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BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM

For release in morning newspapers
of Saturday, May 9, 1936.




ADDRESS OF
CHAIRMAN MARRINER S. ECCLES
AT THE
CONFERENCE ON
DEBT, TAXATION AND INFLATION
SEVENTH ANNUAL WHARTON INSTITUTE
OF
THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
SPONSORED BY
THE ALUMNI AND FACULTY OF
THE WHARTON SCHOOL OF FINANCE AND COMMERCE
HELD AT THE WALDORF-ASTORIA
NE?/ YORK CITY
FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 8, 1936

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THE THEORY AND PROGRESS OF THE RECOVERY PROGRAM

The Problem in 19S5
As one who has followed with keen interest the comprehensive program
adopted three years agi> to bring about recovery, I should like to attempt to
explain my understanding of developments since it was adopted, and how, in
my view, it may achieve and maintain the complete restoration which we all
desire.
Let me first direct your attention to the conditions prevailing in 1932
end early 1933, and to that most fundamental of all economic data, the national
income.

The national income, which was estimated at more than #80 billions in

1929, had shrunk to half that amount by 1932.

The annual buying power and debt-

paying capacity of the community, therefore, had been reduced by more than $40
billions.

The problem of recovery was to raise that national income to above

its 1929 level, which could only be brought about by the government undertaking
activities and expenditures which private enterprise was not in a position to
undertake. How could it be accomplished?
Leaving aside plans which involved fundamental and far-reaching changes
in our whole economic organization, the solutions offered to the country in
1933 were of two main types.

On the one hand there were those who contended

that all that was needed was the restoration of confidence.

They insisted that

it was essential to balance the budget; that the gold standard must be retained
at all costsj that no legislation disturbing to business should be enacted.
On the other hand there were those who, like myself, felt that recovery in
the present situation could only be achieved by bold and aggressive intervention
by the government, largely through underpinning the entire private credit
structure which had collapsed, and undertaking to restore purchasing power



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through relief, public expenditures and other measures.
I think the hope of success by the former method rested on faith rather
than logic.

After all, a budgetary surplus did not prevent the downturn in

1929; a balanced budget in 1950 did not prevent an acceleration of the de­
cline.

Not only were we on the gold standard in those years, but gold was

flooring in steadily.

Efforts to balance the budget in 1931 and 1952, maintenance

of the gold standard, and the absence of reform legislation, did not prevent
us from descending to lower and yet lower economic depths.

What reason was

there for thinking that factors which failed to prevent or check the downturn
would in themselves lead to an upturn?
The Question of Confidence
Looking at this question of confidence a little more closely, let us try
to see exactly what conditions are necessary for its establishment.

With the

national buying power cut in half the demand for goods of all kinds was re­
duced accordingly.

Industry as a whole possessed more than enough equipment

to satisfy the current demand.
a3 these?

What does confidence mean in conditions such

Does it not mean confidence that increased expenditure on plant,

equipment and inventory will be profitable? What business man would have added
to his plant, when he already possessed a great amount of excess capacity,
merely because he read that the budget had been balanced?

It is difficult

to understand why people would be expected to invest money in new enterprise
when existing investments were becoming less profitable every day.

It should

not require any great insight to understand that e reduction of government ex­
penditures while everybody else as a matter of self-protect!on was being forced
to reduce expenditures, could only accentuate the orocesses of deflation by re-




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ducing buying power.

An increase in tax rates at such a time would have had a

deflationary effect to the extent that they reduced expenditures that otherwise
would be made, and would consequently have yielded little, if any, additional
revenue.
A belief that industry would have voluntarily entered upon capital ex­
penditures in 1953 if the government had restricted its expenditures and raised
taxes is unrealistic to the highest degree.

It displays an utter miscomprehension

of the considerations that influence a business man in planning expenditures.
There must be reason to believe that capital expenditures can be profitably
m«de before they are undertaken.

This profitable outlook existed at the bottom

of the depression in but few industries, such as brewing, distilling snd gold
mining.

In these industries plant expenditures actually occurred and an

abundance of capital was readily available.

Why? Because there was confidence,

that is, an expectation that funds could be profitably invested in these in­
dustries, which hod been renewed by repeal of prohibition and the premium on
gold.
What wrs the opportunity generally throughout the country for profitable
investment in new enterprise?

Throughout industry there was excess capacity in

relation to consumer buying power, nor was there any inducement for residential
construction so long as it was cheaper to rent or buy then it was to build.




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The Theory of the Recovery Program
Obviously, what was needed to absorb excess capacity generally was an
increased demand arising from increased consumer buying power.
seoms to me, is the crux of the matter.

