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STENOGRAPHERS MINUTES
THE RESERVE BANK
ORGANIZATION COITMITTEE.

".-.aDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT DIVISIONS AND LOCATION
OP FEDERAL RErERVE EANES AND HEAD OEEICES."

nr.

At
D o lt .




CineLima,tl* _Ohio*.
February 16^. 1914*.

Law Reporting Company, Official Stenographers
H 5 BROADWAY,

NEW YORK

T I U P H O N t , 2820 RECTOR

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CIWCIWIIATI, OHIO.
F e b ru a ry
Tdo O r g a n i z a t i o n C o n i t te e a s t

1 8 th ,

1914,

p u rs u a n t t o n o t lc o a t

10:00 A* II.

mam:
THE SCCR1ETAHT OF TFT TRTASURT.
TH* 8TCR1TTART OF AORICtTlTOne.

Ap PTARAFCE9S




WL 8 .

ROWF, P r e s i d e n t F i r s t

Mat io n s 1 Bank,

and Ch&irr.an o f th e v a r i o u s

C o s s itte e s

C in c in n a t i,

i n the

R e g io n a l Bank u t t e r .
9KORCK r .

DICTTRLC, P r n i o s n t ,

C in c in n a ti C h M b «r o f

C o u a r c i.

/

CHARLES A . HIW8CH,

P r t t ld m t ,

House A s s o c i a t i o n ,

C in c in n a t i C le a r in g

and P r s s i d e n t o f t h e

F ifth -T fa ird

R a t io n a l B an k.
F . W. SDWART9,

F re e Id e n t,

B u s la s e s Men9s C lu b ,

C in ­

c in n a ti ,
FRFTFHICX C. HICKS*
of
J.

S.

P ro fe s so r o f

V c o n c s ic s ,

U n iv e r s it y

C in c in n a t i.
McHTWHY,

(H ash v ille,

T en n .),

repreesntln g

ac

4342

n a a n v il l a C la a r in g H cu ta;

V ica Prsoidant of t h e Fourth and

F I r o t n a t io n a l Banka*
8.

CARR,

V.

(T o le d o ,

O M o ),

Pr««ii.anX Rational Ba

o f Corse j r c c .
0

H.

.

A.

3HARP.

(Z a n a a v l l l a ,

O b l o ) # C ao hior,

Old

C it la a n A H a t Io n a 1 B an k.
JOHH L . BUnHWFLL,

(3 p r ln *fie ld .

O h i o ),

P r a o id a n t.

F lr a t n a t io n a l Bonk.
X.

B.

G~BRA??DT,

(P a y t o n . O h i o ) ,

r«p re»*r.ting th#

D a /t o n C le a r in g Housa.
C.
first

CHITES,

(L i.ta ,

O h io ).

C a a h ia r and Han*gar cf

N atio n a l B an k .
J.

tha

D.

S.

H IL L ,

( d a rleato n,

V ast V i r g i n i a ) ,

Cao hiar ,of

n a tio n a l City B an k .
ROBERT l>. ARCHER,

C u a h la r / I rat
W. K .

(H u n tin g t o n ,

Waat V i r g i n i a ) ,

R ational B a n k ,
FAKITR,

(V in o « n n e « ,

In d ia n a ),

Caafclar,

Oonran

■ atlonal B a n k .
J.
P ain to v llla
L.

1C. BUCKIBQHAM,
R atio n al
W.

E A T I8,

(P a ln t a »lllo ,

K o n to cky ),

C aa h lar,

B an k .
(Aahla«<!,

K e n t u c k y ),

P r«14?ist,

Second

R a t io n a l B a n k .
3.




A.

rLKTCHFR,

(In d la n a p o lla ,

In d ia n a ),

re p r o a a n t ln * j

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4343

tns

In d ian ap o lis
AHE -i

C laarln g

^MITH,

In d ia n a Bankers

House A s s o c i a t i o n .

(In d ian ap c lia,

A ssociation ;

V ies

In d ia n a ),

P rssiden t

Sscretaryof

In d ian a

nation al

B an k # In d ia n ap o lis.
MARCUS 3.
A ssociation ,
C.

3GBTAG,

E v an stills,

H.

CHURCH,

E s l s w a r s C o u n ty

T ics P rssid en t

Banker*

In d ia n a .

(U u n cU ,

National

In d ian a

B ank*

Ind iana ) ,
also

Cash i s r o f

Sscrstary

of

ths

ths

ttun ois

C l e a r i n g Hcuss A s s o c i a t i o n ,
H.

C.

SHARP,

(M a y a v ills,

K entucky),

Ca.ahlar S t a t s

N a t io n a l Bank.
WALTtR S .
fo r

t h s Bank J c s s p h i n s ,
C.

F irst

C ity

K.

F^OST,

B atlo n al
A.

of

HARK196.

?.

R ational

B a rtse ll,
H.

In o x v ills
C.
a p p .a rln *

».

Prsstcnburg,

(A th e n s,

Bank a t

K entucky),

Kentucky) ,

A lsh aaa),

ap p earin g

and o t h e r s .

ap pearin g

fo r

A tftsn s and c t h s r s .

JACC.SOW,
B an k ,

(P rsston bu rg,

(D ec atu r,

and P r s s l d s n t

Alabam a),
of

C ash ier of

ths F ir s t

R ation al

fo r




Bank

41 a * s a fe .
JOHW8TOV,

(C n o aviH e,

T sn n sssss),

P rssld sn t

C l e a r i n g House A s s o c i a t i o n .
C.

the

BOWTPR,

(P o in t

ttt. P . l n t

P leasan t,

P l.a a an t

* ..t

R atio n al

V irg in ia ),

Bank a n i

th .

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4344

Point Pleasant Trust Cos pany and tha Merchants national Bank
J.

B. V A L O R ,

(C a n t s r v l iie ,

T e n n s s s a s ),

f o r F irst

National Bank of C « n t * r v il l s and othsr banks*
*.

V.

HTlflCX,

(M lddletosn,

O h i o ),

President F irst

Katlonal Bank of Middletown, also repreeentlng Ogleaby
and Barnett Banking Company,
D . PITTOV,

S.

(Ham ilton, O h i o ),

Preelaent F ir s t

n atio n al Bank.
R.

L.

BURCH,

JAMES A .

k&c.y t, C o ap a n jr.




(C in cin n ati,

ORSEW,

O h io ).

(C in cin n ati,

O b ic),

fo r

M attbaa

4345

Ths $ * «retery of th« T rta «u ry : Qertle**en,
is

^

le ss

this ^ r K s l t U t

r j i a w it h the duty of d l r l d l r f t h is owsntry in to not
than slHht nor sort: th^n twelve f O d e n l Beserwe d i t *

tricts,

«nd the l i i f t t i & f w it h in

m

A

c m « f a F ederal Besik*

The Aot req u ires that the Ccssslttee s h il l h t v :

auo

re*r-ru

fo r o c n w .l a n o e ajrui cuetonary ocures r>f business in z&sJtlnjr
,h le A ( p « r t i a w « n t *

fh r t we dse ire is

to

^t

faote r e la t in g

tc the t r e b l e * fr e e that stand p o in t, ws w e ll u t of

,* c i i m p

^ c n e r l in r n a l ie n which would be is r t ir o n t to the issue*
Ae we hawe b id c* use tc remsrk b e fo r e . I t le not
oratory or tloqutnoe
fa c t e *

that we r.re so such ii

quo^t of ae

0*ln$r to the b r i e f tiae which the Ccn&lttee hae a t

lt e d is p o s a l* we haws to oonflne the w it n e s s e s ,
p o s s ib l e ,

so f a r as

tc ths charactsr of facts which ws think are n e *

osf-sr.ry f o r the

urpose *

Thsrs are a ^ord wsny c it ie s to be heard here

to­

day* M M r d i n | to this l i s t ; sore th~r we had eu£p#£Sd ws
w ruld haws,

so that ws s h a ll haw:

to wst at ths e a t t t r
#

▼cry d i r e c t l y ,

rad we s h a l l ask you a l l to speak tc ths

p oint*
Ws w ill




talcs up C in c in n a t i f i r s t * Mr. R c r t , I e s s .

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4346

l<i C n a l r a a n

of

trie J o i n t

Coasaittee.

STATCM^ITT OF I .
Tho 8 0 0 r o t a r y
your oaaef
Mr.

of

th o T r e a ^ n r y :

residen ce

Rowe:

V.

C in cin n ati,

an d

S.

S.

and

ROWE.

Hr.

Rowe,

w ill

you e t a t s

occupation.

Rowe;

P resid en t,

C h airm an o f

F iro t

th o v a r i o u s

n atio n al

Bank o f

C o aaittsee

in

th o

R e g i o n a l B ank a a t t o r o .
Tne S e c r e t a r y
make.

Rove:

tc

I

avoid

aa

Treasury:

going

to

ta lk

sta tistic s

as

fa r

tics

i n the

that

the Cossaittee

d ivisio n s

b riefs

of

and
in

In

You ha v o

c o u n try

the country

h oing

drawn

that
in

Tha S e c r e t a r y

fro a

a statem ent

the a s p s .

in

8,

sill

a a s saade f o r

so? o s ,

as p o s s l b l s .
It

s s v e r e l aplacee

your p e rm issio n as

w ith
ths

tho

to

Tcu may p r o c e e d .

Mr.
try

of

10,

a

ei& ht

go in g to

We h a v e

1*

sta tis­

cur understanding

has asked

11 o r

o ffe r

and a a

fo r

su^gsstsd

12 d i v i s i o n s ,

s u p .p e l t e d

o r aore

d ivisio n

banka,

the

and
of
lin ee

—
of

the

Treasury:

Have y ou e x t r a

cop ie*

of

thisT
Mr.
d ivid e

Rowe:
the




We s i l l
country

fu rn ish

Into

eigh t

thea.

The b l a c k

d istricts.

Ths

lin e s
red

in

lin e e

general
ehos

W.

ec

tho

territo ry

That

eould

tc

be a a o e

out

if

ten a re

chosen*

p o ssib le

dlvld*~
lin e
its

into

atcut
rapid

tla s

of

the

If

The

com

green

Central

nine

to

be a a £ e

that

settlem en t

and

would p r o b a b l y

slth

If

the
The

growth,

have

to

the

west

lig h t

the a r e a

great

of

are

of

blu e

thought

the M i s s i s s i p p i

were
in

that

in a

c 5s t r i c t

lin e s

country

of

ch o sen *

Bear Ycr k and

showe t h e

d istrict,

11 o r 12 d i s t r i c t s *
is

ban k s

o ff

lin e

The p u r p l e an c

changes

Texas

there

4347

n e csesarily

territo ry .

to

the

Howe

oe s u b - d i v i d e d

probably

He* E n g ls n i

3.

shoe
tc

the

be

purple

country

in

reasonably

short

aa d 3 o f

be a d i v i s i o n

that

tsrrito ry *
The 8 J c r s t —ry
d ivisio n ,
Mr.

tne

Roes:

o£

t&e T r e a s u r y :

d istrict

prcpcssd

P ra c tic a lly ,

except

How,
fo r

i n an y

suggested

C in cin n ati

that

we h a v e

is

u n a lte re d .I

d raw n so n s

r o u g h l i '.s « h e r s .
T:.a

of

sp sc iflc

d istric t,

th e

U :la a tln n

w ha t you p r o p o s s f o r

d r. Roes:
aa„

is

draen

Thsrs
fo r

Ths S e c r e t a r y
tor

th e

sske




of

T r e a s u r y : - H a v s you a map

the

u N e a r ly

th an

th is

ths

does,

C in cinn ati?

is

a eap

p ra c tic a lly
ef

scr«

shoeing

thers,
a ll

the T re a su ry :
record.

Mr.

of

Secretary.

the f i v e

You M i g h t

that

etatee*
describe

them

ei

ec

* . S .

M r.

Rowe:

propose

The s t a t e s

co n sist

an d T e n n e s s e e ,
the

Map s h o w s

Indiana,
with

or

the

that

what

to

d istricts

w h i c h we

In'lana, I t u t V i r g i n i a ,

Kentucky

g re a te r parts

it

covers

county

a g ric u ltu re

ot

P ean eylvan ia

and

th.

it

here

w ith

the R eeerve
Mr.

Rowe:

on

and t h e r e

A ppalachian

parts
that

ranga,

A glance at

in Ohio

section

of

that

fe w e r p eop le

shows t h e

of

the

Treaaury:

Bank a o a o r g a n l a e d ,

The c a p i t a l

tw elve a l l l l o n
The

thes.

in

and

tha

seews

it.

in

country
to

be

I n the u n d e v e l­

o f Vest V ir g in ia ,
are

covered

by t h e c o n *

c o a l n g down t h r o u g h

and l e w Y o r k .

Th* S e c r e t a r y
of

of

p a rtic u la rly

E a s t e r n K e n t u c k y and T e n n e s s e e
tln u a tio n

the

a den sely populated

is

oped c o u n t r y ,

4346

o ao

com prising

or O hio,

an o c c a s i o n a l

devoted

R

Secretary

would be

What
an d

do you wake t h e c a p i t a l
the

reacurcea

eoteew here f r o m

ten

of

it?

to

d o lla rs.
of

the

Treaaury:

Hav e y ou any

exact fig u r e s

it?
Mr.

Rowe:

We h a v e no e x a c t

bean p re p a re d .
been
sh all
The

subm itted
have

to

think
y ll,

* e h a v e them
and

if

in

you w i l l

although
th e

they

b rief

have

which hae

etop

lo n g

enough,

1

sho uld

like

tc

the

the q u e stio n answ ered.

Secretary




I

figu rea,

of

the

Treasury:

We

have

•C

W. 3.

question

antvortd

Mr. Row#:

Ro»d

no*.

Th# capital and surplus of th# bank —

in c lu fs ^ State bank# —

this

Mr. Hlntch *t ostl&at# of th# cap ital

cf a oank coloring t h i* d is t r ic t would b# f l l # 7 0 0 , 0 0 0 .
Th# Secretary of th# Troasury:

On th# 6 p e r c#nt b a sis,

of

ccurssT
Mr. Row#:

On th# 6 p#r c#nt b a # is ,

with d#poslts of

| 4 3 #0 0 0 , 0 0 0 .

Th# S#or#tary of th# Tr#a*u ry:

Exclusive of O o vam aant d«-

posltsT
H r. H lnsch:
now ar#,

W# include th# Govarnaent doposits as th#y

out not

Mr. Row#:

as

provided f o r by th# Act.

Th#r# ar# probably thrcs# quarter® of a a l l l i o n

d o lla r s of Oovom a#nt aon#y I n tho local hanks:
Th# Sscrotary of th# Tr#asury:

In t h is ontlr# d is t r ic t

th#r# i# a grsat d#al mere than t h a t .

I think it would b#

w#ii to tak# out th# Go v# m * # n t d e p o s it s ,

in ord#r that

aay ss# what you haw# as a rtssrt# fo r t h is bank without
such d s p o s lt s ,

I think If you would glws th# c a p it a l and i u r *

plus of th# 3tat# banks at this point*
them from th# National b a n k *,
Mr. Rows:




that

is,

separate

it would be w e l l .

Th# Rational bank# I n th# d i s t r ic t nuahsr 1 , 0 0 9 ;

ec

r•S.

th e ir cap ital

and

$761,971,000.
an d

th eir

depoeite
3,660,

Tho S t a t e

cap ital

anc

the

end

is

#202,107,000,

banks

in th a
is

and

th e ir

d istrict

nuaber of

surplus
Of

anc

and

tae

a lo t

of

th e ir

banks

#391,094,000,

course

deposits

vzuaber 2,*>51

#188.393,000,

The t o t a l

$1,6 7 5,53 4 ,0 0 0.

not

4 3 5 0

surplus

cap ital

la

and t h e

these

oanke

q u a lify .

The S e c r e t a r y
State

banks

M r.

Rove:

la

surplus

$ 9 1 3 , 5 4 3 , OOO.

cepoeite
cou ld

loxa

of

A gric u ltu re :

J oining

the

What

is

to

The S e c r e t a r y

th e Department a t
of

the

a# t o

the

systeaT

The l a w taae b e e n a s s n d e d

accep table

th o l a w

Treaeury:

in Ohio,

and

I

think

W aehlngtcn.
Has t h a t

la w

been passed

as

yet?
Mr.

Rowe:

Tee,

The S e c r e t a r y
in

thie

and

d istrict

w hat c a p i t a l

Mr.

Rows:

ca p ital

to

ly .

Ro**e:

of

tho

are

bacosa a la w .

Treasury:

e lig ib le

and e u r p l u s
346

How msny o f

to aeabereh ip
do t h e y

show,

the

under
and

State
the

oanko

Act,

wha t d e p o s i t s ?

baurike i n O h i o h a w i n g

eu fficien t

n a tio n a lise .
of

Or to

T heir c a p it a l




hae

There a r e

The S e c r e t a r y
Mr.

it

the

Treaeury:

Or t o

Oecoae aem bere,

yes;

lo

th e ir

$40,991,000,

becom e a e a b e r o ?
1 stated
su rp lu s

it

incorrect*

$*0,729,000,

•c

W .S .

an d

th a ir

d *p oaits

In

surplus

K en t uc k y

f l L , 9^0,000,

surplus

of

of

has

a ll

that

these

done,

This

th e

if

Rose:

I m *y.

I

of

Wc«,
have

of

meet

in

don e

The S e c r e t a r y
the
M r.
*o u l4

of
of

the

s
of

cap ital

cf

capital

$ 1 0 , 6 6 * , 0CC,

#51,060,000.

Tou h a v e n o t

that

I w ill

Ye*.

the

lin e

fo r

it

the

fu ll

re a lisa tio n

the

have

1 proceed?

draw ing
slth

In d ian a

the

banks

«cul '

these

su m m aris ed

totals?

Treasury:

of

11 1,4^7,000,

$46,645,000.

been a g g r e g a t e d ?

S k all

the

t l 3 d , 9 0 5 , OOO.

d istricts.

banks,

northwestern p a rt

bu sin ess

is

slth

Treasury:

has n o t

of

cf

*nd d e p o s i t s o f 1 4 8 , 3 5 5 , 0 0 0 .

1 1 7 &*nks,

the

the

State

The S e c r e t a r y

rou gh ly,

of

and d e p o s i t s

and d e p o s i t s

com prises

Rose:

Mr.

uanke

has

w it i. a c a p i t a l

lo t banks w ith a c a p i t a l o f

are

# 5 , 4 4 ^ , 0 0 0 and d e p o s i t s

The S e c r e t a r y

Mr.

#5,73© ,000,

130

#; , 0 8 3 , 0 0 0 ,

That

fo r

449 b a n k s

$3,597,000,

West V i r g i n i a
surplus

ars

there

surplus

Tsnnsssss

4351

#338,996,000.

Indian*. t h e r e

134,033,000,
In

Rows

Treasury:

the

natural

fiv e

The t r e n d

th a t

trsnd

be t o w a r d
cf

etates

of

in
tne

O lo ago.

commodities

same?
Rose:

The t r e n d

sim ply

d e p e n d on t h e




of

c o m a u e d lt le s
dem and,

mould go e i t h e r

ra ilro a d

fre ig h ts

say,
and

it

W.

eo

t r id a ,

s.

Hoia

435 Z

wherever it happen# tc be developed.
In Vest V ir g in ia at the northern end,

the natural trend

there «ould be towards Pittsburgh and on the eaet side B a lt i­
more and Richmond,

which we think have scae d e alin g s with ths

banks, and a considerable trade with t a e a .

Central and

3 o u t h e m Vest V ir g in ia dsal largely with C in c in n a t i,
it

is on t n ls side of ths d iv id e ,

because

and the roade ccae through,

and the t r a in eervlce ie frequent and a c t iv e ,

and it

ie t h e ir

nearest large c i t y .
Eastern Kentucky and Central Kentucky deal here fo r
Ue

same rsasone*

Going down into Tenneesee we have purpossly

l e f t at the western edge there the tfewphie D l e t r l c t ,
would n aturally go to S t .

Louis and beyond the r iv e r .

Kentucky,

there Is a l i t t l e

beyond Paducah,

uhlch
In

part at ths

e~gs there that would probably have mcra b u s ln e ** with S t .
Louie taan any other s e c t io n .
Row that te r r it o r y as drawn repreeente our views
in a general way, and ws b e lie v e that the fig u r e s w ill shew
that it Is self- su p p o rtin g .
The Secretary of the T rsa su ry :
Mr. Rose:

Tee.

The S ec retary



Have you any fisrurse on that?

of

the

Trsasury:

Can you

subalt

those

now.

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that

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they

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is
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the

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ia

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and

is

demands
sprin g;

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country

obtained

it

co n sid erab ly ,

that
Of

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sho^s a

course

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rediscounts

tha

ahaom.

seasonal

jrew n

aeaacn—

baan t a b u l a t e d

seasons,

the

parte

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to

autus-n and w i n t e r ,

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d u r i n g the y e a r

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d istrict

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steady

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hand map r e p r e s e n t s

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banks

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anc

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greatest

in C in cin nati

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a1 d e r a n d a .
tfircu^h

the country

season.

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fou r

4353

map r e p r e s e n t s

leans

tiaes.

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I

Hcwa

RowaT

Mr.
ties

S.

and l o a n s

b a n k a up t h r o u g h

Ohio

shows t h a t
and the

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W .S .

•M tirn
of

part

Ind iana,

th an others

of

Row#

Kentucky,

of

the

d istrict

at

the peak o f

Rowe:

of

Rows:

of

the

Have y o u any f i g u r e *

the

R atio n al

banks

of

shewing

the

en tire

demand?

the

Trsasury:

The

R ation al

of

the

N atlcn al

the

Treasury:

Yes.

banks c f

the

banks

of

the

o f toe

Treasury:

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Wo.

C o s p t r o lle r 's
Rove:

and p ro d u c e

it

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lik e

over the
Ro*s:

h eavleet




Mr.

Secretary.

before

to

of

the

the

day

in

le

that

from

tbe

were

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lo c a l
in

shown,

you l i k e

ue

to

get

over?

idea o f

redlecou nts

redisco u n ts

Woul£

Treasury:

h a v e eome

demand
The

get

statem ent.

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M r.

tim es

d le trlct?

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hero

fo r

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Air. R c w e t

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d istrict?

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the

at

sorss p a r t

Ho.

The S e c r e t a r y

e n tire

and

in C in cin n ati

Treasury:

r e d is c o u n t s were

Mr.

loaned

i n Ohio

borrowed*

what the

en tire

p a rticu la rly

h a d a o r e 1 0 nay

The S e c r e t a r y

Mr.

4354

the

lik e

excess

to havs

of

the

supply

d le trlc ts.

ths
and

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the

wfcwn

am oun ts?

it.

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it

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«e

would

lik e

banka and
the

to

trust

report

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of

have

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of

fa r

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of

statem ents

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of

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ae

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to

Treasury:

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is

get

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the c o u n t r y ,

eitn

that,

to

set

but

not

the

that,

to have

Mr.

it

Baxter.

to

euch

Inform ation,
in

know

th le

eec~

p racticed

re fle c te d

C o aip trcller.

we c a n g e t
it,

send

lik e

you b a n k e r s
if

that fr e e

tc-day.

t h e b a n k a do

and a r e
tc

the State

get

t h o s e m et h o o e a r e

ba n k a

lik e

it

We s h o u l d

that

t h a n me a r e ,

we s h o u l d

p ra c tic a b le ,

and y o u c c u l d

made , o f

p rac tic al

rediecounte

n a tio n al

ae

In fo rm a tio n about

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the

ae f a r

becauae

are

i n the
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la

perhape

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it

reflec ta

desand.

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ueed
It

of

ease

by s e v e r a l m eth od s t h a t

fa m ilia r

le d g e

ie

country.

accom plished

the

Tea,

Have a B e i c r a n c u *

in d irect

the

Treasury:

the S t a t e

The S e c r e t a r y
som eth inj,

the

4355

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coap an lee.

if

Rowe:

8.

la

Rowe:
to

It

la

becom ing very

be 5 o r S o r 7 y e a r s

ge ttin g

pretty

Tne Se c r e t a r y
Mr.

Rose:

The

Secretary




I

of

w ell

the

or

p rev alen t

10 o r 20 y e a r s

than

It

age.

etamped o u t .

the T r e a s u r y :

do n o t
of

ago,

much l e e s

Tea.

know i f —
Treasury:

Our

purpose

there,

of ecurae

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v . S*

1e t o g o t
at

aa

too peak

banka

e e ll

certain
they

fa ir

an

idea

lo ad ,

sc

to

secu ritie s

tim e,

do I t

aDout

cy n o t

la

it,

not a l l ,

p ra c tic a lly

it

i n and

to

the

cred it
traat

of

they

of

act

he made t h e

deposit

is

alw ays

The 3e c r e t a r y

ao tivs,

but




dsrrand

year.

Sosa

tha

It

by

tc

that

pap*r

b\y

aethod,

of

there ba c k a t
and

th saa^ lv sa,

of

of

now,
ths

think

th is

is

have

a heavy

bank,

a

so eetlses

and h a v i n g

is

for

the

it.

tha
is

effect*

as

has cose

demand,

I

ths

bank,

bank,

and

tha
and

we p u t

bo n d s a n d

scarcely
it

wae e n t i r e l y

own s e c u r i t i e s ,
w ith h i s

know.

up f r o s

them h i s

*here

there

and he w i l l

a lo an ,

Tou c o u l d

secu rities

draw the

concerned,

so f a r

ana he l o a n s
of

knew s o m e t h i n g

r i c h e r than h i s

man w i t h h i s

of

I

C ity

own b o n d s and s a k e

the

it

I

tr.at

deposit

to

and

h a v e a man t h a t

ae a re d isc o u n t

concerned

txtrate

in C in c in n a ti,

w ill

the

and makes t h e

not easy

tha

Of t h #

a n agreem ent

f a r aa

it

p u t up h i s

a vo lu n tary

le

«o

any one w i l l s

cred it

that

of

1 knew,

we w i l l

sosehow or o t h e r
come

apeak,

»ith

as

none

H o* o c c a s i o n a l l y
and

p o ssib le

o ffic ia te .
So f a r

country,

4356

e n d o r s in g the

Rose:
if

as

and a c c o m p l i s h

tne D i r e c t o r #
Ur.

Rons

but where

own b a n k ,

it

lin e *

Treaeury:

So f a r

not a q uestion
He w an t

to

get

as

our purpose

of t h a purpose o r t h s
as

correct

an Idea o f

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ec

the

extrene

Rove

8*

demand upon

the

4357

d istrict

fo r

lo an able

fu & ie,

as

possible* •

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it

R o«e:

I

in C ln c lt m a ti
T\e G e c r e t a r y

extends,
ie

Hr.

Rove:

at

the

if

in

>*

of

to

cotU a

or

or

your

ehicft you

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pur^ oe*» t h a t

vae put

there

the c o u n try which
f r c « the

tl a t

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l a i c rout,

l*\ a e t r i / i ^ o n c y ?

ite e lf,

fo r

kno^led^e

w ith

wa a r.ad#

south

th li

c o «* vu ni + y ,

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cap ital

and v a r i e d

lin e s

or f roe

d o t ten
the
it

idea
were thou&ht

the tieaiy

some t e r r i t o r y
its

lin e

cculdj

ct' p o p u —

den sity

of a c t iv it y ,

cou ld

or.

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throughout

th is

in

O ctober ~l& t

ths

of

t net ? r a a » u r y :

d istrict,

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sho»M* t h a t

b a n k i asiount i n ^

to

number o f

To

b*t

an you p r o p o s e

extent
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ycu h e ld

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la r*e

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f»r

your d i s t r i c t

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of

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couthe^n crop » O T i a j d i s t r i c t ,

la tio n

i \mu o f

sir;

an’ of

th^re

rai.irvaa

say

t-Jcln^ c a r e

sdc* a n y

he a d d e d

A gricu ltu re:

i i visio n

o r none

correct.

you

Yes,

^outh

*r.y

le
of

sh ould

capable

my a n s w e r t h a t t ft u r a i a l i t t l e

think

, 0C0.

banks
ar#

reserves
Sot,

In the

i^ru n ,

or

report
of

tho

;rnks

fceep t h e i r

ether

c a n yon

differen ce
i ro*

co

which

iive

of
N ational
us

states,
those

*n
frc «
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60

V.

S.

Rowe

4358

* e r 3 drawn?

Ur.

R c»«:

Ta«.

Tha S e c r e t a r y
M r.

Rowe:

rela tio n s
lia t
not
eo

of

That

by

a ll

net

taea

d ia trlc t

us,

of

not

and i t

banka

to evary
tc

the

into

bueineee

that

or

city

in

doee
that

w hile

in

tha

lia t

and

th eir
in the

h a v e t h e a named

in the

fraa

the

varioua

st-tea

those

year,

thought

of

of

we c c u l d

correspondent

ia

d ired tory •

aurrcun ding
In d lan ap o lia,

K n o xville,

Chattanooga,

bat

p laces

the

J

ahowa we run

L c u ia v llle ,

in

a

d le trlc t,

la et

It

the

get

we t h o u g h t

8tate.

d ia trlc t

the

ha a ,

in the

tha caae

of

to

of

that

we c c u l d

ths

aap t h a t

thera

t h e map?

co rreijo n d an t

C in cin nati

any o t h e r

V irg in ia ,

*he

that

t h e Bank D i r e c t o r y

iaportanoe

each

r i £ht t h a r i T

Ie t h l e

other c i t le e

K a a h v llle,

Weet

m entioned,




re a lize !

draw ing th a t

centere

C levelan d ,

*ap

Tee.

In count le a

au fficien t

t h o ae c e n t e r e

an d any

of

*e took

co r r a a p e n d e n t a w i t h
of

?e

various

ehowe t h a t

a * inucr

vio u aly

the

that

ehowing a e c t i c n a l

In o t h e r w arde,

w ell

Ccluj«oua,

a aap

corra^pendent,

ia f a i r

pretty

Treaeury:

a aethod

d irecto ry .
Taat

fo r

naned

C incinnati

tha
la

apeak o f

bank, a c c o u n t a

ba f a i r .

have only

I

count le e .
the

*e found

would

of

May

and

I have p r a -

c a n t a r a h&a a n u & b e r o f
around

it,

and t h a t

each o n e

c l e a r i n g f o r t h e i r own d i a t r l c t ,
Ohio o r
coaaa in to /th e
ecuthem p a rt of

«c

* .S .

Ohio

coxes

one o f

ao atly

t *ose

centere

The f e c r - j t a r y
l a t icns

•

first,

Howe:

I

t hm t q u e s t i o n

clears

slth

4 3b9

them d i r e c t l y

the

where does

»1 1 1 s a y
Hr.

of

intim ate

exam ple}

frc*

Row*

fo r

Treasury:

Tc what

In d ia n a p o lis
ban kin g

to

I think

business

farm in g com sun itlee,

the

grain ,

Of c o u r s e ,

Tr.j S e c r e t a r y
stance;

are

mean b a n k i n g
Vr.

Rowe:

amounte a r e

to

Rowe:

these

of

grain
the

re la tio n s

and

an d o f

larg e,

both

With

the

trade

lon g
ways,

first

its

the

ia

ycur

re-

fo r

business?

answer

goes

and

business

counties,
onj

lak es,

east

Tak e

to

ta a lr

those

course,

L o u isv ille

the

way o r

o r the C n icasoutheast.

L o u isv ille ,
every

fo r

In­

Intim ate?

I

relatio n s?

standin g,
noth

Trsasury:

and t h e

f r o m and t o

Ann

K asb v llla

they

are

la rg e

Treasury:

At

M ash vllie

also

d a lly
L o u isv ille .
and T e n n e e s e e ?
in p roportion

oth er p la ce s.

The S e c r e t a r y

of

M r.

depends

Rowe:




Treasury:

Tee;

of

of

o r up t c

with

flg& res

in a l l

movement

your r e la t io n e

Tc*e S e c r e t a r y
M r.

C in cin n ati
the

aro

In d ia n ap o lis

O u lk o f

tbe

see t h e i r

the

o.

Each

busin ess.

in te llig e n tly .

t.rc u h

extent

takin g

do

hu t

another,

C in cin n a ti.

immediate d i s t r i c t .

In d ia n ap o lis,

wo uld h a v e

goee to C h ic a g o ;

ite

into

It

ths

u p o n the

siae

Chattanooga?
of

the

C ity .

Of

ccuree

ec

* . 3 .

C incinnati
to-day,
tory
a ll
it

b u ilt

and

to the

it

the

ha*

C irw lm a tl

fro a

Tr.s S a c r a t a r y
Chattanooga
Mr.

i igu raa.
with

go t o

of

and

Rowa:

which

a ll

hae

tha d i T f a r a n t

in

baan used

by

and e « n »

b u i l d i n g u p tfcat

and v a g a t a b l a s .

Traaaury:
kasp

it

Tfcey k ee p f a i r

Chattanooga,

aatar,

in

it

tarri-

b r l n ^ i n # up

A la rg e
coiaa

asount

diract

of

to

states.

K n o x v ille

Of couraa

tinea

Haw T c r k

those
tha

at

in itri# a n tal

and b e r r i e s

which d o a a n o t

4360

S o u t h e r n Roa

baoc

South,

tha f r u i t s

Rosa

la

To what

th air

banka,

reserve*

im possible

raaanrai

extent

h*re,

do X a s h v l l l e ,

in

C in cin n ati?

f o r m* t o hawa

th a ir

several

bm ke,

and on o c c a a i o n a

of

* ^t

tha

currency

fro a

C in cin n ati•
Tha S a c r a t a r y
b an k a k aa p
the

central

s h o u l d y ou
Mr.

of

th a ir

tha

Treasury:

raaartaaT

reserve

Where do t h a

C in cin n ati

How do you d i s t r i b u t e

c itle e ,

and

in about th a t

thas

between

p roportion ,

say?

Rowe:

I

ehould

say

tbat

Hew T o r k had t h e

la rg e st

bfeljknce*

The 8e t r e t a r y
H r.
be i n *

Rowe:

an;




the

P robably

d ivid ed

citie s,

of

betasm

fre q u en tly

Treasury:
fro a

3? t o

C n ica^c
the

What p e r c e n t a g e
40 p e r o e n t ;

and

balance

8t.
in

L o ris

the

ae

S t . Louie

about?
rem ainder

central
gettin g

reserve
la rg -

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er

t h ^ A t h e C h i c tf c ,

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s.

becauae

h a rd e r to * c f e

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it

4361

la

h a rd e r to acve

w ithout

ccat

there

T h a t i s s 1h t 3y a t r a ’ e r t l i t i c n , t h a t i s
a n y th in g
Mean/except
& trade r e l itic n .
Exch ange

an eeie

at

jChiaago,

trade tore

at

le a *

a discoun t

cor v e n i e n t l y

The S e c r e t a r y
the

of

o f the

^ rovielcn a

S itu ation ,

Act

and p r o v i s i o n s

7*owsx

W ell,

re would bs
icunts
ly r e a l
unts

it

in

on l e w

York,

does n ot
fcr
is

ln *t~

in

and * e

can

haws

on t h a

ths p a rr in g

of

excaan^s

o f sxohangea

Banka?

undoubtedly

tns

central

any c o u n t r y

in

is*

do y c u t h i n k

sake

a great

r e a s o n s w h y we s h o u l d k e e p

any

r e a s o n why
o f wo ne y

It

Whvt e f f e c t

req u irin g

w ill

no r e a l

c f roney

a ll*

other aeascns,

are going to

between th e se F e d e r a l H eaerve
Hr*

v

the ** #.
Treaeury:

cf th is

at

coat,

than Chicapc

premium mont o f t h e t l a s t h a n i t

a greater
or

w ithout

reaerve

d ifferen ce

any l a r g e

cities

ba n k s h o u l d k e e p

or

any l a r g e

a city .

o f ths T reasu ry:
The preaent s y e t e w h a s
2*r„ e
o f course,
in a v e r y / a r t i f i c a lly
l a respect

The S e c r e t a r y
su it

d,

oee s e t t e r s ,

h s

it

ion c f t h e s e c e n t r a l

not,

reserve

eer>imr e x c h a n g e b a l a n c e s
Mr*

Ho e :




It

has

Vr.

in

Howe?

c itie s,
those

concentrated

I

rean

tc

eay

the

and t h e n e c e s s i t y

cf
creat-

for

cities*

cap ital

in

those

places*

W .S .

ur.que t l m a b l y ,

and it

Howe

4362

is
also n a * - t l y t h e camae o f t r a d e s

being settle I by excliinc« cn tho3e central reserve c i t i e s ,
^y

c***; t u . g

i

le®ar.d and u s e

for

then

The Secretary o f the Treasury:

The resto ratio n o f t h e » e

o cn diticn e prorosed by this b i l l *
c o n d itic n a ,
H o >e:

Mr*

ent # r o «
was

such*

of t h e banka tc the d iffe r e n t c c s a e i u i i t i s a ,

tfsaervpa

norm al

a*

W ell,

cught t o

create

under the

a return

to

ou&ht it not?
the c o n d i t i o n s now w i l l

what they * r * - s

4C ora£0 years

be v a s t l y

d iffe r­

apo, when t h e A c t

created.

