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DIARY

Book 246

March 7 - 12, 1940

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246

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Alaaka

Tax expert to be sent and financing thereof discussed
by Ickes and HMJr - 3/7/40

-B Bank of America

Program as worked out by Treasury, Comptroller of
Currency, and Securities and Exchange Commission
explained to Cushing by Bell and Foley - 3/8/40
Brazil

134

See Latin America

Buck, J. Lossing
HMJr asks to see; was surprised to see Buck in Treasury
since he no longer works there - 3/12/40
Business Conditions
Impact (estimated) of foreign transactions on domestic

338

business activity during next six months:
White memorandum - 3/9/40

168

Business conditions and prospects as reported by Sears-

Roebuck, International Harvester, et cetera 3/9/40

171

Favorable side of picture: Haas memorandum - 3/11/40.
Haas memorandum on situation for week ending 3/9/40

200
262

-c-China

See Export-Import Bank

" War Conditions

-DDenmark

See Export-Import Bank

Diamonds (Industrial)
See War Conditions

-E- Export-Import Bank

Loans to China ($20 million), Denmark ($10 million),
and Iceland ($1 million) agreed upon - 3/7/40

46

-FFinancing, Government
3/15/40:

Offering of 3% Treasury notes, Series A-1945, in exchange
for 14% Treasury notes, Series B-1940, maturing

June 15, 1940 - 3/7/40

16

Closing of books on March 9, 1940, announced March 8, 1940.. 142

Finland
See War Conditions

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General Counsel, Office of
Report of projects during February 1940

246

Page
1

Germany

See War Conditions

Gold

See War Conditions: Finland; Purchasing Mission
Great Britain
See War Conditions: Purchasing Mission

-IIceland

See Export-Import Bank
Indian Head Powder Factory

See War Conditions: Strategic Materials - Smokeless Powder
Indiana
See Tax Evasion

Inter-American Bank
See Latin America
Iran
See War Conditions

-LLatin America
Economic developments in face of European war:
White memorandum - 3/12/40

388

Brazil:
Grade IV Bonds: Treatment by Brazilian Government
again discussed in State Department message to
American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro - 3/7/40
American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro, reports on

115

Government's plan for repatriation of bonds in
open market: only moderate purchases and none

without consulting the interested Government 3/7/40

a) State Department reports dislike for
clause above

Text of decree-law providing for resumption of
services on Brazilian debt
French gold franc situation one of Brazil's principal
reasons for desiring to maintain principle of
Aranha plan - 3/8/40

"No worked-out plans for present or near future for
repatriation of bonds in excess of amortization
indicated in proposal": Aranha message - 3/9/40

Foreign Debt Decree: Press comment in Brazil - 3/11/40

Decree law published in Diario Oficial - 3/9/40
Inter-American Bank: Replies by fifteen countries

117
118

120,126

131

181,235,240
233

396
389

-PPeace Conference

Hull asks HMJr to appoint Treasury representative to
discuss financial aspects with State Department;
White appointed - 3/11/40

199

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196

Roumania

See War Conditions

-SSelf-Help Cooperatives
Funds for 1941 discussed in Bell memoranda to

Colonel Harrington and Director of Budget:
a) Taken to White House - 3/11/40
Surplus Commodities

Wheat Export Sales, etc.: Haas memorandum - 3/11/40

260

a) Australian situation and similarity to
World War discussed

-TTax Evasion

Indiana: Conference to discuss whether at present time

there is an adequate record to justify Treasury in
requesting Justice to file petition against Bowman Elder;
present: Sullivan, Foley, Helvering, Irey, Kades, and
Leming - 3/7/40

123

-WWar Conditions

Air Mission to England and France:
Again discussed by General Arnold and HMJr - 3/7/40
a) Arnold reports War Department officials

30

"all for it" from Woodring down

Airplanes:
Airplane motors of less than 1000 horsepower now under

contracts of record but undelivered: Report -

3/7/40

54

Inquiry by Sir Henry Self concerning purchase of
ordnance for forthcoming aviation program 3/12/40

359

from April 1940 for one year - 3/12/40

362

P-40 deliveries to French and United States Army
China:

Wood Oil Transportation by Pack Train: Report 3/7/40

15

Transport facilities available in making use of the

Irrawaddy River for shipments from Rangoon to China

143

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349

War Conditions (Continued)
Closing Agreements:

Electric Boat Company
Foley memorandum discussing refusal of House

Committee on Naval Affairs to confer authority
upon Navy to award contracts without competitive
bidding and insistence upon retention of profits

limitation provisions in pending Naval Bill of
1940 and reputed favoritism shown by Navy to
Electric Boat Company - 3/8/40

Hercules Powder Company:

"Tip" to Purvis to see Colonel Burns (Aide to

Johnson) before seeing Sullivan discussed by
Purvis and HMJr and later at Treasury conference 3/7-8/40

100,152

Purvis reports on conference with Board in Wilmington;
extremely unpleasant; Dunham (Russell, Chairman of

Board, is providing opposition to a closing agreement3/11/40

288

Diamonds (Industrial):
Complete resume of present situation given in Gaston
memorandum - 3/11/40

Exchange market resume - 3/7/40, et cetera

40,139,182,
257,322

Finland:
Smokeless Powder: Request for 1500 tons discussed by
Edison and HMJr - 3/7/40

33

Airplanes: Relinquishing of 186 planes already under

order for France: rejection of release by Allied

Purchasing Commission discussed by Cochran and
Procope - 3/7/40
(State Department informed: See page 42)

39

a) Discussion at 9:30 meeting.

69

b) Mannerheim's own message

51

1) FDR's notation

c) General Watson-HMJr conversation

Peace with Russia reported by Captain Puleston and
discussed at Treasury conference - 3/11/40

a) Official confirmation

Political set-up discussed in White memorandum -

50
53

218
381

3/12/40

296

3/12/40

321

Gold: Balances and earmarked in New York as of 2/28/40 Foreign Economic Developments: White memorandum - 3/12/40

383

Germany:

Tax increase reported upon by American Embassy, Berlin 3/7/40

48

Puleston memorandum on unwitting aid to Germany through

timing of Welles' visit, Taylor's mission to Vatican,
fifty-fifty chances in newspaper columns, et cetera Iran:

3/12/40

Five million pounds sterling credit by Great Britain
reported in Kennedy cable - 3/11/40

364

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War Conditions (Continued)
Purchasing Mission:

Needs discussed after return from Europe by Purvis,
Pleven, Bloch-Laine, Jacquin, Self, HMJr, Cochran,
and Collins - 3/7/40
Rist and Ashton-Gwatkin visit to Treasury planned by
State Department - 3/8/40
a) Actual conference; British and French
Ambassadors also present - 3/11/40

b) White gives evaluation of Ashton-Gwatkin in
his dealings with Czechoslovakia

c) Description of visit for press planned at
9:30 meeting

d) HMJr discusses visit with Purvis - 3/11/40
Payments to date and gold inflow discussed by
Purvis, Pinsent, Cochran, and White - 3/8/40

133
238
241

244
282
163

Great Britain: Report on official sales of Britishowned dollar securities under vesting order
(effective February 19, 1940) - 3/11/40

255

Roumania:

Treasury asks American Embassy for further report
on trade with Germany (petroleum especially) 3/12/40

a) Copy of January 9th report attached
Securities Markets (High-Grade):
Current Developments: Haas memorandum - 3/12/40

367
371

397

Strategic Materials:
Nickel:

Proposals for allocation of exports from Canada to
other than European destinations discussed in
Purvis memorandum - 3/10/40

187

Smokeless Powder:

See also War Conditions: Closing Agreements

(Hercules Powder Company)

Spear-HMJr conversation - 3/7/40

27

a) Spear reports release of powder to British

has not yet gone through
1) Spear states Navy was instructed to
secure letter from duPont and Hercules
asking Navy permission to make the
release or sale; duPont has refused
b) HMJr instructs Spear to release powder anyway

"since FDR at no time raised that point"
Finnish request for 1500 tons (3 million pounds)
discussed by Edison and HMJr - 3/7/40
a) Edison points out Navy can release only

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600,000 pounds; if all this is released
to British there can be none for release

to other nations
Indian Head Powder Factory: Report on facilities 3/7/40

112,327

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274

War Conditions (Continued)

Strategic Materials (Continued):

Smokeless Powder (Continued):
Woodring and HMJr discuss Johnson's memorandum;

Woodring says everything is OK and he does not
understand Johnson's objections - 3/11/40
Navy-War correspondence concerning the 600,000
pounds; Navy can release - 3/12/40

324

a) Johnson memorandum: War Department will not

require this within next four months

b) Navy (Furlong) memorandum to duPont accepting

deferred delivery - 3/11/40

325

329

(Later cancelled by telephone)

c) Hines (Chairman, Army-Navy Munitions Board)
memorandum concerning Colonel Burns' visit

and discussion of availability of Navy

Department powder to Army if needed 3/9/40

330

Conference; present: HMJr, Furlong (Chief - Bureau of
Ordnance, Navy Department), Spear (Chief - Bureau of
Supplies and Accounts, Navy Department), and

Collins - 3/12/40

a) Army to be consulted as to whether 1,200,000
pounds of powder to be released is from
Army reserve account

361

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

FROM

MAR 7 1940

Secretary Morgenthau

Mr. Foley

In accordance with the request contained in Mr. Thompson's
memorandum of December 26, 1939, there is attached a summary report of

studies or projects carried on in the Office of the General Counsel for
the month of February, 1940.

Attachment

9.10th

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SUMMARY REPORT ON STUDIES OR PROJECTS IN
THE OFFICE OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL FEBRUARY 1940

1. Monopoly Study. In our last report it was stated that this
project would be completed by March 15, 1940. The collection of
the material involved has been completed, but the task of organising and analyzing the voluminous data which have been gathered and

of formulating conclusions therefrom has proved so great that it is
now expected that the month of March will be required to wind up the
job. Messrs. O'Connell, Kades, and Handler are engaged upon this
work.
2.

Relations with the Department of Justice with regard to cases

having both civil and criminal aspects. A study has been made during the past month regarding this subject, and a form of procedure
was outlined for referring customs cases to the Department of Justice

for criminal prosecution without necessarily surrendering control of
the settlement of any civil claims which might be involved in the
same cases. Dwan, Chief Counsel, Customs, was in charge.

3. Chinese Currency. This office has commenced a study of the
legal questions involved in the New York Federal Reserve Bank's prac-

tice of certifying four rates of exchange for the Chinese Yuan each

day, and related matters. As a part of this study, there will be
considered the legal implications of the present practice of exporters
from North China to express their invoices in the currency of the
Japanese-established Federal Reserve Bank for North China. Dwan is
also engaged upon this study.

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-24.

Importation of Poppy Heads for Test Purposes. A plan is under

consideration whereby a supply of poppy heads may be imported to

enable the importing manufacturers to test a method for the direct
extraction of morphine. Tennyson, Chief Counsel, Narcotics, is
engaged upon this work.

5. Revolving Fund to Permit Reissue of Checks in Advance of
Reclamation. Under present procedure where payment has been made

to the wrong person or a check has been negotiated without authority
from the payee, the Comptroller General will allow a new check to be
issued to the proper payee in advence of successful reclamation in

only a limited number of cases, with the result that claims of innocent payees are not paid for an unconscionable time. Mr. Easby of

Tietjens' office is working in cooperation with the Treasurer's
office on a study of these cases with a view to drafting legislation
setting up a revolving fund from which these claims could be paid
promptly and in advance of reclamation.

6. New Depositary, Financial Agent, and Collateral Agreements.
Under the old limited form of designation of depositaries, Government

funds in transmission were not protected by the deposit of collateral.

Mr. Easby of Tietjens' office, in cooperation with the Division of Deposits, has prepared new forms of designations, collateral agreements,

and authorizing resolutions designed to remedy this defect. In con-

nection with this revision, a new form of collateral, 2% Depositary

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-3 Bonds of 1950, has been authorized (Department Circular No. 629),

and the forms prepared by Tietjens' office.
7.

Broadening of Jurisdiction of Processing Tax Board of Review.

Raymond Brown of the Processing Tax Section, Appeals Division, Revenue, is considering the question whether the law should be amended

to confer jurisdiction upon the Processing Tax Board of Review of all
cases involving the refund of any amount collected under the Agricultural Adjustment Act. The Board now has jurisdiction only of amounts

paid as processing tax, while the district courts and the Court of
Claims have jurisdiction of cases involving the refund of amounts
paid as compensating, custom processing, or floor stocks taxes. The
question was prompted by the Board.
8.

Income Tax Consequences of Cancellation of Indebtedness. A study

was pursued respecting the income tax consequences of the cancellation

of the indebtedness of the taxpayer. The problem arises in connection with open market purchases of the bonds of the taxpayer, voluntary adjustments by agreement with the creditors, reorganizations under
the Bankruptcy Act, and mortgage foreclosure proceedings. The Internal
Revenue Code presents an approach to the issues quite at variance with

that of the Bankruptcy Act. A proper and satisfactory solution will
require the cooperative efforts of Wenchel's office and the office of
the Legislative Counsel together with the attorneys for the Securities
and Exchange Commission. The solution is not to be attempted at the

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-4- present session of Congress. In the meantime, consideration must
be given to the possibilities presented by any emergency stop-gap

legislation which might be proposed. Reiling, of the Legislation
and Regulations Division, Revenue, is in charge.

9. Estate Tax on Proceeds of Life Insurance. Study is being given
by Reiling's shop to a possible revision of the regulations within
existing provisions of the Internal Revenue Code whereby the proceeds

of life insurance taken out by the decedent on his own life shall be
included in his gross estate notwithstanding the fact that the decedent
retained no legal incidents of ownership. This study was undertaken
at the suggestion of Mr. Stam, Chief of Staff, Joint Committee on Internal Revenue Taxation.

10. Stamp Tax - Transfers by Operation of Law. The possibility is
being studied of eliminating confusion and uncertainty in the admin-

istration of the stamp tax provisions of the Code by the repeal of
the statutory exemption with respect to "transfers by operation of

law" and the substitution therefor of a specific exemption with re-

spect to certain specified transfers. Reiling is handling.
11. More Appropriate Tax Treatment of Taxpayers Claiming Benefit
of Community Property Laws. Consideration has been given to the

problem of affording more appropriate tax treatment in the case of
taxpayers claiming the benefit of community property laws. This
study extends to income taxes, estate taxes, and gift taxes, and has
resulted in the development of certain tentative recommendations.

Reiling is handling.

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-512. Use of Lapsed Salaries for Promotions. The question was considered whether savings resulting from lapsed salaries are required
by law to be covered into the Treasury or may be used for administrative promotions and new appointments. An opinion was rendered ex-

pressing the conclusion that the lapse provision contained in the
Act of August 5, 1882, is not applicable in an instance where the
appropriation for salaries has been made in a lump sum and therefore

that lapses may be used for the purposes indicated. Mr. Wolf in the
Opinions Section prepared this opinion.
13.

Power of Member of Congress to Act'as Attorney for Receiver of

an Insolvent National Bank. An opinion prepared by Feidler of the
Opinions Section concludes that a Member of Congress may not be law-

fully retained by the Comptroller of the Currency as attorney for the
receiver of a national bank.

14. Destruction of old Checks and Warrants. Under the Act of
August 5, 1939, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Comptroller
General had authority to destroy paid Government checks and warrants.

The Act of August 5, 1939, provides for the disposition of Government
#records". An opinion prepared by Mr. Gilmore and Miss Goode of the
Opinions Section concludes that the method of disposition of records

provided in the Act of August 5, 1939, is exclusive, and hence the
Secretary of the Treasury and the Comptroller General no longer have
authority to destroy checks and warrants as provided in the previous

act (that of June 22, 1926).

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-615. Authority of Board of Directors of Federal Farm Mortgage
Corporation to Reduce Capital Stock. An opinion prepared by
Messrs Feidler and Gilmore expresses the conclusion that the Board
of Directors of the Federal Farm Mortgage Corporation does not have

at the present time authority to reduce the corporation's capital
stock.

16. Correlation of laws Affecting Coast Guard and Lighthouse Ser-

vice. A study is being made of the laws affecting the Coast Guard
and the former Lighthouse Service with a view to recommending such

repeals and modifications as may be necessary to establish uniformity

of practices considered desirable as a result of the consolidation.
An omnibus bill has been prepared for submission to Congress at this
session embodying such repeals and modifications thus far developed

as desirable and, as the study progresses, it is anticipated other
recommendations will be made. However, present plans do not contem-

plate further recommendations to Congress at this Session, it being
considered desirable to accumulate individual cases for incorporation into another omnibus bill for recommendation to Congress at its
next session. This study is being conducted by Harrison, Chief
Counsel, Coast Guard, in cooperation with administrative officers at
the Coast Guard.

17. Inter-American Bank. Proposed by-laws, charter, and convention
for the Inter-American Bank were prepared, approved by the full committee, and forwarded to the 21 Pan-American governments for consideration.

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7Bernstein handled this job and was assisted by Messrs. Pehle,
Friedman, and Ferguson.

18. Sabotage Awards. This Department has been cooperating with

the Department of Justice in connection with the interests of the

Treasury in the litigation relative to the so-called sabotage awards.
The suit against the Secretary of the Treasury which would enjoin him
from paying such awards is now pending on appeal in the Court of Ap-

peals for the District of Columbia. The cross action brought by the
holders of the sabotage awards which requests the court to direct
the Secretary of the Treasury to pay such awards is still pending in
the District Court.

The time for filing applications for payment of awards of the
Mixed Claims Commission, which has been extended by Congress from

time to time, expires on March 10, 1940. The Treasury Department has

not requested a further extension of the time for filing such applications. Pehle and Miss Hodel assisted Mr. Bernstoin in the above work.
19.

Alien Property Bureau. This Department has been cooperating

with the Department of Justice and the Department of State in the con-

sideration of proposed legislation which would discontinue the Alien
Property Bureau and provide for the disposition of the funds being
held in the German Special Deposit Account. We also raised with the

Department of Justice the possibility of issuing an executive order

which would lift the restrictions of the Harrison Resolution to the

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-8extent necessary to enable the Attorney General to pay certain taxes
owing by Germans out of property seized from Germans. Mr. Pehle and
Miss Hodel in Bernstein's shop have been engaged upon the above task.
20.

Townsend Silver Bill. This office participated in the consid-

eration of the position which the Administration should take with reference to the Townsend bill which would immediately discontinue all

acquisitions of silver by the Treasury other than acquisitions of
newly mined domestic silver. Messrs. Bernstein and Pehle handled this
assignment.

21. Silver Commissions. We referred to the Department of Justice
for appropriate action the matter of the charging by certain New York
brokers of a double commission on the liquidation of certain outstand-

ing silver contracts of the Treasury at the time of the nationalization
of silver. This was handled by Messrs. Pehle and Friedman.

22. Export of materials. We reviewed and made suggestions with respect to proposed legislation giving the President power to restrict
exports of certain materials. This was handled by Messrs. Pehle and
Friedman.

23. Moving of Silver to West Point. The Mint Bureau is contemplating moving between 200,000 and 400,000 bars of silver from the New York

Assay Office to West Point in the near future. We drafted the necessary

papers, including proposed specification, bids, bid bond, etc. for such
moving. This job was handled by Messrs. Pehle and Bernstein.

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-924.

Gold Mining Cases. Exceptions to findings of fact made by a

commissioner of the Court of Claims in two of these cases are being

prepared. A proposed stipulation of evidence is being prepared in
another one of such cases. This job is being handled by Messrs.
Friedman and Mann in Bernstein's shop.
25.

Bakewell Case. A brief for the Government in this case, which

involves a suit upon a gold-clause Liberty Bond for an amount in excess of the face amount thereof, is being prepared. Messrs. Pehle
and Friedman are doing the work.

26. Harris S. Durkee. The Department has for some time been corresponding with Harris S. Durkee with respect to certain gold which
he indicated had been held since 1933 in a safe deposit box in this
country and which he wished to arrange to have turned in without

penalties being imposed. The Department took the position that it
would give no assurances to Durkee with reference to such gold.
Recently a New York lawyer came to the Department to discuss a sim-

ilar problem and when asked if he represented Durkee, indicated that

he did. No assurances were given to the lawyer with reference to
the possible penalties but the lawyer promptly made arrangements for
the surrender of the gold, for which settlement was made at the face

amount for the gold coins and $20.67 for the gold bullion. The total
amount paid to Durkee amounted to approximately $80,000. This was
handled by Pehle.

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27. Material for Col. Halsey. At the request of Col. Halsey
statements relating to gold and to the public debt were prepared
for him by Messrs. Pehle and Friedman.

28. Purchase of Silver from Japan and Gold from Russia. We as-

sisted in the consideration of the Treasury's position with respect
to the purchase of silver from Japan and gold from Russia and as-

sisted in the drafting of correspondence, statements, etc., relative
thereto. Pehle worked on this.
The following items all pertain to work handled in the Legislative Section under the supervision of Mr. Bernard:
CONTINUATION OF PROJECTS

29. Alien Fishing Problem. (For description see original report,
No. 18.) Mr. Spingarn recently attended a public hearing of Mr.
Bland's Committee on bills dealing with the problem. Only nongovernmental witnesses testified at this meeting, but later on governmental
representatives will attend an executive session.
30.

Bills relative to the Harrison Narcotic Act:

(a) Bill to relieve the hospitals from double tax. (For
description see original report, No. 9, and pre-

vious report, No. 4.) This bill is still in the
hands of Budget. Miss McDuff handled this.

(b) Bill to withdraw registration under the Harrison Act
from person violating state or Federal narcotic laws.
(For description see previous report, New Studies,

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- 11 No, 4.) A memorandum on the constitutionality of
this measure has been completed by Mr. Groman.

This bill has now been sent forward with a draft of
a memorandum from Mr. Foley to Mr. Gaston summariz-

ing the background and legal aspects of the bill and
requesting a policy decision as to whether or not the
Department should sponsor it.

31. Bond Survey. (For description see original report, No. 10.)
A report on Senator McCarran's bill is being prepared and an alter-

native bill drafted by the Legislative Section, to accompany this
report, has been submitted to an interdepartmental conference for
consideration. The suggestions made in the conference are now being

incorporated in the alternative bill. Mr. Groman is handling this.
32. Assignment of Claims against the United States. (For descrip-

tion see original report, No. 11.) Letters of transmittal to Congress are now being put in final shape by Mr. Groman.

33. Compilation of money Statutes. (See description in original

report, No. 11.) Miss McDuff-is putting this material into final
form.

34. Compilation in Annotated Form of Laws and Regulations Affecting

Government Personnel. (For description see original report, No. 13.)

All the attorneys in the Legislative Section are continuing this project under Mr. Bernard's supervision.

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35. Codification of Federal Regulations. (For description see
original report, No. 16.) Mr. Spingarn is continuing the Treasury
phases of this work.

36. Codification of Anti-counterfeiting and Related Laws. (For
description see original report, No. 7.) Work on this by Mr. Koken
continues.

37. Restriction of Export of Vital Material. (For description see
previous report, New Studies, No. 2.) The Legislative Section has

continued its cooperation with Mr. White's office in considering leg-

islation to restrict the export of materials vital to national defense. Mr. Spingarn has been handling this work for the Legislative
Section.
38.

Coast Guard Omnibus Bill. (For description see previous re-

port, New Studies, No. 3.) Work on the proposed bill has been com-

pleted by Mr. Koken and the bill has been sent forward for Budget
clearance.

39. Federal Depositary System. (For description see original report, No. 6.) A draft of this bill has been prepared by Mr. Reeves
and the bill has been submitted to the Division of Deposits.
NEW STUDIES

40, New Office of Fiscal Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury.
The Legislative Section has prepared and submitted to Mr. Bell and

Mr. Bartelt for comment a draft of a reorganization plan to establish

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the office of Fiscal Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury. A
memorandum in support of the legality of the proposed plan has also
been prepared. Mr. Reeves was responsible for this work.

41. Council of Personnel Administration. A proposed reorganization plan, a message to Congress, and a memorandum supporting the

legality of the plan are being prepared by Mr. Groman. The possi-

bility of utilizing funds in the Civil Service Commission to sustain
the present Council of Personnel Administration is also being studied.

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No. 62
AMERICAN CONSULATE GENERAL

American Foreign Service, Hanoi, Indochina,
March 7. 1940.

Subject: Transportation of Wood 011
through Kwangsi.
The Honorable

The Secretary of State,
Washington.

Sir:

I have the honor to refer to my despatch no. 61 of March 6, 1940, in regard to

the increasing utilization of pack trains for the transportation of exports to and
imports from China, as a result of the disruption in part or in whole of other means
of transportation via Indochina. It is now reliably reported that pack train trans-

portation of wood oil from Kwangsi is increasing very appreciably.

During a recent investigation of the back country trails along the Indochina-

Kwangsi frontier, an observer noted an unusual number of pack trains carrying wood
oil into Indochina. He was subsequently informed by a member of the Kwangsi Import
and Export Syndicate that approximately 4,000 tins of wood oil are now being handled

monthly over these trails. In order of importance these trails are: (1) Tran Khan
Fu - 29 kilometers to the frontier and 3 days to Tsingtsi; (2) Tralin - 3 kilometers
to the frontier and 1 day to Tsingtsi; (3) Sac Giang - 3 kilometers to the frontier

and 2 days to Tsingtsi; (4) Ben Cra - 8 kilometers to the frontier and no Chinese
town of importance within 4 or 5 days; and (5) Hulong - 10 kilometers from the frontier
and about 3 days to Lungchow. All coolies and pack animals have to be arranged for
at Tsingtsi.

It is possible that much of the wood oil reaching Indochina by these back trails

escapes the control of the Foo Shing Trading Corporation, which holds the export monopoly of this commodity, except that arriving by the main Caobang road.
The Indochina Government is apparently cooperating with the Chinese National
Government in endeavoring to make effective the control of the Foo Shing Trading

Corporation, as exports of wood oil from Indochina are prohibited unless evidence is
presented that the export is "legitimate". In addition to this apparent cooperation,
the Indochina Government, by the recent tightening of control over exports of wood
oil and other commodities from Indochina, is patently pursuing a three-fold purpose:
(1) preventing these commodities from going into Russian hands, for possible use by
the Germans; (2) acquiring control of commodities which will realize foreign exchange;
and (3) acquiring commodities, which are usable in French and British war time industries.
Respectfully yours,
For the Consul at Saigon,
CHARLES S. REED II

American Consul.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington
FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,

Thursday, March 7, 1940.

