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At a regular meeting of the Federal Reserve
Board held in the office of the Governor at 11:00 a.
m. on lionday, November 15,
PRES'FINT:
Mr. Hamlin, presiding
• Delano
Lr. Williams

Mr. Warburg
Mr. Harding
Mr. Miller

Willis, Secretary.

Tho minutes of the meeting of the Board of
November 12 were road and approved.

The minutes of the meeting of the Executive
Committee of November 12 were read and approved except as to the details of the committee report on
reassignments to the committees of the Board.

The

latter was laid on the table rending further study

by the members.
On motion an application of the Federal
Reserve Bank of Boston for an issue of Federal reserve notes, aggregating .,':14,560,000, duly recommended
by the Committee on Issue and Redemption, was api)roved as follows:




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5 denomination
10
20
ft
50
ff
100

1.,000,000
2,000,000
560,000
600,000
400,000

The report of the Committee on Redistricting
was presented to the Board, and, as it had previously
been distributed to the members, was by unanimous consent, considered as having been read.

Discussion was

begun, and Mr. lkimain stated that the Secretary of the
Treasury had informed him that he would not be able,
to be present at this meeting, and suggested that the
-report be laid on the' table for a few days, not exceeding one week.
Mr. Delano moved that a special meeting of
the Board to deal with the question of redistricting,
be held on Tuesday, November 16, at 11:00 a. in.
Mr. WilIiams offered a substitute for the
motion to the effect that the Governor and Vice Governor be named a special committee to communicate
with the Secretary of the Treasury and ascertain when
it would be possible for him conveniently to attend
a meeting of the Board, expressing the desire of the•

Board to take up the question of redistricting at
the earliest possible moment.

The motion was sec-

onded by Li*.
Mr. Hamlin stated that he should ask for
one week's time in which to study the data which the
Comittee was asked to produce by his resolution, ank.,
that he would be prepared to vote.upon the Committee
report after such one week's study.
Mr. Hamlin read a draft of a motion which
he proposed to offer to the Board with regard to the
action to be taken in reference to redistricting the
country.

In this motion he presented a request for

detailed information as follows:
WHEREAL3, a committee was duly appointed
by the Federal Reserve Board on October 19,
1915, to e:.:anine and report on pending petitions for redistricting and redetermination of
Federal reserve cities upon which hearings
have been held, and
WHERAS, said committee has reported asking instructions as to whether to report upon
said petitions, including others on which no
hearings have yet been held, or, in lieu thereof, to report a plan for redistricting the entire United jtates, incidentally abolishing
several Federal reserve banks, and




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71HEREAS„ said committee in its request
for instructions had incorporated a general
report in favor of such redistricting and
abolishing of Federal reserve banks, and
-iHMEAJ, said committee in said report
has based its conclusions (a) Upon observations which it has made
of the workings of the Federal Reserve Act,
but has failed to report what such observations have been,
• (b) Upon certain experiences which it
has had under the Federal Reserve Act, but
has failed to specify what such experiences
were,
(c) Upon the admission that up to date
no conclusion could be justified by the experiences already, observed, but fails to
state any reason for such conclusion,
(d) Upon alleged savings in overhead
expenses, but has failed to state any figures
or to give any facts to sustain such statement,
(e) Upon saving in the cost of redemption
and issue of Federal reserve notes, but has
failed to give any figures to justify such conclusion,
, (f) Upon the necessity of balancing the
banking situation and making weak banks strong,
without citing a single instance of such weakness or lack of balance,
(g) Upon the necessity of ,removing sectionalism, without detailing any instance where such
sectionalism now exists,
(h)

Upon the benefits which would accrue

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to the clearing system by such redistricting, without explaining in any way how
creating further delay in collection of
chocks by enlarging the area of districts
would facilitate either collection or clearing,
(i) Upon the benefits to be derived
from limiting Federal reserve cities to cities
where Subtreasuries exist, without suggesting
what said benefits would be;
WHE2EAj, said committee in said report
states that it is of opinion that the Federal
Reserve System as at present constituted is inadequate to meet difficulties which may arise
aft,Jr the conclusion of the present European
War, that its present apparent adequacy rests
only upon the fact that it has not been put
to the test, the same being susceptible of the
interpretation that the Federal Reserve System
as at present constituted is a failure, and,
WHEREAS, said committee has recommended
that Federal reserve cities should be made
Central reserve cities thus increasing their
required reserves to a minimum of 18 per cent,
in order to deter cities without banking status
from seeking to become Federal reserve cities,
as well as to increase their reserve deposits,
WHEREAS, said committee has pointed out
that every real and imagined difference of
opinion of the Board will be taken advantage
of by the critics and enemies of the Federal
Reserve System, and that, therefore, unanimity
of action is desirable, - without disclosing
the facts upon which the unanimity of the committee is based, and,
WHEREAS, said committee fails to point
out the reasons which have weighed with its