The S ec fc w t a ry

o f the

Treasury:

Tea,

but ppeaking

o f the

p r e *e n t A c t .
Mr.

have,

Ro*e:

sh ak in g

we h a v s

lam e

d e ll
th~re
in

rs

They c o s e

I

if

t o sukke a t

In f o r

n ay ,

I

I

need in

at

co vld
py

to u t hundred

account w ith

q u a n titie s,

fo r

the

thousand

ta& d e r st u n d t h s
such b

/roOto t h e H e g i c n a l

c~r

perioda

c r # 1 T O #COC o r # 3 5 0 ,0 0 0 ,1

flOC.OOC
cr

Ws

just f o r a a i i n u t e ,

season able

s ties*
Aa I
*7
aoire o c c a a i m f o r / k e e p i n g

^ ra 'im t




aake a great d i f f e r e n c e .

core f o r t h r e e

on Mew T o r k ,

Mew T o r k .

as

w ill

for o « r or?n b ^ n k ,

cua t o n e r s

would

is y c*e ok

it

1 ars^e t r a n s f e r s

ra ilro a d s.
or

Oh, yes,

th-nr

and X p r e e u c e

lances

Bank

as

and g i v e

ar.d g e t
la te r,

law ,

if

such

that
thes
c xc h « ^ 9

telegrap h ic

bg

W.

tran afern

i-e

riOffe

t h it

The 8 e o r e t a r y
IdJW w i l l

S.

have

of

the

after

Treasury:

eurrert

ju st

4363

a w h ile

that

o^ur* be d o n e *

W # n # *»xehar*£e und r

exactly

ae H a t i o n a l

thie

t,>nk-nctei

4c n o w •
H r.
sade
the

Howe:

Very

l arg ely .

when y o u o r o s s
ohecke

fr o m

cn a ban k

Of

? cu rje,

one d i s t r i c t

an d t h e

there
to

of

checks

is

a. d i s t i n c t i o n

another,

und b e t w e e n

cne c o s h e r bank

n

iattH e r.
The S e c r e t a r y
out

by C i n e 1m a t i

Mr.

Howe:

ouetcvery
{ per
at

of

cent
2 per

to pay

cent

cf

hae

in fl

ence,

tle ^ lly




fe w

convenience,
t o w a r d thfre
that

territo ry

fr

at

and b a l a n c e #

b e e n no e f f o r t
t^e

cent

that

by e i t h e r

le a st

cf

of

and

So

of

w o uld be

of

le

those

h eld

in

the

th ie
beyond

ratee

oheoke.

of

bal&ncee

ie

I

\r«
tui^k

C incinn ati

tr«nd

far

it

SC

th ^t pro bably

ser;t,*

because

render*
p*rt

are

cn w h i c h

ce e

a e we h a v e

increased

e co lle c tio n

b U

j.t 3 1 - 2 p e r

o ity ,

o$ t h e

inducem ents

eji e s t i m a t e

becauee

we

What

balances?

c o u n t r y • ank

and a or e

aerw lcee

frcv

reaerw e

irtereet,

o t 75 p e r

com m unities
an d t h e

fo r

0€ t u e

je u o h a ~ c c u n t e
beoauee

trhe T r e a s u r y :

cf
*a

C ity
ite

of
the

I
tc

that

xre h e r e

^11 t h o s e
fa c ilitie s

know,

draw

u sefu l

in terest

here

there
cap ital
>phere o f

o r the prao—

^•

The S e c r e t * r y
co lle c tio n s
Mr,

Howe:

in terest
for

of

o f the
checks

Tht-e

that

the

cel le c tio n ,

Do e*
Mr.

it

Ho re:

Be,

calle d *

it

*“* « s u l t e

o h ec k e

w ithout

cost

fo r

check
Mr.

co lle o tlc n ,
Howe:

Wo,

b a n k s rc a t e

would

ch.r.re

fo r

through w ith o u t
eer.d t h e *

that

fin an c ial
M r.

ry

th ie
center

Ho e :




the p r a c t i s e

about

ch#ck

it

in to
ocst,

fcr

the

exchange

or

And wah t i s

balance
ba£ k

as

whe e i t
W e ll,

the

rractice?

p ra c tic a lly ?
the

C ity

se le c tin g
it

can

banks

such

c o lle c t

has

correspondents•

the

effect

is

free

p ra c tic a lly ?

en tire ly ,

a great

on e i t h e r

an e q u i v a l e n t ,

country

net,

chargee

co lle c t!o n e ,

in

p lace s,

ru le

cpen c o m p e t i t i o n .

the T r e a s u r y :
ie

la

because a l^ r g e

nuwber o f

other p la c e s
although

itees

of

than C in c in n a t i

where th e y

they coat

nunb r

get

their

the p l a c e s

that

thsy

to.

The S e c r r t
tain k

ea ek

net

there

la

and f o r t h a t

elth er
of

4364

Hcuae

Treasury:

free

country

The S e c r e t a r y

It

in

the b a la n c e

■'

What

banks pay o r th e

gettin g

in

aury:

no C l e a r i n g

o f the

resu lt

He

now?

is

ec

The 8 e © r e t * r y

T f«

F•

o f the

Treasury:

C in cin n ati
o f the

W ell,

it

ie

to

extent

p re -se in e n tly

d ietrio t

seers

To wk k t

as

ua,

the

do y o u
busineee

y o u ha e l . * i d
as we h a v e

la id

it

o ut?

out

aid

4365

t-tlG -iiatrict-“—
The 8 e o r e t : r y
Mr*
that

© f the

P r e —e w i r * e n t l y 9 I

Treaeury:

"cie:
That l o the » o * t o e n t r d l p o i n t ,
be
ccu ld/acat
e t a l l y T e a c n e d by r a i l r o a d s

ind t h e p o i n t
fror

jjay

••o t lc a *
The S e c r e t
fa c ilitie s

*-y # f

and a l l

tas
of

Tre
tnoas

ury;

to-

tc

fe atu res,

the

ws a r e

trar^&pcrt \ t io n

fasti 11 * r w i t h

thcas•

Mr. Ho j

s

:

Ths S e c r e t

Tou

\rs t h r o u g h l y f a n l l i a r s l t h

^y of t h e T r e a s u r y :

Tee,

and t r a d s p r e —# * i n e n c e , we w c u l d l i k e
tc

t h *t# and as t o w h y ,

it

b e t t e r than any e t h e r

o utelds
city

in

of

tho?;T

b u t ae ths fiaaitol 4
you t c

addre>s

a c c e e a lb illty ,

the

e n tire

y cu r^ «lf i

you c o n s i d e r

d ia trlc t

fo r

th is

ban k •

Mr* Rows:

Taking ths 8ta ts of O h io ,

our s t a t i s t i c s

ahow

that a l i t t l e over one h * l f of ths Matlcnal banking c a p it a l
and surplus In the State la ecuth o f a lin e drawn eaat and
vest acroas ths n id d ls s f ths S t a t s ;
banking o*plt i l

jnd a u ^ l u s

acre than h a l f o f ths

wculd bs south c f

that 1 1 n s *

O f ths bank accounts —

I

_

____

The S tc rsta ry o f ths T r s a s u r y :

•
Where do you say that l i a s

wculd b s , draan e>at and west at what pelntT




Do you &ean

W.

the

Southern h * l f

Mr*
bank

He e :

Tha

acocuAtt

ntabrr

Rowe:

State

the

1 irgset

fc r

the

o f Ohio

Roe:

w o rk

of

reserve

ha«e
Mr.

cities,

tHsy

Re e :
it

hat
low ,

Iilitiis,


and T w i l


l

O f tha r i r i o u «

has

a greataf

I

rates

are.

ia

in C in c in n a ti,

and t h e y

dc

country
after

have

chocke
the

w e going
for

to

balances
that

bu sin ees.

o f Treasury

t he

How s u c h

after

are
th is

c o l l e c t i o n —-

g r e a t e r nuaber

i n O h io ?

h a s 8^7

accounts

in

the

d istrict*

1

« r> t h e

C le v s l * * n d has

seven

<JU tn<t

in Kentucky,
that

of

and F e d e r a l

Clcval*_ud has

q u a lify

See,

charges

Z 56 ■* c o e e n t > .

none

State,

«i»4 —

c ities

undertaken

tne

a-;k y o u

They h a v e g e n e
reserve

in

bu sin sss.

yeu w h -t t h e i r

in clu d in g

thsy

that?
accounts

have g o tte n
tsll

ia

bank

of

cut

tc

C incinnati

o ity

What C i t y

have gone

that. C i n c i n n a t i ,

: accounts.
in

clearin g

have

State.

They h a v e s o r e

they

and

ether

Treaaury:

they

r citiee ,

tha

ind—

they h o ld

W #n,

S e c re t-try

In 0>*o

of

in terest

oth

oca

o f Treasury:

thsy w i l l

th e ir

of

t h a n we h a v e

reason that

•H it

a c

Ftate,

tha

iicun t

inducem ents

ccur«e,

T

ef

ry

1366

State?

C le v e la n d ;.

The S e c r e t

Mr.

the

than C in c in n a t i*

the

what

tha

row

southern h a l f

In

Tha S e c r e t a r y
Mr*

of

S.

Tennessee

etatesent

in

or la s t

3 a o s s r .t .

O hio,

437

accounts

V irg in ia,
C in cin n ati

as—

W .S .R g ^q

ha#

in

4367

I n d i a n a 173 ‘i s c ^ u n t i . and I

*n

T lriiria ,

to u le fllla

ha#

in

ar* I a In d ia n a ;
In d ian ap o li#

43;

In Kentucky

thi#

d istrict,

423 In Kentucky,

ag a lr^ t

C levelan d ,

506 account#,

I

c f whfcah

47

and 37 in Tene i i o e .

ga?« yeu C l e v e l a n d .

In t h # d i s t r i c t ,

7;

37*

and t e T e n n e g « e «

38 6 ,

480 a c c o u n t s in t h # d i s t r i c t ,

h

a**s in I n d i a n a .
acceunt#

sa|

all o f which

l a a h v il l e ha# 374

30 are in Kentucky,

c f which

and

35 4 in T # n a e e # e e «
T cu w ill
th

t

ha#

and t h e
T oledo
th e ir

###

frc»

th# account#
o itie #

in

the

and ec

on,

in a l l

that
o f th#

n o rth e rn p -rt

do n o t g o

bueineee*

Tennessee

that

We h a v e

south

a la rg e

and W e s t Y i r g i n l a

C in cin n ati
fiv e

ia

the

states.

c f O hio,

on ly

C levelan d

C e l ur b u s ,

C le v ela

o f the O^ic

R iver s it h

part

Kentucky

busin ess

o f the

that

le

on#

trih u tv ry

and
to

C ln cln n % tl•
lo #
taken

fro#

these

places

list

in

a fa ir

th#

it

the

i#

fa ir

to

state

Bank D i r e c t o r y

have

other

d irectory,

way o f g e t t i n g

that

of

1913.

acoounte,
p robably

at

it,

these

in

sta tistic #

O f course

country
a f#w

JU3 t t a k i n g

a ll

accounts,
cases,

but

are
of

that

do

thi#

#ee»

what t h e d i r e c t o r y

claiae d .
Th#

Secret




ry

o f A g ric u ltu re :

You

hav# n o t

K e n tio n e d

a

W .S .H o ^o

city

which p ro i)o »# d

% d istric t

4366

tc

ua,

in o lu d lr^

O hio™

P ittsbu rgh .
Mr.

Ro*e:

Oh.

Th s S e c r e t *ry o f
tcurda

A gricu ltu re :

Pittsbu rgh

w as v e r y

frisn d ly

Ohio*

Ths S s o r s t

ry

ef

ths T re a s u ry :

And « a a

sillin g

to

absorb

it.
Trie S s e r e t a r y

o f A gricu ltu re :

They s a l e

a d istrict

in o l

it.
Mr.

R©«s:

Yes.

Ths 8 s c r s t a r y
oon n sotlcn
Mr*

lo ,

Ths S e c r e t a r y
in

Mr*
say

th * t ,

accounts

ars

^reat

ten!
und r

of

Mr.


c o n d itio n


figu res

in

th is

a ll.

at a l l ,
I

it

do n o t

h^d n o t t h a t

kn6*r t h a t

thsrs

Is

an yth in g

X can

Sseretary.
of

ths T re a su ry :

under

ths

A ll

that

new A c t *
s,

You e v i d e n t l y

was n o t on y o u r map*

existir,g

impc*~tancs e x c e p t

rc lss.
tne

at

A gricu ltu re :

W e ll,

Ths 8 s o r e t a r y

very

nons

y r u r wind

Rons:

tc

Yo u h a v e no

f o r Pittsburgh ?

Ro ws:

o ity

o f A gricu ltu re :

is

But

and ws w c u l d

syetsm

is

to

be

d a ta has

lik e

to

have

where t h e s e

net

rep ? a -tin g

going
the

O f course

at

a ltsrsd
scss
it

a m atter o f such
t h s moment c e r t a i n
very m a te ria lly

b sarln g
fo r

that

upon p r s s s n t

W .S .R o

r e :* e o n

a ll

R atio n al

ban ke

only*

!•;

The

secretary

Mr.

Ro»e:

these
o f the

o f the

anything: e l e e
R o«e:

The b a n k i n g

p lacee

in

0

th le

period

that

I

Treaeury:

Yo u Kay p r o c e e d # I f

w ill

territo ry

be as b r i e f

in

lo ck ed

to

fo r

s*7

flo o d s

a year

*id

that
of

are

through

*1 own,
et

and

It,

very

of




th at

there

sc that

it

1*

a pretty

^ny d e s c r i p t i o n ,

Wk l l -

I

w ith in

were

the

It

to

were

out

y tao
o ff

peop le

after

the aoney

la b o r,

could g e t

a

fu ll
I

ehare

aa

er>-

fo o lin g

C iricirn ati

sent to

two d a y s

p*y

the

think

general

fflPMVR

peop le

d o lla rs

Mr* S e c r e ­

hae done i t e

eervee.

when t h e y n e e d e d

when t h e y n e e d e d

n igh t,

you

coverin g

We h a v e one way o f r e a c h i n g

thattertttory
a tlw e

etan dln g,

the C it y

a g o , when t h o s e

thousands

at

ae p o s s i b l e ,

t he C i t y h a e w i t h

o f long

q u ick ly*

center p ra c tic a lly .
cf

that

which t l i e

;*ny c t l a w l t y

hundreds

and R a t i o n a l ?

State

rela tio n s

during

M fa

in

and S t a t e *

Treaeury:

+ s e r v i c e to the t ^ ^ r i t c r y

tlre ly

are R ation al

to p resen t.

Tea*

tary*

le n t

m n i lg

Tee.

The 8 e o r e t a r y

Mr.

4369

g iv e n us t h e r e r e l a t e s t c

the d a t a yen b a r #

Mr* Row ax

have

e

c a n be
^ irch

free
triert

every
*nd

C in cin n ati

a ll

the w a t e r went
and c o u l d n o t

which had tc
soaeth ln g

be p a i d

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b *

3.

n o s t

4 3 7 0

!

to

eat.

rmmmm >er o n e

I

ahipar e n t

in

a

box

car:

we

aent

up

_____ ____
ever

• C ffith ln f
cf

thee;

cy

wae

two.

tone

thf?e

and c u i ^ c u a

rushed
Help

in

w Le

of A ilv er

other

there

shipm ent*

w ith

extended

in

were

autoeobllea,
every

o»ef

d c lla n ,

way.

aade.

-1 t h

I

} I C O « CCC

a

think

The

curren­

pclicc&an.
t n c ie

or

people

&11 know t h a t •

he*-e
y e ire
peak

I

taut

alec.

The

to

in

sake

benke

collect,

load,

deaande

to

a

elifU t

hare

credit

*nd

the

the

? ? .^ io u *

reference

statistics

etatlaties,

pericd

th it
oad

activity,

ef

countries,

and

tc

the

it

hae

etatietlcs
taken

statistics

to

the

c r e a t e at b o r r o w i n g

the
the

*e

the*

v

kues

cf

oropa,

nd

which
the

I

length

eculd
cf

take

a

course,

th^t
The
no

of

rreat

w culd

Secret

Rc

fc r /t h e y
deal

all

hare

cf

be

at

tire
the

to
tc

be

carried,

gather
cf

eervice

ever
any

all

of

*gain.

it
That

crganix itic n

here#

cate

*atter
Wr.

tiv e

ry

where
It

e:

they

t. v e .

Yets,

it

r

I

the

the

y

T r e -.surys

reeerre

depende

eietOy

The S o o t e k a r y




of

true
of

upon

eay

in

bank

a

th

the
t

we

? re a t *

the T r e a e u r y :

W culd
le

that

Icc^t^d

value

ha ve
any

no

cf
get

in

the

be

the

true,
district?

Infcneatlon.

in f er* it ic n

nere.

pi ic««.

Bo,

but

I

wean

the

i n f e r e a*-

w • S*R e*e

1 1 on y e n l a - ’t
raeerve

that

reaeon,

if

Jo e e n o t t e a a

on t h a t

Board.

if

R~eeerve
it

They

Mr.
ban k

R© e :
ie

ted

it

reaerve

are

get

it

fr e ir

lo ca te d

anywhere

av a ilab le

lo ca te d ,

bank

ia

tec

are

en tire

C in cin n a ti,

not?

in C in c in n a ti,

to

the C in c in n a t i
in

to the

would i t

lo ca te d

d raw n r r o » t h e

be d i r e c t o r *

d istrict,
blanks,

-***>

even i f

ae t h e y w o u l d

else*

My u n i e r a t e n d i n g

looated

ie

only C in c in n a ti

Bank wae

wae l o c

where

the

that

they w ould have to
the

o h i r a o t e r would be

b a n * no a a t t a r

For th is
it

of

4 371

ia

w ould have o n ly

that

the C ity

one wan o u t

i n which th e

o f n in e,

at

■ oat*

The 8 e o r e t a r y
the

lo catio n

seen

th e-a

d irecto ry
Mr.

ef

ie
of

R c e :

lo c a l

•lie
the

that

the

*oinp

Treaeury:

I

to

be a v e r y

in flu en ce

eigh t

ef

the T r e a e u r y :
in

eo h a p p e n ,

does

sc

that

net n e c e s e a rlly

la rg e

lo ca l

in flu en ce

lo c a l

ln lu en ce

in

the

Bank.

had no t h o u g h t
cf

It

b an k w i t h i n t h e C i t y

the R e serv e

The S e c r e t a r y
of

o f the

t h e way c f

Ie,

I

at

a ll*

wae s p e a k i n g

inform ation,

w ould be e n jo y e d p s r t i c u l * r l y ,

or

however,

anyth in *

no w a t t e r w h e r e

bank w a e *

Mr.

Ro*e:

It

Th e S e c r e t a r y



would

be

at

their

o f the T r e a s u r y :

ee rv lce
And i n

if
that

it

w a there*

c o n n e c t i o n we

b«

V.

n ig h t

S.

R o««

4373

ek ycu what vould be C ln o lm a t l 'a

d i s t r i c t s « « r t l a i d out ae sug gested,

aeccnd c o c i c s

if U t

i f it did not get the

bank*

Mr* Re e :
C in o in n a t i

In any ordinary t i n e a ,

ae t h ie B i l l

ie drawn

could be prob ibly s e r v e d ju s t ae v e i l w ith a b

o f the bank, the R egirnal

Bank being put at i M h f i l l e ,

In d ia n a

pci i s ,

C o lo ib u e , C lev ela n d or alro^t any other Cuty in the
le
dietric t/
The point ee s a k e /t h i t ae do not th in k the rest
o f the d i e t r io t ae drawn would be ae w ell served ae it would
by p u t t I n f the head bank in C in c i n n a t i ,
w ith the knowledge ycu get free the
do not e e e ,

sta tistio e

i t o f ccur e would ch m g e

The Secretary o f the T reasury :

W hat,

wculd be the neat beet p lace to put it

S

a ll that*

in ycur judgm ent,
^ f t e r C in c in n a t iT

Tee*

For the whole d i s t r ic t ?

The Secret *ry o f the T rea eu ry :
t ic

to

For convenience?

The Secret *r* ©f the Treasury :
M r. Rowes

thmt we

and that you w ill g a in nt ether p l a c e e , eee f i t

redraw that d i e t r i o t ,

Mr. Howe:

I f ycu gentlem en,

Tee,

lo o k in g ,

o f ccur e ,

to

it ter# »te ©* the ehole d i e t r i o t .

M r. Rowe:

I wculd have tc study the r a ilr o ,d nap and the

t i s e o f the tra in e to t be c e r t a in




abcut t h a t ,

because I

re a lize

w. £.

th *t when & c r is is cottt ycu hdve c o t
q u ick ly .
them

lo

Thooo periods do o n e ,

4373

Po •

to g « t

tc tho homd

and ne knew —

ooki a nunber of t l * « t In my banking i c r k ,

ju « t

i

c a i c

I have eeen
and I tno*

then of f ir s t a id tc the I n j u r e d ,

r e t b e r and tike

r e s p o n s ib ilit y q u ic k l y ,

it

to get to-

uid in those c&see

you want tc go to the h e a d .
Tho Secret i^-y o f the Treaeu ry :

O f o c u r^e, w ith the he*d-»
—9

lu srters b<ink any*here In this d i s t r i c t
ae ycu eu^cest i t ,

reasceab ly

*c c e s e lb le ,

.md well placed beaneries I n the d i s t r i c t ,

ycu wculd bs In close p roalw lty w ith e?try f a c i l i t y , pirtlculsrly

in v i e * c f the fact also that ycu tr^we e x c e lle n t

telep ho nld o o t c u n l c * t l f t ,
Hr* R o e :

I

assuss throughout th le d l e t r l c t .

Ws have:

The Sseretary of the T r s a s u r y :
|r»p h t

Ae w ell ae w a ll

and t e l e *

*

Ur.

Rove:

Tee.

The

Secretary

o f the T rea su ry :

Ws always l i k e tc knew

what ths ssoend and th ird choice o f the* e c i t i e s

Is,

g iv e s us a lin e urcn t h e ir ideas as to ths r e l a t i v e

as I t
iapcrtajr.ce

o f other r l a c e e .
Vr.

Ro e :

» • took a vote sore than a ser.th ago at cne c f thi

C le a r in g Bouae w e s t in g s ,

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Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis

t

and I t shewed a good d eal of

their rut Wsw Tork as seccnd cheloe—

437*
* •

Ifc*

Secretary

tric t.
Mr.

cf

the

Y o u h ave
Rove:

I

to

to

that,

Sow

of

t h t t wanted

The
Ycu

I

The

Socket

ry

Mr.

Ro~e:

The^c

ths

there

shipm ent*
cf

curr-tiicy w o
of

ourrsnoy

od

fcr

p srlc d .

tbo
lo

its

its

t eany
Ons

Digitized
afor
l FRASER
c irc u la ti


t

,

p o ll

pin

thea

n o t made*

L c u le v illo ?

jj^d—

more

show ing

prccead,
ta.vt

tho

fro *

August
to

currency

«*eavle3t

in O ctober

b a n k e r s who

re c eiv irg

Ir

w ith

by

away

scnths

De'sevber

ii.

taa

ie

in c lu ­

s

in

fiv e

th is

a onths
tho

exc lu siv e

train
*t

cf|

i n aio lo h

md a r u i g *

tho

tlw o .

grip

sacks

a h aX t o f

it

and

October

add,

C in cin n ati

a * 1 1 1 Son and
in

tc

fiv e

period

th e ir

Rowe.

*nd H o v s a i b s r ,

T his

c iso

tho s a o a y

out

tho

p retlu a .

ar n t

in
tc

Mr.

ccrreapcndent

of

uid I n

I

service

repu tation ,

baaka

stra in ,

tcok

w o

® i 11 l e n s

king

not

ycu a e n t i c n

Tr.u o a y

ruch

th o

wen who c u e

Hm itr

on.

in

graataat

fu rn ish ed

iia -

I s»e \nt t o .

In clu d in g

ths

£*oateet
at

Did

general

by

tho

lo u ia .

e u r y :

very

that

fifte en

bein g

St.

of

territo ry .
could

com plete

Tre i u ry:
net

say

red ia o e w ta ,

a gre

to

did*

w-ta s h i p p e d
over

cor.ti^ucue

the

go

I

think

ape k i n g

xnd I n d i a a a p o l l a ,

i ln 1907,

two o c n t h e

b id

of

to

and I

territo ry ,
tho

tnlr*K

aiO rly

pan lo

siv e ,

to

1 aa

u n fc rtu n ita lp

fact

o f C oluabua

Hona:

renders,

but

and i n

Mr.

excert

ocneld; r

ry o f t b d T r e

Secret

arrka

# He

Treasury:

li n o # ,

dc«n

P

Vo
In

that

ad d itio n *

Beveetber,

4375

•e r r e d n o t lie o f ite requlrtBents before tho la s t o f it *a §
r e c e iv e d , mil c f it being r e tir e d in the fo llo w in g J a m tir y ,
February and March.

It

eimrly taken out tc » e m

d u r in g

the e t r a l n .
The Secretary of the T reasury :
.

To «k kt exten t d id ycu l s t e i

C le a r in g House o e r t iflo a t e e at that t it e T
Mr. Rome:

We ieeued no C lea rin g Hcuet eert i fi c a t e e ,

in t h e ir etead we ie e u e d C a e h le r 'e check® in 3 ' e t 5 * s ,
and 2 0 9e •

but
1 0 'e ,

Those mere lssue.1 tc the amount *cf about

1 3 ,3 5 0 ,0 0 0 ,

and mere used fo r p ayroll purpceem,

and were

r e t ir e d as soon as the n eo eeeity for t h e ir used wae o v e r .
ep e *k lrg e f th ie c u rren c y , the currency mas a l l

In

ehlpped to

marl cue parts o f the d i e t r i o t , mhenever ccr.ditlcnm in any
l o c a l i t y game evidence o f d e r le t »d r e s e r v e s ,
s s s ls t e n c e being asksd by tele p h o n e .

fr e q u e n tly

I am r e f e r r i n g nom

tc that m illio n and s h a l f of R atio n al bank n o t e s ,
c ir c u la tio n ,
p erio d .

a d d it io n a l

and to the currency me shipped during th^t

We mould get a telephone message t h .t

mers s e t t in g l o * in a town an y eh ere,
have to have c u rren c y ,

rese rv es

vnd that they mcukd

and it mam shipped out o f C in c in n a t i

and that help eae g i v e n , and the f i r e e
m iny d i f f e r e n t d i r e c t i o n s .



the

rut cut in a groat

I speak o f that to shorn

W . ~ .R © * a

4376

that tbe C ity b nkerg addept t h e i r r a a p o a fllb lllt jv ind have
always dene a o ,

for the t e r r it o r y .

Ir. the ye at 1 9 1 3 ,
fo r payroll

the lo cal b nice ehipped a lt o g e t h e r

nd orcp m o ving purrtoset, oter #40,CC,CC0 of

currency out of the C ity *

I t s ig h t ir.tereet ycu that over

f l * 0 0 0 ,0 0 0 vent into the state o f G e o r g ia , between the 30th
o f September and ths end o f O c to b e r ,

ju a t during ths cotton

•o v l n g p e r i o d .
That is r r a c t i c a l l y
wsnt to

tsk mm some

all

c e ls e *

I bats tc s a y ,

unless ycu

A ft e r ws get t h r o « g h # ws want

ths p r iv i l e g e o f having sows o f ths*»s g s n t ls r e n who ha^s cove
herr?, w xny c f t h e ir own v o l i t i o n ,
trend of t h e ir b u s in e s s ,

ju s t s lr p ly to s ta ts ths

and their p r e fe r e n c e s ,

a f t e r «e get

thrcuga w lta tne f iv e sen ws havs m entioned.

«*TATFWTWT OF GECRGK F . M FTFR T E .
The 8eo retsry of A g r ic u lt u r e ;

W ill

you s t a t e yrur n * * e ,

rtsideno o end cocup atIc n .
M r. D is te r le s

George F .

D le t o r le *

C i n c i n n a t i , O h io ;

p re s id e n t o f tfe* C in c in n a t i Chaaber of C c iw e ro o .
Ths Secretary o f Arriuml tu r e :
W r. P l e t e ^ l e :



Whst ie your occupation?

I aw T r e a s u r e r o f the Union d i s t i l l i n g C cs*

b*

W. 6 . H ove
G~on?e F . D i e t c r i e .

«3?e

pany
S e o r t t iry

ef

A g ricu ltu re :

Y c u know

the p r c b l e *

we

*r e

•M iid e n a g T
Mr.
the

D ie terie:

C ln o lo n ^tl

flia t

w ith

speakers

are

to

Coeteroe

along

caption s*

I

3 e o r e t try,

o f C oK »«roe,

r e p r e s e n t vt ' o n

Chanber e f
fou r

Mr.

C h ajsbe r

the

who

Tee*

w ould

fo llo w ,
would

that

I

aiid l a
la

tyought

present

say

flra t,

the

the

confiden ce

mm h e r e

I

the

t^ead

aade
the

o laiw s

cf

b e h a lf

order net

bein g
that

in

by

to

of

ocd-

oeveraJ

C in cin n ati

cf

C in cin n ati

ccueree

ie

through

th e Ohio T a l l e y *
Second,

of

the

peop le

in

C in cin n ati

b jr.k s *
T h ird ,
Fourth,
d iv ersified

our

C in cin n ati

a*i t h l e

In ten tion

cf

tak ing

fo r* itic n

in

d e ta il;

ta lk

d ifferen t
alon^

o f th le

it

ie

a1th

the

a w an ufaoturln g

t h e weaier&j&dur

ycur t ia e
in

eop les

the e a r g l n a l

p resen tation *




re la tio n e

South*

center

o f aaay

ln d u etrie e*

And,

three

rec ip ro ca l

fact
w ith

*nd g i v i n g
1 aw g o i n g

the

notes,

shape.

ycu a l l
to

Q o asltte e*
and o n l y

It

file
I

touch

le

n o t mj

of

th le

th le

in

in -

e l 11 h o w e v e r ,
the

high

epote

Gecrge

Th® Sto** *t i r y
Irfo rsa tlcA

of

of

the

your

F

.

E lete*- le

Treasury:

Dc y c u p r o p c a e

d istrib u tio n

lin e s

I am g o i n g t o g i v e
ju st
h a ? e / V * n t 1c n e d , namely

I

to

give

«o t«

area?

D io to rls:
fo u r

4378

in form ation
aa

to

along

tho

why C i n c i n n a t i

•u

lo

an i m p o r t a n t

that

o cw o ercla l

d iet!n o tio n

•a ttb lla h ln c
e n title

in

our

uo t o

D lste rls:

*a£ fIn al
I

of

w ill

notes

not

take

havs

oap*

acroso
it

and t h e y

I sxtendad
up t o

coverin g
Lake

s body

an a r o a

that

w ith

the

South

of

should

tho

qu estio n *

Just proceed*
the

in

high

th is

drawn logical

spots

an d t h s

setcr^n d u i,

sorowherw

tw ice

soon
by

sought
ths

not

p o rlo d

*n.1 t r u a t

ths

and h a d a w i d t h

tho

sid es

a r e a no*

rsceisd ,
by t h e

savage

o f tho

it

le ^ t

f^ n tasti-

of

as

It

Ohio

ths

by

tho

daaen

Laker.
puahod
R iver,
tho

fe rtllo

d w sllsrs,
and

a

C in c in n a ti,

O hio

covered

c liff

In d l *ns,

s

p laced

he v i c i n i t y

they o a lle d

on b o t h

When t h o w a t e r s
woro

in

w h ic h

4CC a l i o s ,

about

®ap,

when t h s g l a c i a l

v a llsy e

exterm in ated




boon g i v e n

and why t h o s e t h o d

oenne^tten w ith

alone

p reien tet

o f w ater

sevsral

E rie ,.

v a lle y s
bsin £

ssy

oastw ard ly

ths

talk

havs

th o O&lo H o v e r

foroed

in

baa

lon g*

S cien tists
oal

Waat,

tho T r a a a u r y :

I w ill
I

and w h y ~ i t

ro latlcn o

considered

Tho S s c r s t a r y
i r r*

tho a l d d l o

frien d ly

vt

po in t,

they

very

fan -

It

b*

Oeorcr# r .

tllity

D lerterle

of tftat f gicn t i J« it d e s i r a b l e ..

traveller c u e

4379

T ti* p io n e er

do«n the Ohio R iver aa the a i t u r a l lin o of

le a s t reslstsfioe, I n fin d in g h ie way « e s t « a r d 9 and th»vs f i r s t
t r a l l o of the p io neer were followed by a tra d in g poet be in g
located at Fort P i t t ,
to ulsvllls,

at Fo**t H aeer, Ilt c a t c r .e , C i n c i n n a t i ,

r J O ld Yinoernee*
"

The sap of thle g la c ia l p erio d ie in b lu e p r in t

*

form

sad le part c f the « eve r *n duv•
The early e e t t lln g o f C in c in n a t i V i i
reft

follo w ed by

and b r^e tr oisport tticn in which C lno lnn n ti

a p«rt.

took

lu lt e

3te osbctl og e a e the next etep tc octeeroe over the

Ohio R iver* and e t a r t lln g as I t v *y e « e t 9 ju s t n in e years
after: Fulton flo a te d the Cl^reont on the Hudeon R iver*

the

ffXmmmm r Pew O rleans was b u i l t at P it t s b u r g h , and sts a s b o vt
t r a f f l o beran w ith le v O rle an s*
The p op ulation trends along t h is save Ohic T a l l e y *
as is shewn by the s t a t i s t i c s
ths D hlted States Government,

i n the several

oensusee taken

^nd I preeent ths eecend b lu e ­

p r in t in the shaps o f a drawing taken f-ov the 1 0 th C en ou s,
Yoluve 1*

In vhlch you w il l f i n d that the o e n tsr o f pvpul *t l c *

fo r se r e than 1 3 0 years fcaa t r a v e lle d on %ht 39 th tori#

di a n .

The lo c a tio n e e C in c in n a t i




is

3? d e g r e s s ,

4 a ln u te s

G eorg*

Hcrth |
111

titu ie.

Just

about

35

w llss

c'

*^ sb ln gte n .

west

W ash in gton .
in gton ;

in

I r* 1650 i t
it

35

was

silss
In

1690 i t

was

40 s l l e s
of

In
In

183C

of

south

ths

alas

through
two
a

In

1B10 i t
abcu|

southsaat

south

50 s i l s s

wsst

1860 i t

in

west

of

o f Wash­

C lark sbu rg.

I n 1670
w s

at

o f C in cin n ati*

and

In d ia n a,

C ity

west

of

1910 i t

it

In

1860

was

IOC

C ln c ln x u ^ tl.
In

was

wa*

ths

o f Parkersburg.

o f C h illlc o th e ,.
In

18CC i t

tile s

140 a l l s s

35 w l l s s

about

In

was n e a r
lo o

a bcut

©f p o p u la tio n

19CC i t

40 s i l s s

B lo o w ln gtcn .

saws
Ths

is

B altim ore.

was

o f C in c in n a ti.
was

center

of

was

c5 m i l e s

A lso st,
ing

it

it

was

4360

&s 17r € # t h e

east

18~C

1640 i t
was

D ie^ t^ rlc

B altim ore;

C o lu * b u s ,

at

sast

As « i r l y

a llss

sast

F.

facts

rad iu s,

I

11ns o f
center

wa^ksd
ths

as

on

said ,
lsa st

along

o f Man f a c t u r e ,

tith is

center p a rt

wap,

but

ths

arse.

W ithin

W ith in

300 w l l s s ,




the

down t h s

s tm n ew a s

and y c u w i l l

o f O hio,

waking C i n c i n n a t i

39th ^ e r l d l ^ n ,

resistan cs

oow<»r<»d by s t a t i s t i c s ,

p o p u la tio n ,

ths

and t h s
show

center,

O hio V a l l e y .
it

fin d

not

ycu

o f C in c in n a ti,

6 ,6 7 6 .5 3 *.

W ith in

it

sees,,

is

p vs a
of

can rsa o h

on ly

g re a tsst sa n u fa c tu rsrs,w lth

100 w i l e s

way

com bination

that

fo llo w ­

3 ,7 9 3 ,1 67

*

ths

th
w ith

greatsst

an y g i v s n
?>opul t t l c n .

O fo rgi

3 0 0 a l i a s , 2 0 98 8 0 f 9 4 S 9
3 0 ,9 0 1 ,5 1 8 .

F.

4381

D l«t«rl«

W ith in a radius of 4 0 0 a l l a a ,

W it h in 5 0 0 a l i a s , 4 2 , 9 3 9 , 8 1 2 .

<>60 a l i a s , 6 2 ,4 1 5 ,1 0 3

W ith in

p s o p ls ,

Rarly barJtlnf alg ht bs cons ids rod u n l a r Caption 2 ,
shioh

1 have Ju st s t n t l c a a i , naaoly U t

oonfldsnoo

oi t a r

ps op l a , when aa point out that in 1803 tha Mlaag Export Com­
pany aas formsd in C i n c i n n a t i , h aving a ao st p s o u lla r purpoee.
Xta o h artsr stataa that i t aaa formed • to try to dosolop
fa c ilitie s

f a r ship ping g o o d * . •

Ani lnol Ian t a l l y ,

a conventional b a n i l s f b u s I n s a s .■
had th res banka to “ f a c i l i t a t e

In 1 8 1 4 , C in c in n a t i

tha sh ip p in g of g a o l s ,* ana

In 1914 C in c in n a ti haa e ig h t n a t io n a l h a n k s ,
and truat C o n p an lss,
and w ith c le a rin g s

*to 4a

30 9tats banxs

with a o a p it a l o f over $ 1 9 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ,

I n 1 9 0 0 of $ 7 9 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ,

and in 1 9 1 3 ,

of

$ 1 ,3 * 9 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 .
Our postal

re os Ip ta at t h is p a r t ic u l a r p erio d l a 1 9 0 0

aoro $ 1 , 2 9 1 , 0 0 0 , and in 1 9 1 2 , sore $ 2 , * 2 1 , 0 0 0 .
an d a l l of thsoo o t i l l

Each

• f a c i l i t a t i n g tho s h ip p in g of go o ds9 ,

a i d i n g tha f a r a s r , ths s i n s r , the san ufao tu ra r , to b r in g h io
p ro iu o ts to s s l « 9 and e n a b lin g a l l of thee to pay a l l l l o n s
d o lla r s 1st ops ra tin g s x p o n s o e , in c lu d in g a n ass rags » s s k ly




of

George F . D l e t e r l e .

p ay ro ll of a B i l l i o n d o lla r *

4 £8*

to aany p e o p le .

