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DIARY

Book 222

November 9 - November 16, 1939

-AAlsop-Kintner

Alsop's letter of apology - 11/9/39

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162

-cChina

See also War Conditions
Wood oil: Shipments through Rangoon discussed by

British Ambassador with Buck - 11/10/39

Litvinov's visit denied by Kung - 11/15/39

157
381

Colombia

See War Conditions: Latin America

- -EEccles, Marriner S.
Address at Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis on
25th anniversary - 11/9/39

99

a) Hanes asks HMJr if someone cannot be found

willing to tell Eccles to mind his own business -

11/10/39

b) Hanes' press conference - 11/16/39

158
371

-FFarm Credit Administration
Foley memorandum to HMJr concerning new plan for

reorganization - 11/9/39

a) HMJr's memorandum to FDR

135
120

France

See also War Conditions

Rist discusses with Bullitt satisfactory working of
Franco-British blockade - 11/13/39

184,190

-GGuatemala

See War Conditions: Latin America
-M-

Movie Cases

See Tax Evasion

-RRevenue Revision

Conference; present: FDR, HMJr, and Hanes - 11/9/39
Randolph Paul presents ideas on production of increased
revenue - 11/13/39

a) Copy transmitted to FDR
b) Excess profits tax memorandum transmitted by
Paul to FDR - 11/16/39
Departation
. obsolusion
of in
mand airplane
production
discussed
by tratures
FOR H
msn.
11/11/24

92

192

196,258
383

44,95

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Tax Evasion
Movie Cases:

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Foley memorandum giving summary of procedure
recommended based upon Greenbaum-Knollenberg

report - 11/9/39

222

54

a) Recommendations of Foley, Greenbaum, and
Knollenberg

57

Taxation
See Revenue Revision

-WWar Conditions

Airplanes and airplane motors: Disparity in production:
depreciation allowance by which abnormal investment

in plant expansion will be absorbed over life of

contracts to be worked out by HMJr at request

of FDR - 11/9/39

a) Discussed at conference in office of Assistant

Secretary of War Johnson - 11/9/39
Bank for International Settlements:

44,95
45

Future plans reported by Bullitt after talk with

Auboin (manager of Bank for International Settlement) -

11/10/39
Belgium:

148

Gold reserves transferred to Paris - Bullitt
reports - 11/16/39

Czechoslovakia:

345

Order to surrender gold to Germany rumored to have
been made under threat and so Bank for International
Settlementsrumored to be withholding £600,000 not yet

actually delivered - 11/16/39
Exchange market resune - 11/9/39, et cetera
France:

Reynaud's address before large audience - 11/9/39
Declarations of holdings abroad postponed because of

satisfactory repatriation of capital - 11/15/39

Great Britain:

348

20,174,176,
178,296,321,
325
29

328

War Finance: Keynes (John Maynard) offers scheme for
forced savings - 11/15/39

335

National City Bank concerned lest short-term banking
credits be lumped with long-term loans in any arrangements
made affecting Colombia, Peru, and Panama - 11/10/39

173

Latin America:

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War Conditions - (Continued)
Latin America:
Colombia:

Dr. Jaramillo designated as representative of
Colombian Government - 11/13/39

a) Jones' letter to HMJr after conference
with Jaramillo - 11/16/39
Guatemala conference: Gaston description of opening 11/16/39
Munitions Control Board:
Acting Secretary of Navy and Assistant Secretary of
War suggest representation from State, Treasury,
and Commerce be included - 11/9/39

Neutrality Act:
Commerce with states engaged in war: Analysis of
requirements of Section 2 by State Department 11/16/39

Purchasing Mission (British-French):

362

363

45

357

HMJr's memorandum to FDR: "Three categories of business

relations between United States and foreign countries"
11/9/39

117

France: Procedure for handling war purchases not yet

worked out -- Bullitt reports - 11/10/39

140

France and Great Britain should have separate purchasing
agencies which have continuing contact and coordination
with each other: FDR's wish as transmitted by Hull

to Bullitt - 11/10/39

Ship Movements:

144

SS IRIQUOIS: Performance of CAMPBELL complimented highly

by Navy representing Grand Banks Patrol - 11/9/39

300

Rooth (Governor, Sveriges Riksbank) gives Harrison
(Federal Reserve Bank of New York) resume of foreign
exchange policy - 11/14/39

301

Sweden:

Turkey:

Bank for International Settlements-Turkish arrangement
on gold discussed by Cochran in memorandum - 11/10/39.

a) Federal Reserve Bank of New York informed any

transfer of gold in this connection should not
be interpreted as general rule

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9:30 group meeting.
November 9, 1939
Present:
Mr. Hanes
Mr. Gaston

Mr. Foley
Dr. Haas

Dr. White

Mr. Harris
Dr. Viner

Mr. Stewart

Mr. Bell

Mr. Thompson
Mr. Graves

Mr. Cotton

Mr. Cochran

Mr. Duffield
Mrs. Klotz

HM,Jr: I have to do my homework here, if you
to HM,Jr, letter from HM,Jr to President and proposed
message to Congress separating FCA from Agriculture and
restoring it as an independent agency. )

don't mind. I'11 read this now. (Memo from Mr. Foley

Do I have to read your memorandum, Ed?

Mr. Foley: No, sir.
HM,Jr: What does your memo say?

Mr. Foley: It discusses the agencies involved.
HM,Jr: Should it go with this to the President?
Mr. Foley: No. The message that accompanies the
letter explains the plan of reorganization.

Mac has been over there. It's all right with Mac.
HM,Jr: Good!

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Mr. Foley: And it has been cleared with Peyton

Evans over at FCA.

HM,Jr: I am seeing you (Hanes) at eleven.
Mr. Hanes: Is the Chinese fellow coming in?
HM,Jr: Yes. He made his speech and got half
way through. Told him to talk to Cochran; that it
was in his backyard. Getting around to borrowing some
cash to help their exchange. Told him it was useless.
Would give them all we could from Export-Import, that's
all we could. Had a very satisfactory talk with White.
White had promised $100,000,000 to stabilize their ex-

change. I said it wasn't enough.
Herbert, all set?
Mr.

Gaston: Almost. Do my homework today.

HM,Jr: Alsop and Kintner coming at 2:15?

Mr. Duffield: Yes.
HM,Jr: You ( Gaston ) might be here at 2:15
too, because I don't want to tell them what you did on

the BREMEN; much rather have you tell them.

Mr. Gaston: I have forgotten; can't tell them

very accurately.

HM,Jr: Ed, did you come back to the office after

you left me?

Mr. Foley: Yes, sir.
HM,Jr: I was afraid you did that.
Mr. Cochran: Sterling went down to 3.91 in New

York yesterday. It's 3.87 in Amsterdam.
HM,Jr: I have left and that's Hanes' and White's
responsibility.
Dr. White: Got to have an understanding on that

matter before you go.

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HM,Jr:
time tables.
my turn.Dr.

Is that so! I am gone. I am full of

White: I will wait until it comes around to

Mr. Cochran: I won't start anything else!
HM,Jr: Cotton?

Mr. Cotton: Nothing.

Do you (Viner) want to bring up this matter of aHM,Jr:
hat pool?
Dr. Viner: I am not going to speculate any more.
Besides it sounds too risky.
HM.Jr: Viner said I would be on the phone twice

a day and I told him if he was a fair sport to take up a
hat pool and I bet I won't call up ten times.
side.

Dr. White: On the latter part I will take your

Sounds HM,Jr:
better.

All right. I think I will manage it.

HM,Jr: I know if McReynolds was here he would take
the whole thing.

Dr. Viner: In any case, if Harry insists on getting an understanding I will take it.
HM,Jr: You work it out on the pari-mutuel. It's
legal
in
New York. I am sure Mrs. Klotz will come in
with two chances.
Dr. Viner: She has to or we won't know whether

you phoned or not.

HM,Jr: She has to make up her mind which side
she is on.
George?

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Dr. Haas: Nothing.
HM,Jr: George, don't send me any more memoran-

dums for at least ten days on how the bond market is.

(To Mr. Harris) You might, I think it would be

nice inasmuch as I think you have the only Treasury
authority down there in Nogales who ranks -- does Customs
rank the Border Patrol or vice versa? -- there is a fellow,
they tell me, at Nogales by the name of Captain Edwards.

I don't know whether he's the top fellow. He might like

to know I get in at 6 something, 6:29, tomorrow morning
at Tucson. But you have the only fellow down there,
whether it's border patrol or customs or whoever it is.

God being willing!

Mr. Harris: O. K.
HM,Jr:
You all straightened out on your ships;
your twenty
ships?
Mr. Harris: (Laughs) Why that industry has been

kicked around so, they can stand a few more.

HM,Jr: I talked to Huntington Cairns last night

about ten and he said he and the Attorney General are
drawing up -- he and Judge Townsend are drawing up a
memorandum. Has that gone over to State?
yet.

Mr. Foley: Really, Mr. Secretary, it isn't ready
We are still working on it.

Mr. Gaston: I think the regulation has to come
out under the authority of the State Department.
Dr. White: That industry has more money per capita
than any industry in the United States.

Mr. Harris: I am on your (Hm,Jr) side. Let's

gang him.

a

Mr. Hanes: I have been in it/long time and never

saw anybody get anything out.

HM,Jr: All right, children. Now were we were?
Dr. White: We were 3.87, Sterling.

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HM,Jr: What do you want to know?

(To Harris) It's moving, isn't it?
Mr. Harris: Yes. We all agreed it's up to the

State Department. I think the Attorney General will
pass on it in the next five or six months.
HM,Jr: Which way is he going to pass?

Mr. Harris: Against it, undoubtedly.
Dr. White: Trouble about Sterling.
HM,Jr: You want to stand up?

Dr. White: I may have to. The amount of trans-

actions which are being conducted are far in excess of
what the commercial needs might be, so that it is possible

we don't know, without further information. It is possible that all commercial transactions are being conducted at
the unofficial rate which means -- in other words, so far

as we are concerned, the significant rate is dropping and
like to know ahead (a) how far we want to let it go without saying something; (b) I would like to suggest we ask
for information right away, to indicate our interest and also
to get some further information.

while you are away it may go -- don't know, and we would

HM,Jr: All right. Tell you what to do. You,

Viner, Stewart, get into a huddle and come back here at
three o'clock today and see Hanes and I will be here at
three o'clock. White (1), (2) Stewart, and (3) Cochran
and come back, I hope with a program, but if not, an alternate program and Hanes and I will see the four of you

and I think you might consider inviting Feis in, or at
least be here at 3 o'clock. Have him up to date and I
think
ture. it might be a good idea to bring him into the pic-

Dr. White: Also the Legal Division, did you say?
HM,Jr: Oh, absolutely! How can we live without
them!
If we need any publicity, Gene Duffield will
handle it. Butterworth may even be here by that.

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And you are going to talk with these two gentlewill call a meeting if and when you fellows need one or
he feels it is necessary.

men not only what we can do about Colombia and Mr. Hanes

Dr. White: There is a meeting at 11 o'clock.
HM,Jr: These two gentlemen are available for
consultation.
Harold?

Mr. Graves: Nothing to say except that I have not
been able to think of anyone better qualified than the
man you called me about last night.

HM,Jr: Kansas City, that is. You have not been
able to think of anyone better qualified than he?
Mr. Graves: No.

about it.HM,Jr: Well, you have ten days to still think

Mr. for
Graves:
I have a great deal of respect and
admiration
that man.
him?

HM,Jr: Who was our man who actually worked with
Who is the Treasury fellow?

Mr. Graves: Hartmann, special agent, St. Louis.

HM,Jr: I would bring him here. He worked with
them. I think it's a great advantage to have the fel-

low who worked with the Treasury people.

Mr. Graves: It occurred to me that this man's
availability might be affected by the venue of the case.
Mr. Foley: He would have to get out, and this is
big enough for him to resign.

HM,Jr: Is it?
Mr. Foley:

Sure! Or maybe a satisfactory leave

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of absence could be arranged whereby at the end of six

months or a year he would go back to that job, but if
that could not be arranged, if he's the right fellow,
it's big enough for him to want to resign and handle
this. Certainly can be paid more and make a bigger
reputation.
HM,Jr: But you are very much sold on him?
Mr. Graves: Yes, indeed!

HM,Jr: Did he build up a good staff around him?
know.

Mr. Graves: You mean in his own office? I don't

HM,Jr: He certainly was under terrific pressure
politically.
Mr. Graves: Yes, he was. And of course he had
done a good deal on election fraud cases in Kansas City,
apart from this case, that were very well done.

HM,Jr: Milliken is the man we are talking about.

He did narcotic cases subsequently.

Mr. Graves: I did not know about the narcotic
cases in Kansas, but if there were he did.
Gaston: Two or three newspaper men here know
MillikenMr.
very
well.
HM,Jr: Dan?

Mr. Bell: I have nothing.
HM,Jr: You ready to defend yourself against
the Comptroller General at ten o' clock?

Mr. Bell: Oh, I guess 80.
HM,Jr: What do you mean you guess so?

Mr. Bell: Ed and I have not been together.

HM,Jr: Well, for gosh sake! get together. You

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have ten minutes.

Mr. Bell: You knew the Federal sold about

seven or eight hundred thousand yesterday so the market

went up pretty fast and as soon as they sold a few blocks

stocks went off a little.
HM,Jr: Net sales?

Mr. Bell: Yes.

HM,Jr: Are they selling particular securities?

Any great demand or just sell ad lib?
Mr. Bell: The Federal Reserve Bank in New York

has a lot of flexibility in their operation and only sell
where there is great demand. I think they are operating
all right as long as theyleave it in their hands.
HM,Jr: Norman?

Mr. Thompson. I have nothing.

HM,Jr: For the benefit of the gold players, I

expect to be back a week from Monday morning.

Could that fellow that we had at the house from
Commerce -- after all this is business;we have never done

this before -- be helpful on the Sterling thing?

Dr. White: Domeratzky? Not he, but they have
a
man
who
could be. New man. Just took him from Harvey
Gilbert.
HM,Jr: For team play, if he's a good man and you

agree, why not bring Commerce in on this?

Dr. White: I think we will have to bring his

Chief, who is Thorpe.

HM,Jr: I am leaving it in your hands. I think

for team play it's a good move.

Dr. White: I think it is important and you ought

to act through the Acting Secretary.

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HM,Jr: Well, Hanes will take care of it, but

think here is Sterling and the question of commerce,
I mean I like my idea of bringing somebody in. If you
want somebody he will call up Noble and say we have this
I

idea -- it's new, my idea -- we want to work closely with
them and send somebody over.

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November 9, 1939
2:03 p.m.
HMJr:

Hello.

Operator:

Go ahead.

HMJr:

Hello.

Jesse
Jones:

How are you?

HMJr:

Jesse?

J:

Yeah.

HMJr:

I want to add a wing to my COW barn. Can I borrow
3 thousand dollars?

J:

You bet you can.

HMJr:

O. K.

J:

Where are you going? I understand you're going away.

HMJr:

Yeah.
I'm going out tonight to a place called
Tucson, Arizona.

J:

Good.

HMJr:

Where
theya tell
me it -- the mail is only delivered
three times
week.

J:

Yes, sir. Well, are you going to be gone some time?

HMJr:

Ten days.

J:

Well, you'll have a nice time.
I think so. Everybody says it's nice.

HMJr:
J:

HMJr:
J:

HMJr:
J:

Yeah.

The people are nice, good weather.

Are you going on a ranch or are you going to a hotel?
No, we're going to a ranch.
Going to a ranch.

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HMJr:

Yeah. Mrs. and I.

J:

Who's going with you?

HMJr:

My wife.

J:

I see. Where's your boy?

HMJr:

My boy?

J:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Henry?

J:

Yeah.

HMJr:

I've got one boy in Chicago with Louis Brownlow.

J:

I see.

HMJr:

And I've got one boy at Amherst.

J:

Iisn't
see.
Well the boy that I knew then is with Brownlow
he?

HMJr:

That's right.

J:

Yeah.

HMJr:

When are you going to go away?

J:

Well,
I'mfirst.
going along about the last of Thanksgiving,
not the

HMJr:

I see.

J:

I'm due in Texas for that

30th day of November.

football game on the

HMJr:

Uh-huh.

J:

And I want to go down there for about ten days then.

HMJr:

Right.

J:

I was in New York yesterday and

HMJr:

Oh, did you?

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J:

And tried to make a little New Deal medicine.

HMJr:

Uh-huh.

J:

Talked
the
good things that have happened, and
so forthabout
and so
on.

HMJr:

Good.

J:

And they are numerous.

HMJr:

Good.

J:

Well, I just heard you are going away and I wanted to
call you up and say

HMJr:

Well that's nice, Jesse. Everything -- I think things
will be quiet for a week or ten days.

J:

Oh, I'm sure they will, Henry.

HMJr:

And

J:

I don't think you could have picked a better time.

HMJr:

I -- I know I'm tired.

J:

Yeah.

HMJr:

Well, be good.

J:

All right, and have a nice time.

HMJr:

Thank you for calling.

J:

Goodbye.

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November 9, 1939

3:38 p.m.

Operator: Go ahead.
HMJr:

Hello.

James

Farley:
HMJr:

F:

Have
you got anything to report as to what happened
to Hitler?

(Laughs) Listen, can't you -- couldn't you fix the

time bomb so it went off right?
Well, they didn't tip me in advance.

HMJr:

I see.

F:

What are you vacationing for? I see in the papers
where you're going vacationing. You know, you're
not tired or anything like that are you, brother?
(Laughs) I'm -- I'm

HMJr:
F:

HMJr:

You're not celebrating the result of Duchess County,
are you? (Hearty laughter)

(Hearty laughter) You go to hell. I saw that the

President had a fireside parade.
F:

I called him up and I said, "Well now don't talk to
You were going to elect a Sheriff."

me about the Supervisor, what about the Sheriff?
HMJr:

Yeah.

F:

Well, he said he couldn't give me much of an explanation on that one, see? He was talking about the
Supervisor in the Highway Commission. I said, "The

hell with that; those are only cheap officers."
HMJr:

Yeah. How are you, Jim?

F:

Well,
I'm all right. When are -- when are you going
away, Henry?

HMJr:

Tonight.

F:

Well, how long are you going to be away?

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HMJr:

Just ten days - I'll be back a week from Sunday.
That don't sound long, does it?

F:

Well, I think that's all right. I think -- meanwhile I'll try to hold the lines for you.

HMJr:

Now Listen,
Wallace
on? what I want to know, which side is

F:

Well, he's coming in in the morning and I'm going

to try to find out.

HMJr:
F:

What?

(Laughs) In the morning I'm going to try to find

out. I'm -- I just picked up "News Week" coming
down
in the
train. According to Lindley I'm against
the third
term.
HMJr:

You're against it?

F:

According to the "News Week", yes. I'm turning
Well, find out where Wallace 18.

HMJr:
F:

I'm trying to get everybody to come out against it
according to Lindley.

HMJr:

I see.

F:

He -- he has a candidate, you know, in the person of
your friend,
know
that or Mr.
not. McNutt. I don't know whether you

HMJr:

No !

F:

Oh, yes, that's Lindley's.
Is that Lindley's?

HMJr:

Oh,
yes. for
of course,
that he's
McNutt. he's for the boss, but after
HMJr:

Your old pal McNutt.

F:

My old pal McNutt. The old captain man.

HMJr:

Right.

-3F:

What did you do with him? Did you give him the
foot?

HMJr:

(Laughs) I don't think the President could stand

a combination of McNutt and Carmody.

F:

Apparently not. Apparently not. Jesse -- Jesse had
to suffer because of that.

HMJr:

Right.

F:

O. K. Well, take -- take care of yourself.

HMJr:

Thank you, Jim.

HMJr:

Say by the way, you didn't just -- I'm not concerned
at the moment but just out of curosity now, I'm just
going to -- did you do anything on that other thing
I talked to you about about
The report on -- what's his name, Foley?
Flynn -- Flynn.
I left word that when it came to send it over to the

F:

Sure.

HMJr:

On Flynn.

F:

HMJr:
F:

F:

HMJr:
F:

President. It will be terrible.

Oh, it's bound to be.
And I'm just sending it over to the President.
Yeah, the thing to do is hold the whole thing until

the first of the year anyway, I think.

HMJr:

Well, I -- is -- that's what -- that's an appraiser,
is it?

F:

Yes.

HMJr:

Well

F:

If you made any move at all I think the thing to do

would be to move Foley up and then 1f you have to
move somebody in that

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-4HMJr:

I'll talk to Basil Harris about it.

F:

Beg pardon?

HMJr:

I'11 talk with Basil Harris.

F:

O. K.

HMJr:

And Gaston.

F:

O. K.

HMJr:

Righto?

F:

The smart -- the smart thing to do is to do nothing

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until the first of the year.

HMJr:

Well, if we put Foley in there could we abolish the
other position?

F:

HMJr:

As far as I'm concerned you could.
As far as you're concerned?

F:

Sure.
want to know anything about it but it's
all
rightI don't
with me.

HMJr:

Well,
if we
put Foley -- there's one position up
there too
much.

F:

If
you put Foley in, if you want to abolish, that's
your business.

HMJr:

And then abolish the position of whatever the
surveyor, I guess

F:

I don't give a damn.

HMJr:

What?

F:

I don't care. I wouldn't be concerned.

HMJr:

All right.

F:

O. K., Henry.

HMJr:

Thank you.

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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 9, 1939.
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM Mr. Cochran

Mr. Knoke telephoned me at 10:05 this morning und mentioned the sharp

drop which had taken place in sterling. At that hour he said the rate was
somewhere between 3.82 and 3.79, after closing last night at 3.91. He said
that of the order given him yesterday by the Bank of Rumania to sell

612,000, he had sold yesterday 1240,000, retaining the balance which he
will endeavor to dispose of today.

When I asked Knoke's opinion about this morning's market, he repeated
to me his personal opinion expressed some time ago that ultimately, after
the war, sterling will be much lower than it is now. Knoke believed, how
ever that after the present special selling is over the rate may swing back
toward or around 4.00. The special selling he referred to was that by

Japan and Rumania. He agreed with me that part of the weakness today was

psychologically resulting from: (1) the realisation that with the Neutrality

Act having been passed disbursements by the British Government on this market will increase and augment the strain on sterling and (2) the German
threat of early attack, possibly through Belgium and the Netherlands. Knoke
told me that he would be speaking with Bolton later in the morning.

At 10:15 I met with the economists and the question of sterling was
discussed. When I returned to my office at 10:45 I telephoned Knoke. He
said that he was to phone Bolton at 11:45. I told him that we were anxious
to know the results of his conversation, but offered no suggestions therefor. It was assumed that he would naturally get what information from
Bolton he could in regard to sterling's weakness and British policy in relation thereto. Knoke will call me back after the conversation.
Knoke let me know that the Chase Bank had received last night another
order to sell $500,000 for Rumania. The Chare Bank stated this morning that

its selling orders in sterling exceeded its buying order by 4400,000. In-

cidently the Chase mentioned that the Rumanian Minister had visited that
bank recently and intimated that his country would have to open large commercial credits in the United States. The belief was that since Rumania
had obtained 15,000,000 in credit from Great Britain to cover purchases on
the British market, the situation had so changed that much of these purchases
would have to be made on the American market, with a consequent requirement
for dollars. At the hour Knoke spoke with me, Japanese sales of sterling
were drying up.

It was Knoke's opinion that the greater part of British exports to the
United States was invoiced in dollars and most of British imports from the
United States invoiced in sterling. We know that grain and cotton bills are

in sterling. Of course, the British control gives dollars against sterling

on permitted exports.

K.M.P

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18

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE November 9. 1939.

TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Cochran
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

At 4:45 on November 7. the Secretary telephoned me from the farm that
he had discussed with the President at lunch the question of setting up a

committee with representatives from the Army, Navy and Treasury Departments

to report to the President, through Mr. McReynolds, in regard to the plans
of foreign governments for war materials purchases in the United States.
The Secretary told me that he would discuss this upon his return the following morning and that we would draw up a memorandum for transmission to the

President. In answer to my report that both Pinsent and Leroy-Beaulieu desired an appointment for November 8 to present Mr. Purvis and Mr. Bloch
Laine, respectively, the Secretary instructed me to tell them that he would
be glad to receive the two financial counselors at 3 o'clock on the 8th,
but that they should come unaccompanied. That is, he desired to see only
the usual representatives until this matter had been definitely straightened
out.

By telephone at 5 o'clock, I told Messrs. Pinsent and Beaulieu that the
Secretary
'clock. would receive the two of them the following afternoon at three
At the staff meeting on November 8, the Secretary instructed Mr. Graves
and myself to meet that afternoon with Captain Collins and Mr. McReynolds

in his office. At the afternoon meeting, the Secretary told us the plan

which he had discussed with the President in regard to a liaison committee.
He asked us to draw up a memorandum and submit it to him in finished form

this morning for delivery personally by him to the President at 11 o'clock.

After the meeting, the four of us reviewed our conversation with the
Secretary, and Mr. Graves drafted a paragraph thereon. I prepared two other

paragraphs and then worked over Mr. Graves' paragraph and consolidated them
into one memorandum which, after approval by Mr. Graves, was submitted by

me to the Secretary this morning and received his signature. The Secretary
delivered it to the President this forenoon.

HMR

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 9. 1939
TO

Secretary Morgenthau

FROM

Mr. Cochran

Mr. Irigoyen, formerly Financial Counselor of the Argentine Embassy
in this city, called me from Buenos Aires at 12:45 noon today. He had no
business to take up with us, but sought information with respect to the

decline in sterling, the outlook for that currency, and the general situation
in the United States, with particular reference to industrial activities,

commodity prices and United States security levels. I gave such information
as I had in what I thought an appropriately guarded manner.

KMR

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

20

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 9, 1939

TO

Secretary Morgenthan

FROM

Mr. Cochran

The sterling rate was again under pressure with the turnover in transactions exceeding the record established yesterday. In Amsterdam sterling was
quoted at 3.91-1/4. The opening quotation in New York was 3.86-3/4. Shortly
thereafter, it was reported that there was some small scattered selling. In
addition to the selling reported, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York had
1367,000 representing the unexecuted balance of the Rumanian order received on
November 8. The Chase Bank also reported that they received an order to sell
1500,000 at best from Rumania. The rate declined rapidly and about mid-morning

was quoted at 3.77. the low for the day. After that good commercial buying
came into the market and the rate steadily appreciated to 3.85 about mid-afternoon.
It closed at 3.84-1/2.
The discount on forward sterling widened and was quoted as follows:
1 month - 1-1/8 per pound, discount - 3-1/26 per annum.
3 months - 4-1/24 per pound, discount - 4-3/49 per annum.
Humania has sold in this market approximately 12,400,000 since November 3.

If their disposal of sterling should now be completed and no large selling orders

are received, sterling, in all probability, will regain some of the loss which it
sustained during this week.

Sales of sterling by the reporting banks in New York and the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York totaled 11,321,000 from the following sources:
L 142,000
L 812,000

Commercial concerns

Foreign banks (Europe, Far East and South America)
Fed.Res.Bk. of N.Y. (For Rumania)

367,000

Total 11,321,000

Purchases of sterling amounted to 11,264,000. as indicated below:
I 693,000

By commercial concerns

By foreign banks (Europe, Far East and South America)

L 571,000

Total 11,264,000

The banks also reported that the British Control purchased sterling amount-

ing to 66,000 at the official rate of 4.02. All of this sterling represented cotton
bills.

