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REMARKS OF CHAIRMAN G. WILLIAM MILLER
before the ABA Leadership Conference
April 27, 1978
Thank you very much.

I am delighted to be here.

You

didn't mention that not only did I get my education in California,
but I was also nominated to the Federal Reserve from California.

If

I hadn't had that education or lived a few years in California, I
might not have been eligible.

So I am here from Providence, Rhode

Island, Washington, D.C., California, Texas, and from a few other
places.

It helps in getting through the Senate to have lived in

enough places, you know.

I never lived in Wisconsin!

I was pleased to accept the invitation to be he~e, but I
said I really thought it would be a waste of time for me to talk to
the bankers.

I am delighted to see their spouses, because now I

know I am talking to the real powers in the nation: that is why I
came.

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If that were not the case, I would have stayed at home.

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I am delighted to talk to those who really decide what makes the

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world go round.

I have two objectives today.

One is to give you a few

observations which might stimulate your thinking; and the other is
to open this session up for questions, so that I can respond to
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concerns that are on your mind and issues of interest to you.
There are three areas of interest to me now that I am in
the Federal Reserve.

The first is the economic area: monetary

management and how it relates to our national goals of full employment, price stability, and growth.

The second area of interest is,

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of course, the banking system: new technologies, new trends, new
demands.

I'm interested in a banking system that will work efficiently

in the 1980's and the 1990's and that will be ready to carry on its
responsibilities in the 21st century.

I'm not interested in perpetu-

ating a banking system of the 40's or the 60's or even the' 70's.

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third area of interest is the internal operations of the Federal
Reserve: we have an obligation to run that institution efficiently,
and as effectively and as responsively as we can, and to use our
resources wisely and well and with a standard of excellence--as an
institution second to none, private or public.
I'll just take off now on a few items that might be of
interest to you.

I don't think there is time for me to exhaust even

the few subjects I'd like to mention, but I will make some connnents
about them.

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One is automatic transfers; I think that's a subject

that may be of interest to you .

You may know that proposals have

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been kicking around for several years and that earlier this year,
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before I became chairman, a proposal was reissued for conunent.
There were more connnents submitted on that particular proposal
than on any other proposal the Federal Reserve has ever made.
That reflects a high degree of interest.

Although it's not uni-

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versally supported, there is an amazing degree of interest in it.
The Board, as you know, has recently considered these connnents at
a public meeting, and has begun to formulate its own views on
whether or not a formal regulation should be adopted.




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the Board will be meeting for that purpose; now that it has been
informed about and digested the views of many, many Americans-both in the private and public sectors and in the banking and
non-banking communities, it will make a decision as to whether
the regulation goes forward or not.

I can't tell you untll Monday

what that decision will be.
The second thing I might mention--it has recently come
to your attention through the press or other media--is that the
Board has decided to go ahead with its inter-regional automatic
clearing house operation by the end of the year.

This was, again,

a matter that was discussed at a public meeting, and so I'm sure
that all of the details of our decision-making are known to you.
But the most interesting aspect of that particular decision involved
some disagreement within the Board on the matter of pricing.

I

believe that the sentiment around the Board is fairly universal in
favor of the Federal Reserve's providing a mechanism to move us
forward in the use of technologies and the modernization of the
payments system.

What we disagreed on was whether or not we should

charge for that service.

The final vote was 3 to 2 in favor of a

commitment, at the earliest practical time, to establish a pricing
mechanism.

This means that we will not provide the service gratis;

that we will find a way to price it such that there will be opportunities for alternative, competing systems to develop; and that
there will be some equity in pricing so that members won't bear the
cost for access to the service for non-members who want to use it.

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-4The third item of interest, which I think the Governing
Council has already discussed--and I bring it up because I have
some degree of disappointment about the resolution approved by the
Council--is the International Banking Act.

I'm well aware, from

what I have heard and read, of your concern about maintaihing the
dual banking system.

My difficulty is that I don't think you have

: realized fully that we don't have a dual banking system.

We have

a tri-level banking system; and we would not be addressing the real,
substantive issues that we need to face unless we recognize that
there is a State banking system, there is a Federal banking system,
and there is an international banking system.

International banks

that want to participate in our domestic dual banking system have
.the choice of forming State banks or Federal banks and State member
banks or State non-member banks, and they can operate like any other
domestic banks.

But what we are seeing is an influx of foreign banks

that are establishing branches on an interstate basis, which an
American bank cannot do, and I think that brings up many issues that
ought to be faced now.