C in c in n a t i baa withstood U «
and 19C7 without any dins e f f e c t s .

panice of 1 8 73 *

1B33

O c n t t n m i i v i b a n k in g ,

ecabins 1 with ths o o rd lal co-operation of ths banks w ith
•a o h

other through ths e x c e lle n t C ls a r in g Hcuss A e e o a l a t l o * cf

C i n c i n n a t i , has s n a b ls d C in c in n a t i to w eather ths etenee

-i. ich

soss

other c i t i e s , ls s s fav o rab ly s i t u a t e d , havs found so rt
d i f f i c u l t to overouse.
Vo payroll i n ths O ity of C in c in n a t i
has ever been d s f a u l t e d , and ths confidence

of our people Is

great.
I alfh t
in grsat p a r t ,

that tbt p e p u la t le n o f C in c in n a t i e o u l t t o
of fo r e ig n or born fro a fo r e ig n p a r e n t a g e .

They

haws ad dad not only a r t i s t i c tenperaaent an d m echanical s k i l l
but havs i n s t i l l e d in to C in c in n a t i the s p i r i t
th rift.

of sconoey and j

Savin g d e p o sits and b u il d in g a s s o c ia t io n s and e a t in g s

banks havs aads C in c in n a t i a city of h o s e s ,
Ths Sseretary o f A g r ic u l t u r e :

I think i f

you w i l l

o * i t t h is h i s t o r i c a l part e f your n en eran d u n ,

H r . D iete r l e :
preoal

it e lll

juet
save

1 n ig h t how ever, deeire to m ention the

r e la tio n e with the ? o u t h .

The e a r ly exchange of pro-

ducte with the South b u i l t up ree ip re o al r e la t io n e a lo n g



r e e l*

Q«ors«

r. D i«t«rl«

4383

th* Or«iio * n i tb« K la a lt t lp p l R iv e r a , an4 our s * r o h a n t * , aany
the* s t i l l l a b u i i z M i i , a t t r ib u te
ssrly

t h e ir eucoeee to t h *

iajri »ben they took every character o f go«4t to lea

O r i e e a * a n l t o l l the a in the aarfce ta •

They ore a ted by that

d i r e s t oonneotion a n i that buelneas in the S o u th , many f r i e n d ­
ly r e l a t i o n s .

T h e ir b u * l n * * *

wae c o n fin ed a lo n g the

l l n e e o f a s t e r n a v ig a t io n , and i t l e f t s fond le e ire

o f g e t t in g

sn d o on t r o ll in s so re o f Southern t r a d e , and as s a r ly a s
1 6 3 # * 9 1 * 0 0 0 ,0 0 0 «aa aaoeerihed fo r the b u il d in g of s
11 ree tly eosth

rosd

to get tho Central Southern trade sn d tae

ffcu these tern trade *

They eay that on the evening when thst

s i1 1 1 on l o l l s r e ass e u b * o r l b * d ,
| i s ehlah ths e in d s e s

they had s grand j u b i l a t i o n

in our C ity s t t h s t tine mmrm l i t with

thoues nde o f o s n i l * * , snd eo f o r t h .
s f< s4 hope, snd ass s o t

I t a a * , however,

only

~ * s l l * « d # fo r ssny r e a e c n a , u n t i l

1 8 6 9 a hen our —
Tk«

S io rtU rjr

o f A g rla u itu r*:

11X1 y o u n e t

Just

b ait

U w t,

P lM kM .

M r.

D letorle:

r e fe r e n c e
slnt.

You *1 1 1 s i l o * s e , how ever,

to ■ * * • aose

to th* b u il d in g of t h * Southern B a i l road s t t h l *

I t sas c o n p l*t *d a t a n expenae

oo v*rs s length of 336 n i l * *



from

of f 2 3 #0 0 0 #0 0 0 snd

C in c in n a t i

to Chattanooga —

••

o« c r e «

^

"•o r t U r y

o r A g ric u ltu re *

you omit i t beoauw?

r . D le t e r le *

I aa n o t

it h a a no baa r i n g ,

43S4

an m e e t in g that

but baeauao a o aro

vary f t a i i U r * 1 th i t *
M r . D l o t e r ie :
| ly fo o lin g

Too ara

f a m ilia r with tha ra a l g o o d f r io n 4 »

that tha Pouth haa T o r tha City o f C in c in n a tiT

Tho Soorotary ol A g r ic u lt u r e :

Y ea, and a l e c tho

indue t r i a l

e v o lu tio n that nao taken p la o a .
*r.

D leterle:

fo r many y o a ro .

C in c in n a ti haa b e e n a mnmifaotu ring center
I t prldee

i t e e l f upon the mareeloue growth

and by ito fo r e ig n population it haa o id e d o a io n t ie t e and
neohanloe to t h ie 6 it y »

ao that to-day it oooupioo an im portant

poeitlom in many b raro h e e.
lo

th ie,

thooo

The point that i *aant to mn*e

that tho d i e e r o l f i e * in tere a ta

that aro oom prleo* in

in d u etrie e w it h in the Vlty of C i n c i n n a t i ,

oaro f u l l y M M Ida red in D m

ehculd bo

etudy of thia q u e e t ic n .

According to tha a t a t la t lo a ycu w i l l

f in 1 that

C in o ln n a tl haa many ln d u e t r l e e , aa compared » i t h e t h e r lnduo—
t r le o

that have a foe o f a large amount, and theoo

otory ahloh 1 need not t o l l a t le n g t h ,
net te b a n
effo rt*

to any on* or %ny

i n * to th*



m nj one

t o ll a

i n aa muoh ao i t

ore—

lo c a t io n oc.r.f 1 n« i t *

l* r g « i r . U r p r l » « » .

flguroo that «r* ber» p r e a « n t « 4 an d « •

Acocri-

th in k that

ss

Osergs

F*

thsy are o o n v in a ia g , « 1 U

4365

D leterle

any panics which s i g h t oca# o ? t r th#

co un try , C in c in n a ti e l l l eu f t m r leee thar. i f
ft*

In d n e t ric e

it

ia pan dad ext a

in large a a o u i t •

Thera it a tab Ia whicfe f o l l o w * in 4»t c c u r e e ,
which the t o ta l l n l u s t r l t s
c f 1 9 1 0 arc g iv e n ,
•p a c ific

lin e s

in

o c e p iic d in tha Census Rapcrte

which show that theee aan u iac tu re e are

in

item isin g 37 in d u e tr ic e amounting tc

| * « 0 , 0 0 0 ,0 0 0 .

The Userstary of the T reeeu ry :

That ie i n i u a t r i c e alo ne cf

C in c in n a t i?
M r. D leterle:

Be c e l l that the M etrop o litan D i a t r l c t ,

in c lu d in g that pert of Ham ilton County which la not a cor­
porate

part of C i n e i i u u t i t and a l e c Wewpcrt across the r i v e r ,

an d the O ity c f Covington across ths r i v e r ,

ths importance

e f theee te e e i t i e e b e in g in euch close proxim ity with
C i n c i n n a t i , mad j s c u l l l ik e you to c o n sid e r that the popula­
t io n c f C in c in n a t i le approxim ately 6 0 0 , 0 0 0 in s te a d of
4 6 3 , 0 0 0 which aae accorded in the oensue of 1 9 1 0 .
The Secretary c f the T r e e e u r y :
M e tr e p e llt a n D le t r lc t
M r. D l e t e r l e :
The

Secretary




Ycu are epeaklmg of the

ef C in c in n a t i?

Tee.
cf

M gri c u l t u r e :

in i

w ith in

shat

radlm a?

Os c r g s

Mr. D l t t t r l t :

F,

Die terle

4 386

Y lt h in a radius of not « i o e « 4 1 n ^ tan w ile s

fro m t h is b a ll d in g .

You *1 1 1

fin d a table

la and 13 ehloh 1 t e a ls * th* lapcrtano*
s a d X w i l l n *t r*ad t h e * .

there

of t h * * *

«n pages
in i u * t r i e * ,

Ia conclusion 1 * 1 1 1 *ay that

th* O ln o ln n a ti Chaaber of Oowweroe preeent* f o r your ccne l i e r a t i c n # the oaptlone under which theee fao te have b e *a
preeen ted to you , n ew cly,
Oh l* T a lle y ,
ban**,

the trend of oowweroe 1* through th*

th* o o a fld *n o * o f th* p *o p l*

in C in c in n a t i

ear rec ip ro c a l r e la t io n * with t h * ftouth, and C in c in n a t i

a * a w a n a f*c t u r in g center of w*ny d i v e r s i f i e d

In d u etrlee.

I t had b * * a oar In t e n t io n of p resen tin g theee

in p y ra ald f o r a ,

•a c h

cap tio n to be a block of g r a n i t e # a l l

•t m c t u r * .

oowpletlng th *

V* had in ten ded to rest t h is p y r a a ld apon a s o l i d

fown 1*t l o n , — de up of t h e ir c a r e fu l o o n e id e r a tio n by your
O o aalttee,

cee e n ted , a * i t w ere, by your f e e l i n g o f gocd * 1 1 1 .

a* * 1 1 1 * l l w l n a t * th* p lo tu r * we have eo b e a u t i f u l l y
d raw n , and eloee by o ffe r in g to you our p rayer* that * h a t * v * r
your c o n c lu s io n *1 1 1 b* 0 thst you *1 1 1
aa tl*fy a*n y.

d l**p p o ln t but f e e , and

Me hope that the e l * hundred thousand people

a a k ln g ap M etrop o litan C in c in n a t i and t h e ir w i l l lone of fr le n d e
South,

S t r t h , Eaet and t e s t , * * y bs eusong the waurty ehow yoar




O ecrge F. D U t t r l a ,
C fe »rli§ A . H lnioh

We* i f

X My

file

thle etsoraniuB —

The Secretary of A f f l o u l t i i n :
Ae a m atter ef f a e t ,

4 387

We e h a ll read i t e lt h o & r e .

1 have already gone ever i t *

Ie e c i t *

body c o in * to preeent the d le t r lb u t lc n area?
if.

D leterle:

What d le t r lb u t lo n do you neanT

The Seore tary of A g r ic u l t u r e :
lu o t e ,

Of your m anufactured pro*

the area of your d le t r lb u t lc n of ycur great bu eln eee

boueee?
Sr.

D leterle:

I have an id e a there ie etae wap here ahioh

ie t e be eovered by P rofeeao r Hlcfca, bu t I di not go in to
that beoauee I fe a re d I eould take your tleee u n n e o t e e a r i l y .
Our — n ufao tu red produote go a l l
The Seorvtary of A g r ic u lt u r e :

over the e o r l d .
I nean your d le t r l b u t io n

and ab oleeale b c u a e e ,
, M r.

D leterle:

They are a le o covered in e t a t l e t l o a l

flg u n e e ehioh e l l l be r u m i e h e l you .

PTATTWTWT OF OBARLXS A . KIWFCH.
The Seoretary of the Truaaury :

W i l l you give your n a e e #

reeiier.ee ard o c cup atio n.
H r . Hi re oh:

Charlee A* H ln e e h ; P r ee id en t o f the C in c in n a t i

C le a r in g Heume A e e o o la t lu n , and o f the F ifth - T h ird



••

C harlaa

A.

H i n a oh

4388

U t i c n a l Bank*
M r. R in to h :

At a M a t i n g of tha C in c in n a t i C le a r in g

Hcuaa A aaoolaticn haX4 T u a a c U /, Daoeabar 213rd# 1 9 l 3 f
tha

r a p r a a a n U t i v a a of tha Eigh t W atlcnal Banka u n an lao u aly

raaolvad to r ao oaiaand, to th a ir raapactlva in c t i t u t ic n a

to

aooapt tha taraa and provialona o f tha Fbdaral Raaarva A c t .
B a lia v lo g Cinoixanati to ba a l o g ic a l
Fadaral Raaarva Bank, A Coaarlttaa of thraa
f u l l paaar to a c t ,

lo c a t io n fo r a
*aa a p p o in t e d , • i t *

to praaant tha o la ln a c f our O i t y .

Tha f i r a t c o n a lla r a t io n of cur C o ealttaa waa tha
io n o f a D ia t r io t which »<4ild aa naarly aa p o a a ih l a , ba in
harm on j with tha previa ion of tha A c t ,

rwadlng,-

•That tha d ia t r io t a h a ll ba ap p o rtic n ad wfcth dua
ragard to tha convanianci and atatcaary oouraa o f b u a l n a a a ,
and ah a ll not M c e e a a r i l y ba c e t a m i n o u a w ith

any S ta te

or fit* t e a . "
Aa tha raau lt of our d a l i b a r a t i o n a , wa hava out—
lin a d a D ia t r io t,

purauant to tha aapraaaad wiahaa of your

Honorable O a u a lt t a a ,
O h io ,

oo nalatlng of tha fo llo w in g Btataas-

In d ia n a , l a a t V i r g i n i a , Kentucky and T an n aaa aa.
Aa thia D i a t r i o t , w ithout %quaatlcn, w i l l ba a ore than

a a lf- a u a t a ln ia g , tha D ia t r io t



o cuid with a a fa t y ba a n la r g a d by

• •

the

a liitio n

of

one

C h a r i*#

A.

B i n s oh

or nor*

sc

o a lltd

4389

Cotton f U t « s »

o r parts

thereof •
Th*

5«orotary

of

the

Treasury:

Which,

fo r

in etan o e,

so u lil

yon M 2 g « * t ?
M r# H insoh:
f U 9 or

V e il,

Secretary

Mr.

H in soh:

b*oau*e

eeotio n ,

o f th*

le a l

reney

aov**

*ay a l l

ee

have

Treasury:

q u ite
loan

o f bn ein ***
that

any

Thie

lie tric t

eent

of

the

How a b o u t

the n o r t h e rn *n d

through

aovee

of

th*

cay,

and a

down i n

great

that

le a l

of

o ro p m oving p e r i o d .

184,640 * q u a r *

th*

that n igh t

Ala b ana and O o o r g la and a

that

o o sp ri***
of

any O e c r -

M ississip p i?

a g o o d na ny a c c o u n t s

lu rin g

area

o f A lab an n and

the r o o f ,

l * l l # p o ssibly

e sp e c ia lly

great

5 per

sh o u ll

tli* n o r t h * rn p a r t *

Th*

be,

I

*n tire

n il**,

or

country.

1 3 , 1 6 1 , 0 0 0 p o p u l a t i o n ..................................... 13 per o e n t.
1,OOP n a t i o n a l
2,561

Stat*

H ank *

Bank*

,

• . • • • , • 1 4

.............................. 13 pe r

984,366,000 C oabined C a p i t a l
£ P u r p l u a ..................................... . 1 0

1 ,7 1 6 ,2 3 4 ,0 0 0
flee
Th*
e *l*o tic n




coabined

E xh ibits

fo llo w in g
of

the

l*p o »it*.

A,

faot*

p* r

.

.

.

.

,

per

o*nt

o*nt

8 per

B and C a t t a c h e ! .
**r*

d ie trio t:*

potent

fao to r*

in

cert.

th*

cent

eni^

••

Cos r i s e

A.

R lnto H

4390

F l r e t . A ft d t r a l Reserve Bank composed o f only the
R a t io n a l flanks In the D i s t r i c t sould be p o s s lb ls h a v in g a :
C a p it a l e f ............................................................ f l l . 7 5 8 ,0 0 0
Dsposits e f

.......................................................... 4 2 . 5 3 6 . 0 0 0

la sue of F e le r a l Reserve
Hetee
L

.......................................................................2 9 . 3 9 5 . 0 0 0

Loans of

................................................................ 5 7 , 0 4 4 . 0 0 0

T h is dose not include ad lit!octal U. 9 .
Autsori ssd toy the Federal Reserve lo t *

D eposits

In c lu d in g the State

Banks of the n i s t r l o t . a Bank sould be poeelble having a t
C ap ital e f ............................................................ # 2 3 ,0 6 2 , 0 0 0
Depoeite e f
Iisu s

..........................................................

e f Fbdsrsl Hessrve Rotee

S 6 .S 1 3 .0 0 0

..................5 7 . 6 5 7 . 0 0 0

Louie e f ................................................................ 1 1 5 . 0 0 0 .0 0 0
In our c k i o u l a t U n e we have not e lim in a t e d the
fttate Beaks in e l ig i b l e

on account of not h av in g s u f f i c i e n t

c a p ita l•
an d:
su stain in g .
o n sdlt.

Thle S e c tio n s o u l d .

slthout q u e e t io n . be sslf-

in c id e n t to the evenly d ie t r lb u t e d lemand fo r

lu rin g the eemeral eeasons of the y e a r .

3 rd:

It mould be m m ail b a la n c e d d l e t r l c t .

on

account e f the d iv e r s it y e f a g r i c u l t u r a l p r o d u c t s , w h e a t.



C h a r i ee

o o rn #
Uval

A•

H ln to h

tohaooo, h ea p , « 1 U

4391

eoae ootton a n i

8t«r»«.

The ( P e n u r y

o f the f m a e u r y :

Have you prepared any sap

ehloh ehove the ro tatio n of c red it demand in that d i e t r io t ?
H r . Hina o h :

lath in k we have i t .

The Seorotary of the Treaeury:
ile&ram m atio;

T e e # h ut that le merely

1 mean have you figuroo whioh »o u ld s i * *

the

lomanle fo r the whole d ie t r io t?
H r . H inaoh:

l o , not fo r the whole d i e t r i o t .

Tho fleoretary o f the T rea eu ry :

Could you s e t that t o g e t h e r

a n i e e n i i t to ue?
H r . Hi no oh:

I think ee o a a .

Ite production of raw s a te r ia l e , o o a l ,
o t o .,

i r o n , wood,

eaootrage a wide and v a ried produotion of a a n u fao tu re d

pro duo t o .
Vo r o e p e o tfu lly reooaaend and requeet your Honorw
•k l *

C M M ltU t

to 1 o o » t * »

Te Xm ral

It o M n r t

B uU

in C i n c i n n a t i ,

f o r tfco f o i l o n i n * r t a a o n *:le t:

Twenty ~Rallroada rad iate from C i n c i n n a t i ,

S o r t h , S o u th , Seat and V e e t ,

rendering; i t p ee e lb le

to re a oh

O ln oim n ati by r a i l from any o ity in the D i e t r i o t , » 1 t h In
a m aalaea o f eay ten h o u r e . * H a ll or ourrenoy oan ho oent



••

C h arles

to or fr o * C in c in n a ti

A•

4 393

H in so h

In one n ig h t *a

run*

C in c in n a ti haa tho l is t in c t l c n of h a v in g c o n stru o te i
tha C in c in n a t i Southern Railway * *ex ten tin g trcm C in c in n a t i
to Chattanooga, a distance
(3 3 8 )

M llsa*

of Throt Bund rod A Thlrty-<ff ig b t

Thio propsrty ia o t i l l osned by tho 8 i t y # and

le a s e d to tho 0 .

*•

0 . 4 T* P . R a i l s a y , and la tho soot valua­

ble a s s e t ef our C ity *
Our e x c e lle n t telogrepfc and telephone aervioe
fa c ilita te s

the speedy efcipsent ef o u r m n c y ,

t r a n e fe r of

fun da * and onsdite •
and,

C in c in n a ti ie

o e n te r of population*
D is tr ic t

the neareet large o lty to the

the population o f the M etro p o litan

of Clnalnrvati b e in g n ea rly S ix Hundred Thousand

(6 0 0 *0 0 0 ).

Twenty m il l io n ( a o * 0 0 0 * 0 0 0 )

people

reeide * 1 t h in

a raJLiue of Three Hundred n l l e e *
3rd*
ecu t h e m

C in c in n a t i is n e it h e r a n o rth ern n cr a

o lt y ;

ie located n ear ths border of three great

8tet*»e* U i i o t In d ia n a and Kentouky,
4 th *

In the e e t a v iia h s e n t of the 9ub-Trsasury in

C in c in n a t i * *the Government rta o g s ise a Uio g e o g rap h ical and
e t r a t e g i e a l r e la t io n of ths e lty to t *e d e n s ity sf
t io n *

aad tea ^ l u s t r i a J L aad a g r ic u lt u r a l a c t i v i t y e f the




••

C harles

A.

«39>

R in so h

d istric t.

5th.

C in c in n a ti

la & Rettrvt C ity s n i the

oo«ee r o la i o r . ter of ths d ie t riot s e le o ta a by our
C o w l t t e e , ysn4 banks lo o atsd i n s u b s t a n t ia lly tvsrp
county in tbs d i s t r i c t s a in t a in b u sin ess r e la t io n s with t h is
c i t y , many of tbsn have exp ressed in w r it in g a p reference
f o r the lo c a t io n o f a Federal Reserve Bank in C i n c i n n a t i ,
e t a t i n g that the n a tu r a l trend of t b e i r b u e in e e s ie toward thii
C lty k
The d e t a ile d repecneee w i l l be subm itted in ths c e n t ra l
brief*
The Secretary e f the T rsae ery :

To what exten t have those

expreeelone frou banks bse n s o l ic i t e d ?
lfr. Winscht
whole
Mount

W ell,

1 think we aektd each bank in t h ie

d i e t r l c t to in d ic a te

the trend o f t h e i r b u s in e e e , t h e

e f currency that they r e q u ir e d , and fro u there they

r e c e iv e d it —
The Secretary of the T r u M - r y :

Have you a copy o f the

l e t t e r a id r e e e e d tcthe bankeT
M r. B in e c h :

Tee,

i think we h a v e .

I w i l l see that you

Set on e.
The Sec re tary of the t r e a s u r y :

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You M y

F®u put i n a espy o f the in q u i r y

put those i n ,
to g e th e r with

tha

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4 394

rtply# a n i they nay b« a t U o h t d as an e x h ib i t to ycur
testim ony*
Mr* Hlmsoh:

T h is map w i l l in d lo a ts to your m in i* very

q u i c k l y , tho nnmber of the banks and the r s m lfio a t lo a of tho
b u e ln s s s of C i n c i n n a t i .

P r a c t ic a lly every county in t h is

whole d ie t r io t hae a rod dot in i t *
aro

That in d ic a t e s there

one or eore accounts kspt in C in c in n a t i by the banks

lo c a te d in that county*
Ths knswlsdgs o f ths mssds and o r s d its

of ths

d i s t r i c t , p rsd io ated upon the cloee personal contact o f tho
banks s f C in c in n a t i with

th e ir correspondsnte throughout ths

t s r r i t o r y , would bs a v a ila b le and of great value to the
F e Is ral Hsssrvs Bank,
C in c in n a ti i s norm ally an easy monsy n a r k s t , and
i t I s ssldsm that any o f the banks in t h is c it y shew s l t h s r
a B i l l s Payabls Account or P i l l s R s d ls o c u n t s d .
t h is

Ths banka of

city havs g iv sn a g o d account of them sslvss

ths ss vs ral f i n a n c ia l c r is e s

luring

which have ewopt the c o u n ty ,

and the dlp o eltlo m , a b i l i t y and courage shown by C in c in n a t i
banks in s xtsn d ln g a i d to t h s l r correspondents i n tlm ss of
fim a n s ia l s t r e s s , account to largo s x t s n t for t h s lr
lo y a lt y to t h is c i t y , and of t h e ir d se lre f o r a c o n tin u a t io n



C b&rlta

or th#

A.

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4305

relation # which haw# #x i#t#d in thm p a s t .

Th# P#crr U r y

of

th# T r # M u r y :

a# that #xpre##ed by Mr. Hew#,
not a o tu a lly

I a n 91 your b e l i e f the • & # •

on that p o i n t ,

that ycu

relieo cu nt or that there ie any in d ir e c t

ic
re-

d ie o o u n t in «?
H r . H lneoh:

1 do not b e lie v e

there ie any p rac tic e

of

that hind in th ia c i t y .
The S e o m t a r y or the Treaaury:
H r . R in ec h :

Vo i n i i root

re ii# count ingf

V o# not to ay knovtdge.

Th# bamke c l C in c in n a t i chipped |13,?5> 4, 0 0 0 . 0 0
o u r r .n o / to U io lr o c r n t p e n i t n t *

In O h io ,

In d ia n *,

Voot

V i r g i n i a , Kentucky a#4 Tenne###e f r o * Auguet to
D eo ee^er i n c l u s i v e ,

in th# year 1 9 0 ? , aoat c f which wae

ch ip p ed during th# non the c f October and Voveabe r ,
p erio d c f the currency p a n ic .

Thi

the extreme

dcee not inolud#

cy d e liv e r e d d irec t tc th# repreaentatlvee

ourren-

c f our correep cn d*

•n t e .
(See E x h ib it » . )
On January 1 3 ,

1914,

th# V a tio n al Sanaa c f C in c in n a t i

h a l depoelta from e th er bmnke o f # 3 1 , 5 0 1 , 4 1 3 . 0 0
to the bank# lo c a t e d in th le d l e t r l c t .




lue la r g e ly

C h arlt* A.

The ° * o r » U r y

H ln so h .

of tho Treaeu ry :

4 396

That lo S U t o

eund n a t ic n o l

of c o u r s e .
H r . H lneoh:
Theee

Too.

lo pool to a n

tho

rooult of y e a r * o f poroonal

e f f o r t , and alt ee a t t e n t io n to the into roeto o f t h e ir pat rone
a n i not 4ae to the e x te n o iw i o f abnormal terse in an e f f c r t
to a t t r a c t balan ce* from t h e ir le g itim a te
nth.

oh an nelo •

The oamoinel reeourcee of the Wotlonml BarUo

of O inein m ati are

the larg e e t o f any oity

in tho propoee 4

dletrlct.
They bad on January 1 3 ,
C a p i t a l , Smrplu* of

1914:

.................................................... # 2 3 , 1 6 4 , 0 0 0

Do pool to t f . « ............. ............ ............................. ..

75 , 9 0 0 , 0 0 0

The N atio nal end State banlte combined h a d :
C a p i t a l , Surpluo * F ro flto

o f ..................# 3 4 , 9 3 3 , 0 0 0

Do poo 1 to o f ..........................................................
(« ••

1 3 5 ,3 1 4 ,6 0 0

Kxtolbit K . )

The C lea rin g Hcuee banio of C in c in n a ti
tore

recently a l l o t t e d $ 1 , 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 crop moving money by the

Honorable Secretary of the T re a e u ry .
*e waived our righto to oaao,
av a ila b le
Th le




thu»

Am eo d id not meed i t ,

rendering the funAe

to other eeotlcm e.
ie

a

fu r th e r ev id en c e

cf

the

etablllty

of

thle

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C harleo

A.

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4397

d ie trio t.
Th* * h i p « * n t

of « ir r *n o y by th* bank a of C U io ln n ati

to t h a i r oorrtipuivU ntt ia tha p r o p o M l d ie t r io t t e r i & g tha
y e a r 1911 amounted to $ 4 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 ,

acid J u r i a * tha aaaa

[ p a r i a d , laaaa ta eorruepaadaata aara exten ded a t r t a s m a b l c
r a t a a , l a ha ra any « i U

tha b alan ce* m a in t a in e d •

Tha Bearetary of tho Treaeury j
a b lo

I
I

lo

jroa a* an by rtmaon-

ratooT

H r . H iaao h :

th ia

What

per l a d .

Z would aay along about f i v «

par ooat

t n r ia i

I t haa baaa pretty t i g h t , ycu k n e e .

In tha exofcange operation*

between tha la r g a aon«y

o a n t a r t , exohange rataa la this C ity aro aot eubjeot to
v lo le a t f l u o t u a t l c a a , aad exohange la fu r a ia h a d to eorreepoad-*
aata

praotlefclly at par a t a l l aatacna « f tha y e a r .
7th.

la r g a a t

Tho baak ol o a rin g a of C in c in n a ti aro tha

ia tho d i a t r i o t , tho to ta l for tho y o ar b ein g

$ 1 1 9 ,4 3 3 ,0 0 0 .0 0

(Boo E x h ib it G .)

Tho 8oorotary of tho yreaeuryt

Oa that polat o f baaa

ol e a r I n g e , aa f i a d ao auoh a r t i f i c i a l i t y
o lo a ria g a ,

we lik e

la thoao baak

to got eee* ocaparlecn* aa a a l l aa aoaa

in f ora* ti oa abuut thoa*

Bow

plaooo thoy aa o a t o bo very

l a r g e l y a r t i f i c i a l , aad i a eeae o lt le e they aro a la o o t « h o t l y



• •

C h arles

A.

H *n sch

• o f and then a g a in they uaea d iffe r e n t

4396

a y *te a in every c it y

f o r bank c le a r in g *

There are

w h ile ycu nay state

th* anount t h e r e , *e co uld l ik e a t the

ease

tin e ,

d u p licatio ns

of ite ae *

eo that

to have ycu give ua an id ea of hoe they are a a d *

up.
M r. Rina oh:

The e ettle a e n t here ia la r g e ly i n c a s h .

O c c a s io n a lly I euppoee a oank not n eeding the money, a l^ h t
p o s s ib ly carry over the oredit u n t i l

tho fo llo w in g

day, but

the large banke here have euch a demand upon then fr o a th ie
g r e a t a r e a fo r orop novlng noney and fo r shipments of
ournnoy

fo r varlcai* purpoeee, that they nuet oi neoeeeary

o o lle o t the o r e d it ite n e to supply th«in eitfc the n eoeeeary
noney to supply t h e ir correep on dente.

That is la r g e ly

I t s c u ld be somefchat d i f f i o u l t to get a l l
th a t o a s s .
usee.

true.

the exaot fa c t s

Faoh bank eould have to t e e t i f y to t h e i r own

I t n ig h t be in t e r e s t in g to oonpare t h e e e .

C i n c i n n a t i , l l o , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 ; C lev ela n d —
The Secretary o f the T r e a s u r y :

I f you sho uld state

the

b a e i s upon which each C ity c l e a r s , we e o u ld l i s t s n to i t ,
otherw ise i t is not worth w h i l e .

MMMN

M r. H in so h:
6th.

T h is is sin p ly

taken from B r a d s t r e e t s .

V Ith ths oo np letlo n by ths Government
and

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Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis

in

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in

C h arles

A.

H in eo h

4399

M e Ohio R iv e r , C in c in n a ti s i l l enjoy a n ln s foot stags

o f e a te r the year round, f r o * Pittsburgh to ths O u lf o f M exico ,
thus in s u r in g the loeeet poeelble tra n sp o rtatio n rates f o r
all

of the Ohio T a l l e y . ,
(S e e E x h ib it H ) .
© th.

The In te rn a l Revenue C o lls o tio n e o f thle

d i s t r i c t amounted la e t year to # 1 0 , 1 0 2 , 6 4 6 . O O .
lO th.

The Poet—O ffic e

of C in c in n a t i ie one of the

moet important in the country, our r e c e ip ts having in c r s a e e d
in 1 9 0 0
from # 1 , 3 4 1 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 / to # 3 , 7 1 5 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 0 in 1 9 1 3 .
Unit r the provleione o f the V re e la n d A 14 rich B i l l ,
the C le a r in g House banks of C in c in n a t i formed The n a t io n a l
Currency A eeo o iatlo n of C i n c i n n a t i , om bracing:
11 Countiee in O h io ,
5 Countiee in Eentuoky,
3

Countiee in In d ia n a . -

A t o t a l memberehlp of 37 b a n k e , the la r g e e t memberehlp in the
country un der the A c t , w ith combined c a p it a l and eurplue of
# 3 6 ,6 3 4 ,0 0 0 .0 0
«e havs sv sry c cnfld sn os in our a b i l i t y to prove
our c a e e , and tru st that ehen a llt h e fa c t e an d ev id en ce are
p r s s s n t s d to y o u , your v s r d lc t e i l l bs fa v o r a b le to ue



C harles

T o r the eetabllehm ent

A.

4400

K ln»oh

o f a Federal Reeerve Bank In C i n c in n a t i *

Tho Secretary of tha Treeeury :

You nay f i l e

that In t r i ­

p lic a t e « it h the reporter^
Hr* H ineoh:

I w i l l . y e*.

The Secretary of the Treaeu ry :

j.

.

.

.

Take the t e r r it o r y of Worth-

•

“

“

trade a n 4 hanking rela tio n e eculd he very Intim ate e lt h
C h ic a g o , e o u l i they notT
lfr. H in eo h :

H a t u r a lly #

The Secretary of the T r ta e u r y :

Hoe nuoh of that t e r r it o r y

e c u ld you eay should go to Chicago^ I f a hank ehould be lo c a­
ted there?
H r . H in eoh :

W ell,

I ehould eay probably one t h i r d .

The Seoretary o f the T rea eu ry :
H r . H lhech:

A t h ir d of It ?

One t h i r l of the S t a t e .

The Secretary of the g re a e u r y :

What about In d la n o p lle

ltelef?
H r . H in eoh :

W ell,

they do a g reat

leal e f bu eln eee e l t h

C h ic a g o , and they lo a great le a l e l t h C i n c i n n a t i .
The S ecretary o f the T r e a e u r y :
H r . H ineoh:
The

Seoretary




Where do they do I t uoet?

* n lcu b ted ly C h ic a g o .
of

the

Treaeury:

If

that

e h o u ld be

true.

*ldC

C h a ri# *

out
out/th

and ycu

tric t,
wrrulu

w a

A*

F i n n eh

4401

t ,a r t ana t&Jcs I r . a i a n a p e l i e

tJai j & r t

tea h mm i n c h

©i‘ tha

state north

rtduotion i n

tha

ef

cut

cf

U ut

In d ia n a p c lls,

cap ital

cf

the

d is­
Ih m

^ropoved

bank?
Mr* H if ja h i

I hftvt net

Ths 9soret* ry « f
(A t

th is

crt t h o s e

f 1m re«.

ths Treas- ryi Take W sstsrn C^nttcky*

point «t sap was jr c ^ a o e d ),

Ths 9 i « r e t a i 7 e f the T rea su ry : T h is nap w i l l m l t our ^ u r »
pose.

If

it is f u r r l i h s d .

Mr* Blnsshs T e a ,

Cp h you fu r n is h It In t r i p l i c a t e ?

I s i f h t say that ths tctal for I n d 1 » r a

is

• * 1 , 0 0 0 , 0C0 c a p it a l sad e u r p l s i a n d # 3 5 6 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 d e p o s i t s ,
t h st is ef

ths M s tin a a l ana Stats Banks, a n d I w m l d

fo r armaments s a k s ,
more lx d e t a i l ,

say h a l f ef I t ,

or t h a t map w i l l

i f ycu ~aro to femws i t

Tbe ?«o rs ta r r c f A fr ir u lt ^ r o t
& 2 , S C C , 000 on ths H & t i m l
M * 11 n se h : T h t t is t i l .

assume
nte

it

t h a t way*

I t w euld bs t a k in g o f f abcst

Banks*
In Ir.airn a, Ju st ths I! U c n

1

Banks alerts h &?s # 4 0 ,0 0 0 , 0 0 0 c&pltr.l tna s u r p lu s .
Ths Secretary c f A * ^ 1 culturex T e s ,

I say

It

would

t&ks o f f

ab cut $ 3 , 5 0 0 * 0 0 0 .
H r.

h in so h : T s s .

The S ecretary c f ths Treaeury* Taka ^ a s t e r n Xsntucky and
▼s stern Tsr.nes^oe




, all e f

which is

ir eluded i n

tho f i s u r a s

*161

Charles A* Hintoh

w hioh ycu hart it t b n iiiid t a U r ^ i
doubtedly b »?e tore

4402

part o f those M e t l c n t u n ­

lntlaeatfi trade r e la t io n s w it h M M

e th er

p la o s .
llr. Hli fschj I r h W 'U
I r o b f M y P ttp h lO !

eay Piutuoah would **o to S t .

but I

Lo u is ond

tblnlr ths btZcr.cc of ths t o r r it c r y

roc I d vsry ir o p s r ly be in cluded in our d i s t r i c t *
*" r • i c r s 'U r y

cl* t *e Treas^ r y :

» how r.beut L o u is v i l l s T

Wo had trrlf.er.rs f r t a sosc s t r c n r poo p is
to bs fto m w o tU w it h S t .
?2 c l o * .

thrt they p r c fo r r o i

I

Lo uis crnd |& t ia t > a f 4 a s a asfrcaad

What is your ▼Ssrw e)>cut th a t, as tc trhsrs I r u i t r l l U

sho uld err® proparly bo plaoed In ths a r r « jn ^ a t B t of a &ls-»
trirtf
W r. Rlnssh* 1 N l l f i t would ac ast to ras they ; r e p s r ly b e lo n g
i n our d ls ^ .fie t ,

that I s ,

ia

ths d ls t r i <rt w i h«T*> d o se r lb s d

h o r s „ w hether C in c in n a t i were ths lo c a tio n f o r U w Rse.srws
S n k or n e t .

bsoauoe

in a s iy wnys tho b u s ln o ** o f tho C it y

I s s im il a r , ws b o *rw se oleee

to tho tobasoe w id h w p

«rcw*-

i n * MftMriB* s f tho so s t a t e s ,

*o th^t ths

o f th s lr

putrfr.i should to o o & s ld s r e d ,

ml

:*? c r n w n t o n t fo r tbe» to

*ots S t .

I

'

lia rs

\t W fs ld

L n il».

Tbs Seerotsnr of th« Tro^r ry: I nr ti *50 y**u colt South-




alM

C hurls a A .

^ a a t V ir g l n l

frcw

Hlnctoh

this t e r r it o r y .

4403

Tour r e la tio n s w it h

Southwest Ylrerlnla arc not intieiste?
Mr. Hlr.echs Very lntifFC.te9 wiu I

they w i l l heormw

■•re se wh*n the C . C. A 0 . R n ilr c a d is b l i t u p thrcwrti
that sectio n*
Ths Secretary o f the T r s n s u r y * On the ether fc**»d# you have
lxteludso northern V eet V i r g i n i a ?
Hr.

