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For release on delivery
10:00 a.m., E.D.T.
October 25, 1989

Statement by
Alan Greenspan
Chairman, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
before the
Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy
of the
Committee on Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs
U.S. House of Representatives
October 25, 1989

I appreciate this opportunity to testify in
connection with two pieces of legislation currently before
Congress—the Zero-Inflation Resolution and H.R. 2795, the
Federal Reserve Reform Act of 1989. Each of these, in its
own way, raises issues that go to the heart of monetary
policymaking in this country.

The resolution would clarify

congressional intent as to the broad objectives of policy,
while H.R. 2795 would make changes in the structure and dayto-day practices of the Federal Reserve.
The possible implications of the proposed
legislation should be given careful consideration.

As our

central bank, the Federal Reserve has been entrusted with a
number of responsibilities deemed essential to the effective
functioning of our economy, including upholding the
purchasing power of the nation's currency, facilitating the
smooth operation of payment systems, and standing ready as
the lender of last resort.

These responsibilities and the

structure of the Federal Reserve have evolved from many
years of deliberation about the proper role of a central
bank in a democratic society.

The question is how such a

society can best construct a central bank that combines
public accountability with the authority necessary to
perform effectively.
The answer in the case of the United States has
been the complex structure of the Federal Reserve System,
which includes special qualities germane to the

-2institution's charge.

The System as a whole, including the

12 Reserve Banks, was established as a balancing of diverse
regional and economic interests. By including
representatives of the Reserve Banks on the primary
decisionmaking body of our central bank, Congress and the
President signalled the importance of those regional
perspectives and helped ensure that monetary policy w6uld
reflect the needs of the entire nation.

The Federal Reserve

also has been deliberately accorded a significant degree of
insulation from day-to-day political pressures: for example,
the members of the Board of Governors are appointed to 14year terms and our budgets are not subject to oversight by
the Administration or, more generally, to the authorization
and appropriation process.

While we have been given broad

guidelines for policy and report regularly on our plans to
carry them out, the near-term conduct of policy has been
explicitly distanced from the political arena. This
insulation has not meant isolation, as we coordinate and
consult extensively with both the executive and legislative
branches.
The System has been given an element of
independence within government because the effective
implementation of its special functions has been perceived
to require it.

This independence enables the central bank

to resist short-term inflationary biases that might be
inherent in some aspects of the political process.

The

-3Federal Reserve must take actions that, while sometimes
unpopular in the short run, are in the long-run best
interests of the country.

The standard of living of the

American people will be higher over time if we pursue
monetary policies that are consistent with long-term price
stability.

Deviating from the path of policies directed

toward long-term stability can create a temporary surge in
an economy, but only at a longer-term cost in terms of
unemployment and lowered standards of living that far
exceeds the short-term benefits of revving up an economy.
The structure of the Federal Reserve, as well as
its relationship with other parts of government, has evolved
over time as Congress and the Executive have sought to
define the appropriate role and powers to grant a U.S.
central bank.

The considerable debate and study that went

into the establishment of the Federal Reserve did not
prevent the government from making major changes in the
central bank's structure as, over time, the need for those
changes was clearly demonstrated.

In particular, a mid-

course correction was undertaken in the 1930s. Further,
less striking refinements have occurred in the intervening
years.
The Federal Reserve as it stands today is the
result of many years of informed discussion and refinement;
that need not imply that its structure is the best of all
possible structures.

But it is one that works.

It is a

-4system in which the various parts mesh, and the job gets
done.

Changing such an organization, even perhaps improving

one or more parts of it, may well have unforeseen and
unfortunate consequences elsewhere in the structure.

In

other words, change, while it may have benefits, also has
potential costs.

The fact that the existing Federal Reserve

institutional structure has been unchanged for many years
has enabled the organization to develop a means of operation
dedicated to the most efficient carrying out of our
responsibilities.

Where elements of the structure have been

less than optimum, relationships have evolved to compensate.
If the structure is altered, time will be required to recompensate.

In short, for a period of time the efficacy of

the organizational structure will decline.
H.J. Res. 409
The Zero-Inflation Resolution represents a
constructive effort to provide congressional guidance to the
Federal Reserve.