CONFIDENTIAL

-221

The French franc and the belga again declined. The guilder and Swiss
franc were fairly steady. For comparative purposes, the closing quotations of
the important currencies on November 2 and today are listed below:
NOVEMBER 2

Sterling

French francs
Guilders
Swiss france
Belgas
Canada

4.00
.0227
.5311
.2244
.1669

10% discount

NOVEMBER 9

3.84-1/2
.0218-1/4
.5308
.2242
.1643

11-1/26 discount

Acting on instructions received from the Netherlands Bank, the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York continued to purchase guilders for it at a certain rate.
The Chinese yuan, during the past few days, receded from its recent high
of .09-1/4 to 08-5/16 today.
We account.
purchased from the National Bank of Belgium $2,575,000 in gold from
its earmarked

The Netherlands Bank advised us that it wishes to sell gold valued at

$3,500,000 on November 10 and $11,600,000 on November 13, the gold to be released

from its earmarked account. These transactions will be reported on the dates they
are consummated. The Netherlands Bank has been a consistent seller of gold to us
and
operations are to provide dollars in connection with their stabilization
of thethese
guilder.
We received, through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, a request
from the Central Bank of Argentina to purchase $2,000,000 of gold to be added to
their earmarked account, which request was approved.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York informed us of the following gold

shipments:

$5,000,000 from Japan, consigned to the Yokohama Specie Bank, San Francisco,

for sale to the U. S. Mint at San Francisco.

2,087,000 from South Africa, consigned to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
to be earmarked for account of the Netherlands Bank.
2,060,000 from the Netherlands, consigned to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
to be earmarked for account of the Netherlands Bank.
564,000 from Canada, consigned to the Royal Bank of Canada, New York, for sale
to the U. S. Assay Office at New York.
195,000 from Canada, consigned to Goldman Sachs & Co., New York, for sale to the
U. S. Assay Office at New York.
63,000 from England, consigned to the Chase National Bank of New York, for sale
to the U. S. Assay Office at New York.

$9,969,000 Total

In New York we made five purchases of silver totaling 300,000 ounces under
the Silver Purchase Act.

H.M.S CONFIDENTIAL

5.39

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

FICE

78(e)
22

OF NEW YORK

OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE
CONFIDENTIAL FILES
FROM

L. W. Knoke

DATE November 9, 1939.
SUBJECT TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH
BANK OF ENGLAND.

11

I called Mr. Bolton at 12:40 today. We had had a very

hectic market, I told him, with sterling opening at 3.86, dropping
to 3.77 and then recovering to the present rate of 3.82. Selling
for Rumanian account had continued with about £700,000 in the

market this morning, which were left over from yesterday's orders.
In addition, selling orders seemed to have been received from
South America and from the Far East; Japanese selling seemed to

be drying up. Buying had almost been absent for awhile. Bolton

inquired whether there had been any selling from Brazil. I replied
"Not to my knowledge," but why did he ask. He replied that they
understood that the Brazilians had come into possession of sterling
recently. "I don't know whether we can do anything much about the
market," Bolton continued. As regards the Rumanian selling, they
were going to take the matter up with Rumania. I suggested that

this selling might have to do with the British credit of May of
this year but Bolton refused to think so. I stated that the market
here certainly was disturbed and completely upset; that in a normal
market today's selling would have been absorbed but in prevailing
circumstances the result had been a break in the rate. This seemed

to me unfortunate because I still believed that the selling was
of a temporary character and that with a little buying the situation
could have been corrected in a hurry. Bolton asked how much sterling
in my opinion, was still hanging over the market and I suggested that
might be in the neighborhood of 400,000. Bolton simply thanked me

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FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
OF NEW YORK

DATE November 9, 1939.

OFFICE CORRESPONDENCE
CONFIDENTIAL FILES
FROM

SUBJECT

TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH
BANK OF ENGLAND.

L. W. Knoke
2

for the information. He could tell me nothing new at all as to
conditions in Europe; Holland seemed to be getting worse. Regarding Belgium, they had no information today, not having been able
to reach Brussels on the telephone.

I referred to Bank of England's cable No. 1074 of
November 8 which, as received by us, made no sense. We assumed,

I said, that it contained advice to the effect that our account No. 2
with the Bank of England had been credited £612,500 by order of

the Banque Nationale de Roumanie in Bucarest. Bolton, after looking
into the matter, confirmed that our assumption was correct and I
requested that they send us a new cable correcting their No. 1074.
This he promised to do.

LWK:KW

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PLAIN

HSM

London

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 1 D. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2318, November 9.
FOR TREASURY.

One. . Another small increase in the note circulation
by 6406,000 is shown in today's Bank of England return
which also reveals a heavy switch from bankers' deposits

which declined from 612.9 million into public deposits
which increased by 610.7 million while other accounts
declined by 61.5 million. Government securities in the
banking Department decreased by L3.1 million and other

securities including discounts and advances by 6292,000.

Two. The dullness of the gilt-edged and other stock
markets yesterday and today is attributed to the implications of the Belgium-Dutch peace plea rather than to
any Effects of the national loans bill announcement
reported in my No. 2305, November 8. War loan closed
ppor

today at 91-3/4 having been over 92 two days ago.
KENNEDY
DDM

25
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rome, Italy

DATE: November 9, 1939, 7 p.m.

NO.: 500
Reference is made to telegram of June 30, No. 243,
from the Embassy.

Today announcement was made that the exchange guarantee

of the Italian Government covering trade between Germany and

Italy will again be available to exporters after the twelfth
of November; this guarantee had been suspended the first of
July.

The following is confidential: This action means that
the debit merchandise balance has been reduced, and that

the clearing between Germany and Italy will function as it

did before. On the first of September, Italy reportedly
had an active balance of as much as two billion lire. The
clearing balance made up about five hundred million of this
total. Evidently Italy thought, when Germany went to war,

that it would be wise to restrict exports to Germany until
there had been a reduction in the payment balance by Germany;

they had been demanding cash for their exports since that
time.

In view of the above-mentioned announcement, it would
seem that Germany has found a way of reducing its adverse
balance. That Germany has been exporting considerable quan-

tities of coal to Italy is known; 300,000 tons, calculated
at

26

-2at a value of about 40,000,000 lire, has been exported to
Italy in the last two months. The transfer of the German
population out of the Upper Adige has probably brought about

a substantial reduction in their debit balance; Italian authorities take over the property and goods of these Germans when

they leave the region, and the value of such property and

goods is applied to the credit of Germany. It is estimated
by a reliable informant that to date about 300,000,000 lire
have already accrued to Germany from this source.

The reopening of the clearing will to some extent stimulate trade between Germany and Italy, it may be taken for
granted; nevertheless, there has not been any change in the

basic factors, because the operation of the British control

18 making it difficult for Italians to supply substantial
quantities to Germany even when cash payment in free exchange
is made.
PHILLIPS.

EA:LWW

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PLAIN

JI

Berlin
Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 9:30 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

2004, November 9, 4 p.m.
FOR TREASURY

In place of the usual decline in the bill
portfolio which occurs the first WEEK of the month
the Reichsbank report for November 7 shows bill
holdings of 9625 million marks as compared with
9358 million marks on October 31. The increase is
assumed to be the result of banks taking advantage

of their rediscount facilities in order to provide
funds for the 500 million mark State railways loan
subscriptions which opened and closed on November 3.

Contrasting with the increase in the bill portfolio the Reichsbank's holdings of Eligible securities decreased from 1440 million marks on October 31

to 1218 million on November 7. As is usual the first
WEEK of the month the item "miscEllaneous assets"

declined, from 1874 million marks to 1628 million
marks,

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-2-2004, November 9, 4 p.m., from Berlin

marks, and the Reichsbank note circulation fall
from 10819 million marks on October 31 to 10583
million on November 7 .

The bank's hoard of silver coin which has
been increasing due to the replacement of silver
coin in circulation by one, two and five mark
notes of the rentenbank increased by 12 million

marks to a new record figure of 344.8 million
marks.
KIRK

ROW

03/13/19
PRO

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JI

GRAY

Paris

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 6:22 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

2707, November 9, 7 p.m.
FOR THE TREASURY.

Reynaud delivered his address before a large
and Enthusiastic audience which included several
other cabinet ministers, our Ambassador, the
Governor of the Bank of France, Etc. The speech

was more political than financial in nature and
WE presume it is being COVERED fairly fully in

the American press. HE began by referring to the
well known progress made by France in the year since
he last addressed the club, progress made necessary

by the menace of war. "In fact" he said "it's a
long time since WE WERE really at PEACE". HE then

passed to the causes of the war - Germany's "return

to the law of the jungle" - and referred to the
EVENTS of the past SEVERAL years beginning with the

assassination of Dollfus and Ending with the destruction

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-2-2707, November 9, 7 p.m., from Paris

destruction of Poland, Hitler's request for a
breathing space to digest his victims he said
to (?) the French army a few months from now to

a surprise attack which possibly leave the Nazis
absolute masters of Europe could not be accepted.
(END SECTION ONE)
BULLITT
NPL

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JI

GRAY

Paris

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 6:29 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

2707, November 9, 7 p.m. (SECTION TWO)

War is a test of strength and France was
prepared to make the sacrifices required. HE
said he doubted if WE in the United States realized

the Extent of those sacrifices: five million men
taken from their homes to fight, thousands of
families forced to SEEK refuge in other provinces
of France, the Economic life of the country passing
from a regime of PEACE to that of war, the imposition of heavy new taxes. "Many of you will be

surprised if I tell you that the wage of a French
soldier is one and a half American cents per day

and EVEN in the front line it is less than a
quarter of a dollar. The wife of the French soldier
with three children receives on the average fifty
cents a day. France knows that new Efforts are
required

32

-2-2707, November 9, 7 p.M. (SECTION TWO) from Paris

required to replace her five million soldiers and
to revive the Economic life of the country to a
maximum. This willingness to sacrifice is the
certainty of victory. The recovery of yesterday
in time of PEACE is the measurement of tomorrow's

recovery in time of war". As an Example of this
recovery he gave the fact that the return of
capital since the war in spit E of "gigantic payments" has resulted in an increase in reserves
of foreign Exchange of one billion francs (our
telegram No. 2587, October 26, 7 p.m.)
(END SECTION TVO)

BULLITT
NPL

33

GRAY

LMS

Paris

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 6:12 p. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2707, November 9, 7 p. m. (SECTION THREE)

After paying brief tribute (lip SERVICE) to the mutual
cooperation and the pooling of resources between

Britain and France, he turned to the United States.
"America has declared herself neutral. All of you
who are here at least know that if American neutrality
is EVER compromised, it will not be due to France or

her allies. You know that it is not men that the
French Republic and the British Empire need, it is
arms, raw material, machinery. This POSES a problem,

that of Exchange between our countries." HE recalled

our policy, of which the tripartite agreement was an
EVIDENCE, of increasing the Exchange of wealth between

nations -- "one of the aspects of liberty". "What was
true before the war is all the more true today. LET
us not forget the recent lessons of the last war, the
Economic

34

LMS 2-No. 2707, November 9, 7 p. m., SEC. 3, from Paris.

Economic crisis without precedent in history which it
engendered. If in the present war WE commit the Error
of allowing ships which have COME full from the United
States to return Empty, WE shall SOW the SEEds of a

new post-war crisis. It is by French labor that supplies from America must in large part be paid. It is
necessary for the well-being of both countries. It is
not sufficient just to think of the war, WE must also
think of after the war.
(END SECTION THREE)
BULLITT
NK:NPL

35

GRAY

LMS

Paris

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 7:22 p. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2707, November 9, 7 p. m. (SECTION FOUR)

When PEACE comes, the legitimate Economic needs of

peoples must be taken into consideration. In the
work of reconstruction, the role of your country will
be great. I think that when WE have real peace, reconstruction will be much more rapid than is generally
believed. For the collapse of Europe's finances
before the war -- with Germany at the head -- was due

to Enormous military Expenditures. That and nothing
Else is why Germany Economy was about to die when the

war struck, Think of what would be possible for the
well-being and health of peoples if the formidable
mass of military credits could be turned to living
works or to EXTEND the social reconciliation of today."
In conclusion he reiterated that France in the
words of Daladier and Chamberlain is at war today

"because the aggressor, rather than give up his
Enterprise,

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LMS 2-No. 2707, November 9, 7 p. m., SEC. 4, from Paris.

enterprise, preferred to renounce his own ideal after
having renounced ours. France will not carry on the
war imposed upon her by half-way measures. Our ENEmy
has wished a total war. What WE want and what WE are

determined to obtain is a total peace."
(END SECTION FOUR)
BULLITT
NK:NPL

37

PARAPHRASE OF SECTIONS FIVE AND SIX, TELEGRAM NO. 2707
OF NOVEMBER 9, 1939 FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY, PARIS

At the lunch our Bank of France friend was our guest.

In strict confidence he told us that at an early date it is
planned to ship considerable gold to the United States by
the method described in telegram No. 2660 of November 5, the second paragraph. The steamships used in this way will con-

stitute an important part of the convoy protecting airplane
shipments on the way back. In strictest confidence we
innocently learned that the Bank of France has been asked by
the second country mentioned in the eighth paragraph of

strictly confidential telegram No. 2316 of October 5 to

receive the subject matter thereof - which is a highly significant reversal of the position of this country as set forth
in that telegram.
The smoother operation of the exchange control system

seemed to please our friend, as well as the easing up of the
physical pressure with some of the personnel having been

returned. During several days recently the fund had lost on
balance, but it has continued to gain once more. After
the fifteenth of November - the date on which are to be
based the declarations of holdings abroad - he expects that

the return of capital will dry up. Our friend remarked that
sterling is unfortunately what is coming in for the most part.
Next to us at the lunch was Fournier. He told us that
subscriptions to the armament bonds are coming in at a very

satisfactory pace now. In this regard Fournier thinks that
there

38

-2- there will be some help from the publicity campaign which
will be undertaken by the recently organized national committee.
One of the slogans of this committee is that "an armament
bond 18 a bank note which pays interest". With reference to
our telegram of November 5, No. 2660: Fournier confirmed
what we had been told by our friend as well as Rueff and

Couve de Murville - that there 18 not likely to be any
French

immediate upward bound in/payments for war purchases. He

said that there would be a very gradual increase in payments,
in view of the time lag between the placing of the orders,
the manufacturing and so on, and delivery F.A.S. port of

embarkation. Fournier said that as yet it is not possible
to make even a general estimate of how much is involved
or the rate of increase, since there are 80 many unknown
factors depending on the tempo and the nature of the war,
et cetera.
END SECTIONS FIVE AND SIX.
BULLITT.

EA:LNW

39
GRAY

PAP

PARIS

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 7:27 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

2707, November 9, 7 p.m. (SECTION SEVEN).

The public is reminded by a communique issued today

by the Bank of France that the bank directly as well as
through approved intermediaries for transacting exchange

operations is alone qualified to purchase gold in bars,
ingots, et cetera, and French and foreign gold currencies,
that the purchase price is 47,608 francs per kilogram for
fine gold and that the value of coins will be calculated
upon the same basis. It is also recalled that gold held
abroad may be repatriated and that the services of the Bank
of France may be utilized for this purpose.
(END SECTION SEVEN).
BULLITT
NPL

40
GRAY

PAP

PARIS

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 7:30 p.m.

Secretary of State
Washington

2707, November 9, 7 p.m. (SECTION EIGHT).

Further, the public is informed that in order to facilitate exports of French products so urgently desired the Bank

of France is itself prepared directly to discount or to
accept for collection, bills of exchange and checks made out

in foreign currencies; the public is informed that the branche
of the bank will furnish all necessary information as concerns the currencies and the countries regarding which discount in foreign currencies is authorized. The communique

adds that.discount of bills of exchange in foreign currencies
will be definitely calculated in francs based on the of-

ficial rate of the day of negotiation.
Finally it is pointed out that the discount of bills
of exchange expressed in foreign currencies will release exporters from all formalities with the Foreign Exchange office,
as the Bank of France will take the necessary steps to secure the passage of the relevant documents through the office.
eeer

BULLITT
NPL

41

GRAY

JR

Paris

Dated November 9, 1939

Rec'd 8:10 p.m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2707, November 9, 7 p.m. (SECTION NINE)

An arrete published in the Journal Official of
today provides for the institution of a fund for the
Equalization of the prices of lead, zinc, antimony and
cadmium. The stated object of this measure is to reduce
important difference between (a) price of various imports
of these metals and (b) the price of the same metals

produced by local foundries selling on the basis of the
price fixed by the Minister of Public Works. The value
of imported metals will be based on the bills presented
to this Equalization fund and on relevant contracts.
The statement of the Bank of France dated November 2

published today shows the usual monthend changes. It
also reveals however that the state has drawn on its
authorized 25,000,000,000 franc advance for a further

2,300,000,000 to a total of 7,300,000,000. Commercial
discounts are down 1,461,000,000 francs to 6,855,000,000.

Advances against securities increased 87,000,000 and thirty
day

42

-2- #2707, November 9, 7 p.m. (SECTION NINE) from Paris.

day advances WERE up 308,000,000. Note circulation
increased 2,213,000,000 to a total of 147,000,000,000.
Current and depost accounts decreased 670,000,000. The

Treasury account was up 14,000,000 to a total of 121,000,000
Open market operations showed a decrease of 35,000,000.
The ratio of gold COVER was 59.80 as against 60.35 per
cent.
BULLITT
RR

PARTIAL PARAPHRASE SECTION TEN, TELEGRAM NO. 2707
OF NOVEMBER 9, 1939 FROM PARIS.

43

Deposits in Paris savings banks during the week ending
November 4 totaled 12,790,000 francs and withdrawals
3,166,000.

Yesterday's weaker tendency on the securities market was
evident again today. Rente issues were down from 50 centimes
to one franc and variable revenue securities showed moderate

losses. There is a general feeling here, shared by those with
whom we talked today, that the invasion of Holland (and possibly
Belgium though the feeling in this respect is somewhat divided)

is but a matter of a few days. This feeling seems to be partly
vindicated by what we learn confidentially of identified
German troop concentrations - in particular the fact that
Germany has concentrated her shock troops and main motorized

divisions near the frontiers of Belgium, Luxemburg and the

Netherlands. There is general belief here likewise that last
night's Munich explosion was engineered by the Gestapo as a
means of inciting German opinion against England.

The only change in official exchange rates was a further
weakening of the belga to 724 - 730 as against the
previous 728 - 724.
END MESSAGE.

BULLITT.

PER

EA:LWW

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COPY

THE WHITE HOUSE

Washington

November 9, 1939

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

One of the obstacles to the proper equipment of our
country for national defense is the disparity between t he

rate of production of airplane motors and that of the airplanes themselves. This must be synchronized as soon as
possible.

You are hereby directed to work out a policy of depreciation allowance by which the abnormal investment in plant
expansion that will be required of the airplane motors manu-

facturers will be absorbed over the life of the contracts or
during the emergency period.

You are further directed to consult with the appropriate
committees of the Congress for the purpose of devising a

permanent program whereby the facilities thus created will
become a permanent part of the national defense.

(Initialed) FDR.

Bn222
COPY

November to 1939
To:

The Files

From:

Mr. Hanes

Meeting in the office of Assistant Secretary of War Louis
Johnson from 11:00 to 12:30. Present were: Under Secretary of

the Treasury Hanes, Under Secretary of Commerce Noble, Assistant
Secretary of War Johnson, Admirals Stark, Towers and Furlong,
Colonels Byrnes, Rutherford and Schults, General Arnold, and Mr.
Green of State Department.

The first problem brought before the meeting was the recommendation of the Acting Secretary of Navy and the Assistant
Secretary of War that the Munitions Control/Board be augmented
by representatives from State, Treasury and Commerce. Mr. Johnson
said that this recommendation had not been approved by Navy

Department as yet, but when it is he plans to send it to the
President and request that the Committee be enlarged to five
members, including Hanes, Johnson, Edison, Noble and Green.

The second it em brought up for discussion was the terrific
lack of coordination between the British and French in the
matter of purchases. The British have refrained from placing
orders in this country during the period of debate on the
Neutrality Act, whereas the French have been making enormous
orders for airplane engines with the Curtiss-Wright and the
Pratt and Whitney Companies. We were told that our present
capacity to produce airplanes in this/country amounts to a total
of 18,000 planes per year, and that our production of engines
still falls short of this figure by about 6,000 motors a year.
The task, therefore, is to get the motor manufacturers to increase

their capacity to produce by a minimum of 6,000 motors annually.
I suggested that the problem seemed to me to be relatively
simple because in the last analysis the motor manufacturers would
not increase their investment in plant account and machinery for
war purposes without having some assurance that this added investment could be written off completely through depreciation

during the life of the contract or during the per tod of emergency.
I, therefore, suggested to Assistant Secretary Johnson that the
first step would be to have the President authorize the Treasury

to conclude closing agreements with these manufacturers on the
best basis possible.

On the morning of November 9th the President signed a memorandum, copy of which is attached hereto, which I prepared and
brought to him authorizing the Treasury to proceed along the
lines as suggested above.

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Nov. 9,1939

Neutrality Act, Atty Genl decides controversy
between State and Treas as to applicability
of Neutrality Act in favor of Treas; telegrams
tobe sent to all Collectors of Customs

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November 9, 1939

Memorandum to Pres recommending setting up

on purchase of war materials by foreign govts

(Rec page 117 of this volume)

.

of com of representatives from Treas, War
and Navy, to report to Pres thrugh McReynolds,

MOVIE CASES

(1) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Mr. Foley,
dated November 7, 1939, outlining a summary of
the procedure recommended by Mr. Foley, based upon

reports submitted to the Secretary by the special
advisers in the movie cases.

ANNENBERG INVESTIGATION

(2) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from E. H. Foley,

Jr., dated April 14, 1939, informing the Secretary
that Nationwide News Service is planning to sell its
assets to a new corporation for the purpose of
divorcing Nationwide News Service from the Cecelia

Company to avoid possible anti-trust litigation by
the Department of Justice.

(3) Letter to Secretary Morgenthau from William J.

Campbell, United States Attorney, Chicago, dated
August 31, 1939, requesting that the services of
Mr. Samuel Klaus in the Annenberg investigation

be extended until after the trial of the cases.
THE BANK OF AMERICA

(4) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Herman

Oliphant, General Counsel, dated May 26, 1938,

in reference to an attached suggested draft of a

memorandum from the Secretary to the Acting
Comptroller of the Currency, and an attached sug-

gested draft of a letter to the examiner of the

National Labor Relations Board advising him that
confidential information can only be furnished by

direction of the President, in reply to a request
for information on items relating to the Bank of
America.

(5) A letter to Secretary Morgenthau from M. S. Eccles,

Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, dated December 22, 1938, enclosing for the

Secretary's confidential information a copy of the

attached memorandum, which was sent to the President
for his comment. The memorandum relates to removal

of the restriction of the bank holiday.

(6) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Mr. Foley,
Acting General Counsel, dated January 18, 1939,

outlining, for his information, the gist of the

Complaint in the Bank of America suit against the
SEC.

-2(7) Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury from

William 0. Douglas, Chairman, Securities and
Exchange Commission, dated January 20, 1939,

requesting copies of the rules and regulations
which various Secretaries of the Treasury have
promulgated with respect to disclosure of information contained in the files of the Treasury,
and affidavit concerning the present and past
policy of the Treasury with respect to furnishing
such information to governmental agencies, such
as disclosing information contained in the reports
of an examination of a national bank.

(8) Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury from

William O. Douglas, Chairman, Securities and
Exchange Commission, dated January 20, 1939, re-

questing an affidavit of the Comptroller of the
Currency to the effect that he does not regard
himself as authorized by law to prescribe the
accounting methods and practices to be followed
by national banking associations and the maintenance of their own books and records, for use
in the suit instituted by the Bank of America
National Trust and Savings Association to enjoin
the Commission. "Request approved H. Morgenthau,

Jr. January 21, 1939."

(9) Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury from

William 0. Douglas, Chairman, Securities and
Exchange Commission, dated January 27, 1939,

requesting certified copies of the rules and
regulations with respect to the disclosure of

departmental information which have been promulgated by various Secretaries of the Treasury.
EUROPEAN WAR SITUATIONS

(10) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Herman

Oliphant, dated September 16, 1938, outlining
the things which might be necessary for the
Treasury to do immediately if a general European
war breaks out.

(11) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from E. H.

Foley, Jr., Acting General Counsel, dated
March 21, 1939, in reference to the power of
the Secretary of the Treasury, under Section 1
of the Espionage Act of June 15, 1917, 40 Stat.

220 (U.S.C., title 50, sec. 191), with the ap-

proval of the President, to make rules and regulations governing the anchorage and movements of

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-any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the terri-

torial waters of the United States. It is

stated that the proclamation and the regulations
have been drafted and can be put before the
President at any time.
(12) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from E. H.
Foley, Jr., dated September 4, 1939, supplementing
his memorandum of the same date, suggesting that

as an alternative to the use of the American
President Lines, Inc. there might be employed in

the Normandie transaction as purchaser the Panama

Railroad Company. A typewritten copy of the charter
and by-laws of the company is attached.

(13) Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury from

George L. Harrison, President, Federal Reserve
Bank of New York, dated September 16, 1939,

acknowledging receipt of the Secretary's letter
of September 15, referring to his earlier letter

of September 6, requesting the bank to make available to examiners of the Securities and Exchange
Commission certain documents filed, showing the
amounts of short-term assets in Germany.

(14) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Mr. Foley,

dated October 30, 1939, in reference to the statement made by Senator Pittman on October 27 that

the pending neutrality bill prohibited the making
of loans to belligerent governments by governmental corporations, such as R.F.C. and the ExportImport Bank. Copy of statement from Congressional
Record of October 27, 1939, p. 1655, attached.

COUNTERVAILING DUTIES.

(15) Confidential memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau
from F.D.R. stating "To speak to me about and in
the meantime do what you can". Photostatic copy
of a memorandum for the President from "C.H.",

the Secretary of State, re present and prospective
attitude of the Government of Italy toward the
proposed imposition of countervailing duties by
the Treasury, and photostatic copy of telegram
to Secretary of State from Phillips, dated June 1,
1939.

(16) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Herman

Oliphant, dated November 23, 1938, re countervailing
duties on German imports. Attached is proposed

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letter to the Secretary of State; letter addressed
to the Secretary of State from the Secretary of the

Treasury, dated October 31, 1938, together with
memorandum of law referred to therein; proposed

letter to the President; copy of Secretary Hull's
letter to the Secretary of the Treasury, dated

November 19, 1938; proposed Treasury Decision.
STABILIZATION FUND

(17) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Mr. Foley,
Acting General Counsel, dated February 6, 1939,

submitting an attached draft of a letter in the

event that Senator Reynolds follows up his last
request for information about the stabilization
fund.
ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE TO LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES

(18) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from E. H.