H in e o h *

Tee,

T^s Sseretary

sir*

of the Treasury* TJ.e t sstlm cny w h ic h was

subm itted i f ths CcfK*itt*s

at f k s h l n f t a i from f h e s l i & f a&d

sous eth er p c r iio a s c f th»t d i s t r i c t , was tc ths e f f e e l

that!

they j r e fe r re d tc be attached to a d i s t r i c t of w h ich P i t t s ­
burg wwa a p a r t ,
way than l s t t 9

thr t their r e la t io n s are mors intim ate thrtj

m u

cust i-ary w u r u

it would dc the le a s t vitltr.oc

r f bueine s s •

k r . Hirisohi T e a ,

that Is t r u e •

Ths S s e r e t a r y o f

the T r e a s u r y ! Ton dc n o t

cr

"Tseier

Paa*nsy 1 v < n i a

Hr* H lnachs
us,

in

tl.la

Pi ttafcmi v i t as I T ,

may

jart

ia

fttmmr tl y j t h

there

ia a w ary

bet^ear. P i t t f K r r r»n d C l n e l w m t l *

Ths Secretary c f ths Treasury^




in c lu d e

air;J l e t ?

X c 9 they haws ▼cry l i t t l e

e x ^ e f t , « T cm uroe,

lar^a s v ^ h e a m

tc t h e ir

Crn you

rir* u s any f i <cmree

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C h a r i® *

A.

H in s o h .

4404

• b o w l n r that?
W r.

I

qo

net

b e I I e r r * we h a w *

Th# S e c r e t a r y

cf

the

Treasury*

ani

M nsohi

prepare

Mr.

ee we

Hlnachz

ii

Can y c u

<sn t h a t

prepared.

In w e etl•ate

that

^elnt?

]

We c ^ n .

Th# S e c r e t a r y
p ro fits

fl«u rco

an y

cf

the

Section

TroRRurys

13,

pa*e

14,

The F e d e r a l

Reeerre

Act

aaamr e th e r

thin<*& ,

tha

re lie v in g *
•Upon

the

w ith a ^ a lr e r
.M y

?eaert*l

b ill*

©f

inh ere:w en t

d^R «ad9 n o tic e

r**erw e

of exchan**
th* t

i#«u *^

Ar'iwn f o r

d e l
or

purpe***,

are

to

ie,

or

be u e e a ,

Board

t o hawe

aoter

ef

th e

the

prooeod*

fo r

noh

r i^ t

te

m rtir
by

ef

- r h l c h haw:

pur* c w « , ' the

fo r

b*nk,

are f t * ,

in ciu e tri^ l,

or

*uch

m

~

ccrm *r~i' 1 t r a n -

and b i l l *

determ in e

btnkt9

«M fcane*
or

o c «ii>

been u e e a ,

Fe . e n l

u efin e

Bctcnre

the

d ie count,

ohar»

w ltK ln

th#

A c t.*

r#ad.

C in cin n ati

C l t a r l n f H uee

•us p l y

O oourltt*# a t

ef

of

tteue i l l ^ l b U

2 w i l l not

th#

ef actual

anxi c u lt u r a l,

the

ite

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note*,

paper

th ia

any

bank way

a rle lle

•actlcn #;
cr

ef

B ar eh.

But w*

If

p ro w l***

eh euld
that

rela tl? f

lilt*

to a d d r o e e

q^*^ SI on , ana a r k

ycur e a r lie s t

p c se ib l*,

tc

w ith

th a t w hich
to
yru

~4t*w «nl*no*,
a

br i - f

th#
to
*ay

by

c f isowcrandu*

*1*4

C h arlce A .

c u b je e t ,

glrlr f us ycur ldeac e f whet would be tfee proper

A a f l n i t l o e e f ccttseerelal paper * i t M n
let,

4406

H in ^o h

the a e e n i r f e f thie

end alee d e sc rib e tc the Crcatlt tee any paper p e c u lia r

to th ie r e r l e n f end what i t n e a n e , ejna what lt e character—
letlo e are,
Mr. Klneahs T e e ,
The Secretary c f the T r e t m r y s
u ic a t c by *v’ - «e«tion,

And a le e I f you w i l l

the f«rms ef nr tee W w

in—

b l l l e e f ex—

rhftnae w* le h yen think can be p rrp crly u ec d by the F e d e ra l
reeerwe br*nke ana their branches

the Gt«atber b a n k * ,w i t h

a view tc • U n 4 a r l t l A K f ec f a r ae p c e « l b l e ,
cf

th*tp funrtior.*

trade,
Mr. Rlnechs T e e ,
Tlic Secretary e f the Treaeury* Or. | » w

tic n 1 6 , I t
____

10 c f the A c t , Sec-

le prewlded that

r

•The F ederal B taarv e Beard a h a ll make ~iul proem 1 *a te
from tlee te tine r e e i l m t l m t
funde and chargee
thedr

frvcrrir.w the

tra n sfe r e f

therefo r s s c n r F e d e ra l reeerwe brnka ana

brM M lec, « d

» * y a t i t e de- roticn e x e r c is e

the fun —

Tal

c tle n « e f a i l e n r i n r h uee f c r evch f e d e r a l reeerwe b**nke,
cr nay d e sg ln ste a f d e r a l r s M m
functlcrJi, anu m y

b*n%

te exor-iee euch

r it e re ^»lre ce -h mieh ban*

tc e x e r o lc c

the fto&etlCM c f a cle r i n f hcuee f c r lt e M K b e r b nks. •




*166

Cfcj r i c e

C X t a r a f Hc v m
of

fun ds

as

Isiv e tn

p a rtiru la rly

alac

m

•fftetn P ti
of

tho

Rlttech s

Thot y f «

p o e*lb le *
Mr*

H in *ch:

The

Secretary

th i*

*t

m it t o i

•rra

Ui-ra

boot n a r b it o r y

of

tho

titd

Aot In

w hich ycv
tc

tc

roopoet

H rs
Tea;

or

tran o fo r
^r&r«^bes9

*u ***ao t,a»d
«*c lry

tc

♦ h o i r br*nrrhee end

* r n t us

fo r
th *ir

the

ill

to

'■ylof-ranoe
nmmbwr b t r > r . #

la tart
by

tho

1 5 t h © f Kr.reh

th/*t,

Federal

dram

by a Fe<ior

unda

tc

rttorvo

or

-xeh w ifs

lo

*n e th e r

bonk o b a l l
frco

upon any o f

1 rooorwo

th*

Incurred
rid

tc

f r e v inter*

bank,

re o a lv *

F«> o r a l
lto

roeorvo

d ep csiters,

cha ' k*

anc

an y e t l s e r F e d e r a l He o m
e ra -it

p ro h ibitin g a

exp n e e

There

ntus

mo ►or br nfc* r r

aotual




bar.Vs

d istrict

b^.nk o r member W . k ,

or

tc s&ke

th*

tho T r e a e n r y t
I

d rtfta

o ottf* true d a o

•

retenr*

a M ftor^du s

toy ftjny d o p e s ! ".or i n
rl

cK- r

th o T r e a s u r y *

cf

Act v h lo

sni

44C6

feh

Te«*

par r m

hook*

cf

F ile

•XV« ry
it

bo

^ur*c*«

Tho f l o o r * V a r y

in

rith ln

»o »ld

Hi

proper

Ftosrtl

rtbookff b o two a n b r n > *
Kr*

If

thi

th«

M o ra

t c whf t

tc

A*

of

s* id

lr, m e l l o o t s r , sr enu
i to

p a lm s*

bank

wu

or

rhoc

drawn
ember

ir*

cu rtain ed

-em ber bank f r e e

r *; a

irafts

depo eitcr

H ft h lr * * b o ra in

on d e f o « -

ret*
a ha 11 bo

o h are ln r it a

re a l ttir.^

T b s Forte r s l

fu n d -,

Reserve

&XM

C h a r i# ®

eh' 1 1 ,
W r

by r u lo ,

H ir««h

th# cht r^e t tr be o c lle c te a by the —

^u ik t f r « * it s petrcne whose ohcsks art e lt & r t d thrcu*£i

he 9 » 4 « n l
fer

fix

A.

rtterrc

tbi u n r i o s

b*n> and the ohnr^D which nay be 1 apeaea

e f e l e a r l c f cr c o lle c tio n rendere<i by th#

f»4«r 1 re te m

b a n k .* '

The t ^ h e l #

s u b je c t

ie r e l a t e d and I n t e r —r«l-*tea# nud

i f yets * 1 1 1 e c n e iie r the whole problm i ae pre ren ted by theee
twe e l- v e e e ,
a&ii

tni

^r^rtlOK*,

M r. W

th*

C e n r lt t e e ^ 1 1 1

be

^ln 4

t^

r e c e iv e

Vie a .

eeh* T e e .

T* e S e c r e t r r y
Mr*

\ibrlt wsy riewc ycu h*re|pu th a t r o b j e c t

cf the Treasuryx

f

t w i l l be f l l *

Th^rk veo

K l r .f d u
nTtm cnrr a * t .

The Sacreti^ry

H r*A R D e.

the Tre?*u ry i W ill you etate yrur r* uae,

r e e lie n e e tr*.i occupation*
Mr* B le a r te t M* t .
C iu a ,

T -.

Kdv«re<| P r t e l t e i t

f

the Bualneee Mon* 4

C li. 5 i r jM t l .

*«cr«tarr

■r. M n r t e l
hri




»sU ,

ef

t>M T r « R « * n r r *

Tc ®*y

M r. S t m t e r y i I ' t
X teuU

lik e

, rc o ««i.

U

r a l t m t * «tet!

tc f l l o t h l » > r l « f * l t h

*13T

T. f,

4408

Edvards

your S e c r e ta r y , and e booklet her* d e s c r i b i n g Cine lime tl and
glvir«v irto fa o tt o m e t m i r .? i t ,
•h o e that C lr c ln n e t i i t

end I w culd l i k e

tha l a H c ^ l C i t y ,

■ere p la y in g o a ria thwr. roay c ity In
* » a a trs b e t t l e e ,

te e a y ,

te

that we « ? x u f a e t u r «

the w e r l d ,

eor* ^ h ie key

axu ucra j a i l n .

The Secretary ef the Treaeury*
are l i q u i d ae ee te*? We heard m m
except ae tc the play in 7 c r^«**
l a t i n g te tha **istribu t i m

It

lo your view that thoee

e le d la r cl

1b frets. L c u i t v l U e

Hrve you any *iata there re­

ef ceesfcditlea thrcu

cut th ie

d i s t r i c t , to an * fr < e C ln e im sa tif
Mr* .t4irarda! S o , except aa to our d iv e r a i f le d ^a a m fa c t u r in g
oetfc bllefcaw tet
T!.e Seorotary c f the Trsaecry* How about y ^u r t e r ? a n t i l e
• ftt^ll
Ur.

hR fR tSt

Edward el We have aoee

three thcua^nd f a c t e r i e e ,

and I

w cu ld Judae ae aany m r r j atrcar.tile e a t r b lle h n e & t e *
T^t Secretary of tha T rea eu ry : Hew th e cner c l l t y d l * t r l b u t l e n
fr e e both of th©ee seu ro ei t h r o u ^ e u t
the aphere of C in c in n a t i
If

thie d i a t r i o t ,

trcde in flu e n c e wcula be c f value*

you hav 1 not auch d a t a ,

ths C cunlttee w i l l

receiv e i t

you v i l l prepare i t aa&u fcrwiMra i t te Wrehlr^tor^*
the el t ie * we have had ooapealte rap e



sh o v in g

If

Ir* eeaa o f

alt*

H* D.

4409

Sdwarde

presented t h e v i n f the ip h tr t of trade In flu e n c e ef thcee ol
In e fwLe-ew«y e t y l e ,

d in ir ls h ln £ # ef ^ c u r e e , ee yeu ®*t

fu rth e r w a y

c en ter, uiu thoe« nape -cula be e f

fr o m the

r l « e 9 aiu i f yeu 5 mi Id supply them, we shcmld like t « have
t h f lit

H r . Euv&rdst

I think we ecula*

Tne Seoretary o f the Treaeurys Hay we le e k f e r that by the
15 th e f H arsh , eay at the outside?
Hr* Edwarus* T*»«*
T>ie Secretary e f the Troi- uryx Haye ycu a n y t h in ? a le e you
earc
Hr.

tc e o b r it ?
tdvmriai I c t M r r furV-ser*

The 8eeretary o f the T rea eu ry : f t r e f e r to J e b b ln r h c u s e e ,
e f eouree* T at le a wery reed Index*
Hr.

Edward** J o b b in g r a th e r than mrmuf a*~turlng?

T..c Seoretary e f thi Treaeury* B e th , h u t I eay J e b b in ^
ae w ell ae r e t a i l h u»#e*
H r .M m r i e :
( 8 t r t rne nt

X w ieh to f i l e

a statem ent, r h ie h le ae fc lle w e a

file d )*
F o r c e fu l Facte*

fU n elu ia U




i^

the lar^e

o ity to the center c f

*

population*

* 1 «

W. B.

Edwards

Canter or the s a r k c t ,

44 1C

b e in g w it h in E4 hcuru or

7 6 9GOC,OOC people*

U n i tod I U U t # » i t h M t r o p e l i U ^ popula t i o n , M i t r U l n f to
tho U U i t

census b u lle t in o^ 5 6 3 ,3 0 4 .

More f r u i t e end varetrb loe are ehippea t r*^urh tbe
C in c in n a t i f il e v t y than to *ny eth er » r r k # t t exoej^tinf
only Bow Yo rk.
■»e a greater v a r ie t y o f f a c t o r ie s th- n *«ny e th er
c it y in tho e c w t r y .
Center of the lart’eet s o ft eoal p r e d n e in f f i e l d s
in

tho w o r ld .
Bee the lare o e t trap facto ry in the world*
l e r u f tho world in

a » ? h lr e

the e am ife ctu re etnd

m lity

of

t c c le .

Ranke f i r s t a ls o in the i&anufaoture c f a c i d s ,
caeea, fio lu m e i e a l

in stru m en ts, p r i r t i n r in k s ,

beck—

lau rary

saoh in-rry .
L e a d i n * market in

tho country fo r modius*-prlewd

ole thin m.
Tie

l r r ^ i s t center of heurdwocu lumber i n ti e w o r ld .

Loads
eeeM nery.



the w orld in

tho arnnuf a ^txirn of weed—*rorkin*

1*

*411

Klsards*

H* s t h s l a r g e s t a n l ex at

cob.* l e t

e b o t t le factory

I n t he w o rld *
Leads the w o rl d Ar. the u ^ n u f a c t u r e o f Ar i s e n and
omsui*set %1 i r o n *
Has the l a r g e s t f a s t e r ? i n the w o r l d devote d
exclusively
b e

to ti e a M r u f a c t u r e o f w a s t i n g saaahinee*
the l a r g e e t o f f l o e f u r n i t u r e f a c t o r y i n the

wo rl d/
Hae t he l a r ; e * t tan ne ry w n i s r cne r c o f I n the w c r l i .
Has the l a r g e e t l e a t h e r s u p p l y h o u s e ,

the l a r g e e t

harness fa c to ry .
Ha* t h s l a r g e s t

trunk f a c t o r y i n t h s U r . i t s i S t a t e a .

C i n c i n n a t i o o n u f a c t u r e e more p l a y i n g c a r *e than
any c i t y i n the w o rl d *
Hank* t h i r d i n the man ufacture o f e l e c t r i c a l
It

i e a r a ^ i i l y crowing a u t c a o b il e

mlc'

iner^

f a c t o r y ce nt o r ,

Ban te t h i r d i n the a a n u f a c t u r e o f • T a i l o r to the
clothing*
Gre f t e s t : i t o g ra p M sig © e n t er i n the U n i t e d S t a t e s *
F i r s t and l a r g e e t o o ^ p r e e s s d y e a s t f a c t c r y i n t h s
U n its I S t . t e i .
Has ths l r r g e e t p ian o f a c t o r y i n t h s Ui i l e T e e t *
Le**de i n the e x p o r t o f a p w c l a l p i a n o s b u i l t f o r



tropical

ir

.

.

44l£

.

© f *r scuntriss.
Banks eee uni in ths irctacrtion or soaem'a cloaks and
a s n 's caps*
I s s Isalirg shoe waruf&cturing centsr.

Thiri ia

ths M n u f Jturint of Jewelry.
Barks t M r l in ths manufacture of atrset c^rs.
in ths ^re luction cf cigar hexes*
Csntsr of the grestsst carriage *rciueing

U stric t

ir ths covrtry.
Largest

iatributing csrtsr for whiskey In ths w crlU

STA Tam rr o r F R r ^ R ic x c .
Ths *scretary sf ths Trsasury*

h ic k s .

F ill ycu stats your name,

rsaiJjnce sa4 occupation.
Ur* Hicko:

Frelerick C. Hicks, Italy -rjity of Cincinnati*

T ’S eecret ry «f ths Treasury*
Ur. 3lcks:

Stats what chair you occupy*

Ths Chair of Economics.
•

Ths Sscrstary cf ths Traaaury:

I f you s ill bs good sncugh

to give us any new light you can cn V i s subjsct, aye i ling
repettit cn of ths facts which have slrsedy been prssentsl*
as far as *ractioabls, we scull bs glal to hsar frofc you*
Ur.



H ickss

I

a c c e p t s ! th s i n v i t a t i o n o f t h s Ccajulttss to

Frederick C . R i e k a .

Af

441J

appear before you, largely because I have bad the privilege
ef working with them in selecting thle material, and I
would like to get any adHttional light that you nay have to
&lwe ae to what further arterial you deelre*

I ^ave

been

li etening to vlat you have haA to eay, and X wculd like to
know ae to the length of time that we could get up &nyV%img
of that eort*

Of course ^

work in connection with tl le

Feteral bank oattar has been the getting together of tM.e
data, and X understood frost the states ante that ycu gentle­
men nade in Chloage, that you were to read this feta. I t it
wee not too voltsalvv cue, and X have asau&ed that part of thle
argument that I had to offer would probably be offered to
you through that brief*
The Seoretary ef the Treeeury:
theee figures.

We shall of course, analyse

It ie impossible to give then very serious

conei foration when they are read and thrown at you in volume
ae we get them at theee hearlnge, but we shall, of course,
eeneider thoee things wary earefully*
Mr* Hicks:

Ir preparing this brief, you gentlemen have asked

some questions here as to the industries and magnitude of the
busineee at Cincinnati it *e2f«

In sorkin?; up our brief, we

have laid special etreee on the question ef the eervice which
 C i n c i n n a t i


oculd renter to the surrounding

If

F relerick C . H ic k s .

4414#

territory rather than u^on tha extant of ita own intuetry*
For instanoe, Z think I hare only a ccuple of pagee
own brief aa to the extent of Cincinnati1* own ln1ustry#
and ^LLite a goo! de*l aa to the fao ilitiea for coueaunicatis*
between Cincinnati end the surrounding country, trane^ortati on
and the ooesaml cation and the varicue evidoncea that go to
ehow that Cincinnati wculd be a nom al center of a 11 strict,
i f auoh a lietriot aa thia were established*

I

I think perhaps I ought to aay with reference to the

boundary ef this

lietriot, aa it ie out 1ire 1 on the c j^ f

j that the data we have gathered here haa been practically
ef necessity, or at leaat ccuch of i t , gather el on the baaie
' of 8tate linee, inn—aish aa it was not possible to get
much of it on the basis of County lin e s, an I so theee ttrpe
have been drawn to include all af theee counties, not
signifying that the Cosaittee believed the tlstrict to be
I Just the bounlariee of theee atatee, but rather aa showing

the area of the etatistioe and figure® thrt ?/e have *,i/en.
X think you gentlsaen have raked with reference to
expressions of choice.

i when

We started to eolleet th&t iata

we receive* fron your organisation in Washington a

r e v e s t to etate first, sec on! and third ehoioee, and *re




4415

T r **' erlok C* H l c k e .

have not f i M i i that eny further*

is far aa « t went, It

wee vary favorable to Cincinnati, but still it was inco&^lete,
ani ao a i r ou£h wo prepared what are had, aa it was lncct^lete*
•t

lit not think it was a fair «ho«iR| of tho statu* of

Cincinnati ao compare! wi th tHo other plaoee in thia iiotriet.
Tho Socrotary of tho Troaoury:
111 procool, tho

To tho extant to whlah you

Co&edttoo will receive the inquiry and tho j

ro^lioo aa aa exhibit to your teatiaevgr*
Ur. Hicks:

I will M i a a Mfcoraniyua of it , ani see th&t

you * • * it ,

Vow ycu have aake* fcr the

intrlbutloe of

oooBoditlee.

I f 1 uvtleretnnd i t , ycu wish tc know the

epeoifio oeirketa in which specific cocs&iolitiee &ot le that
the lleaT

Ve oan give ycu —

I have, for instance in the

b r ie f, a statement of the total saova&ent of coa**«oll tlee
from Cincinnati ae a distributing center*
The 8*or*t’U"y of Agricultures

IXo,

that is net what ere

had in &lnd when we asked the ^ue^ticn.

Take this thing*
•«

for instance*

One of the great hardware hcuaes in one of

the cltlee we v iiite d , gave us its relume ef buelneee over
the entire country with the percentage in raricue statee,
ah owin* ite natural trale area*

That wae lone fcr Half a

of the lar ;eet badlnes* heuee* in that city.



In O ioago

if

Tr? **rtek C. HioXa.

they 0 1 !e as up a 001*. col to u p y ae well aa an in 11vi dual
aa^ on tha aafl&a baale.

Thoee k ()i ehow pretty ol early

what tha oity9* tr&le area le , especially I f you giro it
in percentage for vnricue eta tea*
U r . Hiokai

&&y I aek ahether a tap of that eort la bom *

thine a-long the lin e ycu deeire ( i n H e ting).

That ahcwa

the coal trade.
The Seoretary of A&rloulture:
The Secretary of the Treaeury:

Tee*
Tee, eacept I f you wculd

give the peroontaiM in the different etatee, it would he
better*
Mr* Hi oka:

Tea, that we wcu** ei T# i n the brief.

But I

h a n prepared eocae dnta of that kind, and you would like rathe4
complete d*»ta on the subject of the oove&ent of theee
tie*?
The Secretary of the Treasury:
Hr* Sdwarde:

The principal

U tie e ,

How long a ti*>.e will we bf?eT

The Secretary of the Treaeury:

Until the 15th of March,

we coul i receive it up to that date*
The Seoretary of Agriculture:

We Would like to have it

earlier* i f . oeelble*
T h e S e c r e t a r y o f the T r e a e u r y :
be the feaxjUeaa*



If

5* 3*1 b l e ,

bu t that w ould

if

Mr. Hi oka:

4417

F r e d e r io k C . H lc k a

You arcull suggest that

file nhat ire hnv#

aow, an 1 Tile t vat ma #Ui>pl#MRtal*
Th# Secretary of Agriculture:

Wall, I ic not think ycu

will find it ae d iffic u lt, because each of ycur big he usee
*h# hare t •

lata will h&T# it now*

TH# Secretary of th# Treasury;

Each of the big ®anufactuf^

inf and jobbing hcuae# can *u, , iy that Tory quickly.
Hr. !Iick*>:

Tou hare asked fcr thia arterial in t r i p l e

#aM
Th# Secretary of the Treaaury:
triplicate.
Mr. Hicks:

Tea.

W# prefer it in
/

How far wculd ycu dealre ua to go?

For ix>-

st&a##, we haw# prepared son# rather lar e sapt like that
one back of you —
Th# Secretary of th# Treasury:

Tou need not have that nap

in triplicate or th# large nap#, but th# atnall exhibits which
aacoH^any your j*#K2cranduBi or brief, we lealr#to have thoa#
in trlpli oata.
Ur. Hick*:

Cart.a.en , u n l t M you h»T« »<a&sthlng you wi«h

to aek » # s p e c i f i c a l l y , I think, the time of Cincinnati can
better b# taken by theee other g#ntlee«#n.
T h e S # o r *t a r y o f the T rea a u ry *



T h at l e a l l ,

Hoe j anycn#

•1 s t

!a»lri to be htsTcl fros Cincinnati?

H r. Hows:

Ws wetild lik e to b&Ts theee gentlemen who came

up from 1 ‘ishTlll*,

iTsr an e ^ o r t u r lt y to stats V*eir views.

Ths Secretary of ths Treaaury:

Yes*

l i s t , and ws sxpsot to h#?ir front then:.

Haahvllle Is or the
We w i l l

take then

next.

S T .W E U m f 0*

S . KcHEBRT.

Ths Beerst»~ry of the Tr^ jury:

Ur. kcHenry, w ill ycu

'vlw* ■ (fo£* 'L.

*t *te your ndfcie, rv: lienee ani occupation.
Mr, McHenry:
Clearing Hcuie;

J . 8 . McHenry:, representing the K i t h r l U s
le a Tics Pres 1 lent of ths Fourth and

First Vationml Ban,, of Sk shrill e.
X w i l l preface what I heto to say by saying that
when ths plan of ths nsw Currency B ill was first conaiisrel*
ths banks aad ooacasrclal organisations of cur City fe lt that
Bashrille wculd be an ideal location for one of the Regional
Ranks.
The trale territory tributary to Wasfcwllle

ccl

^ rises

on the one tan ! a ccnai lerable ancunt of ootton territory,
ani also a very large section of tobacco territory.

These

two *ro!uots ooubiret afford the basis for an 1 leal rotation a



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^

If

J,

iiv-liaticn.

44 X 9

S . I h H — f|

Active plane *«re at cnoe laaule to obtain

a hearing before ytur Co*xu„ttee, ani

anon

a hearing was

accor ei to ua In Cincinnati to tajr.
In vie* of tha ic&ny c-jjvlidate* appearing

tha

vari ua ol tlee af tha South, we finally bec'uoe oonrlnced
that tha eltuatiun Light become vary c or fualns to the C osjf*
■tlttee, an I after cnrefu- conai deration *nd consultation,
our Clearing Houae Vu*lng tha le&d, we cotae to tha oonalualcn
that tha territory to be es&raesd In tha U atrict to which
SaahvlXle la to ba att^chad le cf paramount l^ c r t a n o a ; that
while Iaa> villa la a logloeX location for a Regional Bank, em­
bracing a territory probably extensive efecugh tc e&tablleh a
Beglcnal Bank of the

inlcaiti. c«j1 tal, yet, involving aa tha

■attar 111 the actual lnveetcievtt of the aoney of rur bnnka
Ir. jubacriptlcvu? to the capital atock cf tho RegicraX
that we eho*£d waive tha *ur*etlcm of local pri !et end uae our
bo^t effort* toa^alat In the eatabliehjLent of a U atrict of
^ l c h *% 'ii-Li.' be a part $hat wcull be etrcng enough to oo*»»
■and ro.rtct, aa * ^ a r a ! to tha other Begion&l Br-nk* cf the
country, anl whlc^ «3 ould oo^rir-i a weX imbalanced territory*
enabling the bank to ec^Xcy its fvnda iurin* the entire year*
ami alee to be able to take care of the neei* of the




|

J.

. et h e r s

•1

1 cut

f

ii

8 . McHenry

&j»ie ta n o e

lia a ,

in

fr^*.

44 2 0

ot

sir H s g i o n e l

c o n n e c tio n w it h

B^rm s.

cur b e l ie f

that

ths

natural trend of the traie in our territory Is towsxls
the Vorth and £ast, lei us ta the conclusion that the
establiefcment of a Bank in Cincinnati along the linee pro­
posed by those In charge of the acfSLont in that City should
have cur hearty enlorsement,

and

tc this

end

cur Clearing

H .use, anl other cootercial organisations, voted unanimously
erJorslng the location of the Bank in Cincinnati,
ing that their re,re£entatlvee urge you to that
The 8ecretary of the Treasury:
thle U e n t lc a l
Hr. UoHenrys

direct­

ecislcn.

Ars ycu also speaking to

lietriett
I should like tc Bake a suggestion, that in

The Secretary of the Treaeury:
U r . JioKsnrys

anl

Vhat wculd you a i l to Itt

I would Alabej&s and Georgia, at least the

greater part of those two states.

I f a bank

were

established

in He* Orleans, probably half crtwo V i r i s of the Stats.
The SecreVury of the Treasury:
The Secretary of Agriculture:




Tou »ay proceed*
Do ycu knew to 4Hat extent

J.

8.

McHenry

4421

th*t sou Id r e fle c t the vie we of the interest* ycu represent?
Mr. MoFenrys

It would reflect the unanimous lentlefct of

coir Clearing hcuee.
The Secretary of Agriculture:

That it wculd be aeeiraole

to add thie other territory?
Hr. McHenry:

Tee.

northern Alabama le exoluelvely tribu­

tary to Raehvllle.
tc lid not believe that eentiaent and eeoticaal pride
should have firet oonnideration in the letem ining of a queetlon
eith which our future proj>erlty la eo intlaately con­
nected.

Especially have ae taken the view that a region com­

peted entirely of eotton proiuclng etatee, or in which
euch eta tee preponderated aould fail to meet the requirement*
to be laroaed upon the new eye tea.

The handling of the

laienee cotton orope hae been, and will continue to be one of UM
greatest buriena placed on the b&nxa of thie country*
The South1* needs, in order to be properly U u n
care of, in our opinion, rwquiree that the Southern States
should fee divided into at leaet four dletrlote, each district
having attached to it eose of the etronger and capitalistic
sections, dividing the territory of the Regional Banks
longitudinally, rathsr than grouped around a particular

center.


• e
J .8 .M u H e n r y

In ordor to pr***nt an idea of th* pc Ation

4429

of Haeh-

ville, commercially and financially, I would stat* that th.*
banking capital of Waer.wille at th* pr***nt tine aaounte to
# 6 ,2 5 9 ,0 0 0 ; with gro** d*posit* of 1 2 5 ,9 8 0 ,0 0 0 .0 0
At th* tia* of tho last *tat*&*nt th*r* *a* carri*d on
depoeit in llaehvllle banke 1 5 ,6 7 7 ,0 0 0 .0 0 of country bank
deposit*, rapreeonting acccunt* from 618 bank*, located in
G*orgia
T *n n *****, Kentucky, Alabaaa,/H l**l**lppl and
Florida*
During th* nonth* of Octobor, Jfoveaeber and Deceaber,
1913, th*r* wa* reoeived from the**, and oth*r bank*, out-oftown it * a * , not including tho** drawn on r**e r?* o iti**
aaountin^ to $ 1 4 1 ,0 1 4 ,4 2 8 .0 0 .
By a comparison, wa claia that wa*hvill* i* tha
of country
largest depoeitory/bankein th* South, exclusive
of reeorve cities*
Th* comparison of figuree of National Bank* alon*,
in th*ir etateaente of January 13, 1914, shosing t l , 1 3 0 ,0 0 0 .0 0
great*r bank deposit* than inth* national Bank* of Atlanta,
Georgia*

Th* figure* iniloated for waahvill* showing only

actual country bank balances, collection account* representing



ee

J . S . McHenry

The 8 c o r t U r y of tho T r t w u r y :

4433

Vhat do ycu pay cn

b U n o t t there?
Mr. McHenry:

U

pay three per cent on * U t

«e term

"Reciprocal Accounts* that carry collection features vlth
Ute»
The Secretary of the Treaeury:
Mr. McHenry:

Free collection?

Free reciprocal collection.

our iteme and ee oolleot thelre free*
reeerve oity* ,and we have
a great

fig u re d ,

They collect

Maehville le a non*

that three per oent ie not

4 **1 higher than the two per oent paid by reeerve

o i t i e e , owing to the reeerve requirement.
The Secretary of the Treaeury:
Mr. McHenry:

tell,

You way prooeel, Mr. McHenry.

1 have etated that ae are here more in

the oapaoity of sitneeeee than for any clalne for H aeh v ille.
The Secretary of the Treaeury:

You are acre concerned in

the o net ruction of the dletrlct it e e lf than in the location
of the regional bank?
Mr. MeHenry:

Exactly.

The Seoretary of the *reaeury:

Hoe aany banka are repreeent-

ed in your Clearing Hcuee?
Mr. McHenry:

Me have n in e .

The

o f the T r e a e u r y :

Secretary




How s a n y n a t i o n a l

banks?

••

J.

Mr. Kcftsnry:

S.

McHenry

4424

la have fivs National banka.

Ths Sscrstary of the Treaaury:
V r . McHenry:

And four Stats.

The ^ o n t a r y

of tha Treasury:

Ana Four State?

And they art unanimous

in th* opinion ycu havt expreeeed?
Mr. McHenry:

They a r e .

The Secretary of the treaeury: . Where do they keep th e ir
reesrvss not p rin cip ally , shat part of them, for instance, are
kept in Cincinnati?
Mr. McKnnry:

W e ll, I should say that 2b per oent.

Ths Ssorstary of ths Treasury:
Mr. McHsnry:

In Cincinnati?

Our ressrvse ars scattsrsd in K ash v ills.

1 think the pressnt systsa of reserve* is so a r t i f i c i a l and
has so intiaats a connection eith ths collection feature, *»*
kssp our ress rvse where «e can collect itsms.

You vs i l l

f i n i that to bs ths cass with practically svery Maticnal
bank in the o cun try, except, of ocurss, in ths central
ressrvs c it ie s .

Ths collection f a c i l it ie s determine ths

balan ces.
Ths Secretary of the Trsasury:

T<Ai spoks of the number

of districts in shich you thought ths cotton statss ought
tc bs divided.



What was your idea about t h a t, shat number ds

ee

J.

B.

MoHsnry

4435

you think the cotton etatea ought to ba divided into?
Mr, McHenry:

Eliminating Nam Orleane aa a pcaaible locatio n,

1 iould aay four.
Tha Pa oratory of tha Traaaury:
H r. McHenry:

Where «oul4 you put U a a T

I would put tha Atlantic Coaat 8tatee

attached to a bank at either Richmond, Baltimora or Waehin*ton.

I would put Alabama, Georgia ani i f naoaaaary Mleeleelp-

pi attached to the Cincinnati bank.
The Seoretary of A griculture:

What would you do with

LouieianaT
Mr. McHenry:

1 would like to put that with S t . Lo uie,

i f they were not given a bank at Wow Orlaane.
The Secretary of the Treaeury:

Ani Texae you would put

reT
Mr. McHenry:

Either with a bank in Texae or with S t .

Louie or Kaneaa C it y .
The Secretary of Agriculture:

There have been a number

of euggeetione that eubetantially thle dletriot which you
ana euggeatlng be la id out.
Mr. McHenry:

Wfeat would you da with MecphleT

V e i l , Memphie naturally would be eerved be e t,

2 think, from S t . Louie.
The

Secretary




of

the <»reaaury:

She

m aid h e r e e o o n a

ch o ic e

ss

J.

P.

4426

McHsnry

*as It* Crfceana*
Mr. McHenry:

W ell, it occurs tc. ste that she would os going —

ionld bs gstting lntc troubls*

1 think this lis t riot oould

carry Msaphis without any ^ u is t lo s .

6t« Lo uis, i f it has

Tsxas an i Arkansas attaohsd, has got a conslderabls territory
to oarry, and a territory that has i S M S S t needa.
Ths Bsorstary of Agriculture:
stantially this

Louisvllls suggsstsd sub­

ils t r lc t , ani Chattanooga a ls o .

Ko* why do

you euggsst Cincinnati as ths City for this lis t r ic t rathsr
than

so m

of ths othsrs?

Mr. MoHanry:

Bsoauss of ita grsatsr fin a n c ia l iaportanos.

and ths grsatsr support it can receive fro * ths d is t r ic t .
Ms wculdjust ae soon bs ssrvsd by any city ccnvsnlSntly looatsd
in that d is t r ic t , i f it was ae a c c s ss ib ls .

Ths re is no ssnti-

asnt about it *
Ths Ssorstary of ths Trsasury:

Vhat would bs your sscoad

cholos, supposing Cincinnati wsrs not chossnT
Mr. McHsnry:

For this particular dlstrlotT

fte Secretary of ths «rsasury:
Mr. Mo^snry:

My sscond cholcs would bs Haahyills*

Ths Sscrwtary of ths Trsasury:
rsp ly*



Yss*

Ho ws s i l l

a s k now

f o r ths

1 rathsr sxpsctsd that
t h ir d cho lo s*

J.StMoHenry:

Mr. McHenry:

4417

W ell, ay thiri choice would be L o u ie v ille .

Th# Secretary of Agriculture:

What *oul *1 you think of

Atlanta?
Mr# uoHenry:

V e il , I nould rather net expreee ay w elf•

1

Teel that our trade relatione are of euoh l it t l e importance
t;.at we wculi not feel at hoee at e l l .
The fleoretary of the Treaeury:

Hoe ah out Chattanooga?
i

Mr. McHenry:

W ell, we eculi nave no objection to Chatta­

nooga i f the ooet of the dietrio t wouli he s a t ie fie a .

It does

not ooour to mm that it would be nearly eo convenient a#
C in c in n a ti.
The Beoretary of the Treaeury:

Who repreeente Knoxville?

Mr. IfoHenry, did you bring »oee reeolutione froa your
Clearing Fouee?

We wculd like tc have them f i l e d i f you

have.
Mr, McHenry:

We have our Clearing Houee Manager here who

fcae the reeelution.
The Beoretary of the Treaeury:
you pleaee.
Mr. MoHi nry:
The

1 w ill f il e i t .

re so lu tio n le ae




fo a io w e :

Juet let it be f i l e d , i f

••

J.S.McH«nry
(F u r t h e r

lU U x tn t

ot V .

8

.

4439
Romm)

Believing that a well balance! and logical territory
le ef sore importance than the Incidental location of a
Regional Reeerve Bank, the Kaehvllle Clearing Houee Ae»eola­
tion* a ft e r a careful consideration of the beet lntereet of
thle territory, do hereby extend their unq ualified enioreeaei
of C in cin nati, Ohio, aa being the logical location of
the Regional Reeerve Bank to eerve waehville and lte trib u ­
tary territory, and authorise the epeclal Cozr?ittee of thle
Aeeoelatlcn to urge the eelectlon of Cincinnati at the
bearing granted by the organisation Co*rcittee February loth*

Further State of V , 8 . ROUT.
The Secretary of the ^reasury:

Doee anybody repreeent Knox­

v ille ?
Hr. R o v e :

le have a number of reeolutione that 1 mill

Just refer to and f il e *
For inetance, on the 9th of January, Columbus, Ohio
recoBKenied Cincinnati to thle extent#
•Colunbus, 0 . , January 9 t h , 1914*
[ *To the (Organisation Committee of Federal Reeerve Banks:
•Oentleaen:The bankers




*f Cincinnati are asking an earneet e ffo r t

so

•4 2 9

® *F tFvOH0

to hAvt * Federal H«t«rv« Bank looatsd in th s ir o ity .

