of the constitutionality of such legislation, and is drafting, in
cooperation with Mr. Bernstein's office, legislation of this character for possible sponsorship by Representative Schafer, if it receives departmental approval.