Press Service
No. 20-38

3/6/40

Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau announced today the offering, through

the Federal Reserve banks, of 3/4 percent Treasury Notes of Series A-1945, in
exchange for 1-1/2 percent Treasury Notes of Series B-1940, maturing June 15,

1940. Exchanges will be made par for par, and accrued interest on the notes
exchanged will be paid to March 15, 1940. The offering of the new notes will
be limited to the amount of maturing notes tendered and accepted in exchange

therefor. Cash subscriptions will not be received.
The Treasury Notes of Series A-1945, now offered only in exchange for
Treasury notes maturing June 15, 1940, will be dated March 15, 1940, and will

bear interest from that date at the rate of 3/4 percent per annum, payable
semiannually. The notes will mature March 15, 1945, and will not be subject

to call for redemption before that date. They will be issued only in bearer
form with coupons attached, in the denominations of $100, $500, $1,000, $5,000,
$10,000 and $100,000.

The Treasury notes will be accorded the same exemptions from taxation as

are accorded other issues of Treasury notes now outstanding. These provisions

are specifically set forth in the official circular released today.
Subscriptions will be received at the Federal Reserve banks and branches,
and at the Treasury Department, Washington, and should be accompanied by a like

face amount of 1-1/2 percent Treasury Notes of Series B-1940, maturing June 15,

1940, with final coupon due June 15 attached. The notes will be accepted at
par, and accrued interest on such notes from December 15, 1939, to March 15, 1940,

(about $3.73 per $1,000 face amount) will be paid following their acceptance.

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-2The right is reserved to close the books as to any or all subscriptions

at any time without notice, and, subject to the reservations set forth in the

official circular, all subscriptions will be allotted in full.
Treasury Notes of Series B-1940, maturing June 15, 1940, are now outstand-

ing in the amount of $738,428,400. The present offering will be the only
opportunity afforded the holders of these maturing notes to exchange them for

other interest-bearing obligations of the United States. Any maturing notes
not so exchanged at this time will be paid in cash when they mature.

The text of the official circular follows:

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

3/4 PERCENT TREASURY NOTES OF SERIES A-1945

Dated and bearing interest from March 15, 1940

Due March 15, 1945

Interest payable March 15 and September 15

1940

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,

Department Circular No. 631

Office of the Secretary,
Washington, March 7, 1940.

Public Debt Service
I. OFFERING OF NOTES

1. The Secretary of the Treasury, pursuant to the authority of the
Second Liberty Bond Act, approved September 24, 1917, as amended, invites

subscriptions, at par, from the people of the United States for 3/4 percent
notes of the United States, designated Treasury Notes of Series A-1945, in
payment of which only Treasury Notes of Series B-1940, maturing June 15, 1940,

may be tendered. The amount of the offering under this circular will be limited
to the amount of Treasury Notes of Series B-1940 tendered and accepted.
II. DESCRIPTION OF NOTES

1. The notes will be dated March 15, 1940, and will bear interest from
that date at the rate of 3/4 percent per annum, payable semiannually on
September 15, 1940, and thereafter on March 15 and September 15 in each year

until the principal amount becomes payable. They will mature March 15, 1945,

and will not be subject to call for redemption prior to maturity.
2. The notes shall be exempt, both as to principal and interest, from all
taxation (except estate or inheritance taxes, or gift taxes) now or hereafter
imposed by the United States, any State, or any of the possessions of the

United States, or by any local taxing authority.
3. The notes will be accepted at par during such time and under such
rules and regulations as shall be prescribed or approved by the Secretary of

-2the Treasury in payment of income and profits taxes payable at the maturity
of the notes.
44 The notes will be acceptable to secure deposits of public moneys, but

will not bear the circulation privilege.
5. Bearer notes with interest coupons attached will be issued in
denominations of $100, $500, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000 and $100,000. The notes

will not be issued in registered form.
6. The notes will be subject to the general regulations of the Treasury
Department, now or hereafter prescribed, governing United States notes.
III. SUBSCRIPTION AND ALLOTMENT

1. Subscriptions will be received at the Federal Reserve banks and
branches and at the Treasury Department, Washington. Banking institutions

generally may submit subscriptions for account of customers, but only the
Federal Reserve banks and the Treasury Department are authorized to act as

official agencies.
2. The Secretary of the Treasury reserves the right to reject any

subscription, in whole or in part, and to close the bocks as to any or all
subscriptions at any time without notice; and any action he may take in these

respects shall be final. Subject to these reservations, all subscriptions will
be allotted in full. Allotment notices will be sent out promptly upon allotment.

IV. PAYMENT

1. Payment at par for notes allotted hereunder must be made or completed
on or before March 15, 1940, or on later allotment, and may be made only in
Treasury Notes of Series B=1940, maturing June 15, 1940, which will be
accepted at par, and should accompany the subscription. Coupons dated June 15,
1940, must be attached to the notes when surrendered, and accrued interest from
December 15, 1939, to March 15, 1940 ($3.7295 per $1,000), will be paid
following acceptance of the notes.

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-V. GENERAL PROVISIONS

1. As fiscal agents of the United States, Federal Reserve banks are
authorized and requested to receive subscriptions, to make allotments on the
basis and up to the amounts indicated by the Secretary of the Treasury to the

Federal Reserve banks of the respective districts, to issue allotment notices,
to receive payment for notes allotted, to make delivery of notes on full-paid
subscriptions allotted, and they may issue interim receipts pending delivery
of the definitive notes.
2. The Secretary of the Treasury may at any time, or from time to time,
prescribe supplemental or amendatory rules and regulations governing the
offering, which will be communicated promptly to the Federal Reserve banks.

HENRY MORGENTHAU, JR.,

Secretary of the Treasury.

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11:15 a.m.

H.M.Jr:
Harold
Ickes:

Hello.

H.M.Jr:

Yes Harold.

I:

I have your letter of March 3, saying that you'd be
glad to furnish us a tax expert for Alaska.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

I:

Were you kidding in your second paragraph?

H.M.Jr:

I don't know what it is Harold. What did I say?
Well, did you expect us to defray the travelling and

I:

Henry?

living expenses?

H.M.Jr:

Yes, because we have, we can't do it, we can furnish
the man.

I:

Well, but the whole purpose of this thing is to relieve
the pressure on the Treasury for appropriations for
Alaska,
you'll
benefit, we don't. It doesn't make any
difference
to us.

H.M.Jr:

Oh well, Reading was over here.

I:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I had a meeting with him and he seemed to think

that suggestion was fair. No I wasn't kidding.

I:

Well but it is the fact Henry, that this will help the

H.M.Jr:

Treasury, it won't help us a dime.
Well I -

I:

They aren't paying their adecuate share of taxes up

there and then they come down here, gets the Treasury
to make un the difference between what the Government

costs them and what they're willing to pay themselves.
H.M.Jr:

Well -

I:

They've been doing that for years.

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-2H.M.Jr:

People around here seem to think that, I may be wrong,
that we wouldn't have any way of financing that.
Why?

H.M.Jr:

I don't know. I - I mean -

H.M.Jr:

Why of course you can finance it, Henry.
But Thompson, my administrator We'll give him free rides on our railroad when he gets
up there.

H.M.Jr:
H.M.Jr:

H.M.Jr:

You're big hearted today.

You aren't feeling big hearted.
I say you are.
No, sure, I'm big hearted, I'm trying to relieve the
tolerable strain that you're carrying over there,
making both ends meet. I can get you more revenues
out of Alaska.
This 18 too much, I mean -

of course if you want to give to us an amount like
that, why we haven't got any money over here. Come
along now, be a good fellow, you're tighter than
Jesse Jones.

H.M.Jr:

I refuse to take the insult.

H.M.Jr:

You are. You're tighter than Jesse.
I'll ask Norman Thompson. I don't know the details,

but I'll ask him about it.

You certainly have a right to send somebody up there,

it's strictly within your competence.

H.M.Jr:

Well let me ask you. Do you want somebody to go up
there?

Yes I do. I think those - ever since I went up there

a couple of summers ago I've been outraged by the

mendicant attitude of the people of Alaska.

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-3H.M.Jr:

Well the important thing, you really want somebody
up there.

I want somebody up there very much.
H.M.Jr:

Will you match me as to who pays his expenses.

No because I think you, I think the coin you match with
is crooked.

H.M.Jr:

Go to hell.

Well I will go to hell and I'll meet you there.
H.M.Jr:

O.K.

I'll have a nice warm fire ready for you.
H.M.Jr:

Well I'll talk to Norman Thompson.

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March 7, 1940.
3:56 p.m.

Operator: Go ahead.

Ed.

Halsey: Hello.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

H:

Ed Halsey, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

How are you?

H:

Fine
sir. I want to ask a little favor of you if I
can?

H.M.Jr:

Well if it's littleenough I'll do it.

H:

(laughs)

H.M.Jr:

If it's big enough I'll do it.

H:

Well that's fair enough. I've been watching the interest

up here. Hope you read that Schwellenbach speech the
other day where we minimized your national debt proposition
see it? right down to the vanishing point. Did you
H.M.Jr:

No I didn't.

H:

Well I'll send you a copy of it, it's an awfully

interesting speech and it can be amplified into a
real, real argument, where the national debt proposition
seems to be worrying a lot of people can be minimized
to where it almost take it out of the campaign I
think.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

H:

I'm serious about that.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

H;

What I wanted to ask you. You've been kind enough to
help me with that case of J. D. Younger. He's been
seriously ill and he's on a temporary appointment
and his term of leave expires tomorrow and I was

wondering if I couldn't - I've been through all of
the details with everybody under you that I could get
hold of except appealing to you, and I'm doing this

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because the others have not found any way to help me.
H.M.Jr:

What's his name?

H:

J. D. Younger. He's a - J. D. John D. Younger.
How do you spell it?
Y-o-u-n-g-e-r is the last name.

H.M.Jr:
H:

H.M.Jr:

Do you know where he's working?

H:

He's in the Mint Division, yes sir.

H.M.Jr:

Mint?

H:

Mint. Yes sir.

H.M.Jr:

Not mint julep?

H:

No, not mint julep, but far from it.

H.M.Jr:

And they want to lay him off?

H:

No, he's been ill and his term of leave expires and
they can't - he's absolutely flat on his back, He
has coronary thrombosis and I was wondering if some I couldn't appeal to you in some way or another to
put him on the permanent roles, or something, to
carry him until he can get on his feet. He's
Mrs. Halsey's brother otherwise I wouldn't be
interested.

H.M.Jr:

Well -

H:

I know it's unusual but I do the unusual some times,
and I don't know of anybody I'd rather do it for than

you.

H.M.Jr:

H:

H.M.Jr:
H:

Well, that goes both ways. I tell you, you'll get an
answer from Norman Thompson, my assistant, within
thirty minutes, one way or the other.
Well I talked to him about it sir.
Well what - let me talk to him.
Will you do it?

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-3H.M.Jr:

Sure, right away.

H:

I'll appreciate it then if you can do something I'll

H.M.Jr:

No.

H:

It'11 help me tremendously.

H.M.Jr:

Well look, let me find out.

H:

oh please.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

remember you in my will and everything else.

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March 7, 1940.
4:13 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Admiral Spear.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

O:

Go ahead.

H.M.Jr:
Admiral

Hello

Spear:

Good afternoon, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Hello Admiral. Admiral, do you know whether this
release
or
not? of powder to the English has gone through yet

S:

It has not yet, sir.

H.M.Jr:

It has not?

S:

It has not. What we were told to do was to endeavor
to secure a letter from the DuPont and the Hercules
people asking the Navy permission to make that release
or make that sale.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

S:

Which they have not done.
I see.

H.M.Jr:
S:

Now I don't know what's going to happen in the event

the DuPont people refuse to do it. By the way sir, I
understand, that they have definitely, this afternoon,
refused.
H.M.Jr:

Who has refused?

S:

The DuPont people.

H.M.Jr:

The DuPont?

S:

They will not make that request.

H.M.Jr:

They won't.

S:

That's what I'm told by the Chief of the Bureau of
Ordinances, this afternoon, about an hour ago.

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2H.M.Jr:

I see. You mean the DuPont won't make the request?

S:

Yes, they will not make any request. They don't want
to make that request.

H.M.Jr:

I see. Well, -

S:

Should we go ahead and do it anyway?

H.M.Jr:

Yes. Yes.

S:

Go ahead and do it.

H.M.Jr:
S:

H.M.Jr:
S:

Yes, because at no time has the President raised that
point with me.
I see.

No, he didn't raise the point.
I see. So you think it would be perfectly proper for
me to tell both the Army and the Navy that it's

perfectly proper to advise both companies to go ahead
and make their sales.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, if, if they won't do it, the President made no
conditions when I got - I spoke to him two different
times.

S:

I see.

H.M.Jr:

He made no conditions.

S:

I see. So I'll go right ahead and arrange that right
away sir.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you Admiral.

S;

And I'll tell Captain Collins about it because I told
Collins exactly what the situation was and that we
wouldn't do anything until we heard further and he
agreed that that was the proper step. Now with this
information that you've just given me I'll go ahead
and make the arrangements.

H.M.Jr:

No, I would have liked to have gotten it.

S:

I know.

-H.M.Jr:

Hello?

S:

Yes, sir. I understand.

H.M.Jr:
S:

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I understand that the English did ask DuPont and
Hercules to do this.
Oh they have and they told me yesterday afternoon,
Mr. Ballantyne was the secretary here, he thought

that the DuPont people were going to do it.

H.M.Jr:
S:

H.M.Jr:

S:

Yes.

Now this afternoon the DuPont people called our Chief,
Bureau of Ordinance, Admiral Furlong, and told him
definitely, there was a misunderstanding of some kind
that they would absolutely not do it.

Well I'm willing to say now that if they refused,
I'm willing to say that it's all right to go ahead
and let them have it.

Aye, aye, sir. I'll take steps right away to see

H.M.Jr:

that that's done.
Because at no time did the President raise that

S:

I see.

question.

S:

So I'll take the responsibility.
Aye, aye, sir. Well I'll see to it that those

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

S:

Aye, aye, sir. Thank you very much.

H.M.Jr:

instructions get out right away.

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March 7, 1940.
4:45 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

General Arnold.

H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Arnold:

Mr. Secretary. General Arnold talking.
Thank you for sending over that material.

General

H.M.Jr:
A:

H.M.Jr:

I hope that that was what you wanted.
Just what I wanted.

A:

Now I have a request to make.

H.M.Jr:

Please.

A:

We have to buy two Rolls Royce engines.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

A:

Similar to the kind that are in the Soitfire.

H.M.Jr:

Right.

A:

We got a message from our attache over there today,

H.M.Jr:

saying that the Air Ministry won't sell them to us.
Yes. The easiest thing in the world. What - have
they got a type number?

A:

Well we just ask for the latest Rolls Royoe that are
used in the Spitfire. That's the only way we could
identify them.

H.M.Jr:

You want two of the most recent Rolls Royce engines.

A:

As used in their pursuit aeroplanes.
Yes. And you want to buy them, or do you want to

H.M.Jr:

loan them?

A:

We want to buy them. We're willing to pay for them.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

A:

If we could get them to loan it would be 80 much
better, but we didn't think that was possible, 80 we
thought we'd rather buy them.

-2H.M.Jr:

Well, I'm going to ask, being a little Scotch, I'm

A:

All right, sir. Then the other thing sir.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

A:

Is there any way we can expedite that Mission over

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going to ask to borrow them.

H.M.Jr:

there? We're still talking about it and doing nothing.
Yes well now, I tell you, I was waiting to see the
President and I hope to see him in the next twenty-four
hours and I'll put it on his desk.

A:

Yes sir.

H.M.Jr:

Now, may I ask you? Are your top fellows all for this?

A:

For the Mission?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

A:

Yes sir, that's right through from top to bottom.

H.M.Jr:

Mr. Woodring is -

A:

Yes sir, they've all committed themselves on it.

H.M.Jr:

They have.

A:

Yes, sir.

H.M.Jr:

Well then I can - I'll give it a push.

A:

H.M.Jr:

I wish you would sir.
And the Rolls Royce engines. I'll guarantee to get

A:

Well if you can do that, that's going to be a wonderful

them for you.

help.

H.M.Jr:

I'll guarantee you that.

A:

All right.

H.M.Jr:

But the Mission thing, it may be - I mean I don't know
how the President will feel. The other thing I can get

it for you.

-3A:

Well all right.

H.M.Jr:

You want the two latest Rolls Royce engines.

A:

As used in their pursuit planes.

H.M.Jr:

I - I- I'll - you want two?

A:

Yes sir.

H.M.Jr:

One wouldn't do?

A:

Well one would be better than none but the reason why
they sent two was in case one breaks up during our
test why we'd have another one to complete them but

if we could only get one why we'd be tickled to death.

H.M.Jr:

Well I'll get you, I'll guarantee to get you one and
I'll try and get you two.

A:

Thank you very much.

H.M.Jr:

Goodbye.

A:

Goodbye.

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March 7, 1940.
4:45 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Hello.

Operator:

Secretary Edison.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you.

O:

Go ahead.

H.M.Jr:
Secretary
Edison:

H.M.Jr:
E:

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Hello.

Hello, Charles Edison talking.
Hello Charlie.
Say, Henry, Speer came and told me that you said it
was all right to release that powder and for UB to

take the initiative in releasing and not insist on
the DuPont company asking for it.

H.M.Jr:

That's right.

E:

And what I was wondering was - now that's six hundred
thousand pounds, all the powder we've got to release,
you see?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

E:

In other words we could take four months, but that's all.

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

E:

Now I heard today, just a little while ago, that the

Finns were over here now very anxious to get fifteen
hundred tons of powder and that's three million pounds.
Now if we give all this six hundred thousand to the
British there will be none for anyone else, not the
Swedes or Finns or anybody wants any more we just
won't have any more.

H.M.Jr:

Well the Finns got some powder from the Army, did you

E:

Yes, that was a little while ago.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. And I don't know -

E:

know that?

They're in again today I think for a large amount

more.

-2H.M.Jr:

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Well I didn't know anything about that. But this
other thing, this thing that we're talking about for
the English, I cleared twice with the President and
I don't think I'd change it.

E:

Well I just wanted you to have that word.

H.M.Jr:

I see.

E:

That if you do give it all to the British there won't

H.M.Jr:

be any for anybody else, you see, I mean we're through,
we've given up all we can give up.

Well there's another - there's another possibility.

I understand that by putting on a hundred and seventyfive more men in Indianhead you can build up your
own production.

E:

Yes, but God, we'd hate to do that.

H.M.Jr:

What?

E:

I say, I'd hate to do that.

H.M.Jr:

Huhhuh.

E:

H.M.Jr:
E:

For two reasons. I don't want too many men in one
place like Indianhead which 18 liable to blow up.
I see.
And the more of that stuff you have going through a
plant the more chance there is of its going, you know,
there's more men, more danger, and it's the only
powder plant we have, and then once we get them on
it's hell on earth to get them down again, see?

H.M.Jr:

But the Finns want how much?

E:

Well they want this huge quantity, three million
pounds.

H.M.Jr:
E:

I don't, I haven't heard anything about that.
Collins told Speer and he told me this morning in
counsel that this had just come in, just an hour
ago.

H.M.Jr:
E:

Collins said so?

Yes, so you can get it from Collins, the story on it.
and all I wanted to tell you was that, of course

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you know we can always stretch a point really
and give up. some more, but it's small quantities,
but this 18, this six hundred thousand pounds is about
all we could give un W1 thout really hurting, see.
And also there won't be any help for the Finns or
Swedes or anybody else that wants any if we give
this up, that amounts to anything.
H.M.Jr:

Well -

E:

You see we don't give it up to the English. All we
do is to tell DuPont we don't need deliveries for

four months, want six hundred thousand pounds, then
somebody else, you, over in your department allocate

H.M.Jr:

it to whoever you want to give it to.
Well of course I'm just acting as the President's
agent.

E:

Well I know, but I mean.

H.M.Jr:

But here's the thing. I've given my word.
To the British?

E:

H.M.Jr:

Yes. I've given my word and I've passed it in the

E:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

So I think I'd better stick to it.

E:

If that's the case you're elected.

H.M.Jr:

So I think I'd better stick to it.

E:

H.M.Jr:

Yes. Well I just wanted you to know that, that we
can probably not help the Finna much if Well, there's only so much to go around and I have
passed my word Charlie. I think I'd better stick
by it.

E:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

It's the only thing I've got that's worth anything.

E:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

Well of course -

name of the President.

-4E:

H.M.Jr:

I just wanted you to know that Well I appreciate it, and I've been thinking, while
you're talking, but here, I mean I'm only acting as
a messenger boy for the President.

E:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And I took it up with him Sunday and then again
Monday, and he told me twice that this is what he

wanted.
E:

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Now I've passed that along to the English and unless
stick by my orders.

he orders me to do otherwise I think that I'd better

E:

Yes, sure.

H.M.Jr:

So -

E:

I didn't want you to do it without knowing about
this new inquiry.

H.M.Jr:

Well -

E:

Collins can tell you the story on it.

H.M.Jr:

Right. Well I think I'll just - I have no alternative

4.

but stick by my orders.

E:

All right sir.

H.M.Jr:

But I appreciate your bringing it to me.

E:

All right. Well all we do you see is just merely

H.M.Jr:

I understand.

E:

But whoever they give it to is of no concern to us.

H.M.Jr:

I understand.

E:

Sentimentally.

H.M.Jr:

Well, but why the Finns always wait until the last
minute, they've been fighting since last December.
I don't know why they wait sir.

E:

tell DuPont that we don't want this for four months.

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-5H.M.Jr:

They came in here and saw the President Sunday. They

wanted a hundred and eighty six planes. I took it up
with - your Admiral, what's his name? Head of aviation.

E:

Yes. Towers.

H.M.Jr:

And General Arnold, and it just isn't in the wood.

E:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

And - because I don't know how much powder the English
and French have got and how much they can release to
the Finns.

E:

Well I don't think they've got much, if their plant blew
up and they need this three million pounds themselves,
they're not going to get out of us all that the English
want now.

H.M.Jr:
E:

H.M.Jr:

E:

That's right.
So they're not going to release any.

That's right. Well I appreciate your bringing it to
me Charlie, but I passed my word and I think I had
better stick by it.
Yes. oh sure, if you're committed why that's - ends
that. All right sir. Well I'm instructing Furlong
to go ahead and tell DuPont to do that.

H.M.Jr:

Thank you so much.

E:

All right, sir.

H.M.Jr:

See you soon. Goodbye.

38

March 7, 1940.
4:59 p.m.
H.M.Jr:

Jesse?

Jesse
Jones:

Yes.

H.M.Jr:

I'm delighted tc see on the ticker you announced the

J:

I thought you would. I saw Benton this morning and I
wanted to talk to him about the, one of the others and

loan to China.

he thought we ought to go ahead soon.
H.M.Jr:
J:

Well I just wanted to tell you I'm very much pleased.
Yes. Well I saw the Chinese yesterday, again last
night.

H.M.Jr:

Good.

J:

And so I thought we might as well go in and ease their

H.M.Jr:

All right Jesse, more power to you.

J:

H.M.Jr:

O.K. Getting along all right?
Oh pretty well. Got aeroplane troubles, otherwise

J:

O.K. Goodbye.

H.M.Jr:

Goodbye.

pain and do them what good we could.

all right.

39

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 7. 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthan

FROM

Mr. Cochran

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

In accordance with the Secretary's instructions, I telephoned Minister
Procope of Finland at 10 o'clock this morning and gave him the substance of the
message which I had received from Mr. Purvis by telephone yesterday evening.

Minister Procope was quite disappointed at what he considered a flat

failure to obtain assistance in the United States. I explained to him again,

as I had yesterday, that the Secretary had done absolutely everything possible
in canvassing the American situation and in making the approach to the Allied
Purchasing Commission. I made the point that the Commission was in this country
to coordinate purchases and could not make an important decision such as would
be involved in relinquishing 186 planes, already under order for France, to

Finland. I emphasized that this was a matter of high policy which could only
be considered in Paris. I told Minister Procope that his Minister there could
look into the possibilities. Procope was of the opinion that representations

had already been made in Paris and that the Supreme War Council was not willing

to go further than it already has.

Minister Procope will endeavor to see Mr. Purvis while the latter is in
Washington today. He said that if he could not obtain some satisfaction through

Purvis he might appeal to the Treasury again. I emphasized once more that the
Secretary had not referred the matter to Purvis until he had exhausted possi-

bilities of direct American assistance, after consulting with the appropriate
high officials in the army and navy. I added that the Secretary had been giving
his best efforts to speeding up production of the American aircraft industry,
but that it was beyond his authority to influence foreign governments which
have contracted for American planes as to what disposition they shall make of
them.

HW.

40

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 7. 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

The commercial purchases of open market sterling were in much larger volume
today, due to the recurrent rumor that over the coming weekend the British Exchange

Control will institute new regulations requiring that certain exports from England
and the British Empire would have to be paid for on the basis of the official rate.
It was reported that rubber concerns were particularly good buyers of sterling. As
a result, the upward movement in the sterling rate was accelerated today. Prior to

the opening of the exchange market here, sterling advanced from 3.90-15/16 to
3.91-7/8 in Amsterdam. The opening quotation in New York was 3.91-7/8. The rate
moved steadily upward to a high of 3.94-1/4 by late afternoon. Just before the
close, an easier tone developed and the final quotation was 3.94.

Sales of spot sterling by the six reporting banks and the Federal Reserve

Bank of New York totaled 1656,000 from the following sources:
By commercial concerns

L 241,000

By foreign banks (Europe and Far East)
By Federal Reserve Bank of New York (for Yugoslavia)

I 365,000

Total

I 50,000
L 656,000

Purchases of spot sterling amounted to 1876,000, as indicated below:
By commercial concerns
By foreign banks (Europe)

I 801,000

Total

I 75,000
I 876,000

The discounts for one-month and three-months forward sterling narrowed to

5/84 and 3-1/84 per pound respectively. The relatively greater improvement in

the one-month quotation (equivalent to 1-7/8% per annum), as compared with that
quoted for three-months (3-3/16%), is explained by the fact that commercial concerns

were fair buyers of short-dated maturities while less interest was shown for longer
dates.