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individual members in reaching. its conclusions reported, but contents itself merely
with the 6tatement that each member of the .
committee has reached his conclusions in .
his own way; now, therefore, be it resolved:
(1) That said committee report in detail
what the observations and experiences are
'under the Federal Reserve Act, which have .
impelled the members to the conclusions
reached in said report.
(2) What, if any, statistical information
the committee has prepared to justify its
conclusions an to the desirability and as
to the possibility of bringing about the
diminished expenses in overhead charges and
cost of issue and redemption of Federal reserve notes.
(3) Whether or not said committee has prepared any concrete plan of redistricting and
abolishing Federal reserve banks, any such
plan to be submitted to the Federal 'Reserve
Board for its consideration, to enable it
more intelligently to give to said committee
the instructions it now asks.
(4) Whether said committee in reaching its
conclusions had in mind the opinion of counsel
of the Federal Reserve Board that said Board
had no lawful authority to reduce the existing number of Federal reserve banks or districts, and whether any legal opinion has
been asked or secured from other counsel of
the Board, annexing .a copy of any such opinion.

Ur..Miller asked the Committee on Redistricting whether it was prepared to set forth in

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tne manner heretofore customary at sessions of
the Board, the reasons for its proposed action,
and also details relating thereto.

On behalf

of the Committee, Mr. Delano, as chairman, reported in the affirmative, saying that he could
furnish full information whenever the topic was
discussed, but that it would be much easier to
do this apropos of a specific plan of redistricting, should the matter be developed to the ,point
where such plan, could be presented.
Aft9r further discussion, Mr. Hamlin
offered the motion already cited as an amendment
to Er. Williams' substitute for the original motion of Mr. Delano.

Mr. Harding thereupon moved

to table the substitute.

On a recorded vote, the

motion was adopted, those voting in the affirmative
being Messrs.

Delano, Warburg, Miller and Harding,

and those in the negative, Messrs.

Hamlin and

7illiams, so that the motion was laid on the table.
Mr. Delano informed the Board that he
wished to emphaisze the fact that the Committee was




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ready to place before the Board all available
data relating to the whole question of redistricting whenever the Board should be ready to
take up and consider the subject.
Mr. Miller asked whether Mr. Delano
was prepared to put this orally in the form
which had been the usual practice in past proceedings.

Mr. Delano replied in the affirmative.
A vote being called for on the substitute

of Mr. lilliams for Li*. Hamlin's original motion,
the substitute was, by unanimous consent, modified
so as to make Mr. Hamlin a committee of one to communicate with the Secretary of the Treasury, as
provided by the substitute, and, on being put to a
vote, the substitute prevailed, Mr. Delano accepting the same in lieu of his original motion.
It was agreed that the Board should meet
at 3 p. m. this day for the purpose of hearing the
report of Mr. Hamlin after communicating with the
Secretary of the Treasury.
A report of the Committee on Staff with

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reference to bank examiners' salaries, and the report on the same to Jongress, accompanied by a memorandum as to the functions of bank examiners, was
road to the Board, received, and action deferred until the Comptroller of the Currency should have

op-

portunity to consider the report fully.
On motion applications for the surrender
of stock in Federal reserve banks, duly recommended
by Mr. Harding were approved as follows:
DISTRICT No. 2.
Homer National Bank

Shares.
Homer, N. Y.

30

DISTRICT No. 4.
Exchange National Bank
Lodi, Ohio
29
Commercial National Bank Pittsburgh, Pa. 300
10.
Tecumseh National Bank

Tecumseh, 701Jr.

By unanimous consent a letter from Federal
Reserve Agent Jay with reference to a proposed meeting

between a committee representing the National

Bank Section of the American Bankers' Association
and the Board, was read to the Board, but no action




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taken pending the receipt of further information.
A letter to ILA-. Warburg from the Javings
Bank Section of the American Bankers' Association,
asking that the members of the Board join a prol'osed "Thrift" Association, having been read, it
was informally agreed that there is no reason why
such membership should be accepted by members of
the Board.
A letter from Mr. P. H. jaunders on behalf of the Branch Bank at New Orleans, relative
to the proposed open market operations for the
Branch, was read to the Board, and on motion, reforrec7, to the comilittee in charge of regulations
governing open market purchases at

Now

Orleans,

(Mr. Harding and Mr. Warburg) for report.
The Oecretary of the Board having read
a letter from the 2ederal Reserve Bank of Cleveland inquiring whether Aderal reserve banks
might dispose of bonds acquired in open market
transactions, was instructed to call the attention of the Cleveland Bank to the provisions of

3ectiou 14, sub-section

b) of the 2edera1 Reserve

notion at 1:lb the Board adjourned to
meet at 3 p. m. this day.