If passed, it would further clarify the

intent of Congress and the President as expressed in prior
legislation.

Legislative direction as to the appropriate

goals for macroeconomic policy in general and monetary
policy in particular have been provided before.
Unfortunately, the instructions have defined multiple
objectives for policy, which have not always been entirely
consistent—at least over the near term.

-5The current resolution is laudable, in part because
it directs monetary policy toward a single goal, price
stability, that monetary policy is uniquely suited to
pursue.

While such influences as oil price shocks,

droughts, depreciation of the dollar, or excise tax hikes
may boost broad price indexes at one time or another,
sustained inflation requires at least the acquiescence of
the central bank.
Moreover, the objective set in this legislative
proposal would promote the welfare of the American people,
because price stability is a prerequisite for, over time,
maximizing economic growth and standards of living.

As the

resolution spells out, the elimination of inflation would
allow the economy to operate more efficiently and
productively by reducing the need to predict and to protect
against inflation.

The elimination of inflation would allow

interest rates to decline and would reduce the uncertainty
about price trends that can discourage saving and
investment.

In general, as I indicated earlier, over the

long run, price stability is a precondition to the economy
turning in its best possible performance.

It is for this

reason that the Federal Reserve remains determined to
reach this goal.
The resolution explicitly recognizes this long-run
relationship, and in an effort to get there, it sets a fiveyear deadline on eliminating inflation.

Such a deadline is

-6attainable, but it would have costs. During this transition
period, growth could be reduced for a while from what it
otherwise would have been.

Because price-setting behavior

in our economy has considerable momentum, the requisite
slowing of demand would tend to translate, in the first
instance, into a slowing of real output and only
subsequently into restraint on prices.

In the longer run,

of course, whatever losses are incurred in the pursuit of
price stability would surely be more than made up in
increased output thereafter.
The extent of the near-term slowdown in real
output would be influenced by a variety of factors,
including importantly the strength of inflation
expectations.

At the moment, after seven years of inflation

trending around a 4 percent annual rate, individuals,
businesses, and financial markets appear to believe with
some conviction that inflation is likely to remain in this
vicinity.

Of course, over the years, monetary policy will

be bringing inflation down further, and inflation
expectations will adjust downward as well, but the mere
passage of legislation such as this could be helpful in
reducing those expectations even more quickly.
Nevertheless, with the nation's last prolonged period of
approximately stable prices now a generation in the past,
the public is likely to remain skeptical until it observes
real, consistent progress.

-7The elimination of inflation is not a simple
mechanical operation.

To minimize the costs associated with

the process and to react to unexpected events, the Federal
Reserve must retain significant flexibility.

Monetary

policy is only one of many influences on the economy.

The

stance of fiscal policy, the condition of financial markets,
and the course of foreign economic developments are among
the other major factors affecting the economy.

As events

unfold, adequate policy responsiveness requires ongoing
judgment and flexibility in decisionmaking by the monetary
authorities.
Various other influences on the economy can prove
either helpful or harmful in the process of eliminating
inflation.

For example, maintaining free and open markets

for products and productive resources is a key factor in
facilitating that process.

Competitive markets provide the

most efficient and complete employment of resources,
allowing the economy to grow at its potential. The
flexibility provided by free markets is especially
beneficial during periods of transition, such as that
implied by this resolution.

Thus, reducing unnecessary

regulations and rigidities could, by enhancing market
flexibility, lessen the strain of adapting to a stable-price
environment.

This conclusion applies with respect both to

domestic impediments and to international barriers;
protectionism can raise the costs of lowering inflation.

-8The federal deficit also would affect the path
to price stability.

To the extent that the federal

government restrains its demand, the need for restraining
private sector credit demand would be reduced and funds
would become more available for that sector.