Foley, Jr., Acting General Counsel, dated
March 8, 1939, in reference to the attached
material relative to economic assistance to
Latin American countries. Attached is copy
of letter to the President from the Secretary
of the Treasury, dated June 7, 1938, enclosing

a copy of draft of bill; photostatic copy of

memorandum to the Secretary of the Treasury from
F.D.R., dated June 10, 1938, sent from Mr.

Oliphant to the Secretary, concerning the

President's memorandum of June 10; copy of

memorandum dated November 3 from Messrs.

Oliphant and White; copy of proposed letter
to the President for the Secretary's signature.
PRIVATE CAPITAL IN PUBLIC HOUSING PROGRAM

(19) Letter to the Secretary from Nathan Straus,
Administrator, United States Housing Authority,
dated December 2, 1938, in regard to proposal

for enlisting private funds in the public

housing program. Attached is memorandum to

Administrator, United States Housing Authority.

R.F.C. BORROWING

(20) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from E. H.

Foley, Jr., Acting General Counsel, dated
January 17, 1939, outlining material with reference to borrowing by the R.F.C.

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UNIFORM HANDLING OF IDENTICAL BILLS

(21) Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury from

Robert H. Jackson, Acting Attorney General,
dated February 27, 1939, transmitting a revised
draft of the proposed "Plan for Uniform Handling

of Identical Bids for all Departments".

ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE

(22) Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury

from Frank Murphy, Attorney General, dated
March 16, 1939, requesting that he designate

a
as a Advisory
Committee
agency,

(23)
Letter
the
Treasury, General,
or

dated it
receipt
of
his
was
advised desigrepresentative commission letter April to that Mr. from for of 4, Mr. Hanes, under March each Frank 1939, E. administrative his H. 29, Murphy, acknowledging Acting member Foley authority. 1939, Secretary had Attorney of in the been which board, of

nated to represent the Treasury Department on
the Advisory Committee in the study of administrative procedure.

MOUNT RUSHMORE NATIONAL MEMORIAL COMMISSION

(24) Letter to the Secretary from Gutzon Borglum,
Director, Mt. Rushmore National Memorial

Commission, dated May 22, 1939, commending

the work of Mr. Herman Oliphant, and making

an appeal that his interest in the memorial

be continued.
THE MEAD BILL

(25) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Mr.

Foley, dated June 5, 1939, discussing the
views of Marriner S. Eccles, Chairman of the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve
System, with respect to the Mead Bill, as
expressed before a Subcommittee of the Senate
Committee on Banking and Currency.
EXECUTIVE REORGANIZATION BILL

(26) Letter to Mr. Morgenthau from Summer Gerard,
dated March 11, 1938, urging defeat of Executive

Reorganization Bill.

TAX REVISION

(27) Memorandum to Secretary Morgenthau from Herman

Oliphant, dated January 7, 1938, asking whether the

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Secretary would want him to appear in case

he is called before one or both of the

Congressional committees concerning tax

legislation.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT

54

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 9, 1939

TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Foley

Based upon the reports submitted to you by the special advisers in the
movie cases and for the purpose of carrying out their recommendations, the
following is a summary of the procedure which I recommend.
AS TO ZANUCK
A.

Civil Action.

1. The Commissioner issue a notice of deficiency for income tax,
with fraud penalty, due by reason of the receipt by Zanuck in 1935 of
the 10 per cent excess stock in Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation
pursuant to the merger.

2. If Zanuck petitions the Board of Tax Appeals regarding the

assessment recommended above on the theory he received 30 per cent of
Century's outstanding stock in 1934 (when he admits having received a

20 per cent interest in Century (20 shares) onwhich he paid a deficiency
in 1936), and if the Board should believe Zanuck, then the Commissioner

should issue a notice of deficiency for income tax, with fraud penalty,

due upon the 10 per cent of stock (10 shares) received by Zanuck in 1934.

B. Criminal Prosecution.
1. Zanuck be prosecuted for making false statements or affidavits
knowing the same to contain fraudulent or fictitious statements in con-

nection with the investigation of his tax liability.

2. Zanuck be prosecuted for causing Kadis, an Internal Revenue
Agent, to be bribed.
AS TO SCHENCK
A.

Civil Action.

1. The Commissioner issue a notice of deficiency for income tax,
with fraud penalty, due from Schenck for the year 1935 for taking a false
deduction of about $175,000 based on a loss resulting from a sham sale of
stock in a Mexican corporation in December, 1935 to Roland West (then held
on suspicion of the murder of Thelma Todd), Schenck arranging for a loan
to West of $50,000 to buy the stock which had paid over $33,000 dividends
in 1935, and later discharging West's debt.

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2. The Commissioner issue a notice of deficiency for income tax,
with fraud penalty, due from Schenck for the years 1935, 1936 and 1937
for deducting large items as business expense which were clearly personal living or household expenses.

B. Criminal Prosecution.
1. Schenck be prosecuted for willfully attempting to evade or defeat
income taxes.

2. Schenck be prosecuted for making false statements or affidavits
knowing the same to contain fraudulent or fictitious statements in con-

nection with the investigation of Zanuck's tax liability and the merger of
Century with Fox.

3. Schenck be prosecuted for causing Kadis, an Internal Revenue Agent,
to be bribed.
AS TO GOETZ
A.

Civil Action.

Neither of the special advisers find any civil liability on the part
of Goetz or on the part of the Mayer Family Trust. I agree fully.
B.

Criminal Prosecution.

Neither of the special advisers makes any distinction between the
criminal culpability of Goetz and Zanuck. I agree fully. Consequently,

the discussion above concerning the criminal prosecution of Zanuck applies

to Goetz. It is expected by those familiar with Goetz, however, that he
will testify for the Government ultimately.
AS TO KADIS AND OTHERS
A.

Civil Action.

No civil action is contemplated against Kadis at this time.
B.

Criminal Prosecution.

1. Kadis should be prosecuted for colluding to defraud the United
States, willfully neglecting to perform his duties, doing or omitting to
do acts with intent to enable other persons to defraud the United States,
and accepting money for adjusting alleged violations of law and related
offenses.

2. Kadis should be prosecuted for willfully assisting in the preparation and presentation of false affidavits in connection with the respective
stockholdings of Zanuck, Schenck and Goets.

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-3AS TO A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION

After being requested by you to re-examine the so-called movie cases,
I submitted to you a "Statement of Facts" on November 1, 1939, in which
the only argument made was to the effect that there ought to be a Grand

Jury investigation for the purpose of detecting the true facts.

I now wish to renew this recommendation, with the further suggestion
that it be conducted by the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
Mr. Knollenberg is in accord with this recommendation.
Mr. Greenbaum is also in accord with this recommendation.

It is not the function of the Treasury Department to make definite
and certain that particular persons have committed particular crimes against
the Government before a Grand Jury investigation is made. In our legal
system, examination of witnesses by a Grand Jury need not be preceded by

formal charges against particular individuals.

It is my recommendation to proceed in accordance with this memorandum as soon as the Department of Justice returns the cases to us.
Assistant Attorney General Sam Clark has indicated he expects to do this
in the near future. When the cases are returned, our next move would be
to reply outlining our proposed course of action and making recommendations
concerning the submission of the criminal phases of the cases to the

United States District Attorney in the Southern District of New York for a
Grand Jury investigation.

ENTH.

Approved:

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THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF

Foley
Greenbaum

Knollenberg
ON THE MOVIE CASES

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November 8, 1939

TABLE OF CONTENTS

Foley's Recommendations in the Movie Cases

1

Greenbaum's Recommendations Re: "Joseph M. Schenck, Darryl

F. Zanuck, William Goetz, William B. Dover
and Harry Kadis.

2

Knollenberg's Recommendations Re: "Possible Criminal

Liability of Joseph M. Schenck, Derryl F.
Zanuck, William Goetz, William B. Dover and

Harry Kadis.

3

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 8, 1939

TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Foley

Based upon the reports submitted to you by the special advisers in the
movie cases and for the purpose of carrying out their recommendations, the
following procedure is recommended:
AS TO ZANUCK
A.

Civil Action.
1. The Commissioner issue a notice of deficiency for income tax,

with fraud penalty, due by reason of the receipt by Zanuck in 1935 of
the 10 per cent excess stock in Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation
pursuant to the merger.
Comment. Mr. Greenbaum's memorandum of November 8,

1939, on page 3, $3, after referring to the disparity in

the proportion of stock received by Zanuck, states: "Even
in the absence of positive proof at the present time, I
feel that under the peculiar and unusual circumstances in
this case the Bureau should send Zanuck a notice of defic-

iency (90 day letter) in regard to his 1935 return."
Mr. Knollenberg's memorandum of November 8, 1939, on

page 6, n1, states: "I think that there is ground for the

view that the excess Fox stock was received by Zanuck as
additional compensation for the services to be rendered by
him to Fox under the employment contract entered into with

Fox. Furthermore, if the affidavit * * * was true, there

is strongground for the view that the excess Fox stock was
given to Zanuck in liquidation of an enforceable claim for
additional Century stock which he had against Schenck and
Goetz, in which event the excess Fox stock was received by
Zanuck not in exchange for his Century stock, but for
property, i.e., his claim against Schenck and Goets.

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"I think that a deficiency should be asserted against

Zanuck for 1935 based on the value of this excess Fox stock.
The value of this stock doubtless exceeded 25 percentum of
the amount of gross income as stated in Zanuck's 1935 return,
and therefore an additional tax can be assessed, or a ninety
day letter sent out, any time up to March 25, 1941 - even
though no fraud charge can be maintained."

Statute of Limitations. The 3 year statute of limita-

tions would have expired [I.R.C. $275(a)] but for a waiver

which extended until March 15, 1940, the time for assessment.

[I.R.C. $276(b)] This assumes the return itself was not
fraudulent in which case the statute never runs. [I.R.C.
$276(a)]

2. If Zanuck petitions the Board of Tax Appeals regarding the
assessment recommended above on the theory he received 30 per cent of

Century's outstanding stock in 1934 (when he admits having received a

20 per cent interest in Century (20 shares) on which he paid a deficiency in 1936), and if the Board should believe Zanuck, then the Com-

missioner should issue a notice of deficiency for income tax, with
fraud penalty, due upon the 10 per cent of stock (10 shares) received
by Zanuck in 1934.
Comment. Mr. Greenbaum's memorandum of November 8, 1939,

on page 4, at the end of the 1st paragraph states: "If it be
a fact that Zanuck did own 30 per cent of the stock prior to

the reorganization, there must have been a taxable gain to him
at the time when his interest was increased from 20 per cent
to 30 per cent. No such gain has been reported by him and his

tax liability for the gain is clear."

Mr. Knollenberg's memorandum of November 8, 1939, on

page 7, n1, states: "It is conceivable that Zanuck may contend that the alleged right to receive the additional 10
percent of Century stock constituted additional income at the
time that Schenck and Goetz promised him the additional 10
percent. If the promise was made in 1934, the statute would
still be open (for reasons explained above in connection with

1935) without reference to the question of fraud. If the alleged promise was given before 1934, additional taxes could be

collected only if it is possible to establish that Zanuck was

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fraudulent in failing to report income on account of the
receipt of the promise for additional stock, in the year in

which the promise was given."

Statute of Limitations. The three year statute of limitations has expired and no waiver has been executed by Zanuck;

but, even in the absence of fraud in connection with the 1934

tax return, an assessment may still be made because Zanuck
omitted from gross income an amount properly includible there-

in in excess of 25 per cent of the amount of gross income

stated in his return. Because of this the statute will not

expire until 5 years after the 1934 return was filed which
would allow us until the spring of 1940. [I.R.C. $275(c)]
B. Criminal Prosecution.

1. Zanuck be prosecuted for making false statements or affidavits
knowing the same to contain fraudulent or fictitious statements in con-

nection with the investigation of his tax liability. [R.S. $5438, Crim.
Code $35, as amended, 18 U.S.C. $80]

2. Zanuck be prosecuted for causing Kadis, an Internal Revenue

Agent, to be bribed. [R.S. $5451, Crim. Code $39, 18 U.S.C. $91]
Comment. Mr. Greenbaum's memorandum of November 8, 1939,

on page 2, 11, states: "Although these and the other known
facts, some of which are referred to in Mr. Knollenberg's
memorandum, are insufficient to establish the guilt of parties
other than Kadis, they do furnish ample basis for a Grand Jury
investigation, in which further evidence should be uncovered
implicating those who gave the bribe!, and, again on page 4,
14, states: "It is recommended that criminal prosecution be

initiated in the Southern District of New York and it is in

connection with such a Grand Jury presentation under $35 that
I feel that further evidence can be developed on the bribery
charges against Kadis and others referred to above."
Mr. Knollenberg's memorandum of November 8, 1939, on

page 6, 13, states: "Turning to the question of prosecution
of Zanuck, I think there is not sufficient ground for criminal

proceedings based on the view that he filed a false and fraudu-

lent return for 1935. I an even inclined to think that there
is not sufficient ground for asserting civil fraud. The whole
question of whether stock received by an employee was to be

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regarded as taxable income at the time received or at the

time sold was still in the field of doubt in March 1936,
and it is entirely conceivable that Zanuck was not acting
in bad faith in having failed to return any taxable income
on account of the receipt of the excess Fox stock!, but

goes on to say on page 9, 11: "There is considerable
evidence that one or all of Schenck, Goets and Zanuck were
instrumental through Fox or Dover or directly in bribing
Mr. Kadis in 1937 and 1938. It seems to me highly advisable
that further evidence be sought on this point with a view to
prosecution, probably in California."

Statute of Limitations. A three year statute of limi-

tations applies to both the above crimes. [R.S. $1044, 18
U.S.C. $582] The statute will run on or about November 11,
1939, as to the alleged bribery in the Waldorf-Astoria in
New York City; however, there is evidence Kadis was also

bribed in Los Angeles in 1938. The false affidavits of
Zanuck were also filed in 1938. If a Grand Jury investigation is conducted as herein recommended in the Southern

District of New York, it is believed that sufficient

information will be secured from that investigation to warrant the presentation before a Grand Jury in Southern Cali-

fornia, and there is sufficient time for such an investiga-

tion.

AS TO SCHENCK
A.

Civil Action.
1. The Commissioner issue a notice of deficiency for income tax,

with fraud penalty, due from Schenck for the year 1935 for taking a
false deduction of about $175,000 based on a loss resulting from a
sham sale of stock in a Mexican corporation in December, 1935 to
Roland West (then held on suspicion of the murder of Thelma Todd),
Schenck arranging for a loan to West of $50,000 to buy the stock which
had paid over $33,000 dividends in 1935, and later discharging West's
debt.

2. The Commissioner issue a notice of deficiency for income tax,

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with fraud penalty, due from Schenck for the years 1935, 1936 and 1937
for deducting large items as business expense which were clearly personal living or household expenses.
Comment. Mr. Greenbaum's memorandum of November 8,

1939, on page 5, under point 5, states: "In my opinion, there
seems ample justification for an additional assessment against
him [Schenck] by reason of the alleged loss of stock in 1935
and false deductions for 1935, 1936 and 1937. I likewise feel
that the facts warrant a fraud penalty and criminal prosecution."

Statute of Limitations. A waiver extending the statute

of limitations until December 31, 1939, has been executed by

Schenck for the year 1935. The statute of limitations for

the years 1936 and 1937 has not expired and waivers could
be secured, if necessary, before an assessment is made.

B.

Criminal Prosecution.

1. Schenck be prosecuted for willfully attempting to evade or
defeat income taxes. [Revenue Acts of 1932 and 1934 $145(b), 26 U.S.C.
$145(b)]

Comment. In addition to Mr. Greenbaum's recommenda-

tion that Schenck be prosecuted for income tax evasion (as
quoted in the Comment next preceding), Mr. Knollenberg's
memorandum of November 8, 1939, on page 9, 13, states that
the case against Schenck "seems to be strong."

Statute of Limitations. The statute of limitations

for income tax evasion is six years from the commission of
the offense. [Revenue Act of 1932 $1108, 18 U.S.C. $585]
2. Schenck be prosecuted for making false statements or affidavits knowing the same to contain fraudulent or fictitious statements

in connection with the investigation of Zanuck's tax liability and the
merger of Century with Fox. [R.S. $5438, Crim. Code $35, as amended,
18 U.S.C. $80]

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3. Schenck be prosecuted for causing Kadis, an Internal Revenue
Agent, to be bribed. [R.S.$5451, Crim. Code $39, 18 U.S.C. $91]
Comment. Schenck seems to be the chief malefactor.
Schenck (with Zanuck and Goetz) had a written agreement to

indemnify Fox for tax liability resulting from the merger.

He may also have had a similar secret arrangement to

indennify Zanuck for any tax liability resulting from the

excess shares of stock received by Zanuck. Schenck may
also be motivated by the desire to conceal from Zanuck the

fact that Zanuck did not receive in reality 30 per cent of

the preferred stock in Twentieth Century-Fox.

Statute of Limitations. The statement on this point
in connection with the discussion of Zanuck's criminal
culpability (B, 2 as to Zanuck above) also applies here.
AS TO GOETZ

Civil Action.

A.

Neither of the special advisers find any civil liability on the
part of Goetz or on the part of the Mayer Family Trust. I agree fully.
B.

Criminal Prosecution.

Neither of the special advisers makes any distinction between the

criminal culpability of Goetz and Zanuck. I agree fully. Consequently
the discussion above concerning the criminal prosecution of Zanuck

applies to Goetz. It is expected by those familiar with Goetz, however,
that he will testify for the Government ultimately.
AS TO KADIS AND OTHERS

A. Civil Action.
No civil action is contemplated against Kadis at this time.
B.

Criminal Prosecution.

1. Kadis should be prosecuted for colluding to defraud the United

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States, willfully neglecting to perform his duties, doing or omitting
to do acts with intent to enable other persons to defraud the United
States, and accepting money for adjusting alleged violations of law and
related offenses. [R.S. $3169, 26 U.S.C. $ 1828(e)]
Comment. Mr. Greenbaum's memorandum of November 8,

1939, on page 2, 12, states that the advisability of proceeding under the section cited above against Kadis with a con-

spiracy charge so far as others are concerned should be considered because, as Mr. Greenbaum declares: "As stated in a
memorandum of Elmer Irey dated October 30, 1939, the persons
responsible for the bribery and the conspiracy should not
should not escape punishment." Mr. Knollenberg's memorandum
of November 8, 1939, on page 9, 11, also points out the ad-

visability "that further evidence be sought on this point
with a view to prosecution, probably in California."

The apparent failure of the present Grand Jury investi-

gation to develop evidence of bribery can not be given much
weight. In his memorandum of November 8, 1939, Mr. Greenbaum,

on page 2, T3, puts the matter bluntly as follows:

"The original recommendation of the Bureau in this
respect is fully warranted by the known facts. Although
this task will be made more difficult by reason of the
rather perfunctory Grand Jury investigation already made,

the situation is sufficiently serious to warrant further

action. The Grand Jury investigation only took one hour
and twenty minutes, and consisted of calling two hostile
witnesses whose testimony might have been helpful, but
who were given the opportunity to see the Government's
hand and to put white-washing denials in the record. In
spite of this, it is recommended that further action be
taken, and it is believed that this can be done in connection with the prosecutions hereafter recommended."

Statute of Limitations. The six year statute of limitations for certain crimes under the internal revenue laws
applies to some of the offenses by Kadis referred to above.
[Revenue Act of 1932 $1108, 18 U.S.C. $585] Even if the

general three year statute of limitations for offenses against

the United States applies, Kadis committed the same right up
to May of this year when he was separated from the service.
[R.S. $1044, 18 U.S.C. $582] Consequently, even though the
three year statute will have expired on or about November 11,

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&
1939 on the bribery alleged to have occurred in the WaldorfAstoria in New York City on or about November 11, 1936, Kadis

is still subject to prosecution on the bribery in Los Angeles

alleged to have occurred in Mr. Goetz' office in 1938, and
for his other unlawful acts as a Revenue Agent.

2. Kadis should be prosecuted for willfully assisting in the preparation and presentation of false affidavits in connection with the
respective stockholdings of Zanuck, Schenck and Goetz. [Revenue Act of
1926 $1114(c), 26 U.S.C. $1693(b)]
Comment. Mr. Creenbaum's memorandum of November 8, 1939,

on page 2, states: "Kadis actively participated in the preparation of [these] affidavits" which were intended to mislead

the Government, and indicates that Dover (then Zanuck's business agent) was a participant. In addition, Nayfack (a nephew
of Schenck who is also a lawyer in New York) also participated

in the preparation of the false affidavits and both of them
should also be prosecuted on this charge.

[N.B. There are other minor figures in addition to Dover

and Nayfack who are involved in one or more of the alleged

crimes but their criminal culpability has not been analyzed by

me since they are only paid satellites of Schenck and Zanuck.
A general charge of conspiracy to defraud the United States
out of income taxes would appear warranted against Schenck,
Zanuck, Goetz, Dover, Nayfack, Kadis and Moskowitz (who prepared
Schenck's returns) and would bring in these other participants.
(R.S. $5440, Crim. Code $37, 18 U.S.C. $88)]

Statute of Limitations. The statute of limitations for
aiding in the preparation or presentation of false affidavits
does not run until six years after the affidavit is filed and

the time during which the person who commits such offense is
absent from the District wherein the same is committed is not
included as part of the time. [Revenue Act of 1932 $1108, 18
U.S.C. $585] The same is true of offenses involving defrauding or attempting to defraud the United States, whether by
conspiracy or not, and consequently there is no problem rela-

tive to the statute of limitations on this phase of the case.
AS TO A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION

After being requested by you to re-examine the so-called movie cases,

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I submitted to you a "Statement of Facts" on November 1, 1939, in which
the only argument made was to the effect that there ought to be a Grand

Jury investigation for the purpose of detecting the true facts. The
third paragraph of page 4 of such Statement says:

"Were it not for the disproportionate distribution, the

nontaxability of the reorganization would probably not be

questioned. But this fact, considered in the light of such
events as the witholding of Exhibit E from the plan of merger

submitted for a ruling by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue,
the attempts to conceal the telegraphic communications between
Zanuck and Schenck showing the true nature of the transaction,
the submission of apparently false and misleading affidavits
to the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the obvious evasiveness of
Zanuck and Schenck when questioned at the Department of Justice,

the evidence of the bribery by Zanuck's former business agent
of the Internal Revenue Agent who first found that Zanuck had
failed to report his 1934 income properly, and similar indica-

tions of intent to conceal, warrants a grand jury investigation

forthe
thecase."
purpose of shedding more light on the criminal aspects
of

I now wish to renew this recommendation, with the further suggestion
that it be conducted by the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
Mr. Knollenberg is in accord with this recommendation. In his memorandum of November 8, 1939, on page 9, 44, he said,

"Although I would wish to give the matter further consideration before making a final recommendation my present view is that

the case against Schenck for 1935 on account of items other than
the Fox stock is so strong that the case ought to be presented to
the Grand Jury in New York, where Schenck's income tax return for
1935 was filed, There is, however, no occasion to make an im-

mediate decision on this point since the statute will not run for
several years. In the course of the Grand Jury investigation on
the 1935 return I believe that a great deal of other important
matter may well be brought out, including evidence to support our
belief that Kadis has been bribed by Schenck, et al."

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Mr. Greenbaum is also in accord with this recommendation. In his
memorandum of November 8, 1939, on page 4, 12, he said:

## * * Many of these acts occurred in New York, the
place where Schenck and the Corporation filed their returns.
It is recommended that criminal prosecution be initiated in
the Southern District of New York, and it is in connection
with such a Grand Jury presentation under Section 35 that I
feel that further evidence can be developed on the bribery
charges against Kadis and others referred to above."
And on page 6, nl, he also said:
"Although I do not agree that the known facts bear out

the Bureau as to its contention that tax liability resulted

to Messrs. Schenck and Goetz by reason of the reorganization,
I do agree fully with the recommendations of the Bureau here-

tofore made that the facts called for criminal prosecution.
Indeed, it seems to me that on the basis of the Bureau's

investigation, it would have been derelict in its duty if it

had not made a recommendation for action by the Department of
Justice."

It is not the function of the Treasury Department to make definite
and certain that particular persons have committed particular crimes
against the Government before a Grand Jury investigation is made. In
our legal system, examination of witnesses by a Grand Jury need not be

preceded by formal charges against particular individuals.
The Grand Jury has always been, as the Supreme Court of the United
States has declared:

* a grand inquest, a body with powers of investigation
and inquisition, the scope of whose inquiries is not to be
limited narrowly by questions of propriety or forecasts of
the probable result of the investigation, or by doubts whether
any particular individual will be found properly subject to an
accusation of crime. As has been said before, the identity
of the offender, and the precise nature of the offense, if
there be one, normally are developed at the conclusionUnited
of the

grand jury's labors, not at the beginning." Blair V.

States, (1919) 250 U.S. 273, per Pitney, J. (underlining mine)]

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It is my recommendation to proceed in accordance with this memorandum as soon as the Department of Justice returns the cases to us.
Assistant Attorney General San Clark has indicated he expects to do

this in the near future. When the cases are returned, our next move
would be to reply outlining our proposed course of action and making
recommendations concerning the submission of the criminal phases of

the cases to the United States District Attorney in the Southern District of New York for a Grand Jury investigation.

E.N.7L.

Approved:

Secretary of the Treasury

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Mr. Edward S. Greenbaum's
memorandum of recommendations
285 Madison Avenue,
New York, New York.

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November 8, 1939

RE:

JOSEPH M. SCHENCK, DARRYL F. ZANUCK, WILLIAM GOETZ, WILLIAM B.
DOVER AND HARRY KADIS.

I concur in Mr. Knollenberg's memorandum dated November 8, 1939

but think it may be helpful to submit the following comments in
amplification:

1. The bribery of Revenue Agent Kadis in November, 1936.

As stated by Mr. Knollenberg, the Department has not sufficient

evidence at the present time to warrant an indictment for the act of
bribery alleged to have occurred in November, 1936. However, this does

not mean that no criminal action should be taken in connection with the

bribery charge, including this specific act. The facts indicate clearly
that Agent Kadis was bribed and warrant presentation to a Grand Jury.

Such presentation should be as part of an investigation into other re-

lated matters, as hereafter indicated, and not as an isolated fact.
The following are some of the known facts presently susceptible

of proof: Special Agent Kadis accepted substantial favors and gratuities
from the taxpayers, including the use of a limousine automobile at a cost
to Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation of almost $3,500; he secured
the employment by this company of a young lady of his acquaintance at
a compensation of $100 a week, which employment lasted for several years

up to and including February, 1939; he was assigned to a further field
investigation in 1938 and promptly notified Dover of this assignment,

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-2whereupon, Dover cabled Zanuck, who was then in Paris, that he had received

a telephone call from Kadis, "our tax man New York", who explained that
he had been assigned to the case and felt that this was an "unusually good

break falling into his hands instead of others"; Dover, who was neither
an attorney or tax expert secured a power of attorney from Mr. and Mrs.
Goetz, who had their own counsel, and proceeded to New York for the

preparation of affidavits; and Kadis actively participated in the preparation of these affidavits.
Although these and the other known facts, some of which are

referred to in Mr. Knollenberg's memorandum, are insufficient to establish

the guilt of parties other than Kadis, they do furnish ample basis for
a Grand Jury investigation, in which further evidence should be uncovered
implicating those who gave the bribe.

