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May 13, 1939.

RECOVERY' M L THa EEJJERAL DEBT
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By

Ernest G. Draper, Member of the Board of Governors
Of The Federal Reserve System

Speaking of the Federal debt, some people say "You
cannot spend your way to prosperity just as you cannot drink
yourself sober".

This sounds convincing.

But is it true?

You can spend your way to prosperity, if you spend with a sound,
long range purpose in mind.

The pages of industrial history

are filled with examples of farseeing executives who developed
a needed product and then went in the red for years before
their heavy advertising and sales promotion campaigns finally
bore fruit in the form of prosperous net profits.
can drink yourself sober— if you only drink water.

Also, you
And some-

what as the human system needs water in order to survive, so
the economic system sometimes needs carefully planned and
properly timed Government investment in order to save it from
the worst effects of a nation-wide breakdown.
If the capitalistic economy is made to function as
we desire, every able-bodied citizen who is willing and anxious
to work should be able to find employment in private industry.
One requirement to this end is that private initiative should

have free scope in so far as its functioning does not run
counter to the public interest.

Capital should have a reason

able prospect of a profitable return in every useful field if
it is to achieve the full employment of industrial and farm
labor.
We must admit, however, that there are times when
for one reason or another, the system of private industry partinlly stalls.

What should we do then?

It seems reasonable

that when production and trade decline over a wide front for
many months, the Government must step in and take up some of
the slack.
But to supplement private income through Government
investment in a depression, whether in 1931, 1934 or 1938, inevitably requires that the Government run up budget deficits.
With a tax system that is geared to incomes, it takes either
impossible increases in tax rates, or else annual deficits,
even to hold basic Government activities unchanged in a depression.

And when relief and public works expenditures are

added there must be still larger deficits.
Borrowing, therefore, has been necessary and the
Federal Government, debt held today by the public has increased
in 8 years, from 15 billions to 36 billions.

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II

VJhat does this increase in the Federal debt mean in
its effect upon our economy?

To the extent that expenditures

have added to national wealth, whether or not they promise future monetary returns to the Government, they have in most cases
created capital assets.

But the Government also has other as-

sets, like the R.F.C.'s investment in banks, which are simply
obligations whose future repayment, under prosperous conditions,
is as certain as the payment of any debt that is backed by prime
collateral.
Let us note, too, that the Treasury has not had the
slightest difficulty in marketing either its long or short term
obligations.

Because of the abundance of available funds, in-

terest rates on Government securities, like rates on all other
prime investments have fallen to unheard-of lows.

The conse-

quence is that in carrying a debt that is 100% larger than in
1926, the interest cost to the Treasury is only 25% greater
than the 1926 interest cost —
per year.

a sum of approximately $200,000,000

Obviously, the additional "burden" on the present

generation, imposed by Government borrowing, has not been unduly oppressive.

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But, we are told, we are placing an intolerable burden on future generations.
off?

How is the debt ever to be paid

Retirement of debt is indeed impossible under depression

or semi-depression conditions, but not when the country is prosperous,

It is inconceivable that the economic machine will

forever run in low gear.

All the weight of the evidence in-

dicates that sooner or later the national income will reach and
pass the 75-80 billion dollar mark.
As business activity approaches and surpasses this
level —

which it must ao in order to give relatively full em-

ployment to an enlarged population, just as it once did for the
population in the 1920*s —
works villi be lessened.

expenditures for relief and public
The Treasury might then be able to re-

duce the debt by as much as 2 billions a year.

Ill

We have been through such a long period of discouragement since 1929 that we tend to think that prosperity will never
again really take hold.

But the chances are that just as it

has gotten under way in the past, it will do so again.

If an-

other year or two passes safely by, we may hope to be on the
road to sustained recovery.

Construction activity is at last

showing signs of a real upward trend, and if we may judge by
the experience of the 1920*3, this should mean an increased
underlying demand for several years ahead.

Even so, we

must still be pessimistic about our chances of permanently
curing the grave unemployment problem,
We must admit that the system of private enterprise
faces a difficult task in this age in which our continent has
ceased to expand and its cities are no longer rapidly filling
up.

The economic scaffolding of our civilization has been

weakened.

We must recognize that there will be times in the

future when the Government will have to shore up this scaffolding.
When prosperity really takes a firm grip upon our
economy, we must reduce the Government debt as much as revenues in the prosperous years will allow.

But, in the mean-

time, we need not be overwhelmed by anxiety about the "crushing
burden of debt", since these words are little more than an
obvious exaggeration of the facts.
real issues.

Let us, rather, face the

Let us explore, study and, if possible, adopt

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every effective means whereby we may hope to solve the difficult
problem of keeping our system of free enterprise functioning as
we desire.

(Signed)

Ernest G-. Draper

P.S. The above remarks are my personal views and are in no
sense to be considered as an official view point of the Federal
Reserve System.
E.G.D.