In to

fa r as our oo*asroial, agricultural and induetrial interests
art oonoem ed, luoh ttlio tio n s i l l bo vary convenient.

Cin­

cinnati eervss a very large portion of the population ia the
liiU c

Veet through the centering there of tr*nepcrt*tlon

lin e s.
We believe that you t i l l find it advisable to locate
a Federal Reeerve Bank asM w hsrs In Ofclo.

I f you sss

f i t to is si gnats C in c in n a ti, »e ehall feel that the business
intsrests of this asction havs bssn very wsll servsd.
ftsspsctfully” .
That is signs* by nins or ten of the 13 or 14
banks thsrs.
Ths Secretary of the ?reaeury:

Let wtm ask ycu, ehat sort

of s o lic ita tio n has svoksd that reply?
Mr. Roes:

I think

m s

or teo officers of one of ths

banks asnt up thsrs and sae theee psopls and had a talk elth
them.

It is f a i r to stats nos that Cclusbue ie an applicant

for a Reeerve Bank.
The Secretary of the rreaeury:

Yss* Columbus is to bs

hoard tom orrow .
*r.

Roes:




Yss,

but

I

s im p ly

o ffsr

that fo r

shat i t

4s

ss

4430

eorth.
Ths R io r e U r y of the Treaeury:

Bo far as Kashvllls le con­

cerned, shat representation® sere sale by Cincinnati to Baeh*
v ille ae an laluoesent T
Mr. Ro

m

:

S c far ae 1 knee, abeolutely none.

The Saeh*

v ille people caae to their oen conclusions —
The Secretary of the Treaeury:
th a t,

1 ae&nt to ae i Mr. McHenry,

las that a voluntary cxpreealcn of opinion on ths p*rt

of la e h v llle , or eae it e o lic it e i in any say?
H r. McHenry:

1 e l l 1 state the situation exactly,

le

authorised our Clearing House to oostunlaate elth those in
charge of ths aovsaent in C in cin nati, asking the* to oosis to
W asb v ills.
C in c in n a ti.

Thsrs eas no s o l i d t a t l o n on ths part of
It was voluntary on our part,

Thsy case

thsrs ani preeented thslr d ie t r io t, and our Clearing Houss
thsn sais this announossent.
Mr. Roes:
Hcues

Hers is a rssolutlon of ths Knoxville Clearing

that eas paessd early in January.

Ths 8scretary of ths Trsasury:

las that in rseponss tc

C in c in n a t i's solicitation ?
Mr. Roes:

T ss, sea* of the bankers esnt doen thsrs ani

sat those psopls.



• •

W .P .R o * s

The Fscre tary of the Treaaury:

4431

Can ycu give us any ile a

of the representations* sale to Knoxville to inUuce that
reeoluticn?
Mr* Rowe:

1 *111 have to aak Mr. Hlneoh to give ycu those•

Fere ie the resolution, ani the re suite •
r'Knoxville,

Tennessee,

January 1 4 , 1 9 1 4 .

"Cincinnati Clearing Hcuse Association,
C in cin nati, Cfclo.
Q # a t l> s i»:«
At a call meeting of the Knoxville Clearing
Bouse Association held tolay the following resolution
was adopted:That this Association endorse the City of Cincinnati
aa a place for the establishment of a Regional Reserve Bang
and the requeet be mad* to the Reeerve Beard to have
K no xv ille, Tennessee placed in the D istrict to be served by
C in c in n a ti, believing that the interest of thia section
van best be ssrved by having the Regional Bank in C in c in n a ti.w
O h io . "
Mr. Hlnech:

/

Jr

The reeoluticn was largely tho result of

a telegram eent out by the banka of C in c in n a ti, the same
kind of a telegram



that was sent to a ll this territo ry , and)

••

*.

R o *e

4432

pursuant thereto, the Knoxville Clearing House Association
had a meeting, and at that meeting thay paseedthis
resolution.

Thsrs sas no one dosn thsrs at the time, and out-

eide of thia tsIsgras, I«io net kne* of any repreeentaticne
that ssra M i a ,
Tha Seoretary of tha Treasury:

You t il l f il s a copy of tha

telegram along sith tha HeaolutionT
lfr. Hineoh:

Yea*

Tha Seoretary o f the Treaeury:

You may proceed,

Ur.

Rosa,

Are you gentlemen both asmre of the individual preaeura which
vae brought to bear upon banks and bank ere there, by indivi**—
c ertainly , but thsrs has never been a meeting o f the Clearing
Houss since that resolution, and it has nsvsr bsen rescinds**
Here is

cue from the Clearing House banks of Dayton

O hio.
e

The Secretary of the Trsasury:

8upposs you file

it.

It need not Da rea l.
Mr. Rose:

That la si thin 00 milae of u e .

The Seoretary sf the treaeury:

Naturally t h e ir view sould

be th at, eo it la not nscsesary to read i t .
U r.

Rose:

Here are acme resolutions so fa r as 1 knos, that

art unsolioitsd from Group 3 of the *e st V ir g in ia Bankers'



ss

4433

? .8 .H o * s

Associatltn,
that

alec

at

* i th

t r ia l r t a c t i r .£

at

w ill

file

What territory icet that

in West Virginia?

Hr. Home:
3.

le

p leasure*

The Secretary of the Treasury:
r s present

H u n tin g to n ,

1 a m a fraid I cannot answer that.

It le group

Preeuicably that le the Huntington territory .
Here le a resolution passed by the Chamber of Com­

as res at Huntington, Wsst V ir g in ia ,

recommending C in c in n a ti.

Hers Is ths tslsgraa which Ur. Hinsoh Just hands ms
from Williamson, Wsst V ir g in ia .
"Is havs no repressntatlvs , banks in this section
uaanlmeuely In fmvor of Cincinnati as location for regional
bnmks, as no othsr point sGuld bs satisfactory cr as
smslly reached from Worth ani Wsst ssctlons.
Watlcnal £ank of Coens roe ,

First

Watlcnal Bank, Williamson, Wsst V i r g i n i a ."
Ws havs a ls t t s r from the First Watlcnal Bank of
Tsrrs Hauts.

1 think ss havs dsalt *lth thsm fc r mors than

fift y ysars:

"Wsxt to Chicago, Cincinnati mould bs ths cheims

of this bank for the location of a Regional Rsservs Bank for
ths distric t o r sons
T hs



ffscreVary o f

in shlch Tsrrs Hauts is s it u a t s d ."

the t r e a s u r y :

Just

g iv e

th s nam ss

of

ths

••

I.

Cities

7 f^

8.

4434

Rome

no * l c r g # imd *c * 1 1 1

t e l l you vtoioh cnee

to

read.
X~ . K c . f :

V im o i*,

T~s 3 r c r s t * r y
ir.

li*s

•

In

o f tip

Ts* , it

im is..

Th&t

?r»<*&ur/:

le

a

1#

rf‘ t»h*r ft l o n g

lsttsr.

ja It f r t a a b*nk?

?cc t 2 s t t ? r ,

and

3tats*

h is

slsh ss

alssriy.
r**» $*e r t .t tl7
Yc-u i « $ t
lettsn
It

Is
if j .

th*

> iii

• C t

Treif^nr:

rsx^rt^rj t
as

i:> t.a*

e r# id tr»J

in

fcJtrtily

* c ; ill t l i l l *

tc

fcw*c;

lUrrt

in

fro*,

siijrl

1

O b i t t f t L C :^ !

Tov ray f i l s

in *

its

tern p e l l ,

t ; r m e t i e r . « 1 th

r*b&

tlitv

tbs

v h sir / * i t

Tn«f Sscrstary of t r*« Treasury:

ir

first

olciofc

It.

IfeU

and

^nd

its

ro ll,

f W

tbs aoa-ent.

T aticrm l

k .u

tbsss

-e

**ank

of

C in c in n a ti.

Tss, i*e hi:vs thst fro*

Hr. Pr^stcs hIscslf fror Jhattancaga.
hr. Mo««:
Iss of

tbM #

«< s ill flic thsso, but »•« sou Id Ilk* to bass a
fH it liw m on this lis t pnaaent their vlsss.

l*x«t 3 s u n t t */*y a 1 tt<, I f w u t u r y :
I

« 'O u * d

to

lb #

Ilk ?

tc & 4 k

ycu w L iu L

i i i f f r u f bank*

Ki*v Rw*s:

In

tbs

1

?b*r*

l*

an*

a a it t s d b*»fo rs,

C in c in n a ti

other q u s stic n
ani

C le arin g

that

Is

Houss •

Tfcers ar* 13 all (.old, of ^fcioh si iht are

istlonal tiMl flvs a m Stats Bsnks.




( T*'i* 4StV*rs ~ i-1 rssoltttlcjui ssrs Meortlngljr fllsd ) .

as

••

W.6.R©*#

4435

f l .D .C a r r .

Th# Ssoretary of th# Trsasury:
n#xt.

*e will fcsur fros Tolodo

Who rep re sent® TclsdcT

FTATFlTCirT OF 8 .

D.

Ths Psorstary of ths Treasury:

CAHR.

Ycu nay stats ycur rua.se #

rssldsnos an4 occupation.
Hr. Oarr:
of

P. D. Carr, Prssi lent National Bank of Cour#ros,

,Tolsdc.
Ths 8# or# tary of tbs Trsasury:
Mr. Carr:

Whst lo ycu rsprsssntT

Ths Clsarin^ hcus# --no, I will not say that,

th# National Bank of CosuL#rc#.
Th# a#or#tary of th# Trsasury:

You do not rspr###nt tns

Clearing Ifcuss?
Mr. Carr:

Not particularly, no.

Ths £#on»tary of th# Trsasury:

Ars you an offioor of th#

Clearing Hcuas?
Mr. Carr:

y##.

Th# ftsorstary of ths Trsasury:
Mr. Carr:

What position?

¥ios Prssilant*

Th# Ssorstary of th# Tr#a#ury:

Will ycu kindly givs us your

idsa# on this suhjsot* Mr. Carr.
M r.



Oarr:

W all,

ti.e

fw ti

are

the

banka,

.

^
m a jo rity

ef

I

_
Loei

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4434

had e lg a lfie d Claeeluni aa thair fir s t ohoioe ani Cincinnati
ae n ex t.
The 8a ore W r y c f U t

Traaaury:

H c « many banka ara

in

tha

Cl* a r in g HcuaeT
Hr. Carr:

15.

The Sacratary of tha Traaaury:

How nany 3tate ani bon aany

Satlo n alT

Carr:

4 Watlcnal and 9 fttata.

Tiia Aecra tary of the Traaaury:

And a aajorlty axpraaa

a preference far Cleveland?
H r. Carr:

Wo# a i r , I do not think a a a jo r lt y , But 1

think jmet tha national banka, and parhapa ona of tha State
banka, tha Ohio favln|» B »n i.
Tha 8ecret*ry of tha Traaaury:

What la tha prafaranca of

your can bank?
Mr. Ourr:

W all, In acaa aaye Cleveland la a lit t le naarar

to u a , but Cincinnati 1 have favored aone, becauee of tha
fact that it haa a eub—treaeury h are, and it aeened to ae
it eould he a practical advantage tc have the Heeerve Bank here
The Secretary cf the Traaaury:

Which city would you

say touli beet eerve Tcledo'e trade and ec&reroial lntaraata?




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44 37

8 . D .C a r r

Mr. CarrL
vcIu m

I »hc.ul 1

m j

Cleveland.

Is havs a larger

of businese them than with Cincinnati.

The Seoretary of the Treasury:

Have you an ilea nhat the

general sentiaent of your community ie on that evbjeot?
1 toan of the bankers and businees sen?
Mr. Carr:

X think they rather favor Cleveland beoauee its

eo such nearer, and we have eo such larger businsee.
The Ssoretary of the Treasury:

jf

so bs

oity outsids of

Ohio should be choeen, what would be your eeoond choice?
Mr. Carr:

Chisago.

The Secretary of the Treasury:

How are your trade relations

eith Chisago as against Cleveland and Cincinnati, larger or
sB sllsr?

Mr. Carr:

t s l l , ee have aore businese with Clevelani

ant next Chicago.
The Seoretary of the Treasury:

That is a l l ,

thank you.

Is thsrs a rsprsssntativs of Zaneevills hsre?

°TATFWEWT OF H. A. SHARP.
The Ssoretary of the Treasury:

State your naae, reeidsnos

and occupation.
M r. Sharp:



H . A . Sharp,

C a e h is r o f O ld C i t i s s n s

n a tio n a l

••

K. A. Sharp

Bank of Zanesville.
The Seorotary of the treasury:

Do you represent the

Olearing House?
Mr. Sharp:

1 do not.

The ftecnstary o f the Treasury:
thie questlfcnT
lfrv Sharp:

What le your viee about
‘te

I lo not wish to take your tie s, hut ae a
v

representative of the largest bank in Worth Pastem Ohio
an ! all the banks in Xanssvills, X heartily recoseend the
appointment of Cincinnati ae one of the locations for a
Regional Bank,
In the matter which was touched upon by Mr. Hose,
in regard to thie flood, Zanesville was visited by the flood,
and cur county euffsred a loss perhaps of sight or nine
million dollars,

le sere in ths stldet of i t .

All the

banke in taneevllle sere cloeed for sevsn days, ani aany of
the houses sent dosn ths river, and the mortgages, perhaps
went slth them.

We did not kno* shat soul t bs out condition

shsn «e opened up, but se sers in oceifKunlcaticn slth Cin­
cinnati all ths time, and it saa due to the First Rational
Bank of Cincinnati that ee received our first relief by funde
ehlpped fro* Cincinnati shlch came very promptly, ani instsad



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H. A .

Sharp

4439

of t r e b l e after the seven days of d o s in g our bank, our
lepoelts Increased continually thereafter.

But 1 s ill

aay in preparation for that opening, »e ware in touch
eith Cincinnati, ►hioh furnished ue the aid , which we greatly
appreciate.
The Secretary of the Treaeury:

Where do you keep your re-

eenreeT
Mr. Sharp:

We have our reeervee in Cincinnati, Cleveland

and Chicago.
The Secretary of the treasury:

What percentage in

Cincinnati?
Mr. Sharp:

I should judge about forty per cent*

The Seoretary of the Treasury:

Arm you speaking for th#

banks of Zaneevllle, or your oan bank alone?
Mr. S*h*rp:

I aa #peaKing for mj own bank, and other banks

in Zanssvllls.
The Seoretary of the Treaeury:

Have you any authority

to epea* for thssT
Mr. Sharp:

I havs.

Ths S se re t a ry

of the * r e a e u r y :

o f the banke?
M r. S h a r p :



Wo,

I have n o t .

Eave

ycu any r e s o l u t io n

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H .A .S h a r p

4440

/
The

Secretary

M r.

Sharp:

The

Secretary

s en tim en t

a*

cf

Just
of

b e in g

the
by

Treasury:
*o rd

the
a

to

be

of

it.

I

as

p o sitiv e

The

Secretary

of

the

Hr.
second
The

of

word

Yo\* t h i n k

w eig h t

S h a pp:

by

of aouth?

of ao uth.

Treasury:

Ur.

ch o ic e

Just

attached

Treasury:

W hat

you
to

*ou ld

reflect

th e ir

C in c in n a ti?

be

ths

sscond

Z a n e sv ille ?

Sharp:

I

w o u ld

th in k

C levelan d

*o u ld

bs

th eir

ch o ic e ?
Secretary

of

A g ric u ltu rs:

How

w ou ld

they

look

upon

C olum bus?
M r.

Sharp:

C olum bus

has

nevsr

been

m en tio n ed

in

Or

P ittsb u rg h ?

our

d isc u ssio n s.
The

Secretary

M r.

Sharp:

The

Seer

of

Wot

tary

Treasury:

the
sin e s

of

ths

1907.
Treasury:

S 'A T F M F W T
The

Secretary

re s i l e n c e

and

the

L.

T rea sitry :

is

all,

thank,

you.

BUSH W E L L .
You

m ay

state

your nam e,

o c c u p atio n .

M r.

B u sh n e IX :

The

Secretary




of

OF JOHH

That

John

cf

the

L.

B u sh n sli,

treasury:

Sp rin g field ,

W h at do you

O h io .

represent?

•°

J.

Mr. Bushnsll:

L.

Bushnsll

4441

I am President of tha First National Bank,

jut 1 have not any written authority as to the other banks.
It is only hsarsay, and I do not know whsther you want to
consldsr it or not.
Ths Sscrstary of ths Trsasury:

Ws w ill not consldsr hearsay

Ws *111 hsar what you havs to say, howsver.
Mr. Bushnsll:

Our f ir s t choics in this is C in c in n a ti.

That is unaniaous with a ll tha banks in S p r in g fie ld .
Ths Sscrstary of ths Trsasury:
Mr. Bushnsll:

Row cany banks ars thsrs?

Thsrs ars six national banks and two sav­

ings banks, sight altogsthsr.
Ths 8scrstary of ths Trsasury:

What would bs your second

choics?
Mr. Bushnsll:

I think Clsvsland would.

Ths Sscrstary of ths Treasury:

Is this ths d is tr ic t whicfc

you think should bs crsatsd?
Mr. Bushnsll:
with that.*
Chicago

Yss,

I would fsal prstty well s a t is fis d

Speaking personally now, cur bank would favor

for sscond, but ths othsr banks of S p rin ^ fis ld

favor Clsvsland as sscond choics.
Th ^ 9a xttary of ths Trsasury:

Is that bscauss of Stats

pride, or of wore lntiaats businsss relations than with



J.

L.

4-M3

Busbnell

C h lo i0T

Hr. Bushnall:

I think. the choice cf Cleveland for ••cc n d

is » © n Slat a pride.
Chicago.

Our buelr.ee* next to Cincinnati le with

Cincinnati, Chicago ani Hew Tcrfc are our princi­

pal connections.
The Secretary of Agriculture:

Had you thought cf Columbus?

Mr. Bushne 11:

He, that ie new, einoe there hat been any

discussion had.

But even so, even if ua are only 40 sllee

Iro s Columbus and twice that distance from C in cin nati,

I

aa satisfied ae would prefer Cincinnati.
Tha Secretary of the Treasury:

Tour trade relations are

acre with Cincinnati?
Ur. Bu*hnell:

Very such sore, yee,

a ir .

8TATEMF5T OF W. B. 01TBHARDT.
The Secretary of the Treasury:
Hr. Oebhardt:

W. B. Gebhardt.

The Secretary of tha Treasury:
Mr. Gebharct:

State your nasa.

What do you represent?

I represent the Clearing Rouse of Dayton,

O h io .
Tha Secretary of the Treasury:
Hr. Geahar t :




By reeolutlon?

Be; they a«fead us to coaa down, and tha

ac

W.

B.

a«bh»r^t.

4443

Secretary and Tr#aiur«r cs^r e dosn, and they delegated ae tc
apeak Tor tbs other banks, and aaksd s« tc attend and rap—
resent the*.
Tbs Secretary of tha Treasury:

With what can* are ycu

ccnneetedT
Hr. Osbhar :t:

City National Bank and tha City Trust and

Savings Bank*
Tha Secretary of tha Treasury:

Tour position with tha* is

what?
Mr. Gsiihar t :

President of both*

Tha Secretary of ths Treasury:
Vr* CfSbbar :t :

Cincinnati,

What is Pay ton9a preference?

strong.

Ths Secretary of tbs Treasury:

T*,at would be n atural, cf

couraa.
Ur. Oebhar t :

Cincinnati ws chocse,

becauas t« are in sore

direut c wwnnicatlcn witi thaw, and ws can ccacunloate with
thaw.

Tha ^entleaan frow Zanesville Mentioned about tha

flo o d .

1 wish tc say cur loss in Cay ten was osar ons hundred

a i l l i o n d o llars.

Ws had no say to gat to any place except by

autowobile tc C incinnati; and as he says, wa did not know
woat the result would ba, but
cur request.



.Cincinnati raepended nobly to

Me cti*ar City could have anasered the pur *.se, b

1.

ow »«

»a c o u ld

B.

4444

Gabharat

not got to them.

Tr.s whole ttSawl V a l l e y

can aen* to Cincinnati in tho Kooning and return to thair
hcuae

in tfta av^ning and be accom odated.

Tae Secretary of tho Treasury :

What ia your bank, did

you

ea y ?

Vr. Oabharct:

Tha City national and tha City Truat and

Savings.
Tha Sacratary or tha Traaaury:

Washington kind cf helped

you out, did it not, or offered to, about that tlwe?
Mr. Oebhar~t:

Vawhin.ton County?

The Secretary of tfce Treaaury:
kr. Oetdierdt:

Washington, L . C.

Tea, but It took t in e , and It did not tal

tine for C incinnati.

They did It at cnce.

The Secretary of Agriculture:

What would be your eeoond

choice?
Mr. Oa bar t:

1 do not think we have any eecond choice.

It

le Cincinnati altogether.
The 8«crotary ef Agriculture:
could net put the oank in,
Mr. GeoharAt:

Suppose we found that we

t&en where ehouid we put it?

We eay Cincinnati.

We hope you cannot find

any ouch reaecn.
The Secretary of the Treaaury:
next?



Would you not favor Dayton

W. 8 .

M r•

>4 c h a r d t :

co uld n o t |tt
TLe
of

Ho,

your

of

D utln aa*

4445

we do not

a ir,

c»ra

fo r i t ^

##

know we

mo *e art n o t a s k i n g f o r I t .

!t ,

Sac r o t a r y

G ja h a r it

tha

Treasury:

Oa t o w a r d #

W o u ld

C h ic a g o

tha n a t u r a l

or C levelan d

trend

after

C in c in n a ti?
vr.

Oebher^t:

account# at
v ith

Tt*at

both

la

p lace#,

vary h a rl
an£

to

we h a v e

#ay.
a

We c a r r y

fo o d

deal

of

d e alin g #

both.

Th# Secretary
r###rv##

aow,

of

Where do you carry y o u r

th# T r e a s u r y :

aov are

they

1 e h o u ld

d istrib u te d

M r.

O w bfeard t:

l#a#t

on# h a l f ,

50

per c#nt

To#

Secretary

of

the

now?

aay C i n c i n n a t i
of

our

Treaaury:

w o u ld

haw# a t

ree#rv#e.
W here

ia

the r e m a i n d e r

placed?
M r.
a n '.

Qeohar- t:

St.

Wew T o r k ,

C h ic ag o ,

The

Secretary

of

n a .e e ,

r # « 1 .a n c #

an- o c c u p a t i o n .

C rlt##:

C.

th#

D.

D.

Treaeury:

C rlt#a,

L ia a,

Tfc# Secretary of th# T r e a e u r y :




C levelan d

L o u ie .

S T A T EM C T T o r C .

M r.

P h ilad e lp h ia,

C T IT S 8.

W ill

yo u

atate

your

O h io .

Whoa do ycu re p r# a e n t?

•©

C.

Mr.

Critss:

racily,

Z.

Critaa

4446

I a * not a uth orlza d tc

spam k

and die not axpact to ba c a l l a d

i a r and Manager of tha F i r s t n a t io n a l
Tha 8acratary of tea T r a a s u r y :

f c r anyoody

upon,

but

I ax Caah-

Bank of L i era.

What

is ycur p r a fa r a n c a f o r

tha l o c a t io n of a ratarva bsunk in t h i a d i s t r i c t ?
Mr. C r l t a a :
o n th ia l l n a ,

If

looatad w i t h i n a ra g io n c i r c u a s c r i b a d

Cincinnati.

Tha Secretary
Mr. C r l t a a :

of

tha T r a a s u r y :

C hicago.

Tha 8ac ra ta ry of A g r ic u l t u r a l
a district

in wblch C i n c i n n a t i

<r a d i a t r l c t

la y o u r f i r a t p r a fa r a n c a f o r
would ba tha h a a d q u a r t a r a ,

in which Chicago would ba tha haadqu&rtars?

Mr. C r l t a a :

My f i r s t

p r a fa r a n c a ,

llt t la aalflsh,

would ba C h ic a g o ,

about tha a a i « ,

and no f u r t h a r

and f r o a ,

And ycur aacond choice?

but probably

in n a t t e r s of

rem ittance to

an£ we probably would gat a b a t t a r gu a ra n ta a of

T at

is only a p r a a u ^ p t i o n .

naar C incinnati,
or

with e i u a l

b *c a u »e

of la r g a r

Va ars e q u a lly *

b u s ln e e * f a c l l l t i a s ,

and *o re

our o u s i n s * * trends t h i a way than C h ic a g o .
Toe Secretary

C leveland;



ia a

bacauaa tha d l s t a n c a a ara

s i x psr csnt divi "lands aa acco««rodations,
aasata.

that

of A g r i c u l t u r e :

ara yc u r r a l a t i o n s

Ho* dc you lo ck upon
in tim ate thara?

•O

C.

U r . Crltae:
I

sh o u ld

*c.y

Tee,
about

ao

D.

Crites

far

eja a l

a*

*lth

bank

8e a retary

ox

rasa,

resid en ce

and

B ill.

3.

M r.

J.

the

re latio n *

these

STATFifSffT OF
T&a

444?

J.

Treaaury:

of

S.

are

concerned,

C in c in n a ti.

H IL L .

You

xay

atate

ycur

o cc u p atio n .
*111,

C aehler

of

tha

N a tio n a l

C ity

Bank,

C&arleeton, Weet V irginia.
The Secretary of the Treaeury:
Mr. R ill:

Who*

The Charleeton Clearing

Tiid Secretary of the Treaeury!
Mr. H il l :
Tite

you

repreeentt

Aeeoclatlon.

Houee

Hew nany banka?

12 banka.

Secretary of the Treasury:

Mr. H i l l :

do

State

and

llatlo nalT

Yee.

The 3ecretary of the Traaaury:

How

nany

of

each?

Mr. H il l : 4 national and 8 State.
The Secretary of the Treaeury:

Have

a

you

froa

reso lu tio n

your Clearing Houee?
Mr. H ill:

Tha reeolutlon was

paeaed,

but

1 have

not

a

copy of it*
The Secretary of the Treasury:
Mr. H i l l :

la

the

purport

of

Favoring C in c in n a ti.

Tha Secretary of the Treasury:




W hat

Wae that in reeponee to

it?

ec

J.

C.

Hill

4446

•t l U iU t io a T
* r . H ill:

The resolution,

1 think, was passed before we

haw any letters or tele?ra?re frcs C incinnati.
Tne Secretary of the Treasury:
I that ties,

Cincinnati was a bit slow

w a»n't she?

Mr. H i l l :

Tee.

The Secretary of the Treaeury:

Vhat le your view about

the dletrlct?
Mr. H i l l :

Are you asking that question with refsrence tc

our State?
The Seoretary of the Treaeury:
State.

Y *s# I as speaking of your

It is incorporated in t i l l d is t r ic t .

Do you think

that is the beet diepeeltlon to wake of it?
Mr. H i l l :

My personal opinion is tfcat cur State should be

divided.
The Secretary cf the Treasury:
Mr. H i l l :

In what way?

1 think the northern part of the State wculd

naturally go to Pittsburgh,

or to sowe ether section that

we ehould net be connected with on account of the railroad
fa c lllt le e and sail f a c l l l t i e e .
The Secretary of the Treasury:
buslneee?



And the natural couree of

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J.

tfr. H il l :

s.

H ill

44*9

Tha natural courea of buninees, yae,

Tr.e Secretary of tha Treasury:

a ir .

Kow we had toac testimony

fr o * aosd citite e in southern West Virginia in favor of
Ric. ecnd or Washln ton.
*'r. H ill:

T tat was in tha Horfolk A Western aacticn.

Tha Secretary of tha Treasury:

Tour tra£e relatione ara

•o r t with Cincinnati th?n with any other large city in tha
dietriot?
Mr. H i l l :

Tea, a ir .

The Secretary of the Treasury:

In that the u n a n i n o u a

aattl»aent of the banka of Charleston?
Mr. H i l l :

Tea. a i r .

The Secretary of the Traasury:

Hew a bo ut

the

tusinese men

that la their view?
Mr. H il l :

The Chaaber of Co?a*rce and the Buaineaa Wen's

Aescclation both endoree Cincinnati by reaclutlon.
The Secretary of tha Traaeury:

What icultf be your aacond

choice, aaousiAg that Cincinnati was not chosen, and that
thle diatrlct wae laid out?
Mr. H i l l :

I euppoee if I anawer U V a

the raet of them, 1

would say Charleaton, but 1 really think *e would favor
Rlch«on£, Virginia or Baltimore.



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R.

L.

Archtr

4460

STAT^MKWT OF ROP^RT L . ARCHER.
Tr.o 3ocrotary o f the Troasury:

State

y o u r n & ^e,

rosidenco

and occupation?
Mr. Archtr:
3ank,

Robert L. Archer, C a a h i a r of tho First National

Huntington, lost V irginia.

Tho Secretary of tho Troasury:

Dc you roprossnt tho

Clearing Houss?
Mr. Archsr:

lo, air;

I roprossnt Grcup 3 o f th o l o u t

Virginia Bankers' Aaooclation.
Tho Sscrstary of tho Troaoury:

What doos that comprloo

in tho way of torritory?
Mr. Archor:

Tno torritory

in s o u t h e a s t e r n Wost V irg in ia,

consisting of CaOoll, Wayne, Putnam, L i n c o l n ,

L o g a n and

Mingo Countioo.
Tho Secretary of tho Trsasury:

What is tho view of your

group ao to tho district that should bo locatod hero?




•c

Archer

Mr. Archer:

*451

Our group has a resolution on f i l e with your

coacittee now an* their onanlsoui opinion wae that cur
territory ought to be attached to C in cin nati.
The Seoretary of the Treasury:

That ie your f ir s t

cnoice?

Mr* Archer: Tee, e ir .
T h . 3dur«ta.ry cl th. Tr.aaury:

b.
What * i l l /y c u r a.ccnd

choice, either of a city within this d istric t cr outelde?
Mr. Archer:

We really have no second choice.

le our only c it y .

But if

Cincinnati

it had to be so«« other c ity ,

I

think Richwiond, Virginia, wculd serve us as well or better
than any other.
The Secretary of the Trenwury:

That is a ll} thank you.

le there any one here representing Chillicothe?
Vincer*nes,

Indiana?

Paln teville,

Or

If not, we w ill hear next from

Kentucky2

STATEMENT OF W. E. BAX*R.
Tr*e Secretary of the Treasury:

State your naee,

resi^snce,

occupation?
Mr. Baker:

V. E. Baker; cashier German national Bank

Vincennee, Ind iana.
The Secretary



o f th e T r e a e u r y :

What do y c u

ropreeent?

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W. » .

Mr. Baker:

Baker.

4452

I represent all three of the

^national Park e

in Vincennes.
Ths Sscrstary of the Trsasury:

Havs you any credentials

froa tnea?
hr. Baker:

1 havs a lsttsr froa each one of thea.

Onj of ths banks has recoaaende'* Chicago as thslr f ir s t
choics ana ths other two Cincinnati.
Ths Secretary of ths Trsasury:

Let these bs file d as

exhibits to your tsstiaony.
Ths papsrs sere fllsd accordingly.
Ths Se cretary of ths Trsasury:

What wculd bs ycur sscond

choice, if you wsrs not attached to Cincinnati?
Mr. Baker:

Chicago.

Ths Ss crstarp of ths Trsasury:
Mr. Baker:

Ft. Louis, thsn.

S t . Louis, though,

We p rsfsr not to bs slth

if as can gst around it .

Ths Secretary of the Treasury:
Mr. Baksr:

What is your third choics?

Why?

The relations vlth St. Louis ars not as con-

I Tsnlent as thsy are with Cincinnati and Chicago.
The Secretary of ths Treaeury:

Tou aean transportation

f a c i l it ie s ars not?
M r.

Baksr:




Yes,

sir.

C in cin n ati

is

acat co n v e n ie n t

to

•®

K*

BaUr

4463

us oX all of thsa.
Tes Sseretary of ths Treasury:

Whers do you havs ths

■ost intimate trai« relations?
Mr. Baker:

I aheuld judge siost of it vould .ba with

Cincinnati and than it sould bs *it h Indianapolia.
Tns Secretary cf tr.s Trsasury:

That is a l l ,

thank you*

STATEMFlfT OF J . 5 . BUCKIHGHAM.
Ths Secretary of ths Traasury:

Stats your naae,

residence

and occupation?
Mr. Buckingham:

J . C. Buckin^haa,

cashier P ain tsv llle

Vational Bank.
Ths Secretary of Agriculture:

How fa r is P aintev ille free

Cincinnati?
Mr. Buckln&ham:

It is 155 a i l s s .

Ths 8scrstary of Agriculture:
Mr. Buckingham:

What do you repreeent?

P ain tev ille, P lk e v llle ,

Jenkins,

McHooerts and Wayland.
Ths Sacritary of Agrioulturs:
Mr. Buckingham:

By resolution?

I aa cashier of ths P a ln tsv ills Bank and

Tics Prssidsnt of ths Rational Bank cf P ik sv ills and




J.

Z.

Bu©kii f5!h**

4454

F r i t U t o t of U n First latlctuil fttnX at Jorklno aa4 Fresiaer.t
•f

tin boak & | M e b e r t f , ona Fresl aant of tfeo b&rJr tt Way 1stn ^ .
Tfca Be ©rotary of A^rirul turei Ib ir s srs t*c««
Vr. l u l l i t — l 9|) tho H i t s M y Xlvtr .
Mr. Ksvoi They ore o il in thot novly developed aoal r t * l « «
tho B i f Swidy R iver,
Tho Soarotfiry e f tho Tronmiryi Cto »h i roilrooii?
Mr. Baoklu*h*j&: The Chess,a ko & Ohio*
T>iO Ssertisry e f Agricultures Row many W unU 46 yrv^ o^rooo»tM
Mr. 9uskir.*hass Five*
Tho S o s r t V r r of A f r i w l t u r o i 8t*t* or Setltftal?
Mr* Buakl. ^hftct T> rss I s t U n s l ona W c

state*

Tho So ore I k ry or A«ri<mX turos And. whs.t su^ ycvr vires snd
i
Mr.

9t

T>\e Seorotery

Mr.

Clsetoni 11 *

Arriswloturo* fh ft •nsild be y^ur ee-end

Isokinthtss Xy porser-el shelve er sxpretsUf tho » tehee

'f I ^ k r c

Ksr tu }ky|

The B e a r s t




ry o f A *r I"n l t u r e :

B e th *

ec

44b5

J . S . Buckingham

ilr. Buckingham:

My p«r«onal choice would be Baltimore,

but I think Eastern Kentucky wault prefer Loxilevllle.
Tha Secretary of A-riculturo:

Tcu think Esetern Kentucky

• ould prefer Cincinnati over Louisville?
Mr. Buckingham:

Tee, e l r .

All of their business i *• with

Cincinnati and 90 per cent of their banking bu*inese lo
«lth Cincinnati.
The Secretary of Agriculture:

And they vould

follow that

rather than *ny State pride?
Mr. Buckingham:

Tea.

STATfTMTWT OF L . W. DAVIS.
Tho Secretary el Agriculture:

Mill ycu otate your nsme,

reeidence an* occupation?
Mr. Davie:
cf Aenland,

L. H. Davie, Preol^ent,

Second Watlcnal Bank

Kentucky.

The Secretary of Agriculture:

Do you repreeent any one

except that bank?
Mr. Davie:

le live in a tri-Stato eectlon, ec-called,

le have eix banke thore, with a combined capital Wld * rplue
of # 1 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 and deposit* agr.re at Ing about # 3 ,3 0 0 ,0 0 0 and




ec

L.

V.

Davis

44t6

aocut 15 per cant, of cur money le kept in Lo uisville and
Mew Tcrk end other cities end 85 per cent, in C in cin nati.
The Secretary of Agriculture:

Ycu are epeaklng fo r a ll

the banka?
Mr. Davie:

All thoee elx banks, yeet e ir .

The Secretary of Agriculture:

Did they authorise you to

epmak for U e a ?
Mr. Davie:

Yeet e ir .

Tbe Secretary of Agriculture:

Have ycu an / resolution

f rom them?
Mr. Devie:

Vo.

Tfce Secretary cf Agriculture:

Their first choice le

fo r a dletrlct substantially ae thle le outlined?
Hr. Davis|

Tee

eir.

The Secretary oi Agriculture:

With Cincinnati ae the

headquarte re?
Mr. Davie:

Yee, for convenience of getting here for money.

The Secretary of Agriculture:

Vhat would be their eeccnd

choice if we could not take thle act lent
Hr. Davie:

Loulevllle.

The Secretary of Agriculture:
Mr. Davie:
nectlon.




Chicago or East.

And their third choice?
We want to get qulc|l con-

Our community la an iron and lumber d le t r lc t .

ec

L.

9.

Davis

445?

The Secretary of Agriculture:
you have reference
Mr. D&vle:
more.

tc

that

By

wculd be

Fast,

what

c ity

would

ran^e?

w ith in

It 1 9 lb or 16 hours to Washington or B alti­

There *euld not be any difference between these two

placee.
The Secretary of Agriculture:
M r.

Davis:

Ve

Vhat about Richmond?

vould not make

m uch

c h o ic e

betw een

the

thres places.
The Secretary of Agriculture:

Have you any present con­

nections with those c itie s tc speak cf?
Mr. Davie:

Mono whatever.

The Secretary of the Treasury:
Mr. Fletcher:

I am here for Ind ianap o lis.

STAT^^rrr

of

s

.

a

.

The Secretary of the Treasury:
U r . Fletcher:

S.

The Secretary

flftch1
^

You

*ay

What dc

stats

ycu

nas*s#

you

represent?

The Clearing Bouee.
the Treasury:

Doe a Indianapolis wiih tc

preeent a claim for the bank itself?




.

A. Fletcher.

The 3scretary of the Treasury:
Mr. Fletcher:

Is Indianapolis represented?

'«

8.

Kr.

Fl*tch*r:

A.