Consideration should also be given to the advisability of
proceeding under I.R.C. Section 4047(e), R.S. 3152, so far as Kadis is
concerned, and with a conspiracy charge so far as others are concerned.
As stated in a memorandum of Elmer Irey dated October 30, 1939, the persons

responsible for the bribery and the conspiracy should not escape punishment.

The original recommendation of the Bureau in this respect is
fully warranted by the known facts. Although this task will be made

more difficult by reason of the rather perfunctory Grand Jury investigation
already made, the situation is sufficiently serious to warrant further
action. The Grand Jury investigation only took one hour and twenty minutes,
and consisted of calling two hostile witnesses whose testimony might have

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-3been helpful, but who were given the opportunity to see the Government's

hand and to put white-washing denials in the record. In spite of this,
it is recommended that further action be taken, and it is believed that
this can be done in connection with the prosecutions hereafter recommended.
2.

Failure to report taxable profit on exchange of Century

stock for Fox stock in 1935.

I agree with Mr. Knollenberg that the reorganization did

not result in taxable profit to Messrs. Schenck and Goetz. The criminal
liability of Messrs. Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck will be discussed in

item 4. The tax liability of Zanuck will be discussed in point 3.
3. Failure of Zanuck to report as taxable income the value of
certain of the Fox stock received by him in 1935.
As pointed out by Mr. Knollenberg, Zanuck would have no
taxable gain if the stock he received in the new company was in pursuence

of the plan of reorganization "solely for" his Century stock. (Section
112(b)(3)). The documentary evidence as to whether part of this stock
was actually received in return for other benefits, such as a more
favorable employment contract, is not yet available for our examination.

Disparity in the proportion of stock received is indicative that this
may be the fact and, if established, would warrant the Bureau in asserting
a deficiency against Zanuck for 1935. Even in the absence of positive

proof at the present time, I feel that under the peculiar and unusual
circumstances in this case the Bureau should send Zanuck a notice of

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-deficiency (90-day letter) in regard to his 1935 return.

If this cannot be ultimately sustained, nevertheless, affidavits
furnished by Messrs. Zanuck, Schenck and Goetz furnish basis for assess-

ment in 1934. In these affidavits dated December 23, 1938, they state,
under oath, that Zanuck owned 30 per cent of the old Century stock (I

have not seen these affidávits, but assume that the excerpts furnished

are correctly quoted). If it be a fact that Zanuck did own 30 per cent
of the stock prior to the reorganization, there must have been a taxable
gain to him at the time when his interest was increased from 20 per cent

to 30 per cent. No such gain has been reported by him and his tax liability
for the gain is clear.

4. Making a false statement in affidavits filed in 1938.
I agree that Section 35 of the Criminal Code is applicable
but doubt whether conviction could be obtained if there WELS no original

tax liability. For the reason stated above, however, I feel that such
liability on Zanuck's part exists and if that be a fact then I recommend
presentation to a Grand Jury of the evidence concerning the acts of Messrs.
Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck and other persons whose acts may have violated

the provisions of Section 35. Many of these acts occurred in New York,

the place where Schenck and the Corporation filed their returns. It
is recommended that criminal prosecution be initiated in the Southern

District of New York, and it is in connection with such a Grand Jury
presentation under Section 35 that I feel that further evidence can be
developed on the bribery charges against Kadis and others referred to above.

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5.

Schenck's liability on his 1935, 1936 and 1937 returns.
As pointed out by Mr. Knollenberg, there is strong evidence,

wholly apart from the reorganization question, that Schenck filed fraudulent income tax returns for 1935, 1936 and 1937. This is the subject
matter of a letter from the Bureau to the Department of Justice dated
July 14, 1939. Although we have had no opportunity to go into this
matter fully, my examination of the available papers indicates that
in 1935 Schenck took a false deduction of $173,228.33 on an alleged

loss resulting from the sale of stock in a Mexican corporation. This
stock was alleged to have been sold by him in December, 1935 for
$50,000, although in that year he received dividends of $33,853 on

that stock. The alleged purchaser of the stock apparently was without
funds and Schenck provided him with funds to make the so-called payment

of $50,000. In this 1935 return, Schenck took deductions for expenses
of which over $28,000 seemed to be clearly false. Although his contract
with the corporation entitled him to reimbursement for "reasonable
traveling and living expenses while away. from home" he made deductions

in his personal return, for what he called business expenses and for
such items as an automobile purchased for a lady friend, flowers, salary

of his valet, personal barber, etc. In his returns for 1936 and 1937
similar deductions appear. In my opinion, there seems ample justification
for an additional assessment againsthim by reason of the alleged loss

of stock in 1935 and false deductions for 1935, 1936 and 1937. I likewise feel that the facts warrant a fraud penalty and criminal prosecution.

-General Comments

Although I do not agree that the known facts bear out the

Bureau as to its contention that tax liability resulted to Messrs.
Schenck and Goetz by reason of the reorganization, I do agree fully
with the recommendations of the Bureau heretofore made that the

facts called for criminal prosecution. Indeed, it seems to me that
on the basis of the Bureau's investigation, it would have been derelict
in its duty if it had not made a recommendation for action by the
Department of Justice.

Although it may be beyond the scope of this memorandum,

nevertheless, I am taking the liberty of making a further suggestion.
It is my feeling that where the Bureau makes a recommendation for

criminal action arising out of a tax situation, it should send notice
of deficiency against the taxpayer prior to the institution of criminal
proceedings. Such action should, of course, not be taken without con-

sultation with those officials in the Department of Justice who will
be charged with the responsibility of conducting the criminal proceedings.

I am cognizant of the difficulties in connection with the
adoption of such a new procedure and understand the reasons why it

has been long established policy to postpone such action until after
the criminal proceeding. However, I feel that the Supreme Court's
decision in the Mitchell Case overruling the Coffey Case eliminates

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-many of the objections that heretofore existed. Prosecution without

a prior assertion of tax liability furnishes the taxpayer with an
opportunity to cry "persecution" by alleging that he is being criminally
prosecuted without establishment of such liability and opportunity
to pay. Such an argument might prove a weighty one before a jury in

a prosecution under Section 35. It is believed that if the facts
warrant an assessment, such an assessment should be made not only to

remove the inference referred to above but also to make available the
implications which would strengthen a prosecution under Section 35, and,

indeed, any prosecution arising out of a tax fraud.
Respectfully submitted,

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Mr. Bernhard Knollenberg's
memorandum of recommendations

Yale University

Library (Librarian)

New Haven, Conn.

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November 8, 1939.

POSSIBLE CRIMINAL LIABILITY OF JOSEPH M. SCHENCK. DARRYL F. ZANUCK.
WILLIAM GOETZ. WILLIAM B. DOVER AND HARRY KADIS

Throughout the day of November 2, 1939, Messrs. Greenbaum,

Knollenberg, and Messrs. Foley, Wenchel, Irey, Oftedal and Kades,

conferred concerning the possible criminal liability of any, or all,
of Measrs. Schenck, Goets, Zanuck, Dover and Kadis, with respect to
the following questions:
1.

Bribery of Revenue Agent Kadis in November, 1936.

2.

Failure of Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck to report
taxable profit on exchange of Twentieth Century Pictures

Corporation (hereinafter called "Century") stock for
Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation (hereinafter

called "Fox") stock in 1935.

3. Failure of Zanuck to report as taxable income the
value of certain Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation
stock received by him in 1935.

4. Making a false statement in affidavits filed in
1938 by Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck in a matter within the

jurisdiction of the Treasury Department, namely the investiga-

tion of their income tax liability for 1935.
These points will be discussed in the order named.

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1.

Bribery of Revenue Agent Kadia in November 1936.

Prior to August 22, 1935, Messrs. Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck owned

all of the stock of Century in the following amounts:
Preferred

Common

Schenck

35,000

40

Goetz

35,000

40

20*

Zanuck

In July, 1935 arrangements were made for a statutory merger
of Century with Fox, and on or about August 22, 1935 Schenck,

Goetz and Zanuck received for their Century stock the following
shares of Fox stock:
Preferred

Common

Schenck

55,000

214,000

Goetz

55,000

214,000

Zanuck

22,000

183,000

It is conceded that the value of the Fox preferred and common
stock received by each of the Century stockholders was far in excess

of the cost basis of his Century stock, and that, therefore, if the
exchange was not a tax exempt exchange, a large taxable profit was

realized. None of the Century stockholders reported any taxable

* - These were the record holdings. As brought out later, Schenck,
Goets and Zanuck filed affidavits with the Bureau of Internal Revenue
in 1938 stating that the beneficial ownership of the Century common
stock in August, 1935 was 35-35-30 shares respectively.

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profit on the exchange in their income tax returns for 1935 on the
theory that the exchange was a tax exempt exchange under section 112(b)(3)

of the Revenue Act of 1934 which was in force in 1935.

In 1936, Kadis, a Revenue Agent attached to the Upper District of
New York, audited the 1935 income tax returns of Century and Fox, which
were, I think, New York corporations, and, in some way not yet

ascertained*, was assigned the duty of auditing the return of Schenck
who filed his 1935 return in the Upper District of New York, and also
the returns of Goetz and Zanuck who filed their returns in the Los Angeles
District.
On December 1, 1936 Kadis submitted his report on his audit of

each of the individual taxpayers, in which he saids
"On August 22, 1935 the taxpayer exchanged all of his stock
in the Twentieth Century Pictures, Inc., which name was

changed to the S. G. Z. Corporation, for stock in the

Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation in pursuance to a
plan of reorganization which the Bureau held to be nontaxable. *** .

Mr. Kadis made no mention of the extraordinary fact, which his investigation must have disclosed, that Zanuck had received a considerably

larger proportion of the total Fox stock issued to the Century stockholders
than was representative of his proportionate stock holding in Century.

* - A complete story should be obtained as to how Kadis happened to
have assigned to him the audit of each of these returns, including
the Fox and Century returns.

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It is believed that Kadis made no mention of this fact because he had
been bribed by Dover to make a favorable report on or about November

11, 1936, when Kadis is known to have been alone with Dover in the latter's

room at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City. Dover is Zanuck's business
manager and attends to his financial affairs.
There is no direct evidence whatsoever that Dover gave Kadis any

money or property in November, 1936, or at any other time. There are
various indications that Schenck, Goetz, and Zanuck, through Fox, or Dover

or both, bribed Kadis in 1937 and 1938, but such bribery probably took
place in California rather than in New York. The immediate question
is whether the Department of Justice should be asked to have the United
States District Attorney in New York secure an indictment of Dover and Kadis
(and possibly Zanuck, Schenck and Goetz on the supposition that Dover

was acting as their agent) on the ground that Dover paid, and Kadis
received a bribe at the Waldorf-Astoria on or about November 11, 1936.

There is a three year statute of limitations on the crime of bribery so
that unless the indictment is secured before November 11, 1939, it would

be impossible to indict Dover or Kadis even though it is definitely
ascertained after November 11, 1939, that Dover bribed Kadis in the course

of Kadis' visit to Dover at the Waldorf-Astoria.
It seems to me beyond the possibility of doubt that the Treasury
Department does not have sufficient evidence of bribery in November,
1936 to request an indictment on that ground.

I understand that all at the conference agreed with this view.

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Failure to report taxable profit on exchange of Century

2.

stock for Fox stock in 1935.
Section 112(b)(3) of the Revenue Act of 1934 provides:

"Stock for stock on reorganization . - No gain or
loss shall be recognized if stock or securities in a
corporation a party to a reorganization are, in pursuance
of the plan of reorganization, exchanged solely for stock
or securities in such corporation or in another corporation a party to the reorganization."
Mesars. Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck maintain that the exchange of

their Century stock for Fox stock falls squarely within the exemption

provided for by Section 112(b) (3). They contend that there is
nothing in sub-section (3) (unlike sub-section (5)) which makes the
exemption conditional on the stockholders receiving stock of the new

corporation in proportion to their holdings in the old.
It appears to me that this position is well taken, and that no
taxable profit was realized by Messrs. Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck on

their exchange of Century for Fox stock.

If no taxable profit was realized, it is obvious that there was
no criminal offense in having failed to report in their returns for
1935 that the Fox stock had been received.
3.

Failure of Zanuck to report as taxable income the value of

certain of the Fox stock received by him in 1935.
It has been noted that Zanuck received Fox stock in excess of the

number of shares reflecting his proportionate interest in Century.

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The Treasury Department maintains that the value of these excess shares

is taxable on the ground that they were received not in exchange for
Zanuck's Century stock but as compensation for services or in exchange
for property.

I think that there is ground for the view that the excess Fox stock
was received by Zanuck as additional compensation for the services to be
rendered by him to Fox under the employment contract entered into with

Fox. Furthermore, if the affidavit referred to under the next heading
was true, there is strong ground for the view that the excess Fox stock

was given to Zanuck in liquidation of an enforceable claim for additional
Century stock which he had against Schenck and Goetz, in which event the
excess Fox stock was received by Zanuck not in exchange for his Century stock,

but for property, i. e., his claim against Schenck and Goets.
I think that a deficiency should be asserted against Zanuck for 1935

based on the value of this excess Fox stock. The value of this stock
doubtless exceeded 25 per centum of the amount of gross income as stated

in Zanuck's 1935 return, and therefore an additional tax can be assessed,

or a ninety day letter sent out, any time up to March 25, 1941 - even
though no fraud charge can be maintained.

Turning to the question of prosecution of Zanuck, I think there is
not sufficient ground for criminal proceedings based on the view that

he filed a false and fraudulent return for 1935. I am even inclined to
think that there is not sufficient ground for asserting civil fraud.

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The whole question of whether stock received by an employee was to

be regarded as taxable income at the time received or at the time sold

was still in the field of doubt in March 1936, and it is entirely conceivable that Zanuck was not acting in bad faith in having failed to
return any taxable income on account of the receipt of the excess Fox
stock.

It is conceivable that Zanuck may contend that the alleged right
to receive the additional 10 per cent of Century stock constituted
additional income at the time that Schenck and Goetz promised him the

additional 10 per cent. If the promise was made in 1934, the statute
would still be open (for reasons explained above in connection with 1935)

without reference to the question of fraud. If the alleged promise
was given before 1934, additional taxes could be collected only if it
is possible to establish that Zanuck was fraudulent in failing to report
income on account of the receipt of the promise for additional stock,
in the year in which the promise was given.

4. Making a false statement in affidavits filed in 1938.
On December 23, 1938, Schenck, Goetz and Zanuck caused to be delivered

to the Treasury Department's investigating agents at Los Angeles affidavits
stating that:
"The common and preferred stock of the reorganized company

which they received upon the exchange of their common stock

of the old Twentieth Century Pictures, Inc., was on the exact
pro rata basis of their actual ownership of common stock of
said old Twentieth Century Pictures, Inc., to wit, 35% to

Schenck, 35% to Goetz and 30% to Zanuck."

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It is believed that the statement in the affidavit and the other
similar statements were untrue and that Zanuck in fact had only a 20

per cent in the Century common stock. The principal ground for this
view is that on May 5, 1935, Zanuck telegraphed Louis B. Mayer:
"Our present division of 40-40-20 is okay now because
Joe furnished releasing organization and Billy furnished

finance and I produced pictures. But now that is all

over and it seems only fair that in the new deal we
should all share equally as certainly my job and new

responsibility entitles me to at least get what they
get."

No dividends were paid on the common stock of Century, so that

this important indication of stock ownership is not available.
Mr. Wenchel suggests that the action of Messrs. Schenck, Goetz and

Zanuck in misrepresenting the facts concerning the stockholdings in

Century was in itself a crime under Section 35 of the Criminal Code,
as amended (U. S. C. Title 18, Sec. 88), which provides that:

"Whoever shall *** make *** any *** affidavit ***
knowing the same to contain any fraudulent or fictitious
statement *** in any matter within the jurisdiction
of any department *** of the United States *** shall be

fined not more than $10,000, or imprisoned not more than
10 years, or both."
The context of the language quoted might lend some support to the

contention that Section 35 applies only to the making of claims against
the United States, but offhand, I agree with Mr. Wenchel that Section 35

is applicable to affidavits filed with the Treasury Department in the

course of an investigation by the Department of tax liability. If
so, the fact that no tax liability was avoided because none actually
exists does not, in my opinion, render the statute inapplicable, and

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this view is sustained by the decision of the United States Circuit
Court of Appeals in the Second Circuit in United States V. Mellon, et al.,
96 F. (2d) 462 (1938), cert. denied 304 U. S. 586.
Other Points Not Fully Discussed.
There is considerable evidence that one or all of Schenck, Goets
and Zanuck were instrumental through Fox or Dover or directly in

bribing Mr. Kadis in 1937 and 1938. It seems to me highly advisable
that further evidence be sought on this point with a view to prosecution,
probably in California.

There is strong evidence in support of the view that Schenck filed
fraudulent income tax returns for 1935, 1936 and 1937 (wholly apart from
the Fox stock matter).

We did not go into the details of these additional points and I
shall, therefore, not discuss them at this time beyond stating that the
case against Schenck for additional taxes, civil fraud and probably

criminal liability - particularly for the year 1935 in connection with
a loss claimed on an apparently fictitious sale of stock -- seems to be
strong.

Although I would wish to give the matter further consideration
before making a final recommendation my present view is that the case
against Schenck for 1935 on account of items other than the Fox stock

is so strong that the case ought to be presented to the Grand Jury in
New York, where Schenck's income tax return for 1935 was filed.

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There is, however, no occasion to make an immediate decision on

this point since the statute will not run for several years. In
the course of the Grand Jury investigation on the 1935 return I
believe that a great deal of other important matter may well be
brought out, including evidence to support our belief that Kadis has
been bribed by Schenck, et al.

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To:

The Files

From:

Mr. Hanes

for

November 9, 1939

Conference between the President, the Secretary of the Treasury and the
Under Secretary of the Treasury at 11:30 A. M. today
The President was in a splendid mood when we entered. The Secretary
told him that we had come mainly to discuss the budget and tax problems,
and said that he had asked the Under Secretary to come in order to make
a complete report and to post the President on what had happened since
their last meeting on tax questions in June. The Under Secretary made
the following report to the President on the chronological order of event s
since that time:

1. Bob Doughton and Jere Cooper had asked the Under Secretary to
meet them in Doughton's office at 8:30 on November 4th. They had a long
conversation about the program for continuing the studies on the tax

structure and Mr. Hanes outlined his position to them as follows:

2. The House of Representatives passed a resolution last summer
authorizing the Ways and Means Committee to make a thorough study of the
administrative and legislative features of the Revenue Law.
3. The Ways and Means Committee directed its subcommittee to comply
with that resolution.

4. As a result, Chairman Jere Cooper in the last two weeks of the
last Congress conducted a series of meetings with the staff of the Treasury
and the staff of the Joint Committee of the Ways and Means and of the
Senate Finance.

5. As a result of those meetings the subcommittee instructed the
Joint Committee staff to work with the staff of the Treasury in the study
and preparation of data upon some 75 specific items of the Revenue Law.

6. The Under Secretary of the Treasury was authorised to conduct
on behalf of the subcommittee of the Ways and Means Committee informal
hearings here in Washington or elsewhere with taxpayers and the public

generally, with a view of getting from all groups interested as much
information as possible on the practical approach of the tax law and its
effect upon the economy in general.

-27. Following these instructions the Under Secretary of the Treasury
sent a letter to approximately 1500 people, representing labor, agriculture, industry, the professions, and as well, the general public.
8. The response to this appeal for assistance was instantaneous
and the good will developed thereby has become increasingly apparent.
More than 283 individuals have appeared in person at a series of informal
hearings conducted in the Treasury and we have collected a mass of very
valuable data which I hope will form the nucleus for a permanent record

for the future. I might add that the Treasury staff has done a magnificent job in their sympathetic approach to the individuals who have visited
the Treasury during the past 60 days. It has been a tedious task and I
believe has definitely created the impression throughout the entire
country that the Treasury is trying to do a sincere and earnest job.

9. I told Messrs. Doughton and Cooper that in my opinion the
worse thing that could possibly happen from our viewpoint was for the
subcommittee to pass over this cooperative effort lightly as it would

mean that the Treasury would never be taken seriously again by those

who have given 80 willingly of their time.

10. This brings me to a concrete recommendation that the subcommittee
meet next week in accordance with their schedule and that the Joint Committee staff and the Treasury staff submit to them such data as has been

compiled. The Treasury is not in a position nor is it our desire at this

time to make specific recommendations for change in the tax structure.
We are, however, prepared to lay before the Joint Committee a completely
impartial study of all the items assigned to us by them.
11. I told Messrs. Doughton and Cooper, when asked for my personal

opinion, I was not at all sure that it would be desirable to open up

the tax question at this time, that I felt definitely that this was a

question to be weighed very carefully between the leaders in both Houses,
together with the Secretary of the Treasury and the President of the

United States. However, at this time it is not necessary to cross that
bridge, since the study which they have been authorized to make may

continue for an indefinite period.

12. At no time during this conference nor during any other conference

has the Treasury ever made reference to specific recommendations for
changes of any kind. We have not been authorized to do so and shall
not do so until we have been authorized or instructed by the Secretary
of the Treasury on each and every step.

The Under Secretary was careful to point out to the President that
the study now being conducted by the Treasury is on an unbiased and impartial plane, and that no conclusions have been drawn from these studies

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for the benefit of the subcommittee of the Ways and Means Committee.
The President said that he was pleased with the report and that he

had been giving a lot of thought to the subject of deficits which he
was going to try to work down to a figure of $2,800 million. The
President stated that at the present time the Director of the Budget had
informed him that the deficit figure for 1941 rested at $3,200 million
and that he had instructed the Director to reduce that figure to a
maximum of $2,800 million. We reported to the President preliminary
revised estimates from the Treasury on Internal Revenue increased from

$5.500 million to $6,300 million. These figures should serve to reduce

the deficit still further.

The President then outlined his thinking for the moment to be as
follows: that he would go before the country on the radio and state
that by hard work we have reduced the deficit from approximately
$4 billion to $2,800 million, that estimated revenue is increasing and
appropriations for things like post offices, rivers and harbors, etc.,
were being eliminated. However, it would be necessary to spend more
money immediately for national defense and any increased expenditures

for national defense should be paid for out of increased taxes.

The President further said that he was thinking in terms of

working out a program, which could not be opposed by Conservatives,
Liberals, and Radicals, that would embrace some plan similar to the

La Follette program of broadening the base. He said that he was heartily
in favor of the Treasury's psychological approach to the tax problems,
that he thought it had a good effect on the minde of business men,
but at the same time concurrently with the elimination of inequities
in the present tax bill, he was anxious that we not overlook any loopholes that might exist in the present structure. He seemed to feel
rather strongly that there were loopholes in the present law which
should be closed up. We told him that the Treasury would make a complete
study of this phase.

The President said that when the Secretary returns from Arizona
he would want to sit down with us for some length of time to discuss this

whole problem and try to arrive at a definite policy. He further said
that he would want to discuss this matter thoroughly with the leaders of
both Houses of Congress and that he was not willing at this time to arrive

at any conclusion or make any statement as to policy.

After finishing the discussion on the tax problems, the Secretary
of the Treasury handed to the President a memorandum which he had drawn
up recommending a concrete method of procedure between this Government

and foreign governments in the matter of purchases. The President said,
"That's fine."

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the Farm Credit Administration and the President said he would read.
The last item taken up with the President was the recommendation

by the Secretary that we be instructed to negotiate with airplane

motor manufacturers a satisfactory arrangement on depreciation and
obsolescence in order to induce them to increase their production by
6000 motors per year. This, because of the fact that we are equipped
to make 6000 more airplanes than the engine manufacturers are able to
supply motors therefor. The President signed the memorandum of
instructions to the Secretary to proceed in accordance with his recommenda-

tion, copy of these instructions is attached hereto SLL S. 4+)

Twit.

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON

November 9, 1939

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY:

One of the obstacles to the proper equipment of our country

for national defense is the disparity between the rate of production of airplane motors And that of the airplanes themselves.
This must be synchronized as soon as possible.

You are hereby directed to work out a policy of depreciation
allowance by which the abnormal investment in plant expansion that

will be required of the airplane motors manufacturers will be
absorbed over the life of the contracts or during the emergency
period.

You are further directed to consult with the appropriate
committees of the Congress for the purpose of devising a permanent

program whereby the facilities thus created will become 8 permanent

part of the national defense.

ANK

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AMERICAN CONSULATE

No. 11

Hanoi, Indochina, November 9. 1939
AIR MAIL

SUBJECT:atContemplated
Haiphong. Measures to Remove Congestion of Freight

THE HONORABLE

THE SECRETARY OF STATE,
WASHINGTON.
SIR:

I have the honor to refer to my despatch no. 5 of October 13, 1939.
and to other despatches and telegrams, in which reference is made to the
congestion of cargo at Haiphong and to the various plans of the agencies

engaged in transportation of freight to China for the clearing up of
this congestion. In this latter connection the following information may

be of some interest to the Department.

During a conversation with Mr. Chen Tea Chen, of the Southwest
Transportation Company, and Mr. Shao, Manager of the Bank of China at

Hanoi, allusion was made to the fact that recent arrivals at Haiphong and
other ports of Indochina of freight destined for China apparently approximately balance the amount of freight being transitted to China, thus militating against the clearing up of the congestion of cargo at Haiphong.
Mr. Shao agreed that such was the case but pointed out that during the
last month, October, an exceptional amount of freight had arrived and that
the Indochina-Tunnan Railway had carried only a fraction of its normal

capacity of freight, due to landslides and other traffic interruptions in

Yunnan. Inter alia it is understood that no new cargo was accepted by that
railway between September 29 and November 1.

Mr. Chen then outlined the various measures in operation or contemplated
which are aimed to speed up transportation and to relieve the congestion at
Haiphong. He remarked that he proposed, as a further measure, to curtail
freight arrivals during December and January, adding, however, that the
curtailment would not apply to petroleum products.
As petroleum products comprise a large percentage of arrivals at
Haiphong and at Saigon, I do not see how this plan can accomplish a great
deal. Nor do I see how Mr. Chen can bring about this curtailment without
the cooperation of foreign shippers and/or the French authorities. The

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to see Haiphong cleared of the accumulation of freight. Nevertheless,

the plan must be accepted with a certain amount of watchful scepticism,
perhaps as wishful thinking on the part of the Chinese who are faced
with the tremendous task of moving the freight now at Haiphong, a matter
of some 6 to 8 months.
Respectfully yours,

CHARLES S. REED II,
American Consul.