And here, it

Increased demand could come about

only as a result of increased incomes; and increased incomes depended upon
increased disbursements by industry or by government or by both.

As far as

industry was concerned, it was being forced, in self-preservation, to reduce
wages and expenditures of all kinds, thus rapidly increasing the number of
unemployed, further shrinking consumer buying power and accelerating the de­
flationary forces which threatened complete collapse of the entire credit
structure.
The only alternative, under the circumstances, was intervention by govern­
ment.

Only in this way was it possible to arrest the forces of deflation by

bringing about on increase in incomes end hence an increase in the demand for
goods and services of all kinds, through increasing disbursements financed
initially by borrowings rather then by taxes.

Those of us who advocated this

course believed then en increase in incomes brought about in this way would
lerd to an increase in the demend for goods.
wages end materials in making thepe goods.

Industry would pay out more in
These payments would result in

further incrersed demands until finally the stage would be reached when here
end there individual business men would see some point in taking up deferred
maintenance, in adding to plmt or venturing to establish a new type of service
or industry.

Here and there it would become profitable to build new houses

as the demand for houses, end consequently rents, rose.




As this process pro­

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ceeded, we anticipated that tax revenues would increase as incomes increased,
and the gap between expenditures and receipts would gradually close.

A little

later the whole burden of the recovery movement could rest on increasing busi­
ness and individual expenditures and the Federal Government could not only
balance the budget, but could begin to retire the debt built up in the depres­
sion.

The expenditures of the Federal Government can be fully justified solely

on humanitarian grounds— on the urgent necessity of relieving the home owners
and the farmers, who were about to lose their homes and their farms, and aiding
the great army of unemployed who were destitute and helpless through no fault
of their own.

However, I feel that the expenditures are fully justified as a

means of achieving business recovery.
Has the Program Been Successful to Date?
Has the economic philosophy of the past three years which I have attempted
to outline fulfilled reasonable expectations?
The answer is to be found by looking without bias at the results to
date.

On the debit side we should put the gross increase in the Federal debt

from $20,935,000,000 on February 28, 1935, to $51,459,000,000 on March 51,
1956, and the continuing large number of unemployed, many of whom are dependent
on relief.

Neither of these adverse factors is as unfavorable as most of the

business end financial community have been led to believe.

Against the in­

crease in the debt must be offset the increase in the Treasury’s cash balance
from $2 2 1 ,000,000 to $2 ,866,000,000 in the some period (exclusive of the
Stabilization Fund), and an increase in the recoverable assets of Government
agencies from an estimated $2,400,000,000 to $4,300,000,000, largely in the
Reconstruction Finance Corporation which was used very largely to support directly



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the banking and private credit structure. So that this leaves a net increase
in the national debt of $5,979,000,000, which is less than a month's national
income in 1928-1929.

The annual interest charge on the Federal debt as com­

puted at the end of March, 19S6, increased by only 8 percent over the end of
March, 1933.

This may be compared with an increase in the gross debt of 50

percent in the same period.

The total carrying charges amount to a little

over 1 percent of our current national income, not, I think you will admit,
an excessive burden.
In considering the continuing heavy volume of unemployment, it should be
remembered that there were 2,000,000 to 2,500,000 of unemployed prior to the
depression, and that the number of people seeking work has increased since then
by 3,500,000 to 4,000,000, due to the increase in the number of those reaching
employment age.

The lack of employment in many cases of the principal bread­

winner of the fr-milv is also responsible for other members of the family, who
would not ordinarily be employed, seeking employment.

More important th8 n these

considerations, however, is the fact thst millions of workers who were formerly
working only one or two days a week and yet were listed as employed are now
working four and five.

The increase in men hows worked, in other words, has

been much greater than the increese in the number of men working.

The intro­

duction of labor-saving machinery has doubtless also played its part.
not scying that the employment situation is at all satisfactory.

T cm

I am merely

saying that the nrogress has been far more substantial than appears at first
sight.

Because of the vcrious factors I have just mentioned, the burden of

relief has not diminished correspondingly with the increase in employment.
As recovery proceeds, we can, of course, expect relief expenditures to diminish.



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Income. Production end Restoration of Money Supply
On the favorable side of the recovery program to date, I would stress
particularly the rise in the national income and production, the restoration
of the supply of money, increasing tax revenues, and the rise in building
activity.
Although current direct estimates are not available, it would appear from
other evidence that the national income is running currently about 60 billions
a year as contrasted with approximately 40 billions in 1932.

The index of

production has risen from 58 percent to 94 percent of its 1923-25 level.