The following reporting banks sold cotton bills totaling 1115,000 to the

British Control on the basis of the official rate of 4.02-1/2:
42,000 by the National City Bank
33,000 by the Guaranty Trust Co.
23,000 by the Chase National Bank
13,000 by the Irving Trust Co.
4,000 by the Bankers Trust Co.
L 115,000 Total

L

CONFIDENTIAL
-2-

41

In the past, the quotation for the Canadian dollar has generally moved in
sympathy with the sterling rate. Yesterday and today, however, the Canadian
currency failed to follow the improvement in sterling, and moved off today to
close at 14-1/2% discount, a new low since 1933.
The other important currencies closed as follows:
French francs
Guilders
Swiss francs

.0223-1/4
.5313-1/2

Belgas

.1693-1/2

.2242

We sold $100,000 in gold to the National Bank of Belgium to be added to its

earmarked account.
gold:
$

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following shipments of

1,691,000 from Italy, shipped by the Bank of Italy to the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York, to be earmarked for account of the B.I.S.
1,399,000 from England, representing three shipments by Samuel Montagu & Co.,

to the Bankers Trust Company, New York, for sale to the U. S. Assay
Office.
3,090,000 Total
The State Department forwarded to us a cable stating that the Bank of Sweden
made five shipments of gold for its own account totaling $20,653,000, from Sweden,

to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Although the disposition of these shipments is unknown at the present time, in all probability they will be earmarked
for account of the Bank of Sweden.

Since there was a holiday in India, no quotation for silver was received

from Bombay.

The prices fixed in London for spot and forward silver were both up 1/16d,
at 21-1/88 and 21d respectively. The U. S. equivalents were 37.19$ and 36.76
Handy and Harman's and the Treasury's prices for foreign silver were unchanged
at 34-3/4$ and 35$ respectively.

We made nine purchases of silver totaling 639,820 ounces under the Silver
Purchase Act. Of this amount, 200,000 ounces consisted of trading silver and
the balance of 439,820 ounces was new production from foreign countries, for
forward delivery.

MMP.

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 7. 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthan

FROM Mr. Cochran

In accordance with the Secretary's instructions, given me just after he
had telephoned General Watson at the White House, I talked by telephone with

Mr. Gray of Secretary Hull's office at 11:15 this forenoon. I gave Mr. Gray

a summary of the request made by Finnish Minister Procope, of the reference

of this request to the Secretary of the Treasury, of the Secretary's efforts

with the Army and Navy air chiefs and with the Allied Purchasing Commission,
of the response of Mr. Purvis, and of Minister Procope's reaction thereto.
Mr. Gray thanked us sincerely for this information which he will communicate
to Secretary Hull.

KMR.

42

43

Reven 9. 1040

my dear Mr. Presidents

I think you will find the
inclused shart of
interest. You will note that in

practically every instance the
shart shows that the figure for
the particular item La higher for
the first month of 1940 than ing any of the past three years.
Sincerely yours,

. chut #

from 4-40
Hano Business 3-

The President,
The white House.

44

March 7. 1940

My dear Mr. President:

I think you will find the
inclosed chart of considerable
interest. You will note that in

practically every instance the
chart shows that the figure for
the particular item is higher for
the first month of 1940 than ouring any of the past three years.
Sincerely youre,

The President,
The White House.

45

march 9. 1940

my - Mr. Presidents

$ shart
- you
will find the
of considerable

interest. You will note that in
proofically every instance the
share shows that the figure for
the portioniar Item so higher for

the first month of 2040 than ing - of the past three years.
sincerely youre,

The President,
The where House.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 7, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Joseph P. Cotton, Jr.

Re: Action taken by the Export-Import
Bank re China, etc., - meeting of
March 7, 1940.

Mr. Jones outlined the proposed course of action which was taken

by the Board, involving allocation of $20 millions of the Bank's resources for additional credits to the Universal Trading Corporation and
authorizing $10 millions in credits for Denmark and $1 million for
Iceland.

Mr. Jones explained that although the Chinese deal was not yet
worked out, he had told Chen that credits would be made available and

he thought it desirable to take action in order that Chen might be in

a position to put out some public statement of psychological value under
the present circumstances. As forecast at the last meeting, Mr. Jones
said he thought it was impossible to avoid doing something for Denmark
after the other Scandinavian loans and he also recommended the $1 million credit for Iceland which, although independent, has the same king
as Denmark. Mr. Jones pointed out that both these countries had indi-

cated that they would wish to use the larger part of the credits afforded for the purchase of agricultural commodities. He said that Den-

mark had an adverse trade balance with the United States of about $21

millions, whereas Iceland had a favorable trade balance with us last
year of something under $1 million.
There was some general discussion of the position of the Bank and

of pending applications in addition to the formal action taken as above

noted. Mr. Pierson called attention to an application for $5 millions
in credits to finance the sale of rails in Brazil in which steel interests here would be willing to take a participation, and to discussions

which he had had with Westinghouse interests for financing in connection

with the electrification of the Sorro-Cabana railway in Brazil. He also
indicated that a representative from Chile arrived to discuss the purchases which might be financed under the $5 millions commitment assumed

last Fall to Fomento, the Chilean development corporation.

I raised the question whether it might not be wise to go a little
slow with current business of this nature to avoid over-committing the

46

47

-2Bank - as happened in the past - in such a way as to prevent it from

undertaking commitments in special situations where other than purely
trade considerations apply, and I pointed to the case of Colombia where
assurance of some credits is practically necessary if we are to hope
for a permanent debt settlement. Mr. Jones said that he would be prepared to do something in the case of Colombia.
Mr. Schram of the RFC was present and indicated that he was making some arrangements so that the RFC would be in a position to take

over the Bank's assets arising from the financing of agricultural ex-

ports.

Mr. Noble voiced apprehension about further credits to Brazil in
view of the Bank's relatively heavy commitments in that country and
the lack of any apparent collateral results from such piece-meal trans-

actions.

J.P.e.r.

48
PARTIAL PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Berlin, Germany

DATE: March 7, 1940, 6 p.m.

NO.: 578
My 2150, November 28, 11 a.m.
FOR TREASURY FROM HEATH.

The first definite announcement of the long rumored in-

crease in taxation 18 contained in an article in this morning's
DAZ. According to the article the income tax will be changed
and increased but the increase in the rate is not stated.
The comment is made that "the formation of capital and reserves should and will not in any way be throttled". No
announcement was made of additions or changes in other taxes.
The German income tax has been a progressive levy based

on the total net income. The article indicates that the new
tax will apply increased and varying rates not to the whole of
the incomes but to slices of income lying between specified
limits. The war surtax (see Embassy's 1079, September 5,
3 p.m.) will be incorporated in the new income tax system.
The surtax on increase of income (see Embassy's 298, April 29,
10 a.m.) will be revoked. The article also announces an
expansion of the system of old age pensions but no details
are given.

The following is confidential: At the Reichabank
recently I was told that the German Government would shortly

announce increased taxation, but I was given no details.
Reichsbank

49

2-

income

the

KIRK.

EA:LWW

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

March 7, 1040.
MEMORANDUM. FOR

THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY

will you spent

to

about this?

F. D. R.

mc

(Translation)

H.Myz

heather striady
Code No 1313 sent from Helsinki March 1,1940, 21.35 'clock,
arrived in Washington March 1,1940, 4.15 o'clock.
General Lundkvist proposed February 22 to the U.S.A. Naval

Attache Commander Pihl orally, that U.S.A. would assist Finland in sending 150 pursuit planes and 36 fast bombers with
two motors, all with voluntary crews and equipments. The matter very urgent. In emergency to be bought. Asking urgent

reply.

Mannerheim.

WT

3/3/40.

timland

I tinlands most urgent needs of was
materials for which she applies from
the u.s.:
A. 150 Pursuit plunes (Brewster, 9 Human
Curics, Vultee, BM).

36 Light Bombern, twinengine fast
planes (Lockheed- Huckson, Donglas).
( Reference AIR. 5-100 - Pec. 1272),
stield

B. Hcevy Fartillery 2 ammunition.
300 pc 75 m/m18 us English field cannons
Simbard
with schange funders spare parts 2 equipments

50 pc Battery aiming cipeles for same.
32 pc. 8" Howitzers with Limbers, Spire parts
equipments 2 harnesses.

8000 pc Grenades filled with T.N.T. for same

10000 pc K empty
16000 pc Fuses
18000 pc. Powder charges

,

19000 pc Boarters
The aforesaid materials have already been amount

as surplus commoditus, that a country like
(Over).
P weden could buy.

53

March 7, 1940
11:45 a.m.

HM,Jr called General Watson and said to him:
The other day the President
asked me to see the Finnish Minister, after he had seen
"How are you, Pa?

him, to find out whether we could get him 186 planes.
"I saw General Arnold and Admiral Towers and

there is nothing that the Army and Navy have which
they could release at this time.

"I then put it up to the Allied Purchasing
Mission, because they have the planes on order, and
they said that they could not release any planes.

This had been taken up with the Supreme War Council
and they had turned it down.

Pres.

"We cannot get these planes for the Finns

anywhere in the United States. I wish that you
would tell that to the Finns. The Army and Navy
have been cooperative, but we cannot give the Finns
any
planes today. We could within a year, but not
now.
HM,Jr told Cochran, who had been listening

to this conversation, to call Mr. Gray and ask him
to pass this information on to Mr. Hull.

ADDRESS INPLY n

CHIEF OF THE AIR CORPS

54

MAR DEPARTMENT

WASHINGTON, D.C.

WAR DEPARTMENT
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF THE AIR CORPS
WASHINGTON

M

March 7, 1940.

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury.
Dear Mr. Secretary:

In compliance with your verbal request to Major General H. H.
Arnold, the Chief of the Air Corps, under date of March 6, 1940,

there is inclosed herewith a tabulation showing all airplane motors

of less than 1000 horsepower now under contracts of record and un-

delivered as of this date.

The tabulation shows contracts in existence with the Army,

Navy, commercial and export.

Sincerely yours,

Incl.

B. COUNT,
Brig. General, A. C.,
Assistant Chief/ of the Air Corps.

55

March 7, 1940.

The Honorable,

The Secretary of the Treasury.
Dear Mr. Secretary:

In compliance with your verbal request to Major General H. H.
Arnold, the Chief of the Air Corps, under date of March 6, 1940,
there is inclosed herewith a tabulation showing all airplane motors
of less than 1000 horsepower now under contracts of record and -

delivered as of this date.

The tabulation shows contracts in existence with the Army,
Havy, connercial and export.
Sincerely yours,

Incl.

B. K. YOUR
Brig. General, Air Corps,

Assistant Chief of the Air Corps.

CONFIDENTIAL
AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 H.P. ON ORDER BY DOMESTIC
AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 31, 1940

Manufacturer

Continental Motors
Corp.

Customer

Type

H.P.

Designation

Rating

R-670
A-65
A-65
A-65
A-65
A-65
A-75
R-670

Army Air Corps

Taylorcraft
Luscombe

Aeronca

Porterfield
Stinson
Waco

Delivered

Number

Undelivered

42

109

65

151
750

181

569

65

200

59

141

65

400

80

320

65

500

38

462

65

300

29

271

75

300

77

223

220

220

Total

Engine Company

Ordered

Number

Domestic:
Piper

Jacobs Aircraft

Number

0

3

2,604

506

2,098

3

Domestic:

Army Air Corps

R-755

225

150

1

149

Commercial
Commercial

L-6MB
L-4MB

225

26

1

25

170

10

2

8

L-4MB

170

8

2

6

194

6

Foreign:

Chilian National Airline
Total

Kinner Motors, Inc.

188

Foreign:
Canada

B-5

125

509

0

509

China

B-5

125

38

0

38

547

0

547

Total

CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL
in
AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 H.P. ON ORDER BY DOMESTIC
AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 31, 1940 (Cont'd)

Manufacturer

Customer

Type

Designation

Lycoming Division,
Aviation Corp.

H.P.

Rating

Number

Ordered

Number

Delivered

Number

Undelivered

Domestic:

Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps

R-680-9
R-680-11

Stearman

R-680
R-680
R-680

Stinson

Vega

Aeronca

280
220

143
180

32

143
148

220

150

134

16

220

22

10

12

280

2

0

2

317
582
500

0-145A1
0-145A1

Piper
Piper

Taylorcraft

0

50

400

83

50

750

168

GO-145C

50

500

0

0-145A1

50

400

129

271

0-145A1

50

50

39

11

2,597

595

2,002

Foreign:

Fairchild for export
Total

Ranger Aircraft
Engines

Domestic:

Fairchild for Army

Bellanca for Army
Navy

Fairchild
Spencer-Larson
Spencer-Larson
Grumman

Total

Rearwin Aircraft &
Engines, Inc.

L-440
XV-770
XV-770
6-4400

175

270

420
420

3

0

3

0

175

3

0

6-4400

175

1

0

6-440C
6-4400

175

4

0

175

2

0

2

286

2

268
3

3

3

1

4

2

284

Domestic:

Rearwin Aircraft
Rearwin Aircraft

Bellanca
Total

5F

-

7F

-

5F

2

0

8

2

3

0

6

13

CONFIDENTIAL

2

2

3

11

CONFIDENTIAL

8

ATRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 H.P. ON ORDER BY DOMESTIC

AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 31, 1940 (Cont'd)

Manufacturer

Pratt & Whitney

Aircraft Division

Customer

Type

H.P.

Designation

Rating

Number

Ordered

Number

Delivered

Number

Undelivered

Domestic:
R-1535
R-1690
R-1340
R-985
R-1340
R-1340
R-1340
R-985
R-1690
R-985

Navy
Navy
Navy
Navy

Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps
Misc. Commercial
Misc. Commercial

750

700

76
3

76

0

0

3

3

45

500

48

450

133

87

46

500

239

62

177

500

85

17

68

500

247

450

248
620

1

41

579

700

40

16

24

450

102

26

76

500
500

50

0

50

1

0

1

500

28

4

24

450

3

0

3

500

10

0

10

750

80

5

75

Foreign:

Australia
Brazil

Canadian P&W
Canadian P&W
China

Finland
France

Grumman for Asiatic Pet.
Holland

N. American for British
N. American for China
N. American for Venezuela

R-1340
R-1340
R-1340
R-985
R-1340
R-1535
R-1535
R-985
R-985
R-1340
R-1340
R-1340

Total

CONFIDENTIAL

1,100

28

1,072

1

0

1

450

21

0

21

500

750

0

750

500

50

6

44

500

3

0

3

3,691

296

750.
450

3,395

6

CONFIDENTIAL
AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 H.P. ON ORDER BY DOMESTIC
AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 31, 1940 (Cont'd)

Manufacturer

Wright Aeronautical
Corp.

Customer

Type

H.P.

Designation

Rating

Number

Number

Ordered

Delivered

Number

Undelivered

Domestic:

Army Air Corps
Foreign:
Argentine
Belgium

Brazil

Finland
Holland

N. American for France
N. American for France
N. American for France
N. American for France
Siam (Thailand)
Sweden

Turkey

R-975

400

134

0

R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975

400

15

10

5

400

20

0

20

Total

GRAND TOTAL

400
400

134

2

0

2

50

42

8

0

7

400

7

400

230

10

220

400

45

45

0

400

300

266

34

400

45

30

15

400

15

0

15

400

24

0

24

400

62

57

949

415

534

10,881

1,822

9,059

5

Mat. Plan. Sec., Mat. Div.,
Office, Chief of Air Corps,
March 7, 1940 (CHJ/gep).

CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL
AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 H.P. ON ORDER BY DOMESTIC
AND FORKION CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 33. 1940

Manufacturer

Continental Meters
Corp.

Customer

Type

Designation
Denesties
Army Air Corps
Piper

R-670
A-65
A-65
A-65
A-65
A-65
A-75
R-670

Taylorcraft

Inscomba
Aeroncas

Porterfield
Stinson
Waco

H.P.

Rating

Engine Company

Commercial
Commercial

Delivered

Number

Undelivered

in

80
38

462

65

400
500
300

109
569
142
320

29

272

75

300

77

223

220

3

0

2,604

506

2,098

225

150

1

149
25

65
65
65
65

Domestics

Army Air Corps

Ordered

Number

151
750
200

220

Total

Janoba Aircraft

Number

42
59

R-755
L-6MB
L-4MB

225

26

1

170

10

2

L-4HB

170
194

i

509

0

8

Persigns

Chillian National Airline
Total

Kinner Noters, Inc.

Foreign
Canada

China

B-5
B-5

Total

125
125

547

CONFIDENTIAL

509

CONFIDENTIAL
AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 N.P. II DOMESTIC
AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 31. 1960 (Gent'd)

Manufacturer

Customer

Type

Destination
Speening Division,
Aviation Corp.

Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps
Stinson

Member

Delivered

Number

220

243
180

R-680
B-680
R-680
0-245A2
0-245A2

220

150

220

22

234
20

200

2

e

2

50

400

w

327

50

SOR

50

o

500

Tayloreraft

50

750
500
400

168

00-2450
0-245A1

Fairchild for expert

0-245A1

50

Piper
Piper

Total

o

32

129

249
148
36
12

m

"
$3.97

Fairchild for Army
Bellanes for Army

Mavy

Fairchild
Spensor-Larsen
Spencer-Larson

Green

Total

Begines, Inc.

Ordered

280

Aerones

Boardia Aircraft &

Number

R-680-9
B-680-22

Vega

Enginee

Ratias

Donesting

Stearman

Ranger Aircraft

H.P.

L-440
27-770
25-770
6-4400
6-4400
6-4400
6-4400

175
420
420
175
175
275
275

270

2

3

o

266
,

3

o

,

3

e

,

2

0

1

4

o

4

I

Denection

Resrvin Aircraft
Rearwin Aircraft
Ballance
Total

5F

78
SF

CONFIDENTIAL

-

a

e

a

8

2

6

CONFIDENTIAL

g

AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 2000 N.P. OR ORDER BY DOMESTIC
AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUANX 32. 1940 (Cent'd)

Thanfasture

Custém

Type

N.P.

Number

Designation

Ration

Onlared

Number

Delivered

Number

Infolivered

Pratt & Whitney

Airwraft Division

B-1535
R-1690
B-1340

Mavy

Havy
Mary

R-985
R-1340
B-1340
B-3340
B-985
B-1690
R-985

Marry

Arway Mr Corps

Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps
Army Air Corps
Mise. Commercial
Misc. Commercial

750
700
500
450
500
500
500
450
700

76

0

76

3

0

,

48

,

45

133

87

u

239

62

177

85

17

u

1

267

248
620

4

40

16

450

202

26

579
24
76

500
500

50

o

90

1

0

2

500
450
500

28

4

as

3

0

,

10

o

20

80

5

75

1,100

28

1,072

1

0

1

21

0

750
90

o

Foreigns

Australia
Branil
Canadian PEEN

Canadian PAN
China

Finland
France

Green for Asiatic Pet.

Helland

N. American for British
N. American for China
N. American for Venemela
Total

R-1340
R-1340
R-1340
R-985
B-1340
B-1535
B-1535
R-985
R-985
B-1340
B-1340
B-3340

CONFIDENTIAL

750
750
450
450
500
500

500

3

3,691

6

n
790
44

9

CONFIDENTIAL
AIRCRAFT ENGINES UNDER 1000 H.P. ON ORDER BY DOMESTIC
AND FOREIGN CUSTOMERS AS OF JANUARY 32. 1940 (Cent'd)

Insurance
Wright Aeronautical
Corp,

Customer

Type

H.P.

Number

Designation

Ratins

Ordered

Number

Delivered

Number

Indelivered

Democrine

Army Air Corps

B-975

400

134

o

Argentino

R-975
R-975
R-975
R-975
B-975
B-975
B-975
B-975
B-975
B-975
B-975
B-975

400
400
400
400
400
400
400
400
400

15

10

5

20

e

20

2

o

2

50

42

e

7

0

7

230

20

220

45

0

45

300

266

45

30

34
as

15

0

25

24

0

24

Belgim
Branil
Pinland
Holland

N American for France
x American for France
N. American for France
N. American for Fresse
Sim (Thailand)
Sandon

Turkey

Total

GRAND TOTAL

400
400
400

134

ST

949

49

534

10,000

1,822

9,059

Mat. Plan. See., Nat. Div.
Office, Chief of Air Corps,

March 7, 1940 (cas/gup).

CONFIDENTIAL

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INFIDENTIAL)

PARAPHRASE
A telegram of March 7. 1940, from the American

Consul at Rangoon reads substantially as follows:
Arrangements have been made to ship to Rangoon

during the next sixty days about five million ounces

of silver. Most of the silver is to be in the form of
coins and shipment is to be made by rail and road and
has been arranged by the Central Bank of China. The

destination of the silver which will not be sold until
all of it has arrived at Rangoon may be New York,
London, or Bombay. One per cent ad valorem transit

duty will be collected by the customs officials at
Rangoon. There are now on the way over the Yunnan-

Burma road the first of the eighty to one hundred
trucks needed to transport the silver.

893.515/1482

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TELEGRAM SENT
GRAY

JR

March 7, 1940
1 p.m.
AMEMBASSY

LONDON (ENGLAND)

435.

From the Secretary of the Treasury for Butterworth and
forwarding by mail to Paris and Berlin.
The Secretary of the Treasury announced on March 7 the

offer at par of 3/4 per cent Series A-1945 Treasury Notes
dated March 15, 1940 and maturing March 15, 1945 in Exchange

for 1 1/2 per cent Treasury notes of Series B-1940 maturing
June 15, 1940 of which the outstanding amount is now
7,838,428,400.

HULL

(HF)

EA:HF:LWW

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JR

GRAY

Berlin
Dated March 7, 1940

Rec'd 1:15 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

569, March 7, 9 a.m.

liy 325, February 7, noon.
TREASURY FROM HEATH.

Commercial and Treasury bill holdings of the
Reichsbank increased by 958,000,000 marks during the

last WEEK of February to a total of 11,825,000,000 marks
previous

which is 433,000,000 marks above the/peak figure reached on
December 30, 1939. On the other hand since DECEMBER 30 the

Reichsbank+s portfolio of Eligible securities has
decreased by 632,000,000 marks to a total of 172,000,000

marks. Holdings of other securities on February 29 stood
at 367,000,000 marks or 26,00C, 00 marks less than on
DECEMBER 30 and collateral loans at 37,000,000 marks or

7,000,000 marks higher than at the year End. The
Reichsbank's holdings of all these items together (commercial

and Treasury bills collaterol loans and all securities)
WERE 12,401,000,000 marks on February 29 or 218,000,000 marks

less than on DECEMBER 30 but 451,000,000 marks higher than
on

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on January 31. It appears that the Reichsbank has taken
advantage of favorable market conditions to dispose of

its portfolio of Eligible securities (which stood at
1,441,000,000 marks on October 31 last) but the money
market WCS not quite liquid Enough to absorb the

Reichsbank's security sales and the continuing large issues
of Government short term paper as well and accordingly
the banks had to avail themselves increasingly of their

discount facilities at the Reichsbank.
The Reichabank's miscellaneous assets (which

include the Reichs direct borrowing) decreased by
116,000,000 marks to 1,779,000,000 marks during the

latter WEEK of the month the peak figure for February
having been reached on February 15 with 2,103,000,000

marks. .This differs greatly from the usual changes in
this
item the higher figure ordinarily falling at
the End of the month when the Reich borrows to mEET
heavy monthend EXPENSES.

Reichsbank notes in circulation increased by
768,000,000 marks during the last WEEK of February to

11,877,000,000 marks which is likewise above the previous
peak figure of 11,798,000,000 marks reached DECEMBER 30

last. HOWEVER wherens there were 2,018,000,000 marks of
sight deposits on DECEMBER 30 on February 29 these
amounted

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-3- #569, March 7, 9 a.m., from Berlin.
amountEd to only 15,059,000,000 marks practically no

increase having taken place during the last WEEK of
February. There WC.S a negligible decrease in the
Reichsbank's coin holdings and a 41,000,000 mark decrease

in its holdings of Rentenbank notes but this probably
resulted from the retirement of nickel one mark coins
on March 2. It is to be anticipated that the Rentenbank's
forthcoming statements will show contravention increases
in the amount of Rentenbank notes issued since they will
be used to replace the one mark coins of which 419,000,000
marks were in circulation on December 30 last.
The February 29 report omitted the usual statement

of monthly clearings of the Reichsbank. It is assumed
it will be mode public later in this month.
KIRK
HPD

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GROUP MEETING

Present:

Mr. Bell

March 7, 1940.
9:30 a.m.

Mr. White

Mr. Harris

Mr. Graves
Mr. Schwarz

Mr. Foley
Mr. Cotton

Mr. Cochran

Mr. Thompson

Mr. Sullivan

Mrs Klotz
H.M.Jr:

Ed?

Foley:

I have nothing.

H.M.Jr:

You people might be interested to know - I
think it has quite a lot of significance.
We were trying to get 186 planes for the
Finns and the only place in the United States
where you can get them any kind of a delivery
was if the French would give them up. They
sent word to us last night at 5:00 o'clock
that this matter had been considered by the
Supreme War Council some time ago and the
French didn't consider they could give them
any more help than they had and they couldn't
give them any more planes that they had on
order here, which means, I guess, that the
Finns won't get any planes anywhere. But I
went over the thing twice, both with General
Arnold and Admiral Towers and there just
aren't any. They can't produce them.

Cotton:

Are
they trying to buy any regular artillery
ammunition?

H.M.Jr:

I don't know. I heard about it a month ago,
but I don't know what happened on it.

Cotton:

I happened to run into Byrd's pilot, this
Norweigan, who seems to know a good deal
about it. He said that the calibre of the
Finnish gur. is different from the French and
British gun and they are having terrible
trouble with that.

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-2H.M.Jr:

Cotton:
H.M.Jr:

Cochran:

H.M.Jr:

I can't hear, Joe.
On account of the difference of the calibre of
their ordinary light auxiliary, that that was
the major shortage, the light artillery shells.
Procope, at my request, is giving to Cochran
for me a list of their military purchases that
they either have or are making, so we are getting
that. He is making that out.
He is giving us the civilian, too.
So we are getting that from Procope. That man
that I want for dinner tonight is out, because
we just got a call to come to the White House
for supper.

