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At a regular meeting of the Federal Reserve Board
held in the office of the Board at 10:30 A. A

on Wednes-

day, November 22, 1916,
PRESENT:
Governor Harding, presiding,

Mr. Hamlin,

Mr. Warburg,

Mr. Miller,

Mr. Delano,

Mr. Allen, Assistant Secretary.

Mr. Dulany, Assistant Counsel.
Mr. Percy S. Straus, a director in R. H. Macy &
Company, and the Second National Bank of New York, appeared
by appointment for a hearing in connection with the ruling
of the Board under which he can not remain a director in
both.
se, an attorney, made a statement in behalf
of Mr. Straus in the course of which he stated that Macy
& Company do a cash business and have established a systeo
by which customers may make a deposit and have the cost of
purchases charged against their accounts.

Statements are

rendered monthly, and interest is paid on balances at the
rate of 45.

The dmount of such deposits now held was given

as approximately $1 300,000 and the number of depositors
about 14,000.

It was stated that the firm makes no direct

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profit through deposits, and that it closed accounts
which were left dormant and not used for the purchase
of merchandise.

The funds so deposited are kept entirely

separate from those of the business of merchandising.
About

or 8:L of the merchandise business of the firm

is transacted through this department.
Mr. Straus made a short statement, adding some
details, and was asked by the Board to submit, in writing,
details of the amounts deposited, charged against indidual accounts and refunded.
At 11:30 A. M. the Board heard Mr. David R. ?organ,
of Chicago, as to the following joint directorships:John A. Spoor, in the First National Bank and Livestock National Bank of Chicago, and the Guaranty Trust
Company of New York; and J. D. Oliver, of South Bend, Indiana,
in the First National Bank of Chicago and the National Park
Bank of New York.
In relation to Mr. Spoor's directorships, Mr. Forgan
read a letter from the Guaranty Trust Company, and a brief
prepared in behalf of the First National Bank of Chicago.
He stated that Mr. Spoor has resigned his directorships in
seven State banks, and that the Livestock National Bank is







located in the stockyards district, five miles from the
center of the city of Chicago.
Mr. Forgan read a letter from the National Park
Bank in connection with the case of tr. Oliver, and
stated details of his connection with the First National
Bank of Chicago.
Decision in both directorships was left open until
after the meeting of Federal Reserve agents in the week of
December 4th.
Ur. O. H. P. Johnson of:::ashington, the Vice President of the National Metropolitan Bank and a director in
the National Savings & Trust Company, was accorded a hearing'
and made a statement to the Board in which he held that the
two institutions were not in substantial competition.
At 1:25 P. M. the Board adjourn°

o meet at 3 P. g°

this day.

Secretary•