You ought to anticipate what this might lead

to and act more resolutely about the problem before it comes back to
haunt you.
Let me give you the areas of interest to the Federal Reserve.
One is that we fear a lack of adequate supervision.

The State legis-

lators have been very successful in their lobbying effort to maintain
State examination of these branches of foreign banks, but I do not




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-5believe that State bank examiners are equipped to .deal with the
soundness of a banking organization where the parent 'organization
is overseas and has international operations throughout the whole
world.

And I think that if there is to be adequate supervision,

the bank cannot be examined successfully by looking at a

~ranch

within a single state; the soundness of its assets depends upon the
: bank's total structure.

I believe the capacity to evaluate and

deal with that does not exist with the State regulators and I fear
for the outcome.

If we have some bank failures or some problem

banks in this area, it is worth considering the consequences.
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consequences, strangely enough, would be

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regulation for you.

It would be better to place foreign branches under strong supervision from the beginning so that we don't run the risk of any of
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their problems causing a reaction against American banks.
The other thing that concerns me about the Act is the

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fact that the title that would have prohibited inter-state branching
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has been stricken from legislation in the House. We thus have the
prospect of a major banking institution in the United States being

purchased by a foreign bank which then would have a major stake in
our domestic dual banking system.

That same foreign bank would then
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be able to establish branches in all the money centers of the nation
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and to operate an international and national network of banking;
American banks cannot do that.

If we feel the time has come for

interstate branching, I think that's something we ought to put on
the table and discuss directly.

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If our motive is to accomplish it




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-6indirectly--by a creeping process of permitting foreign banks to
do something until we ·can demand the same for America'n banks--1
think we have chosen a poor strategy.

You never know what is going

to happen when you start trying to manipulate to reach indirect and
undisclosed objectives.
A fourth area I might just comment on is regulation
generally.

I'm anxious, and I'm hopeful, that the Federal Reserve

will come forward soon with some kind of zero-based approach to
regulations.

I think the time has come for us to go through the

whole body of Federal Reserve regulations and to modernize and
simplify them and perhaps even write them in English.

I hope that

in the process we can relieve the banking industry of some of the
difficulties of interpretation and some of the burdens of working
through many unnecessary and far too complex regulations.

That's

one objective I hope to accomplish, and apparently it's a popular
idea.

I suppose that I should add that we could cut down your paper-

work; I know you'd like that and so would I.
As a side note, I might just say that there are too many
pieces of paper crossing my desk at the Federal Reserve.

Many

could be handled at some other level; and in many cases we're
dealing with areas in which the banking industry could police .
itself.

I don't want that kind of procedure to continue.
That brings me to my next point; we are actively at work

on a reexamination of the whole area of delegation of authority
within the Federal Reserve.

If we can push more decision making




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is, I think we will become more effective.
responsive to your needs.

We will become more

I'm sure that wouldn't result in any more

mistakes being made than we are now making by trying to do it all in
Washington.

I am hopeful we can evolve a more decentralized system

of decision-making--with some review process to assure that we have
a unified position on policies and actions that affect the banking
industry.

We do want to treat everyone alike, but that we can do on

a decentralized basis.
The sixth item that I want to call to your attention is
very dear to my heart: that's the problem of membership.

I won't tell

you why I think the Federal Reserve should have members.

Maybe some

of you think we shouldn't have any, but I disagree.
any pretty soon if we don't do something.

We may not have

We feel that the time is

ripe to do something that has been put off too long: that is, to take
the self-initiative to address the problem without legislation.

The

elements we see as necessary to alleviating the burden of membership
are rather simple, and I think the program is do-able within the

authorities and responsibilities of the Fed.

The first element that

we need is to provide compensation for the sterile reserves that are
now held.

That compensation should be adequate and as nearly related

to market yields as we can arrive at under the circumstances.

A

second element that goes with that is that the time has come for us
to price our services and to charge for them.

It makes a lot of

sense that those who maintain balances with us should receive returns

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on those balances and those who use our services should pay for them;
that's an equitable arrangement.

Those who use the services pay; those

who have reserves with us receive income.




I'm not sure that that

wouldn't be a good trend for the whole banking industry: to unbundle
services and begin to make a more conscious effort to brihg about a
system that has the characteristics I outlined.

I am sure that that

is the system that will come about in the future, and that it may be
better to chart our

own

destiny rather than to let a system evolve

without direction.
The third element of my program to handle the membership
problem poses a dilenuna that doesn't concern you; but it does concern me.