Fletcb«r

4456

Ko.
#

The Sacratary of tha Treasury:

Aa i t

ia

pretty naarly

lunch i ica peroap* you *111 require a lit t le *ore time—w:r. Fletcher:

He juat a accent.

Taa Secretary of tha Treasury:

I wa* going tc aay ^e *111

* 1 ** you wore t is * after luncheon, but you aay proceed until
that time.
Hr. Fletcher:

Our preference 1* for Chicago*

The Secretary of tha Treasury^:

You have sose reaclutlcna

frow your Clearing Houee?
Mr. Fletoher:
brought

No resolutions, but I a p p e a r here and have

«o*« figure* which I understand you aaked eoire one

to t>rln£ froa ln<*lfmapolia, *ho represented the Clearing
Houee.

It

ia a comparison between our trade relatione

*lth Cincinnati, Chicago an<* St. Louie, and shoe a practically
fcO per cent, of cur business le *itfc Chicago, in an? out.
The 8*cretary of Agriculture:
Mr. Fletcher:

And what with Cincinnati?

The ltewe eent In a period of six daya in

February, out of ICO per oent, to Cincinnati * * r « 1 5 .% per
c en t, cf our t o ta l, and in our receipt* I t .6 per cent, and
Chicago dulm-: the ease period 7 4 .8 per cent and 90 per cent.
The Secretary of Agriculture:



You are epeaklng of bank

•c

S.

A,

F letcher

4459

itcue?
Mr. Fletcher:

Tee.

The Secretary of Agriculture:

Hew far dc ycu think thle

reflecte n o m l or a r t ific ia l condition®?
Hr. Fletcher:

That i i a very accurate reflection cf the

a r e ra*e ?olu*e of buslneee which paaae®

The Secretary of Agriculture:

between the tewn#.

Under the preeent syetea the

balance# you keep are not determined eolely by noraal
conditions.
Mr. Fletcher:

Tueee are not ba*ed on balance#.

figure# I aa glvin

The

ycu, which 1 understand you aeked for,

arj to she* th# routing of i teats, and t h l e represents th#
t c I u m of iteas thst we f i l # for ere-it or rscelve or r $ * l t .

Th# Secretary of Agriculture:

I underetcod t h a t

Inilanapoll# expreeeed that preference at Chicago and that
you #ert to euoult tcee figure#.
Mr. Fletcner:

T#e.

The Secretary of Agriculture:

Will you Juet f i l e

them

with the reporter?
Hr. Fletcher:

Tee.

The papere were accordingly f i l e d .
T he S e o r e t a r y




of

th e T r e a s u r y :

H a v e you a n y t h i n g

else

to

*«

3.

A.

Fletcher

4400

offer?
Wr. FiJtchert

Wo.

The Secretary of tha Traasury:

What ia tha aacond choice

cf Indianapolle, Chicago being fir *t ?
* r . rlttchtr:

They have no second chcica up thara.

They

figure it *ould entirely disturb their coll action ai
to have tbea uaa any other point than that.
Tna Secretary of tha Traasury:

Well youf ordinary

arrangaaanta between bark* will not ba diatrubed by thia
ayatsff.
Mr. Fletcher:

Wa figure wa would wave tha sa&e tiwa wa

would aava now.
Tha Secretary of tha Treaeury:

If you had to face that

alternative what would be the next beat place to locate
tha bank, ao fa r aa Indlanapolle la concerned?
Mr. Fletcher:

We have no preference at all and have not

atteapted to f i urt What any routing of mail would D«—
The Secretary of the Treaaury:

I f thia d la trict ahould

be laid out aa outlined, of courae ycu could not be attached tc Chicago.
Hr. Fletcher:
T ie Secretary



We.
of

the T r e a a u r y :

C o n sid e rin g

it

in

that

a

*

S.

A.

F ie t © h e r

4401

%■

1^

M

hypothesis fcr the

you think you

T^e Secretary of

ho lds

Hr.

the

F letcher:

e ratio n

in

by

W hat

can

In

b u sin e ss

dcinw

; 1 smre

The Secretary
te

cf

ef

on

te
is

cou ld

m ake
ju st

ue le a s t.

ycu

w il l net ba

b *nke
and

awara

are

that

th ia

reserve

t* k e

in to

-er^s I t ­

d ie tr io t.

the

facts

attem p tin g

wh#r« would

d is tu rb

course

arran*s&ent;

th ia

rsservee

t h l n f we

have

Of

the ordinary trantactiona between

interfered with
bank

w c u l i p refrab ly

Treasury!

the

then

served?

beet

Fletcher: Cincinnati

M r.

that

be

w o u ld

q u e stio n ,

a

a

re r e o n

eeccnd
the

c h o ic e,

o rd in ary

if

the

eecncrry

on ly

of

tie *

now?
the

Treasury: Of course

be ocneidered naturally, but ycu

dinary transact lens between

y- ur b n n k

factors

thoee

spenk

of

and O i ca~c .

the

or­

That

w ill net be dieturbed, even i f you ehruld be put in a dis­
trict in which

Chicr.«x>

is not located.

Bank w ill held the reserves

ef

the

The

banks of

Federal Bceerve
the

d is t r ic t and

it w ill be rescrteu to for re—die counting by sieaber banka
and w i l l .-le© exercise such clear lr.<r h«uee functions as

the

Feu^r il Reserve Bcaru determines it shall do,
M r,

FietcJier: Z should think it wculd

be

«• knew led m

what **ro*ntaj»» of c l e a r i n g they do for ue which wculd




of

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S.

:« » d s i

tc i u i

< IM tt1lll W
T/.c

ih #

Ktcra

*

a£

g*ith*r«c
M r*

it

by

At 1 P . M. a




so ursa

lx’ -*e u a a

thm a-re

w o uld 0#

ar.t•
Jf«a ■. y

NWfl

Irutl&na?

tiiiii : thojr hare r:C*e ctcvtlatl a© bor*

In d ia n *

S o i U g uiiti l«r*

Of

4463

the t t P M p u r y : ~L\t * 0 * 1 4

rtuviicrn £ a r t r f

lb-* Plstohiri I

F lo toher

a . pi s i o n .

40 B M ,
a/

A.

S ir te R n k o r © 1 Aeu

tio n ,

S i*lU u

rec«eo

ir**

*

n u r til

3s3C

P. V

by

»X - X3

4-403

AFTER

HTr*!*8

S T A T n m iT OF AKBRK^ SM ITH.

Tho SaertJtury ©f the Treasury: State ycur nftM , realdanee

\\

and coou ^tlon T

Mr. 8*1 th: Ar a m r 8s,ith; Sear^tsry of th@ Xfedlsaufc B^nkara1
A*too ia t ir n , Ir.^iw i&p clli; alao Vice Preelaent ef the I r ^ l w a

Katlcmal Bus*, Ir ^iKA&xella*
Ths 8a ore t*ry of tha Treaeury: Tr-u * * y prcooed*
Mr. 8 ltfcx Oortl«.:#n, at ycur Chiea*ro hearing you requ«*ted
Col. KoCullou rX, Ex—Presla&nt of cur Aftscoi&tien, ana
H r. Malictt of Ir ilr a a p o lls , tc «»athcr tf.ne intere* tirif In—
f o r M t i e a far you r a ^ r d ir.gr tba entabllehnant of * Faaarr 1
Reeerve B*nk and where I x*lana would s resfer to ba attache^.
They tumaU. ih li *atter w a r to m

ae Secretary of tba State

I t t e o U U c a ana eeked aa te preeent it to you at yrur hearing
ir Cincinnati.

With that er.l in vlow we ««rt out a latter to

every b&nlt lr. Ir.aiana reaueetlnr thrt tbey ^ive ua tha a»«u t
a f raaarraa earriea in Chi oesro, S t. Lcula and Cincinnati and
a l i o thair vrefer&noe a» between Chicr^o# S t . L ^u ie, Cincinnati
ana L o u is v ille , n * » i n ? * fir e t ehciee nna a e e 'r a o h 'lo a f
fclea tha preference ae between C M f c




ana S t . Lcula.

*1-14

A, Smith

4464

* ! • • M k « U theft to Indio&te the ^ r o e & U g j i of buoinoeo
between thair loeality ana tho above najeed c ltle e ,

Vo re—

f*c lv<sd 666 re pi loo cot of 937 bank* of a l l kind* in Indiana*
Tha Secretary of tha Treaeury: Tow have a o©py ef tha in—
V *ir ? which you w ill f i l e , hnve ycu?
Mr. S r Ith : Too* Of thlo total of 9 ST,

05 I n U m l

Bank*

w ith a oapital of # 3 3 ,3 3 3 ,COO roportod and 354 State B^rVa
and Trust Coapaniee with a oapital ef $ £ £ ,3 3 9 ,8 5 6 , oapital
and eurplue, ana 1C? private banke with a or pi tal Fund our—
pluo of £ 1 ,4 0 3 ,9 6 0 , mafein*T a total cf 6G6 brrJfco w ith a cap­
i t a l repreeontlr.* # 6 0 ,2 7 4 ,8 3 8 ,
Of thie number the gaticmal Benke reported favorably to
C h io **o , 133 wit)

oapital end eurplue of #35, C-67,Q6£*

Cln—

Olnnati 62 with oapital ana eurplue ef # 6 ,3 9 4 ,9 8 5 * S t , L o u ie ,
pf

neno; L o u is v ille ,

U>, »ith * oapital anc otxrplue ef # 1 ,^ 9 3 ,5 8 3 ,

TKraO were eoat taring, re pro eon tin or # 7 5 ,3 0 0 c ap ital,
T h i*

flvot *

total of 806 Rational Ifrnkn roper t i n * , w ith

# 3 3 ,5 3 3 ,3 3 3 o^pii 1 and eurplue, for efcica«*>,
Fcr eeocns. choice Chic- ro 6C banv.e with a o^pltrl *nd eurpkme * f # T ,5 4 7 ,7 3 6 ; Ciiseiwsaii, 66 banke with * oapital




al-15

4466

A* Pitl til

and surplus or

# 1 5 ,3 3 3 ,7 1 0 ;

Leu Is 31 bank* with

St.

it a l and surplus of # 7 ,4 4 7 ,9 3 6 ;
oapltal

ted

surplus

with a capital ana

of

surp lus

30 banks w ith

U u U v lll*

# 1 ,9 5 6 ,3CC;

and

cap­

a

a

banks

s c a t t e r in g 38

cf # 1 ,2 5 7 ,£ 1 2 .

As between Chios<re and St. Lc>ule, Chicago SOI banka with
a capital and surplus of # 3 3 ,4 6 3 ,7 8 7 ;

St*

Louis 4 banka with

a capital and rurplus cf # 7 8 ,4 2 5 .
Husebor cf St* to Brnks and Trust Coerp^niae reporting 21 4 .
For ChlotifB 341 with a capital and surplus ef # 1 9 ,1 4 8 ,1 2 6 ;
Cincinnati 66 frith a capital and surplus of # 4 ,0 4 3 ,6 4 0 ;
S t.
2

Louie 1 with a capital and nurplue cf § 2 8 ,0 0 0 ; Lcuiswills
with a capital and surplus af # 1 ,0 1 5 ,4 0 0 ; scattering 33

w ith a capital and surplus of # 1 ,1 0 5 ,4 9 1 .
For seocna efceloe Chlcajre 58

w ith

# 3 ,6 4 4 ,7 C £ ; Cincinnati 112 with

a

a

c a p ita l

c a p ita l

#8 ,8 3 3 ,1 3 6 ; St. k u i t 34 with a capital
# 6 ,3 0 1 ,3 0 0 ; Lculswllle 38 with
# 1 ,4 6 1 ,9 7 0 ; scat taring 112 with

ana

capital

a
a

ana

capital

and

rurp lus

surp lus

surplus

ana

of

of

surplus

ana

of

of

surp lus

of

# 6 ,1 7 8 ,5 6 0 *
As botw«en Chicago and S t .

k n it ,

C h icag o

291

w ith

i t a l sad surplus of # 3 2 ,4 6 0 ,6 3 0 ; St* LAiis 7 ^1 t h
and surplus of # 3 0 0 ,0 0 0 ; so? t tor in f 56
surplus


w ith

a

a

a

cap­

orbital

cap ltsl

of # 2 ,6 3 9 ,0 3 6 . Private banks Chief*re 74 with *

and

a l- 1 6

4466
A*

%h

surplus of t l 5 l t360| Cincinnati 30 with a ee.plta l ami sur­
plus of $ 2 7 4 ,ICC; Lcuiswllls 4 with a capital and surplus of
#S6,COC ; scattering 9 with a capital and surplus s f $ 1 2 1 ,5 0 0 ,
Sso^nd oho 1 os 18 with a os pi tal and surplus of $3 4 9 ,3 0 0 $
Cincinnati 3? with a capital snd surplus of |4 5 T #200—
Ths Ssorstary el* ths Trsasurys That is not m aterial, in
vlsw of tho fact that thsy cannot become seashore of ths
systsm*

It is sisrsly lnulontiro of thslr sentl&ent*

Hr. Sal ths Toe.

It is ■srely history*

Tha Secretary of Agricultures H a w ycu anything to shew
wsrs ths danks ars that sxprsss preference fro* Cincinnati
m d Chicago and St* LoulsT
. Mr. tel ths They ars a ll ever ths s ta ts , from ths northern
bcunaary tc ths O M e Hirer*
Ths Sscr^tary of ths Trsasurys Tru can supply a lis t ?
II -. Bsithl I haws ret it ^ lt h a s , but I can t up ply it*
Ths Secretary of the Trsasurys Furnish that,

fir in g ths

s. lures* of each b?nk.
Mr. Salth: I w i l l be <rlad tc ao that*
Ths Secretary of the Trsasurys Hew f * r dr you thlnJ^ths




*l- lf

4467

A.

Sraith

bank* in Making the so repilas hr.ro b*er> lnfluencea by tbm cor.«
f

•i (U r * t l o n at to whloh dletrlct or « h l 9h elty wculd bo likely
to bo tho cue to earn a dividend cm tho stock; where that ocevelderatloa bee boon the p r m l l i n f cne, how far wculd ycu eay
that haa in f lueaoad the M t l e e of theee bnnkeT
Mr* Salths I think they fe e l that a bank Ir. Chloaae wculd
a pretty *oe- woney natter ami

probably declare r*

rood ^LlTiaond*

The Seoretary of the Treasury* Dc ycu think th.' t hao more
influence with thea th t eort eecEno&lo end fundamental queeIon th t 0*1*311 to <iotc:n? Lno the ^u^etlcn?
Mr* Sal ths I

think a

many favor Chi o r pt * on a c o n m t

of aaay of their buelneee intoreeta r i n R ir. that direction*
The Seoretary of the T r a a u r y s Ton think that haa Influenced
thea acre than to bo In a bank whloh le eure to earn 6 per
oent,

lntereet?

Mr. ftolthi Too*
T o Secretary of the Treaeury* Ia there any doubt ir your
Mnl

‘.hat I bank M M

fBt

« UNI

i tri 't

r r r c ^ u by Q| -

olnnatl veuld be able to earn lt« Internet on the etookt
Mr. Sal ths I bollewe It ^culd*

territory#



It le t e r U liily a wood

al- ia

4408

A* Saith*
-■

Ths

opttftry of tha Treaeury* Ht<v$ ycu ejsytblr^ also tc

m gp«tt

Mr. Sal thi For your further edification we took the matter
up with the ChRabtr ef Coaunerce in Ind ianap o lis, ef which I
rji a aeaber, a«a I re present the 2:.

Their secretary sent

oat a letter tc various Chaabere of Coaneroe and Boards of
Trade evor the State atkir f whether they favored Chicago,
Cincinnati or S t , Louis or Louisville for ths establishment
cf a Fsasral Reeerve Bulk and ir.dirn tin**—
Ths Seorotary cf the Treaeury: A copy of th&t letter of
inquiry w ill bs f i l e d also?
Mr. Sal thi Tee, that is a l l hers.

Of coures there are not

aany C h u b e r s of Cosasroe cr Beards of Trade scattered over
In d ia n a, but ws have 12 replies hr. re rnd of ths 12 seven
faversd Chicago,

cur Cincinnati sna m s seettersa, I v i l l

>0 rlsd to leave these r lt h yea, .
Ths So erst rry of the Trsasury: Thres asay be f ilea a n ex­
h ib its tc your tsetiaony.
Papers i w c r u i n f l y file d .

STA Trrrarr

o f ha n n rs

s,

sckta o ,

T**s Sscrstary of ths Treasury* W ill ycu etrto your n a n *,
rasi4§ads



mw

occupation?

U arous S .

8 (m t a f «

Mr. S m U g i Maroua S . 8eRtft?y T l M P r «t id « it Indiana
B n U r a 1 Aeaool: lion.

This ocrra* c^d o no e ha a sear. had

»ith a ll \bi banki af tha Steta, end I *1 1 1 f i l e that w ith­
out any further states ant unlade ycu want tc hear froa
Ift iM V ilX l.
Tha Secretary ef tha Treaaury* I f tha State ahculd ba
divided between t*c dletrlo te, where ahculd ycu any tha
act.thar

part of the * U~ ta eh u Xu i»e ;>utt

Mr. Bcr.tap* Wall wa favor Chicago, but far eaoona oh io e #
8 t # Lcula by a lo a f wmye.

Ycu aaa va are away dew*

in tha

pookat.
Tha Secretary af Aprlculturai That la Bv navi H a t
Mr. B n t a rt Taa. And S t. Lcula la cn a cireot llna with
ua.
Tha Ba oratory of tha Treaeury* Mew «b h of Bcuthern Inal ana
would ba regarded aa tributary tc Bt. Lcula natur llyt
Mr. Bontfift Aa far north aa Tlneenne* rr probably Terra
Rauta.

1 notice one of tha banka af Tarrr Knute haa appearad

hara.

Tha Baoratary cf Agriculture* Would that apply to tha
ecuthaaatern part of tha BtateT




4470
Karoo* 8 .

Sonts^*

Mr. 8 «n U g s Wof they would w t c m l l y come to C lr slw u iti.
Praoiioally m r y t h i R ^ aa*t of Tlne*im«s would all

r* to

C incinnati, but w* *r * *o situr tod that our railroad
facllltl** « d

everything farcr St, I t r U ,

our eecm d ? h d o e .

Thst would bo

I *hruld Ilk * to fllo this papor whloh

oft*c out Sundaf, which g i n e our fu ll bank •te n d in g &nd
•we nr bank in th* City.

W* he we tun bonk* if; th* Clearing

Hcu*o#
Th* Secretary of th* Treasury: That i* an accurate »Ute«*
sent*
Mr. Bcntr r: T o *, *irs oor.pllad by on*

of

cur bankar**

Tha j a parr ware Kcoeralnrly f llo d .
T )* Secretary of the Treaeuryt Who raprancnt* To rra RrutoT
Mr. Row*; I do not thin* thore

1* anybody here.

Tha Secretary of th* Treaeury: I i there ar.yma also fr o *
Indiana who wish*# to be haardt
Mr. Raw*: Mr. Church af Mu-ci* 1* horo.
STATnm rr

of

c.

h.

church.

Th* Secretary cf tha Treaeuryt Tou nay etrt* yc r n a«e#
r t t U e n o e and com patlon*
Mr. Churc* : C. B. Chm ro
Delaware C n a t y i P t l m a l Tfcnk.



Ir c l a n * ; C ahler of tl *
I an al*o 8a^r*taryof

ths

4u n c l e

The
inf

C learing

Secretary

or

Houee.
the

Treaeury:

Do

ycu

repreeent

the

C le^

Hcues?

Ir.

Church:

r s p r s e e r .t

the

Only

info rm ally;

three

The S e c r e t a r y
i r m C h urch:

of

rational
the

they

Banks

took

r.c a c t i o n *

I

th*re.
My

Tre a e u r y :

authority?

T hat mush e c .

The S e c r e t a r y
4r.

C h urch:

Ths

Sscrstary

Ey

o f th e T r e a s u r y :
Ey a u t h o r i t y ,
of

the

yes,

Treasury:

authority?

a ir,

or

fcy r e q u e s t .

What

le

your

vie*

of

this

satter?

M r .C h u rc h :
atout,
or

e ith

M u rcie

Sow f o r

*-l4 ,0 0 C

th is

say.

l o c a t e d h a l f way to C h ic a g o ,

the ea&e f a c i l i t i e s

ra ilro a d .

ss

le

eith e r say,

e i x days p a s t

re m itta n c e s,

te le g ra p h ,

m a il

e n d in g S a t u r d a y n l g a t
of

45 p e r c e n t ,

Ths o t h » r was d i v i d s d

ju s t

betw een

th e * comin *

In d ia n a p o lis

and

C h ic a g o •
Ths S s c r s t a r y

of

the T r e a e u r y :

Was t h a t

is

as n e a r l y

indicative

of

th s

g e n e r a l co n d itio n ?
Mr.

C h u rc h :

e stim ate

it,

T h st
it

Ths Cs c r e t a r y




is

Ju*t

th e way

about,
it

w o u ld

of the T r s s s u r y :

all

turn

as

I

can

out.

So yo u f a s c r

C incinnati,

447*

do you?
*r.
more

etuff

tc

explain

in

cn«

and

I

Church:

har«,
that

i> y.

Forty

per

He*

that

the

per

la

cf

thoae
cr

the R a t i o n a l

that

*4 0 ,0 0 0

$ 4 0 ,0 0 0
Bank

aould

*lth

any

clear

I

cosfort,

t n a t way

a ll

c f the T r e a a u r y :

the t l a e

C h urch.

Tee.

Th* S e c r e t a r y

aoee not

*ould

from

like

w ithout

cnecka,

* unc i a .

and

banker#.

to know aa

b e en c l e a r e d

to

through

expenee.

hut e t l l l

we have

ie

the

,

la

Forty

T hat

about

it

about

if

p e r c e n t haa

to go f o r

the T r e a a u r y :

How a r c

clearan ce

co ^ p a n iea .
th e/ & o in s to

be

you hava a F e d e r a l a y e t e x o f c l e a r a n c e a w h ich

irc lu d a

Sir* Church:

of

pro­

it?

t h ro u g h S t a t e Eanke and b a n k e ra and t r u e t

a ffe c te d ,

aena

the week.

The S e c r e t a r y

Mr.

I

banka

jrou w a n t e d

have

p e rh ap a an u n u a u a l t h i n g ,

a ll

away

againat f t a t e

not

ui*.

and $ 1 1 : ; , 0 0 0 waa

foreign,

perhapa

that wo

i n j 1«~£ , OOO o f d e p o a i t a

caah

That » a e

p o rtio n

fcr

tora

took

were

waa

that

on the groun.i

waa

checka

eoaethlng

cent,

a£0

two w a t U

of

cent

i® t h a y

that

|1 0 ,0 0 C

$ 1 0 0 ,0 0 0

Cincinnati

favor

then?

W e ll,

»•

«ill

h av e t o p r o v i d e

fo r

them o r pay

the expenee.
The S e c r e t a r y




of

the T r e a a u r y :

W ell,

will

they no t h a v e

t*

It

4473
C*

*c®e
Hr.
I

ex p e n se

Church.

I

too?
a*

all

ajr g e t t i n g

H. Cfcurcn.

getting

of

f r e - rsc-.#

these

these fr**e,

F e d e r a l R s a u rv e Bar k w e w i l l h a v e
o n ly

your

c a llin g

an i n q u i r y

th ia

The S e c r e t a r y

le rn in g
of

tin g

ad van tages,

tio n

on t h a t n o t .

one e l e e
Is

fro a

attentio n

to

som ething

cannct t e l l
That i s

In d ia n a ae s i l l

ia

because

in

put

the

I

heard

There

&*y

be

are

getting

thank

ycu.

from

hear

the

expense.

that

Ve

po in t.

into

along

yet.

all,

it

pay t h e

tc

this

the T r e a e u r y :

*e

if

and

th»t

I

aa

you s a l e

line*

If

s o a e compensa­
inxorm a-

there

Kertucky

is

no

nos*

L e x in g t o n r e p r e s e n t e d ?
Mr. H ove:

Mr.

Sharp o f M a y s v i l l s ,

Kentucky,

STATI3££WT CF H* C .
The S e c r e t a r y

of

the

T reasury;

is

here*

SHARP .

Stats

your

na&e

resi­

den ce and o c c u p a t io n *
Mr* S h a rp *
M -.y a v ille ,

H. C. S h a rp *

K en tuck y.

b u t w ie h to f i l e
The S e c r e t a r y
Mr.

Sh arp ;

of

I do not want
fo r

y ou r

to

N atio nal

ta k e

up

B m nk,

your

time

inform ation*

the T r t s u r y ;

Tou

favor

C in cin n ati?

the T r e a e u r y .

Fo r whom dc

T ee*

Tne S s c r e t a r /



th ie

C a sh ie r S ta te

of

you a p e a k .

4*74

your own bank o r t h e
Hr.

Sharps

The

town?

w hole

town.

It

ie

in

etated

a ll

thlm

brief.
The

Fecr^tary

of

the T r e a e u r y :

WAYFVILLE,

It a&y

be f i l e d .

u rgiw o A

KEWTUCKT,

REGI03/L BJWK FOB CIK BIHKATI.
M ayeville

i*

eixty- three

t o e Ohio R i v e r a n d L .
reach C i n c i n n a t i

in

(6 3 )

A V.

and

on«* a n d

cu etoaere
Factory,

ani C nada;

three

whoee go od * go to a l l

eurrrun

fe rtile

c u ltiv a tio n ;

ae

laet

fa ra in g

•

•

have f i v e

S u r p lu e

(5 )

and n i n e t y

(9 0 ) p er

in d u e trle e ,

of

w ith

th e G l o t e ;
in

the

P u lley
wa

h ave

the w h o le

year ovsr

the

"b r e a k a *

lan ds,

In h i g h e t a t e

of

and n u a e r o u e

£anke

9 -,0 0 0 .0 0

L ,5 0 0 ,0 0 0 . 0 0

of

cert of
le

over

| 4 9 1 ,0 C 0 .0 0

•

I n d iv i d u a l D e p o e ite


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vofaSt.
r lLouis
oue
Federal Reserve Bank

Factory,

D letilleriee,

wi th a g g r e g a t e C a p i t a l c f
•

hours.

o v e r $ 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 ; a e are

a e have t h r e e l a r g e

in te re e te ;

can

one Wood S p l i t

p o in te

e e lliru

to ta lin g

me

and

s h i p p i n g fcoode a l l
Plow

on

C in c in n a ti

(1 -3 / 4 )

Looee L e a f t o b a c c o M a r k e t

Tobacco E i e t r i c t ,

ed by v e r y

ot

R .H .,

quarter#

one l a r g e

* 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 roundw,

s a a lle r

0.

in Cuba and South A a e r l c a ;

t h e eecond l a r g e e t
E u rk le y

A

C.

* e have one l a r g e C o t t o n l i i l l
U n it e d P t a t e e

£aet

s lic e

done

all

the

through

b u e ir .e e e

fro a

C in cinnati,

theee

and

ae

can

of—

4476

H.

for

no

better

reaecn

other

P le a se

p o in t

ae

a llo w

(2 6 } a l i a s

w ith

th irty -fo u r

8 u rp lu *

end

D e p o e l te

b u sin e ss

(3 4 )

dene

p o in t,
w iu

serve

its

h a vs

th*

a

above,

tor

indeed.
of

ra d iu s

t h e r e a r e tw e n ty

th irty -

e & a lle r

to n n e ,

re p o rtin g :

5 5 6 ,5 0 0 .0 0

t h a t 95 p e r c e n t o f

th ro ugh C i n c i n n a t i ,
if

not s t r c n g s r ,

reeources

ars

is

this

and t h i s

to th<i « h o l e

o f our S t a t e
unsurpassed,

banking,

a p p lie s
o f E astern

and c u r C o u n t r y ,
though

the

d e v e lo p -

in fan cy .

a s l;«

b u s i n e s s ana c o m m e r c i a l s t a n d *
feelings,

any p e r s o r a l
s p le n d i d

the b e s t l o c a t e d

bsn&s

c ity

the l a r g e e t r u a b e r o f banks




a

................................

eay,

h e r Rub T r e v u r y ,

s a m e s tly

to

than

Inconvenient

that w ith in

b a n k s,

fro a a s t r i c t l y

la y in g

s itu a tio n ,

C i n c i n 'a t i

very

the cow in ; s e c t i o n

whoee a l n e r a l

S p e a k lr

interest

.................................. $ 1 ,0 9 6 , 6 0 0 .0 0

ro fite

stron g,

in

in

*:ur

....................................................... 5 , 0 6 8 ,0 0 0 .0 0

is

K en tuc k y ,

he

ie

o f M a y s v ille ,

and we a a y s a f e l y

is

it

to ad d ,

A ggregate c a p it a l

aet t

why

soul^

fiv e

s q u a lly

Sharp

c^r.k e s t a b l i s h e d

R egional
any

C.

we

thing

C in c l n r . a t

and g e o g r a p h i c a l

in

the U n it e d S t a t e e

in t a l e

r e q u e s t your H o n o r a b le B o a rd

tc

se c tio n ,
lo c a te

R e sp e c tfu lly e u b a itts d ,
R. C. S h a r p .

Cfcatraan.

to

and w e

a bank

th ere

4476

"TlTFKEST OF WALTER S .
Tfce

*> e c r .ta r y

r^ ild e rc a

th*» T r . t - . u r y ,

State

your

rum ,

and o c o ^ a t .J o n .
v i l t e r 5?. H«*rki^a,

^ r . B a rk ir*:
o c c u p ii t i c n
<*et*<! in

of

HARKIHF.

i*

tha

that o f

a r A t t o r n e y a t Law,

two banka a h e re I

Tha S e c r e t a r y

of

Preatonburg.

lives and

tha T r a a a u r y :

but

sosj

What a r a

*y p r i n c i p a l
I

a*

in te r-

o th ere.

they,

n a tio n a l

Banks?
U r.

H a r k ln e :

One i a

N a tio n a l

and the o t h e r

I

aa a sto c k h o ld e r

and to e P a i n t a v i l l e
Tha S e c r e t a r y o f

it? a R a t i o n a l

in th a P e i n t e v l l l e

N a t i o n a l Bar.k

town.
Tho

U r.

H arkJre:

T r u a t Coapar.y.
the

I

aa a u t h o r i s e d

Mr. P u c k i s h * *
Waorotary

F a rk ln e :

Treaaury:

A re ytfu a u t h o r i s e d .

of

to a p p e a r f o r

hsa a p p e a r e d f o r

the

Traaaury:

W ith r e a p e c t tc

What

V r . H a r k in s :




of

ia

your

view ?

the e s t a b l i s h m e n t o f a

the T rc**au ry :

U r"3u e e t i o n a b l y

t h c e e in o u r

th e o t h e r s .

PegienaJi Bank i n C i n c i n n a t i ?
The S e c r e t a r y

to

theai a l l ?

appear here f o r
H r.

8tata«

K en tu ck y,

The Bank J o e e p h ln e a t P r e j t o n b u r g ,
E- r * .

is

Tea,

C in c in n a ti.

1*

447?

W a lt e r

Tha S e c r e t a r y
in

of

S. H a r k in s .

the T r t M u r y :

T h ve a second and third on#*

Ih e S e c re ta ry o f

th s

T reasury:

Hr. H a r k i n s : Th# f i r s t
woul i b j

w »U ir.f

•h c -li

have
Mr.

ar#

#uch t h a t ,

o f 8tat#

l&rge

.1 c o a l

*•*<§*##

f o r e we t h i r k
thay

w ould

aerv#



us

b-ttter

of

through

b *e q u i

th i#

in

Th at

le

that

tak#

all

Th# t h i r d

all,

up t h e

that

oil

country
and

u n i# # # y o u

between

R egional

i n w ith

com*

those

Reserve

the
th#
two

I

liv e

C in rcln nati.

in

The

th#

of

where

c o n sist#

Into

should

tieie

region

t im f c e r .

C in cin n ati

d istan t
a

to

and c o m m e r c i a l ,

;le a r s n o *:s

than

a i# tric t.

V irg in ia .

weivt

d istrict,

the

^«.k#e C l n o i n n a t i

to e a y .

ftnarcial

oo«l

it

lo g ic

a t w hloh a R e g i o n a l R e e e r v e Bar.k

I *111 e a y

B atu m i resource
a

p rid e ,

th# T r # ^ a u r y .

T d«? r o t

but

cur t t ^ l r .e s i,

of
el##

HarMne:

C c ^ m it * # # ,

The

end o u r b u s in # # # r # l a t i o n #

t# Richmond,

s o * st h in e

by 8 t a t e p r i d e ,
to e

h# # c < t a lll# h # d f o r a l l

Th# S e c r e t a r y

in flu e n c sa

jivl C i n c i n n a t i

the p l i M

c h o l c # v# have

on#,

hut

th # H t t t r

ur i - # # t i r o e b l y

You w ig h t n«.as them.

# # co n d ,

L c u te v ille ,

of toe # i t u # t i o r

U

ch o ic e

t h i * 4 t e t .r lc t T

*(r. HarVinn:

cf

Rave you a teccn u

the * a i n
m arket

northwest,
sm s

way,

po in ts

Bank a t

any

for
there­
and

and
other

U

4475

W a lte r S.

rc in l.

Tfjere a r a

H a rk in s ,

oth ar r e a p e r s ,

but

it

la n e t n ecessary

to

m en tio n

PTATFHEWT OF C .
***• ^ a c r e t a r y
re e id e n c e

of

E .F B O S T ,

tha T r e a a u r y '

A th e n e ,

A la .

W i l l you s t a t e

y ou r na&e,

and o c c u p a t i o n .

k r » F r o a t s C. E. Front, A tbara, A l a .
Tha S e c r e t a r y

of

th e T r e a a u r y .

Tou a r e

on t h e

L o u ie v illa

S■ V a a h v i l l e R a i l r o a d .
Mr * F r o e t : T e a ,

a ir.

Tha P e c r * it a r y o f t h e T r e a a u r y :
Mr.

F roat;

B arker.

Tha S e c r e t a r y
Mr

fo r a ll
Froet:

F roet:

to g e t

in to




the F i r s t

of

th e T r e a a u r y .

R a tio n a l

at

Athene

bo th S t a t e

Banks.

A re you a u t h c r i e e d

to

o f them?
I

The S e c r e t a r y
K r«

What dc ycu r e p r e s e n t ?

banka th ?rg, w hich a r e

The S e c r e t a r y

V r.

o f th e T r e a s u r y :

I represent

Froat:

and ta o o t h - r

ep aak

And y o u r o c c u p a t io n ?

can apeak f o r one o t h e r .
of

the T r e & e u r y :

Which one?

The F a n a e r e 1 £ M e r c h a n t s * .
the C i n c i n n a t i

te rrito ry

It

ia

our d a a ir e

becauee aa a re

on the

4479

C.

£.

Froet

c u t p o e t e o f both He* O r l e a n s end Cir.cifira.tl,
w oul i be our p r e f e r e n c e c ? « r
t h a r e w ould ba

tore c a p i t a l

In a bank

Be* O r l e & n a ,
in t h i a

in Haw O r l e a n a ,

ana C i n c i n n a t i

b jc a u e c wa b e l i e v e

te rrito ry

thsn

w o u l:

ba

Scuta

la a c r e c a p i t a l and f o r t h a t r a a e o n wa a r e

there

and what wa naad

in

tha

fcr

C in c in n a ti.
Tha S t c r n t a r y

of

tha ' r e a s u r y .

W h ic h way a r a

yo ur t r a d e

re la tio n e 7
Jr.

Fro^t:

T h ie way a l t o g e t h e r .

The S e c r e t a r y o f th e T r e a a u r y :

do
Do you/tafcelneee

w ith C in c in n a ti?
Mr.

Froat:

Wot v ery Much,

no a c c o u n t w i t h C i n c i n n a t i a t p r e s e n t .
t^ ro u fh V a a ftv llle ,

B a ltla o re

M r.

Froet:

n o r t h and e o u t h ,
c r c ; n » n h .. i c u l
th e y e a r .
ar.-.i

our b o elncee

then

it

tfcar

better

to

e a c t ana e w e e t .

i t wcul-i bo a l t o g e t h e r

you w ould h a v e d i v e r s i f i e d

ba t a k e r c a r e o f a t d t f f e r e r t e t a g e e o f

theee o t h e r c o * a c




to ay i d e a

bee u * e

Our c o t t o n

taken c * r e o f .

Tou t h in k

r u n n in g n o r t h and so u th

A c c o r d in g

We do

and Wew Y o rk .

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :
have a d l e t r l c t

We keep

b u t our p e o p l e d o .

in the f a l l
11 le #

in

and t o b a c c o

In th e eussaor

th e o t h e r a e a s o n e

c o u ld

be

Fu
£.

Ths S e c r e t a r y

Frost*

o f A & ric u ltu rsz

a d i s t r i c t was s u g g e s t e d
as

ru n rin ^

You d o u b t l e s s

knc*

that

e a s t and « a t t

w it h A t l a r t a

th s c e n t e r .
Wr.

F rcet:

at le a s t

It

so u th t c

put

p a rlc n

1 tio n e t th in k ycu w oul ' f i n ?
would not bs *y

id sa .

ths ls a r. snd tfts f a t

that p r a c t i c a l ;

I t w o u ld b s n o r t h and
together.

If

you w i l l

ths s x y r s s s lo n .
of A g ric u ltu re :

Ths S s c r e t a r v

What w culd

be your s s c o n a

c h o ic e ?
M r.

F rost:

c in ra ti

L o u is v ille .

But

and p r o t s s t a g a i n s t

tsrrito ry .
2 do n o t

H r.

th in k

s itu a tio n

F i r a i r . f h a*

it

it*

feeing put

is

I w ould n o t t e

is

a c i t y we a r s

but a t p r s s e n t

proud o f

p la c e ,

b e c a u s e we need more c a p i t a l ,

E i r a i n ^ h a * can coaaand
The S e c r e t a r y

q u e stio n




Wo,

and t h s y

s ir;

of

th£t,

th*
not—

and has a g r e a t

and a c r e

it

ie a p r o p e r

th an

Have you d i r c u s & e d

th e

in y o u r s e c t i o n ?