Cochran:

So I shan't call him?

H.M.Jr:

No.

Cochran:

I have nothing.

H.M.Jr:

Today is the seventh. Does anybody know what
happened to the Brazilian debt?

Cochran:

Nothing since yesterday. They said they were
still telephoning. They had Francis White in
for two hours even before he knew about that

and six State Department men with Francis White.
They were getting some State Department training,

they said, six against one.

H.M.Jr:

He must be a good man.

Cochran:

He is.

H.M.Jr:

Who won?

Co chran:

Well, it was a draw, I should say. He just refrained from saying anything in the communique
which the Association will get out, but he
didn't at that time have the agreement of the
Association to that position.

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-3White:

You mean their training made them less
effective?

Cochran:

Made them too effective.

H.M.Jr:

These Whites, you know, are tough guys.

White:

I looked that fellow up and I found a lot

in sympathy with him. One White against
six State Department fellows.
H.M.Jr:

You have had that - you have done better
than that, haven't you?

White:

How many have they got there? I think they

have got I hope that won't get back to
them before tonight. I will be seeing some

of them.
H.M.Jr:

Chick?

Schwarz:

I have this memo (Re Horner on Committee In-

vestigating Aeronautical Industry).
H.M.Jr:
Schwarz:

H.M.Jr:

There wasn't anything in the papers about it.
They had nothing in the Times, but at least
they didn't repeat it in the morning papers,
the other story, either.
I am just going to say - and you might check

it - if they ask me about it, I didn't know
that Arnold's testimony had been released. I
thought it was confidential, so how can I tell
them about it?
Schwarz:

That is right.

H.M.Jr:

Fine.

Basil?

Harris:

No thing.

H.M.Jr:

I referred to you a matter that had twelve
signatures on it and it wasn't enough, whether

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Harris:

we should build a door to the Port there in
New York and I thought it was so important
that I would let you pass on it.
It has already gone through.

H.M.Jr:

All right, but I couldn't decide. Incidentally,

Klotz:

And it has expired.

H.M.Jr:

I have a letter here and I would like to know (Feb. 20)
if anybody could help. This man has been asked
by a friend to dispose of a terra cotta bust
of President Monroe. They want to sell it to
the Government. Copeland introduced the bill,
et cetera and so on.

If Oliphant was here, I could turn it over to
of things. Who would there be on the Hill who

him, because he was interested in those kind
would be interested in having the Government
buy a bust of President Monroe?

White:

Bloom. He is interested in all busts.

H.M.Jr:

I thought he stopped at Washington.

White:

H.M.Jr:

No, that is where he started.
Well, anyway, seriously - Harry is blushing,
isn't he?

White:

It is just a cold.

H.M.Jr:

Klotz:

Who is there - is there anybody up on the Hill?
No one is anxious to help.

Bell:

Somebody might from Virginia, Woodrum?

H.M.Jr:

How about Harry Byrd?

Foley:

If it costs any money, he wouldn't be interested.

H.M.Jr:

Yes, he might.

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5Schwarz:

He is on our side this week.

Cotton:

How much do they want for it?

White:

How much are you offering?

Harris:

Isn't there some society that is interested
in Madison or - it strikes me they were active
not long ago in trying to buy the house where

he was born somewhere on the East side.
White:

H.M.Jr:
Foley:
H.M.Jr:

Foley:
H.M.Jr:

I think probably the American Historical Society
here would be able to put you right on it.
Bruce isn't here, is he?
I think he is in Key West.
Why don't you have our man on the Hill - he
isn't very busy, is he? He hasn't got anything to do. What is he doing?
He is watching our interests on the Hill.
Well, anyway, why not ask our man to see if
there is anybody from Virginia?

Foley:

Sure.

H.M.Jr:

Harry?

White:

Nothing.

Harris:

He was a graduate of Princeton. Maybe they

H.M.Jr:

You might have somebody speak to - let Hunting-

would be interested in that.

ton get in on this and let him speak to Forbes

Watson. Mrs. Klotz said Mrs. Morgenthau could
take it up with Ed Bruce. You know Forbes

Watson. Huntington could do it. Give it a
little push.
Harold, I have got something here from Mr.
Arundel. (March 6)
Graves:

It is a great thing.

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-6H.M.Jr:

I don't get its significance.

Sullivan:

It is.

Graves:

If we set up regular calendars for the Board
of Tax Appeals, it would be a great improve-

ment over their itinerant, more or less spasmodic calendars which they have always had.

H.M.Jr:

O. K.

Mr. Bell?
Bell:

Do you want to keep this exchange offering
open two or three days?

H.M.Jr:

Oh, I think we will let it run through Saturday.

Bell:

Then we had probably better announce for to-

morrow morning's papers that it will close
Saturday. Mr. Biddle, Solicitor General, called
me last night and called my attention to the
fact that the Burland Printing Company, tied up
with this indictment in New York, is contractor
for printing literature on Savings bonds.
H.M.Jr:

Savings bonds?

Bell:

Yes, and I think Gene Sloan and Bryan looked

into it previously, but he suggested we might
want to investigate it because there was a
rumor going around New York that there is some
connection between these people that are in-

H.M.Jr:

dicted and the Treasury.
Is there?

Bell:

I don't think so.

H.M.Jr:

What work do they do for us?

Bell:

Print our literature. They have a contract.

Ed is going to have a man go with one of
Chick Schwarz's men and investigate this thing

from the angle here. Biddle suggested that

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-7 we might want to have an outside investigation

and not let the Treasury do it. It might look
a little better. I told him we would take it

under consideration.
H.M.Jr:

I have, and I am opposed to it.

Bell:

I suppose he wanted the FBI to do it. I don't
know. I didn't ask him.

Thompson:

I think we are all right as far as our contract

is concerned. I have checked with the printing
division.
H.M.Jr:

Just while we are talking, it made me think of
Bryan. Last night I was at Bob Jackson's and
he told me - at this press club. Was anybody
here at this press club dinner when they had
the ten men tell why they shouldn't run for
President?

Bell:

No.

H.M.Jr:

It seems that everybody got up in good fun with
the exception of Tom Dewey and Tom Dewey proceeded to give the Treasury hell because they

were attacking McNutt and had no reason to and

did this thing at this dinner.
Schwarz:

I have a report on that.

H.M.Jr:

Wasn't Bryan there or somebody?

Schwarz:

Jim Bryan.

H.M.Jr:

Yes. Ask him about it. He said it was the

most amazing thing. He said McNutt sat there
and squirmed in his chair while Dewey attacked

Foley:
H.M.Jr:

the United States Treasury for doing this thing.
He said everybody else was there and having a
good time and telling why they shouldn't be
a candidate, but Dewey took it on himself.
Mr. Bryan told me Dewey was serious. He couldn't
have been doing it for the fun of it.
I didn't like that Pearson and Allen story
yesterday which was too accurate to be funny.

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-8Why do they get all that stuff? Now, Elmer
Irey gave me the name of the reporter th o
gets it from the Attorney General's office,
if you want it. He has got it. He has the
name of the reporter who is getting the
stuff right out of the Attorney General's
office.
Foley:

They never got that out of the Attorney
General's office, that story. They haven't
got that much information over there. That
stuff could have come only out of the Treasury
or the United States Attorney's office in
Indianapolis.

Schwarz:

I think Pearson went out to Indianapolis.

H.M.Jr:

I didn't mean that story. There is a report
that Sullivan of Indianapolis says - he
mentions his name, who is getting the stuff
out of the Attorney General's office. Get
Irey to give you the name of that reporter.
But you think that could only come out of
the - it couldn't have come out of the

Treasury?

Foley:

Why not?

H.M.Jr:

Where?

Foley:

I think it could have come out of the Treasury.

H.M.Jr:

You mean here in Washington?

Foley:

Sure, or the U. S. Attorney's office in Indianapolis, but I don't think it could have come
out of the Department of Justice.

H.M.Jr:

Which division?

Foley:

I don't know, Mr. Secretary.

H.M.Jr:

Well, my guess is it came out of Indianapolis,
because in the seven years I have been here,

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-9we haven't had a leak like that. I think
you ought to look into it.
Schwarz:

I will.

H.M.Jr:

O. K. Gentlemen, we have still got Norman
Thompson, you know. You are in a hurry,
I thought you dismissed the class.

White:
Thompson:

I have nothing. I have spoken to Miss Lonigan
and she is taking it with good grace.

H.M.Jr:

You stay a minute.
Now, gentlemen, you can go.

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March 7, 1940

3 p. m.
Present:

Mr. Purvis

Mr. Pleven
Mr. Bloch-Laine

Col. Jacquin

Sir Herbert Self

Captain Collins
Mrs. Klotz

Mr. Cochran

HM,Jr: I think going abroad agrees with
these people. Leroy-Beaulieu came in just blooming health!
Mr. Purvis: Breezes across the Atlantic,
which I understand were rather strong.
HM,Jr: Were you (Pleven) air sick?
Mr. Pleven: Not at all..
HM,Jr: I would not ask the Colonel.
Mr. Bloch-Laine: If he were he would not ad-

mit it.

Mr. Purvis: I was going to suggest that Mons.
Pleven, 11 it was on the aircraft end, describe the
situation as he encountered it.
Mr. Pleven: Mr. Secretary, when, as you re-

member, when we came first with Colonel Greenley
and Colonel Jacquin, the scheme which we had been

requested to investigate was to find out whether it
was possible to obtain a very large additional quantity of aircraft which would have been available in
the early part of 1941.

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HM,Jr: Uhm!

Mr. Pleven: When the investigation proceeded
we found that on account of the engines bottleneck
it was not possible to secure any large quantity of
engines if we were keeping to the date of the Spring
of 1941 and we had to extend -- and we took the decision on ourselves -- the time limit to September,
1941. In spite of this, however, we could not reach
exactly the quantity of engines which would have been
necessary to get 10,000 planes and we finally landed,
if I can use that word, with a number of engines which
would have been sufficient to equip 8,000 planes, but
those planes would not have been available before the
last part of 1941.
When we reported the results of our investigation to the two Governments, this question and the
time at which the surplus of material would be available was considered as a most essential point, because considering the very heavy expenditure which
would have to be undertaken and which meant that the
two countries would have to sacrifice certain other
things 1f they were not to lessen the high mark on
the aviation program, the fact that the planes would
not be available before the last part of 1941 -- and
that was subject to not hitch coming -- had the effect to reduce the value of the program from the point
of view which was most paramount to the Government:
the possibility of shortening the war.

For this reason, therefore, the results of our
investigation made it necessary to revise the original
conception of the two Governments when they had asked
us to carry this investigation. They realized that
even by spending a tremendous amount, they could not

get what they would have wanted earlier in 1941. At
the same time, they were continually aware of the fact
that to employ the maximum output of the American industry remained essential for the Allies, because it
was considered a second line of supply and reassurance should the very large programs of output in
England and France be disturbed during this critical
year of 1940 by certain destructions.
.

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with this change of conception, necessarily
certain technical changes had to follow in the
way. If the engines could have been available
at the end of 1940 or early part of 1941, then we
could have mounted them without hesitation on the
types of planes which are now ready for production
and which are satisfactory for fighting under the
fighting conditions which will prevail in 1940, but
if the engines, as it is, will only be available in
great numbers as, say, from the middle of 1941, then
we must think in terms of planes which will meet
the fighting conditions which we assume will exist
in the middle of 1941 and that means the necessity,
as far as fighting planes are concerned, as pursuit
planes are concerned, of must faster planes than
those we are now receiving from the States, and, as
regards bombers, also certain types of changes in
the bombers, because the bombers we receive now are
all right for 1940, but not for 1941.
The Government then made this decision of policy,
which was outlined in the telegram which was sent to
Mr. Purvis, and we have been sent -- Sir Henry Self,
Colonel Jacquin and I -- with the idea now of formalizing and making definite proposals to be put forward to the American industry to get final prices
and final contract and, as outlined, the instructions
which have been given to us means that we are to try
to acquire practically as many engines as we can get
within the limits which had been found under our investigation of December and January, and as regards
the number of planes, roughly, 5,000 planes.

This is what now we are going to try to obtain
in the negotiations which we would like to open with
the industry. But in view of the fact that we require the types of planes which will be satisfactory
for fighting in 1941. We are coming to you, Mr.
Secretary, with new requests. They are to obtain
release of certain types which we believe have been
studied precisely for 1941 conditions in this country.
HM,Jr: May I ask you a question. When you

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say 5000 planes, have you divided those as between
bombers and fighting planes, pursuit planes?

Mr. Pleven: The proposition as finally agreed
upon would be two-fifths -- 2,000 bombers and 3,000
fighters, but from the point of view of engines, it
does not make much difference, because very close
consideration is going to be given to two-engine
pursuit planes.

HM,Jr: How many engines do you have in mind?

Mr. Pleven: Practically the same number of en-

gines as before.

HM,Jr: What was that?

Mr. Pleven: It is about 12,000. Originally

we had 14,600 engines and now it makes 12,000 engines.

HM,Jr: 2,000 fighters?
Mr. Pleven: 3,000 fighters; 2,000 bombers.
HM,Jr: And you want a plane that will be, 80

to speak, one cycle ahead of what you have now.

Mr. Pleven: of what we are taking now.

Mr. Purvis: Because it will be for 1941 fighting

conditions.

HM,Jr: Have you something particular in mind?

Mr. Pleven: Very particularly, Mr. Secretary.

We try always to be concrete.
(Mr. Purvis handed a document to the Secretary.)
HM,Jr: Wonderful!

Mr. Purvis: One sheet!
HM,Jr: May I read this out loud?

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HM,Jr: (Reading)

"In order to finalize the proposals which the
two Governments wish to negotiate with the American
industry, the following is essential:
Engines

1. In view of the importance of obtaining
as powerful engines as possible, we would ask
for the release of certain types of superchargers
(turbo and two stage) which we are under the

impression the engine companies have developed

but which have not yet been released.

2. We are anxious to obtain the release of
an improved type of Allison engine which we
understand has been developed for use on the
newest fighters.
Airplanes

In view of the fact that the bulk of the

additional engines which we shall obtain will
only be available for mounting on air frames
during the year 1941, we need to order the types
of airplanes which will meet the war conditions
prevailing in 1941, and for this reason access
to complete information on the following air-

planes 18 desired:

A. Pursuit airplanes
Lockheed intercepter P.38
Bell P.39
Improved Curtiss

Generally any other type of fighter

which would be serviceable in 1941.

B. Bombers

We believe that new types of bombers
have been developed for the American
Army and Navy, and we also would

wish to have information on those,
including big four engined bombers
and dive bombers.

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"The information necessary for the taking of
decisions would cover, for example, the results of
the engine manufacturers' tests on engines and also
the results of Service and manufacturers' trials of
airplanes, with details of performance and handling
qualities."
(HM,Jr concluded reading the message.)

HM,Jr: Well, I can't give you the answer on
this now, because you are getting into things which
affect our Army and Navy and I don't know how they
are going to feel. I don't know how they are going
to feel. But we can find out. I have had the last
two days -- I have met with them twice now to get
ready for this, with General Arnold and with Admiral
Towers.

This speed business, of getting these planes
that fly 400 miles an hour and really do it honestly
is something still to be proven. They have not accepted the Bell plane yet and it has not come within

20 miles of what they claim for it. It's down in
the wind tunnel for the third time. That's in the

room here. It has not come up to specifications.
What did they say? It wasn't as fast as
Capt. Collins: A drag, they said, of 20 miles
that should not be there.

HM,Jr: And Allison is having engine trouble
in production. He's behind now on their production.

Mr. Purvis: That's crank shafts, I think.
HM,Jr: No. He says they are going from 700
men to 3,000 men and it's a question of breaking
these men in.

Mr. Purvis: Yes.
HM,Jr: But they are behind for the Army in
their production. Where General Motors was going

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to teach the other fellows how to do it, they are
going to have to teach themselves first.
Mr. Purvis: That is a prime point, because I

understood there was another factor - crank shafts.

HM,Jr: That I don't know, but they are having

production difficulty. Well

Mr. Pleven: You appreciate, Mr. Secretary, that
is those types which we finally would order, but before making the decision whether it's a P-40, the
Curtiss P-40, or the Bell, which should be Allison,
we should like precisely to know the type of information you are just giving us now. We would like
to be sure we order the very best.
HM,Jr: The manufacturers can't give that to
the types we have mentioned here do not mean that it

you, can they?

Mr. Pleven: No, because they have not the right
to talk to us unless they are authorized to do so.
Captain Collins: Not on a restricted ship.

Mr. Purvis: For instance, I believe the Allison

men took that up with General Arnold in regard to the
P-39 at the time when we thought that we could get a

trial order in and his indication was the instruction

would have to come from higher up.

HM,Jr: I can't give you any answer today, other
than I will simply have to find out what can be done.
I would not even attempt to give an answer today, because you are asking something that is quite difficult.
That's why I thought possibly you would be glad to
sell 150 of those P-36's to the Finns.
Mr. Pleven: We are giving them much more than

150 planes.

HM,Jr: Really!

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Spring.

Mr. Purvis: It's still 1940 and it's the

HM,Jr: You have not been permitted, Colonel
to see any of these more advanced planes?

Col. Jacquin: Not of those types. Only Col.
Zigler has seen the Bell.
HM,Jr: Here's what you gentlemen have got to
make up your mind and you can help me in the deci-

sion. Take, for example, I got permission that you
could buy the Bell P-39. It has not been accepted
yet by our Army. You would not want to buy a plane
that is not approved?

Sir Henry Self: May I observe there, Mr. Secretary, that there is a point in our experience, as
you no doubt experience here, that you have to take a
decision as to how long you can go on that existing
type with the possibility, as Mons. Pleven stated, we
shall, as far as 1941 fighting is concerned, have reached
the stage where we shall probably have to take the
risk.
HM,Jr: That makes a lot of difference. Just
using again this Bell. If you wanted to gamble on
that.

Col. Jacquin: But there are many types: the
Bell, the improved Curtiss, there is the Lockheed.
We have in mind to get the three, but the quantity
of each, that would be directed by the test made by
the officials of the Service. For example, if they
are in favor of the Curtiss or the Lockheed, we will
take the Bell.
HM,Jr: Even though they have not been accepted

by our Army or Navy?

Col. Jacquin: Maybe decision 18 not taken. I
don't know, but I think tests are finished now.

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Captain Collins: On the original French pro-

gram,
light bombers bought were off the drawing
board.

Col. Jacquin: That's right for Douglas. The

manufacturer test and some official test were already
done. The decision was to take them.
HM,Jr: Would you be saving any time if you
started talking with the engine people?

Mr. Pleven: It is our intention. We will not

waste any time.

HM,Jr: Will you start with them?

Sir Henry Self: I think the position is the

engine situation is the crux of the whole thing and
whatever air frames or airplanes that these engines

go in, the first important thing is to clear the

engine production in terms of types, but there is
in relation to that the question of the improved
Allison and the supercharger question which we shall
have to keep in mind in the course of these discussions.

HM,Jr: That is not so difficult. You are asking for something special. The other thing. You

are asking for something which is more difficult.
Captain Collins: Two restricted engines.
HM,Jr: They don't specify.
Captain Collins: But they are restricted.
HM,Jr: They ought to give them to me. If you
will give me the number of the engines you want, I
can ask and is this sufficient for me to say "release
a certain type of superchargers"? I have to have the
type and name.

Captain Collins: That's understandable to these
people.

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Mr. Pleven: Pratt-Whitney and Allison.

HM,Jr: If you give it to me -- now, turbo and
the two-stage, it doesn't mean anything to me. If
you will tell me now, on engines, what engines you
want released and what it is.

Mr. Purvis: I think what we ought to do is
take back the memorandum and particularize. I
think Captain Collins could particularize, because,

in a way, we are speaking about things without
HM,Jr: Somebody said you want a. release on
two engines. They have a serial number, and who
makes them? I don't have to go over the ground
more than once.

Mr. Purvis: I quite agree, because otherwise

there might be misunderstanding.

HM,Jr: I want to go and say, "Is it possible

to get a release on engine XYZ made by such and such

a company?"

Mr. Purvis: Yes. I can see that. Particu-

larize on that paragraph.

Col. Jacquin: That is very easy. I have not

now the exact figure, but we could give them to
Captain Collins.

Mr. Purvis: Would you like that to be retyped?

The whole thing?

HM,Jr: I am at the White House tonight, 80 if

I could get it the first thing
ing.

Mr. Purvis:

the first thing after this meet-

HM,Jr: The engine thing, you could start there
and know much more definitely. I take it what you
want is all the horsepower you can get and then you
can adapt the plane around the engine.

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Sir Henry Self: That's right.
Mr. Pleven: The object was to work immediately on the engine, but superchargers are very
important because it allows the engines to take
the planes at a speed of 25 miles higher.
HM,Jr: One thing, while we are talking on

engines -- this may not be feasible, but I just
want to bring this to your attention: I have here,

from the Army, the number of engines that the English and French have on order for Allison, 1000 HP.
Now, do you want to make a note of this: You most

likely know this, but France has on order with
Pratt-Whitney 1100 R1535, which is a 750 HP engine,
and you have only had delivery of 28. The British

have the R1340, 500 HP. You have 750 on order and
none delivered. Now, with the Wright Company,
France, R975, 230 ordered; 10 delivered, 400 HP.

You have got another order in there for 45 and
there are none delivered. Another order for 300,
of which there are only 34 delivered. Another order for 45, of which there are only 15 delivered.
Now, as I say there, I don't know, but the
reason I am bringing the attention to it -- two
types of engines, one 750 HP and another 400HP --

lot of engines there -- of the possibility of transferring that to some other company. Just think
about it.

Mr. Purvis: I can identify the British. Our

750 are for training purposes, which have been ordered by Canada and for Canada.

HM,Jr: In talking it over with General Arnold
the possibility if the English and French wanted to

and Admiral Towers, the only thought they had was

transfer some of these to another company, get
another company, and have them begin to build up

on the 500HP or the 750 HP and get a fourth company

going instead of just three -- the possibility of

transferring some of these smaller engines, particularly the 400 HP.

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Col.

Jacquin: When you say transfer, those
particular engines would be built in another com-

pany?

Mr. Purvis: Same type, under license.
HM,Jr: Same type. This is suggested by
General Arnold and Admiral Towers -- the possibility of going to some other company that is a
successful builder, but building engines of less
horsepower, but, you see, only three companies that
build you engines of 1,000 HP or more. Now, you
might get a fourth or fifth company to take the
smaller engines and let Pratt-Whitney and the others
concentrate on the bigger engines.
Col. Jacquin: I remember when we made our inquiry about the engine, we thought of that transfer
and we put the question to the manufacturer and they
were not willing to do that.

HM,Jr: After all, if you are holding out this
order to Pratt-Whitney and Wright and say gentlemen,
as part of the condition we want you -- after all,
Wright licenses the Russian Government to build
planes in Russia, so it is pretty hard to say they
won't permit an American company to build, especi-

ally if your orders are contingent upon that. We
have been all through this, as engines is the

controlling fact or and only three companies can build
them and Allison is behind them
.

Col. Jacquin: Tools to build those engines
are not the same necessary to build bigger engines,
so they have to give their tools to the other com-

panies.

HM,Jr: Some of the tools are the same.

Mr. Purvis: Your point is experienced labor
would be available for the larg machines.
HM,Jr: And then you always have the unhappy
thought one of these might be dynamited, and then

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where are you? You have this intense concen-

tration in three cities. You dynamite Pratt-

Whitney and Wright, and then where are you?

Col. Jacquin: There are many other plants
which are very good, but they don't build over

300 HP.

HM,Jr: You are quite right. But they can.
As a matter of fact, there are two or three com-

panies that are now building experimental engines
for the Army and Navy that are only building 200
HP, but have experimental engines for 1000 HP, like
Lycoming. You understand?

Mr. Purvis: Yes. I see.
HM,Jr: All of these are suggestions as to the
possibility.
Mr. Purvis: And they are in the minds of the
Services that are interested in this whole situation.
HM,Jr: And it would be pleasing to both the
Army and Navy if this was done. They had one other
suggestion, which I would like to bring to the attention. I asked them for suggestions because I am
trying to bring them into the picture and I would
like to have them feel a little happy about this.
So I said to them, have you any suggestions in regard to the Allied purchasing, as to where orders

might be placed where they have not been placed
before and they had two suggestions. One was Grauman,

who has a very good fighter in production now for the
Navy. It is faster than the P-36. In production
now. Are you familiar with the Grauman?
Col. Jacquin: Yes, I a.m.

HM,Jr: They are in production. And the other
suggestion is Boeing. Neither of the plants is very

busy. Grauman is making a four-engine bomber. But
the thought that the Army and Navy had was that they

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might get a license to make a fighter, and, you
see, they are located up in Seattle, entirely
away from all other airplane manufacturers and
their labor conditions are very good up there.
They are the suggestion of the General and the
Admiral. You might consider Grauman and you
might consider Boeing, and they both have good production, good factory and are good companies and
have no export orders from anybody.

Captain Collins: Grauman may have some small
orders, but Boeing has none.
HM,Jr: Grauman has some from Belgium.

Captain Collins: I think 8 from Belgium.
HM,Jr: But Grauman are in production for the
Navy and the Navy thinks very highly of them. And
Boeing is turning out two of these bombers a day
so they are in good shapre. But if you could give
me this with the specific things you want in engines,
and then I will see what I can do for you in getting
you to have a chance to look into the future. That's
what you want.

Mr. Pleven: That's right, Sir.
Col. Jacquin: That can be done very quickly.
HM,Jr: But to look into the future, not 80 quickly.
I see what you want and I don't blame you.

Mr. Purvis: It's logical.
HM,Jr: It's logical.
Sir Henry Self: If you saw no objection, I had
it might be useful to open preliminary talks with the
air frame people without in any way infringing on the
restrictions imposed on them. Take the case of Boeing,
capacity that you mentioned. If Lockheed are the key
firm, supposing the Lockheed P-38 was a practical proposition, it would be so simple to ask Lockheed to look
hoped that my colleagues would feel on these points

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at the possibility of working with Boeing to in-

sure
that
theycoast.
had a proper group arrangement going
for the
West

HM,Jr: I would think that -- certainly I am
not placing any restrictions and, as I told Mr.
Purvis, I should think that you would be seeing
these people up in New York and getting started,
and the same with the engine people. It's this
kind of thing that Captain Collins and I will have
to work through for you once we know what the specific things are that you want. And this suggestion
of Boeing and Grauman are just suggestions, you un-

derstand, but they come from the head of the Air
Corps of the Army and Navy as just simple suggestions.
Don't want to give the Finns anything?