How will we be able to present to a world subject to the

oversight of Congress and the public, a plan where alleviating the

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burden of membership translates very simply into a large distribution
of money to banks?

How are we going to justify handing out a few

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hundred million dollars to the rich banks?

My program takes money

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away from the Treasury, because all of the earnings of the Federal
Reserve go to the Treasury.

So the third element of the plan is

that we must reimburse the Treasury for its loss during a transition
period.

If we do that, we can certainly expect more cooperation from

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the Administration and from the Congress.
These are the elements that I think are necessary to solve
the membership problem.

And the timetable goes something like this.

By the end of June--at the earliest time we can, but certainly by

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to publish a plan of action giving adequate time for conunents from
everyone.

We will give you a specific plan of how we will pay and

what we will pay as compensation; and how and what we will charge
for services.

You can each figure out the net benefit to· your bank,

and the impact on the Treasury; and the Congress can look at what
we are doing and criticize it.
suggest improvements to us.

Everyone will have a chance to

After having considered those, we hope

to finalize the plan by the end of the year and to put it into
effect by January 1, with a pricing mechanism in place by mid-year.
That is my personal objective: that not later than the first of
July, 1979, we will have in place an effective mechanism for paying
compensation on idle reserves and levying charges for services that
will result in a net distribution to the banking industry.




I can't

guarantee it will happen.
The next item I want to mention very briefly is one that
has, perhaps, been most publicized since 'my seven weeks in Washington:
that is the issue of inflation.

In the fall, when we looked at the

economic outlook, it was the consensus of all well-informed economists
that we would have a certain level of inflation during 1978.

But

there was no body of opinion that could have predicted the increase
in inflationary forces that we've experienced.
perhaps as much as others.

I was surprised,

I could not have predicted, when I was

nominated on December 28, that by the time I was sworn in, on March 8,
there would have been such a change in the outlook for inflation.

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it has become the number one prioritr for me.
economy are proceeding in very good order.

Other aspects of the

As you know, we are

bouncing back very quickly from a first quarter slowdown that was
traced to weather and the coal strike.

We're going to have a very

strong second quarter, and the outlook for continued, moderate
growth is good.

But the inflationary forces are very serious, and

unless we can address them and correct them, we will have some very
difficult times ahead.

That's why I have been so forceful in point-

ing out the problem and also in pointing out a very simple proposition which I hope you will endorse and I hope you will support.

In

fact, I hope you will use your voice and your weight to get the
point across.

That is, that the fight against inflation should not

be left to the Federal Reserve alone.

If it is left solely to the

Federal Reserve we will have very, very difficult problems.

If we

move aggressively to curb inflation through more restrictive policies
we certainly will risk an early downturn in the economy at a time
when our resources are under-utilized.

And a downturn when our

resources are under-utilized means unacceptable levels of unemployment; it means Federal budget deficits that are far too large.

On

the other hand, if we should use the printing presses to keep
inflation funded and financed, then it will grow more, and it will
become so large that an economic downturn won't even be caused by
the Fed; it will be caused by the disinvestment process that
accompanies inflation and high interest rates and by the flight
of capital from risk-taking enterprises.

If that takes place, we

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will have an even worse economic cycle.

The Federal Reserve's

position is a very straightforward one: we'll do our 'part, but
we need every other sector of our society to do its part.

Working

in coordination, working in partnership, we can tackle this problem
and solve it.
better.

If we do, the outlook for our nation has never been

If we do not, the outlook will be very, very dim.
I say to all my friends that we need the support, the

active involvement, of leaders like those in this room.

You repre-

sent the largest cross-section of people I know who carry influence
far beyond your

own

institutions and conmrunities.

You are involved

in the process of extending credit to all Americans.

Therefore,

your world, and your example, and your leadership, is critical.

If

you believe, as I do, that it is going to take a concerted effort,
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then making your voice heard on this issue will have a very powerful
effect.

What's in it for you?

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continue to say that it is all the Government's fault as if the
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Government were separate from the people--then I suppose what we will
get is further inflation and the erosion of the values and the wealth
that we have been trying to build in this nation.

If we are success-

ful in decelerating inflation, in tamping it down on a progressive

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basis of a half of a percent a year until we get it under control,
the dividend will be enormous.

The dividend will be in growth,

employment, wealth, in real incomes going up, and in real profits
going up.

The dividend can be enormous.

The choice is between

getting more now and getting more over the long-term.

I hope you'll

choose to join this fight and to get more over the long-term.