Original and 2 copies to the Department
Copy to Embassy, Chungking; Consulate General, Hongkong
Copy to Embassy, Peiping: Consulate, Saigon

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ADDRESS AT THE
25th ANNIVERSARY OF THE OPENING
OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ST. LOUIS
NOVEMBER 9, 1939

BY

MARRINER S. ECCLES
CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

FOR RELEASE IN MORNING PAPERS OF

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 1939

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I am glad that I could be here this evening to join with you in
observing the 25th anniversary of the establishment of the Federal Reserve
Bank of St. Louis. The quarter of a century that has passed has put the
Federal Reserve System to the test of war and of peace, of the greatest boom

and the worst depression in our history. Throughout this period the System
has rendered an essential public service. Those who have played a part in
making this public contribution have reason to look back over the years with
8 senso of pride in what has been achieved, notwithstanding the limitations
in our banking laws and those inherent in the powers of monetary authorities
to achieve by themselves that state of economic wolfare to which we all

aspire. We may sey in fairness, I think, that the record of the Federal Resurve System is a creditable one; its shortcomings, as I see them, have been

largely reflections of the times in which we live.
The Reserve System is no longer an experiment. It has justified

the expectations of its creators. It is an established institution that is
vital to the functioning of our economy. If it were done away with, other
machinery would have to be created to furnish the services and perform the
functions of the present System. Throughout its history, the Reserve System
has been fortunate in attracting to its service many men of outstanding

ability and a desiro to be of public service. This applies not alone to the
officers and staffs of the twelve Federal Reserve banks and their branches
and to the Board in Washington, but to the mon who have served and have re-

garded it as an honor to serve on the directorates of the banks and branches
and as members of the Federal Advisory Council.

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Inevitably the System has often been a target for political attack
because it is a convenient scapegoat when the economic machine gets into

trouble. This is in large part because of the persistent, but erroneous, belief that we can produce and maintain prosperity simply by pulling a few
monetary and credit levers. The System has successfully withstood recurrent

waves of political assault, largely, I think, because of the high character
of the men who have been associated with it in all parts of the country,
and because informed opinion was aware of the limitations on its powers and
did not expect the impossible.

As the world has changod, as now conditions have arison. the Reserve System inevitably has faced now problems and has been obliged to develop now means and to ask for brocder powers in order to dool with changed

conditions. It has not remained static in 0 changing world and it cannot do
so and survive. I have found comfort in the reflection that those who resist
change so often not only become reconciled but approve once it has come about.

The effort to establish the Reserve System was stoutly opposed by influential
financial and business groups that later became its defenders. Senator Glass

recounts in his book, "An Adventure in Constructive Finance", that: "The
fight for better banking methods and for an effective currency system was no
holiday fray; it was actually a savage contest, in which entrenched power and

privilege resisted at every point of attack." The battle for better banking
methods and & sounder credit and currency system goos on. It can never be
permanently won in this changing world. But enlightened men can lead the
way to continuous improvement.

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This Bank in St. Louis, as a part of the System, came into being
on the eve of the outbreak of war in Europe in 1914. It is a somber fact
that this 25th anniversary is being observed as another European War casts
its shadows across the Atlantic. Those who constructed the Federal Reserve
System out of long experience and study could not foresee the changes that
were to be so quickly wrought after 1914. They were men whose experience had

boon with the operations of a gold standard world and with the risc of industrialism in the era of great expansion in this country.
While the Reserve System was conceived as a mechanism designed

primarily for a peaceful, gold standard world, it proved capable of rapid
adaptation to a world suddenly transformed from peece to war, and from C
gold basis to a managed currency basis. The System discharged with great

credit the heavy responsibilitios that were thrown upon it, particularly in
councetion with financing our own participation in that struggle. But the
System has never had an opportunity to operate in the kind of universe for

which it was originally created. It is true that during the Twenties the
leading nations, ourselves included, undertook to reestablish the economic
premises and practices of pre-war conditions, without appreciating that the
conditions had been radically altered. We had emorged as a creditor nation,
but we continued to behave like a debtor nation. The gold standard was re-

stored in name; it was in office but not in power, and it was not and could
not be the pre-war standard. As we discovered too late in the Twenties, it
could neither save us from nor roscuo us once we wore plunged into economic
disester.

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It appears to most of us now that since the armistice of 1918
we have had what is more & truce than a peace. We cannot foresee now, any

more than we could at the outbreak of war in 1914, what the future will

bring forth, but all of us are necessarily concerned with the effects of
foreign war upon our domestic economy. We can see the broad line of defense
that we must take to minimize the disruptive consequences to our own people.

Wo are already experiencing the initial impact of war conditions
abroad. In the forward movement in economic activity that has taken place
recently, there is much that represents anticipatory buying and the accumulation of inventories without a corresponding rapid increase in consumption
or purchasing power. Fortunately, there appears to be a more widespread

recognition that as C mattor of solf-interest, restraint should be imposed
by business and labor leadership to prevent a recurrence of the price distortions and inventory boom that lod to the shorp relapse beginning in the
middle of 1937.

To that end, business men appear more ready to cooperate in price
restraints and in spreading out production. Even though there may be a glut

of orders in some lines, including the steel industry, production and deliveries should be evened out over longer periods then has been the case

under past practice. There is also a more rational policy in regard to
liquidation of foreign holdings of American securities so that it may have
0 minimum of disturbing effects upon our markets and to the timing and
spacing of foreign domand with a view both to more orderly production and

the avoidance so far as possible of conflict betwoon foreign and domostic
needs for essential materials.

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All of this is to the good, but in the brief time I have this
evening, I want to call attention more particularly to some of the longer
range problems as I see them from the standpoint of the bankers and the
Federal Reserve System.

I doubt whether there are exact figures on the amount of cash resources that are available to belligerent governments for expenditure in the
United States. Such figures as I have seen are at best estimates. They

indicate that for the British Empire and France alone dollar balances in
this country amount to about $1-1/4 billions, and readily salable securities
have an estimated market value of about $1-1/2 billions. In addition, other
resources and investments which are not so readily marketable aggregate

another $1-1/2 billions. Beyond this, the British Empire and France have
gold resources of close to $6 billions and they have an annual gold pro-

duction of about three-quarters of a billion dollars.
No one, of course, can foresee how long the war will last or how
much of these resources would be used for purchases in our markets. We
should not delude ourselves, however, into supposing that whatever the
volume of such expenditure may be in our markets, it would be just so much

velvet for us. The fact is that our favorable trade balance during the
last few years has been sustained through our willingness to accept large

quantities of foreign gold and silver at high prices in exchange for our
goods and services. We have been unwilling to exchange goods for goods.

Fortunately, we have not extended foreign credits, as we did throughout
the Twenties, which, while they sustained our foreign trade, wore largely

uncollectible. Looking to the future, my personal view--speaking unofficially--

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is that our country would be far better off if, so far as possible, foreign
purchases were to be paid for out of the sale of their goods in this country
and out of the proceeds of the liquidation in this country of American
securities held by foreigners rather than through further acquisitions of
foreign gold and silver for which we have no present or prospective use,
because they would only increase the present unprecedented volume of unused

excess reserves and deposits of the banking system. Even the present volume

of excess reservos, if used as a basis for credit expansion, would create a
dangorous inflationary situation entirely beyond the present powers of the
Federal Reserve to control. We do not nood a further increase of our supply
of bank deposits or currency. What we do need is a more effective use or
turnover of our existing money supply.
This has an immediate bearing upon our banking and economic

problems generally, and upon the question of interest ratos which are of
so much concern to bankers and invostors. But I find that not many of my
banker friends have analyzed the reasons why interest ratos have been and

are likely to continue to be at unprecedented low levels. Some, I have discovered, had a vague, but mistaken, notion that the Federal Reserve System

was responsible and that I, in particular, am culpable because I have ad- vocated since the depths of the depression what, for want of a better name,
has been labeled as an easy money policy.

The facts of the case, however, are clear on the record. We have
today more than $5-1/2 billions of excess reserves among member banks. This

is 5 figure never before approached and the prospects are that it will con-

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tinue to grow. A credit expansion of fully $30 to $40 billions could, in
theory at least, be built upon this enormous base. Now, you cannot have
such vast stocks of potentially loanable funds pressing upon the market, and
such 8 volume of investment funds as has been and still is accumulating without having interest rates at extremely low levels.

I want to emphasize the fact that the rise in excess reserves in
the past few years has resulted almost entirely from the vast inflow of gold
and to a lessor degree from silver purchases. A strenuous, though unsuccess-

ful, effort was made in the Banking Act of 1935 to obtain for the Federal
Reserve System authority to absorb excess reserves. Under the limited powers
actually granted, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reservo System ab-

sorbed approximately $2-1/2 billions of excess reserves. In other words,

the present volume of excess reserves, large.as it is, is $2-1/2 billions
less than it would have been if the Reserve Board had not increased reserve

requirements by using most of the authority granted in the Banking Act of 1935.

This action was not taken for the purpose of constricting credit
or reversing the policy of monetary ease pursued by the System. It was

taken for the purpose of putting the System in the position it had traditionally
occupied and the position still occupied by central banking organizations in
other loading countries, where, through open-market operations and discount

policy, it could ease credit conditions if the situation required or adopt a
reverse policy if necessary to restrain inflationary credit expansion through
the banks. Unfortunately, this position could not be maintained because the
great volume of gold and silver that was subsequently permitted to flow into
the excess reserves again lifted them to levels beyond reach of the System's
control.

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I do not wish to be understood as favoring high interest rates
et the stage of recovery so far reached or while we have a large volume of
unemployment and unused resources. I favor relatively low interest rates
as C continued encouragement to capital expenditures, including housing,
and as B means of keeping down costs and stimulating consumption. But I

sup convinced that it is essential for the monetary authorities to be in a

position to influence the availability and cost of credit in order to discharge their proper responsibilities. What purpose do they serve if they

are powerless in their particular field of responsibility?
At the presont time investment funds are accumulating in the
hands of individual and corporate savers much faster than outlets develop
for the profitable employment of these savings in new investment. The re-

suit is an intensified competition for the existing supply of investments -C supply so inadequate relative to the volume of funds seeking investment

that, notwithstanding the great increase in the public debt during the past
decade, the demand greatly exceeds the supply.

Foreign war will not correct this situation, but is likely to
make it worse. The remedy must be found at home. It would be most un-

fortunato if the anticipation of profits from a so-called war boom word to
obscure this and other unbalanced relationships in the domestic picture.
There has been recently some increase in the domand for bank
loans for commercial purposes. This has given earnings to banks and some-

what lessened their need to invest in long-term governments. However, it
is not reasonable to suppose that the demand from business and industry for

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increased bank credit accommodation will be sufficient to absorb any sub-

stantial amount of excess reserves. For one thing, most of the larger and
many of the smaller corporations of the country have accumulated large cash
reserves which, in some cases, have been invested in Government obligations

since they could not be profitably used for increased production and plant
expansion. In many industrial lines which have been operating for below
capacity a great increase in production could take place without necessitating

going to the capital markets or to the banks for more funds for plant or for
operating purposes. Production can be stepped up greatly because of the
rapid technological advances which require less plant expansion and less mon
power then was needed under old methods.

For another thing, under the terms of the neutrality legislation
advocated even by those who opposed the sale of arms, it is proposed that
only cash payments shall be made for such products as are purchased by

bolligerent buyers. Extension of credit is specifically barred. There is
thus no present prospoct of outlot for investment funds in foreign loans.
Accordingly, I am unable to see that through the prospective operations of

business and industry there will be a sufficient absorption of investment
funds or of excess reserves to alter materially the present disproportionately
large volume of such funds relativo to the outlets for them. Therefore, I
would not expect interest rates to rise and maintain levels that are higher
than has been the average over the period in which we have had the combined

effect of heavy excess reserves and slack domand for credit and for funds for
new investment. We have witnessed, since the outbreak of war abroad,

4 readjustment from the low levels that prevuiled earlier in the year, but
the trend is again in the opposite direction.

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All indications point to the continued piling up of excess reserves, and the longer war is continued and foreign governments obtain

dollar exchange through the process of sending us gold, the greator the

exce38 will become. If the effects of this wore meroly to add to bank
deposits, which for a considerable period now have been greater than ever

before in our history, it would be serious enough, but gold and silver
acquisitions also add to excess reserves which are a basis for a multiple
expansion of bank credit and bank deposits.

The other principal factor in the growth of bank deposits has
been the Government's borrowing from the commercial banks. To the extent

that this process restored our money supply after it had shrunk by about

one-third as a result of the deflation after 1929 it was, to my mind, de- sirable and, in fact, essential for recovery.

We may as well face the facts of this question of interest rates
and idle deposits frankly. I want to repeat that I do not favor rostrictive money conditions and high interest ratos while WO still have
millions of idle men and unused resources. Tightening of money rates is
an appropriate wospon against unsound expansion of bank credit that threatons

an inflation. It is wholly inappropriate at the presont stage of recovery or
at any time as a remody for unsound developments of non-monetary origin.

While bankers and invostors generally want higher rates, it should
be evident that we cannot go on indefinitely having gold and silver purchases
piling up both excess reserves and bank deposits and expect interest rates to

rice. The effects of such additions to the money supply are bound to be just

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the opposite--the more so when at the same time billions of individual and

corporate savings are piling up annually, although outlets for the profitable
employment of these savings in new investment, or in foreign loans, are much
less than was the case during the Twenties.

Are we willing to deal with the factors that are adding to the already unprecedented accumulations of excess reserves and bank deposits, and

if we are not willing to deal with these factors, are we willing to approach
the problem from the other side and take steps adequate to put these funds

to more productive, profitable use? My own experience, in being unable in
the Banking Act of 1935 to obtain adequnte means of dealing with the excess
reserve problem, and three years ago whon I ventured to point out the

effects of continued capital acquisitions from foreign sources, does not
encourage me to think that as a country we are yet prepared to deal with
the causes or effects of this growth in excess reserved and bank deposits.

Turning to the question of putting the supply to greater use, we

find a field of the greatest confusion and conflict of opinion. I shall undertake here only to outline again what I believe to be the sound way of getting
a wider, more profitable use of the accumulations of idle funds that are
weighing down the interest rate structure and proventing the balancing of the
Federal budget.

In my judgment, the time is here, if it is not overdue, to take
certain steps that will increase domestic consumption, diminish the pressure of
idle funds on the investment markets, and begin to close the gap between Govern-

ment income and outgo. My longer objective would be to sustain existing investMent and pave the way for as much now investment as can be profitably under-

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all other fiduciary institutions--looking beyond them, it is to the interest
of all those whose savings are at stake.
No are hearing today proposals that the Government should reduce

some 01 the present expenditures, particularly for agricultural benefits and
for work relief, in order that funds for an expanded armament program may be

provided without an increased deficit or an increase in taxes. In my opinion,
it would be unfair, and unsound economically, to pass increased armement costs

00 to those of the low income groups who would profit the least out of foreign
or domestic expenditures for armsment, who are the least able to bear the
costs and whose increased purchasing power is essential to our economic welfare.

Instead, in my opinion, we should follow the unpopular, but
necessary, course of imposing additional taxation in order to meet the added
costs of our armoment program and to reduce the deficit, without sacrificing
the low income groups whose sustained and increasing purchasing power is

needed to sustain and increase production. Accordingly, additional taxation
should be levied, not alone upon war profits, but upon those income groups
now relatively undertaxed among whom the greatest proportion of savings that

are unable to find profitable outlet today are now accumulating. At the
some time, I favor increasing domestic purchasing power by decreasing consumption taxes.

It is beyond dispute that the great mcjority of our people at the
bottom of the income scale would consume far more if they had the purchasing
power. One way to incrense their purchasing power is by lowering consumption

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over the past few years. We need to understand more clearly just where
idle funds accumulate, where our tax burdens fall, and how they may be
better distributed with a view to increasing domestic consumption and hence
increasing a home market for American business and industry, so that they

will not have to rely upon the precerious circumstance of foreign wars and
armanent programs in order to utilize our resources and man power and thus
to make profits.

I have been much interested in studies of the National Resources
Committee which show that in 1935-1936, 59 per cent of our families had in-

comes of $1,250 or loss. They had no savings, but incurred deficits of
$1-1/2 billions which were partly made up by hundreds of millions of dollars

of contributions from other private groups and public sources. It is on
this majority group of our people, comprising nearly 60 per cent of our
population, that consumption taxes, including social security assessments

on those fortunate enough to have jobs in private industry, bear too hoavily
and have been substantially increased in recent years.

The next higher income group, that is, those families with incomes
of from $1,250 to $5,000 a year and comprising 38 per cent of our population,
was able to save $2.8 billions. The next higher income group with incomes

of from $5,000 up, but representing less than 3 per cent of our families,
saved $4.8 billions.

Our income tax rates applying to these groups with incomes of from
$5,000 to $50,000 are much lower than the rates, even before the war, in
England, France and most other countries. Moreover, our income tax structure

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spreading it out. The time has arrived, I think, when this should no longer
be delayed, when additional revenue should be derived from the intermediate

income groups that I have mentioned. The effect will be to offset continued
over-accumulation of idle funds, to add less to bank deposits through the
process of deficit financing, and to help close the gap between Government
receipts and expenditures.

As part of a national policy of encouraging consumption, I have,
over a long period, urged revision of our system of old-age and unemployment

insurance, which at the present time is increasing rather than diminishing
the volume of funds that must find investment outlets. If we are to accumulate reserves for old-age pensions, they should be built up in good times
when their collection through taxes will tend to moderate unsound boom
tendencics and will not have an adverse effect upon consumption. We have
made the mistake, in my judgment, of accumulating a vast reserve in times

of largo unemployment, taxing it not out of those best able to pay or those
whose savings are idle, but out of payrolls mainly of those who otherwise
doubtless would have kept the funds moving in the income stream. The more
we have taken out of consumption by this process et the time when we need

above all to increase consumption, the greater the need has been to un-

balance the budget still further in order to increase consumption. Other
countries have built up social security programs and have adjusted their
taxing and financing methods to the countries' economic needs by paying out

in social security benefits sums much larger than they currently take in
from contributors.

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as sell as sales taxes, excise taxes and tariffs, is at present much higher
than at any previous time. We should undertake a far-reaching revision of
our Federal and State tax structures so as to cut down these consumption
taxes and to increase taxes on funds which would otherwise remain idle.

Also as a part of the general program, I would favor applying taxes
that will have the effect of discouraging over-accumulation of so-called
rainy day reserves which are being set aside in excessively large amounts,

particularly by the larger corporations. These sums como out of the income
streez and unless put back into the stream through being paid out in dividonda to stockholders or spent for plant modernization or expansion are bound

to diminish consumption, then employment and finally production. It would be
proferable if these excessive accumulations were avoided in the first instance
ty reducing prices to consumers or by increasing the wages of the lower in-

COMC groupe of workers. If this is not done, then it is not logical to oppose
toxction that will keep these funds that are unused for plant or for dividend
purposes moving in the income stream. They cannot be taken out of the income
stream without reducing it and thus reducing employment and production.

I opposed at the time and would continue to oppose application of
corporate surplus taxos to the small businesses which do not constitute the

heart of this problem of idle funds. But we should also consider increasing
the normal income tax of corporations and revision of the inheritance tax,

particularly a reduction of the present exemptions, to help pay for an inSPORS armanent program.

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The broad effect of the tax policies I have outlined would be
not only to reduce the deficit and ultimately balance the budget as national
income reaches the levels we should and can have in this country, but to
sustain and increase purchasing power and reduce the pressures of funds

that cannot find adequate profitable outlets in new investment at this
stage in our national development. Such a tax program would do much to
keep otherwise stagnant funds moving in the income stream in a way that
will augment consumption and thus not only sustain existing investment but
open the way for now investment.

If WC are unwilling to deal with the underlying factors that make
for a continuing piling up of our money supply, now beyond the powers of

the Reserve System to control, we should at least deal with the problem of

idle funds and the stagnation in the turnover of existing deposits. In my
judgment, WC should deal with the problems of money supply as well as its

use, but, in any event, we cannot ignore both sides of the picture. The
banking and investment community cannot expect to do nothing about the

piling up of idlo funds on the one hand and, on the other hand, have the

interest rates and earnings which they so much desire. It is the old story-you can't have your cake and eat it too.

I have sought to indicate in a general way what I believe to be a
practical approach to some of these questions. I hope that none of us will
be deluded into imagining that the tragic accident of European War will in
the long run solve or even ameliorate our fundamental domestic problems.
Mar cannot cure, but may make worse, the unbalanced relationships between

teriff-protected industrial prices on the one side and, on the other, agri-

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cultural prices and incomes that are determined by foreign demand and
foreign markets. War cannot cure, but may make worse, the monetary and

credit problems arising from the continued swelling of bank deposits and

excess reserves which, in turn, are a vital factor in the level of
interest rates.

We cannot profit from disaster to other peoples. We can be alert,
however, to protect our economy to the extent of our abilities from the

dislocating effects of international chaos and destruction. We can, if we
have the perception and the courage, put our own house in better order and

keep it functioning so that it will produce and distribute a maximum of
goods and services, under our political and economic system, for the benefit
of all of our citizens.

November 9. 1939.
STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
To:

The President.

From: The Secretary of the Treasury.

The following paragraphs deal with three categories of business
relations between the United States and foreign countries:

(1) The Chancellor of the British Exchequer has informed the
Secretary of the Treasury that he readily accepts the latter's

proposal that a special account be opened with the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York, and agrees that the Secretary of the
Treasury personally and confidentially have access thereto.
This message was received through the British Embassy following conversations in which it was indicated that, as a matter
of administration policy, the Treasury would be pleased to see
the British Government's account for war purchases in the
United States carried with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,
by and in the name of the Bank of England, into which account
funds of the British Government would be deposited and from which
account official payments would be made. It was stipulated that
such account should be exclusively for the purchase of war

materials. The desirability was suggested of having a British
official in this country designated to draw checks against this

war materials account. The British Government has already made
a transitory arrangement with the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York whereby members of the British Purchasing Commission now

in this country are authorised to direct limited payments from
the regular account of the Bank of England with the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York. The final and definitive arrangements
The
for the special account should be consummated shortly.
French Government has approved such a plan in principle and is

perfecting the details for its own special account.

(2) The Chancellor of the Exchequer is sending to the
United States a London banker to assist the British Ambassador
in arranging details regarding the above mentioned account,

and also to act as the British Security Expert in discussing

with the Secretary of the Treasury and the Securities and Exchange Commission the question of the disposal of British owned

dollar securities on this market. This Government had informed
the British Government of its desire that the Treasury and the
Securities and Exchange Commission receive daily reports in suitable detail, and be kept informed of prospective plans, with

-2respect to the disposal of those dollar securities which the

British Government contemplates selling in the United States.
The British Government has stated that one of the Canadian
banks in New York will be appointed the British agent for the

actual liquidation of such securities. It is desired that

arrangements similar to those of the British Government be
made if and when France, Canada or other belligerent countries

may plan to sell their United States dollar securities,
(3) The following arrangement is suggested to govern the
contacts between the interested foreign governments and representatives of this Government with reference to the purchase of

war materials in the United Statest An informal committee will

be established to represent the American Government, consisting

of the following: (a) The Director of Procurement, Treasury

Departments (b) The Quartermatter General of the Army; (e) The
Paymenter General of the Navy. This committee will serve as
the exclusive limison with reference to precurement matters
between this Government and the interested foreign governments.
It will held sessions at least once weekly, and at such more
frequent intervals as may be necessary. At these sessions, it
will receive as accredited representative of the embassy of any
interested foreign government for the purpose of giving consideration to the requirements of such government for supplies,

equipment, and materials, in relation to: (a) availability of
the desired articles, (b) priorities, and (e) prices. The

committee will submit a complete report of its proceedings,
acts and recommendations, at least weekly, to the President
through Mr. McReynolds.

BMWR
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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 9, 1939.

TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM E. H. Foley, Jr.

For your information

I thought you would like to know that the Attorney General
has just decided the controversy between State and ourselves as

to the application of the Neutrality Act in our favor. Telegrams
are being prepared notifying all Collectors of this ruling.

F.N.Th.

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NOV 9 1939

My dear Mr. President:

You will recall that some months ago we discussed the

advisability of reestablishing the Farm Credit Administration
as an independent agency and consolidating in it all agricul-

tural credit activities of the Government. The objective
was to establish a single lending institution to which the

agricultural interests of the country could go for credit.
Gradually such an agency might be developed to a point where it

would be self-supporting. It is my recollection that you were
in sympathy with such a plan.

It has just come to my attention that Secretary Wallace
has asked Governor Hill for his resignation. I understand

that the Secretary's purpose in taking such action is to provide for closer integration of the functions of the Farm Credit
Administration with the other activities of the Department of

Agriculture. It appears to me that the action of Secretary
Wallace, if consummated, might very well render completely ineffectual the purposes underlying the proposed reorganization which
we discussed.

After our talk, I took the liberty of preparing a draft
of a reorganisation plan embodying my suggestions as to the

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scope and details of the proposed organisation. I an attaching,
for your consideration, a draft of a reorganisation plan and a

el
Faithfully yours,

suggested message of transmittal to Congress.

/

(Signed)

Secretary of the Treasury

The President
The White House

Attachments

Retyped 11/8/39

Draft of October 24, 1939.

REORGANIZATION PLAN NO.

122

Prepared by the President and transmitted to the Senate and
House of Representatives in Congress assembled, January 1940, pursuant to the provisions of the Reorganization Act
of 1939, approved April 3, 1939.
REORGANIZATION OF AGRICULTURAL CREDIT AGENCIES
AND FUNCTIONS

SEC. 1. Reestablishment of Farm Credit Administration as an
independent agency.-The Farm Credit Administration (including the Federal
Farm Mortgage Corporation and all other agencies, corporate or otherwise,

under the jurisdiction or supervision of the Farm Credit Administration,
to the extent that they are under such jurisdiction or supervision) and

all its functions, together with its personnel, records and property (including office equipment) is hereby transferred from the Department of
Agriculture and resstablished as the independent agency which it was prior

to July 1, 1939, the effective date of Reorganization Plan No. I issued
pursuant to the provisions of the Reorganization Act of 1939. All funetions of the Secretary of Agriculture or of any other officer or employee
or agency of the Department of Agriculture not transferred by this sec-

tion, which functions relate to the administration of the Farm Credit
Administration, its functions and activities, are hereby transferred
to, and shall be exercised by, the Governor of the Farm Credit Administretion.

SEC. 2. Transfer of Rural Electrification Administration to Farm
Credit Administration.-The Rural Electrification Administration and all
its functions, together with its personnel, records and property (including

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office equipment) is hereby transferred from the Department of Agriculture

to the Farm Credit Administration and shall be administered in that
Administration by the Administrator of the Rural Electrification Administration under the direction and supervision of the Governor of
the Farm Credit Administration.

sec. 3. Transfer of other agricultural credit functions to Form
Credit Administration.-(a) The following functions of the Secretary
of Agriculture and the Department of Agriculture are hereby transferred
to the Farm Credit Administration and shall be administered in that Ad-

ministration under the direction and supervision of the Governor of the
Farm Credit Administrations

1. All functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and the
Farmers' Home Corporation under Title I of the Bankhead-Jones

Farm Tonant Act (U.S.C., title 7, secs. 1001-1006).

2. All functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and
the Farmers' Home Corporation under Title II of the afore-

said Act (U.S.C., title 7, sees. 1007-1009).

3. All functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and the
Farmers' Home Corporation under sections 41 to 55 of Title IV

of the eforesaid Act (U.S.C., title 7, secs. 1015-1029), to
the extent that such functions may relate to, and be necessary

to the carrying out of, the functions under Titles I and II
of the aforesaid Act transferred above.

4. All functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and the
Farm Security Administration of the Department of Agriculture

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under section 3 of the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act

of 1939 to the extent that such functions relate to farm
debt adjustment service, the making of loans and the tension of credit to farmers, and to the servicing and
adjustment of loans made or credit extended to farmers
under said section OF prior law.