T have n o t ,

ic n o t

u rg in g £ irj.ln £ k a a

te rrito ry .

o f A g ric u ltu re :

q u e s t i o n w it h w ary p s o p l e

the Ssw O r l e a n s

I do n o t t h in k

in t h a t

on C i n -

c o n c lu s io n o f

in f a v o r

fo r

F rost:

in t o

a lo g ic a l

fu tu rs

Mr.

to i n s i s t

H a r d in g you h e ard S ;t u r d a y

at a l l .

w ith sta n d in g

1 coae

because

it

is

a ne*.

know a n y t h i n g a b o u t

it

and I do

■U

4461

e.

not

e ith e r.

is

aore

Frost.

I do n o t p r e t e n d

and I do r.ot th in k
q u e stio n .

E.

to 3-now a n y t h in g a b o u t

the o t h e r s do e i t h e r .

It

ie

But what th e f u t u r e h o ld s o u t f o r

than ar.y o f ue c a '

The P e c r e t a r y

it,

a nen

t h is q u e stio n

say.

of A g ric u ltu re :

But you w an t t o g e t

in to

a

stron g d is t r ic t ?
Mr# F r o s t : Ve w an t to g e t
I want to s e e

th e aoney
gooi

I

th rough

in v e s t m e n t ,

t h in k
the

if

it

because

anti secon d i f I do g e t i n t o a

us s u c c e e d ,

stron g d i s t r i c t ,

in to a s tro n g d i s t r i c t

it

ie aore p ro b a b le ,

transow ,

I

but

if

I

throw

t h in k I w c u ld be a a i i n g

would keep o ut p a n i c s .

I have

a

been in

t h e b a n k in g b u s i n e s s £5 y e a r s

and n e v e r p u t on

the l i a i t

but

a lw a y s do t h a t .

I aay n o t n e x t

I

do not ae an t h a t

tla e .

Eut

I w ill

th o se a r e ay v ie w s a ^ o u t

it,

and i f

that i s

yet,

a ll

you want to a s k a e —
Ths S e c r e t a r y
State

the T r e a s u r y :

Do you t h i n k t h e w h o le

o f Alabam a s h o u ld b s a t t a c h e d

Mr. F r o s t :

Frost:

p e r h a p s go

o f the T r s a s u r y :

As f a r ae Montgomery.

d is tric t?

How f a r ?
The s o u t h e r n

p a r t m i^ht

to Isw O r l e a n s .

Ths S e c r e t a r y




to t h i s

Bo*

Ths S s e r e t a r y
H r.

of

of A g r ic u lt u r e : *o u ld not

th at g iv e

a still

I*

4482
C.

E.

Frost

leaner di s tr ic t?

^r.

Frost:

m isfo rtu n e .

I t w o uld bs p r s t t y
If

le a n ,

i t vent e n t ir e ly

bu t t h a t

to the G u l f

Is

it

th e ir

w o uld seem

t c me much b e t t e r .
The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :
u e e ira b ls

Do you t h in k

to have a d i s t r i c t d c * n t h e r e s i t h

it

so u ld

be

lies O r l e a n s

ae a c e n t e r ?
H r.
*ae

Frost:

I do n o t .

&oin& t o I n s i s t

But I

on i t

su p po sed t h ^ t Sew O r l e a n s

and p r o b a b l y s o u l d

Ths S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :

gst

A good many h * v e

it.
In siste d

on i t .
Ths S e c r e t a r y o f
snat

th e y s i l l

M r. F r o s t :

of

as

I

t h in k

th s s l i c s

G e o rg ia ,

th ro u g h

c o n stitu te



but i t

te rrito ry

in ­

it

here,
today,

w o u ld o c c u r

the p a r t
seems

to

to me t h a t

and Alabam a o u gh t to be I n c l u d e d c l e a r

From the Lakes
the m id d le

th is

th is

you have been d i s c u s s i n g

S e o rg ia

the* ~G u l l .

rig h t

th ro u g h

a p a r t o f osiddle T e n n e s s e e and

ms to bs most p r a c t i c a b l e ,

to

i e more a q u e s t i o n o f

t h e s e p e o p l e have o u t l i n e d

the t e r r i t o r y

M is sis sip p i,

It

gst.

c l u d i n g A labam a,
K en tu c k y ,

the T r e a e u r y :

of

te rrito ry .

to

the G u l f w o u ld be my i d e a ,

the U n it e d S t a t e s

o u g h t to

That

I do not

is

m y iv ie w .

pre-

£.

ten i
Eut

to
if

Froet

knee e v e r y t h i n g ,
you co u ld

Montgomery,
p u t thee

cu t

but t h a t

tha S t a t e

In w i t h Mew C r l e a n e ,
of

w h o le e t a t e would be
F rost;
th ere

Tee.

an other

te rrito ry ,

Suppose we d i d n o t h&ve a

y ou r i d e a e o u ld

be t h a t the

in t h ie d i s t r i c t ?

e o u ld much p r e f e r

in M o b ile .

it.

L o u is ia n a .

In c o rp o rate d
I

v ie w o f

o f Alabama in two down to

the T r e a e u r y :

R e s e r v e Bank a t Sew O r l e a n e ,

rig h t

Just »y

and you heve to e e t a b l i e h

The S e c r e t a r y

*lr.

le

That wo u l d

it,

t e ay

ever

if

I wae

id e a about

it.

4

°TATK¥CTT OF A.
The S e c r e t a r y

of

the T r e a s u r y :

E.

JAC&SOM.

State

your n a x e,

re sid e n c e

and o c c u p a t io n ?
Mr.
of

Jackeon:

A.

E.

Jackson,

D ecatu r,

A lab a m a,

C a sh ie r

the C i t y M o t io n a l and P r e s i d e n t o f th e FI r e t n a t i o n a l

£ank a t H a r t e e l l ,
The S e c r e t a r y
Mr.

Jackeon:

A labam a.

of
I

th e T r e a e u r y .

re p re een t tboth

What do you r e p r e e e n t ?
th o se b a r k s

and th s

C e n t r a l M o t io n a l o f Mew D e c a t u r .
The S e c r e t a r y

of

the T r e a s u r y :

what a r e

your id e a s a b o u t

tfcle d i s t r i c t ?
M r.



Jackeon:

I

t h i n k ws sh o u ld

be)>on& to C i n c i n n a t i ,

!■«

4484
C.

E.

Frost.

C e r t a i n l y we do no t * a n t to b e l o n g to A t la n t a , o r Hew O r l e a n s ,
Tie a re

b e c a u s e we want aoney down t h e r e .

in

s t o c k a a r k e t a t an i n t e r i o r p o i n t
an J we do no t

ti. ink we c o u ld be

taken

the

second

the S t a t e
care

la rg e s t

of A la b a a a ,

o f a t Hew O r l e a n s

o r A tla n ta .
of

The S e c r e t a r y

ness s o r t w ith C in c in n a t i
Ur.

Jaokson:

Jackson:

Tenneeeee;

the c o u r s e

o f your b u e l -

than w i t h A t l a n t a or Few O r le a n s ?

Tee.

The S e c r e t a r y
M r.

Is

the T r e a s u r y :

of
le

that

c.o s o r e

is

the s o l l c l * 4 t l o n
The S e c r e t a r y

Tou do

the T r e a s u r y .
b u sin e ss

our r e a l p o i n t ,

sore

business

tn cr|

o f c o u r s e * itfc B & s h v l l l e ,
but we c«*ae up h e r e

at

o f—
of

the T r e a s u r y :

W h ere do y c u keep y ou r

reeerves?
Mr. J a c k s o r :

With Hew T o rk .

The S e c r e t a r y o f
th e s o l i c i t a t i o n
Mr. J a c k s o n :
The S e c r e t a r y

the T r e a e u r y :

Tou say you cams up a t

o f whoa?

The W a s h * i l l s

C l e a r i n g H ouse.

o f A g r i c u l t u r e : Tou want to go w it h ttaah-

v llle ?
Mr. Jac s o n :

Tee.

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :



W h e re v e r l a s h v i l l e

goes?

4466

A.

Mr. J«*ckscn:
The S e c r e t a r y
as

th o se
U r.

£•

Jackton

Y ea,

of A ^ rlc u lt u r«:

ju u t * i v e r

J tek tm i:

Tho S e c r e t a r y

tlr«

ae to

Your re&sone

the s t r e n g t h

P ra c tic a lly ,

so,

o f A g ric u ltu re :

yes,

of

are

tho s a a e

the d i s t r i c t ?

a ir.

A n y th in g

e lse

you d e s i r e

to

add?

Ur • J a c k s o n :

V o,

Too Sac r o t a r y

of

s ir.
tha T r a a a u r y :

Mr.

Rowe,

have you any one

e lasT

Mrm H o * e :

Tha E r . o x v i l l e C l e a r i n g Kouaa haa r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s

hara n o *.
Tha S e c r e t a r y
V&o

of

tha T r a a a u r y :

Va m i l l

h e a r from k t o x v i l l a *

re p re een te K n o x v ille ?

Ur

J oh rator:

I do*

8TATEVFVT OF H. M. JOHITCTOK *

Tne S a c r a t a r y o f tha T r a a a u r y :
re sid e n c e
Ur*

House

Tha S e c r e t a r y
p a rtic u la rly ?



y ou r ne4.e,

and o c c u p a t io n ?

Johnston:

C le a rin g

You c a y a t a t a

H*

U*

Johnston;

President

of

th e J t r o x v il la

A sso c ia tio n .
cf

ths T r e a s u r y :

V h a t bank do you r e p r e s e n t

4486

H. II. J o h n sto n

*r • John*to r:

U nion W a t i o n a l

TL t S e c r e t a r y or

the T r a a a u r y :

E«r-k.

H *ve yo u c r « u M t i i l «

iroi

y o u r C l e- r in g R e u se?
tlr. J o h n sto n :
w h ic h

I

Our C l e a r i n g

t h in k was read

The S e c r e t a r y

of

Ho uee p a s s e d

a resolution

this c c r r i n g .

the T r e a a u r y :

Yee,

it was

re ad t h i s

cornin*.
54r. J o h n s t o n :

At w h ic h

ths b ank a

unanim ously

endorasd

C in c in n a ti•
Ths S s c r s t a r y
s o lic ite d

of

Was t h a t

the T r e a s u r y :

expression

in any p a r t i c u l a r way?

Mr. John, t o n :

Wo*

Ths S s c r s t a r y oi

Or was

the T r e a s u r y :

a

it

v o lu n ta ry

U r.

J o h n s to n :

I t was v o l u n t a r y .

com m ittee h a i v i s i t e d

e x p la n a tio n o f

t& at r e s o l u t i o n ,

had com m ittees f r o s
and I
fe e l

t h in k
that

Knoxville.

A tla n ta ,

tfe«y s h o u ld
but

b e f o r e any

to

th a t since

from

Louisville

e n d o rs e A t l a n t a ,

the C l e a r i n g

ca a e

1 *ant

t h a t one o r two m s a b e rs o f

p a rtic u la rly ,

and from R1

the C l s a r l n g

one

House

t h a t 1 know o f

House r e s o l u t i o n

fcssr. r e e e l n l s d and t h e r e haa b e s r



It

no q u e s t i o n

has n o t
in re g a rd

—

e x p re ssio n ?

448?

U.

to

i*,

-w^ct I t

waa u n an iao u s a t

The S e c r e t a r y

Banka keep t n t i r
Mr*

Johnston.

the

o f the T r e a s u r y :

tia e •
t h e r e do

the K n e x v il l e

reeerves?

W e l l , ths l a r g e r p a r t of t h e i r r e s e r v e l a
**
i n le w York I jrreeu&e.
And o u t s i d e o f t h a t , L o u i s ­

Jcfcnston:

c a rrie d

C i n c i n n a t i and B a lt i m o r e you w i g h t s a y w o uld he th e

v ille ,

p r i n c i p a l ones*
The S e c r e t a r y o f
d istrib u te d
Mr.
wae

Mr. J o h n s t o n :

la

I

tlse ?

s h o u ld

the T r a a s u r y :

say p c e s l b l y
T hat

is

Tee.

The t r e n d o f b u a i n e a a

frc a

p le a e a n t,

and p o e e i b l y

in C in c in n a ti

la rg e r

se rv ic e

in K r o x w i l l s

and o f

between the o f f l c l a l e

and o u r t e r r i t o r y .



the banka

than In any o t h e r c i t y ,

c o n v s n ie n t w a l l

that s x is t

o ur a e c t i o n

tow ard C i n c i n n a t i and a lw a y a has b e e n .
b etw een o ur a e c t i o n and C i n c i n n a t i

th s

30 p e r c e r t .

the next l a r g e s t

re la tio n e

of

it

ItT

Johnston:

la rg e ly

the p r e s e n t
V e il,

The S e c r e t a r y o f

Mr.

ia

s h o u ld aay 60 p e r c e n t o f t h e r e s e r v e

I

in la w York a t

la

I n w hat p e r c e n t a g e

betw een th o ae p o i n t s ?

J c h n a to n :

p o in t,

the T r e a a u r y :

have b e e n v a r y
are rep reaen ted
on a c c o u n t

th e p l e a e a n t

o f th e banka

The

re la tio n e

in C i n c i n n a t i

* *

*4 o c

H. 14. J o h n s t o n

The S e c r e t a r y
eeoo na c h o ic e

Mr.

of

What w o u ld K n o x v i l l e ' s

bt?

J o h n s to n :

u iftC u iiin ^

the T r e a e u r y :

W e ll,

I h ve been t r y i n g

to

the s e t t e r w i t h o u r bank p e o p l e ,

they « o u l i f e e l A t la n t a ,
The S e c r e t a r y

of

M r. J o h n sto n :

fre e

n e v e r h e ard one y e t ,

I

t h in k

and w ould l i k e

I

have

them v e r y c l o s e l y ,
fr o r . C i n c i n n a t i

v e r y much—

reasons

Mr. Jc & n sto n :

From s e n t i m e n t a l more

to be s s r v e d

from A t l a n t a ?

Tee*

m The S e c r e t a r y o f
and l o o k i n g a t

they mould a l l .

to be s e r v e d

The S e c r e t a r y o f th e T r e a s u r y :
ti an p r a c t i c a l

sta n d p o in t.

P h ila n th ro p ic ?

and I have q u e s t i o n e d

ea y bu t s h a t they s o u l d p r e f e r

softer

that p o ss ib ly

a p h ila n th ro p ic

the T r e a e u r y :

L a rg e ly ,

th in x ,

it

the T r e a s u r y :

D is m is s in g

mere from the s t a n d p o i n t o f

v h e r e do you t h in k K n o x v i l l s w ould be b e s t
wae n o t a t t a c h e d

to t h i s

d is tric t,

s e n t im e n t
sccn o m ic s

ssrved,

£ & st T e n n e s s e e

if

she

in c lu d in g

K n o x v ille ?
U r.

John *ton:

If

she was n o t a t t a c h e d

to t h e C i n c i n n a t i

d istric t?
The S e c r e t a r y
ta c h e d



to

th is

c f th e T r e a s u r y :
p ro p o se d d i s t r i c t ,

Tee,

if

sh e wae n o t

but e a s tw a rd .

at­

4469
H.

I

U r . Johnston:

«e ll

p o s s i b l y Richmond.

of the T r s a s u r y :

T&e S s c r s t a r y

d r , Johns tor.:

of

Mr. Jcfc r * t c n :

Yes,

d iffe re n c e

The S e c r e t a r y
b e r .t ,

would

Mr.

it

ths

the T r s a s u r y :
fro a

t h e se

th s

three

th s T r s a s u r y :

n ot.

If

you d id

trsn d

Is a l l

b.*s l a i d

out,

on a c c o u n t o f t h s f a c t
not
thet

the sasis a t

In terests
are

in e v e r y

is

as

The S e c r e t a r y

of

I understand

lik e

it

seess

of

to c e ,

the w o r d .

and X f e e l
that C in d is tric t

the d i s t r i c t

ars

The d i s t r i c t

o u£ h t to be s e l f And o u r

and o u r t r u c k i n g

t im b e r
in te re sts

Our c o n n e c t io n s w i t h

in C i n c i n n a t i .

and one p o s s i b l y

the Treasury:

b u t b e lo w

a very d e s i r a b l e

s s a s o n o f th e y e a r .

t h i s way a l t o c e t h e r .

havs A t la n t a accounts




sees*

senss o f

a lso st e n tirs ly

ab o v e Knox­

to w a rd s R lchaon ti,

t h a t th s * an t a

out,

bs tne n a t u r a l

to w a rd s C i n c i n n a t i ,

and c c a l and g a r b l e

la rg e ly

b an k s a r s

it

the s a s e

thsy havs l a i d

•u s t& lrln s

That w ould

n o t cosse to C i n c i n n a t i ?

t h a t on a c c o u n t o f the d i s t r i c t
cm n atl

t h e r e w o u ld be v e r y

You s i g h t s a y t h a t 60 a l l s s

trsn d o f b u sin ess

th at p o in t

Or E a l t i s o r e ?

in s e r v i c e .

of

J o h n 't o r .:

v ille

Or W a sh in gto n ?

¥- £-

Tr.s S e c r e t a r y

little

If. Jchrr,ter

ths

We h a vs a fs w

i n R ic h e o n d .

Why do you k es p s u c h a

tnat

4490
H.

la rg e
Mr.

M. Jo h n s t o n

p a r t o f y ou r r e ila rv a
Johruster.:

ir

le u

York?

* e fcs.vc ueed Kew York l a r g e l y

fo r d la -

c c u n tin g .
The S a c r a t a r y

of

tho T r a a s u r y :

Exchange p u r p o e e e and d i e -

c o u n ts?
H r.

J o h n sto n :

T «* # e s p e c ia lly

The S a c r a t a r y o f
exchanges

between

exchange.

tha T r a a a u r y :

W ith

theee fle e e r v e Eanke

t h a t w o uld d i s a p p e a r ,

would

it

tha p a r r i n & o f
,

.the n e c e a e i t y

not?

U r.

J o h n a tc n : I n a e e n a e , y e a , a i r .
I t h in , tu la ,
who
ban ka/are
n o t s s a b e r e o f the R e g i o n a l Bank, auch aa
S tate

fo r

Banks and T r u s t C o * p a n i e e ,

on a c c o u n t o f

wa have had w it h o u r corree^on cser t e ,

that

the c e n n e c t i o n i

e s p e c ia lly

t h ro u g h th a
s

C in c in n a ti d i s t r i c t ,

wa w ould p o e e i b l y

trioee sxch a n g ea b a t t e r
ro u tin g

to

to o a n a le

eome o t h e r p a r t a w here

to

o f A g ric u ltu re :

F a irly

The S e c r e t a r y

of




they a r e n o t a c c u e t o a e d

You a r s

banks.
la a ilia r

w it n

the

the south?

v:r. J c h r s t o n :

e u ^ g e e tlo n

to h a n d le

to ch an ge o u r g e n e r a l

th eee e x c h a n g e s froat n o n - a ^ k e r

The S e c r e t a r y
e e c tlo r

than wa w ould

ba a b l e

that

ao.

A g ric u ltu re :

the d i a t r l c t

Wfrat do you t h in k o f

ought

th e

to be e x t e n d e d s o u th w a rd

IT

4491

H. M. J o h n sto n .

to i n c l u d e p a r t o f A i rbnjz& an1 M i e s i e ^ i p p i T
M r,

1 to n o t e e e why & p a r t o f AlabajR ard i l i a a ~

J hnaton:

c o u ld n e t b « t e n r e l t I v i r . t a g e c u d l y .
I n what u r t u li t o e a i f a s U g i

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e s
c o rsle t?
U r.

J c hn etcn *

l i a t r i o t b ein g

W a ll l a r g e l y

i n p c i n t a © f th e w a n t * o f t h e

ilv e re ifie l.

The S e c r e t a r y

o f A g ric u ltu re :

T h at l e

a ll,

t h a n * y ou .

Doee any &ae e l s e w iah t o ape&A f o r K n o & v i li e ?
M r. Meweg

F a i n t P I e a e a n t , W eat V i r g i n i a i n h a r e .

The S e c r e t a r y

e f A ^ rle u ltu re :

We w i l l h e »r fro ia P o i n t

P le a a & n t .
STATEXOTTT OP C. C .
The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r l c i i l t u r e s
Ur*

Bowyer:

Bcwyers

o f A g ric u ltu re s

W here l e

e f A g ric u ltu re s
We e r a ST v i l e e

Ie




Bowyer:

P o in t P le a sa n t?

I

re^reeen t

it

abcre h ere.

n e a r P a r * e r a burg?

e c a lh e f P ar * e r eb u rg •

The S e c r e t a r y © f th e T r a a a u r y :
M r.

y o u r na&eT

We a r e on t h e O U o H i r e r £04 i s l i e a

The S e o r e t a r y
M r* l o w y e r t

What i e

C. C. B ow yer, P o i n t P l e & e a n t , W eet Y i r g l r i a .

The S e c r e t a r y
M r.

BOWTER.

Whoa do ycu r e ^ r c a e n t ?

th e P o i n t P l e a s a n t n a t i o n a l B a n * .

^

C. C. Sawyer.

the P t .

P le a e & n t T r u « t

Bar k* o f which I
The 3 t c r g U r y

448S

\ n i t h e Msrcihanta l a U c m l

aa c^vtahler.
of

tho T r e a s u r y :

What i s

4
your t i f w

o f th is

M ttart
H r.

B e '7 « r :

1 «n ,tlrj

**

ff^Yor C i n o . m - t i r . r y

M m I of our tuaineee la hara.

tu c iu

73 or 80 p«r can*. of c«r

bualntta I au£poea ccmaa to Cincinnati an ! tho buainaee of
o u r mere H ants l a
r . It

it*

la r g e ly here,

and moat o f c u r

exc h a n g ee a r a

C in c in n a ti#

Tha S e c r e t a r y o f

tha T r a a a u r y !

T cur V u a in *«3 i a

aX&oet

w h o l l y w it h C i n c i n n a t i ?
Ur*

B ow yer:

Yea,

Tha S a c r a t a r y
ch o ic e in
M r.
in

th ia

B ow yer:

of

a ir;

a l u o a t w h o lly *

the T r a a a u r y *

U a trlo t
W a ll

ir

If

C ln o lfv r ft t l

111 n o t h a r t a ban*?

wa r e a l l y feawe n c

r a a p o n a a to a n i n q u i r y

fre & y o u r o f f i c e

tha f i r * * t ,

aeconl a«1

thirl

W

aaoon 1 & n l

Baltim ore

a h ln g to B

Uh? t w ool 1 h a y ^ u r a e c o n t

ohc i c e ,

Tha S3~r«t ry -f the Tra- 4ur; i

j sc sx> I c h i c a ,
aw M le

ago

aa

wa e » T a C i n c i n n a t i

t ir

but
to

first,

.

That

as

all,

thanc y< u.

la thar-s any one slaat
fcr.
They

Rc « :
U




We v Te Mr* We ^h c f Went V i r g i n i a

JJrt ^ a « a to hnve c o m

in

yet*

K r.

jr*i U r .

Brc <n fr e e .

S w c^e.

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4493

3 , r i.n g f ia l d

tr1

i jr.

W asxer

’roit C e n t e r v i l l e

OF

STATO^SET

The 8 sc r o t a r y

o f ths Treeaurys

J.

B.

tire I e r a .

W ALKED.

State

ycur nute,

r e e l 1t n o t

a n i o c c u p a t io n ?
Mr*

r^*ksr:

Ths S e c r e t a r y
i r,

W a lk e r :

J.

B.

W a lk e r,

Cert a m

o f ths T reaaury:

W a lk e r s

Ths S e c r e t a r y

Tennessee.

W h ere i s

C u n td n rU lo t

Ml i I s T e n n e s s e e .

Ths S so r o t a r y c f t h s T r e a s u r y !
Ur*

lie,

F ifty * lie s

B e a r what p c i n t ?

west o f S a s h Y ille .

o f ths T reasu ry !

W hnt d o y o u r e p r e s e n t ?

»

M r. W a l k e r :
.•ra c im lly

The f i r a t

I & l i c n & l Bank, o f C w t e r U i i e

and two o t h e r banks by * r oxy.

The S e c r e t a r y e f t h e T r e a s u r y s

What l e

ths

ie s lra e f

the

fcenk* i n y o u r ooxsasftnlty?
M r.

Walk o r j

W e ll

tho n a tio n a l

i n t e r e s t s and o u r s a r e

identical.

The b a i u # e f M i i i l e T e n n e s s e e a n i B a a h v i l l e a r e

ilentical*

P ersonal

y I

p r e fe r C in c in n a ti,

whr t Wa s h r i l l e w a n t s , t u t
it

is

tc

g re a tly




t 'i e l r

internet,

to o u r i n t e r e s t

e s p e c ia lly
w

I

t in k

re g a rd le ss

so s i n c e
it

is.

to h a r e C i n c i n n a t i

I

they

of

tK ln k

VHlnk. i t

is

aa our Beserw e

4404

-

The 8 « c r a t H r y

o f th e T re & a u ry :

Klabtuea a h c u l 1 be i n c l u d e 1 I n
lir* V ^ lk e r s

I

It

your v ie w th e t

the i l a t r l c t ?

e h o u ld n o t o b j e c t

Th# S e c r e t r y o f the T r e ^ u r y s
I

is

to i t .
W ould you thin*. i t

d o o lra b le T
Mr* W a lk e r s

Tea*

I

t h in k I t

w ould be*

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :
a

U a tric t

i t h tfe su h ie a a

U r * W a lk e rs

the c e n t a r *

T ee *

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e s
U r * W a lk e rs

Uettphie r e p r e a e n t e i u e w i t h

S©# * i r *

W c u ld y ou t h i n k H u t t w le e ?

t h e r e ie too nuoh r e t i n k i n

the

Sou th f a r a B e a e r r e Bar*.*
The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e s
U r * W a lk e rs

Too c.uch what?

R e i in k .

The S e c r e t a r y o f t h e T r o a a u r y s
a r by th e s o l i c i t a t i o n

Mr* Walkers
W e ll,

Have y en a p p e a r e d r o l u n t

o f C in c in n a ti?

I * * e not e clic lted by Cincinnati at all*

I i is;ht H^?e h#» l e 1 O t t e r .

I

have had «

c o r r e a , endenue

h a r e f o r y o a r e on1 yen r e &nd Have b e e n i d e n t i f i e d
f o r y e a re a n l yenre*
16 9 3, and I
eo t c t




.

riiy

An I by th e w ay ,

C i n e —v

ti

> «n

e

th e n

d u r i n g th o p a n i c o f

a a a young nan t o h » ? e g o n e t h r o u g h
-

w ith

th ree p a n ic # ,

c o u l l not have g o tte n

J.

it

e ls e here.

4495

B. W arier.

am a st ro n g b e l i e v e r

I

in

the f i n a n c i a l

s t r e ^ f th c f C i n c i n n a t i .
The S c o r e t r y c f
b u sin e ss la r g e ly
Mr.
a fa ir

W xlk or:

the T r e a s u r y :

Is

the c o u rse o f your

w ith C i n c i n n a t i ?

No,

s ir;

it

is

iiv ile d

c c n siie r a b ly .

We k ee p

b a l a n c e h e r e w it h o u r c o r r a a , o a d e n t e .

The S e c r e t a r y

o f th e T r e a s u r y :

How coach o f y o u r r e a s r r e *

l o ycu keep here?
M r. W a lk e r :
The S e c r e t a r y

About o n e - f o u r t h .
cf

th e T r e a e u r y :

Does t h a t r e p r e s e n t n c r t A l

b u sin ess?
Mr.

W »x*er:

Yea,

n o rm al.

The S e c r e t a r y o f th e T r e a e u r y :
in te re st

r a t e a n i oth er f a c i l i t i e s

Mr. W a lk e r :

it

in d u c e d by th e

g iv e n ?

W e ll our p re s e n t account l e

a l t h o u g h we c h e c k on i t
it

Or i s

whenever i t

la

somewhat ^ u i e t ,

c o n v en ien t.

Wo k ee p

ae a ia a t t e r o f exchange a n i b u s i n e s s f a c i l i t i e s .
Tho S e c r e t a r y
Mr. W a lk e r :
The S e c r e t a r y
Mr.

W a lk sr:

Tho S e c r e t a r y




of

th e T r e a s u r y :

What i s

your

a e c c n i c h o ic e ?

N a s h v ille .
of

th e T r e a s u r y :

Hot i n t h i s

Have you a t h i r d *

U stric t,

o f A g ric u ltu re :

tho way i t

Of sny o t h e r

is

la i 1 o ff.

lis tric t?

.4 9 0
J.

Th# S e c r e t a r y

tf

E.

‘'ii

er*

V ie Tr<y* iu ry :

Any e t h a r

31s t r i c t

ycu

h i r e i n Lolnd t h a t wcul 1 b e # r » c U c - W f a n i c c r t f o n : w i t h
Ib itX tflf
kr»

~ mi iter:

trio te

I

j3 A t

r

jr

If

I w re

s till*

I

to

aucgeat,

I

w c u ll »a k e

fur a b e l i e r c r i n

th e f a t

the

ia —

fry in g

the

1 t in k we ought to g o e l e a r t.crca<j th s c o u r t r y *

Z t h in k n c r t b a n i e a s t w h ere » o n e y l e
t im tl

wlt>* t v e scu tH a n '

I w h e re th e y

e e t trhore the is n ry i

t h e r e a c u r o e e e&d ra w n l t r U

T he 8 e c r e t r jr y c f A g r i c u l t u r e s
aad that l e

about a l l

Mr* H l k i r t

M t

M -a l e s l

I

j

n,

.

Tou c o u l i t a k e l U c h l g a n ,

you o c u l 5 ex to n

i e about a l l *

th a n d s o u th *

Bvt I

4 1 h t even go to Hew O r l e a n e p o e a i b l y ,
deal o f i t *

e- ay oug)&t to be

ik t h e l i n e

but 1 lo u b t

the wle-»

th i n k i t a i g h t go a c r o e e AJabarm a n i G e o r g i a and

.i.

T ie S e c r e t a r y

o f A* r l w u l t u r e :

In

t h a t cntae

you

t v ou£ht wh^t t. y cu :*i£ht <ic w it h Ho* Orle^m a?
U r.

W a lk e r:

W e ll no# a i r *

I

aa 1 e a rin g

that

to you

Itn tlM B *
T e S e c re t a r y o f the T re a e u ry :
th e

« r t bleat

1r.



” n ix a r:

o r e c:
Ho.

.iic a t e
I

*rill

,

te il

Tom do n e t

r

o y< u?
you vrhat I

t> *r.k ab u t i t .

I.

4487

I

tvinfc i t

I

l o no t tM n lt I t

to f o t i f

ought to b e b a l a n c e 1 up a a n e a r a e p o s s i b l e *
asounte tc

eo c u c h ,

t h e d i s t a n c e you h a v e

th e go o i s a r o t h e r e when y<u g o t

th ere,

t h i n k t h e M a t t e r e f bran ch banka — * t h e r e l e
on them a n i they w i l l come i n a t t h e r i g h t

STAraraiT or jr. w*
The S e c r e t a r y

o f th o T r w a u r y t

and I

no r e s t r i c t i o n

t ie * an i ila c e .

brow

»:

S t a t e y o u r n&aie*

r e e l lessee

a n i o c c u p a tio n ?
Mr*

Browns

S p rin g fie ld ,

J . W. B rc a n ,
Tean eeo ee*

The S e c r e t a r y

Hr* Brown:

S j r r i n g f i e l l W a t l c n a l BanJt#

o f th e T r e a a u r y *

Where i e

that?

Abcut 30 a ile e frttt Jfoehville, Tenneeaee,

between laahvi11e an! Guthrie* Kentucky*
The S e c r e t a r y o f t h e T r e a e u r y j
Mr*

Browns

T e S p r i n g f i e l d H ^ t i o n ^ l Bank.

The S e c r e t a r y o f

U r. Brown:

th e T r e a s u r y :

Brown:

H o* i n r g e a ban x l a

W * l l * • havo $ 6 0 ,0 0 0 a ^ i t a i

«ur. l u i u V i r i ' e !
The S e c r e t a r y

http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/
Federal Reserve
1 Bank of St. Louis

O nly?

Tee.

T h « S*ot etstry o/ t h * T r a * * u r y :
U r.

Who* do you r e p r e s e n t ?

it?

a n i $130*000

p ro fite .

o f th e T r e a s u r y *

Wh?t i e

y c u r v ie w a b o u t

If

*498
J . W. Brown.

this anttor?
Mr. Bream;

Vc ore in favor of C in c in n ati*

V « think i t - i t

a setter b * *mce I t-HT"! tory.
Tha S t c r e t r y o f t h » T r e ^ a u r y j

T>**t i s

on u n s o l i c i t e d

p rtfc r«n c «t
M r.
fitd 4

Brown:

T o*.

Only tha Hashville C l a a r i r # Hcua« i n -

ua u£ h e r e .

Tha S e c r e t a r y
C in c in n a ti,

o f tha T raaau ry*

whitt o t h e r o i t y

If

in t h l a

you i i i
U ttric t

not have
» c u l 4 you p r t -

f a r n e x t?
M r.
in i

B ream

Wa p r e f e r B a s h v i l l e

firs t

and th a n C i n c i n n a t i

S t. L c u ia .

Tha S « c r a t
M r.

Brovmi

ry c f tha T r e a e u r y *
W a ll

Tha S a c r a t a r y
I Ho a p i t a b ! a :
M r. Brownt
guae# i t

Boa about Louisville?

that * c u l 1 b a alrig h t.

o f Agricultural

Two other c l t l a a h t ? « basm

Chattanooga*—
V a i l wa lo n o t h a v e nach b u e l r e e *

w c u ld s e r v e ua a b o u t a a w a l l ,

that * * y .

but cu r b u s in e s s i a

t> i a way.
Tha S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :
M r.
fla w

Brcvmj

T crk.




Our b u a ln a a o

tra n ia

A n l haw a b o u t Ma& h i s ?

tetrarla Cincinnati ani

I

44&9
J.

Th# 8 e o r e t ^ r y o f

B . W alk er.

th # T re a a u ry ?

Boft lauch r e s e r r e

ie ycu

k ##p h e re?
U r.

B ro w n :

w#

Th# S e c r e t a r y

!c n o t do any b u s i n e s s h e r e .
of

th e T r e a s u r y !

Tou do bus in # # # w i t h

la a h fiilc t
Mr* Brown:
T .r*.

Our b u s i n e s s

V# *. e#i

a re ie rr#

in S t.

stathoer t

Th# S e c r e t a r y

cf

t e n i a to w a rd # H a a h T i l l # a n i Hew
L o u is .

or u . w . m i a u

th # T r e a s u r y *

S tate your nso#,

re a ld e n c #

] a n i o ccu p atio n .
U r.

U. ¥ . R en ick * ; d i i a t o w n , O h io ,

H e n ic k ;

t u a n u fa e t u r e r a n i b a n k e r i n c i d e n t a l l y ,
F irst

Ian t

and P r e s i d e n t o f

H m tional Bank o f M i d d le t o n n and r e p r e s e n t

th e

th # 0 g e l*»b jr»

B e m # tt Ba- ing Company, a ^rirat# bank*
The S e c r e t a r y
suburb,

1# i t

M r, R e n ic k :

#f

tb # T r e a s u r y *

ifld U ste w n i #

not?
K ind o f a

suburb,

yea,

Th# S e c r e t r y # f th# T r e a s u r y #
re la tio n s

o n .y 33 i l i e s

Tour b u sin e ss

away,

ani trad#

*xre alxaost a l t o g e t h e r w i t h C i n c i n n a t i T

U r. K en ick s

A lm ost # n t i r # l y . .

Ab u t 85 $ e r c e n t o f c u r

s u r p l u s rc.mrrm* a r e o a r r i # d h e r e ,




sort o f a

none i n C h i c a g o ,

cr a

u

J . W.

B rcw n .

4300

i . W.

▼ •ry l i t t l e

w ith

ona o f t h e banjos, a n i o n ly a *«m X l p e n -

c o ’ t « g e i n He* Tork#

We r e l y <n C i n c i n n a t i

a n i c u r town b e i n g l a r g e l y
1 8 ,0 0 0 p a e l l a ,

a m a n u fa c t u r in g

fa r
town,

our *? y ro lle , j
o f a lv u t

we r e q u i r e n b o v t $&>£,QQO a acerth f o r o u r

p a y r o l l s I n c e a h j and we oan g e t t h a t BAtch itore * : r a n t ^ g s o u s ly

f r o * C in c in n a ti
The Bmmrmt a r j

in

th le
M r.

if

the T r e a e u r y *

H a re ycu a m e a d

c h o ic e

d is tric t?

H e n ic k :

o r CEhicage, we

I

ha 1 not

th u g h t o f a aeocrt 1 c h o i c e ;

Cl e v e l ^ n i

rea ch cue about aa w e l l a a the o t h e r ,

c m

e a c s p t C h ic a g o l e
ne t

than m y o t h e r c i t y *

a little

fu rth e rs

«y

and c u r & a i l e a r e

^ u lt e eo r a p u la r*

The S e c r e t a r y

o

J L r l c u ltu re *

Tcu h a d n o t th o u g h t o f

Coluo-bue?
lir*
»lie r

B e ric k :

I hat net,

axfct I

lo n e t

t h i n k I w c u ld ccn-

it*

The S e c r e t ' r y

c f A^noal U re :

D id you eay y cu w e r e a

* A nuf& c t u r e r ?
Ur*

R e n ic k :

T^e S e c r e t a r y
tn to u tin g
U r.



Tee,

a ir.

o f A g ric u ltu re *

Do you do t ^ a h o f

b u s l n e e a to th e sou th?

R e r lo k *

Tea,

vary l a r g e l y

to

the so u th .

a

lie -

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4501

f?. D. R enick

The S e c r e t a r y
M r.

ft*n ic k :

O r e la n e a r e

of A g ric u ltu re :

Birm ingham, I f a a h v l J l e ,

A tla n ta ,

a n i Wee

tha p r i n c i p a l p o i n t s .