Mr. Pleven: I don't think it is quite fair to

ask us this question.

HM,Jr: It's just as fair to put it to me.
Bloch-Laine: We are only purchasers in
this Mr.
country. We don't happen to be sellers.
HM,Jr: You feel about your airplanes the way
Congress
about
buy
it anddoes
not sell
it. silver. I buy -- I can. only

Well, if I get that information, I will try to

get it for you as fast as I can.

Mr. Purvis: Thank you very much.
mind?

HM,Jr: If there anything else you have on your
Mr. Purvis: If I could have a moment with you

on alloys.

HM,Jr: Fine!
And please feel free to come back and when I get this

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information I will try to get it for you. Are

you gentlemen going back to New York?

Mr. Pleven: I think we had the idea to spend
perhaps two or three days here and, as we understand
now, it is preferred that we should have our meetings
in
New York not to attract too much attention, I believe.

HM,Jr: I think New York is a little bit bigger

than Washington. Washington is an awfully small
village and I think if these preliminary meetings
are up there, I think the chance for secrecy is
better and then as you get along

Mr. Pleven: So perhaps we shall be here until
Friday night or Saturday and then our meetings start
in New York on Monday morning.

HM,Jr: But you will be here tomorrow?
Mr. Pleven: Oh, yes!

Mr. Purvis: That will not bar us from coming

back to Captain Collins?
HM,Jr: Oh, no!

Mr. Cochran: As we came in, there were a number
of press men outside and Mr. Schwarz wanted to ask

you if these men, if they wanted to see the press.

HM,Jr: They asked me when the Mission was coming

and I believe the truth is always right and I told
them this afternoon.

Mr. Purvis: The press knowing this meeting having

taken place, 1f some simple announcement should be

made

HM,Jr: I told them because they asked me, because the announcement of you three gentlemen coming
back was in the papers, so I said you would be here
at 3. I thought it was much better to say it; no
reason to hide it.

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Mr. Purvis: Very wise. I don't think any-

thing should be said about types.

HM,Jr: All I would say is a meeting took
place, 80 anything that would possibly be said
by us would be more in the nature ....
Hr. Pleven: To submit our plans.

Mr. Purvis: with the intention of discussing
it with the industry.
HM,Jr: I think, if you don't mind, you came

in to get acquainted.
Mr. Purvis: To introduce Self and that we are
going to inform you that we hope to have discussions
with the industry.

HM,Jr: You are going to meet with the industry.
Sir Henry Self: Could I make a small point there?
Would it be any difficulty if we had any preliminary
talks with Captain Collins before we went back, or
would that create any difficulty?

HM,Jr: No, that's all right. The only point
I made is I think your first meetings with the industry should be strictly with the industry at your
own offices and Captain Collins is available, but
rather than do it the way it was the last time, I
preferring the meeting with the engine people and
aircraft people - the preliminary meeting -- take
place on your ground.

Sir Henry Self: I understand that.
HM,Jr: I think you can appreciate that, but
if you want to meet with Captain Collins today or
tomorrow, he's available. Is that agreeable to you?
Sir Henry Self: Entirely.

(At this point the group left. Mr. Purvis

remained. )

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HM,Jr: Before you start in on me, I am going
to start on you.
There is a man by the name of Butler, who is
Counselor of the Embassy, and he calls up -- I take
it he calls up Jimmie Dunn -- and told him that
Mr. Ashton Gwatkin and Mr. Rist are doming down and
one thing they want to talk about in the State Department is molybdenum, because they can no longer
take it up in the Treasury, so I said to him, in
Treasury language, "Mr. Butler is crazy!".

Mr. Purvis: That's a strategic material.
HM,Jr: And that was Adolf Berle called me,
while you were sitting outside to see me. So Mr.
Berle said, "We don't know anything about strategic
materials or molybdenum. The Treasury has done

swell job and we don't want to get in on it."

a

Mr. Purvis: I tried to point out the differ-

ence between strategic materials and purchase thereof, which seemed to me to come completely under your

thing, and your desire not to get into the other situation such as copper, oil, things that had political
implications.

HM,Jr: Anyway, it is all straightened out.
And Berle said, "We don't want to get in on that."
I said, "I am doing this with Purvis. Purvis is
more or less accredited to me, not the State Department." Berle said, "I know it. We want to keep
it that way."
Mr. Purvis: And I have kept away entirely -was my definition correct? I told them and our

Ambassador -- Butler was there -- that where strategic
materials are concerned, where purchases thereof,
where anything to do with control of things that
might come into the war picture from the angle of

strategic materials, that that would be entirely

something I would expect to deal with you on.

HM,Jr: Things that are possible to do on strategic

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materials, you and I do. Things that are impossible, goto the State Department. They do 011 and
copper over there.

Mr. Purvis: I made the remark they would be
in continuous hot water with the State Department
for the duration of the war.
HM,Jr: And Mr. Berle does not want anything
to
do with
better
thanthe
that.thing and I can't define it any

Mr. Purvis: We still remain where we are in re-

gard to seeing Rist and Ashton-Gwatkin.

HM,Jr: I am waiting for their Ambassadors to

introduce them or make an appointment.

Mr. Purvis: And then they can discuss this
strategic material thing
HM,Jr: ... with you personally, but I have not
had any request to see them. That's how it came up
that
I told the press these gentlemen were coming in
this afternoon.
Mr. Purvis: Can they come in any time?

HM,Jr: Any time, but I would like the Ambassadors to formalize it.
Mr. Purvis: Having been legitimatized myself,
I appreciate the necessity of having them come in
formally. My understanding is rather definite.

So, nickel. In talking with Loring Christie --

have you heard that there has been a slight change?
HM,Jr: No.

Mr. Purvis: I thought I would simply tell you

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and I will have a paper to give you later, but the

Canadian Government, thinking over the nickel situation carefully since the memorandum I handed you,
has become definitely worried in the implications
in rationing Japan if it means rationing the United
States -- the theory they worked out -- 80 they immediately worked out a scheme of a five year average,
1934-1938, which would reduce Japan to 4200 tons and
would nevertheless leave the United States -- were

it natural to do it as a neutral country instead of
getting out in front and trying to hit Japan -- would
bring 5,200 tons here. But thinking your public
opinion moves in devious ways, 80 temporarily, as

I understand the situation, what they are presently
doing is (still they are trying to find some other
approach which will achieve the same general purpose)
they propose to dribble it out, if they have to dribble
it out, under pressure to the Japanese Minister, who
I understand now -- I saw the evidence -- is pushing
rather hard and who is asking for a perfectly amazing

quantity, out of all proportion of possibilities.
HM,Jr: Could I have this Monday forenoon?

Mr. Purvis: They are still trying to find out

what to do and they are worried. As a matter of
fact, all we can do is give you a note.
HM,Jr: This sort of thing is much better to

handle with me.

Mr. Purvis: And Christie feels that.
HM,Jr: Because when you are talking with me,

we don't really get on a trading basis.
Mr. Purvis: No. I agree. And we can keep

it completely off that. Well, that was -- I will

do that.

The only other thing I just wanted to report,
because I am going down to see Mr. Sullivan. After
all your help, we ran into a perfectly amazing thing
with Hercules. They sent up a contract to us, night

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before last, a very onerous one but frankly one that
we were willing to accept because of the anxiety of
the Government on having bridged, with your assistance,
the main difficulty, which was the tax thing.
Yesterday, about 3 p. m., we got a telephone
message saying the Board of Hercules had met last
morning and had disagreed with the three men who had
been negotiating this and who had reached agreement

with us, and had decided they would not accept a clos-

ing agreement at all. Obviously I can't tell you

our feelings. They are a little lurid. But I pro-

pose now to play the last card I can and that is to
go and face out in Wilmington a sufficient number of
the Board, to put our case to them, and what we would
like to do -- first, I must say to them the excuse
which has been given, which sounds to me too fantastic,
is that obviously the feeling is that they should pay
the tax and that is merely a way out and two or three
years out public opinion may pillory them. It seems

so far fetched that I can hardly credit it. After
all, if the Treasury is willing to consider giving a
closing agreement and one they told us they would be
happy to accept a good long time ago in the negotia-

tion. I propose to bring that out in the open and,
in addition, if necessity arises in order to prevent
the creation of this precedent, to say to them, "If
you will do what we want and work this out the way in whatever way the Treasury is willing to have it
worked out, provided it is a fixed sum, which it would
be with a closing agreement, we would guarantee that

if by any chance you had to pay the tax later that we

will find the tax."

HM,Jr: "Find." You mean raise?
Mr. Purvis: We will pay the tax if the closing agreement did not work out in practice. It's the
last card we have to play.
HM,Jr: Quite frankly I was not very happy over
the position that the Bureau took and I now feel that
our position is a perfectly fair one and it now looks
Mr. Purvis: It's up to UB.

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HM,Jr: Yes.

Mr. Purvis: We can't complain. If it is

a
genuine difficulty, I am amazed. But there we
are!

HM,Jr: But that takes it out of our lap.
powder?

Let me ask you, what is the status of the
How far have you gotten?

Mr. Purvis: On that powder
HM,Jr: Yes, the 1200,000 pounds.

Mr. Purvis: Yes. The Army -- while I was

down here, day before yesterday, our people got in
touch and asked DuPont and Hercules to write appro-

priate letters. They asked for permission to get
in touch first by telephone with the appropriate

people here. They have been in touch with the Army
and arrangement has been made. Whether it's done
formally or whether it's being done informally, I
don't know. In the case of the Navy, the Navy had
not yet received information.

HM,Jr: It's ridiculous! Not only did

General Watson call up the Navy and tell it to them,
but Mr. Edison wasn't satisfied so he called me on

the phone and he said, "I am not satisfied. I want
to hear your own voice. will you tell me, Mr. Morgenthau, that this is agreeable and that you want it?"
and I said, "Yes." And that was last week.
Mr. Purvis: What I think is by today they
probably have got through to the proper person and

I may hear before I go this afternoon and I could
perhaps send word into your office on the last position.

Stupid! But I thought you would
tell me that the -- let me ask Admiral Spear while
HM,Jr:

you are here.

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Mr. Purvis: All right.
One other point I would like to mention.
Nitrocellulose powder, which is made for the Navy,
is air dried; takes four months to dry. The Army
powder is dried out more quickly. Therefore, they
said "Couldn't you have got it all from the Army?"
I said, "will you be good enough to leave me alone.'
I don't think we should go back on it in the slightest.
HM,Jr: You can't get another pound out of
the Army.

waiting.

Mr. Purvis: I sensed that while we were

( At this point, HM,Jr spoke to Admiral Spear. )
HM,Jr: Might as well be hung -- DuPont flatly
refuses to make the request.

Mr. Purvis: It is very difficult.
HM,Jr: My own neck is out so far, it's stretched

80 far it can fall all too easily.
ciate it.Mr. Purvis: It's too good a neck. I do appre000-000

After the meeting was over and Miss Chauncey
had been excused from taking notes, Mr. Purvis stayed
behind and told Mr. Morgenthau that the Hercules Powder
Company called him on the telephone in December and

said, "Don't go and see Sullivan. The thing to do
is to see Colonel Burns." (Colonel Burns is aide to

Louis Johnson.)

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SECRET

Hang

Sater revised
POINTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO MR. MORGENTHAU

In order to finalize the proposals which the two
Governments wish to negotiate with the American industry,

the following is essentials
Engines

1. In view of the importance of obtaining
for the release of certain types of superchargers

as powerful engines as possible, we would ask

(turbo and two stage) which we are under the
impression the engine companies have developed
but which have not yet been released.

2. We are anxious to obtain the release of

an improved type of Allison engine which we
understand has been developed for use on the
newest fighters.
Airplanes

In view of the fact that the bulk of the

additional engines which we shall obtain will
only be available for mounting on air frames
during the year 1941, we need to order the types
of airplanes which will meet the WAY conditions
prevailing in 1941, and for this reason access
to complete information on the following airplanes is desired:
A. Pursuit airplanes
Lockheed intercepter P.38
Bell P.39
Improved Curtiss

Generally any other type of fighter

which would be serviceable in 1941.

(Note. Present indications are tha
war conditions in 1941 will invo
a speed for fighters of not less
than 400 miles per hour.)

B. Bombers

We believe that new types of bombers
have been developed for the American
Army and Navy, and we also would

wish to have information on those,
including big four engined bombers
and dive bombers.

The information necessary for the taking of decisions
would dover, for example, the results of the engine menufacturers' tests on engines and also the results of Service
and manufacturers' trials of airplanes, with details of
performance and handling qualities.

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POINTS TO BE SUBMITTED TO MR. MORGENTHAU.

In order to finalize the proposals which the
two Governments wish to negotiate with the American

industry, the following is essential:
Engines.

1. In view of the importance of obtaining
as powerful engines as possible, we would ask
for the release of certain types of superchargers
(turbo and two-stage) which we are under the
impression the engine companies have developed

but which have notyet been released. That is to
say:-

(a) General Electric turbo compressors on
the Allison engine 1710 and on the Pratt & Whitney
engine 1830;

(b) Two-stage two-speed superchargers on the
Pratt & Whitney engine 1830 and on the Pratt &
Whitney engine 2800.

2. We are anxious to obtain the release of an
improved type of Allison engine which we understandnas

been developed for use on the newest fighters. That is
to say:

The Allison engine V1710-35, specification

130D dated December 18, 1939.

Airplanes.

In view of the fact/that the bulk of the
additional engines which we shall obtain will only be
available for mounting on airframes during theyear meet 1941,
we need to order the types of airplanes which will
the war conditions prevailing in 1941, and for this
reason access to complete information on the following
airplanes is desired:

A. Pursuit airplanes.
Lockheed intercepter P.38
Bell P.39
Improved Curtiss.

Generally any other type of fighter which
would be serviceable in 1941.

(Note. Present indications are that war
conditions in 1941 will involve a speed for
fighters of not less than 400 miles per hour.)

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B. Bombers.

We believe that new types of bombers have
been developed for the American Army and Navy,
and we also would wish to have information
on those, including big four engined bombers
and dive bombers.

The information necessary for the taking of decisions
would cover, for example, the results of the engine manufacturers'
tests on engines and also the results of Service and manufacturers

trials of airplanes, with details of performance and handling
qualities.

March 7, 1940.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

March 11, 1940
.

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

The use of the turbo compressor and the two-stage two-speed
supercharger permits of the development of more speed and

the maintenance of greater speeds, particularly at higher
altitudes.

The British interest lies in the turbo compressor. Apparently
the French have no interest in either the two-stage two-speed
supercharger or the turbo compressor.

reference

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LMS

GRAY

Paris

Dated March 7, 1940
REC'D 3 :18 p. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

301, March 7, 6 p. m.
FOR THE TREASURY FROM MATTHEWS.

Today's JOURNAL OFFICIAL published an instruction

of the Minister of Finance for the guidance of importErs and Exporters with respect to the currencies to be
used in Effecting settlement of imports and Exports.
Currencies are divided into four categories namely the
franc (the French franc and currencies of French
colonial possessions) the pound (the pound and the

currencies of the British Empire, the Dominions
Excluding Canada, the Egyptian pound and the Iraq

dinar) free foreign Exchange currencies (United States

dollar, belga, Dutch florin and Swiss franc) and
"controlled currencies" (all others' currencies).
(END SECTION ONE)
MURPHY
WWC

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JT

GRAY

PARIS

Dated March 7, 1940

Rec'd 5:30 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washing ton.

301, March 7, 6 p.m. (SECTION TWO)

Countries are divided into four groups namely: the sterling
area (the British Empire - with the EXCEPTION of Canada,
Hong Kong and Newfoundland - Egypt, the Sudan, and Irak);

the principal "free commercial settlement" countries (United
States, Belgium, Holland, Scandinavian countries, Portugal
and Switzerland); compensation agreement countries (Chile,
Turkey, Argentina, Yugoslavia, Spain, GREECE and Hungary)

and controlled Exchange countries with which France does not
have compensation agreements (all other controlled Exchange
countries).
MURPHY
NPL

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GRAY

LMS

Paris

Dated March 7, 1940

Rec'd 3:23 p. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

301, March 7, 6 p. m. (SECTION THREE)

The third section of the instruction groups countries
according to the Exchange to be used in settling
imports and Exports: One. Imports from and Exports
to countries in the sterling area must be invoiced
in francs or sterling. Two. Imports from countries
of free commercial settlement must by preference be

invoiced in the currency of the exporting country if
not in francs; they may only be invoiced in sterling
"within certain limits"; Exports to "free commercial
settlement" countries must by preference be invoiced

in the currency of the importing country, or in a
free foreign Exchange or in francs.
MURPHY

WWO

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GRAY

JT

PARIS

Dated March 7, 1940
REC'D 5:16 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

301, March 7, 6 p.m. (SECTION FOUR)

Three. Imports from compensation agreement countries

may be invoiced in any currency but must be paid for in francs
at the compensation office unless specifically EXCEPTED.
Exports to compensation agreement countries may be Expressed

in francs or a free foreign Exchange but are generally paid
for in francs by the compensation office. Four. Imports
from controlled Exchange countries with which France does
not possess compensation agreements must, EXCEPT under

special instructions be invoiced in francs or the currency
of the Exporting country; they may not be invoiced in sterling
EXCEPT "within certain limits"; Exports to non-compensation
agreement countries must be Expressed in free foreign EX-

changes or in francs. Exceptions to the foregoing rules may
be made if circumstances warrant.
MURPHY

NPL

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GRAY

JT

PARIS

Dated March 7) 1940

Rec'd 3:46 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

301, March 7, 6 p.m. (SECTION FIVE)

You will recall that there has recently been SOME agi-

tation for Efforts to being about an increase of bank deposits through greater USE of the check as means of payment
in France (for Example my telegrams No. 104, January 22, 6 p.m.

and 144, January 29, 7 p.m.) An assembly of the Presidents
Chambers of Commerce of France yesterday passed a resolution
also urging more widespread payments by check. Reynaud

accordingly announced to the Finance Commissioner of the

Chamber yesterday that two decrees are in course of preparation which are designed to "generalize the USE of the check
especially as concerns payments by the Government".
MURPHY
WWC

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JT

GRAY

PARIS

Dated March 7, 1940

Ree'd 4:23 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

301, March 7, 6 p.m. (SECTION SIX)

It is reported that the Franco-Italian commercial agreement negotiations which have been proceeding in Paris (my

telegram No. 262, February 27, 6 p.m.) resulted in the initialing of an agreement yesterday.
The Minister of Labor yesterday informed the Chamber

that current unemployment figures are 200,000 as against

330,000 at the beginning of the war, of the present 200,000
approximately one third are over 60 years of age. HE also
announced that additional 200,000 workmen from the colonies

are EXPECTED in France this year. HE added that there are
450,000 mobilized men Especially assigned to national defense

work: requisitioned civilians Employed in national defense
work total bEtwEEn 750,000 and 800,000.
MURPHY
NPL

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GRAY

JT

PARIS

Dated March 7, 1940

Rec'd 5:21 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington,

301, March 7, 6 p.m. (SECTION SEVEN)

The Bank of France statement published today for the
WEEK ending February 29 does not of course contain the reCENT gold changes dated March 1. The statement reveals,
however, that the government drew another 1,350,000,000 on

its authorized advance bringing the total since the war to
20,050,000,000. Note circulation reached a new high of
156,150,000,000 an increase of 2,790,000,000 over the previous
WEEK occasioned largely by monthend requirements and the

aforesaid additional drawing by the government on its advance.
Gold coverage dropped from 56.54 to 55.75%

The securities market the past few days has in general
been calm and listless. The undertone was firmer today for
French industrial shares though rentes continue their redent
small fractional declines.
(END OF MESSAGE)
MURPHY
NPL

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

March 7, 1940
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

The production of powder at the Indian Head Powder Factory is now at
the rate of 15,000 pounds per day or 3,500,000 pounds per year. By
increasing the personnel approximately 175 men this production could
be increased to 25,000 pounds per day or 6,000,000 pounds per year.
The Navy's remaining allocation with the DuPont Company for 1940 involves deliveries of approximately 1,500,000 pounds, of which amount
375,000
pounds
must be retained, being of a type of powder not produced
at Indian
Head.

The increase of facilities at Indian Head as indicated above would
permit, therefore, of the release of capacity at the DuPont plant of
1,125,000 pounds for the remainder of 1940. The Navy has agreed to
release 4 months' capacity, or 600,000 pounds, which is the quantity

they were asked to provide for the British.

If the facilities at Indian Head are increased as indicated above
and this release is approved there will still remain 525,000 pounds
of unallocated capacity with the DuPont Company.

In connection with the proposed expansion at Indian Head, it has been
pointed out by the Navy that they consider it essential to keep the
DuPont powder line in existence. Therefore, when the British contract
is completed the DuPont source of supply should be maintained through
the award of a Navy contract which, in turn, will undoubtedly reduce
the production at Indian Head and necessitate a curtailment of acti-

vities at that plant.

the
H. Collins

Chairman, Liaison Committee

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March 7. 19th
Dr. Febe
Mr. Gestreen

will you kindly send the following
*AMERICAN IMPASST -

Free the Secretary of the Treasury to - forman

ing by will to Parts and Borita.

the Secretary of the Treamly - - I the offer as your of
3/4 percent Serios 4-19 treasury Notes dated March 15 2040 and mouting
March 15 19th is for 1-1/2 persons notes of Sortee 31.

naturing June 15 1940 of which the extending - to - 0738 has boo.

AMP.

// 3/7/20

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COPY OF TELEGRAM SENT

Washington, March 7, 1940.
The Honorable

Francis White, President,
Foreign Bondholders Protective Council, Inc.,
90 Broad Street,

New York, New York.

I wish to acknowledge the reply telegraphed to the

Department last night transmitting the results of the
Council's consideration of a possible debt offer that
may be made by the Brazilian Government to the holders

of its external bonds.
The Department transmitted at once to its Embassy

in Brazil the text of the contemplated statement contained

in your telegram, and the further statements of the
Council as to its understanding that the offer will disclose to the bondholders the whole picture, including
repatriation of bonds, and that should there be modifications of the present offer the Council reserves the right
to review the situation anew with full liberty of action
with respect thereto.
The Ambassador was authorized to transmit this to

the Brazilian authorities.
The Department appreciates the serious and continued

consideration you have given this question.
A. A. BERLE JR.

Assistant Secretary of State

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
TO:

American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.:

57

DATE: March 7, 1940

Reference is made to your no. 71 of February 24

and to the Department's no. 44 of February 28, regarding the repurchase of bonds by the Government of Brazil.
In order that the bondholders may have full knowledge,

the Department believes it essential that any debt offer
of the Brazilian Government contain a full statement of
what the Brazilian Government proposes to do.

Reference is made to your telegram no. 90 of March

6, 3 p.m. If the Government of Brazil feels that it is
faced by serious exigencies in the matter, the Department
would not wish to make a particular issue of the prospective treatment to be offered to holders of Grade IV bonds.
It has been and continues to be the leading wish of the
Department to obtain for bonds in Grade III an improvement
in the comparative terms with reference to bonds in Grades

I and II. The Department therefore still hopes that in
working out the terms of the offer, the Brazilian Government will find it possible to do something in that connection. It is the sense of the Department, as has already
been expressed to you on several occasions, that such
action

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action would not only be equitable but would
beneficial cerned results as far as the Brazilians were have

the since it would greatly increase the chances conbondholders. offer's receiving a favorable reception from the of
HULL (AAB)

EA:EB

117
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro
NO.:

93

DATE:

March 7, 1940

Reference is made to the next-to-the-last paragraph

of the Department's telegram 56, March 6, 7 p.m. In
order to take care of the exigencies of the Foreign
Bondholders Protective Council in the premises, Aranha
18 considering attaching to the debt announcement the
following statement:
"The Brazilian Government has not worked out plans

for now or the near future for the repatriation of bonds
in the open market. The Brazilian Government hopes that
in due time improving trade and exchange conditions may

permit it to avail itself of the provisions of Article
No. 1 (6) of the Aranha plan decree which permits
repurchases in the open market. Under no conditions,
however, does the Brazilian Government intend to make

more than moderate purchases of this character; and
will make no such purchases without consulting the
interested government."
CAFFERY

EA:EB

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT

TO:

American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.:

58

DATE:

March 7, 1940, 7 p.m.

Reference is made to your telegram no. 93 of
March 7.

The last clause 1s not liked in the Department.
This clause would imply that approval is to be given by
this Government before purchases in the open market are

made. The clause might be deleted or it might be

replaced by a statement to the effect that disclosure
will be made from time to time of the amounts of such
purchases.

It appears that the phrasing used would exclude
repurchases in the open market even for amortization

of bonds in Grades I and II. In order to clarify the
text the following changes might be made: for the last
four words of the first sentence substitute QUOTE in.

excess of the amortization indicated in this proposal
END QUOTE; in the second sentence before QUOTE

repurchases END QUOTE, insert QUOTE such additional
END QUOTE.

HULL (AAB)

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro
NO.:

94

DATE:

March 7, 1940

On March 5 the following telegram was received by

the National City Bank of Rio from its head office in
New York City:

"Has British exchange control established official

rate for purchases sterling bills for milreis covering
export from Brazil to British Empire. If so, what rate?s
This was passed on to the Brazilian authorities by
the Manager of the National City Bank. I was told by
Aranha this morning that although they have not received

any other information in this connection, the Brazilian
Government is very (I emphasize very) worried about the
matter.

CAFFERY

EA:EB

120
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.: 95
DATE: March 7, 1940, 12 midnight.

Following is the text of a decree-law providing
for resumption of services on the Brazilian foreign
debt on the plan specified in Department's no. 51 of
March 4 and 56 of March 6. The Minister of Finance
says that this decree-law will be signed by President

Vargas tonight and will be held confidential until it
is released for publication here, which will probably
be tomorrow.