In other

words, the degree of monetary policy restraint implicitly
mandated by the resolution's five-year deadline would be
lessened by better balance in the federal government's
accounts.
The Federal Reserve Board fully supports the thrust
of the current resolution, because price stability is in the
best interests of the nation, and because it is achievable.
But the reminder that significant costs could accompany the
transition to stable prices is also a reminder, both to the
Federal Reserve and to the rest of the government, that
efforts would have to be made to minimize those costs. By
minimizing the transition costs, we ensure the continued
willingness to pay those costs so that we may realize the
long-term, and very substantial, benefits of price
stability.
H.R. 2795: Secretary of the Treasury
In the remainder of my testimony, I will take up
each of the provisions of the second piece of legislation
under consideration, H.R. 2795, in the order it presents
them.

The first provision would make the Secretary of the

Treasury a member of the FOMC.

I understand, however, that

-9this provision is being changed instead to require periodic
meetings between the FOMC and representatives of the
Administration.
I was pleased to hear that the original provision
would disappear, because expanding the Secretary's
responsibilities in that manner could have significant,
adverse effects on monetary policy.

As you know,

legislation in 1935 explicitly removed the Secretary from
the Federal Reserve Board, and the clear intent of Congress
in doing so was to assure that the Federal Reserve would be
insulated from day-to-day political pressure and influence
by the Treasury Department and the Administration.

Placing

the Secretary of the Treasury on the FOMC would have torn
away an essential part of that insulation.

Moreover, as the

Administration official responsible for funding the federal
government, the Secretary might face conflicting goals—on
the one hand, the immediate need to finance the deficit at
the lowest possible interest rates, and, on the other, the
obligation to support a monetary policy consistent with a
stable economic environment over time.
The substitute provision replaces that more radical
change with the requirement to hold several meetings each
year,

I am fully in favor of productive exchanges of

information and opinions between members of the FOMC and
members of the Administration.

In fact, there already exist

a large number of forums in which those views are aired,

-10providing ample opportunity for the Administration to make
us aware of its perspective.

We maintain a close working

relationship with the Secretary and the Treasury generally,
as well as with other departments and agencies, including
the Office of Management and Budget. Board and Treasury
staffs are in daily communication with each other, and the
Secretary and I meet at least once a week.

I also meet

often with the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers,
and I speak frequently by telephone with both the Chairman
and the Secretary.
As a consequence of these contacts, both the
Administration and the Federal Reserve are fully informed
about each other's views on the economy and their plans for
policy.

These interactions contribute to the coordination

that is so necessary in carrying out the nation's economic
policy.

Moreover, to ensure the continued coordination of

macroeconomic policy, the Full Employment and Balanced
Growth Act of 1978 already requires us, in our semiannual
reports to Congress, to relate our objectives to the
economic goals set forth by the Administration.
Notwithstanding the existing channels, I would
support expanding these contacts if the individuals involved
feel it would be useful.

Specifically, more frequent

meetings of the so-called Quadriad—the Secretary of the
Treasury, the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers,
the Director of Management and Budget, and the Chairman of

-lithe Federal Reserve Board, with or without the President—
might be useful. What I do not favor is the creation of
unnecessary and duplicative arrangements, which would
set up highly formalized channels of communication, such as
those apparently called for in the substitute provision.
Under this proposal, the required meetings,
involving the FOMC and the Quadriad, would take place
immediately before certain, key FOMC meetings. Although
intended only to improve the coordination of economic
policymaking, the proposal, by subjecting the FOMC to a more
intensely political perspective, could risk bending monetary
policy away from long-term strategic goals.
The ability of the Federal Reserve to conduct
monetary policy as it does today—with relative freedom from
day-to-day pressures from the Administration, as provided by
Congress itself—has served the nation well over the years
and should be retained.
H.R. 2795: Coterminus Term
The satisfactory performance of the status quo also
enters into the debate surrounding other provisions of the
bill.

One section would alter the schedule on which the

Chairman of the Board of Governors is appointed.

While

generally maintaining the current, four-year length of that
term, it would make it begin one year after the beginning of
a presidential term, thereby always allowing a new President
to appoint a new Chairman about a year after inauguration.

-12Should the Chairmanship become vacant prematurely, an
appointment could be made only for the remainder of the
unexpired term.

By contrast, the present system has an

element of chance:

all Chairmen are appointed to four-year

terms, and because some did not serve out their full terms,
the relation of the Chairman's term to that of the President
has changed over the years.
Proposals to change to coterminus, or approximately
coterminus, terms have been discussed and debated for more
than 25 years.