5. All functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and
the Farm Security Administration under the provisions of
the Act of August 7, 1939 (Public No. 307, 76th Congress).

(b) So such of the personnel, records and property (including
office equipment) of the Department of Agriculture, the Farners' Home
Corporation, and the Farm Security Administration of the Department of

Agriculture as the President may determine to be necessary to the off1-

cient performance of the functions transferred by this section shell be
transferred to the Farm Credit Administration.
SEC. 4. Transfer of funds.--(a) So such of the uncorpended balance

of appropriations, allocations, or other funds available (including those
available for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1941) for the administretive expense of any agencies OF functions transferred by sections 2 and

, of this Plan as the Director of the Bureau of the Budget shall daternine, shall be transferred to the Governor of the Form Credit Administre-

tion for such use; and the Director of the Bureau of the Budget shall
allocate to the Governor of the Form Credit Administration from such
funds such sums and in such proportions as be may find necessary for
the administrative expenses of the Governor in connection with the agencies

and functions transferred by sections 2 and , of this Plan. In determining

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the amount to be transferred, the Director of the Bureau of the Budget may

include an amount to provide for the liquidation of obligations insured
against such appropriations, allocations, OF other funds prior to the
transfer. The use of the unexpended balances of appropriations, allowe-

tions, or other funds transferred by this subsection shall be subject to
the provisions of section 4(d)(3) and section 9 of the Reorganization Act
of 1939.

(b) All unexpended balances of appropriations, allocations, or other
funds, other than those mentioned in subsection (a) of this section,svailable (including those available for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1941)

for the use of the Rural Electrification Administration shall be transferred
with such agency-and shall remain available to it for the exercise of its
functions.

(c) So such of the unexpended balances of appropriations, alloca-

tions, or other funds, other than those mentioned in subsection (a) of

this section, available (including those available for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1941) for the exercise of the functions transferred by section
3 of this Plan as the Director of the Bureau of the Budget shall determine,
shall be transferred with such functions and shell be available to the
Governor of the Turn Credit Administration for the exercise of such functions.

SEC. 5. Personnel.-Any of the personnel transferred by this Plan
which the Governor of the Farm Credit Administration shall find to be in
excess of the personnel necessary for the administration of the functions

transferred by this Plan shall be retransforred under existing law to other
positions in the Government, or separated from the service subject to the
provisions of section 10(a) of the Reorganization Act of 1939.

Was
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HARRAGE
FROM

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Transmitting
REORGANIZATION PLAN NO.

To the Congress of the United Stateg:

In my message to the Congress on April 25, 1939, transmitting
Reorganization Plan No. I, and again in my message of May 9, 1939,

transmitting Reorganization Plan No. II, I stated that it had not
been possible to complete my investigations then in progress with
respect to the organisation of abl agencies of the Federal Government, or to determine immediately what changes were necessary to ac-

complish the five major objectives of the Reorganisation Act of 1939.

I also pointed out in my message of April 25, 1939, that I
proposed to accomplish that task as speedily as possible in several
steps, and that out of the many groupings and regroupings proposed

in that message a few of the individual agencies could conceivably

be placed elsewhere. I added, however, that if in the future
experience showed that one or more of then should be regrouped it
would be wholly possible for the President and the Congress to make
the necessary changes.

As you will recall, Part IV of the plan to which I have
just referred was designed to accomplish a grouping of the may

-leading agencies of the Federal Government. The agencies established

for the purpose of stimulating and stabilising the financial, conmercial, and industrial enterprises of the Nation were grouped in
the Federal Loan Agency, under the Federal Loan Administr tor, whose

duty it is to supervise, administer and be responsible for the coordination of the functions and activities of those agencies, all
of which had previously operated independantly.

The agencies which had been established from time to time for

the purpose of providing loans directly or indirectly for the stimulation and stabilisation of agriculture were grouped with other agricultural activities of the Government in the Department of Agriculture.
On May 9, 1939, I transmitted to the Congress the Second Plan
on Government Reorganization, which contained a provision transferring

to the Department of Agriculture the Rural Electrification Administretion, which was engaged in certain lending activities in rural areas
throughout the United States.

Shortly before the First and Second Reorganization Plans
because effective I authorised the issuence of a statement by the

Secretary of Agriculture, in which he said that on and after the offective date of Reorganization Plan No. I the Form Credit Administration, including the Federal Farm Mortgage Corporation, would not be-

come on integral part of the Department of Agriculture, and that the

responsibility for carrying out the many Federal Statutes, which
formed the basis for the extension of several types of farm credit,

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-3would remain with the Governor of the Form Credit Administration.
He stated also that the Governor would report to the Secretary of

Agriculture rather than to the President, and with that exception
the Farm Credit Administration would continue to operate as on
autonomous agency as theretofore. The Secretary made the further

statement, with which I concurred, that the Farm Credit Administration,

supervising as it does many different types of organisations, was not
adapted to complete identification with the Department of Agriculture,
and should continue its present method of operation, with the Secre-

tary of Agriculture exercising & coordinating supervision in only
the broadest and most general way.

Our recognition of the differences in responsibility of the
Secretary and the status of the agencies concerned we dictated by

several considerations. While the supervision of credit facilities

in the form field is closely related to the other agricultural land
use activities of the Federal Government, the supervisory authority

over therefacilities must be coordinated with the work of the
Treasury Department, and has on important relation to the functions

of the Federal Loan Agency. Furthermore, not all of the functions
of the institutions and corporations, some 8,000 in number, under the

supervision of the Fare Credit Administration, are exclusively
governmental in character. The Administration exercises over then
type of supervision unlike the usual Federal supervision, where
the organizations and controls are wholly governmental.

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-4Since the First Reorganization Plan became effective certain

loyal and practical difficulties have arison in connection with
preserving the activities of the Farm Credit Administration as en
autonomous agency. Believing, as I do, that those considerations,

to which I have referred, are important, and that the individuals
engaged in agriculture are as such entitled to on independent credit
organisation, as are those engaged in financial, commercial, and in-

dustrial enterprises, I propose to regroup all of the agricultural
activities of the Federal Government dealing with agricultural credits
is an independent agency. The plan which I now transmit to as-

complish this purpose I shall describe briefly as follows
The Form Credit Administration was created originally by
an Executive Order, issued by no, which was submitted to the Congress
on March 27, 1933, and became effective on May 27, 1933. This order

accomplished the consolidation within one organization of the powers
and functions of all Federal agencies which were then dealing primarily

with agricultural credits. Those were the functions of the Federal
Para Loan Board, including those of the Farm Loan Commissioner, whose

title me changed by act of Congress to Land Bank Commissioner the

functions of the Federal Form Board, except those relating to stabilismtion operations; the functions of the Reconstruction Finance Corporetion pertaining to the management of the Regional Agricultural Credit
Corporations, and the functions of the Crop Production and Seed Loca

Offices of the Department of Agriculture.

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-Subsequently, the Emergency Farm Mortgage Act, the Farm Credit

Act of 1933, and the credit acts of subsequent years enlarged the

resources of existing lending institutions under the Farm Credit
Administration, and provided for the establishment of new facilities
which now constitute a permanent cooperative credit system. This
System is designed to meet the credit needs of farmers in their production, marketing, and purchasing operations.

Under the order of May 27, 1933, the Governor of the Farm
Credit Administration was made directly responsible to the President
and WAS vested with all powers, and authority and duties of the officars, executive agencies and the heads thereof, which were transferred
to the Farm Credit Administration.

I now propose to resstablish the Farm Credit Administration
as an independent agency, directly responsible to the President as it
existed and with the same functions which it possessed prior to

July 1, 1939. This will include the restoration of the Federal Farm
Mortgage Corporation and all other agencies, corporate or otherwise,

under the jurisdiction of the Farm Credit Administration to the same
status which they occupied in the Farm Credit Administration prior
to that date.

Thile the Rural Electrification Administration has certain
duties and functions which are educational in character, its primary

activity is that of extending credit to the residents of rural districts,
and should therefore be administered in coordination with the other

agricultural credit activities of the Federal Government. with these

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-6considerations in mind, I propose to transfer the Pural Elect
fication Administration from the Department of Agriculture to the
Farm Credit Administration to be administered under the direction
and supervision of the Governor.

The principles of good administration would indicate the
necessity for separating the functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and of the Department of Agriculture under section 3 of the
Emergency Relief Appropriation Act of 1939, which deal primarily with

the giving of assistance through rural rebebilitation and relief of
needy farmers and others, in the form of grents, from those functions

dealing with the extension of credit.
The important work of the Department of Agriculture in providing assistance to needy farmers and other persons, as well as the

prosecution of projecte, such as Greenbelt and other similar activities of the Farm Security Administration, should be continued for the
present and possibly in some instances be expended. This type of assistence to the needy should continue to be administered in the De-

partment of Agriculture. On the other hand, the functions of the
Secretary and of the Department involving the extension of credit
should be administered and coordinated with the other lending agencies
of the Federal Government.

I an firmly of the opinion that the present work of the
Farm Security Administration, in the lending of money to deserving

farmers for the purpose of rehabilitation, and the fare tenant program

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should be continued and expanded, as recommended by me to the Congress

at its last session.
In order to accomplish the separation of these functions, I
propose to transfer to the Farm Credit Administration all of the functions
of the Secretary of Agriculture and the functions of the Farmers' Home
Corporation, provided for in Titles I and II of the Bankhead-Jones Farm
Tenant Acts and all the functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and
the Farmors' Home Corporation under Title IV of the same legislation,
to the extent that such functions may relate to, and be necessary to

carry out, the functions and duties provided for under Titles I and II of
that Act. This will not involve the abolition of the Farmers' Home
Corporation but will morely mean that the Farm Credit Administration
will have the same powers with respect to farm acquirement loans and

rural rehabilitation loans (Titlee I and II, respectively, of the
Bankhead-Jones Form Tenant Act) as the Secretary of Agriculture and

the Farmers' Home Corporation (to which he is authorised to delegate

his powers in this connection) now have under these two titles, and
under Title IV of the same Act which contains, among other things, a
member of general provisions applicable to the administration of Title

I and Title II (as well as Title III functions). The plan will not
transfer the functions of the Secretary of Agriculture under Title III,
which provides & land utilisation and land conservation program, since

these are not credit functions. Similarly, it will not disturb his
general functions and powers under Title IV in so for as they relate

to the carrying out of his functions under Title III or any other

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functions vested in his by the Act and not transferred by the plan to
the Farm Credit Administration.

Similarly, I propose to transfer to the Farm Credit Administration
all functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and the Form Security Administration under section 3 of the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act

of 1939 to the extent that such functions relate to farm debt adjustment service, the making of loans and the extension of credit to farmers,
and to the servicing and adjustment of loans made, or credit extended
to farmers under said section or prior law.

I further propose to transfer to the Farm Credit Administration
the functions of the Secretary of Agriculture and the Farm Security
Administration under the Act of August 7, 1939 (Public No. 307, 76th
Congress), which relates to the development of form units on public
lends under Federal reclamation projects with funds loaned by the Form
Security Administration.

As a necessary cerellary to the foregoing transfers of functions,

the plan will transfer to the juriodiction and control of the Form
Credit Administration DO such of the personnel, records and property,
including office equipment of the Department of Agriculture, Farmers'
Home Corporation, and Farm Security Administration of the Department

of Agriculture as I may determine to be necessary to the efficient
performance of the functions transferred.

I believe from my investigation that this division of functions
and regrouping of agencies and activities is necessary in order to

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further the major purposes and objectives of the Reorganisation Act
of 1939.

In this connection I believe that the placing of all rural
credit activities of the Federal Government under one responsible

head will bring about a reduction of expenditures, increase the officiency of the organizations involved, and promote the consolidation
of such agencies, according to their major purposes. I am also con-

fident that the proposal will eliminate the overlapping and duplication of effort which now exists. The plan presented represents the
result of extensive study and experience gained through actual operation of the agencies involved. The plan conforms to methods of administration adopted by the Government with respect to its other

lending activities, and will permit the President to exercise closer
supervision and control over important fiscal operations and policies
of the Government. The reduction in administrative expenditures which

it is probable will be brought about by the taking effect of the reorganisations specified in the plan is estimated at 850,000 per annum.
While some of these economies can be brought about immediately,

others will require a gradual readjustment in machinery and business
practices of the agencies and functions effected.

I trust, therefore, that the Congress will view the plan as a
further step in improving the executive administration of the Government of the United States.

SJSsip

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INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE 11-9-39
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Foley

At Mr. McReynolds' request we have for some time been working on a
proposed reorganization plan which would consolidate in a new independent

agency all farm credit activities of the Government. The objective, as outlined by Mr. McReynolds, is to establish a single lending institution, to
which the agricultural section of the United States can go for its credit,
which could gradually be developed to a point where it will be self-supporting.
At Mr. McReynolds' request we have worked with Peyton Evans, General

Counsel of the Farm Credit Administration, on this matter. Mr. Evans is the
only person outside of the Department with whom the matter has been discussed.

Attached for your consideration are (A) a draft of such a reorganization
plan and (B) a draft of a message to accompany the plan. Both have been
cleared with and approved by Mr. Evans. This Plan (1) reestablishes the
Farm Credit Administration now a part of the Department of Agriculture as the
independent agency which it was prior to July 1, 1939, when Reorganization

Plan No. I transferring it to Agriculture became effective; (2) transfers
the Rural Electrification Administration (another independent agency which

was transferred to Agriculture by Reorganization Plan No. II) together with

all its activities, to the new independent Farm Credit Administration; and
(3) transfers the lending functions of the Farm Security Administration of
the Department of Agriculture to the new independent Farm Credit Administration.

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These comprise the farm acquirement loan functions under Title I of the
Bankhead-Jones Farm Tenant Act, the rehabilitation loan functions under

Title II of the same Act, and the Farm Security Administration lending functions authorized and appropriated for by section 3 of the Emergency Relief
Appropriation Act of 1939.

I wish to raise several questions of policy in connection with the
attached Plan for your consideration.

(1) Set-up of new agency. There are two major possibilities with
respect to the set-up of the new Farm Credit agency. A brand new agency,
such as the Federal Works Agency or the Federal Security Agency established

by Reorganization Plan No. I, could be established and the Farm Credit Ad-

ministration and the other agencies and functions within the scope of the Plan

transferred to it. The other alternative is the one adopted by the attached
Plan, that is, to reestablish the Farm Credit Administration as an independent
agency and then transfer the Rural Electrification Administration and the

other functions to it. The Farm Credit Administration itself was originally
established by consolidating a number of independent boards and agencies.

To create a new independent agency with an administrator and other new offi-

cials at the head, and transfer the Farm Credit Administration to it, would

result in creating three steps of officialdom (i.e., the original board and
agency heads of the Farm Credit Administration, the governor, and the new

administrator and his assistants); would create a great deal of confusion as
to where reponsibility lay; and would be administratively cumbersome.
(2) Exclusion of Commodity Credit Corporation. The Commodity Credit
Corporation has not been included in the attached draft among the agencies

to be transferred. It appears that its functions are essentially price

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stabilizing and not credit functions and would not therefore properly fit into
this reorganization picture. Moreover, it is doubtful whether the new agency
could ever be self-supporting if it had the Commodity Credit Corporation under
its roof.

(3) Only lending functions of Farm Security Administration transferred.
The non-lending functions of the Farm Security Administration and other branches

of the Department of Agriculture are not transferred by the attached Plan.

This will leave in the Department of Agriculture the relief functions of the
Farm Security Administration, all work in connection with land conservation

and land utilization, and the resettlement projects which it administers.
This has been done because it has been thought that the essentially agricultural credit character of the newly reorganized agency would be obscured

if relief and other non-credit functions were transferred to it.

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AMERICAN CONSULATE
30. 13

Hanoi, Indochina, November 10, 1939.

AIR MAIL

Subject: Transit of Commodities to China during
October, 1939.

The Honorable

The Secretary of State,
Washington.
Sir:

I have the honor to acknowledge the receipt of the
Department's telegraphic instruction, a paraphrase of
which was received under cover of a letter from the
Consulate General at Hongkong dated November 7. 1939,

in regard to the submission of a report on the first of
each month as to (1) the amount of freight at Haiphong

awaiting transit to China, (2) the amount of freight
transitted to China during the preceeding month, (3)

the percentage of this freight which is destined for the

Chinese Government, and (4) the general conditions
obtaining at Haiphong.

So far as I have been able to ascertain there were
at the beginning of October, 1939. at least 220 thousand
tons of freight at Haiphong and in other parts of

Indochina awaiting transit to China. By the end of

October, due to the measures mentioned in my despatches

nos. 5 and 10 of October 13 and 27, 1939, this total had

been reduced somewhat insofar as Haiphong itself was

concerned. But the total for all Indochina has remained
approximately the same. In other words, arrivals at
Haiphong and in Indochina of freight destined for
unoccupied China approximately equalled shipments of

freight to China.

It is estimated, there being no available sources of

accurate information, that between 13 and 14 thousand tone

of freight were transitted to China during October. of
this about 85 per cent was destined directly for the
Chinese Government or would ultimately be diverted to
the use of the Chinese Government or quasi-governmental

organizations, The Department may be interested in the
estimate that of the 13 or 14 thousand tons at least 7
or 8 thousand consisted of shipments of petroleum
products, chiefly gasoline. Of this amount about 3
thousand tons are believed to represent shipments under
the Universal Trading Company loan.
Insofar

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2-

Insofar as conditions at Haiphong are concerned,
reference is made to my despatches nos. 5 and 9 of
October 13 and 22, 1939. Little change has been noted
in conditions at Haiphong since the mailing of those

reports, save that the congestion of freight is some-

what less conspicuous than previously reported,
although this effect has been obtained mainly by moving

a part of the freight to places less in the public eye.
The situation at Haiphong is still characterized by a
lack of efficient organization, and confusion and

disorder are still in evidence. A serious effort is

being made to bring order out of confusion and to speed

up the transit of freight to China. But much remains
to be done - and there is no doubt but that some of
the freight at Haiphong is no better for being stored
in the open and under unfavorable climatic conditions.
The information set forth above has been obtained
through conversations with various reputedly wellinformed sources, and without giving publicity to the
interest of the United States Government in such

information. In this connection, I must say that there
are no readily available sources of statistical data,

as mentioned in the Department's telegraphic instruction,

and that an estimate is arrived at from entirely unrelated

and often inconsistent sources. The most accurate

estimate is that pertaining to the shipment of
petroleum products.

Respectfully yours,

CHARLES S. READ II,

American Consul.

Original and 2 copies to the Department
Copy to Embassy, Chungking
Copy to Embassy, Peiping
Copy to Consulate General, Hongkong

Copy to Consulate, Saigon
815.4

CSR/car

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Paraphrase of Telegram Received
FROM: American Embassy, Paris, France
DATE: November 10, 1939, noon.

NO.: 2712
The following 18 personal for Secretary Morgenthau:
Reference is made to your telegram of October 21,
No. 1289 and to telegram of November 2, No. 2634 from the
Embassy

The French have not yet straightened out as the Finance
Ministry had hoped the question of the suggested procedure

for handling war purchases in the United States. Yesterday
our Bank of France friend talked frankly with us about the

position of the Bank. He said that the Bank had unwittingly
been caused some embarrassment by the procedure which you

desired worked out. Unfortunately the Bank of France could

not spare a responsible officer to send to the United States
to be responsible for drawing on the account or accounts
to be carried in its name with the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York - in this connection the British were more fortunate
in that a responsible officer was on a mission in Canada
and could be given this task.

Our friend explained that the relations between the
Bank of France and the French Finance Ministry have not

always been of the best, although at present they are excellent.
Through the years, an excellent reputation for integrity,
responsibility and independence has been built up by the Bank

quite free from any of the political coloring of changing
ministries

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-2ministries of finance or the evidence of irresponsibility
or corruption which have crept into the Finance Ministry

at times. It is because of this that the Bank of France
is extremely reluctant to make the "unprecedented" move of

permitting a Finance Ministry representative or representatives to draw on the account of the Bank with the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York.

Our friend told us that he himself has been able to
stop payment on questionable contracts in four or five
cases. He cited one example of a sizeable order for shoes
from the United States some time ago. The appropriate
ministries had approved the order, and a relatively unknown

French intermediary was handling it. At the time the
intermediary came in to discuss the order with our friend,
the latter suggested that payment be handled through the

bank of the former. The intermediary replied that he has
no bank nor any connection with a bank; this plus the

man's bad credit rating, produced by our friend, and the
fact that in large part the thousands of American surplus
shoes which had been ordered for the French Army were

women's sizes, enabled him to stop the transaction.
Our friend indicated that the Bank of France would prefer

to handle important amounts itself directly, although he
said the Bank might be willing to permit an official from
the

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-3the Ministry of Finance to draw on the Bank's account for
sums say up to $50,000. He added that the Bank could
handle the important amounts without delay, and admitted

frankly that the Bank feared the possibility of being unwittingl;
involved in some scandal on purchases on a large scale.
Of course he realized, he said, that the Federal Reserve

Bank felt it could not carry a checking account for the
Ministry of Finance directly.
We had a talk with Couve de Murville last evening, who

confirmed to us the jealous anxiety of the Bank to guard
its independent position, and its fear that it would be a
"dangerous precedent" and opening wedge for the Ministry

of Finance to be permitted to draw on the Bank's account.
From Couve de Murville we gathered that the Ministry feels
the Bank of France is being over-conservative and unreasonably

so in the present war crisis, and that the Ministry is still
hopeful that a solution can be worked out.
END SECTIONS ONE TO FIVE INCLUSIVE.
BULLITT.

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SECRETARY OF STATE

143

B.C.

DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON

November 10, 1939.

My dear Mr. Secretary:

I enclose three copies of paraphrase of sections

one to five, inclusive, of telegram No. 2712 of
November 10 from Paris, transmitting a personal
message for you.

Sincerely yours,
Herbert reis

Herbert Feis

Adviser on International
Economic Affairs

Enclosures:

3 copies, paraphrase,
sections 1-5, No. 2712
of November 10.

The Honorable

Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Secretary of the Treasury. RECEIVED
MAV 10 1939
TREASURY DEPARTMENT

Office of the Secretary
Technical Assistant to the Security

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
TO:

American Embassy, Paris

NO.:

1378

see also

2783 - 11-18
11-20
-

11-25
2428- 11-25

DATE: November 10, 1939

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL FOR THE AMBASSADOR.

11.25

I have been requested by the President to inform you
that according to his judgment, the problem with which

this country is faced 18 as follows: At the same time
that the French and British Governments are attempting

to purchase goods in this country, it will be necessary
for the United States Government to purchase similar
goods. It is his opinion that separate (emphasize separate)
purchasing agencies should be established by France and
Great Britain but that those two Governments should make

plans for the responsible heads of their respective purchasing agencies to have continuing contact and coordination with each other 80 that the purchases made by the

two agencies will be satisfactorily synchronized, and
above all, he believes that there should be effective
synchronization of the purchases which these two agencies

will make with the purchases which the United States
Treasury Department will be making.
HULL
(CWG)

EA:EB

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PLAIN

HSM

London

Dated November 10, 1939
REC'D 12:50 P. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2327, November 10.
FOR TREASURY.

1. With reference to the third paragraph of my
No. 2305 of November 8, it is announced today that the
Chancellor of the Exchequer will broadcast on National
savings on November 22 at 9:15 P. m. Greenwich time.
2. Press comments this morning on yesterday's Bank

of England return reported in my No. 2318 of November 9
attribute the decline in bankers' deposits to the EXCESS
of payments of new Treasury bills OVER maturities and also
note that an increase in public deposits during November
is usual in preparation for the DECEMBER 1 war loan interEST payments.

3. Meanwhile the October clearing bank statements have

become available showing an increase in bill portfolios of
653 million and in money at call and notice of 613-1/2
million, while cash is down by 612 million and the cash
ratio reduced from 11.74 percent to 10.98 percent. Deposits
have increased by another 6132 million; investments show

little

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ham -2- No.2327, November 10, from London

little change, increasing by less than L3 million, while
advances rose by about the same amount. The increase of

666.3 million in the combined figure of bills and call
money being in EXCESS of the expansion in the Treasury

bill issue which rose by 655 million in the month tends
to confirm the suspicion that the banks have been fed
with tap bills from official quarters in recent WEEKS.

4. At today's Treasury bill allotment the syndicate
obtained 61 percent of its applications and the average
rate for the tender was approximately b1.3a.1-1/2d. as
compared with 11.3s.4.39d.last WEEK.

5. The further decline of sterling in NEW York
yesterday still receives no comment in the TIMES while
in the FINANCIAL TIMES it is attributed to "the nervousness of the market in NEW York". The FINANCIAL NEWS writer

Einzig renews his plea for the tightening of loopholes

especially the ability of importers to pay for goods in
sterling which is then transferable by the foreign holder.
6. Though the official rate for the Dutch guilder has
not moved the belga continues to weaken, the rate being

fixed at 24.05-25.00 yesterday and 24.20-50 today. The
Argentine rate was fixed 17.00-17.50 today having stood at

16.90-17.40 since October 11. Other officially fixed rates
are unchanged. Many of the free rates have moved adverse-

ly to sterling today. The Danish and Finnish rates hardened
slightly

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ham -3- No. 2327, November 10, from London

slightly to 20-1/4 bid and 216 bid respectively, and the
Italian lira continues to appreciate being quoted today
75-76having been 77-1/2-78-1/2 on Monday. The yen has

also appreciated to 1s.2-5/8d.-21/32d. as compared with
1s.2-3/16d.-7/32d. on Monday.

7. The Stock Exchange reflected the uncertainties of

the international situation with both gilt-Edged and
industrial markets weak. War loan was down 5/8 at 91-1/8
at the close.
KENNEDY
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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED
FROM:

American Embassy, Paris

NO.:

2714

DATE:

November 10, 1939, 2 p.m.
SECTIONS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

FOR THE TREASURY

Yesterday we talked with the Manager of the B.I.S.,
Roger Auboin, who came back from Basel only & few days

ago. Mr. Auboin said that an arrangement had been worked
out by President Beyen and him by which he will keep his

title as Manager of the B.I.S. 80 that he can maintain a

certain "control" over the activities of the bank; he
said that in practice, however, a "neutral" will perform
his duties. (It is our understanding that Mr. Auboin
will hold an important post in the set-up for France's
war purchases. He seems pleased that he is to get away

from the relative inactivity of the B.I.S. in wartime.)
He told us that the position of the bank is not such a
difficult one as 18 generally supposed. General opinion
here is that the Bank will not be able to meet its operating
expenses if Germany ceases to pay interest on the investments of the Bank. He stated that this was an exaggerated
statement of the situation and that the Bank would be able

to continue but that it would have to reduce its personnel
greatly

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greatly. He said that the Bank was aware that since the
beginning of the war its position was a delicate one. of
by this time
course/France and Britain had withdrawn all the funds they
could. For the purpose of avoiding as much criticism as
possible, the Bank had voluntarily agreed that it would
not conduct any operations for the central banks of

belligerent countries. He also said that although this
restriction which the B.I.S. had imposed on itself was

"technically neutral", in practice it worked one-sidedly
because it was scarcely likely that the Bank of England
would desire to carry on transactions in Reichsmarks

but there was a possibility that in certain cases the
certain transactions in sterling.
Reichabank might care to carry out through the B.I.S/

Auboin said that so far the attitude had been taken by his German assistant and also by the

authorities of the Reichabank that a real war did not

exist, that the affair was just an occurrence in Poland,
and that business should be carried on in the usual way.