Tha B « o r e U r y
Mr. A * n i c k :

o f the T r e a a u r y :

o f A g ric u ltu re :

an d Alabama p r e t t y
R e n ic k :

What i a

the R ^ n u U c t u r e ?

M a n u fa c tu re o f p a p e r b a g * .

The S e c r e t a r y

M r.

Ho* f a r down do ycu go?

Do you c o v e r M l s s i e e i p p l

w e ll?

V e il

o n ly from the C i n c i n n a t i

cover that t e r r i t o r y .

jo b i e r a ,

who

We c o v e r Alabama f r o s Birmingham a n i

G e o r g i a a n i F l o r i d a and Worth a n i &cuth C a r o l i n a from
A tla n ta ,

and L o v e r M i e e i e e i p p i and L o u i s i a n a and E a s t e r n

T exae from !fe» O r l e a n s .
The S e c r e t a r y

o f the T**eaeury:

But they h a n d le y o u r

products?
M f • R s n ic k :
coses

Tee.

A la rg e

th r o u g h C i n c i n n a t i ,

the

p ercen tage

o f y o u r product

raw s a t e r i a l

and f i n i s h e d

product as w e l l .

STATFUFWT OF £ .
The S e c r e t a r y

o f the T r e a s u r y :

D. TITTOW.
W ill

you s t a t e y c u r n a a e t

r e e l ier.ee an d o c c u p a t io n ?
M r.

F ltto n :

H a m ilt o n ,



O h io .

8.

D. F i t t o n ,

P re s id e n t

F ire t

W a t l c n a l Bank

S.

I).

o f the t r e a s u r y :

Tho 8 0 0 r o t a r y

4602

Fltton

Do you r e p r e e e n t tho

C l e a r i n g HcuooT
M r.

F ltto n :

T oo.

Tho S e c r e t a r y

o f tho T r e a a u r y :

Hava you the

re s o lu tio n ?

Mr.
ani

F ltto n :
Ho I xae a b s e n t and 'p h o n e d the® yooterelay
#
they a a * e d aa t o c o a * a n i r e p r e s e n t them, u n a n i * .o u a ly .

Ths S e o r o t a r y
C in c in n a ti,

I

o f tho T r e a e u r y :

Ycu a r e

In f a v o r o f

preauae?

M r. F l t t o n :

Tee, o i r .

Tho S e c r e t a r y
M r. F l t t o n :

o f tb e T r e a e u r y :

H a tu ra lly ?

Y oo.

Tho S e c r e t a r y

o f the ^ r e a o u r y :

Moot c f y o u r t r a l s

is

hsro?

M r.

F ltto n :

Too.

The S e c r e t a r y
are

la rg e ly

M r.

o f tho T r e a e u r y :

e lth

F ltto n :

Tho S e c r e t a r y

A n i y o u r bank e x c h a n g e s

C in c in n a ti?

Yeo, o i r .
o f th e ^ r e a e u r y :

He* f a r

lo

je

the

H a m ilto n fro si

hero?
M r.

F ltto n :

The S e o r o t a r y
banke



A bout 25 m i l o o .
o f the r r e a o u r y :

i n H a a i lt o n ?

that

v ie *

of a ll

tho

S.

M r,

Fltto n :

0.

4503

F ltto n

Tee.

The £ecret&.ry of the T re a e u ry :

What ie y ou r eeoond choice

within th le d l e t r l c t ae propoeedt
Mr.

j f we were t o have one I e h o u ld eay C h i c a g o .

F ltto n :

The S e o r e t a r y
Mr I F l t t o n :

o f the T r e a e u r y :

C h ic ag o ?

Tee.
o f the T re a e u ry :

The S e o r e t a r y

W ith in t h le

d le trlc t

ex­

c l u d i n g C h ic a g o what s c u l l you eay neatT
M r. F l t t o n :

W e ll I

r a t h e r t h in k

In d la n a p o lie

mould he

n ext.
The S e o r e t a r y
H r.

F ltto n :

oue t o ue ae

o f the T r e a e u r y :

In d la n a p o lle T

Tee.

I n d la t n a p o li e .

The S e c r e t a r y

o f A g rla u lfc tre :

Hoe a b o u t C olunbue?

M r, F l t t o n :

W e l l 1 mould r e g a r d C o lu a b u e an d C l e v e l a n d

a b c u t th e e a a * .

1 w o u ld t h in k C i n c i n n a t i w o u ld be n o r e

e lig ib le

the d l e t r l c t

fo r a l l

C le v e la n d .




t h a n e i t h e r C o lu a b u e

or

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4504

S?ATFK***T OF n. L . BURCH •
Tha S e c r e t a r y
ani

o f tha t r e a s u r y :

State

y c u r na& a# r a a id a n o a

o c c u p a tio n ?

Mr. B urch :

RL, B u r c h # P u b l i s h e r o f Tha M erchant and

M a n u f a c t u r e r and The S o u th e rn fcomanf » M a g a z in e *
Tha S e c r e t a r y
M r. B urch:

T reaeury:

The N a e h v i l l e

The S e c r e t a r y
Mr* B u rc h :

o f the

c f the

Mo, a i r ;

What do you r e p r e e e n t ?

B oard o t T r a d e *

^reaeury:

Have ycu eoae

ee c o n c u r r e d i n the

re e o lu tic n *?

re a c lu tic n a

of

the C l e a r i n g H t u e e .
The S e c r e t a r y

e f tha T r e a a u r y :

What o f f i c i a l

p o e i t i c n have

ycu *1 th the B e a r d o f Trade?
■ r # B u rc h :
preeen t*

1 h a re n o t any o f f i c i a l

p e titio n

ju e t a t

I t«ae P r e s i d e n t and a a nee e x - P r e e l i e n t .

The S e c r e t a r y

o f the T r e a a u r y :

They h a r e

le l e g a t e d y cu

t o a p p e a r h e re?
Mr* B urch :
a b rie f
course

fe e

1 w ill

the

trade

i n c u r p a r t o f the c can t r y ,
read i t *

1 do n o t t h i n k I t

o f the t r e a e u r y :

I have

r e l a t i o n e and tfee

a in u te e .

The S e c r e t a r y



they d e l e g a t e d me t o a p p e a r h e r e *

e t a t e a e n t c o n c e r n in g
o f trade

care t o ,
a

Tee,

Read i t .

and i f
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ycu

ta k e b u t

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R.L.Burtfh

Mr. B urch :
*e

t h in k

tory

it

Aa we a i a h

t o be i n C i n c i n n a t i * e

and p r e e e n t b r i e f l y

b u e i n e a a a n i b ankin g c a r t e r ,
cck

e r c e and b u a in e e ?

V ie e le e lp p l,

to

le

fa c llitia a
o f the

fo r

oth er rsg ic n .

the
to

in

la

tc

fin an c e

ta k in g care
and a s

cf a ll

its e lf,
its

parts

the a e a r e and

the b u e i n e a a

re q u ire a e n ta

i n i e p e n ier.tly o f any
e s s e n tia l,

in c r i e r

o f tha la w may be a t t a i n e d ;
l o c a t o d s h a l l be
f u l l sail

i s a success?

have put a s i d e
c la lp

that

the
S lt h

in te recta

that

strong enough

th a t u n l e s s

ia p e rile d .

th** b a n k in g *n d b u a i n e e e
te rrito ry

l n t e r e e t , and hence

to be i n a region o f

f a r aa p o e a ib la

re a lis in g

a fte r

"F e d e r a l oeaenre

poaaeseee

Vs d eea i t a b s o l u t e l y

i n le r a e d C i n c i n n a t i * *



o f tha

c c u n try ,

a y a t e a a a a v h o le w i l l be

trib u ta ry

ae n c f cur t e r r i t o r y ,

one »h ic h

i n which as a r s

in a l l

v isa ,

o f T e n n s a e e o , K e n tu c k y ,

th e ir beat

o f the

g e n e r a l purposes

re g io n

aystea
ths

that i t

in lu e trie e ,

re g io n ,

t h a t th s

of the e l a t e s

o f the p ru p c a e a

the b e a t I n t e r n e t

d iv e ra ifle d

aa a

cur r e l a t i c n a h i p to th e

the b u s i n e s s

of

c a r e fu l a n a ly s is

Bank L a w *,

our la p c tta n c e

te rri­

Alabam a a n i G e o r g i a .

The c o n c l u s i o n
a

te rrito ry ,

c u r vie#»e a a t o ahat t h a t

p ro p e r to a ta te

s h o u ld b e ,

4505

ths

success
U ie

cf

*md

c f N a s h v il l e and

l o c a l p r id e and have

f o r a F e d e r a l R e s e r v e B an k ,

Sn

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L.

Burch

*

4506

th e b e l i e f and u n l e r a t u n d t h a t the

r e g i o n t»hich i t

serve

r e g i o n a l book c r euch

w i l l be

ao b a l a n c e 1, and i t s

c a p i t a l i z a t i o n and s t r e n g t h t h a t t b e
re g io n ,

a g ric u ltu ra l,

rn a d ily

be accociitc Jated a t a l l

fu lly

re a lis e

in iu a tri.e e

o f tbe

m a n u fa c t u r in g and c o i u c e r c i a l ,

that a

■ u # t be g o v e r n e d by th e

r e g i o n a l bank t c be a e u c c e e e

same la w s ?.nl c o n d i t i o n s ae

w u st have b o th d e p o s i t o r s a n l b o r r o w e r s .
f o r , t h a t the South e l . c u l l b e

in a g e n e ra l

In lia n a ,

r.eet V i r g i n i a ,

*ay,

tc be i n

co m prise

%

it

th erere g io n s

Our r e g i o n

th e e t a tee

Hi » H e an d E a s t e r n Ken­

tu ck y and M id d le and E a s t e r n T e n n e s s e e , a n l
A labam a l y i n g N o rth

ia ,

Te b e l i e v e *

eo d i v i d e d ae

th e re fo re ,

tb o a e

that

composed o f b o th S o u t h e r n and H c r t h e m t e r r i t o r y .

o f O h io ,

way

tim e s,

s u r r o u n d i n g a hank d o in g a o e s a n e r o la l b u f l i n e i ? ,

sh o u ld ,

w ill

o f Montgomery*

T h is

that p o rtio n

w i l l attach

of

th e

o l d e r fioan ufactu rins an d s t r o n g f i n a n c i a l c ©immunities o f
the Worth t o the n e w er m a n u f a c t u r i n g an d a g r i c u l t u r a l
com m unities o f the m id d le S o u t h , w a k in g :ture
•ill

n o t o n ly have heavy d e p c e i t s , b u t s h a t

necessary,
It

is

xa j u s t a s

have demands f o r a c n c y .

u n n ecessary tc

not b u sin sse



t h a t the b a n k s

remind t h l e Committee t h a t i t

r e a s o n s a l o n e s h i c h c a u se

is

the S c u t h t o n e ed

largs

ee

R.

sums o f money from the
its

the

case are

c o n d i t io n #

all

its

a g ricu ltu ral

in d u strie s

i^are

ment of c o n d i t i o n *
to t h e

in g c o u n t r y
thcsti

of th e

Burch

out a l i e

p a rtic u la rly

As

L.

4507

to ca rry

on i t s

in d u *trie s,

r e s u l t i n g from

bu t b e a r i n g

the C i v i l f a r ,

p a r a ly s e d , and an e n tire

on t h e

im p o rtance

in d u s t r ie s

States

is

in

the

when

re ad ju st­

o f 5r<vshville and s u r ro u n d ­

o f the S o u t h ,

of K e n tu c k y ,

and p a r t ic u la r ly

Tennessee,

A la b a m a ,

M i s s i s s i p p i a n d fteorgia - t ra d e moves* S o u t h ,
N a sh v ille

o f a p p r o x im a t e l y

cn

made n e c e s s a r y .

h e a r in g and

mcvas N o r t h .

In d u s tr ie ® ,

a n d b a n k in g

does a w h o l e s a l e a n d m a n u f a c t u r in g b u x in e *

1 1 0 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 a y e a r , m ost o f w hich

t e r r i t o r y So uth

c o n sid sra b le b u s in e s s

of i t ,

*ith

a lth ou g h

it

does a

Southern Kentucky.

Nashvi 1 1 s #a

w h o le s a le h o u s e s fc.nl m a n u f a c t u r in g co n c ern s have sa le sm e n
every

my

of

the

year in

the

territo ry

im m e d ia tely a d j o i n i n g

M e m p h is, A t l a n t a ,

Bing&ngfcam a n d J a c k s o n ,

ly

cities

s p e a k in g

te rrito ry .
save

that

these

The b u l k

comes

North

l i k e w i s e sieves North



of t h ie r b u s in e s s

goods

sell

t o l Z a a h v il l e ;

But g e n e ra l­

re p ese n tativ es
is South

o f a n im m ediate a n d c o n t ig u o u s

The payment f o r tr.e
b a n k in g ,

nevar h ^ /e

M iss.

of them ,

te rr ito ry l y i n ^

South,

and

i n our

t h a t is

Korth.

the

our b a n k in g b u s i n e s s

to w a rd s C i n c i n n a t i ,

As a n e v id e n c e

of

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Burch

4508

th e way In fchioh b u a i n e s * a c r e s Scruth I c a l l
your a tte n tio n
in

the f a c t

t h a t one c f the m agazines which I p u b l i e h ,

u r l e r to g e t d i s t r i b u t i o n

i n Savannah a n i C h a r l e s t o n ,

e x a a p l e , must f i r s t be s h ip p e d t o Y a e h i n ^ t o n , * h i c h
trib u te s

to a l l

W a s h v ille 's

I

c ity ,

it

A tla n tic

aho*n by the f a c t

c a rrie s

s l i s r a b l y sore

n a tu ra lly

isp o sits

th e S o u th e rn c i t l e e
K a e h v ille

if

sore

i te e I f

of

Bouth o f i t *

of b u sin e ss

fo r a

reserve
conany o f

r e g io n a l bank,

deemed a d v i s a b l e ,

e h ic h h a n d le s

A u g u s t and S ep te m b er,

is

ae i t

le

the

s u c c e s s i v e l y whefca,

Ho o t h e r S o u t h e r n c i t y

wh a t

ready f o r h a n d lin g

course

i e an i d e a l o i t y

c o t t o n and t o b a c c o .
Its

e x c e p tio n a lly

out o f town ban k s t h a n l o

than s i g h t b an k s a r s

aIvan tags.

lie -

th a t w ith o u t b e in g a

i n th s

fo r

n aaed a b o v e .

center c f a t e r r it o r y

e o ll

C oaet c i t i e s

p o s i t i o n a s a b a n k in g c e n t e r i s

s t r o n g , as i s

to

pcsessses

th is

h a r v s s t s d and s o l d i n June, J u l y ,

and the monsy d s p o a i t s d i n t h s ban k s

the c o t t o n c r o p ,

*h ich

is

g a t h s r s d an d

i n B ep te m b er, O c t o b e r JVovesber an d December*

The money f o r
h a n d l i n g th s
[ a n d M arch,

crop i s

tobacco c ro p ,

d s p o s lts d

which i s

in

s o ld

its

banks ready

in January,

fo r

February

so t h a t each c r o p f u m i s h s s ao n e y f o r m ovin g th s

s u c c e e d in g crop*



th is

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R.

i s a very la r g e

N a s h v ille
■ere

Burch

4509

of

the O t i c R i v e r ,

p ro lu c te ,

sood-

some

of

cry in g p r o lu c ts ,

ie a ls o a l i v s -s t o c k

N a s h v ills

is

the

t h a n any

city

the®, b e i n g f l o u r K i l l
cotton a n i

fo u n a r y

c e n t e r of i m p o r t a n c e .

o t Ten nessee amounts

bu sin ess

h a v in g

m a n u fa c t u r in g c e n t e r ,

d iv e r e i f i e d itanuf a c t u r i n g i n m t r i e a

? o u th

it

L.

The

p re lu d e ,
liv e -s to c k

to $ 1 7 0 ,0 0 0 ,0 0 0 a y e a r ,

c h ie f liv e -s to c k

c ity

o f the

ani

state.

1f a s h v i l l e 9s m a n u fa c t u r in g p r o l u c t s amount t o $ 4 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0
p e r annum.

N a sh v ille

is

ed u c atio n al

cen eter,

In t h i s

w ith e v e r y
rid e

rec o g n ise d as

St.

is

co nstantly

jt

is

i n any e a s y n i . , h t vs

L o u is , a n i

p r i n c i p a l Southern p o i n t s ,
ham, A t l a n t a ,

g iv in g

it

as

S o u t h 9s g r e a t e s t

say i t

p o r t i o n o f the S o u t h .

ol C in c in n a ti,

the

In d ia n a p o lis

L o u is v ille ,

a s tra te g ic

in

touch

a n t of

tfemphis,

B ir m in g ­

ad van tage as a c l e a r i n g

houss betw een the s e c t i o n s .
The S e c r e t a r y
second c h o ic e ;
Mr. B u rc h :
o f ue f e e l

in t h is
I n the

the

pu rpose

Ilr. B u r c h :



te rrito ry

te rrito ry

t h a t o u r own c i t y

The S e c r e t a r y
fo r

c f th e T r a s u r y :

tihat t.ould be
as

as

Tes,

o u tlin e d ?

o u tlin e d

I

t h in k a s a l l

is —

o f the Treasury:
o f the

N a s h v ille 's

I am e x c l u d i n g

N a s h v ille

d isc u ssio n .

I understand.

I w o u l d say

L o u isv ille ,

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cut

I h a rily

fe e l

we 4o n o t b e l i e v e
s u ffic is n tly
«o u ld

*ith

re a e c n

Burob

ycu c o u ld M y

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second c h o i c e ,

the t e r i t o r y l y i n g n o r t h

f a r n o rth

«lth

I ;lo n o t t h in k ycu c o u ld c a l l
o f the t r e a s u r y :

the s x t s n s i o n o f t h i e
Mr. B urch :

I

d is tric t

stated

t h e re

thou gh t i t

The S e c r e t a r y

the

re ae o n

of L c u ls v ills

L o u ie v ills ,
it

and f o r

s e c c n i ch o ic

V hat i e

and

that

.

y o u r v ie w a b o u t

f u r t h e r south?

i n the p a p e r t f* ic h

1 l e f t home and b e l o r e

m orn ing t h a t I

fo r

to sa k e i t a g o o * s t r o n g d i e t r i o t

good g r a c e c o o p e r a t e

The S e c r e t a r y

b efo re

L.

I h e a r d the

eh c u l l go a t

o f the T r e a e u r y :

I

I

drew up

d iso u ssio n

ls a a t

th le

t o Montgom ery.

*aa s p e a k in g ab o u t g o in g

f u r t h e r scutfc than Montgomery.
Mr, B urch:

1 t h in k

it

w o uld be h a r d l y

f u r t h e r ec u th moves n a t u r a l l y
a n d my o p i n i o n a b c u t t h a t
e h c u ld b s

in ths B t.

proper.

t o M o b ile and www O r l e a n s ,

te rrito ry

le

t h a t Hew O r l e a n s

L o u is t e r r i t o r y an d h s n c s

i n Alabam a so u th o f Montgomery w o uld n a t u r a l l y
Ms* O r l f a n s - 9 t « L c u l s
Ths S e c r e t a r y
s p lit
nect
B t.

L o u ie ?




th s

tsrrito ry

bs i n

th s

re g io n a l t e r r it o r y .

o f the Treasury:

w c u ld work w e l l ,
i t up » l t h

The t r a d e

Do you t h i n k

to a tta c h a p a rt

th a t k in d o f a

o f A labam a an d con­

Hew O r le a n s an d then c o n n e c t t h a t up w i t h

1 . t* Burch

Mr* B urch:
e p e c la l
kotos

*> e ll,

s ir,

I

4511

do n o t t h in k t h e ^ a w c u ld be

o b je c t io n to t h a t .

sou thw ard nnd the l i c e

Tho t e r r i t o r y

s o u th

haa t o be

my

o f Montgomery

seeew h ere,

• h e r e th e y d i v i d e *
the S e c re t ry c f A g r i c u l t u r e :

Ycu t*re

suit j e s t i n

n o rth .m d eouth d i s t r i c t w e s t c f th e M i s s i s s i p p i

g

another

P ite r,

p ra c tic a lly ?
M r. B urch:

Y «j *

The S e c r e t a r y
F lo rid a

o f A p ic u ltu re :

Whafc mould ycu dc w it h

and G e o r g ia ?

Mr* B urch:

I

wculd p l a c e F l o r i d a *nd s c a t

o f G e e rg ia in

t h e A t l a n t i c C o a s t d i v i s i o n w i t h W a s h in g to n o r B a l t i m o r e
a t t h e h ead *
The S e c r e t
th o u gh t

ry c f A g r i c u l t u r e :

Fhat

ie

the c o n t r o l l i n g

i n y r u r mind i n a r r a n g i t i g t h e e d i s t r i c t s

north

m d eouth?
Ifr.

B u rc h :

T hat th e y s h o u ld be b a l a n c e d ;

s h o u ld be a m a n u fa c t u rin g
tarred,
o ld

a d ia trio t

c o n t e r e suoh

and c i t i e s

a n i ron ey d i s t r i c t ,

who^-e t h e r e

as B a l t i m o r e ,

is

a re s e rv rir

C in o in n t i

as

nd l e n d e r s

it

th ere
s ig h t

be

c f money,

j&d 8 t .

o f t h a t d e s c r i p t i o n w hich have f o r

c f tim e been d e p o s i t o r s o f money



th *.t i s ,

L o u ie

a le n g p e rio d
o f soaey;

F• i.

Burch

4 5 1 2

be
th e y w c u ld / th e

c e n t e r o f the r e g i o n o f the S o u t h e r n

d is tric ts

ly in g

south o f t h e » ,

d ie t n o t e

vhen they n eeded noney w o u ld have & p l a c e

eo t h a t t h e v a r i o u s

Southern
where

t h e y o o u ld ^ et th e r c n e y *
The S e c r e t a r y
fa in

o f A g ric u ltu re s

to th e l o n e r South from h a v in g S t a t e s l i k e

I n d i a n a oonneoted w it h thee?
Mr.




Ycu h ave f i g u r e d

Burch:

yes

out • © » •

O hio

md

R.

I.

Can yr;u f i g u r e

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e :

B urch:

R e gio n al

Tes,

a ir,

I

th in k i t

w c u ld be a g a i n

t o th e

Bank i n ec Bruch ae t h e r e w c u ld b e a c o n s i d e r a b l e

u s e o f money a t a t i e s when p c s e l b l y
d e p o e lte

o u t any

from t h a t c o n n e c t io n ?

g a i n tc Ohio and I n d i a n a

M r.

4513

Burch

o f woney i n t h o s e c i t i e s

The S e c r e t x r y c f A g r i c u l t u r e :

the«*e w c u ld be l ^ r g e

i n those s t a t e e .
One end e f th e d i s t r i c t ,

i n 'O t h e r v c r d e , w cu ld have th e s u p p ly and t h e

o t h e r th e

d m and?
M r.

B u rc h :

Tea,

s ir*

The S e c r e t a r y c f A g r i c u l t u r e :
le

Which i n y c u r judgm ent

n e c e s s a r y t c g i v e a w e l l b a la n c e d d l e t r l c t ?
M r.

B urch :

necessary.
t n e w s e lv e s

Tee,

and a s u c c e s s f u l

The h o l d e r s

o f stock

b a n k , w hich

i n the b u l k ,

the

*fceh t c s e e th it s t o c k p ay d i v i d e n d s

©th rr i n v e s t v e n t ,

I

a lso
b *nks

lik e

my

take i t .

STATEMENT OF JAME8 A.
The S e c r e t a r y

ie

c f the T r e a s u r y :

S tate

GRFFH.
ycur n * a e ,

re sid e n c e

and o c c u p a t io n *
M r. G r e e n :
*

rch i t ,




J a »e e

A. Greeny

C in c in n a ti*

w ith Matthew Adtiy & C o e p a n y ,

I

aa a p i g

C in c in n a ti

is

iro n
the

4514

H* L • dur

c l e a r i n g house f c r a Tery l a r g e p a r t
■ ade in t h e S t it e o f O h io ,
iro n

which l a » a 1 e

o f th e

i r o n w hich l a

and f o r p r a c t i c a l l y

a ll

o f the

I n the eouth and fchlch l e

not

oonaused

lo c a lly .
The 8 e o r e t a r y

o f th e T r e a e u r y :

A re ycu s p e a k i n g

e f the A la -

ba»a d is tric t?
U r. G reen:

I

as s p e a k in g o f t h e A l a b a a a d i s t r i c t

th e Ten nessee and Kentuoky d i s t r i c t s .
o u t o f e v e r y t e n ton e o f i r o n s a l e
a r e h a n d le d th ro u g h C i n c i n n a t i ,

in

C in c in n a ti.

T h ers

• h e r e th e coke l e

are g re a t

C in c in n a ti le

e x te n e lse p ig
th le

iro n .

cen tal

The Sec r o t

but i t

i n t h e s o u th
lik e

a llh a n d le d

goes

o f course,

W is e C o u n ty ,

through

th le

C lo ­

1 .rg e and
coke

Is v a in ly

and

In the

i l l o t e r the c o u n try .

r y o f the T r e a s u r y :

A re y cu f a w l l l a r w i t h

c o n o d ltle s

^rca C i n c i n n a t i .

Yes.

The S e c r e t a r y



a r e h a n d le d h e r e i n

i r o n h c u se e which d l e t r i h u t e

the d i s t r i b u t i o n o f g e n e ra l

Mr • O rrtB S

o u t o f ewtsry t e n

coke f i e l d s

le

o f T en nesee

th e hoae c f e e v e r a l t e r y

The d i e t r i b u t i r n ,

w est,

the S t a t e

a sserch^nt p r o p o e l t i c n ,

and th e coke n o t used l o c a l l y
c i nr, % ti.

I p re& u a d e th i t n i n e

and n in e

o f A la b a s a I r e n not used i n A la b a s a ,

and o f

o f the T r e a s u r y :

What l i n e s

p a rtic u la rly

J.

o u te id e

o f jlro n ,

V r . G reen;

A* Greer.

what g e n e r a l

4515

c c a e io d lt le e ?

I have t h e g e n e r a l

cen In C ln o in a a t l e r u ld

k now led ge t h a t

ha^ e who had e p e n t a l l

any b u a in e e e
h ie

life

h ere*
The S e c r e t a r y
e p h e re o f t r a d e
com odi tie a ,
ite e lf?
le

o f th e T r e a e u r y :
In flu e n c e

d o s i n *nt ae th e t r a d e

K en tu c k y,
G e o rg ia ,

I

it

the t e r r i t o r y

as tc
In

c h ie f

o f gen eral

the t e r r i t o r y

*h io h C in c in n a ti

center*

t h in k C i n c i n n a t i

and a v e r y l a r g a p a r t
a ll

C i n c i n n a t i 1*

f o r th e d i e t r i b u t i c n

how w o uld ycu d e e o r i b e

I s e a n by t h a t

H r, G r e e n :

What l e

o f S o u th e rn O h i o ,

in flu e n c e

ie

in Tenneeeee,

o f n o r t h e r n A la b a m a and
In d ia n a ,

and a l a r g e

p irt

c f e o u lh e ra I l l i n o i e *
The S e c r e t a r y
Hr* G r e e n :

o f A g ric u ltu re :

The n o r t h e r n p r t

Tou eee we r e a c h i n d i r e c t l y
a b e o lu te ly

s tra ig h t

atrcng

as

The n o r t h e r n p i r t ?
ae w e l l

on th e —

ae t h e s o u t h e r n *

our r a i l r o a d s

ru n

and we do

as

bu ein e ee *

The S e c r e t a r y o f th e T r e a e u r y :
e s p e c ia lly

o f I n d ia n a ?

i n t o n o r t h e r n W#et V i r g i n i a ,

i a a e n *e aaount o f d i r e c t




A ll

S o u th e rn I n d i n a and a l l o f Weet V i r g i n i a *

The S e c r e t a r y
V r* G reen:

o f the T r e a a u r y :

I n w hat l i n e

a d is trib u tin g

center?

if

C in c in n a ti

J.

M r. G re e n :

There i a

d is trib u tio n

c f ccke

The S e c r e t a r y
It

le

4516

A • G re e n

nc c i t y

th «t

cercparee w it h

o f the T r e a e u r y :

Tee,

lu s h e r a^rket*

lo *

comp i r actively

C i n c ln n t l

ia

sc.

ae

tc

ill i t
It

e t h e r th in g s?
n o t?

le

d istin g u ish e d

a

treiren d cu a

fc r

its

n u a b e r o f m iner m a n u f a c t u r o r s , a s ycu «>re a w a r e ;
p rin tin g

in k ,

in k s p a r t i c u l

p a in ts ,
rly ,

aid a l l

that s o r t

fa m ilia r

but I

p rin tin g

How th e j o b b i n g

lin e e ?

do n e t

want t o

But

I

an

ru s h i n

speak.

in y cu r l i n e

it

d o m in ate#

s e c t io n ?

Mr. G r e e n :

A b so lu te ly .

Ths S e c r e t a r y
erente

ln te re a te


C ir 'Tii


very

in these

1 r g e 'y .

here*

o f th e T r e a s u r y :

f c r these d i f f e r e n t

M r. C r e e n :

very

o f th in g ,

a r e o t h e r s su c h wore com petent t c

The S e c r e t >ry o f A g r i c u l t u r e :
th at

V im is h e a ,

Tcu itta t aek we a b c u t my s p e c i v l t i e s .

in a g e n e ra l w *y,

w h sre t h e r e

l*rg e

ind f u r n i t u r e m a n u fa c t u r e .

The S e c r e t r y o f t h e T r e a s u r y :
Mr. G re e n :

i n th e

uad i r o n .

a 1 >rge baoon and p e rk m r k e t ,

Mr. G re e n :

it

Tcu a r e l a r g e l y

concern s,

s a le s

a r c y cu not?

la rg e ly *

C in cinnati

ceneerne,

h o w e v e r,

his

imnenae

and hae

fin a n c 'd

them

A g r e a t w*ny o f them arm owned and c o n t r o l l e d

T h e re a r e none t h a t C i n c i n n a t i

is

net

in te re s te d

in *

the
r. t3 f inajaced

the Birmingham d i s t r i c t

frc m / b e g ln n in £ .

4517

J . A. Green

The S e c r e t

ry o f th e T r e a e u r y :

W r. Howe:

u r.

The S e c r e t a r y

MoGUl
o f th e

le

That i e

a ll,

here fro c lfa rio n ,

Treaeury:

thank you*

In d .

Dc y c u c a r e t o

s a y any­

t h i n g , Mr. M c G ill?
Mr. M o G i l l :

I b e lie v e n ot.

We have o t t e r e d

t h e gro u n d

th ro u g h o ur s e c r e t a r y .

FURTHF* STATFMTHT OF W. S .

The S e c r e t a r y

c f T reaeury:

ask ycu one o r two s o r e

M r. R o * e ,

q u e a tic n e ,

if

ROTE.

we s h o u ld l i k e

y c u want t o

to

resuae

the sta n d .
The S e c r e t a r y

ju st
Jt w a s / t o ask y cu

o f A g ric u ltu re :

t o Bake

a s p e c ia l p o in t

o f p r e s e n t i n g t o us b etw een now and th e

firs t

if

o f March,

us as f u l l y

and sc f a r

saps

'T a k e C i n c i n n a t i

aa you c a n ,

do sen

le a d in g

d iffe re n t

c o w n u n itie e •

it

but

center,

e ith e r

in o th e r ways,

the v o lu t e

ha^» to

c o n c e r n s and g e t

f o r the vclutte i n c o m b in a t io n ,



as a d i s t r i b u t i n g

in d ic a tin g

sho w in g

trade are a in gen eral

she * a n u f a o t u r e s c r d i s t r i b u t e s

p e r c e n t a g e s * P e rh a p s y cu w i l l
a

or oth er e x h ib it s

as ycu can C i n c i n n a t i 9*

o c M c d ltie s .
o f th in g s

p o s s ib le ,

cf it

and

t a k e h a l f a d c x en o r

f o r u « . We a r e n o t
the p e ro e n ta g e e

aakU*

shown i n

J.

Ur.

R© e :

I

A. G r*en

4516

aa very nuch o b lig e d

fo r tho e u g £ € * t i c n .

I

Aisu®ed t h is r e m i n g

th *t w ith what we had i n the » a p * which
th a r
• c u jd go in w ith the b r i e f it would be u n d e r * t o e d /f r o *
O h i o 9* p o s i t i o n , w ith
p c a itio n it h i *
is

lirg e,

it*

encr&cus » a r u f a c t u r e « ,

in p ro p o rtio n to other s t a t e s ,

very larg e,

i*

suoh *

p a r t lc u l® r ly

i i v e r e i t y a* there

i n O h io ,

i t * p erc en tag e

th at i t would be throughly un d erstood

w ith o ut saying very *such about in t h e b r i e f *
th ere

uad t h *

1* i n

Sow whare

th e«e s t a t e * ,

and

because Ohio does 53 p e r oent c f t h *

m a n u fa c t u r i n g in th e se

fiv e * t a t e s ,

it

w ould

ju s t be

assused

t r t the ie g o e ie would r c everywhere#
The S e cre ta ry

o f the T re a a u ry :

le

a r*a p e a k ln g

C i c i n n a t i f s dcpiinance ae a trade c e n t e r ,
ion o f c o n o d l t l e *
Hr# Ho-e:

Tee,

fo r

the d i s t r i b u t ­

throughout the d i s t r i c t y cu have K * n t i c n * d
I

air coring tc t h a t .

I

do not th in k

is any doubt in the w crld th at we h an d le d a l l y
here* ecvewheree between a K i l l ! on
d o ll

r*

'tu re

there

i n one hank

m d a n i l l i e n and a rij.|f

o f country ch eck s in a day that * r e

M a in tc C a l i f o r n i a .
the

of*

And th a t 1 * the ^

stuttered

fro®

r e s u lt n o t only o f

but the jo b b in g and d i s t r i b u t i n g .

V * kf.ow

how Kany we handle o f thew because they eim ply a c a n the
g iv in g o f i w e d i a t e



c r e d it

and the t l e i n g up o f th at

T.

al

»n *y

S* Row#

4519

u n t i l th ey u r e li<*i I d a t a d , and i t

ie

a fei^ e l e w a a t .

The ^ e c r e t & r y c f A g r i c u l t u r e 2 O f c e u r e e , yeti n e e d n e t
•© f a r a f i e l d ae t h a t ,
t,

b u t t a k l n f the a i a t r i e t you h i r e

end t a k i n g th e d i s t r i c t

y cu c o u ld

eto ii.jgh t e e u t h t o the Q u U

g iv e ua i n f o r a a t l c a ,

it

m ig h t h e l p u a

*e
la id
if

1a # e r y etany

Vc ye than <n e .
Mr. Kowes We w o u ld be v a r y
of

jgiad t e do i t *

and a r c

*la d

the chenecu
T e

S ecretary

ef

the

T r e a s u r y : Tcu u n d e r s t a n d w h at we

H itt
Mr, Rowe: I

t h in k

T ra S e c r e t a r y c f

I

do new.*

the T re a a tiry * Taka

the

r a n u f a ? t u r l n g l i r . e e and ehew ua w h ere the
u tio n e f

that product l e

th r o u g h t h l e

la rg e

j e b b i n g and

rin e ip a l d is trib ­

trades d l e t r l c t

i n w h ic h

ycu c l a l * ycu a r e d c a a lia n t*
Hr* Rowe 2

I

b e l i e v e we hawe t^e l a r e e e t

tan nery

In the

country—
Thei S e c r e t - r y
ua hawe

f

th

T r a e u r y * Tcu b e l i e v e

bu t

et

the f i * " u r 4 * «

Mr. Rev ex X b e l i e v e

It

aa a f r e t ,

The S e c r e t a r y o f A g r i c u l t u r e *
haws i n aiind*



th at,

In St.

L c u le

an a can prove

it.

L e t tsm i l l u a t r a t e

tne h a r d w a r e e o n p e n le e

w hat we
jgave u e

ee

4520

W . F • How*

w i t h o u t any t r o u b l e

tha p e r c e n t a g e

tha s t a t s s , s s p a c i a l l y
tta>

w i t h i n the

ware r e p r e s e n t i n g .

la rg e

o f t h e i r b u sin e ss
r*ach

m ight t u r n o u t -

b u a i n e * * i n some t e r r i t o r y
o o n a id *ra b le
g i**

tro u b la

a tte n tio n to

it

of cou r**,

t h a t t h a y w o u ld do a wary l a r g e
t h a t w o u ld g i v e ua v a r y

tha o c u r * *

of trad*,

the v e r y

w ould h a v * a v e r y

ju s t

w ill

fin d

to g i v e and i t

v*ry

c o n e id e ra b ly .

Mr. Row*:

very d i f f i c u l t

Ve w ould b * v e r y

The S e c r e t a r y

ot

t a n n e r y you epok*
h o * much o f the

g la d

the * r * a * u r y :
o f.

8 u p p o *s

an d th a n s a c s tne p e r c e n t a g e

and

on y o u r

1 do n o t t h in k ycu
w o u ld h e l p u *

in d e e d o f th e c h a n c e .
F o r i n » t a n c e , tak e t h *

th a y f i l e

t o t a l product in

o f an

p r o b le m ;

i i r e o t b e a rin g

re c o g n iz e d .

c o a p c lls d to

that s o rt

d iffic u lt

p r o p o s a l t o hav* C i n c i n n a t i
it

Wow i f

t o show ua t h e i r

i n p l a c i n g , and a * w* a r a

• x h i b i t may h e l p ua a o l v e

that
c f th*

e a ta b lis h m e n te .

h a l f a d o s t n o r a dozen o f t h o * * w a r *
it

c ity

Tha *asie waa don* b y eose

ahoa h o u * * * and o t h a r l a r g e

b u sin e s s,

o f the

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