The

supply of deposits of all commercial banks rose from $27,000,000,000 on June
30, 1933, to $37,000,000,000 on December 31, 1935, or about the pre-depression
level, so thet the contraction in the money supply which occurred as a result
of deflation has been largely offset.

This replenishing of bank deposits is

chiefly attributable to the increase in bank holdings of government securities
and to the inflow of gold.

It is directly attributable, in other words, to

the relief and recovery expenditures of the government and indirectly at­
tributable to the revaluation of gold, which was a necessary condition for the
reversal of the international flow of capital.

In the absence of government

borrowing end the revaluation of gold no progress would have been made toward
a restoration of the community’s supply of purchasing power, since private
loans end investments of banks continued to decline until 1935.

It is en­

couraging to note that recovery is bringing about some increase in the demand
for an extension of private credit by the benking system.




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Progress Toward a Balanced Budget
Turning to government revenues, the trend is most reassuring.
calendar year 1932 they amounted to #1,380,000,000.

In the

In 1935, despite the non­

payment of part of the processing taxes, they amounted to $3,857,000,000, an
increase of nearly $2 billions. With bonus payments met and a revision in
taxes enacted, this favorable trend should be accelerated so that we would have
every reason to expect a balanced budget within a reasonable period.

Balancing

the budget through increasing taxes or decreasing expenditures, or both, as the
national income is restored, is an absolutely indispensable element in the
eventual end complete success of a program of recovery requiring government
intervention which entails large deficit-financing.
Orderly Character of the Recovery Movement
Finally, I would stress the increasing activity in the heavy industries
and in building construction.

During 1934 and 1935 it was constantly said that

the deficit-financing experiment had been a failure because heavy industry and
building construction had not picked up substantially.

Such criticism dis­

played e misconception of the necessary sequence of events.

First, the process

of forced liquidation, caused by deflation, had to be stemmed.

Second, the de­

mand for consumer goods had to be greatly increased before there could possibly
be cny inducement for corporations or individuals to add to productive capital
facilities to provide more goods and services.

Third, long-term interest rates

hcd to be brought down to encourage and make profitable the use of capital for
new enterprise, ond to adjust, through refunding, e substantial portion of the
existing debt structure on a supportable basis.




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In the real estate field liquidation had to be stopped and rents had to
rise, this together, with lowered interest rates, bringing about a reopening of
the mortgage market.

All of these necessary steps took time.

They could not

have been accomplished in a much shorter space of time considering the depth of
the depression and the immensity of the problems thus created.

For more than a

year the improvement of underlying conditions has become increasingly steady and
orderly in charscter.

The ground has been well prepared.

has been increased by some SO percent.

The national income

Industry and finance have been enabled

by the recovery program to improve greatly their financial position through
increased earnings, adjustment and reduction of debts and refunding on more
favorable terms.

Favorable long-term interest rates are available for financing

in practically every field of activity.

Rents have risen, hence real estate

values have increased, making it again profitable to increase building construc­
tion.

Excess capacity in nearly every field of production is rapidly

diminishing.

The index of commodity prices has remained steady for more than

a year.
The Present Phase of the Recovery Movement
The present phase of the recovery movement is a most important one.
Will the disbursements of private business end individuals increase sufficiently
to warrant a lessening of the government’s contribution to the growth in the
nations! income?

It is encouraging to note that activity in the housing field

is rapidly increasing; capital financing is gradually being undertaken for new
enterprise; an expansion of private credit on the part of the banking system is
in evidence; activity in the machine tool, industrial equipment and heavy in­
dustries reflects substantial improvement.



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Barring unforeseen contingencies, the present improvement should continue.
The outlook at the moment is very encouraging.
Conclusion
The Federal Government cannot and should not decrease its expenditures
on recovery faster than private industry is able profitably to take over the
load.

To do so would reduce consumer buying power and thus retard, if not

reverse, the progress of recovery.
The flow of money must be maintained and increased in an expanding
economy.

If private capital fails to maintain and expand the flow, and

widespread unemployment exists or develops, government must act as a compensatory
factor.
Purchasing power can only be maintained by private business as a whole
disbursing its income, or insofar as it fails to do so, by government expendi­
ture either on the basis of deficit-financing, or by taxing in such a way as to
insure the flow of funds that individuals and corporations otherwise would ac­
cumulate and maintain in idle balances, so that socially beneficial work will
be provided for those who are able and willing to work but for whom private
enterprise fails to provide.
I am sure that we will all agree that our objective should be the
maintenance of long-term prosperity end the avoidance of the twin evils of
inflation and deflation.

The attainment of this objective depends not only

upon the effective coordination of monetary and fiscal policies, but slso upon
en enlightened body of public opinion.