The main reason advanced for making the

change has been to promote better coordination of
macroeconomic policy between the Administration and the
Federal Reserve.

The prompt appointment of a compatible

Chairman would help ensure that monetary policy complements
the Administration's policy stance, and it would reduce the
potential for prolonged policy conflicts.

In addition,

there has been some concern that current law could result in
the Chairman's appointment regularly occurring during the
very politicized atmosphere of a presidential election.

On

the other side of the debate, opponents have argued that the
change would move too much in the direction of linking the
Federal Reserve to the White House and it would run counter
to the important principle of maintaining the Federal
Reserve's policy at some arm's length from the Executive.
At various times over the years, the Federal
Reserve has both supported and opposed proposals of this

-13type.

Having looked at the arguments on both sides, I do

not find those in favor of the change to be particularly
persuasive. As I indicated earlier, ample opportunities for
coordination of policy already exist.

In addition, I am

concerned that linking the Chairman's term to the
President's would imply less independence from the White
House than up to now has prevailed.

Moreover, some

practical problems could arise in response to the need to
fill an unexpired term.

For example, should the

Chairmanship open up with only a relatively short time left
to run, it might be very difficult to induce the best
qualified person to accept the position on a short-term
basis, as an intervening presidential election would prevent
any assurance of reappointment.
To my mind the present arrangement has worked
reasonably well.

I do not perceive strong advantages in

changing it.
H.R. 2795: Immediate Disclosure
Another provision of the bill would affect the
daily implementation of policy by requiring the immediate
disclosure of all monetary policy actions.

The argument for

this proposal rests on the importance of openness and
accountability in our government, and on the perceived value
of promptly giving markets all available information.
I agree that these are vital characteristics, and I
believe that the Federal Reserve's record on this score has

-14been good.

We make our decisions public immediately/ except

when doing so could undercut the efficacy of policy or
compromise the integrity of policymaking.

When we change

the discount rate or reserve requirements, those decisions
are announced at once. When we establish new ranges for
money and credit growth, those ranges are set forth promptly
in our reports to Congress. And when Congress requests our
views, we come before this Committee and others to testify.
Moreover, we publish our balance sheet every week with a
one-day lag.

What we do not disclose immediately are the

implementing decisions with respect to our open market
operations.

However, even the operating targets ultimately

are released to the public. We publish a lengthy record of
the policy deliberations and decisions from each Federal
Open Market Committee meeting shortly after the next regular
meeting has taken place.

In this respect, the Federal

Reserve compares very favorably with the central banks of
other major industrial nations.
The immediate disclosure of any changes in our
operating targets would make this information available more
quickly to all who were interested, but it also would have
costs.

Simply put, this provision would take a valuable

policy instrument away from us.

It would reduce our

flexibility to implement decisions quietly at times to
achieve a desired effect while minimizing possible financial
market disruptions.

Currently, we can choose to make

-15changes either quite publicly or more subtly, as conditions
warrant.

With an obligation to announce all changes as they

occurred, this distinction would evaporate; all moves would
be accompanied by announcement effects akin to those
currently associated with discount rate changes.

If markets

always accurately assessed the implications of such
announcements, incorporating them into the structure of
prices, then market efficiency might be enhanced by making
our open market objectives public immediately.

However,

prices can, and do, overreact to particular announcements,
as the stock market movements of the last two weeks seem to
confirm.

The loss of flexibility implied by the

announcement requirement would be regretable, especially in
view of the inevitable uncertainties surrounding the outlook
for financial markets and the economy.
The need for flexibility is especially pressing
in times of acute financial unrest. At those times, it is
imperative that the Federal Reserve remain able to respond
promptly and in whatever manner is most appropriate to the
moment.

The fluidity of financial crises requires the same

kind of fluidity in our response.

Some types of

announcements could well be helpful in such circumstances-as, for example, the very general statement made at the time
of the October 1987 stock market crash appeared to be.
However, it would be ill-advised and perhaps virtually
impossible to announce short-run targets for reserves or

-16interest rates when markets were in flux.