"Article I. Decree No. 23,829 of February 5, 1934
is hereby reenacted for the period from April 1, 1940
to March 31, 1944 with the following amendments: Sole

paragraph. The provisions of this Article cover the
amendment contained in Decree 24,490 of June 28, 1934.

"Article II. The percentages fixed for exchange
remittances for service of the foreign debt of the
Union, States and Municipalities shall be the following
percentages of those of the last year of the Plan approved
by Decree 23,829 of February 5, 1934." (Here follows a
table containing the following percentages, for each
of Grades I, II and III interest at 50% throughout;
for each of Grades I and II amortization at 40% throughout

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-2out; for each of Grades IV, V, VI and VII interest at
40, 41, 43 and 50% in the first, second, third and
fourth years respectively.)

"Article III. For the purposes of the application
of the percentages provided for in the preceding Article
the first year to be considered shall be the period of
12 consecutive months counting from the date of the first
coupons matured but not paid after November 10, 1937.

"Article IV. While the present decree-law is in
force the general structure of the Plan cited in Article
I shall be maintained and no changes or modifications of
any kind shall be made that benefit in any way the bondholders of a given loan unless proportional benefits are
granted to the bondholders of all foreign loans.
"Sole paragraph. The provisions of this paragraph

do not apply to the object of No. 6 of Article No. I of
Decree 23,829 of February 5th, 1934.

"Article V. The sums required for the execution of
the present Decree shall be included in the respective
budgets of the Union, the States and the Municipalities.
"Article VI. The plan covered by this decree-law
shall be reviewed again by October 1943.

"Article VII. No. 5 of Article I and Articles II
and III of decree-law No. 23829 of February 5, 1934
and

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-3and other provisions to the contrary are hereby

revoked."

I had persuaded Aranha to drop the idea of raising
Grade IV above the figures mentioned in the foregoing
even before I had received telegram of March 7, 1 p.m.,
No. 57, from the Department.
CAFFERY.

EA:EB

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MORANTUM

March 7, 1940.
TO:

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM:

Mr. Sullivan
Conference with Messre. Halvering, Folay, Iray, Kedes,
and Leaing.

(Mr. Sulliven dictated the following in the presence
of these gentlemen at 11:30 a.M., March 7,1940.)

Questions Is there at the present time an adequate record
to justify our requesting the Department of
Justice to file petition against Bowman Kidert
Unanimously concluded that the record as transmitted

in letter of Special Agent Janua N. Sullivan, dated March 4,
does not constitute a sufficient record. Unanimously agreed
that Special Agent Sullivan be called to Washington to give
this same group any further information he may have in substantiation of any statements contained in his letter of
March 4 and that this same group review the situation in
the light of such additional information as may be obtained
from Special Agent Selliven.
We will not take any further steps with the Department

of Justice until after our meeting with Agent Sulliven.

Copy to:
Helvering
Foley

Iray
Kades

Lessing

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

March 8, 1940
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

M

A meeting was held in my office this afternoon at which were present
M. Plevan, Colonel Jacquin, Vice Air Marshall Cave-Brown-Cave, Colonel Cave,
Sir Henry Self, and the Director of Procurement.
It was indicated at the conference that a meeting will be held Monday
morning in New York with Mr. Evans of the Allison Motor Company; Monday
afternoon with Mr. Gordon of Wright Aeronautical; and Tuesday with Mr.
Wilson and Mr. Ward of Pratt & Whitney.
The purpose of these meetings will be to determine what motors can be supplied through October, 1941, and based on these determinations will depend
a decision as to the types and numbers of planes for which contracts will
be made.

Colonel Jaoquin indicated that they desired 3500 Allisons of the latest
type; 4400 Wright motors, types to be determined at their conference with
the Wright people; and 5790 Pratt & Whitney motors, types to be determined
at a conference with the Pratt & Whitney people. He further indicated,
however, that they desire to obtain as many of the larger horsepower motors
as possible.

It was indicated that as soon as the information is had from the engine
manufacturers discussions will then be undertaken individually with the
plane manufacturers in an effort to arrive at a program as to what planes
shall be acquired.
M. Plevan advised me that he would keep me informed as to developments

in their negotiations with the manufacturers.

H. E./Collins

Chairman Liaison Committee

John

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM:

American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.: 96
DATE:

March 8, 1940

With reference to my telegram 95, President
Vargas signed the Debt Service Decree this morning

at 12:30. It will be released tomorrow for publication here and abroad.
Aranha has changed his statement 80 as to conform

to the wishes of the Department expressed in its
telegram no. 58 of March 7.

EA:EB

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT

TO: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro
NO.: 60

DATE: March 8, 1940, noon.

It 18 noted by the Department that Article 3
of Decree Law No. 23829 of February 5, 1934 is revoked

by the new decree law. Would there not be more assur-

ance of the continued execution of the fulfillment of
the new plan if Article 3 were kept in effect but were
amended as necessary?
HULL (HF)

EA:EB

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT

TO:

American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.:

59

DATE: March 8, 1940, 11 a.m.

Reference is made to your telegram no. 95 of
March 7.

of course the Department will not take any action
with reference to the text of the decree law until word
of its release has been received from you. We are going

over it now article by article and will cable you later
in the day if we have any comment.

Is it Article I of the February 5, 1934 decree that
is reenacted or is it the whole decree? What is the form

of the table contained in Article II? Is a list of the
loans in the various grades included in this table? If
so, does it vary from the list published in the 1938
report of the Foreign Bondholders Council? What treatment is accorded to Grade VIII. In order to respond to
to
questions, we need full details.
In order to avoid the possibility of confusion, we

believe it highly desirable that you telegraph at once
the complete text of the proposed public announcement

to be made by the Government of Brazil. It is assumed
by the Department that the matter raised by the Department in its telegram no. 58 of March 7 has been dealt
with in a satisfactory manner.
EA:EB

HULL (AAB)

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro
NO.:

97

DATE: March 8, 1940

Reference is made to the Department's telegram
no. 60 of March 8.

The reason for revoking Article III was that its
original purpose had been solely to implement Article
II of the old decree law. The amounts provided for
under the new law will be deposited in the Bank of
Brazil in exactly the same manner as before.
With reference to the Department's no. 59 of

March 8, publication of the decree abroad at any time
on March 9 has been authorized by the Minister of
Finance.

As stated in the new decree, the old decree is

reenacted in its entirety with the exception of the
revocation which is explicitly specified in the new
law.

Only the words and figures paraphrased in my

telegram are contained in the table in the new decree.
The new decree does not repeat the lists of individual

loans; they continue to be exactly as in the several
grades of the old law. No change is made in Grade VIII...
it

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it is exactly as it was in the original Aranha plan.
If there is no objection, the Government of Brazil
may be willing to amortize it, as could have been done
under the old law.
CAFFERY

EA:EB

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Rio de Janeiro, March 8, 1940

No. 2678

SUBJECT: Brasilian Foreign Debt Situation.
ORIGINAL AND THREE COPIES BY AIR MAIL - CONFIRMATION COPY BY STEAMER.

The Honorable

The Secretary of State,
Washington, D. C.
Sir :

Referring to recent correspondence regarding the Brazilian foreign

debt situation. I have the honor to report that the Brazilian Minister
for Foreign Affairs told me this morning that one of the principal reasons
that the Brasilian Government had for desiring to maintain the principle

of the Aranha Plan derives from the French gold franc situation. As the
Department is aware, the French have in their favor a 1928 decision of

the Hague Court which backs their claim for a 1 to 13.8 ratio instead

of a 1 to 5 ratio which the Brazilians desire to maintain. The Brazilian
Government has been afraid that 1fthe principle of the Aranha Plan were

destroyed the French would hold themselves entirely free to press their

claim for the 1 to 13.8 ratio.
Respectfully yours,
Jefferson Caffery.

JO:ale

File No. 851

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.: 98
DATE: March 8, 1940

Reference 18 made to the last paragraph of the
Department's telegram no. 59 of March 8.

There is not to be any public statement except
publication of the decree and an interview which the

Minister of Finance is to have with the press late

this afternoon. In that interview a justification will
be offered, for domestic consumption, of foreign debt
payments.

The statement which I mentioned in the last paragraph of my telegram no. 96 of March 8, Aranha will

make in a letter to me. When the decree is published,
I may make any use desired of the letter.
CAFFERY

EA:EB

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

133

INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 8, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthan

FROM Mr. Cochran

At 12:05 today Mr. Dunn of the State Department telephoned me. He said
it was his understanding that Secretary Morgentham was agreeable to the idea
of the British and French Ambassadors presenting at the Treasury Messrs. Rist
and Ashton-Gratkin to discuss the subject of alley metals, such as molybdemum,

nickel, etc. Mr. Dunn stated that Mr. Butler of the British Embassy was in

his office at the moment, accompanied by Mr. Ashton-Gwatkin. The two ambas-

sadors would like to have the opportunity of making this call at the Secretary's
convenience. Since Mr. Dunn is acting as liaison officer in making arrangements for the two visitors from Europe, he asked that we let him know when it

would be convenient for Secretary Morgenthan to receive the two ambassadors
and their advisors.

MMR.
I called Mr. Dunn back at 12:30 noon and told him that the Secretary of

the Treasury would be pleased to receive the above mentioned gentlemen at
11 o'clock on Monday morning. Mr. Dunn was quite sure this could be arranged,

since that hour had already been reserved for a conversation at the State
Department in which these officials would participate. Dunn said his Department would be happy to yield the hour to the Secretary of the Treasury. Dunn
will call me back to confirm the appointment. He asked that I let him know
the subjects which are discussed by the visitors with the Treasury. He did not
ask for details, but simply wanted to know what problems they would be discussing here, so that there would not be any overlapping or confusion. I told him
that Mr. Butler of the British Embassy had misunderstood the Treasury attitude,
but that Secretary Morgenthan had explained his views to Assistant Secretary
Berle. Mr. Dunn was familiar with the situation and seemed anxious to cooperate

with us in our relations with the visitors.

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CONFERENCE IN UNDERSECRETARY'S OFFICE

March 8, 1940 - 2,45 P.M.
PRESENT: D. W. Bell, 0. K. Cushing and

E. H. Tolay, Jr.

MR. BELL: Mr. Cushing, we asked you to come down so we could all
understand what we had worked out on the case.

MR. FOLEY: We went over and saw Mr. Frank last night, Mr. Bell and I,
and gave him the program which had been worked out by the three

agencies. We told him the progrem was satisfactory to the three
agencies. We told him also that we understood no action had been
taken by the bank insofar as the agreement was concerned. We

understood that so far as the people representing the bank were
concerned, they had no further questions or suggestions in

respect of it, but it had not been approved by the bank. We told
Mr. Frank that insofar as we were concerned we were not in any way

suggesting to his that a settlement of the difficulties between
Transamerica and S. E. C. be influenced by this program. Insofer
as werwere concerned this progress is what the bank had to do in

order to adjust its difficulties with the Comptroller and the
Treasury Department. The approval of the bank to the program,

insofer as the Treasury is concerned, would have to be en

unqualified approval. It could not be conditioned upon the
outcome of the differences with S. E. C. The thing we went you

to understand is this - there is no connection between the two
agencies, that at the present time we are doing nothings we will

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give the bank a reasonable time to decide what it wants to do in
respect of that program. However, 1f at the meeting of the Board
of Directors next Wednesday, I believe the 12th - Tuesday or
Wednesday - this program is approved subject to a satisfactory

adjustment of the differences with the S. E. C. insofar as we

are concerned that will not be satisfactory. Before the meeting
when this is submitted to the Board we want to be absolutely sure

that you understand our position and that our position is presented
to your Board of Directors. The program should not be put up to
your Board so that the Board would get some idea that the program
might be satisfactory to us provided arrangements could be made

satisfactory to Transameries with S. E. C.
MR. CUSHING: I think you referred in the early part of your statement to an agreement with reference MR. FOLEY: Program

MR. CUSHING. I will transmit this statement to the bank immediately

so that they will know what you have said. I would like to ask
this, Assuming that the Board of Directors did adjourn to a date
later is the month further to consider the matter, would there be
any objection to that?
MR. FOLEY: We are willing, as I said, to allow the bank a reasonable

opportunity to sale up its mind. The bank must realise that time

is running against it, that there is a report in process of
preparation by Examiner Bates that will require the attention of

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the Comptroller when it has been submitted to the Comptroller.

If at that time there isn't something from the bank in the way
of an unqualified approval of this program, the Comptroller will
be free to take such action as the law permits,
MR. CUSHING, And what that action will be, do you care to indicate
to me new?

MR. FOLEY: no, we are not in position to indicate that to you now.
MR. CUSHING, It is understood in our discussion here - we took the

position from the first that adjustments were involved. So for
as we were concerned any proposition or settlement which we

arrived at would involve S. E. C. In other words we made no
commitment to accept the program without

MR. BELL, I think we made our position clear that we could not

be a party to the condition you attached.
MR. CUSHING, I think we presented that clearly on both sides.
MR. FOLEX: I think when you approve this program you should do so

with the understanding that the program is on the four corners
of that sheet of paper and there were no other conditions that
were incorporated in the program.
MR. CUSRING: Encept it was know by everybody here that it was the

bank's position that settlement with S. E. C. would be necessary

in connection with settlement with the Comptroller.

MR. POLEY, We look - the as being the bank's affair. I want our
position to be made perfectly clear, that so far as the Comptroller

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.4and the Treasury are concerned this is . program that must be
approved by the Bank W. thout reservation and it cannot be made

conditioned upon settlement of matters with other agencies.

MR. CUSHING, I will transmit that statement to the bank.
MR. BELL, We don't have such control over the S. B. C.

MR. FOLEY It isn't a question of control, I think it is a question
of proper relationship between departments and agencies of the
Government. That is an S. E. C. matter and not a Treasury matter
and your relationship with S. E. C. must be independent of your
relationship with the Treasury.
MR. CUSHING, That is the Comptroller's and the Treasury's position.

If you will give - a copy of this statement - it is only fair
that I should trensmit to the Bank exectly what occurred here.

I think you will agree with me that is fair. DO you want to
take that under consideration?
MR. FOLEY: Yes,

MR. CUSHING: I wouldn't want to take a chance on carrying it in wy
menory.

MR. POLET: It is a simple statement.
MR. CUSTING, What reason is there that I shouldn't have a copy?

MR. FOLEY, I should like to talk that over with Mr. Bell.
WR. CUSHING, We have discussed this and made . record of what your

position is and to keep it is your records without giving me a

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copy doesn't seem to be proceeding along the lines we have

been proceeding along up to this time.

MR. BELL: It would have to be written up. I could give you a

ring at your hotel.
MR. CUSHING A23 right, I will wait to hear from you before I
talk to wy people.

...

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 8, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthan

FROM

Mr. Cochran

CONFIDENTIAL

The reported turnover in sterling transactions was greatly increased today

with sales approximately double the amount of the purchases. The pronounced expansion of sales evidently resulted from the fear that the new exchange regula-

tions of the British Control, which are rumored to go into effect over the weekend,
may, in some manner, result in the owner's inability to dispose of his sterling
balances. The commercial demand for sterling, which was largely responsible for
the recovery in the rate during the past two days, experienced a slight contraction
today. These developments led to a sharp decline in the sterling rate.
In Amsterdam, sterling receded from 3.93-9/16 to 3.92-3/4 just before our
opening. The initial quotation in New York was also 3.92-3/4 and shortly there-

after sterling reached a high of 3.93. An erratic decline then took place and
by early afternoon, sterling was quoted at 3.91. After returning to 3.91-1/2,
the rate again fell to a low of 3.89-5/8 at the close.

Sales of spot sterling by the six reporting banks totaled L1,241,000, from

the following sources:

By commercial concerns

L 522,000

By foreign banks (Europe and South America)

Total

719,000

L1,241,000

Purchases of spot sterling amounted to 670,000. as indicated below:
By commercial concerns

By foreign banks (Far East)

L 620,000
Total

L 50,000

L 670,000

Contraction of commercial demand accounted for the widening of the forward

quotations for sterling. At the close, the discount for one-month delivery was
7/8$ per pound and the three-months discount was 3-3/8 per pound.

The following reporting banks sold cotton bills totaling 129,000 to the
British Control on the basis of the official rate of 4.02-1/2:
L 17,000 by the Irving Trust Company

5,000 by the Guaranty Trust Company
5,000 by the Bankers Trust Company
2,000 by the Chase National Bank
L 29,000 Total

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The discount for the Canadian dollar widened to a new low of 15% The belga
showedasa follows:
firm tendency all day and closed at .1696. The other important currencies
closed
French francs
Guilders
Swiss francs

.0220-7/8
.5314

.2242-1/2

For the past few days, the Cuban peso has had a weak undertone, and today it
was quoted at 8-13/16% discount. The Mexican peso remains unchanged at .1672.
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York purchased 200,000 French france and

50,000 belgas for the Bank of Latvia.

There were no gold transactions consummated by us today.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported that the following shipments of
gold were being made to it by the banks indicated below:
$4,499,000 from England, representing two shipments by the Bank of England for account of the Swiss National Bank.
590,000 from Mexico, shipped by the Bank of Mexico for its own account.
$5,089,000 Total

The disposition of these shipments is unknown at the present time.

The State Department forwarded to us cables stating that the following gold

shipments would be made:

From Bombay, India:

$1,063,000 representing two shipments by the Netherlands Trading Society and one
by the National Bank of India, consigned to the Chase National Bank,
San Francisco.

399,000 shipped by the National Bank of India to the Canadian Bank of Commerce,
San Francisco.

315,000 New
shipped
by a French bank to the French American Banking Corporation,
York,

243,000New
shipped
by the National Bank of India to the Guaranty Trust Company,
York.
200,000San
shipped
by the Netherlands Trading Society to the Wells Fargo Bank,
Francisco.
140,000 shipped by a French bank to the American Trust Company, San Francisco.
From London, England:

285,000 shipped by Pixley and Abell to the Chase National Bank, New York.
112,000 York.
shipped by the Swiss Bank Corporation to the Bank of Manhattan, New
$2,757,000 Total

The shipments being sent to San Francisco will be sold to the U. S. Mint there,
while those consigned to New York will be sold to the U. S. Assay Office.

CONFIDENTIAL

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1/4 The Bombay silver quotation worked out to the equivalent of 41.86 up
The fixing price for spot silver in London rose 3/16d to 21-5/16d. The

forward quotation advanced 1/4d to 21-1/4d. The U. S. equivalents were 37.63$
and 37.35$ respectively. Small Indian buying was reported.
Handy and Harman's and the Treasury's prices for foreign silver were unchanged at 34-3/4 and 35$ respectively.
We made five purchases of silver totaling 500,000 ounces under the Silver
Purchase Act. Of this amount 150,000 ounces represented a sale from inventory
and the remaining 350,000 ounces consisted of new production from foreign

countries, for forward delivery.

KMP.

FD:RH:amo:emk

CONFIDENTIAL

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Washington
FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS

Press Service
No. 20-40

Friday, March 8, 1940.

3/7/40

Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau announced last night that the

subscription books for the current offering of 3/4 percent Treasury Notes
of Series A-1945 will close at the close of business Saturday, March 9, 1940.
This offering is open only to the holders of Treasury Notes of Series B-1940,
maturing June 15, 1940.

Subscriptions addressed to a Federal Reserve bank or branch, or to
the Treasury Department, and placed in the mail before 12 o'clock midnight,
Saturday, March 9, will be considered as having been entered before the

close of the subscription books.
Announcement of the amount of subscriptions and their division among

the several Federal Reserve districts will be made later.
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DUPLICATE

CONFIDENTIAL

REQUIRED

TRANSPORT FACILITIES AVAILABLE IN MAKING
USE OF THE IRRAWADDY RIVER FOR SHIPMENTS
FROM RANGOON TO CHINA

From Vice Consul
Rangoon, Burma.

W. Leonard Parker
March 8, 1940.
Date of completion:

Date of Mailing:

March 9. 1940.

Approved:

Austin C. Brady

American Consul

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DUPLICATE

No. #

CONFIDENTIAL

Bangoon, Burma, March 8, 1940.
CONFIDENTIAL

SUBJECT: Transmission of Report Entitled "Transport

Facilities Available in Making Use of the

Irrawaddy River for Shipments from Rangoon
to China".
THE HONORABLE

THE SECRETARY OF STATE,

WASHINGTON, D. C.
SIR:

I have the honor to transmit herewith a report, entitled
"Transport Facilities Available in Making Use of the Irrawaddy
River for Shipments from Rangoon to China", which this Consulate

was instructed to submit for the information of the Treasury Department.

Respectfully yours,

Austin C. Brady
American Consul

Enclosure:
Report.

Distributions
In duplicate to Department.
881-800
WLP/cp

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The Existing River-Highray Route from Rangoon to China.

The only existing practicable route involving the use of the
Irrawaddy river for the transportation of goods from Rangoon to China
is by river-steamer from Rangoon to Bhamo, a distance of 874 miles, and
by motor truck from Bhamo to the Chinese border, a distance of 111 miles,
through mountainous terrain over lengthy sections of narrow and winding
unsurfaced roads which become impassable at times and may be traversed

only with great difficulty during the rainy season lasting from May until
October.

Transportation Facilities on the Irrawaddy River.
Except for cargo carried by a few independent operators in the lower

reaches of the river and by native sailing craft, freight and passenger
traffic on the Irrawaddy is handled by the Irrawaddy Flotilla Company,
Limited, which operates scheduled steamer services over the navigable

portion of the river and its tributaries. Freight from Rangoon destined
to Bhamo is carried by the company a distance of 597 miles to Mandalay in
seven days by express services operating twice a week and in nine days by a

cargo service which is run once a week. At Mandalay, cargo for Bhamo is

transshipped to steamers of lighter draft, which are run on a weekly express
schedule of two and a half days and on a fortnightly cargo-service
schedule of five and a half days. Two steamers of 437 gross tons
each are now employed in the Mandalay-Bhamo service. Each one is

capable of carrying an average cargo of 200 tons and of towing two

flatboats carrying 400 tons each, which is about half their capacity
but

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but the maximum average load which navigation in the shallow waters and

swift currents of the upper reaches of the river will permit. The
total amount of cargo transported during the calendar year 1939 by these
services from Rangoon to Bhamo consisted of 6,448 tons. It is understood
that the Mandalay-Bhamo steamers could transport 500 tons a week more than

they are actually carrying at present, but additional steamers would have

to be placed on the run to carry cargoes in excess of this quantity. An
official of the company has made the following statement regarding this
service: "We reckon that if we were carrying 2,500 tons of cargo per week
from Rangoon to Bhamo we would be busy. Between May and December when

river conditions are easier, we could handle more than this and I would

hesitate to put a figure on our 'full capacity"
The Irrawaddy Flotilla Company owns and operates a total number of

650 river craft. Of this number, 311 are self-propelled vessels of
various types and dimensions, ranging from small launches used for

ferry services to large, shallow-draft, side-wheel steamers 326 feet
in length; 134 are flatboats (including some used as floating docks),
which have an average cargo capacity of 750 tons each, but which
lack motive-power and must be towed; and 205 are "cargo boats" de-

signed for the rice trade in the delta area and which also must be

towed. In the course of the calendar year 1939 this fleet carried
1,322,058 tons of cargo and 5,699,817 passengers over the Irrawaddy waterway system. From May to December during the high-water period of the
rainy

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rainy season it would be physically possible to run all but 12 steamers
of the 650 vessels of the fleet the entire distance from Rangoon to Bhamo.

Although all of the flatboats and "cargo boats" are potentially capable
of being operated between the two points throughout the year, only 21
steamers to tow them are structurally capable of proceeding from Mandalay
to Bhamo during the low-water season, which lasts from December to May.

Of these 21 steamers, in the opinion of the company, only 3 (one more

than is now being used for the run) could be spared for operation between Mandalay and Bhamo under present conditions without disrupting

other services. However, it is possible, of course, that the company

might be willing to divert additional vessels to the service if future
conditions should indicate that it would be expedient and profitable to
do so. River steamers capable of navigating the river above Mandalay
and flatboats could be loaded alongside ocean-going steamers in Rangoon
harbor and could proceed to Bhamo without transshipment of cargo at

Mandalay if the volume of freight traffic should warrant such a direct
service.

Landing Facilities at Bhamo.

On account of periodic changes in the course of the river and be-

cause of variations in depth during periods of high and low water, it
has not been practicable to construct permanent docks at Bhamo. River
vessels moor alongside temporary ramps, which may be moved easily when

changes occur in the shoreline. Cargoes are unloaded onto the ramps by

native laborers, who load them on trucks, which may be driven over temporary
tracks

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tracks between the nearest road and the riverbank, a maximum distance

of two miles. It is understood that an ample number of laborers is
available and that no difficulty has been experienced in transferring
goods from steamers to trucks.
The Motor Road from Bhamo to the Chinese Border.

The motor road from Bhamo to the Chinese border runs first to
Manwing, a distance of approximately sixty-five miles from Bhamo. This
section of the highway is a dirt road on which some gravel has been laid

in places during the past year. From Bhamo to "Mile 20" .the road is

fairly straight, and there is two-day traffic at all times. At "Mile
20" there is a steep grade to "Mile 40", where the summit is reached.
From "Mile 40" to "Mile 63" the road descends sharply. Between "Mile

20" and "Mile 63", two miles from Manwing, there is one-way traffic
throughout the year during daylight hours. Vehicles may proceed from

"Mile 20" to "Mile 63" only from 8 a.m. until 2 p.m. and in the opposite

direction only from 2 p.m. until 8 p.m. From 8 p.m. until 8 a.m. traffic
may proceed in either direction at the driver's risk. In this section
there are numerous sharp turns, narrow bridges, and places where

vehicles can not pass. During the last rainy season the road became

impassable at times, and the average length of time required for a truck
to make the sixty-five-mile journey from Bhamo to Manwing during the

rains was four or five days.
From Manwing to Namkham, a distance of nine miles, there is a

winding dirt road, which is now being surfaced with gravel. This is
regarded

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-5- regarded as an all-weather road, with the possible exception of a two-

mile section in which there are twenty-one bridges and culverts. It
is understood, however, that this section could be kept open through-

out the rainy season if constantly repaired.
The road between Namkham and Muse, a distance of nineteen miles,

is fairly straight and is being surfaced with gravel. If properly
maintained, it may be kept open to traffic throughout the next rainy
season, which begins in May.