Of course Auboin was not able to subscribe to this attitude
and an even firmer position was taken by the British;
however, it was more difficult to arrange a completely
neutral manner of functioning for the B.I.S. because of
the German position. The Germans are now making punctual
payments on the investments which the Bank has made in
Germany

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Germany; we asked Auboin how long he thought they would

keep on doing so. He stated that it was difficult for
him to say but he felt that for reasons of a personal
nature the personnel of the Reichsbank wished to cooperate

with the B.I.S. as long as the leaders of the Nazi party
would permit them to do 80. He added that many of the
personnel of the Reichabank were afraid that there would
be eventually a turnover in the Reich and they considered
that their associations in the B.I.S. were somewhat of

an "ace in the hole" for the future and that they constituted a safeguard against complete isolation.
Auboin informed us that the new President, Mr.
McKittrick, would arrive at Basel by way of Genoa around
the 20th of November (you have probably been informed of

this) but theoretically he was not scheduled to take
office until January.
We inquired of Auboin whether he had any definite
idea with reference to German economic conditions. He

made answer that there was great difficulty in forming
an opinion that was really well based but he said he did
not believe that conditions in Germany were as bad as

was generally pictured in Great Britain and France. He
said that one weakness in the German position was that

although it 18 supposed that considerable stocks of supplies

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plies necessary for carrying on the war are owned by the
Government, there is an extremely small amount of stocks

in the hands of industries, firms and individuals. of
course, the holdings of the German Government would be

somewhat offset by this fact.

EA:EB

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(PARTIAL)
PARAPHRASE OF SECTIONS FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN OF TELEGRAM

NO. 2714 OF NOVEMBER 10, 1939, 2 P.M., FROM THE AMERICAN
EMBASSY, PARIS, FRANCE:

He remarked to the Minister for Air, Guy la Chambre, in

this regard, that, upon his return from a neutral nation
that 18 subject to rather rigid rationing, he was shocked
to discover that France, one of the belligerents, does not
have true rationing; nor does the public realize that it
is important that waste should be avoided. Guy la Chambre
said he was completely in accord; he himself was surprised

and also concerned at the stream of motor traffic, especially on Sundays, on roads which lead out of the city of
Paris. This traffic is almost like the week-end pleasure
and tour traffic of normal peacetime. The Minister for
Air went on to say that the waste of gasoline must be reduced drastically from the point of view of both needed
aviation stocks and wasted resources of foreign exchange;

furthermore, while he recognizes it to be desirable that
the matter of rationing should proceed gradually, he will
insist that unnecessary allowances in gasoline be greatly
reduced. Referring to telegram no. 2148 of the 23d of
September, 1939, 1 p.m.:- There hasn't been any real pinch

on the public here such as that which exists in
belligerent and neutral countries elsewhere, although, as
you know, gasoline cards have been required here since

November 1. In the matter of reduction in non-essential
gasoline

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153

gasoline allowances, Guy la Chambre stated that one plan
for its accomplishment, which some favor, would be to

raise the price of gasoline by extra taxes; however, he

believed that were this put into effect, the legitimate
commercial users of gasoline would be too heavily penalized

and that the wealthy people who drive for pleasure would

not feel the pinch. In this respect we said we believed
that French newspapers and the French information center

were mostly responsible for the attitude of the public
towards waste, because they are constantly stressing the
"glowing" contrast between French abundance and the priva-

tions in Germany in food and other things. Both of them
agreed regarding this matter. We were informed yesterday

by Reynaud's Directeur de Cabinet, Palewski, that the
French public should be brought to realize the importance
of making greater sacrifices and reducing waste; and great
efforts should be made to convince the French people in

this respect. A requirement that, from now on, bread
must contain rye flour to the extent of 2% was published
in the Journal Officiel this morning.
Tomorrow Reynaud, together with his staff of experts,
will proceed to London for the purpose of discussing the

whole question of financial cooperation in the war by
Great Britain and France, with Sir John Simon and some

other British authorities; war purchases and credits to
friendly

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friendly nations and allied nations will be included in
this discussion.
The Swiss National Bank statement for the weed ended

November 7 shows a reduction in gold reserves of 41.2

million francs to 2,253.3 millions. Foreign exchange

holdings are up 25.2 millions to 316.4 millions. Note circulation is down 34.7 millions to 2,001.5 millions. Sight
obligations are up 17.6 millions to 852.3 millions. Gold
coverage 1s 82.46 percent as compared with 83.40 percent.
BULLITT

EA:MSG

155
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Rome, Italy
DATE:

November 10, 1939, noon

NO.: 502
Confidential information has come to me that within a
few days there will be a change in the conversion rate

for remittances from Italian emigrants to Italy; the new
rate will be $4.05 per hundred lire, where formerly it
was $4.55. It is a matter of conjecture whether this action
presages a further devaluation of the ordinary rate for
dollar exchange.
PHILLIPS.

EA:LWW

2691 01 VAK
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF
PSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE
ADDRESS

REVENUE

REFER TO

IT:P:CA

November 10, 1939.

CAA

REPORT FOR SECRETARY MORGENTHAU:

In regard to closing agreements which have been requested,
the following applies:
Colt's Patent Fire Arms Manufacturing Company:

This agreement has been completed and the contractor's copy
was mailed to the company on November 8, 1939.

De Laval Steam Turbine Company:

The contractor filed application with the Navy Department

for a certificate. Action by such department is awaited.

The Midvale Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvanias

There have been no further developments. Action by Navy

Department (re certification) is awaited.

New Matters:

Inquiries for information regarding Press Release 18-79

have been received from North American Aviation Company and
American Optical Company and have been answered (orally).

by Commi sioner Whitney

156

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Address

FOO SHING TRADING CORPORATION
SUN SUN GARDEN

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CODES:

BENTLEY'S
ACME

CHUNGKING

2638

10th November 1939.

Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,

Treasury Department,
Washington, D.C.
U.S.A.

Dear Mr. Morgenthau,

The British Ambasaador, Sir Archibald
Kerr Clark Kerr, asked to see me recently.

During the interview, he mentioned his interest
in wood oil passing through Rangoon and offered
to facilitate such shipments if any problems
arose. lie is very sympathetic to China's cause
and states that he hopes to see every Japanese
soldier off Chinese soil. no WAS very pleased
with Ambassador Grow's speech in Tokyo and
stated that actions of that kind on the part of
America greatly stiffened the British backbone
and that Britain would follow America in any
steps curtailing Japan.
With best personal regards,
Sincerely yours,

J.
hosing
J. Lossing
Puck.Buck

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Sun Foo Sun Gardens, Chungking.

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Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr. .
Treasury Department,
Washington, D.C.

U.S.A.

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THE UNDER SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON

November 10. 1939

Dear Henry:

I send you clippings from today's newspapers. I
wonder if it would not be possible to get someone to
tell Mr. Eccles to mind his own damn business.
Best regards,
Sincerely,

Johnnie
The Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.

The Secretary of the Treasury.

NEW YORK TIMES

NOV 10 1939

59

w

Urges More Taxes

Instead of slashing relief and

farm funds Mr. Eccles continued,
"we should follow the unpopular

but necessary course of imposing
additional taxation in order to meet
the added costs of our armament
program and to reduce the deficit
without sacrificing the low-Income

TAX ON SMALL MAN

groups, whose sustained and in

SOUGHT BY ECCLES

creasing purchasing power to need
ed to sustain and increase produce
tion

Accordingly, additional taxation

He Also Proposes Bigger Levy

should be levied, not alone upon
war profits but upon those income
groups now relatively undertaxed
among whom the greatest propor

on Large Corporations to
Help Balance Budget

tion of savings that are unable to

find profitable outlet today are

now accumulating At the same

time. I favor increasing domestic
purchasing power by decreasing

SEES WAR NO HELP IN END

consumption

taxes."

He said his plan for taxing "rainy

day reserves of big corporations

Asks Less Exemption for Single

was not the unpopular undistribut

ed profits tax that the last Congress

Man Under $1,000 and for

repealed after three years of controversy. He said the proposed tax
would not apply to small business
men at all, and would not apply to
big corporations if they used their
surplus profits to pay dividends or

Family Head Under $2,500
ST LOUIS, Nov. 9 UP-Marriner
s. Eccies chairman of the Federal

to modernize or expand their plants.

Reserve Board called tonight for
higher taxes on small individuals

pluses, he said, corporations ought
either to reduce prices to consumers

Rather than pile up huge sure

or increase wages, but If they did

and big corporations to finance DA

neither It was necessary for the
government to tax the excessive

tional defense expenditures, balance

the udget and solve the problem

surpluses. Such levies, he asserted.

money

of

In speech prepared for there

servance of the twenty-fifth and
versary of the St. Louis Federal
Reserve Bank, Mr. Eccies also

acouted any idea that war business
would be of any long-range benefit
to the United States

hope," he said, 'that none of
us will be deluded into Imagining

"liscourage corporations from

wing money from the na-

wit

tion"

"Income stream.

Not "Pay-as-You-Go"
Mr. Eccles did not urge the "pay-

as-you-go" idea of social security

frequently advocated by Republican

leaders, but be agreed with the
critica who opposed building up

large reserves of payroll taxes in

that the tragle accident of Euro

hard times

solve or even ameliorate our funda

my judgment. he declared "of so
cumulating vast reserve in times
of large unemployment taxing it

pean war will in the long run,
mental domestic problems

The armament orders and other

war business he asserted will only
aggravate the Investment problem
caused by the pilling up of $5,350,
000,000 in the nation's banks.

"We have made the mistake, in

ot out of those best able to pay or
JOSE whose savings are tdle, but
ut of payrolls mainly of those who

therwise doubtless would have
ept the funds moving in the in-

Program Suggested

one

Here is the program put forward
Mr. Encles, . close White House

adviser

stream.

The time to build up social secur-

y reserves, he said. to in days of

crosperity, so that in hard times

benefit payments can exceed the

1. Reduce exemptions that enable single men earning less than
$1,000 and family heads earning

LICES This philosophy is similar to
he Treasury deficit theory that Mr.
Eccles has advocated for years. He
has urged the Administration to in-

less than $2,500 to escape Federal
income taxes

our deficits in hard times deliberately in order to increase public

2. Increase tax rates on persons

earning from $5,000 to $50,000

3. Increase the "normal" in

purchasing

power

The banker said his tax program

come tax'on corporations to take

indirectly would solve the idie-

away a share of "war profits.

money problem by taxing funds that

4. Put extra taxes on "rainy day

otherwise would be saved and by

reserves" piled up in "excessive

amounts' by large corporations

5. Reduce consumer taxes, such

stimulating investment to use up
some of the already existing idle

as the excises on automobiles

money

gasoline and theatre tickets
6. Adjust social security and unemployment Insurance taxes so

kid the present fund of idle
month was caused almost clusive

Blames Gold Influx

that they will not exceed benefit

by by the huge Influx of foreign

payments at least until times are

much better.

Continued on Page Thirty-seven

are hearing today Mr. Es
that the

el

ernment

should

reduce

of

the

present expend

for agricultural benefits and for

work relief. in order that funds for
expanded

an

may be provided without

creased deficit or
taxes

"In my opinion It be

fair and unsound

pass increased armaments
to those of the

who would profit out

foreign

or

domestic

who are the able

bear the costs and whose increased

purchasing power to

economic welfare

The chairman was referring to

views such as have been expressed

by influential Senators in recent

weeks, and his retort was the first
reaction from the Administration
inner circle

$1,500,000,000 of readily salable ..

TAX ON SMALL MAN
SOUGHT BY ECCLES

curities, and had other resources
and investments marketable here
worth about $1 500 000,000. In addi-

tion, he said. the Allies have about
$6,000,000,000 worth of gold, and

their territories produce an add)

tional $750,000,000 of new gold each

Continued From Page Thirty-five
gold in recent years, and added that

the "cash and carry' Neutrality Act

would aggravate the problem by
making it necessary for Europe to

send more gold here to pay for
goods

Because Idle money can be re-

loaned by banks several times. Mr.

Eccles estimated that the present

volume of such funds could theoreically be the basis for $30,000,000.000 to $40,000,000,000 in loans-an

nflation about which the Federal

Reserve Board has worried for SEVral years
Although he had no exact figures

in how much money France and

England could spend In the United

States Mr. Eccles estimated they
ad about $1,250,000,000 of cash de

osited in this country, owned about

year.

Eccles Tax Ideas
Reserve Head Urges
Curb on Corporate

Oversaving, New Levies

Asks War Profit Impost,

WALL STREET JOURNAL

100

NOV 10 1939

Eccles Tax Plan
Continued from First Page
of deficit spending by the Federal Government

In support of this theory Mr. Eccles cited last
night the findings of a recent report by the Na-

Broader Income Base, Re-

tional Resources Committee which showed that

vival of Profits Surtax

than $5,000 saved $4,800,000,000 a year in 1936

the 3% of the families with incomes of more
and 1937 as against $2,800,000,000 for the 39%

of the families with incomes of between $1,250

and $5,000 and as against the 59% of the

U.S. Must Pay for Armaments

families which had no savings.

Increased taxation on the "relatively undertaxed" families with incomes of between $5,000

From Tax WALL STREET JOURNAL St. Louis Bureau

ST. LOUIS- drastic revision of the fed.
eral tax structure designed to increase consumption, reduce "oversaving" and to narrow
the "gap between government Income and outgo" was advocated here last night by Marriner
S. Eccles, chairman of the Board of Governors
of the Federal Reserve System.

Mr. Eccles spoke at the 25th anniversary

of the opening of the Federal Reserve Bank of
St. Louis

The principal tax changes urged by Mr.

Eccles were the following:

1. Additional taxation including levies on

war profits, to pay for increased armament ex-

penditures. without curtailing outlay for agricultural benefits, work relief and similar social
expenditures.

2. Reduction in consumption taxes. both

and $50,000 would "offset continued overaccumulation of idle funds, add less to bank de-

posits through the process of deficit financing
and help close the gap between government receipts and expenditures," Mr. Eccles contended

In discussing the immediate business situs-

tion, Mr. Eccles said there was evidence of bet-

ter voluntary control to prevent a runaway
situation and subsequent collapse.

Conceding that the recent rise in Industrial
activity is based in considerable degree on an
ticipatory buying and inventory accumulation
he declared that "fortunately, there appears to
be a more widespread recognition that as a mat.

ter of self-interest, restraint should be imposed
by business and labor leadership to prevent a

recurrence of the price distortions and inventory

boom that led to the sharp relapse beginning
in the middle of 1937.

state and federal, and revision of old-age and
employment insurance, apparently in the direc-

Business Cooperation

benefits

spreading out production, he continued "Even

tion of reduced payroll taxes and increased

Broader Tax Base
3. Broadening the income tax base and raising tax rates on incomes of between $5,000 and

"To that end, business men appear more
ready to cooperate in price restraints and in

though there may be glut of orders in some
lines, including the steel industry, production
and deliveries should be evened out over longer

periods than has been the case under past
practice.

$50,000.

4. Increasing the normal corporation income

tax and reducing present exemptions on the in-

heritance tax "to help pay for an increased

armament program.

5. Revival of taxation similar to the undiatributed profits surtax in order to discourage
"over-accumulation of so-called rainy day re-

serves which are being set aside in excessively

large amounts, particularly by the larger corporations. Mr. Eccles opposed however, the
application of such taxes to small businesses.
Increased Outlets

Mr. Eccles endeavored to tie up these pro-

Mr. Eccles also cited the "more rational

policy' being pursued in the liquidation of foreign holdings of American securities in order
to reduce the market disturbance to a minimum

as well as in the timing and spacing of foreign

war orders with a view "both to more orderly

production and the avoidance so far as possible

of conflict between foreign and domestic needs
for essential materials.
He expressed the personal and "unofficial"

view that the country will be "far better off if.
so far as possible. foreign purchases were to be

paid out of the sale of their goods in this coun

try and out of the proceeds of the liquidation

posals with the general deaire of the banking
fraternity for increased outlets for funds and

in this country of American securities held by
foreigners rather than through further acquisi-

higher money rates.
tax program would do much to keep

no present or prospective use, because they

funds moving

in a that will

not sustain

otherwise stream tion "Such and thus a stagnate way only augment existing in the consump- income invest-

ment. but open the way for new investment."
he declared. "The banking and investment com-

munity cannot expect to do nothing about the

tion of foreign gold and silver for which we have
would only increase the present unprecedented
volume of unused excess reserves and deposits
of the banking system.
Renews Recommendations

Mr. Eccles renewed his previous recommen-

dations for expanded authority for the Federal

piling up of idle funds on the one hand and,

Reserve System to control excess bank re-

earnings which they so much desire. It is the
old story you can't haye your cake and eat it

low interest rates under existing conditions he
asserted his conviction that "It is essential for
the monetary authorities to be in a position to

on the other hand, have the interest rates and
too."

Mr. Eccles predicted that interest rates in
the near future will not exceed the average
for the past years "In which we have had the
combined effect of heavy excess reserves and

lack demand for credit and for funds for new
investment." The foreign war. he maintained,

will not correct this situation but "is likely to

make It worse."

"The remedy must be found at home," he
asserted.

"Over-Saving Theory"
Throughout his address, the Federal Reserve

Chairman stressed the "over-saving" theory of

the economic troubles of the United States,
which also has underlain his previous advocacy
Please turn to page 7, column $

serves. While stating that he favored continued

influence the availability and cost of credit in

order to discharge their proper responsibilities

Despite recent increases in commercial bank

loans, Mr. Eccles expressed doubt that the industrial demand for credit will be sufficient to
abserb any substantial amount of excess re-

serves He declared that corporation cash re-

serves together with existing surplus plant
capacity and improved production methods requiring less plant expansion and less man power

than would have been needed under old methods

would limit the demand for new funds

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November 10, 1939

Dear Mr. Aleops

Your letter of November 9th
arrived after Secretary Morgenthau
had left for Arisona. He expects

to return to Washington in about a
week and I shall be pleased to bring

your letter to his attention at that
time.

Sincerely yours,

H. 3. Klots

Private Secretary

Mr. Joseph Alsop,

1106 National Press Building,
Washington, D. C.

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JOSEPH ALSOP AND ROBERT KINTNER

The Capital Parade
1106 NATIONAL PRESS BUILDING
WASHINGTON. D. c.

TELEPHONE NATIONAL 2304

AMERICAN

PAPER ALLIANCE

November 9, 1939

Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Esquire,

Secretary of the Treasury,
Department of the Treasury,
Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. Secretary,

After our long and rather wearing talk,
for which you so generously gave of your time, there are
two things I should like to say on paper so that they may
be completely clear. First, Bob and I are now very sorry

that we were so vehement. Being a sympathetic person, I am

sure you will realize why we felt badly treated. Equally,

we realize that the difficulty between you and us arose
almost wholly from mutual incomprehension.

Second, now that you know what we want and

we know what you are willing to give, my understanding of our

agreement is as follows. With the exception of one or two
secret matters you will make the record of the incidents in
which we are interested fully available to us on a personal
and strictly confidential basis. We will then prepare a
precis of the record, exercising our own most careful editorial
discretion. The précis will show you what we would like to
print. It will be submitted to you, and if our editing seems
anywhere inadequate, you will edit it freely yourself.
Only when you have laid aside your blue pencil, will we be

free to use the remaining material for our proposed magazine
articles.
This arrangement seems to me eminently

fair and practical. It will surmount the difficulty presented

by the other plan of your having to select material, except in
a broad way, giving us access to it. At the same time,
it will assure you of the most complete safeguards against

the publication of any statement which you might think dangerous.

I should add, that after you have edited the precis, it is my
purpose to have it copied off in its final form, and to return
to you the original version and all other notes.

163

JOSEPH ALSOP AND ROBERT KINTNER

The Capital Parade
1106 NATIONAL PRESS BUILDING
WASHINGTON. D. C.

AMERICAN

TELEPHONE NATIONAL 2304

PAPER ALLIANCE

-2-

I cannot close without apologizing for
taking
so much
of your
time andAs
foralways,
trespassing
so long
greatly
your
good
will and
helpfulness.
you have
been
most kind to Bob and to me.

Gratefully,

for Ala

November 10, 1939

Dear Mr. Alsop:

Your letter of November 9th

return
to
a
week and I bring
arrived after Secretary Morgenthau

left for Arisona.

had to shall Washington be pleased He in about expects to

your letter to his attention at that
time.

Sincerely yours,

H. 3. Klots

Private Secretary

Mr. Joseph Alsop,

1106 National Press Building,
fashington, D. c.

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November 10, 1939

Dear Mr. Alsops

Your letter of November 9th
arrived after Secretary Morgenthau
He
expects
had left for Arisona.
to return to Washington in about a
week and I shall be pleased to bring

your letter to his attention at that
time.

Sincerely yours,

H. S. Klots
Private Secretary

Mr. Joseph Alsop,

1106 National Press Building,
Washington, D. c.

185

166
November 10, 1939

To:

The Files

From:

Mr. Hanes

Cabinet meeting - 2:00 P. M.

The following persons were present: The President, Messrs. Hull,

Woodring, Murphy, Edison, Ickes, Wallace, Noble, Hanes, Madam Perkins.

The President opened the meeting by stating that he had been in
close touch with the State Department and the Belgian and Netherlands
Embassies, that he believed the next move contemplated by the Germans

was to invade Holland, occupying a strip of land as a corridor to the

Sea, between the West bank of the Rhine and the Scheldt River. He said
the object of course in doing this was to establish submarine, naval
and air bases 60 miles from the English Coast. He said the best information he had was to the effect that there was a good deal of sentiment
in Holland to submit to the German demands without fighting; that
there was no indication that Germany would violate Belgian neutrality
at this time. Secretary Hull discussed this same problem and said that
undoubtedly the Germans had made other demands upon the Dutch which

had not been made clear as yet to the State Department.

The President asked me what the Treasury's plans were for financing

between now and spring. I told him that I did not think the Secretary
had definitely made up his mind, but that in general the idea was to
get as much of the financing behind him as possible at the first opportune
moment before any further crises may upset general market conditions,
which at this time seem favorable. I reported to him that having
successfully concluded refunding of the December notes and the RFC

financing, that I thought the Secretary would like to take the first
advantageous moment to refund the $1,300 million March maturities and

probably ask for $500 million additional cash, which would leave the
market entirely free in 1940 for corporate financing. The President
seemed to indicate a desire to let the Treasury cash position run down,
mentioning a figure of $800 million as an amount which he would deem

adequate. The rest of the meeting was short, the President taking up
with each Department head detailed matters upon which they had something
to report.

Secretary Woodring discussed airplane developments, Secretary Edison

talked about Navy personnel, Messrs. Murphy, Farley, and Ickes had nothing
to report. Under Secretary Noble reported on the export situation and
Madam Perkins spoke for a few minutes on the labor situation. When 15 these

routine matters had been dispensed with the President devoted about
minutes to the subject of change of flag from America to Panama in
connection with the request of the U. S. Lines.

167

-2The President stated that the matter was first brought to his

attention on Tuesday evening, November 7th, after the approach had
been made to the Maritime Commission and agreed to by them. He said

that on Tuesday evening he had spent two or three hours on the telephone

from Hyde Park with Secretary Hull and Admiral Land that he had come

into the situation cold without background. He said the Secretary of
State was exactly right in his statement to the effect that this was
a circumvention of the Neutrality Law, that he saw no legal obstacle
in the way of doing what the U. S. Lines wanted to do. He did not say
directly that he would not approve it, but from the conversation I
gathered he had made up his mind not to do so. He spoke at some length

about how he intended taking care of the 5000 seamen who would be

"beached" due to the removal from the North Atlantic of 20 to 30 vessels.
The President asked the War and Navy to figure out as many things as

possible that they could buy from distant countries for the "stock pile"
in order that we might send these vessels into neutral waters and
pick up such cargoes and return them to America. The meeting ended at
3:45.

JWH.

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188

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 10, 1939.
Secretary Morgenthau

TO

FROM Mr. Cochran

Before deciding upon the draft and initialing today's telegram to the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York in regard to the BIS -- Turkish arrangement

on gold, I telephoned Mr. Knoke at 3:30 p.m. I discussed with him the general
question of loans against gold held under earmark with the Federal Reserve
Bank of New York. We referred to the point raised a few days ago by Bolton in
regard to a British commercial bank making the Central Bank of Uruguay a loan
against gold held under earmark with the Federal. At that time we had both
agreed that a transaction involving banks other than a Central Bank or the
BIS., having a lien against gold earmarked with the Fed., should not be countenanced. We had taken this same position in September when the National City
Bank of New York desired to use gold earmarked with the Federal by the Royal

Treasury of Thailand as collateral for a loan by the National City Bank to

Theiland.

Knoke confirmed that his Bank did make loans of 90 days, renewable twice
for similar periods, to Central Banks against gold under earmark with the
Federal, after specific approval by the directors of the New York Bank and the
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. Such a loan is actually outstanding to the Central Bank of the Republic of Turkey.
Knoke SSW no reason whatever why the BIS should not be permitted to have

gold earmarked with the Federal which was pledged to the BIS as collateral for
a loan by it to the Central Bank of Turkey. That is, he saw no reason why the
action requested by the BIS should not be carried out. Knoke said that he and
Mr. Cameron had discussed the matter and that it had also been referred to
Mr. Tiebout, who could be reached by our lawyers. Mr. Bernstein came to my
office with the draft, which had been considered by Messrs. Foley and Pehle,
and while he was here Mr. Dietrich telephoned Mr. Cameron. The latter confirmed
thatone.
Knoke, he and Tiebout were all in agreement that the transaction
was
a proper
Before talking with Knoke, as above recounted, I had asked Dr. White to
meet with Mr. Bernstein and myself. Dr. White offered no objection to the
transaction if our counsel saw no legal reason for denying it.
Since this case constitutes somewhat of a precedent, and particularly several

since it concerns the BIS, I took pains to obtain advice from the recalledthat

sources above indicated before taking the decision. It will be Washing-

I mentioned the matter to the Secretary shortly before he was leaving all sides

ton, and the Secretary left the decision to me. After considering no risk; that

of the question, I an convinced that the Treasury runs absolutely in

the precedent is not likely to be an embarrassing one; and that a change
policy could be easily made if changed circumstances warranted it. On the other

hand, I think we are doing a useful service in letting the transaction be carried

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169

out. utilized
It is permitting
someto
small
part of theBank.
gold held
in this to
be
a credit
a Central
Weearmarked
have country

out
to
up
to
intervene
as
the
such a transaction as this, that we should not block its efforts to be

build for the the BIS, basis but of I when feel it is able intermediary not put ourselves in

helpful unless we have a very valid reason for our position.