Our open market

operations might depend on market conditions at the moment
and might not be accurately represented by an announcement
of a particular goal for reserves or interest rates.
Moreover, the specific instrument settings might themselves
be changing as developments unfolded.

Markets are often

prone to overreact at times when the financial system
appears fragile, and under these conditions, the requirement
to publicize each change could risk further unsettling
markets.
In the normal course of events, a publicannouncement requirement also could impede timely and
appropriate adjustments to policy.

In recent years, the

Federal Reserve has been most successful when it has
anticipated pressures on the economy and has moved promptly
to counter them.

The immediate announcement of changes to

our instrument settings could adversely affect the
policymaking process that has made this possible and could
impart a degree of sluggishness to policy responses.

The

Federal Reserve might be forced to focus more on the
announcement effect associated with its action, than on the
ultimate economic impact.
Currently, the basic policy stance of the Federal
Reserve is reviewed by Congress and the nation when we
present our semiannual report on monetary policy.

The

longer-run ranges for money and credit, along with other

-17considerations set forth in those reports, constitute the
framework within which shorter-run, implementing actions are
taken.

Should the basic policy objectives change, that

would be announced promptly.

The current debate concerns

only the immediate disclosure of operational decisions
connected with carrying out those basic objectives. Our
conclusion is that mandating such announcements would yield
only marginal rewards, but could significantly reduce the
effectiveness of policy.
H.R. 2795: GAO Audit
A similar conclusion holds with respect to the
bill's next provision, which would extend the scope of the
General Accounting Office's audits of the Federal Reserve by
allowing the GAO to review our monetary policy activities.
The monetary policy area was one of the very few areas of
Federal Reserve activity explicitly exempted from review by
the Federal Banking Agency Audit Act of 1978, which
authorized GAO audits of the remaining functions.
We fully appreciate the interest of Congress and
the public in the conduct of monetary policy.

Indeed,

surveillance and disclosure of governmental activities is
essential in a democratic society.

It is only when certain

aspects of these requirements undercut the capability of an
agency to carry out its mandate from Congress that they may
not be in the public interest.

There is a tradeoff of

values—the valid desire of the public for surveillance and

-18disclosure relative to the value to the public of effective
policy.
The benefits proposed by H.R. 2795 would in my
judgment be small because the enhanced GAO audit would tend
to duplicate functions that are already performed.
Specifically, the monetary policy function of the Federal
Reserve is, in effect, already audited by Congress itself
when we present testimony and semiannual monetary policy
reports.

Moreover, a vast and continuously updated

literature of expert evaluations of U.S. monetary policy
exists.

The contribution that a GAO audit would make to the

active, public discussion of the conduct of monetary policy
in this country is not likely to outweigh the possible
negatives.
Those negatives would include a potential
compromising of Federal Reserve effectiveness, in part
because the FOMC might feel heightened pressure from
Congress, through this channel, to exercise other than its
best professional judgment on policy matters.

Even aside

from the possibility that this provision might influence the
stance of monetary policy, GAO scrutiny of policy
deliberations, discussions, and actions could impede the
process of formulating policy.

A free discussion of

alternative policies and possible outcomes is essential to
minimize the chance of policy errors. The prospect of GAO
review of formative discussions, background documents, and

-19preliminary conclusions could have a chilling effect on the
free interchange and consensus-building that leads to good
policy.

Responsible review of policy results is welcome—a

function already performed by Congress itself—but secondguessing of the policy process could prove detrimental to
that process, and ultimately to the effectiveness of policy.
H.R. 2795: The Budget Process
At this point, I would like to turn to the final
section of the bill, the section related to the budgetary
treatment of the Federal Reserve.

This issue of budgetary

treatment is one that has been considered many times. After
each review, Congress has concluded that the Federal
Reserve's functional independence is inseparable from its
budgetary independence.

Subjecting the Federal Reserve's

budget to review by the Administration and to the
appropriations process could allow inappropriate political
pressures to be brought to bear on the monetary authorities
and on the making of monetary policy.

The current proposal

exhibits some sensitivity to this issue by providing that
the Federal Reserve budget would be included in the budget
by the President without change.