From Muse there is a two-lane, gravel-surfaced road eleven miles
in length which joins the Burma-Yunnan highway at a point 105 miles

beyond the rail-head at Lashio. From "Mile 105" on this highway it is
but eleven miles over a gravel-surfaced, all-weather road to Wanting
on the Chinese border, where the road extends on to Yunnanfu and Chungking.
Construction of New Road in China from Loiwing to Burma-Tunnan Highway.

At Manwing, which, as has been stated, is 65 miles from Bhamo,

there is a gravel-surfaced, all-weather road running a distance of
seven miles to Loiwing, China, just over the Burma border, where the

aircraft factory of the Central Aircraft Manufacturing Company, Federal,
Incorporated, is located. The Chinese authorities are now reported
to be engaged in the construction of a new road from Loiwing to Wanting,
which is where the Burma-Yunnan highway crosses the border. This road,

which will be approximately 55 miles in length, probably will be completed in about a year and may be used as an alternative route from
Manwing.

Comparison Between the Lashio and Bhamo Routes.

At the present time goods landed in Rangoon destined
for

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for the interior of China usually are transported by rail to Lashio,
a distance of 561 miles, where they are transshipped by truck into China.
The freight-carrying capacity of the Burma Railways between Rangoon and

Lashio is about 30,000 tons a month, which is considerably in excess of the
quantity of goods which can be transported by truck from Lashio to the

interior of China under present conditions. There is, in addition to the
railway line, a hard-surfaced, all-weather motor road running from
Rangoon to Lashio. The rail-highway route via Lashio involves transport

by truck a distance of 116 miles from Lashio to the border over an allweather road which is being constantly improved. The river-highway route
via Bhamo described herein entails haulage by truck a distance of 111

miles over lengthy sections of bad roads which present difficult
operating problems during the rainy season. It is extremely unlikely
that the quantity of goods which can be transported over the Burma-Yunnan

highway will exceed in the near future the quantity which can be carried
by rail to Lashio. Furthermore, it may be assumed that the Government
of Burma will be disinclined to improve the Bhame-"Mile 105" highway

sufficiently to encourage the use of this route for transport services
which would compete with the Government-owned Burma Railways, already

adversely affected by highway competition.

The principal advantage of the Bhamo route is that it is somewhat
cheaper than the Lashio route. The average freight rate charged by the

Irrawaddy Flotilla Company for the transportation of cargo by river from
Rangoon

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-7Rangoon to Bhamo is Rs. 31-14-0 (US$9.56) per ton, and the Burna Railways'

rate between Rangoon and Lashio is Rs. 40-0-0 (US$12.00) per ton, a dif-

ference of Rs. 8-2-0 (US$2.44) per ton. There would be a saving also in
port and handling charges in the case of goods loaded directly from

ocean-going vessels into river steamers. However, it is likely that truckhaulage charges from Bhamo to "Mile 105" would be greater than from Lashio.
At the present time the Bhamo route may be regarded only as an

auxiliary route which can be used during favorable weather for the shipment from Rangoon to China of goods which are not urgently needed and which
may be transported more economically in that manner.

Sources of Information:
The Irrawaddy Flotilla Company, Limited.

The Burma Railways.

Persons familiar with highway conditions in
northern Burna.

Distribution:
In quintuplicate to Department.
881-800
WLP/ep

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RE CLOSING AGREEMENTS

( Bank of America was also discussed during the course of
this meeting.) transcribed
Present:

March 8, 1940.
9:30 a.m.

Mr. Bell
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Foley
Mrs Klotz

H.M.Jr:

The other thing, we have you (Sullivan) here,
and these gentlemen, to listen. Something
happened yesterday and I haven't had a chance
to tell you about it and this is very, very
confidential, and let me tell you my story,
if you don't mind, without interruption and

then where there are gaps, you fill it in, if

you can.

I said to Purvis yesterday - I got him aside I said, "Purvis, what is the matter? Why
don't these fellows want to sign up?" And
he said, "Well, I didn't want to tell you
this, but," " he said, "let me tell you a
story." I can't get the exact date, but
this happened, I gather, several weeks ago.
He said, "When we were negotiating with

Hercules for a contract, I was over at my

hotel and __" I gather this isn't this week.
This must have been - did you hear what he
said?

Klotz:

No.

H.M.Jr:

Could it have been December? Was he negotiating in December?

Sullivan: He first met me the day after Christmas.
H.M.Jr:

Then it was December and he said, "I have got
a telephone call from Hercules and duPont and

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they said to me, 'You want a tip?"
He said, "Yes." They said, "Well, if you
are smart, before you see that man Sullivan
you will go over and see Burns at the Army
first." Now, I gathered he did. He said
he just made a sort of formal call. I was
upset and didn't get what Burns said to
him, but I am going to find out. I told
this all to the President last night and
he was very much upset and he examined me

as to why the Army would want to see Her-

cules before they saw you and I said to
him that the only reason I could think of
was that they wanted the kind of closing

agreement which would - Army would be able

Sullivan:

H.M.Jr:

to put pressure on you (Sullivan) in regard
to future closing agreements. I said that
was the only thing, because both the Army
and Navy didn't like the way you were
handling the Vinson-Trammell Act. He was
going to send for Burns alone and put the
heat on him and try to find out whether that
was really Johnson's stuff, that Burns is
really Johnson's Aide.
Well, the only thing I can piece into that
is what happened last Saturday when Ballantine came down and put up to Reiling a
closing agreement which had a provision put up this closing agreement and one of the
terms was that as soon as the British contract for powder ended, although the War
Department would be using Hercules' plant
at full capacity, we would agree to let them
immediately write off the plant as a total
loss, just as though they closed it up and
tore it down. Now, that is the only thing
that -But this is December. He said December. Why
should they be - the Hercules be tipping off
the English to go and see Colonel Burns before they saw you?

Sullivan:

I am sure I don't know. You will recall that

we discussed a publicity release in connection

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with the Colt closing agreement and I was
asked to see Louis Johnson, to clear it
with him, and I went over there and there
were two Army officers I talked with first
and then Louis came in and took all three

of us into his room. I gave you a report
on that conversation and I don't recall
the names of the two, but Burns may have

been one of them. That was the day that
Louis argued that Treasury was doing far
less with Colt than it had agreed to do.
H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Well, that is something. I think there is
something almost sinister in this thing.
I think so, very definitely. I am not as

disturbed as I should be, because if I had
ever seen Colonel Burns, it was that day.
In none of the negotiations has he ever
been over there.

H.M.Jr:

He
just a tool. He just does what they
tell is
him.

Sullivan:

I rather gathered that he was quite an able
fellow and doing a good job.
That is what Pa Watson says. That is neither
here nor there. There are so many things that
are going on which they are watching. Now,
I hate to claim to be a prophet, but only a
minor one, and yesterday afternoon I was
informed by Admiral Spear, of the Navy, that
duPont absolutely flatly refused to write
any letter asking the Army and Navy to
release the powder on manufacture, so having
only got the President's approval, I told
him to go ahead. The President didn't make
any conditions and I said, "My orders are to
see that the duPont release this powder to
the English at Hercules," so I told Spear
to go ahead. Now, the funny thing on that
was, on that deal, the Allies had no trouble
with the Army but their trouble was with the
Navy. I am telling you this because you I mean, the Army said, "Okay," but the Navy

H.M.Jr:

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-4was insisting on a letter but I took it seeing the President made no conditions,
I said, "All right, there are no conditions.
Go
ahead. We will try to get it anyway."
But there is

Sullivan:

Now, who asked duPont for that letter, the

H.M.Jr:

Navy or Purvis?
Purvis.

Sullivan:

And Purvis told you?

H.M.Jr:

No, Admiral Spear said that they got a "no" yesterday. Purvis made the request and the Navy
and Spear knew that the request was to come that
way,
do it. see, but duPont flatly yesterday refused to

Sullivan:

Can we go back to Burns a minute?

H.M.Jr:

Yes.

Sullivan:

You say this was December, before they started

H.M.Jr:

negotiating with us at all.

He said December. I heard him say December when

he first started. He got this phone call from

Hercules that they had better see Colonel Burns
before they saw you.

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

Well, the first day I saw them was the 26th of
December, the day after Christmas. You recall
you -I wouldn't recall anything.

Sullivan:

You called down from up home and Harry White

Foley:

You will be interested, Mr. Secretary, in reading the testimony before the Naval Affairs Committee in connection with that award to that
Electric Boat on this contract for those motor
boats. The Naval Affairs Committee just excoriated the Navy for that and if we had ever had
a closing agreement in there we would have been
in there, too. They couldn't understand why the
bid was let without public advertising. They

came over.

couldn't understand why the Electric Boat company
bought the models from Great Britain when the
Navy could have bought it direct.

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-5H.M.Jr:

They haven't met - what is the head of the
Electric Boat? Sutphin. They haven't met

Sutphin.

Sullivan:

Well, didn't somebody ask for a list of all the
people
who had in any way participated in that
contract?

Foley:

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:
H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Yes, and the Navy never mentioned the Treasury.

They didn't think we participated.
Well, just to show you, for instance how a person does something, yesterday when these people
came in to see me without my saying anything he never has sat in on these meetings before.
Merle Cochran walked in. Some of the other
people - I am not going to ask him to walk out,
but he has never been in on any of these meetings
before on the plane deal.
My wheels are going around on this Burns thing.
Purvis got this from duPont and Hercules, to

go see Burns.
From Hercules.

Well, is that the answer to Hercules' refusing
to enter into negotiations with the British,
that the Army wants to save the output of that
plant for themselves?

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Well, that is what I am getting at.
Well, that doesn't make sense, because this is

a new plant, in addition to their facilities.

You would think the Army would want - would
want the plant as largely expanded as possible.
H.M.Jr:

I tried to explain it last night and the Presi-

dent and I couldn't explain it. What would you
say if we had Purvis come over here and let's
talk this over with him?
Sullivan:

I am for it.

H.M.Jr:

Because what would Colonel Burns have to say to

Purvis that would be in his interest, in Hercules
interest, but not in the interest of the United

States Treasury? Warn them against you? What did
he have to warn them about against you, you being
in the Treasury? Why not let's ask him? Let's
ask Purvis.
Klotz:

Well, he is the sort of fellow you can certainly
ask and you will get an honest answer.

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Sullivan:

oh yes, Purvis - now, Purvis yesterday afternoon came in to see me and talked briefly
about Hercules and then he went into - curiously enough, he went into this - he had a fourpage letter from Elliott, the Internal Revenue
Commissioner of Canada, who saw me last week
on this crazy proposal to reduce an offer in
settlement to the Canadian Red Cross, so there
could be a contribution to the Canadian Red
Cross.

Before he got anywhere, the minute he mentioned

the name, I said, "Wait a minute. Let me tell
you what happened," and I gave him the whole
business. Then I said, "What is your interest
in this thing?" and he said, "Well, I thought
that Elliott was all right until about a year
ago. He came to me and he was very much interested in a hospital and he said, among other
things, 'Your company makes paint, and he
said, 'Purvis, this hospital has got to be
painted and it is going to take $900 worth of
paint and I am calling on you to produce the
paint, IN and Purvis said, "Well, I will let
you know about that," and he said, "We had a
very lengthy meeting of the Board and I was
very much opposed to it but we finally decided

H.M.Jr:

to give him the paint," and he said, "I was
very reluctant to mention this to you and
after all, there is no harm in asking." I
said, "Well, I have certainly told you," and
he said, "Yes, and the fellow he is anxious
to do this for - well, he is a successful
speculator but he isn't the type of fellow
I would want to go bail for."
Was this a public hospital or a private hospital?

Sullivan: I don't know. I didn't ask him.
H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

Because $900 is so little.
No, it was the idea of a Commissioner of
Internal Revenue going to a company that
has large tax problems, saying, "Give me
$900 worth of paint for that hospital."

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H.M.Jr:

Did he have his palm read? Well, I will
get hold of Purvis at 1:30.
The only reason I related that is that I
have been - always been very, very frank
with Purvis on everything.
I like Purvis.

Sullivan:

Very much.

Klotz:

I do, too.
All right, gentlemen.

H.M.Jr:

Sullivan:

H.M.Jr:

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GRAY

JR

Paris

Dated March 8, 1940

Rec'd 3 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

311, march 8, 6 p.m.
FOR THE TREASURY FROM M.TTHEWS.

In the face of growing anxiety at the failure of
French Exports to show the improvement so vitally

needed and of the criticism in Parliament of delay,
formalities, lack of imported raw materials, Et cetera,
facing French Export industries the Government has

introduced a bill setting up a "Superior Export Council".
It will function under the presidency of the Minister
of Commerce and be composed of the following additional
members: The Director of Foreign Commerce of the

Commerce Hinistry, the Director of the liouvenent General

des Fonds of the Finance Kinistry, the Director General

of Customs, the Director of Blookade of the Ministry of
Blockade, the Direator of Economic .ffairs of the Hinistry
of Colonies, the Director General of liaritine Transport
of the Cinistry Merchant Marine, C. representative of the
High Commissioner of National Economy and six representatives of French Industry and COMMERCE chosen from
active

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-2- 311, March 3, 6 p.m., from Paris.
active members of various trale andindustrial or anizations.
How Effective such a council will prove in any difficult
position remains to be SEEN.
In the course of a debate on the Government's

agricultural policy which resulted in a unanimous vote
of confidence in the Chamber yesterday the Minister of
Agriculture stated that the 1939 sugar beet crop totaled
1,050,000 tons of sugar as against consumption requirements
of 950,000 tons. With reference to wheat he stated that
France has available stocks totaling 18,000,000 quintals
of the 1939 harvest according to official figures and
that reliable private estimates would raise that figure
to twenty million. (END SECTION ONE)
MURPHY
CSB

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GR.Y

CK

Paris

Dated March 8, 1940

Rec'd 3:20 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

311, March 8, 6 p.m. (SECTION TWO)

In defending the recent measures restricting
consumption as a brake on rising prices he said that
the general agricultural price index covering French
products has risen but 12% claining that only the
increase in meat prices has been "Excessive" (owing to
heavy army requirements).

It is announced that in view of expiration of FrancoSoviet trade agreement all Russian imports into France
EXCEPT petroleum products will, beginning March 15th, be

subject to general (maximum) tariff rates.
The securities market was generally weaker today

partly on reports of Finnish Soviet peace negotiations.
Rentes WERE firm.
(END OF MESSAGE)
MURPHY
CSB

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE March 9k 1940.
TO

FROM

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. White

Mr. Purvis' appended comments seem to me to raise this question:
During January and February the British and French Empires

together have sold to us some $360 million worth of gold. If

Mr. Purvis' estimates of payments made with orders are anywhere
near correct much of this gold represents payment on their adverse
blance of payments with us.

During the same period (minus one week) the ritish have
sold only $22 million worth of American securities and the
French only $1 million. During the same period dollar balances
of British and French empires declined by about $90 million. If
the understanding with respect to the proportion of gold to total
payments was that they were going to meet half their adverse balance
with a liquidation of American securities and dollar balances they are

not fulfilling their part of the understanding.

I am wondering whether this question should not be re-canvassed

at this
time, and/or an attempt made to get more accurate figures
from
Purvis.

162

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Conference held in the office of Mr. Cochran, Treasury Department,
March 8, 1940, at 10:45 A.M.

Present: Mr. Purvis, Mr. Pinsent, Mr. Cochran, Mr. White.
The following significant points were made by Mr. Purvis in

response to Mr. White's questions:

1. That large sums, possibly in the order of $200 million, have been

paid by the French and British during January and February to American
manufacturers for the two following purposes:

(a) Less than $10 million by the British for capital expenditure - i.e., plant expansion, etc. Possibly two or three
times that much by the French for the same purpose.

(b) The remainder as payment in advance for goods to be
shipped later -- shipments to be spread over from one
month to more than six months, and down payments ranging
from 100 percent to 25 percent of the order.

The figures, according to Mr. Purvis, are very rough, and if we
want more accurate figures he thinks he can arrange to supply them.
(In response to the question as to how the French and the British
could have spent $200 million for down payments when apparently their
total expenditures in the Special Account was much less than that,
Mr. Purvis said that the reason was that all of the purchasing of war
equipment had not yet been concentrated in the hands of the British
Purchasing Committee and that therefore many of the purchases were
arranged by private British companies who were forced by the American
manufacturers to make some payment with the order.

If Mr. Purvis' estimates are anywhere near correct, it explains
most of the discrepancy that we find between our gold inflows and our
trade and service and capital balance for January and February.
2. The plane purchase program of both the British and French calls
for a probable expenditure of $700 to $800 million. This program is
in addition to the estimate of purchases already submitted to us of
some $150 million. (Included in the $700 to $800 million program may
be some payment for optional contracts already given so that there

may be some over-lapping with the amount included in the program

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2

earlier submitted.) The planes to be bought under that program will
not begin to be exported until 1941 but the orders and contracts
should be completed within the next four to six weeks. Mr. Purvis
explained that some portion of this expenditure will probably be

demanded by American manufacturers as a down payment some time before

the planes are shipped but he emphasized that the British Government
would attempt to keep that payment as small as possible and perhaps

be able to eliminate it. Mr. Purvis also stated that if the plane
manufacturers insist on too high a down payment, or on too high
special charges, that his government may decide not to place the

plane order.

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DUPLICATE

COPY

No. 286

Bangoon, Burma, March 9. 1940.

SUBJECT: Burma's transit trade with China in
January, in supplies other than war
materials.
THE HONORABLE

The Secretary of State,
Washington, D. C.
SIR:

I have the honor to report that Burma's transit trade
with China in the month of January 1940, in supplies other than

war materials, was principally in goods received at this port
from Hong Kong. The value of these goods was Rupees 1,573,599

($472,080), compared with a value of Rupees 345,660 ($103,698)

placed on direct imports from the United States, and a value
of Rupees 342,085 ($102,625) placed on importe from the United
Kingdom.

The total value of the transit trade in January was Rupees
2,264,124 ($679,237). Goods from countries other than those
named were valued at only Rupees 2,780 ($834). The re-exports

during January increased the total value of Burma's transit trade

with China incon-military supplies in the present fiscal year,
ending March 31, 1940, to Rupees 14,780,140 ($4,684,362).

Big Shipments of Blankets and Nitrate.
The principal items among the re-exports supplied from
Hong Kong were 689 tons of cotton blankets valued at Rupees

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-2855,131 ($256,539) and 3,007 tons of nitrate of soda value at
Rupees 279,825 ($83,947). Included among the many other
commodities shipped were drugs and medicines worth Rupees

118,001 ($35,400); instruments of various kinds valued at
Rupees 115,397 ($34,619): 44 tons of steel plates worth Rupees
79,598 ($23,879): and 50 tons of potassium compounds valued

at Rupees 22,020 ($6,606). Some of the goods from Hong Kong,

all of which were reshipped to Rangoon last year, were American

products, but the transit statistics do not show the original
sources of the supplies.
American Goods for Aircraft Factory.

More than 40 percent of the direct imports from the
United States re-exported to China in January consisted of
machinery, electrical goods, instruments and appliances, and
implements and tools, and many of the products were for the

factory of the Central Aircraft Manufacturing Company at
Loiwing. The total value was Rupees 142,645 ($42,793). In
addition shipments of hardware valued at Rupees 88,599
($26,579) were made, and some of these shipments also went to

Loiwing. Little American gasoline was sent into China in January,

but 70,249 gallons of American lubricating oils, valued at
Rupees 46,171 ($13,851). were included in the re-exports. The

total also included 53 tons of iron sheets worth Rupees
16,571 ($4,971). and rubber manufactures worth Rupees

9,431 ($2,829).

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-3Trucks. Tractors and Parts from Britain.
Eight Thornycroft trucks valued at Rupees 39.261($11.778)
were among the British products re-exported in the month under
review, which also included tractors worth Rupees 119,751
($35,925). and motor parts and accessories worth Rupees 134,403

($40,321). British hardware valued at Rupees 48,000 ($14,400)
was also shipped.

Practically all of the transit trade in January was with
departments of the Chinese Government, or with agencies and
concerns working with the Government.

Complete statistics of Burma's transit trade with China
in January are being transmitted to the Department by ordinary
mail.

Respectfully yours,
Austin C. Brady
American Consul

Distribution:
1. In quintuplicate to Department.
2. Copy for Embassy, London.
3. Copy for Embassy, Chungking.
4. Copy for Consulate, Yunnanfu.

800-600
ACB/ep

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE March 9, 1940
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. White

Subject: Estimated Impact of Foreign Transactions on Domestic
Business Activity During the Next Six Months

1. On the basis of confidential information submitted
to us by representatives of the Allied purchasing committee,
in addition to the usual data, we estimate that United States
exports for the calendar year 1940 will approximate $4.7
billion -- $1 billion more than last year, (assuming a
continuati on of the war in Europe.)
More significant for our purpose than the estimate
for the whole calendar year, however, is the course of exports
over the next six months in comparison with our exports for
the past two months.

Our recorded exports in February have been about the
same as in the previous two months, but if allowance were made

for piling up of goods waiting for ships, our January and
February exports would probably be 5 to 10 percent greater.
We anticipate that during the coming six months there will be
an average increase of between $35 to $40 million a month over
our February exports.

2. The increase in export, however, does not give the
whole picture. The Allied purchasing program will have an
additional stimulating effect because it is expected that during the next few months orders for large shipments (chiefly
of planes and equipment) will be made. These orders will be
accompanied by substantial down-payments on goods to be shipped
as well as payments for plant expansion. Though these orders
will not increase our exports until later in the Fall and next
year, they will have a stimulating effect on our domestic
activity this year especially during April, May, June and July.
3. To summarize, the additional business creating activity
resulting from exports and the Allied purchasing program may,
during the next six months, amount to as much as $100 million
a month more than current levels.

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Division of Monetary
Research

-2The behavior of the security markets in foreign
countries will not have significant repercussions on business
conditions here. Because of the extension to important
countries of exchange control, controlled prices and controlled trade, the movements in security prices on foreign
stock exchanges have far less influence on business activity
in the United States than they ever had.
Stock prices in all the leading markets for which
we have recent information, show a slightly rising tendency
during February but the increases are not sharp enough to be
significant. The surprising thing about the movements of
security prices in the belligerent countries is that they
have not risen more than they have since the war began. (It
is also curious that despite the enormous spending program
ahead of the British and the dangers inherent in a major war,
British Government bond prices should have risen 15 percent.
since the beginning of the war.)
Stock market prices in the European countries which
do not have exchange control have declined in the past few
months probably as a consequence of the outflow of capital
and political uncertainty. Switzerland, Norway, Sweden and
Belgium have sent $85 million in private funds to the United
States during the first seven weeks of 1940, a fourth of which
4.

was used to buy American securities.
5.

Another international factor that bears on the domes-

tic picture is the anticipated sale of American securities by
foreigners. During January and February the Allies sold about
$30 million worth of American securities, but the neutral countries purchased that amount, so that the net sales have been
zero. In view of the large program of purchases of American
goods by the Allies, and in view, further, of the presumed
continued intention to finance half their adverse balance by
the sale of securities, it is expected that during the coming
months the Allies will liquidate securities at a higher rate
than they have in the past two months. On the other hand, it
is quite uncertain whether the neutral countries will continue
to purchase enough to offset the Allied sales.
It would seem that the international transactions
on our security market will more likely therefore be a bearish
rather than a bullish factor during the next six months.

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Division of Monetary

-3-

Research

6. Wholesale prices in foreign countries since the
outbreak of war have risen sharply -- roughly about 25 percent in most countries. Depreciation of currencies, higher
shipping rates and the forced curtailment of imports are in
the main responsible.

The higher prices abroad may have a somewhat "bullish"

effect on domestic prices in that it will provide resistance
to a downturn in prices and may even initiate an upturn.
But the increased degree of government control over foreign
trade in the important trading countries of the world has
sharply reduced the influence of foreign price movements
upon price levels in the United States. Prices of individual
commodities will no doubt be directly affected by foreign
price movements.
Since the outbreak of war prices in the United States
have risen only 5 percent.

7. Normally our tourist expenditures in foreign
countries would become fairly heavy in June, July and August.
This year, however, substantial portion of those expenditures
will be made in the United States. We estimate that business
creating expenditures from this source should be higher by
possibly $100 to $200 million net during the summer months
compared with last year.

8. Shipping revenue will increase, but the amount

involved will be small compared with the magnitudes we are

considering.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

CONFIDENTIAL

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE

TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Haas

Subject:

March 9, 1940.

Business conditions and prospects, as reported to

Mr. Haas by:

Mr. T. J. Carney, President,
Sears, Roebuck & Co.,
Chicago, Illinois.
Mr. Charles R. Morrison, Vice President,
International Harvester Co.,
Chicago, Illinois.
Mr. C. C. Jarchow, Comptroller,
American Steel Foundries,

Chicago, Illinois.

Mr. F. Leslie Hayford, Economist,
General Motors Corporation,
New York, N. Y.

Sears, Roebuck & Co.

The monthly sales volume of Sears, Roebuck & Co. is shown in

the following table:

Seasonally

adjusted indexes

Dollar volume

(1925-27 = 100)

Month

1939

1938

1939

1938

March

$50,517,000
49,806,000
60,645,000
56,693,000
43,473,000
48,761,000
62,030,000
68,039,000
59,931,000
82,035,000

$41,583,000
44,182,000
43,670,000
44,214,000
35,714,000
40,614,000
49,507,000
52,613,000
51,997,000
67,550,000

245
222
239

252

202
197
172
182
179
204
200
188
205
208

April

May

June

July
August
September

October

November
December

January
February

234
218
245
251
244
236

1940

1939

1940

1939

40,548,000
40,836,000

33,551,000
35,582,000

253
262

209
229

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Secretary Morgenthau -2-

Mr. Carney estimated that Sears, Roebuck & Co.'s total
sales volume for the calendar year 1940 would show an increase
of 7 percent over 1939 up to the month of September, and the
balance of the year would show an increase of 3 percent. He
explained that last year the very sharp increase in their business was in some measure the result of a more liberalized

installment credit arrangement, and for that reason he anticipated more conservative increases in business this year. Last
week their store managers from various parts of the United States
came to Chicago for their annual meeting. They estimated that
business would increase in 1940, as compared with 1939, and
their estimates ranged from 5 to 15 percent.
Their inventories of finished goods were low, Mr. Carney said.
Expressed in terms of number of weeks' sales their inventories
were the same as a year ago, although the dollar value of inventories was somewhat higher. He pointed out that in general
retail inventories were not high, and that Sears, Roebuck & Co.
had obtained considerable business because goods were not available in other competing retail stores. He said that with their
national system of distribution they were able to maintain very
low inventories by shifting goods from one area to another, thus
meeting demands as they arose.