KMR

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EXCHANGE STABILIZATION FUND

November 10, 1939

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK

NEW YORK NEW YORK

HE CABLE TO YOU OF NOVEMBER EIGHTH FROM BIS REQUESTING TRANSFER OF GOLD

FROM BIS ACCOUNT #2 TO BIS ACCOUNT #4 STOP IN THIS CASE YOU ARE HEREBY
AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THE TRANSFER REQUESTED AND TO HOLD THE GOLD UNDER EARMARK

PURSUANT TO LICENSE NUMBER NY EIGHTEEN DASH ONE ISSUED BY THIS DEPARTMENT
STOP THIS DECISION SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS A GENERAL RULING OF THE
DEPARTMENT.

(Signed) John W. Hanes

Acting Secretary of the Treasury.

JVP:Kgt 11/9/39

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November 8, 1939.

Bank for International Settlements
Basel

Your #448 noted.

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Phoned to Mr. Dietrich
from Mr. Weber

172

From: B.I.S., Basle, Switserland
To: Federal Reserve Bank of New York
Date: November 8, 1939

4448.

Please obtain license to transfer approximately 1,000 kilos fine
gold from our Account #2 to an Account #4 containing gold owned by
Banque Centrale de la Republique de Turquie, Ankara, and pledged in

our favor to secure commercial credits.
Bank for International Settlement

Rec'd by phone from Mr. Liddy, F.R.B. N.Y., Nov.8/39. 3:35 P.M.

Capy to the Secretary
173

November 10. 1939.

Acting Secretary
Mr. Cochres

Some days age I told the Secretary that Dr. Randelph Durgess, while
talking with me by telephone in regard to another matter, motioned the
interest of the National city Bank in any financial arrangements that
touch upon the finances and debts of Latin-American countries, particularly,
Celembia, Pora and Passes. Dr. Burgess was concerned last the short-term
together with the
banking settlements. creditsaBefore
might such
be Imped long-term
the
procedure
considered,
or
like very much
toiscome
toeitherleansheMr.OFin Restachier,

or yourself such information as the

present perhaps to both the Secretary of then, would Washington they have in and

premises. Burgess speke to me again this morning ea this point, since
he had noted that a representative from Colombia had arrived is this
country. I told him I would mention the matter to you.

K.M.G.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 10, 1939.

TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Cochran

Reference is made to my memorandum of November 9 which dealt with the
weakness in sterling.

It will be recalled that I mentioned the early weakness at the staff
meeting yesterday and that Mr. White requested that the Secretary give us
instructions on the policy which we should pursue vis-d-vis the British
during his absence. The Secretary requested four of us to meet together,
Mesers. White, Riefler, Viner and myself, and to report back to him at 3
o'clock, bringing in Dr. Feis of the State Department, and a representative
from the Department of Commerce, if we might consider the latter desirable.
Our group of four held two meetings, one before noon and the second
shortly before meeting with the Secretary at 3:10 p.m. Mr. Glasser was
present at the second meeting. Dr. Feis joined us shortly before we entered
the Secretary's office.

Mr. White favored the idea of a message to our Embassy in London seek-

ing certain information from the British authorities in regard to their

sterling policy. If this initial inquiry did not evoke full and satisfac-

tory information, and 17 the sterling rate did not please us within the
next few days, Mr. White desired that further questions be asked of the
British. It was my frank opinion that nothing should be done at once. I
made this point at the morning meeting since Mr. Knoke was to call the Bank
of England around noon and might obtain for us some information of interest.
At the second meeting, I let the group know what information Mr. Knoke had
given me at 12:55 with respect to his call which had just been terminated.
Mr. Knoke has today provided me with a transcript (dated November 9) of that
conversation, from which I reproduce the pertinent paragraph:
"I called Mr. Bolton at 12:40 today. We had had a very hectic
market, I told him, with sterling opening at 3.86, dropping to 3.77
and then recovering to the present rate of 3.82. Selling for Rumanian
account had continued with about $700,000 in the market this morning,

which were left over from yesterday's orders. In addition, selling

orders seemed to have been received from South America and from the

Far East; Japanese selling seemed to be drying up. Buying had almost
been absent for awhile. Belton inquired whether there had been any

selling from Brazil. I replied 'Not to my knowledge, but why did he

ask. He replied that they understood that the Brasilians had come
into possession of sterling recently. 'I don't know whether we can
do anything much about the market, Bolton continued. As regards the
Rumanian selling, they were going to take the matter up with Rumania.

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175

I suggested that this selling might have to do with the British
credit of May of this year but Bolton refused to think so. I stated

that the market here certainly was disturbed and completely upset; that
in a normal market today's selling would have been absorbed but in prevailing circumstances the result had been a break in the rate. This
seemed to me unfortunate because I still believed that the selling was

of a temporary character and that with a little buying the situation

could have been corrected in a hurry. Bolton asked how much sterling,
in my opinion, was still hanging over the market and I suggested that
might be in the neighborhood of $400,000. Bolton simply thanked me for
the information. He could tell me nothing new at all as to conditions
in Europe; Holland seemed to be getting worse. Regarding Belgium, they
had no information today, not having been able to reach Brussels on the
telephone.

Particularly in view of the fact that I had received the above mentioned
information from the Federal Reserve Bank, our fiscal agent, which had appropriately inquired of the Bank of England, I thought nothing further should
be done for the present. I told our group that I thought the British were
still confused themselves in regard to an exchange policy, and that we were giving them information in regard to the New York market to help them formulate their
policy. Seeing such factors as the Japanese selling (following the recent decision of Japan to detach the yen from sterling and to purchase dollars) and the
heavy sale of sterling by Rumania (to complete their acquisition of dollars sufficient to buy gold requested from us) and the new factor of a threatened German
attack through the Netherlands, I counseled patience. The rate improved in the
early afternoon. If a decision should be taken to get some message across to
the British, I thought that the mildest channel would be that which we had already followed, namely, through the Federal Reserve Bank, The next choice would
be through a conversation with Pinsent. I did not want to do anything prior to
consultation with Butterworth who was due to arrive in the middle of the afternoon.

At the meeting with the Secretary, we were instructed that Butterworth's
arrival should be awaited. If the situation then warranted it, we should meet

with Mr. Hanes and decide what steps should be taken. The Secretary was not

willing to give the instructions requested by Mr. White for a line of action in
the Secretary's absence.

After Butterworth arrived and talked with the Secretary, the latter confirmed his decision to take no action now. Sterling has further improved today.

M.R.

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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION

DATE November 10, 1939
TO

Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Coohran

FROM

The foreign exchange market was much quieter with greatly reduced volume in
sterling transactions. In Amsterdam, sterling was quoted between 3.82-1/2 and
3.86-7/16. In New York it opened at 3.85. Shortly after the opening, there was
some small scattered selling and at about 10 o'clock it was quoted at 3.81-3/8,
the low for the day. After that, a demand for sterling appeared and the rate
gradually improved to the high of 3.88-1/2 at about mid-afternoon. Late in the
afternoon there was some selling by Japanese banks and the rate closed at 3.86-3/4.

Sales of sterling by the four reporting banks in New York totaled 1427,000
from the following sources:
By commercial concerns

By foreign banks (Far East and Europe)

Total

L 116,000
L 311,000
L 427,000

Purchases of sterling amounted to 1626,000. as indicated below:
L 220,000
L 406,000
L 626,000

By commercial concerns

By foreign banks (Europe, Far East and South America)

Total

The banks also reported that the British Control purchased sterling amounting

to 157,000 at the official rate of 4.02. All of this sterling represented cotton

bills.

The belga was under great pressure today and closed at the low of .1608 as

compared to yesterday's close of . 1643.

The closing quotations of the other important currencies for yesterday and

today are listed below for comparison:

November 9

November 10

French france
Guilders
Swiss france

.0218-1/4

.0219-1/4

.5308
.2242

.5308

Canada

11-1/2% dis.

13-1/2% dis.

.2242

CONFIDENT

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The Federal Reserve Bank received approximately $85,000 for the account of

Bank of Brazil. The Brasilian bank requested that this amount be converted
into gold under the agreement of July 15. 1937. We have now sold to Brazil a
the

total of $6,085,000 in gold under this agreement.

Ye purchased the following amounts of gold from the earmarked accounts of the
banks indicated:

$15,040,000 from the Bank of France

5,730,000 from the National Bank of Belgium

3,500,000 from the Netherlands Bank
$24,270,000 Total

The Federal Reserve Bank reported to us a shipment of $835,000 from England,

consigned to the National City Bank of New York, for sale to the U. S. Assay Office
at New York.

I talked with Mr. Knoke this forenoon and again this evening in regard to the
belga. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has today received from the National

Bank of Belgium a cabled inquiry in regard to assistance from the Federal in
arranging freight and insurance on between 9 and 10 million dollars of gold, the
gold to be moved from British ports and the insurance to be in U. S. dollars.
The Federal is working on this.

The equivalent of today's London spot silver price was 40.66 and the forward
price, 40.45 Handy and Harman's price for foreign silver remained unchanged at
34-3/44. The Treasury's price was also unchanged at 35
In New York we made three purchases of silver totaling 150,000 ounces under
the Silver Purchase Act. We also purchased 120,000 ounces of silver from Canada
under our regular monthly agreement.

B.M.P.

CONFIDENTIAL

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178

INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE November 13, 1939
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Cochran

The foreign exchange market was small with the rates for several currencies
showing improvement. On Friday, sterling closed in this market at 3.86-3/4, and on

Saturday it was quoted in Amsterdam at 3.87-1/2. This morning the Amsterdam

quotation was 3.88-5/16. At the opening here, the rate was 3.88-1/8; as some
small scattered buying appeared, it gradually improved to 3.94-1/2 at about noon

time. After that, there was very little interest in sterling and the rate receded
to close at 3.93-1/8.

Sales of sterling by the four reporting banks in New York totaled 4466,000

from the following sources:

By commercial concerns

1221,000

By foreign banks (Europe, Far East and South America)

275,000

Total

4466,000

Purchases of sterling amounted to 667,000, as indicated below:
By commercial concerns

By foreign banks (Europe, South America and Far East)
Total

$301,000
1326,000

667,000

The banks also reported that the British Control purchased sterling amount-

ing to 128,000 at the official rate of 4.02. All of this sterling represented

cotton bills,

The French franc and the Canadian dollar both recovered some of the loss
sustained by those currencies last week. The belga, which was under heavy

pressure the latter part of last week, recovered to about the approximate gold
import point. This recovery probably was due to increased purchasing of belgas by
the Belgien Control.

Some idea of the tremendous pressure on the guilder can be gathered from
the amount of gold released today by the Netherlands Bank in order to provide
dollars in support of the Dutch exchange.

The closing quotations for the important currencies, exclusive of sterling,

for November 10 and today are as follows:

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French france
Guilders
Swiss france
Belgas

Canadian dollar

179

November 10

November 13

.0219-1/4

.0223-1/4

.5308
.2242
.1608

13-1/4% disc.

.5310
.2243
.1637

12-5/8% disc.

The Bank for International Settlements cabled to the Federal Reserve Bank
of New York to apply for licenses to transfer approximately $562,000 in gold
from its Account No. 2 to its Account No. 4, and $985,000 from its Account No. 3
to its Account No. 2. Account No. 2 is the B.I.S.'s own account, Account No. 3
represents gold owned by the National Bank of Hungary and Account No. 4 is gold

owned by the Central Bank of Turkey. Permission to make the transfers requested
vas granted. The transfer of $562,000 to Account No. 4 represents the sale by

the B.I.S. to Turkey of gold which is, in turn, held by the B.I.S. as collateral
for commercial credits granted by it to the Central Bank of Turkey. The transfer
of $985,000 in all probability, represents the sale of gold by the National Bank
of Hungary to the B.I.S., or may be payment in liquidation of obligations owed

by the Hungarian bank to the B.I.S.

We purchased the following amounts of gold from the earmarked accounts of
the banks indicated:

$24,500,000 from the Netherlands Bank

10,000,000 from the National Bank of Switzerland
1,785,000 from the National Bank of Belgium
350,000 from the Bank of the Republic, Colombia

$36,635,000 Total

We received, through the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, a request from

the National Bank of Rumania to purchase $5,688,000 in gold to be added to its
earmarked account, which request was approved.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York informed us of the following gold
shipments:

$2,248,000 from England, consigned to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, for

account of the National Bank of Switzerland, the disposition of which
is unknown at the present time.
50,000 from England, consigned to Brown Bros. & Co., New York, for sale to
the U. S. Assay Office at New York.

$2,298,000

We have received cable advice from the American Consul at Sydney, Australia,
that the following amounts of gold have been invoiced for shipment to this country:
$5,100,000 shipped by the Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Sydney, consigned to
the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
389,000 shipped by the Bank of New South Wales, consigned to the American Trust
Company, San Francisco.
$5,489,000 Total

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It is assumed that these shipments of gold will be sold to the U. S. Mint at

San Francisco.

The equivalent of today's London spot silver price was 41.03 and the
forward price, 40.82 Handy and Harman's price for foreign silver remained
unchanged at 34-3/44. The Treasury's price was also unchanged at 35
In New York, we made three purchases of silver totaling 250,000 ounces

under the Silver Purchase Act.

I'm.

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November 13, 1939

Welles' 1tr advising HM, Jr of message from Colombia

that Dr. Jaramillo has been designated as representative
of Colombian government and is due to arrive in NY today.
Jaramillo told American Amb that upon his arrival in DC
he would try to reach settlement of Colombia's foreign
debt held iN US on basis of 3% interest payments with
provision that such payments will be increased to 4% over
period of years

THISLLETTER IS FILED AS OF 11/22/39, 10mam, date of

meeting in HM,Jr's office and is attachment to transcript of that meeting

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PLAIN
HSM

London

Dated November 13, 1939

Rec'd 11:05 a. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2355, November 13, 4 p. m.
FOR TREASURY.

1. With reference to paragraph 4 of my 2327 of
November 10 the actual rate of the Friday tender was

61.3s.4.66d. Applications totalled 695.5 million indicating a slight falling off in outside demand. Though
during the last war doubtless higher totals of bills
WERE sold in a WEEK OVER the counter (weekly tenders
were discontinued bEtwEEn 1915 and 1921), next WEEK'S

offer for L65 million of bills represents a record for
a WEEKLY tender offering and will be 135 million in EXCESS

of maturities bringing the total tender bill issue to
6630 million on November 18.

2. Except for a further depreciation of the belga
which was fixed 24.50-80 on Saturday there have been no

changes in the official rates since my 2327 of November 10.
KENNEDY

KLP

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GRAY

HSM

London

Dated November 13, 1939

Rec'd 1:02 D. m.

Secretary of State,
Washington.

2342, Thirteenth.
FOR TREASURY.

Invoices certified tenth and thirteenth covering
108,702 fine OUNCES gold, value 913109 pounds as follows:

National City Bank, London, to same NEW York 23,725 fine

ounces price 168 shillings fine ounce; Bank of England,
London, to Federal RESERVE Bank, NEW York, 84,977 fine
OUNCES same price, by PRESIDENT HARDING fifteenth.
KENNEDY
DDM

03/13039
prot

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED

FROM: American Embassy, Paris

NO.: 2736
DATE: November 13, 1939, 3 p.m.
FOR TREASURY

Last evening we had dinner alone with our friend,

Professor Rist. He told us that the Franco-British
blockade is working in a smooth and satisfactory manner.
He confirmed reports which have been current recently
that the blockade will be extended to German exports as

well as imports into Germany. He said that although it
was his feeling that in reality the only thing which
the neutrals would be giving up would be their profits
as intermediaries, the mechanics of putting into operation a blockade of this kind on exports would be rather
"delicate". He said that it was extremely important, on
the other hand, that all possible sources of foreign
exchange be shut off from Germany and that they prevent
any chances from being offered which would enable Germany

to increase her imports, through exports, from countries
on the continent which are still open to her, for which
imports Germany would not otherwise be able to make payment.
He

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He stated that frankly he was not optimistic with
reference to French exports. He emphasized, as has been

done in recent telegrams from us, that a heavy burden
has fallen on the French economy as a result of the general mobilization and by reason of the fact that the

military authorities are loath to release citizens to
supply the demands for labor and in particular technical
and executive personnel, which are 80 necessary to the

functioning of the export industries of France. The
present discouraged attitude of most of the exporters
is also occasioned by difficulties and lengthy delays

in obtaining permits for raw material imports, and the

lack of transport facilities.
Professor Rist said that for the present he is not
greatly worried regarding payments for French purchases

abroad. He believes, however, that it is very important

to keep the franc from sliding; he feels that this can
be readily done. If the franc were to fall, lack of oonfidence and excessive inflation would be the result, which
in turn would cause the financing of the war to be much

more difficult, would, of course, increase the cost of
war supplies from abroad, would cause leaks in the closed

capital circuit which would be very hard to eliminate.
Although he stated frankly that he had been too much
occupied

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occupied with his own work to stay in close touch with
financial questions, he foresaw no serious trouble in

financing the war internally. Like our Bank-of-France
friend, he believes the treasury bills and bonds to be
a great deal sounder than advances directly from the
Bank of France to the government; of course, too, they
nearly as

are not/apt to be inflated excessively; in this connection, and referring to our friend at the Bank of France,
see telegram 1780 of September 4, 1939, 7 p.m. The ef-

fect isn't inflationary seriously, to the extent of
armament bonds, as well as other government issues, being

actually taken up out of savings by the public--this is
a distinction from Government loans which are financed

by banks through loans to customers either directly or
indirectly.
The British, he continued, are trying in every way

possible to pay in sterling, rather than in dollars, for
making their war purchases and buying their imports; this
is being done either through clearing arrangements or

through diverting trade, wherever possible, to the sterling area. Although he did not question the soundness
of the policy he made a statement to the effect that
more than any other thing the British are afraid of
being put in the same position, which they were in after
the World War, in respect to the U.S.
We

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In answer to our inquiry as to whether he had thought
much yet about war aims and reconstruction after this war,
he stated frankly that he has had hardly any time to
think about anything other than his blockade problems,
Great
he has been so busy with them. However, that/Britain
and France agree completely as is possible on their war

aims before this war ends is of the greatest importance.

It is his opinion that political and economic questions
should be separated as far as is possible. He 18 in
favor of a very liberal treatment to a defeated German
nation in regard to the economic side; of course, he
assumed that the war aims of the Allies are of no con-

sequence, in a practical way, if they are defeated.
In his own thoughts he hasn't come to any conclusion

regarding the answer to the political side. As do others,
he believes that no solution to the German problem can be

found in splitting up their country and separating them;
nor does he believe that there will be a sufficient evolution in their character over a visible future era to change
them into neighbors that can be trustworthy and friendly.
He has not yet come to a conclusion as to whether or not
he favors the French frontier to be set on the Rhine River.
Many French circles appear to be forming a firm conviction

that France should insist on a Rhine frontier for their
future security. Professor Rist said events in recent
years

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years had shaken his former opposition to such a frontier.
He does, however, fear that the Nazi ruse of calling on
allies to help prevent Bolshevization of Germany and
Europe may be successful eventually. Certain quarters,

particularly in Great Britain, and even in France might
rally in the future to an appeal of this nature, he believes.
We are passing on, for whatever consideration it may

be worth, an interesting story which he told us about the
last interview in Moscow of the Foreign Minister of Turkey:
his patience being exhausted after his very long and inactive
sojourn in Moscow, the Foreign Minister of Turkey requested
Molotov for a farewell interview; Stalin entered the room
during the Minister's interview with Molotov and gave a
piece of paper to Sarajoglou; on the sheet of paper the
following sentence was written: Turkey must close the

Straits to warships of France and Great Britain. (Prof.
Rist was told this story by one of his associates in the
Ohoman Bank, who is a personal friend of the Turkish

Foreign Minister; he had personally heard this account

from Sarajoglou himself.) The Turkish Foreign Minister
replied no to Stalin very firmly. Then Stalin handed him
another paper stating that Turkey must be an ally to Russia
and Germany, to which Sarajoglou replied no again. At
that Stalin tore up both of the papers which he had handed

to Sarajoglou; and, turning to leave the room, Stalin

smiled

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smiled at Sarajoglou and said the following words: You
are right; a long-standing friendship is of more worth
than a few torn pieces of paper.
BULLITT

PER

EA:MSG

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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED
FROM:

American Embassy, Paris

DATE:

November 13, 1939, 7 p.m.

NO.:

2742.

PERSONAL AND STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL FOR THE
SECRETARY AND THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY.

Our no. 2736, November 13, 3 p.m.

Matthews was informed last evening by Rist that
there was one vulnerable spot in the German armor-molybdenum. Rist said he understood molybdenum to

be essential to the manufacture of armaments and

shells. He also understood that although it is to
be presumed that Germany has sufficient stock to

meet present needs it cannot last forever. He said
that the United States produces far more than any
other country in the world (approximately 92.5 percent

of world production for 1938; 85 percent of this
was produced by (?) molybdenum company -- Minerals
Year Book, 1939) .

The French blockade authorities have had recent

information that Russia is making preparations for
near-future purchases from us of substantial amounts
for transshipment to Germany (according to the Year
Book we export from 50 to 75 percent of production

annually, although there is no separate classification
for this in our trade statistics). He wondered
whether the United States needs of molybdenum for
national

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national defense purposes were great enough to

require embargoing exports of this metal; of course
he greatly hoped that this would be the case.)
Rist added that France might also be in need of
supplies of molybdenum which might possibly be purchased

immediately from us. (The other major producers are
Mexico, Morocco and Norway in the order of their
appearance. ) He stated that in any event it would be
impossible for him to overestimate the importance

from the standpoint of the allies of preventing arrival of
molybdenum in Germany. He further stated (as in

telegram 2571, October 24, 6 p.m.) that fats, oils
and forage likewise are recognized weaknesses in the
war economy of Germany and he hoped only small
amounts of these materials would reach Germany. END MESSAGE
BULLITT

03V13038
eeer

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LORD, DAY & LORD
25 BROADWAY

CABLE ADDRESS

LORDATTY

NEW YORK

-

NEW YORK

CUNARD BUILDING

WASHINGTON OFFICE
SOUTHERN BUILDING

November 13, 1939.

The President,
The White House,
Washington, D. C.

My dear Mr. President

In response to your recent request for information
on the subject of possible tax changes which would assist in
the production of increased revenue, I am enclosing herewith
a memorandum, marked A, discussing a number of discriminations

the elimination of which would result in substantial additional
revenue. How much additional revenue would be forthcoming can

be determined only by expert Treasury computations. With the
thought that you may wish these computations, I am taking the
liberty of enclosing a suggested memorandum from you to the

Treasury with an attached list of questions marked A-1 keyed to
Memorandum A.

In view of the time pressure upon you, I have prepared
& shorter memorandum marked C summarizing Memorandum A point by
point.

Memorandum A does not attempt any discussion of the

obviously advisable expedient of raising (a) the income surtax

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The President

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brackets on incomes between $5,000 and $50,000, and (b) the es-

tate tax brackets on medium-sized estates. Nor does it deal
with some other suggestions which have been made to me, as for

instance, (1) the suggestion that the earned income credit
be discontinued for incomes over $10,000 (which might reasonably

yield an additional 7.5 million of revenue) and (2) the suggestion that the tax on life insurance companies must be too
low because in recent years such corporations have paid less

than half a million dollars in Federal income taxes. Both
these suggestions need further consideration.

While the matter of estimated yield can be finally
estimated only by Treasury statisticians, I have been advised

that an annual yield of 90 million dollars may be expected
from suggestion 1 in Memorandum A and 40 million from suggestion

25. I have been told that suggestion 13 should yield over 30
million dollars. Many of the remaining suggestions would
produce additional revenue sufficient, in combination with a
reasonable excess profits tax and increase of lower surtax
and medium estate tax brackets, to raise the additional revenue
you have in mind without the necessity of imposing any socalled
luxury or sales tax.

I am proceeding with the preparation of a memorandum

on an excess profits tax which will incorporate the essential

details of your general plan for such a tax. You will receive
this memorandum in a day or so.

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The President

The existing revenue statutes involve a number of
unsound provisions resulting in hardship upon taxpayers, and

I think that any general modification should be a "two-way

street* in that it should seek also to eliminate these defects.
In line with this thought I also enclose a separate memorandum,
marked B, itemizing some, but by no means all, of these

points of taxpayer dissatisfaction which you may want to
forward to the Treasury in order to secure an authoritative
estimate of the loss of revenue which may be involved therein. A covering memorandum to the Treasury is enclosed as a

matter of convenience if you should desire to secure this
information; to this memorandum is attached a list of questions marked B-1 keyed to Memorandum B.

I am sorry that the enclosed memoranda could not
have been confined to fewer pages. But taxes seem an in-

evitably complicated subject, and it seems inadvisable to
attempt to deal with the points involved without covering
the refinements reflected in the enclosed memoranda. It
should also be added that all figures used for proposed

rates and limitations are entirely tentative.
It may be that Treasury officials should be
advised by you at an early date that you contemplate the pos-

sibility of changes in the tax laws so that they will not
inadvertently embarrass your plans by premature statements

on the Hill or to the public.

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The President

4

I shall be only too happy to serve you further in
any way you desire.

Respectfully yours,
REP:JK

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MEMORANDUM OF TRANSMITTAL

OF A AND A-1

TO:

Honorable Henry Morgenthau

Secretary of the Treasury

FROM: The White House

I transmit to you herewith a copy of a memorandum
marked A prepared by Mr. Randolph E. Paul, whom I have

consulted with respect to possibilities of securing additional revenue by the elimination of various discriminations contained in the statutes covering the taxation
of income, estates and gifts as now enacted. I would
like to have from you an estimate of the revenues which
would reasonably be derived from Mr. Paul's suggestions.
For your convenience I enclose a memorandum of specific
questions keyed to Mr. Paul's memorandum, marked A-1.

I realize that some of these questions will be
difficult to answer in categorical terms. Where the question deals with suggestions of a tentative nature, I will
be obliged if you will make your answers as definite 8.8
may be possible under the circumstances.

MEMORANDUM A

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MEMORANDUM OF POSSIBLE CHANGES IN THE TAX
LAW WHICH WOULD INCREASE REVENUE BY THE

ELIMINATION OF DISCRIMINATIONS
INCOME TAX

1. Personal Exemptions
2. Stock Dividends
3. Trust Income

4. Unreasonable Accumulations of Surplus

5. Charitable Gifts in Form of Property

6. Non-Business Casualty Losses
7. Interest on Non-Business Loans

8. Deduction of Interest Paid or Accrued

9. Non-Business Bad Debts
10. Non-Business Taxes

11. Basis Where Optional Valuation Privilege Is Chosen
2. Taxation of Husband and Wife

13. Taxation of Interest from State Obligations
14. Taxation of Capital Gains

5. Corporate Distributions of March 1, 1913 Profits
6. Life Insurance Proceeds Paid in Installments
17. Double Loss Deductions

8. Property Transmitted at Death
9. Domestic Building and Loan Associations

20. Mutual Casualty and Fire Insurance Companies

21. Employers Contributions to Pension Trusts
2. Discovery Value and Percentage Depletion
3. Development Expense
14. Taxation of Non-Resident Alien Individuals and Foreign Corporations
ESTATE TAX

5. Estate Tax Exemptions

26. Taxation of Life Insurance
7. Property Passing under Powers of Appointment
8. Reverter Interests

2. Gifts in Contemplation of Death
0. Elimination of Estate Tax Against Insurance Proceeds by
Reason of Uncollectible Claims
GIFT TAX

31, Gift Tax Exemptions