In addition, as we

understand it, the bill does not intend to subject the
Federal Reserve to the appropriations process, although it
is not explicit on this point.

Nevertheless, the bill

represents a potential first step toward placing both the

-20Federal Reserve budget and Federal Reserve policy more
closely under short-run political control.
The benefits of making this change would be minor
compared with the costs because substantial and detailed
information on the Federal Reserve's spending and operations
is already available.

Budgets for both the Board of

Governors and the Reserve Banks are discussed and approved
in public meetings of the Board.

This Committee holds

annual oversight hearings at which we present testimony on
these budgets, with a full airing of issues related to our
revenues and expenditures.

The budget of the Board is

published annually as an information item in the appendix to
the federal budget and the estimated net income of the
System is currently included in the budget itself.

In

addition, since 1986 we have published a separate Budget
Review supplement to our annual report; this supplement was
developed explicitly to present the details of our financial
stewardship in a comprehensive, yet accessible, manner.
Finally, very detailed data on the Federal Reserve's
spending, drawn directly from our accounting and management
information system, are made available to the public on a
quarterly basis.
Bringing the Federal Reserve into the budget
document would not enhance the available information about
our revenues and expenditures, nor would it change the way
our activities affect the fiscal balance.

The Federal

-21Reserve's large net earnings are paid over to the Treasury
each year and are properly recorded as a receipt in the U.S.
budget.

Thus, the budget already reflects the influence of

Federal Reserve operations on the overall fiscal position of
the government.
Requiring the Federal Reserve to make budget
submissions would translate into requiring the institution
to maintain a dual accounting system.

The Federal Reserve

currently keeps its books according to generally accepted
accounting principles, and would have to continue to do so
for a variety of reasons, including the Monetary Control
Act's requirement that we price our services competitively.
Thus, a shift to federal budget accounting would require not
merely a one-time change, but ongoing duplicate accounting.
As a result, in order to provide meaningful data for the
federal budget document, the Federal Reserve would have to
incur several million dollars a year in additional expenses.
I certainly share the view that the Federal Reserve
must be fully accountable to the American people for its
spending, as well as for its policy actions. We regard it
as our duty to give a complete, public accounting of our
operations.

But this proposal would yield very little in

the way of benefits to the American people while entailing
some real costs.
Integrating Federal Reserve expenditures into the
federal budget, contrary to our entire history and earlier

-22congressional decisions, would, I fear, be interpreted as a
clear step toward heightened political influence and control
over the central bank.
Conclusion
In reviewing the legislation before us today, it
is, broadly speaking, the appropriate degree of guidance and
control over the Federal Reserve that is at issue. The
Zero-Inflation resolution is an example of appropriate
guidance for the central bank, if Congress chooses to go in
this direction.

In further clarifying the government's

long-run goals for monetary policy, the resolution would
provide a broad framework and direction to the Federal
Reserve.

While we at the Federal Reserve sympathize with

the desire for openness and accountability embodied in H.R.
2795, our considered view is that the provisions of this
bill move only marginally, if at all, in this direction.
Moreover, the proposed changes could well prove detrimental
to the implementation of effective monetary policy.

In the

Board's judgment—as citizens, not just as members of the
Federal Reserve System—it is a poor tradeoff.
In this regard, several points warrant repeating:
first, that the independence of the Federal Reserve has, in
practice, served the country well; second, that Congress, in
revisiting this issue on numerous occasions, has repeatedly
reaffirmed that independence; and third, that while each
proposal alone might represent only a small step, taken

-23together they would erode this independence and, with it,
the Federal Reserve's ability to carry out its
responsibilities.
The Federal Reserve is part of government,
operating with the other arras of government to further the
economic objectives of the nation.

The Federal Reserve is

always subject to change through the legislative process.
But in making changes, I would urge you to be sure there are
sufficiently compelling considerations of policy in favor of
the change.

Those factors must be judged to outweigh the

pragmatic considerations of tampering with a structure that
has proven resilient and useful, as well as the risks of
impairing our long-run prospects for economic growth.
In the past, Congress has steadfastly supported the
independence of the Federal Reserve.

I can only encourage

Congress now to reaffirm this commitment.