A new Sears, Roebuck & Co. mail order catalog has just been

issued. Mr. Carney pointed out that the pricing in this catalog
5 percent in prices had been decided upon. He said that if he
had the pricing decision to make today the increase would be only
about 3 percent. Because of the 5 percent increase he anticipated
that their mail order business might be at a slight competitive
disadvantage. Such a disadvantage would not apply to their
retail store business, however, as price adjustments could be
made quickly in the individual stores.
According to Mr. Carney, not only their "soft goods" sales
have been doing well, but their heavier line sales, such as
refrigerators, etc., have been exceptional. Business men in
general that he had come in contact with, he said, were optimistic.
He also stated that the buying public was optimistic, and
supported this statement by saying that in the industrial areas
had been determined last November when an average increase of

Sears, Roebuck and Co. had obtained greater than average increases
in sales.

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Secretary Morgenthau -3International Harvester Company

Farm in
implement
sales table:
of the International Harvester Company
are given
the following
Seasonally

Dollar volume

adjusted indexes
(1925-27 - 100)

Month

1939

1938

March

$12,383,000
13,000,000
9,797,000
9,283,000
7,977,000
7,058,000
9,239,000
8,663,000
7,651,000
9,329,000

$16,431,000
14,656,000
12,949,000
11,269,000
8,576,000
6,786,000
6,129,000
3,776,000
4,499,000
5,324,000

125
153
174
145

1940

1939

1940

1939

145

106
111

April
May

June

July
August
September

October

November
December

January
February

10,222,000
11,960,000**

7,472,000
10,111,000

1939

1938

108
110

143
124
126
104

96
86
88
88

131**

95

84
83
67

102
83

Preliminary.

Mr. Morrison said that preliminary figures indicated that
their February implement sales would be up 17 percent as compared
with their January sales. He estimated that the 1940 sales of
the company would show an increase of about 30 percent over the
1939 sales. (The fiscal year of International Harvester Company

begins on November 1.)

International Harvester Company's inventories were not
excessive, Mr. Morrison said, and went on to explain that this
was not just a mere guess, but that he has detailed periodic
reports from all the company's wholesale and retail outlets.
He said that their branch managers! reports on the general

business situation, which he received periodically, were all
favorable with the exception of those coming from the drought belt.

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Secretary Morgenthau -4American Steel Foundries

The American Steel Foundries' monthly dollar volume of

new orders is given in the following table:
Month

1939

March

685,000
730,000

April

May

June

July

August
September
October
November
December

1,122,000

783,000
902,000
699,000
608,000

3,564,000
3,442,000
2,811,000
1940

January
February

1,957,000

1938

$ 487,000
602,000
309,000
263,000
356,000
357,000
337,000
391,000
546,000
704,000
1939

657,000
992,000

The new orders figure for February was not available,
but Mr. Jarchow said it would be somewhat less than January,
although shipments in February would be about the same as
for January.
Mr. Jarchow would not venture an estimate of what the
American Steel Foundries' business would average in 1940 as
compared with 1939. He said that they have had six months
of good business, but pointed out that the railroad equipment
business has always been very sporadic. He said he was
not pessimistic, but on the contrary was very hopeful as he
expected new business to come in although he did not know exactly
where the business was coming from.

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Secretary Morgenthau -5General Motors Corporation

Actual sales by months of General Motors Corporation are
shown in the following table:
Month

July

August
September

October

November
December

January
February

1939

1938

102,000
76,100
56,800
110,500
162,900
156,000

78,800
64,900
40,800
68,900
131,400
118,900

1940

1939

120,800
123,900

88,900
83,300

Mr. Hayford said that General Motors' retail sales during
January and February have held up much better than they had any
reason to expect, in view of weather conditions, etc. The January
sales are about a normal seasonal expectation as compared with
December and the February sales are about a normal expectation

as compared with January. He said that dealers stocks were satisfactory and that it would require a very unfavorable development
in retail sales to make them burdensome.
General Motors' tentative production schedule, as compared

with a year ago, is as follows:
Month

January
February

March

April
May

1940

1939

188,000
174,000
184,000
190,000
180,000

136,000
133,000
161,000
142,000
128,000

The March, April, and May production schedules shown above are
the schedules which were revised upward 7 or 8 percent about a
week ago. The upward revision was made because the retail sales

performance was better than was earlier anticipated. The earlier
schedules, he said, were made on the conservative side.
Mr. Hayford estimated that the total United States and Canada
production for the year 1940 would amount to 4,250,000 units as
compared with 3,732,000 units in 1939. He expects general business
to turn upward probably in late May or early June. Before that
time, however, he expects the present decline to flatten out.

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PLAIN

RFP

London

Dated March 9, 1940

Rec'd 7 a.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

594, March 9, noon.
FOR TREASURY FROM BUTTERWORTH.

The new British Exchange Control regulations
referred to in my 432, February 21 and 564, March 6

have been made public. An inspired Explanatory article
in the TIMES today Emphasizes that the British authorities must now feel that the sources of supply of

free sterling have been sufficiently closed to permit
a deliberate contraction in the demand for sterling
on the free market. It continues: "While the supply
of sterling reaching the free market was relatively
important, any attempt to contract the demand would

have Entailed a risk of provoking a serious depreciation

of the free sterling rate. Now that the greater part
of the foreign assets in London (the repatriation of
which was the principal source of supply of sterling
on the free market in the Early days of the war) have
been withdrawn that risk must have been considerably

reduced. In any case a depreciation of the free
sterling

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RFP -2- #594, March 9, noon from London

sterling rate can be faced with Equanimity with the
SCOPE of free market reduced, as it evidently now
will be, to a shadow of its former self". The pertinent
features of the order are given below. Arrangements
in the Colonies and Dominions along similar lines are
being made and are in SOME cases linked with the

local existing Export licencing systems. Exporters
will b E required after March 25 to file a new form
when exporting certain specified goods from specified
countries to specified destinations to Ensure that the
sale proceeds of these Exports will in future be
collected in specified foreign currencies. On this
form the Exporter must state one of three alternative
methods by which they may choose to be paid for the
goods.

(a) By a sterling bill drawn under a credit
opened by the purchaser of the goods with a bank in
the United Kingdom; the credit to carry an undertaking

by the purchaser to obtain the sterling required to
meet the bill by a sale to the bank concerned of
one of the currencies named below;

(b) In sterling paid in the United Kingdom and
obtained by the purchaser of the goods by a sale to
a bank in the United Kingdom after September 3, 1939,

of one of the named currencies;

(c) In

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(c) In one of the named foreign currencies paid
by draft, telegraphic transfer or otherwise to a bank
in the United Kingdom or to its agent abroad for the
account of such bank. The goods specified are: from
the United Kingdom, rubber, tin, jute and jute manufactures, whiskey and furs; from India, rubber jute
and jute manufactures; from theproducing Colonies,

rubber and tin. The order applies when these goods
are shipped to the following destinations:

(1) All the territories in or adjacent to the
continent of America (Excluding Canada, Newfoundland

and any of His Majesty's possessions, the Argentine
and any French dependencies);

(2) The Philippines and any territories under
the soversignty of the United States of America;
(3) Belgium, the Belgian Congo and Ruanda
Urundi;

(4) The Netherlands and the Netherlands East
Indies;
(5) Switzerland, 'The currencies in which payments

can be made forth goods under the order are belgas,
guilders, Netherlands East Indies guilders, Swiss

francs and United States dollars. It is noted that
provision is made for Exporters to continue to sell
at

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RFP -4- #594, March 9, noon from London

at a sterling price when desired provided they
arrange to be paid by method (a) or (b) and that
provision is made for Exports to be financed as before

by means of sterling bills. Authoritative press
statements say that special arrangements are being
made in consultation with the tin and rubber markets

in London to Enable Existing means of dealing to be

continued as far as possible without interruption.
The order COMES into force on March 25. Exports made

prior to that date will not be affected by the order
but

by shipments made after March 25 under contracts

made prior to March 9 will receive special consideration.
KENNEDY
RR

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rio de Janeiro

NO.: 101
DATE: March 9, 1940

Aranha continues to harp on what he alleges are

"inconsistencies" on the part of the Foreign Bondholders

Protective Council. He insists that up until now he
has always been given to understand that the relative
gradings of the Aranha plan were considered fair by
the Council. He says, for instance, that he cannot
understand why such great store is put upon better
treatment for Grade III bonds now when no great effort
was made at the opportune moment to secure better treat-

ment for that grade than that provided in the Aranha
plan.

My reason for reporting this is merely to give the
Department an idea of Aranha's state of mind at the
present time.
CAFFERY

EA:EB

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COPY OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

RIO DE JANEIRO

Dated March 9, 1940

Rec'd 3:54 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.
RUSH

102, March 9, 3 p.m.

Department's telegram No. 61, March 9, 10 a.m.,
last paragraph my 98, March 8, 7 p.m.

I have received the following letter from the
Brazilian Minister of Foreign Affairs.
(TRANSLATION) "Rio de Janeiro March 8th. Mr.

Ambassador, I have the honor to inform Your Excellency
that the Brazilian Government has no worked-out plans

for now or the near future for the repatriation of bonds
in excess of the amortization indicated in this proposal.
The Brazilian Government hopes that in due time improving

trade and exchange conditions may permit it to avail

itself of the provisions of Article (8) (VI) of the
Aranha plan decree which permits such additional

repurchases of this character. Please accept the
expressions of my highest consideration. Oswaldo Aranha."
CAFFERY

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

March 9, 1940

The new British Foreign Exchange Regulations, which were rumored to be impend-

ing, were published today. These regulations provide that specific exports from
Great Britain and British Empire countries to certain countries must be paid for
in belgas, guilders, Netherlands East Indies guilders, Swiss francs or U. S. dollars
or by official sterling. As mentioned in previous reports, these new regulations
should result in a lessened demand for open market sterling.
In Amsterdam, sterling declined from 3.90-3/8 to 3.89-3/4. In New York, it
opened at 3.89-1/2 and receded to a low of 3.86-1/2. The closing rate was 3.87.
Sales of spot sterling by the six reporting banks and the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York totaled 1283,000, from the following sources:
By commercial concerns

By foreign banks (Europe and Far East)
By Federal Reserve Bank of New York (for Yugoslavia)
Total

I 127,000
L 116,000

L 40,000
L 283,000

Purchases of spot sterling amounted to 1245,000, as indicated below:
By commercial concerns
By foreign banks (South America and Europe)

L 177,000

Total

L 68,000
L 245,000

The following reporting banks sold cotton bills totaling 111,000 to the
British Control on the basis of the official rate of 4.02-1/2:
L 5,000 by the Guaranty Trust Co.

3,000 by the Chase National Bank

3,000 by the Irving Trust Co.

L 11,000 Total

The other important currencies closed as follows:
French francs
Guilders
Swiss francs

.2242-1/2

Belgas

.1695-1/2

Canadian dollars

.0219-1/2
.5310

15-1/4% discount

WeBank.
purchased $10,000,000 in gold from the earmarked account of the Swiss
National

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183

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York reported the following shipments of
gold from Canada:

$50,000,000 shipped by the Bank of Canada to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

for account of the Bank of England. Of this amount, $25,000,000 will
be sold to the U. S. Assay Office and the balance will be earmarked

at the Federal Reserve Bank.
2,303,000 shipped by the Bank of Canada, Ottawa, to the Federal Reserve Bank of

New York for account of the Bank of Canada, for sale to the U. S.

Assay Office.
14,000 shipped by the Canadian Bank of Commerce, Toronto, to its New York

agency, for sale to the U. S. Assay Office.

$52,317,000 Total

In a report from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York showing deposits for
account of Asia as reported by the New York agencies of Japanese banks on March 6,
such deposits totaled $39,051,000, an increase of $307,000 since the last report
as of February 28. Of this amount, $26,937,000 represented deposits with the
Yokohama Specie Bank by its branches in China. The overdraft on the books of the
Yokohama Specie Bank in New York for account of its head office in Japan was
$85,051,000, a decrease of $1,674,000 since February 28.

The Bombay silver quotation declined the equivalent of about 3/16 to 41.66

CONFIDENTIAL

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

FOR THE

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

Yesterday

visers
Finland

March 9, 1940

French

the
of

150

Information received from the French Purchasing Commission

alamy

X

indicates that inquiries are being made for the purchase of
50 Chance-Vought bombers, 200 Pratt & Whitney single wasp

engines, and 30 training planes.

anglass
belong sugment for

well

10:23:0a

The foregoing is subsities Chairman Liaison Committee
discussion&

Were

bactor

been

the
belies
billion

California Committee

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

M

PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

WASHINGTON

March 9, 1940
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY

Yesterday afternoon Colonel Temple Joyce, one of the technical ad-

visers to the Finnish Minister, called upon me concerning the transfer
to Finland of 150 pursuits. He knew of the information that had been
conveyed to the Minister by Mr. Coohran.

He stated that it is legally possible to effect such a transfer, and

this morning he sent me a transcript from Army Regulations No. 5-100,
dated July 20, 1937, in which the following quotation appears:
"*

* Motor-propelled vehicles, aeroplanes, engines and
parts thereof may be exchanged in part payment for new
equipment of the same or similar character, to be used
*

for the same purpose as those proposed to be exchanged.

*. (Act May 12, 1917 40 Stat. 43; U.S.C. 10:1272;
secs. 2044, 2077, M.L., 1929)."

The foregoing is submitted for your information in connection with the
discussions that have been had about airplanes for Finland.

H. E, Collins
Chairman, Liaison Committee

185

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COPY:Co:EFJ

NO. 64

AMERICAN CONSULATE GENERAL

American Foreign Service, Hanoi, Indochina,
March 10, 1940.

SUBJECT: Cargo transported by the Yunnan Railway during February, 1940.
THE HONORABLE

THE SECRETARY OF STATE,
WASHINGTON.
SIR:

I have the honor to refer to my despatch No. 60 of March 4, 1940, reporting
preliminary estimates of the cargo transported to China via the Indochina-Yunnan
Railway during the month of February, 1940, and to submit the following additional
information,
of
the railway.obtained in the course of a recent conversation with the chief engineer

The total traffic in the railway during February amounted to 7,566 tons, allocated as follows: traffic Haiphong-Tunnan, 2,794 tons; traffic Tonkin-Tunnan (including Saigon and intermediate stations), 711 tons; and service traffic (ballast,
ties and rails, construction materials, and approximately 3,400 tons of coal),
4001 tons. The railway's figures for commercial cargo transported from Haiphong
to Yunnan, 2,794 tons, agree very closely with the preliminary estimates given by
the
Southwest Transportation Company, about 2,700 tons, as reported in despatch
No. 60.

It is of interest to note that the total traffic of the railway during the

first two months of this year, 1.e., since the Japanese bombings disrupted traffic,

has amounted to only 12,609 tons (of which 6,121 tons represent service needs) as
against almost 18,000 tons (of which only about 3,000 tons represent service needs)

during the month of December, 1939.

With reference to my despatch No. 25 of December 9, 1939. in regard to the

allocation of the freight capacity of the railway, I have to report that a new

allocation has been made and is in effect: Chinese government cargo, 4.5/10ths
(including 1/10th for the Szechwan Railway); 2.5/10ths for private business;

2/10ths for the oil companies (of which 1/3rd is for their own account): and
1/10th for cement. This new allocation would appear to indicate that the reported
request of the Chinese Government to be granted further preferential treatment in
the obtention of freight space has been ineffectual, as the new allocation differs
but slightly from the previous one.
Respectfully yours,
For the Consul at Saigon,
CHARLES S. REED II

In duplicate to the Dept. (Orig. by
air mail)

American Consul.

Copies to the Embassy, Chungking and Peiping
Copies to Consulates General, Hongkong and Shanghai
Copies to Consulates, Kunming and Saigon
815.4
CSR:car

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ANGLO-FRENCH PURCHASING BOARD
NEW YORK:

WASHINGTON:

15 BROAD STREET

725 15th ST., N. W.

This letter from

March 10, 140
SECRET

Dear Mr. Secretary,

As promised, I am sending along a
memorandum of my talk regarding nickel last

week with Mr. Christie.

see 3-7-40.

Yours sincerely,

Auther

Henry Morgenthau Jr., Esq.,
Secretary of The Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

188

SECRET

MEMORANDUM
Proposals for allocation of Nickel ex-

ports direct from Canada to other than

European destinations.

The memorandum dated February 20th gave

particulars of a quota proposal for nickel exports
from Canada then under consideration by the Canadian

authorities. This would have resulted in 1940
shipments to Japan of 4,797 tons (based on the 19341938 annual average) as compared with actual exports

in 1939 of 11,655 tons. This would have resulted in
exports to the United States of 53,680 tons as compared with a 1939 figure of 57,491 tons.

In conversation with Mr. Christie on
March 8th, I learned that the Canadian authorities
in further considering the matter see some disadvantages
in this rationing arrangement from the viewpoint of its

restrictions on exports to the United States. Mr.
Christie has therefore asked that the 20th February
memorandum (which had also been delivered by him to

the State Department) be ignored for the time being.
My understanding is that the Canadian

authorities are endeavouring to develop some other
formula which will achieve the object in mind without

restricting exports to the United States and will in the
meantime, until such a policy is developed, restrict
shipment to Japan to minor quantities. I also understand the Japanese Minister has recently been pressing
Canadian authorities rather strongly and that quantities
for which shipment has been asked in 1940 are very large.

10th March, 1940.

189
PARTIAL PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Paris, France
DATE:

March 10, 1940, noon

NO.:

320

FOR THE TREASURY FROM MATTHEWS.

In view of the possibility that it may have appeared
in somewhat garbled form in the press I am giving below the
exact text in translation of the communique issued by
Finance Minister Reynaud yesterday evening jointly with the
memorandum on the bases of our economic foreign policy given
him by Under Secretary Welles:

"After conferring with Monsieur Edouard Daladier,
Monsieur Paul Reynaud has assured Mr. Sumner Welles of the

full agreement of the French Government to the principles
set forth in this memorandum. He has recalled that these

principles of liberty form part of those for which the allies
are fighting and that they are the same principles which
inspired the financial and economic agreements between

France and England since the beginning of the war especially

that of December 4 last which consitutes the first step
taken in Europe towards an economic and monetary nature

founded on a system of liberty".
Last evening Couve de Murville asked me to come to
his office and he showed me the foregoing. He remarked

that he thought a good reception had been given the recent
measures of the Government. I commented on the foresight
of

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-2of the French Government in timing the replenishing of the

gold resources of the stabilization fund at the present
moment of calm and in conjunction with a number of other
important measures on its program. I wondered why they

had not arranged for a figure substantially in excess of
the amount ceded to the Treasury, say perhaps for 50 billion
francs. It seemed to me that at this time a figure somewhat
higher than they received would not have aroused much

anxiety, if any, whereas some time later when it becomes
necessary to have a further cession of gold from the Bank
of France, there may well be important repercussions, both
psychological and otherwise. Couve replied, with some

emphasis - just as I had expected -nthat he agreed entirely
with this view, that they had been most anxious to transfer
a larger amount but were met with a firm refusal by Governor
Fournier, The Governor was afraid of the reaction to a

larger cession of the gold of the Bank of France at this
time, but both Couve and the Minister were of the opinion
that he was quite wrong to take this stand.
MURPHY.

EA:LWW

a

TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Office of the Under Secretary

To. The Secretary

Reports from F.R.

banks indicate

we have received
$J1JM of the June
notrs. (97+%) Me may

get another million
or so on final refests

swag
3/11/40
Under Secretary.
, 193

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March 11, 1940.

pee Purins

memo of 1-11-00

MEMORANDUM

TO: Secretary Morgenthau

FROM: Mr. Gaston

wr

Leo I. Keyes, Special Agent in New York, who originally
(Saturday, February 3) made contact with W. C. Bauer of the
Vinco Tool Company, 50 Church Street, New York, after Bauer's
name had been furnished by P. W. Brown of the Wright Aeronautical
Company, Paterson, N.J., has received a letter from Bauer, who is

in Florida, stating that the contemplated deal with I. S. Stepanoy
of Amtorg for industrial diamonds is permanently off so far as he,
Bauer, is concerned. He was not able to reach an agreement with
Stepanoy over price and delivery.

Amtorg transactions for the week ending February 24, 1940,
however, reveal $20,000 paid to the New York Industrial Diamond
Company.

We expect to get through our contact with the committee of
diamond merchants set up by the British Consul General in New
York their returns on questionnaires sent to industrial diamond
dealers.

We dropped any thought for the present of attempting to
impose any direct moral embargo on industrial diamonds after we
learned about the letter and questionnaire sent out by Godfrey
Haggard, British Consul General in New York, about the end of
January. This questionnaire asked each diamond dealer whether
he was willing to sign a statement that he would use his best endeavors to insure that diamonds or diamond products usable for
industrial purposes would not reach any country at war with Great

Britain or her allies.

Bauer on February 3rd told Special Agent Keyes that an importer named F. W. Jaeger, 140 Liberty Street, New York, had
approached him on behalf of the German government seeking to buy

industrial diamonds. With the appearance of Stepanoy of Amtorg,
however, Jaeger appears to have dropped out of the picture. Investigations of the industrial diamond matter in New York have

been made by Special Agents Keyes and Murphy, by Commander Thompson

and by Mr. Eddy of Monetary Research.

193

-2Mr. Sydney H. Ball of the engineering firm of Rogers,

Mayer & Ball, 26 Beaver Street, New York, has been active as
one of three members of the committee set up by the British
Consulate to prevent shipments of industrial diamonds to
enemies of Great Britain. He was the leading member of the
committee which made a confidential report to the War Department, dated June 7, 1939. He publishes an annual review of
the diamond industry and his estimates on industrial diamond
matters are used by the Bureau of Mines. He attended the meeting on December 22, 1939, at which Consul General Haggard pre-

sided, at which the drafts of the letter and questionnaire to
the diamond trade were prepared. He is also the author of the
report on the dismond situation furnished to you by Purvis.

There appears to be a wholly adequate supply of industrial
diamonds in this country. Ball said a number of dealers had
moved from Amsterdam and Antwerp to New York bringing their stocks
with them.

I had a talk with Colonel Charles Hines, Secretary of the
Army and Navy Munitions Board, who said that industrial diamonds

were well down on the list of strategic materials (about tenth
or eleventh) and there would therefore be little justification
for purchasing any at this time.

It was Ball's opinion that the British organization of
which he is a part, although he didn't admit it, has the situation
pretty well in hand. It is to be noted, however, that the phrase
in their questionnaire is "any country at war with Great Britain
or her allies" and this would not seem to cover sales to Amtorg
unless it were reinforced by word on the side.

VM

194

March 11, 1940.
MEDICARD

TO: Secretary Morgenthau
FROM: Mr. Gaston

Leo I. Keyes, Special Agent in New York, who originally
(Saturday, February 3) made contact with W. C. Bauer of the
Vinco Tool Company, 50 Church Street, New York, after Bauer's
name had been furnished by P. W. Brown of the Wright Aeronautical
Company, Paterson, N.J., has received a letter from Bauer, who is

in Florida, stating that the contemplated deal with I. S. Stepanoy
of Amtorg for industrial diamonds is permanently off so far as he,
Bauer, is concerned. He was not able to reach an agreement with
Stepanoy over price and delivery.
Amtorg transactions for the week ending February 24, 1940,
however, reveal $20,000 paid to the New York Industrial Dismond
Company.

We expect to get through our contact with the committee of
diamond merchants set up by the British Consul General in New
York their returns on questionnaires sent to industrial dismond
dealers.

We dropped any thought for the present of attempting to
impose any direct moral embargo on industrial diamonds after we
learned about the letter and questionnaire sent cut by Godfrey
Haggard, British Consul General in New York, about the end of
January. This questionnaire asked each dismond dealer whether
he was willing to sign a statement that he would use his best ondeavers to insure that diamonds or diamond products usable for
industrial purposes would not reach any country at war with Great

Britain or her allies.

Bauer on February 3rd told Special Agent Keyes that an inporter named F. W. Jaeger, 140 Liberty Street, New York, had
approached him on behalf of the German government seeking to buy

industrial dismonds. with the appearance of Stepanoy of Amtorg,
however, Jaeger appears to have dropped out of the picture. Investigations of the industrial dismond matter in New York have

been made by Special Agents Keyes and Murphy, by Commander Thompson

and by Mr. Eddy of Monetary Research.

195

2Mr. Sydney H. Ball of the engineering firm of Rogers,

Mayer & Ball, 26 Beaver Street, New York, has been active as
one of three members of the committee set up by the British
Consulate to prevent shipments of industrial diamonds to
enemies of Great Britain. He was the leading member of the
committee which made a confidential report to the War Department, dated June 7, 1939. He publishes an annual review of
the diamond industry and his estimates on industrial diamond
matters are used by the Bureau of Mines. He attended the meeting on December 22, 1939, at which Consul General Haggard pre-

sided, at which the drafts of the letter and questionnaire to
the dismond trade were prepared. He is also the author of the
report on the dismond situation furnished to you by Purvis.

There appears to be a wholly adequate supply of industrial
diamonds in this country. Ball said a number of dealers had
moved from Ansterdan and Antwerp to New York bringing their stocks
with then.

I had a talk with Colonel Charles Hines, Secretary of the
Army and Navy Munitions Board, who said that industrial diamonds

were well down on the list of strategie materials (about tenth
or eleventh) and there would therefore be little justification
for purchasing any at this time.

It was Ball's opinion that the British organisation of
which he is a part, although he didn't admit it, has the situation
pretty well in hand. It is to be noted, however, that the phrase
in their questionnaire is "any country at war with Great Britain
or her allies" and this would not seem to cover sales to Amtorg
unless it were reinforced by word on the side.